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You gonna get that?
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They're selling magazines.
Whole block's getting calls.
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Did you get my suit?
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They said it's ready. I'll
pick it up on the way home.
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Thanks.
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That guy, Stan, called again. I
told him you were with a patient.
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You got to admire
his persistence.
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Yeah, I don't know,
hon. It's tight.
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Does it look tight to you?
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You're not looking.
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They said they let it out
as much as they could.
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Those fucking magazines.
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You screwing someone
behind my back, Candy?
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Hello?
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Hello?
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Listen,
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I don't want you answering this
phone until after the trial is over.
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You got me?
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Okay.
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Sullivan, let's go.
I don't have all day.
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I told her to get you a clip-on.
You wanna get those first?
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Your Honor, can I just have
a moment with my client?
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Come here.
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It's fine.
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It's not.
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Okay. Look.
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Relax, because there's not a person in
this courtroom whose opinion counts.
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Not yet, anyway.
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Let's flip it.
Easier in the mirror.
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There.
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Now you look like an
upstanding citizen.
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- We're all set, Your Honor.
- Bring in the jury.
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All rise.
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Good morning. My name
is Patricia Richards.
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I'm a Manhattan assistant
district attorney
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representing the
State of New York.
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And as Judge Posner
already told you,
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the burden of proof in
this courtroom is on me.
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I welcome it.
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I welcome it because the proof
in this case is indisputable.
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Undeniable.
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There is video.
There are witnesses.
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The only thing there
isn't, is doubt.
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On May 18th of this year, the
defendant, Daniel Sullivan,
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aimed a .38-caliber pistol into
a crowd and fired six times.
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Three people were wounded.
The rest were lucky.
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Make no mistake, the only
reason this isn't a murder trial
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is because Daniel
Sullivan is a lousy shot.
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He belongs behind bars.
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But with evidence so
provable, so irrefutable,
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one wonders, what
will the defense do?
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They cannot deny the facts,
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so they will divert you from them by
making unfounded and unproven claims
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about a condition they call
multiple personality disorder.
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Let me be clear,
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there is no such thing as
multiple personality disorder.
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It is a made-up condition from
a Sally Field movie, no less.
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They might as well claim the
defendant is a flying nun.
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The defense blames Mr. Sullivan's
actions on what they call an alter.
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Now, I can admit,
I get the appeal.
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Don't we all wish we could blame
our mistakes on someone else?
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Run a red light? Blame an alter.
Bounce a check? Blame an alter.
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Cheat on a spouse?
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Well, let's see
how that one flies.
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But can you imagine
our judicial system
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if every time someone
committed a crime,
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they could simply
say, "It wasn't me."
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That's what's at stake here.
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These arguments from the defense,
they're more than desperate.
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They're dangerous.
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Because they undermine a bedrock principle
of both our legal system and our society:
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personal responsibility.
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We are responsible
for our actions.
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The defendant is guilty, and
that guilt demands punishment.
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Otherwise, there
can be no justice.
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Thank you.
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Mr. Camisa, for the defense.
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Indisputable.
Undeniable. Irrefutable.
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You know, makes a guy
wonder, "Why am I even here?"
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That was some opening
from the prosecution.
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Bedrock principles.
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Well, here's a bedrock
principle for you.
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He's innocent.
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He has the presumption of
innocence. It is his right.
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Now, this bears repeating because
of everything that you just heard.
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So, let me begin by saying it clearly
and as a simple statement of fact.
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Danny Sullivan
didn't shoot anyone.
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He was there. He admits as much.
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But he didn't pull the trigger.
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Danny's a good kid,
but he's a sick kid.
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Ladies and gentlemen of the jury,
no one is making up a condition.
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Now, I get how it sounds.
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Multiple personality disorder.
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You know, at first, I had a hard time
wrapping my head around it myself.
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But instead of making flying
nun jokes, which is easy,
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I kept an open
mind, which is hard.
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And that's what
I'm asking of you.
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To keep an open mind.
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Listen to the experts.
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Listen to the witnesses,
because if you do,
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you'll arrive at the
same indisputable,
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undeniable, irrefutable
conclusion that I did,
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which is that Danny had no control
over his illness or his alters.
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Yeah, he's got alters.
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He's got alters because he was hurt
in unimaginable ways that broke him.
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It broke his mind into pieces.
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And no, they are not some
get-out-of-jail-free card.
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They are real, and
they are not Danny.
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To send Danny to prison for a crime
that one of his alters committed
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would be the same as you going to
jail for a crime that I committed.
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Now, Danny's illness is rare,
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and it is the result of being
exposed to sexual abuse as a child.
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Frankly, he's lucky to have survived.
This illness is how he survived.
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I get it. It's weird. It's hard.
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But please, keep an open mind.
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Now, the prosecution was
right about one thing.
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This trial is about responsibility,
but it's not personal responsibility,
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it's societal responsibility.
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I mean, you wanna talk
about bedrock principles?
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How about how we just
take care of each other?
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How about how we take
care of the most hurt
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and the most
vulnerable among us?
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Everybody has failed this kid.
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His parents, his teachers, his
neighbors, his friends, his community.
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All of us have failed him.
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So now it is on us
to make it right.
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Now, I'm not asking
you to set Danny free.
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I am only asking that
you spare him prison
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and instead send him to
a hospital to get help.
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The help that he needs.
That is our responsibility.
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Thank you.
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We'll take a 15-minute recess and
then proceed to the State's witnesses.
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Officer, escort the
jury out please.
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You were actually
pretty good in there.
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Yeah? Pretty good
doesn't matter.
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Goddamn it! You know, Candy's
not returning my calls,
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and she ignored her subpoena,
by the way, which is a crime.
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She's scared. She's guilty.
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There's so much shame, she might
not even admit it to herself.
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In all fairness, do you think
I give a shit how she feels?
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This case turns
on the diagnosis,
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and the diagnosis depends on showing
the jury that Danny was abused.
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I just said it in there.
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If we don't get someone to testify
to this in open court, we are done.
