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A black holeis stranger than anything
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dreamed up by science fiction writers.
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A region of space
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where gravity is so strong
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that nothing can escape.
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Once you are over the edge,
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there's no way back.
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Wow.
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It never ceases to get me,
seeing these two mountains up here.
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It's a bit deceptive.
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It looks as though you can just hike up
there in a couple of hours.
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But that is a big
elevation shift from where we are now.
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I was not a boy astronomer,
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I didn't have a telescope growing up...
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but I do remember seeingwhat a black hole was.
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I thought there arevery interesting things
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in the universe to be explored.
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The Event Horizon Telescopeis a new instrument
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that a global team is assembling...
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that will havethe magnifying power to resolve
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the region immediatelyaround a black hole.
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That's never been done before.
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We are chasing downsomething that struggles
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with all of its might to be unseen.
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And we're saying "we're gonna catch you".
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When you get to about 15,000 feet,
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you're-you're above
quite a bit of the atmosphere.
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You really need to be abovethe atmosphere to see through
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to the emptiness of space.
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The goal of the Event Horizon Telescope
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is really easy to state,
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we're gonna takethe first picture of a black hole.
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What I had yesterday as of noon,
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was every part of the system
of the front end working...
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We've come tothe LMT here in January
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specifically to dowhat's called a dry run.
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And we're discovering problems.
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Then, we tried to replace the Gunn,
now we've lost power,
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and that's what we're
troubleshooting upstairs now.
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Today I'm going to try to get
the Gunn working again, the old Gunn...
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But if we went back
to this old Gunn...
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then...
- Yeah.
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we're still compatible with the EHT...
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By doing a double-down conversion. Yes.
- for January and April.
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April is when we're going to have
all the telescopes around the world,
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the full EHT working,
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and it's our best shot
at imaging a black hole.
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But before we get there, we've got
to make sure that everything is working.
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So the first goal is to try to get
the 232.1 gigahertz
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working again with the old Gunn.
- Yeah. right.
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If that doesn't work...
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My plan B... My plan B...
- then what?
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is that...
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The larger the telescope,the better it's able to see tiny objects.
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To resolve the black hole
in the center of our galaxy
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or the bigger black hole in M87,
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we need a telescope
nearly the size of the earth.
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Well, that's clearly impossible.
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So we do the next best thing.
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We take telescopesscattered around the world
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and make them all look simultaneouslyat the black hole.
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Imagine taking a mirror
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and smashing it with a hammer
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and distributing these shardsall over the world.
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And then recording what happens
on each of those shards
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and then bringing them together
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and reconstructing that mirror
in a supercomputer.
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That's what the
Event Horizon Telescope is doing.
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So at every site,everything has to work perfectly.
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I think this thing took quite a hit.
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In shipping?
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If it turns on and it smokes then
we'll know there's something wrong.
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Yeah.
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We still have to make some tests.
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Tomorrow we are going to triggera real observation.
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And that's gonna involvethe South Pole, Spain, Chile,
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and God willing, the LMT.
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You've got a clock ticking.
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I know.
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Cue the Mission Impossible theme.
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Look at-- That's the telescope,buried underneath that
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uh, SHIT, if I may say so.
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Wait, what happened here?
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What-What happened?
- Weather happened to us.
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Wait, you're shitting me.
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Last 16 hours it's been beautiful
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and as soon as we come up,
like the gods hammer us?
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That's crap.
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Well we can't point and focusthrough this weather right now
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The schedule is supposed to start
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In 40 minutes...
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In, uh, 35 now.
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If we're still in the clouds
and it gets really cold,
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it's going to be an ice situation.
- Yeah.
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That's a possibility.
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That's what I'm worrying about.
- Yeah, I'm really worrying about that.
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Everybody cross their fingers,
use your favorite incantations,
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and we'll clear through this.
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Okay, so we're gonna
set levels in the other room
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and then we'll be ready to go.
- I need to adjust the power level
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of the upstairs a little bit.
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You realize
that we're firing this thing off
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in exactly 14 minutes and 15 seconds.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know but...
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Ah, jeez.
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Did you say 6573?
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So it's RCP and LCP high, right?
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We got one minute.
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Here we go, people,
hold onto your hats.
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Okay, we're ready.
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Four, three, two, one, zero!
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Blast off.
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Oh boy.
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What is a black hole?
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It is so deep,
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it's so hard to fully appreciateall of the physics that's going on.
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You can spend your life studying this.
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Imagine an object
where gravity has become so strong
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it has compressed all of the material
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with which it started down into a point.
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This object developswhat's called an event horizon.
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And this event horizonhas this amazing property
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that it's a one-way street.
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You can go from the outside to the inside,but nothing will ever get out.
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The gravitational pull is so strong
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that anything that comes close enough
to it will just vanish inside.
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If something disappearsover the event horizon it's gone.
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And we no longerhave any knowledge of it.
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It is no longer detectable,it's no longer knowable.
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It might still exist,
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it might not still exist,
we have no way of knowing.
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We have a contactwith a kind of phenomenon
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that we don't fully understand.
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It's like a vortexin the universe in space and time.
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The darkest object we can imagine
mathematically fundamentally
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emits no light, reflects no light.
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But it becomes the engine
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of the most powerful eventswe now observe in the universe.
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There's something about them
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that really pushes the mind.
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Can you hear me?
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Yes.
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It is said that fact
is sometimes stranger than fiction,
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but nowhere is that more true
than in the case of black holes.
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Currently I'm working
with my Cambridge colleague Malcolm Perry,
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and Andy Strominger from Harvard,
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on a new theory to explain the mechanism
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by which information is returned
out of the black hole.
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Watch this space...
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I met Stephen in 1982.
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Over the years we coincided on a numberof topics, a surprising number,
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but the very kind of intense thingthat's grown over the last,
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what is it now, three years? Yeah.
- Three years. Yeah.
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Has been a whole new, wonderful level.
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And quite different.Quite different, yeah.
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It was a fabulous warm day,
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kind of unusual in England for April,
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so we had a lecture outside.
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This was in a placecalled Great Brampton House.
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For the last 10 years, Stephenand friends organized a small retreat.
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I had these ideas about
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the structure
of the edges of infinity and...
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how they could store information.
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I was simply listeningto this lecture and I felt
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that the phenomenon he was describing
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could be happening
on the surface of the black hole.
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Stephen picked upon that immediately.
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He said, this is it, this is the piece
that we've been missing.
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He is very eager to unravel the paradox
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that he unleashed on the world in 1975.
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Something calledthe information paradox,
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which basically says that black holes
annihilate information,
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which should not be possible.That's the paradox.
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It implies that there's a breakdown
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of laws of physicsin the presence of black holes.
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This is whywe're chasing this problem,
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because if information is lost,
then that contradicts
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almost everything we know about physics.
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Something's gone wrongunderstanding how black holes work.
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From the outside you can't tell
what is inside a black hole.
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When you look at a black hole,
all you can tell about it
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are its mass, its charge
and its state of rotation.
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And that's the same for any black hole
no matter what it was made out of.
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This means that a black hole contains
a lot of information
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that is hidden from the outside world.
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That was a very weird thing people
to get to grips with and then
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Stephen Hawking made
this amazing discovery
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of Hawking Radiation, that says actually
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stuff comes out of a black hole,
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and that's wherethe problem really started.
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It turns outthey're not black, they radiate.
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And as they radiate they lose massand eventually disappear.
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An equivalent mass of elephantscould form a black hole,
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an equivalent mass of Encyclopedia
Britannica could form a black hole.
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The black hole evaporates
and what's left behind
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is the same sea of Hawking Radiation.
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It appears that the information
about what fell in is lost.
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The particles that
come out of a black hole
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seem to be completely random
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and to bear no relation to what fell in.
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If what Hawking said were correct,it can spit out anything.
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It can spit out a piano,
it can spit out a trombone, it--
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It can-- Anything can come out.
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That means thatthe basic nature of the universe
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is just random.
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There aren't really physical lawswhich govern the entire universe.
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This is every physicist's nightmare.
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Much of our knowledge of the universe
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is grounded on
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our belief that we can reliably predictusing the laws of nature.
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We have a physical theory,
we make predictions using that theory,
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we do experiments or observations
to see if those predictions were realized.
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We understand the early universeby using the laws of physics
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to predict backwards and saywhat the world must have been like.
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If those laws break down,
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it's about the limits of knowledge.
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What sorts of thingscould we possibly know about the world?
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If the predictabilityof the universe
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breaks down with black holes,
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it could break down in other situations.
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Even worse, if information is lost,
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we can't be sureof our past history either.
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The history books and our memories
could just be illusions.
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It is the past that tells us who we are.
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Without it we lose our identity.
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Since I was a graduate student,the information paradox
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has been central in my thinking.
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It's a sort of 24/7 thing.
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I get up, I make myself a cup of coffee,I sit down with a pad of paper.
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I'm thinking about itwhen I brush my teeth,
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dream about it.
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It is the most interesting,well-posed question
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in modern physics.
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So interesting that
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I was ready to devote my life
to trying to understand it.
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In the 40 yearssince Hawking's argument...
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By the way,
while, while Malcolm's erasing...
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There's certainly beenthousands of papers
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about how the paradox might be avoided.
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None of them has gained
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universal acceptance
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and they all are problematic
in one way or another.
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So the magical formula I think
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I could write out in excruciating detail.
- Yeah.
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So while Malcolm's writing, um...
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what we've done
is first of all worked out...
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But now, Stephen, Malcolmand I have found a mechanism
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by which the information paradox
might possibly be resolved.
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Wow. Seems very exciting.
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It's the beginning of something deep,
we really quite don't know what...
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Investigating thisis vigorously underway now.
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But central terms of what...
- What is the super rotation?
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So, the super rotations,
so ordinary BMS group
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Physics is about finding the truth
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about the universe.
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We might not ever get all of it...
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This then gives us a conservation law...
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but I think
there's a good shot that, uh,
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in my lifetime, we'll nail this one.
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And so that's conservation
of super rotation charge.
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Now, let me erase here...
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Seeing is believing.
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That's the most credible and the mostpowerful sense that we have.
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We need to see things.
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We long to see things.
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In my mind, like for 10 years,
there's no question there is a black hole
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and there's no question it's possible.
I still want to see that stupid image.
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I want to see it.
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We have never actually
seen the telltale sign of the black hole
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which is that virtual region, the horizon,
from which not even light can escape.
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With the Event Horizon Telescopewe're going to zoom
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all the way to the size of the horizon,
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and see if it will casta silhouette, will cast a shadow.
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The Event Horizon Telescopeis the culmination
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of really decades of work.
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Once we beganto realize that we could make an image,
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that became fascinating.
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So over the past yearswe've gone to new sites,
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and we've had to convince thosenew sites that the science is worthy.
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We've had to develop
and install very specialized
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and expensive equipment
at all of these sites
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in all of these extreme places.
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We are now at the moment when
we'll be doing our first observing
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with the chance of making an image.
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That's still a question mark but
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local wisdom is a go.
- Yeah.
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SPT weather good, no-go for pointing.
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Pointing issues.
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SMT technically ready, weather forecast
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possible of high wind
but unlikely to cause anything.
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So night's outlook
is good, right?
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Yes.
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We set up telescopes around the earth
that can talk to each other,
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that can record data in tandem,
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so after the factwe can combine these data
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and make it act likethey were actually one telescope.
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Right now, the Event Horizon Telescopeis an array
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of eight dishes across the globe
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from the South Poleto the Arizona desert to Hawaii to Chile
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creating, effectively,an earth-sized telescope.
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Weather forecast is good for Pico.
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I mean, they say excellent, so...
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Looks pretty good to me.
- I'm changing this to .2...
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I'd like to see the LMT water vapor map.
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When you have a single facility,
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it's the weather above that one telescope
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that has to be perfect
for a night's observing.
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Now imagine you need perfect weather
at every single site around the array.
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By the time we start observing,
it's going to have moved past
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but we don't know
what else is going to move in.
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Seems to be accelerating.
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Right.
- So SMT is getting worse.
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So what are the pinch points here?
