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Here in England
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no other club would sing this song.
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Now there is this anthem,
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a message, easily understood,
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which unites people.
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Here. Mahalia Jackson.
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Carousel.
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Where are the singles?
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Where are they?
- The 45s are on your left.
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Right in front of you.
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Hey! What an entry.
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Welcome to Vienna.
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Nice that it worked out.
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You're a devil, you are ...
- Keep away from her!
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Liliom, I'll get Hollinger
to give you such a beating
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that you'll hear the angels sing.
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It wouldn't be the first time.
- Get out of here, you're discharged.
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But Mr. Liliom ...
- Shut up!
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Are you sorry for him?
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Are you?
- Yes, a little.
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Why are you looking at him
in that funny way?
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Nothing. Except I'm sorry
he lost his job.
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It was because of us.
Because he's
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fallen in love with you.
- He hasn't.
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Oh, yes, he is in love with you.
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Ferenc Molnar was
the greatest author of his era
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and I think he wrote more
than 60 plays.
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They weren't just slapped out.
He was celebrated.
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Everybody knew him,
a superstar.
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"Liliom" is a cultural asset,
like "Faust"� for the Germans.
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Liliom belongs here
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and you must love it
and Liliom ...
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is theirs.
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But Liliom is a cruel figure,
not at all likeable.
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But he's not from here,
he comes from Budapest.
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In the first 8 minutes everyone
loses their job. - Right.
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Two servant girls sit in the Prater.
One of them, Julie,
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meets Liliom, he gets fired,
she gets fired.
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He starts beating her up
during her pregnancy.
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This subject is not very nice.
At that time, I was told,
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Ferenc Molnar beat up
his women quite badly.
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Writing about it was
a kind of absolution for him.
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That's how the play ends.
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"Someone may beat you
and not hurt you at all."
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That's how it ends
and you think "whoa".
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I almost said the BVB
is older than the song.
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But we've learned a short while ago
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that Liliom was written in 1909
by Ferenc Molnar.
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This can't be a coincidence.
BVB 09, 1909 - a magic circle.
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Come in.
- Hello, Jan.
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Hi, Joachim.
Welcome on the hallowed ground.
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Let me enter slowly.
I've never been here before.
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History surrounds you.
- Yes, a historical venue.
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Probably one of the most historical
venues in Northrhine-Westphalia
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or the German football world.
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Where am I?
- This is
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the hall of mirrors.
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In this room, on this ground,
Franz Jacobi and 17 of his friends
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founded the BVB over a 100 years ago.
Here in this room.
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And I've got the honour to live here,
which is cool. - It's yours?
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This is my realm, it's mine.
Well ...
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Whoa, it gives me goosebumps.
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And it's
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the original floor,
those thick timber floor boards.
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I won't kneel down like Karol Woytila
and kiss the floor
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but the thought crossed my mind.
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Fantastic.
- This was the hall of mirrors.
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It was the big ball room
of the restaurant "Zum Wildsch�tz"
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which was located
on the ground floor.
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This was the room for events
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like weddings.
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Here's where they got together
on 19 December 1909
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and decided to set up
a football club.
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That'd be a good idea.
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It was the young men's association
of the congregation
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who had problems with
the chaplain of the
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Holy Trinity church
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and they set up the club
because they wanted to play football.
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At the time this was frowned upon
in the German Reich.
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Gymnastics was what you did.
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Unlike the English
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who played football,
chaplain Hubert Dewald
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went along with the view of doctors
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and teachers in secondary schools
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who called it "football oafishness"
or "island monkey sport".
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He dreamt up
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quite a lot of tricks to lead
the young Catholics back
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to a virtuous life.
It was said
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that he had the goal posts
on the White Field sawn off.
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It was him then!
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The boys met here and said,
we must leave the church.
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We need our own football club.
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Then they noticed that
they didn't have a name.
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So then Franz Jacobi said,
"Borussia Dortmund� sounds great.
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His father worked in Dortmund
in the Borussia brewery.
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So they decided
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to call the club Borussia Dortmund.
I think it wasn't a bad idea.
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"Borussia" is Latin for Prussia.
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But it had nothing to do
with the fatherland.
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The boys took the name
after the brewery.
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I like that.
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In Dortmund it was named after
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the beer. It had nothing to do
with patriotism. - Great.
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Chaplain Dewald
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tried to intervene
and storm this room.
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Franz Jacobi pushed him
down the stairs.
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The one I just climbed up?
- The very one you climbed up.
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Chaplain Dewald
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fell down backwards.
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Franz Jacobi once said,
"I didn't hit him.
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The chaplain ran into my fist.�
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Who said, "He mustn't run
where I do a sliding tackle"?
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It was Neven Subotic.
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Subotic said it.
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The church chronicle says,
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"From that moment
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the football fever
infected the boys."
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At that time, the BVB only
happened at Borsigplatz.
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All 18 founders lived within
5 minutes walking distance.
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Before the BVB was forcefully
resettled by the Nazis
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to the "Rote Erde" stadium
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because this was known as
the red Borsigplatz.
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The Nazis never got a foot
in Borsigplatz.
