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- You know, I've been around for awhile,
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met some interesting people,
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done some crazy things.
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So you just might think
that there's not much
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that can take me by surprise.
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You'd be wrong.
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The world is full of stories,
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science, and things that amaze
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and confound me.
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Every single day,
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incredible mysteries that
keep me awake at night,
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some I can answer,
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others just defy logic.
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Is there life after death?
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In Connecticut,
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a man visits a Civil War battlefield
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where he is suddenly
overcome with emotion.
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- To this day, I don't understand
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what exactly happened.
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- [William] Is he the reincarnation
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of a dead general?
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In Haiti, 18 years after his death,
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a man returns from the grave.
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- This individual had
clearly been pronounced dead
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by the doctors.
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- [William] Do zombies really exist?
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And in a remarkable experiment,
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scientists in England conduct a series
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of groundbreaking seances.
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Is it our first genuine proof
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of the afterlife?
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It's a weird world.
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And I love it.
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(dramatic music)
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Death.
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Not exactly pretty.
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Especially when you consider
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that one day, all of us
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could end up looking like this.
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But should we simply
accept this as our fate
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or is there something else that awaits us?
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Since the dawn of time,
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humans have been obsessed with the idea
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that there's something more than
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this.
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Well...
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Is there?
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Do our lives go on
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even if we die?
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Can we return and communicate
with our loved ones
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here on earth?
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Is there life after life?
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And perhaps the most
important question of all,
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can we prove it?
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Well, just maybe we can.
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(spooky organ music)
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Jeffrey Keene is a retired firefighter.
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In 1990, he decided to visit the site
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of the famous Battle of Antietam,
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one of the bloodiest encounters
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of the Civil War.
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And a place where thousands
died in just one day.
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- I was traveling down
through Pennsylvania
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with my wife, antique hunting,
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and I asked my wife if it was okay
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to take a little side trip
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over to Antietam to see the battlefield.
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- [William] But what
begins as a fun day out
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will soon turn into a nightmare.
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- My wife wasn't very much into history
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so she remained in the car,
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and I walked over to where the battle
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had taken place at the sunken road.
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I had gone about 50 feet
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when it became very hard to breathe.
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I started crying, I was very angry,
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I was very sad.
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If you take the saddest you've ever been,
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and magnify that by
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that gets close.
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I was exhausted,
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I couldn't tell exactly what was going on,
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I thought I was maybe
having a heart attack,
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but I didn't have any pain.
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- [William] Overcome by a wave
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of violent emotions,
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Jeffrey then has a powerful urge
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to visit the gift shop.
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- I felt compelled to go there.
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I threw a magazine on the counter,
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and I said, I want this,
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and it was a Civil War quarterly magazine
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on Antietam.
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To this day, I don't understand
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what exactly happened.
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- [William] For the next 18 months
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Jeffrey's life returns to normal.
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Until one night,
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when he attends a Halloween party.
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- It was a really nice party,
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they had spent a lot of money
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on the decorations,
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they had hired a palm reader,
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and I sat down in front of this woman,
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and she took my hands,
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and I told her the story of what happened
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in Antietam.
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- [William] As Jeff tells his story,
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the palm reader suddenly becomes uneasy.
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- She's sitting there shaking her head,
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and she dropped my hands a few times.
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- [William] And then
she drops a bombshell.
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She believes Jeffrey was at Antietam
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in a previous life.
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- She said, "You died there,
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"but you hung around for a long time."
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I said, "Just let me ask you one question,
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"are you sure he was dead."
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She said he was full of holes.
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That's one thing I'll never forget.
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- [William] The bizarre
encounter will lead Jeffrey
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on a journey in search of the truth.
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- The next day, I took my wife to work,
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and I remembered the magazine
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that I had to have,
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had it for a year and a half,
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and hadn't read it.
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I opened it up to the section on Antietam
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where I had had the experience,
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and my eyes skimmed down the page,
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and I see a photograph of a general.
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- [William] As Jeffrey
stares at the photo,
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he is stunned by what he sees.
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- I look over, and this picture says
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General John B. Gordon,
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and when I see the face,
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I tell people I know the face very well,
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I shaved it every morning.
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Unless you're unfeeling, unthinking
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completely drained of any type of emotion
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it's going to have a
bit of an effect on you
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even if it's just awe and wonder.
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- [William] Remarkably,
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Jeffrey is a double for John B. Gordon,
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but as he reads on
things get even weirder.
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- I read in the story he
had been wounded five times
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that day, he was shot through the face
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and I figured he had
probably been killed there.
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- [William] John B. Gordon was a general
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of the 6th Alabama regiment.
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A hero who was shot in the
bloody battle of Antietam.
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Could there be a link between Jeffrey
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and a general who had died
nearly 200 years before him?
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Suddenly, Jeffrey makes
another startling connection.
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- It was on my 30th birthday,
at 12 midnight I got
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such a horrendous pain in my jaw,
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it radiated down into my neck.
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I know what it feels like
to be shot through the face,
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that's how bad it hurt.
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- [William] Was Jeffrey's mysterious pain
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somehow related to
General Gordon's injuries?
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- Gordon was 30 years old when he was shot
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through the face, same age.
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That was 10, 15 years before
I ever heard Gordon's name.
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It wasn't like this was worked backwards.
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I heard about Gordon's wounding,
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I went over to the
hospital made them fudge up
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some documents that mimicked the wound
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that Gordon had more
than 100 years before.
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Kind of hard to do and
I have the documents
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to prove the hospital visit.
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- [William] Could all these
remarkable similarities
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be explained by coincidence?
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Jeffrey believes there's only one answer.
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- I don't need any more proof
that there's reincarnation
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because of all the things
that happened to me.
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We never die, we're continuous.
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We always have been, we always will be.
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That's how Gordon found me at Antietam.
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I always say it's the other way around
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from what people think, I say Gordon
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found me where our hearts
touched at Antietam.
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- What an extraordinary story.
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Did a Civil War general
who died over a century ago
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reincarnate, jump into
Jeffrey Keene's body
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and continue his life
through Jeffrey's eyes?
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Are we all in a continuous cycle
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of birth and rebirth,
simply interchanging bodies
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as we go, and if so,
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this raises yet another question.
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Do we get to choose?
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I mean who was I before I was
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who I am now and who will I be next?
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Could I be you?
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Now that is definitely Weird or What?
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Dr. Cynthia Meyersburg is
a Harvard psychologist.
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She believes reincarnation
is simply a function
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of how we deal with memories.
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- Something odd happens
and people go looking,
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as we all do, to make
sense of their lives.
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If you have a rich imaginability,
it becomes very difficult
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to distinguish between
something that's a record
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of perception or a record of imagination.
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Did I dream that or did it happen?
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Did I hear about that, or did
I actually experience that?
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It can be very difficult.
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- [William] Cynthia believes
that one way we do this
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is by creating false memories.
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- False memories are what they sound like.
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They're recollections for either events
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that didn't take place
or didn't take place
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in the way in which they're remembered.
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- [William] Are people
like Jeffrey just making
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these stories up?
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If so, why?
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- Memory, although it feels a lot of times
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as though we're watching
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that's not what's really happening.
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We're always reconstructing
it from little pieces
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we have saved in a sense,
and we put it back together
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and our brain fills in
for us the missing parts.
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- [William] Researchers
have been able to study
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this phenomenon.
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- It's possible to induce false memories
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in a matter of moments.
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For instance, if someone
sees a doctored photograph
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showing him or her as a
child in a hot air balloon,
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people can very quickly
form memories for it.
