Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated:
1
00:00:10,111 --> 00:00:12,678
Over here is really bad.
2
00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,147
It breeds psychopaths.
3
00:00:16,717 --> 00:00:18,384
I've been jumped.
4
00:00:18,386 --> 00:00:20,386
He is breaking her neck.
5
00:00:22,022 --> 00:00:24,590
I had to get out of the building
as quickly as I possibly could.
6
00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,327
The dead can't rest.
7
00:00:28,329 --> 00:00:30,462
I'm convinced it was
a homicide.
8
00:00:30,464 --> 00:00:33,232
He likes killing people.
9
00:00:33,234 --> 00:00:35,768
This is not a good situation.
10
00:00:35,770 --> 00:00:37,669
My name is Amy Allan.
11
00:00:37,671 --> 00:00:39,238
There's death here.
12
00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:40,973
Don't wanna go down there.
13
00:00:40,975 --> 00:00:42,241
I see dead people.
14
00:00:42,243 --> 00:00:44,343
They hide in the walls
and they watch.
15
00:00:44,345 --> 00:00:47,112
I speak to dead people...
16
00:00:47,114 --> 00:00:49,848
She's definitely
a serial killer.
17
00:00:49,850 --> 00:00:51,717
...and they speak to me.
18
00:00:51,719 --> 00:00:53,852
She's going to torture them.
19
00:00:53,854 --> 00:00:57,589
But there's only one way to know
if my findings are real.
20
00:00:57,591 --> 00:00:59,725
They were all murdered.
21
00:00:59,727 --> 00:01:01,226
I rely on my partner.
22
00:01:01,228 --> 00:01:02,828
I'm Steve Di Schiavi.
23
00:01:02,830 --> 00:01:04,629
I'm a retired New York City
homicide detective.
24
00:01:04,631 --> 00:01:07,365
So is this the only time
you've been physically attacked?
25
00:01:07,367 --> 00:01:10,935
And I know every person,
every house has secrets.
26
00:01:10,937 --> 00:01:14,940
There's no question in my mind
that he was talking about Satan.
27
00:01:14,942 --> 00:01:16,642
It's my job to reveal them.
28
00:01:16,644 --> 00:01:18,277
Who do you think
possessed you?
29
00:01:18,279 --> 00:01:20,446
But Steve and I
never speak...
30
00:01:20,448 --> 00:01:22,514
We never communicate
during an investigation.
31
00:01:22,516 --> 00:01:23,748
...until the very end.
32
00:01:23,750 --> 00:01:25,350
Well, you're not gonna want
to see this.
33
00:01:25,352 --> 00:01:27,452
When we uncover if it's safe
for you to stay...
34
00:01:27,454 --> 00:01:28,987
Hell, no.
35
00:01:28,989 --> 00:01:30,589
Or time to get out.
36
00:01:30,591 --> 00:01:32,591
Everyone is in jeopardy.
37
00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:40,074
OpenSubtitles.org AP stops working soon,
but not for VIP members -> osdb.link/vip
38
00:01:47,140 --> 00:01:49,007
I'm out here
in Sauk Centre, Minnesota.
39
00:01:49,009 --> 00:01:51,877
It's about 100 miles northwest
of Minneapolis.
40
00:01:51,879 --> 00:01:53,645
I got called in
by a woman named Kelley.
41
00:01:53,647 --> 00:01:56,481
Now she thought she was
doing a good thing for her town
42
00:01:56,483 --> 00:01:58,750
by buying and restoring
an historic hotel.
43
00:01:58,752 --> 00:02:00,952
But no good deed
goes unpunished.
44
00:02:00,954 --> 00:02:03,154
Activity in the building
is out of control,
45
00:02:03,156 --> 00:02:06,758
but she says she's not leaving
no matter what,
46
00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:10,195
so it's up to me and Amy
to find a solution.
47
00:02:14,067 --> 00:02:16,368
Before Amy arrives,
I clear the area
48
00:02:16,370 --> 00:02:20,105
of any leading information.
49
00:02:20,107 --> 00:02:21,639
This is a large space,
50
00:02:21,641 --> 00:02:25,444
and there are a lot of
historical photos and antiques.
51
00:02:25,446 --> 00:02:29,514
I need to cover or remove each
and every one of them.
52
00:02:29,516 --> 00:02:33,685
When I'm done, the location will
be ready for tonight's walk.
53
00:02:46,534 --> 00:02:48,967
There's, like,
a dead guy here.
54
00:02:48,969 --> 00:02:51,203
He's, like, being a stalker.
55
00:02:51,205 --> 00:02:56,274
All you see is a skeleton
with, like, sharp teeth,
56
00:02:56,276 --> 00:02:58,543
and he has a woman,
and he's holding her
57
00:02:58,545 --> 00:03:01,246
by the back
of her head and neck.
58
00:03:04,151 --> 00:03:08,687
He indicated that he murdered
her along with others.
59
00:03:08,689 --> 00:03:10,656
He is a killer.
60
00:03:17,497 --> 00:03:20,531
So, Kelley, when we spoke
on the phone,
61
00:03:20,533 --> 00:03:21,633
you sounded really upset
62
00:03:21,635 --> 00:03:23,201
about the things that are
happening here.
63
00:03:23,203 --> 00:03:25,037
I'm really glad you're here.
64
00:03:25,039 --> 00:03:29,507
The Palmer house is
so incredibly important to me.
65
00:03:29,509 --> 00:03:32,377
I want it to be here
for generations to come,
66
00:03:32,379 --> 00:03:35,580
and with the type of activity
that's going on,
67
00:03:35,582 --> 00:03:37,683
it's become a real concern,
68
00:03:37,685 --> 00:03:42,454
and now I begin to wonder
if it's even safe.
69
00:03:42,456 --> 00:03:44,590
What are some of
the experiences
people are having?
70
00:03:44,592 --> 00:03:47,192
There's been a lot of things
that are going on,
71
00:03:47,194 --> 00:03:49,227
hearing footsteps,
72
00:03:49,229 --> 00:03:51,696
objects being moved,
73
00:03:51,698 --> 00:03:55,867
shadow figures,
and, in some cases,
74
00:03:55,869 --> 00:03:59,137
people are being
touched and pushed.
75
00:03:59,139 --> 00:04:01,540
I got to think, with all
the activity that's going on,
76
00:04:01,542 --> 00:04:03,075
it's got to be bad
for business.
77
00:04:03,077 --> 00:04:05,644
I definitely think
it is.
78
00:04:05,646 --> 00:04:08,847
I've had guests that
have left.
79
00:04:08,849 --> 00:04:12,917
It's frequent enough that
I actually created these binders
80
00:04:12,919 --> 00:04:14,686
for guests to be able
81
00:04:14,688 --> 00:04:19,725
to write their experiences down
themselves if they would like.
82
00:04:21,762 --> 00:04:25,897
I got to tell you, this is
pretty interesting stuff.
83
00:04:25,899 --> 00:04:28,700
What about employees?
Are they being affected?
84
00:04:28,702 --> 00:04:30,902
I've had employees
that have quit
85
00:04:30,904 --> 00:04:34,706
and mood shifts happen.
- Okay.
86
00:04:34,708 --> 00:04:37,509
They can become
very quarrelsome,
87
00:04:37,511 --> 00:04:40,245
very argumentative
with one another.
88
00:04:40,247 --> 00:04:42,414
And you think that has something
to do with what's going on here?
89
00:04:42,416 --> 00:04:45,316
I definitely think
it is.
90
00:04:45,318 --> 00:04:47,619
Is it affecting you at all?
91
00:04:47,621 --> 00:04:49,855
Sometimes,
I feel a little anxious
92
00:04:49,857 --> 00:04:54,125
and really angry
and short-tempered,
93
00:04:54,127 --> 00:04:58,396
but I can't imagine my life
anywhere but here.
94
00:04:58,398 --> 00:04:59,731
It has my heart.
95
00:04:59,733 --> 00:05:02,934
I love it with every fiber
of my being.
96
00:05:02,936 --> 00:05:06,138
I want to make it work,
but I need it to be safe.
97
00:05:11,211 --> 00:05:13,545
I walk in here
and my stomach drops,
98
00:05:13,547 --> 00:05:17,349
and I hear a woman
crying and screaming.
99
00:05:19,753 --> 00:05:23,188
This living woman,
she's just losing her...
100
00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,160
The killer,
the skeleton face dude,
101
00:05:29,162 --> 00:05:32,431
he's making me feel
extremely stressed out.
102
00:05:35,669 --> 00:05:39,304
Also, the living people here
will feel,
103
00:05:39,306 --> 00:05:42,207
sudden, extreme nausea
104
00:05:42,209 --> 00:05:44,576
and projectile vomiting.
105
00:05:49,616 --> 00:05:52,150
Okay, Kelley.
So what's going gonna in here?
106
00:05:52,152 --> 00:05:54,786
There's just sometimes
that I end up
107
00:05:54,788 --> 00:05:58,523
getting really sick
with no explanation.
108
00:05:58,525 --> 00:06:00,692
Okay. What kind of sick?
What are we talking about?
