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Dispatcher: Brown and Walker,
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bring the train out
from 16 track.
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# If you're feeling all right,
and you think you're on #
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# Somebody let me know #
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# Everybody in the place
put a whistle in your face #
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# Scream it out and say,
yo! Hit it! #
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# You don't stop the
rocking rhythm that makes
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your fingers pop #
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# I said hip-hop,
now, thanks a lot #
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# Come on, everybody,
give me what you got #
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# I'm going to tell you
a little story about the
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Sugar Hill Gang #
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# With the pow-pow boogie,
the big bang-bang. #
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Narrator: They call
themselves "writers"
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because that's what they do.
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They write their names, among
other things, everywhere--
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names they've been given or
have chosen for themselves.
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Most of all, they write
in and on subway trains
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which carry their names from one
end of the city to the other.
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It's called, "bombing,"
and it has equally assertive
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counterparts in
rap music and break dancing.
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# Scream it out
and say, "I am!" #
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# I am! #
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- # Somebody! # -
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# Somebody! #
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- Graffiti writing in
New York is a vocation.
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It's traditions are
handed down from one youthful
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generation to the next.
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To some, it's art.
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To most people,
however, it is a plague
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that never ends, a symbol
that we've lost control.
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I'm Detective Bernie Jacobs.
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I, in conjunction with my
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partner Detective Jim McHugh,
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are the crime
prevention coordinators
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for the New York City
Transit Police Department.
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Graffiti, as the name
itself, is not an art.
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Graffiti is the application
of a medium to a surface.
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I will show you graffiti,
such as the letters
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on the end of that car
directly in back of me.
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Is that an art form?
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I don't know.
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I'm not an art crime critic,
but I can sure as hell tell you
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that that's a crime.
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At the Grand Concourse 149th
Street station in the Bronx,
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graffiti writers gather
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at what they call,
"The Writers' Bench."
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SE3: They're saying that
the kids run the subways,
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that the system
is out of control,
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that 15- or 16-year-old
kids are running the system
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and that graffiti is
the symbol of that.
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No, I ain't running the system,
I'm bombing the system.
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They're trying to make it
look like graffiti writers
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break windows and everything.
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- It ain't even like that.
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- You know who be doin' that?
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Niggas who be high when
they come from school
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are the ones who
break the windows.
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- And it's in the graffiti
artists' favor to be as cool,
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calm and collected about putting
his art on the train as he can.
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You know, he wants to
get in and get out
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without even being noticed,
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except for the work that's
going to come out to the public,
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you know, that Monday.
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CES: Yeah, we got to start
to rock some straight letters.
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- This one came out all right.
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- Yeah, that's the first.
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That's about the third "Skeme"
piece I did this year.
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And that's the Tick-Tack
I did in Gun Hill.
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- What'd you do last night?
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- We did two whole cars.
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It was me, Dez and Mean 3.
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And in the first car,
in small letters, it said,
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"All you see is"
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and then big block
silver letters, it said,
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"Crime in the city, " right?
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- It took up the whole car?
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Yeah, it was a whole car,
and shit, and then it was a
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you know, one of them
scrolls? scroll-like,
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In the next car it was a
Skeme that had a cop character.
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You know, a police nigga with a
stick, you know, and a badge
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- What designs you
put around the car?
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Barbara Andadcio: Society
should go down in the subway
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and lock because they don't
have any business down there.
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It is dangerous down there.
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People that work down
there 25 and 30 years...
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have accidents.
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But his contention is
that he's immortal, I guess,
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Like most 17 year olds
are immortal, right?
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- It's a matter of getting a tag
on each line and each division.
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You know, it's called
going all-city.
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People see your tags in Queens,
Uptown, Downtown-- all over.
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( laughing )
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- Really, I can only laugh
to keep from crying,
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because what happens
is that he really--
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I don't really think he
knows how silly that sounds.
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He's going all-city.
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I mean, to what end?
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And when I ask him,
he says to me,
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"Well, just so people see it
and they know who I am."
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Nobody knows who he is
and so they see it--
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- No, it's not a matter of,
"So they know who I am."
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- So they see it. And after
they see it, so what?
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- It's a matter of bombing,
knowing that I can do it.
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Every time I get into a train,
almost every day I see my name.
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I say, "Yeah, you know it. I
was there, I bombed it."
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It's for me.
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It's not for nobody else to see.
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I don't care-- I don't care
about nobody else seeing it,
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or the fact if they
can read it or not.
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It's for me and other graffiti
writers, that we can read it.
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All these other people who don't
write, they're excluded.
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I don't care about them,
you know?
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They don't matter to me.
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It's for us.
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Iz the Wiz: "CC"
starboard bow.
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Quik: Slow it down.
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Slow it down.
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Min: What is it?
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You tell me.
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- Nice and slow.
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Iz: This is it!
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This is it!
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This is it!
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( Yelling )
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Here we go!
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Here we go!
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This is it!
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This is it!
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Give me that towel!
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Give me that towel!
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That "Cathy" came out nice.
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That y wasn't wack.
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( Quik applauds )
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( starts and stops music )
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- In the 1970's
New York graffiti,
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rapping and breaking
became the prime expressions
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of a new young people's
subculture called "hip-hop."
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Graffiti is the written word.
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There is the spoken word
of rap music...
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( rap music playing )
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and then there's the
acrobatic body language
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of dances like"breaking. "
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Frosty Freeze: It started in the
Bronx and part of Harlem.
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It started in Freeze's house.
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His mom used to break.
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- Don't be talking
about my mother, now.
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Just don't talk about my mother.
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Boy, you're acting stupid now.
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Breaking is when you
don't have nothing to do,
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everybody just standing
around and getting high.
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- You make up your own freezes.
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- You got names for them.
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You call em
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- Like what?
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- Like the baby.
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That's the baby.
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A dead freeze, like this.
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Crazy Legs: That's one of
them old, ancient--
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That ain't one of the old,
'cause I was the first
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one to do it.
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- How ancient can you get?
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- The one when you go like this?
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- It's called the hump.
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- The headache.
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- No, that's the headache.
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And the other one is the hump.
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- When you got a headache,
you go like that, you know?
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When you hump, you go like that.
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- Yo, man, this place is bombed.
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Iz: This is the transit system.
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They don't like it
to be defaced.
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They will, at times, try and...
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go to the extreme
in trying to apprehend you.
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The subway system
is a very old one
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and I've personally
explored some tunnels
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and I've found rooms
with maps that were so old,
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might have been like
the first train line
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that New York City had.
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Call it what you want,
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it's just a lot of rock,
a lot of steel;
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it's a tomb, a dungeon,
under the city.
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A lot of trains, a lot of fun.
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A lot of art.
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Art that's going to be
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a part of New York City's
history forever.
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Sach: Oh, wow! Check it out,
a whole car!
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Check it out, man! Sach, quick.
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Look at that!
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- A lot of writers have been
down here. You can tell.
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Graffiti all over the place.
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Years ago, it was
pretty much a secret.
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It was secretly done.
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People wondered and
wished they could do it.
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Now, most people do it.
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When all the toys are
like home sleeping...
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cuddling to their pillows.
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They usually have curfews.
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Come down...
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in the wee hours of the night
after the workers done
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their job, the sweepers did
the sweeping they had to do...
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I just take my time
and be creative.
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Dondi: I think it's something
you can never recapture again
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once you experience it.
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You have, like,
live third rails,
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and like, crazy cops who
come and chase you out.
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Even the smell you get when
you first smell trains
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in a yard, it's like...
it's a good smell to, like,
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a dedicated graffiti
writer, I guess.
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When you're first against
a train, it's like
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everything seems
so big, like... wow!
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It's like you're in a yard
of metal giants, and like,
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I mean, everything is so hard,
and so steel, you're just there.
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You're like a little dude in
the midst of all this metal,
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and like, you're here
to produce something.
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Well, you're here to
try to produce something.
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- Well, I've seen
comparable graffiti.
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Not necessarily
these particular ones.
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Each of these costs us
a million dollars, in a sense,
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because others went out
and tried to copy.
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It isn't worth it.
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Well, it is one of the
quality-of-life offenses.
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And you can't just take one of
those quality-of-life offenses;
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it's like three-card-monte
and pick pocketing and
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shoplifting and graffiti
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defacing our public
and private walls.
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They're all in the same area
of destroying our lifestyle
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and making it difficult
to enjoy life.
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And I think it has
to be responded to.
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So I've told you the response
that I think a repeater,
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three-time repeater, should get
would be five days in jail.
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Now, obviously, a murderer,
if you believe in the
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death penalty as I do,
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you want to have the option of
executing a murderer.
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You wouldn't do that
to a graffiti writer.
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Man: I saw you at work
over here and I just want to
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find out what you're filming.
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Interviewer: We're making a film
on subway graffiti in New York.
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Why did you take this particular
neighborhood here?
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What's unusual?
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Is there more graffiti
here than other places?
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I hope not.
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- We're here because
one of the best
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graffiti writers
lives around here.
248
00:13:37,905 --> 00:13:39,323
He writes "Seen. "
249
00:13:39,407 --> 00:13:40,449
- What is it?
250
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- S-E-E-N.
251
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( "The Wanderer" plays )
252
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- That's his name?
253
00:13:46,956 --> 00:13:47,915
- Yes, that's what he writes.
254
00:13:47,999 --> 00:13:49,417
- Or is it a nom de plume?
255
00:13:49,500 --> 00:13:50,793
- It is a nom de plume.
256
00:13:50,876 --> 00:13:51,877
I see.
257
00:13:51,961 --> 00:13:53,212
You wouldn't tell me
his real name?
258
00:13:53,295 --> 00:13:54,797
- No.
259
00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:55,923
- Why not?
260
00:13:56,007 --> 00:13:58,259
Would he get in trouble, or
wouldn't he be glorified by it?
261
00:13:58,342 --> 00:14:03,305
# Oh, I'm the type of guy who'll
never settle down #
262
00:14:03,472 --> 00:14:07,768
# Where pretty girls are, well,
you know that I'm around
263
00:14:07,852 --> 00:14:09,353
# I kiss 'em and I love 'em ##
264
00:14:09,437 --> 00:14:11,439
# 'Cause to me they're
all the same #
265
00:14:11,522 --> 00:14:13,274
# I hug 'em and I squeeze 'em #
266
00:14:13,357 --> 00:14:15,276
# They don't even know my name #
267
00:14:15,359 --> 00:14:17,445
# Yeah, I'm a wanderer #
268
00:14:17,528 --> 00:14:19,488
# Yeah, I'm a wanderer #
269
00:14:19,572 --> 00:14:22,324
# I roam around, around,
around, around #
270
00:14:22,408 --> 00:14:24,368
- Yeah, go ahead and go -
271
00:14:24,493 --> 00:14:28,414
( saxophone solo plays )
272
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# 'Cause I'm a wanderer #
273
00:14:42,595 --> 00:14:44,555
# Yeah, I'm a wanderer #
274
00:14:44,638 --> 00:14:48,893
# I roam around, around,
around, around, around #
275
00:14:48,976 --> 00:14:50,978
# 'Cause I'm a wanderer #
276
00:14:51,062 --> 00:14:52,813
# Yeah, I'm a wanderer. #
277
00:14:52,897 --> 00:14:54,982
Seen: All right, there's about
four numerous reasons why...
278
00:14:55,066 --> 00:15:00,029
I ain't painting right now.
To make a long story short,
279
00:15:00,905 --> 00:15:03,574
I'm on what they call a
six-month probation.
280
00:15:03,657 --> 00:15:06,911
I call it a six-month vacation,
never mind probation.
281
00:15:06,994 --> 00:15:08,496
Now they got a graffiti
squad on this line,
282
00:15:08,579 --> 00:15:10,414
which there really
was never, really.
283
00:15:10,498 --> 00:15:13,125
Since they come on this line,
it's been harder to piece.
284
00:15:13,209 --> 00:15:15,961
It ain't like the old days when
the train pulled into the yard
285
00:15:16,045 --> 00:15:17,338
on a Friday night,
286
00:15:17,421 --> 00:15:19,465
that train wouldn't pull
out until Monday morning.
287
00:15:19,548 --> 00:15:21,509
Now, when you go
to piece a train,
288
00:15:21,592 --> 00:15:24,261
you put an outline on the train
and you can say goodbye,
289
00:15:24,345 --> 00:15:26,597
the train pulls out
10 minutes later.
290
00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,182
Or, if you're ready
to put an outline,
291
00:15:28,265 --> 00:15:29,600
you got to chase
the train down the track
292
00:15:29,683 --> 00:15:31,477
to put an outline on the piece.
293
00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,062
It just ain't the same anymore.
294
00:15:33,145 --> 00:15:37,233
They don't know what
they're doing no more.
295
00:15:37,316 --> 00:15:40,027
Late, as usual.
296
00:15:40,111 --> 00:15:41,028
But I'm here.
297
00:15:41,112 --> 00:15:42,196
I show up, though.
298
00:15:42,279 --> 00:15:43,197
I show up.
299
00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,199
Let me see.
300
00:15:45,282 --> 00:15:46,534
Well, why don't you
do this one on
301
00:15:46,617 --> 00:15:48,869
that side of the wall?
302
00:15:48,953 --> 00:15:49,870
- You know what I'm saying?
303
00:15:49,954 --> 00:15:50,871
- These two?
304
00:15:50,955 --> 00:15:51,872
- No. This one--
305
00:15:51,956 --> 00:15:52,873
- It's going to be crowded.
306
00:15:52,957 --> 00:15:54,625
- We're going to have
plenty of room.
307
00:15:54,708 --> 00:15:55,876
- The bottom of the piece?
308
00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:57,878
- The bottom of the piece,
I say, "The United Artists"
309
00:15:57,962 --> 00:16:00,422
will go a little bit below
the top, about here.
310
00:16:00,506 --> 00:16:02,049
'Cause you're going to have
it on a wave. Big letters.
311
00:16:02,133 --> 00:16:03,467
I want you to start
from about here.
312
00:16:03,551 --> 00:16:05,010
Maybe even here.