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And I'm handcuffed, 'cause I
can't put my client on the stand
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'cause of that bullshit
he pulled in the hearing.
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- That was Jack. That wasn't Danny.
- Whoever it was,
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he's going to deny the
abuse and admit to the crime
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which would be bad.
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I am well aware.
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- You?
- You know I can't testify to his abuse.
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Technically, Danny never said that
he was abused. He never told me that.
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- Only Adam?
- Only Adam.
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I... It's fucking useless.
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What are we gonna do?
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You gotta convince her.
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But that's not up to me, Stan.
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Doesn't a mother have to love
her kid, for Christ's sake?
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No.
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But in this case, that's
what we have going for us.
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What?
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That she does love him.
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The State calls Marlin Reid.
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How would you describe your
relationship with your stepson?
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Strained, it pains me to admit.
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Look, I'm not perfect.
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And maybe sometimes I've
been too hard on him.
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Maybe other times,
not hard enough.
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The kids I see up at Osterville, most
never had a father, not a real one.
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And I wanted to
be that for Danny.
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Tell me about
Osterville. Tough job?
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Rewarding job. These kids
have had every disadvantage.
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You wouldn't believe what they've
survived in their homes, on the streets.
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Sure, they've made mistakes.
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But the thing I love about
my job is they're still kids,
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and it's not too late for
them to find their way back.
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You feel that way about Danny?
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I'll never give up on Danny,
but he's not a kid anymore.
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Given your relationship with him, you
have any idea why he did what he did?
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I honestly don't.
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Truth is, with Danny,
there is no "why."
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When he was picking fights at
school, or stealing from me,
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or dealing drugs or
using, the "why"...
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Why is just Danny.
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Just one more
question, Mr. Reid.
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At any point after
you were shot,
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did you report your
stepson to the authorities?
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- No.
- Why not?
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Because I wanted to protect him.
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Because in spite of everything…
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I love him like my own son.
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No further questions.
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A dramatic first day in court
as nine different witnesses
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identified Sullivan as the
Rockefeller Center shooter,
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including his own stepfather,
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Juvenile Correctional
Counselor Marlin Reid.
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Were you the intended target?
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I don't know. But the
toughest thing you learn in...
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Smells good.
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Needs another 20 minutes.
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How did he seem?
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Thin. I don't know. It's not
like we talked or anything.
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How'd I look?
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- You're kidding, right?
- What?
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I'm just trying to
do the right thing.
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The kid shot at me, Candy.
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Jesus.
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Taking a shower.
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Stop calling here.
I'm not testifying.
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Mom?
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Danny.
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I meant to come see you.
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It's okay.
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I'm sorry.
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Baby, this is not your fault.
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I'm sorry.
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It isn't even a real diagnosis.
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It's just a fringe theory
amplified by a TV movie.
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Then what do you make of Danny?
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Well, I'll tell you the same
thing that I told the jury.
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That I believe that
Mr. Sullivan is a malingerer.
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Acting in bad faith to
avoid criminal consequences.
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In layman's terms?
For the folks at home.
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He's faking it to keep
himself out of jail.
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I tried to get him
to be reasonable.
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How'd that go?
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Not what you would call ideal.
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He blindsided me, broke my
nose and stole it anyway.
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Did you attempt to
retrieve your gun?
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Yeah, I did. I went to
his house. I was pissed.
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But we had history. I figured
we could work something out.
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Got as far as a hello though before
he attacked me with a baseball bat.
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Then he shot at me.
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- No further questions, Your Honor.
- Mr. Camisa.
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Yeah, just one question. Mr. Ruiz,
you've known Danny for years.
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In all that time, has
he ever seemed normal?
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Normal?
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That boy's nuts. Craziest
son of a bitch I know.
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No further questions.
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I was scared.
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I'd never seen Danny
like that before.
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Then I heard the shot.
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What did you think when
you heard that gunshot?
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I thought that he killed him.
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You believed Danny Sullivan
to be capable of murder?
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In that moment, yes.
247
00:22:22,135 --> 00:22:23,803
No further questions,
Your Honor.
248
00:22:33,438 --> 00:22:34,439
Hi, Annabelle.
249
00:22:37,525 --> 00:22:39,110
Was Danny ever violent with you?
250
00:22:39,194 --> 00:22:40,195
No.
251
00:22:40,278 --> 00:22:42,989
- He ever make you feel unsafe?
- No.
252
00:22:43,073 --> 00:22:44,491
Was he mean? Abusive?
253
00:22:44,574 --> 00:22:46,159
No. Never.
254
00:22:46,701 --> 00:22:50,038
Then what was he like, the
Danny you knew? Your friend.
255
00:22:50,789 --> 00:22:51,831
He was sweet.
256
00:22:53,250 --> 00:22:55,669
He was quiet. Shy.
257
00:22:56,628 --> 00:22:57,629
Mostly.
258
00:22:58,255 --> 00:23:01,716
- Mostly?
- He was, yeah, sometimes not so shy.
259
00:23:04,052 --> 00:23:05,595
He was a little
all over the place.
260
00:23:05,679 --> 00:23:08,265
I'd like to refer the witness
to defense exhibit four.
261
00:23:08,348 --> 00:23:09,349
Go ahead.
262
00:23:16,481 --> 00:23:17,649
You recognize this drawing?
263
00:23:19,234 --> 00:23:20,360
Yeah, Danny drew it.
264
00:23:21,278 --> 00:23:22,279
It's you?
265
00:23:22,988 --> 00:23:24,072
Yep.
266
00:23:24,155 --> 00:23:25,156
It's good.
267
00:23:25,782 --> 00:23:27,784
Yeah, it's good.
268
00:23:27,867 --> 00:23:29,786
Danny really cared
about you, didn't he?
269
00:23:33,665 --> 00:23:34,791
I cared about him too.
270
00:23:35,458 --> 00:23:37,127
Earlier in your testimony...
271
00:23:37,836 --> 00:23:40,130
Now I'm referring to the
night with Mr. Ruiz...
