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WILLIAM SHATNER: You know,
I've been around for a while.
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Met some interesting people,
done some crazy things.
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So you just might think
that there's not much that
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can take me by surprise.
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You'd be wrong.
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The world is full of
stories and science and
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things that amaze and
confound me every single day,
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incredible mysteries that
keep me awake at night.
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Some I can answer.
Others just defy logic.
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[♪]
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NARRATOR: Is there
life after death?
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In Connecticut, a man visits
a Civil War battlefield
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where he is suddenly
overcome with emotion.
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JEFFREY KEENE: To this day
I don't understand what
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exactly happened.
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NARRATOR: Is he the
reincarnation
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of a dead general?
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In Haiti, eighteen
years after his death,
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a man returns from the grave.
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WADE DAVIS: This
individual had clearly
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been pronounced
dead by the doctors.
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NARRATOR: Do zombies
really exist?
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And in a remarkable
experiment, scientists in
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England conduct a series
of groundbreaking séances.
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Is it our first genuine
proof of the afterlife?
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WILLIAM SHATNER: Yeah,
it's a weird world.
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And I love it.
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[♪]
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WILLIAM SHATNER: Death.
Not exactly pretty,
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especially when you
consider that one day
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all of us could end
up looking like this.
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But should we simply
accept this as our fate
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or is there something
else that awaits us?
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Since the dawn of time,
humans have been obsessed
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with the idea that there's
something more than -
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this.
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Well, is there?
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Do our lives go
on, even if we die?
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Can we return and
communicate with our
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loved ones here on earth?
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Is there life after life
and, perhaps the most
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important question of
all, can we prove it?
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Well just maybe we can.
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NARRATOR: Jeffrey Keene
is a retired firefighter.
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In 1990, he decided to
visit the site of the
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famous battle of Antietam,
one of the bloodiest
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encounters of the Civil
War...
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and a place where thousands
died in just one day.
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JEFFREY KEENE: I was
traveling down through
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Pennsylvania with my
wife, antique hunting,
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and I asked my wife if it
was okay if we took a little
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side trip over to Antietam
to see the battlefield.
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NARRATOR: But what begins
as a fun day out will soon
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turn into a nightmare.
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JEFFREY KEENE: My wife
wasn't very much into
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history so she remained in
the car and I walked over to
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where the battle had taken
place at the Sunken Road,
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gone about fifty feet
when it became very
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hard to breathe.
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I started crying, I was
very angry, I was very sad.
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If you take the saddest
you've ever been and magnify
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that by about a thousand
times, that gets close.
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I was exhausted.
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I couldn't tell exactly
what was going on.
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I thought I was maybe
having a heart attack but
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I didn't have any pain.
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NARRATOR: Overcome by a
wave of violent emotions,
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Jeffrey then has a powerful
urge to visit the gift shop.
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JEFFREY KEENE: I felt
compelled to go there.
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I threw a magazine
on the counter.
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I said I want this and it
was a Civil War quarterly
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magazine on Antietam.
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To this day I don't understand
what exactly happened.
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NARRATOR: For the next
eighteen months, Jeffrey's
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life returns to normal -
until one night when he
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attends a Halloween party.
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JEFFREY KEENE: It was
a really nice party.
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They had spent a lot of
money on the decorations.
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They had hired
a, a palm reader.
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And I sat down in front of
this woman and she took my
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hands and I told her the story
of what happened at Antietam.
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NARRATOR: As Jeff tells
his story, the palm reader
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suddenly becomes uneasy.
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JEFFREY KEENE: And she's
sitting there shaking her
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head and she dropped
my hands a few times.
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NARRATOR: And then she
drops a bombshell.
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She believes Jeffrey was at
Antietam in a previous life.
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JEFFREY KEENE: She said
you died there but you
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hung around for
a long time.
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I said just let me
ask you one question.
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Are you sure he was dead?
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She said he was
full of holes.
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That's one thing I'll,
I'll never forget.
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NARRATOR: The bizarre
encounter will lead
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Jeffrey on a journey in
search of the truth.
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JEFFREY KEENE: The next
day I took my wife to work
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and I remembered the
magazine that I had to have.
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I had it for a year and a
half and hadn't read it.
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I opened it up to the
section on Antietam, where
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I'd had the experience and
my eyes skimmed down the
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page and I see a, a
photograph of a general.
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NARRATOR: As Jeffrey
stares at the photo he is
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stunned by what he sees.
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JEFFREY KEENE: I look over
and this picture says
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General John B. Gordon
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and when I see the
face uh I tell people
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I know the face very well.
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I shave it every morning.
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And unless you're
unfeeling, unthinking,
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completely drained
of any type of emotion,
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it's gonna have a bit of
an effect on you, even if
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it's just awe and wonder.
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NARRATOR: Remarkably,
Jeffrey is a double for
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General John B. Gordon.
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But as he reads on,
things get even weirder.
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JEFFREY KEENE: I read
in the story he'd been
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wounded five times that
day, was shot through the
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face and I figured he had
probably been killed there.
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NARRATOR:
John B. Gordon was
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a general of the
Sixth Alabama Regiment -
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a hero who was shot in the
bloody battle of Antietam.
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Could there be a link
between Jeffrey and a
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general who had died nearly
two hundred years before him?
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Suddenly, Jeffrey makes
another startling connection.
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JEFFREY KEENE: It was on
my thirtieth birthday.
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At twelve midnight I got such
a horrendous pain in my jaw.
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It radiated down
into my neck.
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I know what it feels like
to be shot through the face.
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That's how bad it hurt.
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NARRATOR: Was Jeffrey's
mysterious pain somehow
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related to General
Gordon's injuries?
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JEFFREY KEENE: Gordon was
thirty years old when he
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was shot through
the face, same age.
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NARRATOR: Could all these
remarkable similarities be
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explained by coincidence?
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Jeffrey believes there
is only one answer.
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JEFFREY KEENE: I don't
need any more proof that
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there's reincarnation
because of all the things
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that happened to me.
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We never die. We're continuous.
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We always have been,
we always will be.
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That's how Gordon
found me, at Antietam.
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WILLIAM SHATNER: What
an extraordinary story.
