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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,266 --> 00:00:02,099 老屋子都有一个天井 2 00:00:02,366 --> 00:00:05,333 所以我们当时候决定一定要做天井 3 00:00:05,333 --> 00:00:06,299 没有一个天井 4 00:00:06,300 --> 00:00:08,066 就没有那种老屋子的感觉 5 00:00:08,166 --> 00:00:09,499 舞台那个 6 00:00:09,500 --> 00:00:10,700 就是一排 7 00:00:10,766 --> 00:00:12,666 就是卖那些 8 00:00:12,666 --> 00:00:14,066 猪肉 9 00:00:14,066 --> 00:00:16,133 有一些卖烧腊之类的 10 00:00:16,133 --> 00:00:17,066 有烧鸭 11 00:00:17,066 --> 00:00:18,133 什么东西 12 00:00:18,133 --> 00:00:19,399 全部都在那边 13 00:00:19,766 --> 00:00:21,166 最重要我们敢做 14 00:00:21,166 --> 00:00:21,766 我一进来说 15 00:00:21,766 --> 00:00:24,733 怎么这些石头我好像在哪见过 16 00:00:24,733 --> 00:00:26,766 就是在红屋的那个地方见过 17 00:00:26,766 --> 00:00:30,699 这边靠近是以前是一个pasar 18 00:00:30,700 --> 00:00:32,200 有人卖 杀鸡杀鸭 19 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,000 卖肉 烧肉 20 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,866 还有烧腊之类的 21 00:00:36,100 --> 00:00:38,166 还有卖菜 22 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:39,700 在马六甲的庙街 23 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:41,066 门牌106号 24 00:00:41,066 --> 00:00:43,399 静静地依偎在鸡场街的入口 25 00:00:44,166 --> 00:00:46,533 这座建筑质朴而简约 26 00:00:46,666 --> 00:00:48,966 诉说着百余载的沧桑往事 27 00:00:49,733 --> 00:00:52,933 几经易主 它如命运之手的弹指间 28 00:00:53,066 --> 00:00:54,999 摇曳出一段古老的旋律 29 00:00:55,100 --> 00:00:56,933 变幻成了一座博物馆 30 00:00:57,066 --> 00:00:59,766 展示着时间最悠远的古老行业 31 00:00:59,900 --> 00:01:01,600 手工刀的辉煌历史 32 00:01:02,333 --> 00:01:04,899 这座建筑仿佛是时光的画家 33 00:01:04,933 --> 00:01:07,899 用质朴的调色板勾勒出岁月的印记 34 00:01:08,700 --> 00:01:11,100 透过门牌106号的门扉 35 00:01:11,166 --> 00:01:13,399 一种别样的宁静弥漫开来 36 00:01:13,500 --> 00:01:15,466 将你引入百年前的时空 37 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,200 这不是仅仅一个博物馆 38 00:01:18,333 --> 00:01:19,999 更是一段关于道义 39 00:01:20,133 --> 00:01:22,299 历史和匠心的深情故事 40 00:01:22,733 --> 00:01:23,733 为什么是这个样子 41 00:01:23,733 --> 00:01:25,866 跟两者之间怎么契合起来 42 00:01:26,333 --> 00:01:28,466 因为其实刀对我来说就是 43 00:01:28,466 --> 00:01:30,899 那个就是在家里再平常不过的 44 00:01:31,300 --> 00:01:33,333 但原来它在平凡之中 45 00:01:33,466 --> 00:01:35,366 它有它的这个老故事 46 00:01:35,366 --> 00:01:36,166 买下来 47 00:01:36,166 --> 00:01:39,866 距离今天应该有6、7年了 48 00:01:39,866 --> 00:01:41,466 在我们有这个idea的时候 49 00:01:41,466 --> 00:01:43,699 应该都5年前我们就有这个idea 50 00:01:43,700 --> 00:01:45,500 但是你要慢慢地去想 51 00:01:45,500 --> 00:01:48,166 我们真正做这个building两间的时候 52 00:01:48,166 --> 00:01:49,299 做了3年多 53 00:01:49,300 --> 00:01:50,300 成立差不多2年 54 00:01:50,300 --> 00:01:52,133 我们是在MCO的时候 55 00:01:52,133 --> 00:01:53,966 中间的时候才开张 56 00:01:53,966 --> 00:01:57,133 最记得我们开张13天的时候就关了 57 00:01:57,466 --> 00:01:58,566 因为那个是MCO 58 00:01:58,566 --> 00:01:59,699 