272
00:23:40,213 --> 00:23:43,967
You said, "I'd never
seen Danny like that."
273
00:23:44,050 --> 00:23:48,889
How do you reconcile that night, that
Danny, with the boy that you knew?
274
00:23:48,972 --> 00:23:53,685
The sweet and quiet, never
violent, shy but sometimes not.
275
00:23:53,768 --> 00:23:55,270
The boy who drew this picture.
276
00:24:01,276 --> 00:24:03,403
Doesn't seem like the
same person, does it?
277
00:24:05,113 --> 00:24:06,114
No.
278
00:24:09,075 --> 00:24:10,535
No further questions,
Your Honor.
279
00:24:11,745 --> 00:24:14,664
- State requests a redirect.
- Proceed.
280
00:24:16,541 --> 00:24:19,085
To the best of your knowledge,
in the time you knew him,
281
00:24:19,169 --> 00:24:21,379
was the encounter with Mr. Ruiz
282
00:24:21,463 --> 00:24:24,758
the only occasion that Danny
Sullivan was ever violent?
283
00:24:24,841 --> 00:24:26,426
Objection, irrelevant.
284
00:24:26,509 --> 00:24:29,721
The question speaks to the
defendant's history of violence.
285
00:24:29,804 --> 00:24:30,805
Overruled.
286
00:24:30,889 --> 00:24:34,476
Was the encounter with
Mr. Ruiz the only occasion
287
00:24:35,435 --> 00:24:37,687
that Danny Sullivan
was ever violent?
288
00:24:38,730 --> 00:24:39,564
No.
289
00:24:40,774 --> 00:24:43,276
Back in high school, I
had this boyfriend, Bill.
290
00:24:43,860 --> 00:24:44,986
Danny got jealous.
291
00:24:45,487 --> 00:24:48,698
He beat him pretty bad. He
put him in the hospital.
292
00:24:49,574 --> 00:24:50,575
Another kid too.
293
00:24:51,409 --> 00:24:54,204
At the time, I told myself
it was this freak thing.
294
00:24:56,039 --> 00:24:57,165
Maybe Bill deserved it.
295
00:24:58,250 --> 00:24:59,501
Now I'm not so sure.
296
00:25:02,254 --> 00:25:03,463
No further questions.
297
00:25:38,331 --> 00:25:41,459
They're off to stalk your
son at the side exit.
298
00:25:41,543 --> 00:25:45,338
Apparently, perp walks sell papers.
Even the same perp walk twice a day.
299
00:25:46,172 --> 00:25:48,049
Do you wanna see him?
I can walk you around.
300
00:25:49,217 --> 00:25:51,344
No, not like that.
301
00:25:53,805 --> 00:25:54,806
I'm glad you came.
302
00:25:57,058 --> 00:25:58,578
There's a shitty bar
around the corner.
303
00:25:58,602 --> 00:26:01,021
It's mostly lawyers, but at
this hour it's not that bad.
304
00:26:04,316 --> 00:26:06,318
I don't know what you
people want from me.
305
00:26:09,613 --> 00:26:11,823
Please tell me that you
convinced her to testify.
306
00:26:11,907 --> 00:26:14,993
She came, didn't
she? That's progress.
307
00:26:15,076 --> 00:26:16,828
Progress is for
people with time.
308
00:26:17,412 --> 00:26:18,914
They're painting
a picture of a kid
309
00:26:18,997 --> 00:26:20,916
who goes after his
perfectly nice stepfather,
310
00:26:20,999 --> 00:26:23,460
shoots up a bunch of innocent
people in the process,
311
00:26:23,543 --> 00:26:26,343
and now he's pretending that he hears
voices so he can get out of jail.
312
00:26:26,379 --> 00:26:28,024
It's pretty compelling
stuff if you ask me.
313
00:26:28,048 --> 00:26:29,424
Whose side are you on, Stan?
314
00:26:30,050 --> 00:26:31,843
Right now, the losing one.
315
00:26:31,927 --> 00:26:33,053
Is it too late to switch?
316
00:26:34,012 --> 00:26:39,434
So she sees it today, her kid on
trial, and she goes back home to him.
317
00:26:39,517 --> 00:26:40,518
Stays with him.
318
00:26:41,186 --> 00:26:42,854
God, how does that even work?
319
00:26:42,938 --> 00:26:45,398
Maybe we're just not
built to survive alone.
320
00:26:45,482 --> 00:26:48,002
I mean, did you know that our
brain has these chemical receptors
321
00:26:48,026 --> 00:26:50,403
that light up when we
make human connections?
322
00:26:50,487 --> 00:26:52,864
- Oh, yeah?
- It literally turns on
323
00:26:52,948 --> 00:26:54,908
to make us feel like we're safe.
324
00:26:56,284 --> 00:27:00,038
Only, sometimes other
people aren't safe.
325
00:27:00,121 --> 00:27:02,457
Yeah, amen to that.
326
00:27:03,708 --> 00:27:06,294
I feel like you're gonna
make an ex-wife joke.
327
00:27:07,295 --> 00:27:08,713
I was considering it.
328
00:27:08,797 --> 00:27:10,090
Go on anyway.
329
00:27:10,590 --> 00:27:13,552
There's a whole world of ways
that people hurt each other.
330
00:27:13,635 --> 00:27:15,428
Yeah, you don't
know the half of it.
331
00:27:19,683 --> 00:27:23,979
Too much pain, in rare cases
like Danny's, the mind shatters.
332
00:27:24,062 --> 00:27:25,647
But most people, they...
333
00:27:25,730 --> 00:27:28,024
They find conventional
ways of avoiding the pain,
334
00:27:28,108 --> 00:27:32,988
like booze and drugs, sex,
that light up those receptors.
335
00:27:33,572 --> 00:27:36,575
- Those things work.
- And also being with the wrong person,
336
00:27:36,658 --> 00:27:39,494
because at least the
pain is familiar to them.
