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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,635 --> 00:00:13,179 A black hole is stranger than anything 2 00:00:13,263 --> 00:00:15,849 dreamed up by science fiction writers. 3 00:00:18,101 --> 00:00:19,561 A region of space 4 00:00:19,978 --> 00:00:21,938 where gravity is so strong 5 00:00:22,647 --> 00:00:24,607 that nothing can escape. 6 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,406 Once you are over the edge, 7 00:00:32,574 --> 00:00:34,242 there's no way back. 8 00:01:16,576 --> 00:01:17,535 Wow. 9 00:01:18,119 --> 00:01:21,539 It never ceases to get me, seeing these two mountains up here. 10 00:01:23,750 --> 00:01:25,043 It's a bit deceptive. 11 00:01:25,126 --> 00:01:28,046 It looks as though you can just hike up there in a couple of hours. 12 00:01:30,048 --> 00:01:33,885 But that is a big elevation shift from where we are now. 13 00:01:40,892 --> 00:01:42,852 I was not a boy astronomer, 14 00:01:43,061 --> 00:01:45,021 I didn't have a telescope growing up... 15 00:01:46,731 --> 00:01:49,234 but I do remember seeing what a black hole was. 16 00:01:50,693 --> 00:01:53,029 I thought there are very interesting things 17 00:01:53,113 --> 00:01:54,864 in the universe to be explored. 18 00:02:00,870 --> 00:02:04,165 The Event Horizon Telescope is a new instrument 19 00:02:04,332 --> 00:02:06,543 that a global team is assembling... 20 00:02:08,002 --> 00:02:11,506 that will have the magnifying power to resolve 21 00:02:11,923 --> 00:02:14,425 the region immediately around a black hole. 22 00:02:16,136 --> 00:02:17,554 That's never been done before. 23 00:02:24,144 --> 00:02:26,813 We are chasing down something that struggles 24 00:02:27,147 --> 00:02:29,274 with all of its might to be unseen. 25 00:02:31,693 --> 00:02:33,486 And we're saying "we're gonna catch you". 26 00:02:40,910 --> 00:02:42,912 When you get to about 15,000 feet, 27 00:02:42,996 --> 00:02:45,165 you're-you're above quite a bit of the atmosphere. 28 00:02:49,752 --> 00:02:52,463 You really need to be above the atmosphere to see through 29 00:02:53,256 --> 00:02:54,674 to the emptiness of space. 30 00:03:09,606 --> 00:03:11,107 The goal of the Event Horizon Telescope 31 00:03:11,190 --> 00:03:13,276 is really easy to state, 32 00:03:15,737 --> 00:03:18,573 we're gonna take the first picture of a black hole. 33 00:03:24,996 --> 00:03:27,874 What I had yesterday as of noon, 34 00:03:28,082 --> 00:03:31,628 was every part of the system of the front end working... 35 00:03:32,295 --> 00:03:34,881 We've come to the LMT here in January 36 00:03:35,215 --> 00:03:38,343 specifically to do what's called a dry run. 37 00:03:39,260 --> 00:03:41,137 And we're discovering problems. 38 00:03:41,888 --> 00:03:45,475 Then, we tried to replace the Gunn, now we've lost power, 39 00:03:45,558 --> 00:03:47,227 and that's what we're troubleshooting upstairs now. 40 00:03:47,310 --> 00:03:50,521 Today I'm going to try to get the Gunn working again, the old Gunn... 41 00:03:50,605 --> 00:03:52,232 But if we went back to this old Gunn... 42 00:03:52,315 --> 00:03:53,191 then... - Yeah. 43 00:03:53,983 --> 00:03:56,194 we're still compatible with the EHT... 44 00:03:56,486 --> 00:04:00,031 By doing a double-down conversion. Yes. - for January and April. 45 00:04:00,573 --> 00:04:04,577 April is when we're going to have all the telescopes around the world, 46 00:04:04,869 --> 00:04:06,246 the full EHT working, 47 00:04:06,329 --> 00:04:08,957 and it's our best shot at imaging a black hole. 48 00:04:09,290 --> 00:04:12,377 But before we get there, we've got to make sure that everything is working. 49 00:04:12,460 --> 00:04:16,214 So the first goal is to try to get the 232.1 gigahertz 50 00:04:16,297 --> 00:04:18,007 working again with the old Gunn. - Yeah. right. 51 00:04:18,091 --> 00:04:19,092 If that doesn't work... 52 00:04:19,259 --> 00:04:21,594 My plan B... My plan B... - then what? 53 00:04:21,844 --> 00:04:23,763 is that... 54 00:04:27,100 --> 00:04:31,604 The larger the telescope, the better it's able to see tiny objects. 55 00:04:32,772 --> 00:04:36,234 To resolve the black hole in the center of our galaxy 56 00:04:36,401 --> 00:04:40,280 or the bigger black hole in M87, 57 00:04:40,446 --> 00:04:42,949 we need a telescope nearly the size of the earth. 58 00:04:45,952 --> 00:04:47,787 Well, that's clearly impossible. 59 00:04:49,664 --> 00:04:51,165 So we do the next best thing. 60 00:04:54,210 --> 00:04:56,504 We take telescopes scattered around the world 61 00:04:56,838 --> 00:05:00,216 and make them all look simultaneously at the black hole. 62 00:05:05,596 --> 00:05:08,182 Imagine taking a mirror 63 00:05:08,725 --> 00:05:10,393 and smashing it with a hammer 64 00:05:11,102 --> 00:05:14,230 and distributing these shards all over the world. 65 00:05:16,482 --> 00:05:19,360 And then recording what happens on each of those shards 66 00:05:19,444 --> 00:05:20,737 and then bringing them together 67 00:05:20,820 --> 00:05:23,865 and reconstructing that mirror in a supercomputer. 68 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,409 That's what the Event Horizon Telescope is doing. 69 00:05:27,535 --> 00:05:31,372 So at every site, everything has to work perfectly. 70 00:05:32,874 --> 00:05:34,292 I think this thing took quite a hit. 71 00:05:35,918 --> 00:05:37,086 In shipping? 72 00:05:39,130 --> 00:05:41,340 If it turns on and it smokes then we'll know there's something wrong. 73 00:05:41,424 --> 00:05:42,425 Yeah. 74 00:05:46,179 --> 00:05:47,764 We still have to make some tests. 75 00:05:48,556 --> 00:05:50,850 Tomorrow we are going to trigger a real observation. 76 00:05:51,350 --> 00:05:55,396 And that's gonna involve the South Pole, Spain, Chile, 77 00:05:55,730 --> 00:05:57,607 and God willing, the LMT. 78 00:05:58,149 --> 00:05:59,776 You've got a clock ticking. 79 00:06:00,318 --> 00:06:01,194 I know. 80 00:06:01,736 --> 00:06:03,404 Cue the Mission Impossible theme. 81 00:06:08,826 --> 00:06:11,662 Look at-- That's the telescope, buried underneath that 82 00:06:11,954 --> 00:06:13,873 uh, SHIT, if I may say so. 83 00:06:13,956 --> 00:06:15,333 Wait, what happened here? 84 00:06:17,794 --> 00:06:20,129 What-What happened? - Weather happened to us. 85 00:06:22,090 --> 00:06:23,591 Wait, you're shitting me. 86 00:06:23,674 --> 00:06:26,427 Last 16 hours it's been beautiful 87 00:06:26,511 --> 00:06:29,180 and as soon as we come up, like the gods hammer us? 88 00:06:32,767 --> 00:06:33,810 That's crap. 89 00:06:34,477 --> 00:06:37,021 Well we can't point and focus through this weather right now 90 00:06:37,897 --> 00:06:39,482 The schedule is supposed to start 91 00:06:39,565 --> 00:06:41,359 In 40 minutes... 92 00:06:42,693 --> 00:06:44,570 In, uh, 35 now. 93 00:06:45,113 --> 00:06:48,366 If we're still in the clouds and it gets really cold, 94 00:06:48,449 --> 00:06:50,409 it's going to be an ice situation. - Yeah. 95 00:06:51,536 --> 00:06:52,787 That's a possibility. 96 00:06:52,954 --> 00:06:56,249 That's what I'm worrying about. - Yeah, I'm really worrying about that. 97 00:06:56,582 --> 00:06:59,919 Everybody cross their fingers, use your favorite incantations, 98 00:07:00,002 --> 00:07:01,629 and we'll clear through this. 99 00:07:02,213 --> 00:07:04,382 Okay, so we're gonna set levels in the other room 100 00:07:04,465 --> 00:07:05,800 and then we'll be ready to go. - I need to adjust the power level 101 00:07:05,883 --> 00:07:07,260 of the upstairs a little bit. 102 00:07:07,343 --> 00:07:09,512 You realize that we're firing this thing off 103 00:07:09,595 --> 00:07:13,224 in exactly 14 minutes and 15 seconds. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know but... 104 00:07:17,812 --> 00:07:19,188 Ah, jeez. 105 00:07:25,862 --> 00:07:27,655 Did you say 6573? 106 00:07:27,738 --> 00:07:30,199 So it's RCP and LCP high, right? 107 00:07:30,324 --> 00:07:31,159 We got one minute. 108 00:07:31,242 --> 00:07:33,661 Here we go, people, hold onto your hats. 109 00:07:33,828 --> 00:07:35,246 Okay, we're ready. 110 00:07:37,081 --> 00:07:42,086 Four, three, two, one, zero! 111 00:07:42,336 --> 00:07:43,546 Blast off. 112 00:08:48,319 --> 00:08:49,278 Oh boy. 113 00:08:50,613 --> 00:08:51,948 What is a black hole? 114 00:08:53,991 --> 00:08:55,368 It is so deep, 115 00:08:55,952 --> 00:09:01,457 it's so hard to fully appreciate all of the physics that's going on. 116 00:09:02,333 --> 00:09:05,211 You can spend your life studying this. 117 00:09:11,342 --> 00:09:15,680 Imagine an object where gravity has become so strong 118 00:09:16,430 --> 00:09:18,683 it has compressed all of the material 119 00:09:18,849 --> 00:09:21,561 with which it started down into a point. 120 00:09:25,565 --> 00:09:28,568 This object develops what's called an event horizon. 121 00:09:29,193 --> 00:09:31,529 And this event horizon has this amazing property 122 00:09:31,612 --> 00:09:33,072 that it's a one-way street. 123 00:09:33,531 --> 00:09:37,660 You can go from the outside to the inside, but nothing will ever get out. 124 00:09:40,830 --> 00:09:43,666 The gravitational pull is so strong 125 00:09:44,458 --> 00:09:48,796 that anything that comes close enough to it will just vanish inside. 126 00:09:53,801 --> 00:09:57,555 If something disappears over the event horizon it's gone. 127 00:09:58,055 --> 00:10:00,057 And we no longer have any knowledge of it. 128 00:10:02,268 --> 00:10:04,854 It is no longer detectable, it's no longer knowable. 129 00:10:07,648 --> 00:10:08,816 It might still exist, 130 00:10:08,899 --> 00:10:11,319 it might not still exist, we have no way of knowing. 131 00:10:13,487 --> 00:10:16,157 We have a contact with a kind of phenomenon 132 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,034 that we don't fully understand. 133 00:10:25,374 --> 00:10:29,629 It's like a vortex in the universe in space and time. 134 00:10:31,005 --> 00:10:35,593 The darkest object we can imagine mathematically fundamentally 135 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,511 emits no light, reflects no light. 136 00:10:40,389 --> 00:10:42,183 But it becomes the engine 137 00:10:42,266 --> 00:10:45,394 of the most powerful events we now observe in the universe. 138 00:10:53,402 --> 00:10:55,279 There's something about them 139 00:10:56,781 --> 00:10:59,575 that really pushes the mind. 140 00:11:05,998 --> 00:11:07,416 Can you hear me? 141 00:11:08,209 --> 00:11:09,919 Yes. 142 00:11:12,713 --> 00:11:16,550 It is said that fact is sometimes stranger than fiction, 143 00:11:16,634 --> 00:11:20,346 but nowhere is that more true than in the case of black holes. 144 00:11:22,681 --> 00:11:26,977 Currently I'm working with my Cambridge colleague Malcolm Perry, 145 00:11:27,103 --> 00:11:29,397 and Andy Strominger from Harvard, 146 00:11:29,522 --> 00:11:32,274 on a new theory to explain the mechanism 147 00:11:32,358 --> 00:11:35,861 by which information is returned out of the black hole. 148 00:11:37,321 --> 00:11:38,823 Watch this space... 149 00:11:44,412 --> 00:11:46,372 I met Stephen in 1982. 150 00:11:47,665 --> 00:11:52,878 Over the years we coincided on a number of topics, a surprising number, 151 00:11:54,463 --> 00:11:58,342 but the very kind of intense thing that's grown over the last, 152 00:11:58,426 --> 00:12:00,845 what is it now, three years? Yeah. - Three years. Yeah. 153 00:12:01,470 --> 00:12:07,226 Has been a whole new, wonderful level. 154 00:12:07,601 --> 00:12:10,104 And quite different. Quite different, yeah. 155 00:12:12,356 --> 00:12:15,776 It was a fabulous warm day, 156 00:12:16,694 --> 00:12:18,362 kind of unusual in England for April, 157 00:12:19,029 --> 00:12:20,698 so we had a lecture outside. 158 00:12:22,074 --> 00:12:24,243 This was in a place called Great Brampton House. 159 00:12:25,161 --> 00:12:30,708 For the last 10 years, Stephen and friends organized a small retreat. 160 00:12:33,127 --> 00:12:36,213 I had these ideas about 161 00:12:36,297 --> 00:12:38,757 the structure of the edges of infinity and... 162 00:12:39,341 --> 00:12:42,470 how they could store information. 163 00:12:42,928 --> 00:12:45,806 I was simply listening to this lecture and I felt 164 00:12:45,890 --> 00:12:47,808 that the phenomenon he was describing 165 00:12:47,892 --> 00:12:49,810 could be happening on the surface of the black hole. 166 00:12:51,353 --> 00:12:53,898 Stephen picked up on that immediately. 167 00:12:54,523 --> 00:12:58,652 He said, this is it, this is the piece that we've been missing. 168 00:12:59,653 --> 00:13:02,781 He is very eager to unravel the paradox 169 00:13:02,865 --> 00:13:06,410 that he unleashed on the world in 1975. 170 00:13:07,578 --> 00:13:09,455 Something called the information paradox, 171 00:13:10,748 --> 00:13:14,084 which basically says that black holes annihilate information, 172 00:13:14,793 --> 00:13:18,130 which should not be possible. That's the paradox. 