109
00:06:00,694 --> 00:06:05,397
Extreme nausea and terrible,
terrible headaches.
110
00:06:05,399 --> 00:06:08,533
When you're away from here,
does the symptoms go away?
111
00:06:08,535 --> 00:06:10,401
Yes, they do.
112
00:06:10,403 --> 00:06:11,669
Okay. Anything else?
113
00:06:11,671 --> 00:06:15,006
There's many times
I'm hearing voices.
114
00:06:15,008 --> 00:06:17,275
Okay.
So what kind of voices?
115
00:06:17,277 --> 00:06:18,743
Male, female.
116
00:06:18,745 --> 00:06:21,947
Sometimes, it's even children
laughing and playing.
117
00:06:21,949 --> 00:06:24,949
Kelley, in the building here,
I can hear people outside.
118
00:06:24,951 --> 00:06:27,419
I can hear people in the back,
here in the kitchen.
119
00:06:27,421 --> 00:06:28,886
How do you know
it's not that?
120
00:06:28,888 --> 00:06:32,023
There's many occasions
when it's happened,
121
00:06:32,025 --> 00:06:36,194
and we're already closed
for the night.
122
00:06:36,196 --> 00:06:37,963
Is there anything else
going on in here?
123
00:06:37,965 --> 00:06:39,297
One time, actually,
124
00:06:39,299 --> 00:06:42,234
when I was just passing
through the kitchen,
125
00:06:42,236 --> 00:06:46,772
this bowl on the end here
flew 10 feet across the kitchen.
126
00:06:48,776 --> 00:06:51,442
Well, this can't really
fall off of here.
127
00:06:51,444 --> 00:06:53,845
You're damn lucky that
it's that and not a knife.
128
00:06:53,847 --> 00:06:55,513
My feelings exactly.
129
00:07:00,253 --> 00:07:03,988
I'm seeing this living woman
130
00:07:03,990 --> 00:07:06,591
being pushed out of here.
131
00:07:09,329 --> 00:07:12,664
But I'm hearing, "Thrown,"
132
00:07:12,666 --> 00:07:17,268
and I see that the dead woman,
133
00:07:17,270 --> 00:07:19,304
that the skeleton-face guy
killed,
134
00:07:19,306 --> 00:07:22,174
is the one who's doing it.
135
00:07:22,176 --> 00:07:25,577
I don't think she likes
women very much.
136
00:07:28,348 --> 00:07:30,615
She's very tough.
137
00:07:30,617 --> 00:07:34,719
She's able to physically
interact with the living.
138
00:07:34,721 --> 00:07:37,122
And, yeah,
she doesn't like women.
139
00:07:42,529 --> 00:07:45,830
Okay, Kelley.
What's going on down here?
140
00:07:45,832 --> 00:07:51,369
There's a very,
very large black shadow
141
00:07:51,371 --> 00:07:54,539
that I've seen down here
on multiple occasions.
142
00:07:54,541 --> 00:07:56,908
Can you describe
what it looks like?
143
00:07:56,910 --> 00:08:00,378
Extremely tall,
very broad-shouldered.
144
00:08:00,380 --> 00:08:03,948
Because of the sheer size,
I tend to say man,
145
00:08:03,950 --> 00:08:05,650
but I don't know.
146
00:08:05,652 --> 00:08:07,518
You ever see him anyplace else
in the building?
147
00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,021
Sometimes upstairs.
148
00:08:10,023 --> 00:08:11,723
Okay.
Anything else going on?
149
00:08:11,725 --> 00:08:13,791
Well, the reason
I called you in for help
150
00:08:13,793 --> 00:08:17,595
was because I've been
jumped.
151
00:08:17,597 --> 00:08:20,298
What do you mean?
Like a spirit jumped you?
152
00:08:20,300 --> 00:08:23,501
- Yes.
- So what was the feeling like?
153
00:08:23,503 --> 00:08:29,474
It was absolutely like
somebody had complete control
154
00:08:29,476 --> 00:08:33,010
over my body.
155
00:08:33,012 --> 00:08:35,346
Did you get a sense of who
or what it might be?
156
00:08:35,348 --> 00:08:37,182
It felt like a man.
157
00:08:37,184 --> 00:08:40,318
I don't think that he
particularly cared for me.
158
00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,487
That was as intense
as it comes.
159
00:08:42,489 --> 00:08:43,955
So what do you think
this thing wants?
160
00:08:43,957 --> 00:08:45,156
You have any idea?
161
00:08:45,158 --> 00:08:48,960
I sometimes wonder if
it just wants me to leave.
162
00:08:48,962 --> 00:08:50,161
I'm not going anywhere.
163
00:08:50,163 --> 00:08:51,763
You're going to fight this.
164
00:08:51,765 --> 00:08:54,699
Every step of the way
for as long as I have to.
165
00:08:59,639 --> 00:09:04,976
This guy with
the skeleton-like face,
166
00:09:04,978 --> 00:09:06,778
I don't feel to comfortable here
167
00:09:06,780 --> 00:09:09,381
because I feel like
168
00:09:09,383 --> 00:09:12,584
I'm constantly having
to push him away from me
169
00:09:12,586 --> 00:09:16,054
because he can jump people.
170
00:09:20,393 --> 00:09:22,661
So are you saying
he's trying to jump you now?
171
00:09:22,663 --> 00:09:26,630
Yes, he's been trying to jump me
the whole time, the whole night.
172
00:09:26,632 --> 00:09:29,934
Do you have any idea
what he wants from the living?
173
00:09:29,936 --> 00:09:33,271
He indicated that
now he's death,
174
00:09:33,273 --> 00:09:34,539
and he's enjoying that.
175
00:09:34,541 --> 00:09:36,674
He likes killing people,
176
00:09:36,676 --> 00:09:39,177
and he would like
to continue doing that.
177
00:09:59,849 --> 00:10:02,517
So, Wyatt, I understand
you live at the hotel.
178
00:10:02,519 --> 00:10:05,787
- How long has that been?
- Been here around 7 months.
179
00:10:05,789 --> 00:10:07,388
Do you think this place
is dangerous?
180
00:10:07,390 --> 00:10:09,124
I wouldn't like to say
it was dangerous,
181
00:10:09,126 --> 00:10:10,391
but there has definitely
been times
182
00:10:10,393 --> 00:10:11,660
where I've been
a little worried.
183
00:10:11,662 --> 00:10:12,994
Okay.
So if you're uncomfortable,
184
00:10:12,996 --> 00:10:14,662
could I assume
you've had experiences?
185
00:10:14,664 --> 00:10:16,397
A few of them, yeah.
Absolutely.
186
00:10:16,399 --> 00:10:17,932
I hear these banging sounds.
187
00:10:17,934 --> 00:10:20,735
It's almost like a 30-pound
weight is being dropped.
188
00:10:20,737 --> 00:10:22,603
All right. So how do you know
it's not guests?
189
00:10:22,605 --> 00:10:25,139
Steve, I've been in this
building when I absolutely know
190
00:10:25,141 --> 00:10:28,376
there has been nobody else
in the building with me.
191
00:10:28,378 --> 00:10:29,877
Okay. Anything else?
192
00:10:29,879 --> 00:10:31,346
I was sleeping one night.
193
00:10:31,348 --> 00:10:34,783
All of a sudden, I felt like
somebody had laid in my bed
194
00:10:34,785 --> 00:10:36,017
and put their arm around me.
- All right.
195
00:10:36,019 --> 00:10:38,753
So can you actually feel
this person net to you?
196
00:10:38,755 --> 00:10:41,056
Yeah, and I could feel
the fingertips
197
00:10:41,058 --> 00:10:42,457
run across my chest,
198
00:10:42,459 --> 00:10:44,225
and as it's touching me,
I feel almost like
199
00:10:44,227 --> 00:10:46,361
being shocked
by an electric fence.
200
00:10:46,363 --> 00:10:47,629
What'd you do?
201
00:10:47,631 --> 00:10:49,730
I actually had thought about
climbing out of my window.
202
00:10:49,732 --> 00:10:51,766
I couldn't move, so I just
kind of laid there,
203
00:10:51,768 --> 00:10:53,033
and I just
kind of closed my eyes
204
00:10:53,035 --> 00:10:54,969
and just hoped that
it would go away.
205
00:10:54,971 --> 00:10:56,371
All right.
So anything else?
206
00:10:56,373 --> 00:10:57,739
So I went into the basement.
207
00:10:57,741 --> 00:11:01,475
As quick as snapping my fingers,
something had entered me.
208
00:11:01,477 --> 00:11:04,712
The insides of me, it was almost
like they had changed.
209
00:11:04,714 --> 00:11:06,448
My emotional state had changed.
210
00:11:06,450 --> 00:11:09,951
I felt like a sickness had just
kind of embedded inside of me.
211
00:11:09,953 --> 00:11:13,254
I had to get out of the building
as quickly as I possibly could.
212
00:11:13,256 --> 00:11:15,089
I know Kelley mentioned
about an experience she had
213
00:11:15,091 --> 00:11:19,093
where she felt she actually got
physically jumped by a spirit,
214
00:11:19,095 --> 00:11:20,928
and it sounds a lot like
what you're talking about.
