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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,672 --> 00:00:07,408 ANNOUNCER: This program is about unsolved mysteries. 2 00:00:07,508 --> 00:00:09,443 Whenever possible, the actual family members 3 00:00:09,543 --> 00:00:11,345 and police officials have participated 4 00:00:11,445 --> 00:00:12,980 in recreating the events. 5 00:00:13,081 --> 00:00:15,283 What you are about to see is not a news broadcast. 6 00:00:20,554 --> 00:00:22,290 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): During the late 1960s, 7 00:00:22,390 --> 00:00:24,458 thousands of curiosity seekers lined up 8 00:00:24,558 --> 00:00:27,461 to catch a glimpse of the legendary Iceman, 9 00:00:27,561 --> 00:00:31,165 a mysterious creature reportedly half man and half ape entombed 10 00:00:31,265 --> 00:00:34,001 in a block of solid ice. 11 00:00:34,102 --> 00:00:36,370 But when the police began to investigate just 12 00:00:36,470 --> 00:00:42,210 who or what was in the frozen tomb, the Iceman vanished. 13 00:00:42,310 --> 00:00:44,412 At the age of 10, Tom Vaughn landed 14 00:00:44,512 --> 00:00:46,747 in a children's home, the innocent victim 15 00:00:46,847 --> 00:00:49,083 of his parents' bitter divorce. 16 00:00:49,183 --> 00:00:52,920 Tom was absolutely miserable till he met a boy named Brendan 17 00:00:53,020 --> 00:00:55,323 whose sense of humor and the irrepressible spirit 18 00:00:55,423 --> 00:00:58,326 helped Tom survive his darkest hours. 19 00:00:58,426 --> 00:01:00,928 Tonight, Tom would like to thank the friend 20 00:01:01,028 --> 00:01:05,199 he hasn't seen since 1957. 21 00:01:05,299 --> 00:01:08,269 In 1953, at the height of the Cold War, 22 00:01:08,369 --> 00:01:10,571 a government scientist named Frank Olson 23 00:01:10,671 --> 00:01:12,206 plunged to his death from a hotel 24 00:01:12,306 --> 00:01:14,808 window, an apparent suicide. 25 00:01:14,908 --> 00:01:19,447 22 years later, it was revealed that just days before he died, 26 00:01:19,547 --> 00:01:21,415 Frank Olson been unwittingly dosed 27 00:01:21,515 --> 00:01:24,318 with the hallucinogenic drug LSD as part 28 00:01:24,418 --> 00:01:28,055 of a secret CIA experiment. 29 00:01:28,156 --> 00:01:31,759 Join me as we begin a fascinating new season. 30 00:01:31,859 --> 00:01:35,163 Perhaps you may be able to help solve a mystery. 31 00:01:35,263 --> 00:01:37,665 [theme music] 32 00:02:32,186 --> 00:02:33,854 Well, as you can see, gentlemen, 33 00:02:33,954 --> 00:02:36,156 these are not ideal circumstances 34 00:02:36,257 --> 00:02:38,492 in which to view the exhibit. 35 00:02:38,592 --> 00:02:40,294 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): On a chilly December evening 36 00:02:40,394 --> 00:02:43,731 in 1968, a promoter named Frank Hanson led 37 00:02:43,831 --> 00:02:46,166 two renowned scientists into an isolated 38 00:02:46,267 --> 00:02:49,169 barn in southeastern Minnesota. 39 00:02:49,270 --> 00:02:51,205 Mr. Hanson, is the exhibit ever shown outside the trailer? 40 00:02:51,305 --> 00:02:52,240 No. 41 00:02:52,340 --> 00:02:54,308 It is always shown only in the trailer. 42 00:02:54,408 --> 00:02:56,210 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Ivan Sanderson and Dr. Bernard 43 00:02:56,310 --> 00:02:58,812 Heuvelmans were experts in the esoteric field 44 00:02:58,912 --> 00:03:02,416 of cryptozoology, a study of hidden species. 45 00:03:02,516 --> 00:03:05,052 They had come to examine a peculiar artifact that 46 00:03:05,152 --> 00:03:07,355 had fallen into Hanson's possession. 47 00:03:11,559 --> 00:03:15,028 Gentlemen, here is the exhibit. 48 00:03:20,701 --> 00:03:22,670 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The two scientists were astonished. 49 00:03:22,770 --> 00:03:25,205 Entombed in a block of solid ice was 50 00:03:25,306 --> 00:03:27,007 a mysterious creature that appeared 51 00:03:27,107 --> 00:03:28,809 to be half man, half ape. 52 00:03:32,580 --> 00:03:35,616 These are actual photographs of the Iceman. 53 00:03:35,716 --> 00:03:38,185 Sanderson and Heuvelmans departed, convinced 54 00:03:38,286 --> 00:03:40,288 that this bizarre sideshow attraction 55 00:03:40,388 --> 00:03:42,823 had genuine scientific value. 56 00:03:42,923 --> 00:03:44,825 But within just a few short weeks, 57 00:03:44,925 --> 00:03:47,094 the enigmatic creature had vanished, 58 00:03:47,194 --> 00:03:49,997 and with it any future opportunity for study. 59 00:03:53,066 --> 00:03:57,137 Who, Or rather what, was the Iceman? 60 00:03:57,237 --> 00:04:00,841 Most people assumed it was just what it was purported to be, 61 00:04:00,941 --> 00:04:04,545 an entertaining illusion created by a master showman. 62 00:04:04,645 --> 00:04:07,548 Sanderson and Heuvelmans disagreed. 63 00:04:07,648 --> 00:04:10,183 They theorized that the Iceman was, in reality, 64 00:04:10,284 --> 00:04:13,421 a prehistoric ancestor of man that has somehow 65 00:04:13,521 --> 00:04:16,790 survived into the 20th century. 66 00:04:16,890 --> 00:04:19,727 This machine predates the Model T. 67 00:04:19,827 --> 00:04:22,062 It is one of the oldest tractors in the world, 68 00:04:22,162 --> 00:04:23,331 revolutionized farming-- 69 00:04:23,431 --> 00:04:25,533 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): In 1967, Frank Hanson 70 00:04:25,633 --> 00:04:27,901 was traveling the state fair circuit exhibiting 71 00:04:28,001 --> 00:04:29,970 an antique mechanical contraption 72 00:04:30,070 --> 00:04:32,540 that he billed as the first gas-powered tractor. 73 00:04:35,275 --> 00:04:37,445 At one stop, Frank was allegedly approached 74 00:04:37,545 --> 00:04:40,080 by a mysterious soft-spoken stranger. 75 00:04:40,180 --> 00:04:45,453 The following recreations are based upon published accounts. 76 00:04:45,553 --> 00:04:47,988 Sir, may I have a word with you, please? 77 00:04:48,088 --> 00:04:49,122 Why, certainly. 78 00:04:52,159 --> 00:04:54,762 I find what you're doing here, sir, is fascinating. 79 00:04:54,862 --> 00:04:56,564 I have an exhibit that I think would 80 00:04:56,664 --> 00:04:59,867 benefit from your expertise. 81 00:04:59,967 --> 00:05:01,168 Please give me a call. 82 00:05:01,268 --> 00:05:02,436 It might be worth your while. 83 00:05:02,536 --> 00:05:04,137 Thank you. 84 00:05:04,237 --> 00:05:06,774 Thank you. 85 00:05:06,874 --> 00:05:08,175 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Hanson later met 86 00:05:08,275 --> 00:05:10,678 the stranger at a refrigerated warehouse 87 00:05:10,778 --> 00:05:13,013 in some unknown location. 88 00:05:13,113 --> 00:05:16,517 What you are going to see belongs to me. 89 00:05:16,617 --> 00:05:20,688 How I came by it is my business and we need 90 00:05:20,788 --> 00:05:22,356 not discuss that at the moment. 91 00:05:22,456 --> 00:05:25,959 Is there some reason it needs to be kept in such cold? 92 00:05:26,059 --> 00:05:28,829 I think that will be obvious to you in just a few moments. 93 00:05:38,572 --> 00:05:40,207 Is it real? 94 00:05:40,307 --> 00:05:42,476 Where did you get this from? 95 00:05:42,576 --> 00:05:43,744 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Frank Hanson 96 00:05:43,844 --> 00:05:46,580 knew a golden opportunity when he saw one. 97 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,782 He agreed to take the creature on the road 98 00:05:48,882 --> 00:05:50,918 and billed it as an educational exhibit. 99 00:05:56,724 --> 00:05:58,526 Over the next two years, the Iceman 100 00:05:58,626 --> 00:06:01,395 became a star attraction at carnivals and state fairs 101 00:06:01,495 --> 00:06:03,163 throughout the Midwest. 102 00:06:03,263 --> 00:06:04,932 Thousands of people were fascinated, 103 00:06:05,032 --> 00:06:07,034 but no one seemed to know what it was. 104 00:06:10,471 --> 00:06:13,306 Zookeeper Bob Surpleski saw the Iceman 105 00:06:13,407 --> 00:06:15,576 when he was 18 years old. 106 00:06:15,676 --> 00:06:18,045 What I was looking at was not made out of latex, 107 00:06:18,145 --> 00:06:20,013 it was not made out of rubber. 108 00:06:20,113 --> 00:06:21,815 It did not appear to be a man-made thing. 109 00:06:21,915 --> 00:06:24,384 It appeared to be something. 110 00:06:24,485 --> 00:06:26,186 But as far as my opinion, I don't 111 00:06:26,286 --> 00:06:28,489 know what I was looking at. 112 00:06:28,589 --> 00:06:31,959 But I'm sure I was looking at something dead. 113 00:06:32,059 --> 00:06:34,027 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Environmentalist David Rivard 114 00:06:34,127 --> 00:06:36,764 viewed the exhibit in 1968. 115 00:06:36,864 --> 00:06:38,632 The first thing that went through the average person's 116 00:06:38,732 --> 00:06:43,671 mind was that this was not a wax animal that he had there. 117 00:06:43,771 --> 00:06:48,776 This was not something that was a machine. 