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ANNOUNCER: This program is
about unsolved mysteries.
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Whenever possible, the
actual family members
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and police officials
have participated
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in recreating the events.
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What you are about to see
is not a news broadcast.
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Tonight, on the
season premiere
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of "Unsolved Mysteries."
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Under hypnosis, Bruce Kelly
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was overwhelmed by vivid images
of American sailor's death
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during World War II.
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Later, he was amazed to
learn that his vision
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of a sinking of a
submarine actually
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took place 50 years earlier.
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How could Bruce Kelly
relive inaccurate detail
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events that took place
before he was even born?
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After a killer tornado rips
through Woodward, Oklahoma,
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the town's residents
flee to a local hospital.
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The scene is chaos and
one of the survivors,
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a young girl named
Joan Gay Croft,
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is carried off by two strangers.
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More than 40 years later,
she is still missing.
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Pedro Santiago, Jr. was his
family's pride and joy--
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popular, athletic,
a good student.
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Then on December 12,
1990, Pedro was struck
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by a car in front of his house.
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The driver callously fled the
scene, leaving Pedro to die.
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Join me for our
dramatic season premiere.
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Perhaps you may be able
to help solve a mystery.
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[theme music]
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What are you afraid of--
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the dark, flying, heights?
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Many of us harbor at least
one secret irrational fear,
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a phobia.
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Sometimes when the
phobia is serious enough
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to disrupt normal functioning,
we will do almost anything
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to regain control of our lives.
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For a man named Bruce Kelly,
the attempt to cure his phobias
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took him to places he
could never have imagined.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Bruce Kelly
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grew up in Glendora,
California, a small town
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just outside Los Angeles.
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Bruce was a natural
athlete who went to college
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on a full baseball scholarship.
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Bruce eventually
became a sales manager
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for a medical supply firm.
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He married, divorced,
and as a single parent
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raised his only daughter.
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Through it all, Bruce
had been plagued
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by overpowering phobias--
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a fear of flying and enclosed
spaces which he believed
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hampered his career and
a fear of water which
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was just plain bothersome.
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Anytime that I got
around a swimming pool,
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I would be afraid to even go
close to the edge of the pool.
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I would just walk way around it.
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It even was to the
point bad enough where
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I couldn't sit in a bathtub.
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I didn't like the feeling of
the water coming up around me.
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I'm going to count
from three down to one.
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When I get to the number one,
you're going to be deep--
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Over the years,
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Bruce had sought help
from several different
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medical professionals.
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Nothing worked.
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Finally in desperation, he went
to Rick Brown, a hypnotherapist
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who specializes in an unusual
and controversial technique
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known as past life regression.
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--this morning.
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On the number three,
you're going there now.
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On the next number, two,
you become a part of it.
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On one, you're there.
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When I was seeing what I
was seeing and I said to him,
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this can't be real, his
direction at the time
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was, just go with it.
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Probably 99% of the
people who come to me
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do not go into past lives.
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Probably only 1% of the people
have spontaneous regressions
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when working with
phobias, and Bruce
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did have a spontaneous
regression to a past life.
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RICK BROWN: Where are you?
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I'm in a submarine.
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RICK BROWN: What's happening?
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BRUCE KELLY: I'm drowning.
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Bruce was writhing
in that chair.
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He was actually moving
around and going
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through the death scene.
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Tell me your name.
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Johnston.
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RICK BROWN: What
is your full name?
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James Edward Johnston.
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James Edward Johnston--
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The hypnosis session
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had taken an intriguing turn.
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Bruce Kelly had
apparently been thrust
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into the life of an
American sailor named
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James Edward Johnston,
recalling specific detail that
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seemed astonishing.
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RICK BROWN: What's going on?
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Bruce said that Johnston
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had drowned in a
submarine, the "USS Shark,"
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during World War II.
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Bruce also said the "Shark"
had gone down near Borneo, just
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off an island called Celebes.
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RICK BROWN: Are you
alone in this hallway?
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BRUCE KELLY: No.
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There's another
man in the hallway.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Bruce even came up
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with the name of a man trapped
with Johnston in the submarine,
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Walter Pilgrim.
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Everything goes blank
and there's the sense
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that something's really wrong.
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There's water coming in.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Bruce told Rick Brown
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that Johnson and Pilgrim
had both died at precisely
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11:34 PM, February 11, 1942.
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BRUCE KELLY: Are
there any survivors?
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No.
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The memories were just
like it was something
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that happened yesterday.
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They were very close
to the surface.
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They came up real easily.
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At first, it was like I
was just making it up,
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like this really
can't be happening,
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this really can't be real.
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I have to be making this up.
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And I went to the library,
more to prove that it didn't
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happen than it did happen.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The next day,
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armed with the names of
two sailors, a submarine,
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and a date, Bruce began a crash
course in World War II history.
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[explosion]
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Bruce learned that
during the war,
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52 American submarines
carrying nearly 3,500 sailors
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were lost at sea.
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21 went down in battle,
10 in accidents.
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21 more simply
seemed to disappear.
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No one knew exactly what
had happened to them.
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Incredibly, Bruce found that
the very first American sub lost
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in the war was a "USS
Shark," the submarine Bruce
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had named under hypnosis.
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Bruce was also astounded that
the "Shark" had disappeared
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near an island called Celebes.
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Once again, Bruce's
memories proved accurate.
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BRUCE KELLY: They also
had a crew roster there
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and on the crew
roster was James E.
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Johnston, which was
the name that I had
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come up with under hypnosis.
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And it also gave
the approximate date
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of loss, which was
February 11, 1942,
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which was also the
date that I had
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come up with under hypnosis.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Bruce was further amazed when
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on the crew list, he found the
second name he had remembered,
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Walter Pilgrim, chief
electrician's mate.
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BRUCE KELLY: Hairs were
standing on the back of my neck
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when I saw it.
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It was like, oh,
god, this is real.
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I was in total disbelief
and total shock.
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And there was also
element of excitement
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that maybe there is
something to this.
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Is your mother married?
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No.
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Is your mother living?