337
00:27:41,955 --> 00:27:47,419
If you ask me, I think that if
a relationship can break you,
338
00:27:47,502 --> 00:27:51,423
then sometimes a relationship
can also heal you.
339
00:27:52,007 --> 00:27:54,047
Please tell me you're not
saying love is the answer.
340
00:27:54,843 --> 00:27:56,595
I actually am.
341
00:27:59,556 --> 00:28:02,559
It's like that arrow story
that Jack told Danny.
342
00:28:02,642 --> 00:28:06,021
Fear of pain is worse
than the pain ever was.
343
00:28:07,188 --> 00:28:08,982
Jack? You mean
make-believe Jack?
344
00:28:09,608 --> 00:28:10,609
Yeah.
345
00:28:15,071 --> 00:28:16,489
We've all been hurt.
346
00:28:16,573 --> 00:28:17,782
Some more than others.
347
00:28:20,535 --> 00:28:24,205
And we can have a tendency to stay
in relationships that are bad.
348
00:28:24,289 --> 00:28:28,793
Those receptors are firing, telling
us not to risk losing what we have.
349
00:28:31,796 --> 00:28:32,631
Come here.
350
00:28:32,714 --> 00:28:37,093
Even if it's to find something
better for us, healthier for us.
351
00:28:37,677 --> 00:28:41,598
We stay with the hurt we know
rather than risk being hurt again.
352
00:28:42,682 --> 00:28:44,184
But we have a choice.
353
00:28:46,019 --> 00:28:47,771
The truth is, we always have.
354
00:28:48,355 --> 00:28:50,982
We just have to remember
to try to keep making it.
355
00:28:52,359 --> 00:28:55,237
To remember that other
people can hurt us,
356
00:28:56,279 --> 00:28:57,822
but they can also help us.
357
00:28:58,823 --> 00:29:02,494
That to reach out, to
let someone reach back,
358
00:29:03,703 --> 00:29:05,163
is a way out of pain.
359
00:29:08,667 --> 00:29:10,001
That doesn't mean it's easy.
360
00:29:12,254 --> 00:29:13,338
It's hard.
361
00:29:15,215 --> 00:29:16,216
Terrifying.
362
00:29:19,928 --> 00:29:22,180
We need to be brave
like Danny was brave,
363
00:29:23,098 --> 00:29:24,391
and ask for help.
364
00:29:26,017 --> 00:29:27,352
We don't have to be alone.
365
00:29:29,854 --> 00:29:30,855
Lights out.
366
00:29:40,907 --> 00:29:43,326
We met at Danceteria,
this club on 37th.
367
00:29:43,827 --> 00:29:45,745
Tell me about her.
What was she like?
368
00:29:46,997 --> 00:29:50,208
Ariana was something else.
369
00:29:51,042 --> 00:29:53,753
The way she moved.
The way she smiled.
370
00:29:54,671 --> 00:29:55,922
Iridescent.
371
00:29:56,006 --> 00:29:57,465
Everyone wanted to be with her.
372
00:29:57,549 --> 00:29:59,009
The boys, the girls.
373
00:29:59,092 --> 00:30:01,261
And she knew it. She worked it.
374
00:30:01,344 --> 00:30:05,348
Mr. Williams, do you see
Ariana in this courtroom?
375
00:30:09,311 --> 00:30:10,478
No.
376
00:30:10,562 --> 00:30:11,563
No?
377
00:30:12,272 --> 00:30:16,610
The thing is, he's
not her. Not anymore.
378
00:30:17,110 --> 00:30:18,194
How can you tell?
379
00:30:18,695 --> 00:30:20,155
Everything about
him is different.
380
00:30:20,238 --> 00:30:23,950
Like the way he sits,
curled in so small.
381
00:30:24,034 --> 00:30:28,121
And his eyes, which
give up everything.
382
00:30:29,164 --> 00:30:32,167
Ariana had a resting poker face.
383
00:30:32,250 --> 00:30:34,294
Girl was a brick wall.
384
00:30:35,086 --> 00:30:37,297
Not to mention,
Danny's straight.
385
00:30:38,048 --> 00:30:40,091
So you know Danny?
You've met Danny?
386
00:30:40,175 --> 00:30:42,344
I met him at Rikers
a few weeks ago.
387
00:30:42,427 --> 00:30:45,639
I saw the story in the
paper, and I went over there.
388
00:30:45,722 --> 00:30:48,141
I was just... I was looking
to understand, I guess.
389
00:30:48,225 --> 00:30:50,060
And what'd you find at Rikers?
390
00:30:53,813 --> 00:30:54,814
A stranger.
391
00:31:00,278 --> 00:31:03,281
Mr. Williams, did you have a sexual
relationship with the defendant?
392
00:31:04,241 --> 00:31:05,784
I had a relationship
with Ariana.
393
00:31:05,867 --> 00:31:07,762
I didn't ask you what the
defendant called himself.
394
00:31:07,786 --> 00:31:10,622
- I asked if you had a sexual...
- Objection. Asked and answered.
395
00:31:10,705 --> 00:31:11,873
Overruled.
396
00:31:12,457 --> 00:31:15,669
I could put the question to you in
more graphic terms, if you'd like.
397
00:31:17,963 --> 00:31:19,464
Yes, we did.
398
00:31:19,548 --> 00:31:21,716
- Where?
- Objection, irrelevant.
399
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,427
The question speaks to the true
nature of their relationship.
400
00:31:25,095 --> 00:31:26,388
Overruled.
401
00:31:26,471 --> 00:31:27,556
Where?
402
00:31:29,015 --> 00:31:30,016
The men's room.
403
00:31:30,976 --> 00:31:32,269
The men's room.
404
00:31:33,687 --> 00:31:35,522
How romantic.
405
00:31:35,605 --> 00:31:37,482
Couldn't anyone
have just walked in?
406
00:31:38,108 --> 00:31:40,360
Were your encounters
in full public view?
407
00:31:40,443 --> 00:31:41,820
We used a stall.
408
00:31:41,903 --> 00:31:45,282
Mr. Williams, you never shared
a meal with the defendant.