应该是2.0 59 00:01:59,700 --> 00:02:00,800 我说同样的这个建筑物 60 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:01,733 我说你进来的时候 61 00:02:01,733 --> 00:02:04,099 你会以为它失去了 62 00:02:04,100 --> 00:02:05,800 那个老建筑的这个味道 63 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:06,866 但其实不是的 64 00:02:06,866 --> 00:02:08,666 我说你再多留意一下 65 00:02:08,666 --> 00:02:10,466 不管是墙壁也好 66 00:02:10,466 --> 00:02:11,966 不管是楼梯都好 67 00:02:11,966 --> 00:02:12,733 你会发现 68 00:02:12,733 --> 00:02:14,899 它那个老建筑物的味道依然还在 69 00:02:15,533 --> 00:02:16,666 所以这样我就觉得 70 00:02:16,666 --> 00:02:19,566 这个故事就作为刀的故事 71 00:02:19,566 --> 00:02:20,766 跟老建筑的故事 72 00:02:20,766 --> 00:02:22,866 就这样 然后他们契合了 73 00:02:22,866 --> 00:02:24,099 我们又卖刀 74 00:02:24,466 --> 00:02:27,666 所以我们就 很多东西我们都用 75 00:02:27,700 --> 00:02:29,166 那些木材 76 00:02:29,533 --> 00:02:31,099 铁 77 00:02:31,100 --> 00:02:32,333 石头这些来 78 00:02:32,466 --> 00:02:34,533 整个建筑物都是用这些东西来做 79（？） 00:02:34,766 --> 00:02:37,899 因为做我们的刀比较有疲惫 80 00:02:37,900 --> 00:02:38,666 哈哈哈 81 00:02:38,666 --> 00:02:39,533 是 没错 82 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,566 为什么我们讲回马来西亚三宝 83 00:02:45,566 --> 00:02:47,566 因为我们马来西亚有三个宝贝 84 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:49,900 树胶、油棕、榴莲 85 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:51,466 在我这整个馆里面 86 00:02:51,466 --> 00:02:54,366 我楼上也有树胶、油棕和榴莲 87 00:02:54,866 --> 00:02:59,199 这样我把它比喻成马来西亚大地 88 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,133 带给马来西亚的三个宝贝 89 00:03:01,333 --> 00:03:03,733 就是我用了一个树胶刀 90 00:03:03,866 --> 00:03:05,533 一个油棕刀 91 00:03:05,533 --> 00:03:08,866 和一个榴莲刀来做这整个concept 92 00:03:09,266 --> 00:03:12,166 而我又用了马来西亚另外一个宝 93（？） 00:03:12,466 --> 00:03:15,099 就是see filter来呈现 94 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,400 所以我把它取名为马来西亚三宝 95 00:03:18,500 --> 00:03:19,166 我一进来说 96 00:03:19,166 --> 00:03:22,166 怎么这些石头我好像在哪见过 97 00:03:22,166 --> 00:03:24,766 就是在红屋的那个地方见过 98 00:03:24,766 --> 00:03:25,766 这个再多想一下 99 00:03:25,766 --> 00:03:28,699 就是其他的老建筑物进到去的时候 100 00:03:28,700 --> 00:03:32,133 你不会看见有这样子的这个结构 101 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,333 所以这个就是 102 00:03:34,333 --> 00:03:36,266 这个建筑物特别的地方 103 00:03:36,300 --> 00:03:39,066 张集强在发表的一篇文章中提到 104 00:03:39,166 --> 00:03:41,666 马六甲王朝在1511年结束 105 00:03:41,666 --> 00:03:42,666 之后不久 106 00:03:42,733 --> 00:03:45,799 葡萄牙人在马六甲河口开始筑城 107 00:03:45,900 --> 00:03:47,900 并以欧洲城镇的管理概念 108 00:03:47,900 --> 00:03:49,566 来开始实施管制 109 00:03:50,366 --> 00:03:52,899 葡萄牙人利用奴隶及当地人 110 00:03:52,933 --> 00:03:54,199 在马六甲外礁石岛（Pulau Upeh） 111 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,600 取得铁锈石（Laterite Rock） 112 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,500 作为城墙的主要材料 113 00:04:00,133 --> 00:04:01,499 