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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,486 --> 00:00:08,491 (quiet music) 2 00:00:08,835 --> 00:00:10,906 - You know, I've been around for a while. 3 00:00:10,906 --> 00:00:13,042 Met some interesting people. 4 00:00:13,042 --> 00:00:15,455 Done some crazy things. 5 00:00:15,455 --> 00:00:17,761 So you just might think that there's not much 6 00:00:17,761 --> 00:00:21,924 that can take me by surprise. 7 00:00:21,924 --> 00:00:26,915 You'd be wrong. 8 00:00:28,566 --> 00:00:32,335 The world is full of stories, science and things 9 00:00:32,335 --> 00:00:34,747 that amaze and confound me. 10 00:00:34,747 --> 00:00:36,637 Every single day, incredible mysteries 11 00:00:36,637 --> 00:00:37,822 that keep me awake at night. 12 00:00:37,822 --> 00:00:40,161 Some I can answer. 13 00:00:40,161 --> 00:00:44,975 Others just defy logic. 14 00:00:44,975 --> 00:00:47,143 Does the human mind possess powers 15 00:00:47,143 --> 00:00:50,304 beyond our comprehension? 16 00:00:50,304 --> 00:00:51,749 A housewife's psychic vision 17 00:00:51,749 --> 00:00:54,952 helps crack a major murder case. 18 00:00:54,952 --> 00:00:58,113 - I never wanted to be so wrong in my life. 19 00:00:58,113 --> 00:01:03,118 - [Voiceover] Can crimes be solved with psychic power? 20 00:01:03,163 --> 00:01:05,810 A California man remembers every moment 21 00:01:05,810 --> 00:01:08,554 from every day of his life. 22 00:01:08,554 --> 00:01:11,105 - I can remember something so clearly 23 00:01:11,105 --> 00:01:14,896 and then I go, "Wow, that was 41 years ago." 24 00:01:14,896 --> 00:01:18,195 - [Voiceover] Is total recall possible? 25 00:01:18,195 --> 00:01:22,423 And a faith healer cures terminal disease with prayer. 26 00:01:22,423 --> 00:01:23,916 Is it a miracle? 27 00:01:23,916 --> 00:01:27,364 Or an amazing display of mind over matter? 28 00:01:27,364 --> 00:01:29,436 - If this was just placebo effect you would find 29 00:01:29,436 --> 00:01:30,780 a handful of stories. 30 00:01:30,780 --> 00:01:33,844 You don't, you have thousands. 31 00:01:33,844 --> 00:01:38,007 - Yeah! It's a weird world. 32 00:01:38,007 --> 00:01:40,401 And I love it. 33 00:01:40,401 --> 00:01:44,910 (dramatic music) 34 00:01:56,490 --> 00:01:59,768 The human brain. 35 00:01:59,768 --> 00:02:02,810 It's the most complex, advanced, and, many would say, 36 00:02:02,810 --> 00:02:05,063 beautiful thing in nature. 37 00:02:05,063 --> 00:02:06,900 But how much do we know about it? 38 00:02:06,900 --> 00:02:08,576 Well, here are some facts for you. 39 00:02:08,576 --> 00:02:12,196 Did you know that it can process 40 00:02:12,196 --> 00:02:13,968 over 70,000 thoughts a day? 41 00:02:13,968 --> 00:02:16,264 - [Voiceover] This is actually a cow brain, 42 00:02:16,264 --> 00:02:19,477 so it's more like seven thoughts. 43 00:02:19,477 --> 00:02:23,940 - Or that it has over 10,000 miles of blood vessels? 44 00:02:23,940 --> 00:02:25,124 - [Voiceover] Could you put it back, please? 45 00:02:25,124 --> 00:02:30,129 I need that. 46 00:02:30,794 --> 00:02:32,556 - Or that it doesn't feel pain? 47 00:02:32,556 --> 00:02:37,561 - [Voiceover] Ouch, that hurts. 48 00:02:37,851 --> 00:02:39,208 - But these amazing abilities are really 49 00:02:39,208 --> 00:02:40,649 only the tip of the iceberg. 50 00:02:40,649 --> 00:02:42,645 Big question is, what don't we know 51 00:02:42,645 --> 00:02:44,108 about this incredible stuff? 52 00:02:44,108 --> 00:02:45,454 What else can it do? 53 00:02:45,454 --> 00:02:47,150 (laughs) This is so great! 54 00:02:47,150 --> 00:02:51,336 Your brain generates between 10 and 23 watts of power, 55 00:02:51,336 --> 00:02:56,341 enough energy to power a light bulb. 56 00:02:57,731 --> 00:02:59,076 Impressive, huh? 57 00:02:59,076 --> 00:03:03,598 - [Voiceover] This is pathetic! 58 00:03:03,678 --> 00:03:07,020 - Weird or what? 59 00:03:07,020 --> 00:03:10,672 1980, Los Angeles, California. 60 00:03:10,672 --> 00:03:12,764 A massive police search grips the small 61 00:03:12,764 --> 00:03:17,769 suburban community of local housewife Etta Smith. 62 00:03:18,412 --> 00:03:21,765 - I think we were a little edgy because having things 63 00:03:21,765 --> 00:03:25,106 like that happen wasn't the everyday practice. 64 00:03:25,106 --> 00:03:28,545 - A hospital nurse is missing and feared dead. 65 00:03:28,545 --> 00:03:31,010 Astoundingly, Etta was about to find herself 66 00:03:31,010 --> 00:03:34,384 at the center of the investigation 67 00:03:34,384 --> 00:03:38,335 in the most bizarre way. 68 00:03:38,335 --> 00:03:42,007 - I made it a point to listen to the news during the day 69 00:03:42,007 --> 00:03:44,794 about this nurse missing. 70 00:03:44,794 --> 00:03:49,799 And the news said they were making a house-to-house search. 71 00:03:49,930 --> 00:03:53,859 At the moment that they said "a house-to-house search" 72 00:03:53,859 --> 00:03:58,301 everything went haywire. 73 00:03:58,301 --> 00:04:00,872 (woman screams) 74 00:04:00,872 --> 00:04:03,019 It was like I was seeing a movie. 75 00:04:03,019 --> 00:04:05,036 I began to see this area. 76 00:04:05,036 --> 00:04:08,436 I saw trail, I saw a dirt path, 77 00:04:08,436 --> 00:04:11,223 I saw something white through the bushes, 78 00:04:11,223 --> 00:04:15,087 and I knew where it was. 79 00:04:15,087 --> 00:04:16,690 - [Voiceover] For the first time in her life, 80 00:04:16,690 --> 00:04:20,662 Etta's had a psychic vision. 81 00:04:20,662 --> 00:04:24,099 She's convinced she knows where the nurse is. 82 00:04:24,099 --> 00:04:27,676 She's terrified and confused. 83 00:04:27,676 --> 00:04:29,428 - I didn't know what to think of it. 84 00:04:29,428 --> 00:04:33,933 There's some things that you just can't explain away. 85 00:04:33,933 --> 00:04:36,464 I'm arguing with myself. 86 00:04:36,464 --> 00:04:39,067 Should I go tell the police? 87 00:04:39,067 --> 00:04:41,235 They're gonna think I'm crazy. 88 00:04:41,235 --> 00:04:43,946 But what if she's there? 89 00:04:43,946 --> 00:04:46,670 And she needs help? 90 00:04:46,670 --> 00:04:48,153 - [Voiceover] Etta decides to drive to where 91 00:04:48,153 --> 00:04:52,243 she believes the nurse to be, a nearby canyon. 92 00:04:52,243 --> 00:04:54,368 Just being there seems to increase 93 00:04:54,368 --> 00:04:56,941 her newfound psychic abilities. 94 00:04:56,941 --> 00:05:01,946 - I see a big spray of dirt and tire marks 95 00:05:03,476 --> 00:05:08,481 and I laid my hands into the tire prints 96 00:05:08,632 --> 00:05:11,333 and as soon as I did I could feel trauma. 97 00:05:11,333 --> 00:05:15,481 I mean bad. 98 00:05:16,020 --> 00:05:19,811 By then my heart is just fluttering and I'm thinking, 99 00:05:19,811 --> 00:05:23,474 "All I want to do is get out of here." 100 00:05:23,474 --> 00:05:28,479 - [Voiceover] Fighting her fear, Etta follows her instincts. 101 00:05:29,933 --> 00:05:32,762 - Down the embankment, out the dirt path, 102 00:05:32,762 --> 00:05:37,300 I see something. 103 00:05:37,300 --> 00:05:42,137 There was white nurse's shoes. 104 00:05:42,137 --> 00:05:44,412 And I said, "Oh, my God! 105 00:05:44,412 --> 00:05:47,551 "It's her." 106 00:05:47,551 --> 00:05:51,286 I never wanted to be so wrong in my life. 107 00:05:51,286 --> 00:05:53,059 All I could think of is, "Run, get out of here. 108 00:05:53,059 --> 00:05:57,656 "Get to the police." 109 00:06:00,746 --> 00:06:01,911 (sirens) 110 00:06:01,911 --> 00:06:03,116 - [Voiceover] When the police arrive, 111 00:06:03,116 --> 00:06:05,775 Etta's in for a huge shock. 112 00:06:05,775 --> 00:06:08,722 Instead of thanking her, they're convinced 113 00:06:08,722 --> 00:06:12,096 she must have had something to do with the murder. 114 00:06:12,096 --> 00:06:14,605 To her horror, she's arrested. 115 00:06:14,605 --> 00:06:16,485 - It was shocking. 116 00:06:16,485 --> 00:06:18,620 I cried till I couldn't cry any more. 117 00:06:18,620 --> 00:06:21,694 They strip-searched me, put me in a cell 118 00:06:21,694 --> 00:06:24,342 by myself. 119 00:06:24,342 --> 00:06:27,875 It was a nightmare. 120 00:06:27,875 --> 00:06:29,894 - [Voiceover] After four days behind bars 121 00:06:29,894 --> 00:06:33,641 Etta is finally released. 122 00:06:33,641 --> 00:06:36,097 Soon after, the killers, three local men, 123 00:06:36,097 --> 00:06:40,613 are arrested and convicted of rape and murder. 124 00:06:40,613 --> 00:06:43,582 Etta sues the police for false arrest and after six years 125 00:06:43,582 --> 00:06:45,673 of legal battles, she wins. 126 00:06:45,673 --> 00:06:49,106 (gavel knocks) 127 00:06:50,489 --> 00:06:52,229 But even now Etta struggles 128 00:06:52,229 --> 00:06:54,951 to make sense of the whole thing. 129 00:06:54,951 --> 00:06:59,105 - I don't know if it was her spirit that came and touched me 130 00:06:59,105 --> 00:07:02,501 to allow me to have the vision that I had. 131 00:07:02,501 --> 00:07:04,967 I don't know. 132 00:07:04,967 --> 00:07:08,480 It's one of those mysteries. 133 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,846 - [Voiceover] What did Etta Smith experience that day? 134 00:07:12,846 --> 00:07:17,609 Did she have a genuine psychic vision? 135 00:07:17,609 --> 00:07:20,747 Remarkably, many psychic detectives claim 136 00:07:20,747 --> 00:07:24,889 to solve crimes by means of mysterious insights. 137 00:07:24,889 --> 00:07:26,534 Is this possible? 138 00:07:26,534 --> 00:07:29,213 - I'd say there are two kinds of psychics. 139 00:07:29,213 --> 00:07:34,218 Those who have no psychic ability but believe they do. 140 00:07:34,274 --> 00:07:36,720 We call them "fantasizers." 141 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,784 The other type also has no psychic ability, 142 00:07:39,784 --> 00:07:43,948 they know they don't, and we call them "charlatans." 