313
00:16:05,094 --> 00:16:06,053
Start it from here.
314
00:16:06,303 --> 00:16:07,388
Listen to me.
315
00:16:07,471 --> 00:16:08,556
From here.
316
00:16:08,639 --> 00:16:09,557
You understand what
I'm saying to you?
317
00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:13,519
( Paint spraying )
318
00:16:13,602 --> 00:16:15,563
- I still think it's too big.
319
00:16:20,359 --> 00:16:23,070
- Now, your first outline is
needed, always needed.
320
00:16:23,154 --> 00:16:25,364
This way you know what
you're filling in.
321
00:16:25,447 --> 00:16:26,657
No matter how good you are,
you can't just go on in
322
00:16:26,740 --> 00:16:29,910
and just start filling in--
in the air.
323
00:16:29,994 --> 00:16:31,162
You've got to have
your first outline.
324
00:16:31,245 --> 00:16:33,455
Once your first outline
is done, then your fill-in,
325
00:16:33,539 --> 00:16:35,082
that takes away
your first outline.
326
00:16:35,166 --> 00:16:36,917
You don't need your
first because now you
327
00:16:37,001 --> 00:16:38,127
got your fill-in.
328
00:16:38,210 --> 00:16:41,088
From your fill-in, you put your
colors and then your 3-D.
329
00:16:41,172 --> 00:16:44,466
If you want background,
you put your cloud or whatever.
330
00:16:45,509 --> 00:16:46,343
How's this, Nick?
331
00:16:46,427 --> 00:16:47,428
I'm throwing a few
connections here.
332
00:16:47,511 --> 00:16:51,098
I'm going to make it
look like yours.
333
00:16:51,182 --> 00:16:52,433
What do you think?
334
00:16:52,516 --> 00:16:57,146
I'll make a few bits.
335
00:16:57,229 --> 00:16:59,690
All right. Huh?
336
00:16:59,773 --> 00:17:00,691
Bits. Bits.
337
00:17:00,774 --> 00:17:01,692
I don't know.
338
00:17:01,775 --> 00:17:03,444
Little doodads here and there.
339
00:17:03,527 --> 00:17:05,279
Yeah, now it's shaping up.
340
00:17:05,362 --> 00:17:08,449
I have about a hundred outlines,
but I've shaped it up.
341
00:17:08,532 --> 00:17:10,034
Nicky, Nicky, come on!
342
00:17:10,117 --> 00:17:11,994
You gonna save me room or what?
343
00:17:12,077 --> 00:17:13,078
I didn't do that to yours.
344
00:17:13,162 --> 00:17:14,079
Get out of there!
345
00:17:14,163 --> 00:17:15,080
Go on!
346
00:17:15,164 --> 00:17:16,999
Woman: He's making
a mess in this house.
347
00:17:17,082 --> 00:17:20,961
He cannot sit down without,
348
00:17:21,045 --> 00:17:23,172
you know, doing
graffiti on something.
349
00:17:23,255 --> 00:17:24,298
- All right--
350
00:17:24,381 --> 00:17:25,507
- He really can't.
351
00:17:25,591 --> 00:17:27,051
- When you're talking
on the phone,
352
00:17:27,134 --> 00:17:28,260
you don't doodle
on the paper?
353
00:17:28,344 --> 00:17:29,220
- I don't doodle.
354
00:17:29,303 --> 00:17:30,095
- Yes, you do.
355
00:17:30,179 --> 00:17:31,055
- I do not doodle.
356
00:17:31,138 --> 00:17:32,056
- You do doodle on the paper.
357
00:17:32,139 --> 00:17:33,307
I don't doodle.
358
00:17:33,390 --> 00:17:35,309
I just write my name while
I'm talking on the phone.
359
00:17:35,392 --> 00:17:36,644
What's that?
360
00:17:36,727 --> 00:17:38,312
I'm just writing something.
361
00:17:38,395 --> 00:17:40,272
- You're telling me
that you write your name
362
00:17:40,356 --> 00:17:41,315
while you're talking
on the phone.
363
00:17:41,398 --> 00:17:45,444
In the meantime, you have
destroyed your room.
364
00:17:45,527 --> 00:17:47,029
You have destroyed your room.
365
00:17:47,112 --> 00:17:48,155
- Testing out my paints.
366
00:17:48,239 --> 00:17:49,365
- You have no respect
for anything.
367
00:17:49,448 --> 00:17:50,991
Don't tell me about
testing out your paints.
368
00:17:51,075 --> 00:17:52,993
You have no respect
for anything anymore.
369
00:17:53,077 --> 00:17:55,746
- Ain't we putting red, yellow,
or red, orange and yellow here?
370
00:17:55,829 --> 00:17:57,539
- No, the brown's
got to be brown.
371
00:17:57,623 --> 00:17:58,999
I ain't putting no browns there.
372
00:17:59,083 --> 00:18:00,251
Ain't no way.
373
00:18:00,334 --> 00:18:01,752
Red, orange and yellow.
374
00:18:01,835 --> 00:18:03,170
You want it to stand out.
375
00:18:03,254 --> 00:18:05,422
Boom The whole thing.
376
00:18:05,506 --> 00:18:07,341
Around the whole works--
red, orange, yellow.
377
00:18:07,424 --> 00:18:10,135
Remember how I did the
"Mad Seen" with the wall
378
00:18:10,219 --> 00:18:12,388
and the color went all
around the thing?
379
00:18:12,471 --> 00:18:15,015
The "Mad Seen,"
the one on the 5s?
380
00:18:15,099 --> 00:18:16,308
With the walls all falling down.
381
00:18:16,392 --> 00:18:18,394
The one I did myself.
382
00:18:18,477 --> 00:18:19,687
- No. - All right.
383
00:18:19,770 --> 00:18:21,563
Let me explain.
384
00:18:21,647 --> 00:18:24,608
Yellow, orange and
a little bit of red--
385
00:18:24,692 --> 00:18:26,277
yellow and orange around
the whole thing and then,
386
00:18:26,360 --> 00:18:29,154
we'll put browns
and beiges in the 3-D.
387
00:18:29,238 --> 00:18:30,197
Believe me.
388
00:18:30,281 --> 00:18:31,073
I'll show you.
389
00:18:31,156 --> 00:18:32,449
Not around the fade.
390
00:18:32,533 --> 00:18:33,492
Fade into the yellow,
but a trim over it--
391
00:18:33,575 --> 00:18:34,576
a cheap trim.
392
00:18:34,660 --> 00:18:35,619
I'll show you after.
393
00:18:35,703 --> 00:18:36,578
I'll show you after.
394
00:18:36,662 --> 00:18:38,539
All right?
395
00:18:38,622 --> 00:18:43,210
I'll never steer
you wrong, Nick.
396
00:18:43,294 --> 00:18:48,132
Rustoleum, Krylon,
Wet-look, Epoxy, Red Devil...
397
00:18:48,215 --> 00:18:49,550
When you hold a can
of Rustoleum in your hand,
398
00:18:49,633 --> 00:18:52,761
it's like holding three other
shit brands in your hand.
399
00:18:52,845 --> 00:18:55,556
It lasts, it covers,
400
00:18:55,639 --> 00:18:57,224
and it's not aerosol
like Krylon.
401
00:18:57,308 --> 00:18:58,142
It just comes out in a mist.
402
00:18:58,225 --> 00:19:01,228
This comes out like paint.
403
00:19:01,312 --> 00:19:05,149
Mayor Koch: The schools
have courses in art.
404
00:19:05,232 --> 00:19:08,193
How about the mothers and
fathers of this city
405
00:19:08,277 --> 00:19:11,196
Saying to the kids, "That's
the wrong thing to do"?
406
00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,074
- You listen to them talk,
they sound ridiculous.
407
00:19:14,158 --> 00:19:16,243
He's king of the
yakkety-yak yard.
408
00:19:16,327 --> 00:19:18,704
Who died and left him
king of any yard?
409
00:19:18,787 --> 00:19:21,749
He owns nothing in
the subway, you know?
410
00:19:21,832 --> 00:19:23,208
( laughs )
411
00:19:24,251 --> 00:19:25,502
- I love robbing paint.
412
00:19:25,586 --> 00:19:28,464
I know, you know, everybody
knows how you rob it.
413
00:19:28,547 --> 00:19:30,549
He gets me suped up and
sometimes I'll go and get
414
00:19:30,632 --> 00:19:32,760
15 cans at a time, you know.
415
00:19:32,843 --> 00:19:34,762
Stuffing it in your coat,
in your shirt,
416
00:19:34,845 --> 00:19:36,096
down the back of your pants.
417
00:19:36,180 --> 00:19:39,558
It's mainly with the
big coat and like 15 cans,
418
00:19:39,641 --> 00:19:42,102
you figure it out,
it's like over $50.
419
00:19:42,186 --> 00:19:45,105
You're going into stores--
we could go one day
420
00:19:45,189 --> 00:19:46,607
and get 100 cans at a time.
421
00:19:46,690 --> 00:19:47,858
It's easy.
422
00:19:47,941 --> 00:19:49,443
For me, anyway.
423
00:19:49,526 --> 00:19:52,446
It's harder on black kids
or Spanish kids,
424
00:19:52,529 --> 00:19:54,865
'cause like everybody
thinks a graffiti writer
425
00:19:54,948 --> 00:19:56,867
is black and Puerto Rican,
426
00:19:56,950 --> 00:20:01,246
and that's like, you know,
it's wrong, you know.
427
00:20:01,330 --> 00:20:03,457
A lot of white people
are writin'.
428
00:20:03,540 --> 00:20:08,504
- What you've got is a whole
miserable subculture.
429
00:20:09,713 --> 00:20:12,508
Zephyr: I was raised on the
Upper East Side of Manhattan.
430
00:20:12,591 --> 00:20:17,304
I went to a sort of strict prep
school in the Bronx, right?
431
00:20:17,388 --> 00:20:18,889
Riverdale Country School.
432
00:20:18,972 --> 00:20:23,811
In attending that school,
I had to walk past the 1 yard
433
00:20:23,894 --> 00:20:26,647
on 242nd Street every day.
434
00:20:26,730 --> 00:20:29,441
From where I stood, I'd watch
the trains pull in and out.
435
00:20:29,525 --> 00:20:31,735
I thought,
"How could a human being
436
00:20:31,819 --> 00:20:34,405
have his name on every car?"
437
00:20:34,488 --> 00:20:37,324
You know, that these guys
must either live in there,
438
00:20:37,408 --> 00:20:39,159
be allowed to live in there,
439
00:20:39,243 --> 00:20:44,164
or just be... allowed
to go off like that, right?
440
00:20:44,248 --> 00:20:48,168
They're trespassing it;
they're beating the system;
441
00:20:48,252 --> 00:20:51,839
they're getting their
names up, right?
442
00:20:51,922 --> 00:20:54,842
We've drenched the city
with our names, right?
443
00:20:54,925 --> 00:20:57,344
We're trying our damndest.
444
00:20:57,428 --> 00:21:02,391
( lengthy instrumental intro )
445
00:21:23,036 --> 00:21:24,663
# Pump, pump, pump me up #
446
00:21:24,746 --> 00:21:26,582
# Like the man with the
super "S" on his cape #
447
00:21:26,665 --> 00:21:28,709
# Jump through the pump
and do great #
448
00:21:28,792 --> 00:21:30,794
# I'm DJ Rockin' and I can
pass the test #
449
00:21:30,878 --> 00:21:33,380
# Get down rappers
from east to west #
450
00:21:33,464 --> 00:21:35,591
# This party, please,
that party, please #
451
00:21:35,674 --> 00:21:37,801
# I'll pump them with
the greatest of ease #
452
00:21:37,885 --> 00:21:39,928
# This is DJ Rockin'
with the master beat #
453
00:21:40,012 --> 00:21:42,431
# With the boogie and the
sound that moves the feet #
454
00:21:42,514 --> 00:21:44,391
# - - Somebody say--
- - Get up! Get up! #
455
00:21:44,475 --> 00:21:46,602
# - - Somebody say--
- - Get up! Get up! #
456
00:21:46,685 --> 00:21:48,854
# You party good
you're going down #
457
00:21:48,937 --> 00:21:51,231
# You compliment
this funky sound #
458
00:21:51,315 --> 00:21:53,817
# Pump-pump-pump-pump me up!#
459
00:21:53,901 --> 00:21:55,777
- We caught...
460
00:21:55,861 --> 00:21:59,448
a freshly painted...
"Double-R,"
461
00:21:59,531 --> 00:22:02,409
and we spent about
three hours in it.
462
00:22:02,493 --> 00:22:03,577
- That's impossible.
463
00:22:03,660 --> 00:22:04,661
- No, it's not.
464
00:22:04,745 --> 00:22:05,829
We were tagging with the Units,
465
00:22:05,913 --> 00:22:07,414
then the "Minis,"
then the Marvies,
466
00:22:07,498 --> 00:22:09,750
then the "Pilots,"
then the Flo-pens
467
00:22:09,833 --> 00:22:10,792
and we were doing clouds
468
00:22:10,876 --> 00:22:13,420
around the tags
and 3-Ds on the tags--
469
00:22:13,504 --> 00:22:16,548
for the Double-Rs,
to have a clean car back then,
470
00:22:16,632 --> 00:22:19,551
it was... we just had an orgasm.
471
00:22:19,635 --> 00:22:21,678
# Pump-pump-pump me up! #
472
00:22:21,762 --> 00:22:25,766
Narrator: 1970-- the idea
of getting your name up,
473
00:22:25,849 --> 00:22:28,435
not just in your
neighborhood, but everywhere,
474
00:22:28,519 --> 00:22:30,812
was invented by
a kid named Taki,
475
00:22:30,896 --> 00:22:34,608
who lived on 183rd Street
in Washington Heights.
476
00:22:34,691 --> 00:22:36,693
Taki 183.
477
00:22:36,777 --> 00:22:39,488
As soon as everybody
understood that it was a name,
478
00:22:39,571 --> 00:22:42,282
they realized that
Taki was famous.
