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MALE INTERVIEWER:
Who was Alexander Perepilichnyy?
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Yeah, so Perepilichnyy is...
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OK, so Perepilichnyy is a story
that has basically, like,
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consumed a large part of our lives
for the last few years.
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(OMINOUS MUSIC PLAYING)
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The US intelligence community
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was drawing up a report
about Russian assassinations
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and assessing the likelihood of
Kremlin involvement in their deaths.
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The Perepilichnyy case
had a high rating
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for having been ordered
by the Kremlin.
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(OMINOUS MUSIC INTENSIFIES)
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With Perepilichnyy's case,
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we were worried there would
be a miscarriage of justice
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if this information wasn't known.
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TOM: It just flipped a switch.
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It's not us, this group
of journalists looking at it,
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it's the US intelligence community.
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And that was a moment where I
just thought, like, shit, like...
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We actually really
are on to something.
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(OMINOUS MUSIC INTENSIFIES)
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(RADIO STATIC)
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REPORTER: A murder investigation
is being launched into the death
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of another Russian on British soil.
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(LOUD CLOCK GONGS)
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(THEME MUSIC STARTS)
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REPORTER: He told his uncle
a fortnight before he died,
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"If anything happens to me in
the next two weeks, it won't be
an accident."
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(RUSSIAN SINGER RAPPING)
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REPORTER: London is levitating
on a sea of dirty money.
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RUSSIAN MAN:
If you deal with somebody
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who has a very suspicious
track record,
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some day it will come back
to haunt you.
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(POLICE SIREN WAILING)
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(BIRDS CHIRPING)
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The rate of deaths in Surrey,
suspicious or otherwise, isn't high.
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It's not a huge population.
It's not a huge landmass.
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(POLICE SIREN WAILING)
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There's obviously clear murders.
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People who may be found
by the side of the road
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who could well have been
hit by a car.
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There's people who, on first sight,
appear to have taken their own life,
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and then there's an untimely death
where there's no obvious cause.
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(CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKING)
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The news of Mr Perepilichnyy's
death came into Special Branch,
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because of the fact that he was a
Russian who had moved into the area.
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The fact of the matter remains that
what detectives needed to deal with
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was how he came to be found dead.
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(OMINOUS MUSIC INTENSIFIES)
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(OFFICE CHATTER)
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With the Perepilichnyy case,
that one was the one
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we were racing against time
to get out.
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And that was because the inquest
was about to start.
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The initial interest in the death
of Alexander Perepilichnyy really
blew up.
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People asking questions about
whether Perepilichnyy had been
poisoned.
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I wanted to investigate what
Perepilichnyy had been doing
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just before his death.
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So, that's when I turned to the
chief antagonist of Vladimir Putin.
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If you were to ask my friends
to describe Bill Browder - me -
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in one sentence,
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the answer would be that
I'm Putin's number one enemy.
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I was running the largest
investment fund in Russia.
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I was expelled from Russia and
declared a threat to national
security.
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They deported me from Russia
to the UK.
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When the Russians turn on you,
they don't tend to do so mildly.
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They tend to do so
with extreme prejudice.
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Putin I believe to be the
richest man in the world.
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And the purpose of Putin's regime
has been to commit terrible crimes
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in order to get that money.
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Putin needs to keep everybody
absolutely terrified of him.
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He doesn't have to kill everybody.
He just has to kill a few people
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and make it so clear that terrible
things will come to you if you cross Putin.
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In the summer of 2010,
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I was putting together
YouTube videos
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about corrupt police officers.
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We focused on exposing crimes
committed by the police officers
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and the tax officers,
and how much money they got.
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Everybody thought we were the
greatest thing since sliced bread,
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"Wow, you're going after
the bad guys."
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One day, my colleague
Jamison Firestone
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got an unsolicited email
from Alexander Perepilichnyy...
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..who claimed he had information -
bank statements of a tax official
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who was in the business of
authorizing illegal tax refunds.
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The tax official authorized the
largest illegal tax refund in the
history of Russia.