409
00:31:45,365 --> 00:31:47,492
- Never saw his home, did you?
- No.
410
00:31:47,576 --> 00:31:49,202
- Ever meet his friends?
- No.
411
00:31:49,286 --> 00:31:50,912
- Family?
- No.
412
00:31:50,996 --> 00:31:54,499
Your most intimate moments
were in a bathroom stall.
413
00:31:56,251 --> 00:31:58,587
How well could you possibly
have known this man?
414
00:31:58,670 --> 00:32:00,255
There was no "this man."
415
00:32:00,338 --> 00:32:03,341
There was only Ariana,
and I knew her.
416
00:32:03,425 --> 00:32:07,679
These clubs you frequent, are
there ever closeted gay men there?
417
00:32:08,179 --> 00:32:10,015
- Men with something to hide.
- Sure.
418
00:32:10,098 --> 00:32:14,978
So how could you know that
Ariana wasn't just an alias?
419
00:32:15,061 --> 00:32:16,771
A cover. A lie.
420
00:32:30,035 --> 00:32:31,036
It's on me.
421
00:32:31,119 --> 00:32:32,245
Mr. Camisa...
422
00:32:32,329 --> 00:32:34,748
Stan. And please, I got a
tab here. Tell her, Sam.
423
00:32:35,415 --> 00:32:36,541
He does owe me money.
424
00:32:37,042 --> 00:32:39,127
I come here a lot.
It's nothing. Please.
425
00:32:43,673 --> 00:32:45,050
We're gonna lose, Candy.
426
00:32:45,133 --> 00:32:48,678
Multiple personality disorder is
only ever caused by one thing,
427
00:32:49,471 --> 00:32:51,681
and we can't prove
that it ever happened.
428
00:32:51,765 --> 00:32:54,351
And worse, Danny denies
it ever happened.
429
00:32:54,434 --> 00:32:56,436
It's like arguing a
guy is shell-shocked
430
00:32:56,519 --> 00:32:58,688
and he swears that he's
never even seen a war.
431
00:32:58,772 --> 00:33:00,857
Our entire defense
is built around this.
432
00:33:00,941 --> 00:33:02,651
Well, then you've got
the wrong defense.
433
00:33:02,734 --> 00:33:04,903
- Candy...
- And you should have seen it coming.
434
00:33:04,986 --> 00:33:07,239
Well, why do you think I've
been calling you, repeatedly?
435
00:33:07,322 --> 00:33:09,908
Calling me is not an
actual legal strategy.
436
00:33:10,408 --> 00:33:12,244
I also subpoenaed you, which is.
437
00:33:12,744 --> 00:33:13,870
And you ignored it.
438
00:33:15,038 --> 00:33:17,207
I can ask the judge to find
you in contempt, you know.
439
00:33:20,335 --> 00:33:24,297
Look, please take the stand.
440
00:33:24,381 --> 00:33:26,007
Just tell 'em what
happened to Danny.
441
00:33:27,425 --> 00:33:31,179
Are you even aware of the accusation
that you're making right now?
442
00:33:31,263 --> 00:33:34,558
- Well, your husband's a sick man, Can...
- Not against my husband, against me.
443
00:33:37,477 --> 00:33:39,688
Find me in fucking contempt.
444
00:33:49,155 --> 00:33:54,953
The mind is an extraordinary thing,
capable of extraordinary transformations.
445
00:33:55,036 --> 00:33:58,540
Not just voices,
but bodies. Skills.
446
00:33:58,623 --> 00:34:00,750
Playing an instrument,
mastering chess,
447
00:34:00,834 --> 00:34:03,253
speaking a foreign language,
lighting up a room.
448
00:34:03,336 --> 00:34:05,547
These aren't things that
people can just fake.
449
00:34:05,630 --> 00:34:08,133
And these are people who
come from every walk of life.
450
00:34:08,215 --> 00:34:10,093
Every race. Every age.
451
00:34:10,175 --> 00:34:11,735
They're people who
have nothing to gain
452
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,431
from a diagnosis that
carries social stigma.
453
00:34:14,514 --> 00:34:16,016
MPD is real.
454
00:34:16,099 --> 00:34:21,146
And patients with MPD have suffered in
ways that most of us cannot comprehend.
455
00:34:22,564 --> 00:34:27,360
- They deserve empathy and compassion.
- And how have they suffered?
456
00:34:27,443 --> 00:34:30,195
Can't anyone just claim to have
other personalities inside them?
457
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:31,573
The literature is clear.
458
00:34:31,655 --> 00:34:33,700
For the diagnosis to apply,
459
00:34:33,782 --> 00:34:37,704
the patients must have experienced
severe childhood trauma,
460
00:34:38,413 --> 00:34:39,497
usually sexual.
461
00:34:40,081 --> 00:34:42,350
At a point in their lives when
they are the most vulnerable...
462
00:34:42,374 --> 00:34:43,710
The most in need
of protection...
463
00:34:43,793 --> 00:34:47,505
They are betrayed, usually by
somebody that they trusted.
464
00:34:48,006 --> 00:34:51,635
A child's mind isn't
equipped to handle this.
465
00:34:51,718 --> 00:34:54,221
It can't manage all
the contradictions.
466
00:34:55,387 --> 00:34:59,309
So the psyche fractures
and that's the first alter.
467
00:34:59,809 --> 00:35:00,977
The child goes away.
468
00:35:01,561 --> 00:35:03,021
Somebody new comes in.
469
00:35:03,104 --> 00:35:07,859
Someone better equipped to
navigate a terrifying world.
470
00:35:09,527 --> 00:35:10,987
And that's how it begins.
471
00:35:11,613 --> 00:35:16,243
It's a defense mechanism against
horrific, unfathomable pain.
472
00:35:17,953 --> 00:35:19,204
Can you tell me about Danny?
473
00:35:21,706 --> 00:35:24,334
I first met Danny at the police
station after his arrest.
474
00:35:24,417 --> 00:35:25,877
Only it wasn't
Danny, it was Jonny.