479
00:22:42,366 --> 00:22:43,784
Wasp: Taki 183 was
the first guy.
480
00:22:43,867 --> 00:22:46,411
Even though they say
Julio 204 started before him.
481
00:22:46,495 --> 00:22:47,955
But he was the one
who made it famous.
482
00:22:48,038 --> 00:22:50,457
Then, after him, in them
times, it was Papo 184.
483
00:22:50,541 --> 00:22:55,504
Then came out Junior 161,
Cay 161, they were bombing, too.
484
00:22:56,922 --> 00:23:00,008
Stitch came out around 1971.
He was all-city, too.
485
00:23:00,092 --> 00:23:02,469
Barbara, Eva 62,
they were girls.
486
00:23:02,553 --> 00:23:04,471
Everybody was writing.
487
00:23:04,555 --> 00:23:06,473
That was what everybody
was talking in them days.
488
00:23:06,557 --> 00:23:07,849
# - - Somebody say--
- - Get up! Get up! #
489
00:23:07,933 --> 00:23:10,310
# - - Somebody say...
- - Get up! Get up! #
490
00:23:10,394 --> 00:23:12,312
- I got into graffiti,
just like riding the trains,
491
00:23:12,396 --> 00:23:13,522
when I was younger.
492
00:23:13,605 --> 00:23:16,358
You know, looking at the old
writers' shit, you know?
493
00:23:16,441 --> 00:23:17,985
A lot of new writers around,
494
00:23:18,068 --> 00:23:20,654
you talk to them about
a lot of old writers,
495
00:23:20,737 --> 00:23:22,823
they don't know what
you're talking about.
496
00:23:22,906 --> 00:23:27,869
- I started in 1973
or 1974, during very...
497
00:23:28,120 --> 00:23:34,334
early years of initial bombing,
very important years
498
00:23:34,418 --> 00:23:35,127
of graffiti bombing.
499
00:23:35,168 --> 00:23:37,504
If it wasn't for those years,
I don't think we would
500
00:23:37,588 --> 00:23:38,672
get where we are today.
501
00:23:38,755 --> 00:23:39,673
That was the life back then.
502
00:23:39,756 --> 00:23:41,383
That was happening.
503
00:23:41,466 --> 00:23:43,552
Everybody was
pioneering back then.
504
00:23:43,635 --> 00:23:45,679
That's when all your
developing happened--
505
00:23:45,762 --> 00:23:47,556
your bubble letters,
all that kind of stuff.
506
00:23:47,639 --> 00:23:49,016
Your wild styles.
507
00:23:49,099 --> 00:23:53,770
# Pump-pump-pump-pump me up!#
508
00:23:53,854 --> 00:23:55,689
Crash: The wild styles.
509
00:23:55,772 --> 00:24:00,736
Noc: You don't have to do
straight letters to have style.
510
00:24:04,072 --> 00:24:06,533
Anything that comes
in your imagination
511
00:24:06,617 --> 00:24:08,869
adds onto your
own individual style.
512
00:24:08,952 --> 00:24:12,080
The arrow.
513
00:24:12,164 --> 00:24:16,001
Everybody's got their own arrow.
514
00:24:16,084 --> 00:24:21,048
I like that, though.
515
00:24:22,883 --> 00:24:25,719
Various arrow some guys have
on-the-letter arrow--
516
00:24:25,802 --> 00:24:28,764
that was like connection.
517
00:24:28,847 --> 00:24:31,683
Some people had
different arrows just going
518
00:24:31,767 --> 00:24:33,101
right through their pieces.
519
00:24:33,185 --> 00:24:35,395
# The funk is here so
you can go groove #
520
00:24:35,479 --> 00:24:37,397
# We want to make
your body move #
521
00:24:37,481 --> 00:24:40,567
# Pump-pump-pump-pump me up!#
522
00:24:40,651 --> 00:24:44,404
- Colors, designs, style,
technical advanced...
523
00:24:44,488 --> 00:24:45,405
- Get loose.
524
00:24:45,489 --> 00:24:46,406
- Get loose.
525
00:24:46,490 --> 00:24:47,449
Cartoons, everything.
526
00:24:47,532 --> 00:24:49,117
And when they see you
got a vicious style,
527
00:24:49,201 --> 00:24:50,911
they be wanting to
get loose about it,
528
00:24:50,994 --> 00:24:52,913
and that's what
keep it going.
529
00:24:52,996 --> 00:24:54,581
- That's what sparks graffiti.
530
00:24:54,665 --> 00:24:56,083
- Keep sparkin' it.
531
00:24:56,166 --> 00:24:58,919
- You know, I know
a lot of good writers,
532
00:24:59,002 --> 00:25:01,421
and all the writers that I knew,
they used to get up,
533
00:25:01,505 --> 00:25:02,673
so they used to tell me,
534
00:25:02,756 --> 00:25:04,758
"Trap, why don't you get up?"
535
00:25:04,841 --> 00:25:05,676
And I started
getting up with them,
536
00:25:05,759 --> 00:25:07,844
we started doing pieces.
537
00:25:07,928 --> 00:25:09,554
Then I met Dez--
538
00:25:09,638 --> 00:25:12,182
- One day, I came to the bench
and I seen him sitting there,
539
00:25:12,265 --> 00:25:13,892
looking at the pieces.
540
00:25:13,975 --> 00:25:16,144
You could tell a writer,
you know?
541
00:25:16,228 --> 00:25:17,979
You go to the Bench
and you see him
542
00:25:18,063 --> 00:25:20,774
as the trains go by,
he be going like this,
543
00:25:20,857 --> 00:25:23,193
you know, he have
ink stains on his clothes.
544
00:25:23,276 --> 00:25:26,154
- He gave me outlines
and stuff to practice--
545
00:25:26,238 --> 00:25:29,157
I can't let him go
for at least five minutes,
546
00:25:29,241 --> 00:25:31,118
or he'll destroy the piece.
547
00:25:31,201 --> 00:25:35,038
You know? I turn around,
"Trap, what you doing?
548
00:25:35,122 --> 00:25:36,456
I want to do my own piece."
549
00:25:36,540 --> 00:25:41,503
I said, "Yeah, but, you
know, follow the outline."
550
00:25:42,087 --> 00:25:46,925
- Russ, Russ!
551
00:25:47,008 --> 00:25:48,468
What's up, man?
552
00:25:48,552 --> 00:25:49,511
You know it.
553
00:25:49,594 --> 00:25:51,179
Chillin', man!
554
00:25:51,263 --> 00:25:52,180
Slick Rick!
555
00:25:52,264 --> 00:25:53,849
Slick Rick!
556
00:25:53,932 --> 00:25:57,102
And the Acey Base!
557
00:25:57,185 --> 00:25:59,938
For about two and a half
years I was upstate
558
00:26:00,021 --> 00:26:03,567
from like the beginning
of 1970 to '72.
559
00:26:03,650 --> 00:26:04,735
What's up?
560
00:26:04,818 --> 00:26:07,738
Hey, what's up?
561
00:26:07,821 --> 00:26:10,157
When I came home, I ain't know
nothing about no writing,
562
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,659
no graffiti, 'cause
I wasn't about it.
563
00:26:12,743 --> 00:26:16,163
All right, you know it.
564
00:26:16,246 --> 00:26:19,499
What's up, man?
565
00:26:19,583 --> 00:26:22,753
So, when I got home, I seen
writing on the train.
566
00:26:22,836 --> 00:26:25,046
I said, "What's
this stuff here?
567
00:26:25,130 --> 00:26:27,257
Those niggas doing
their names big."
568
00:26:27,340 --> 00:26:28,842
Said, "Let me do
one at least."
569
00:26:28,925 --> 00:26:32,179
'Cause I was down
with art already.
570
00:26:32,262 --> 00:26:35,098
And I did me a piece
for people in general
571
00:26:35,182 --> 00:26:39,102
to get to know who I am.
572
00:26:39,186 --> 00:26:42,063
I said, "Oh,
that looks all right.
573
00:26:42,147 --> 00:26:44,232
I'ma go every Sunday now."
574
00:26:44,316 --> 00:26:49,112
Next thing I know, I started
getting better and better.
575
00:26:49,196 --> 00:26:52,783
And as I realized, I knew to get
better, I said, "Oh, man,
576
00:26:52,866 --> 00:26:54,951
I'm going to bring out the
computer rock."
577
00:26:55,035 --> 00:26:56,870
And then that's when
I really got loose,
578
00:26:56,953 --> 00:27:01,875
'cause then niggas was saying,
"Yo, who's that guy?"
579
00:27:01,958 --> 00:27:04,169
Then one day,
these news reporters people
580
00:27:04,252 --> 00:27:05,879
was on train station--
581
00:27:05,962 --> 00:27:07,214
we was going by
and we seen them.
582
00:27:07,297 --> 00:27:09,841
We seen them filming
our whole car.
583
00:27:09,925 --> 00:27:11,551
We went up to them, and I
remember, I said,
584
00:27:11,635 --> 00:27:13,720
Who you think probably done
that right there?"
585
00:27:13,804 --> 00:27:15,847
Just to be curious
to see what they'd say.
586
00:27:15,931 --> 00:27:17,557
And they say, "I don't
know whoever done it,
587
00:27:17,641 --> 00:27:19,601
that's remarkable talent.
588
00:27:19,684 --> 00:27:24,648
I ain't never seen
nothing like this before."
589
00:27:25,315 --> 00:27:27,692
I said, "If I tol u I did
it, would you believe me?"
590
00:27:27,776 --> 00:27:29,194
He say, "I don'.
I can't say,
591
00:27:29,277 --> 00:27:31,780
but I believe so, 'cause
you don't know what you
592
00:27:31,863 --> 00:27:33,073
can believe these days."
593
00:27:33,156 --> 00:27:35,325
I said, "I did. then he
said, I don't believe that.
594
00:27:35,408 --> 00:27:36,868
You ain't got one arm."
595
00:27:36,952 --> 00:27:38,161
I said, "That
don't mean nothing.
596
00:27:38,245 --> 00:27:40,956
I do things that people don't
realize I can do with this.
597
00:27:41,039 --> 00:27:43,583
Being that I'm like this,
you know?"
598
00:27:43,667 --> 00:27:45,085
And then he said,
"I hear you there y."
599
00:27:45,168 --> 00:27:47,003
And I say, "I ain't no sonny.
600
00:27:47,087 --> 00:27:48,255
I just was asking you a
question, sir,
601
00:27:48,338 --> 00:27:52,259
that's all I wanted to know, to
see your feelings about it."
602
00:27:52,342 --> 00:27:53,969
( whistling )
603
00:27:54,052 --> 00:27:58,056
- Do you want to dance?
604
00:27:58,139 --> 00:27:59,599
- What's up?
605
00:27:59,683 --> 00:28:01,309
You getting some candy?
606
00:28:01,393 --> 00:28:03,937
Ain't getting nothing?
607
00:28:04,020 --> 00:28:05,272
Gimme some candy, man.
608
00:28:05,355 --> 00:28:10,318
Ain't got no candy?
609
00:28:11,194 --> 00:28:12,279
Hey, Gigolo!
610
00:28:12,362 --> 00:28:13,864
Whatcha know?
611
00:28:13,947 --> 00:28:15,323
Gigolo!
612
00:28:15,407 --> 00:28:18,994
Where that nigga at?
613
00:28:19,077 --> 00:28:21,079
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can dig it.
614
00:28:21,162 --> 00:28:22,330
- We goin' on the
other side, right?
615
00:28:22,414 --> 00:28:23,665
- Word.
616
00:28:23,748 --> 00:28:24,624
Wha-what?-what?-- gigolo.
617
00:28:24,708 --> 00:28:27,085
- What happpenin'?
618
00:28:27,168 --> 00:28:28,211
- The Beatmaster.
619
00:28:28,295 --> 00:28:30,088
- Do you want to dance?
620
00:28:30,171 --> 00:28:31,131
- Are you willing
to take a chance?
621
00:28:31,214 --> 00:28:34,426
- Look at that eye.
622
00:28:34,718 --> 00:28:35,886
- Word. Look at that eagle.
623
00:28:35,969 --> 00:28:36,887
Word.
624
00:28:36,970 --> 00:28:39,389
I said look at that eye.
625
00:28:39,472 --> 00:28:41,641
You know where he
got that from, right?
626
00:28:41,725 --> 00:28:43,101
From Vaughn Bode and who?
627
00:28:43,184 --> 00:28:45,186
Frank Frazetta!
628
00:28:45,270 --> 00:28:46,354
The Beatmaster.
629
00:28:46,438 --> 00:28:48,064
The letters is breakin' out.
630
00:28:48,148 --> 00:28:49,691
"The epic adventures
of a new kind of hero."
631
00:28:49,774 --> 00:28:52,277
That's what we're going to be.
The extraterrestrial brothers.
632
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:53,862
You know what I'm saying?
633
00:28:53,945 --> 00:28:55,155
Extra terrest!
634
00:28:55,238 --> 00:28:56,156
Knowing we the best.
635
00:28:56,239 --> 00:28:57,324
Know what I'm sayin'?
636
00:28:57,407 --> 00:29:01,661
( Train whistle blowing )
637
00:29:01,745 --> 00:29:04,039
- It's a Dezzy Dez and a Kasey
Kase -
638
00:29:04,122 --> 00:29:06,750
- And D-5, we're going
to rock the place -
639
00:29:06,833 --> 00:29:08,376
- And if you're based
in the place -
640
00:29:08,460 --> 00:29:11,129
- You will get disgraced,
because we are the crew -
641
00:29:11,212 --> 00:29:12,839
- That we got the place -
642
00:29:12,923 --> 00:29:15,258
- Rock-sock-it,
rock-it-in-a-pocket -
643
00:29:15,342 --> 00:29:17,886
- A sock-sock-it,
rock-it-in-a-pocket -
644
00:29:17,969 --> 00:29:20,180
- I say, pushed that girl in
front of the train -
645
00:29:20,263 --> 00:29:22,849
- Took her to the doctor,
sewed her arm on again -
646
00:29:22,933 --> 00:29:25,435
- Stabbed that man
right in his heart -
647
00:29:25,518 --> 00:29:27,938
- Gave him a transplant
for a brand new start -
648
00:29:28,021 --> 00:29:29,439
- Can't cut through the park -
649
00:29:29,522 --> 00:29:30,732
# 'Cause it's
crazy after dark #
650
00:29:30,815 --> 00:29:33,193
# Keep my hand on my gun, they
got me on the run #
651
00:29:33,276 --> 00:29:35,362
# I feel like a outlaw broke my
last glass jaw #
652
00:29:35,445 --> 00:29:36,863
# Hear them say,
"You want some more?"