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The way we measure false memory propensity
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in the lab is we use something called
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the DRM, or the
Deese-Roediger-McDermott paradigm.
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What the paradigm consists
of is we present people
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with lists of words.
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In our lab they listen to them.
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Then they're asked to
write down without guessing
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only those words they're
certain they've heard.
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What makes the task tricky
is that each list of words,
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there is a word that isn't
on the list but is related
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to all the words on the list.
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So the words might be sour, bitter,
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sugar, honey, and so forth,
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but the word sweet is never said.
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In the lab, past life memory participants
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were much more likely to
endorse having heard words
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that they didn't actually hear.
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However, they were no different in terms
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of being able to correctly identify words
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that they did hear.
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So they were more likely
to have false memories
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of words they didn't hear,
but their true memory
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looked just like the control participants.
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I interpret it to mean that although
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there is no difference in ability
to form true recollections
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and true memories, there's
an increased vulnerability
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to form memories for events
that perhaps did not occur.
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- [William] Can Jeffrey
Keene's claim of reincarnation
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be dismissed as a series
of false memories?
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Does it explain what struck him down?
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- People come to believe
they have past lives
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because something weird happens,
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something that's outside of the norm
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in some way for them that they need
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an explanation for.
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- [William] Is reincarnation real
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or simply a product of our minds?
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Do we all have past,
present, and future lives?
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- We know so little about
the nature of reality
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that I think it'd be very, very foolish
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to say that this cannot happen.
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- [William] An emotional
collapse at a Civil War
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battleground leads a man to believe he is
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the reincarnation of a dead general.
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Is it possible we all have past lives?
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Tariq Sattaur is a facilitator
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at the Ontario Hypnosis Centre.
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He not only believes reincarnation's real,
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he can demonstrate it
using a process called
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past life regression.
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- Past life regression
is a series of steps
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that you go through in
order to access memories
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from previous lifetimes.
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It is allowing the conscious
mind to be put aside
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for a while, as you access
the subconscious mind.
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Begin by just lightly
closing your eyes now.
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- [William] Tariq is
preparing a patient, Karen,
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to travel back not only
deep into her own past,
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but to lives she may have lived before
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and from where he can access her memories.
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- Imagine if you will
above your head is a point
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of absolutely pure white light.
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It starts by first taking the client back
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through age regression
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and typically it's
about 14 or 15 years old
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and then to three or four years old.
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- I'm on my mom's lap and I'm getting
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all of her attention.
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- [William] Karen has now
gone back over 30 years.
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The next step will take
her into what is known
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as blue mist, a space in
between her current life
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and the one she lived before.
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- [Tariq] Take a deep breath now
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and go beyond the blue
mist finding yourself
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at a still earlier time.
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- [William] Incredibly
it appears Karen has
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now entered a former life.
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- I am climbing rocks
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and there's a forest nearby.
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- [Tariq] Are you male or female?
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- I'm male.
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I think I'm hunting.
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- Okay.
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- [William] Tariq believes
what Karen is seeing is real.
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- They're interacting, they're in the body
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of that past life, they can
see out of that person's eyes.
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It's very, very personal.
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- [William] To complete
the session, Tariq must
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reverse the process and bring Karen back
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into her current life and present age.
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- [Tariq] And one, eyes open, back.
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- [William] Did Karen actually
visit her former life?
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Is past life regression evidence
that reincarnation is real?
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Dr. Stuart Hameroff is a scientist.
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He believes the only
way to find real proof
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of reincarnation is by using science.
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- There's a lot of anecdotal evidence
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for apparent reincarnation
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but it's been dismissed
because it seems irrational.
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Now we have a theory,
a possible explanation
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so I think all this evidence
needs to be reevaluated
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and considered seriously.
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- [William] Hameroff's theory concerns one
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of the greatest mysteries of
both religion and science,
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the soul.
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- I think the soul is our
consciousness, the sum total
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of our memories and conscious awareness
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and I think it can exist
outside the body after life,
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and possibly in reincarnation.
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- [William] But even more remarkable is
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that Hameroff thinks the soul exists
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as a series of information,
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quantifiable by physics.
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- I think a quantum
version of consciousness
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can give rise to something
like a quantum soul
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that can account for a lot
of these anecdotal stories
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that we've been hearing for eons.
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- [William] Many scientists
believe consciousness
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exists with cells in the
brain, but Hameroff thinks
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it exists on a subatomic
level in quantum particles
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that can stay connected and survive death.
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- When a patient has a cardiac arrest
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and is resuscitated,
they often tell a story
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of a white light, a
tunnel, and in many cases
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floating above their body looking down
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on what's going on.
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This could be consciousness
as quantum information
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dissipating, when the
patient's resuscitated
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the quantum information goes back
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and the patient wakes
up and reports having
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had a near death experience and perhaps
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even an out-of-body experience.
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- [William] It's an incredible theory,
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but if our souls do exist in quantum form,
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how are they reincarnated?
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- It's conceivable that
this quantum information,
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the quantum soul if you
will, could reenter an embryo
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which would be reincarnation.
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- [William] Do our souls
consist of information
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that can travel, even into an embryo?
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Have we solved one of the greatest
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mysteries in the universe?
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- We know so little about
the nature of reality
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that I think it'd be very, very foolish
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to say that this cannot happen
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and with the anecdotal evidence
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from reincarnation and memories
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and past life and so forth, it seems to me
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that it may be more logical to assume
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that it does occur.
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- [William] Was Jeffrey
Keene the reincarnation
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of a long-dead general?
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Or did false memories
convince him it was true?
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Does the soul exist
independent of our bodies?
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Can we visit past lives, and
if we can, what will we find?
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Weird or what?
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Scientists in England conduct a series
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of groundbreaking experiments.
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Did they find the first
genuine proof of the afterlife?
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Hello.
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Hello?
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I don't know about you,
but I've always been scared
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of things that go bump in the night.
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(glass breaks)
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(cat meows)
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Fred!
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(cat meows)
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Most of them we can explain,
but what about those we can't?
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Are we surrounded by spiritual entities,
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the remains of those that have passed
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from this life?
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Are they what we call
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ghosts?
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And if they are there,
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are they friendly?
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and
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can we
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communicate with them?
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(glass breaks)
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(cat meows)
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Fred!
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Phew!
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In 1993, a team of researchers
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in the town of Scole, United Kingdom
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set out to find indisputable evidence
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of life after death.
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Conducting a series of
extraordinary seances
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they witnessed paranormal events
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that would mystify science.
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They called it the Scole Experiment.
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- What we didn't know
was that it was going
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to become very, very special and work
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in a pioneering way and to provide proof
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of life after death.
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- [William] Robin Foy lead the seances.
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He believes the experiment was unique
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because of their attempts to make sure
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it was credible.
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- It was important for us to show
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to the outside world that we'd taken
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every security precaution that we could
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to ensure the work was fraud proof.
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- [William] To conquer
the skeptics, the seances
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were held in the supposedly
impenetrable cellar
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of a suburban house.
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- The whole place was brick.
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There were no trap doors.
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The only door into the
cellar was locked internally.
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Each one of us would
wear luminous armbands
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so that everybody who
was present could see
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that no one moved.
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We were using a table which
was actually fraud proof
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so nobody could get under
it and do anything at all.
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We were seeking to
actually get viable proof
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that we live on after we die.
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- [William] The Scole Experiment began
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in November 1993.
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As Robin Foy and his team
assembled in their cellar
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they had no idea what might happen.
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But it didn't take long to find out.
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- After a short while,
the spirit lights come,
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little lights about the size
of a pea or slightly larger,
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very bright and they would
sort of perform aerobatics.