215
00:11:20,930 --> 00:11:22,430
You think that's what
happened to you?
216
00:11:22,432 --> 00:11:24,766
- Yeah. Yeah, I do.
- Okay.
217
00:11:24,768 --> 00:11:27,001
So you're hearing noises
when people shouldn't be here.
218
00:11:27,003 --> 00:11:29,204
You're getting something
crawling into bed with you.
219
00:11:29,206 --> 00:11:31,339
You're getting...sounds like
jumped by a spirit
220
00:11:31,341 --> 00:11:32,740
in the basement,
221
00:11:32,742 --> 00:11:35,676
but yet you don't think
it's dangerous here.
222
00:11:35,678 --> 00:11:38,913
Yeah, I can see why you'd think
that that would be a problem,
223
00:11:38,915 --> 00:11:41,348
and, I, you know, sometimes,
it does worry me.
224
00:11:41,350 --> 00:11:44,386
Are you not taking it
as serious as you should?
225
00:11:44,388 --> 00:11:45,786
That's possible.
226
00:11:49,226 --> 00:11:55,163
The skeleton-face dude, he is
very protective of this area,
227
00:11:55,165 --> 00:11:57,332
so I think that he would
228
00:11:57,334 --> 00:11:59,900
probably get physical
with the living down here
229
00:11:59,902 --> 00:12:02,970
because he doesn't
want them down here.
230
00:12:02,972 --> 00:12:05,406
Over here is really bad.
231
00:12:05,408 --> 00:12:10,278
People would be pushed, hit,
slapped, punched.
232
00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,046
I don't know how many people
he's actually had
233
00:12:12,048 --> 00:12:15,717
to physically assault
to get them out of here.
234
00:12:15,719 --> 00:12:18,620
It seems like he does more
of the killing upstairs.
235
00:12:23,693 --> 00:12:26,995
Kelley is here all the time, and
you don't get here that often.
236
00:12:26,997 --> 00:12:28,630
You know, with some of
the stuff she talked about,
237
00:12:28,632 --> 00:12:30,998
it's pretty dangerous.
- Yeah. That's true.
238
00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,068
You know, the amount of time
she spends here, that scares me.
239
00:12:34,070 --> 00:12:36,671
I'm concerned about something,
you know, jumping on.
240
00:12:36,673 --> 00:12:39,073
I'm concerned about her
bringing something home.
241
00:12:39,075 --> 00:12:41,943
- Have you had any experiences?
- Yeah.
242
00:12:41,945 --> 00:12:44,411
We were downstairs with a group
of people and just really,
243
00:12:44,413 --> 00:12:47,181
all of a sudden,
it just turned black,
244
00:12:47,183 --> 00:12:49,083
couldn't really even see
the hand in front of your face.
245
00:12:49,085 --> 00:12:50,785
It startled me.
246
00:12:50,787 --> 00:12:52,287
Now you say you were
down there with a group.
247
00:12:52,289 --> 00:12:54,788
- What are you talking about?
- There was an investigation.
248
00:12:54,790 --> 00:12:56,691
All right, so you had
a paranormal investigative group
249
00:12:56,693 --> 00:12:58,827
in the building.
- Yes.
250
00:12:58,829 --> 00:13:01,463
Is that something
you regularly do here?
Yeah.
251
00:13:01,465 --> 00:13:04,031
I gotta warn you,
Amy's not gonna like that.
252
00:13:04,033 --> 00:13:05,866
All right.
So any other experiences?
253
00:13:05,868 --> 00:13:08,769
Well, in this room,
I was here one evening,
254
00:13:08,771 --> 00:13:11,972
and there was this sound
of glasses clanking together,
255
00:13:11,974 --> 00:13:15,176
and a bottle on this back bar
just burst on its own.
256
00:13:15,178 --> 00:13:17,445
I mean, is it possible that
bottle already had a crack in it
257
00:13:17,447 --> 00:13:19,814
and just finally gave way?
- I suppose it's possible.
258
00:13:19,816 --> 00:13:22,283
To me, was hard to explain.
259
00:13:22,285 --> 00:13:25,019
I've learned one thing
from my partner is that
260
00:13:25,021 --> 00:13:26,988
when things get physical
like they are here,
261
00:13:26,990 --> 00:13:28,823
it's only gonna get worse.
262
00:13:32,662 --> 00:13:35,930
Wow. Okay.
There's a lot of residual here.
263
00:13:35,932 --> 00:13:37,932
A lot of residual.
264
00:13:37,934 --> 00:13:40,201
Now this is going back,
and so I'm seeing,
265
00:13:40,203 --> 00:13:45,073
like, people drinking,
partying, having a good time,
266
00:13:45,075 --> 00:13:50,211
and this looks like
a long time ago.
267
00:13:50,213 --> 00:13:53,648
So how might all this
residual affect living people?
268
00:13:53,650 --> 00:13:55,483
Wouldn't be surprised
if the living are
269
00:13:55,485 --> 00:14:00,855
hearing the partying
from way back in the day --
270
00:14:00,857 --> 00:14:03,758
glasses clinging,
chairs being moved,
271
00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,826
like, stuff like that.
272
00:14:05,828 --> 00:14:08,663
Or they'll hear bits
of conversation.
273
00:14:08,665 --> 00:14:13,034
Residual energy is funny because
it can cause health problems.
274
00:14:13,036 --> 00:14:14,035
Like?
275
00:14:14,037 --> 00:14:16,170
Having flu symptoms
or cold symptoms.
276
00:14:16,172 --> 00:14:17,539
Like, getting sick often.
277
00:14:19,843 --> 00:14:21,442
I talked to a bunch of people
who spend time
278
00:14:21,444 --> 00:14:22,810
at the Palmer House...
279
00:14:22,812 --> 00:14:26,314
One time I was here,
I heard a loud explosion,
280
00:14:26,316 --> 00:14:27,848
like a bomb went off.
281
00:14:27,850 --> 00:14:29,951
...and all of them
had strange things happen
282
00:14:29,953 --> 00:14:31,652
that they couldn't explain.
283
00:14:31,654 --> 00:14:34,522
I stayed overnight,
third-floor room upstairs,
284
00:14:34,524 --> 00:14:38,393
and I had a big wicker chair
move on its own.
285
00:14:38,395 --> 00:14:41,596
As a cop, I always look for
witnesses whose stories match.
286
00:14:41,598 --> 00:14:43,131
And just about everyone here
287
00:14:43,133 --> 00:14:44,933
talked about seeing
shadow figures.
288
00:14:44,935 --> 00:14:48,503
I can tell you about my most
emotional, scary experience.
289
00:14:48,505 --> 00:14:49,737
One time, in the basement,
290
00:14:49,739 --> 00:14:52,072
I was shoved by
a big black shadow figure.
291
00:14:52,074 --> 00:14:54,008
Can you describe
what it looked like?
292
00:14:54,010 --> 00:14:56,277
An outline, a silhouette
of a man in a suit
293
00:14:56,279 --> 00:14:57,811
with very broad shoulders,
294
00:14:57,813 --> 00:15:01,683
and his head went all the way up
to the top of the doorway.
295
00:15:01,685 --> 00:15:03,551
Okay.
296
00:15:03,553 --> 00:15:06,854
There's just a lot
of people.
297
00:15:06,856 --> 00:15:10,424
Kind of looked like
shadow people, but they're not.
298
00:15:10,426 --> 00:15:12,427
I don't know
what they're doing here.
299
00:15:12,429 --> 00:15:13,961
I don't know why.
300
00:15:13,963 --> 00:15:17,598
I would say, like, five or six.
301
00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,834
It seems that they're men.
302
00:15:19,836 --> 00:15:27,775
They seem confused,
and they seem a little crazy.
303
00:15:27,777 --> 00:15:29,510
How would the living
be affected by them?
304
00:15:29,512 --> 00:15:34,982
I think being exposed to them
would make a living person angry
305
00:15:34,984 --> 00:15:37,385
and kind of nuts.
306
00:15:50,500 --> 00:15:53,000
Look, this is a small town,
and the Palmer House
307
00:15:53,002 --> 00:15:55,670
is probably the most important
local landmark.
308
00:15:55,672 --> 00:15:58,205
So all the historian types
know all about it.
309
00:15:58,207 --> 00:16:00,541
But one woman
just called me back and says
310
00:16:00,543 --> 00:16:03,878
the man who owned the property
before it became this hotel
311
00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,180
has a story I'm definitely
gonna wanna know about.
312
00:16:11,020 --> 00:16:12,286
So, Jill, thanks
for reaching out to me.
313
00:16:12,288 --> 00:16:14,522
I appreciate that.
Who was this guy?
314
00:16:14,524 --> 00:16:17,258
Yeah, that would have been
Cassius Sprigg.
315
00:16:17,260 --> 00:16:19,660
He was one of
the early pioneers in town.
316
00:16:19,662 --> 00:16:22,463
Okay. So what was so interesting
about this guy?
317
00:16:22,465 --> 00:16:25,199
He was a soldier in one of
the bloodiest battles
318
00:16:25,201 --> 00:16:27,068
between settlers
and Native Americans.