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It's really just LMT and SMT,
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and we're gonna have to make
a decision based... at South Pole,
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just based on what we know now
which is they might have pointing issues.
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LMT, how worried are you
about the maser?
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I'm a little worried about the maser
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just because we haven't done
some of the tests that would let us...
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see how good it is.
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Shep, it's 3:30, we have half an hour.
- Yeah.
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Should we call it?
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I basically think
that we should trigger for tonight.
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I think it's probably
the best weather we're gonna get,
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technical issues are breaking our way.
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I mean, of all the nights
to have a question mark
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by South Pole this is the one to have it.
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Yeah.
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Um...
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We'll get some pretty good
M87 scans, one hopes, right?
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So let it be written, so let it be done.
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I will make the decision,
I will broadcast it.
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Night five, track D is a go!
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May all future nights
be as good as this one.
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And then, all around the world,
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all the telescopes swivel at the same time
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and we will begin to record photonsfrom the black hole.
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How big a black hole looksin the sky is a combination of its mass
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and how far away it is.
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The black hole at the centerof our galaxy, Sagittarius A-,
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has the largest angular size in the sky
followed by M87.
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M87's black holeis a thousand times bigger
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but roughly a thousand times farther away.
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They turn out to havepretty comparable sizes in the sky.
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This is central command,
it's always manned 24/7.
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Uh, people write in and they say
I'm having an emergency with
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one of my recorders,
or my receiver, or something.
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We hope to be bored.
348
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We hope that there's nothing to do
349
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and that everything is going smoothly
and that nothing goes wrong.
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But you know, we're here just in case.
351
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We've just finished Day Three
of the EHT observations.
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It's been unprecedented.
353
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We triggered three consecutive
nights of observing
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and that's because
the weather has been phenomenal.
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And the team is quite tired
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because we've been working
round the clock for three days.
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They're at high altitude sites,
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they're paying
a lot of attention to detail,
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they're under a lot of stress,
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they're trying to run down problems,
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and we're pushing people
to the limit at this point.
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Final scanof Sagittarius A- begins.
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This is it, oh yeah,
so this is it. The final scan
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of the 2017 observations
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on Sagittarius A-.
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โชSomewhere over the rainbow โช
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โช Bluebirds fly โช
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Did you write that "woohoo"?
- Yup.
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โช Dreams that you dream of โช
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โช Dreams really do come true-ooh-ooh โช
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โช Someday I'll wish upon a star โช
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โช Wake up wherethe clouds are far behind me โช
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โช Where โช
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I think this song just really captures
how good it is to realize something
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that you've been working on for ages.
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How long?
377
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I've been working on this for...
378
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I don't know, 20 years.
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Next at every EHT site, everybody
will pack up the hard disk drives
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carefully, very carefully,
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ship them back
to the central processing facility.
382
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Wait. Guys, we're done!
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We just finished...
We've finished the whole thing?
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We're done, it's a wrap!
385
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We just finished the entire scan,
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and the entire schedule,
and the entire campaign,
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and the entire Event Horizon Telescope
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observations for this year.
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The great challengefor the Event Horizon Telescope
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is only when you get all the data back
to the central correlation facility
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do you truly know that everything worked.
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And that will take over a month.
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Until then there's always this tension,
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00:28:57,986 --> 00:29:01,072
there's always this slight uncertaintythat something's been overlooked.
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So May, springtime, rebirth,
imaging black holes,
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it's gonna be quite a summer,
I'll tell you that.
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It's beena perennial question
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in the philosophy of science,
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if what we're primarilyinterested in are phenomena
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as they can be detected experimentally,
401
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how, in fact,
402
00:31:36,811 --> 00:31:39,898
do we come to have knowledge
about unobservable entities?
403
00:31:51,701 --> 00:31:57,040
I've always had a pull
towards the invisible
404
00:31:57,332 --> 00:31:58,666
and the mysterious.
405
00:31:59,959 --> 00:32:03,004
I've sort of naturally gravitatedto black holes.
406
00:32:06,382 --> 00:32:11,387
But a black hole is very, very hardto understand with just the equations.
407
00:32:19,562 --> 00:32:23,566
If you really want to know anything
at any level of detail,
408
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,987
you're not going to do it
with just, just pure mathematics,
409
00:32:28,071 --> 00:32:29,113
it's not going to happen.
410
00:32:29,489 --> 00:32:31,741
You need to simulate it on a computer.
411
00:32:39,123 --> 00:32:42,794
You have what's called an accretion diskthat's orbiting the black hole.
412
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It's chaotic.
413
00:32:48,049 --> 00:32:51,844
It's ionized gas,it's got magnetic fields,
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the whole thing is churning.
415
00:32:55,348 --> 00:32:57,684
The gas gets hot and then it radiates.
416
00:33:02,438 --> 00:33:04,440
That gets a little too complicated
417
00:33:04,524 --> 00:33:07,193
for a theorist to calculatewith pencil and paper.
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00:33:15,576 --> 00:33:20,456
Simulations reallyhelp us make what is invisible,
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what is unseen, seen.
420
00:33:55,575 --> 00:33:57,785
It must be Andy.
- Hiya.
421
00:33:58,953 --> 00:34:01,164
We have almost incredibly good news.
422
00:34:01,372 --> 00:34:03,166
What?
423
00:34:04,083 --> 00:34:05,168
But not quite.
424
00:34:05,752 --> 00:34:07,587
There's a missing link somewhere.
425
00:34:08,254 --> 00:34:10,673
If you don't worry about it
you get the right answer.
426
00:34:10,757 --> 00:34:12,717
Oh well, I never worry, so...
427
00:34:13,468 --> 00:34:16,179
Once a year,Stephen Hawking and his friends
428
00:34:16,763 --> 00:34:19,599
take over some house somewhere,
429
00:34:20,308 --> 00:34:23,144
where we can exchange ideas,
where we can have fun,
430
00:34:23,227 --> 00:34:25,229
where we can go off into
the mountains and have a hike.
431
00:34:25,313 --> 00:34:26,355
Stephen arrived.
432
00:34:26,522 --> 00:34:28,316
Stephen's here, great.
- So if you go
433
00:34:28,566 --> 00:34:29,650
all the way that way,
434
00:34:29,734 --> 00:34:30,735
you can say hello to him.
- Okay.
435
00:34:33,029 --> 00:34:37,909
Stephen, Sasha, Malcolm and I found
a chink in the armor
436
00:34:38,493 --> 00:34:40,578
of, uh... more than a chink,
437
00:34:40,661 --> 00:34:44,707
a huge gap in the armor
of the information paradox.
438
00:34:44,791 --> 00:34:47,126
Why don't we use the blackboard in there.
- All right.
439
00:34:47,210 --> 00:34:48,669
The old story was...
440
00:34:50,254 --> 00:34:53,925
there just wasn't any way thata black hole could store information,
441
00:34:54,008 --> 00:34:55,676
it was just a hole in space.
442
00:34:57,762 --> 00:34:59,597
What we've discoveredis that the horizon
443
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,016
does have some propertiesthat encode information.
444
00:35:03,559 --> 00:35:07,105
Namely, the supertranslation
and the superrotation degrees of freedom,
445
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what we now call the "soft hair"
446
00:35:08,981 --> 00:35:10,775
Okay.
- Uh oh, put it round.
447
00:35:12,693 --> 00:35:17,698
The hair is spreadaround the horizon of the black hole.
448
00:35:18,616 --> 00:35:20,785
When you throw
something into the black hole
449
00:35:21,285 --> 00:35:22,578
you change its hairdo.
450
00:35:22,870 --> 00:35:25,957
So you start like this, you throw
something in, it goes like that.
451
00:35:27,583 --> 00:35:32,088
We discovered there's a recordof what fell into the black hole.
452
00:35:34,340 --> 00:35:37,969
Some informationis definitely transferred.
453
00:35:41,389 --> 00:35:43,683
We don't know yet if all of it is.
454
00:35:45,810 --> 00:35:49,856
And that's really what we are currently
trying hard to investigate
455
00:35:49,939 --> 00:35:50,857
It looks like this.
- Yeah.
456
00:35:50,940 --> 00:35:53,067
It only contains, um, with two derivatives
457
00:35:53,151 --> 00:35:55,778
in epsilon, so that'll vanish.
- Okay.
458
00:35:55,903 --> 00:35:59,073
We need to see if this soft hair
and these soft particles
459
00:35:59,157 --> 00:36:01,159
can encode
all the information in a black hole.
460
00:36:01,242 --> 00:36:02,827
Okay, so we're not worried
about that term.
461
00:36:02,910 --> 00:36:04,704
No.
- Did you look at that term, too?
462
00:36:05,204 --> 00:36:06,455
There's a formula,
463
00:36:07,081 --> 00:36:10,835
by Bekenstein and Hawkingin the early '70s
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00:36:11,669 --> 00:36:14,255
for exactly how many
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00:36:15,214 --> 00:36:18,843
gigabytes of information
can be stored in a black hole.
466
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:24,515
So the very first test,
which we have not yet passed,
467
00:36:25,933 --> 00:36:29,729
is counting the informationusing the soft hair
468
00:36:30,313 --> 00:36:35,109
and showing that it givesexactly the right answer.
469
00:36:38,487 --> 00:36:41,199
If we can get
the central charge to be 12J,
470
00:36:41,741 --> 00:36:43,201
information is not lost.
471
00:36:43,743 --> 00:36:45,203
Information is conserved,
472
00:36:45,453 --> 00:36:46,996
and that we'll be able to trace
this information
473
00:36:47,079 --> 00:36:48,873
by looking at the horizon.
474
00:36:49,790 --> 00:36:52,418
And we've spent about
three months getting zero,
475
00:36:52,501 --> 00:36:54,295
then another three months
getting infinity,
476
00:36:54,503 --> 00:36:56,214
and the last few weeks, Malcolm
477
00:36:56,714 --> 00:36:59,300
thought he got 12 and now we think
that's actually wrong again.
478
00:37:00,176 --> 00:37:02,303
As of today, we have 12,
479
00:37:02,386 --> 00:37:05,223
but with a dubious step.
480
00:37:06,057 --> 00:37:08,517
Are you sayingthat that integration by parts
481
00:37:08,601 --> 00:37:10,645
was done to get this last formula?
482
00:37:12,104 --> 00:37:13,105
I have a feeling.
483
00:37:13,898 --> 00:37:17,818
Yeah, because there's no terms
with two derivatives on zeta.
484
00:37:18,527 --> 00:37:21,405
Well, the whole point was to get rid
of two derivative terms on zeta.
485
00:37:22,990 --> 00:37:24,533
But maybe they're really there.
486
00:37:27,078 --> 00:37:31,791
What-- Um, let's see, uh, okay.
487
00:37:32,208 --> 00:37:35,670
So I think we need to think
a little more about this. Um...
488
00:37:38,881 --> 00:37:40,883
Oh, Stephen's here. Saved!
489
00:37:43,135 --> 00:37:44,887
Hello, Stephen!
- Hi, Stephen.
490
00:37:44,971 --> 00:37:45,805
Hello, Stephen.
491
00:37:46,138 --> 00:37:49,892
Why don't we give Stephen
the executive summary.
492
00:37:50,142 --> 00:37:51,477
Assuming everything is right.
493
00:37:51,894 --> 00:37:53,354
To be confirmed.
- No, no,
494
00:37:53,437 --> 00:37:54,981
you never assume everything is right.
495
00:37:56,857 --> 00:37:59,485
To be checked, everything to be checked.
- Yeah. Everything to be checked.
496
00:38:00,027 --> 00:38:03,990
You know, it's the usual roller coaster,
a few minutes ago we were very excited
497
00:38:04,073 --> 00:38:08,411
because the central term
came out on the nose
498
00:38:08,786 --> 00:38:14,750
exactly what it needs to be
to get the, uh, area law,
499
00:38:15,334 --> 00:38:19,463
then we realized we...
we might have missed some terms.
500
00:38:23,676 --> 00:38:25,428
Something good seems to be happening.
501
00:38:27,805 --> 00:38:29,348
But we have our work cut out.
502
00:38:39,525 --> 00:38:41,152
There's something else
we might have forgotten.