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Did a Civil War general
who died over a century
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ago reincarnate, jump into
Jeffrey Keene's body and
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continue his life
through Jeffrey's eyes?
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Are we all in a continuous
cycle of birth and rebirth,
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simply interchanging
bodies as we go?
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And if so, this raises
yet another question -
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do we get to choose?
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I mean who was I before
I was who I am now?
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And who will I be
next? Could I be you?
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Now that is definitely
weird - or what?
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NARRATOR: Dr.
Cynthia Meyersburg is
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a Harvard psychologist.
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She believes reincarnation
is simply a function of
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how we deal with memories.
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CYNTHIA MEYERSBURG: Something
odd happens and people
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go looking, as we all do, to
make sense of their lives.
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If you have a rich
imaginative ability it
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becomes very difficult
to distinguish between
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something that's a record
of perception and a record
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of imagination.
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Did I dream that
or did it happen?
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Did I hear about that or did
I actually experience that?
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It can be very difficult.
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NARRATOR: Cynthia believes
that one way we do this is
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by creating
false memories.
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CYNTHIA MEYERSBURG:
False memories are
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what they sound like.
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They're recollections for
either events that didn't
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take place or didn't take
place in the way in which
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they're remembered.
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NARRATOR: Are people like
Jeffrey just making
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their stories up?
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If so, why?
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CYNTHIA MEYERSBURG:
Memory, although it feels
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a lot of times like we're
watching a film in our
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mind's eye, that's not
what's really happening.
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We're always
reconstructing it from
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little pieces that we have
saved in a sense and we
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put it back together.
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And our brain fills in
for us the missing parts.
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NARRATOR: Researchers have
been able to study
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this phenomenon.
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CYNTHIA MEYERSBURG: It's
possible to induce false
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memories, in a
matter of moments.
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For instance, if someone
sees a doctored photograph
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showing him or her as a
child in a hot air balloon
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people can very quickly
form memories for it.
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NARRATOR: Can Jeffrey
Keene's claim of
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reincarnation be dismissed
as a series of false memories?
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Does it explain
what struck him down?
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CYNTHIA MEYERSBURG: People
come to believe they have
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past lives because
something weird happens,
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something that's outside
of the norm in some way
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for them, that they need
an explanation for.
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NARRATOR: Is reincarnation
real or simply a product
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of our minds?
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Do we all have past,
present and future lives?
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STUART HAMEROFF: We know
so little about the nature
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of reality that I think
it would be very, very
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foolish to say that
this cannot happen.
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NARRATOR: An emotional
collapse at a Civil War
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battleground leads a man
to believe he is the
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reincarnation of
a dead general.
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Is it possible we
all have past lives?
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Tariq Sattaur is a
facilitator at the
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Ontario Hypnosis Centre.
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He not only believes
reincarnation is real, he can
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demonstrate it using a process
called past life regression.
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TARIQ SATTAUR: Past-life
regression is a series of
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steps that you go through
in order to access
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memories from
previous lifetimes.
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It is allowing the
conscious mind to be put
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aside for a while as you
access the subconscious mind.
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TARIQ: Begin by just lightly
closing your eyes now.
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NARRATOR: Tariq is
preparing a patient, Karen,
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to travel back - not
only deep into her own
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past but to lives she
may have lived before,
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and from where he can
access her memories.
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TARIQ: Imagine if you will
above your head is a point
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of absolutely
pure white light.
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TARIQ SATTAUR: It starts
by first taking the client
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back through age
regression and typically
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it's about fourteen or
fifteen years old and then
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to three or
four years old.
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KAREN: I'm on my
mum's lap and I'm getting
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all of her attention.
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NARRATOR: Karen has now
gone back over thirty years.
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The next step will take
her into what is known as
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blue mist, a space in
between her current life
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and the one she
lived before.
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TARIQ: Take a deep breath now
and go beyond the blue mist,
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finding yourself at
a still earlier time.
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NARRATOR: Incredibly, it
appears Karen has now
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entered a former life.
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KAREN: I'm climbing rocks
and there's the forest nearby.
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TARIQ: Are you
male or female?
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KAREN: I'm male.
I think I'm hunting.
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TARIQ: Okay.
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what Karen is seeing is real.
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TARIQ SATTAUR:
They're interacting.
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They're in the body
of that past life.
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They can see out of
that person's eyes.
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the session, Tariq must
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reverse the process and
bring Karen back into her
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current life
and present age.
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TARIQ: And one. Eyes open.
You're back.
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NARRATOR: Did Karen actually
visit her former life?
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Is past life regression
evidence that
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reincarnation is real?
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Dr. Stuart Hameroff
is a scientist.
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He believes the only way
to find real proof of
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reincarnation is
by using science.
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STUART HAMEROFF: There's a
lot of anecdotal evidence
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for apparent reincarnation
but it's been dismissed
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because it seems
irrational.
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possible explanation,
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so I think all this evidence
needs to be reevaluated
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and considered seriously.
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NARRATOR: Hameroff's theory
concerns one of the greatest
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mysteries of both religion
and science - the soul.
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STUART HAMEROFF: I
think the soul is our
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consciousness, the sum
total of our memories and
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conscious awareness and I
think it can exist outside
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the body, after life and
possibly in reincarnation.
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remarkable is that
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Hameroff thinks the soul
exists as a series of
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information,
quantifiable by physics.
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STUART HAMEROFF: I think
a quantum version of
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consciousness can give
rise to something like a
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quantum soul that can
account for a lot of these
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anecdotal stories that we've
been hearing for, for eons.
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believe consciousness
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exists with cells in the
brain, but Hameroff thinks
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it exists on a subatomic
level in quantum particles
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that can stay connected
and survive death.
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STUART HAMEROFF: When a
patient has a cardiac
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arrest and is
resuscitated, they often
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tell a story of a white
light, a tunnel and in
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many cases floating above
their body looking down on
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what's going on.
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consciousness as quantum
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information dissipating.
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When the patient's
resuscitated the quantum
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information goes back and
the patient wakes up and
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reports having had a
near-death experience
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and perhaps even an
out-of-body experience.
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NARRATOR: It's an
incredible theory,
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but if our souls do
exist in quantum form
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how are they reincarnated?
