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in 1977 three scientists went into the
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jungles of Flores Indonesia to study
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birds only one of them came out dr.
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Timothy Dara the authorities eventually
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found one of the missing members of
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dara'a team his corpse was butchered
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almost beyond recognition
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investigators never found any remains of
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the other victim
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Tim Dara was charged with double
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homicide and suspected of cannibalism
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Dara maintained his innocence throughout
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the trial he claimed something else was
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the culprit
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you tried to convince the court that
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creatures from the jungle were
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responsible that our local myth had
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murdered his friends no one believed him
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Darren but he claimed to have seen what
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he claimed killed his friends in 40 said
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he saw was impossible
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but I believe Timothy dalla was telling
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the truth
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Tim was the first in the family to go to
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college and he became a PhD a scientist
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his most wonderful older brother only
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first heard about the crimes that he'd
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been charged with but we couldn't
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believe he was capable of it I would
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describe the Tim Darrow case as the
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Indonesian equivalent of your OJ Simpson
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trial into a sir it was that big at the
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time Darrow an American ornithologist
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was convicted of killing a fellow
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scientist Gary Ward and their Indonesian
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field guide Rajat saputra or Reggie as
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he was known but he didn't just kill
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them he cannibalized them that's why we
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gave him the name in the papers the
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American cannibal the body of dr. Ward
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was never recovered but investigators
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did manage to locate the body of Raja
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saputra
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there were severe bone fractures
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there were several cut marks to the
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bones the skull had been smashed open
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his body had been harvested and the fact
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that he had done this to an Indonesian
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citizen caused tremendous public outrage
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the first thing I thought when I was
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informed about Timothy Darrow
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I thought crowds might storm the embassy
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it's not a stretch to say that we were
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worried about how the Tim Darrow case
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would affect our standing throughout the
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entire region I mean you have to
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remember he was convicted of killing
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them with a rock it was savage what he
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did to them
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the Indonesians elected not to execute
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him which was was really more than we
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could ask given that he never recanted a
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story of what had happened the Darrow
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came out of the jungle covered in blood
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telling a ghost story that was a myth
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his whole alibi was a myth he convinced
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no one of anything except that he was a
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very sick very deranged man
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by the time I started working in Flores
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nearly 25 years after he'd been
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convicted he was regarded as Colonel
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Kurtz like figure Tim Darrow the crazy
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American ornithologist who entered the
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jungle and killed his friends and then
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claimed that little wild men in the
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trees were to blame I was on Flores as
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part of a research team from Wollongong
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we were looking for evidence of early
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human migratory routes to Australia when
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we unearthed something completely
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unexpected
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we found an unknown species of human a
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species of little wild men hello
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everybody welcome to the Royal
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Institution thanks for coming along to
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hear news of this remarkable discovery
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here we have a creature that was
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substantially different from modern
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humans a totally new species of our
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genis living on the planet at the same
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time as us Homo floresiensis was
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probably the most important find in
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anthropology maybe ever it made people
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really think very very hard about how
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human evolution works people have always
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thought about it as a line walking from
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gorillas and apes walking more and more
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erect until they turn into a modern
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human
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but these creatures were bound to meet
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at all
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about the height of a kindergarten child
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the skull was very very small and the
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feet were really big it was really quite
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unlike anything that anyone's ever seen
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their scientific name is Homo
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floresiensis which literally means
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Flores man but we nicknamed them hobbits
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after their characters from the talking
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books for obvious reasons
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now these hobbits weren't like
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pipe-smoking waistcoat wearing Bilbo
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Baggins living in his genteel hobbit
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hole entertained visiting wizards they
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were quite savage because they had to be
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living in a very prehistoric lost world
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full of predators and full of dangers
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there were giant lizards like Komodo
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dragons but two or three times the size
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they hunted giant rats the size of
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terriers
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and they would have also hunted the tiny
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elephants who staggered on that lived on
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the island these creatures were tough
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they had to be they were living in a
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very tough world we know they hunted big
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gang
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we found staggered on bones alongside
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the hobbit remains we also unearthed
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their stone weapons they used to hunt
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them with cutting blades and spear tips
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made from Flint
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we also found evidence of fire pits in
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the cave so they used tools in the used
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fire they were smart Homo floresiensis
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lived until about 20,000 years ago which
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in the scheme of things is like a blink
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of an eye here we have this lost vestige
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of an ancient prehistoric world walking
