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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:22,922 --> 00:00:24,490 [Lauren Manning] It's almost got worse, I think... 4 00:00:25,959 --> 00:00:27,159 over time. 5 00:00:31,865 --> 00:00:34,299 I go into a mode of... 6 00:00:35,535 --> 00:00:37,236 complete irrational thinking. 7 00:00:43,777 --> 00:00:47,146 This fear and this panic comes over me... 8 00:00:47,847 --> 00:00:51,350 knowing that just like that something can happen. 9 00:00:58,224 --> 00:01:02,127 There always is that question of why did I make it out, 10 00:01:02,129 --> 00:01:04,329 why did I escape? 11 00:01:10,070 --> 00:01:12,471 It's become a huge part of who I am. 12 00:01:27,687 --> 00:01:32,291 I started working on this painting in 2002. 13 00:01:34,194 --> 00:01:37,196 It's a recreation of the painting that I lost that morning. 14 00:01:40,133 --> 00:01:43,669 I loved the whole experience of being away up there at the top of the World Trade Center, 15 00:01:43,671 --> 00:01:45,804 that high up. 16 00:01:45,806 --> 00:01:49,908 I'd often go for sunrise and because of the slats of the windows, 17 00:01:49,910 --> 00:01:54,113 you have this big fan of reds and yellows and oranges, 18 00:01:54,115 --> 00:01:58,484 and things sort of fanning out across the whole floor, which is amazing. 19 00:02:02,889 --> 00:02:05,791 It's a view that no longer existed 20 00:02:05,793 --> 00:02:10,295 but I'd been there that morning and I needed to recreate it. 21 00:02:15,668 --> 00:02:18,303 I don't think it will ever be finished now. 22 00:02:58,678 --> 00:03:01,914 [male newsreader 1] Good morning, 64 degrees on this Tuesday, September 11th. 23 00:03:01,916 --> 00:03:04,716 I'm James Faraday and here's what's happening. 24 00:03:04,718 --> 00:03:07,519 It appears Michael Jordan will indeed be coming out of retirement 25 00:03:07,521 --> 00:03:09,120 to return to play to the NBA. 26 00:03:09,122 --> 00:03:12,090 Giants lose the opener following the Monday night game at Denver. 27 00:03:12,092 --> 00:03:13,959 Yankees and Red Sox reigned out of the stadium. 28 00:03:13,961 --> 00:03:15,060 [male newsreader 2] I'm Stephen... 29 00:03:16,529 --> 00:03:18,263 [Rich Eichen] Just another typical day at work. 30 00:03:20,166 --> 00:03:25,304 I walked into the train station in town to pick up the express into the city. 31 00:03:30,577 --> 00:03:34,046 I sat next to a guy I knew from the country club. 32 00:03:34,048 --> 00:03:38,550 We're just talking about the food in the club and that it wasn't very good. 33 00:03:39,886 --> 00:03:43,555 So life was, you know, either unexciting or trivial, 34 00:03:43,557 --> 00:03:45,524 depending upon how badly you want to classify it. 35 00:03:46,726 --> 00:03:50,662 [Lauren] Growing up during the '70s and '80s, 36 00:03:50,664 --> 00:03:57,135 what I wanted most was what was espoused in the pages of Glamour and Cosmopolitan, 37 00:03:57,137 --> 00:04:00,005 to have it all, to be it all, to do it all. 38 00:04:00,506 --> 00:04:02,474 In 2001, 39 00:04:02,476 --> 00:04:08,413 I was running the worldwide division of market data for Cantor Fitzgerald. 40 00:04:10,984 --> 00:04:16,455 The towers represented a place of great promise and great hope. 41 00:04:17,090 --> 00:04:18,457 It was my home. 42 00:04:22,128 --> 00:04:23,829 [Rich] This was like awesome. I mean, you know, 43 00:04:23,831 --> 00:04:26,031 I've never been on the 90th floor of anything. 44 00:04:28,101 --> 00:04:30,702 We had pushed our desks up against the windows, 45 00:04:30,704 --> 00:04:32,971 okay, because it was always fun to sit there 46 00:04:32,973 --> 00:04:35,874 and look down at the Empire State Building, right. 47 00:04:35,876 --> 00:04:37,309 That was pretty cool. 48 00:04:44,851 --> 00:04:46,718 [Vanessa Laurence] I'd been at art school 49 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:51,256 and I applied for the artist residency in the Twin Towers. 50 00:04:52,725 --> 00:04:55,761 It was just a big raw 30,000 square foot space 51 00:04:55,763 --> 00:04:59,431 on the 91st floor of the North Tower. 52 00:04:59,433 --> 00:05:04,836 I woke up at four, got the five o'clock ferry and got to the studio for six. 53 00:05:04,838 --> 00:05:07,939 I had actually made it in early because I wanted to work on sunrise painting 54 00:05:07,941 --> 00:05:09,441 that I've been working on. 55 00:05:10,910 --> 00:05:14,680 The light, everything was just so perfect for the painting 56 00:05:14,682 --> 00:05:16,882 that I didn't... I didn't want to stop. I wanted to keep going. 57 00:05:16,884 --> 00:05:19,184 But I... I knew I needed to get a drink or something. 58 00:05:19,186 --> 00:05:20,652 And so I thought, no, I'll go now. 59 00:05:20,654 --> 00:05:24,856 Took a break and went down. 60 00:05:24,858 --> 00:05:30,062 [Lauren] I was still a new mom filled with the joys of everyday new worlds 61 00:05:30,064 --> 00:05:32,597 opening for this little boy. 62 00:05:32,599 --> 00:05:35,901 At the same time, I was anxious to get to work, 63 00:05:35,903 --> 00:05:42,641 uh, because the projects I had at hand there were exciting and it was a place of peace. 64 00:05:42,643 --> 00:05:47,446 Got [inaudible] and then went to make my way back up. 65 00:05:48,748 --> 00:05:52,317 I remember the guy in the elevator holding the door. 66 00:05:53,753 --> 00:05:58,056 And I still remember him pressing the 93rd and me pressing the 91st. 67 00:06:01,461 --> 00:06:04,663 I pushed through the doors, the revolving doors, 68 00:06:04,665 --> 00:06:08,767 and on my right there were two women standing and laughing, 69 00:06:08,769 --> 00:06:12,738 and I looked at them and smiled and they smiled back at me, 70 00:06:12,740 --> 00:06:16,241 and I turn left to head to the elevator. 71 00:06:17,577 --> 00:06:22,013 Here I am in the 90th floor, I'm eating a bagel 72 00:06:22,015 --> 00:06:25,016 and I'm holding a piece of newspaper against the wall 73 00:06:25,018 --> 00:06:26,718 reading about Dell computers 74 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,388 because at the time they... they were hot and new, and everything else. 75 00:06:42,068 --> 00:06:43,402 [man 1] What the hell was that? 76 00:06:43,603 --> 00:06:46,037 [man 1] Well, what is that? 77 00:06:46,039 --> 00:06:49,875 - Something... Somebody hit the World Trade Center or the... - [man 2] The Trade Center. 78 00:06:49,877 --> 00:06:53,678 Trade Center. It's just an explosion. 79 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:57,783 Suddenly the woman's washroom, which was over here, 80 00:06:57,785 --> 00:07:01,853 the door slammed open... slammed open against its hinges 81 00:07:01,855 --> 00:07:03,722 and out came what looked like a blow torch 82 00:07:03,724 --> 00:07:05,490 and I remember ducking down like this 83 00:07:05,492 --> 00:07:07,659 and screaming for myself, "Okay, this is it, I'm done." 84 00:07:07,661 --> 00:07:10,662 Literally the second I, um, stepped out the elevator, 85 00:07:10,664 --> 00:07:13,965 it was just like a big poof, and the building shook, 86 00:07:13,967 --> 00:07:16,735 and smoke and debris came blasting down the corridor. 87 00:07:16,737 --> 00:07:19,704 The elevator, as soon as we'd been thrown out of it, 88 00:07:19,706 --> 00:07:22,274 it went into a fireball and dropped. 89 00:07:22,975 --> 00:07:26,445 There was an extraordinarily loud, 90 00:07:26,447 --> 00:07:30,549 louder piercing, whistling sound. 91 00:07:30,551 --> 00:07:35,854 The explosion, uh, that had pummeled down those elevator shafts blew out 92 00:07:35,856 --> 00:07:41,493 and enveloped everything and everyone in its path, and I was in its path. 93 00:07:41,495 --> 00:07:46,932 I looked over to where the two women were and they were laying on the ground on fire. 94 00:07:46,934 --> 00:07:49,000 And like them, I was on fire. 95 00:07:49,002 --> 00:07:52,337 The guy who was the system administrator office manager, 96 00:07:52,339 --> 00:07:56,675 he was really ticked off because all his servers went down 97 00:07:56,677 --> 00:08:01,847 and he said, "I'm going to be here till midnight rebooting all these servers," right. 98 00:08:01,849 --> 00:08:05,951 And I said, "Well, I'm from the tech industry, I'll be glad to help you out." 99 00:08:05,953 --> 00:08:08,954 None of it... I mean, you don't think that a building 100 00:08:08,956 --> 00:08:11,156 that's been around this long, this size is going to fall. 101 00:08:11,158 --> 00:08:12,958 You just... Never even a thought. 102 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,727 And I'm really... Obviously I'm in shock, right. 103 00:08:15,729 --> 00:08:19,698 I'm obviously not okay even though I think I'm okay. 104 00:08:19,700 --> 00:08:22,000 And I'm trying to figure out what's going on here. 105 00:08:22,002 --> 00:08:26,905 And this guy from one of the banks down... down that hall 106 00:08:26,907 --> 00:08:29,875 came out like this begging for help, 107 00:08:29,877 --> 00:08:32,944 face planted and between my legs and died. 108 00:08:32,979 --> 00:08:36,081 [police siren chirps] 109 00:08:36,083 --> 00:08:38,016 [man 3] It's the tower behind it but... There! There it is! 110 00:08:38,018 --> 00:08:41,353 And look at the size of that thing. That was no... 111 00:08:41,355 --> 00:08:43,788 You could see it from the Lincoln Tunnel and everything 112 00:08:43,790 --> 00:08:47,993 where we were pulling into the Lincoln Tunnel and everybody stood up on the bus. 113 00:08:47,995 --> 00:08:50,695 I'm sorry for whatever amount of people was up on that floor, you know. 114 00:08:50,697 --> 00:08:53,031 Yeah, I know, it's destroyed. 115 00:08:53,033 --> 00:08:54,766 [interviewer] What do you think would have happened 116 00:08:54,768 --> 00:08:57,502 if you hadn't gone down to the lobby to get a drink? 117 00:08:58,905 --> 00:09:03,441 I would have seen the plane coming right... right towards me, um... 118 00:09:04,744 --> 00:09:08,847 because it was right at that window from the direction it was coming. 119 00:09:08,849 --> 00:09:11,516 Yeah, it would probably have all happened so quickly that you don't get a chance 120 00:09:11,518 --> 00:09:17,188 to really take in what's coming towards you and what's actually happening. 121 00:09:25,231 --> 00:09:28,533 [Bill Spade] I remember coming into the door to the firehouse that morning 122 00:09:28,535 --> 00:09:30,235 and the radio is blasting. 123 00:09:31,404 --> 00:09:35,807 There's French vanilla coffee, mate, and there's a dozen bagels there. 124 00:09:35,809 --> 00:09:40,645 So now without even looking I know Doug Miller's working, I know Nikki's working, 125 00:09:40,647 --> 00:09:43,181 and cooking on the stove is Joe Mascali, 126 00:09:43,683 --> 00:09:45,984 and he's making French toast that morning. 127 00:09:45,986 --> 00:09:48,720 I remember telling him, "Joe, I want the first piece that comes off, 128 00:09:48,722 --> 00:09:49,955 I gotta taste this." 129 00:09:49,957 --> 00:09:51,890 [man 4 on radio] We just had a plane that's crashed 130 00:09:51,892 --> 00:09:53,892 into upper floor of the World Trade... 131 00:09:53,894 --> 00:09:56,628 [Bill] I get a phone call from the off-duty fireman 132 00:09:56,630 --> 00:09:59,898 and he tells me, "Bill, I just saw a plane hit the Trade Center." 133 00:09:59,900 --> 00:10:02,100 He says, "It sounds like it's going to be something. 134 00:10:02,102 --> 00:10:03,969 You better head out also." 135 00:10:03,971 --> 00:10:06,671 All of a sudden this woman, Lucy, 136 00:10:06,673 --> 00:10:09,107 she just pointed up and we looked up, 137 00:10:09,109 --> 00:10:12,243 and we saw that our ceiling was starting to smolder. 138 00:10:12,945 --> 00:10:14,312 So we knew we had to leave. 139 00:10:14,314 --> 00:10:17,115 [horns honking] 140 00:10:17,117 --> 00:10:20,118 [Bill] I get on the expressway, clear beautiful day, 141 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,154 and I could see smoke coming from the Tower. 142 00:10:24,523 --> 00:10:27,058 And then I went only a couple more blocks... 143 00:10:28,661 --> 00:10:32,297 and there was body parts everywhere, strewn about the street. 144 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,301 At first I tried to drive around them. 145 00:10:36,869 --> 00:10:38,403 It was just impossible. 146 00:10:39,839 --> 00:10:41,339 And I remember saying the prayer, I said... 147 00:10:43,809 --> 00:10:45,076 "Please forgive me." 148 00:10:47,146 --> 00:10:49,981 And I dropped and I rolled, 149 00:10:49,983 --> 00:10:55,186 and the flames were primarily out but I was still burning. 150 00:10:55,521 --> 00:10:59,457 As this was all unfurling, 151 00:10:59,459 --> 00:11:06,131 the building in front of me trailed the black snake-like smoke from the upper stories 152 00:11:06,133 --> 00:11:12,871 and you could begin to hear the steel wailing and bending and glass breaking all over. 153 00:11:12,873 --> 00:11:15,807 The instinct was to just make... 154 00:11:15,809 --> 00:11:17,842 make your way down because you're so high up. 155 00:11:17,844 --> 00:11:22,614 Made way to the stairwells and I... I remember them just being dark. 156 00:11:22,616 --> 00:11:26,151 Obviously lights... lights were all out, so they were just dark. Sprinklers were on. 157 00:11:26,153 --> 00:11:29,821 It felt like a really small... small space. 