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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,240 Here in England 2 00:00:53,500 --> 00:00:55,787 no other club would sing this song. 3 00:01:10,583 --> 00:01:11,823 Now there is this anthem, 4 00:01:12,042 --> 00:01:14,249 a message, easily understood, 5 00:01:14,417 --> 00:01:15,532 which unites people. 6 00:02:30,125 --> 00:02:32,412 Here. Mahalia Jackson. 7 00:02:43,250 --> 00:02:44,240 Carousel. 8 00:02:52,292 --> 00:02:53,327 Where are the singles? 9 00:02:53,542 --> 00:02:56,034 Where are they? - The 45s are on your left. 10 00:02:56,250 --> 00:02:57,411 Right in front of you. 11 00:03:35,625 --> 00:03:38,617 Hey! What an entry. 12 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:46,365 Welcome to Vienna. 13 00:03:47,625 --> 00:03:49,241 Nice that it worked out. 14 00:04:08,667 --> 00:04:11,910 You're a devil, you are ... - Keep away from her! 15 00:04:12,125 --> 00:04:14,833 Liliom, I'll get Hollinger to give you such a beating 16 00:04:15,042 --> 00:04:17,079 that you'll hear the angels sing. 17 00:04:17,292 --> 00:04:20,410 It wouldn't be the first time. - Get out of here, you're discharged. 18 00:04:20,625 --> 00:04:21,911 But Mr. Liliom ... - Shut up! 19 00:04:25,625 --> 00:04:27,081 Are you sorry for him? 20 00:04:28,250 --> 00:04:30,412 Are you? - Yes, a little. 21 00:04:31,792 --> 00:04:35,114 Why are you looking at him in that funny way? 22 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,492 Nothing. Except I'm sorry he lost his job. 23 00:04:38,750 --> 00:04:40,787 It was because of us. Because he's 24 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,332 fallen in love with you. - He hasn't. 25 00:04:43,542 --> 00:04:45,658 Oh, yes, he is in love with you. 26 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,867 Ferenc Molnar was the greatest author of his era 27 00:04:49,083 --> 00:04:51,791 and I think he wrote more than 60 plays. 28 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,992 They weren't just slapped out. He was celebrated. 29 00:04:55,250 --> 00:04:57,582 Everybody knew him, a superstar. 30 00:04:59,583 --> 00:05:04,077 "Liliom" is a cultural asset, like "Faust"� for the Germans. 31 00:05:04,292 --> 00:05:06,249 Liliom belongs here 32 00:05:06,500 --> 00:05:09,083 and you must love it and Liliom ... 33 00:05:09,292 --> 00:05:10,123 is theirs. 34 00:05:10,333 --> 00:05:14,531 But Liliom is a cruel figure, not at all likeable. 35 00:05:14,750 --> 00:05:17,617 But he's not from here, he comes from Budapest. 36 00:06:51,792 --> 00:06:55,410 In the first 8 minutes everyone loses their job. - Right. 37 00:06:55,625 --> 00:07:00,074 Two servant girls sit in the Prater. One of them, Julie, 38 00:07:00,292 --> 00:07:03,080 meets Liliom, he gets fired, she gets fired. 39 00:07:03,833 --> 00:07:07,030 He starts beating her up during her pregnancy. 40 00:07:07,250 --> 00:07:12,370 This subject is not very nice. At that time, I was told, 41 00:07:12,583 --> 00:07:16,907 Ferenc Molnar beat up his women quite badly. 42 00:07:17,125 --> 00:07:21,289 Writing about it was a kind of absolution for him. 43 00:07:21,500 --> 00:07:23,036 That's how the play ends. 44 00:07:23,250 --> 00:07:26,117 "Someone may beat you and not hurt you at all." 45 00:07:26,333 --> 00:07:28,745 That's how it ends and you think "whoa". 46 00:09:16,750 --> 00:09:19,412 I almost said the BVB is older than the song. 47 00:09:19,625 --> 00:09:21,912 But we've learned a short while ago 48 00:09:22,125 --> 00:09:25,743 that Liliom was written in 1909 by Ferenc Molnar. 49 00:09:25,917 --> 00:09:31,663 This can't be a coincidence. BVB 09, 1909 - a magic circle. 50 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,412 Come in. - Hello, Jan. 51 00:09:46,625 --> 00:09:49,413 Hi, Joachim. Welcome on the hallowed ground. 52 00:09:49,625 --> 00:09:53,664 Let me enter slowly. I've never been here before. 53 00:09:55,250 --> 00:09:58,163 History surrounds you. - Yes, a historical venue. 54 00:09:58,375 --> 00:10:02,539 Probably one of the most historical venues in Northrhine-Westphalia 55 00:10:02,750 --> 00:10:04,991 or the German football world. 56 00:10:05,792 --> 00:10:07,248 Where am I? - This is 57 00:10:07,500 --> 00:10:09,116 the hall of mirrors. 58 00:10:09,333 --> 00:10:13,657 In this room, on this ground, Franz Jacobi and 17 of his friends 59 00:10:13,875 --> 00:10:17,413 founded the BVB over a 100 years ago. Here in this room. 60 00:10:18,250 --> 00:10:21,868 And I've got the honour to live here, which is cool. - It's yours? 61 00:10:22,083 --> 00:10:24,825 This is my realm, it's mine. Well ... 62 00:10:25,042 --> 00:10:27,750 Whoa, it gives me goosebumps. 63 00:10:29,417 --> 00:10:30,578 And it's 64 00:10:30,833 --> 00:10:33,996 the original floor, those thick timber floor boards. 65 00:10:34,250 --> 00:10:38,995 I won't kneel down like Karol Woytila and kiss the floor 66 00:10:39,250 --> 00:10:41,787 but the thought crossed my mind. 67 00:10:42,583 --> 00:10:45,120 Fantastic. - This was the hall of mirrors. 68 00:10:45,333 --> 00:10:48,997 It was the big ball room of the restaurant "Zum Wildsch�tz" 69 00:10:49,167 --> 00:10:51,408 which was located on the ground floor. 70 00:10:51,625 --> 00:10:53,366 This was the room for events 71 00:10:53,583 --> 00:10:54,414 like weddings. 72 00:10:54,625 --> 00:10:57,743 Here's where they got together on 19 December 1909 73 00:10:57,917 --> 00:11:00,875 and decided to set up a football club. 74 00:11:01,083 --> 00:11:02,494 That'd be a good idea. 75 00:11:02,750 --> 00:11:05,822 It was the young men's association of the congregation 76 00:11:06,042 --> 00:11:09,239 who had problems with the chaplain of the 77 00:11:09,417 --> 00:11:10,578 Holy Trinity church 78 00:11:10,792 --> 00:11:14,660 and they set up the club because they wanted to play football. 79 00:11:14,875 --> 00:11:19,620 At the time this was frowned upon in the German Reich. 