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We are the first all-girl band
that wrote their own material
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and played their own
instruments to be really successful.
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All right, this is for
you for being so nice.
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I gave up looking for a reason
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To live with things
just the way they were
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I came around, used to be
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Easy to get to so they
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Got to me in just about every way
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Caught with no cards up your sleeve
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Not much to choose from
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Grew up all along
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Just thinking that you couldn't lose
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I came around, used to be
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Easy to get to so they
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Got to me in just about every way
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Can't stop the world
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Can't stop the world Why let it stop you?
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People automatically assumed
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that we were probably
put together by some guy,
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but we did it all ourselves.
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Let's go!
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We got on stage,
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and it happened to be a group
of women really kicking ass.
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It was great.
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One in a million bands
gets to where we got.
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America knew who The Go-Go's were.
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These are The Go-Go's.
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Charlotte Caffey, Gina Schock,
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Jane Wiedlin, Kathy Valentine
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and Belinda Carlisle.
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The greatest all-girl group
of all time, The Go-Go's.
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- The Go-Go's!
- The Go-Go's!
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We were really making big
strides, loving what we were doing
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and being in that moment of, like, wow!
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Can't stop the world...
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I couldn't walk down
the street at that time.
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That's how famous The Go-Go's were.
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In the course of a year,
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we had gone from playing dive
bars to Madison Square Garden.
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Can't stop the world
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I was on top of the world,
I felt like we had made it.
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There never would have been The Go-Go's
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without the punk rock
scene in Los Angeles.
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Well, you got it! From
Hollywood, The Go-Go's!
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Happy Saint Patrick's Day.
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There's a problem with the monitor here,
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and I'm getting shocked. Sorry.
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At the time, there were 50
kids tops in the LA punk scene.
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It was DIY, and if you were
terrible, you were cooler,
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and anybody could do
whatever they wanted.
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It was total freedom.
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Don't assume that we never think
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You think you know but you haven't a clue
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- 'Cause we're - We're
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- Here - Here
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- Now - Now
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We don't need you around
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It was about feeling
emotion, anger, rage.
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And you got to express it.
And the rawer, the better.
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Don't make the mistake of criticizing
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Don't even bother patronizing
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I was such a punk, it
was like my identity.
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Being in The Go-Go's meant
being more involved in the scene
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with all your friends. Just
a great sense of belonging.
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...around
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- 'Cause we're - We're
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I was a little bit of an outsider,
because I wasn't overtly punk rock.
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You wouldn't think so looking at me,
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I look really straight, but I
have a very twisted mind.
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We hated society and our parents
but we supported each other.
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Everyone was welcome,
outcasts, geeks, gays, straights,
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people of color, women. It was inclusive.
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- 'Cause we're - We're
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- Here - Here
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- Now - Now
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And that was a great place for me to be,
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because I always
felt like I didn't fit in.
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I kind of had this image of
being this really happy person,
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and I can be.
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But I have this thing in me
that's just always there, like...
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I have a lifelong history of depression.
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When I was 15, I tried to kill myself.
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Right around that same time, I
was looking at Women's Wear Daily,
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and they had all these photos
of the London punk scene.
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Oh, my God, it really spoke
to me. I was like, "I want this!"
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So I just started making
my own punk clothes,
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and one weekend, I went
to this store on Sunset Strip
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that was called Granny Takes a Trip,
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and while I was in there,
I met Pleasant Gehman.
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This little girl came
in, she had huge eyes.
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She looked like an anime action figure.
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She had these shirts that had
two zippers sewn in over the boobs,
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and so, when you unzipped them,
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your bra or your bare
boobs would come out.
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She told me that there was a
scene in Hollywood, a punk scene,
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and she gave me a flyer for
this club called the Masque.
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In the punk scene, there was
just so much energy and anger.
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And having suppressed
bad feelings my whole life,
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the suicide attempt was
obviously it trying to come out,
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and then, becoming a punk rocker,
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I felt was a really positive
way for it to come out.
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People used to cross the
street when they saw me.
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I felt powerful for the first time.
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I just felt like I had found my home.
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The punk scene gave
me an outlet to act out
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and be the badass that I thought I was.
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I'm the oldest of seven kids.
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My father left when I was five.
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My stepfather was hardcore,
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very much an old-school disciplinarian.
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We had no money.
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I remember growing up and being in school
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and always feeling like
I was pretending to be
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something that I probably wasn't.
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I was a real good student,
I was a cheerleader.
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Does anybody have a cigarette?
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But then, I discovered the punk scene,
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and that opened up a
whole new world for me.
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Everybody in the LA punk rock scene...
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it was like there was
invisible smoke signals
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getting sent out of, like, you know,
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"You need to go to
this club on that night."
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And the Sex Pistols were playing
at Winterland in San Francisco,
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and pretty much everybody in LA drove up.
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It was really like a
religious pilgrimage.
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They were just the kings of
the original, original punk scene.
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Problem, problem, problem, problem...
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The Sex Pistols gave this,
like, slacker performance
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that wasn't compelling at all.
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Johnny Rotten, at the end of the show,
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said the famous quote of his.
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Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?
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Good night!
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You know, it was kind of like,
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"Oh, man, these guys were our
heroes, and they kind of suck."
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And it also felt like the first
wave of punk was sort of dying.
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It was time for some new
people to start doing something.
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I think that was the weekend
I actually got to know Margot,
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and then we started
talking about forming a band,
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a girl band, actually.
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Everybody was in a band.
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I mean, it was like the
cool thing to be in a band.
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And we were basically
the only people left
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that weren't in a band,
so we decided to do it too.
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I met Elissa.
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She was one of my high
school friend's cousins.
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Margot then met Belinda.
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The punk scene was so small,
so we all knew each other vaguely.
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Thinking about bands like The Shirelles
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and The Shangri-Las,
it was exciting to think
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we could do the new version of that.
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But this time, we were
going to play instruments.
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With one little problem?
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That we didn't know
how to play instruments.
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Well, I wanted to play bass
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and I knew I would
have to learn by doing.
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I didn't have drums, I had
to go out and find drums.
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You know, I had a couple of
weeks of folk guitar lessons
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when I was 12, I'll just play guitar.
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I certainly thought I could sing.
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I thought I sounded
like Julie Andrews. But...
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We can do what we want We can say...
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We didn't know what we were doing.
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In the punk scene it was like,
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"Great, you don't know what
you're doing? Just fucking do it."
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Charming, darling.
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We'd sort of been, like,
going over different names,
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nothing really seemed
right or whatever...
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Was it the Misfits, it was gonna be?
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Because that's how
we sort of felt at the time.
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At that time, The Kinks came
out with Misfits, the album.
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We thought, "No, everyone will
think, you know, we stole it from them."
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So, The Go-Go's seemed to fit us.
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I remember doing our first
show. It was at the Masque.
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Everyone was excited when
The Go-Go's played at the Masque.
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Their set was three songs long,
and two of them were the same song.
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We only knew those songs,
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so it wasn't a matter
of having a set list.
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We didn't need one.
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There's one song about Robert Hilburn
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who was a huge music
critic at the LA Times.
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Betcha think you're really smart
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We know better You're a boring fart
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New wave music makes good
copy Tell us Bob, could punk be art?
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People were either laughing
or completely mortified in horror.
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It was a big, fat mess.
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I wasn't really intimidated
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about being as terrible as
we were in the beginning.
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That was the whole point,
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you can sound horrible
and still make music.
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I think that deep down inside,
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we knew that we had
something really special,
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but we needed someone that
actually knew how to... do it.
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Let's try plugging the
amps into the wall first,
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like, you know what I mean?
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When I was very, very young,
like, first and second grade,
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I had an Elvis Presley record
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and Johann Strauss "Blue Danube" waltz.
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I would listen to both of them,
like put one on, dance around,
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put the other one on,
waltz around, you know...
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I started playing piano
when I was four years old.
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At a very young age, I
was moved by music.
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I had an ear for music.
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I went to Immaculate Heart
College, taking classical piano.
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I loved it, but it was
kind of snotty attitude,
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like, some of these students
were just like, "Who are you?"
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I started going to some
of the punk rock shows.
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The punk bands just busted me
open, knowing that all this music theory,
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rules, had to be thrown out the window.
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Don't talk to me
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When I graduated college,
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my best friend Joe
Ramirez and I started a band.
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We named it The Eyes.
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It was one of the most freeing
things just to turn up our amps to ten,
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bash through, and just anything went.
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Don't talk to me Don't look at me
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Don't talk to me, oh yeah
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Don't talk to me, don't
look at me Don't talk to me
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That is like a feminist anthem
for women of my generation.
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Margot and I went to an Eyes show
where we thought, "Oh, Charlotte!"
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Yeah
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We thought she was perfect.
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I'm backstage, and I see these
two sets of legs walking up.
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One has spikey heels,
ripped fishnets, a trash bag.
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That was Belinda.
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She said, "Hi, Charlotte.
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You know, we're starting this
all-girl band, do you wanna join?"
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And what am I gonna say, no?
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I was totally intimidated by them,
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because Jane and Belinda
and Margot, they're all like punks
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and they're asking me,
like the dork of all time,
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to, like, join their band. So,
I felt kind of special, I guess.
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When they asked, "Hey, do
you play lead guitar?" I lied.
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I figured I played bass so, you know,
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"Yeah, it's a couple
more strings, it'll be okay."
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We started rehearsing...
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but, you know...
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we were pretty crappy in the beginning.
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We really didn't sound that great.
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It was pretty screechy.
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I remember going into the
Masque one Saturday afternoon,
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hearing some music and thinking,
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"Oh, who's rehearsing down here today?"
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And then, opening a door
and seeing Belinda on stage
245
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holding a mic kind of awkwardly.
246
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I just thought, "Oh,
God, that's so great,
247
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women pulling together
to achieve something,"
248
00:15:10,690 --> 00:15:13,735
and I wanted to support
that cause and be part of it.
249
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I love communities of women.
250
00:15:18,114 --> 00:15:21,618
This band caught my
interest for that reason.
251
00:15:24,662 --> 00:15:26,664
This song's called "Fashion Seekers".
252
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Bland ideas in a borrowed head
253
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We saw no reason why we couldn't
be just as good as the boys or men.
254
00:15:47,977 --> 00:15:51,356
They'll suck the shirt
right off of your back
255
00:15:51,564 --> 00:15:54,942
We weren't going to be
anything but a great band.
256
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They were really on the fast
track, and they wanted to get going.
257
00:16:02,450 --> 00:16:06,204
And so, they weren't going to
let anything stand in their way.
258
00:16:08,873 --> 00:16:11,209
Elissa was very, very eccentric.
259
00:16:12,460 --> 00:16:15,296
I don't know if she
was shy or an introvert,
260
00:16:15,463 --> 00:16:17,715
but she was never
really part of the gang.
261
00:16:17,924 --> 00:16:19,676
She always held herself apart.
262
00:16:20,802 --> 00:16:22,970
I was coming from two different worlds.
263
00:16:23,930 --> 00:16:28,226
I had to answer to my employer,
and I had to answer to the band.
264
00:16:29,894 --> 00:16:32,939
And they wanted me
to quit my job, the girls,
265
00:16:33,147 --> 00:16:35,191
and be more dedicated.
266
00:16:35,358 --> 00:16:39,237
I stuck my toe in the water,
but I never dove in all the way.
267
00:16:40,071 --> 00:16:43,574
We definitely needed to bring
somebody in that wanted to be there.
268
00:16:44,742 --> 00:16:48,079
I happened to meet the girls
at a party one night, and...
269
00:16:48,246 --> 00:16:51,207
That's how it started,
I invited 'em over for...
270
00:16:51,416 --> 00:16:52,916
They said, "We're looking for a drummer."
271
00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,700
"Oh, we're looking for a drummer."
272
00:16:54,836 --> 00:16:57,380
And I said, "Great.
I'll try out for the band."
273
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One, two, three, four
274
00:17:02,093 --> 00:17:04,428
The amps are set up, they
bring their guitars, plug in,
275
00:17:04,512 --> 00:17:07,849
we play like three songs,
and it was like... done deal.
276
00:17:08,057 --> 00:17:09,767
I buy cologne
277
00:17:09,976 --> 00:17:13,396
Holy shit! I don't even know
how to describe the difference.
278
00:17:13,604 --> 00:17:16,691
It was really, like, ta-da!
279
00:17:17,817 --> 00:17:19,610
I need promises...
280
00:17:20,570 --> 00:17:23,489
The next thing I know, they
found this other drummer.
281
00:17:23,948 --> 00:17:26,617
I was very upset and hurt.
282
00:17:27,493 --> 00:17:30,329
When you kick people out
of bands, it's fucking tough.
283
00:17:30,747 --> 00:17:33,297
But at the time, these
things just seemed necessary,
284
00:17:33,458 --> 00:17:35,585
and they seemed for the good of the band.
285
00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:37,378
When she was 13,
286
00:17:37,545 --> 00:17:40,715
she would come home from
school, go up into the front bedroom,
287
00:17:41,048 --> 00:17:43,885
put the earphones on
and bang on the drums.
288
00:17:44,719 --> 00:17:47,019
A lot of girls weren't
playing drums back then,
289
00:17:47,180 --> 00:17:49,307
and so I got in a band right away.
290
00:17:49,891 --> 00:17:52,518
We were Baltimore's
first new wave punk band.
291
00:17:52,727 --> 00:17:53,853
We had a lot of fun,
292
00:17:54,061 --> 00:17:57,148
but at that point I was like,
"I want to play in arenas."
293
00:17:57,356 --> 00:18:00,006
"I don't want to stay playing
in clubs my whole life."
294
00:18:01,486 --> 00:18:03,237
When I left Baltimore I told everybody,
295
00:18:03,321 --> 00:18:05,921
"The next time you see
me, I'm gonna be a rock star."
296
00:18:06,532 --> 00:18:09,702
I drove across country
with a dream and a camera.
297
00:18:09,911 --> 00:18:11,711
I was, like, always taking pictures.
298
00:18:15,208 --> 00:18:17,710
I had 2000 dollars and two grams of coke.
299
00:18:22,048 --> 00:18:23,757
I remember the first time I met Gina,
300
00:18:23,841 --> 00:18:26,841
she had this frizzy blonde hair
and she was wearing overalls.
301
00:18:26,928 --> 00:18:30,056
She looked crazy, and I
was like, "I'm going to fix you."
302
00:18:30,473 --> 00:18:32,873
She needed a little bit
of, you know, punking up.
303
00:18:34,393 --> 00:18:38,022
So, we cut her hair, dyed
it black, and she was ready.
304
00:18:39,941 --> 00:18:42,109
Then, I was into taking just Polaroids.
305
00:18:44,862 --> 00:18:47,949
The punk scene allowed you
to be whoever you wanted to be,
306
00:18:48,115 --> 00:18:51,415
play the way you wanted to play,
and you fit in. You were accepted.
307
00:18:54,247 --> 00:18:57,208
Being in that setting made me feel safe.
308
00:18:59,085 --> 00:19:01,796
And it just allowed us a lot more freedom
309
00:19:02,088 --> 00:19:03,714
to do what we wanted to do.
310
00:19:05,550 --> 00:19:06,843
It's like a dream...
311
00:19:08,177 --> 00:19:09,627
only you're really living it.
312
00:19:12,223 --> 00:19:17,520
Jane was just so cute and sweet
and bubbly, and her little voice.
313
00:19:17,937 --> 00:19:20,647
We both had crushes on each
other, I guess you could say,
314
00:19:20,731 --> 00:19:22,531
but we were girlfriends for a while.
315
00:19:24,151 --> 00:19:27,301
She was the boss in the
relationship, I was the new kid in town,
316
00:19:27,488 --> 00:19:29,657
and it made me feel comfortable.
317
00:19:32,201 --> 00:19:33,619
Jane broke up with me.
318
00:19:39,750 --> 00:19:42,795
It wasn't like either one of us
were heartbroken or anything.
319
00:19:43,004 --> 00:19:47,133
You think something like that's
going to fuck with the band? No way.
320
00:19:47,341 --> 00:19:49,802
One, two, G-O, G-O
321
00:19:51,053 --> 00:19:53,973
What Gina brought, besides
being a really amazing drummer,
322
00:19:54,140 --> 00:19:56,100
is that she made us work hard.
323
00:19:56,517 --> 00:20:00,313
She said, "You guys have to
rehearse every single night."
324
00:20:00,479 --> 00:20:02,929
And we're just like, "What
are you talking about?"
325
00:20:03,274 --> 00:20:06,224
Hey, it doesn't hurt to rehearse,
it only makes you tighter.
326
00:20:06,944 --> 00:20:10,239
I mean, I was determined
to whip them into shape.
327
00:20:12,241 --> 00:20:15,494
Because I felt there was
something magical there.
328
00:20:16,120 --> 00:20:17,830
You just needed to push it more.
329
00:20:17,997 --> 00:20:20,332
You needed to get the girls to
be more focused and more serious
330
00:20:20,416 --> 00:20:21,666
about what they're doing.
331
00:20:22,627 --> 00:20:23,628
She was right.
332
00:20:24,128 --> 00:20:30,509
We improved, and it pushed us
to another level. And I was on fire!
333
00:20:33,763 --> 00:20:37,683
I was sitting at home,
it was about midnight,
334
00:20:37,892 --> 00:20:39,810
I was watching The Twilight Zone.
