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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): 1966.
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Quang Tri Province,
South Vietnam.
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A helicopter crash claims the
life of Navy medic Mark Dennis.
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Four years later,
this photograph
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of an unknown
American POW appeared
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in "Newsweek" magazine.
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The Dennis family
became convinced
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that Mark had survived
the crash and was
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captured by the Viet Cong.
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Dorothy Izatt, an unassuming
Canadian homemaker,
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has captured these
eerie lights on film
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and believes there is no
explanation other than UFOs.
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The skeptics are unconvinced.
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Ricardo Caputo, a
charismatic ladies' man
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and allegedly a brutal killer.
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According to the police,
Caputo has murdered
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at least five women,
and authorities
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need your help to catch him.
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Also tonight, an update
on our recent profile
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of one of the FBI'S 10
Most Wanted criminals.
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Thanks to our broadcast, a
suspected serial child molester
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is now in custody.
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Join us.
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You may be able to
help solve a mystery.
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[theme music]
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): March 1966.
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Miamisburg, Ohio.
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Well, if I remember right,
this is the hardest part.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The
war in Vietnam was escalating.
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Navy medic Mark Dennis
said goodbye to his family.
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See you later.
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Take care, bud.
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All right, will do.
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OK, I'm gonna miss you.
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Promise to write, OK?
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I will.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Mark
had joined the Navy in 1964
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at the age of 17.
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He chose to be a
medic because he
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believed it would be useful
his desire to one day
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become a missionary.
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Son, be careful.
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Do what they tell you to do,
and you're gonna be all right.
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Yes, sir.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Mark Dennis
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was a deeply religious
young man with strong sense
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of compassion.
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According to his family, he
had volunteered for service
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in Vietnam so that a married
soldier with a family
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would not have to go.
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Once in Vietnam, Mark was
attached to the Marine 2nd
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Battalion, Company E,
stationed in Dong Ha
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next to the demilitarized zone.
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In combat slang,
the sector was hot.
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Go!
SOLDIER: Let's go!
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Come on!
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Get out of here!
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JERRY DENNIS: We all knew
he was going into combat,
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but it was really
not on anybody's mind
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that it was as bad as it
became a few months later.
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So we all felt, you
know, it was dangerous,
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but it was his place to go.
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He had volunteered.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
July 15, 1966.
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Mark and 15 other men were
aboard a Chinook helicopter
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bringing assistance
to a battalion
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hemmed in by the
North Vietnamese army.
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The helicopter ran into
heavy enemy gunfire.
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This is an actual photograph
of Mark's helicopter
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shortly after it was hit.
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The helicopter crashed
and exploded in the midst
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of an infantry firefight.
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According to Navy records,
only three men survived--
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the pilot, copilot,
and the gunner.
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13 men had perished
in the crash.
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JERRY DENNIS (VOICEOVER):
When I came down the street,
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I saw the Navy vehicle.
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The first thing that hit my
mind is, did Mark get killed?
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I pulled up to the house,
and I heard my sister yell,
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Marky's dead.
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He's dead!
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Oh, God.
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Hold me!
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No!
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JERRY DENNIS: It was
just a total shock.
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Then the wait for the casket,
it just was days and then
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turned into weeks.
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The whole thing was really a
trauma that is difficult today
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to even talk about.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Mark Dennis
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was buried on August 9, 1966.
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Due to the condition
of the body,
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the Navy suggested that the
family not view the remains.
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They complied.
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The first four
years was rough.
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And the Vietnam War went on,
and we just tried to shut it
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out of our lives, until 1970.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
On November 30, 1970,
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"Newsweek" magazine
published this photograph
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of an unknown prisoner of war.
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When the Dennis family
saw the photograph,
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they thought it
looked just like Mark.
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Suddenly faced with
the possibility
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that Mark might be alive, they
immediately contacted the Navy.
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Naval authorities requested
additional photographs of Mark
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to see if they could make
a positive identification.
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Six weeks passed.
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Finally, the Navy
concluded the man
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in the photograph
was not Mark Dennis
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but rather a previously
documented prisoner.
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The Navy continued to maintain
Mark had been killed in action.
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Unconvinced, Jerry Dennis
requested that the Navy forward
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Mark's death certificate.
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The death certificate brought
a disturbing revelation.
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It appeared that every
man killed in the crash
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had been positively
identified except Mark Dennis.
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The Navy stated that
they were definitely
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able to match 12 bodies found
in the wreckage with 12 men
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from Mark's unit.
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The 13th body was burned
beyond recognition.
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They apparently
assumed it was Mark
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by a process of elimination.
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Jerry Dennis, still believing
the man pictured in "Newsweek"
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might be his brother,
now became convinced
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that Mark had survived.
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Several weeks after
the photograph
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appeared, Jerry received further
evidence that his brother might
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not have died in the crash.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): In 1971,
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an article about
Jerry Dennis' efforts
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to find out what
happened to his brother
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appeared in a local newspaper.
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The next day, Jerry was visited
by a Navy dental technician
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named Steve Wilcox.
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Steve Wilcox had been Mark's
best friend in boot camp.
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Six months after Mark
was reported killed,
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Steve met another medic who had
served with Mark in Vietnam.
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Everybody that
came to the hospital
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had to come through my office.
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They had to deliver their
dental records to me.
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So I knew where
everybody came from,
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and I knew there was just one
medic who had come from 'Nam.
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I saw him later, and we
had a chance to talk.
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We worked together a lot
in the field as medics.
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He's one of the best
medics in the group, too.
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STEVE WILCOX
(VOICEOVER): I mentioned
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that I had a friend
that was killed in 'Nam,
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and mentioned that
it was Mark Dennis,
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and he was in Mark's unit.
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Hey, were you there when
that chopper went down?
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No, I wasn't actually there.
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Look--
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STEVE WILCOX
(VOICEOVER): Then he
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started to share some
information with me that was--
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caught me off guard.
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It really surprised me.
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I don't think
Mark died that day.
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But they sent the body home.
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I mean, the family buried Mark.
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Well, I was in the first
recovery crew, right?
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STEVE WILCOX: First
of all, he said
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that Mark was not supposed to
have been on that helicopter.
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And secondly, nobody
really in the unit
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believed that Mark was dead.
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There was no evidence
at the crash site
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that he was on the
helicopter when it crashed.
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Let's go!
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Let's get out of here!
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Come on!
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): In the
chaotic aftermath of the crash,
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the medic recalled that no
equipment bags belonging
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to Navy medics were
found in the debris,
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nor were Mark Dennis' dog tags.
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Most alarming, he reported
that there were not 13 bodies
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recovered, as
claimed by the Navy.
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STEVE WILCOX: I was
very frustrated that I
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could not remember his name.
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There are a lot of things
that were unsettling with him.
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I was more concerned
with Mark, naturally,
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so that's what I
remember the most.
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But I do remember that he was--
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he indicated things were
happening there that he didn't
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understand and bothered him.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Based on Steve Wilcox's story,
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the Dennis family
chose to ignore
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the Navy's recommendation
not to view the body.
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They decided to have
the remains exhumed.
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Well, I guess I'm about
as ready as I'll ever be.
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Let's go ahead and do it.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Because the body had been
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burned beyond recognition,
military procedure
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called for the uniform
to be placed on top.
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The remains were underneath,
wrapped in a plastic bag
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covered by a Navy blanket.
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JERRY: Dog tag.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Jerry found
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dog tags pinned to the blanket.
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The tags seemed brand new
and still had sharp edges.
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I immediately grabbed
the dog tag to read it,
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and a burr in the dog tag
sunk into my thumb, actually
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drew blood.
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And I immediately realized
these dog tags were never worn,
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or they would have cut
your chest to ribbons.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Jerry also noticed
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curious burn marks on the tags.
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They were not from
a helicopter crash.
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I was into the arson field.
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I knew what the temperatures
reached in that helicopter
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as it burned and melted down.
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These dog tags were
not in that helicopter.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Jerry Dennis
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once again contacted the Navy.
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Their initial response was
that the tags must have
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been thrown from the helicopter
and burned at a lower
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temperature.
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Later, they arrived at
a different conclusion.
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The ID tags that are
recovered from a crash site
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would have been brought to
the mortuary with the remains.