503
00:38:41,652 --> 00:38:42,528
What?
504
00:38:42,987 --> 00:38:45,364
There was a question
of an F plus minus term.
505
00:38:46,449 --> 00:38:48,159
Yeah, I've been bothered by that.
506
00:38:48,451 --> 00:38:51,996
So, it could be the F plus minus
term takes this away.
507
00:38:52,788 --> 00:38:55,666
Well, what are we doing
about that, because...
508
00:38:55,958 --> 00:39:00,713
Well I thought I didn't produce anything
with three derivatives of epsilon,
509
00:39:01,213 --> 00:39:02,631
but...
- We better check that.
510
00:39:05,843 --> 00:39:07,678
There's a number we're after.
511
00:39:08,679 --> 00:39:10,306
12 times the angular momentum.
512
00:39:11,849 --> 00:39:14,226
So I think that is...
- Or divergence of--
513
00:39:14,393 --> 00:39:17,563
It's so hard to get the number,it's really hard to get the number.
514
00:39:18,689 --> 00:39:21,359
If you do get the number...
515
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:23,194
Up here.
516
00:39:23,277 --> 00:39:26,864
...that will tell you that blackholes have the capacity to store...
517
00:39:28,282 --> 00:39:30,493
...all the informationthat might have been lost...
518
00:39:30,576 --> 00:39:32,411
I think there's a path in there somewhere.
519
00:39:32,870 --> 00:39:36,082
A giant step towards solvingthe information paradox.
520
00:39:36,582 --> 00:39:39,377
And Malcolm got from
that to this by integrating by parts.
521
00:39:40,461 --> 00:39:42,004
Illegally.
- Yes.
522
00:39:42,088 --> 00:39:45,299
But, by using divergence
of a three-form...
523
00:39:45,383 --> 00:39:48,177
You can do the same thing.
- You can get to this exact equation
524
00:39:48,260 --> 00:39:51,013
and you always have room for...
- How many conformal
525
00:39:51,097 --> 00:39:53,599
killing vectors on the two sphere?
526
00:39:54,392 --> 00:39:55,935
Three!
- An infinite number?
527
00:39:56,769 --> 00:39:57,895
Six!
528
00:39:59,063 --> 00:40:01,982
Stephen's a very interesting person
to work with because...
529
00:40:02,691 --> 00:40:06,570
I guess he's a man of few words,
so everything he says is really important.
530
00:40:06,654 --> 00:40:10,491
Globally well-defined
strict killing vectors,
531
00:40:10,574 --> 00:40:13,911
there are three of them.
Globally well-defined...
532
00:40:14,703 --> 00:40:16,705
He'll ask somethingwhich might at first sight
533
00:40:16,997 --> 00:40:19,041
seem to be he's just clarifying something,
534
00:40:19,500 --> 00:40:21,127
and actually it turns out to be
535
00:40:21,544 --> 00:40:23,879
he's got a slightly different idea or...
536
00:40:24,839 --> 00:40:27,174
he just gives a bit
of his insight or intuition.
537
00:40:28,092 --> 00:40:30,928
Which might then sort of confuse everybody
538
00:40:31,011 --> 00:40:32,972
and then we realizeactually it's really important.
539
00:40:33,055 --> 00:40:34,765
So we've been, uh...
540
00:40:35,599 --> 00:40:38,978
we're religiously abiding
by your instructions to...
541
00:40:41,188 --> 00:40:43,232
forget about infinity.
542
00:40:43,774 --> 00:40:47,445
I was laying some groundwork first,
543
00:40:47,778 --> 00:40:49,280
sort of circling the mountain,
544
00:40:49,363 --> 00:40:52,324
trying to figure out
which was the best route to the top.
545
00:40:52,908 --> 00:40:57,621
And Stephen was like,
"okay, we're taking this one now."
546
00:41:00,541 --> 00:41:01,876
He's very daring.
547
00:41:03,335 --> 00:41:06,297
He doesn't want to spend a lot of time
548
00:41:06,547 --> 00:41:10,050
exploring all the subcases
and different possibilities.
549
00:41:10,759 --> 00:41:13,095
He wants to go for the jugular.
550
00:41:14,096 --> 00:41:16,765
Would diffeomorphism
give all the entropy?
551
00:41:16,849 --> 00:41:18,726
Which diffeomorphisms
give you the entropy?
552
00:41:20,686 --> 00:41:22,771
Ah, so the question is
what are the diffeomorphisms...
553
00:41:22,855 --> 00:41:25,274
This problem is probablytoo hard to do on your own,
554
00:41:25,357 --> 00:41:28,152
but different people think
about things in different ways
555
00:41:28,652 --> 00:41:32,490
and, well, each brings
their own little bit of it
556
00:41:32,573 --> 00:41:33,866
to the table.
557
00:41:33,949 --> 00:41:37,161
It's basically
E to the i-n-phi around the...
558
00:41:38,245 --> 00:41:41,874
it's basically...
- E to the i-n-phi but somehow...
559
00:41:42,082 --> 00:41:43,459
I tend to race
560
00:41:44,001 --> 00:41:46,712
to the end and then tryto fill in the spaces...
561
00:41:46,795 --> 00:41:47,671
Really?
562
00:41:47,922 --> 00:41:52,259
...which is a methodology which
is particularly prone to making errors
563
00:41:52,343 --> 00:41:55,262
because you've already decidedwhat answer you want.
564
00:41:58,098 --> 00:42:00,559
Whereas Malcolmwould be more likely to just
565
00:42:01,268 --> 00:42:04,522
start from the beginningand systematically
566
00:42:05,022 --> 00:42:07,816
work through it,which has the other problem
567
00:42:07,900 --> 00:42:09,485
that if you're not headingin the right direction,
568
00:42:09,568 --> 00:42:10,653
you'll never get there.
569
00:42:11,987 --> 00:42:13,948
So I think we compliment each other well.
570
00:42:16,408 --> 00:42:19,578
Sasha has been a fantastic addition.
571
00:42:20,371 --> 00:42:23,415
She started as Malcolm's graduate student,
572
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:29,755
and she went from zero to sixtyin a rather spectacular way.
573
00:42:33,133 --> 00:42:37,137
We had it once and it went away,
and we got it again about 10 days ago,
574
00:42:37,596 --> 00:42:38,889
but it's gone away again.
575
00:42:42,768 --> 00:42:44,019
We're on the right track,
576
00:42:45,521 --> 00:42:48,065
but it's turning outto be monstrously complicated.
577
00:42:48,315 --> 00:42:49,275
I think let's go this way.
578
00:42:49,358 --> 00:42:50,317
I think go that way.
579
00:42:50,401 --> 00:42:51,569
We should've brought a helicopter.
580
00:42:52,194 --> 00:42:53,696
Well do you want to go down that way?
581
00:42:53,779 --> 00:42:55,531
This one, you mean?
- No.
582
00:43:11,964 --> 00:43:16,885
This was a really convoluted international
shipment because of what went on in Chile.
583
00:43:17,511 --> 00:43:19,555
You know this is important data, right?
- Yes.
584
00:43:20,014 --> 00:43:24,602
I don't like to hear the word convoluted
in the same sentence as "your data."
585
00:43:24,977 --> 00:43:26,604
The implement of destruction.
586
00:43:27,605 --> 00:43:29,732
This is freshly delivered data.
587
00:43:32,943 --> 00:43:34,486
All the way from Chile,
588
00:43:34,612 --> 00:43:37,406
recorder three, slot two, set two.
589
00:43:38,574 --> 00:43:40,743
Nicely labeled. Mm-hmm.
- Vincent?
590
00:43:40,993 --> 00:43:44,413
Photons from Chile. Frozen.
591
00:43:45,831 --> 00:43:49,126
When we get the data
from these different telescopes,
592
00:43:49,627 --> 00:43:52,921
the amount of data is immense.
593
00:43:53,047 --> 00:43:55,591
We really have to measure
every single wave,
594
00:43:55,674 --> 00:43:57,426
every single trough and crest
595
00:43:57,593 --> 00:43:59,303
of the waves
as they come to the telescope.
596
00:44:01,513 --> 00:44:03,849
We have to record this faithfully
597
00:44:03,932 --> 00:44:06,810
and then match up each wave front
598
00:44:06,894 --> 00:44:09,647
with the corresponding onefrom another telescope
599
00:44:09,730 --> 00:44:11,023
halfway across the earth.
600
00:44:11,106 --> 00:44:12,941
Okay, the latest addition from ALMA.
601
00:44:13,692 --> 00:44:14,777
What else do we have here?
602
00:44:14,860 --> 00:44:18,072
We are generating about
one and a half petabytes of data
603
00:44:18,155 --> 00:44:19,406
per night of observation.
604
00:44:20,574 --> 00:44:22,910
Okay.
- Yeah, once we cleared...
605
00:44:22,993 --> 00:44:26,830
By far the largest amount of data
per night of observing
606
00:44:27,081 --> 00:44:30,292
than any physics experiment
in the history of science.
607
00:44:30,751 --> 00:44:32,127
I want to see...
608
00:44:32,628 --> 00:44:34,421
Okay, so here's a whole ALMA set
609
00:44:35,673 --> 00:44:37,591
We bring all the data back,
610
00:44:37,758 --> 00:44:40,260
all these disk drives to a super computer,
611
00:44:40,594 --> 00:44:43,681
one is at the MITHaystack Observatory,
612
00:44:44,556 --> 00:44:47,476
and the other is at the Max Planck
Institute for Radio Astronomy
613
00:44:47,601 --> 00:44:50,521
in Bonn, Germany.
Then between these two sites,
614
00:44:50,854 --> 00:44:53,148
we process and handle all of the data.
615
00:44:53,232 --> 00:44:55,734
This is how you make
an earth-size telescope.
616
00:44:55,984 --> 00:44:57,986
It's like a map of the entire globe.
617
00:44:58,237 --> 00:45:02,074
So up here we have
modules that were recorded in Mexico,
618
00:45:02,282 --> 00:45:05,452
uh, these are also from Mexico,
this is from Arizona,
619
00:45:05,702 --> 00:45:07,955
uh, this is from Spain over here,
620
00:45:08,664 --> 00:45:10,332
uh, this is from Hawaii.
621
00:45:10,916 --> 00:45:13,502
We cannot do any of the processing
from the South Pole.
622
00:45:13,585 --> 00:45:15,671
The South Pole station is closed now.
623
00:45:16,672 --> 00:45:18,382
Nothing can land or take off.
624
00:45:19,675 --> 00:45:22,845
All the data'sin the deep freeze until October.
625
00:45:25,180 --> 00:45:27,224
This is where all the data come together
626
00:45:27,641 --> 00:45:29,852
and we get the final data products.
627
00:45:30,477 --> 00:45:34,273
So, it's happening. It's hard to believe
after so long, but it's happening.
628
00:45:34,815 --> 00:45:38,694
Drop it for now and let's try,
let's just put the baseline in.
629
00:45:41,655 --> 00:45:43,407
Once you correct the manual phase cals...
630
00:45:44,366 --> 00:45:45,576
then this will clean up...
631
00:45:47,244 --> 00:45:51,248
and even the signal-to-noise ratio
will go up and the amplitude will go up.
632
00:45:52,332 --> 00:45:54,126
That is really amazing.
633
00:45:55,335 --> 00:45:57,671
We're getting the kind of sensitivities
634
00:45:57,838 --> 00:46:02,301
and the resolution that we have been after
for about a decade.
635
00:46:04,803 --> 00:46:06,930
For me, personally,
636
00:46:07,973 --> 00:46:11,685
this is a moment of great anxiety.
637
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,815
We've worked for a long time
for this result.
638
00:46:17,524 --> 00:46:21,778
And we don't know even now what we have.
639
00:49:10,530 --> 00:49:12,783
Black holes are out of reach.
640
00:49:16,453 --> 00:49:19,539
We do not knowif the equations we're using
641
00:49:19,748 --> 00:49:21,750
actually describes a black hole.
642
00:49:23,168 --> 00:49:27,631
That's what we cannot directly test,
that's-that's the dilemma we're in.
643
00:49:32,302 --> 00:49:34,137
In my laboratory,
644
00:49:34,221 --> 00:49:37,724
I have a model that mimicscertain features of black holes.
