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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,111 --> 00:00:12,678 Over here is really bad. 2 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,147 It breeds psychopaths. 3 00:00:16,717 --> 00:00:18,384 I've been jumped. 4 00:00:18,386 --> 00:00:20,386 He is breaking her neck. 5 00:00:22,022 --> 00:00:24,590 I had to get out of the building as quickly as I possibly could. 6 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,327 The dead can't rest. 7 00:00:28,329 --> 00:00:30,462 I'm convinced it was a homicide. 8 00:00:30,464 --> 00:00:33,232 He likes killing people. 9 00:00:33,234 --> 00:00:35,768 This is not a good situation. 10 00:00:35,770 --> 00:00:37,669 My name is Amy Allan. 11 00:00:37,671 --> 00:00:39,238 There's death here. 12 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:40,973 Don't wanna go down there. 13 00:00:40,975 --> 00:00:42,241 I see dead people. 14 00:00:42,243 --> 00:00:44,343 They hide in the walls and they watch. 15 00:00:44,345 --> 00:00:47,112 I speak to dead people... 16 00:00:47,114 --> 00:00:49,848 She's definitely a serial killer. 17 00:00:49,850 --> 00:00:51,717 ...and they speak to me. 18 00:00:51,719 --> 00:00:53,852 She's going to torture them. 19 00:00:53,854 --> 00:00:57,589 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 20 00:00:57,591 --> 00:00:59,725 They were all murdered. 21 00:00:59,727 --> 00:01:01,226 I rely on my partner. 22 00:01:01,228 --> 00:01:02,828 I'm Steve Di Schiavi. 23 00:01:02,830 --> 00:01:04,629 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 24 00:01:04,631 --> 00:01:07,365 So is this the only time you've been physically attacked? 25 00:01:07,367 --> 00:01:10,935 And I know every person, every house has secrets. 26 00:01:10,937 --> 00:01:14,940 There's no question in my mind that he was talking about Satan. 27 00:01:14,942 --> 00:01:16,642 It's my job to reveal them. 28 00:01:16,644 --> 00:01:18,277 Who do you think possessed you? 29 00:01:18,279 --> 00:01:20,446 But Steve and I never speak... 30 00:01:20,448 --> 00:01:22,514 We never communicate during an investigation. 31 00:01:22,516 --> 00:01:23,748 ...until the very end. 32 00:01:23,750 --> 00:01:25,350 Well, you're not gonna want to see this. 33 00:01:25,352 --> 00:01:27,452 When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 34 00:01:27,454 --> 00:01:28,987 Hell, no. 35 00:01:28,989 --> 00:01:30,589 Or time to get out. 36 00:01:30,591 --> 00:01:32,591 Everyone is in jeopardy. 37 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:40,074 OpenSubtitles.org AP stops working soon, but not for VIP members -> osdb.link/vip 38 00:01:47,140 --> 00:01:49,007 I'm out here in Sauk Centre, Minnesota. 39 00:01:49,009 --> 00:01:51,877 It's about 100 miles northwest of Minneapolis. 40 00:01:51,879 --> 00:01:53,645 I got called in by a woman named Kelley. 41 00:01:53,647 --> 00:01:56,481 Now she thought she was doing a good thing for her town 42 00:01:56,483 --> 00:01:58,750 by buying and restoring an historic hotel. 43 00:01:58,752 --> 00:02:00,952 But no good deed goes unpunished. 44 00:02:00,954 --> 00:02:03,154 Activity in the building is out of control, 45 00:02:03,156 --> 00:02:06,758 but she says she's not leaving no matter what, 46 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:10,195 so it's up to me and Amy to find a solution. 47 00:02:14,067 --> 00:02:16,368 Before Amy arrives, I clear the area 48 00:02:16,370 --> 00:02:20,105 of any leading information. 49 00:02:20,107 --> 00:02:21,639 This is a large space, 50 00:02:21,641 --> 00:02:25,444 and there are a lot of historical photos and antiques. 51 00:02:25,446 --> 00:02:29,514 I need to cover or remove each and every one of them. 52 00:02:29,516 --> 00:02:33,685 When I'm done, the location will be ready for tonight's walk. 53 00:02:46,534 --> 00:02:48,967 There's, like, a dead guy here. 54 00:02:48,969 --> 00:02:51,203 He's, like, being a stalker. 55 00:02:51,205 --> 00:02:56,274 All you see is a skeleton with, like, sharp teeth, 56 00:02:56,276 --> 00:02:58,543 and he has a woman, and he's holding her 57 00:02:58,545 --> 00:03:01,246 by the back of her head and neck. 58 00:03:04,151 --> 00:03:08,687 He indicated that he murdered her along with others. 59 00:03:08,689 --> 00:03:10,656 He is a killer. 60 00:03:17,497 --> 00:03:20,531 So, Kelley, when we spoke on the phone, 61 00:03:20,533 --> 00:03:21,633 you sounded really upset 62 00:03:21,635 --> 00:03:23,201 about the things that are happening here. 63 00:03:23,203 --> 00:03:25,037 I'm really glad you're here. 64 00:03:25,039 --> 00:03:29,507 The Palmer house is so incredibly important to me. 65 00:03:29,509 --> 00:03:32,377 I want it to be here for generations to come, 66 00:03:32,379 --> 00:03:35,580 and with the type of activity that's going on, 67 00:03:35,582 --> 00:03:37,683 it's become a real concern, 68 00:03:37,685 --> 00:03:42,454 and now I begin to wonder if it's even safe. 69 00:03:42,456 --> 00:03:44,590 What are some of the experiences people are having? 70 00:03:44,592 --> 00:03:47,192 There's been a lot of things that are going on, 71 00:03:47,194 --> 00:03:49,227 hearing footsteps, 72 00:03:49,229 --> 00:03:51,696 objects being moved, 73 00:03:51,698 --> 00:03:55,867 shadow figures, and, in some cases, 74 00:03:55,869 --> 00:03:59,137 people are being touched and pushed. 75 00:03:59,139 --> 00:04:01,540 I got to think, with all the activity that's going on, 76 00:04:01,542 --> 00:04:03,075 it's got to be bad for business. 77 00:04:03,077 --> 00:04:05,644 I definitely think it is. 78 00:04:05,646 --> 00:04:08,847 I've had guests that have left. 79 00:04:08,849 --> 00:04:12,917 It's frequent enough that I actually created these binders 80 00:04:12,919 --> 00:04:14,686 for guests to be able 81 00:04:14,688 --> 00:04:19,725 to write their experiences down themselves if they would like. 82 00:04:21,762 --> 00:04:25,897 I got to tell you, this is pretty interesting stuff. 83 00:04:25,899 --> 00:04:28,700 What about employees? Are they being affected? 84 00:04:28,702 --> 00:04:30,902 I've had employees that have quit 85 00:04:30,904 --> 00:04:34,706 and mood shifts happen. - Okay. 86 00:04:34,708 --> 00:04:37,509 They can become very quarrelsome, 87 00:04:37,511 --> 00:04:40,245 very argumentative with one another. 88 00:04:40,247 --> 00:04:42,414 And you think that has something to do with what's going on here? 89 00:04:42,416 --> 00:04:45,316 I definitely think it is. 90 00:04:45,318 --> 00:04:47,619 Is it affecting you at all? 91 00:04:47,621 --> 00:04:49,855 Sometimes, I feel a little anxious 92 00:04:49,857 --> 00:04:54,125 and really angry and short-tempered, 93 00:04:54,127 --> 00:04:58,396 but I can't imagine my life anywhere but here. 94 00:04:58,398 --> 00:04:59,731 It has my heart. 95 00:04:59,733 --> 00:05:02,934 I love it with every fiber of my being. 96 00:05:02,936 --> 00:05:06,138 I want to make it work, but I need it to be safe. 97 00:05:11,211 --> 00:05:13,545 I walk in here and my stomach drops, 98 00:05:13,547 --> 00:05:17,349 and I hear a woman crying and screaming. 99 00:05:19,753 --> 00:05:23,188 This living woman, she's just losing her... 100 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,160 The killer, the skeleton face dude, 101 00:05:29,162 --> 00:05:32,431 he's making me feel extremely stressed out. 102 00:05:35,669 --> 00:05:39,304 Also, the living people here will feel, 103 00:05:39,306 --> 00:05:42,207 sudden, extreme nausea 104 00:05:42,209 --> 00:05:44,576 and projectile vomiting. 105 00:05:49,616 --> 00:05:52,150 Okay, Kelley. So what's going gonna in here? 106 00:05:52,152 --> 00:05:54,786 There's just sometimes that I end up 107 00:05:54,788 --> 00:05:58,523 getting really sick with no explanation. 