158 00:11:29,823 --> 00:11:31,322 There'd be certain points that... 159 00:11:32,191 --> 00:11:34,893 I'd... A panic would kind of kick in 160 00:11:34,895 --> 00:11:37,462 and you suddenly realize that you can't see what's going on, 161 00:11:37,464 --> 00:11:42,967 you don't know what's going on, but everyone's making their way down very slowly. 162 00:11:42,969 --> 00:11:45,804 [man 4 on radio] We have a number of floors on fire, 163 00:11:45,806 --> 00:11:49,374 that look like the plane was aiming towards the building. 164 00:11:49,376 --> 00:11:51,810 Transmitted very long... 165 00:11:51,812 --> 00:11:55,480 [Bill] I... I had popped on the corner of Liberty and West, 166 00:11:55,482 --> 00:11:58,650 I got my gear on, I made sure I had everything I wanted. 167 00:11:58,652 --> 00:12:02,487 Two good flashlights, uh, and a heavy-duty rope. 168 00:12:04,990 --> 00:12:07,225 But as I crossed those six lanes of highway... 169 00:12:09,061 --> 00:12:10,528 I couldn't believe what I was seeing. 170 00:12:22,074 --> 00:12:24,175 Bodies are dropping right in front of us. 171 00:12:25,277 --> 00:12:27,245 One lady coming down screaming... 172 00:12:28,013 --> 00:12:29,380 hitting the ground... 173 00:12:31,317 --> 00:12:33,017 and then there's really nothing left. 174 00:12:34,086 --> 00:12:35,019 Um... 175 00:12:35,254 --> 00:12:37,122 [interviewer] This is right in front of you? 176 00:12:37,790 --> 00:12:38,990 Within three feet. 177 00:12:42,795 --> 00:12:43,528 I remember... 178 00:12:45,097 --> 00:12:47,398 a man and woman jumping... 179 00:12:48,067 --> 00:12:49,167 hugging each other. 180 00:12:51,036 --> 00:12:53,438 And they still had their arms around each other... 181 00:12:54,507 --> 00:12:57,242 as they landed and that's the way it remained. 182 00:13:08,053 --> 00:13:12,023 The color of someone scared, 183 00:13:12,025 --> 00:13:15,226 their body color was taken right out of them... 184 00:13:16,695 --> 00:13:20,932 and they were like ashen grayish blue, 185 00:13:20,934 --> 00:13:24,202 that type of color instantly. 186 00:13:26,005 --> 00:13:28,006 [man 5 on radio] Hopefully [inaudible] attack... [bleep]. 187 00:13:28,008 --> 00:13:31,209 And channel six has been designated a command [inaudible]. 188 00:13:31,211 --> 00:13:33,077 Right now [inaudible] [bleep], 189 00:13:33,079 --> 00:13:35,246 it's [inaudible] confusion 190 00:13:42,922 --> 00:13:45,023 [Malcolm Campbell] I had three very clever sons. 191 00:13:48,627 --> 00:13:52,630 When they were young, we were young parents, we weren't particularly wealthy. 192 00:13:52,632 --> 00:13:55,400 So we'd have a lot of camping holidays. 193 00:13:59,805 --> 00:14:05,376 Matthew, my oldest son, was very industrious, doing this and doing that. 194 00:14:07,246 --> 00:14:10,515 Whereas Geoff would be spending most of his time sulking 195 00:14:10,517 --> 00:14:12,450 because he didn't want to do these things. 196 00:14:16,689 --> 00:14:19,324 And Robert, he's only young then. 197 00:14:23,495 --> 00:14:26,531 I taught them all to read while they were camping. 198 00:14:26,533 --> 00:14:29,400 I remember little hot heads you could touch 199 00:14:29,402 --> 00:14:31,402 and they're sitting there reading their book. 200 00:14:32,805 --> 00:14:39,010 In 2001, my middle son was in New York where he worked for Reuters. 201 00:14:44,016 --> 00:14:46,417 The whole world watched Geoff being killed. 202 00:14:52,925 --> 00:14:56,394 It's been a very strange and difficult 20 years. 203 00:15:06,005 --> 00:15:10,141 This is a map of the Rhinog area in Southern Snowdonia. 204 00:15:11,010 --> 00:15:15,246 It's where I was when the attack happened. 205 00:15:15,248 --> 00:15:18,182 I was leading a group across Rhinog Fawr. 206 00:15:18,817 --> 00:15:21,185 We'd got to summit. 207 00:15:21,187 --> 00:15:26,591 I had a message on my mobile from my youngest son Robert, 208 00:15:26,593 --> 00:15:32,063 who was in London to say something serious had happened and he was worried. 209 00:15:32,765 --> 00:15:35,833 All I knew was Geoff worked for Reuters, 210 00:15:35,835 --> 00:15:42,507 he'd been invited to a freebie lunch event in the Windows on the World restaurant. 211 00:15:42,509 --> 00:15:46,644 Geoff was just under the impact of that plane in the North Tower 212 00:15:46,646 --> 00:15:50,014 and he may have been killed outright, he may have been severely injured, 213 00:15:50,016 --> 00:15:53,217 but everyone sees it and that was the point, he was killed. 214 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,662 When the first anniversary came around in 2002, 215 00:16:04,664 --> 00:16:07,598 it seemed absolutely perfectly natural to me 216 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:12,904 to go back to Rhinogs where I was when the attack happened. 217 00:16:12,906 --> 00:16:17,208 It's a beautiful area and I've been back every year since. 218 00:16:19,912 --> 00:16:22,246 And it's absolutely remote... 219 00:16:23,615 --> 00:16:26,084 and I don't see anybody at all. 220 00:16:28,220 --> 00:16:31,422 And I just like to remember what happened and remember Geoff... 221 00:16:32,858 --> 00:16:34,525 just quietly by myself. 222 00:16:39,031 --> 00:16:41,399 There's a gap in the family, every day there's a gap. 223 00:16:42,634 --> 00:16:45,536 It doesn't quite work as well as it did before. 224 00:16:53,846 --> 00:16:55,947 Geoff was the fulcrum of the family, 225 00:16:55,949 --> 00:16:57,015 he was in the middle... 226 00:16:58,550 --> 00:17:03,021 and the effect on the family was disastrous. 227 00:17:13,866 --> 00:17:16,501 [Matt Campbell] Some of his remains came back... 228 00:17:18,437 --> 00:17:24,475 and they had, uh, identified through DNA, um, his collarbone, 229 00:17:24,477 --> 00:17:30,648 which I know for my mum had, um, significance because he'd broken his collarbone. 230 00:17:30,650 --> 00:17:36,487 It just felt it was like him reminding her that he needs to come home kind of thing. 231 00:17:36,489 --> 00:17:42,026 That you should be able to see, you know, that they name what the body part is. 232 00:17:45,664 --> 00:17:47,465 Yeah, these... these used to have a really... 233 00:17:47,966 --> 00:17:49,734 I never knew if it was a death smell 234 00:17:49,736 --> 00:17:54,639 or whether it was just whatever chemicals they treated the bones to... 235 00:17:54,641 --> 00:17:58,543 to clean them before, they obviously tried to extract DNA and stuff. 236 00:17:58,545 --> 00:18:02,447 And then out of the blue, uh, we had more remains in 2008 237 00:18:02,449 --> 00:18:07,285 his hair and his scalp and a bit of his face and his jaw. 238 00:18:07,287 --> 00:18:12,123 You know, it didn't feel like him but it was... Obviously it's that last contact with... 239 00:18:13,325 --> 00:18:14,525 you know, him. 240 00:18:16,028 --> 00:18:17,995 For most people I think, you know, you just... 241 00:18:17,997 --> 00:18:20,765 you move on and life carries on, doesn't it? 242 00:18:20,767 --> 00:18:23,501 But you really don't know his last moments. 243 00:18:25,904 --> 00:18:31,809 You've got people at the windows desperately trying to get air. 244 00:18:31,811 --> 00:18:34,178 [woman 1] There's no one here yet, and the floor is completely engulfed. 245 00:18:34,180 --> 00:18:35,880 We're on the floor and we can't breathe. 246 00:18:35,882 --> 00:18:39,050 And it's very, very, very hot. 247 00:18:39,052 --> 00:18:40,952 [man 6] So how many people are with you right now? 248 00:18:40,954 --> 00:18:42,620 [woman 2] It's like five people... 249 00:18:42,622 --> 00:18:45,022 [Matt] The resolution is very grainy on some of the... the video 250 00:18:45,024 --> 00:18:47,959 but, you know, occasionally it's like, "God, is that Geoff? 251 00:18:47,961 --> 00:18:50,761 Is that what he was wearing? Is that where he was? 252 00:18:50,763 --> 00:18:52,964 Is it the right floor?" 253 00:18:55,634 --> 00:19:00,638 I was reading and researching more about events surrounding his death 254 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:04,075 but things didn't sit well at all. 255 00:19:04,077 --> 00:19:09,046 I just started to... to feel that, um, you know, we weren't being told the truth. 256 00:19:11,550 --> 00:19:14,519 If... I know that a document exists, I want to see it. 257 00:19:16,288 --> 00:19:19,490 Particularly if it's known to be something that doesn't fit in 258 00:19:19,492 --> 00:19:22,393 with that official narrative that everyone's been spun over the years. 259 00:19:24,029 --> 00:19:27,899 This was the grid of World Trade Center. 260 00:19:27,901 --> 00:19:31,903 My brother's remains were found in, um, K-12, 261 00:19:31,905 --> 00:19:35,006 so show you there where the black dot is 262 00:19:35,008 --> 00:19:39,644 some 20 to 40 meters, um, south of the North Tower. 263 00:19:39,646 --> 00:19:45,716 Um, you know, that for me is not a normal gravity-driven collapse of a building. 264 00:19:45,718 --> 00:19:48,920 [interviewer] If it's not a normal gravity collapse, what is it? 265 00:19:48,922 --> 00:19:53,324 I mean, I'm convinced it's... They used explosives. 266 00:19:53,326 --> 00:19:55,526 - [interviewer] Who's they? - Oh, I don't know. 267 00:19:58,096 --> 00:20:02,533 Afghanistan - that was the first thing to get me to question the events of 9/11. 268 00:20:03,802 --> 00:20:04,969 All wars start with lies. 269 00:20:04,971 --> 00:20:08,206 Uh, history is riddled with that. 270 00:20:09,508 --> 00:20:12,677 There are conspiracy theories, whatever out there, 271 00:20:12,679 --> 00:20:16,147 I don't really think I've sat down with dad and talked about them. 272 00:20:18,350 --> 00:20:21,652 I understand that wanting to be on your own... 273 00:20:21,654 --> 00:20:26,924 It's just easier for dad to deal with without talking about it. 274 00:20:26,926 --> 00:20:29,994 There's an element of sweeping it under the carpet. 275 00:20:31,763 --> 00:20:35,800 It has taken up a lot of my... my time over the years. 276 00:20:35,802 --> 00:20:38,869 Perhaps on a subconscious level I'm channeling energy 277 00:20:38,871 --> 00:20:41,439 to either deal or not deal with my grief. 278 00:20:49,982 --> 00:20:51,515 [Nancy Suhr] I could see the smoke. 279 00:20:52,684 --> 00:20:55,086 I looked at Brianna and I said, "Oh, boy," 280 00:20:55,088 --> 00:20:57,722 I says, "Daddy's going to be tired when he comes home tonight." 281 00:20:57,724 --> 00:21:00,658 I said, "This is going to be a long day for him." 282 00:21:00,660 --> 00:21:06,197 So I drove home, and by the time I drove home I had missed a phone call from him. 283 00:21:07,099 --> 00:21:09,233 And he left a message on the machine. 284 00:21:09,235 --> 00:21:11,168 He was like, "Yeah, baby, it's me. 285 00:21:11,170 --> 00:21:12,870 Just called to tell you that I love you. 286 00:21:12,872 --> 00:21:14,238 I'll talk to you later." 287 00:21:20,712 --> 00:21:23,014 Danny loved being a firefighter. 288 00:21:24,850 --> 00:21:28,653 He would say if we won the lottery, if I wanted to quit my job, fine, 289 00:21:28,655 --> 00:21:30,221 but he was never quitting the fire department. 290 00:21:30,223 --> 00:21:32,790 He just loved every minute of it. 291 00:21:32,792 --> 00:21:35,626 There's a little bit of... of... of crazy in all of them. 292 00:21:35,628 --> 00:21:39,063 And there was a little part of him that liked the fire. 293 00:21:39,831 --> 00:21:43,968 He would be on vacation and I would hear him call the firehouse 294 00:21:43,970 --> 00:21:47,104 and be like, "Did I miss anything? I miss a good job?" 295 00:21:49,741 --> 00:21:51,309 I put the TV on... 296 00:21:52,144 --> 00:21:55,246 and I was like, "This... this is going to be bad." 297 00:21:58,183 --> 00:22:01,085 [Rich] Here I am, 90 floors up. 298 00:22:01,087 --> 00:22:04,488 I said, "All right, let's all go, no one's gonna get left behind." 299 00:22:04,490 --> 00:22:07,325 And this woman Lucy said, "I'm not leaving." 300 00:22:07,893 --> 00:22:10,928 And it's like, "No, Lucy, you're leaving." 301 00:22:10,930 --> 00:22:12,329 And I said, "Put your hands on my shoulder." 302 00:22:12,331 --> 00:22:15,266 So she put her two hands on my shoulder sort of like this in reverse 303 00:22:15,268 --> 00:22:18,502 and I grabbed... I held them like this because she wasn't going to get away. 304 00:22:20,939 --> 00:22:24,008 [N. J. Burkett] As soon as I got to the door, there's a security guy there, 305 00:22:24,010 --> 00:22:26,944 grabs me by my arm, drags me through 306 00:22:26,946 --> 00:22:29,113 and he says, "They need you in the newsroom." 307 00:22:31,516 --> 00:22:33,117 I get in the elevator. 308 00:22:33,552 --> 00:22:37,188 The elevator is four floors, right. 309 00:22:39,858 --> 00:22:45,029 The elevator doors open up, I step off the elevator, I walk five paces, 310 00:22:45,031 --> 00:22:48,933 I step into the newsroom, huge gasp goes up. 311 00:22:56,241 --> 00:22:59,477 [explosion] 312 00:23:07,352 --> 00:23:09,553 [man 7] Oh, my God! Oh, my God! 313 00:23:09,555 --> 00:23:11,489 Oh, [bleep] my. 314 00:23:12,791 --> 00:23:14,658 [man 8] That's the other one. That's terrorists. 315 00:23:14,660 --> 00:23:16,727 [man 8] That's terrorist, bro. 316 00:23:16,729 --> 00:23:19,697 The assistant news director turned to me and he said, 317 00:23:19,699 --> 00:23:24,135 "Grab the next cameraman out of the garage, go downtown." 