大面积的铁锈石 114 00:04:01,500 --> 00:04:04,266 通常呈现出浓烈的自然红褐色 115 00:04:04,966 --> 00:04:08,366 这种颜色是由岩石中富含的铁氧化物 116 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,733 尤其是赤铁矿（Hematite） 117 00:04:10,766 --> 00:04:13,099 和其他铁韵石矿物引起的 118 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,500 这些铁氧化物的存在 119 00:04:15,500 --> 00:04:17,500 赋予了岩石深沉的红色 120 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,266 透着一种自然的温暖和特有的质感 121 00:04:21,066 --> 00:04:21,999 这种红褐色 122 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,466 大面积分布在铁锈石的表面 123 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,600 使其在自然光下呈现出独特的光泽 124 00:04:28,500 --> 00:04:31,400 好在是陈老板买下来 做到这样 125 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:32,533 我讲 126 00:04:32,966 --> 00:04:36,466 以前就是很破旧的 127 00:04:37,100 --> 00:04:40,366 走那个楼梯的板都会发出声响 128 00:04:40,933 --> 00:04:43,333 那时候 不过还可以 129 00:04:43,333 --> 00:04:44,199 可以住 130 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:45,133 这个屋子 131 00:04:45,133 --> 00:04:47,366 已经是很破烂了 132 00:04:47,366 --> 00:04:48,299 就不是讲破烂 133 00:04:48,300 --> 00:04:50,700 很陈旧 走到那楼梯 134 00:04:50,700 --> 00:04:53,600 都有声音跑出来的 135 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:54,900 那个楼板 136（？） 00:04:54,900 --> 00:04:57,166 最坚硕老师的是我们看过这样多旧建筑物 137 00:04:57,166 --> 00:04:59,066 改造的最多 138 00:04:59,066 --> 00:05:00,366 但是 139 00:05:00,366 --> 00:05:01,699 我听你说 我就想说 140 00:05:01,700 --> 00:05:02,900 这个其实就是在 141 00:05:02,900 --> 00:05:06,200 它旧建筑物本身原有结构的那个曲线 142 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:07,666 在那个局限底下 143 00:05:07,666 --> 00:05:09,199 怎么样和你现有的 144 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,600 因为你的这整个生意的需求 145 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:13,600 然后做一个结合 146 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:14,900 他花的钱也挺不少 147 00:05:15,066 --> 00:05:16,699 尤其在这装修的一个过程 148 00:05:16,700 --> 00:05:18,666 你要既保留它原有的这个面貌 149 00:05:18,666 --> 00:05:19,799 不破坏 但是 150 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:20,666 因此就必须花更多的钱 151 00:05:21,066 --> 00:05:22,766 我觉得这个就是一个 152 00:05:22,766 --> 00:05:24,099 很好的一个精神 153 00:05:24,100 --> 00:05:25,733 所以当时也是很纠结 154 00:05:25,733 --> 00:05:26,499 但是没有办法 155 00:05:26,500 --> 00:05:29,300 也是想到要做到最好 最精致 156 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:31,066 讲老故事 157 00:05:31,066 --> 00:05:32,066 老街道或者 158 00:05:32,066 --> 00:05:32,733 老建筑 159 00:05:32,733 --> 00:05:34,133 这个就是最好的一个结合 160 00:05:34,133 --> 00:05:36,533 而且我们是做刀的 161 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:37,533 我们做刀 162 00:05:37,533 --> 00:05:39,333 我们要有那些 163 00:05:39,566 --> 00:05:40,799 我们又是手工刀 164 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,266 你今天看的这个建筑物真的很漂亮 