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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,091 --> 00:00:13,561 I tried as hard as I could to live a dream life, but I didn't end up-- 2 00:00:13,638 --> 00:00:16,428 You didn't try as hard as you could have, I'll tell you that. 3 00:00:18,393 --> 00:00:20,313 Tell me how I could've tried harder. 4 00:00:20,395 --> 00:00:21,435 There's not one thing-- 5 00:00:21,521 --> 00:00:25,191 - I don't know how you could've. - I lived for my dream life, 6 00:00:25,275 --> 00:00:27,485 but it just didn't work out. 7 00:00:27,986 --> 00:00:29,856 I hear you. I'm sure along the road 8 00:00:29,946 --> 00:00:32,196 there was something you could've done different. 9 00:00:33,408 --> 00:00:35,538 I feel the same in here as I did on the streets, 10 00:00:35,618 --> 00:00:37,038 so it doesn't really matter. 11 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,210 I miss one thing, you know what I mean? 12 00:00:39,414 --> 00:00:40,464 Your freedom. 13 00:00:40,540 --> 00:00:43,380 My freedom's not... That's not what I miss. 14 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,500 I miss one thing. Obviously, my daughter. 15 00:00:48,548 --> 00:00:50,878 Same thing I missed when I was on the streets, 16 00:00:50,967 --> 00:00:52,717 so it's not that big of a deal. 17 00:00:52,927 --> 00:00:54,177 It is what it is. 18 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:02,074 Advertise your product or brand here contact www.OpenSubtitles.org today 19 00:01:13,823 --> 00:01:16,283 Mr. Bradley, I'm gonna play exhibit 287. 20 00:01:16,534 --> 00:01:20,414 Recordings of your voice talking to police officers at the hospital. 21 00:01:21,247 --> 00:01:23,787 If you decide that you wanna tell on somebody 22 00:01:23,875 --> 00:01:25,625 so that they don't kill you the next time... 23 00:01:25,710 --> 00:01:27,750 'Cause just so you know, the reason why I got called 24 00:01:27,837 --> 00:01:30,047 is 'cause you were supposed to die yesterday. 25 00:01:30,465 --> 00:01:32,175 He's an asshole, whoever did it. 26 00:01:32,258 --> 00:01:34,968 Obviously, I mean, you got a big-ass hole in your head. 27 00:01:35,053 --> 00:01:37,603 - Fuck yeah, I do. - So, you know what... 28 00:01:38,848 --> 00:01:40,848 Let's try to get a potential killer off the street, 29 00:01:40,934 --> 00:01:41,984 'cause he is a killer. 30 00:01:42,060 --> 00:01:45,310 But if you don't wanna help, that's on you. 31 00:01:45,897 --> 00:01:47,767 Did you tell them who had shot you? 32 00:01:47,857 --> 00:01:49,187 - No. - Why not? 33 00:01:49,776 --> 00:01:51,186 'Cause I didn't wanna tell. 34 00:01:51,277 --> 00:01:53,607 I had... That's not the route I wanted to take. 35 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,120 What do you mean by that? 36 00:01:56,282 --> 00:01:58,372 I didn't wanna tell on Mr. Hernandez. 37 00:01:58,451 --> 00:02:00,581 I didn't wanna inform them that he shot me. 38 00:02:02,205 --> 00:02:04,115 What route did you intend to take? 39 00:02:04,541 --> 00:02:06,291 I wanted revenge. 40 00:02:08,253 --> 00:02:13,633 Alexander Bradley absolutely was capable of killing Aaron Hernandez. 41 00:02:13,716 --> 00:02:14,926 And Aaron Hernandez knew it. 42 00:02:15,009 --> 00:02:18,639 Bradley had guns. He had a crew. 43 00:02:19,264 --> 00:02:23,434 He bragged about the number of guys he'd be able to bring to a fight. 44 00:02:24,227 --> 00:02:26,307 Aaron had reason to fear 45 00:02:26,479 --> 00:02:29,399 getting caught for the 2012 double homicide. 46 00:02:29,482 --> 00:02:31,782 He had reason to fear getting caught 47 00:02:31,860 --> 00:02:34,530 for the shooting of Alexander Bradley in February. 48 00:02:35,029 --> 00:02:38,949 And he had reason to fear Alexander Bradley killing him. 49 00:02:40,910 --> 00:02:42,870 The fight with Alexander Bradley 50 00:02:42,954 --> 00:02:46,044 was the beginning of the end for Aaron. 51 00:02:46,124 --> 00:02:49,294 His whole life started to unravel at that point. 52 00:02:49,377 --> 00:02:51,377 It's his fear of Alexander Bradley 53 00:02:51,462 --> 00:02:55,302 that led to Aaron Hernandez putting up a very extensive surveillance system 54 00:02:55,383 --> 00:02:56,513 in his home. 55 00:02:56,593 --> 00:02:59,103 He went out and literally bought an armored car. 56 00:02:59,721 --> 00:03:01,431 He started to buy guns to defend himself, 57 00:03:01,514 --> 00:03:04,024 and to give to those who were defending him. 58 00:03:05,185 --> 00:03:07,225 He started hanging around Wallace and Ortiz 59 00:03:07,312 --> 00:03:09,232 and have them around him all the time. 60 00:03:09,731 --> 00:03:14,151 Wallace and Ortiz were not his friends of choice at that time. 61 00:03:14,235 --> 00:03:17,235 They were a means to an end. Which was, "Protect me." 62 00:03:17,906 --> 00:03:20,866 Hernandez turned to his agent, Brian Murphy, for help. 63 00:03:21,034 --> 00:03:23,124 He told Murphy someone was threatening to kill him 64 00:03:23,203 --> 00:03:24,953 if he didn't pay him lots of money. 65 00:03:25,622 --> 00:03:27,752 According to Murphy's grand jury testimony, 66 00:03:27,832 --> 00:03:29,792 he knew Hernandez's life was in danger 67 00:03:29,876 --> 00:03:32,546 and that Hernandez had been threatened with extortion. 68 00:03:32,629 --> 00:03:36,509 But at the time, he did not report any of this to law enforcement. 69 00:03:37,133 --> 00:03:40,303 You should just start writing a book 70 00:03:40,386 --> 00:03:41,886 about all the dumb shit you've done. 71 00:03:41,971 --> 00:03:44,811 But the funny dumb shit, not the other dumb shit. 72 00:03:45,058 --> 00:03:47,478 Well, I read a lot. 73 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,270 I love the Harry Potter books. 74 00:03:49,604 --> 00:03:51,404 - You do? - I love them. 75 00:03:51,481 --> 00:03:54,031 Everyone laughs at me, but you know I don't give a fuck. 76 00:03:56,569 --> 00:03:59,409 ...in the game, second in goal. 77 00:03:59,489 --> 00:04:01,529 It's Hernandez! Touchdown! 78 00:04:02,408 --> 00:04:04,868 Aaron Hernandez saved the drive 79 00:04:04,953 --> 00:04:06,623 and scored the touchdown. 80 00:04:07,789 --> 00:04:11,129 Understand how one stupid play, 81 00:04:11,209 --> 00:04:14,379 one stupid penalty, one mistake 82 00:04:15,255 --> 00:04:17,585 ends it for all of us. 83 00:04:18,549 --> 00:04:22,429 We found out that shortly after February of 2013, 84 00:04:22,512 --> 00:04:25,602 Aaron asked Bill Belichick to be traded to a different team. 85 00:04:25,682 --> 00:04:29,022 He indicated he was in fear of certain elements. 86 00:04:29,102 --> 00:04:32,522 In response to that, Coach Belichick said no. 87 00:04:33,189 --> 00:04:38,439 Hernandez was a valuable asset to a multi-billion dollar corporation. 88 00:04:39,237 --> 00:04:41,107 No one raised a red flag. 89 00:04:41,197 --> 00:04:42,987 No one in the Patriots organization 90 00:04:43,074 --> 00:04:46,244 reported to law enforcement any of these meetings. 91 00:04:47,078 --> 00:04:48,998 They suggested that he get another apartment. 92 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:50,750 Something a little more secure. 93 00:04:51,582 --> 00:04:54,422 It just seemed like they didn't wanna ask a lot of questions. 94 00:04:54,502 --> 00:04:57,462 They were happy with what he was doing on the field, and that was enough. 95 00:04:58,298 --> 00:05:00,928 Sometime in April of 2013, 96 00:05:01,009 --> 00:05:03,849 did you know an individual by the name of Kevin Anderson? 97 00:05:03,928 --> 00:05:07,428 Yes. He worked for the New England Patriots, and... 98 00:05:07,849 --> 00:05:11,889 he helps players with any type of... 99 00:05:13,855 --> 00:05:16,765 Anything that they need, um... 100 00:05:17,358 --> 00:05:19,148 to make themselves comfortable. 101 00:05:19,902 --> 00:05:23,782 He contacts me if he has players that need properties. 102 00:05:24,449 --> 00:05:26,529 And the renter of this apartment was? 103 00:05:26,617 --> 00:05:27,987 Aaron Hernandez. 104 00:05:33,041 --> 00:05:34,501 I was sitting here, 105 00:05:34,584 --> 00:05:37,844 and I saw someone I didn't recognize walk up to the door with a key. 106 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,590 So, I said, "Hi, you must be my new neighbor." 107 00:05:41,674 --> 00:05:43,344 He wasn't the least bit friendly. 108 00:05:44,093 --> 00:05:46,683 He just turned and looked at me and... 109 00:05:46,763 --> 00:05:49,433 kind of grunted and went in. 110 00:05:49,515 --> 00:05:51,975 He was dressed in a hoodie. 111 00:05:52,060 --> 00:05:53,480 It was a very warm day, 112 00:05:54,187 --> 00:05:58,187 and no one would be wearing a hooded sweatshirt and sweatpants 113 00:05:58,441 --> 00:06:00,531 unless they didn't want to be recognized. 114 00:06:01,652 --> 00:06:04,492 You know what bothers me, that the NFL 115 00:06:04,739 --> 00:06:09,449 helped him go get an apartment that was secretive somehow. 116 00:06:09,535 --> 00:06:12,285 Now the guy's got a house, why does he need another apartment? 117 00:06:12,372 --> 00:06:14,122 And why are you helping him get it? 118 00:06:14,207 --> 00:06:17,707 Did you think he was gonna be painting Bob Ross pictures over there? 119 00:06:18,419 --> 00:06:22,129 I'm number 11, and he lived in number 12. 120 00:06:22,965 --> 00:06:24,425 We shared a common wall. 121 00:06:25,218 --> 00:06:28,508 Well, first, I smelled the air fresheners, and... 122 00:06:28,596 --> 00:06:32,726 ...then, shortly thereafter, I... 123 00:06:32,809 --> 00:06:36,479 There was a very unpleasant smell in the hallway. 124 00:06:36,562 --> 00:06:39,442 Okay. If you could describe what was that unpleasant smell 125 00:06:39,524 --> 00:06:41,154 that you smelled in the hallway? 126 00:06:41,526 --> 00:06:42,986 To me, it smelled a bit like... 127 00:06:43,069 --> 00:06:46,199 It smelled more like skunk than anything else I could think of. 128 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:51,040 The double life of Aaron Hernandez is never clearer 129 00:06:51,119 --> 00:06:54,959 than when you consider he had a second residence 130 00:06:55,039 --> 00:06:57,379 where he went to chain-smoke marijuana 131 00:06:57,959 --> 00:07:03,799 and escape responsibility as a Patriot and father and fiancé. 132 00:07:04,340 --> 00:07:07,050 There was never a point where I said, 133 00:07:07,135 --> 00:07:10,925 "He's moving towards a life of crime." I mean... 134 00:07:11,305 --> 00:07:15,305 Yeah, was I nervous about the people he was associating with? Of course. 