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NARRATOR: This program is
about unsolved mysteries.
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Whenever possible, the
actual family members
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and police officials
have participated
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in recreating the events.
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What you are about to see
is not a news broadcast.
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[music playing]
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
In Rome, New York two
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intruders bound and
gagged Esther Gryzeic,
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ransacked her house, and
shot her husband point blank.
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Just recently, a
police informant
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revealed that Stanley Gryzeic
may have died because he
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was a man who knew too much.
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The FBI is searching for
an electronics whiz kid who
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allegedly used his
talents to break
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into classified government
computer networks,
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obtain military secrets,
and wiretap private.
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An innocuous case of
computer hacking or a breach
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of national security?
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Also tonight, a
poignant update a story
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about a 7-year-old girl who made
a solemn vow to her sick friend
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21 years ago.
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Thanks to our
viewers, Niki Crowder
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has finally
fulfilled her promise
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and we filmed their
joyous reunion.
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Join me for another edition
of Unsolved Mysteries.
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[music playing]
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Rome,
New York, 240 miles northwest
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of Manhattan.
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This is the kind of small
town that finds its way
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into Norman Rockwell paintings.
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It is a working class
community where everybody
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knows everything
about everyone else,
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or at least it seemed that way.
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Bob, how are you?
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Stanley, so nice to see you.
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Haven't seen you in so long.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
In 1957 to 1976,
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Stanley Gryzeic and
his family owned
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a small liquor store and gas
station in the heart of town.
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Stanley was in charge
of the liquor store.
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His brother Peter ran
the gas station along
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with a third brother Bernard.
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Stanley and his wife Esther
lived right next door
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to the family business.
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Their life seemed happy
and secure until the night
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of November 6th, 1976.
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SHARON MIGLIACCIO (VOICEOVER):
Dad had just gone upstairs
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to run Mom's bathwater.
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Mom went through the house
doing her nightly check.
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She did a nightly ritual
where she would go and check
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all the windows and doors
and make sure everything
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was locked.
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My mother was deaf, and
she wore a hearing aid.
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With the hearing aid,
she could hear very well.
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And she had just
finished in the kitchen
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when she heard a loud noise.
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[thump]
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And as she turned around,
the back door just flew open.
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[scream]
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This is a robbery!
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[grunting, screaming]
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Two men came into the house.
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They both had ski masks.
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One was short and stocky and
one was tall and thinner.
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I think my father probably heard
the initial noise of the screen
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door being broken and
heard my mother scream,
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and then came down the stairs.
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[music playing]
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As he turned to go
into the dining room,
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I think he startled
the perpetrator.
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[grunting]
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Hey, give me that!
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SHARON MIGLIACCIO (VOICEOVER):
The shorter, stockier man
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was already at my mother's
throat and was choking her
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and, in the process, knocked
her hearing aid out of her ear.
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And she said she
just played dead.
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She just wouldn't move.
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She just laid there.
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She tried to hold her breath
so they thought she died.
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[music playing]
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SHARON MIGLIACCIO (VOICEOVER):
While she was laying
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on the floor, she said
they laid this pearl
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handled gun next to my face.
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She says, I could see it.
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I opened my eyes just a little
tiny bit and I could see.
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[music playing]
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They spent a good
hour in the house
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just ransacking it totally.
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They took all the
stuff out of the desk,
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threw everything on the floors.
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The pillows they ripped.
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Mom's knitting and her
yarn, they threw all over.
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I mean, they obviously
were looking for something,
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but what they were looking
for, I have no idea.
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[music playing]
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She said, I just waited there
until I could feel no more
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vibrations in the house.
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She figures that that
is when they left.
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[crying]
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Somehow, she managed to get
her hands untied from her feet
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and her feet untied.
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Her hands were still
tied behind her back,
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but she did manage to
go into the dining room
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and find my dad laying
on the floor dead.
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Oh, God!
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[police scanner]
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): The shock
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of her husband's murder was
too much for Esther Gryzeic.
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She herself died
within two years.
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SHARON MIGLIACCIO (VOICEOVER):
My mother, you could say,
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died that night.
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She just existed for
the next 20 months.
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Her and my father had one of
those rare marriages where they
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were extremely close,
and without dad, I mean,
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her life was gone.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
From the beginning,
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a cloud of suspicion loomed
over the investigation
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of Stanley Gryzeic's murder.
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The night of the killing,
police barred the family
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from entering the home.
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After thoroughly searching
the ransacked house,
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investigators determined
that the only things
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missing were two bottles of
beer from the refrigerator.
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But it appeared
to investigators
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as if the ransacking was to
look for an item, possibly,
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or a piece of paper
that Mr. Gryzeic
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may have had hidden somewhere.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The next day,
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the family was finally
permitted to enter the home.
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Stanley's son made a disturbing
discovery, which, curiously,
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the police had overlooked.
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My brother-in-law and myself
were in the house, and we were
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trying to straighten things up.
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I was in the dining room where
my father had been killed,
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and the rug was kind of messed
up from the table being pushed,
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so we got down on
our hands and knees
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and tried to
straighten the rug out.
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Hey, come here.
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Look at this.
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MARTIN GRYZIEC (VOICEOVER):
While I was doing that,
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I happened to notice a
shell casing on the rug.
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I mean, it wasn't embedded
in the rug or anything.
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It was lying right
out on the rug.
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Well, it's a shell casing.
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Don't touch it.
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I'm sure that if
anybody had done
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a thorough job of
scouring the floor,
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they would have found it.
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We picked it up with a pencil,
put it in a plastic bag,
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and called up the Rome
police department.
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One detective came over and
I showed him where I found it
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on the floor, and he
looked at it, yeah,
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that's a shell
casing, all right.
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And he proceeded to
put it in his pock
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and said, let's not mention this
to anyone for the time being.
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And who was I to argue?
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There's a wound here
in the lateral aspect
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of the left chest.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The official autopsy report
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stated that Stanley Gryzeic
been killed by a single stab
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wound to the heart.
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--extremities are symmetrical.
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SHARON MIGLIACCIO (VOICEOVER):
I couldn't believe the police
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kept insisting that it was a
knife that killed my father,
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and my mother
repeatedly told them
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it was a pearl handled gun.
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It was a small gun.
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She told me they laid it
right down next to my face.
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She says, I could see.
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It was not a knife, and they
kept insisting it was a knife.
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While we knew that
was totally false
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that my father had been
killed by a stab wound,
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we had found a shell casing.
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We explained to the police that
there was no guns in the house.
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The only way that shell
could have got here
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was that it was
fired in this house.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Stanley
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Gryzeic's body was exhumed and
a second autopsy performed.
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It revealed that Stanley
was killed by a .25 caliber
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bullet fired through his chest.
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There never had
been a stab wound.
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Was the entire incident
involving the bullet simply
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a series of
unfortunate mistakes,
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or could someone have
been trying to protect
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the killer's identity?
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Stanley Gryzeic's children
believe that someone wanted
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it to appear that their father
had been killed with a knife,
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but who?
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And why?
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It seemed that these
questions would remain forever
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unanswered until last year.
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In March of 1989, an
acknowledged drug dealer
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came to the police
with a startling story.
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He claimed to know the identity
of Stanley Gryzeic's killer,
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although he did not
know the motive.
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In 1976, the informant was
working at a bar in Rome.
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He claimed that a man
associated with the bar
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made him a strange proposition
just a few days before Stanley
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Gryzeic was killed.
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I was tending bar
one night, and a person
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approached me and wanted
me to pull a burglary.
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He knew that I owed him money,
and he offered me to get even.
