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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,711 --> 00:00:10,483 - You know, I've been around for awhile, 2 00:00:10,853 --> 00:00:12,305 met some interesting people, 3 00:00:13,056 --> 00:00:14,547 done some crazy things. 4 00:00:15,270 --> 00:00:17,592 So you just might think that there's not much 5 00:00:17,592 --> 00:00:19,744 that can take me by surprise. 6 00:00:21,516 --> 00:00:22,747 You'd be wrong. 7 00:00:28,363 --> 00:00:30,115 The world is full of stories, 8 00:00:30,985 --> 00:00:32,847 science, and things that amaze 9 00:00:32,847 --> 00:00:34,439 and confound me. 10 00:00:34,669 --> 00:00:35,970 Every single day, 11 00:00:35,970 --> 00:00:37,652 incredible mysteries that keep me awake at night, 12 00:00:37,652 --> 00:00:38,943 some I can answer, 13 00:00:40,175 --> 00:00:42,927 others just defy logic. 14 00:00:44,859 --> 00:00:47,092 Is there life after death? 15 00:00:48,623 --> 00:00:49,404 In Connecticut, 16 00:00:49,404 --> 00:00:51,025 a man visits a Civil War battlefield 17 00:00:52,617 --> 00:00:54,751 where he is suddenly overcome with emotion. 18 00:00:55,662 --> 00:00:57,104 - To this day, I don't understand 19 00:00:57,104 --> 00:00:58,335 what exactly happened. 20 00:00:59,266 --> 00:01:01,548 - [William] Is he the reincarnation 21 00:01:01,548 --> 00:01:02,779 of a dead general? 22 00:01:04,531 --> 00:01:08,034 In Haiti, 18 years after his death, 23 00:01:09,376 --> 00:01:10,907 a man returns from the grave. 24 00:01:11,738 --> 00:01:14,241 - This individual had clearly been pronounced dead 25 00:01:14,241 --> 00:01:15,252 by the doctors. 26 00:01:16,183 --> 00:01:18,375 - [William] Do zombies really exist? 27 00:01:20,487 --> 00:01:21,708 And in a remarkable experiment, 28 00:01:22,989 --> 00:01:24,991 scientists in England conduct a series 29 00:01:24,991 --> 00:01:27,003 of groundbreaking seances. 30 00:01:28,775 --> 00:01:30,717 Is it our first genuine proof 31 00:01:30,717 --> 00:01:32,249 of the afterlife? 32 00:01:35,081 --> 00:01:36,953 It's a weird world. 33 00:01:37,944 --> 00:01:39,376 And I love it. 34 00:01:41,488 --> 00:01:45,542 (dramatic music) 35 00:01:57,664 --> 00:01:58,937 Death. 36 00:01:58,937 --> 00:02:00,349 Not exactly pretty. 37 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:02,281 Especially when you consider 38 00:02:02,281 --> 00:02:03,852 that one day, all of us 39 00:02:04,963 --> 00:02:07,055 could end up looking like this. 40 00:02:09,808 --> 00:02:11,770 But should we simply accept this as our fate 41 00:02:11,770 --> 00:02:13,662 or is there something else that awaits us? 42 00:02:16,315 --> 00:02:17,556 Since the dawn of time, 43 00:02:17,556 --> 00:02:19,218 humans have been obsessed with the idea 44 00:02:19,218 --> 00:02:22,070 that there's something more than 45 00:02:23,902 --> 00:02:24,973 this. 46 00:02:25,644 --> 00:02:26,855 Well... 47 00:02:27,926 --> 00:02:28,859 Is there? 48 00:02:28,859 --> 00:02:30,591 Do our lives go on 49 00:02:31,342 --> 00:02:32,275 even if we die? 50 00:02:32,275 --> 00:02:35,438 Can we return and communicate with our loved ones 51 00:02:35,438 --> 00:02:36,769 here on earth? 52 00:02:41,984 --> 00:02:44,577 Is there life after life? 53 00:02:45,508 --> 00:02:48,601 And perhaps the most important question of all, 54 00:02:49,452 --> 00:02:50,823 can we prove it? 55 00:02:54,197 --> 00:02:56,189 Well, just maybe we can. 56 00:02:57,380 --> 00:02:59,352 (spooky organ music) 57 00:03:00,983 --> 00:03:03,556 Jeffrey Keene is a retired firefighter. 58 00:03:04,947 --> 00:03:07,410 In 1990, he decided to visit the site 59 00:03:07,410 --> 00:03:09,522 of the famous Battle of Antietam, 60 00:03:10,313 --> 00:03:11,514 one of the bloodiest encounters 61 00:03:11,514 --> 00:03:12,665 of the Civil War. 62 00:03:14,817 --> 00:03:18,130 And a place where thousands died in just one day. 63 00:03:20,783 --> 00:03:22,305 - I was traveling down through Pennsylvania 64 00:03:22,305 --> 00:03:24,066 with my wife, antique hunting, 65 00:03:24,066 --> 00:03:25,628 and I asked my wife if it was okay 66 00:03:25,628 --> 00:03:27,009 to take a little side trip 67 00:03:27,009 --> 00:03:29,041 over to Antietam to see the battlefield. 68 00:03:30,513 --> 00:03:31,994 - [William] But what begins as a fun day out 69 00:03:33,596 --> 00:03:35,780 will soon turn into a nightmare. 70 00:03:37,071 --> 00:03:39,634 - My wife wasn't very much into history 71 00:03:39,634 --> 00:03:41,348 so she remained in the car, 72 00:03:41,348 --> 00:03:43,430 and I walked over to where the battle 73 00:03:43,430 --> 00:03:45,442 had taken place at the sunken road. 74 00:03:45,852 --> 00:03:46,913 I had gone about 50 feet 75 00:03:46,913 --> 00:03:48,785 when it became very hard to breathe. 76 00:03:49,115 --> 00:03:51,097 I started crying, I was very angry, 77 00:03:51,097 --> 00:03:52,409 I was very sad. 78 00:03:52,819 --> 00:03:55,081 If you take the saddest you've ever been, 79 00:03:55,081 --> 00:03:57,504 and magnify that by about a thousand times, 80 00:03:57,504 --> 00:03:58,995 that gets close. 81 00:04:00,066 --> 00:04:01,318 I was exhausted, 82 00:04:01,968 --> 00:04:04,202 I couldn't tell exactly what was going on, 83 00:04:04,202 --> 00:04:05,944 I thought I was maybe having a heart attack, 84 00:04:05,944 --> 00:04:07,376 but I didn't have any pain. 85 00:04:09,308 --> 00:04:10,289 - [William] Overcome by a wave 86 00:04:10,289 --> 00:04:11,510 of violent emotions, 87 00:04:11,510 --> 00:04:13,812 Jeffrey then has a powerful urge 88 00:04:15,253 --> 00:04:16,977 to visit the gift shop. 89 00:04:18,208 --> 00:04:19,660 - I felt compelled to go there. 90 00:04:20,110 --> 00:04:21,512 I threw a magazine on the counter, 91 00:04:21,512 --> 00:04:22,993 and I said, I want this, 92 00:04:22,993 --> 00:04:25,115 and it was a Civil War quarterly magazine 93 00:04:25,115 --> 00:04:26,387 on Antietam. 94 00:04:27,117 --> 00:04:28,559 To this day, I don't understand 95 00:04:28,559 --> 00:04:29,910 what exactly happened. 96 00:04:31,382 --> 00:04:33,023 - [William] For the next 18 months 97 00:04:33,023 --> 00:04:35,776 Jeffrey's life returns to normal. 98 00:04:36,987 --> 00:04:38,118 Until one night, 99 00:04:38,729 --> 00:04:40,681 when he attends a Halloween party. 100 00:04:41,412 --> 00:04:43,033 - It was a really nice party, 101 00:04:43,033 --> 00:04:44,675 they had spent a lot of money 102 00:04:44,675 --> 00:04:45,548 on the decorations, 103 00:04:45,548 --> 00:04:47,550 they had hired a palm reader, 104 00:04:47,550 --> 00:04:50,272 and I sat down in front of this woman, 105 00:04:50,272 --> 00:04:51,764 and she took my hands, 106 00:04:53,336 --> 00:04:54,657 and I told her the story of what happened 107 00:04:54,657 --> 00:04:55,748 in Antietam. 108 00:04:56,399 --> 00:04:57,980 - [William] As Jeff tells his story, 109 00:04:57,980 --> 00:05:00,613 the palm reader suddenly becomes uneasy. 110 00:05:02,184 --> 00:05:03,546 - She's sitting there shaking her head, 111 00:05:03,546 --> 00:05:05,358 and she dropped my hands a few times. 112 00:05:06,248 --> 00:05:08,140 - [William] And then she drops a bombshell. 113 00:05:09,063 --> 00:05:11,346 She believes Jeffrey was at Antietam 114 00:05:11,346 --> 00:05:13,117 in a previous life. 115 00:05:14,268 --> 00:05:15,530 - She said, "You died there, 116 00:05:15,530 --> 00:05:19,263 "but you hung around for a long time." 117 00:05:20,775 --> 00:05:22,437 I said, "Just let me ask you one question, 118 00:05:22,437 --> 00:05:25,309 "are you sure he was dead." 119 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,181 She said he was full of holes. 120 00:05:27,181 --> 00:05:30,034 That's one thing I'll never forget. 121 00:05:31,245 --> 00:05:33,207 - [William] The bizarre encounter will lead Jeffrey 122 00:05:33,207 --> 00:05:36,240 on a journey in search of the truth. 123 00:05:37,243 --> 00:05:39,366 - The next day, I took my wife to work, 124 00:05:39,366 --> 00:05:40,747 and I remembered the magazine 125 00:05:40,747 --> 00:05:41,778 that I had to have, 126 00:05:42,208 --> 00:05:43,109 had it for a year and a half, 127 00:05:43,109 --> 00:05:44,120 and hadn't read it. 128 00:05:45,592 --> 00:05:48,455 I opened it up to the section on Antietam 129 00:05:48,455 --> 00:05:49,956 where I had had the experience, 130 00:05:49,956 --> 00:05:51,738 and my eyes skimmed down the page, 131 00:05:51,738 --> 00:05:55,392 and I see a photograph of a general. 132 00:05:56,423 --> 00:05:58,104 - [William] As Jeffrey stares at the photo, 133 00:05:58,104 --> 00:06:00,316 he is stunned by what he sees. 134 00:06:00,727 --> 00:06:01,868 - I look over, and this picture says 135 00:06:01,868 --> 00:06:03,490 General John B. Gordon, 136 00:06:03,490 --> 00:06:05,091 and when I see the face, 137 00:06:06,342 --> 00:06:08,427 I tell people I know the face very well, 138 00:06:08,427 --> 00:06:09,698 I shaved it every morning. 139 00:06:14,633 --> 00:06:16,795 Unless you're unfeeling, unthinking 140 00:06:16,795 --> 00:06:19,017 completely drained of any type of emotion 141 00:06:19,017 --> 00:06:20,999 it's going to have a bit of an effect on you 142 00:06:20,999 --> 00:06:22,831 even if it's just awe and wonder. 143 00:06:24,362 --> 00:06:25,293 - [William] Remarkably, 144 00:06:25,884 --> 00:06:28,817 Jeffrey is a double for John B. Gordon, 145 00:06:29,788 --> 00:06:32,961 but as he reads on things get even weirder. 