475
00:35:25,961 --> 00:35:27,170
And who's Jonny?
476
00:35:27,254 --> 00:35:30,924
Jonny is one of Danny's alters.
He's a literal escape artist.
477
00:35:31,591 --> 00:35:34,594
So when the shackles
came out, so did Jonny.
478
00:35:36,846 --> 00:35:38,723
So are these descriptions
479
00:35:38,807 --> 00:35:43,728
of Danny's so-called personalities
facts or speculations?
480
00:35:43,812 --> 00:35:45,522
They're my clinical judgments.
481
00:35:45,605 --> 00:35:48,525
Did Danny ever tell you he thought
he had multiple personalities?
482
00:35:48,608 --> 00:35:49,448
No, but it doesn't...
483
00:35:49,526 --> 00:35:52,904
In fact, wasn't it you who first
introduced the idea to him?
484
00:35:52,988 --> 00:35:55,949
Yes, because his symptoms
supported the diagnosis.
485
00:35:56,032 --> 00:35:57,117
So you say.
486
00:35:57,701 --> 00:35:59,554
But then you have a lot
riding on this, don't you?
487
00:35:59,578 --> 00:36:02,289
- I'm not sure what you mean.
- Who pays for your research?
488
00:36:02,372 --> 00:36:03,498
How do you make a living?
489
00:36:04,165 --> 00:36:06,793
Most of my work is
funded through grants.
490
00:36:06,877 --> 00:36:08,920
- Grants like the Reiling Grant?
- Yes.
491
00:36:09,004 --> 00:36:10,964
- Which expired last year.
- Yes.
492
00:36:11,047 --> 00:36:14,551
And is it true the university just
turned down a request from you
493
00:36:14,634 --> 00:36:15,844
for additional funding?
494
00:36:15,927 --> 00:36:19,472
There's only so much to go around, but
I'm going to reapply in the spring.
495
00:36:19,556 --> 00:36:21,683
- You have tenure?
- I'm up for it next year.
496
00:36:21,766 --> 00:36:23,643
So, with your funding drying up,
497
00:36:23,727 --> 00:36:27,022
your major grant expiring
and with tenure on the line,
498
00:36:27,105 --> 00:36:30,483
would it be fair to say that this is
a make-or-break moment in your career?
499
00:36:30,567 --> 00:36:32,569
- Objection.
- Withdraw the question.
500
00:36:32,652 --> 00:36:36,656
Would it be fair to say that a
high-profile case like this one
501
00:36:36,740 --> 00:36:38,950
could be a real
opportunity for you?
502
00:36:39,951 --> 00:36:41,631
Chance for you to make
a name for yourself.
503
00:36:42,579 --> 00:36:45,290
- I don't see my patients as opportunities.
- Don't you?
504
00:36:45,373 --> 00:36:47,959
I mean, why else did you walk
into that police station?
505
00:36:48,460 --> 00:36:51,880
Was it because you were having a
sexual relationship with the detective
506
00:36:51,963 --> 00:36:53,733
- who leaked Danny's case to you?
- Objection.
507
00:36:53,757 --> 00:36:55,717
Sustained. Take care, Counselor.
508
00:36:56,301 --> 00:36:57,469
Withdrawn.
509
00:36:58,345 --> 00:37:01,598
Why did you follow the
defendant to Rikers?
510
00:37:01,681 --> 00:37:06,436
There's a term for lawyers who
solicit business like that.
511
00:37:06,519 --> 00:37:07,979
- Ambulance chasers.
- Objection.
512
00:37:08,063 --> 00:37:10,482
- Sustained.
- Let me put it another way.
513
00:37:11,066 --> 00:37:15,237
When you walked into that police
station, what were you hoping to find?
514
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:16,947
I wasn't hoping
to find anything.
515
00:37:17,030 --> 00:37:20,492
See, I'm sorry, but I
find that hard to believe.
516
00:37:21,451 --> 00:37:25,622
You get a tip about a
kid. You drop everything.
517
00:37:25,705 --> 00:37:27,707
You run halfway
across Manhattan.
518
00:37:27,791 --> 00:37:30,502
- What did you take? The bus? The train?
- I took the train.
519
00:37:30,585 --> 00:37:33,046
You mean to tell me you're
not sitting on that train,
520
00:37:33,129 --> 00:37:35,549
hoping that this is the one?
521
00:37:35,632 --> 00:37:37,217
The one who makes you famous.
522
00:37:37,300 --> 00:37:39,386
The one who puts you
on the national stage.
523
00:37:39,469 --> 00:37:40,762
- Absolutely not.
- Objection.
524
00:37:40,845 --> 00:37:42,180
What do you know, it worked.
525
00:37:42,264 --> 00:37:44,474
Your Honor, the witness
is not on trial.
526
00:37:44,558 --> 00:37:46,977
Sustained. Move on, Counselor.
527
00:37:47,060 --> 00:37:49,813
Okay, Doctor. One last question.
528
00:37:49,896 --> 00:37:51,439
The defense claims...
529
00:37:51,523 --> 00:37:57,946
You claim that the cause of Danny's
so-called multiple personalities
530
00:37:59,155 --> 00:38:00,907
was sexual abuse in childhood.
531
00:38:02,659 --> 00:38:05,203
In all of your sessions
with the defendant,
532
00:38:06,580 --> 00:38:09,124
has he ever told you
he was sexually abused?
533
00:38:13,044 --> 00:38:16,089
Dr. Goodwin, has
anyone ever told you
534
00:38:16,172 --> 00:38:20,969
or had the defendant ever
claimed he was sexually abused?
535
00:38:22,721 --> 00:38:24,848
It's a yes or no question.
536
00:38:29,019 --> 00:38:30,103
Dr. Goodwin?
537
00:38:36,151 --> 00:38:36,985
No.
538
00:38:40,947 --> 00:38:42,267
No further questions,
Your Honor.
539
00:38:43,450 --> 00:38:45,327
Dr. Goodwin?
540
00:38:48,330 --> 00:38:50,040
What do you have to
say for your client?