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The White Field was razed
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and the BVB was forced to resettle
in the supposedly rich south
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and to the Rote Erde stadium.
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I have a pack of cards in my pocket.
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It doesn't hurt.
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That's me as Julie.
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Ferenc Molnar
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sat here every day
and watched the rehearsals.
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He knew how the actors had to play
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and how the audience would react.
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His story started here.
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Here he learned about the theatre.
In this venue.
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It's one of the most extraordinary
plays of Molnar
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where humour
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and the strength of drama
have an equal place.
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And male characteristics are shown
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which create an antagonism in a man.
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Liliom wants to spend his life
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with the servant girl
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and with Mrs. Muskat
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he wants to live his devilish,
sexual, erotic desires
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which men fantasise about.
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And we forgive Liliom because
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he's aware of it and doesn't deny it.
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Can there be such a traditional
perception that people ignore this?
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His abuse of women?
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That they prefer to see the rascal
who is forgiven everything?
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Yes, of course, exactly.
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But I think the play
is widely misunderstood.
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The performance tradition
was different.
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Josef Meinrad,
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Hans Albers were great
and wonderful actors.
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So was Paul H�rbiger,
popular and likeable
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and who was completely miscast
in this character.
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But they played him like this,
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with a little cheeky, winking eye.
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It was always
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brushed aside that it's about a man
who beats his pregnant wife
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and then he comes back after 16 years
in a rose-tinted purgatory.
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A lovely idea to be sitting in a
rose-tinted purgatory, isn't it?
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He comes back after 16 years
and the first thing he does
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is to give his child, his daughter
a good beating. I mean ...
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Please, Miss. I must do something
very nice and fine for myself.
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Get out!
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Please, Miss.
- Now!
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I think it's the Prater or yer,
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or the carousel pusher.
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The desire for the romanticism
of this fair
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is a big part of it.
The wife-beating
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is easily forgotten when you think
of this play, do you get me?
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It was transposed to Vienna
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and it became such a success
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because it played in the Prater.
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Just look at the films of the 50s.
What did we Germans do?
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Or we Austrians? In the 50s?
How quickly did we forget
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and people happily sang
about white lilac
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while frolicking across the Prater.
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Can you live in this spirit
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without following the rituals?
- No,
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originally the rituals
aren't important in Judaism.
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There are no rituals in the Bible,
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ho synagogues.
My grandfather never went
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into a temple.
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Also today there are Jewish authors,
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lots of them,
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and very good comedy writers.
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It was always the advantage
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of being Jewish
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that we have a sense of humour.
Even in the Bible there is ...
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Humour is important for the oppressed.
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Mahalia Jackson.
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I'm curious.
I've never listened to it.
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Let's get back
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to the death scene.
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What's her last sentence again?
Isn't is something about sleep?
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"Sleep, my Liliom, sleep.�
Exactly.
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"Julie, my girl, I'm leaving,"
he says.
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He gets up again and says, "Julie,
my girl, look, there's Liliom".
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That's nice. "Look, there's Liliom".
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"Sleep, my Liliom."
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At that point I left
for my next performance.
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That's all I ever heard.
- I mention it
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because it's written on his tombstone.
- Molnar's?
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We visited his grave in New York.
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It's quite a simple tombstone
with his name.
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The dates.
And written at the bottom this quote.
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That's crazy.
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SLEEP PEACEFULLY NOW, LILIOM ...
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You came here with
a sense of belonging
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and I understood this very early on
when I came here with my father.
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You were Westfalia Herne.
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You came here as often as possible,
met your friends.
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Becoming more independent creates
a spatial distance from the club
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but the communication
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with my father about what was
happening here
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was the permanent umbilical cord
to the club, to the town.
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So today is
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a very emotional day for me.
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At the time my father worked
three shifts below ground.
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That's not how we hope to live
with our children, that you ...
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spend as much time
as possible together.
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During the week
he simply wasn't there.
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From early childhood this ritual,
the walk to the stadium,
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was our time together.
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When it became more and more important
to discuss things -
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long hair, puberty, failure at school
and all these issues -
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these few hours of just the two of us
were brilliant for this.
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When I was so small the sport itself
wasn't really important.
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Spending time with my father
was important.
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We stood over there, on the left
behind the goal.
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By the wavebreakers.
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Probably the second in the centre.
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The Rote Erde stadium was built
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and in the 30s Schalke played
in this stadium.
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The BVB came much later.
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The BVB was always a local club
from Borsigplatz. - I see.
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Can you remember your first visits
at the stadium?
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Very well, indeed.
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I think I was 6 years old at the time
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and the A team played against
the Romanian national team.
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My father wanted to show me the best
player ever, Marcel Raducanu.
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That's why I went to the stadium
for the very first time with my father.
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A few months later he fled Romania
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and became a player
for Borussia Dortmund.
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I was once asked if
for a certain period of time I'd like
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to enter the skin of another man.
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I said, I'd love to spend a few years
as Keith Richard
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and 11 seconds as Lars Ricken.
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Molter. Ricken.
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Ricken. Now chip.
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Yes!!!