135 00:07:15,935 --> 00:07:20,105 I mean, had it ever hurt him in the past? You know, not really. 136 00:07:21,149 --> 00:07:25,819 I was at his house with Odin Lloyd two weeks before the incident. 137 00:07:27,530 --> 00:07:30,660 That's how shocking this is to me is that everything was fine. 138 00:07:31,576 --> 00:07:33,786 He wasn't as joyful, as happy, 139 00:07:33,870 --> 00:07:36,040 but I attributed that to him getting back from practice 140 00:07:36,122 --> 00:07:38,712 and being pretty tired, and wanting to hang out in the sauna 141 00:07:38,791 --> 00:07:41,541 and wanting to beat DJ at pool a couple times, you know? 142 00:07:49,093 --> 00:07:51,603 And it's not clear, but at some point along the way, 143 00:07:51,679 --> 00:07:52,889 when they were partying, 144 00:07:54,098 --> 00:07:58,308 did Odin learn something or was something said? 145 00:08:00,271 --> 00:08:01,941 He told me that I looked good, 146 00:08:02,023 --> 00:08:04,653 and he asked if I could dance with him. 147 00:08:04,734 --> 00:08:07,364 Then I proceeded to dance with him. I agreed to dance. 148 00:08:10,907 --> 00:08:13,407 All of a sudden, he seemed irritated, 149 00:08:13,493 --> 00:08:15,873 and in the middle of the song, he just abruptly, 150 00:08:15,953 --> 00:08:17,123 like, just took off. 151 00:08:19,081 --> 00:08:22,041 He walked off back towards the DJ booth. 152 00:08:23,794 --> 00:08:25,634 He was just standing and staring. 153 00:08:26,130 --> 00:08:28,880 - What was he staring at? - At Odin. 154 00:08:29,342 --> 00:08:32,012 When you say he was staring, how did he appear to you? 155 00:08:32,094 --> 00:08:34,644 He's just staring angry, looked like he was upset. 156 00:08:35,181 --> 00:08:36,681 And how about his eyes? 157 00:08:37,225 --> 00:08:39,845 His eyes were just beaming directly at Odin. 158 00:08:41,229 --> 00:08:44,649 We come out the club, and Odin was running to try to catch up to him. 159 00:08:46,567 --> 00:08:50,697 At Rumor, witnesses say Aaron suddenly gets angry at Odin. 160 00:08:54,033 --> 00:08:56,703 But prosecutors were never able to say why. 161 00:09:00,998 --> 00:09:02,998 The "why" is the story here. 162 00:09:03,876 --> 00:09:06,706 Why Hernandez would have killed Odin Lloyd. 163 00:09:08,005 --> 00:09:10,045 We can only speculate as to whether 164 00:09:10,132 --> 00:09:14,392 Odin Lloyd knew about Aaron Hernandez's double murder, 165 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,470 or any of the other secrets that he had been keeping. 166 00:09:20,142 --> 00:09:21,852 Just two days later, 167 00:09:22,562 --> 00:09:25,652 Aaron texted him and said, "Let's step out for a little bit." 168 00:09:29,652 --> 00:09:33,322 You took the dog out sometime late in the evening 169 00:09:33,406 --> 00:09:37,156 and saw Bo and Charley Boy preparing to leave, correct? 170 00:09:37,243 --> 00:09:38,243 Yes. 171 00:09:38,327 --> 00:09:41,117 And I think you said they were getting into a silver car? 172 00:09:41,205 --> 00:09:42,075 Correct. 173 00:09:43,124 --> 00:09:46,884 Aaron wants Ernest Wallace and Carlos Ortiz around him that night. 174 00:09:48,212 --> 00:09:53,092 12:22 a.m., Odin Lloyd waiting for Hernandez to come pick him up, 175 00:09:53,426 --> 00:09:56,046 texts Aaron and says, "We still on?" 176 00:10:00,433 --> 00:10:03,393 Look at the nature of this murder. 177 00:10:09,650 --> 00:10:10,990 Car pulls down there. 178 00:10:12,194 --> 00:10:13,114 Nobody's around. 179 00:10:13,321 --> 00:10:16,871 No traffic, it's dark, no eyewitnesses. 180 00:10:18,451 --> 00:10:23,661 This place, a perfect location to commit a homicide. 181 00:10:23,748 --> 00:10:27,878 Four people in the car. Odin Lloyd's in the rear passenger seat. 182 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:29,590 A shot was fired in that car. 183 00:10:30,338 --> 00:10:32,298 Shell casing's under the front seat. 184 00:10:33,007 --> 00:10:35,837 We know Odin Lloyd began to get out of the car. 185 00:10:37,261 --> 00:10:38,761 This defendant's out of the car. 186 00:10:40,264 --> 00:10:42,144 And he plants his footprint. 187 00:10:43,184 --> 00:10:45,314 The next shot being in his arm. 188 00:10:47,688 --> 00:10:52,568 Then the next shot through the clavicle and out the back. 189 00:10:53,653 --> 00:10:54,953 And then as he's ducking down, 190 00:10:55,404 --> 00:10:58,284 the one that is shot from the back of the neck 191 00:10:58,366 --> 00:11:01,736 and runs through... down along his spine. 192 00:11:02,828 --> 00:11:04,208 He's now been disabled. 193 00:11:05,331 --> 00:11:07,121 He's laying on the ground. 194 00:11:07,625 --> 00:11:09,875 There's two final shots that are put into him. 195 00:11:28,938 --> 00:11:31,858 Exactly where the body was was actually very hard, 196 00:11:31,941 --> 00:11:34,821 almost ledge-like, very hard stone. 197 00:11:35,736 --> 00:11:38,316 I don't think there's trees there anymore, but there was a lot. 198 00:11:38,406 --> 00:11:41,276 There were mounds of dirt, lots of grass. 199 00:11:42,076 --> 00:11:45,826 And any sources of lighting? Like, um... 200 00:11:45,913 --> 00:11:47,923 street lamps, or anything in the area-- 201 00:11:47,998 --> 00:11:49,128 No, no. 202 00:11:49,208 --> 00:11:51,088 - Homes nearby? - No. 203 00:11:51,877 --> 00:11:54,337 And in that area, when you got down to the body, 204 00:11:54,422 --> 00:11:56,222 just describe what you saw. 205 00:11:56,298 --> 00:11:59,258 What appeared to me is, bullet wounds to his chest, 206 00:11:59,343 --> 00:12:01,683 and a bullet wound to his right flank. 207 00:12:01,762 --> 00:12:03,262 Blood around it. 208 00:12:03,681 --> 00:12:07,351 There were flies around it, and there were flies around his nose also. 209 00:12:09,437 --> 00:12:12,267 - State your full name? - Ursula Ward. 210 00:12:12,356 --> 00:12:14,396 And are you the mother of Odin Lloyd? 211 00:12:14,483 --> 00:12:15,323 Yes. 212 00:12:15,401 --> 00:12:18,951 And you understand you're to be called as a witness in this case. 213 00:12:19,029 --> 00:12:19,859 Yes. 214 00:12:19,947 --> 00:12:24,027 And did we have a conversation about a picture that I would show you? 215 00:12:24,118 --> 00:12:24,948 Yes. 216 00:12:25,035 --> 00:12:28,955 And do you recall making an identification of your son's body 217 00:12:29,039 --> 00:12:32,379 at the medical examiner's office back in June of 2013? 218 00:12:32,585 --> 00:12:33,415 Yes. 219 00:12:35,671 --> 00:12:39,591 When Ursula Ward was called to the stand, she talked about her son, 220 00:12:39,675 --> 00:12:42,715 and she had been under strict instructions from the judge 221 00:12:42,803 --> 00:12:44,853 that if you show any emotion, 222 00:12:45,473 --> 00:12:47,023 it could prejudice the jury. 223 00:12:47,475 --> 00:12:51,845 You could just see how she was trying to control her emotions 224 00:12:51,937 --> 00:12:53,977 as she spoke about what happened. 225 00:12:54,982 --> 00:12:56,482 You recognize that? 226 00:12:56,567 --> 00:12:58,027 - Yes. - Okay. 227 00:12:58,486 --> 00:13:00,646 - Is that a picture of your son? - Yes. 228 00:13:00,988 --> 00:13:04,198 And when you saw that, that was at the medical examiner's office? 229 00:13:04,283 --> 00:13:05,243 Yes. 230 00:13:09,205 --> 00:13:10,115 Thank you, ma'am. 231 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:12,460 Nothing further, Your Honor. 232 00:13:29,350 --> 00:13:30,270 Hey. 233 00:13:30,851 --> 00:13:31,811 Hey, you. 234 00:13:34,021 --> 00:13:37,731 I don't wanna go back to where we were, so let's just move forward. 235 00:13:39,443 --> 00:13:43,413 You know, I just get so angry 'cause this should've never happened! 236 00:13:43,989 --> 00:13:45,489 No, it'll be okay. 237 00:13:49,411 --> 00:13:52,501 And listening to all that shit, it's like, my God! 238 00:13:54,583 --> 00:13:57,213 All of a sudden, one day, that became big news. 239 00:13:57,294 --> 00:14:03,344 The murder and the fact that the police were investigating Aaron Hernandez, 240 00:14:03,425 --> 00:14:05,585 and that was when I realized, 241 00:14:05,678 --> 00:14:07,428 "He has a mansion. 242 00:14:08,097 --> 00:14:12,307 He has a girlfriend. He has a baby. He lives in a mansion." 243 00:14:15,145 --> 00:14:16,975 It showed him on TV... 244 00:14:17,982 --> 00:14:20,652 you know, being taken out, arrested. 245 00:14:23,279 --> 00:14:25,529 You know, as a possible murderer. 246 00:14:28,075 --> 00:14:31,285 The Hernandez issue, impact on the Patriot organization? 247 00:14:31,370 --> 00:14:36,580 Well, it's one of the saddest things that's happened in my tenure of ownership. 248 00:14:36,709 --> 00:14:40,839 - What did you know about him? - We've said a lot on the issue, 249 00:14:40,921 --> 00:14:46,801 and he was... Everything I ever saw about him was first-class in the building. 250 00:14:49,972 --> 00:14:52,682 Your Honor, if I could call our next witness Robert Kraft. 251 00:14:59,899 --> 00:15:04,109 So when Robert Kraft came to testify at the Odin Lloyd trial, 252 00:15:04,194 --> 00:15:06,534 Aaron Hernandez's worlds collided. 253 00:15:07,197 --> 00:15:12,907 Here was the first time a Patriot or anyone involved with the organization 254 00:15:13,203 --> 00:15:14,913 stepped foot in the courtroom, 255 00:15:14,997 --> 00:15:17,417 and here comes the billionaire owner of the team. 256 00:15:17,499 --> 00:15:20,209 The man who made his dreams come true. 257 00:15:20,294 --> 00:15:25,014 He's outside the double doors, and Hernandez, as soon as he hears that, 258 00:15:25,382 --> 00:15:29,012 he looks over his shoulder six times 259 00:15:29,094 --> 00:15:32,224 before Kraft came in the courtroom. 260 00:15:51,992 --> 00:15:55,082 Kraft was one of the few people with the Patriots organization 261 00:15:55,162 --> 00:15:58,002 that Hernandez was known to have contact with 262 00:15:58,082 --> 00:16:00,582 during the period that he was a suspect. 263 00:16:06,256 --> 00:16:08,216 - Just go right there. - Right this way, sir. 264 00:16:10,719 --> 00:16:12,299 And what do you do for work? 265 00:16:13,555 --> 00:16:14,385 Um... 266 00:16:17,685 --> 00:16:19,765 Whatever they ask me to do. 267 00:16:19,853 --> 00:16:24,023 Did you have an opportunity to have a conversation with the defendant? 268 00:16:24,108 --> 00:16:27,698 I understood there was an incident that had transpired. 