143 00:07:43,948 --> 00:07:48,154 - [Voiceover] Joe Nickell researches paranormal claims. 144 00:07:48,154 --> 00:07:51,121 He believes there's no such thing as psychic vision 145 00:07:51,121 --> 00:07:54,122 or extrasensory perception. 146 00:07:54,122 --> 00:07:58,703 - The history of ESP has been a history of self-deception, 147 00:07:58,703 --> 00:08:03,581 deception, wishful thinking, playing games with statistics, 148 00:08:03,581 --> 00:08:07,767 and not one person has been able to do anything meaningful. 149 00:08:07,767 --> 00:08:09,785 - [Voiceover] But if psychic ability doesn't exist, 150 00:08:09,785 --> 00:08:14,268 how do psychic detectives achieve such amazing results? 151 00:08:14,268 --> 00:08:16,832 - The typical psychic engages in something we call 152 00:08:16,832 --> 00:08:20,804 "retrofitting," or after-the-fact matching. 153 00:08:20,804 --> 00:08:23,311 You throw out some so-called clues. 154 00:08:23,311 --> 00:08:26,643 "I'm getting water. I see a tall structure." 155 00:08:26,643 --> 00:08:27,871 And then the next thing you know, 156 00:08:27,871 --> 00:08:31,351 a search party found the remains and in comes the psychic, 157 00:08:31,351 --> 00:08:35,559 saying, "You know, I mentioned water, and that body 158 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,263 "was found near a creek, or a pond, or Riverside Drive, 159 00:08:39,263 --> 00:08:42,189 "or a water tower. Remember the tall structure I mentioned?" 160 00:08:42,189 --> 00:08:43,694 And they get by with this. 161 00:08:43,694 --> 00:08:45,274 The number seven? 162 00:08:45,274 --> 00:08:48,328 Seven miles out of town, or the sheriff's license plate 163 00:08:48,328 --> 00:08:50,666 has two sevens in the number, or-- 164 00:08:50,666 --> 00:08:52,738 It's silly stuff. 165 00:08:52,738 --> 00:08:57,221 It doesn't help the police find the body, 166 00:08:57,221 --> 00:09:01,898 but it helps them later rationalize that 167 00:09:01,898 --> 00:09:06,873 somehow people have visions of a mystical nature. 168 00:09:06,873 --> 00:09:10,802 - [Voiceover] Did Etta Smith just make a lucky guess? 169 00:09:10,802 --> 00:09:14,635 - It's not so simple that everyone who claims 170 00:09:14,635 --> 00:09:17,379 to be a psychic is a simple fraud. 171 00:09:17,379 --> 00:09:22,098 Some, of course, are, but some are simply self-deceived. 172 00:09:22,098 --> 00:09:23,464 They're what would generally be called 173 00:09:23,464 --> 00:09:25,994 a fantasy-prone personality, and they believe 174 00:09:25,994 --> 00:09:28,696 that what they imagine seems very real to them, 175 00:09:28,696 --> 00:09:31,739 and yet they have no special powers. 176 00:09:31,739 --> 00:09:35,690 The average psychic detective is no use to police. 177 00:09:35,690 --> 00:09:38,669 In my opinion they provide no real evidence. 178 00:09:38,669 --> 00:09:41,240 They create false hope, and they have done it 179 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,333 at the expense of promoting ignorance 180 00:09:43,333 --> 00:09:45,522 and superstition in our society. 181 00:09:45,522 --> 00:09:49,002 And driven unsuspecting people into the clutches 182 00:09:49,002 --> 00:09:52,164 of fortune tellers and other people who are engaging 183 00:09:52,164 --> 00:09:55,890 in magical thinking, rather than rational thinking. 184 00:09:55,890 --> 00:09:58,654 What we need to do in our society is use the organ 185 00:09:58,654 --> 00:10:02,231 above the neck, that's able to analyze evidence 186 00:10:02,231 --> 00:10:03,992 and make rational judgements, 187 00:10:03,992 --> 00:10:07,410 not to have feelings and intuitions and so forth 188 00:10:07,410 --> 00:10:11,386 that don't pan out. 189 00:10:11,617 --> 00:10:15,225 - I see a long life. 190 00:10:15,225 --> 00:10:20,230 Full of riches and a man named Stephen. 191 00:10:21,566 --> 00:10:26,536 Does that ring a bell? 192 00:10:27,151 --> 00:10:29,424 You know, many of us have been to palm readers, 193 00:10:29,424 --> 00:10:30,908 fortune tellers, people who claim to have 194 00:10:30,908 --> 00:10:35,913 amazing psychic abilities who are really nothing but fakes. 195 00:10:37,518 --> 00:10:39,974 But Etta Smith wasn't someone performing cheap tricks. 196 00:10:39,974 --> 00:10:42,024 She saw something in her mind 197 00:10:42,024 --> 00:10:44,414 even the police couldn't understand. 198 00:10:44,414 --> 00:10:46,999 Would she do it just for fame and fortune? 199 00:10:46,999 --> 00:10:52,004 Or is she truly psychic? 200 00:10:52,989 --> 00:10:54,995 No Stephen? 201 00:10:54,995 --> 00:10:58,342 What about Harry? 202 00:10:58,342 --> 00:11:00,232 Are psychics real? 203 00:11:00,232 --> 00:11:04,941 How did Etta Smith help solve a murder? 204 00:11:04,941 --> 00:11:06,968 - Etta definitely had a psychic vision. 205 00:11:06,968 --> 00:11:10,444 She had a clairvoyant vision. 206 00:11:12,285 --> 00:11:14,752 - [Voiceover] A Los Angeles woman has a strange 207 00:11:14,752 --> 00:11:18,839 and sudden vision which helps police solve a murder. 208 00:11:18,839 --> 00:11:21,210 (camera snaps) 209 00:11:21,210 --> 00:11:24,040 Was it a genuine psychic phenomenon? 210 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,456 Popular psychic Tana Hoy thinks so. 211 00:11:27,456 --> 00:11:29,966 - When I first read Etta's story 212 00:11:29,966 --> 00:11:32,431 my reaction that I had was, "Wow, this woman 213 00:11:32,431 --> 00:11:36,735 "had a spontaneous psychic memory." 214 00:11:36,735 --> 00:11:38,944 I believe that the spirit was drawing her, 215 00:11:38,944 --> 00:11:43,744 pulling her to go and find her body. 216 00:11:44,538 --> 00:11:46,216 - [Voiceover] If anyone can testify to how important 217 00:11:46,216 --> 00:11:49,567 psychic visions can be to the police, it's Hoy. 218 00:11:49,567 --> 00:11:52,472 He's helped investigators solve a double homicide 219 00:11:52,472 --> 00:11:57,477 and, while on live radio, predicted a terrorist attack 220 00:11:57,607 --> 00:12:02,603 ninety minutes before the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995. 221 00:12:02,603 --> 00:12:07,206 - A person can hear a word, a phrase, and it will awaken 222 00:12:07,206 --> 00:12:11,434 a psychic memory or a psychic vision within that person. 223 00:12:11,434 --> 00:12:13,505 (newscast in background) 224 00:12:13,505 --> 00:12:17,007 She's wakened this vision and she saw the canyon 225 00:12:17,007 --> 00:12:18,427 where the body was. 226 00:12:18,427 --> 00:12:20,338 That's an example of clairvoyant experience, 227 00:12:20,338 --> 00:12:22,300 clear seeing. 228 00:12:22,300 --> 00:12:25,258 And when she placed her hand in the tire tracks 229 00:12:25,258 --> 00:12:27,810 she was making a direct connection with the energy 230 00:12:27,810 --> 00:12:30,159 imprint of the vehicle. 231 00:12:30,159 --> 00:12:32,252 Etta definitely had a psychic vision. 232 00:12:32,252 --> 00:12:34,184 She had a clairvoyant vision. 233 00:12:34,184 --> 00:12:36,042 Clairvoyance comes from the French word, 234 00:12:36,042 --> 00:12:38,892 and it means "clear seeing." 235 00:12:38,892 --> 00:12:41,968 And she had visions inside her head 236 00:12:41,968 --> 00:12:45,287 that she could clearly see, so that would be definitely 237 00:12:45,287 --> 00:12:47,658 considered a psychic experience. 238 00:12:47,658 --> 00:12:51,032 I also would like to say, everybody is psychic. 239 00:12:51,032 --> 00:12:53,445 Some people have learned to develop it 240 00:12:53,445 --> 00:12:56,742 and tap into it, and others haven't. 241 00:12:56,742 --> 00:12:59,647 Businessmen often talk about having hunches. 242 00:12:59,647 --> 00:13:02,274 Very common, talk to a businessman, a stockbroker, 243 00:13:02,274 --> 00:13:03,544 some kind of investor. 244 00:13:03,544 --> 00:13:05,338 He'll say, "Oh, I just had a hunch." 245 00:13:05,338 --> 00:13:07,730 Of a businessman will say, "Well, I didn't hire that person. 246 00:13:07,730 --> 00:13:10,196 "I just had a gut feeling it wasn't right." 247 00:13:10,196 --> 00:13:12,150 Women talk about their intuition. 248 00:13:12,150 --> 00:13:13,944 "I just had an intuitive feeling that this was gonna 249 00:13:13,944 --> 00:13:16,840 "be like this," or, "I had a sense that person 250 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:18,591 "wasn't telling me the truth." 251 00:13:18,591 --> 00:13:21,079 Have you ever felt someone was lying 252 00:13:21,079 --> 00:13:23,054 or has a sense about something, or felt 253 00:13:23,054 --> 00:13:25,402 somebody wasn't a good person, or you could 254 00:13:25,402 --> 00:13:28,072 trust that person, or you couldn't trust that person? 255 00:13:28,072 --> 00:13:30,004 You had a psychic experience. 256 00:13:30,004 --> 00:13:31,905 We just don't call them psychic feelings, 257 00:13:31,905 --> 00:13:33,998 but anything that you're able to know, 258 00:13:33,998 --> 00:13:37,648 sense, or feel outside of your normal five senses 259 00:13:37,648 --> 00:13:40,083 is psychic in nature. 260 00:13:40,083 --> 00:13:43,104 - [Voiceover] But if Etta's vision was for real, 261 00:13:43,104 --> 00:13:46,520 why didn't the police believe her? 262 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,521 - We're going back to 1980, so back then 263 00:13:49,521 --> 00:13:52,585 we didn't have the awareness of psychics that we have today. 264 00:13:52,585 --> 00:13:55,543 Today we see tv shows and we see psychics 265 00:13:55,543 --> 00:13:57,240 on talk shows. 266 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:01,031 I don't feel that she would have been arrested today. 267 00:14:01,031 --> 00:14:03,347 - [Voiceover] So given their remarkable successes 268 00:14:03,347 --> 00:14:08,352 should detectives add psychics to the force? 269 00:14:08,430 --> 00:14:11,472 - A lot of psychics, when they work with police departments, 270 00:14:11,472 --> 00:14:13,246 they don't do it for publicity. 