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But since it was not mentioned
on the death certificate
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that ID tags were part of
the identification process,
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I have to assume that
new ID tags were made
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at the Army mortuary in Saigon.
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That was standard
policy at that time.
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That is normal.
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It is not normal to
make up a dog tag
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and burn it to make it simulate
that it was in a crash.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Jerry had lab technicians
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examine residue from the tags.
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They concluded the tags had
been charred in a low-grade fire
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under a controlled flame.
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A forensic
anthropologist determined
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that the height of the dead man
was approximately 5 feet 7",
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which corresponded with
the Navy's estimate.
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However, in 1963, Mark Dennis
was measured at 5 feet,
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9 and 1/2".
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Further, his family
claims that when
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he left for Vietnam
three years later,
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he had grown to 6 feet tall.
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Jerry also ordered
tests on scrapings
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taken from the remains.
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The tests revealed traces of
lead, another inconsistency.
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The body was not blown
up in a Chinook helicopter,
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because a Chinook
helicopter uses JP-4
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or JP-5 non-leaded kerosene.
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This body had been burned
with regular gasoline.
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What he failed to consider
as possible other contaminants
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of lead in that incident
were military radio batteries
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on board the
aircraft, ammunition,
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paint from the aircraft,
that kind of thing.
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The standard reference
used by the FBI states
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that there are also minute
presence of lead that
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occurs naturally in human bone.
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We weren't talking
about bone marrow.
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We're talking
about the residues,
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the smoke on the surface of
the burned areas, the bone,
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the flesh, the skull itself.
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So they were comparing
eggs and oranges.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
In November 1971,
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Jerry officially requested
a change in Mark's status
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from killed in action
to missing in action.
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The Navy refused.
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I was given a choice--
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either accepting
that body, you know,
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or if we refused to
accept it, the Navy
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was going to bury it
in Arlington Cemetery
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with Mark's headstone on it.
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And I decided there
was no way in hell
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they're going to do that.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Two months
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later, the Dennis
family reburied
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the body in Miamisburg.
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Jerry placed a ribbon
upon the headstone.
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It read, "In memory of
one known only to God."
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March 1973.
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The war in Vietnam was over.
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The first prisoners of
war began coming home.
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The Dennis family prayed that
Mark would be among them.
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He was not.
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The arrival of the Vietnamese
boat people in the late 1970s
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brought renewed hope,
stories of American GIs still
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being held captive in Vietnam.
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For most of us, the Vietnam
War had begun to fade by 1980.
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For Jerry Dennis and the
families of other men
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whose fate was still
unknown, the war raged on.
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Jerry decided to
renew his efforts
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and petitioned his
congressman to investigate
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the circumstances
surrounding Mark's death.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): In 1981,
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pressure from
Jerry's congressman
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forced the Navy
into interviewing
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Capt. Gary Lucas, the helicopter
gunner who survived the crash.
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In a signed affidavit,
Lucas stated that two men
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had jumped from the
helicopter, though he
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assumed they were killed.
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The man who got
out of this alive
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said men jumped out of the
aircraft in enemy territory
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prior to the crash.
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At least two he saw jump.
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Did he see it?
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The pilot said that
the smoke was so bad
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after the aircraft
was hit he could
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not see to fly the helicopter.
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Or did he see two people
move towards the rear
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of the aircraft to try and
get away from the fire?
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The fact remains
that all the remains
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of those that perished on
that aircraft were recovered.
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When I first became
involved in this,
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it was a personal issue.
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It was a brother, Mark
Dennis, the kid that got left
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behind by the US government.
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And it was a very
personal thing.
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Everybody involved in this
issue, the family members,
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start out that way.
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But you don't remain
that way very long.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Over the next four years,
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Jerry Dennis became increasingly
active in national POW and MIA
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organizations.
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He made numerous trips to
Washington to plead his case.
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Then in December
of 1986, Jerry got
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another piece of
compelling evidence
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that Mark had not
died in the crash.
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Where did you get
these bracelets?
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WOMAN: This is a
bracelet of Jerry's
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brother, who's a POW/MIA.
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A gentleman to my left really
became absorbed in listening,
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and I knew he was interested.
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JERRY: --probability
he may be alive today.
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- Excuse me.
- Yes, sir.
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I didn't want to interrupt,
but I happened to overhear
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part of your conversation.
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My name is John King.
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John, I'm Jerry.
This is Carol.
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Hi.
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Hi.
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I heard you talking
about the POWs.
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When I was in the Air
Force, I happened to be
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a POW myself from '66 to '69.
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Um, I was moved around a
lot, four different camps.
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In the last camp I was
in, there was a gentleman
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by the name of Dennis.
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And I said, well,
what was his first name?
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He said, I don't know.
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We all went by nicknames.
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I said, what was his nickname?
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When he told me his nickname
was Preacher, I got cold chills.
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Mark was very close
to the Church.
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He talked about
becoming a missionary
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before he went in the service.
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While in the service, he had
just written home in letters
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that his unit was separated
and he was the acting chaplain
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for the group he was in.
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He was proud of that.
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Here's a man telling us
all these years later--
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excuse me-- that that
was his nickname.
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Then we pulled out
Mark's picture.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, that's him.
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JERRY: You're sure?
- I'm positive.
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That's him.
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It's what I had been
saying all along could be--
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probably was-- that he lived.
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He definitely lived
through the crash in '66.
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The odds he was still alive,
especially if he was once
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captured as a medic-- he
was useful to these people
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as a medic.
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I basically feel I have
become pretty good friends
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with Mr. Jerry
Dennis over the years
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since I've been
working with him.
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And I've made every effort
on behalf of the Navy
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to try and convince him that we
have a positive identification
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of his brother Mark's remains.
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I get the impression
from Mr. Dennis
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that he still does not believe
they are his brother's remains,
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or for some reason doesn't
want to believe it.
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But I, in my own heart,
feel that for sure we have
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the remains of Mark Dennis.
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No matter what
we come up with--
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I swear if I marched Mark Dennis
into the United States Navy
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headquarters tomorrow, they'd
find some excuse to discredit
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his identification.
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It doesn't matter
what you present.
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They aren't going to change.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Did Mark Dennis
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die in the helicopter crash?
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Or did he survive, only
to be taken prisoner
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by the North Vietnamese?
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Jerry Dennis may
never know who is
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buried in his brother's grave.
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00:17:58,077 --> 00:17:59,546
But if it isn't
Mark Dennis, then
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another family has never been
able to put their son to rest.
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Whether Mark is alive
today, I don't know.
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What condition he would
be in, where he would be,
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I don't know.
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But in my opinion, no
one else knows, either,
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except some Vietnamese
who hold the keys.
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But the point is,
Mark Dennis has
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a right, a constitutional
right, to not be listed
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dead by the stroke of a pen.
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He has a right to
be accounted for.
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He has a right to be demanded.
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And that's never been done by
our government for Mark Dennis.
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00:18:39,686 --> 00:18:41,454
After this story
originally aired,
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additional details emerged
which may shed new light
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on the mystery of Mark Dennis.
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We were contacted by the
Department of the Army,
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which sought to clarify some of
the more controversial issues
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presented in our broadcast.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
As we reported,
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Jerry Dennis first
became convinced
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that his brother
might still be alive
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00:19:00,507 --> 00:19:02,108
when "Newsweek"
magazine published
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this photograph of an
unidentified prisoner of war.
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Jerry felt that it bore a
strong resemblance to Mark.
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Six months later, the Dennis
family was told by the Navy
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that the man had been positively
identified as Paul Galanti,
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a US Navy commander shot down
over North Vietnam in 1966
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and released from
captivity in 1973.
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Nevertheless, Jerry
Dennis continued to press
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his case against the military.
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When I was in the Air
Force, I happened to be
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a POW myself from '66 to '69.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): 16
years later, in 1986, Jerry met
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a man named John King.
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King presented himself
as a former POW
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who had managed to escape.
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He claimed to have
met Mark Dennis
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while both were in captivity.
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00:19:49,622 --> 00:19:50,423
Yeah.
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Yeah, that's him.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): It
is now known that the name John
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King is not officially
listed as a POW
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in any branch of the military.
