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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,534 --> 00:00:02,670 [music playing] 2 00:00:04,705 --> 00:00:07,408 ANNOUNCER: This program is about unsolved mysteries. 3 00:00:07,508 --> 00:00:09,410 Whenever possible, the actual family members 4 00:00:09,510 --> 00:00:11,379 and police officials have participated 5 00:00:11,479 --> 00:00:13,013 in recreating the events. 6 00:00:13,114 --> 00:00:15,316 What you are about to see is not a news broadcast. 7 00:00:15,416 --> 00:00:18,119 [music playing] 8 00:00:20,454 --> 00:00:21,655 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): In the 1940s, 9 00:00:21,755 --> 00:00:23,524 Elizabeth Short arrived in Hollywood 10 00:00:23,624 --> 00:00:26,827 with dreams of stardom, but at the age of 22 11 00:00:26,927 --> 00:00:30,464 her life was snuffed out by a gruesome unknown killer. 12 00:00:30,564 --> 00:00:33,467 Nearly 50 years later, the death of the Black Dahlia 13 00:00:33,567 --> 00:00:35,469 remains one of the great unsolved murder 14 00:00:35,569 --> 00:00:38,106 cases of the century. 15 00:00:38,206 --> 00:00:40,408 When she was just 16, Brenda Merrill 16 00:00:40,508 --> 00:00:42,510 was abruptly thrust into adulthood, 17 00:00:42,610 --> 00:00:45,679 left alone to care for five younger brothers and sisters. 18 00:00:45,779 --> 00:00:48,716 But after surviving a harsh, cold winter, 19 00:00:48,816 --> 00:00:51,018 Brenda could only watch helplessly as the children 20 00:00:51,119 --> 00:00:54,088 were taken from her one by one. 21 00:00:54,188 --> 00:00:56,190 And from Deadwood, South Dakota, we'll 22 00:00:56,290 --> 00:00:58,892 bring you the bizarre tale of a ghostly alliance 23 00:00:58,992 --> 00:01:01,529 between a psychic in England and the restless spirit 24 00:01:01,629 --> 00:01:04,498 of a legendary law man. 25 00:01:04,598 --> 00:01:06,934 Join me for these intriguing stories 26 00:01:07,034 --> 00:01:10,238 on another edition of "Unsolved Mysteries." 27 00:01:10,338 --> 00:01:14,208 [music playing] 28 00:02:07,995 --> 00:02:09,997 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Her looks were unmistakable. 29 00:02:10,097 --> 00:02:12,200 She had jet black hair and a penchant 30 00:02:12,300 --> 00:02:15,068 for wearing black dresses and lingerie. 31 00:02:15,169 --> 00:02:16,804 Those who knew her best said she had 32 00:02:16,904 --> 00:02:21,442 a tattoo of an exotic flower on her inner thigh. 33 00:02:21,542 --> 00:02:24,578 Around Hollywood, she was known as the Black Dahlia. 34 00:02:24,678 --> 00:02:27,681 And in 1947, she became the centerpiece of one 35 00:02:27,781 --> 00:02:30,083 of the most celebrated murder investigations 36 00:02:30,184 --> 00:02:33,454 in American history. 37 00:02:33,554 --> 00:02:36,089 On a cool, crisp morning that January, 38 00:02:36,190 --> 00:02:39,560 the nude, mutilated body of 22-year-old Elizabeth Short 39 00:02:39,660 --> 00:02:42,563 was discovered in a weed infested lot in the Crenshaw 40 00:02:42,663 --> 00:02:44,865 district of Los Angeles. 41 00:02:44,965 --> 00:02:47,735 What made the murder so unique was the barbaric nature 42 00:02:47,835 --> 00:02:49,237 of the crime. 43 00:02:49,337 --> 00:02:52,440 The Black Dalia's body had been neatly severed in half, 44 00:02:52,540 --> 00:02:54,642 gutted, and drained of blood. 45 00:02:54,742 --> 00:02:56,009 You know, it looks like whoever 46 00:02:56,109 --> 00:02:59,913 did this, scrubbed her down, cleaned her up, and dumped her. 47 00:03:00,013 --> 00:03:02,250 I mean, there's not an absolute drop of blood 48 00:03:02,350 --> 00:03:03,150 anywhere to be found. 49 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:08,956 As you can see, the cuts on the body 50 00:03:09,056 --> 00:03:11,859 are incredibly clean and precise, almost as 51 00:03:11,959 --> 00:03:14,595 if it were done professor. 52 00:03:14,695 --> 00:03:18,832 LAWRENCE SCHERB: Her face had been very brutally cut from ear 53 00:03:18,932 --> 00:03:23,404 to ear in a grin like this. 54 00:03:23,504 --> 00:03:25,105 Her throat had been cut. 55 00:03:25,205 --> 00:03:30,077 And she had been mutilated sexually. 56 00:03:30,177 --> 00:03:33,113 And basically, she was the worst case 57 00:03:33,213 --> 00:03:38,486 of a sex crime in the history of Los Angeles County. 58 00:03:38,586 --> 00:03:40,388 It was on a quiet, peaceful neighborhood, 59 00:03:40,488 --> 00:03:43,791 not far from here, the body of Elizabeth Short 60 00:03:43,891 --> 00:03:47,127 was discovered nearly half a century ago. 61 00:03:47,227 --> 00:03:50,130 Ever since, the case has baffled law enforcement officials 62 00:03:50,230 --> 00:03:52,666 and crime buffs alike. 63 00:03:52,766 --> 00:03:54,835 Today, Lawrence Scherb claims to have evidence which 64 00:03:54,935 --> 00:03:56,870 links the killer, the Black Dahlia, 65 00:03:56,970 --> 00:03:59,540 to another notorious murder, Cleveland's 66 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,609 infamous Torso Slayer. 67 00:04:01,709 --> 00:04:04,678 He is best remembered for having evaded one of the country's 68 00:04:04,778 --> 00:04:07,781 most celebrated crime fighters, a man I came 69 00:04:07,881 --> 00:04:12,753 to know quite well, Eliot Ness. 70 00:04:12,853 --> 00:04:15,623 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Between 1935 and 1942, 71 00:04:15,723 --> 00:04:17,958 Eliot Ness served as public safety director 72 00:04:18,058 --> 00:04:19,727 in Cleveland, Ohio. 73 00:04:19,827 --> 00:04:22,162 During his tenure, the city was terrorized 74 00:04:22,262 --> 00:04:24,832 by a string of sadistic, unsolved murders, which 75 00:04:24,932 --> 00:04:27,200 Lawrence Scherb believes are directly connected 76 00:04:27,301 --> 00:04:30,504 to the Black Dahlia case. 77 00:04:30,604 --> 00:04:32,740 How the life of a legendary lawman 78 00:04:32,840 --> 00:04:35,075 and the death of an obscure, aspiring actors 79 00:04:35,175 --> 00:04:40,814 became intertwined is a story well worth exploring. 80 00:04:40,914 --> 00:04:42,316 I have just enough room for dessert. 81 00:04:42,416 --> 00:04:43,717 - May I take your hat? - Not now. 82 00:04:43,817 --> 00:04:44,818 We can dessert someplace else. 83 00:04:44,918 --> 00:04:45,719 Oh. 84 00:04:45,819 --> 00:04:46,920 What did you have in mind? 85 00:04:47,020 --> 00:04:48,522 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Elizabeth Short's life 86 00:04:48,622 --> 00:04:50,691 was as sad as it was brief. 87 00:04:50,791 --> 00:04:53,527 Like so many other young women, she had been lured to Hollywood 88 00:04:53,627 --> 00:04:55,963 with dreams of becoming a star. 89 00:04:56,063 --> 00:04:59,567 But she soon discovered that fame was an elusive fantasy. 90 00:04:59,667 --> 00:05:02,670 With her career going nowhere and her money depleted, 91 00:05:02,770 --> 00:05:06,807 Elizabeth eventually drifted into prostitution. 92 00:05:06,907 --> 00:05:08,376 Can you take me home? 93 00:05:08,476 --> 00:05:09,443 Yes, I will. 94 00:05:09,543 --> 00:05:11,479 I need a ride all the way to Los Angeles? 95 00:05:11,579 --> 00:05:13,581 Can you take me to Los Angeles? - Yes. 96 00:05:13,681 --> 00:05:14,748 Oh, great. Thank you. 97 00:05:14,848 --> 00:05:16,049 You're welcome. 98 00:05:16,149 --> 00:05:17,451 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Elizabeth Short's final days 99 00:05:17,551 --> 00:05:19,019 were shrouded in mystery. 100 00:05:19,119 --> 00:05:20,988 She seemed to be constantly on the move 101 00:05:21,088 --> 00:05:23,857 and was last seen leaving a diner in San Diego 102 00:05:23,957 --> 00:05:27,327 with a man who has never been identified. 103 00:05:27,428 --> 00:05:28,662 LAWRENCE SCHERB: She called him Red when 104 00:05:28,762 --> 00:05:30,598 she spoke to him in the diner. 105 00:05:30,698 --> 00:05:32,566 And he did have reddish colored hair. 106 00:05:32,666 --> 00:05:35,969 However, the police were never able to positively identify 107 00:05:36,069 --> 00:05:37,805 him, although some people felt that he 108 00:05:37,905 --> 00:05:40,774 might have been Robert Manley. 109 00:05:40,874 --> 00:05:42,910 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Robert Manley was a hardware salesman 110 00:05:43,010 --> 00:05:45,178 who had dated Elizabeth Short. 111 00:05:45,278 --> 00:05:46,680 Police brought him in for questioning 112 00:05:46,780 --> 00:05:48,582 but cleared him of the crime. 113 00:05:48,682 --> 00:05:50,317 Other men who were involved with the Dalia 114 00:05:50,418 --> 00:05:53,320 were also interrogated, but each, like Manley, 115 00:05:53,421 --> 00:05:55,288 had an airtight alibi. 116 00:05:55,389 --> 00:05:57,791 The authorities were completely stumped. 117 00:05:57,891 --> 00:06:01,529 Then a mysterious package was mailed to a local newspaper, 118 00:06:01,629 --> 00:06:03,431 a package from the killer. 