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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:17,034 --> 00:00:19,286 I think it's time now to sweeten the air 2 00:00:19,380 --> 00:00:21,007 with a little entertainment. 3 00:00:21,096 --> 00:00:25,309 But not on the principle of escapism, but on the principle of affirmation. 4 00:00:25,404 --> 00:00:30,368 And there's scarcely a more affirmative artist in 5 00:00:30,468 --> 00:00:34,013 the musical world than my old friend whom I'm going to bring out now, 6 00:00:34,910 --> 00:00:39,623 {\an8}on the theory that music hath charms to soothe the savage breast. 7 00:00:41,583 --> 00:00:43,168 {\an8}And because he is, 8 00:00:43,836 --> 00:00:46,964 past all question, one of the greatest influences 9 00:00:48,532 --> 00:00:50,492 in American music 10 00:00:50,592 --> 00:00:53,512 and the greatest influence in jazz of all time. 11 00:00:54,263 --> 00:00:57,850 It's my great pleasure to bring you my great friend, 12 00:00:58,684 --> 00:00:59,685 Louis Armstrong. 13 00:01:43,537 --> 00:01:45,706 {\an8}The whole world embraced Louis Armstrong. 14 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,846 {\an8}He was bringing a gift, the gift of a presentness 15 00:01:49,935 --> 00:01:52,438 and a naturalness and a depth of insight. 16 00:01:52,525 --> 00:01:55,403 And the ability to act on those insights in the moment. 17 00:01:55,496 --> 00:01:57,707 And it was in a difficult form like music. 18 00:01:57,807 --> 00:02:02,854 And that type of electric virtuosity has not been seen before or since. 19 00:02:12,775 --> 00:02:13,818 Without him, 20 00:02:13,912 --> 00:02:16,498 {\an8}many things that happen today in jazz would not be possible. 21 00:02:16,594 --> 00:02:20,223 {\an8}And I think that Mr Armstrong has not gotten a good deal 22 00:02:20,323 --> 00:02:21,741 of the credit that's due to him. 23 00:02:32,629 --> 00:02:36,257 {\an8}He has been the number one man in his department. 24 00:02:36,357 --> 00:02:39,985 {\an8}He is really the ambassador of the whole thing, 25 00:02:40,085 --> 00:02:42,003 so there will never be another one like this. 26 00:03:41,989 --> 00:03:44,658 {\an8}Well, he was a very, very deep person. 27 00:03:44,752 --> 00:03:48,380 {\an8}He was very much aware of world activities, 28 00:03:48,470 --> 00:03:49,847 what was happening everywhere. 29 00:03:49,935 --> 00:03:52,646 We would have our discussions at home. 30 00:03:52,731 --> 00:03:55,359 He had been asked by many reporters in interviews 31 00:03:55,444 --> 00:03:58,071 what did he think about a certain particular thing. 32 00:03:58,155 --> 00:04:01,033 And Louis would say, "Well, man, you know, I'm just a musician." 33 00:04:01,116 --> 00:04:02,910 He never would come out publicly 34 00:04:03,002 --> 00:04:08,716 because his theory was that "what I say carries a lot of weight". 35 00:04:08,816 --> 00:04:12,445 And he says, "And I just won't do it." But at home, he had his opinions. 36 00:04:30,370 --> 00:04:34,208 American people, they the most grandest people on Earth. 37 00:04:34,302 --> 00:04:37,305 And I'm from America, well, quite naturally, 38 00:04:37,402 --> 00:04:39,363 I don't have no fucking flag 39 00:04:39,463 --> 00:04:41,257 other than a Black flag. 40 00:04:55,671 --> 00:04:56,922 Thank you, folks. 41 00:05:02,244 --> 00:05:03,829 Thank you. 42 00:05:03,929 --> 00:05:07,349 {\an8}♪ Now I'll be glad when you're dead You rascal you 43 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,562 {\an8}♪ I'll be glad when you're dead You rascal you 44 00:05:12,213 --> 00:05:14,590 ♪ Boy, when you're laying six feet deep 45 00:05:14,690 --> 00:05:16,733 ♪ No more fried chicken will you eat 46 00:05:17,718 --> 00:05:18,719 ♪ Oh, you dog 47 00:05:18,819 --> 00:05:20,529 ♪ I know that'll break your heart ♪ 48 00:05:21,338 --> 00:05:23,966 My father would say, "You have to check Pops out." 49 00:05:24,059 --> 00:05:25,561 I was going, "Man, I don't want Pops." 50 00:05:25,650 --> 00:05:27,778 In New Orleans, too, where so much what we call 51 00:05:27,865 --> 00:05:29,283 "Uncle Tomming" goes on. 52 00:05:29,376 --> 00:05:31,004 Playing Dixie, shuffling. 53 00:05:31,104 --> 00:05:33,857 In my time, I hated that with an unbelievable passion. 54 00:05:34,526 --> 00:05:36,987 When I was growing up, there was no way for me to even express 55 00:05:37,087 --> 00:05:40,674 the type of anger and hatred I had toward that type of behaviour. 56 00:05:41,175 --> 00:05:43,302 So, I could not appreciate Armstrong. 57 00:05:43,778 --> 00:05:46,781 But when I left New Orleans, and I was in New York at that time, 58 00:05:46,881 --> 00:05:48,256 my father sent me a tape. 59 00:05:48,356 --> 00:05:50,859 He said, "Man, why don't you learn one of these Pops solos?" 60 00:06:05,974 --> 00:06:08,268 So I put it on and I started to work on it. 61 00:06:08,368 --> 00:06:10,537 Man, I could not play this solo at all. 62 00:06:11,013 --> 00:06:13,307 Just the endurance of Louis Armstrong. 63 00:06:13,401 --> 00:06:15,695 He never stopped playing. He was always up around high B's. 64 00:06:15,785 --> 00:06:18,537 And when we got to the final chorus, I called my father. 65 00:06:18,632 --> 00:06:21,760 I said, "Man, I didn't understand about Pops." 66 00:06:21,860 --> 00:06:23,862 He just started laughing. He said, "That's right". 67 00:06:43,929 --> 00:06:46,348 Louis loved his home in Queens. 68 00:06:46,448 --> 00:06:49,868 Some people said that it wasn't palatial enough. 69 00:06:51,161 --> 00:06:53,080 And he didn't wanna move anywhere else. 70 00:06:54,723 --> 00:06:58,644 When tape came on the scene, Louis became enamoured of that. 71 00:06:58,744 --> 00:07:02,248 And he used it most of all for conversations. 72 00:07:02,348 --> 00:07:05,142 He had friends come to the house, and he would tape it. 73 00:07:05,776 --> 00:07:10,823 {\an8}Louis had a lot of, sort of, what I would describe as archival materials. 74 00:07:10,917 --> 00:07:12,752 {\an8}I mean, tapes and things like that. 75 00:07:12,842 --> 00:07:16,053 {\an8}He had his own study. It was taboo to everyone. 76 00:07:16,148 --> 00:07:18,860 {\an8}That was his. He'd close that door and nobody bothered him. 77 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,212 He had his tapes and everything of his was in there. 78 00:07:21,676 --> 00:07:25,179 {\an8}I've heard a lot of reel-to-reels of Pops just talking. 79 00:07:25,279 --> 00:07:26,697 {\an8}Everyday life recordings. 80 00:07:27,239 --> 00:07:28,699 {\an8}His humanity comes through. 81 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,831 {\an8}I got tapes on my wall in my den. 82 00:07:36,390 --> 00:07:39,977 {\an8}For 40 years, Lucille had one of them Tandbergs 83 00:07:40,071 --> 00:07:42,740 put up there with two tapes together. 84 00:07:42,830 --> 00:07:46,625 That really knocked me out because we couldn't afford no den 85 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,096 in them early days. 86 00:07:48,196 --> 00:07:50,198 No, we've gotta sleep in that room. 87 00:07:51,664 --> 00:07:53,457 - Now you got a den. - Now I got a den. 88 00:07:53,557 --> 00:07:57,811 I got all of my tapes around the walls and just pick out what I wanna hear. 89 00:07:58,754 --> 00:08:01,507 He was the busiest person, taking care of things when he was home. 90 00:08:01,607 --> 00:08:03,275 It was his relaxation. 91 00:08:04,042 --> 00:08:08,547 He would sit up in his study for hours and hours, 92 00:08:08,641 --> 00:08:09,934 indexing his tapes. 93 00:08:10,024 --> 00:08:13,234 And he has a hobby of cutting out pictures, 94 00:08:13,321 --> 00:08:18,409 {\an8}you know, and paste them up on the ceiling in his den, all over the walls. 95 00:08:18,495 --> 00:08:20,916 I've got scrapbooks that Louis had 96 00:08:21,009 --> 00:08:24,095 that were made up when he first played the Palladium back in '32. 97 00:08:24,195 --> 00:08:28,533 Most of the pictures and the newspaper write-ups have gone yellow. 98 00:08:29,025 --> 00:08:30,568 People asked all the time, 99 00:08:30,662 --> 00:08:32,163 "Why is he recording these tapes? 100 00:08:32,253 --> 00:08:35,299 Why is he writing down all of his thoughts?" 101 00:08:35,386 --> 00:08:36,513 And all this kind of stuff. 102 00:08:36,599 --> 00:08:39,851 He knew that one day they were gonna write about him in the history books. 103 00:08:39,936 --> 00:08:43,773 And so he wanted to make sure all sides of him... good, bad, ugly... 104 00:08:43,865 --> 00:08:47,577 were gonna be captured and preserved by himself. 105 00:08:47,677 --> 00:08:48,886 Not by anybody else. 106 00:08:54,977 --> 00:08:57,980 Hello, folks. This is old Louis "Satchmo" Armstrong. 107 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,123 I just finished this concert here and 108 00:09:00,624 --> 00:09:04,169 I feel good 'cause I had a nice supper of Wiener schnitzels. 109 00:09:06,271 --> 00:09:09,650 Glad to see you around and dig the concerts. 110 00:09:09,750 --> 00:09:12,962 We've been playing every night around the neighbourhood cities. 111 00:09:13,062 --> 00:09:15,314 So, later. Goodbye. 112 00:09:36,970 --> 00:09:40,181 Louis Armstrong is the prime minister of the world of jazz. 113 00:09:40,275 --> 00:09:42,193 He and his trumpet are at the summit. 114 00:09:42,283 --> 00:09:44,743 His European concerts have broken all records. 115 00:09:44,838 --> 00:09:48,758 Satchmo is one of our more valuable items for export. 116 00:09:48,858 --> 00:09:51,986 His recordings are hot on both sides of the iron curtain. 117 00:10:02,169 --> 00:10:05,255 Satchmo, you always draw an audience, don't you? 118 00:10:05,355 --> 00:10:08,609 Yeah, man. That shows you there's cats in all walks of life. 119 00:10:16,634 --> 00:10:18,636 {\an8}He broke so many barriers. 120 00:10:18,736 --> 00:10:22,990 {\an8}He would be the first Black performer to open up a club, 121 00:10:23,090 --> 00:10:25,426 a ballroom, a radio station. 122 00:10:26,084 --> 00:10:33,008 He was the first Black movie performer to have his name above the title. 123 00:10:49,775 --> 00:10:51,193 Don't you ever get tired? 124 00:10:51,919 --> 00:10:55,214 Well, daddy, I'm just a little beat from my youth. 125 00:10:55,314 --> 00:10:56,982 {\an8}You had quite a session here tonight. 126 00:10:57,082 --> 00:11:02,045 {\an8}Yeah, we just start playing it the same as we did in the tailgates in New Orleans. 127 00:11:02,813 --> 00:11:04,398 It's the same music. 128 00:11:04,498 --> 00:11:06,250 And it's universal, daddy. 129 00:11:09,002 --> 00:11:15,008 ♪ Yes, way down yonder in New Orleans 130 00:11:15,818 --> 00:11:19,530 ♪ Man, you should have made All those scenes 131 00:11:19,630 --> 00:11:21,339 {\an8}"Just saying 'Hello, folks' 132 00:11:21,439 --> 00:11:24,442 {\an8}over a microphone sounds simple and innocent, doesn't it? 133 00:11:24,994 --> 00:11:27,413 {\an8}But I remember when it wasn't so simple. 134 00:11:27,513 --> 00:11:31,767 Back in 1931, I was invited to play in my hometown, 135 00:11:31,867 --> 00:11:36,830 New Orleans, at a fancy nightclub, the Suburban Gardens." 136 00:11:43,262 --> 00:11:47,391 {\an8}You spent a lot of time in New Orleans, in the South, looking for signs. 137 00:11:47,485 --> 00:11:51,030 {\an8}You see a restroom that said, "White Gentlemen." 138 00:11:51,127 --> 00:11:53,004 This always was a put-down. 139 00:11:53,104 --> 00:11:56,149 So, you saw that flashing in your face all the time. 140 00:11:57,785 --> 00:12:00,079 {\an8}The only way Louis would agree to go to New Orleans 141 00:12:00,179 --> 00:12:02,181 {\an8}was on his own private train. 142 00:12:02,781 --> 00:12:08,162 {\an8}Which meant that we could have our private car, our cooks, 143 00:12:08,256 --> 00:12:10,675 chefs, porters and things like that. 144 00:12:10,772 --> 00:12:13,066 In New Orleans, we're, quite naturally, 145 00:12:13,166 --> 00:12:15,293 the first band on the radio down there… 146 00:12:15,753 --> 00:12:17,338 Fleischmann's Yeast presents 147 00:12:17,432 --> 00:12:19,141 another great half hour of entertainment, 148 00:12:19,231 --> 00:12:21,650 featuring music by Louis Armstrong and his orchestra. 149 00:12:21,737 --> 00:12:24,448 And you never heard of no spade playing on no radio 150 00:12:24,534 --> 00:12:26,536 in those days. Just starting. 151 00:12:26,621 --> 00:12:29,498 The night we opened, there's all the white boys 152 00:12:29,582 --> 00:12:31,042 that I was raised with, you know. 153 00:12:31,126 --> 00:12:33,587 Sitting up there, sharp. 154 00:12:33,670 --> 00:12:36,465 {\an8}They done got rich. Maybe their fathers done left 'em the... 155 00:12:36,548 --> 00:12:38,926 {\an8}the produce places and different things 156 00:12:39,010 --> 00:12:41,054 {\an8}that when we was kids we used to hang around. 157 00:12:41,137 --> 00:12:45,141 {\an8}And after school, we'd go out in the lots and play cowboys and Indians 158 00:12:45,224 --> 00:12:47,309 with old broken slates and things like that. 159 00:12:47,401 --> 00:12:48,777 You know what I mean? We... 160 00:12:48,877 --> 00:12:50,420 We was the Indians, of course. 161 00:12:52,298 --> 00:12:55,426 And at that time, there was no mixing of the races at all. 162 00:12:55,526 --> 00:12:57,528 The only way our people could hear the band 163 00:12:58,179 --> 00:13:00,973 was to come out and sit along the levee and hear... 164 00:13:01,073 --> 00:13:03,325 and hear the music from the... from a distance. 165 00:13:11,809 --> 00:13:15,229 They had 50,000 Negroes on the levee to hear my music. 166 00:13:15,323 --> 00:13:17,659 See, and I had been away about nine or ten years 167 00:13:17,748 --> 00:13:19,667 and I done got northern-fied. 168 00:13:19,754 --> 00:13:22,799 I done forgot about a whole lot of that foolishness down there, you know? 169 00:13:22,884 --> 00:13:26,513 The night we're opening, and I'm charming, 170 00:13:26,597 --> 00:13:29,642 and there's... place pack and jam. 171 00:13:29,726 --> 00:13:35,274 But this night, they done brought this man up to... "It's a big deal, now. 172 00:13:35,366 --> 00:13:37,285 You bring on Louis Armstrong. 173 00:13:37,385 --> 00:13:40,221 He's a New Orleans boy and blah, blah, blah." 174 00:13:40,963 --> 00:13:44,800 But a second before this cat had to go to that mic 175 00:13:44,894 --> 00:13:47,521 and bring me on, he walked away. 176 00:13:47,611 --> 00:13:52,658 Say, "I just can't introduce that nigger. Can't do it." 177 00:13:52,745 --> 00:13:56,374 They got me and told me what he says. I said, "Well, don't worry about it". 178 00:13:56,467 --> 00:13:58,720 You know? I said, "Give me that card, boys." 179 00:13:58,820 --> 00:14:01,323 And I walked to that mic. And when I went into… 180 00:14:02,861 --> 00:14:05,905 ♪ Pale moon shining ♪ 181 00:14:06,005 --> 00:14:09,341 Man, you thought the walls was coming in. 182 00:14:09,441 --> 00:14:14,779 ♪ Now the pale moon's shining 183 00:14:15,606 --> 00:14:18,525 ♪ On the fields below 184 00:14:20,611 --> 00:14:26,200 ♪ The folks are crooning soft and low 185 00:14:27,659 --> 00:14:30,704 ♪ You needn't tell me, boy 186 00:14:31,330 --> 00:14:34,750 ♪ Because I know, yes 187 00:14:35,934 --> 00:14:40,189 ♪ When it's sleepy time down South, yes ♪ 188 00:14:40,283 --> 00:14:42,702 And this announcer's standing there. 189 00:14:42,792 --> 00:14:45,337 He said, "I didn't know this would happen in the South in New Orleans. 190 00:14:45,432 --> 00:14:46,808 Never happened before." 191 00:14:46,908 --> 00:14:49,661 So, they fired him and everything, and I took over myself. 192 00:14:57,022 --> 00:15:03,737 ♪ Good evening, everybody ♪ 193 00:15:09,801 --> 00:15:12,471 {\an8}It was particularly galling for him to go home 194 00:15:12,565 --> 00:15:15,777 {\an8}after being lionised the way he was around the world 195 00:15:15,867 --> 00:15:17,994 and see the same type of prejudice. 196 00:15:18,089 --> 00:15:21,551 His feelings were perpetually hurt by the nation 197 00:15:21,651 --> 00:15:24,153 and the injustice that he knew when he was a boy. 198 00:15:25,650 --> 00:15:27,902 Pops grew up very hard. 199 00:15:27,996 --> 00:15:29,374 It's been said, Pops, 200 00:15:29,464 --> 00:15:32,008 that you were brought up in abject poverty. 201 00:15:32,095 --> 00:15:33,763 You didn't have money when you were a kid, though. 202 00:15:33,848 --> 00:15:37,393 We always had money. I could shoot craps, sold newspapers, 203 00:15:37,478 --> 00:15:39,522 and I always hustled on the... 204 00:15:39,606 --> 00:15:42,401 with the quartet and a little guitar, just sit and go busking. 205 00:15:42,493 --> 00:15:44,370 And I always had a pocket full of money. 206 00:15:44,470 --> 00:15:48,141 You know, in 1915, you had five dollars, you had a whole lot of money. 207 00:15:48,615 --> 00:15:51,285 And I didn't ever have to beg nobody for nothing all my life. 208 00:15:51,785 --> 00:15:54,079 Always a kid that had some get-up about him. 209 00:15:56,731 --> 00:15:59,860 I was born in James Alley, they called it. 210 00:15:59,960 --> 00:16:04,506 It's back of town. That's the real New Orleans. 