318 00:23:26,271 --> 00:23:28,539 [interviewer] Was there any [inaudible] on your part? 319 00:23:28,541 --> 00:23:30,274 No, I... I wanted to go. 320 00:23:31,476 --> 00:23:34,912 No, I... No, no, no, that... that's the job, you go. 321 00:23:34,914 --> 00:23:39,750 I looked up and saw the second plane hit the South Tower. 322 00:23:39,752 --> 00:23:46,157 I could see the flames, but most of all I could feel them burrowing deeper 323 00:23:46,159 --> 00:23:49,493 and deeper and deeper, and through my clothes, and through... 324 00:23:51,797 --> 00:23:53,330 my skin. 325 00:23:53,332 --> 00:23:58,135 I began to feel my consciousness slipping away 326 00:23:58,137 --> 00:24:03,507 and I screamed to my son, "Tyler, I can't leave you now. 327 00:24:03,509 --> 00:24:05,409 I won't leave you now." 328 00:24:16,755 --> 00:24:20,157 -[woman 3] Let's go back a little more. -[Lauren] I really can't. 329 00:24:23,728 --> 00:24:25,129 [woman 3] You like about this. 330 00:24:25,131 --> 00:24:27,698 [Lauren] We're watching some really graphic footage 331 00:24:27,700 --> 00:24:29,700 that I don't think you've seen before, 332 00:24:29,702 --> 00:24:31,368 although you were there for a lot of it. 333 00:24:38,944 --> 00:24:41,445 I couldn't stand seeing the pity in their eyes. 334 00:24:44,850 --> 00:24:47,518 It's all in a day's work, huh? 335 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,689 They diagnosed me with an 82.5 percent total body burn, 336 00:24:51,691 --> 00:24:55,025 most of it third and fourth degree. 337 00:24:55,027 --> 00:24:59,997 A fight that no one thought I would be able to come out of. 338 00:25:05,303 --> 00:25:07,471 The three months in the ICU, 339 00:25:07,906 --> 00:25:10,074 I learned to walk again, 340 00:25:10,076 --> 00:25:15,212 uh, to do things like sit up through extraordinary pain 341 00:25:15,214 --> 00:25:18,282 and open wounds that did not heal for years. 342 00:25:19,851 --> 00:25:25,723 I felt then the way I feel today, which is incredibly grateful and strong. 343 00:25:25,725 --> 00:25:31,028 I have so much to do with my life but I feel so sorry for that person. 344 00:25:33,231 --> 00:25:35,366 She was... It's tough to look at. 345 00:25:36,668 --> 00:25:39,436 I got beat up pretty bad. 346 00:25:40,805 --> 00:25:46,877 Usually while I'm standing, I do some movements to keep limber. 347 00:25:46,879 --> 00:25:49,046 I was happier in a sense back then. 348 00:25:49,048 --> 00:25:51,749 Life was simple. 349 00:25:51,751 --> 00:25:54,818 I've spent so much time in bed. 350 00:25:54,820 --> 00:25:58,155 I had, through my injury, that beautiful moment 351 00:25:58,157 --> 00:26:01,892 of being able to be strong and unabashedly myself, 352 00:26:01,894 --> 00:26:04,328 whereas in business, uh, 353 00:26:04,330 --> 00:26:08,799 there wasn't a time that there weren't unwanted passes, 354 00:26:08,801 --> 00:26:13,938 there wasn't a time where a role wasn't most often 355 00:26:13,940 --> 00:26:18,142 given to, um, a man before a woman. 356 00:26:18,843 --> 00:26:23,847 Finally had a moment where I could be myself. 357 00:26:23,849 --> 00:26:25,816 You had one goal, and it was to get back on your feet. 358 00:26:25,818 --> 00:26:27,818 - [Lauren] Yeah, it was really easy. - And you did it. 359 00:26:27,820 --> 00:26:33,324 Now the... the world has rushed back in, in so many ways 360 00:26:33,326 --> 00:26:36,860 and all the, uh... all the debris, 361 00:26:36,862 --> 00:26:41,398 of all the side effects of everything that happened 362 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,069 that hit this family have, uh... 363 00:26:45,804 --> 00:26:47,538 come home in a sense. 364 00:26:47,540 --> 00:26:50,341 I think of my son and, uh... 365 00:26:51,876 --> 00:26:56,246 I just think that, you know, in summation it's all really... 366 00:26:57,248 --> 00:26:58,415 for him. 367 00:27:00,085 --> 00:27:02,486 Put it down, Tyler. Hello kid. 368 00:27:04,956 --> 00:27:06,423 Hi. 369 00:27:06,791 --> 00:27:10,194 [Tyler] You know, what happened with my mom obviously took a toll on me. 370 00:27:11,630 --> 00:27:15,499 - It's mommy. See? - He knows. 371 00:27:15,501 --> 00:27:19,269 [Tyler] Like, I've had, you know, my own emotional bouts, so to speak. 372 00:27:21,806 --> 00:27:27,578 I had PTSD but, in my mind, I didn't think it was as severe. 373 00:27:27,580 --> 00:27:30,714 But my PTSD, I don't think it generates sadness, 374 00:27:30,716 --> 00:27:34,752 I think it generates just extreme levels of anger. 375 00:27:34,754 --> 00:27:38,856 [Lauren] I think though that what you've done is be incredibly brave. 376 00:27:38,858 --> 00:27:43,193 I mean, yeah, as I said like I try to model myself after you, be incredibly brave. 377 00:27:43,195 --> 00:27:48,499 But when you've seen someone that has gone through an attempted murder 378 00:27:48,501 --> 00:27:49,900 and who is physically torn apart... 379 00:27:49,902 --> 00:27:52,536 [Tyler] It doesn't make me sad, it gets me really, really angry. 380 00:27:52,538 --> 00:27:55,506 - [Lauren] Yeah. - [Tyler] I know who that man is. 381 00:27:55,508 --> 00:27:57,574 I'll say his name freely as much as I want, I don't know, you know, 382 00:27:57,576 --> 00:27:59,777 if it would be appropriate to say what I really think 383 00:27:59,779 --> 00:28:03,514 - about that man on this camera but... - [interviewer] Who's that? 384 00:28:03,516 --> 00:28:08,352 Osama bin Laden. I would do ungodly things to that man's body. 385 00:28:08,354 --> 00:28:11,221 I would not let him die for a single second of it. 386 00:28:11,223 --> 00:28:16,326 I would not, you know, let his eyes close or let him try and kill himself. Like... 387 00:28:16,328 --> 00:28:19,830 That man would suffer greatly by my hands. 388 00:28:19,832 --> 00:28:24,134 You know, I wish they brought him here just so I could torture this man. 389 00:28:24,936 --> 00:28:26,470 It shouldn't be like a hobby. 390 00:28:27,272 --> 00:28:29,373 I... I despise... 391 00:28:31,976 --> 00:28:33,977 him to such an extent, like, 392 00:28:33,979 --> 00:28:38,048 it's unbelievable the lengths I'd go just... 393 00:28:38,050 --> 00:28:42,019 to, like, inflict physical pain on him. Like... 394 00:28:44,389 --> 00:28:46,490 Yeah, I'd hurt him. I'd really hurt him. 395 00:29:00,772 --> 00:29:04,041 I guess my mere presence is sometimes a trigger. 396 00:29:05,710 --> 00:29:10,114 Anger about why were you there, why weren't you faster? 397 00:29:10,116 --> 00:29:13,283 How could you not understand what was happening? 398 00:29:15,053 --> 00:29:18,055 Why are you the mother that looks like this? 399 00:29:18,990 --> 00:29:22,359 You know, why didn't you die that day? 400 00:29:22,361 --> 00:29:25,996 Maybe you should have, it would have just been easier for us. 401 00:29:33,872 --> 00:29:37,107 [man 9 on radio] Morning Cleveland, it's United 93 with you at 350. 402 00:29:37,109 --> 00:29:40,711 Intermittent light chop here at 35. Any weather reports? 403 00:29:40,713 --> 00:29:43,347 [man 10 on radio] United 93, Cleveland 13337. 404 00:29:43,349 --> 00:29:47,117 [man 9] 13337 get [inaudible]. 405 00:29:52,991 --> 00:29:57,127 [Melody Homer] Leroy specifically had always wanted to work for United Airlines. 406 00:29:58,530 --> 00:30:01,365 That was his dream job. 407 00:30:04,636 --> 00:30:07,504 Even before he met me, he probably had photo albums 408 00:30:07,506 --> 00:30:10,674 filled of all the places he'd been. 409 00:30:10,676 --> 00:30:13,844 And he would, like, write on the back of them where the place was. 410 00:30:13,846 --> 00:30:16,280 And I'm like, "Why are you writing on the back of them?" 411 00:30:16,282 --> 00:30:19,216 He's like, "Well, what if I forget when I'm old?" 412 00:30:21,252 --> 00:30:26,523 He would send me postcards from places that would come two weeks after he came home. 413 00:30:26,525 --> 00:30:28,492 [laughs] 414 00:30:30,962 --> 00:30:34,064 At some point I turned on the television, um, 415 00:30:34,066 --> 00:30:36,900 my phone started ringing incessantly 416 00:30:36,902 --> 00:30:39,369 with people wanting to know where Leroy was. 417 00:30:39,371 --> 00:30:44,041 And that's when I started to just feel panicked. 418 00:30:46,077 --> 00:30:51,381 They didn't know what was going on and how many more planes had been hijacked. 419 00:30:53,017 --> 00:30:57,855 I had called the United Airlines flight office. 420 00:30:57,857 --> 00:31:00,824 They said everything was okay with his flight 421 00:31:00,826 --> 00:31:06,196 and specifically the phrase the person said, 422 00:31:06,198 --> 00:31:10,467 "Don't worry, I promise you everything is okay." 423 00:31:10,869 --> 00:31:14,137 She said to me, um, 424 00:31:14,139 --> 00:31:17,674 "Would you like me to send a message to him in the cockpit?" 425 00:31:17,676 --> 00:31:21,478 And I said, "Yes, um... 426 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:28,185 please just tell him that I just wanted to make sure that he was okay." 427 00:31:28,187 --> 00:31:32,256 That... that point he would have wondered, "What... what in the world is going on?" 428 00:31:36,261 --> 00:31:40,197 [man 11] [inaudible] are you watching the [inaudible]? 429 00:31:40,199 --> 00:31:43,467 [voice continues indistinctly] 430 00:32:05,623 --> 00:32:09,126 [siren wailing] 431 00:32:09,827 --> 00:32:12,496 [N. J. Berkett] So the plan on the way down 432 00:32:12,498 --> 00:32:17,467 was for us to get into one of the towers. 433 00:32:17,469 --> 00:32:21,705 I want to be there with the firemen, I want to document these heroic rescues, 434 00:32:21,707 --> 00:32:26,310 I want to see the heroism and the bravery of the firefighters. 435 00:32:30,048 --> 00:32:35,218 We parked a block from the North Tower. 436 00:32:36,020 --> 00:32:38,322 You know, I come around the corner, I look up... 437 00:32:40,058 --> 00:32:43,927 I couldn't believe what I was seeing. 438 00:32:43,929 --> 00:32:47,497 There was just no way we could get close enough... 439 00:32:48,066 --> 00:32:51,101 to the... to the towers to get inside. 440 00:32:54,238 --> 00:32:56,707 And I went over to the chief and he directed me to the... 441 00:32:56,709 --> 00:32:58,408 to work out of the North Tower. 442 00:33:00,678 --> 00:33:03,380 I took out the fact that it was a plane. 443 00:33:03,382 --> 00:33:05,882 To me was a fire in a high-rise, we got to get up there, 444 00:33:05,884 --> 00:33:09,720 we got to try to put out the fire and save as many people as we can 445 00:33:09,722 --> 00:33:11,421 above and below the fire. 446 00:33:12,824 --> 00:33:15,492 [Rich] Everybody in the stairwell was very focused on getting out. 447 00:33:15,494 --> 00:33:18,295 Because I was slower with Lucy... 448 00:33:18,297 --> 00:33:21,999 I would be three or four steps below and she would lean into me. 449 00:33:22,001 --> 00:33:24,468 Right, and I would take... Go down like this. 450 00:33:25,570 --> 00:33:27,704 And then we went down slow, slow, slow. 451 00:33:27,706 --> 00:33:33,110 And then as we got down lower, I saw the first firefighter come up. 452 00:33:33,112 --> 00:33:36,413 And I still remember the faces on firemen as they're making their way up, 453 00:33:36,415 --> 00:33:38,115 you know, as we're going down. 454 00:33:38,117 --> 00:33:40,183 You know, their job was just to come up and help people 455 00:33:40,185 --> 00:33:42,519 and there wasn't panic on their faces. 456 00:33:43,421 --> 00:33:45,122 People didn't know what was going on, 457 00:33:45,490 --> 00:33:47,557 but they did, um, 458 00:33:47,559 --> 00:33:50,360 but didn't let that on to anybody. 459 00:33:52,530 --> 00:33:54,731 [N. J. Berkett] You had these guys standing there, 460 00:33:54,733 --> 00:33:58,301 I mean they're standing like... like soldiers waiting to go into battle. 461 00:34:00,104 --> 00:34:07,010 Some of them who were just sort of staring up at the towers unblinking... 462 00:34:09,580 --> 00:34:14,117 wondering if they were going to be sent in clearly. 463 00:34:14,119 --> 00:34:18,588 [man 12] Is there anything that the fire department can do about a fire that high up? 464 00:34:18,590 --> 00:34:20,323 They're up 80, 90 stories. 465 00:34:20,325 --> 00:34:22,559 [woman 4] My gut feeling is no, there... there are... 466 00:34:22,561 --> 00:34:27,764 [Mike Walter] So I worked for USA Today at the time here in Washington, DC. 467 00:34:27,766 --> 00:34:30,867 I was thinking this is probably the biggest story of my lifetime. 468 00:34:30,869 --> 00:34:35,439 And if I get to New York, you know, this is going to be a huge story to cover. 469 00:34:35,441 --> 00:34:38,442 I was cussing like, "God, I wish the traffic would move." 470 00:34:38,444 --> 00:34:42,245 And you're kind of hitting the steering wheel and you're just stuck. 471 00:34:43,815 --> 00:34:46,516 That's when I decided, you know, you need to roll down the window 472 00:34:46,518 --> 00:34:48,518 and kind of calm down, you're going to have a heart attack, 473 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:49,653 you're acting like an idiot and stuff. 474 00:34:49,655 --> 00:34:52,422 And that's when I put my arm out. 475 00:34:54,826 --> 00:34:58,862 [Sheila Moody] It was my first day at the Pentagon. 476 00:34:58,864 --> 00:35:01,731 I, um, had gotten online with an email 477 00:35:01,733 --> 00:35:06,503 and had just, um, pulled up some of my old co-workers from New York, 478 00:35:06,505 --> 00:35:10,740 and sent them an email just to let them know that I was online. 