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on the earth alongside us we knew
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immediately that the hobbit remains
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would change our understanding of human
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history forever
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all the Australian scientists were
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elated but some of the Indonesians
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reacted quite differently they were
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quieted tentative a few of them even
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visibly upset that was the first time I
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heard of EBU gaga
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[Applause]
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the double go-go myth or legend is a
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kind of bogeyman told by the nage people
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of central flurries they are described
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as a frightening figure ugly hairy very
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strong but small physically small this
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story of the iboga appear to be just a
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you know part of folklore until the
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discovery of Homo floresiensis in
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October 2004 in Flores there are legends
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that speak in great detail about the
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existence and behavior of a creature
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they called EBU gogo that were about a
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metre tall and interacted with the
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modern Islanders until they found this
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creature they would have dismissed them
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as just tales of leprechauns but no
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longer the find itself was quite
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remarkable physically there does seem to
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be agreement between Homo floresiensis
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and the EBU gogo both short erect
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bipedal both existed on Flores Island so
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we have a kind of a a possible match
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was it possible that their myth was real
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that EBU gogo was the Hobby suite fan
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that's what I began exploring
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the nagas descriptions were colorful but
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consistent they all climbed that Eva
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Geiger was small recovered in hey they
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said that see them up in the trees but
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also in the ground walking in the ground
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on two legs that they were by people and
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that they were afraid of them
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Wow thousand dollars how about the moon
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fall upon us all
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pow-pow demo hi Ana to Lima hi get outta
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here
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Arthur
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the Nagas vivid descriptions of the
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creatures had been written off his
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folklore their equivalent of the bogan
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edge even the Naga claimed they hadn't
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seen them for over a hundred years but
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someone else had claimed to see nee Baga
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go more recently than that an American
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scientist who had stumbled into their
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village back in 1977 you were present a
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day to ten Dara came out of the jungle
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into your age
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poor condition with you only
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zoomy knew Lamar to decide what had
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happened to him in the jungle
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okay
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and this there's the stone blade that
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was found inside missus of Patras corpse
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and the authorities tied him to the
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crime when he found this identical blade
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in his backpack these two blades were
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the key evidence used to prosecute Tim
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for both murders even though we don't
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really know what happened to Gary Ward
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his body was never located now here's
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what it gets really interesting this is
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a photograph of the stone blades we
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excavated with the hobbit remains in
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2003 they're the weapons that the
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hobbits used to hunt with and we
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discovered these more than 25 years
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after the darrell trial and as you can
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see they're identical to the alleged
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murder weapon now it was impossible that
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Tim Darrow could have known this detail
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that they existed nobody knew about
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these blades until we found them even an
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argument of their EBU gogo there was no
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descriptions that they used tools or
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weapons none at all so either he was a
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clairvoyant psychopath when he fashioned
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his alibi back in 1977 all there was
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something more to his story that's when
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I knew I needed to talk to Timothy
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Darrow I wanted to find out where he got
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that blade
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he was an odd request this Australian
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scientist wanted to get into karabük and
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prism to interview an American citizen
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who had been convicted of a double
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homicide
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now the Indonesian government had to
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deal with the paperwork on this they had
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to approve it which they did finally in
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2006 I don't think they were in any rush
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I mean Timothy Darrow was serving two
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life sentences he wasn't going anywhere
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they sent Darrow to prison in the
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caribou card
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that's not a place they send you for
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rehabilitation that's a place they send
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you to die
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I asked to record that first meeting and
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they allowed it but they never allowed
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me to film Tim again he told me what he
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saw okay what do you think the word we
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thought it was some kind of 8 and there
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orangutangs in Indonesia but not on
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Flores and that's not what this was it
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was smaller darker covered in dark hair
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except around the face and the eyes
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when we saw it up close you could see it
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was smart you could just tell
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and it wasn't afraid who's coming for us
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I knew what they said about him he's a
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psychopath delusional are likely
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schizophrenic but I have to admit I
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wasn't prepared for how convincing I'd
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find him
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and it was in that first meeting that
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Tim told me he'd had a camera on the
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expedition he claimed he filmed them not
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just saw them but filmed them ku Tim
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Dara have captured evidence actual proof
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that the hobbits have managed to survive
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until 1977 and if they were out there
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then could they still be out there today
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is there another species of humans still
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out there hiding in one of the most
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inaccessible places on earth I'm needed
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to find out
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after interviewing Tim Darrow I was
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convinced that there were elements of
