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What is madness?
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Madness is a shift from the norm
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and from reality.
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Madness can have multiple meanings, it is infinite.
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As is the norm.
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We have a view of madness today,
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but what was the view of madness
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in the 17th century, the 18th century,
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in the Middle Ages?
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Hieronymus Bosch depicts fantastical worlds,
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linked to madness and chaos.
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He shows the complete lack of reason
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of the world,
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populated by chimeras and monsters.
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In 1494, Sebastian Brant
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published The Ship of Fools.
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listing the vices
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of Brant's contemporaries,
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allegorically embarked on a drunken boat.
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The ultimate allegory of madness is the jester.
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He becomes the iconographic theme of
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the lack of reason of the world,
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of which he is a grotesque mirror.
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There is the greatest contempt for madness as an allegory,
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because the madman is by definition an immoral being.
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The stone of madness, or stone of the head,
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dates from the 16th, 17th century.
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It comes from the Flemish school of painting.
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The realism of certain scenes suggests that
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those operations may have taken place at fairs
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where people also went to get a tooth pulled out.
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Everything has been tried to cure madness,
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and nothing has succeeded,
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but it is precisely because nothing succeeded
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that they constantly tried other treatments.
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Which lead a madman of the 19th century to say:
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"the more skilled they are, the more they scare me".
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The melancholy figure is that angel,
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its face is leaning on its fist,
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surrounded by disturbing
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cabalistic and hermetic signs.
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There is also a disembowelled bat in the sky
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on which reads "Melancholia".
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Here are two much darker visions from Goya.
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One is a painting from 1794 that represents
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the Yard with Lunatics in Zaragoza,
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a violent scene with two naked men fighting.
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The other one is The Madhouse
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with similar scenes of naked, agitated men.
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They are left alone to themselves and their animality.
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In the Sainte-Anne asylum collection,
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the oldest works are
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representations of madness
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made by artists
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who were hospitalized at that time.
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The most famous one is
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the Monomania of Envy by Géricault.
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It was during Géricault's internment
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that his psychiatrist asked him
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to paint portraits of people around him.
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This is the beginning of activities offered to patients.
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Pinel and his assistant understood that
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when the patient was offered things to do
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or things to create,
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it was a huge step in giving them more freedom.
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This is also the beginning of a secret artistic production,
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as art therapy did not really exist then.
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This is the start of a lot of artworks
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that are now considered Art Brut.
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William Bouguereau, Oreste pursued by the Furies.
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Orestes killed the two murderers of his father for revenge.
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He is now pursued by the three Frinyes,
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the furies of the Romans.
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He is driven mad by their persistent screams.
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Orestes tries to escape
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while his mother collapses behind him,
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a dagger in her heart.
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This is The Mad Woman by Otto Dix.
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Otto Dix also painted Nocturnal Encounter with a Lunatic,
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and The Madwoman of St. Marie-à-Py in his series on war.
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No illness has been more
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represented in art than madness,
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it inspired artists to paint madness,
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but also inspired madmen to paint.
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It is a condition that still can't be cured today.
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We can channel it, try to suppress it,
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but we can't cure it.
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Instead of attracting compassion,
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madness sometimes attracts derision and scorn.
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We reject it because it scares us,
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as it can threaten any of us, at any time.
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So I understand why this strange condition,
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which is not foreign to us,
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inspired painters and artists so often.
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Some of these artists were visionaries.
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But does this mean they were mad?
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Some artists suffered from visions,
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and their art was a reflection
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of their unconscious,
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They painted in a completely different way,
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far from the rational view of the world,
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creating hallucinatory works.
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Goya became ill from 1793
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and he suddenly went deaf.
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He was completely locked up in his inner world
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because of his deafness,
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and this completely changed his iconography
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as he turned towards the dark side of himself.
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The Sleep of Reason Produces Monsters,
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we see Goya himself
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half asleep on his work table,
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with nocturnal creatures above him
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invading his space.
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They're an entry to the nocturnal world,
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the nightmare and the unconscious.
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The animals represented are all nyctalopes,
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they have nocturnal vision,
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they see what others do not see,
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and this visionary side
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is what Goya wants to show,
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the artist is able to see beyond reality
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and see what everyone else can't see.
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The Sabbaths, the witches,
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but also madness and the madman,
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Goya explores the world of the extraordinary,
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showing a humanity that is always at the margin.
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The Romantics turn to themselves,
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give more importance to passion than to reason
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and give free rein to their imagination,
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and this also lead to the unconscious.
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We are far from knowing what happens
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in the brain during the creative process,
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but one theory is that there is
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an unconscious maturation that occurs
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during artistic activities or mathematics.
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We see it on brain imaging,
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a person can have a lot of brain activation,
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without consciousness.
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There is an extraordinarily complex system
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of unconscious activity
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constantly happening in the brain,
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which is partly responsible for ideas
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that arise suddenly in consciousness
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and take the form of artistic or scientific creation.
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Towards the end of the 19th century, psychiatrists
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started to take an interest in art made by their patients.
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They called it the art of the insane.
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They were open-minded doctors that
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saved these productions from being destroyed.