653
00:29:36,947 --> 00:29:38,907
Living on a seesaw #
654
00:29:48,166 --> 00:29:50,794
# Broken glass everywhere,
people pissing on the stairs #
655
00:29:50,877 --> 00:29:53,004
# You know, they just don't
care, I can't take the smell #
656
00:29:53,088 --> 00:29:55,715
# Can't take the noise,
got no money to move out,
657
00:29:55,799 --> 00:29:57,008
I guess I got no choice #
658
00:29:57,092 --> 00:29:59,260
# Rats in the front room,
roaches in the back #
659
00:29:59,344 --> 00:30:01,721
# Junkies in the alley
with a baseball bat #
660
00:30:01,805 --> 00:30:04,057
# I tried to get away
but I couldn't get far #
661
00:30:04,140 --> 00:30:06,476
# 'Cause a man with a tow-truck
repossessed my car #
662
00:30:06,559 --> 00:30:11,272
# Don't push me 'cause
I'm close to the edge #
663
00:30:11,356 --> 00:30:15,235
# I'm trying not
to lose my head #
664
00:30:15,318 --> 00:30:17,404
- Ha-ha-ha! -
665
00:30:17,487 --> 00:30:19,906
Kase: Well, I know one thing
about graffiti, man.
666
00:30:19,990 --> 00:30:22,909
Niggas say it played out, niggas
say this, niggas say that.
667
00:30:22,993 --> 00:30:24,995
But, it's going
to keep going on.
668
00:30:25,078 --> 00:30:27,247
'Cause I might be old and quit,
but you coming up,
669
00:30:27,330 --> 00:30:30,834
younger niggas is coming up,
it's going to keep going and
670
00:30:30,917 --> 00:30:31,960
keep going, you know?
671
00:30:32,043 --> 00:30:35,839
'Cause you going to be a king
soon, too, you know?
672
00:30:35,922 --> 00:30:37,799
Dez: He's like a son to me,
in a way, you know.
673
00:30:37,882 --> 00:30:40,427
I look out for him
and he looks out for me.
674
00:30:40,510 --> 00:30:43,388
I won't let nothing
happen to him, you know?
675
00:30:43,471 --> 00:30:47,517
He won't let nothing happen
to me if he could help it.
676
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,102
I know for his age,
677
00:30:49,185 --> 00:30:53,106
he's 14 now, and I'm 16.
678
00:30:53,189 --> 00:30:54,441
About the time
he get my age,
679
00:30:54,524 --> 00:30:58,403
he be one of the
best people out.
680
00:30:58,486 --> 00:31:00,905
If he continues to go
on in the years,
681
00:31:00,989 --> 00:31:02,907
he can be another Picasso.
682
00:31:02,991 --> 00:31:06,411
( laughs )
683
00:31:06,494 --> 00:31:11,458
# Get funky in the place #
684
00:31:11,958 --> 00:31:16,921
# Get funky in the place #
685
00:31:18,465 --> 00:31:20,800
# Life ain't no more a joke,
it's a serious thing #
686
00:31:20,884 --> 00:31:23,470
# When you're dealing with the
answers that you can't explain #
687
00:31:23,553 --> 00:31:26,139
# It's the funky beat and
there's the funky beat #
688
00:31:26,222 --> 00:31:28,892
# And there's the funk,
the funk and the funky beat #
689
00:31:28,975 --> 00:31:31,561
# E-yah #
690
00:31:31,644 --> 00:31:34,355
# Like a little jelly bean
I'm a sweet like a candy cane #
691
00:31:34,439 --> 00:31:36,483
# I make you get down
this is number one stain #
692
00:31:36,566 --> 00:31:39,444
# On the train just groovin'
like a seesaw #
693
00:31:39,527 --> 00:31:41,154
# They're a-breakin' up,
yeah, yeah... #
694
00:31:41,237 --> 00:31:43,573
Narrator: The idea of
style and competing
695
00:31:43,656 --> 00:31:47,452
for the best style is the
key to all forms of rocking.
696
00:31:47,535 --> 00:31:49,996
# He can own the freak
a-like a little deak-deak #
697
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,956
# You're rockin' on #
698
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,250
With the rap M.C.,
it's rocking the mic
699
00:31:54,334 --> 00:31:58,171
for the B-boys, it's rocking
your body in break dancing.
700
00:31:58,254 --> 00:32:02,967
Or for writers, rocking the city
with your name on a train.
701
00:32:03,051 --> 00:32:07,347
# Get funky in the place #
702
00:32:07,430 --> 00:32:12,393
# Get funky in the place...#
703
00:32:14,395 --> 00:32:17,232
( Boombox playing )
704
00:32:17,315 --> 00:32:19,484
Lennie Len: Right now, he's
doing the footwork
705
00:32:19,567 --> 00:32:22,529
when original breaking came out.
706
00:32:25,323 --> 00:32:26,866
There he's doing
the baby and the turtle.
707
00:32:26,950 --> 00:32:27,992
- The back bridge.
708
00:32:28,076 --> 00:32:29,035
- Yeah.
709
00:32:29,119 --> 00:32:33,206
- He did the head spin
and then just went up.
710
00:32:33,289 --> 00:32:36,292
- I got a certain
backspin that I made up.
711
00:32:36,376 --> 00:32:37,418
Want me to show you it?
712
00:32:37,502 --> 00:32:40,171
I started off doing like this...
713
00:32:42,966 --> 00:32:44,425
and landing like that.
714
00:32:47,137 --> 00:32:50,014
So, then, I just...
decided not to do the freeze
715
00:32:50,098 --> 00:32:51,933
and keep on spinning.
716
00:32:52,016 --> 00:32:53,893
So it goes like this.
717
00:32:53,977 --> 00:32:56,187
I put my arm right here
and it's easy.
718
00:32:56,271 --> 00:32:58,064
And I push my arm
and swing my left leg--
719
00:32:58,148 --> 00:33:03,111
my right leg--
both of 'em around.
720
00:33:11,995 --> 00:33:13,454
- Other crews, they're
not as good as us,
721
00:33:13,538 --> 00:33:16,541
'cause we have
the breaking form.
722
00:33:16,624 --> 00:33:17,500
- Crazy Legs: Original style.
723
00:33:17,584 --> 00:33:18,501
- Yeah, original style.
724
00:33:18,585 --> 00:33:21,588
Other crews like
"Dynamic Rockers,"
725
00:33:21,671 --> 00:33:22,672
- they bite, usually--
726
00:33:22,755 --> 00:33:24,132
- Yeah, they bite!
727
00:33:24,215 --> 00:33:28,178
- Let me tell you about these
people, Dynamic Rockers.
728
00:33:28,678 --> 00:33:30,263
MC: One-two-one-two.
729
00:33:30,346 --> 00:33:31,306
One-two-one.
730
00:33:31,389 --> 00:33:32,432
Party people in the place!
731
00:33:32,515 --> 00:33:34,184
Rock Steady against
Dynamic Rockers!
732
00:33:34,267 --> 00:33:39,230
Rock on till the break of dawn!
733
00:33:39,731 --> 00:33:41,441
Crazy Legs in the house!
734
00:33:41,524 --> 00:33:43,651
Crazy Legs: This goes back...
when I used to go to the
735
00:33:43,735 --> 00:33:44,944
roller-skating rink,
736
00:33:45,028 --> 00:33:47,947
United Skates of America
in Queens, right?
737
00:33:48,031 --> 00:33:49,949
I used to go over there
to break against all of them
738
00:33:50,033 --> 00:33:51,075
and take them all out.
739
00:33:51,159 --> 00:33:54,704
You know, burn 'em,
make 'em look stupid.
740
00:33:54,787 --> 00:33:57,707
And they had no kind
of style at all.
741
00:33:57,790 --> 00:34:00,084
They was beginners.
742
00:34:00,168 --> 00:34:01,711
I been breaking way before them.
743
00:34:01,794 --> 00:34:06,549
Rammellzee: # A-rock-on
the kid the Crazy Legs... #
744
00:34:06,633 --> 00:34:09,219
Frosty Freeze: We started doing
better routines than they were.
745
00:34:09,302 --> 00:34:11,304
They got to a point where
they got mad at us because
746
00:34:11,387 --> 00:34:13,389
we was taking them
out with our moves.
747
00:34:13,473 --> 00:34:15,725
Then, that started
getting out of hand,
748
00:34:15,808 --> 00:34:17,644
because they had
the crowd and we didn't.
749
00:34:17,727 --> 00:34:20,605
MC: Yo! Whoever ain't in
Rock Steady or Dynamic,
750
00:34:20,688 --> 00:34:22,732
get behind the barriers!
751
00:34:22,815 --> 00:34:25,693
Yo! Both rockin' crews,
can you please listen?
752
00:34:25,777 --> 00:34:29,656
Nobody's listening to me.
753
00:34:29,739 --> 00:34:32,742
We're not going to
start until you move.
754
00:34:32,825 --> 00:34:35,745
Rockers, get ready.
755
00:34:35,828 --> 00:34:40,792
( Music playing )
756
00:34:42,460 --> 00:34:44,671
Frosty Freeze: Up-rock
is just like humiliating.
757
00:34:44,754 --> 00:34:49,717
Doing things in peoples'
faces and all that.
758
00:34:56,557 --> 00:34:58,768
And down-rocking, as you know,
is trying to see who
759
00:34:58,851 --> 00:35:01,688
can compete against whose
moves on the floor.
760
00:35:01,771 --> 00:35:03,439
MC rapping: # I was lookin'
out on the 33rd floor #
761
00:35:03,523 --> 00:35:05,400
# All of the sudden,
there was a knock on my door #
762
00:35:05,483 --> 00:35:07,360
# It was "Son of Sam"
with a .44 #
763
00:35:07,443 --> 00:35:09,445
# He blew a hole
straight through my door #
764
00:35:09,529 --> 00:35:11,030
# So I went to the
back to get the gun #
765
00:35:11,114 --> 00:35:13,157
# I was out two bullets,
had only one #
766
00:35:13,241 --> 00:35:15,159
# I shoot the shit,
I shot him in his eye #
767
00:35:15,243 --> 00:35:18,371
# Never saw a white man
jump so high. #
768
00:35:18,454 --> 00:35:19,622
MC: So who won
the rocking contest?
769
00:35:19,706 --> 00:35:21,207
( Crowd chants )
770
00:35:21,291 --> 00:35:22,208
Rock Steady!
771
00:35:22,292 --> 00:35:23,084
Rock Steady!
772
00:35:23,126 --> 00:35:24,377
Dynamic! Dynamic!
773
00:35:24,460 --> 00:35:25,586
- You all know who
took them out right?
774
00:35:25,670 --> 00:35:27,672
Put it this way, we're out
of sight and they bite.
775
00:35:27,755 --> 00:35:30,466
- They bit my turtle
into a hop--
776
00:35:30,550 --> 00:35:34,721
Oh, man. I could've
cried when I seen that.
777
00:35:34,804 --> 00:35:36,723
- You know, that faggot
that was flying around there
778
00:35:36,806 --> 00:35:38,766
with his funny legs and shit?
779
00:35:38,850 --> 00:35:41,561
- He's in gymnastics.
780
00:35:41,644 --> 00:35:43,062
- So what? So what?
781
00:35:43,146 --> 00:35:43,813
That's not even breaking.
782
00:35:43,855 --> 00:35:44,814
That's all fairy flying.
783
00:35:44,897 --> 00:35:47,108
I call that fairy flying.
784
00:35:47,191 --> 00:35:48,234
MC: Who goes for Rock Steady?
785
00:35:48,318 --> 00:35:50,820
( Crowd cheering )
786
00:35:50,903 --> 00:35:52,196
Dynamic Rockers?
787
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,324
( Heightened cheering )
788
00:35:54,407 --> 00:35:55,116
Hold it.
789
00:35:55,158 --> 00:35:56,075
Hold it down.
790
00:35:56,159 --> 00:35:56,826
It was a tie.
791
00:35:56,868 --> 00:35:58,828
It was a tie.
792
00:36:03,333 --> 00:36:06,336
# Ahh...yes...well #
793
00:36:06,419 --> 00:36:08,504
# Are we back for more? #
794
00:36:08,588 --> 00:36:10,131
# They're here #
795
00:36:10,214 --> 00:36:11,841
- # D-L-B # -
796
00:36:11,924 --> 00:36:13,092
# Ha-ha-ha-ha #
797
00:36:13,176 --> 00:36:14,093
- - Tito! - -
798
00:36:14,177 --> 00:36:15,094
# Ha-ha-ha-ha #
799
00:36:15,178 --> 00:36:16,095
- # Mike Cee # -
800
00:36:16,179 --> 00:36:17,096
# Hey girl!
801
00:36:17,180 --> 00:36:18,139
Hey girl! #
802
00:36:18,222 --> 00:36:19,307
- # Peso! # -
803
00:36:19,390 --> 00:36:20,308
# D-L-B #
804
00:36:20,391 --> 00:36:22,560
# Rockin' it, rockin'
it yes, he is rockin' it #
805
00:36:22,643 --> 00:36:24,854
# Tito is rockin'
it yes, he is rockin' it #
806
00:36:24,937 --> 00:36:27,440
# Mike Cee, yes,
he is rockin' it #
807
00:36:27,523 --> 00:36:29,859
# Peso, rockin'
it yes, he is rockin' it #
808
00:36:29,942 --> 00:36:32,445
# We're all rockin' it, you
should be rockin' it #
809
00:36:32,528 --> 00:36:36,157
# Rockin' it, rockin' it.#
810
00:36:36,240 --> 00:36:37,617
Woman: How do you fill up a
train like that?
