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(VIBRANT, JAUNTY MUSIC)
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(CAR HORN BLASTS)
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I realised I was being the boss
to Opal
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that Peter couldn't be to me.
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ROBERT: Oh, right. So, instead
of anger, you leant into...
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Love!
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No. Compassion.
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I let Opal flearn.
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Which is an original portmanteau
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that combines 'failing'
and 'learning'.
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(LAUGHS) It's very clever.
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Mm, thank you.
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Oh, I'm going to miss you.
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Miss me?
Why? Where are you going?
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That's what I'm getting to.
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I'm... I'm good, Robert.
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I'm feeling good.
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I'm making good decisions.
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I feel heard and understood
and I'm not reacting anymore.
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What's the feeling you have
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when you think of staying
in therapy?
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Shame.
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Shame.
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Why do you feel shame when you
think of staying in therapy?
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Because therapy
feels like failure.
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Why can't I just
lean into success?
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Because success isn't a feeling.
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Oh, yes, it is.
(TYRES SKID)
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Sorry, Robert, I've really
loved our time together,
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getting to know you,
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you getting to know me.
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(TYRES SKID)
I'd like us to continue,
Evelyn.
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We've done some solid work. We
were only just getting started.
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I've just...
I've made up my mind, Robert.
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Thank you.
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Alright, then.
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Be well, Evelyn.
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You almost hit our dog.
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Did I? What?
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Oh, I'm sorry,
I didn't see it there.
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Funny little whippet thing.
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He's an Italian greyhound.
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Right, well, you're dining
at a major intersection,
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al fresco, so...
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(CHORAL SINGING)
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16!
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Oh, my darling.
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How did that happen?
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You had sex and you kept it.
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An iPad?
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Finally! Thanks, Mum.
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My pleasure, darling.
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I didn't think
socialists did gifts.
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This one does.
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Hello, family.
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JON: Hello.
ADDY: Hi, Mum.
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(PHONE RINGS)
So, you excited about tomorrow?
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What's tomorrow, again?
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The election. I'm picking you up
at 9am to vote.
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On a Saturday?
Yes.
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And we'll all be
putting a big tick
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next to Elizabeth Myles's name.
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Sorry, but her immigration
policy's all over the place.
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I find her very diffuse.
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I mean,
the thinness of the voice,
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the flatness of the tush.
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No, you can't say
she's got a flat bum, Mum.
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Why not? It's true.
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She's too static.
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She's not a walker.
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It's regressive to make fun
of a woman's appearance,
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especially
when it has no bearing
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on how well she does her job.
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So I could criticise a stripper.
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Mum, you didn't let me
shave my legs in high school
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and now you're Joan Rivers?
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Joan!
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Now, there's a good costume
for dress up day.
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Now, there's a good costume
for dress up day.
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Mm.
C... costume?
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Year 7 are dressing up as Women
Under The Influence on Monday.
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Women OF Influence, Dad.
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That's what I said.
In honour of Elizabeth?
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Well, it is
a non-partisan celebration,
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but I guess so, yeah.
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Christ, if she loses...
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She won't.
(PHONE RINGS)
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Let's think of someone
a bit more modern
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and progressive
than Joan Rivers.
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How about Sheryl Sandberg?
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The leaner?
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The rich Facebook lady?
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Yeah, the one who told women
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it was their fault
they weren't promoted.
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Actually, I've been invited
on Discourse Monday night.
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Ah!
Carmen Stewart will be there.
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Oh, she's a marvellous woman.
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She was leaning in before
any of you were standing.
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Yeah. Then she leaned in so much
she basically fell on her face.
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Which I really respect.
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Sounds like it.
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Do you want to come
to the studio?
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Meet some real women
of influence?
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JON: Could be fun, Addy.
(CHUCKLES WITH GLEE)
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Look what my friend
just sent me.
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It looks traumatised.
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That's Storm, Penny's kid,
and he's not traumatised.
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That's just his face.
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That's just his face.
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But I'm glad someone
likes the article enough
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to share it with you, Mum.
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No, I doubt Jenny read it.
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She votes for the other team.
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Getting back
to the birthday boy,
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I hear Alex
is having a couple of friends
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over to your place
tomorrow night.
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Yes.
Sounds fun.