645
00:49:40,143 --> 00:49:43,271
Of course it is not a real black hole,
it would be pretty dangerous.
646
00:49:46,858 --> 00:49:50,153
What we really have isa gigantic pool of water.
647
00:49:51,780 --> 00:49:55,033
You get this nice vortexforming right in the center.
648
00:49:57,411 --> 00:50:02,207
For small fluctuations on the surfaceit should look like a rotating black hole.
649
00:50:10,507 --> 00:50:13,760
There is physics associatedto the horizon:
650
00:50:15,303 --> 00:50:16,263
light bending,
651
00:50:16,805 --> 00:50:18,056
Hawking radiation,
652
00:50:18,473 --> 00:50:19,433
superradiance.
653
00:50:21,810 --> 00:50:24,104
And these are the kindsof effects we can simulate.
654
00:50:24,604 --> 00:50:26,940
All the effects that happen outsidethe event horizon.
655
00:50:31,570 --> 00:50:35,198
And at the end, you see an effectwhich has been predicted for many years
656
00:50:35,282 --> 00:50:37,534
without any experimental confirmation.
657
00:50:40,203 --> 00:50:41,455
That's real physics.
658
00:50:41,997 --> 00:50:43,331
It has been detected.
659
00:50:48,587 --> 00:50:52,340
There is a limit to what we know
about black hole now,
660
00:50:52,716 --> 00:50:53,842
but I'm a scientist,
661
00:50:54,843 --> 00:50:57,137
this is the best situation you can be in.
662
00:51:01,099 --> 00:51:03,477
We have this universe in a Petri dish.
663
00:51:05,187 --> 00:51:09,149
And it's holding fantastic new insights
664
00:51:09,357 --> 00:51:11,109
waiting to be discovered.
665
00:51:25,415 --> 00:51:26,792
So zeta minus
666
00:51:27,167 --> 00:51:28,418
zeta-tilda-Y,
667
00:51:28,710 --> 00:51:33,673
and this contains an epsilon double prime,
that contains an epsilon prime.
668
00:51:33,965 --> 00:51:35,926
So that will go likeone over W plus.
669
00:51:36,009 --> 00:51:38,762
This goes one over W plus,
670
00:51:40,847 --> 00:51:43,225
which means you got to compute
this thing to W plus,
671
00:51:43,308 --> 00:51:45,018
you're sure there's not something else?
672
00:51:45,977 --> 00:51:47,270
No it doesn't.
673
00:51:47,354 --> 00:51:51,191
No, it doesn't, because it's only the one
over W plus term that can contribute.
674
00:51:54,402 --> 00:51:55,237
Right.
675
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:56,947
We need that one over W plus.
676
00:51:57,030 --> 00:51:58,990
So you have to
compute this to order W plus.
677
00:51:59,366 --> 00:52:00,242
No.
678
00:52:00,325 --> 00:52:03,286
No, because you want
one over W plus in the integrand.
679
00:52:03,787 --> 00:52:04,913
Oh right.
680
00:52:04,996 --> 00:52:06,998
Because the range of W plus is zero.
681
00:52:07,082 --> 00:52:10,377
So if we don't have one
over W plus there, we get zero.
682
00:52:13,797 --> 00:52:15,799
We didn't understand this in Brinsop.
683
00:52:15,882 --> 00:52:17,551
No, I guess we did not
understand that.
684
00:52:21,471 --> 00:52:23,849
We thought at Brinsop that
things were relatively simple,
685
00:52:24,266 --> 00:52:26,142
we didn't have to think about so much,
686
00:52:26,309 --> 00:52:29,354
But since then, we've discovered
all kinds of other things
687
00:52:29,437 --> 00:52:31,314
which do contribute
and complicate matters.
688
00:52:32,065 --> 00:52:35,402
In Brinsop, we thought
we could do it by hand.
689
00:52:36,361 --> 00:52:38,572
You know, ten pages.
690
00:52:42,284 --> 00:52:44,995
Turns out to be among the most
691
00:52:46,371 --> 00:52:50,333
long calculations
that any of us has done.
692
00:52:50,542 --> 00:52:52,878
That's actually spot on.
693
00:52:57,048 --> 00:52:58,550
One thousand and fifty terms.
694
00:52:58,633 --> 00:53:04,180
1050 terms? You can't do,
you cannot add 1050 terms
695
00:53:04,681 --> 00:53:06,433
without making a single mistake.
696
00:53:07,392 --> 00:53:08,393
Or I can't.
697
00:53:08,852 --> 00:53:10,520
I think that's even beyond Malcolm.
698
00:53:10,604 --> 00:53:12,731
I think I can do
about half of that, but...
699
00:53:14,733 --> 00:53:16,484
So a month ago,
700
00:53:17,152 --> 00:53:21,156
we realized we were going to
have to use computers.
701
00:53:23,241 --> 00:53:26,578
Essentially adding up
many thousands of terms;
702
00:53:26,912 --> 00:53:31,499
if they all add up to exactly 12J,
703
00:53:31,583 --> 00:53:34,169
it will mean the hair
that's on the black hole
704
00:53:34,794 --> 00:53:38,673
is enough to completely reconstruct
how it was made.
705
00:53:39,215 --> 00:53:41,635
That's a long way towards solving
the information paradox.
706
00:53:42,761 --> 00:53:44,596
We haven't seen that
happening so far.
707
00:53:45,472 --> 00:53:49,476
Which either means that we-- there's
a mistake in our computer program,
708
00:53:49,559 --> 00:53:50,936
a mistake in our input,
709
00:53:51,353 --> 00:53:54,689
or a mistake in our conceptual
analysis of the problem.
710
00:53:56,066 --> 00:53:59,486
And we've been up and down
in our level of optimism.
711
00:54:00,195 --> 00:54:03,365
We must believe that actually,
it's going to work out properly
712
00:54:03,448 --> 00:54:04,866
for the very simple reason
713
00:54:04,950 --> 00:54:08,495
that we would not be putting this much
effort into it if we didn't believe that.
714
00:54:10,997 --> 00:54:13,917
We are putting the effort in.
- We are putting the effort in, yeah.
715
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,212
And the reason we're doing that is
because we believe it.
716
00:54:18,713 --> 00:54:20,465
If we didn't believe it
we probably would have...
717
00:54:22,926 --> 00:54:24,803
Given up months ago.
- been a bit more discouraged.
718
00:54:26,805 --> 00:54:27,889
I'm optimistic.
719
00:54:30,350 --> 00:54:32,185
But I think we're missing
something quite--
720
00:54:33,311 --> 00:54:34,938
we're missing a term or something.
721
00:54:36,898 --> 00:54:37,816
Or an idea.
722
00:54:37,899 --> 00:54:41,987
Or an idea or something. We haven't just
not added things up correctly.
723
00:54:45,156 --> 00:54:50,245
The information paradox saysthat because of black holes,
724
00:54:50,412 --> 00:54:51,538
the universe
725
00:54:52,163 --> 00:54:53,999
can't be described
726
00:54:54,708 --> 00:54:57,502
exactly by physical laws.
727
00:55:00,171 --> 00:55:02,215
I'm putting my money on an idea that
728
00:55:02,716 --> 00:55:06,302
there are physical laws
and that we can figure out what they are.
729
00:55:08,763 --> 00:55:10,724
But it's not over yet.
730
00:55:23,403 --> 00:55:26,781
I think it isinteresting when observations
731
00:55:27,032 --> 00:55:29,200
don't conform to
732
00:55:29,367 --> 00:55:32,996
our standard picture of how things behave.
733
00:55:33,163 --> 00:55:36,416
And that's when people start to look for
734
00:55:36,666 --> 00:55:38,543
more exotic explanations.
735
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,631
And that's what happenedwith the black hole story.
736
00:55:46,509 --> 00:55:49,095
Black holes were initially very
737
00:55:49,345 --> 00:55:53,183
esoteric, mathematical,
very hard to accept,
738
00:55:53,850 --> 00:55:56,644
and yet increasingly over time,
739
00:55:56,728 --> 00:55:59,731
there were observationsthat didn't make sense.
740
00:56:01,441 --> 00:56:04,652
Black holes were the best explanationfor what was observed.
741
00:56:05,987 --> 00:56:09,240
What was still quite controversial
were the supermassive black holes,
742
00:56:09,324 --> 00:56:12,243
the ones that were a million to a billion
times the mass of the sun.
743
00:56:15,413 --> 00:56:18,374
Maybe all galaxies harbor supermassiveblack holes at their cores.
744
00:56:19,334 --> 00:56:21,086
Even our own galaxy.
745
00:56:22,128 --> 00:56:24,005
That was pretty controversial,
746
00:56:24,714 --> 00:56:28,802
and that is certainly the idea
that I got very interested in.
747
00:56:31,346 --> 00:56:33,473
And I had this techniquethat I was working on,
748
00:56:33,556 --> 00:56:35,850
my group and then the group in Germany,
749
00:56:36,017 --> 00:56:39,646
that in principle could figure it out.
750
00:56:41,606 --> 00:56:44,943
And this was just as the Keck Observatorywas opening up in Hawaii.
751
00:56:48,488 --> 00:56:51,032
It's kind of amazingthat a very big telescope
752
00:56:51,116 --> 00:56:53,368
let us monkey around withthe instrumentation at all.
753
00:56:56,579 --> 00:56:57,413
And yet it worked.
754
00:56:58,081 --> 00:56:59,624
All of a sudden you couldsee the center of the galaxy,
755
00:56:59,707 --> 00:57:01,334
these stars at the center of the galaxy.
756
00:57:05,421 --> 00:57:08,716
And if there's a black hole there that hasa few million times the mass of sun,
757
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,386
these things are gonna move
really, really fast.
758
00:57:13,346 --> 00:57:15,223
โ95 was our first measurement,
759
00:57:15,515 --> 00:57:19,352
โ96, we saw a second picture,and oh my goodness!
760
00:57:20,979 --> 00:57:23,648
Those things were absolutelynot in the same place.
761
00:57:25,233 --> 00:57:26,985
These things were hauling!
762
00:57:28,486 --> 00:57:31,239
โ98, โ99, it was already clear
763
00:57:31,322 --> 00:57:33,741
that the ones that were really close,were starting to curve.
764
00:57:36,327 --> 00:57:38,788
The curvature gives you a directionto the black hole.
765
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,250
And we had three stars that were curving,so it was like three arrows
766
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,796
and they all intersected
at the same place.
767
00:57:50,675 --> 00:57:52,927
You need something very massive
768
00:57:53,303 --> 00:57:56,139
to drive that kind of short-period orbit.
769
00:58:01,102 --> 00:58:06,149
It's hard to conceive ofanything else at its center
770
00:58:06,232 --> 00:58:09,110
other than a supermassive black hole.
771
00:58:13,031 --> 00:58:15,033
We're on our way in.
772
00:58:17,952 --> 00:58:19,454
You can just taste it.
773
00:58:30,798 --> 00:58:31,925
345
774
00:58:32,008 --> 00:58:33,968
No, I think Kazu told me--
775
00:58:34,052 --> 00:58:36,638
Yeah, but Kazu told me
to look at 120 yesterday
776
00:58:36,721 --> 00:58:38,348
and that's why that we
were looking at that one.
777
00:58:38,431 --> 00:58:40,141
So this is 3C345?
778
00:58:40,225 --> 00:58:41,226
Yeah.
- Okay.
779
00:58:41,309 --> 00:58:43,645
The fact that we're aiming
so high with the EHT
780
00:58:43,728 --> 00:58:46,231
to see something you know
no one's ever seen before means
781
00:58:46,356 --> 00:58:49,192
we have to develop an entirely
new set of tools.
782
00:58:49,609 --> 00:58:51,945
It's a lot easier to start
with a big field of view...
783
00:58:52,111 --> 00:58:54,656
We have to reconstruct an imagewith sufficient fidelity
784
00:58:54,739 --> 00:58:56,574
that we can trust what we're seeing.
785
00:58:56,658 --> 00:58:58,284
...small and then you get
some weird structuring on there.