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Later on there were spirit
voices speaking from midair.
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We were able to hear on a one to one basis
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all of the spirit people.
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Everybody in that room
would be regularly touched
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by spirit hands.
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- [William] As the experiment continues,
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the team is amazed as
the paranormal activity
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becomes more intense.
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- All sorts of different
things would materialize
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in midair and then fall
down onto the table.
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We would hear the bangers hit the table,
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we may actually have
solid spirit personalities
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moving around in the room, we were pushing
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the bounds of psychic
research further forward
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than anyone had been able to produce
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or witness anywhere in the past.
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- [William] Encouraged by the success,
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Foy decided to try
something extraordinary.
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Something that would prove they had made
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contact with the afterlife.
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- We were doing an experiment with a film
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that was still in its plastic container
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and we would have this
locked into a security box
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to ensure that nothing was ever done by us
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to that film.
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It was a remarkable and ambitious idea.
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The team hoped a spirit might somehow
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implant an image on the
film inside the box.
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If so, it could be the
proof they were looking for.
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When they finally checked
the film, they couldn't
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believe their eyes.
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- That was quite amazing.
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We had hundreds of
photographs that were produced
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to show us various aspects
of the spirit world itself.
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Some of them were so
fantastic they really would
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knock your socks off.
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- [William] But there was one photograph
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that was different from the rest.
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A haunting image of what seemed to be
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a woman's face.
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- You can actually see on this one
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areas of this person's face.
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- [William] Who is the woman?
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And how did her image appear on the film?
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Foy believes this chilling incident makes
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the Scole experiment the
definitive exploration
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into the presence of the afterlife.
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- The Scole Experiment, I
think, was very, very important
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because it went further than
anybody had ever been able
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to go before in proving the real existence
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of life after death.
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- [William] Despite his
claims, many skeptics
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doubted the results.
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Did Robin Foy and his
team of researchers make
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contact with the other side?
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Is the Scole Experiment proof
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that there's life after death?
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Or could it have been an elaborate fake?
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One way to find out is
to try it for ourselves.
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(people scream)
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A UK research team experiences
a remarkable series
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of paranormal events
during a series of seances.
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Did they find proof of life after death?
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Brian Dunning is a scientific journalist.
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He believes the events of
Scole were nothing more
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than an illusion.
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- Here's the problem with seances is that
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seances have existed as a magic trick
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for 200 years.
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They are an illusionist
giving the impression
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that spirits are in the room.
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They are a magic trick.
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It's almost impossible
to envision a seance
525
00:24:58,255 --> 00:25:01,008
being done seriously by people.
526
00:25:01,298 --> 00:25:02,770
They're always performances.
527
00:25:03,120 --> 00:25:06,754
So that's why, yeah, it's hard
to take a seance seriously.
528
00:25:08,205 --> 00:25:10,848
- What we are trying to
recreate are the famous
529
00:25:10,848 --> 00:25:12,840
Scole Experiments.
530
00:25:14,491 --> 00:25:16,624
- [William] Was the Scole
Experiment a magic trick?
531
00:25:17,274 --> 00:25:20,678
To test Dunning's theory,
we've set up a fake seance
532
00:25:20,678 --> 00:25:23,110
using a professional illusionist.
533
00:25:23,941 --> 00:25:25,502
To create the conditions at Scole,
534
00:25:25,502 --> 00:25:28,115
the participants are
sitting in pitch darkness.
535
00:25:28,946 --> 00:25:31,488
Using night vision
cameras, we can see them,
536
00:25:31,488 --> 00:25:33,701
but they can see nothing at all.
537
00:25:34,652 --> 00:25:37,765
- The session begins with
everyone holding hands.
538
00:25:38,295 --> 00:25:40,550
Give me your hand here and your hand here.
539
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,484
Please do not break the
psychic circle at any time
540
00:25:45,484 --> 00:25:47,516
during the seance.
541
00:25:47,727 --> 00:25:49,278
Spirits,
542
00:25:50,449 --> 00:25:52,201
are you with us tonight?
543
00:25:54,894 --> 00:25:56,055
- [William] The Scole Experiment claimed
544
00:25:56,055 --> 00:25:58,648
that spirit voices seemed
to come from midair.
545
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,823
The illusionist will
attempt to recreate them
546
00:26:03,823 --> 00:26:07,096
with an assistant using a cardboard tube
547
00:26:07,707 --> 00:26:08,838
as a megaphone.
548
00:26:12,576 --> 00:26:13,787
- Speak to us.
549
00:26:18,251 --> 00:26:21,514
- [William] Faking disembodied
voices seems simple.
550
00:26:23,166 --> 00:26:24,312
- Charles, the name Charles.
551
00:26:24,903 --> 00:26:27,065
- [William] But can they
convince these participants
552
00:26:27,065 --> 00:26:30,048
they are being physically
touched by spirits
553
00:26:30,048 --> 00:26:32,205
as claimed by the people at Scole?
554
00:26:32,205 --> 00:26:34,848
- My spirit guide I'm going
to ask my spirit guide,
555
00:26:34,848 --> 00:26:37,988
Francene will you give us
556
00:26:37,988 --> 00:26:40,280
a physical manifestation?
557
00:26:40,530 --> 00:26:42,713
I want Francene to come towards the center
558
00:26:42,713 --> 00:26:43,311
of the table.
559
00:26:43,311 --> 00:26:43,932
- Whoa.
560
00:26:43,932 --> 00:26:45,703
- Whoa what?
561
00:26:46,754 --> 00:26:47,454
What happened?
562
00:26:49,747 --> 00:26:50,817
(people scream)
563
00:26:50,817 --> 00:26:52,208
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
564
00:26:53,740 --> 00:26:55,762
- [William] The final trick centers around
565
00:26:55,762 --> 00:26:58,594
the claim that objects
materialized out of thin air.
566
00:27:00,526 --> 00:27:03,239
Is this so easy to disprove?
567
00:27:04,510 --> 00:27:06,102
- Leave us now!
568
00:27:06,793 --> 00:27:07,844
Leave us!
569
00:27:09,075 --> 00:27:10,406
(people scream)
570
00:27:12,839 --> 00:27:14,310
- [William] The experiment is over.
571
00:27:14,801 --> 00:27:17,083
Even though his seance was badly faked
572
00:27:17,083 --> 00:27:20,236
the participants are left visibly shaken.
573
00:27:20,807 --> 00:27:21,526
- Nobody's laughing.
574
00:27:21,526 --> 00:27:23,458
Everybody's took that
completely seriously.
575
00:27:23,869 --> 00:27:25,801
It was a very powerful
experience for these people.
576
00:27:26,411 --> 00:27:28,013
- [William] Although the
participants were fooled,
577
00:27:28,013 --> 00:27:31,456
Brian believes this proves
the Scole Experiment
578
00:27:31,456 --> 00:27:32,427
was a hoax.
579
00:27:33,078 --> 00:27:34,339
- We saw a few of the things today
580
00:27:34,339 --> 00:27:36,160
that were reported from
the Scole Experiments.
581
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,873
We've seen that those can be easily faked.
582
00:27:39,664 --> 00:27:41,184
Do we know that they faked them at Scole?
583
00:27:41,184 --> 00:27:43,225
No, of course not, because
no controls were applied.
584
00:27:43,225 --> 00:27:44,997
We don't know what actually happened.
585
00:27:45,547 --> 00:27:47,629
But when we see how easy it is to fake it,
586
00:27:47,629 --> 00:27:50,242
how can we know that these
could have been real?
587
00:27:51,373 --> 00:27:53,495
- Could the greatest
experiment into the existence
588
00:27:53,495 --> 00:27:56,197
of the afterlife be just
an illusionist's game?