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The information was as good
as anything we'd ever gotten
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and as consequential
as anything we'd ever gotten.
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A true smoking gun.
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But the Russians, they're playing
3D chess over there.
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We didn't know
whether this was a setup,
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whether this guy was for real.
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We didn't know if this was
a way of them trying to hurt us.
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(TENSE MUSIC PLAYING)
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Bill said, "What do you wanna do?"
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I said, "I wanna meet him."
He said, "Could be dangerous."
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I said, "We need to meet him.
I really want to."
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We've been threatened
a million times already.
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Hopefully, this won't end
in violence of some kind.
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When Jamie went to that meeting,
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we had a whole bunch
of plain-clothed bodyguards
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scattered around the place.
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We have very, very serious
concerns for our safety.
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This is after Litvinenko
was poisoned.
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(CHUCKLING) I'm not drinking
any water or eating anything.
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They're like, if you scratch
your head, if you do like this,
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all hell breaks loose and my team
will get you the hell outta there.
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(TENSE, MYSTERIOUS MUSIC)
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This guy walks in, he introduces
himself as Alexander.
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Alexander Perepilichnyy
was a money manager.
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He was a money launderer.
He was a financier in Russia.
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He was part of the fraud
that he ended up exposing.
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BILL: He had fallen out with the
people he had managed the money for,
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and they threatened him with
various criminal cases in Russia
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if he didn't return the money.
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And so he fled to the UK.
He got in touch with us.
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His logic was
that if he exposed his enemies,
that would get him off the hook.
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And so he gave us the information
on the illegal tax refund.
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And I said, "You've given me
this stuff. What do you want?"
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He said,
"I want you to make a movie
and expose the tax inspectors."
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The refund was made
to three companies
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that police officers
working with organized criminals
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stole from my client,
the Hermitage Fund.
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BILL: This video, it went viral
in Russia and outside of Russia.
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Alexander Perepilichnyy
blew the whistle
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on a massive Russian
government-linked fraud.
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And he handed over evidence
of Kremlin complicity
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in a huge money laundering scandal.
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We knew the Russians
were threatening him
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with all sorts of
criminal investigations
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and asking for, like, a million
dollars or something to close it,
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but we were shocked when he died.
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(HEAVY BREATHING)
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Perepilichnyy had threats
levelled against him.
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He was afraid for his life.
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His name was found
on a Russian hit list.
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(HEARTBEATS)
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(BREATHING QUICKENS)
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(SIRENS WAILING)
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NEWS READER 1: Russian businessman
Alex Perepilichnyy was found dead.
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NEWS READER 2:
Sources have told the BBC
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he'd had a medical check-up
months before,
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no problems had been found.
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NEW READER 3: He was just 44.
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JANE: The police, when
they found his body that day,
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almost immediately decided
it was a non-suspicious death.
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REPORTER 1:
Police couldn't have been more
clear. There was no foul play.
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He died of natural causes.
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BILL: When they arrived, police did
not treat his death as suspicious.
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I believe it was a full,
open, diligent investigation
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and everyone on that investigation
would have been determined
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to the best of their ability
to come up with answers.
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HEIDI: We have Gold Committee minutes
which show senior officers
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telling the investigating officers at
the time to make this a non-issue,
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telling them that there is ambient
interest in this case at a government level,
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telling them to keep their statements
to the media bland.
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There was pressure on the
officers involved in that case
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not to inflame speculation
about Perepilichnyy's death.
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The fact of the matter was
that at that moment in time,
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there wasn't anything to suggest
that the death was suspicious.
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So it was, kind of,
managing expectations
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around some sort of
media frenzy happening.
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The police lost key evidence
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that limited the scope of the
investigation and what could
be done.
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Police evidence disks containing
critical digital information
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from Perepilichnyy's computer
went missing.
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Not only the original
evidence disk went missing,
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but the backup copy
also went missing.
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They quickly said we don't
see anything suspicious here.
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There was nothing wrong.
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HEIDI:
There was all sorts of evidence
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that Perepilichnyy was a man
with a target on his back.
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The man went and took eight million
pounds worth of life insurance out.