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truth to his story so in 2012 with some
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documentary funding I led a seven man
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expedition deep into the interior or
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Flores we're now approaching the
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outermost perimeter of where Tim Darrow
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and his colleagues conducted their field
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study back in 1977 the area but Tim says
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he encountered them where he said he saw
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the creatures
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our objective was simply to retrace
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their our footsteps and look for
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evidence of existing Homo floresiensis
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population
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but why undertake the expedition when
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many considered it a fool's errand
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because mammals considered extinct are
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still found the solar for instance a
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bovine species thought to have been
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hunted to extinction long ago because of
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its unique horns a camera trap caught
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footage of one in the wild just last
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year the Cupra is another presumed
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extinct for nearly a thousand years it
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was discovered alive
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deep within the Cambodian jungle those
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species found a way to persist in
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uncharted environments why couldn't this
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be the case with the hobbits even today
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when you'd think that scientists would
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have looked behind every bush and shaken
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every tree on the planet large animals
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still coming to the light that haven't
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been discovered before so it's not
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beyond the realms of possibility that
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seem human type creatures live
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undiscovered in some jungle elsewhere if
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they were out there then I had to find
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them
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and one man held the que pide spoken
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with dr. Hamburg on several occasions
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about my reporting of the Darrow story
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he wanted to know everything that I
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remembered they even referred him to a
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couple of my old contacts when he
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requested additional information they
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were on an eight-week research trip into
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the remote interior of the island to
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study birds they were all ethology now
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that's quite a genteel profession not
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the kind of background that you would
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expect from a murderer
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we were studying the impact of
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forestation was beginning to happen the
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forest Eagles population dairy and I
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were doing postdoc research on the
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effects
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it was difficult to get to our study
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side who's out there
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a [ __ ]
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bridges are filled aid but they became a
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colleague and front
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our grant was to follow Eagles but we
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were also looking for another bird bird
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that hadn't been seen for almost a
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century
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before his corpse ow
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- the thinking was that it got extinct
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Perez swore he'd seen one on previous
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track so we were hoping to find it again
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record is calling on Agra maybe even
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filmed it
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so we're setting out to find a lost
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species
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ironic right Tim was a birdwatcher for
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as long as I can remember I guess it was
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an unusual hobby for a kid growing up in
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Bloomington but he loved them
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he always had birds in the house he kept
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them as pets
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he built birdhouses and tended to
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nestlings that had fallen out of trees
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that sort of thing even took care of a
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hawk that he found in a field ones she
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had birdshot in her wing but he got to
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fly again
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when we first heard about the crimes
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that he'd been charged with of course we
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couldn't believe it but when the facts
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came out that Tim had really done these
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terrible terrible things
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it was hard after we moved my father
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said we couldn't talk about him anymore
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but I knew something must have happened
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to him something must have snapped
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when I spotted it first
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the market
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and you don't see perfectly symmetrical
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things in the jungle
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what is it I briefly wondered if people
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had made it
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we were worried about headhunters
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and they've been headhunters in that
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jungle only a generation before but the
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height seemed wrong was fairly low to
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the ground we you make a quick sketch of
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what the maca maca pop it up for cameras
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no such markings ever existed 20 police
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officers searched a three-mile perimeter
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and found nothing and even if they had
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found something what is to say dr.
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Darrow did not make them himself
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it was the markings on the body of mr.
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saputra that interested us and these we
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are quite certain were made by dr.
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Darrell no one believed his story then
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and no one should today
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navigating the map timid given as is
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proven to be a bit more difficult than
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I'd imagined there we have a 20-mile
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hike into the interior and the landscape
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is very different to what it was back in
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1977 many of the landmarks Tim spoke of
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are no longer here though we're gonna
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keep pressing on the trial locate the
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sites where Tim claims he and his team
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account at the creatures and that's what
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we need to find we're assessing the
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health of the Rufus belly
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Eagles in the Flores Hawk Eagles and
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both were unusual and that other birds
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are a big part of their diet
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so that's what we were catching in the
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nets some of the birds that they preyed
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on mist nets are basically nylon net
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strung up between trees it's a
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non-lethal way to catch birds you play
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lure calls on the loop recording and it
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alerts and other birds
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we didn't think much of it at the time
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but we were finding some of the nets
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pulled down
