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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,672 --> 00:00:07,408 ANNOUNCER: This program is about unsolved mysteries. 2 00:00:07,508 --> 00:00:09,410 Whenever possible, the actual family members 3 00:00:09,510 --> 00:00:11,379 and police officials have participated 4 00:00:11,479 --> 00:00:13,013 in recreating the events. 5 00:00:13,114 --> 00:00:15,316 What you are about to see is not a news broadcast. 6 00:00:20,521 --> 00:00:23,591 Tonight, two unusual mysteries to commemorate the spirit 7 00:00:23,691 --> 00:00:26,627 of the Easter season. 8 00:00:26,727 --> 00:00:30,198 She is known around the world as Our Lady of Guadalupe, 9 00:00:30,298 --> 00:00:32,300 a beautiful likeness of the Virgin Mary 10 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,868 on an old piece of cactus cloth. 11 00:00:34,968 --> 00:00:36,737 For centuries, religious pilgrims 12 00:00:36,837 --> 00:00:39,640 have come to Mexico City to pray to the image, which 13 00:00:39,740 --> 00:00:42,543 many believe was created by a miracle. 14 00:00:42,643 --> 00:00:45,979 For just as long, scholars and skeptics have pondered, 15 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:51,319 is Our Lady of Guadalupe a work of God or of man? 16 00:00:51,419 --> 00:00:54,688 In the 1950s, master illustrator Ben Stahl 17 00:00:54,788 --> 00:00:57,291 created 15 unique paintings to celebrate 18 00:00:57,391 --> 00:00:59,460 the final journey of Christ. 19 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,797 But just after Easter in 1969, a gang of brazen thieves 20 00:01:03,897 --> 00:01:05,999 made off with the precious collection that 21 00:01:06,100 --> 00:01:09,837 left Ben Stahl heartbroken. 22 00:01:09,937 --> 00:01:13,607 Ben Stahl passed away in 1987, having no idea what happened 23 00:01:13,707 --> 00:01:16,043 to his beloved collection. 24 00:01:16,144 --> 00:01:18,412 Tonight, his children hope that someone in our audience 25 00:01:18,512 --> 00:01:21,682 can help recover their father's lost legacy. 26 00:01:21,782 --> 00:01:24,218 Join me for this intriguing case, as well 27 00:01:24,318 --> 00:01:27,388 as these fascinating mysteries. 28 00:01:27,488 --> 00:01:30,691 On Friday the 13th, 1991, Tom Roche 29 00:01:30,791 --> 00:01:32,660 dropped his girlfriend at her job 30 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,028 and then vanished without a trace. 31 00:01:35,129 --> 00:01:38,232 Six days later, an anonymous letter boasted that Tom 32 00:01:38,332 --> 00:01:41,202 Roche had been murdered. 33 00:01:41,302 --> 00:01:44,672 Near Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, a dark, lonely road, 34 00:01:44,772 --> 00:01:48,209 a minor traffic accident, a brutal attack. 35 00:01:48,309 --> 00:01:52,680 Now authorities need your help to identify a killer. 36 00:01:52,780 --> 00:01:55,249 And thanks to our viewers, a family in Canada 37 00:01:55,349 --> 00:02:00,388 is reunited with two brothers missing for nearly 25 years. 38 00:02:00,488 --> 00:02:04,858 [theme music] 39 00:02:56,510 --> 00:02:59,247 Since the mid 19th century, religious pilgrims 40 00:02:59,347 --> 00:03:01,215 from around the world have journeyed to the French village 41 00:03:01,315 --> 00:03:02,115 of Lourdes. 42 00:03:04,752 --> 00:03:07,187 Since just before the first World War, 43 00:03:07,288 --> 00:03:08,556 hundreds of thousands have traveled 44 00:03:08,656 --> 00:03:10,524 to the Portuguese farmlands of Fatima. 45 00:03:13,594 --> 00:03:15,363 And in recent years, millions have 46 00:03:15,463 --> 00:03:20,901 come to Medjugorje in the former Republic of Yugoslavia. 47 00:03:21,001 --> 00:03:23,504 Many people believe these three communities have shared 48 00:03:23,604 --> 00:03:25,806 a remarkable occurrence-- 49 00:03:25,906 --> 00:03:28,442 the miraculous appearance of the Virgin Mary, 50 00:03:28,542 --> 00:03:29,710 mother of Jesus Christ. 51 00:03:32,813 --> 00:03:36,317 But for centuries, long before pilgrims flocked to Lourdes, 52 00:03:36,417 --> 00:03:40,288 Fatima, and Medjugorje, they had been coming to Mexico City 53 00:03:40,388 --> 00:03:43,123 to worship Our Lady of Guadalupe, 54 00:03:43,223 --> 00:03:46,794 an image of the Virgin Mary on a 6-foot-high peasant's cape made 55 00:03:46,894 --> 00:03:50,531 of rough cactus cloth, which many people claim 56 00:03:50,631 --> 00:03:52,433 was imprinted by the Virgin herself. 57 00:03:56,337 --> 00:03:58,939 For more than 400 years, Our Lady of Guadalupe 58 00:03:59,039 --> 00:04:01,642 has inspired and moved millions. 59 00:04:01,742 --> 00:04:03,977 Long a centerpiece of Catholic history, 60 00:04:04,077 --> 00:04:06,980 the image has also sparked intense controversy. 61 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,383 To skeptics, it is a skillful painting, 62 00:04:09,483 --> 00:04:11,685 impressive but hardly wondrous. 63 00:04:11,785 --> 00:04:13,587 On the other hand, the church has officially 64 00:04:13,687 --> 00:04:16,690 recognized the image as a creation of God, 65 00:04:16,790 --> 00:04:18,792 a miracle which occurred in 16th century 66 00:04:18,892 --> 00:04:21,929 Mexico, when Catholic missionaries from Spain 67 00:04:22,029 --> 00:04:24,332 were attempting to convert the native Aztec Indians. 68 00:04:29,069 --> 00:04:30,638 According to church records, there 69 00:04:30,738 --> 00:04:32,673 was a man named Juan Diego, who lived 70 00:04:32,773 --> 00:04:34,808 with his uncle in a village 5 miles north 71 00:04:34,908 --> 00:04:37,811 of what is now Mexico City. 72 00:04:37,911 --> 00:04:42,550 Juan was one of the first Aztecs converted to Christianity. 73 00:04:42,650 --> 00:04:45,953 On a December morning in 1531, Juan Diego 74 00:04:46,053 --> 00:04:48,489 was on his way to mass when he passed by the base 75 00:04:48,589 --> 00:04:49,690 of a hill called Tepeyac. 76 00:05:03,871 --> 00:05:05,606 As he approached the summit, Juan 77 00:05:05,706 --> 00:05:07,541 heard a voice call his name. 78 00:05:07,641 --> 00:05:08,442 FEMALE SPEAKER: Juan. 79 00:05:11,044 --> 00:05:12,980 Juanito. 80 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:14,615 ROBERT STACK: He was instantly overwhelmed 81 00:05:14,715 --> 00:05:16,116 by a godlike radiance. 82 00:06:02,530 --> 00:06:04,665 ROBERT STACK: Certain that he had experienced a miracle, 83 00:06:04,765 --> 00:06:06,400 Juan journeyed straight to Mexico 84 00:06:06,500 --> 00:06:09,169 City, then the seat of the Roman Catholic Church 85 00:06:09,269 --> 00:06:11,104 in the new world. 86 00:06:11,204 --> 00:06:13,607 He patiently waited several hours for an audience 87 00:06:13,707 --> 00:06:16,944 with Bishop Zumarraga, known as a powerful but gentle 88 00:06:17,044 --> 00:06:19,713 man who treated the Indians with kindness and respect. 89 00:06:36,029 --> 00:06:38,231 ROBERT STACK: The bishop was skeptical. 90 00:06:38,331 --> 00:06:42,836 Perhaps Juan had been dreaming, or perhaps drinking. 91 00:06:42,936 --> 00:06:44,638 He told Juan to bring him proof. 92 00:06:48,809 --> 00:06:51,178 Dejected, Juan returned home. 93 00:06:51,278 --> 00:06:55,716 But the next day, he would be given his proof. 