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象征着我们这个永春人的地气
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我们子孙
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代代子孙的平安
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一个龙脉
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一个龙脉
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真的是很优越
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而且是居高临下
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然后
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去守护着
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望着马六甲的市区
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然后望着
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马六甲所有的这些永春的乡亲
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永春的后代
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然后义山的成立
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其实
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我觉得是非常地具有人文关怀的
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马六甲永春会馆
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它是比较特殊的
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因为不是每一间会馆
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都有自己的学校
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有自己的义冢
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很多都是要与其他的华社团体
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其他的乡团来团结起来
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一起来盖学校
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一起来盖义山
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但是马六甲
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永春会馆
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它可能群众够大
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那所以它自己所形成的内部体系
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其实算是很完整的
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马六甲永春会馆 如同守护神
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默默守望这片土地上
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每一位逝去的灵魂
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坚守传统
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担起对逝者的敬意
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是南洋华社的永恒情怀
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也是永春会馆的神圣责任
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南洋热土
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多元文化汇聚
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华社在他乡
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坚守祖辈“死者为大”的传统信仰
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会馆不仅是栋建筑
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更是社群传承中华文化的象征
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世代移民在此相互扶持
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处理乡亲后事
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见证民俗传承
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早安
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所以你是
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永春人
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在这边第几代了
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我看我是第三代了
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第三代 我父亲也在本地出世的
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也不是从中国来的
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我的祖父是中国来的
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所以他们当时就是永春会馆的会员
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是 他们都是当时会馆的
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永春会馆的会员
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郑校长 可不可以谈一谈早期
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像永春会馆
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对于它的会员过世时候的
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照顾或者提供的服务
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到底是 有没有提供这样的一些照顾
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它们的照顾
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就是说 它们以这最廉宜的价格
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把这个 这个坟穴墓穴卖给这个会员
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这很便宜的
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所以每个会员都能够
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不只是会员
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只是那些永春的乡贤
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就能够享有这个福利
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主要他不一定是在马六甲咏春会馆的
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不是会员
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会员当然是有优惠
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那么非会员只要是永春
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就能够埋葬在永春的义山
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讲到会馆
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我们就不得不提
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会馆提供了一个
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非常重要的这个服务
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就是丧葬服务
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中国人的传统观念里面
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如何好好地把一个人安葬
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或者葬之以礼
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是一个非常重要的事情
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也是当时的一种义或者一种德行
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就衍生了一个东西
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叫做义山
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所以义山的义也来自这一个部分
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就是说
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我帮你们处理这个死亡的
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这么死者为大的身后事
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其实是一种义
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马六甲永春会馆
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除了可以找到它自己的
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这个叫做永春公司义冢之外呢
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我们也可以发现到
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在马六甲市区也有自己的永春会馆
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自己
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附设的殡仪馆
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基本上这一个殡仪馆跟义山
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我们其实可以把它看成是一个
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一条龙的
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一个概念
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怎么说一条龙
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就是人过世了过后
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他按照这个中国传统的丧葬礼俗
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他必须要先打斋
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或者先超度
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那必须要有个地方先停放
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所以
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就有了这个殡仪馆的产生
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我现在发现的永春总坟
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当然现在最早的是
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马六甲三宝山
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那个永春公司的1873年
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那现在永春国内的那个有自己的义山
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然后有总坟
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这样的一个情况案例不太多见
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有自己的义山比较明确
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就是Batu Pahat
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它有 而且还有个总坟
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另外一个就是麻坡武吉巴西 有个永德公冢
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然后这公冢底下也有个总坟
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然后日落洞
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加上这个三宝山的
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所以我们这几座永春总坟
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也可以看出
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这几个有总坟的地方
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永春人相对的人数会比较多
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永春社群成为一个社群
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比较论证就是
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具体证据
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是在1873年
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就是三宝山那个永春公司的义冢
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他叫永春公司义冢