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00:20:01,067 --> 00:20:03,503
Perhaps the most controversial
aspect of the case
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concerns the remains exhumed
from Mark Dennis' grave.
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Jerry Dennis did not believe
X-rays taken of those bones
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matched X-rays
taken of his brother
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at the time of his enlistment.
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With the cooperation of the
US Department of the Army,
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we contacted Dr.
John Fitzpatrick,
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an independent
forensic radiologist.
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To positively identify
the body, Dr. Fitzpatrick
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examined a blowup of a
known X-ray of Mark Dennis
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with an X-ray of the remains
buried in Mark Dennis' grave.
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When he compared three specific
points from the X-rays,
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he concluded that the bones had
exactly the same configuration.
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I compared the X-rays taken
on the three vertebrae that were
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excavated from the
site in Vietnam
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with the X-ray of Mark Dennis.
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The three vertebrae
are identical.
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There's enough unique
about everybody,
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no matter what we look at,
that no two people are alike.
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And therefore, the vertebrate
are those of Mark Dennis,
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and this is a 100%
identification.
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After we received Dr.
Fitzpatrick's analysis,
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we contacted Jerry
Dennis for his comments.
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In spite of the new
forensic findings,
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Jerry still believes
that his brother did not
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die when the Navy said he did.
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00:21:29,922 --> 00:21:31,524
The Department of
the Army considers
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the case of Mark Dennis closed.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Next, our viewers
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help capture Kenneth Robert
Stanton, one of the FBI's
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10 Most Wanted criminals.
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Recently, the director of
the FBI, William Sessions,
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made a special appeal
on "Unsolved Mysteries"
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to announce the latest
addition to the FBI's 10
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Most Wanted list.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): In
1964, Kenneth Robert Stanton
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was convicted of
child molestation
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and diagnosed as a
criminal sexual psychopath.
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He was later declared
fit to re-enter society
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and was set free.
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In 1989, Stanton was identified
in Jackson, Mississippi,
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by a 12-year-old girl he
allegedly attempted to molest.
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According to the girl, Stanton
gained entry into her home
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by posing as a policeman.
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Hi.
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Is your mother home?
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No.
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Well, I'm Officer Tom Coles.
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I'm with the local
police department.
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FRED C. STOFER (VOICEOVER):
He has a high IQ,
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and he's very
intelligent, and he's
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able to gain their confidence
to get inside the house.
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- And I'll be gone.
- OK.
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All right.
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Once he's inside
and he's determined
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that the children
or child is alone,
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he blindfolds them frequently.
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Quite often, he uses eye drops
and a thermometer, possibly
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for a distraction.
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It's at that time then
that he continues on
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and assaults the children.
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GIRL: [screaming]
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): According
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to the 12-year-old girl, Stanton
fled when she began screaming.
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FRED C. STOFER (VOICEOVER):
After the Jackson, Mississippi,
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assault, there were
identifications
499
00:23:21,267 --> 00:23:23,536
of Stanton in
Columbus, Mississippi,
500
00:23:23,636 --> 00:23:27,306
as well as Tuscaloosa,
Alabama; Leesburg,
501
00:23:27,406 --> 00:23:31,678
Georgia; Douglasville, Georgia;
and Warner Robins, Georgia.
502
00:23:31,778 --> 00:23:33,846
After reviewing a
number of these cases
503
00:23:33,946 --> 00:23:36,949
and looking at Stanton's
history from the early 1960s,
504
00:23:37,049 --> 00:23:41,120
we were able to conclude that he
apparently was a lifelong child
505
00:23:41,220 --> 00:23:43,389
molester and probably
could be described
506
00:23:43,490 --> 00:23:44,724
as a serial child molester.
507
00:23:48,027 --> 00:23:49,028
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Update.
508
00:23:49,128 --> 00:23:51,664
Kenneth Robert Stanton
has been captured.
509
00:23:51,764 --> 00:23:53,866
Within minutes of our
broadcast, several viewers
510
00:23:53,966 --> 00:23:55,968
called our telecenter
to report that Stanton
511
00:23:56,068 --> 00:23:59,472
was living in a trailer park in
Moraine, Ohio, with his wife.
512
00:23:59,572 --> 00:24:02,775
He had been married just
a few weeks earlier.
513
00:24:02,875 --> 00:24:05,878
Local police and FBI agents
arrived at Stanton's trailer
514
00:24:05,978 --> 00:24:08,581
only to learn that he himself
had seen our broadcast
515
00:24:08,681 --> 00:24:09,616
and fled.
516
00:24:09,716 --> 00:24:13,753
Stanton's wife and
neighbors were stunned.
517
00:24:13,853 --> 00:24:15,287
I've talked to my
son, and I've had him
518
00:24:15,387 --> 00:24:17,524
in front of the house
staying in the yard
519
00:24:17,624 --> 00:24:19,058
just in case he come back.
520
00:24:19,158 --> 00:24:20,827
And, you know, I
don't want someone
521
00:24:20,927 --> 00:24:22,662
like that running around
the streets at all.
522
00:24:22,762 --> 00:24:24,497
You know, anyone
that does anything
523
00:24:24,597 --> 00:24:26,132
like that should be put away.
524
00:24:26,232 --> 00:24:27,800
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Five days later, Stanton
525
00:24:27,900 --> 00:24:30,169
was identified in Rock
Hill, South Carolina,
526
00:24:30,269 --> 00:24:35,074
after he allegedly attempted
to molest a 9-year-old girl.
527
00:24:35,174 --> 00:24:37,443
JOHN PIERSON: Based on seeing
the segment on the program,
528
00:24:37,544 --> 00:24:39,846
coupled with the
police report, we
529
00:24:39,946 --> 00:24:42,281
suspected there was
a strong possibility
530
00:24:42,381 --> 00:24:46,519
that Stanton was in Rock Hill
or somewhere in this area.
531
00:24:46,619 --> 00:24:47,987
And we proceeded
on an assumption
532
00:24:48,087 --> 00:24:52,158
that he was possibly
staying at a local motel.
533
00:24:52,258 --> 00:24:53,526
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Two days later,
534
00:24:53,626 --> 00:24:56,162
FBI agents spotted
Stanton's car in the parking
535
00:24:56,262 --> 00:24:58,064
lot of this motel.
536
00:24:58,164 --> 00:24:59,932
JOHN PIERSON (VOICEOVER):
After identifying the vehicle,
537
00:25:00,032 --> 00:25:04,537
we established a surveillance
of the motel with FBI agents
538
00:25:04,637 --> 00:25:07,640
and York County Sheriff's
Department detectives.
539
00:25:07,740 --> 00:25:09,141
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Incredibly, a check
540
00:25:09,241 --> 00:25:11,243
with the motel office
revealed that Stanton had
541
00:25:11,343 --> 00:25:13,680
registered under his own name.
542
00:25:13,780 --> 00:25:16,348
JOHN PIERSON: He had
indicated to the clerk
543
00:25:16,448 --> 00:25:18,885
previously that he wanted
to stay an additional week
544
00:25:18,985 --> 00:25:22,955
but he also wanted to
move to the main building.
545
00:25:23,055 --> 00:25:26,425
The clerk, at our
direction, called his room
546
00:25:26,525 --> 00:25:31,530
and told him the new room
was ready and he could move.
547
00:25:31,631 --> 00:25:34,934
When Stanton emerged from
his room, we arrested him.
548
00:25:35,034 --> 00:25:36,368
We asked his name.
549
00:25:36,468 --> 00:25:39,672
He said, you know who
I am, and he indicated
550
00:25:39,772 --> 00:25:41,908
that he was not a
threat to us, that he
551
00:25:42,008 --> 00:25:44,176
was only a threat to himself.
552
00:25:44,276 --> 00:25:47,513
He did indicate that the
following day was his birthday.
553
00:25:56,789 --> 00:25:58,157
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
When we return,
554
00:25:58,257 --> 00:26:00,693
the police are hunting for a
suspect who they believe has
555
00:26:00,793 --> 00:26:02,161
murdered at least five women.
556
00:26:13,505 --> 00:26:15,975
July 31, 1971.
557
00:26:16,075 --> 00:26:20,112
Nassau County, New
York, 11:00 PM.
558
00:26:20,212 --> 00:26:22,381
A 20-year-old
Argentine man named
559
00:26:22,481 --> 00:26:27,186
Ricardo Caputo made a
late-night call to the police.