119 00:06:03,531 --> 00:06:07,568 Boss, take a look at what I found in the mail. 120 00:06:07,668 --> 00:06:09,136 Here's Dahlia's belongings. 121 00:06:09,236 --> 00:06:11,605 Letter to follow. 122 00:06:11,705 --> 00:06:13,240 LAWRENCE SCHERB (VOICEOVER): Inside the envelope, 123 00:06:13,340 --> 00:06:16,644 they found Elizabeth Short's address book, which 124 00:06:16,744 --> 00:06:18,779 was in reality her trick book. 125 00:06:18,879 --> 00:06:22,282 And one of the pages in that book is missing. 126 00:06:22,382 --> 00:06:24,985 And it is undoubtedly true that upon that page 127 00:06:25,085 --> 00:06:27,054 was the name of the man who actually had killed her. 128 00:06:29,523 --> 00:06:30,791 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The package 129 00:06:30,891 --> 00:06:34,327 was the closest anyone ever got to the Black Dalia's killer, 130 00:06:34,428 --> 00:06:38,331 until Lawrence Scherb began to research the case in 1989 131 00:06:38,432 --> 00:06:43,103 and connected it to the torso slayings in Cleveland. 132 00:06:43,203 --> 00:06:45,806 That investigation was a great unsolved case 133 00:06:45,906 --> 00:06:47,975 of Eliot Ness's career. 134 00:06:48,075 --> 00:06:51,812 In 1935, after Ness left the renowned crime busting team, 135 00:06:51,912 --> 00:06:54,482 The Untouchables, he was appointed public safety 136 00:06:54,582 --> 00:06:55,883 director in Cleveland. 137 00:06:55,983 --> 00:06:59,152 Can you throw any light on the Kingsbury Run murders? 138 00:06:59,252 --> 00:07:00,053 Not at this time. 139 00:07:00,153 --> 00:07:01,421 That's enough questions. 140 00:07:01,522 --> 00:07:04,124 Has the victim been identified? 141 00:07:04,224 --> 00:07:07,127 Mr. Ness, they found the body late this morning. 142 00:07:07,227 --> 00:07:08,862 The arms and legs had been cut off. 143 00:07:08,962 --> 00:07:09,763 Scene of a crime. 144 00:07:09,863 --> 00:07:12,232 The men are still looking. 145 00:07:12,332 --> 00:07:13,200 Decapitated? 146 00:07:13,300 --> 00:07:14,401 Yes, sir. 147 00:07:14,502 --> 00:07:16,637 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Between 1934 and 1938, 148 00:07:16,737 --> 00:07:19,540 no less than 13 mutilated bodies were discovered 149 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,742 in the Kingsbury Run district and surrounding 150 00:07:21,842 --> 00:07:23,477 areas of Cleveland. 151 00:07:23,577 --> 00:07:26,379 The victims were all prostitutes or drifters. 152 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,517 The killer had dismembered and bisected most of the bodies 153 00:07:29,617 --> 00:07:31,885 with surgical precision, as what happened 154 00:07:31,985 --> 00:07:35,589 nine years later in the case of the Black Dahlia. 155 00:07:35,689 --> 00:07:37,591 Let's go. 156 00:07:37,691 --> 00:07:40,160 Now, Pete, I want you and your foot men to concentrate 157 00:07:40,260 --> 00:07:42,162 your surveillance in Kingsbury. 158 00:07:42,262 --> 00:07:44,064 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): By the end of 1939, 159 00:07:44,164 --> 00:07:47,200 it had been several months since the last Cleveland killing. 160 00:07:47,300 --> 00:07:49,302 In December, the city police chief 161 00:07:49,402 --> 00:07:52,706 received a letter which gave the first indication that the Torso 162 00:07:52,806 --> 00:07:54,174 Slayer had moved west. 163 00:07:54,274 --> 00:07:56,343 A letter from Los Angeles. 164 00:07:56,443 --> 00:07:58,378 And it's from the butcher, Eliot. 165 00:07:58,478 --> 00:08:00,480 It says he's killed a woman there. 166 00:08:00,581 --> 00:08:03,150 LAWRENCE SCHERB: In that letter, the Torso Killer 167 00:08:03,250 --> 00:08:07,320 describes the fact that he has left Cleveland 168 00:08:07,420 --> 00:08:10,190 and has come to California, as he described it, 169 00:08:10,290 --> 00:08:13,761 sunny California, and is now performing 170 00:08:13,861 --> 00:08:16,329 medical experiments upon his Guinea pig victims 171 00:08:16,429 --> 00:08:19,633 here in Los Angeles. 172 00:08:19,733 --> 00:08:23,571 Excuse me, can you direct me to Crenshaw and Fourth? 173 00:08:23,671 --> 00:08:25,839 Yeah, about three blocks down, straight ahead. 174 00:08:25,939 --> 00:08:27,207 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): In the letter, 175 00:08:27,307 --> 00:08:29,943 the killer bragged that he had already murdered one victim 176 00:08:30,043 --> 00:08:33,714 and buried the head in a gully in southwest Los Angeles. 177 00:08:33,814 --> 00:08:35,649 The butchered body of the Black Dahlia 178 00:08:35,749 --> 00:08:39,920 would be found in that same area eight years later. 179 00:08:40,020 --> 00:08:41,689 LAWRENCE SCHERB (VOICEOVER): The last Cleveland torso 180 00:08:41,789 --> 00:08:46,293 murder was committed in 1938. 181 00:08:46,393 --> 00:08:50,798 So when he describes coming to Los Angeles in late 1938 that 182 00:08:50,898 --> 00:08:54,568 does correspond chronologically with the fact 183 00:08:54,668 --> 00:08:56,937 that the Torso Killer had stopped killing 184 00:08:57,037 --> 00:08:59,439 earlier that year in Cleveland. 185 00:08:59,539 --> 00:09:00,774 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): In the letter, 186 00:09:00,874 --> 00:09:03,110 the killer referred to himself as a DC, 187 00:09:03,210 --> 00:09:05,178 a doctor of chiropractic. 188 00:09:05,278 --> 00:09:08,916 He said, quote, "I felt bad operating on those people, 189 00:09:09,016 --> 00:09:11,518 but science must advance." 190 00:09:11,619 --> 00:09:14,521 However, the letter is just the beginning of the Torso 191 00:09:14,622 --> 00:09:17,958 Slayer Black Dahlia connection. 192 00:09:18,058 --> 00:09:22,796 The killer apparently had a fetish for cleanliness 193 00:09:22,896 --> 00:09:27,300 and cleaned the Dahlia's body very carefully with water, 194 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:31,404 washed it very carefully, shampooed her hair, 195 00:09:31,504 --> 00:09:33,573 and scrubbed her with a bristle brush, 196 00:09:33,674 --> 00:09:38,278 so severely that he left bristles embedded in her skin. 197 00:09:38,378 --> 00:09:42,249 The Cleveland victims also indicate that there 198 00:09:42,349 --> 00:09:45,352 were attempts to clean bodies. 199 00:09:45,452 --> 00:09:48,656 And he was attempting to get rid of trace evidence. 200 00:09:48,756 --> 00:09:50,123 LAWRENCE SCHERB (VOICEOVER): A butcher knife 201 00:09:50,223 --> 00:09:55,428 was used to bisect the Dahlia, and a butcher knife 202 00:09:55,528 --> 00:09:57,097 was definitely the weapon that was 203 00:09:57,197 --> 00:10:01,735 used to dismember, decapitate, and bisect 204 00:10:01,835 --> 00:10:04,104 victims in Cleveland. 205 00:10:04,204 --> 00:10:06,239 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Police determined that Elizabeth Short 206 00:10:06,339 --> 00:10:08,909 had been held captive and tortured for several hours 207 00:10:09,009 --> 00:10:10,711 before being killed. 208 00:10:10,811 --> 00:10:14,014 She had wounds on her neck, arms, and legs that indicated 209 00:10:14,114 --> 00:10:16,216 she had been tied with ropes. 210 00:10:16,316 --> 00:10:18,919 Several of the Cleveland victims had exactly the same type 211 00:10:19,019 --> 00:10:21,822 of marks, suggesting that they had been tortured 212 00:10:21,922 --> 00:10:24,424 in exactly the same manner. 213 00:10:24,524 --> 00:10:27,094 Also, the Dahlia's body had been arranged in a sexually 214 00:10:27,194 --> 00:10:29,096 suggestive position. 215 00:10:29,196 --> 00:10:31,799 The same is true of some of the Torso Slayer's victims. 216 00:10:34,735 --> 00:10:37,504 However, there was one significant difference. 217 00:10:37,604 --> 00:10:39,840 The Dahlia, unlike most of the Torso 218 00:10:39,940 --> 00:10:43,176 Slayer's victims was not decapitated. 219 00:10:43,276 --> 00:10:45,045 LAWRENCE SCHERB (VOICEOVER): The torso killer 220 00:10:45,145 --> 00:10:49,049 killed other victims in other places in the '40s. 221 00:10:49,149 --> 00:10:53,020 And he did not capture some of those victims either. 222 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,856 So it is not necessarily true that the mere fact 223 00:10:55,956 --> 00:11:00,360 of decapitation sets all the victims of the torso killer 224 00:11:00,460 --> 00:11:01,628 apart. 225 00:11:01,729 --> 00:11:04,264 And then if he didn't decapitate the Dahlia that means 226 00:11:04,364 --> 00:11:06,967 she could not possibly have been killed by the same man. 227 00:11:07,067 --> 00:11:10,804 All he did was simply change his MO in a rather small way. 228 00:11:13,106 --> 00:11:14,341 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Many people 229 00:11:14,441 --> 00:11:18,145 believe that Eliot Ness actually knew the slayer's identity 230 00:11:18,245 --> 00:11:21,715 but never had enough evidence to prove it in court. 