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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,705 --> 00:00:07,441 ANNOUNCER: This program is about unsolved mysteries. 2 00:00:07,541 --> 00:00:09,443 Whenever possible, the actual family members 3 00:00:09,543 --> 00:00:11,379 and police officials have participated 4 00:00:11,479 --> 00:00:13,013 in recreating the events. 5 00:00:13,114 --> 00:00:15,316 What you are about to see is not a news broadcast. 6 00:00:20,288 --> 00:00:21,855 ROBERT STACK: In a rural area of Canada, 7 00:00:21,955 --> 00:00:24,292 a woman claimed to see unusual red flames 8 00:00:24,392 --> 00:00:26,627 and an extraordinary flying object landing 9 00:00:26,727 --> 00:00:28,529 in a field behind her house. 10 00:00:28,629 --> 00:00:31,699 Six months later, this remarkable videotape, 11 00:00:31,799 --> 00:00:33,501 broadcast the night for the first time 12 00:00:33,601 --> 00:00:37,205 on network television, seemed to verify her account. 13 00:00:37,305 --> 00:00:39,640 Could it be evidence of a close encounter or 14 00:00:39,740 --> 00:00:43,144 a clever, sophisticated hoax? 15 00:00:43,244 --> 00:00:45,946 After Geraldine George separated from her husband, Larry, 16 00:00:46,046 --> 00:00:49,483 she had no idea that he was watching her every move. 17 00:00:49,583 --> 00:00:52,420 Finally, Larry George erupted in a jealous rage, 18 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,888 shot Geraldine, and left two innocent people 19 00:00:54,988 --> 00:00:57,391 murdered in his wake. 20 00:00:57,491 --> 00:01:01,229 In September of 1992, this mysterious young woman 21 00:01:01,329 --> 00:01:03,964 showed up in a small California community. 22 00:01:04,064 --> 00:01:07,768 She has no identification and can neither speak nor hear. 23 00:01:07,868 --> 00:01:12,706 Perhaps you know who she is and where she came from. 24 00:01:12,806 --> 00:01:15,576 Also, a poignant, heartwarming update. 25 00:01:15,676 --> 00:01:18,045 While watching a recent broadcast, one of our viewers 26 00:01:18,146 --> 00:01:19,547 was surprised to discover that he 27 00:01:19,647 --> 00:01:21,915 was a subject of an intense 30-year search 28 00:01:22,015 --> 00:01:24,118 by his long-lost sister. 29 00:01:24,218 --> 00:01:26,954 We'll share their remarkable reunion on tonight's 30 00:01:27,054 --> 00:01:29,523 "Unsolved Mysteries." 31 00:01:29,623 --> 00:01:34,528 [theme music] 32 00:02:25,979 --> 00:02:27,848 The Canadian township of West Carleton 33 00:02:27,948 --> 00:02:30,918 lies 40 miles north of the Canadian/United States border 34 00:02:31,018 --> 00:02:33,153 in the province of Ontario. 35 00:02:33,254 --> 00:02:36,123 Life in West Carleton is usually unremarkable. 36 00:02:36,224 --> 00:02:38,959 But late in 1991, one resident had 37 00:02:39,059 --> 00:02:40,594 an extraordinary experience. 38 00:02:43,597 --> 00:02:46,099 On August 18, at around 10:00 PM, 39 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,069 Diane Labenek had just put her children to bed. 40 00:02:49,169 --> 00:02:50,971 Her husband was out running an errand 41 00:02:51,071 --> 00:02:53,507 when the dogs began to howl. 42 00:02:53,607 --> 00:02:55,976 [barking] 43 00:02:57,611 --> 00:03:00,147 DIANE LABENEK: I walked right to the window 44 00:03:00,248 --> 00:03:04,918 and I saw flames right on the back of to field, extremely 45 00:03:05,018 --> 00:03:08,722 red flames and lots of smoke. 46 00:03:08,822 --> 00:03:10,358 It didn't look like a fire. 47 00:03:10,458 --> 00:03:11,825 I know what a fire looks like when 48 00:03:11,925 --> 00:03:13,193 you start a fire out there. 49 00:03:13,294 --> 00:03:15,996 And the grass was very dry, so if you start a fire, 50 00:03:16,096 --> 00:03:17,931 you will see it moving, whether this way 51 00:03:18,031 --> 00:03:20,868 or closer to the woods, and the fire was standing on one spot 52 00:03:20,968 --> 00:03:21,769 only. 53 00:03:30,077 --> 00:03:34,648 I saw a ship coming down close to the flames. 54 00:03:34,748 --> 00:03:39,420 Right on top of this ship, I saw a blue flashing light. 55 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,690 And another light was on the bottom, very bright. 56 00:03:42,790 --> 00:03:45,493 I didn't know what to do. 57 00:03:45,593 --> 00:03:47,728 I was looking at it about 10 minutes or so. 58 00:03:50,364 --> 00:03:53,567 And then the ship went a little bit back over the trees, 59 00:03:53,667 --> 00:03:55,002 and it disappeared. 60 00:03:55,102 --> 00:03:59,440 I saw all the flames turn out at the same time. 61 00:03:59,540 --> 00:04:01,275 I don't think I'd like to see it again. 62 00:04:01,375 --> 00:04:02,310 It's very scary. 63 00:04:02,410 --> 00:04:04,278 I lived here for many, many years 64 00:04:04,378 --> 00:04:07,415 and I have never been so scared in my life. 65 00:04:07,515 --> 00:04:10,718 It did enter my mind to phone the police. 66 00:04:10,818 --> 00:04:13,987 When this was all over, I came to the telephone but I said, 67 00:04:14,087 --> 00:04:15,356 what am I going to tell them? 68 00:04:15,456 --> 00:04:18,726 I'm going to tell them I have seen flares out there at 10 69 00:04:18,826 --> 00:04:20,828 o'clock or past 10 o'clock at night 70 00:04:20,928 --> 00:04:23,230 and there was a ship up there? 71 00:04:23,331 --> 00:04:25,633 Who was going to say, OK, Diane, that's fine. 72 00:04:25,733 --> 00:04:26,900 We're coming over? 73 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,470 So that's why I didn't call. 74 00:04:32,573 --> 00:04:33,874 ROBERT STACK: According to Labenek, 75 00:04:33,974 --> 00:04:37,077 10 minutes after the mysterious lights abruptly blinked out, 76 00:04:37,177 --> 00:04:41,181 a helicopter appeared just as unexpectedly. 77 00:04:41,281 --> 00:04:43,417 The unmarked craft flew low to the ground, 78 00:04:43,517 --> 00:04:45,353 over the field where the unexplained lights 79 00:04:45,453 --> 00:04:46,687 had appeared. 80 00:04:46,787 --> 00:04:49,857 After crisscrossing the area, it flew over Diane's house 81 00:04:49,957 --> 00:04:51,158 and rushed off into the night. 82 00:04:54,795 --> 00:04:56,797 At the crack of dawn, Diane Labenek 83 00:04:56,897 --> 00:04:58,366 ran out to the empty fields which 84 00:04:58,466 --> 00:05:00,668 surround her house, searching for evidence 85 00:05:00,768 --> 00:05:03,804 of the previous night's events. 86 00:05:03,904 --> 00:05:05,038 DIANE LABENEK: I searched everything. 87 00:05:05,138 --> 00:05:06,607 There was no marks. 88 00:05:06,707 --> 00:05:07,508 There was no spots. 89 00:05:07,608 --> 00:05:08,642 There was no matches. 90 00:05:08,742 --> 00:05:10,978 There was just nothing. 91 00:05:11,078 --> 00:05:14,548 The only person I told is my mom and my husband. 92 00:05:14,648 --> 00:05:17,518 It kind of bothered me inside for a long, long time 93 00:05:17,618 --> 00:05:21,589 not to come forward and say it to anybody. 94 00:05:21,689 --> 00:05:24,458 But when I went out on the field and I could not 95 00:05:24,558 --> 00:05:26,760 find anything, who was going to believe 96 00:05:26,860 --> 00:05:28,896 me that this really happened? 97 00:05:28,996 --> 00:05:32,500 So I kept it to myself. 98 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,736 The 1991 sighting was the second unusual event 99 00:05:35,836 --> 00:05:39,039 Diane Labenek had witnessed in West Carleton. 100 00:05:39,139 --> 00:05:41,409 In 1989, she was one of several residents 101 00:05:41,509 --> 00:05:44,111 who observed a sudden explosion of extraordinarily brilliant 102 00:05:44,211 --> 00:05:46,714 light over a nearby swamp. 103 00:05:46,814 --> 00:05:49,950 Labenek might have remained silent about the 1991 episode 104 00:05:50,050 --> 00:05:52,520 if not for this controversial videotape which 105 00:05:52,620 --> 00:05:55,055 seems to verify her account. 106 00:05:55,155 --> 00:05:58,091 A tape was mailed to the office of a UFO researcher, 107 00:05:58,191 --> 00:05:59,993 and tonight it will be shown for the first time 108 00:06:00,093 --> 00:06:04,097 ever on national television. 109 00:06:04,197 --> 00:06:07,968 In February of 1992, six months after Labenek's sighting, 110 00:06:08,068 --> 00:06:10,738 a package from Canada arrived at the Edgewater, Maryland 111 00:06:10,838 --> 00:06:12,606 office of Bob Oechsler. 112 00:06:12,706 --> 00:06:15,308 A former NASA mission specialist, Oechsler is now 113 00:06:15,409 --> 00:06:18,812 a well-known UFO researcher. 114 00:06:18,912 --> 00:06:21,114 The package had no return address. 115 00:06:21,214 --> 00:06:25,352 Inside were documents, pictures, a map, and the videotape 116 00:06:25,453 --> 00:06:30,624 all pertaining to the 1991 incident at West Carleton. 117 00:06:30,724 --> 00:06:31,759 BOB OECHSLER: Most unusual, there 118 00:06:31,859 --> 00:06:35,429 seemed to be somewhat of a symbol with regard 119 00:06:35,529 --> 00:06:36,363 to the videotape. 120 00:06:36,464 --> 00:06:39,066 On the label was the name Guardian, 121 00:06:39,166 --> 00:06:42,603 and it was accompanied by a fingerprint. 122 00:06:42,703 --> 00:06:44,938 Guardian, to me, was an enigma. 123 00:06:45,038 --> 00:06:49,477 Certainly nothing I had heard about in the UFO literature. 