560
00:26:27,286 --> 00:26:28,587
OFFICER (ON TELEPHONE):
Police Department.
561
00:26:28,688 --> 00:26:30,556
I'd like to talk
to the police.
562
00:26:30,657 --> 00:26:32,024
OFFICER (ON TELEPHONE):
How can I help you?
563
00:26:32,124 --> 00:26:35,728
I want to report
something very important.
564
00:26:35,828 --> 00:26:37,429
OFFICER (ON TELEPHONE):
Where are you calling from?
565
00:26:37,529 --> 00:26:39,365
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): He
told police to go to the home
566
00:26:39,465 --> 00:26:40,566
of his girlfriend's parents.
567
00:26:40,667 --> 00:26:41,968
Her name was Natalie Brown.
568
00:26:44,637 --> 00:26:47,106
Caputo had been dating
Natalie for over a year
569
00:26:47,206 --> 00:26:51,377
and had told authorities that
he intended to marry her.
570
00:26:51,477 --> 00:26:52,779
DET.
571
00:26:52,879 --> 00:26:55,247
VANCE E. RENDELL: I responded to
the scene on Middle Neck Road.
572
00:26:55,347 --> 00:26:59,018
It was a small,
cottage-type, Cape Cod house.
573
00:26:59,118 --> 00:27:00,152
I went in the front door.
574
00:27:00,252 --> 00:27:01,688
And immediately on my
left, I saw a kitchen,
575
00:27:01,788 --> 00:27:03,622
and in the kitchen was
the body of Miss Brown.
576
00:27:08,995 --> 00:27:10,429
She had been stabbed repeatedly.
577
00:27:10,529 --> 00:27:11,931
The room was covered with blood.
578
00:27:12,031 --> 00:27:15,367
It was really a
vicious assault on her.
579
00:27:15,467 --> 00:27:17,904
It was the worst I ever
seen in my history,
580
00:27:18,004 --> 00:27:20,506
and I've covered a lot
of homicides in my life.
581
00:27:20,606 --> 00:27:22,675
During the time that Natalie
and Ricardo were seeing
582
00:27:22,775 --> 00:27:29,248
each other, I never saw any
signs of volatile behavior
583
00:27:29,348 --> 00:27:31,417
on his part.
584
00:27:31,517 --> 00:27:34,520
Both my father and mother
seemed to like him.
585
00:27:34,620 --> 00:27:35,788
They got along with him well.
586
00:27:35,888 --> 00:27:39,225
They both thought
he was a nice boy.
587
00:27:39,325 --> 00:27:40,727
Natalie Brown's
friends and family
588
00:27:40,827 --> 00:27:42,895
described her fiance as
amiable and attractive
589
00:27:42,995 --> 00:27:45,698
with a winning personality.
590
00:27:45,798 --> 00:27:47,233
But in the case
of Ricardo Caputo,
591
00:27:47,333 --> 00:27:49,135
appearances were
more than deceiving,
592
00:27:49,235 --> 00:27:51,337
they became a lethal weapon.
593
00:27:51,437 --> 00:27:53,940
Police believe that
since 1971, Caputo
594
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:58,144
has employed his charms to
kill again and again and again.
595
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,882
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): After
Caputo was taken into custody
596
00:28:02,982 --> 00:28:05,051
for Natalie Brown's
murder, authorities
597
00:28:05,151 --> 00:28:08,855
learned that before arriving
in the United States in 1970,
598
00:28:08,955 --> 00:28:10,422
he had been treated
for mental illness
599
00:28:10,522 --> 00:28:11,657
in an Argentine hospital.
600
00:28:14,593 --> 00:28:16,763
The psychiatric review
ruled that Caputo
601
00:28:16,863 --> 00:28:19,098
was incompetent to
stand trial, so he
602
00:28:19,198 --> 00:28:21,333
was remanded to the
Matteawan State Hospital
603
00:28:21,433 --> 00:28:23,335
in upstate New York.
604
00:28:23,435 --> 00:28:25,905
Matteawan is a maximum
security institution,
605
00:28:26,005 --> 00:28:27,639
and it was there
that Caputo would
606
00:28:27,740 --> 00:28:31,143
meet a 26-year-old psychologist
named Judith Becker.
607
00:28:31,243 --> 00:28:32,644
Well, hello there.
608
00:28:32,745 --> 00:28:34,881
My doctor, my friend.
609
00:28:34,981 --> 00:28:35,782
How are you?
610
00:28:35,882 --> 00:28:37,416
I'm very well, thank you.
611
00:28:37,516 --> 00:28:38,450
How are you?
612
00:28:38,550 --> 00:28:39,351
Fine.
613
00:28:39,451 --> 00:28:40,486
Now, listen.
614
00:28:40,586 --> 00:28:42,822
There's something I want
to talk to you about.
615
00:28:42,922 --> 00:28:45,624
The other doctors and I were
discussing a project which
616
00:28:45,724 --> 00:28:48,427
would involve taking you
and a few other patients
617
00:28:48,527 --> 00:28:49,695
outside to grow a garden.
618
00:28:49,796 --> 00:28:51,097
I think it--
619
00:28:51,197 --> 00:28:56,302
JANE STORRS: I believe it was a
relationship of a psychologist
620
00:28:56,402 --> 00:28:59,038
and a patient.
621
00:28:59,138 --> 00:29:02,408
She felt that her patients
were also her friends.
622
00:29:02,508 --> 00:29:05,711
She wanted them to
trust her, and I
623
00:29:05,812 --> 00:29:10,416
think she felt they had to
trust her in order for her
624
00:29:10,516 --> 00:29:11,417
to be able to help them.
625
00:29:11,517 --> 00:29:12,852
I will grow you
the biggest tomatoes.
626
00:29:12,952 --> 00:29:14,253
OK.
627
00:29:14,353 --> 00:29:16,088
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Judith
Becker was charmed by Caputo,
628
00:29:16,188 --> 00:29:17,890
and over the next
two years he worked
629
00:29:17,990 --> 00:29:19,826
overtime to gain her trust.
630
00:29:19,926 --> 00:29:21,760
Apparently, he succeeded.
631
00:29:21,861 --> 00:29:23,963
I do not like to remember.
632
00:29:24,063 --> 00:29:27,666
In speaking to other inmates
of Matteawan State Hospital,
633
00:29:27,766 --> 00:29:30,502
several of them stated that
Ricardo Caputo had been
634
00:29:30,602 --> 00:29:32,138
bragging that he
was going to use
635
00:29:32,238 --> 00:29:34,606
Judith Becker to
gain his freedom
636
00:29:34,706 --> 00:29:37,810
from Matteawan State Hospital.
637
00:29:37,910 --> 00:29:40,146
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): In
1973, with Judith Becker's
638
00:29:40,246 --> 00:29:42,248
assistance, Ricardo
Caputo managed
639
00:29:42,348 --> 00:29:44,984
to get transferred out of
Matteawan to a Manhattan
640
00:29:45,084 --> 00:29:47,086
psychiatric hospital.
641
00:29:47,186 --> 00:29:49,388
It had been two years
since Natalie Brown
642
00:29:49,488 --> 00:29:50,722
had been stabbed to death.
643
00:29:53,392 --> 00:29:55,862
This hospital was much less
restrictive than Matteawan
644
00:29:55,962 --> 00:30:00,299
and allowed patients to leave
the facility during the day.
645
00:30:00,399 --> 00:30:02,601
This new freedom allowed
Judith and Caputo
646
00:30:02,701 --> 00:30:06,272
to spend more time together
outside the hospital walls.
647
00:30:06,372 --> 00:30:08,307
Today, there is still
a debate on just
648
00:30:08,407 --> 00:30:11,844
how intimate they became.
649
00:30:11,944 --> 00:30:17,216
From there, their
relationship became romantic.
650
00:30:17,316 --> 00:30:19,485
From time to time, he
would leave the grounds
651
00:30:19,585 --> 00:30:22,754
and go up to her
apartment in Yonkers.
652
00:30:22,855 --> 00:30:28,928
Judy and Ricardo did not
have a romantic relationship.
653
00:30:29,028 --> 00:30:32,698
She never described it that way.