146 00:06:33,371 --> 00:06:35,253 - I read in the story he had been wounded five times 147 00:06:35,253 --> 00:06:36,735 that day, he was shot through the face 148 00:06:36,735 --> 00:06:38,927 and I figured he had probably been killed there. 149 00:06:40,358 --> 00:06:41,880 - [William] John B. Gordon was a general 150 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:43,832 of the 6th Alabama regiment. 151 00:06:44,823 --> 00:06:48,016 A hero who was shot in the bloody battle of Antietam. 152 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,271 Could there be a link between Jeffrey 153 00:06:53,271 --> 00:06:56,465 and a general who had died nearly 200 years before him? 154 00:06:58,697 --> 00:07:01,590 Suddenly, Jeffrey makes another startling connection. 155 00:07:03,021 --> 00:07:06,144 - It was on my 30th birthday, at 12 midnight I got 156 00:07:06,144 --> 00:07:09,227 such a horrendous pain in my jaw, 157 00:07:09,227 --> 00:07:10,979 it radiated down into my neck. 158 00:07:11,530 --> 00:07:13,271 I know what it feels like to be shot through the face, 159 00:07:13,271 --> 00:07:14,563 that's how bad it hurt. 160 00:07:15,193 --> 00:07:17,095 - [William] Was Jeffrey's mysterious pain 161 00:07:17,095 --> 00:07:20,228 somehow related to General Gordon's injuries? 162 00:07:21,159 --> 00:07:22,721 - Gordon was 30 years old when he was shot 163 00:07:22,721 --> 00:07:25,253 through the face, same age. 164 00:07:26,224 --> 00:07:31,099 That was 10, 15 years before I ever heard Gordon's name. 165 00:07:32,090 --> 00:07:34,092 It wasn't like this was worked backwards. 166 00:07:34,092 --> 00:07:37,255 I heard about Gordon's wounding, 167 00:07:37,255 --> 00:07:40,739 I went over to the hospital made them fudge up 168 00:07:40,739 --> 00:07:44,114 some documents that mimicked the wound 169 00:07:44,114 --> 00:07:48,348 that Gordon had more than 100 years before. 170 00:07:49,159 --> 00:07:52,923 Kind of hard to do and I have the documents 171 00:07:52,923 --> 00:07:54,835 to prove the hospital visit. 172 00:07:56,166 --> 00:07:57,928 - [William] Could all these remarkable similarities 173 00:07:57,928 --> 00:07:59,680 be explained by coincidence? 174 00:08:02,693 --> 00:08:04,845 Jeffrey believes there's only one answer. 175 00:08:06,857 --> 00:08:10,400 - I don't need any more proof that there's reincarnation 176 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,412 because of all the things that happened to me. 177 00:08:12,535 --> 00:08:15,588 We never die, we're continuous. 178 00:08:16,619 --> 00:08:18,470 We always have been, we always will be. 179 00:08:19,061 --> 00:08:21,473 That's how Gordon found me at Antietam. 180 00:08:22,184 --> 00:08:23,345 I always say it's the other way around 181 00:08:23,345 --> 00:08:24,887 from what people think, I say Gordon 182 00:08:24,887 --> 00:08:29,041 found me where our hearts touched at Antietam. 183 00:08:32,555 --> 00:08:33,986 - What an extraordinary story. 184 00:08:35,758 --> 00:08:39,221 Did a Civil War general who died over a century ago 185 00:08:39,221 --> 00:08:44,226 reincarnate, jump into Jeffrey Keene's body 186 00:08:48,811 --> 00:08:51,728 and continue his life through Jeffrey's eyes? 187 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,643 Are we all in a continuous cycle 188 00:08:56,643 --> 00:09:00,066 of birth and rebirth, simply interchanging bodies 189 00:09:00,066 --> 00:09:01,387 as we go, and if so, 190 00:09:01,387 --> 00:09:04,060 this raises yet another question. 191 00:09:04,530 --> 00:09:05,622 Do we get to choose? 192 00:09:06,693 --> 00:09:07,734 I mean who was I before I was 193 00:09:07,734 --> 00:09:09,886 who I am now and who will I be next? 194 00:09:10,296 --> 00:09:11,507 Could I be you? 195 00:09:12,358 --> 00:09:16,482 Now that is definitely Weird or What? 196 00:09:20,577 --> 00:09:24,030 Dr. Cynthia Meyersburg is a Harvard psychologist. 197 00:09:24,901 --> 00:09:28,204 She believes reincarnation is simply a function 198 00:09:28,204 --> 00:09:30,116 of how we deal with memories. 199 00:09:31,547 --> 00:09:33,409 - Something odd happens and people go looking, 200 00:09:33,409 --> 00:09:35,682 as we all do, to make sense of their lives. 201 00:09:36,232 --> 00:09:39,035 If you have a rich imaginability, it becomes very difficult 202 00:09:39,035 --> 00:09:40,777 to distinguish between something that's a record 203 00:09:40,777 --> 00:09:43,209 of perception or a record of imagination. 204 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:45,612 Did I dream that or did it happen? 205 00:09:45,922 --> 00:09:49,195 Did I hear about that, or did I actually experience that? 206 00:09:49,505 --> 00:09:50,887 It can be very difficult. 207 00:09:50,887 --> 00:09:53,810 - [William] Cynthia believes that one way we do this 208 00:09:53,810 --> 00:09:55,982 is by creating false memories. 209 00:09:57,634 --> 00:09:59,265 - False memories are what they sound like. 210 00:09:59,716 --> 00:10:01,357 They're recollections for either events 211 00:10:01,357 --> 00:10:03,180 that didn't take place or didn't take place 212 00:10:03,180 --> 00:10:04,892 in the way in which they're remembered. 213 00:10:06,203 --> 00:10:07,985 - [William] Are people like Jeffrey just making 214 00:10:07,985 --> 00:10:09,276 these stories up? 215 00:10:10,507 --> 00:10:11,739 If so, why? 216 00:10:13,310 --> 00:10:14,992 - Memory, although it feels a lot of times 217 00:10:14,992 --> 00:10:17,484 as though we're watching a film in our mind's eye, 218 00:10:18,175 --> 00:10:19,037 that's not what's really happening. 219 00:10:19,037 --> 00:10:21,099 We're always reconstructing it from little pieces 220 00:10:21,099 --> 00:10:23,882 we have saved in a sense, and we put it back together 221 00:10:23,882 --> 00:10:26,635 and our brain fills in for us the missing parts. 222 00:10:28,887 --> 00:10:30,809 - [William] Researchers have been able to study 223 00:10:30,809 --> 00:10:31,820 this phenomenon. 224 00:10:32,691 --> 00:10:34,352 - It's possible to induce false memories 225 00:10:34,352 --> 00:10:36,564 in a matter of moments. 226 00:10:37,115 --> 00:10:39,678 For instance, if someone sees a doctored photograph 227 00:10:39,678 --> 00:10:44,212 showing him or her as a child in a hot air balloon, 228 00:10:44,723 --> 00:10:47,475 people can very quickly form memories for it. 229 00:10:48,586 --> 00:10:50,448 The way we measure false memory propensity 230 00:10:50,448 --> 00:10:51,730 in the lab is we use something called 231 00:10:51,730 --> 00:10:54,422 the DRM, or the Deese-Roediger-McDermott paradigm. 232 00:10:55,093 --> 00:10:57,856 What the paradigm consists of is we present people 233 00:10:57,856 --> 00:10:59,007 with lists of words. 234 00:10:59,357 --> 00:11:00,829 In our lab they listen to them. 235 00:11:01,339 --> 00:11:03,682 Then they're asked to write down without guessing 236 00:11:03,682 --> 00:11:05,754 only those words they're certain they've heard. 237 00:11:06,424 --> 00:11:08,927 What makes the task tricky is that each list of words, 238 00:11:08,927 --> 00:11:11,489 there is a word that isn't on the list but is related 239 00:11:11,489 --> 00:11:12,781 to all the words on the list. 240 00:11:13,231 --> 00:11:17,826 So the words might be sour, bitter, 241 00:11:18,176 --> 00:11:20,929 sugar, honey, and so forth, 242 00:11:21,539 --> 00:11:23,411 but the word sweet is never said. 243 00:11:24,022 --> 00:11:26,725 In the lab, past life memory participants 244 00:11:26,725 --> 00:11:30,409 were much more likely to endorse having heard words 245 00:11:30,409 --> 00:11:32,081 that they didn't actually hear. 246 00:11:32,832 --> 00:11:35,976 However, they were no different in terms 247 00:11:35,976 --> 00:11:38,438 of being able to correctly identify words 248 00:11:38,438 --> 00:11:39,850 that they did hear. 249 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,863 So they were more likely to have false memories 250 00:11:42,863 --> 00:11:45,585 of words they didn't hear, but their true memory 251 00:11:45,585 --> 00:11:47,898 looked just like the control participants. 252 00:11:48,228 --> 00:11:50,170 I interpret it to mean that although 253 00:11:50,170 --> 00:11:53,393 there is no difference in ability to form true recollections 254 00:11:53,393 --> 00:11:56,056 and true memories, there's an increased vulnerability 255 00:11:56,056 --> 00:11:59,389 to form memories for events that perhaps did not occur. 256 00:12:00,460 --> 00:12:02,663 - [William] Can Jeffrey Keene's claim of reincarnation 257 00:12:02,663 --> 00:12:05,316 be dismissed as a series of false memories? 258 00:12:06,988 --> 00:12:08,840 Does it explain what struck him down? 259 00:12:11,592 --> 00:12:13,274 - People come to believe they have past lives 260 00:12:13,274 --> 00:12:14,936 because something weird happens, 261 00:12:14,936 --> 00:12:16,778 something that's outside of the norm 262 00:12:16,778 --> 00:12:18,499 in some way for them that they need 263 00:12:18,499 --> 00:12:19,670 an explanation for. 264 00:12:21,182 --> 00:12:22,844 - [William] Is reincarnation real 265 00:12:22,844 --> 00:12:25,176 or simply a product of our minds? 266 00:12:26,007 --> 00:12:29,700 Do we all have past, present, and future lives? 267 00:12:30,932 --> 00:12:33,234 - We know so little about the nature of reality 268 00:12:33,234 --> 00:12:35,656 that I think it'd be very, very foolish 269 00:12:35,656 --> 00:12:37,188 to say that this cannot happen. 