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So, we drove around for a little
bit, and he pulled in an alley
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here, and he goes, I want you
to break into Stan's house.
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MAN: You owe me a lot of money.
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You owe me a lot of money.
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The guy's got a lot of
money in that house.
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I want you to go rip him off.
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Why Stanley?
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MAN: That's my business.
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INFORMANT (VOICEOVER):
I told him I go,
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well, I'm not a burglar.
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I go, I'm out here selling coke,
but I'm just not a burglar.
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I'm not going to go breaking
in to anybody's house.
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And so he was disturbed
with me, and he goes,
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all right, I'll take
you back to the bar.
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As you can see As
you can see here,
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this is the service station
that's adjacent to the house.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Based on this new information,
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the case was reactivated
and a new team
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of investigators assigned.
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MAN: --behind here
comes out to the side.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
They contacted
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Amy Scott, Stanley
Gryzeic's neighbor
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at the time of the murder.
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On November 6, 1976,
Amy Scott said she
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was in the house watching TV.
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And at the conclusion
of one of the programs,
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her dog had become restless
and she let him out to run
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around a little bit outside.
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[dog barking]
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Amy told investigators
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that shortly after
11:00 PM, she saw
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a man walking through the alley
toward Stanley Gryzeic's home.
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I let my dog stay out maybe
a half an hour to 45 minutes,
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and then I open the door.
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I went on my porch to
call my dog back in.
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Sam!
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Then I looked up and
I saw this guy coming
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through the same
pathway that I noticed
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before, only this time he was
headed toward a white car.
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He got in the car, and
then I noticed there
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was another man in the car.
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And he proceeded down
the street very fast.
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[tires squealing]
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You idiots!
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What do think you're doing?
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And I yelled at him because
he just came within inches
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of hitting my dog.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): A
few days after the murder,
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Amy saw the men in
the Lincoln again.
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AMY SCOTT (VOICEOVER):
It was around 5 o'clock,
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and I was headed to the bank.
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As I drove in, there
was two cars ahead of me
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and I was waiting,
and I just happened
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to look through my
rear view mirror,
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and I saw this white car.
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And suddenly I realized
this was the same man,
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the same car, that I had seen
earlier at the murder scene.
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I got really nervous,
so I started my car
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and I speeded down the street.
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[music playing]
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I was really afraid.
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I just drove like crazy until
I got to the police station
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and I jumped out of the car.
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[music playing]
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And I ran up the steps,
where I met a policeman,
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and I told him
what was happening.
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We got in his car and we drove
around a couple of blocks
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up and down, but we
never saw him again.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Amy
led the investigators to Patsy
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Peck, a local bookstore owner.
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Patsy told him that on the
day before Gryzeic's murder,
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she had met the same
two men at her store.
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[interposing voices]
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She also said they were driving
a white Lincoln Continental.
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Hey guys, how are you doing?
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Good.
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- Good to see you again.
- Thanks.
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How are you?
- Good.
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What are you doing
down here anyway?
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PATSY PECK
(VOICEOVER): There was
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the tall, dark man who
had on a trench coat
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and it had a nylon pile collar.
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The other man was
shorter and sandy haired,
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and they'd been out
of town for a while,
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and hadn't seen my husband
in quite a long while.
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- See you later.
- OK, good seeing you again.
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PATSY PECK: Thanks.
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Then they started reminiscing
a little about when they
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were here before and all that.
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All right.
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You know where we live,
we're still in the same place.
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PATSY PECK (VOICEOVER):
And they told him
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they'd see again before
they left, and they left.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Investigators
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asked Patsy why she had not come
forward with this information
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before.
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Surprisingly, she said
she had talked with one
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of the original detectives.
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--store on November the 4th.
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JOHN KEYS (VOICEOVER): We do
know that the investigators
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talked to Patsy and Amy,
but we looked in our files
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and found that there
wasn't anything put
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down on documentation form as
to their interview with Patsy
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Peck.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Investigators Saunders and Keys
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learned that shortly after
Stanley Gryzeic's murder,
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the same two men were
spotted at a local bar.
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We located a man that was
in the bar about two or three
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nights after the murder.
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Everything all right?
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Yep.
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Just what you wanted.
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ROBERT SAUNDERS (VOICEOVER):
He told us that a couple of men
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had come into the bar
matching the descriptions that
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were published in the paper.
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They met with another
man in the back
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of the bar who handed
them a large sum of money,
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and they turned and left.
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He was kind of curious, so he
said, wasn't that so-and-so?
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And the individual who
had given him the money
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said, yes, that was.
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And he said, well,
why did you give
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him that large amount of money?
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And he said they
done a job for me
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and now they had to leave town.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Authorities
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began searching for a connection
between Stanley Gryzeic's
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murder and the bar where
the informant had worked
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and the two men had been seen.
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They discovered that
the bar's liquor
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license had been held
by Peter Gryzeic,
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Stanley's older brother.
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Then Stanley's children
related a puzzling incident
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that had occurred eight
months before the murder.
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Peter Gryzeic was gravely ill
and Stanley went to visit him.
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Close the door, will you?
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Close the door.
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Close the door?
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): No one knows
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what was said behind
that closed door,
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but the two brothers, who
had always been close,
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never spoke again.
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Peter died four months
later, and Stanley's behavior
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seemed to change.
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PATRICIA COUSIN (VOICEOVER):
I had a three-day weekend
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with my dad.
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He seemed in a good mood, but
he seemed a little distant.
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When he hugged me goodbye,
he said a very strange thing.
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I don't know when I'll
ever see you again.
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And that was the last
time I saw him again.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The
bar in question had its liquor
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license revoked in 1982.
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The reason?
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On-site gambling and the illegal
sale of controlled substances.
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Today, the bar remains closed.
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PATRICIA COUSIN
(VOICEOVER): I think
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he knew that there was
a great deal of drug
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activity happening in that bar.
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Gambling, it happens
almost everywhere.
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I think people learn
to adjust to that.
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But the drug situation,
I know that my father
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would never be able to condone
or have his name linked to it.
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[music playing]
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Why
was Stanley Gryzeic murdered?
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Had he learned something
from his dying brother
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that put his own life at risk?
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If my father
knew something, he
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did not share that information
with my mother, my brother,
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my sister, or I. It
was just something
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that he kept to himself.
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And that was why being honest as
he was the cause of his death.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Why did Stanley's assailants
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ransack his home, remain
in the house for 45 minutes
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to an hour, and then leave,
apparently taking only two
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beers from the refrigerator?
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And finally, is
there a connection
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between the bar, Peter
Gryzeic, and Stanley's death?
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Although crucial
evidence in the case
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has mysteriously
disappeared, investigators
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believe that it may
take but one vital clue
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to piece together
the bizarre puzzle
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of Stanley Gryzeic's murder.
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These are composite drawings
of the two men seen driving
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that white Lincoln Continental.
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Authorities are asking anyone
with information regarding
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these men to come forward.
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[music playing]
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WOMAN: Oh!
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Traveled all over the country.
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WOMAN: Well, how about--
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
On a previous broadcast,
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we profiled a con
man who allegedly
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seduces lonely middle-aged
women with promises
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of wealth and romance, then
skips town with her money.
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Police have dubbed him
the sweetheart swindler.
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[music playing]
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In August of 1989, a woman who
asked that we call her Sarah
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met a man named Jerry Gable.
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Sarah quickly succumbed to
Jerry's hypnotic charms.
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He told her that he was a
successful traveling jewelry
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salesman, and that she was
just the type of a woman he
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wanted to share his life with.