811
00:36:37,700 --> 00:36:39,369
You can't do it overnight.
812
00:36:39,452 --> 00:36:41,871
Do you wait for the
same train coming back
813
00:36:41,954 --> 00:36:43,623
into the same station?
814
00:36:43,706 --> 00:36:45,792
- No, you get the parked train,
and you just---
815
00:36:45,875 --> 00:36:48,127
- Oh, you mean you go to the
subway yard.
816
00:36:48,211 --> 00:36:49,504
- Yeah.
817
00:36:49,587 --> 00:36:51,130
- Does your mother
wonder why you come home
818
00:36:51,214 --> 00:36:52,548
with that all over your face?
819
00:36:52,632 --> 00:36:54,467
- No, she knows I
write the graffiti.
820
00:36:54,550 --> 00:36:56,803
I told her, I say
I'm going up on the trains.
821
00:36:56,886 --> 00:36:58,388
I'm gonna go
write some graffiti.
822
00:36:58,471 --> 00:36:59,472
- Does she worry you
might get caught?
823
00:36:59,555 --> 00:37:00,556
- Yeah.
824
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,309
She says "If the cops call,
don't come running to me."
825
00:37:03,393 --> 00:37:05,478
- Um...
826
00:37:05,561 --> 00:37:08,815
I never realized
it meant so much to them.
827
00:37:08,898 --> 00:37:10,817
I just thought
they were writing...
828
00:37:10,900 --> 00:37:12,360
just writing anything.
829
00:37:12,443 --> 00:37:15,321
But I guess
it has a deep meaning.
830
00:37:15,405 --> 00:37:16,280
- Huh?
831
00:37:16,364 --> 00:37:17,698
- What kind of deep meaning?
832
00:37:17,782 --> 00:37:19,325
- Well, like he said...
833
00:37:19,409 --> 00:37:23,371
he's writing his
girlfriends' name.
834
00:37:23,454 --> 00:37:25,832
He's Dust,
whatever that means.
835
00:37:25,915 --> 00:37:27,166
What is Dust supposed to mean?
836
00:37:27,250 --> 00:37:28,543
It's just a name.
837
00:37:28,626 --> 00:37:30,253
It's a word, you know.
838
00:37:30,336 --> 00:37:31,462
See, it's a game.
839
00:37:31,546 --> 00:37:33,798
It's like, They give you
a name, and they say,
840
00:37:33,881 --> 00:37:35,842
"Here, take this name and do
something with it."
841
00:37:35,925 --> 00:37:37,343
Like, he got the name Seen.
842
00:37:37,427 --> 00:37:38,845
He can walk around, just say,
"My name is Seen,"
843
00:37:38,928 --> 00:37:41,514
and say, "Yeah, I seen that
there. I seen it there."
844
00:37:41,597 --> 00:37:43,433
It's a name. It's just like...
845
00:37:43,516 --> 00:37:44,600
I'll give you a
name and you say,
846
00:37:44,684 --> 00:37:46,310
"How big could you
get this name up?
847
00:37:46,394 --> 00:37:47,603
How high?"
848
00:37:47,687 --> 00:37:50,648
( train noise )
849
00:37:54,527 --> 00:37:56,696
Trains are routinely washed,
850
00:37:56,779 --> 00:37:58,656
but because of the
graffiti problem,
851
00:37:58,739 --> 00:38:01,784
we have to use a
graffiti removal solution,
852
00:38:01,868 --> 00:38:05,538
which, at best, is detrimental
to the physical make-up
853
00:38:05,621 --> 00:38:07,707
of the train itself.
854
00:38:07,790 --> 00:38:10,543
This is what I'm assigned.
855
00:38:10,626 --> 00:38:11,794
The car wash.
856
00:38:11,878 --> 00:38:13,629
8:00 a.m., Jamaica Yard.
857
00:38:13,713 --> 00:38:15,673
Hold your nose.
858
00:38:15,756 --> 00:38:18,384
Detective Jacobs: We spend
a lot of money replacing broken
859
00:38:18,468 --> 00:38:19,886
and damaged side windows.
860
00:38:19,969 --> 00:38:23,890
We cannot use...
acrylic plastic windows
861
00:38:23,973 --> 00:38:27,977
in the train, because the same
graffiti removal solution
862
00:38:28,060 --> 00:38:31,355
fogs the windows.
863
00:38:31,439 --> 00:38:33,232
Richard Ravitch: The problem
often is, that often it
864
00:38:33,316 --> 00:38:37,320
doesn't produce a sparkling
clean car, but rather,
865
00:38:37,403 --> 00:38:39,906
a sort of vomitous color,
866
00:38:39,989 --> 00:38:43,409
which some of the graffiti
artists argue is less
867
00:38:43,493 --> 00:38:46,787
attractive than what they
consider to be their artwork.
868
00:38:46,871 --> 00:38:50,249
So, it's altogether sort of an
unsatisfactory result.
869
00:38:50,333 --> 00:38:51,250
Motorman: Watch out.
870
00:38:51,334 --> 00:38:52,251
You might get wet now.
871
00:38:52,335 --> 00:38:54,337
Watch your shoes.
872
00:38:54,420 --> 00:38:57,840
It's not the best smelling
stuff, but so far,
873
00:38:57,924 --> 00:38:59,467
it hasn't hurt me.
874
00:38:59,550 --> 00:39:01,802
You know, it hasn't bothered me.
875
00:39:01,886 --> 00:39:05,765
Some fellows, it bothers.
876
00:39:05,848 --> 00:39:07,642
( Motorman coughs ) That's
877
00:39:07,725 --> 00:39:12,313
my money that's being diverted
from providing me with good,
878
00:39:12,396 --> 00:39:15,566
safe, secure, rapid transit.
879
00:39:15,650 --> 00:39:16,776
Look at this junk.
880
00:39:16,859 --> 00:39:18,402
Graffiti doesn't make
your life better;
881
00:39:18,486 --> 00:39:20,530
it just makes your
neighborhood look worse.
882
00:39:20,613 --> 00:39:22,448
You know how I made
something out of my life?
883
00:39:22,532 --> 00:39:23,699
- By using my hands.
884
00:39:23,783 --> 00:39:25,368
- But only in the ring.
885
00:39:25,451 --> 00:39:30,289
Don't use them to mess up the
walls with graffiti.
886
00:39:30,373 --> 00:39:32,291
- I've practiced all my life
to make moves like that.
887
00:39:32,375 --> 00:39:33,876
- And I worked every day
to be a singer.
888
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,711
So, if you really want to make
something out of your life,
889
00:39:35,795 --> 00:39:36,837
- Use your head.
890
00:39:36,921 --> 00:39:37,964
- Or your voice.
891
00:39:38,047 --> 00:39:40,633
But don't waste your
time making a mess.
892
00:39:40,716 --> 00:39:44,804
Harold Levine: Make your mark
in society, not on society.
893
00:39:44,887 --> 00:39:48,641
This happens to be
a poster that is...
894
00:39:48,724 --> 00:39:50,434
the first in a series.
895
00:39:50,518 --> 00:39:53,771
It's going to be used in New
York City's subways and buses,
896
00:39:53,854 --> 00:39:57,441
where we've used
Hector Camacho who's a boxer,
897
00:39:57,525 --> 00:39:59,360
North American
lightweight champ,
898
00:39:59,443 --> 00:40:02,405
and Alex Ramos, boxer,
leading middleweight contender.
899
00:40:02,488 --> 00:40:05,783
"Take it from the champs,
graffiti is for chumps.
900
00:40:05,866 --> 00:40:10,830
Make your mark in society,
not on society."
901
00:40:10,913 --> 00:40:12,748
- It's really very clever.
902
00:40:12,832 --> 00:40:14,834
"Put your mark on society,
903
00:40:14,917 --> 00:40:18,004
in doing something in society."
904
00:40:18,087 --> 00:40:19,672
I've screwed it up
a little bit,
905
00:40:19,755 --> 00:40:21,549
but, nevertheless,
you got the message.
906
00:40:21,632 --> 00:40:23,593
Reporter: Realistically,
do you think it will work?
907
00:40:23,676 --> 00:40:26,762
- You say realistically, I'm
hopeful that it will work.
908
00:40:26,846 --> 00:40:30,057
Nobody thought that we would be
as successful as we were
909
00:40:30,141 --> 00:40:33,936
in the campaign against the
drought and water conservation;
910
00:40:34,020 --> 00:40:35,605
nevertheless, that worked.
911
00:40:35,688 --> 00:40:37,898
I'm hopeful we will
have equal success here.
912
00:40:37,982 --> 00:40:39,859
Time will tell.
913
00:40:39,942 --> 00:40:42,612
Mr. Mayor, are those
posters graffiti-proof?
914
00:40:42,695 --> 00:40:44,739
Time will tell.
915
00:40:44,822 --> 00:40:48,367
( laughter )
916
00:40:48,451 --> 00:40:49,368
What you doing, B?
917
00:40:49,452 --> 00:40:50,369
Fresh?
918
00:40:50,453 --> 00:40:51,370
- It's fresh.
919
00:40:51,454 --> 00:40:52,788
- One of my little
signature series.
920
00:40:52,872 --> 00:40:54,081
- Word.
921
00:40:54,165 --> 00:40:57,084
Lord, you getting fresh
on a nigga, man.
922
00:40:57,168 --> 00:40:59,837
That nigga's still
got the touch, boy.
923
00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:03,466
Butchy-butch,
with the tiger skills
924
00:41:03,549 --> 00:41:05,635
- I see you did the "Kase"
with a "C" this time.
925
00:41:05,718 --> 00:41:07,887
- Yeah, he know who I am,
though, anyway.
926
00:41:07,970 --> 00:41:09,513
The king of what?
927
00:41:09,597 --> 00:41:11,724
The king of style.
928
00:41:11,807 --> 00:41:14,393
Sure, I got styles already
that's more complex
929
00:41:14,477 --> 00:41:16,646
that nobody know about.
930
00:41:16,729 --> 00:41:19,523
I mean, super-duty tough work.
931
00:41:19,607 --> 00:41:22,068
See, this is just semi-like,
what I would call it.
932
00:41:22,151 --> 00:41:25,071
But, if I really get into it
and start camouflaging it,
933
00:41:25,154 --> 00:41:30,034
I don't think you even
be able to read it.
934
00:41:30,117 --> 00:41:32,828
- Don't go nowhere... -
935
00:41:32,912 --> 00:41:37,166
Throw a little semi thing here.
936
00:41:37,249 --> 00:41:39,669
It wasn't no
severely bad accident,
937
00:41:39,752 --> 00:41:42,046
just that I got burnt
by wires, that's all.
938
00:41:42,129 --> 00:41:43,881
A long time ago.
939
00:41:43,964 --> 00:41:44,965
Electrical wires.
940
00:41:45,049 --> 00:41:46,759
And then they rushed me
to the hospital and
941
00:41:46,842 --> 00:41:48,719
they just had to amputate,
942
00:41:48,803 --> 00:41:52,807
'cause my tissues and
muscles was burnt bad.
943
00:41:52,890 --> 00:41:55,434
And I was young,
I was playing and I wasn't,
944
00:41:55,518 --> 00:41:56,602
you know, too sure--
945
00:41:56,686 --> 00:41:59,105
I knew what I was doing,
but I just didn't know
946
00:41:59,188 --> 00:42:01,524
should I grab the wire or not,
947
00:42:01,607 --> 00:42:02,942
I don't know if
I grabbed it or not,
948
00:42:03,025 --> 00:42:05,444
but I know I just,
you know, got hurt.
949
00:42:05,528 --> 00:42:07,822
'Cause it had knocked me out,
so I didn't remember.
950
00:42:10,700 --> 00:42:12,910
But that don't mean
nothing in general.
951
00:42:12,993 --> 00:42:15,955
I mean I'm okay.
952
00:42:16,038 --> 00:42:20,000
It's just, that was a bad
thing to happen at the time.
953
00:42:21,752 --> 00:42:24,046
But that's why people
are amazed about me now,
954
00:42:24,130 --> 00:42:26,006
'cause of going through that,
and then dealing with
955
00:42:26,090 --> 00:42:27,049
what I'm dealing with,
956
00:42:27,133 --> 00:42:29,093
even though it's common
little bull-crap in a way.
957
00:42:29,176 --> 00:42:32,138
People look at a person,
"What, you write on trains?
958
00:42:32,221 --> 00:42:34,140
Oh, you vandalism,"
and all that.
959
00:42:34,223 --> 00:42:35,474
Yeah, I vandalism.
960
00:42:35,558 --> 00:42:36,517
All right.
961
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,561
But still, in general,
I know what I'm doing.
962
00:42:38,644 --> 00:42:41,188
I did something to make
your eyes open up, right?
963
00:42:41,272 --> 00:42:42,982
So why are you
talking about it for?
964
00:42:43,065 --> 00:42:48,028
( slow Latin funk
music playing )
965
00:43:11,135 --> 00:43:16,056
Cap: From here up...
nobody goes but me.
966
00:43:16,140 --> 00:43:20,811
It's my lay-ups. Definitely.
967
00:43:20,895 --> 00:43:23,105
'Cause this is a beautiful
spot to do pieces on.
968
00:43:23,189 --> 00:43:27,860
Ain't hardly no writers
know about this place.
969
00:43:27,943 --> 00:43:29,195
My spot.
970
00:43:29,278 --> 00:43:30,237
Niggas know.
971
00:43:30,321 --> 00:43:31,238
Believe it.
972
00:43:31,322 --> 00:43:32,698
Niggas know.
973
00:43:32,782 --> 00:43:35,034
Heh-heh-heh.
974
00:43:35,117 --> 00:43:36,243
Yo. Here.
975
00:43:36,327 --> 00:43:42,875
Take the cans.
976
00:43:42,958 --> 00:43:45,211
I am not a graffiti artist.
977
00:43:45,294 --> 00:43:46,796
I'm a graffiti bomber.