270 00:12:38,339 --> 00:12:40,221 - [William] An emotional collapse at a Civil War 271 00:12:40,221 --> 00:12:42,623 battleground leads a man to believe he is 272 00:12:42,623 --> 00:12:44,996 the reincarnation of a dead general. 273 00:12:47,028 --> 00:12:49,941 Is it possible we all have past lives? 274 00:12:51,933 --> 00:12:53,554 Tariq Sattaur is a facilitator 275 00:12:53,554 --> 00:12:55,907 at the Ontario Hypnosis Centre. 276 00:12:57,498 --> 00:12:59,941 He not only believes reincarnation's real, 277 00:12:59,941 --> 00:13:02,864 he can demonstrate it using a process called 278 00:13:02,864 --> 00:13:04,775 past life regression. 279 00:13:05,867 --> 00:13:08,749 - Past life regression is a series of steps 280 00:13:08,749 --> 00:13:11,072 that you go through in order to access memories 281 00:13:11,072 --> 00:13:12,804 from previous lifetimes. 282 00:13:13,134 --> 00:13:17,298 It is allowing the conscious mind to be put aside 283 00:13:17,298 --> 00:13:20,411 for a while, as you access the subconscious mind. 284 00:13:20,902 --> 00:13:23,414 Begin by just lightly closing your eyes now. 285 00:13:23,764 --> 00:13:25,887 - [William] Tariq is preparing a patient, Karen, 286 00:13:25,887 --> 00:13:28,810 to travel back not only deep into her own past, 287 00:13:28,810 --> 00:13:31,752 but to lives she may have lived before 288 00:13:31,752 --> 00:13:35,326 and from where he can access her memories. 289 00:13:37,158 --> 00:13:40,101 - Imagine if you will above your head is a point 290 00:13:40,101 --> 00:13:44,335 of absolutely pure white light. 291 00:13:45,166 --> 00:13:46,828 It starts by first taking the client back 292 00:13:46,828 --> 00:13:48,990 through age regression 293 00:13:48,990 --> 00:13:51,893 and typically it's about 14 or 15 years old 294 00:13:51,893 --> 00:13:53,744 and then to three or four years old. 295 00:13:54,755 --> 00:13:57,058 - I'm on my mom's lap and I'm getting 296 00:13:57,058 --> 00:13:58,289 all of her attention. 297 00:13:59,060 --> 00:14:01,402 - [William] Karen has now gone back over 30 years. 298 00:14:01,402 --> 00:14:05,086 The next step will take her into what is known 299 00:14:05,086 --> 00:14:09,210 as blue mist, a space in between her current life 300 00:14:09,210 --> 00:14:11,422 and the one she lived before. 301 00:14:12,113 --> 00:14:14,135 - [Tariq] Take a deep breath now 302 00:14:14,135 --> 00:14:16,918 and go beyond the blue mist finding yourself 303 00:14:16,918 --> 00:14:19,430 at a still earlier time. 304 00:14:20,741 --> 00:14:23,604 - [William] Incredibly it appears Karen has 305 00:14:23,604 --> 00:14:25,476 now entered a former life. 306 00:14:26,247 --> 00:14:29,070 - I am climbing rocks 307 00:14:29,070 --> 00:14:32,463 and there's a forest nearby. 308 00:14:33,114 --> 00:14:34,385 - [Tariq] Are you male or female? 309 00:14:34,775 --> 00:14:36,047 - I'm male. 310 00:14:36,717 --> 00:14:38,349 I think I'm hunting. 311 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:40,171 - Okay. 312 00:14:40,581 --> 00:14:44,015 - [William] Tariq believes what Karen is seeing is real. 313 00:14:44,405 --> 00:14:45,907 - They're interacting, they're in the body 314 00:14:45,907 --> 00:14:49,230 of that past life, they can see out of that person's eyes. 315 00:14:49,230 --> 00:14:51,262 It's very, very personal. 316 00:14:53,454 --> 00:14:54,936 - [William] To complete the session, Tariq must 317 00:14:54,936 --> 00:14:56,918 reverse the process and bring Karen back 318 00:14:56,918 --> 00:14:59,911 into her current life and present age. 319 00:15:02,083 --> 00:15:05,957 - [Tariq] And one, eyes open, back. 320 00:15:11,352 --> 00:15:14,265 - [William] Did Karen actually visit her former life? 321 00:15:15,116 --> 00:15:19,570 Is past life regression evidence that reincarnation is real? 322 00:15:21,402 --> 00:15:23,514 Dr. Stuart Hameroff is a scientist. 323 00:15:24,225 --> 00:15:26,207 He believes the only way to find real proof 324 00:15:26,207 --> 00:15:29,220 of reincarnation is by using science. 325 00:15:30,391 --> 00:15:32,053 - There's a lot of anecdotal evidence 326 00:15:32,053 --> 00:15:34,096 for apparent reincarnation 327 00:15:34,096 --> 00:15:38,550 but it's been dismissed because it seems irrational. 328 00:15:39,281 --> 00:15:41,903 Now we have a theory, a possible explanation 329 00:15:41,903 --> 00:15:44,947 so I think all this evidence needs to be reevaluated 330 00:15:44,947 --> 00:15:46,458 and considered seriously. 331 00:15:47,849 --> 00:15:49,551 - [William] Hameroff's theory concerns one 332 00:15:49,551 --> 00:15:53,205 of the greatest mysteries of both religion and science, 333 00:15:54,356 --> 00:15:55,498 the soul. 334 00:15:55,498 --> 00:15:58,061 - I think the soul is our consciousness, the sum total 335 00:15:58,061 --> 00:16:00,683 of our memories and conscious awareness 336 00:16:00,683 --> 00:16:03,967 and I think it can exist outside the body after life, 337 00:16:03,967 --> 00:16:05,958 and possibly in reincarnation. 338 00:16:06,929 --> 00:16:08,611 - [William] But even more remarkable is 339 00:16:08,611 --> 00:16:10,773 that Hameroff thinks the soul exists 340 00:16:10,773 --> 00:16:13,036 as a series of information, 341 00:16:13,036 --> 00:16:15,788 quantifiable by physics. 342 00:16:16,819 --> 00:16:19,222 - I think a quantum version of consciousness 343 00:16:19,222 --> 00:16:21,504 can give rise to something like a quantum soul 344 00:16:21,504 --> 00:16:24,687 that can account for a lot of these anecdotal stories 345 00:16:24,687 --> 00:16:26,819 that we've been hearing for eons. 346 00:16:27,350 --> 00:16:29,572 - [William] Many scientists believe consciousness 347 00:16:29,572 --> 00:16:33,376 exists with cells in the brain, but Hameroff thinks 348 00:16:33,376 --> 00:16:37,240 it exists on a subatomic level in quantum particles 349 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,693 that can stay connected and survive death. 350 00:16:41,504 --> 00:16:43,526 - When a patient has a cardiac arrest 351 00:16:43,526 --> 00:16:46,269 and is resuscitated, they often tell a story 352 00:16:46,269 --> 00:16:49,632 of a white light, a tunnel, and in many cases 353 00:16:49,632 --> 00:16:51,614 floating above their body looking down 354 00:16:51,614 --> 00:16:52,665 on what's going on. 355 00:16:53,656 --> 00:16:56,159 This could be consciousness as quantum information 356 00:16:56,159 --> 00:16:58,761 dissipating, when the patient's resuscitated 357 00:16:58,761 --> 00:17:00,843 the quantum information goes back 358 00:17:00,843 --> 00:17:02,865 and the patient wakes up and reports having 359 00:17:02,865 --> 00:17:04,487 had a near death experience and perhaps 360 00:17:04,487 --> 00:17:06,219 even an out-of-body experience. 361 00:17:06,809 --> 00:17:08,381 - [William] It's an incredible theory, 362 00:17:08,891 --> 00:17:11,734 but if our souls do exist in quantum form, 363 00:17:11,734 --> 00:17:14,207 how are they reincarnated? 364 00:17:14,817 --> 00:17:16,899 - It's conceivable that this quantum information, 365 00:17:16,899 --> 00:17:19,702 the quantum soul if you will, could reenter an embryo 366 00:17:19,702 --> 00:17:21,814 which would be reincarnation. 367 00:17:23,326 --> 00:17:25,388 - [William] Do our souls consist of information 368 00:17:25,388 --> 00:17:28,161 that can travel, even into an embryo? 369 00:17:29,192 --> 00:17:31,374 Have we solved one of the greatest 370 00:17:31,374 --> 00:17:33,226 mysteries in the universe? 371 00:17:34,457 --> 00:17:36,719 - We know so little about the nature of reality 372 00:17:36,719 --> 00:17:39,202 that I think it'd be very, very foolish 373 00:17:39,202 --> 00:17:40,813 to say that this cannot happen 374 00:17:41,384 --> 00:17:42,625 and with the anecdotal evidence 375 00:17:42,625 --> 00:17:44,167 from reincarnation and memories 376 00:17:44,167 --> 00:17:46,069 and past life and so forth, it seems to me 377 00:17:46,069 --> 00:17:49,712 that it may be more logical to assume 378 00:17:49,712 --> 00:17:50,743 that it does occur. 379 00:17:52,555 --> 00:17:54,257 - [William] Was Jeffrey Keene the reincarnation 380 00:17:54,257 --> 00:17:55,748 of a long-dead general? 381 00:17:56,519 --> 00:17:59,112 Or did false memories convince him it was true? 382 00:18:00,923 --> 00:18:04,837 Does the soul exist independent of our bodies? 383 00:18:05,388 --> 00:18:09,662 Can we visit past lives, and if we can, what will we find? 384 00:18:11,554 --> 00:18:14,086 Weird or what? 385 00:18:24,467 --> 00:18:26,169 Scientists in England conduct a series 386 00:18:26,169 --> 00:18:27,980 of groundbreaking experiments. 387 00:18:29,352 --> 00:18:33,105 Did they find the first genuine proof of the afterlife? 388 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:39,392 Hello. 389 00:18:41,384 --> 00:18:42,635 Hello? 390 00:18:44,947 --> 00:18:46,409 I don't know about you, but I've always been scared 391 00:18:46,409 --> 00:18:47,551 of things that go bump in the night. 392 00:18:47,551 --> 00:18:48,273 (glass breaks) 393 00:18:48,273 --> 00:18:49,184 (cat meows) 394 00:18:50,175 --> 00:18:50,776 Fred! 395 00:18:50,776 --> 00:18:51,637 (cat meows) 396 00:18:51,637 --> 00:18:54,750 Most of them we can explain, but what about those we can't? 397 00:18:56,402 --> 00:18:59,645 Are we surrounded by spiritual entities, 398 00:18:59,645 --> 00:19:02,087 the remains of those that have passed 399 00:19:02,087 --> 00:19:03,559 from this life? 400 00:19:03,929 --> 00:19:05,941 Are they what we call 401 00:19:07,993 --> 00:19:09,285 ghosts? 