211 00:16:07,317 --> 00:16:09,570 We have a photo of your mama I wanna show everybody. 212 00:16:09,664 --> 00:16:13,001 {\an8}- Yeah. That's my mother there, Mayann. - How did she discipline you? 213 00:16:13,098 --> 00:16:15,142 What did she do when you did something wrong? 214 00:16:15,242 --> 00:16:17,077 She had to whip the hell out of us both. 215 00:16:18,212 --> 00:16:20,214 And, man, she hit me like a man. 216 00:16:20,314 --> 00:16:22,691 And then she married Willie Armstrong. 217 00:16:23,442 --> 00:16:27,446 I mean, I'm only going by what they tell me along that line. 218 00:16:27,988 --> 00:16:30,532 'Cause as long as I can remember, they wasn't together. 219 00:16:31,008 --> 00:16:33,886 We didn't have much money and things like that. 220 00:16:33,980 --> 00:16:36,941 But we lived and enjoyed good food. And... 221 00:16:37,031 --> 00:16:38,532 - You had a lot of fun? - Yeah. 222 00:16:38,620 --> 00:16:41,747 My mother could take 15 cents and go to the Poydras Market 223 00:16:41,833 --> 00:16:43,835 and come back and cook a meal. 224 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,255 And you had to lick your fingers, it was just so good. 225 00:16:46,340 --> 00:16:48,383 - You know what I mean? Yes, sir. - For 15 cents? 226 00:16:48,467 --> 00:16:50,219 In those days, you could take a newspaper, 227 00:16:50,311 --> 00:16:51,812 and I'd go to the fish market 228 00:16:51,912 --> 00:16:55,499 and buy a whole newspaper full of fish heads. 229 00:16:56,241 --> 00:16:58,202 Just plain, chopped-off fish heads 230 00:16:58,296 --> 00:17:00,632 that they wouldn't use, they put aside. 231 00:17:00,722 --> 00:17:03,099 Yeah. That'd be garbage for them, wouldn't it? 232 00:17:03,185 --> 00:17:05,896 Well, they just ain't got time to do what we did with... 233 00:17:05,989 --> 00:17:07,868 - Yeah. - My mother would get them fish heads 234 00:17:07,968 --> 00:17:10,930 and cook 'em and put a lot of canned tomatoes in 'em 235 00:17:11,474 --> 00:17:14,435 and call it court bouillon and serve it on top of some rice. 236 00:17:14,535 --> 00:17:17,996 Boy, you talking about beautiful food. And delicious. 237 00:17:19,148 --> 00:17:22,985 And the next morning, I'd go to school with a cabbage sandwich. 238 00:17:23,085 --> 00:17:25,045 Kids would be begging for a bite. 239 00:17:25,796 --> 00:17:27,923 - No kidding? - Absolutely. Yeah. 240 00:17:29,274 --> 00:17:31,193 {\an8}New Orleans was a stomping ground. 241 00:17:31,287 --> 00:17:33,373 {\an8}Well, they played every type of music. 242 00:17:33,470 --> 00:17:38,183 {\an8}Everyone, no doubt, had a different style. They had every class. 243 00:17:38,283 --> 00:17:40,785 We had Spanish. We had coloureds. We had whites. 244 00:17:41,454 --> 00:17:44,123 I was working for some Jewish people at seven years old. 245 00:17:44,217 --> 00:17:47,345 They had a rags-and-bones yard. 246 00:17:47,442 --> 00:17:49,444 And then we used to go down to the red-light district 247 00:17:49,544 --> 00:17:53,172 and deliver stone coal, five cents a water bucket. 248 00:17:53,949 --> 00:17:57,202 ♪ I've got those coal cart blues 249 00:17:57,762 --> 00:18:00,723 ♪ I'm really all confused 250 00:18:00,817 --> 00:18:04,279 ♪ I'm 'bout to lose my very mind 251 00:18:04,369 --> 00:18:08,582 ♪ It always worry, worry me all the time 252 00:18:08,669 --> 00:18:11,213 {\an8}The centre of entertainment in New Orleans was Storyville, 253 00:18:11,298 --> 00:18:13,592 {\an8}the notorious red-light district. 254 00:18:13,677 --> 00:18:17,472 {\an8}"The Negroes were only allowed to work in the red-light district. 255 00:18:17,556 --> 00:18:20,058 {\an8}Most of the help was Negroes. 256 00:18:20,150 --> 00:18:23,236 They were paid good salaries and had a longtime job. 257 00:18:23,336 --> 00:18:26,923 The pay was swell no matter what your vocation was. 258 00:18:29,293 --> 00:18:32,379 No mixing at the guest tables at no time. 259 00:18:32,473 --> 00:18:37,228 As far as to buy a little trim, that was absolutely out of the question." 260 00:18:37,318 --> 00:18:39,987 Down in the district, the red-light district. 261 00:18:40,075 --> 00:18:41,785 As you call them, "prostitutes," 262 00:18:41,871 --> 00:18:43,956 where they get five dollars for a job, 263 00:18:44,048 --> 00:18:46,843 the whores where I'm talking about, up in my neighbourhood, 264 00:18:46,943 --> 00:18:49,362 they get 50 cents to a dollar. 265 00:18:50,607 --> 00:18:52,358 Well, quite naturally, 266 00:18:52,452 --> 00:18:56,122 they're standing there with nothing on but a chemise. 267 00:18:56,219 --> 00:18:58,930 We'd call 'em teddies at the time, you know. 268 00:18:59,030 --> 00:19:03,243 So, there I'd be, a little boy, and put some coal on the grates, you know. 269 00:19:03,711 --> 00:19:07,089 Quite naturally, you gotta take a mug there right quick. 270 00:19:07,189 --> 00:19:09,691 If they'd seen me, they'd have slapped me down. 271 00:19:11,318 --> 00:19:12,903 Yeah, I actually did all that. 272 00:19:13,654 --> 00:19:16,240 But I used to hear all that good music too. 273 00:19:19,177 --> 00:19:21,137 That's how I got a chance to hear Bunk Johnson, 274 00:19:21,231 --> 00:19:24,317 Manuel Perez, and all the best bands and everything, you see? 275 00:19:24,414 --> 00:19:27,918 - They were all in the red-light district? - Yeah, they... Each corner had a band. 276 00:19:28,018 --> 00:19:29,603 Cabarets, they called them, see? 277 00:19:30,671 --> 00:19:32,005 And we'd dance. 278 00:19:33,198 --> 00:19:34,950 And I'd be waving at 'em all. 279 00:19:35,050 --> 00:19:37,970 And when they'd go inside, we had to go to bed and sleep. 280 00:19:40,447 --> 00:19:44,952 New Year's Eve, 1912. Louis and his pals were out on the street. 281 00:19:45,052 --> 00:19:47,847 And they were celebrating and making noise like everybody else. 282 00:19:47,947 --> 00:19:50,241 And somehow, Louis got hold of a .38 revolver. 283 00:19:50,833 --> 00:19:53,669 I found this pistol. Got blanks in it. 284 00:19:53,763 --> 00:19:56,558 But the noise is what everybody give you. 285 00:19:56,655 --> 00:19:59,575 So when I look around, a little guy was shooting 286 00:19:59,675 --> 00:20:02,511 a little old six-shooter across the street. You know. 287 00:20:04,346 --> 00:20:06,348 So, I was singing in a little quartet, you know, 288 00:20:06,442 --> 00:20:08,611 we used to go around and pass the hat, you know. 289 00:20:08,701 --> 00:20:11,871 And they called me Dipper at that time. Dippermouth, you know. 290 00:20:11,966 --> 00:20:13,217 They say, "Get him, Dipper." 291 00:20:13,317 --> 00:20:15,819 And I reached up there to grab the .38 and… 292 00:20:18,411 --> 00:20:19,620 and brighten it up 293 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,140 until that detective was hugging me and I said, "Oh…" 294 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:26,952 In those days, the cops would whip your head 295 00:20:27,052 --> 00:20:29,889 and then ask you your name afterwards, you know? 296 00:20:29,989 --> 00:20:33,201 And you think that's something that's changed? 297 00:20:33,734 --> 00:20:36,862 Well, I haven't been down there in so long. I'm gonna go down and see. 298 00:20:38,506 --> 00:20:39,799 And I couldn't get away from him. 299 00:20:39,893 --> 00:20:41,811 He took me down to the juvenile court 300 00:20:41,908 --> 00:20:45,661 and then, the next day, they took me out to the orphanage. 301 00:20:45,761 --> 00:20:48,472 It was called Coloured Waif's Home for Boys. 302 00:20:49,608 --> 00:20:51,860 When was the first time in your life 303 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,129 that you actually picked up a horn? 304 00:20:54,979 --> 00:20:58,191 That was, you know, when I went to the orphanage. 305 00:20:58,285 --> 00:21:00,205 I was about 13. 306 00:21:00,302 --> 00:21:04,682 {\an8}This is the first horn that Louis Armstrong ever owned. 307 00:21:04,782 --> 00:21:09,912 {\an8}We did not have much money, but we are proud of encouraging him. 308 00:21:10,621 --> 00:21:12,498 The little brass band was very good, 309 00:21:12,592 --> 00:21:16,262 and Mr Davis made the boys play a little of every kind of music. 310 00:21:16,352 --> 00:21:18,437 When he first arrived at your home, 311 00:21:18,525 --> 00:21:20,817 could you tell right away he wanted to be a musician? 312 00:21:20,903 --> 00:21:22,613 - We could, yes. - How could you tell that? 313 00:21:22,698 --> 00:21:25,868 Because he organised quartets, singing, 314 00:21:25,952 --> 00:21:29,289 then he introduced dancing out there, tap dancing. 315 00:21:29,373 --> 00:21:32,417 The boys would clap and sing, and he'd sing and dance. 316 00:21:32,501 --> 00:21:34,002 Then when I did get him to play 317 00:21:34,086 --> 00:21:35,879 "When the Saints Go Marching In," 318 00:21:35,963 --> 00:21:37,339 "Put On Your Old Grey Bonnet," 319 00:21:37,422 --> 00:21:39,091 there was a high note to be out on 320 00:21:39,174 --> 00:21:41,552 - because it was at the end of the strain. - Yeah. 321 00:21:41,635 --> 00:21:43,679 None of the other boys couldn't make it. 322 00:21:43,762 --> 00:21:45,347 And I couldn't make it myself. 323 00:21:45,439 --> 00:21:48,067 But he would blow the high C above the staff 324 00:21:48,167 --> 00:21:49,878 to let us know that's the end of the strain. 325 00:21:50,662 --> 00:21:52,997 Every day I practiced faithfully 326 00:21:53,091 --> 00:21:54,801 on the lessons Mr Davis gave me. 327 00:21:54,891 --> 00:22:00,481 I became so good on the cornet that one day Mr Davis said to me, 328 00:22:00,576 --> 00:22:03,495 "Louis, I'm going to make you leader of the band." 329 00:22:03,595 --> 00:22:06,055 I jumped straight up into the air. 330 00:22:07,303 --> 00:22:09,597 You see, what people don't understand, in New Orleans, 331 00:22:09,691 --> 00:22:12,360 the majority of the musicians haven't had the opportunity 332 00:22:12,450 --> 00:22:13,994 of having a teacher. 333 00:22:14,088 --> 00:22:16,924 And they only pick up an instrument and just fool around with it 334 00:22:17,024 --> 00:22:20,944 until they begin to try to get some kind of tone or notes out of it. 335 00:22:21,508 --> 00:22:22,843 And that's how they started. 336 00:22:24,319 --> 00:22:26,572 We had military training in the orphanage. 337 00:22:26,672 --> 00:22:28,382 And "Star-Spangled Banner," 338 00:22:28,482 --> 00:22:31,944 we was taught that was our national anthem. 339 00:22:33,478 --> 00:22:36,231 And you're supposed to stand up and salute. 340 00:22:38,001 --> 00:22:41,462 And I was taught to play that tune 341 00:22:41,556 --> 00:22:45,393 with every spark I had in my soul. 342 00:22:45,482 --> 00:22:48,319 On our lands we was taught. 343 00:22:48,414 --> 00:22:53,294 And when we play it, that's the feeling I have. 344 00:22:53,394 --> 00:22:56,481 And then they hoist that flag. 345 00:23:01,465 --> 00:23:03,967 Note for note, I still remember. 346 00:23:12,743 --> 00:23:15,913 Do you have a happy feeling when you play that song? 347 00:23:16,013 --> 00:23:18,432 I feel that I'm somebody. 348 00:23:18,532 --> 00:23:19,574 Yeah. 349 00:23:20,292 --> 00:23:22,586 When I finish playing "Star-Spangled Banner," 350 00:23:22,686 --> 00:23:29,276 I feel just as proud as anybody that ever picked up a gun, 351 00:23:29,376 --> 00:23:33,922 shouldered a rifle, and said, "Forward march". 352 00:23:41,688 --> 00:23:45,526 {\an8}I was with James Baldwin, listening to Louis, 353 00:23:45,626 --> 00:23:47,419 {\an8}and he played a great set. 354 00:23:47,519 --> 00:23:51,690 {\an8}And then he ended with "The Star-Spangled Banner." 355 00:23:52,749 --> 00:23:55,335 And James turned to me, and he said, 356 00:23:55,435 --> 00:23:59,064 "You know, that's the first time I've liked that song." 357 00:24:01,967 --> 00:24:04,219 What he heard from Louis 358 00:24:04,319 --> 00:24:10,617 did away with all the stuff that was accumulated around it. 359 00:24:11,268 --> 00:24:16,106 And just in the purity that Louis brought to it 360 00:24:16,206 --> 00:24:18,584 made him appreciate it. 361 00:24:19,209 --> 00:24:23,046 {\an8}Everybody talks about Hendrix and "The Star-Spangled Banner". 362 00:24:30,863 --> 00:24:33,991 But Armstrong was performing it as early as World War II. 363 00:24:34,085 --> 00:24:37,213 You know, right after Pearl Harbour, he started putting it in his repertoire. 364 00:24:37,303 --> 00:24:41,473 And he is going on stage and pouring his soul into that song. 365 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:42,769 And there's pride, 366 00:24:42,855 --> 00:24:46,401 but there's also a tremendous amount of hurt every time you hear him play it. 367 00:24:46,485 --> 00:24:51,324 {\an8}Louis Armstrong was coming from a 40-year memory of what slavery was. 368 00:24:51,408 --> 00:24:54,620 {\an8}He understood that there was a battle in this country, 369 00:24:54,712 --> 00:24:58,132 so he was trying to use his music to transform and reform 370 00:24:58,232 --> 00:25:01,276 and lead the country closer to its higher ideals. 371 00:25:13,697 --> 00:25:18,494 Who, if anybody, was the biggest influence on your early life? 372 00:25:18,588 --> 00:25:20,340 - What, in music? - In music. 373 00:25:20,429 --> 00:25:21,722 King Oliver. 374 00:25:21,809 --> 00:25:25,063 'Cause I... Outside of the Waif's Home, the orphanage. 375 00:25:25,149 --> 00:25:26,566 When I got out, he took me over. 376 00:25:26,651 --> 00:25:30,112 And he always told me, "Never play a lot of that jiujitsu music. 377 00:25:30,204 --> 00:25:32,332 Play the lead. You got a good tone, 378 00:25:32,432 --> 00:25:35,143 and you know how to phrase, and it says something." 379 00:25:36,554 --> 00:25:40,391 And I carried his cornet when he wasn't blowing and marching. 380 00:25:40,485 --> 00:25:42,987 And the police would have been running me out the parade. 381 00:25:43,077 --> 00:25:44,411 You know, I stayed with him on it. 382 00:25:44,498 --> 00:25:45,499 But that's my man. 383 00:25:45,585 --> 00:25:48,838 You play in that hot sun, you know, with that uniform on, 384 00:25:48,931 --> 00:25:51,892 and he put a hanky on his neck to keep the sun off his neck. 385 00:25:51,992 --> 00:25:53,535 And he was really blowing that horn. 386 00:26:00,118 --> 00:26:03,497 When the authorities closed down sinful old Storyville, 387 00:26:03,591 --> 00:26:07,428 more than 200 musicians suddenly found themselves out of work. 388 00:26:07,518 --> 00:26:10,104 King Oliver had left town anyhow for Chicago, 389 00:26:10,191 --> 00:26:12,068 where they had heard that their kind of music, 390 00:26:12,162 --> 00:26:13,622 called jazz up north, 391 00:26:13,722 --> 00:26:15,098 was getting very popular. 392 00:26:15,552 --> 00:26:19,889 {\an8}"I have always been crazy over Joe Oliver and his playing. 393 00:26:19,983 --> 00:26:22,944 {\an8}So when Joe sent for me to join him in Chicago, 394 00:26:23,041 --> 00:26:25,752 I was happy because I knew I'd feel at home 395 00:26:25,852 --> 00:26:27,061 and he'd see after me." 396 00:26:32,067 --> 00:26:33,235 Chicago was about 397 00:26:33,329 --> 00:26:37,167 the second most popular section for Black people in the country. 398 00:26:37,256 --> 00:26:40,134 It was a great migration point where people went off 399 00:26:40,221 --> 00:26:43,225 from Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas. 400 00:26:43,318 --> 00:26:44,653 You could walk to Chicago, 401 00:26:44,753 --> 00:26:48,715 just keep walking if you had enough muscles in your legs. 402 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,095 I'd have gone back home 403 00:26:51,195 --> 00:26:53,947 if I knew I'd be pushed out into all them tall buildings. 404 00:26:54,531 --> 00:26:56,992 Finally, I went to the Lincoln Garden… 405 00:26:59,369 --> 00:27:00,621 and played that music. 406 00:27:01,389 --> 00:27:06,519 I was so happy I did not know what to do. I had hit the big time. 407 00:27:06,613 --> 00:27:08,740 I was up north with the greats. 408 00:27:08,837 --> 00:27:11,840 I was playing with my idol, the king. 409 00:27:11,940 --> 00:27:16,778 All of my boyhood dreams had come true at last. 410 00:27:19,740 --> 00:27:23,619 All along, I'd been hearing from all the musicians about Little Louis, 411 00:27:23,713 --> 00:27:25,798 and what a good trumpet player he was gonna be. 412 00:27:25,888 --> 00:27:29,308 So, when he brought Little Louis over to Dreamland to meet me, 413 00:27:29,395 --> 00:27:32,023 Little Louis was 226 pounds. 414 00:27:32,108 --> 00:27:33,818 So I said, "Little Louis? 415 00:27:33,903 --> 00:27:36,530 How come you call him Little Louis as big as he is?" 416 00:27:36,615 --> 00:27:39,284 I wasn't impressed at all. I was very disappointed. 417 00:27:39,376 --> 00:27:42,837 I probably would have never paid any attention to Louis's playing 418 00:27:42,937 --> 00:27:45,439 if King Oliver hadn't said to me one night 419 00:27:46,041 --> 00:27:48,126 that Louis could play better than he could. 