269 00:16:27,778 --> 00:16:33,118 Any player who comes into our system, I consider part of our extended family, 270 00:16:33,325 --> 00:16:35,365 and I wanted to get him help. 271 00:16:36,286 --> 00:16:38,906 And what did he say when you had asked him 272 00:16:38,998 --> 00:16:41,288 whether he was involved in this matter? 273 00:16:41,458 --> 00:16:46,878 He said he was not involved, that he was innocent 274 00:16:47,506 --> 00:16:49,926 and that he hoped that 275 00:16:50,676 --> 00:16:54,216 the time of the murder incident came out, 276 00:16:54,763 --> 00:16:57,773 because I believe he said he was in a club. 277 00:16:58,517 --> 00:17:01,097 Robert Kraft was a key witness for the prosecution 278 00:17:01,186 --> 00:17:03,936 because he recalled how Aaron Hernandez said to him, 279 00:17:04,023 --> 00:17:06,783 "You know, I can't wait for the timeline on this to come out 280 00:17:06,859 --> 00:17:09,529 because I was clubbing when all this was going on." 281 00:17:09,611 --> 00:17:12,781 So, he's lying about his whereabouts, and the cameras would show that. 282 00:17:12,865 --> 00:17:17,155 And also, he's saying that he knows what time everything happened. 283 00:17:17,244 --> 00:17:20,874 I remember jurors later on said, "How could you have known the timeline?" 284 00:17:21,123 --> 00:17:23,833 That really helped build the case against him. 285 00:17:24,460 --> 00:17:28,010 Um, when you went to leave, did he say anything else to you? 286 00:17:28,839 --> 00:17:32,719 He hugged and kissed me, and thanked me for my concern. 287 00:17:49,151 --> 00:17:54,361 His attorneys did, in closing, allow that Hernandez 288 00:17:54,448 --> 00:17:56,408 was at the scene of the crime. 289 00:17:57,868 --> 00:18:00,408 And the jurors were somewhat surprised. 290 00:18:01,789 --> 00:18:05,749 They had to digest the stunning 180 during defense closing arguments, 291 00:18:05,834 --> 00:18:08,004 putting Hernandez at the scene of the crime. 292 00:18:08,712 --> 00:18:10,592 He was a 23-year-old kid... 293 00:18:14,968 --> 00:18:16,468 who'd witnessed something. 294 00:18:18,180 --> 00:18:19,600 A shocking killing, 295 00:18:21,809 --> 00:18:23,309 committed by somebody he knew. 296 00:18:26,021 --> 00:18:27,861 He really didn't know what to do. 297 00:18:28,774 --> 00:18:31,824 Hernandez's defense was, "It wasn't me, 298 00:18:31,902 --> 00:18:36,282 it was Ortiz and Wallace, they were the ones that were dangerous." 299 00:18:36,365 --> 00:18:38,905 Aaron was just caught up in it, and he was scared of them 300 00:18:38,992 --> 00:18:40,452 because they were so violent. 301 00:18:41,870 --> 00:18:46,080 The prosecution played a soundless clip 302 00:18:46,166 --> 00:18:48,836 of Hernandez and Carlos Ortiz 303 00:18:48,919 --> 00:18:52,969 and Ernest Wallace the day after. It was just left to play. 304 00:18:59,221 --> 00:19:04,271 If these guys are murderers, if you just watched them kill somebody, 305 00:19:04,351 --> 00:19:08,061 and you fear for your own life, you don't hand them your own baby. 306 00:19:08,147 --> 00:19:11,817 You get in a car and bail out of there as fast as possible. 307 00:19:15,195 --> 00:19:17,355 There was no remorse, there was no concern 308 00:19:17,447 --> 00:19:20,117 on Hernandez's face in those images. 309 00:19:20,409 --> 00:19:23,039 For the jury to absorb that scene, 310 00:19:23,120 --> 00:19:25,830 and to know the heartbreak and humiliation 311 00:19:25,914 --> 00:19:29,004 that Odin Lloyd's family went through, 312 00:19:29,251 --> 00:19:33,881 and to contrast that with the millionaire Patriot 313 00:19:33,964 --> 00:19:37,054 who just went about his life as if nothing happened, 314 00:19:37,134 --> 00:19:39,054 you know, that made it very real. 315 00:19:41,346 --> 00:19:44,846 That would be consistent with somebody that didn't see themselves 316 00:19:44,933 --> 00:19:46,983 as attached to what really happened. 317 00:19:47,060 --> 00:19:51,440 And that certainly is one of the characteristics of a sociopath. 318 00:19:51,940 --> 00:19:55,940 The evidence on that video, that shows you, what is his intent? 319 00:19:56,778 --> 00:20:00,198 Is he, you know, yelling at somebody... You know, "What did you do?" 320 00:20:00,282 --> 00:20:03,162 Grabbing him, shaking him? "You just killed my friend"? 321 00:20:03,493 --> 00:20:04,873 There's none of that. 322 00:20:05,120 --> 00:20:08,580 After serving smoothies and having lunch with them, 323 00:20:08,665 --> 00:20:12,285 and laying around the pool all afternoon and having them play with your baby, 324 00:20:12,586 --> 00:20:13,746 what is he doing? 325 00:20:14,630 --> 00:20:18,010 Fist-pumps, hugs... Does that appear to be somebody 326 00:20:18,091 --> 00:20:21,391 who's upset about what's happened, that his friend 327 00:20:21,470 --> 00:20:23,390 is laying out in a field? 328 00:20:23,472 --> 00:20:25,972 As he's breaking... As his skin begins to slip? 329 00:20:27,309 --> 00:20:28,479 Inconsistent! 330 00:20:29,937 --> 00:20:31,977 If you can push away something 331 00:20:32,064 --> 00:20:34,444 that you're responsible for 332 00:20:34,524 --> 00:20:36,944 and find a way to justify it... 333 00:20:37,736 --> 00:20:41,156 That's not something everybody is capable of doing, 334 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:42,740 and he was very good at it. 335 00:20:42,824 --> 00:20:45,914 I often wondered, "Would there ever be 336 00:20:45,994 --> 00:20:48,294 a point where he would crack 337 00:20:48,372 --> 00:20:50,252 and realize, 'Well, this is it'"? 338 00:20:51,083 --> 00:20:53,003 Well, there's a chance that you, like, you... 339 00:20:53,085 --> 00:20:55,585 Like, they were saying that there's different types of degrees 340 00:20:55,671 --> 00:20:58,131 that some, like... Or they might convict you of one type 341 00:20:58,215 --> 00:20:59,465 that might be better. 342 00:20:59,549 --> 00:21:00,929 DJ, if I get convicted, 343 00:21:01,009 --> 00:21:05,099 there ain't no fucking... I'm getting life in prison with no parole. 344 00:21:05,180 --> 00:21:07,680 There ain't no fucking second degree with me. 345 00:21:07,766 --> 00:21:10,936 If they're convicting me, I'm getting the top of the line. 346 00:21:11,770 --> 00:21:15,400 The jury was out for a week, seven days, 347 00:21:16,441 --> 00:21:18,571 working a full day each time. 348 00:21:19,069 --> 00:21:22,279 And as the old rule goes, the longer it takes, 349 00:21:22,364 --> 00:21:25,204 the better chance you might have of getting an acquittal. 350 00:21:26,118 --> 00:21:27,738 Many people have asked me 351 00:21:27,828 --> 00:21:30,248 do I think the state's got a lock on the case? 352 00:21:31,206 --> 00:21:33,746 Believe it or not, no, I don't. 353 00:21:33,834 --> 00:21:37,384 I believe that there is a mountain of evidence 354 00:21:37,462 --> 00:21:41,762 showing that Hernandez murdered Lloyd. 355 00:21:41,842 --> 00:21:45,222 he's a sports superstar. 356 00:21:46,054 --> 00:21:48,474 Do I have to say OJ Simpson? 357 00:21:51,476 --> 00:21:55,646 There's never a lock on any case, ever. 358 00:21:57,482 --> 00:21:59,742 I've never been in a room with more tension, 359 00:21:59,818 --> 00:22:02,778 you know, when a verdict comes in in a first-degree murder case. 360 00:22:02,863 --> 00:22:04,323 Now you may bring in the jurors. 361 00:22:06,116 --> 00:22:08,696 What is the jury thinking at this point? 362 00:22:11,788 --> 00:22:17,458 Madam Foreperson, on indictment 2013-983-A, 363 00:22:18,045 --> 00:22:20,875 charging the defendant Aaron Hernandez with murder. 364 00:22:21,381 --> 00:22:25,141 What say you, Madam Foreperson? Is the defendant not guilty? 365 00:22:25,218 --> 00:22:29,388 Guilty of murder in the first degree? Or guilty of murder in the second degree? 366 00:22:30,682 --> 00:22:32,892 Guilty of murder in the first degree. 367 00:22:33,769 --> 00:22:37,689 Madam Foreperson, by which theory or theories, 368 00:22:37,773 --> 00:22:42,243 deliberate pre-meditation and/or extreme atrocity or cruelty? 369 00:22:43,403 --> 00:22:45,493 Extreme atrocity or cruelty. 370 00:22:49,785 --> 00:22:51,405 Members of the jury, 371 00:22:51,495 --> 00:22:54,865 I want to thank all of you very, very much 372 00:22:54,956 --> 00:22:59,376 for giving your valuable time to hear and decide this case. 373 00:22:59,461 --> 00:23:05,591 I also understand that it is not easy to sit in judgment of a fellow human being. 374 00:23:09,721 --> 00:23:12,101 I miss my baby boy Odin so much, 375 00:23:12,182 --> 00:23:15,272 but I know I'm gonna see him someday again. 376 00:23:17,062 --> 00:23:19,772 And that is giving me the strength to go on. 377 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,360 I forgive the hands of the people that had a hand in my son's murder... 378 00:23:26,238 --> 00:23:28,778 and I pray and hope that someday, 379 00:23:29,783 --> 00:23:31,993 everyone out there will forgive them also. 380 00:23:36,915 --> 00:23:40,955 I have to commend Ursula, Odin Lloyd's mother, 381 00:23:41,044 --> 00:23:44,464 because of the power she carried. 382 00:23:46,383 --> 00:23:52,143 Because I know I could never do that. If that was my son, or my daughter, 383 00:23:52,222 --> 00:23:55,312 I could never do that because the anger would just... 384 00:23:55,392 --> 00:23:59,652 And I remember seeing her talk a bunch of times, 385 00:23:59,729 --> 00:24:05,649 and just the way she carried and presented herself was amazing to me. 386 00:24:11,950 --> 00:24:13,910 Convicted killer Aaron Hernandez 387 00:24:13,994 --> 00:24:16,254 beginning his life sentence in Walpole. 388 00:24:16,329 --> 00:24:19,959 Soon, the former Patriots star will be transferred to his permanent home, 389 00:24:20,041 --> 00:24:24,251 the Souza-Baranowski Correctional Center in Shirley, Massachusetts. 390 00:24:26,381 --> 00:24:31,641 As he sits behind bars, Hernandez will be preparing to face two more murder charges. 391 00:24:33,805 --> 00:24:38,305 I was in Shirley Max for I think probably six or seven years 392 00:24:38,393 --> 00:24:41,193 for, um, drug trafficking. 393 00:24:42,481 --> 00:24:44,111 The prison's built so if there's an issue, 394 00:24:44,191 --> 00:24:46,861 they can lock the whole place down, like, instantly. 395 00:24:46,943 --> 00:24:50,663 There's all these major doors, everything's controlled by computer. 396 00:24:50,739 --> 00:24:55,409 The fences outside are, like, electrified. 397 00:24:56,077 --> 00:25:00,417 I've seen so many, so many fights. 