118 00:06:48,876 --> 00:06:52,345 It was some kind of a formerly live animal 119 00:06:52,446 --> 00:06:55,048 that was in the block of ice. 120 00:06:55,148 --> 00:06:56,450 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Dr. Terry Cullen 121 00:06:56,550 --> 00:06:58,919 is a zoological and veterinary researcher. 122 00:06:59,019 --> 00:07:02,656 And I had long been an aficionado of sideshows 123 00:07:02,756 --> 00:07:06,126 and going to see them for mostly curiosity reasons. 124 00:07:06,226 --> 00:07:07,260 It was always enjoyable. 125 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,697 You always had a great time trying to find out 126 00:07:09,797 --> 00:07:12,633 what they were doing and how they had it, what 127 00:07:12,733 --> 00:07:14,001 they did to fool the public. 128 00:07:14,101 --> 00:07:15,469 And about 99% of the-- 129 00:07:15,569 --> 00:07:16,737 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): In the past, 130 00:07:16,837 --> 00:07:19,339 Terry Cullen has been reluctant to deal with the media. 131 00:07:19,439 --> 00:07:21,208 After he agreed to this interview 132 00:07:21,308 --> 00:07:24,411 to try to clear up past inaccuracies about the Iceman. 133 00:07:31,952 --> 00:07:33,320 Oh my god. 134 00:07:33,420 --> 00:07:34,588 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Cullen first 135 00:07:34,688 --> 00:07:37,157 saw the Iceman when he was 17. 136 00:07:37,257 --> 00:07:39,059 He says the creature appeared to be a six 137 00:07:39,159 --> 00:07:41,328 foot tall adolescent male. 138 00:07:41,428 --> 00:07:43,230 It was covered with medium length hair 139 00:07:43,330 --> 00:07:45,766 and had highly visible follicles. 140 00:07:45,866 --> 00:07:49,002 Cullen also noticed a traumatic injury to the left side 141 00:07:49,102 --> 00:07:52,673 of the Iceman's face. 142 00:07:52,773 --> 00:07:58,378 There was a noticeable odor coming out of this casket. 143 00:07:58,478 --> 00:08:00,914 The one thing that there is no doubt in my mind about 144 00:08:01,014 --> 00:08:03,751 is that the thing that I observed, 145 00:08:03,851 --> 00:08:06,219 the carcass that I observed, was in fact 146 00:08:06,319 --> 00:08:09,056 made out of some sort of flesh. 147 00:08:09,156 --> 00:08:10,023 Hi, young man. 148 00:08:10,123 --> 00:08:11,424 You've been here before, haven't you? 149 00:08:11,525 --> 00:08:12,593 Yes, I have. 150 00:08:12,693 --> 00:08:14,361 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Terry Cullen was hooked. 151 00:08:14,461 --> 00:08:17,531 He returned to the exhibit time and time again. 152 00:08:17,631 --> 00:08:21,301 On one occasion, Cullen snuck in a magnifying glass. 153 00:08:21,401 --> 00:08:23,136 Frank Hansen had seemed increasingly 154 00:08:23,236 --> 00:08:25,372 agitated with each visit, so Terry 155 00:08:25,472 --> 00:08:28,576 made sure he was discreet. 156 00:08:28,676 --> 00:08:31,044 There was something of a death grimace on the face. 157 00:08:31,144 --> 00:08:35,282 The upper lip was pulled back a bit. 158 00:08:35,382 --> 00:08:39,587 I was able to observe all four incisors, which 159 00:08:39,687 --> 00:08:41,088 were very large, very squarish, very 160 00:08:41,188 --> 00:08:44,024 much like an orang's incisors. 161 00:08:44,124 --> 00:08:47,394 Whatever this was, it was important enough 162 00:08:47,494 --> 00:08:50,430 to get the necessary scientific personnel in there 163 00:08:50,530 --> 00:08:54,835 to view it, to establish that either yes, this 164 00:08:54,935 --> 00:09:03,476 is some form of unknown creature or no, this is a fake somehow 165 00:09:03,577 --> 00:09:09,349 cleverly constructed from the parts of other animals 166 00:09:09,449 --> 00:09:11,819 or whatever materials they were using. 167 00:09:11,919 --> 00:09:13,086 Missing link, huh? 168 00:09:13,186 --> 00:09:13,987 Yeah. 169 00:09:14,087 --> 00:09:15,022 I can't wait for you see this. 170 00:09:15,122 --> 00:09:16,724 Kid, I've been to a lot of sideshows. 171 00:09:16,824 --> 00:09:18,258 These things always fake. - No. 172 00:09:18,358 --> 00:09:19,259 This one's amazing. 173 00:09:19,359 --> 00:09:21,094 I think this one's real. 174 00:09:21,194 --> 00:09:22,295 - Don't expect too much. - Yeah. 175 00:09:22,395 --> 00:09:23,496 Go on. 176 00:09:23,597 --> 00:09:24,865 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Over the next few weeks, 177 00:09:24,965 --> 00:09:27,701 Terry Cullen tried to entice several scientific experts 178 00:09:27,801 --> 00:09:29,569 to view the creature. 179 00:09:29,670 --> 00:09:31,939 Eventually, he convinced an anthropologist 180 00:09:32,039 --> 00:09:33,674 from the University of Minnesota. 181 00:09:54,762 --> 00:09:56,964 TERRY CULLEN: He was in there perhaps 10 to 15 182 00:09:57,064 --> 00:09:58,598 minutes, came back out again. 183 00:09:58,699 --> 00:10:01,534 And he started walking past where I was standing 184 00:10:01,635 --> 00:10:03,871 and he had sort of a dreamy look on his face. 185 00:10:03,971 --> 00:10:06,039 I came zipping up to him. 186 00:10:06,139 --> 00:10:07,675 Well, what did you think? 187 00:10:07,775 --> 00:10:08,541 It's amazing. 188 00:10:08,642 --> 00:10:09,442 Yeah? 189 00:10:09,542 --> 00:10:10,878 I mean, well tell me. 190 00:10:10,978 --> 00:10:12,512 It's really amazing. 191 00:10:12,612 --> 00:10:13,580 What did you see out of it. 192 00:10:13,681 --> 00:10:14,481 I mean, what did you-- 193 00:10:14,581 --> 00:10:17,284 Thank you. 194 00:10:17,384 --> 00:10:21,221 I remember being practically close to tears from frustration 195 00:10:21,321 --> 00:10:24,091 that I had finally gotten someone who at least had 196 00:10:24,191 --> 00:10:26,626 some credibility in the field of anthropology 197 00:10:26,727 --> 00:10:30,831 to look at this thing and I couldn't even get six 198 00:10:30,931 --> 00:10:32,599 words out of the gentleman now. 199 00:10:32,700 --> 00:10:35,903 The reasons for that I can't even speculate on. 200 00:10:36,003 --> 00:10:40,340 At that point, I decided I would have to pursue other avenues. 201 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:41,574 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): In the end, 202 00:10:41,675 --> 00:10:43,143 it was Terry Cullen who convinced 203 00:10:43,243 --> 00:10:47,915 Sanderson and Heuvelmans to examine the Iceman. 204 00:10:48,015 --> 00:10:51,451 TERRY CULLEN: Sandersen and Heuvelmans were both convinced 205 00:10:51,551 --> 00:10:55,488 that, in fact, this carcass was a genuine carcass 206 00:10:55,588 --> 00:10:59,459 of some unknown form of animal or hominid. 207 00:11:02,429 --> 00:11:04,231 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): In May of 1969, 208 00:11:04,331 --> 00:11:06,266 Sanderson and Heuvelmans published 209 00:11:06,366 --> 00:11:09,569 their findings in a tabloid magazine for science buffs. 210 00:11:12,773 --> 00:11:16,276 National attention quickly descended upon Frank Hanson, 211 00:11:16,376 --> 00:11:19,512 and before long the authorities took an interest in Hanson 212 00:11:19,612 --> 00:11:21,448 and the frozen carcass. 213 00:11:21,548 --> 00:11:24,484 In the summer of 1969, the local sheriff 214 00:11:24,584 --> 00:11:27,287 stopped by Hanson's farmhouse. 215 00:11:27,387 --> 00:11:30,123 Some people think that thing you've got is the real McCoy. 216 00:11:30,223 --> 00:11:31,091 Of course. 217 00:11:31,191 --> 00:11:32,860 They're supposed to. - Look, Frank. 218 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,295 If it is, I've got a couple of problems with it. 219 00:11:35,395 --> 00:11:37,798 Taking a cadaver over state lines is illegal. 220 00:11:37,898 --> 00:11:41,701 And if it's the real McCoy, how did it get dead? 221 00:11:41,802 --> 00:11:44,838 Listen, you can come with me and we'll look at it together. 222 00:11:44,938 --> 00:11:46,106 No, look. 223 00:11:46,206 --> 00:11:49,342 What say I bring a pathologist back tomorrow morning? 224 00:11:49,442 --> 00:11:50,978 That OK with you? - Well, sure. 225 00:11:51,078 --> 00:11:51,879 That's OK. 226 00:11:51,979 --> 00:11:52,880 10:00 OK? 227 00:11:52,980 --> 00:11:53,781 That's fine. 228 00:11:53,881 --> 00:11:54,748 - OK. - See you then. 229 00:11:54,848 --> 00:11:55,648 Sure. 230 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,295 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): That very night, Frank Hanson 231 00:12:08,395 --> 00:12:10,463 allegedly beat it out of town, taking 232 00:12:10,563 --> 00:12:13,100 his controversial exhibit with him. 233 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,003 A few months later, Hanson was back on the circuit 234 00:12:16,103 --> 00:12:18,872 with a replica of the mysterious creature. 235 00:12:18,972 --> 00:12:21,708 The whereabouts of the real Iceman are still unknown. 236 00:12:24,744 --> 00:12:28,515 This thing may one day be understood by us 237 00:12:28,615 --> 00:12:33,053 as a genuine object, as a true representative 238 00:12:33,153 --> 00:12:35,488 of something primitive and manlike 239 00:12:35,588 --> 00:12:37,557 that is still living today. 