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In less than two days, Jerry
asked Sarah to be his wife.
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He was a type of a
man that took control.
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This was something that I liked.
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I like someone to kind of
take over, take charge.
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And it was really nice
to think that I maybe
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would be able to
relax, to travel,
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to have all these nice things,
and I wouldn't have to work.
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To me this was very appealing.
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[music playing]
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): A few days
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later, Jerry asked Sarah
to deposit an out-of-state
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and to withdraw $3,000
in cash for him.
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At the time, Sarah had no idea
that the check was stolen.
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That afternoon, Jerry
Gable disappeared.
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Sarah never saw him
or her $3,000 again.
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I was angry.
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Truly, I was angry.
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It's a very devastating feeling.
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I'd like to see him pay for it.
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[music playing]
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Update.
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The sweetheart swindler
has been captured.
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On March 28th, 1991, police
in Kenosha, Wisconsin
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arrested a man calling
himself Robert Cook
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after he allegedly romanced a
woman and then swindled her out
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of $10,000.
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At the time of
Cook's arrest, police
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recovered a dozen
false identification
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cards all issued in different
aliases from various states.
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They also found blank
checks apparently
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stolen from previous victims.
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[music playing]
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When we return, the intriguing
saga of a young computer
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wizard who may be
using his skills
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to obtain classified
government information.
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[music playing]
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Inside the labyrinth
of the telephone
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company's huge computer
system, one feels
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a sense of insignificance.
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00:21:12,905 --> 00:21:15,274
It seems impossible
that any single person
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could jam up these sophisticated
works, yet think of it.
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All the interactive
computers across the country
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are linked by telephone lines.
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00:21:24,784 --> 00:21:27,053
Both private citizens
and classified government
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operations can be vulnerable
to a computer genius run amok.
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[music playing]
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Kevin Poulsen grew
up in the Los Angeles
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suburb of North Hollywood.
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His mother died when
he was still young.
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One of Kevin's
friends describes him
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as very bright with
great potential,
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but always painfully shy.
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[music playing]
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Kevin Poulsen received his first
computer on the 16th birthday.
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Like most devoted hackers, he
adopted a colorful pseudonym.
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Kevin Poulsen became Dark Dante.
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00:22:04,957 --> 00:22:08,094
[music playing]
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Eventually, he
discovered a telephone
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number for ARPANET, a computer
network funded by the Pentagon.
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It links university and
think tank computers across
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the country by telephone lines.
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For Dark Dante, ARPANET was
a tantalizing challenge.
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After connecting his modem with
the ARPANET telephone number,
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Kevin realized he was hooked
up to military research
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at the University of
California Berkeley.
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[music playing]
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He needed a password
that would allow
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him access to
sensitive documents
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in the Berkeley computer.
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He guessed several
passwords with no luck.
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[music playing]
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Then he tried the
university's initials, UCB.
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Kevin was inside ARPANET.
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[music playing]
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SEAN RANDOL (VOICEOVER): He
liked the idea of having power.
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That was Kevin's thing.
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He wanted to have power
over other people,
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over the people that he
saw as being beneath him.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Dark Dante's activities
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were soon detected by UCB,
when Kevin slipped and, on one
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occasion only, used his real
name instead of Dark Dante
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he was trapped.
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Blissfully unaware, Kevin
continued his hacking
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activities, giving
authorities even
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more ammunition against him.
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00:23:32,111 --> 00:23:34,046
Dan, would you just put
that in my car, please.
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Well, you're
taking my computer?
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Yes, Kevin.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
On the morning
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of September 22nd,
1983, the Los Angeles DA
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00:23:40,252 --> 00:23:41,921
confiscated Kevin's computer.
- I don't understand why.
496
00:23:42,021 --> 00:23:43,055
Look, Kevin.
497
00:23:43,155 --> 00:23:44,991
You and your buddy have
committed a crime here.
498
00:23:45,091 --> 00:23:46,125
You're only 17.
499
00:23:46,225 --> 00:23:47,326
We're going to try to
keep you out of this,
500
00:23:47,426 --> 00:23:48,495
but your buddy's going to jail.
501
00:23:48,595 --> 00:23:49,896
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Because of his age,
502
00:23:49,996 --> 00:23:52,499
he was not officially charged,
only warned that his computer
503
00:23:52,599 --> 00:23:53,966
activities were illegal.
504
00:23:54,066 --> 00:23:54,967
Your buddy is going to jail.
505
00:23:55,067 --> 00:23:55,802
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): The warning
506
00:23:55,902 --> 00:23:56,936
apparently fell on deaf ears.
507
00:23:57,036 --> 00:23:58,004
It's not like we were
stealing or anything.
508
00:23:58,104 --> 00:23:59,371
No, it's exactly
like you were stealing.
509
00:23:59,472 --> 00:24:00,940
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
During the next year,
510
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,375
Kevin took a high
school equivalency exam
511
00:24:03,476 --> 00:24:06,312
and moved out of his parents'
house to northern California.
512
00:24:06,412 --> 00:24:09,749
[music playing]
513
00:24:09,849 --> 00:24:12,519
But Dark Dante had not
died with Kevin's move.
514
00:24:12,619 --> 00:24:15,688
He had simply changed locations.
515
00:24:15,788 --> 00:24:18,024
In his off hours,
Kevin Poulsen continued
516
00:24:18,124 --> 00:24:19,792
to cruise the
electronic highways,
517
00:24:19,892 --> 00:24:22,094
cloaked with a pseudonym.
518
00:24:22,194 --> 00:24:25,297
This time, he never gave his
real name or his location.
519
00:24:25,397 --> 00:24:28,535
[music playing]
520
00:24:31,437 --> 00:24:35,307
On February 9th, 1988, the
owners of a storage facility
521
00:24:35,407 --> 00:24:37,610
in northern California
made a routine stop
522
00:24:37,710 --> 00:24:40,980
at a locker of which the
rent had not been paid.
523
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,349
MAN: There we go.
524
00:24:43,449 --> 00:24:44,483
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Standard
525
00:24:44,584 --> 00:24:46,686
procedure in such
cases is to confiscate
526
00:24:46,786 --> 00:24:47,820
the material in the locker.
527
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,188
Whoa!
528
00:24:49,288 --> 00:24:50,623
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): But
the contents of this locker
529
00:24:50,723 --> 00:24:53,159
was something the men
had never seen before.
530
00:24:53,259 --> 00:24:56,629
It appeared to be stolen
telephone company equipment.
531
00:24:56,729 --> 00:24:58,831
The owners notify
the authorities.
532
00:24:59,866 --> 00:25:00,667
MAN: He's no scumbag.
533
00:25:00,767 --> 00:25:02,001
MAN 2: He's not stupid.
534
00:25:02,101 --> 00:25:03,570
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Telephone company investigator
535
00:25:03,670 --> 00:25:06,105
Jon von Brauch, along
with the local police,
536
00:25:06,205 --> 00:25:07,874
arrived immediately.
- Jon von Brauch.
537
00:25:07,974 --> 00:25:08,808
Hi, Jon.
How are you?
538
00:25:08,908 --> 00:25:09,709
All right.
539
00:25:11,210 --> 00:25:12,579
JON VON BRAUCH (VOICEOVER): We
found by a storage locker that
540
00:25:12,679 --> 00:25:16,949
contained pieces of electronic
equipment, pay phones, computer
541
00:25:17,049 --> 00:25:19,552
print outs, including
the print out
542
00:25:19,652 --> 00:25:21,588
of the non-published
number of the Soviet
543
00:25:21,688 --> 00:25:24,256
Embassy in San Francisco.