231 00:11:21,815 --> 00:11:26,153 In 1947, Eliot Ness retired from public life. 232 00:11:26,253 --> 00:11:28,688 He later told his biographer, Oscar Fraley, 233 00:11:28,789 --> 00:11:31,558 that after he developed a profile of a killer, 234 00:11:31,658 --> 00:11:33,060 he had been approached by a member 235 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,929 of Cleveland's high society. 236 00:11:36,029 --> 00:11:40,333 This lady, a socialite who was working with him, came to him 237 00:11:40,433 --> 00:11:44,104 and said a member of one of our influential families 238 00:11:44,204 --> 00:11:46,073 fits your profile. 239 00:11:46,173 --> 00:11:48,876 So Elliot said, that's fine. 240 00:11:48,976 --> 00:11:49,943 Let's meet him. 241 00:11:59,119 --> 00:11:59,920 Hello. 242 00:12:00,020 --> 00:12:01,154 Thanks for coming. 243 00:12:01,254 --> 00:12:02,956 You're welcome. 244 00:12:03,056 --> 00:12:04,858 May I ask what this is regarding. 245 00:12:04,958 --> 00:12:07,560 Your officer would not tell me. 246 00:12:07,660 --> 00:12:10,230 Brian, would bring the gentleman a seat, please? 247 00:12:10,330 --> 00:12:11,932 OSCAR FRALEY (VOICEOVER): This man admitted that he 248 00:12:12,032 --> 00:12:14,701 had been to medical school. 249 00:12:14,802 --> 00:12:18,138 So Eliot thought surely he had the guy. 250 00:12:18,238 --> 00:12:21,875 Have you ever been to Kingsbury Run after sunset? 251 00:12:21,975 --> 00:12:23,010 No. 252 00:12:23,110 --> 00:12:24,244 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Eliot said he gave 253 00:12:24,344 --> 00:12:25,846 the man two lie detector tests. 254 00:12:25,946 --> 00:12:29,182 Both times the suspect failed. 255 00:12:29,282 --> 00:12:32,119 Do you live in Cleveland? 256 00:12:32,219 --> 00:12:34,154 Yes. 257 00:12:34,254 --> 00:12:37,825 Ness then directly confronted the suspect and said to him, 258 00:12:37,925 --> 00:12:39,960 I think you are the killer. 259 00:12:40,060 --> 00:12:42,930 And the suspect said, well, think it? 260 00:12:43,030 --> 00:12:44,597 You have to prove it. 261 00:12:44,697 --> 00:12:48,301 Have you ever paid for the services of a prostitute? 262 00:12:48,401 --> 00:12:49,702 No. 263 00:12:49,803 --> 00:12:51,304 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Soon after he took the lie detector 264 00:12:51,404 --> 00:12:53,540 test, the suspect voluntarily committed 265 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,542 himself to a hospital. 266 00:12:55,642 --> 00:12:57,210 Lawrence Scherb believes this act 267 00:12:57,310 --> 00:13:00,480 was part of a complex deal the killer made to keep his family 268 00:13:00,580 --> 00:13:02,749 name out of the newspapers. 269 00:13:02,850 --> 00:13:05,652 Around the time, the Torso Slayings in Cleveland 270 00:13:05,752 --> 00:13:07,821 abruptly stopped. 271 00:13:07,921 --> 00:13:10,824 Ness believed that this would be the end of the case 272 00:13:10,924 --> 00:13:14,294 because the suspect was so deranged that he would 273 00:13:14,394 --> 00:13:16,729 probably remain in a mental institution 274 00:13:16,830 --> 00:13:19,699 for the rest of his life. 275 00:13:19,799 --> 00:13:21,668 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): But if the slayer was locked away 276 00:13:21,768 --> 00:13:24,004 in an Ohio hospital, how could the murders 277 00:13:24,104 --> 00:13:26,473 have continued in other parts of the Midwest 278 00:13:26,573 --> 00:13:28,675 and later Los Angeles? 279 00:13:28,775 --> 00:13:31,611 Perhaps one crucial point was overlooked when the killer 280 00:13:31,711 --> 00:13:32,512 entered the hospital. 281 00:13:38,418 --> 00:13:40,087 How are you? 282 00:13:40,187 --> 00:13:40,988 I'm well. 283 00:13:41,088 --> 00:13:42,622 Sorry, I was late, Sweetheart. 284 00:13:42,722 --> 00:13:44,424 But we can leave now. 285 00:13:44,524 --> 00:13:46,994 Come along. 286 00:13:47,094 --> 00:13:49,329 LAWRENCE SCHERB (VOICEOVER): If one is voluntarily 287 00:13:49,429 --> 00:13:52,032 in a mental hospital, you are free to legally 288 00:13:52,132 --> 00:13:54,701 walk out any time you want. 289 00:13:54,801 --> 00:13:57,404 And I think that's exactly what he did. 290 00:13:57,504 --> 00:13:58,872 I think he used the mental health 291 00:13:58,972 --> 00:14:01,074 system most of his career. 292 00:14:01,174 --> 00:14:03,944 When things got tough or investigations heated up, 293 00:14:04,044 --> 00:14:06,846 he simply checked himself into a mental institution, 294 00:14:06,947 --> 00:14:08,848 waited until they cooled down, and then 295 00:14:08,949 --> 00:14:11,518 checked himself out again and departed and continued killing. 296 00:14:14,621 --> 00:14:15,722 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Eliot Ness 297 00:14:15,822 --> 00:14:18,125 never publicly identified the suspect 298 00:14:18,225 --> 00:14:21,394 and took the name with him to the grave. 299 00:14:21,494 --> 00:14:22,896 LAWRENCE SCHERB (VOICEOVER): It bothered Ness 300 00:14:22,996 --> 00:14:25,698 a great deal that the mad butcher 301 00:14:25,798 --> 00:14:29,169 was able to escape punishment. 302 00:14:29,269 --> 00:14:33,473 Elizabeth Short was simply one of a number of victims who were 303 00:14:33,573 --> 00:14:36,009 slammed by the same killer. 304 00:14:36,109 --> 00:14:39,246 He was the most prolific mass murderer in the history 305 00:14:39,346 --> 00:14:41,214 of the United States. 306 00:14:41,314 --> 00:14:44,584 And to this day, his true identity remains unknown. 307 00:14:52,092 --> 00:14:53,826 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Next, a poignant story 308 00:14:53,927 --> 00:14:56,396 of a woman looking for her three younger siblings 309 00:14:56,496 --> 00:14:58,298 she hasn't seen in years. 310 00:14:58,398 --> 00:15:01,734 [music playing] 311 00:15:10,210 --> 00:15:12,712 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): On a September afternoon in 1961 312 00:15:12,812 --> 00:15:15,148 outside Lawrenceville, Pennsylvania, 313 00:15:15,248 --> 00:15:17,117 a woman named Betty Nickerson made 314 00:15:17,217 --> 00:15:19,086 a decision that would forever alter 315 00:15:19,186 --> 00:15:21,354 the lives of her six children. 316 00:15:21,454 --> 00:15:23,356 Just leave that stuff right there. 317 00:15:23,456 --> 00:15:25,225 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Betty, who was twice divorced, 318 00:15:25,325 --> 00:15:27,594 had moved the children to a remote farmhouse, 319 00:15:27,694 --> 00:15:31,464 leaving her teenage daughter, Brenda Merrill, in charge. 320 00:15:31,564 --> 00:15:33,333 I'm going to ride into town with the movers. 321 00:15:33,433 --> 00:15:35,568 So you have to take care of your brothers and sisters. 322 00:15:35,668 --> 00:15:37,204 Well, aren't you coming back up here tonight? 323 00:15:37,304 --> 00:15:38,571 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Betty, herself, 324 00:15:38,671 --> 00:15:40,173 planned to live in town where she 325 00:15:40,273 --> 00:15:42,109 had just bought her restaurant. 326 00:15:42,209 --> 00:15:44,377 But, Mama, I can't take care of the kids all by myself. 327 00:15:44,477 --> 00:15:46,846 Brenda, we've already discussed this. 328 00:15:46,946 --> 00:15:48,381 I'm not going to argue. 329 00:15:48,481 --> 00:15:50,350 You go fix those children some dinner. 330 00:15:54,287 --> 00:15:56,123 BRENDA MERRILL (VOICEOVER): She said either the kids would 331 00:15:56,223 --> 00:15:59,259 have to go to a home, or I could quit 332 00:15:59,359 --> 00:16:02,295 school and take care of them. 333 00:16:02,395 --> 00:16:04,998 And I couldn't see the kids going then, you know, 334 00:16:05,098 --> 00:16:08,401 so I said I would quit school. 335 00:16:12,872 --> 00:16:16,876 I never thought my mother would do things like that. 336 00:16:16,976 --> 00:16:20,013 She was a deep hurt, you know. 337 00:16:20,113 --> 00:16:21,514 Like what did I do to deserve this? 338 00:16:24,951 --> 00:16:27,554 That day was the beginning of a frustrating, difficult year 339 00:16:27,654 --> 00:16:30,390 for 16-year-old Brenda Merrill. 340 00:16:30,490 --> 00:16:32,292 Still a child herself, Brenda was 341 00:16:32,392 --> 00:16:34,827 forced to take on the burden of parenthood virtually 342 00:16:34,927 --> 00:16:38,198 alone, to experience many of the traumas of raising 343 00:16:38,298 --> 00:16:41,268 young children, but also to experience some of the precious 344 00:16:41,368 --> 00:16:42,169 joys. 345 00:16:47,407 --> 00:16:49,309 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Brenda took over her mother's role 346 00:16:49,409 --> 00:16:52,812 completely with all five of her siblings, Glenda, 347 00:16:52,912 --> 00:16:56,749 Keith, Butch, Linda, and Eric. 348 00:16:56,849 --> 00:16:58,385 That looks really pretty. 