240 00:12:37,657 --> 00:12:40,293 If under other circumstances this kind of thing 241 00:12:40,393 --> 00:12:43,230 is found and described and matches 242 00:12:43,330 --> 00:12:46,867 those extensive descriptions by Sandersen and Heuvelmans, 243 00:12:46,967 --> 00:12:50,170 then at that point in time some day in the future, 244 00:12:50,270 --> 00:12:52,840 we would know that this was the real thing 245 00:12:52,940 --> 00:12:59,012 that they saw in 1968. 246 00:12:59,112 --> 00:13:00,848 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): What was the Iceman, 247 00:13:00,948 --> 00:13:02,649 a primitive human-like species that 248 00:13:02,749 --> 00:13:05,418 managed to survive until present day, 249 00:13:05,518 --> 00:13:09,589 an elaborate hoax pulled off by a professional huckster, 250 00:13:09,689 --> 00:13:13,526 or perhaps some unfortunate soul who died an untimely death 251 00:13:13,626 --> 00:13:18,631 and ended up as a sideshow attraction? 252 00:13:18,731 --> 00:13:20,633 Frank Hanson may be the only person 253 00:13:20,733 --> 00:13:24,171 who can answer these questions, and he isn't talking. 254 00:13:24,271 --> 00:13:27,240 Despite repeated attempts to have him share his story, 255 00:13:27,340 --> 00:13:30,643 Hansen declined to participate in this broadcast. 256 00:13:30,743 --> 00:13:33,080 For now, it seems, the legend of the Iceman 257 00:13:33,180 --> 00:13:34,882 must remain just that-- 258 00:13:34,982 --> 00:13:35,782 a legend. 259 00:13:39,119 --> 00:13:41,788 When we return, perhaps someone in our audience 260 00:13:41,889 --> 00:13:43,891 will be able to reunite two childhood friends. 261 00:13:54,767 --> 00:13:57,170 At any moment, any one of us can meet a person 262 00:13:57,270 --> 00:13:59,973 who changes our lives forever. 263 00:14:00,073 --> 00:14:02,943 In 1956, two 10-year-old boys named 264 00:14:03,043 --> 00:14:05,612 Tom and Brendan met in a Catholic children's home 265 00:14:05,712 --> 00:14:07,314 in New York City. 266 00:14:07,414 --> 00:14:11,751 By an odd coincidence, they both had the same last name, Vaughn. 267 00:14:11,851 --> 00:14:14,754 Not so coincidentally, they both needed a friend. 268 00:14:17,624 --> 00:14:20,593 TOM VAUGHN: I believe that Brendan saved my life 269 00:14:20,693 --> 00:14:23,496 because he did have such a unique way 270 00:14:23,596 --> 00:14:29,269 of helping me put things into their proper perspective. 271 00:14:29,369 --> 00:14:30,938 I don't know what would have happened 272 00:14:31,038 --> 00:14:33,106 during that first year had Brendan not been 273 00:14:33,206 --> 00:14:37,610 there to tickle my funny bone. 274 00:14:41,614 --> 00:14:42,615 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): How Tom 275 00:14:42,715 --> 00:14:44,584 Vaughn came to be in the children's home 276 00:14:44,684 --> 00:14:47,955 is a story in itself. 277 00:14:48,055 --> 00:14:49,589 His mother, Jean, and his father had 278 00:14:49,689 --> 00:14:51,858 gone through a bitter divorce. 279 00:14:51,959 --> 00:14:55,795 By 1954, Jean was hiding Tom and his little brother, Dick, 280 00:14:55,895 --> 00:14:56,696 from their father. 281 00:15:00,433 --> 00:15:03,170 The boys bounced from rooming houses to foster homes, 282 00:15:03,270 --> 00:15:06,306 living in nine different places in less than two years' time. 283 00:15:10,477 --> 00:15:11,979 Finally, they ended up in the Bronx 284 00:15:12,079 --> 00:15:14,447 in a basement apartment supervised by kindly 285 00:15:14,547 --> 00:15:16,783 landlord, Sonny [inaudible]. 286 00:15:16,883 --> 00:15:18,685 I came about the apartment. 287 00:15:18,785 --> 00:15:19,987 [knocking at door] 288 00:15:20,087 --> 00:15:21,388 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Nevertheless, Jean Vaughn's 289 00:15:21,488 --> 00:15:24,557 life grew increasingly chaotic and the boys were usually 290 00:15:24,657 --> 00:15:26,126 left to fend for themselves. 291 00:15:26,226 --> 00:15:27,127 Who is it? 292 00:15:27,227 --> 00:15:29,062 It's Mr. C, Tom. 293 00:15:32,665 --> 00:15:33,466 Hey. 294 00:15:33,566 --> 00:15:34,401 Your mother called. 295 00:15:34,501 --> 00:15:36,803 She said she's going to be late. 296 00:15:36,903 --> 00:15:38,605 When's she going to be home? 297 00:15:38,705 --> 00:15:40,607 A couple of hours. 298 00:15:40,707 --> 00:15:42,409 Did you have something to eat yet? 299 00:15:42,509 --> 00:15:43,510 Oh, we're about to eat. 300 00:15:43,610 --> 00:15:44,411 Oh, yeah. 301 00:15:44,511 --> 00:15:45,745 Well, then maybe-- 302 00:15:45,845 --> 00:15:47,347 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Sonny kept an eye on the boys. 303 00:15:47,447 --> 00:15:49,349 In fact, he and his wife wanted to become 304 00:15:49,449 --> 00:15:52,752 their legal guardians, but Catholic Charities stepped in. 305 00:15:57,024 --> 00:15:59,859 They were finally convinced that Jean was an unfit mother. 306 00:15:59,959 --> 00:16:02,562 They pressured her to send the boy to a children's home. 307 00:16:06,033 --> 00:16:08,301 Tom and Dick were taken to the Lieutenant Joseph P 308 00:16:08,401 --> 00:16:10,937 Kennedy, Jr Home for Children in the Pelham 309 00:16:11,038 --> 00:16:12,339 Bay section of the Bronx. 310 00:16:15,942 --> 00:16:17,877 TOM VAUGHN: As we emerged from the car, 311 00:16:17,977 --> 00:16:22,482 there was an opportunity for me to take flight and run 312 00:16:22,582 --> 00:16:23,916 down the street and run away. 313 00:16:26,986 --> 00:16:29,456 And yet I knew there was nothing I could do 314 00:16:29,556 --> 00:16:33,560 and that I had to face what was about to transpire. 315 00:16:33,660 --> 00:16:35,795 Come along, boys. 316 00:16:35,895 --> 00:16:37,364 Come along. 317 00:16:37,464 --> 00:16:38,798 TOM VAUGHN: I had to be in charge of Dick 318 00:16:38,898 --> 00:16:41,368 and there was no way in front of all of these strangers 319 00:16:41,468 --> 00:16:45,405 that I could tell them how I felt or what I was feeling. 320 00:16:45,505 --> 00:16:47,074 So I was trapped. 321 00:16:49,809 --> 00:16:52,745 And I think maybe it's time now to go 322 00:16:52,845 --> 00:16:54,147 and get unpacked and settled. 323 00:16:54,247 --> 00:16:56,116 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): When the moment came for the boys 324 00:16:56,216 --> 00:16:58,118 to tell their mother goodbye, Tom 325 00:16:58,218 --> 00:17:01,288 was paralyzed with fear, barely able to move 326 00:17:01,388 --> 00:17:05,392 and totally unable to speak. 327 00:17:05,492 --> 00:17:07,960 TOM VAUGHN: I distinctly remember yelling 328 00:17:08,061 --> 00:17:10,830 to myself, Mom, don't leave us. 329 00:17:10,930 --> 00:17:13,566 Don't allow this to happen. 330 00:17:13,666 --> 00:17:15,835 Don't allow them to take us from you. 331 00:17:15,935 --> 00:17:19,339 I love you, Dickie. 332 00:17:19,439 --> 00:17:22,008 I was so angry and I was feeling so much pain 333 00:17:22,109 --> 00:17:24,244 and so much of a sense of loss that I 334 00:17:24,344 --> 00:17:30,417 was just happy to turn from that scene and walk out of the room. 335 00:17:30,517 --> 00:17:31,684 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): For so long, 336 00:17:31,784 --> 00:17:33,153 Tom and Dick had been one another's 337 00:17:33,253 --> 00:17:35,855 primary source of strength. 338 00:17:35,955 --> 00:17:38,291 Now, although they can still see their mother together 339 00:17:38,391 --> 00:17:41,794 on weekends, at the home itself they were forced to live apart. 340 00:17:45,465 --> 00:17:47,800 Tom sank deeper and deeper into misery 341 00:17:47,900 --> 00:17:50,703 and turned a sullen face to his new peers. 342 00:17:50,803 --> 00:17:51,738 Good evening, boys. 343 00:17:51,838 --> 00:17:53,106 I'd like you to meet Tommy. 344 00:17:53,206 --> 00:17:55,675 Tommy, these are going to be your new dorm mates. 345 00:17:55,775 --> 00:17:59,179 This is Brendan, Jerry, and Michael. 346 00:17:59,279 --> 00:18:00,547 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Tom could never 347 00:18:00,647 --> 00:18:02,782 have guessed that this boy, Brendan Vaughan, 348 00:18:02,882 --> 00:18:04,917 would be his salvation. 349 00:18:05,017 --> 00:18:08,821 Brendan simply refuse to let Tom retreat into his shell. 350 00:18:08,921 --> 00:18:12,659 What's your name again, Tommy? 351 00:18:12,759 --> 00:18:13,660 Where you from? 352 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,795 How long you been here? 353 00:18:15,895 --> 00:18:17,164 TOM VAUGHN: He started talking to me, 354 00:18:17,264 --> 00:18:20,867 but I really wasn't in the mood for any conversation 355 00:18:20,967 --> 00:18:26,072 whatsoever and sat there kind of picking at my food. 356 00:18:26,173 --> 00:18:27,540 What happened, cat got your tongue? 