402 00:19:09,675 --> 00:19:10,926 And if they are there, 403 00:19:12,658 --> 00:19:14,029 are they friendly? 404 00:19:14,580 --> 00:19:15,971 and 405 00:19:16,382 --> 00:19:17,753 can we 406 00:19:18,864 --> 00:19:20,556 communicate with them? 407 00:19:21,207 --> 00:19:21,457 (glass breaks) 408 00:19:21,457 --> 00:19:22,009 (cat meows) 409 00:19:22,009 --> 00:19:23,160 Fred! 410 00:19:25,092 --> 00:19:26,284 Phew! 411 00:19:28,176 --> 00:19:30,157 In 1993, a team of researchers 412 00:19:30,157 --> 00:19:32,560 in the town of Scole, United Kingdom 413 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,102 set out to find indisputable evidence 414 00:19:35,102 --> 00:19:36,414 of life after death. 415 00:19:41,709 --> 00:19:43,971 Conducting a series of extraordinary seances 416 00:19:46,464 --> 00:19:48,666 they witnessed paranormal events 417 00:19:49,277 --> 00:19:51,329 that would mystify science. 418 00:19:51,859 --> 00:19:54,412 They called it the Scole Experiment. 419 00:19:55,303 --> 00:19:56,884 - What we didn't know was that it was going 420 00:19:56,884 --> 00:19:58,846 to become very, very special and work 421 00:19:58,846 --> 00:20:01,389 in a pioneering way and to provide proof 422 00:20:01,389 --> 00:20:03,241 of life after death. 423 00:20:05,373 --> 00:20:07,225 - [William] Robin Foy lead the seances. 424 00:20:08,276 --> 00:20:10,298 He believes the experiment was unique 425 00:20:10,298 --> 00:20:12,740 because of their attempts to make sure 426 00:20:12,740 --> 00:20:13,971 it was credible. 427 00:20:14,842 --> 00:20:16,884 - It was important for us to show 428 00:20:16,884 --> 00:20:18,986 to the outside world that we'd taken 429 00:20:18,986 --> 00:20:20,968 every security precaution that we could 430 00:20:20,968 --> 00:20:24,021 to ensure the work was fraud proof. 431 00:20:24,792 --> 00:20:26,374 - [William] To conquer the skeptics, the seances 432 00:20:26,374 --> 00:20:29,557 were held in the supposedly impenetrable cellar 433 00:20:29,557 --> 00:20:30,928 of a suburban house. 434 00:20:31,839 --> 00:20:33,000 - The whole place was brick. 435 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,422 There were no trap doors. 436 00:20:34,422 --> 00:20:38,035 The only door into the cellar was locked internally. 437 00:20:39,787 --> 00:20:42,450 Each one of us would wear luminous armbands 438 00:20:42,450 --> 00:20:45,273 so that everybody who was present could see 439 00:20:45,273 --> 00:20:46,604 that no one moved. 440 00:20:47,375 --> 00:20:50,780 We were using a table which was actually fraud proof 441 00:20:50,780 --> 00:20:53,693 so nobody could get under it and do anything at all. 442 00:20:53,983 --> 00:20:56,526 We were seeking to actually get viable proof 443 00:20:56,526 --> 00:20:58,678 that we live on after we die. 444 00:21:00,069 --> 00:21:01,411 - [William] The Scole Experiment began 445 00:21:01,411 --> 00:21:03,202 in November 1993. 446 00:21:04,994 --> 00:21:08,217 As Robin Foy and his team assembled in their cellar 447 00:21:08,217 --> 00:21:11,110 they had no idea what might happen. 448 00:21:13,583 --> 00:21:16,316 But it didn't take long to find out. 449 00:21:16,846 --> 00:21:19,489 - After a short while, the spirit lights come, 450 00:21:19,489 --> 00:21:23,093 little lights about the size of a pea or slightly larger, 451 00:21:23,093 --> 00:21:25,996 very bright and they would sort of perform aerobatics. 452 00:21:27,458 --> 00:21:31,873 Later on there were spirit voices speaking from midair. 453 00:21:33,525 --> 00:21:35,987 We were able to hear on a one to one basis 454 00:21:35,987 --> 00:21:37,519 all of the spirit people. 455 00:21:37,969 --> 00:21:41,012 Everybody in that room would be regularly touched 456 00:21:41,012 --> 00:21:42,724 by spirit hands. 457 00:21:46,718 --> 00:21:48,541 - [William] As the experiment continues, 458 00:21:48,541 --> 00:21:51,203 the team is amazed as the paranormal activity 459 00:21:51,203 --> 00:21:53,095 becomes more intense. 460 00:21:54,066 --> 00:21:56,268 - All sorts of different things would materialize 461 00:21:56,268 --> 00:21:58,941 in midair and then fall down onto the table. 462 00:21:59,572 --> 00:22:01,914 We would hear the bangers hit the table, 463 00:22:01,914 --> 00:22:05,097 we may actually have solid spirit personalities 464 00:22:05,097 --> 00:22:08,020 moving around in the room, we were pushing 465 00:22:08,020 --> 00:22:10,943 the bounds of psychic research further forward 466 00:22:10,943 --> 00:22:13,025 than anyone had been able to produce 467 00:22:13,025 --> 00:22:15,458 or witness anywhere in the past. 468 00:22:17,069 --> 00:22:18,431 - [William] Encouraged by the success, 469 00:22:18,431 --> 00:22:20,543 Foy decided to try something extraordinary. 470 00:22:22,194 --> 00:22:24,036 Something that would prove they had made 471 00:22:24,036 --> 00:22:25,928 contact with the afterlife. 472 00:22:28,020 --> 00:22:30,102 - We were doing an experiment with a film 473 00:22:30,102 --> 00:22:32,585 that was still in its plastic container 474 00:22:32,585 --> 00:22:35,868 and we would have this locked into a security box 475 00:22:35,868 --> 00:22:38,851 to ensure that nothing was ever done by us 476 00:22:38,851 --> 00:22:40,262 to that film. 477 00:22:41,313 --> 00:22:43,886 It was a remarkable and ambitious idea. 478 00:22:44,457 --> 00:22:46,719 The team hoped a spirit might somehow 479 00:22:46,719 --> 00:22:49,632 implant an image on the film inside the box. 480 00:22:50,483 --> 00:22:53,966 If so, it could be the proof they were looking for. 481 00:22:55,648 --> 00:22:59,211 When they finally checked the film, they couldn't 482 00:22:59,211 --> 00:23:00,763 believe their eyes. 483 00:23:01,173 --> 00:23:02,134 - That was quite amazing. 484 00:23:04,126 --> 00:23:06,319 We had hundreds of photographs that were produced 485 00:23:06,319 --> 00:23:10,153 to show us various aspects of the spirit world itself. 486 00:23:10,424 --> 00:23:12,285 Some of them were so fantastic they really would 487 00:23:12,285 --> 00:23:13,397 knock your socks off. 488 00:23:15,268 --> 00:23:16,550 - [William] But there was one photograph 489 00:23:16,550 --> 00:23:18,061 that was different from the rest. 490 00:23:21,495 --> 00:23:22,956 A haunting image of what seemed to be 491 00:23:22,956 --> 00:23:24,568 a woman's face. 492 00:23:25,398 --> 00:23:26,680 - You can actually see on this one 493 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,592 areas of this person's face. 494 00:23:30,243 --> 00:23:31,394 - [William] Who is the woman? 495 00:23:32,405 --> 00:23:34,297 And how did her image appear on the film? 496 00:23:35,408 --> 00:23:37,671 Foy believes this chilling incident makes 497 00:23:37,671 --> 00:23:40,914 the Scole experiment the definitive exploration 498 00:23:40,914 --> 00:23:43,547 into the presence of the afterlife. 499 00:23:44,277 --> 00:23:47,020 - The Scole Experiment, I think, was very, very important 500 00:23:47,020 --> 00:23:50,183 because it went further than anybody had ever been able 501 00:23:50,183 --> 00:23:54,387 to go before in proving the real existence 502 00:23:54,387 --> 00:23:55,859 of life after death. 503 00:23:56,630 --> 00:23:58,411 - [William] Despite his claims, many skeptics 504 00:23:58,411 --> 00:23:59,923 doubted the results. 505 00:24:01,354 --> 00:24:04,337 Did Robin Foy and his team of researchers make 506 00:24:04,337 --> 00:24:06,129 contact with the other side? 507 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,221 Is the Scole Experiment proof 508 00:24:08,221 --> 00:24:10,954 that there's life after death? 509 00:24:11,625 --> 00:24:14,257 Or could it have been an elaborate fake? 510 00:24:14,748 --> 00:24:19,122 One way to find out is to try it for ourselves. 511 00:24:19,432 --> 00:24:20,604 (people scream) 512 00:24:21,975 --> 00:24:25,138 A UK research team experiences a remarkable series 513 00:24:25,138 --> 00:24:28,792 of paranormal events during a series of seances. 514 00:24:29,883 --> 00:24:32,796 Did they find proof of life after death? 515 00:24:35,068 --> 00:24:37,140 Brian Dunning is a scientific journalist. 516 00:24:37,931 --> 00:24:40,313 He believes the events of Scole were nothing more 517 00:24:40,313 --> 00:24:42,085 than an illusion. 518 00:24:42,936 --> 00:24:44,357 - Here's the problem with seances is that 519 00:24:44,357 --> 00:24:47,400 seances have existed as a magic trick 520 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:48,716 for 200 years. 521 00:24:49,947 --> 00:24:52,109 They are an illusionist giving the impression 522 00:24:52,109 --> 00:24:53,901 that spirits are in the room. 523 00:24:54,151 --> 00:24:55,422 They are a magic trick. 524 00:24:56,013 --> 00:24:58,255 It's almost impossible to envision a seance 525 00:24:58,255 --> 00:25:01,008 being done seriously by people. 526 00:25:01,298 --> 00:25:02,770 They're always performances. 527 00:25:03,120 --> 00:25:06,754 So that's why, yeah, it's hard to take a seance seriously. 528 00:25:08,205 --> 00:25:10,848 - What we are trying to recreate are the famous 529 00:25:10,848 --> 00:25:12,840 Scole Experiments. 530 00:25:14,491 --> 00:25:16,624 - [William] Was the Scole Experiment a magic trick? 