108 00:05:58,525 --> 00:06:00,692 Okay. What kind of sick? What are we talking about? 109 00:06:00,694 --> 00:06:05,397 Extreme nausea and terrible, terrible headaches. 110 00:06:05,399 --> 00:06:08,533 When you're away from here, does the symptoms go away? 111 00:06:08,535 --> 00:06:10,401 Yes, they do. 112 00:06:10,403 --> 00:06:11,669 Okay. Anything else? 113 00:06:11,671 --> 00:06:15,006 There's many times I'm hearing voices. 114 00:06:15,008 --> 00:06:17,275 Okay. So what kind of voices? 115 00:06:17,277 --> 00:06:18,743 Male, female. 116 00:06:18,745 --> 00:06:21,947 Sometimes, it's even children laughing and playing. 117 00:06:21,949 --> 00:06:24,949 Kelley, in the building here, I can hear people outside. 118 00:06:24,951 --> 00:06:27,419 I can hear people in the back, here in the kitchen. 119 00:06:27,421 --> 00:06:28,886 How do you know it's not that? 120 00:06:28,888 --> 00:06:32,023 There's many occasions when it's happened, 121 00:06:32,025 --> 00:06:36,194 and we're already closed for the night. 122 00:06:36,196 --> 00:06:37,963 Is there anything else going on in here? 123 00:06:37,965 --> 00:06:39,297 One time, actually, 124 00:06:39,299 --> 00:06:42,234 when I was just passing through the kitchen, 125 00:06:42,236 --> 00:06:46,772 this bowl on the end here flew 10 feet across the kitchen. 126 00:06:48,776 --> 00:06:51,442 Well, this can't really fall off of here. 127 00:06:51,444 --> 00:06:53,845 You're damn lucky that it's that and not a knife. 128 00:06:53,847 --> 00:06:55,513 My feelings exactly. 129 00:07:00,253 --> 00:07:03,988 I'm seeing this living woman 130 00:07:03,990 --> 00:07:06,591 being pushed out of here. 131 00:07:09,329 --> 00:07:12,664 But I'm hearing, "Thrown," 132 00:07:12,666 --> 00:07:17,268 and I see that the dead woman, 133 00:07:17,270 --> 00:07:19,304 that the skeleton-face guy killed, 134 00:07:19,306 --> 00:07:22,174 is the one who's doing it. 135 00:07:22,176 --> 00:07:25,577 I don't think she likes women very much. 136 00:07:28,348 --> 00:07:30,615 She's very tough. 137 00:07:30,617 --> 00:07:34,719 She's able to physically interact with the living. 138 00:07:34,721 --> 00:07:37,122 And, yeah, she doesn't like women. 139 00:07:42,529 --> 00:07:45,830 Okay, Kelley. What's going on down here? 140 00:07:45,832 --> 00:07:51,369 There's a very, very large black shadow 141 00:07:51,371 --> 00:07:54,539 that I've seen down here on multiple occasions. 142 00:07:54,541 --> 00:07:56,908 Can you describe what it looks like? 143 00:07:56,910 --> 00:08:00,378 Extremely tall, very broad-shouldered. 144 00:08:00,380 --> 00:08:03,948 Because of the sheer size, I tend to say man, 145 00:08:03,950 --> 00:08:05,650 but I don't know. 146 00:08:05,652 --> 00:08:07,518 You ever see him anyplace else in the building? 147 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,021 Sometimes upstairs. 148 00:08:10,023 --> 00:08:11,723 Okay. Anything else going on? 149 00:08:11,725 --> 00:08:13,791 Well, the reason I called you in for help 150 00:08:13,793 --> 00:08:17,595 was because I've been jumped. 151 00:08:17,597 --> 00:08:20,298 What do you mean? Like a spirit jumped you? 152 00:08:20,300 --> 00:08:23,501 - Yes. - So what was the feeling like? 153 00:08:23,503 --> 00:08:29,474 It was absolutely like somebody had complete control 154 00:08:29,476 --> 00:08:33,010 over my body. 155 00:08:33,012 --> 00:08:35,346 Did you get a sense of who or what it might be? 156 00:08:35,348 --> 00:08:37,182 It felt like a man. 157 00:08:37,184 --> 00:08:40,318 I don't think that he particularly cared for me. 158 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,487 That was as intense as it comes. 159 00:08:42,489 --> 00:08:43,955 So what do you think this thing wants? 160 00:08:43,957 --> 00:08:45,156 You have any idea? 161 00:08:45,158 --> 00:08:48,960 I sometimes wonder if it just wants me to leave. 162 00:08:48,962 --> 00:08:50,161 I'm not going anywhere. 163 00:08:50,163 --> 00:08:51,763 You're going to fight this. 164 00:08:51,765 --> 00:08:54,699 Every step of the way for as long as I have to. 165 00:08:59,639 --> 00:09:04,976 This guy with the skeleton-like face, 166 00:09:04,978 --> 00:09:06,778 I don't feel to comfortable here 167 00:09:06,780 --> 00:09:09,381 because I feel like 168 00:09:09,383 --> 00:09:12,584 I'm constantly having to push him away from me 169 00:09:12,586 --> 00:09:16,054 because he can jump people. 170 00:09:20,393 --> 00:09:22,661 So are you saying he's trying to jump you now? 171 00:09:22,663 --> 00:09:26,630 Yes, he's been trying to jump me the whole time, the whole night. 172 00:09:26,632 --> 00:09:29,934 Do you have any idea what he wants from the living? 173 00:09:29,936 --> 00:09:33,271 He indicated that now he's death, 174 00:09:33,273 --> 00:09:34,539 and he's enjoying that. 175 00:09:34,541 --> 00:09:36,674 He likes killing people, 176 00:09:36,676 --> 00:09:39,177 and he would like to continue doing that. 177 00:09:59,849 --> 00:10:02,517 So, Wyatt, I understand you live at the hotel. 178 00:10:02,519 --> 00:10:05,787 - How long has that been? - Been here around 7 months. 179 00:10:05,789 --> 00:10:07,388 Do you think this place is dangerous? 180 00:10:07,390 --> 00:10:09,124 I wouldn't like to say it was dangerous, 181 00:10:09,126 --> 00:10:10,391 but there has definitely been times 182 00:10:10,393 --> 00:10:11,660 where I've been a little worried. 183 00:10:11,662 --> 00:10:12,994 Okay. So if you're uncomfortable, 184 00:10:12,996 --> 00:10:14,662 could I assume you've had experiences? 185 00:10:14,664 --> 00:10:16,397 A few of them, yeah. Absolutely. 186 00:10:16,399 --> 00:10:17,932 I hear these banging sounds. 187 00:10:17,934 --> 00:10:20,735 It's almost like a 30-pound weight is being dropped. 188 00:10:20,737 --> 00:10:22,603 All right. So how do you know it's not guests? 189 00:10:22,605 --> 00:10:25,139 Steve, I've been in this building when I absolutely know 190 00:10:25,141 --> 00:10:28,376 there has been nobody else in the building with me. 191 00:10:28,378 --> 00:10:29,877 Okay. Anything else? 192 00:10:29,879 --> 00:10:31,346 I was sleeping one night. 193 00:10:31,348 --> 00:10:34,783 All of a sudden, I felt like somebody had laid in my bed 194 00:10:34,785 --> 00:10:36,017 and put their arm around me. - All right. 195 00:10:36,019 --> 00:10:38,753 So can you actually feel this person net to you? 196 00:10:38,755 --> 00:10:41,056 Yeah, and I could feel the fingertips 197 00:10:41,058 --> 00:10:42,457 run across my chest, 198 00:10:42,459 --> 00:10:44,225 and as it's touching me, I feel almost like 199 00:10:44,227 --> 00:10:46,361 being shocked by an electric fence. 200 00:10:46,363 --> 00:10:47,629 What'd you do? 201 00:10:47,631 --> 00:10:49,730 I actually had thought about climbing out of my window. 202 00:10:49,732 --> 00:10:51,766 I couldn't move, so I just kind of laid there, 203 00:10:51,768 --> 00:10:53,033 and I just kind of closed my eyes 204 00:10:53,035 --> 00:10:54,969 and just hoped that it would go away. 205 00:10:54,971 --> 00:10:56,371 All right. So anything else? 206 00:10:56,373 --> 00:10:57,739 So I went into the basement. 207 00:10:57,741 --> 00:11:01,475 As quick as snapping my fingers, something had entered me. 208 00:11:01,477 --> 00:11:04,712 The insides of me, it was almost like they had changed. 209 00:11:04,714 --> 00:11:06,448 My emotional state had changed. 210 00:11:06,450 --> 00:11:09,951 I felt like a sickness had just kind of embedded inside of me. 211 00:11:09,953 --> 00:11:13,254 I had to get out of the building as quickly as I possibly could. 