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STUART HAMEROFF: It's
conceivable that this
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quantum information, the
quantum soul if you will,
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could reenter an embryo,
which would be reincarnation.
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NARRATOR: Do our souls
consist of information
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that can travel,
even into an embryo?
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Have we solved one
of the greatest mysteries
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in the universe?
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STUART HAMEROFF: We know
so little about the nature
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of reality that I think
it would be very, very
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foolish to say that
this cannot happen.
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NARRATOR: Was Jeffrey
Keene the reincarnation of
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a long-dead general?
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Or did false memories
convince him it was true?
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Does the soul exist
independent of our bodies?
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Can we visit past lives and if
we can, what will we find?
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Weird or what?
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NARRATOR: Scientists in
England conduct a series
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of groundbreaking
experiments.
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Did they find the first
genuine proof of the afterlife?
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WILLIAM SHATNER: Hello? Hello?
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I don't know about you but
I've always been scared of
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things that go bump
in the night.
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[crash, meow]
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Fred!
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[meow]
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Most of them we can
explain but what about
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those we can't?
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Are we surrounded by
spiritual entities,
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the remains of those that
passed from this life?
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Are they what
we call ghosts?
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And, if they are there,
are they friendly?
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And can we
communicate with them?
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[crash, meow]
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Fred!
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[sigh]
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NARRATOR: In 1993, a team
of researchers in the town
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of Scole, United
Kingdom set out to find
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indisputable evidence
of life after death.
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Conducting a series of
extraordinary séances, they
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witnessed paranormal events
that would mystify science.
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They called it the
Scole Experiment.
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ROBIN FOY: What we didn't
know was that it was going
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to become very, very
special and work in a
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pioneering way to provide
proof of life after death.
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NARRATOR: Robin Foy
led the séances.
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He believes the experiment
was unique because of
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their attempts to make
sure it was credible.
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ROBIN FOY: It was
important for us to show
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to the outside world that
we'd taken every security
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precaution that we could
to ensure that the work
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was fraud proof.
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NARRATOR: To conquer the
skeptics, the séances were
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held in the supposedly
impenetrable cellar of
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a suburban house.
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ROBIN FOY: The whole place
was brick, there were no
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trapdoors and the only
door into the cellar was
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locked internally.
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Each one of us would wear
luminous armbands so that
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everybody who was present
could see that no one moved.
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We were using a, a table
which was actually
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fraud proof so that nobody
could get under it and do
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anything at all.
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We were seeking to
actually get viable proof
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that we live on
after we die.
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NARRATOR: The Scole
Experiment began in
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November 1993.
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As Robin Foy and his team
assembled in their cellar,
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they had no idea
what might happen.
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But it didn't take
long to find out.
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ROBIN FOY: After a short
while, the spirit lights come,
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little lights about
the size of a pea or
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slightly larger,
very bright.
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perform aerobatics.
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Later on there were spirit
voices speaking from midair.
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We were able to hear on a
one-to-one basis all of
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the spirit people.
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Everybody in that room
would be regularly touched
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by spirit hands.
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experiment continues,
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the team is amazed as
the paranormal activity
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becomes more intense.
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ROBIN FOY: All sorts of
different things would
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materialize in midair and
then fall down onto the
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table and we would hear the
bang as that hit the table.
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We may actually have solid
spirit personalities
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moving around in the room.
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We were pushing the bounds
of psychic research
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further forward than
anyone had been able to
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produce or witness
anywhere in the past.
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NARRATOR: Encouraged by
the success, Foy decided to
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try something extraordinary,
something that would
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prove they had made
contact with the afterlife.
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ROBIN FOY: We were doing
an experiment with a film
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that was still in its
plastic container.
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We would have this locked
into a security box to
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ensure that nothing was
ever done by us to that film.
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NARRATOR: It was a
remarkable and ambitious idea.
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The team hoped a spirit
might somehow implant an
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image on the film
inside the box.
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If so, it could be the
proof they were looking for.
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When they finally checked
the film, they couldn't
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believe their eyes.
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ROBIN FOY: That
was quite amazing.
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We had hundreds of
photographs that were
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produced to show us
various aspects of the
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spirit world itself.
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Some of them were so
fantastic they really
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would knock
your socks off.
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NARRATOR: But there was
one photograph that was
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different from the rest -
a haunting image of
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what seemed to be a
woman's face.
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ROBIN FOY: You actually
see on this one areas
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of this person's face.
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NARRATOR: Who
is the woman?
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And how did her image
appear on the film?
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Foy believes this chilling
incident makes the
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Scole Experiment the
definitive exploration into
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the presence of the afterlife.
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ROBIN FOY: The Scole
Experiment I think was
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very, very important
because it went further
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than anybody had ever
been able to go before in
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proving the real existence
of life after death.
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NARRATOR: Despite his
claims, many skeptics
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doubted the results.
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Did Robin Foy and his
team of researchers make
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contact with
the other side?
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Is the Scole experiment
proof that there is
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life after death?
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Or could it have been
an elaborate fake?
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One way to find out is
to try it for ourselves.
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MAN: Ahhh!
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NARRATOR: A UK research
team experiences
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a remarkable series of
paranormal events during
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a series of séances.
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Did they find proof
of life after death?
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Brian Dunning is a
scientific journalist.
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He believes the events of
Scole were nothing more
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than an illusion.
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BRIAN DUNNING: Here's the
problem with séances is
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that séances have existed
as a magic trick for
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two hundred years.
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They are an illusionist
giving the impression that
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spirits are in the room.
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ILLUSIONIST: What we are
trying to recreate are the
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famous Scole Experiments.
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NARRATOR: Was the Scole
Experiment a magic trick?
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To test Dunning's theory,
we've set up a fake séance
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using a professional
illusionist.
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To create the conditions
at Scole, the participants
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are sitting in
pitch darkness.
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Using night vision
cameras, we can see them
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but they can see
nothing at all.
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The session begins with
everyone holding hands.
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ILLUSIONIST: Give me your
hand here and your hand here.
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Please do not break the
psychic circle at any time
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during the séance.
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Spirits, are you
with us tonight?