80 00:11:19,833 --> 00:11:22,120 Gymnastics was what you did. 81 00:11:22,667 --> 00:11:25,864 Unlike the English 82 00:11:26,083 --> 00:11:28,916 who played football, chaplain Hubert Dewald 83 00:11:29,125 --> 00:11:31,537 went along with the view of doctors 84 00:11:31,750 --> 00:11:34,242 and teachers in secondary schools 85 00:11:34,417 --> 00:11:38,411 who called it "football oafishness" or "island monkey sport". 86 00:11:38,833 --> 00:11:39,994 He dreamt up 87 00:11:40,167 --> 00:11:43,910 quite a lot of tricks to lead the young Catholics back 88 00:11:44,125 --> 00:11:46,833 to a virtuous life. It was said 89 00:11:47,042 --> 00:11:50,535 that he had the goal posts on the White Field sawn off. 90 00:11:50,917 --> 00:11:51,827 It was him then! 91 00:11:53,292 --> 00:11:56,535 The boys met here and said, we must leave the church. 92 00:11:56,750 --> 00:11:58,332 We need our own football club. 93 00:11:58,542 --> 00:12:02,410 Then they noticed that they didn't have a name. 94 00:12:02,625 --> 00:12:07,825 So then Franz Jacobi said, "Borussia Dortmund� sounds great. 95 00:12:08,042 --> 00:12:11,489 His father worked in Dortmund in the Borussia brewery. 96 00:12:12,250 --> 00:12:13,365 So they decided 97 00:12:13,583 --> 00:12:17,907 to call the club Borussia Dortmund. I think it wasn't a bad idea. 98 00:12:18,125 --> 00:12:20,082 "Borussia" is Latin for Prussia. 99 00:12:20,292 --> 00:12:23,330 But it had nothing to do with the fatherland. 100 00:12:23,542 --> 00:12:26,159 The boys took the name after the brewery. 101 00:12:26,375 --> 00:12:27,490 I like that. 102 00:12:27,750 --> 00:12:29,491 In Dortmund it was named after 103 00:12:29,667 --> 00:12:32,989 the beer. It had nothing to do with patriotism. - Great. 104 00:12:33,250 --> 00:12:34,115 Chaplain Dewald 105 00:12:34,333 --> 00:12:36,745 tried to intervene and storm this room. 106 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,868 Franz Jacobi pushed him down the stairs. 107 00:12:41,083 --> 00:12:44,997 The one I just climbed up? - The very one you climbed up. 108 00:12:45,167 --> 00:12:46,407 Chaplain Dewald 109 00:12:46,625 --> 00:12:47,990 fell down backwards. 110 00:12:48,250 --> 00:12:50,787 Franz Jacobi once said, "I didn't hit him. 111 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:52,991 The chaplain ran into my fist.� 112 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,992 Who said, "He mustn't run where I do a sliding tackle"? 113 00:12:57,250 --> 00:12:58,490 It was Neven Subotic. 114 00:12:58,667 --> 00:12:59,828 Subotic said it. 115 00:13:00,500 --> 00:13:02,161 The church chronicle says, 116 00:13:02,375 --> 00:13:04,616 "From that moment 117 00:13:04,833 --> 00:13:07,120 the football fever infected the boys." 118 00:13:07,333 --> 00:13:10,405 At that time, the BVB only happened at Borsigplatz. 119 00:13:10,625 --> 00:13:14,789 All 18 founders lived within 5 minutes walking distance. 120 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,992 Before the BVB was forcefully resettled by the Nazis 121 00:13:18,167 --> 00:13:19,532 to the "Rote Erde" stadium 122 00:13:19,750 --> 00:13:22,333 because this was known as the red Borsigplatz. 123 00:13:22,542 --> 00:13:24,783 The Nazis never got a foot in Borsigplatz. 124 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,490 The White Field was razed 125 00:13:26,750 --> 00:13:30,414 and the BVB was forced to resettle in the supposedly rich south 126 00:13:30,625 --> 00:13:32,366 and to the Rote Erde stadium. 127 00:13:45,292 --> 00:13:47,158 I have a pack of cards in my pocket. 128 00:13:52,917 --> 00:13:54,078 It doesn't hurt. 129 00:14:04,583 --> 00:14:06,119 That's me as Julie. 130 00:14:11,542 --> 00:14:12,282 Ferenc Molnar 131 00:14:12,500 --> 00:14:16,664 sat here every day and watched the rehearsals. 132 00:14:16,875 --> 00:14:20,743 He knew how the actors had to play 133 00:14:20,917 --> 00:14:23,784 and how the audience would react. 134 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,537 His story started here. 135 00:14:26,750 --> 00:14:29,868 Here he learned about the theatre. In this venue. 136 00:15:40,417 --> 00:15:44,035 It's one of the most extraordinary plays of Molnar 137 00:15:44,625 --> 00:15:46,582 where humour 138 00:15:46,792 --> 00:15:52,617 and the strength of drama have an equal place. 139 00:15:53,333 --> 00:15:56,496 And male characteristics are shown 140 00:15:57,375 --> 00:16:00,413 which create an antagonism in a man. 141 00:16:01,500 --> 00:16:06,074 Liliom wants to spend his life 142 00:16:06,292 --> 00:16:07,828 with the servant girl 143 00:16:08,042 --> 00:16:10,500 and with Mrs. Muskat 144 00:16:10,750 --> 00:16:17,406 he wants to live his devilish, sexual, erotic desires 145 00:16:17,625 --> 00:16:19,536 which men fantasise about. 146 00:16:19,750 --> 00:16:23,493 And we forgive Liliom because 147 00:16:23,667 --> 00:16:30,118 he's aware of it and doesn't deny it. 148 00:16:31,417 --> 00:16:36,332 Can there be such a traditional perception that people ignore this? 149 00:16:36,542 --> 00:16:37,782 His abuse of women? 150 00:16:38,583 --> 00:16:44,374 That they prefer to see the rascal who is forgiven everything? 151 00:16:44,583 --> 00:16:46,665 Yes, of course, exactly. 152 00:16:46,875 --> 00:16:51,324 But I think the play is widely misunderstood. 153 00:16:51,542 --> 00:16:53,783 The performance tradition was different. 154 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:54,831 Josef Meinrad, 155 00:16:55,042 --> 00:16:58,239 Hans Albers were great and wonderful actors. 156 00:16:58,417 --> 00:17:01,079 So was Paul H�rbiger, popular and likeable 157 00:17:01,292 --> 00:17:06,537 and who was completely miscast in this character. 158 00:17:06,750 --> 00:17:09,082 But they played him like this, 159 00:17:09,292 --> 00:17:13,490 with a little cheeky, winking eye. 160 00:17:32,917 --> 00:17:34,078 It was always 161 00:17:34,292 --> 00:17:40,117 brushed aside that it's about a man who beats his pregnant wife 162 00:17:40,333 --> 00:17:44,327 and then he comes back after 16 years in a rose-tinted purgatory. 