589
00:27:56,197 --> 00:28:01,202
No doubt, magic tricks are easy to perform
590
00:28:01,321 --> 00:28:04,284
and many of the claims made at Scole have
591
00:28:04,284 --> 00:28:06,476
been dismissed out of hand.
592
00:28:08,769 --> 00:28:12,122
But the biggest mystery of
all still remains unanswered.
593
00:28:14,674 --> 00:28:16,286
Who is this woman?
594
00:28:17,017 --> 00:28:18,618
And how did her image
appear on a roll of film
595
00:28:18,618 --> 00:28:20,310
that was locked inside a box?
596
00:28:20,961 --> 00:28:24,254
Even Houdini would have
trouble with that one.
597
00:28:28,168 --> 00:28:30,620
Peter Sramek is a photography expert.
598
00:28:32,132 --> 00:28:34,314
We asked him to examine images
599
00:28:34,314 --> 00:28:35,976
from the Scole Experiment and try
600
00:28:35,976 --> 00:28:38,708
to unlock one of its biggest mysteries.
601
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:44,084
- As I understand it,
the film was put into
602
00:28:44,084 --> 00:28:47,808
this box and locked away and the exposure,
603
00:28:47,808 --> 00:28:49,529
the effect on the film was supposed
604
00:28:49,529 --> 00:28:53,080
to have happened while the
film was locked up in this box.
605
00:28:54,792 --> 00:28:58,285
My first reaction was this is
an interesting manipulation.
606
00:28:58,675 --> 00:29:00,778
I assumed it was something
that would have been
607
00:29:00,778 --> 00:29:01,557
done in the darkroom.
608
00:29:01,557 --> 00:29:03,699
It looks very similar to
the kinds of distortions,
609
00:29:03,699 --> 00:29:07,864
collages, manipulations
that people have done
610
00:29:07,864 --> 00:29:10,736
in the darkroom because it's fun to do.
611
00:29:11,467 --> 00:29:13,139
- [William] But there's
no darkroom at Scole.
612
00:29:15,011 --> 00:29:17,804
Was this photograph created
by the spirit of a woman?
613
00:29:19,275 --> 00:29:21,557
Peter believes the answer
to the mystery lies
614
00:29:21,557 --> 00:29:23,389
in the type of film they used.
615
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,002
- With Polaroid you have
the direct development
616
00:29:26,002 --> 00:29:27,573
so there's no darkroom involved.
617
00:29:28,124 --> 00:29:29,986
When you process it, you actually put it
618
00:29:29,986 --> 00:29:34,009
into a container that is
full of a gelatinous chemical
619
00:29:34,009 --> 00:29:36,992
that gets spread onto the film evenly
620
00:29:36,992 --> 00:29:41,837
and that is the chemical
that develops the film,
621
00:29:41,837 --> 00:29:44,159
contains the dyes that causes the color
622
00:29:44,159 --> 00:29:47,282
and so on, and so you have
this jelly like substance
623
00:29:47,282 --> 00:29:49,443
that's being spread over
the film to develop it.
624
00:29:49,443 --> 00:29:51,145
You're cranking that through by hand
625
00:29:51,145 --> 00:29:52,676
or sometimes by motor.
626
00:29:54,028 --> 00:29:55,469
And depending on how you crank it
627
00:29:55,469 --> 00:29:59,373
you can get different kinds
of distortions and effects
628
00:29:59,373 --> 00:30:01,615
simply for chemical reasons and that,
629
00:30:01,615 --> 00:30:04,849
in my mind, is what happened
in these photographs.
630
00:30:05,299 --> 00:30:06,981
All you're seeing is the chemicals the way
631
00:30:06,981 --> 00:30:10,234
that they've affected the
film as it's gone through.
632
00:30:11,265 --> 00:30:13,247
What is harder to explain
are the actual faces
633
00:30:13,247 --> 00:30:15,189
in the images, they're not light effects,
634
00:30:15,189 --> 00:30:17,151
they're not chemical
effects, they actually
635
00:30:17,151 --> 00:30:19,864
are images of faces.
636
00:30:21,295 --> 00:30:23,657
- [William] So how is this
haunting image created?
637
00:30:25,019 --> 00:30:26,961
- My explanation for that would be
638
00:30:26,961 --> 00:30:28,983
that the film has been tampered with
639
00:30:28,983 --> 00:30:31,465
and the film has been
put through the camera
640
00:30:31,465 --> 00:30:34,288
and these faces have been exposed into it
641
00:30:34,288 --> 00:30:36,881
prior to the supposed experiment.
642
00:30:37,691 --> 00:30:39,233
Then when it's processed these show up
643
00:30:39,233 --> 00:30:41,195
but they show up in this distorted fashion
644
00:30:41,195 --> 00:30:44,368
because of the chemical
processing distortion.
645
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,853
And that actually is quite easy.
646
00:30:49,143 --> 00:30:50,814
You can take a roll of film.
647
00:30:51,325 --> 00:30:52,756
I can take this sort of
648
00:30:53,767 --> 00:30:54,768
brand new roll of film,
649
00:30:54,768 --> 00:30:56,090
no one's ever done anything with it,
650
00:30:56,090 --> 00:30:57,641
I can take it,
651
00:30:59,733 --> 00:31:01,555
I can put this film in the camera,
652
00:31:01,555 --> 00:31:03,197
I can shoot the roll of film,
653
00:31:03,197 --> 00:31:04,889
I can wind it back
654
00:31:05,199 --> 00:31:06,380
and as I wind it back
655
00:31:06,380 --> 00:31:09,402
I can leave the leader sticking out
656
00:31:09,402 --> 00:31:11,764
like this and no one knows
657
00:31:11,764 --> 00:31:13,476
whether this film is exposed or not.
658
00:31:14,787 --> 00:31:16,940
- [William] Peter believes
he has solved the mystery.
659
00:31:17,730 --> 00:31:21,544
But what if the Scole researchers
were telling the truth?
660
00:31:22,315 --> 00:31:23,977
- I don't think while
the film was in the box
661
00:31:23,977 --> 00:31:25,939
that any of the effects that we're seeing
662
00:31:25,939 --> 00:31:27,520
could have been created
663
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,264
unless one believes in some sort
664
00:31:31,264 --> 00:31:33,036
of supernatural explanation.
665
00:31:34,147 --> 00:31:36,139
- [William] Is a woman
from the spirit world?
666
00:31:37,450 --> 00:31:40,373
Did Robin Foy and his
research team find proof
667
00:31:40,373 --> 00:31:43,006
of life after death at Scole?
668
00:31:44,017 --> 00:31:46,049
Or was it an ingenious hoax?
669
00:31:46,799 --> 00:31:47,890
(people scream)
670
00:31:49,882 --> 00:31:54,857
Whatever the truth is,
this is Weird or Withhat?
671
00:32:03,156 --> 00:32:05,138
In Haiti a man dies after a sudden
672
00:32:05,138 --> 00:32:06,449
and mysterious illness.
673
00:32:08,541 --> 00:32:11,574
18 years later, he returns from the grave.
674
00:32:12,725 --> 00:32:15,098
Could this prove that zombies exist?
675
00:32:20,213 --> 00:32:23,058
When it comes to the
mysteries of the afterlife
676
00:32:23,058 --> 00:32:27,612
perhaps there's nothing
weirder than zombies.
677
00:32:29,384 --> 00:32:30,886
The dictionary describes
a zombie like this,
678
00:32:30,886 --> 00:32:33,929
the body of a dead person
given the semblance of life,
679
00:32:33,929 --> 00:32:37,673
but made mute and willess
by a supernatural force
680
00:32:37,673 --> 00:32:39,645
usually for some evil purpose.