786
00:58:58,660 --> 00:59:02,205
Yeah, anyway, I don't have it loaded on
linear scale with them all in the same
787
00:59:02,288 --> 00:59:05,083
When we take a picture
on our camera, right,
788
00:59:05,166 --> 00:59:08,461
you believe that picture
is exactly reality, right?
789
00:59:08,545 --> 00:59:10,755
You actually saw that with your own eyes
790
00:59:10,838 --> 00:59:12,632
and you can see, oh, okay, that matches.
791
00:59:12,799 --> 00:59:16,302
When we take a picture of a black hole
with the Event Horizon Telescope,
792
00:59:16,386 --> 00:59:17,971
we don't get to see that,
793
00:59:18,054 --> 00:59:20,098
we don't know if the picture we generate
794
00:59:20,181 --> 00:59:21,849
is actually what the
black hole looks like.
795
00:59:22,934 --> 00:59:25,144
How do we evaluate what's the true image?
796
00:59:26,187 --> 00:59:27,188
So which is right?
797
00:59:27,730 --> 00:59:28,856
What I'm saying is in general...
798
00:59:29,023 --> 00:59:32,360
which is right?
You know, people publish...
799
00:59:32,485 --> 00:59:35,196
One way we approach the problemis by separating the teams
800
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,365
into different groupsthat can't talk to each other.
801
00:59:38,408 --> 00:59:41,286
We generate data fromlots of different kinds of images,
802
00:59:41,661 --> 00:59:44,872
realistic data like we would getfrom the Event Horizon Telescope,
803
00:59:45,248 --> 00:59:48,167
then release to the communitybut without the true image
804
00:59:48,710 --> 00:59:52,130
and we say, do your best job,get your best image from this data.
805
00:59:52,547 --> 00:59:56,718
What happens in Team One room
stays in Team One room, right?
806
00:59:57,385 --> 00:59:59,554
If I see another team's image,
807
00:59:59,637 --> 01:00:02,640
I might start trying to push
my imaging algorithms,
808
01:00:02,724 --> 01:00:05,810
even subconsciously, in a direction
that would favor that kind of image.
809
01:00:05,893 --> 01:00:07,645
Look at these amplitude error bars
810
01:00:08,855 --> 01:00:13,568
We want to have many rounds ofimaging and refining that imaging process
811
01:00:14,569 --> 01:00:17,196
before we actually compare the images
812
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,074
You look at all these different things
with the same data,
813
01:00:20,366 --> 01:00:21,951
it's a cage match of love...
814
01:00:22,076 --> 01:00:25,913
We should be able to cross-compare thedifferent algorithms between the teams.
815
01:00:26,205 --> 01:00:28,207
And if we start getting
convergence on those,
816
01:00:28,499 --> 01:00:32,253
then we'll know that we're in a good
position to do the same for Sag-A- and M87
817
01:00:32,337 --> 01:00:35,006
And here is
low closure amplitude.
818
01:00:35,340 --> 01:00:37,091
There's a really big difference.
819
01:00:37,258 --> 01:00:38,593
It is three days apart.
820
01:00:39,093 --> 01:00:41,095
Yeah, but the source
has not changed that much,
821
01:00:41,721 --> 01:00:43,222
and you cannot change the speed of light.
822
01:00:44,098 --> 01:00:49,937
But you know, orange and blue, that's
exactly same day, exactly same time
823
01:00:50,396 --> 01:00:54,442
In Team Two,I would say we had a hard time.
824
01:00:55,234 --> 01:00:59,322
My feeling is that data are not yet ready,
825
01:01:00,031 --> 01:01:02,075
not yet well-calibrated
826
01:01:02,617 --> 01:01:03,951
for imaging.
827
01:01:04,035 --> 01:01:06,788
So there is still work to be done.
828
01:01:15,171 --> 01:01:17,340
I just happened to be looking
at the Guardian website
829
01:01:17,757 --> 01:01:21,719
at around midnight
on the evening of the 13th,
830
01:01:22,387 --> 01:01:23,680
and they announced it.
831
01:01:25,306 --> 01:01:26,182
And that was it.
832
01:01:28,851 --> 01:01:32,689
We had been talkingabout going to see him.
833
01:01:33,773 --> 01:01:35,692
Because we were worried, and because
834
01:01:36,401 --> 01:01:40,488
we knew that the work
would lift his spirits.
835
01:01:42,448 --> 01:01:45,451
We kept saying as soon aswe get somewhere,
836
01:01:45,535 --> 01:01:47,203
we're flying straight back to the UK
837
01:01:47,286 --> 01:01:50,039
to talk to him about itand discuss the next step with him.
838
01:01:50,748 --> 01:01:55,294
It would have made him so happy to realize
that we'd got somewhere with this project.
839
01:01:55,753 --> 01:01:59,340
And unfortunately we just
didn't get there in time.
840
01:02:01,718 --> 01:02:03,803
We all think in different ways,
- Yeah.
841
01:02:03,886 --> 01:02:07,014
and he has his ownunique way of thinking about things
842
01:02:08,224 --> 01:02:12,687
and we're not going to be allowed
to have access to his mind anymore.
843
01:02:13,062 --> 01:02:14,605
That's a huge loss.
844
01:02:15,648 --> 01:02:17,942
There's a special kind of friendship
845
01:02:18,943 --> 01:02:24,657
that grows out of scientific
collaboration and discovery
846
01:02:24,741 --> 01:02:28,786
that's in my experience like no other.
847
01:02:30,079 --> 01:02:34,375
And to have a, you know...
848
01:02:36,002 --> 01:02:37,545
scientific...
849
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,506
a productive scientific interaction
850
01:02:41,841 --> 01:02:46,012
with somebody over many decades
851
01:02:47,096 --> 01:02:48,639
and then lose them,
852
01:02:49,557 --> 01:02:51,142
is very sad.
853
01:02:52,351 --> 01:02:56,606
It's sad in a different way than losing
a relative or, but it's...
854
01:02:57,482 --> 01:02:59,400
it's, uh...
855
01:03:02,153 --> 01:03:05,406
it's a special thing and
it's very sad to lose that.
856
01:03:44,445 --> 01:03:46,572
You can imagineif you were floating
857
01:03:46,864 --> 01:03:48,950
near two black holes that collided.
858
01:03:50,785 --> 01:03:54,914
As they orbit, space time beginsto ring in response.
859
01:03:56,332 --> 01:03:58,251
They're like mallets on a drum.
860
01:03:58,918 --> 01:04:00,545
The drum is space time itself.
861
01:04:01,587 --> 01:04:02,922
It begins to ring.
862
01:04:04,048 --> 01:04:06,884
Gravitational waves, squeezingand stretching space.
863
01:04:09,053 --> 01:04:12,098
In principle, they would pluckyour ear drum,
864
01:04:12,765 --> 01:04:16,143
you would hear themeven though it's empty space.
865
01:04:21,691 --> 01:04:26,320
Gravitational waves are actually likea sound in the medium of space time.
866
01:04:33,536 --> 01:04:37,456
And that was the greatestdiscovery of 2015.
867
01:04:37,999 --> 01:04:42,545
The experiment LIGO recorded the collision
of two completely dark black holes.
868
01:04:47,425 --> 01:04:50,261
The final one-fifth of a second
869
01:04:50,344 --> 01:04:53,639
before the black holes mergedand went quiet as a bigger black hole.
870
01:04:54,807 --> 01:04:56,058
And that's stunning.
871
01:04:56,142 --> 01:04:59,312
The only evidence we've had
for black holes before then
872
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:01,355
was what they do to their environment.
873
01:05:02,064 --> 01:05:03,441
This felt direct.
874
01:05:03,566 --> 01:05:06,277
The first completely direct evidence
875
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,905
of not only the existence of black holes,
876
01:05:09,030 --> 01:05:11,782
but the existence ofa pair of black holes.
877
01:05:12,283 --> 01:05:15,536
This signal comes after travelingover a billion years,
878
01:05:16,037 --> 01:05:17,413
and they record it.
879
01:05:17,496 --> 01:05:20,708
Just a spectacular, spectacular discovery.
880
01:05:22,919 --> 01:05:26,672
My work very much was about
theoretically how black holes collide,
881
01:05:26,756 --> 01:05:28,966
what it would sound like,
simulating those sounds,
882
01:05:29,050 --> 01:05:32,303
and understanding the dynamics
of black hole orbits.
883
01:05:36,766 --> 01:05:40,227
Gravitational waves are so quietby the time that they reach the earth,
884
01:05:41,854 --> 01:05:46,108
the experiments only pick up
the final few orbits.
885
01:05:48,402 --> 01:05:50,821
To dig deeper and hear the approach,
886
01:05:50,988 --> 01:05:55,701
my group has been doing approximationsof the final several minutes.
887
01:05:57,286 --> 01:05:58,829
Listening to the longer run-up,
888
01:05:59,413 --> 01:06:02,667
we can tell if the black holes had a
more interesting dynamic,
889
01:06:02,750 --> 01:06:04,460
if it was a more complicated motion.
890
01:06:06,963 --> 01:06:10,174
So in this case not only are theblack holes different masses,
891
01:06:10,424 --> 01:06:13,511
not only are they ona more complicated orbit,
892
01:06:13,594 --> 01:06:15,012
but they're also spinning.
893
01:06:18,849 --> 01:06:21,852
The system begins to rotate in space
894
01:06:24,105 --> 01:06:25,940
and you can hear it get quieter
895
01:06:26,524 --> 01:06:28,734
as the gravitational wavesare beamed away from you,
896
01:06:28,818 --> 01:06:31,529
and louder as they're beamed to you.
897
01:06:32,363 --> 01:06:34,991
And so these are alldetails we can extract
898
01:06:35,199 --> 01:06:37,493
from the gravitational waves'sound just by listening.
899
01:06:39,787 --> 01:06:41,330
And then they get louder, faster,
900
01:06:42,039 --> 01:06:43,207
right before they merge.
901
01:06:44,834 --> 01:06:46,877
And then it goes quietas one big black hole.
902
01:06:48,921 --> 01:06:50,631
There is a human pleasure
903
01:06:50,965 --> 01:06:55,052
in being able to experience, viscerally,
904
01:06:55,136 --> 01:06:56,804
a recording like that.
905
01:06:57,471 --> 01:07:00,057
In some sense,making black holes more real.
906
01:07:01,892 --> 01:07:04,020
What a remarkable time to be alive:
907
01:07:05,187 --> 01:07:10,026
to actually be on that cusp
of not knowing, and then discovering.
908
01:07:26,876 --> 01:07:29,712
All right guys,
we're gonna release the data.
909
01:07:30,004 --> 01:07:30,838
Whoo!
910
01:07:30,921 --> 01:07:32,840
Big moment, let's do it then.
911
01:07:33,340 --> 01:07:37,470
Okay, I'm including everybody in the
entire collaboration on this note.
912
01:07:38,679 --> 01:07:43,267
The end goal is to have this snapshot
of reality: how a black hole really looks.
913
01:07:44,351 --> 01:07:48,564
Black holes at the center of galaxiesare bathed in this hot glowing plasma,
914
01:07:48,731 --> 01:07:50,941
and so there's light comingfrom behind the black hole
915
01:07:51,025 --> 01:07:52,943
and in front of it and every which way.
916
01:07:53,736 --> 01:07:55,613
They curve their spacetime so much
917
01:07:55,696 --> 01:07:57,907
that even light from behind the black hole
918
01:07:57,990 --> 01:08:00,910
can be bent around themto reach the observer.
919
01:08:04,497 --> 01:08:05,331
You can imagine
920
01:08:05,414 --> 01:08:08,459
some of the photons would befar enough away they'd just come to you,
921
01:08:08,876 --> 01:08:12,421
some of them would be close to the horizonand they get bent inward,
922
01:08:13,214 --> 01:08:16,592
and some of them would be too closeand they'd fall into the black hole.
923
01:08:18,302 --> 01:08:21,097
And so the shadow of the black holeis this circular area
924
01:08:21,180 --> 01:08:22,515
of diminished brightness
925
01:08:22,723 --> 01:08:24,225
with this bright ring around it.