173 00:13:18,797 --> 00:13:20,508 It implies that there's a breakdown 174 00:13:20,591 --> 00:13:23,135 of laws of physics in the presence of black holes. 175 00:13:24,887 --> 00:13:26,388 This is why we're chasing this problem, 176 00:13:26,597 --> 00:13:28,933 because if information is lost, then that contradicts 177 00:13:29,517 --> 00:13:31,644 almost everything we know about physics. 178 00:13:32,228 --> 00:13:35,105 Something's gone wrong understanding how black holes work. 179 00:13:37,107 --> 00:13:41,612 From the outside you can't tell what is inside a black hole. 180 00:13:42,780 --> 00:13:45,866 When you look at a black hole, all you can tell about it 181 00:13:46,033 --> 00:13:49,161 are its mass, its charge and its state of rotation. 182 00:13:49,495 --> 00:13:52,665 And that's the same for any black hole no matter what it was made out of. 183 00:13:53,123 --> 00:13:57,169 This means that a black hole contains a lot of information 184 00:13:57,253 --> 00:13:59,880 that is hidden from the outside world. 185 00:14:01,423 --> 00:14:04,843 That was a very weird thing people to get to grips with and then 186 00:14:04,927 --> 00:14:06,804 Stephen Hawking made this amazing discovery 187 00:14:06,887 --> 00:14:08,847 of Hawking Radiation, that says actually 188 00:14:09,056 --> 00:14:10,307 stuff comes out of a black hole, 189 00:14:11,016 --> 00:14:13,060 and that's where the problem really started. 190 00:14:17,731 --> 00:14:20,150 It turns out they're not black, they radiate. 191 00:14:21,735 --> 00:14:25,322 And as they radiate they lose mass and eventually disappear. 192 00:14:28,617 --> 00:14:31,328 An equivalent mass of elephants could form a black hole, 193 00:14:31,495 --> 00:14:34,540 an equivalent mass of Encyclopedia Britannica could form a black hole. 194 00:14:34,832 --> 00:14:36,834 The black hole evaporates and what's left behind 195 00:14:36,917 --> 00:14:38,711 is the same sea of Hawking Radiation. 196 00:14:40,796 --> 00:14:44,842 It appears that the information about what fell in is lost. 197 00:14:46,302 --> 00:14:49,013 The particles that come out of a black hole 198 00:14:49,096 --> 00:14:51,098 seem to be completely random 199 00:14:51,682 --> 00:14:54,393 and to bear no relation to what fell in. 200 00:14:58,898 --> 00:15:03,319 If what Hawking said were correct, it can spit out anything. 201 00:15:03,944 --> 00:15:07,239 It can spit out a piano, it can spit out a trombone, it-- 202 00:15:07,448 --> 00:15:10,034 It can-- Anything can come out. 203 00:15:16,123 --> 00:15:20,127 That means that the basic nature of the universe 204 00:15:20,753 --> 00:15:23,047 is just random. 205 00:15:26,759 --> 00:15:31,305 There aren't really physical laws which govern the entire universe. 206 00:15:33,515 --> 00:15:35,726 This is every physicist's nightmare. 207 00:15:39,813 --> 00:15:41,857 Much of our knowledge of the universe 208 00:15:42,650 --> 00:15:44,193 is grounded on 209 00:15:44,777 --> 00:15:48,280 our belief that we can reliably predict using the laws of nature. 210 00:15:49,531 --> 00:15:53,035 We have a physical theory, we make predictions using that theory, 211 00:15:53,118 --> 00:15:57,498 we do experiments or observations to see if those predictions were realized. 212 00:16:00,042 --> 00:16:03,796 We understand the early universe by using the laws of physics 213 00:16:04,421 --> 00:16:07,883 to predict backwards and say what the world must have been like. 214 00:16:10,886 --> 00:16:13,472 If those laws break down, 215 00:16:16,308 --> 00:16:19,520 it's about the limits of knowledge. 216 00:16:22,523 --> 00:16:25,901 What sorts of things could we possibly know about the world? 217 00:16:35,202 --> 00:16:37,830 If the predictability of the universe 218 00:16:37,913 --> 00:16:39,873 breaks down with black holes, 219 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,835 it could break down in other situations. 220 00:16:44,712 --> 00:16:47,965 Even worse, if information is lost, 221 00:16:48,048 --> 00:16:51,093 we can't be sure of our past history either. 222 00:16:53,220 --> 00:16:56,974 The history books and our memories could just be illusions. 223 00:16:59,309 --> 00:17:02,187 It is the past that tells us who we are. 224 00:17:04,898 --> 00:17:07,901 Without it we lose our identity. 225 00:17:22,249 --> 00:17:26,128 Since I was a graduate student, the information paradox 226 00:17:26,503 --> 00:17:29,173 has been central in my thinking. 227 00:17:34,470 --> 00:17:36,722 It's a sort of 24/7 thing. 228 00:17:39,183 --> 00:17:43,395 I get up, I make myself a cup of coffee, I sit down with a pad of paper. 229 00:17:45,147 --> 00:17:48,442 I'm thinking about it when I brush my teeth, 230 00:17:49,151 --> 00:17:50,402 dream about it. 231 00:17:55,324 --> 00:18:00,871 It is the most interesting, well-posed question 232 00:18:01,330 --> 00:18:02,664 in modern physics. 233 00:18:06,418 --> 00:18:07,920 So interesting that 234 00:18:09,421 --> 00:18:13,467 I was ready to devote my life to trying to understand it. 235 00:18:26,021 --> 00:18:29,233 In the 40 years since Hawking's argument... 236 00:18:29,608 --> 00:18:32,277 By the way, while, while Malcolm's erasing... 237 00:18:32,778 --> 00:18:35,447 There's certainly been thousands of papers 238 00:18:36,532 --> 00:18:40,744 about how the paradox might be avoided. 239 00:18:43,622 --> 00:18:45,499 None of them has gained 240 00:18:46,083 --> 00:18:47,751 universal acceptance 241 00:18:48,418 --> 00:18:52,881 and they all are problematic in one way or another. 242 00:18:54,675 --> 00:18:56,135 So the magical formula I think 243 00:18:56,218 --> 00:18:58,345 I could write out in excruciating detail. - Yeah. 244 00:18:58,637 --> 00:19:02,766 So while Malcolm's writing, um... 245 00:19:03,934 --> 00:19:07,688 what we've done is first of all worked out... 246 00:19:07,771 --> 00:19:12,860 But now, Stephen, Malcolm and I have found a mechanism 247 00:19:13,485 --> 00:19:19,158 by which the information paradox might possibly be resolved. 248 00:19:19,241 --> 00:19:20,826 Wow. Seems very exciting. 249 00:19:21,743 --> 00:19:24,580 It's the beginning of something deep, we really quite don't know what... 250 00:19:24,663 --> 00:19:27,875 Investigating this is vigorously underway now. 251 00:19:27,958 --> 00:19:31,378 But central terms of what... - What is the super rotation? 252 00:19:32,921 --> 00:19:36,884 So, the super rotations, so ordinary BMS group 253 00:19:37,926 --> 00:19:41,346 Physics is about finding the truth 254 00:19:42,014 --> 00:19:43,265 about the universe. 255 00:19:44,558 --> 00:19:47,186 We might not ever get all of it... 256 00:19:47,728 --> 00:19:49,313 This then gives us a conservation law... 257 00:19:49,396 --> 00:19:52,024 but I think there's a good shot that, uh, 258 00:19:52,107 --> 00:19:55,903 in my lifetime, we'll nail this one. 259 00:19:56,236 --> 00:20:00,324 And so that's conservation of super rotation charge. 260 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,995 Now, let me erase here... 261 00:20:18,133 --> 00:20:19,509 Seeing is believing. 262 00:20:21,970 --> 00:20:25,849 That's the most credible and the most powerful sense that we have. 263 00:20:26,642 --> 00:20:27,976 We need to see things. 264 00:20:28,810 --> 00:20:30,479 We long to see things. 265 00:20:34,691 --> 00:20:38,278 In my mind, like for 10 years, there's no question there is a black hole 266 00:20:38,362 --> 00:20:41,782 and there's no question it's possible. I still want to see that stupid image. 267 00:20:42,324 --> 00:20:43,408 I want to see it. 268 00:20:49,206 --> 00:20:53,669 We have never actually seen the telltale sign of the black hole 269 00:20:53,752 --> 00:20:58,882 which is that virtual region, the horizon, from which not even light can escape. 270 00:21:00,467 --> 00:21:02,469 With the Event Horizon Telescope we're going to zoom 271 00:21:02,552 --> 00:21:04,471 all the way to the size of the horizon, 272 00:21:05,013 --> 00:21:08,016 and see if it will cast a silhouette, will cast a shadow. 273 00:21:10,018 --> 00:21:12,062 The Event Horizon Telescope is the culmination 274 00:21:12,145 --> 00:21:14,147 of really decades of work. 275 00:21:17,025 --> 00:21:19,569 Once we began to realize that we could make an image, 276 00:21:20,779 --> 00:21:22,656 that became fascinating. 277 00:21:24,491 --> 00:21:27,202 So over the past years we've gone to new sites, 278 00:21:27,286 --> 00:21:30,706 and we've had to convince those new sites that the science is worthy. 279 00:21:31,873 --> 00:21:35,335 We've had to develop and install very specialized 280 00:21:35,419 --> 00:21:37,337 and expensive equipment at all of these sites 281 00:21:38,130 --> 00:21:40,173 in all of these extreme places. 282 00:21:45,137 --> 00:21:49,141 We are now at the moment when we'll be doing our first observing 283 00:21:49,349 --> 00:21:51,226 with the chance of making an image. 284 00:21:53,228 --> 00:21:55,063 That's still a question mark but 285 00:21:55,689 --> 00:21:58,108 local wisdom is a go. - Yeah. 286 00:21:58,191 --> 00:22:02,362 SPT weather good, no-go for pointing. 287 00:22:02,988 --> 00:22:04,114 Pointing issues. 288 00:22:04,197 --> 00:22:06,992 SMT technically ready, weather forecast 289 00:22:07,075 --> 00:22:09,870 possible of high wind but unlikely to cause anything. 290 00:22:11,163 --> 00:22:13,373 So night's outlook is good, right? 291 00:22:13,457 --> 00:22:14,333 Yes. 292 00:22:15,459 --> 00:22:19,087 We set up telescopes around the earth that can talk to each other, 293 00:22:19,171 --> 00:22:21,340 that can record data in tandem, 294 00:22:21,965 --> 00:22:24,926 so after the fact we can combine these data 295 00:22:25,135 --> 00:22:29,097 and make it act like they were actually one telescope. 296 00:22:31,725 --> 00:22:34,978 Right now, the Event Horizon Telescope is an array 297 00:22:35,062 --> 00:22:37,314 of eight dishes across the globe 298 00:22:38,273 --> 00:22:43,904 from the South Pole to the Arizona desert to Hawaii to Chile 299 00:22:47,157 --> 00:22:50,827 creating, effectively, an earth-sized telescope. 300 00:22:52,788 --> 00:22:54,539 Weather forecast is good for Pico. 301 00:22:54,748 --> 00:22:56,875 I mean, they say excellent, so... 302 00:22:57,459 --> 00:22:59,836 Looks pretty good to me. - I'm changing this to .2... 303 00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:04,466 I'd like to see the LMT water vapor map. 304 00:23:07,010 --> 00:23:08,595 When you have a single facility, 305 00:23:08,845 --> 00:23:10,680 it's the weather above that one telescope 306 00:23:10,764 --> 00:23:12,682 that has to be perfect for a night's observing. 307 00:23:13,391 --> 00:23:17,354 Now imagine you need perfect weather at every single site around the array. 308 00:23:18,105 --> 00:23:21,483 By the time we start observing, it's going to have moved past 309 00:23:21,733 --> 00:23:23,360 but we don't know what else is going to move in. 310 00:23:23,819 --> 00:23:24,986 Seems to be accelerating. 311 00:23:25,654 --> 00:23:28,365 Right. - So SMT is getting worse. 312 00:23:29,616 --> 00:23:31,034 So what are the pinch points here? 313 00:23:31,368 --> 00:23:33,286 It's really just LMT and SMT, 314 00:23:33,411 --> 00:23:36,832 and we're gonna have to make a decision based... at South Pole, 315 00:23:36,915 --> 00:23:39,334 just based on what we know now which is they might have pointing issues. 316 00:23:39,793 --> 00:23:42,546 LMT, how worried are you about the maser? 317 00:23:44,381 --> 00:23:45,966 I'm a little worried about the maser 318 00:23:46,049 --> 00:23:48,218 just because we haven't done some of the tests that would let us... 319 00:23:49,970 --> 00:23:51,471 see how good it is. 320 00:23:52,347 --> 00:23:55,559 Shep, it's 3:30, we have half an hour. - Yeah. 321 00:23:55,642 --> 00:23:56,768 Should we call it? 322 00:24:02,858 --> 00:24:05,485 I basically think that we should trigger for tonight. 323 00:24:05,861 --> 00:24:07,988 I think it's probably the best weather we're gonna get, 324 00:24:08,071 --> 00:24:09,781 technical issues are breaking our way. 325 00:24:09,865 --> 00:24:11,867 I mean, of all the nights to have a question mark 326 00:24:11,950 --> 00:24:13,618 by South Pole this is the one to have it. 327 00:24:13,743 --> 00:24:14,578 Yeah. 328 00:24:15,078 --> 00:24:16,037 Um... 329 00:24:17,289 --> 00:24:22,043 We'll get some pretty good M87 scans, one hopes, right? 