163 00:17:44,542 --> 00:17:48,581 A lovely idea to be sitting in a rose-tinted purgatory, isn't it? 164 00:17:48,792 --> 00:17:52,239 He comes back after 16 years and the first thing he does 165 00:17:52,500 --> 00:17:58,041 is to give his child, his daughter a good beating. I mean ... 166 00:17:58,250 --> 00:18:04,075 Please, Miss. I must do something very nice and fine for myself. 167 00:18:04,292 --> 00:18:05,157 Get out! 168 00:18:05,375 --> 00:18:07,161 Please, Miss. - Now! 169 00:18:14,542 --> 00:18:17,000 I think it's the Prater or yer, 170 00:18:17,250 --> 00:18:19,662 or the carousel pusher. 171 00:18:19,875 --> 00:18:24,745 The desire for the romanticism of this fair 172 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,664 is a big part of it. The wife-beating 173 00:18:28,875 --> 00:18:32,914 is easily forgotten when you think of this play, do you get me? 174 00:18:41,542 --> 00:18:43,249 It was transposed to Vienna 175 00:18:43,500 --> 00:18:45,662 and it became such a success 176 00:18:45,875 --> 00:18:48,287 because it played in the Prater. 177 00:18:51,667 --> 00:18:55,160 Just look at the films of the 50s. What did we Germans do? 178 00:18:55,375 --> 00:18:59,994 Or we Austrians? In the 50s? How quickly did we forget 179 00:19:00,167 --> 00:19:02,659 and people happily sang about white lilac 180 00:19:02,875 --> 00:19:05,492 while frolicking across the Prater. 181 00:19:41,500 --> 00:19:44,162 Can you live in this spirit 182 00:19:44,375 --> 00:19:46,412 without following the rituals? - No, 183 00:19:46,625 --> 00:19:49,743 originally the rituals aren't important in Judaism. 184 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,911 There are no rituals in the Bible, 185 00:19:52,125 --> 00:19:55,789 ho synagogues. My grandfather never went 186 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,240 into a temple. 187 00:20:11,250 --> 00:20:13,366 Also today there are Jewish authors, 188 00:20:13,583 --> 00:20:15,244 lots of them, 189 00:20:15,500 --> 00:20:18,242 and very good comedy writers. 190 00:20:18,667 --> 00:20:21,079 It was always the advantage 191 00:20:21,292 --> 00:20:22,157 of being Jewish 192 00:20:22,375 --> 00:20:26,573 that we have a sense of humour. Even in the Bible there is ... 193 00:20:26,792 --> 00:20:32,287 Humour is important for the oppressed. 194 00:22:40,042 --> 00:22:41,532 Mahalia Jackson. 195 00:22:42,583 --> 00:22:45,075 I'm curious. I've never listened to it. 196 00:29:25,625 --> 00:29:26,490 Let's get back 197 00:29:26,667 --> 00:29:27,782 to the death scene. 198 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,790 What's her last sentence again? Isn't is something about sleep? 199 00:29:33,250 --> 00:29:35,412 "Sleep, my Liliom, sleep.� Exactly. 200 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,332 "Julie, my girl, I'm leaving," he says. 201 00:29:38,542 --> 00:29:42,615 He gets up again and says, "Julie, my girl, look, there's Liliom". 202 00:29:42,833 --> 00:29:44,915 That's nice. "Look, there's Liliom". 203 00:29:52,375 --> 00:29:53,490 "Sleep, my Liliom." 204 00:29:53,750 --> 00:29:55,912 At that point I left for my next performance. 205 00:29:56,125 --> 00:29:58,366 That's all I ever heard. - I mention it 206 00:29:58,583 --> 00:30:01,416 because it's written on his tombstone. - Molnar's? 207 00:30:01,625 --> 00:30:03,741 We visited his grave in New York. 208 00:30:04,417 --> 00:30:07,375 It's quite a simple tombstone with his name. 209 00:30:07,583 --> 00:30:11,497 The dates. And written at the bottom this quote. 210 00:30:12,083 --> 00:30:12,914 That's crazy. 211 00:30:27,792 --> 00:30:31,330 SLEEP PEACEFULLY NOW, LILIOM ... 212 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,241 You came here with a sense of belonging 213 00:32:50,417 --> 00:32:54,991 and I understood this very early on when I came here with my father. 214 00:32:55,250 --> 00:32:57,491 You were Westfalia Herne. 215 00:32:57,750 --> 00:33:02,119 You came here as often as possible, met your friends. 216 00:33:02,333 --> 00:33:05,621 Becoming more independent creates a spatial distance from the club 217 00:33:05,833 --> 00:33:07,289 but the communication 218 00:33:07,500 --> 00:33:10,663 with my father about what was happening here 219 00:33:10,875 --> 00:33:15,415 was the permanent umbilical cord to the club, to the town. 220 00:33:15,625 --> 00:33:17,286 So today is 221 00:33:17,500 --> 00:33:19,332 a very emotional day for me. 222 00:33:26,042 --> 00:33:29,831 At the time my father worked three shifts below ground. 223 00:33:30,083 --> 00:33:34,623 That's not how we hope to live with our children, that you ... 224 00:33:36,167 --> 00:33:38,534 spend as much time as possible together. 225 00:33:38,750 --> 00:33:41,367 During the week he simply wasn't there. 226 00:33:41,625 --> 00:33:45,619 From early childhood this ritual, the walk to the stadium, 227 00:33:45,833 --> 00:33:47,494 was our time together. 228 00:33:47,667 --> 00:33:52,332 When it became more and more important to discuss things - 229 00:33:53,042 --> 00:33:56,740 long hair, puberty, failure at school and all these issues - 230 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,790 these few hours of just the two of us were brilliant for this. 231 00:34:02,333 --> 00:34:06,076 When I was so small the sport itself wasn't really important. 232 00:34:06,292 --> 00:34:09,660 Spending time with my father was important. 233 00:34:14,917 --> 00:34:19,582 We stood over there, on the left behind the goal. 234 00:34:19,792 --> 00:34:21,157 By the wavebreakers. 235 00:34:21,917 --> 00:34:24,124 Probably the second in the centre. 236 00:34:53,333 --> 00:34:55,370 The Rote Erde stadium was built 237 00:34:55,583 --> 00:34:58,416 and in the 30s Schalke played in this stadium. 238 00:34:58,625 --> 00:35:00,582 The BVB came much later. 