212 00:11:13,256 --> 00:11:15,089 I know Kelley mentioned about an experience she had 213 00:11:15,091 --> 00:11:19,093 where she felt she actually got physically jumped by a spirit, 214 00:11:19,095 --> 00:11:20,928 and it sounds a lot like what you're talking about. 215 00:11:20,930 --> 00:11:22,430 You think that's what happened to you? 216 00:11:22,432 --> 00:11:24,766 - Yeah. Yeah, I do. - Okay. 217 00:11:24,768 --> 00:11:27,001 So you're hearing noises when people shouldn't be here. 218 00:11:27,003 --> 00:11:29,204 You're getting something crawling into bed with you. 219 00:11:29,206 --> 00:11:31,339 You're getting...sounds like jumped by a spirit 220 00:11:31,341 --> 00:11:32,740 in the basement, 221 00:11:32,742 --> 00:11:35,676 but yet you don't think it's dangerous here. 222 00:11:35,678 --> 00:11:38,913 Yeah, I can see why you'd think that that would be a problem, 223 00:11:38,915 --> 00:11:41,348 and, I, you know, sometimes, it does worry me. 224 00:11:41,350 --> 00:11:44,386 Are you not taking it as serious as you should? 225 00:11:44,388 --> 00:11:45,786 That's possible. 226 00:11:49,226 --> 00:11:55,163 The skeleton-face dude, he is very protective of this area, 227 00:11:55,165 --> 00:11:57,332 so I think that he would 228 00:11:57,334 --> 00:11:59,900 probably get physical with the living down here 229 00:11:59,902 --> 00:12:02,970 because he doesn't want them down here. 230 00:12:02,972 --> 00:12:05,406 Over here is really bad. 231 00:12:05,408 --> 00:12:10,278 People would be pushed, hit, slapped, punched. 232 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,046 I don't know how many people he's actually had 233 00:12:12,048 --> 00:12:15,717 to physically assault to get them out of here. 234 00:12:15,719 --> 00:12:18,620 It seems like he does more of the killing upstairs. 235 00:12:23,693 --> 00:12:26,995 Kelley is here all the time, and you don't get here that often. 236 00:12:26,997 --> 00:12:28,630 You know, with some of the stuff she talked about, 237 00:12:28,632 --> 00:12:30,998 it's pretty dangerous. - Yeah. That's true. 238 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,068 You know, the amount of time she spends here, that scares me. 239 00:12:34,070 --> 00:12:36,671 I'm concerned about something, you know, jumping on. 240 00:12:36,673 --> 00:12:39,073 I'm concerned about her bringing something home. 241 00:12:39,075 --> 00:12:41,943 - Have you had any experiences? - Yeah. 242 00:12:41,945 --> 00:12:44,411 We were downstairs with a group of people and just really, 243 00:12:44,413 --> 00:12:47,181 all of a sudden, it just turned black, 244 00:12:47,183 --> 00:12:49,083 couldn't really even see the hand in front of your face. 245 00:12:49,085 --> 00:12:50,785 It startled me. 246 00:12:50,787 --> 00:12:52,287 Now you say you were down there with a group. 247 00:12:52,289 --> 00:12:54,788 - What are you talking about? - There was an investigation. 248 00:12:54,790 --> 00:12:56,691 All right, so you had a paranormal investigative group 249 00:12:56,693 --> 00:12:58,827 in the building. - Yes. 250 00:12:58,829 --> 00:13:01,463 Is that something you regularly do here? Yeah. 251 00:13:01,465 --> 00:13:04,031 I gotta warn you, Amy's not gonna like that. 252 00:13:04,033 --> 00:13:05,866 All right. So any other experiences? 253 00:13:05,868 --> 00:13:08,769 Well, in this room, I was here one evening, 254 00:13:08,771 --> 00:13:11,972 and there was this sound of glasses clanking together, 255 00:13:11,974 --> 00:13:15,176 and a bottle on this back bar just burst on its own. 256 00:13:15,178 --> 00:13:17,445 I mean, is it possible that bottle already had a crack in it 257 00:13:17,447 --> 00:13:19,814 and just finally gave way? - I suppose it's possible. 258 00:13:19,816 --> 00:13:22,283 To me, was hard to explain. 259 00:13:22,285 --> 00:13:25,019 I've learned one thing from my partner is that 260 00:13:25,021 --> 00:13:26,988 when things get physical like they are here, 261 00:13:26,990 --> 00:13:28,823 it's only gonna get worse. 262 00:13:32,662 --> 00:13:35,930 Wow. Okay. There's a lot of residual here. 263 00:13:35,932 --> 00:13:37,932 A lot of residual. 264 00:13:37,934 --> 00:13:40,201 Now this is going back, and so I'm seeing, 265 00:13:40,203 --> 00:13:45,073 like, people drinking, partying, having a good time, 266 00:13:45,075 --> 00:13:50,211 and this looks like a long time ago. 267 00:13:50,213 --> 00:13:53,648 So how might all this residual affect living people? 268 00:13:53,650 --> 00:13:55,483 Wouldn't be surprised if the living are 269 00:13:55,485 --> 00:14:00,855 hearing the partying from way back in the day -- 270 00:14:00,857 --> 00:14:03,758 glasses clinging, chairs being moved, 271 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,826 like, stuff like that. 272 00:14:05,828 --> 00:14:08,663 Or they'll hear bits of conversation. 273 00:14:08,665 --> 00:14:13,034 Residual energy is funny because it can cause health problems. 274 00:14:13,036 --> 00:14:14,035 Like? 275 00:14:14,037 --> 00:14:16,170 Having flu symptoms or cold symptoms. 276 00:14:16,172 --> 00:14:17,539 Like, getting sick often. 277 00:14:19,843 --> 00:14:21,442 I talked to a bunch of people who spend time 278 00:14:21,444 --> 00:14:22,810 at the Palmer House... 279 00:14:22,812 --> 00:14:26,314 One time I was here, I heard a loud explosion, 280 00:14:26,316 --> 00:14:27,848 like a bomb went off. 281 00:14:27,850 --> 00:14:29,951 ...and all of them had strange things happen 282 00:14:29,953 --> 00:14:31,652 that they couldn't explain. 283 00:14:31,654 --> 00:14:34,522 I stayed overnight, third-floor room upstairs, 284 00:14:34,524 --> 00:14:38,393 and I had a big wicker chair move on its own. 285 00:14:38,395 --> 00:14:41,596 As a cop, I always look for witnesses whose stories match. 286 00:14:41,598 --> 00:14:43,131 And just about everyone here 287 00:14:43,133 --> 00:14:44,933 talked about seeing shadow figures. 288 00:14:44,935 --> 00:14:48,503 I can tell you about my most emotional, scary experience. 289 00:14:48,505 --> 00:14:49,737 One time, in the basement, 290 00:14:49,739 --> 00:14:52,072 I was shoved by a big black shadow figure. 291 00:14:52,074 --> 00:14:54,008 Can you describe what it looked like? 292 00:14:54,010 --> 00:14:56,277 An outline, a silhouette of a man in a suit 293 00:14:56,279 --> 00:14:57,811 with very broad shoulders, 294 00:14:57,813 --> 00:15:01,683 and his head went all the way up to the top of the doorway. 295 00:15:01,685 --> 00:15:03,551 Okay. 296 00:15:03,553 --> 00:15:06,854 There's just a lot of people. 297 00:15:06,856 --> 00:15:10,424 Kind of looked like shadow people, but they're not. 298 00:15:10,426 --> 00:15:12,427 I don't know what they're doing here. 299 00:15:12,429 --> 00:15:13,961 I don't know why. 300 00:15:13,963 --> 00:15:17,598 I would say, like, five or six. 301 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,834 It seems that they're men. 302 00:15:19,836 --> 00:15:27,775 They seem confused, and they seem a little crazy. 303 00:15:27,777 --> 00:15:29,510 How would the living be affected by them? 304 00:15:29,512 --> 00:15:34,982 I think being exposed to them would make a living person angry 305 00:15:34,984 --> 00:15:37,385 and kind of nuts. 306 00:15:50,500 --> 00:15:53,000 Look, this is a small town, and the Palmer House 307 00:15:53,002 --> 00:15:55,670 is probably the most important local landmark. 308 00:15:55,672 --> 00:15:58,205 So all the historian types know all about it. 309 00:15:58,207 --> 00:16:00,541 But one woman just called me back and says 310 00:16:00,543 --> 00:16:03,878 the man who owned the property before it became this hotel 311 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,180 has a story I'm definitely gonna wanna know about. 