926
01:08:25,434 --> 01:08:28,896
It's really a special thing thatthere's such a concrete prediction
927
01:08:28,979 --> 01:08:30,523
for something that no one's ever seen.
928
01:08:31,524 --> 01:08:34,610
You know, if you're making an
image, you have to come in the other room,
929
01:08:34,693 --> 01:08:36,362
Okay.
- So we all start at the same time.
930
01:08:36,445 --> 01:08:38,364
Team One Imagers!
931
01:08:38,906 --> 01:08:40,950
Okay, which day has the best coverage
by the way?
932
01:08:41,033 --> 01:08:42,827
I'm doing 3601.
933
01:08:42,910 --> 01:08:44,870
I was going to do 3601 for now.
- Same.
934
01:08:45,079 --> 01:08:46,455
Okay, are we ready?
935
01:08:46,539 --> 01:08:47,748
I'm giddy.
936
01:08:47,832 --> 01:08:50,417
Oh, my God, wait, should we close
the door, are we ready?
937
01:08:50,501 --> 01:08:52,920
Wait, what is happening?
938
01:08:53,337 --> 01:08:54,755
We're trying to make
an image right now!
939
01:08:54,839 --> 01:08:57,883
Can we just pace things a little bit?
940
01:08:58,634 --> 01:09:00,261
Well no, first of all.
941
01:09:00,970 --> 01:09:02,096
Shep, close the door!
942
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:03,514
Oh, my God!
943
01:09:03,889 --> 01:09:05,933
Can we start Michael?!
You don't have to start...
944
01:09:06,016 --> 01:09:07,184
Let's wait for Michael
945
01:09:07,518 --> 01:09:09,854
Can we just go on
our little trajectories
946
01:09:09,937 --> 01:09:11,897
and you know meet up in 20 minutes?
947
01:09:12,982 --> 01:09:13,816
No.
948
01:09:13,899 --> 01:09:16,318
I just think it's like a big moment,
949
01:09:16,485 --> 01:09:20,114
and I think for me, I'm just saying, like,
950
01:09:20,948 --> 01:09:23,242
I think it'd be fun for us all
to do the first one together,
951
01:09:23,325 --> 01:09:27,663
see that shit, and then go off in our
own little ways and fix it.
952
01:09:27,830 --> 01:09:31,000
I think it's just so exciting that you--
do you want to do it alone?
953
01:09:31,083 --> 01:09:34,670
I'd like to see it all together so
we can kind of get some idea of the data.
954
01:09:34,795 --> 01:09:35,629
Are we ready?
955
01:09:35,713 --> 01:09:36,922
Ready.
956
01:09:37,006 --> 01:09:38,674
It's not gonna work at all!
957
01:09:38,757 --> 01:09:40,634
Enhance, enhance, enhance!
958
01:09:41,135 --> 01:09:41,969
Ready?
959
01:09:42,344 --> 01:09:43,179
Set.
960
01:09:43,762 --> 01:09:44,597
Go!
961
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:47,099
Oh, my God!
Oh, my God we pressed go!
962
01:09:48,809 --> 01:09:50,269
It's just a waffle.
963
01:09:51,604 --> 01:09:54,815
Ah! That looks really,
really interesting.
964
01:09:58,819 --> 01:10:00,070
How's the waffling going?
965
01:10:00,321 --> 01:10:01,822
Andrew's looks beautiful but...
966
01:10:02,656 --> 01:10:04,992
there's no tweaking involved.
967
01:10:06,368 --> 01:10:08,621
I put compactness very high.
968
01:10:10,623 --> 01:10:13,667
Daniel and I were both getting
something like this, with--
969
01:10:14,919 --> 01:10:16,587
That's what I get when I use only closure.
970
01:10:16,670 --> 01:10:17,588
Only closure?
971
01:10:17,671 --> 01:10:19,173
Oh, my God, look at the chi squareds!
972
01:10:20,174 --> 01:10:21,258
That's pretty good!
973
01:10:22,426 --> 01:10:24,929
And then this is,
after a few more iterations,
974
01:10:25,137 --> 01:10:27,932
it smooths it out and gets rid
of some of the extended junk.
975
01:10:28,015 --> 01:10:29,683
This is all on low-band?
- Yeah
976
01:10:29,767 --> 01:10:31,268
Is this only one day?
977
01:10:31,644 --> 01:10:32,561
This only one day?
978
01:10:33,270 --> 01:10:34,104
You know what โ
979
01:10:34,188 --> 01:10:35,397
That's pretty suggestive.
980
01:10:36,273 --> 01:10:37,608
Well, it seems--
981
01:10:37,691 --> 01:10:39,276
Did you remove these outliers
in the amplitude?
982
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:40,611
I didn't touch anything.
983
01:10:41,111 --> 01:10:45,449
That is very cool guys.
It's really, really cool.
984
01:10:45,532 --> 01:10:46,617
Wait, which one is that?
985
01:10:46,700 --> 01:10:47,701
This is Katie's image.
986
01:10:48,369 --> 01:10:50,037
See it looks different though,
987
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:53,749
because you guys have a
bright spot more on this side.
988
01:10:53,832 --> 01:10:55,209
Okay, seriously?!
989
01:10:55,459 --> 01:10:59,505
Look, we're all getting kind of a crescent
that's about the right size--
990
01:11:00,965 --> 01:11:03,217
So what is the size on that,
it's like--
991
01:11:03,300 --> 01:11:04,301
This is about 40.
992
01:11:05,761 --> 01:11:10,641
That's when you expect if M87
has six billion solar masses.
993
01:11:10,891 --> 01:11:12,142
That's a high mass case.
994
01:11:12,268 --> 01:11:15,813
You know what this is?
This is a scale to weigh black holes.
995
01:11:15,896 --> 01:11:18,232
Okay, seriously if we can get
anything that looks remotely
996
01:11:18,315 --> 01:11:19,692
like that on all the days--
997
01:11:19,775 --> 01:11:21,610
Guys, the only way
anyone's leaving this room
998
01:11:21,694 --> 01:11:23,821
is if everybody gets over there
so we take a picture.
999
01:11:23,904 --> 01:11:25,239
It could have been awful!
1000
01:11:25,322 --> 01:11:27,491
Am I short enough
that I can just stand here?
1001
01:11:30,411 --> 01:11:31,787
And you got to get the thing!
1002
01:11:33,330 --> 01:11:34,915
We're at a point now
1003
01:11:35,207 --> 01:11:37,918
where things could inadvertently go south.
1004
01:11:38,711 --> 01:11:40,713
Okay, so I took a picture on my phone,
1005
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:43,173
of something on the screen.
1006
01:11:43,382 --> 01:11:45,634
See you guys tomorrow, we'll do some more
imaging tomorrow.
1007
01:11:45,718 --> 01:11:48,012
All it's gonna take isfor one of these images
1008
01:11:48,679 --> 01:11:50,889
to be texted to the wrong person,
1009
01:11:51,015 --> 01:11:54,059
people will look at it,
they will measure it off of a screen,
1010
01:11:54,143 --> 01:11:55,477
they'll go write a paper.
1011
01:11:56,061 --> 01:11:57,354
I guarantee you.
1012
01:11:58,022 --> 01:12:01,275
There has to be an absolute, 100% embargo.
1013
01:12:02,651 --> 01:12:05,738
No one outside the EHT collaborationcan see anything,
1014
01:12:06,947 --> 01:12:08,574
anything that happens here
1015
01:12:09,491 --> 01:12:11,493
can never leave Team One.
1016
01:12:13,203 --> 01:12:14,997
This is pretty wild.
1017
01:12:15,539 --> 01:12:17,207
It's all wrong, I'm sure it's all wrong,
1018
01:12:17,291 --> 01:12:19,251
but if that works out,
1019
01:12:19,877 --> 01:12:22,004
it's pretty amazing.
1020
01:12:49,615 --> 01:12:50,657
Things are going well.
1021
01:12:52,785 --> 01:12:56,872
We think that we have managedto do this part of the project.
1022
01:13:03,295 --> 01:13:04,380
We've managed to get
1023
01:13:05,422 --> 01:13:08,217
our target answer of 12J.
1024
01:13:11,095 --> 01:13:12,513
There's a little bit left to do.
1025
01:13:24,691 --> 01:13:28,737
I think the only thing
that matters is 3.5.
1026
01:13:29,446 --> 01:13:31,073
3.5?
- Yeah.
1027
01:13:35,953 --> 01:13:36,829
Good to see you.
1028
01:13:38,455 --> 01:13:39,456
Hey Sasha!
1029
01:13:39,540 --> 01:13:41,125
Oh hey, you're here already!
1030
01:13:41,333 --> 01:13:44,420
Yeah, we've already done
like five pages of calculations,
1031
01:13:44,503 --> 01:13:45,337
you're late!
1032
01:13:50,259 --> 01:13:52,469
You're allowed to put your stuff
away and go to the bathroom.
1033
01:13:53,178 --> 01:13:55,514
That's alright, I'm needed.
1034
01:13:55,597 --> 01:13:57,307
No time for that!
- Nope.
1035
01:13:59,810 --> 01:14:01,353
Okay, uh...
1036
01:14:01,562 --> 01:14:05,107
So where are we at?
Like, what still needs to be done?
1037
01:14:05,858 --> 01:14:09,153
The only things I see now...
- Mm-hmm.
1038
01:14:09,236 --> 01:14:13,323
is understanding this
G plus minus to the P.
1039
01:14:13,490 --> 01:14:15,159
Yep.
- Right. And the past horizon.
1040
01:14:15,742 --> 01:14:17,828
And the past horizon.
Does anybody see anything else?
1041
01:14:17,911 --> 01:14:18,829
No, that's it.
1042
01:14:22,416 --> 01:14:24,126
Back at Brinsop, one year on.
1043
01:14:25,294 --> 01:14:27,171
Last year we thoughtit'd be pretty plain sailing,
1044
01:14:27,546 --> 01:14:29,673
we would spend a few
more weeks then we'd just
1045
01:14:29,756 --> 01:14:31,925
sum up all these terms
and get the answer we wanted.
1046
01:14:32,009 --> 01:14:34,011
And then over the course of last year,
1047
01:14:34,094 --> 01:14:36,513
we realized actually it's so much
more complicated than that.
1048
01:14:36,597 --> 01:14:38,724
Tleft, over Tright plus Tleft
1049
01:14:39,057 --> 01:14:42,227
We found there were millions of termsand it was never going be a two-week job,
1050
01:14:42,311 --> 01:14:45,147
and we got out computersfor the first time, and that didn't work.
1051
01:14:46,648 --> 01:14:47,816
One over Y.
1052
01:14:48,984 --> 01:14:52,196
And then, what we realized is that you can
actually break this equation we had,
1053
01:14:52,279 --> 01:14:55,532
we could break it down into an integrablepart, and a non-integrable part.
1054
01:14:55,741 --> 01:14:57,034
I think that was the breakthrough.
1055
01:14:58,243 --> 01:14:59,578
We had to realize that
1056
01:14:59,661 --> 01:15:01,413
we had almost everything we needed,
1057
01:15:01,747 --> 01:15:02,998
but there was somehow
1058
01:15:03,624 --> 01:15:05,334
a few terms got lost I guess.
1059
01:15:05,417 --> 01:15:06,585
N, D, here
1060
01:15:06,668 --> 01:15:07,961
What we've discovered is that
1061
01:15:08,921 --> 01:15:11,965
the equation is the sum of thevariation of the inertia charge
1062
01:15:12,341 --> 01:15:15,802
and the variation of theangular velocity of the horizon.
1063
01:15:16,178 --> 01:15:19,223
Which, when evaluated you get 12J.
1064
01:15:20,349 --> 01:15:22,017
Before, we just had a few of the terms
1065
01:15:22,100 --> 01:15:23,936
involved in the
angular velocity of the horizon.
1066
01:15:24,853 --> 01:15:27,689
And without the full thing,
it wasn't integrable.
1067
01:15:29,858 --> 01:15:32,277
Now we've found a nice physical picture
1068
01:15:32,361 --> 01:15:34,655
and a nice way of getting 12J
1069
01:15:35,072 --> 01:15:36,657
and now's the final, you know,
1070
01:15:36,823 --> 01:15:38,825
finishing touches, to make surethat we really believe in it.