94 00:06:55,816 --> 00:06:58,519 His uncle fell gravely ill and Juan went to fetch 95 00:06:58,619 --> 00:07:01,421 a priest to perform last rites. 96 00:07:01,522 --> 00:07:04,291 His route took him back to the base of Tepeyac Hill. 97 00:08:00,380 --> 00:08:03,817 ROBERT STACK: Now Juan became filled with doubts of his own. 98 00:08:03,917 --> 00:08:06,453 Tepeyac was barren from the cold of winter, 99 00:08:06,554 --> 00:08:08,155 and if flowers had once been there, 100 00:08:08,255 --> 00:08:09,957 they would certainly not be blooming now. 101 00:08:15,462 --> 00:08:17,765 To Juan's astonishment, the hilltop 102 00:08:17,865 --> 00:08:19,900 was blanketed with brilliant roses of Castile. 103 00:08:23,170 --> 00:08:25,806 Juan gathered them in his tilma, a loose cape 104 00:08:25,906 --> 00:08:26,907 made of cactus cloth. 105 00:08:41,755 --> 00:08:43,490 ROBERT STACK: According to church documents, where 106 00:08:43,591 --> 00:08:45,392 the flowers had rested in the tilma, 107 00:08:45,492 --> 00:08:48,095 there appeared an extraordinary image of the Virgin Mary. 108 00:08:51,865 --> 00:08:54,835 The bishop now believed that a miracle had occurred, 109 00:08:54,935 --> 00:08:58,271 that Juan Diego had indeed seen and spoken 110 00:08:58,371 --> 00:08:59,206 with the mother of God. 111 00:09:02,576 --> 00:09:05,478 After Juan Diego's vision, millions of Indians 112 00:09:05,579 --> 00:09:08,548 converted to Roman Catholicism within just three years. 113 00:09:14,822 --> 00:09:16,957 In accordance with the Virgin's wishes, 114 00:09:17,057 --> 00:09:19,559 this shrine was soon built on Tepeyac Hill, 115 00:09:19,660 --> 00:09:21,194 with the image on prominent display. 116 00:09:24,064 --> 00:09:26,266 It was named Our Lady of Guadalupe 117 00:09:26,366 --> 00:09:28,736 after a village in Spain. 118 00:09:28,836 --> 00:09:31,705 Over the centuries, the church allowed painted details 119 00:09:31,805 --> 00:09:33,807 to be added to the portrait, including 120 00:09:33,907 --> 00:09:36,777 gold rays, a cherub, and the green, red, 121 00:09:36,877 --> 00:09:37,878 and white colors of Mexico. 122 00:09:41,348 --> 00:09:46,119 Since 1976, the image has been housed in a special basilica. 123 00:09:46,219 --> 00:09:49,522 Every year, 5 million believers make pilgrimages. 124 00:09:52,325 --> 00:09:54,227 But for as long as it has existed, 125 00:09:54,327 --> 00:09:56,363 there has been debate over whether the portrait is truly 126 00:09:56,463 --> 00:09:57,264 a miracle. 127 00:10:00,300 --> 00:10:02,335 Jody Smith, an associate professor 128 00:10:02,435 --> 00:10:04,204 of philosophy at a Florida college, 129 00:10:04,304 --> 00:10:06,940 is a leading authority on the image. 130 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,609 But Smith is hardly the first scholar to be intrigued 131 00:10:09,710 --> 00:10:12,112 by Our Lady of Guadalupe. 132 00:10:12,212 --> 00:10:15,515 As early as 1666, the church commissioned a group 133 00:10:15,615 --> 00:10:18,518 of physicians and master artist Juan Salguero 134 00:10:18,618 --> 00:10:21,755 to inspect the Virgin's image. 135 00:10:21,855 --> 00:10:25,893 JODY SMITH: Juan Salguero concluded that the painting was 136 00:10:25,993 --> 00:10:30,798 indeed on unsized or unprepared or unsealed cloth, 137 00:10:30,898 --> 00:10:32,532 and for that reason alone-- 138 00:10:32,632 --> 00:10:35,635 others also appearing. 139 00:10:35,736 --> 00:10:39,272 But for that reason alone, given that the cloth was made 140 00:10:39,372 --> 00:10:43,410 of the fragile [inaudible] cactus fiber, 141 00:10:43,510 --> 00:10:46,413 it should have long since disintegrated. 142 00:10:46,513 --> 00:10:49,016 ROBERT STACK: James Randy is a professional magician 143 00:10:49,116 --> 00:10:51,151 and an investigator of paranormal phenomena. 144 00:10:51,251 --> 00:10:53,286 As a matter of fact, I have a frame 145 00:10:53,386 --> 00:10:55,889 with some of the same kind of cloth in it 146 00:10:55,989 --> 00:11:02,595 that dates back about 450, 550 years at least, from Peru. 147 00:11:02,696 --> 00:11:03,496 Different country. 148 00:11:03,596 --> 00:11:05,498 Perhaps a different cactus. 149 00:11:05,598 --> 00:11:08,668 The tilma cloth is very fragile, but not 150 00:11:08,769 --> 00:11:09,837 when it's put in a frame. 151 00:11:09,937 --> 00:11:13,540 It can last for the longest time. 152 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:15,042 ROBERT STACK: For the first hundred years, 153 00:11:15,142 --> 00:11:18,578 the tilma had been exposed to a high concentration of saltpeter 154 00:11:18,678 --> 00:11:21,882 in the humid air where it was on display. 155 00:11:21,982 --> 00:11:24,417 Some experts believe this alone should have caused 156 00:11:24,517 --> 00:11:28,521 the image's disintegration. 157 00:11:28,621 --> 00:11:31,992 That point was dramatically demonstrated in 1789, 158 00:11:32,092 --> 00:11:34,728 when a skeptical priest ordered 11 artists to render 159 00:11:34,828 --> 00:11:37,664 11 copies of the painting using the same kind 160 00:11:37,765 --> 00:11:40,467 of unsized cactus cloth. 161 00:11:40,567 --> 00:11:43,270 In just seven years, all 11 were so 162 00:11:43,370 --> 00:11:45,906 peeled and coated with fungus that they had to be 163 00:11:46,006 --> 00:11:49,509 removed from public display. 164 00:11:49,609 --> 00:11:52,980 PHILIP CALLAHAN: I think that the fact that the images lasted 165 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,984 for almost 500 years now; the fact that the tilma, 166 00:11:57,084 --> 00:12:00,754 which is a cactus plant, hasn't rotted; 167 00:12:00,854 --> 00:12:02,823 and the fact that the original picture-- 168 00:12:02,923 --> 00:12:04,557 the pigment on the original picture-- 169 00:12:04,657 --> 00:12:07,160 is still just like it always was-- it hasn't cracked-- 170 00:12:07,260 --> 00:12:10,798 is another totally inexplicable thing. 171 00:12:10,898 --> 00:12:14,802 ROBERT STACK: In May of 1979, Jody Smith and Philip Callahan 172 00:12:14,902 --> 00:12:18,238 were given formal permission to examine the image up close, 173 00:12:18,338 --> 00:12:19,907 its protective glass removed. 174 00:12:23,110 --> 00:12:26,546 The gold rays around the Virgin added in the 17th century 175 00:12:26,646 --> 00:12:29,582 were badly chipped, but the original image 176 00:12:29,682 --> 00:12:32,419 of the face and body remain remarkably 177 00:12:32,519 --> 00:12:35,322 bright and uncracked. 178 00:12:35,422 --> 00:12:36,924 JODY SMITH: Naturally enough, we examined 179 00:12:37,024 --> 00:12:39,793 the face most intensely. 180 00:12:39,893 --> 00:12:43,063 And studying this with a magnifying glass, 181 00:12:43,163 --> 00:12:45,933 we could see no hairline cracks. 182 00:12:46,033 --> 00:12:49,036 Whatever the medium used to color it was, 183 00:12:49,136 --> 00:12:51,538 it's very strange because, after all 184 00:12:51,638 --> 00:12:54,774 of these years with no evidence of retouching, 185 00:12:54,875 --> 00:12:59,579 there's no evidence of age disfiguration. 