398 00:25:02,083 --> 00:25:05,963 I was telling Aaron how... What to expect when he got up there 399 00:25:06,046 --> 00:25:11,126 and who to hang out with and which side of the prison to try to go on to. 400 00:25:13,929 --> 00:25:17,929 So, um, I gotta tell you something before you hear it from anybody else. 401 00:25:18,767 --> 00:25:19,597 What? 402 00:25:19,684 --> 00:25:20,694 Um... 403 00:25:21,353 --> 00:25:27,193 Tanya's going to get a biopsy on Thursday. Her cancer grew. 404 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:28,360 Yeah. 405 00:25:28,443 --> 00:25:31,913 It's in her... The one in her chest grew, the one... Well, they all grew. 406 00:25:31,988 --> 00:25:35,408 The one in her liver, the one in her chest and the one in her lungs grew. 407 00:25:36,618 --> 00:25:38,998 Um, what's it called... It's in God's hands, you know? 408 00:25:39,079 --> 00:25:42,169 And God's gonna make her okay. We just gotta keep the faith 409 00:25:42,749 --> 00:25:46,089 and keep praying and, you know, they're gonna find 410 00:25:46,169 --> 00:25:48,299 the right course of treatment to help her. 411 00:25:48,964 --> 00:25:51,054 Yeah. Is she nervous? 412 00:25:51,925 --> 00:25:54,545 Yeah, a little bit, but she's gonna be fine. 413 00:25:56,263 --> 00:26:00,563 In October 2015, Tanya Singleton passed away 414 00:26:00,642 --> 00:26:03,102 in a bed that was set up in her living room. 415 00:26:07,649 --> 00:26:09,859 I ain't even trying to think about all that. 416 00:26:09,943 --> 00:26:13,153 I'm just taking it minute by minute, you know? 417 00:26:13,238 --> 00:26:16,868 I want you to be okay, to have a clear head 418 00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:20,540 and not to do anything stupid. I just want you to know 419 00:26:20,620 --> 00:26:23,120 that I'm here for you, and I'm always gonna be here for you, 420 00:26:23,206 --> 00:26:28,916 no matter what anybody else is doing. So I've always been here for you, 421 00:26:29,004 --> 00:26:31,804 and I'll always be here. I'll always come to visit you, 422 00:26:31,881 --> 00:26:34,761 and I'm always gonna talk to you. 423 00:26:35,510 --> 00:26:38,220 So I just don't want you to think that you're in this alone... 424 00:26:39,389 --> 00:26:42,179 Because I'm always gonna be here no matter what, 425 00:26:42,267 --> 00:26:44,727 and no matter how long it takes. 426 00:26:46,521 --> 00:26:49,901 I think after the Odin Lloyd conviction, 427 00:26:49,983 --> 00:26:52,153 he had a little bit of a downward spiral. 428 00:26:52,944 --> 00:26:56,744 He had told me that he got that tattoo, the "lifetime" tattoo, 429 00:26:56,823 --> 00:27:02,253 on his neck afterwards, and he had just resorted to surviving in prison 430 00:27:02,329 --> 00:27:07,289 and just saying, you know, "Fuck all this, I'm here for life." And then, 431 00:27:07,542 --> 00:27:13,342 um, I think Shayanna and Avielle reinvigorated him, 432 00:27:13,548 --> 00:27:16,468 and he decided he was gonna fight. 433 00:27:20,180 --> 00:27:24,310 After two years of serving at the Shirley maximum security prison, 434 00:27:24,392 --> 00:27:27,102 Aaron Hernandez is brought back into the courtroom 435 00:27:27,187 --> 00:27:30,067 under the charges of two homicides in Boston. 436 00:27:31,900 --> 00:27:35,650 Initially, he did want me for the Odin Lloyd appeal. 437 00:27:35,737 --> 00:27:37,697 After a few minutes of sitting with him 438 00:27:37,781 --> 00:27:39,661 and finding out that this Boston case 439 00:27:39,741 --> 00:27:41,331 was right around the corner, 440 00:27:41,951 --> 00:27:45,121 I said to him, "Listen, more than happy to look at your appeal, 441 00:27:45,205 --> 00:27:49,955 but the problem is if you lose this case, might as well just pack it up and go home 442 00:27:50,043 --> 00:27:51,503 because that appeal means nothing." 443 00:27:52,212 --> 00:27:55,512 It finally hit him, this is for all the marbles. 444 00:27:55,590 --> 00:27:57,630 The Boston case was now everything. 445 00:27:59,052 --> 00:28:01,552 First week of his double-murder trial, 446 00:28:01,638 --> 00:28:04,348 only his fiancée showed up to support him. 447 00:28:04,432 --> 00:28:07,482 Mom isn't here, his brother isn't here, 448 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,690 none of his friends are here, none of his old coaches are here. 449 00:28:11,731 --> 00:28:14,361 He told me that they came for the first trial, 450 00:28:14,442 --> 00:28:17,782 and he felt that once he got convicted, that everybody just 451 00:28:18,613 --> 00:28:21,623 disappeared because hope was gone. 452 00:28:23,451 --> 00:28:25,451 There were low stakes in the second trial. 453 00:28:25,537 --> 00:28:27,577 He's already convicted of life. 454 00:28:27,664 --> 00:28:30,254 People thought he was going to get convicted again. 455 00:28:30,959 --> 00:28:32,999 There certainly remained a fascination 456 00:28:33,086 --> 00:28:36,256 with Aaron Hernandez in Boston, but nationally, 457 00:28:36,339 --> 00:28:39,839 once you lose the stakes of "he could walk out free," 458 00:28:39,926 --> 00:28:42,046 there's gonna be less news interest in him. 459 00:28:44,764 --> 00:28:46,524 It has been five years 460 00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:50,190 since Safiro Furtado and Daniel de Abreu were gunned down 461 00:28:50,270 --> 00:28:51,560 in cold blood. 462 00:28:53,481 --> 00:28:56,031 Their lives matter in this room as well. 463 00:28:57,819 --> 00:29:01,029 Aaron's famous. Aaron's catching touchdowns in the Super Bowl. 464 00:29:01,114 --> 00:29:03,034 Who are these other guys? We don't even know. 465 00:29:03,241 --> 00:29:04,621 Nobody knows their names. 466 00:29:04,909 --> 00:29:06,579 Um, they're not from America. 467 00:29:08,163 --> 00:29:09,873 Ma'am, I'm gonna show you a photograph 468 00:29:09,956 --> 00:29:11,706 and ask you to look at the photograph 469 00:29:11,791 --> 00:29:14,841 and tell us if you recognize the person in that photograph. 470 00:29:23,511 --> 00:29:25,511 Of course, it's my brother. 471 00:29:27,724 --> 00:29:32,194 I met those families. The mothers, the brothers, the cousins. 472 00:29:32,270 --> 00:29:37,280 Tight-knit immigrant families, had come to this country seeking a better life, 473 00:29:37,734 --> 00:29:42,744 and then to have one of their own murdered in a senseless act, 474 00:29:42,822 --> 00:29:46,332 just a sad, terrible tragedy. 475 00:29:48,161 --> 00:29:51,041 The story is not just the Aaron Hernandez story. 476 00:29:51,122 --> 00:29:53,462 There's a lot of lives affected by this guy. 477 00:29:55,001 --> 00:29:58,091 Their whole family was there. And when I say their whole family, 478 00:29:58,171 --> 00:30:02,341 they took up two, three rows of people there every day. 479 00:30:03,134 --> 00:30:07,514 How could I convince the jury to care about Aaron 480 00:30:07,597 --> 00:30:09,307 when his own family doesn't? 481 00:30:10,850 --> 00:30:13,060 The jury selection was extremely hard. 482 00:30:13,686 --> 00:30:16,436 After months and months of working and build-up, 483 00:30:16,523 --> 00:30:20,943 we were finally getting ready to start. And just as we walked in, 484 00:30:21,027 --> 00:30:26,277 some woman just blurted out, "My god, he's gorgeous." 485 00:30:28,451 --> 00:30:32,911 So I thought in there, I said, "You know, I think we need more women on the jury." 486 00:30:35,250 --> 00:30:38,800 The first time I thought Aaron Hernandez could gain a not-guilty verdict 487 00:30:38,878 --> 00:30:40,798 was when Jose Baez took the case. 488 00:30:41,673 --> 00:30:45,133 Jose Baez is a tremendous lawyer. 489 00:30:45,510 --> 00:30:48,810 Now Aaron Hernandez was being represented 490 00:30:48,888 --> 00:30:53,228 by someone who arguably could be called a celebrity attorney. 491 00:30:53,309 --> 00:30:57,359 Jose Baez, who had very famously represented Casey Anthony, 492 00:30:57,438 --> 00:31:01,068 a woman who was accused of murdering her daughter. 493 00:31:01,150 --> 00:31:04,240 To the shock of a lot of people across the country, 494 00:31:04,821 --> 00:31:08,321 she was acquitted of that. So the question became 495 00:31:08,867 --> 00:31:13,247 could Jose Baez do the same thing for Aaron Hernandez? 496 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:18,460 Our biggest problem going into it was how do you 497 00:31:18,543 --> 00:31:22,463 convince 12 people that the convicted murderer 498 00:31:22,547 --> 00:31:24,507 sitting over there didn't do these two? 499 00:31:26,217 --> 00:31:29,137 Sometimes you want something so badly 500 00:31:29,804 --> 00:31:32,274 that you're willing to make a deal with the devil. 501 00:31:32,807 --> 00:31:35,477 That is exactly what the Commonwealth did in this case 502 00:31:35,602 --> 00:31:38,352 when it made a deal with the killer 503 00:31:38,897 --> 00:31:43,647 of Safiro Furtado and Daniel de Abreu, who is Alexander Bradley. 504 00:31:48,156 --> 00:31:50,736 Alexander Bradley was no angel. 505 00:31:50,825 --> 00:31:54,075 He's a guy who had trouble with drugs, with guns... 506 00:31:54,162 --> 00:31:55,502 He had a past. 507 00:31:56,414 --> 00:31:59,294 That guy is probably 508 00:32:00,001 --> 00:32:02,751 the toughest person I've ever seen, 509 00:32:02,837 --> 00:32:06,167 and I knew he was going to be a difficult witness to cross-examine. 510 00:32:06,674 --> 00:32:10,644 Mr. Hernandez was upset. He turned in a manner 511 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,970 in which he was going to make a confrontation out of the issue. 512 00:32:14,057 --> 00:32:17,847 So upset that he's gonna still wait another hour to kill some people 513 00:32:17,936 --> 00:32:22,436 - over a spilled drink. Right? - Yes. 514 00:32:23,066 --> 00:32:28,696 What transpired down in the Cure Lounge is the foundation of this case. 515 00:32:29,530 --> 00:32:33,280 Well, the truth was with this man, and it wasn't that hard to find. 516 00:32:34,077 --> 00:32:38,287 There was a photograph of him that they kept from you. 517 00:32:38,915 --> 00:32:41,875 Did you see Mr. Hernandez again that night? 518 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,380 - Yes, I did, sir. - What did you say? 519 00:32:44,462 --> 00:32:47,842 - "Thanks for the picture." - What did he say? 520 00:32:47,924 --> 00:32:49,434 "No problem, have a good night." 