124 00:06:49,577 --> 00:06:53,847 So it was a mystery starting from scratch. 125 00:06:53,947 --> 00:06:55,215 ROBERT STACK: At the time, Oechsler 126 00:06:55,315 --> 00:06:57,084 was unaware of Labenek's sighting, 127 00:06:57,184 --> 00:06:58,886 but he would later find that the video 128 00:06:58,986 --> 00:07:01,889 depicted what she has reported with stunning accuracy. 129 00:07:06,494 --> 00:07:08,361 The tape showed a cluster of brightly burning 130 00:07:08,462 --> 00:07:10,731 red flames similar to flares. 131 00:07:10,831 --> 00:07:13,667 To the right hovered a dark disk-like object 132 00:07:13,767 --> 00:07:17,204 emitting a bright glow from its underside. 133 00:07:17,304 --> 00:07:20,574 The object was capped by a rapidly strobing blue light. 134 00:07:20,674 --> 00:07:23,010 It is among the most convincing documentations 135 00:07:23,110 --> 00:07:26,379 of a UFO Oechsler had seen in his 12 years of research. 136 00:07:29,850 --> 00:07:31,585 BOB OECHSLER: It was clearly a disk-looking shape. 137 00:07:31,685 --> 00:07:34,321 We could resolve that because the flashing light on top 138 00:07:34,421 --> 00:07:38,526 would reflect off of the curved surface of the disk. 139 00:07:38,626 --> 00:07:42,162 I got a sense, initially, that this was a real event occurring 140 00:07:42,262 --> 00:07:44,297 in a field, as opposed to some prop 141 00:07:44,397 --> 00:07:46,967 set up in a room somewhere. 142 00:07:47,067 --> 00:07:49,670 It had such an extraordinary amount 143 00:07:49,770 --> 00:07:52,239 of luminosity characteristic to it 144 00:07:52,339 --> 00:07:55,909 that I had a sense I might be dealing with something that 145 00:07:56,009 --> 00:07:59,680 was potentially authentic here. 146 00:07:59,780 --> 00:08:01,248 ROBERT STACK: The map sent with the videotape 147 00:08:01,348 --> 00:08:04,117 shows the area of west Carleton, Canada as the location 148 00:08:04,217 --> 00:08:06,186 where the tape had been made. 149 00:08:06,286 --> 00:08:08,789 Oechsler went to West Carleton along with UFO 150 00:08:08,889 --> 00:08:11,458 researcher Graham Lightfoot. 151 00:08:11,559 --> 00:08:15,929 Diane, can you tell us exactly what you saw that night? 152 00:08:16,029 --> 00:08:18,031 ROBERT STACK: Together, they interviewed Diane Labenek, 153 00:08:18,131 --> 00:08:23,036 whom Lightfoot had met when he investigated her 1989 sighting. 154 00:08:23,136 --> 00:08:25,773 Yes, I'd seen a bright light. 155 00:08:25,873 --> 00:08:27,074 What time of the day was this? 156 00:08:27,174 --> 00:08:28,141 This was at night, eh? 157 00:08:28,241 --> 00:08:29,309 Yes, it was at night. 158 00:08:29,409 --> 00:08:31,612 I would say about 10 o'clock. 159 00:08:31,712 --> 00:08:33,513 ROBERT STACK: To their surprise, Labenek 160 00:08:33,614 --> 00:08:35,816 described exactly what the two researchers had 161 00:08:35,916 --> 00:08:39,519 seen on Guardian's videotape. 162 00:08:39,620 --> 00:08:42,489 When we talked to Diane about the sighting, 163 00:08:42,590 --> 00:08:45,025 I asked her had she seen anything. 164 00:08:45,125 --> 00:08:50,397 Her description was so vivid that it's something I didn't 165 00:08:50,497 --> 00:08:52,532 think she could have made up. 166 00:08:52,633 --> 00:08:53,767 She had not seen a tape. 167 00:08:53,867 --> 00:08:56,770 She had no idea what we knew, and yet she 168 00:08:56,870 --> 00:09:01,174 was able to describe things that we already knew from the tape. 169 00:09:01,274 --> 00:09:03,611 And when he showed me the tape, 170 00:09:03,711 --> 00:09:06,346 it was exactly what I've seen. 171 00:09:06,446 --> 00:09:09,750 And it was-- it was still scary for me, 172 00:09:09,850 --> 00:09:13,253 but at least I had something to go by. 173 00:09:13,353 --> 00:09:17,124 Something that now I can tell the people, because now I 174 00:09:17,224 --> 00:09:19,192 have little bit more evidence. 175 00:09:19,292 --> 00:09:21,328 That's one of the clearest videos I've seen 176 00:09:21,428 --> 00:09:23,864 that show a structured object. 177 00:09:23,964 --> 00:09:25,232 ROBERT STACK: Dr. Bruce Maccabee, 178 00:09:25,332 --> 00:09:27,735 a US Navy physicist and photojournalist, 179 00:09:27,835 --> 00:09:30,537 has studied UFOs for years. 180 00:09:30,638 --> 00:09:32,973 Here's the beacon light with blue light, 181 00:09:33,073 --> 00:09:34,541 evidently, a reflection down here 182 00:09:34,642 --> 00:09:38,078 on the body of the craft, the outline of the object itself. 183 00:09:38,178 --> 00:09:41,381 You can see some sort of dark lines that appear. 184 00:09:41,481 --> 00:09:43,016 Some brightness structure indicating 185 00:09:43,116 --> 00:09:46,186 something generating light as hanging down below the object. 186 00:09:46,286 --> 00:09:48,922 It's generating green light as well as blue light. 187 00:09:49,022 --> 00:09:50,658 Probably there is other structure in here 188 00:09:50,758 --> 00:09:52,860 which, however, the glare from this bright light 189 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:54,527 is blurring out. 190 00:09:54,628 --> 00:09:56,797 ROBERT STACK: Dr. Maccabee, who believes that tape is not 191 00:09:56,897 --> 00:09:58,832 a hoax, was particularly intrigued 192 00:09:58,932 --> 00:10:01,068 by the bright, strobing light. 193 00:10:01,168 --> 00:10:02,435 BRUCE MACCABEE: Now, first of all, 194 00:10:02,535 --> 00:10:05,973 it's an unusual one because it's blue and it's very fast. 195 00:10:06,073 --> 00:10:09,176 It was running about 7 cycles per second. 196 00:10:09,276 --> 00:10:12,212 This is much faster than ordinary flashing beacons 197 00:10:12,312 --> 00:10:13,681 on aircraft, for example, that typically 198 00:10:13,781 --> 00:10:18,218 run about 1 flash per second or maybe 2 flashes per second. 199 00:10:18,318 --> 00:10:20,020 The section of the video which shows 200 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:24,925 the object just sort of appearing over a rise 201 00:10:25,025 --> 00:10:26,894 is quite convincing to me. 202 00:10:26,994 --> 00:10:29,329 It would be what you would expect if somebody were 203 00:10:29,429 --> 00:10:33,834 in the field trying to get closer to it, 204 00:10:33,934 --> 00:10:36,837 not knowing how close he could get. 205 00:10:36,937 --> 00:10:39,206 So he turns on his camera and, while he's walking, 206 00:10:39,306 --> 00:10:41,041 he knows he's going to come up over a rise and see it. 207 00:10:41,141 --> 00:10:43,143 And you can see in the video, farther and farther down 208 00:10:43,243 --> 00:10:46,379 until you see the whole device. 209 00:10:46,479 --> 00:10:48,315 And suddenly, the light coming towards him 210 00:10:48,415 --> 00:10:49,482 gets brighter and brighter and you 211 00:10:49,582 --> 00:10:52,052 get a great, big, diffuse reflection or image 212 00:10:52,152 --> 00:10:56,089 in the camera, which suggests to me that this object shined 213 00:10:56,189 --> 00:10:59,793 a blue beam right at him. 214 00:10:59,893 --> 00:11:01,128 ROBERT STACK: Dr. Maccabee estimated 215 00:11:01,228 --> 00:11:04,898 the unknown object to be 20 to 30 feet in diameter. 216 00:11:04,998 --> 00:11:07,667 According to Oechsler, the object's apparent size 217 00:11:07,768 --> 00:11:11,271 argues against it being a hoax. 218 00:11:11,371 --> 00:11:14,041 It appeared to be so large that it would 219 00:11:14,141 --> 00:11:17,477 not be logical to try to set all this up 220 00:11:17,577 --> 00:11:19,546 at night under darkness. 221 00:11:19,646 --> 00:11:22,349 There would have been evidence during the day of movement, 222 00:11:22,449 --> 00:11:24,952 of generators, of somebody hauling cables, 223 00:11:25,052 --> 00:11:28,388 maybe a big apparatus or something 224 00:11:28,488 --> 00:11:33,093 that they would have had to bring in there for that night. 225 00:11:33,193 --> 00:11:36,596 Clearly, if there was a hoax involved, 226 00:11:36,696 --> 00:11:38,565 Diane would have seen evidence of it in advance. 227 00:11:41,168 --> 00:11:42,602 ROBERT STACK: Audio analysis of the tape 228 00:11:42,702 --> 00:11:45,873 revealed only the distant barking of dogs, perhaps those 229 00:11:45,973 --> 00:11:49,009 reported by Diane Labenek. 230 00:11:49,109 --> 00:11:51,344 [barking] 231 00:11:52,379 --> 00:11:54,714 The craft itself seemed to be silent. 232 00:11:54,815 --> 00:11:57,584 There was no audible trace of power generators, which, 233 00:11:57,684 --> 00:12:00,687 if the object was staged, would have been necessary to run 234 00:12:00,788 --> 00:12:01,789 its massive lights. 235 00:12:04,825 --> 00:12:07,861 Dr. Robert Nathan of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory 236 00:12:07,961 --> 00:12:11,164 reviewed the tape in a non-official capacity. 237 00:12:11,264 --> 00:12:13,500 Dr. Nathan could not explain the images, 238 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,503 nor could he categorically dismiss the tape as a hoax. 239 00:12:21,041 --> 00:12:23,811 In a puzzling coincidence, low-flying helicopters 240 00:12:23,911 --> 00:12:26,246 had cruised over West Carleton regularly 241 00:12:26,346 --> 00:12:29,116 since the August '91 incident. 242 00:12:29,216 --> 00:12:31,684 According to Labenek and other local residents, 243 00:12:31,785 --> 00:12:35,655 the helicopters are black, green, or maroon in color. 