479 00:35:10,742 --> 00:35:13,710 I think I probably put in the text, "Hey, I'm a small fish in a big pond 480 00:35:13,712 --> 00:35:16,646 but, heh... but I'm here." 481 00:35:16,648 --> 00:35:22,886 And it was such a crystal blue sky that day and it was a brisk kind of feel. 482 00:35:22,888 --> 00:35:25,322 And that's when I heard the jet and then I looked up, 483 00:35:25,324 --> 00:35:30,927 and I saw it as it started to turn and bank and dive. 484 00:35:30,929 --> 00:35:36,533 And... and it's just so astonishing. 485 00:35:40,705 --> 00:35:43,773 Holy [bleep], the Pentagon. 486 00:35:43,775 --> 00:35:45,475 [man 13] Where is it? Oh! 487 00:35:48,946 --> 00:35:51,615 [Mike] Leave those cameras running! 488 00:35:51,617 --> 00:35:55,952 A fireball just goes right beside me. 489 00:35:55,954 --> 00:36:01,925 I'm sitting in my cubicle and the first thought that popped in my mind is, 490 00:36:01,927 --> 00:36:04,361 "What kind of a place is this?" 491 00:36:05,930 --> 00:36:10,934 Things were on fire around us, I could hear people moaning. 492 00:36:10,936 --> 00:36:14,471 I heard one lady scream, "I can't move." 493 00:36:15,606 --> 00:36:19,042 And then it was like silence. 494 00:36:20,878 --> 00:36:23,146 [Mike] They say, you know, things are in slow motion. 495 00:36:23,148 --> 00:36:26,016 It really did seem like it was in slow motion. 496 00:36:29,854 --> 00:36:32,222 Everybody on that plane is dead. 497 00:36:33,524 --> 00:36:37,227 All those areas where people were sitting at desks or at their job 498 00:36:37,229 --> 00:36:39,996 or, you know, or maybe they're getting a cup of coffee or whatever, 499 00:36:39,998 --> 00:36:42,532 they're all incinerated. 500 00:36:43,634 --> 00:36:47,070 [Sheila] There was another lady behind me named Antoinette. 501 00:36:47,072 --> 00:36:52,609 Antoinette had this beautiful purple sweater that she had worn to work that day. 502 00:36:52,611 --> 00:36:57,147 And I caught a quick glimpse of her silhouette through the smoke 503 00:36:57,149 --> 00:37:00,016 and I could see that it looked like her sweater 504 00:37:00,018 --> 00:37:02,752 had kind of melted or burned on her. 505 00:37:02,754 --> 00:37:05,522 She said she... she said "My skin is on fire." 506 00:37:05,524 --> 00:37:08,959 She says, "I feel like I'm just burning. My skin is on fire." 507 00:37:08,961 --> 00:37:12,295 And I told her, I said, "I know it hurts, baby, I know it hurts, 508 00:37:12,297 --> 00:37:13,663 but we have got to find a way to get out of here." 509 00:37:13,665 --> 00:37:16,533 And then I heard a voice, "Is there anybody in here?" 510 00:37:16,535 --> 00:37:20,036 And I called back, "Yes, we're here!" He says, "I can't see you." 511 00:37:20,038 --> 00:37:22,872 I was like, "I can't see you either," I said, "but we're in here. 512 00:37:22,874 --> 00:37:23,940 We're in here." 513 00:37:23,942 --> 00:37:26,676 And as I'm reaching out through the smoke, 514 00:37:26,678 --> 00:37:29,713 there's a hand on the other side and he grabs me, 515 00:37:29,715 --> 00:37:32,148 and he pulls me and he pulls me out. 516 00:37:32,150 --> 00:37:36,886 I mean it was like a cruise missile with wings went right there 517 00:37:36,888 --> 00:37:38,622 and slammed right into the Pentagon. 518 00:37:38,624 --> 00:37:41,157 And the toughest thing for me right now is, 519 00:37:41,525 --> 00:37:43,093 I've got a 14-year-old daughter 520 00:37:43,095 --> 00:37:46,896 and a lot of her friends have parents who work in the Pentagon 521 00:37:46,898 --> 00:37:48,898 and I just talked to her on the phone 522 00:37:48,900 --> 00:37:50,533 and those kids are going through agony tonight. 523 00:37:50,535 --> 00:37:52,535 They don't know if they're okay. 524 00:37:52,537 --> 00:37:58,642 At some point a public affairs guy from the Air Force came up to me and he said, 525 00:37:58,644 --> 00:38:02,145 "I heard that you witnessed the plane going to the Pentagon." 526 00:38:04,515 --> 00:38:07,384 I just started like sobbing uncontrollably. 527 00:38:07,386 --> 00:38:12,689 I was just like... I dissolved into tears and I was really kind of embarrassed about it 528 00:38:12,691 --> 00:38:17,827 because here's this guy in uniform and, you know, quite buff, and very military, 529 00:38:17,829 --> 00:38:22,999 and here I am this kind of like weak-kneed, uh, guy crying. 530 00:38:23,001 --> 00:38:25,902 And I said to him, I said, you know, "This isn't like me," 531 00:38:25,904 --> 00:38:27,437 you know, and, "I've been... Went to Somalia 532 00:38:27,439 --> 00:38:30,640 and I've covered all these stories, I don't know why I'm acting like this." 533 00:38:30,642 --> 00:38:36,513 And I'll never forget this, he, uh, threw his arms around me and started hugging me, 534 00:38:36,515 --> 00:38:39,115 and he's like, "You're in a state of shock," 535 00:38:39,117 --> 00:38:41,051 you know, "This is perfectly natural. 536 00:38:41,053 --> 00:38:43,320 You shouldn't be ashamed of anything." 537 00:38:45,056 --> 00:38:47,924 [Katie Walter] Man, this is really good with this tomato. 538 00:38:47,926 --> 00:38:50,593 [Mike] It's really good with the basil just incredible. 539 00:38:50,595 --> 00:38:51,961 [Katie] Just incredible. 540 00:38:51,963 --> 00:38:55,899 [Mike] So we had a guy who lived two doors over, right. 541 00:38:55,901 --> 00:38:59,769 He'd been in Iraq and in these kind of situations. 542 00:38:59,771 --> 00:39:02,906 He said the problem was, you know, you weren't activated. 543 00:39:02,908 --> 00:39:05,775 He goes, "When I get activated to go overseas, 544 00:39:05,777 --> 00:39:09,646 - I'm activated, I'm prepared for that." And, uh... - [Katie] I agree. 545 00:39:09,648 --> 00:39:12,716 Yeah, and he said, you know, "You just weren't activated that day, 546 00:39:12,718 --> 00:39:15,552 so, um, that's why it was so shocking and jarring." 547 00:39:15,554 --> 00:39:19,289 We've had conspiracy theorists say that he... 548 00:39:19,291 --> 00:39:23,026 It just was an illusion to him, that it was really a papier-mache bomb. 549 00:39:23,028 --> 00:39:25,662 -[interviewer] Are you serious? -Oh, my God, you haven't... 550 00:39:25,664 --> 00:39:27,831 he unfortunately invited him to our house. 551 00:39:27,833 --> 00:39:28,832 [Mike] Okay, all right, all right. 552 00:39:28,834 --> 00:39:30,734 [Katie] Truly he was fascinated. 553 00:39:30,736 --> 00:39:34,104 Yeah, because I mean to me it was just like it's all out there, 554 00:39:34,106 --> 00:39:37,040 it's so easy to understand that this really happened 555 00:39:37,042 --> 00:39:39,075 for somebody to kind of question it at all. 556 00:39:39,077 --> 00:39:41,745 I just kind of wanted to understand why. 557 00:39:41,747 --> 00:39:45,682 So... Uh, so she's right, she was really mad at me, 558 00:39:45,684 --> 00:39:47,951 the kids were really mad at me I had these people over. 559 00:39:47,953 --> 00:39:51,121 We barbecued some chicken and stuff and sat there with them. 560 00:39:51,123 --> 00:39:54,124 But I was just trying to, you know, understand them. 561 00:39:54,126 --> 00:39:56,593 I mean, to me it was fascinating. 562 00:39:56,595 --> 00:40:01,231 So I told him what I saw that day and he said, 563 00:40:01,233 --> 00:40:04,100 "Well, you know, sometimes your eyes can play tricks on you." 564 00:40:04,102 --> 00:40:05,802 [Katie scoffs] 565 00:40:05,869 --> 00:40:08,772 Really, really sad stuff. 566 00:40:08,774 --> 00:40:12,809 [Mike] The result is, you know, somebody invites you to do an interview like this 567 00:40:12,811 --> 00:40:17,781 and you have an opportunity to talk, you talk because their narrative's out there. 568 00:40:17,783 --> 00:40:22,452 And if your narrative isn't out there competing against their narrative, then... 569 00:40:22,454 --> 00:40:26,189 You know, if this is the space and they're occupying most of it, 570 00:40:26,191 --> 00:40:29,259 then people start thinking that way, they start drifting in that direction. 571 00:40:29,261 --> 00:40:31,094 And you don't want that to happen. 572 00:40:32,530 --> 00:40:33,463 Look at the time... 573 00:40:34,932 --> 00:40:35,965 it's 9:11. 574 00:40:35,967 --> 00:40:38,067 - Oh, it's that's so funny. - [Mike laughs] 575 00:40:45,309 --> 00:40:47,043 [Bill] I'm in the North Tower. 576 00:40:47,045 --> 00:40:51,981 I saw a bunch of civilians that were exiting a staircase. 577 00:40:52,817 --> 00:40:54,851 My thinking was, "Let's go to that staircase, 578 00:40:54,853 --> 00:40:59,122 find out how we can direct the people the quickest way to get out of this building." 579 00:40:59,124 --> 00:41:03,793 And... and it looked like, uh, a bunch of little ants coming out of an ant hole 580 00:41:03,795 --> 00:41:05,762 and they didn't know where they were going. 581 00:41:05,764 --> 00:41:11,701 I still remember so vividly that point of turning around the last stairwell 582 00:41:11,703 --> 00:41:17,440 and seeing flash of light coming in because you now finally made it out. 583 00:41:21,212 --> 00:41:23,813 [Bill] I wanted to know how much of the building we were evacuating 584 00:41:23,815 --> 00:41:27,584 to see how well we were doing. 585 00:41:27,586 --> 00:41:31,654 I remember the highest number I was told was the 70th floor. 586 00:41:31,656 --> 00:41:32,956 "What floor you're from?" And they are 70th. 587 00:41:32,958 --> 00:41:35,058 And I said, "We're doing a good job." 588 00:41:38,062 --> 00:41:42,665 And then, uh, only moments later... 589 00:41:42,667 --> 00:41:45,969 it seemed I heard... I heard a loud rumble coming from above. 590 00:41:49,974 --> 00:41:52,609 Take two. Take two and two, one. 591 00:41:52,611 --> 00:41:55,378 This is as close as we can get to the base of the World Trade Center. 592 00:41:55,380 --> 00:41:59,782 You can see the firemen assembled here, the police officers, FBI agents, 593 00:41:59,784 --> 00:42:05,321 and you can see the two towers, a huge explosion, raining debris on all of us. 594 00:42:05,323 --> 00:42:07,223 Got to get out of the way! 595 00:42:07,225 --> 00:42:09,592 [sirens blaring] 596 00:42:09,594 --> 00:42:12,161 [rumbling] 597 00:42:16,634 --> 00:42:20,403 [Bill] I remember I'm thinking it was the building I was in that was coming down. 598 00:42:20,405 --> 00:42:23,606 It was the loudest noise you ever heard in your life. 599 00:42:23,608 --> 00:42:28,778 The twisting metal and the building coming down as eight subway cars 600 00:42:28,780 --> 00:42:33,616 coming into a train station at the same time with their brakes squealing. 601 00:42:33,618 --> 00:42:37,120 In my memory, it was silent and slow motion 602 00:42:37,122 --> 00:42:41,157 but it must have been so, so loud because this noise made me look up. 603 00:42:41,992 --> 00:42:44,327 And I look up to see the South Tower collapse, 604 00:42:44,828 --> 00:42:47,196 this big cloud coming down. 605 00:42:48,999 --> 00:42:51,868 There was a fire engine on the other side of the road. 606 00:42:51,870 --> 00:42:54,404 I hadn't even made it and it was down. 607 00:43:04,815 --> 00:43:07,083 It was 110-story building. 608 00:43:08,652 --> 00:43:11,154 It bought us a couple of seconds. 609 00:43:11,156 --> 00:43:14,190 I turned around and there was a door. 610 00:43:15,492 --> 00:43:17,260 The door wasn't locked. 611 00:43:17,995 --> 00:43:19,395 Go through the door... 612 00:43:21,031 --> 00:43:22,298 and we ran through the door. 613 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,334 There were people who... 614 00:43:27,304 --> 00:43:32,175 There were people who, um, did not, um, get to the door 615 00:43:32,177 --> 00:43:34,010 that, um... 616 00:43:34,445 --> 00:43:38,047 that... that... that did not survive. 617 00:43:41,285 --> 00:43:44,087 [Vanessa] To even see the sun sort of coming through this haze, 618 00:43:45,723 --> 00:43:50,159 an officer had come up to me and said, "Do you want me to take you away from this?" 619 00:43:51,629 --> 00:43:54,564 I'd seen my flip-flop peering out of the rubble 620 00:43:54,566 --> 00:43:58,034 and I turned and said, you know, "I need to get my flip-flop." 621 00:43:59,870 --> 00:44:02,939 He said to me, "I think you've got more important things to worry about." 622 00:44:02,941 --> 00:44:04,340 We just walked away. 623 00:44:06,010 --> 00:44:07,777 [man 14] Marty, I'm [inaudible]. 624 00:44:07,779 --> 00:44:10,079 We don't know what's happened inside. 625 00:44:10,081 --> 00:44:13,116 What we know we have to do is just keep running the other way. 626 00:44:13,118 --> 00:44:17,120 The firemen are going this way, so are the police officers. 627 00:44:18,288 --> 00:44:19,389 We don't know what's happening. 628 00:44:19,923 --> 00:44:22,825 The only light around was my flashlight. 629 00:44:22,827 --> 00:44:24,594 Now I heard these people screaming on the other side of that door 630 00:44:24,596 --> 00:44:26,729 "Help! Help!" and all. 631 00:44:26,731 --> 00:44:29,932 I said, these are the same people I just told, "Good job, you made it." 632 00:44:29,934 --> 00:44:32,802 And I felt so responsible for them. 633 00:44:32,804 --> 00:44:36,205 Plus, the people that are inside the stairwell were with me. 634 00:44:36,207 --> 00:44:38,975 I tried getting that doorway open 635 00:44:38,977 --> 00:44:40,910 and I couldn't, it seemed blocked. 