330 00:24:24,254 --> 00:24:25,922 So let it be written, so let it be done. 331 00:24:26,673 --> 00:24:29,551 I will make the decision, I will broadcast it. 332 00:24:29,634 --> 00:24:32,304 Night five, track D is a go! 333 00:24:33,430 --> 00:24:35,432 May all future nights be as good as this one. 334 00:24:36,725 --> 00:24:39,477 And then, all around the world, 335 00:24:40,478 --> 00:24:42,731 all the telescopes swivel at the same time 336 00:24:43,899 --> 00:24:47,360 and we will begin to record photons from the black hole. 337 00:24:59,372 --> 00:25:03,335 How big a black hole looks in the sky is a combination of its mass 338 00:25:03,543 --> 00:25:05,170 and how far away it is. 339 00:25:07,422 --> 00:25:10,967 The black hole at the center of our galaxy, Sagittarius A-, 340 00:25:11,259 --> 00:25:15,597 has the largest angular size in the sky followed by M87. 341 00:25:16,598 --> 00:25:19,726 M87's black hole is a thousand times bigger 342 00:25:19,893 --> 00:25:22,395 but roughly a thousand times farther away. 343 00:25:23,438 --> 00:25:27,234 They turn out to have pretty comparable sizes in the sky. 344 00:25:34,074 --> 00:25:37,410 This is central command, it's always manned 24/7. 345 00:25:37,786 --> 00:25:40,956 Uh, people write in and they say I'm having an emergency with 346 00:25:41,289 --> 00:25:44,668 one of my recorders, or my receiver, or something. 347 00:25:44,751 --> 00:25:46,253 We hope to be bored. 348 00:25:46,962 --> 00:25:48,546 We hope that there's nothing to do 349 00:25:48,630 --> 00:25:51,633 and that everything is going smoothly and that nothing goes wrong. 350 00:25:52,592 --> 00:25:55,470 But you know, we're here just in case. 351 00:25:56,805 --> 00:26:00,934 We've just finished Day Three of the EHT observations. 352 00:26:01,476 --> 00:26:03,061 It's been unprecedented. 353 00:26:03,228 --> 00:26:07,399 We triggered three consecutive nights of observing 354 00:26:07,607 --> 00:26:09,901 and that's because the weather has been phenomenal. 355 00:26:10,402 --> 00:26:12,279 And the team is quite tired 356 00:26:12,362 --> 00:26:15,115 because we've been working round the clock for three days. 357 00:26:15,198 --> 00:26:16,700 They're at high altitude sites, 358 00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:18,868 they're paying a lot of attention to detail, 359 00:26:18,952 --> 00:26:20,453 they're under a lot of stress, 360 00:26:20,537 --> 00:26:22,205 they're trying to run down problems, 361 00:26:22,289 --> 00:26:25,208 and we're pushing people to the limit at this point. 362 00:26:36,886 --> 00:26:38,888 Final scan of Sagittarius A- begins. 363 00:26:39,889 --> 00:26:43,810 This is it, oh yeah, so this is it. The final scan 364 00:26:44,728 --> 00:26:46,730 of the 2017 observations 365 00:26:47,897 --> 00:26:49,274 on Sagittarius A-. 366 00:27:01,619 --> 00:27:07,542 โ™ชSomewhere over the rainbow โ™ช 367 00:27:08,793 --> 00:27:11,629 โ™ช Bluebirds fly โ™ช 368 00:27:11,796 --> 00:27:13,757 Did you write that "woohoo"? - Yup. 369 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,261 โ™ช Dreams that you dream of โ™ช 370 00:27:18,678 --> 00:27:24,642 โ™ช Dreams really do come true-ooh-ooh โ™ช 371 00:27:26,644 --> 00:27:29,481 โ™ช Someday I'll wish upon a star โ™ช 372 00:27:29,981 --> 00:27:36,988 โ™ช Wake up where the clouds are far behind me โ™ช 373 00:27:37,906 --> 00:27:39,032 โ™ช Where โ™ช 374 00:27:39,115 --> 00:27:44,788 I think this song just really captures how good it is to realize something 375 00:27:44,871 --> 00:27:47,207 that you've been working on for ages. 376 00:27:49,584 --> 00:27:50,752 How long? 377 00:27:52,504 --> 00:27:53,755 I've been working on this for... 378 00:27:54,839 --> 00:27:56,257 I don't know, 20 years. 379 00:28:00,929 --> 00:28:05,350 Next at every EHT site, everybody will pack up the hard disk drives 380 00:28:05,558 --> 00:28:08,686 carefully, very carefully, 381 00:28:09,104 --> 00:28:11,356 ship them back to the central processing facility. 382 00:28:13,525 --> 00:28:14,943 Wait. Guys, we're done! 383 00:28:16,820 --> 00:28:18,780 We just finished... We've finished the whole thing? 384 00:28:19,322 --> 00:28:21,324 We're done, it's a wrap! 385 00:28:24,577 --> 00:28:27,122 We just finished the entire scan, 386 00:28:27,956 --> 00:28:31,709 and the entire schedule, and the entire campaign, 387 00:28:33,795 --> 00:28:36,756 and the entire Event Horizon Telescope 388 00:28:38,174 --> 00:28:40,802 observations for this year. 389 00:28:43,179 --> 00:28:45,682 The great challenge for the Event Horizon Telescope 390 00:28:45,765 --> 00:28:49,394 is only when you get all the data back to the central correlation facility 391 00:28:49,477 --> 00:28:51,271 do you truly know that everything worked. 392 00:28:52,063 --> 00:28:53,898 And that will take over a month. 393 00:28:55,316 --> 00:28:57,527 Until then there's always this tension, 394 00:28:57,986 --> 00:29:01,072 there's always this slight uncertainty that something's been overlooked. 395 00:29:03,825 --> 00:29:08,663 So May, springtime, rebirth, imaging black holes, 396 00:29:10,415 --> 00:29:12,417 it's gonna be quite a summer, I'll tell you that. 397 00:31:19,794 --> 00:31:20,962 It's been a perennial question 398 00:31:21,045 --> 00:31:22,547 in the philosophy of science, 399 00:31:24,090 --> 00:31:28,094 if what we're primarily interested in are phenomena 400 00:31:28,177 --> 00:31:30,930 as they can be detected experimentally, 401 00:31:33,933 --> 00:31:36,519 how, in fact, 402 00:31:36,811 --> 00:31:39,898 do we come to have knowledge about unobservable entities? 403 00:31:51,701 --> 00:31:57,040 I've always had a pull towards the invisible 404 00:31:57,332 --> 00:31:58,666 and the mysterious. 405 00:31:59,959 --> 00:32:03,004 I've sort of naturally gravitated to black holes. 406 00:32:06,382 --> 00:32:11,387 But a black hole is very, very hard to understand with just the equations. 407 00:32:19,562 --> 00:32:23,566 If you really want to know anything at any level of detail, 408 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,987 you're not going to do it with just, just pure mathematics, 409 00:32:28,071 --> 00:32:29,113 it's not going to happen. 410 00:32:29,489 --> 00:32:31,741 You need to simulate it on a computer. 411 00:32:39,123 --> 00:32:42,794 You have what's called an accretion disk that's orbiting the black hole. 412 00:32:44,128 --> 00:32:45,088 It's chaotic. 413 00:32:48,049 --> 00:32:51,844 It's ionized gas, it's got magnetic fields, 414 00:32:52,095 --> 00:32:53,763 the whole thing is churning. 415 00:32:55,348 --> 00:32:57,684 The gas gets hot and then it radiates. 416 00:33:02,438 --> 00:33:04,440 That gets a little too complicated 417 00:33:04,524 --> 00:33:07,193 for a theorist to calculate with pencil and paper. 418 00:33:15,576 --> 00:33:20,456 Simulations really help us make what is invisible, 419 00:33:21,082 --> 00:33:24,502 what is unseen, seen. 420 00:33:55,575 --> 00:33:57,785 It must be Andy. - Hiya. 421 00:33:58,953 --> 00:34:01,164 We have almost incredibly good news. 422 00:34:01,372 --> 00:34:03,166 What? 423 00:34:04,083 --> 00:34:05,168 But not quite. 424 00:34:05,752 --> 00:34:07,587 There's a missing link somewhere. 425 00:34:08,254 --> 00:34:10,673 If you don't worry about it you get the right answer. 426 00:34:10,757 --> 00:34:12,717 Oh well, I never worry, so... 427 00:34:13,468 --> 00:34:16,179 Once a year, Stephen Hawking and his friends 428 00:34:16,763 --> 00:34:19,599 take over some house somewhere, 429 00:34:20,308 --> 00:34:23,144 where we can exchange ideas, where we can have fun, 430 00:34:23,227 --> 00:34:25,229 where we can go off into the mountains and have a hike. 431 00:34:25,313 --> 00:34:26,355 Stephen arrived. 432 00:34:26,522 --> 00:34:28,316 Stephen's here, great. - So if you go 433 00:34:28,566 --> 00:34:29,650 all the way that way, 434 00:34:29,734 --> 00:34:30,735 you can say hello to him. - Okay. 435 00:34:33,029 --> 00:34:37,909 Stephen, Sasha, Malcolm and I found a chink in the armor 436 00:34:38,493 --> 00:34:40,578 of, uh... more than a chink, 437 00:34:40,661 --> 00:34:44,707 a huge gap in the armor of the information paradox. 438 00:34:44,791 --> 00:34:47,126 Why don't we use the blackboard in there. - All right. 439 00:34:47,210 --> 00:34:48,669 The old story was... 440 00:34:50,254 --> 00:34:53,925 there just wasn't any way that a black hole could store information, 441 00:34:54,008 --> 00:34:55,676 it was just a hole in space. 442 00:34:57,762 --> 00:34:59,597 What we've discovered is that the horizon 443 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,016 does have some properties that encode information. 444 00:35:03,559 --> 00:35:07,105 Namely, the supertranslation and the superrotation degrees of freedom, 445 00:35:07,188 --> 00:35:08,898 what we now call the "soft hair" 446 00:35:08,981 --> 00:35:10,775 Okay. - Uh oh, put it round. 447 00:35:12,693 --> 00:35:17,698 The hair is spread around the horizon of the black hole. 448 00:35:18,616 --> 00:35:20,785 When you throw something into the black hole 449 00:35:21,285 --> 00:35:22,578 you change its hairdo. 450 00:35:22,870 --> 00:35:25,957 So you start like this, you throw something in, it goes like that. 451 00:35:27,583 --> 00:35:32,088 We discovered there's a record of what fell into the black hole. 452 00:35:34,340 --> 00:35:37,969 Some information is definitely transferred. 453 00:35:41,389 --> 00:35:43,683 We don't know yet if all of it is. 454 00:35:45,810 --> 00:35:49,856 And that's really what we are currently trying hard to investigate 455 00:35:49,939 --> 00:35:50,857 It looks like this. - Yeah. 456 00:35:50,940 --> 00:35:53,067 It only contains, um, with two derivatives 457 00:35:53,151 --> 00:35:55,778 in epsilon, so that'll vanish. - Okay. 458 00:35:55,903 --> 00:35:59,073 We need to see if this soft hair and these soft particles 459 00:35:59,157 --> 00:36:01,159 can encode all the information in a black hole. 460 00:36:01,242 --> 00:36:02,827 Okay, so we're not worried about that term. 461 00:36:02,910 --> 00:36:04,704 No. - Did you look at that term, too? 462 00:36:05,204 --> 00:36:06,455 There's a formula, 463 00:36:07,081 --> 00:36:10,835 by Bekenstein and Hawking in the early '70s 464 00:36:11,669 --> 00:36:14,255 for exactly how many 465 00:36:15,214 --> 00:36:18,843 gigabytes of information can be stored in a black hole. 466 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:24,515 So the very first test, which we have not yet passed, 467 00:36:25,933 --> 00:36:29,729 is counting the information using the soft hair 468 00:36:30,313 --> 00:36:35,109 and showing that it gives exactly the right answer. 469 00:36:38,487 --> 00:36:41,199 If we can get the central charge to be 12J, 470 00:36:41,741 --> 00:36:43,201 information is not lost. 471 00:36:43,743 --> 00:36:45,203 Information is conserved, 472 00:36:45,453 --> 00:36:46,996 and that we'll be able to trace this information 473 00:36:47,079 --> 00:36:48,873 by looking at the horizon. 474 00:36:49,790 --> 00:36:52,418 And we've spent about three months getting zero, 475 00:36:52,501 --> 00:36:54,295 then another three months getting infinity, 476 00:36:54,503 --> 00:36:56,214 and the last few weeks, Malcolm 477 00:36:56,714 --> 00:36:59,300 thought he got 12 and now we think that's actually wrong again. 478 00:37:00,176 --> 00:37:02,303 As of today, we have 12, 479 00:37:02,386 --> 00:37:05,223 but with a dubious step. 480 00:37:06,057 --> 00:37:08,517 Are you saying that that integration by parts 481 00:37:08,601 --> 00:37:10,645 was done to get this last formula? 482 00:37:12,104 --> 00:37:13,105 I have a feeling. 483 00:37:13,898 --> 00:37:17,818 Yeah, because there's no terms with two derivatives on zeta. 484 00:37:18,527 --> 00:37:21,405 Well, the whole point was to get rid of two derivative terms on zeta. 485 00:37:22,990 --> 00:37:24,533 But maybe they're really there. 486 00:37:27,078 --> 00:37:31,791 What-- Um, let's see, uh, okay. 487 00:37:32,208 --> 00:37:35,670 So I think we need to think a little more about this. Um... 488 00:37:38,881 --> 00:37:40,883 Oh, Stephen's here. Saved! 489 00:37:43,135 --> 00:37:44,887 Hello, Stephen! - Hi, Stephen. 490 00:37:44,971 --> 00:37:45,805 Hello, Stephen. 491 00:37:46,138 --> 00:37:49,892 Why don't we give Stephen the executive summary. 492 00:37:50,142 --> 00:37:51,477 Assuming everything is right. 493 00:37:51,894 --> 00:37:53,354 To be confirmed. - No, no, 494 00:37:53,437 --> 00:37:54,981 you never assume everything is right. 495 00:37:56,857 --> 00:37:59,485 To be checked, everything to be checked. - Yeah. Everything to be checked. 496 00:38:00,027 --> 00:38:03,990 You know, it's the usual roller coaster, a few minutes ago we were very excited 497 00:38:04,073 --> 00:38:08,411 because the central term came out on the nose 498 00:38:08,786 --> 00:38:14,750 exactly what it needs to be to get the, uh, area law, 499 00:38:15,334 --> 00:38:19,463 then we realized we... we might have missed some terms. 500 00:38:23,676 --> 00:38:25,428 Something good seems to be happening. 501 00:38:27,805 --> 00:38:29,348 But we have our work cut out. 502 00:38:39,525 --> 00:38:41,152 There's something else we might have forgotten. 