244 00:12:35,755 --> 00:12:39,592 They are unmarked and have darkly tinted windows. 245 00:12:39,692 --> 00:12:43,363 The Canadian military denies any involvement in this incident. 246 00:12:43,463 --> 00:12:46,466 Where the helicopters come from and what they are searching for 247 00:12:46,566 --> 00:12:49,702 remains a mystery. 248 00:12:49,803 --> 00:12:54,908 The helicopters that are used in this area of Canada 249 00:12:55,008 --> 00:12:59,279 do not fly low in that area. 250 00:12:59,379 --> 00:13:02,082 We have designated flying training areas 251 00:13:02,182 --> 00:13:03,550 about 30 miles west of here. 252 00:13:03,650 --> 00:13:05,485 We also have them north. 253 00:13:05,585 --> 00:13:06,954 Therefore, there are no requirements 254 00:13:07,054 --> 00:13:09,356 for our military helicopters to go and fly 255 00:13:09,456 --> 00:13:11,658 near private citizens' property like that. 256 00:13:11,758 --> 00:13:16,063 Either this is one extraordinary, elaborate hoax, 257 00:13:16,163 --> 00:13:19,900 a military operation on private property, 258 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,904 or something that's very unusual in the UFO category-- 259 00:13:24,004 --> 00:13:27,340 something suggesting, perhaps, non-human technology. 260 00:13:32,946 --> 00:13:34,281 ROBERT STACK: The key to the entire episode 261 00:13:34,381 --> 00:13:37,250 lies with the person using the name Guardian. 262 00:13:37,350 --> 00:13:40,453 The presence of this mysterious informant in a remote field 263 00:13:40,553 --> 00:13:43,023 late at night with video camera in hand 264 00:13:43,123 --> 00:13:48,962 just in time for a UFO sighting can hardly be ascribed to luck. 265 00:13:49,062 --> 00:13:51,831 According to Bob Oechsler, whether the event was real 266 00:13:51,932 --> 00:13:54,767 or an elaborate hoax, Guardian had prior knowledge 267 00:13:54,868 --> 00:13:57,404 that it was going to happen. 268 00:13:57,504 --> 00:13:59,940 I think Guardian has to be connected 269 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,309 to the event in some way. 270 00:14:02,409 --> 00:14:05,478 I don't see any way Guardian could 271 00:14:05,578 --> 00:14:08,081 have just happened onto this. 272 00:14:08,181 --> 00:14:12,085 I don't see Guardian as a UFO investigator. 273 00:14:12,185 --> 00:14:14,721 Guardian is much more involved in this 274 00:14:14,821 --> 00:14:20,427 than the evidence even suggests, in my opinion. 275 00:14:20,527 --> 00:14:21,761 ROBERT STACK: Virtually nothing is known 276 00:14:21,861 --> 00:14:24,297 about Guardian's true identity. 277 00:14:24,397 --> 00:14:25,966 Curiously, the secretive informant 278 00:14:26,066 --> 00:14:28,168 has contacted UFO researchers only 279 00:14:28,268 --> 00:14:29,836 in connection with the two sightings 280 00:14:29,937 --> 00:14:34,141 reported by Diane Labenek and others in West Carleton. 281 00:14:34,241 --> 00:14:35,242 GRAHAM LIGHTFOOT: When we started 282 00:14:35,342 --> 00:14:39,812 looking into the events, it would 283 00:14:39,913 --> 00:14:42,749 be simple to say that it was a hoax because Diane 284 00:14:42,849 --> 00:14:44,851 was involved in both of them. 285 00:14:44,952 --> 00:14:49,389 But when you get to know Diane and see the way she lives 286 00:14:49,489 --> 00:14:51,691 and the circumstance, it's apparent 287 00:14:51,791 --> 00:14:54,327 that she wasn't involved in any way other 288 00:14:54,427 --> 00:14:57,630 than being an observer. 289 00:14:57,730 --> 00:14:59,566 ROBERT STACK: But purported military documents 290 00:14:59,666 --> 00:15:02,235 that arrived with a videotape raised serious questions 291 00:15:02,335 --> 00:15:04,504 about Guardian's credibility. 292 00:15:04,604 --> 00:15:06,906 Among other preposterous claims, the papers 293 00:15:07,007 --> 00:15:10,477 allege far-reaching conspiracies involving UFOs, 294 00:15:10,577 --> 00:15:13,846 Red China, and nuclear weapons. 295 00:15:13,947 --> 00:15:15,082 BOB OECHSLER: There was some question 296 00:15:15,182 --> 00:15:17,784 immediately with regard to the authenticity 297 00:15:17,884 --> 00:15:19,119 of the documentation. 298 00:15:19,219 --> 00:15:22,655 It didn't look like it was a typical government document, 299 00:15:22,755 --> 00:15:24,857 even Canadian government documents, of which I 300 00:15:24,958 --> 00:15:26,759 had no familiarity at the time. 301 00:15:26,859 --> 00:15:29,162 This document is clearly a fabrication. 302 00:15:29,262 --> 00:15:33,066 There are way too many errors in the document 303 00:15:33,166 --> 00:15:34,901 to make it authentic. 304 00:15:35,002 --> 00:15:37,904 Someone with very little effort could have 305 00:15:38,005 --> 00:15:41,441 come a lot closer than this. 306 00:15:41,541 --> 00:15:43,276 ROBERT STACK: Also included on the videotape 307 00:15:43,376 --> 00:15:45,278 are obscure images which Guardian 308 00:15:45,378 --> 00:15:49,182 claimed show an alien being. 309 00:15:49,282 --> 00:15:51,251 Clearly, this could have been someone 310 00:15:51,351 --> 00:15:53,086 dressed up in a costume. 311 00:15:53,186 --> 00:15:55,722 But that posed a major question. 312 00:15:55,822 --> 00:16:00,960 If, in fact, the video images of the disk were authentic, 313 00:16:01,061 --> 00:16:04,564 why would anyone contaminate such 314 00:16:04,664 --> 00:16:09,936 an extraordinary event with fake images of alien creatures? 315 00:16:10,037 --> 00:16:13,840 The stories that he writes to go along with the events 316 00:16:13,940 --> 00:16:17,444 don't seem to match the quality of the event itself, 317 00:16:17,544 --> 00:16:19,112 if it makes any sense. 318 00:16:19,212 --> 00:16:22,615 These stories are rather far-fetched, 319 00:16:22,715 --> 00:16:25,485 and yet the events are seen by credible witnesses. 320 00:16:28,321 --> 00:16:29,789 ROBERT STACK: In spite of the dubious images 321 00:16:29,889 --> 00:16:32,525 and questionable documents, many experts 322 00:16:32,625 --> 00:16:35,595 believe that the event shown on the tape did indeed take place. 323 00:16:40,300 --> 00:16:42,469 What really happened in the fields of West Carleton? 324 00:16:47,307 --> 00:16:48,708 In the wake of its brief appearance 325 00:16:48,808 --> 00:16:52,412 during the summer of 1991, the strange luminous object 326 00:16:52,512 --> 00:16:54,147 left only questions. 327 00:16:54,247 --> 00:16:56,149 Questions, perhaps, the person called 328 00:16:56,249 --> 00:16:59,419 Guardian alone can answer. 329 00:16:59,519 --> 00:17:02,689 BOB OECHSLER: This is either an extraordinary, top-secret 330 00:17:02,789 --> 00:17:05,958 flying vehicle of somebody's government, 331 00:17:06,059 --> 00:17:10,763 or it is of a non-human origin. 332 00:17:10,863 --> 00:17:13,032 Having no contact with Guardian is 333 00:17:13,133 --> 00:17:16,469 probably the biggest frustration to an investigation like this. 334 00:17:16,569 --> 00:17:21,141 We don't know who Guardian is, what Guardian represents. 335 00:17:21,241 --> 00:17:27,414 We don't know if Guardian was sent or went on his own. 336 00:17:27,514 --> 00:17:30,450 We have no idea what the solutions 337 00:17:30,550 --> 00:17:33,420 to many of these mysteries are going to be. 338 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:34,321 We may never know. 339 00:17:45,532 --> 00:17:46,766 ROBERT STACK: On a recent broadcast, 340 00:17:46,866 --> 00:17:48,468 we brought you the poignant story of a woman 341 00:17:48,568 --> 00:17:51,338 named Brenda Merrill. 342 00:17:51,438 --> 00:17:55,007 In 1961, Brenda's mother bought a restaurant in Lawrenceville, 343 00:17:55,108 --> 00:17:57,577 Pennsylvania, and moved her children to a farmhouse 344 00:17:57,677 --> 00:17:59,479 just outside town. 345 00:17:59,579 --> 00:18:01,214 I'm going to ride into town with the movers, 346 00:18:01,314 --> 00:18:03,750 so you have to take care of your brothers and sisters. 347 00:18:03,850 --> 00:18:06,353 Aren't you coming back up here tonight? 348 00:18:06,453 --> 00:18:07,954 ROBERT STACK: Brenda was the oldest child, 349 00:18:08,054 --> 00:18:09,789 and at the age of 16, she suddenly 350 00:18:09,889 --> 00:18:11,958 found herself responsible for the welfare 351 00:18:12,058 --> 00:18:13,360 of five brothers and sisters. 352 00:18:16,329 --> 00:18:18,431 BRENDA MERRILL: It was just like a normal family 353 00:18:18,531 --> 00:18:20,600 because I was like their mother. 354 00:18:20,700 --> 00:18:22,302 It just went, you washed clothes. 355 00:18:22,402 --> 00:18:23,803 You did the dishes. 356 00:18:23,903 --> 00:18:25,605 You got their dinner, and you got their breakfast, 357 00:18:25,705 --> 00:18:27,507 and you got their supper, and you'd 358 00:18:27,607 --> 00:18:29,176 get them scrubbed up for bed. 359 00:18:29,276 --> 00:18:33,513 And you sing them songs before they go to sleep, 360 00:18:33,613 --> 00:18:35,148 like a normal household. 361 00:18:37,884 --> 00:18:39,186 ROBERT STACK: Through a long, hard winter, 362 00:18:39,286 --> 00:18:41,888 Brenda struggled to care for the children. 363 00:18:41,988 --> 00:18:43,956 Often, she was forced to hunt small game 364 00:18:44,056 --> 00:18:45,192 to keep food on the table. 