681
00:32:40,456 --> 00:32:41,988
Sounds like my bank manager.
682
00:32:42,258 --> 00:32:44,410
But, could it be true?
683
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,804
Could mindless, shuffling
cannibals actually exist
684
00:32:50,256 --> 00:32:51,238
outside of Hollywood?
685
00:32:53,810 --> 00:32:56,333
The tiny nation of Haiti
is home to many mysteries,
686
00:32:57,444 --> 00:33:00,389
but none weirder than
the tale of a man named
687
00:33:00,389 --> 00:33:02,061
Clairvius Narcisse.
688
00:33:04,133 --> 00:33:06,025
Wade Davis is an explorer and author.
689
00:33:07,956 --> 00:33:09,398
He investigated the case which began
690
00:33:09,398 --> 00:33:13,512
in 1962 when Narcisse
suddenly became violently ill.
691
00:33:14,803 --> 00:33:17,706
- I mean they're kind of a
constellation of symptoms
692
00:33:17,706 --> 00:33:21,530
that reported were so strange
that you initially thought
693
00:33:21,530 --> 00:33:24,223
this had to be coming from
the realm of science fiction.
694
00:33:25,014 --> 00:33:26,395
- [William] Although
doctors worked feverishly,
695
00:33:26,395 --> 00:33:30,249
it's too late to save
the stricken Narcisse.
696
00:33:32,901 --> 00:33:34,763
- The death was witnessed
by both the physicians
697
00:33:34,763 --> 00:33:37,026
and nurses and his own family members,
698
00:33:37,026 --> 00:33:40,069
and his sister had actually
affixed her thumb print
699
00:33:40,069 --> 00:33:43,452
to the death certificate verifying that
700
00:33:43,452 --> 00:33:45,204
this was her brother,
her brother had died.
701
00:33:46,555 --> 00:33:48,317
- [William] Devastated, family members
702
00:33:48,317 --> 00:33:51,560
say their final goodbyes and Clairvius
703
00:33:52,691 --> 00:33:54,394
is finally laid to rest.
704
00:33:55,045 --> 00:33:57,547
- You could go to his
grave site where the slab
705
00:33:57,547 --> 00:34:00,160
of cement had been placed upon his grave
706
00:34:00,770 --> 00:34:02,462
shortly after his demise.
707
00:34:04,254 --> 00:34:05,355
- [William] It should have been the last
708
00:34:05,355 --> 00:34:07,187
anyone heard of Clairvius Narcisse,
709
00:34:08,718 --> 00:34:11,721
but 18 years later something incredible
710
00:34:11,721 --> 00:34:14,764
will happen that ensures no one
711
00:34:14,764 --> 00:34:16,477
forgets his name.
712
00:34:18,789 --> 00:34:22,273
In 1980, Clairvius' sister
is going about daily chores
713
00:34:22,273 --> 00:34:23,884
in her family village.
714
00:34:25,436 --> 00:34:28,109
Suddenly she sees something
beyond comprehension.
715
00:34:29,340 --> 00:34:32,203
Standing before her is
her deceased brother,
716
00:34:33,654 --> 00:34:37,419
Clairvius Narcisse has
risen from the dead.
717
00:34:38,410 --> 00:34:39,451
- He claimed that he was buried,
718
00:34:39,451 --> 00:34:41,953
he claimed that he was
magically resuscitated
719
00:34:41,953 --> 00:34:44,776
by a sorcerer and then
led off to the north
720
00:34:44,776 --> 00:34:46,098
of the country where he had been working
721
00:34:46,098 --> 00:34:48,890
as a sort of zombie slave for 18 years.
722
00:34:49,121 --> 00:34:52,184
Now, clearly there's no incentive,
723
00:34:52,184 --> 00:34:54,486
economic incentive to create an indentured
724
00:34:54,486 --> 00:34:57,909
force of labor in a country where costs
725
00:34:57,909 --> 00:34:59,381
of labor are trivial.
726
00:35:00,332 --> 00:35:05,086
I think the idea of slavery
ties into a deeper concept
727
00:35:05,437 --> 00:35:07,058
which is that the essence of a zombie
728
00:35:07,058 --> 00:35:08,890
is someone who has lost their soul.
729
00:35:10,081 --> 00:35:13,044
But in addition to
being cast in perpetuity
730
00:35:13,044 --> 00:35:16,398
into this state of kind of limbo,
731
00:35:17,189 --> 00:35:18,930
you're also said to be made a slave
732
00:35:18,930 --> 00:35:21,893
and of course given the colonial history,
733
00:35:21,893 --> 00:35:25,777
that combines to create a kind of
734
00:35:25,777 --> 00:35:28,840
phenomenon that's almost worse than death
735
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,582
because you lose your personal willpower
736
00:35:30,582 --> 00:35:32,524
and your physical freedom,
737
00:35:32,524 --> 00:35:36,768
and together, that
combines to make the plight
738
00:35:36,768 --> 00:35:40,662
of a zombie the worst possible
fate of the individual.
739
00:35:40,952 --> 00:35:43,675
Which is precisely why
in Haiti the fear is not
740
00:35:43,675 --> 00:35:47,379
of zombies, as the movies
imply, the bad movies,
741
00:35:47,379 --> 00:35:48,870
but of becoming a zombie.
742
00:35:50,922 --> 00:35:53,605
Did Clairvius Narcisse
return from the dead
743
00:35:55,167 --> 00:35:55,658
a zombie?
744
00:35:56,449 --> 00:35:59,572
- There's no question that this individual
745
00:35:59,572 --> 00:36:01,053
had clearly been pronounced dead
746
00:36:01,053 --> 00:36:03,396
by the doctors and then
the question became
747
00:36:03,396 --> 00:36:06,088
why, how, what happened to him?
748
00:36:06,899 --> 00:36:08,341
- [William] This incredible story
749
00:36:08,341 --> 00:36:10,823
attracts the attention
of a team of scientists
750
00:36:10,823 --> 00:36:14,737
who are keen to examine the
case and uncover the truth.
751
00:36:15,167 --> 00:36:17,029
- They investigated all
these lines of evidence,
752
00:36:17,029 --> 00:36:19,892
analysis of the fingerprints
by forensic experts,
753
00:36:19,892 --> 00:36:21,634
the testimony of the family members
754
00:36:21,634 --> 00:36:22,745
and the doctors.
755
00:36:23,516 --> 00:36:25,137
- [William] After months of searching
756
00:36:25,137 --> 00:36:28,311
the investigators come to
a remarkable conclusion.
757
00:36:29,141 --> 00:36:32,144
- Really led to very reputable scientists
758
00:36:32,144 --> 00:36:33,969
who go public with saying they had found
759
00:36:33,969 --> 00:36:36,181
the first provable instance of a zombie.
760
00:36:36,832 --> 00:36:38,324
- [William] What did the scientists find?
761
00:36:40,776 --> 00:36:42,988
Did Clairvius Narcisse rise from the dead?
762
00:36:43,819 --> 00:36:46,512
Do zombies exist?
763
00:36:48,163 --> 00:36:50,436
Steven Schlozman is a
Harvard psychiatrist.
764
00:36:51,687 --> 00:36:53,449
Incredibly, he believes
the answer could be
765
00:36:54,870 --> 00:36:55,642
yes.
766
00:36:57,594 --> 00:36:59,796
- When I started thinking
about how I would explain
767
00:36:59,796 --> 00:37:02,239
zombies medically it was kind of a lark
768
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,391
and then it ended up
getting a little creepy.