186 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:01,548 It's gone through so many changes over the years, 187 00:13:01,648 --> 00:13:03,350 of course, and so many different representations 188 00:13:03,450 --> 00:13:06,219 have been made of it and for it that it's really hard 189 00:13:06,319 --> 00:13:08,188 to tell what happened to the original 190 00:13:08,288 --> 00:13:09,489 or if this is the original. 191 00:13:09,589 --> 00:13:10,590 You can't tell. 192 00:13:10,690 --> 00:13:15,028 There's really so little evidence available. 193 00:13:15,128 --> 00:13:16,964 ROBERT STACK: These infrared photographs reveal 194 00:13:17,064 --> 00:13:18,966 another surprising aspect-- 195 00:13:19,066 --> 00:13:21,001 the lack of an undersketch. 196 00:13:21,101 --> 00:13:23,871 An undersketch would indicate that the image had 197 00:13:23,971 --> 00:13:26,940 been painted by human hands. 198 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:28,675 The film photographs-- the infrared 199 00:13:28,775 --> 00:13:33,446 photographs showed that there is absolutely no drawing under it. 200 00:13:33,546 --> 00:13:36,416 It's inconceivable that an artist in the 16th century 201 00:13:36,516 --> 00:13:38,718 would paint a portrait without first doing a drawing of it. 202 00:13:38,818 --> 00:13:40,653 In fact, it's fairly inconceivable any artists would 203 00:13:40,753 --> 00:13:43,090 do it today, although you could do it with some modern art 204 00:13:43,190 --> 00:13:46,093 thing, but not with a portrait. 205 00:13:46,193 --> 00:13:47,360 ROBERT STACK: The practice of making 206 00:13:47,460 --> 00:13:50,363 a rough sketch before proceeding with a portrait traces 207 00:13:50,463 --> 00:13:52,299 back to antiquity. 208 00:13:52,399 --> 00:13:55,302 Only when completely satisfied with the undersketch 209 00:13:55,402 --> 00:13:58,405 did an artist take up his paintbrush. 210 00:13:58,505 --> 00:14:01,008 Of course, the absence of the undersketch in itself 211 00:14:01,108 --> 00:14:06,479 does not categorically indicate a miracle. 212 00:14:06,579 --> 00:14:10,417 But to paint as beautiful a face and bust as we 213 00:14:10,517 --> 00:14:14,754 see in Our Lady of Guadalupe on a rough cactus cloth 214 00:14:14,854 --> 00:14:17,925 is all the more remarkable. 215 00:14:18,025 --> 00:14:19,292 PHILIP CALLAHAN: This thing is miraculous 216 00:14:19,392 --> 00:14:23,363 because God willed this to take place among a people who 217 00:14:23,463 --> 00:14:27,000 needed some sort of message. 218 00:14:27,100 --> 00:14:29,937 It took place at a time when it was needed, 219 00:14:30,037 --> 00:14:31,838 and it took place because God made 220 00:14:31,939 --> 00:14:36,476 nature and God can manipulate nature any way He wants. 221 00:14:36,576 --> 00:14:42,682 The essential idea in studying the image of Guadalupe 222 00:14:42,782 --> 00:14:44,451 is that we might find something alien, 223 00:14:44,551 --> 00:14:48,855 something supernatural, and that remains an open possibility. 224 00:14:48,956 --> 00:14:53,593 But it is by no means the only possibility. 225 00:14:53,693 --> 00:14:55,828 ROBERT STACK: Perhaps no amount of scientific research 226 00:14:55,929 --> 00:15:00,500 can unlock the mystery of the image of Our Lady of Guadalupe. 227 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,836 For true believers, there is no controversy. 228 00:15:03,937 --> 00:15:07,107 As they have for centuries, pilgrims will continue to pray 229 00:15:07,207 --> 00:15:09,376 and offer thanks to the image. 230 00:15:09,476 --> 00:15:13,146 To them, the beautiful face of the Virgin Mary is purely 231 00:15:13,246 --> 00:15:15,949 and simply something of miraculous wonder. 232 00:15:22,055 --> 00:15:24,724 When we return, the search for an artist's 233 00:15:24,824 --> 00:15:26,526 precious lost legacy-- 234 00:15:26,626 --> 00:15:29,796 15 painting depicting the final days of Christ. 235 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:44,411 In "The Gospel According to John," it is written, 236 00:15:44,511 --> 00:15:49,049 "so then Pilate took Jesus and scourged him. 237 00:15:49,149 --> 00:15:51,518 And the soldiers twisted a crown of thorns, 238 00:15:51,618 --> 00:15:55,055 and they put it on his head. 239 00:15:55,155 --> 00:15:57,857 And he, bearing his cross, went out 240 00:15:57,957 --> 00:15:59,926 to a place called Golgotha." 241 00:16:03,130 --> 00:16:07,100 The Bible movingly recounts the story of the crucifixion. 242 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,703 Its power is undeniable. 243 00:16:10,803 --> 00:16:13,906 These compelling images, which illustrate the story, 244 00:16:14,007 --> 00:16:16,509 are the life's work of American artist Ben Stahl. 245 00:16:19,412 --> 00:16:21,614 There are 15 paintings in all, depicting 246 00:16:21,714 --> 00:16:25,985 the 14 stations of the cross and the Resurrection. 247 00:16:26,086 --> 00:16:28,855 Sadly, the public has not been able to view these works 248 00:16:28,955 --> 00:16:30,523 for nearly 25 years. 249 00:16:34,794 --> 00:16:38,731 It happened 10 days after Easter in 1969. 250 00:16:38,831 --> 00:16:42,602 Ben Stahl's beloved collection was stolen. 251 00:16:42,702 --> 00:16:46,239 Stahl died in 1987, still mourning the loss of the works 252 00:16:46,339 --> 00:16:48,841 he considered his masterpieces. 253 00:16:48,941 --> 00:16:50,577 Tonight, Ben Stahl's children hope 254 00:16:50,677 --> 00:16:52,179 that they can find their father's lost 255 00:16:52,279 --> 00:16:54,681 paintings in time for Easter. 256 00:16:54,781 --> 00:16:57,517 They feel that would be the most fitting and most moving 257 00:16:57,617 --> 00:16:58,918 tribute they could give him. 258 00:17:02,589 --> 00:17:06,126 Ben Stahl was born in Chicago in 1910. 259 00:17:06,226 --> 00:17:08,695 Even as a young man, he enjoyed a reputation 260 00:17:08,795 --> 00:17:12,865 as a skilled artist for books and magazines. 261 00:17:12,965 --> 00:17:16,369 Norman Rockwell once wrote in a letter to Stahl, 262 00:17:16,469 --> 00:17:18,438 "the rest of us are just illustrators, 263 00:17:18,538 --> 00:17:20,273 but you are among the masters." 264 00:17:24,377 --> 00:17:27,847 In 1954, the Catholic Press commissioned Ben Stahl 265 00:17:27,947 --> 00:17:29,616 to paint the stations of the cross 266 00:17:29,716 --> 00:17:33,686 for a special papal edition of the Bible. 267 00:17:33,786 --> 00:17:37,224 The 14 small paintings were such a resounding success 268 00:17:37,324 --> 00:17:39,259 that Ben Stahl decided to duplicate 269 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:40,627 them on a grander scale. 270 00:17:43,663 --> 00:17:44,797 REGINA STAHL BRISKEY: Over the years, 271 00:17:44,897 --> 00:17:48,034 my father would get letters from people 272 00:17:48,135 --> 00:17:50,170 all over the world wanting to see them 273 00:17:50,270 --> 00:17:51,471 and wondering where they were. 274 00:17:54,641 --> 00:17:56,943 So I guess my parents got together 275 00:17:57,043 --> 00:18:00,079 and decided to build a museum. 276 00:18:00,180 --> 00:18:02,415 And Daddy would paint a new set. 277 00:18:02,515 --> 00:18:06,253 And Daddy also added the 15th painting, 278 00:18:06,353 --> 00:18:07,587 which was the Resurrection. 279 00:18:11,090 --> 00:18:15,728 DAVID STAHL: He spent two years painting these paintings. 