365 00:18:48,828 --> 00:18:51,398 Finally, as winter broke into a damp, chilly spring, 366 00:18:51,498 --> 00:18:53,633 a fire at the farmhouse drove the youngsters 367 00:18:53,733 --> 00:18:55,435 to seek refuge with their mother, 368 00:18:55,535 --> 00:18:57,337 but she was unwilling to take them in. 369 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,475 Brenda tried to keep the children herself 370 00:19:02,575 --> 00:19:06,313 but was forced to give them up one by one. 371 00:19:06,413 --> 00:19:07,680 You take good care of him, OK? 372 00:19:07,780 --> 00:19:08,581 Don't worry, honey. 373 00:19:08,681 --> 00:19:09,516 We'll take good care of him. 374 00:19:13,052 --> 00:19:14,187 ROBERT STACK: Eventually, Brenda was 375 00:19:14,287 --> 00:19:17,457 reunited with her sister Linda and her brother Butch. 376 00:19:17,557 --> 00:19:19,859 Together, they set out to find the two youngest 377 00:19:19,959 --> 00:19:23,663 brothers, Eric and Keith. 378 00:19:23,763 --> 00:19:25,865 On the evening of our broadcast, Brenda Merrill's 379 00:19:25,965 --> 00:19:29,001 single-minded determination to bring her family back together 380 00:19:29,101 --> 00:19:31,238 finally began to pay off. 381 00:19:31,338 --> 00:19:33,373 An hour after Brenda's story aired, 382 00:19:33,473 --> 00:19:35,708 a man named Keith Robinson of Hornell, New York, 383 00:19:35,808 --> 00:19:38,545 contacted our telecenter and said that he 384 00:19:38,645 --> 00:19:41,481 was Brenda's long-lost brother. 385 00:19:41,581 --> 00:19:44,851 Brenda called me that same night, like five minutes later, 386 00:19:44,951 --> 00:19:46,886 and we was talking and I mentioned 387 00:19:46,986 --> 00:19:50,823 about having a photograph that she had aired on the program. 388 00:19:50,923 --> 00:19:53,860 And I basically told her, detail for detail, 389 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:58,531 what was in the photo so she knew that I was her brother. 390 00:19:58,631 --> 00:20:01,368 ROBERT STACK: On December 19, 1992, just in time 391 00:20:01,468 --> 00:20:04,571 for Christmas, Keith Robinson and his wife and children 392 00:20:04,671 --> 00:20:07,840 traveled to Montour Falls, New York for an emotional reunion 393 00:20:07,940 --> 00:20:11,678 with his sisters, Brenda and Linda, and his brother, Butch. 394 00:20:11,778 --> 00:20:13,713 He had not seen them in more than 30 years. 395 00:20:16,349 --> 00:20:18,017 KEITH ROBINSON: I thought a lot about what 396 00:20:18,117 --> 00:20:19,386 they were going to be like. 397 00:20:19,486 --> 00:20:21,588 If they were going to love me for just being their brother 398 00:20:21,688 --> 00:20:24,657 or love me for what I am now today; 399 00:20:24,757 --> 00:20:27,894 if they were going to accept my family into their heart. 400 00:20:27,994 --> 00:20:31,030 Because over a 30-year period of waiting and looking. 401 00:20:34,166 --> 00:20:36,436 BRENDA MERRILL: It's a great Christmas present. 402 00:20:36,536 --> 00:20:37,737 You don't know. 403 00:20:37,837 --> 00:20:40,106 He is the greatest Christmas present, especially 404 00:20:40,206 --> 00:20:41,941 his wife and kids, too. 405 00:20:42,041 --> 00:20:43,410 He has a nice wife and kids. 406 00:20:46,479 --> 00:20:47,580 ROBERT STACK: For everyone involved, 407 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,417 the reunion was bittersweet, their joy 408 00:20:50,517 --> 00:20:55,221 tempered by the knowledge that one brother was still missing. 409 00:20:55,322 --> 00:20:57,223 Eric Nickerson was still a toddler when 410 00:20:57,324 --> 00:20:59,492 his family was split apart. 411 00:20:59,592 --> 00:21:02,061 Just five weeks after we filmed this update, 412 00:21:02,161 --> 00:21:05,097 he, too, was found. 413 00:21:05,197 --> 00:21:08,668 Eric's name is now Richard Moore and he lives in Tulsa, Oklahoma 414 00:21:08,768 --> 00:21:11,538 with his wife and two children. 415 00:21:11,638 --> 00:21:14,441 In February of 1993, he was reunited 416 00:21:14,541 --> 00:21:16,476 with his sisters, Brenda and Linda, 417 00:21:16,576 --> 00:21:19,912 after more than 30 years of separation. 418 00:21:20,012 --> 00:21:22,515 Brenda Miller's long search to find all her brothers 419 00:21:22,615 --> 00:21:24,317 and sisters was finally over. 420 00:21:34,226 --> 00:21:35,328 OK. 421 00:21:35,428 --> 00:21:37,296 Smaller, playing with the propeller in the front. 422 00:21:37,397 --> 00:21:39,298 The propellers in the front. 423 00:21:39,399 --> 00:21:40,700 ROBERT STACK: Recently, this young woman 424 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,336 was found wandering through the streets of a small California 425 00:21:43,436 --> 00:21:44,671 community. 426 00:21:44,771 --> 00:21:47,807 She was completely incapable of speaking or hearing 427 00:21:47,907 --> 00:21:50,710 and carried no identification. 428 00:21:50,810 --> 00:21:53,045 For the past five months, local social workers 429 00:21:53,145 --> 00:21:56,916 have been counseling but still know almost nothing about her. 430 00:21:57,016 --> 00:21:59,419 Tonight, they ask your help to find the young woman's 431 00:21:59,519 --> 00:22:01,454 family or friends. 432 00:22:01,554 --> 00:22:04,023 Our story begins in Port Hueneme, California, 433 00:22:04,123 --> 00:22:07,326 on September 8, 1992. 434 00:22:07,427 --> 00:22:10,830 That afternoon, a motorist came across the young woman 435 00:22:10,930 --> 00:22:14,467 frolicking on the meridian of a busy thoroughfare. 436 00:22:14,567 --> 00:22:16,936 Can I help you? 437 00:22:17,036 --> 00:22:19,005 You don't hear what I'm saying? 438 00:22:19,105 --> 00:22:21,140 Do you live around here? 439 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:22,809 ROBERT STACK: The motorist quickly determined that 440 00:22:22,909 --> 00:22:25,044 the woman was hearing impaired. 441 00:22:25,144 --> 00:22:27,547 Fearing for her safety, he took her to the Ventura 442 00:22:27,647 --> 00:22:30,182 County Police Station. 443 00:22:30,282 --> 00:22:31,150 Hi. 444 00:22:31,250 --> 00:22:32,419 What's your name? 445 00:22:32,519 --> 00:22:34,454 ROBERT STACK: The police attempted to question the woman 446 00:22:34,554 --> 00:22:37,524 but found that she was unable to communicate who she was 447 00:22:37,624 --> 00:22:38,625 or where she had come from. 448 00:22:38,725 --> 00:22:41,461 A wallet? 449 00:22:41,561 --> 00:22:43,195 ROBERT STACK: The only clue to her identity 450 00:22:43,295 --> 00:22:46,933 was a receipt from a bank in San Diego, 200 miles to the south. 451 00:22:50,703 --> 00:22:52,238 The authorities could see no reason 452 00:22:52,338 --> 00:22:54,607 to detain the young woman, and a short time 453 00:22:54,707 --> 00:22:55,808 later, she was released. 454 00:22:58,478 --> 00:23:00,246 I'm 10-6 with the subject. 455 00:23:00,346 --> 00:23:02,348 I'll bring her into the station. 456 00:23:02,449 --> 00:23:03,916 ROBERT STACK: The next day, a patrolman 457 00:23:04,016 --> 00:23:06,318 came upon this same young woman once again 458 00:23:06,419 --> 00:23:08,655 in the middle of a busy street less than a mile 459 00:23:08,755 --> 00:23:10,122 from the police station. 460 00:23:10,222 --> 00:23:12,091 She appeared to be terribly confused. 461 00:23:12,191 --> 00:23:13,359 Come with me. 462 00:23:13,460 --> 00:23:14,494 It's OK. 463 00:23:14,594 --> 00:23:15,828 ROBERT STACK: This time, the authorities 464 00:23:15,928 --> 00:23:17,797 placed her in a homeless shelter for women. 465 00:23:20,767 --> 00:23:22,469 When she first came to the shelter, 466 00:23:22,569 --> 00:23:26,105 she had no means of formal communication with anyone 467 00:23:26,205 --> 00:23:28,908 and so a lot of it was pantomiming and mimicking 468 00:23:29,008 --> 00:23:31,944 and what is known as home sign language. 469 00:23:32,044 --> 00:23:33,480 This is a picture of you. 470 00:23:33,580 --> 00:23:35,882 ROBERT STACK: Communications specialist Chris Barrows 471 00:23:35,982 --> 00:23:37,684 was enlisted to help pierce the walls 472 00:23:37,784 --> 00:23:42,388 of silence that surrounded this most unusual Jane Doe. 473 00:23:42,489 --> 00:23:44,957 One of the first things that we tried to do 474 00:23:45,057 --> 00:23:46,793 was we wanted to get a name and an age 475 00:23:46,893 --> 00:23:48,928 so that we could find out if we were dealing with a juvenile 476 00:23:49,028 --> 00:23:50,730 or whether we were dealing with an adult. 477 00:23:50,830 --> 00:23:51,898 All right. 478 00:23:51,998 --> 00:23:53,299 Let's see if we can figure out her name here. 479 00:23:53,399 --> 00:23:55,902 Let's try this. 480 00:23:56,002 --> 00:23:57,537 CHRIS BARROWS: We sat down with paper and pen 481 00:23:57,637 --> 00:24:01,908 and we tried communicating with her that way. 482 00:24:02,008 --> 00:24:04,677 We wrote our names, Marti and I. I wrote my name, 483 00:24:04,777 --> 00:24:06,412 gestured to myself several times. 484 00:24:06,513 --> 00:24:09,549 Marti wrote her name, gestured to herself several times. 485 00:24:09,649 --> 00:24:10,449 Who are you? 486 00:24:10,550 --> 00:24:11,818 You try it. 487 00:24:11,918 --> 00:24:14,821 CHRIS BARROWS: And then we asked her to write her name, 488 00:24:14,921 --> 00:24:16,088 if she could write. 