335
00:20:40,019 --> 00:20:41,729
You're flying to a new planet,
336
00:20:41,938 --> 00:20:45,399
a planet of light, of
darkness and the in-between.
337
00:20:47,360 --> 00:20:51,280
I wanted to write a song, and I was
listening to the music all day long.
338
00:20:51,739 --> 00:20:53,782
I really wanted to write
something with a beat.
339
00:20:53,866 --> 00:20:55,785
I was hearing something in my mind.
340
00:20:57,161 --> 00:20:59,511
I was just sitting there
minding my own business
341
00:21:00,498 --> 00:21:02,458
and all of a sudden this whole melody,
342
00:21:02,625 --> 00:21:07,296
this whole idea came to my
mind, and I was like, "Oh, shit."
343
00:21:07,797 --> 00:21:09,966
I ran and got my little cassette player.
344
00:21:11,884 --> 00:21:13,469
And I wrote the song,
345
00:21:13,636 --> 00:21:15,936
it was like five minutes,
it just all came out.
346
00:21:16,681 --> 00:21:18,140
The zone of writing,
347
00:21:18,641 --> 00:21:21,791
I don't know what happens, but
I can get to that place and boom,
348
00:21:21,894 --> 00:21:25,094
just these ideas just start
flowing and it's like, it's pretty...
349
00:21:25,564 --> 00:21:27,264
pretty phenomenal when it happens.
350
00:21:29,568 --> 00:21:33,614
Back then, I didn't
have a sense of myself.
351
00:21:34,573 --> 00:21:39,578
Songwriting was so important to
me, it was my identity, my safety zone.
352
00:21:41,914 --> 00:21:45,292
And so, with "We Got
the Beat", I was terrified.
353
00:21:45,459 --> 00:21:48,211
I was thinking, "Man, these girls are
going to throw me out of this band,"
354
00:21:48,295 --> 00:21:49,630
'cause it was a pop song.
355
00:21:51,632 --> 00:21:54,468
See the people walking down the street
356
00:21:54,635 --> 00:21:56,845
I don't remember her being
nervous, I just remember thinking
357
00:21:56,929 --> 00:22:00,141
it was an amazing song. I
mean, it's just so obvious.
358
00:22:01,892 --> 00:22:03,561
We all loved it right away.
359
00:22:03,769 --> 00:22:06,230
They got the beat, they got the beat
360
00:22:06,439 --> 00:22:08,190
They got the beat
361
00:22:10,651 --> 00:22:12,951
When she started
playing that eighth-note riff,
362
00:22:13,154 --> 00:22:16,554
the pattern that I play on the
drums just poured out of me. It was...
363
00:22:16,824 --> 00:22:18,324
I knew it was gonna be like...
364
00:22:21,203 --> 00:22:22,788
I felt like we had arrived.
365
00:22:22,997 --> 00:22:26,083
It was definitely another
step up that ladder.
366
00:22:26,876 --> 00:22:29,003
Fortunately, they just loved it.
367
00:22:35,968 --> 00:22:39,263
And I believe that changed
the trajectory of the band.
368
00:22:49,273 --> 00:22:52,026
Go-Go music really makes us dance
369
00:22:52,234 --> 00:22:54,277
We were rough sounding
when we played live,
370
00:22:54,361 --> 00:22:57,011
but we had these songs
that were just coming together.
371
00:22:59,742 --> 00:23:02,953
Just doing those little shows,
it was a really cool time.
372
00:23:03,621 --> 00:23:05,790
We were the house band at the Whisky.
373
00:23:07,541 --> 00:23:10,377
So, we would open up for whatever
bands would come into town.
374
00:23:10,461 --> 00:23:11,837
Madness came into town
375
00:23:12,004 --> 00:23:14,304
and they were English,
you know, we loved that.
376
00:23:15,257 --> 00:23:19,470
All-girl band writing their own
tunes? I mean, outrageous!
377
00:23:19,804 --> 00:23:21,263
Yeah, we got it!
378
00:23:23,015 --> 00:23:24,600
We got the beat
379
00:23:24,809 --> 00:23:26,477
Come on, don't be too cool.
380
00:23:26,644 --> 00:23:29,230
They thought we were
great and they went back
381
00:23:29,396 --> 00:23:31,607
and spread the word about The Go-Go's.
382
00:23:32,149 --> 00:23:35,486
And then The Specials
came, and we opened for them.
383
00:23:36,028 --> 00:23:38,155
One of the best things that
happened for The Go-Go's
384
00:23:38,239 --> 00:23:39,907
was meeting us, you know?
385
00:23:40,074 --> 00:23:43,452
And I would say one of the
best things happened to us
386
00:23:43,619 --> 00:23:44,912
was meeting The Go-Go's.
387
00:23:48,833 --> 00:23:52,503
They were young, they were
fresh, they were beautiful.
388
00:23:53,254 --> 00:23:56,382
We are a bunch of misfits,
of course, that's why it works!
389
00:23:58,050 --> 00:23:59,885
Their manager started talking with Ginger
390
00:23:59,969 --> 00:24:03,681
about how to bring us over to England
so we could tour with both bands.
391
00:24:04,682 --> 00:24:06,982
Somebody from The
Specials came to me and said,
392
00:24:07,143 --> 00:24:09,478
"We're planning a
seaside tour in England.
393
00:24:09,687 --> 00:24:12,857
Do you think your band might
be able to get over there?"
394
00:24:13,274 --> 00:24:14,483
And I said, "Yes!"
395
00:24:15,943 --> 00:24:20,072
I did a lot of pawning of
jewelry and selling a lot of things
396
00:24:20,281 --> 00:24:22,867
to be able to get the
girls over on that trip.
397
00:24:24,368 --> 00:24:28,622
She sold everything. Her car...
She put her whole life on sale
398
00:24:28,789 --> 00:24:31,333
basically to fund us to get to London.
399
00:24:33,043 --> 00:24:35,296
My dad was in the entertainment industry,
400
00:24:35,504 --> 00:24:38,841
but he was not behind
me being in this band.
401
00:24:39,717 --> 00:24:44,972
He said, "Hey, there's an opening
at the music library at Paramount."
402
00:24:46,265 --> 00:24:50,269
I remember it was like
a really good-paying job,
403
00:24:50,644 --> 00:24:52,897
and I just said to
him, I said, "I can't,"
404
00:24:53,105 --> 00:24:58,485
because inside of me, I had to
leave. I had to do this, I had to do it.
405
00:25:01,071 --> 00:25:05,451
Seen your pictures in the
'zines And you look real good
406
00:25:05,618 --> 00:25:07,995
Pale, blank faces Black and white keen
407
00:25:08,162 --> 00:25:09,997
London boys, cigarette lean
408
00:25:10,206 --> 00:25:12,541
London boys, wish you were here
409
00:25:12,708 --> 00:25:14,835
Because the punk rock
scene had started in England,
410
00:25:14,919 --> 00:25:17,169
all the bands that we
worshipped were English.
411
00:25:17,254 --> 00:25:22,676
I mean, England was always, for
us, ground zero of great rock music.
412
00:25:23,260 --> 00:25:24,511
It was like Mecca!
413
00:25:28,057 --> 00:25:29,975
When The Go-Go's come over here,
414
00:25:30,184 --> 00:25:32,811
walking around the city
is just really, really bleak.
415
00:25:33,395 --> 00:25:37,107
Shite, absolutely grim, grey.
416
00:25:37,816 --> 00:25:40,194
It wasn't a very nice place to be.
417
00:25:40,361 --> 00:25:43,989
There seemed to be an air of,
"Something's about to go off."
418
00:25:44,156 --> 00:25:48,619
We're living in gangster times
419
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,080
Don't call me Scarface!
420
00:25:52,081 --> 00:25:55,084
The Specials and Madness
were both ska bands,
421
00:25:55,292 --> 00:25:57,002
and they were stars.
422
00:25:58,295 --> 00:26:01,590
We felt like having these
opening slots with two bands
423
00:26:01,757 --> 00:26:05,010
that were at the top of their game,
and were very, very successful there,
424
00:26:05,094 --> 00:26:07,513
that, I mean, how could we fail?
425
00:26:11,558 --> 00:26:15,771
It was our first time touring in a
tour bus and playing every night.
426
00:26:15,980 --> 00:26:19,316
The street lights are shining bright
427
00:26:20,567 --> 00:26:23,570
The billboards are shedding their light
428
00:26:25,364 --> 00:26:27,658
My crowd's hanging around
429
00:26:27,866 --> 00:26:32,162
We were being spit at, stuff
thrown at us every single night.
430
00:26:33,497 --> 00:26:36,417
Ska music attracted a
bunch of the white nationalists,
431
00:26:36,583 --> 00:26:39,211
they called themselves the
National Front in England.
432
00:26:39,503 --> 00:26:41,547
And they hated us.
433
00:26:42,631 --> 00:26:44,258
First of all, we were not ska,
434
00:26:44,425 --> 00:26:47,135
So what the hell were we doing
opening for these ska bands?
435
00:26:47,219 --> 00:26:49,054
Second of all, we're Americans.
436
00:26:49,305 --> 00:26:52,057
And third of all, maybe
worst of all, we were chicks.
437
00:26:56,478 --> 00:26:57,938
No, we don't do that...
438
00:26:59,898 --> 00:27:02,859
You know here are these five
little girls from southern California,
439
00:27:02,943 --> 00:27:06,280
get up on stage and play
to these scary skinheads.
440
00:27:06,655 --> 00:27:07,990
It was frightening.
441
00:27:08,532 --> 00:27:11,744
One venue, a fella was
standing people in a line
442
00:27:12,369 --> 00:27:15,831
with a razor, and another
fella with a hammer.
443
00:27:17,916 --> 00:27:20,878
The tours were not
going at all like we thought
444
00:27:21,045 --> 00:27:22,379
they were going to go.
445
00:27:22,963 --> 00:27:26,113
But at the same time, we were
also having the time of our lives.
446
00:27:27,343 --> 00:27:30,471
There was a lot of romances
going on between the band members.
447
00:27:30,888 --> 00:27:33,473
But it was good 'cause we
all had boyfriends in Madness
448
00:27:33,557 --> 00:27:36,518
or The Specials to console
us when we got off stage.
449
00:27:38,228 --> 00:27:39,813
Gina is one... I love her.
450
00:27:40,647 --> 00:27:42,941
"I just didn't know how to
come and approach you."
451
00:27:43,025 --> 00:27:44,276
"I should've asked you to marry me,
452
00:27:44,360 --> 00:27:45,860
and you probably would've said no,
453
00:27:45,944 --> 00:27:47,779
"but I'd have felt better
that I had asked." You know?
454
00:27:47,863 --> 00:27:50,616
We had such a good
laugh. Oh, she's lovely she is.
455
00:27:52,910 --> 00:27:56,080
I met Terry. He was in The Specials.
456
00:27:56,747 --> 00:27:58,832
We were very attracted to each other.
457
00:27:59,416 --> 00:28:01,376
We spent a lot of time
together on the tour
458
00:28:01,460 --> 00:28:04,963
and it was kind of sort of a romance,
but, I mean, he had a girlfriend,
459
00:28:05,130 --> 00:28:07,924
and supposedly, she was a fiancée
and they were going to get married.
460
00:28:08,008 --> 00:28:09,858
And I don't know what I was thinking.
461
00:28:10,844 --> 00:28:13,794
You know, I just thought it
was this big, important romance.
462
00:28:18,227 --> 00:28:21,563
Behind the scenes, I was
bringing their cassette tapes around.
463
00:28:21,980 --> 00:28:24,030
Stiff Records might've
been a small label,
464
00:28:24,191 --> 00:28:26,443
but they had a group of dedicated people.
465
00:28:28,028 --> 00:28:31,240
I think Ginger asked us whether
we would like to sign them,
466
00:28:31,740 --> 00:28:34,201
but I thought an American punk girl band
467
00:28:34,368 --> 00:28:36,787
who are objecting to being spit at...
468
00:28:36,954 --> 00:28:39,998
I don't know that it's
going to really work.
469
00:28:40,707 --> 00:28:44,628
But I remember seeing "We've
Got the Beat" as a potential single,
470
00:28:44,795 --> 00:28:48,841
which was my talent,
to find the door opener.
471
00:28:50,134 --> 00:28:53,971
I tried to publish the song, 'cause
I could see that it would do well.
472
00:28:54,138 --> 00:28:59,309
They were really pressuring about
the publishing, and I had been told
473
00:28:59,476 --> 00:29:01,311
that that was something
you don't give up.
474
00:29:01,395 --> 00:29:04,940
Ginger, I think, was a
bit more knowledgeable
475
00:29:05,107 --> 00:29:07,609
about the idea of, "Hold
onto what you've got."
476
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,531
Thank dog she knew an artist
needs to keep their publishing,
477
00:29:12,739 --> 00:29:16,452
because, really, it's one of
the only ways to make money,
478
00:29:16,618 --> 00:29:19,368
and it's very valuable and
it's valuable for a lifetime.
479
00:29:20,247 --> 00:29:22,833
Well, I stuck to my guns and signed this
480
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,211
one-single deal with Stiff Records.
481
00:29:31,341 --> 00:29:34,511
"Friday, June 6th in Bridlington."
482
00:29:35,471 --> 00:29:39,349
"Tonight was okay, the audience
were rude, but we played fair."
483
00:29:39,558 --> 00:29:41,560
Bridlington was pretty shitty.
484
00:29:42,060 --> 00:29:44,563
"Oh, well, I guess we'll try harder".
485
00:29:47,065 --> 00:29:50,215
We were just determined, like,
"We're gonna show those fuckers."
486
00:29:50,569 --> 00:29:51,903
Every night, we'd get on stage
487
00:29:51,987 --> 00:29:55,157
and we would be so
belligerent with our playing,
488
00:29:55,491 --> 00:29:58,285
and just being even more of who we were.
489
00:29:59,328 --> 00:30:01,705
And you're the one to blame
490
00:30:01,914 --> 00:30:04,208
I used to know my name
491
00:30:04,416 --> 00:30:07,920
But I've lost control of the game
492
00:30:09,254 --> 00:30:11,757
'Cause even though I set the rules
493
00:30:11,924 --> 00:30:14,510
You've got me acting like a fool
494
00:30:14,676 --> 00:30:17,054
They were really wild, crazy audiences,
495
00:30:17,262 --> 00:30:19,598
but we made fans, as well.
496
00:30:19,806 --> 00:30:21,016
Lust to love
497
00:30:21,225 --> 00:30:23,352
Was the last thing I was dreaming of
498
00:30:23,894 --> 00:30:26,313
And now all I want is just to love
499
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,399
Lust turned to love
500
00:30:29,650 --> 00:30:32,319
They're grew, they proved themselves,
501
00:30:32,486 --> 00:30:34,536
and for The Go-Go's,
to pick themselves up
502
00:30:34,696 --> 00:30:37,096
and leave from LA and
come to London, you know...
503
00:30:37,199 --> 00:30:39,868
Wow! Respect to them
girls, man, you know?
504
00:30:41,411 --> 00:30:44,540
Their musicianship, compared
to us, was second to none.
505
00:30:45,415 --> 00:30:46,915
They taught me a thing or two.
506
00:30:49,336 --> 00:30:50,629
Lust to love
507
00:30:50,879 --> 00:30:53,882
There was nothing much that
we couldn't handle at that point.
508
00:30:54,466 --> 00:30:55,676
Just to love
509
00:30:55,884 --> 00:30:58,845
Lust turned to love
510
00:30:59,263 --> 00:31:00,722
Lust to love
511
00:31:02,224 --> 00:31:03,892
It was us against the world,
512
00:31:04,268 --> 00:31:07,145
and I think we were ready
to take it to the next level.
513
00:31:12,776 --> 00:31:17,114
Our Stiff Records single was
the key that unlocked the door.
514
00:31:18,574 --> 00:31:21,493
People were able to buy
the single in Los Angeles.
515
00:31:23,328 --> 00:31:27,374
KROQ-AM in Burbank
and KROQ-FM in Pasadena,
516
00:31:27,666 --> 00:31:29,585
we're live on the Roqs.
517
00:31:30,419 --> 00:31:32,569
Okay, here's The
Go-Go's, "We Got the Beat."
518
00:31:33,046 --> 00:31:34,756
When we did come back it was like...
519
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,540
"The triumphant return of
the home girls, The Go-Go's!"
520
00:31:38,802 --> 00:31:41,052
Everyone thought we
were huge stars in England
521
00:31:41,179 --> 00:31:43,529
and we were not telling
them anything different.
522
00:31:43,932 --> 00:31:46,143
I remember doing our first show
523
00:31:46,393 --> 00:31:48,979
after we got back at the Starwood.
524
00:31:49,438 --> 00:31:52,106
There were kids wrapped
around the block to get in to see us.
525
00:31:52,190 --> 00:31:53,984
We were like, "Whoa, what happened?"
526
00:31:54,151 --> 00:31:55,751
And I guess our strategy worked.
527
00:32:05,287 --> 00:32:08,832
I was in the Starwood one night,
and The Go-Go's were playing
528
00:32:08,999 --> 00:32:11,209
and they had been in England.