280 00:18:15,828 --> 00:18:18,565 There was something very special going on while he was painting 281 00:18:18,665 --> 00:18:21,368 these paintings because when he did the face of Christ 282 00:18:21,468 --> 00:18:25,938 or the head of Christ, he pulled it off in 30, 40 brushstrokes 283 00:18:26,038 --> 00:18:27,907 without ever having to do it over again. 284 00:18:28,007 --> 00:18:32,111 And he was really amazed at that. 285 00:18:32,212 --> 00:18:34,181 ROBERT STACK: In November of 1966, 286 00:18:34,281 --> 00:18:38,084 Ben Stahl opened the Museum of the Cross in Sarasota, Florida 287 00:18:38,185 --> 00:18:40,520 to house a second set of paintings. 288 00:18:40,620 --> 00:18:42,789 MALE SPEAKER: The mob seems to pull back. 289 00:18:42,889 --> 00:18:44,457 And even the Roman soldiers do not 290 00:18:44,557 --> 00:18:45,658 intrude themselves into this-- 291 00:18:45,758 --> 00:18:49,262 DAVID STAHL: It was almost holy, just 292 00:18:49,362 --> 00:18:51,731 the atmosphere at the museum. 293 00:18:51,831 --> 00:18:55,868 And people would come out with tears in their eyes. 294 00:18:55,968 --> 00:18:57,737 It was very moving for a lot of people. 295 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,075 ROBERT STACK: But on April 17, 1969, 296 00:19:03,176 --> 00:19:06,879 Ben Stahl's world came crashing down. 297 00:19:06,979 --> 00:19:10,283 Responding to a frantic phone call from the museum director, 298 00:19:10,383 --> 00:19:14,287 Stahl found the galleries ransacked. 299 00:19:14,387 --> 00:19:16,323 All 15 paintings had been stolen. 300 00:19:21,294 --> 00:19:25,365 Ben Stahl was inconsolable. 301 00:19:25,465 --> 00:19:28,034 Daddy. 302 00:19:28,134 --> 00:19:29,402 REGINA STAHL BRISKEY: He found it 303 00:19:29,502 --> 00:19:34,841 absolutely incredible that this kind of thing could happen. 304 00:19:34,941 --> 00:19:37,277 After all, who would steal religious paintings 305 00:19:37,377 --> 00:19:39,412 in the first place? 306 00:19:39,512 --> 00:19:41,548 And such large paintings. 307 00:19:41,648 --> 00:19:45,585 Where-- who-- what could you do with them? 308 00:19:45,685 --> 00:19:48,020 He had a lot of trust in people. 309 00:19:48,120 --> 00:19:51,758 Insurance was very expensive, but he didn't have any. 310 00:19:51,858 --> 00:19:54,927 There were no burglar alarms or anything 311 00:19:55,027 --> 00:19:56,963 like that because of his trust. 312 00:19:57,063 --> 00:20:00,800 So when the place was robbed, he was in total shock. 313 00:20:03,236 --> 00:20:05,137 ROBERT STACK: Police discovered that the thieves had entered 314 00:20:05,238 --> 00:20:09,141 the museum in a brazen fashion, breaking through the fire door. 315 00:20:09,242 --> 00:20:12,279 They were somehow aware that neither a security guard nor 316 00:20:12,379 --> 00:20:14,046 an alarm system was in place. 317 00:20:19,952 --> 00:20:21,621 Instead of cutting the canvases out, 318 00:20:21,721 --> 00:20:25,091 the thieves painstakingly removed each staple, 319 00:20:25,191 --> 00:20:30,263 then rolled the paintings up and made a clean getaway. 320 00:20:30,363 --> 00:20:33,165 JOHN TOWNSEND: There had to be at least three to four people 321 00:20:33,266 --> 00:20:34,701 to do this. 322 00:20:34,801 --> 00:20:38,471 And we felt that they were probably in there 323 00:20:38,571 --> 00:20:42,409 a minimum of four hours. 324 00:20:42,509 --> 00:20:45,244 ROBERT STACK: The investigation seemed to be at a dead end. 325 00:20:45,345 --> 00:20:47,614 Then, six weeks after the theft, a man 326 00:20:47,714 --> 00:20:49,649 claiming to be a Catholic priest called 327 00:20:49,749 --> 00:20:51,818 the Sarasota Sheriff's Office. 328 00:20:51,918 --> 00:20:53,686 He said he had been approached by the people 329 00:20:53,786 --> 00:20:54,954 who stole the paintings. 330 00:20:55,054 --> 00:20:57,557 Hey, father. 331 00:20:57,657 --> 00:20:58,458 Yes? 332 00:20:58,558 --> 00:21:00,527 You want the paintings? 333 00:21:00,627 --> 00:21:01,661 Paintings? 334 00:21:01,761 --> 00:21:02,562 Yeah. 335 00:21:02,662 --> 00:21:03,463 You know, the paintings? 336 00:21:03,563 --> 00:21:04,631 Paintings in Sarasota? 337 00:21:04,731 --> 00:21:06,466 Yeah, that's right. Stay right there, father. 338 00:21:06,566 --> 00:21:08,468 JOHN TOWNSEND: Of course we were elated. 339 00:21:08,568 --> 00:21:15,308 This was a break after all these weeks of investigation. 340 00:21:15,408 --> 00:21:18,044 ROBERT STACK: However, this lead, too, failed to pan out. 341 00:21:18,144 --> 00:21:19,946 The priest would not give his name, 342 00:21:20,046 --> 00:21:21,714 and eventually he broke off contact. 343 00:21:25,452 --> 00:21:28,955 What happened to Ben Stahl's paintings? 344 00:21:29,055 --> 00:21:30,890 Over the years, [inaudible] placed 345 00:21:30,990 --> 00:21:33,025 the collection in the Bahamas or in South 346 00:21:33,125 --> 00:21:36,896 America, possibly Brazil. 347 00:21:36,996 --> 00:21:38,898 The authorities, however, believe that the paintings are 348 00:21:38,998 --> 00:21:41,133 still somewhere in the United States 349 00:21:41,233 --> 00:21:43,202 and that whoever has them now may 350 00:21:43,302 --> 00:21:44,537 not even know they are stolen. 351 00:22:16,035 --> 00:22:18,037 Recently, we went to Canada to bring 352 00:22:18,137 --> 00:22:19,739 you the story of one of that country's 353 00:22:19,839 --> 00:22:23,309 great national tragedies. 354 00:22:23,410 --> 00:22:26,312 For 20 years, through a well-meaning but misguided 355 00:22:26,413 --> 00:22:30,617 social welfare system, thousands of Ojibwe Indian children 356 00:22:30,717 --> 00:22:33,386 were taken from their families and their reservations 357 00:22:33,486 --> 00:22:34,821 to be put up for adoption. 358 00:22:37,590 --> 00:22:40,359 In the segment, we profiled the Seaton family 359 00:22:40,460 --> 00:22:42,462 of Winnipeg, Manitoba. 360 00:22:42,562 --> 00:22:44,296 Is your mommy or daddy home? 361 00:22:44,397 --> 00:22:46,699 ROBERT STACK: In 1969, the six children 362 00:22:46,799 --> 00:22:49,335 were taken from their home by government social workers. 363 00:22:49,436 --> 00:22:51,337 We've come to take you away to somewhere where someone can 364 00:22:51,438 --> 00:22:52,972 take care of you, all right? 365 00:22:53,072 --> 00:22:57,176 ROBERT STACK: Sandra Seaton, the oldest, was just nine. 366 00:22:57,276 --> 00:22:58,645 SANDRA SEATON HENRY: It happened so fast. 367 00:22:58,745 --> 00:23:02,348 They just come in, and they don't really explain anything. 368 00:23:02,449 --> 00:23:08,354 They just picked up the kids and put them in the car. 369 00:23:08,455 --> 00:23:10,957 It was real scary not knowing where 370 00:23:11,057 --> 00:23:12,892 they were going to be taken. 371 00:23:12,992 --> 00:23:16,195 You kind of go a little dead inside 372 00:23:16,295 --> 00:23:21,200 or something because you just-- 373 00:23:21,300 --> 00:23:22,735 we were all just kids. 374 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:28,975 ROBERT STACK: At a court hearing, 375 00:23:29,075 --> 00:23:31,243 a judge ordered that all six children be put up 376 00:23:31,343 --> 00:23:33,946 for adoption, but Sandra never gave up 377 00:23:34,046 --> 00:23:37,016 trying to reunite her family. 