503 00:38:41,652 --> 00:38:42,528 What? 504 00:38:42,987 --> 00:38:45,364 There was a question of an F plus minus term. 505 00:38:46,449 --> 00:38:48,159 Yeah, I've been bothered by that. 506 00:38:48,451 --> 00:38:51,996 So, it could be the F plus minus term takes this away. 507 00:38:52,788 --> 00:38:55,666 Well, what are we doing about that, because... 508 00:38:55,958 --> 00:39:00,713 Well I thought I didn't produce anything with three derivatives of epsilon, 509 00:39:01,213 --> 00:39:02,631 but... - We better check that. 510 00:39:05,843 --> 00:39:07,678 There's a number we're after. 511 00:39:08,679 --> 00:39:10,306 12 times the angular momentum. 512 00:39:11,849 --> 00:39:14,226 So I think that is... - Or divergence of-- 513 00:39:14,393 --> 00:39:17,563 It's so hard to get the number, it's really hard to get the number. 514 00:39:18,689 --> 00:39:21,359 If you do get the number... 515 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:23,194 Up here. 516 00:39:23,277 --> 00:39:26,864 ...that will tell you that black holes have the capacity to store... 517 00:39:28,282 --> 00:39:30,493 ...all the information that might have been lost... 518 00:39:30,576 --> 00:39:32,411 I think there's a path in there somewhere. 519 00:39:32,870 --> 00:39:36,082 A giant step towards solving the information paradox. 520 00:39:36,582 --> 00:39:39,377 And Malcolm got from that to this by integrating by parts. 521 00:39:40,461 --> 00:39:42,004 Illegally. - Yes. 522 00:39:42,088 --> 00:39:45,299 But, by using divergence of a three-form... 523 00:39:45,383 --> 00:39:48,177 You can do the same thing. - You can get to this exact equation 524 00:39:48,260 --> 00:39:51,013 and you always have room for... - How many conformal 525 00:39:51,097 --> 00:39:53,599 killing vectors on the two sphere? 526 00:39:54,392 --> 00:39:55,935 Three! - An infinite number? 527 00:39:56,769 --> 00:39:57,895 Six! 528 00:39:59,063 --> 00:40:01,982 Stephen's a very interesting person to work with because... 529 00:40:02,691 --> 00:40:06,570 I guess he's a man of few words, so everything he says is really important. 530 00:40:06,654 --> 00:40:10,491 Globally well-defined strict killing vectors, 531 00:40:10,574 --> 00:40:13,911 there are three of them. Globally well-defined... 532 00:40:14,703 --> 00:40:16,705 He'll ask something which might at first sight 533 00:40:16,997 --> 00:40:19,041 seem to be he's just clarifying something, 534 00:40:19,500 --> 00:40:21,127 and actually it turns out to be 535 00:40:21,544 --> 00:40:23,879 he's got a slightly different idea or... 536 00:40:24,839 --> 00:40:27,174 he just gives a bit of his insight or intuition. 537 00:40:28,092 --> 00:40:30,928 Which might then sort of confuse everybody 538 00:40:31,011 --> 00:40:32,972 and then we realize actually it's really important. 539 00:40:33,055 --> 00:40:34,765 So we've been, uh... 540 00:40:35,599 --> 00:40:38,978 we're religiously abiding by your instructions to... 541 00:40:41,188 --> 00:40:43,232 forget about infinity. 542 00:40:43,774 --> 00:40:47,445 I was laying some groundwork first, 543 00:40:47,778 --> 00:40:49,280 sort of circling the mountain, 544 00:40:49,363 --> 00:40:52,324 trying to figure out which was the best route to the top. 545 00:40:52,908 --> 00:40:57,621 And Stephen was like, "okay, we're taking this one now." 546 00:41:00,541 --> 00:41:01,876 He's very daring. 547 00:41:03,335 --> 00:41:06,297 He doesn't want to spend a lot of time 548 00:41:06,547 --> 00:41:10,050 exploring all the subcases and different possibilities. 549 00:41:10,759 --> 00:41:13,095 He wants to go for the jugular. 550 00:41:14,096 --> 00:41:16,765 Would diffeomorphism give all the entropy? 551 00:41:16,849 --> 00:41:18,726 Which diffeomorphisms give you the entropy? 552 00:41:20,686 --> 00:41:22,771 Ah, so the question is what are the diffeomorphisms... 553 00:41:22,855 --> 00:41:25,274 This problem is probably too hard to do on your own, 554 00:41:25,357 --> 00:41:28,152 but different people think about things in different ways 555 00:41:28,652 --> 00:41:32,490 and, well, each brings their own little bit of it 556 00:41:32,573 --> 00:41:33,866 to the table. 557 00:41:33,949 --> 00:41:37,161 It's basically E to the i-n-phi around the... 558 00:41:38,245 --> 00:41:41,874 it's basically... - E to the i-n-phi but somehow... 559 00:41:42,082 --> 00:41:43,459 I tend to race 560 00:41:44,001 --> 00:41:46,712 to the end and then try to fill in the spaces... 561 00:41:46,795 --> 00:41:47,671 Really? 562 00:41:47,922 --> 00:41:52,259 ...which is a methodology which is particularly prone to making errors 563 00:41:52,343 --> 00:41:55,262 because you've already decided what answer you want. 564 00:41:58,098 --> 00:42:00,559 Whereas Malcolm would be more likely to just 565 00:42:01,268 --> 00:42:04,522 start from the beginning and systematically 566 00:42:05,022 --> 00:42:07,816 work through it, which has the other problem 567 00:42:07,900 --> 00:42:09,485 that if you're not heading in the right direction, 568 00:42:09,568 --> 00:42:10,653 you'll never get there. 569 00:42:11,987 --> 00:42:13,948 So I think we compliment each other well. 570 00:42:16,408 --> 00:42:19,578 Sasha has been a fantastic addition. 571 00:42:20,371 --> 00:42:23,415 She started as Malcolm's graduate student, 572 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:29,755 and she went from zero to sixty in a rather spectacular way. 573 00:42:33,133 --> 00:42:37,137 We had it once and it went away, and we got it again about 10 days ago, 574 00:42:37,596 --> 00:42:38,889 but it's gone away again. 575 00:42:42,768 --> 00:42:44,019 We're on the right track, 576 00:42:45,521 --> 00:42:48,065 but it's turning out to be monstrously complicated. 577 00:42:48,315 --> 00:42:49,275 I think let's go this way. 578 00:42:49,358 --> 00:42:50,317 I think go that way. 579 00:42:50,401 --> 00:42:51,569 We should've brought a helicopter. 580 00:42:52,194 --> 00:42:53,696 Well do you want to go down that way? 581 00:42:53,779 --> 00:42:55,531 This one, you mean? - No. 582 00:43:11,964 --> 00:43:16,885 This was a really convoluted international shipment because of what went on in Chile. 583 00:43:17,511 --> 00:43:19,555 You know this is important data, right? - Yes. 584 00:43:20,014 --> 00:43:24,602 I don't like to hear the word convoluted in the same sentence as "your data." 585 00:43:24,977 --> 00:43:26,604 The implement of destruction. 586 00:43:27,605 --> 00:43:29,732 This is freshly delivered data. 587 00:43:32,943 --> 00:43:34,486 All the way from Chile, 588 00:43:34,612 --> 00:43:37,406 recorder three, slot two, set two. 589 00:43:38,574 --> 00:43:40,743 Nicely labeled. Mm-hmm. - Vincent? 590 00:43:40,993 --> 00:43:44,413 Photons from Chile. Frozen. 591 00:43:45,831 --> 00:43:49,126 When we get the data from these different telescopes, 592 00:43:49,627 --> 00:43:52,921 the amount of data is immense. 593 00:43:53,047 --> 00:43:55,591 We really have to measure every single wave, 594 00:43:55,674 --> 00:43:57,426 every single trough and crest 595 00:43:57,593 --> 00:43:59,303 of the waves as they come to the telescope. 596 00:44:01,513 --> 00:44:03,849 We have to record this faithfully 597 00:44:03,932 --> 00:44:06,810 and then match up each wave front 598 00:44:06,894 --> 00:44:09,647 with the corresponding one from another telescope 599 00:44:09,730 --> 00:44:11,023 halfway across the earth. 600 00:44:11,106 --> 00:44:12,941 Okay, the latest addition from ALMA. 601 00:44:13,692 --> 00:44:14,777 What else do we have here? 602 00:44:14,860 --> 00:44:18,072 We are generating about one and a half petabytes of data 603 00:44:18,155 --> 00:44:19,406 per night of observation. 604 00:44:20,574 --> 00:44:22,910 Okay. - Yeah, once we cleared... 605 00:44:22,993 --> 00:44:26,830 By far the largest amount of data per night of observing 606 00:44:27,081 --> 00:44:30,292 than any physics experiment in the history of science. 607 00:44:30,751 --> 00:44:32,127 I want to see... 608 00:44:32,628 --> 00:44:34,421 Okay, so here's a whole ALMA set 609 00:44:35,673 --> 00:44:37,591 We bring all the data back, 610 00:44:37,758 --> 00:44:40,260 all these disk drives to a super computer, 611 00:44:40,594 --> 00:44:43,681 one is at the MIT Haystack Observatory, 612 00:44:44,556 --> 00:44:47,476 and the other is at the Max Planck Institute for Radio Astronomy 613 00:44:47,601 --> 00:44:50,521 in Bonn, Germany. Then between these two sites, 614 00:44:50,854 --> 00:44:53,148 we process and handle all of the data. 615 00:44:53,232 --> 00:44:55,734 This is how you make an earth-size telescope. 616 00:44:55,984 --> 00:44:57,986 It's like a map of the entire globe. 617 00:44:58,237 --> 00:45:02,074 So up here we have modules that were recorded in Mexico, 618 00:45:02,282 --> 00:45:05,452 uh, these are also from Mexico, this is from Arizona, 619 00:45:05,702 --> 00:45:07,955 uh, this is from Spain over here, 620 00:45:08,664 --> 00:45:10,332 uh, this is from Hawaii. 621 00:45:10,916 --> 00:45:13,502 We cannot do any of the processing from the South Pole. 622 00:45:13,585 --> 00:45:15,671 The South Pole station is closed now. 623 00:45:16,672 --> 00:45:18,382 Nothing can land or take off. 624 00:45:19,675 --> 00:45:22,845 All the data's in the deep freeze until October. 625 00:45:25,180 --> 00:45:27,224 This is where all the data come together 626 00:45:27,641 --> 00:45:29,852 and we get the final data products. 627 00:45:30,477 --> 00:45:34,273 So, it's happening. It's hard to believe after so long, but it's happening. 628 00:45:34,815 --> 00:45:38,694 Drop it for now and let's try, let's just put the baseline in. 629 00:45:41,655 --> 00:45:43,407 Once you correct the manual phase cals... 630 00:45:44,366 --> 00:45:45,576 then this will clean up... 631 00:45:47,244 --> 00:45:51,248 and even the signal-to-noise ratio will go up and the amplitude will go up. 632 00:45:52,332 --> 00:45:54,126 That is really amazing. 633 00:45:55,335 --> 00:45:57,671 We're getting the kind of sensitivities 634 00:45:57,838 --> 00:46:02,301 and the resolution that we have been after for about a decade. 635 00:46:04,803 --> 00:46:06,930 For me, personally, 636 00:46:07,973 --> 00:46:11,685 this is a moment of great anxiety. 637 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,815 We've worked for a long time for this result. 638 00:46:17,524 --> 00:46:21,778 And we don't know even now what we have. 639 00:49:10,530 --> 00:49:12,783 Black holes are out of reach. 640 00:49:16,453 --> 00:49:19,539 We do not know if the equations we're using 641 00:49:19,748 --> 00:49:21,750 actually describes a black hole. 642 00:49:23,168 --> 00:49:27,631 That's what we cannot directly test, that's-that's the dilemma we're in. 643 00:49:32,302 --> 00:49:34,137 In my laboratory, 644 00:49:34,221 --> 00:49:37,724 I have a model that mimics certain features of black holes. 645 00:49:40,143 --> 00:49:43,271 Of course it is not a real black hole, it would be pretty dangerous. 646 00:49:46,858 --> 00:49:50,153 What we really have is a gigantic pool of water. 647 00:49:51,780 --> 00:49:55,033 You get this nice vortex forming right in the center. 648 00:49:57,411 --> 00:50:02,207 For small fluctuations on the surface it should look like a rotating black hole. 649 00:50:10,507 --> 00:50:13,760 There is physics associated to the horizon: 650 00:50:15,303 --> 00:50:16,263 light bending, 651 00:50:16,805 --> 00:50:18,056 Hawking radiation, 652 00:50:18,473 --> 00:50:19,433 superradiance. 653 00:50:21,810 --> 00:50:24,104 And these are the kinds of effects we can simulate. 654 00:50:24,604 --> 00:50:26,940 All the effects that happen outside the event horizon. 655 00:50:31,570 --> 00:50:35,198 And at the end, you see an effect which has been predicted for many years 656 00:50:35,282 --> 00:50:37,534 without any experimental confirmation. 657 00:50:40,203 --> 00:50:41,455 That's real physics. 658 00:50:41,997 --> 00:50:43,331 It has been detected. 659 00:50:48,587 --> 00:50:52,340 There is a limit to what we know about black hole now, 660 00:50:52,716 --> 00:50:53,842 but I'm a scientist, 661 00:50:54,843 --> 00:50:57,137 this is the best situation you can be in. 662 00:51:01,099 --> 00:51:03,477 We have this universe in a Petri dish. 663 00:51:05,187 --> 00:51:09,149 And it's holding fantastic new insights 664 00:51:09,357 --> 00:51:11,109 waiting to be discovered. 665 00:51:25,415 --> 00:51:26,792 So zeta minus 666 00:51:27,167 --> 00:51:28,418 zeta-tilda-Y, 667 00:51:28,710 --> 00:51:33,673 and this contains an epsilon double prime, that contains an epsilon prime. 668 00:51:33,965 --> 00:51:35,926 So that will go like one over W plus. 669 00:51:36,009 --> 00:51:38,762 This goes one over W plus, 670 00:51:40,847 --> 00:51:43,225 which means you got to compute this thing to W plus, 671 00:51:43,308 --> 00:51:45,018 you're sure there's not something else? 672 00:51:45,977 --> 00:51:47,270 No it doesn't. 673 00:51:47,354 --> 00:51:51,191 No, it doesn't, because it's only the one over W plus term that can contribute. 