544
00:25:24,356 --> 00:25:27,159
That's not the type of
equipment or material
545
00:25:27,259 --> 00:25:30,863
that one would buy at a swap
meet or find in a dumpster.
546
00:25:30,963 --> 00:25:33,666
It was quite obviously
stolen property.
547
00:25:33,766 --> 00:25:34,701
Whose locker is this?
548
00:25:34,801 --> 00:25:36,969
Some guy by the
name of John Anderson.
549
00:25:37,069 --> 00:25:39,672
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The
name John Anderson was a fake.
550
00:25:39,772 --> 00:25:43,475
But several items in the locker
bore the name Kevin Poulsen.
551
00:25:43,576 --> 00:25:46,312
It appeared as if Dark
Dante had been caught again.
552
00:25:51,550 --> 00:25:54,286
Authorities apprehended
Kevin, who agreed to a consent
553
00:25:54,386 --> 00:25:56,956
search of his apartment.
554
00:25:57,056 --> 00:25:58,758
They were astonished
to find that Kevin
555
00:25:58,858 --> 00:26:01,894
had a complete wiretapping
facility in a spare bedroom.
556
00:26:01,994 --> 00:26:04,697
What are you doing with
all this stuff, Kevin?
557
00:26:04,797 --> 00:26:06,498
I don't know, I just have it.
558
00:26:06,599 --> 00:26:08,000
I just kind of get it.
It's neat.
559
00:26:08,100 --> 00:26:10,002
JON VON BRAUCH (VOICEOVER): The
equipment in the switch room
560
00:26:10,102 --> 00:26:14,974
allowed to Mr. Poulsen not only
to enter computer databases,
561
00:26:15,074 --> 00:26:19,679
ours and others, but it also
gave him the ability to monitor
562
00:26:19,779 --> 00:26:23,249
telephone conversations without
the parties to the conversation
563
00:26:23,349 --> 00:26:26,653
being aware that they
were being monitored.
564
00:26:26,753 --> 00:26:29,588
How about the test set over
there with the lettering on it?
565
00:26:29,689 --> 00:26:31,423
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Connected to Kevin's computer
566
00:26:31,523 --> 00:26:34,661
was an unauthorized test set
which could be used to tap
567
00:26:34,761 --> 00:26:36,028
into private phone lines.
568
00:26:36,128 --> 00:26:36,929
I don't know.
569
00:26:37,029 --> 00:26:38,230
I got that from a buddy of mine.
570
00:26:38,330 --> 00:26:39,832
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Only the telephone company,
571
00:26:39,932 --> 00:26:41,233
and through them,
legally authorized
572
00:26:41,333 --> 00:26:45,071
law enforcement officers,
are allowed to use test sets.
573
00:26:45,171 --> 00:26:47,039
[music playing]
574
00:26:47,139 --> 00:26:50,342
Incredibly, the authorities
found photographs Kevin Poulsen
575
00:26:50,442 --> 00:26:52,879
had taken of himself
breaking into a telephone
576
00:26:52,979 --> 00:26:56,448
switching trailer, then
using the equipment inside.
577
00:26:56,548 --> 00:26:59,585
Kevin's ego provided the phone
company with the evidence they
578
00:26:59,686 --> 00:27:02,154
needed to bring in the FBI.
579
00:27:02,254 --> 00:27:03,589
WILLIAM E. SMITH
(VOICEOVER): We determined
580
00:27:03,690 --> 00:27:08,527
that the acts that Poulsen
was involved in had escalated.
581
00:27:08,627 --> 00:27:12,431
We found evidence that Poulsen
had penetrated the United
582
00:27:12,531 --> 00:27:16,068
States government computer,
and had transferred
583
00:27:16,168 --> 00:27:19,338
the passwords of that
computer, via electronic mail,
584
00:27:19,438 --> 00:27:21,941
to other individuals.
585
00:27:22,041 --> 00:27:23,876
[music playing]
586
00:27:23,976 --> 00:27:25,177
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Investigators
587
00:27:25,277 --> 00:27:27,747
found that over the last
year, someone matching
588
00:27:27,847 --> 00:27:30,082
Kevin Poulsen's
description had illegally
589
00:27:30,182 --> 00:27:32,418
entered several northern
California telephone
590
00:27:32,518 --> 00:27:34,420
facilities using a false ID.
591
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:35,788
[dog barking]
592
00:27:35,888 --> 00:27:37,656
We discovered
that Mr. Poulsen,
593
00:27:37,757 --> 00:27:41,928
and we documented at least
three cases, where he had
594
00:27:42,028 --> 00:27:45,397
actually entered the buildings.
595
00:27:45,497 --> 00:27:46,298
Hi.
596
00:27:46,398 --> 00:27:47,199
Can I help you?
597
00:27:47,299 --> 00:27:48,100
Yeah.
598
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,469
I'm from the Menlo Park office.
599
00:27:50,569 --> 00:27:52,705
I'm here to check out the ESS.
600
00:27:52,805 --> 00:27:55,274
The ESS equipment is
up on the second floor.
601
00:27:55,374 --> 00:27:56,876
[typing]
602
00:27:56,976 --> 00:27:58,577
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Once inside the building,
603
00:27:58,677 --> 00:28:00,279
the intruder found
telephone numbers
604
00:28:00,379 --> 00:28:01,914
he could use to get
inside the phone
605
00:28:02,014 --> 00:28:03,282
company's computer system.
606
00:28:06,552 --> 00:28:08,788
He also stole manuals,
switching equipment,
607
00:28:08,888 --> 00:28:10,422
and a test set
like the one found
608
00:28:10,522 --> 00:28:12,491
in Kevin Poulsen's apartment.
609
00:28:15,928 --> 00:28:18,230
[music playing]
610
00:28:18,330 --> 00:28:20,399
Kevin Poulsen had
allegedly infiltrated
611
00:28:20,499 --> 00:28:23,135
US military computer
transmissions obtaining
612
00:28:23,235 --> 00:28:26,438
classified army information.
613
00:28:26,538 --> 00:28:29,308
Authorities believe he also
obtained classified information
614
00:28:29,408 --> 00:28:32,144
about the FBI investigation
of overthrowing Philippine
615
00:28:32,244 --> 00:28:35,882
President Ferdinand Marcos.
616
00:28:35,982 --> 00:28:38,317
In addition, he may
have wiretapped and tape
617
00:28:38,417 --> 00:28:44,123
recorded phone conversations
of his friend Sean Randol.
618
00:28:44,223 --> 00:28:47,193
The test set found in Kevin's
apartment and his possession
619
00:28:47,293 --> 00:28:49,228
of the unlisted
Soviet number led
620
00:28:49,328 --> 00:28:51,597
the FBI to believe
that Kevin Poulsen
621
00:28:51,697 --> 00:28:53,732
might be engaging in espionage.
622
00:28:53,833 --> 00:28:55,067
[music playing]
623
00:28:55,167 --> 00:28:56,803
WILLIAM E. SMITH (VOICEOVER):
Through the investigation,
624
00:28:56,903 --> 00:29:01,273
we learned that Poulsen
had a secret clearance.
625
00:29:01,373 --> 00:29:04,743
Because of this, his penetration
of the United States Army
626
00:29:04,844 --> 00:29:07,446
government computer,
his obtaining
627
00:29:07,546 --> 00:29:10,216
of a non-published number
of the Soviet consulate,
628
00:29:10,316 --> 00:29:14,753
gave us grave concern as
to how far Poulsen was
629
00:29:14,854 --> 00:29:17,423
going with these criminal acts.