165 00:05:43,266 --> 00:05:45,999 但是当我们还没做的时候 166 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,200 这两间店 167 00:05:47,666 --> 00:05:48,333 尤其是这间 168 00:05:48,333 --> 00:05:49,399 它是破破烂烂的 169 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,966 两间屋子都会水灾 170 00:05:51,966 --> 00:05:55,599 一间屋子的水灾应该有两尺左右 171 00:05:55,766 --> 00:05:57,399 第一个我们填上了 172 00:05:57,533 --> 00:05:58,766 当你们今天看的时候 173 00:05:58,766 --> 00:06:00,366 我们的这些东西是新的 174 00:06:00,366 --> 00:06:02,699 事实上我们这些木是旧的 175 00:06:02,700 --> 00:06:03,733 我们扯了 176 00:06:03,733 --> 00:06:06,299 我们又重新的放回去 177 00:06:06,766 --> 00:06:09,766 放回去的话我们就面对了一个楼梯 178 00:06:09,766 --> 00:06:12,499 我们楼梯用的木头是用回旧的 179 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,300 但是当你之前的屋子矮 180 00:06:15,300 --> 00:06:16,200 当你矮的时候 181 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,533 你楼梯的尺寸不够 182 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:20,566 它的尺寸不够 183 00:06:20,766 --> 00:06:22,599 所以我们在想要怎么接 184 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,266 最后我们加了红毛灰 185 00:06:25,500 --> 00:06:26,700 用原装的楼梯 186 00:06:26,700 --> 00:06:29,566 所以我们另外一间就会有很多人投诉 187 00:06:29,566 --> 00:06:31,599 老板你的楼梯很小 188 00:06:31,933 --> 00:06:32,799 但是因为那个 189 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,133 是我们采用旧的楼梯 190 00:06:35,333 --> 00:06:36,666 重新做回 191 00:06:37,333 --> 00:06:38,499 那边有一个打铁铺 192 00:06:38,500 --> 00:06:39,933 我们考虑到那个重量 193 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,200 但是因为老屋它的重量有限 194 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:44,800 所以那时候我们也是在想 195 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,100 要怎么去解决这个问题 196 00:06:46,100 --> 00:06:47,866 我们又怕放的太重 197 00:06:48,066 --> 00:06:50,366 而参观的人到时多了的话 198 00:06:50,366 --> 00:06:52,366 要怎么去承受它的压力 199 00:06:52,766 --> 00:06:56,399 所以最后设计师就一直在想说 200 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,700 我们利用墙壁的力 201 00:06:58,700 --> 00:07:01,733 所以我们有些东西就用墙壁的力吊住 202 00:07:01,733 --> 00:07:02,733 开的时候 203 00:07:02,966 --> 00:07:04,899 那个万一没有电的话 204 00:07:05,066 --> 00:07:06,899 空气可以流通 205 00:07:07,566 --> 00:07:08,766 所以我们这个东西 206 00:07:08,766 --> 00:07:10,466 要决定这个东西的时候 207 00:07:10,466 --> 00:07:11,566 又是另外一个问题了 208 00:07:11,566 --> 00:07:12,866 因为那个流水 209 00:07:13,166 --> 00:07:15,499 水来的时候要怎么去排 210 00:07:15,533 --> 00:07:18,599 所以我们就用了这个水槽 211 00:07:18,866 --> 00:07:19,999 水槽 212 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:21,766 就直接下这个 213 00:07:21,933 --> 00:07:23,099 里面的地下道 214 00:07:23,100 --> 00:07:25,333 这个东西克服真的不简单 215 00:07:25,333 --> 00:07:27,566 我们的优势 216 00:07:27,666 --> 00:07:29,366 我认为最大的优势是说 217 00:07:29,366 --> 00:07:30,899 我们在文化街 218 00:07:30,900 --> 00:07:32,166 就是一个很自然的 219 00:07:32,166 --> 00:07:35,533 