531 00:25:17,274 --> 00:25:20,678 To test Dunning's theory, we've set up a fake seance 532 00:25:20,678 --> 00:25:23,110 using a professional illusionist. 533 00:25:23,941 --> 00:25:25,502 To create the conditions at Scole, 534 00:25:25,502 --> 00:25:28,115 the participants are sitting in pitch darkness. 535 00:25:28,946 --> 00:25:31,488 Using night vision cameras, we can see them, 536 00:25:31,488 --> 00:25:33,701 but they can see nothing at all. 537 00:25:34,652 --> 00:25:37,765 - The session begins with everyone holding hands. 538 00:25:38,295 --> 00:25:40,550 Give me your hand here and your hand here. 539 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,484 Please do not break the psychic circle at any time 540 00:25:45,484 --> 00:25:47,516 during the seance. 541 00:25:47,727 --> 00:25:49,278 Spirits, 542 00:25:50,449 --> 00:25:52,201 are you with us tonight? 543 00:25:54,894 --> 00:25:56,055 - [William] The Scole Experiment claimed 544 00:25:56,055 --> 00:25:58,648 that spirit voices seemed to come from midair. 545 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,823 The illusionist will attempt to recreate them 546 00:26:03,823 --> 00:26:07,096 with an assistant using a cardboard tube 547 00:26:07,707 --> 00:26:08,838 as a megaphone. 548 00:26:12,576 --> 00:26:13,787 - Speak to us. 549 00:26:18,251 --> 00:26:21,514 - [William] Faking disembodied voices seems simple. 550 00:26:23,166 --> 00:26:24,312 - Charles, the name Charles. 551 00:26:24,903 --> 00:26:27,065 - [William] But can they convince these participants 552 00:26:27,065 --> 00:26:30,048 they are being physically touched by spirits 553 00:26:30,048 --> 00:26:32,205 as claimed by the people at Scole? 554 00:26:32,205 --> 00:26:34,848 - My spirit guide I'm going to ask my spirit guide, 555 00:26:34,848 --> 00:26:37,988 Francene will you give us 556 00:26:37,988 --> 00:26:40,280 a physical manifestation? 557 00:26:40,530 --> 00:26:42,713 I want Francene to come towards the center 558 00:26:42,713 --> 00:26:43,311 of the table. 559 00:26:43,311 --> 00:26:43,932 - Whoa. 560 00:26:43,932 --> 00:26:45,703 - Whoa what? 561 00:26:46,754 --> 00:26:47,454 What happened? 562 00:26:49,747 --> 00:26:50,817 (people scream) 563 00:26:50,817 --> 00:26:52,208 Whoa, whoa, whoa. 564 00:26:53,740 --> 00:26:55,762 - [William] The final trick centers around 565 00:26:55,762 --> 00:26:58,594 the claim that objects materialized out of thin air. 566 00:27:00,526 --> 00:27:03,239 Is this so easy to disprove? 567 00:27:04,510 --> 00:27:06,102 - Leave us now! 568 00:27:06,793 --> 00:27:07,844 Leave us! 569 00:27:09,075 --> 00:27:10,406 (people scream) 570 00:27:12,839 --> 00:27:14,310 - [William] The experiment is over. 571 00:27:14,801 --> 00:27:17,083 Even though his seance was badly faked 572 00:27:17,083 --> 00:27:20,236 the participants are left visibly shaken. 573 00:27:20,807 --> 00:27:21,526 - Nobody's laughing. 574 00:27:21,526 --> 00:27:23,458 Everybody's took that completely seriously. 575 00:27:23,869 --> 00:27:25,801 It was a very powerful experience for these people. 576 00:27:26,411 --> 00:27:28,013 - [William] Although the participants were fooled, 577 00:27:28,013 --> 00:27:31,456 Brian believes this proves the Scole Experiment 578 00:27:31,456 --> 00:27:32,427 was a hoax. 579 00:27:33,078 --> 00:27:34,339 - We saw a few of the things today 580 00:27:34,339 --> 00:27:36,160 that were reported from the Scole Experiments. 581 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,873 We've seen that those can be easily faked. 582 00:27:39,664 --> 00:27:41,184 Do we know that they faked them at Scole? 583 00:27:41,184 --> 00:27:43,225 No, of course not, because no controls were applied. 584 00:27:43,225 --> 00:27:44,997 We don't know what actually happened. 585 00:27:45,547 --> 00:27:47,629 But when we see how easy it is to fake it, 586 00:27:47,629 --> 00:27:50,242 how can we know that these could have been real? 587 00:27:51,373 --> 00:27:53,495 - Could the greatest experiment into the existence 588 00:27:53,495 --> 00:27:56,197 of the afterlife be just an illusionist's game? 589 00:27:56,197 --> 00:28:01,202 No doubt, magic tricks are easy to perform 590 00:28:01,321 --> 00:28:04,284 and many of the claims made at Scole have 591 00:28:04,284 --> 00:28:06,476 been dismissed out of hand. 592 00:28:08,769 --> 00:28:12,122 But the biggest mystery of all still remains unanswered. 593 00:28:14,674 --> 00:28:16,286 Who is this woman? 594 00:28:17,017 --> 00:28:18,618 And how did her image appear on a roll of film 595 00:28:18,618 --> 00:28:20,310 that was locked inside a box? 596 00:28:20,961 --> 00:28:24,254 Even Houdini would have trouble with that one. 597 00:28:28,168 --> 00:28:30,620 Peter Sramek is a photography expert. 598 00:28:32,132 --> 00:28:34,314 We asked him to examine images 599 00:28:34,314 --> 00:28:35,976 from the Scole Experiment and try 600 00:28:35,976 --> 00:28:38,708 to unlock one of its biggest mysteries. 601 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:44,084 - As I understand it, the film was put into 602 00:28:44,084 --> 00:28:47,808 this box and locked away and the exposure, 603 00:28:47,808 --> 00:28:49,529 the effect on the film was supposed 604 00:28:49,529 --> 00:28:53,080 to have happened while the film was locked up in this box. 605 00:28:54,792 --> 00:28:58,285 My first reaction was this is an interesting manipulation. 606 00:28:58,675 --> 00:29:00,778 I assumed it was something that would have been 607 00:29:00,778 --> 00:29:01,557 done in the darkroom. 608 00:29:01,557 --> 00:29:03,699 It looks very similar to the kinds of distortions, 609 00:29:03,699 --> 00:29:07,864 collages, manipulations that people have done 610 00:29:07,864 --> 00:29:10,736 in the darkroom because it's fun to do. 611 00:29:11,467 --> 00:29:13,139 - [William] But there's no darkroom at Scole. 612 00:29:15,011 --> 00:29:17,804 Was this photograph created by the spirit of a woman? 613 00:29:19,275 --> 00:29:21,557 Peter believes the answer to the mystery lies 614 00:29:21,557 --> 00:29:23,389 in the type of film they used. 615 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,002 - With Polaroid you have the direct development 616 00:29:26,002 --> 00:29:27,573 so there's no darkroom involved. 617 00:29:28,124 --> 00:29:29,986 When you process it, you actually put it 618 00:29:29,986 --> 00:29:34,009 into a container that is full of a gelatinous chemical 619 00:29:34,009 --> 00:29:36,992 that gets spread onto the film evenly 620 00:29:36,992 --> 00:29:41,837 and that is the chemical that develops the film, 621 00:29:41,837 --> 00:29:44,159 contains the dyes that causes the color 622 00:29:44,159 --> 00:29:47,282 and so on, and so you have this jelly like substance 623 00:29:47,282 --> 00:29:49,443 that's being spread over the film to develop it. 624 00:29:49,443 --> 00:29:51,145 You're cranking that through by hand 625 00:29:51,145 --> 00:29:52,676 or sometimes by motor. 626 00:29:54,028 --> 00:29:55,469 And depending on how you crank it 627 00:29:55,469 --> 00:29:59,373 you can get different kinds of distortions and effects 628 00:29:59,373 --> 00:30:01,615 simply for chemical reasons and that, 629 00:30:01,615 --> 00:30:04,849 in my mind, is what happened in these photographs. 630 00:30:05,299 --> 00:30:06,981 All you're seeing is the chemicals the way 631 00:30:06,981 --> 00:30:10,234 that they've affected the film as it's gone through. 632 00:30:11,265 --> 00:30:13,247 What is harder to explain are the actual faces 633 00:30:13,247 --> 00:30:15,189 in the images, they're not light effects, 634 00:30:15,189 --> 00:30:17,151 they're not chemical effects, they actually 635 00:30:17,151 --> 00:30:19,864 are images of faces. 636 00:30:21,295 --> 00:30:23,657 - [William] So how is this haunting image created? 637 00:30:25,019 --> 00:30:26,961 - My explanation for that would be 638 00:30:26,961 --> 00:30:28,983 that the film has been tampered with 639 00:30:28,983 --> 00:30:31,465 and the film has been put through the camera 640 00:30:31,465 --> 00:30:34,288 and these faces have been exposed into it 641 00:30:34,288 --> 00:30:36,881 prior to the supposed experiment. 642 00:30:37,691 --> 00:30:39,233 Then when it's processed these show up 643 00:30:39,233 --> 00:30:41,195 but they show up in this distorted fashion 644 00:30:41,195 --> 00:30:44,368 because of the chemical processing distortion. 645 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,853 And that actually is quite easy. 646 00:30:49,143 --> 00:30:50,814 You can take a roll of film. 647 00:30:51,325 --> 00:30:52,756 I can take this sort of 648 00:30:53,767 --> 00:30:54,768 brand new roll of film, 649 00:30:54,768 --> 00:30:56,090 no one's ever done anything with it, 650 00:30:56,090 --> 00:30:57,641 I can take it, 651 00:30:59,733 --> 00:31:01,555 I can put this film in the camera, 652 00:31:01,555 --> 00:31:03,197 I can shoot the roll of film, 653 00:31:03,197 --> 00:31:04,889 I can wind it back 654 00:31:05,199 --> 00:31:06,380 and as I wind it back 655 00:31:06,380 --> 00:31:09,402 I can leave the leader sticking out 656 00:31:09,402 --> 00:31:11,764 like this and no one knows 657 00:31:11,764 --> 00:31:13,476 whether this film is exposed or not. 658 00:31:14,787 --> 00:31:16,940 - [William] Peter believes he has solved the mystery. 