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Don't trash the apartment.
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Of course he won't.
Dame Edna.
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Oh, Mum.
Joke.
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(LAUGHS)
What?
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What's that?
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What's that publication?
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No, it's not a publication,
it's a meme.
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Oh.
What's a meme?
I don't know.
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Pretty funny.
(PHONE RINGS)
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They got the flat bum right.
Yeah.
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JEET: It was meant to be
the classic politician
kissing babe shot.
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CHRISTINE: It doesn't help
that she looks demonic.
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I was going for realism.
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I thought I was capturing
a sweet maternal moment.
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Hey, team.
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Hi.
Hey.
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Hi.
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Why are you ignoring my calls?
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Oh, I'm not on call 24/7.
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I'm trying to set
some new boundaries
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and find some balance
in my life.
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Boundaries?
Stop housing the intern.
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And balance? Great.
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But you did just tell
the whole country
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that Elizabeth Myles
thinks there's no such thing.
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that Elizabeth Myles
thinks there's no such thing.
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You loved my article yesterday.
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Yeah, before you published it
with that stupid feature image.
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Oh, come on.
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It's just
a few right-wing pundits
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saying
Elizabeth barbecues children.
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Who fucking cares?
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People are spending an average
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of 12 seconds on the article
before sharing it.
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Elizabeth's team
want it taken down.
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Have they read
the whole article?
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Yes, and they're worried.
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Can we swap out the image?
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It's not just the image.
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They think the headline
is misleading.
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They also...
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I mean, you took a throwaway
line and you made it the story.
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Are we not in the business
of seeking attention?
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I knew people would click
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and I chose that comment
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because it resonates
as a mother.
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Ah, there's already
so much content
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generated off the original
that removing the context,
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it'll be much worse.
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And the post-election prep?
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I've done the vox pop video,
but it still needs music,
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so I was thinking
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Katy Perry Firework,
or perhaps Single Ladies.
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Not Single Ladies.
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I've got the career time line,
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early childhood on the sheep
farm, her love of ducks.
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High school, uni,
years in China...
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High school, uni,
years in China...
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That was Terry Blaine.
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They want you on his show today.
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Really?
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Did they sound friendly?
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For a bunch of raging sexists.
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This is exactly
what I need to do.
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No.
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I said no.
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They're not our audience.
What's the point?
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I need to explain myself
to these exact people!
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What, men who eat steak
for breakfast?
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They're the ones not reading
the whole article.
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They're just sharing it
and sending out memes
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and sabotaging Elizabeth.
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Yes, because they're the enemy!
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No, they're not!
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They're just... they're regular
folks who don't like change.
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I understand them.
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What do you have in common
with Terry Blaine's audience?
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Fear.
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I understand fear, Christine.
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Trust me, I know how to speak
to these people.
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I'm going to take Norma.
Of course you will.
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Call Terry now, say thank you
for the invitation.
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I'm on my way.
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(COMMOTION)
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This tea doesn't just help
blood circulation,
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it increases stamina.
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You know what I mean?
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You know what I mean?
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Oh, gross!
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Well, we've got to have
some empathy for these guys.
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I mean, the world's
suddenly changing on them
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and they're terrified.
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If they think a stimulating
tea will help...
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It's $65 a box.
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Well, that'd get the blood
pumping.
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OK, Evelyn. He's ready for you.
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Head on in.
Oh!
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In the studio today,
we have Evelyn Jones,
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mummy blogger extraordinaire
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who's not afraid to dish
the dirt on Elizabeth Myles,
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or as we call her here,
Big Hands.
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Thanks for having me, Terry.
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I mean, we knew Big Hands
was weird, but not satanic.
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The woman hates children.
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You know, Terry,
you and I are similar.
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We're not afraid to tackle
the difficult issues.
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Or speak our minds.
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Oh, guilty as charged.
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But often we're misunderstood.
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Or our words are twisted, right?
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In this case, people didn't even
read my article.
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They just made assumptions.
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I read it.
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Right. Well, good.
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Then you'll know that Elizabeth
doesn't hate children.
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Then you'll know that Elizabeth
doesn't hate children.
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She just thinks
that politics is a boys' club
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and it's impossible
to infiltrate as a woman,
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let alone...