654
00:30:32,798 --> 00:30:35,767
And I believe she knew
enough about her profession
655
00:30:35,868 --> 00:30:40,739
and her patients to not
have allowed that to happen.
656
00:30:40,839 --> 00:30:44,911
I think she felt that
he needed whatever help
657
00:30:45,011 --> 00:30:46,712
she might be able to give him.
658
00:30:46,812 --> 00:30:47,880
What about your
family, though?
659
00:30:47,980 --> 00:30:49,281
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Judith even took
660
00:30:49,381 --> 00:30:52,851
Caputo home to meet her family.
661
00:30:52,952 --> 00:30:54,386
JANE STORRS: When
we met Ricardo,
662
00:30:54,486 --> 00:30:56,722
she introduced him
as a fellow who
663
00:30:56,822 --> 00:30:59,225
worked with her at Matteawan.
664
00:30:59,325 --> 00:31:03,662
She continued the
relationship as a friend
665
00:31:03,762 --> 00:31:08,300
and as a psychologist and as
somebody he could turn to.
666
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:13,739
And I don't believe that she
knew she was in as much danger
667
00:31:13,839 --> 00:31:17,543
as she ultimately was.
668
00:31:17,643 --> 00:31:20,179
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
October 21, 1974.
669
00:31:20,279 --> 00:31:23,349
Judith had failed to meet her
parents as planned for a family
670
00:31:23,449 --> 00:31:24,516
boating trip.
671
00:31:24,616 --> 00:31:26,152
Concerned, they went
to her apartment.
672
00:31:26,252 --> 00:31:27,486
I did.
It's ringing.
673
00:31:27,586 --> 00:31:28,687
Did you press 2C?
DET.
674
00:31:28,787 --> 00:31:30,222
JOSEPH SURLAK (VOICEOVER):
They located the super
675
00:31:30,322 --> 00:31:32,591
of the apartment building,
and by the use of a pass key,
676
00:31:32,691 --> 00:31:35,227
he allowed them to
enter the apartment.
677
00:31:39,231 --> 00:31:40,699
Judy?
678
00:31:40,799 --> 00:31:42,034
DET.
679
00:31:42,134 --> 00:31:43,535
JOSEPH SURLAK (VOICEOVER):
When they entered the apartment
680
00:31:43,635 --> 00:31:47,906
where she lived, there was
dinner for two on the coffee
681
00:31:48,007 --> 00:31:49,675
table in the living room.
682
00:31:49,775 --> 00:31:50,909
Judy?
DET.
683
00:31:51,010 --> 00:31:52,844
JOSEPH SURLAK: And when they
walked into the bedroom,
684
00:31:52,945 --> 00:31:59,351
they found their daughter
lying on her back in bed
685
00:31:59,451 --> 00:32:00,919
wearing only a half slip.
686
00:32:03,789 --> 00:32:06,358
She had been brutally
beaten about the head
687
00:32:06,458 --> 00:32:10,029
and strangled with
one of her stockings.
688
00:32:10,129 --> 00:32:11,363
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Police believe
689
00:32:11,463 --> 00:32:13,966
that Caputo took
Judith's car, checkbook,
690
00:32:14,066 --> 00:32:15,467
and some of her clothing.
691
00:32:15,567 --> 00:32:18,870
Then he disappeared.
692
00:32:18,971 --> 00:32:21,307
San Francisco, six months later.
693
00:32:21,407 --> 00:32:24,176
Ricardo Caputo had met
another trusting woman.
694
00:32:26,979 --> 00:32:29,315
Barbara Taylor was
a local book editor.
695
00:32:29,415 --> 00:32:31,717
These pictures were taken
by Barbara and Caputo
696
00:32:31,817 --> 00:32:35,287
on a romantic
getaway to Yosemite.
697
00:32:35,387 --> 00:32:39,358
But on March 30, 1975,
Barbara was discovered beaten
698
00:32:39,458 --> 00:32:41,360
to death in her apartment.
699
00:32:41,460 --> 00:32:44,896
Caputo's fingerprints were
found at the scene of the crime.
700
00:32:44,997 --> 00:32:47,266
By the time Barbara's
body was discovered,
701
00:32:47,366 --> 00:32:51,937
Ricardo Caputo was
nowhere to be found.
702
00:32:52,038 --> 00:32:54,406
Five days later, El Paso, Texas.
703
00:32:54,506 --> 00:32:58,044
The search for Ricardo
Caputo took a dramatic turn.
704
00:32:58,144 --> 00:33:00,212
A man calling
himself Ricardo Diaz
705
00:33:00,312 --> 00:33:02,714
was delivered into the
hands of US Immigration
706
00:33:02,814 --> 00:33:04,783
by Mexican authorities.
707
00:33:04,883 --> 00:33:06,052
BYRON V. MACDONALD:
He was turned over
708
00:33:06,152 --> 00:33:10,156
to the custody of US officials,
and he was incarcerated
709
00:33:10,256 --> 00:33:12,358
at the alien detention
facility, which is
710
00:33:12,458 --> 00:33:14,660
located here in El Paso, Texas.
711
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,696
It was actually a lockup there
where he was being detained.
712
00:33:17,796 --> 00:33:19,831
No charges had been
filed against him.
713
00:33:19,931 --> 00:33:21,900
It was just an
administrative thing.
714
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,269
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): At first,
715
00:33:23,369 --> 00:33:27,773
Diaz attracted little attention,
until he was fingerprinted.
716
00:33:27,873 --> 00:33:30,742
He knew then that it would not
take long for his real identity
717
00:33:30,842 --> 00:33:32,578
to be uncovered.
718
00:33:32,678 --> 00:33:35,847
Ricardo Diaz was, in
reality, Ricardo Caputo.
719
00:33:38,984 --> 00:33:43,755
April 7, 1975.
720
00:33:43,855 --> 00:33:46,892
Caputo and three other
detainees took the guard hostage
721
00:33:46,992 --> 00:33:51,097
and picked up makeshift
weapons in the kitchen.
722
00:33:51,197 --> 00:33:55,000
[shouting in spanish]
723
00:33:57,836 --> 00:34:00,472
The men then fled the compound
and crossed the border
724
00:34:00,572 --> 00:34:02,108
into Mexico in a stolen car.
725
00:34:05,644 --> 00:34:09,615
All the men were recaptured
with the exception of Caputo.
726
00:34:09,715 --> 00:34:11,483
His companions
told police Caputo
727
00:34:11,583 --> 00:34:15,287
was headed to Mexico City.
728
00:34:15,387 --> 00:34:17,123
There, he moved
in with a young
729
00:34:17,223 --> 00:34:22,528
21-year-old college student by
the name of Laura Marie Gomez.
730
00:34:22,628 --> 00:34:23,895
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Two years later,
731
00:34:23,995 --> 00:34:27,233
23-year-old Laura Marie
Gomez was found dead
732
00:34:27,333 --> 00:34:30,102
in her Mexico City apartment.
733
00:34:30,202 --> 00:34:34,673
Miss Gomez was found brutally
beaten, stomped to death.
734
00:34:34,773 --> 00:34:38,144
She had been tortured
prior to her death.
735
00:34:38,244 --> 00:34:39,511
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Laura Gomez was
736
00:34:39,611 --> 00:34:41,447
two and 1/2 months pregnant.
737
00:34:41,547 --> 00:34:43,349
Police believe the
killer and the father
738
00:34:43,449 --> 00:34:46,985
were the same man,
Ricardo Caputo.
739
00:34:47,085 --> 00:34:48,120
DET.
740
00:34:48,220 --> 00:34:51,757
JOSEPH SURLAK: Handsome,
charming, intelligent,
741
00:34:51,857 --> 00:34:54,360
has a violent
temper which usually
742
00:34:54,460 --> 00:34:57,363
results in homicidal outbursts.
743
00:34:57,463 --> 00:34:59,698
Since he's done this all
over the United States
744
00:34:59,798 --> 00:35:04,570
and in Mexico, we have to
consider him a serial killer.
745
00:35:04,670 --> 00:35:05,804
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Incredibly,
746
00:35:05,904 --> 00:35:10,209
police believe Ricardo
Caputo has killed again.