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No.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Over the next six months,
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Bruce Kelly saw Rick Brown
on average once a week.
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With each session,
more details emerged,
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details that appeared
to come from the life
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of James Edward Johnston.
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I'm going to go now to
your mother's death.
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Is that acceptable?
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Yes.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
In time, Rick Brown
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began to talk to Bruce
Kelly as if Bruce, in fact,
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were on James Edward Johnston.
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You're there now.
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Are you at home or
in the hospital?
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BRUCE KELLY: It's in a home.
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RICK BROWN: Are there
many people there?
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BRUCE KELLY: Yes.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Bruce saw himself as Johnston
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around age 12, keeping
watch at the moment
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of his mother's death.
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A young cousin named
Elizabeth stood with him.
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Other memories were far
less dramatic, even mundane.
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Bruce vividly recalled
that as Johnston, he always
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made it a point to
eat the end pieces
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from every loaf of bread.
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In another session, Bruce
remembered that Johnston
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was born in February of 1921.
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As a young man during
the Great Depression,
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he was enrolled in a
government work program
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called the CCC, Civilian
Conservation Corps.
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The year was 1938,
the place California.
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Bruce remembered a young girl
there named Molly Lassiter,
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James Johnston's first love.
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I'd like to move forward to
a time when you're with Molly.
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Is that acceptable?
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Yes.
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Moving very quickly now--
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three, to a time when
you're with Molly;
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two, here there now; one.
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Where are you?
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BRUCE KELLY (VOICEOVER):
We're on the bridge.
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RICK BROWN (VOICEOVER): What
are you doing on the bridge?
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BRUCE KELLY (VOICEOVER):
We're talking.
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RICK BROWN (VOICEOVER):
What are you talking about?
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BRUCE KELLY (VOICEOVER): I'm
asking her to run away with me.
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RICK BROWN (VOICEOVER):
Is she afraid?
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BRUCE KELLY (VOICEOVER): Yes.
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RICK BROWN (VOICEOVER):
What is you afraid of?
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BRUCE KELLY
(VOICEOVER): Her father.
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RICK BROWN (VOICEOVER): What is
she afraid of her father about,
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why is she afraid of him?
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BRUCE KELLY (VOICEOVER):
Probably afraid for me.
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RICK BROWN (VOICEOVER):
And what is she
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afraid that will happen to you?
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BRUCE KELLY (VOICEOVER): That he
might harm me or even kill me.
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RICK BROWN (VOICEOVER): Do
you ever see Molly again?
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BRUCE KELLY (VOICEOVER): No.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Bruce Kelly and Rick Brown
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began to research
Johnston's life,
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and Bruce's memories checked
out with remarkable accuracy.
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Johnston had been in the
CCC in 1938 and 1939,
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stationed at Tuli Lake near
the California-Oregon border.
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In 1940, he enlisted in the
Navy and served on board
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the "USS Shark."
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CCC and Naval
records listed James
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Edward Johnston's hometown
as Jacksonville, Alabama.
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The date on Johnson's
birth certificate
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confirmed another crucial fact.
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The month and year Bruce Kelly
had remembered under hypnosis
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were correct, February 1921.
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Bruce came up with
a significant amount
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of information that was well
past being coincidental.
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There were too many
lines of evidence
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that pointed to
the fact that Bruce
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Kelly is the reincarnation
of James Edward Johnston.
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I could be the
reincarnation of James,
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or it just may be some
information that somehow
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or another that
I've tapped into.
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And it means it's something
else that's happening.
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I don't know.
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Although Bruce's
phobias were cured,
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his life had taken on a new
and unexpected dimension.
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There seemed to be a
mysterious synchronicity
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between Bruce Kelly and
James Edward Johnston.
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Bruce's hypnotherapist,
Rick Brown,
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made two trips to Johnston's
hometown, verifying facts,
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before he finally persuaded
Bruce to go there with him.
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Bruce's first visit was
filmed as it happened,
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which you are about to see.
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It is not a recreation.
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On April 17, 1993, Rick
Brown and Bruce Kelley
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arrived in the town
where James Edward
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Johnston was born and raised,
Jacksonville, Alabama.
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At the house where Johnston
and his mother had lived,
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Bruce Kelly experienced
a sudden strong reaction.
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Again, these events were
filmed as they happened.
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There's a lot of stuff here.
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The back bedroom's
right over here.
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- You feel that?
- Yeah.
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That's the bedroom.
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That's the [inaudible].
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We've been a lot
of places, but--
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[inaudible]
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It sure is.
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So I remember I used
to come in the back.
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There was like an
alley back here
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or a dirt road or something.
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It's almost like he
wasn't good enough
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to come in the front door.
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BRUCE KELLY (VOICEOVER):
Moving to the side of the house
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when I could actually
see the bedroom
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and I knew that was the bedroom,
that's when the feelings really
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started hitting.
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Remembering that he used to have
to come in on the back street
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and come through the back
door, the back porch.
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I remembered that.
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I remembered the feelings
of kind of feeling
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like a second class citizen.
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They were poor,
she was unmarried.
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I couldn't vocalize it myself
and somebody off camera
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said something to the
effect of you've come home.
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And that's when I got really
emotional because that's
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exactly what it was.
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Hi.
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BETTY WATSON: So you
made it back down
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to this part of the country?
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Afterwards, Bruce Kelly
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went to meet several
people who remembered
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James Edward Johnston as a boy.
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One of them probably knew
Johnston better than anyone
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else, his cousin Betty.
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We've heard all about you.
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How are you?
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Betty's real name is Elizabeth,
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and Bruce believes she is
the same Elizabeth he saw
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under hypnosis, the little
girl who was with James Edward
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Johnston when his mother died.
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Betty remembers
her aunt's death,
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but not the specifics
of the scene.
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However, when she met Bruce,
other memories of her cousin,
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whom she called
Edward, flooded back.
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Betty began to
press for details.
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Do you remember
anything about bread?
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Yeah.
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One of the first sessions
that Rick and I had,
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I talked to him about always
liking the heel of the bread,
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wanting to get the
end of the bread.