312 00:16:11,020 --> 00:16:12,286 So, Jill, thanks for reaching out to me. 313 00:16:12,288 --> 00:16:14,522 I appreciate that. Who was this guy? 314 00:16:14,524 --> 00:16:17,258 Yeah, that would have been Cassius Sprigg. 315 00:16:17,260 --> 00:16:19,660 He was one of the early pioneers in town. 316 00:16:19,662 --> 00:16:22,463 Okay. So what was so interesting about this guy? 317 00:16:22,465 --> 00:16:25,199 He was a soldier in one of the bloodiest battles 318 00:16:25,201 --> 00:16:27,068 between settlers and Native Americans. 319 00:16:27,070 --> 00:16:29,070 Okay. So now tell me about this battle. 320 00:16:29,072 --> 00:16:32,172 He was just, like, 15 years old when he fought in the battle 321 00:16:32,174 --> 00:16:33,875 that become known as the Battle of Ridgely. 322 00:16:33,877 --> 00:16:35,843 It's about 90 miles south of here. 323 00:16:35,845 --> 00:16:37,678 - And this kid was only 15? - Yes, he was. 324 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,480 That was not uncommon for that time. 325 00:16:39,482 --> 00:16:41,949 Okay. So how does this bloody battle end? 326 00:16:41,951 --> 00:16:44,251 Well, on December 26, 1862, 327 00:16:44,253 --> 00:16:47,388 38 Native Americans were hung. 328 00:16:47,390 --> 00:16:51,325 To this day, it's the largest mass execution in history. 329 00:16:51,327 --> 00:16:53,861 Jeez. 330 00:16:56,666 --> 00:17:00,168 I'm seeing a woman, and she is hanging herself. 331 00:17:03,406 --> 00:17:08,009 The skeleton-face guy, he is breaking her neck. 332 00:17:08,011 --> 00:17:10,277 He's directly involved. 333 00:17:10,279 --> 00:17:12,280 He's killing people, 334 00:17:12,282 --> 00:17:16,083 actually killing them. 335 00:17:16,085 --> 00:17:19,487 This land is very, very bad. 336 00:17:19,489 --> 00:17:21,956 It draws the dead in. 337 00:17:21,958 --> 00:17:26,427 The dead can't rest, so it's like a gathering place. 338 00:17:26,429 --> 00:17:28,796 It breeds psychopaths. 339 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:32,533 Okay. So now the war's over. 340 00:17:32,535 --> 00:17:34,468 When does Cassius get ahold of my client's property? 341 00:17:34,470 --> 00:17:36,304 He would have bought it in 1898. 342 00:17:36,306 --> 00:17:37,772 - Okay. - It was a hotel 343 00:17:37,774 --> 00:17:40,908 called the Sauk Centre House at the time. 344 00:17:40,910 --> 00:17:42,643 It was not a great investment. 345 00:17:42,645 --> 00:17:45,446 - Why? - On June 27, 1900, 346 00:17:45,448 --> 00:17:47,114 it burned completely to the ground. 347 00:17:47,116 --> 00:17:49,650 All right. This poor guy had the property 2 years and lost everything. 348 00:17:49,652 --> 00:17:51,853 Yes. Now, there have been several fires 349 00:17:51,855 --> 00:17:53,187 on that property over the years. 350 00:17:53,189 --> 00:17:54,655 You might want to look into that. 351 00:17:54,657 --> 00:17:56,424 That's interesting. Okay. I will. 352 00:17:56,426 --> 00:17:58,659 Okay. Any idea what started this fire? 353 00:17:58,661 --> 00:18:00,828 It started in the kitchen, they believe. 354 00:18:00,830 --> 00:18:02,063 - Anybody die? - No. 355 00:18:02,065 --> 00:18:03,865 There were 30 guests in the hotel at the time. 356 00:18:03,867 --> 00:18:05,199 There were no fatalities. 357 00:18:05,201 --> 00:18:06,466 Okay, but it's destroyed totally. 358 00:18:06,468 --> 00:18:08,669 - Completely. - What happens next? 359 00:18:08,671 --> 00:18:10,738 He collected the insurance money 360 00:18:10,740 --> 00:18:13,374 and then sold it to the family, the Palmers. 361 00:18:13,376 --> 00:18:16,310 Who built the hotel that's there today. Correct. 362 00:18:16,312 --> 00:18:18,078 Okay. So what happens to him after he sells the property 363 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:19,280 to the Palmers? 364 00:18:19,282 --> 00:18:21,149 Well, his fortune seemed to change after that. 365 00:18:21,151 --> 00:18:22,950 He went into banking. 366 00:18:22,952 --> 00:18:25,153 By the end of his life, he owned 12 banks. 367 00:18:25,155 --> 00:18:26,554 Okay. So he it turns out this fire 368 00:18:26,556 --> 00:18:28,355 might have been a good thing for him. 369 00:18:28,357 --> 00:18:30,424 You can look at it that way. 370 00:18:32,829 --> 00:18:34,695 I'm trying to figure out 371 00:18:34,697 --> 00:18:38,565 who this skeleton-face guy was when he was alive. 372 00:18:38,567 --> 00:18:42,737 He had a lot of money, something with a bank. 373 00:18:42,739 --> 00:18:46,107 I'm seeing a bank had a direct connection here. 374 00:18:46,109 --> 00:18:47,975 Do you know when this was? 375 00:18:47,977 --> 00:18:51,245 Around 1890. 376 00:18:51,247 --> 00:18:53,247 He's protecting something. 377 00:18:53,249 --> 00:18:55,650 I know that this is part of his secret. 378 00:18:59,021 --> 00:19:03,257 He admits to killing people when he was alive. 379 00:19:03,259 --> 00:19:05,660 He let that slip out. 380 00:19:05,662 --> 00:19:07,862 He's pissed. 381 00:19:11,667 --> 00:19:14,001 Jill said there were other fires on the property, 382 00:19:14,003 --> 00:19:15,703 and it turns out she's right. 383 00:19:15,705 --> 00:19:18,205 I'm headed over to meet with the city's former fire chief, 384 00:19:18,207 --> 00:19:19,673 who dug through the records for me 385 00:19:19,675 --> 00:19:22,243 and found four major fires on the land. 386 00:19:28,217 --> 00:19:29,550 Now, John, you mentioned on the phone 387 00:19:29,552 --> 00:19:31,018 that there were four major fires 388 00:19:31,020 --> 00:19:32,419 at the property I'm investigating. 389 00:19:32,421 --> 00:19:34,822 Now I know one happened in 1900. 390 00:19:34,824 --> 00:19:37,024 I know there's three more. Let's start with the first one. 391 00:19:37,026 --> 00:19:40,027 Okay. It was back in September of 1873. 392 00:19:40,029 --> 00:19:41,295 The fire was in the barn. 393 00:19:41,297 --> 00:19:43,965 They believe it had caught on fire 394 00:19:43,967 --> 00:19:47,000 from a cigar discarded into a bale of hay. 395 00:19:47,002 --> 00:19:48,969 All right. Was anybody injured or killed? 396 00:19:48,971 --> 00:19:50,905 No injured or nobody killed. 397 00:19:50,907 --> 00:19:54,108 All right, John. So what about the second fire? 398 00:19:54,110 --> 00:19:57,478 February of 1885, there was a large fire. 399 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:01,182 I'm not sure where or how it started. 400 00:20:01,184 --> 00:20:02,583 One oddity to it is that 401 00:20:02,585 --> 00:20:05,519 the current owner of that building at that time 402 00:20:05,521 --> 00:20:07,388 was the Sauk Centre Fire Chief. 403 00:20:07,390 --> 00:20:08,723 Jeez. Okay. 404 00:20:08,725 --> 00:20:11,391 So now we got three fires on my client's property. 405 00:20:11,393 --> 00:20:12,726 What about the fourth one? 406 00:20:12,728 --> 00:20:17,598 July 31, 1905. It happened at the Palmer House. 407 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:21,269 And as you can see, it looks pretty much as it does today. 408 00:20:21,271 --> 00:20:25,006 And it was quite big news at the time. 409 00:20:25,008 --> 00:20:27,741 According to this, boarders jumped from the windows? 410 00:20:27,743 --> 00:20:30,811 There was eight employees, I believe, on the second floor 411 00:20:30,813 --> 00:20:33,848 that were trapped which had to jump out of the building, 412 00:20:33,850 --> 00:20:37,017 onto a canopy. - Wow. 413 00:20:37,019 --> 00:20:39,353 Yeah, desperate times, desperate measures. 414 00:20:39,355 --> 00:20:41,622 You know, over a 30-year-period, you got four major fires, 415 00:20:41,624 --> 00:20:44,491 two really bad ones. - Yes. 416 00:20:44,493 --> 00:20:46,694 And I'm just shocked that nobody got injured or killed. 417 00:20:46,696 --> 00:20:48,328 It's amazing. 418 00:21:01,678 --> 00:21:04,311 Getting, like, a lot of smoke. 