378 00:23:37,116 --> 00:23:40,787 By 1988, she had found her two sisters, her mother, 379 00:23:40,887 --> 00:23:42,589 and her oldest brother. 380 00:23:42,689 --> 00:23:45,057 But the two youngest boys, Calvin and Bernie, 381 00:23:45,157 --> 00:23:45,958 were still missing. 382 00:23:48,828 --> 00:23:51,130 On the night this story aired in Canada, 383 00:23:51,230 --> 00:23:52,799 Bernie's adoptive parents and one 384 00:23:52,899 --> 00:23:56,402 of Calvin's former foster mothers were watching the show. 385 00:23:56,503 --> 00:23:58,204 Through their efforts and cooperation, 386 00:23:58,304 --> 00:23:59,572 the two brothers were put in touch 387 00:23:59,672 --> 00:24:01,508 with their sister, Sandra. 388 00:24:01,608 --> 00:24:05,177 Three weeks after our broadcast, everything was arranged. 389 00:24:05,277 --> 00:24:10,650 March 4, 1993, would be a day of reunions, joy, and tears. 390 00:24:13,986 --> 00:24:16,556 At 10:30 AM, Sandra and her mother, 391 00:24:16,656 --> 00:24:18,725 Myrna, were at the Winnipeg airport 392 00:24:18,825 --> 00:24:20,092 awaiting the arrival of Bernie. 393 00:24:20,192 --> 00:24:20,993 Is that him? 394 00:24:21,093 --> 00:24:22,261 I don't even know! 395 00:24:22,361 --> 00:24:23,996 SANDRA SEATON HENRY: I had such an anxious feeling, 396 00:24:24,096 --> 00:24:26,666 just looking and wondering because we 397 00:24:26,766 --> 00:24:28,034 hadn't seen Bernie at all. 398 00:24:28,134 --> 00:24:31,003 We didn't see no picture. 399 00:24:31,103 --> 00:24:35,474 Oh, I just-- and then, all of the sudden, his face 400 00:24:35,575 --> 00:24:39,278 just was right there and I thought, oh, that's him. 401 00:24:46,352 --> 00:24:49,188 [crying] 402 00:24:53,225 --> 00:24:54,594 I love you all. 403 00:24:54,694 --> 00:24:57,029 We love you, too. 404 00:24:57,129 --> 00:24:58,898 ROBERT STACK: With Bernie back in the fold, 405 00:24:58,998 --> 00:25:00,700 the group headed to Myrna's house, 406 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,301 where they knew Calvin would be waiting. 407 00:25:15,014 --> 00:25:18,217 In his youth, Calvin had been shunted about to 14 408 00:25:18,317 --> 00:25:20,319 different foster families. 409 00:25:20,419 --> 00:25:23,690 Now he was finally home again after nearly 25 years. 410 00:25:23,790 --> 00:25:24,591 It's Bernie. 411 00:25:24,691 --> 00:25:26,492 Mom and Bernie. 412 00:25:26,593 --> 00:25:28,427 Hey, not so little. 413 00:25:28,527 --> 00:25:30,129 TONY TAVOLINO: It feels really good to be taken in 414 00:25:30,229 --> 00:25:33,265 instead of being pushed away. 415 00:25:33,365 --> 00:25:36,869 This is a big switch for me and I'm happy. 416 00:25:40,707 --> 00:25:42,875 If I knew bigger words, I probably 417 00:25:42,975 --> 00:25:45,444 could say some big word that would describe how I feel right 418 00:25:45,544 --> 00:25:49,515 now, but there's no words that I can 419 00:25:49,616 --> 00:25:50,717 think of that describes this. 420 00:25:53,886 --> 00:25:54,987 It's the beginning. 421 00:25:55,087 --> 00:25:58,390 I just think it's the beginning of a good thing. 422 00:25:58,490 --> 00:25:59,792 It's all good. 423 00:25:59,892 --> 00:26:03,262 It feels great, just great that there's a piece of my life put 424 00:26:03,362 --> 00:26:06,633 together, which I think all my friends knew 425 00:26:06,733 --> 00:26:07,967 that there was a piece missing. 426 00:26:08,067 --> 00:26:10,770 Maybe this is just the part to my life that was missing. 427 00:26:15,675 --> 00:26:18,544 We've got so much to talk about, you know? 428 00:26:18,645 --> 00:26:19,846 So much. 429 00:26:19,946 --> 00:26:21,648 SANDRA SEATON HENRY: It's just a really great feeling. 430 00:26:21,748 --> 00:26:22,849 There is a piece, you know. 431 00:26:22,949 --> 00:26:28,921 There was always that piece of my heart 432 00:26:29,021 --> 00:26:35,828 somehow just needed to know that they were OK. 433 00:26:35,928 --> 00:26:37,797 Each one of us has our own lives, 434 00:26:37,897 --> 00:26:40,967 but it's so good to know that we have family. 435 00:26:53,579 --> 00:26:57,917 [rock music playing] 436 00:27:06,859 --> 00:27:09,261 ROBERT STACK: Tom Roche and Barbara Rondeau of Burbank, 437 00:27:09,361 --> 00:27:11,798 California love nothing better than to fire up 438 00:27:11,898 --> 00:27:13,599 their Harley-Davidson and hit the road. 439 00:27:19,405 --> 00:27:22,108 They belonged to a club that often drove on weekend trips 440 00:27:22,208 --> 00:27:23,575 across California. 441 00:27:27,113 --> 00:27:29,048 Barbara and Tom met in Rhode Island, then 442 00:27:29,148 --> 00:27:31,918 moved to California in 1988. 443 00:27:32,018 --> 00:27:37,123 After 16 years together, cycling was a passion they shared. 444 00:27:37,223 --> 00:27:40,559 BARBARA RONDEAU: We've known each other since '76 445 00:27:40,659 --> 00:27:45,664 and all our extra time was spent riding. 446 00:27:45,765 --> 00:27:51,003 Tom's my father, lover, teacher, guide. 447 00:27:53,973 --> 00:27:56,342 Tom's my life. 448 00:27:56,442 --> 00:27:58,177 ROBERT STACK: Like their fellow cycle club members 449 00:27:58,277 --> 00:28:00,546 who were lawyers, plumbers, and accountants, 450 00:28:00,646 --> 00:28:04,216 Tom and Barbara held steady, everyday jobs. 451 00:28:04,316 --> 00:28:05,617 In other factories we're working at, 452 00:28:05,718 --> 00:28:07,019 we've got bigger tanks than this. 453 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:07,954 Oh, is that right? 454 00:28:08,054 --> 00:28:09,188 Sure. 455 00:28:09,288 --> 00:28:11,223 ROBERT STACK: Barbara worked at a blueprint company. 456 00:28:11,323 --> 00:28:14,093 Tom was an expert in metal plating. 457 00:28:14,193 --> 00:28:18,164 In the fall of 1991, he accepted a well-paid management position 458 00:28:18,264 --> 00:28:21,167 with a company that plated aircraft parts. 459 00:28:21,267 --> 00:28:23,635 He was to start on Monday, September 16. 460 00:28:29,075 --> 00:28:31,510 Three days before, on Friday the 13th, 461 00:28:31,610 --> 00:28:34,113 Tom drove Barbara to work. 462 00:28:34,213 --> 00:28:35,614 They made plans to meet for lunch. 463 00:28:35,714 --> 00:28:37,083 Listen, I gotta go to the chrome shop. 464 00:28:37,183 --> 00:28:38,450 Are you still gonna be here at noon? 465 00:28:38,550 --> 00:28:39,618 - Absolutely. - OK. 466 00:28:39,718 --> 00:28:40,619 Don't be late. - I'll miss you. 467 00:28:40,719 --> 00:28:41,520 Bye. 468 00:28:41,620 --> 00:28:42,588 Bye-bye. 469 00:28:42,688 --> 00:28:43,756 ROBERT STACK: But Tom never showed 470 00:28:43,856 --> 00:28:45,858 up and never called to explain. 471 00:28:49,395 --> 00:28:51,397 BARBARA RONDEAU: My lunchtime came around 472 00:28:51,497 --> 00:28:53,465 and he wasn't there. 473 00:28:53,565 --> 00:28:57,536 So just hanging around, waiting for him, and no show, no show. 474 00:28:57,636 --> 00:29:01,440 And I thought maybe that he might have gotten caught up 475 00:29:01,540 --> 00:29:03,876 at his new place of employment. 476 00:29:03,976 --> 00:29:06,879 But in fact, he would have called me and said, Barbara, 477 00:29:06,979 --> 00:29:09,348 I'm not going to be able to make it. 478 00:29:09,448 --> 00:29:13,419 I'm still at the plating shop, or whatever. 