769
00:37:05,001 --> 00:37:07,804
The typical zombie in my view is slow
770
00:37:07,804 --> 00:37:11,107
shambling, can't figure even the simplest
771
00:37:11,107 --> 00:37:14,741
of dilemmas out, wants to eat human flesh.
772
00:37:15,732 --> 00:37:18,825
There is ways you could
medically explain the behavior.
773
00:37:21,598 --> 00:37:23,760
- [William] Remarkably, Schlozman believes
774
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,702
just a few changes in the human brain
775
00:37:25,702 --> 00:37:28,815
could turn one of us into one of them.
776
00:37:30,006 --> 00:37:32,198
It starts with the cerebellum.
777
00:37:33,330 --> 00:37:35,312
- This is a sheep brain,
but imagine this is
778
00:37:35,312 --> 00:37:36,813
a human brain, which looks
an awful lot like this,
779
00:37:36,813 --> 00:37:37,964
just bigger.
780
00:37:38,275 --> 00:37:39,696
The function of the cerebellum is
781
00:37:39,696 --> 00:37:41,007
to help us maintain balance.
782
00:37:41,257 --> 00:37:43,620
In zombies we've got to
think that there's something
783
00:37:43,620 --> 00:37:45,582
not right with their
cerebellum because zombies
784
00:37:45,582 --> 00:37:47,674
are really not balanced well.
785
00:37:47,705 --> 00:37:50,368
They hold their hands out so
they can maintain balance.
786
00:37:50,368 --> 00:37:52,390
They've got that wide-based gait,
787
00:37:52,390 --> 00:37:54,312
they've got truncal ataxia, which is when
788
00:37:54,312 --> 00:37:56,253
the trunk of the body moves back and forth
789
00:37:56,253 --> 00:37:59,487
and up and down, that's
all cerebellar disease.
790
00:38:00,237 --> 00:38:02,860
And it's easy to sort of
think that whatever causes
791
00:38:02,860 --> 00:38:06,273
the zombie plague, must take
a wack at the cerebellum.
792
00:38:07,866 --> 00:38:09,067
There are number of diseases
793
00:38:09,067 --> 00:38:10,209
that could affect the cerebellum.
794
00:38:10,209 --> 00:38:14,053
In those cases you have
exactly the shambling gait
795
00:38:14,053 --> 00:38:16,265
that you see in the zombie movies.
796
00:38:17,276 --> 00:38:19,008
- [William] The shuffling is one thing,
797
00:38:20,099 --> 00:38:22,972
but what explains a
zombie's mindless violence?
798
00:38:24,864 --> 00:38:27,086
- The amygdala is the most primitive part
799
00:38:27,086 --> 00:38:29,088
of the brain, it's the region of the brain
800
00:38:29,088 --> 00:38:31,881
that has very base emotions.
801
00:38:33,192 --> 00:38:34,994
- [William] Our amygdala is the source
802
00:38:34,994 --> 00:38:36,706
of all anger and rage,
803
00:38:37,797 --> 00:38:40,109
but it is kept in check
by our frontal lobes,
804
00:38:40,500 --> 00:38:42,291
the most advanced part of our brain.
805
00:38:43,443 --> 00:38:44,564
- So we might have an impulse
806
00:38:44,564 --> 00:38:46,045
when somebody cuts us off in the road,
807
00:38:46,045 --> 00:38:47,347
to yell at them, to tailgate them,
808
00:38:47,347 --> 00:38:48,848
to do something not nice.
809
00:38:48,848 --> 00:38:52,081
The frontal lobe jumps in and
stops you from doing that.
810
00:38:52,972 --> 00:38:55,254
When we watch zombie movies we can guess
811
00:38:55,254 --> 00:38:57,557
that zombie frontal lobes
are pretty much gone,
812
00:38:57,557 --> 00:38:59,409
they can't hold back their impulses.
813
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,382
- [William] Could a unique
combination of brain injuries
814
00:39:02,382 --> 00:39:04,494
somehow create a zombie?
815
00:39:05,545 --> 00:39:07,397
There's just one problem.
816
00:39:08,307 --> 00:39:10,550
- The zombie, by definition, has to die
817
00:39:10,550 --> 00:39:11,701
and be reanimated.
818
00:39:12,051 --> 00:39:13,332
There is no medical basis for something
819
00:39:13,332 --> 00:39:15,725
coming back from the dead so far.
820
00:39:16,335 --> 00:39:17,537
- [William] But how does Schlozman explain
821
00:39:17,537 --> 00:39:20,660
that Clairvius Narcisse
was certified dead,
822
00:39:20,660 --> 00:39:23,993
buried, then returned from the grave?
823
00:39:25,104 --> 00:39:26,305
- Maybe he's not telling the truth,
824
00:39:26,305 --> 00:39:28,728
maybe he's undergone some
kind of neurologic insult
825
00:39:28,728 --> 00:39:30,169
that prevents him from remembering
826
00:39:30,169 --> 00:39:31,871
what's just happened, but if we're talking
827
00:39:31,871 --> 00:39:33,192
about really rising from the dead,
828
00:39:33,192 --> 00:39:34,484
that doesn't happen.
829
00:39:38,257 --> 00:39:40,800
- [William] A haitian man dies
from a mysterious illness,
830
00:39:42,301 --> 00:39:44,534
then returns from the
grave 18 years later.
831
00:39:45,264 --> 00:39:47,777
Is he proof that zombies exist?
832
00:39:49,749 --> 00:39:51,370
Wade Davis has investigated the case
833
00:39:51,370 --> 00:39:53,002
and has an incredible theory.
834
00:39:54,594 --> 00:39:57,627
He thinks Clairvius
Narcisse didn't die at all.
835
00:39:59,138 --> 00:40:01,441
That something made him
just seem to be dead,
836
00:40:01,441 --> 00:40:05,154
but who or what could
have fooled the doctors?
837
00:40:05,985 --> 00:40:07,977
- There are lots of drugs that can kill,
838
00:40:08,508 --> 00:40:10,371
but to find a drug that
brings you to the doorway
839
00:40:10,371 --> 00:40:13,314
of death, and then brings
you back into the realm
840
00:40:13,314 --> 00:40:15,527
of the living would be remarkable indeed.
841
00:40:16,317 --> 00:40:18,610
- [William] In 1982,
Davis made a breakthrough.
842
00:40:19,741 --> 00:40:21,643
He discovered that Haitian voodoo priests
843
00:40:21,643 --> 00:40:24,145
were rumored to be using a special poison
844
00:40:24,145 --> 00:40:26,438
to turn people into zombies.
845
00:40:27,489 --> 00:40:29,501
Was this the drug he was looking for?
846
00:40:30,852 --> 00:40:33,424
He decided to visit Haiti
and see for himself.
847
00:40:34,896 --> 00:40:37,939
- Through a series of
negotiations I was able to get
848
00:40:37,939 --> 00:40:40,892
a local priest to make this poison for me.