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Because the only that meant
anything to me was growing up,
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I was the same way.
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My mom would bring
home a loaf of bread
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and the first thing I'd
do is open that thing up
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and grab the heel out of there.
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Did you open both ends?
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Sometimes.
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Edward did.
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And I'd get in trouble
for it, sometimes, too.
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Oh, really?
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Yes, I did.
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You went to that house,
the second on the left?
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Yeah.
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Did you have--
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what where your feelings there?
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Well, that's been the
emotional high of the trip.
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It was real difficult,
real emotional.
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Do you feel that you
are Edward reincarnated?
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You don't really feel that?
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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I've been asked that
question so many times.
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And all I know is for
some reason or another,
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I have all this
information about him.
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I don't know where
it comes from.
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For me for me to stand here--
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I really don't
know to believe.
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I have doubts, but there
are just certain things.
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Bruce said that Edward used the
back door, and this is true.
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And not everyone would
have that knowledge.
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The older you
get, the more you're
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going to look at something
like reincarnation or anything
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that offers an answer.
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And reincarnation,
regardless of what
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this religion or that religion
or anything else thinks of it,
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it offers a solution.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): At
the Jacksonville cemetery,
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a memorial stone has
been erected in honor
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of James Edward Johnston.
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No one knows exactly how or when
Johnston died, except perhaps--
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just perhaps-- Bruce Kelly.
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BRUCE KELLY: I was in my bunk
when the attack happened.
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[alarm sounding]
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Everybody was heading
toward their stations.
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I had gotten into
the first hallway
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when there was a depth charge.
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The submarine was
rolling and moving.
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James got to his feet and he had
gotten five, 10 feet more down
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the hallway when there
was a second depth charge
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and it was obviously
a direct hit.
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The next memory I
have is the area
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that I'm in filling up with
water and filling up real fast.
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Pilgrim!
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Pilgrim, is that you?
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BRUCE KELLY: There was
another man in the hallway
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and he was experiencing the
same thing I was, knocked
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off his feet a couple of times
and now trapped in this hallway
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that was filling up with water.
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The last real image
that I had was
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the other man in the corridor.
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I wasn't alone in this corridor.
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There's somebody
else here and they're
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going to the same thing I am.
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We are dying.
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I'm probably not
as afraid of death
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as most people in
the United States are
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or Western civilization are.
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Death isn't something that
I think about every day.
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And I just try to live
every day and enjoy
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every day the best that I can.
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And when death comes, it comes.
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I think that there
is something beyond
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and I don't think it's
a final situation.
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I don't think it's the end of--
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there's more.
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Although we know
it seems far-fetched,
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there may actually
be one person who
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can verify Bruce Kelly's
extraordinary experience.
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Her name, if she exists,
is Molly Lassiter.
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She would have lived near
the California-Oregon border
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in 1938 and would today
be around 70 years old.
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If Molly is out there,
perhaps the mystery
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of Bruce Kelly and
James Edward Johnston
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will at last be solved.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Next,
thanks to you, our viewers,
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a fugitive cult
leader accused of rape
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has finally been tracked down.
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This is Julie Cooper of
Kansas City, Missouri.
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With her is Tim Santi,
the man who rescued Julie
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from a childhood that she
says was nothing short
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of a living nightmare.
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When Julie Cooper was
just six, her parents
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joined a religious
cult in Missouri
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called the DeCloud Family.
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The leader of the sect was a
charismatic ex-police officer
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named Nelson DeCloud.
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Nelson thought that
he was God's son--
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not really that he
was Jesus Christ,
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but that he was
one of God's sons
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and that he couldn't
do any wrong.
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OK.
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Now, I want you to stay out
here for a little while.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Julie says
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that by the time she
was 10, DeCloud was
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demanding to have sex with her.
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--what God wants you to do.
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You understand me?
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Yes.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
According to Julie,
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she initially refused but
eventually the pressure became
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so great that she gave in.
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And he says, well,
are you ready now?
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Of course, after all that had
happened, I just said, yes.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Julie
claims that over the next 12
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years, she was subjected
to constant humiliation
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and emotional
torture by DeCloud,
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forced to serve as his
unwilling sex partner.
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Finally in September
of 1992, Julie Cooper
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made her escape,
aided by Tim Santi,
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an electronics repairman.
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They had met when Tim visited
the compound to work on De
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Cloud DeCloud's satellite dish.
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Last Thursday I
called my friend, Tim.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
At Tim's urging,
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Julie went to the police.
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They immediately issued a
warrant for DeCloud's arrest.
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But before he could
be apprehended,
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DeCloud and his
followers disappeared.
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I want Nelson to get caught
because it's not fair to anyone
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else that's up there.
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My mom and dad,
they need to know
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that he isn't the Messiah--
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he's a criminal.
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What he was doing was wrong.
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After our broadcast, several
viewers from San Angelo,
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Texas, a small town 500 miles
from DeCloud's old headquarters
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in Missouri, called
to say they had seen
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DeCloud's wife in the area.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The cult had apparently
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settled in this farmhouse.
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When state and local agents
converged on the scene,
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DeCloud kicked out the
screen of the upstairs window
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in an attempt to escape.
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And the deputies approached
him and he tried to wrestle
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with a few of them briefly.
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There were so many law
enforcement officers, thought,
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that didn't last very long.
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They put the handcuffs on
him and escorted him out
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of the building.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Nelson DeCloud
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was booked at the
local county jail
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and later extradited
to Liberty, Missouri,
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to stand trial on four
criminal counts, including
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forcible rape and sodomy.
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Since the arrest
of Nelson DeCloud,
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other former
members of the group
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have come forward
wanting to testify
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about things they witnessed when
they were members of the group.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Nelson DeCloud
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is currently out on bail, thanks
to $25,000 raised by followers.
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A trial is scheduled
for November 16th, 1993.
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If convicted on all charges,
Nelson DeCloud could spend
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the rest of his life in prison.
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I feel confident
now that I can
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have a normal life
after seeing him caught,
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knowing that it can be done.