489 00:24:16,188 --> 00:24:16,989 Your name. 490 00:24:17,089 --> 00:24:18,390 This is me. 491 00:24:18,491 --> 00:24:20,392 OK, I think she got it here. 492 00:24:20,493 --> 00:24:21,293 L? 493 00:24:21,393 --> 00:24:25,131 L. L. L. V? 494 00:24:25,231 --> 00:24:26,265 No. 495 00:24:26,365 --> 00:24:27,800 ROBERT STACK: The young woman who was apparently 496 00:24:27,900 --> 00:24:29,569 unable to write, and it was clear 497 00:24:29,669 --> 00:24:32,338 that she had no formal training in sign language. 498 00:24:32,438 --> 00:24:34,406 But she was able to spell out her name 499 00:24:34,507 --> 00:24:36,743 using symbolic hand gestures. 500 00:24:36,843 --> 00:24:38,010 X? 501 00:24:38,110 --> 00:24:40,412 CHRIS BARROWS: And when I copied it onto the paper, 502 00:24:40,513 --> 00:24:41,948 it was instant recognition. 503 00:24:42,048 --> 00:24:44,283 And in our field, instant recognition means 504 00:24:44,383 --> 00:24:46,553 this has got to be the truth. 505 00:24:46,653 --> 00:24:47,687 ROBERT STACK: The name she spelled 506 00:24:47,787 --> 00:24:50,156 up was Lucxi, which may be a derivative 507 00:24:50,256 --> 00:24:52,391 of a Spanish first name. 508 00:24:52,491 --> 00:24:56,128 For convenience sake, Chris and Marti dubbed her Lucy. 509 00:24:56,228 --> 00:24:58,064 Let's see if we can get an age here. 510 00:24:58,164 --> 00:25:00,266 She got very excited when she found 511 00:25:00,366 --> 00:25:04,737 that someone finally had known her name and had gotten it. 512 00:25:04,837 --> 00:25:06,673 We did the same thing with her age. 513 00:25:06,773 --> 00:25:08,307 How old are you? 514 00:25:08,407 --> 00:25:09,809 10. 20. 515 00:25:09,909 --> 00:25:10,810 2. 516 00:25:10,910 --> 00:25:11,811 1. 517 00:25:11,911 --> 00:25:13,312 23. 518 00:25:13,412 --> 00:25:14,313 23? 519 00:25:14,413 --> 00:25:16,348 You're 23? 520 00:25:16,448 --> 00:25:18,317 ROBERT STACK: Despite the ease with which Chris and Marti 521 00:25:18,417 --> 00:25:20,920 determined Lucy's name and age, finding 522 00:25:21,020 --> 00:25:22,488 someone who knew her would present 523 00:25:22,589 --> 00:25:26,092 a far greater challenge. 524 00:25:26,192 --> 00:25:29,161 In the days and weeks after Lucy surfaced in Port Hueneme, 525 00:25:29,261 --> 00:25:31,197 the FBI and various missing persons 526 00:25:31,297 --> 00:25:35,467 organizations ran checks on her, but all turned up empty. 527 00:25:35,568 --> 00:25:37,837 The only solid lead was a bank receipt from San 528 00:25:37,937 --> 00:25:39,739 Diego found in her pocket. 529 00:25:39,839 --> 00:25:41,808 But that, too, led nowhere. 530 00:25:41,908 --> 00:25:45,377 And authorities now find themselves at a dead end. 531 00:25:45,477 --> 00:25:46,879 Baby? 532 00:25:46,979 --> 00:25:47,847 Baby. 533 00:25:47,947 --> 00:25:50,817 Little baby? 534 00:25:50,917 --> 00:25:52,985 You draw the baby. 535 00:25:53,085 --> 00:25:55,788 ROBERT STACK: This is Lucy as she appears today. 536 00:25:55,888 --> 00:25:57,389 Over the past few months, she has 537 00:25:57,489 --> 00:26:00,092 slowly begun to reveal fragmentary glimpses 538 00:26:00,192 --> 00:26:02,394 into her past. 539 00:26:02,494 --> 00:26:04,931 CHRIS BARROWS: There's just a particular story that she tries 540 00:26:05,031 --> 00:26:07,033 to tell about having come over on an airplane 541 00:26:07,133 --> 00:26:11,270 and having had a child and the child being taken from her, 542 00:26:11,370 --> 00:26:14,440 and that she was left here. 543 00:26:14,540 --> 00:26:16,142 One of the things that's puzzling about Lucy 544 00:26:16,242 --> 00:26:19,311 is she has all of the grooming habits 545 00:26:19,411 --> 00:26:21,413 and she has all of the appearances of someone 546 00:26:21,513 --> 00:26:22,649 who has been well-kept. 547 00:26:22,749 --> 00:26:24,784 She's been taken care of all of her life. 548 00:26:24,884 --> 00:26:27,820 She doesn't have cooking skills, but she understands to come 549 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,856 and eat when it's time to eat. 550 00:26:29,956 --> 00:26:31,490 So I think that she's been in an environment 551 00:26:31,590 --> 00:26:36,495 where she's been well cared for and well loved by somebody. 552 00:26:36,595 --> 00:26:37,930 When they found her in the beginning, 553 00:26:38,030 --> 00:26:42,068 I don't think she had been on the streets very long. 554 00:26:42,168 --> 00:26:45,537 Although the genuine concern is for her immediate safety 555 00:26:45,638 --> 00:26:47,707 and her immediate protection, there 556 00:26:47,807 --> 00:26:50,442 are people out there who know Lucy, 557 00:26:50,542 --> 00:26:51,644 who have loved her in the past. 558 00:26:51,744 --> 00:26:53,345 Who have taken care of her. 559 00:26:53,445 --> 00:26:55,281 And she needs to be with those people. 560 00:27:11,330 --> 00:27:13,565 ROBERT STACK: Next, a man shoots his estranged 561 00:27:13,666 --> 00:27:15,868 wife and two of her neighbors in a murderous rampage. 562 00:27:28,915 --> 00:27:30,649 February 12, 1988. 563 00:27:30,750 --> 00:27:32,752 Talladega, Alabama. 564 00:27:32,852 --> 00:27:34,586 Well, thanks for the ride, girl. 565 00:27:34,687 --> 00:27:35,755 Give me a call this weekend. 566 00:27:35,855 --> 00:27:37,289 ROBERT STACK: At 8:00 PM, Geraldine 567 00:27:37,389 --> 00:27:40,727 George, a 27-year-old mother of two, returned home from work. 568 00:27:43,495 --> 00:27:45,631 She had been separated from her husband, Larry George, 569 00:27:45,732 --> 00:27:48,868 for six months. 570 00:27:48,968 --> 00:27:51,871 Despite a restraining order, he had continued to harass her. 571 00:27:55,775 --> 00:27:58,277 Larry was a former army-enlisted man who considered 572 00:27:58,377 --> 00:28:01,781 himself a survivalist. 573 00:28:01,881 --> 00:28:05,217 That evening, his obsession with Geraldine would turn deadly. 574 00:28:10,923 --> 00:28:12,691 TOM BOWERMAN: Geraldine went inside her apartment 575 00:28:12,792 --> 00:28:14,761 and dropped her belongings off-- her purse 576 00:28:14,861 --> 00:28:18,264 and whatever other items she had brought home from work. 577 00:28:18,364 --> 00:28:21,200 She walked next door to Janice Morris' apartment 578 00:28:21,300 --> 00:28:25,137 and Ralph Swain's apartment. 579 00:28:25,237 --> 00:28:26,072 [knocking] 580 00:28:27,073 --> 00:28:28,274 It's Geraldine. 581 00:28:28,374 --> 00:28:29,508 ROBERT STACK: Geraldine had become 582 00:28:29,608 --> 00:28:33,045 friendly with her next-door neighbor, Janice Morris. 583 00:28:33,145 --> 00:28:35,081 Janice had two young children of her own 584 00:28:35,181 --> 00:28:37,349 and had agreed to take care of Geraldine's children 585 00:28:37,449 --> 00:28:38,785 while she was at work. - All right. 586 00:28:38,885 --> 00:28:40,019 Say goodbye to everyone. Say goodbye. 587 00:28:40,119 --> 00:28:41,821 - Bye. - Bye! 588 00:28:41,921 --> 00:28:44,290 See that? 589 00:28:44,390 --> 00:28:46,458 TOM BOWERMAN: She went in, sent her kids home, 590 00:28:46,558 --> 00:28:48,761 talked briefly with Janice. 591 00:28:48,861 --> 00:28:51,430 It was rather brief because Janice was on the telephone 592 00:28:51,530 --> 00:28:53,800 with her mother. 593 00:28:53,900 --> 00:28:56,635 Geraldine, after talking briefly with Janice, 594 00:28:56,735 --> 00:29:00,706 walked back next door and, as she entered her apartment, 595 00:29:00,807 --> 00:29:02,942 Larry George was already inside the apartment, 596 00:29:03,042 --> 00:29:06,278 talking to her kids. 597 00:29:06,378 --> 00:29:08,781 Larry, what are you doing in my house? 598 00:29:08,881 --> 00:29:10,549 I'm here with my children. 599 00:29:10,649 --> 00:29:12,584 You know you're not supposed to be here. 600 00:29:12,684 --> 00:29:13,619 We've been through this before. 601 00:29:13,719 --> 00:29:14,887 You want me to call the police again? 602 00:29:17,589 --> 00:29:18,390 Where you been? 603 00:29:18,490 --> 00:29:20,026 That's none of your business. 604 00:29:20,126 --> 00:29:22,228 You know you're suppose to be here taking care of them. 605 00:29:22,328 --> 00:29:23,429 I want you out of my house. 606 00:29:23,529 --> 00:29:25,297 I don't want those people taking care of my kids. 607 00:29:25,397 --> 00:29:27,166 You don't tell me what to do anymore! 608 00:29:27,266 --> 00:29:29,836 Look, you're going to listen to me. 609 00:29:29,936 --> 00:29:31,737 You're going to listen to me! 610 00:29:31,838 --> 00:29:34,206 Larry, put the gun away. 611 00:29:34,306 --> 00:29:38,710 Ain't nobody running my house but me. 612 00:29:38,811 --> 00:29:40,179 Honey, I want you to go upstairs. 613 00:29:40,279 --> 00:29:43,082 You call your grandaddy and you tell him that Larry's here. 614 00:29:43,182 --> 00:29:45,885 Go on. 615 00:29:45,985 --> 00:29:46,986 Larry, no! 616 00:29:47,086 --> 00:29:48,054 Let go of me. 617 00:29:48,154 --> 00:29:48,955 No! 618 00:29:55,561 --> 00:29:56,462 Let me see that. 619 00:30:03,035 --> 00:30:04,470 Janice! 620 00:30:04,570 --> 00:30:08,074 ROBERT STACK: Geraldine ran next door to get help. 621 00:30:08,174 --> 00:30:10,109 Janice was still on the phone with her mother. 622 00:30:10,209 --> 00:30:11,277 Call the police! 623 00:30:11,377 --> 00:30:13,012 Larry's next door and he has a gun! 624 00:30:13,112 --> 00:30:14,046 Please, hang up the pho-- 625 00:30:14,146 --> 00:30:15,447 LARRY: Hey, what's going on? 626 00:30:15,547 --> 00:30:19,318 JESSIE MORRIS: I heard a woman's voice yelling, Janice, Janice, 627 00:30:19,418 --> 00:30:21,820 call the police. 