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NARRATOR: The Scole
experiment claimed that
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spirit voices seemed
to come from midair.
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The illusionist will
attempt to recreate them
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with an assistant using a
cardboard tube as a megaphone.
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ILLUSIONIST: Speak to us.
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VOICE: She will
always love you.
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WOMAN: Whoa!
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NARRATOR: Faking disembodied
voices seems simple.
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VOICE: Charles.
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ILLUSIONIST: Charles,
the name Charles.
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NARRATOR: But can
they convince these
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participants they are
being physically touched
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by spirits as claimed
by the people at Scole?
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ILLUSIONIST: I'm going to
ask my spirit guide Francine,
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will you give us a
physical manifestation?
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I want Francine to come towards
the centre of the table.
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WOMAN: Whoa.
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ILLUSIONIST: Whoa what?
What happened?
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WOMAN: I think
someone touched me.
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Ahhh!
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ILLUSIONIST:
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
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NARRATOR: The final trick
centers around the claim
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that objects materialized
out of thin air.
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Is this so easy to
disprove?
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ILLUSIONIST: Leave
us now! Leave us!
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GROUP: Ahhhh!
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NARRATOR: The
experiment is over.
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Even though his séance
was badly faked,
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the participants are
left visibly shaken.
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BRIAN DUNNING:
Nobody's laughing.
486
00:25:34,767 --> 00:25:35,967
Everybody took that
completely seriously.
487
00:25:36,100 --> 00:25:38,834
That was a very powerful
experience for these people.
488
00:25:38,967 --> 00:25:41,166
NARRATOR: Although the
participants were fooled,
489
00:25:41,300 --> 00:25:45,633
Brain believes this proves the
Scole experiment was a hoax.
490
00:25:45,767 --> 00:25:46,967
BRIAN DUNNING: We saw a
few of the things today
491
00:25:47,100 --> 00:25:48,567
that were reported from
the Scole Experiments.
492
00:25:48,700 --> 00:25:52,166
We've seen that those
can be easily faked.
493
00:25:52,300 --> 00:25:54,033
Do we know that they
faked them at Scole?
494
00:25:54,166 --> 00:25:56,000
No, of course not because
no controls were applied.
495
00:25:56,133 --> 00:25:59,000
We don't know what
actually happened.
496
00:25:59,133 --> 00:26:01,233
But when we see how easy
it is to fake it, how can
497
00:26:01,367 --> 00:26:03,333
we know that these
could have been real?
498
00:26:03,467 --> 00:26:05,300
WILLIAM SHATNER: Could the
greatest experiment into
499
00:26:05,433 --> 00:26:07,567
the existence of the
afterlife be just an
500
00:26:07,700 --> 00:26:08,834
illusionist's game?
501
00:26:08,967 --> 00:26:14,867
No doubt magic tricks are
easy to perform and many
502
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,633
of the claims made at
Scole have been dismissed
503
00:26:17,767 --> 00:26:22,533
out of hand but the
biggest mystery of all
504
00:26:22,667 --> 00:26:27,333
still remains unanswered.
505
00:26:27,467 --> 00:26:30,934
Who is this woman and how
did her image appear on
506
00:26:31,066 --> 00:26:33,033
a roll of film that was
locked inside a box?
507
00:26:33,166 --> 00:26:37,300
Even Houdini would have
trouble with that one.
508
00:26:38,900 --> 00:26:42,633
NARRATOR: Peter Sramek
is a photography expert.
509
00:26:42,767 --> 00:26:46,300
We asked him to examine images
from the Scole experiment
510
00:26:46,433 --> 00:26:50,233
and try to unlock one
of its biggest mysteries.
511
00:26:50,367 --> 00:26:53,834
PETER SRAMEK: As I
understand it, the uh film
512
00:26:53,967 --> 00:26:57,333
was put into this box
and locked away and the
513
00:26:57,467 --> 00:27:00,066
exposure, the effect on
the film was supposed to
514
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:05,433
have happened while the film
was locked up in this box.
515
00:27:05,567 --> 00:27:07,900
My first reaction was
this is an interesting
516
00:27:08,033 --> 00:27:09,266
manipulation.
517
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,133
I assumed it was something
that would have been done
518
00:27:11,266 --> 00:27:12,367
in the dark room.
519
00:27:12,500 --> 00:27:14,300
It looks very similar to
the kinds of distortions,
520
00:27:14,433 --> 00:27:19,467
collages, manipulations
that people have done in
521
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,133
the darkroom because
it's fun to do.
522
00:27:22,266 --> 00:27:23,333
NARRATOR: But there was
no darkroom at Scole.
523
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,734
Was this photograph created
by the spirit of a woman?
524
00:27:29,867 --> 00:27:32,200
Peter believes the answer
to the mystery lies in the
525
00:27:32,333 --> 00:27:34,300
type of film they used.
526
00:27:34,433 --> 00:27:35,700
PETER SRAMEK: With
Polaroid you have the
527
00:27:35,834 --> 00:27:38,433
direct development so there's
no darkroom involved.
528
00:27:38,567 --> 00:27:40,700
When you process it, you
actually put it into a
529
00:27:40,834 --> 00:27:45,066
container that is full of
a gelatinous chemical
530
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,834
that gets spread on to
the film evenly.
531
00:27:47,967 --> 00:27:51,400
And that, in my mind, is what's
happened in these photographs.
532
00:27:51,533 --> 00:27:53,400
All you're seeing are the
chemicals, the way that
533
00:27:53,533 --> 00:27:57,533
they've affected the film
as it's gone through.
534
00:27:57,667 --> 00:27:59,166
PETER SRAMEK: What is
harder to explain are the
535
00:27:59,300 --> 00:28:00,800
actual faces
in the images.
536
00:28:00,934 --> 00:28:03,367
They're not light effects,
they're not chemical effects.
537
00:28:03,500 --> 00:28:08,000
They actually are, you
know, images of faces.
538
00:28:08,133 --> 00:28:11,333
NARRATOR: So how was this
haunting image created?
539
00:28:11,467 --> 00:28:13,266
PETER SRAMEK: My
explanation for that would
540
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,567
be that the film has been
tampered with and the film
541
00:28:16,700 --> 00:28:19,867
has been put through the
camera and these faces have
542
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:24,767
been exposed into it, prior
to the supposed experiment.