747
00:35:10,309 --> 00:35:14,513
On August 2, 1983,
60-year-old Jackie Bernard,
748
00:35:14,613 --> 00:35:16,782
a prominent author
and social activist,
749
00:35:16,882 --> 00:35:18,850
was found murdered,
her throat crushed,
750
00:35:18,950 --> 00:35:22,788
in her West Side
Manhattan apartment.
751
00:35:22,888 --> 00:35:27,293
On January 22, 1985,
a private investigator
752
00:35:27,393 --> 00:35:29,528
hired by Jackie's
family received
753
00:35:29,628 --> 00:35:32,164
an anonymous phone call
identifying Jackie's
754
00:35:32,264 --> 00:35:35,501
killer as Ricardo Caputo.
755
00:35:35,601 --> 00:35:37,569
The caller also
said that Caputo
756
00:35:37,669 --> 00:35:43,842
boasted about killing several
other women and also some men.
757
00:35:43,942 --> 00:35:45,944
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): At
Jackie Bernard's residence,
758
00:35:46,044 --> 00:35:49,114
her superintendent told Gordon
McEwan that he was positive
759
00:35:49,215 --> 00:35:52,251
that he had seen Caputo on the
premises attempting to gain
760
00:35:52,351 --> 00:35:53,952
entry into Jackie's apartment.
761
00:35:54,052 --> 00:35:55,454
Yeah, I know that guy.
762
00:35:55,554 --> 00:35:56,788
GORDON MCEWAN:
The superintendent
763
00:35:56,888 --> 00:36:00,526
was absolutely positive of
his identification of Caputo.
764
00:36:00,626 --> 00:36:04,463
He even added that the
hairline of Caputo's hair
765
00:36:04,563 --> 00:36:06,097
had receded somewhat.
766
00:36:06,198 --> 00:36:08,467
He also informed me
that Caputo spoke
767
00:36:08,567 --> 00:36:11,270
with a South American accent.
768
00:36:11,370 --> 00:36:14,640
He was very positive.
769
00:36:14,740 --> 00:36:17,643
BYRON V. MACDONALD:
Caputo is a chameleon.
770
00:36:17,743 --> 00:36:21,680
He can change his identity,
he can change his looks,
771
00:36:21,780 --> 00:36:24,916
and he can kill and have no
remorse for having killed.
772
00:36:25,016 --> 00:36:26,818
He's a good con artist.
773
00:36:26,918 --> 00:36:29,588
He's a smooth talker.
774
00:36:29,688 --> 00:36:32,291
He could function in probably
just about any situation
775
00:36:32,391 --> 00:36:34,426
he set his mind to go into.
776
00:36:34,526 --> 00:36:35,961
I'd hate to think
that Ricardo will have
777
00:36:36,061 --> 00:36:40,098
the opportunity to do it to
another lady or anybody else,
778
00:36:40,198 --> 00:36:41,433
for that matter.
779
00:36:41,533 --> 00:36:45,771
And I think he'd
be better off dead.
780
00:37:13,365 --> 00:37:14,633
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
When we return,
781
00:37:14,733 --> 00:37:18,169
an eerie tale of bizarre
lights in the Canadian sky and
782
00:37:18,270 --> 00:37:20,071
the woman who has filmed them.
783
00:37:29,915 --> 00:37:32,017
UFO sightings can
usually be explained away
784
00:37:32,117 --> 00:37:35,587
as airplane lights, weather
balloons, military maneuvers,
785
00:37:35,687 --> 00:37:37,489
even mass hysteria.
786
00:37:37,589 --> 00:37:39,758
Sightings sometimes
gain credibility when
787
00:37:39,858 --> 00:37:41,827
they're supported by
photographs which cannot be
788
00:37:41,927 --> 00:37:44,195
written off as obvious hoaxes.
789
00:37:44,296 --> 00:37:46,598
All of these photographs
and thousands like them
790
00:37:46,698 --> 00:37:49,901
have been taken over the
last 16 years in Canada.
791
00:37:50,001 --> 00:37:51,837
They baffle even
the harshest skeptic
792
00:37:51,937 --> 00:37:54,272
and raise two elegantly
simple questions--
793
00:37:54,373 --> 00:37:56,141
how and why?
794
00:38:00,379 --> 00:38:02,080
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Vancouver, British Columbia,
795
00:38:02,180 --> 00:38:04,983
on the Pacific coast of Canada.
796
00:38:05,083 --> 00:38:08,387
For 35 years, this city has
reported an inordinate number
797
00:38:08,487 --> 00:38:10,722
of UFO sightings.
798
00:38:10,822 --> 00:38:12,458
The most frequent
and well-documented
799
00:38:12,558 --> 00:38:14,225
of the sightings have
all been attributed
800
00:38:14,326 --> 00:38:19,998
to one woman, Dorothy Izatt, a
homemaker and mother of four.
801
00:38:20,098 --> 00:38:22,501
Dorothy's first sighting
occurred 16 years ago
802
00:38:22,601 --> 00:38:25,371
on November 9, 1974.
803
00:38:25,471 --> 00:38:27,005
She was 52 years old.
804
00:38:30,709 --> 00:38:33,011
DOROTHY IZATT: I was in
the kitchen fixing myself
805
00:38:33,111 --> 00:38:36,482
a cup of tea, and
I had a sensation
806
00:38:36,582 --> 00:38:43,789
that something was watching me,
a very, very strong feeling.
807
00:38:43,889 --> 00:38:45,957
So I went over to
the window, and here
808
00:38:46,057 --> 00:38:50,028
was this enormous object
sitting up in the sky.
809
00:38:50,128 --> 00:38:52,498
It looked like an
enormous diamond.
810
00:38:52,598 --> 00:38:55,200
It was just flashing and going
around and around and around.
811
00:38:58,236 --> 00:39:00,472
It was so beautiful
to look at that I
812
00:39:00,572 --> 00:39:01,973
thought I was really lifted up.
813
00:39:02,073 --> 00:39:05,544
It was absolutely a
wonderful feeling.
814
00:39:05,644 --> 00:39:06,778
I wasn't afraid
at all, you know.
815
00:39:06,878 --> 00:39:09,448
I was-- I felt really
privileged to be able to see
816
00:39:09,548 --> 00:39:10,348
something like that.
817
00:39:13,218 --> 00:39:14,420
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
At that time,
818
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,287
Dorothy and her family
lived in Richmond,
819
00:39:16,388 --> 00:39:18,690
a modest suburb of Vancouver.
820
00:39:18,790 --> 00:39:22,160
They considered themselves
average working-class people.
821
00:39:22,260 --> 00:39:24,863
Dorothy's husband and children
took her UFO sightings
822
00:39:24,963 --> 00:39:27,633
lightly, almost as a joke.
823
00:39:27,733 --> 00:39:29,635
Their skepticism
motivated Dorothy
824
00:39:29,735 --> 00:39:31,737
to prove that what
she had seen was not
825
00:39:31,837 --> 00:39:33,805
simply a star or an airplane.
826
00:39:37,242 --> 00:39:39,377
DOROTHY IZATT: I said, I must
find some way of communicating
827
00:39:39,478 --> 00:39:41,613
with this thing up there.
828
00:39:41,713 --> 00:39:44,483
So I picked up a flashlight
and said, all right,
829
00:39:44,583 --> 00:39:46,017
whatever I do with
this flashlight,
830
00:39:46,117 --> 00:39:48,887
will you please imitate me?
831
00:39:48,987 --> 00:39:52,858
So I flashed the light
three times to the left,
832
00:39:52,958 --> 00:39:57,062
and this object went
three times to the left.
833
00:39:57,162 --> 00:39:58,930
Then I flashed it three
times to the right,
834
00:39:59,030 --> 00:40:01,299
and the object went
three times to the right.
835
00:40:01,399 --> 00:40:02,801
Then I went three times upwards.
836
00:40:02,901 --> 00:40:04,102
It went three upwards.
837
00:40:04,202 --> 00:40:05,604
Three times downwards, it
went three times downwards.
838
00:40:05,704 --> 00:40:06,672
It was doing everything.
839
00:40:06,772 --> 00:40:09,040
And then zigzagging,
and it went zigzag.
840
00:40:09,140 --> 00:40:10,341
So I said, I'm not
imagining this.