349 00:16:58,485 --> 00:16:59,652 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The children 350 00:16:59,752 --> 00:17:02,189 ranged in age from two to nine. 351 00:17:02,289 --> 00:17:04,757 The oldest boy, Butch, was death. 352 00:17:04,857 --> 00:17:07,194 And none of them except Brenda had ever been to school. 353 00:17:10,063 --> 00:17:11,631 God is great. 354 00:17:11,731 --> 00:17:13,666 God is good. 355 00:17:13,766 --> 00:17:16,136 Let us thank him for our food. 356 00:17:16,236 --> 00:17:18,438 Amen. 357 00:17:18,538 --> 00:17:20,039 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The children's mother, 358 00:17:20,140 --> 00:17:22,309 Betty, never once visited the farmhouse, 359 00:17:22,409 --> 00:17:26,146 even though her business was thriving. 360 00:17:26,246 --> 00:17:28,148 Occasionally, Brenda's boyfriend brought up 361 00:17:28,248 --> 00:17:31,351 food from Betty's restaurant. 362 00:17:31,451 --> 00:17:33,886 Brenda supplemented their meals with vegetables 363 00:17:33,986 --> 00:17:35,688 from the garden. 364 00:17:35,788 --> 00:17:38,258 BRENDA MERRILL (VOICEOVER): It was just like a normal family, 365 00:17:38,358 --> 00:17:40,260 because I was like their mother, you know. 366 00:17:40,360 --> 00:17:42,662 You just went and you washed clothes. 367 00:17:42,762 --> 00:17:44,030 You did the dishes. 368 00:17:44,131 --> 00:17:45,798 You got their dinner and you got them breakfast and you got 369 00:17:45,898 --> 00:17:49,001 their supper and you get them scrubbed up for bed, you know, 370 00:17:49,102 --> 00:17:52,071 and sing them songs before they go to sleep. 371 00:17:52,172 --> 00:17:55,442 You know, like a normal household. 372 00:18:00,213 --> 00:18:01,781 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): As cold weather came on, 373 00:18:01,881 --> 00:18:06,253 Brenda was forced to have small game to feed the children. 374 00:18:06,353 --> 00:18:10,690 Memories of her old life began to haunt her. 375 00:18:10,790 --> 00:18:12,459 BRENDA MERRILL (VOICEOVER): There was times you think 376 00:18:12,559 --> 00:18:13,893 why can't I go out dancing? 377 00:18:13,993 --> 00:18:16,796 Or why can't I go out bowling, you know? 378 00:18:16,896 --> 00:18:19,866 Or why can't I just go with the kids and have a good time? 379 00:18:19,966 --> 00:18:22,202 But you know, after you leave school and you quit, 380 00:18:22,302 --> 00:18:23,536 you have no friends no more. 381 00:18:23,636 --> 00:18:26,273 So I didn't have no friends after that, 382 00:18:26,373 --> 00:18:29,509 because there was nobody up there to be friends with. 383 00:18:29,609 --> 00:18:31,944 So the kids who were my friends. 384 00:18:32,044 --> 00:18:33,946 You know, they were my life. 385 00:18:40,587 --> 00:18:42,121 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Brenda and the children 386 00:18:42,222 --> 00:18:43,856 made it through the winter. 387 00:18:43,956 --> 00:18:48,461 And just as a damp chilly spring arrived, their fuel ran out. 388 00:18:48,561 --> 00:18:51,431 In desperation, Brenda chopped the children's rubber 389 00:18:51,531 --> 00:18:54,467 tires swing into pieces and fed the pieces 390 00:18:54,567 --> 00:18:57,204 into the old wood stove. 391 00:18:57,304 --> 00:18:59,206 BRENDA MERRILL (VOICEOVER): I don't know where or how I even 392 00:18:59,306 --> 00:19:03,009 got it or who told me that if you put tires in with your wood 393 00:19:03,109 --> 00:19:04,211 it'll burn good, you know. 394 00:19:04,311 --> 00:19:05,612 You get good heat. 395 00:19:05,712 --> 00:19:06,713 So that's what I did. 396 00:19:06,813 --> 00:19:09,749 And boy, did I get good heat. 397 00:19:09,849 --> 00:19:11,117 Brenda, there's something burning. 398 00:19:13,753 --> 00:19:15,588 BRENDA MERRILL (VOICEOVER): I thought, oh, my word, 399 00:19:15,688 --> 00:19:16,756 get the kids out. 400 00:19:16,856 --> 00:19:18,458 That's all I can think of is get the kids out 401 00:19:18,558 --> 00:19:19,326 or it's going to blow. 402 00:19:22,862 --> 00:19:24,564 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The second floor of the farm 403 00:19:24,664 --> 00:19:26,966 house was completely destroyed. 404 00:19:27,066 --> 00:19:29,236 But for Brenda, it was a blessing in disguise. 405 00:19:33,406 --> 00:19:34,674 BRENDA MERRILL (VOICEOVER): I really 406 00:19:34,774 --> 00:19:37,009 felt relieved that I would never have to go back there again. 407 00:19:40,380 --> 00:19:47,787 It was a great relief from my chest, you know. 408 00:19:47,887 --> 00:19:50,823 Mom will have to take some responsibilities for these kids 409 00:19:50,923 --> 00:19:52,259 when I get them off the hill, you know. 410 00:19:54,827 --> 00:19:56,162 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Reluctantly Betty 411 00:19:56,263 --> 00:19:57,897 took her children in. 412 00:19:57,997 --> 00:19:59,999 The man Betty lived with assumed that the three 413 00:20:00,099 --> 00:20:02,835 youngest were Brenda's. 414 00:20:02,935 --> 00:20:05,772 A few weeks later, Brenda married her boyfriend. 415 00:20:05,872 --> 00:20:08,675 They moved to Corning, New York, 28 miles away 416 00:20:08,775 --> 00:20:11,378 and took Eric with them. 417 00:20:11,478 --> 00:20:15,248 Betty immediately began to farm the other children out. 418 00:20:15,348 --> 00:20:19,085 Linda went to live with a family across the street. 419 00:20:19,185 --> 00:20:22,589 Butch was enrolled in a state school for the deaf. 420 00:20:22,689 --> 00:20:25,492 Glenda and Keith were kept together and sent to live with 421 00:20:25,592 --> 00:20:26,726 an acquaintance of Betty's. 422 00:20:33,900 --> 00:20:35,968 A week later, Brenda and her new husband 423 00:20:36,068 --> 00:20:37,870 took Eric to visit Glenda and Keith. 424 00:20:41,207 --> 00:20:45,077 Brenda was horrified by the children's living conditions. 425 00:20:45,177 --> 00:20:46,479 BRENDA MERRILL (VOICEOVER): It was 426 00:20:46,579 --> 00:20:50,049 just a blanket on the floor with the kids laying on the floor. 427 00:20:50,149 --> 00:20:53,085 And there was cockroaches crawling over them. 428 00:20:53,185 --> 00:20:54,421 I got furious. 429 00:20:54,521 --> 00:20:55,755 Glenda, Keith, get up. 430 00:20:55,855 --> 00:20:56,989 I'm getting you out of here. 431 00:20:57,089 --> 00:20:58,391 What do you think you're doing? 432 00:20:58,491 --> 00:20:59,926 I'm taking the kids. 433 00:21:00,026 --> 00:21:00,893 Like hell you are. 434 00:21:00,993 --> 00:21:02,295 I'm calling the cops. 435 00:21:02,395 --> 00:21:03,863 BRENDA MERRILL (VOICEOVER): So I said that's just what I want 436 00:21:03,963 --> 00:21:05,765 you to do, call the cops, because I know they want 437 00:21:05,865 --> 00:21:08,167 these kids laying in this mess. 438 00:21:08,267 --> 00:21:09,369 Go on, take them. 439 00:21:09,469 --> 00:21:10,269 Get out of here. 440 00:21:10,370 --> 00:21:12,939 I Don't want no trouble. 441 00:21:13,039 --> 00:21:15,308 BRENDA MERRILL (VOICEOVER): So that's what I did. 442 00:21:15,408 --> 00:21:16,275 I took the kids. 443 00:21:19,011 --> 00:21:20,146 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Brenda went 444 00:21:20,246 --> 00:21:21,681 straight to her mother's house. 445 00:21:24,384 --> 00:21:25,318 What do you want? 446 00:21:25,418 --> 00:21:28,388 What are Glenda and Keith doing here? 447 00:21:28,488 --> 00:21:30,923 I just took them out of that pigsty where you left them. 448 00:21:31,023 --> 00:21:32,859 It's time to start taking care of him. 449 00:21:32,959 --> 00:21:35,027 Brenda, take those kids right back there now. 450 00:21:35,127 --> 00:21:36,128 I will not. 451 00:21:36,228 --> 00:21:38,798 I wouldn't keep a dog in that place. 452 00:21:38,898 --> 00:21:40,833 I can't do anything about that right now. 453 00:21:40,933 --> 00:21:42,101 Right now? 454 00:21:42,201 --> 00:21:43,202 You never took care of them. 455 00:21:43,302 --> 00:21:45,338 You've always been too busy catting around 456 00:21:45,438 --> 00:21:46,473 to take care of them. 457 00:21:46,573 --> 00:21:48,107 Brenda, don't talk to your mother like that. 458 00:21:48,207 --> 00:21:49,809 Why don't you mind your own business. 459 00:21:49,909 --> 00:21:51,911 BRENDA MERRILL (VOICEOVER): Her boyfriend brought back his hand 460 00:21:52,011 --> 00:21:54,947 and was going to hit me for calling my mother names. 461 00:21:55,047 --> 00:21:58,485 And I said you better start and listen before you strike, 462 00:21:58,585 --> 00:22:00,052 because these are my mother's kids. 463 00:22:00,152 --> 00:22:02,321 These are not my kids. 464 00:22:02,422 --> 00:22:04,491 These are Betty's kids? Betty, is that true? 465 00:22:08,728 --> 00:22:11,163 Look, I'm taking the kids with me tonight, 466 00:22:11,263 --> 00:22:13,566 but you better tell Mama to do something about them tomorrow. 