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For Julie Cooper her
long ordeal is almost,
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but not quite over she still
has to testify to clouds
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upcoming trial.
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However, this courageous
young woman has already found
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a happy ending to her story.
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Last summer, Julie became
engaged to Tim Santi,
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the man who helped her escape.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Next, perhaps you
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can help find a hit
and run driver whose
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victim was an 11-year-old boy.
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Chicago's skyline
rises majestically
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above the southwest
tip of Lake Michigan,
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yet the city's
character is defined
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largely by the diverse
communities which
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fan out from the shoreline.
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The Logan Square
section of Chicago
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is was a close-knit
middle class neighborhood.
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Pedro Santiago,
Jr. was born here
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and knew Logan Square
like the back of his hand.
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It was a place where
he always felt safe.
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Pedro, a fifth grader, was
popular with his peers, a good
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student and a talented athlete.
499
00:25:44,577 --> 00:25:46,913
By the time he was 11
years old, he had already
500
00:25:47,013 --> 00:25:48,414
earned a black belt in karate.
501
00:25:51,618 --> 00:25:52,619
Hi, Mom.
502
00:25:52,719 --> 00:25:54,286
Just calling to let
you know that I'm home.
503
00:25:54,386 --> 00:25:55,187
Good.
504
00:25:55,287 --> 00:25:56,756
How did school go today?
505
00:25:56,856 --> 00:25:58,457
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
On December 12th, 1990,
506
00:25:58,557 --> 00:26:00,359
Pedro came straight
home from school
507
00:26:00,459 --> 00:26:03,129
and called his mother at work
to fill her in on his plans
508
00:26:03,229 --> 00:26:05,297
for the afternoon.
509
00:26:05,397 --> 00:26:06,599
When I'm done
with my homework,
510
00:26:06,699 --> 00:26:08,167
can I go over to Eric's and
show him the ball blaster?
511
00:26:10,436 --> 00:26:11,537
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Pedro left
512
00:26:11,638 --> 00:26:13,906
his house just after 3:00 PM.
513
00:26:14,006 --> 00:26:16,609
At that exact moment, two
neighborhood teenagers
514
00:26:16,709 --> 00:26:18,377
were walking back from
the corner market.
515
00:26:24,817 --> 00:26:26,152
[tires squealing]
516
00:26:28,721 --> 00:26:31,357
Well, I'd never seen anything
like that happen so I couldn't
517
00:26:31,457 --> 00:26:32,291
believe that it happened.
518
00:26:32,391 --> 00:26:34,160
I started walking
towards the car
519
00:26:34,260 --> 00:26:35,928
and I seen that it was real.
520
00:26:36,028 --> 00:26:37,630
I started running
towards the car.
521
00:26:40,366 --> 00:26:43,135
The driver, he got
out of his car.
522
00:26:43,235 --> 00:26:46,706
He started cursing, he
started hitting his car.
523
00:26:46,806 --> 00:26:50,276
I guess he was upset with
himself for doing it.
524
00:26:50,376 --> 00:26:54,747
Pedro was trying to talk,
but my friend was telling
525
00:26:54,847 --> 00:26:57,817
him not to waste his energy.
526
00:26:57,917 --> 00:26:59,251
I'm going to
call an ambulance.
527
00:26:59,351 --> 00:27:00,452
Don't let him leave.
528
00:27:00,552 --> 00:27:01,854
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Seconds
529
00:27:01,954 --> 00:27:04,991
later, the man jumped into his
black Oldsmobile and took off.
530
00:27:08,594 --> 00:27:09,929
EYEWITNESS: When I was
on the phone talking
531
00:27:10,029 --> 00:27:13,666
to the man from
the fire station,
532
00:27:13,766 --> 00:27:14,834
I seen him pass right by me.
533
00:27:21,207 --> 00:27:22,541
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
12 minutes later,
534
00:27:22,641 --> 00:27:25,477
Pedro was on his way
to the emergency room.
535
00:27:25,577 --> 00:27:30,216
The hospital chaplain called
Pedro's mother immediately.
536
00:27:30,316 --> 00:27:32,551
When I answered
the phone and I
537
00:27:32,651 --> 00:27:39,325
heard the voice on the other
end, I kind of got shocked.
538
00:27:39,425 --> 00:27:41,160
I said, what happened?
539
00:27:41,260 --> 00:27:44,496
And then this other person
talked to me and said,
540
00:27:44,596 --> 00:27:45,564
it's an emergency.
541
00:27:45,664 --> 00:27:46,733
Your son is in the hospital.
542
00:27:50,436 --> 00:27:52,371
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Pedro
was unconscious and suffering
543
00:27:52,471 --> 00:27:55,507
from massive head injuries.
544
00:27:55,607 --> 00:27:57,643
His parents had only
a few precious seconds
545
00:27:57,744 --> 00:28:00,346
to comfort him before he was
taken into the operating room.
546
00:28:05,217 --> 00:28:08,755
When we got to surgery room,
they said you can kiss him now.
547
00:28:08,855 --> 00:28:09,922
OK.
You can touch him.
548
00:28:10,022 --> 00:28:10,823
Lean forward.
549
00:28:10,923 --> 00:28:12,291
We don't have a lot of time.
550
00:28:12,391 --> 00:28:16,695
EDITH SANTIAGO: And
then we gave him a kiss.
551
00:28:16,796 --> 00:28:17,596
OK.
552
00:28:17,696 --> 00:28:18,597
That's all the time we've got.
553
00:28:23,736 --> 00:28:24,837
And then they took him in.
554
00:28:24,937 --> 00:28:27,907
They said surgery
would be about an hour
555
00:28:28,007 --> 00:28:30,242
and a half or two hours.
556
00:28:30,342 --> 00:28:34,981
We went in the waiting room and
we kept on waiting and waiting.
557
00:28:40,286 --> 00:28:41,587
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Pedro hung
558
00:28:41,687 --> 00:28:45,391
on for 10 agonizing days, but
he never regained consciousness.
559
00:28:45,491 --> 00:28:51,263
He was buried the day
after Christmas in 1990.