1071
01:15:42,538 --> 01:15:45,832
I'm just very sad that Stephen won't beable to see this through to the end.
1072
01:15:46,583 --> 01:15:48,210
He would have been really, really excited.
1073
01:15:52,631 --> 01:15:54,174
It's weird how personal
1074
01:15:55,592 --> 01:15:56,927
physics can become.
1075
01:15:58,303 --> 01:16:03,350
One of the saddest things about Stephen's
passing in the middle of this is that
1076
01:16:04,351 --> 01:16:06,061
if it works we can't tell him.
1077
01:16:07,020 --> 01:16:08,355
One bottle in front...
1078
01:16:12,442 --> 01:16:13,277
To Stephen.
1079
01:16:13,819 --> 01:16:14,861
To Stephen.
1080
01:16:15,153 --> 01:16:19,575
One of the impressiveand wonderful things about Stephen,
1081
01:16:20,033 --> 01:16:21,660
was how much he really...
1082
01:16:22,494 --> 01:16:26,999
cared... about--
about these questions.
1083
01:16:30,961 --> 01:16:34,006
We know that it's somehowvery different inside a black hole.
1084
01:16:34,631 --> 01:16:38,802
And so the prize is a reallybig one if you figure it out.
1085
01:16:41,847 --> 01:16:43,265
The nature of spacetime.
1086
01:16:47,060 --> 01:16:48,103
That's about right.
1087
01:16:51,690 --> 01:16:55,819
Hawking handed usthe biggest clue that we have.
1088
01:16:58,196 --> 01:17:00,949
If this project we're on now
1089
01:17:02,993 --> 01:17:06,538
works, it will be like a giant sign post,
1090
01:17:06,622 --> 01:17:08,165
"there's gold in this direction."
1091
01:17:10,917 --> 01:17:12,919
You look up in the night sky
1092
01:17:13,712 --> 01:17:16,048
and of course you don't see them.
1093
01:17:18,300 --> 01:17:19,801
But you know they're up there.
1094
01:17:21,345 --> 01:17:22,763
Almost mocking us:
1095
01:17:24,765 --> 01:17:26,391
"try and figure me out."
1096
01:17:36,443 --> 01:17:37,778
I just want to check my audio.
1097
01:17:37,861 --> 01:17:39,363
Can you hear me?
1098
01:17:39,696 --> 01:17:40,864
Yeah, I can hear you.
1099
01:17:40,947 --> 01:17:42,616
Hi Monica, can you hear us?
- I can hear you. Hello!
1100
01:17:42,699 --> 01:17:44,576
Okay, so I just want to start,
1101
01:17:44,660 --> 01:17:50,040
the first telecon actually showing
the first images of M87.
1102
01:17:50,582 --> 01:17:52,626
All images are very consistent,
1103
01:17:52,918 --> 01:17:54,878
there is a shadow-like feature.
1104
01:17:55,545 --> 01:17:57,881
Really really encouraging results.
1105
01:17:59,841 --> 01:18:02,928
Wow, it worked. I mean,
it definitely worked.
1106
01:18:03,845 --> 01:18:04,805
We see the ring,
1107
01:18:06,390 --> 01:18:09,893
and then you've got to be
very skeptical, actually.
1108
01:18:09,976 --> 01:18:11,478
You know, I would love to see that thing
1109
01:18:11,561 --> 01:18:13,689
and that's what makes me very suspicious
1110
01:18:13,772 --> 01:18:15,357
about myself and what I see.
1111
01:18:15,691 --> 01:18:19,152
I think it's okay to call that
a shadow feature, if you like,
1112
01:18:19,486 --> 01:18:20,737
as you see in the middle,
1113
01:18:20,821 --> 01:18:24,408
but we should be really careful of
what we think we see.
1114
01:18:24,491 --> 01:18:26,702
Are we going to see other teams' images?
1115
01:18:26,785 --> 01:18:27,953
No, no, no, no.
1116
01:18:28,036 --> 01:18:32,916
When we meet at imaging workshop
to inspect images from each team--
1117
01:18:33,250 --> 01:18:34,918
I could not sleep last night
1118
01:18:35,168 --> 01:18:36,461
because I was so excited.
1119
01:18:36,545 --> 01:18:40,507
I mean, I've waited for this data set
and this image for eight years.
1120
01:18:41,049 --> 01:18:44,219
I'm really happy that we're all getting
pretty consistent results,
1121
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,264
and I'm excited to seewhat the other teams are doing.
1122
01:18:47,472 --> 01:18:49,725
We all kept pretty good secrets.
1123
01:18:52,144 --> 01:18:57,107
Imaging Team Three has been doing
mostly the standard technique
1124
01:18:57,232 --> 01:18:59,860
where we use this algorithm called Clean.
1125
01:19:01,820 --> 01:19:06,283
We have about half a dozen individualson the team who are making the images.
1126
01:19:07,117 --> 01:19:10,579
The central part of the image
we're in general agreement on.
1127
01:19:12,456 --> 01:19:15,375
It'll be interesting to see what the
other teams using "maximum entropy"
1128
01:19:15,500 --> 01:19:16,543
and some of the other methods,
1129
01:19:17,377 --> 01:19:18,545
what they got next week.
1130
01:19:20,088 --> 01:19:21,923
We hope that they will be consistent.
1131
01:19:23,091 --> 01:19:25,218
We're trying to be very,
very careful about it.
1132
01:19:25,427 --> 01:19:29,681
The worse thing would be to say
that we've seen black hole shadow
1133
01:19:29,765 --> 01:19:32,267
and then find out later
it was an imaging artifact.
1134
01:19:34,686 --> 01:19:36,480
Right now within Team One,
1135
01:19:36,563 --> 01:19:39,191
we feel pretty confident in the structuresthat we're getting.
1136
01:19:40,692 --> 01:19:43,236
We are feeling pretty good about
our consistency in our images,
1137
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:46,615
but we haven't seen anything
from the other teams, so,
1138
01:19:46,823 --> 01:19:48,575
it's possible that everything will be...
a complete--
1139
01:19:49,534 --> 01:19:51,369
a complete mess when
comparing between the teams.
1140
01:19:51,453 --> 01:19:54,915
And I'm a little scared for:
what is our plan moving forward,
1141
01:19:54,998 --> 01:19:56,875
if we do get different images?
- Yeah.
1142
01:20:04,007 --> 01:20:04,966
Good morning!
1143
01:20:05,050 --> 01:20:06,301
How's it going.
- Pretty good.
1144
01:20:21,066 --> 01:20:22,192
Okay, I look forward to it.
1145
01:20:23,276 --> 01:20:24,277
Hey!
- Hey.
1146
01:20:24,361 --> 01:20:25,737
Nice to meet you finally.
1147
01:20:26,321 --> 01:20:27,197
I'm Katie.
1148
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:28,490
Nice to meet you!
1149
01:20:29,032 --> 01:20:30,534
Thanks for coming all this way!
1150
01:20:41,211 --> 01:20:43,004
This is an incrediblyexciting moment.
1151
01:20:43,421 --> 01:20:45,090
For the first time we're gonna see if
1152
01:20:45,173 --> 01:20:47,175
all the teams are seeing
the same basic structure.
1153
01:20:47,259 --> 01:20:49,636
have not seen any of the results
from anywhere else.
1154
01:20:49,719 --> 01:20:53,557
So this is really a Christmas,
Hanukkah moment, right?
1155
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:57,477
This is when you unpack, this is when you
open up the gifts you know.
1156
01:20:57,602 --> 01:20:59,521
Did you get a pony? I don't know.
1157
01:20:59,604 --> 01:21:03,275
And then I self-calibrated and then
amplitude plus closure phase.
1158
01:21:03,358 --> 01:21:04,359
Okay
1159
01:21:04,442 --> 01:21:06,736
I had a little bit goosebumps.
1160
01:21:07,487 --> 01:21:11,783
I've been waiting for this moment
for like ten years.
1161
01:21:12,492 --> 01:21:15,120
I've been modeling black holes
for ten years,
1162
01:21:15,579 --> 01:21:18,707
and finally it becomes real.
1163
01:21:18,790 --> 01:21:20,333
Let's see what we could do
1164
01:21:20,417 --> 01:21:23,628
if we were to just use
the exact same script
1165
01:21:23,712 --> 01:21:26,172
without changing anything,
without any fine tuning,
1166
01:21:26,256 --> 01:21:28,300
to see what it will do.
1167
01:21:28,383 --> 01:21:30,343
Okay. That would be
very interesting to see.
1168
01:21:30,427 --> 01:21:33,763
Just out of curiosity.
To see if we can come up with one script
1169
01:21:33,847 --> 01:21:34,764
that could consistently...
1170
01:21:34,848 --> 01:21:36,683
all on microarcsecond scale.
1171
01:21:36,766 --> 01:21:40,520
So it does seem like kind of filling
in the vacuum with more.
1172
01:21:41,438 --> 01:21:45,358
So I guess we have two options
for response to zero baseline.
1173
01:21:45,483 --> 01:21:48,695
And in both it's producing more or less
the same image, right?
1174
01:21:48,778 --> 01:21:51,656
It doesn't make any
sense to use it in that.
1175
01:21:51,740 --> 01:21:55,243
It does actually, they do bring
extra information.
1176
01:21:55,452 --> 01:21:58,413
But it could be completely
extraneous information
1177
01:21:58,496 --> 01:22:01,583
Michael, I still haven't received an image
from Team Three, should I bug them?
1178
01:22:02,083 --> 01:22:03,001
Okay.
1179
01:22:04,753 --> 01:22:07,130
Then it's going to be much much worse--
- Okay.
1180
01:22:07,213 --> 01:22:08,214
Sorry, real quick.
1181
01:22:08,381 --> 01:22:10,425
How much longer do you need
before you're ready?
1182
01:22:11,509 --> 01:22:13,845
Um, I don't know...
1183
01:22:14,262 --> 01:22:15,430
Like 15 minutes?
1184
01:22:15,513 --> 01:22:17,182
Sure, if everything goes smoothly here,
15 minutes.
1185
01:22:17,265 --> 01:22:18,892
How long does Team Three need?
1186
01:22:19,351 --> 01:22:21,269
Couple of minutes if it is working.
1187
01:22:21,353 --> 01:22:22,270
Let's just do that,
1188
01:22:22,354 --> 01:22:24,189
you can see the numbers,
if they look fine to you...
1189
01:22:24,272 --> 01:22:25,106
Okay.
1190
01:22:34,699 --> 01:22:35,617
Hey, I--
1191
01:22:35,700 --> 01:22:37,369
I'm ready. I'm ready, yeah.
1192
01:22:44,334 --> 01:22:49,005
All right, so first we did a normalized
cross-correlation comparison
1193
01:22:49,089 --> 01:22:50,632
between all of the images.
1194
01:22:50,882 --> 01:22:55,595
A value of one is going to be a perfect
consistency between two images,
1195
01:22:55,679 --> 01:22:57,389
zero is pretty bad.
1196
01:22:57,931 --> 01:23:01,184
So are we ready for the moment of truth?
1197
01:23:03,019 --> 01:23:05,021
Okay, I will scroll down.
1198
01:23:05,230 --> 01:23:06,231
Oh, my God.
1199
01:23:06,356 --> 01:23:07,732
Look at that.
1200
01:23:07,816 --> 01:23:09,317
Wow!
1201
01:23:13,279 --> 01:23:14,698
It's M87!
1202
01:23:16,700 --> 01:23:19,661
We compared, basically pixel by pixel,
1203
01:23:19,744 --> 01:23:21,204
you know, how close the images were.
1204
01:23:23,498 --> 01:23:25,917
We haven't talked at all
among the teams,
1205
01:23:26,001 --> 01:23:28,378
but these numbers tell us
that despite that,
1206
01:23:28,461 --> 01:23:31,089
we're all broadly seeing
the exact same structure,
1207
01:23:31,172 --> 01:23:32,799
so it's really promising.
1208
01:23:38,596 --> 01:23:40,348
It was surprisingly emotional.