521 00:32:49,509 --> 00:32:52,009 - Did he seem angry? - Not at all, sir. 522 00:32:52,095 --> 00:32:53,925 - Did he seem upset? - No. 523 00:32:54,013 --> 00:32:55,103 - Furious? - No. 524 00:32:55,181 --> 00:32:56,601 - Enraged? - No, sir. 525 00:32:57,308 --> 00:33:01,228 Not as Alexander Bradley told you. Not when he told you, 526 00:33:01,312 --> 00:33:04,112 "I had to grab him and take him out of the bar, 527 00:33:04,190 --> 00:33:05,610 'cause he was going to kill him!" 528 00:33:05,692 --> 00:33:08,072 This is Aaron's angry face and Bradley's all, 529 00:33:08,152 --> 00:33:10,362 "Yeah, he was mad." 530 00:33:11,239 --> 00:33:12,569 That's absurd. 531 00:33:13,366 --> 00:33:18,406 It flies in the face of reality. It's an absolute lie. 532 00:33:19,914 --> 00:33:23,424 The cross-examination of Alexander Bradley was really a sight to see. 533 00:33:23,501 --> 00:33:26,211 You had a real battle going on. 534 00:33:26,295 --> 00:33:30,675 And you're threatening to ruin Aaron's life. 535 00:33:32,093 --> 00:33:35,643 I don't believe I threatened to ruin his life. I may have. 536 00:33:36,931 --> 00:33:39,681 I knew I had an uphill battle because he had been powerful. 537 00:33:39,767 --> 00:33:41,977 Let's not lose sight of the fact he wants this to be 538 00:33:42,061 --> 00:33:45,821 all about Alexander Bradley and that he was the real killer. 539 00:33:46,858 --> 00:33:49,528 You now know without any doubt 540 00:33:49,610 --> 00:33:54,160 that the murder car was a silver 4Runner with Rhode Island plates. 541 00:33:54,741 --> 00:33:56,201 Where's that car found? 542 00:33:56,909 --> 00:34:00,249 Is that murder car found at Alexander Bradley's cousin's house? 543 00:34:00,329 --> 00:34:05,499 No. That murder car is found stuffed away in the garage of the house 544 00:34:05,585 --> 00:34:07,915 of a relative who he trusts more than anybody. 545 00:34:08,004 --> 00:34:11,514 The murder weapon is linked to Aaron Hernandez. 546 00:34:11,674 --> 00:34:14,264 The murder car is linked to Aaron Hernandez. 547 00:34:14,552 --> 00:34:19,312 There is no link to any of these people to Alexander Bradley. 548 00:34:21,100 --> 00:34:26,690 I wanna direct your attention, Mr. Nelson, to late March of 2013. 549 00:34:27,273 --> 00:34:29,073 What tattoos do you recall 550 00:34:29,150 --> 00:34:31,490 providing for Mr. Hernandez that day? 551 00:34:31,569 --> 00:34:35,449 Two front views of a semi-automatic handgun, 552 00:34:35,531 --> 00:34:39,791 and a spent shell casing with a little smoke coming out of it. 553 00:34:40,286 --> 00:34:47,036 And a cylinder from a revolver with five out of the six bullets remaining. 554 00:34:48,628 --> 00:34:52,418 On his arm, he wanted "God Forgives" backwards. 555 00:34:53,216 --> 00:34:57,096 What is he asking God to forgive? Right above and below. 556 00:34:57,678 --> 00:35:00,308 The shooting of Alexander Bradley above, 557 00:35:01,057 --> 00:35:03,887 the murders of July 2012 below. 558 00:35:05,436 --> 00:35:06,516 That is a confession. 559 00:35:07,063 --> 00:35:08,313 But this is not a church, 560 00:35:08,397 --> 00:35:09,607 this is a courtroom. 561 00:35:09,690 --> 00:35:12,440 What matters in this room is the truth. 562 00:35:12,527 --> 00:35:15,197 They don't want you to base your decision on evidence, 563 00:35:15,279 --> 00:35:17,199 they want you to base it on prejudice. 564 00:35:17,281 --> 00:35:20,121 "Look at how he's a bad guy, look at his tattoos!" 565 00:35:22,453 --> 00:35:24,873 The lies carry you all the way to Florida. 566 00:35:25,915 --> 00:35:29,205 Alexander Bradley is telling he was shot inside of a car, 567 00:35:30,670 --> 00:35:33,760 and these guys tell you they hear one shot. 568 00:35:34,674 --> 00:35:37,554 It's loud, it's not muffled. 569 00:35:37,635 --> 00:35:39,795 He didn't get shot inside of a car. 570 00:35:41,264 --> 00:35:46,144 And Aaron was telling us that there was a drug deal going on, and it went bad. 571 00:35:48,062 --> 00:35:50,192 The blood doesn't lie. 572 00:35:50,940 --> 00:35:54,440 And he was pissed at Aaron for vouching for these guys. 573 00:35:55,987 --> 00:36:00,907 Mr. Bradley does have a dog in this fight. It's the deal of a lifetime. 574 00:36:00,992 --> 00:36:04,202 He's either there, or sitting right there, 575 00:36:04,912 --> 00:36:07,332 and that's a big incentive. 576 00:36:09,041 --> 00:36:10,381 And this is the time 577 00:36:10,459 --> 00:36:12,209 you jump off the Bradley bandwagon. 578 00:36:14,380 --> 00:36:16,340 Can you read that final part? 579 00:36:16,549 --> 00:36:20,259 "After I tell the court the truth about me not recalling anything 580 00:36:20,344 --> 00:36:22,104 about who shot me." 581 00:36:22,180 --> 00:36:26,430 That text where Alexander Bradley suggests he doesn't quite recall 582 00:36:26,517 --> 00:36:29,347 who shot him in the face was gold for Jose Baez. 583 00:36:29,437 --> 00:36:33,397 The prosecution tried to explain it away, but it was just that little bit 584 00:36:33,482 --> 00:36:36,862 that helped see the doubt that maybe Bradley's not telling the truth here. 585 00:36:38,279 --> 00:36:41,489 Like the first trial, there's a lack of motive. 586 00:36:41,574 --> 00:36:45,374 Never made much sense. Why would a guy get so enraged 587 00:36:45,453 --> 00:36:49,123 at a drink getting spilled on him that he would go out and shoot up a car? 588 00:36:49,874 --> 00:36:54,844 That's a big leap, even when you're putting on trial a convicted felon. 589 00:36:55,796 --> 00:36:58,006 I hated that motive. I still hate that motive, 590 00:36:58,090 --> 00:37:01,300 and it's only when you truly understand who Aaron Hernandez was that 591 00:37:01,385 --> 00:37:03,175 that motive will ever make sense. 592 00:37:03,262 --> 00:37:06,932 I got involved in the Hernandez case pretty early on. 593 00:37:07,016 --> 00:37:09,346 One of the principal problems with the case 594 00:37:10,019 --> 00:37:11,979 is that they had a terribly weak motive. 595 00:37:12,063 --> 00:37:17,573 And, so, to try to create a reason, 596 00:37:17,652 --> 00:37:20,612 the government wanted to use the argument 597 00:37:20,696 --> 00:37:25,026 that Aaron was a closeted gay man 598 00:37:25,117 --> 00:37:30,497 who lived in an extraordinarily homophobic world of sports, 599 00:37:31,374 --> 00:37:37,514 and that that conflict made him strike out in anger against people. 600 00:37:38,714 --> 00:37:42,894 We became aware of a penpal or a phone-pal 601 00:37:42,969 --> 00:37:47,929 that Mr. Hernandez had where he made statements about being angry all the time, 602 00:37:48,015 --> 00:37:52,555 and he tied his anger to certain things that were going on internally. 603 00:37:53,604 --> 00:37:58,734 We had been advised that the prosecution intended to call someone 604 00:37:58,818 --> 00:38:03,028 who would testify about Aaron's sexuality. 605 00:38:04,198 --> 00:38:07,488 It caused a difficult situation that Jose dealt with, 606 00:38:07,576 --> 00:38:10,496 which was to sit down and talk to Shay. 607 00:38:10,997 --> 00:38:13,117 I don't know where this came from. 608 00:38:13,207 --> 00:38:15,837 It's embarrassing in a sense. 609 00:38:15,918 --> 00:38:19,208 It's hurtful, regardless if it's true or not. 610 00:38:19,463 --> 00:38:23,183 It's not something that I believe, and it's just not him. 611 00:38:24,051 --> 00:38:26,641 So we're hoping to get the judge to give us 612 00:38:26,721 --> 00:38:28,851 some type of compromise where we wouldn't necessarily 613 00:38:28,931 --> 00:38:34,191 have to turn this into a salacious trial, but at least we would have some context, 614 00:38:34,270 --> 00:38:38,650 not about his sexuality, but more of his own statement that he's angry all the time 615 00:38:38,733 --> 00:38:40,613 because of things that have happened to him. 616 00:38:41,110 --> 00:38:46,620 As a gay man myself, the next day I went to the courtroom, and I argued 617 00:38:46,699 --> 00:38:49,039 against this really discredited approach. 618 00:38:50,077 --> 00:38:52,827 They knew they were wrong, and they tried it, 619 00:38:54,498 --> 00:38:56,708 and ultimately, they backed down. 620 00:38:57,501 --> 00:39:01,051 But probably appropriately so, the court ruled you... I can't do that. 621 00:39:01,130 --> 00:39:03,840 You know, you would either have to put in everything or nothing. 622 00:39:05,968 --> 00:39:10,138 We did have some conversations in the holding cell. 623 00:39:10,222 --> 00:39:15,392 One that sticks in my mind the most, and I felt really sad for the guy, 624 00:39:15,478 --> 00:39:20,978 Aaron asked me if I felt or believed that someone was born gay. 625 00:39:21,776 --> 00:39:24,146 I said, "I do believe that." 626 00:39:25,529 --> 00:39:30,369 Growing up in our household, my father was extremely narrow-minded. 627 00:39:31,535 --> 00:39:34,705 Especially when it came to sexuality. 628 00:39:35,081 --> 00:39:36,791 He had his definition of a man, 629 00:39:37,416 --> 00:39:42,166 which can be very intimidating for a child, you know, when my brother 630 00:39:42,254 --> 00:39:45,424 has all these questions going on about his sexuality. 631 00:39:46,467 --> 00:39:48,837 - Can I read from the book? - Sure. 632 00:39:48,928 --> 00:39:51,138 It stood out because it describes an incident 633 00:39:51,263 --> 00:39:55,023 with a teenage boy who was at your babysitter's house, 634 00:39:55,101 --> 00:39:58,271 when you guys were younger, and this is a game of hide and seek. 635 00:39:58,396 --> 00:40:01,396 So you go off and you hide, and for five, ten, 15 minutes, 636 00:40:01,482 --> 00:40:04,742 "I remained in this dark closet," where you were hiding, "annoyed. 637 00:40:04,819 --> 00:40:07,069 I didn't understand why no one came looking for me. 638 00:40:07,154 --> 00:40:10,324 I found out much later, when Aaron was in prison, 639 00:40:10,616 --> 00:40:12,906 that the older boy who had been in this household 640 00:40:12,993 --> 00:40:15,873 had actually forced Aaron into the tent." 641 00:40:16,497 --> 00:40:18,917 Do you think Aaron was sexually abused? 642 00:40:18,999 --> 00:40:20,329 I know he was. 643 00:40:22,628 --> 00:40:25,008 Aaron had a belief 644 00:40:25,089 --> 00:40:29,469 that his abuse as a child impacted his sexuality. 645 00:40:30,136 --> 00:40:33,466 That was one of the things that he held onto 646 00:40:33,556 --> 00:40:39,976 as to why he's, in his mind, has this aberrant behavior. 647 00:40:42,690 --> 00:40:43,610 All rise. 648 00:40:54,243 --> 00:40:55,833 What say you, Madam Foreperson? 649 00:40:55,911 --> 00:40:59,461 Charging murder in the first degree, victim Daniel de Abreu. 