479 00:29:13,519 --> 00:29:18,324 Tom wouldn't have let me just hang there, waiting on him. 480 00:29:18,424 --> 00:29:20,759 ROBERT STACK: By the time Barbara got home at about 5:30 481 00:29:20,860 --> 00:29:23,129 PM, she still had not heard from Tom. 482 00:29:23,229 --> 00:29:25,297 Tom? 483 00:29:25,397 --> 00:29:26,665 ROBERT STACK: She was surprised to find 484 00:29:26,765 --> 00:29:27,867 the front door unlocked. 485 00:29:27,967 --> 00:29:28,767 Tom! 486 00:29:52,758 --> 00:29:53,559 Tom? 487 00:29:56,195 --> 00:29:57,496 BARBARA RONDEAU: There was no sign of Tom. 488 00:30:00,532 --> 00:30:03,369 Everything was in its place except for Tom. 489 00:30:03,469 --> 00:30:04,270 Tom? 490 00:30:07,706 --> 00:30:10,442 ROBERT STACK: But an ominous pattern soon emerged. 491 00:30:10,542 --> 00:30:12,644 The newspaper was still unopened. 492 00:30:12,744 --> 00:30:17,483 Strange, since Tom rarely left the sports page unread. 493 00:30:17,583 --> 00:30:19,251 A motorcycle battery that Tom had 494 00:30:19,351 --> 00:30:23,289 planned to install that morning was on the counter. 495 00:30:23,389 --> 00:30:26,358 The answering machine was off, suggesting Tom had planned 496 00:30:26,458 --> 00:30:28,827 to be at home most of the day. 497 00:30:28,928 --> 00:30:31,530 Barbara had no choice but to wait and hope. 498 00:30:35,868 --> 00:30:40,907 BARBARA RONDEAU: I didn't sleep at all that night. 499 00:30:41,007 --> 00:30:43,943 Just trying to figure out where Tom was 500 00:30:44,043 --> 00:30:48,814 and why he hadn't called to let me know where he might be. 501 00:30:55,454 --> 00:30:57,256 CARL COSTANZO: There's a lot of different circumstances 502 00:30:57,356 --> 00:30:59,591 for different types of missing persons. 503 00:30:59,691 --> 00:31:02,228 They could take off because of family problems. 504 00:31:02,328 --> 00:31:04,230 They can take off because of money problems. 505 00:31:04,330 --> 00:31:06,899 They can take off for a number of different reasons. 506 00:31:06,999 --> 00:31:09,535 We really don't know the reason until we get into talking 507 00:31:09,635 --> 00:31:11,437 with the family or friends. 508 00:31:11,537 --> 00:31:17,543 If Tom, in fact, wanted to get out of our relationship, 509 00:31:17,643 --> 00:31:20,312 or if, again, there was a problem, 510 00:31:20,412 --> 00:31:23,282 Tom would have just told me right out. 511 00:31:23,382 --> 00:31:27,286 Do you see a lot of people going in and out of that house? 512 00:31:27,386 --> 00:31:29,688 No, just him and Barb. 513 00:31:29,788 --> 00:31:30,957 ROBERT STACK: Routine questioning 514 00:31:31,057 --> 00:31:34,126 around the neighborhood turned up nothing significant. 515 00:31:34,226 --> 00:31:35,794 Police could not determine whether Tom 516 00:31:35,894 --> 00:31:38,197 had left voluntarily or become the victim 517 00:31:38,297 --> 00:31:40,399 of some kind of violence. 518 00:31:40,499 --> 00:31:44,536 It was as though Tom Roche had simply evaporated. 519 00:31:44,636 --> 00:31:47,039 However, Barbara was convinced something terrible had 520 00:31:47,139 --> 00:31:50,009 happened to Tom and she circulated these flyers 521 00:31:50,109 --> 00:31:52,078 at his usual hangouts. 522 00:31:52,178 --> 00:31:54,813 No one came forward with any information, 523 00:31:54,913 --> 00:31:57,950 and Tom Roche was officially listed as a missing person. 524 00:32:01,820 --> 00:32:04,056 A day passed, then two. 525 00:32:04,156 --> 00:32:05,657 Soon, five. 526 00:32:05,757 --> 00:32:09,628 Barbara's father flew in from Rhode Island to be with her. 527 00:32:09,728 --> 00:32:13,532 Then, on Thursday, September 19, a letter arrived addressed 528 00:32:13,632 --> 00:32:16,035 to the family of Tom Roche. 529 00:32:16,135 --> 00:32:16,969 Oh, Tom! 530 00:32:20,472 --> 00:32:21,273 Dad! 531 00:32:25,677 --> 00:32:27,446 ROBERT STACK: In the envelope were Tom's driver's 532 00:32:27,546 --> 00:32:29,015 license and the earring he had been 533 00:32:29,115 --> 00:32:31,883 wearing the day he disappeared. 534 00:32:31,984 --> 00:32:33,852 They were enfolded in a letter-- 535 00:32:33,952 --> 00:32:36,422 a bizarre confession that would wrench the case 536 00:32:36,522 --> 00:32:38,557 in a sinister new direction. 537 00:32:41,927 --> 00:32:44,997 This is the actual letter received by Barbara Rondeau. 538 00:32:45,097 --> 00:32:49,535 It begins, "you don't know me and hopefully never will, 539 00:32:49,635 --> 00:32:52,438 but I am the one who killed Tom Roche. 540 00:32:52,538 --> 00:32:55,141 I sent along some personal belongings of his just 541 00:32:55,241 --> 00:32:57,076 so that you won't think this is some kind 542 00:32:57,176 --> 00:32:59,578 of sick joke or anything." 543 00:32:59,678 --> 00:33:02,948 Finally, the self-proclaimed killer goes on to say, 544 00:33:03,049 --> 00:33:05,384 "I am very sorry for what I have done. 545 00:33:05,484 --> 00:33:08,187 I know in time that the guilt will leave me. 546 00:33:08,287 --> 00:33:11,390 So will your pain." 547 00:33:11,490 --> 00:33:14,926 Barbara, did Tom have any enemies? 548 00:33:15,027 --> 00:33:18,730 Was there someone who might have wanted to hurt him? 549 00:33:18,830 --> 00:33:21,567 Nobody that knew Tim would want to hurt him. 550 00:33:24,570 --> 00:33:26,905 ROBERT STACK: Barbara Rondeau was devastated. 551 00:33:27,005 --> 00:33:30,876 Had Tom Roche been murdered, or was the letter a hoax? 552 00:33:30,976 --> 00:33:34,280 It yielded no fingerprints, bore no return address, 553 00:33:34,380 --> 00:33:35,681 and was, of course, unsigned. 554 00:33:38,317 --> 00:33:40,686 BARBARA RONDEAU: It was just unbelievable. 555 00:33:40,786 --> 00:33:46,925 But I wasn't going to believe that Tom was dead. 556 00:33:51,597 --> 00:33:52,998 ROBERT STACK: Authorities immediately renewed 557 00:33:53,099 --> 00:33:54,733 their efforts to track Tom Roche's 558 00:33:54,833 --> 00:33:56,368 activities on Friday the 13th. 559 00:33:59,004 --> 00:34:01,107 Bank records show Tom made two deposits 560 00:34:01,207 --> 00:34:05,144 at approximately 8:20 AM. 561 00:34:05,244 --> 00:34:07,613 He did not withdraw any money, indicating 562 00:34:07,713 --> 00:34:10,182 he had no plans to leave town. 563 00:34:10,282 --> 00:34:13,585 I gotta meet my old lady at noon for lunch. 564 00:34:13,685 --> 00:34:16,422 She'll be real hot if I'm late. 565 00:34:16,522 --> 00:34:18,424 ROBERT STACK: Tom was next seen by a neighbor, 566 00:34:18,524 --> 00:34:23,895 talking with an unidentified white male at about 9:30 AM. 567 00:34:23,995 --> 00:34:27,599 If the letter is not a hoax, then police believe this man 568 00:34:27,699 --> 00:34:30,702 may have been Tom's killer. 569 00:34:30,802 --> 00:34:32,771 CARL COSTANZO: We contacted one witness who told us 570 00:34:32,871 --> 00:34:37,176 that she had seen Thomas that morning with another subject, 571 00:34:37,276 --> 00:34:39,378 standing by a pickup truck, looking into the bed 572 00:34:39,478 --> 00:34:41,147 of the pickup truck. 573 00:34:41,247 --> 00:34:42,981 She said that they were not arguing. 