541
00:38:50,123 --> 00:38:52,417
Dr. Goodwin, how do
you defend yourself?
542
00:39:22,405 --> 00:39:23,823
So, you were just using him?
543
00:39:26,326 --> 00:39:28,620
Candy, that could not be
further from the truth.
544
00:39:28,703 --> 00:39:30,372
And Camisa? He's
out of his depth.
545
00:39:30,455 --> 00:39:32,499
- Stan's a good lawyer.
- He's Legal Aid.
546
00:39:32,582 --> 00:39:34,292
He's working his ass off.
547
00:39:34,376 --> 00:39:35,502
He's falling apart.
548
00:39:35,585 --> 00:39:36,711
Who isn't?
549
00:39:38,171 --> 00:39:40,298
- Why are you here?
- 'Cause I know how this ends.
550
00:39:40,382 --> 00:39:42,050
I know who you'll all blame.
551
00:39:43,343 --> 00:39:45,804
But that's bullshit. You're
the ones who let him down.
552
00:39:49,391 --> 00:39:50,475
Candy, I...
553
00:39:51,351 --> 00:39:53,895
I gave your son
everything that I have.
554
00:39:55,564 --> 00:39:58,650
My heart is broken. But
my conscience is clear.
555
00:39:58,733 --> 00:39:59,568
So is mine.
556
00:39:59,651 --> 00:40:02,028
If that were true, you wouldn't
have followed me in here.
557
00:40:03,405 --> 00:40:04,614
And you're wrong.
558
00:40:04,698 --> 00:40:07,951
I would never have
blamed you. Never.
559
00:40:09,703 --> 00:40:10,704
Bullshit.
560
00:40:20,755 --> 00:40:25,093
I had this patient, Anna, when
I was a first-year resident.
561
00:40:27,679 --> 00:40:31,808
And Anna had been raped six
times, by six different men,
562
00:40:31,892 --> 00:40:33,310
over the course of eight years.
563
00:40:33,393 --> 00:40:35,312
And, Candy, she was 19.
564
00:40:35,937 --> 00:40:37,188
How do you explain that?
565
00:40:39,441 --> 00:40:42,736
There's a phenomenon,
an awful phenomenon.
566
00:40:44,112 --> 00:40:45,822
Victims of abuse survive.
567
00:40:45,906 --> 00:40:50,493
They get away, only to be
abused again by somebody else.
568
00:40:52,203 --> 00:40:58,126
And I think, hearing these stories,
"My God, these poor people.
569
00:40:59,127 --> 00:41:01,504
The unluckiest human
beings on the planet."
570
00:41:02,839 --> 00:41:04,841
Only it's not luck.
571
00:41:04,925 --> 00:41:07,552
It is a fucked up
twist of nature.
572
00:41:09,679 --> 00:41:14,684
Because as children, they are
forced to relate sexually.
573
00:41:16,436 --> 00:41:18,980
They are trained to be abused.
574
00:41:19,689 --> 00:41:24,152
Predators are very adept
at finding their prey.
575
00:41:24,945 --> 00:41:28,114
They're picking up on cues
that nobody else can see.
576
00:41:28,698 --> 00:41:32,744
These cues can be chemical,
psychological, behavioral, nonverbal.
577
00:41:34,996 --> 00:41:37,040
To the predator, neon signs.
578
00:41:37,540 --> 00:41:40,669
And here's the thing that
I cannot emphasize enough.
579
00:41:43,255 --> 00:41:47,259
None of it is under
the victim's control.
580
00:41:49,553 --> 00:41:52,931
None of it is the
victim's fault.
581
00:41:56,726 --> 00:41:58,895
You and Danny were prey,
582
00:41:59,854 --> 00:42:02,732
and I suspect Marlin isn't the
first predator in your life.
583
00:42:04,317 --> 00:42:05,443
And it's not your fault.
584
00:42:07,696 --> 00:42:09,739
And my heart breaks
for you, it does.
585
00:42:11,074 --> 00:42:13,285
Because you did
nothing to deserve it.
586
00:42:16,204 --> 00:42:20,083
So, no, I wouldn't blame you.
587
00:42:22,335 --> 00:42:23,336
For anything.
588
00:42:25,881 --> 00:42:30,677
But my hope would be that
if you take the stand,
589
00:42:31,344 --> 00:42:37,100
you might finally be able
to stop blaming yourself.
590
00:42:45,775 --> 00:42:46,776
Marlin.
591
00:42:55,452 --> 00:42:57,370
Do you understand
what you're asking?
592
00:42:59,497 --> 00:43:00,957
Guilt or grief…
593
00:43:03,585 --> 00:43:05,170
which one can you bear?
594
00:43:16,514 --> 00:43:19,517
You make too much bacon.
It's not good for me.
595
00:43:21,269 --> 00:43:23,355
I only make it
because you like it.
596
00:43:23,438 --> 00:43:25,732
Yeah, well, I like
living too. So, cut back.
597
00:43:25,815 --> 00:43:28,360
Let's face it, I
could lose a few.
598
00:43:29,694 --> 00:43:31,321
We've got to look
out for each other.
599
00:43:32,864 --> 00:43:33,865
See ya.
600
00:45:02,662 --> 00:45:03,663
Hi, honey.
601
00:45:05,707 --> 00:45:08,168
Thought I'd come by.
See you up there.
602
00:45:12,339 --> 00:45:14,674
I'm not a stupid man, Candy.
I know why you're here.
603
00:45:14,758 --> 00:45:16,176
I know what you're gonna say.
604
00:45:16,259 --> 00:45:18,470
I'm not even going to
tell you not to say it.
605
00:45:18,553 --> 00:45:19,930
You do what you want.
606
00:45:20,639 --> 00:45:24,434
But I wouldn't be doing my duty as
your husband if I didn't tell you
607
00:45:24,517 --> 00:45:26,478
that the words you say...
608
00:45:26,561 --> 00:45:32,484
That this terrible lie will change
the world you live in overnight.