271 00:14:13,246 --> 00:14:15,477 They do it to help and give back. 272 00:14:15,477 --> 00:14:19,762 So it happens a lot more than we ever hear about. 273 00:14:19,865 --> 00:14:22,277 - [Voiceover] But did Etta Smith really see something 274 00:14:22,277 --> 00:14:24,701 with her mind? 275 00:14:24,701 --> 00:14:28,321 Psychology Professor Tim Moore thinks not. 276 00:14:28,321 --> 00:14:31,117 - I think Etta may have overheard information 277 00:14:31,117 --> 00:14:33,723 in the community without fully processing it 278 00:14:33,723 --> 00:14:36,018 at the time that she acquired it, 279 00:14:36,018 --> 00:14:39,019 but later on it registered and prompted her 280 00:14:39,019 --> 00:14:41,036 to go to the police. 281 00:14:41,036 --> 00:14:42,338 - [Voiceover] Moore believes something in Etta's 282 00:14:42,338 --> 00:14:45,222 unconscious memory triggered what she thought 283 00:14:45,222 --> 00:14:47,945 was a psychic vision. 284 00:14:47,945 --> 00:14:52,033 Psychologists call it "source misattribution." 285 00:14:52,033 --> 00:14:55,290 - Source misattribution, you have information 286 00:14:55,290 --> 00:14:58,311 to which you falsely attribute having acquired 287 00:14:58,311 --> 00:15:01,867 as a result of experience, when in fact it's been 288 00:15:01,867 --> 00:15:06,554 suggested to you or provided to you by someone else. 289 00:15:06,554 --> 00:15:08,581 - [Voiceover] Etta Smith wasn't the killer, so how could 290 00:15:08,581 --> 00:15:10,953 she have any idea where the body was? 291 00:15:10,953 --> 00:15:14,272 - My understanding is that the actual culprits 292 00:15:14,272 --> 00:15:18,554 were blabbermouths and they talked about what they had done 293 00:15:18,554 --> 00:15:22,249 in their neighborhood, which was her neighborhood. 294 00:15:22,249 --> 00:15:25,216 - [Voiceover] Could Etta's psychic vision be mistaken 295 00:15:25,216 --> 00:15:28,216 for random information she had nothing to do with? 296 00:15:28,216 --> 00:15:31,431 - If Etta's not concentrating on the information at the time 297 00:15:31,431 --> 00:15:34,238 that she's hearing it, because that's not the focus 298 00:15:34,238 --> 00:15:36,683 of her attention, the information nevertheless 299 00:15:36,683 --> 00:15:40,494 gets in, but she doesn't remember the source. 300 00:15:40,494 --> 00:15:44,840 At some later date she hears information on the news 301 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:49,485 that the police are looking for a missing body. 302 00:15:49,485 --> 00:15:54,490 She recollects somewhat hazily, or without appreciating 303 00:15:54,855 --> 00:15:57,716 how she came by that information. 304 00:15:57,716 --> 00:15:58,826 - [Voiceover] But how could Etta have known 305 00:15:58,826 --> 00:16:02,692 the exact location of the body, the precise road 306 00:16:02,692 --> 00:16:04,944 in the right canyon? 307 00:16:04,944 --> 00:16:07,869 - I believe she's familiar with the area, so the original 308 00:16:07,869 --> 00:16:12,874 information could easily have triggered a cognitive map. 309 00:16:13,241 --> 00:16:17,149 The canyon roads there, for example, are pretty distinctive. 310 00:16:17,149 --> 00:16:19,741 She may have intuited, just on the basis 311 00:16:19,741 --> 00:16:23,159 of what she overheard, where the body probably was. 312 00:16:23,159 --> 00:16:24,877 That's not a stretch. 313 00:16:24,877 --> 00:16:26,554 - [Voiceover] Did the unexpected recall 314 00:16:26,554 --> 00:16:30,045 of a hidden memory lead Etta to the body, 315 00:16:30,045 --> 00:16:33,578 or did she experience a genuine psychic event 316 00:16:33,578 --> 00:16:36,345 which helped solve a case the police could not? 317 00:16:36,345 --> 00:16:41,350 Whatever the truth, the story's most definitely weird. 318 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:43,616 Or what? 319 00:16:43,616 --> 00:16:47,421 (dramatic music) 320 00:16:58,168 --> 00:16:59,982 You know, the human brain has been evolving 321 00:16:59,982 --> 00:17:03,617 for uh, uh, hold it, uh ... 322 00:17:06,857 --> 00:17:08,321 Wait, how long has it been evolving? 323 00:17:08,321 --> 00:17:11,279 - [Man] Two point five million years. 324 00:17:11,279 --> 00:17:13,643 - [Woman] 903 B, take two, marker. 325 00:17:13,643 --> 00:17:14,711 (claps) 326 00:17:14,711 --> 00:17:15,683 - [Man] Action. 327 00:17:15,683 --> 00:17:17,145 - You know, the human brain has been evolving 328 00:17:17,145 --> 00:17:18,724 for two and a half million years, but perhaps 329 00:17:18,724 --> 00:17:20,401 one of the greatest things that sets us apart 330 00:17:20,401 --> 00:17:23,864 from any other creature is the power ... 331 00:17:27,469 --> 00:17:28,889 Wow, damn-- 332 00:17:28,889 --> 00:17:30,885 - [Woman] 903 B, take three, marker. 333 00:17:30,885 --> 00:17:31,857 (claps) 334 00:17:31,857 --> 00:17:32,583 - [Man] And action. 335 00:17:32,583 --> 00:17:34,206 - You know, the human brain has been evolving 336 00:17:34,206 --> 00:17:35,584 for two and a half million years, but perhaps 337 00:17:35,584 --> 00:17:37,133 one of the greatest things that sets us apart 338 00:17:37,133 --> 00:17:40,697 from any other creature is the power of our memory. 339 00:17:40,697 --> 00:17:42,160 - (Man and woman cheer) 340 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:46,313 Oh, come on! 341 00:17:46,313 --> 00:17:48,247 Where are my keys? 342 00:17:48,247 --> 00:17:50,382 In the ... 343 00:17:50,382 --> 00:17:52,196 Oh, wow! 344 00:17:52,196 --> 00:17:55,891 They say that everyone has a special talent, 345 00:17:55,891 --> 00:17:59,542 and in Bob Petrella's case that's certainly true. 346 00:17:59,542 --> 00:18:02,703 But he possesses something so special it sets him apart 347 00:18:02,703 --> 00:18:05,937 from the rest of humankind. 348 00:18:05,937 --> 00:18:07,742 - The reaction kind of varies. 349 00:18:07,742 --> 00:18:10,091 A lot of people are amazed, a lot of people call 350 00:18:10,091 --> 00:18:13,026 it a phenomenon, a strange and unusual ... 351 00:18:13,026 --> 00:18:15,302 - [Voiceover] Even old friends are still shocked 352 00:18:15,302 --> 00:18:17,990 when they see Bob's power on display. 353 00:18:17,990 --> 00:18:22,155 - [Woman] Ah, very good, very good. 354 00:18:22,155 --> 00:18:24,824 - May 18th, 1980. 355 00:18:24,824 --> 00:18:26,618 - Oh, that's Mount St. Helen's. 356 00:18:26,618 --> 00:18:28,988 - Nerve gas attach in Tokyo subway? 357 00:18:28,988 --> 00:18:30,473 - March 20th, '95. 358 00:18:30,473 --> 00:18:31,497 - Correct. 359 00:18:31,497 --> 00:18:32,778 - Princess Diana's wedding. 360 00:18:32,778 --> 00:18:34,221 - July 29th, '81. 361 00:18:34,221 --> 00:18:36,002 It was a Wednesday. 362 00:18:36,002 --> 00:18:38,171 - [Voiceover] It may seem that Bob just has 363 00:18:38,171 --> 00:18:41,726 a gift for remembering trivia, but there's much more 364 00:18:41,726 --> 00:18:43,381 to his incredible talent. 365 00:18:43,381 --> 00:18:47,193 He can remember nearly every single moment 366 00:18:47,193 --> 00:18:49,979 from every single day of his life. 367 00:18:49,979 --> 00:18:52,392 - I threw a bowl of soup on the ceiling. 368 00:18:52,392 --> 00:18:53,395 (all laugh) 369 00:18:53,395 --> 00:18:54,558 On March 13th, '75 I got-- 370 00:18:54,558 --> 00:18:56,673 Sometimes they think you're lying, 371 00:18:56,673 --> 00:18:58,594 they think you're making it up. 372 00:18:58,594 --> 00:19:01,222 - [Voiceover] But every fact Bob pulls from his mind 373 00:19:01,222 --> 00:19:02,599 is correct. 374 00:19:02,599 --> 00:19:06,010 His memory is somehow perfect. 375 00:19:06,010 --> 00:19:07,494 - When's my birthday? 376 00:19:07,494 --> 00:19:08,317 - November 8th. 377 00:19:08,317 --> 00:19:08,988 - What's the year? 378 00:19:08,988 --> 00:19:09,682 '68. 379 00:19:09,682 --> 00:19:10,707 - What day of the week was it? 380 00:19:10,707 --> 00:19:11,297 - Friday. 381 00:19:11,297 --> 00:19:12,343 - What were you doing that day? 382 00:19:12,343 --> 00:19:14,319 - I was at a football game watching Beaver Falls 383 00:19:14,319 --> 00:19:15,386 fight Hopewell. 384 00:19:15,386 --> 00:19:18,615 Beaver Falls got beat, I think 28/7. 385 00:19:18,615 --> 00:19:20,526 - Bob is the best friend to have. 386 00:19:20,526 --> 00:19:21,433 (Bob laughs) 387 00:19:21,433 --> 00:19:23,376 He always remembers your birthday, he remembers 388 00:19:23,376 --> 00:19:24,989 your anniversary. 389 00:19:24,989 --> 00:19:27,583 You also remember stuff that we did 390 00:19:27,583 --> 00:19:29,142 that I completely forgot. 391 00:19:29,142 --> 00:19:30,679 We've been working for a long time 392 00:19:30,679 --> 00:19:31,789 and then he'll call me up and, 393 00:19:31,789 --> 00:19:34,139 "Ten years ago, Nancy, we were on a plane 394 00:19:34,139 --> 00:19:35,893 "to New York to do this story." 395 00:19:35,893 --> 00:19:39,545 And I'm like, "Ten years ago, yeah, we were, weren't we?" 396 00:19:39,545 --> 00:19:41,979 - Well, usually anniversaries, I'll do it for that. 397 00:19:41,979 --> 00:19:44,681 If it's, you know, "By the way, November 8th, 398 00:19:44,681 --> 00:19:46,400 "November 2nd, July 11th." 399 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:47,382 (all laugh) 400 00:19:47,382 --> 00:19:50,030 - Very good, very good. 401 00:19:50,030 --> 00:19:52,561 So it is cool having you as a friend, but it's not 402 00:19:52,561 --> 00:19:54,162 something that's always in your face. 403 00:19:54,162 --> 00:19:57,043 I mean, you're very stealth about your ability. 404 00:19:57,043 --> 00:19:58,604 - Well, that's not my experience, 405 00:19:58,604 --> 00:19:59,970 'cause I watch football with him, so everytime 406 00:19:59,970 --> 00:20:01,581 we watch a game he'll say, "Remember that game 407 00:20:01,581 --> 00:20:03,718 "three years ago when someone said this?" 408 00:20:03,718 --> 00:20:05,320 I'm just like, "I don't remember yesterday, 409 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:06,599 "like, what are you talking about?" 