543
00:28:24,900 --> 00:28:27,867
NARRATOR: Peter believes he
has solved the mystery, but
544
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:32,433
what if the Scole researchers
were telling the truth?
545
00:28:32,567 --> 00:28:33,767
PETER SRAMEK: I don't
think while the film was
546
00:28:33,900 --> 00:28:36,500
in the box that any of the
effects that we're seeing
547
00:28:36,633 --> 00:28:40,800
could have been created
unless one believes in
548
00:28:40,934 --> 00:28:43,834
some sort of supernatural
explanation.
549
00:28:43,967 --> 00:28:47,233
NARRATOR: Is this a woman
from the spirit world?
550
00:28:47,367 --> 00:28:51,100
Did Robin Foy and his
research team find proof
551
00:28:51,233 --> 00:28:53,500
of life after
death at Scole?
552
00:28:54,767 --> 00:28:57,000
Or was it an
ingenious hoax?
553
00:29:00,767 --> 00:29:05,467
Whatever the truth is,
this is - weird or what?
554
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:12,800
[♪]
555
00:29:12,934 --> 00:29:15,367
In Haiti, a man dies
after a sudden and
556
00:29:15,500 --> 00:29:18,567
mysterious illness.
557
00:29:18,700 --> 00:29:23,000
Eighteen years later, he
returns from the grave.
558
00:29:23,133 --> 00:29:26,200
Could this prove
that zombies exist?
559
00:29:36,333 --> 00:29:38,400
WILLIAM SHATNER: When it
comes to the mysteries of
560
00:29:38,533 --> 00:29:42,934
the afterlife, perhaps
there's nothing weirder
561
00:29:43,066 --> 00:29:45,333
than zombies.
562
00:29:45,467 --> 00:29:47,767
The dictionary describes a
zombie like this: the body
563
00:29:47,900 --> 00:29:51,200
of a dead person given the
semblance of life but made
564
00:29:51,333 --> 00:29:54,033
mute and will-less by
a supernatural force,
565
00:29:54,166 --> 00:29:56,633
usually for some
evil purpose.
566
00:29:56,767 --> 00:30:00,834
Sounds like my bank manager,
but could it be true?
567
00:30:00,967 --> 00:30:06,166
Could mindless shuffling
cannibals actually exist -
568
00:30:06,300 --> 00:30:08,266
outside of Hollywood?
569
00:30:10,033 --> 00:30:11,467
NARRATOR: The tiny nation
of Haiti is home to many
570
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:16,133
mysteries, but none
weirder than the tale of
571
00:30:16,266 --> 00:30:19,900
a man named Clairvius
Narcisse.
572
00:30:20,033 --> 00:30:23,734
Wade Davis is an
explorer and author.
573
00:30:23,867 --> 00:30:27,000
He investigated the case,
which began in 1962 when
574
00:30:27,133 --> 00:30:31,200
Narcisse suddenly
became violently ill.
575
00:30:31,333 --> 00:30:33,233
WADE DAVIS: I mean the
kind of the constellation
576
00:30:33,367 --> 00:30:36,100
of symptoms that he
reported were so strange
577
00:30:36,233 --> 00:30:38,667
that you initially thought
this had to be coming
578
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,600
from the realm of
science fiction.
579
00:30:40,734 --> 00:30:43,533
NARRATOR: Although doctors
work feverishly,
580
00:30:43,667 --> 00:30:47,500
it's too late to save
the stricken Narcisse.
581
00:30:49,133 --> 00:30:50,400
WADE DAVIS: The death was
witnessed by both the
582
00:30:50,533 --> 00:30:53,467
physicians, the nurses and
his own family members and
583
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:54,867
his sister had
actually affixed her,
584
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:59,266
her thumbprint to the death
certificate, verifying
585
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,400
that this was her brother,
her brother had died.
586
00:31:02,533 --> 00:31:05,066
NARRATOR: Devastated,
family members say their
587
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:11,300
final goodbyes and Clairvius
is finally laid to rest.
588
00:31:11,433 --> 00:31:13,333
WADE DAVIS: You could go
to his gravesite where the
589
00:31:13,467 --> 00:31:16,567
slab of cement had been
placed upon his grave
590
00:31:16,700 --> 00:31:19,500
shortly after his demise.
591
00:31:21,033 --> 00:31:21,834
NARRATOR: It should have
been the last anyone heard
592
00:31:21,967 --> 00:31:23,233
of Clairvius Narcisse.
593
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,800
But eighteen years later,
something incredible will
594
00:31:27,934 --> 00:31:32,567
happen that ensures no
one forgets his name.
595
00:31:34,533 --> 00:31:36,800
NARRATOR: In 1980,
Clairvius' sister is going
596
00:31:36,934 --> 00:31:41,000
about daily chores in
her family's village.
597
00:31:41,133 --> 00:31:45,066
Suddenly, she sees
something beyond comprehension.
598
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,767
Standing before her is
her deceased brother.
599
00:31:49,900 --> 00:31:54,066
Clairvius Narcisse has
risen ... from the dead.
600
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:55,600
WADE DAVIS: He claimed
that he was buried.
601
00:31:55,734 --> 00:31:58,033
He claimed that he was
magically resuscitated by
602
00:31:58,166 --> 00:32:00,367
a sorcerer and then led
off to the north of the
603
00:32:00,500 --> 00:32:03,000
country where he'd been
working as a sort of
604
00:32:03,133 --> 00:32:05,300
a zombie slave for
eighteen years.
605
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,500
NARRATOR: Did Clairvius
Narcisse return from the dead -
606
00:32:10,633 --> 00:32:12,166
a zombie?
607
00:32:12,300 --> 00:32:14,266
WADE DAVIS: There was
no question that this
608
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,133
individual had clearly been
pronounced dead by the doctors.
609
00:32:18,266 --> 00:32:20,166
And then the
question became why?
610
00:32:20,300 --> 00:32:22,500
How? What happened to him?