529
00:32:11,710 --> 00:32:14,463
Go-Go music really makes us dance
530
00:32:14,630 --> 00:32:18,216
It was packed and
everyone was going crazy.
531
00:32:19,134 --> 00:32:21,094
That's when they got
more of my attention.
532
00:32:21,178 --> 00:32:22,971
I thought, "Okay, they're going places."
533
00:32:23,055 --> 00:32:25,891
'Cause we got the beat, we got the beat
534
00:32:26,099 --> 00:32:28,393
We got the beat
535
00:32:28,602 --> 00:32:30,687
Yeah, we got it
536
00:32:32,397 --> 00:32:33,523
We got the beat
537
00:32:33,732 --> 00:32:36,443
The difference from before
that tour and after the tour
538
00:32:36,610 --> 00:32:38,320
was just stunning.
539
00:32:38,487 --> 00:32:39,613
We got the beat
540
00:32:39,780 --> 00:32:43,408
I was like, "Oh, my God,
this is going to be huge."
541
00:32:43,867 --> 00:32:45,577
- We got the beat - We got the beat
542
00:32:45,744 --> 00:32:46,745
We got the beat
543
00:32:46,953 --> 00:32:48,914
- We got the beat - We got the beat
544
00:32:49,122 --> 00:32:50,916
- We got the beat - We got the beat
545
00:32:51,124 --> 00:32:52,376
We got the beat
546
00:32:55,420 --> 00:32:57,297
People would freak out when we played.
547
00:32:57,381 --> 00:32:58,465
It was great.
548
00:32:58,632 --> 00:33:01,551
I mean, we felt like we
were at the top of our game,
549
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,887
and yet we couldn't get anywhere with it.
550
00:33:10,686 --> 00:33:12,686
I had a file folder of rejection letters
551
00:33:12,813 --> 00:33:15,440
from record labels in Los Angeles.
552
00:33:15,607 --> 00:33:19,111
"Thanks, but you know, all-girl
bands just don't sell records."
553
00:33:20,112 --> 00:33:23,156
They wouldn't sign us we
were told because we were girls,
554
00:33:23,323 --> 00:33:26,034
and there'd been no predecessor
that had been that successful.
555
00:33:26,118 --> 00:33:27,418
There'd been The Runaways,
556
00:33:27,536 --> 00:33:31,373
but we put ourselves
together, we had no Svengali.
557
00:33:32,165 --> 00:33:33,417
It was ridiculous.
558
00:33:33,917 --> 00:33:36,367
Okay, we were girls, but
look at what we're doing.
559
00:33:37,754 --> 00:33:39,631
You know, close your eyes and listen.
560
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,719
I know a cat who can
really do the cool jerk
561
00:33:43,927 --> 00:33:46,512
Through the years I've been
asked, "Were you feminists?"
562
00:33:46,596 --> 00:33:50,726
We were, I realize it now,
because of our attitudes,
563
00:33:50,934 --> 00:33:51,977
but we weren't,
564
00:33:52,227 --> 00:33:55,477
"We're going to do this against
the guys and you know, fuck them,"
565
00:33:55,689 --> 00:33:57,398
that kind of thing. We
weren't like that at all.
566
00:33:57,482 --> 00:33:59,482
When they see me walking down the street
567
00:33:59,568 --> 00:34:01,194
We thought anything was possible,
568
00:34:01,278 --> 00:34:04,906
including succeeding in that
industry that was run by men.
569
00:34:05,115 --> 00:34:09,244
They know I'm the queen of the cool jerk
570
00:34:09,453 --> 00:34:11,121
Oh cool jerk
571
00:34:11,329 --> 00:34:13,039
Knowing about being a woman in a band
572
00:34:13,123 --> 00:34:15,876
and how many obstacles
they'd had to face...
573
00:34:17,919 --> 00:34:20,964
That the response
isn't, "I'm going to quit."
574
00:34:21,131 --> 00:34:22,424
Bring it down!
575
00:34:25,218 --> 00:34:28,180
It's, "Thank you, assholes,
for telling me I can't do this,
576
00:34:28,346 --> 00:34:31,546
thanks for the inspiration, now
watch me get my next hit single."
577
00:34:38,982 --> 00:34:41,026
After we got home from England,
578
00:34:41,777 --> 00:34:44,278
I would move back and forth
from my parents' all the time
579
00:34:44,362 --> 00:34:45,812
because I'd run out of money.
580
00:34:47,866 --> 00:34:49,618
Terry stayed in touch.
581
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,120
He would send me
letters, and in one letter
582
00:34:52,204 --> 00:34:54,706
he talked about how he
dreamed of having his own band.
583
00:34:54,790 --> 00:34:57,000
And he sent me a bunch of lyrics.
584
00:34:57,167 --> 00:34:59,669
And he said, "I'm going
to write these songs."
585
00:35:01,087 --> 00:35:02,839
Can you hear them?
586
00:35:03,548 --> 00:35:05,675
Talking about us
587
00:35:05,842 --> 00:35:08,762
Telling lies Well, that's no surprise
588
00:35:08,929 --> 00:35:10,514
Can you see them?
589
00:35:10,764 --> 00:35:13,975
I saw the lyrical beginning
to "Our Lips Are Sealed."
590
00:35:14,184 --> 00:35:17,729
They have no shield No secrets to reveal
591
00:35:18,021 --> 00:35:21,024
It doesn't matter what they say
592
00:35:21,566 --> 00:35:26,112
In the jealous games people play
593
00:35:27,989 --> 00:35:30,075
Our lips are sealed
594
00:35:30,450 --> 00:35:31,951
And even though I'd
gotten a little bit lazy
595
00:35:32,035 --> 00:35:34,662
about writing music, because
Charlotte was so good at it,
596
00:35:34,746 --> 00:35:37,039
I figured, why should I
bother, I'll just do lyrics.
597
00:35:37,123 --> 00:35:39,960
But this time, I actually
went back to writing music.
598
00:35:41,127 --> 00:35:44,589
Hush, my darling
599
00:35:45,090 --> 00:35:48,301
Don't you cry
600
00:35:48,969 --> 00:35:52,472
Quiet, angel
601
00:35:52,764 --> 00:35:55,016
Forget their lies
602
00:35:55,183 --> 00:35:56,726
I just thought it was such a good song.
603
00:35:56,810 --> 00:35:58,270
I was so in love with it.
604
00:35:58,436 --> 00:36:00,438
I didn't show it to the
band for weeks and weeks,
605
00:36:00,522 --> 00:36:02,356
'cause I was so afraid
if they didn't like it,
606
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,568
what was I gonna do? I was gonna die.
607
00:36:05,902 --> 00:36:08,363
I remember hearing
that song for the first time.
608
00:36:08,530 --> 00:36:09,947
I was completely blown away with it.
609
00:36:10,031 --> 00:36:11,283
No secrets to reveal
610
00:36:11,449 --> 00:36:15,287
Because of Jane's not being
a trained musician and writer,
611
00:36:15,453 --> 00:36:17,705
the chord progression
in that song is so unusual.
612
00:36:17,789 --> 00:36:19,958
...people play
613
00:36:20,125 --> 00:36:21,459
It really got your attention.
614
00:36:21,543 --> 00:36:23,336
Our lips are sealed
615
00:36:24,504 --> 00:36:27,048
Pay no mind to what they say
616
00:36:27,257 --> 00:36:30,010
We started writing more melodic songs...
617
00:36:31,511 --> 00:36:34,306
and we got this hybrid of pop and punk.
618
00:36:34,514 --> 00:36:37,475
- Hush now darling - Our lips are sealed
619
00:36:37,684 --> 00:36:39,436
Hush now...
620
00:36:42,272 --> 00:36:45,022
It was changing, and some
people didn't like the change.
621
00:36:47,277 --> 00:36:50,780
My identity is punk... I was
so absorbed in the scene,
622
00:36:50,989 --> 00:36:55,118
it was my life, my
lifestyle, my everything.
623
00:36:55,744 --> 00:36:58,204
Oh, yeah, Margot, fuck,
man, yeah, she hated it.
624
00:36:58,371 --> 00:37:00,874
She's like, "I don't want
to be a fucking pop band!
625
00:37:01,041 --> 00:37:02,584
I'm in a punk band."
626
00:37:03,043 --> 00:37:05,754
And I don't know, I think
the rest of us were like...
627
00:37:06,671 --> 00:37:07,881
"This is evolving,
628
00:37:08,089 --> 00:37:11,092
so fucking get with it
or get out." I don't know.
629
00:37:11,843 --> 00:37:14,387
You know, it wasn't just the music,
630
00:37:14,596 --> 00:37:19,017
it was the sense of being
packaged into a product.
631
00:37:21,102 --> 00:37:24,648
It was just becoming less
about art and more about money.
632
00:37:26,191 --> 00:37:29,152
I just felt like, well what
the fuck are you doing it for?
633
00:37:29,527 --> 00:37:32,071
To stay with a following of a
couple of thousand people?
634
00:37:32,155 --> 00:37:34,407
Or do you want to have
people all over this country
635
00:37:34,491 --> 00:37:36,450
know your music and
know your songwriting,
636
00:37:36,534 --> 00:37:38,745
know what kind of musician you are?
637
00:37:41,247 --> 00:37:45,377
We had shows over New
Year's Eve at the Whisky,
638
00:37:45,752 --> 00:37:48,129
and Margot had
gotten really, really sick.
639
00:37:48,338 --> 00:37:50,799
So, we had to scramble
around and find someone.
640
00:37:53,218 --> 00:37:56,721
Kathy, I met at the Whisky-a-Go-Go.
641
00:37:57,722 --> 00:37:59,432
I was approached by Charlotte
642
00:37:59,599 --> 00:38:02,811
and asked if I could
play bass, and I said yes.
643
00:38:02,978 --> 00:38:04,270
It was a big lie.
644
00:38:04,896 --> 00:38:08,191
I figured, I've been playing
guitar five or six years,
645
00:38:08,358 --> 00:38:10,026
why can't I play a bass?
646
00:38:10,735 --> 00:38:12,112
So, I go home.
647
00:38:12,737 --> 00:38:16,116
First thing in the morning, I
borrow a bass from somebody.
648
00:38:16,324 --> 00:38:19,411
Charlotte came over. She
brought me a little cassette.
649
00:38:19,619 --> 00:38:20,620
She left.
650
00:38:21,997 --> 00:38:24,457
I plugged my bass into my guitar amp.
651
00:38:26,209 --> 00:38:28,169
Feels weird, I use my pick.
652
00:38:32,549 --> 00:38:35,249
I start listening, I can't
hear, it's a rehearsal tape.
653
00:38:35,385 --> 00:38:36,485
It sounds, you know...
654
00:38:39,180 --> 00:38:40,807
You know, I'm like, "Shit."
655
00:38:44,269 --> 00:38:46,980
First thing I have to do is
learn on guitar the chords,
656
00:38:47,147 --> 00:38:48,648
because I can't hear.
657
00:38:51,526 --> 00:38:54,320
Then I started picking
up some of the bass parts.
658
00:38:55,196 --> 00:38:56,906
What I could make out I learned,
659
00:38:57,073 --> 00:39:00,076
what I couldn't make out
I just made up my own.
660
00:39:04,956 --> 00:39:07,625
I played it over and over.
661
00:39:09,044 --> 00:39:10,587
I'm a perfectionist, you know.
662
00:39:12,672 --> 00:39:15,175
The only way to do it
as much as I was doing it
663
00:39:15,383 --> 00:39:18,595
was to get pharmaceutical help.
664
00:39:23,224 --> 00:39:26,227
I basically learned all
their songs on a coke binge.
665
00:39:36,029 --> 00:39:38,323
Charlotte came over
to see how it was going.
666
00:39:39,199 --> 00:39:41,249
I went to her house.
She was kind of like,
667
00:39:41,367 --> 00:39:44,204
in the middle of a
three-day bender on coke,
668
00:39:44,370 --> 00:39:46,623
and I'd never met anyone like that.
669
00:39:46,790 --> 00:39:48,416
And I thought, "Wow, my God."
670
00:39:49,834 --> 00:39:52,170
She was a badass musician.
671
00:39:52,587 --> 00:39:56,257
She learned those songs
on bass in, like, a couple days,
672
00:39:56,466 --> 00:39:57,675
and she had never played bass.
673
00:39:57,759 --> 00:39:59,260
By the time I'd learned those songs,
674
00:39:59,344 --> 00:40:00,944
I just wanted to be in the band.
675
00:40:01,346 --> 00:40:02,806
In case you haven't noticed,
676
00:40:02,972 --> 00:40:06,059
we have a bass player
filling in for Margot, she's sick,
677
00:40:06,267 --> 00:40:07,477
and her name's Kathy.
678
00:40:07,685 --> 00:40:09,687
Kathy Valentine, yeah.
679
00:40:11,606 --> 00:40:15,610
In came Kathy Valentine
like a knight in shining armor.
680
00:40:17,987 --> 00:40:21,116
I got to be there with
the sold-out shows.
681
00:40:22,700 --> 00:40:26,955
It was everything that I had been
looking for since I started playing.
682
00:40:28,748 --> 00:40:30,166
I'm an only child,
683
00:40:30,667 --> 00:40:33,336
and it was just me and
my mom when I was raised.
684
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:38,299
I really liked the idea
of a band being a family.
685
00:40:39,759 --> 00:40:42,809
Right away, I just felt like
these are going to be my sisters.
686
00:40:43,012 --> 00:40:44,597
Something just felt right,
687
00:40:44,806 --> 00:40:46,933
it just felt like, "We're here."
688
00:40:47,142 --> 00:40:49,727
Last night you slept, you slept in fits
689
00:40:49,978 --> 00:40:51,687
You smashed your windows bit by bit
690
00:40:51,771 --> 00:40:53,690
They wanted me, and I wanted them,
691
00:40:54,149 --> 00:40:56,776
and I guess it's a lot like cheaters,
692
00:40:56,943 --> 00:40:59,612
you know, people having affairs.
693
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,658
I remember Margot being true to herself
694
00:41:03,825 --> 00:41:05,535
and very authentic.
695
00:41:06,286 --> 00:41:08,788
She wanted to remain a
punk band but we didn't,
696
00:41:09,038 --> 00:41:11,166
so we just...
697
00:41:11,624 --> 00:41:14,419
decided it was best
to carry on without her.
698
00:41:16,296 --> 00:41:18,882
I was told I had to
do the firing, because,
699
00:41:19,048 --> 00:41:21,843
"You're the manager,
Ginger, you've got to do it."
700
00:41:22,051 --> 00:41:25,763
Because none of them
had the guts to do it.
701
00:41:28,558 --> 00:41:31,978
It was a shock to get a
phone call from Ginger.
702
00:41:32,687 --> 00:41:36,065
"You're out of the band. The
girls didn't want to tell you."
703
00:41:36,524 --> 00:41:40,653
It was a decision that they
had made, and that was it.
704
00:41:42,405 --> 00:41:47,994
It was something I'd worked
so hard for, and with friends.
705
00:41:48,578 --> 00:41:51,998
People ask me, "How do
you deal with such betrayal?"
706
00:41:52,373 --> 00:41:54,626
In our little scene in LA,
707
00:41:54,792 --> 00:41:57,503
there was lots of gossip and
lots of people talking about us,
708
00:41:57,587 --> 00:41:58,755
and not in a good way.
709
00:41:59,005 --> 00:42:02,342
We had fired Margot, we had sold out,
710
00:42:02,592 --> 00:42:06,846
we weren't a punk
band, we were ambitious.
711
00:42:07,972 --> 00:42:11,100
In the community, it
became like a divorce.
712
00:42:11,309 --> 00:42:13,937
Because it was like they
were on a rocket to fame
713
00:42:14,103 --> 00:42:16,272
and they decided to fuck Margot over.
714
00:42:16,898 --> 00:42:19,943
I knew I would miss the
scene and the community,
715
00:42:20,151 --> 00:42:23,154
but I didn't want to be
hanging out where I...
716
00:42:23,738 --> 00:42:27,867
would risk running into them.
I didn't want to see them at all.
717
00:42:28,743 --> 00:42:31,955
Pay no mind to what they say
718
00:42:32,622 --> 00:42:36,334
- It doesn't matter
anyway - Hey, hey, hey
719
00:42:36,542 --> 00:42:39,003
I didn't think about how
that must have felt for her.
720
00:42:39,087 --> 00:42:40,213
Our lips are sealed
721
00:42:40,421 --> 00:42:43,049
There were shows booked
for three weeks later,
722
00:42:43,216 --> 00:42:46,177
and I just wanted to make sure I
was the one doing them, you know.
723
00:42:46,261 --> 00:42:49,305
Pay no mind to what they say
724
00:42:49,514 --> 00:42:53,601
Kathy Valentine fit right in
and was the needed change
725
00:42:53,768 --> 00:42:56,229
to propel the band to their next step.
726
00:42:56,396 --> 00:42:58,106
Our lips are sealed
727
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,151
Our lips are sealed
728
00:43:03,653 --> 00:43:08,116
You have no idea how barren
the landscape was in '81.
729
00:43:08,700 --> 00:43:11,703
The idea that women, a
host of different women,
730
00:43:11,869 --> 00:43:14,580
would tell their stories
in these kinds of songs
731
00:43:14,747 --> 00:43:16,666
and do it the punk way...