560
00:28:51,363 --> 00:28:54,200
With Pedro's death, the hit
and run incident escalated
561
00:28:54,300 --> 00:28:55,234
to a case of manslaughter.
562
00:28:58,037 --> 00:29:01,040
Police had put out an all points
bulletin for the car's owner,
563
00:29:01,140 --> 00:29:03,509
a Cuban immigrant known on
the streets as Cachimba.
564
00:29:06,445 --> 00:29:09,081
When police efforts to
find Cachimba failed,
565
00:29:09,181 --> 00:29:11,784
Pedro's father began to
nose around on his own.
566
00:29:14,553 --> 00:29:21,060
I went to a lot of bars,
a lot of places in Chicago
567
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,796
and I asked everybody,
did you know Cachimba?
568
00:29:23,896 --> 00:29:26,232
They said, yeah,
but he left Chicago.
569
00:29:26,332 --> 00:29:28,600
He's not here anymore.
570
00:29:28,700 --> 00:29:32,038
And I kept asking
everybody until one
571
00:29:32,138 --> 00:29:33,639
day I went to this restaurant.
572
00:29:33,739 --> 00:29:36,208
I asked the man--
573
00:29:36,308 --> 00:29:37,877
[speaking spanish]
574
00:29:41,013 --> 00:29:43,615
He left town a long time ago.
575
00:29:43,715 --> 00:29:44,951
Cuando?
576
00:29:45,051 --> 00:29:48,955
The last time I saw
him was around Christmas.
577
00:29:49,055 --> 00:29:50,389
He wanted me to
lend him some money
578
00:29:50,489 --> 00:29:53,292
so he could move to Nueva York.
579
00:29:53,392 --> 00:29:55,828
Did he say why he was moving?
580
00:29:55,928 --> 00:29:58,764
I think he was in some
trouble with the police.
581
00:29:58,865 --> 00:30:03,369
He had to get out of
town so I gave him $100.
582
00:30:03,469 --> 00:30:09,608
He told me he maybe is
in New York now or Florida.
583
00:30:09,708 --> 00:30:12,378
He gave me a lot of places
where the man could be.
584
00:30:12,478 --> 00:30:14,646
So I gave the police
all those places.
585
00:30:17,083 --> 00:30:18,517
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Nearly two years have
586
00:30:18,617 --> 00:30:20,552
passed with no further leads.
587
00:30:20,652 --> 00:30:23,722
For the Santiagos, nothing
will ever be the same.
588
00:30:27,293 --> 00:30:31,898
To me, it's like it
happened just the other day.
589
00:30:31,998 --> 00:30:33,599
It's very hard to let go.
590
00:30:33,699 --> 00:30:36,302
I try and just--
591
00:30:39,271 --> 00:30:43,375
the happy times that
we spent with Pedro
592
00:30:43,475 --> 00:30:47,546
and I see his smiling face and--
593
00:30:54,786 --> 00:30:57,556
we just miss him a lot.
594
00:30:57,656 --> 00:31:00,292
I know I won't
get my son back,
595
00:31:00,392 --> 00:31:03,930
but I would like to see him
get caught and be locked up.
596
00:31:09,368 --> 00:31:10,802
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Cachimba's real name
597
00:31:10,903 --> 00:31:12,704
is Geraldo Gonzalez.
598
00:31:12,804 --> 00:31:14,706
He has not been
charged with any crime.
599
00:31:14,806 --> 00:31:17,977
However, police would
like to question him.
600
00:31:18,077 --> 00:31:20,980
Cachimba is Cuban, stands
five feet, eight inches tall,
601
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,815
and weighs around 160 pounds.
602
00:31:23,916 --> 00:31:27,353
He may be living in New York,
Florida, Michigan, or Illinois.
603
00:31:30,389 --> 00:31:32,791
When we return, a
four-year-old girl
604
00:31:32,891 --> 00:31:35,427
survives a devastating
tornado and then
605
00:31:35,527 --> 00:31:36,528
mysteriously disappears.
606
00:31:47,706 --> 00:31:50,109
The Woodward, Oklahoma
of 50 years ago
607
00:31:50,209 --> 00:31:52,644
belonged to a
simpler, quieter age.
608
00:31:52,744 --> 00:31:57,649
On April 9th, 1947, two events
were the talk of the town.
609
00:31:57,749 --> 00:31:59,918
A popular Ingrid
Bergman film had finally
610
00:32:00,019 --> 00:32:02,554
arrived at the town's
only movie theater.
611
00:32:02,654 --> 00:32:05,557
More importantly, a
telephone operator strike
612
00:32:05,657 --> 00:32:08,360
had left Woodward's
5,500 residents virtually
613
00:32:08,460 --> 00:32:11,363
cut off from the outside world.
614
00:32:11,463 --> 00:32:13,565
Had the phones been
working that day,
615
00:32:13,665 --> 00:32:16,935
Woodward might have gotten
news of an impending disaster,
616
00:32:17,036 --> 00:32:20,206
a monstrous tornado that
churned its way across Texas
617
00:32:20,306 --> 00:32:21,873
and was headed
directly towards them.
618
00:32:25,344 --> 00:32:28,680
As darkness fell, the giant
twister slammed into the town,
619
00:32:28,780 --> 00:32:31,217
reducing it to rubble.
620
00:32:31,317 --> 00:32:34,286
More than 1,000 people
were injured, more than 100
621
00:32:34,386 --> 00:32:36,655
killed, all in a
matter of minutes.
622
00:32:40,726 --> 00:32:44,163
Nearly half a century has
passed since the disaster,
623
00:32:44,263 --> 00:32:45,931
but incredibly,
one survivor still
624
00:32:46,032 --> 00:32:48,634
remains unaccounted for today.
625
00:32:48,734 --> 00:32:50,602
Joan Gay Croft was
only four years
626
00:32:50,702 --> 00:32:52,638
old when she
mysteriously disappeared
627
00:32:52,738 --> 00:32:55,874
during the chaotic
aftermath of the tornado.