410 00:20:06,599 --> 00:20:09,087 His ability to remember detail from games 411 00:20:09,087 --> 00:20:11,693 and things that happened in games, I just realize ... 412 00:20:11,693 --> 00:20:15,685 And because I just think of you as a buddy, 413 00:20:15,685 --> 00:20:17,224 I think, "God, my memory's terrible! 414 00:20:17,224 --> 00:20:18,845 "I don't remember that at all, how come I don't 415 00:20:18,845 --> 00:20:20,477 "remember that?" 416 00:20:20,477 --> 00:20:23,541 - [Voiceover] Unbelievable though it seems, Bob remembers 417 00:20:23,541 --> 00:20:27,684 every detail of every experience he's ever had. 418 00:20:27,684 --> 00:20:29,638 - It's a little unnerving. 419 00:20:29,638 --> 00:20:31,814 - Sometimes I even amaze myself when I remember 420 00:20:31,814 --> 00:20:34,164 mundane things about when I got a haircut 421 00:20:34,164 --> 00:20:36,588 or what I had for lunch on a certain day. 422 00:20:36,588 --> 00:20:38,606 A lot of people are like, they look at me and 423 00:20:38,606 --> 00:20:40,624 just totally amazed. 424 00:20:40,624 --> 00:20:42,417 - [Voiceover] But how is this possible? 425 00:20:42,417 --> 00:20:44,925 We all know our memory is far from complete. 426 00:20:44,925 --> 00:20:47,947 Words and names stick on the tips of our tongues, 427 00:20:47,947 --> 00:20:51,695 to say nothing of the inconsequential details of daily life. 428 00:20:51,695 --> 00:20:53,872 - May 1st, let's go back May 1st. 429 00:20:53,872 --> 00:20:55,507 Ten years. 430 00:20:55,507 --> 00:20:56,318 - Where was I? 431 00:20:56,318 --> 00:20:58,550 Well, May 1st, '91, I was wrapping up a job 432 00:20:58,550 --> 00:21:00,503 at Pacific State University. 433 00:21:00,503 --> 00:21:03,803 That was a Tuesday, and that was the NFL draft. 434 00:21:03,803 --> 00:21:06,590 - Yeah, that's usually gonna be around draft day. 435 00:21:06,590 --> 00:21:10,401 - Yeah, yeah, and then May 1st, '81, I was housesitting 436 00:21:10,401 --> 00:21:13,423 in Laurel Canyon for this woman named Autumn Brown. 437 00:21:13,423 --> 00:21:16,795 May 1st, '71, was a Saturday, and I was back east visiting. 438 00:21:16,795 --> 00:21:18,930 I went out drinking for the first time 439 00:21:18,930 --> 00:21:21,066 as a 21 year old in a bar. 440 00:21:21,066 --> 00:21:22,764 It was a Saturday, you know, and they-- 441 00:21:22,764 --> 00:21:24,323 And I was-- "Let's see your ID." 442 00:21:24,323 --> 00:21:26,041 "Yeah, here it is, pal, I'm 21." 443 00:21:26,041 --> 00:21:29,757 It was like only three days after my 21st birthday. 444 00:21:29,757 --> 00:21:31,316 - [Voiceover] Incredibly, Bob's not the only person 445 00:21:31,316 --> 00:21:33,314 with a perfect memory. 446 00:21:33,314 --> 00:21:35,320 He is part of an exclusive club. 447 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:39,099 Around 20 people worldwide have what scientists now call 448 00:21:39,099 --> 00:21:43,423 "superautobiographical memory," the ability to remember 449 00:21:43,423 --> 00:21:47,074 every single day of their lives. 450 00:21:47,074 --> 00:21:50,427 - Yeah, the amazing part to me sometimes is I can remember 451 00:21:50,427 --> 00:21:53,770 something so clearly, and then I go, "Wow, that was 452 00:21:53,770 --> 00:21:55,786 "41 years ago." 453 00:21:55,786 --> 00:21:57,955 I'm not sure how it works. 454 00:21:57,955 --> 00:22:01,926 It came natural to me. 455 00:22:01,926 --> 00:22:04,457 - A man with a super memory, that can remember the tiniest 456 00:22:04,457 --> 00:22:06,720 detail from every part of his life? 457 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:07,852 Now, that's impressive. 458 00:22:07,852 --> 00:22:09,389 But he's not the only one. 459 00:22:09,389 --> 00:22:11,386 You see, I've got some tricks of the trade myself. 460 00:22:11,386 --> 00:22:14,387 For instance, I've forgotten where I put my phone, 461 00:22:14,387 --> 00:22:18,406 and to stimulate my memory, I use another phone to call it. 462 00:22:21,079 --> 00:22:23,888 And then I listen-- 463 00:22:23,888 --> 00:22:26,056 (phone rings) 464 00:22:26,056 --> 00:22:28,286 And then I simply head towards the source of the sound, 465 00:22:28,286 --> 00:22:29,729 and I should find it in the last place 466 00:22:29,729 --> 00:22:33,319 I was going something important. 467 00:22:34,159 --> 00:22:37,159 Okay, I know it's in here, no. 468 00:22:37,159 --> 00:22:38,397 (phone continues ringing) 469 00:22:38,397 --> 00:22:39,582 Come on. 470 00:22:39,582 --> 00:22:40,598 No. 471 00:22:40,598 --> 00:22:42,241 Ahh! 472 00:22:42,241 --> 00:22:44,271 You see! 473 00:22:44,271 --> 00:22:49,075 It works every time! 474 00:22:49,075 --> 00:22:51,189 Hello? 475 00:22:51,189 --> 00:22:54,723 The ice cream is in the refrigerator. 476 00:22:54,723 --> 00:22:58,631 So what explains Bob Petrella's incredible gift? 477 00:22:58,631 --> 00:23:01,551 Could the rest of us have this superpower? 478 00:23:01,551 --> 00:23:05,313 - We all have this capacity. 479 00:23:07,134 --> 00:23:10,081 - [Voiceover] California man has an incredible gift. 480 00:23:10,081 --> 00:23:12,526 He is able to remember every detail 481 00:23:12,526 --> 00:23:14,820 of every day of his life. 482 00:23:14,820 --> 00:23:17,896 Does he possess a kind of superpower? 483 00:23:17,896 --> 00:23:20,149 - When I first heard about this idea 484 00:23:20,149 --> 00:23:22,520 it didn't smell right to me. 485 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,022 - [Voiceover] Gary Marcus is a cognitive scientist. 486 00:23:25,022 --> 00:23:27,040 He believes people with super memory 487 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,948 might not be so super after all. 488 00:23:30,948 --> 00:23:33,061 - I think what's really happening in this syndrome 489 00:23:33,061 --> 00:23:35,464 is that people are really spending a lot of time 490 00:23:35,464 --> 00:23:37,599 studying their own lives. 491 00:23:37,599 --> 00:23:39,553 People might try to remember the past because 492 00:23:39,553 --> 00:23:41,218 they want to hold on to it. 493 00:23:41,218 --> 00:23:42,799 It's not necessarily voluntary. 494 00:23:42,799 --> 00:23:44,945 Most of us, if we're interested in something, 495 00:23:44,945 --> 00:23:46,034 don't obsess over it. 496 00:23:46,034 --> 00:23:48,265 I think one thing that often happens in this syndrome 497 00:23:48,265 --> 00:23:50,336 is people are particularly interested in the details 498 00:23:50,336 --> 00:23:51,350 of their own lives. 499 00:23:51,350 --> 00:23:52,237 Not everybody is. 500 00:23:52,237 --> 00:23:55,237 I think my life is interesting, but not so interesting 501 00:23:55,237 --> 00:23:56,283 that I spend a lot of time thinking about 502 00:23:56,283 --> 00:23:57,629 what happened to me in the past. 503 00:23:57,629 --> 00:23:59,795 I'm usually focused on what's going to happen next 504 00:23:59,795 --> 00:24:01,066 rather than what happened in the past. 505 00:24:01,066 --> 00:24:02,679 But some people are particularly interested. 506 00:24:02,679 --> 00:24:04,537 Just like people might be interested in genealogy, 507 00:24:04,537 --> 00:24:06,693 or some people are interested in sports facts 508 00:24:06,693 --> 00:24:07,878 because they like sports. 509 00:24:07,878 --> 00:24:09,459 When I was a kid I paid a lot of attention 510 00:24:09,459 --> 00:24:11,626 to baseball statistics, because that's what I liked. 511 00:24:11,626 --> 00:24:13,580 Everybody has different things that they like, 512 00:24:13,580 --> 00:24:15,201 and some of us spend more time than others 513 00:24:15,201 --> 00:24:18,106 trying to actually remember those things. 514 00:24:18,106 --> 00:24:21,202 - [Voiceover] So is supermemory just a form of obsession? 515 00:24:21,202 --> 00:24:23,797 To find out, Marcus spent time with other people 516 00:24:23,797 --> 00:24:26,338 who also claim they have it. 517 00:24:26,338 --> 00:24:29,242 - I think that people who have studied this phenomenon 518 00:24:29,242 --> 00:24:32,723 have focused on what the people who have the phenomenon 519 00:24:32,723 --> 00:24:33,865 are good at. 520 00:24:33,865 --> 00:24:37,889 But with the person that I tested that had this kind 521 00:24:37,889 --> 00:24:39,257 of syndrome, I focused on some things 522 00:24:39,257 --> 00:24:40,207 that I thought they might be bad at, 523 00:24:40,207 --> 00:24:42,395 and indeed were. 524 00:24:42,395 --> 00:24:44,040 - [Voiceover] When given standard memory tests 525 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,880 like recalling lists of words, Marcus found people 526 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,600 with so-called "supermemory" did no better than anyone else. 527 00:24:51,099 --> 00:24:53,865 I think we as a species are worried that we're being 528 00:24:53,865 --> 00:24:54,911 replaced by machines. 529 00:24:54,911 --> 00:24:56,469 And probably worried with good reason, because 530 00:24:56,469 --> 00:24:57,910 machines do have better memories. 531 00:24:57,910 --> 00:24:59,491 So when you find a person that at least looks 532 00:24:59,491 --> 00:25:02,769 a little bit like they have memory as good as a machine, 533 00:25:02,769 --> 00:25:05,139 maybe it makes us feel better about ourselves. 534 00:25:05,139 --> 00:25:07,253 The reality is, in the long term, no human's ever 535 00:25:07,253 --> 00:25:09,388 gonna match the memory of a machine. 536 00:25:09,388 --> 00:25:11,107 The idea of photographic memory is a myth, 537 00:25:11,107 --> 00:25:12,922 and there's no human being that really has 538 00:25:12,922 --> 00:25:17,379 the level of control over their memory that a computer does. 539 00:25:17,524 --> 00:25:19,596 People with superior autobiographical memory 540 00:25:19,596 --> 00:25:21,132 get really good at memorizing the details 541 00:25:21,132 --> 00:25:23,802 of their own lives, but it doesn't extend to everything. 