319
00:16:27,070 --> 00:16:29,070
Okay. So now tell me about
this battle.
320
00:16:29,072 --> 00:16:32,172
He was just, like, 15 years old
when he fought in the battle
321
00:16:32,174 --> 00:16:33,875
that become known
as the Battle of Ridgely.
322
00:16:33,877 --> 00:16:35,843
It's about 90 miles south
of here.
323
00:16:35,845 --> 00:16:37,678
- And this kid was only 15?
- Yes, he was.
324
00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,480
That was not uncommon
for that time.
325
00:16:39,482 --> 00:16:41,949
Okay. So how does this
bloody battle end?
326
00:16:41,951 --> 00:16:44,251
Well, on December 26, 1862,
327
00:16:44,253 --> 00:16:47,388
38 Native Americans
were hung.
328
00:16:47,390 --> 00:16:51,325
To this day, it's the largest
mass execution in history.
329
00:16:51,327 --> 00:16:53,861
Jeez.
330
00:16:56,666 --> 00:17:00,168
I'm seeing a woman,
and she is hanging herself.
331
00:17:03,406 --> 00:17:08,009
The skeleton-face guy,
he is breaking her neck.
332
00:17:08,011 --> 00:17:10,277
He's directly involved.
333
00:17:10,279 --> 00:17:12,280
He's killing people,
334
00:17:12,282 --> 00:17:16,083
actually killing them.
335
00:17:16,085 --> 00:17:19,487
This land is very, very bad.
336
00:17:19,489 --> 00:17:21,956
It draws the dead in.
337
00:17:21,958 --> 00:17:26,427
The dead can't rest,
so it's like a gathering place.
338
00:17:26,429 --> 00:17:28,796
It breeds psychopaths.
339
00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:32,533
Okay.
So now the war's over.
340
00:17:32,535 --> 00:17:34,468
When does Cassius get ahold
of my client's property?
341
00:17:34,470 --> 00:17:36,304
He would have bought it
in 1898.
342
00:17:36,306 --> 00:17:37,772
- Okay.
- It was a hotel
343
00:17:37,774 --> 00:17:40,908
called the Sauk Centre House
at the time.
344
00:17:40,910 --> 00:17:42,643
It was not
a great investment.
345
00:17:42,645 --> 00:17:45,446
- Why?
- On June 27, 1900,
346
00:17:45,448 --> 00:17:47,114
it burned completely
to the ground.
347
00:17:47,116 --> 00:17:49,650
All right.
This poor guy had the property
2 years and lost everything.
348
00:17:49,652 --> 00:17:51,853
Yes. Now, there have been
several fires
349
00:17:51,855 --> 00:17:53,187
on that property
over the years.
350
00:17:53,189 --> 00:17:54,655
You might want
to look into that.
351
00:17:54,657 --> 00:17:56,424
That's interesting.
Okay. I will.
352
00:17:56,426 --> 00:17:58,659
Okay. Any idea what started
this fire?
353
00:17:58,661 --> 00:18:00,828
It started in the kitchen,
they believe.
354
00:18:00,830 --> 00:18:02,063
- Anybody die?
- No.
355
00:18:02,065 --> 00:18:03,865
There were 30 guests
in the hotel at the time.
356
00:18:03,867 --> 00:18:05,199
There were no fatalities.
357
00:18:05,201 --> 00:18:06,466
Okay, but it's destroyed
totally.
358
00:18:06,468 --> 00:18:08,669
- Completely.
- What happens next?
359
00:18:08,671 --> 00:18:10,738
He collected
the insurance money
360
00:18:10,740 --> 00:18:13,374
and then sold it
to the family, the Palmers.
361
00:18:13,376 --> 00:18:16,310
Who built the hotel
that's there today.
Correct.
362
00:18:16,312 --> 00:18:18,078
Okay. So what happens to him
after he sells the property
363
00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:19,280
to the Palmers?
364
00:18:19,282 --> 00:18:21,149
Well, his fortune seemed
to change after that.
365
00:18:21,151 --> 00:18:22,950
He went into banking.
366
00:18:22,952 --> 00:18:25,153
By the end of his life,
he owned 12 banks.
367
00:18:25,155 --> 00:18:26,554
Okay.
So he it turns out this fire
368
00:18:26,556 --> 00:18:28,355
might have been
a good thing for him.
369
00:18:28,357 --> 00:18:30,424
You can look at it that way.
370
00:18:32,829 --> 00:18:34,695
I'm trying to figure out
371
00:18:34,697 --> 00:18:38,565
who this skeleton-face guy was
when he was alive.
372
00:18:38,567 --> 00:18:42,737
He had a lot of money,
something with a bank.
373
00:18:42,739 --> 00:18:46,107
I'm seeing a bank had
a direct connection here.
374
00:18:46,109 --> 00:18:47,975
Do you know when this was?
375
00:18:47,977 --> 00:18:51,245
Around 1890.
376
00:18:51,247 --> 00:18:53,247
He's protecting something.
377
00:18:53,249 --> 00:18:55,650
I know that this is part
of his secret.
378
00:18:59,021 --> 00:19:03,257
He admits to killing people
when he was alive.
379
00:19:03,259 --> 00:19:05,660
He let that slip out.
380
00:19:05,662 --> 00:19:07,862
He's pissed.
381
00:19:11,667 --> 00:19:14,001
Jill said there were
other fires on the property,
382
00:19:14,003 --> 00:19:15,703
and it turns out she's right.
383
00:19:15,705 --> 00:19:18,205
I'm headed over to meet with
the city's former fire chief,
384
00:19:18,207 --> 00:19:19,673
who dug through
the records for me
385
00:19:19,675 --> 00:19:22,243
and found four major fires
on the land.
386
00:19:28,217 --> 00:19:29,550
Now, John, you mentioned
on the phone
387
00:19:29,552 --> 00:19:31,018
that there were
four major fires
388
00:19:31,020 --> 00:19:32,419
at the property
I'm investigating.
389
00:19:32,421 --> 00:19:34,822
Now I know one happened
in 1900.
390
00:19:34,824 --> 00:19:37,024
I know there's three more.
Let's start with the first one.
391
00:19:37,026 --> 00:19:40,027
Okay. It was back
in September of 1873.
392
00:19:40,029 --> 00:19:41,295
The fire was in the barn.
393
00:19:41,297 --> 00:19:43,965
They believe it had
caught on fire
394
00:19:43,967 --> 00:19:47,000
from a cigar discarded
into a bale of hay.
395
00:19:47,002 --> 00:19:48,969
All right.
Was anybody injured or killed?
396
00:19:48,971 --> 00:19:50,905
No injured or nobody killed.
397
00:19:50,907 --> 00:19:54,108
All right, John.
So what about the second fire?
398
00:19:54,110 --> 00:19:57,478
February of 1885,
there was a large fire.
399
00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:01,182
I'm not sure where or how
it started.
400
00:20:01,184 --> 00:20:02,583
One oddity to it is that
401
00:20:02,585 --> 00:20:05,519
the current owner of
that building at that time
402
00:20:05,521 --> 00:20:07,388
was the Sauk Centre
Fire Chief.
403
00:20:07,390 --> 00:20:08,723
Jeez. Okay.
404
00:20:08,725 --> 00:20:11,391
So now we got three fires
on my client's property.
405
00:20:11,393 --> 00:20:12,726
What about the fourth one?
406
00:20:12,728 --> 00:20:17,598
July 31, 1905. It happened
at the Palmer House.
407
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:21,269
And as you can see, it looks
pretty much as it does today.
408
00:20:21,271 --> 00:20:25,006
And it was quite big news
at the time.
409
00:20:25,008 --> 00:20:27,741
According to this, boarders
jumped from the windows?
410
00:20:27,743 --> 00:20:30,811
There was eight employees,
I believe, on the second floor
411
00:20:30,813 --> 00:20:33,848
that were trapped which had
to jump out of the building,
412
00:20:33,850 --> 00:20:37,017
onto a canopy.
- Wow.
413
00:20:37,019 --> 00:20:39,353
Yeah, desperate times,
desperate measures.
414
00:20:39,355 --> 00:20:41,622
You know, over a 30-year-period,
you got four major fires,
415
00:20:41,624 --> 00:20:44,491
two really bad ones.
- Yes.
416
00:20:44,493 --> 00:20:46,694
And I'm just shocked that
nobody got injured or killed.
417
00:20:46,696 --> 00:20:48,328
It's amazing.
418
00:21:01,678 --> 00:21:04,311
Getting, like, a lot of smoke.
419
00:21:04,313 --> 00:21:07,114
Yeah, there's a lot of smoke
up here.
420
00:21:07,116 --> 00:21:10,518
I'm seeing a woman,
and she can't get out.
421
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,686
I don't know what this is.
422
00:21:12,688 --> 00:21:14,455
She is panicked.
423
00:21:14,457 --> 00:21:16,924
She feels very dizzy,
lightheaded.
424
00:21:18,928 --> 00:21:20,927
She can't breathe.
425
00:21:26,536 --> 00:21:28,269
I- I don't feel good.