849
00:40:41,402 --> 00:40:43,324
I collected all the raw ingredients,
850
00:40:43,324 --> 00:40:46,268
which ranged from, you know, dried toads
851
00:40:46,268 --> 00:40:49,472
to dried fish, dried snakes, plants,
852
00:40:49,472 --> 00:40:53,776
human remains, I collected
all the raw ingredients
853
00:40:53,776 --> 00:40:56,238
so I could identify them taxonomically
854
00:40:56,238 --> 00:40:59,421
all the different stages
of the elaboration,
855
00:40:59,421 --> 00:41:01,323
because fundamentally the ingredients
856
00:41:01,323 --> 00:41:06,028
are roasted on a grill,
pounded in the mortar
857
00:41:06,028 --> 00:41:08,242
and pestle, shifted
858
00:41:09,033 --> 00:41:10,444
to create this sort of powder,
859
00:41:11,856 --> 00:41:14,579
and I brought them all
back through US Customs
860
00:41:14,579 --> 00:41:16,220
and it was kind of amusing because I
861
00:41:17,942 --> 00:41:21,797
came through the first
day on Easter Sunday 1982,
862
00:41:22,628 --> 00:41:25,310
Kennedy Airport and I
had no permits whatsoever
863
00:41:25,310 --> 00:41:29,484
and I had this suitcase
made of surplus 7-Up cans
864
00:41:29,835 --> 00:41:31,296
that had been printed in Saudi Arabia
865
00:41:31,296 --> 00:41:32,858
because you could see the arabic script
866
00:41:32,858 --> 00:41:35,831
and it was filled to the gunnels
with all these ingredients,
867
00:41:36,101 --> 00:41:37,883
including human remains, a human skull,
868
00:41:37,883 --> 00:41:40,986
I had a live bufo marinus
toad, the biggest toad,
869
00:41:40,986 --> 00:41:44,069
you know, this big, in my backpack
870
00:41:44,069 --> 00:41:46,942
and no permits whatsoever.
871
00:41:47,352 --> 00:41:50,956
And I open this up and the Customs guy
872
00:41:50,956 --> 00:41:53,819
in New York just slammed it shut
873
00:41:53,819 --> 00:41:58,824
and he said, and I quote, "Look,
it's Easter (bleep) Sunday,
874
00:41:59,645 --> 00:42:02,768
"I don't know who the (bleep)
you are, I didn't even
875
00:42:02,768 --> 00:42:05,110
"want to have to work
today, just get the (bleep)
876
00:42:05,110 --> 00:42:06,361
"out of here."
877
00:42:08,774 --> 00:42:10,536
- [William] Back in the
US Davis takes the poison
878
00:42:10,536 --> 00:42:11,787
to be tested in a lab.
879
00:42:13,358 --> 00:42:15,651
He finds something extraordinary.
880
00:42:17,382 --> 00:42:20,996
It contains a chemical
more deadly than cyanide.
881
00:42:22,327 --> 00:42:26,593
Tetrodotoxin acts by
physically blocking nerves
882
00:42:26,593 --> 00:42:28,835
but it brings on a state of apparent death
883
00:42:28,835 --> 00:42:31,457
so profound that it has, many times,
884
00:42:31,457 --> 00:42:32,548
fooled physicians.
885
00:42:33,359 --> 00:42:35,381
- [William] Had the
Haitian priests discovered
886
00:42:35,381 --> 00:42:37,413
a drug that could replicate death?
887
00:42:38,625 --> 00:42:40,797
If so, where did they get it?
888
00:42:42,208 --> 00:42:44,592
- In Haiti there's this
sort of famous pufferfish
889
00:42:44,592 --> 00:42:46,664
which inflates like a big porcupine.
890
00:42:48,015 --> 00:42:50,017
Without doubt, the Haitian sorcerers
891
00:42:50,017 --> 00:42:52,119
had identified a natural product
892
00:42:52,119 --> 00:42:55,222
that contained a toxin that could make
893
00:42:55,222 --> 00:42:56,304
someone appear to be dead.
894
00:42:56,304 --> 00:42:59,127
- [William] Could this
powerful drug produce
895
00:42:59,127 --> 00:43:01,840
the symptoms Narcisse experienced?
896
00:43:02,430 --> 00:43:05,033
- He said he was paralyzed, he could hear
897
00:43:05,033 --> 00:43:07,756
himself pronounced dead, he could sense
898
00:43:07,756 --> 00:43:09,878
the sheet pulled over his eyes,
899
00:43:09,878 --> 00:43:11,840
he heard his sister begin to wail,
900
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,151
but he could not respond.
901
00:43:14,703 --> 00:43:16,755
- [William] Was an innocent
man turned into a zombie?
902
00:43:20,448 --> 00:43:22,621
The evidence seems undeniable,
903
00:43:23,672 --> 00:43:25,043
except for one thing.
904
00:43:26,134 --> 00:43:29,127
- No one knows if Narcisse
was administered the poison.
905
00:43:29,858 --> 00:43:31,720
What we do know is that
he was pronounced dead
906
00:43:33,702 --> 00:43:35,084
when he turned back into
the realm of the living,
907
00:43:35,084 --> 00:43:38,007
so presumably if any of this accurate,
908
00:43:38,007 --> 00:43:40,059
somehow he received the poison.
909
00:43:40,369 --> 00:43:42,672
According to what he said,
the poison was rubbed
910
00:43:42,672 --> 00:43:44,674
into the skin, and this important
911
00:43:44,674 --> 00:43:48,437
because the folkloric idea that you read
912
00:43:48,437 --> 00:43:50,528
in the literature is
that the poison is placed
913
00:43:50,528 --> 00:43:53,231
on a cross in the ground,
the victim walks over
914
00:43:53,231 --> 00:43:55,383
and suddenly all things unravel.
915
00:43:56,014 --> 00:43:57,977
Well that's a magical idea, no doubt,
916
00:43:57,977 --> 00:44:00,239
because obviously, physiologically
917
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:01,440
no poison is going to go through
918
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:02,912
the callous feet of a peasant.
919
00:44:03,262 --> 00:44:05,184
But again, this is where
you have to separate out
920
00:44:05,184 --> 00:44:07,406
what might be called the view from within
921
00:44:07,406 --> 00:44:09,058
from the view from without.
922
00:44:10,269 --> 00:44:13,272
According to Narcisse,
he had the poison rubbed
923
00:44:13,272 --> 00:44:15,975
into his skin and this would be important
924
00:44:15,975 --> 00:44:18,698
because the effective way for this powder
925
00:44:18,698 --> 00:44:21,711
to be administered would be through blood.
926
00:44:25,484 --> 00:44:28,057
- All right, let's think
about this for a second.
927
00:44:29,108 --> 00:44:33,192
We know that a certain
set of brain alterations,
928
00:44:33,192 --> 00:44:36,596
diseases or injuries could cause
929
00:44:36,596 --> 00:44:39,120
the zombie-like symptoms
you see in the movies,
930
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:40,855
that a mysterious poison
931
00:44:44,248 --> 00:44:45,550
has the power to mimic death,
932
00:44:45,550 --> 00:44:50,095
but is there any real
proof that we can return
933
00:44:50,095 --> 00:44:51,127
from the dead?
934
00:44:52,258 --> 00:44:54,280
Well let me tell ya
something, the living dead
935
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:59,285
are living among us,
and they are in Detroit.
936
00:45:05,292 --> 00:45:06,734
At a warehouse in Detroit
937
00:45:06,734 --> 00:45:08,205
something remarkable is happening.
938
00:45:10,177 --> 00:45:15,182
Inside these containers
103 people are waiting
939
00:45:15,422 --> 00:45:17,274
to return from the dead.
940
00:45:19,406 --> 00:45:20,738
This is a cryonic center.
941
00:45:22,429 --> 00:45:24,191
The people entombed here have made
942
00:45:24,191 --> 00:45:25,322
an incredible choice.
943
00:45:28,515 --> 00:45:31,398
To have their bodies frozen after death
944
00:45:31,398 --> 00:45:33,620
with the hope that science will one day
945
00:45:33,620 --> 00:45:35,732
bring them back to life.
946
00:45:37,344 --> 00:45:40,799
Ben Best is the president
of the Cryonics Institute.