419 00:21:04,313 --> 00:21:07,114 Yeah, there's a lot of smoke up here. 420 00:21:07,116 --> 00:21:10,518 I'm seeing a woman, and she can't get out. 421 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,686 I don't know what this is. 422 00:21:12,688 --> 00:21:14,455 She is panicked. 423 00:21:14,457 --> 00:21:16,924 She feels very dizzy, lightheaded. 424 00:21:18,928 --> 00:21:20,927 She can't breathe. 425 00:21:26,536 --> 00:21:28,269 I- I don't feel good. 426 00:21:28,271 --> 00:21:29,904 This is bad. 427 00:21:37,013 --> 00:21:39,413 For more information about the show 428 00:21:39,415 --> 00:21:40,948 and if you need us to investigate 429 00:21:40,950 --> 00:21:42,883 unexplained activity in your home... 430 00:21:42,885 --> 00:21:46,420 Please visit travelchannel.com/thedeadfiles. 431 00:21:46,422 --> 00:21:48,489 Click on "Help me, Dead Files!" to submit your story, 432 00:21:48,491 --> 00:21:49,557 and we'll help if we can. 433 00:21:56,599 --> 00:21:59,266 So far, I've got employees and guests 434 00:21:59,268 --> 00:22:01,001 being tormented by bizarre activity 435 00:22:01,003 --> 00:22:05,239 on a property devastated by four mysterious fires. 436 00:22:05,241 --> 00:22:07,708 But I wanna see if there's anything else. 437 00:22:07,710 --> 00:22:10,477 Searching through old records, I find a local police officer 438 00:22:10,479 --> 00:22:12,613 named Jason Rosenburger. 439 00:22:12,615 --> 00:22:15,149 Turns out, Jason was found dead right down the street 440 00:22:15,151 --> 00:22:17,151 from the Palmer House. 441 00:22:17,153 --> 00:22:19,286 So I have a local reporter 442 00:22:19,288 --> 00:22:21,021 looking into this cop's death for me. 443 00:22:21,023 --> 00:22:23,490 He did some digging and said not only did he figure out 444 00:22:23,492 --> 00:22:24,792 what happened to this guy, 445 00:22:24,794 --> 00:22:27,294 but he found another death associated with the Palmer House 446 00:22:27,296 --> 00:22:28,896 that may help me out. 447 00:22:34,337 --> 00:22:37,171 Mark, this article I came across where the cop wound up dead, 448 00:22:37,173 --> 00:22:39,373 what were you able to find out? 449 00:22:39,375 --> 00:22:41,975 On April 17, 1929, 450 00:22:41,977 --> 00:22:44,745 Jason Rosenburger was a policeman, 451 00:22:44,747 --> 00:22:48,849 also night patrol, was found dead at City Hall. 452 00:22:48,851 --> 00:22:50,251 How far is this from the Palmer House? 453 00:22:50,253 --> 00:22:52,352 Approximately 500 feet. 454 00:22:52,354 --> 00:22:54,288 In fact, the last person to see him alive 455 00:22:54,290 --> 00:22:56,790 was the night clerk at the Palmer House. 456 00:22:56,792 --> 00:22:58,325 I know this guy got shot, 457 00:22:58,327 --> 00:22:59,860 so do we know where the bullet entered? 458 00:22:59,862 --> 00:23:02,396 Next to his nose, just right underneath the eye. 459 00:23:02,398 --> 00:23:04,031 So I'm assuming this is a homicide. 460 00:23:04,033 --> 00:23:05,099 Not necessarily. 461 00:23:05,101 --> 00:23:07,001 The coroner's jury came back 462 00:23:07,003 --> 00:23:09,536 and said it was accidental discharge of the firearm. 463 00:23:09,538 --> 00:23:11,071 All right. So if it's accidental, 464 00:23:11,073 --> 00:23:13,240 I guess a round from his firearm was missing, 465 00:23:13,242 --> 00:23:14,708 and that's what he shot himself with. 466 00:23:14,710 --> 00:23:17,344 Well, that's where it gets interesting, because the round 467 00:23:17,346 --> 00:23:20,548 that they found did not match his gun. 468 00:23:20,550 --> 00:23:23,751 Plus, his gun was still fully loaded. 469 00:23:23,753 --> 00:23:27,021 So how the hell is this an accidental shooting? 470 00:23:27,023 --> 00:23:28,289 That, I don't know. 471 00:23:28,291 --> 00:23:30,624 To me, it's a homicide. 472 00:23:30,626 --> 00:23:31,791 I mean, it sounds almost like 473 00:23:31,793 --> 00:23:34,161 there's something being covered up. 474 00:23:36,165 --> 00:23:37,831 Somebody lost their left eye. 475 00:23:37,833 --> 00:23:41,268 It's a male. 476 00:23:41,270 --> 00:23:44,905 This male is getting shot, definitely a shooting. 477 00:23:44,907 --> 00:23:48,141 The guy in there got shot in the eye. 478 00:23:48,143 --> 00:23:50,644 I'm not being able to see out of it. 479 00:23:50,646 --> 00:23:53,213 He could absolutely be in denial. 480 00:23:53,215 --> 00:23:55,081 So, Mark, you mentioned on the phone 481 00:23:55,083 --> 00:23:56,984 there was another death that might help my case. Yes. 482 00:23:56,986 --> 00:24:00,654 Back in 1870, there was a freed slave named Mose 483 00:24:00,656 --> 00:24:02,523 that lived and worked at the property 484 00:24:02,525 --> 00:24:03,757 you're investigating. 485 00:24:03,759 --> 00:24:05,993 It was called the Barnum Hotel at that time. 486 00:24:05,995 --> 00:24:07,528 So do we know anything about this guy Mose? 487 00:24:07,530 --> 00:24:10,130 Well, it was known that he was terrified of ghosts. 488 00:24:10,132 --> 00:24:13,734 And also, he had experienced some paranormal activity 489 00:24:13,736 --> 00:24:15,269 at the Barnum Hotel. 490 00:24:15,271 --> 00:24:17,004 Well, this is something new I've never come across. 491 00:24:17,006 --> 00:24:20,941 So back in 1870, somebody was having experiences 492 00:24:20,943 --> 00:24:23,177 on the property I'm investigating now. 493 00:24:23,179 --> 00:24:25,212 - Correct. - How did he die? 494 00:24:25,214 --> 00:24:28,215 A couple of local boys wanted to pull a prank on him, 495 00:24:28,217 --> 00:24:29,650 dress up as ghosts. 496 00:24:29,652 --> 00:24:32,920 They hid in the hotel, and everywhere he turned, 497 00:24:32,922 --> 00:24:34,855 he'd run into a ghost, and he got so scared 498 00:24:34,857 --> 00:24:36,757 he just ran off into the woods, 499 00:24:36,759 --> 00:24:38,559 and he ended up spending the night out there. 500 00:24:38,561 --> 00:24:41,161 It was a cold and rainy night. 501 00:24:41,163 --> 00:24:43,297 Right. So did this guy die out in the woods? 502 00:24:43,299 --> 00:24:44,898 No. They found him the next morning, 503 00:24:44,900 --> 00:24:47,968 and he was horribly sick, brought him back to the hotel, 504 00:24:47,970 --> 00:24:50,538 where he later died on your client's property. 505 00:24:56,646 --> 00:24:59,446 I saw several disturbing things during my walk, 506 00:24:59,448 --> 00:25:01,915 but two stood out. 507 00:25:01,917 --> 00:25:05,852 First, the shadows figures who hang out upstairs. 508 00:25:05,854 --> 00:25:07,054 There was one crawling on the ceiling. 509 00:25:07,056 --> 00:25:08,989 There was one crawling up the wall, 510 00:25:08,991 --> 00:25:13,660 and then others that were just really fragmented. 511 00:25:13,662 --> 00:25:18,532 One looked like he was dripping, like, chunks of tar. 512 00:25:18,534 --> 00:25:21,268 Next, I described the skeleton-face man 513 00:25:21,270 --> 00:25:24,204 attacking the living. 514 00:25:24,206 --> 00:25:26,406 There was this dead guy, 515 00:25:26,408 --> 00:25:29,610 and he was pretty tall, really thin, 516 00:25:29,612 --> 00:25:33,046 and he was punching a living person. 517 00:25:39,421 --> 00:25:41,488 Amy, is this what you saw? 518 00:25:41,490 --> 00:25:43,324 Yes, that's what I saw. 519 00:26:00,959 --> 00:26:04,428 Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 520 00:26:04,430 --> 00:26:06,630 we're ready to reveal our findings to each other 521 00:26:06,632 --> 00:26:09,299 and our clients for the first time. 522 00:26:09,301 --> 00:26:10,768 Well, Amy, I want you to meet Kelley. 523 00:26:10,770 --> 00:26:13,637 She owns the hotel and called us in because activity is bad 524 00:26:13,639 --> 00:26:15,072 and it's getting worse. 525 00:26:15,074 --> 00:26:16,407 I got to be up front with something. 526 00:26:16,409 --> 00:26:19,043 No matter what you say tonight, she ain't leaving. 