674 00:51:54,402 --> 00:51:55,237 Right. 675 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:56,947 We need that one over W plus. 676 00:51:57,030 --> 00:51:58,990 So you have to compute this to order W plus. 677 00:51:59,366 --> 00:52:00,242 No. 678 00:52:00,325 --> 00:52:03,286 No, because you want one over W plus in the integrand. 679 00:52:03,787 --> 00:52:04,913 Oh right. 680 00:52:04,996 --> 00:52:06,998 Because the range of W plus is zero. 681 00:52:07,082 --> 00:52:10,377 So if we don't have one over W plus there, we get zero. 682 00:52:13,797 --> 00:52:15,799 We didn't understand this in Brinsop. 683 00:52:15,882 --> 00:52:17,551 No, I guess we did not understand that. 684 00:52:21,471 --> 00:52:23,849 We thought at Brinsop that things were relatively simple, 685 00:52:24,266 --> 00:52:26,142 we didn't have to think about so much, 686 00:52:26,309 --> 00:52:29,354 But since then, we've discovered all kinds of other things 687 00:52:29,437 --> 00:52:31,314 which do contribute and complicate matters. 688 00:52:32,065 --> 00:52:35,402 In Brinsop, we thought we could do it by hand. 689 00:52:36,361 --> 00:52:38,572 You know, ten pages. 690 00:52:42,284 --> 00:52:44,995 Turns out to be among the most 691 00:52:46,371 --> 00:52:50,333 long calculations that any of us has done. 692 00:52:50,542 --> 00:52:52,878 That's actually spot on. 693 00:52:57,048 --> 00:52:58,550 One thousand and fifty terms. 694 00:52:58,633 --> 00:53:04,180 1050 terms? You can't do, you cannot add 1050 terms 695 00:53:04,681 --> 00:53:06,433 without making a single mistake. 696 00:53:07,392 --> 00:53:08,393 Or I can't. 697 00:53:08,852 --> 00:53:10,520 I think that's even beyond Malcolm. 698 00:53:10,604 --> 00:53:12,731 I think I can do about half of that, but... 699 00:53:14,733 --> 00:53:16,484 So a month ago, 700 00:53:17,152 --> 00:53:21,156 we realized we were going to have to use computers. 701 00:53:23,241 --> 00:53:26,578 Essentially adding up many thousands of terms; 702 00:53:26,912 --> 00:53:31,499 if they all add up to exactly 12J, 703 00:53:31,583 --> 00:53:34,169 it will mean the hair that's on the black hole 704 00:53:34,794 --> 00:53:38,673 is enough to completely reconstruct how it was made. 705 00:53:39,215 --> 00:53:41,635 That's a long way towards solving the information paradox. 706 00:53:42,761 --> 00:53:44,596 We haven't seen that happening so far. 707 00:53:45,472 --> 00:53:49,476 Which either means that we-- there's a mistake in our computer program, 708 00:53:49,559 --> 00:53:50,936 a mistake in our input, 709 00:53:51,353 --> 00:53:54,689 or a mistake in our conceptual analysis of the problem. 710 00:53:56,066 --> 00:53:59,486 And we've been up and down in our level of optimism. 711 00:54:00,195 --> 00:54:03,365 We must believe that actually, it's going to work out properly 712 00:54:03,448 --> 00:54:04,866 for the very simple reason 713 00:54:04,950 --> 00:54:08,495 that we would not be putting this much effort into it if we didn't believe that. 714 00:54:10,997 --> 00:54:13,917 We are putting the effort in. - We are putting the effort in, yeah. 715 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,212 And the reason we're doing that is because we believe it. 716 00:54:18,713 --> 00:54:20,465 If we didn't believe it we probably would have... 717 00:54:22,926 --> 00:54:24,803 Given up months ago. - been a bit more discouraged. 718 00:54:26,805 --> 00:54:27,889 I'm optimistic. 719 00:54:30,350 --> 00:54:32,185 But I think we're missing something quite-- 720 00:54:33,311 --> 00:54:34,938 we're missing a term or something. 721 00:54:36,898 --> 00:54:37,816 Or an idea. 722 00:54:37,899 --> 00:54:41,987 Or an idea or something. We haven't just not added things up correctly. 723 00:54:45,156 --> 00:54:50,245 The information paradox says that because of black holes, 724 00:54:50,412 --> 00:54:51,538 the universe 725 00:54:52,163 --> 00:54:53,999 can't be described 726 00:54:54,708 --> 00:54:57,502 exactly by physical laws. 727 00:55:00,171 --> 00:55:02,215 I'm putting my money on an idea that 728 00:55:02,716 --> 00:55:06,302 there are physical laws and that we can figure out what they are. 729 00:55:08,763 --> 00:55:10,724 But it's not over yet. 730 00:55:23,403 --> 00:55:26,781 I think it is interesting when observations 731 00:55:27,032 --> 00:55:29,200 don't conform to 732 00:55:29,367 --> 00:55:32,996 our standard picture of how things behave. 733 00:55:33,163 --> 00:55:36,416 And that's when people start to look for 734 00:55:36,666 --> 00:55:38,543 more exotic explanations. 735 00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,631 And that's what happened with the black hole story. 736 00:55:46,509 --> 00:55:49,095 Black holes were initially very 737 00:55:49,345 --> 00:55:53,183 esoteric, mathematical, very hard to accept, 738 00:55:53,850 --> 00:55:56,644 and yet increasingly over time, 739 00:55:56,728 --> 00:55:59,731 there were observations that didn't make sense. 740 00:56:01,441 --> 00:56:04,652 Black holes were the best explanation for what was observed. 741 00:56:05,987 --> 00:56:09,240 What was still quite controversial were the supermassive black holes, 742 00:56:09,324 --> 00:56:12,243 the ones that were a million to a billion times the mass of the sun. 743 00:56:15,413 --> 00:56:18,374 Maybe all galaxies harbor supermassive black holes at their cores. 744 00:56:19,334 --> 00:56:21,086 Even our own galaxy. 745 00:56:22,128 --> 00:56:24,005 That was pretty controversial, 746 00:56:24,714 --> 00:56:28,802 and that is certainly the idea that I got very interested in. 747 00:56:31,346 --> 00:56:33,473 And I had this technique that I was working on, 748 00:56:33,556 --> 00:56:35,850 my group and then the group in Germany, 749 00:56:36,017 --> 00:56:39,646 that in principle could figure it out. 750 00:56:41,606 --> 00:56:44,943 And this was just as the Keck Observatory was opening up in Hawaii. 751 00:56:48,488 --> 00:56:51,032 It's kind of amazing that a very big telescope 752 00:56:51,116 --> 00:56:53,368 let us monkey around with the instrumentation at all. 753 00:56:56,579 --> 00:56:57,413 And yet it worked. 754 00:56:58,081 --> 00:56:59,624 All of a sudden you could see the center of the galaxy, 755 00:56:59,707 --> 00:57:01,334 these stars at the center of the galaxy. 756 00:57:05,421 --> 00:57:08,716 And if there's a black hole there that has a few million times the mass of sun, 757 00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,386 these things are gonna move really, really fast. 758 00:57:13,346 --> 00:57:15,223 โ€˜95 was our first measurement, 759 00:57:15,515 --> 00:57:19,352 โ€˜96, we saw a second picture, and oh my goodness! 760 00:57:20,979 --> 00:57:23,648 Those things were absolutely not in the same place. 761 00:57:25,233 --> 00:57:26,985 These things were hauling! 762 00:57:28,486 --> 00:57:31,239 โ€˜98, โ€˜99, it was already clear 763 00:57:31,322 --> 00:57:33,741 that the ones that were really close, were starting to curve. 764 00:57:36,327 --> 00:57:38,788 The curvature gives you a direction to the black hole. 765 00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,250 And we had three stars that were curving, so it was like three arrows 766 00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,796 and they all intersected at the same place. 767 00:57:50,675 --> 00:57:52,927 You need something very massive 768 00:57:53,303 --> 00:57:56,139 to drive that kind of short-period orbit. 769 00:58:01,102 --> 00:58:06,149 It's hard to conceive of anything else at its center 770 00:58:06,232 --> 00:58:09,110 other than a supermassive black hole. 771 00:58:13,031 --> 00:58:15,033 We're on our way in. 772 00:58:17,952 --> 00:58:19,454 You can just taste it. 773 00:58:30,798 --> 00:58:31,925 345 774 00:58:32,008 --> 00:58:33,968 No, I think Kazu told me-- 775 00:58:34,052 --> 00:58:36,638 Yeah, but Kazu told me to look at 120 yesterday 776 00:58:36,721 --> 00:58:38,348 and that's why that we were looking at that one. 777 00:58:38,431 --> 00:58:40,141 So this is 3C345? 778 00:58:40,225 --> 00:58:41,226 Yeah. - Okay. 779 00:58:41,309 --> 00:58:43,645 The fact that we're aiming so high with the EHT 780 00:58:43,728 --> 00:58:46,231 to see something you know no one's ever seen before means 781 00:58:46,356 --> 00:58:49,192 we have to develop an entirely new set of tools. 782 00:58:49,609 --> 00:58:51,945 It's a lot easier to start with a big field of view... 783 00:58:52,111 --> 00:58:54,656 We have to reconstruct an image with sufficient fidelity 784 00:58:54,739 --> 00:58:56,574 that we can trust what we're seeing. 785 00:58:56,658 --> 00:58:58,284 ...small and then you get some weird structuring on there. 786 00:58:58,660 --> 00:59:02,205 Yeah, anyway, I don't have it loaded on linear scale with them all in the same 787 00:59:02,288 --> 00:59:05,083 When we take a picture on our camera, right, 788 00:59:05,166 --> 00:59:08,461 you believe that picture is exactly reality, right? 789 00:59:08,545 --> 00:59:10,755 You actually saw that with your own eyes 790 00:59:10,838 --> 00:59:12,632 and you can see, oh, okay, that matches. 791 00:59:12,799 --> 00:59:16,302 When we take a picture of a black hole with the Event Horizon Telescope, 792 00:59:16,386 --> 00:59:17,971 we don't get to see that, 793 00:59:18,054 --> 00:59:20,098 we don't know if the picture we generate 794 00:59:20,181 --> 00:59:21,849 is actually what the black hole looks like. 795 00:59:22,934 --> 00:59:25,144 How do we evaluate what's the true image? 796 00:59:26,187 --> 00:59:27,188 So which is right? 797 00:59:27,730 --> 00:59:28,856 What I'm saying is in general... 798 00:59:29,023 --> 00:59:32,360 which is right? You know, people publish... 799 00:59:32,485 --> 00:59:35,196 One way we approach the problem is by separating the teams 800 00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,365 into different groups that can't talk to each other. 801 00:59:38,408 --> 00:59:41,286 We generate data from lots of different kinds of images, 802 00:59:41,661 --> 00:59:44,872 realistic data like we would get from the Event Horizon Telescope, 803 00:59:45,248 --> 00:59:48,167 then release to the community but without the true image 804 00:59:48,710 --> 00:59:52,130 and we say, do your best job, get your best image from this data. 805 00:59:52,547 --> 00:59:56,718 What happens in Team One room stays in Team One room, right? 806 00:59:57,385 --> 00:59:59,554 If I see another team's image, 807 00:59:59,637 --> 01:00:02,640 I might start trying to push my imaging algorithms, 808 01:00:02,724 --> 01:00:05,810 even subconsciously, in a direction that would favor that kind of image. 809 01:00:05,893 --> 01:00:07,645 Look at these amplitude error bars 810 01:00:08,855 --> 01:00:13,568 We want to have many rounds of imaging and refining that imaging process 811 01:00:14,569 --> 01:00:17,196 before we actually compare the images 812 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,074 You look at all these different things with the same data, 813 01:00:20,366 --> 01:00:21,951 it's a cage match of love... 814 01:00:22,076 --> 01:00:25,913 We should be able to cross-compare the different algorithms between the teams. 815 01:00:26,205 --> 01:00:28,207 And if we start getting convergence on those, 816 01:00:28,499 --> 01:00:32,253 then we'll know that we're in a good position to do the same for Sag-A- and M87 817 01:00:32,337 --> 01:00:35,006 And here is low closure amplitude. 818 01:00:35,340 --> 01:00:37,091 There's a really big difference. 819 01:00:37,258 --> 01:00:38,593 It is three days apart. 820 01:00:39,093 --> 01:00:41,095 Yeah, but the source has not changed that much, 821 01:00:41,721 --> 01:00:43,222 and you cannot change the speed of light. 822 01:00:44,098 --> 01:00:49,937 But you know, orange and blue, that's exactly same day, exactly same time 823 01:00:50,396 --> 01:00:54,442 In Team Two, I would say we had a hard time. 824 01:00:55,234 --> 01:00:59,322 My feeling is that data are not yet ready, 825 01:01:00,031 --> 01:01:02,075 not yet well-calibrated 826 01:01:02,617 --> 01:01:03,951 for imaging. 827 01:01:04,035 --> 01:01:06,788 So there is still work to be done. 828 01:01:15,171 --> 01:01:17,340 I just happened to be looking at the Guardian website 829 01:01:17,757 --> 01:01:21,719 at around midnight on the evening of the 13th, 830 01:01:22,387 --> 01:01:23,680 and they announced it. 831 01:01:25,306 --> 01:01:26,182 And that was it. 832 01:01:28,851 --> 01:01:32,689 We had been talking about going to see him. 833 01:01:33,773 --> 01:01:35,692 Because we were worried, and because 834 01:01:36,401 --> 01:01:40,488 we knew that the work would lift his spirits. 