650 00:40:59,540 --> 00:41:03,170 You find the defendant not guilty, guilty of murder in the first degree, 651 00:41:03,252 --> 00:41:05,342 or guilty of murder in the second degree? 652 00:41:05,963 --> 00:41:07,213 Not guilty. 653 00:41:09,592 --> 00:41:13,392 Charging murder in the first degree, victim Safiro Furtado. 654 00:41:13,471 --> 00:41:17,061 You find the defendant not guilty, guilty of murder in the first degree, 655 00:41:17,141 --> 00:41:19,231 or guilty of murder in the second degree? 656 00:41:19,393 --> 00:41:20,603 Not guilty. 657 00:41:26,650 --> 00:41:30,030 I don't know whether he was reacting 658 00:41:30,112 --> 00:41:32,872 just from the pressure of it all ending, 659 00:41:32,948 --> 00:41:35,028 or that somebody finally believed him. 660 00:41:35,201 --> 00:41:38,081 He'd gone a lot of years without any victories. 661 00:41:38,162 --> 00:41:42,672 He had gone a lot of years without anybody cheering him or believing him. 662 00:41:46,754 --> 00:41:49,724 Later on that day, Aaron called me and we... 663 00:41:50,341 --> 00:41:54,181 We rejoiced together, and he was so excited, so happy, 664 00:41:54,261 --> 00:41:57,391 so looking forward to his future. And he was talking 665 00:41:57,473 --> 00:42:03,233 about things he wants to do, talking about getting out one day, 666 00:42:03,312 --> 00:42:05,232 talking about his appeal... 667 00:42:06,690 --> 00:42:09,940 And... he was ready. He was ready to go. 668 00:42:13,113 --> 00:42:16,783 This rumor, this Aaron Hernandez rumor... 669 00:42:16,867 --> 00:42:19,447 It is big. 670 00:42:21,038 --> 00:42:24,248 In the context of the trials, we never described Aaron Hernandez's sexuality. 671 00:42:24,333 --> 00:42:28,133 They were just rumors at that point and, you know, you don't out somebody 672 00:42:28,212 --> 00:42:31,012 for the sake of outing them. Just because it's salacious and interesting 673 00:42:31,090 --> 00:42:33,800 is not enough to do something like that to somebody. 674 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,390 But what ended up happening was that another reporter did out him, 675 00:42:38,472 --> 00:42:41,352 and also tried to connect it to Odin Lloyd. 676 00:42:42,184 --> 00:42:47,064 Michele, knows the real motive for the murder of Odin Lloyd. 677 00:42:48,023 --> 00:42:51,193 And let's just say that Odin Lloyd caught Aaron Hernandez 678 00:42:51,277 --> 00:42:53,277 in a compromising position, yes. 679 00:42:53,362 --> 00:42:55,492 Let's just say that Aaron Hernandez 680 00:42:55,573 --> 00:42:58,873 was a former tight end before he was kicked off the Patriots. Yes. 681 00:42:58,951 --> 00:43:01,581 - On and off the field? - Yes. 682 00:43:01,662 --> 00:43:03,872 And then he became a wide receiver? 683 00:43:04,999 --> 00:43:07,919 My sources, what I've been told, is that there is absolutely no evidence 684 00:43:08,002 --> 00:43:09,632 that that's why Odin Lloyd died. 685 00:43:09,712 --> 00:43:14,842 But we also wanted to show that the way that this had come out was problematic. 686 00:43:14,925 --> 00:43:19,305 That, you know, a man's sexuality being discussed on the radio 687 00:43:19,388 --> 00:43:23,388 in pretty crude terms was insensitive, no matter who the person was 688 00:43:23,475 --> 00:43:26,645 and what they might have done, this is something that, you know, um, 689 00:43:26,729 --> 00:43:28,189 is just a big no-no in media. 690 00:43:34,278 --> 00:43:36,988 At the time, I was living at my father's house. 691 00:43:37,781 --> 00:43:42,081 I woke up in the morning to screaming, and it was my father screaming, 692 00:43:42,161 --> 00:43:46,461 and he opened the door and said, "Aaron just hung himself." 693 00:43:46,540 --> 00:43:50,710 And some news just breaking as we come on the air, former NFL star 694 00:43:50,794 --> 00:43:54,264 Aaron Hernandez found dead in his prison cell overnight. 695 00:43:54,340 --> 00:43:55,840 Apparently, he killed himself. 696 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,350 Medical personnel attempted to perform life-saving techniques. 697 00:44:05,434 --> 00:44:09,484 They transported Hernandez to the hospital where he was pronounced dead 698 00:44:09,563 --> 00:44:11,773 just after 4:00 a.m. this morning. 699 00:44:16,612 --> 00:44:22,582 I was as shocked as anyone, and because I had just spoken to him hours earlier, 700 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,410 and he was so happy and so ecstatic. 701 00:44:26,163 --> 00:44:28,373 He was an eternal optimist. 702 00:44:28,457 --> 00:44:33,337 It's very hard for me to accept the fact that he may have committed suicide. 703 00:44:33,420 --> 00:44:36,340 - We are keeping an open mind. - It doesn't sound like him? 704 00:44:36,423 --> 00:44:37,473 Not the Aaron that I know. 705 00:44:38,217 --> 00:44:40,177 Hernandez's death comes the same day 706 00:44:40,260 --> 00:44:42,140 the Patriots head to the White House. 707 00:44:44,515 --> 00:44:48,345 A spokesperson for the Patriots said they would not be commenting today 708 00:44:48,435 --> 00:44:50,145 on Hernandez's death. 709 00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:01,120 So he spoke to Shayanna Jenkins, his fiancée, that evening 710 00:45:01,198 --> 00:45:06,868 before he went into his cell. There was your traditional "lights out." 711 00:45:06,954 --> 00:45:09,334 She didn't notice anything different in his tone. 712 00:45:09,915 --> 00:45:11,785 The protocol at the prison requires 713 00:45:11,875 --> 00:45:15,165 correction officers to make hourly rounds at the facility. 714 00:45:15,254 --> 00:45:17,974 And while there was no video inside the cell itself, 715 00:45:18,048 --> 00:45:21,258 in the general area of the block, detectives will be able to see 716 00:45:21,343 --> 00:45:25,183 what was going on in the hours leading up to discovering Hernandez. 717 00:45:25,639 --> 00:45:30,019 I know Aaron was into the K2. It's like a synthetic marijuana. 718 00:45:31,353 --> 00:45:34,613 Sources said Hernandez was smoking synthetic marijuana 719 00:45:34,690 --> 00:45:36,820 the night before he committed suicide. 720 00:45:37,776 --> 00:45:40,146 These are the photos of the Bible investigators found 721 00:45:40,237 --> 00:45:41,817 in Aaron Hernandez's cell. 722 00:45:42,322 --> 00:45:45,532 Officials say he was found with the Bible verse John 3:16, 723 00:45:45,617 --> 00:45:50,207 a reference to eternal life through Jesus, written across his forehead. 724 00:46:05,804 --> 00:46:08,394 Some brothers were even saying like... 725 00:46:10,267 --> 00:46:12,347 "Hey, I feel sorry for the dude." 726 00:46:13,437 --> 00:46:15,807 And that's when I started looking at it like, yo, 727 00:46:15,898 --> 00:46:18,648 at the end of the day, he's human, too. We all make mistakes. 728 00:46:18,734 --> 00:46:23,284 Will I always have resentment for the man? Hell yes. Hell yes. 729 00:46:24,698 --> 00:46:26,618 My heart goes out to his family, 730 00:46:26,825 --> 00:46:31,205 his four-year-old daughter, his mom, his loved ones. 731 00:46:31,288 --> 00:46:34,168 But it especially goes out to the Odin Lloyd family 732 00:46:34,249 --> 00:46:36,879 because they don't get to see him anymore. 733 00:46:37,753 --> 00:46:40,593 I'm just going to make it very, very clear: 734 00:46:41,715 --> 00:46:43,925 Aaron Hernandez gets no sympathy from me. 735 00:46:44,843 --> 00:46:46,183 He had his mind set up. 736 00:46:46,261 --> 00:46:48,391 I think when we saw him in the courthouse, 737 00:46:48,806 --> 00:46:51,226 you know, just looking at his daughter that way, 738 00:46:51,892 --> 00:46:54,602 it was like the saddest thing I've seen in a long time. 739 00:46:55,020 --> 00:46:56,860 And I know a lot of people don't like him. 740 00:46:56,939 --> 00:46:59,899 I know a lot of people think he's a murderer and everything else, but... 741 00:46:59,983 --> 00:47:01,323 that breaks your heart. 742 00:47:01,902 --> 00:47:04,992 He knew that that was the last time he'd be seeing her. 743 00:47:06,114 --> 00:47:07,954 I mean, he didn't show any emotion at all 744 00:47:08,033 --> 00:47:10,453 when they said, "You're going away forever." 745 00:47:10,536 --> 00:47:11,946 But when he gets off... 746 00:47:13,497 --> 00:47:14,917 Either that or I was thinking, 747 00:47:14,998 --> 00:47:18,748 "Jesus, I should've hired Baez for the first trial." 748 00:47:18,836 --> 00:47:23,876 But that's the only two things I can think of that were going through his head. 749 00:47:23,966 --> 00:47:27,926 You started to wonder why would he have taken his own life? 750 00:47:28,720 --> 00:47:31,640 One thing we learned that there were three letters that he left behind. 751 00:47:31,723 --> 00:47:36,603 A letter left to his fiancée, one to his daughter and one to his lawyer. 752 00:47:37,813 --> 00:47:42,653 The suicide note to Shayanna says, "You're rich," and it's underlined. 753 00:47:43,694 --> 00:47:46,574 Some thorny legal questions remain. 754 00:47:46,655 --> 00:47:49,615 Another inmate told investigators Hernandez mentioned 755 00:47:49,700 --> 00:47:52,410 that if you die in prison and you have an open case, 756 00:47:52,494 --> 00:47:54,754 your case gets thrown out. 757 00:47:55,330 --> 00:47:57,670 Previously, the most famous inmate at Shirley Max 758 00:47:58,166 --> 00:48:01,246 was a Catholic priest who had been convicted 759 00:48:01,336 --> 00:48:03,666 of sexually assaulting children. 760 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:06,550 And he was murdered 761 00:48:07,134 --> 00:48:10,684 before his appeal went through, and because of abatement, 762 00:48:10,762 --> 00:48:12,562 he was technically found not guilty. 763 00:48:13,223 --> 00:48:16,693 So, inmates in that prison knew about abatement. 764 00:48:17,436 --> 00:48:21,396 There was a really archaic law in the State of Massachusetts 765 00:48:21,481 --> 00:48:26,951 called the abatement, that if, in fact, you die 766 00:48:27,029 --> 00:48:33,489 while a murder case is under appeal, which was the case here, that if you die, 767 00:48:33,911 --> 00:48:37,001 that means you can't participate in the appeal, 768 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:42,250 and therefore, the conviction would be erased from the record. 769 00:48:43,378 --> 00:48:45,208 In light of this legal principle, 770 00:48:45,297 --> 00:48:47,297 do the Patriots owe him any money? 