467 00:22:15,835 --> 00:22:17,570 BRENDA MERRILL (VOICEOVER): I hated my mother for that. 468 00:22:17,670 --> 00:22:21,207 I hated her bad right then. 469 00:22:21,307 --> 00:22:24,343 I really felt like I'd like to hurt her, you know. 470 00:22:24,444 --> 00:22:27,447 I really wanted to hurt her because I felt she took 471 00:22:27,547 --> 00:22:29,015 a lot of my young life away. 472 00:22:32,619 --> 00:22:35,488 You two are going to mind the nice lady, aren't you? 473 00:22:35,588 --> 00:22:37,156 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Betty notified the child 474 00:22:37,256 --> 00:22:39,258 welfare department and had Glenda and Keith 475 00:22:39,358 --> 00:22:40,693 placed in foster care. 476 00:22:43,796 --> 00:22:45,832 Brenda thought it was only a temporary measure, 477 00:22:45,932 --> 00:22:48,334 but Glenda and Keith never came back. 478 00:23:02,314 --> 00:23:04,984 The following week, Brenda was forced to turn Eric 479 00:23:05,084 --> 00:23:08,655 over to foster parents as well. 480 00:23:08,755 --> 00:23:11,057 BRENDA MERRILL (VOICEOVER): I said nobody's taking her. 481 00:23:11,157 --> 00:23:12,258 And she said, yes, they are. 482 00:23:12,358 --> 00:23:13,359 They'll have legal papers. 483 00:23:13,460 --> 00:23:14,260 They'll show you. 484 00:23:17,029 --> 00:23:18,531 You take good care of him, OK? 485 00:23:18,631 --> 00:23:19,432 Don't worry, honey. 486 00:23:19,532 --> 00:23:22,435 We'll take good care of him. 487 00:23:22,535 --> 00:23:23,703 I'll give you this too. 488 00:23:23,803 --> 00:23:25,104 BRENDA MERRILL (VOICEOVER): I just 489 00:23:25,204 --> 00:23:28,708 had that feeling, you know, a mother's instinct, let's say, 490 00:23:28,808 --> 00:23:30,543 that you're not going to see your child again. 491 00:23:34,346 --> 00:23:35,281 And I never did. 492 00:23:38,785 --> 00:23:39,852 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Two years 493 00:23:39,952 --> 00:23:42,288 later, the house was torn down. 494 00:23:42,388 --> 00:23:45,357 Eric and his foster family disappeared. 495 00:23:48,928 --> 00:23:50,730 That's right. 496 00:23:50,830 --> 00:23:52,532 I was about 16. 497 00:23:52,632 --> 00:23:54,366 30 years have past. 498 00:23:54,467 --> 00:23:56,368 Brenda has been reunited with her sister 499 00:23:56,469 --> 00:23:59,739 Linda and her brother Butch. 500 00:23:59,839 --> 00:24:02,675 Their mother Betty is now 78 and in a nursing home. 501 00:24:05,978 --> 00:24:08,314 For Brenda, Butch, and Linda, the search 502 00:24:08,414 --> 00:24:11,484 for the younger siblings has deep and varied meaning. 503 00:24:14,253 --> 00:24:17,624 LINDA ERSKIN: It's hard to explain missing somebody 504 00:24:17,724 --> 00:24:21,828 and not being able to see them. 505 00:24:21,928 --> 00:24:24,130 It takes-- when you love somebody and you lose them, 506 00:24:24,230 --> 00:24:26,599 it's like losing your whole life. 507 00:24:26,699 --> 00:24:28,768 You have nothing more to go. 508 00:24:28,868 --> 00:24:30,903 You have no place to go without them. 509 00:24:34,674 --> 00:24:35,842 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Butch Erskin 510 00:24:35,942 --> 00:24:38,545 also has a message for his lost sister and brothers. 511 00:24:42,181 --> 00:24:47,186 INTERPRETER: I love you and I miss you. 512 00:24:47,286 --> 00:24:50,156 I do. 513 00:24:50,256 --> 00:24:51,691 I do. 514 00:24:51,791 --> 00:24:54,594 [music playing] 515 00:24:57,897 --> 00:24:59,832 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Brenda hopes that when Eric, Glenda 516 00:24:59,932 --> 00:25:02,034 and Keith are found she can finally 517 00:25:02,134 --> 00:25:05,071 make peace with her mother. 518 00:25:05,171 --> 00:25:07,339 BRENDA MERRILL (VOICEOVER): I feel if they can forgive her, 519 00:25:07,439 --> 00:25:09,375 then I can forgive her. 520 00:25:09,475 --> 00:25:12,078 You know, because I'm still here, and they're gone, 521 00:25:12,178 --> 00:25:13,279 you know. 522 00:25:13,379 --> 00:25:17,684 And I feel if they can forgive her, I can do too. 523 00:25:17,784 --> 00:25:19,218 On the evening of our broadcast, 524 00:25:19,318 --> 00:25:21,353 Brenda Merrill's single minded determination 525 00:25:21,453 --> 00:25:23,022 to bring her family back together 526 00:25:23,122 --> 00:25:25,257 finally began to pay off. 527 00:25:25,357 --> 00:25:27,393 An hour after Brenda's story aired, 528 00:25:27,493 --> 00:25:29,729 a man named Keith Robinson of Hornell, New York, 529 00:25:29,829 --> 00:25:32,565 contacted our telecenter and said that he 530 00:25:32,665 --> 00:25:35,501 was Brenda's long lost brother. 531 00:25:35,602 --> 00:25:38,504 Brenda called me that same night, like five minutes later. 532 00:25:38,605 --> 00:25:40,907 And we was talking and I mentioned 533 00:25:41,007 --> 00:25:44,977 about having a photograph that she had aired on the program. 534 00:25:45,077 --> 00:25:47,880 And basically I told her detail for detail 535 00:25:47,980 --> 00:25:52,518 what was in the photo so she knew that I was her brother. 536 00:25:52,619 --> 00:25:54,654 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): On December 19, 1982, 537 00:25:54,754 --> 00:25:57,990 just in time for Christmas, Keith Robinson and his wife 538 00:25:58,090 --> 00:26:00,459 and children traveled to Montour Falls, New York, 539 00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:02,595 for an emotional reunion with his sisters 540 00:26:02,695 --> 00:26:05,698 Brendan and Linda and his brother Butch. 541 00:26:05,798 --> 00:26:10,236 He had not seen them in more than 30 years. 542 00:26:10,336 --> 00:26:12,038 KEITH: I thought a lot about what 543 00:26:12,138 --> 00:26:13,372 they were going to be like. 544 00:26:13,472 --> 00:26:15,007 You know, if they were going to love me for just being 545 00:26:15,107 --> 00:26:19,111 a brother or love me for what I am now today if they were going 546 00:26:19,211 --> 00:26:22,381 to accept my family and their hurt, because, you know, 547 00:26:22,481 --> 00:26:25,084 it's over a 30 year period of waiting and looking. 548 00:26:28,087 --> 00:26:30,456 BRENDA MERRILL (VOICEOVER): This is a great Christmas present, 549 00:26:30,556 --> 00:26:31,958 you don't know. 550 00:26:32,058 --> 00:26:34,627 He is the greatest Christmas present, especially his wife 551 00:26:34,727 --> 00:26:35,962 and kids too. 552 00:26:36,062 --> 00:26:37,630 He has the nicest wife and kids. 553 00:26:40,099 --> 00:26:41,600 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): For everyone involved, 554 00:26:41,701 --> 00:26:43,903 the reunion was bittersweet. 555 00:26:44,003 --> 00:26:45,537 Their joy tempered by the knowledge 556 00:26:45,638 --> 00:26:49,275 that one brother was still missing. 557 00:26:49,375 --> 00:26:51,210 Eric Nickerson was still a toddler when 558 00:26:51,310 --> 00:26:53,512 his family was split apart. 559 00:26:53,612 --> 00:26:59,118 Just five weeks after we filmed this update, he too was found. 560 00:26:59,218 --> 00:27:00,920 Eric's name is now Richard Moore. 561 00:27:01,020 --> 00:27:05,557 And he lives in Tulsa, Oklahoma, with his wife and two children. 562 00:27:05,658 --> 00:27:08,460 In February of 1993, he was reunited 563 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,496 with his sisters Brenda and Linda, 564 00:27:10,596 --> 00:27:13,900 after more than 30 years of separation. 565 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,502 Brenda Miller's long search to find all her brothers 566 00:27:16,602 --> 00:27:18,337 and sisters was finally over. 567 00:27:22,208 --> 00:27:25,978 When we return, a ghostly tale of the wild west. 568 00:27:26,078 --> 00:27:29,448 [music playing] 569 00:27:35,521 --> 00:27:38,090 Some ghost stories, no matter how unbelievable, 570 00:27:38,190 --> 00:27:41,060 are just too good to pass up. 571 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,230 We next have the unusual tale of a legendary lawman, 572 00:27:44,330 --> 00:27:47,399 a psychic in England, and a small town in South Dakota, 573 00:27:47,499 --> 00:27:50,269 where fact, fantasy, and history have come together 574 00:27:50,369 --> 00:27:52,705 to tease the imagination. 575 00:27:52,805 --> 00:27:55,007 It all began more than a century ago. 576 00:27:57,844 --> 00:27:59,411 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): In the late 1870s, 577 00:27:59,511 --> 00:28:01,881 South Dakota was booming with gold fever, 578 00:28:01,981 --> 00:28:05,217 attracting outlaws, gamblers, and swindlers. 579 00:28:05,317 --> 00:28:07,686 Mining towns dotted the landscape. 580 00:28:07,787 --> 00:28:11,991 And perhaps the most infamous was Deadwood. 581 00:28:12,091 --> 00:28:13,893 It was here that Wild Bill Hitchcock who 582 00:28:13,993 --> 00:28:16,963 shot to death and Calamity Jane practice her trade 583 00:28:17,063 --> 00:28:19,932 in a house of ill repute. 584 00:28:20,032 --> 00:28:22,368 RENA WEBB (VOICEOVER): It was a wild and woolly town. 585 00:28:22,468 --> 00:28:27,606 The miners just absolutely were raising hell in this town. 586 00:28:27,706 --> 00:28:33,179 Most towns are 95% solid citizens and 5% characters. 