978
00:43:46,879 --> 00:43:48,881
There's two styles of
graffiti that are trying to,
979
00:43:48,964 --> 00:43:51,175
you know, co-exist
with each other.
980
00:43:51,258 --> 00:43:54,804
But it ain't
gonna work like that.
981
00:43:54,887 --> 00:43:56,722
Blood wars, buddy.
982
00:43:56,806 --> 00:43:58,265
Blood wars.
983
00:43:58,349 --> 00:43:59,934
Min: That's why
graffiti's ruined.
984
00:44:00,017 --> 00:44:01,685
That Cap ruined the 2s and 5s.
985
00:44:01,769 --> 00:44:03,604
The 2s and 5s used
to go to the 2 yard.
986
00:44:03,687 --> 00:44:06,774
It would be a masterpiece
art gallery of burners
987
00:44:06,857 --> 00:44:09,109
from all these dudes from
the Bronx and Brooklyn
988
00:44:09,193 --> 00:44:10,861
with def wild styles.
989
00:44:10,945 --> 00:44:13,239
Now you go to the 2 yard,
it's all destroyed.
990
00:44:13,322 --> 00:44:15,866
This guy named Cap
with his Lucille Ball hairdo
991
00:44:15,950 --> 00:44:17,910
is going over all your burners.
992
00:44:17,993 --> 00:44:21,956
- Hey, what's up, Shy?
993
00:44:26,210 --> 00:44:29,713
- I've seen your new pieces
on the 2s and 5s.
994
00:44:29,797 --> 00:44:31,590
They went over that.
995
00:44:31,674 --> 00:44:32,591
- That Shy-Min.
996
00:44:32,675 --> 00:44:33,634
- Yeah, I know.
997
00:44:33,717 --> 00:44:34,635
- Cap.
998
00:44:34,718 --> 00:44:35,970
- Cap.
999
00:44:36,053 --> 00:44:37,221
I wouldn't have minded
if he would've went
1000
00:44:37,304 --> 00:44:39,598
over one of my old cars,
but that was fresh.
1001
00:44:39,682 --> 00:44:41,016
It was a brand new burner.
1002
00:44:41,100 --> 00:44:43,102
It only ran for
two days, you know?
1003
00:44:43,185 --> 00:44:45,187
He didn't give it a chance
to run on the line.
1004
00:44:45,271 --> 00:44:47,356
Just like... pow!
1005
00:44:47,439 --> 00:44:49,233
They went over it,
and now I feel...
1006
00:44:49,316 --> 00:44:51,277
that hurt me, you know?
1007
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:55,155
And Seen was with him, and PJ,
and then I called Seen up
1008
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:56,866
and he denied it.
1009
00:44:56,949 --> 00:44:58,284
- I can't afford
to get involved.
1010
00:44:58,367 --> 00:45:01,620
There's a war going on,
as you should know...
1011
00:45:01,704 --> 00:45:05,791
PJ and Cap--
against everybody.
1012
00:45:05,875 --> 00:45:09,253
He just crossed me out anyway,
so I don't know why.
1013
00:45:09,336 --> 00:45:11,630
Brand new car, too, he wasted.
1014
00:45:11,714 --> 00:45:14,967
Let's say this,
I stand behind them,
1015
00:45:15,050 --> 00:45:18,053
if they had a good cause
for the situation.
1016
00:45:18,137 --> 00:45:21,015
As far as it is now...
1017
00:45:21,098 --> 00:45:22,641
they have no cause behind it.
1018
00:45:22,725 --> 00:45:24,351
They're just doing it
for the hell of it...
1019
00:45:24,435 --> 00:45:26,312
which that ain't me,
because I wouldn't want
1020
00:45:26,395 --> 00:45:29,148
people to go over my pieces,
so I wouldn't go over them.
1021
00:45:29,231 --> 00:45:31,108
Shy: He's disrespecting
the line, which no other
1022
00:45:31,191 --> 00:45:32,943
guy was doing that years ago.
1023
00:45:33,027 --> 00:45:34,111
All he does is silver throw-ups.
1024
00:45:34,194 --> 00:45:36,155
You got fresh colored pieces,
full top-to-bottoms.
1025
00:45:36,238 --> 00:45:37,323
And you can't get him back.
1026
00:45:37,406 --> 00:45:39,158
And he'll just laugh at you.
1027
00:45:39,241 --> 00:45:40,159
"It's just a throw-up.
1028
00:45:40,242 --> 00:45:41,160
I've got a million
of 'em running."
1029
00:45:41,243 --> 00:45:44,163
He's a jealous toy, that's all,
'cause he can't do a burner.
1030
00:45:44,246 --> 00:45:45,873
- He can't do shit.
1031
00:45:45,956 --> 00:45:47,666
- He can't even do
a straight letter.
1032
00:45:47,750 --> 00:45:48,876
- He went over this?
1033
00:45:49,001 --> 00:45:50,002
- Yeah.
1034
00:45:50,085 --> 00:45:51,670
He did a Cap throw up over
me and a MPC over this,
1035
00:45:51,754 --> 00:45:53,881
and wrote war
next to Fat Albert.
1036
00:45:53,964 --> 00:45:55,174
- Oh, shit.
1037
00:45:55,257 --> 00:45:57,801
- You can't never
make up for that.
1038
00:45:57,885 --> 00:45:59,970
That's never forgive action.
1039
00:46:00,054 --> 00:46:01,347
- If you're a toy,
you got to be stopped.
1040
00:46:01,430 --> 00:46:05,225
This guy's a toy and he's big
and he's still got to be stopped.
1041
00:46:05,309 --> 00:46:07,019
Gotta break his arms.
1042
00:46:07,102 --> 00:46:08,687
- But how come we
waited all this long?
1043
00:46:08,771 --> 00:46:11,023
How come there's so many writers
that he went over their
1044
00:46:11,106 --> 00:46:13,275
burners and we're not in his
neighborhood with crews?
1045
00:46:13,359 --> 00:46:15,027
- Because nobody
wants to get united.
1046
00:46:15,110 --> 00:46:17,279
- We got to get together, bro'.
1047
00:46:17,363 --> 00:46:20,032
- Everybody that says, "We're
gonna get down," right?
1048
00:46:20,115 --> 00:46:22,701
But nobody comes, man.
1049
00:46:22,785 --> 00:46:24,370
What we got to do
is meet everybody
1050
00:46:24,453 --> 00:46:26,789
at 149th Street
at the Bench.
1051
00:46:26,872 --> 00:46:28,123
At the Grand Concourse.
1052
00:46:28,207 --> 00:46:30,125
- We should forget our
bullshit worries that
1053
00:46:30,209 --> 00:46:31,126
we got with each other,
1054
00:46:31,210 --> 00:46:33,796
unite and get this toy,
'cause he's dogging everybody...
1055
00:46:33,879 --> 00:46:37,299
( echoes )...everybody.
1056
00:46:37,383 --> 00:46:39,093
- Cap, I don't know,
some big white boy.
1057
00:46:39,176 --> 00:46:42,721
I don't know him,
I don't want to know him.
1058
00:46:42,805 --> 00:46:45,099
Yeah, that's why he's doing.
1059
00:46:45,182 --> 00:46:47,059
He's trying to get
attention and revenge,
1060
00:46:47,142 --> 00:46:49,269
'cause people go
over his throw-ups.
1061
00:46:49,353 --> 00:46:50,437
People who do burners--
1062
00:46:50,521 --> 00:46:51,939
you see a throw-up,
you're going to go over it.
1063
00:46:52,022 --> 00:46:54,316
Who thinks Cap's throw-ups
are worth being on a train?
1064
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:58,070
( Together ) Nobody!
1065
00:46:58,153 --> 00:46:59,071
- Pistol: What you write, bro'?
1066
00:46:59,154 --> 00:47:00,364
- I write Mare, man.
1067
00:47:00,447 --> 00:47:03,450
Pistol: Mear, M-E-A-R?
1068
00:47:03,534 --> 00:47:05,202
M-A-R-E.
1069
00:47:05,285 --> 00:47:06,745
- M-A-R-E, Mar?
1070
00:47:06,829 --> 00:47:08,247
- Yeah.
1071
00:47:08,330 --> 00:47:11,375
Mare.
1072
00:47:11,458 --> 00:47:12,501
Mar is M-A-R.
1073
00:47:12,584 --> 00:47:16,338
But no, seriously, you got to
kill them dudes for doing that.
1074
00:47:16,422 --> 00:47:17,423
- Who's Cap?
1075
00:47:17,506 --> 00:47:18,841
Cap is right here?
1076
00:47:18,924 --> 00:47:22,886
( Together ) No!
1077
00:47:34,023 --> 00:47:36,400
Cap: People don't know what
I look like until now.
1078
00:47:36,483 --> 00:47:38,277
Till they start
going to the movies.
1079
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:39,528
They're going to see my face.
1080
00:47:39,611 --> 00:47:42,948
Big deal.
1081
00:47:43,032 --> 00:47:45,784
Anybody tries to screw around
with me and my friends,
1082
00:47:45,868 --> 00:47:47,828
I go over everything
they got forever.
1083
00:47:47,911 --> 00:47:49,913
Everybody, from
Brooklyn to Manhattan.
1084
00:47:49,997 --> 00:47:54,960
Everybody.
1085
00:47:55,210 --> 00:47:57,963
And that's the way it is.
1086
00:47:58,047 --> 00:47:59,339
Especially with me.
1087
00:47:59,423 --> 00:48:02,885
The object is more.
1088
00:48:02,968 --> 00:48:06,847
Not the biggest and the
beautiful lest, but more.
1089
00:48:06,930 --> 00:48:09,349
It's like a little
piece on every car...
1090
00:48:09,433 --> 00:48:10,976
is what counts.
1091
00:48:11,060 --> 00:48:16,023
Not one whole car on every
30 cars that goes by.
1092
00:48:19,068 --> 00:48:21,361
Once you start going over
someone, you can't stop.
1093
00:48:21,445 --> 00:48:24,531
So, I'm gonna live.
1094
00:48:24,615 --> 00:48:26,450
Dust started pulling
some shit with me.
1095
00:48:26,533 --> 00:48:28,160
I'm telling you,
he's lucky we didn't
1096
00:48:28,243 --> 00:48:29,828
catch him by that wall.
1097
00:48:29,912 --> 00:48:32,498
If we would've been there, even
if you was shooting the movie,
1098
00:48:32,581 --> 00:48:34,458
it would've just been
boom-boom-boom!
1099
00:48:34,541 --> 00:48:38,253
And that's the way
it would've went.
1100
00:48:38,337 --> 00:48:40,839
- It's gonna get crossed off,
I guarantee, by tomorrow,
1101
00:48:40,923 --> 00:48:42,382
once they find out it's here.
1102
00:48:42,466 --> 00:48:43,884
Help me with the 3-D, Nicky.
1103
00:48:43,967 --> 00:48:46,428
Come on.
1104
00:48:46,512 --> 00:48:49,056
The piece has got a lot of
colors to go in there yet.
1105
00:48:49,139 --> 00:48:52,184
But with the color, we
could do that with no problem.
1106
00:48:52,267 --> 00:48:53,268
I could do it
before it gets dark.
1107
00:48:53,352 --> 00:48:54,436
No problem.
1108
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:59,483
Colors, colors, colors!
1109
00:49:04,321 --> 00:49:07,866
Cap: That was a beautiful wall.
1110
00:49:07,950 --> 00:49:11,954
I really liked that.
1111
00:49:12,037 --> 00:49:14,123
People like that,
they deserve getting
1112
00:49:14,206 --> 00:49:16,166
everything they
got crossed out...
1113
00:49:16,250 --> 00:49:21,213
forever.
1114
00:49:27,970 --> 00:49:29,179
- For the past 20 years,
1115
00:49:29,263 --> 00:49:30,597
there really hasn't
been anything hot.
1116
00:49:30,681 --> 00:49:32,891
There have been no
movements since Pop Art.
1117
00:49:32,975 --> 00:49:36,562
Any retailer, and let's face it,
a gallery is indeed a retailer,
1118
00:49:36,645 --> 00:49:38,188
they're always looking
for something hot
1119
00:49:38,272 --> 00:49:41,233
that they can merchandise
and sell to the public.
1120
00:49:41,316 --> 00:49:45,445
- It's almost as though
these pieces were peeled off
1121
00:49:45,529 --> 00:49:47,906
the train and put onto canvas,
1122
00:49:47,990 --> 00:49:50,909
so you have the same energy,
you have the same coloring,
1123
00:49:50,993 --> 00:49:53,662
you have the same intensity
and the same big piece
1124
00:49:53,745 --> 00:49:56,081
that you would see on a train.
1125
00:49:56,165 --> 00:49:59,918
The real subway graffiti
that's done on the trains
1126
00:50:00,002 --> 00:50:03,589
is slowly dying out,
and this is taking its place.
1127
00:50:03,672 --> 00:50:05,966
The lifespan of an
average piece today
1128
00:50:06,049 --> 00:50:07,593
only lasts a few months.
1129
00:50:07,676 --> 00:50:11,555
This is something that
could last a lifetime.
1130
00:50:11,638 --> 00:50:14,558
Woman: "Blondie" seems to be
an important figure within
1131
00:50:14,641 --> 00:50:17,936
the graffiti art style.
1132
00:50:18,020 --> 00:50:21,565
Cain has used her in a
very photographic way.
1133
00:50:21,648 --> 00:50:26,612
Noc, shows her...
expressionistically.
1134
00:50:29,072 --> 00:50:29,990
I'm a colorist myself.
1135
00:50:30,073 --> 00:50:31,074
I'm an artist.
1136
00:50:31,158 --> 00:50:34,119
And it's exciting.
1137
00:50:34,203 --> 00:50:37,331
The color is exciting,
the movement is exciting.
1138
00:50:37,414 --> 00:50:40,542
It combines all
kinds of movement.
1139
00:50:40,626 --> 00:50:42,461
Man: We had ABC-TV.
1140
00:50:42,544 --> 00:50:44,296
We had CBS here tonight.