426
00:21:28,271 --> 00:21:29,904
This is bad.
427
00:21:37,013 --> 00:21:39,413
For more information
about the show
428
00:21:39,415 --> 00:21:40,948
and if you need us
to investigate
429
00:21:40,950 --> 00:21:42,883
unexplained activity
in your home...
430
00:21:42,885 --> 00:21:46,420
Please visit
travelchannel.com/thedeadfiles.
431
00:21:46,422 --> 00:21:48,489
Click on "Help me, Dead Files!"
to submit your story,
432
00:21:48,491 --> 00:21:49,557
and we'll help if we can.
433
00:21:56,599 --> 00:21:59,266
So far, I've got
employees and guests
434
00:21:59,268 --> 00:22:01,001
being tormented
by bizarre activity
435
00:22:01,003 --> 00:22:05,239
on a property devastated
by four mysterious fires.
436
00:22:05,241 --> 00:22:07,708
But I wanna see
if there's anything else.
437
00:22:07,710 --> 00:22:10,477
Searching through old records,
I find a local police officer
438
00:22:10,479 --> 00:22:12,613
named Jason Rosenburger.
439
00:22:12,615 --> 00:22:15,149
Turns out, Jason was found dead
right down the street
440
00:22:15,151 --> 00:22:17,151
from the Palmer House.
441
00:22:17,153 --> 00:22:19,286
So I have a local reporter
442
00:22:19,288 --> 00:22:21,021
looking into
this cop's death for me.
443
00:22:21,023 --> 00:22:23,490
He did some digging and said
not only did he figure out
444
00:22:23,492 --> 00:22:24,792
what happened to this guy,
445
00:22:24,794 --> 00:22:27,294
but he found another death
associated with the Palmer House
446
00:22:27,296 --> 00:22:28,896
that may help me out.
447
00:22:34,337 --> 00:22:37,171
Mark, this article I came across
where the cop wound up dead,
448
00:22:37,173 --> 00:22:39,373
what were you able
to find out?
449
00:22:39,375 --> 00:22:41,975
On April 17, 1929,
450
00:22:41,977 --> 00:22:44,745
Jason Rosenburger was
a policeman,
451
00:22:44,747 --> 00:22:48,849
also night patrol,
was found dead at City Hall.
452
00:22:48,851 --> 00:22:50,251
How far is this
from the Palmer House?
453
00:22:50,253 --> 00:22:52,352
Approximately 500 feet.
454
00:22:52,354 --> 00:22:54,288
In fact, the last person
to see him alive
455
00:22:54,290 --> 00:22:56,790
was the night clerk
at the Palmer House.
456
00:22:56,792 --> 00:22:58,325
I know this guy got shot,
457
00:22:58,327 --> 00:22:59,860
so do we know
where the bullet entered?
458
00:22:59,862 --> 00:23:02,396
Next to his nose,
just right underneath the eye.
459
00:23:02,398 --> 00:23:04,031
So I'm assuming
this is a homicide.
460
00:23:04,033 --> 00:23:05,099
Not necessarily.
461
00:23:05,101 --> 00:23:07,001
The coroner's jury came back
462
00:23:07,003 --> 00:23:09,536
and said it was accidental
discharge of the firearm.
463
00:23:09,538 --> 00:23:11,071
All right.
So if it's accidental,
464
00:23:11,073 --> 00:23:13,240
I guess a round
from his firearm was missing,
465
00:23:13,242 --> 00:23:14,708
and that's what
he shot himself with.
466
00:23:14,710 --> 00:23:17,344
Well, that's where it gets
interesting, because the round
467
00:23:17,346 --> 00:23:20,548
that they found
did not match his gun.
468
00:23:20,550 --> 00:23:23,751
Plus, his gun was
still fully loaded.
469
00:23:23,753 --> 00:23:27,021
So how the hell is this
an accidental shooting?
470
00:23:27,023 --> 00:23:28,289
That, I don't know.
471
00:23:28,291 --> 00:23:30,624
To me, it's a homicide.
472
00:23:30,626 --> 00:23:31,791
I mean, it sounds almost like
473
00:23:31,793 --> 00:23:34,161
there's something being
covered up.
474
00:23:36,165 --> 00:23:37,831
Somebody lost their left eye.
475
00:23:37,833 --> 00:23:41,268
It's a male.
476
00:23:41,270 --> 00:23:44,905
This male is getting shot,
definitely a shooting.
477
00:23:44,907 --> 00:23:48,141
The guy in there
got shot in the eye.
478
00:23:48,143 --> 00:23:50,644
I'm not being able
to see out of it.
479
00:23:50,646 --> 00:23:53,213
He could absolutely be
in denial.
480
00:23:53,215 --> 00:23:55,081
So, Mark, you mentioned
on the phone
481
00:23:55,083 --> 00:23:56,984
there was another death
that might help my case.
Yes.
482
00:23:56,986 --> 00:24:00,654
Back in 1870, there was
a freed slave named Mose
483
00:24:00,656 --> 00:24:02,523
that lived and worked
at the property
484
00:24:02,525 --> 00:24:03,757
you're investigating.
485
00:24:03,759 --> 00:24:05,993
It was called the Barnum Hotel
at that time.
486
00:24:05,995 --> 00:24:07,528
So do we know anything
about this guy Mose?
487
00:24:07,530 --> 00:24:10,130
Well, it was known that
he was terrified of ghosts.
488
00:24:10,132 --> 00:24:13,734
And also, he had experienced
some paranormal activity
489
00:24:13,736 --> 00:24:15,269
at the Barnum Hotel.
490
00:24:15,271 --> 00:24:17,004
Well, this is something
new I've never come across.
491
00:24:17,006 --> 00:24:20,941
So back in 1870, somebody
was having experiences
492
00:24:20,943 --> 00:24:23,177
on the property
I'm investigating now.
493
00:24:23,179 --> 00:24:25,212
- Correct.
- How did he die?
494
00:24:25,214 --> 00:24:28,215
A couple of local boys
wanted to pull a prank on him,
495
00:24:28,217 --> 00:24:29,650
dress up as ghosts.
496
00:24:29,652 --> 00:24:32,920
They hid in the hotel,
and everywhere he turned,
497
00:24:32,922 --> 00:24:34,855
he'd run into a ghost,
and he got so scared
498
00:24:34,857 --> 00:24:36,757
he just ran off into
the woods,
499
00:24:36,759 --> 00:24:38,559
and he ended up spending
the night out there.
500
00:24:38,561 --> 00:24:41,161
It was a cold and rainy night.
501
00:24:41,163 --> 00:24:43,297
Right. So did this guy
die out in the woods?
502
00:24:43,299 --> 00:24:44,898
No. They found him
the next morning,
503
00:24:44,900 --> 00:24:47,968
and he was horribly sick,
brought him back to the hotel,
504
00:24:47,970 --> 00:24:50,538
where he later died
on your client's property.
505
00:24:56,646 --> 00:24:59,446
I saw several disturbing
things during my walk,
506
00:24:59,448 --> 00:25:01,915
but two stood out.
507
00:25:01,917 --> 00:25:05,852
First, the shadows figures
who hang out upstairs.
508
00:25:05,854 --> 00:25:07,054
There was one crawling
on the ceiling.
509
00:25:07,056 --> 00:25:08,989
There was one
crawling up the wall,
510
00:25:08,991 --> 00:25:13,660
and then others that were
just really fragmented.
511
00:25:13,662 --> 00:25:18,532
One looked like he was dripping,
like, chunks of tar.
512
00:25:18,534 --> 00:25:21,268
Next, I described
the skeleton-face man
513
00:25:21,270 --> 00:25:24,204
attacking the living.
514
00:25:24,206 --> 00:25:26,406
There was this dead guy,
515
00:25:26,408 --> 00:25:29,610
and he was pretty tall,
really thin,
516
00:25:29,612 --> 00:25:33,046
and he was punching
a living person.
517
00:25:39,421 --> 00:25:41,488
Amy, is this what
you saw?
518
00:25:41,490 --> 00:25:43,324
Yes, that's what I saw.
519
00:26:00,959 --> 00:26:04,428
Now that Amy and I have
completed our investigations,
520
00:26:04,430 --> 00:26:06,630
we're ready to reveal
our findings to each other
521
00:26:06,632 --> 00:26:09,299
and our clients
for the first time.
522
00:26:09,301 --> 00:26:10,768
Well, Amy, I want you
to meet Kelley.
523
00:26:10,770 --> 00:26:13,637
She owns the hotel and called us
in because activity is bad
524
00:26:13,639 --> 00:26:15,072
and it's getting worse.
525
00:26:15,074 --> 00:26:16,407
I got to be up front
with something.
526
00:26:16,409 --> 00:26:19,043
No matter what you say tonight,
she ain't leaving.
527
00:26:21,179 --> 00:26:23,247
Wyatt's been living here
for about 7 months,
528
00:26:23,249 --> 00:26:25,482
and he's already been through
a hell of a lot,
529
00:26:25,484 --> 00:26:26,784
and I don't think
it's going to take a lot
530
00:26:26,786 --> 00:26:28,385
to convince him to move.