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Five seconds on the field,
five seconds.
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Lars Ricken.
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Mostly the fans tell me their story.
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One was on the toilet,
another fetched a beer.
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One tells me off
for having aimed for the goal.
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Three seconds later they were all
heaped on him and were happy.
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There is a story from Friedensplatz:
I shoot the goal,
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a man and a woman who don't know
each other, embrace in celebration,
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they get to know and love each other,
marry, have a child
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and the child is called Lars.
So ... Therefore ...
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Was there a club anthem at the time?
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The first song that could be defined
as a club anthem is by Heinrich Unger,
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one of the founders. At the front
in France he rewrote the soldier song
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"Argonnerwald um Mitternacht" for his
football club. We know the line
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"But one thing remains
Borussia Dortmund always prevails".
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This song is sung today
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on many stands but the original
is from Dortmund.
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From one of the founders who during
the war thought about his club
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and wrote the first anthem for his
football club, Borussia Dortmund.
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It is still part
of the official club anthem,
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"We stand together, firm and loyal".
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Yes, cellos, come in.
Come in.
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Thomas, I remember we first met
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in Dortmund at the last match
of J�rgen Klopp as their coach.
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We're in front of this box
and to our left
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a choir of 27,000 sings
"You'll never walk alone�.
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How did you like this choir?
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It was fantastic.
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It's almost the original version
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and we have many football fans
in our choir and orchestra.
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00:57:57,167 --> 00:58:00,660
They're not all fans
of Borussia Dortmund.
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00:58:00,875 --> 00:58:03,993
I have to admit there are fans
of Bayern Munich too.
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00:58:04,250 --> 00:58:08,494
But there are fans of Barcelona,
Madrid, Arsenal London, Liverpool.
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00:58:08,667 --> 00:58:10,249
The whole lot.
- St. Pauli?
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00:58:10,417 --> 00:58:11,373
And St. Pauli.
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00:58:11,583 --> 00:58:16,498
As you know, our ensemble is made up
of musicians from 25 countries.
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Some of them really sang it
in the stand.
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So we said, let's do it all of us
and here.
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Let's do it just ...
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A little higher. From the start.
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The one big ritual which is understood
worldwide is football.
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And the other ritual
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00:58:48,500 --> 00:58:50,286
understood worldwide is music.
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Music doesn't need lyrics
or comprehensible words.
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00:58:57,292 --> 00:59:00,990
I notice this as a conductor
when I work in Asia
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00:59:01,167 --> 00:59:04,034
or in Africa or Latin America.
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00:59:04,500 --> 00:59:08,664
When I worked there people don't speak
German or English.
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00:59:08,875 --> 00:59:11,492
Quite often they don't.
But music
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00:59:11,667 --> 00:59:13,658
makes us find a common language.
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00:59:13,875 --> 00:59:18,290
That's where music and football
have a lot in common.
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00:59:18,833 --> 00:59:20,073
We had the pleasure
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00:59:20,292 --> 00:59:23,580
to play against Liverpool
in the Europa League.
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00:59:23,875 --> 00:59:28,324
And when we played in Dortmund,
all the fans
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00:59:28,542 --> 00:59:30,579
sang the song.
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Those from Dortmund.
Then the Liverpudlians.
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00:59:34,375 --> 00:59:39,541
You could notice ... these were
two different cups of tea.
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00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,868
The Liverpool fans sang
with much more verve.
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00:59:44,083 --> 00:59:49,783
It was almost like defiance, as if
you had to keep making a point.
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00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:53,038
Of course the English fans
sing it so much better.
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00:59:53,250 --> 00:59:57,164
They are much more sure of it.
They know the lyrics, the notes.
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00:59:57,375 --> 01:00:02,290
It has to do with a very different
sing-along tradition in England.
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01:00:08,375 --> 01:00:12,619
It's remarkable that in England
they sing entire long songs.
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01:00:12,833 --> 01:00:14,995
Not like fan songs in Germany.
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01:00:15,250 --> 01:00:21,371
When I was young a fan song consisted
of "Referee, telephone�.
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01:00:21,583 --> 01:00:23,039
You could memorise this.
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01:00:23,250 --> 01:00:26,413
A German fan couldn't memorise
much more than this.
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01:00:26,625 --> 01:00:32,120
It's great that in England they sing
a song from beginning to end.
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01:00:32,333 --> 01:00:35,576
The people know the lyrics,
they understand them.
323
01:04:58,167 --> 01:04:59,498
That was a nice version.
324
01:04:59,667 --> 01:05:02,500
We'll do this as an encore
instead of Haydn.
325
01:05:15,750 --> 01:05:19,072
It was a stroke of genius
by Rodgers and Hammerstein.
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01:05:19,583 --> 01:05:20,618
No doubt about it.
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01:05:20,833 --> 01:05:24,576
Although they probably never gave it
a moment's thought
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01:05:24,792 --> 01:05:27,989
what they were composing, or did they?
- You
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01:05:28,167 --> 01:05:31,535
mustn't sit down and ...
It wouldn't work.