835 01:01:42,448 --> 01:01:45,451 We kept saying as soon as we get somewhere, 836 01:01:45,535 --> 01:01:47,203 we're flying straight back to the UK 837 01:01:47,286 --> 01:01:50,039 to talk to him about it and discuss the next step with him. 838 01:01:50,748 --> 01:01:55,294 It would have made him so happy to realize that we'd got somewhere with this project. 839 01:01:55,753 --> 01:01:59,340 And unfortunately we just didn't get there in time. 840 01:02:01,718 --> 01:02:03,803 We all think in different ways, - Yeah. 841 01:02:03,886 --> 01:02:07,014 and he has his own unique way of thinking about things 842 01:02:08,224 --> 01:02:12,687 and we're not going to be allowed to have access to his mind anymore. 843 01:02:13,062 --> 01:02:14,605 That's a huge loss. 844 01:02:15,648 --> 01:02:17,942 There's a special kind of friendship 845 01:02:18,943 --> 01:02:24,657 that grows out of scientific collaboration and discovery 846 01:02:24,741 --> 01:02:28,786 that's in my experience like no other. 847 01:02:30,079 --> 01:02:34,375 And to have a, you know... 848 01:02:36,002 --> 01:02:37,545 scientific... 849 01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,506 a productive scientific interaction 850 01:02:41,841 --> 01:02:46,012 with somebody over many decades 851 01:02:47,096 --> 01:02:48,639 and then lose them, 852 01:02:49,557 --> 01:02:51,142 is very sad. 853 01:02:52,351 --> 01:02:56,606 It's sad in a different way than losing a relative or, but it's... 854 01:02:57,482 --> 01:02:59,400 it's, uh... 855 01:03:02,153 --> 01:03:05,406 it's a special thing and it's very sad to lose that. 856 01:03:44,445 --> 01:03:46,572 You can imagine if you were floating 857 01:03:46,864 --> 01:03:48,950 near two black holes that collided. 858 01:03:50,785 --> 01:03:54,914 As they orbit, space time begins to ring in response. 859 01:03:56,332 --> 01:03:58,251 They're like mallets on a drum. 860 01:03:58,918 --> 01:04:00,545 The drum is space time itself. 861 01:04:01,587 --> 01:04:02,922 It begins to ring. 862 01:04:04,048 --> 01:04:06,884 Gravitational waves, squeezing and stretching space. 863 01:04:09,053 --> 01:04:12,098 In principle, they would pluck your ear drum, 864 01:04:12,765 --> 01:04:16,143 you would hear them even though it's empty space. 865 01:04:21,691 --> 01:04:26,320 Gravitational waves are actually like a sound in the medium of space time. 866 01:04:33,536 --> 01:04:37,456 And that was the greatest discovery of 2015. 867 01:04:37,999 --> 01:04:42,545 The experiment LIGO recorded the collision of two completely dark black holes. 868 01:04:47,425 --> 01:04:50,261 The final one-fifth of a second 869 01:04:50,344 --> 01:04:53,639 before the black holes merged and went quiet as a bigger black hole. 870 01:04:54,807 --> 01:04:56,058 And that's stunning. 871 01:04:56,142 --> 01:04:59,312 The only evidence we've had for black holes before then 872 01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:01,355 was what they do to their environment. 873 01:05:02,064 --> 01:05:03,441 This felt direct. 874 01:05:03,566 --> 01:05:06,277 The first completely direct evidence 875 01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,905 of not only the existence of black holes, 876 01:05:09,030 --> 01:05:11,782 but the existence of a pair of black holes. 877 01:05:12,283 --> 01:05:15,536 This signal comes after traveling over a billion years, 878 01:05:16,037 --> 01:05:17,413 and they record it. 879 01:05:17,496 --> 01:05:20,708 Just a spectacular, spectacular discovery. 880 01:05:22,919 --> 01:05:26,672 My work very much was about theoretically how black holes collide, 881 01:05:26,756 --> 01:05:28,966 what it would sound like, simulating those sounds, 882 01:05:29,050 --> 01:05:32,303 and understanding the dynamics of black hole orbits. 883 01:05:36,766 --> 01:05:40,227 Gravitational waves are so quiet by the time that they reach the earth, 884 01:05:41,854 --> 01:05:46,108 the experiments only pick up the final few orbits. 885 01:05:48,402 --> 01:05:50,821 To dig deeper and hear the approach, 886 01:05:50,988 --> 01:05:55,701 my group has been doing approximations of the final several minutes. 887 01:05:57,286 --> 01:05:58,829 Listening to the longer run-up, 888 01:05:59,413 --> 01:06:02,667 we can tell if the black holes had a more interesting dynamic, 889 01:06:02,750 --> 01:06:04,460 if it was a more complicated motion. 890 01:06:06,963 --> 01:06:10,174 So in this case not only are the black holes different masses, 891 01:06:10,424 --> 01:06:13,511 not only are they on a more complicated orbit, 892 01:06:13,594 --> 01:06:15,012 but they're also spinning. 893 01:06:18,849 --> 01:06:21,852 The system begins to rotate in space 894 01:06:24,105 --> 01:06:25,940 and you can hear it get quieter 895 01:06:26,524 --> 01:06:28,734 as the gravitational waves are beamed away from you, 896 01:06:28,818 --> 01:06:31,529 and louder as they're beamed to you. 897 01:06:32,363 --> 01:06:34,991 And so these are all details we can extract 898 01:06:35,199 --> 01:06:37,493 from the gravitational waves' sound just by listening. 899 01:06:39,787 --> 01:06:41,330 And then they get louder, faster, 900 01:06:42,039 --> 01:06:43,207 right before they merge. 901 01:06:44,834 --> 01:06:46,877 And then it goes quiet as one big black hole. 902 01:06:48,921 --> 01:06:50,631 There is a human pleasure 903 01:06:50,965 --> 01:06:55,052 in being able to experience, viscerally, 904 01:06:55,136 --> 01:06:56,804 a recording like that. 905 01:06:57,471 --> 01:07:00,057 In some sense, making black holes more real. 906 01:07:01,892 --> 01:07:04,020 What a remarkable time to be alive: 907 01:07:05,187 --> 01:07:10,026 to actually be on that cusp of not knowing, and then discovering. 908 01:07:26,876 --> 01:07:29,712 All right guys, we're gonna release the data. 909 01:07:30,004 --> 01:07:30,838 Whoo! 910 01:07:30,921 --> 01:07:32,840 Big moment, let's do it then. 911 01:07:33,340 --> 01:07:37,470 Okay, I'm including everybody in the entire collaboration on this note. 912 01:07:38,679 --> 01:07:43,267 The end goal is to have this snapshot of reality: how a black hole really looks. 913 01:07:44,351 --> 01:07:48,564 Black holes at the center of galaxies are bathed in this hot glowing plasma, 914 01:07:48,731 --> 01:07:50,941 and so there's light coming from behind the black hole 915 01:07:51,025 --> 01:07:52,943 and in front of it and every which way. 916 01:07:53,736 --> 01:07:55,613 They curve their spacetime so much 917 01:07:55,696 --> 01:07:57,907 that even light from behind the black hole 918 01:07:57,990 --> 01:08:00,910 can be bent around them to reach the observer. 919 01:08:04,497 --> 01:08:05,331 You can imagine 920 01:08:05,414 --> 01:08:08,459 some of the photons would be far enough away they'd just come to you, 921 01:08:08,876 --> 01:08:12,421 some of them would be close to the horizon and they get bent inward, 922 01:08:13,214 --> 01:08:16,592 and some of them would be too close and they'd fall into the black hole. 923 01:08:18,302 --> 01:08:21,097 And so the shadow of the black hole is this circular area 924 01:08:21,180 --> 01:08:22,515 of diminished brightness 925 01:08:22,723 --> 01:08:24,225 with this bright ring around it. 926 01:08:25,434 --> 01:08:28,896 It's really a special thing that there's such a concrete prediction 927 01:08:28,979 --> 01:08:30,523 for something that no one's ever seen. 928 01:08:31,524 --> 01:08:34,610 You know, if you're making an image, you have to come in the other room, 929 01:08:34,693 --> 01:08:36,362 Okay. - So we all start at the same time. 930 01:08:36,445 --> 01:08:38,364 Team One Imagers! 931 01:08:38,906 --> 01:08:40,950 Okay, which day has the best coverage by the way? 932 01:08:41,033 --> 01:08:42,827 I'm doing 3601. 933 01:08:42,910 --> 01:08:44,870 I was going to do 3601 for now. - Same. 934 01:08:45,079 --> 01:08:46,455 Okay, are we ready? 935 01:08:46,539 --> 01:08:47,748 I'm giddy. 936 01:08:47,832 --> 01:08:50,417 Oh, my God, wait, should we close the door, are we ready? 937 01:08:50,501 --> 01:08:52,920 Wait, what is happening? 938 01:08:53,337 --> 01:08:54,755 We're trying to make an image right now! 939 01:08:54,839 --> 01:08:57,883 Can we just pace things a little bit? 940 01:08:58,634 --> 01:09:00,261 Well no, first of all. 941 01:09:00,970 --> 01:09:02,096 Shep, close the door! 942 01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:03,514 Oh, my God! 943 01:09:03,889 --> 01:09:05,933 Can we start Michael?! You don't have to start... 944 01:09:06,016 --> 01:09:07,184 Let's wait for Michael 945 01:09:07,518 --> 01:09:09,854 Can we just go on our little trajectories 946 01:09:09,937 --> 01:09:11,897 and you know meet up in 20 minutes? 947 01:09:12,982 --> 01:09:13,816 No. 948 01:09:13,899 --> 01:09:16,318 I just think it's like a big moment, 949 01:09:16,485 --> 01:09:20,114 and I think for me, I'm just saying, like, 950 01:09:20,948 --> 01:09:23,242 I think it'd be fun for us all to do the first one together, 951 01:09:23,325 --> 01:09:27,663 see that shit, and then go off in our own little ways and fix it. 952 01:09:27,830 --> 01:09:31,000 I think it's just so exciting that you-- do you want to do it alone? 953 01:09:31,083 --> 01:09:34,670 I'd like to see it all together so we can kind of get some idea of the data. 954 01:09:34,795 --> 01:09:35,629 Are we ready? 955 01:09:35,713 --> 01:09:36,922 Ready. 956 01:09:37,006 --> 01:09:38,674 It's not gonna work at all! 957 01:09:38,757 --> 01:09:40,634 Enhance, enhance, enhance! 958 01:09:41,135 --> 01:09:41,969 Ready? 959 01:09:42,344 --> 01:09:43,179 Set. 960 01:09:43,762 --> 01:09:44,597 Go! 961 01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:47,099 Oh, my God! Oh, my God we pressed go! 962 01:09:48,809 --> 01:09:50,269 It's just a waffle. 963 01:09:51,604 --> 01:09:54,815 Ah! That looks really, really interesting. 964 01:09:58,819 --> 01:10:00,070 How's the waffling going? 965 01:10:00,321 --> 01:10:01,822 Andrew's looks beautiful but... 966 01:10:02,656 --> 01:10:04,992 there's no tweaking involved. 967 01:10:06,368 --> 01:10:08,621 I put compactness very high. 968 01:10:10,623 --> 01:10:13,667 Daniel and I were both getting something like this, with-- 969 01:10:14,919 --> 01:10:16,587 That's what I get when I use only closure. 970 01:10:16,670 --> 01:10:17,588 Only closure? 971 01:10:17,671 --> 01:10:19,173 Oh, my God, look at the chi squareds! 972 01:10:20,174 --> 01:10:21,258 That's pretty good! 973 01:10:22,426 --> 01:10:24,929 And then this is, after a few more iterations, 974 01:10:25,137 --> 01:10:27,932 it smooths it out and gets rid of some of the extended junk. 975 01:10:28,015 --> 01:10:29,683 This is all on low-band? - Yeah 976 01:10:29,767 --> 01:10:31,268 Is this only one day? 977 01:10:31,644 --> 01:10:32,561 This only one day? 978 01:10:33,270 --> 01:10:34,104 You know what โ€“ 979 01:10:34,188 --> 01:10:35,397 That's pretty suggestive. 980 01:10:36,273 --> 01:10:37,608 Well, it seems-- 981 01:10:37,691 --> 01:10:39,276 Did you remove these outliers in the amplitude? 982 01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:40,611 I didn't touch anything. 983 01:10:41,111 --> 01:10:45,449 That is very cool guys. It's really, really cool. 984 01:10:45,532 --> 01:10:46,617 Wait, which one is that? 985 01:10:46,700 --> 01:10:47,701 This is Katie's image. 986 01:10:48,369 --> 01:10:50,037 See it looks different though, 987 01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:53,749 because you guys have a bright spot more on this side. 988 01:10:53,832 --> 01:10:55,209 Okay, seriously?! 989 01:10:55,459 --> 01:10:59,505 Look, we're all getting kind of a crescent that's about the right size-- 990 01:11:00,965 --> 01:11:03,217 So what is the size on that, it's like-- 991 01:11:03,300 --> 01:11:04,301 This is about 40. 992 01:11:05,761 --> 01:11:10,641 That's when you expect if M87 has six billion solar masses. 993 01:11:10,891 --> 01:11:12,142 That's a high mass case. 994 01:11:12,268 --> 01:11:15,813 You know what this is? This is a scale to weigh black holes. 995 01:11:15,896 --> 01:11:18,232 Okay, seriously if we can get anything that looks remotely 996 01:11:18,315 --> 01:11:19,692 like that on all the days-- 997 01:11:19,775 --> 01:11:21,610 Guys, the only way anyone's leaving this room 998 01:11:21,694 --> 01:11:23,821 is if everybody gets over there so we take a picture. 999 01:11:23,904 --> 01:11:25,239 It could have been awful! 1000 01:11:25,322 --> 01:11:27,491 Am I short enough that I can just stand here? 1001 01:11:30,411 --> 01:11:31,787 And you got to get the thing! 1002 01:11:33,330 --> 01:11:34,915 We're at a point now 1003 01:11:35,207 --> 01:11:37,918 where things could inadvertently go south. 1004 01:11:38,711 --> 01:11:40,713 Okay, so I took a picture on my phone, 1005 01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:43,173 of something on the screen. 1006 01:11:43,382 --> 01:11:45,634 See you guys tomorrow, we'll do some more imaging tomorrow. 