587 00:28:33,279 --> 00:28:35,047 In Deadwood, the reverse is true. 588 00:28:37,083 --> 00:28:38,484 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Finally, the summer 589 00:28:38,584 --> 00:28:41,788 of 1876, a call went out for a man who could bring 590 00:28:41,888 --> 00:28:44,056 law and order to the community. 591 00:28:44,156 --> 00:28:45,958 The call was answered by Seth Bullock, 592 00:28:46,058 --> 00:28:49,595 who had come into town from Montana a few months earlier. 593 00:28:49,695 --> 00:28:52,498 He became Deadwood's first sheriff. 594 00:28:52,598 --> 00:28:55,134 RENA WEBB (VOICEOVER): From what I have read, 595 00:28:55,234 --> 00:28:58,805 he didn't have to use a gun actually. 596 00:28:58,905 --> 00:29:05,544 The story is that one look from his very penetrating gaze 597 00:29:05,644 --> 00:29:09,048 was enough to quell most lawbreakers. 598 00:29:09,148 --> 00:29:13,185 Take your hands off me. 599 00:29:13,285 --> 00:29:16,155 All right, boys, what's going on? 600 00:29:21,193 --> 00:29:23,062 I don't need this. 601 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:29,468 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Sheriff Bullock 602 00:29:29,568 --> 00:29:33,439 took his cleanup campaign throughout the territory. 603 00:29:33,539 --> 00:29:36,175 One afternoon in 1887, he encountered 604 00:29:36,275 --> 00:29:41,080 three men, whom he took at first glance to be cattle rustlers. 605 00:29:41,180 --> 00:29:42,448 What the hell's going on here? 606 00:29:42,548 --> 00:29:43,715 What are you boys doing in these parts? 607 00:29:43,816 --> 00:29:45,717 We're looking for a horse thief. 608 00:29:45,818 --> 00:29:47,053 What's your name? 609 00:29:47,153 --> 00:29:49,288 My name's Theodore Roosevelt. I'm the deputy sheriff 610 00:29:49,388 --> 00:29:50,556 of Billings County. 611 00:29:50,656 --> 00:29:52,892 Who are these other fellers you've got with you? 612 00:29:52,992 --> 00:29:54,293 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Seth Bullock 613 00:29:54,393 --> 00:29:58,030 and Theodore Roosevelt went on to become the best of friends. 614 00:29:58,130 --> 00:30:01,533 When Roosevelt formed the Rough Riders, Seth joined up. 615 00:30:01,633 --> 00:30:04,203 Teddy, of course, would later be elected president. 616 00:30:04,303 --> 00:30:10,209 And in 1905, Seth was an honored guest at the inauguration. 617 00:30:10,309 --> 00:30:12,344 But even in Deadwood, not many people 618 00:30:12,444 --> 00:30:15,481 knew that when President Roosevelt died in 1919, 619 00:30:15,581 --> 00:30:17,616 the sheriff arranged to have this memorial, 620 00:30:17,716 --> 00:30:22,188 called the Friendship Tower, erected just outside of town. 621 00:30:22,288 --> 00:30:24,523 Nine months later Seth Bullock himself 622 00:30:24,623 --> 00:30:27,093 passed away and was buried at a grave site 623 00:30:27,193 --> 00:30:28,394 overlooking the monument. 624 00:30:33,532 --> 00:30:36,735 Today Deadwood is once again a boom town thanks to the passage 625 00:30:36,835 --> 00:30:40,006 of the law legalizing low stakes gambling. 626 00:30:40,106 --> 00:30:43,142 The Bullock Hotel founded by Seth in 1895 627 00:30:43,242 --> 00:30:44,776 has been revitalized. 628 00:30:44,877 --> 00:30:47,779 And according to some, the spirit of Seth Bullock 629 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,949 can occasionally be seen be meandering 630 00:30:50,049 --> 00:30:52,985 through the hallways. 631 00:30:53,085 --> 00:30:54,686 MARY SCHMIT: At this point, over 30 632 00:30:54,786 --> 00:30:57,756 employees and a handful of hotel guests 633 00:30:57,856 --> 00:31:01,060 have had experiences here. 634 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,629 To the point where it's commonplace, 635 00:31:03,729 --> 00:31:05,697 to the point where we laugh about it 636 00:31:05,797 --> 00:31:11,137 and just take kind of a lot of fun in the fact 637 00:31:11,237 --> 00:31:15,541 that we feel that we're not alone here. 638 00:31:15,641 --> 00:31:17,409 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Norm Stevens, a slot machine 639 00:31:17,509 --> 00:31:20,146 supervisor at the hotel, says that one morning he 640 00:31:20,246 --> 00:31:22,949 was working in the basement when a mysterious shadow 641 00:31:23,049 --> 00:31:24,716 fell across the wall. 642 00:31:24,816 --> 00:31:27,920 It was a figure of a man, but when Norm turned, 643 00:31:28,020 --> 00:31:28,820 the shadow vanished. 644 00:31:33,225 --> 00:31:36,428 A few weeks later operations manager, Joe George, 645 00:31:36,528 --> 00:31:38,830 had his own ghostly encounter. 646 00:31:38,931 --> 00:31:42,368 He claims that when he walked by the bar after closing time 647 00:31:42,468 --> 00:31:45,371 all of the stools were lined up in a row. 648 00:31:45,471 --> 00:31:47,206 Joey stepped into the office, then 649 00:31:47,306 --> 00:31:51,210 heard unusual noises behind him. 650 00:31:51,310 --> 00:31:54,013 He returned to the bar. 651 00:31:54,113 --> 00:31:58,450 All of the stools had been moved. 652 00:31:58,550 --> 00:32:00,419 But both of these mysterious incidents 653 00:32:00,519 --> 00:32:02,688 paled in comparison with another hotel 654 00:32:02,788 --> 00:32:06,392 workers experience in 1989. 655 00:32:06,492 --> 00:32:09,795 We had a young employee, who was I think about 18 656 00:32:09,895 --> 00:32:14,100 at the time, and he was working in the back, 657 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,867 which is the restaurant now. 658 00:32:15,968 --> 00:32:18,304 And he came flying out of the back room 659 00:32:18,404 --> 00:32:20,906 and he was just ghost white and said 660 00:32:21,007 --> 00:32:25,544 that he saw a figure in Western attire 661 00:32:25,644 --> 00:32:28,247 with jeans tucked into the boots. 662 00:32:28,347 --> 00:32:31,617 And what he had seen scared him because he 663 00:32:31,717 --> 00:32:33,585 felt that it wasn't real. 664 00:32:33,685 --> 00:32:36,388 And he was very, very much afraid 665 00:32:36,488 --> 00:32:38,424 and he would never go back into the kitchen by himself 666 00:32:38,524 --> 00:32:40,226 after that and there after quit. 667 00:32:42,494 --> 00:32:43,795 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The people 668 00:32:43,895 --> 00:32:46,498 of Deadwood always assumed it was the ghost of Seth Bullock 669 00:32:46,598 --> 00:32:48,634 who was haunting the hotel. 670 00:32:48,734 --> 00:32:52,504 Then in April of 1991, apparent confirmation came 671 00:32:52,604 --> 00:32:54,306 from a most unlikely source. 672 00:32:57,176 --> 00:33:00,012 5,000 miles away in Dorset, England, 673 00:33:00,112 --> 00:33:01,647 a man who claimed to be a psychic 674 00:33:01,747 --> 00:33:05,251 said he began receiving messages from beyond the grave. 675 00:33:05,351 --> 00:33:07,819 By pure coincidence, the psychic's name 676 00:33:07,919 --> 00:33:09,888 was Sandy Bullock. 677 00:33:09,988 --> 00:33:12,924 Occasionally various people pop through. 678 00:33:13,025 --> 00:33:15,661 And the name Seth Bullock I thought perhaps 679 00:33:15,761 --> 00:33:18,164 it was an ancestor that was coming through to say hello 680 00:33:18,264 --> 00:33:20,066 or something like that. 681 00:33:20,166 --> 00:33:22,701 And I rather dismissed it. 682 00:33:22,801 --> 00:33:24,570 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): But the spirit of Seth Bullock 683 00:33:24,670 --> 00:33:26,272 did not go away. 684 00:33:26,372 --> 00:33:28,507 Sandy claims that Seth communicated with him 685 00:33:28,607 --> 00:33:31,243 through a Native American guide who issued a warning 686 00:33:31,343 --> 00:33:34,546 to the people of Deadwood, a period of lawlessness 687 00:33:34,646 --> 00:33:36,014 loomed on the horizon. 688 00:33:36,115 --> 00:33:39,551 Will happen in 1993. 689 00:33:39,651 --> 00:33:44,623 It could happen again in Deadwood in 1993. 690 00:33:44,723 --> 00:33:45,891 Beware. 691 00:33:45,991 --> 00:33:47,393 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The psychic warning 692 00:33:47,493 --> 00:33:49,761 seems so urgent, Sandy immediately 693 00:33:49,861 --> 00:33:51,730 wrote an open letter to the proprietors 694 00:33:51,830 --> 00:33:53,865 of the Bullock Hotel. 695 00:33:53,965 --> 00:33:57,503 SANDY BULLOCK: I thought if I write to someone in this place 696 00:33:57,603 --> 00:33:59,838 called Deadwood, they would just think I'm a nutty 697 00:33:59,938 --> 00:34:01,207 old Englishman and forget it. 698 00:34:01,307 --> 00:34:04,443 Throw it away. 699 00:34:04,543 --> 00:34:06,512 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): A few weeks later, Sandy's letter 700 00:34:06,612 --> 00:34:09,014 arrived at the Bullock Hotel, which at the time 701 00:34:09,115 --> 00:34:12,151 was undergoing extensive renovations. 