527 00:26:21,179 --> 00:26:23,247 Wyatt's been living here for about 7 months, 528 00:26:23,249 --> 00:26:25,482 and he's already been through a hell of a lot, 529 00:26:25,484 --> 00:26:26,784 and I don't think it's going to take a lot 530 00:26:26,786 --> 00:26:28,385 to convince him to move. 531 00:26:28,387 --> 00:26:30,153 But they're hoping you can figure out a way 532 00:26:30,155 --> 00:26:32,722 to make this place safe. 533 00:26:32,724 --> 00:26:34,524 So now that Amy has met you guys, 534 00:26:34,526 --> 00:26:36,660 I'm going to ask her to describe her walk for us. 535 00:26:40,499 --> 00:26:44,301 I got that this was a gathering spot for the dead, 536 00:26:44,303 --> 00:26:47,203 and it has been for a very, very long time, 537 00:26:47,205 --> 00:26:49,139 and because of that, 538 00:26:49,141 --> 00:26:52,275 there is this huge collection 539 00:26:52,277 --> 00:26:56,680 of residual information. 540 00:26:56,682 --> 00:26:59,716 I think that living would maybe hear partying going on. 541 00:26:59,718 --> 00:27:02,019 You'd hear, like, glasses clinking, chairs moving, 542 00:27:02,021 --> 00:27:03,620 people walking around. 543 00:27:03,622 --> 00:27:07,957 If you're consistently exposed to this kind of energy, 544 00:27:07,959 --> 00:27:10,160 it can make somebody sick. 545 00:27:10,162 --> 00:27:11,495 Well, it's funny. 546 00:27:11,497 --> 00:27:13,664 You hit on some of the experiences they're having. 547 00:27:13,666 --> 00:27:15,165 Now, Wyatt, you mentioned it sounded like 548 00:27:15,167 --> 00:27:16,566 somebody dropped a... 549 00:27:16,568 --> 00:27:18,835 30-pound weight above me, and it's during a time 550 00:27:18,837 --> 00:27:21,772 when I know there's nobody in the hotel. 551 00:27:21,774 --> 00:27:25,041 - Kelley, you've heard footsteps. - That's very common. 552 00:27:25,043 --> 00:27:28,045 I've had other guests talk about that as well. 553 00:27:28,047 --> 00:27:32,482 Now, Kelley, and you as well, Wyatt, told me about being sick. 554 00:27:32,484 --> 00:27:37,854 There are some days that it's just unexplainable fatigue, 555 00:27:37,856 --> 00:27:39,323 the headache, nausea... 556 00:27:39,325 --> 00:27:41,658 ...feeling a little off-balance or dizzy. 557 00:27:41,660 --> 00:27:43,861 I get the exact same kind of feeling. 558 00:27:44,997 --> 00:27:47,664 Sick to my stomach, a little woozy. 559 00:27:47,666 --> 00:27:50,533 Amy, you said you got a lot of residual information. 560 00:27:50,535 --> 00:27:55,139 Well, this building we're sitting in was built in 1901. 561 00:27:55,141 --> 00:27:57,641 I have a photo right around when it was built. 562 00:27:57,643 --> 00:28:01,445 There's been a hotel on this property since at least 1867. 563 00:28:01,447 --> 00:28:03,780 You can imagine, there's been a lot of people over the years 564 00:28:03,782 --> 00:28:05,482 that have come through here. 565 00:28:05,484 --> 00:28:06,984 That totally makes sense 566 00:28:06,986 --> 00:28:09,319 with all the residual energy that's here. 567 00:28:12,557 --> 00:28:13,990 Okay, so what else? 568 00:28:13,992 --> 00:28:15,425 So I'm on the third floor. 569 00:28:15,427 --> 00:28:19,963 I'm literally tasting smoke in my mouth and coughing. 570 00:28:19,965 --> 00:28:23,033 Then I'm feeling this woman, but she was all alone 571 00:28:23,035 --> 00:28:25,235 and she was freaking out, so she was panicking, too, 572 00:28:25,237 --> 00:28:26,236 which was making it worse 573 00:28:26,238 --> 00:28:28,105 because she was breathing more in. 574 00:28:28,107 --> 00:28:29,573 There's something you should know about, Amy, 575 00:28:29,575 --> 00:28:30,874 about this place. 576 00:28:30,876 --> 00:28:32,976 There were four major fires here. 577 00:28:32,978 --> 00:28:34,511 Holy... 578 00:28:34,513 --> 00:28:36,480 First fire happened in 1873 579 00:28:36,482 --> 00:28:39,449 when this hotel was known as the Sauk Centre House. 580 00:28:39,451 --> 00:28:42,786 Here's a photo of the original hotel. 581 00:28:42,788 --> 00:28:44,788 Then in February of 1885, 582 00:28:44,790 --> 00:28:47,090 the Sauk Centre Hotel partially burned down. 583 00:28:47,092 --> 00:28:48,792 Records are kind of thin on that fire, 584 00:28:48,794 --> 00:28:51,595 so we don't know what happened, but nobody was hurt. 585 00:28:51,597 --> 00:28:53,197 The next fire was in 1900, 586 00:28:53,199 --> 00:28:54,564 and this one started in the kitchen. 587 00:28:54,566 --> 00:28:58,001 Once again, no casualties, but the building was destroyed. 588 00:28:58,003 --> 00:29:00,070 After that fire, this hotel was built. 589 00:29:00,072 --> 00:29:04,074 Now, the final fire happened in July of 1905 590 00:29:04,076 --> 00:29:05,776 at about 2:45 a.m., 591 00:29:05,778 --> 00:29:07,077 and that was the scariest one. 592 00:29:07,079 --> 00:29:10,346 They had 45 employees and guests in the hotel at the time. 593 00:29:10,348 --> 00:29:12,949 They were forced to evacuate, but eight of those people 594 00:29:12,951 --> 00:29:15,418 were trapped upstairs on the second floor. 595 00:29:15,420 --> 00:29:17,020 They had to jump out of the window... 596 00:29:17,022 --> 00:29:20,123 ...onto the old canvas tarps to escape. 597 00:29:20,125 --> 00:29:23,026 I actually have an article on that fire. 598 00:29:23,028 --> 00:29:24,894 Now, the building was badly damaged. 599 00:29:24,896 --> 00:29:27,831 But amazingly enough, again, there was no casualties. 600 00:29:27,833 --> 00:29:30,501 - That's a lot of fires. - I did not know that. 601 00:29:32,638 --> 00:29:36,272 So I'm in the dining room, and now I'm getting this guy. 602 00:29:36,274 --> 00:29:38,207 And he's shot in one of his eyes, 603 00:29:38,209 --> 00:29:40,244 'cause I couldn't see out of the eye. 604 00:29:40,246 --> 00:29:45,582 He is a dead person, but he's in denial. 605 00:29:45,584 --> 00:29:49,920 I did come across one individual that was shot in the eye, 606 00:29:49,922 --> 00:29:51,988 and his name was Jason Rosenburger. 607 00:29:51,990 --> 00:29:55,959 Yeah, he was a Sauk Centre policeman and a night watchman. Wow. 608 00:29:55,961 --> 00:29:58,929 April 17, 1929, his body was found in the old City Hall, 609 00:29:58,931 --> 00:30:00,463 less than 500 feet from here. 610 00:30:00,465 --> 00:30:04,000 In fact, the Palmer House Hotel was on Rosenburger's beat, 611 00:30:04,002 --> 00:30:05,669 and the night that he died, 612 00:30:05,671 --> 00:30:08,137 this was the last location he was seen alive. 613 00:30:08,139 --> 00:30:10,740 He had been shot in the face, and the bullet entered 614 00:30:10,742 --> 00:30:12,276 just underneath his eye. 615 00:30:12,278 --> 00:30:15,279 Now the coroner's jury decided it was an accidental death. 616 00:30:15,281 --> 00:30:16,813 I don't buy it. 617 00:30:16,815 --> 00:30:19,349 The bullet on the scene didn't match the bullets in his gun. 618 00:30:19,351 --> 00:30:22,819 Not only that, no round was discharged from his firearm. 619 00:30:22,821 --> 00:30:24,520 I'm convinced it was a homicide. 620 00:30:24,522 --> 00:30:25,689 I...Yeah. 621 00:30:25,691 --> 00:30:27,324 - You agree? - Absolutely. 622 00:30:27,326 --> 00:30:29,026 Whatever happened, happened so quick. 623 00:30:29,028 --> 00:30:33,564 He had no knowledge because he's in complete denial of his death. 624 00:30:33,566 --> 00:30:35,699 I- I didn't know any of this, 625 00:30:35,701 --> 00:30:39,169 and everything is so much more real. 626 00:30:44,243 --> 00:30:47,310 So another thing that I saw -- now we're going back up 627 00:30:47,312 --> 00:30:48,778 to the third floor, 628 00:30:48,780 --> 00:30:52,482 and I see about four to six shadow beings, 629 00:30:52,484 --> 00:30:55,785 and I knew pretty damn quickly 630 00:30:55,787 --> 00:30:59,122 that they were actually dead men, 631 00:30:59,124 --> 00:31:00,623 and the thing is, is that these are 632 00:31:00,625 --> 00:31:02,726 severely mentally ill people. 