542 00:25:23,802 --> 00:25:28,140 They're not interested it, they're not gonna remember it. 543 00:25:28,190 --> 00:25:30,144 - [Voiceover] So has Bob simply chosen to obsessively 544 00:25:30,144 --> 00:25:32,749 memorize his entire life? 545 00:25:32,749 --> 00:25:37,148 Not everyone is convinced. 546 00:25:37,148 --> 00:25:40,788 Dr. James McGaugh was the first psychologist 547 00:25:40,788 --> 00:25:42,934 to study super memory. 548 00:25:42,934 --> 00:25:45,112 - The most surprising thing about this ability 549 00:25:45,112 --> 00:25:48,251 to me is what surprises everybody. 550 00:25:48,251 --> 00:25:50,765 The fact that it can be done at all. 551 00:25:50,765 --> 00:25:54,438 If I should ask anybody what they did yesterday 552 00:25:54,438 --> 00:25:56,370 then most people could run through the day, 553 00:25:56,370 --> 00:25:59,060 yesterday, pretty easily, and even the day before. 554 00:25:59,060 --> 00:26:01,036 They think about it, they can run through. 555 00:26:01,036 --> 00:26:03,342 And that is not unlike what these people 556 00:26:03,342 --> 00:26:04,964 are able to do, except they can do it 557 00:26:04,964 --> 00:26:06,544 for every day of their life. 558 00:26:06,544 --> 00:26:09,085 So the question is, why is it that these subjects 559 00:26:09,085 --> 00:26:12,758 can do it for all days, and the rest of it can only do 560 00:26:12,758 --> 00:26:16,014 for one or two days with any reliability 561 00:26:16,014 --> 00:26:19,632 aside from remembering special days and special events 562 00:26:19,632 --> 00:26:22,355 because we all remember birthdays and weddings 563 00:26:22,355 --> 00:26:24,886 and funerals and automobile accidents, 564 00:26:24,886 --> 00:26:26,723 and things of that kind. 565 00:26:26,723 --> 00:26:28,878 - [Voiceover] After interviewing more than a dozen people 566 00:26:28,878 --> 00:26:31,185 with super memory, he's convinced 567 00:26:31,185 --> 00:26:33,769 they're not merely obsessive. 568 00:26:33,769 --> 00:26:36,559 - One of our subjects made this very clear. 569 00:26:36,559 --> 00:26:38,770 When somebody suggests that all that she does is 570 00:26:38,770 --> 00:26:41,792 sit around and re-rehearse all of her information, 571 00:26:41,792 --> 00:26:43,275 and she says, "Let me get this straight. 572 00:26:43,275 --> 00:26:45,880 "I have a full-time job, and I have a life, and I'm 573 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,090 "supposed to be sitting around re-rehearsing 574 00:26:48,090 --> 00:26:50,182 "all of those experiences. 575 00:26:50,182 --> 00:26:52,660 "Highly unlikely." 576 00:26:52,660 --> 00:26:54,271 - [Voiceover] McGaugh feels that people like Bob 577 00:26:54,271 --> 00:26:57,518 are a real phenomena with memories way, way 578 00:26:57,518 --> 00:27:01,938 beyond that of even the best minds. 579 00:27:01,938 --> 00:27:03,731 - An average person can learn to do some 580 00:27:03,731 --> 00:27:06,081 memory tricks, and there are individuals 581 00:27:06,081 --> 00:27:08,750 who have memorized the number pi 582 00:27:08,750 --> 00:27:10,703 out to 30,000 places. 583 00:27:10,703 --> 00:27:12,721 But that type of ability is restricted 584 00:27:12,721 --> 00:27:14,696 to that kind of information. 585 00:27:14,696 --> 00:27:17,227 People with superior autobiographical memory 586 00:27:17,227 --> 00:27:20,899 capture their daily experiences, and it doesn't really 587 00:27:20,899 --> 00:27:24,348 make much difference what kind of information it is, 588 00:27:24,348 --> 00:27:26,366 they just hold it. 589 00:27:26,366 --> 00:27:27,850 - [Voiceover] But if it's not an obsession. 590 00:27:27,850 --> 00:27:32,153 How else would they remember their lives in such detail? 591 00:27:32,153 --> 00:27:36,316 McGaugh is working on an incredible theory. 592 00:27:36,316 --> 00:27:40,448 - One possibility is that we all store all this information 593 00:27:40,448 --> 00:27:44,100 about all our experiences in our brain someplace. 594 00:27:44,100 --> 00:27:47,954 We all have this capacity, and they are able to tap this 595 00:27:47,954 --> 00:27:51,648 capacity in ways that we can't. 596 00:27:51,648 --> 00:27:52,790 - [Voiceover] But how come people like Bob 597 00:27:52,790 --> 00:27:55,972 are able to do this, and the rest of us can't? 598 00:27:55,972 --> 00:27:58,759 - We're beginning to find that there are some regions 599 00:27:58,759 --> 00:28:03,477 of the brains of our subjects who have this strong memory 600 00:28:03,477 --> 00:28:07,545 that are larger than the same regions in control subjects 601 00:28:07,545 --> 00:28:10,962 of the same age and sex. 602 00:28:10,962 --> 00:28:13,588 - [Voiceover] It's believed part of the brain called 603 00:28:13,588 --> 00:28:15,264 the "caudate nuclei" is seven times larger 604 00:28:15,264 --> 00:28:20,269 in people with super memory. 605 00:28:20,955 --> 00:28:24,907 Could this somehow explain Bob's gift? 606 00:28:24,907 --> 00:28:27,820 - If the human brain is capable of doing that, 607 00:28:27,820 --> 00:28:30,329 that tells us that the human brain has this 608 00:28:30,329 --> 00:28:31,973 amazing capacity. 609 00:28:31,973 --> 00:28:33,393 There's something really important here. 610 00:28:33,393 --> 00:28:36,341 Something unique and something important. 611 00:28:36,341 --> 00:28:40,344 - [Voiceover] Do super memorizers have turbo-charged brains, 612 00:28:40,344 --> 00:28:44,412 or is there another answer to this mystery of the mind? 613 00:28:44,412 --> 00:28:48,736 - And I see the year, and I see the month, 614 00:28:48,736 --> 00:28:50,274 and then it cues in-- 615 00:28:51,196 --> 00:28:53,662 - [Voiceover] A man has an amazing ability. 616 00:28:53,662 --> 00:28:55,338 He can remember almost every moment 617 00:28:55,338 --> 00:28:59,698 from every day of his life, but how? 618 00:29:00,677 --> 00:29:03,496 - Dr. Mary Spiller is a psychologist 619 00:29:03,496 --> 00:29:05,748 at the University of East London. 620 00:29:05,748 --> 00:29:08,098 She believes super memory could be explained 621 00:29:08,098 --> 00:29:12,026 by a medical condition called synesthesia. 622 00:29:12,026 --> 00:29:15,015 - Synesthesia is probably best thought of as 623 00:29:15,015 --> 00:29:17,001 a crossing of the senses. 624 00:29:17,001 --> 00:29:20,088 So, someone with synesthesia, when they hear music 625 00:29:20,088 --> 00:29:22,243 they may see colors, or when they hear words 626 00:29:22,243 --> 00:29:24,037 they might have tastes. 627 00:29:24,037 --> 00:29:25,992 So, for example, the word "tomorrow" might taste 628 00:29:25,992 --> 00:29:30,517 like bacon, the word "computer" might taste like ice cream. 629 00:29:30,517 --> 00:29:34,711 The letter "f" might be a bright pink color, the number "5" 630 00:29:34,711 --> 00:29:37,157 could be a blue color. 631 00:29:37,157 --> 00:29:39,591 And we think that it's probably a hereditary condition, 632 00:29:39,591 --> 00:29:42,944 so people with synesthesia typically-- 633 00:29:42,944 --> 00:29:46,520 other members of the family might also have synesthesia. 634 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,007 Their father, their grandmother might have it. 635 00:29:49,007 --> 00:29:51,313 Research is currently looking to see what genes 636 00:29:51,313 --> 00:29:54,217 are associated with synesthesia. 637 00:29:54,217 --> 00:29:55,605 - [Voiceover] It's an amazing concept. 638 00:29:55,605 --> 00:29:59,054 But how could it result in super memory? 639 00:29:59,054 --> 00:30:01,883 Dr. Spiller believes people like Bob may have a rare form 640 00:30:01,883 --> 00:30:05,737 of the condition, called "time-space synesthesia." 641 00:30:05,737 --> 00:30:08,182 - People with time-space synesthesia see time. 642 00:30:08,182 --> 00:30:10,749 For example, someone may think of the months 643 00:30:10,749 --> 00:30:14,635 of the year as being located in a circle around their body. 644 00:30:14,635 --> 00:30:18,703 So January could be here, and then February, March, 645 00:30:18,703 --> 00:30:21,147 April, May and so on, around their body. 646 00:30:21,147 --> 00:30:24,287 And this can work for years, as well. 647 00:30:24,287 --> 00:30:26,935 - [Voiceover] Could the ability to see time allow people 648 00:30:26,935 --> 00:30:29,998 to keep their memories perfectly organized? 649 00:30:29,998 --> 00:30:31,932 - If you asked a synesthete, "Where is this particular 650 00:30:31,932 --> 00:30:34,360 "Monday in 1978?" they always know where in space 651 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,034 that moment in time is, almost as if they're 652 00:30:38,034 --> 00:30:40,127 looking it up in a filing cabinet. 653 00:30:40,127 --> 00:30:43,147 This gives people with time-space synesthesia an advantage 654 00:30:43,147 --> 00:30:46,169 when it comes to remembering when things happened. 655 00:30:46,169 --> 00:30:47,844 - [Voiceover] Sure enough, when people with super memory 656 00:30:47,844 --> 00:30:50,236 are asked to remember an event, they speak like they're 657 00:30:50,236 --> 00:30:51,731 seeing it. 658 00:30:51,731 --> 00:30:55,116 - When I see where May 1st is, I see the year, and I see the 659 00:30:55,116 --> 00:30:59,258 months, and then it cues into the day, and I say okay-- 660 00:30:59,258 --> 00:31:01,553 - [Voiceover] Could this be proof that Bob and others 661 00:31:01,553 --> 00:31:06,273 with super memory have some sort of time-space synesthesia? 662 00:31:06,273 --> 00:31:09,070 - I think it's definitely possible that other individuals 663 00:31:09,070 --> 00:31:11,269 with highly superior autobiographical memory 664 00:31:11,269 --> 00:31:13,523 could have time-space synesthesia. 