628 00:30:21,921 --> 00:30:23,589 So I asked Jan, who was that? 629 00:30:23,689 --> 00:30:25,257 She's like, a girl just left out of here. 630 00:30:25,357 --> 00:30:26,258 I was like, what's the matter? 631 00:30:26,358 --> 00:30:27,960 She said, I don't know. 632 00:30:28,060 --> 00:30:29,728 Yeah, it's the girl Geraldine next door. 633 00:30:29,828 --> 00:30:30,829 Right. 634 00:30:30,930 --> 00:30:32,564 JESSIE MORRIS: She said she'd call me back. 635 00:30:32,664 --> 00:30:33,565 Let me call you back, OK? 636 00:30:33,665 --> 00:30:34,466 Bye-bye. 637 00:30:37,636 --> 00:30:40,873 And that's the last I heard-- 638 00:30:40,973 --> 00:30:42,708 last time I heard her voice. 639 00:30:48,114 --> 00:30:49,949 ROBERT STACK: Before Janice could call the police, 640 00:30:50,049 --> 00:30:53,785 Larry George shot her in the chest. 641 00:30:53,886 --> 00:30:55,287 Larry, please stop! 642 00:30:55,387 --> 00:30:56,588 Larry, no! 643 00:30:56,688 --> 00:30:58,390 ROBERT STACK: Then, in front of Janice's two children, 644 00:30:58,490 --> 00:31:01,127 he took aim at Geraldine as she lay cowering on the floor. 645 00:31:04,063 --> 00:31:05,264 RALPH: What's all this noise down here? 646 00:31:05,364 --> 00:31:06,398 Janice! 647 00:31:06,498 --> 00:31:07,699 ROBERT STACK: Janice's boyfriend, Ralph Swain, 648 00:31:07,799 --> 00:31:11,203 heard the commotion and ran downstairs. 649 00:31:11,303 --> 00:31:13,072 Larry shot him in the back of the head. 650 00:31:20,279 --> 00:31:22,281 Then, according to a neighbor, Larry George 651 00:31:22,381 --> 00:31:26,118 calmly strode out of the apartment and disappeared. 652 00:31:28,921 --> 00:31:32,291 Janice Morris was pronounced dead at the scene. 653 00:31:32,391 --> 00:31:34,793 Ralph Swain was rushed to a local hospital, where 654 00:31:34,893 --> 00:31:38,464 he died a short time later. 655 00:31:38,564 --> 00:31:41,267 This murder was stupid. 656 00:31:41,367 --> 00:31:44,303 Larry George didn't go there to kill Ralph Swain. 657 00:31:44,403 --> 00:31:47,806 Larry George didn't go there to kill Janice Morris. 658 00:31:47,906 --> 00:31:50,776 Ralph or Janice, neither one knew Larry. 659 00:31:50,876 --> 00:31:54,880 They were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time 660 00:31:54,981 --> 00:31:56,515 and it was senseless. 661 00:31:59,151 --> 00:32:01,353 ROBERT STACK: Geraldine George survived the shooting 662 00:32:01,453 --> 00:32:03,689 but was left paralyzed from the waist down. 663 00:32:08,527 --> 00:32:11,330 The next day, a Talladega County Sheriff's deputy 664 00:32:11,430 --> 00:32:15,267 was dispatched to a campsite six miles out of town. 665 00:32:15,367 --> 00:32:19,005 A car had been discovered hidden in the brush. 666 00:32:19,105 --> 00:32:20,806 It was registered to Larry George. 667 00:32:24,176 --> 00:32:26,812 TOM BOWERMAN: We found a campsite, personal belongings 668 00:32:26,912 --> 00:32:28,114 belonging to Mr. George. 669 00:32:28,214 --> 00:32:32,218 We didn't find the weapon that was used in the attack. 670 00:32:32,318 --> 00:32:34,853 There was no weapons found with the car. 671 00:32:34,953 --> 00:32:37,389 He had been living in the car. 672 00:32:37,489 --> 00:32:39,825 There was a lot of clothing in the car. 673 00:32:39,925 --> 00:32:43,562 We found a notebook where it appeared that Mr. George had 674 00:32:43,662 --> 00:32:47,366 been keeping a diary as to who came 675 00:32:47,466 --> 00:32:54,040 and went at his wife's apartment and camouflage clothing. 676 00:32:54,140 --> 00:32:56,342 Since Larry's left the area, we found 677 00:32:56,442 --> 00:33:00,979 that he spent some time in South Alabama with his sister. 678 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:02,948 He spent some time in the Florida 679 00:33:03,049 --> 00:33:04,516 panhandle area, which is where he 680 00:33:04,616 --> 00:33:07,753 attended truck driving school. 681 00:33:07,853 --> 00:33:09,955 A large quantity of his belongings 682 00:33:10,056 --> 00:33:12,691 were covered in the Roanoke, Virginia, area, 683 00:33:12,791 --> 00:33:15,027 along some railroad tracks. 684 00:33:15,127 --> 00:33:20,799 I want Larry George to pay for what he did. 685 00:33:20,899 --> 00:33:22,268 I want him to pay. 686 00:33:25,704 --> 00:33:32,478 Because he didn't have any business killing anybody. 687 00:33:32,578 --> 00:33:34,680 I don't know why he killed my daughter. 688 00:33:34,780 --> 00:33:38,884 I don't know why he killed Ralph. 689 00:33:38,984 --> 00:33:41,820 But I think he should be punished for what he did. 690 00:33:44,623 --> 00:33:46,825 After the most recent broadcast of this story, 691 00:33:46,925 --> 00:33:48,794 the authorities were contacted by an "Unsolved 692 00:33:48,894 --> 00:33:50,662 Mysteries" viewer. 693 00:33:50,762 --> 00:33:52,764 The viewer claimed to have seen Larry George 694 00:33:52,864 --> 00:33:54,766 fishing on the banks of the Christina River 695 00:33:54,866 --> 00:33:56,568 in Wilmington, Delaware. 696 00:33:56,668 --> 00:33:58,837 Three days later, two police detectives 697 00:33:58,937 --> 00:33:59,971 were dispatched to the area. 698 00:34:03,475 --> 00:34:05,744 For our cameras, the officers recounted 699 00:34:05,844 --> 00:34:08,880 their dramatic meeting with Larry George. 700 00:34:08,980 --> 00:34:11,250 This is where we first encountered Larry George at. 701 00:34:11,350 --> 00:34:12,384 Right here. 702 00:34:12,484 --> 00:34:14,720 We began a conversation with him about fishing. 703 00:34:14,820 --> 00:34:16,322 At this time, he wanted to take us over 704 00:34:16,422 --> 00:34:18,157 here to where his pole was in the water 705 00:34:18,257 --> 00:34:21,093 and show us exactly where he was fishing at. 706 00:34:21,193 --> 00:34:22,561 We got about here, and we started 707 00:34:22,661 --> 00:34:24,363 talking again about fishing. 708 00:34:24,463 --> 00:34:26,598 And it was at this time where myself and Detective Pinkett 709 00:34:26,698 --> 00:34:30,068 made eye contact and identified myself as a police officer 710 00:34:30,169 --> 00:34:31,337 to Larry. 711 00:34:31,437 --> 00:34:34,506 At this time, a brief struggle ensued right about here. 712 00:34:34,606 --> 00:34:37,309 We all three fell to the ground here. 713 00:34:37,409 --> 00:34:39,511 We got back to our feet, still struggling. 714 00:34:39,611 --> 00:34:41,046 And at that point, we just turned 715 00:34:41,147 --> 00:34:42,681 and threw Larry into the water. 716 00:34:45,517 --> 00:34:47,153 ROBERT STACK: While the officers regrouped, 717 00:34:47,253 --> 00:34:49,555 George attempted to flee downriver, 718 00:34:49,655 --> 00:34:51,657 but backup units quickly cornered him 719 00:34:51,757 --> 00:34:53,525 and he surrendered without further struggle. 720 00:34:59,965 --> 00:35:01,633 At George's campsite, police found 721 00:35:01,733 --> 00:35:04,336 a makeshift bunker, complete with generator, 722 00:35:04,436 --> 00:35:07,206 heater, television, and stove. 723 00:35:07,306 --> 00:35:09,808 The subsequent discovery of several weapons, 724 00:35:09,908 --> 00:35:12,644 including a speargun and a sawed-off shotgun, 725 00:35:12,744 --> 00:35:14,680 led investigators to believe that George 726 00:35:14,780 --> 00:35:16,548 had been prepared to resist arrest 727 00:35:16,648 --> 00:35:19,885 by whatever means necessary. 728 00:35:19,985 --> 00:35:21,487 BRUCE PINKETT: He knew he was wanted for murder. 729 00:35:21,587 --> 00:35:24,356 He wasn't going to be taken alive if he would have 730 00:35:24,456 --> 00:35:25,757 put himself in his hideout. 731 00:35:25,857 --> 00:35:27,926 And if we had discovered it, we probably 732 00:35:28,026 --> 00:35:33,199 would have had gunfire and officers would have been hurt. 733 00:35:33,299 --> 00:35:37,035 ROBERT STACK: On April 27, 1994, Larry Donald George 734 00:35:37,135 --> 00:35:39,738 was extradited to Alabama to face charges 735 00:35:39,838 --> 00:35:42,174 of murder and attempted murder. 736 00:35:42,274 --> 00:35:44,776 It was a long-awaited moment for Geraldine George 737 00:35:44,876 --> 00:35:49,248 and the families of Ralph Swain and Janice Morris. 738 00:35:49,348 --> 00:35:52,451 MIKE HAMLIN: They're delighted, bringing this to an end. 739 00:35:52,551 --> 00:35:55,086 And I can understand their feelings about the situation 740 00:35:55,187 --> 00:35:57,623 simply because it's been a long six years, 741 00:35:57,723 --> 00:35:59,658 and really not knowing where he is 742 00:35:59,758 --> 00:36:02,060 and if he would show back up. 743 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,895 I'm sure that brought a lot of discomfort 744 00:36:03,995 --> 00:36:05,531 and a lot of sleepless nights to them, 745 00:36:05,631 --> 00:36:08,200 so I know that they're very happy that this 746 00:36:08,300 --> 00:36:10,168 is sure to be drawn to a close. 747 00:36:26,852 --> 00:36:28,186 ROBERT STACK: Next, a man's search 748 00:36:28,287 --> 00:36:29,788 for the sisters and brother he has 749 00:36:29,888 --> 00:36:31,790 not seen for nearly 30 years. 