628
00:32:55,974 --> 00:32:59,211
Although Joan Gay was last
seen more than 46 years ago,
629
00:32:59,311 --> 00:33:02,814
some members of her family are
convinced she is still alive.
630
00:33:02,914 --> 00:33:06,018
Perhaps with your help,
she will be found tonight.
631
00:33:06,118 --> 00:33:07,919
Perhaps she will
even be watching.
632
00:33:11,890 --> 00:33:14,526
Joan Gay Croft grew up
in one of Woodward's most
633
00:33:14,626 --> 00:33:17,029
prominent families.
634
00:33:17,129 --> 00:33:21,300
God is great, God is good,
let us thank him for our food.
635
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:22,734
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Her father, Olin,
636
00:33:22,834 --> 00:33:24,970
was a successful sheep rancher.
637
00:33:25,071 --> 00:33:26,738
He was able to provide
a comfortable life
638
00:33:26,838 --> 00:33:27,939
for the family--
639
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,142
his wife, Cleta, her
12-year-old daughter
640
00:33:30,242 --> 00:33:32,078
from a previous
marriage, and of course,
641
00:33:32,178 --> 00:33:35,247
four-year-old Joan Gay,
who is remembered fondly
642
00:33:35,347 --> 00:33:38,584
by her great Aunt Ruth Bohn.
643
00:33:38,684 --> 00:33:41,487
She's the most prettiest
little girl I ever seen.
644
00:33:41,587 --> 00:33:42,788
She was just perfect.
645
00:33:42,888 --> 00:33:45,857
Her little teeth
was white as pearls.
646
00:33:45,957 --> 00:33:48,060
And she was real bashful.
647
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:49,728
When someone would
come in, she'd
648
00:33:49,828 --> 00:33:50,962
get a hold of her
mother's dress tail
649
00:33:51,063 --> 00:33:54,066
and kind of hide
around behind her.
650
00:33:54,166 --> 00:33:55,234
She was a mama's girl.
651
00:34:02,474 --> 00:34:03,775
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): April 9th,
652
00:34:03,875 --> 00:34:08,614
1947 had dawned ominously, with
the sky tinted a reddish cast.
653
00:34:08,714 --> 00:34:10,849
That afternoon, Ruth
Bohn was visiting
654
00:34:10,949 --> 00:34:15,754
her sister when the day suddenly
grew dark and threatening.
655
00:34:15,854 --> 00:34:16,988
Do you feel that?
656
00:34:17,089 --> 00:34:18,224
RUTH BOHN (VOICEOVER):
So I looked up
657
00:34:18,324 --> 00:34:22,428
and it was just so still
that it was really odd.
658
00:34:22,528 --> 00:34:24,596
It's been windy all day
and it's really calm out.
659
00:34:24,696 --> 00:34:26,598
The sky's an odd color.
660
00:34:26,698 --> 00:34:28,667
RUTH BOHN (VOICEOVER):
There wasn't no noise anyhow
661
00:34:28,767 --> 00:34:30,202
and the birds wasn't saying.
662
00:34:30,302 --> 00:34:31,303
It was just quiet.
663
00:34:36,908 --> 00:34:40,946
Time we got home,
that thing had hit.
664
00:34:41,046 --> 00:34:44,250
We'd hear boards and
tin stuff in the house
665
00:34:44,350 --> 00:34:49,388
and I just knew that we'd
never had nothing like this.
666
00:34:49,488 --> 00:34:51,923
When the tornado hit, I
stepped out on the front porch
667
00:34:52,023 --> 00:34:53,392
and I saw this car
coming down the street
668
00:34:53,492 --> 00:34:54,960
with all four wheels
looked up and the wind
669
00:34:55,060 --> 00:34:57,363
was pushing it down the street.
670
00:34:57,463 --> 00:34:59,831
I knew we were in trouble then.
671
00:34:59,931 --> 00:35:01,433
Wind began to blow.
672
00:35:01,533 --> 00:35:05,404
It became quite fierce
and we huddled back
673
00:35:05,504 --> 00:35:09,508
in the corner of the room to
watch the windows blow out
674
00:35:09,608 --> 00:35:14,246
and the electric light lines
bounce down the street.
675
00:35:14,346 --> 00:35:19,151
It was just a horrible,
horrible experience.
676
00:35:19,251 --> 00:35:20,118
I was very scared.
677
00:35:22,721 --> 00:35:29,094
It lasted four to five minutes,
which seemed like an eternity.
678
00:35:34,132 --> 00:35:36,302
We were very lucky.
679
00:35:36,402 --> 00:35:39,471
We had broken
windows, minor damage.
680
00:35:39,571 --> 00:35:42,874
And then mother and I went
to search for our relatives.
681
00:35:47,145 --> 00:35:48,714
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Marvella and her mother,
682
00:35:48,814 --> 00:35:50,649
Ruth, joined the
survivors streaming
683
00:35:50,749 --> 00:35:53,485
to the town's only hospital.
684
00:35:53,585 --> 00:35:56,355
Ruth had been unable to
find her mother or brother,
685
00:35:56,455 --> 00:35:59,258
nor had she heard from
Olin Croft and his family.
686
00:35:59,358 --> 00:36:00,526
Marvella, over here.
687
00:36:00,626 --> 00:36:02,027
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
An eerie calm had settled
688
00:36:02,127 --> 00:36:04,496
over an unforgettable scene.
689
00:36:04,596 --> 00:36:07,132
Mama, where are you?
690
00:36:07,233 --> 00:36:09,000
MARVELLA PARKS: We
stepped over bodies.
691
00:36:09,100 --> 00:36:13,071
Some of them had their skull
all cut off and some of them
692
00:36:13,171 --> 00:36:14,306
had their throats cut.
693
00:36:14,406 --> 00:36:16,975
Some of them was dead.
694
00:36:17,075 --> 00:36:20,011
It was just like wartime
if they dropped a bomb.
695
00:36:20,111 --> 00:36:21,580
That's just about
what it looked like.
696
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,749
It was just terrible.
697
00:36:23,849 --> 00:36:25,183
There's Betty Irwin.