636 00:44:40,912 --> 00:44:45,548 I was watching everything unfold on TV 637 00:44:45,550 --> 00:44:51,888 and I just got this wave of... of... of... panic and just sheer terror. 638 00:44:51,890 --> 00:44:55,291 And then the phone clicked and it was Brian from the firehouse. 639 00:44:55,293 --> 00:44:58,227 And he said to me, um, "Nancy, Danny's been hurt. 640 00:44:58,229 --> 00:44:59,529 I'm coming to get you." 641 00:45:00,898 --> 00:45:03,766 And you know that's not good. 642 00:45:03,768 --> 00:45:07,236 Like, they're not coming to get you if he broke his arm. 643 00:45:09,740 --> 00:45:12,108 [indistinct dialogue] 644 00:45:12,710 --> 00:45:14,510 [N. J. Berkett] I said to Marty, I said, 645 00:45:14,512 --> 00:45:16,412 "You know what, you got to roll on everything. 646 00:45:17,514 --> 00:45:20,016 Roll on everything." 647 00:45:20,018 --> 00:45:22,251 And I said roll until you run out of tape... 648 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:24,787 because this is history. 649 00:45:24,789 --> 00:45:28,624 And this is literally the first draft of history. 650 00:45:28,626 --> 00:45:31,494 Just tell me, what... What did you see? What did it look like? 651 00:45:31,496 --> 00:45:34,964 Clearly people could not even form words. 652 00:45:34,966 --> 00:45:38,201 [crying] 653 00:45:40,204 --> 00:45:42,305 That was my first real moment 654 00:45:42,307 --> 00:45:45,308 where I stood back from it 655 00:45:45,809 --> 00:45:47,677 and began to process 656 00:45:47,679 --> 00:45:49,912 the enormity of what had happened. 657 00:45:49,914 --> 00:45:54,083 I was in newsman mode for the, you know... 658 00:45:54,085 --> 00:45:57,320 the... the hour leading up to all of that. 659 00:45:58,956 --> 00:46:00,957 [Nancy] Brian picked me up. 660 00:46:01,625 --> 00:46:04,260 We didn't speak the whole ride. 661 00:46:04,262 --> 00:46:08,464 But there was not one car on the road, 662 00:46:08,966 --> 00:46:10,366 just us. 663 00:46:10,901 --> 00:46:12,468 It was eerie. 664 00:46:15,806 --> 00:46:17,507 We pull up to Bellevue 665 00:46:18,776 --> 00:46:21,778 and there are nurses and doctors, 666 00:46:21,780 --> 00:46:23,513 and they're standing outside. 667 00:46:24,348 --> 00:46:26,082 No one was coming. 668 00:46:26,817 --> 00:46:29,352 And I ran inside. 669 00:46:29,354 --> 00:46:31,521 They were lined up in the hallway, 670 00:46:31,523 --> 00:46:34,023 all of the guys from his firehouse. 671 00:46:34,025 --> 00:46:35,958 And Chief Jankowski stood up. 672 00:46:36,093 --> 00:46:37,560 And I said, "Where is he?" 673 00:46:39,062 --> 00:46:43,032 And he just looked at me and he was like, um... 674 00:46:44,168 --> 00:46:47,103 "Nancy..." And I'm like, "Where is he?" 675 00:46:47,738 --> 00:46:50,206 And he was like, "He's gone." 676 00:46:51,041 --> 00:46:56,045 I looked up and there was Chris Barry, 677 00:46:56,047 --> 00:46:58,014 another guy who was with Dan that day, 678 00:46:58,016 --> 00:47:01,150 and he was gray... 679 00:47:02,119 --> 00:47:03,953 and no one would look at me. 680 00:47:04,688 --> 00:47:06,222 No one would look at me. 681 00:47:08,759 --> 00:47:11,194 [Bill] John D'Allara, this emergency service cop, 682 00:47:11,196 --> 00:47:13,362 was coming down the stairs at that point 683 00:47:14,064 --> 00:47:15,998 and he asked me, "What's up?" 684 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,734 Just like that, like, "What's up?" And I said, uh, 685 00:47:18,736 --> 00:47:20,770 "I think we're trapped in here." 686 00:47:20,772 --> 00:47:22,004 I said, "Get all these civilians." 687 00:47:22,006 --> 00:47:24,307 I said, "The door seems blocked." 688 00:47:24,309 --> 00:47:27,410 And then he and I, we just started pounding against that door. 689 00:47:28,011 --> 00:47:30,112 And each time we hit it, 690 00:47:30,114 --> 00:47:31,714 we got it open a little bit more 691 00:47:31,716 --> 00:47:33,583 and finally we got it open wide enough. 692 00:47:33,585 --> 00:47:36,986 And I remember telling him, "You stay here at the door 693 00:47:36,988 --> 00:47:38,988 and keep this door open and I'm going to go out 694 00:47:38,990 --> 00:47:40,556 in that area with my flashlight 695 00:47:40,558 --> 00:47:44,093 and I'm going to bring those people back to this doorway." 696 00:47:44,095 --> 00:47:47,096 And I remember telling them, "If you could see my light, I'm a fireman, 697 00:47:47,197 --> 00:47:48,664 come to my light." 698 00:47:48,666 --> 00:47:51,267 About 15 people came to my light 699 00:47:51,269 --> 00:47:53,502 and I remember putting a hand on the wall, 700 00:47:53,504 --> 00:47:55,905 and said, "Follow this wall back, it goes to a doorway 701 00:47:55,907 --> 00:47:58,808 and go in that doorway," and they did. 702 00:47:58,810 --> 00:48:00,776 And it seemed to evacuate that area. 703 00:48:00,811 --> 00:48:03,646 And John came over to me. 704 00:48:03,648 --> 00:48:07,516 I said, "Where do you work?" And he says, "ESU, too, up in Harlem." 705 00:48:07,518 --> 00:48:10,119 And I said, "We come from opposite ends of the city 706 00:48:10,121 --> 00:48:13,089 basically to respond here." And, yeah, we have. And... 707 00:48:13,091 --> 00:48:14,991 And then out of nowhere... 708 00:48:18,695 --> 00:48:22,465 he says to me, "My wife's name is Carol." 709 00:48:24,601 --> 00:48:27,503 I remember, I said to him, "My wife's name is Cynthia." 710 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,009 And then he says he has a seven-year-old boy. 711 00:48:33,810 --> 00:48:36,045 I said I got a six-year-old boy. 712 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,016 And I believe he said that he had a two-year-old boy. 713 00:48:41,518 --> 00:48:43,920 And I have a two-month-old boy, I said. 714 00:48:43,922 --> 00:48:45,054 That's what we talked about 715 00:48:45,056 --> 00:48:48,424 for the next ten minutes or so, our family. 716 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,661 I don't know whatever brought that upon us 717 00:48:51,663 --> 00:48:53,496 to be talking about our families. 718 00:48:53,498 --> 00:48:56,365 That's never happened in an emergency situation. 719 00:48:58,168 --> 00:48:59,468 It's almost like... 720 00:49:01,538 --> 00:49:03,239 you're telling the other person... 721 00:49:06,076 --> 00:49:07,944 your eulogy or something. 722 00:49:12,015 --> 00:49:15,284 Apparently what had happened was... 723 00:49:16,853 --> 00:49:20,489 somebody who, uh, had fallen from the building 724 00:49:20,491 --> 00:49:21,958 landed on him... 725 00:49:23,927 --> 00:49:28,064 as he and his group were going into the South Tower. 726 00:49:29,967 --> 00:49:34,236 It cracked his forehead in half... 727 00:49:35,305 --> 00:49:37,106 broke his nose, 728 00:49:37,908 --> 00:49:39,442 broke his eye socket, 729 00:49:39,977 --> 00:49:41,277 broke his neck. 730 00:49:46,183 --> 00:49:48,918 I just remember they brought me in 731 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,821 and he was covered up to here. 732 00:49:51,823 --> 00:49:53,889 I remember just kissing him on the cheek 733 00:49:53,891 --> 00:49:55,291 and whispering in his ear... 734 00:49:56,126 --> 00:49:58,894 and telling him that I would always love him, 735 00:49:58,896 --> 00:50:03,065 and I would make sure Brianna knew him. 736 00:50:03,067 --> 00:50:05,534 And she would know that he was a wonderful man... 737 00:50:06,837 --> 00:50:09,472 and he would be part of our lives forever. 738 00:50:11,808 --> 00:50:13,209 He was so proud of the fact 739 00:50:13,211 --> 00:50:16,145 that he played football since he was six years old 740 00:50:16,313 --> 00:50:18,748 and never broke his nose. 741 00:50:18,750 --> 00:50:22,485 And I remember thinking, "God, he's got to be [bleep] off he broke his nose." 742 00:50:24,321 --> 00:50:27,490 From what I understand, the person who ended up hitting him was a woman. 743 00:50:27,492 --> 00:50:28,858 Um... 744 00:50:28,860 --> 00:50:31,027 People have asked me, you know, like, 745 00:50:31,029 --> 00:50:35,498 aren't you angry and I'm like, "Are you kidding me?" 746 00:50:35,500 --> 00:50:38,934 What... what... what was her last thoughts? 747 00:50:38,936 --> 00:50:42,538 What... The nightmare... The nightmare. 748 00:50:42,540 --> 00:50:44,940 But he was going into the South Tower. 749 00:50:45,742 --> 00:50:47,810 The South Tower collapsed. 750 00:50:47,812 --> 00:50:52,248 He was going to die one way or the other that day. 751 00:50:58,055 --> 00:51:00,756 I just remember thinking I have to go home. 752 00:51:00,758 --> 00:51:02,224 I have to do laundry. 753 00:51:02,659 --> 00:51:04,727 I have to get Brianna. 754 00:51:04,729 --> 00:51:06,896 I need it normal. I need to go home. 755 00:51:06,898 --> 00:51:09,698 I need to get my daughter and I need to go home. 756 00:51:09,700 --> 00:51:11,967 And then it's going to be okay if I go home. 757 00:51:11,969 --> 00:51:13,302 If I just go home, it's going to be okay. 758 00:51:20,177 --> 00:51:22,244 And here comes Brianna. 759 00:51:24,214 --> 00:51:26,215 "Where's Daddy? Where's Daddy?" 760 00:51:27,517 --> 00:51:28,984 And I knelt down, 761 00:51:28,986 --> 00:51:32,054 and I looked her straight in the face and I said, 762 00:51:32,823 --> 00:51:34,523 "He went to heaven to be with God." 763 00:51:37,627 --> 00:51:40,296 And she said, "Why?" 764 00:51:41,031 --> 00:51:44,233 And I said, "Because a bad thing happened today 765 00:51:44,235 --> 00:51:47,369 and God needed good people to help Him." 766 00:51:49,139 --> 00:51:52,108 And she was kind of like, "Okay," 767 00:51:52,943 --> 00:51:53,976 and she walked away. 768 00:52:02,052 --> 00:52:03,419 It's been a while. 769 00:52:06,089 --> 00:52:09,325 [recorded voice] Tuesday, 9:06 a.m. 770 00:52:09,793 --> 00:52:16,165 [indistinct dialogue] 771 00:52:18,768 --> 00:52:19,935 It's like, "Hey babe, just called... 772 00:52:19,937 --> 00:52:22,037 called to say that I'm... I love you. 773 00:52:22,039 --> 00:52:24,340 Everything's fine. I'll talk to you later." 774 00:52:25,942 --> 00:52:29,979 [indistinct dialogue] 775 00:52:29,981 --> 00:52:33,516 In the beginning, right after he died, 776 00:52:33,518 --> 00:52:35,851 I'd listen to it a hundred times a day. 777 00:52:35,853 --> 00:52:40,055 [indistinct dialogue] 778 00:52:40,790 --> 00:52:42,391 [recorded voice] End of messages. 779 00:52:44,494 --> 00:52:48,531 It was just about me holding it together... 780 00:52:50,133 --> 00:52:51,467 making sure she gets to school, 781 00:52:51,469 --> 00:52:52,801 making sure she goes to parties, 782 00:52:52,803 --> 00:52:55,871 making sure her home life is warm and loving and... 783 00:52:55,873 --> 00:52:58,174 and she was always going to have me. 784 00:52:58,176 --> 00:53:01,243 It was... It didn't matter, she was always going to have me. 785 00:53:01,245 --> 00:53:03,045 Where's Brianna? In her beautiful room? 786 00:53:03,047 --> 00:53:04,079 I am. 787 00:53:04,081 --> 00:53:06,382 - Where are you? - I'm right here. 788 00:53:10,887 --> 00:53:12,821 And sometimes there was guilt. 789 00:53:12,823 --> 00:53:14,089 I would... I would feel guilty 790 00:53:14,091 --> 00:53:16,892 that I am getting the chance to watch her grow. 791 00:53:16,894 --> 00:53:18,961 And people would be like, "Well, you should enjoy it, 792 00:53:18,963 --> 00:53:21,897 you know, twice as much for him." And I'm like, 793 00:53:21,899 --> 00:53:24,200 "Yeah, that's... That's not a thing." 794 00:53:27,137 --> 00:53:28,938 I wore black for a long time. 795 00:53:28,940 --> 00:53:30,906 Crazy Italian lady. 796 00:53:30,908 --> 00:53:35,611 Um, but everything that I wore with him, 797 00:53:35,613 --> 00:53:36,979 I packed away 798 00:53:36,981 --> 00:53:41,884 with his clothes because that was my life with him. 799 00:53:41,886 --> 00:53:43,219 [interviewer] How long did you wear black for? 800 00:53:43,221 --> 00:53:44,954 Till 2005. 801 00:53:44,956 --> 00:53:46,055 [interviewer] You only wore black? 802 00:53:46,057 --> 00:53:47,223 I only wore black. 803 00:53:47,958 --> 00:53:48,757 [interviewer] Wow. 804 00:53:48,759 --> 00:53:49,525 Yeah. 805 00:53:55,031 --> 00:53:58,000 It feels disloyal... 806 00:53:58,002 --> 00:54:02,371 to not be in excruciating pain every day like you were. 807 00:54:04,007 --> 00:54:05,241 It hurt to breathe. 808 00:54:08,111 --> 00:54:10,746 Some people actually have full other lives. 809 00:54:10,748 --> 00:54:12,214 They... they remarry. 810 00:54:12,216 --> 00:54:13,849 They have children with that person. 811 00:54:13,851 --> 00:54:16,518 They... they have the dream again. 812 00:54:17,687 --> 00:54:20,789 So does that make me pathetic? 813 00:54:20,791 --> 00:54:23,826 I think it just makes me heartbroken. 814 00:54:23,828 --> 00:54:26,629 I think it just makes me somebody who lost 815 00:54:26,631 --> 00:54:29,031 her favorite person in the whole world. 816 00:54:39,843 --> 00:54:42,911 When we join the military and raise our right hand 817 00:54:42,913 --> 00:54:45,447 and take our oath of service or oath of office, 818 00:54:45,749 --> 00:54:47,850 we understand 819 00:54:47,852 --> 00:54:52,288 that there's the potential for us to lose our lives. 820 00:54:53,156 --> 00:54:56,191 All of us shared the same emotion 821 00:54:56,193 --> 00:55:00,162 of urgency to get airborne, 822 00:55:00,229 --> 00:55:02,131 to protect and defend. 