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01:05:31,750 --> 01:05:36,574
I think it has never worked in art
that an artist said,
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01:05:36,792 --> 01:05:39,910
I'll create something of
international standing.
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01:05:40,125 --> 01:05:41,741
For such a stroke of genius
333
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:46,415
it takes something else, that the
composer can't be planning for.
334
01:05:47,083 --> 01:05:52,829
It can come from above, from the
side-lines or even from history.
335
01:05:53,042 --> 01:05:55,409
I think it's nice and appropriate
336
01:05:55,625 --> 01:06:00,165
that in the arts this kind of success
can't be planned.
337
01:06:00,875 --> 01:06:03,367
Or else you'd have the formula
for gold.
338
01:06:04,792 --> 01:06:07,625
I read the lyrics carefully.
It's even about
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01:06:07,833 --> 01:06:10,791
the song of a lark.
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01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:12,411
You'd never think of it.
341
01:06:12,625 --> 01:06:14,115
At the end of the day
342
01:06:14,333 --> 01:06:16,995
this is the world of the football mob.
343
01:06:17,333 --> 01:06:21,247
And all the fans sing about
a singing lark.
344
01:06:21,417 --> 01:06:25,240
It'd never occur to you to compose
anything like this.
345
01:08:57,583 --> 01:08:59,165
You'd be the perfect link
346
01:08:59,375 --> 01:09:03,243
between the musical which we know
from America,
347
01:09:03,417 --> 01:09:06,489
Carousel, the origin of
"You'll never walk alone�.
348
01:09:06,667 --> 01:09:09,125
You sing "You'll never walk alone".
349
01:09:09,333 --> 01:09:13,622
A problem with musicals
is the popcorn eating audience.
350
01:09:13,833 --> 01:09:17,246
Take the Queen Rock Musical.
They sit there
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01:09:17,417 --> 01:09:21,035
and this is the tentative version.
352
01:09:21,250 --> 01:09:24,823
That's why I joined a rock band
to avoid this happening.
353
01:09:25,042 --> 01:09:29,366
A beer can may be flying,
you may soil your clothes.
354
01:09:29,583 --> 01:09:31,244
There's pushing and shoving.
355
01:09:31,500 --> 01:09:35,573
Musicals are consumed sitting down.
So that's not my scene.
356
01:10:04,417 --> 01:10:08,081
For many years "You'll never walk
alone" is our last song.
357
01:10:08,292 --> 01:10:10,875
The fans know that this is it.
358
01:10:11,333 --> 01:10:13,540
And every time we play it,
359
01:10:13,750 --> 01:10:15,912
I quietly doff my cap
360
01:10:16,125 --> 01:10:20,244
to Liverpool, to Anfield Road.
I play it for myself.
361
01:10:20,750 --> 01:10:25,745
I'm grateful that the band
has stuck with it for so long.
362
01:10:26,792 --> 01:10:28,533
Grumpy but tolerating it
363
01:10:28,750 --> 01:10:33,824
until it has been accepted by our fans
and is part of the ritual now.
364
01:10:34,042 --> 01:10:38,661
I appreciate that the song
transcends football
365
01:10:38,875 --> 01:10:44,416
and that the song means something
to everybody.
366
01:10:44,625 --> 01:10:46,241
It's philosophical.
- Right.
367
01:10:46,500 --> 01:10:52,246
And therefore the Liverpool fans
can accept it graciously
368
01:10:52,500 --> 01:10:54,662
that it's sung in Dortmund.
369
01:10:54,875 --> 01:10:58,413
I think there's anyway a special
connection with Dortmund.
370
01:10:58,625 --> 01:11:01,083
They've known each other
for many years.
371
01:11:01,292 --> 01:11:06,583
Both regions have experienced
a lot of hardship. And poverty.
372
01:11:06,792 --> 01:11:09,159
Life used to be better there.
373
01:11:09,375 --> 01:11:12,868
The Ruhr area used to be well off
and prosperous.
374
01:11:13,542 --> 01:11:18,491
And the experience of an entire
industry dying and people
375
01:11:18,667 --> 01:11:21,375
losing their jobs also happened
in Liverpool.
376
01:11:21,583 --> 01:11:23,494
It was a wealthy port city.
377
01:11:23,750 --> 01:11:27,072
At some point the harbour
lost its importance.
378
01:11:27,292 --> 01:11:31,286
The important trade routes
passed Liverpool by.
379
01:11:31,500 --> 01:11:34,663
To deal with this mass unemployment,
380
01:11:34,875 --> 01:11:37,867
this deprivation,
shapes these cities,
381
01:11:38,083 --> 01:11:41,576
these regions. It's the same
for Glasgow, for Liverpool.
382
01:11:41,792 --> 01:11:45,831
And for the Ruhr area.
That creates this vibe
383
01:11:46,042 --> 01:11:49,990
and I think people in those areas
were forced
384
01:11:50,167 --> 01:11:54,081
to make their lives fun,
despite their sad realities.
385
01:11:54,292 --> 01:11:58,115
So they have a very different kind
of solidarity between them.
386
01:11:58,333 --> 01:11:59,994
That's why they make jokes.