420 00:27:48,852 --> 00:27:50,896 He says, "But as long as I keep him with me, 421 00:27:50,990 --> 00:27:54,410 he won't be able to get ahead of me. I'll still be the king." 422 00:27:54,500 --> 00:27:56,794 After he told me that, I started listening. 423 00:27:56,889 --> 00:28:00,141 But when we got this recording date in Richmond, Indiana, for Gennett, 424 00:28:00,241 --> 00:28:01,951 in trying to get the balance, 425 00:28:02,407 --> 00:28:04,618 Joe and Louis stood right next to each other, 426 00:28:04,712 --> 00:28:05,922 as they always had, 427 00:28:06,012 --> 00:28:08,890 and you couldn't hear a note that Joe was playing 428 00:28:08,977 --> 00:28:11,104 and only could hear Louis. 429 00:28:11,198 --> 00:28:13,033 So he said, "Well, I gotta do something." 430 00:28:13,133 --> 00:28:17,095 So they put Louis about 15 feet away, over in the corner, from the band. 431 00:28:17,799 --> 00:28:21,761 And Louis was sitting in the co... standing in the corner, looking so sad. 432 00:28:21,855 --> 00:28:24,691 You know, he thought it was bad for him to have to be separated from the band. 433 00:28:24,788 --> 00:28:26,707 And so, I looked at him and smiled 434 00:28:26,807 --> 00:28:28,934 to reassure him that he was all right, you know. 435 00:28:29,476 --> 00:28:30,936 And then I said to myself, 436 00:28:31,030 --> 00:28:36,828 "Now, if they have to put him that far away in order to hear Joe, 437 00:28:36,925 --> 00:28:38,218 he's gotta be better." 438 00:28:38,318 --> 00:28:39,485 Then I was convinced. 439 00:28:43,916 --> 00:28:46,794 Then Louis and I started getting to be sweethearts. 440 00:28:46,894 --> 00:28:48,687 Then we decided to get married. 441 00:28:49,538 --> 00:28:53,417 I told him, I said, "Now, I don't want to be married to a second trumpet player." 442 00:28:53,511 --> 00:28:54,804 He says, "What are you talking about?" 443 00:28:54,894 --> 00:28:57,229 I said, "Well, I don't want to be married to second trumpet. 444 00:28:57,317 --> 00:28:58,526 I want you to play first." 445 00:28:58,612 --> 00:29:00,780 He said, "Well, I can't play first. Joe's playing first." 446 00:29:00,865 --> 00:29:02,533 I said, "Well, that's why you gotta quit." 447 00:29:02,617 --> 00:29:04,118 He said, "I can't quit Mr Joe. 448 00:29:04,210 --> 00:29:06,587 Mr Joe sent for me, and I can't quit him." 449 00:29:06,687 --> 00:29:09,065 I said, "Well, it's Mr Joe or me." 450 00:29:12,395 --> 00:29:16,107 I listened very carefully when Lil told me 451 00:29:16,201 --> 00:29:18,619 to always play the lead. 452 00:29:18,709 --> 00:29:21,795 He played 30 or 50 high notes, high C's, 453 00:29:21,890 --> 00:29:23,850 on this one tune they were playing. 454 00:29:23,950 --> 00:29:27,328 And the next day, everybody on the street was talking about it. 455 00:29:31,873 --> 00:29:34,083 People would come to two or three shows 456 00:29:34,177 --> 00:29:35,970 waiting for him to miss it one day. 457 00:29:36,060 --> 00:29:37,102 So, he said to me, 458 00:29:37,190 --> 00:29:39,400 "Do you know people are coming to the show four or five times 459 00:29:39,494 --> 00:29:40,953 to hear me miss that F?" 460 00:29:41,053 --> 00:29:43,389 I said, "Yeah? Well, make some G's at home." 461 00:29:43,992 --> 00:29:46,161 So, he started blowing around the house. 462 00:29:47,204 --> 00:29:49,039 I said, "Oh, my God. Why did I say that?" 463 00:29:52,601 --> 00:29:55,354 He never misses hitting that high note, does he, folks? 464 00:29:55,448 --> 00:29:57,408 Armstrong extends the range of the horn, 465 00:29:57,498 --> 00:30:00,042 ending every show with hundreds of high C's. 466 00:30:00,129 --> 00:30:03,924 Just from that, more and more musicians start playing higher notes. 467 00:30:04,018 --> 00:30:06,938 He really perfects the art of improvisation. 468 00:30:07,038 --> 00:30:08,540 He shows the world what it could be. 469 00:30:09,660 --> 00:30:11,829 {\an8}Tommy Rockwell had heard him, 470 00:30:11,929 --> 00:30:17,351 {\an8}so it was he who suggested that he form an recording outfit. 471 00:30:17,451 --> 00:30:21,706 And as a result, it was called Louis Armstrong's Hot Five. 472 00:30:28,328 --> 00:30:29,872 Do that thing, Papa Dip. 473 00:30:30,557 --> 00:30:32,433 You didn't work in clubs with the... 474 00:30:32,527 --> 00:30:35,989 No, we never did think about nothing like that. 475 00:30:36,079 --> 00:30:40,500 We just make up them things and scat. Yeah. 476 00:30:40,587 --> 00:30:41,962 Wait. "Make up them things." 477 00:30:42,048 --> 00:30:43,467 - What do you mean? - Make up those tunes. 478 00:30:43,559 --> 00:30:45,562 - Just in the studio? - Yeah, sure. 479 00:30:45,662 --> 00:30:47,039 ♪ Say, don't you know it ♪ 480 00:30:49,116 --> 00:30:51,410 {\an8}There's a rumour that you invented scat. Is that true? 481 00:30:51,504 --> 00:30:56,050 {\an8}Well, they claim when we was recording "Heebie Jeebies," 482 00:30:56,140 --> 00:30:58,142 we get down to this part for the second chorus, 483 00:30:58,229 --> 00:30:59,523 and I drop the paper. 484 00:30:59,608 --> 00:31:02,236 President in the control booth, he says, "Keep on singing." 485 00:31:02,321 --> 00:31:03,155 - See? - Yeah. 486 00:31:03,239 --> 00:31:06,116 Well, that brought back memories of when I was a kid, 487 00:31:06,208 --> 00:31:07,667 going around in the quartet. 488 00:31:07,767 --> 00:31:09,936 You know, Rampart Street in New Orleans. 489 00:31:10,387 --> 00:31:12,723 Whenever we'd get to a part we didn't know the words, 490 00:31:12,817 --> 00:31:15,653 we'd go to scatting and blowing like a trumpet, 491 00:31:15,750 --> 00:31:16,751 or something like that. 492 00:31:16,851 --> 00:31:19,145 And it came to me just like that. 493 00:31:24,861 --> 00:31:27,071 When he's scatting, the notes he's picking, 494 00:31:27,165 --> 00:31:29,375 and how sophisticated the melodies he's creating... 495 00:31:29,465 --> 00:31:31,342 Louis Armstrong is never out of tune. 496 00:31:31,429 --> 00:31:34,015 He could do with his voice what he could do with his horn. 497 00:31:34,100 --> 00:31:36,311 When people sang in those days, 498 00:31:36,403 --> 00:31:38,949 they often sang in a very corny manner like… 499 00:31:39,049 --> 00:31:40,592 ♪ And I love you 500 00:31:41,043 --> 00:31:42,711 ♪ And you and me 501 00:31:42,811 --> 00:31:44,313 ♪ And the baby makes three 502 00:31:44,413 --> 00:31:45,957 ♪ Dinah 503 00:31:46,907 --> 00:31:49,493 ♪ Is there anyone finer 504 00:31:51,036 --> 00:31:53,372 ♪ In the state of Carolina? 505 00:31:55,015 --> 00:31:58,769 ♪ If there is and you know her Know her ♪ 506 00:31:58,869 --> 00:32:00,996 But Armstrong came in with another kind of thing 507 00:32:01,096 --> 00:32:02,639 where he had that kind of… 508 00:32:04,550 --> 00:32:06,051 you know. 509 00:32:06,777 --> 00:32:08,529 ♪ Oh, Dinah 510 00:32:08,623 --> 00:32:11,876 ♪ Is there anyone finer In the state of Carolina? 511 00:32:11,966 --> 00:32:14,593 ♪ If there is and you know Show me 512 00:32:14,681 --> 00:32:16,850 ♪ Dinah With her Dixie eyes blazin' 513 00:32:16,936 --> 00:32:18,604 ♪ How I love to sit and gaze 514 00:32:18,688 --> 00:32:20,523 ♪ Into the eyes of Dinah Lee 515 00:32:20,606 --> 00:32:21,983 ♪ Babe, every night 516 00:32:22,075 --> 00:32:23,869 ♪ When I shake with fright, oh 517 00:32:23,969 --> 00:32:25,971 ♪ 'Cause my Dinah might Change her mind ♪ 518 00:32:28,173 --> 00:32:31,218 Armstrong completely changes the way people sing. 519 00:32:31,312 --> 00:32:33,898 I'm talking soul singing. I'm talking Ray Charles. 520 00:32:33,988 --> 00:32:36,365 I'm talking Sam Cooke. I'm talking James Brown. 521 00:32:36,452 --> 00:32:40,165 I'm talking hip-hop. I'm talking funk. I'm talking pop music. 522 00:32:40,250 --> 00:32:42,252 I'm talking rock and roll. I'm talking the Beatles. 523 00:32:42,337 --> 00:32:45,507 Anybody who has basically uttered a sound 524 00:32:45,599 --> 00:32:49,728 on American pop radio in the last 90 years, 525 00:32:49,828 --> 00:32:52,456 it's because of Louis Armstrong's innovations. 526 00:33:08,714 --> 00:33:10,424 I met Louis on records. 527 00:33:10,518 --> 00:33:13,521 That "West End Blues" was a very, very moving experience, 528 00:33:13,611 --> 00:33:16,113 and it actually made a jazz fan out of me 529 00:33:16,208 --> 00:33:19,669 and ultimately found the direction for my whole career, 530 00:33:19,769 --> 00:33:21,479 as it did for so many people. 531 00:33:22,127 --> 00:33:23,921 "West End Blues" was a miniature masterpiece. 532 00:33:29,819 --> 00:33:34,240 I would say that jazz almost stems from Louis Armstrong. 533 00:33:34,334 --> 00:33:35,835 People are accustomed to saying, 534 00:33:35,925 --> 00:33:38,385 and I've heard it said a lot, that he was a genius. 535 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,399 But very few people talk about why he was a genius 536 00:33:41,499 --> 00:33:44,627 and what it was that his particular form of genius did. 537 00:33:49,613 --> 00:33:52,491 I could say now that what he was really doing 538 00:33:53,009 --> 00:33:55,845 was playing music for which there was no accounting 539 00:33:55,939 --> 00:33:57,815 in his immediate environment. 540 00:33:57,912 --> 00:34:01,624 {\an8}Louis Armstrong is the first important soloist 541 00:34:01,724 --> 00:34:06,396 {\an8}because he is the first to break away from Western harmony 542 00:34:07,156 --> 00:34:10,159 and to reintroduce the melodic 543 00:34:10,259 --> 00:34:13,929 and rhythmic developments of African music. 544 00:34:19,951 --> 00:34:20,953 Stop it! Stop it! 545 00:34:21,047 --> 00:34:23,424 You are playing notes between flat and natural. 546 00:34:23,514 --> 00:34:27,476 It's like discovering a secret scale just made for this type of music. 547 00:34:27,563 --> 00:34:31,817 {\an8}The so-called jazz scale is used only melodically. 548 00:34:31,911 --> 00:34:33,162 {\an8}That is, in the tune. 549 00:34:33,262 --> 00:34:37,809 In the harmony underneath, we still use our old un-flatted notes 550 00:34:38,929 --> 00:34:41,390 against the flatted note in the tune. 551 00:34:41,484 --> 00:34:43,694 So that causes a dissonance to happen. 552 00:34:43,784 --> 00:34:45,660 Jazz pianists are always using this dissonance. 553 00:34:45,748 --> 00:34:47,500 I'm sure it sounds familiar to you. 554 00:34:47,594 --> 00:34:49,511 And there's a reason for it. 555 00:34:49,611 --> 00:34:53,031 It's because they are looking for a note that isn't actually there, 556 00:34:53,510 --> 00:34:56,054 but which lies somewhere between the two. 557 00:34:56,554 --> 00:34:58,307 This is called a quarter tone. 558 00:34:59,057 --> 00:35:03,604 The quarter tone comes to us from Africa, which is, after all, the cradle of jazz 559 00:35:04,163 --> 00:35:06,832 and where quarter tones are everyday stuff. 560 00:35:06,932 --> 00:35:08,726 Now, ladies and gentlemen, 561 00:35:08,826 --> 00:35:11,370 we gonna take a little trip through the jungles this time, 562 00:35:11,862 --> 00:35:13,572 and we want y'all to travel with us. 563 00:35:14,174 --> 00:35:16,634 That tiger's running so fast. 564 00:35:16,728 --> 00:35:20,273 Gonna take a few choruses to catch him, so I want y'all to count with me. 565 00:35:20,363 --> 00:35:21,364 Yes, sir. 566 00:35:21,458 --> 00:35:24,212 Because this son-of-a-trumpet is gonna get away from you this time. 567 00:35:24,312 --> 00:35:26,272 Lay it out there, boys. I'm ready. 568 00:35:31,114 --> 00:35:34,576 {\an8}At this time in his career, Louis was having problems with managers, 569 00:35:34,676 --> 00:35:37,471 {\an8}and, inevitably, the gangsters took a hand in his affairs. 570 00:35:39,748 --> 00:35:41,750 There were certain interests in New York 571 00:35:41,850 --> 00:35:43,644 who thought the trumpet king belonged there. 572 00:35:46,206 --> 00:35:51,794 The gangster which was the toughest man in Chicago at that time, Frankie Foster, 573 00:35:51,888 --> 00:35:54,140 he said, "You know you're going to New York tomorrow?" 574 00:35:54,230 --> 00:35:56,649 I told him, "I didn't know nothing about that. 575 00:35:56,736 --> 00:35:58,237 Nobody told me nothing about it." 576 00:35:58,323 --> 00:36:00,242 I said, "Excuse me a minute. I'm going back on the stand." 577 00:36:00,335 --> 00:36:01,962 He said, "You're going to New York tomorrow." 578 00:36:02,062 --> 00:36:03,730 That's when he pulled that .45. 579 00:36:05,165 --> 00:36:08,001 I said, "Well, maybe I am going to New York." 580 00:36:10,772 --> 00:36:13,733 The whole business end of music at that time 581 00:36:13,827 --> 00:36:15,745 was controlled by white people. 582 00:36:15,835 --> 00:36:17,002 They were not all crooks. 583 00:36:17,089 --> 00:36:18,799 They were not all manipulating Black people, 584 00:36:18,885 --> 00:36:20,804 but quite a few of them were. 585 00:36:20,889 --> 00:36:23,183 It was very difficult for a Black musician 586 00:36:23,267 --> 00:36:26,436 not to be very bitter about the entire system at that time. 587 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,106 But Louis was one of those few, rare people 588 00:36:29,189 --> 00:36:31,275 that never gave the impression of being bitter, 589 00:36:31,367 --> 00:36:32,952 whether it was under the surface or not. 590 00:36:33,052 --> 00:36:37,015 Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. I'm Mr Armstrong. 591 00:36:37,756 --> 00:36:41,051 And we're gonna swing one of the good old good ones for you. 592 00:36:41,151 --> 00:36:44,029 Beautiful number, "I Cover the Waterfront." 593 00:36:44,129 --> 00:36:46,464 "I Cover the Waterfront," I like it. 594 00:36:48,625 --> 00:36:49,626 One, two. 595 00:37:16,153 --> 00:37:19,531 In 1932, first time I went to Europe. 596 00:37:20,599 --> 00:37:22,601 We used to travel by boats. 597 00:37:22,701 --> 00:37:24,995 Johnny Collins was my manager then. 598 00:37:25,479 --> 00:37:27,648 Didn't they give you the name of Satchmo over here? 599 00:37:27,748 --> 00:37:29,416 Yeah. Given by Fuzzy Brooks. 600 00:37:29,917 --> 00:37:32,836 He was the editor of the Melody Maker at that time. 601 00:37:33,613 --> 00:37:37,241 When I arrived in Plymouth, England, on the ship, 602 00:37:37,341 --> 00:37:39,718 and then somebody's going up there, "Hello, Satchmo." 603 00:37:40,235 --> 00:37:43,864 When I went all through Europe and everything with different cats, 604 00:37:43,958 --> 00:37:46,419 you know, trying to be managing things, 605 00:37:46,509 --> 00:37:48,928 I said, "These are the people I don't want to be bothered with. 606 00:37:49,015 --> 00:37:51,518 They're doing everything but protecting their trumpet." 607 00:37:51,604 --> 00:37:53,272 See, I had a manager who would... 608 00:37:53,357 --> 00:37:55,775 who would grab all the money out the box office. 609 00:37:55,859 --> 00:37:57,653 You know, that frantic stuff, you know. 610 00:37:57,737 --> 00:37:59,614 I say, "Well, that ain't what I wanna do." 611 00:37:59,698 --> 00:38:02,868 {\an8}Around about that time that Louis Armstrong found out 612 00:38:02,951 --> 00:38:08,998 {\an8}that his managing director, Mr Collins, was making £20,000 a week for him, 613 00:38:09,082 --> 00:38:13,253 and Louis was getting, say, about £100 a week. 614 00:38:13,336 --> 00:38:16,130 And he asked for more money, 615 00:38:16,214 --> 00:38:20,342 and Mr Collins, he used some beautiful adjectives. 616 00:38:20,434 --> 00:38:23,896 I said, "Listen, cocksucker, you might be my manager 617 00:38:23,996 --> 00:38:25,831 and you might be the biggest shit, 618 00:38:26,282 --> 00:38:29,118 and book me in the biggest places in the world, 619 00:38:29,212 --> 00:38:32,215 but when I get out on that fucking stage with that horn and get in trouble, 620 00:38:32,305 --> 00:38:33,473 you can't save me." 621 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,770 He said, "Take that nigger off the boat." 622 00:38:35,864 --> 00:38:38,241 Got to brawling, goddamn it. 623 00:38:38,341 --> 00:38:39,676 Shit. 624 00:38:41,530 --> 00:38:43,532 They gonna have this shit under control. 625 00:38:44,259 --> 00:38:46,135 And there's a big bottle of wine. 626 00:38:46,229 --> 00:38:47,772 All I had to do was take it like that. 627 00:38:47,869 --> 00:38:50,204 And the bald-headed motherfucker had his head down. 628 00:38:50,304 --> 00:38:54,641 And said, "I gotta just tap it like a pansy and kill the motherfucker." 629 00:38:55,352 --> 00:38:57,104 See, but the first thing I thought, 630 00:38:57,198 --> 00:38:59,117 all of them Black cocksuckers in Harlem who'd say, 631 00:38:59,206 --> 00:39:01,417 "I knew he would blow his top someday." 632 00:39:01,504 --> 00:39:03,840 I don't know why… "Fuck it. I got this shit." 633 00:39:03,934 --> 00:39:05,936 "Go on and eat your meal, man." 634 00:39:06,036 --> 00:39:08,205 Not that I hadn't been called a nigger before. 635 00:39:08,657 --> 00:39:10,534 He fired Collins. He got rid of him. 636 00:39:10,628 --> 00:39:12,130 {\an8}But Collins had a contract on him. 637 00:39:12,219 --> 00:39:15,181 {\an8}So, Louis remembered that he had worked for Joe Glaser, 638 00:39:15,268 --> 00:39:18,897 {\an8}and that Joe Glaser was tied in with some pretty rough boys around Chicago. 