1141
00:50:44,379 --> 00:50:46,673
We're going to be on the news
tonight at eleven o'clock.
1142
00:50:46,757 --> 00:50:49,176
National Public Radio.
1143
00:50:49,259 --> 00:50:51,303
- Do it up, baby.
1144
00:50:51,386 --> 00:50:52,387
I love it.
1145
00:50:52,471 --> 00:50:53,972
- I'm Ron Powers.
1146
00:50:54,056 --> 00:50:55,724
I'm a reporter with
the Associated Press.
1147
00:50:55,807 --> 00:50:57,309
- How long would it take you to
do something like this?
1148
00:50:57,392 --> 00:50:58,477
- On a train?
1149
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,312
Depends on what
your schedule is.
1150
00:51:00,395 --> 00:51:03,315
I can't let my mother know
that I'm going to the trains,
1151
00:51:03,398 --> 00:51:05,567
so I have to be back early.
1152
00:51:05,651 --> 00:51:08,111
Woman: But I did meet a guy here
who's an art critic from the
1153
00:51:08,195 --> 00:51:10,280
news, and he says
he gets so goddamn mad
1154
00:51:10,364 --> 00:51:12,991
every time he sees this,
that he walked up
1155
00:51:13,075 --> 00:51:14,743
to one of the artist
at the show tonight and said,
1156
00:51:14,826 --> 00:51:17,287
"How would you feel
if I took a can and
1157
00:51:17,371 --> 00:51:19,248
wrote on your graffiti?"
1158
00:51:19,331 --> 00:51:23,293
And the artist said to him,
"I kill you, man."
1159
00:51:23,377 --> 00:51:27,422
As an investment, I feel
so strongly that if you
1160
00:51:27,506 --> 00:51:29,174
get in on the
bottom of anything,
1161
00:51:29,258 --> 00:51:30,509
it's got to be a
good investment.
1162
00:51:30,592 --> 00:51:32,719
This is definitely
going some place.
1163
00:51:32,803 --> 00:51:36,556
But I think that graffiti
on the subway cars
1164
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:41,311
were a symbol of New York
for foreign people,
1165
00:51:41,395 --> 00:51:43,355
especially French people.
1166
00:51:43,438 --> 00:51:48,402
And I think it's a little
sad if graffiti is going
1167
00:51:48,568 --> 00:51:51,530
to be only on canvas,
and not anymore on trains.
1168
00:51:51,613 --> 00:51:53,198
Forget about the trains.
1169
00:51:53,282 --> 00:51:54,658
Who wants to be dirty
and hot at the same time?
1170
00:51:54,741 --> 00:51:55,784
That's right.
1171
00:51:55,867 --> 00:51:57,035
I'm into making money.
1172
00:51:57,119 --> 00:51:58,287
It feels good.
1173
00:51:58,370 --> 00:51:59,705
You go to school
and the teacher says,
1174
00:51:59,788 --> 00:52:01,498
"It's not worth anything.
1175
00:52:01,581 --> 00:52:03,208
You don't make any
money from graffiti."
1176
00:52:03,292 --> 00:52:05,127
And you tell them,
"When was the last time
1177
00:52:05,210 --> 00:52:08,463
you made $2,000
in a month, huh?"
1178
00:52:08,547 --> 00:52:12,050
And you go,
"Okay, now you failed."
1179
00:52:12,134 --> 00:52:13,802
- All right, the thought
has crossed my mind, yeah
1180
00:52:13,885 --> 00:52:16,138
if something should happen,
I'll go along with it,
1181
00:52:16,221 --> 00:52:18,724
but if it doesn't,
it's no thing to me,
1182
00:52:18,807 --> 00:52:20,309
because that's not what
I'm out here for.
1183
00:52:20,392 --> 00:52:21,560
I'm out here to bomb, period.
1184
00:52:21,643 --> 00:52:23,061
That's what I started for.
1185
00:52:23,145 --> 00:52:24,396
I didn't start
writing to go Paris.
1186
00:52:24,479 --> 00:52:25,772
I didn't start
writing to do canvases.
1187
00:52:25,856 --> 00:52:27,441
I started writing to bomb.
1188
00:52:27,524 --> 00:52:29,151
To destroy all lines.
1189
00:52:29,234 --> 00:52:30,444
- That's what I'm doing.
1190
00:52:30,527 --> 00:52:31,611
- How long do you
think you'll do it?
1191
00:52:31,695 --> 00:52:34,656
Till I'm finished.
1192
00:52:36,825 --> 00:52:38,744
- Now that you've heard that,
you understand what I'm saying
1193
00:52:38,827 --> 00:52:41,163
to you when I say I
don't understand him.
1194
00:52:41,246 --> 00:52:43,332
He's out there to bomb,
destroy all lines.
1195
00:52:43,415 --> 00:52:47,377
What have the lines
ever done to him?
1196
00:52:47,461 --> 00:52:48,670
- They made me pay 75 cents.
1197
00:52:48,754 --> 00:52:50,422
- When do you pay 75 cents?
1198
00:52:50,505 --> 00:52:51,715
- Never but--
1199
00:52:51,798 --> 00:52:53,425
- I don't even know what
you're talking about.
1200
00:52:53,508 --> 00:52:58,472
( Cheering, music playing )
1201
00:53:02,267 --> 00:53:03,769
We're on the
Staten Island Ferry.
1202
00:53:03,852 --> 00:53:05,520
This is the New York Harbor.
1203
00:53:05,604 --> 00:53:07,564
This is to signify
we're leaving New York
1204
00:53:07,647 --> 00:53:11,234
with this package of artists
to go out and play at places
1205
00:53:11,318 --> 00:53:14,112
where, individually,
they never would play.
1206
00:53:14,196 --> 00:53:16,615
It will be in Washington DC,
Pittsburgh, Chicago, Madison,
1207
00:53:16,698 --> 00:53:20,452
Minneapolis, Iowa City,
Detroit and Toronto.
1208
00:53:20,535 --> 00:53:22,120
- Being professional,
what does that mean?
1209
00:53:22,204 --> 00:53:23,288
- Getting paid for what you do.
1210
00:53:23,372 --> 00:53:24,664
Professional.
1211
00:53:24,748 --> 00:53:26,249
Frosty Freeze: Having
your own style.
1212
00:53:26,333 --> 00:53:28,418
Skippy Dee: Doing
your own moves.
1213
00:53:28,502 --> 00:53:30,128
Don't let nobody else
bite your moves.
1214
00:53:30,212 --> 00:53:32,214
Doing it for a long time.
1215
00:53:32,297 --> 00:53:34,216
Being the best.
1216
00:53:37,260 --> 00:53:38,428
- # Special-K # -
1217
00:53:38,512 --> 00:53:40,138
# Sunshine #
1218
00:53:40,222 --> 00:53:41,223
# Kool Mo-Dee #
1219
00:53:41,306 --> 00:53:42,599
# All time feel the heartbeat #
1220
00:53:42,682 --> 00:53:44,643
# Feel the heartbeat
we're the treacherous three #
1221
00:53:44,726 --> 00:53:49,689
# We got a new heartbeat #
1222
00:53:55,570 --> 00:53:57,823
# Get loose, get loose
Mo-Dee get loose #
1223
00:53:57,906 --> 00:53:59,157
# Just one heartbeat
show 'em you got juice #
1224
00:53:59,241 --> 00:54:00,325
- # Have fun # -
1225
00:54:00,409 --> 00:54:01,368
# Have fun #
1226
00:54:01,451 --> 00:54:02,369
- # Have fun # -
1227
00:54:02,452 --> 00:54:05,247
# Ha-ha-have fun #
1228
00:54:05,330 --> 00:54:06,790
# Party people got
a brand new treat #
1229
00:54:06,873 --> 00:54:08,917
# Off the well known tune
we call heartbeat #
1230
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,461
# But we jazzed it up
and we broke it down #
1231
00:54:11,545 --> 00:54:13,713
# And came out with
a brand new funky sound #
1232
00:54:13,797 --> 00:54:15,841
# Now, I came here
to get this straight #
1233
00:54:15,924 --> 00:54:18,343
# Our heartbeat's
not on a normal break #
1234
00:54:18,427 --> 00:54:20,679
# 'Cause when we get
excited our adrenaline flows #
1235
00:54:20,762 --> 00:54:22,889
# And this is the way
our heartbeat goes #
1236
00:54:22,973 --> 00:54:25,392
# A hop-skip-and-a-jump
but I play no bump #
1237
00:54:25,475 --> 00:54:27,602
# Bump-bump-bump-bump
bumpety-bump #
1238
00:54:27,686 --> 00:54:29,855
# It's a brand new treat
and it sounds so sweet #
1239
00:54:29,938 --> 00:54:32,399
# The rapping, the music
our new heartbeat #
1240
00:54:32,482 --> 00:54:34,734
# So feel the heartbeat,
so feel the heartbeat #
1241
00:54:34,818 --> 00:54:36,862
# We're the treacherous three,
we got a new heartbeat #
1242
00:54:36,945 --> 00:54:38,864
# Hah! #
1243
00:54:38,947 --> 00:54:43,910
- Consider us the professionals.
1244
00:54:46,830 --> 00:54:49,291
Woman: I think it's about
time the politicians came down
1245
00:54:49,374 --> 00:54:51,501
and looked and saw
what is on these trains.
1246
00:54:51,585 --> 00:54:53,545
It is just awful.
1247
00:54:53,628 --> 00:54:55,297
- It shouldn't be that way.
1248
00:54:55,380 --> 00:54:56,923
It should be cleaned, and
the ones that are caught,
1249
00:54:57,007 --> 00:55:01,261
they should clean it-- the o
ones they catch doing that.
1250
00:55:01,344 --> 00:55:04,389
- What's the sense of paying 75
cents when you have to ride
1251
00:55:04,473 --> 00:55:05,974
graffiti trains, you know?
1252
00:55:06,057 --> 00:55:08,393
- It gives a terrible
impression of the city.
1253
00:55:08,477 --> 00:55:09,895
And if you think
the outside is bad--
1254
00:55:09,978 --> 00:55:11,855
I've been riding them,
like I say, for 40 years--
1255
00:55:11,938 --> 00:55:13,899
the inside is just unbelievable.
1256
00:55:13,982 --> 00:55:15,942
- It's a violation
of public property.
1257
00:55:16,026 --> 00:55:17,652
- I think it's disgusting.
1258
00:55:17,736 --> 00:55:19,863
- They should get somebody to
clean up the damn place.
1259
00:55:19,946 --> 00:55:24,910
- We move three and a
half million people a day.
1260
00:55:25,494 --> 00:55:27,829
They have rights, too.
1261
00:55:27,913 --> 00:55:29,247
( train screeching to stop )
1262
00:55:29,331 --> 00:55:31,541
- The people see
the outside of the cars
1263
00:55:31,625 --> 00:55:34,753
when the trains are going--
pull into the station,
1264
00:55:34,836 --> 00:55:37,464
or when they're passing
on the express track.
1265
00:55:37,547 --> 00:55:39,716
And then it's generally a blur.
1266
00:55:39,799 --> 00:55:41,551
But I don't think
the public finds that
1267
00:55:41,635 --> 00:55:46,473
nearly as intrusive and ugly as
they do the inside graffiti.
1268
00:55:46,890 --> 00:55:47,933
- He hates the insides.
1269
00:55:48,016 --> 00:55:49,684
- Yeah, he hates the insides.
1270
00:55:49,768 --> 00:55:52,812
He said if there's any
possible way of we giving him
1271
00:55:52,896 --> 00:55:56,358
some kind of suggestion of
how to get rid of the inside,
1272
00:55:56,441 --> 00:55:59,611
he said there might
be a chance of "negotiating"
1273
00:55:59,694 --> 00:56:01,530
with the outside.
1274
00:56:01,613 --> 00:56:03,281
- "Negogiading?"
1275
00:56:03,365 --> 00:56:04,574
- Something like that.
1276
00:56:04,658 --> 00:56:08,537
I met with a group
of them one day.
1277
00:56:08,620 --> 00:56:10,956
More out of intellectual
curiosity as to who
1278
00:56:11,039 --> 00:56:13,416
they were and
what made them tick.
1279
00:56:13,500 --> 00:56:15,460
I found them
surprisingly articulate.
1280
00:56:15,544 --> 00:56:22,425
They expressed a strong sense
that if their outside paintings
1281
00:56:22,717 --> 00:56:27,681
were left untouched, that
the public would be impressed.
1282
00:56:29,057 --> 00:56:31,017
We came up to him
with a proposal to paint
1283
00:56:31,101 --> 00:56:35,939
10 cars inside and out and let
it run in the major stations.
1284
00:56:36,022 --> 00:56:38,942
- And let people vote on it,
let's say a two-week period,
1285
00:56:39,025 --> 00:56:43,363
and after the two-week period,
they'll have the results in the
1286
00:56:43,446 --> 00:56:47,325
paper, and I think the
MTA will be embarrassed.
1287
00:56:47,409 --> 00:56:49,661
- I thought there was no basis
whatsoever in which it was
1288
00:56:49,744 --> 00:56:54,708
proper for anyone
to touch our property
1289
00:56:55,750 --> 00:56:57,627
in an unauthorized fashion.
1290
00:56:57,711 --> 00:56:58,837
- They got guys out there
1291
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:00,922
that are mugging
people in the subways,
1292
00:57:01,006 --> 00:57:04,342
stabbing people, throwing people
into the tracks and all that,
1293
00:57:04,426 --> 00:57:08,388
and they're wasting their
bullshit money trying to get us.
1294
00:57:08,471 --> 00:57:11,016
- With all respect,
I think you are close
1295
00:57:11,099 --> 00:57:15,478
to falling into the trap
of the 1960s culture,
1296
00:57:15,562 --> 00:57:19,608
which says this society
has left these kids
1297
00:57:19,691 --> 00:57:22,527
with not enough to do.