387
01:12:00,250 --> 01:12:03,663
Every cab driver here jokes.
They make their lives fun.
388
01:12:36,375 --> 01:12:39,242
A song can grow with the experiences
389
01:12:39,417 --> 01:12:42,125
of a club. Especially when
they are defeated.
390
01:12:42,333 --> 01:12:45,997
And a football history can't just be
positive all the time.
391
01:12:46,250 --> 01:12:48,241
A club only becomes a proper club
392
01:12:48,417 --> 01:12:51,409
after having lived through
bitter disappointments
393
01:12:51,625 --> 01:12:54,037
and having been through hell and back.
394
01:12:54,250 --> 01:12:57,413
You don't refer to the semi finals
against Dortmund?
395
01:12:57,625 --> 01:13:02,244
No, that was just a sports event.
It was a crazy match.
396
01:13:02,500 --> 01:13:06,744
We love this song in Dortmund
but everyone who was there said,
397
01:13:06,917 --> 01:13:12,117
to hear it here and especially after
this match was a difficult test.
398
01:13:27,250 --> 01:13:28,615
I don't want to compare,
399
01:13:28,833 --> 01:13:32,371
out of respect for my other club.
But nothing could compare
400
01:13:32,583 --> 01:13:33,994
to the last half hour.
401
01:13:34,167 --> 01:13:37,535
I felt that we were unstoppable
after a certain moment.
402
01:13:37,750 --> 01:13:41,744
I didn't know we'd score a fourth goal
but we turned the match.
403
01:13:41,917 --> 01:13:45,035
You can play 3-3,
the match was relatively good
404
01:13:45,250 --> 01:13:48,823
and Dortmund deserved to move on.
The fourth goal
405
01:13:49,042 --> 01:13:51,830
was a stroke of luck.
But how the match evolved
406
01:13:52,042 --> 01:13:55,785
due to this atmosphere
is 100 percent true.
407
01:14:17,250 --> 01:14:21,869
A joint wake-up call is
when you remember,
408
01:14:22,083 --> 01:14:24,666
"Right, even if they lag behind
at 31,
409
01:14:24,875 --> 01:14:28,243
we're the ones who'll never walk
alone. So let's go."
410
01:14:28,500 --> 01:14:30,867
It's a message, easily understood.
411
01:14:31,083 --> 01:14:35,407
And properly sung and experienced
it makes all the difference.
412
01:14:35,750 --> 01:14:39,823
Is Klopp a working class hero?
- He's definitely a Liverpool hero.
413
01:14:40,042 --> 01:14:45,333
He strikes the right chord and used
the right quotes from the start.
414
01:14:45,875 --> 01:14:50,290
Mourinho in London, the special one.
And then he arrives and just says,
415
01:14:50,500 --> 01:14:53,162
"I'm the normal one." And that's it.
416
01:14:53,500 --> 01:14:54,831
That someone would say,
417
01:14:55,042 --> 01:14:58,114
"Jos� Mourinho is the special one,
so who are you?"
418
01:14:58,333 --> 01:14:59,494
I didn't expect that
419
01:14:59,750 --> 01:15:03,539
and was totally unprepared for it.
It was a happy coincidence,
420
01:15:03,750 --> 01:15:07,664
like so many in my life so far
which have helped me.
421
01:15:07,875 --> 01:15:10,663
I think I immediately earned my salary
422
01:15:10,875 --> 01:15:14,539
because the jersey "The Normal One"
sold like sliced bread.
423
01:15:14,750 --> 01:15:19,244
It still sells well and so I did
the club a big favour.
424
01:15:19,417 --> 01:15:23,331
He's a clever guy
and quickly got the vibe of the city.
425
01:15:23,542 --> 01:15:25,658
He can laugh about himself.
426
01:15:25,875 --> 01:15:27,411
That's a requirement.
427
01:15:27,625 --> 01:15:33,371
Also his clear statement against
"The Sun", whatever his reasons.
428
01:15:33,583 --> 01:15:38,123
Here in Liverpool they've boycotted
this newspaper for 20 years.
429
01:15:38,333 --> 01:15:41,780
Nobody reads it. It's not sold here.
You can't get it here.
430
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:47,120
If you arrive at Liverpool airport
with it, you'd better throw it away.
431
01:16:19,042 --> 01:16:22,785
Just imagine a place in Germany
where for 25 years
432
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:26,118
you couldn't buy the "Bild" newspaper.
Impossible.
433
01:16:26,333 --> 01:16:28,620
But here they really see it through.
434
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:08,992
Two years ago at Christmas
"The Sun� tried nationwide
435
01:17:09,167 --> 01:17:12,000
to deliver a free edition
to all households.
436
01:17:12,250 --> 01:17:13,832
As an advertising campaign.
437
01:17:14,042 --> 01:17:17,285
The postmen in Liverpool
refused to distribute it.
438
01:17:17,500 --> 01:17:21,619
It was hotly debated whether
they should be sacked.
439
01:17:21,833 --> 01:17:23,824
It worked out alright.
440
01:17:24,042 --> 01:17:27,990
Even the postman wouldn't put
"The Sun� through the letterboxes.