732
00:43:18,084 --> 00:43:20,734
Finding their own way in
a very difficult environment,
733
00:43:21,170 --> 00:43:22,338
that was unheard of.
734
00:43:29,470 --> 00:43:31,805
There was a whole new
generation of music coming up
735
00:43:31,889 --> 00:43:34,809
and the establishment record business
736
00:43:34,976 --> 00:43:36,686
really sort of dismissed them,
737
00:43:37,353 --> 00:43:40,356
and I saw them as a generational change.
738
00:43:40,898 --> 00:43:43,276
Miles Copeland, who managed The Police,
739
00:43:43,484 --> 00:43:45,987
decided to start his own boutique label.
740
00:43:46,154 --> 00:43:47,754
And he called it I.R.S. Records.
741
00:43:48,656 --> 00:43:51,909
Part of what I wanted
to do was to find some...
742
00:43:52,118 --> 00:43:53,578
local American bands.
743
00:43:54,704 --> 00:43:56,664
And I'd heard about The Go-Go's.
744
00:43:57,123 --> 00:44:00,126
All girls, punks from LA?
745
00:44:00,585 --> 00:44:02,836
Even if they were crap you'd
almost want to sign them,
746
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:03,970
you know what I mean?
747
00:44:04,130 --> 00:44:06,230
But they were good
and they had good songs.
748
00:44:07,759 --> 00:44:11,346
We signed on April 1st to I.R.S. Records
749
00:44:11,554 --> 00:44:14,599
and the next day, we flew to New York.
750
00:44:14,766 --> 00:44:17,477
...if you could and be one of us
751
00:44:17,643 --> 00:44:19,645
We played a couple more gigs.
752
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:29,030
You know, I was 22 years old in
New York City making a record.
753
00:44:29,447 --> 00:44:31,908
Change the lines that were said before
754
00:44:32,075 --> 00:44:33,076
We're all dreamers
755
00:44:33,242 --> 00:44:35,078
With The Go-Go's as a punk band,
756
00:44:35,495 --> 00:44:39,624
they didn't have the experience
to know they could do more
757
00:44:39,791 --> 00:44:41,542
than just execute the moment.
758
00:44:43,127 --> 00:44:45,963
That's what I would
try to instill in them,
759
00:44:46,297 --> 00:44:48,925
and to say there are
grooves, there are feelings.
760
00:44:49,092 --> 00:44:52,053
If your songs are really good,
you don't run through them.
761
00:44:53,888 --> 00:44:56,557
Change the lines that were said before
762
00:44:56,849 --> 00:44:59,227
We're all dreamers, we're all whores
763
00:44:59,435 --> 00:45:02,855
Discarded stars like worn-out cars
764
00:45:03,648 --> 00:45:05,650
When Richard Gottehrer got a hold of us,
765
00:45:05,900 --> 00:45:07,500
he said, "Slow everything down."
766
00:45:07,693 --> 00:45:10,905
This town, litter the
streets in this town
767
00:45:11,114 --> 00:45:13,324
So, you could actually
understand the words
768
00:45:13,491 --> 00:45:16,077
and the melodies were more flowing.
769
00:45:16,244 --> 00:45:18,496
This town is our town
770
00:45:18,663 --> 00:45:20,748
It is so glamorous
771
00:45:20,915 --> 00:45:23,876
That's when I realized,
these are all pop songs.
772
00:45:24,043 --> 00:45:26,045
And be one of us
773
00:45:29,424 --> 00:45:33,052
I think actually it was my idea
for the face masks and towels,
774
00:45:33,344 --> 00:45:36,013
to sort of be timeless and incognito.
775
00:45:37,140 --> 00:45:38,690
I thought fabulous graphically,
776
00:45:38,808 --> 00:45:41,185
I thought, "Oh, that
could be really brilliant."
777
00:45:42,645 --> 00:45:46,524
Once again, we had no
money, so, Ginger went to Macy's
778
00:45:46,732 --> 00:45:48,234
and bought all those towels.
779
00:45:48,401 --> 00:45:51,237
She returned those
towels to Macy's afterwards.
780
00:45:51,571 --> 00:45:54,156
I couldn't invest in all
these brand-new fluffy, white,
781
00:45:54,240 --> 00:45:57,118
expensive towels. We
couldn't afford those.
782
00:45:57,493 --> 00:45:59,495
It is so glamorous
783
00:45:59,704 --> 00:46:03,332
We were like going through
adolescence again together.
784
00:46:07,003 --> 00:46:09,297
Being the good
middle-class boy growing up,
785
00:46:09,672 --> 00:46:11,674
girls are one way, guys are another way.
786
00:46:11,883 --> 00:46:13,676
Well, I learned it's not like that.
787
00:46:14,635 --> 00:46:16,554
I learned that completely from them.
788
00:46:19,015 --> 00:46:21,642
We'd get done with a session
and I'd hear something like,
789
00:46:21,726 --> 00:46:23,268
"Let's go get some booty tonight."
790
00:46:23,352 --> 00:46:25,021
And I'm thinking, "Booty?"
791
00:46:26,898 --> 00:46:29,817
We had a lot of fun, did
a lot of drugs, drank a lot,
792
00:46:29,984 --> 00:46:31,360
just like a band does.
793
00:46:32,737 --> 00:46:37,617
Just a bunch of scruffy girls,
having the time of our life.
794
00:46:37,909 --> 00:46:39,410
This town
795
00:46:41,454 --> 00:46:46,584
But in the midst of all the
bonding and insanity and fun,
796
00:46:47,418 --> 00:46:51,464
I just felt so much
distance with Charlotte.
797
00:46:53,925 --> 00:46:57,220
Charlotte tended to
isolate herself quite a bit.
798
00:46:57,553 --> 00:47:00,305
So, we had really... She had
this whole secret life going on.
799
00:47:00,389 --> 00:47:02,558
We knew it probably wasn't good.
800
00:47:04,018 --> 00:47:06,729
Okay, let me talk about myself.
801
00:47:06,896 --> 00:47:09,357
I was full-blown heroin
addict at the time.
802
00:47:09,524 --> 00:47:12,360
So, I would be scoring
dope, which is so scary.
803
00:47:12,568 --> 00:47:14,737
Like, I'd go down to
Alphabet City. Yikes!
804
00:47:16,489 --> 00:47:18,866
When I moved to New
York, I became a squatter
805
00:47:19,075 --> 00:47:21,494
living in what is now the East Village,
806
00:47:21,744 --> 00:47:26,874
and I saw Charlotte
walking east to Alphabet City.
807
00:47:28,084 --> 00:47:31,504
The Alphabets is where
everyone would go to cop drugs,
808
00:47:31,879 --> 00:47:33,839
so I knew where she was going.
809
00:47:39,887 --> 00:47:43,432
After I graduated from college,
I tried heroin for the first time.
810
00:47:43,599 --> 00:47:46,143
"Oh, let me try this. I'll be fine!"
811
00:47:46,352 --> 00:47:49,202
It was like, you know, a
little matchstick-head-size of...
812
00:47:49,313 --> 00:47:50,356
That I snorted.
813
00:47:52,108 --> 00:47:54,360
It made me feel really
great, and I was like,
814
00:47:54,569 --> 00:47:56,445
"Wow, I like this feeling!"
815
00:47:56,654 --> 00:48:01,075
But I didn't understand at that
time, like, it was deadly shit.
816
00:48:01,534 --> 00:48:03,119
Then, I became addicted.
817
00:48:03,452 --> 00:48:07,290
Automatic, time stop
818
00:48:07,498 --> 00:48:09,792
She and I were like,
sharing a room together
819
00:48:09,959 --> 00:48:13,462
and she was actively
having a heroin addiction,
820
00:48:13,671 --> 00:48:17,383
which I never saw her take
heroin, I never saw heroin.
821
00:48:17,592 --> 00:48:20,135
I mean, how did she do
that? She was very secretive.
822
00:48:20,219 --> 00:48:22,095
She'd come to rehearsal, I'd
say, "Look at her fucking eyes!
823
00:48:22,179 --> 00:48:24,079
Her eyes are pinned, look at her eyes!"
824
00:48:24,724 --> 00:48:27,184
And I went and I knocked on her door.
825
00:48:27,435 --> 00:48:29,687
She answered and she had on her Ray-Bans.
826
00:48:29,895 --> 00:48:32,356
And I said, "They told
me that you do heroin."
827
00:48:32,523 --> 00:48:34,525
And she just looked at
me, she said, "No, no, no."
828
00:48:34,609 --> 00:48:36,259
And I was like, "Oh, okay, good."
829
00:48:37,236 --> 00:48:39,071
She was way more out of control
830
00:48:39,363 --> 00:48:41,782
than I think any of us really knew about.
831
00:48:44,744 --> 00:48:45,828
You all right?
832
00:48:45,995 --> 00:48:47,704
Yeah, I'm trying to
figure something out here.
833
00:48:47,788 --> 00:48:48,831
Okay, go ahead.
834
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:50,666
Just put yours first,
just keep it the same.
835
00:48:50,750 --> 00:48:53,502
Are we both saying it? "Hi,
we're Kathy and Charlotte."
836
00:48:53,711 --> 00:48:55,338
- Yeah, let's just do it.
- Okay.
837
00:48:55,504 --> 00:48:57,965
Yeah. Okay, we'll give it a try.
838
00:48:58,257 --> 00:49:00,843
Here we go. In three, two...
839
00:49:01,552 --> 00:49:04,472
Hi, we're Kathy and
Charlotte of The Go-Go's
840
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,933
and you can watch MTV 24 hours a day
841
00:49:08,142 --> 00:49:10,728
on cable vision in stereo.
842
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,362
Can you hear them?
843
00:49:19,528 --> 00:49:21,280
They talk about us...
844
00:49:21,697 --> 00:49:26,661
The Go-Go's and MTV came up
at the perfect time for each other,
845
00:49:26,952 --> 00:49:29,246
because MTV was all about,
846
00:49:29,413 --> 00:49:32,124
"This is what the artists
that you love look like."
847
00:49:32,667 --> 00:49:37,004
They came along looking
adorable and effervescent and fun.
848
00:49:37,171 --> 00:49:39,048
It just was a match made in heaven.
849
00:49:39,215 --> 00:49:40,466
Hey, hey, hey
850
00:49:42,718 --> 00:49:45,012
Our lips are sealed
851
00:49:45,513 --> 00:49:48,349
Well, it was a cheap
music video, actually.
852
00:49:48,724 --> 00:49:52,269
"Our Lips Are Sealed" was
done on a 6000-dollar budget,
853
00:49:52,478 --> 00:49:55,731
and that money came from a Police video
854
00:49:55,940 --> 00:49:58,275
that they didn't spend
all their money on,
855
00:49:58,442 --> 00:50:01,028
so Miles took the
money and let us spend it.
856
00:50:02,697 --> 00:50:04,198
Doesn't matter what they say
857
00:50:04,407 --> 00:50:06,907
We had no idea how
important video was going to be,
858
00:50:06,992 --> 00:50:09,245
so we thought, "This
is a big waste of time.
859
00:50:09,453 --> 00:50:11,122
Why are we doing this?"
860
00:50:11,288 --> 00:50:12,581
None of us took it seriously.
861
00:50:12,665 --> 00:50:15,751
We wanted to get arrested
and have that on tape.
862
00:50:16,627 --> 00:50:18,838
We decided if we jumped in the fountain,
863
00:50:19,004 --> 00:50:21,089
the Beverly Hills cops
would come and arrest us
864
00:50:21,173 --> 00:50:23,968
and it would be a really
great way to end the video.
865
00:50:24,135 --> 00:50:26,512
So, we're sitting there
frolicking in the water,
866
00:50:26,679 --> 00:50:28,429
frolicking, frolicking, frolicking.
867
00:50:28,556 --> 00:50:31,433
We jumped around in that
goddamn fountain for quite a while
868
00:50:31,517 --> 00:50:33,602
and nobody even paid any attention to us.
869
00:50:33,978 --> 00:50:35,521
No one would arrest us.
870
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,275
Next thing you know, MTV
is the biggest thing in America
871
00:50:39,483 --> 00:50:42,403
and they're showing The
Go-Go's every half hour.
872
00:50:42,611 --> 00:50:44,238
Our lips are sealed
873
00:50:46,240 --> 00:50:49,368
I was saying to Ginger,
"Your band is happening."
874
00:50:49,994 --> 00:50:52,163
"If we put you on opening for The Police,
875
00:50:52,621 --> 00:50:57,126
it's going to really open so
many more eyes and more ears
876
00:50:57,293 --> 00:50:59,920
that it might really help
make the difference."
877
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:04,133
Miles Copeland, with his vision saying,
878
00:51:04,383 --> 00:51:06,802
"Would you like The Go-Go's to
open for The Police?" Why, yes!
879
00:51:06,886 --> 00:51:10,264
It was a coup for us, because
they were huge at the time.
880
00:51:10,848 --> 00:51:14,059
We traveled around the
world opening for them.
881
00:51:19,356 --> 00:51:22,193
They were the best opening act ever.
882
00:51:22,401 --> 00:51:25,613
The Go-Go's came out, they
were so enthusiastic, so up!
883
00:51:25,780 --> 00:51:27,130
Their songs were so bright,
884
00:51:27,323 --> 00:51:29,492
that they just would light up the room.
885
00:51:30,326 --> 00:51:32,661
Walking by
886
00:51:32,912 --> 00:51:37,625
You hold your head so close to hers
887
00:51:37,833 --> 00:51:42,463
I could cry, I could cry
888
00:51:42,713 --> 00:51:44,423
I want to be...
889
00:51:44,632 --> 00:51:47,482
When we toured with The
Police, it took us from playing...
890
00:51:47,593 --> 00:51:49,261
clubs to arenas.
891
00:51:50,054 --> 00:51:52,640
When I walked out
on stage, I almost died.
892
00:51:55,768 --> 00:51:58,395
How much more can I take
893
00:51:58,604 --> 00:52:01,690
They had the most important
ingredient of musicianship,
894
00:52:01,899 --> 00:52:02,942
which is feel.
895
00:52:03,818 --> 00:52:06,445
They established a groove that worked,
896
00:52:06,654 --> 00:52:08,280
that you could lock into.
897
00:52:08,489 --> 00:52:11,242
They just created something
that exploded on the stage.
898
00:52:11,492 --> 00:52:14,537
Yeah, crazy, oh, yeah
899
00:52:15,037 --> 00:52:16,205
Yeah!
900
00:52:22,545 --> 00:52:24,338
During that Police tour,
901
00:52:24,672 --> 00:52:27,172
our album kept going up
and up and up in the chart.
902
00:52:27,258 --> 00:52:32,638
Their album was like a sky rocket,
and that made it really fun for us.
903
00:52:32,805 --> 00:52:35,855
It was like a vicarious thrill,
because we were old and jaded,
904
00:52:36,851 --> 00:52:39,311
to see these women, a new band,
905
00:52:39,603 --> 00:52:41,939
experiencing the
thrill for the first time,
906
00:52:42,147 --> 00:52:43,732
that lit us up.
907
00:52:44,024 --> 00:52:47,695
We were in Atlanta and Sting
came in the dressing room and...
908
00:52:47,862 --> 00:52:49,113
he's got champagne.
909
00:52:49,780 --> 00:52:52,950
"Congratulations, girls." We're
looking at him, like, "What?"
910
00:52:53,659 --> 00:52:56,036
He said, "Your record has passed ours."
911
00:52:57,204 --> 00:52:59,754
They were number six and
then we went to number one.
912
00:53:02,918 --> 00:53:04,545
They brought us champagne.
913
00:53:04,753 --> 00:53:07,381
It was actually very
gentlemanly of them to do that
914
00:53:07,590 --> 00:53:09,884
and not kick us off the tour!
915
00:53:11,176 --> 00:53:13,220
Beauty and the Beat
has gone to number one,
916
00:53:13,304 --> 00:53:16,473
and I think we were all
kind of over the moon.
917
00:53:17,933 --> 00:53:20,769
This is it, this is everything.
918
00:53:21,437 --> 00:53:25,149
Every step along the way,
it just kept getting better.
919
00:53:26,275 --> 00:53:29,570
I wish there was another phrase
other than "dream come true,"
920
00:53:29,737 --> 00:53:33,908
because it was so beyond that.
It was like it fulfilled everything.
921
00:53:34,325 --> 00:53:37,411
This is a circus. I swear.
922
00:53:39,121 --> 00:53:42,499
When you have something that
bucks the system and succeeds,
923
00:53:42,750 --> 00:53:44,043
it opens people's eyes.
924
00:53:44,251 --> 00:53:46,962
They did something that no
group has ever done before them,
925
00:53:47,046 --> 00:53:49,297
and that is have a number-one
album in the United States,
926
00:53:49,381 --> 00:53:50,424
being all girls.
927
00:53:51,342 --> 00:53:54,970
They opened people's
eyes to potential for women
928
00:53:55,137 --> 00:53:58,307
to do something that had
never really been done before.
929
00:53:59,850 --> 00:54:03,187
For The Go-Go's to have a
debut album go to number one,
930
00:54:03,479 --> 00:54:06,273
that's something that only
like, 26 other artists have done,
931
00:54:06,357 --> 00:54:10,110
like, you know, the
biggies, Elvis, The Beatles.
932
00:54:10,986 --> 00:54:12,112
They made history.