659 00:31:17,730 --> 00:31:21,544 But what if the Scole researchers were telling the truth? 660 00:31:22,315 --> 00:31:23,977 - I don't think while the film was in the box 661 00:31:23,977 --> 00:31:25,939 that any of the effects that we're seeing 662 00:31:25,939 --> 00:31:27,520 could have been created 663 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,264 unless one believes in some sort 664 00:31:31,264 --> 00:31:33,036 of supernatural explanation. 665 00:31:34,147 --> 00:31:36,139 - [William] Is a woman from the spirit world? 666 00:31:37,450 --> 00:31:40,373 Did Robin Foy and his research team find proof 667 00:31:40,373 --> 00:31:43,006 of life after death at Scole? 668 00:31:44,017 --> 00:31:46,049 Or was it an ingenious hoax? 669 00:31:46,799 --> 00:31:47,890 (people scream) 670 00:31:49,882 --> 00:31:54,857 Whatever the truth is, this is Weird or Withhat? 671 00:32:03,156 --> 00:32:05,138 In Haiti a man dies after a sudden 672 00:32:05,138 --> 00:32:06,449 and mysterious illness. 673 00:32:08,541 --> 00:32:11,574 18 years later, he returns from the grave. 674 00:32:12,725 --> 00:32:15,098 Could this prove that zombies exist? 675 00:32:20,213 --> 00:32:23,058 When it comes to the mysteries of the afterlife 676 00:32:23,058 --> 00:32:27,612 perhaps there's nothing weirder than zombies. 677 00:32:29,384 --> 00:32:30,886 The dictionary describes a zombie like this, 678 00:32:30,886 --> 00:32:33,929 the body of a dead person given the semblance of life, 679 00:32:33,929 --> 00:32:37,673 but made mute and willess by a supernatural force 680 00:32:37,673 --> 00:32:39,645 usually for some evil purpose. 681 00:32:40,456 --> 00:32:41,988 Sounds like my bank manager. 682 00:32:42,258 --> 00:32:44,410 But, could it be true? 683 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,804 Could mindless, shuffling cannibals actually exist 684 00:32:50,256 --> 00:32:51,238 outside of Hollywood? 685 00:32:53,810 --> 00:32:56,333 The tiny nation of Haiti is home to many mysteries, 686 00:32:57,444 --> 00:33:00,389 but none weirder than the tale of a man named 687 00:33:00,389 --> 00:33:02,061 Clairvius Narcisse. 688 00:33:04,133 --> 00:33:06,025 Wade Davis is an explorer and author. 689 00:33:07,956 --> 00:33:09,398 He investigated the case which began 690 00:33:09,398 --> 00:33:13,512 in 1962 when Narcisse suddenly became violently ill. 691 00:33:14,803 --> 00:33:17,706 - I mean they're kind of a constellation of symptoms 692 00:33:17,706 --> 00:33:21,530 that reported were so strange that you initially thought 693 00:33:21,530 --> 00:33:24,223 this had to be coming from the realm of science fiction. 694 00:33:25,014 --> 00:33:26,395 - [William] Although doctors worked feverishly, 695 00:33:26,395 --> 00:33:30,249 it's too late to save the stricken Narcisse. 696 00:33:32,901 --> 00:33:34,763 - The death was witnessed by both the physicians 697 00:33:34,763 --> 00:33:37,026 and nurses and his own family members, 698 00:33:37,026 --> 00:33:40,069 and his sister had actually affixed her thumb print 699 00:33:40,069 --> 00:33:43,452 to the death certificate verifying that 700 00:33:43,452 --> 00:33:45,204 this was her brother, her brother had died. 701 00:33:46,555 --> 00:33:48,317 - [William] Devastated, family members 702 00:33:48,317 --> 00:33:51,560 say their final goodbyes and Clairvius 703 00:33:52,691 --> 00:33:54,394 is finally laid to rest. 704 00:33:55,045 --> 00:33:57,547 - You could go to his grave site where the slab 705 00:33:57,547 --> 00:34:00,160 of cement had been placed upon his grave 706 00:34:00,770 --> 00:34:02,462 shortly after his demise. 707 00:34:04,254 --> 00:34:05,355 - [William] It should have been the last 708 00:34:05,355 --> 00:34:07,187 anyone heard of Clairvius Narcisse, 709 00:34:08,718 --> 00:34:11,721 but 18 years later something incredible 710 00:34:11,721 --> 00:34:14,764 will happen that ensures no one 711 00:34:14,764 --> 00:34:16,477 forgets his name. 712 00:34:18,789 --> 00:34:22,273 In 1980, Clairvius' sister is going about daily chores 713 00:34:22,273 --> 00:34:23,884 in her family village. 714 00:34:25,436 --> 00:34:28,109 Suddenly she sees something beyond comprehension. 715 00:34:29,340 --> 00:34:32,203 Standing before her is her deceased brother, 716 00:34:33,654 --> 00:34:37,419 Clairvius Narcisse has risen from the dead. 717 00:34:38,410 --> 00:34:39,451 - He claimed that he was buried, 718 00:34:39,451 --> 00:34:41,953 he claimed that he was magically resuscitated 719 00:34:41,953 --> 00:34:44,776 by a sorcerer and then led off to the north 720 00:34:44,776 --> 00:34:46,098 of the country where he had been working 721 00:34:46,098 --> 00:34:48,890 as a sort of zombie slave for 18 years. 722 00:34:49,121 --> 00:34:52,184 Now, clearly there's no incentive, 723 00:34:52,184 --> 00:34:54,486 economic incentive to create an indentured 724 00:34:54,486 --> 00:34:57,909 force of labor in a country where costs 725 00:34:57,909 --> 00:34:59,381 of labor are trivial. 726 00:35:00,332 --> 00:35:05,086 I think the idea of slavery ties into a deeper concept 727 00:35:05,437 --> 00:35:07,058 which is that the essence of a zombie 728 00:35:07,058 --> 00:35:08,890 is someone who has lost their soul. 729 00:35:10,081 --> 00:35:13,044 But in addition to being cast in perpetuity 730 00:35:13,044 --> 00:35:16,398 into this state of kind of limbo, 731 00:35:17,189 --> 00:35:18,930 you're also said to be made a slave 732 00:35:18,930 --> 00:35:21,893 and of course given the colonial history, 733 00:35:21,893 --> 00:35:25,777 that combines to create a kind of 734 00:35:25,777 --> 00:35:28,840 phenomenon that's almost worse than death 735 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,582 because you lose your personal willpower 736 00:35:30,582 --> 00:35:32,524 and your physical freedom, 737 00:35:32,524 --> 00:35:36,768 and together, that combines to make the plight 738 00:35:36,768 --> 00:35:40,662 of a zombie the worst possible fate of the individual. 739 00:35:40,952 --> 00:35:43,675 Which is precisely why in Haiti the fear is not 740 00:35:43,675 --> 00:35:47,379 of zombies, as the movies imply, the bad movies, 741 00:35:47,379 --> 00:35:48,870 but of becoming a zombie. 742 00:35:50,922 --> 00:35:53,605 Did Clairvius Narcisse return from the dead 743 00:35:55,167 --> 00:35:55,658 a zombie? 744 00:35:56,449 --> 00:35:59,572 - There's no question that this individual 745 00:35:59,572 --> 00:36:01,053 had clearly been pronounced dead 746 00:36:01,053 --> 00:36:03,396 by the doctors and then the question became 747 00:36:03,396 --> 00:36:06,088 why, how, what happened to him? 748 00:36:06,899 --> 00:36:08,341 - [William] This incredible story 749 00:36:08,341 --> 00:36:10,823 attracts the attention of a team of scientists 750 00:36:10,823 --> 00:36:14,737 who are keen to examine the case and uncover the truth. 751 00:36:15,167 --> 00:36:17,029 - They investigated all these lines of evidence, 752 00:36:17,029 --> 00:36:19,892 analysis of the fingerprints by forensic experts, 753 00:36:19,892 --> 00:36:21,634 the testimony of the family members 754 00:36:21,634 --> 00:36:22,745 and the doctors. 755 00:36:23,516 --> 00:36:25,137 - [William] After months of searching 756 00:36:25,137 --> 00:36:28,311 the investigators come to a remarkable conclusion. 757 00:36:29,141 --> 00:36:32,144 - Really led to very reputable scientists 758 00:36:32,144 --> 00:36:33,969 who go public with saying they had found 759 00:36:33,969 --> 00:36:36,181 the first provable instance of a zombie. 760 00:36:36,832 --> 00:36:38,324 - [William] What did the scientists find? 761 00:36:40,776 --> 00:36:42,988 Did Clairvius Narcisse rise from the dead? 762 00:36:43,819 --> 00:36:46,512 Do zombies exist? 763 00:36:48,163 --> 00:36:50,436 Steven Schlozman is a Harvard psychiatrist. 764 00:36:51,687 --> 00:36:53,449 Incredibly, he believes the answer could be 765 00:36:54,870 --> 00:36:55,642 yes. 766 00:36:57,594 --> 00:36:59,796 - When I started thinking about how I would explain 767 00:36:59,796 --> 00:37:02,239 zombies medically it was kind of a lark 768 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,391 and then it ended up getting a little creepy. 769 00:37:05,001 --> 00:37:07,804 The typical zombie in my view is slow 770 00:37:07,804 --> 00:37:11,107 shambling, can't figure even the simplest 771 00:37:11,107 --> 00:37:14,741 of dilemmas out, wants to eat human flesh. 772 00:37:15,732 --> 00:37:18,825 There is ways you could medically explain the behavior. 773 00:37:21,598 --> 00:37:23,760 - [William] Remarkably, Schlozman believes 774 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,702 just a few changes in the human brain 775 00:37:25,702 --> 00:37:28,815 could turn one of us into one of them. 776 00:37:30,006 --> 00:37:32,198 It starts with the cerebellum. 777 00:37:33,330 --> 00:37:35,312 - This is a sheep brain, but imagine this is 778 00:37:35,312 --> 00:37:36,813 a human brain, which looks an awful lot like this, 779 00:37:36,813 --> 00:37:37,964 just bigger. 780 00:37:38,275 --> 00:37:39,696 The function of the cerebellum is 781 00:37:39,696 --> 00:37:41,007 to help us maintain balance. 782 00:37:41,257 --> 00:37:43,620 In zombies we've got to think that there's something 783 00:37:43,620 --> 00:37:45,582 not right with their cerebellum because zombies 784 00:37:45,582 --> 00:37:47,674 are really not balanced well. 785 00:37:47,705 --> 00:37:50,368 They hold their hands out so they can maintain balance. 