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this is a river the Tim reference the
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close to the side where they have their
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initial encounter with a creature it's
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taken is a lot longer than we expected
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to get this Jeep enter the jungle were
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finally here
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you were about to tell him about first
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on the soy but we got up and we did our
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normal routine and we were doing our end
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of the day rounds to see if anything it
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turned up in the Nets that's when we
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heard it yeah let's find it
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first thing I did I got my camera on my
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back and I started running towards the
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sound
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we got to where we'd setting that up to
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that morning and it was down then what
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caught my attention
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I saw markings on the trees now they
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weren't there when we'd set the net up
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that morning Gary slaw first tell me you
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got that my face on this far away but I
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think so yeah Mitch we didn't see it at
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all
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he was an ape that was a goddamn ape and
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I remember thinking that this was too
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good to be true of course the camera was
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lost he said he lost it in the jungle
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before he get out and I confess that at
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that point I I thought that if he were
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delusional then this was very convenient
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and he could always maintain that there
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was something out there that would prove
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him right because that something would
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never be found
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tim was certain that his camera was gone
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but the audio recordings the recordings
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he said they captured of the creatures
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call those might have survived
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he said his narco recorder had to have
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been with the Indonesian authorities at
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some point it was in the same backpack
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as the Flint blade they presented as
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evidence in his trial so I began to
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investigate dr. Horne back told me what
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he was looking for and I said to him
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that I didn't specifically remember the
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items that were recovered at the time
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all the items that the Indonesians
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recovered in the jungle and were deemed
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immaterial to the case they returned
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them to us after the trial we just did a
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very cursory inspection and then boxed
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up their boxes and sent them back to his
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University in Illinois
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smart
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stereos markings okay let's get a trap
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up if you do come back to this song it
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might just catch you wanna hey so this
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is the area where Darryl filmed the
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creature and recorded is called you know
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just how dare would describe them and if
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these are territorial markings is every
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chance they might come back and if we do
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come back and that's how we're going to
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catch a winner on camera
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now if the infrared sensor inside these
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camera tracks picks up any kind of
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movement they start recording now our
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aim is to mount these cameras at every
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location where Tim encountered the
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creature like here Tim saw the creature
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in the ground Superman and cameras down
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here
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they also saw them up in the trees so
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remaining them up there as well right
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away we knew it was something different
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something new but it didn't look like an
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orangutan or a given but it moves like
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that break it is through the trees like
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them there are no Apes on Florida's so
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whatever it was we knew it was worth
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trying to find because we quite possibly
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just found a new species we start
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monitoring the Eagles we even stopped
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looking for the scalps out well we knew
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we were on to something bigger now we
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knew was attracted the mist nets for the
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birds so we played the recording of the
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lured calls of a few of the different
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local bird species on a loop
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we were hoping to get a better look at
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the Reg hadn't seen it at all and I
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wanted to get a better shot of it if I
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could we just sat in our midship blind
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and watched and waited we were gonna
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wait for as long as we have to I guess
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patience has its rewards
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[Music]
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we've been watching the trees but that's
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not what we should have been looking
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[Music]
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we saw it and it saw us it was looking
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right at us
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I remember it turned around right before
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it disappeared to turn back around to
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look at us one more time
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and then it disappeared back into the
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forest
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[Music]
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and then we heard it we tracked down the
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Nagra recorder it was just sitting in
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the a/v equipment room at the university
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gathering dust the recordings never
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catalogued because the people who made
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them never returned to Illinois to
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document their findings so nearly 35
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years after the fact this was you fine
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now listen to this
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[Music]
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[Applause]
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the calls captured on the Nara were
558
00:31:53,730 --> 00:31:55,440
shared with half a dozen of the world's
559
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,570
leading primatologists and they all
560
00:31:57,570 --> 00:32:00,630
agreed that it was primate but none of
561
00:32:00,630 --> 00:32:01,560
them knew what it was
562
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,980
so something unknown was out there at
563
00:32:04,980 --> 00:32:08,730
least as of 1977 and I thought we could
564
00:32:08,730 --> 00:32:11,760
use this call to see if it was still out
565
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,630
there today
566
00:32:15,310 --> 00:32:20,420
[Applause]
567
00:32:20,420 --> 00:32:21,990
thing this is it
568
00:32:21,990 --> 00:32:24,690
it was after finding the Niagara that I
569
00:32:24,690 --> 00:32:26,910
began to plan the expedition to find a
570
00:32:26,910 --> 00:32:29,850
creature Tim described and I thought we
571
00:32:29,850 --> 00:32:33,680
could use the calls to our advantage
572
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,600
for Manning one of these with a camera
573
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,520
strapped up in the canopy
574
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,040
these speakers will broadcast the call
575
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,410
that Tim recorded into the jungle over
576
00:32:43,410 --> 00:32:45,620
regular time intervals day and night
577
00:32:45,620 --> 00:32:55,620
Jack's go this is the bait the hope is
578
00:32:55,620 --> 00:32:57,660
that this will lure one of them right to
579
00:32:57,660 --> 00:33:07,830
us good again rajen know what it was