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然后它立墓着
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永春众人立
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不是永春会馆立的
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那个冢坟是什么
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是永春公司义冢
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表示它是一个团体
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一个群体
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这个东西是干什么
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这个立冢的另外一个意义
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就是跟大家讲
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这个地方是我插旗
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我的地界
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我的地方
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这个地方有总坟
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表示有我的群体的存在
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对吧 所以不是
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不是每个地方都有这样的一个情况
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那所以总坟的意义
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它很多特殊的一个社会意义
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我觉得插旗 划地界
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就表示宣誓我的存在
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这个是总坟非常重大的意义
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建立这样一个义冢的话
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其实就是表示说
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他们跟我们
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虽然说
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我们当时第一代
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虽然说我们没有血缘上的关系
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我们并没有血缘上的关系
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可是我们都是来自同一个地方
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例如说我们来自中国的永春
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然后我们就在异国他乡
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我们就变成一个
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亲人般的存在
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所以我们就建立一个
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这个义冢
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然后来祭拜这些亲人
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然后这些跟我们
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实际上没有血缘关系
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可是
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我们也把它当成是我们的亲人
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什么是义冢
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就是说总坟
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但它应该是很多永春人
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当时有些已经客死异乡
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葬在三宝山
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那有些可能没有后代
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所以要避免
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这些人成为一种孤魂野鬼
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无主孤魂
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所以要有一个群体力量
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就把他们拾金
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把骨头拾起来
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然后集合在一起
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盖一个总坟
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就是以后春秋二季有人去祭祀
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至少有一个香火在延续下去
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这个是三宝山最高的地方
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以前这块地属于青云亭的
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那么青云亭的亭主
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几代都是由永春人来领导
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有陈金声
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陈明水他们 几代都是
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为了纪念他们对青云亭的贡献
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他们把这块地当为永春的
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献给永春的
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也就是赏赐他们
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对当时青云亭 对华社的贡献
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所以
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每年会馆里面有什么样的活动
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对这个义冢
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每年在春季清明节的时候
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我们都会选一天值日到这边来祭拜
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义冢
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在公元1873年
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那么就
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把这个2万方尺的四周围上来
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那么交给
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这个就是
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设立这个永春
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这个义冢
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这个义冢的设立代代有人顾
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代表着我们
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象征着我们这个永春人的地气
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我们子孙
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代代子孙的平安
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一个龙脉
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一个龙脉
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所以你看对着马六甲
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这个最重要的
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最热闹的那个道路
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叫做Jalan Munshi Abdullah
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也就是Newcome Road
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每年他们有三山九九登山
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这个是所有马六甲
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也是由中华大会堂的青年部主办的
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所以华社全部穿红衣
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来到这边
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来到这边
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有庆典
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这个是成为一个
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举办活动
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华社的文化活动的集中地
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可以给我们介绍一下这个碑吗
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这个碑是他们在重建的时候
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1994年重建立的碑
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不过这个被记载着
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这个
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这段
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义冢的历史
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社会或者是政治的领导人
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都是永春人
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你可以看到拿督姚继局绅
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也看到这个
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郑国球
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还有现在的这个国会议员
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邱培栋
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林万峰
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郭子毅
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都是
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都是永春人
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都是永春人
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所以就是我们引以为荣的
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就是永春有我们的先贤
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有保佑着我们的
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是
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是
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这一代 所以这就是我们所要扮演的
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唤醒新的一代对永春会馆未来的贡献
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所以
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需要我们下一代
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他们来了这边
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他们看了这个墓碑的时候
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他们也可以知道一点
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这个关于马六甲华社的历史
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我们来到马六甲三宝山的时候
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我们可以看到