786 00:37:50,368 --> 00:37:52,390 They've got that wide-based gait, 787 00:37:52,390 --> 00:37:54,312 they've got truncal ataxia, which is when 788 00:37:54,312 --> 00:37:56,253 the trunk of the body moves back and forth 789 00:37:56,253 --> 00:37:59,487 and up and down, that's all cerebellar disease. 790 00:38:00,237 --> 00:38:02,860 And it's easy to sort of think that whatever causes 791 00:38:02,860 --> 00:38:06,273 the zombie plague, must take a wack at the cerebellum. 792 00:38:07,866 --> 00:38:09,067 There are number of diseases 793 00:38:09,067 --> 00:38:10,209 that could affect the cerebellum. 794 00:38:10,209 --> 00:38:14,053 In those cases you have exactly the shambling gait 795 00:38:14,053 --> 00:38:16,265 that you see in the zombie movies. 796 00:38:17,276 --> 00:38:19,008 - [William] The shuffling is one thing, 797 00:38:20,099 --> 00:38:22,972 but what explains a zombie's mindless violence? 798 00:38:24,864 --> 00:38:27,086 - The amygdala is the most primitive part 799 00:38:27,086 --> 00:38:29,088 of the brain, it's the region of the brain 800 00:38:29,088 --> 00:38:31,881 that has very base emotions. 801 00:38:33,192 --> 00:38:34,994 - [William] Our amygdala is the source 802 00:38:34,994 --> 00:38:36,706 of all anger and rage, 803 00:38:37,797 --> 00:38:40,109 but it is kept in check by our frontal lobes, 804 00:38:40,500 --> 00:38:42,291 the most advanced part of our brain. 805 00:38:43,443 --> 00:38:44,564 - So we might have an impulse 806 00:38:44,564 --> 00:38:46,045 when somebody cuts us off in the road, 807 00:38:46,045 --> 00:38:47,347 to yell at them, to tailgate them, 808 00:38:47,347 --> 00:38:48,848 to do something not nice. 809 00:38:48,848 --> 00:38:52,081 The frontal lobe jumps in and stops you from doing that. 810 00:38:52,972 --> 00:38:55,254 When we watch zombie movies we can guess 811 00:38:55,254 --> 00:38:57,557 that zombie frontal lobes are pretty much gone, 812 00:38:57,557 --> 00:38:59,409 they can't hold back their impulses. 813 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,382 - [William] Could a unique combination of brain injuries 814 00:39:02,382 --> 00:39:04,494 somehow create a zombie? 815 00:39:05,545 --> 00:39:07,397 There's just one problem. 816 00:39:08,307 --> 00:39:10,550 - The zombie, by definition, has to die 817 00:39:10,550 --> 00:39:11,701 and be reanimated. 818 00:39:12,051 --> 00:39:13,332 There is no medical basis for something 819 00:39:13,332 --> 00:39:15,725 coming back from the dead so far. 820 00:39:16,335 --> 00:39:17,537 - [William] But how does Schlozman explain 821 00:39:17,537 --> 00:39:20,660 that Clairvius Narcisse was certified dead, 822 00:39:20,660 --> 00:39:23,993 buried, then returned from the grave? 823 00:39:25,104 --> 00:39:26,305 - Maybe he's not telling the truth, 824 00:39:26,305 --> 00:39:28,728 maybe he's undergone some kind of neurologic insult 825 00:39:28,728 --> 00:39:30,169 that prevents him from remembering 826 00:39:30,169 --> 00:39:31,871 what's just happened, but if we're talking 827 00:39:31,871 --> 00:39:33,192 about really rising from the dead, 828 00:39:33,192 --> 00:39:34,484 that doesn't happen. 829 00:39:38,257 --> 00:39:40,800 - [William] A haitian man dies from a mysterious illness, 830 00:39:42,301 --> 00:39:44,534 then returns from the grave 18 years later. 831 00:39:45,264 --> 00:39:47,777 Is he proof that zombies exist? 832 00:39:49,749 --> 00:39:51,370 Wade Davis has investigated the case 833 00:39:51,370 --> 00:39:53,002 and has an incredible theory. 834 00:39:54,594 --> 00:39:57,627 He thinks Clairvius Narcisse didn't die at all. 835 00:39:59,138 --> 00:40:01,441 That something made him just seem to be dead, 836 00:40:01,441 --> 00:40:05,154 but who or what could have fooled the doctors? 837 00:40:05,985 --> 00:40:07,977 - There are lots of drugs that can kill, 838 00:40:08,508 --> 00:40:10,371 but to find a drug that brings you to the doorway 839 00:40:10,371 --> 00:40:13,314 of death, and then brings you back into the realm 840 00:40:13,314 --> 00:40:15,527 of the living would be remarkable indeed. 841 00:40:16,317 --> 00:40:18,610 - [William] In 1982, Davis made a breakthrough. 842 00:40:19,741 --> 00:40:21,643 He discovered that Haitian voodoo priests 843 00:40:21,643 --> 00:40:24,145 were rumored to be using a special poison 844 00:40:24,145 --> 00:40:26,438 to turn people into zombies. 845 00:40:27,489 --> 00:40:29,501 Was this the drug he was looking for? 846 00:40:30,852 --> 00:40:33,424 He decided to visit Haiti and see for himself. 847 00:40:34,896 --> 00:40:37,939 - Through a series of negotiations I was able to get 848 00:40:37,939 --> 00:40:40,892 a local priest to make this poison for me. 849 00:40:41,402 --> 00:40:43,324 I collected all the raw ingredients, 850 00:40:43,324 --> 00:40:46,268 which ranged from, you know, dried toads 851 00:40:46,268 --> 00:40:49,472 to dried fish, dried snakes, plants, 852 00:40:49,472 --> 00:40:53,776 human remains, I collected all the raw ingredients 853 00:40:53,776 --> 00:40:56,238 so I could identify them taxonomically 854 00:40:56,238 --> 00:40:59,421 all the different stages of the elaboration, 855 00:40:59,421 --> 00:41:01,323 because fundamentally the ingredients 856 00:41:01,323 --> 00:41:06,028 are roasted on a grill, pounded in the mortar 857 00:41:06,028 --> 00:41:08,242 and pestle, shifted 858 00:41:09,033 --> 00:41:10,444 to create this sort of powder, 859 00:41:11,856 --> 00:41:14,579 and I brought them all back through US Customs 860 00:41:14,579 --> 00:41:16,220 and it was kind of amusing because I 861 00:41:17,942 --> 00:41:21,797 came through the first day on Easter Sunday 1982, 862 00:41:22,628 --> 00:41:25,310 Kennedy Airport and I had no permits whatsoever 863 00:41:25,310 --> 00:41:29,484 and I had this suitcase made of surplus 7-Up cans 864 00:41:29,835 --> 00:41:31,296 that had been printed in Saudi Arabia 865 00:41:31,296 --> 00:41:32,858 because you could see the arabic script 866 00:41:32,858 --> 00:41:35,831 and it was filled to the gunnels with all these ingredients, 867 00:41:36,101 --> 00:41:37,883 including human remains, a human skull, 868 00:41:37,883 --> 00:41:40,986 I had a live bufo marinus toad, the biggest toad, 869 00:41:40,986 --> 00:41:44,069 you know, this big, in my backpack 870 00:41:44,069 --> 00:41:46,942 and no permits whatsoever. 871 00:41:47,352 --> 00:41:50,956 And I open this up and the Customs guy 872 00:41:50,956 --> 00:41:53,819 in New York just slammed it shut 873 00:41:53,819 --> 00:41:58,824 and he said, and I quote, "Look, it's Easter (bleep) Sunday, 874 00:41:59,645 --> 00:42:02,768 "I don't know who the (bleep) you are, I didn't even 875 00:42:02,768 --> 00:42:05,110 "want to have to work today, just get the (bleep) 876 00:42:05,110 --> 00:42:06,361 "out of here." 877 00:42:08,774 --> 00:42:10,536 - [William] Back in the US Davis takes the poison 878 00:42:10,536 --> 00:42:11,787 to be tested in a lab. 879 00:42:13,358 --> 00:42:15,651 He finds something extraordinary. 880 00:42:17,382 --> 00:42:20,996 It contains a chemical more deadly than cyanide. 881 00:42:22,327 --> 00:42:26,593 Tetrodotoxin acts by physically blocking nerves 882 00:42:26,593 --> 00:42:28,835 but it brings on a state of apparent death 883 00:42:28,835 --> 00:42:31,457 so profound that it has, many times, 884 00:42:31,457 --> 00:42:32,548 fooled physicians. 885 00:42:33,359 --> 00:42:35,381 - [William] Had the Haitian priests discovered 886 00:42:35,381 --> 00:42:37,413 a drug that could replicate death? 887 00:42:38,625 --> 00:42:40,797 If so, where did they get it? 888 00:42:42,208 --> 00:42:44,592 - In Haiti there's this sort of famous pufferfish 889 00:42:44,592 --> 00:42:46,664 which inflates like a big porcupine. 890 00:42:48,015 --> 00:42:50,017 Without doubt, the Haitian sorcerers 891 00:42:50,017 --> 00:42:52,119 had identified a natural product 892 00:42:52,119 --> 00:42:55,222 that contained a toxin that could make 893 00:42:55,222 --> 00:42:56,304 someone appear to be dead. 894 00:42:56,304 --> 00:42:59,127 - [William] Could this powerful drug produce 895 00:42:59,127 --> 00:43:01,840 the symptoms Narcisse experienced? 896 00:43:02,430 --> 00:43:05,033 - He said he was paralyzed, he could hear 897 00:43:05,033 --> 00:43:07,756 himself pronounced dead, he could sense 898 00:43:07,756 --> 00:43:09,878 the sheet pulled over his eyes, 899 00:43:09,878 --> 00:43:11,840 he heard his sister begin to wail, 900 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,151 but he could not respond. 901 00:43:14,703 --> 00:43:16,755 - [William] Was an innocent man turned into a zombie? 902 00:43:20,448 --> 00:43:22,621 The evidence seems undeniable, 903 00:43:23,672 --> 00:43:25,043 except for one thing. 904 00:43:26,134 --> 00:43:29,127 - No one knows if Narcisse was administered the poison. 905 00:43:29,858 --> 00:43:31,720 What we do know is that he was pronounced dead 906 00:43:33,702 --> 00:43:35,084 when he turned back into the realm of the living, 907 00:43:35,084 --> 00:43:38,007 so presumably if any of this accurate, 908 00:43:38,007 --> 00:43:40,059 somehow he received the poison. 