357 00:18:30,177 --> 00:18:34,614 TOM VAUGHN: Well, after we left the dinner table, 358 00:18:34,714 --> 00:18:38,551 I went back up to my room and this Brendan character 359 00:18:38,651 --> 00:18:40,520 had the bunk next to mine. 360 00:18:40,620 --> 00:18:43,390 What's your last name? 361 00:18:43,490 --> 00:18:44,857 Vaughn. 362 00:18:44,957 --> 00:18:45,758 Hm. 363 00:18:45,858 --> 00:18:46,793 What a coincidence. 364 00:18:46,893 --> 00:18:49,362 That's my last name. 365 00:18:49,462 --> 00:18:51,231 How do you spell it? 366 00:18:51,331 --> 00:18:52,832 V-A-U-G-H-N. 367 00:18:52,932 --> 00:18:54,367 I spell my a little differently. 368 00:18:54,467 --> 00:18:57,003 TOM VAUGHN: He had big freckles and curly brown hair 369 00:18:57,103 --> 00:18:58,271 and he had the Irish accent. 370 00:18:58,371 --> 00:18:59,172 OK. 371 00:18:59,272 --> 00:19:02,609 Lights out, tuck in. 372 00:19:02,709 --> 00:19:07,013 It wasn't too long before he had me opening up. 373 00:19:07,113 --> 00:19:13,886 And he had a mischievous manner about him and devilish, 374 00:19:13,986 --> 00:19:15,788 to say the least. 375 00:19:15,888 --> 00:19:20,092 Tommy, tell me when you fall asleep, OK? 376 00:19:20,193 --> 00:19:21,328 What? 377 00:19:21,428 --> 00:19:23,596 Tell me when you fall asleep. 378 00:19:26,599 --> 00:19:31,304 How can I tell you when I'm asleep when I'm already asleep? 379 00:19:31,404 --> 00:19:33,039 TOM VAUGHN: He would do silly little things 380 00:19:33,139 --> 00:19:38,245 to try and make me feel not so sad or depressed. 381 00:19:38,345 --> 00:19:39,145 Good night, Brendan. 382 00:19:43,149 --> 00:19:46,018 Tommy, why did God make you? 383 00:19:46,118 --> 00:19:47,354 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Brendan helped 384 00:19:47,454 --> 00:19:49,021 Tom in other ways, as well. 385 00:19:49,121 --> 00:19:50,223 Why did God make you? 386 00:19:50,323 --> 00:19:51,558 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Especially in catechism 387 00:19:51,658 --> 00:19:54,026 class, where the children were required to deliver 388 00:19:54,126 --> 00:19:57,330 their answers by rote. 389 00:19:57,430 --> 00:20:00,633 TOM VAUGHN: Brendan whispered up the answer to me 390 00:20:00,733 --> 00:20:03,069 and once again, he saved my life there 391 00:20:03,169 --> 00:20:05,305 because I'm certain that I would have been in serious trouble 392 00:20:05,405 --> 00:20:07,006 had I not had that simple answer. 393 00:20:07,106 --> 00:20:10,009 So we could love and serve him. 394 00:20:10,109 --> 00:20:12,879 Perfect. 395 00:20:12,979 --> 00:20:14,881 Know what this is? 396 00:20:14,981 --> 00:20:15,982 A rock. 397 00:20:16,082 --> 00:20:18,751 No, a piece of the Blarney Stone. 398 00:20:18,851 --> 00:20:20,219 What's a Blarney Stone? 399 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:24,524 It's a magic rock high up on the castle wall in Ireland. 400 00:20:24,624 --> 00:20:28,127 And if you kiss it, you have good luck. 401 00:20:28,227 --> 00:20:32,231 TOM VAUGHN: This constant cajoling by Brendan 402 00:20:32,332 --> 00:20:35,635 put a perspective on where we were 403 00:20:35,735 --> 00:20:37,069 and the fact that it wasn't so bad. 404 00:20:37,169 --> 00:20:40,673 I mean, the treatment there was wonderful. 405 00:20:40,773 --> 00:20:44,577 He began to draw me towards that perspective of what 406 00:20:44,677 --> 00:20:46,379 was actually going on there and that it 407 00:20:46,479 --> 00:20:47,614 was kind of a fun place. 408 00:20:47,714 --> 00:20:53,019 So he really from a therapeutic standpoint 409 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,456 showed me the way to overcome my depression. 410 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:00,693 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): A year and a half 411 00:21:00,793 --> 00:21:04,864 after Tom and Brendan met, the inevitable happened. 412 00:21:04,964 --> 00:21:05,832 What are you doing? 413 00:21:05,932 --> 00:21:08,267 I'm packing my suitcase. 414 00:21:08,368 --> 00:21:10,236 Why? 415 00:21:10,337 --> 00:21:13,673 Sister said to get ready to leave, pack my suitcase 416 00:21:13,773 --> 00:21:16,108 and get ready to leave. 417 00:21:16,208 --> 00:21:18,110 TOM VAUGHN: Brendan was very quiet 418 00:21:18,210 --> 00:21:21,348 because I think he was scared and afraid 419 00:21:21,448 --> 00:21:24,150 and didn't know where he was going or what was happening. 420 00:21:29,822 --> 00:21:32,825 I do remember Brendan walking down that long hall 421 00:21:32,925 --> 00:21:38,565 and wanting to run after him, but once again being paralyzed 422 00:21:38,665 --> 00:21:40,066 by my inability to do that. 423 00:21:40,166 --> 00:21:43,002 I mean, I just couldn't show that kind of emotion. 424 00:21:43,102 --> 00:21:44,837 You take care, you hear? 425 00:21:47,507 --> 00:21:48,641 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Eventually, 426 00:21:48,741 --> 00:21:50,443 Tom and his brother, Dick, were sent to live 427 00:21:50,543 --> 00:21:52,345 with their father in Montana. 428 00:21:52,445 --> 00:21:54,647 Their mother, Jean, whose problems had finally 429 00:21:54,747 --> 00:21:59,886 overwhelmed her, died in 1985. 430 00:21:59,986 --> 00:22:02,489 Tom Vaughn is now a successful investment banker 431 00:22:02,589 --> 00:22:05,157 in Colorado, happily married and the father 432 00:22:05,257 --> 00:22:07,760 of an 11-year-old daughter. 433 00:22:07,860 --> 00:22:10,329 Tom credits his young friend, Brendan, with changing 434 00:22:10,430 --> 00:22:14,434 his outlook and his life. 435 00:22:14,534 --> 00:22:22,909 There hasn't been a week go by in the last 36 years 436 00:22:23,009 --> 00:22:28,180 that I haven't thought of him. 437 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:29,649 Think you can get-- 438 00:22:29,749 --> 00:22:32,385 TOM VAUGHN: I didn't have an opportunity 439 00:22:32,485 --> 00:22:37,356 to tell him how much I appreciated what he did for me. 440 00:22:37,457 --> 00:22:40,960 And I think it's my turn to make him 441 00:22:41,060 --> 00:22:46,799 smile, perhaps to kiss that Blarney 442 00:22:46,899 --> 00:22:48,300 Stone just one more time. 443 00:22:54,741 --> 00:22:56,576 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Within minutes of our broadcast, 444 00:22:56,676 --> 00:22:58,711 Brendan Vaughan called our phone center from his home 445 00:22:58,811 --> 00:23:00,146 in New York. 446 00:23:00,246 --> 00:23:02,782 We connected him with Tom Vaughn in Denver 447 00:23:02,882 --> 00:23:06,252 and finally, Tom had his chance to say thank you. 448 00:23:06,352 --> 00:23:08,488 The two men agreed to meet in Manhattan on March 449 00:23:08,588 --> 00:23:14,527 6, 1994 at 8:30 AM sharp. 450 00:23:14,627 --> 00:23:17,897 Tom came outside early so he'd be there to greet Brendan, 451 00:23:17,997 --> 00:23:18,831 but Brendan-- 452 00:23:18,931 --> 00:23:20,867 same old Brendan-- surprised him. 453 00:23:23,836 --> 00:23:27,574 They told me [inaudible]. 454 00:23:27,674 --> 00:23:28,908 God almighty. 455 00:23:29,008 --> 00:23:30,810 God. Yeah. 456 00:23:30,910 --> 00:23:35,281 Well, relatively we're the same height, yeah. 457 00:23:35,381 --> 00:23:39,452 It seems like we haven't been apart. 458 00:23:39,552 --> 00:23:44,891 He still has the gregariousness and the power in his voice 459 00:23:44,991 --> 00:23:48,728 and still seems to have the same approach to things. 460 00:23:48,828 --> 00:23:51,430 So I don't think he's changed all that much. 461 00:23:51,531 --> 00:23:52,932 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Brendan had brought 462 00:23:53,032 --> 00:23:54,801 along his sister, Noreen. 463 00:23:54,901 --> 00:23:58,037 In the hotel lobby, they met Tom's wife and daughter. 464 00:23:58,137 --> 00:24:01,007 For Brendan, who is divorced and has no children, 465 00:24:01,107 --> 00:24:03,810 it was like finding a long lost family. 466 00:24:03,910 --> 00:24:05,244 Hello. 467 00:24:05,344 --> 00:24:06,546 It's really a nice feeling. 468 00:24:06,646 --> 00:24:09,415 I mean, I was really shocked. 469 00:24:09,516 --> 00:24:12,719 When you sit down and say, what have I done in my life and one 470 00:24:12,819 --> 00:24:15,988 day you know what have you accomplished and you can't say, 471 00:24:16,088 --> 00:24:19,358 well, I touched anybody's life, I haven't done anything. 472 00:24:19,458 --> 00:24:21,594 And then all of a sudden, this pops up, 473 00:24:21,694 --> 00:24:22,595 it's really flattering. 474 00:24:22,695 --> 00:24:23,496 It's really amazing. 475 00:24:26,265 --> 00:24:27,667 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Brendan and Noreen, 476 00:24:27,767 --> 00:24:29,736 who was also at the children's home, 477 00:24:29,836 --> 00:24:32,438 spent the morning reminiscing with Tom. 478 00:24:32,539 --> 00:24:35,174 It's hard to tell the nuns apart. 479 00:24:35,274 --> 00:24:37,176 Well, they didn't care as long as you went in the water. 