580
00:33:07,830 --> 00:33:09,960
either but I think he was already
581
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,170
thinking about the myth about every go
582
00:33:13,170 --> 00:33:17,600
go you know and the stories behind it
583
00:33:17,940 --> 00:33:22,750
he was spooked I asked him if he was
584
00:33:22,750 --> 00:33:25,000
okay and he said he was troubled that it
585
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,409
was looking at is that it looked like an
586
00:33:26,409 --> 00:33:31,659
animal afraid you told him that it was
587
00:33:31,659 --> 00:33:34,900
probably curious a we were as new to it
588
00:33:34,900 --> 00:33:37,030
as it was to us I told him that he
589
00:33:37,030 --> 00:33:39,790
should be excited
590
00:33:39,790 --> 00:33:42,610
but we found a new species and I told
591
00:33:42,610 --> 00:33:47,980
him that we were gonna be famous he
592
00:33:47,980 --> 00:33:50,340
smiled
593
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,260
for found one of their old observation
594
00:34:03,260 --> 00:34:06,270
platforms this is one of the platforms
595
00:34:06,270 --> 00:34:07,380
that turned arrow in his colleagues
596
00:34:07,380 --> 00:34:09,929
build over two decades ago that they use
597
00:34:09,929 --> 00:34:13,290
to observe Eagles up in the canopy we're
598
00:34:13,290 --> 00:34:16,490
going to go up for a closer look
599
00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:55,669
so please get up here
600
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:17,819
this is a leg bone appears to be from a
601
00:35:17,819 --> 00:35:25,410
pig a forest pig so clearly this is not
602
00:35:25,410 --> 00:35:29,240
a a boreal animal
603
00:35:29,970 --> 00:35:42,170
so when this could be an eagle kill or
604
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:49,840
with something else to get up there and
605
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:55,240
when was the next time you saw it we
606
00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:57,330
didn't see it
607
00:35:57,330 --> 00:36:03,160
we heard it the call started probably a
608
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,010
couple hours after we fought so he was
609
00:36:06,010 --> 00:36:11,230
missing we made our way in the direction
610
00:36:11,230 --> 00:36:14,410
of the calls it was a moon out but
611
00:36:14,410 --> 00:36:15,880
nowhere near enough light from a camera
612
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,900
but we brought the Nagre
613
00:36:19,810 --> 00:36:23,110
[Applause]
614
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:41,610
[Applause]
615
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,760
[Music]
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00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:57,249
[Applause]
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00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:03,239
[Music]
618
00:37:08,030 --> 00:37:11,980
why are they gone why
619
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:31,129
[Music]
620
00:37:31,830 --> 00:37:34,240
chimpanzees kill with brute force they
621
00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:37,300
rip their prey apart that's not what we
622
00:37:37,300 --> 00:37:39,510
found
623
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:45,980
[Laughter]
624
00:37:47,110 --> 00:37:50,860
[Music]
625
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,920
this is where Tim saw the creature in
626
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,870
the canopy for the first time and this
627
00:38:06,870 --> 00:38:10,080
is where we just left with Tim filmed it
628
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:15,630
in the blind and this is evil over the
629
00:38:15,630 --> 00:38:20,150
volcano the legend among the Nagi is
630
00:38:20,150 --> 00:38:23,640
that the the creatures lived in the
631
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,470
caves and the northern slopes harvey
632
00:38:25,470 --> 00:38:28,350
biloba we are now heading towards an RGB
633
00:38:28,350 --> 00:38:31,380
leech called aura which sits in e below
634
00:38:31,380 --> 00:38:37,770
both shudder the people moved high up on
635
00:38:37,770 --> 00:38:40,800
the slopes of willow go they gradually
636
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,020
came into contact with Leo go go go who
637
00:38:43,020 --> 00:38:46,170
lived in in caves higher up the the
638
00:38:46,170 --> 00:38:49,830
volcano they soon discovered that to the
639
00:38:49,830 --> 00:38:52,410
obligor were taking crops were raiding
640
00:38:52,410 --> 00:38:55,110
their field and the problem apparently
641
00:38:55,110 --> 00:38:58,110
got worse there are stories would speak
642
00:38:58,110 --> 00:39:00,150
of abduction of children
643
00:39:00,150 --> 00:39:04,530
Nemo high on a jewel Lima high get Appa
644
00:39:04,530 --> 00:39:07,760
he thought there is a suggestion that
645
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:12,230
cannibalism was practiced
646
00:39:12,390 --> 00:39:14,960
bah
647
00:39:18,130 --> 00:39:20,040
[Music]
648
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:20,910
Oh
649
00:39:20,910 --> 00:39:24,080
[Music]
650
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,150
Joe get a shot of this
651
00:39:38,650 --> 00:39:42,220
are you what is this
652
00:39:43,369 --> 00:39:47,900
it is a warning buko go come to the
653
00:39:47,900 --> 00:39:50,559
village they will be burned
654
00:39:50,559 --> 00:39:53,779
buko go remember if the wood can be
655
00:39:53,779 --> 00:39:55,530
burned and so can they
656
00:39:55,530 --> 00:40:02,039
[Music]
657
00:40:04,180 --> 00:40:07,370
[Music]
658
00:40:09,730 --> 00:40:11,859
the first light we were getting ready to
659
00:40:11,859 --> 00:40:14,520
pack up that's one rich dog
660
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,789
[Music]
661
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:30,030
they'd come into our camp there were
662
00:40:30,030 --> 00:40:31,740
prints facing the opening I have been
663
00:40:31,740 --> 00:40:38,400
watching this they probably been
664
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,360
watching this whole time
665
00:40:43,250 --> 00:40:47,650
that's why Rachel said it it will go go
666
00:40:47,650 --> 00:40:50,610
[Applause]
667
00:40:50,610 --> 00:40:52,370
they're talking us
668
00:40:52,370 --> 00:40:55,489
[Applause]
669
00:40:57,260 --> 00:41:00,640
you wanted to get out of it
670
00:41:09,970 --> 00:41:13,410
[Music]
671
00:41:19,500 --> 00:41:22,630
[Music]
672
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,100
as I mentioned there's this notion that
673
00:41:43,100 --> 00:41:46,030
the abou go-go are a threat to children
674
00:41:46,030 --> 00:41:50,000
so a decision was taken to try and kill
675
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,869
him or Olaf
676
00:41:52,890 --> 00:41:55,890
as the story goes the or people set fire
677
00:41:55,890 --> 00:41:59,009
to the cave in which the bukuvu lived
678
00:41:59,009 --> 00:42:02,849
and that's how they met their end except
679
00:42:02,849 --> 00:42:05,339
according to some variants of the story
680
00:42:05,339 --> 00:42:08,459
there were a couple of the Google male
681
00:42:08,459 --> 00:42:12,239
and female that escaped the fire and
682
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:16,880
that their descendants still survived
683
00:42:19,650 --> 00:42:22,130
[Music]
684
00:42:22,130 --> 00:42:25,770
all right guys he's gonna flush lice and
685
00:42:25,770 --> 00:42:28,280
good and have a look
686
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:01,500
Joe
687
00:43:01,500 --> 00:43:04,550
joke me see
688
00:43:08,439 --> 00:43:12,130
in Chardon fire
689
00:43:12,830 --> 00:43:15,600
and it's needs to be a belly button a
690
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:19,680
small quarter pad probably pick this
691
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:27,830
beef cut these are moms
692
00:43:28,510 --> 00:43:31,930
this was food
693
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:59,490
this chart you see bigger fine
694
00:44:06,370 --> 00:44:09,270
joe-joe
695
00:44:20,900 --> 00:44:24,530
this is a mandible and human jawbone
696
00:44:24,530 --> 00:44:29,370
adult probably male you can tell it's
697
00:44:29,370 --> 00:44:30,960
more than by the silver fillings in the
698
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,140
mouth
699
00:44:38,370 --> 00:44:42,480
I hate to speculate but I believe we may
700
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:46,640
have found the remains of Gary Ward I
701
00:44:53,990 --> 00:44:57,660
came to Flores to find a creature
702
00:44:57,660 --> 00:44:59,820
involved in the deaths of two scientists
703
00:44:59,820 --> 00:45:04,110
35 years ago I never could have imagined
704
00:45:04,110 --> 00:45:06,660
that I might find the remains of one of
705
00:45:06,660 --> 00:45:17,100
those scientists we've improvised
706
00:45:17,100 --> 00:45:19,230
packing material from the case of our
707
00:45:19,230 --> 00:45:22,040
pistol Alton
708
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,859
and we're bringing the bones back with
709
00:45:25,859 --> 00:45:29,400
us to Jakarta for testing we found a few
710
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,890
more animal bones but no further human
711
00:45:31,890 --> 00:45:37,099
remains but I think we've already found
712
00:45:37,099 --> 00:45:41,480
the most important bone in their cage
713
00:45:54,470 --> 00:45:57,630
I've decided to lead for us as soon as
714
00:45:57,630 --> 00:46:00,690
possible but before we do there is one
715
00:46:00,690 --> 00:46:02,400
final location where we need to mount
716
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,789
traps
717
00:46:04,810 --> 00:46:07,970
McCann the site for register Patras
718
00:46:07,970 --> 00:46:11,470
mutilated body was found
719
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:18,080
well reg was convinced they were
720
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,800
following us
721
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:29,620
I've never seen him so unsettled before
722
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,630
Bridgers from florence near the jungle
723
00:46:37,630 --> 00:46:47,130
better than anyone seeing him a friend
724
00:46:47,130 --> 00:46:53,049
that's what maybe afraid like no one
725
00:46:53,049 --> 00:46:58,900
wanted to make a fire that night we
726
00:46:58,900 --> 00:47:00,369
didn't use our camping stove we just had
727
00:47:00,369 --> 00:47:02,109
strips of beef jerky washed down with
728
00:47:02,109 --> 00:47:05,279
spoonfuls of peanut butter
729
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:18,840
[Applause]
730
00:47:26,150 --> 00:47:29,489
[Music]
731
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,790
this is where register Patras body was
732
00:47:36,790 --> 00:47:40,780
found and standing here well this isn't
733
00:47:40,780 --> 00:47:44,440
just a site and a map anymore especially
734
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,200
not carrying what may be the remains of
735
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:54,520
Gary Ward with us my guides tell me that
736
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:55,390
to the noggin
737
00:47:55,390 --> 00:48:01,390
this place is blighted the skulls were
738
00:48:01,390 --> 00:48:07,320
put here to water why the evil there's
739
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:12,030
definite aura that hangs over the site
740
00:48:12,030 --> 00:48:15,780
you just feel it here
741
00:48:16,990 --> 00:48:20,440
you just feel that some atrocity took
742
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,860
place here
743
00:48:27,250 --> 00:48:28,930
by that afternoon we were back in
744
00:48:28,930 --> 00:48:30,820
familiar environments coming in on the
745
00:48:30,820 --> 00:48:32,290
platform site in the heart of our study
746
00:48:32,290 --> 00:48:34,580
area
747