909 00:43:40,369 --> 00:43:42,672 According to what he said, the poison was rubbed 910 00:43:42,672 --> 00:43:44,674 into the skin, and this important 911 00:43:44,674 --> 00:43:48,437 because the folkloric idea that you read 912 00:43:48,437 --> 00:43:50,528 in the literature is that the poison is placed 913 00:43:50,528 --> 00:43:53,231 on a cross in the ground, the victim walks over 914 00:43:53,231 --> 00:43:55,383 and suddenly all things unravel. 915 00:43:56,014 --> 00:43:57,977 Well that's a magical idea, no doubt, 916 00:43:57,977 --> 00:44:00,239 because obviously, physiologically 917 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:01,440 no poison is going to go through 918 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:02,912 the callous feet of a peasant. 919 00:44:03,262 --> 00:44:05,184 But again, this is where you have to separate out 920 00:44:05,184 --> 00:44:07,406 what might be called the view from within 921 00:44:07,406 --> 00:44:09,058 from the view from without. 922 00:44:10,269 --> 00:44:13,272 According to Narcisse, he had the poison rubbed 923 00:44:13,272 --> 00:44:15,975 into his skin and this would be important 924 00:44:15,975 --> 00:44:18,698 because the effective way for this powder 925 00:44:18,698 --> 00:44:21,711 to be administered would be through blood. 926 00:44:25,484 --> 00:44:28,057 - All right, let's think about this for a second. 927 00:44:29,108 --> 00:44:33,192 We know that a certain set of brain alterations, 928 00:44:33,192 --> 00:44:36,596 diseases or injuries could cause 929 00:44:36,596 --> 00:44:39,120 the zombie-like symptoms you see in the movies, 930 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:40,855 that a mysterious poison 931 00:44:44,248 --> 00:44:45,550 has the power to mimic death, 932 00:44:45,550 --> 00:44:50,095 but is there any real proof that we can return 933 00:44:50,095 --> 00:44:51,127 from the dead? 934 00:44:52,258 --> 00:44:54,280 Well let me tell ya something, the living dead 935 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:59,285 are living among us, and they are in Detroit. 936 00:45:05,292 --> 00:45:06,734 At a warehouse in Detroit 937 00:45:06,734 --> 00:45:08,205 something remarkable is happening. 938 00:45:10,177 --> 00:45:15,182 Inside these containers 103 people are waiting 939 00:45:15,422 --> 00:45:17,274 to return from the dead. 940 00:45:19,406 --> 00:45:20,738 This is a cryonic center. 941 00:45:22,429 --> 00:45:24,191 The people entombed here have made 942 00:45:24,191 --> 00:45:25,322 an incredible choice. 943 00:45:28,515 --> 00:45:31,398 To have their bodies frozen after death 944 00:45:31,398 --> 00:45:33,620 with the hope that science will one day 945 00:45:33,620 --> 00:45:35,732 bring them back to life. 946 00:45:37,344 --> 00:45:40,799 Ben Best is the president of the Cryonics Institute. 947 00:45:41,689 --> 00:45:44,292 He believes not only can we survive death, 948 00:45:45,904 --> 00:45:48,646 but that the people here haven't actually died. 949 00:45:50,298 --> 00:45:52,120 - We do call them patients because we don't 950 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,632 regard them as being dead in an ultimate sense. 951 00:45:55,123 --> 00:45:58,086 I think in practice we regard it as a hospital 952 00:45:58,086 --> 00:45:59,869 because I think that's what we're doing. 953 00:45:59,869 --> 00:46:02,842 We're holding this metabolically challenged patients. 954 00:46:03,993 --> 00:46:06,065 - [William] But can cryogenics work? 955 00:46:08,357 --> 00:46:10,269 It's a remarkable and controversial process. 956 00:46:12,581 --> 00:46:14,103 - Behind me are our cryostats. 957 00:46:14,103 --> 00:46:16,986 They hold liquid nitrogen which is 958 00:46:16,986 --> 00:46:20,259 at minus 196 degrees Celsius. 959 00:46:21,711 --> 00:46:24,785 Each of these cylindrical units holds six patients. 960 00:46:25,595 --> 00:46:27,717 - [William] Best believes cryogenics has changed 961 00:46:27,717 --> 00:46:29,409 our definition of death. 962 00:46:31,121 --> 00:46:34,304 Only a few decades ago, if your heart stopped 963 00:46:34,304 --> 00:46:35,175 that was it. 964 00:46:36,486 --> 00:46:39,179 - But it's just not the way we see things anymore. 965 00:46:40,490 --> 00:46:42,923 - [William] How do you keep somebody who is dead alive? 966 00:46:46,116 --> 00:46:49,810 It begins by pumping oxygen rich blood throughout the body. 967 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,123 This keeps cells alive and avoids damage caused 968 00:46:53,123 --> 00:46:57,097 by rigamortis, then the body must be cooled. 969 00:46:59,189 --> 00:47:02,422 - Well we don't just drop the patient into liquid nitrogen. 970 00:47:04,734 --> 00:47:07,287 That kind of rapid cooling would be very damaging. 971 00:47:08,118 --> 00:47:10,230 So we try to cool in a controlled manner. 972 00:47:11,121 --> 00:47:13,203 If you cool too quickly then you get, 973 00:47:13,203 --> 00:47:15,515 you get too much cracking. 974 00:47:16,907 --> 00:47:19,549 We can't prevent cracking entirely, 975 00:47:19,549 --> 00:47:23,486 but certainly if you just drop the patient directly 976 00:47:23,486 --> 00:47:25,688 into the liquid nitrogen there'd be a lot 977 00:47:25,688 --> 00:47:27,080 of cracking and shattering. 978 00:47:27,510 --> 00:47:29,232 What we want to do is we want to cool 979 00:47:29,232 --> 00:47:33,276 as quickly as possible while the cryoprotectant, 980 00:47:33,276 --> 00:47:37,050 the medical grade antifreeze is still in a liquidy state. 981 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,143 And then when it solidifies, we want to cool 982 00:47:40,143 --> 00:47:44,227 very slowly because while it's in liquid state 983 00:47:44,227 --> 00:47:46,369 the idea, you want it, the colder the better, 984 00:47:46,369 --> 00:47:50,533 but when it becomes a solid if you cool too quickly 985 00:47:50,533 --> 00:47:52,165 you create thermal stress. 986 00:47:54,197 --> 00:47:56,359 - [William] The body temperature is slowly lowered, 987 00:47:56,359 --> 00:47:57,690 first by an ice bath, 988 00:47:59,562 --> 00:48:02,005 and then in a cooling chamber where it will reach 989 00:48:02,005 --> 00:48:04,177 minus 196 degrees. 990 00:48:04,948 --> 00:48:07,690 Best believes this will preserve these bodies 991 00:48:07,690 --> 00:48:11,564 for hundreds or perhaps thousands of years. 992 00:48:13,897 --> 00:48:15,148 But why? 993 00:48:16,079 --> 00:48:17,440 - It seems to me if you're preserving 994 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,423 all the material there, some future technology 995 00:48:20,423 --> 00:48:23,126 is going to be able to figure out a way to get 996 00:48:23,126 --> 00:48:26,039 that all fixed and going again. 997 00:48:28,231 --> 00:48:30,473 It's reasonable to think that nanomachines 998 00:48:30,473 --> 00:48:33,766 can restore a person to their original condition. 999 00:48:34,717 --> 00:48:36,239 - [William] Nanomachines already exist. 1000 00:48:37,530 --> 00:48:39,892 Tiny machines smaller than a single cell. 1001 00:48:40,603 --> 00:48:42,145 Scientists believe they could soon flow through 1002 00:48:42,145 --> 00:48:44,647 our blood stream targeting viruses, 1003 00:48:44,647 --> 00:48:47,360 repairing organs and destroying disease. 1004 00:48:49,252 --> 00:48:52,005 Can cryogenics give us life after death? 1005 00:48:52,835 --> 00:48:55,008 Could it even conquer death itself? 1006 00:48:56,019 --> 00:48:59,772 Best believes it is our greatest hope for eternal living. 1007 00:49:00,383 --> 00:49:02,905 - It doesn't seem so much more unreasonable 1008 00:49:02,905 --> 00:49:04,629 than to speculate that people will someday 1009 00:49:04,629 --> 00:49:05,981 live on Mars. 1010 00:49:09,014 --> 00:49:12,317 - [William] Can we die and wake up a thousand years 1011 00:49:12,317 --> 00:49:14,449 later and resume our lives? 1012 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,033 And if we can, would we really want to? 1013 00:49:19,004 --> 00:49:21,286 Or do we return as zombies, 1014 00:49:21,286 --> 00:49:24,359 doomed to a mindless existence? 1015 00:49:25,410 --> 00:49:29,204 Is life after death really life at all? 1016 00:49:31,096 --> 00:49:33,371 Weird or What? 1017 00:49:45,254 --> 00:49:46,185 So there we have it. 1018 00:49:47,356 --> 00:49:49,788 Stories of life after death from all over the world. 1019 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,662 In Connecticut a man is overcome with emotion 1020 00:49:53,662 --> 00:49:55,174 at a Civil War battlefield. 1021 00:49:56,785 --> 00:49:59,598 Is he the reincarnation of a dead general? 1022 00:50:02,271 --> 00:50:04,413 In England, scientists conduct a remarkable 1023 00:50:04,413 --> 00:50:06,065 paranormal experiment. 1024 00:50:07,776 --> 00:50:10,709 Did they find the first proof of the afterlife? 1025 00:50:12,801 --> 00:50:15,684 And in Haiti, a man returns from the grave 1026 00:50:15,684 --> 00:50:17,836 18 years after his death. 1027 00:50:19,248 --> 00:50:21,600 Are the living dead walking amongst us? 1028 00:50:22,271 --> 00:50:24,443 Do zombies exist? 1029 00:50:25,654 --> 00:50:28,967 Are these stories evidence of life after death? 1030 00:50:29,758 --> 00:50:32,631 Can we dismiss those who claim they are true? 1031 00:50:33,982 --> 00:50:35,074 You decide. 1032 00:50:35,384 --> 00:50:37,206 Join me again next time for more stories 1033 00:50:37,206 --> 00:50:40,466 that will undoubtedly be Weird or 1034 00:50:41,257 --> 00:50:42,248 What? 1035 00:50:49,165 --> 00:50:53,199 (spooky music) 79656

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