609
00:45:33,693 --> 00:45:37,530
I mean, people staring at the
A&P and whispers all over town.
610
00:45:37,614 --> 00:45:39,616
"What kind of mother
would allow such a thing?"
611
00:45:40,325 --> 00:45:42,327
Well, you'll lose your
husband, of course.
612
00:45:42,410 --> 00:45:45,622
You'll also lose your job
and your home, eventually.
613
00:45:46,623 --> 00:45:49,834
Worst of all, you will lose
the illusion of who you are.
614
00:45:50,669 --> 00:45:55,257
And without it, all anyone will see is
what you allowed and what you admitted.
615
00:45:57,384 --> 00:45:58,802
That's all Danny will see.
616
00:46:00,387 --> 00:46:01,680
So, you'll lose him too.
617
00:46:09,104 --> 00:46:10,897
What was Danny like as a kid?
618
00:46:10,981 --> 00:46:14,442
He was a good boy. Sweet boy.
619
00:46:15,235 --> 00:46:17,862
- But he was always different.
- Different how?
620
00:46:19,447 --> 00:46:25,453
Too sensitive, I guess. Tender.
621
00:46:29,749 --> 00:46:35,005
The world's a tough place, and
we were all each other had.
622
00:46:37,674 --> 00:46:41,469
Ms. Reid, I'm gonna have to ask
you some difficult questions now.
623
00:46:41,553 --> 00:46:43,555
You can take your time
answering them, okay?
624
00:46:49,769 --> 00:46:53,815
Do you believe your son, Danny,
was ever sexually abused?
625
00:46:53,899 --> 00:46:54,900
Objection.
626
00:46:54,983 --> 00:46:59,988
Unless she personally witnessed abuse,
any answer will be pure speculation.
627
00:47:00,071 --> 00:47:03,909
Your Honor, most abuse happens
in secret without witnesses.
628
00:47:03,992 --> 00:47:06,953
If the mother of a child isn't
considered an expert witness
629
00:47:07,037 --> 00:47:09,748
on what happened to her son
in her own home, who is?
630
00:47:11,333 --> 00:47:13,209
Overruled. Proceed.
631
00:47:13,710 --> 00:47:16,838
Ms. Reid, do you believe Danny
was ever sexually abused?
632
00:47:31,228 --> 00:47:32,229
No.
633
00:47:33,730 --> 00:47:36,733
- I'm sorry. Let me ask that again.
- I don't believe he was abused.
634
00:47:38,652 --> 00:47:43,281
Ms. Reid, I understand that
this is very difficult for you.
635
00:47:43,865 --> 00:47:46,201
I just want to remind you
that you are under oath.
636
00:47:48,078 --> 00:47:50,705
Are you sure there
wasn't any kind of abuse?
637
00:47:50,789 --> 00:47:51,790
Objection.
638
00:47:51,873 --> 00:47:53,267
Are you sure you
didn't hear anything?
639
00:47:53,291 --> 00:47:54,334
Asked and answered.
640
00:47:54,417 --> 00:47:56,545
- Are you sure that you didn't see any...
- Sustained.
641
00:48:03,218 --> 00:48:04,219
Ms. Reid?
642
00:48:05,428 --> 00:48:06,429
No.
643
00:48:09,975 --> 00:48:10,976
No further questions.
644
00:48:11,893 --> 00:48:12,894
Ms. Richards.
645
00:48:14,312 --> 00:48:15,480
No questions, Your Honor.
646
00:48:15,564 --> 00:48:17,357
The witness is excused.
647
00:48:32,622 --> 00:48:34,749
We'll adjourn till tomorrow.
648
00:48:34,833 --> 00:48:36,209
Escort the jury out please.
649
00:48:38,128 --> 00:48:39,129
All rise.
650
00:48:47,345 --> 00:48:48,597
Danny, stand up.
651
00:49:09,284 --> 00:49:14,080
We tramped the open moorland
In the rainy April weather
652
00:49:16,082 --> 00:49:21,004
And came upon the little inn
That we had found together
653
00:49:22,172 --> 00:49:28,345
The landlord gave us toast and
tea And stopped to share a joke
654
00:49:29,679 --> 00:49:33,266
And I remember firelight
655
00:49:36,645 --> 00:49:41,358
I remember firelight
656
00:49:41,441 --> 00:49:44,527
And you remember smoke
657
00:49:48,615 --> 00:49:53,745
We ran about the meadow grass
With all the harebells bending
658
00:49:56,998 --> 00:50:02,462
And shaking in the summer
wind A summer never-ending
659
00:50:03,505 --> 00:50:08,969
We wandered to the little
stream Among the river flats
660
00:50:09,553 --> 00:50:13,598
And I remember willow trees
661
00:50:13,682 --> 00:50:16,935
I remember willow trees
662
00:50:17,018 --> 00:50:20,772
I remember willow trees
663
00:50:21,398 --> 00:50:24,442
And you remember gnats
664
00:50:29,406 --> 00:50:35,328
We strolled the Spanish
marketplace At 90 in the shade
665
00:50:36,079 --> 00:50:41,042
With all the fruit and
vegetables So temptingly arrayed
666
00:50:42,252 --> 00:50:45,422
And we can share a memory
667
00:50:45,964 --> 00:50:49,426
As every lover must
668
00:50:50,010 --> 00:50:53,430
And I remember oranges
669
00:50:53,513 --> 00:50:56,349
I remember oranges
670
00:50:56,433 --> 00:51:00,270
I remember oranges
671
00:51:00,770 --> 00:51:03,690
And you remember dust
672
00:51:05,650 --> 00:51:10,447
The autumn leaves are tumbling
down And winter's almost here
673
00:51:11,489 --> 00:51:16,244
But through the spring and
summertime We laughed away the year
674
00:51:30,634 --> 00:51:34,930
Two happy hearts
that beat as one
675
00:51:35,597 --> 00:51:41,061
When I had thought
that we were "we"
676
00:51:43,063 --> 00:51:50,028
But we were "you and me"
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