630
00:29:18,825 --> 00:29:21,027
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
On October 19th, 1989,
631
00:29:21,127 --> 00:29:22,995
a two-year
investigation resulted
632
00:29:23,095 --> 00:29:25,197
in a 19-count
indictment against Kevin
633
00:29:25,297 --> 00:29:27,867
Poulsen and two fellow hackers.
634
00:29:27,967 --> 00:29:30,569
They were charged with
conspiracy, computer fraud,
635
00:29:30,669 --> 00:29:32,738
wiretapping,
embezzlement, and theft
636
00:29:32,839 --> 00:29:36,608
of public property and records.
637
00:29:36,708 --> 00:29:40,312
The two other men were
arrested and now await trial,
638
00:29:40,412 --> 00:29:42,214
but Kevin Poulsen has fled.
639
00:29:44,884 --> 00:29:47,286
The FBI is making him out
to be a dangerous person
640
00:29:47,386 --> 00:29:49,488
because he has the
knowledge to do things
641
00:29:49,588 --> 00:29:52,124
that he is not supposed to do.
642
00:29:52,224 --> 00:29:56,395
And he does things
that are illegal.
643
00:29:56,495 --> 00:29:59,932
But as far as
hurting people goes,
644
00:30:00,032 --> 00:30:04,270
Kevin is the kind of person
who would rather know how to do
645
00:30:04,370 --> 00:30:06,605
things than actually do them.
646
00:30:06,705 --> 00:30:08,340
[music playing]
647
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:09,575
WILLIAM E. SMITH
(VOICEOVER): We feel
648
00:30:09,675 --> 00:30:12,478
that Poulsen probably
started out as he hacker,
649
00:30:12,578 --> 00:30:14,013
because of curiosity.
650
00:30:14,113 --> 00:30:20,452
But as the years wore on, his
curiosity became unsatisfied.
651
00:30:20,552 --> 00:30:22,889
He crossed the line
from mere curiosity
652
00:30:22,989 --> 00:30:25,657
to that in of
intentionally committing
653
00:30:25,757 --> 00:30:29,795
criminal acts to further
this quest for power.
654
00:30:29,896 --> 00:30:31,864
That gives us concern.
655
00:30:31,964 --> 00:30:34,633
Law enforcement government,
or even private citizens
656
00:30:34,733 --> 00:30:38,504
out there, Poulsen certainly
has a potential to be a danger
657
00:30:38,604 --> 00:30:39,906
to any one of these three.
658
00:30:42,341 --> 00:30:43,609
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Kevin Poulsen
659
00:30:43,709 --> 00:30:48,847
is 25 years old and 5 feet 8
inches tall with a slim build.
660
00:30:48,948 --> 00:30:51,417
He has used the
surnames Drake, Locke,
661
00:30:51,517 --> 00:30:53,953
and Cooper, as well
as the aliases Walter
662
00:30:54,053 --> 00:30:56,688
Kovacs and John Anderson.
663
00:30:56,788 --> 00:30:58,657
The FBI has information
that Poulsen
664
00:30:58,757 --> 00:31:00,726
may be living in
the Los Angeles area
665
00:31:00,826 --> 00:31:04,330
and driving all
white late 70s van.
666
00:31:04,430 --> 00:31:06,298
He's an expert in the
computer operating
667
00:31:06,398 --> 00:31:10,002
system called Unix and maybe
working in a related field.
668
00:31:10,102 --> 00:31:12,404
[music playing]
669
00:31:13,872 --> 00:31:17,676
One can only speculate about
what motivated Kevin Poulsen.
670
00:31:17,776 --> 00:31:19,211
Those that knew
him before he fled
671
00:31:19,311 --> 00:31:21,247
agree that he's an unusually
talented and bright
672
00:31:21,347 --> 00:31:23,615
young man, possibly a genius.
673
00:31:23,715 --> 00:31:25,851
But now he is a
wanted man facing up
674
00:31:25,952 --> 00:31:27,987
to 37 years in prison.
675
00:31:28,087 --> 00:31:29,388
[music playing]
676
00:31:29,488 --> 00:31:30,389
Update.
677
00:31:30,489 --> 00:31:32,524
Shortly after our
broadcast, the FBI
678
00:31:32,624 --> 00:31:35,094
received information that
Kevin Poulsen was living
679
00:31:35,194 --> 00:31:38,864
near Los Angeles, California.
680
00:31:38,965 --> 00:31:40,732
LAWRENCE G. LAWLER (VOICEOVER):
Our San Francisco office
681
00:31:40,832 --> 00:31:43,802
advised us that Poulsen had
some acquaintances in the Los
682
00:31:43,902 --> 00:31:46,005
Angeles area, and we
went out and interviewed
683
00:31:46,105 --> 00:31:47,906
those acquaintances
and one of them
684
00:31:48,007 --> 00:31:50,542
advised us that he had
been seen in the not too
685
00:31:50,642 --> 00:31:53,212
distant past at Hughes Market.
686
00:31:53,312 --> 00:31:54,613
We then went out
and interviewed all
687
00:31:54,713 --> 00:31:57,950
the employees at Hughes Market
and displayed his photograph.
688
00:31:58,050 --> 00:31:59,685
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Three weeks later, Poulsen
689
00:31:59,785 --> 00:32:03,855
returned to the supermarket.
690
00:32:03,956 --> 00:32:06,993
BRIAN BRIDGES (VOICEOVER):
I walked past Kevin
691
00:32:07,093 --> 00:32:11,663
and it dawned on me that's
the person in the photo.
692
00:32:11,763 --> 00:32:14,266
And adrenaline
was pumping in me.
693
00:32:14,366 --> 00:32:16,435
I felt really
nervous and I didn't
694
00:32:16,535 --> 00:32:23,742
want to let any suspicion on to
Kevin that we were on to him.
695
00:32:23,842 --> 00:32:26,645
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Brian
immediately notified the FBI.
696
00:32:26,745 --> 00:32:28,981
However, Poulsen was
able to leave the store
697
00:32:29,081 --> 00:32:30,616
before agents could respond.
698
00:32:30,716 --> 00:32:32,818
[music playing]
699
00:32:32,918 --> 00:32:36,322
The FBI informed me that
Kevin Poulsen had been seen
700
00:32:36,422 --> 00:32:37,956
at the Van Nuys
Hughes Market at about
701
00:32:38,057 --> 00:32:40,859
10 or 10:30 in the evening.
702
00:32:40,959 --> 00:32:43,762
I decided to surveil
the market, thinking
703
00:32:43,862 --> 00:32:46,999
Kevin may show up again.
704
00:32:47,099 --> 00:32:51,037
At about 10 minutes to
midnight, Kevin Poulsen
705
00:32:51,137 --> 00:32:53,605
arrived, drove up,
and parked immediately
706
00:32:53,705 --> 00:32:55,007
in front of the market.
707
00:32:55,107 --> 00:32:58,344
[music playing]
708
00:32:59,578 --> 00:33:03,115
Once Kevin was in the
store, I took a position
709
00:33:03,215 --> 00:33:06,152
near the front door and
asked the security guard
710
00:33:06,252 --> 00:33:08,854
to go find Brian Bridges,
the evening manager,
711
00:33:08,954 --> 00:33:11,923
and bring him to my location
so I could tell him that Kevin
712
00:33:12,024 --> 00:33:13,159
Poulsen was in the store.