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Many simply threw them away
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or saw them as symptoms of degeneration.
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There is also the Scottish collection of
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the Crichton Psychiatric Hospital, from 1870.
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The Crichton Asylum is a two-tier asylum,
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like the English society of the time,
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where poor patients are kept busy
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with work, gardening and workshops,
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but rich patients couldn't be made to work
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so were kept busy with various activities,
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including of course art workshops.
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It's at the beginning of the 20th century
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that doctors really became passionate
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about the art of their patients.
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Marcel Réja published Art in Mad Men in 1907,
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and Dr. Marie, from the same department,
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also set up a museum in Villejuif.
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This gallery opened in Paris this week,
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resembling all other galleries
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But all their artworks were painted by lunatics,
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and some resemble the greatest masters.
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This is also the beginning of modern art,
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and people discover prehistoric art and African art.
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1907 is also the year Picasso paints Les Demoiselles
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He made a clean sweep of everything,
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he reinvented arithmetic, geography, metric systems.
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This epic story is supported by a very complex system.
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It all makes sense, albeit in a very delirious mode.
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The Prinzhorn Collection was then used
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by the Nazis in their degenerate art exhibitions,
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where the works of patients were shown
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next to art by avant-garde artists
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to demonstrate that these artists were madmen
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and that their works could be destroyed.
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Surrealism was born in the late 191 Os,
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with a certain number of artists, poets, painters,
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that gathered around André Breton,
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who published the Manifesto of Surrealism in 1924.
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Everything was possible,
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the Surrealists gathered
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and undertook rituals in Paris...
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People were meeting each other
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thanks to fortuitous chance.
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André Breton was, as Marcel Duchamp said,
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"the lover of love in a world where prostitution reigns".
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His ecstasy, his youth and
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his vitality of thought inspired the others.
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The definition is quite simple:
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Surrealism will be a pure psychic automatism
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by which one proposes to express,
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the actual functioning of thought.
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Surrealism will try to highlight
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the unconscious mind in their art,
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previously discovered by psychoanalysts
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and especially by Freud.
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Freud's discoveries about dreams showed
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that there was an unconscious part of our minds,
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that allowed us to visualize
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the psychic reality of dreams.
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"The ego is not even master in its own house."
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Without necessarily being psychotic or crazy,
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we all have this unconscious behavior
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in everyday life and in dreams.
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The unconscious produces images,
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and the Surrealists tried by different techniques
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to reproduce these images
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that originated from their psyche.
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Dali read Freud's writings on paranoia.
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From a psychoanalytic point of view,
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paranoia is a frenzy of interpretation,
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it is not a hallucinatory phenomenon
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where we imagine things.
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The paranoid individual
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creates an interpretation of reality
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with elements drawn from reality,
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guided by an obsessing idea.
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Dali recognized himself in this process
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and he self-diagnosed as paranoid.
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Dali produced many paintings
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in which hidden images
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questioned the functioning of the mind.
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This "Paranoiac-Critical" method let him
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translate the visions and hallucinations
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that he experienced
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He wanted to express his fantasies
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through painting.
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Dali goes back and forth between
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the rational world and the irrational world,
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between the conscious and the unconscious,
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without falling into madness.
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He knows that some people did not manage to
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and have gone crazy,
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passing a point of no return.
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Thanks to Stefan Zweig,
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Dali meets Freud in London
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in July 1938.
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I brought Freud a painting, The Metamorphosis of
Narcissus,
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and he liked it a lot.
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I also brought him the text I wrote
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about paranoid-critical activity.
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And Freud didn't want to look at it,
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so I punched the table and said,
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you have to read it or the painting is worthless!
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Dali sought Freud's approval regarding
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the psychoanalytical depth of his painting.
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Unfortunately Freud refused to play this game.
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Freud told me that
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Surrealism didn't interest him much
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because the hidden meaning
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was already obvious in the paintings.
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Freud admits that after meeting
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this "fanatic Spaniard",
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his point of view on Surrealism changed,
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Freud no longer took them for lunatics
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but thought there may be something interesting about them.
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André Breton worked as a psychiatric nurse from 1916,
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and he is sent to Saint Dizier
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in a neuropsychiatric center.
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He meets soldiers coming back from the front,
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transformed by the experience of war.
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Breton discovers madness through their words
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and think their psychic dysfunction create
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an extremely interesting form of poetry.
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André Breton was especially interested in poetry.
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One of the thing that played a big role
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in the history of Surrealism
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was his approach of psychiatry
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and mad people.
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He focused on what we can call alienation,
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which is often close to both genius and poetry.
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Their creative process meant that
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madness was not just something destructive
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but sometimes enabled the creation
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of totally unconscious and superb work.
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Breton and Philippe Soupault decided
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to quickly write everything
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that passed through their heads.
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Those sentences and words formed
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a poetry of spontaneity and chance.
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A consciousness that lets itself go,
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far from any acquired morality,
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far from all culture,
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the conscious self must express itself,
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the real becomes the surreal.
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Breton takes a great interest in the experiments
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that Charcot conducted at the Salpétriére hospital,
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experiments on hypnosis and hysteria.