702 00:34:12,251 --> 00:34:13,485 MARY SCHMIT: All information at the time 703 00:34:13,585 --> 00:34:14,986 as I read it, I thought to myself, well, 704 00:34:15,087 --> 00:34:17,956 he found a book some place on Deadwood, 705 00:34:18,056 --> 00:34:20,192 read it, and wrote to me. 706 00:34:20,292 --> 00:34:22,894 But at the very bottom of the letter, 707 00:34:22,994 --> 00:34:25,597 it mentioned that Seth says he can't 708 00:34:25,697 --> 00:34:28,167 haunt the hotel right now because of all 709 00:34:28,267 --> 00:34:29,968 the banging that's going on. 710 00:34:30,068 --> 00:34:34,406 And I thought to myself, well, it's driving me crazy too. 711 00:34:34,506 --> 00:34:36,742 But he also said that he'll be back 712 00:34:36,842 --> 00:34:40,646 and you'll know it's "Old Seth," quote, unquote. 713 00:34:40,746 --> 00:34:44,216 And that is when again the hair stood up on the back of my neck 714 00:34:44,316 --> 00:34:47,953 because that was my aunt's pet name for Seth. 715 00:34:48,053 --> 00:34:51,790 Anytime something strange would happen, Gerri would say, 716 00:34:51,890 --> 00:34:53,725 Old Seth is up to his tricks again. 717 00:34:56,061 --> 00:34:57,363 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Local journalist 718 00:34:57,463 --> 00:34:59,698 Rena Webb was intrigued and decided 719 00:34:59,798 --> 00:35:02,534 to write back to Sandy Bullock. 720 00:35:02,634 --> 00:35:07,105 And in this letter, I said to him, I am categorized, 721 00:35:07,206 --> 00:35:11,177 I suppose, neither as a believer or a nonbeliever. 722 00:35:11,277 --> 00:35:14,646 I will treat your story with the utmost respect. 723 00:35:14,746 --> 00:35:16,815 However, I have a lot of readers who will be totally 724 00:35:16,915 --> 00:35:19,485 skeptical about your story. 725 00:35:19,585 --> 00:35:21,953 Because of this skepticism, I would like 726 00:35:22,053 --> 00:35:24,190 to pose to you a test question. 727 00:35:27,459 --> 00:35:29,628 RENA WEBB (VOICEOVER): Who was the well known person who was 728 00:35:29,728 --> 00:35:33,165 a close friend of Seth Bullock? 729 00:35:33,265 --> 00:35:36,868 And how is Bullock's grave positioned 730 00:35:36,968 --> 00:35:41,207 in relation to that friendship? 731 00:35:41,307 --> 00:35:45,477 When I got his letter in response to my test question, 732 00:35:45,577 --> 00:35:52,718 he said, tall trees block the view from his old bones, 733 00:35:52,818 --> 00:35:56,388 but Teddy and he still meet in the afterlife. 734 00:35:56,488 --> 00:35:58,690 And I said, whoa. 735 00:35:58,790 --> 00:36:00,859 And I still get goose pimples when I think about. 736 00:36:03,629 --> 00:36:05,531 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Rena believes the message referred 737 00:36:05,631 --> 00:36:08,033 to a stand of pine trees which now obstructs 738 00:36:08,133 --> 00:36:10,168 the view of Theodore Roosevelt's monument 739 00:36:10,269 --> 00:36:13,805 from Seth Bullock's grave site. 740 00:36:13,905 --> 00:36:16,174 It was a story that was not well known. 741 00:36:16,275 --> 00:36:19,110 And there was no way Sandy Bullock 742 00:36:19,211 --> 00:36:22,714 sitting in Dorset, England, could have researched this. 743 00:36:22,814 --> 00:36:24,149 I mean, it's just not possible. 744 00:36:27,185 --> 00:36:29,187 RENA WEBB (VOICEOVER): There's just too much evidence 745 00:36:29,288 --> 00:36:32,157 of Seth's presence in this town and particularly 746 00:36:32,258 --> 00:36:35,927 at the Bullock Hotel to discount it. 747 00:36:36,027 --> 00:36:39,398 Perhaps other people might feel differently. 748 00:36:39,498 --> 00:36:43,735 All I know is the evidence seems to point very strongly 749 00:36:43,835 --> 00:36:48,307 in the direction of Sheriff Seth Bullock 750 00:36:48,407 --> 00:36:51,477 still being on the job in Deadwood, South Dakota, today. 751 00:36:56,315 --> 00:36:58,450 Now about Seth Bullock's dire prediction, 752 00:36:58,550 --> 00:37:01,119 we just have to wait and see. 753 00:37:01,219 --> 00:37:04,756 Curiously, in 1993, there are plans to raise gambling stakes 754 00:37:04,856 --> 00:37:07,225 from their present $5 limit. 755 00:37:07,326 --> 00:37:09,628 Some fear this will introduce a new criminal element 756 00:37:09,728 --> 00:37:11,062 in Deadwood. 757 00:37:11,162 --> 00:37:14,733 Perhaps that is what prompted Old Seth's urgent warnings. 758 00:37:14,833 --> 00:37:18,203 [music playing] 759 00:37:27,178 --> 00:37:29,781 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Friday, March 1, 1991, 760 00:37:29,881 --> 00:37:31,583 for most of the patrons at a biker 761 00:37:31,683 --> 00:37:34,386 bar in central New Jersey, it seemed like the start 762 00:37:34,486 --> 00:37:37,055 of an ordinary weekend. 763 00:37:37,155 --> 00:37:38,557 Who's that? 764 00:37:38,657 --> 00:37:40,459 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): However, Gloria Brown, a friend 765 00:37:40,559 --> 00:37:41,993 of the owner's, would soon become 766 00:37:42,093 --> 00:37:45,564 a key witness in a bizarre missing persons case. 767 00:37:45,664 --> 00:37:47,566 She was helping out behind the bar 768 00:37:47,666 --> 00:37:53,305 when a young woman, a stranger, drifted in at about 3:45 PM. 769 00:37:53,405 --> 00:37:55,240 Can I get you something, honey? 770 00:37:55,341 --> 00:37:56,942 No thanks. 771 00:37:57,042 --> 00:37:58,276 I'm sorry. 772 00:37:58,377 --> 00:38:01,046 If you're going to sit here, you have to order something. 773 00:38:01,146 --> 00:38:03,782 I don't have any money. 774 00:38:03,882 --> 00:38:06,552 Do you want a soda? 775 00:38:06,652 --> 00:38:08,787 GLORIA BROWN: She seemed very depressed. 776 00:38:08,887 --> 00:38:10,422 She didn't smile . 777 00:38:10,522 --> 00:38:13,291 She didn't hardly speak. 778 00:38:13,392 --> 00:38:15,461 And very strange, very strange. 779 00:38:18,029 --> 00:38:19,431 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Several days later, 780 00:38:19,531 --> 00:38:21,767 Gloria Brown saw this flyer. 781 00:38:21,867 --> 00:38:25,070 She was startled to realize that the sad, young woman strongly 782 00:38:25,170 --> 00:38:27,406 resembled Dede Rosenthal, who had 783 00:38:27,506 --> 00:38:32,644 vanished under peculiar circumstances the week before. 784 00:38:32,744 --> 00:38:35,213 Gloria Brown's account was a first indication 785 00:38:35,313 --> 00:38:38,417 that Dede might still be alive, but before police 786 00:38:38,517 --> 00:38:40,486 could talk to the stranger in the bar, 787 00:38:40,586 --> 00:38:42,454 she, too, had disappeared. 788 00:38:45,357 --> 00:38:47,393 The uncertain fate of Dede Rosenthal 789 00:38:47,493 --> 00:38:51,129 has left her family heartbroken and authorities baffled. 790 00:38:51,229 --> 00:38:53,799 Dede's trail is obscured by conflicting clues, 791 00:38:53,899 --> 00:38:58,069 unexplained phone calls, and not one, but two alleged sightings. 792 00:38:58,169 --> 00:39:00,539 Nothing about the case makes any sense. 793 00:39:00,639 --> 00:39:04,075 Dede Rosenthal hardly seemed the type to be at the center 794 00:39:04,175 --> 00:39:05,611 of an unsolved mystery. 795 00:39:09,347 --> 00:39:11,216 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): 32-year-old Dede Rosenthal 796 00:39:11,316 --> 00:39:12,918 was a highly regarded therapist who 797 00:39:13,018 --> 00:39:15,220 worked with autistic children. 798 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,556 When she failed to show up at her clinic on Monday, 799 00:39:17,656 --> 00:39:20,726 February 25, 1991, her colleagues 800 00:39:20,826 --> 00:39:22,461 naturally became concerned. 801 00:39:27,265 --> 00:39:30,035 One of Dede's coworkers notified police and met 802 00:39:30,135 --> 00:39:31,603 them at Dede's apartment. 803 00:39:35,306 --> 00:39:38,243 Immediately it was clear that something was wrong. 804 00:39:38,343 --> 00:39:40,579 The front door was unlocked, and the Sunday 805 00:39:40,679 --> 00:39:42,648 paper was still untouched. 806 00:39:45,651 --> 00:39:48,654 Inside everything seemed to be in order without signs 807 00:39:48,754 --> 00:39:51,289 of ransacking or a struggle. 808 00:39:51,389 --> 00:39:54,125 However, investigators discovered that Dede was being 809 00:39:54,225 --> 00:39:56,161 evicted from her apartment. 810 00:39:56,261 --> 00:39:58,997 She apparently spent money freely and occasionally went 811 00:39:59,097 --> 00:40:01,399 into debt. 812 00:40:01,500 --> 00:40:03,334 RICHARD TOMLINSON: The missing girl had been having 813 00:40:03,435 --> 00:40:06,204 some financial difficulties. 814 00:40:06,304 --> 00:40:09,708 So it kind of gave rise to the belief 815 00:40:09,808 --> 00:40:12,678 that maybe it became overwhelming 816 00:40:12,778 --> 00:40:15,246 and she left of her own volition. 