611
00:32:22,633 --> 00:32:24,533
NARRATOR: This incredible
story attracts the
612
00:32:24,667 --> 00:32:27,367
attention of a team of
scientists who are keen to
613
00:32:27,500 --> 00:32:30,166
examine the case and
uncover the truth.
614
00:32:30,300 --> 00:32:31,500
WADE DAVIS: They
investigated all these
615
00:32:31,633 --> 00:32:33,333
lines of evidence,
analysis of the
616
00:32:33,467 --> 00:32:36,100
fingerprints by forensic
experts, the testimony of
617
00:32:36,233 --> 00:32:38,700
the family members
and the doctors.
618
00:32:38,834 --> 00:32:40,967
NARRATOR: After
months of searching,
619
00:32:41,100 --> 00:32:44,400
the investigators come to
a remarkable conclusion.
620
00:32:44,533 --> 00:32:46,934
WADE DAVIS: It really
led two very reputable
621
00:32:47,066 --> 00:32:49,233
scientists to go public
saying they had found the
622
00:32:49,367 --> 00:32:52,266
first provable
instance of a zombie.
623
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,300
NARRATOR: What did
the scientists find?
624
00:32:56,433 --> 00:32:59,333
Did Clairvius Narcisse
rise from the dead?
625
00:32:59,467 --> 00:33:03,767
Do zombies exist?
626
00:33:03,900 --> 00:33:07,000
Steven Schlozman is a
Harvard psychiatrist.
627
00:33:07,133 --> 00:33:12,867
Incredibly, he believes
the answer could be yes.
628
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,433
STEVEN SCHLOZMAN: When I
started thinking about how
629
00:33:14,567 --> 00:33:17,467
I would explain zombies
medically, it was kind of
630
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,934
a lark and then it ended
up getting a little creepy.
631
00:33:20,066 --> 00:33:25,200
The typical zombie, in my
view, is slow, shambling,
632
00:33:25,333 --> 00:33:29,033
can't figure even the
simplest of, of dilemmas out,
633
00:33:29,166 --> 00:33:31,100
wants to
eat human flesh.
634
00:33:31,233 --> 00:33:36,033
There is ways you can medically
explain the behaviour.
635
00:33:37,433 --> 00:33:39,467
NARRATOR: Remarkably,
Schlozman believes just
636
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,934
a few changes in the human
brain could turn one of
637
00:33:42,066 --> 00:33:45,567
us into one of them.
638
00:33:45,700 --> 00:33:48,700
It starts with
the cerebellum.
639
00:33:48,834 --> 00:33:50,467
STEVEN SCHLOZMAN: This is
a sheep brain but imagine
640
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:51,900
this is a human brain,
which looks an
641
00:33:52,033 --> 00:33:53,533
awful lot like this,
just, just bigger.
642
00:33:53,667 --> 00:33:55,433
The function of the
cerebellum is to help
643
00:33:55,567 --> 00:33:56,700
us maintain balance.
644
00:33:56,834 --> 00:33:58,333
In zombies, we've got
to think that there's
645
00:33:58,467 --> 00:34:00,600
something not right with
their cerebellum because
646
00:34:00,734 --> 00:34:04,266
zombies are really
not balanced well.
647
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:05,667
There's a number of
diseases that could affect
648
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,033
the cerebellum.
649
00:34:07,166 --> 00:34:10,500
In those cases, you have
exactly the shambling gait
650
00:34:10,633 --> 00:34:13,600
that you see in
the zombie movies.
651
00:34:13,734 --> 00:34:16,867
NARRATOR: The shuffling
is one thing, but what
652
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,967
explains a zombie's
mindless violence?
653
00:34:21,100 --> 00:34:22,767
STEVEN SCHLOZMAN: The
amygdala is the most
654
00:34:22,900 --> 00:34:24,567
primitive part
of the brain.
655
00:34:24,700 --> 00:34:29,600
It's the region of brain
that has very base emotions.
656
00:34:29,734 --> 00:34:33,934
NARRATOR: Our amygdala is the
source of all anger and rage.
657
00:34:34,066 --> 00:34:36,500
But it's kept in check
by our frontal lobes,
658
00:34:36,633 --> 00:34:39,600
the most advanced
part of our brain.
659
00:34:39,734 --> 00:34:40,900
STEVEN SCHLOZMAN: So we
might have an impulse when
660
00:34:41,033 --> 00:34:43,300
somebody cuts us off on
the road to yell at them,
661
00:34:43,433 --> 00:34:45,533
to tailgate them, to
do something not nice.
662
00:34:45,667 --> 00:34:49,266
The frontal lobe jumps in
and stops you from doing that.
663
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,100
When we watch zombie
movies, we can guess that
664
00:34:52,233 --> 00:34:54,367
zombie frontal lobes
are pretty much gone.
665
00:34:54,500 --> 00:34:56,433
They can't hold
back their impulses.
666
00:34:56,567 --> 00:34:58,166
NARRATOR: Could a unique
combination of brain
667
00:34:58,300 --> 00:35:01,467
injuries somehow
create a zombie?
668
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,567
There's just one problem.
669
00:35:04,700 --> 00:35:05,867
STEVEN SCHLOZMAN: The
zombie, by definition,
670
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,066
has to die and be reanimated.
671
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:09,700
There is no medical basis
for something coming back
672
00:35:09,834 --> 00:35:11,967
from the dead, so far.
673
00:35:13,467 --> 00:35:14,734
NARRATOR: But how does
Scholzman explain that
674
00:35:14,867 --> 00:35:19,333
Clairvius Narcisse was
certified dead, buried,
675
00:35:19,467 --> 00:35:21,300
then returned
from the grave?
676
00:35:21,433 --> 00:35:22,467
STEVEN SCHLOZMAN: Maybe
he's not telling the
677
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,233
truth, maybe he's
undergone some kind of
678
00:35:24,367 --> 00:35:26,033
neurologic insult that
prevents him from
679
00:35:26,166 --> 00:35:27,467
remembering what's
just happened.
680
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,667
But if we're talking about
really rising from the dead,
681
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:30,834
that doesn't happen.
682
00:35:41,834 --> 00:35:45,700
NARRATOR: A Haitian man dies
from a mysterious illness,
683
00:35:45,834 --> 00:35:48,734
then returns from the
grave eighteen years later.