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Charcot's work showed that madness and hysteria
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weren't just hereditary conditions
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but were pathways of dysfunction of the psyche
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that could be understood differently.
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Many Surrealist experienced
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periods of internment in asylums:
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Leonora Carrington,
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Hans Bellmer's wife, Unica Zürn,
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and Antonin Artaud,
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one of the great figures of Surrealism.
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These artists had the experience
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of both being in the norm
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and at the same time
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of being interned
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in asylums.
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They tried to transcribe this experience
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into their art.
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Breton used to say:
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"Be careful not to go too far when painting,
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when searching for the unconscious, for automatism"
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as there was sometimes a point of no return.
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These experiences could be dangerous psychologically.
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Leonora Carrington was completely
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inhabited by her art,
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Her work draws on esotericism,
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magic and occultism.
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It's a door to the wonderful world
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of Carrington's universe.
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There was a similar context for Unica Zürn,
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she met Hans Bellmer,
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moved to Paris,
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and got involved in Surrealism.
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Her works reflected an unease and her madness
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and she was interned in psychiatric hospitals.
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In a book called Dark Spring,
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Unica Zürn
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experiences with a writing
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that goes through more or less normal phases
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but also into a descent into schizophrenic crises.
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We can see in her writing this crossing of borders
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between madness and non-madness.
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She talks about her illness
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with clarity and a lot of humor,
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she also describes her hallucinations.
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Both her book and visual productions
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are beautiful.
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Antonin Artaud said:
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"I am already dead, but I accept madness as life."
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Madness was his life.
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He wanted to challenge the official culture,
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specific to our Western way of thinking,
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where culture is placed in a dominant position,
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This culture is inhibiting, especially for art.
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It cuts you off from your creative roots.
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Augustin Lesage was at the bottom of a coal mine in 1912
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when he heard a voice telling him
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that he must become a painter.
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He told one of his friends
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and they joined a spirit circle.
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During a seance, Lesage's hand takes a pencil,
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and starts drawing without control.
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Mediumnic artists fascinate me,
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these great delirious artists inhabited by God.
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Their hand move freely,
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inspired by spirits and the dead.
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This is not far from big psychotic delusions.
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George Widener has the same syndrome as Rain Man:
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the extraordinary memory capacity.
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You give him a page and in a split second
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he memorizes it all.
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George Widener tries to predict the future,
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having invented
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a whole system of grids of numbers
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to anticipate what will happen.
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In his artwork called Sunday Crash,
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he wrote down all the plane crashes
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that will happen on Sundays during the next 100 years.
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Henry Darger's great work is
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this 15,000-page novel,
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The Realms of the Unreal,
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which is a great saga with a war between two clans.
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The story is centered around the Vivian Girls,
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seven little princesses who fight
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against the bad adults,
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the Glandelinians.
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All the clichés about the purity of the artist
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are actually true for Darger,
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he is the ultimate self-taught outsider
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and his work was discovered after his death.
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People who are considered marginals or abnormals
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are suddenly the best example of individual freedom.
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Art brut can even remain secret.
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This is the freest act of creation.
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The artists do not create to be recognized,
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they do not create to sell or to eat,
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the artists only create to exist.
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It's an extraordinary lesson on a human level.
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These artists invent a new system,
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the ability to invent
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new forms and languages.
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It appeals to us because
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I think that this system
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uses ancient mental structures
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that we all have when we are babies.
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The mind of these artists function
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in a complete different way than ours.
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Normal people compartmentalize everything:
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history, geography, God, science, etc.
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Psychotics don't.
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We performed experiments on schizophrenic patients.
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Their unconscious treatment of information was fine,
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even slightly increased,
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but their awareness of conscious information
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was abnormal.
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It means that reality always appears abnormal,
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at all levels of the brain.
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The consequence is that
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patients start confabulating,
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thinking there are hidden levels of reality,
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that they are being spied on,
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that people know too much about them,
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a certain sense of paranoia.
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We can speculate
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on what it does to their mind:
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a liberation of some unconscious behaviors,
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that are repetitive and automatic.
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You very rarely find representations
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of the suffering mad man in art brut.
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In the history of art,
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this extreme pain has been shown many times.
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When Goya paints madness,
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he shows the anguished madman,
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the hallucinated madman,
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but they never showed
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the psychic, creative richness
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of this ability to create.
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Only mad people can.
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Art and madness have always coexisted.
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It is obvious that there is often
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a form of creativity in psychiatric conditions.
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Alienation can lead to creativity,
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which reminds me of Edgar Poe's famous statement:
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"Men have called me crazy,
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but science has not yet decided
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whether madness is, or not,
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the greatest intelligence.
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Madness is not fun or enjoyable,
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so we must also demystify it.
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It fascinates me, because it allows me
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to understand areas of the brain
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that are extraordinary
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but that does not mean
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that it is wonderful to be mad.
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One can have a rejoicing view of madness
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through Art Brut,
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but the artists suffer from their difficulty
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to fit with the reality of the world.
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But they also have an experience
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and understanding of the world
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totally different from ours,
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and at times, what comes out of these experiences
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is magical, a great work of art.
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