817 00:40:15,346 --> 00:40:18,450 Dede just would not be the person just to take off. 818 00:40:18,550 --> 00:40:21,820 If she was going to take off or was going to go away, 819 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,890 she would either call her mom or she would call me. 820 00:40:27,358 --> 00:40:28,794 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Disquieting evidence 821 00:40:28,894 --> 00:40:31,396 hinted that Dede had met with foul play. 822 00:40:31,497 --> 00:40:35,300 Her purse had been left behind with a key, identification, 823 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,536 and credit cards inside. 824 00:40:37,636 --> 00:40:40,305 One discovery in particular suggested that Dede 825 00:40:40,405 --> 00:40:42,407 might have been abducted. 826 00:40:42,508 --> 00:40:44,075 There's a cat out here, John. 827 00:40:49,247 --> 00:40:51,850 SHERRI KLEMOW-SHEVLIN: Dede would not have left her cat, 828 00:40:51,950 --> 00:40:55,420 her most loved possession. 829 00:40:55,521 --> 00:40:57,589 She took her cat everywhere where she went. 830 00:40:57,689 --> 00:40:58,990 She would never have let it-- 831 00:40:59,090 --> 00:41:02,528 let alone in the apartment, let alone sitting out on a balcony. 832 00:41:02,628 --> 00:41:04,462 She would not have put it out the door 833 00:41:04,563 --> 00:41:07,298 and say, all right, good bye, I'm leaving. 834 00:41:07,398 --> 00:41:11,737 That's totally out of character. 835 00:41:11,837 --> 00:41:13,371 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Police found Dede's car 836 00:41:13,471 --> 00:41:15,473 parked in its usual spot. 837 00:41:15,574 --> 00:41:18,143 But oddly, her briefcase with all her client 838 00:41:18,243 --> 00:41:20,946 records had been left in the car. 839 00:41:21,046 --> 00:41:24,716 If Dede were to take off on her own, 840 00:41:24,816 --> 00:41:28,887 why wouldn't she take her car? 841 00:41:28,987 --> 00:41:34,459 I knew something was horribly wrong with this scenario. 842 00:41:37,395 --> 00:41:38,564 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The evidence 843 00:41:38,664 --> 00:41:40,465 of foul play was mounting. 844 00:41:40,566 --> 00:41:43,134 The investigation raised the distinct possibility 845 00:41:43,234 --> 00:41:45,436 that Dede Rosenthal had been kidnapped 846 00:41:45,537 --> 00:41:47,906 and perhaps murdered sometime between 10:00 847 00:41:48,006 --> 00:41:49,941 PM Friday and dawn Sunday. 848 00:41:54,713 --> 00:41:56,815 That conclusion was bolstered by an account 849 00:41:56,915 --> 00:41:58,884 from one of Dede's neighbors. 850 00:41:58,984 --> 00:42:02,420 The woman was awakened around 3:45 AM Sunday morning 851 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,457 by strange sounds coming from Dede's apartment. 852 00:42:06,558 --> 00:42:09,194 [screaming] 853 00:42:10,228 --> 00:42:11,429 RICHARD TOMLINSON (VOICEOVER): She 854 00:42:11,529 --> 00:42:15,000 heard what sounded like a scream, followed by a thud. 855 00:42:15,100 --> 00:42:19,137 And she likened it to someone falling out of bed 856 00:42:19,237 --> 00:42:20,038 and being startled. 857 00:42:25,811 --> 00:42:26,912 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Five hours 858 00:42:27,012 --> 00:42:29,380 later at around 8:30, the same neighbor 859 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:33,652 heard the balcony door open and assumed Dede was at home. 860 00:42:33,752 --> 00:42:35,520 However, no one can be certain whether it 861 00:42:35,621 --> 00:42:38,556 was Didi or an assailant in the apartment. 862 00:42:41,526 --> 00:42:44,229 But unexpected evidence that Dede might still be alive 863 00:42:44,329 --> 00:42:47,432 surfaced a week later when the woman who resembled her 864 00:42:47,532 --> 00:42:50,535 wandered into the New Jersey biker hangout. 865 00:42:50,636 --> 00:42:53,171 If it was in fact Dede, she was pitifully 866 00:42:53,271 --> 00:42:55,273 confused about her identity. 867 00:42:58,576 --> 00:43:00,311 GLORIA BROWN: I do believe it was her. 868 00:43:00,411 --> 00:43:01,913 I really do. 869 00:43:02,013 --> 00:43:05,283 She looks so much like the picture. 870 00:43:05,383 --> 00:43:09,921 If she had only smiled, I would have known definitely. 871 00:43:10,021 --> 00:43:12,958 But it looked like her. 872 00:43:13,058 --> 00:43:14,192 Hi. 873 00:43:14,292 --> 00:43:15,694 Hi. 874 00:43:15,794 --> 00:43:18,596 You're not from around here are you? 875 00:43:18,697 --> 00:43:19,965 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The young woman 876 00:43:20,065 --> 00:43:21,700 said her name was Lori and that she 877 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,735 was trying to get to Florida. 878 00:43:23,835 --> 00:43:27,072 She left with one of the bikers who is not a suspect. 879 00:43:27,172 --> 00:43:29,274 He told police he dropped her off the next day 880 00:43:29,374 --> 00:43:31,176 at a liquor store near a major highway. 881 00:43:35,380 --> 00:43:36,614 [telephone ringing] 882 00:43:36,715 --> 00:43:37,916 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Just one week 883 00:43:38,016 --> 00:43:40,418 later, Dede's Aunt Celia was startled 884 00:43:40,518 --> 00:43:42,120 by a mysterious phone call. 885 00:43:42,220 --> 00:43:43,889 WOMAN (ON PHONE): Mama? 886 00:43:43,989 --> 00:43:45,090 Who is this? 887 00:43:45,190 --> 00:43:45,991 WOMAN (ON PHONE): Mama? 888 00:43:46,091 --> 00:43:47,525 Mama? 889 00:43:47,625 --> 00:43:48,493 Dede? 890 00:43:48,593 --> 00:43:49,961 WOMAN (ON PHONE): I'm OK. 891 00:43:50,061 --> 00:43:53,364 Dede, is that you? 892 00:43:53,464 --> 00:43:55,033 Celia called me. 893 00:43:55,133 --> 00:43:58,203 She was very excited. 894 00:43:58,303 --> 00:44:01,072 She told me that she just received 895 00:44:01,172 --> 00:44:06,244 a phone call from someone that she swore was my sister Dede. 896 00:44:08,479 --> 00:44:09,580 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Five weeks 897 00:44:09,681 --> 00:44:11,549 went by with no more news. 898 00:44:11,649 --> 00:44:13,584 Then Dede's brother received a tip 899 00:44:13,685 --> 00:44:16,554 that his sister was in Florida. 900 00:44:16,654 --> 00:44:19,390 BLAINE ROSENBERG: Approximately April 15, 901 00:44:19,490 --> 00:44:23,729 I received a phone call from a male party who asked me 902 00:44:23,829 --> 00:44:27,665 if I was Blaine Rosenberg, I was her brother, which I said, yes. 903 00:44:27,766 --> 00:44:30,702 They said we've seen TV, or we spotted Dede 904 00:44:30,802 --> 00:44:34,672 in the Fort Lauderdale area. 905 00:44:34,773 --> 00:44:37,743 As I started talking, the phone disconnected. 906 00:44:41,947 --> 00:44:43,148 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): A year passed 907 00:44:43,248 --> 00:44:45,150 and Dede's family still had no idea 908 00:44:45,250 --> 00:44:47,685 whether she was dead or alive. 909 00:44:47,786 --> 00:44:51,957 Then on September 5, 1992, the woman who called herself Lori 910 00:44:52,057 --> 00:44:53,959 returned to the biker bar. 911 00:44:54,059 --> 00:44:56,161 She had dyed her hair blonde and claimed 912 00:44:56,261 --> 00:44:59,164 to have been in Florida. 913 00:44:59,264 --> 00:45:00,465 GLORIA BROWN: My impression was that she 914 00:45:00,565 --> 00:45:03,101 had had a nervous breakdown. 915 00:45:03,201 --> 00:45:07,172 Excuse me, is your name Dede? 916 00:45:07,272 --> 00:45:08,874 No, it's Lori. 917 00:45:08,974 --> 00:45:11,109 Well, If you are Dede, you better 918 00:45:11,209 --> 00:45:12,143 get in touch with your mother. 919 00:45:12,243 --> 00:45:13,111 She's pretty upset. 920 00:45:16,347 --> 00:45:19,417 GLORIA BROWN: I believe that she just turned away from me 921 00:45:19,517 --> 00:45:22,553 because she didn't want to have anything 922 00:45:22,653 --> 00:45:27,292 to do with what I was saying because I knew 923 00:45:27,392 --> 00:45:28,459 and she knew that I knew. 924 00:45:32,530 --> 00:45:33,631 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The woman 925 00:45:33,731 --> 00:45:36,101 known as Lori was last seen at the Lakehurst, New 926 00:45:36,201 --> 00:45:38,003 Jersey tavern where she was dropped 927 00:45:38,103 --> 00:45:41,006 off by a patron of the bar. 928 00:45:41,106 --> 00:45:43,741 Once again, she disappeared before she could be interviewed 929 00:45:43,842 --> 00:45:46,978 by police who were skeptical that Dede and Lori are 930 00:45:47,078 --> 00:45:49,114 one and the same person. 931 00:45:49,214 --> 00:45:51,749 Today, investigators still lack sufficient evidence 932 00:45:51,850 --> 00:45:54,119 to determine whether she was murdered 933 00:45:54,219 --> 00:45:57,522 or is wandering the streets uncertain of her own identity. 934 00:45:57,622 --> 00:46:00,992 [music playing] 935 00:46:29,420 --> 00:46:30,989 Join me next time. 936 00:46:31,089 --> 00:46:34,059 Perhaps you may be able to solve a mystery. 937 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