531
00:26:28,387 --> 00:26:30,153
But they're hoping
you can figure out a way
532
00:26:30,155 --> 00:26:32,722
to make this place safe.
533
00:26:32,724 --> 00:26:34,524
So now that
Amy has met you guys,
534
00:26:34,526 --> 00:26:36,660
I'm going to ask her
to describe her walk for us.
535
00:26:40,499 --> 00:26:44,301
I got that this was
a gathering spot
for the dead,
536
00:26:44,303 --> 00:26:47,203
and it has been for
a very, very long time,
537
00:26:47,205 --> 00:26:49,139
and because of that,
538
00:26:49,141 --> 00:26:52,275
there is
this huge collection
539
00:26:52,277 --> 00:26:56,680
of residual information.
540
00:26:56,682 --> 00:26:59,716
I think that living would
maybe hear partying going on.
541
00:26:59,718 --> 00:27:02,019
You'd hear, like, glasses
clinking, chairs moving,
542
00:27:02,021 --> 00:27:03,620
people walking around.
543
00:27:03,622 --> 00:27:07,957
If you're consistently exposed
to this kind of energy,
544
00:27:07,959 --> 00:27:10,160
it can make somebody sick.
545
00:27:10,162 --> 00:27:11,495
Well, it's funny.
546
00:27:11,497 --> 00:27:13,664
You hit on some of
the experiences they're having.
547
00:27:13,666 --> 00:27:15,165
Now, Wyatt,
you mentioned it sounded like
548
00:27:15,167 --> 00:27:16,566
somebody dropped a...
549
00:27:16,568 --> 00:27:18,835
30-pound weight above me,
and it's during a time
550
00:27:18,837 --> 00:27:21,772
when I know
there's nobody in the hotel.
551
00:27:21,774 --> 00:27:25,041
- Kelley, you've heard footsteps.
- That's very common.
552
00:27:25,043 --> 00:27:28,045
I've had other guests
talk about that as well.
553
00:27:28,047 --> 00:27:32,482
Now, Kelley, and you as well,
Wyatt, told me about being sick.
554
00:27:32,484 --> 00:27:37,854
There are some days that
it's just unexplainable fatigue,
555
00:27:37,856 --> 00:27:39,323
the headache, nausea...
556
00:27:39,325 --> 00:27:41,658
...feeling a little off-balance
or dizzy.
557
00:27:41,660 --> 00:27:43,861
I get the exact same
kind of feeling.
558
00:27:44,997 --> 00:27:47,664
Sick to my stomach,
a little woozy.
559
00:27:47,666 --> 00:27:50,533
Amy, you said you got a lot
of residual information.
560
00:27:50,535 --> 00:27:55,139
Well, this building we're
sitting in was built in 1901.
561
00:27:55,141 --> 00:27:57,641
I have a photo right around
when it was built.
562
00:27:57,643 --> 00:28:01,445
There's been a hotel on this
property since at least 1867.
563
00:28:01,447 --> 00:28:03,780
You can imagine, there's been
a lot of people over the years
564
00:28:03,782 --> 00:28:05,482
that have come through here.
565
00:28:05,484 --> 00:28:06,984
That totally makes sense
566
00:28:06,986 --> 00:28:09,319
with all the residual energy
that's here.
567
00:28:12,557 --> 00:28:13,990
Okay, so what else?
568
00:28:13,992 --> 00:28:15,425
So I'm on the third floor.
569
00:28:15,427 --> 00:28:19,963
I'm literally tasting smoke
in my mouth and coughing.
570
00:28:19,965 --> 00:28:23,033
Then I'm feeling this woman,
but she was all alone
571
00:28:23,035 --> 00:28:25,235
and she was freaking out,
so she was panicking, too,
572
00:28:25,237 --> 00:28:26,236
which was making it worse
573
00:28:26,238 --> 00:28:28,105
because she was
breathing more in.
574
00:28:28,107 --> 00:28:29,573
There's something
you should know about, Amy,
575
00:28:29,575 --> 00:28:30,874
about this place.
576
00:28:30,876 --> 00:28:32,976
There were
four major fires here.
577
00:28:32,978 --> 00:28:34,511
Holy...
578
00:28:34,513 --> 00:28:36,480
First fire happened in 1873
579
00:28:36,482 --> 00:28:39,449
when this hotel was known
as the Sauk Centre House.
580
00:28:39,451 --> 00:28:42,786
Here's a photo of
the original hotel.
581
00:28:42,788 --> 00:28:44,788
Then in February of 1885,
582
00:28:44,790 --> 00:28:47,090
the Sauk Centre Hotel
partially burned down.
583
00:28:47,092 --> 00:28:48,792
Records are kind of thin
on that fire,
584
00:28:48,794 --> 00:28:51,595
so we don't know what happened,
but nobody was hurt.
585
00:28:51,597 --> 00:28:53,197
The next fire was in 1900,
586
00:28:53,199 --> 00:28:54,564
and this one started
in the kitchen.
587
00:28:54,566 --> 00:28:58,001
Once again, no casualties,
but the building was destroyed.
588
00:28:58,003 --> 00:29:00,070
After that fire,
this hotel was built.
589
00:29:00,072 --> 00:29:04,074
Now, the final fire happened
in July of 1905
590
00:29:04,076 --> 00:29:05,776
at about 2:45 a.m.,
591
00:29:05,778 --> 00:29:07,077
and that was the scariest one.
592
00:29:07,079 --> 00:29:10,346
They had 45 employees and guests
in the hotel at the time.
593
00:29:10,348 --> 00:29:12,949
They were forced to evacuate,
but eight of those people
594
00:29:12,951 --> 00:29:15,418
were trapped upstairs
on the second floor.
595
00:29:15,420 --> 00:29:17,020
They had to jump out
of the window...
596
00:29:17,022 --> 00:29:20,123
...onto the old canvas tarps
to escape.
597
00:29:20,125 --> 00:29:23,026
I actually have an article
on that fire.
598
00:29:23,028 --> 00:29:24,894
Now, the building
was badly damaged.
599
00:29:24,896 --> 00:29:27,831
But amazingly enough, again,
there was no casualties.
600
00:29:27,833 --> 00:29:30,501
- That's a lot of fires.
- I did not know that.
601
00:29:32,638 --> 00:29:36,272
So I'm in the dining room,
and now I'm getting this guy.
602
00:29:36,274 --> 00:29:38,207
And he's shot
in one of his eyes,
603
00:29:38,209 --> 00:29:40,244
'cause I couldn't see
out of the eye.
604
00:29:40,246 --> 00:29:45,582
He is a dead person,
but he's in denial.
605
00:29:45,584 --> 00:29:49,920
I did come across one individual
that was shot in the eye,
606
00:29:49,922 --> 00:29:51,988
and his name was
Jason Rosenburger.
607
00:29:51,990 --> 00:29:55,959
Yeah, he was a Sauk Centre
policeman and a night watchman.
Wow.
608
00:29:55,961 --> 00:29:58,929
April 17, 1929, his body
was found in the old City Hall,
609
00:29:58,931 --> 00:30:00,463
less than 500 feet from here.
610
00:30:00,465 --> 00:30:04,000
In fact, the Palmer House Hotel
was on Rosenburger's beat,
611
00:30:04,002 --> 00:30:05,669
and the night that he died,
612
00:30:05,671 --> 00:30:08,137
this was the last location
he was seen alive.
613
00:30:08,139 --> 00:30:10,740
He had been shot in the face,
and the bullet entered
614
00:30:10,742 --> 00:30:12,276
just underneath his eye.
615
00:30:12,278 --> 00:30:15,279
Now the coroner's jury decided
it was an accidental death.
616
00:30:15,281 --> 00:30:16,813
I don't buy it.
617
00:30:16,815 --> 00:30:19,349
The bullet on the scene didn't
match the bullets in his gun.
618
00:30:19,351 --> 00:30:22,819
Not only that, no round
was discharged from his firearm.
619
00:30:22,821 --> 00:30:24,520
I'm convinced it was a homicide.
620
00:30:24,522 --> 00:30:25,689
I...Yeah.
621
00:30:25,691 --> 00:30:27,324
- You agree?
- Absolutely.
622
00:30:27,326 --> 00:30:29,026
Whatever happened,
happened so quick.
623
00:30:29,028 --> 00:30:33,564
He had no knowledge because he's
in complete denial of his death.
624
00:30:33,566 --> 00:30:35,699
I- I didn't know any of this,
625
00:30:35,701 --> 00:30:39,169
and everything is
so much more real.
626
00:30:44,243 --> 00:30:47,310
So another thing that I saw --
now we're going back up
627
00:30:47,312 --> 00:30:48,778
to the third floor,
628
00:30:48,780 --> 00:30:52,482
and I see about
four to six shadow beings,
629
00:30:52,484 --> 00:30:55,785
and I knew
pretty damn quickly
630
00:30:55,787 --> 00:30:59,122
that they were
actually dead men,
631
00:30:59,124 --> 00:31:00,623
and the thing is,
is that these are
632
00:31:00,625 --> 00:31:02,726
severely mentally ill people.