Sounds like a big whinge to me.
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All our male PMs had children.
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Sure. But domestic labour
is unbalanced, Terry.
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Mothers are still too busy
doing the ironing
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to put their hands up
for high office.
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Mothers
don't put their hands up,
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says Evelyn Jones from Eve Life.
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What do our listeners
think about that?
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Yeah. No, Terry, I wasn't
saying that, but that's fine.
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I'm happy
to talk to your listeners.
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Now, our first caller,
Carl from Botany.
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G'day, Terry.
Question for Evelyn.
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How do you think Elizabeth
Myles can run a country
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when she doesn't care about
families?
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Carl, Elizabeth
doesn't hate families.
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In fact, she and Marcus
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are actually
in a de facto partnership.
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And what have you got to say,
Frank from Bankstown?
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I want to thank you
for stopping that vile woman,
Elizabeth,
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from becoming Prime Minister.
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Look, guys, I get it.
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It's scary
when change is on the horizon.
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Trust me.
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Ha. I'm still drinking milk
from a cow.
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And we've got Barry
from Morriset.
261
00:08:57,960 --> 00:08:59,320
Why are you and Myles
so hellbent
262
00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:00,000
on ruining this country?
263
00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:00,760
on ruining this country?
264
00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:02,480
What do either of you
actually stand for
265
00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,800
besides wearing pantsuits
and moaning about men?
266
00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:06,440
This country needs change.
267
00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,400
And right now, that change
happens to look like
268
00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,760
a childless woman
with big hands.
269
00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:13,680
OK, Jayden from Homebush.
270
00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,240
I think what you need
is a bit of tender loving
to help you calm down.
271
00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,000
Next up, Max from Blacktown.
272
00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:24,160
(CACOPHONY OF VOICES)
273
00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,800
And it's Dale from Rouse Hill.
274
00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,320
I'm wondering if Ms Myles
wishes she was a man.
275
00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,000
Sure, Dale. Plenty of things
would be easier with a penis.
276
00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:33,560
Oh, yeah? Like what?
277
00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,400
Breastfeeding would probably
be easier with a penis.
278
00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,800
Well, there you go, folks.
279
00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,000
Breastfeeding with a penis.
280
00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:44,720
That gender stuff was radical.
281
00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,960
Radical? I was just trying
to relate to them.
282
00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,240
Well, relating's good.
283
00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,240
I think that tea was poisoned.
284
00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,120
I'm getting an erection.
285
00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:07,480
Isn't this beautiful?
286
00:10:07,560 --> 00:10:09,960
Everyone gathered together,
hungover, with their sausages,
287
00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:11,920
making their voices heard.
288
00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,960
Dad said voting's compulsory.
289
00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,360
Yeah, well,
it's still beautiful.
290
00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,560
Even if it is a whole lot of
people gathered to avoid a fine.
291
00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,800
You know, it's not compulsory
to vote in America.
292
00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:24,360
They don't really even bother.
293
00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,360
Yeah, but forcing people to vote
294
00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,560
doesn't seem that democratic.
295
00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,240
Ha! Good point.
296
00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,320
Just there. Thank you.
Thank you.
297
00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:33,720
Hello.
298
00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:35,720
Evelyn Jones.
299
00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:37,880
26 Edward...
300
00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:39,280
No.
301
00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,080
City of Sydney?
Yes.
302
00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,040
I did just move recently
303
00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,680
and... and I... I forgot
to update my electorate.
304
00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:47,520
I'll just do it here.
305
00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,200
Deadline was three weeks ago.
306
00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,800
Fill this in
and get back in the line.
307
00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,680
Oh, that... That sounds like
a bit of a drag.
308
00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,000
Really?
309
00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:00,000
Anything
for a functional democracy.
310
00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,640
Anything
for a functional democracy.
311
00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,160
I see why no-one
wants to vote in America.
312
00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,760
Yeah, well,
it's not usually like this.
313
00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,120
It's because that man
made us queue for another hour.
314
00:11:13,680 --> 00:11:15,080
Oh, great.
315
00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,360
(CHUCKLES) All done.
316
00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,040
Do I need the green one?
317
00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:24,600
Thanks.
318
00:11:24,680 --> 00:11:26,640
What's the difference between
the Social Democrat Party
319
00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,840
and the Nationalist
Social Democrat Party?