633 00:31:02,728 --> 00:31:07,230 I think the biggest problem with this for the living 634 00:31:07,232 --> 00:31:11,468 is that, when you're exposed to that kind of energy, 635 00:31:11,470 --> 00:31:16,106 you're going to start having behavioral changes yourself -- 636 00:31:16,108 --> 00:31:21,144 anger, acting kind of off would begin to happen. 637 00:31:21,146 --> 00:31:22,746 I've noticed that myself. 638 00:31:22,748 --> 00:31:24,480 In yourself? Even in myself. 639 00:31:24,482 --> 00:31:28,318 What kind of thoughts or emotions were you having? 640 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,587 A lot of anxiety, panicky, a lot of nervousness 641 00:31:31,589 --> 00:31:33,623 that came out of nowhere. 642 00:31:33,625 --> 00:31:36,326 There's days where all of the employees, 643 00:31:36,328 --> 00:31:39,162 there can just be very erratic, 644 00:31:39,164 --> 00:31:41,364 unreasonable behavior, actually. 645 00:31:41,366 --> 00:31:43,834 - Really? - You got a hotel here. 646 00:31:43,836 --> 00:31:45,168 Why don't you just sell it, right? 647 00:31:45,170 --> 00:31:48,604 But I want you to tell Amy how important this is. 648 00:31:48,606 --> 00:31:51,975 I have come to take it very personal and very seriously 649 00:31:51,977 --> 00:31:53,577 that this is my purpose, 650 00:31:53,579 --> 00:31:58,281 and my life is to be the steward for it now. 651 00:31:58,283 --> 00:31:59,649 And this is why, I told you at the beginning, 652 00:31:59,651 --> 00:32:01,150 she's not giving up. 653 00:32:01,152 --> 00:32:02,686 She's not moving. 654 00:32:02,688 --> 00:32:04,253 The crazy people that look like shadows, 655 00:32:04,255 --> 00:32:06,723 now would the living see that? 656 00:32:06,725 --> 00:32:08,725 Or is that something only you saw? 657 00:32:08,727 --> 00:32:12,796 I do think that the living would occasionally see shadow figures, 658 00:32:12,798 --> 00:32:16,433 and I had a sketch done of specifically what I saw. 659 00:32:27,813 --> 00:32:29,846 Here you go, guys. 660 00:32:35,954 --> 00:32:39,089 I gotta say that that's exactly kind of how it feels. 661 00:32:39,091 --> 00:32:42,092 It just feels like I'm falling apart. 662 00:32:42,094 --> 00:32:46,697 Just about everyone I talked to here has seen shadow figures. 663 00:32:46,699 --> 00:32:49,366 Other guests have shared with me... Right. 664 00:32:49,368 --> 00:32:50,600 ...lots of different things... Yeah. 665 00:32:50,602 --> 00:32:52,369 ...that are fairly extreme. 666 00:32:52,371 --> 00:32:54,271 What did you consider extreme? 667 00:32:54,273 --> 00:32:55,939 On the ceiling, for example. 668 00:32:55,941 --> 00:32:57,808 - Yeah. - Up the wall. 669 00:32:57,810 --> 00:32:59,175 That would be terrifying. 670 00:32:59,177 --> 00:33:01,511 Yeah. I would think so, yeah. 671 00:33:01,513 --> 00:33:03,580 Kelley here has seen specific shadow figures 672 00:33:03,582 --> 00:33:05,181 down here in this basement. 673 00:33:05,183 --> 00:33:06,316 He is so big. 674 00:33:06,318 --> 00:33:10,686 His mass is so wide and he's so tall. 675 00:33:10,688 --> 00:33:13,923 - Is that what she's seeing? - No. Mnh-mnh, no. 676 00:33:13,925 --> 00:33:16,392 - That's somebody else. - Ooh. 677 00:33:16,394 --> 00:33:18,261 - That's not good news. - Yeah. 678 00:33:20,999 --> 00:33:24,401 So one of the dead people that I encountered 679 00:33:24,403 --> 00:33:28,338 was a dead woman who was murdered. 680 00:33:28,340 --> 00:33:31,408 She was murdered by the guy that she was with, 681 00:33:31,410 --> 00:33:34,745 and he's here, and he's very active here, 682 00:33:34,747 --> 00:33:36,546 but I'll get to him in a second. 683 00:33:36,548 --> 00:33:40,050 The woman is most active in the kitchen. 684 00:33:40,052 --> 00:33:42,419 She can get physical with the living, 685 00:33:42,421 --> 00:33:45,455 and I did see her pushing a female 686 00:33:45,457 --> 00:33:47,223 out one of the doors out there. 687 00:33:47,225 --> 00:33:48,858 Like, just pushing her out. 688 00:33:48,860 --> 00:33:50,092 Now, Kelley, you weren't pushed, 689 00:33:50,094 --> 00:33:51,962 but you had something thrown at you. 690 00:33:51,964 --> 00:33:54,163 There was a mixing bowl. 691 00:33:54,165 --> 00:33:57,367 It flew off of the shelf it was on, 692 00:33:57,369 --> 00:33:59,502 about 10 feet through the air. 693 00:33:59,504 --> 00:34:02,172 So she's throwing... 694 00:34:02,174 --> 00:34:04,174 Now how about the guy that killed her? 695 00:34:04,176 --> 00:34:07,511 Yes. I'm gonna refer to him as "skeleton face." 696 00:34:07,513 --> 00:34:09,913 This is the male who killed this female. 697 00:34:09,915 --> 00:34:12,749 He is definitely the biggest threat. 698 00:34:12,751 --> 00:34:14,784 He's very, very powerful, 699 00:34:14,786 --> 00:34:17,654 very dangerous, and very secretive. 700 00:34:17,656 --> 00:34:21,591 There are a few things that I was able to get out of him. 701 00:34:21,593 --> 00:34:23,860 He was white, lots of money. 702 00:34:23,862 --> 00:34:27,564 I got that the 1890s were very important to him, 703 00:34:27,566 --> 00:34:30,000 absolute connection to this location. 704 00:34:30,002 --> 00:34:33,936 He made it very clear to me that he did a lot of bad things 705 00:34:33,938 --> 00:34:35,138 when he was alive, 706 00:34:35,140 --> 00:34:38,408 and that included killing several people. 707 00:34:38,410 --> 00:34:41,144 You know, it's not a lot to go on, but some of the stuff 708 00:34:41,146 --> 00:34:42,411 you were talking about reminds me 709 00:34:42,413 --> 00:34:44,481 of one of the past owners of this place. 710 00:34:44,483 --> 00:34:46,148 His name was Cassius Sprigg. 711 00:34:46,150 --> 00:34:48,451 You mentioned the 1890s were important to him. 712 00:34:48,453 --> 00:34:50,620 Now, he bought this property in 1898. 713 00:34:50,622 --> 00:34:52,956 Now, the guy you saw killed people when he was alive. 714 00:34:52,958 --> 00:34:55,725 Well, Cassius fought in the Dakota-Indian Wars. 715 00:34:55,727 --> 00:34:58,361 Now, we have no idea how many people Cassius killed, 716 00:34:58,363 --> 00:35:00,163 but we do know that the war ended 717 00:35:00,165 --> 00:35:02,431 with the execution of 38 people, 718 00:35:02,433 --> 00:35:04,501 and he was part of all this. 719 00:35:04,503 --> 00:35:06,236 To this day, it's the largest mass execution 720 00:35:06,238 --> 00:35:07,537 in American history. 721 00:35:07,539 --> 00:35:10,573 Now, Sprigg only owned this hotel for a few years. 722 00:35:10,575 --> 00:35:12,441 After he got out of the hotel business, though, 723 00:35:12,443 --> 00:35:16,880 he got into banking and made a small fortune. 724 00:35:16,882 --> 00:35:19,683 I've got a photo of him. 725 00:35:19,685 --> 00:35:22,586 Any chances this is who you saw? 726 00:35:22,588 --> 00:35:24,287 - Any idea? - I don't think so 727 00:35:24,289 --> 00:35:26,990 'cause he made it seem like the killings 728 00:35:26,992 --> 00:35:32,829 he did were not, like, public knowledge. 729 00:35:32,831 --> 00:35:35,164 Now you said you were concerned about the skeleton-face guy. 730 00:35:35,166 --> 00:35:36,266 Why is that? 731 00:35:36,268 --> 00:35:40,003 This guy is capable of mimicking voices, 732 00:35:40,005 --> 00:35:41,571 mimicking people. 733 00:35:41,573 --> 00:35:43,073 So like, a friend, coworker, 734 00:35:43,075 --> 00:35:44,507 when you think they're saying something 735 00:35:44,509 --> 00:35:47,143 and there's nobody there. 