933
00:54:12,279 --> 00:54:15,532
They're the first all-female band,
to play their own instruments,
934
00:54:15,699 --> 00:54:19,828
write their own songs,
number-one record for six weeks.
935
00:54:20,371 --> 00:54:21,372
Mic drop.
936
00:54:25,334 --> 00:54:28,963
When I went to The
Go-Go's concert in 1982,
937
00:54:29,254 --> 00:54:35,427
as a young girl going into a
space where women own the stage,
938
00:54:35,970 --> 00:54:40,641
and own it unapologetically
like they were born to be there...
939
00:54:41,725 --> 00:54:45,062
To me, it represented
a moment of possibility.
940
00:54:45,312 --> 00:54:46,689
Thanks, good night!
941
00:54:51,443 --> 00:54:52,736
Thanks a lot!
942
00:54:53,278 --> 00:54:55,363
These... We're having a
high school reunion, you see.
943
00:54:55,447 --> 00:54:57,597
I went to high school
with all these people.
944
00:54:57,700 --> 00:54:59,050
Girls run up to us and say,
945
00:54:59,201 --> 00:55:01,453
"Oh, you know, we started
a band because of you!"
946
00:55:01,537 --> 00:55:03,246
And that's probably the
best feeling in the world,
947
00:55:03,330 --> 00:55:05,624
I mean, it's really great to
think that you inspire people
948
00:55:05,708 --> 00:55:07,126
to go out and start a band.
949
00:55:07,334 --> 00:55:10,170
So, this is the dawning
of a new era, this is it.
950
00:55:13,590 --> 00:55:15,968
Everybody has a different
perspective I'm sure,
951
00:55:16,135 --> 00:55:17,719
on what happened at Saturday Night Live.
952
00:55:17,803 --> 00:55:18,804
Oh, God.
953
00:55:20,556 --> 00:55:22,349
We got there 11:00 in the morning,
954
00:55:22,516 --> 00:55:25,602
and we had to wait until
11:00 at night basically.
955
00:55:25,936 --> 00:55:28,814
I think it was just a case of us
956
00:55:29,565 --> 00:55:32,901
sitting around a TV studio way too long,
957
00:55:33,110 --> 00:55:35,487
and then just starting
to dip into the booze.
958
00:55:36,447 --> 00:55:38,657
Let's have a toast, champagne.
959
00:55:38,907 --> 00:55:42,119
And then, oh, it's lunch
time, we'll have some wine.
960
00:55:42,911 --> 00:55:46,498
So then, you want to balance it
out, you want to lift things up a little,
961
00:55:46,582 --> 00:55:48,959
so magically the blow appears.
962
00:55:49,668 --> 00:55:51,211
Right before we went on, they said,
963
00:55:51,295 --> 00:55:54,547
"Remember, girls, you're playing
in front of 50 million people live."
964
00:55:54,631 --> 00:55:55,831
And we were just like...
965
00:55:56,050 --> 00:55:58,469
Yeah, we got it
966
00:55:58,677 --> 00:56:00,679
We were like cross-eyed drunk.
967
00:56:03,974 --> 00:56:08,395
The funny thing is, the next
day, we sold a ton of records.
968
00:56:09,354 --> 00:56:12,274
Even buzzing, messed-up Go-Go's
969
00:56:12,441 --> 00:56:14,359
being beamed into people's living rooms,
970
00:56:14,443 --> 00:56:17,843
it' still something that people
are just going, "Whoa, we like this."
971
00:56:20,449 --> 00:56:23,535
Well, now that we've had a
little bit of success and stuff
972
00:56:23,702 --> 00:56:27,081
and now we know how
wonderful it can be, we want more.
973
00:56:28,916 --> 00:56:31,919
The Rolling Stone cover was
supposed to be a comment
974
00:56:32,086 --> 00:56:34,129
on sexism, and obviously it backfired,
975
00:56:34,379 --> 00:56:37,007
because if we had really
been trying to be sexy
976
00:56:37,174 --> 00:56:38,926
and push our wares as women,
977
00:56:39,176 --> 00:56:41,428
you know, we would have
worn sexy underwear instead of,
978
00:56:41,512 --> 00:56:43,764
you know, Hanes and Fruit of the Loom.
979
00:56:43,972 --> 00:56:46,975
It's so tame, but when it
came out, it did not help
980
00:56:47,184 --> 00:56:49,186
that Rolling Stone chose the headline:
981
00:56:49,394 --> 00:56:50,896
"The Go-Go's Put Out."
982
00:56:52,106 --> 00:56:55,818
"Ginger, you've gotta call
Rolling Stone. We're not happy.
983
00:56:56,026 --> 00:56:57,819
We don't like that they
used these pictures
984
00:56:57,903 --> 00:56:59,905
on the front of the magazine."
985
00:57:00,447 --> 00:57:03,492
So, I phoned Rolling Stone
and asked for Jann, the publisher.
986
00:57:03,700 --> 00:57:07,121
"I said," Jann, some of the girls
are very upset about the image
987
00:57:07,329 --> 00:57:09,248
used on the front of the magazine."
988
00:57:09,706 --> 00:57:12,626
And there was a brief
pause and Jann said,
989
00:57:13,043 --> 00:57:15,628
"I thought you were calling
me to thank me for the cover.
990
00:57:15,712 --> 00:57:17,631
You girls need to grow up." Clunk!
991
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,467
Maybe that's why we're not in
the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame,
992
00:57:20,551 --> 00:57:22,803
those ungrateful wenches!
993
00:57:24,930 --> 00:57:26,765
Our success was so quick...
994
00:57:28,934 --> 00:57:31,603
and I always felt like a
little bit of an impostor
995
00:57:31,770 --> 00:57:34,439
when it came to success,
like it was undeserved.
996
00:57:34,606 --> 00:57:36,274
We asked them why they are succeeding
997
00:57:36,358 --> 00:57:37,901
where other girl groups have failed.
998
00:57:37,985 --> 00:57:40,236
The majority of the reason
must be because of the songs,
999
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:41,905
because if people don't like your songs
1000
00:57:41,989 --> 00:57:44,157
they're not gonna wanna come
see you live or buy your records.
1001
00:57:44,241 --> 00:57:46,326
Doesn't matter whether
you're a girl or whatever you are.
1002
00:57:46,410 --> 00:57:48,120
I think that timing and luck.
1003
00:57:48,871 --> 00:57:50,789
There is an element of that.
1004
00:57:50,956 --> 00:57:53,750
I think, luckily for us,
there are now five...
1005
00:57:55,043 --> 00:57:59,631
women all in one band
who all have fear of failure.
1006
00:58:00,424 --> 00:58:01,425
Really.
1007
00:58:03,343 --> 00:58:06,763
I think everybody, not just the band,
probably the record company was...
1008
00:58:06,847 --> 00:58:08,848
scrambling around to
figure out what to do next
1009
00:58:08,932 --> 00:58:10,632
on the back of such a big success.
1010
00:58:10,726 --> 00:58:13,269
Putting out a second album
made sense to the record industry,
1011
00:58:13,353 --> 00:58:17,107
because they want to make more
records and make more money.
1012
00:58:17,274 --> 00:58:20,124
And they're going to milk it
for everything that they can.
1013
00:58:20,694 --> 00:58:22,613
But at a price.
1014
00:58:22,946 --> 00:58:24,781
Do you have any time to write songs now
1015
00:58:24,865 --> 00:58:26,665
with all the traveling you're doing?
1016
00:58:27,159 --> 00:58:29,494
We've come to... Right
now, we're starting...
1017
00:58:29,745 --> 00:58:32,163
This next month, we're
going to work on new stuff.
1018
00:58:32,247 --> 00:58:33,797
What are you gonna write about?
1019
00:58:34,333 --> 00:58:38,003
Well, I can't really say what we're
gonna write about, I don't know.
1020
00:58:39,171 --> 00:58:43,133
Vacation, as a record, we were so rushed,
1021
00:58:43,342 --> 00:58:46,470
that the songwriting reflects that.
1022
00:58:47,095 --> 00:58:49,681
But I felt like, "Oh, my
God, I wrote a hit song"
1023
00:58:49,848 --> 00:58:52,309
and now what do I
do," you know? It's like...
1024
00:58:52,893 --> 00:58:54,770
It messes with your head.
1025
00:58:54,978 --> 00:58:58,357
And, you know, you always
hear about the sophomore jinx.
1026
00:59:01,735 --> 00:59:05,072
I was freaking out, because
we were scrambling for material,
1027
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,157
and then luckily, we got "Vacation".
1028
00:59:07,324 --> 00:59:09,374
Kathy wrote "Vacation" and was playing it
1029
00:59:09,493 --> 00:59:12,829
in her previous band to
The Go-Go's, The Textones.
1030
00:59:15,666 --> 00:59:20,212
I've thought a lot of things about you
1031
00:59:20,629 --> 00:59:24,841
I've stayed awake just thinking 'bout you
1032
00:59:25,008 --> 00:59:27,844
I showed it to Charlotte, she
said, "I really like this song,
1033
00:59:27,928 --> 00:59:30,555
I think, you know, it
needs more of a chorus."
1034
00:59:30,764 --> 00:59:34,726
Tomorrow's a day of
mine that you won't be in
1035
00:59:34,935 --> 00:59:36,520
I really felt like...
1036
00:59:36,895 --> 00:59:38,939
the original version kind of went down,
1037
00:59:39,106 --> 00:59:41,006
and this, it just should have gone up.
1038
00:59:41,483 --> 00:59:43,902
Vacation, all I ever wanted
1039
00:59:44,069 --> 00:59:46,780
A vacation, had to get away
1040
00:59:46,989 --> 00:59:49,533
If we hadn't had that song on the record,
1041
00:59:49,700 --> 00:59:52,076
it would have been a very
different outcome for us.
1042
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,495
That probably would've
ended everything right there,
1043
00:59:54,579 --> 00:59:56,331
'cause that song was really cool.
1044
00:59:56,498 --> 00:59:58,166
Had to get away
1045
00:59:58,333 --> 01:00:01,420
Vacation, meant to be spent alone
1046
01:00:01,753 --> 01:00:04,631
Who knew that the girls
were such able water skiers?
1047
01:00:05,632 --> 01:00:07,217
At the video shoot,
1048
01:00:07,801 --> 01:00:11,430
they started wandering off
wearing their little water ski tutus
1049
01:00:11,596 --> 01:00:13,974
and started walking up La Brea Avenue.
1050
01:00:14,224 --> 01:00:16,977
I followed them and
started snapping away.
1051
01:00:17,894 --> 01:00:20,063
They just looked like four ballerinas
1052
01:00:20,230 --> 01:00:23,108
between takes on a
movie set or something.
1053
01:00:26,653 --> 01:00:30,907
"Vacation" soon hit the radio
waves and did really, really well...
1054
01:00:31,408 --> 01:00:33,160
and got lots of play.
1055
01:00:33,368 --> 01:00:36,580
But it stalled in the charts.
1056
01:00:36,913 --> 01:00:38,582
Are you still getting along?
1057
01:00:40,500 --> 01:00:42,669
Yeah, we're getting along really good...
1058
01:00:42,836 --> 01:00:44,879
- Surprisingly, yeah -
...as a matter of fact.
1059
01:00:44,963 --> 01:00:48,132
But this is the beginning of tour,
we'll see how it is the last week.
1060
01:00:48,216 --> 01:00:51,516
No, we'll get along, we always
have got along pretty good, I'd say.
1061
01:00:52,888 --> 01:00:54,348
Show time!
1062
01:00:55,140 --> 01:00:58,352
It's everything but party time
1063
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:02,397
It's everything but party time...
1064
01:01:02,939 --> 01:01:05,108
I mean, this was like
a fucking treadmill.
1065
01:01:05,359 --> 01:01:08,904
They were pushing us constantly.
We were on tour constantly.
1066
01:01:11,239 --> 01:01:13,200
You would be absolutely exhausted
1067
01:01:13,367 --> 01:01:16,912
and arrive from some
long transatlantic flight,
1068
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:20,999
and the promoter for an upcoming
show was reaching out to you
1069
01:01:21,166 --> 01:01:22,292
in panic saying,
1070
01:01:22,459 --> 01:01:24,836
"We need the girls to
do this, this, this and this."
1071
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:26,421
This has been an incredible year.
1072
01:01:26,505 --> 01:01:28,757
The success, how's it affected your life
1073
01:01:28,924 --> 01:01:30,474
at this stage of the ball game?
1074
01:01:30,592 --> 01:01:33,178
We're aware of how well
we're doing but we don't...
1075
01:01:33,637 --> 01:01:35,687
- feel it, yeah, not yet.
- Feel it, yeah.
1076
01:01:35,806 --> 01:01:38,141
Just too much overload
on the brain right now.
1077
01:01:40,268 --> 01:01:43,772
My life has been planned out
for me for the next two years.
1078
01:01:43,980 --> 01:01:47,484
I can tell you my schedule until
September of next year practically.
1079
01:01:51,113 --> 01:01:54,324
When you go from nowhere
to number one, things change.
1080
01:01:54,991 --> 01:01:56,368
It's inevitable.
1081
01:01:57,953 --> 01:02:00,503
The old joke is, you know,
when you're a new manager
1082
01:02:00,622 --> 01:02:02,123
and you knew what you were doing,
1083
01:02:02,207 --> 01:02:04,960
you're signing a new
band, you know, you're God.
1084
01:02:05,335 --> 01:02:07,712
The day they're number
one, you're the janitor.
1085
01:02:07,921 --> 01:02:10,424
Can't seem to get my mind off of you
1086
01:02:10,632 --> 01:02:12,832
What's the worst thing
about being a manager?
1087
01:02:15,887 --> 01:02:17,681
When they don't want you anymore.
1088
01:02:20,267 --> 01:02:24,855
I think the band just got
too big for her to handle.
1089
01:02:26,022 --> 01:02:28,066
We wanted to make the most
1090
01:02:28,233 --> 01:02:30,694
of the time that we had in the spotlight.
1091
01:02:30,902 --> 01:02:33,738
We wanted to make money
and continue to be successful,
1092
01:02:33,947 --> 01:02:35,397
and we felt like we needed...
1093
01:02:37,451 --> 01:02:40,412
a more experienced person at the helm.
1094
01:02:40,912 --> 01:02:45,125
It was surprising how quickly
people came out of the woodwork,
1095
01:02:45,333 --> 01:02:48,378
other managers saying how
they could do so much better
1096
01:02:48,545 --> 01:02:51,506
if they had a big management
team behind them.
1097
01:02:53,467 --> 01:02:56,178
I'm pretty sure that she
knew we wanted her to work
1098
01:02:56,344 --> 01:03:00,974
with a bigger manager that had
a firm instead of, like, one person.
1099
01:03:01,183 --> 01:03:03,351
I'm getting kind of choked up, my throat.
1100
01:03:03,810 --> 01:03:07,981
It's like... No, no, it's just
that it's emotional for me,
1101
01:03:08,148 --> 01:03:10,817
because going back to
that time, it was difficult,
1102
01:03:11,318 --> 01:03:13,528
remembering it, and how I felt.
1103
01:03:15,822 --> 01:03:19,326
It was very painful. My band
was taken away from me.
1104
01:03:19,576 --> 01:03:22,579
I remember sitting in
on meetings and feeling...
1105
01:03:22,954 --> 01:03:26,583
incredibly little as the girls
sat on the edge of their seat
1106
01:03:26,875 --> 01:03:30,504
looking enthralled by these
new managers, all men,
1107
01:03:30,670 --> 01:03:33,507
not that that mattered, but
just like a new power base,
1108
01:03:33,673 --> 01:03:35,425
like this was going to be great,
1109
01:03:35,592 --> 01:03:38,553
that this was going to be,
like, change everything.
1110
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:41,431
It was horrible having them
say with the band there,
1111
01:03:41,598 --> 01:03:44,726
"Well, Ginger, we know you know
how to take a band from A to B,
1112
01:03:44,893 --> 01:03:48,688
and you do a great job. We
can take that band from B to Z."
1113
01:03:48,855 --> 01:03:53,735
We felt like it was going to
help us go to another level.
1114
01:03:54,027 --> 01:03:55,570
People that set all of it in motion,
1115
01:03:55,654 --> 01:03:57,488
they knew that my days would be numbered,
1116
01:03:57,572 --> 01:03:59,324
that anyone with any integrity,
1117
01:03:59,491 --> 01:04:02,744
you're not going to stick
around. Why would you?
1118
01:04:02,911 --> 01:04:05,872
I guess we hurt her. Must
have hurt her pretty badly,
1119
01:04:07,082 --> 01:04:09,668
because she just...
One day, she was gone.
1120
01:04:10,085 --> 01:04:12,921
It was no "fuck you" or
nothing, it was just gone.
1121
01:04:13,255 --> 01:04:14,714
How angry were you?
1122
01:04:15,882 --> 01:04:17,717
Angry enough to move to New York?
1123
01:04:20,345 --> 01:04:22,055
She was like the sixth Go-Go.
1124
01:04:23,098 --> 01:04:28,186
When she left, it really
turned into a big business.
1125
01:04:28,395 --> 01:04:30,104
It wasn't even that much fun anymore.
1126
01:04:30,188 --> 01:04:34,359
We just... That's all we knew
how to do, was be a Go-Go.