823 00:55:02,133 --> 00:55:03,966 It was after the Pentagon was hit 824 00:55:03,968 --> 00:55:06,535 that Vice President Cheney said, 825 00:55:06,537 --> 00:55:07,736 "Aren't there fighters at Andrews?" 826 00:55:07,738 --> 00:55:09,405 Like, "Someone get them airborne." 827 00:55:09,407 --> 00:55:13,108 And that orders came from him through the Secret Service. 828 00:55:13,110 --> 00:55:15,010 But we were still configured for training. 829 00:55:15,012 --> 00:55:16,244 You know, I've had people say, 830 00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:18,714 "Well, how come you didn't have missiles on board?" 831 00:55:18,716 --> 00:55:19,982 We don't fly around with hot missiles. 832 00:55:19,984 --> 00:55:22,017 We don't fly around with hot bombs. 833 00:55:22,019 --> 00:55:24,853 We don't even store them all made up together. 834 00:55:24,855 --> 00:55:26,922 They live in the bomb dump way like 835 00:55:26,924 --> 00:55:29,958 far off beyond the golf course and the fishing lake. 836 00:55:31,094 --> 00:55:32,127 They believed there was an aircraft 837 00:55:32,129 --> 00:55:34,029 that had turned around 838 00:55:34,031 --> 00:55:35,831 and was coming down the Potomac River, 839 00:55:35,833 --> 00:55:39,468 which would mean headed for the White House or the Capitol Building. 840 00:55:40,937 --> 00:55:44,273 That aircraft had been taken over by terrorists. 841 00:55:46,409 --> 00:55:49,078 The fate of those passengers was sealed. 842 00:55:51,114 --> 00:55:54,116 In that sense, they were already dead. 843 00:55:55,285 --> 00:55:59,154 And our job was simply to prevent more deaths. 844 00:56:00,123 --> 00:56:02,858 So we knew then 845 00:56:02,860 --> 00:56:06,228 that was when we would have to ram the jet. 846 00:56:13,002 --> 00:56:15,070 We're airborne. 847 00:56:15,072 --> 00:56:17,106 And Sass says, "I'll take the cockpit," 848 00:56:17,507 --> 00:56:19,041 and I would take the tail. 849 00:56:22,145 --> 00:56:24,279 Like a kamikaze, 850 00:56:24,614 --> 00:56:27,116 neither one of us would be coming back. 851 00:56:35,792 --> 00:56:39,194 [Rick King] Shanks was just a nice small town about 200 people, I think. 852 00:56:44,434 --> 00:56:46,502 Great place to raise children. 853 00:56:46,504 --> 00:56:49,171 You know, it's a small town but still a lot of things to do. 854 00:56:50,974 --> 00:56:54,510 You know, have a great little league baseball program 855 00:56:54,512 --> 00:56:56,979 that, you know, the community has... 856 00:56:58,081 --> 00:56:59,448 and sports like that. 857 00:57:01,184 --> 00:57:02,518 This isn't going well. 858 00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:04,253 [chuckles] 859 00:57:05,555 --> 00:57:06,955 In 2001, September, 860 00:57:06,957 --> 00:57:10,058 my wife and I owned Ida store on main street. 861 00:57:10,060 --> 00:57:12,361 Then I'm back and forth, you know, through the morning 862 00:57:12,363 --> 00:57:13,829 from the store to the house, you know, 863 00:57:13,831 --> 00:57:16,298 around, I don't know, nine o'clock or so, 864 00:57:16,300 --> 00:57:18,901 turned TV on and was watching, these things were unfolding. 865 00:57:18,903 --> 00:57:21,537 [man 15] The plan that they hope they never have to implement, 866 00:57:21,539 --> 00:57:22,904 the plan that they spent years... 867 00:57:22,972 --> 00:57:26,308 [Rick] Right around ten o'clock, I called my sister Jody. 868 00:57:27,177 --> 00:57:28,911 As we were talking, she said to me, 869 00:57:28,913 --> 00:57:30,512 "Rick," she said. "I hear a plane." 870 00:57:31,014 --> 00:57:33,148 And I said, "Okay." 871 00:57:33,150 --> 00:57:35,083 Didn't really think much of it. 872 00:57:35,885 --> 00:57:37,019 And she said, "No, it's... it's loud." 873 00:57:37,021 --> 00:57:40,923 [whirring] 874 00:57:40,925 --> 00:57:44,059 Immediately I heard the plane, I heard the engine's roaring. 875 00:57:47,831 --> 00:57:49,665 Seconds later, 876 00:57:49,667 --> 00:57:55,771 it hit and my porch just rumbled and shook, 877 00:57:55,773 --> 00:57:59,975 and I saw the fireball going up in the sky. 878 00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:05,681 Jody said to me, 879 00:58:05,683 --> 00:58:06,682 "Oh, my God, it crashed!" 880 00:58:06,684 --> 00:58:10,252 And I said, "I know," and I said, "I got to go." 881 00:58:10,254 --> 00:58:12,187 [man 16 on radio] Somerset County, all units responding. 882 00:58:12,189 --> 00:58:13,455 Plane down. 883 00:58:14,057 --> 00:58:16,425 Switch to central operation. 884 00:58:17,961 --> 00:58:19,962 [Rick] I was the assistant fire chief at the time, 885 00:58:19,964 --> 00:58:24,066 but we've never trained for commercial airline crashes. 886 00:58:26,169 --> 00:58:30,239 [Melody] Someone from United Airlines called again. 887 00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,208 He asks me, "Are you alone?" 888 00:58:36,279 --> 00:58:40,015 And he said, "I think that last plane was LeRoy's." 889 00:58:40,817 --> 00:58:42,117 And... 890 00:58:43,620 --> 00:58:46,054 I was, um, next to the window. 891 00:58:47,557 --> 00:58:51,894 I remember just slamming my hand against the glass. 892 00:58:51,896 --> 00:58:54,029 I was... I was just beating it and I was... 893 00:58:54,031 --> 00:58:57,065 I was just saying, "No, no, no." 894 00:59:05,642 --> 00:59:07,943 I... I just said, "You pro... 895 00:59:07,945 --> 00:59:09,945 you promised me that he was okay." 896 00:59:09,947 --> 00:59:12,981 [crying] 897 00:59:19,756 --> 00:59:22,357 [Rick] I remember pulling up, you know, seeing the scene. 898 00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,528 I just remember getting out and walking 899 00:59:26,530 --> 00:59:28,430 and I'm wondering, "Where is this plane?" 900 00:59:30,934 --> 00:59:33,135 There was no fuselage, there were no wings, 901 00:59:33,137 --> 00:59:35,137 there were no... there was no tail. 902 00:59:35,838 --> 00:59:37,306 There's nothing, you know, 903 00:59:37,308 --> 00:59:39,041 just debris through the... through the trees, 904 00:59:39,043 --> 00:59:40,175 you know, into... 905 00:59:40,177 --> 00:59:44,012 into the woods but, you know, there are no people. 906 00:59:48,084 --> 00:59:50,619 [Melody] What we were explained is that 907 00:59:50,621 --> 00:59:53,221 with all the jet fuel and the fire, 908 00:59:53,223 --> 00:59:57,526 the human body is so made up of liquid that... 909 01:00:00,263 --> 01:00:01,296 You know... 910 01:00:03,066 --> 01:00:06,301 there wasn't very much left of anything. 911 01:00:09,973 --> 01:00:11,640 [Rick] As I was walking down the power line, 912 01:00:11,642 --> 01:00:13,141 I was looking on the ground and... 913 01:00:13,143 --> 01:00:17,512 and then I did start to see some small pieces, body parts. 914 01:00:18,948 --> 01:00:21,450 Bone fragments, um, some skin, 915 01:00:21,452 --> 01:00:23,318 a little bit of blood here and there, 916 01:00:26,089 --> 01:00:29,257 But nothing that I could recognize that it was a human being. 917 01:00:39,869 --> 01:00:41,703 [interviewer] In the days after, 918 01:00:41,705 --> 01:00:43,739 the focus became the story 919 01:00:43,741 --> 01:00:48,744 of the fight back on Flight 93. 920 01:00:48,746 --> 01:00:50,912 [man 17] The voice recorder picked up the sound of the passengers 921 01:00:50,914 --> 01:00:52,814 outside the cockpit door. 922 01:00:52,816 --> 01:00:56,018 One yelled, "In the cockpit! If we don't, we'll die!" 923 01:00:56,919 --> 01:01:00,088 We have seen it in the courage of passengers, 924 01:01:00,090 --> 01:01:04,326 who rushed terrorists to save others on the ground. 925 01:01:05,194 --> 01:01:06,962 Passengers like an exceptional man 926 01:01:06,964 --> 01:01:09,097 named Todd Beamer. 927 01:01:09,099 --> 01:01:11,166 And would you please help me welcome his wife, 928 01:01:11,168 --> 01:01:12,801 Lisa Beamer, here tonight? 929 01:01:12,803 --> 01:01:16,405 [applause] 930 01:01:17,306 --> 01:01:22,277 It was a story that everyone probably needed to hear 931 01:01:22,279 --> 01:01:24,046 and wanted to hear. 932 01:01:24,048 --> 01:01:26,314 He said that a group of them 933 01:01:26,316 --> 01:01:28,116 were getting ready to do something 934 01:01:28,118 --> 01:01:30,419 and then he hung up and he never called back. 935 01:01:30,987 --> 01:01:33,055 He went down fighting. 936 01:01:34,157 --> 01:01:36,625 [Melody] But it wasn't just the passengers. 937 01:01:36,627 --> 01:01:39,061 Everybody had their role to play. 938 01:01:40,997 --> 01:01:44,066 None of the crew are mentioned in their narratives. 939 01:01:44,634 --> 01:01:46,868 People would say to me, 940 01:01:46,870 --> 01:01:49,504 "There was a black pilot on that flight?" 941 01:01:50,973 --> 01:01:52,741 That's how little they knew 942 01:01:52,743 --> 01:01:55,977 about who was in the cockpit. 943 01:01:55,979 --> 01:02:00,082 And that's a huge part of the story. 944 01:02:01,150 --> 01:02:03,885 But the heroes had been identified 945 01:02:03,887 --> 01:02:06,288 at that point in everybody's mind... 946 01:02:07,356 --> 01:02:10,125 and nobody wants to sort of rewrite history. 947 01:02:11,694 --> 01:02:14,696 It felt like that was a hijacking 948 01:02:14,698 --> 01:02:19,367 of everybody else's stories and everybody else's grief. 949 01:02:22,872 --> 01:02:24,706 I feel protective of Leroy 950 01:02:24,708 --> 01:02:27,142 and I feel protective of his legacy. 951 01:02:33,950 --> 01:02:36,118 [Rick] Life kind of turned upside down. 952 01:02:36,619 --> 01:02:37,786 Visitors coming through, 953 01:02:37,788 --> 01:02:39,521 wanting to know the story, what happened. 954 01:02:42,792 --> 01:02:44,192 You know, as they're driving by, 955 01:02:44,194 --> 01:02:45,293 if you're on the... on the street 956 01:02:45,295 --> 01:02:47,963 or on your porch, um, you know, talking to you. 957 01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,935 I'm not saying it was a burden, you know, we were gracious. 958 01:02:53,937 --> 01:02:55,704 It was just something that, you know, 959 01:02:55,706 --> 01:02:57,005 you dealt with on a daily basis, 960 01:02:57,007 --> 01:02:58,373 especially myself, you know, 961 01:02:58,375 --> 01:03:01,042 being one of the first responders. 962 01:03:04,881 --> 01:03:07,949 I mean it definitely was a life-changing event for all of us. 963 01:03:09,519 --> 01:03:11,153 [interviewer] And where... where do you work now? 964 01:03:11,155 --> 01:03:13,822 [Rick] I work at Snyder of Berlin, 965 01:03:13,824 --> 01:03:16,024 just about five miles from here. 966 01:03:17,026 --> 01:03:20,996 It's a potato chip factory, snacks, um, popcorn, 967 01:03:20,998 --> 01:03:22,264 cheese curls, things like that. 968 01:03:23,533 --> 01:03:26,535 Very less stressful than jobs I've had before. 969 01:03:29,539 --> 01:03:32,707 Yeah, I enjoy it. It's close to home. 970 01:03:32,709 --> 01:03:35,410 It's probably somewhere I'll just stay until I retire. 971 01:03:45,922 --> 01:03:47,923 [Heather] The passengers on Flight 93 972 01:03:47,925 --> 01:03:50,992 should never have been put into a position 973 01:03:50,994 --> 01:03:53,261 to have to make that choice. 974 01:03:55,832 --> 01:03:59,901 We failed Americans 975 01:03:59,903 --> 01:04:04,973 because of so many layers. 976 01:04:06,609 --> 01:04:08,977 Soviet Union falls and... 977 01:04:08,979 --> 01:04:11,379 and suddenly we believe it's the end of history... 978 01:04:14,517 --> 01:04:16,251 and we just let our guard down. 979 01:04:19,922 --> 01:04:22,657 If you look back at the timeline, 980 01:04:22,659 --> 01:04:26,428 Flight 93 was already down by the time we took off. 981 01:04:32,835 --> 01:04:37,472 There was no way that we could have intercepted it. 982 01:04:38,908 --> 01:04:41,877 If the passengers had not made the choices that they did 983 01:04:41,879 --> 01:04:43,945 and took the actions that they did, 984 01:04:43,947 --> 01:04:47,349 that aircraft would have crashed into the Capitol Building. 985 01:04:52,021 --> 01:04:55,023 I was 26 when 9/11 happened, I was really young. 986 01:04:55,291 --> 01:04:57,058 I wasn't anybody. 987 01:04:58,127 --> 01:05:00,028 In the years that followed, 988 01:05:00,030 --> 01:05:02,063 I was just simply doing... 989 01:05:03,666 --> 01:05:06,001 what everyone else in my fighter squadron was doing, 990 01:05:06,003 --> 01:05:09,838 doing training missions, deploying overseas. 991 01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,774 Going to Iraq in '03, I was a nighttime Scud hunter. 992 01:05:12,776 --> 01:05:15,844 I was flying at night wearing night vision goggles, 993 01:05:15,846 --> 01:05:19,281 uh, hunting mobile Scud ballistic missiles. 994 01:05:20,917 --> 01:05:22,517 I finally had to leave the jet 995 01:05:22,519 --> 01:05:24,519 because I just couldn't balance everything 996 01:05:24,521 --> 01:05:26,021 as a single mom. 997 01:05:27,924 --> 01:05:29,024 [interviewer] You sort of worry about the world 998 01:05:29,026 --> 01:05:30,859 that your daughter's growing up in 999 01:05:30,861 --> 01:05:32,227 compared to the one you grew up in? 1000 01:05:32,862 --> 01:05:33,762 [Heather] I do. 1001 01:05:33,764 --> 01:05:36,698 9/11 was the gestation, 1002 01:05:36,700 --> 01:05:39,501 really the... the very beginning of the forever wars 1003 01:05:39,503 --> 01:05:43,138 that... that America has found itself embroiled in. 1004 01:05:43,140 --> 01:05:45,974 Obviously there's all the blood and treasure 1005 01:05:45,976 --> 01:05:49,177 that has been spent on those wars... 1006 01:05:49,879 --> 01:05:52,047 but there's no doubt in my mind 1007 01:05:52,049 --> 01:05:55,116 that, uh, 9/11 was a turning point, 1008 01:05:55,118 --> 01:05:58,019 not just for America's history but for... 1009 01:05:58,021 --> 01:06:00,288 for the globe in general. 