684
00:35:48,867 --> 00:35:52,800
Is he proof that
zombies exist?
685
00:35:52,934 --> 00:35:55,000
Wade Davis has
investigated the case and
686
00:35:55,133 --> 00:35:57,934
has an incredible theory.
687
00:35:58,066 --> 00:36:02,367
He thinks Clairvius
Narcisse didn't die at all,
688
00:36:02,500 --> 00:36:05,934
that something made
him just seem to be dead.
689
00:36:06,066 --> 00:36:09,734
But who or what could
have fooled the doctors?
690
00:36:09,867 --> 00:36:11,667
WADE DAVIS: There are lots
of drugs that can kill.
691
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,834
But to find a drug that
brings you to the doorway
692
00:36:13,967 --> 00:36:16,734
of death and then brings
you back into the realm of
693
00:36:16,867 --> 00:36:19,867
the living would be
remarkable indeed.
694
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,967
NARRATOR: In 1982, Davis
made a breakthrough.
695
00:36:23,100 --> 00:36:25,200
He discovered that Haitian
Voodoo Priests were
696
00:36:25,333 --> 00:36:28,233
rumoured to be using a
special poison to turn
697
00:36:28,367 --> 00:36:30,500
people into zombies.
698
00:36:30,633 --> 00:36:34,000
Was this the drug
he was looking for?
699
00:36:34,133 --> 00:36:36,734
He decided to visit Haiti
and see for himself.
700
00:36:38,066 --> 00:36:40,567
WADE DAVIS: Through a
series of negotiations
701
00:36:40,700 --> 00:36:43,333
I was able to get a local
priest to make this poison
702
00:36:43,467 --> 00:36:44,667
for me.
703
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,333
I collected all the raw
ingredients, which ranged
704
00:36:47,467 --> 00:36:51,367
from, you know, dried
toads to dried fish, dried
705
00:36:51,500 --> 00:36:55,800
snakes, plants,
human remains.
706
00:36:55,934 --> 00:36:57,333
NARRATOR: Back in the US,
Davis takes the poison to
707
00:36:57,467 --> 00:36:59,934
be tested in a lab.
708
00:37:00,133 --> 00:37:04,066
He finds something
extraordinary.
709
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:08,367
It contains a chemical
more deadly than cyanide.
710
00:37:09,567 --> 00:37:12,266
WADE DAVIS: Tetrodotoxin
acts by physically
711
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,934
blocking nerves but it
brings on a state of
712
00:37:15,066 --> 00:37:18,300
apparent death so profound
that it has many times
713
00:37:18,433 --> 00:37:20,033
fooled physicians.
714
00:37:20,166 --> 00:37:22,033
NARRATOR: Had the Haitian
priests discovered
715
00:37:22,166 --> 00:37:25,266
a drug that could
replicate death?
716
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,800
If so, where
did they get it?
717
00:37:28,934 --> 00:37:30,233
WADE DAVIS: In Haiti
there's this sort of
718
00:37:30,367 --> 00:37:34,667
famous puffer fish which
inflates like a big porcupine.
719
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,734
Without doubt, the Haitian
sorcerers had identified
720
00:37:37,867 --> 00:37:41,133
a natural product that
contained a toxin that
721
00:37:41,266 --> 00:37:43,533
could make someone
appear to be dead.
722
00:37:43,667 --> 00:37:45,867
NARRAT: Could this
powerful drug produce the
723
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,667
symptoms Narcisse
experienced?
724
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,400
WADE DAVIS: He said
he was paralyzed.
725
00:37:51,533 --> 00:37:53,834
He could hear himself
pronounced dead.
726
00:37:53,967 --> 00:37:56,633
He could sense the sheet
pulled over his eyes.
727
00:37:56,767 --> 00:38:01,367
He heard his sister begin to
wail but he could not respond.
728
00:38:01,500 --> 00:38:07,066
NARRATOR: Was an innocent
man turned into a zombie?
729
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:12,867
The evidence seems undeniable,
except for one thing.
730
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,233
WADE DAVIS: No one
knows if Narcisse was
731
00:38:14,367 --> 00:38:16,467
administered the poison.
732
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,066
What we do know is that
he was pronounced dead.
733
00:38:21,900 --> 00:38:23,033
WILLIAM SHATNER:
All right.
734
00:38:23,166 --> 00:38:25,467
Let's, let's think about
this for a second.
735
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:31,000
We know that a certain
set of brain alterations,
736
00:38:31,133 --> 00:38:34,000
diseases or injuries could
cause the zombie-like
737
00:38:34,133 --> 00:38:36,633
symptoms you see in the
movies, that a mysterious
738
00:38:36,767 --> 00:38:44,700
poison has the power to
mimic death, but is there
739
00:38:44,834 --> 00:38:48,834
any real proof that we
can return from the dead?
740
00:38:48,967 --> 00:38:50,734
Well let me tell
you something.
741
00:38:50,867 --> 00:38:54,166
The living dead are
living among us -
742
00:38:54,300 --> 00:38:57,867
and they're in Detroit.
743
00:39:00,100 --> 00:39:01,300
NARRATOR: At a warehouse
in Detroit, something
744
00:39:01,433 --> 00:39:04,533
remarkable is happening.
745
00:39:04,667 --> 00:39:08,800
Inside these containers, a
hundred and three people
746
00:39:08,934 --> 00:39:13,734
are waiting - to
return from the dead.
747
00:39:13,867 --> 00:39:16,400
This is a cryonics centre.
748
00:39:16,533 --> 00:39:19,200
The people entombed here
have made an incredible
749
00:39:19,333 --> 00:39:25,834
choice - to have their
bodies frozen after death,
750
00:39:25,967 --> 00:39:29,300
with the hope that science
will one day bring them
751
00:39:29,433 --> 00:39:31,600
back to life.
752
00:39:31,734 --> 00:39:33,533
NARRATOR: Ben Best
is the president of the
753
00:39:33,667 --> 00:39:36,066
Cryonics Institute.
754
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:40,100
He believes not only
can we survive death
755
00:39:40,233 --> 00:39:43,100
but that the people here
haven't actually died.