698
00:36:25,284 --> 00:36:26,918
Betty?
699
00:36:27,018 --> 00:36:29,154
Betty, have you seen my mama?
700
00:36:29,255 --> 00:36:30,055
Have you seen my family?
701
00:36:30,155 --> 00:36:31,156
No.
702
00:36:31,257 --> 00:36:32,924
I haven't seen your
mama, hon, but Joan Gay
703
00:36:33,024 --> 00:36:34,293
and Jerry are in the basement.
704
00:36:34,393 --> 00:36:36,061
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Ruth
learned that her nieces had
705
00:36:36,161 --> 00:36:37,396
made it through the tornado.
706
00:36:37,496 --> 00:36:40,098
Their father, Olin,
was seriously injured.
707
00:36:40,198 --> 00:36:44,303
Tragically, their
mother, Cleta, was dead.
708
00:36:44,403 --> 00:36:45,203
I thought, oh, no.
709
00:36:45,304 --> 00:36:46,972
Lord, it can't be this.
710
00:36:47,072 --> 00:36:50,309
It just can't be
this, that's all.
711
00:36:50,409 --> 00:36:52,878
She was a perfect
mother to those kids
712
00:36:52,978 --> 00:36:55,146
and the kids who loved her.
713
00:36:55,247 --> 00:36:58,717
And that was hard.
It was hard.
714
00:36:58,817 --> 00:37:02,120
It was real hard.
715
00:37:02,220 --> 00:37:04,823
Joan Gay, Jerry?
716
00:37:04,923 --> 00:37:06,892
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Ruth
picked her way through the dead
717
00:37:06,992 --> 00:37:08,860
and wounded in the
hospital basement
718
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,330
until she finally
found her nieces.
719
00:37:11,430 --> 00:37:13,332
Joan Gay's leg had
been pierced clear
720
00:37:13,432 --> 00:37:16,001
through with a finger-sized
splinter of wood.
721
00:37:16,101 --> 00:37:19,705
Her sister was bruised
from the flying debris.
722
00:37:19,805 --> 00:37:23,375
RUTH BOHN (VOICEOVER): Well, I
thought, God saved them both.
723
00:37:23,475 --> 00:37:25,277
They're going to be all right
because neither one of them
724
00:37:25,377 --> 00:37:28,046
was hurt very bad.
725
00:37:28,146 --> 00:37:31,483
You just think of it as
a big ol' splinter, OK?
726
00:37:31,583 --> 00:37:35,153
I want my mommy and my daddy.
727
00:37:35,253 --> 00:37:37,255
I know where your daddy is.
728
00:37:37,356 --> 00:37:39,257
I'm going to see if
I can find your mama.
729
00:37:39,358 --> 00:37:43,329
The poor kids, I got
to tell them mama's gone.
730
00:37:43,429 --> 00:37:45,897
And that was just heartbreaking.
731
00:37:45,997 --> 00:37:48,567
So I didn't let on like I even
knew because that wouldn't
732
00:37:48,667 --> 00:37:49,735
help those girls at all.
733
00:37:49,835 --> 00:37:51,437
They would have just
went hysterical.
734
00:37:51,537 --> 00:37:53,905
I'm sure they would have.
735
00:37:54,005 --> 00:37:55,173
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Relieved
736
00:37:55,273 --> 00:37:58,276
that her nieces were safe,
Ruth hurried back outside.
737
00:37:58,377 --> 00:38:00,879
There, she finally found
her mother and brother.
738
00:38:00,979 --> 00:38:01,813
Mama.
739
00:38:01,913 --> 00:38:03,048
Carl, is she going
to be all right?
740
00:38:03,148 --> 00:38:04,215
No, Ruth.
She's bad.
741
00:38:04,316 --> 00:38:05,651
We've got to get her
to Moreland Hospital.
742
00:38:05,751 --> 00:38:08,420
Mama, can you stand?
743
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,456
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): When
she got to the other hospital,
744
00:38:10,556 --> 00:38:12,257
Ruth was pressed
into service helping
745
00:38:12,358 --> 00:38:15,861
the overburdened
doctors and nurses.
746
00:38:15,961 --> 00:38:18,330
The next morning, she finally
returned to her nieces.
747
00:38:21,633 --> 00:38:23,502
Aunt Ruth.
748
00:38:23,602 --> 00:38:25,837
Where's Joan Gay?
749
00:38:25,937 --> 00:38:27,706
Some men took her.
750
00:38:27,806 --> 00:38:29,375
Some men took her?
751
00:38:29,475 --> 00:38:30,776
Did you know them?
752
00:38:30,876 --> 00:38:31,677
No.
753
00:38:31,777 --> 00:38:33,345
Betty?
754
00:38:33,445 --> 00:38:34,613
Betty?
755
00:38:34,713 --> 00:38:35,547
What is it, Ruth?
756
00:38:35,647 --> 00:38:36,615
Where's Joan Gay?
757
00:38:36,715 --> 00:38:38,116
Well, two men came
by last night and--
758
00:38:38,216 --> 00:38:39,250
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): The two men
759
00:38:39,351 --> 00:38:40,586
had claimed they were
taking the little girl
760
00:38:40,686 --> 00:38:45,323
to a hospital in Oklahoma
City, some 120 miles distant.
761
00:38:45,424 --> 00:38:47,759
But calls to all the
hospitals in that area
762
00:38:47,859 --> 00:38:50,929
turned up absolutely no
trace of Joan Gay Croft.
763
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,935
Less than a week
after the tornado,
764
00:38:57,035 --> 00:38:59,805
Ruth received the phone
call she had been dreading,
765
00:38:59,905 --> 00:39:01,339
a call from the local mortician.
766
00:39:04,410 --> 00:39:08,313
When the bodies were laid
out in the chapel area,
767
00:39:08,414 --> 00:39:10,982
their relatives would
come in and look at them.
768
00:39:11,082 --> 00:39:15,053
Well, when you finally got
down, we had two left over
769
00:39:15,153 --> 00:39:19,224
that nobody had identified.