1010 01:06:08,998 --> 01:06:10,999 [Rich] We get down to the lobby level 1011 01:06:11,001 --> 01:06:14,102 and that's when I started to realize that this was something big. 1012 01:06:15,671 --> 01:06:18,807 I remember looking out like this 1013 01:06:18,809 --> 01:06:22,711 and particularly to my left because that was the really main lobby, 1014 01:06:22,713 --> 01:06:24,980 uh, and the windows were all broken, 1015 01:06:24,982 --> 01:06:27,215 it was completely covered in ash 1016 01:06:27,217 --> 01:06:29,718 and there were these security guards, I'll never forget. 1017 01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:32,520 [people clamoring] 1018 01:06:33,689 --> 01:06:35,957 They're walking towards the exit 1019 01:06:35,959 --> 01:06:39,627 and they go, "No, run! Run! Run!" 1020 01:06:39,629 --> 01:06:41,863 So, you know, what I grabbed Lucy's hand 1021 01:06:41,865 --> 01:06:43,932 and, you know, and... and the two of us run. 1022 01:06:43,934 --> 01:06:46,067 One of the security guards goes, uh, 1023 01:06:46,069 --> 01:06:48,303 "Don't look right! Don't look right!" 1024 01:06:48,305 --> 01:06:51,006 So obviously first thing you do is you look right. 1025 01:06:51,008 --> 01:06:52,207 And I look out 1026 01:06:52,209 --> 01:06:55,043 and that was the plaza between the two buildings. 1027 01:06:56,645 --> 01:06:58,079 It looked like a battlefield. 1028 01:07:00,983 --> 01:07:03,985 And all I saw were debris and bodies. 1029 01:07:06,489 --> 01:07:08,790 And the one I remember in particular, 1030 01:07:08,792 --> 01:07:11,092 there was a man about my age, 1031 01:07:11,094 --> 01:07:15,096 uh, with dark hair wearing a white shirt, 1032 01:07:15,164 --> 01:07:17,999 dark pants, black shoes. 1033 01:07:18,001 --> 01:07:20,568 That day I was wearing a white shirt, 1034 01:07:20,570 --> 01:07:22,504 dark pants, black shoes. 1035 01:07:24,740 --> 01:07:27,242 You're almost looking into destiny's mirror. 1036 01:07:32,715 --> 01:07:33,848 [Bill] I looked around the room, 1037 01:07:33,883 --> 01:07:36,384 it was me and three other firemen that were left. 1038 01:07:38,854 --> 01:07:40,722 And his sergeant was there, Sergeant Curtin. 1039 01:07:40,724 --> 01:07:44,025 And he pointed right at me, he pointed his finger, 1040 01:07:44,027 --> 01:07:47,295 I remember him saying, "I think we should get out of this building now." 1041 01:07:47,297 --> 01:07:49,798 And the EMT started to grab me 1042 01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:51,066 because I was covered in blood, 1043 01:07:51,068 --> 01:07:52,700 and I said, "No, no, no, it's her. 1044 01:07:52,702 --> 01:07:55,236 She has... she has a breathing thing going on, you better take care of her." 1045 01:07:55,838 --> 01:07:58,039 So they took Lucy that way 1046 01:07:58,041 --> 01:08:01,176 and the EMT took me by my wrist this way, 1047 01:08:01,178 --> 01:08:03,878 and then we were just about to get into the ambulance 1048 01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:06,014 when someone yelled, "Watch out!" 1049 01:08:06,016 --> 01:08:08,650 And I remember turning around like this and thinking myself, 1050 01:08:08,652 --> 01:08:10,752 I mean, come on, I mean, what do you mean watch out? 1051 01:08:10,754 --> 01:08:12,720 What... what could happen now, right? 1052 01:08:12,722 --> 01:08:14,489 And he looked up and I looked up, 1053 01:08:14,491 --> 01:08:17,792 and I could see the top of one World Trade, the antenna, 1054 01:08:17,794 --> 01:08:19,160 it started to wobble. 1055 01:08:19,162 --> 01:08:24,032 And then I saw sheets of concrete or something 1056 01:08:24,034 --> 01:08:25,700 coming out like, being ejected. 1057 01:08:25,702 --> 01:08:26,968 And next thing I know, I see it 1058 01:08:26,970 --> 01:08:29,504 right over my right shoulder start to implode. 1059 01:08:30,506 --> 01:08:32,440 And I just ran from the falling building. 1060 01:08:38,047 --> 01:08:39,013 Oh, my God, there it goes! 1061 01:08:39,015 --> 01:08:43,184 [rumbling] 1062 01:08:54,096 --> 01:08:56,931 At this point in time when we were exiting the building, 1063 01:08:56,933 --> 01:08:59,567 I did not notice South Tower had come down. 1064 01:08:59,569 --> 01:09:02,537 I didn't know all the destruction around us already. 1065 01:09:08,010 --> 01:09:12,180 I took one step, I got blown about 40 feet. 1066 01:09:19,622 --> 01:09:21,322 But I crawled into a window... 1067 01:09:22,491 --> 01:09:24,425 I just kind of tumbled into the room. 1068 01:09:29,698 --> 01:09:34,435 I went under a desk, I got into like a ball. 1069 01:09:34,437 --> 01:09:37,272 I felt so vulnerable as I was getting buried. 1070 01:09:42,711 --> 01:09:45,013 And I see this cloud, look like a tornado coming towards me, 1071 01:09:45,015 --> 01:09:47,182 this as tall as the buildings 1072 01:09:47,184 --> 01:09:50,451 swirling with what looked like debris in there, 1073 01:09:50,453 --> 01:09:51,719 uh, coming towards me. 1074 01:10:03,999 --> 01:10:07,402 We stood behind the pillar and we just covered our eyes. 1075 01:10:08,971 --> 01:10:11,239 I remember at one point looking up like this. 1076 01:10:14,276 --> 01:10:16,144 I couldn't see my fingertips. 1077 01:10:16,845 --> 01:10:19,347 It was completely pitch black. 1078 01:10:25,688 --> 01:10:28,256 It was cold and it was quiet. 1079 01:10:29,491 --> 01:10:30,925 And I remember thinking to myself, 1080 01:10:30,927 --> 01:10:32,393 "All right, this is what it's like to be dead. 1081 01:10:32,861 --> 01:10:33,895 I can handle this." 1082 01:10:37,833 --> 01:10:40,101 [Bill] The image of them flashed in front of me, 1083 01:10:40,402 --> 01:10:43,671 my older son, my younger son. 1084 01:10:43,673 --> 01:10:46,441 And when the image of my younger son flashed in front of me... 1085 01:10:47,443 --> 01:10:50,178 I said, "Man, you'll never know your dad." 1086 01:10:52,014 --> 01:10:55,250 Now it was for sure I was never going to see him again. 1087 01:11:01,857 --> 01:11:03,925 [Rich] I remember looking up again 1088 01:11:03,927 --> 01:11:07,929 and then it went from black to gray 1089 01:11:07,931 --> 01:11:10,698 to like a beigey-looking thing, 1090 01:11:10,700 --> 01:11:12,667 um, and then it cleared up. 1091 01:11:12,669 --> 01:11:13,801 But then I suddenly realized 1092 01:11:13,803 --> 01:11:16,671 that my throat was completely blocked 1093 01:11:16,673 --> 01:11:19,240 by the... by this cloud, the debris in the cloud, 1094 01:11:19,242 --> 01:11:21,709 and I put my fingers in my mouth, 1095 01:11:21,711 --> 01:11:23,278 and I dug my mouth out. 1096 01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:26,247 And poked... poked my finger down my throat 1097 01:11:26,249 --> 01:11:28,116 to make an airway. 1098 01:11:28,517 --> 01:11:29,684 [man 18] What did you see? 1099 01:11:29,686 --> 01:11:32,020 Everything. I saw chaos. 1100 01:11:32,022 --> 01:11:34,088 It's just chaos out here, really is. 1101 01:11:34,090 --> 01:11:36,024 I saw the Twin Towers fall. 1102 01:11:36,026 --> 01:11:38,092 It's amazing, it's crazy. 1103 01:11:38,094 --> 01:11:39,961 I can't believe it's [bleep] happening. 1104 01:11:40,229 --> 01:11:41,896 I really can't. 1105 01:11:41,898 --> 01:11:43,998 Nightmares. Armageddon right here. 1106 01:11:46,602 --> 01:11:47,835 [Bill] We're still alive 1107 01:11:47,837 --> 01:11:50,605 and I remember trying to take a breath and I couldn't. 1108 01:11:50,607 --> 01:11:52,874 Police officer, he said, "Are you all right?" 1109 01:11:52,876 --> 01:11:55,343 I said, "No, I can't breathe and I can't see." 1110 01:11:57,012 --> 01:12:00,048 And he washed me off with some bottled water they had. 1111 01:12:00,849 --> 01:12:02,583 We walked further up the block 1112 01:12:02,585 --> 01:12:04,952 and there was a chief there who I knew. 1113 01:12:05,754 --> 01:12:09,390 I remember I walked up to him, pretty beaten up, 1114 01:12:09,392 --> 01:12:13,661 I saluted, I said, "Chief, there's been a collapse. 1115 01:12:13,663 --> 01:12:15,430 We've lost some men back there. 1116 01:12:15,964 --> 01:12:19,067 I got some guys, I know where they went down." 1117 01:12:19,069 --> 01:12:22,537 And he said to me, "Bill, we lost a lot of men here today." 1118 01:12:22,539 --> 01:12:24,505 He said, "Get in the ambulance and get out of here." 1119 01:12:32,681 --> 01:12:34,782 John D'Allara went down 1120 01:12:34,784 --> 01:12:37,185 right in that area where we were. 1121 01:12:37,187 --> 01:12:40,588 Every guy I had breakfast with that morning, 1122 01:12:40,590 --> 01:12:43,057 there was 12 of us working that day 1123 01:12:43,059 --> 01:12:45,993 and I was the only one to live, the only one to come home. 1124 01:12:47,029 --> 01:12:49,163 People have asked me in the past... 1125 01:12:50,766 --> 01:12:52,333 "Did people have time to worry? 1126 01:12:52,968 --> 01:12:55,036 People have time to think?" 1127 01:12:56,538 --> 01:12:59,340 It was so quick, it just came down and that was it. 1128 01:13:01,877 --> 01:13:03,077 Wow. 1129 01:13:19,094 --> 01:13:21,229 [Malcolm] The events of 9/11 1130 01:13:21,231 --> 01:13:23,364 seeing it on television all the time, 1131 01:13:23,899 --> 01:13:25,466 it is pretty horrific. 1132 01:13:31,306 --> 01:13:35,977 I would not like to be in any public service at all. 1133 01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:40,047 Obviously we had lots of them 1134 01:13:40,049 --> 01:13:42,283 after the actual event that first year. 1135 01:13:47,089 --> 01:13:49,190 I much rather be on my own. It's my son. 1136 01:13:49,192 --> 01:13:52,293 I'll think about him, you know, quietly myself. 1137 01:13:58,934 --> 01:14:00,802 Every year on the anniversary, 1138 01:14:00,804 --> 01:14:02,970 I go back to the Rhinog mountains. 1139 01:14:04,006 --> 01:14:05,239 I've done for 20 years. 1140 01:14:09,778 --> 01:14:13,014 I find it means more to me being here on my own. 1141 01:14:14,049 --> 01:14:18,119 You look around, this is a beautiful place to be. 1142 01:14:18,554 --> 01:14:19,787 Beautiful place to be. 1143 01:14:24,693 --> 01:14:28,196 The one time of the year I can concentrate on Geoff 1144 01:14:28,198 --> 01:14:31,432 and I can really think deeply about Geoff, 1145 01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:34,368 be upset all I want, to be on my own. 1146 01:14:36,905 --> 01:14:41,075 It's a concentration of grief at that time. 1147 01:14:53,288 --> 01:14:55,957 Remember quite clearly Geoff's first words. 1148 01:14:55,959 --> 01:14:58,926 We lived in the countryside with the fields all round 1149 01:14:58,928 --> 01:15:03,297 and his very first words were "combine harvester". 1150 01:15:05,167 --> 01:15:06,934 He was very, very full of fun 1151 01:15:06,936 --> 01:15:09,504 and used to bridge all the gaps between people. 1152 01:15:11,907 --> 01:15:13,908 I certainly miss 1153 01:15:13,910 --> 01:15:17,144 what he would have been now, what he would have achieved. 1154 01:15:18,814 --> 01:15:19,714 He should have been alive today. 1155 01:15:19,716 --> 01:15:20,915 He would have been... 1156 01:15:20,983 --> 01:15:25,019 He would have been a real essential character today. 1157 01:15:31,460 --> 01:15:34,262 Matthew tends to be so occupied, 1158 01:15:34,264 --> 01:15:38,366 trying to refine the details of how Geoff got killed. 1159 01:15:38,368 --> 01:15:40,301 He almost thinks about nothing else. 1160 01:15:41,703 --> 01:15:43,838 [Matthew] So this is actually only about 50 percent 1161 01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:47,141 of the books that I bought to do with 9/11. 1162 01:15:47,910 --> 01:15:49,744 It's extremely hard to connect the dots 1163 01:15:49,746 --> 01:15:51,946 and actually see that there is a much bigger picture 1164 01:15:51,948 --> 01:15:54,982 than the initial story we were first told. 1165 01:15:54,984 --> 01:15:57,285 But it's an attempt I've got to try. 1166 01:15:57,886 --> 01:15:59,954 And it totally consumes you. 1167 01:15:59,956 --> 01:16:02,123 I was probably just overstepping a mark 1168 01:16:02,125 --> 01:16:07,194 and spending too much time on this stuff, you know. 1169 01:16:14,770 --> 01:16:16,003 [Malcolm] I think it is a bit unhealthy, yes. 1170 01:16:16,005 --> 01:16:18,706 Uh, I mean I'm trying to balance 1171 01:16:18,708 --> 01:16:21,509 this fine line between supporting him, 1172 01:16:21,511 --> 01:16:23,411 on the other hand trying to stand back a bit 1173 01:16:23,413 --> 01:16:24,745 and think, "Matthew, 1174 01:16:24,747 --> 01:16:26,047 you sure Geoff would want this?" 1175 01:16:26,049 --> 01:16:27,882 Or, would he not say look, 1176 01:16:27,884 --> 01:16:30,518 "We can't recover what happened, 1177 01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:32,420 so get on with your life. 1178 01:16:32,422 --> 01:16:34,522 Try and think about that." 1179 01:16:38,894 --> 01:16:42,563 [Matthew] If it had been a lot more transparent in terms of, 1180 01:16:42,565 --> 01:16:43,898 you know, the investigation, 1181 01:16:43,900 --> 01:16:45,566 there weren't all these unanswered questions, 1182 01:16:45,568 --> 01:16:48,970 it would have been way easier just to move on. 1183 01:16:48,972 --> 01:16:52,073 But because I sort of opened this can of worms, 1184 01:16:52,075 --> 01:16:53,941 it's not easy to put back. 1185 01:17:00,515 --> 01:17:04,085 We've never spent an anniversary together. 