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You don't do that.
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You don't do that if you don't
think somebody might whack you.
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His insurance company didn't
want to pay out the policy.
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They requested clinical
investigation
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into the contents of his stomach.
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The police sent this to a
special forensics laboratory
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at a place called Kew Gardens.
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(CLASSICAL STRING MUSIC PLAYING)
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NEWS REPORTER 4:
Plant toxicology experts from
the Royal Botanic Gardens in Kew
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were asked to help determine
the cause of death.
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WOMAN: Kew Gardens started
as a garden in the mid 1750s.
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It became a real centre
for what we term plant taxonomy,
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which is basically the study
of plant names,
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how to name them,
studying their distribution.
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We've actually got more scientists
here than horticultural staff,
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so it's really a research institute
with a garden attached.
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We were contacted and
asked if we could help.
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We had no preconceived ideas.
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All we were really looking for -
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could he have been given
something that was a toxin?
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When the specimens come in,
we accession the samples.
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We could see something
that might have had the ion
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of an alkaloid from Gelsemium.
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Gelsemium is a herb that
occurs mainly in parts of Asia.
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HEIDI: Monique Simmonds examined
the contents of his stomach
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and gathered that his stomach might
have contained traces of Gelsemium
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which is a deadly plant poison,
known to be used by assassins.
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It attacks the respiratory system
and it is quite fast acting.
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HEIDI:
Its nickname is 'heartbreak grass,'
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because it's known
to trigger cardiac arrest
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which is exactly what
Alexander Perepilichnyy died of.
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That discovery suddenly drew a huge
amount of attention to the case.
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NEWS REPORTER 5:
Traces of an extremely
toxic plant in his stomach
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appear to have been found.
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NEWS REPORTER 6:
There are many calling foul play
and looking for answers.
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JANE: The days leading up
to Perepilichnyy's death
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were largely shrouded in mystery
for a long time.
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A senior French
law enforcement source
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found some transactions
on his credit card
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which showed him booking rooms in
two hotels for the same night in
central Paris.
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But nobody knew what
he was doing there.
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I travelled out there to talk
to sources in the French police
about that case
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and was able to obtain a copy
of the French police file into
Perepilichnyy's death.
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I discovered in the file that
detectives had identified Elmira
Medynska
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as the woman Perepilichnyy
had been visiting in Paris.
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(JAZZ DRUMS PLAYING)
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And so we had a name,
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and we had a date of birth
for Elmira Medynska,
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we knew she was a Ukrainian national.
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We didn't know where she was.
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That's when I turn to Jane Bradley.
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She is our resident super sleuth
when it comes to tracking people
down.
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I started digging into her, and
I did all my usual searches -
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social media, public records,
everything I could think of,
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and could find no trace of
a woman called Elmira Medynska.
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And then I had a breakthrough.
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I found a company called
Elmira Medins in Spain.
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And I thought,
"She's using a different name,
she's not using her full name."
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That then led me to her
Facebook, her Instagram...
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She'd changed her biography
on Instagram
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and added a residential address
in Paris to her biography.
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So I determined,
without much thought,
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that I would go to this address.
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I set off, I let the team
know that I was going in,
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and we kind of set up check-ins
every ten minutes.
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I arrived at this huge, great
big Parisian apartment block
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with an enormous great
big hardwood door.
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There was a big spiral staircase
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that went up about eight stories
and I was trudging up,
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steps kind of echoing out
in this big stone atrium
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and got to the top,
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and there was Elmira Medynska
waiting for me.
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She was the tallest woman
I have ever seen in my life.
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She must have been six foot five
or six foot six.
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I said to her,
"Were you expecting me?"
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And she said, "Yes, I was."
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And she ushered me
into her apartment.
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And inside were three men,
all wearing suits,
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and speaking with,
in heavily accented English.
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I said I was a journalist and I
was there to ask her about a man
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she'd spent a couple of nights with
in Paris about five years before,
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a man called
Alexander Perepilichnyy.
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And she immediately said,
"Of course I know this man."
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They had spent these two nights
together in Paris.