770
00:39:19,324 --> 00:39:20,726
Franklin?
771
00:39:20,826 --> 00:39:22,027
Franklin?
772
00:39:22,127 --> 00:39:23,429
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
One of the unclaimed bodies
773
00:39:23,529 --> 00:39:26,197
was a young blonde-haired girl
who bore a striking resemblance
774
00:39:26,297 --> 00:39:28,166
to Joan Gay Croft.
775
00:39:28,266 --> 00:39:31,269
The mortician asked Ruth to
bring some of her niece's close
776
00:39:31,369 --> 00:39:33,104
to the mortuary.
777
00:39:33,204 --> 00:39:35,306
Ruth, these are too big.
778
00:39:35,407 --> 00:39:36,808
It's not your niece.
779
00:39:36,908 --> 00:39:38,309
I pray to God you're
right, Franklin.
780
00:39:38,410 --> 00:39:39,611
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Ruth insisted
781
00:39:39,711 --> 00:39:41,813
on viewing the little
girl just to be
782
00:39:41,913 --> 00:39:45,083
sure she was not Joan Gay.
783
00:39:45,183 --> 00:39:49,387
I was really relieved it
wasn't our little Joan Gay.
784
00:39:49,488 --> 00:39:54,826
I just-- that was one burden
of my heart right there.
785
00:39:54,926 --> 00:39:56,227
You will find her, Ruth.
786
00:39:56,327 --> 00:39:57,596
I hope so.
787
00:39:57,696 --> 00:39:59,865
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): With
Joan Gay still unaccounted for,
788
00:39:59,965 --> 00:40:03,368
her family launched
an all-out search.
789
00:40:03,469 --> 00:40:09,508
They listed her missing with
all of the law enforcement,
790
00:40:09,608 --> 00:40:11,276
FBI.
791
00:40:11,376 --> 00:40:14,746
They went to all
extremes to look for her.
792
00:40:14,846 --> 00:40:18,183
And there was never,
ever a trace of her.
793
00:40:23,822 --> 00:40:25,356
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
After nearly 50 years,
794
00:40:25,457 --> 00:40:28,359
the identity of the two men
who carried off Joan Gay
795
00:40:28,460 --> 00:40:29,895
is a source of
lingering speculation.
796
00:40:32,631 --> 00:40:35,300
According to Ruth, they asked
the nurse very specifically
797
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,670
for the Croft children.
798
00:40:38,770 --> 00:40:40,772
Had the men known the family?
799
00:40:40,872 --> 00:40:42,808
Were they even the
rescue workers?
800
00:40:42,908 --> 00:40:46,377
And where did they
take Joan Gay?
801
00:40:46,478 --> 00:40:49,080
Whatever the answers, many
of Joan Gay's relatives
802
00:40:49,180 --> 00:40:50,549
believe she is still alive.
803
00:40:53,384 --> 00:40:55,621
It's a possibility she
could be out there alive.
804
00:40:55,721 --> 00:40:58,356
I have no idea.
805
00:40:58,456 --> 00:41:00,926
I think maybe she
might be because she
806
00:41:01,026 --> 00:41:02,928
wasn't really hurt that bad.
807
00:41:03,028 --> 00:41:06,565
Until somebody can
prove to me otherwise,
808
00:41:06,665 --> 00:41:08,166
I will always believe--
809
00:41:08,266 --> 00:41:12,237
I'll firmly believe--
she's out there somewhere.
810
00:41:12,337 --> 00:41:17,308
And we want to find her
and bring her back home.
811
00:41:17,408 --> 00:41:20,912
We'd just have a great big
reunion, that what we would do.
812
00:41:21,012 --> 00:41:22,648
We would celebrate, yeah.
813
00:41:22,748 --> 00:41:23,749
All of us would.
814
00:41:26,585 --> 00:41:28,186
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Very few pictures of Joan
815
00:41:28,286 --> 00:41:30,656
Gay Croft survived the tornado.
816
00:41:30,756 --> 00:41:33,692
Joan Gay had blue eyes,
blonde hair, and at the time
817
00:41:33,792 --> 00:41:35,561
spoke with a mild lisp.
818
00:41:35,661 --> 00:41:38,096
She would probably still
have scars on her left calf
819
00:41:38,196 --> 00:41:40,699
from a tornado injury.
820
00:41:40,799 --> 00:41:42,701
Joan Gay Croft was
four years old when
821
00:41:42,801 --> 00:41:58,850
she disappeared April 9, 1947.
822
00:41:58,950 --> 00:42:02,520
On our next "Unsolved
Mysteries," in Australia,
823
00:42:02,621 --> 00:42:05,256
a panicky young pilot radios
that he's being tailed
824
00:42:05,356 --> 00:42:07,292
by a bizarre light source.
825
00:42:07,392 --> 00:42:09,695
Seconds later, the
pilot and his plane
826
00:42:09,795 --> 00:42:11,897
literally vanish from the sky.
827
00:42:11,997 --> 00:42:14,199
Some believe it was
a close encounter
828
00:42:14,299 --> 00:42:15,400
of the most sinister kind.
829
00:42:18,136 --> 00:42:20,305
Also, the curious saga
of a convicted bank
830
00:42:20,405 --> 00:42:24,342
robber who refuses to tell
authorities his real name.
831
00:42:24,442 --> 00:42:29,280
The more we kept digging into
this gentleman's background,
832
00:42:29,380 --> 00:42:33,284
the more mystery surrounded him.
833
00:42:33,384 --> 00:42:37,723
Everyone that surrounded
him eventually disappeared.
834
00:42:37,823 --> 00:42:39,090
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Perhaps someone
835
00:42:39,190 --> 00:42:42,360
watching will know his
identity and what, if anything,
836
00:42:42,460 --> 00:42:45,463
he is trying to conceal.
837
00:42:45,563 --> 00:42:48,566
Join me next time for
another fascinating edition
838
00:42:48,667 --> 00:42:49,968
of "Unsolved Mysteries."
839
00:42:50,068 --> 00:42:52,738
[theme music]
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