756
00:39:44,767 --> 00:39:46,567
BEN BEST: We do call them
patients because we don't
757
00:39:46,700 --> 00:39:49,000
regard them as being dead
in an ultimate sense.
758
00:39:49,133 --> 00:39:53,033
I think in practice be
regarded as a hospital
759
00:39:53,166 --> 00:39:54,433
because I think that's
what we're doing, we're
760
00:39:54,567 --> 00:39:57,934
holding these metabolically
challenged patients.
761
00:39:58,066 --> 00:40:01,100
NARRATOR: But can
cryogenics work?
762
00:40:02,967 --> 00:40:06,166
It's a remarkable and
controversial process.
763
00:40:06,300 --> 00:40:08,867
BEN BEST: Behind me
are our cryostats.
764
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,233
They hold liquid
nitrogen, which is at
765
00:40:12,367 --> 00:40:16,066
minus 196 degrees Celsius.
766
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,600
Each of these cylindrical
units holds six patients.
767
00:40:19,734 --> 00:40:22,433
NARRATOR: Best believes
cryogenics has changed our
768
00:40:22,567 --> 00:40:25,200
definition of death.
769
00:40:25,333 --> 00:40:28,734
Only a few decades ago if
your heart stopped -
770
00:40:28,867 --> 00:40:30,367
that was it.
771
00:40:30,500 --> 00:40:34,734
BEN BEST: But it's just not
the way we see things anymore.
772
00:40:34,867 --> 00:40:37,800
NARRATOR: How do you keep
someone who is dead alive?
773
00:40:40,834 --> 00:40:42,834
It begins by pumping
oxygen-rich blood
774
00:40:42,967 --> 00:40:44,667
throughout the body.
775
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,233
This keeps cells alive
and avoids damage caused
776
00:40:47,367 --> 00:40:49,400
by rigor mortis.
777
00:40:49,533 --> 00:40:53,333
Then, the body
must be cooled.
778
00:40:53,467 --> 00:40:55,500
BEN BEST: We don't just
drop the patient in
779
00:40:55,633 --> 00:40:58,233
a liquid nitrogen.
780
00:40:58,367 --> 00:41:01,400
NARRATOR: The body
temperature is slowly
781
00:41:01,533 --> 00:41:05,800
lowered, first by an ice
bath and then in a cooling
782
00:41:05,934 --> 00:41:10,233
chamber where it will
reach minus 196 degrees.
783
00:41:10,367 --> 00:41:13,467
Best believes this will
preserve these bodies for
784
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:19,700
hundreds or perhaps
thousands of years.
785
00:41:19,834 --> 00:41:22,066
But why?
786
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:23,333
BEN BEST: It seems to me,
if you're preserving all
787
00:41:23,467 --> 00:41:26,667
the material there, that
some future technology is
788
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,400
going to be able to figure
out a way to get that all
789
00:41:30,533 --> 00:41:34,066
fixed and going again.
790
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,533
It's reasonable to think
that nano machines can
791
00:41:36,667 --> 00:41:40,000
restore the person to
their original condition.
792
00:41:40,133 --> 00:41:43,333
NARRATOR: Nano machines
already exist -
793
00:41:43,467 --> 00:41:46,133
tiny machines smaller
than a single cell.
794
00:41:46,266 --> 00:41:47,734
Scientists believe they
could soon flow through
795
00:41:47,867 --> 00:41:51,600
our bloodstream, targeting
viruses, repairing organs
796
00:41:51,734 --> 00:41:55,000
and destroying disease.
797
00:41:55,133 --> 00:41:58,233
Can cryogenics give
us life after death?
798
00:41:58,367 --> 00:42:02,233
Could it even conquer
death itself?
799
00:42:02,367 --> 00:42:04,166
Best believes it is
our greatest hope for
800
00:42:04,300 --> 00:42:06,000
eternal living.
801
00:42:06,133 --> 00:42:08,667
BEN BEST: It doesn't seem
so much more unreasonable
802
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:13,066
than to speculate that people
will someday live on Mars.
803
00:42:14,433 --> 00:42:17,500
NARRATOR: Can we die and
wake up a thousand years
804
00:42:17,633 --> 00:42:20,667
later and resume
our lives?
805
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,867
And even if we can,
would we really want to?
806
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,500
Or do we return as
zombies, doomed to
807
00:42:28,633 --> 00:42:30,834
a mindless existence?
808
00:42:30,967 --> 00:42:36,567
Is life after death
really life at all?
809
00:42:36,700 --> 00:42:39,133
Weird or what?
810
00:42:39,266 --> 00:42:46,900
[♪]
811
00:42:51,066 --> 00:42:52,800
NARRATOR: So
there we have it,
812
00:42:52,934 --> 00:42:57,066
stories of life after death
from all over the world.
813
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,400
In Connecticut, a man is
overcome with emotion at
814
00:42:59,533 --> 00:43:02,266
a Civil War battlefield.
815
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:07,467
Is he the reincarnation
of a dead general?
816
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,333
In England, scientists
conduct a remarkable
817
00:43:10,467 --> 00:43:13,166
paranormal experiment.
818
00:43:13,300 --> 00:43:16,967
Did they find the first
proof of the afterlife?
819
00:43:18,567 --> 00:43:21,300
And in Haiti, a man
returns from the grave
820
00:43:21,433 --> 00:43:23,500
eighteen years
after his death.
821
00:43:24,867 --> 00:43:27,834
Are the living dead
walking amongst us?
822
00:43:27,967 --> 00:43:31,367
Do zombies exist?
823
00:43:31,500 --> 00:43:35,133
Are these stories evidence
of life after death?
824
00:43:35,266 --> 00:43:39,333
Can we dismiss those who
claim they are true?
825
00:43:39,467 --> 00:43:40,700
You decide.
826
00:43:40,834 --> 00:43:42,700
WILLIAM SHATNER: Join me
next time for more stories
827
00:43:42,834 --> 00:43:46,233
that will
undoubtedly be...
828
00:43:46,367 --> 00:43:48,867
weird or what?
829
00:43:52,166 --> 00:44:02,200
[♪]
830
00:44:05,533 --> 00:44:12,467
[♪]
831
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:13,567
[♪]
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