771 00:48:51,053 --> 00:48:53,263 You realize, "If I'm in jail for life 772 00:48:53,347 --> 00:48:56,057 and my wife and daughter gotta see me through this glass, 773 00:48:57,351 --> 00:48:59,441 and if, um, somebody whispered in my ear that, 774 00:48:59,519 --> 00:49:01,399 'Dude, if you bite the bullet on this one 775 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,520 and take your life, your kids will be straight, 776 00:49:03,607 --> 00:49:05,937 your wife will be straight for the rest of their lives'"? 777 00:49:06,818 --> 00:49:07,988 It's no choice. 778 00:49:08,528 --> 00:49:10,778 It's the type of shit a father would do, so if you asked me 779 00:49:10,864 --> 00:49:13,374 if a father would kill himself for his fucking daughter and wife 780 00:49:13,450 --> 00:49:15,700 to be set for life? Fuck, yes. I would. 781 00:49:18,330 --> 00:49:21,380 Abatement remains the law in this Commonwealth, 782 00:49:21,458 --> 00:49:25,298 and this court is compelled to follow binding precedent. 783 00:49:25,754 --> 00:49:29,014 In the interest of justice, the court has no choice 784 00:49:29,091 --> 00:49:34,051 but to abate the proceedings of initio by vacating Hernandez's convictions 785 00:49:34,137 --> 00:49:38,517 and dismissing the charges against him and his appeal. 786 00:49:40,310 --> 00:49:43,310 In our book, he's guilty, 787 00:49:44,064 --> 00:49:46,074 and he's gonna always be guilty. 788 00:49:49,820 --> 00:49:51,990 The Patriots are not just gonna cut a check. 789 00:49:52,072 --> 00:49:56,662 They will fight that thing in court till the last drop, 790 00:49:56,743 --> 00:50:02,543 and it will cost more money in legal fees to get that than they could ever get. 791 00:50:03,083 --> 00:50:06,003 Did he think that far ahead on that? I don't know. 792 00:50:09,047 --> 00:50:11,717 For Aaron to do that, he was hurting. 793 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:15,220 He was hurting tremendously, to an extreme that no one knew. 794 00:50:15,303 --> 00:50:18,313 Since the news broke on Wednesday morning, rumors have been swirling 795 00:50:18,390 --> 00:50:20,480 about the death of Aaron Hernandez. 796 00:50:20,559 --> 00:50:24,099 The latest reports suggest he may have had a jailhouse lover. 797 00:50:24,187 --> 00:50:25,937 Kyle Kennedy thinks he was probably 798 00:50:26,023 --> 00:50:29,903 the last fellow inmate to see Aaron Hernandez alive. 799 00:50:30,819 --> 00:50:34,819 And when the news broke that, "My gosh, the gay lover..." 800 00:50:35,991 --> 00:50:39,121 I mean, the first reaction my dad had was... 801 00:50:39,202 --> 00:50:42,462 I mean, I remember he looked at me, and he said, "What? 802 00:50:42,539 --> 00:50:46,789 Aaron's not gay. Are you kidding me? This is bullshit, this is fake." 803 00:50:46,877 --> 00:50:50,087 Like, he got, like, offended by them even doing that. 804 00:50:51,048 --> 00:50:53,128 And I think the words I used was, 805 00:50:54,217 --> 00:50:58,557 "Mr. Hernandez was rolling over in his grave right now." 806 00:50:59,514 --> 00:51:03,644 Little did he know that I was a part of it, so, um... 807 00:51:03,727 --> 00:51:08,317 It was very hard, man, it took me months. Um, Aaron had killed himself, 808 00:51:08,398 --> 00:51:13,568 and it wasn't something that I could just come clean on months, months later. 809 00:51:14,321 --> 00:51:15,781 I broke the news. 810 00:51:16,490 --> 00:51:17,910 But once he told me, 811 00:51:17,991 --> 00:51:19,791 it was going to be an extended conversation, 812 00:51:19,868 --> 00:51:22,328 and we talked it out and said, "Hey, man, 813 00:51:22,412 --> 00:51:24,712 I'm glad you told me," and "Gee, whiz, 814 00:51:24,790 --> 00:51:27,830 let's start getting you feeling better about yourself." 815 00:51:27,918 --> 00:51:31,048 Yes. It didn't matter to me 816 00:51:31,755 --> 00:51:34,165 whether he was with a man or a woman. 817 00:51:34,257 --> 00:51:36,257 So, that didn't matter to me. 818 00:51:36,343 --> 00:51:39,603 I wanted him to have someone. 819 00:51:44,059 --> 00:51:46,769 I stand here today proud to say that 820 00:51:47,187 --> 00:51:49,397 being bisexual has no difference 821 00:51:49,481 --> 00:51:52,821 in being an athlete or just being yourself. 822 00:51:54,236 --> 00:51:57,196 He wasn't ashamed of who he was. 823 00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,870 Aaron was proud of his sexuality, 824 00:51:59,950 --> 00:52:03,410 it was just, he couldn't say anything at the time. 825 00:52:03,495 --> 00:52:07,285 There was no one in the NFL that ever broke this news. 826 00:52:08,792 --> 00:52:12,132 I saw a lot of the news reports about Aaron, um, 827 00:52:12,212 --> 00:52:16,762 the rumors, the other guy in prison and the extremes 828 00:52:16,842 --> 00:52:19,852 he went through to stay closeted. 829 00:52:20,846 --> 00:52:24,466 You know, I had six shoulder surgeries, I've got two torn knees, 830 00:52:24,558 --> 00:52:29,018 I've had countless concussions, back is messed up to this day, 831 00:52:29,104 --> 00:52:31,654 I'm missing a groin, and, you know, 832 00:52:31,731 --> 00:52:34,401 but I didn't think twice about the injuries and what it was doing 833 00:52:34,484 --> 00:52:37,154 in the long run 'cause I didn't plan on living in the long-term. 834 00:52:39,614 --> 00:52:42,584 My plan was play football as long as possible. 835 00:52:42,659 --> 00:52:44,789 As long as I have that cover. 836 00:52:45,871 --> 00:52:47,711 And then I planned on killing myself 837 00:52:47,789 --> 00:52:49,999 'cause I thought no one would ever accept me. 838 00:52:51,793 --> 00:52:57,343 So, I started talking with a psychologist that the NFL has used before. 839 00:52:58,091 --> 00:53:01,641 Months went by. I was at the end of my rope, and... 840 00:53:02,220 --> 00:53:05,180 I think her first thing she said after I told her was, 841 00:53:05,265 --> 00:53:08,135 you know, that I wasn't the first player to tell her that I was gay, 842 00:53:08,226 --> 00:53:10,346 and that I wasn't the second player either. 843 00:53:11,521 --> 00:53:15,691 She, you know, told me that, you know, if you're just going to kill yourself anyway, 844 00:53:15,775 --> 00:53:18,525 you might as well sit down and talk with these people 845 00:53:18,612 --> 00:53:21,282 that you're afraid will disown you. 846 00:53:22,199 --> 00:53:25,329 I get to my parents' house, and, you know, I told my mom that, you know, 847 00:53:25,410 --> 00:53:27,750 there was something that's been bothering me for a long time 848 00:53:27,829 --> 00:53:30,329 that, you know, I need to talk to you about, and... 849 00:53:30,999 --> 00:53:33,379 So we're just three of us sitting in the living room, 850 00:53:33,460 --> 00:53:35,590 and I finally get the words out of my mouth 851 00:53:35,670 --> 00:53:37,300 and tell them I'm gay... 852 00:53:38,715 --> 00:53:41,675 and my mom just stands up and gives me a hug, and she... 853 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,220 she thought I was gonna tell them that I was terminally ill, so in a sense, 854 00:53:45,305 --> 00:53:48,805 she was relieved that nothing was wrong with me. 855 00:53:50,393 --> 00:53:54,023 So when I came out publicly years later and Mr. Kraft, 856 00:53:54,105 --> 00:53:57,565 he called me personally on my cell phone. I picked up, and it was him. 857 00:53:58,318 --> 00:54:01,568 Told me he was proud of me and, you know, proud that I was finally being honest 858 00:54:01,655 --> 00:54:04,235 and putting myself out there to help other players 859 00:54:04,324 --> 00:54:07,244 that may be in a position like, you know, I was. 860 00:54:08,411 --> 00:54:14,211 I think the whole story about Aaron is really unfortunate because, 861 00:54:14,292 --> 00:54:18,262 you know, you don't know what drove him to do these things. 862 00:54:19,339 --> 00:54:21,089 You know, if he was able 863 00:54:21,174 --> 00:54:26,054 to be himself and, you know, have some of these negative things 864 00:54:26,137 --> 00:54:29,387 not in his life, you know, what kind of difference would that have made? 865 00:54:33,812 --> 00:54:35,982 I didn't know why he did what he did, 866 00:54:36,773 --> 00:54:39,283 and I didn't know any of the circumstances surrounding it, 867 00:54:39,359 --> 00:54:44,069 but I knew at that moment in time that we've gotta get that brain. 868 00:54:46,783 --> 00:54:49,833 Terri and DJ came back into the fold 869 00:54:49,911 --> 00:54:53,751 because we needed their consent for the donation of his brain. 870 00:54:53,832 --> 00:54:57,292 And to their credit, they came together for him. 871 00:54:58,753 --> 00:55:00,633 The family of Aaron Hernandez 872 00:55:00,714 --> 00:55:05,264 has decided to donate Aaron's brain to the study, 873 00:55:05,343 --> 00:55:08,643 so that we could possibly shed light on this case. 874 00:55:09,347 --> 00:55:12,427 It's the latest in a string of NFL player suicides. 875 00:55:12,517 --> 00:55:15,097 The family is having his brain studied. They want to know 876 00:55:15,186 --> 00:55:19,316 if the suicide was associated to a history of concussion-related injuries. 877 00:55:19,983 --> 00:55:24,113 Dr. McKee's research at Boston University was instrumental. 878 00:55:25,864 --> 00:55:29,834 What I really admire is that she didn't ever plan to be involved with this. 879 00:55:29,909 --> 00:55:34,119 She was an Alzheimer's expert, and the brains just showed up in her lab. 880 00:55:34,205 --> 00:55:37,575 She's studied more brains of former contact athletes 881 00:55:37,667 --> 00:55:39,127 than anyone in the world, 882 00:55:39,210 --> 00:55:42,420 so she's doing tremendous work. 883 00:55:43,131 --> 00:55:45,591 My job, I look at the brains after death, 884 00:55:45,675 --> 00:55:48,965 but the whole reason I do it is so we can understand this disease 885 00:55:49,054 --> 00:55:51,974 and learn how to diagnose it during life. 886 00:55:52,057 --> 00:55:54,887 We know this is a problem, and we just want to find solutions. 887 00:55:54,976 --> 00:55:57,396 We want to bring hope and care to the people 888 00:55:57,479 --> 00:55:59,359 that are suffering this disorder. 889 00:56:01,608 --> 00:56:04,648 I kind of thought maybe it was just a publicity stunt of some sort, 890 00:56:04,736 --> 00:56:09,736 but I could not have been more wrong when I saw the results of his CTE. 891 00:56:10,367 --> 00:56:13,197 The most significant... That this for an individual 892 00:56:13,286 --> 00:56:18,286 who was only 27 at the time that he died, he had a very advanced disease. 