947
00:45:41,689 --> 00:45:44,292
He believes not only can we survive death,
948
00:45:45,904 --> 00:45:48,646
but that the people here
haven't actually died.
949
00:45:50,298 --> 00:45:52,120
- We do call them
patients because we don't
950
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,632
regard them as being dead
in an ultimate sense.
951
00:45:55,123 --> 00:45:58,086
I think in practice we
regard it as a hospital
952
00:45:58,086 --> 00:45:59,869
because I think that's what we're doing.
953
00:45:59,869 --> 00:46:02,842
We're holding this metabolically
challenged patients.
954
00:46:03,993 --> 00:46:06,065
- [William] But can cryogenics work?
955
00:46:08,357 --> 00:46:10,269
It's a remarkable and
controversial process.
956
00:46:12,581 --> 00:46:14,103
- Behind me are our cryostats.
957
00:46:14,103 --> 00:46:16,986
They hold liquid nitrogen which is
958
00:46:16,986 --> 00:46:20,259
at minus 196 degrees Celsius.
959
00:46:21,711 --> 00:46:24,785
Each of these cylindrical
units holds six patients.
960
00:46:25,595 --> 00:46:27,717
- [William] Best believes
cryogenics has changed
961
00:46:27,717 --> 00:46:29,409
our definition of death.
962
00:46:31,121 --> 00:46:34,304
Only a few decades ago,
if your heart stopped
963
00:46:34,304 --> 00:46:35,175
that was it.
964
00:46:36,486 --> 00:46:39,179
- But it's just not the
way we see things anymore.
965
00:46:40,490 --> 00:46:42,923
- [William] How do you keep
somebody who is dead alive?
966
00:46:46,116 --> 00:46:49,810
It begins by pumping oxygen
rich blood throughout the body.
967
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,123
This keeps cells alive
and avoids damage caused
968
00:46:53,123 --> 00:46:57,097
by rigamortis, then the
body must be cooled.
969
00:46:59,189 --> 00:47:02,422
- Well we don't just drop the
patient into liquid nitrogen.
970
00:47:04,734 --> 00:47:07,287
That kind of rapid cooling
would be very damaging.
971
00:47:08,118 --> 00:47:10,230
So we try to cool in a controlled manner.
972
00:47:11,121 --> 00:47:13,203
If you cool too quickly then you get,
973
00:47:13,203 --> 00:47:15,515
you get too much cracking.
974
00:47:16,907 --> 00:47:19,549
We can't prevent cracking entirely,
975
00:47:19,549 --> 00:47:23,486
but certainly if you just
drop the patient directly
976
00:47:23,486 --> 00:47:25,688
into the liquid nitrogen there'd be a lot
977
00:47:25,688 --> 00:47:27,080
of cracking and shattering.
978
00:47:27,510 --> 00:47:29,232
What we want to do is we want to cool
979
00:47:29,232 --> 00:47:33,276
as quickly as possible
while the cryoprotectant,
980
00:47:33,276 --> 00:47:37,050
the medical grade antifreeze
is still in a liquidy state.
981
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,143
And then when it
solidifies, we want to cool
982
00:47:40,143 --> 00:47:44,227
very slowly because while
it's in liquid state
983
00:47:44,227 --> 00:47:46,369
the idea, you want it,
the colder the better,
984
00:47:46,369 --> 00:47:50,533
but when it becomes a solid
if you cool too quickly
985
00:47:50,533 --> 00:47:52,165
you create thermal stress.
986
00:47:54,197 --> 00:47:56,359
- [William] The body
temperature is slowly lowered,
987
00:47:56,359 --> 00:47:57,690
first by an ice bath,
988
00:47:59,562 --> 00:48:02,005
and then in a cooling
chamber where it will reach
989
00:48:02,005 --> 00:48:04,177
minus 196 degrees.
990
00:48:04,948 --> 00:48:07,690
Best believes this will
preserve these bodies
991
00:48:07,690 --> 00:48:11,564
for hundreds or perhaps
thousands of years.
992
00:48:13,897 --> 00:48:15,148
But why?
993
00:48:16,079 --> 00:48:17,440
- It seems to me if you're preserving
994
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,423
all the material there,
some future technology
995
00:48:20,423 --> 00:48:23,126
is going to be able to
figure out a way to get
996
00:48:23,126 --> 00:48:26,039
that all fixed and going again.
997
00:48:28,231 --> 00:48:30,473
It's reasonable to think that nanomachines
998
00:48:30,473 --> 00:48:33,766
can restore a person to
their original condition.
999
00:48:34,717 --> 00:48:36,239
- [William] Nanomachines already exist.
1000
00:48:37,530 --> 00:48:39,892
Tiny machines smaller than a single cell.
1001
00:48:40,603 --> 00:48:42,145
Scientists believe they
could soon flow through
1002
00:48:42,145 --> 00:48:44,647
our blood stream targeting viruses,
1003
00:48:44,647 --> 00:48:47,360
repairing organs and destroying disease.
1004
00:48:49,252 --> 00:48:52,005
Can cryogenics give us life after death?
1005
00:48:52,835 --> 00:48:55,008
Could it even conquer death itself?
1006
00:48:56,019 --> 00:48:59,772
Best believes it is our greatest
hope for eternal living.
1007
00:49:00,383 --> 00:49:02,905
- It doesn't seem so
much more unreasonable
1008
00:49:02,905 --> 00:49:04,629
than to speculate that people will someday
1009
00:49:04,629 --> 00:49:05,981
live on Mars.
1010
00:49:09,014 --> 00:49:12,317
- [William] Can we die and
wake up a thousand years
1011
00:49:12,317 --> 00:49:14,449
later and resume our lives?
1012
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,033
And if we can, would we really want to?
1013
00:49:19,004 --> 00:49:21,286
Or do we return as zombies,
1014
00:49:21,286 --> 00:49:24,359
doomed to a mindless existence?
1015
00:49:25,410 --> 00:49:29,204
Is life after death really life at all?
1016
00:49:31,096 --> 00:49:33,371
Weird or What?
1017
00:49:45,254 --> 00:49:46,185
So there we have it.
1018
00:49:47,356 --> 00:49:49,788
Stories of life after death
from all over the world.
1019
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,662
In Connecticut a man is
overcome with emotion
1020
00:49:53,662 --> 00:49:55,174
at a Civil War battlefield.
1021
00:49:56,785 --> 00:49:59,598
Is he the reincarnation of a dead general?
1022
00:50:02,271 --> 00:50:04,413
In England, scientists
conduct a remarkable
1023
00:50:04,413 --> 00:50:06,065
paranormal experiment.
1024
00:50:07,776 --> 00:50:10,709
Did they find the first
proof of the afterlife?
1025
00:50:12,801 --> 00:50:15,684
And in Haiti, a man returns from the grave
1026
00:50:15,684 --> 00:50:17,836
18 years after his death.
1027
00:50:19,248 --> 00:50:21,600
Are the living dead walking amongst us?
1028
00:50:22,271 --> 00:50:24,443
Do zombies exist?
1029
00:50:25,654 --> 00:50:28,967
Are these stories evidence
of life after death?
1030
00:50:29,758 --> 00:50:32,631
Can we dismiss those
who claim they are true?
1031
00:50:33,982 --> 00:50:35,074
You decide.
1032
00:50:35,384 --> 00:50:37,206
Join me again next time for more stories
1033
00:50:37,206 --> 00:50:40,466
that will undoubtedly be Weird or
1034
00:50:41,257 --> 00:50:42,248
What?
1035
00:50:49,165 --> 00:50:53,199
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