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马六甲三宝山
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也有它们自己的一个义冢
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甚至是用永春公司这样的名字
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来做一个义冢
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环境
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真的是很优越
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而且是居高临下
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然后
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去守护着
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望着马六甲的市区
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然后望着
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马六甲所有的这些永春的乡亲
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永春的后代
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在马来西亚
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我们很习惯使用华人义山这个词汇
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我想你谈起义山
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马来西亚华人 应该没有人
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是不知道的
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可是据我们所研究
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到现在的话
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华人义山
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应该只是存在于海外华人社会
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尤其是东南亚
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我们会用义山这个词汇
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你到台湾去
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然后你到中国大陆去
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用的并不是义山这样的一个词汇
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我想
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这是我们算是一个比较独特的文化
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然后义山成立的话
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其实
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我觉得是非常具有人文关怀的
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因为在我们的整个习俗文化中呢
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我们会认为说
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如果一个人他死了之后
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他并没有一个安葬
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这个所谓的葬身之地
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然后
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他的鬼魂 还是他的魂魄
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可能就得不到安宁
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会到处飘
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这当然是民间习俗的一个传说
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可是我想说
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也反映出华人社会
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一个互助精神
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然后在义山里头
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我们有时会看到
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有一些人
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他们没有子嗣
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然后他们的亲属
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有子嗣的会帮助他们
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例如清明节的时候
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会继续去拜他们
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然后会相信说
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他们继续得到祭拜
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所以我觉得这是非常
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具有这个同乡情怀的
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义山也有另外一种名字
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那种名字叫做公司山
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所以我们可以看到
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在过去开发一些地方的时候
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很多时候
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是以公司的形式去开发的
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像例如以前开发
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芙蓉
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或者开发霹雳的时候
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或者雪兰莪
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你会时常听到这个义兴公司
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海山公司
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之类的
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所以这些公司一样
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就是它底下的这个会众
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或者它的苦力
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他过世的时候
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当然也为他们寻找葬地
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然后帮他们安葬
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所以这些安葬的场所
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这种冢地
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我们就会把它叫做
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义山或者公司山
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我们可以透过义山
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去了解一个地方的人口
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因为义山其实你看到每一块墓碑
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基本上就跟我们的身份证一样
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我们的身份证有我们的名字
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有我们出生的年月日
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有我们居住在哪里
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那同样的
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你在义山的墓碑也可以找到
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姓名还有他的性别
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还有他什么时候过世的
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立碑的年份
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甚至有
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出生的年份
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还有他孩子的名字
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然后还有他的祖籍地
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所以就透过这些墓碑的义山
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我们可以
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如果作为一个广大范围的一个收集的话
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大概你可以从这个
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义山墓碑的数据里面
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大概去了解一个地方 在时间过程中的
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这个人口的变化
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或者你要知道这个地方的方言群
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哪一個方言群占了比较主流或者优势
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那基本上你透过义山墓碑的普查
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你可以知道
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之前的时候
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永春人埋在哪里
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他们有没有自己的义山
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其实马六甲还有几个永春山
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不是会馆的
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日落洞也是我们
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日落洞也是有一部分是永春的
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日落洞是谁都可以葬
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不管你什么籍贯
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它是属于青云亭管理的
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早在民国22年
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大概1930年代的时候
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就已经有永春的这个义山
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然后甚至也有永春他们自己的义冢
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留在里面
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所以表面上看是1933年
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但是其实从义冢的角度看来的话呢
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因为义冢
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基本上是从其他地方捡骨
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然后再收集骨头
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葬到义冢里面去
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所以
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从这样的一个1930年的义冢来看的话
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其实我们可以推之在更早的
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时间点里面 再往前推的
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更长远的历史来讲
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其实永春人在马来西亚郊区
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其实也有一定的这个势力