639 00:39:18,983 --> 00:39:23,070 So Louis got in touch with Joe, and he told Joe, he said, 640 00:39:23,155 --> 00:39:25,699 "I'm having a lot of trouble with this guy managing me." 641 00:39:25,783 --> 00:39:26,951 He said, "I'm kind of scared." 642 00:39:27,043 --> 00:39:29,170 He said, "I don't know what he's gonna try to do to me." 643 00:39:29,270 --> 00:39:32,190 He says, "But I want you for my manager." 644 00:39:34,567 --> 00:39:37,778 The toughest guy in the honky-tonk that runs the gambling, 645 00:39:37,878 --> 00:39:40,005 he knew I was getting ready to come up north, 646 00:39:40,490 --> 00:39:42,533 and this is the pep talk he gave me. 647 00:39:42,633 --> 00:39:46,637 He said, "Look here, son. I like the way you blow that quail." 648 00:39:47,197 --> 00:39:48,239 Talking about my cornet. 649 00:39:48,339 --> 00:39:50,341 I knew what he was talking about. I said, "Yeah." 650 00:39:50,441 --> 00:39:52,818 He said, "Now, you go up north 651 00:39:53,661 --> 00:39:59,250 and always have a white man behind you to say, 'That's my nigger.'" 652 00:39:59,350 --> 00:40:01,435 And that's the way he put it to me. 653 00:40:01,535 --> 00:40:03,578 Now, you can figure that out yourself. 654 00:40:04,404 --> 00:40:05,656 That was the talk. 655 00:40:06,156 --> 00:40:09,243 And Joe Glaser came right in the scene. 656 00:40:09,885 --> 00:40:11,637 - What did the... - We were just like that. 657 00:40:11,731 --> 00:40:16,986 Because he knew I wanted to blow my horn, and he saw to that. 658 00:40:17,076 --> 00:40:18,369 I said, "This is my man." 659 00:40:18,456 --> 00:40:20,542 I said, "You tend to business, Daddy Glaser. 660 00:40:20,635 --> 00:40:22,804 And I'll blow the horn. And that's where it is." 661 00:40:22,904 --> 00:40:25,240 And it's been over twenty-some years 662 00:40:25,801 --> 00:40:27,970 and we ain't even signed a contract. 663 00:40:29,346 --> 00:40:30,722 Joe Glaser's a nigga. 664 00:40:31,657 --> 00:40:33,784 Joe Glaser loves Negroes. 665 00:40:33,878 --> 00:40:35,380 He was raised with niggas. 666 00:40:35,470 --> 00:40:38,640 - He went to school with them. - That's right. That's right. 667 00:40:38,727 --> 00:40:42,481 You know, I always felt there was a weird relationship 668 00:40:42,567 --> 00:40:44,776 between Joe Glaser and Louis. 669 00:40:44,861 --> 00:40:47,154 And I felt Louis was exploited. 670 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,992 Louis believes that he never would've made it without Joe Glaser. 671 00:40:50,076 --> 00:40:51,327 I think he wouldn't have. 672 00:40:51,411 --> 00:40:54,038 - That's possible? - Quite possible. 673 00:40:54,122 --> 00:40:57,083 You got to have good management. I don't care how great you are. 674 00:40:57,166 --> 00:41:01,754 Good management goes hand in hand with success and talent. 675 00:41:01,837 --> 00:41:04,047 He never wanted anything to do with business, right? 676 00:41:04,139 --> 00:41:06,600 He never even hired the guys in his band. 677 00:41:06,700 --> 00:41:09,203 He just wanted to concentrate on that horn. 678 00:41:23,750 --> 00:41:25,669 {\an8}Glaser... On the strength of being with Louis... 679 00:41:25,763 --> 00:41:27,182 {\an8}Louis used to tell us stories 680 00:41:27,272 --> 00:41:29,857 {\an8}about they used to ride the bus down South with Glaser, 681 00:41:29,945 --> 00:41:32,656 and Glaser didn't... None of them hardly had enough to eat with. 682 00:41:32,750 --> 00:41:36,128 But on the strength of that, Louis started getting real popular. 683 00:41:36,228 --> 00:41:39,105 Glaser started getting good PR for Louis. 684 00:41:42,436 --> 00:41:47,316 {\an8}By 1935, there were probably some who hadn't heard of Louis Armstrong, 685 00:41:47,410 --> 00:41:50,121 {\an8}and perhaps even those few were erased that year 686 00:41:50,218 --> 00:41:52,720 when he recorded "La Cucaracha," 687 00:41:52,820 --> 00:41:55,657 "Red Sails in the Sunset," "On Treasure Island." 688 00:41:57,117 --> 00:41:58,702 {\an8}In the summer of 1936, 689 00:41:58,796 --> 00:42:01,341 {\an8}he said to me, "We're going on a tour of one-night stands. 690 00:42:01,431 --> 00:42:05,143 {\an8}Why don't you ride along in the bus so you can see what it's like?" 691 00:42:05,231 --> 00:42:08,859 It was a very exhausting trip for musicians in those days. 692 00:42:08,944 --> 00:42:11,279 There were no air-conditioned buses at that time. 693 00:42:11,364 --> 00:42:13,157 Now, we've traveled 800 miles. 694 00:42:13,242 --> 00:42:15,702 You know, you get up, you can't hardly stand up. 695 00:42:15,786 --> 00:42:19,039 You'd think he would take it easy the first few sets or something like that. 696 00:42:19,123 --> 00:42:23,044 No, you'd get in there and that first number, boy. 697 00:42:23,127 --> 00:42:24,462 Pow, pow, pow. 698 00:42:24,554 --> 00:42:26,931 There was no letup. He was there to entertain the people. 699 00:42:27,031 --> 00:42:29,242 And believe me, that's what he believed in. 700 00:42:29,691 --> 00:42:33,028 No other leader I know would've put up with what he had to go through. 701 00:42:33,122 --> 00:42:36,125 Louis became attached to laxatives. 702 00:42:36,222 --> 00:42:38,558 When you travelled on the band bus with him, 703 00:42:38,658 --> 00:42:42,245 and you didn't know too much about laxatives, 704 00:42:42,830 --> 00:42:46,917 he would find a way for you to imbibe some of it. 705 00:42:47,017 --> 00:42:51,355 When I first got to know him, it was Pluto Water. 706 00:42:51,455 --> 00:42:56,002 But then come Swiss Kriss, which he really got to like. 707 00:42:56,827 --> 00:42:59,746 Enjoy the fun of eager living. 708 00:43:00,230 --> 00:43:05,402 That radiant, refreshed feeling that comes from everyday regularity. 709 00:43:05,502 --> 00:43:11,717 Don't think for once that Swiss Kriss wasn't in the rudimentals of my life. 710 00:43:14,404 --> 00:43:16,072 But I always did believe in herbs. 711 00:43:16,166 --> 00:43:18,251 - My mother always... - Believed in? 712 00:43:18,341 --> 00:43:19,342 - Herbs. - Herbs. 713 00:43:19,429 --> 00:43:22,182 How do you say it? "Herbs"? "Erbs"? 714 00:43:22,267 --> 00:43:24,144 No, I say, "Hoibs." 715 00:43:24,228 --> 00:43:25,688 Well. Okay. 716 00:43:25,772 --> 00:43:26,857 - Well, I'll say "herbs." - Herbs. 717 00:43:26,940 --> 00:43:28,775 - You know what I'm talking about. - Herbs. Right. 718 00:43:28,859 --> 00:43:30,777 - They make you trot. - Pardon? 719 00:43:30,869 --> 00:43:32,245 Anyway. 720 00:43:32,345 --> 00:43:35,306 Have some and just leave it all behind you, daddy. 721 00:43:36,933 --> 00:43:39,603 He believed that the laxatives 722 00:43:39,703 --> 00:43:43,540 were of primary, significance to your health. 723 00:43:44,266 --> 00:43:45,726 His doctor travelled with him. 724 00:43:45,820 --> 00:43:49,157 Dr Schiff told us, "Don't try to emulate this guy at home 725 00:43:49,247 --> 00:43:52,876 because you'd die, probably tomorrow." 726 00:43:52,963 --> 00:43:56,967 Louis was perhaps the strongest guy I ever worked around 727 00:43:57,053 --> 00:44:00,805 because he didn't try to live carefully or anything like this. 728 00:44:00,898 --> 00:44:03,984 He lived the way he wanted to live, and to heck with it. 729 00:44:04,084 --> 00:44:05,502 That's how he lived, you know. 730 00:44:09,759 --> 00:44:11,427 At five o'clock in the morning, 731 00:44:11,527 --> 00:44:13,403 Louis Armstrong had to be rushed to the hospital. 732 00:44:15,180 --> 00:44:19,726 Louis had a case history of a bad heart for a long time. 733 00:44:19,826 --> 00:44:22,120 We did a thing over in Spoleto, Italy, 734 00:44:23,121 --> 00:44:25,666 and he had a pretty bad heart attack over there. 735 00:44:26,583 --> 00:44:28,794 In Spoleto, Italy, 736 00:44:29,361 --> 00:44:32,823 they sent to Rome to get this special nurse in. 737 00:44:32,923 --> 00:44:34,132 She was here fast. 738 00:44:34,700 --> 00:44:36,577 Oh, yeah. She was good-looking too. 739 00:44:36,677 --> 00:44:39,263 Well, I ain't went with that. I'm trying to get well now. 740 00:44:40,413 --> 00:44:43,333 When she said, "Uh-huh, Satchmo, eh?" 741 00:44:43,433 --> 00:44:46,478 - She come with this thermometer, you know? - Uh-huh. 742 00:44:47,038 --> 00:44:48,706 I said, "What you gonna do with that?" 743 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,051 She said… 744 00:44:50,141 --> 00:44:51,434 And this thermometer… 745 00:44:51,529 --> 00:44:52,822 I said, "Okay. Ah." 746 00:44:52,922 --> 00:44:54,007 "Ah, what?" 747 00:44:55,404 --> 00:44:57,739 Like, "Y'all trying to kill me." 748 00:44:58,757 --> 00:45:01,552 {\an8}Now here is one of the miracles of show business, 749 00:45:01,646 --> 00:45:06,442 {\an8}because when Louis Armstrong was with us in Spoleto, Italy, 750 00:45:06,532 --> 00:45:09,118 certainly Bob Precht and I never thought to see him alive again 751 00:45:09,212 --> 00:45:12,424 because, as you know, he was desperately sick over there. 752 00:45:12,524 --> 00:45:17,321 On the verge of dying, recovered and is now back playing his horn. 753 00:45:17,801 --> 00:45:22,639 {\an8}♪ Nah, I ain't gonna give nobody None of my jelly roll 754 00:45:24,933 --> 00:45:28,562 ♪ Give you none of it To save your soul 755 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:44,870 ♪ Ain't gonna give nobody None of my jelly roll, jelly roll ♪ 756 00:45:47,915 --> 00:45:51,001 You see, the other day I met a man from Zanzibar 757 00:45:52,110 --> 00:45:55,989 who was telling me quite a lot about racial prejudice. 758 00:45:56,089 --> 00:45:58,383 - Where? - In East Africa. 759 00:45:58,868 --> 00:46:00,828 What, Africa? You get it all over the world. 760 00:46:00,928 --> 00:46:02,721 Right here, you get prejudice. Are you kidding? 761 00:46:03,906 --> 00:46:05,908 - They were... - All over the world. 762 00:46:06,002 --> 00:46:07,712 - Not only in Africa. - Many places. 763 00:46:07,801 --> 00:46:09,762 - Right here, you get prejudice. - Here? 764 00:46:09,857 --> 00:46:11,525 Yeah, everywhere. 765 00:46:11,625 --> 00:46:14,962 - How is it here? - Well, essence of it all over. 766 00:46:15,626 --> 00:46:17,753 Have you any examples of it here? 767 00:46:17,847 --> 00:46:19,933 Well, you can see a whole lot of example... 768 00:46:20,030 --> 00:46:22,282 I can go out there right now, within an hour's time 769 00:46:22,382 --> 00:46:25,677 and see five situations where there's race prejudice. 770 00:46:26,845 --> 00:46:29,014 The discrimination was unbelievable. 771 00:46:29,108 --> 00:46:32,070 I think you had to be part of it, 772 00:46:32,159 --> 00:46:33,661 or to be very close to it, 773 00:46:33,748 --> 00:46:37,335 to get any idea of what it was like to be Black in those days. 774 00:46:37,421 --> 00:46:39,173 It seemed, on the surface, 775 00:46:39,257 --> 00:46:43,719 that a lot of Black musicians and Black people were accepting it 776 00:46:43,812 --> 00:46:46,397 or were trying to live with it as best they could. 777 00:46:46,497 --> 00:46:50,668 But the resentment, you know, understandably, was tremendous. 778 00:46:51,127 --> 00:46:53,547 And the conditions for living... 779 00:46:53,647 --> 00:46:57,025 I mean, just for finding a place to stay overnight, you know, 780 00:46:57,585 --> 00:46:59,712 finding a place to go get something to eat... 781 00:46:59,806 --> 00:47:03,100 Everything presented its difficulties because everything was segregated. 782 00:47:03,190 --> 00:47:05,025 And I'm talking about even in New York. 783 00:47:05,113 --> 00:47:09,158 {\an8}But it was tragic, what you had to go with this discrimination. 784 00:47:09,243 --> 00:47:10,786 {\an8}And you had to be tough. 785 00:47:10,879 --> 00:47:13,298 {\an8}'Cause discrimination, in a sneaky sort of way, 786 00:47:13,398 --> 00:47:17,194 killed a whole lot of musicians because they couldn't understand the code. 787 00:47:19,156 --> 00:47:23,869 {\an8}"Do you know I played 99 million hotels I couldn't stay at? 788 00:47:23,969 --> 00:47:27,347 When I was coming along, a Black man had hell. 789 00:47:28,056 --> 00:47:32,895 On the road, he couldn't find no place to eat, sleep, or use the toilet. 790 00:47:33,378 --> 00:47:37,174 Service station cats see a bus of coloured bandsmen drive up, 791 00:47:37,274 --> 00:47:39,651 and they would sprint to lock their restroom doors. 792 00:47:40,837 --> 00:47:42,797 One time in Dallas, Texas, 793 00:47:42,891 --> 00:47:46,603 some ofay stops me as I enter this hotel where I'm blowing the show... 794 00:47:46,699 --> 00:47:49,203 me in a goddamn tuxedo, now... 795 00:47:49,303 --> 00:47:52,348 and tells me I gotta come around to the back door." 796 00:47:54,976 --> 00:47:57,395 In Memphis, at the bus station, 797 00:47:57,489 --> 00:48:00,324 they claimed that the bus needed some work done on it 798 00:48:00,414 --> 00:48:02,500 and they were gonna take it back to have it overhauled. 799 00:48:02,587 --> 00:48:06,049 At that particular time, all the guys in Louis's band were young 800 00:48:06,134 --> 00:48:08,929 and just about as obstinate a bunch of people 801 00:48:09,014 --> 00:48:11,641 as you ever met in your life if they thought they were right. 802 00:48:11,725 --> 00:48:13,727 When nobody would give up the bus, 803 00:48:13,810 --> 00:48:17,940 then they sent for the police and arrested us for inciting a riot. 804 00:48:18,023 --> 00:48:20,776 With the intention of burning up all of our baggage and everything, 805 00:48:20,859 --> 00:48:22,277 luggage and everything, 806 00:48:22,361 --> 00:48:24,154 and putting us in the hoosegow, which they did. 807 00:48:24,238 --> 00:48:26,073 They arrested us all. 808 00:48:26,165 --> 00:48:29,293 {\an8}He was playing in Los Angeles one time. I don't remember where. 809 00:48:29,393 --> 00:48:33,605 {\an8}And I, along with some other friends, drove out to hear him play. 810 00:48:34,057 --> 00:48:37,268 And we got to this place, we were put... given a table, 811 00:48:37,362 --> 00:48:38,738 and Louis saw me. 812 00:48:38,828 --> 00:48:40,663 He was in the middle of a radio broadcast. 813 00:48:40,750 --> 00:48:42,794 And then the broadcast was over, 814 00:48:42,888 --> 00:48:44,765 and he disappeared in back. 815 00:48:44,865 --> 00:48:45,991 And I waited. 816 00:48:46,486 --> 00:48:48,988 I thought he'd come over and have a drink, 817 00:48:49,082 --> 00:48:51,084 or a Coca-Cola or a cup of coffee or something. 818 00:48:51,174 --> 00:48:53,718 And he never showed up. I waited about ten minutes. 819 00:48:53,805 --> 00:48:56,391 And finally, I thought, "Well, what's wrong?" I went backstage. 820 00:48:56,477 --> 00:48:58,771 He was back there with his little typewriter. 821 00:48:58,856 --> 00:49:00,899 He was always writing these marvellous letters he wrote. 822 00:49:00,983 --> 00:49:03,610 And I said, "Hi, Pops." He said, "Hey, Artie. How you been?" 823 00:49:03,694 --> 00:49:06,238 I said, "I thought I understood you to indicate 824 00:49:06,322 --> 00:49:07,739 that you'd come over to the table." 825 00:49:07,823 --> 00:49:09,950 He looked at me. He said, "Man, I can't come to your table." 826 00:49:10,042 --> 00:49:12,545 And I said, "Why?" He said, "Oh, they don't allow me to sit... 827 00:49:12,645 --> 00:49:14,689 Well, I can't sit at the tables out there." 828 00:49:15,222 --> 00:49:17,224 Well, I looked at him in total astonishment. 829 00:49:17,324 --> 00:49:21,162 My first reaction was, "Well, why the hell are you playing these places?" 830 00:49:21,262 --> 00:49:24,724 My next reaction was the practical one of, you play where you gotta play. 831 00:49:25,190 --> 00:49:28,527 And Louis was not in a what we now call civil rights fight. 832 00:49:28,621 --> 00:49:32,709 Louis was in a... in an individual fight to survive. 833 00:49:32,806 --> 00:49:36,351 I guess his own inner dignity was able to make him prevail 834 00:49:36,451 --> 00:49:39,329 over all these awful conditions he must have worked with. 835 00:49:40,314 --> 00:49:42,816 "As time went on and I made a reputation, 836 00:49:43,466 --> 00:49:45,135 I had to put it in my contracts 837 00:49:45,235 --> 00:49:48,071 that I would not play no place I couldn't stay at. 838 00:49:48,555 --> 00:49:54,019 I was the first Negro in the business to crack them big, white hotels. 839 00:49:54,119 --> 00:49:56,663 Oh, yeah. I pioneered, Pops." 840 00:50:02,644 --> 00:50:05,522 {\an8}People got tired of that situation, 841 00:50:05,622 --> 00:50:10,002 {\an8}you know, that... the separate this and the separate that. 842 00:50:10,102 --> 00:50:13,105 {\an8}If a man is able and capable enough 843 00:50:13,872 --> 00:50:19,002 {\an8}and could put the things together, what a leader wants, he's... 844 00:50:19,102 --> 00:50:21,396 {\an8}and he wants to hire 'em, he'd hire 'em. 845 00:50:25,125 --> 00:50:29,213 ♪ Old rockin' chair's got me 846 00:50:29,307 --> 00:50:31,559 ♪ Old rockin' chair got you, father 847 00:50:31,649 --> 00:50:34,068 {\an8}What a marvellous, democratic thing music is. 848 00:50:34,155 --> 00:50:36,199 {\an8}That's right. We went everywhere together. 