00:48:34,580 --> 00:48:36,880
[Music]
748
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,519
remember feeling a sense of relief being
749
00:48:39,519 --> 00:48:41,200
back on our territory seeing a place
750
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:42,580
that I was familiar with
751
00:48:42,580 --> 00:48:52,380
[Music]
752
00:48:52,380 --> 00:48:55,880
I was walking behind wretch
753
00:48:56,020 --> 00:49:02,790
and suddenly I saw him stop froze
754
00:49:18,580 --> 00:49:22,410
and then I heard what it made rich hope
755
00:49:22,410 --> 00:49:25,960
[Laughter]
756
00:49:30,570 --> 00:49:37,059
it was an extinct we found it
757
00:49:37,059 --> 00:49:39,009
we were the first people in almost a
758
00:49:39,009 --> 00:49:40,869
hundred years to see the florists cops
759
00:49:40,869 --> 00:49:42,870
out
760
00:49:42,870 --> 00:49:45,480
we were gonna record it right across
761
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,290
from the platform
762
00:49:50,980 --> 00:49:53,359
and I wanted to be the first person ever
763
00:49:53,359 --> 00:49:55,930
to film it
764
00:49:58,460 --> 00:50:03,880
[Music]
765
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:05,559
I think that was the fast as they ever
766
00:50:05,559 --> 00:50:06,410
scaled the tree
767
00:50:06,410 --> 00:50:11,330
[Music]
768
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,100
that's what I saw
769
00:50:15,100 --> 00:50:18,830
they just been up there
770
00:50:18,830 --> 00:50:20,810
there was no sound falling out of
771
00:50:20,810 --> 00:50:23,290
scrapes
772
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,600
and before I could even signal over to
773
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,920
wrench our dancing
774
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:41,080
I came down so quickly I forgot to put
775
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,530
on my gloves
776
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:51,160
I didn't know what had happened I
777
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,270
thought it must have been some sort of
778
00:50:53,270 --> 00:50:54,950
equipment failure or something that
779
00:50:54,950 --> 00:50:58,330
maybe registro pit snapped
780
00:51:16,100 --> 00:51:19,330
[Music]
781
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:27,519
Carrie was devastated me blamed herself
782
00:51:27,519 --> 00:51:29,650
he felt responsible me he'd rigged the
783
00:51:29,650 --> 00:51:31,740
lines and he thought it was his fault I
784
00:51:31,740 --> 00:51:35,170
told him that it wasn't his fault it was
785
00:51:35,170 --> 00:51:36,940
the rope that there must have been some
786
00:51:36,940 --> 00:51:41,890
sort of weak spot in the rope that
787
00:51:41,890 --> 00:51:44,430
wasn't him
788
00:51:45,019 --> 00:51:48,309
I wasn't him
789
00:51:54,230 --> 00:51:56,880
the Rope discovered that the crime scene
790
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,180
was cleanly severed and dr. Darrow cut
791
00:52:00,180 --> 00:52:02,880
it just as he cut the body of mr.
792
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,120
saputra after his fall before butchering
793
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:12,380
him the story of the cuts to his hands
794
00:52:12,380 --> 00:52:16,410
the equipment failure EBU gogo Oliver
795
00:52:16,410 --> 00:52:17,730
the deluded attempt to deceive
796
00:52:17,730 --> 00:52:20,880
investigators and indeed himself his
797
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,660
psychiatric evaluation at the time was
798
00:52:24,660 --> 00:52:26,820
that his story was an attempt to spare
799
00:52:26,820 --> 00:52:30,080
himself the realization of his own guilt
800
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,000
but how can Dara have cut a rug with
801
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,700
Gary Ward watching investigators believe
802
00:52:35,700 --> 00:52:38,390
that dr. Darrow killed dr. Ward first
803
00:52:38,390 --> 00:52:43,160
before cutting the rope on mr. saputra
804
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,210
with the camera traps mounted Wade left
805
00:52:49,210 --> 00:52:51,490
forwards and returned to Jakarta to run
806
00:52:51,490 --> 00:52:53,780
tests on the bones were recovered
807
00:52:53,780 --> 00:52:54,880
[Music]
808
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,190
there weren't any DNA results from the
809
00:52:58,190 --> 00:53:00,920
jawbone was too severely charred from
810
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:04,339
the fire for any extractable DNA but the
811
00:53:04,339 --> 00:53:06,170
authorities were able to identify who
812
00:53:06,170 --> 00:53:08,630
would belong to by using a bit of
813
00:53:08,630 --> 00:53:11,599
old-fashioned police work the dental
814
00:53:11,599 --> 00:53:15,619
records we didn't find the remains of
815
00:53:15,619 --> 00:53:21,829
Gary ward it was someone else he was an
816
00:53:21,829 --> 00:53:25,010
Indonesian logging company Forester he
817
00:53:25,010 --> 00:53:27,349
went missing in the 1960s his name was
818
00:53:27,349 --> 00:53:30,140
karim napela gaba and he was side
819
00:53:30,140 --> 00:53:32,960
surveying an area for clear-cutting more
820
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:34,430
than three kilometers from the cave
821
00:53:34,430 --> 00:53:37,579
where we found it now the police took
822
00:53:37,579 --> 00:53:40,160
possession of the jawbone but I don't
823
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,230
know if they'll officially reopen the
824
00:53:42,230 --> 00:53:45,500
case but if they do we might be
825
00:53:45,500 --> 00:53:48,829
searching for the same subject because
826
00:53:48,829 --> 00:53:51,770
it appears there was a cannibal out
827
00:53:51,770 --> 00:53:54,710
there long before Tim Darrow ever set
828
00:53:54,710 --> 00:53:57,460
foot in Flores
829
00:53:59,420 --> 00:54:01,849
surprisingly even more relevant to our
830
00:54:01,849 --> 00:54:03,740
expedition with the animal remains we'd
831
00:54:03,740 --> 00:54:05,960
brought back with us
832
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,410
now analysis revealed that the gouges
833
00:54:09,410 --> 00:54:11,270
and the animal bones were found were
834
00:54:11,270 --> 00:54:14,150
caused by a small blade an electron
835
00:54:14,150 --> 00:54:16,520
microscopy detected small flecks of
836
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:20,230
flint in the notches the cuts were made
837
00:54:20,230 --> 00:54:24,380
by stone plates similar to the hobbit
838
00:54:24,380 --> 00:54:26,329
weapons we unearthed during the dig in
839
00:54:26,329 --> 00:54:31,640
2003 despite the charring we were able
840
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,099
to extract DNA which revealed that these
841
00:54:34,099 --> 00:54:38,150
were all contemporary annals these were
842
00:54:38,150 --> 00:54:43,339
recent kills something is still out
843
00:54:43,339 --> 00:54:46,760
there on Flores hunting with a similar
844
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:48,170
weapon to the ones Tim Dara was
845
00:54:48,170 --> 00:54:49,880
convicted of murdering his friends with
846
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:53,200
in 1977
847
00:54:55,310 --> 00:54:57,290
even after highly damning evidence was
848
00:54:57,290 --> 00:54:58,790
presented at his trial like the stone
849
00:54:58,790 --> 00:55:00,920
blades like the severed rope he
850
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,020
maintained his story and that story was
851
00:55:03,020 --> 00:55:04,520
so delusional if the evidence almost
852
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,910
didn't matter he was a US citizen so I
853
00:55:07,910 --> 00:55:09,470
was sent to advise him periodically
854
00:55:09,470 --> 00:55:12,680
during the legal proceedings the court
855
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,630
psychiatrist found that he had
856
00:55:14,630 --> 00:55:16,940
schizophrenic tendencies and he believed
857
00:55:16,940 --> 00:55:20,900
his own story and I agreed with the
858
00:55:20,900 --> 00:55:23,810
court's findings and totally disregarded
859
00:55:23,810 --> 00:55:28,730
what he had to say it wasn't until much
860
00:55:28,730 --> 00:55:30,410
later on that I realized what had really
861
00:55:30,410 --> 00:55:31,070
happened
862
00:55:31,070 --> 00:55:36,790
I now know they did it
863
00:55:39,690 --> 00:55:46,859
I know they cut the rope after the
864
00:55:46,859 --> 00:55:48,930
analysis from the bones I was becoming
865
00:55:48,930 --> 00:55:50,819
more and more convinced that someone or
866
00:55:50,819 --> 00:55:53,039
something other than Tim Darrow had
867
00:55:53,039 --> 00:55:54,559
committed the murders
868
00:55:54,559 --> 00:55:57,510
so before returning to Flores to check
869
00:55:57,510 --> 00:55:59,520
the traps that arranged to meet Epona /
870
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:03,150
Witte a / nur had been an instrumental
871
00:56:03,150 --> 00:56:05,750
part in the DOE investigation back in
872
00:56:05,750 --> 00:56:11,069
1977 I wanted to go over Epona's
873
00:56:11,069 --> 00:56:13,349
recollections to see if there were any
874
00:56:13,349 --> 00:56:15,690
other details who remembered that might
875
00:56:15,690 --> 00:56:17,880
help with what was becoming a case for
876
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:21,440
turned arrows exoneration
877
00:56:21,630 --> 00:56:24,939
[Music]
878
00:56:29,300 --> 00:56:32,060
silicon thank you he insisted on showing
879
00:56:32,060 --> 00:56:34,010
me something something from his time
880
00:56:34,010 --> 00:56:37,000
working in the dairy case
881
00:56:37,070 --> 00:56:38,990
yeah mumble effect she had a transferred
882
00:56:38,990 --> 00:56:41,960
VHS copy of the Indonesian national news
883
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:48,980
report and he was in it it was the first
884
00:56:48,980 --> 00:56:52,430
time I'd ever seen the report I had seen
885
00:56:52,430 --> 00:56:54,740
photos of the crime scene but seeing it
886
00:56:54,740 --> 00:56:56,960
captured a film really brought home the
887
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:01,130
horror of what occurred then right at
888
00:57:01,130 --> 00:57:03,200
the end of the footage I saw something
889
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:06,650
that I simply could not believe I didn't
890
00:57:06,650 --> 00:57:08,570
know the Indonesian word for wine I
891
00:57:08,570 --> 00:57:10,609
started check yeah I should have started
892
00:57:10,609 --> 00:57:14,660
chatting put Dortmunder but I could not
893
00:57:14,660 --> 00:57:18,770
believe what I was seeing amongst all of
894
00:57:18,770 --> 00:57:20,210
their recovered possessions was
895
00:57:20,210 --> 00:57:24,770
something I thought was lost forever the
896
00:57:24,770 --> 00:57:26,120
camera
897
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,100
the film camera Tim said he'd lost
898
00:57:28,100 --> 00:57:30,650
running out of the jungle well there it
899
00:57:30,650 --> 00:57:33,830
was it found it just a few hundred
900
00:57:33,830 --> 00:57:38,330
meters from the Cannes site neither
901
00:57:38,330 --> 00:57:40,670
their consulate nor the University had
902
00:57:40,670 --> 00:57:42,950
any record or receiving Tim's super a
903
00:57:42,950 --> 00:57:45,950
camera so at that point I only had one
904
00:57:45,950 --> 00:57:48,590
hope and I was told that protocol would
905
00:57:48,590 --> 00:57:51,110
be that any other personal effects would
906
00:57:51,110 --> 00:57:55,880
have been returned to Tim's family but
907
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:57,650
there are no records of where the Darryl
908
00:57:57,650 --> 00:57:59,450
family relocated to after they left
909
00:57:59,450 --> 00:58:01,400
Bloomington Illinois shortly after Tim's
910
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,750
conviction it was like they disappeared
911
00:58:04,750 --> 00:58:07,310
along with any chance of proving that
912