1298
00:57:22,611 --> 00:57:24,362
If the kids have energy
and want to do something,
1299
00:57:24,446 --> 00:57:28,658
we'll give them all brooms,
we'll give them all sponges,
1300
00:57:28,742 --> 00:57:31,369
and they can do something
that is publicly productive,
1301
00:57:31,453 --> 00:57:34,914
useful and that would
earn for them the respect
1302
00:57:34,998 --> 00:57:37,834
and approbation
of their fellow citizens.
1303
00:57:37,917 --> 00:57:40,712
It isn't the energy
that is misplaced,
1304
00:57:40,795 --> 00:57:43,965
it's the value system
that is misplaced.
1305
00:57:44,049 --> 00:57:49,012
( Wagnerian orchestral
music plays )
1306
00:58:36,184 --> 00:58:38,937
- I think it's great
for the riding public
1307
00:58:39,020 --> 00:58:41,898
to be up on the station,
one cold and dreary day
1308
00:58:41,981 --> 00:58:45,193
and see a nice white,
shiny car come pulling
1309
00:58:45,276 --> 00:58:46,820
up to the station.
1310
00:58:46,903 --> 00:58:48,738
- The public has
knocked us for so long,
1311
00:58:48,822 --> 00:58:50,532
that we are doing nothing.
1312
00:58:50,615 --> 00:58:51,616
It couldn't be done.
1313
00:58:51,700 --> 00:58:53,034
We proved that we done it.
1314
00:58:53,118 --> 00:58:56,454
- We painted 409 cars in
approximately eight weeks.
1315
00:58:56,538 --> 00:58:58,790
24 hours a day,
seven days a week
1316
00:58:58,873 --> 00:59:01,459
and not one day did we miss
that production schedule.
1317
00:59:01,543 --> 00:59:04,212
- Our personal pride was hurt.
A lot of people been knocking
1318
00:59:04,295 --> 00:59:07,132
the transit authority,
and we wanted to show
1319
00:59:07,215 --> 00:59:08,717
them that we
could do something.
1320
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,177
If the Japanese can do it,
we can do it.
1321
00:59:17,726 --> 00:59:19,144
Man: The stuff is
like razor blades--
1322
00:59:19,227 --> 00:59:21,646
about two inches long
and there's one of these
1323
00:59:21,730 --> 00:59:22,897
every two inches.
1324
00:59:22,981 --> 00:59:24,774
There's really not too much
protective clothing you
1325
00:59:24,858 --> 00:59:27,736
can wear to prevent
yourself from getting cut.
1326
00:59:27,819 --> 00:59:30,530
And once you do fall into it,
it's so structured that it
1327
00:59:30,613 --> 00:59:33,491
collapses upon you
and the more you try to move,
1328
00:59:33,575 --> 00:59:35,034
the worse off you become.
1329
00:59:35,118 --> 00:59:37,829
- It's like in the movies,
like in "Apocalypse Now,"
1330
00:59:37,912 --> 00:59:40,582
they used it to protect their
lines and their barricades.
1331
00:59:40,665 --> 00:59:45,628
They want to hold back the enemy
from destroying our trains.
1332
00:59:57,932 --> 01:00:02,020
Mayor Koch: About three years
ago, I decided to suggest
1333
01:00:02,103 --> 01:00:07,066
to Dick Ravitch that
they put a dog in the yard
1334
01:00:08,151 --> 01:00:10,779
to keep the
graffiti vandals out.
1335
01:00:10,862 --> 01:00:15,825
The MTA rejected it
and they said, no,
1336
01:00:16,117 --> 01:00:18,036
that if you put a dog
in the yard, the dog
1337
01:00:18,119 --> 01:00:19,537
would step on the third rail.
1338
01:00:19,621 --> 01:00:20,997
Now, I don't happen
to think that dogs step
1339
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,750
on the third rail,
but I said in response to that,
1340
01:00:23,833 --> 01:00:26,252
you think the dog
will step on the third rail,
1341
01:00:26,336 --> 01:00:29,214
then build two fences
and have the dog run between
1342
01:00:29,297 --> 01:00:32,217
the two fences and that
will keep people out and
1343
01:00:32,300 --> 01:00:34,844
protect the dog from
stepping on the third rail. "
1344
01:00:34,928 --> 01:00:37,764
And the response was,
"Maybe somebody will climb
1345
01:00:37,847 --> 01:00:41,059
over the fence and
the dog will bite them."
1346
01:00:41,142 --> 01:00:43,728
I said, "I though at was
what the dog was for."
1347
01:00:43,812 --> 01:00:48,316
But if you're afraid of having
the dog bite such a vandal,
1348
01:00:48,399 --> 01:00:52,821
and here I called upon my
prodigious memory, I said,
1349
01:00:52,904 --> 01:00:55,073
"What you should do then,
instead of using a dog,
1350
01:00:55,156 --> 01:00:57,909
is to use a wolf,
and have a wolf run
1351
01:00:57,992 --> 01:00:59,285
between the two fences.
1352
01:00:59,369 --> 01:01:04,332
Because there is
no recorded case in history
1353
01:01:04,749 --> 01:01:07,293
where a wolf has ever attacked
1354
01:01:07,377 --> 01:01:11,923
a human being unless the
wolf were rabid-- mad."
1355
01:01:12,006 --> 01:01:15,677
As a result of telling that
story innumerable times,
1356
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:19,138
I embarrassed the MTA
into building the fence
1357
01:01:19,222 --> 01:01:24,185
around the first of 19 yards.
And it was so successful
1358
01:01:24,435 --> 01:01:27,605
they now claim it as their
own idea and they're building
1359
01:01:27,689 --> 01:01:29,107
18 more fences.
1360
01:01:29,190 --> 01:01:34,153
( Wagnerian orchestral
music plays )
1361
01:01:55,049 --> 01:01:56,634
Iz: I think it's stupid.
1362
01:01:56,718 --> 01:01:58,970
The idea of having
all this barbed wire
1363
01:01:59,053 --> 01:02:00,930
and fences and protection.
1364
01:02:01,014 --> 01:02:03,182
Trains are still
going to get written on.
1365
01:02:03,266 --> 01:02:05,977
- They invented
the white elephant.
1366
01:02:06,060 --> 01:02:09,814
It's still got--
well, they weren't bombed,
1367
01:02:09,898 --> 01:02:11,149
but they had
little mosquito bites.
1368
01:02:11,232 --> 01:02:12,692
Call it what you want.
1369
01:02:12,775 --> 01:02:14,319
They were still written on.
1370
01:02:14,402 --> 01:02:17,363
They're still
not spotless, completely.
1371
01:02:17,447 --> 01:02:18,907
- "Dump Koch."
1372
01:02:18,990 --> 01:02:20,950
Well, there you go.
1373
01:02:21,034 --> 01:02:23,828
That is the highest
praise imaginable because,
1374
01:02:23,912 --> 01:02:28,875
obviously, I'm getting to them.
1375
01:02:37,926 --> 01:02:38,843
There always will be graffiti.
1376
01:02:38,927 --> 01:02:39,886
It's a part of New York.
1377
01:02:39,969 --> 01:02:41,679
It'll be there forever.
1378
01:02:41,763 --> 01:02:43,389
Someone will always want
to jump down on the track,
1379
01:02:43,473 --> 01:02:46,017
or while the train's
moving and just take out
1380
01:02:46,100 --> 01:02:49,437
a can of paint or a marker
and put up their initial.
1381
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:51,856
- He still shows me
all his things,
1382
01:02:51,940 --> 01:02:56,319
which I don't
even want to see.
1383
01:02:56,402 --> 01:02:58,237
But we still talk.
1384
01:02:58,321 --> 01:03:00,239
He tells me just about
everything that goes on.
1385
01:03:00,323 --> 01:03:01,449
Other than that,
I wouldn't really be able
1386
01:03:01,532 --> 01:03:03,076
to tell you so much.
1387
01:03:03,159 --> 01:03:05,995
And, like sometimes--
knowing all this,
1388
01:03:06,079 --> 01:03:09,374
it just really only makes me
that much more fearful for him.
1389
01:03:09,457 --> 01:03:11,000
- I felt that I just
had to let her know,
1390
01:03:11,084 --> 01:03:13,419
'cause sometimes when
it's time to go bombing,
1391
01:03:13,503 --> 01:03:16,047
you got to go late at night
in the middle of the night.
1392
01:03:16,130 --> 01:03:18,007
You've got to leave
the house at 2:00
1393
01:03:18,091 --> 01:03:22,470
just to go bombing
so you don't get caught.
1394
01:03:22,553 --> 01:03:24,973
You know, she got
to know where I'm going,
1395
01:03:25,056 --> 01:03:26,391
can't just say
I'm going to a party.
1396
01:03:26,474 --> 01:03:28,393
No party's going
to start at 2:00.
1397
01:03:28,476 --> 01:03:30,353
- Not every kid would tell
his mother where he's going.
1398
01:03:30,436 --> 01:03:35,066
- Yeah, well, I'd rather let
my mother know what's going on,
1399
01:03:35,817 --> 01:03:37,068
you know, than
keep her in the dark.
1400
01:03:37,151 --> 01:03:38,945
If I get busted, cops call,
1401
01:03:39,028 --> 01:03:41,489
"Excuse me, we have
your son for graffiti."
1402
01:03:41,572 --> 01:03:44,450
And I'd rather let her
know that I was doing it
1403
01:03:44,534 --> 01:03:49,163
so she's prepared
to come and get me out.
1404
01:03:49,247 --> 01:03:50,373
But, I'm never getting busted,
1405
01:03:50,456 --> 01:03:55,378
so we don't have
to worry about that.
1406
01:04:02,301 --> 01:04:04,262
Dondi: I mean, an adult,
1407
01:04:04,345 --> 01:04:07,932
I just couldn't see an adult
ever putting that much energy
1408
01:04:08,016 --> 01:04:09,976
into something that
isn't going to pay,
1409
01:04:10,059 --> 01:04:12,103
or is going to risk
their life or have
1410
01:04:12,186 --> 01:04:15,314
the possibility of
them getting arrested.
1411
01:04:15,398 --> 01:04:18,526
- I see myself eventually
growing out of graf
1412
01:04:18,609 --> 01:04:22,363
and getting married and living
the lifestyle, you know,
1413
01:04:22,447 --> 01:04:24,907
and making good
money, like that.
1414
01:04:24,991 --> 01:04:27,952
And when life is at its best,
you don't really want to
1415
01:04:28,036 --> 01:04:29,912
run around in the trains.
1416
01:04:29,996 --> 01:04:32,081
I'm sure I'll come back
every now and then,
1417
01:04:32,165 --> 01:04:33,791
just to let people know
I'm still around.
1418
01:04:33,875 --> 01:04:34,792
- Oh, no.
1419
01:04:34,876 --> 01:04:35,960
When I come back,
I take over.
1420
01:04:36,044 --> 01:04:36,961
And that's it.
1421
01:04:37,045 --> 01:04:38,004
After that.
1422
01:04:38,087 --> 01:04:39,130
- And after that--
1423
01:04:39,213 --> 01:04:40,840
- You want the prince of the 6s?
1424
01:04:40,923 --> 01:04:42,091
I'm king right here.
1425
01:04:42,175 --> 01:04:43,509
I'm the prince of the 6s.
1426
01:04:43,593 --> 01:04:45,136
He's later.
1427
01:04:45,219 --> 01:04:46,846
You know, he's one
of the has-beens--
1428
01:04:46,929 --> 01:04:49,182
- I'm what they call a
has-been, and he's a wannabe.
1429
01:04:49,265 --> 01:04:52,310
- A wannabe?
1430
01:04:52,393 --> 01:04:53,895
- So they consider you a king?
1431
01:04:53,978 --> 01:04:56,314
- Put it this way:
I am a king.
1432
01:04:56,397 --> 01:04:57,815
I could say--
1433
01:04:57,899 --> 01:04:58,900
- King of what?
1434
01:04:58,983 --> 01:05:00,985
- I want to tell you,
I am the king of bombing.
1435
01:05:01,069 --> 01:05:02,528
- You got to be able to take
over a line with insides,
1436
01:05:02,612 --> 01:05:05,364
take it over with throw-ups,
top-to-bottoms,
1437
01:05:05,448 --> 01:05:06,407
you got to do everything.
1438
01:05:06,491 --> 01:05:10,578
If you specialize in one thing,
you really can't call yourself
1439
01:05:10,661 --> 01:05:11,871
an all-out king.
1440
01:05:11,954 --> 01:05:12,914
- Who's king?
1441
01:05:12,997 --> 01:05:13,998
You're looking at him,
right here, my brotha.
1442
01:05:14,082 --> 01:05:15,083
The original.
1443
01:05:15,166 --> 01:05:16,042
Know what I'm saying?
1444
01:05:16,125 --> 01:05:17,585
Kingdom Islam; Nation god,
1445
01:05:17,668 --> 01:05:20,213
for I'm the one
that rocks so far.
1446
01:05:20,296 --> 01:05:23,091
Always rocking the jazziest
car, know what I'm saying?
1447
01:05:23,174 --> 01:05:25,384
The only and the
original Magnetic King,
1448
01:05:25,468 --> 01:05:30,431
and that's the one that's still
sitting here doing his thing.
1449
01:05:31,015 --> 01:05:32,391
- You know it.
1450
01:05:32,475 --> 01:05:33,559
We all live.
1451
01:05:33,643 --> 01:05:35,353
This is the original
old master killer of
1452
01:05:35,436 --> 01:05:36,854
the "Manila Thrilla,"
right here that
1453
01:05:36,938 --> 01:05:37,897
you're looking at.
1454
01:05:37,980 --> 01:05:39,857
The original king and love
to do his thing.
1455
01:05:39,941 --> 01:05:42,068
Don't shout, don't run,
don't hide, don't sky.
1456
01:05:42,151 --> 01:05:44,570
This is me coming to you
natural and live.
1457
01:05:44,654 --> 01:05:46,322
On CB...whatever.
1458
01:05:46,405 --> 01:05:47,365
- Ha, Ha!
1459
01:05:47,448 --> 01:05:49,408
- CB without the mic.
1460
01:05:52,954 --> 01:05:55,915
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