633
00:31:02,728 --> 00:31:07,230
I think the biggest problem
with this for the living
634
00:31:07,232 --> 00:31:11,468
is that, when you're exposed
to that kind of energy,
635
00:31:11,470 --> 00:31:16,106
you're going to start having
behavioral changes yourself --
636
00:31:16,108 --> 00:31:21,144
anger, acting kind of off
would begin to happen.
637
00:31:21,146 --> 00:31:22,746
I've noticed that myself.
638
00:31:22,748 --> 00:31:24,480
In yourself?
Even in myself.
639
00:31:24,482 --> 00:31:28,318
What kind of thoughts
or emotions were you having?
640
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,587
A lot of anxiety, panicky,
a lot of nervousness
641
00:31:31,589 --> 00:31:33,623
that came out of nowhere.
642
00:31:33,625 --> 00:31:36,326
There's days where
all of the employees,
643
00:31:36,328 --> 00:31:39,162
there can just be
very erratic,
644
00:31:39,164 --> 00:31:41,364
unreasonable behavior,
actually.
645
00:31:41,366 --> 00:31:43,834
- Really?
- You got a hotel here.
646
00:31:43,836 --> 00:31:45,168
Why don't you
just sell it, right?
647
00:31:45,170 --> 00:31:48,604
But I want you to tell Amy
how important this is.
648
00:31:48,606 --> 00:31:51,975
I have come to take it
very personal and very seriously
649
00:31:51,977 --> 00:31:53,577
that this is my purpose,
650
00:31:53,579 --> 00:31:58,281
and my life is to be
the steward for it now.
651
00:31:58,283 --> 00:31:59,649
And this is why, I told you
at the beginning,
652
00:31:59,651 --> 00:32:01,150
she's not giving up.
653
00:32:01,152 --> 00:32:02,686
She's not moving.
654
00:32:02,688 --> 00:32:04,253
The crazy people
that look like shadows,
655
00:32:04,255 --> 00:32:06,723
now would the living see that?
656
00:32:06,725 --> 00:32:08,725
Or is that something
only you saw?
657
00:32:08,727 --> 00:32:12,796
I do think that the living would
occasionally see shadow figures,
658
00:32:12,798 --> 00:32:16,433
and I had a sketch done
of specifically what I saw.
659
00:32:27,813 --> 00:32:29,846
Here you go, guys.
660
00:32:35,954 --> 00:32:39,089
I gotta say that that's exactly
kind of how it feels.
661
00:32:39,091 --> 00:32:42,092
It just feels like
I'm falling apart.
662
00:32:42,094 --> 00:32:46,697
Just about everyone I talked
to here has seen shadow figures.
663
00:32:46,699 --> 00:32:49,366
Other guests have shared
with me...
Right.
664
00:32:49,368 --> 00:32:50,600
...lots of
different things...
Yeah.
665
00:32:50,602 --> 00:32:52,369
...that are fairly extreme.
666
00:32:52,371 --> 00:32:54,271
What did you consider
extreme?
667
00:32:54,273 --> 00:32:55,939
On the ceiling, for example.
668
00:32:55,941 --> 00:32:57,808
- Yeah.
- Up the wall.
669
00:32:57,810 --> 00:32:59,175
That would be terrifying.
670
00:32:59,177 --> 00:33:01,511
Yeah.
I would think so, yeah.
671
00:33:01,513 --> 00:33:03,580
Kelley here has seen
specific shadow figures
672
00:33:03,582 --> 00:33:05,181
down here in this basement.
673
00:33:05,183 --> 00:33:06,316
He is so big.
674
00:33:06,318 --> 00:33:10,686
His mass is so wide
and he's so tall.
675
00:33:10,688 --> 00:33:13,923
- Is that what she's seeing?
- No. Mnh-mnh, no.
676
00:33:13,925 --> 00:33:16,392
- That's somebody else.
- Ooh.
677
00:33:16,394 --> 00:33:18,261
- That's not good news.
- Yeah.
678
00:33:20,999 --> 00:33:24,401
So one of the dead people
that I encountered
679
00:33:24,403 --> 00:33:28,338
was a dead woman
who was murdered.
680
00:33:28,340 --> 00:33:31,408
She was murdered by the guy
that she was with,
681
00:33:31,410 --> 00:33:34,745
and he's here,
and he's very active here,
682
00:33:34,747 --> 00:33:36,546
but I'll get to him
in a second.
683
00:33:36,548 --> 00:33:40,050
The woman is most active
in the kitchen.
684
00:33:40,052 --> 00:33:42,419
She can get physical
with the living,
685
00:33:42,421 --> 00:33:45,455
and I did see her pushing
a female
686
00:33:45,457 --> 00:33:47,223
out one of the doors
out there.
687
00:33:47,225 --> 00:33:48,858
Like, just pushing her out.
688
00:33:48,860 --> 00:33:50,092
Now, Kelley,
you weren't pushed,
689
00:33:50,094 --> 00:33:51,962
but you had something
thrown at you.
690
00:33:51,964 --> 00:33:54,163
There was a mixing bowl.
691
00:33:54,165 --> 00:33:57,367
It flew off of the shelf
it was on,
692
00:33:57,369 --> 00:33:59,502
about 10 feet
through the air.
693
00:33:59,504 --> 00:34:02,172
So she's throwing...
694
00:34:02,174 --> 00:34:04,174
Now how about the guy
that killed her?
695
00:34:04,176 --> 00:34:07,511
Yes. I'm gonna refer to him
as "skeleton face."
696
00:34:07,513 --> 00:34:09,913
This is the male
who killed this female.
697
00:34:09,915 --> 00:34:12,749
He is definitely
the biggest threat.
698
00:34:12,751 --> 00:34:14,784
He's very, very powerful,
699
00:34:14,786 --> 00:34:17,654
very dangerous,
and very secretive.
700
00:34:17,656 --> 00:34:21,591
There are a few things that
I was able to get out of him.
701
00:34:21,593 --> 00:34:23,860
He was white, lots of money.
702
00:34:23,862 --> 00:34:27,564
I got that the 1890s were
very important to him,
703
00:34:27,566 --> 00:34:30,000
absolute connection
to this location.
704
00:34:30,002 --> 00:34:33,936
He made it very clear to me
that he did a lot of bad things
705
00:34:33,938 --> 00:34:35,138
when he was alive,
706
00:34:35,140 --> 00:34:38,408
and that included
killing several people.
707
00:34:38,410 --> 00:34:41,144
You know, it's not a lot
to go on, but some of the stuff
708
00:34:41,146 --> 00:34:42,411
you were talking about
reminds me
709
00:34:42,413 --> 00:34:44,481
of one of the past owners
of this place.
710
00:34:44,483 --> 00:34:46,148
His name was Cassius Sprigg.
711
00:34:46,150 --> 00:34:48,451
You mentioned the 1890s
were important to him.
712
00:34:48,453 --> 00:34:50,620
Now, he bought
this property in 1898.
713
00:34:50,622 --> 00:34:52,956
Now, the guy you saw killed
people when he was alive.
714
00:34:52,958 --> 00:34:55,725
Well, Cassius fought
in the Dakota-Indian Wars.
715
00:34:55,727 --> 00:34:58,361
Now, we have no idea
how many people Cassius killed,
716
00:34:58,363 --> 00:35:00,163
but we do know
that the war ended
717
00:35:00,165 --> 00:35:02,431
with the execution
of 38 people,
718
00:35:02,433 --> 00:35:04,501
and he was part of all this.
719
00:35:04,503 --> 00:35:06,236
To this day, it's the largest
mass execution
720
00:35:06,238 --> 00:35:07,537
in American history.
721
00:35:07,539 --> 00:35:10,573
Now, Sprigg only owned
this hotel for a few years.
722
00:35:10,575 --> 00:35:12,441
After he got out of
the hotel business, though,
723
00:35:12,443 --> 00:35:16,880
he got into banking
and made a small fortune.
724
00:35:16,882 --> 00:35:19,683
I've got a photo of him.
725
00:35:19,685 --> 00:35:22,586
Any chances this is who you saw?
726
00:35:22,588 --> 00:35:24,287
- Any idea?
- I don't think so
727
00:35:24,289 --> 00:35:26,990
'cause he made it seem
like the killings
728
00:35:26,992 --> 00:35:32,829
he did were not, like,
public knowledge.
729
00:35:32,831 --> 00:35:35,164
Now you said you were concerned
about the skeleton-face guy.
730
00:35:35,166 --> 00:35:36,266
Why is that?
731
00:35:36,268 --> 00:35:40,003
This guy is capable
of mimicking voices,
732
00:35:40,005 --> 00:35:41,571
mimicking people.
733
00:35:41,573 --> 00:35:43,073
So like,
a friend, coworker,
734
00:35:43,075 --> 00:35:44,507
when you think
they're saying something
735
00:35:44,509 --> 00:35:47,143
and there's nobody there.