750 00:36:44,002 --> 00:36:47,005 In the summer of 1961, Harley and Roni Price 751 00:36:47,105 --> 00:36:50,008 of Wyandotte, Michigan, gathered their children together to pose 752 00:36:50,108 --> 00:36:52,711 for this happy family portrait. 753 00:36:52,811 --> 00:36:55,046 But appearances can be deceiving. 754 00:36:55,146 --> 00:36:57,115 Within three years, Harley and Ronnie 755 00:36:57,215 --> 00:36:59,985 would be permanently separated and their children scattered, 756 00:37:00,085 --> 00:37:02,754 torn apart by alcoholism. 757 00:37:02,854 --> 00:37:06,892 Eugene Price was just nine years old at the time. 758 00:37:06,992 --> 00:37:08,193 EUGENE PRICE: I want to see my sisters, 759 00:37:08,294 --> 00:37:10,061 and I want to see my brother. 760 00:37:10,161 --> 00:37:11,663 That's what I want. 761 00:37:11,763 --> 00:37:17,736 I feel responsible to let them know about how things happened 762 00:37:17,836 --> 00:37:19,971 between my mom and dad. 763 00:37:20,071 --> 00:37:22,073 Things that they may not understand because they were 764 00:37:22,173 --> 00:37:25,644 younger that I spent more time with my dad and mom 765 00:37:25,744 --> 00:37:28,146 and know some of the answers. 766 00:37:28,246 --> 00:37:32,918 But most of all, I want to find my sisters and my brother 767 00:37:33,018 --> 00:37:33,919 because they're my family. 768 00:37:38,056 --> 00:37:40,392 Eugene Price has spent most of his adult life searching 769 00:37:40,492 --> 00:37:42,794 for his sisters and brother. 770 00:37:42,894 --> 00:37:45,063 He wants them to know that they were not abandoned as children, 771 00:37:45,163 --> 00:37:47,032 but were the innocent victims of their parents' 772 00:37:47,132 --> 00:37:48,967 tumultuous marriage. 773 00:37:49,067 --> 00:37:51,803 Today, along with his brother Dean and his mother Roni, 774 00:37:51,903 --> 00:37:53,539 Eugene hopes that one of our viewers 775 00:37:53,639 --> 00:37:55,874 can help reunite them with the rest of the family. 776 00:38:00,211 --> 00:38:03,749 It was the spring of 1953 in New York City. 777 00:38:03,849 --> 00:38:06,818 Harley Price, nicknamed Smokey, was a navy veteran 778 00:38:06,918 --> 00:38:08,820 who was working as a roofer when he began 779 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,856 dating a co-worker's daughter. 780 00:38:10,956 --> 00:38:11,923 Roni. 781 00:38:12,023 --> 00:38:12,824 Roni, right? 782 00:38:12,924 --> 00:38:16,061 - Yeah. - You know me? 783 00:38:16,161 --> 00:38:17,162 Yeah, I think I do. 784 00:38:17,262 --> 00:38:18,730 Yeah, I work for your dad. I do roofs. 785 00:38:18,830 --> 00:38:20,065 OK, that's right. 786 00:38:20,165 --> 00:38:20,999 I've seen you come by the house a few times for the truck, 787 00:38:21,099 --> 00:38:22,734 right? - Yeah. 788 00:38:22,834 --> 00:38:25,136 ROBERT STACK: Eugene's mother, Roni, was just 16 789 00:38:25,236 --> 00:38:27,906 and was immediately swept off her feet. 790 00:38:28,006 --> 00:38:31,377 She had no idea that Harley was married with a child at home. 791 00:38:31,477 --> 00:38:34,145 Well, I try to get out of the house as much as possible. 792 00:38:34,245 --> 00:38:35,747 RONI QUERCIO: When I first met Harley, 793 00:38:35,847 --> 00:38:39,485 I thought he was very good-looking, very charming. 794 00:38:39,585 --> 00:38:41,853 And it just snowballed from there. 795 00:38:41,953 --> 00:38:42,754 Can I get a beer? 796 00:38:42,854 --> 00:38:45,357 I was a stupid 16-year-old kid. 797 00:38:45,457 --> 00:38:46,257 I wasn't around. 798 00:38:46,358 --> 00:38:47,726 I didn't know anything. 799 00:38:47,826 --> 00:38:50,028 I was having a hard time at home and he looked like a way out. 800 00:38:50,128 --> 00:38:52,498 I guess that's it. 801 00:38:52,598 --> 00:38:53,999 He gave me what I wasn't getting at home. 802 00:38:57,268 --> 00:38:59,237 ROBERT STACK: Within a year, Roni became pregnant 803 00:38:59,337 --> 00:39:02,040 and gave birth to her oldest son, Dean. 804 00:39:02,140 --> 00:39:04,676 10 months later, Eugene was born. 805 00:39:04,776 --> 00:39:07,813 Only then did Harley and Roni marry. 806 00:39:07,913 --> 00:39:10,916 Over the next six years, the Prices had three girls, 807 00:39:11,016 --> 00:39:12,618 Debby, Terri, and Sherry. 808 00:39:15,286 --> 00:39:17,923 Eventually, the Prices settled in Wyandotte, Michigan, 809 00:39:18,023 --> 00:39:21,192 just outside of Detroit. 810 00:39:21,292 --> 00:39:24,796 But as the family grew, Harley's drinking increased. 811 00:39:24,896 --> 00:39:27,899 Soon, his drunken forays turned into a full-blown nightmare 812 00:39:27,999 --> 00:39:30,001 for his wife and children. 813 00:39:30,101 --> 00:39:31,803 They lived in a constant state of fear, 814 00:39:31,903 --> 00:39:33,739 never knowing when Harley would erupt. 815 00:39:33,839 --> 00:39:34,806 Where have you been? 816 00:39:34,906 --> 00:39:35,874 Out. 817 00:39:35,974 --> 00:39:37,809 Having a little fun, a little recreation. 818 00:39:37,909 --> 00:39:40,045 We've been waiting here since 3 o'clock! 819 00:39:40,145 --> 00:39:42,047 Don't start with me. 820 00:39:42,147 --> 00:39:42,981 Well-- 821 00:39:43,081 --> 00:39:44,082 Don't start with me! 822 00:39:44,182 --> 00:39:44,983 You could've called. 823 00:39:45,083 --> 00:39:46,051 Oh, shut up! 824 00:39:46,151 --> 00:39:47,318 EUGENE PRICE: He'd come home late at night 825 00:39:47,419 --> 00:39:50,288 and then we'd hear my mom and him arguing. 826 00:39:50,388 --> 00:39:51,222 Yeah? 827 00:39:51,322 --> 00:39:52,458 So put him to bed! 828 00:39:52,558 --> 00:39:53,492 I need your help! 829 00:39:53,592 --> 00:39:54,726 EUGENE PRICE: When he wasn't drinking, 830 00:39:54,826 --> 00:39:59,264 he could be one of the nicest people you ever met. 831 00:39:59,364 --> 00:40:01,767 It's just that's what the alcohol had done to him. 832 00:40:01,867 --> 00:40:05,871 It just turned him into a bad person. 833 00:40:05,971 --> 00:40:07,405 And he just had no control over it. 834 00:40:10,976 --> 00:40:11,810 You guys stay here. 835 00:40:11,910 --> 00:40:12,711 I'll be right back. 836 00:40:16,381 --> 00:40:17,683 ROBERT STACK: On more than one occasion, 837 00:40:17,783 --> 00:40:19,718 Harley took his children along as he made 838 00:40:19,818 --> 00:40:22,488 his rounds at the local bars. 839 00:40:22,588 --> 00:40:24,155 He would lock them in the car and then 840 00:40:24,255 --> 00:40:26,091 disappear for hours at a time. 841 00:40:29,628 --> 00:40:31,196 RONI QUERCIO: One evening, I was waiting for Harley 842 00:40:31,296 --> 00:40:32,130 to come home with the kids. 843 00:40:32,230 --> 00:40:33,532 He had taken them out. 844 00:40:33,632 --> 00:40:34,432 It was rainy. 845 00:40:34,533 --> 00:40:36,535 It was cold. 846 00:40:36,635 --> 00:40:40,972 And when I got there, the kids were all curled up in the car 847 00:40:41,072 --> 00:40:42,373 and he was in the bar, drinking. 848 00:40:45,076 --> 00:40:46,211 I was very upset. 849 00:40:46,311 --> 00:40:49,781 I was very angry because, the way I looked at it, 850 00:40:49,881 --> 00:40:52,918 they were there almost all day and he didn't care. 851 00:40:53,018 --> 00:40:56,488 You don't leave kids in a locked car in the cold weather. 852 00:40:56,588 --> 00:40:59,491 But he didn't care. 853 00:40:59,591 --> 00:41:00,792 ROBERT STACK: At other times, Harley 854 00:41:00,892 --> 00:41:03,529 would use the children as pawns in a sadistic game he 855 00:41:03,629 --> 00:41:05,196 would play with their mother. 856 00:41:05,296 --> 00:41:07,132 OK, this is the way it is for everybody. 857 00:41:07,232 --> 00:41:09,067 You kids have to make a choice. 858 00:41:09,167 --> 00:41:09,968 Both of you. 859 00:41:10,068 --> 00:41:11,770 You have to choose. 860 00:41:11,870 --> 00:41:14,239 If your mom and me split-- 861 00:41:14,339 --> 00:41:16,942 if she goes, who do you want to stay with, me or her? 862 00:41:17,042 --> 00:41:17,943 Huh? 863 00:41:18,043 --> 00:41:19,177 Me? Huh? 864 00:41:19,277 --> 00:41:20,546 Me? 865 00:41:20,646 --> 00:41:22,347 Do you want to stay with me, or do you want to go with her? 866 00:41:22,447 --> 00:41:23,248 You, Dad. 867 00:41:23,348 --> 00:41:25,016 We want to stay with you. 868 00:41:25,116 --> 00:41:29,287 EUGENE PRICE: We were scared if we said our mother that my dad 869 00:41:29,387 --> 00:41:32,257 would get very angry and upset. 870 00:41:32,357 --> 00:41:36,595 And that would either start another fight with my mom 871 00:41:36,695 --> 00:41:39,230 and dad, or else we would end up getting spanked 872 00:41:39,330 --> 00:41:41,266 or there would be some kind of retaliation. 873 00:41:49,207 --> 00:41:52,744 ROBERT STACK: In 1963, the Price family grew larger, 874 00:41:52,844 --> 00:41:54,680 but the new baby, Jimmy, was born 875 00:41:54,780 --> 00:41:57,783 with an intestinal blockage and a defective heart. 876 00:41:57,883 --> 00:42:02,588 For Roni, a bad situation turned worse. 877 00:42:02,688 --> 00:42:04,055 RONI QUERCIO: He had heart surgery 878 00:42:04,155 --> 00:42:05,891 when he was three months old. 879 00:42:05,991 --> 00:42:10,762 And then it was in and out of the hospital for a year. 880 00:42:10,862 --> 00:42:13,464 He'd be home for maybe a day and then he'd be back in again. 881 00:42:16,702 --> 00:42:19,738 ROBERT STACK: In 1964, tragedy struck. 