320
00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,480
What? Uh, one's nationalist?
321
00:11:32,560 --> 00:11:34,800
Why is there a pro-cigar party?
322
00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:36,120
Communists.
323
00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,600
Just try and find one
with the word 'environment'.
324
00:11:38,680 --> 00:11:41,040
No, I can't see
Elizabeth's name anywhere.
325
00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,800
Well, keep looking,
it'll be there somewhere.
326
00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,040
Oh!
327
00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,040
She's in our old electorate.
328
00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,000
So you have to put a tick
next to somebody else's name?
329
00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:54,760
Oh!
330
00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:56,000
Well, just pick one.
331
00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,000
Go and get me another sausage.
332
00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:00,000
ALEX: Please, Mum.
333
00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,000
ALEX: Please, Mum.
334
00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,240
ALEX'S FRIEND:
My mum lets me drink beer
all the time, Evelyn.
335
00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:04,640
Really? Is that true?
336
00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,000
Call her
if you don't believe me.
337
00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,120
But I won't be here.
338
00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:15,840
Norma?
339
00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:17,720
Yeah, I could hang around.
340
00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:20,840
Alright,
but don't make me regret this.
341
00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:22,760
Can you get them some beers?
(BOYS LAUGH)
342
00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,120
Don't pop the balloons
and don't use my bathroom.
343
00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,560
And, um, we're actually more
interested in popping cherries,
344
00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,640
if you know what I mean.
345
00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,520
Don't ever say that again, Oli,
with or without air quotes.
346
00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,640
Virginities are not cherries
to be popped.
347
00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,320
They're not trophies
and sex is not a sport.
348
00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:40,280
He's just joking, OK?
349
00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:41,840
I love you.
Yeah.
350
00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:43,760
Thank you for the beer.
You've been very nice.
351
00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,480
You boys need to understand that
girls are complex individuals.
352
00:12:46,560 --> 00:12:49,480
They have thoughts
and feelings...
353
00:12:49,560 --> 00:12:51,720
They're not things
to tick off your list.
354
00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:52,880
All good, Evelyn.
355
00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:54,640
I'm down.
356
00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,000
Alright, well I'm going to
the pub to watch the election.
357
00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,000
And I could be back any time.
358
00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:00,880
And I could be back any time.
359
00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:07,960
Yes!
360
00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:12,240
(TV SPORTS AND NEWS COMMENTARY,
GENERAL CHATTER)
361
00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,160
And how is she doing?
362
00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:20,200
Sluggish start.
363
00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,920
But... no need for alarm yet.
364
00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:25,800
You're optimistic.
365
00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,600
It's one bad photo.
366
00:13:27,680 --> 00:13:30,080
And a long interview
that people refused to read.
367
00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,080
Stop saying that. They read it.
368
00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,160
Fine.
369
00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:35,800
The backlash
was mostly conservatives
370
00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,240
who weren't going to vote
for her anyway, so...
371
00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,480
Sorry, guys.
No dogs in the venue.
372
00:13:44,560 --> 00:13:46,800
Fuck this country.
373
00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:49,880
I'm moving to New Zealand.
374
00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:51,400
I'll text you later.
375
00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,440
MAN: (ON TV) Eight seats
in the Northern Rivers
376
00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,480
is also a huge win for Talbot.
377
00:13:55,560 --> 00:13:57,640
We can't write off Myles
just yet
378
00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:59,880
but it's starting to look like
the media upset
379
00:13:59,960 --> 00:14:00,000
earlier this week
really has hurt her...
380
00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,280
earlier this week
really has hurt her...
381
00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:06,920
(CHEERING)
382
00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,960
(INDISTINCT CHATTER
AND LAUGHTER INSIDE)
383
00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,240
They're not a bad combination,
actually.
384
00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:27,680
It's true!
385
00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:28,960
(LAUGHTER)
386
00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:30,240
Ev!
Hi!
387
00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,080
Oh.
What a surprise.
388
00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:33,320
Hello!
Well, I texted.
389
00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:34,760
(LAUGHS AWKWARDLY)
Hi, Daniel.
390
00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:35,920
Hi, Jon.
Hey.
391
00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:37,040
And hello.