1127
01:04:36,611 --> 01:04:38,947
Gina was in our new manager's office,
1128
01:04:39,114 --> 01:04:41,365
supposedly a more professional
management company
1129
01:04:41,449 --> 01:04:44,399
who turned out to suck, we
should've just stuck with Ginger.
1130
01:04:45,245 --> 01:04:48,999
But, I guess Gina saw a
check that Charlotte got
1131
01:04:49,165 --> 01:04:51,501
and it was for, like,
a gazillion dollars.
1132
01:04:51,668 --> 01:04:54,462
And of course, Gina wasn't
getting a check like that.
1133
01:04:54,629 --> 01:04:56,256
I almost fell over.
1134
01:04:56,840 --> 01:05:00,760
He said, "See how much she makes?
That's 'cause she's a songwriter."
1135
01:05:02,762 --> 01:05:04,805
There are two ways you
make money out of a record.
1136
01:05:04,889 --> 01:05:07,239
You make it in the
recording and the publishing.
1137
01:05:07,851 --> 01:05:09,393
The person who writes the songs,
1138
01:05:09,477 --> 01:05:11,563
which is really the vehicle that you need
1139
01:05:13,607 --> 01:05:16,901
is going to make more money.
And that can cause problems.
1140
01:05:17,152 --> 01:05:18,736
You write a lot of the songs, right?
1141
01:05:18,820 --> 01:05:20,071
- Yeah.
- With Charlotte?
1142
01:05:20,238 --> 01:05:24,409
Charlotte writing "We Got the Beat"
all by herself, that song was huge.
1143
01:05:24,618 --> 01:05:27,245
It's like everyone wanted it
for commercials and movies
1144
01:05:27,329 --> 01:05:30,624
and TV shows, and I mean,
that's like cha-ching, cha-ching.
1145
01:05:30,790 --> 01:05:33,835
Songwriting was so important
to me, it was my identity.
1146
01:05:34,002 --> 01:05:36,880
That's why I held so close,
so dear to me and I didn't...
1147
01:05:37,047 --> 01:05:39,591
You know, you can't
take any part of this.
1148
01:05:39,758 --> 01:05:42,802
This is mine, you know, this is who I am.
1149
01:05:43,011 --> 01:05:45,513
I will still stand behind
the belief that songwriting
1150
01:05:45,597 --> 01:05:48,297
is a really specific skill
that many people don't have,
1151
01:05:48,391 --> 01:05:51,591
and it's a lot of extra hard work
that other people aren't doing.
1152
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:58,276
I'd made more money than
I'd ever imagined in my lifetime.
1153
01:05:58,860 --> 01:06:02,530
But I knew there was going to
be an issue in the discrepancy
1154
01:06:02,697 --> 01:06:05,450
between the highest
earner, who was Charlotte,
1155
01:06:05,617 --> 01:06:08,286
and the lowest earner, who was Gina...
1156
01:06:09,037 --> 01:06:11,330
and Belinda. I knew there
was gonna be a problem.
1157
01:06:11,414 --> 01:06:13,914
Most people think that
we're really rich right now,
1158
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:19,172
but... I don't... I know that
we're not rich right now!
1159
01:06:19,798 --> 01:06:22,092
I was too busy having a lot of fun,
1160
01:06:22,258 --> 01:06:25,512
and I just let the
others write the songs.
1161
01:06:25,970 --> 01:06:29,766
Gina would say to me, "This
is not fair," and, you know...
1162
01:06:30,684 --> 01:06:33,436
And I would say, "I
know it's not fair, but..."
1163
01:06:34,145 --> 01:06:37,440
I felt like, inside, I really
had no right to say anything,
1164
01:06:37,607 --> 01:06:39,651
because I was such a fuck-up.
1165
01:06:42,529 --> 01:06:45,198
What scared me was
an unhappy lead singer,
1166
01:06:45,365 --> 01:06:48,201
who pretty much made
the band into contenders,
1167
01:06:48,410 --> 01:06:50,995
feeling cheated and unappreciated.
1168
01:06:52,872 --> 01:06:57,544
It set up a vibe where I
started feeling very concerned
1169
01:06:57,711 --> 01:06:58,962
about our future.
1170
01:07:01,047 --> 01:07:03,383
And it's like, are you
fucking kidding me?
1171
01:07:03,550 --> 01:07:06,845
Now, we're already
having this be a problem?
1172
01:07:07,971 --> 01:07:11,975
The fighting and the real drugs
happen when we all get money,
1173
01:07:12,809 --> 01:07:13,810
you know?
1174
01:07:14,477 --> 01:07:16,396
It wrecks everything.
1175
01:07:18,314 --> 01:07:23,153
Walking around it's
clear that I'm worlds away
1176
01:07:23,361 --> 01:07:26,030
Charlotte was isolating quite a bit.
1177
01:07:26,448 --> 01:07:28,074
I spend a lot of time here.
1178
01:07:28,450 --> 01:07:32,662
I don't go out that often, because
I like it here a lot in my house.
1179
01:07:33,747 --> 01:07:36,833
I bought a house up in the
hills and I was by myself.
1180
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:38,585
It was a bad situation.
1181
01:07:39,461 --> 01:07:41,337
I was suffering,
1182
01:07:41,921 --> 01:07:44,466
and I didn't know who
to talk to or what to do.
1183
01:07:45,467 --> 01:07:47,260
No, we're just like sisters
1184
01:07:47,469 --> 01:07:50,472
and we're all looking out for, you know,
1185
01:07:50,847 --> 01:07:55,018
each other all the time, and
we all love each other very much.
1186
01:07:56,561 --> 01:07:59,689
We didn't communicate, and
then when we did communicate
1187
01:07:59,856 --> 01:08:03,193
we didn't do it in a loving,
sort of respectful way.
1188
01:08:03,693 --> 01:08:07,113
By 1984, things were
getting pretty frazzled with us.
1189
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:10,617
We'd still really never had
been given enough time
1190
01:08:10,784 --> 01:08:14,370
to write or recuperate or
anything. So, it was very tense.
1191
01:08:15,079 --> 01:08:18,625
Being in a band, you become
each other's best friends
1192
01:08:18,792 --> 01:08:20,794
and also each other's worst enemies.
1193
01:08:21,878 --> 01:08:26,382
It became a difficult place to
be, because I always wanted
1194
01:08:26,549 --> 01:08:28,009
to put out fires.
1195
01:08:28,843 --> 01:08:32,430
Somebody's not happy,
you know, fix this, fix, fix, fix,
1196
01:08:32,639 --> 01:08:34,599
you know, and have fun.
1197
01:08:35,433 --> 01:08:38,102
No matter how miserable
everyone is, have fun.
1198
01:08:45,777 --> 01:08:49,948
This is when we first got to
England, making the third record.
1199
01:08:50,365 --> 01:08:52,867
And this was the clown family.
1200
01:08:53,326 --> 01:08:55,829
We had something called the clown family
1201
01:08:56,037 --> 01:08:58,957
where everybody posed the
same way and put on a clown nose.
1202
01:09:00,208 --> 01:09:03,169
This is the clown family watching TV.
1203
01:09:07,006 --> 01:09:09,968
And here's the clown
family doing some blow.
1204
01:09:11,010 --> 01:09:12,679
Upon arrival in London.
1205
01:09:19,185 --> 01:09:22,981
The ultimate is the clown family
giving birth to another clown.
1206
01:09:23,398 --> 01:09:26,234
Except Jane was the other clown!
1207
01:09:26,401 --> 01:09:28,903
Every single person birthed Jane.
1208
01:09:30,530 --> 01:09:33,658
Like an old movie backdrop
1209
01:09:35,201 --> 01:09:38,079
The radio's blasting
1210
01:09:38,663 --> 01:09:40,707
We still managed to have a lot of fun,
1211
01:09:41,124 --> 01:09:43,918
despite what might have been going on.
1212
01:09:44,335 --> 01:09:48,673
She says "I just wanted to make you"
1213
01:09:49,340 --> 01:09:53,136
"I never meant to break you"
1214
01:09:53,344 --> 01:09:56,973
He says "Have some mercy on me"
1215
01:09:59,559 --> 01:10:04,981
"Do you have to be such a mercenary?"
1216
01:10:09,110 --> 01:10:12,906
I went into the studio when they
were recording the third album.
1217
01:10:13,197 --> 01:10:16,033
There was a famous scene of
one of the members vomiting on me,
1218
01:10:16,117 --> 01:10:19,203
you know, she'd had too much
to drink. I won't mention who,
1219
01:10:19,495 --> 01:10:22,624
but I was covered in vomit in the studio.
1220
01:10:23,041 --> 01:10:24,667
So, I knew stuff was going on.
1221
01:10:24,876 --> 01:10:26,628
Good evening, I'm Charlotte.
1222
01:10:26,961 --> 01:10:29,631
- Good evening, I'm Gina.
- Good evening, I'm Jane.
1223
01:10:29,839 --> 01:10:31,799
- I'm Kathy.
- Good evening, I'm Belinda,
1224
01:10:31,883 --> 01:10:34,552
- I'm The Go-Go's.
- No, I'm The Go-Go's.
1225
01:10:34,761 --> 01:10:37,263
- I'm The Go-Go's.
- No, we're all The Go-Go's.
1226
01:10:37,430 --> 01:10:38,514
Well, anyway...
1227
01:10:38,806 --> 01:10:42,310
We'd started writing
songs for the third record,
1228
01:10:42,518 --> 01:10:45,772
but Charlotte hit a
bit of a writing block.
1229
01:10:46,856 --> 01:10:50,485
It got harder to write,
actually. It prevented me.
1230
01:10:50,693 --> 01:10:53,738
I was really writing a lot,
because Charlotte was...
1231
01:10:54,322 --> 01:10:56,240
in a lot of trouble with the drugs.
1232
01:10:56,449 --> 01:11:00,119
When it goes dark, forget the night
1233
01:11:01,788 --> 01:11:05,041
There are people that
really loved that album,
1234
01:11:05,249 --> 01:11:07,835
but I can't even listen
to it because to me,
1235
01:11:08,419 --> 01:11:11,881
I was so miserable during
that time, oh, my God.
1236
01:11:12,507 --> 01:11:14,801
When it goes dark
1237
01:11:16,010 --> 01:11:17,679
Get me to bed
1238
01:11:17,845 --> 01:11:19,389
On that trip,
1239
01:11:19,806 --> 01:11:22,183
there was an implosion.
Jane got really upset.
1240
01:11:22,350 --> 01:11:24,394
Wait for the light of day
1241
01:11:25,144 --> 01:11:27,438
I think she felt frustrated,
probably, with me
1242
01:11:27,689 --> 01:11:29,639
and with wanting to have a bigger role.
1243
01:11:29,816 --> 01:11:32,860
I'm the only one you run
to The one you come to
1244
01:11:33,111 --> 01:11:35,071
The only one you can get to
1245
01:11:35,279 --> 01:11:37,699
I'm the only one for you
1246
01:11:37,907 --> 01:11:40,535
- I'm the only one - Only one for you
1247
01:11:40,743 --> 01:11:43,371
- I'm the only one - Only one for you
1248
01:11:43,579 --> 01:11:46,082
- I'm the only one - Only one for you
1249
01:11:46,290 --> 01:11:48,251
I'm the only one
1250
01:11:48,710 --> 01:11:51,379
When we were recording
the album, I had decided
1251
01:11:51,587 --> 01:11:53,505
that I wanted to sing
one song on the record,
1252
01:11:53,589 --> 01:11:55,257
and there was one song that I'd written
1253
01:11:55,341 --> 01:11:58,010
that was super personal to
me called "Forget That Day".
1254
01:11:58,094 --> 01:12:00,304
Then, I went to each girl and was like,
1255
01:12:00,513 --> 01:12:02,306
"Please, can I sing this one song?"
1256
01:12:02,515 --> 01:12:04,684
I remember that day
1257
01:12:06,019 --> 01:12:08,354
Wind pushing birds around
1258
01:12:08,771 --> 01:12:10,189
And she came to us...
1259
01:12:11,566 --> 01:12:13,192
and we just said, "No."
1260
01:12:13,443 --> 01:12:16,654
Belinda was the lead
singer, it just felt weird.
1261
01:12:16,863 --> 01:12:19,907
We decided that that
wasn't the way to go,
1262
01:12:20,074 --> 01:12:22,785
that we wanted to keep everybody
had their role within the band,
1263
01:12:22,869 --> 01:12:24,620
and that was the way it was going to be.
1264
01:12:24,704 --> 01:12:27,504
I don't really like to talk
about that, because it wasn't
1265
01:12:27,665 --> 01:12:30,960
like a unanimous thing in this band.
1266
01:12:31,544 --> 01:12:32,587
One of them said,
1267
01:12:32,754 --> 01:12:35,381
"What makes you think you're
good enough to sing a song?"
1268
01:12:35,465 --> 01:12:38,134
Which is something
I'll never forget hearing.
1269
01:12:38,843 --> 01:12:40,386
It was a huge betrayal,
1270
01:12:40,553 --> 01:12:42,930
and I did not know how to get past it.
1271
01:12:43,139 --> 01:12:44,557
I lost my heart
1272
01:12:44,766 --> 01:12:47,852
But I just said I hate heights
1273
01:12:48,061 --> 01:12:50,563
It never occurred to any of us...
1274
01:12:51,189 --> 01:12:54,317
that we have to sit down, and
how can we make this work?
1275
01:12:55,526 --> 01:12:58,237
But, no, nothing could
change, nobody could grow.
1276
01:12:58,404 --> 01:12:59,822
And I was part of it, too.
1277
01:12:59,989 --> 01:13:02,366
I left to get some work done
1278
01:13:02,575 --> 01:13:07,663
We made Belinda feel guilty
for being a star and a diva.
1279
01:13:11,084 --> 01:13:15,171
We made Jane feel like
what she wanted and needed
1280
01:13:15,630 --> 01:13:18,780
was not important enough for
us to even sit down and talk about.
1281
01:13:20,051 --> 01:13:23,346
We made Gina feel like what
she contributed wasn't enough.
1282
01:13:23,513 --> 01:13:25,598
You don't deserve to make as much.
1283
01:13:25,765 --> 01:13:28,142
Why'd you say you love me
1284
01:13:28,476 --> 01:13:31,562
And we couldn't see the pain
1285
01:13:31,854 --> 01:13:34,565
that Charlotte was walking around in.
1286
01:13:34,774 --> 01:13:37,026
Try to forget that day
1287
01:13:44,826 --> 01:13:49,455
I was always an optimist hoping
that we would keep things together.
1288
01:13:49,997 --> 01:13:52,750
And I don't know that
they recognized then,
1289
01:13:53,501 --> 01:13:56,671
and after the third album,
what they really had together.
1290
01:13:58,297 --> 01:14:01,175
Head over heels Where should I go
1291
01:14:01,384 --> 01:14:05,721
"Head Over Heels", we made a
video, it got released as a single.
1292
01:14:06,806 --> 01:14:08,599
The tour machine's picking up.
1293
01:14:08,891 --> 01:14:10,810
...out of sync
1294
01:14:15,314 --> 01:14:17,814
We were getting ready
to tour for the third record.
1295
01:14:18,025 --> 01:14:20,277
We were at rehearsal and
a call came in, it was like,
1296
01:14:20,361 --> 01:14:22,362
"Gina, your doctor's on
the phone." I was like...
1297
01:14:22,446 --> 01:14:24,574
We all sort of stopped,
like, what is this?
1298
01:14:24,740 --> 01:14:27,701
Gina had always been like
coming off stage, "I can't breathe,"
1299
01:14:27,785 --> 01:14:30,537
and we'd be like, "Oh, my
God, she's such a drama queen,"
1300
01:14:30,621 --> 01:14:34,375
like, no, absolutely like no
sympathy whatsoever for her.
1301
01:14:34,584 --> 01:14:36,002
Now what? Because...
1302
01:14:36,669 --> 01:14:40,631
she has been seeing this doctor
and that doctor and we're just like,
1303
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:41,841
"Oh, come on."
1304
01:14:42,049 --> 01:14:43,842
But as it turns out, she couldn't breathe
1305
01:14:43,926 --> 01:14:45,636
because she had a
hole in her heart and like,
1306
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:48,472
she wasn't getting enough
oxygen. Yeah, so our bad.
1307
01:14:48,639 --> 01:14:50,808
Gina was diagnosed
with a hole in her heart.
1308
01:14:51,017 --> 01:14:53,936
- She was going to have surgery.
- Heart surgery, what the fuck?
1309
01:14:54,020 --> 01:14:57,815
It was a little scary, but we dealt
with it with a lot of, like, humor.
1310
01:14:58,024 --> 01:15:03,070
Our humor was, you
know, always gallows-dark.
1311
01:15:03,321 --> 01:15:06,657
So, we decided to have
this final lost weekend
1312
01:15:06,824 --> 01:15:09,619
in Palm Springs together
just in case Gina croaked.
1313
01:15:09,827 --> 01:15:11,996
They were taking me
out on my last hurrah.
1314
01:15:15,166 --> 01:15:18,753
We rented, I think, a convertible
Jag and a convertible Cadillac.
1315
01:15:19,420 --> 01:15:21,970
Let's buy a bunch of drugs
and go out to the desert.