480 00:24:37,276 --> 00:24:40,079 I was so bad that they were trying everything 481 00:24:40,179 --> 00:24:42,448 to try to get me to be good. 482 00:24:42,549 --> 00:24:45,284 TOM VAUGHN: As soon as we got into that conversation, 483 00:24:45,384 --> 00:24:47,987 it was like our last conversation 484 00:24:48,087 --> 00:24:51,390 had taken place the day before, so it was very nice. 485 00:24:51,490 --> 00:24:55,127 I'll be captain [inaudible],, you know, of the honor guard. 486 00:24:55,227 --> 00:24:56,996 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Finally, Tom's childhood wounds 487 00:24:57,096 --> 00:24:58,698 are beginning to heal. 488 00:24:58,798 --> 00:25:01,467 The two boys, best friends before they were separated 489 00:25:01,568 --> 00:25:04,937 more than 35 years ago, made an instant connection 490 00:25:05,037 --> 00:25:08,841 to their past and to one another. 491 00:25:08,941 --> 00:25:11,343 TOM VAUGHN: It's represented closure 492 00:25:11,443 --> 00:25:15,748 for a chapter in my life that had been very, very difficult. 493 00:25:15,848 --> 00:25:20,620 And so coming here, facing him, finding him, being here today 494 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,689 is a way to let go of that. 495 00:25:22,789 --> 00:25:25,558 And so I'm very pleased about that. 496 00:25:25,658 --> 00:25:27,426 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Tom Vaughn and Brendan Vaughan 497 00:25:27,526 --> 00:25:30,296 now hope they will hear from other alumni of the Lieutenant 498 00:25:30,396 --> 00:25:33,432 Joseph P. Kennedy, Jr Home for Children, 499 00:25:33,532 --> 00:25:36,402 the very children all now in their forties and fifties 500 00:25:36,502 --> 00:25:38,404 with whom they once shared so much. 501 00:25:43,075 --> 00:25:45,411 Next, a government scientist falls to his death 502 00:25:45,511 --> 00:25:46,913 from a hotel window. 503 00:25:47,013 --> 00:25:48,948 Was it suicide or murder? 504 00:26:00,993 --> 00:26:05,297 In the early morning hours of November 28, 1953, 505 00:26:05,397 --> 00:26:09,401 a crowd gathered outside of New York's Hotel Statler. 506 00:26:09,501 --> 00:26:11,337 A man had apparently jumped to his death 507 00:26:11,437 --> 00:26:13,572 from a 13th story window. 508 00:26:13,673 --> 00:26:16,008 The victim was later identified as a government 509 00:26:16,108 --> 00:26:17,509 scientist named Frank Olson. 510 00:26:22,782 --> 00:26:26,152 Frank Olson left behind a wife and three small children. 511 00:26:26,252 --> 00:26:28,020 His sons are now grown men and are 512 00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:29,789 still trying to find out what really 513 00:26:29,889 --> 00:26:32,224 happened to their father. 514 00:26:32,324 --> 00:26:34,426 Now in a final desperate appeal, they 515 00:26:34,526 --> 00:26:36,328 hope someone in our audience can help 516 00:26:36,428 --> 00:26:38,130 solve this baffling mystery. 517 00:26:41,067 --> 00:26:44,804 Frank Olson died at the height of the Cold War tensions. 518 00:26:44,904 --> 00:26:47,439 At the time, our leaders here in Washington, DC, 519 00:26:47,539 --> 00:26:49,776 faced the very real possibility that we might be 520 00:26:49,876 --> 00:26:52,078 attacked by the Soviet Union. 521 00:26:52,178 --> 00:26:54,413 Just an hour's drive from where I'm standing, 522 00:26:54,513 --> 00:26:56,248 the country's technological brain trust 523 00:26:56,348 --> 00:26:58,217 was working at a feverish pace to develop 524 00:26:58,317 --> 00:27:00,519 a new generation of weapons. 525 00:27:00,619 --> 00:27:03,890 Frank Olsen was heading one of these projects when he died. 526 00:27:03,990 --> 00:27:07,093 40 years later, the questions surrounding his death demand 527 00:27:07,193 --> 00:27:07,994 answers. 528 00:27:11,798 --> 00:27:15,201 Frank Olson worked at Fort Detrick, Maryland, headquarters 529 00:27:15,301 --> 00:27:18,170 for the military's Biological Warfare Research 530 00:27:18,270 --> 00:27:20,639 and Development Program. 531 00:27:20,740 --> 00:27:23,309 Frank was an expert in aerobiology, 532 00:27:23,409 --> 00:27:27,013 the delivery of deadly viruses and infectious microorganisms 533 00:27:27,113 --> 00:27:30,616 via sprays and aerosol cans. 534 00:27:30,717 --> 00:27:32,651 NILS OLSON: My father was a research scientist 535 00:27:32,752 --> 00:27:35,822 who was involved with germ warfare, 536 00:27:35,922 --> 00:27:37,957 associated with the Division, which 537 00:27:38,057 --> 00:27:40,126 stood for special operations. 538 00:27:40,226 --> 00:27:44,096 That was the most top secret kind of research that 539 00:27:44,196 --> 00:27:46,298 was done out at Fort Detrick. 540 00:27:46,398 --> 00:27:47,934 And some of that research was being done 541 00:27:48,034 --> 00:27:49,702 in coordination with the CIA. 542 00:27:52,338 --> 00:27:53,639 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): At Fort Detrick, 543 00:27:53,740 --> 00:27:55,674 Frank Olson earned the respect and admiration 544 00:27:55,775 --> 00:27:57,376 of his coworkers. 545 00:27:57,476 --> 00:28:01,748 Then in November of 1953, Frank went to a three-day conference 546 00:28:01,848 --> 00:28:06,352 with some of his colleagues and came home a changed man. 547 00:28:06,452 --> 00:28:08,721 The weekend after that meeting, my father 548 00:28:08,821 --> 00:28:10,389 was severely depressed. 549 00:28:10,489 --> 00:28:12,458 He felt that he had done something terribly wrong 550 00:28:12,558 --> 00:28:16,362 and he told my mother that he had done something wrong, 551 00:28:16,462 --> 00:28:17,663 but he couldn't tell her what. 552 00:28:17,764 --> 00:28:22,334 And she asked him whether or not he had broken security 553 00:28:22,434 --> 00:28:24,703 and he indicated that he would never do such a thing, 554 00:28:24,804 --> 00:28:28,707 but he felt that he had done something terribly wrong. 555 00:28:28,808 --> 00:28:30,676 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Frank's boss, Vincent Ruwett, 556 00:28:30,777 --> 00:28:32,979 told the Olson's he believed Frank was on the verge 557 00:28:33,079 --> 00:28:34,881 of a nervous breakdown. 558 00:28:34,981 --> 00:28:38,084 Just before Thanksgiving, Ruwett took Frank to New York 559 00:28:38,184 --> 00:28:39,151 for treatment. 560 00:28:42,521 --> 00:28:45,557 In New York, Frank shared a hotel room with Dr. Robert 561 00:28:45,657 --> 00:28:48,260 Lashbrook, a CIA scientist. 562 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,064 Nearly a week passed before Frank's family heard from him. 563 00:28:52,164 --> 00:28:53,399 Do me a favor? 564 00:28:53,499 --> 00:28:55,701 Would you kiss the kids for me? 565 00:28:55,802 --> 00:28:57,837 ERIC OLSON: My father seemed a little 566 00:28:57,937 --> 00:28:59,071 more peaceful than he had. 567 00:28:59,171 --> 00:29:02,074 He made a call to my mother to say he was all right. 568 00:29:02,174 --> 00:29:03,042 Bob, it's getting late. 569 00:29:03,142 --> 00:29:04,977 I'm going to turn the TV off. 570 00:29:05,077 --> 00:29:07,413 They went to sleep fairly early, about 11:00. 571 00:29:07,513 --> 00:29:09,916 And the next thing we know from Lashbrook 572 00:29:10,016 --> 00:29:13,452 is that he was awakened by the sound of crashing glass. 573 00:29:13,552 --> 00:29:14,854 [glass breaking] 574 00:29:17,089 --> 00:29:17,890 Frank? 575 00:29:29,435 --> 00:29:30,236 Oh my god. 576 00:29:33,339 --> 00:29:36,909 Frank Olson was dead at the age of 43. 577 00:29:37,009 --> 00:29:39,578 The investigators later determined that he had either 578 00:29:39,678 --> 00:29:41,413 jumped or fallen to his death. 579 00:29:44,650 --> 00:29:47,486 I remember as a nine-year-old and actually for years after 580 00:29:47,586 --> 00:29:50,990 that, I was completely stumped and dumbfounded by trying 581 00:29:51,090 --> 00:29:52,591 to resolve that alternative. 582 00:29:52,691 --> 00:29:54,994 There's a big difference between fall or jump 583 00:29:55,094 --> 00:29:56,562 and I couldn't understand how either of them 584 00:29:56,662 --> 00:29:57,463 could have occurred. 585 00:30:00,132 --> 00:30:01,934 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The Olsons weren't alone. 586 00:30:02,034 --> 00:30:05,637 The night manager of the hotel found Frank's death suspicious, 587 00:30:05,737 --> 00:30:07,339 as well. 588 00:30:07,439 --> 00:30:12,778 I rushed outside to find Frank Olson, eyes wide open, 589 00:30:12,879 --> 00:30:18,150 looking straight at me, trying to tell me something. 590 00:30:18,250 --> 00:30:19,085 OK. 591 00:30:19,185 --> 00:30:20,319 OK, buddy. 592 00:30:20,419 --> 00:30:21,687 ARMOND PASTORE: He was definitely trying to speak, 593 00:30:21,787 --> 00:30:25,691 but there was nothing coming out but grumbles. 594 00:30:25,791 --> 00:30:29,261 He was in terrible condition. 