00:58:07,310 --> 00:58:09,200
the story had been telling for over 30
913
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:13,540
years may have been the truth
914
00:58:20,580 --> 00:58:23,110
we finally returned to Flores in
915
00:58:23,110 --> 00:58:25,990
September 2012 to see what the camera
916
00:58:25,990 --> 00:58:29,020
traps had recorded if we were ever going
917
00:58:29,020 --> 00:58:30,940
to gather definitive evidence of the
918
00:58:30,940 --> 00:58:33,370
creatures existence then this was our
919
00:58:33,370 --> 00:58:34,480
best chance
920
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,630
[Music]
921
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:40,800
now just a few of us have come back for
922
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:42,720
this phase of the expedition to check
923
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:44,080
the camera traps
924
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,240
[Music]
925
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,400
now this trap didn't have anything on it
926
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,490
but we've got a lot more to check so I'm
927
00:58:51,490 --> 00:58:56,170
quite optimistic here well several traps
928
00:58:56,170 --> 00:58:58,600
have been triggered but we don't know
929
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,290
would set them off
930
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,690
we have more camera traps to check over
931
00:59:08,690 --> 00:59:11,900
the next few days we might find
932
00:59:11,900 --> 00:59:14,380
something yet
933
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,550
[Music]
934
00:59:34,270 --> 00:59:37,309
[Music]
935
00:59:38,060 --> 00:59:39,800
Wow
936
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:43,890
with ourselves about Miyake removal
937
00:59:43,890 --> 00:59:48,290
equals all pow pow
938
00:59:56,190 --> 00:59:58,750
that was a macaque the commotion up in
939
00:59:58,750 --> 01:00:00,640
the trees was coming from the cactus
940
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:01,720
there must have been something up there
941
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:07,330
they didn't like Python Eagle maybe and
942
01:00:07,330 --> 01:00:09,369
that was probably an alarm call they
943
01:00:09,369 --> 01:00:11,609
were making
944
01:00:31,050 --> 01:00:34,340
we have to bury rich
945
01:00:34,630 --> 01:00:36,640
it took us a couple hours to take it
946
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,170
down to the river
947
01:00:39,170 --> 01:00:41,240
there were stones there and softer
948
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:45,980
ground we didn't have the tools to dig
949
01:00:45,980 --> 01:00:48,309
very deep
950
01:00:50,220 --> 01:00:53,289
so we we're gonna bury in here the
951
01:00:53,289 --> 01:00:55,000
ribbon that place Danzo right
952
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:58,960
I could Karen to protect him
953
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:06,260
[Music]
954
01:01:08,410 --> 01:01:12,010
[Music]
955
01:01:12,010 --> 01:01:14,420
neither dairy and I was particularly
956
01:01:14,420 --> 01:01:16,820
religious but we built a cross how two
957
01:01:16,820 --> 01:01:19,360
branches
958
01:01:19,670 --> 01:01:22,580
we said a few words for Reggie I thanked
959
01:01:22,580 --> 01:01:24,890
him for being such a valued colleague
960
01:01:24,890 --> 01:01:25,820
and
961
01:01:25,820 --> 01:01:28,190
[Music]
962
01:01:28,190 --> 01:01:30,510
and for being such a valued friend
963
01:01:30,510 --> 01:01:37,640
[Music]
964
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:41,660
I brought my camera I didn't know if it
965
01:01:41,660 --> 01:01:44,510
would help locate the Karen later on if
966
01:01:44,510 --> 01:01:46,010
the family ever wanted to bring his body
967
01:01:46,010 --> 01:01:48,460
back
968
01:01:49,300 --> 01:01:52,000
maybe if I you know ever had a chance to
969
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,160
show it or it it might afford some small
970
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:57,060
comfort to his mother
971
01:01:58,140 --> 01:02:01,280
[Music]
972
01:02:03,390 --> 01:02:07,320
[Music]
973
01:02:12,730 --> 01:02:15,819
it's quieting for all of us to be here
974
01:02:15,819 --> 01:02:19,030
again the guys really don't want to set
975
01:02:19,030 --> 01:02:20,619
up camp here and I can understand the
976
01:02:20,619 --> 01:02:21,760
reluctance so we're gonna get much
977
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:25,809
further into the jungle and I can't okay
978
01:02:25,809 --> 01:02:29,700
guys you ready we'll move off
979
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,520
we just started hiking back to the
980
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:46,000
previous science camp we were just sort
981
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:48,190
of sleepwalking our way back still in a
982
01:02:48,190 --> 01:02:51,300
state of shock over at all
983
01:02:52,170 --> 01:02:54,349
[Music]
984
01:02:54,349 --> 01:02:58,730
it was a call that snapped us out
985
01:03:28,870 --> 01:03:33,820
we saw it cut back on the path behind us
986
01:03:33,820 --> 01:03:38,020
is heading back towards reg man
987
01:03:41,540 --> 01:03:44,719
[Applause]
988
01:04:13,530 --> 01:04:23,590
[Applause]
989
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:34,969
[Applause]
990
01:04:41,460 --> 01:05:12,260
[Applause]
991
01:05:12,260 --> 01:05:13,560
yeah
992
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:15,160
[Applause]
993
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:21,590
I thought it was an acro
994
01:05:21,590 --> 01:05:25,330
[Applause]
995
01:05:25,330 --> 01:05:32,830
was a lacquer it was that
996
01:05:32,830 --> 01:05:35,909
[Music]
997
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:48,339
[Applause]
998
01:05:48,590 --> 01:05:51,699
[Music]
999
01:05:51,930 --> 01:05:52,560
[Applause]
1000
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:56,079
[Music]
1001
01:05:56,580 --> 01:06:07,310
[Applause]
1002
01:06:14,860 --> 01:06:18,019
[Applause]
1003
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:34,000
[Music]
1004
01:06:38,170 --> 01:06:41,780
my chief responsibility is the safety of
1005
01:06:41,780 --> 01:06:44,960
my thing and to be honest I'm not too
1006
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:48,560
keen staff here either we're heading
1007
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:50,740
back
1008
01:06:51,730 --> 01:06:54,750
let's get going
1009
01:07:00,510 --> 01:07:03,599
[Applause]
1010
01:07:08,490 --> 01:07:12,520
[Applause]
1011
01:07:13,059 --> 01:07:15,140
we had the audio from the footage
1012
01:07:15,140 --> 01:07:17,140
analyzed and we were able to confirm it
1013
01:07:17,140 --> 01:07:20,089
the calls were recorded were identical
1014
01:07:20,089 --> 01:07:21,829
to the ones that Tim Darrow and his team
1015
01:07:21,829 --> 01:07:26,109
captured on this very Nara back in 1977
1016
01:07:26,109 --> 01:07:29,780
they were made by the same creatures now
1017
01:07:29,780 --> 01:07:32,390
this was incredibly exciting but I
1018
01:07:32,390 --> 01:07:34,099
realized that this was more than just a
1019
01:07:34,099 --> 01:07:38,180
matter of scientific interest now you
1020
01:07:38,180 --> 01:07:42,890
see the Crown's the marking the fact
1021
01:07:42,890 --> 01:07:44,540
that the animal remains wood found were
1022
01:07:44,540 --> 01:07:47,809
recent kills these findings could all
1023
01:07:47,809 --> 01:07:51,470
help with Tim Daris case we were
1024
01:07:51,470 --> 01:07:55,520
confirming his story doctor Hornbeck
1025
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:57,200
shared his findings with me which were
1026
01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:00,799
really extraordinary no question but
1027
01:08:00,799 --> 01:08:04,839
legally there was circumstantial
1028
01:08:04,839 --> 01:08:07,549
they weren't enough to reopen a 35 year
1029
01:08:07,549 --> 01:08:12,650
old double murder case short of having
1030
01:08:12,650 --> 01:08:14,299
indisputable evidence of the creature
1031
01:08:14,299 --> 01:08:16,370
Tim Darrow described we weren't gonna
1032
01:08:16,370 --> 01:08:20,109
force a reexamination of his case
1033
01:08:20,519 --> 01:08:24,149
we needed to find them we needed proof
1034
01:08:24,149 --> 01:08:28,339
that the hobbits were still out there
1035
01:08:28,339 --> 01:08:31,078
three months later I led another
1036
01:08:31,078 --> 01:08:32,969
expedition back into the interior of
1037
01:08:32,969 --> 01:08:34,038
Flores
1038
01:08:34,038 --> 01:08:36,868
we were taking greater precautions we
1039
01:08:36,868 --> 01:08:39,078
were better armed and had much greater
1040
01:08:39,078 --> 01:08:43,129
expectations that we would find them
1041
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:55,799
[Music]
1042
01:08:55,799 --> 01:08:59,040
what is it
1043
01:09:01,770 --> 01:09:04,180
this is saying
1044
01:09:04,180 --> 01:09:12,490
I remember sitting there crouched over
1045
01:09:12,490 --> 01:09:14,109
in the middle of the jungle in total
1046
01:09:14,109 --> 01:09:19,390
darkness but without any internal debate
1047
01:09:19,390 --> 01:09:20,710
about whether to turn on my flashlight
1048
01:09:20,710 --> 01:09:28,020
or not I was terrified of a time - I
1049
01:09:28,020 --> 01:09:30,520
think that was the most scared I was the
1050
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:33,750
entire time I was out there
1051
01:09:35,399 --> 01:09:38,779
finally I turned it on
1052
01:09:40,319 --> 01:09:43,080
I covered it with my hand at the reading
1053
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:49,710
on the compass it was in my time as soon
1054
01:09:49,710 --> 01:09:51,750
as I did it turned it off and then I
1055
01:09:51,750 --> 01:09:58,830
started walking again I just kept
1056
01:09:58,830 --> 01:10:06,060
walking and walk-in until I couldn't
1057
01:10:06,060 --> 01:10:08,660
walk anymore
1058
01:10:17,590 --> 01:10:22,090
a little after sunrise the next morning
1059
01:10:22,090 --> 01:10:26,710
I knew I'd guessed wrong I saw one of
1060
01:10:26,710 --> 01:10:28,840
our study Eagles flying overhead one
1061
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:32,590
with knots flight feather I knew where a
1062
01:10:32,590 --> 01:10:34,240
nest was and that she was headed towards
1063
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:35,620
it near the river
1064
01:10:35,620 --> 01:10:40,250
I followed the river I might get out
1065
01:10:40,250 --> 01:10:47,459
[Music]
1066
01:11:05,550 --> 01:11:10,250
[Music]
1067
01:11:10,250 --> 01:11:13,580
I stayed in a channel away from the
1068
01:11:13,580 --> 01:11:18,220
banks and away from the trees
1069
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:30,600
[Music]
1070
01:11:44,890 --> 01:11:47,840
some kind of problem up there I'm not
1071
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:49,250
sure what it is cuz I can understand
1072
01:11:49,250 --> 01:12:11,080
these guys I'm gonna go look it up here
1073
01:12:11,270 --> 01:12:14,550
we discriminate those a camera trapping
1074
01:12:14,550 --> 01:12:17,270
a speaker up here
1075
01:12:19,380 --> 01:12:22,619
they're gone
1076
01:12:33,620 --> 01:12:41,340
[Music]
1077
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:48,910
come on guys
1078
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:10,030
something was able to dislodge this
1079
01:13:10,030 --> 01:13:12,030
tribe from the tree forcibly dislodge it
1080
01:13:12,030 --> 01:13:16,290
nearly 100 feet off the ground
1081
01:13:24,119 --> 01:13:27,670
we proved something was out there but we
1082
01:13:27,670 --> 01:13:29,400
hadn't proved what that something was
1083
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:32,380
what we had was very suggestive but not
1084
01:13:32,380 --> 01:13:34,809
conclusive and we hadn't found anything
1085
01:13:34,809 --> 01:13:37,929
out there that would help Tim we didn't
1086