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永春会馆
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会不会每年有什么样祭拜的活动
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清明节的时候
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清明节春祭
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我们从那边拜了就过来
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就过来这边拜
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那个比较早
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这个比较迟这样
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对 对 同样一天
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我们就是早上去那边
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差不多过了9点 我们来这边
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通常祭拜仪式都是主席 署理
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还有一些福利组的理事 是会就
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头家 炉主过来
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我们有选这个头家 炉主的 他们过来这边拜
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福建人
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我们的墓碑是有算字的
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怎样算
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可以讲解一下
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如果是像这种的
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我们是算 兴旺衰微
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假如是广东的话
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海南人
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他们都是算五个字
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生老病死苦
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OK
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所以这个是兴旺
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兴旺衰微
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一定要兴要旺
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衰微两个字不可以用
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马六甲永春善后互助会于1954年成立
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当时互助会仅是一个小组
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扎根在永春会馆
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以扶持同乡为宗旨
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会员相互扶助
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共同肩负着为同乡善后的神圣使命
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1960年的会议
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决定收回107号圭场街的产业
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并进行整修
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将其改建为殡仪馆
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这座建筑原本用于出租牟利
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现在回归本会
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专门服务永春同乡和华社的身后事
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1961年
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107号圭场街正式注册为永春殡仪馆
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会馆制定了12项简章
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加强服务品质
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全力扶持永春同乡和华社丧葬所需
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一座会馆承载着两个时代
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从互助会到殡仪馆
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始终紧握同乡之手
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生前扶持陪伴
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死后处理后事
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这就是永春会馆的情义
477
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代代相传
478
00:15:54,700 --> 00:15:55,133
479
00:15:55,133 --> 00:15:57,999
这样它的殡仪馆 那个时候大概
480
00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,100
已经有多久了
481
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殡仪馆也是在那个时候
482
00:16:01,733 --> 00:16:04,066
那个时候就成立在鸡场街
483
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在鸡场街
484
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鸡场街
485
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是在一个街道里面 然后设立一个殡仪馆
486
00:16:08,900 --> 00:16:09,600
在鸡场街
487
00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:10,733
其实这个
488
00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:12,600
这个殡仪馆
489
00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,966
是在永春会馆的建筑物里面
490
00:16:15,966 --> 00:16:16,333
491
00:16:16,333 --> 00:16:21,499
因为鸡场街和这个荷兰街是接着的
492
00:16:21,666 --> 00:16:24,199
所以他们是一栋建筑物
493
00:16:24,666 --> 00:16:25,999
后面没有后巷
494
00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,666
后来政府才把它开后巷
495
00:16:29,666 --> 00:16:30,566
496
00:16:30,566 --> 00:16:31,766
其实没有后巷的时候
497
00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,066
殡仪馆就是靠一扇门
498
00:16:34,066 --> 00:16:35,266
这样你就开进去
499
00:16:35,266 --> 00:16:36,966
那后面就是殡仪馆
500
00:16:36,966 --> 00:16:37,933
是
501
00:16:38,666 --> 00:16:41,366
那么我们就
502
00:16:41,366 --> 00:16:42,866
这个就是给予
503
00:16:42,866 --> 00:16:46,066
照顾这个永春乡亲的福祉
504
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他们的福利
505
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因为在教育这个福利方面
506
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这个是永春会馆向来所扮演的角色
507
00:16:54,966 --> 00:16:56,499
508
00:16:57,100 --> 00:16:59,000
那经过时代的改变
509
00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:00,866
因为我们现在马六甲的市区
510
00:17:00,866 --> 00:17:02,399
都有很多游客
511
00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,000
然后车也很多
512
00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,066
人也很多
513
00:17:05,066 --> 00:17:06,933
后来那个殡仪馆
514
00:17:06,933 --> 00:17:08,599
设在那边
515
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会不会有什么带来的不便
516
00:17:10,766 --> 00:17:13,266
那你们怎么去克服这个挑战
517
00:17:13,266 --> 00:17:15,199
所以由于这个
518
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鸡场街已经变成了旅游景点
519
00:17:20,300 --> 00:17:20,900
所以
520
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我们的确 殡仪馆面对很多问题
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尤其是
522
00:17:28,533 --> 00:17:29,533
面对我们
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00:17:29,700 --> 00:17:33,600
当这个商家要举办这个出殡
524
00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,800
或者是致祭的仪式
525
00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:37,266
都是面对很多问题
526
00:17:37,266 --> 00:17:39,133
因为交通非常的拥挤
527
00:17:39,166 --> 00:17:41,066
所以还有
528
00:17:41,533 --> 00:17:43,599
这个殡仪馆
529
00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,200
是成为最后的选择
530
00:17:46,466 --> 00:17:47,933
商家到马六甲
531
00:17:47,933 --> 00:17:48,933
找没有地方了
532
00:17:48,933 --> 00:17:50,966
才来找永春会馆的殡仪馆
533
00:17:51,066 --> 00:17:52,966
那么我们是公开给
534
00:17:52,966 --> 00:17:54,466
马六甲的华社
535
00:17:54,466 --> 00:17:55,899
不分籍贯
536
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可以租用
537
00:17:58,133 --> 00:18:01,299
所以当时租用率
538
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非常的少
539
00:18:04,166 --> 00:18:06,166
从经济观点来看
540
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OK就把它租出去
541
00:18:09,066 --> 00:18:14,066
那么再另外找一片地开始策划
542
00:18:14,066 --> 00:18:15,899
建新的
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新式的这个殡仪馆
544
00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:19,933
和骨灰塔
545
00:18:20,100 --> 00:18:22,966
这个就是我们正在进行的
546
00:18:22,966 --> 00:18:27,399
也就是说永春会馆的角色正在改变
547
00:18:27,533 --> 00:18:28,799
而且是与时并进
548
00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:29,700
与时并进
549
00:18:31,466 --> 00:18:34,466
就是关闭这个殡仪馆
550
00:18:35,100 --> 00:18:37,733
那么我们就要用它的执照
551
00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:42,000
我们再去和这个富贵合作
552
00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:43,466
我们再找一块地
553
00:18:43,533 --> 00:18:49,133
来做四间最新的殡仪馆
554
00:18:49,700 --> 00:18:52,000
然后后面再做骨灰塔
555
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人在他乡
556
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会馆是永春人的归属
557
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互相扶持
558
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生老病死
559
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患难与共
560
00:19:01,466 --> 00:19:02,733
生命消逝
561
00:19:02,900 --> 00:19:05,566
会馆弟兄送最后一程
562
00:19:06,300 --> 00:19:08,500
世代移民聚集此地
563
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与会馆结下不解之缘
564
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扶老携幼
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烛照归路
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会馆义气世世代代传颂
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异乡情更浓
568
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永春情此情不渝
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