574 00:34:43,081 --> 00:34:44,783 It looked like they were just carrying 575 00:34:44,883 --> 00:34:47,286 on a normal conversation and there was 576 00:34:47,386 --> 00:34:49,288 nothing suspicious about that. 577 00:34:49,388 --> 00:34:51,790 And I believe that was the last time Thomas was seen. 578 00:34:51,890 --> 00:34:52,691 OK. 579 00:34:52,791 --> 00:34:55,261 Start at first [inaudible]. 580 00:34:55,361 --> 00:34:57,129 ROBERT STACK: However, testimony from one eyewitness 581 00:34:57,229 --> 00:35:00,532 suggests the letter may indeed be a hoax. 582 00:35:00,632 --> 00:35:04,102 An employee at a motorcycle parts store in nearby Glendale 583 00:35:04,203 --> 00:35:08,707 is convinced Tom came in on Saturday, September 14, one day 584 00:35:08,807 --> 00:35:12,711 after the letter said Tom was killed. 585 00:35:12,811 --> 00:35:16,014 ANDY MARSALA: He acted a little strange in the sense 586 00:35:16,114 --> 00:35:17,783 that he didn't joke around with me. 587 00:35:20,619 --> 00:35:23,222 We would always joke around about what kind of motorcycle 588 00:35:23,322 --> 00:35:26,625 he rode and about it leaking oil and stuff. 589 00:35:26,725 --> 00:35:29,661 I knew Tom well enough to know Saturday 590 00:35:29,761 --> 00:35:32,964 that it was Tom that came in. 591 00:35:33,064 --> 00:35:34,733 I had gone into the warehouse to pick 592 00:35:34,833 --> 00:35:37,736 up some parts for the customer. 593 00:35:37,836 --> 00:35:40,572 And when I came out Tom, wasn't there 594 00:35:40,672 --> 00:35:43,809 or anything, so he must have left 595 00:35:43,909 --> 00:35:45,577 when I was in the warehouse. 596 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,217 I just feel it's kind of strange that he 597 00:35:51,317 --> 00:35:53,585 didn't say anything when he came in or when he left. 598 00:35:56,021 --> 00:35:57,022 ROBERT STACK: Authorities believe 599 00:35:57,122 --> 00:36:00,226 Andy Marsala did see Tom Roche but suspect 600 00:36:00,326 --> 00:36:02,628 he is mistaken about the date. 601 00:36:02,728 --> 00:36:06,298 However, the account raises a disturbing possibility. 602 00:36:06,398 --> 00:36:09,268 Perhaps Tom Roche intentionally fled and wrote 603 00:36:09,368 --> 00:36:11,403 the grotesque letter to cover his tracks. 604 00:36:15,207 --> 00:36:16,808 Four months passed. 605 00:36:16,908 --> 00:36:20,178 With no clues, no eyewitnesses, and no further letters, 606 00:36:20,279 --> 00:36:23,215 the investigation dragged to a standstill. 607 00:36:23,315 --> 00:36:28,287 Until January 11, 1992. 608 00:36:28,387 --> 00:36:29,688 Hey! 609 00:36:29,788 --> 00:36:32,023 [inaudible] 610 00:36:32,123 --> 00:36:34,560 ROBERT STACK: That afternoon, authorities in Placer County, 611 00:36:34,660 --> 00:36:38,163 California, almost 500 miles north of Burbank, 612 00:36:38,264 --> 00:36:40,732 were called to investigate a report of weathered bone 613 00:36:40,832 --> 00:36:44,102 fragments and personal effects strewn over a remote hillside. 614 00:36:46,772 --> 00:36:49,107 Motorcycle emblems on some of the clothing 615 00:36:49,207 --> 00:36:53,144 eventually led authorities to link the items to Tom Roche. 616 00:36:53,245 --> 00:36:54,346 Rush. 617 00:36:54,446 --> 00:36:56,915 Rush, I need a bag. 618 00:36:57,015 --> 00:36:58,216 ROBERT STACK: The scattered possessions 619 00:36:58,317 --> 00:37:02,488 included a duffel bag, flashlight, hunting knife, 620 00:37:02,588 --> 00:37:06,625 bottled water, two pairs of prescription eyeglasses, 621 00:37:06,725 --> 00:37:11,162 an empty prescription medicine bottle, and several shirts. 622 00:37:11,263 --> 00:37:14,366 If the items were indeed Tom's, he seemed to have been 623 00:37:14,466 --> 00:37:17,969 packed and ready for the road. 624 00:37:18,069 --> 00:37:20,906 Investigators contacted Barbara Rondeau. 625 00:37:21,006 --> 00:37:23,241 She recognized all the shirts and a pair 626 00:37:23,342 --> 00:37:27,313 of eyeglass frames as Tom's. 627 00:37:27,413 --> 00:37:33,084 BARBARA RONDEAU: I do feel that what they found is Tom, 628 00:37:33,184 --> 00:37:39,858 but there's that hope that he is still out there somewhere 629 00:37:39,958 --> 00:37:41,327 and that, in fact, I will find him. 630 00:37:50,168 --> 00:37:52,871 ROBERT STACK: What is the truth about Tom Roche? 631 00:37:52,971 --> 00:37:55,441 The mysterious letter, taken at face value, 632 00:37:55,541 --> 00:37:59,611 would explain Tom's disappearance unless it was 633 00:37:59,711 --> 00:38:03,482 written by Tom Roche himself. 634 00:38:03,582 --> 00:38:06,151 It has been a nightmare. 635 00:38:06,251 --> 00:38:09,555 It has been hell. 636 00:38:09,655 --> 00:38:10,756 I still live for Tom. 637 00:38:13,659 --> 00:38:14,460 He's my life. 638 00:38:18,530 --> 00:38:21,633 There's not a minute that goes by that he's 639 00:38:21,733 --> 00:38:23,068 not within my thoughts. 640 00:38:25,871 --> 00:38:27,038 He'll always be within me. 641 00:38:30,909 --> 00:38:33,078 It is interesting to note that this letter claims 642 00:38:33,178 --> 00:38:34,980 Tom Roche was murdered and then buried 643 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,516 in the Los Angeles area, nearly 500 644 00:38:37,616 --> 00:38:40,018 miles south of Placer County. 645 00:38:40,118 --> 00:38:41,653 Within the next few months, authorities 646 00:38:41,753 --> 00:38:44,456 will conduct DNA tests on the bone fragments 647 00:38:44,556 --> 00:38:47,559 to finally prove whether they are Tom's remains. 648 00:38:47,659 --> 00:38:49,928 Until then, the only person who may 649 00:38:50,028 --> 00:38:52,498 be able to answer the questions in this case 650 00:38:52,598 --> 00:38:54,299 is the author of the letter. 651 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,535 And for now, his identity remains a mystery. 652 00:39:15,153 --> 00:39:18,490 When we return, the only clues in a murder case 653 00:39:18,590 --> 00:39:21,326 come from the victim himself before he dies. 654 00:39:31,169 --> 00:39:33,071 Fortunately, the only contact most of us 655 00:39:33,171 --> 00:39:35,240 will ever have with random violent crime 656 00:39:35,340 --> 00:39:38,376 is watching the nightly news, but random crime 657 00:39:38,477 --> 00:39:42,380 is very real, extremely difficult for police to solve, 658 00:39:42,481 --> 00:39:44,382 and utterly impossible for families touched 659 00:39:44,483 --> 00:39:47,018 by the violence to comprehend. 660 00:39:47,118 --> 00:39:50,355 One such family was the Hurleys of Turtle Creek, Pennsylvania. 661 00:39:53,692 --> 00:39:56,895 Pam and David Hurley were married in 1983. 662 00:39:56,995 --> 00:40:02,133 By 1988, their family had grown to include three sons. 663 00:40:02,233 --> 00:40:05,203 The Hurleys shared an undramatic, but happy, life 664 00:40:05,303 --> 00:40:11,209 until the early morning hours of Saturday, June 13, 1992. 665 00:40:11,309 --> 00:40:13,278 That weekend, David and his brother 666 00:40:13,378 --> 00:40:14,980 were taking a troop of Boy Scouts 667 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,917 on a long-planned canoe trip. 668 00:40:19,017 --> 00:40:21,887 DAVID: Honey. 669 00:40:21,987 --> 00:40:24,523 Honey, I'm just going to go. 670 00:40:24,623 --> 00:40:26,124 I'm too wound up to sleep. 