1209
01:23:41,683 --> 01:23:43,935
You know it froma mathematical point of view
1210
01:23:44,019 --> 01:23:47,063
and we've been looking at picturesquite similar to that from our own models.
1211
01:23:47,605 --> 01:23:51,401
But when you look at it and you have to
tell yourself that it's actually data,
1212
01:23:51,693 --> 01:23:55,905
that you're not seeing a simulation
but you're really looking at a black hole.
1213
01:23:56,031 --> 01:23:59,492
I found myself just with my cell phone
staring at it for hours.
1214
01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:03,913
What's going to have to happen now is,
1215
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:06,833
the whole collaboration has tocome together and agree.
1216
01:24:11,755 --> 01:24:13,673
It's the same latitude as ALMA
1217
01:24:15,091 --> 01:24:17,552
This is a very, very critical phaseof the project.
1218
01:24:18,636 --> 01:24:21,347
We have to bring very different people
with very different backgrounds
1219
01:24:21,431 --> 01:24:23,767
together to agree on something that
1220
01:24:24,684 --> 01:24:29,981
will be work representative of
200, 250 people.
1221
01:24:30,190 --> 01:24:32,317
That's a great question.
1222
01:24:32,525 --> 01:24:34,569
I think that what would be best--
1223
01:24:34,944 --> 01:24:37,322
It's very easy to lose your credibility.
1224
01:24:37,655 --> 01:24:41,242
And the Event Horizon Telescope has
built up credibility over many years.
1225
01:24:42,744 --> 01:24:44,162
We have to get it right.
1226
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:50,210
How do you decidewhat's the key essence?
1227
01:24:51,002 --> 01:24:52,545
What do we all agree on?
1228
01:24:53,171 --> 01:24:55,590
This has been a discussion
and it's been contentious.
1229
01:24:56,257 --> 01:24:58,301
And it's probably not fully decided.
1230
01:25:01,179 --> 01:25:03,098
Yes, we do want to have a...
1231
01:25:03,973 --> 01:25:04,933
a single image,
1232
01:25:05,016 --> 01:25:06,935
but we do want to show
the variations as well.
1233
01:25:07,018 --> 01:25:08,603
Yes, it's a compromise
we have to come up with.
1234
01:25:08,728 --> 01:25:12,232
Something that works.
That thing that works.
1235
01:25:12,482 --> 01:25:14,776
I think it's not
what we want to show,
1236
01:25:14,859 --> 01:25:18,279
I think we should go for the best data set
1237
01:25:18,363 --> 01:25:20,698
and the best image of this,
1238
01:25:21,032 --> 01:25:24,202
easily reproducible for anybody
who wants to do it again.
1239
01:25:24,536 --> 01:25:26,579
I kind of like the average image
1240
01:25:26,704 --> 01:25:29,457
but since it's not consistent
with any data,
1241
01:25:29,541 --> 01:25:33,753
are we going to use this image
to do for instance a parameter estimation?
1242
01:25:37,382 --> 01:25:40,927
Everybody came in with theirown funding, their own expectations,
1243
01:25:41,511 --> 01:25:43,638
so it is all about convincing each other
1244
01:25:43,721 --> 01:25:46,224
and coercing each other
to find one way forward.
1245
01:25:46,307 --> 01:25:52,355
I mean, do you think there are unmodeled
systematics-- in the synthetic data...
1246
01:25:52,438 --> 01:25:53,898
That made it very democratic,
1247
01:25:54,149 --> 01:25:55,775
but it's not easy,
1248
01:25:56,192 --> 01:25:57,777
I will not lie.
1249
01:26:11,708 --> 01:26:15,211
I think the dreamof any physicist who studies black holes
1250
01:26:16,588 --> 01:26:20,175
is to be able to go through the horizonand to the other side.
1251
01:26:26,639 --> 01:26:28,516
If I could take this trip,
1252
01:26:30,351 --> 01:26:32,770
having decided that I've hadenough of this world,
1253
01:26:34,814 --> 01:26:35,857
what would I see?
1254
01:26:45,617 --> 01:26:48,494
Just as ancient explorerswere drawn to the sea,
1255
01:26:49,495 --> 01:26:51,039
we're drawn to the horizon.
1256
01:26:54,959 --> 01:26:58,129
We're drawn always to the limits.
1257
01:27:03,676 --> 01:27:05,470
The horizon of a black hole
1258
01:27:07,013 --> 01:27:10,350
is the edge of our knowledge,
1259
01:27:11,309 --> 01:27:13,937
of our understanding of the universe.
1260
01:27:16,940 --> 01:27:21,527
And the great exciting problemis to go beyond that edge.
1261
01:27:27,867 --> 01:27:28,952
That's the ultimate.
1262
01:27:29,744 --> 01:27:33,331
That's the placewhere there's no "beyond".
1263
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:42,548
It's something that doesn't exist
1264
01:27:42,632 --> 01:27:46,469
as a physical, measurable partof the universe.
1265
01:27:48,054 --> 01:27:51,182
But you personally could still go thereand experience it.
1266
01:27:54,477 --> 01:27:56,229
But you cannot tell anybody.
1267
01:27:58,606 --> 01:28:00,775
And you don't exist anymoreto the outside world.
1268
01:28:05,154 --> 01:28:07,991
People always make the linkintuitively to death.
1269
01:28:42,483 --> 01:28:44,902
There they are! Smiling!
1270
01:28:45,278 --> 01:28:46,446
It's nice to see you again.
1271
01:28:46,529 --> 01:28:49,073
Miss you guys, miss you guys.
1272
01:28:49,198 --> 01:28:51,284
So we're free.
1273
01:28:53,036 --> 01:28:55,204
We've finished the paper.
1274
01:28:56,998 --> 01:28:58,791
That's why everybody's smiling.
1275
01:28:59,125 --> 01:29:00,835
I'm feeling pretty good.
1276
01:29:01,294 --> 01:29:03,588
I must say I'm feeling amazingly good.
1277
01:29:03,838 --> 01:29:08,009
Simply because it has taken an amazinglylong time to actually get done.
1278
01:29:08,092 --> 01:29:10,136
It's a great relief.
1279
01:29:10,595 --> 01:29:12,555
It's nice to be able to...
1280
01:29:13,056 --> 01:29:14,849
to think about thebigger picture a bit more,
1281
01:29:14,974 --> 01:29:18,144
I feel like, I spent a lot of timegetting really bogged down in--
1282
01:29:18,311 --> 01:29:19,479
You feel liberated.
1283
01:29:19,562 --> 01:29:22,690
Yeah, I feel liberated, to be able towork out more what's going on,
1284
01:29:22,774 --> 01:29:26,402
and I feel like the result we haveis very compelling.
1285
01:29:27,487 --> 01:29:32,325
We've shown that
the soft hair can account
1286
01:29:33,076 --> 01:29:37,205
for all the information
that's stored in a black hole.
1287
01:29:38,706 --> 01:29:42,210
But we have to be very smart
about what to do next.
1288
01:29:42,668 --> 01:29:44,420
Yeah, absolutely right.
1289
01:29:44,504 --> 01:29:47,256
The big challenge is trying to show
1290
01:29:47,799 --> 01:29:49,675
not only that this could happen,
1291
01:29:49,759 --> 01:29:52,762
but that it does happen.
And that there's a mechanism
1292
01:29:52,887 --> 01:29:57,475
for the flow of informationin and out of the black hole.
1293
01:29:58,851 --> 01:30:01,437
That is a much more complicated problem.
1294
01:30:02,146 --> 01:30:04,107
That's what Stephen would
want us to be doing.
1295
01:30:06,859 --> 01:30:10,863
Are you coming to the--this press release on the 15th?
1296
01:30:14,075 --> 01:30:16,828
I'm, I'm hesitating.
1297
01:30:33,928 --> 01:30:35,221
Well, good afternoon.
1298
01:30:35,638 --> 01:30:39,642
Welcome to the press launch of thefinal book by Professor Stephen Hawking.
1299
01:30:40,309 --> 01:30:44,522
Now, up until his death he continued to
search for answers with his final paper,
1300
01:30:44,647 --> 01:30:47,275
a work with his long-time collaborators,
1301
01:30:47,525 --> 01:30:50,236
Professors Malcolm Perry
and Andy Strominger,
1302
01:30:50,319 --> 01:30:54,866
on one of the most puzzling problems
facing the scientific community today,
1303
01:30:54,991 --> 01:30:56,993
the information paradox.
1304
01:30:57,743 --> 01:31:01,664
So Malcolm, Andy, give us
a capsule summary of the paper.
1305
01:31:01,747 --> 01:31:04,083
Yeah, you know, it's a huge problem
1306
01:31:04,333 --> 01:31:06,961
that Stephen gave to us.
1307
01:31:07,795 --> 01:31:10,256
It took 50 years to understand
1308
01:31:10,381 --> 01:31:13,801
what a black hole was before you started
worrying about quantum...
1309
01:31:13,885 --> 01:31:16,179
It'll be a decade before we know
1310
01:31:16,262 --> 01:31:19,515
whether this path is gonna get uswhere we want to go.
1311
01:31:20,349 --> 01:31:22,560
We also don't know that it can't.
1312
01:31:23,311 --> 01:31:28,065
And, I also have to confess,
not very scientific of me,
1313
01:31:29,025 --> 01:31:30,610
it has the right feel.
1314
01:31:32,653 --> 01:31:37,074
I'm very excited to be partof this grand adventure.
1315
01:31:42,038 --> 01:31:44,749
To Stephen.
- To Stephen.
1316
01:31:45,041 --> 01:31:47,376
To soft hair.
- To soft hair.
1317
01:31:48,669 --> 01:31:51,756
And to the demise of
the information paradox.
1318
01:31:52,798 --> 01:31:54,300
And to the next paper.
1319
01:31:57,595 --> 01:31:58,721
It's a great life.
1320
01:31:59,847 --> 01:32:01,557
It's what life is about.
1321
01:32:54,026 --> 01:32:56,654
I feel the same way.
1322
01:33:06,831 --> 01:33:09,292
Welcome to today's press conference.
1323
01:33:09,375 --> 01:33:12,670
Brought to you by the National Science
Foundation and the Event Horizon--
1324
01:33:12,753 --> 01:33:14,088
Good afternoon.
1325
01:33:14,171 --> 01:33:17,883
We have very little time before the actual
announcement goes live
1326
01:33:17,967 --> 01:33:21,887
across the globe, in six simultaneous
press conferences, so I will--
1327
01:33:21,971 --> 01:33:25,933
Buenos dias a todos, today is an
extraordinary day for astronomy.
1328
01:33:30,521 --> 01:33:36,527
What you're seeing here is the result
of many, many people working together.
1329
01:33:37,695 --> 01:33:39,280
Thank you, assembled guests,
1330
01:33:39,363 --> 01:33:40,906
black hole enthusiasts.
1331
01:33:41,115 --> 01:33:44,577
Black holes are the most mysterious
objects in the universe.
1332
01:33:45,328 --> 01:33:47,413
Now, we are members
of a large collaboration.
1333
01:33:47,997 --> 01:33:51,542
We are 200 members strong,
we have 60 institutes,
1334
01:33:51,834 --> 01:33:54,211
and we are working in
over 20 countries and regions.
1335
01:33:54,920 --> 01:33:56,672
We worked for over a decade
1336
01:33:56,756 --> 01:34:00,009
to expose part of the universe
that was invisible to us before.
1337
01:34:00,843 --> 01:34:04,055
And we are delighted
to be able to report to you today
1338
01:34:04,305 --> 01:34:07,391
that we have seen what
we thought was unseeable.
1339
01:34:08,642 --> 01:34:12,730
We have seen,
and taken a picture of, a black hole.
1340
01:34:15,107 --> 01:34:16,192
Here it is.
1341
01:34:19,862 --> 01:34:23,616
We now have visual evidencefor the existence of a black hole.
1342
01:34:24,533 --> 01:34:25,576
We now know that
1343
01:34:25,659 --> 01:34:28,829
a black hole that weighs6.5 billion times what our sun does
1344
01:34:28,913 --> 01:34:31,165
exists in the center of M87.
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