595 00:30:29,361 --> 00:30:32,631 And by this time, then the ambulance came 596 00:30:32,731 --> 00:30:35,734 and I stepped back because now I had 597 00:30:35,834 --> 00:30:38,737 to find out where he came from. 598 00:30:38,837 --> 00:30:42,274 So I looked up the building and finally I saw a little movement 599 00:30:42,374 --> 00:30:44,843 out of a window shade. 600 00:30:44,944 --> 00:30:46,913 Then when I concentrated on that, 601 00:30:47,013 --> 00:30:49,681 then I see that the window shade was 602 00:30:49,781 --> 00:30:52,885 stuck through a broken window. 603 00:30:52,985 --> 00:30:54,954 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Armond Pastore I immediately 604 00:30:55,054 --> 00:30:58,857 took the police to room 1019A. 605 00:30:58,958 --> 00:31:01,227 ARMOND PASTORE: And here is Lashbrook sitting 606 00:31:01,327 --> 00:31:03,629 on the john in his skivvies. 607 00:31:03,729 --> 00:31:07,399 Then the police start to question him 608 00:31:07,499 --> 00:31:09,969 and I heard him say, well, all I heard was a crash. 609 00:31:13,605 --> 00:31:17,143 I walked around the room to look around. 610 00:31:17,243 --> 00:31:18,710 Look at this in here. 611 00:31:18,810 --> 00:31:20,579 ERIC OLSON: Nobody ever jumps through a window. 612 00:31:20,679 --> 00:31:25,317 They open the window and they go out, not dash through a shade 613 00:31:25,417 --> 00:31:28,554 and a sheer drape. 614 00:31:28,654 --> 00:31:29,588 There's no sense to that. 615 00:31:32,324 --> 00:31:33,359 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): 22 years 616 00:31:33,459 --> 00:31:35,527 would pass before Frank Olson's family 617 00:31:35,627 --> 00:31:38,030 hurt Armond Pastore's account. 618 00:31:38,130 --> 00:31:40,866 All they were told in 1953 was that Frank 619 00:31:40,967 --> 00:31:43,435 had suffered a nervous breakdown and committed suicide. 620 00:31:46,205 --> 00:31:49,141 Then in 1975, a government commission 621 00:31:49,241 --> 00:31:54,313 was formed to investigate past abuses committed by the CIA. 622 00:31:54,413 --> 00:31:56,682 Among other incidents, the official report 623 00:31:56,782 --> 00:31:58,717 made mention of a scientist who had plunged 624 00:31:58,817 --> 00:32:01,687 to his death from a hotel room 10 days 625 00:32:01,787 --> 00:32:04,356 after being dosed with LSD. 626 00:32:04,456 --> 00:32:08,827 That scientist turned out to be Frank Olson. 627 00:32:08,927 --> 00:32:11,230 Over the next year and a half, the Olson family 628 00:32:11,330 --> 00:32:13,499 received a formal apology from President 629 00:32:13,599 --> 00:32:18,570 Gerald Ford and a check from the government for $750,000. 630 00:32:18,670 --> 00:32:24,376 They Olsons also met with then CIA Chief William Colby. 631 00:32:24,476 --> 00:32:27,746 As a result of the meeting with William Colby at the CIA, 632 00:32:27,846 --> 00:32:30,716 we were given what was supposedly a complete set 633 00:32:30,816 --> 00:32:36,088 of documents relating to the events of the last nine days 634 00:32:36,188 --> 00:32:37,689 of my father's life. 635 00:32:37,789 --> 00:32:40,526 I should have the results back on the toxicology tests-- 636 00:32:40,626 --> 00:32:43,462 NILS OLSON: We learned that he had gone to a retreat in Deep 637 00:32:43,562 --> 00:32:46,532 Creek Lake, in western Maryland, with a group 638 00:32:46,632 --> 00:32:48,900 of other scientists. 639 00:32:49,001 --> 00:32:52,404 The principle of the meeting was that they were going to be 640 00:32:52,504 --> 00:32:54,306 discussing ongoing research. 641 00:32:54,406 --> 00:32:57,043 But in fact, there were agents in the CIA 642 00:32:57,143 --> 00:33:00,046 who were meeting with them who decided that they were going 643 00:33:00,146 --> 00:33:04,816 to give them each a dose of LSD without their knowledge 644 00:33:04,916 --> 00:33:07,586 or consent and then see what their reaction was. 645 00:33:12,791 --> 00:33:14,760 Anyone for a drink? 646 00:33:14,860 --> 00:33:17,429 The Olsons learned that the LSD was slipped into an after 647 00:33:17,529 --> 00:33:20,066 dinner liqueur by either Sidney Gottlieb, 648 00:33:20,166 --> 00:33:22,968 head of the CIA's Technical Services staff, 649 00:33:23,069 --> 00:33:26,438 or his deputy, Dr. Robert Lashbrook. 650 00:33:26,538 --> 00:33:28,240 Help yourself. 651 00:33:28,340 --> 00:33:29,941 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The CIA reportedly feared 652 00:33:30,042 --> 00:33:31,877 that the Soviet Union might employ 653 00:33:31,977 --> 00:33:37,849 LSD to produce anxiety or terror in captured CIA agents. 654 00:33:37,949 --> 00:33:39,985 Gottlieb believed that his test would 655 00:33:40,086 --> 00:33:43,822 help prepare American operatives for that eventuality. 656 00:33:43,922 --> 00:33:44,723 Thank you, Sidney. 657 00:33:44,823 --> 00:33:46,125 Just what I needed. 658 00:33:46,225 --> 00:33:47,926 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The laced drinks were served eight 659 00:33:48,026 --> 00:33:49,595 of the 10 scientists present. 660 00:33:49,695 --> 00:33:51,963 Some of them, including Frank Olson, 661 00:33:52,064 --> 00:33:54,066 were not told about the test. 662 00:33:54,166 --> 00:33:55,334 --fish the first day we were there. 663 00:33:57,969 --> 00:33:59,238 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Within an hour, 664 00:33:59,338 --> 00:34:01,307 the LSD began to take effect. 665 00:34:09,881 --> 00:34:12,784 Dude, the most wonderful thing. 666 00:34:22,828 --> 00:34:23,862 Gentlemen? 667 00:34:23,962 --> 00:34:27,799 Gentlemen, are we all feeling a bit strange? 668 00:34:27,899 --> 00:34:29,401 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): When Gottlieb informed 669 00:34:29,501 --> 00:34:31,537 the drug-induced gathering that their drinks 670 00:34:31,637 --> 00:34:35,374 had been spiked with LSD, Frank Olson became incensed. 671 00:34:35,474 --> 00:34:36,442 What? 672 00:34:36,542 --> 00:34:37,376 Wait a minute, you did what? 673 00:34:37,476 --> 00:34:38,577 We're having an experiment here. 674 00:34:38,677 --> 00:34:40,011 You put a drug in our drinks. 675 00:34:40,112 --> 00:34:41,046 Yes, yes. 676 00:34:41,147 --> 00:34:43,014 We're in the middle of an experiment. 677 00:34:43,115 --> 00:34:46,185 NILS OLSON: We understood that my father was quite agitated 678 00:34:46,285 --> 00:34:50,522 and was having serious confusion with separating 679 00:34:50,622 --> 00:34:52,724 reality from fantasy. 680 00:34:55,794 --> 00:34:57,529 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Less than a week later, Frank 681 00:34:57,629 --> 00:34:59,631 made his ill-fated trip to New York, 682 00:34:59,731 --> 00:35:03,535 supposedly suffering from a nervous breakdown. 683 00:35:03,635 --> 00:35:05,637 Well, Frank, how are you feeling today? 684 00:35:05,737 --> 00:35:07,038 I feel lousy, doctor. 685 00:35:07,139 --> 00:35:08,407 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Frank was taken 686 00:35:08,507 --> 00:35:11,377 to see Dr. Harold Abramson, an LSD expert who worked 687 00:35:11,477 --> 00:35:13,245 extensively with the CIA. 688 00:35:13,345 --> 00:35:14,946 It's been continuing for about a week now. 689 00:35:15,046 --> 00:35:16,148 Look at me, please. 690 00:35:16,248 --> 00:35:17,683 You were saying that you weren't resting very well. 691 00:35:17,783 --> 00:35:18,684 Is that improving? 692 00:35:18,784 --> 00:35:20,051 No, I'm not resting, I haven't been 693 00:35:20,152 --> 00:35:21,187 able to sleep for over a week. 694 00:35:21,287 --> 00:35:22,654 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Accompanying Frank 695 00:35:22,754 --> 00:35:26,458 were Robert Lashbrook and Frank's boss, Vincent Ruwett. 696 00:35:26,558 --> 00:35:27,359 Frank, sit down. 697 00:35:27,459 --> 00:35:28,394 I don't want to sit down. 698 00:35:28,494 --> 00:35:29,628 I can't sit down. 699 00:35:29,728 --> 00:35:31,363 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Frank remained in New York 700 00:35:31,463 --> 00:35:33,765 and over the next several days made repeated 701 00:35:33,865 --> 00:35:35,967 visits to the doctor's office. 702 00:35:36,067 --> 00:35:38,404 Someone has been following me. 703 00:35:38,504 --> 00:35:39,771 ERIC OLSON: From the documents we have, 704 00:35:39,871 --> 00:35:41,640 it's impossible to deduce what was 705 00:35:41,740 --> 00:35:43,175 accomplished in those meetings. 706 00:35:43,275 --> 00:35:46,111 And you certainly don't see any indication that a treatment 707 00:35:46,212 --> 00:35:48,247 process was occurring. 708 00:35:48,347 --> 00:35:50,982 You can suspect that some kind of assessment process 709 00:35:51,082 --> 00:35:52,984 was going on, the purpose of which 710 00:35:53,084 --> 00:35:56,655 was more to protect the CIA's interests 711 00:35:56,755 --> 00:35:59,691 than it was to help my father. 712 00:35:59,791 --> 00:36:00,926 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Apparently, 713 00:36:01,026 --> 00:36:03,362 the pattern continued in the immediate aftermath 714 00:36:03,462 --> 00:36:04,796 of Frank's death. 