1007 01:11:45,718 --> 01:11:48,012 All it's gonna take is for one of these images 1008 01:11:48,679 --> 01:11:50,889 to be texted to the wrong person, 1009 01:11:51,015 --> 01:11:54,059 people will look at it, they will measure it off of a screen, 1010 01:11:54,143 --> 01:11:55,477 they'll go write a paper. 1011 01:11:56,061 --> 01:11:57,354 I guarantee you. 1012 01:11:58,022 --> 01:12:01,275 There has to be an absolute, 100% embargo. 1013 01:12:02,651 --> 01:12:05,738 No one outside the EHT collaboration can see anything, 1014 01:12:06,947 --> 01:12:08,574 anything that happens here 1015 01:12:09,491 --> 01:12:11,493 can never leave Team One. 1016 01:12:13,203 --> 01:12:14,997 This is pretty wild. 1017 01:12:15,539 --> 01:12:17,207 It's all wrong, I'm sure it's all wrong, 1018 01:12:17,291 --> 01:12:19,251 but if that works out, 1019 01:12:19,877 --> 01:12:22,004 it's pretty amazing. 1020 01:12:49,615 --> 01:12:50,657 Things are going well. 1021 01:12:52,785 --> 01:12:56,872 We think that we have managed to do this part of the project. 1022 01:13:03,295 --> 01:13:04,380 We've managed to get 1023 01:13:05,422 --> 01:13:08,217 our target answer of 12J. 1024 01:13:11,095 --> 01:13:12,513 There's a little bit left to do. 1025 01:13:24,691 --> 01:13:28,737 I think the only thing that matters is 3.5. 1026 01:13:29,446 --> 01:13:31,073 3.5? - Yeah. 1027 01:13:35,953 --> 01:13:36,829 Good to see you. 1028 01:13:38,455 --> 01:13:39,456 Hey Sasha! 1029 01:13:39,540 --> 01:13:41,125 Oh hey, you're here already! 1030 01:13:41,333 --> 01:13:44,420 Yeah, we've already done like five pages of calculations, 1031 01:13:44,503 --> 01:13:45,337 you're late! 1032 01:13:50,259 --> 01:13:52,469 You're allowed to put your stuff away and go to the bathroom. 1033 01:13:53,178 --> 01:13:55,514 That's alright, I'm needed. 1034 01:13:55,597 --> 01:13:57,307 No time for that! - Nope. 1035 01:13:59,810 --> 01:14:01,353 Okay, uh... 1036 01:14:01,562 --> 01:14:05,107 So where are we at? Like, what still needs to be done? 1037 01:14:05,858 --> 01:14:09,153 The only things I see now... - Mm-hmm. 1038 01:14:09,236 --> 01:14:13,323 is understanding this G plus minus to the P. 1039 01:14:13,490 --> 01:14:15,159 Yep. - Right. And the past horizon. 1040 01:14:15,742 --> 01:14:17,828 And the past horizon. Does anybody see anything else? 1041 01:14:17,911 --> 01:14:18,829 No, that's it. 1042 01:14:22,416 --> 01:14:24,126 Back at Brinsop, one year on. 1043 01:14:25,294 --> 01:14:27,171 Last year we thought it'd be pretty plain sailing, 1044 01:14:27,546 --> 01:14:29,673 we would spend a few more weeks then we'd just 1045 01:14:29,756 --> 01:14:31,925 sum up all these terms and get the answer we wanted. 1046 01:14:32,009 --> 01:14:34,011 And then over the course of last year, 1047 01:14:34,094 --> 01:14:36,513 we realized actually it's so much more complicated than that. 1048 01:14:36,597 --> 01:14:38,724 Tleft, over Tright plus Tleft 1049 01:14:39,057 --> 01:14:42,227 We found there were millions of terms and it was never going be a two-week job, 1050 01:14:42,311 --> 01:14:45,147 and we got out computers for the first time, and that didn't work. 1051 01:14:46,648 --> 01:14:47,816 One over Y. 1052 01:14:48,984 --> 01:14:52,196 And then, what we realized is that you can actually break this equation we had, 1053 01:14:52,279 --> 01:14:55,532 we could break it down into an integrable part, and a non-integrable part. 1054 01:14:55,741 --> 01:14:57,034 I think that was the breakthrough. 1055 01:14:58,243 --> 01:14:59,578 We had to realize that 1056 01:14:59,661 --> 01:15:01,413 we had almost everything we needed, 1057 01:15:01,747 --> 01:15:02,998 but there was somehow 1058 01:15:03,624 --> 01:15:05,334 a few terms got lost I guess. 1059 01:15:05,417 --> 01:15:06,585 N, D, here 1060 01:15:06,668 --> 01:15:07,961 What we've discovered is that 1061 01:15:08,921 --> 01:15:11,965 the equation is the sum of the variation of the inertia charge 1062 01:15:12,341 --> 01:15:15,802 and the variation of the angular velocity of the horizon. 1063 01:15:16,178 --> 01:15:19,223 Which, when evaluated you get 12J. 1064 01:15:20,349 --> 01:15:22,017 Before, we just had a few of the terms 1065 01:15:22,100 --> 01:15:23,936 involved in the angular velocity of the horizon. 1066 01:15:24,853 --> 01:15:27,689 And without the full thing, it wasn't integrable. 1067 01:15:29,858 --> 01:15:32,277 Now we've found a nice physical picture 1068 01:15:32,361 --> 01:15:34,655 and a nice way of getting 12J 1069 01:15:35,072 --> 01:15:36,657 and now's the final, you know, 1070 01:15:36,823 --> 01:15:38,825 finishing touches, to make sure that we really believe in it. 1071 01:15:42,538 --> 01:15:45,832 I'm just very sad that Stephen won't be able to see this through to the end. 1072 01:15:46,583 --> 01:15:48,210 He would have been really, really excited. 1073 01:15:52,631 --> 01:15:54,174 It's weird how personal 1074 01:15:55,592 --> 01:15:56,927 physics can become. 1075 01:15:58,303 --> 01:16:03,350 One of the saddest things about Stephen's passing in the middle of this is that 1076 01:16:04,351 --> 01:16:06,061 if it works we can't tell him. 1077 01:16:07,020 --> 01:16:08,355 One bottle in front... 1078 01:16:12,442 --> 01:16:13,277 To Stephen. 1079 01:16:13,819 --> 01:16:14,861 To Stephen. 1080 01:16:15,153 --> 01:16:19,575 One of the impressive and wonderful things about Stephen, 1081 01:16:20,033 --> 01:16:21,660 was how much he really... 1082 01:16:22,494 --> 01:16:26,999 cared... about-- about these questions. 1083 01:16:30,961 --> 01:16:34,006 We know that it's somehow very different inside a black hole. 1084 01:16:34,631 --> 01:16:38,802 And so the prize is a really big one if you figure it out. 1085 01:16:41,847 --> 01:16:43,265 The nature of spacetime. 1086 01:16:47,060 --> 01:16:48,103 That's about right. 1087 01:16:51,690 --> 01:16:55,819 Hawking handed us the biggest clue that we have. 1088 01:16:58,196 --> 01:17:00,949 If this project we're on now 1089 01:17:02,993 --> 01:17:06,538 works, it will be like a giant sign post, 1090 01:17:06,622 --> 01:17:08,165 "there's gold in this direction." 1091 01:17:10,917 --> 01:17:12,919 You look up in the night sky 1092 01:17:13,712 --> 01:17:16,048 and of course you don't see them. 1093 01:17:18,300 --> 01:17:19,801 But you know they're up there. 1094 01:17:21,345 --> 01:17:22,763 Almost mocking us: 1095 01:17:24,765 --> 01:17:26,391 "try and figure me out." 1096 01:17:36,443 --> 01:17:37,778 I just want to check my audio. 1097 01:17:37,861 --> 01:17:39,363 Can you hear me? 1098 01:17:39,696 --> 01:17:40,864 Yeah, I can hear you. 1099 01:17:40,947 --> 01:17:42,616 Hi Monica, can you hear us? - I can hear you. Hello! 1100 01:17:42,699 --> 01:17:44,576 Okay, so I just want to start, 1101 01:17:44,660 --> 01:17:50,040 the first telecon actually showing the first images of M87. 1102 01:17:50,582 --> 01:17:52,626 All images are very consistent, 1103 01:17:52,918 --> 01:17:54,878 there is a shadow-like feature. 1104 01:17:55,545 --> 01:17:57,881 Really really encouraging results. 1105 01:17:59,841 --> 01:18:02,928 Wow, it worked. I mean, it definitely worked. 1106 01:18:03,845 --> 01:18:04,805 We see the ring, 1107 01:18:06,390 --> 01:18:09,893 and then you've got to be very skeptical, actually. 1108 01:18:09,976 --> 01:18:11,478 You know, I would love to see that thing 1109 01:18:11,561 --> 01:18:13,689 and that's what makes me very suspicious 1110 01:18:13,772 --> 01:18:15,357 about myself and what I see. 1111 01:18:15,691 --> 01:18:19,152 I think it's okay to call that a shadow feature, if you like, 1112 01:18:19,486 --> 01:18:20,737 as you see in the middle, 1113 01:18:20,821 --> 01:18:24,408 but we should be really careful of what we think we see. 1114 01:18:24,491 --> 01:18:26,702 Are we going to see other teams' images? 1115 01:18:26,785 --> 01:18:27,953 No, no, no, no. 1116 01:18:28,036 --> 01:18:32,916 When we meet at imaging workshop to inspect images from each team-- 1117 01:18:33,250 --> 01:18:34,918 I could not sleep last night 1118 01:18:35,168 --> 01:18:36,461 because I was so excited. 1119 01:18:36,545 --> 01:18:40,507 I mean, I've waited for this data set and this image for eight years. 1120 01:18:41,049 --> 01:18:44,219 I'm really happy that we're all getting pretty consistent results, 1121 01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,264 and I'm excited to see what the other teams are doing. 1122 01:18:47,472 --> 01:18:49,725 We all kept pretty good secrets. 1123 01:18:52,144 --> 01:18:57,107 Imaging Team Three has been doing mostly the standard technique 1124 01:18:57,232 --> 01:18:59,860 where we use this algorithm called Clean. 1125 01:19:01,820 --> 01:19:06,283 We have about half a dozen individuals on the team who are making the images. 1126 01:19:07,117 --> 01:19:10,579 The central part of the image we're in general agreement on. 1127 01:19:12,456 --> 01:19:15,375 It'll be interesting to see what the other teams using "maximum entropy" 1128 01:19:15,500 --> 01:19:16,543 and some of the other methods, 1129 01:19:17,377 --> 01:19:18,545 what they got next week. 1130 01:19:20,088 --> 01:19:21,923 We hope that they will be consistent. 1131 01:19:23,091 --> 01:19:25,218 We're trying to be very, very careful about it. 1132 01:19:25,427 --> 01:19:29,681 The worse thing would be to say that we've seen black hole shadow 1133 01:19:29,765 --> 01:19:32,267 and then find out later it was an imaging artifact. 1134 01:19:34,686 --> 01:19:36,480 Right now within Team One, 1135 01:19:36,563 --> 01:19:39,191 we feel pretty confident in the structures that we're getting. 1136 01:19:40,692 --> 01:19:43,236 We are feeling pretty good about our consistency in our images, 1137 01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:46,615 but we haven't seen anything from the other teams, so, 1138 01:19:46,823 --> 01:19:48,575 it's possible that everything will be... a complete-- 1139 01:19:49,534 --> 01:19:51,369 a complete mess when comparing between the teams. 1140 01:19:51,453 --> 01:19:54,915 And I'm a little scared for: what is our plan moving forward, 1141 01:19:54,998 --> 01:19:56,875 if we do get different images? - Yeah. 1142 01:20:04,007 --> 01:20:04,966 Good morning! 1143 01:20:05,050 --> 01:20:06,301 How's it going. - Pretty good. 1144 01:20:21,066 --> 01:20:22,192 Okay, I look forward to it. 1145 01:20:23,276 --> 01:20:24,277 Hey! - Hey. 1146 01:20:24,361 --> 01:20:25,737 Nice to meet you finally. 1147 01:20:26,321 --> 01:20:27,197 I'm Katie. 1148 01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:28,490 Nice to meet you! 1149 01:20:29,032 --> 01:20:30,534 Thanks for coming all this way! 1150 01:20:41,211 --> 01:20:43,004 This is an incredibly exciting moment. 1151 01:20:43,421 --> 01:20:45,090 For the first time we're gonna see if 1152 01:20:45,173 --> 01:20:47,175 all the teams are seeing the same basic structure. 1153 01:20:47,259 --> 01:20:49,636 have not seen any of the results from anywhere else. 1154 01:20:49,719 --> 01:20:53,557 So this is really a Christmas, Hanukkah moment, right? 1155 01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:57,477 This is when you unpack, this is when you open up the gifts you know. 1156 01:20:57,602 --> 01:20:59,521 Did you get a pony? I don't know. 1157 01:20:59,604 --> 01:21:03,275 And then I self-calibrated and then amplitude plus closure phase. 1158 01:21:03,358 --> 01:21:04,359 Okay 1159 01:21:04,442 --> 01:21:06,736 I had a little bit goosebumps. 1160 01:21:07,487 --> 01:21:11,783 I've been waiting for this moment for like ten years. 1161 01:21:12,492 --> 01:21:15,120 I've been modeling black holes for ten years, 1162 01:21:15,579 --> 01:21:18,707 and finally it becomes real. 1163 01:21:18,790 --> 01:21:20,333 Let's see what we could do 1164 01:21:20,417 --> 01:21:23,628 if we were to just use the exact same script 1165 01:21:23,712 --> 01:21:26,172 without changing anything, without any fine tuning, 1166 01:21:26,256 --> 01:21:28,300 to see what it will do. 1167 01:21:28,383 --> 01:21:30,343 Okay. That would be very interesting to see. 1168 01:21:30,427 --> 01:21:33,763 Just out of curiosity. To see if we can come up with one script 1169 01:21:33,847 --> 01:21:34,764 that could consistently... 1170 01:21:34,848 --> 01:21:36,683 all on microarcsecond scale. 1171 01:21:36,766 --> 01:21:40,520 So it does seem like kind of filling in the vacuum with more. 1172 01:21:41,438 --> 01:21:45,358 So I guess we have two options for response to zero baseline. 1173 01:21:45,483 --> 01:21:48,695 And in both it's producing more or less the same image, right? 1174 01:21:48,778 --> 01:21:51,656 It doesn't make any sense to use it in that. 1175 01:21:51,740 --> 01:21:55,243 It does actually, they do bring extra information. 