441
01:17:28,250 --> 01:17:29,740
That's unique.
442
01:17:29,917 --> 01:17:33,114
If a disaster happens all people
tend to be shocked.
443
01:17:33,333 --> 01:17:37,156
Especially if it happened in our town
or we know the people.
444
01:17:37,375 --> 01:17:40,493
You're momentarily involved
but you forget quickly.
445
01:17:40,750 --> 01:17:42,787
It was completely different here.
446
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:46,413
For 25 years it wasn't forgotten.
But not by saying,
447
01:17:46,625 --> 01:17:51,495
"You all have to mourn."� It was about
judging the whole affair properly.
448
01:22:54,375 --> 01:22:59,074
Normally two, three years later
you say, "Forget it.
449
01:22:59,292 --> 01:23:01,124
We know it's not as the police
450
01:23:01,333 --> 01:23:04,405
and the newspaper described it
but we let go.�
451
01:23:04,625 --> 01:23:06,332
But they didn't let go.
452
01:23:06,542 --> 01:23:08,124
And it's not that I expect
453
01:23:08,333 --> 01:23:11,405
that these matters are always
dealt with like this.
454
01:23:11,625 --> 01:23:15,744
Because it's not possible. But here
it was because of the people.
455
01:23:15,917 --> 01:23:17,874
It's not just about their own pain
456
01:23:18,083 --> 01:23:21,075
but it's about the other person
who also matters.
457
01:23:21,292 --> 01:23:25,536
It's a very serious story
and it brought people together.
458
01:23:25,750 --> 01:23:29,823
When justice was finally dispensed
it was a big day
459
01:23:30,042 --> 01:23:32,909
for the city of Liverpool
and the Everton fans.
460
01:23:33,125 --> 01:23:36,493
Also for the people of Everton.
Truth had to be spoken
461
01:23:36,667 --> 01:23:40,581
and if there is to be justice
you have to fight for it.
462
01:23:40,792 --> 01:23:43,250
They did it very nicely
by not caving in.
463
01:23:43,500 --> 01:23:47,824
If someone said, "Let go" they said,
"No. We want the memory of those
464
01:23:48,042 --> 01:23:50,033
who were and are important to us
465
01:23:50,250 --> 01:23:54,118
to be seen in the right light and
not as it was described then."
466
01:23:54,333 --> 01:23:56,244
This says a lot about this city.
467
01:24:54,167 --> 01:24:55,328
There he is.
468
01:24:58,292 --> 01:25:02,581
We let him run here for a while
and then he'll come back home again.
469
01:25:04,833 --> 01:25:07,996
To me this is a church
as for you probably
470
01:25:08,167 --> 01:25:09,999
the stadium in Dortmund.
471
01:25:10,167 --> 01:25:12,158
This is my congregation.
472
01:25:12,375 --> 01:25:17,040
And therefore "You'll never walk alone"
is always a good moment.
473
01:27:01,583 --> 01:27:04,291
I'm from Skye in the North West
of Scotland.
474
01:27:04,500 --> 01:27:07,083
The fourth most famous island
in the world.
475
01:27:07,292 --> 01:27:11,490
I'm from Boness on the east coast.
I've been living here for 35 years
476
01:27:11,667 --> 01:27:14,864
and have two season tickets
for the south stand.
477
01:27:17,750 --> 01:27:19,115
I'm from Herne.
478
01:27:38,375 --> 01:27:40,161
Great. Enjoy.
479
01:27:40,750 --> 01:27:43,492
So ...
- The best sausage in Dortmund.
480
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:52,243
What did you pay for the appearance?
481
01:27:53,083 --> 01:27:53,993
Nothing.
482
01:27:57,750 --> 01:28:02,244
You know the match day ritual.
Are you on the south stand?
483
01:28:02,417 --> 01:28:04,158
Always on the south stand but
484
01:28:04,375 --> 01:28:06,582
normally I'm very busy on match day.
485
01:28:06,792 --> 01:28:08,999
Usually I go to the block only
486
01:28:09,167 --> 01:28:12,125
when they play "You'll never walk alone"
and then it's only
487
01:28:12,333 --> 01:28:13,323
black and yellow.
488
01:28:13,542 --> 01:28:15,078
"You'll never walk alone"
489
01:28:15,292 --> 01:28:17,329
calls you to your seat.
- It calls me
490
01:28:17,542 --> 01:28:20,284
but in fact I think it's a pity
that the song
491
01:28:20,500 --> 01:28:24,323
has such a prominence,
because it's a universal football song.
492
01:28:24,542 --> 01:28:26,783
On match day
I'm in black-yellow mode
493
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:31,119
and don't need anything universal
or to honour football philosophy,
494
01:28:31,333 --> 01:28:34,246
I just want black-yellow to win,
never mind how.
495
01:28:34,417 --> 01:28:39,537
To me this song is very much linked to
Liverpool FC. - That's what's special
496
01:28:39,750 --> 01:28:43,744
about the song.
It doesn't denigrate the opponent.
497
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:47,163
Exactly, and that's why I
don't want it on match day.