849 00:50:36,284 --> 00:50:39,663 {\an8}And we never had a hard word or nothing. 850 00:50:39,747 --> 00:50:41,874 We didn't worry about, you know, colour. 851 00:50:41,958 --> 00:50:43,919 ♪ …gin, son 852 00:50:44,003 --> 00:50:47,382 ♪ You know you don't drink gin, father 853 00:50:47,466 --> 00:50:50,302 I mean, in the early days, we did this. 854 00:50:50,394 --> 00:50:52,145 When those things wasn't happening, 855 00:50:52,245 --> 00:50:55,832 Jack and I was busting those down barriers. 856 00:50:56,390 --> 00:50:59,351 Hitting the South there, and just going all over. 857 00:51:00,494 --> 00:51:02,663 Some guy asked me, 858 00:51:02,763 --> 00:51:04,765 he said, "Man, you're gonna take Jack Teagarden?" 859 00:51:04,865 --> 00:51:07,617 I said "Now, who am I to tell a white man he can't go down South?" 860 00:51:09,152 --> 00:51:12,614 And it's all through New Orleans, Texas… 861 00:51:14,132 --> 00:51:16,343 I guess, more than all of the laws, 862 00:51:16,437 --> 00:51:21,066 music has had more to do with better race relations through the years. 863 00:51:21,163 --> 00:51:23,124 - Hasn't it, Pops? - It's done a lot. 864 00:51:23,224 --> 00:51:26,519 You remember that white boy, he's a sailor or something, 865 00:51:27,004 --> 00:51:29,798 On one of these battleships at Pearl Harbour? 866 00:51:30,274 --> 00:51:31,859 And he caught my show. 867 00:51:31,953 --> 00:51:35,582 And come to find out, he has damn near every record I made 868 00:51:35,671 --> 00:51:38,549 from childhood, even his parents. 869 00:51:38,644 --> 00:51:41,856 But still and all, he expressed himself. 870 00:51:41,956 --> 00:51:45,501 He come up, and he shook my hand after the whole show was over, didn't he? 871 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:50,211 And he said, "You know, I don't like Negroes." 872 00:51:50,311 --> 00:51:53,522 Right to my fucking face, that motherfucker told me. 873 00:51:53,622 --> 00:51:57,500 And so I said, "Well, I admire your goddamn sincerity." 874 00:51:58,303 --> 00:52:00,054 He said, "I don't like Negroes, 875 00:52:00,148 --> 00:52:02,317 but you one son of a bitch I'm crazy about, baby." 876 00:52:02,407 --> 00:52:03,408 Didn't he? 877 00:52:03,495 --> 00:52:06,081 There, now, you take the majority of white people. 878 00:52:06,175 --> 00:52:09,803 There's two-thirds of them don't like niggers. 879 00:52:09,903 --> 00:52:15,283 But they always got one nigger that they just crazy about, goddamn it. 880 00:52:17,054 --> 00:52:18,055 Ain't that a bitch? 881 00:52:23,536 --> 00:52:25,663 {\an8}Pops, he faced a lot of challenges, 882 00:52:25,757 --> 00:52:28,634 {\an8}and he always faced them with style 883 00:52:28,731 --> 00:52:32,777 {\an8}and maintained his sanity and his joy and his embrace of life. 884 00:52:32,877 --> 00:52:36,839 And it was not a simpleminded happiness. It was a transcendent joy. 885 00:52:40,494 --> 00:52:44,331 He had a blessing inside of him that he was acutely aware of. 886 00:52:46,124 --> 00:52:50,212 I remember when I was a neighbour of Louis Armstrong. 887 00:52:50,730 --> 00:52:54,442 {\an8}We lived within one block of one another 888 00:52:54,542 --> 00:52:58,087 {\an8}in Corona, Queens, New York, for 15 years. 889 00:52:58,187 --> 00:53:00,690 I went over to his house to wish him a happy birthday… 890 00:53:02,958 --> 00:53:04,960 and to bring him a little present. 891 00:53:05,060 --> 00:53:11,567 And I wound up getting a present myself and also a present for my wife, Lorraine. 892 00:53:12,626 --> 00:53:14,378 If you had a hard-luck story 893 00:53:14,472 --> 00:53:17,183 and you needed something, and you came to Louis, you got it. 894 00:53:17,273 --> 00:53:18,399 This is a throwback. 895 00:53:18,487 --> 00:53:21,740 It's been instilled in him in the old days of... in New Orleans, 896 00:53:21,826 --> 00:53:23,159 when Louis was a youth coming up. 897 00:53:23,252 --> 00:53:25,045 It was a way of life down there. 898 00:53:25,145 --> 00:53:26,479 They were all poor, 899 00:53:26,957 --> 00:53:29,209 and the one that had a little more than the other 900 00:53:29,769 --> 00:53:32,730 saw to it that the one that has less had a little bit. 901 00:53:32,824 --> 00:53:34,200 So he never outgrew it. 902 00:53:34,290 --> 00:53:36,125 He liked to get to know the people. 903 00:53:36,220 --> 00:53:38,764 That's where it was at with Louis, and I think everyone knows that. 904 00:53:38,864 --> 00:53:41,825 You can see Louis... see that in all the years 905 00:53:42,389 --> 00:53:44,433 and with all of the success that Louis has had, 906 00:53:45,142 --> 00:53:48,520 Louis still remained the man in the street himself. 907 00:53:50,814 --> 00:53:53,859 Royal Theatre was in a poor Negro neighbourhood. 908 00:53:54,484 --> 00:53:56,570 Real poor people, I'm telling you. 909 00:53:57,171 --> 00:53:59,298 Until we arrived in town, 910 00:53:59,392 --> 00:54:02,937 it was actually colder... 911 00:54:03,027 --> 00:54:08,407 I'm telling you, it was colder than a well digger's... Well, you know the rest. 912 00:54:08,502 --> 00:54:14,383 And when I heard about those poor people who couldn't afford to buy hard coal, 913 00:54:14,483 --> 00:54:16,026 I bought it for them. 914 00:54:16,491 --> 00:54:20,661 I went to the coal yard, ordered a ton of coal, 915 00:54:20,761 --> 00:54:25,224 and had the company to deliver it to the lobby of the Royal Theatre. 916 00:54:25,950 --> 00:54:31,247 And had all the folks who needed coal to help themselves, 917 00:54:31,347 --> 00:54:33,307 which made them very happy. 918 00:54:33,407 --> 00:54:38,079 Of course, it all made me stick out my chest with pride. 919 00:54:39,379 --> 00:54:43,008 {\an8}To be in his presence, to see the power that he had... 920 00:54:43,101 --> 00:54:44,645 {\an8}See, you'd go in his dressing room, 921 00:54:44,734 --> 00:54:49,072 {\an8}he'd be sitting up, in his underwear, with a towel around his lap 922 00:54:49,159 --> 00:54:52,914 and one around his shoulders and had a white handkerchief on his head. 923 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,128 And he put that grease around his lips. 924 00:54:56,213 --> 00:54:58,465 Looked like a minstrel man, you know, with the white. 925 00:54:58,549 --> 00:55:01,134 And laughing. Natural, see, the way he is. 926 00:55:01,217 --> 00:55:05,931 And in the room, you'll see maybe two nuns, a streetwalker. 927 00:55:06,023 --> 00:55:09,193 You see maybe a guy that's come out of penitentiary. 928 00:55:09,293 --> 00:55:11,670 You see a rabbi. You see a priest. 929 00:55:12,254 --> 00:55:16,258 All of the different levels of society in a dressing room. 930 00:55:16,358 --> 00:55:18,110 And he's talking to all of 'em. 931 00:55:20,337 --> 00:55:21,797 I'd like you to meet my son. 932 00:55:21,891 --> 00:55:24,978 First time we see important-looking whites 933 00:55:25,075 --> 00:55:29,329 be so, like putty in the presence of a figure 934 00:55:29,429 --> 00:55:33,474 who had opened up the world of music to new heights, you know? 935 00:55:35,085 --> 00:55:36,962 Now you know I don't lie much 936 00:55:45,721 --> 00:55:49,933 ♪ Fellas she can't get The fellas she ain't met ♪ 937 00:55:53,538 --> 00:55:56,207 Louis, you had, obviously, a very eventful life. 938 00:55:56,301 --> 00:55:58,511 Ever since I've known you, they've been making a film on you. 939 00:55:58,601 --> 00:56:01,228 They make a whole lot of films now. You know? 940 00:56:01,315 --> 00:56:03,984 Well, now I hear they're finally gonna do a film on you. 941 00:56:04,078 --> 00:56:06,414 Yeah. Glad they can't come up to me and say, 942 00:56:06,514 --> 00:56:09,476 "You must be a movie star. I can tell by the film on your teeth." 943 00:56:12,181 --> 00:56:14,391 {\an8}"Hollywood fascinates me. 944 00:56:14,485 --> 00:56:17,322 {\an8}Everywhere I go, there's a warm greeting for me. 945 00:56:17,419 --> 00:56:22,632 {\an8}But you still have some small-minded prop men, carpenters, callboys. 946 00:56:22,732 --> 00:56:26,986 One of the moments that dragged me the most happened in 1952 947 00:56:27,554 --> 00:56:29,473 during the making of Glory Alley." 948 00:56:34,269 --> 00:56:39,107 ♪ Glory Alley, Glory Alley 949 00:56:39,900 --> 00:56:44,738 ♪ Hear that trumpet moan in Glory Alley 950 00:56:45,340 --> 00:56:48,092 And this ofay, he wasn't nothing but a callboy. 951 00:56:48,186 --> 00:56:53,233 He called, the extras and different things. 952 00:56:53,323 --> 00:56:55,033 Then he'll come to the stars' dressing room, 953 00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:56,996 let them know when they want them for the camera. 954 00:56:57,082 --> 00:56:59,459 And he was hanging around on the set all the time. 955 00:56:59,544 --> 00:57:00,795 - You know what I mean? - Yeah. 956 00:57:00,879 --> 00:57:02,756 So now, he'll come up, 957 00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:06,009 "Mr Gilbert Roland, Ms Caron," and everything. 958 00:57:06,093 --> 00:57:09,012 And then he'll come to my dressing room with a whole lot of bullshit. 959 00:57:09,096 --> 00:57:10,931 "Satchmo, you better come on out there, 960 00:57:11,015 --> 00:57:14,185 or they'll send in Harry James." 961 00:57:14,269 --> 00:57:15,979 I said, "Listen, you cocksucker. 962 00:57:16,063 --> 00:57:18,439 If they wanted Harry James, they'd have had him in front." 963 00:57:18,523 --> 00:57:21,234 I said, "The first place, he ain't gonna play what I played out there." 964 00:57:21,317 --> 00:57:23,194 He said, "Why?" I said, "'Cause he can't." 965 00:57:23,278 --> 00:57:25,947 Just had to be a nasty son of a bitch with him. 966 00:57:26,030 --> 00:57:30,034 And I said, "You take it... You tell MGM to shove that picture up their ass." 967 00:57:30,117 --> 00:57:31,410 Then he left me alone. 968 00:57:31,493 --> 00:57:33,537 I said, "I don't... I ain't a movie star nohow." 969 00:57:33,620 --> 00:57:36,290 I said, "Why you hand me that shit? 'Cause I'm coloured?" 970 00:57:36,373 --> 00:57:39,794 I didn't appreciate it. I'm just showing you what I go through for no reason. 971 00:57:39,877 --> 00:57:43,380 You take the smallest fucking peckerwood, 972 00:57:43,464 --> 00:57:45,924 hand you that shit, and the big bosses appreciate you. 973 00:57:46,007 --> 00:57:47,842 He made as many as 30 films. 974 00:57:47,934 --> 00:57:52,272 The Glenn Miller Story, the way he's cast in that is very positive. 975 00:57:52,372 --> 00:57:56,877 ♪ Yes, Basin Street is the street 976 00:57:58,437 --> 00:58:00,898 ♪ Where the folks really meet 977 00:58:01,565 --> 00:58:02,566 Who is he? 978 00:58:03,425 --> 00:58:05,969 Who? Louis Armstrong. 979 00:58:06,069 --> 00:58:11,450 A Song Was Born, what Louis does there is just performing. 980 00:58:12,925 --> 00:58:16,179 {\an8}♪ They took a reet jungle beat Brought it to Basin Street 981 00:58:16,279 --> 00:58:19,033 {\an8}♪ And that's how jazz was born 982 00:58:19,133 --> 00:58:22,136 In High Society, he is Louis Armstrong. 983 00:58:28,116 --> 00:58:30,869 Hello, Dolly! Of course, it's the last one. 984 00:58:30,969 --> 00:58:34,556 - Well, hello... Dolly - Look who's here. 985 00:58:35,307 --> 00:58:38,143 - This is Louis, Dolly - Hello, Louis. 986 00:58:38,744 --> 00:58:41,580 ♪ It's so nice to have you back 987 00:58:41,674 --> 00:58:43,343 ♪ Where you belong ♪ 988 00:58:43,432 --> 00:58:45,643 They didn't write a whole lot of parts, 989 00:58:45,730 --> 00:58:47,232 you know, character parts... 990 00:58:47,326 --> 00:58:51,830 They just let me be myself in pictures. That's what made it awful nice. 991 00:58:51,930 --> 00:58:56,059 We all can't be Reinhardts and things like that. 992 00:58:56,537 --> 00:58:58,163 So they just tell me, "Be yourself." 993 00:58:59,122 --> 00:59:02,459 All my days were happiness 'cause I'm born with nothing, 994 00:59:03,060 --> 00:59:04,645 come here with nothing. 995 00:59:04,739 --> 00:59:06,741 And I come through the world, 996 00:59:06,831 --> 00:59:10,876 whatever nothing I had, I enjoyed playing the music. 997 00:59:10,963 --> 00:59:14,216 And what little advancement or whatever it was, 998 00:59:14,301 --> 00:59:16,679 it was more than I had at all times. 999 00:59:16,764 --> 00:59:20,518 And right now, it's still more than I had. 1000 00:59:20,601 --> 00:59:23,647 And the fans are still happy with Satchmo. 1001 00:59:23,730 --> 00:59:27,944 And I wouldn't give a damn if they had ten trillion dollars. 1002 00:59:28,027 --> 00:59:32,448 They can't be no happier than Louis "Satchmo" Armstrong and Lucille. 1003 00:59:32,531 --> 00:59:38,078 We never want an estate where servants be falling all over each other. 1004 00:59:38,162 --> 00:59:41,875 They're working for coloured people. And then... We don't wanna go through that. 1005 00:59:41,958 --> 00:59:44,460 And I want to live the life that I come through 1006 00:59:44,552 --> 00:59:51,017 with what Mayann, my mother, taught me… enjoy the rudimentals. 1007 00:59:51,117 --> 00:59:52,368 To hell with the rest of it. 1008 00:59:58,515 --> 01:00:01,727 ♪ I'm confessin' that I love you 1009 01:00:04,897 --> 01:00:08,775 ♪ Tell me, do you love me too? 1010 01:00:11,111 --> 01:00:15,407 ♪ I'm confessin' that I need you 1011 01:00:16,408 --> 01:00:18,160 ♪ Honest, I do 1012 01:00:18,635 --> 01:00:22,431 ♪ Oh, baby, need you every moment 1013 01:00:22,525 --> 01:00:23,651 ♪ Oh, yeah? 1014 01:00:23,741 --> 01:00:25,618 Lucille, how did he propose? I mean... 1015 01:00:25,712 --> 01:00:27,507 - What did he say to you? - Well, actually... 1016 01:00:27,607 --> 01:00:31,319 - How long did you know him? - About two years. 1017 01:00:31,857 --> 01:00:33,567 - Two years? - Oh, yes. 1018 01:00:33,667 --> 01:00:35,961 Well, it wasn't love at first sight then, was it, Louis? 1019 01:00:36,061 --> 01:00:37,646 Plenty love going on then. 1020 01:00:39,365 --> 01:00:41,117 But not at first sight. I see. 1021 01:00:41,211 --> 01:00:43,254 Well, you know, I'm Louis's fourth wife. 1022 01:00:43,344 --> 01:00:44,386 - I see. - Uh-huh. 1023 01:00:44,481 --> 01:00:48,276 And he was separated from his third wife. 1024 01:00:48,376 --> 01:00:50,795 And so the... We couldn't marry. 1025 01:00:51,335 --> 01:00:53,587 And he kept saying, "Well, you just stick around, 1026 01:00:53,681 --> 01:00:55,474 you know, wait for Pops. 1027 01:00:55,564 --> 01:00:57,399 And I'll get a divorce." You know. 1028 01:00:57,486 --> 01:00:59,363 And he's taking care of... This woman's getting alimony. 1029 01:00:59,457 --> 01:01:01,668 - She's not about to give him up. - Yeah. 1030 01:01:01,768 --> 01:01:03,228 And I just laughed. 1031 01:01:04,599 --> 01:01:06,976 He just tells me, "Now, you just stay put, you know. 1032 01:01:07,070 --> 01:01:09,614 And one of these days, I'll… 1033 01:01:09,711 --> 01:01:11,714 She'll give me a divorce, and we'll marry." 1034 01:01:11,814 --> 01:01:15,067 - Yeah. - And I'm young. But how long do you wait? 1035 01:01:15,525 --> 01:01:18,486 So I was seen on the scene with the young boys, 1036 01:01:18,580 --> 01:01:19,958 and Louis got tired of that. 1037 01:01:20,047 --> 01:01:21,674 And he says, "Look, I can't hold you down. 1038 01:01:21,769 --> 01:01:22,979 I guess I better marry you." 1039 01:01:23,079 --> 01:01:24,664 - You right. - "I'll get the divorce." 1040 01:01:26,044 --> 01:01:29,506 ♪ Am I guessin' that you love me, babe 1041 01:01:29,606 --> 01:01:31,525 ♪ Oh, yeah 1042 01:01:32,985 --> 01:01:37,614 ♪ Dreaming dreams of you in vain, vain 1043 01:01:40,117 --> 01:01:44,413 ♪ I'm confessin' that I love you 1044 01:01:47,233 --> 01:01:48,609 Chops. 1045 01:01:48,709 --> 01:01:52,254 ♪ Over again 1046 01:01:58,218 --> 01:02:03,932 Well, what has been to you, the most encouraging things? 1047 01:02:04,516 --> 01:02:08,187 My fourth wife, she fixed a nice home, 1048 01:02:08,663 --> 01:02:12,458 not elaborate, just someplace where you settle down. 1049 01:02:12,558 --> 01:02:14,435 Your castle. 1050 01:02:14,535 --> 01:02:18,539 It's such a pleasure to go home. That's why I cancelled the road tour. 1051 01:02:22,058 --> 01:02:27,397 3456 107th Street. 1052 01:02:27,497 --> 01:02:29,750 - 107th? - Yeah. Street. 1053 01:02:30,317 --> 01:02:33,612 Corona, New York. The Queens. 1054 01:02:33,712 --> 01:02:37,299 It should be Long Island, but, New York for many. 1055 01:02:38,651 --> 01:02:40,403 {\an8}We would stay at my apartment, 1056 01:02:40,497 --> 01:02:44,876 {\an8}but my mother had to get out of her bedroom and sleep in my small room 1057 01:02:44,965 --> 01:02:46,634 so Louis and I could have the large bedroom 1058 01:02:46,729 --> 01:02:49,065 for the few days of... that we went home. 1059 01:02:49,165 --> 01:02:51,251 So I decided to buy a house. 1060 01:02:51,788 --> 01:02:54,166 And I told Louis, "Let's get a house." 