392
00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:38,760
This is, uh,
Daniel's colleague, Belle.
393
00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,240
Hi.
394
00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:41,320
Stay for a drink?
395
00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,280
Yeah, I'd love to. (LAUGHS)
396
00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,240
Just... um... There's no... Oh.
397
00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:47,560
(CHUCKLES AWKWARDLY)
Looks nice.
398
00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:49,240
Yeah.
399
00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:50,440
And sorry, what is it? Belle?
400
00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:51,840
Belle, yeah.
401
00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,400
As in, of the ball?
(LAUGHTER)
402
00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:54,720
Yeah.
That's nice.
403
00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:56,520
And you are?
His wife.
404
00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,240
We're separated.
405
00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,000
(CLEARS THROAT)
406
00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:00,160
(CLEARS THROAT)
407
00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:01,560
(LAUGHS)
408
00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,800
I'll get you a glass.
409
00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,280
I was just watching the election
at the pub
410
00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,280
and there was
some football people there
411
00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,280
doing unsavoury things
to pool sticks,
412
00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:14,600
so I couldn't really focus.
413
00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,240
Oh, yeah, that's right.
414
00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,000
We haven't really been paying
attention since dinner.
415
00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:19,600
What's, uh...
what's actually happening?
416
00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,360
LUCY: Oh, bummer.
417
00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:22,720
I thought she was a shoo-in.
418
00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,680
DANIEL: No.
JON: Yep.
419
00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,280
See, I told you, she just...
she wasn't that hard on coal.
420
00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,760
I'm sorry, Lucy, but I think
I'm going to head out.
421
00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,640
I'm actually...
I'm just really tired, so...
422
00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,240
We'll walk you out.
Yeah, it's OK.
423
00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:37,920
No, it was lovely to meet you.
424
00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:39,120
Bye.
425
00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:40,960
Oh, bye, Bella.
426
00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,000
Well, it...
it might still be OK.
427
00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:52,400
Yeah, well, you know, there's
still the postals, so...
428
00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,320
Oh, I ruined your date. Sorry.
429
00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,320
Yeah, it wasn't a date, Evelyn.
430
00:15:58,400 --> 00:15:59,480
It really looked like a date,
431
00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:00,000
because your chairs
were almost touching.
432
00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:01,280
because your chairs
were almost touching.
433
00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,920
It might have been a set up,
but I knew nothing about it.
434
00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:05,360
Nothing?
No.
435
00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,320
(DOOR CLOSES)
436
00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,240
Why didn't Lucy tell me?
437
00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:10,960
I can't imagine.
Sorry, Ev.
438
00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,160
She's a colleague that's just
looking to meet new people.
439
00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:15,440
She has no friends.
440
00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,040
(LAUGHTER)
441
00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,120
I thought
they'd have lots in common.
442
00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:20,680
Like what? Size 12 feet?
443
00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:22,320
Hmm.
444
00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,200
Yeah.
445
00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,720
Well, I'll just go
and check on the boys, then.
446
00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,680
Ah, thank you for the drink.
447
00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,880
Sorry about your date.
448
00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:31,800
Um...
449
00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,240
(LOUD MUSIC FROM INSIDE)
450
00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,360
ALEX: Oh, Norma!
451
00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:39,360
Oh, what's going on?
452
00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,360
Why are they on the balcony?
453
00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:42,520
Where are their clothes?
454
00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,360
Sorry. It was a dare.
455
00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,240
MAN: (ON TV)
..and divisive election.
456
00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:48,360
Get inside!
457
00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,280
You'll traumatise
the neighbours. Oh, Oli!
458
00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:51,600
OLI: Don't look, Evelyn.
459
00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:53,640
The big announcement
is being overshadowed...
460
00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:55,360
ALEX: I love you, Mum.
(LAUGHS)
461
00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:56,560
What... what's going on?
462
00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,320
I mean, what's happened here?
463
00:16:58,400 --> 00:16:59,920
How many beers have you had?
464
00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,560
Mum, we were just playing truth
or dare and it was a dare.
465
00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:04,160
It's all good, Evelyn.
466
00:17:05,079 --> 00:17:06,400
BOY: Busted.
467
00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,240
They lost a dare.
Oh.