498
01:28:47,375 --> 01:28:50,743
On match day I'm in the mode
and that's we against them.
499
01:28:50,917 --> 01:28:53,249
The others are bad, I want to win.
500
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:01,240
My little ritual is
501
01:29:01,417 --> 01:29:05,536
I go in before "You'll never walk alone�
since I want to hear it.
502
01:29:05,750 --> 01:29:08,412
But this is the case for many people.
503
01:29:08,625 --> 01:29:11,162
They say that
when they hear this song
504
01:29:11,375 --> 01:29:15,494
now it's high time
to get into the stadium.
505
01:29:15,667 --> 01:29:19,080
For some matches which require
more concentration time
506
01:29:19,292 --> 01:29:21,033
I give myself more time.
507
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:24,913
Nobby, this sausage is ...
508
01:29:25,125 --> 01:29:27,162
I love it too.
- I can only confirm
509
01:29:27,375 --> 01:29:29,036
what this young man said.
510
01:29:34,833 --> 01:29:38,246
I prefer the same routes,
for years I've been meeting
511
01:29:38,417 --> 01:29:39,999
the same people.
512
01:29:40,167 --> 01:29:42,329
When we won
I put the same trousers on.
513
01:29:43,250 --> 01:29:45,082
I've been doing this for years.
514
01:29:45,292 --> 01:29:48,990
I think you have to be a little
superstitious in football.
515
01:29:49,250 --> 01:29:50,160
It's nice.
516
01:29:50,917 --> 01:29:53,124
Before the last match
I drank 9 beers.
517
01:29:53,333 --> 01:29:55,995
Today I have to do it again
because we won.
518
01:29:56,167 --> 01:29:57,328
Because we won, yes.
519
01:29:59,625 --> 01:30:03,994
Is this the last big ritual
in our society where you meet
520
01:30:04,250 --> 01:30:06,537
in a gigantic stadium
here in Dortmund,
521
01:30:06,750 --> 01:30:08,832
singing together, walking almost
522
01:30:09,042 --> 01:30:12,910
in a procession from the north
of Dortmund to the south?
523
01:30:13,333 --> 01:30:14,539
I'm a fan of the BVB
524
01:30:14,750 --> 01:30:17,117
and a season ticket holder
for 25 years.
525
01:30:17,333 --> 01:30:19,290
And I find it fascinating
526
01:30:19,500 --> 01:30:21,912
that there are these rituals.
527
01:30:22,125 --> 01:30:24,992
The procession to the stadium,
which is a church term.
528
01:30:25,167 --> 01:30:28,000
Sometimes I'd wish my church
could do the same.
529
01:30:28,250 --> 01:30:30,742
To approach people in a way
530
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:33,742
that they understand our rituals
because in football
531
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:34,910
we understand them.
532
01:30:35,125 --> 01:30:40,666
Here in Dortmund, Norbert Dickel
calls out the player's first name
533
01:30:40,875 --> 01:30:43,663
and the 80,000 fans
then call out his surname.
534
01:30:43,875 --> 01:30:45,661
It's also a kind of anthem,
535
01:30:45,875 --> 01:30:48,242
not dissimilar to a holy litany.
536
01:30:48,500 --> 01:30:50,491
Number 38: Roman.
- B�rki!
537
01:30:50,667 --> 01:30:52,499
Number 6: Sven.
538
01:30:52,750 --> 01:30:54,036
Bender.
539
01:30:54,250 --> 01:30:55,331
Number 11: Marco.
540
01:30:55,542 --> 01:30:56,748
Reus.
541
01:30:56,917 --> 01:31:01,332
Can I only light a candle for
something or also against something?
542
01:31:02,750 --> 01:31:03,660
If anything for.
543
01:31:03,875 --> 01:31:08,824
We don't light candles for a victory
but for fairness or peace.
544
01:31:09,042 --> 01:31:13,331
For a football match to be a sign
of dialogue between people.
545
01:31:13,542 --> 01:31:15,749
But I'm thinking about
the points too.
546
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:17,365
You're allowed to.
547
01:32:21,333 --> 01:32:23,040
In 1996,
548
01:32:23,250 --> 01:32:25,992
Matthias Kartner from Pur Harmony,
549
01:32:26,167 --> 01:32:28,408
a Dortmund band,
came to me
550
01:32:28,625 --> 01:32:30,241
and he said,
551
01:32:30,417 --> 01:32:34,115
"I've recorded a song which would
be good for our stadium."
552
01:32:34,333 --> 01:32:36,244
So I listened to it.
553
01:32:37,375 --> 01:32:38,661
My personal opinion is
554
01:32:38,875 --> 01:32:42,573
that it was more appropriate
for a stadium than the original
555
01:32:42,792 --> 01:32:45,750
because it had more basses
and more rhythm.
556
01:32:56,833 --> 01:32:58,824
At the beginning of 1996
557
01:32:59,042 --> 01:33:02,580
we were approached by a fan club.
558
01:33:04,333 --> 01:33:06,665
They said, a proper anthem,
559
01:33:06,875 --> 01:33:09,082
something nice and solemn
560
01:33:09,292 --> 01:33:12,580
would be a fine thing and
if we could write something.