715 00:36:04,896 --> 00:36:07,466 For some unexplained reason, Robert Lashbrook 716 00:36:07,566 --> 00:36:09,535 never phoned for help. 717 00:36:09,635 --> 00:36:12,338 However, he allegedly did make a disturbing call 718 00:36:12,438 --> 00:36:15,173 which was overheard by the hotel operator. 719 00:36:15,274 --> 00:36:16,642 [switchboard ringing] 720 00:36:20,212 --> 00:36:24,216 ARMOND PASTORE: In those days, all the calls were manual. 721 00:36:24,316 --> 00:36:27,653 You called the operator and you told her what number you want 722 00:36:27,753 --> 00:36:29,621 and she would dial it for you. 723 00:36:29,721 --> 00:36:32,324 Then she'd listen to see that you got connected. 724 00:36:38,964 --> 00:36:42,167 When the man in the room called this number, 725 00:36:42,268 --> 00:36:45,136 he said, well, he's gone. 726 00:36:45,237 --> 00:36:48,940 And the man on the other end said, well, that's too bad. 727 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,377 And they both hung up. 728 00:36:51,477 --> 00:36:53,512 I mean, what's more suspicious than that? 729 00:36:53,612 --> 00:36:56,348 You don't have to be a genius to figure out 730 00:36:56,448 --> 00:36:58,850 that there's something amiss. 731 00:36:58,950 --> 00:37:02,988 Who said, Hamlet said, there's something rotten in Denmark? 732 00:37:03,088 --> 00:37:05,491 I mean, I knew there was something rotten 733 00:37:05,591 --> 00:37:08,494 at the Pennsylvania hotel that night. 734 00:37:08,594 --> 00:37:10,128 I'd like to emphasize at the beginning 735 00:37:10,228 --> 00:37:11,297 that there are many things that we 736 00:37:11,397 --> 00:37:13,565 still don't know about the events 737 00:37:13,665 --> 00:37:14,800 surrounding my father's death. 738 00:37:14,900 --> 00:37:16,302 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): When the news first 739 00:37:16,402 --> 00:37:18,904 broke about Frank's suicide, Armand Pastore 740 00:37:19,004 --> 00:37:21,206 contacted the Olson family and told them 741 00:37:21,307 --> 00:37:23,575 about the mysterious phone call. 742 00:37:23,675 --> 00:37:26,712 The Olsons immediately began to suspect that Frank 743 00:37:26,812 --> 00:37:29,715 had not taken his own life. 744 00:37:29,815 --> 00:37:32,784 I believe that what happened was that my father was 745 00:37:32,884 --> 00:37:37,889 considered a security risk, that the CIA either formally 746 00:37:37,989 --> 00:37:41,560 or informally decided that it was in the country's 747 00:37:41,660 --> 00:37:44,896 or in the agency's best interests to have my father 748 00:37:44,996 --> 00:37:49,200 either take his own life or that he needed to be eliminated. 749 00:37:49,301 --> 00:37:50,869 I'm going to do everything that you 750 00:37:50,969 --> 00:37:53,104 tell me to do, I promise you. 751 00:37:53,204 --> 00:37:54,806 NILS OLSON: One of the nights that my father was up 752 00:37:54,906 --> 00:37:57,175 in New York, he was having delusions 753 00:37:57,275 --> 00:37:59,110 that he was hearing voices. 754 00:37:59,210 --> 00:38:00,779 And in the middle of the night, he 755 00:38:00,879 --> 00:38:04,516 woke up and went and threw all his identification 756 00:38:04,616 --> 00:38:06,017 out and his money. 757 00:38:06,117 --> 00:38:07,285 All right. 758 00:38:07,386 --> 00:38:10,088 Get rid of all of my money and my identification. 759 00:38:10,188 --> 00:38:11,557 OK. 760 00:38:11,657 --> 00:38:13,559 You have to see that as an obvious sign 761 00:38:13,659 --> 00:38:15,894 of a suicidal tendency. 762 00:38:15,994 --> 00:38:21,367 Well, to keep my father in a 10th floor room, which actually 763 00:38:21,467 --> 00:38:25,437 was 13 storeys off the ground, to me is the epitome 764 00:38:25,537 --> 00:38:26,638 of irresponsibility. 765 00:38:29,508 --> 00:38:33,512 In 1993, Frank's widow, Alice, passed away. 766 00:38:33,612 --> 00:38:38,216 Eric and Nils had their father's body moved to rest beside her. 767 00:38:38,316 --> 00:38:40,519 But before Frank was reinterred, they 768 00:38:40,619 --> 00:38:42,654 asked forensic scientist Professor James 769 00:38:42,754 --> 00:38:46,625 Starrs to perform an autopsy. 770 00:38:46,725 --> 00:38:48,527 Quite frankly, we had no idea what 771 00:38:48,627 --> 00:38:52,531 the condition of the remains would be after 41 years. 772 00:38:52,631 --> 00:38:55,133 We were delighted that the remains 773 00:38:55,233 --> 00:38:59,871 were in perfect condition for our analysis. 774 00:38:59,971 --> 00:39:01,006 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): As part 775 00:39:01,106 --> 00:39:03,709 of his overall investigation, Professor Starrs 776 00:39:03,809 --> 00:39:05,677 and his colleagues went to the old Hotel 777 00:39:05,777 --> 00:39:10,048 Statler, which is now known as the Hotel Pennsylvania. 778 00:39:10,148 --> 00:39:12,484 The first thing that Professor Starrs looked for 779 00:39:12,584 --> 00:39:14,686 was evidence that Frank had, indeed, 780 00:39:14,786 --> 00:39:15,987 smashed through a window. 781 00:39:18,690 --> 00:39:19,958 The medical examiner in New York 782 00:39:20,058 --> 00:39:23,795 who did an external examination back in 1953 783 00:39:23,895 --> 00:39:25,597 said there were multiple lacerations 784 00:39:25,697 --> 00:39:26,732 on the face and neck. 785 00:39:26,832 --> 00:39:28,434 There were none. 786 00:39:28,534 --> 00:39:30,268 I mean, zero. 787 00:39:30,368 --> 00:39:33,038 Soon after that finding was made public, 788 00:39:33,138 --> 00:39:36,174 Lashbrook changes his story which he's held to for 40 years 789 00:39:36,274 --> 00:39:37,776 and suddenly now starts saying that he 790 00:39:37,876 --> 00:39:39,511 can't remember whether the window, in fact, 791 00:39:39,611 --> 00:39:41,046 was open or closed. 792 00:39:41,146 --> 00:39:43,615 The window was completely gone. 793 00:39:43,715 --> 00:39:46,718 There was little glass around it on the fringes 794 00:39:46,818 --> 00:39:50,889 and the shade was stuck out through the glass. 795 00:39:50,989 --> 00:39:54,593 At some point, he had to hit some glass. 796 00:39:54,693 --> 00:39:57,663 I cannot believe that he wouldn't have gotten cuts 797 00:39:57,763 --> 00:40:00,365 in the lower extremities of his body-- 798 00:40:00,466 --> 00:40:02,367 on the front of the legs. 799 00:40:02,468 --> 00:40:05,136 We don't find any cuts. 800 00:40:05,236 --> 00:40:06,505 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Professor Starrs 801 00:40:06,605 --> 00:40:08,306 did find that Frank had sustained 802 00:40:08,406 --> 00:40:13,244 extensive injuries to his head, chest, and right leg. 803 00:40:13,344 --> 00:40:16,515 When you have fractures as massive 804 00:40:16,615 --> 00:40:21,086 and in different locations as these fractures clearly are, 805 00:40:21,186 --> 00:40:22,588 they indicate a tremendous amount 806 00:40:22,688 --> 00:40:25,423 of force that caused those. 807 00:40:25,524 --> 00:40:29,027 Well, clearly, he was falling from the building. 808 00:40:29,127 --> 00:40:31,763 If he struck his foot and that caused the massive injuries, 809 00:40:31,863 --> 00:40:33,131 the question for us is, well, how 810 00:40:33,231 --> 00:40:35,734 did he get the massive injuries on his chest? 811 00:40:35,834 --> 00:40:38,837 If he hit his chest, well, how did he get the massive injuries 812 00:40:38,937 --> 00:40:40,338 on his foot? 813 00:40:40,438 --> 00:40:43,675 If it was a glancing blow against an abutment on the way 814 00:40:43,775 --> 00:40:47,546 down, the likelihood of his having 815 00:40:47,646 --> 00:40:50,516 the massive injuries from a glancing blow is very remote. 816 00:40:53,619 --> 00:40:56,221 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): What happened to Frank Olson? 817 00:40:56,321 --> 00:40:58,824 Professor Starr's analysis is not yet complete, 818 00:40:58,924 --> 00:41:02,093 but his preliminary findings paint a disturbing scenario. 819 00:41:02,193 --> 00:41:03,695 It's getting worse. 820 00:41:03,795 --> 00:41:06,665 Clearly, in this case there is foul play 821 00:41:06,765 --> 00:41:10,969 on the part of the CIA in giving him LSD in the first place 822 00:41:11,069 --> 00:41:14,105 and making a guinea pig out of the way they did. 823 00:41:14,205 --> 00:41:17,909 But foul play of the homicide type, that's 824 00:41:18,009 --> 00:41:20,512 what we're in this business to try to find out. 825 00:41:20,612 --> 00:41:24,916 As I say, the evidence is beginning to mount. 826 00:41:25,016 --> 00:41:28,754 I looked at this case for 14 months 827 00:41:28,854 --> 00:41:31,723 and I found no evidence that points directly to murder. 828 00:41:31,823 --> 00:41:34,560 I don't rule it out, but I found no evidence that would indicate 829 00:41:34,660 --> 00:41:37,095 to me that that would happen. 