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He'd been very agitated
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and clearly frightened
during their trip together.
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JANE: He seemed really stressed
and kept leaving the dinner table.
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BILL: The day before
he came back to London,
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he was sick after having sushi.
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HEIDI:
And had spent hours throwing up.
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(OMINOUS MUSIC PLAYING)
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(MUSIC FADES OUT ABRUPTLY)
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Perepilichnyy's inquest
at the time was ongoing,
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and the police simply hadn't
spoken to Elmira Medynska
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about how he'd spent
his last two nights.
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Perepilichnyy's inquest was heard
at the Old Bailey in the heart of
London.
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And the Old Bailey, for anyone
who hasn't stepped inside,
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is exactly how you would imagine
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an old Victorian, prestigious,
historic court to be like.
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(COURT CHATTER)
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I personally sat through
18 months of that inquest.
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I want this verdict
to be an informed verdict.
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It was, kind of,
a race against time
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to get Perepilichnyy's story ready.
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We wanted to publish it so
the judge and all the parties
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would have time to properly
look into the evidence.
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We couldn't sit on information
that was germane to that inquest,
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so we just had to publish the story.
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(DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING)
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We went first with
the Perepilichnyy story.
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We'd established through Jason's
incredible intelligence sourcing
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that there was a document
that had been sent to Congress.
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US Intelligence officials
had gathered intel.
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With Perepilichnyy's death there
was a high level of confidence
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that he was in fact assassinated
on orders of Vladimir Putin.
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HEIDI:
We now had brand new information
about the two days before he died.
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Our hope with publishing when we did
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was that the judge
would see this information,
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see, ah, there is a physical
documentary piece of evidence here
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that contains potentially
important information
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about Perepilichnyy's death.
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NEWS REPORTER 7: BuzzFeed have
published a series of explosive
stories
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investigating a number of deaths
with links to Russia.
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It was a huge relief to
finally publish the story.
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We'd been working on it
for over two years of our lives.
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I kind of felt like
I had a big flag on my head
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for being the troublesome
BuzzFeed reporter
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who was upending the inquest
and causing all sorts of problems.
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You know when you walk into a room
and you feel half of the room's eyes
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glaring at you, hating you
for disrupting their inquest,
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for the meddling press kind of
publishing something that just
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blew up the inquest.
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And the judge and some of the
parties there for the government
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just were giving daggers at me.
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People were already confused
why BuzzFeed was in a courtroom.
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They thought we just
did cat gifs and lists.
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(GAVEL BANGING)
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Heidi's interview with
Elmira had a huge impact.
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The judge scrabbled around
to go through our reporting
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and figure out what new lines
of inquiry were worth pursuing.
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He decided there were two lines
and that was to interview Elmira
Medynska
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and also to get
the US intelligence report.
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HEIDI: Clearly highly
pertinent evidence.
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That pretty quickly
blew up the inquest.
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And they had to suspend it while
the coroner sought new evidence
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off the back of our findings.
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NEWS REPORTER 8:
Alex Perepilichnyy's inquest
will resume next month.
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The inquest was upended
to try and get answers.
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The judge did want to hear this
evidence, and it was important.
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NEWS REPORTER 9:
Elmira Medynska was never
interviewed by Surrey Police.
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The details of what happened in
Paris only came out much later
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when she spoke to BuzzFeed and
then the inquest into his death.
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One of the key theories
being investigated
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was whether or not he was poisoned.
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Here we have this witness who the
police didn't bother to interview,
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who is now telling a court that he
spent one of his last nights alive
throwing up.
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This evidence wouldn't
have been heard
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if we hadn't tracked down Elmira
in Paris and told her story.
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It's difficult to make
these cases stick in court.
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(OMINOUS MUSIC PLAYING)
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At the inquest, Monique Simmonds
said it wasn't possible
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to say that the substance
she'd detected was Gelsemium.
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We were asked specifically
to confirm whether this ion
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was or was not from the Gelsemium.
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So when we went back
to check on this,
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we could not find an ion
that was similar.
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We had no evidence that it contained
the alkaloids from Gelsemium.