736 00:35:47,145 --> 00:35:50,213 That's a common occurrence for myself and other employees, 737 00:35:50,215 --> 00:35:53,416 and you keep trying to go find it, thinking, 738 00:35:53,418 --> 00:35:55,485 "Maybe somebody came back into the building," 739 00:35:55,487 --> 00:35:58,154 and then that's eventually realized 740 00:35:58,156 --> 00:35:59,956 that you're in the building alone. 741 00:35:59,958 --> 00:36:03,760 And what's probably the most frightening for living people 742 00:36:03,762 --> 00:36:06,897 is that he does know how to jump people. 743 00:36:06,899 --> 00:36:09,566 He was trying to do it to me throughout my walk, 744 00:36:09,568 --> 00:36:11,368 and he was extremely aggressive 745 00:36:11,370 --> 00:36:13,570 when I got down into the basement. 746 00:36:13,572 --> 00:36:17,374 My god. 747 00:36:17,376 --> 00:36:20,176 These are two people that feel like they've been jumped. 748 00:36:20,178 --> 00:36:22,111 I don't have a lot of memory when it happened to me, 749 00:36:22,113 --> 00:36:25,048 I just knew it wasn't me. 750 00:36:25,050 --> 00:36:26,515 Couldn't collect my thoughts. 751 00:36:26,517 --> 00:36:29,519 Like, I felt like this outer shell of me was doing something, 752 00:36:29,521 --> 00:36:32,122 and the inside was looking around going, 753 00:36:32,124 --> 00:36:34,257 "What is going on?" 754 00:36:34,259 --> 00:36:36,692 Something similar happened to Wyatt. 755 00:36:36,694 --> 00:36:39,328 I was down here in the basement and was just, like, 756 00:36:39,330 --> 00:36:40,864 a snap of my fingers, 757 00:36:40,866 --> 00:36:43,533 and I felt overcome and overwhelmed. 758 00:36:43,535 --> 00:36:47,871 He will do anything he can to instill fear 759 00:36:47,873 --> 00:36:49,872 and get the living out of here, 760 00:36:49,874 --> 00:36:53,076 and that can become physical or be physical -- 761 00:36:53,078 --> 00:36:56,012 slapping, pushing, punching. 762 00:36:56,014 --> 00:36:59,048 I saw him punching a male in the back, 763 00:36:59,050 --> 00:37:01,284 and I did have a sketch done. 764 00:37:01,286 --> 00:37:04,688 This should be interesting. 765 00:37:13,899 --> 00:37:16,366 Ooh. 766 00:37:24,375 --> 00:37:26,909 That's some picture, ain't it? 767 00:37:26,911 --> 00:37:29,712 I don't know even know what to say to that. 768 00:37:29,714 --> 00:37:32,181 My god. 769 00:37:32,183 --> 00:37:35,718 What's this speck behind it? What's this going on? 770 00:37:35,720 --> 00:37:36,919 This is a friend of his, 771 00:37:36,921 --> 00:37:38,788 and they're killing this guy here. 772 00:37:38,790 --> 00:37:40,557 He didn't want me to see that. 773 00:37:43,461 --> 00:37:45,995 He's gotta go. 774 00:37:45,997 --> 00:37:48,331 What the hell does this guy want from these guys? 775 00:37:48,333 --> 00:37:50,433 Basically, he wants to kill living people. 776 00:38:05,701 --> 00:38:06,999 Kelley, you made it very clear 777 00:38:07,001 --> 00:38:08,935 that leaving here is not an option for you. 778 00:38:08,937 --> 00:38:10,670 But after what we've heard tonight, 779 00:38:10,672 --> 00:38:14,073 it's crystal clear that it's not safe here for you, 780 00:38:14,075 --> 00:38:15,909 your employees or the guests. 781 00:38:15,911 --> 00:38:18,811 Now we're going to find out if there's any way to change that. 782 00:38:18,813 --> 00:38:20,880 For that answer, I'm going to turn it over to Amy. 783 00:38:25,086 --> 00:38:27,721 I have something to say really quickly. 784 00:38:27,723 --> 00:38:29,456 A few days after my walk, 785 00:38:29,458 --> 00:38:32,892 I see that you're doing an event here -- 786 00:38:32,894 --> 00:38:35,228 a ghost tour. - Yeah. 787 00:38:38,533 --> 00:38:39,933 How long have you been doing that? 788 00:38:39,935 --> 00:38:42,469 Probably for about 4 or 5 years now. 789 00:38:42,471 --> 00:38:45,604 You've noticed an increase in activity? 790 00:38:45,606 --> 00:38:49,742 I would say that's fair. 791 00:38:49,744 --> 00:38:51,678 When you're stirring up this kind of activity, 792 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,081 ...gonna go wrong. 793 00:38:55,083 --> 00:38:56,215 I gotta ask you. 794 00:38:56,217 --> 00:38:57,851 When we talked, you never really mentioned 795 00:38:57,853 --> 00:38:59,919 about this whole ghost-hunting thing. 796 00:38:59,921 --> 00:39:04,623 I never thought of that as being a contributing factor. 797 00:39:04,625 --> 00:39:08,661 A big reason of why I do what I do is the dead. 798 00:39:08,663 --> 00:39:13,666 These were people, and they still are people. 799 00:39:13,668 --> 00:39:18,605 It's easy, I think, for the living, um, 800 00:39:18,607 --> 00:39:24,411 to have a disassociation with that concept. 801 00:39:24,413 --> 00:39:28,081 My question is, what do you want to do? 802 00:39:28,083 --> 00:39:31,818 And do you want the dead here or not? 803 00:39:37,158 --> 00:39:41,360 If they need moving on, I'm in complete support of that. 804 00:39:41,362 --> 00:39:43,897 All right. So how do they get rid of 'em? 805 00:39:43,899 --> 00:39:46,499 You do have to find a male medium 806 00:39:46,501 --> 00:39:50,970 who is also a chaos magician. 807 00:39:50,972 --> 00:39:55,575 He is going to basically collect 808 00:39:55,577 --> 00:39:58,178 the dead skeleton guy 809 00:39:58,180 --> 00:40:02,248 and remove him from the location altogether. 810 00:40:02,250 --> 00:40:05,518 The other thing that does is that it literally 811 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:09,489 will clear the basement of not only him but also 812 00:40:09,491 --> 00:40:15,061 all the residual information and energy down here. 813 00:40:15,063 --> 00:40:21,467 So, like, this basement? Nothing. Nothing going on. 814 00:40:21,469 --> 00:40:23,937 So she won't see the shadows down here, won't get jumped. 815 00:40:23,939 --> 00:40:26,406 Yeah, that's right. 816 00:40:26,408 --> 00:40:30,076 On another day, the same medium could come back and remove 817 00:40:30,078 --> 00:40:34,413 all of the shadow people and the pissy lady. 818 00:40:34,415 --> 00:40:39,418 Unfortunately, the cop, nothing, at this point, can be done. 819 00:40:39,420 --> 00:40:42,355 Now, if you want to keep doing ghost tours, 820 00:40:42,357 --> 00:40:44,824 you can keep the residual, 821 00:40:44,826 --> 00:40:47,894 and there is a plethora of it. 822 00:40:47,896 --> 00:40:49,695 So, Kelley, when we first talked, 823 00:40:49,697 --> 00:40:52,631 you were just about ready to break down. 824 00:40:52,633 --> 00:40:56,536 Now it looks like you get to not only keep your place 825 00:40:56,538 --> 00:40:59,805 but find out a way to make it safe 826 00:40:59,807 --> 00:41:02,308 and still have it as an attraction for people 827 00:41:02,310 --> 00:41:05,178 that are into the ghost hunting. 828 00:41:05,180 --> 00:41:07,780 That would absolutely be ideal. 829 00:41:07,782 --> 00:41:11,050 Now the ultimate question -- Are you gonna do what she says? 830 00:41:11,052 --> 00:41:13,519 Yes, I absolutely will. 831 00:41:13,521 --> 00:41:14,453 So, Wyatt, what about you? 832 00:41:14,455 --> 00:41:15,922 Would you be willing to help out? 833 00:41:15,924 --> 00:41:18,457 Yeah, I'm here for her. 834 00:41:18,459 --> 00:41:25,764 I am so immensely pleased and relieved and grateful. 835 00:41:25,766 --> 00:41:29,669 I feel very optimistic about everything. 836 00:41:29,671 --> 00:41:31,270 It won't be easy 837 00:41:31,272 --> 00:41:33,206 removing the dangerous dead inside this hotel. 838 00:41:33,208 --> 00:41:36,075 But if Kelley contacts the medium, who is also 839 00:41:36,077 --> 00:41:38,477 a chaos magician, to banish the dead, 840 00:41:38,479 --> 00:41:40,879 her guests and employees will be safe, 841 00:41:40,881 --> 00:41:43,883 and she can keep running the hotel she loves so much. 842 00:41:44,305 --> 00:42:44,206 Please rate this subtitle at www.osdb.link/7taub Help other users to choose the best subtitles 66177

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