713
00:33:13,259 --> 00:33:15,194
[beeping]
714
00:33:15,294 --> 00:33:16,362
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Believing
715
00:33:16,462 --> 00:33:19,131
that Poulsen would again
elude capture, two store
716
00:33:19,231 --> 00:33:20,599
clerks made a daring move.
717
00:33:25,537 --> 00:33:29,007
Security!
718
00:33:29,108 --> 00:33:31,043
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): A
security guard escorted Poulsen
719
00:33:31,143 --> 00:33:34,513
to a storeroom where he was
held until FBI agents arrived
720
00:33:34,613 --> 00:33:36,415
and placed him under arrest.
721
00:33:36,515 --> 00:33:38,484
[music playing]
722
00:33:38,584 --> 00:33:40,152
LAWRENCE G. LAWLER
(VOICEOVER): During the search
723
00:33:40,252 --> 00:33:43,089
of Mr. Poulsen, we
found some handcuff
724
00:33:43,189 --> 00:33:45,924
keys in his eyeglass case.
725
00:33:46,024 --> 00:33:47,626
During the time that
he was in custody,
726
00:33:47,726 --> 00:33:50,729
he claimed that his contact
lenses were drying out
727
00:33:50,829 --> 00:33:52,864
and he had asked for
his eyeglass cases
728
00:33:52,964 --> 00:33:54,133
to be sent to him.
729
00:33:54,233 --> 00:33:57,403
So, I'm assuming he was
looking for the handcuff keys.
730
00:33:57,503 --> 00:34:01,340
[music playing]
731
00:34:19,191 --> 00:34:21,527
The friendships you
make as children often
732
00:34:21,627 --> 00:34:23,462
fade with the passage
of time, enduring
733
00:34:23,562 --> 00:34:25,631
all only pleasant memories.
734
00:34:25,731 --> 00:34:27,666
But for the woman
in our next story,
735
00:34:27,766 --> 00:34:30,102
a friendship with a young
girl who was battling cancer
736
00:34:30,202 --> 00:34:33,372
has survived the years and
become a lifelong search.
737
00:34:33,472 --> 00:34:35,374
Tonight, she asks for
your help in finding
738
00:34:35,474 --> 00:34:38,310
her special childhood friend
and fulfilling a promise she
739
00:34:38,410 --> 00:34:39,845
made more than 20 years ago.
740
00:34:45,384 --> 00:34:46,385
Good morning.
741
00:34:46,485 --> 00:34:48,320
Good Good morning!
742
00:34:48,420 --> 00:34:50,456
We're here to admit our
daughter, LaHarriet Wade.
743
00:34:50,556 --> 00:34:52,057
NURSE: Hi, LaHarriet,
how are you?
744
00:34:52,158 --> 00:34:52,924
Fine.
745
00:34:53,024 --> 00:34:54,260
NURSE: I've been expecting you.
746
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:55,994
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
When she was seven years old,
747
00:34:56,094 --> 00:34:58,564
LaHarriet Wade was admitted
to Children's Hospital
748
00:34:58,664 --> 00:35:01,066
of Los Angeles, California.
749
00:35:01,167 --> 00:35:02,768
She was scheduled
to undergo surgery
750
00:35:02,868 --> 00:35:05,671
to remove several large
tumors from her throat.
751
00:35:05,771 --> 00:35:08,240
Although extremely painful,
LaHarriet's condition
752
00:35:08,340 --> 00:35:09,708
was not life threatening.
753
00:35:11,042 --> 00:35:12,244
LAHARRIET "NIKI"
WADE (VOICEOVER):
754
00:35:12,344 --> 00:35:15,381
I was a little nervous about
being left in there alone,
755
00:35:15,481 --> 00:35:16,582
because it's all new to me.
756
00:35:16,682 --> 00:35:18,784
I had gone back
before for tests,
757
00:35:18,884 --> 00:35:21,387
but I wasn't actually
placed in there before,
758
00:35:21,487 --> 00:35:24,055
and this time I'd be
in there and my parents
759
00:35:24,156 --> 00:35:25,991
wouldn't be there.
760
00:35:26,091 --> 00:35:28,227
Ooh, Mommy, look at those.
761
00:35:28,327 --> 00:35:29,395
LAHARRIET'S MOTHER:
Those are nice.
762
00:35:29,495 --> 00:35:31,230
You want me to get you some?
- Yes.
763
00:35:31,330 --> 00:35:32,198
NURSE: OK, LaHarriet.
764
00:35:32,298 --> 00:35:33,365
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): LaHarriet
765
00:35:33,465 --> 00:35:34,400
shared a room with
eight-year-old Charita Lynn
766
00:35:34,500 --> 00:35:35,367
Harding.
767
00:35:35,467 --> 00:35:36,635
NURSE: --in a
moment to help you--
768
00:35:36,735 --> 00:35:37,736
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Charita had been diagnosed
769
00:35:37,836 --> 00:35:39,905
with a rare form of
cancer, and she too was
770
00:35:40,005 --> 00:35:42,308
scheduled to undergo surgery.
771
00:35:42,408 --> 00:35:43,742
I like your flowers.
772
00:35:43,842 --> 00:35:44,843
CHARITA LYNN HARDING: Thank you.
773
00:35:44,943 --> 00:35:47,546
I have dolls too.
774
00:35:47,646 --> 00:35:49,381
Would you like to play with one?
775
00:35:49,481 --> 00:35:50,682
LAHARRIET "NIKI" WADE: Yes.
776
00:35:50,782 --> 00:35:51,617
CHARITA LYNN HARDING: Here,
you can play with Lovely.
777
00:35:51,717 --> 00:35:52,851
LAHARRIET "NIKI"
WADE (VOICEOVER):
778
00:35:52,951 --> 00:35:54,220
I looked up to Charita,
because one, she was older.
779
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,889
She's about a year older than
I. And she was there first,
780
00:35:57,989 --> 00:36:00,592
so she kind of
initiated me of being
781
00:36:00,692 --> 00:36:02,528
in a new place, new atmosphere.
782
00:36:02,628 --> 00:36:05,197
This part would
be blue right here.
783
00:36:05,297 --> 00:36:06,932
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
In the days that followed,
784
00:36:07,032 --> 00:36:09,701
a warm and caring
friendship blossomed.
785
00:36:09,801 --> 00:36:11,503
LaHarriet and Charita
spent their days
786
00:36:11,603 --> 00:36:14,306
playing games and pulling
pranks on the hospital staff.
787
00:36:14,406 --> 00:36:15,207
[music playing]
788
00:36:15,307 --> 00:36:16,708
Hey, let's have a race.
789
00:36:16,808 --> 00:36:20,212
[music playing]
790
00:36:21,747 --> 00:36:22,781
LAHARRIET "NIKI"
WADE (VOICEOVER):
791
00:36:22,881 --> 00:36:25,217
We were in our own little world.
792
00:36:25,317 --> 00:36:28,554
There was no adults around to
come in and tell us what to do.
793
00:36:28,654 --> 00:36:30,256
[music playing]
794
00:36:30,356 --> 00:36:31,323
I'll get you later!
795
00:36:31,423 --> 00:36:32,458
LAHARRIET "NIKI"
WADE (VOICEOVER):
796
00:36:32,558 --> 00:36:33,925
We created a closeness.
797
00:36:34,025 --> 00:36:36,027
So, she was kind
of like a sister.
798
00:36:36,127 --> 00:36:38,397
We had gotten that relationship.
799
00:36:38,497 --> 00:36:41,400
There was a bond there because
we mattered to one another.
800
00:36:41,500 --> 00:36:46,137
We looked out for what went on,
and we had something in common,
801
00:36:46,238 --> 00:36:48,607
and that was our
illnesses itself.