1186 01:17:06,755 --> 01:17:08,889 I don't know if I'd be any closer to my dad 1187 01:17:08,891 --> 01:17:10,524 with or without Geoff dying. 1188 01:17:12,227 --> 01:17:13,594 You sort of find your own way in life, 1189 01:17:13,596 --> 01:17:14,895 don't you, as a... as a bloke. 1190 01:17:14,897 --> 01:17:18,165 And that's the way I am and it's the way my dad is. 1191 01:17:19,735 --> 01:17:20,968 And that's partly just not having 1192 01:17:20,970 --> 01:17:22,603 those conversations with dad, 1193 01:17:22,605 --> 01:17:25,006 but it's also him not offering it. 1194 01:17:28,944 --> 01:17:30,911 [interviewer] Would you've wanted Malcolm 1195 01:17:30,913 --> 01:17:33,314 to put an arm around you after September 11? 1196 01:17:33,316 --> 01:17:34,348 Um... 1197 01:17:34,716 --> 01:17:35,750 I don't. 1198 01:17:35,752 --> 01:17:37,952 [stammers] Well... But... I mean, you're, 1199 01:17:37,954 --> 01:17:40,121 you know, a strong character is the way you are. 1200 01:17:40,123 --> 01:17:42,757 You... You know, I don't know how you've... 1201 01:17:42,759 --> 01:17:43,824 you've coped over the... 1202 01:17:43,826 --> 01:17:45,626 I said I don't know what it'd be like to... 1203 01:17:45,628 --> 01:17:49,964 to lose a... a child but, you know, um... 1204 01:17:50,932 --> 01:17:55,002 [Malcolm] I've always been sort of self-dependent and, 1205 01:17:55,004 --> 01:17:56,971 you know, inward looking somewhat, 1206 01:17:56,973 --> 01:17:59,907 I suppose that might... might be the result of that. 1207 01:17:59,909 --> 01:18:01,042 I don't know. 1208 01:18:01,743 --> 01:18:02,910 But, uh... 1209 01:18:02,912 --> 01:18:04,679 But we haven't really sat down as, 1210 01:18:04,681 --> 01:18:07,782 certainly not us and not really as a family, 1211 01:18:07,784 --> 01:18:10,651 sat down and talked about the impact of, 1212 01:18:10,653 --> 01:18:12,053 - you know... - [Malcolm] Not in 20 years. 1213 01:18:12,055 --> 01:18:14,021 what happened and... and, you know... 1214 01:18:14,023 --> 01:18:14,922 - [interviewer] Never? - No. 1215 01:18:14,924 --> 01:18:17,391 [Malcolm] Not as a family, no. 1216 01:18:17,393 --> 01:18:20,094 I don't know whether it'd achieve anything, do you? 1217 01:18:20,662 --> 01:18:22,897 Um... 1218 01:18:22,899 --> 01:18:25,232 I think I probably would have avoided ten years of depression. 1219 01:18:25,234 --> 01:18:27,168 [both laugh] 1220 01:18:40,182 --> 01:18:41,282 Ready? 1221 01:18:41,284 --> 01:18:42,917 - You ready? - [man 19] Yeah. 1222 01:18:42,984 --> 01:18:44,051 Was it clear to you 1223 01:18:44,219 --> 01:18:47,888 that the firemen were seeking shelter inside the rigs? 1224 01:18:47,890 --> 01:18:53,027 On 9/12, I covered the story, 1225 01:18:53,029 --> 01:18:56,030 slept in the satellite truck at Ground Zero. 1226 01:18:56,531 --> 01:18:58,065 On 9/13, 1227 01:18:58,067 --> 01:18:59,934 covered the news all day, 1228 01:18:59,936 --> 01:19:01,836 slept in the satellite truck again. 1229 01:19:01,838 --> 01:19:05,039 Covered the news on 9/14, 1230 01:19:05,041 --> 01:19:09,076 did the six o'clock news and then went home. 1231 01:19:15,550 --> 01:19:18,519 At the time I thought 9/11 was just the beginning. 1232 01:19:21,890 --> 01:19:25,860 That we were going to have suicide bombers in Broadway shows, 1233 01:19:25,862 --> 01:19:28,262 suicide bombers on the subways. 1234 01:19:28,264 --> 01:19:30,030 I thought that this was sort of the... 1235 01:19:30,032 --> 01:19:33,134 the opening salvo 1236 01:19:33,168 --> 01:19:35,236 of an ongoing series 1237 01:19:35,238 --> 01:19:37,404 of terrorism attacks on New York. 1238 01:19:40,008 --> 01:19:41,442 Started to rule my world. 1239 01:19:42,878 --> 01:19:47,982 When is the next event going to happen? 1240 01:19:52,287 --> 01:19:56,524 We are, all of us, survivors of 9/11. 1241 01:19:56,526 --> 01:20:00,427 If you were alive on 9/12, you're a survivor of 9/11. 1242 01:20:08,203 --> 01:20:10,070 I'm out of the car 1243 01:20:10,072 --> 01:20:14,074 and my wife is there, and we hugged and hugged. 1244 01:20:19,514 --> 01:20:22,349 So I said to my wife, I said, "Where's Jay?" 1245 01:20:23,518 --> 01:20:25,486 She said, "Oh, he's up in his room." 1246 01:20:26,855 --> 01:20:30,090 Went upstairs, poked my head into his room, 1247 01:20:31,026 --> 01:20:32,426 I said, "Jay!" 1248 01:20:33,261 --> 01:20:35,129 He looks up at me and he says, "Hi, Dad." 1249 01:20:35,131 --> 01:20:38,399 And my son was not even four. 1250 01:20:39,901 --> 01:20:43,204 He had built towers with his wooden blocks 1251 01:20:43,605 --> 01:20:45,206 and had a model plane 1252 01:20:45,208 --> 01:20:49,210 that he was smashing into the... into the blocks. 1253 01:20:49,978 --> 01:20:51,612 [scoffs] 1254 01:20:51,614 --> 01:20:53,080 [interviewer] When you saw that, 1255 01:20:53,082 --> 01:20:54,949 was there any part of you that regretted 1256 01:20:54,951 --> 01:20:57,218 not having come home sooner? 1257 01:20:59,688 --> 01:21:01,922 No, and, you know what, it's interesting, Arthur, 1258 01:21:01,924 --> 01:21:03,457 because nobody's ever asked me that question. 1259 01:21:06,828 --> 01:21:08,362 Should I've come home sooner? 1260 01:21:11,399 --> 01:21:12,532 Maybe so. 1261 01:21:24,980 --> 01:21:28,482 [Nancy] They brought me down to Ground Zero. 1262 01:21:32,988 --> 01:21:36,123 That day they found someone and you watch them... 1263 01:21:36,925 --> 01:21:40,327 flag, stand at attention. 1264 01:21:41,062 --> 01:21:45,065 The respect, everything stopped dead... 1265 01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:47,201 and they bring the person up. 1266 01:21:47,203 --> 01:21:51,939 It was just beyond anyone's comprehension 1267 01:21:51,941 --> 01:21:53,540 of what was going on. 1268 01:22:03,885 --> 01:22:08,289 These firefighters are so damaged. 1269 01:22:11,793 --> 01:22:14,328 Certain things, once you've seen them... 1270 01:22:15,664 --> 01:22:18,365 you could just never not see. 1271 01:22:23,505 --> 01:22:25,406 My heart is broken for all of them. 1272 01:22:31,146 --> 01:22:34,014 [Bill] The group is made up of retired firemen. 1273 01:22:34,983 --> 01:22:37,518 Just like the firehouse kitchen would be. 1274 01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:38,752 It's the same type of joking around 1275 01:22:38,754 --> 01:22:40,387 that goes on and the same on the course. 1276 01:22:48,263 --> 01:22:51,665 [Nancy] Danny's funeral was on Monday 1277 01:22:51,667 --> 01:22:55,102 and people waited for hours to see me. 1278 01:22:55,104 --> 01:22:58,772 People just kept coming and coming, 1279 01:22:58,774 --> 01:23:00,708 thousands and thousands of people. 1280 01:23:00,710 --> 01:23:02,609 It was the most incredible thing. 1281 01:23:02,611 --> 01:23:05,746 Firefighters in their turnout gear, 1282 01:23:05,748 --> 01:23:09,149 covered in dust, had come from Ground Zero. 1283 01:23:09,384 --> 01:23:11,452 Just... they just kept coming. 1284 01:23:13,755 --> 01:23:16,190 [interviewer] Do you think in a way, Bill, going to all those funerals, 1285 01:23:16,192 --> 01:23:19,059 it must have been really traumatizing experience? 1286 01:23:21,196 --> 01:23:23,097 Yeah, you kind of lose emotion. 1287 01:23:23,531 --> 01:23:25,299 It was just one after another 1288 01:23:25,301 --> 01:23:28,969 one week after another and lasted 11 weeks. 1289 01:23:30,905 --> 01:23:33,273 There's just so many guys. 1290 01:23:33,275 --> 01:23:35,609 I realized it wasn't healthy for me. 1291 01:23:35,611 --> 01:23:40,147 So I just was going to one... one a day. 1292 01:23:46,488 --> 01:23:49,990 I never thought I'd live more than two years after 9/11, 1293 01:23:49,992 --> 01:23:52,159 two, three years at the most 1294 01:23:52,161 --> 01:23:54,928 due to my breathing, so many difficulties. 1295 01:23:54,930 --> 01:23:56,630 At least it was positive. 1296 01:23:56,632 --> 01:23:59,233 I was going to see my boys for some time. 1297 01:23:59,235 --> 01:24:03,971 So every day it goes by now, it's... it's all good, yeah. 1298 01:24:04,639 --> 01:24:06,974 And my two boys are doing great. 1299 01:24:06,976 --> 01:24:09,443 I... I couldn't ask more from them, uh... 1300 01:24:11,980 --> 01:24:16,116 I'm glad I got to experience these last 20 years. 1301 01:24:17,018 --> 01:24:22,089 And if I wake up tomorrow, it'll be... it'll be good again. 1302 01:24:34,936 --> 01:24:36,236 - [Bill] Yeah! - [man 20] Oh, yes! 1303 01:24:36,238 --> 01:24:40,207 There's a difference between moving forward and moving on. 1304 01:24:41,076 --> 01:24:42,443 I've moved forward. 1305 01:24:43,111 --> 01:24:44,511 I haven't moved on. 1306 01:24:44,513 --> 01:24:46,980 Daddy will catch you. Daddy will catch you. 1307 01:24:52,487 --> 01:24:56,323 There's a part of me that will always be that day. 1308 01:24:59,861 --> 01:25:02,329 In a blink of an eye, I'm back there. 1309 01:25:13,007 --> 01:25:14,341 [Rich] I was numb. 1310 01:25:17,545 --> 01:25:21,281 My survival mechanism was... I just turned numb. 1311 01:25:23,118 --> 01:25:26,286 I used to feel like a visitor from another planet. 1312 01:25:28,523 --> 01:25:30,924 I would come home and it'd be like 1313 01:25:30,926 --> 01:25:33,527 returning back to a life that no longer existed for me. 1314 01:25:35,830 --> 01:25:38,332 [grunting] 1315 01:25:39,067 --> 01:25:41,502 If you weren't a first responder, 1316 01:25:41,504 --> 01:25:43,937 you were just a civilian like I was. 1317 01:25:45,073 --> 01:25:46,840 And you have the same psychological needs. 1318 01:25:46,842 --> 01:25:48,742 You have the same physical needs. 1319 01:25:48,744 --> 01:25:52,746 You have to deal with medical and government systems 1320 01:25:52,748 --> 01:25:55,816 that you normally would never deal with, right? 1321 01:25:55,818 --> 01:25:57,484 You don't even know what you're supposed to do. 1322 01:26:02,657 --> 01:26:04,525 You're part of a great unwashed. 1323 01:26:07,662 --> 01:26:09,897 If you were a civilian, an office worker 1324 01:26:09,899 --> 01:26:12,466 or a tradesman or worked in a store... 1325 01:26:14,002 --> 01:26:15,936 it's very real for you. 1326 01:26:16,037 --> 01:26:18,539 But we were just forgotten. 1327 01:26:21,809 --> 01:26:25,012 We became a footnote in the story. 1328 01:26:32,954 --> 01:26:35,022 [Vanessa] I wanted to stay there more than ever. 1329 01:26:41,963 --> 01:26:44,798 But I then just got to a point 1330 01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:47,534 that I actually couldn't handle the way I was feeling 1331 01:26:47,902 --> 01:26:49,536 and the fear that I had. 1332 01:26:53,041 --> 01:26:56,410 And the sort of panics, that noises and sounds and smells. 1333 01:27:00,081 --> 01:27:02,082 I called a friend because I... 1334 01:27:02,084 --> 01:27:03,317 I think I said to her, "I'm scared. 1335 01:27:03,319 --> 01:27:05,419 What I'm going to do if... 1336 01:27:06,854 --> 01:27:08,288 if I don't leave?" 1337 01:27:09,157 --> 01:27:12,092 Because I couldn't... I couldn't keep, um... 1338 01:27:12,894 --> 01:27:15,495 It was that thing of I can't live with, 1339 01:27:15,497 --> 01:27:19,766 this fear and this emotion and this feeling that I have right now. 1340 01:27:19,768 --> 01:27:23,870 Um, so, we literally booked a flight, she came... She flew home with me. 1341 01:27:23,872 --> 01:27:26,039 Um, which was amazing. 1342 01:27:27,475 --> 01:27:28,775 I was scared 1343 01:27:28,777 --> 01:27:31,311 because I couldn't cope with feeling the way I was feeling. 1344 01:27:35,783 --> 01:27:37,451 I loved that city. Loved it. 1345 01:27:38,886 --> 01:27:40,020 Such amazing friends there. 1346 01:27:40,022 --> 01:27:42,322 I had... Yeah, I had a great life there. 1347 01:27:46,527 --> 01:27:49,930 Even with the studio space in the towers, 1348 01:27:49,932 --> 01:27:51,898 I'm still so thankful 1349 01:27:51,900 --> 01:27:55,202 of having an opportunity to be in a space like that. 1350 01:28:07,515 --> 01:28:09,650 [Bill] My dad was a printer. 1351 01:28:09,652 --> 01:28:12,019 He worked in downtown Manhattan. 1352 01:28:14,622 --> 01:28:17,190 And when I got to be about 13 years old, 1353 01:28:17,192 --> 01:28:20,994 my dad and mom would let me travel to the city by myself. 1354 01:28:21,496 --> 01:28:22,696 I always said to myself, 1355 01:28:22,698 --> 01:28:26,933 "People from all over the world travel many miles, 1356 01:28:26,935 --> 01:28:30,504 they spend a lot of money to vacation here in New York, 1357 01:28:30,506 --> 01:28:32,339 and I'm a boat ride away." 1358 01:28:34,642 --> 01:28:36,977 Every time I traveled on the ferry, 1359 01:28:36,979 --> 01:28:39,079 I took a picture of those towers. 1360 01:28:40,682 --> 01:28:43,116 I cherish them. 1361 01:28:43,118 --> 01:28:47,220 It brings back the memories of when they still dominated the skyline. 1362 01:29:02,270 --> 01:29:07,007 [melancholy music playing] 110989

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