665 00:31:13,523 --> 00:31:15,850 Having a 3-D sense of time could potentially have 666 00:31:15,850 --> 00:31:20,270 huge benefits for someone when storing memories. 667 00:31:20,270 --> 00:31:23,570 - [Voiceover] Does the ability to see time explain Bob's 668 00:31:23,570 --> 00:31:28,384 near-total recall, or is it because he has a slightly 669 00:31:28,384 --> 00:31:31,395 different brain from the rest of us? 670 00:31:31,395 --> 00:31:35,238 Or are people with super memory such fans 671 00:31:35,238 --> 00:31:37,299 of their own lives, they can't stand to forget 672 00:31:37,299 --> 00:31:38,879 a minute of it? 673 00:31:38,879 --> 00:31:42,717 Weird, or what? 674 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,915 You know, it was my birthday the other day. 675 00:31:57,915 --> 00:32:02,592 You can see I got some really great presents. 676 00:32:02,592 --> 00:32:05,698 The problem is, with this new-fangled packaging 677 00:32:05,698 --> 00:32:09,567 it's a miracle if you can get them out. 678 00:32:11,485 --> 00:32:13,940 Hang on. 679 00:32:13,940 --> 00:32:17,218 (engine starts) 680 00:32:17,218 --> 00:32:20,432 This should do the job! 681 00:32:20,432 --> 00:32:21,915 (saw buzzes) 682 00:32:21,915 --> 00:32:24,259 Yeah! 683 00:32:32,091 --> 00:32:34,323 Oh, well, at least I got it open. 684 00:32:34,323 --> 00:32:37,579 (jazz music) 685 00:32:37,579 --> 00:32:40,226 But do miracles, even small ones, 686 00:32:40,226 --> 00:32:43,419 have a rational explanation, or are they gifts 687 00:32:43,419 --> 00:32:46,505 from a divine and superior power? 688 00:32:46,505 --> 00:32:49,995 Or are they something else? 689 00:32:49,995 --> 00:32:53,806 In 1993 Julie Spohn was living a happy life 690 00:32:53,806 --> 00:32:57,683 with her children and husband Greg. 691 00:32:57,683 --> 00:33:02,688 But one August night her life was suddenly ripped apart. 692 00:33:03,033 --> 00:33:07,078 - We were having dinner and suddenly Julie 693 00:33:07,078 --> 00:33:10,282 sat down and I heard a cracking sound 694 00:33:10,282 --> 00:33:12,588 like a broken baseball bat. 695 00:33:12,588 --> 00:33:15,747 And saw her head fall to the table. 696 00:33:15,747 --> 00:33:17,606 - [Voiceover] In a horrible freak accident, Julie had 697 00:33:17,606 --> 00:33:22,186 smashed her head on a shelf behind her seat. 698 00:33:22,186 --> 00:33:25,250 - And that's the last time I saw my wife for many years, 699 00:33:25,250 --> 00:33:29,062 as far as the Julie I knew. 700 00:33:29,062 --> 00:33:33,034 - I'd fractured the temporal bone in the back of my head, 701 00:33:33,034 --> 00:33:36,705 which led to a significant brain bleed. 702 00:33:36,705 --> 00:33:38,286 - [Voiceover] It's a very serious injury. 703 00:33:38,286 --> 00:33:43,074 In that moment Julie's world turned upside-down. 704 00:33:44,585 --> 00:33:47,213 - For the next 13 years, to put it bluntly, 705 00:33:47,213 --> 00:33:50,138 my life was pure hell. 706 00:33:50,138 --> 00:33:53,649 I literally had headaches every single day. 707 00:33:53,649 --> 00:33:57,344 I had visual problems, I couldn't walk, 708 00:33:57,344 --> 00:34:00,594 I couldn't sleep. 709 00:34:01,134 --> 00:34:02,853 - [Voiceover] Julie visited some of the best doctors 710 00:34:02,853 --> 00:34:07,076 and specialists in the world, but they were unanimous. 711 00:34:07,316 --> 00:34:10,157 Julie's brain injury would leave her 712 00:34:10,157 --> 00:34:14,218 in excruciating pain for the rest of her life. 713 00:34:14,287 --> 00:34:17,640 - I lived at my lowest point. 714 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,633 Part of me was terrified for my life. 715 00:34:21,633 --> 00:34:25,188 - [Voiceover] Then one afternoon in 2008 Julie sees 716 00:34:25,188 --> 00:34:29,630 a tv show featuring a controversial faith healer. 717 00:34:29,630 --> 00:34:32,361 Immediately she knows something phenomenal 718 00:34:32,361 --> 00:34:35,498 is happening. 719 00:34:35,498 --> 00:34:37,612 - It was just incredible. 720 00:34:37,612 --> 00:34:41,060 I just had a really distinct peace come about me. 721 00:34:41,060 --> 00:34:45,400 And I thought, "I really want to go see this man." 722 00:34:46,890 --> 00:34:49,080 - [Voiceover] The faith healer is Ohio-based 723 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,976 anesthesiologist Dr. Issam Nemeh. 724 00:34:52,976 --> 00:34:57,981 He claims to heal terminal illnesses through prayer. 725 00:34:58,390 --> 00:35:00,994 Two months after seeing him on tv, 726 00:35:00,994 --> 00:35:04,288 Julie decides to meet him. 727 00:35:04,464 --> 00:35:07,806 - And when Dr. Nemeh walked in, I started feeling 728 00:35:07,806 --> 00:35:11,008 a great deal of warmth in my lower back, 729 00:35:11,008 --> 00:35:13,614 (laughs) and I'm automatically thinking, 730 00:35:13,614 --> 00:35:17,793 "Okay, wait a minute, what can be happening already?" 731 00:35:20,586 --> 00:35:22,678 - [Voiceover] Could the power of Dr. Nemeh's prayer 732 00:35:22,678 --> 00:35:25,327 really be having an effect on Julie? 733 00:35:25,327 --> 00:35:27,910 - The life came back into her eyes that had gone 734 00:35:27,910 --> 00:35:29,768 for all these years. 735 00:35:29,768 --> 00:35:32,704 I just saw a total transformation in all aspects 736 00:35:32,704 --> 00:35:37,709 of muscle tone, and color, and warmth, and just life. 737 00:35:39,676 --> 00:35:42,153 It was really amazing. 738 00:35:42,153 --> 00:35:44,161 - [Voiceover] Incredibly, Julie's pain is gone. 739 00:35:44,161 --> 00:35:46,766 The headaches disappear, her vision comes back. 740 00:35:46,766 --> 00:35:48,985 She can move normally again. 741 00:35:48,985 --> 00:35:51,014 - And I said, "I don't think I need this cane anymore." 742 00:35:51,014 --> 00:35:53,032 And I proceeded to walk right out to the car 743 00:35:53,032 --> 00:35:55,200 and get in the car all by myself, 744 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,730 which I couldn't do before. 745 00:35:57,730 --> 00:36:01,659 It was obvious something major had happened. 746 00:36:01,659 --> 00:36:04,584 - [Voiceover] Her doctors can't explain her recovery, 747 00:36:04,584 --> 00:36:08,348 but Julie has no doubts. 748 00:36:08,396 --> 00:36:11,418 - I definitely feel like I received a miracle. 749 00:36:11,418 --> 00:36:14,674 There is no other explanation for it. 750 00:36:14,674 --> 00:36:16,862 - [Voiceover] But Julie is far from alone. 751 00:36:16,862 --> 00:36:20,535 Thousands claim that Nemeh's prayers have healed them. 752 00:36:20,535 --> 00:36:23,739 - The Lord took the pain from me, relieved me of it. 753 00:36:23,739 --> 00:36:27,081 - I had my own personal miracle. 754 00:36:27,081 --> 00:36:29,568 - [Voiceover] From cancer, to multiple sclerosis, 755 00:36:29,568 --> 00:36:32,589 it appears no disease or ailment or condition 756 00:36:32,589 --> 00:36:35,707 is too powerful for Nemeh's healing powers. 757 00:36:35,707 --> 00:36:39,241 As word spreads people travel from all over the world 758 00:36:39,241 --> 00:36:43,768 to attend his services. 759 00:36:43,768 --> 00:36:46,700 But what's happening to people like Julie? 760 00:36:46,700 --> 00:36:49,327 Are they really experiencing miracles at the hands 761 00:36:49,327 --> 00:36:52,069 of a faith healer, or is there recovery an incredible 762 00:36:52,069 --> 00:36:56,351 demonstration of the power of the mind? 763 00:36:56,351 --> 00:36:57,398 - Is it psychological? 764 00:36:57,398 --> 00:36:59,886 Well, of course, It's psychological. 765 00:36:59,886 --> 00:37:01,412 - [Voiceover] An Ohio doctor claims to cure terminal 766 00:37:01,412 --> 00:37:03,718 diseases through prayer. 767 00:37:03,718 --> 00:37:06,996 Is he really a miracle worker? 768 00:37:06,996 --> 00:37:08,757 Gilbert Ross is the medical director 769 00:37:08,757 --> 00:37:11,832 of the American Council on Science and Health. 770 00:37:11,832 --> 00:37:14,267 Being a skeptic is part of his job. 771 00:37:14,267 --> 00:37:19,272 - Merely because a patient undergoes a miraculous 772 00:37:19,339 --> 00:37:23,375 recovery after seeing a faith healer, in no way means 773 00:37:23,375 --> 00:37:26,568 that the faith healer had any actual active 774 00:37:26,568 --> 00:37:30,166 role in the improvement. 775 00:37:30,166 --> 00:37:32,750 - [Voiceover] Ross has a more rational explanation. 776 00:37:32,750 --> 00:37:34,981 He believes the power of healing comes 777 00:37:34,981 --> 00:37:39,986 from the extraordinary power of the human mind. 778 00:37:40,458 --> 00:37:44,856 - The successful faith healing is entirely the result 779 00:37:44,856 --> 00:37:46,694 of the placebo effect. 780 00:37:46,694 --> 00:37:49,415 It's purely dependent upon the patient's belief 781 00:37:49,415 --> 00:37:53,313 that the faith healing is effective. 782 00:37:53,313 --> 00:37:55,223 - [Voiceover] The placebo effect is a recognized 783 00:37:55,223 --> 00:37:58,191 medical phenomenon. 784 00:37:58,191 --> 00:38:03,196 People who believe they are getting treated get better. 785 00:38:03,893 --> 00:38:07,843 Incredibly, in some clinical trials placebos have proven 786 00:38:07,843 --> 00:38:10,769 more effective than surgery. 787 00:38:10,769 --> 00:38:12,905 - If you give the patient a jar of sugar pills 788 00:38:12,905 --> 00:38:14,815 and you encourage them to believe that 789 00:38:14,815 --> 00:38:17,644 it's some sort of medication that will help them, 790 00:38:17,644 --> 00:38:21,178 you can provoke a placebo response, which may have 791 00:38:21,178 --> 00:38:23,826 some actual beneficial effect. 792 00:38:23,826 --> 00:38:27,457 Also, you'll be avoiding any potential for side effects 793 00:38:27,457 --> 00:38:29,645 or complications from giving the patient any sort 794 00:38:29,645 --> 00:38:31,993 of active medication. 