893 00:56:18,375 --> 00:56:21,245 And not only was it advanced microscopically, 894 00:56:21,336 --> 00:56:23,506 especially in the frontal lobes, 895 00:56:23,588 --> 00:56:29,338 which are very important for decision making, judgment and cognition. 896 00:56:29,427 --> 00:56:31,007 This is the first case we've ever seen 897 00:56:31,096 --> 00:56:33,466 of that kind of damage in such a young individual. 898 00:56:39,437 --> 00:56:41,477 I didn't know too, too much about CTE, 899 00:56:41,564 --> 00:56:45,574 but I started to look at the signs and symptoms or the effects of CTE. 900 00:56:45,652 --> 00:56:50,572 Impulsiveness, you know, rash decisions, sometimes propensity to be violent. 901 00:56:50,657 --> 00:56:52,617 I mean, it was Aaron Hernandez. 902 00:56:52,700 --> 00:56:56,500 And if you look at everything that this young man had going on, 903 00:56:56,579 --> 00:57:00,539 not only physically, but mentally, emotionally, um, 904 00:57:00,625 --> 00:57:03,375 from what happened to him as a child and what he'd been dealing with 905 00:57:03,461 --> 00:57:07,171 in his own life, and then on top of it, you add the CTE, 906 00:57:07,632 --> 00:57:12,102 it all made sense that this tragedy, you know, had probably begun 907 00:57:12,178 --> 00:57:15,138 or the seeds of this tragedy had started many, many years earlier. 908 00:57:16,057 --> 00:57:21,597 I can say that this is substantial damage that undoubtedly took years to develop. 909 00:57:22,313 --> 00:57:25,113 This is not something that's developed acutely 910 00:57:25,191 --> 00:57:29,821 or in just in the last several years. I imagine these changes have been evolving 911 00:57:29,904 --> 00:57:34,244 over... Maybe even as long as a decade. 912 00:57:36,953 --> 00:57:42,213 I think CTE could have, in fact, been a contributing factor 913 00:57:42,292 --> 00:57:45,252 to what happened because I know Aaron's had concussions, 914 00:57:45,336 --> 00:57:48,586 I know I've probably given him personally one or two myself. 915 00:57:48,673 --> 00:57:51,843 He's told me about one I gave to him after the game celebrating, 916 00:57:51,926 --> 00:57:53,176 just smacking his head. 917 00:57:53,845 --> 00:57:55,255 I knew Aaron Hernandez 918 00:57:55,889 --> 00:57:58,349 from Bristol, Connecticut, an All-American. 919 00:57:59,100 --> 00:58:00,730 And to think that this is a game 920 00:58:00,810 --> 00:58:04,610 that we encourage young people to play, and the end result was that... 921 00:58:05,607 --> 00:58:08,187 I'm conflicted. I really am. 922 00:58:08,818 --> 00:58:12,158 I wasn't really shocked because Junior Seau, 923 00:58:12,238 --> 00:58:14,528 the same thing had happened with him. 924 00:58:15,241 --> 00:58:19,831 Having CTE be the kind of thing that both of them shared 925 00:58:20,705 --> 00:58:26,625 is eye-opening to athletes and to everybody in the football world. 926 00:58:26,711 --> 00:58:30,671 I don't know if they're trying to pass the cup of sympathy and empathy around, 927 00:58:30,757 --> 00:58:32,927 but when it comes to him, I have none. 928 00:58:33,009 --> 00:58:36,969 My thoughts that people who think that CTE was somehow involved, 929 00:58:37,055 --> 00:58:38,885 I think that's an absolute cop-out. 930 00:58:38,973 --> 00:58:42,853 There are thousands of former NFL players out there 931 00:58:42,936 --> 00:58:47,226 that might have dealt with concussions. I've dealt with them. 932 00:58:47,315 --> 00:58:49,315 So to use that as a cop-out, I'm not... 933 00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,490 No, no. Come on. We're smarter than that, people. 934 00:58:53,196 --> 00:58:55,276 I don't think you can blame it all on football 935 00:58:55,365 --> 00:58:58,405 because lots of people play football. 936 00:58:58,493 --> 00:59:00,913 We've never seen an NFL guy 937 00:59:00,995 --> 00:59:05,325 in the middle of his success go out and start murdering people. 938 00:59:05,416 --> 00:59:07,836 So, I don't think you can put it all on football. 939 00:59:07,919 --> 00:59:10,169 But would Aaron Hernandez be in this situation 940 00:59:10,255 --> 00:59:12,835 if he was a concert pianist? Probably not. 941 00:59:13,675 --> 00:59:15,885 If you look at the symptoms of concussion, 942 00:59:15,969 --> 00:59:19,259 ringing in the ears, imbalance, many others, 943 00:59:19,347 --> 00:59:22,057 I'd experience that on a weekly basis. 944 00:59:23,142 --> 00:59:27,482 Then I really began to question my role in the NFL. 945 00:59:28,481 --> 00:59:31,781 Ultimately, I decided that it was brain health first. 946 00:59:32,652 --> 00:59:34,902 I quit after one year. 947 00:59:36,114 --> 00:59:39,414 The NFL is reeling as a promising young rookie 948 00:59:39,492 --> 00:59:43,202 announces his retirement citing concerns over head trauma. 949 00:59:43,288 --> 00:59:45,328 An uncommon move by Chris Borland. 950 00:59:45,415 --> 00:59:48,165 This has got to worry the NFL. 951 00:59:48,251 --> 00:59:53,011 Our game has never been more exciting, has never been more competitive, 952 00:59:53,089 --> 00:59:54,799 and I don't think it's ever been safer. 953 00:59:54,882 --> 00:59:58,092 In my minimal interaction with folks high in the NFL, 954 00:59:58,177 --> 01:00:00,387 I think there's a certain degree of hubris. 955 01:00:00,471 --> 01:00:03,641 You know, they own a day of the week, football's a religion, 956 01:00:03,725 --> 01:00:05,805 and no matter whether or not they're throwing a flag 957 01:00:05,893 --> 01:00:09,273 or claiming concussions are down or taking players into the blue tent, 958 01:00:09,355 --> 01:00:12,775 the reason football's the most popular sport is because it's violent. 959 01:00:13,234 --> 01:00:16,864 So, they're not in the health business, they're in the violence business. 960 01:00:16,946 --> 01:00:20,576 You know, players joke that Dracula runs the blood bank. 961 01:00:20,658 --> 01:00:23,868 I'm very pleased with what 962 01:00:23,953 --> 01:00:26,253 we're doing in the area of equipment, 963 01:00:26,831 --> 01:00:29,581 what we're doing with medical attention. 964 01:00:29,667 --> 01:00:33,587 And my sons and grandsons played, I played, 965 01:00:33,671 --> 01:00:37,721 and I'd recommend to every mother out there 966 01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:42,100 who wants her young man to grow up special that they play, too. 967 01:00:43,473 --> 01:00:46,523 It's all about the business of football, 968 01:00:46,601 --> 01:00:48,481 whether it's on the collegiate level 969 01:00:48,561 --> 01:00:50,981 or whether it's on the professional level, 970 01:00:51,064 --> 01:00:55,654 and very little to do with what ultimately become 971 01:00:56,235 --> 01:01:01,025 an expended asset of the business, which are these players in the end. 972 01:01:01,115 --> 01:01:04,535 I believe that if someone... 973 01:01:06,954 --> 01:01:10,254 had made football less important, 974 01:01:12,043 --> 01:01:17,263 and Aaron's life and his behavior more important, 975 01:01:19,467 --> 01:01:21,217 the outcomes may have been different. 976 01:01:22,136 --> 01:01:26,016 I was not prepared for this. A murder conviction. 977 01:01:28,184 --> 01:01:30,604 Ursula Ward choking back tears... 978 01:01:30,687 --> 01:01:34,397 A murder conviction will not bring my Odin back, 979 01:01:34,482 --> 01:01:36,402 but it will offer me some peace. 980 01:01:36,484 --> 01:01:39,574 ...begging lawmakers to change a centuries-old law 981 01:01:39,654 --> 01:01:42,034 that cleared her son's killer's name. 982 01:01:42,115 --> 01:01:44,235 Why are you fighting as hard as you are? 983 01:01:44,325 --> 01:01:46,825 Because I'm fighting for the other Odins out there 984 01:01:46,911 --> 01:01:52,631 that doesn't have a voice, and I wanted to make sure that my voice heard for them. 985 01:01:54,377 --> 01:01:58,587 The law that has been on the books in Massachusetts for decades. 986 01:01:58,673 --> 01:02:01,433 But this morning, the State Supreme Judicial Court said 987 01:02:01,509 --> 01:02:06,139 that rule was outdated and did not fit with contemporary life. 988 01:02:07,724 --> 01:02:11,194 Aaron Hernandez is a convicted murderer once again. 989 01:02:12,353 --> 01:02:16,943 The family of Odin Lloyd is extremely pleased 990 01:02:17,024 --> 01:02:19,074 that the Supreme Judicial Court of Massachusetts 991 01:02:19,152 --> 01:02:23,992 has determined to reinstate the conviction against Aaron Hernandez. 992 01:02:25,283 --> 01:02:27,033 I think we all want to be apologetic. 993 01:02:27,118 --> 01:02:28,368 Anyone that was close to Aaron, 994 01:02:28,453 --> 01:02:32,293 you know, we wanna say, "This is why. This is why." 995 01:02:32,373 --> 01:02:35,173 But at the end of the day, he made these decisions. 996 01:02:36,878 --> 01:02:40,588 You know, we can't sit here and say, "This is why he made these decisions," 997 01:02:40,673 --> 01:02:45,603 or "this is why." We can paint a picture of the things he was going through, 998 01:02:45,678 --> 01:02:48,718 but he made these decisions. The decisions lie with him, 999 01:02:48,806 --> 01:02:50,886 the consequence lies with him. 1000 01:02:50,975 --> 01:02:53,095 You had talked about, after the conviction, 1001 01:02:53,186 --> 01:02:55,766 you talked about forgiveness. Do you still feel forgiveness? 1002 01:02:55,855 --> 01:03:00,485 I do. I do. And I pray to God that his soul is at peace. 1003 01:03:00,568 --> 01:03:02,948 I pray to God that he find comfort, 1004 01:03:03,696 --> 01:03:05,776 and God will forgive him 1005 01:03:05,865 --> 01:03:07,735 of whatever happened. 1006 01:03:08,910 --> 01:03:11,330 Avielle! You going ni-night? 1007 01:03:11,412 --> 01:03:13,792 Avielle, say bye bye to Daddy. 1008 01:03:14,540 --> 01:03:16,670 Never bye bye, it's see you later. 1009 01:03:16,751 --> 01:03:19,131 There's no bye byes, it's see you later. 1010 01:03:19,545 --> 01:03:21,665 She don't know that yet. Say bye bye! 1011 01:03:21,756 --> 01:03:24,966 Nah, no, never bye bye. Daddy's never going bye bye. 1012 01:03:25,551 --> 01:03:28,141 She's blowing her nose. I'll talk to you later. 1013 01:03:28,221 --> 01:03:30,931 All right. I love you. I'll talk to you later. 1014 01:03:31,015 --> 01:03:32,765 Okay, I love you. Bye. 1015 01:03:33,351 --> 01:03:35,561 The person you called has hung up. 1016 01:03:36,305 --> 01:03:42,479 Support us and become VIP member to remove all ads from OpenSubtitles.org94973

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