239 00:35:00,792 --> 00:35:03,659 The BVB was always a local club from Borsigplatz. - I see. 240 00:35:03,875 --> 00:35:06,993 Can you remember your first visits at the stadium? 241 00:35:07,250 --> 00:35:08,991 Very well, indeed. 242 00:35:09,167 --> 00:35:11,784 I think I was 6 years old at the time 243 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:17,166 and the A team played against the Romanian national team. 244 00:35:17,375 --> 00:35:22,120 My father wanted to show me the best player ever, Marcel Raducanu. 245 00:35:22,333 --> 00:35:27,499 That's why I went to the stadium for the very first time with my father. 246 00:35:28,042 --> 00:35:32,491 A few months later he fled Romania 247 00:35:32,667 --> 00:35:35,329 and became a player for Borussia Dortmund. 248 00:35:41,750 --> 00:35:45,539 I was once asked if for a certain period of time I'd like 249 00:35:45,792 --> 00:35:48,989 to enter the skin of another man. 250 00:35:49,250 --> 00:35:52,493 I said, I'd love to spend a few years as Keith Richard 251 00:35:52,750 --> 00:35:54,787 and 11 seconds as Lars Ricken. 252 00:35:57,042 --> 00:35:58,282 Molter. Ricken. 253 00:35:58,750 --> 00:36:00,582 Ricken. Now chip. 254 00:36:01,292 --> 00:36:02,123 Yes!!! 255 00:36:03,333 --> 00:36:06,530 Five seconds on the field, five seconds. 256 00:36:08,500 --> 00:36:09,535 Lars Ricken. 257 00:36:11,667 --> 00:36:14,830 Mostly the fans tell me their story. 258 00:36:15,042 --> 00:36:17,830 One was on the toilet, another fetched a beer. 259 00:36:18,042 --> 00:36:20,875 One tells me off for having aimed for the goal. 260 00:36:21,125 --> 00:36:25,039 Three seconds later they were all heaped on him and were happy. 261 00:36:25,250 --> 00:36:28,413 There is a story from Friedensplatz: I shoot the goal, 262 00:36:28,625 --> 00:36:32,869 a man and a woman who don't know each other, embrace in celebration, 263 00:36:33,083 --> 00:36:36,576 they get to know and love each other, marry, have a child 264 00:36:36,792 --> 00:36:40,114 and the child is called Lars. So ... Therefore ... 265 00:36:48,750 --> 00:36:50,991 Was there a club anthem at the time? 266 00:36:51,917 --> 00:36:57,117 The first song that could be defined as a club anthem is by Heinrich Unger, 267 00:36:57,333 --> 00:37:02,123 one of the founders. At the front in France he rewrote the soldier song 268 00:37:02,333 --> 00:37:06,577 "Argonnerwald um Mitternacht" for his football club. We know the line 269 00:37:06,792 --> 00:37:10,490 "But one thing remains Borussia Dortmund always prevails". 270 00:37:15,500 --> 00:37:16,740 This song is sung today 271 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,992 on many stands but the original is from Dortmund. 272 00:37:20,167 --> 00:37:24,365 From one of the founders who during the war thought about his club 273 00:37:24,583 --> 00:37:31,159 and wrote the first anthem for his football club, Borussia Dortmund. 274 00:37:31,375 --> 00:37:34,117 It is still part of the official club anthem, 275 00:37:34,333 --> 00:37:36,540 "We stand together, firm and loyal". 276 00:57:13,500 --> 00:57:15,992 Yes, cellos, come in. Come in. 277 00:57:25,083 --> 00:57:27,165 Thomas, I remember we first met 278 00:57:27,375 --> 00:57:33,246 in Dortmund at the last match of J�rgen Klopp as their coach. 279 00:57:33,833 --> 00:57:38,031 We're in front of this box and to our left 280 00:57:38,292 --> 00:57:45,619 a choir of 27,000 sings "You'll never walk alone�. 281 00:57:46,583 --> 00:57:48,369 How did you like this choir? 282 00:57:49,125 --> 00:57:50,286 It was fantastic. 283 00:57:50,500 --> 00:57:52,491 It's almost the original version 284 00:57:52,750 --> 00:57:56,869 and we have many football fans in our choir and orchestra. 285 00:57:57,167 --> 00:58:00,660 They're not all fans of Borussia Dortmund. 286 00:58:00,875 --> 00:58:03,993 I have to admit there are fans of Bayern Munich too. 287 00:58:04,250 --> 00:58:08,494 But there are fans of Barcelona, Madrid, Arsenal London, Liverpool. 288 00:58:08,667 --> 00:58:10,249 The whole lot. - St. Pauli? 289 00:58:10,417 --> 00:58:11,373 And St. Pauli. 290 00:58:11,583 --> 00:58:16,498 As you know, our ensemble is made up of musicians from 25 countries. 291 00:58:16,833 --> 00:58:21,373 Some of them really sang it in the stand. 292 00:58:21,583 --> 00:58:24,655 So we said, let's do it all of us and here. 293 00:58:27,250 --> 00:58:29,537 Let's do it just ... 294 00:58:29,750 --> 00:58:31,991 A little higher. From the start. 295 00:58:41,833 --> 00:58:45,827 The one big ritual which is understood worldwide is football. 296 00:58:46,250 --> 00:58:48,287 And the other ritual 297 00:58:48,500 --> 00:58:50,286 understood worldwide is music. 298 00:58:50,542 --> 00:58:55,742 Music doesn't need lyrics or comprehensible words. 299 00:58:57,292 --> 00:59:00,990 I notice this as a conductor when I work in Asia 300 00:59:01,167 --> 00:59:04,034 or in Africa or Latin America. 301 00:59:04,500 --> 00:59:08,664 When I worked there people don't speak German or English. 302 00:59:08,875 --> 00:59:11,492 Quite often they don't. But music 303 00:59:11,667 --> 00:59:13,658 makes us find a common language. 304 00:59:13,875 --> 00:59:18,290 That's where music and football have a lot in common. 305 00:59:18,833 --> 00:59:20,073 We had the pleasure 306 00:59:20,292 --> 00:59:23,580 to play against Liverpool in the Europa League. 307 00:59:23,875 --> 00:59:28,324 And when we played in Dortmund, all the fans 308 00:59:28,542 --> 00:59:30,579 sang the song. 309 00:59:30,833 --> 00:59:34,155 Those from Dortmund. Then the Liverpudlians. 310 00:59:34,375 --> 00:59:39,541 You could notice ... these were two different cups of tea. 311 00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,868 The Liverpool fans sang with much more verve. 312 00:59:44,083 --> 00:59:49,783 It was almost like defiance, as if you had to keep making a point. 313 00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:53,038 Of course the English fans sing it so much better. 