561
01:33:12,792 --> 01:33:14,624
I asked what they had in mind.
562
01:33:14,833 --> 01:33:19,373
In Liverpool they've got something.
"You'll never walk alone".
563
01:33:19,583 --> 01:33:20,744
We have arranged it,
564
01:33:20,917 --> 01:33:25,286
completely rearranged it,
added a few more modern sounds.
565
01:33:25,500 --> 01:33:30,165
I then sang it in one go.
566
01:33:30,375 --> 01:33:34,744
A male voice "when you walk"
and made it happen.
567
01:33:34,917 --> 01:33:38,615
We invited all the fan clubs we knew
to our rehearsal room.
568
01:33:38,833 --> 01:33:42,997
We put 15 beer crates there
and then they belted it out.
569
01:33:43,250 --> 01:33:45,617
We recorded it several times
570
01:33:45,833 --> 01:33:48,871
so that the sound
got richer and richer.
571
01:33:57,750 --> 01:34:00,287
It's 20 years now, for 20 years
572
01:34:00,500 --> 01:34:02,662
the whole stadium sings it.
573
01:34:02,875 --> 01:34:06,618
It grew bigger and bigger
and more people sing along.
574
01:34:06,833 --> 01:34:09,416
This is very special
and I'm proud about it.
575
01:34:09,625 --> 01:34:11,115
What is it all about?
576
01:34:11,333 --> 01:34:15,327
I think it's the only song
577
01:34:15,542 --> 01:34:21,163
which unites all football fans in
the world and creates solidarity.
578
01:34:21,375 --> 01:34:24,493
Everybody can sing this song.
579
01:34:24,667 --> 01:34:28,740
An anthem very much glues together.
Even the national anthems do.
580
01:34:28,917 --> 01:34:32,535
I like it when the national players
sing it with fervour.
581
01:34:32,750 --> 01:34:35,913
And there is this anthem which
is repeated but never boring
582
01:34:36,125 --> 01:34:37,536
because it's up-to-date.
583
01:34:37,750 --> 01:34:40,333
And it connects people
in this very moment.
584
01:34:40,542 --> 01:34:45,491
Everyone thinks the same
and if you think for only 5 minutes a day
585
01:34:45,667 --> 01:34:51,117
"You'll never walk alone" it feels
like you're properly charged up.
586
01:34:51,333 --> 01:34:55,122
If you'll never walk alone
I'll also never walk alone.
587
01:34:58,042 --> 01:35:01,990
The song was very significant
when we played against Mainz
588
01:35:02,250 --> 01:35:04,867
and a BVB fan died during the match.
589
01:35:05,083 --> 01:35:09,498
It was a very crazy atmosphere.
590
01:35:09,667 --> 01:35:11,578
It was deadly silent and we wondered
591
01:35:11,792 --> 01:35:14,250
why have they stopped singing?
592
01:35:14,500 --> 01:35:16,992
Why have they stopped
supporting the team?
593
01:35:18,042 --> 01:35:19,032
Early on
594
01:35:19,250 --> 01:35:22,743
I had noticed that 2 people
needed resuscitation.
595
01:35:22,917 --> 01:35:25,989
And I knew that a man had died.
596
01:35:26,167 --> 01:35:27,077
The news spread.
597
01:35:27,292 --> 01:35:32,583
We have WLAN at the stadium
and so it spread like wildfire.
598
01:35:32,792 --> 01:35:36,990
Within 15 minutes,
everybody in the stadium knew
599
01:35:37,167 --> 01:35:39,659
a man has died, one of us.
600
01:35:39,875 --> 01:35:44,995
And it is fitting to say that there
was dead silence in the stadium.
601
01:35:45,250 --> 01:35:49,494
And at some point they started
to sing "You'll never walk alone"
602
01:35:49,667 --> 01:35:53,740
and this was of course the highlight
603
01:35:53,917 --> 01:35:55,749
of this sad day.
604
01:36:24,333 --> 01:36:27,906
When the team came ... The team
didn't know what had happened.
605
01:36:28,125 --> 01:36:32,369
All BVB fans raised their scarves
and sang "You'll never walk alone"".
606
01:36:32,583 --> 01:36:35,245
That was a moment
which gave you goosebumps.
607
01:36:35,500 --> 01:36:39,744
It'll definitely become part of the
Borussia Dortmund fan history.
608
01:37:09,500 --> 01:37:12,242
The lyrics are strange
for a football anthem,
609
01:37:12,417 --> 01:37:15,830
aren't they?
- That's right. Nevertheless ...
610
01:37:17,333 --> 01:37:19,244
it's the football anthem.
611
01:37:20,625 --> 01:37:23,788
It's got nothing to do with football.
- Who cares?
612
01:37:25,542 --> 01:37:27,249
Does it matter in the end?
613
01:37:43,167 --> 01:37:46,159
In 2017 the fans of Liverpool FC and
Borussia Dortmund were awarded the FIFA Fan Award
614
01:37:46,375 --> 01:37:49,367
for their community singing at the
Europa League match on 14th of April 2016:
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