736
00:35:47,145 --> 00:35:50,213
That's a common occurrence
for myself and other employees,
737
00:35:50,215 --> 00:35:53,416
and you keep trying
to go find it, thinking,
738
00:35:53,418 --> 00:35:55,485
"Maybe somebody came back
into the building,"
739
00:35:55,487 --> 00:35:58,154
and then that's
eventually realized
740
00:35:58,156 --> 00:35:59,956
that you're
in the building alone.
741
00:35:59,958 --> 00:36:03,760
And what's probably the most
frightening for living people
742
00:36:03,762 --> 00:36:06,897
is that he does know
how to jump people.
743
00:36:06,899 --> 00:36:09,566
He was trying to do it to me
throughout my walk,
744
00:36:09,568 --> 00:36:11,368
and he was
extremely aggressive
745
00:36:11,370 --> 00:36:13,570
when I got down into
the basement.
746
00:36:13,572 --> 00:36:17,374
My god.
747
00:36:17,376 --> 00:36:20,176
These are two people that feel
like they've been jumped.
748
00:36:20,178 --> 00:36:22,111
I don't have a lot of memory
when it happened to me,
749
00:36:22,113 --> 00:36:25,048
I just knew it wasn't me.
750
00:36:25,050 --> 00:36:26,515
Couldn't collect my thoughts.
751
00:36:26,517 --> 00:36:29,519
Like, I felt like this outer
shell of me was doing something,
752
00:36:29,521 --> 00:36:32,122
and the inside was
looking around going,
753
00:36:32,124 --> 00:36:34,257
"What is going on?"
754
00:36:34,259 --> 00:36:36,692
Something similar
happened to Wyatt.
755
00:36:36,694 --> 00:36:39,328
I was down here in the basement
and was just, like,
756
00:36:39,330 --> 00:36:40,864
a snap of my fingers,
757
00:36:40,866 --> 00:36:43,533
and I felt overcome
and overwhelmed.
758
00:36:43,535 --> 00:36:47,871
He will do anything he can
to instill fear
759
00:36:47,873 --> 00:36:49,872
and get the living
out of here,
760
00:36:49,874 --> 00:36:53,076
and that can become
physical or be physical --
761
00:36:53,078 --> 00:36:56,012
slapping, pushing, punching.
762
00:36:56,014 --> 00:36:59,048
I saw him punching a male
in the back,
763
00:36:59,050 --> 00:37:01,284
and I did have a sketch done.
764
00:37:01,286 --> 00:37:04,688
This should be interesting.
765
00:37:13,899 --> 00:37:16,366
Ooh.
766
00:37:24,375 --> 00:37:26,909
That's some picture, ain't it?
767
00:37:26,911 --> 00:37:29,712
I don't know even know
what to say to that.
768
00:37:29,714 --> 00:37:32,181
My god.
769
00:37:32,183 --> 00:37:35,718
What's this speck behind it?
What's this going on?
770
00:37:35,720 --> 00:37:36,919
This is a friend of his,
771
00:37:36,921 --> 00:37:38,788
and they're killing
this guy here.
772
00:37:38,790 --> 00:37:40,557
He didn't want me
to see that.
773
00:37:43,461 --> 00:37:45,995
He's gotta go.
774
00:37:45,997 --> 00:37:48,331
What the hell does this guy
want from these guys?
775
00:37:48,333 --> 00:37:50,433
Basically, he wants
to kill living people.
776
00:38:05,701 --> 00:38:06,999
Kelley, you made it
very clear
777
00:38:07,001 --> 00:38:08,935
that leaving here
is not an option for you.
778
00:38:08,937 --> 00:38:10,670
But after what
we've heard tonight,
779
00:38:10,672 --> 00:38:14,073
it's crystal clear that
it's not safe here for you,
780
00:38:14,075 --> 00:38:15,909
your employees or the guests.
781
00:38:15,911 --> 00:38:18,811
Now we're going to find out if
there's any way to change that.
782
00:38:18,813 --> 00:38:20,880
For that answer, I'm going to
turn it over to Amy.
783
00:38:25,086 --> 00:38:27,721
I have something to say
really quickly.
784
00:38:27,723 --> 00:38:29,456
A few days after my walk,
785
00:38:29,458 --> 00:38:32,892
I see that you're doing
an event here --
786
00:38:32,894 --> 00:38:35,228
a ghost tour.
- Yeah.
787
00:38:38,533 --> 00:38:39,933
How long have you been
doing that?
788
00:38:39,935 --> 00:38:42,469
Probably for about
4 or 5 years now.
789
00:38:42,471 --> 00:38:45,604
You've noticed an increase
in activity?
790
00:38:45,606 --> 00:38:49,742
I would say that's fair.
791
00:38:49,744 --> 00:38:51,678
When you're stirring up
this kind of activity,
792
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,081
...gonna go wrong.
793
00:38:55,083 --> 00:38:56,215
I gotta ask you.
794
00:38:56,217 --> 00:38:57,851
When we talked,
you never really mentioned
795
00:38:57,853 --> 00:38:59,919
about this whole
ghost-hunting thing.
796
00:38:59,921 --> 00:39:04,623
I never thought of that as
being a contributing factor.
797
00:39:04,625 --> 00:39:08,661
A big reason of why
I do what I do is the dead.
798
00:39:08,663 --> 00:39:13,666
These were people,
and they still are people.
799
00:39:13,668 --> 00:39:18,605
It's easy, I think,
for the living, um,
800
00:39:18,607 --> 00:39:24,411
to have a disassociation
with that concept.
801
00:39:24,413 --> 00:39:28,081
My question is,
what do you want to do?
802
00:39:28,083 --> 00:39:31,818
And do you want
the dead here or not?
803
00:39:37,158 --> 00:39:41,360
If they need moving on,
I'm in complete support of that.
804
00:39:41,362 --> 00:39:43,897
All right. So how do they
get rid of 'em?
805
00:39:43,899 --> 00:39:46,499
You do have to find
a male medium
806
00:39:46,501 --> 00:39:50,970
who is also
a chaos magician.
807
00:39:50,972 --> 00:39:55,575
He is going to basically
collect
808
00:39:55,577 --> 00:39:58,178
the dead skeleton guy
809
00:39:58,180 --> 00:40:02,248
and remove him
from the location altogether.
810
00:40:02,250 --> 00:40:05,518
The other thing that does
is that it literally
811
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:09,489
will clear the basement
of not only him but also
812
00:40:09,491 --> 00:40:15,061
all the residual information
and energy down here.
813
00:40:15,063 --> 00:40:21,467
So, like, this basement?
Nothing. Nothing going on.
814
00:40:21,469 --> 00:40:23,937
So she won't see the shadows
down here, won't get jumped.
815
00:40:23,939 --> 00:40:26,406
Yeah, that's right.
816
00:40:26,408 --> 00:40:30,076
On another day, the same medium
could come back and remove
817
00:40:30,078 --> 00:40:34,413
all of the shadow people
and the pissy lady.
818
00:40:34,415 --> 00:40:39,418
Unfortunately, the cop, nothing,
at this point, can be done.
819
00:40:39,420 --> 00:40:42,355
Now, if you want to keep
doing ghost tours,
820
00:40:42,357 --> 00:40:44,824
you can keep the residual,
821
00:40:44,826 --> 00:40:47,894
and there is
a plethora of it.
822
00:40:47,896 --> 00:40:49,695
So, Kelley,
when we first talked,
823
00:40:49,697 --> 00:40:52,631
you were just about ready
to break down.
824
00:40:52,633 --> 00:40:56,536
Now it looks like you get to
not only keep your place
825
00:40:56,538 --> 00:40:59,805
but find out a way
to make it safe
826
00:40:59,807 --> 00:41:02,308
and still have it
as an attraction for people
827
00:41:02,310 --> 00:41:05,178
that are into the ghost hunting.
828
00:41:05,180 --> 00:41:07,780
That would absolutely
be ideal.
829
00:41:07,782 --> 00:41:11,050
Now the ultimate question --
Are you gonna do what she says?
830
00:41:11,052 --> 00:41:13,519
Yes, I absolutely will.
831
00:41:13,521 --> 00:41:14,453
So, Wyatt, what about you?
832
00:41:14,455 --> 00:41:15,922
Would you be willing
to help out?
833
00:41:15,924 --> 00:41:18,457
Yeah, I'm here for her.
834
00:41:18,459 --> 00:41:25,764
I am so immensely pleased
and relieved and grateful.
835
00:41:25,766 --> 00:41:29,669
I feel very optimistic
about everything.
836
00:41:29,671 --> 00:41:31,270
It won't be easy
837
00:41:31,272 --> 00:41:33,206
removing the dangerous dead
inside this hotel.
838
00:41:33,208 --> 00:41:36,075
But if Kelley contacts
the medium, who is also
839
00:41:36,077 --> 00:41:38,477
a chaos magician,
to banish the dead,
840
00:41:38,479 --> 00:41:40,879
her guests and employees
will be safe,
841
00:41:40,881 --> 00:41:43,883
and she can keep running
the hotel she loves so much.
842
00:41:44,305 --> 00:42:44,206
Please rate this subtitle at www.osdb.link/7taub
Help other users to choose the best subtitles
66177
Can't find what you're looking for?
Get subtitles in any language from opensubtitles.com, and translate them here.