468
00:17:08,319 --> 00:17:10,480
They were saying
some really gross things
469
00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,160
about hooking up with girls.
470
00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:13,599
Really?
Mm-hm.
471
00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:17,120
God. I'm surprised, after
the talking to I gave them.
472
00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:18,760
I'm gonna head out.
473
00:17:18,839 --> 00:17:20,440
I've gotta go meet a friend.
474
00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,680
She's threatening
to move to New Zealand.
475
00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,760
Voting has now closed
and counting is well underway,
476
00:17:25,839 --> 00:17:29,040
bringing an end to what
turns out to be a fair...
477
00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,240
That's not your fault.
478
00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,320
WOMAN: Current Prime Minister,
Anthony Talbot,
remains in the lead.
479
00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:40,520
We crossed over for comment.
480
00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,400
Look, it's been
a really tight race.
481
00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,440
Elizabeth ran a tough campaign
482
00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,440
and there's no doubt
that Evelyn Jones piece
did some damage.
483
00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:48,840
But that's politics.
484
00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,280
RADIO HOST:
What a wild night last night,
485
00:17:51,360 --> 00:17:53,840
and I tell you one woman
who will have a hell of
a hangover, is Evelyn Jones.
486
00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,080
RADIO HOST: But let's not give
Evelyn Jones all the credit.
487
00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,080
Big Hands and her dopey team
ran a shocking campaign.
488
00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:00,000
WOMAN: To get that close,
and then...
489
00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,280
WOMAN: To get that close,
and then...
490
00:18:01,360 --> 00:18:04,160
These chances
don't come often for women.
491
00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,720
Sorry, I'm just very emotional
this morning.
492
00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,960
OPAL: I mean, she made it
into the New York Times.
493
00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:18,880
PENNY: She must be thrilled.
494
00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,080
Femisorb
have pulled their account.
495
00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:22,440
Oh.
496
00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:23,760
Who are they, again?
497
00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,760
The post-partum sanitary pads.
498
00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:30,280
You OK?
499
00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,360
Can you get Norma
to come in here?
500
00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:37,880
Norma, Evelyn wants you.
501
00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,480
And, Paul, find us
a new incontinence product.
502
00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,320
Shut the door.
OK.
503
00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,480
You haven't been home
in a couple of days.
504
00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,560
Oh. Sorry, boss. (LAUGHS)
505
00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,000
I thought I'd texted.
I was at my parents...
506
00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,600
Actually,
it's more about Saturday night.
507
00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,240
The boys were drunk
and half-naked.
508
00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,560
Um, I'm sorry, but they were
being really foul.
509
00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,360
Did you need to punish them?
Just a dare.
510
00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,320
I was just teaching them
a lesson about consent,
511
00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:00,000
like you did.
512
00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,480
like you did.
513
00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,800
Well, I didn't teach them by
locking them out of a building.
514
00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,200
OK, no offence,
but sometimes that's
515
00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,360
kind of the whole problem
with your generation.
516
00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,080
We don't try and hurt people?
517
00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,960
No, you just...
you let people off too easy.
518
00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:16,520
So nothing ever changes.
519
00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,040
I mean, like your Terry Blaine
interview,
520
00:19:19,120 --> 00:19:21,520
you didn't exactly
challenge him.
521
00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,960
Anyway, I am...
I'm really sorry.
522
00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:26,400
Really.
523
00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,840
And, um... I kind of need
to move back home for a bit.
524
00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,280
If that's cool...
Yep. Good.
525
00:19:33,360 --> 00:19:35,080
I mean, it's probably best.
526
00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:36,480
Great.
527
00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:38,200
We're good? OK.
Yep.
528
00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,160
Oh. Hey.
529
00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,560
Hey, we need to discuss
tonight's panel.
530
00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,840
I strongly suggest you pull out.
531
00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:48,680
Why?
532
00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,560
It's all women, isn't it?
533
00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,120
Carmen Stuart's on the panel.
534
00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,360
All the more reason to pull out.
535
00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:55,960
No, I can't.
536
00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:57,560
I won't.
537
00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:58,600
Addy's coming.
538
00:19:58,680 --> 00:19:59,920
I can't just disappear.
539
00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,440
Well, are you prepared?
540
00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:02,760
I'm gonna do that now.