1316
01:15:23,507 --> 01:15:25,509
We had just like a shit ton of drugs,
1317
01:15:25,885 --> 01:15:29,347
and we're driving into Palm
Springs going 100 miles an hour.
1318
01:15:33,434 --> 01:15:38,356
It was a total weekend of
debauchery and drugs and drinking.
1319
01:15:39,982 --> 01:15:41,525
Sex
1320
01:15:42,818 --> 01:15:44,278
Fun
1321
01:15:45,571 --> 01:15:48,824
And we had a special rule that
Gina was not allowed to do cocaine,
1322
01:15:49,033 --> 01:15:51,577
she can only do booze,
Valium and mushrooms,
1323
01:15:51,786 --> 01:15:53,579
so you know, we were keeping her safe!
1324
01:15:53,663 --> 01:15:56,163
Because they didn't want
me to have a heart attack.
1325
01:16:09,345 --> 01:16:12,014
It did bring the band
together temporarily.
1326
01:16:13,140 --> 01:16:17,520
It's funny how you can feel so
isolated from people in the band,
1327
01:16:17,687 --> 01:16:21,232
and then in a minute, in a
second, you're family again.
1328
01:16:22,692 --> 01:16:25,361
We were really at odds,
and when I had that surgery
1329
01:16:25,528 --> 01:16:28,489
everybody sort of came
together for a while there.
1330
01:16:29,448 --> 01:16:30,908
We've gotten a lot of calls and letters
1331
01:16:30,992 --> 01:16:32,618
and your fans are real concerned.
1332
01:16:32,702 --> 01:16:34,953
If you could just give us
an update on your health?
1333
01:16:35,037 --> 01:16:36,789
I'm fine. My heart is better.
1334
01:16:36,998 --> 01:16:39,333
My doctor told me I
can do anything I like.
1335
01:16:39,500 --> 01:16:42,420
I can't wait to get out on tour
because I'm bored to death.
1336
01:16:44,505 --> 01:16:46,455
Well, I do want to talk about the tour.
1337
01:16:46,590 --> 01:16:49,040
What kind of tour sponsorship
are you considering?
1338
01:16:49,343 --> 01:16:51,637
Before the album was
released, that's kind of
1339
01:16:51,804 --> 01:16:54,432
when the publishing
thing really came to a head.
1340
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:57,977
We were called to a meeting at
the crappy management's office,
1341
01:16:58,144 --> 01:17:03,357
and it was stated all the
publishing needs to be split equally.
1342
01:17:04,483 --> 01:17:06,151
"And then, I said," Well, wait a minute,
1343
01:17:06,235 --> 01:17:07,945
this album is totally done."
1344
01:17:08,154 --> 01:17:11,365
"I totally agree to do
that for the next album,
1345
01:17:11,532 --> 01:17:14,785
but I'm not doing it for this album,
because I fucking worked my ass off."
1346
01:17:14,869 --> 01:17:17,704
And they're like, "Nope, you
gotta do it." I'm like, "I won't do it."
1347
01:17:17,788 --> 01:17:19,498
"You've gotta do it." "I won't do it."
1348
01:17:19,582 --> 01:17:21,416
And then, I just said,
"Fuck you, I quit."
1349
01:17:21,500 --> 01:17:23,100
And that's when I quit the band.
1350
01:17:24,795 --> 01:17:27,548
But, of course, I couldn't
leave the band yet
1351
01:17:27,715 --> 01:17:31,135
because we had a whole huge tour
planned to support the new album.
1352
01:17:31,344 --> 01:17:34,144
She told us that she was...
After the tour for Talk Show,
1353
01:17:34,263 --> 01:17:35,413
she was going to leave.
1354
01:17:35,556 --> 01:17:38,976
You guys have been
together now for quite a while.
1355
01:17:39,185 --> 01:17:41,479
Do you still all just
get along as friends?
1356
01:17:41,687 --> 01:17:42,938
Yeah.
1357
01:17:44,106 --> 01:17:46,108
There would be a lot of questions
1358
01:17:46,275 --> 01:17:49,111
about what our relationship
with each other was like.
1359
01:17:49,278 --> 01:17:51,739
"Oh, we love each
other. We're like sisters."
1360
01:17:51,906 --> 01:17:55,117
Yeah, like sisters that fucking
stab each other in the back.
1361
01:18:06,337 --> 01:18:08,137
It was a little toxic, shall we say.
1362
01:18:09,215 --> 01:18:11,717
But I know what you're doing
1363
01:18:11,926 --> 01:18:14,929
But the machine, Go-Go
machine, had to keep going.
1364
01:18:15,554 --> 01:18:17,264
Falling to ruin
1365
01:18:17,473 --> 01:18:20,184
You got your walls so high
1366
01:18:20,851 --> 01:18:22,728
Things were really coming apart.
1367
01:18:23,270 --> 01:18:25,564
There may be some explanation
1368
01:18:26,148 --> 01:18:28,818
This band is everything to me.
1369
01:18:28,984 --> 01:18:34,657
My driving focus was
to keep that shit together.
1370
01:18:34,949 --> 01:18:38,285
- I just want to turn
to you - Turn to you
1371
01:18:38,452 --> 01:18:41,497
- Come on let me turn
to you - Turn to you
1372
01:18:41,831 --> 01:18:45,459
There was a lot of crap
going on, and it felt like,
1373
01:18:45,668 --> 01:18:48,546
the dream of The
Go-Go's was slipping away,
1374
01:18:48,921 --> 01:18:52,842
and, of course, I more so felt
like my life was slipping away.
1375
01:18:54,510 --> 01:18:57,179
It has a lot to do
1376
01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:01,434
There were definitely times
when you really had to fake it
1377
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:02,726
to get through it.
1378
01:19:03,477 --> 01:19:06,313
We had this whole thing
that we called robo-Go-Go-ing,
1379
01:19:06,522 --> 01:19:08,983
where you would just
get out there on stage
1380
01:19:09,191 --> 01:19:11,944
and no one would fucking
know that you had just had
1381
01:19:12,111 --> 01:19:13,511
a screaming fight backstage.
1382
01:19:13,612 --> 01:19:16,824
You would just get out there
and be like... robo Go-Go!
1383
01:19:17,032 --> 01:19:18,868
I want to turn to you
1384
01:19:19,660 --> 01:19:22,413
Come on, let me turn to you
1385
01:19:22,663 --> 01:19:25,040
Please let me turn to you
1386
01:19:25,708 --> 01:19:28,043
During the tour, Jane
announced that she was leaving,
1387
01:19:28,127 --> 01:19:29,211
which I didn't believe.
1388
01:19:29,295 --> 01:19:32,631
And then, sure enough she
did and it was really devastating.
1389
01:19:35,134 --> 01:19:38,345
I felt completely
betrayed. I felt like...
1390
01:19:39,180 --> 01:19:42,516
she was breaking up
something that was so precious.
1391
01:19:42,725 --> 01:19:45,269
We knew we were in
trouble then, because, I mean,
1392
01:19:45,436 --> 01:19:49,148
she's an original member,
she's a key songwriter,
1393
01:19:49,356 --> 01:19:50,556
and she's irreplaceable.
1394
01:19:50,649 --> 01:19:52,526
It was like a hatchet
had come and just...
1395
01:19:52,610 --> 01:19:54,778
It was never going to
be the same after that.
1396
01:19:54,862 --> 01:19:58,073
That was it, really A piece
of the puzzle was missing.
1397
01:20:00,701 --> 01:20:04,914
I felt like the rat that had,
you know, left the sinking ship.
1398
01:20:06,540 --> 01:20:09,627
The Go-Go's as a unit worked.
1399
01:20:10,419 --> 01:20:13,756
And you take out a piece,
is the picture complete?
1400
01:20:15,174 --> 01:20:16,175
Maybe not.
1401
01:20:18,427 --> 01:20:21,722
I just thought this could
be the end of everything.
1402
01:20:22,181 --> 01:20:25,809
All I was, I was a Go-Go, that was all.
1403
01:20:26,268 --> 01:20:29,438
That meant, I could take care of my mom.
1404
01:20:30,231 --> 01:20:32,608
By this time, I'm supporting my mom.
1405
01:20:33,108 --> 01:20:36,612
It's easier to find a bass
player than it is a guitar player.
1406
01:20:36,820 --> 01:20:39,240
I'll play guitar, we'll
get a bass player.
1407
01:20:39,406 --> 01:20:41,656
Hundreds of girls wanted
to be in The Go-Go's.
1408
01:20:42,034 --> 01:20:43,077
Big surprise.
1409
01:20:45,496 --> 01:20:47,248
I really wanted Paula Jean,
1410
01:20:47,414 --> 01:20:49,666
and the other girls weren't
really agreeing with me,
1411
01:20:49,750 --> 01:20:51,794
but for some reason they acquiesced,
1412
01:20:52,002 --> 01:20:54,088
and Paula Jean became our bass player.
1413
01:20:55,965 --> 01:20:57,841
I felt like Dorothy walking into Oz,
1414
01:20:58,050 --> 01:21:00,844
because they were all
so much shorter than me.
1415
01:21:01,095 --> 01:21:02,513
I knew before I auditioned
1416
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:05,599
that the band was having problems,
because Jane quit the band,
1417
01:21:05,683 --> 01:21:08,769
and I had read enough and
followed them enough to know
1418
01:21:09,019 --> 01:21:12,523
that things weren't going
great interpersonally.
1419
01:21:13,649 --> 01:21:16,151
So, we started rehearsing
with Paula Jean,
1420
01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:18,279
getting ready to go to Rio.
1421
01:21:18,487 --> 01:21:20,823
We're playing the
biggest show of our life.
1422
01:21:21,532 --> 01:21:23,659
It's the Rock in Rio festival.
1423
01:21:24,410 --> 01:21:25,536
Belinda!
1424
01:21:25,744 --> 01:21:28,789
Are you... What are your
expectations towards the festival?
1425
01:21:29,039 --> 01:21:30,499
It should be a lot of fun.
1426
01:21:31,959 --> 01:21:35,212
I could tell that the joy
of them playing together
1427
01:21:35,379 --> 01:21:37,423
was not what it probably once was.
1428
01:21:37,881 --> 01:21:42,386
It felt to me like they
were all... trying to muster it
1429
01:21:42,845 --> 01:21:44,597
for the occasion.
1430
01:21:45,556 --> 01:21:48,517
In Rio, this is the height
of everybody's drug intake.
1431
01:21:48,726 --> 01:21:51,687
People driving around in cabs
searching for coke all night.
1432
01:21:52,271 --> 01:21:54,315
I didn't sleep for, like, a week.
1433
01:21:57,359 --> 01:22:01,405
I'm supposed to go to sound check,
and I went out to cop some dope.
1434
01:22:01,697 --> 01:22:04,033
I was late, and I had
to make up a big lie,
1435
01:22:04,199 --> 01:22:08,287
and that's another thing with
drugs, like, you become a big liar.
1436
01:22:09,455 --> 01:22:11,999
Charlotte was so out of control
1437
01:22:12,166 --> 01:22:14,042
that Ozzy Osbourne threw
her out of his dressing room.
1438
01:22:14,126 --> 01:22:15,626
Now that's pretty fucking bad.
1439
01:22:15,711 --> 01:22:18,672
Head over heels Where should I go
1440
01:22:18,881 --> 01:22:21,467
Can't stop myself Out of control
1441
01:22:21,675 --> 01:22:24,553
Head over heels No time to think
1442
01:22:24,762 --> 01:22:27,640
Looks like the whole world's out of sync
1443
01:22:29,767 --> 01:22:31,435
The Go-Go's were a family,
1444
01:22:31,769 --> 01:22:33,896
and, you know, I think
that Gina and Kathy
1445
01:22:34,063 --> 01:22:36,440
kind of had become
the caretakers in a way,
1446
01:22:36,857 --> 01:22:38,859
trying to hold it together.
1447
01:22:43,072 --> 01:22:46,575
Charlotte was there, but
you could tell just not there.
1448
01:22:48,952 --> 01:22:52,289
It was just getting to be
where it was unsustainable.
1449
01:22:57,002 --> 01:23:02,049
Paula goes, "You guys,
Charlotte's really in trouble."
1450
01:23:03,842 --> 01:23:06,595
What? New girl says what?
1451
01:23:07,221 --> 01:23:09,821
I said, "I just really feel
like she's going to die."
1452
01:23:11,892 --> 01:23:13,810
Paula came to me one
day and said, you know,
1453
01:23:13,894 --> 01:23:17,189
"Charlotte, I know a place where
you can go to get some help."
1454
01:23:17,356 --> 01:23:19,356
And I said, "What are you talking about?"
1455
01:23:19,650 --> 01:23:24,279
She told me about, you
know, a recovery hospital,
1456
01:23:24,571 --> 01:23:27,032
you know, for addicts.
1457
01:23:27,991 --> 01:23:30,119
And then, something shifted in me.
1458
01:23:31,412 --> 01:23:33,122
I went back to Los Angeles
1459
01:23:33,288 --> 01:23:36,458
and I checked myself into
rehab with Paula's help.
1460
01:23:36,959 --> 01:23:40,379
I'm not saying it was
easy, but I was dedicated.
1461
01:23:40,838 --> 01:23:44,633
And I'm forever grateful to her
for giving me that information,
1462
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:48,262
because it totally changed
my life and saved me.
1463
01:23:52,599 --> 01:23:56,687
When I got sober, it
was so amazing to be free
1464
01:23:56,854 --> 01:24:00,065
of that prison that I was living in.
1465
01:24:00,941 --> 01:24:04,945
As dedicated as I was
to that... To my band,
1466
01:24:05,112 --> 01:24:07,156
I was dedicated to myself.
1467
01:24:08,407 --> 01:24:11,057
When we started rehearsing
again for the fourth album,
1468
01:24:11,201 --> 01:24:14,621
I made the decision to
choose myself over the band.
1469
01:24:14,830 --> 01:24:17,180
It just wasn't working,
it wasn't going to work.
1470
01:24:17,374 --> 01:24:20,294
Paula was great, but she wasn't Jane.
1471
01:24:20,878 --> 01:24:23,380
The only decent song that came
out of it was "Mad About You."
1472
01:24:23,464 --> 01:24:25,340
They really liked "Mad About You."
1473
01:24:25,674 --> 01:24:28,802
It's a song that Paula
wrote for our band.
1474
01:24:29,094 --> 01:24:32,598
The relationships were just
disintegrating in the band.
1475
01:24:32,973 --> 01:24:36,810
Charlotte and I
discussed ending the band.
1476
01:24:39,730 --> 01:24:41,565
Gina and I are feeling more and more
1477
01:24:41,732 --> 01:24:44,610
like Charlotte and
Belinda are on one side,
1478
01:24:44,777 --> 01:24:46,677
and me and Gina are on the other side.
1479
01:24:49,823 --> 01:24:53,702
Her and Belinda called Kathy and
myself into management's office.
1480
01:24:54,787 --> 01:24:57,498
- I was like, "This is not good."
- It's not good.
1481
01:24:57,790 --> 01:25:00,834
Even now, I can't. Remembering
this makes me feel ill.
1482
01:25:01,627 --> 01:25:04,727
"We've decided to break up
the band," that was the first thing.
1483
01:25:05,255 --> 01:25:07,174
And Gina and I said, "You can't."
1484
01:25:07,341 --> 01:25:09,301
"You can't do that, it's our band too."
1485
01:25:09,927 --> 01:25:11,178
"Yes, we can."
1486
01:25:13,222 --> 01:25:18,977
Somebody said, "She writes
the hits and I am the voice."
1487
01:25:19,645 --> 01:25:21,595
"She's the voice, and I write the hits."
1488
01:25:23,440 --> 01:25:26,860
And Kathy and I were
fucking flabbergasted.
1489
01:25:27,069 --> 01:25:31,365
They completely freaked
out. Completely freaked out.
1490
01:25:31,698 --> 01:25:33,698
There was a lot of crying and screaming.
1491
01:25:33,826 --> 01:25:35,202
I definitely raged,
1492
01:25:35,410 --> 01:25:41,375
and then I dialed back the rage
and groveled and apologizing.
1493
01:25:41,959 --> 01:25:46,004
I wanted to kill both
of them. I really did.
1494
01:25:47,256 --> 01:25:48,656
After all we'd been through,
1495
01:25:48,757 --> 01:25:50,926
how could you fucking
dare say that to me?
1496
01:25:52,636 --> 01:25:54,596
I won't survive this if I stay here,
1497
01:25:54,847 --> 01:25:57,724
and I cannot risk using
and drinking again,
1498
01:25:57,933 --> 01:25:59,017
I cannot risk that.
1499
01:25:59,184 --> 01:26:00,978
What was horrible was like
1500
01:26:01,144 --> 01:26:04,398
going home from that
meeting just shattered.
1501
01:26:04,565 --> 01:26:06,441
And then, the phone rings,
1502
01:26:06,608 --> 01:26:10,112
and it's the guy from the
management company
1503
01:26:10,279 --> 01:26:14,116
and my heart just, like,
"They've changed their mind!"
1504
01:26:14,658 --> 01:26:16,326
And instead he goes,
1505
01:26:16,535 --> 01:26:18,787
"You're going to get a
call from the LA Times
1506
01:26:18,954 --> 01:26:21,204
to make a comment about
the band breaking up."