795 00:38:31,993 --> 00:38:34,011 Now, the downside of that, and there's a very strong case 796 00:38:34,011 --> 00:38:37,802 to be made, is that this is unethical. 797 00:38:37,802 --> 00:38:42,147 That a doctor who gives a patient a medication, 798 00:38:42,147 --> 00:38:45,980 including a sugar pill as a placebo, knowing that it's 799 00:38:45,980 --> 00:38:49,888 inactive, and yet not telling the patient that, 800 00:38:49,888 --> 00:38:52,995 is lying to the patient. 801 00:38:52,995 --> 00:38:57,554 And whatever the good intentions of that act are, 802 00:38:57,554 --> 00:38:59,881 it's unethical on its face. 803 00:38:59,881 --> 00:39:01,920 - [Voiceover] Nobody knows exactly how it is that placebos 804 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,226 can be so powerful, but it's accepted that the mind 805 00:39:04,226 --> 00:39:07,739 has awesome healing abilities, and that just believing 806 00:39:07,739 --> 00:39:11,177 in a cure is a powerful medicine. 807 00:39:11,177 --> 00:39:14,359 - The placebo effect is real in that a certain percentage 808 00:39:14,359 --> 00:39:17,797 of patients will feel better just from the intervention. 809 00:39:17,797 --> 00:39:19,099 Is it psychological? 810 00:39:19,099 --> 00:39:20,445 Well, of course, it's psychological, 811 00:39:20,445 --> 00:39:22,495 if you're not administering an active ingredient. 812 00:39:22,495 --> 00:39:26,028 But that doesn't mean that it's not real and it doesn't 813 00:39:26,028 --> 00:39:29,563 mean that it's not biochemical or physiological either. 814 00:39:29,563 --> 00:39:34,068 The psyche is an extremely powerful force, 815 00:39:34,068 --> 00:39:36,972 and the brain does indeed manufacture 816 00:39:36,972 --> 00:39:40,367 neurohumerol factors that come into play 817 00:39:40,367 --> 00:39:43,175 in the body's metabolism. 818 00:39:43,175 --> 00:39:44,296 This is well-known. 819 00:39:44,296 --> 00:39:47,125 The anti-depressant pills, the selective serotonin 820 00:39:47,125 --> 00:39:51,429 reuptake inhibitors act on brain chemicals, 821 00:39:51,429 --> 00:39:56,009 so we know very well that mood, and affect, and behavior, 822 00:39:56,009 --> 00:39:58,218 are, to some extent, chemical based. 823 00:39:58,218 --> 00:40:03,120 So why shouldn't a psychological factor generate 824 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,973 chemicals that also help patients to feel better? 825 00:40:06,973 --> 00:40:08,297 - [Voiceover] So can this phenomena explain 826 00:40:08,297 --> 00:40:10,069 Dr. Nemeh's success? 827 00:40:10,069 --> 00:40:13,251 Could faith healing be a placebo that cures 828 00:40:13,251 --> 00:40:16,487 only because people believe? 829 00:40:16,487 --> 00:40:19,315 - Patients who have strong beliefs 830 00:40:19,315 --> 00:40:22,505 in spirituality, including religion, would be 831 00:40:22,505 --> 00:40:26,134 more receptive to all sorts of placebo effects, 832 00:40:26,134 --> 00:40:27,992 including faith healing. 833 00:40:27,992 --> 00:40:31,269 It has to do with some kind of ritual 834 00:40:31,269 --> 00:40:35,957 and the patient's sincere belief that what they're 835 00:40:35,957 --> 00:40:39,865 going through with the faith healer is going to help them. 836 00:40:39,865 --> 00:40:41,796 - [Voiceover] Can the success stories of faith healers 837 00:40:41,796 --> 00:40:46,553 like Dr. Nemeh be explained by medical mind over matter? 838 00:40:47,467 --> 00:40:50,092 - If this was just placebo effect, if it was just temporary, 839 00:40:50,092 --> 00:40:52,184 you would find a handful of stories. 840 00:40:52,184 --> 00:40:56,504 You don't, you have hundreds, you have thousands. 841 00:40:56,552 --> 00:40:58,741 - [Voiceover] Christian radio host Trapper Jack Keller 842 00:40:58,741 --> 00:41:01,037 has no doubt that Dr. Nemeh is performing 843 00:41:01,037 --> 00:41:06,042 bona fide miracles, something he's witnessed firsthand. 844 00:41:06,993 --> 00:41:09,727 - I have retinitis pigmentosa and I'm legally blind. 845 00:41:09,727 --> 00:41:11,660 It's a degenerative retinal disease. 846 00:41:11,660 --> 00:41:15,803 But twice in the 11 years I've know Dr. Nemeh 847 00:41:15,803 --> 00:41:17,563 my vision's been fully restored. 848 00:41:17,563 --> 00:41:20,585 Both amazing, dramatic moments that certainly 849 00:41:20,585 --> 00:41:22,047 got my attention. 850 00:41:22,047 --> 00:41:25,006 I haven't been able to see in the dark since I was 13. 851 00:41:25,006 --> 00:41:27,461 And I get up at 2:30 in the morning to do my radio show 852 00:41:27,461 --> 00:41:29,767 and I actually woke up before my alarm went off, 853 00:41:29,767 --> 00:41:32,202 and I get up and I just suddenly realize 854 00:41:32,202 --> 00:41:32,852 I can see everything. 855 00:41:32,852 --> 00:41:34,903 I can see the dresser, I see the chair, I see the table, 856 00:41:34,903 --> 00:41:37,711 the lamp, the fan, I can see everything. 857 00:41:37,711 --> 00:41:39,344 And I'm looking for the light source. 858 00:41:39,344 --> 00:41:43,316 It's pitch black, where's the light source? 859 00:41:43,316 --> 00:41:44,457 And there was no light source. 860 00:41:44,457 --> 00:41:45,868 It lasted about 60 seconds. 861 00:41:45,868 --> 00:41:47,598 And then the blackness came back. 862 00:41:47,598 --> 00:41:50,587 But for me a beautiful sign of things to come. 863 00:41:50,587 --> 00:41:52,915 And it's my belief that it will come back 864 00:41:52,915 --> 00:41:54,846 when it most serves God. 865 00:41:54,846 --> 00:41:57,451 - [Voiceover] But how can someone perform these cures? 866 00:41:57,451 --> 00:42:01,487 Where does Dr. Nemeh's healing power come from? 867 00:42:01,487 --> 00:42:04,392 - He's not doing the healing, he takes no credit for it. 868 00:42:04,392 --> 00:42:06,025 God does it all. 869 00:42:06,025 --> 00:42:07,905 But he gets to be the spectator. 870 00:42:07,905 --> 00:42:09,699 He gets to watch it happen. 871 00:42:09,699 --> 00:42:12,250 He's the connector. 872 00:42:12,250 --> 00:42:14,043 - [Voiceover] So how does it work? 873 00:42:14,043 --> 00:42:18,244 What does Dr. Nemeh do at his services? 874 00:42:18,389 --> 00:42:20,150 - Something happens. 875 00:42:20,150 --> 00:42:23,599 And it happens over and over again. 876 00:42:23,599 --> 00:42:25,403 Thousands of times over. 877 00:42:25,403 --> 00:42:28,382 I've seen people with MS, I've seen people with blindness. 878 00:42:28,382 --> 00:42:30,636 People who've been told they're gonna die of cancer, 879 00:42:30,636 --> 00:42:33,593 suddenly, literally, in the blink of an eye, 880 00:42:33,593 --> 00:42:36,870 the tumor's gone. 881 00:42:36,870 --> 00:42:39,679 - [Voiceover] For Keller, Dr. Nemeh's healings are part 882 00:42:39,679 --> 00:42:43,350 of a tradition as old as Christianity itself. 883 00:42:43,350 --> 00:42:45,978 - The healing stories are written about in the Bible. 884 00:42:45,978 --> 00:42:47,397 Take it back to Jesus' time. 885 00:42:47,397 --> 00:42:50,184 And then the Apostles were healing. 886 00:42:50,184 --> 00:42:53,857 And you realize that it's always been there. 887 00:42:53,857 --> 00:42:55,415 Absolutely, there are so many stories 888 00:42:55,415 --> 00:42:57,788 about miraculous healings from the Apostles. 889 00:42:57,788 --> 00:43:01,737 Nothing's changed, nothing's changed. 890 00:43:01,737 --> 00:43:03,551 - [Voiceover] But why Dr. Nemeh? 891 00:43:03,551 --> 00:43:08,556 Why is it that he has the gift and not anyone else? 892 00:43:09,243 --> 00:43:11,689 - I believe Dr. Nemeh was put on this earth to help 893 00:43:11,689 --> 00:43:14,987 people find their way to God, 894 00:43:14,987 --> 00:43:18,638 and God gave him that extra portion of faith. 895 00:43:18,638 --> 00:43:22,268 And that faith is being utilized beautifully. 896 00:43:22,268 --> 00:43:26,261 Miracles are happening to get your attention. 897 00:43:26,261 --> 00:43:30,489 - This is an incredible story, but is it just that, 898 00:43:30,489 --> 00:43:32,346 a story? 899 00:43:32,346 --> 00:43:35,838 Do faith healers hold the power to heal the sick 900 00:43:35,838 --> 00:43:38,742 or the dying in the palm of their hands? 901 00:43:38,742 --> 00:43:42,597 Do they possess something that science cannot identify, 902 00:43:42,597 --> 00:43:46,525 something beyond this world? 903 00:43:46,525 --> 00:43:50,491 Or are they less than angels? 904 00:43:51,404 --> 00:43:54,704 Is Dr. Nemeh performing modern-day miracles? 905 00:43:54,704 --> 00:43:58,590 Should we take faith healers seriously? 906 00:43:58,590 --> 00:44:01,142 - Faith healers are either knowing 907 00:44:01,142 --> 00:44:03,484 or unconscious frauds. 908 00:44:06,586 --> 00:44:09,352 - [Voiceover] Thousands of seriously ill people report 909 00:44:09,352 --> 00:44:13,433 being cured at the hands of a faith healer. 910 00:44:13,433 --> 00:44:16,358 Some say it's a miracle. 911 00:44:16,358 --> 00:44:20,911 Others think it's all simply the power of suggestion. 912 00:44:20,940 --> 00:44:23,310 - Faith healers are either knowing 913 00:44:23,310 --> 00:44:24,869 or unconscious frauds, 914 00:44:24,869 --> 00:44:27,632 but they use various conscious tricks to lead people 915 00:44:27,632 --> 00:44:28,936 to believe that they've been healed 916 00:44:28,936 --> 00:44:32,196 when they have not been healed. 917 00:44:32,747 --> 00:44:34,861 - [Voiceover] Terence Hines is a professor 918 00:44:34,861 --> 00:44:38,672 of psychology at Pace University, New York. 919 00:44:38,672 --> 00:44:41,246 He takes a rational approach to Dr. Nemeh's 920 00:44:41,246 --> 00:44:43,221 success stories. 921 00:44:43,221 --> 00:44:44,940 - The patient's own belief that they're going to cured 922 00:44:44,940 --> 00:44:46,990 I think certainly plays a role. 923 00:44:46,990 --> 00:44:49,061 Getting people excited so that they won't feel pain 924 00:44:49,061 --> 00:44:52,421 through, perhaps, endorphin release, is another trick. 