541
00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,000
And, yes,
I've read all of Carmen's books.
542
00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,320
Well, at least the famous one.
543
00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,560
(PHONE RINGS)
544
00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,520
Robert Sharp.
Oh, hi, Robert.
545
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,240
Leave a message.
546
00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:18,760
(SCOFFS)
547
00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,680
Women of Influence.
548
00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,280
Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
549
00:20:32,360 --> 00:20:34,000
Mm?
Mmm.
550
00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,600
I just had a call from Tracy.
551
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,600
Oliver's mum?
Oh, yeah, Tracy.
552
00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,040
Yeah. Tracy's going ballistic.
553
00:20:41,120 --> 00:20:43,320
She's threatening
to tell Fletcher.
What?!
554
00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,600
Oli vomited
on their Burmese cat.
555
00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,840
Oli said he drank beer at home.
556
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,600
He was lying, but I just...
557
00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,480
Jon, I wanted Alex to have fun.
558
00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:54,800
I know you did.
559
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,600
Just because Alex
is sensible and trustworthy
560
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,920
doesn't mean his friends are,
especially that dickhead Oli.
561
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:00,000
Tracy's gonna try and call you.
562
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:00,400
Tracy's gonna try and call you.
563
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,640
Probably best
if you don't answer, alright?
564
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,040
I will answer
565
00:21:04,120 --> 00:21:05,640
and I look forward
to telling her
566
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,800
that her son's
a lying misogynist.
567
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,040
Allow me.
568
00:21:11,120 --> 00:21:13,200
Oh!
Why, thank you.
569
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:14,000
Dame Edna?!
570
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:15,640
Hello, Mother.
Really?
571
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,640
Bye.
(SIGHS)
572
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,480
I won best costume!
(SIGHS)
573
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:22,880
You know she's a man?
574
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:24,560
WOMAN: Stand by,
we're about to go live.
575
00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:25,920
(APPLAUSE)
576
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,920
Welcome to Discourse,
577
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,520
where we dissect the week
in news,
578
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:32,880
politics and big ideas.
579
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,760
Tonight, we're discussing
the digital landscape
580
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,200
and how it's ushering in
581
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,280
what some are calling
the new feminism.
582
00:21:40,360 --> 00:21:42,360
I'm joined by a bevy
583
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,680
of brilliant and influential
women in media.
584
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:46,680
A bevy?
585
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:47,920
We're not birds, Rick.
586
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,720
I'm sorry. A parliament?
587
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,320
A tribe? A conventicle?
588
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,520
How about a murder?
Done. Love it.
589
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,240
So, first up is feminist,
590
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:59,440
influential writer
and columnist Riley Chase.
591
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:00,000
First opening thoughts
592
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:00,840
First opening thoughts
593
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,080
about women in the new
media landscape, Riley.
594
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,320
Yeah, well, it's an exciting
time to be online.
595
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,680
The internet is a place to be
heard, find community and...
596
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,640
Sell T-shirts.
(LAUGHTER)
597
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,640
Ha! Good stuff.
598
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,080
Next is Carmen Stuart,
599
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,760
feminist icon
and intellectual provocateur.
600
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,280
(APPLAUSE)
Welcome.
601
00:22:19,360 --> 00:22:22,200
Uh, quick thoughts
on the new feminism?
602
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,760
There's nothing new about it,
just the technology.
603
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:26,320
Provocative.
604
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,280
And Jasmine Odita,
Nigerian author from London.
605
00:22:29,360 --> 00:22:30,480
Your take?
606
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:31,880
I agree with Riley
607
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:33,960
that the new tech
amplifies marginalised voices
608
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,040
and facilitates
intersectionality.
609
00:22:36,120 --> 00:22:39,920
And last but not least,
women's blogger, Evelyn Jones.
610
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,560
How are you going today?
611
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,880
Oh, um, I'm... I'm alright.
612
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,600
I mean, I'm disappointed
about the election.
613
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,880
But very glad to be here
with these wonderful women.
614
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,720
Yes, well, another
strong female candidate,
615
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,240
another defeat.
616
00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,000
Evelyn, did we see the dangers
of internet virality
617
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,240
Evelyn, did we see the dangers
of internet virality
618
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,880
with your interview
with Elizabeth Myles?