314 00:59:53,250 --> 00:59:57,164 They are much more sure of it. They know the lyrics, the notes. 315 00:59:57,375 --> 01:00:02,290 It has to do with a very different sing-along tradition in England. 316 01:00:08,375 --> 01:00:12,619 It's remarkable that in England they sing entire long songs. 317 01:00:12,833 --> 01:00:14,995 Not like fan songs in Germany. 318 01:00:15,250 --> 01:00:21,371 When I was young a fan song consisted of "Referee, telephone�. 319 01:00:21,583 --> 01:00:23,039 You could memorise this. 320 01:00:23,250 --> 01:00:26,413 A German fan couldn't memorise much more than this. 321 01:00:26,625 --> 01:00:32,120 It's great that in England they sing a song from beginning to end. 322 01:00:32,333 --> 01:00:35,576 The people know the lyrics, they understand them. 323 01:04:58,167 --> 01:04:59,498 That was a nice version. 324 01:04:59,667 --> 01:05:02,500 We'll do this as an encore instead of Haydn. 325 01:05:15,750 --> 01:05:19,072 It was a stroke of genius by Rodgers and Hammerstein. 326 01:05:19,583 --> 01:05:20,618 No doubt about it. 327 01:05:20,833 --> 01:05:24,576 Although they probably never gave it a moment's thought 328 01:05:24,792 --> 01:05:27,989 what they were composing, or did they? - You 329 01:05:28,167 --> 01:05:31,535 mustn't sit down and ... It wouldn't work. 330 01:05:31,750 --> 01:05:36,574 I think it has never worked in art that an artist said, 331 01:05:36,792 --> 01:05:39,910 I'll create something of international standing. 332 01:05:40,125 --> 01:05:41,741 For such a stroke of genius 333 01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:46,415 it takes something else, that the composer can't be planning for. 334 01:05:47,083 --> 01:05:52,829 It can come from above, from the side-lines or even from history. 335 01:05:53,042 --> 01:05:55,409 I think it's nice and appropriate 336 01:05:55,625 --> 01:06:00,165 that in the arts this kind of success can't be planned. 337 01:06:00,875 --> 01:06:03,367 Or else you'd have the formula for gold. 338 01:06:04,792 --> 01:06:07,625 I read the lyrics carefully. It's even about 339 01:06:07,833 --> 01:06:10,791 the song of a lark. 340 01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:12,411 You'd never think of it. 341 01:06:12,625 --> 01:06:14,115 At the end of the day 342 01:06:14,333 --> 01:06:16,995 this is the world of the football mob. 343 01:06:17,333 --> 01:06:21,247 And all the fans sing about a singing lark. 344 01:06:21,417 --> 01:06:25,240 It'd never occur to you to compose anything like this. 345 01:08:57,583 --> 01:08:59,165 You'd be the perfect link 346 01:08:59,375 --> 01:09:03,243 between the musical which we know from America, 347 01:09:03,417 --> 01:09:06,489 Carousel, the origin of "You'll never walk alone�. 348 01:09:06,667 --> 01:09:09,125 You sing "You'll never walk alone". 349 01:09:09,333 --> 01:09:13,622 A problem with musicals is the popcorn eating audience. 350 01:09:13,833 --> 01:09:17,246 Take the Queen Rock Musical. They sit there 351 01:09:17,417 --> 01:09:21,035 and this is the tentative version. 352 01:09:21,250 --> 01:09:24,823 That's why I joined a rock band to avoid this happening. 353 01:09:25,042 --> 01:09:29,366 A beer can may be flying, you may soil your clothes. 354 01:09:29,583 --> 01:09:31,244 There's pushing and shoving. 355 01:09:31,500 --> 01:09:35,573 Musicals are consumed sitting down. So that's not my scene. 356 01:10:04,417 --> 01:10:08,081 For many years "You'll never walk alone" is our last song. 357 01:10:08,292 --> 01:10:10,875 The fans know that this is it. 358 01:10:11,333 --> 01:10:13,540 And every time we play it, 359 01:10:13,750 --> 01:10:15,912 I quietly doff my cap 360 01:10:16,125 --> 01:10:20,244 to Liverpool, to Anfield Road. I play it for myself. 361 01:10:20,750 --> 01:10:25,745 I'm grateful that the band has stuck with it for so long. 362 01:10:26,792 --> 01:10:28,533 Grumpy but tolerating it 363 01:10:28,750 --> 01:10:33,824 until it has been accepted by our fans and is part of the ritual now. 364 01:10:34,042 --> 01:10:38,661 I appreciate that the song transcends football 365 01:10:38,875 --> 01:10:44,416 and that the song means something to everybody. 366 01:10:44,625 --> 01:10:46,241 It's philosophical. - Right. 367 01:10:46,500 --> 01:10:52,246 And therefore the Liverpool fans can accept it graciously 368 01:10:52,500 --> 01:10:54,662 that it's sung in Dortmund. 369 01:10:54,875 --> 01:10:58,413 I think there's anyway a special connection with Dortmund. 370 01:10:58,625 --> 01:11:01,083 They've known each other for many years. 371 01:11:01,292 --> 01:11:06,583 Both regions have experienced a lot of hardship. And poverty. 372 01:11:06,792 --> 01:11:09,159 Life used to be better there. 373 01:11:09,375 --> 01:11:12,868 The Ruhr area used to be well off and prosperous. 374 01:11:13,542 --> 01:11:18,491 And the experience of an entire industry dying and people 375 01:11:18,667 --> 01:11:21,375 losing their jobs also happened in Liverpool. 376 01:11:21,583 --> 01:11:23,494 It was a wealthy port city. 377 01:11:23,750 --> 01:11:27,072 At some point the harbour lost its importance. 378 01:11:27,292 --> 01:11:31,286 The important trade routes passed Liverpool by. 379 01:11:31,500 --> 01:11:34,663 To deal with this mass unemployment, 380 01:11:34,875 --> 01:11:37,867 this deprivation, shapes these cities, 381 01:11:38,083 --> 01:11:41,576 these regions. It's the same for Glasgow, for Liverpool. 382 01:11:41,792 --> 01:11:45,831 And for the Ruhr area. That creates this vibe 383 01:11:46,042 --> 01:11:49,990 and I think people in those areas were forced 384 01:11:50,167 --> 01:11:54,081 to make their lives fun, despite their sad realities. 385 01:11:54,292 --> 01:11:58,115 So they have a very different kind of solidarity between them. 386 01:11:58,333 --> 01:11:59,994 That's why they make jokes. 387 01:12:00,250 --> 01:12:03,663 Every cab driver here jokes. They make their lives fun. 388 01:12:36,375 --> 01:12:39,242 A song can grow with the experiences 389 01:12:39,417 --> 01:12:42,125 of a club. Especially when they are defeated. 