841
00:40:10,442 --> 00:40:11,643
I said, this is
really happening.
842
00:40:11,743 --> 00:40:12,878
So it's intelligent.
843
00:40:15,647 --> 00:40:16,648
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Dorothy
844
00:40:16,748 --> 00:40:17,983
was amazed that
the lights seemed
845
00:40:18,083 --> 00:40:20,318
to be trying to
communicate with her,
846
00:40:20,418 --> 00:40:23,855
so she attempted to
capture them on film.
847
00:40:23,955 --> 00:40:25,657
The results would be startling.
848
00:40:30,962 --> 00:40:34,566
What I saw in the sky was
just round objects of light,
849
00:40:34,666 --> 00:40:36,968
round balls of light.
850
00:40:37,068 --> 00:40:40,472
But what was on the film,
you see the balls of light.
851
00:40:40,572 --> 00:40:42,708
But after a couple of
frames, there would be
852
00:40:42,808 --> 00:40:45,877
this enormous blast of light.
853
00:40:45,977 --> 00:40:47,278
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): This is
854
00:40:47,378 --> 00:40:50,315
actual footage from Dorothy's
Super 8 millimeter home movies.
855
00:40:58,790 --> 00:41:00,826
On her home viewer,
Dorothy inched
856
00:41:00,926 --> 00:41:02,528
the film back and
forth until she
857
00:41:02,628 --> 00:41:05,363
isolated a single bright frame.
858
00:41:05,463 --> 00:41:07,866
What had at first appeared
to be a simple flash of light
859
00:41:07,966 --> 00:41:09,668
was actually a maze
of colored streaks.
860
00:41:12,904 --> 00:41:18,476
Oddly, the light did not spill
over onto adjacent frames.
861
00:41:18,577 --> 00:41:22,447
I noticed that while
I'm filming these objects,
862
00:41:22,548 --> 00:41:23,649
they'll suddenly stop.
863
00:41:23,749 --> 00:41:27,452
And then I'll notice one
object, like, shooting out
864
00:41:27,553 --> 00:41:29,187
a little beam at
the other object,
865
00:41:29,287 --> 00:41:30,656
and then that object
would be shooting
866
00:41:30,756 --> 00:41:31,923
out another beam back at it.
867
00:41:32,023 --> 00:41:34,292
And so I guess it
must be messages
868
00:41:34,392 --> 00:41:35,894
or something that they're
passing back and forth
869
00:41:35,994 --> 00:41:37,328
on these beams of light.
870
00:41:37,428 --> 00:41:38,964
And then when I
get it developed,
871
00:41:39,064 --> 00:41:43,468
I'll find all these strange,
one-frame shots on it.
872
00:41:43,569 --> 00:41:44,803
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Dorothy
873
00:41:44,903 --> 00:41:47,906
had the single frames of film
blown up into photographs.
874
00:41:48,006 --> 00:41:51,509
Bright, kinetic beams
careened in all directions.
875
00:41:51,610 --> 00:41:55,213
She also blew up frames of
the mysterious balls of light.
876
00:41:55,313 --> 00:42:00,485
These photographs began to show
more and more curious details.
877
00:42:00,586 --> 00:42:02,554
Sometimes, they'll
beam a light down at me.
878
00:42:02,654 --> 00:42:06,491
They'll just beam this enormous
light down at me, you know,
879
00:42:06,592 --> 00:42:09,427
and I'll be all lit
up with this light.
880
00:42:09,527 --> 00:42:11,630
I used to ask them to
come closer and closer,
881
00:42:11,730 --> 00:42:13,565
because I wanted better shots.
882
00:42:13,665 --> 00:42:15,934
And they did, you know,
like, come closer and closer.
883
00:42:19,137 --> 00:42:20,305
DR. DU-FAY DERR: I
don't think she's
884
00:42:20,405 --> 00:42:22,641
lying about what she's doing.
885
00:42:22,741 --> 00:42:25,777
I feel that she's quite sincere.
886
00:42:25,877 --> 00:42:29,247
On the other hand, I
am not able to assess
887
00:42:29,347 --> 00:42:31,683
her photographs
professionally, because that's
888
00:42:31,783 --> 00:42:34,586
not part of my expertise.
889
00:42:34,686 --> 00:42:38,857
But her personality makeup
would make me believe that she
890
00:42:38,957 --> 00:42:41,993
is not making things up.
891
00:42:42,093 --> 00:42:43,662
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Like most UFO sightings,
892
00:42:43,762 --> 00:42:46,197
Dorothy's experiences
and her photographs seem
893
00:42:46,297 --> 00:42:49,367
to defy conventional logic.
894
00:42:49,467 --> 00:42:51,737
She says she used three
different cameras.
895
00:42:51,837 --> 00:42:53,471
Each one yielded
similar results.
896
00:42:56,241 --> 00:43:00,511
We asked a photography expert
to evaluate Dorothy's film.
897
00:43:00,612 --> 00:43:03,514
VERN MILLER: I have seen several
similar examples of photography
898
00:43:03,615 --> 00:43:04,650
like this.
899
00:43:04,750 --> 00:43:07,953
Light sources in the sky
with dark backgrounds
900
00:43:08,053 --> 00:43:10,656
are quite easy to manipulate.
901
00:43:10,756 --> 00:43:12,858
But these are more
extraordinary in the sense
902
00:43:12,958 --> 00:43:15,727
that they were done with an
8-millimeter camera, a motion
903
00:43:15,827 --> 00:43:18,229
picture camera, rather
than a still camera,
904
00:43:18,329 --> 00:43:22,200
and they have so many
different types of effects.
905
00:43:22,300 --> 00:43:25,671
And there's images that
I can't explain at all,
906
00:43:25,771 --> 00:43:31,342
explain how the lights got
into the individual frames.
907
00:43:31,442 --> 00:43:33,344
I can suggest ways that
they could have been
908
00:43:33,444 --> 00:43:36,281
put in intentionally,
but no ways
909
00:43:36,381 --> 00:43:40,952
that they could accidentally
have been placed into the film.
910
00:43:41,052 --> 00:43:43,054
I believe that these
images were produced
911
00:43:43,154 --> 00:43:47,325
by a natural occurring
phenomenon in the night sky
912
00:43:47,425 --> 00:43:53,631
and not by extraterrestrial
beings or unexplained objects.
913
00:43:53,732 --> 00:43:55,366
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Despite endless skepticism
914
00:43:55,466 --> 00:43:58,369
from the scientific
community, Dorothy Izatt
915
00:43:58,469 --> 00:43:59,938
has become an
internationally known
916
00:44:00,038 --> 00:44:02,808
figure in the world of UFOs.
917
00:44:02,908 --> 00:44:05,243
As Dorothy's fame
spread, people often
918
00:44:05,343 --> 00:44:07,345
came to visit her in Vancouver.
919
00:44:07,445 --> 00:44:09,347
One of them was Gerry
Mackay, a planning
920
00:44:09,447 --> 00:44:11,316
and marketing consultant.
921
00:44:11,416 --> 00:44:13,051
He had read an
article about Dorothy
922
00:44:13,151 --> 00:44:16,087
and felt strongly that
he had to meet her.
923
00:44:16,187 --> 00:44:18,056
GERRY MACKAY (VOICEOVER): I
was interested enough and moved
924
00:44:18,156 --> 00:44:20,158
enough by that
article that I really
925
00:44:20,258 --> 00:44:22,894
did just want to find out more
for my own interest's sake.
926
00:44:22,994 --> 00:44:25,130
I think it's healthy
to be skeptical,
927
00:44:25,230 --> 00:44:28,666
because I was myself.
928
00:44:28,767 --> 00:44:30,368
I didn't have any
previous experience
929
00:44:30,468 --> 00:44:31,937
with the subject matter at all.
930
00:44:32,037 --> 00:44:34,505
I didn't even realize up until
that point that I had as much
931
00:44:34,605 --> 00:44:38,309
of an interest with it as
it's turned out that I do.
932
00:44:38,409 --> 00:44:40,912
And these are, like,
daytime-type shots.
933
00:44:41,012 --> 00:44:42,047
Or they look like it.
Is it?
934
00:44:42,147 --> 00:44:43,815
Or is it just the type
of lighting or whatever?