802
00:36:48,707 --> 00:36:50,842
INTERCOM: Visiting
hours are now over.
803
00:36:50,942 --> 00:36:52,210
All visitors please leave.
804
00:36:52,311 --> 00:36:54,179
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): As
the time for Charita's operation
805
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,682
neared, she was forced to
endure a nightly routine
806
00:36:56,782 --> 00:36:59,117
of painful pre-surgical
treatments.
807
00:36:59,217 --> 00:37:00,386
INTERCOM: Dr.
Thomas, line three.
808
00:37:00,486 --> 00:37:01,320
Dr. Thomas.
809
00:37:01,420 --> 00:37:02,588
LAHARRIET "NIKI"
WADE (VOICEOVER):
810
00:37:02,688 --> 00:37:05,156
I would watch when they would
come in for the testing.
811
00:37:05,257 --> 00:37:07,893
She wouldn't really scream out,
but you'd hear a little shrill
812
00:37:07,993 --> 00:37:11,162
or something like that.
813
00:37:11,263 --> 00:37:13,999
When I look over, she
would turn away like, this
814
00:37:14,099 --> 00:37:17,636
is not happening to me.
815
00:37:17,736 --> 00:37:19,137
I would be angry
with the doctors
816
00:37:19,237 --> 00:37:21,373
because I was like, why
are you hurting her?
817
00:37:21,473 --> 00:37:24,476
But through it
all, she was tough.
818
00:37:24,576 --> 00:37:27,946
And actually she was
a lot stronger than I.
819
00:37:28,046 --> 00:37:32,150
And her problem, really, as I
got older and understood more,
820
00:37:32,250 --> 00:37:33,719
was worse than mine.
821
00:37:33,819 --> 00:37:34,686
[music playing]
822
00:37:34,786 --> 00:37:35,654
My baby.
823
00:37:35,754 --> 00:37:36,622
Hi!
824
00:37:36,722 --> 00:37:39,525
[music playing]
825
00:37:41,092 --> 00:37:42,027
MAN: Hold on.
OK.
826
00:37:42,127 --> 00:37:42,928
Up.
827
00:37:43,028 --> 00:37:44,430
WOMAN: Lift.
828
00:37:44,530 --> 00:37:45,331
MAN: OK.
829
00:37:45,431 --> 00:37:46,498
Check her pulse.
830
00:37:46,598 --> 00:37:47,766
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
10:00 PM, the night
831
00:37:47,866 --> 00:37:49,901
of Charita's operation.
832
00:37:50,001 --> 00:37:51,937
After several hours
of surgery, Charita
833
00:37:52,037 --> 00:37:53,772
was returned to the room.
834
00:37:53,872 --> 00:37:55,240
[music playing]
835
00:37:55,341 --> 00:37:56,375
LAHARRIET "NIKI"
WADE (VOICEOVER):
836
00:37:56,475 --> 00:37:58,677
I was afraid, really afraid.
837
00:37:58,777 --> 00:37:59,645
Does that hurt, sweetheart?
838
00:37:59,745 --> 00:38:00,846
LAHARRIET "NIKI"
WADE (VOICEOVER):
839
00:38:00,946 --> 00:38:02,714
I felt them taking her
away did something to her
840
00:38:02,814 --> 00:38:05,684
that changed her altogether.
841
00:38:05,784 --> 00:38:08,320
Mommy, is this
going to happen to me?
842
00:38:08,420 --> 00:38:09,254
No, honey.
843
00:38:09,355 --> 00:38:10,756
This isn't going
to happen to you.
844
00:38:10,856 --> 00:38:12,290
She has a different
type of operation
845
00:38:12,391 --> 00:38:14,893
than you're going to have.
846
00:38:14,993 --> 00:38:16,728
And then when she grows
up, she's not going
847
00:38:16,828 --> 00:38:17,929
to be able to have any babies.
848
00:38:18,029 --> 00:38:19,164
LAHARRIET "NIKI"
WADE (VOICEOVER):
849
00:38:19,264 --> 00:38:22,968
So that's when my mother
explained to me that Charita
850
00:38:23,068 --> 00:38:25,971
had had a very, very
delicate surgery
851
00:38:26,071 --> 00:38:29,441
and that she wouldn't
be able to have kids.
852
00:38:29,541 --> 00:38:32,611
And I remember feeling
like, oh, that was just
853
00:38:32,711 --> 00:38:34,312
the worst thing in the world.
854
00:38:34,413 --> 00:38:36,882
[crying]
855
00:38:39,685 --> 00:38:41,553
Everybody, Charita's
parents, the doctors,
856
00:38:41,653 --> 00:38:43,389
they all went out
in the hall to talk.
857
00:38:43,489 --> 00:38:48,594
And Charita, she was lying
in her bed, just lying there,
858
00:38:48,694 --> 00:38:49,961
and she had tears in her eyes.
859
00:38:50,061 --> 00:38:53,832
So it made me feel real sad
that I couldn't help her.
860
00:38:53,932 --> 00:38:55,501
Don't worry.
861
00:38:55,601 --> 00:38:58,069
Are you feeling all right?
862
00:38:58,169 --> 00:39:01,272
I'm sorry you're feeling so bad.
863
00:39:01,373 --> 00:39:03,141
Does it hurt?
864
00:39:03,241 --> 00:39:06,044
[music playing]
865
00:39:06,144 --> 00:39:07,479
I said, you don't have to cry.
866
00:39:10,716 --> 00:39:21,026
I said, because, if I
ever have a baby, I said,
867
00:39:21,126 --> 00:39:24,563
you can share it with me and
we can both be its mommy.
868
00:39:24,663 --> 00:39:28,567
I said, I'll even name
it Charita after you.
869
00:39:28,667 --> 00:39:31,470
[music playing]
870
00:39:40,946 --> 00:39:42,748
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Five
weeks after LaHarriet Wade
871
00:39:42,848 --> 00:39:45,283
and Charita Harding
first met, the day
872
00:39:45,383 --> 00:39:47,753
came for them to say goodbye.
873
00:39:47,853 --> 00:39:51,289
LaHarriet's operation was a
success and she was sent home,
874
00:39:51,389 --> 00:39:54,726
but Charita had to remain in the
hospital for further treatment.
875
00:39:54,826 --> 00:39:56,895
Let me take a picture of you.
876
00:40:00,532 --> 00:40:02,033
LAHARRIET "NIKI" WADE
(VOICEOVER): When we left,
877
00:40:02,133 --> 00:40:03,869
we took pictures.
878
00:40:03,969 --> 00:40:07,639
And I remember not wanting
to say goodbye to her.
879
00:40:07,739 --> 00:40:10,642
I felt like I was
losing a sister.
880
00:40:10,742 --> 00:40:12,578
I hope I see you soon.
881
00:40:12,678 --> 00:40:14,045
Bye, you too.
882
00:40:14,145 --> 00:40:15,380
LAHARRIET "NIKI"
WADE (VOICEOVER):
883
00:40:15,481 --> 00:40:17,916
The two girls agreed to continue
their friendship by phone,
884
00:40:18,016 --> 00:40:21,019
but two months later LaHarriet's
family moved to New Mexico
885
00:40:21,119 --> 00:40:24,456
and the young friends
soon lost touch.
886
00:40:24,556 --> 00:40:25,891
Bye!
887
00:40:25,991 --> 00:40:29,060
Yes, may I speak
to Charita Harding?
888
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:33,431
MAN: In 1975, the family
returned to Los Angeles.