1061 01:02:54,260 --> 01:02:56,971 And he said, "What do you want a house for? 1062 01:02:57,060 --> 01:03:00,313 We'll be travelling. I'll get a hotel room." 1063 01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:03,737 And I wasn't about to be cooped up in a hotel room. 1064 01:03:03,831 --> 01:03:07,418 And after being married to Louis for a few months, 1065 01:03:07,518 --> 01:03:13,023 I found that it wasn't very easy to argue with Louis. 1066 01:03:13,769 --> 01:03:15,479 If he made his mind up about something, 1067 01:03:15,573 --> 01:03:18,910 he was very, very positive that you couldn't change his mind. 1068 01:03:18,999 --> 01:03:21,252 And so he kept not wanting this house. 1069 01:03:21,346 --> 01:03:23,808 And I'm a very stubborn person myself. 1070 01:03:23,908 --> 01:03:26,953 And so I said, "This guy doesn't know what the house is all about." 1071 01:03:27,766 --> 01:03:30,060 I bought the house myself and didn't tell him. 1072 01:03:30,644 --> 01:03:33,355 I had had the house eight months before I told Louis. 1073 01:03:34,331 --> 01:03:36,333 Eight whole months. 1074 01:03:36,433 --> 01:03:40,020 Meanwhile, my mother's writing me about what's happening, 1075 01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:43,039 and they're planting flowers and this, that and the other. 1076 01:03:43,641 --> 01:03:46,602 So finally, I tell him, two weeks before we were to go back to New York. 1077 01:03:46,702 --> 01:03:49,621 And I told him, I said, "Pops, I got something to tell you." 1078 01:03:50,389 --> 01:03:52,516 So he said, "Well, what have you done now?" 1079 01:03:52,610 --> 01:03:53,945 I said, "I haven't done anything... 1080 01:03:54,034 --> 01:03:56,663 I don't think you're going to be unhappy about what I've done. 1081 01:03:56,750 --> 01:04:00,920 But I wanna... I have to tell you that we've moved." 1082 01:04:01,006 --> 01:04:03,300 And he said, "We've what?" He said, "We've moved?" 1083 01:04:03,384 --> 01:04:05,386 He said, "That's all right. You got a larger apartment?" 1084 01:04:05,478 --> 01:04:07,147 I said, "No, I bought a house." 1085 01:04:07,247 --> 01:04:11,418 So he looked at me like I was, you know, like I was a cow with seven horns. 1086 01:04:12,035 --> 01:04:15,539 Now he said, "How did you pay for it? You didn't ask me for any money." 1087 01:04:15,633 --> 01:04:19,137 I said, "You have to remember, I have been working for 13 years. 1088 01:04:19,226 --> 01:04:20,937 I have a little money saved up. 1089 01:04:21,024 --> 01:04:24,652 And so, when I approached you about a house and you were so down on it, 1090 01:04:24,738 --> 01:04:28,158 I didn't ask you. I just took my money, and I put the down payment on the house, 1091 01:04:28,243 --> 01:04:29,953 and I've been keeping the payments up." 1092 01:04:30,045 --> 01:04:31,546 I said, "Now that you know about the house, 1093 01:04:31,646 --> 01:04:33,397 you can take the payments over." 1094 01:04:34,441 --> 01:04:36,860 But I've never been able to move Louis from that place. 1095 01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,463 Once he got in that place, he loved it. 1096 01:04:58,917 --> 01:05:01,794 Mrs Armstrong, do you always go with Louis wherever he goes? 1097 01:05:01,888 --> 01:05:02,764 Yes, I do… 1098 01:05:02,854 --> 01:05:04,439 It's your job to look after him? 1099 01:05:04,525 --> 01:05:08,487 That's part of my marital vow to take care of the husband. 1100 01:05:08,573 --> 01:05:13,328 - Yes. - And while I... We travel a lot. 1101 01:05:13,412 --> 01:05:16,332 We try to maintain a home life wherever we go. 1102 01:05:16,416 --> 01:05:17,918 So we were constantly together. 1103 01:05:18,010 --> 01:05:21,889 There was... There wasn't that separation, 1104 01:05:21,989 --> 01:05:25,409 as most musicians and wives have. 1105 01:05:26,409 --> 01:05:27,661 But then, I was fortunate 1106 01:05:27,761 --> 01:05:30,138 for the simple reason that Louis wanted me with him. 1107 01:05:31,164 --> 01:05:34,084 And secondly, he could afford to keep me with him. 1108 01:05:34,184 --> 01:05:36,603 And the other chaps couldn't afford to take their families. 1109 01:05:37,372 --> 01:05:39,123 Did it get boring at any time, 1110 01:05:39,217 --> 01:05:42,303 - listening to Louis night after night? - You gotta be kidding. 1111 01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:44,569 - Really? - How could anyone be bored 1112 01:05:44,669 --> 01:05:46,087 with those beautiful notes? 1113 01:05:46,655 --> 01:05:50,450 Yeah, I had a audience with the pope. 1114 01:05:51,076 --> 01:05:52,995 You had an audience with the pope? 1115 01:05:54,272 --> 01:05:56,023 And I remember that morning, 1116 01:05:56,123 --> 01:05:59,042 there was 10,000 people there waiting just to see him. 1117 01:05:59,684 --> 01:06:01,853 And my wife, she's dressed for the occasion, 1118 01:06:01,953 --> 01:06:06,167 had on a outfit with a black veil. 1119 01:06:06,267 --> 01:06:07,977 And I'm sharp. 1120 01:06:09,052 --> 01:06:11,638 So he asked me, "Have you any children?" 1121 01:06:12,498 --> 01:06:16,085 I said, "Well, no, daddy. But we still wailing." 1122 01:06:16,185 --> 01:06:17,186 And... 1123 01:06:37,682 --> 01:06:39,809 Now, let's talk about pot. 1124 01:06:39,903 --> 01:06:41,988 Yeah. 1125 01:06:42,078 --> 01:06:44,414 I'm only sorry you couldn't be here with us longer. 1126 01:06:44,502 --> 01:06:45,793 I wish you could have gotten higher. 1127 01:06:45,887 --> 01:06:48,056 But why don't you go and say hello to the folks on the panel? 1128 01:06:48,156 --> 01:06:49,950 Well, I'm getting higher next time round. 1129 01:06:51,871 --> 01:06:55,666 Mary… wouna. 1130 01:06:55,766 --> 01:07:02,064 Honey, you sure was good and I enjoyed you very much. 1131 01:07:03,357 --> 01:07:06,693 {\an8}Marijuana is more of a medicine than dope. 1132 01:07:09,738 --> 01:07:12,908 {\an8}Why did he do it? Well, because it relaxes you. 1133 01:07:13,518 --> 01:07:15,978 {\an8}It does something to your hearing. 1134 01:07:16,078 --> 01:07:19,623 {\an8}And if you're a musician, it does something to your playing. 1135 01:07:23,394 --> 01:07:26,397 {\an8}"I have to go through the whole world with this horn, 1136 01:07:26,497 --> 01:07:27,957 {\an8}making millions happy, 1137 01:07:28,057 --> 01:07:32,937 {\an8}and at the same time ducking and dodging cops, dicks, so forth. 1138 01:07:33,830 --> 01:07:37,124 Why? 'Cause they say it's against the law. 1139 01:07:37,224 --> 01:07:40,477 I'm not so particular about having a permit to carry a gun. 1140 01:07:41,087 --> 01:07:45,174 All I want is a permit to carry that good shit." 1141 01:07:45,274 --> 01:07:48,777 On the West Coast, California, in 1931, 1142 01:07:49,295 --> 01:07:53,424 when I got busted, it was during our intermission. 1143 01:07:53,524 --> 01:07:57,278 Two big, healthy dicks... detectives, that is... 1144 01:07:57,378 --> 01:08:01,632 come from behind a car, man, and say to us, 1145 01:08:02,474 --> 01:08:04,685 "We'll take the roach, boys." 1146 01:08:04,779 --> 01:08:10,410 I spent nine days in the downtown Los Angeles city jail. 1147 01:08:10,499 --> 01:08:13,836 And when all of those prisoners looked up 1148 01:08:13,930 --> 01:08:20,270 and saw me walk in with this great big deputy sheriff, 1149 01:08:20,370 --> 01:08:24,790 they all en masse started, "Hey, Louis Armstrong!" 1150 01:08:25,336 --> 01:08:28,299 The judge gave me a suspended sentence, 1151 01:08:28,399 --> 01:08:33,404 and I went to work that night, wailed just like nothing happened. 1152 01:09:08,982 --> 01:09:10,108 {\an8}Ladies and gentlemen, 1153 01:09:10,792 --> 01:09:12,628 {\an8}Louis Armstrong has told me 1154 01:09:12,728 --> 01:09:17,024 {\an8}that his most honoured ambition is being fulfilled tonight 1155 01:09:17,124 --> 01:09:19,585 in playing with the New York Philharmonic. 1156 01:09:20,137 --> 01:09:23,389 I should say that it is rather we, 1157 01:09:23,483 --> 01:09:26,152 on the longer-haired side of the fence, 1158 01:09:26,249 --> 01:09:30,961 who are honoured in that when we play "The Saint Louis Blues", 1159 01:09:31,061 --> 01:09:35,023 we are only doing a blown-up imitation of what he does. 1160 01:09:35,575 --> 01:09:38,370 And what he does is real and true 1161 01:09:38,470 --> 01:09:41,765 and honest and simple, and even noble. 1162 01:09:49,481 --> 01:09:53,902 {\an8}I never shall forget the first time we went to Africa in 1956. 1163 01:09:57,781 --> 01:09:59,199 {\an8}"My God, darling. 1164 01:10:00,058 --> 01:10:03,270 {\an8}I had no idea I would be so thrillingly received 1165 01:10:03,370 --> 01:10:07,791 {\an8}by my brothers and sisters in my homeland, Africa." 1166 01:10:09,226 --> 01:10:13,647 This is, though, a tour to make friends and influence people. 1167 01:10:13,747 --> 01:10:16,750 Well, I guess that's the idea when they did it. 1168 01:10:16,850 --> 01:10:20,645 But all... We want to get out there and blow for them cats. They're all fans. 1169 01:10:22,790 --> 01:10:25,793 Yeah, we got off the plane and… 1170 01:10:25,893 --> 01:10:29,646 ♪ All for you Lord, for you, Louis 1171 01:10:39,323 --> 01:10:40,532 ♪ La la la ♪ 1172 01:10:44,227 --> 01:10:48,273 The attendance was so fantastic that there wasn't a place to hold it 1173 01:10:48,373 --> 01:10:51,043 except the polo grounds, which was just a big stadium. 1174 01:11:09,746 --> 01:11:12,373 And then one of the chiefs said to Louis, "Hello, Satchmo." 1175 01:11:12,467 --> 01:11:13,593 And Louis told me, he said, 1176 01:11:13,689 --> 01:11:15,943 "See that, Moms? They even got my records in the bush." 1177 01:11:16,043 --> 01:11:18,337 {\an8}You know, everybody knows Pops. 1178 01:11:27,764 --> 01:11:30,266 - I had a wonderful time. - I take it you did. 1179 01:11:30,366 --> 01:11:32,576 Yeah, they had about nine tribes down there. 1180 01:11:32,676 --> 01:11:36,012 That's... That come from miles away just to dance with us. 1181 01:11:36,688 --> 01:11:39,775 And in one of those tribes, they had a chick swinging there, 1182 01:11:39,869 --> 01:11:40,870 looked just like my mother. 1183 01:11:40,967 --> 01:11:43,594 Man, I made the cameraman call her over here 1184 01:11:43,694 --> 01:11:46,655 and let her put a couple of Wiggle Waggle Woos on there for me. 1185 01:11:53,413 --> 01:11:54,665 Here's a song we did 1186 01:11:54,759 --> 01:11:57,470 that was all about one of the big events of the year 1187 01:11:57,567 --> 01:11:58,818 in my hometown, 1188 01:11:58,918 --> 01:12:01,379 the Zulu Parade in Mardi Gras week. 1189 01:12:02,180 --> 01:12:07,060 But it wasn't until 1949, 23 years after I made this record, 1190 01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:11,331 that they elected Satchmo to be the king of the Zulus. 1191 01:12:18,730 --> 01:12:20,149 I got to New Orleans, 1192 01:12:20,243 --> 01:12:22,912 {\an8}and it was like everybody was crazy in that city. 1193 01:12:23,002 --> 01:12:24,336 {\an8}Everybody was packing the streets, 1194 01:12:24,423 --> 01:12:26,383 {\an8}and there were all kinds of racial paradoxes, 1195 01:12:26,468 --> 01:12:29,598 like the Zulus were prepared to present Louis that night 1196 01:12:29,683 --> 01:12:32,352 in a concert at Booker T. Washington Auditorium. 1197 01:12:32,444 --> 01:12:35,447 Armstrong's All Star Band has played 45 minutes 1198 01:12:35,547 --> 01:12:40,677 of New Orleans's own Dixieland music to an enthusiastic capacity crowd. 1199 01:12:41,294 --> 01:12:42,879 I went to the concert, and I saw 1200 01:12:42,973 --> 01:12:45,893 Black spectators seated on the left and the centre aisles, 1201 01:12:45,983 --> 01:12:47,860 while the whites were over on the right aisle. 1202 01:12:47,947 --> 01:12:50,450 But on the stage, I saw Louis and Jack Teagarden 1203 01:12:50,543 --> 01:12:51,878 with their arms around each other, 1204 01:12:51,978 --> 01:12:55,232 radiating interracial brotherhood, singing a duet. 1205 01:12:55,684 --> 01:12:58,145 And I saw white officials shaking hands with Louis on stage, 1206 01:12:58,239 --> 01:13:01,284 and congratulating him, and paying tribute to his talent. 1207 01:13:01,374 --> 01:13:02,875 I saw Louis bursting with pride 1208 01:13:02,963 --> 01:13:05,798 when the mayor of New Orleans gave him the keys to the city. 1209 01:13:05,884 --> 01:13:07,552 That was the week he made the cover of Time. 1210 01:13:07,637 --> 01:13:10,014 It was on every white newsstand in town. 1211 01:13:10,098 --> 01:13:12,100 {\an8}On behalf of the people of New Orleans, 1212 01:13:12,192 --> 01:13:15,362 {\an8}the city with a colourful past and a promising future, 1213 01:13:15,462 --> 01:13:17,506 we want to present you the key to the city. 1214 01:13:18,291 --> 01:13:19,959 To Louis Armstrong. 1215 01:13:20,053 --> 01:13:22,096 Thank you very much, Mayor. 1216 01:13:22,186 --> 01:13:24,939 This is really a treat. This is the thrill of my life. 1217 01:13:25,034 --> 01:13:27,202 But I also knew that there were hundreds of places 1218 01:13:27,302 --> 01:13:29,596 to which those keys would never admit him. 1219 01:13:33,347 --> 01:13:35,516 {\an8}When he was king, everybody was getting out. 1220 01:13:35,616 --> 01:13:40,830 {\an8}People that didn't get out on Carnival, they going out to see Louis Armstrong, 1221 01:13:40,930 --> 01:13:42,056 king of the Zulu. 1222 01:13:42,732 --> 01:13:44,275 And there was so many people. 1223 01:13:44,369 --> 01:13:46,371 Everything got held up, you know what I mean? 1224 01:13:46,461 --> 01:13:48,046 It was stopping everything, 1225 01:13:48,133 --> 01:13:50,177 and he just had to get off the float, you know. 1226 01:13:50,271 --> 01:13:52,731 'Cause sooner or later, man, he might have got hurt up there. 1227 01:13:52,831 --> 01:13:53,832 You understand me? 1228 01:13:55,202 --> 01:13:58,622 {\an8}Rex was the biggest parade of all the white parades. 1229 01:13:58,716 --> 01:14:01,177 {\an8}And by white, I mean it was what it was. It was segregated. 1230 01:14:01,267 --> 01:14:04,478 But Zulu was like the height of everything. 1231 01:14:04,573 --> 01:14:07,868 So, for Pops, he wanted to be the king of Zulu his entire life. 1232 01:14:07,968 --> 01:14:11,096 The king of Zulu would dress up in blackface. 1233 01:14:11,726 --> 01:14:12,978 That's what he did. 1234 01:14:13,078 --> 01:14:16,707 So Louis Armstrong did it, and it became, you know, a crime. 1235 01:14:18,767 --> 01:14:21,353 - That was a great thing then… - Yeah. 1236 01:14:21,453 --> 01:14:25,082 …'cause what's going on now with all these marches and organisations, 1237 01:14:25,182 --> 01:14:28,602 they won't let it happen no more now, you know, all that makeup. 1238 01:14:29,528 --> 01:14:31,238 First thing about blackface is 1239 01:14:31,338 --> 01:14:34,049 {\an8}we have to understand that it comes out of minstrelsy. 1240 01:14:34,149 --> 01:14:37,402 {\an8}Minstrelsy was not invented to elevate Negroes. 1241 01:14:38,103 --> 01:14:44,735 {\an8}Minstrelsy was invented to get jobs for white guys who were imitating Negroes. 1242 01:14:46,220 --> 01:14:50,224 Now, what it became, ironically, 1243 01:14:50,324 --> 01:14:57,289 was the first mass popular phenomenon in American culture. 1244 01:15:03,504 --> 01:15:05,797 {\an8}You have to know what the tradition is. 1245 01:15:06,483 --> 01:15:09,110 {\an8}So it's people everywhere who don't know what that tradition is. 1246 01:15:09,204 --> 01:15:12,040 All they're seeing is a blackface minstrel, 1247 01:15:12,129 --> 01:15:13,923 but he wasn't looking at it like that. 1248 01:15:14,018 --> 01:15:16,604 You had a lot of traditions and things that you had 1249 01:15:16,704 --> 01:15:20,416 that were viable and good and meaningful. 1250 01:15:21,088 --> 01:15:24,258 And then, during the movement, we threw all of that stuff out. 1251 01:15:24,358 --> 01:15:26,902 Dancing a certain way, cheesing, Tomming. 1252 01:15:27,694 --> 01:15:30,280 And we didn't want to be a part of any of that. 1253 01:15:35,268 --> 01:15:36,937 {\an8}"And after the funeral, 1254 01:15:37,037 --> 01:15:39,623 {\an8}with just Sonny and me alone in the empty kitchen, 1255 01:15:40,374 --> 01:15:43,544 {\an8}I tried to find out something about him. 1256 01:15:44,294 --> 01:15:45,546 'What do you want to do?' 1257 01:15:46,171 --> 01:15:48,632 'I want to play jazz,' he said. 1258 01:15:49,132 --> 01:15:51,844 'You mean... like Louis Armstrong?' 1259 01:15:52,469 --> 01:15:54,388 His face closed as though I'd struck him. 1260 01:15:54,972 --> 01:15:58,767 'No, I'm not talking about none of that old-time, down-home crap.'" 1261 01:15:59,476 --> 01:16:04,106 Pops, how much do you think you've lost out of... 1262 01:16:04,581 --> 01:16:07,042 not your own life and certainly not your own pride, 1263 01:16:07,142 --> 01:16:10,521 but out of commercial life by being born Black in a white country? 1264 01:16:10,621 --> 01:16:13,082 No, I don't look at it that way. 1265 01:16:13,740 --> 01:16:17,494 Your colour don't mean shit to me if you're a dumb son of a bitch. 1266 01:16:18,187 --> 01:16:19,188 You understand? 