390 01:12:42,333 --> 01:12:45,997 And a football history can't just be positive all the time. 391 01:12:46,250 --> 01:12:48,241 A club only becomes a proper club 392 01:12:48,417 --> 01:12:51,409 after having lived through bitter disappointments 393 01:12:51,625 --> 01:12:54,037 and having been through hell and back. 394 01:12:54,250 --> 01:12:57,413 You don't refer to the semi finals against Dortmund? 395 01:12:57,625 --> 01:13:02,244 No, that was just a sports event. It was a crazy match. 396 01:13:02,500 --> 01:13:06,744 We love this song in Dortmund but everyone who was there said, 397 01:13:06,917 --> 01:13:12,117 to hear it here and especially after this match was a difficult test. 398 01:13:27,250 --> 01:13:28,615 I don't want to compare, 399 01:13:28,833 --> 01:13:32,371 out of respect for my other club. But nothing could compare 400 01:13:32,583 --> 01:13:33,994 to the last half hour. 401 01:13:34,167 --> 01:13:37,535 I felt that we were unstoppable after a certain moment. 402 01:13:37,750 --> 01:13:41,744 I didn't know we'd score a fourth goal but we turned the match. 403 01:13:41,917 --> 01:13:45,035 You can play 3-3, the match was relatively good 404 01:13:45,250 --> 01:13:48,823 and Dortmund deserved to move on. The fourth goal 405 01:13:49,042 --> 01:13:51,830 was a stroke of luck. But how the match evolved 406 01:13:52,042 --> 01:13:55,785 due to this atmosphere is 100 percent true. 407 01:14:17,250 --> 01:14:21,869 A joint wake-up call is when you remember, 408 01:14:22,083 --> 01:14:24,666 "Right, even if they lag behind at 31, 409 01:14:24,875 --> 01:14:28,243 we're the ones who'll never walk alone. So let's go." 410 01:14:28,500 --> 01:14:30,867 It's a message, easily understood. 411 01:14:31,083 --> 01:14:35,407 And properly sung and experienced it makes all the difference. 412 01:14:35,750 --> 01:14:39,823 Is Klopp a working class hero? - He's definitely a Liverpool hero. 413 01:14:40,042 --> 01:14:45,333 He strikes the right chord and used the right quotes from the start. 414 01:14:45,875 --> 01:14:50,290 Mourinho in London, the special one. And then he arrives and just says, 415 01:14:50,500 --> 01:14:53,162 "I'm the normal one." And that's it. 416 01:14:53,500 --> 01:14:54,831 That someone would say, 417 01:14:55,042 --> 01:14:58,114 "Jos� Mourinho is the special one, so who are you?" 418 01:14:58,333 --> 01:14:59,494 I didn't expect that 419 01:14:59,750 --> 01:15:03,539 and was totally unprepared for it. It was a happy coincidence, 420 01:15:03,750 --> 01:15:07,664 like so many in my life so far which have helped me. 421 01:15:07,875 --> 01:15:10,663 I think I immediately earned my salary 422 01:15:10,875 --> 01:15:14,539 because the jersey "The Normal One" sold like sliced bread. 423 01:15:14,750 --> 01:15:19,244 It still sells well and so I did the club a big favour. 424 01:15:19,417 --> 01:15:23,331 He's a clever guy and quickly got the vibe of the city. 425 01:15:23,542 --> 01:15:25,658 He can laugh about himself. 426 01:15:25,875 --> 01:15:27,411 That's a requirement. 427 01:15:27,625 --> 01:15:33,371 Also his clear statement against "The Sun", whatever his reasons. 428 01:15:33,583 --> 01:15:38,123 Here in Liverpool they've boycotted this newspaper for 20 years. 429 01:15:38,333 --> 01:15:41,780 Nobody reads it. It's not sold here. You can't get it here. 430 01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:47,120 If you arrive at Liverpool airport with it, you'd better throw it away. 431 01:16:19,042 --> 01:16:22,785 Just imagine a place in Germany where for 25 years 432 01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:26,118 you couldn't buy the "Bild" newspaper. Impossible. 433 01:16:26,333 --> 01:16:28,620 But here they really see it through. 434 01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:08,992 Two years ago at Christmas "The Sun� tried nationwide 435 01:17:09,167 --> 01:17:12,000 to deliver a free edition to all households. 436 01:17:12,250 --> 01:17:13,832 As an advertising campaign. 437 01:17:14,042 --> 01:17:17,285 The postmen in Liverpool refused to distribute it. 438 01:17:17,500 --> 01:17:21,619 It was hotly debated whether they should be sacked. 439 01:17:21,833 --> 01:17:23,824 It worked out alright. 440 01:17:24,042 --> 01:17:27,990 Even the postman wouldn't put "The Sun� through the letterboxes. 441 01:17:28,250 --> 01:17:29,740 That's unique. 442 01:17:29,917 --> 01:17:33,114 If a disaster happens all people tend to be shocked. 443 01:17:33,333 --> 01:17:37,156 Especially if it happened in our town or we know the people. 444 01:17:37,375 --> 01:17:40,493 You're momentarily involved but you forget quickly. 445 01:17:40,750 --> 01:17:42,787 It was completely different here. 446 01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:46,413 For 25 years it wasn't forgotten. But not by saying, 447 01:17:46,625 --> 01:17:51,495 "You all have to mourn."� It was about judging the whole affair properly. 448 01:22:54,375 --> 01:22:59,074 Normally two, three years later you say, "Forget it. 449 01:22:59,292 --> 01:23:01,124 We know it's not as the police 450 01:23:01,333 --> 01:23:04,405 and the newspaper described it but we let go.� 451 01:23:04,625 --> 01:23:06,332 But they didn't let go. 452 01:23:06,542 --> 01:23:08,124 And it's not that I expect 453 01:23:08,333 --> 01:23:11,405 that these matters are always dealt with like this. 454 01:23:11,625 --> 01:23:15,744 Because it's not possible. But here it was because of the people. 455 01:23:15,917 --> 01:23:17,874 It's not just about their own pain 456 01:23:18,083 --> 01:23:21,075 but it's about the other person who also matters. 457 01:23:21,292 --> 01:23:25,536 It's a very serious story and it brought people together. 