935
00:44:43,915 --> 00:44:45,550
Well, I was told
to try and get
936
00:44:45,650 --> 00:44:47,352
some pictures in
the daytime as well,
937
00:44:47,452 --> 00:44:48,754
and that's why I got these.
938
00:44:48,854 --> 00:44:50,355
GERRY MACKAY (VOICEOVER): I was
listening very intently to what
939
00:44:50,455 --> 00:44:53,959
she was saying, at which time
I noticed that I was hearing
940
00:44:54,059 --> 00:44:57,195
some kind of audible
sensing thing that was
941
00:44:57,295 --> 00:44:58,830
happening only in my right ear.
942
00:44:58,930 --> 00:45:01,066
--so that they know it's
solid and it's not just a--
943
00:45:01,166 --> 00:45:02,167
Excuse me, Dorothy.
944
00:45:02,267 --> 00:45:03,501
I-- I don't mean to
interrupt you, but, um,
945
00:45:03,601 --> 00:45:06,004
I'm getting a strange
sensation in my ear here,
946
00:45:06,104 --> 00:45:08,506
so I'm sort of losing
what you're saying.
947
00:45:08,606 --> 00:45:09,841
You can hear that?
948
00:45:09,941 --> 00:45:11,777
And I looked at her,
and I said, yes, I can.
949
00:45:11,877 --> 00:45:13,611
What is it?
950
00:45:13,711 --> 00:45:17,482
And just this
brilliant beam of smile
951
00:45:17,582 --> 00:45:19,650
went from ear to
ear on her face.
952
00:45:19,751 --> 00:45:23,388
And I remember the look that
she gave me, and she said,
953
00:45:23,488 --> 00:45:24,289
they're here.
954
00:45:27,358 --> 00:45:28,659
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Gerry Mackay
955
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,596
was the first person to say he
actually heard the same thing
956
00:45:31,696 --> 00:45:33,198
that Dorothy heard.
957
00:45:33,298 --> 00:45:36,034
[gentle ringing]
958
00:45:36,134 --> 00:45:37,903
GERRY MACKAY (VOICEOVER): I
don't think any more than 15
959
00:45:38,003 --> 00:45:41,306
or 20 seconds went by, and
she said, do you see it?
960
00:45:41,406 --> 00:45:43,942
Do you see it, Gerry?
961
00:45:44,042 --> 00:45:45,510
No, I don't see anything.
962
00:45:45,610 --> 00:45:46,744
Where are you looking?
963
00:45:46,845 --> 00:45:48,713
I'm looking straight ahead
across to Cypress Ball.
964
00:45:48,814 --> 00:45:49,881
GERRY MACKAY: She
goes, no, no, no.
965
00:45:49,981 --> 00:45:53,718
Look over here to
the left where I am.
966
00:45:53,819 --> 00:45:56,454
To my complete
shock and amazement,
967
00:45:56,554 --> 00:45:58,123
what appeared to
be sitting right
968
00:45:58,223 --> 00:46:00,625
out in front of the
window just to our left
969
00:46:00,725 --> 00:46:03,361
was a hard, metallic object.
970
00:46:03,461 --> 00:46:04,996
I remember the feeling
was so intense,
971
00:46:05,096 --> 00:46:06,965
it was like I was
standing in a vacuum
972
00:46:07,065 --> 00:46:10,936
and all my hair was
standing on end.
973
00:46:11,036 --> 00:46:13,905
And as soon as it disappeared,
Dorothy let out a giggle
974
00:46:14,005 --> 00:46:17,742
that was like, there you go.
975
00:46:17,843 --> 00:46:19,945
What do you think of that?
976
00:46:20,045 --> 00:46:22,013
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Gerry
commissioned an artist to draw
977
00:46:22,113 --> 00:46:24,015
what he and Dorothy had seen.
978
00:46:24,115 --> 00:46:26,551
He says he was
completely overwhelmed.
979
00:46:26,651 --> 00:46:29,454
It did not occur to him to
try to photograph the object.
980
00:46:34,893 --> 00:46:37,695
Dorothy has accumulated
more than 25 hours of film
981
00:46:37,795 --> 00:46:41,799
and has had blowups
made of 3,000 frames.
982
00:46:41,900 --> 00:46:45,837
Her enthusiasm remains unabated,
and she continues to film,
983
00:46:45,937 --> 00:46:49,174
hoping that she can one day
decipher the meaning, if any,
984
00:46:49,274 --> 00:46:51,342
of the lights.
985
00:46:51,442 --> 00:46:52,677
DOROTHY IZATT: I feel
there is some sort
986
00:46:52,777 --> 00:46:54,645
of message in there for us.
987
00:46:54,745 --> 00:46:59,017
They're trying to tell us
something from these pictures.
988
00:46:59,117 --> 00:47:00,285
It seems like
they're coming closer
989
00:47:00,385 --> 00:47:03,588
and closer all the time
compared to the first pictures I
990
00:47:03,688 --> 00:47:05,623
used to take.
991
00:47:05,723 --> 00:47:10,328
And each picture now that I'm
getting is far more vivid.
992
00:47:10,428 --> 00:47:11,229
It varies all the time.
993
00:47:17,502 --> 00:47:21,306
My mission is to just
keep filming, I guess,
994
00:47:21,406 --> 00:47:26,244
and receiving these pictures
for as long as I am able to
995
00:47:26,344 --> 00:47:30,048
and hope that one day,
someone or somewhere will
996
00:47:30,148 --> 00:47:31,950
be able to understand
what it's all about.
997
00:47:41,126 --> 00:47:43,728
When "Unsolved Mysteries"
visited Dorothy Izatt's home
998
00:47:43,828 --> 00:47:46,131
in Vancouver, she told
us the lights were there,
999
00:47:46,231 --> 00:47:49,134
and she filmed them with her
Super 8-millimeter camera.
1000
00:47:49,234 --> 00:47:51,236
We could not see the
lights, but our cameraman
1001
00:47:51,336 --> 00:47:53,438
attempted to film them anyway.
1002
00:47:53,538 --> 00:47:56,241
He also asked Dorothy
to operate his camera.
1003
00:47:56,341 --> 00:47:58,476
The film from Dorothy's
8-millimeter camera
1004
00:47:58,576 --> 00:48:01,046
showed the usual
brilliant light patterns.
1005
00:48:01,146 --> 00:48:02,647
When we developed
our film, we did
1006
00:48:02,747 --> 00:48:06,051
find one tiny unidentifiable
light in the sky,
1007
00:48:06,151 --> 00:48:08,119
but it exhibited none
of the characteristics
1008
00:48:08,219 --> 00:48:10,188
seen in Dorothy's photographs.
1009
00:48:18,896 --> 00:48:21,332
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Next
week on "Unsolved Mysteries,"
1010
00:48:21,432 --> 00:48:24,669
in 1986, the body of
28-year-old Debbie Wolfe
1011
00:48:24,769 --> 00:48:26,637
was found in an
oil drum submerged
1012
00:48:26,737 --> 00:48:30,441
in the icy waters of a pond near
Fayetteville, North Carolina.
1013
00:48:30,541 --> 00:48:32,777
The police ruled it
accidental drowning.
1014
00:48:32,877 --> 00:48:36,114
The family says it was murder.
1015
00:48:36,214 --> 00:48:39,850
80 years ago, Conradina Olsen
boarded a train in Wisconsin
1016
00:48:39,951 --> 00:48:41,819
and was never seen again.
1017
00:48:41,919 --> 00:48:44,922
Her granddaughter will not
rest until she finds an answer.
1018
00:48:45,023 --> 00:48:50,161
Did Conradina simply run
away, or was she murdered?
1019
00:48:50,261 --> 00:48:51,963
We'll also bring
you a dramatic update
1020
00:48:52,063 --> 00:48:53,831
on our recent story
of a female prison
1021
00:48:53,931 --> 00:48:55,533
guard who fell in
love with a convict
1022
00:48:55,633 --> 00:48:57,902
and allegedly helped him escape.
1023
00:48:58,003 --> 00:49:00,271
Join me next week
for another edition
1024
00:49:00,371 --> 00:49:02,640
of "Unsolved Mysteries."
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00:49:02,740 --> 00:49:06,277
[theme music]
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