1267 01:16:19,288 --> 01:16:22,708 Right, so, are you a man or mouse? It's up to you. 1268 01:16:23,184 --> 01:16:26,771 {\an8}A lot of young people resented the way 1269 01:16:26,865 --> 01:16:30,618 {\an8}they thought Armstrong was too submissive to the United States. 1270 01:16:30,708 --> 01:16:33,460 If you coming up in the '50s and '60s, 1271 01:16:33,548 --> 01:16:34,924 there's a different aesthetic, 1272 01:16:35,010 --> 01:16:38,096 a different kind of attitude, political attitude, in the street. 1273 01:16:38,189 --> 01:16:41,942 And they didn't understand Louis because Louis was always affable, 1274 01:16:42,042 --> 01:16:42,918 always smiling. 1275 01:16:46,749 --> 01:16:47,750 Yay! 1276 01:16:47,844 --> 01:16:51,723 ♪ Keeps that Georgia on my mind 1277 01:16:51,820 --> 01:16:53,572 ♪ Yeah 1278 01:16:53,672 --> 01:16:55,382 ♪ Mmm ♪ 1279 01:16:57,058 --> 01:17:00,604 They don't realise that Louis was doing that 1280 01:17:00,704 --> 01:17:02,664 when he was around his friends. 1281 01:17:03,433 --> 01:17:05,935 - He was acting the same way. - That's right. 1282 01:17:06,029 --> 01:17:08,198 But when you do it in front of white folks 1283 01:17:08,288 --> 01:17:11,833 and try to make them enjoy what you feel... 1284 01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:13,338 - That's what he was doing. - Right! 1285 01:17:13,431 --> 01:17:15,016 - They call him Uncle Tom. - Yes. 1286 01:17:15,116 --> 01:17:20,664 ♪ Oh, you can bend her legs Bend her arms and bathe her too 1287 01:17:22,784 --> 01:17:24,703 ♪ Let's fly down or drive down To New Orleans 1288 01:17:24,797 --> 01:17:27,592 {\an8}First time you misplace words and do that shit, 1289 01:17:27,681 --> 01:17:29,934 {\an8}they gonna say you Uncle Tomming. And goddamn it... 1290 01:17:30,021 --> 01:17:33,608 And every fucking nationality comedian stays right in this category. 1291 01:17:33,693 --> 01:17:35,487 Look at the Jew, doesn't he use his dialect? 1292 01:17:35,571 --> 01:17:37,448 I ain't supposed to be no comedian. 1293 01:17:37,532 --> 01:17:38,950 That's just everyday life, you know. 1294 01:17:39,034 --> 01:17:41,370 "Suppose" my ass. You are a natural comedian. 1295 01:17:41,454 --> 01:17:42,955 Yeah, well, that's all right. 1296 01:17:43,039 --> 01:17:46,125 {\an8}A lot of his film roles, the early ones, I never liked those. 1297 01:17:46,209 --> 01:17:49,838 {\an8}For my generation to see him singing to horses and stuff, 1298 01:17:49,921 --> 01:17:53,299 or the kind of way Black people acted in films, 1299 01:17:53,382 --> 01:17:54,842 it's not just Louis Armstrong. 1300 01:17:54,925 --> 01:17:57,052 ♪ Gosh all, git up 1301 01:17:57,136 --> 01:17:59,514 ♪ How'd they get so lit up? 1302 01:17:59,597 --> 01:18:02,141 ♪ Gosh all, git up 1303 01:18:02,224 --> 01:18:04,643 ♪ How'd they get that size? ♪ 1304 01:18:04,727 --> 01:18:07,355 Archie got his nose broke for fighting a nigga 1305 01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:10,025 'cause he didn't like the way he talked about me. 1306 01:18:10,108 --> 01:18:12,902 This smug motherfucker said, "Louis Armstrong, 1307 01:18:12,985 --> 01:18:14,403 Uncle Tom nigga." 1308 01:18:14,487 --> 01:18:17,574 When the fuck have I "Uncle Tommed" in my life? 1309 01:18:17,657 --> 01:18:19,450 I tell ya. All you have to do is 1310 01:18:19,542 --> 01:18:22,753 break up your face and mug, and a nigga say you're Uncle Tom. 1311 01:18:22,853 --> 01:18:26,106 - I'm there blowing this fucking horn… - A man got expressions, you know? 1312 01:18:27,732 --> 01:18:30,235 Most of the fellas I grew up with, myself included, 1313 01:18:30,335 --> 01:18:32,171 we used to laugh at Louis Armstrong. 1314 01:18:32,989 --> 01:18:34,448 We knew he could play the horn, 1315 01:18:34,548 --> 01:18:37,426 but that didn't save him from our malice and our ridicule. 1316 01:18:38,010 --> 01:18:40,679 Everywhere we'd look, there would be old Louis. 1317 01:18:41,329 --> 01:18:46,710 Sweat popping, eyes bugging, mouth wide open, grinning, 1318 01:18:46,810 --> 01:18:49,271 oh, my Lord, from ear to ear. 1319 01:18:50,522 --> 01:18:52,191 "Ooftah," we called it. 1320 01:18:52,842 --> 01:18:57,513 Mopping his brow, ducking his head, doing his thing for the white man. 1321 01:18:57,613 --> 01:18:59,907 Oh, yeah. 1322 01:19:02,309 --> 01:19:08,023 It wasn't until 1966, when we were working together 1323 01:19:08,123 --> 01:19:12,461 on a picture in New York with Sammy Davis Jr., Cicely Tyson, 1324 01:19:13,212 --> 01:19:14,755 that I got to know Louis better. 1325 01:19:16,449 --> 01:19:18,826 One day, we'd broken for lunch, 1326 01:19:18,926 --> 01:19:20,677 and I decided to stay inside. 1327 01:19:21,161 --> 01:19:23,330 It was quiet, so I thought everybody had gone. 1328 01:19:23,430 --> 01:19:26,642 I went back on the set to lie down on the bed, 1329 01:19:28,793 --> 01:19:34,174 and there was Louis by the door, sitting in a chair, 1330 01:19:34,274 --> 01:19:38,362 staring up and out into space 1331 01:19:39,930 --> 01:19:41,598 with the saddest, 1332 01:19:41,698 --> 01:19:45,160 most heartbreaking expression I've ever seen on a man's face. 1333 01:19:47,996 --> 01:19:49,915 I just stared at him for a moment. 1334 01:19:51,333 --> 01:19:54,837 And then when I tried to turn and sneak away, 1335 01:19:56,188 --> 01:19:57,648 the noise snapped Louis out of it. 1336 01:19:57,742 --> 01:20:00,203 And all of a sudden, there was that professional grin again, 1337 01:20:00,293 --> 01:20:01,294 mouth wide open. 1338 01:20:01,381 --> 01:20:03,299 He whipped out his handkerchief, mopped his brow. 1339 01:20:03,393 --> 01:20:04,977 "Hey, Pops, 1340 01:20:05,077 --> 01:20:08,455 look like you cats trying to starve old Louis to death, yeah." 1341 01:20:09,726 --> 01:20:12,145 I put on my face and grinned right back. 1342 01:20:15,482 --> 01:20:16,650 But it wasn't funny. 1343 01:20:18,569 --> 01:20:19,570 Not anymore. 1344 01:20:22,364 --> 01:20:25,659 What I saw in that look shook me. 1345 01:20:27,661 --> 01:20:28,912 It was my father. 1346 01:20:29,872 --> 01:20:31,123 My uncle. 1347 01:20:31,874 --> 01:20:34,793 Myself, down through the generations, 1348 01:20:35,794 --> 01:20:37,921 doing exactly what Louis had had to do, 1349 01:20:38,755 --> 01:20:39,882 for the same reason, 1350 01:20:41,383 --> 01:20:42,384 to survive. 1351 01:20:43,510 --> 01:20:45,262 I never laughed at Louis after that, 1352 01:20:47,389 --> 01:20:52,728 for beneath that gravel voice and that shuffle, 1353 01:20:55,105 --> 01:21:01,486 under all that mouth with more teeth than a piano had keys, 1354 01:21:04,156 --> 01:21:08,160 was a horn that could kill a man. 1355 01:21:09,077 --> 01:21:13,207 That horn is where Louis had kept his manhood hid all those years. 1356 01:21:13,832 --> 01:21:16,043 Enough for him, enough for all of us. 1357 01:21:39,416 --> 01:21:41,919 I understand you're somewhat of a politician. 1358 01:21:42,013 --> 01:21:43,806 Do you know anything about politics? 1359 01:21:43,903 --> 01:21:45,904 No. No. 1360 01:21:46,004 --> 01:21:49,967 Politics… I don't think you could print that... 1361 01:21:50,911 --> 01:21:54,623 that are African golfers, and stuff like that. 1362 01:21:55,249 --> 01:21:59,545 {\an8}We confuse what we perceived as the social demeanour 1363 01:22:00,379 --> 01:22:02,923 {\an8}in that context of lynching... 1364 01:22:03,399 --> 01:22:06,152 You understand? Overt segregation. 1365 01:22:06,252 --> 01:22:09,588 And we thought that Louis was submitting to that. 1366 01:22:09,688 --> 01:22:13,733 ♪ Sometimes I feel 1367 01:22:14,661 --> 01:22:16,579 ♪ Like a motherless child ♪ 1368 01:22:16,673 --> 01:22:21,094 You know, Louis's expression was musical and artistic 1369 01:22:21,191 --> 01:22:22,526 and transcended that. 1370 01:22:22,626 --> 01:22:25,379 When it was possible for Louis to speak, he spoke. 1371 01:22:31,352 --> 01:22:33,187 {\an8}Louis was very sensitive 1372 01:22:33,287 --> 01:22:38,584 {\an8}when people did something that he felt... I guess the word would be "unethical." 1373 01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:43,105 What about you? Do you think the coloured students will show up? 1374 01:22:43,199 --> 01:22:45,201 If I got anything to do with it, they won't show up. 1375 01:22:45,291 --> 01:22:48,544 Well, I think it's a breaking point of the school integration. 1376 01:22:48,630 --> 01:22:51,259 I don't feel that they should have a right to go to school. 1377 01:22:51,352 --> 01:22:54,356 ♪ Oh, when the saints 1378 01:22:54,456 --> 01:22:56,249 ♪ When the saints 1379 01:22:56,953 --> 01:22:59,205 ♪ Go marching in 1380 01:22:59,299 --> 01:23:01,801 ♪ Go marching in 1381 01:23:01,898 --> 01:23:06,819 ♪ - When the saints go marching in - Yeah 1382 01:23:06,919 --> 01:23:08,837 ♪ Oh, yeah 1383 01:23:09,307 --> 01:23:14,770 ♪ I want to be in that number 1384 01:23:14,870 --> 01:23:16,830 ♪ Oh, yeah 1385 01:23:17,581 --> 01:23:23,545 ♪ When the saints come marching in 1386 01:23:25,648 --> 01:23:28,109 ♪ - When the saints - Oh, when the saints 1387 01:23:28,203 --> 01:23:30,830 ♪ - Go marching in - Are marching in 1388 01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:34,215 ♪ Who's gonna play on the day That the saints go marching in? 1389 01:23:34,303 --> 01:23:37,973 ♪ Well, man The mostest and the greatest 1390 01:23:38,059 --> 01:23:40,269 ♪ From the oldest to the latest 1391 01:23:40,353 --> 01:23:42,605 ♪ Gonna play in the band In the big bandstand 1392 01:23:42,689 --> 01:23:44,066 ♪ When the saints go marching in 1393 01:23:44,150 --> 01:23:46,777 - Now, Louis, how about Brahms? - He ain't no bum. 1394 01:23:46,861 --> 01:23:48,279 Little Rock, Arkansas. 1395 01:23:48,363 --> 01:23:49,822 The white population are determined 1396 01:23:49,906 --> 01:23:53,326 to prevent coloured students from going to the school their own children attend. 1397 01:23:53,409 --> 01:23:55,995 ♪ And Mozart composed With all he had 1398 01:23:56,078 --> 01:23:58,622 With symphonies And operas and all that jazz 1399 01:23:58,705 --> 01:24:01,959 Later, the Central High School of Little Rock storm centre was sealed off 1400 01:24:02,051 --> 01:24:03,094 by orders of the governor, 1401 01:24:03,194 --> 01:24:05,196 who called out the state National Guard. 1402 01:24:05,729 --> 01:24:08,941 ♪ Oh, when the saints Go marching in 1403 01:24:09,035 --> 01:24:10,202 ♪ Oh, when the saints 1404 01:24:10,292 --> 01:24:13,045 Coloured youngsters arrived under safe conduct by the guards, 1405 01:24:13,133 --> 01:24:15,760 but no sooner had they arrived than they were off again. 1406 01:24:15,846 --> 01:24:18,306 Arkansas had evidently decided to make its own laws 1407 01:24:18,399 --> 01:24:19,567 on the subject of integration. 1408 01:24:19,667 --> 01:24:24,422 ♪ Go marching in ♪ 1409 01:24:25,749 --> 01:24:27,793 What are you gonna tell the Russians 1410 01:24:27,887 --> 01:24:30,306 when they ask you about the Little Rock incident? 1411 01:24:30,396 --> 01:24:32,731 It all depends what time they send me over there. 1412 01:24:32,826 --> 01:24:36,037 I don't think they should send me unless they straighten that mess down South. 1413 01:24:36,137 --> 01:24:40,016 Two, four, six, eight! We don't want to integrate! 1414 01:24:42,391 --> 01:24:47,521 They've been ignoring the Constitution. Although they're taught it in school. 1415 01:24:47,615 --> 01:24:49,909 But when they go home, their parents tell them different. 1416 01:24:49,999 --> 01:24:51,500 Say, "You don't have to abide by it 1417 01:24:51,588 --> 01:24:54,006 because we've been getting away with it a hundred years. 1418 01:24:54,092 --> 01:24:57,804 So, nobody tells on each other, so don't bother with it." 1419 01:24:57,897 --> 01:25:02,026 So, if they ask me what's happening if I go now, I can't tell a lie. 1420 01:25:02,126 --> 01:25:05,546 That's one thing. There's no worth lying the way I feel about it. 1421 01:25:06,023 --> 01:25:07,774 - Thank you, Louis. - Okay. 1422 01:25:08,291 --> 01:25:09,584 {\an8}Now I'll say this to you. 1423 01:25:09,684 --> 01:25:12,979 {\an8}I'll never open the public schools in Little Rock 1424 01:25:13,079 --> 01:25:15,665 {\an8}on an integrated basis until the people say so. 1425 01:25:17,634 --> 01:25:19,678 {\an8}You know, there's a certain type of naïveté 1426 01:25:19,778 --> 01:25:21,030 {\an8}that a country like this has, 1427 01:25:21,130 --> 01:25:24,759 {\an8}in those who are super patriotic and they don't see anything. 1428 01:25:25,443 --> 01:25:27,069 It's just, "Everything we do is great." 1429 01:25:27,169 --> 01:25:31,173 And then those who are not patriotic at all and see that we don't do anything. 1430 01:25:31,757 --> 01:25:34,092 Louis Armstrong was not in either camp. 1431 01:25:34,576 --> 01:25:37,871 And I dare say that he was actually more in the forefront of civil rights 1432 01:25:37,971 --> 01:25:39,640 in terms of making statements 1433 01:25:40,115 --> 01:25:43,202 than a lot of the so-called modern musicians of that time were. 1434 01:25:43,302 --> 01:25:46,138 And even when he said what he said about Eisenhower in the '50s. 1435 01:25:46,238 --> 01:25:48,281 Yeah, he was upset about segregation. 1436 01:25:48,924 --> 01:25:51,343 Well, he said that as far as he was concerned, 1437 01:25:51,443 --> 01:25:53,487 Ike and the government could go to hell, 1438 01:25:54,046 --> 01:25:57,925 and he sang his version of "The Star-Spangled Banner" to me 1439 01:25:58,025 --> 01:26:00,277 with very dirty lyrics. 1440 01:26:00,377 --> 01:26:05,465 "Oh, say, can you mothers... MFs see by the MF early light." 1441 01:26:06,124 --> 01:26:07,334 He was very mad. 1442 01:26:08,210 --> 01:26:10,420 {\an8}Then he said a number of things, 1443 01:26:10,938 --> 01:26:15,818 {\an8}one of which was, "As for Orval Faubus, he's just an ignorant plowboy." 1444 01:26:15,912 --> 01:26:17,664 Well, I think it's a damn shame 1445 01:26:17,754 --> 01:26:21,465 for people to be so deceitful and two-faced. 1446 01:26:21,552 --> 01:26:23,428 I mean, that governor. 1447 01:26:23,514 --> 01:26:24,933 I mean, I bet you right now, 1448 01:26:25,017 --> 01:26:27,895 he's got an old coloured mammy there nursing his baby. 1449 01:26:27,979 --> 01:26:32,109 The nation alone, I mean, is misguided, cold-blooded. 1450 01:26:32,193 --> 01:26:33,820 Shame just to keep it up. 1451 01:26:33,903 --> 01:26:34,904 They can't stand it. 1452 01:26:34,987 --> 01:26:36,989 I mean, how can they rest well at night 1453 01:26:37,081 --> 01:26:39,082 thinking they have to go through that tomorrow? 1454 01:26:39,182 --> 01:26:42,185 The kids, they're only doing what their parents told 'em. 1455 01:26:43,161 --> 01:26:44,496 They wouldn't do it if... 1456 01:26:45,473 --> 01:26:48,309 I mean, the coloured people who, at the end of the day, 1457 01:26:48,403 --> 01:26:52,156 they... I don't know why, but... when they throw their… 1458 01:26:52,253 --> 01:26:54,547 We throw our heart in it and everything, 1459 01:26:54,647 --> 01:26:56,900 because we're just doing it for our country. 1460 01:26:57,694 --> 01:27:01,030 Everybody was astonished when Louis did it publicly, 1461 01:27:01,124 --> 01:27:05,378 but privately he had expressed stuff like that all his life. 1462 01:27:05,468 --> 01:27:10,849 You know, he was very conscious of what we now call civil rights. 1463 01:27:10,936 --> 01:27:14,064 {\an8}He blew up. He put it on the line. 1464 01:27:14,150 --> 01:27:17,820 {\an8}You know, and, of course, he had very, very bad comments 1465 01:27:17,904 --> 01:27:21,073 from our political leaders about making this particular statement. 1466 01:27:21,157 --> 01:27:24,160 That... You know, they interviewed Adam Clayton Powell. 1467 01:27:24,252 --> 01:27:26,004 They interviewed Sammy Davis. 1468 01:27:26,104 --> 01:27:27,564 They put Pops down 1469 01:27:28,015 --> 01:27:30,851 because they said he was a musician, he didn't know what he was talking about. 1470 01:27:30,945 --> 01:27:32,822 Louis was that kind of person. 1471 01:27:32,912 --> 01:27:34,205 He... Either he said nothing, 1472 01:27:34,291 --> 01:27:35,335 and when he got angry, 1473 01:27:35,420 --> 01:27:38,215 he said what was in his heart and his mind. 1474 01:27:38,300 --> 01:27:41,803 It seems that the White House was waiting for 1475 01:27:41,887 --> 01:27:44,097 some big name to speak out, 1476 01:27:44,180 --> 01:27:46,308 and Louis made his statement today, 1477 01:27:46,391 --> 01:27:48,727 and the troops were in Little Rock the next morning. 1478 01:27:48,818 --> 01:27:52,906 After he'd made the statement, he sent Eisenhower a wire saying that 1479 01:27:53,006 --> 01:27:56,176 "If you will go in with the troops, I'll go with you." 1480 01:27:57,277 --> 01:27:58,987 That's little known, you know… 1481 01:28:00,005 --> 01:28:01,924 You know, it's a funny thing. 1482 01:28:02,024 --> 01:28:05,444 Nobody really stopped to really dig Pops, and it's an unfortunate thing. 1483 01:28:05,544 --> 01:28:08,088 He felt it deeply. He really did. 1484 01:28:08,564 --> 01:28:10,566 A prophet is without honour in his own country. 