882 00:42:19,838 --> 00:42:21,807 During a freak storm, the Prices' house 883 00:42:21,907 --> 00:42:25,611 was hit by lightening and engulfed in flames. 884 00:42:25,711 --> 00:42:27,445 Everyone escaped, but the house was 885 00:42:27,545 --> 00:42:29,848 completely destroyed, and with it, all 886 00:42:29,948 --> 00:42:33,785 of the family's possessions. 887 00:42:33,885 --> 00:42:36,855 RONI QUERCIO: After the fire, I cracked. 888 00:42:36,955 --> 00:42:38,456 I broke down. 889 00:42:38,556 --> 00:42:40,025 And from there, it just snowballed. 890 00:42:40,125 --> 00:42:42,193 It was just too much for me anymore. 891 00:42:44,763 --> 00:42:45,864 ROBERT STACK: Roni felt she could no 892 00:42:45,964 --> 00:42:48,566 longer tolerate Harley's abuse. 893 00:42:48,667 --> 00:42:52,470 With the help of a friend, she fled back home to New York. 894 00:42:52,570 --> 00:42:54,472 Two weeks passed before she realized 895 00:42:54,572 --> 00:42:57,408 the painful consequence of her actions. 896 00:42:57,508 --> 00:43:00,278 She had gotten away from her husband, but in the process, 897 00:43:00,378 --> 00:43:04,315 she had lost her children, as well. 898 00:43:04,415 --> 00:43:08,019 RONI QUERCIO: I called these people, social services, 899 00:43:08,119 --> 00:43:10,188 and I told them that I would like to have my children. 900 00:43:10,288 --> 00:43:11,089 I had left. 901 00:43:11,189 --> 00:43:12,157 I want to have my children back. 902 00:43:12,257 --> 00:43:13,792 And they told me, absolutely not, 903 00:43:13,892 --> 00:43:15,326 that the only way I could get them 904 00:43:15,426 --> 00:43:17,395 would be to go back to my husband. 905 00:43:17,495 --> 00:43:21,933 And I told him, no, because if I went back, he'd kill me. 906 00:43:22,033 --> 00:43:24,169 ROBERT STACK: The social services representative stepped 907 00:43:24,269 --> 00:43:26,471 in to protect the children. 908 00:43:26,571 --> 00:43:27,939 The three girls and the baby were 909 00:43:28,039 --> 00:43:30,341 sent to the St. Vincent, Sarah Fisher Home, 910 00:43:30,441 --> 00:43:33,244 an orphanage just outside of Detroit. 911 00:43:33,344 --> 00:43:34,913 Eugene and his older brother, Dean 912 00:43:35,013 --> 00:43:37,749 remained with their father. 913 00:43:37,849 --> 00:43:38,684 Hi. 914 00:43:38,784 --> 00:43:40,118 Hi. 915 00:43:40,218 --> 00:43:42,287 ROBERT STACK: Several months passed before Harley finally 916 00:43:42,387 --> 00:43:44,189 took Eugene and Dean to the orphanage 917 00:43:44,289 --> 00:43:45,090 to visit their sisters. 918 00:43:45,190 --> 00:43:46,291 We're OK, too. 919 00:43:46,391 --> 00:43:47,192 Yeah? 920 00:43:47,292 --> 00:43:48,126 Yeah. 921 00:43:48,226 --> 00:43:49,427 Do you go to school here? 922 00:43:49,527 --> 00:43:50,361 Yeah. 923 00:43:50,461 --> 00:43:51,296 Too bad. 924 00:43:51,396 --> 00:43:53,665 Yeah. 925 00:43:53,765 --> 00:43:56,101 EUGENE PRICE: When we went and seen the girls at Sarah Fisher, 926 00:43:56,201 --> 00:43:57,435 it was, more or less, we were just 927 00:43:57,535 --> 00:44:00,305 glad to see each other because we hadn't seen each other 928 00:44:00,405 --> 00:44:02,440 for a period of time. 929 00:44:02,540 --> 00:44:06,044 And while we were there, we're anticipating 930 00:44:06,144 --> 00:44:09,114 that we're going to get the family back together. 931 00:44:09,214 --> 00:44:12,017 I think that was part of the conversation. 932 00:44:12,117 --> 00:44:14,285 And that everything would be fine. 933 00:44:14,385 --> 00:44:17,355 After we got done talking with my sisters, which didn't seem 934 00:44:17,455 --> 00:44:20,591 like a long period of time, my dad says, 935 00:44:20,692 --> 00:44:23,929 it's time for us to leave. 936 00:44:24,029 --> 00:44:25,697 That was the last time we seen them. 937 00:44:25,797 --> 00:44:26,564 Haven't seen them since. 938 00:44:30,301 --> 00:44:32,103 ROBERT STACK: A few months later, Dean and Eugene 939 00:44:32,203 --> 00:44:33,805 were taken from their father and placed 940 00:44:33,905 --> 00:44:36,107 in the foster care system. 941 00:44:36,207 --> 00:44:38,209 Over the next few years, they would be shuttled 942 00:44:38,309 --> 00:44:39,811 from one family to another. 943 00:44:43,548 --> 00:44:45,450 Eugene eventually served in the Army, 944 00:44:45,550 --> 00:44:48,820 then settled down and started his own family. 945 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:53,424 In 1971, Eugene and Dean reunited with their mother. 946 00:44:53,524 --> 00:44:57,128 12 years later, their father, Harley, passed away. 947 00:44:57,228 --> 00:45:00,031 Today, Eugene is determined to rebuild the family that 948 00:45:00,131 --> 00:45:01,733 was torn apart so long ago. 949 00:45:04,870 --> 00:45:06,104 EUGENE PRICE: My sisters and my brother, 950 00:45:06,204 --> 00:45:08,573 Jimmy, have always been in back of my mind. 951 00:45:08,673 --> 00:45:09,474 I love them. 952 00:45:09,574 --> 00:45:11,509 I miss them. 953 00:45:11,609 --> 00:45:16,647 My ultimate goal is to bring us all back together. 954 00:45:16,748 --> 00:45:18,950 We deserve-- Dean and I deserve to see them, 955 00:45:19,050 --> 00:45:21,386 and they deserve to see us and know a little bit 956 00:45:21,486 --> 00:45:23,922 about their original family. 957 00:45:27,793 --> 00:45:28,726 ROBERT STACK: Update. 958 00:45:28,827 --> 00:45:30,862 On the night of our broadcast, Eugene 959 00:45:30,962 --> 00:45:33,398 was overjoyed to learn that Sherry, the youngest 960 00:45:33,498 --> 00:45:36,167 of his long-lost sisters, had seen the story 961 00:45:36,267 --> 00:45:37,769 and was anxious to contact him. 962 00:45:40,405 --> 00:45:41,439 I started crying. 963 00:45:41,539 --> 00:45:42,573 My husband said, what's wrong? What's wrong? 964 00:45:42,673 --> 00:45:44,175 I said, that's me! That's me! 965 00:45:44,275 --> 00:45:45,777 I said, that's our family. 966 00:45:45,877 --> 00:45:47,913 And he just started crying. 967 00:45:48,013 --> 00:45:50,916 I got my kids up and then he started 968 00:45:51,016 --> 00:45:55,753 calling the show as soon as they showed the number on it. 969 00:45:55,854 --> 00:45:58,689 When Eugene and Sherry spoke on the phone that evening, 970 00:45:58,790 --> 00:46:00,525 Eugene was saddened to learn that his younger 971 00:46:00,625 --> 00:46:04,662 brother, Jimmy, had died of heart disease in 1973. 972 00:46:04,762 --> 00:46:08,233 However, he was thrilled to know that Sherry, Terri, and Debby 973 00:46:08,333 --> 00:46:10,701 had all been adopted by the same family 974 00:46:10,802 --> 00:46:12,770 and had been searching for Eugene and his brother, Dean, 975 00:46:12,871 --> 00:46:13,671 as well. 976 00:46:16,574 --> 00:46:20,111 On February 7, 1993, all of the Price children 977 00:46:20,211 --> 00:46:22,013 gathered for an emotional reunion 978 00:46:22,113 --> 00:46:25,583 at a restaurant near Eugene's home in Taylor, Michigan. 979 00:46:25,683 --> 00:46:28,486 It was their first time together in 29 years. 980 00:46:41,799 --> 00:46:44,235 TERRI RICHERT: It's a miracle to me. 981 00:46:44,335 --> 00:46:46,271 I thought the reunion-- 982 00:46:46,371 --> 00:46:47,906 it would never come to this. 983 00:46:48,006 --> 00:46:51,076 I thought we'd never see each other again. 984 00:46:51,176 --> 00:46:53,278 But it happened. 985 00:46:53,378 --> 00:46:54,779 Oh, my god. 986 00:47:02,888 --> 00:47:04,589 EUGENE PRICE: When we seen each other for the first 987 00:47:04,689 --> 00:47:06,624 time after 20-some years-- 988 00:47:06,724 --> 00:47:10,661 You look just like me. 989 00:47:10,761 --> 00:47:12,130 --my son, he started crying. 990 00:47:12,230 --> 00:47:13,131 My wife started crying. 991 00:47:13,231 --> 00:47:14,199 Her daughter started crying. 992 00:47:14,299 --> 00:47:16,201 It was really exciting. 993 00:47:16,301 --> 00:47:20,105 It's exciting to know we now have a whole new family. 994 00:47:20,205 --> 00:47:24,910 We have the family that we've been missing all these years 995 00:47:25,010 --> 00:47:27,979 that I have tried to find. 996 00:47:28,079 --> 00:47:30,381 This is my oldest girl, Tracy. 997 00:47:30,481 --> 00:47:33,551 This is my next-oldest girl, Ginger. 998 00:47:33,651 --> 00:47:35,453 ROBERT STACK: In reuniting with her sisters, 999 00:47:35,553 --> 00:47:37,722 Eugene and his brother, Dean, almost got 1000 00:47:37,822 --> 00:47:39,690 more than they bargained for. 1001 00:47:39,790 --> 00:47:42,027 A small, divided family had suddenly 1002 00:47:42,127 --> 00:47:44,595 blossomed into a joyful clan of uncles, 1003 00:47:44,695 --> 00:47:46,664 aunts, nephews, and nieces. 1004 00:47:50,101 --> 00:47:53,171 Now I got three sisters that I'm going to be able to see 1005 00:47:53,271 --> 00:47:54,605 and I haven't seen in years. 1006 00:47:58,343 --> 00:48:00,645 It's just unbelievable. 1007 00:48:00,745 --> 00:48:04,315 I'm thrilled to death to have them back. 1008 00:48:04,415 --> 00:48:06,417 Now we'll be able to spend the rest of our lives together. 1009 00:48:19,897 --> 00:48:21,532 Join me next time. 1010 00:48:21,632 --> 00:48:24,802 Perhaps you may be able to help solve a mystery. 1011 00:48:24,902 --> 00:48:28,739 [music playing] 78963

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