925 00:44:52,421 --> 00:44:54,749 Endorphins are the body's natural pain killers. 926 00:44:54,749 --> 00:44:57,439 They're released under situations of high stress 927 00:44:57,439 --> 00:44:59,905 and arousal, so the patient will in fact believe, 928 00:44:59,905 --> 00:45:03,481 incorrectly, that they've been cured. 929 00:45:03,481 --> 00:45:08,361 Hines has spent time undercover investigating faith healers. 930 00:45:08,361 --> 00:45:11,895 He found that in some cases they relied on trickery. 931 00:45:11,895 --> 00:45:13,945 We went undercover at a faith healing meeting 932 00:45:13,945 --> 00:45:16,944 held in Brooklyn, New York. 933 00:45:16,944 --> 00:45:18,750 And about halfway through the healing session 934 00:45:18,750 --> 00:45:20,779 an elderly gentleman was brought up on stage 935 00:45:20,779 --> 00:45:22,774 in a wheelchair. 936 00:45:22,774 --> 00:45:25,636 The faith healer laid his hands on this gentleman 937 00:45:25,636 --> 00:45:27,845 in the wheelchair and bade him walk, 938 00:45:27,845 --> 00:45:29,982 and this gentleman got out of his wheelchair, 939 00:45:29,982 --> 00:45:32,629 walked up and down the stage to great applause. 940 00:45:32,629 --> 00:45:34,486 It was a miracle. 941 00:45:34,486 --> 00:45:36,601 But, in fact, one of the other members of the team 942 00:45:36,601 --> 00:45:39,323 had noticed this gentleman walk into the meeting hall 943 00:45:39,323 --> 00:45:42,762 under his own power earlier in the performance. 944 00:45:42,762 --> 00:45:45,014 As he neared the stage one of the faith healers 945 00:45:45,014 --> 00:45:47,502 assistants walked up to him and said, 946 00:45:47,502 --> 00:45:49,434 "Sir, would you like a wheelchair?" 947 00:45:49,434 --> 00:45:51,175 So this gentleman sits in the wheelchair, 948 00:45:51,175 --> 00:45:53,661 45 minutes later he finds himself brought up 949 00:45:53,661 --> 00:45:55,915 onstage and asked to walk. 950 00:45:55,915 --> 00:45:57,238 Well, he can walk! 951 00:45:57,238 --> 00:45:59,823 And he doesn't have the power to grab the microphone 952 00:45:59,823 --> 00:46:00,848 from the healer and say, 953 00:46:00,848 --> 00:46:03,772 "Well, but I walked in here by myself." 954 00:46:03,772 --> 00:46:05,588 That's a miracle as performed. 955 00:46:05,588 --> 00:46:07,424 At the end of the meeting the faith healer 956 00:46:07,424 --> 00:46:09,633 did something that I find reprehensible. 957 00:46:09,633 --> 00:46:12,464 He said, "Even if you haven't been called up 958 00:46:12,464 --> 00:46:15,677 "tonight, you're all cured. You go home, 959 00:46:15,677 --> 00:46:17,973 "you throw away that medicine. 960 00:46:17,973 --> 00:46:20,364 "You don't need your insulin any more. 961 00:46:20,364 --> 00:46:21,806 "You don't need that heart medicine. 962 00:46:21,806 --> 00:46:23,717 "You've been cured by Dr. Jesus! 963 00:46:23,717 --> 00:46:25,810 "Throw that medicine away!" 964 00:46:25,810 --> 00:46:28,019 That's disgraceful. 965 00:46:28,019 --> 00:46:30,591 - [ Voiceover] But why would some faith healers set out 966 00:46:30,591 --> 00:46:32,130 to dupe people. 967 00:46:32,130 --> 00:46:37,135 According to Hines it's a profitable game. 968 00:46:37,222 --> 00:46:38,771 - All faith healers that I've come across 969 00:46:38,771 --> 00:46:42,028 don't charge admission to their services. 970 00:46:42,028 --> 00:46:43,799 It's free. 971 00:46:43,799 --> 00:46:47,749 But during the service they certainly ask for donations. 972 00:46:47,749 --> 00:46:49,489 At the faith healing meeting I went to, I became 973 00:46:49,489 --> 00:46:53,996 a volunteer usher, and I was given a collection bucket. 974 00:46:53,996 --> 00:46:55,042 Yea big. 975 00:46:55,042 --> 00:46:56,901 And I thought, "They're crazy if they're gonna 976 00:46:56,901 --> 00:46:59,270 "get this thing filled with money." 977 00:46:59,270 --> 00:47:00,711 I was the crazy one. 978 00:47:00,711 --> 00:47:02,782 I was pushing the 50, 100 dollar bills 979 00:47:02,782 --> 00:47:05,248 and 20 dollar bills down into the bucket. 980 00:47:05,248 --> 00:47:09,200 I think I probably cleared about 6,000 dollars. 981 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:09,894 Now there were 12 ushers. 982 00:47:09,894 --> 00:47:12,403 12 times 6 is 72,000 dollars taken out 983 00:47:12,403 --> 00:47:14,570 of that community in one night. 984 00:47:14,570 --> 00:47:18,307 I could call it a license to steal. 985 00:47:18,307 --> 00:47:19,609 Because, at least in the United States, 986 00:47:19,609 --> 00:47:21,839 since they are a religious entity, they are exempt 987 00:47:21,839 --> 00:47:24,606 from any and all taxes, so there's no income tax 988 00:47:24,606 --> 00:47:26,913 on this money. 989 00:47:26,913 --> 00:47:28,951 So, yes, it's a license to steal. 990 00:47:28,951 --> 00:47:30,841 And, at least in the United States, they are probably 991 00:47:30,841 --> 00:47:33,488 not, in fact, doing anything illegal. 992 00:47:33,488 --> 00:47:36,830 I'm not sure I could, not being a lawyer, 993 00:47:36,830 --> 00:47:39,479 could draft a law that would be Constitutional, 994 00:47:39,479 --> 00:47:41,528 and make it illegal. 995 00:47:41,528 --> 00:47:43,429 - [Voiceover] Hines believes it's easy to hoodwink people 996 00:47:43,429 --> 00:47:45,896 into believing they've been cured. 997 00:47:45,896 --> 00:47:47,645 To prove it, he's set up a demonstration 998 00:47:47,645 --> 00:47:50,294 of the power of suggestion. 999 00:47:50,294 --> 00:47:53,913 - So we have an actor who will play a doctor, 1000 00:47:53,913 --> 00:47:55,451 a healer, and one of the gimmicks that he has 1001 00:47:55,451 --> 00:47:57,287 is a neural stimulator. 1002 00:47:57,287 --> 00:48:01,707 The patient will be told this will reduce their pain. 1003 00:48:01,707 --> 00:48:04,237 - [Voiceover] In fact, the neurostimulator is a classic 1004 00:48:04,237 --> 00:48:06,235 placebo, a prop that does nothing. 1005 00:48:06,235 --> 00:48:09,908 - And what we expect to find is that a number of people, 1006 00:48:09,908 --> 00:48:11,701 not everybody, but a number of people will say, 1007 00:48:11,701 --> 00:48:14,433 "My God, my pain's really gone! 1008 00:48:14,433 --> 00:48:16,996 "I can feel that." 1009 00:48:16,996 --> 00:48:18,480 - [Voiceover] The first volunteer reports a pain 1010 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:19,922 in her ankle. 1011 00:48:19,922 --> 00:48:22,665 Our fake doctor assures her he can help. 1012 00:48:22,665 --> 00:48:24,757 - So I'm gonna turn it on. 1013 00:48:24,757 --> 00:48:26,829 I want you to keep breathing and when I turn it on 1014 00:48:26,829 --> 00:48:29,061 you're gonna feel the energy coming out through your head. 1015 00:48:29,061 --> 00:48:31,671 Okay? Here we go. 1016 00:48:33,732 --> 00:48:36,336 Do you feel the difference that this is making already? 1017 00:48:36,336 --> 00:48:39,936 - Yeah, it feels-- it's relaxing. 1018 00:48:39,936 --> 00:48:41,750 - Phenomenal, look at that! 1019 00:48:41,750 --> 00:48:43,149 She's moving it already, right? 1020 00:48:43,149 --> 00:48:44,866 - Yeah, I didn't see how it would work, 1021 00:48:44,866 --> 00:48:48,477 but actually I had a pain right at the top of my foot, 1022 00:48:48,477 --> 00:48:51,221 and I couldn't even bend it, but now it seems 1023 00:48:51,221 --> 00:48:53,036 to be better. 1024 00:48:53,036 --> 00:48:56,399 I can move it, it doesn't hurt as bad any more. 1025 00:48:56,399 --> 00:48:58,033 - [Voiceover] Hine's theory seems to prove correct 1026 00:48:58,033 --> 00:49:00,722 as volunteer after volunteer are easily decieved 1027 00:49:00,722 --> 00:49:02,580 by the fake doctor. 1028 00:49:02,580 --> 00:49:06,064 So much so, he feels it might have been a profitable day. 1029 00:49:06,064 --> 00:49:08,157 - The people who reported a positive change 1030 00:49:08,157 --> 00:49:10,057 probably would have given a donation. 1031 00:49:10,057 --> 00:49:12,864 Not a huge amount, because they didn't come 1032 00:49:12,864 --> 00:49:15,214 prepared for that, but, yes. 1033 00:49:15,214 --> 00:49:19,079 I suspect a donation could have been wrung from them. 1034 00:49:19,079 --> 00:49:23,211 - [Voiceover] So, are faith healers con men who prey 1035 00:49:23,211 --> 00:49:28,216 on the weak and vulnerable, or can healers like Dr. Nemeh 1036 00:49:28,304 --> 00:49:32,467 channel science-defying miracles into ailing bodies? 1037 00:49:32,467 --> 00:49:36,247 Or is it simply that our own minds are so medically potent 1038 00:49:36,247 --> 00:49:38,991 that people like Julie can heal themselves 1039 00:49:38,991 --> 00:49:41,830 with the power of belief? 1040 00:49:41,830 --> 00:49:45,311 Weird or what? 1041 00:49:45,311 --> 00:49:49,096 (dramatic music) 1042 00:49:57,792 --> 00:49:59,149 So there we have it. 1043 00:49:59,149 --> 00:50:01,700 Three stories exploring the untapped power 1044 00:50:01,700 --> 00:50:04,625 of the human mind. 1045 00:50:04,625 --> 00:50:08,394 A woman's paranormal vision helps solve a murder. 1046 00:50:08,394 --> 00:50:13,114 Can horrific crimes be solved by psychic powers? 1047 00:50:13,114 --> 00:50:15,324 A Californian man can remember nearly every moment 1048 00:50:15,324 --> 00:50:18,388 from every day of his life. 1049 00:50:18,388 --> 00:50:22,359 Can we all, one day, have total recall? 1050 00:50:22,359 --> 00:50:26,641 And a faith healer cures terminal illnesses through prayer. 1051 00:50:26,641 --> 00:50:30,175 Is it a modern-day miracle, or an awesome demonstration 1052 00:50:30,175 --> 00:50:32,747 of mind over matter? 1053 00:50:32,747 --> 00:50:35,032 You decide. 1054 00:50:35,032 --> 00:50:37,307 Join me again next time for more stories 1055 00:50:37,307 --> 00:50:42,312 that will undoubtedly be weird or what. 1056 00:50:43,115 --> 00:50:46,643 (dramatic music) 83475

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