1485 01:28:10,666 --> 01:28:11,959 That's it. 1486 01:28:12,609 --> 01:28:14,194 ♪ Yes ♪ 1487 01:28:14,294 --> 01:28:15,295 Great. 1488 01:28:15,813 --> 01:28:18,440 We're gonna do this once more. Louis, and say… 1489 01:28:18,534 --> 01:28:20,911 Set man free 1490 01:28:21,001 --> 01:28:22,461 - Me too? - We... No. 1491 01:28:22,549 --> 01:28:23,591 When they get through… 1492 01:28:23,677 --> 01:28:25,135 Set man free 1493 01:28:25,220 --> 01:28:30,100 ♪ They say I look like God 1494 01:28:30,185 --> 01:28:34,314 ♪ In the image of God Created he them 1495 01:28:34,398 --> 01:28:37,734 ♪ Could God be Black? 1496 01:28:37,818 --> 01:28:40,195 ♪ My God... ♪ 1497 01:28:40,287 --> 01:28:45,375 {\an8}The Real Ambassadors. It was meant to be a stage show. 1498 01:28:45,475 --> 01:28:49,479 {\an8}And unfortunately, it never made it to Broadway. 1499 01:28:50,222 --> 01:28:52,391 The tale of it was 1500 01:28:52,485 --> 01:28:57,448 that jazz represented America in a very special way 1501 01:28:57,538 --> 01:29:02,126 and that jazz musicians were the real ambassadors, 1502 01:29:02,213 --> 01:29:05,133 not politicians or speech makers. 1503 01:29:05,218 --> 01:29:07,929 ♪ Can it be? 1504 01:29:08,013 --> 01:29:09,556 ♪ Hallelujah ♪ 1505 01:29:09,639 --> 01:29:12,268 {\an8}He brought the same thing to every song he sang, 1506 01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:13,695 {\an8}understanding the human condition. 1507 01:29:13,795 --> 01:29:16,215 {\an8}Any kind of lyrics, he could just imbue with that. 1508 01:29:16,665 --> 01:29:19,418 That understanding, it's like a... It's a spiritual thing. 1509 01:29:19,518 --> 01:29:21,896 It's a depth and an insight. 1510 01:29:21,996 --> 01:29:26,584 ♪ He's watching all the Earth ♪ 1511 01:29:27,134 --> 01:29:31,263 The simple emotional impact of jazz has cut through all kinds of barriers. 1512 01:29:31,357 --> 01:29:33,985 Louis Armstrong has become an extraordinary kind of… 1513 01:29:34,082 --> 01:29:35,751 roaming ambassador of goodwill. 1514 01:29:35,851 --> 01:29:37,895 Well, you might say he's America's ambassador with a horn. 1515 01:29:38,462 --> 01:29:41,715 ♪ I'm the real ambassador 1516 01:29:42,483 --> 01:29:47,321 ♪ It is evident I was sent By government to take your place 1517 01:29:47,415 --> 01:29:49,334 ♪ All I do is play the blues ♪ 1518 01:29:49,424 --> 01:29:53,094 See, Jack, I think you're wrong about me being the ambassador. 1519 01:29:53,181 --> 01:29:56,100 I think jazz is the ambassador. 1520 01:29:56,186 --> 01:30:00,732 Well, I might be the courier that takes the message over there. 1521 01:30:00,816 --> 01:30:03,653 But it's jazz that does the talking. 1522 01:30:03,737 --> 01:30:07,658 My horn and me have travelled from Sweden to Spain, 1523 01:30:07,750 --> 01:30:10,127 and when I played Berlin, 1524 01:30:10,227 --> 01:30:12,938 a lot of them cats jumped the iron fence to hear old Satchmo. 1525 01:30:15,516 --> 01:30:18,644 Which proves that music is stronger than nations. 1526 01:30:18,738 --> 01:30:20,740 I don't know much about politics, 1527 01:30:20,830 --> 01:30:23,082 but I know these people in foreign countries 1528 01:30:23,169 --> 01:30:26,505 hear all kinds of things about America, 1529 01:30:26,591 --> 01:30:28,927 some good, some bad. 1530 01:30:29,020 --> 01:30:31,731 I'm pretty sure what comes out of this horn 1531 01:30:31,831 --> 01:30:34,458 makes them feel better about us. 1532 01:30:35,394 --> 01:30:38,772 One thing is sure, they know a trumpet ain't no cannon. 1533 01:30:41,066 --> 01:30:44,862 {\an8}It ought to be possible for American consumers of any colour 1534 01:30:45,571 --> 01:30:49,825 {\an8}to receive equal service in places of public accommodation, 1535 01:30:50,325 --> 01:30:54,580 such as hotels and restaurants and theatres and retail stores, 1536 01:30:55,305 --> 01:30:59,351 without being forced to resort to demonstrations in the street. 1537 01:30:59,445 --> 01:31:01,239 When you return to the United States, 1538 01:31:01,329 --> 01:31:05,041 do you intend to take a more active part in civil rights? 1539 01:31:05,128 --> 01:31:10,467 They have other people, politicians, who take care of things like that. 1540 01:31:10,561 --> 01:31:16,775 And so the best I can do is, put a little something in their till. 1541 01:31:16,875 --> 01:31:18,168 And that's my part. 1542 01:31:18,787 --> 01:31:22,583 That's the best I can do. Because I love everybody. 1543 01:31:22,677 --> 01:31:25,221 I mean, the white people, 1544 01:31:25,311 --> 01:31:28,397 they're my greatest fans all through the South. 1545 01:31:28,492 --> 01:31:32,413 We stay in the best hotels, and they give us the best courtesies, 1546 01:31:32,513 --> 01:31:38,186 and my biggest audience is people all over the United States. 1547 01:31:38,665 --> 01:31:41,251 So I can't abuse either one. 1548 01:31:42,068 --> 01:31:47,699 So I don't ignore the march and the... whatever it is. 1549 01:31:47,799 --> 01:31:52,095 I just do my little part by putting a little money in my part. 1550 01:31:52,788 --> 01:31:55,249 Which some of them don't do, but I do. 1551 01:31:55,349 --> 01:31:57,643 You understand Pops? That's right. 1552 01:31:59,496 --> 01:32:03,416 {\an8}"For me, if I'd be out somewhere marching with a sign 1553 01:32:03,510 --> 01:32:05,762 {\an8}and some cat hits me in my chops, 1554 01:32:05,859 --> 01:32:06,944 I'm finished. 1555 01:32:07,044 --> 01:32:10,089 A trumpet man gets hit in the chops, and he's through. 1556 01:32:10,614 --> 01:32:13,784 If my people don't dig me the way that I am, I'm sorry. 1557 01:32:14,451 --> 01:32:17,996 If they don't go along with me giving my dough instead of marching… 1558 01:32:19,164 --> 01:32:21,375 Well, every cat's entitled to his opinion. 1559 01:32:22,059 --> 01:32:25,771 But that's the way I figure I can help out and still keep working. 1560 01:32:25,865 --> 01:32:29,619 If they let me alone on this score, I'll do my part in my way. 1561 01:32:29,708 --> 01:32:33,546 Pops, I come out of a part of the South where it ain't no way in the world 1562 01:32:33,633 --> 01:32:35,552 you can forget you're coloured. 1563 01:32:35,637 --> 01:32:38,265 My own mother went through hell down there. 1564 01:32:38,349 --> 01:32:40,518 My grandma used to have tears in her eyes 1565 01:32:40,610 --> 01:32:43,697 when she'd talk about the lynchings and all that crap. 1566 01:32:43,797 --> 01:32:48,051 Even myself, I've seen things that would make my flesh crawl. 1567 01:32:48,735 --> 01:32:53,115 But it wasn't a damn thing I could do about it and keep on breathing." 1568 01:32:53,699 --> 01:32:56,994 Louis, how much weight have you lost? You're skinny as a rail. 1569 01:32:57,468 --> 01:32:59,637 Well, I don't know, 1570 01:32:59,731 --> 01:33:03,235 around 40, 45 pounds, like that, in a couple of months. 1571 01:33:03,325 --> 01:33:05,786 Just took it easy, you know, and... 1572 01:33:05,873 --> 01:33:07,666 What'd you do about the wardrobe? 1573 01:33:07,752 --> 01:33:10,297 Well, I just got rid of it. I mean, it was a pleasure. 1574 01:33:10,381 --> 01:33:12,467 You can't take them up but once. 1575 01:33:12,559 --> 01:33:15,020 So, I took it up once, and it was still too big. 1576 01:33:15,120 --> 01:33:16,121 So that was it. 1577 01:33:17,947 --> 01:33:19,699 Mr Armstrong, everybody calls you Louis, 1578 01:33:19,793 --> 01:33:21,253 - and I hope I can. - Yes. 1579 01:33:21,343 --> 01:33:24,138 You've been very sick the last couple of years. How you feeling? 1580 01:33:24,225 --> 01:33:28,313 Well, I feel fine now, you know, and like the old saying, 1581 01:33:28,398 --> 01:33:29,775 "I've left it all behind me." 1582 01:33:29,860 --> 01:33:32,070 You went into the intensive care unit twice. 1583 01:33:32,154 --> 01:33:33,363 Twice, yeah, yeah. 1584 01:33:33,447 --> 01:33:35,657 Did you think your life was coming to an end? 1585 01:33:35,741 --> 01:33:38,660 A man going into intensive care twice, 1586 01:33:38,744 --> 01:33:40,704 you know, he's looking right at Gabriel, 1587 01:33:40,796 --> 01:33:41,797 and he's calling me. 1588 01:33:41,897 --> 01:33:43,857 He wants to blow a duet with me. 1589 01:33:45,234 --> 01:33:48,404 But I said, "No, daddy, your union card ain't straight. 1590 01:33:48,504 --> 01:33:49,630 I better wait." 1591 01:33:51,940 --> 01:33:54,693 When I was in the Beth Israel Hospital, 1592 01:33:54,787 --> 01:33:58,416 boy, I got boxes and boxes of mail 1593 01:33:58,513 --> 01:34:01,015 from everywhere over the waters. 1594 01:34:01,115 --> 01:34:05,870 "Come on, Satch, get out of that bed and come blow. We're waiting for you." 1595 01:34:06,772 --> 01:34:09,733 {\an8}Hello, Louis. This is Enrico. 1596 01:34:10,502 --> 01:34:16,132 {\an8}I hope you are getting better, and we are all praying for you. 1597 01:34:16,226 --> 01:34:19,020 How many more years do you think you'll be blowing that horn? 1598 01:34:19,109 --> 01:34:21,070 Well, I'll be blowing all my life. 1599 01:34:21,156 --> 01:34:23,201 I mean, that's the way it'll be, you know. 1600 01:34:23,286 --> 01:34:28,625 And I... Even if I'll be teaching some kids or something, I'll always be around music. 1601 01:34:28,710 --> 01:34:32,089 Satchmo, you've been everywhere and done just about everything. 1602 01:34:32,181 --> 01:34:34,892 Is there anything you haven't done that you'd like to do? 1603 01:34:34,992 --> 01:34:38,745 Yeah, keep living. I ain't finished yet. 1604 01:34:42,015 --> 01:34:44,184 ♪ I see trees of green 1605 01:34:46,937 --> 01:34:49,147 ♪ Red roses too 1606 01:34:50,148 --> 01:34:55,988 ♪ I see them bloom for me and you 1607 01:34:56,655 --> 01:35:00,325 ♪ And I think to myself 1608 01:35:02,077 --> 01:35:06,456 ♪ What a wonderful world 1609 01:35:10,360 --> 01:35:14,114 ♪ I see skies of blue ♪ 1610 01:35:14,214 --> 01:35:18,468 There's a zillion people who dug that tune the way I did it when I felt it 1611 01:35:19,161 --> 01:35:23,540 because there's so much in "Wonderful World" 1612 01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:29,188 that brings me back to my neighbourhood where I live in Corona, New York. 1613 01:35:29,747 --> 01:35:32,750 Lucille and I, ever since we married, 1614 01:35:32,844 --> 01:35:35,972 we've been right there in that block. 1615 01:35:36,062 --> 01:35:39,816 And everybody keeps their little homes up like we do. 1616 01:35:39,903 --> 01:35:41,988 And it's just like one big family. 1617 01:35:42,073 --> 01:35:45,577 I saw three generations come up in them blocks. 1618 01:35:45,661 --> 01:35:46,871 So that's why I can say, 1619 01:35:46,955 --> 01:35:52,336 ♪ I hear babies cry and 1620 01:35:52,428 --> 01:35:55,932 ♪ I've watched them grow 1621 01:35:56,032 --> 01:36:01,996 ♪ They'll learn much more Than I'll ever know 1622 01:36:02,721 --> 01:36:05,766 ♪ And I think to myself 1623 01:36:07,809 --> 01:36:12,523 ♪ What a wonderful world 1624 01:36:15,359 --> 01:36:22,366 ♪ Yes, I think to myself 1625 01:36:23,659 --> 01:36:30,666 ♪ What a wonderful world ♪ 1626 01:36:33,728 --> 01:36:38,858 My doctor came to hear me blow, and he was perfectly satisfied. 1627 01:36:38,952 --> 01:36:42,247 He examined me thoroughly 1628 01:36:42,336 --> 01:36:46,924 to see if my blowing affected the old ticker, you know. 1629 01:36:47,011 --> 01:36:52,559 And the beats were perfectly normal. 1630 01:36:52,653 --> 01:36:55,781 Yeah. 1631 01:36:55,881 --> 01:36:59,676 ♪ Happy birthday to you 1632 01:37:00,153 --> 01:37:04,449 ♪ Happy birthday, dear Louis 1633 01:37:05,058 --> 01:37:10,355 ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ 1634 01:37:10,455 --> 01:37:14,126 This is seven... seventy steps. 1635 01:37:15,252 --> 01:37:17,379 And ten more steps, I'll be in heaven. 1636 01:37:20,115 --> 01:37:21,950 It had been my opinion 1637 01:37:22,050 --> 01:37:24,803 that Louis was gonna drop dead on stage one day. 1638 01:37:25,371 --> 01:37:28,332 I didn't feel bad about that because if he had to go, I think, 1639 01:37:28,432 --> 01:37:30,767 "What better way to go than doing the thing you love to do?" 1640 01:37:39,260 --> 01:37:44,223 {\an8}A lot of us would be very happy to have accomplished 1641 01:37:44,323 --> 01:37:46,867 {\an8}to the extent that he did what we originally set out to do. 1642 01:37:47,634 --> 01:37:50,721 He had all the material things that he needed, but more importantly, 1643 01:37:50,821 --> 01:37:54,491 he had the respect and the love of millions of people. 1644 01:37:54,591 --> 01:37:57,844 I mean, literally millions, all over the world. 1645 01:37:58,420 --> 01:38:00,214 What more could any man ask for? 1646 01:38:01,190 --> 01:38:06,487 {\an8}The night Louis passed, I had no idea, this man... 1647 01:38:06,581 --> 01:38:08,666 {\an8}He disappointed... He was doing so well. 1648 01:38:08,756 --> 01:38:10,299 It was a shock to me. 1649 01:38:10,386 --> 01:38:12,514 And he was telling me, he says, "You know, I feel good." 1650 01:38:12,607 --> 01:38:14,484 He says, "You know, I've got to get back to work." 1651 01:38:14,584 --> 01:38:20,715 So that's the mood Louis was in on the 5th of July of 1971. 1652 01:39:06,297 --> 01:39:09,175 Music kept Louis "Satchmo" Armstrong rolling 1653 01:39:09,269 --> 01:39:10,728 for 71 years, 1654 01:39:10,818 --> 01:39:14,446 until this morning when he died in his sleep in his home in New York. 1655 01:39:14,533 --> 01:39:17,995 He had been battling heart and kidney ailments for years. 1656 01:39:18,081 --> 01:39:20,876 {\an8}We aren't saying goodbye to Louis tonight, 1657 01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:23,254 {\an8}for a man's music does not die with him. 1658 01:39:23,338 --> 01:39:24,965 {\an8}Certainly not this man's. 1659 01:39:25,049 --> 01:39:27,927 While we can only guess how Beethoven played the piano 1660 01:39:28,011 --> 01:39:30,513 or Mozart conducted an orchestra, 1661 01:39:30,605 --> 01:39:34,650 the sounds of Louis singing, playing, or just plain talking 1662 01:39:34,750 --> 01:39:37,336 will live as long as there is anyone to listen. 1663 01:39:38,187 --> 01:39:41,690 Well, he was a great artist and a very sweet man. 1664 01:39:42,524 --> 01:39:45,527 Down-to-earth, a lovely neighbour, 1665 01:39:46,929 --> 01:39:50,057 he was a regular, and he just loved to be around people. 1666 01:39:50,157 --> 01:39:54,411 He was more of a friend instead of celebrity in the neighbourhood. 1667 01:40:03,045 --> 01:40:05,130 Bobby Hackett, learn anything from him? 1668 01:40:05,923 --> 01:40:08,634 To me, Pops was truly an immortal man. 1669 01:40:09,218 --> 01:40:11,887 And the truth of the matter is that he will never die. 1670 01:40:12,471 --> 01:40:16,183 {\an8}I think what he left will always be heard all over the world and enjoyed, 1671 01:40:16,917 --> 01:40:21,004 {\an8}and a very gentle reminder to everybody to love thy neighbour 1672 01:40:21,104 --> 01:40:23,023 and cut out the nonsense. 1673 01:40:23,590 --> 01:40:25,342 {\an8}He was a man that was beloved 1674 01:40:25,442 --> 01:40:28,320 {\an8}with a certain depth and intensity that you cannot fathom. 1675 01:40:28,820 --> 01:40:30,948 {\an8}It was 'cause of how he touched people. 1676 01:40:49,800 --> 01:40:55,138 Well, folks, that was my life, and I enjoyed all of it. 1677 01:40:55,722 --> 01:40:56,807 Yes, I did. 1678 01:40:57,432 --> 01:40:59,518 I don't feel ashamed at all. 1679 01:41:00,310 --> 01:41:06,233 My life has always been an open book, so I have nothing to hide. 1680 01:41:07,025 --> 01:41:10,612 Bye-bye. Love aplenty. 1681 01:41:11,530 --> 01:41:17,578 Soul foodly, "Satchmo" Louis Armstrong. 1682 01:41:22,016 --> 01:41:24,310 This is one number I like to do, folks, 1683 01:41:24,404 --> 01:41:28,324 and it tells you a whole lot about my life. 1684 01:41:28,421 --> 01:41:30,339 I can't tell it all, you know. 1685 01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:32,524 But let's give you a good synopsis. 1686 01:41:47,816 --> 01:41:54,031 ♪ When I was born long ago 1687 01:41:56,950 --> 01:42:01,997 ♪ July the 4th, 19-0-0 1688 01:42:04,458 --> 01:42:11,089 ♪ It was back of town in James Alley 1689 01:42:13,175 --> 01:42:18,889 ♪ A boy from New Orleans 1690 01:42:20,516 --> 01:42:27,231 ♪ When I was only five or so 1691 01:42:29,691 --> 01:42:34,905 ♪ Down Rampart Street I used to go 1692 01:42:36,949 --> 01:42:43,330 ♪ That's when I heard The great King Oliver 1693 01:42:45,374 --> 01:42:51,255 ♪ Blowing jazz from New Orleans 1694 01:42:52,881 --> 01:42:56,677 Now folks, all these years… 1695 01:42:59,221 --> 01:43:00,973 I've had a ball. 1696 01:43:05,352 --> 01:43:07,312 Thank you, Lord. 1697 01:43:09,940 --> 01:43:11,692 And I thank you all. 1698 01:43:14,611 --> 01:43:18,240 ♪ You are very kind 1699 01:43:19,783 --> 01:43:23,161 ♪ To old Satchmo, yes 1700 01:43:24,496 --> 01:43:26,373 Nice looking boy, ain't he? 1701 01:43:27,332 --> 01:43:34,339 ♪ A boy from New Orleans ♪ 148463

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