1507
01:26:21,790 --> 01:26:24,751
It's like, "What, are
you fucking kidding me?"
1508
01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:27,421
You know, it's been an hour.
1509
01:26:31,008 --> 01:26:33,927
Within months of me leaving,
the band ended up breaking up,
1510
01:26:34,136 --> 01:26:36,036
and I certainly wasn't happy about it,
1511
01:26:36,138 --> 01:26:38,140
but I also wasn't surprised either.
1512
01:26:39,683 --> 01:26:42,603
We didn't speak to each
other for five years after that.
1513
01:26:43,186 --> 01:26:48,275
Gina and Kathy, I didn't speak to.
Jane was off doing her solo record.
1514
01:26:48,483 --> 01:26:51,069
I felt the need to try something new.
1515
01:26:51,236 --> 01:26:54,197
I was also interested in
singing my own material.
1516
01:27:03,332 --> 01:27:05,375
I was used to being a big star,
1517
01:27:05,542 --> 01:27:07,753
and all of a sudden it
was like, "She sucks!"
1518
01:27:08,003 --> 01:27:11,131
I hated it so much,
and I was just so mad,
1519
01:27:11,340 --> 01:27:14,801
but now honestly, I really feel like
1520
01:27:14,968 --> 01:27:17,763
the person I am today would not exist
1521
01:27:17,930 --> 01:27:19,880
without all the failure I went through,
1522
01:27:19,973 --> 01:27:23,852
and all the success I ever had
never taught me one damn thing.
1523
01:27:24,061 --> 01:27:25,103
Never.
1524
01:27:26,730 --> 01:27:29,441
I tried so hard
1525
01:27:29,942 --> 01:27:34,613
to create another band with the chemistry
1526
01:27:34,821 --> 01:27:36,949
and the magic that The Go-Go's had,
1527
01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:40,285
and nothing I did seemed to work out.
1528
01:27:40,827 --> 01:27:42,162
I tried being a singer.
1529
01:27:42,329 --> 01:27:44,205
I never wanted to be
a singer, but I tried it.
1530
01:27:44,289 --> 01:27:46,249
I couldn't be a studio
player, because I didn't know
1531
01:27:46,333 --> 01:27:48,334
how to read music
and that wasn't my thing.
1532
01:27:48,418 --> 01:27:51,755
And so, I went out and
tried to get a solo deal.
1533
01:27:51,964 --> 01:27:55,258
I did one show at the Roxy and
got signed by Capitol Records,
1534
01:27:55,467 --> 01:27:57,177
which was great for a while.
1535
01:27:57,970 --> 01:27:59,638
And then after a few years,
1536
01:27:59,805 --> 01:28:02,181
it was almost like The Go-Go's
didn't even exist anymore.
1537
01:28:02,265 --> 01:28:03,565
It was only like, Belinda!
1538
01:28:05,102 --> 01:28:06,561
When The Go-Go's split up,
1539
01:28:06,728 --> 01:28:08,563
I guess everybody
went their separate ways,
1540
01:28:08,647 --> 01:28:11,149
but you're the only
one who really hit it big.
1541
01:28:11,316 --> 01:28:13,026
Why do you think that's the case?
1542
01:28:13,402 --> 01:28:15,502
Well, I think I definitely
had a head start
1543
01:28:15,654 --> 01:28:17,698
as being the focus of the band, which,
1544
01:28:17,864 --> 01:28:20,909
you know, people do tend to
focus on the lead singer of any band.
1545
01:28:20,993 --> 01:28:24,579
And, you know, that did
give me some advantages.
1546
01:28:25,539 --> 01:28:26,999
Belinda offered me a job.
1547
01:28:27,165 --> 01:28:30,293
She said, "Do you wanna tour
with me and write on my record?"
1548
01:28:30,460 --> 01:28:32,838
And I was so grateful
to her, because I...
1549
01:28:33,005 --> 01:28:34,923
That was still at that place in my life
1550
01:28:35,007 --> 01:28:37,718
where that was my identity, doing that,
1551
01:28:37,926 --> 01:28:41,805
and just beginning to
find out that that wasn't...
1552
01:28:42,014 --> 01:28:44,933
that wasn't the totality of who I am.
1553
01:28:45,684 --> 01:28:48,061
So, she gave me that bridge.
1554
01:28:49,354 --> 01:28:52,941
As they went on, Charlotte
was working with Belinda.
1555
01:28:53,191 --> 01:28:54,818
Jane is back in the fold.
1556
01:28:55,027 --> 01:28:57,070
Now, all of a sudden,
it's like, the three of them
1557
01:28:57,154 --> 01:28:58,739
are doing shit for Belinda.
1558
01:28:58,905 --> 01:29:02,659
I started feeling like it was a
vendetta against me and Gina.
1559
01:29:03,493 --> 01:29:04,494
It was...
1560
01:29:05,245 --> 01:29:06,580
It was horrible.
1561
01:29:08,582 --> 01:29:10,751
I just wanted to write and play drums.
1562
01:29:10,917 --> 01:29:12,753
I've written stuff for other people.
1563
01:29:13,336 --> 01:29:15,464
I had a song covered by Miley Cyrus,
1564
01:29:15,630 --> 01:29:17,674
and then four songs by Selena Gomez...
1565
01:29:18,216 --> 01:29:21,011
so I felt like, "Yeah, finally
getting what I deserve."
1566
01:29:23,096 --> 01:29:24,764
I've always known I had a book in me.
1567
01:29:24,848 --> 01:29:27,398
When I turned 40, I was
dropped by my record company
1568
01:29:27,559 --> 01:29:28,935
as a solo artist,
1569
01:29:29,144 --> 01:29:32,022
and that was actually
the beginning of, like,
1570
01:29:32,230 --> 01:29:34,280
soul searching and
what is this all about?
1571
01:29:34,524 --> 01:29:36,818
What were The Go-Go's
all about? Who am I?
1572
01:29:36,985 --> 01:29:41,239
With sobriety, my world is very
vast and bigger than it's ever been.
1573
01:29:41,448 --> 01:29:45,160
I think for me, there are a
lot of ego issues, to be honest.
1574
01:29:45,452 --> 01:29:49,623
A lot of slapping down I've needed,
1575
01:29:49,790 --> 01:29:53,210
and a lot of... I needed
a lot of humbling.
1576
01:29:53,502 --> 01:29:56,004
It's five people in this band and...
1577
01:29:58,131 --> 01:30:01,468
everybody was set on
their own sort of course.
1578
01:30:02,594 --> 01:30:04,387
But then we got back together.
1579
01:30:05,514 --> 01:30:07,265
Because the story never ends!
1580
01:30:08,100 --> 01:30:09,351
The story never ends.
1581
01:30:13,939 --> 01:30:16,566
Thank you for coming out tonight.
1582
01:30:22,906 --> 01:30:25,200
See the people walking down the street
1583
01:30:26,660 --> 01:30:30,288
As angry as I was when
they broke up the band,
1584
01:30:30,455 --> 01:30:31,873
I missed them.
1585
01:30:32,415 --> 01:30:36,336
Nobody really knows what
that felt like to be in The Go-Go's,
1586
01:30:36,711 --> 01:30:39,840
only four other people
know what that feels like.
1587
01:30:40,507 --> 01:30:41,675
And that's the bond.
1588
01:30:41,842 --> 01:30:47,139
Nothing has happened so
bad that it overshadows that.
1589
01:30:49,891 --> 01:30:52,643
I don't know how this keeps
going, I swear to Christ, I don't.
1590
01:30:52,727 --> 01:30:55,313
The Go-Go's day in Hollywood!
1591
01:31:01,319 --> 01:31:04,322
We are making Go-Go's
history with our debut
1592
01:31:04,865 --> 01:31:06,449
as Broadway songwriters.
1593
01:31:07,701 --> 01:31:11,496
You get older and you get wiser,
and you drop a lot of the bullshit.
1594
01:31:11,705 --> 01:31:14,291
We are a family, that's just what it is.
1595
01:31:14,708 --> 01:31:15,917
We got the beat
1596
01:31:16,084 --> 01:31:18,086
Everybody get on your feet
1597
01:31:18,253 --> 01:31:20,213
We know you can...
1598
01:31:20,463 --> 01:31:21,840
Can you drum?
1599
01:31:22,424 --> 01:31:23,717
Gina needs coffee.
1600
01:31:23,884 --> 01:31:26,428
- We used to have the
beat - We had the beat
1601
01:31:26,928 --> 01:31:29,306
I remember when we had
the beat! We got it back.
1602
01:31:29,514 --> 01:31:32,225
Everybody, we got the beat
1603
01:31:32,893 --> 01:31:35,020
We got the, we got the beat
1604
01:31:35,270 --> 01:31:38,148
- That was fantastic.
- That was amazing.
1605
01:31:38,732 --> 01:31:42,027
Oh, my God, do we have
the motherfucking beat.
1606
01:31:42,194 --> 01:31:43,862
- I love that.
- It was great.
1607
01:31:44,029 --> 01:31:45,571
That wasn't bad for not playing together
1608
01:31:45,655 --> 01:31:47,705
- a really long time.
- Yeah, next time...
1609
01:31:48,783 --> 01:31:51,733
Hey, it doesn't hurt to rehearse,
it only makes you tighter.
1610
01:31:52,662 --> 01:31:56,082
I think that The Go-Go's,
if you believe in karma,
1611
01:31:56,291 --> 01:31:59,211
there's a lot of karmic
ties in this band.
1612
01:31:59,711 --> 01:32:02,171
Just the fact that we've
been in each other's lives
1613
01:32:02,255 --> 01:32:04,674
for so many years, it has
to be to work out something.
1614
01:32:04,758 --> 01:32:07,719
Fair's fair, don't care
1615
01:32:07,928 --> 01:32:12,265
They may have control
but we're not scared
1616
01:32:13,433 --> 01:32:15,227
Zero fucks given
1617
01:32:15,435 --> 01:32:16,519
Oops.
1618
01:32:16,728 --> 01:32:20,232
About a year ago, I
went to a psychiatrist
1619
01:32:20,398 --> 01:32:23,109
who diagnosed me as being bipolar.
1620
01:32:23,318 --> 01:32:26,029
Wake up, can't you see
1621
01:32:26,238 --> 01:32:28,448
For the first time in my life I...
1622
01:32:28,657 --> 01:32:30,867
haven't thought of suicide in a year,
1623
01:32:31,034 --> 01:32:33,495
which is like, fucking
mind-blowing to me.
1624
01:32:33,662 --> 01:32:35,413
Do you want to decide
which key you like better?
1625
01:32:35,497 --> 01:32:37,123
- Yeah, that'd be good.
- Okay.
1626
01:32:37,290 --> 01:32:40,126
And luckily, The Go-Go's
have finally gotten to the point
1627
01:32:40,335 --> 01:32:43,171
where we actually can be
civil to each other and get along.
1628
01:32:43,255 --> 01:32:45,674
I can see the good in
everyone in the band.
1629
01:32:48,802 --> 01:32:53,515
There's a place for
us, don't look for a sign
1630
01:32:53,723 --> 01:32:55,684
Not on a map
1631
01:32:55,934 --> 01:32:58,103
It's a state of mind
1632
01:32:59,688 --> 01:33:01,606
This is club zero
1633
01:33:02,107 --> 01:33:03,775
Okay, so, verse or chorus?
1634
01:33:03,984 --> 01:33:06,569
We talked about things
we wanted to write about,
1635
01:33:06,778 --> 01:33:09,656
and we did, kind of
make a conscious decision
1636
01:33:09,823 --> 01:33:12,742
to try to write about, you
know, the place of women
1637
01:33:12,951 --> 01:33:14,995
and our future roles.
1638
01:33:15,161 --> 01:33:18,790
It's kind of a testament to
our longevity and our bond.
1639
01:33:18,957 --> 01:33:20,833
- Tenacity.
- And how we can work together.
1640
01:33:20,917 --> 01:33:23,267
That we've been able
to withstand it, I think...
1641
01:33:24,671 --> 01:33:27,465
- It was hard!
- We've been able to live through it!
1642
01:33:29,342 --> 01:33:31,803
- What were you saying, Gina?
- Wait a minute!
1643
01:33:32,637 --> 01:33:34,681
Okay, are we ready to go loud?
1644
01:33:34,889 --> 01:33:36,265
- Yeah, man.
- You wanna go loud?
1645
01:33:36,349 --> 01:33:38,393
One, two, a-one, two...
1646
01:33:44,816 --> 01:33:47,902
There's a place for
us, don't look for a sign
1647
01:33:48,111 --> 01:33:49,988
Not on a map
1648
01:33:50,196 --> 01:33:52,532
It's a state of mind
1649
01:33:53,450 --> 01:33:55,535
This is club zero
1650
01:33:57,787 --> 01:34:00,957
The rules they made are battle lines
1651
01:34:01,166 --> 01:34:04,002
The grand design is out of time
1652
01:34:04,210 --> 01:34:08,465
Hey, we've got something to say...
1653
01:34:08,673 --> 01:34:12,510
There was this power that we all felt,
1654
01:34:12,802 --> 01:34:16,348
of us together, doing what were doing.
1655
01:34:17,015 --> 01:34:23,146
We showed up as who we
were and just, against all odds,
1656
01:34:23,521 --> 01:34:25,231
busted through some ceilings.
1657
01:34:38,703 --> 01:34:40,162
I don't know what more they have to do
1658
01:34:40,246 --> 01:34:41,914
to get in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.
1659
01:34:41,998 --> 01:34:44,667
What the fuck? They're not?
1660
01:34:45,293 --> 01:34:47,337
Come on! Come on!
1661
01:34:48,129 --> 01:34:50,079
They're in my Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.
1662
01:34:56,805 --> 01:35:00,100
There's a place for
us, don't look for a sign
1663
01:35:00,350 --> 01:35:02,102
Not on a map
1664
01:35:02,685 --> 01:35:05,230
It's a state of mind
1665
01:35:05,939 --> 01:35:08,274
This is club zero
1666
01:35:09,984 --> 01:35:13,196
Time's up, it's the clarion call
1667
01:35:13,405 --> 01:35:17,534
'Cause zero hour is upon us all
1668
01:35:17,742 --> 01:35:19,786
Tick-tock, tick-tock
1669
01:35:22,414 --> 01:35:25,667
The rules they made are battle lines
1670
01:35:25,875 --> 01:35:28,962
The grand design is out of time
1671
01:35:29,170 --> 01:35:33,633
Hey, we've got something to say
1672
01:35:33,842 --> 01:35:35,593
Gonna make the world shake
1673
01:35:35,802 --> 01:35:38,263
Ready or not, here we are
1674
01:35:38,471 --> 01:35:41,641
Better get out of our way
1675
01:35:41,850 --> 01:35:44,894
Looking for heroes, we are club zero
1676
01:35:47,230 --> 01:35:49,065
- I love it.
- We did blow in our bras.
1677
01:35:49,149 --> 01:35:52,735
- We did blow and we gave birth.
- Yeah, it was time to have babies.
1678
01:35:52,902 --> 01:35:55,155
- Which one is that?
- She's having her baby.
1679
01:35:55,321 --> 01:35:56,865
Why am I always the baby?
1680
01:35:57,031 --> 01:35:59,158
You were always the baby
'cause you were the only one
1681
01:35:59,242 --> 01:36:00,952
that could fit between our legs.
1682
01:36:02,912 --> 01:36:05,748
Fair's fair, don't care
1683
01:36:05,957 --> 01:36:09,836
They may have control
but we're not scared
1684
01:36:11,212 --> 01:36:13,214
Zero fucks given
1685
01:36:15,258 --> 01:36:18,344
Wake up, can't you see
1686
01:36:18,511 --> 01:36:22,640
Heads up, we're the new MVPs
1687
01:36:22,849 --> 01:36:25,435
Of the twenty-first century
1688
01:36:27,645 --> 01:36:30,732
The rules they made are battle lines
1689
01:36:30,940 --> 01:36:34,027
The grand design is out of time
1690
01:36:34,319 --> 01:36:38,698
Hey, we've got something to say
1691
01:36:38,907 --> 01:36:40,617
Gonna make the world shake
1692
01:36:40,825 --> 01:36:43,453
Ready or not, here we come
1693
01:36:43,661 --> 01:36:46,748
You better get out of our way
1694
01:36:46,956 --> 01:36:49,834
We won't stop until we're done
1695
01:36:50,084 --> 01:36:53,087
Better get out of our way
1696
01:36:53,379 --> 01:36:59,010
Walking like heroes We are club zero
1697
01:37:16,903 --> 01:37:19,989
The rules they made are battle lines
1698
01:37:20,198 --> 01:37:23,326
The grand design is out of time
1699
01:37:23,535 --> 01:37:28,081
Hey, we've got something to say
1700
01:37:28,289 --> 01:37:29,749
Gonna make the world shake
1701
01:37:29,958 --> 01:37:32,752
Ready or not, here we come
1702
01:37:32,961 --> 01:37:36,047
You better get out of our way
1703
01:37:36,256 --> 01:37:39,092
We won't stop until we're done
1704
01:37:39,300 --> 01:37:42,387
Better get out of our way
1705
01:37:42,595 --> 01:37:45,598
Looking for heroes We are club zero
1706
01:37:45,807 --> 01:37:50,270
Walking like heroes We are club zero
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