01:13:37,929 --> 01:13:42,960
get them on camera but Tim Darrow did
1087
01:13:43,440 --> 01:13:45,670
doctor Hornbeck mentioned to me that he
1088
01:13:45,670 --> 01:13:47,260
was attempting to find any remaining
1089
01:13:47,260 --> 01:13:49,929
members of Timothy Darrow's family the
1090
01:13:49,929 --> 01:13:51,639
parents had died several years previous
1091
01:13:51,639 --> 01:13:54,550
so through the US State Department I
1092
01:13:54,550 --> 01:13:57,340
tracked down Timothy Darrow sister her
1093
01:13:57,340 --> 01:13:59,679
married name was Susan Clemens and we
1094
01:13:59,679 --> 01:14:02,980
had an address in Parsons Kansas and we
1095
01:14:02,980 --> 01:14:06,130
had a telephone number it took a while
1096
01:14:06,130 --> 01:14:08,139
before I finally managed to get her on
1097
01:14:08,139 --> 01:14:10,690
the phone and when I did I explained
1098
01:14:10,690 --> 01:14:13,539
that I had reason to believe that Tim
1099
01:14:13,539 --> 01:14:20,199
had been telling the truth I just
1100
01:14:20,199 --> 01:14:24,219
couldn't process at all he'd seen my
1101
01:14:24,219 --> 01:14:27,550
brother my father wouldn't even let us
1102
01:14:27,550 --> 01:14:29,969
say his name
1103
01:14:29,969 --> 01:14:34,039
It was as if he was dead
1104
01:14:34,110 --> 01:14:39,900
he said he'd visited him in prison and
1105
01:14:39,900 --> 01:14:43,440
believed his story
1106
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:53,710
we couldn't even say his name
1107
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:58,060
understandably she became very emotional
1108
01:14:58,060 --> 01:15:00,830
but after explaining my findings to her
1109
01:15:00,830 --> 01:15:02,900
I was able to ask her what I needed to
1110
01:15:02,900 --> 01:15:05,690
know had any of Tim's possessions ever
1111
01:15:05,690 --> 01:15:09,910
been returned to her or her family a
1112
01:15:10,090 --> 01:15:12,500
couple of years after the trial a big
1113
01:15:12,500 --> 01:15:15,710
packing box arrived my father wouldn't
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even open it he took it out to the curb
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and dumped it to be picked up at the
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trash but I went straight out there and
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I brought it back inside
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because he was my brother and whatever
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else I couldn't let the last part of him
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that we had be hauled away with the
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trash the odds that the camera ever made
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it back were long the odds that the film
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stock hadn't degraded over time were
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long and the odds that there was
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anything captured in those films at all
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those odds were now said against Tim
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Daris chance for vindication
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she had the camera
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[Music]
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there were three reels of film that were
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recovered from Tim Darrow super8 camera
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the first reel clearly depicts an
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ape-like creature breaking through the
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canopy the second reel was shot from the
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blind where they lured it in with bird
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calls and they're clearly what was
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filmed was a bipedal creature had walked
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into legs
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[Music]
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and what's significant about these first
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two wheels is that it demonstrates that
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the Tim film was a creature that was
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capable in the trees and they could walk
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in the ground just like we know hobbits
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could from analyzing the remains
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just like the Naga stories claimed they
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could
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and what the creature is sparc huge
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debate there are a number of competing
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theories there is speculation that this
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could be a pond boy tape an orangutan
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relative that there might be an
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undiscovered orangutan population that
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had evolved in Flores independently
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developing unusual traits there's
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another theory that this was a
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subspecies of macaque worth variant
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coloration and incidental bipedalism the
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only thing there wasn't debate about is
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that this creature had never been seen
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before
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what was on the third reel was also
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consistent with what the Nagi said about
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them and it was very difficult to watch
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it confirmed the horror of what Tim
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Darrow and his friends went through and
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it held huge ramifications for Tim's
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case
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the films are undoubtedly very
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compelling and they do seem to
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corroborate Timothy Darrow's account of
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the events so based on this new evidence
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we would have one of these films
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reviewed in a US courtroom and we would
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have made a formal application to the
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Indonesian government to have Timothy
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Darrow extradited back to the United
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States
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when I first met Tim at the hospital my
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purpose was to advise him but after
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seeing the footage I had a profound
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sense of regret because the fact is I
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would have advised him differently had I
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considered that he might be telling the
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truth
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but like everyone else I just
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disregarded him I was the one person
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whose job it was to listen to him and to
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try to help him and I did not do that I
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wasn't imagining things I wasn't hearing
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things
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it was one of them
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[Applause]
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[Applause]
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we just stood there for a minute didn't
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[Music]
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I just watched me watching me
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[Music]
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that's the last little memory I have of
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being outside all the times I spoke with
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Tim he never once asked me if I believed
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him and I very much regret that I never
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told him that I do
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[Music]
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dr. horn that brought my brother back to
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me
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and so for that I'm very grateful I have
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one of his old birdhouses outside the
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kitchen window no and I love watching
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the birds coming to nests there
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and I think it would make him happy to
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know they're still using it
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[Music]
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I thought it was very important that Tim
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be remembered as a scientist remembered
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for his discoveries in June 2014 a
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scientific team filmed the forest scopes
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out they filmed it and recorded its call
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it hadn't gone extinct they found it now
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this is the last recording the 10 Darrow
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graduates of Putra and Gary Ward ever
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captured on their Niagara
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[Music]
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as for them how many of them are still
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out there the forest has changed so much
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even during the period of our expedition
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and the forests are going so whatever
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the creature was that he filmed Tim
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Darrow may have been the last person to
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see it but it won't be the last to go
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looking
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I'm still looking
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[Music]
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