889
00:40:33,532 --> 00:40:35,967
LaHarriet called every Harding
listed in the phone book
890
00:40:36,067 --> 00:40:38,770
but was unable to
locate Charita.
891
00:40:38,870 --> 00:40:42,140
[music playing]
892
00:40:42,240 --> 00:40:44,442
Seven years ago, LaHarriet
married and is now
893
00:40:44,543 --> 00:40:46,745
known as Niki Crowder.
894
00:40:46,845 --> 00:40:48,346
Today she is a
mother of a healthy
895
00:40:48,446 --> 00:40:52,518
three-year-old daughter, whom
she plans to baptize Charita.
896
00:40:52,618 --> 00:40:54,185
It is Niki's hope
for Charita Lynn
897
00:40:54,285 --> 00:40:57,122
Harding to become godmother
to Niki's little girl.
898
00:40:57,222 --> 00:40:58,423
LAHARRIET "NIKI"
WADE (VOICEOVER):
899
00:40:58,524 --> 00:41:01,527
I want my daughter to know
Charita because she's a very
900
00:41:01,627 --> 00:41:05,063
special person in my life, and
bringing those two together
901
00:41:05,163 --> 00:41:06,765
would be perfect for me.
902
00:41:06,865 --> 00:41:08,700
[music playing]
903
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,135
Do you want to
learn how to make--
904
00:41:10,235 --> 00:41:11,269
LAHARRIET "NIKI"
WADE (VOICEOVER):
905
00:41:11,369 --> 00:41:13,371
I think of Charita all the time.
906
00:41:13,471 --> 00:41:16,942
I've never ever stopped really
ever thinking about Charita.
907
00:41:17,042 --> 00:41:19,611
Even though she's not around,
she's still a best friend
908
00:41:19,711 --> 00:41:22,047
in the sense of the memories.
909
00:41:22,147 --> 00:41:25,350
I think when you hold onto a
memory, it can't be altered,
910
00:41:25,450 --> 00:41:27,986
so she's still a best friend.
911
00:41:28,086 --> 00:41:30,722
Charita gave me a
lot, and she never
912
00:41:30,822 --> 00:41:34,726
took anything back from me, and
that's what a real friend is.
913
00:41:34,826 --> 00:41:38,864
If I have a baby,
we can share it.
914
00:41:38,964 --> 00:41:44,302
And I promise, I promise,
I'll name her after you.
915
00:41:45,671 --> 00:41:47,105
LAHARRIET "NIKI" WADE
(VOICEOVER): If I saw Charita,
916
00:41:47,205 --> 00:41:51,877
I'd tell her that I
didn't forget the promise.
917
00:41:51,977 --> 00:41:52,844
That's what I'd tell her.
918
00:41:52,944 --> 00:41:54,112
I didn't forget the promise.
919
00:41:54,212 --> 00:41:56,047
[music playing]
920
00:41:56,147 --> 00:42:02,554
And I promise, I promise,
I'll name her after you.
921
00:42:02,654 --> 00:42:03,855
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
A few minutes
922
00:42:03,955 --> 00:42:05,824
after Niki's story
aired, we learned
923
00:42:05,924 --> 00:42:08,526
that Charita Lynn Harding
was alive and well and living
924
00:42:08,627 --> 00:42:09,661
in Oklahoma.
925
00:42:09,761 --> 00:42:12,898
We immediately contacted
Niki with the good news.
926
00:42:12,998 --> 00:42:16,367
[music playing]
927
00:42:16,467 --> 00:42:19,671
Just 10 days after our
broadcast and more than 21 years
928
00:42:19,771 --> 00:42:23,141
after they said goodbye, Charita
Lynn Harding and Niki Crowder
929
00:42:23,241 --> 00:42:26,277
were finally reunited at
Nikki's home in Los Angeles.
930
00:42:26,377 --> 00:42:27,145
[music playing]
931
00:42:27,245 --> 00:42:28,647
Oh.
932
00:42:28,747 --> 00:42:29,547
My God.
933
00:42:29,648 --> 00:42:30,448
I can't believe.
934
00:42:30,548 --> 00:42:31,416
It's been a long time.
935
00:42:31,516 --> 00:42:32,417
20 years.
936
00:42:32,517 --> 00:42:34,620
I'm so glad to see you.
937
00:42:34,720 --> 00:42:36,454
I'm so glad you're alive.
938
00:42:36,554 --> 00:42:39,090
I don't think Niki
has changed that much.
939
00:42:39,190 --> 00:42:42,293
She was always a
caring, giving person.
940
00:42:42,393 --> 00:42:44,262
Seems like she's still the same.
941
00:42:44,362 --> 00:42:48,466
She would have to be to try to
find me after all these years
942
00:42:48,566 --> 00:42:50,836
be so persistent about it.
943
00:42:50,936 --> 00:42:52,237
[music playing]
944
00:42:52,337 --> 00:42:56,174
Father, in the name of Jesus,
watch up over this child.
945
00:42:56,274 --> 00:42:59,645
Protect here all of
the days of her life.
946
00:42:59,745 --> 00:43:00,846
Keep her from harm.
947
00:43:00,946 --> 00:43:02,748
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
On October 20th, 1990,
948
00:43:02,848 --> 00:43:07,285
Niki Crowder was finally
able to fulfill her promise.
949
00:43:07,385 --> 00:43:10,155
A child is a
gift you can't buy.
950
00:43:10,255 --> 00:43:12,123
It's the most perfect
gift in the world,
951
00:43:12,223 --> 00:43:13,524
and it comes from God.
952
00:43:13,625 --> 00:43:17,162
And nobody should be deprived
of that, whether they have it
953
00:43:17,262 --> 00:43:20,398
naturally, or can
share it with somebody.
954
00:43:23,601 --> 00:43:27,605
That's something that I
want to share with Charita,
955
00:43:27,706 --> 00:43:30,541
because of all the joy
and strength she gave me,
956
00:43:30,642 --> 00:43:34,179
I can give her back
something that she missed.
957
00:43:34,279 --> 00:43:37,282
Lord, bless them
even as godparents.
958
00:43:37,382 --> 00:43:38,784
Cause your spirit
to rest upon them.
959
00:43:38,884 --> 00:43:40,485
CHARITA LYNN HARDING
(VOICEOVER): Being a godmother
960
00:43:40,585 --> 00:43:45,924
is special to me because
I don't have any kids,
961
00:43:46,024 --> 00:43:52,597
it's given me a child of
my own that I can share.
962
00:43:52,698 --> 00:43:54,900
I'm just honored,
and so I'll try
963
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,903
to live up to it as best I can.
964
00:43:58,003 --> 00:44:00,271
I'm very happy.
965
00:44:00,371 --> 00:44:03,141
Very happy that I found Charita.
966
00:44:03,241 --> 00:44:07,578
And now I can go on, and I
can go on on a positive note
967
00:44:07,679 --> 00:44:10,381
because she's alive.
968
00:44:10,481 --> 00:44:13,218
I'd just like to say
thanks to everybody.
969
00:44:13,318 --> 00:44:15,053
[music playing]
970
00:44:15,153 --> 00:44:20,391
PRIEST: I christen thee
Charita Kennedy Crowder.
971
00:44:23,895 --> 00:44:27,198
[music playing]
972
00:44:31,202 --> 00:44:33,104
For every mystery,
there is someone
973
00:44:33,204 --> 00:44:35,673
somewhere who knows the truth.
974
00:44:35,774 --> 00:44:39,477
Join me next week for another
edition of Unsolved Mysteries.
975
00:44:39,577 --> 00:44:42,814
[music playing]
76078
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