1176 01:21:55,452 --> 01:21:58,413 But it could be completely extraneous information 1177 01:21:58,496 --> 01:22:01,583 Michael, I still haven't received an image from Team Three, should I bug them? 1178 01:22:02,083 --> 01:22:03,001 Okay. 1179 01:22:04,753 --> 01:22:07,130 Then it's going to be much much worse-- - Okay. 1180 01:22:07,213 --> 01:22:08,214 Sorry, real quick. 1181 01:22:08,381 --> 01:22:10,425 How much longer do you need before you're ready? 1182 01:22:11,509 --> 01:22:13,845 Um, I don't know... 1183 01:22:14,262 --> 01:22:15,430 Like 15 minutes? 1184 01:22:15,513 --> 01:22:17,182 Sure, if everything goes smoothly here, 15 minutes. 1185 01:22:17,265 --> 01:22:18,892 How long does Team Three need? 1186 01:22:19,351 --> 01:22:21,269 Couple of minutes if it is working. 1187 01:22:21,353 --> 01:22:22,270 Let's just do that, 1188 01:22:22,354 --> 01:22:24,189 you can see the numbers, if they look fine to you... 1189 01:22:24,272 --> 01:22:25,106 Okay. 1190 01:22:34,699 --> 01:22:35,617 Hey, I-- 1191 01:22:35,700 --> 01:22:37,369 I'm ready. I'm ready, yeah. 1192 01:22:44,334 --> 01:22:49,005 All right, so first we did a normalized cross-correlation comparison 1193 01:22:49,089 --> 01:22:50,632 between all of the images. 1194 01:22:50,882 --> 01:22:55,595 A value of one is going to be a perfect consistency between two images, 1195 01:22:55,679 --> 01:22:57,389 zero is pretty bad. 1196 01:22:57,931 --> 01:23:01,184 So are we ready for the moment of truth? 1197 01:23:03,019 --> 01:23:05,021 Okay, I will scroll down. 1198 01:23:05,230 --> 01:23:06,231 Oh, my God. 1199 01:23:06,356 --> 01:23:07,732 Look at that. 1200 01:23:07,816 --> 01:23:09,317 Wow! 1201 01:23:13,279 --> 01:23:14,698 It's M87! 1202 01:23:16,700 --> 01:23:19,661 We compared, basically pixel by pixel, 1203 01:23:19,744 --> 01:23:21,204 you know, how close the images were. 1204 01:23:23,498 --> 01:23:25,917 We haven't talked at all among the teams, 1205 01:23:26,001 --> 01:23:28,378 but these numbers tell us that despite that, 1206 01:23:28,461 --> 01:23:31,089 we're all broadly seeing the exact same structure, 1207 01:23:31,172 --> 01:23:32,799 so it's really promising. 1208 01:23:38,596 --> 01:23:40,348 It was surprisingly emotional. 1209 01:23:41,683 --> 01:23:43,935 You know it from a mathematical point of view 1210 01:23:44,019 --> 01:23:47,063 and we've been looking at pictures quite similar to that from our own models. 1211 01:23:47,605 --> 01:23:51,401 But when you look at it and you have to tell yourself that it's actually data, 1212 01:23:51,693 --> 01:23:55,905 that you're not seeing a simulation but you're really looking at a black hole. 1213 01:23:56,031 --> 01:23:59,492 I found myself just with my cell phone staring at it for hours. 1214 01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:03,913 What's going to have to happen now is, 1215 01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:06,833 the whole collaboration has to come together and agree. 1216 01:24:11,755 --> 01:24:13,673 It's the same latitude as ALMA 1217 01:24:15,091 --> 01:24:17,552 This is a very, very critical phase of the project. 1218 01:24:18,636 --> 01:24:21,347 We have to bring very different people with very different backgrounds 1219 01:24:21,431 --> 01:24:23,767 together to agree on something that 1220 01:24:24,684 --> 01:24:29,981 will be work representative of 200, 250 people. 1221 01:24:30,190 --> 01:24:32,317 That's a great question. 1222 01:24:32,525 --> 01:24:34,569 I think that what would be best-- 1223 01:24:34,944 --> 01:24:37,322 It's very easy to lose your credibility. 1224 01:24:37,655 --> 01:24:41,242 And the Event Horizon Telescope has built up credibility over many years. 1225 01:24:42,744 --> 01:24:44,162 We have to get it right. 1226 01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:50,210 How do you decide what's the key essence? 1227 01:24:51,002 --> 01:24:52,545 What do we all agree on? 1228 01:24:53,171 --> 01:24:55,590 This has been a discussion and it's been contentious. 1229 01:24:56,257 --> 01:24:58,301 And it's probably not fully decided. 1230 01:25:01,179 --> 01:25:03,098 Yes, we do want to have a... 1231 01:25:03,973 --> 01:25:04,933 a single image, 1232 01:25:05,016 --> 01:25:06,935 but we do want to show the variations as well. 1233 01:25:07,018 --> 01:25:08,603 Yes, it's a compromise we have to come up with. 1234 01:25:08,728 --> 01:25:12,232 Something that works. That thing that works. 1235 01:25:12,482 --> 01:25:14,776 I think it's not what we want to show, 1236 01:25:14,859 --> 01:25:18,279 I think we should go for the best data set 1237 01:25:18,363 --> 01:25:20,698 and the best image of this, 1238 01:25:21,032 --> 01:25:24,202 easily reproducible for anybody who wants to do it again. 1239 01:25:24,536 --> 01:25:26,579 I kind of like the average image 1240 01:25:26,704 --> 01:25:29,457 but since it's not consistent with any data, 1241 01:25:29,541 --> 01:25:33,753 are we going to use this image to do for instance a parameter estimation? 1242 01:25:37,382 --> 01:25:40,927 Everybody came in with their own funding, their own expectations, 1243 01:25:41,511 --> 01:25:43,638 so it is all about convincing each other 1244 01:25:43,721 --> 01:25:46,224 and coercing each other to find one way forward. 1245 01:25:46,307 --> 01:25:52,355 I mean, do you think there are unmodeled systematics-- in the synthetic data... 1246 01:25:52,438 --> 01:25:53,898 That made it very democratic, 1247 01:25:54,149 --> 01:25:55,775 but it's not easy, 1248 01:25:56,192 --> 01:25:57,777 I will not lie. 1249 01:26:11,708 --> 01:26:15,211 I think the dream of any physicist who studies black holes 1250 01:26:16,588 --> 01:26:20,175 is to be able to go through the horizon and to the other side. 1251 01:26:26,639 --> 01:26:28,516 If I could take this trip, 1252 01:26:30,351 --> 01:26:32,770 having decided that I've had enough of this world, 1253 01:26:34,814 --> 01:26:35,857 what would I see? 1254 01:26:45,617 --> 01:26:48,494 Just as ancient explorers were drawn to the sea, 1255 01:26:49,495 --> 01:26:51,039 we're drawn to the horizon. 1256 01:26:54,959 --> 01:26:58,129 We're drawn always to the limits. 1257 01:27:03,676 --> 01:27:05,470 The horizon of a black hole 1258 01:27:07,013 --> 01:27:10,350 is the edge of our knowledge, 1259 01:27:11,309 --> 01:27:13,937 of our understanding of the universe. 1260 01:27:16,940 --> 01:27:21,527 And the great exciting problem is to go beyond that edge. 1261 01:27:27,867 --> 01:27:28,952 That's the ultimate. 1262 01:27:29,744 --> 01:27:33,331 That's the place where there's no "beyond". 1263 01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:42,548 It's something that doesn't exist 1264 01:27:42,632 --> 01:27:46,469 as a physical, measurable part of the universe. 1265 01:27:48,054 --> 01:27:51,182 But you personally could still go there and experience it. 1266 01:27:54,477 --> 01:27:56,229 But you cannot tell anybody. 1267 01:27:58,606 --> 01:28:00,775 And you don't exist anymore to the outside world. 1268 01:28:05,154 --> 01:28:07,991 People always make the link intuitively to death. 1269 01:28:42,483 --> 01:28:44,902 There they are! Smiling! 1270 01:28:45,278 --> 01:28:46,446 It's nice to see you again. 1271 01:28:46,529 --> 01:28:49,073 Miss you guys, miss you guys. 1272 01:28:49,198 --> 01:28:51,284 So we're free. 1273 01:28:53,036 --> 01:28:55,204 We've finished the paper. 1274 01:28:56,998 --> 01:28:58,791 That's why everybody's smiling. 1275 01:28:59,125 --> 01:29:00,835 I'm feeling pretty good. 1276 01:29:01,294 --> 01:29:03,588 I must say I'm feeling amazingly good. 1277 01:29:03,838 --> 01:29:08,009 Simply because it has taken an amazingly long time to actually get done. 1278 01:29:08,092 --> 01:29:10,136 It's a great relief. 1279 01:29:10,595 --> 01:29:12,555 It's nice to be able to... 1280 01:29:13,056 --> 01:29:14,849 to think about the bigger picture a bit more, 1281 01:29:14,974 --> 01:29:18,144 I feel like, I spent a lot of time getting really bogged down in-- 1282 01:29:18,311 --> 01:29:19,479 You feel liberated. 1283 01:29:19,562 --> 01:29:22,690 Yeah, I feel liberated, to be able to work out more what's going on, 1284 01:29:22,774 --> 01:29:26,402 and I feel like the result we have is very compelling. 1285 01:29:27,487 --> 01:29:32,325 We've shown that the soft hair can account 1286 01:29:33,076 --> 01:29:37,205 for all the information that's stored in a black hole. 1287 01:29:38,706 --> 01:29:42,210 But we have to be very smart about what to do next. 1288 01:29:42,668 --> 01:29:44,420 Yeah, absolutely right. 1289 01:29:44,504 --> 01:29:47,256 The big challenge is trying to show 1290 01:29:47,799 --> 01:29:49,675 not only that this could happen, 1291 01:29:49,759 --> 01:29:52,762 but that it does happen. And that there's a mechanism 1292 01:29:52,887 --> 01:29:57,475 for the flow of information in and out of the black hole. 1293 01:29:58,851 --> 01:30:01,437 That is a much more complicated problem. 1294 01:30:02,146 --> 01:30:04,107 That's what Stephen would want us to be doing. 1295 01:30:06,859 --> 01:30:10,863 Are you coming to the-- this press release on the 15th? 1296 01:30:14,075 --> 01:30:16,828 I'm, I'm hesitating. 1297 01:30:33,928 --> 01:30:35,221 Well, good afternoon. 1298 01:30:35,638 --> 01:30:39,642 Welcome to the press launch of the final book by Professor Stephen Hawking. 1299 01:30:40,309 --> 01:30:44,522 Now, up until his death he continued to search for answers with his final paper, 1300 01:30:44,647 --> 01:30:47,275 a work with his long-time collaborators, 1301 01:30:47,525 --> 01:30:50,236 Professors Malcolm Perry and Andy Strominger, 1302 01:30:50,319 --> 01:30:54,866 on one of the most puzzling problems facing the scientific community today, 1303 01:30:54,991 --> 01:30:56,993 the information paradox. 1304 01:30:57,743 --> 01:31:01,664 So Malcolm, Andy, give us a capsule summary of the paper. 1305 01:31:01,747 --> 01:31:04,083 Yeah, you know, it's a huge problem 1306 01:31:04,333 --> 01:31:06,961 that Stephen gave to us. 1307 01:31:07,795 --> 01:31:10,256 It took 50 years to understand 1308 01:31:10,381 --> 01:31:13,801 what a black hole was before you started worrying about quantum... 1309 01:31:13,885 --> 01:31:16,179 It'll be a decade before we know 1310 01:31:16,262 --> 01:31:19,515 whether this path is gonna get us where we want to go. 1311 01:31:20,349 --> 01:31:22,560 We also don't know that it can't. 1312 01:31:23,311 --> 01:31:28,065 And, I also have to confess, not very scientific of me, 1313 01:31:29,025 --> 01:31:30,610 it has the right feel. 1314 01:31:32,653 --> 01:31:37,074 I'm very excited to be part of this grand adventure. 1315 01:31:42,038 --> 01:31:44,749 To Stephen. - To Stephen. 1316 01:31:45,041 --> 01:31:47,376 To soft hair. - To soft hair. 1317 01:31:48,669 --> 01:31:51,756 And to the demise of the information paradox. 1318 01:31:52,798 --> 01:31:54,300 And to the next paper. 1319 01:31:57,595 --> 01:31:58,721 It's a great life. 1320 01:31:59,847 --> 01:32:01,557 It's what life is about. 1321 01:32:54,026 --> 01:32:56,654 I feel the same way. 1322 01:33:06,831 --> 01:33:09,292 Welcome to today's press conference. 1323 01:33:09,375 --> 01:33:12,670 Brought to you by the National Science Foundation and the Event Horizon-- 1324 01:33:12,753 --> 01:33:14,088 Good afternoon. 1325 01:33:14,171 --> 01:33:17,883 We have very little time before the actual announcement goes live 1326 01:33:17,967 --> 01:33:21,887 across the globe, in six simultaneous press conferences, so I will-- 1327 01:33:21,971 --> 01:33:25,933 Buenos dias a todos, today is an extraordinary day for astronomy. 1328 01:33:30,521 --> 01:33:36,527 What you're seeing here is the result of many, many people working together. 1329 01:33:37,695 --> 01:33:39,280 Thank you, assembled guests, 1330 01:33:39,363 --> 01:33:40,906 black hole enthusiasts. 1331 01:33:41,115 --> 01:33:44,577 Black holes are the most mysterious objects in the universe. 1332 01:33:45,328 --> 01:33:47,413 Now, we are members of a large collaboration. 1333 01:33:47,997 --> 01:33:51,542 We are 200 members strong, we have 60 institutes, 1334 01:33:51,834 --> 01:33:54,211 and we are working in over 20 countries and regions. 1335 01:33:54,920 --> 01:33:56,672 We worked for over a decade 1336 01:33:56,756 --> 01:34:00,009 to expose part of the universe that was invisible to us before. 1337 01:34:00,843 --> 01:34:04,055 And we are delighted to be able to report to you today 1338 01:34:04,305 --> 01:34:07,391 that we have seen what we thought was unseeable. 1339 01:34:08,642 --> 01:34:12,730 We have seen, and taken a picture of, a black hole. 1340 01:34:15,107 --> 01:34:16,192 Here it is. 1341 01:34:19,862 --> 01:34:23,616 We now have visual evidence for the existence of a black hole. 1342 01:34:24,533 --> 01:34:25,576 We now know that 1343 01:34:25,659 --> 01:34:28,829 a black hole that weighs 6.5 billion times what our sun does 1344 01:34:28,913 --> 01:34:31,165 exists in the center of M87. 108466

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