671 00:40:26,224 --> 00:40:27,526 I'm going to go pick up some donuts 672 00:40:27,626 --> 00:40:31,229 and head over to my brother's, hang out there till we go, OK? 673 00:40:31,329 --> 00:40:32,130 OK. 674 00:40:32,230 --> 00:40:33,832 You have a good weekend. 675 00:40:33,932 --> 00:40:34,733 You, too. 676 00:40:34,833 --> 00:40:35,634 I love you. 677 00:40:35,734 --> 00:40:36,535 Love you, too. 678 00:40:36,635 --> 00:40:38,003 You be really careful. 679 00:40:38,103 --> 00:40:41,740 ROBERT STACK: David left home at 1:30 AM. 680 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,008 DAVID: Pam? 681 00:40:43,108 --> 00:40:44,342 ROBERT STACK: About an hour and a half 682 00:40:44,442 --> 00:40:47,412 later, Pam was startled to hear her husband calling out. 683 00:40:47,513 --> 00:40:48,313 David? 684 00:40:51,049 --> 00:40:54,285 DAVID: Pammy, could you come down here? 685 00:40:54,385 --> 00:40:57,489 What are you doing home? 686 00:40:57,589 --> 00:40:59,057 DAVID: Pam? 687 00:40:59,157 --> 00:41:03,328 I need you to come down here. 688 00:41:03,428 --> 00:41:04,830 Pammy. 689 00:41:04,930 --> 00:41:06,097 I've been shot. 690 00:41:06,197 --> 00:41:06,965 What? 691 00:41:07,065 --> 00:41:07,999 I've been shot. 692 00:41:08,099 --> 00:41:09,668 What are you talking about? 693 00:41:09,768 --> 00:41:10,869 Oh, my god. 694 00:41:10,969 --> 00:41:13,639 PAM HURLEY: I was stunned and thoroughly shocked. 695 00:41:13,739 --> 00:41:16,908 I just couldn't comprehend that he had been shot. 696 00:41:17,008 --> 00:41:20,512 That was just too unbelievable. 697 00:41:20,612 --> 00:41:23,114 ROBERT STACK: While they waited for paramedics to arrive, 698 00:41:23,214 --> 00:41:25,150 David told his wife about the chilling 699 00:41:25,250 --> 00:41:28,520 events of that morning. 700 00:41:28,620 --> 00:41:30,455 David had stopped for donuts and was heading 701 00:41:30,556 --> 00:41:32,257 toward his brother's house. 702 00:41:32,357 --> 00:41:35,627 Suddenly, a car appeared out of nowhere. 703 00:41:35,727 --> 00:41:36,528 Whoa! 704 00:41:41,933 --> 00:41:43,368 ROBERT STACK: David told Pam he expected 705 00:41:43,468 --> 00:41:45,604 simply to exchange insurance information 706 00:41:45,704 --> 00:41:47,205 with the other driver. 707 00:41:47,305 --> 00:41:49,207 What happened next defies reason. 708 00:41:52,043 --> 00:41:53,945 Hey, man, what's going on? 709 00:41:54,045 --> 00:41:55,847 What the hell you talking about? 710 00:41:55,947 --> 00:41:56,748 Are you all right? 711 00:41:56,848 --> 00:41:57,649 Am I all right? 712 00:42:00,385 --> 00:42:01,319 Hey, man. 713 00:42:01,419 --> 00:42:02,220 Hey, man! 714 00:42:18,169 --> 00:42:21,306 PAM HURLEY: He said all he can remember is getting in the van 715 00:42:21,406 --> 00:42:25,243 and trying desperately to get home, to get away. 716 00:42:25,343 --> 00:42:26,144 I don't know. 717 00:42:26,244 --> 00:42:28,413 He was average size. 718 00:42:28,513 --> 00:42:29,781 ROBERT STACK: Police and paramedics 719 00:42:29,881 --> 00:42:34,886 arrived at around 3:30 AM and David told his story again. 720 00:42:34,986 --> 00:42:38,757 MICHAEL PRUEY: He was calm for a person who'd just been shot. 721 00:42:38,857 --> 00:42:41,927 He was able to give me the information I was asking 722 00:42:42,027 --> 00:42:45,096 for so we could stop this vehicle before it 723 00:42:45,196 --> 00:42:47,065 got too far away from our area. 724 00:42:47,165 --> 00:42:49,601 At that particular time, I was concerned 725 00:42:49,701 --> 00:42:51,502 with getting information that I could 726 00:42:51,603 --> 00:42:54,172 put on the air for the other units that 727 00:42:54,272 --> 00:42:55,440 were still out on the road. 728 00:42:55,540 --> 00:42:57,575 But you're going to be just fine. 729 00:42:57,676 --> 00:42:59,477 ROBERT STACK: David Hurley would be rushed by helicopter 730 00:42:59,577 --> 00:43:01,546 to Presbyterian University Hospital 731 00:43:01,647 --> 00:43:04,282 in Pittsburgh 6 miles away. 732 00:43:04,382 --> 00:43:08,286 At 4:30 AM, he was wheeled into emergency surgery. 733 00:43:08,386 --> 00:43:12,557 His doctors emerged from the operating room two hours later. 734 00:43:12,658 --> 00:43:16,061 And I remember we looked at the clock, and it was 6:30 AM. 735 00:43:16,161 --> 00:43:18,563 And I looked at my brother and I said, this is great. 736 00:43:18,664 --> 00:43:19,597 They're done already. 737 00:43:19,698 --> 00:43:21,566 It must have been a lot better than we 738 00:43:21,667 --> 00:43:23,468 expected because we expected four to five 739 00:43:23,568 --> 00:43:26,571 hours from what they told us. 740 00:43:26,672 --> 00:43:28,506 ROBERT STACK: In addition to gunshot wounds in the arm 741 00:43:28,606 --> 00:43:31,009 and shoulder, David was bleeding internally 742 00:43:31,109 --> 00:43:33,044 from a lacerated liver. 743 00:43:33,144 --> 00:43:35,781 The surgeon told Pam that the operation had progressed 744 00:43:35,881 --> 00:43:38,016 well until, without warning, David 745 00:43:38,116 --> 00:43:40,051 went into acute cardiac arrest. 746 00:43:43,221 --> 00:43:46,758 I said, you've got to be kidding. 747 00:43:46,858 --> 00:43:50,228 And he said, no, I'm not kidding. 748 00:43:50,328 --> 00:43:51,129 He's dead. 749 00:43:56,267 --> 00:43:57,769 ROBERT STACK: David Eugene Hurley, 750 00:43:57,869 --> 00:44:01,272 husband and father of three, murdered at the age of 34. 751 00:44:05,543 --> 00:44:07,879 In searching for David's killer, police 752 00:44:07,979 --> 00:44:10,248 are limited to the sketchy information Hurley 753 00:44:10,348 --> 00:44:12,617 himself gave before he died. 754 00:44:12,718 --> 00:44:13,985 Hey, man! 755 00:44:14,085 --> 00:44:16,021 ROBERT LAZZARO: We only have the description 756 00:44:16,121 --> 00:44:21,159 of a young, black male driving a champagne-colored Honda 757 00:44:21,259 --> 00:44:22,961 Prelude. 758 00:44:23,061 --> 00:44:25,864 And it's a good possibility that this individual is local. 759 00:44:28,666 --> 00:44:32,971 PAM HURLEY: When someone you love dies, it's very painful. 760 00:44:33,071 --> 00:44:34,139 And that never goes away. 761 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,374 And I'm sure that never will. 762 00:44:36,474 --> 00:44:40,211 But that pain is also turning to anger. 763 00:44:40,311 --> 00:44:42,981 To realize that there's a person out there 764 00:44:43,081 --> 00:44:48,119 continuing with his life as if nothing happened just 765 00:44:48,219 --> 00:44:49,354 makes me very angry. 766 00:44:53,358 --> 00:44:55,326 David Hurley was attacked along Route 22 767 00:44:55,426 --> 00:45:00,331 in Wilkins Township, Pennsylvania on June 13, 1992. 768 00:45:00,431 --> 00:45:01,733 During the few moments Hurley was 769 00:45:01,833 --> 00:45:03,969 face to face with the assailant, he noticed 770 00:45:04,069 --> 00:45:06,004 no unusual characteristics. 771 00:45:06,104 --> 00:45:08,639 And at this time, police lack sufficient information 772 00:45:08,740 --> 00:45:10,742 to produce even a sketch of the suspect. 773 00:45:20,251 --> 00:45:22,087 Join me next time. 774 00:45:22,187 --> 00:45:24,589 Perhaps you hold that crucial clue which 775 00:45:24,689 --> 00:45:26,758 could help solve a mystery. 776 00:45:26,858 --> 00:45:30,996 [music playing] 61333

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