458 01:23:25,750 --> 01:23:29,823 When justice was finally dispensed it was a big day 459 01:23:30,042 --> 01:23:32,909 for the city of Liverpool and the Everton fans. 460 01:23:33,125 --> 01:23:36,493 Also for the people of Everton. Truth had to be spoken 461 01:23:36,667 --> 01:23:40,581 and if there is to be justice you have to fight for it. 462 01:23:40,792 --> 01:23:43,250 They did it very nicely by not caving in. 463 01:23:43,500 --> 01:23:47,824 If someone said, "Let go" they said, "No. We want the memory of those 464 01:23:48,042 --> 01:23:50,033 who were and are important to us 465 01:23:50,250 --> 01:23:54,118 to be seen in the right light and not as it was described then." 466 01:23:54,333 --> 01:23:56,244 This says a lot about this city. 467 01:24:54,167 --> 01:24:55,328 There he is. 468 01:24:58,292 --> 01:25:02,581 We let him run here for a while and then he'll come back home again. 469 01:25:04,833 --> 01:25:07,996 To me this is a church as for you probably 470 01:25:08,167 --> 01:25:09,999 the stadium in Dortmund. 471 01:25:10,167 --> 01:25:12,158 This is my congregation. 472 01:25:12,375 --> 01:25:17,040 And therefore "You'll never walk alone" is always a good moment. 473 01:27:01,583 --> 01:27:04,291 I'm from Skye in the North West of Scotland. 474 01:27:04,500 --> 01:27:07,083 The fourth most famous island in the world. 475 01:27:07,292 --> 01:27:11,490 I'm from Boness on the east coast. I've been living here for 35 years 476 01:27:11,667 --> 01:27:14,864 and have two season tickets for the south stand. 477 01:27:17,750 --> 01:27:19,115 I'm from Herne. 478 01:27:38,375 --> 01:27:40,161 Great. Enjoy. 479 01:27:40,750 --> 01:27:43,492 So ... - The best sausage in Dortmund. 480 01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:52,243 What did you pay for the appearance? 481 01:27:53,083 --> 01:27:53,993 Nothing. 482 01:27:57,750 --> 01:28:02,244 You know the match day ritual. Are you on the south stand? 483 01:28:02,417 --> 01:28:04,158 Always on the south stand but 484 01:28:04,375 --> 01:28:06,582 normally I'm very busy on match day. 485 01:28:06,792 --> 01:28:08,999 Usually I go to the block only 486 01:28:09,167 --> 01:28:12,125 when they play "You'll never walk alone" and then it's only 487 01:28:12,333 --> 01:28:13,323 black and yellow. 488 01:28:13,542 --> 01:28:15,078 "You'll never walk alone" 489 01:28:15,292 --> 01:28:17,329 calls you to your seat. - It calls me 490 01:28:17,542 --> 01:28:20,284 but in fact I think it's a pity that the song 491 01:28:20,500 --> 01:28:24,323 has such a prominence, because it's a universal football song. 492 01:28:24,542 --> 01:28:26,783 On match day I'm in black-yellow mode 493 01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:31,119 and don't need anything universal or to honour football philosophy, 494 01:28:31,333 --> 01:28:34,246 I just want black-yellow to win, never mind how. 495 01:28:34,417 --> 01:28:39,537 To me this song is very much linked to Liverpool FC. - That's what's special 496 01:28:39,750 --> 01:28:43,744 about the song. It doesn't denigrate the opponent. 497 01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:47,163 Exactly, and that's why I don't want it on match day. 498 01:28:47,375 --> 01:28:50,743 On match day I'm in the mode and that's we against them. 499 01:28:50,917 --> 01:28:53,249 The others are bad, I want to win. 500 01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:01,240 My little ritual is 501 01:29:01,417 --> 01:29:05,536 I go in before "You'll never walk alone� since I want to hear it. 502 01:29:05,750 --> 01:29:08,412 But this is the case for many people. 503 01:29:08,625 --> 01:29:11,162 They say that when they hear this song 504 01:29:11,375 --> 01:29:15,494 now it's high time to get into the stadium. 505 01:29:15,667 --> 01:29:19,080 For some matches which require more concentration time 506 01:29:19,292 --> 01:29:21,033 I give myself more time. 507 01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:24,913 Nobby, this sausage is ... 508 01:29:25,125 --> 01:29:27,162 I love it too. - I can only confirm 509 01:29:27,375 --> 01:29:29,036 what this young man said. 510 01:29:34,833 --> 01:29:38,246 I prefer the same routes, for years I've been meeting 511 01:29:38,417 --> 01:29:39,999 the same people. 512 01:29:40,167 --> 01:29:42,329 When we won I put the same trousers on. 513 01:29:43,250 --> 01:29:45,082 I've been doing this for years. 514 01:29:45,292 --> 01:29:48,990 I think you have to be a little superstitious in football. 515 01:29:49,250 --> 01:29:50,160 It's nice. 516 01:29:50,917 --> 01:29:53,124 Before the last match I drank 9 beers. 517 01:29:53,333 --> 01:29:55,995 Today I have to do it again because we won. 518 01:29:56,167 --> 01:29:57,328 Because we won, yes. 519 01:29:59,625 --> 01:30:03,994 Is this the last big ritual in our society where you meet 520 01:30:04,250 --> 01:30:06,537 in a gigantic stadium here in Dortmund, 521 01:30:06,750 --> 01:30:08,832 singing together, walking almost 522 01:30:09,042 --> 01:30:12,910 in a procession from the north of Dortmund to the south? 523 01:30:13,333 --> 01:30:14,539 I'm a fan of the BVB 524 01:30:14,750 --> 01:30:17,117 and a season ticket holder for 25 years. 525 01:30:17,333 --> 01:30:19,290 And I find it fascinating 526 01:30:19,500 --> 01:30:21,912 that there are these rituals. 527 01:30:22,125 --> 01:30:24,992 The procession to the stadium, which is a church term. 528 01:30:25,167 --> 01:30:28,000 Sometimes I'd wish my church could do the same. 529 01:30:28,250 --> 01:30:30,742 To approach people in a way 530 01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:33,742 that they understand our rituals because in football 531 01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:34,910 we understand them. 532 01:30:35,125 --> 01:30:40,666 Here in Dortmund, Norbert Dickel calls out the player's first name 533 01:30:40,875 --> 01:30:43,663 and the 80,000 fans then call out his surname. 534 01:30:43,875 --> 01:30:45,661 It's also a kind of anthem, 535 01:30:45,875 --> 01:30:48,242 not dissimilar to a holy litany. 