619
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,760
Oh, absolutely.
620
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,080
When certain voices are
overamplified, it's a problem.
621
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,400
Overamplified?
Oh, do you mean...
622
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,560
Well, I guess, because I have
reach, um, I'm commercial.
623
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,080
You have ad partnerships with
questionable corporations.
624
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:22,400
Well, we're all just trying
to earn a living, aren't we?
625
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,320
Don't you sell vibrators?
626
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,760
Well,
better than regressive ideas.
627
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,960
Well,
you didn't like my interview.
628
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,080
It's a bit confusing, Riley,
629
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,760
when feminists
dress like slutty baristas.
630
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,320
Oh.
(AUDIENCE MEMBERS CHORTLE)
631
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,160
But I agree
that what Evelyn wrote
632
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,600
was a real elbow in the tit.
633
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,760
Well, my words may have been
a little... clunky.
634
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,520
Well, you're in the business
of words. Do better.
635
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:51,600
It's not revolutionary
to fire a man
because of a wolf-whistle.
636
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,200
It's also not revolutionary
637
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,560
to write about your miscarriage
to sell ad space.
638
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,480
That's called Capitalism and
it just makes you a prostitute.
639
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:00,000
Sex worker.
You're a prostitute too.
640
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,240
Sex worker.
You're a prostitute too.
641
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,000
Don't you own
a house in Tuscany?
642
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:04,520
Ladies,
let's not make it personal.
643
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,520
And don't 'ladies' me.
Sorry. Uh, women.
644
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:08,880
People. Humans?
645
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,720
I really didn't mean
to be regressive.
646
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,120
I do think...
647
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,040
I mean, I hope we're all
fighting for the same thing.
648
00:24:17,120 --> 00:24:19,720
Actually, women of different
races, sexualities
649
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,320
and classes are often fighting
for different things.
650
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,800
Alright, but getting back
to Evelyn's point,
651
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:30,080
surely there's some common
ground between you people?
652
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:34,680
Everything I know about feminism
I've learned from you.
653
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:35,960
Your books. Book.
654
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,160
Well, then, you didn't read it
properly.
655
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,840
Women
need to liberate themselves.
656
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,040
And you're not liberating them
anyway,
657
00:24:43,120 --> 00:24:44,920
you're just profiting
from their anxieties.
658
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,400
OK, I'll take that as a comment.
659
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,480
No, Rick, I'd like to respond,
actually.
660
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,200
I've created a space for women
to share their stories.
661
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,440
Edited and curated by you.
662
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:54,560
It's my website.
663
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,280
Well, exactly.
It's disempowering.
664
00:24:57,360 --> 00:24:58,440
How?
665
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,000
We post personal essays
and confessional pieces.
666
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,440
We post personal essays
and confessional pieces.
667
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,520
I'm just trying
to tell it as it is.
668
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,520
JASMINE: For you.
Who else is there?
669
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:06,760
Case in point.
670
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,040
No, no, that's not what I mean.
671
00:25:08,120 --> 00:25:09,400
You know that's not what I mean.
672
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,240
I mean, by their very nature,
673
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:13,880
personal essays are personal.
674
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,160
You tried to talk for Elizabeth
Myles and look how that went.
675
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,520
We've heard more than enough
from women like you.
676
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,120
You need to prioritise
other voices.
677
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,520
And really, why do you need
to speak at all?
678
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:24,840
What?
679
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,720
You're telling me - a woman -
680
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,240
that I should just stop talking?
681
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:32,360
CARMEN: And there it is.
682
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:33,880
This is what we women do.
683
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,240
Destroy each other.
684
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:37,680
Well...
685
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,800
Alright.
686
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,040
Let's move on to something
less controversial.
687
00:25:47,120 --> 00:25:50,040
Abortion. (CLEARS THROAT)
688
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,360
The slutty one was a bitch.
689
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:06,680
Riley.
690
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,160
Yeah.
691
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:17,440
What have I told you
about calling women slutty?
692
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,040
Hi.
693
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:36,960
How'd you go?
694
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,400
Oh...
695
00:26:41,120 --> 00:26:42,680
Yeah.
696
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:48,520
It's OK.
697
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,040
I'm... I'm...
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