830 00:41:37,195 --> 00:41:39,430 And I have to tell you it seems unlikely to me 831 00:41:39,531 --> 00:41:42,500 that the CIA people in the context the 1950s 832 00:41:42,601 --> 00:41:44,102 would have killed a colleague. 833 00:41:44,202 --> 00:41:46,672 I can see them doing something like this against a Soviet 834 00:41:46,772 --> 00:41:49,307 or an enemy, but not a colleague. 835 00:41:49,407 --> 00:41:52,811 I think the Olson case must be resolved. 836 00:41:52,911 --> 00:41:54,512 That family deserves to know and I 837 00:41:54,613 --> 00:41:56,548 think the American people now deserve to know 838 00:41:56,648 --> 00:41:57,883 the truth of what happened. 839 00:41:57,983 --> 00:41:59,818 It's been a long time ago, they don't have to hide behind 840 00:41:59,918 --> 00:42:02,187 their classified documents, behind all 841 00:42:02,287 --> 00:42:05,757 of their stealth information, and their sleazy little James 842 00:42:05,857 --> 00:42:07,125 Bond stories. 843 00:42:07,225 --> 00:42:09,360 Tell us what happened to Frank Olson. 844 00:42:12,030 --> 00:42:13,464 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Congressman Traficant 845 00:42:13,565 --> 00:42:15,834 is now calling for an official investigation 846 00:42:15,934 --> 00:42:18,203 into the death of Frank Olson. 847 00:42:18,303 --> 00:42:20,972 Perhaps after more than 40 years of secrecy, 848 00:42:21,072 --> 00:42:23,609 the true story behind this Cold War mystery 849 00:42:23,709 --> 00:42:24,876 will finally be told. 850 00:42:50,936 --> 00:42:54,105 When we return, the dramatic capture of a man 851 00:42:54,205 --> 00:42:55,140 suspected of murder. 852 00:43:03,815 --> 00:43:06,517 April 24th, 1994. 853 00:43:06,618 --> 00:43:08,920 Along the Christina River in Delaware, 854 00:43:09,020 --> 00:43:11,589 authorities close in on a dangerous fugitive 855 00:43:11,690 --> 00:43:13,424 who has been wanted on murder charges 856 00:43:13,524 --> 00:43:14,626 for more than six years. 857 00:43:18,496 --> 00:43:20,866 The suspect is 38-year-old Larry Donald 858 00:43:20,966 --> 00:43:23,434 George, a former Army enlisted man 859 00:43:23,534 --> 00:43:25,470 and self-styled survivalist. 860 00:43:25,570 --> 00:43:28,273 You know you're not supposed to be here. 861 00:43:28,373 --> 00:43:29,574 Where you been? 862 00:43:29,675 --> 00:43:30,809 That's none of your business. 863 00:43:30,909 --> 00:43:33,178 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): On February 12th, 1988, 864 00:43:33,278 --> 00:43:36,414 George confronted his estranged wife, Geraldine, at her home 865 00:43:36,514 --> 00:43:38,316 in Talladega, Alabama. 866 00:43:38,416 --> 00:43:39,918 You're gonna listen to me. 867 00:43:40,018 --> 00:43:41,186 You're gonna listen to me. 868 00:43:44,189 --> 00:43:45,256 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Geraldine 869 00:43:45,356 --> 00:43:47,225 ran next door for help. 870 00:43:47,325 --> 00:43:49,560 Larry George followed. 871 00:43:49,661 --> 00:43:50,461 [gunshot] 872 00:43:52,831 --> 00:43:54,532 Geraldine's neighbor, Janice Morris, 873 00:43:54,632 --> 00:43:56,601 was shot once in the chest. 874 00:43:56,702 --> 00:43:58,236 Larry, please stop. 875 00:43:58,336 --> 00:44:00,105 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Next, Larry allegedly took aim 876 00:44:00,205 --> 00:44:01,172 at Geraldine. [gunshot] 877 00:44:01,272 --> 00:44:02,941 - Janice? 878 00:44:03,041 --> 00:44:04,442 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Janice's boyfriend, 879 00:44:04,542 --> 00:44:06,878 Ralph Swain, heard the commotion and ran downstairs. 880 00:44:09,547 --> 00:44:10,348 [gunshot] 881 00:44:11,582 --> 00:44:13,451 Ralph Swain was shot in the back of the head. 882 00:44:19,057 --> 00:44:22,127 Janice Morris was pronounced dead at the scene. 883 00:44:22,227 --> 00:44:24,696 Ralph Swain was rushed to a local hospital 884 00:44:24,796 --> 00:44:26,397 where he died a short time later. 885 00:44:29,134 --> 00:44:31,136 Geraldine George survived the shooting 886 00:44:31,236 --> 00:44:34,339 but was left paralyzed from the waist down. 887 00:44:34,439 --> 00:44:37,208 For more than six years, she lived with the bitter knowledge 888 00:44:37,308 --> 00:44:38,877 that her husband was still at large. 889 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,082 After the most recent broadcast of this story, 890 00:44:44,182 --> 00:44:46,051 the authorities were contacted by an "Unsolved 891 00:44:46,151 --> 00:44:47,919 Mysteries" viewer. 892 00:44:48,019 --> 00:44:50,021 The viewer claimed to have seen Larry George 893 00:44:50,121 --> 00:44:51,990 fishing on the banks of the Christina River 894 00:44:52,090 --> 00:44:53,825 in Wilmington, Delaware. 895 00:44:53,925 --> 00:44:56,094 Three days later, two police detectives 896 00:44:56,194 --> 00:44:57,228 were dispatched to the area. 897 00:45:00,732 --> 00:45:03,001 For our cameras, the officers recounted 898 00:45:03,101 --> 00:45:06,137 their dramatic meeting with Larry George. 899 00:45:06,237 --> 00:45:07,538 This is where we first encountered 900 00:45:07,638 --> 00:45:09,440 Larry George at, right here. 901 00:45:09,540 --> 00:45:12,077 We began a conversation with him about fishing. 902 00:45:12,177 --> 00:45:13,578 At this time, he wanted to take us over 903 00:45:13,678 --> 00:45:15,380 here to where his pole was in the water 904 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,349 and show us exactly where he was fishing at. 905 00:45:18,449 --> 00:45:21,619 We got about here and we started talking again about fishing. 906 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,855 And it was at this time where myself and Detective Pinkett 907 00:45:23,955 --> 00:45:26,591 made eye contact and I identified myself 908 00:45:26,691 --> 00:45:28,159 as a police officer to Larry. 909 00:45:28,259 --> 00:45:31,797 At this time, a brief struggle ensued right about here. 910 00:45:31,897 --> 00:45:34,565 We all three fell to the ground here. 911 00:45:34,665 --> 00:45:36,768 We got back to our feet still struggling, 912 00:45:36,868 --> 00:45:39,938 and at that point we just turned and threw Larry into the water. 913 00:45:42,673 --> 00:45:44,375 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): While the officers regrouped, 914 00:45:44,475 --> 00:45:46,778 George attempted to flee downriver. 915 00:45:46,878 --> 00:45:48,914 But backup units quickly cornered him 916 00:45:49,014 --> 00:45:50,782 and he surrendered without further struggle. 917 00:45:57,188 --> 00:45:58,857 At George's campsite, police found 918 00:45:58,957 --> 00:46:01,559 a makeshift bunker, complete with generator, 919 00:46:01,659 --> 00:46:04,462 heater, television, and stove. 920 00:46:04,562 --> 00:46:07,032 The subsequent discovery of several weapons, 921 00:46:07,132 --> 00:46:09,868 including a spear gun and a sawed-off shotgun, 922 00:46:09,968 --> 00:46:11,937 led investigators to believe that George 923 00:46:12,037 --> 00:46:13,771 had been prepared to resist arrest 924 00:46:13,872 --> 00:46:17,108 by whatever means necessary. 925 00:46:17,208 --> 00:46:18,743 He knew he was wanted for murder. 926 00:46:18,844 --> 00:46:20,211 He wasn't going to be taken alive. 927 00:46:20,311 --> 00:46:23,014 If he would have put himself in his hideout 928 00:46:23,114 --> 00:46:25,150 and if we'd have discovered, he probably 929 00:46:25,250 --> 00:46:30,455 would have had gunfire and officers would have been hurt. 930 00:46:30,555 --> 00:46:33,024 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): On April 27, 1994, 931 00:46:33,124 --> 00:46:35,093 Larry Donald George was extradited 932 00:46:35,193 --> 00:46:39,430 to Alabama to face charges of murder and attempted murder. 933 00:46:39,530 --> 00:46:42,333 It was a long-awaited moment for Geraldine Jones 934 00:46:42,433 --> 00:46:46,604 and the families of Ralph Swain and Janice Morris. 935 00:46:46,704 --> 00:46:48,373 They're delighted that this is kind 936 00:46:48,473 --> 00:46:49,707 of bringing this to an end. 937 00:46:49,807 --> 00:46:52,310 And I can understand their feelings about the situation 938 00:46:52,410 --> 00:46:54,846 simply because it's been a long six years 939 00:46:54,946 --> 00:46:56,948 and really not knowing where he is 940 00:46:57,048 --> 00:46:59,317 and if he would show back up. 941 00:46:59,417 --> 00:47:01,586 I'm sure that that brought a lot of discomfort and a lot 942 00:47:01,686 --> 00:47:02,653 sleepless nights to them. 943 00:47:02,753 --> 00:47:05,690 So I know that they're very happy that this 944 00:47:05,790 --> 00:47:07,458 is short of being drawn to a close. 945 00:47:30,715 --> 00:47:31,716 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Join me 946 00:47:31,816 --> 00:47:34,652 next Sunday for another fascinating edition 947 00:47:34,752 --> 00:47:35,887 of "Unsolved Mysteries." 948 00:47:35,987 --> 00:47:38,656 [theme music] 74500

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