536 01:30:48,500 --> 01:30:50,491 Number 38: Roman. - B�rki! 537 01:30:50,667 --> 01:30:52,499 Number 6: Sven. 538 01:30:52,750 --> 01:30:54,036 Bender. 539 01:30:54,250 --> 01:30:55,331 Number 11: Marco. 540 01:30:55,542 --> 01:30:56,748 Reus. 541 01:30:56,917 --> 01:31:01,332 Can I only light a candle for something or also against something? 542 01:31:02,750 --> 01:31:03,660 If anything for. 543 01:31:03,875 --> 01:31:08,824 We don't light candles for a victory but for fairness or peace. 544 01:31:09,042 --> 01:31:13,331 For a football match to be a sign of dialogue between people. 545 01:31:13,542 --> 01:31:15,749 But I'm thinking about the points too. 546 01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:17,365 You're allowed to. 547 01:32:21,333 --> 01:32:23,040 In 1996, 548 01:32:23,250 --> 01:32:25,992 Matthias Kartner from Pur Harmony, 549 01:32:26,167 --> 01:32:28,408 a Dortmund band, came to me 550 01:32:28,625 --> 01:32:30,241 and he said, 551 01:32:30,417 --> 01:32:34,115 "I've recorded a song which would be good for our stadium." 552 01:32:34,333 --> 01:32:36,244 So I listened to it. 553 01:32:37,375 --> 01:32:38,661 My personal opinion is 554 01:32:38,875 --> 01:32:42,573 that it was more appropriate for a stadium than the original 555 01:32:42,792 --> 01:32:45,750 because it had more basses and more rhythm. 556 01:32:56,833 --> 01:32:58,824 At the beginning of 1996 557 01:32:59,042 --> 01:33:02,580 we were approached by a fan club. 558 01:33:04,333 --> 01:33:06,665 They said, a proper anthem, 559 01:33:06,875 --> 01:33:09,082 something nice and solemn 560 01:33:09,292 --> 01:33:12,580 would be a fine thing and if we could write something. 561 01:33:12,792 --> 01:33:14,624 I asked what they had in mind. 562 01:33:14,833 --> 01:33:19,373 In Liverpool they've got something. "You'll never walk alone". 563 01:33:19,583 --> 01:33:20,744 We have arranged it, 564 01:33:20,917 --> 01:33:25,286 completely rearranged it, added a few more modern sounds. 565 01:33:25,500 --> 01:33:30,165 I then sang it in one go. 566 01:33:30,375 --> 01:33:34,744 A male voice "when you walk" and made it happen. 567 01:33:34,917 --> 01:33:38,615 We invited all the fan clubs we knew to our rehearsal room. 568 01:33:38,833 --> 01:33:42,997 We put 15 beer crates there and then they belted it out. 569 01:33:43,250 --> 01:33:45,617 We recorded it several times 570 01:33:45,833 --> 01:33:48,871 so that the sound got richer and richer. 571 01:33:57,750 --> 01:34:00,287 It's 20 years now, for 20 years 572 01:34:00,500 --> 01:34:02,662 the whole stadium sings it. 573 01:34:02,875 --> 01:34:06,618 It grew bigger and bigger and more people sing along. 574 01:34:06,833 --> 01:34:09,416 This is very special and I'm proud about it. 575 01:34:09,625 --> 01:34:11,115 What is it all about? 576 01:34:11,333 --> 01:34:15,327 I think it's the only song 577 01:34:15,542 --> 01:34:21,163 which unites all football fans in the world and creates solidarity. 578 01:34:21,375 --> 01:34:24,493 Everybody can sing this song. 579 01:34:24,667 --> 01:34:28,740 An anthem very much glues together. Even the national anthems do. 580 01:34:28,917 --> 01:34:32,535 I like it when the national players sing it with fervour. 581 01:34:32,750 --> 01:34:35,913 And there is this anthem which is repeated but never boring 582 01:34:36,125 --> 01:34:37,536 because it's up-to-date. 583 01:34:37,750 --> 01:34:40,333 And it connects people in this very moment. 584 01:34:40,542 --> 01:34:45,491 Everyone thinks the same and if you think for only 5 minutes a day 585 01:34:45,667 --> 01:34:51,117 "You'll never walk alone" it feels like you're properly charged up. 586 01:34:51,333 --> 01:34:55,122 If you'll never walk alone I'll also never walk alone. 587 01:34:58,042 --> 01:35:01,990 The song was very significant when we played against Mainz 588 01:35:02,250 --> 01:35:04,867 and a BVB fan died during the match. 589 01:35:05,083 --> 01:35:09,498 It was a very crazy atmosphere. 590 01:35:09,667 --> 01:35:11,578 It was deadly silent and we wondered 591 01:35:11,792 --> 01:35:14,250 why have they stopped singing? 592 01:35:14,500 --> 01:35:16,992 Why have they stopped supporting the team? 593 01:35:18,042 --> 01:35:19,032 Early on 594 01:35:19,250 --> 01:35:22,743 I had noticed that 2 people needed resuscitation. 595 01:35:22,917 --> 01:35:25,989 And I knew that a man had died. 596 01:35:26,167 --> 01:35:27,077 The news spread. 597 01:35:27,292 --> 01:35:32,583 We have WLAN at the stadium and so it spread like wildfire. 598 01:35:32,792 --> 01:35:36,990 Within 15 minutes, everybody in the stadium knew 599 01:35:37,167 --> 01:35:39,659 a man has died, one of us. 600 01:35:39,875 --> 01:35:44,995 And it is fitting to say that there was dead silence in the stadium. 601 01:35:45,250 --> 01:35:49,494 And at some point they started to sing "You'll never walk alone" 602 01:35:49,667 --> 01:35:53,740 and this was of course the highlight 603 01:35:53,917 --> 01:35:55,749 of this sad day. 604 01:36:24,333 --> 01:36:27,906 When the team came ... The team didn't know what had happened. 605 01:36:28,125 --> 01:36:32,369 All BVB fans raised their scarves and sang "You'll never walk alone"". 606 01:36:32,583 --> 01:36:35,245 That was a moment which gave you goosebumps. 607 01:36:35,500 --> 01:36:39,744 It'll definitely become part of the Borussia Dortmund fan history. 608 01:37:09,500 --> 01:37:12,242 The lyrics are strange for a football anthem, 609 01:37:12,417 --> 01:37:15,830 aren't they? - That's right. Nevertheless ... 610 01:37:17,333 --> 01:37:19,244 it's the football anthem. 611 01:37:20,625 --> 01:37:23,788 It's got nothing to do with football. - Who cares? 612 01:37:25,542 --> 01:37:27,249 Does it matter in the end? 613 01:37:43,167 --> 01:37:46,159 In 2017 the fans of Liverpool FC and Borussia Dortmund were awarded the FIFA Fan Award 614 01:37:46,375 --> 01:37:49,367 for their community singing at the Europa League match on 14th of April 2016: 50129

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