一个世界文化遗产的一条街道 220 00:07:35,566 --> 00:07:38,766 而且全世界的游客 221 00:07:38,766 --> 00:07:40,666 包括马来西亚的游客 222 00:07:40,666 --> 00:07:43,399 他来一定要来这条街道 223 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:44,466 所以我认为 224 00:07:44,466 --> 00:07:45,799 而且我们 225 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,800 我们刀也是属于一个老行业 226 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:52,400 所以我认为最好的优势就是 227 00:07:52,466 --> 00:07:54,333 我们在一个对的地方 228 00:07:54,933 --> 00:07:55,966 推门而入 229 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,366 空气中似乎还留存着铁器敲击的回响 230 00:08:00,166 --> 00:08:00,866 每一把刀 231 00:08:00,866 --> 00:08:03,866 都承载着刀匠精湛技艺与心血结晶 232 00:08:03,966 --> 00:08:07,133 镌刻着马六甲手工艺馈赠的历史印记 233 00:08:07,900 --> 00:08:08,900 步入其中 234 00:08:08,900 --> 00:08:09,733 你会发现 235 00:08:09,733 --> 00:08:11,666 手工刀这个古老的艺术 236 00:08:11,733 --> 00:08:13,566 在这里得以焕发新生 237 00:08:14,333 --> 00:08:17,133 每一把刀都是匠人智慧的结晶 238 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:18,366 每一段历史 239 00:08:18,466 --> 00:08:20,899 都在刀锋间留下深深的印记 240 00:08:21,733 --> 00:08:24,866 庙街的这一隅成了手工刀的归宿 241 00:08:24,900 --> 00:08:26,700 也是历史的延续之地 242 00:08:27,466 --> 00:08:29,699 这间我跟你讲 243 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,500 一个福地来的 244 00:08:31,666 --> 00:08:33,799 自从我离开过后 245（？） 00:08:34,166 --> 00:08:37,866 就到了这个新马银社 246 00:08:37,866 --> 00:08:40,499 做那个瓷砖的发迹 247 00:08:40,566 --> 00:08:42,999 也是在这边 还有一个发迹的 248（？） 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,666 最后他又在转卖给谢汤鸡 249 00:08:46,766 --> 00:08:48,933 现在他在客家公会 250 00:08:49,533 --> 00:08:51,666 都有一栋大楼 251 00:08:51,666 --> 00:08:53,166 那个四层的 252 00:08:53,166 --> 00:08:53,999 三层的 253 00:08:54,733 --> 00:08:55,266 所以说 254 00:08:55,266 --> 00:08:58,333 我讲陈老板好福气 255 00:08:58,333 --> 00:09:01,599 我一开始的时候是说要一间来做 256 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,533 就没有压力 257 00:09:03,666 --> 00:09:05,133 但是当它要两间的时候 258 00:09:05,133 --> 00:09:06,299 我压力就来了 259 00:09:06,300 --> 00:09:08,133 两间你就要做的 260 00:09:08,133 --> 00:09:09,333 要做得很好 261 00:09:09,533 --> 00:09:11,099 最重要我们敢做 262 00:09:11,166 --> 00:09:12,266 走一步看一步了 263 00:09:12,266 --> 00:09:14,099 假如是想的太清楚 264 00:09:14,133 --> 00:09:15,366 我们就不敢做了 265 00:09:15,366 --> 00:09:17,199 哈哈哈 266 00:09:17,300 --> 00:09:20,333 如今这座建筑既是过去的缩影 267 00:09:20,333 --> 00:09:21,799 也是现代的见证 268 00:09:22,666 --> 00:09:24,199 门牌106号 269 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,133 不仅是庙街和鸡场街的一部分 270 00:09:27,133 --> 00:09:29,266 更是马六甲丰富历史的一页 271 00:09:30,100 --> 00:09:31,333 漫步在这里 272 00:09:31,366 --> 00:09:32,499 仿佛能够听见 273 00:09:32,500 --> 00:09:34,866 手工刀在岁月中轻声低吟 274 00:09:34,866 --> 00:09:37,466 为这座古老城市增色不少 18125

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