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She said, along with
the other toxicologist,
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there were other tests they
would've liked to carry out
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to definitively find out
what it was, but they couldn't
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because the pathologist threw away
the majority of his stomach contents
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and that really limited
the amount of toxicology tests
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that could be carried out.
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It's one of the many features
of investigating this pattern
of suspicious deaths
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that makes it quite difficult
to get to the truth.
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Do you have faith in this inquest
as it is to get to the truth?
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There is so much information
that's still not been ventilated,
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so many requests that we've made
for further investigation actions
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which have not been approved.
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I felt very conscious
as we went about our work
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of the threats that journalists
around the world,
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and particularly in Russia,
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face on a daily basis,
as they go after the truth.
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WOMAN: A couple of us
were living away from home
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in these secure locations
we'd been put in.
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Weird things started
happening to a few of us -
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cars outside our house,
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things being moved around
in one of our apartments.
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Then you start to think,
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"Has this person been behind me for
a long time? Are they following me?"
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This was a really chilling
investigation
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to work on a story
where you feel threatened.
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The kind of level of understanding
that's given me,
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I think, doesn't go away.
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(OMINOUS MUSIC)
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(MUSIC FADES OUT ABRUPTLY)
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(TOURIST CHATTER)
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This has been a detailed
and exhaustive process
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in which the coroner has examined
all of the available evidence,
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and has returned a verdict
of natural causes.
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This supports the conclusion
reached by Surrey Police in 2013
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following a full investigation,
which included two post mortems
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and a very extensive range
of toxicology tests.
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The thing that baffled me
about the inquest verdict
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was how you can say someone died,
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likely died of natural causes,
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without finding
any natural cause of death.
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Today, Putin will be
celebrating this result.
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I mean,
just every step of the way,
this was just keystone cops.
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There is huge circumstantial
evidence
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that Putin sent his assassins here.
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If the police had investigated
properly, there would've been a
different result.
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I'm satisfied that the investigation
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was conducted to the best
of its ability
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based on what was known at the time
and the evidence available.
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There weren't any
external factors involved,
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and that's the conclusion
that the Coroner came to as well.
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That it was probably natural causes.
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If people want to say the
Perepilichnyy case was innocent
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and it was a heart attack, fine.
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Why was some of the evidence
heard behind closed doors?
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You don't do that in an
average heart attack case.
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If I went out and ate some
bad sushi and keeled over,
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there's no way on Earth that in my
inquest there'd be 'closed evidence'
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that was withheld for
'national security reasons.'
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(DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING)
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HEIDI: The British authorities
had to be held to account
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for their failure to act on the
evidence that we'd already uncovered
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that Russia may have been conducting
an escalating campaign
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of targeted assassination
on British soil.
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(DRAMATIC MUSIC INTENSIFIES)
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(MUSIC STOPS, BIRDS CHIRPING)
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Everything what they're writing
is wrong.
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It's false information,
it's disinformation.
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It's deception.
It's not true what they're writing.
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If somebody wants
to give an interview,
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like I'm doing right now,
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it does not mean
that he automatically
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becomes a potential victim for
the Russian intelligence services.
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No, this is not true.
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And if I am walking out
of this room now
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and something happens to me
like an automobile accident
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or I'm getting poisoned
with bad fish,
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something because I love sushi, OK?
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That does not mean that the Russian
intelligence is involved.
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But of course, BuzzFeed can make
an investigation and say, look,
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he's a former special
operations officer.
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He's living in this country.
He's giving interviews.
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And this is very natural and obvious
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that the Russians were on him
for a long time
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because he's publishing books,
articles and doing private
investigations
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for private British companies.
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And that it's natural
that he was dealt with
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by Secret Service,
which is not true.
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(OMINOUS MUSIC PLAYING)
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The funny thing is, right,
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people were, like,
disbelieving of what we'd done.
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And then all of a sudden,
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this bulletin goes
through newsrooms,
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there's been some kind
of event in Salisbury.
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(OMINOUS MUSIC)
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And literally...
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..it changed.
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