All language subtitles for Indian Predator The Butcher of Delhi S01E03_track3_[eng]

When Chandrakant would visit us

he would tell us about
his activities in Delhi.

And people from the village
who worked with him

also told us stories about
what he did in Delhi.

Chandrakant said that
he likes to live dangerously.

"Kill or be killed."

"That's our game."

He started committing murders
after moving to Delhi.

When news started spreading
in Delhi about Chandrakant

and the murders that
he was committing there,

he blatantly played with people's lives.

He showed no mercy to anyone.

If the whole village is
afraid to talk about it,

and if he himself says that he'll go crazy

if he doesn't commit a murder,

that means it must have been
much more in number.

And much more
must have happened in his life.

All of them must have remained undetected.

People would say that
he has murdered around 44 people.

But we don't really know the true count

because we did not see him doing it.

GHOSAI VILLAGE

Chandrakant was a clever boy.

He was cunning

from the very beginning.

He eventually began committing murders.

He specifically despised people who lied.

Those who lied to him

ended up getting killed.

He never spared anyone,
no matter who it was.

Chandrakant has also killed
some of his fellow villagers.

When I learned that Chandrakant
was committing murders in Delhi,

I began keeping my distance from him.

He also murdered two people
in the neighborhood.

It made us realize that we needed
to keep our distance from him.

He killed Umesh Jha, an innocent man.

He also killed a man named Kapooridas.

Kapooridas was a decent man.

He ran a garment business.

He was a man of honor
who worked hard to earn money.

He had no bad habits.

Once Champadevi, Chandrakant,
and his brother Kalanand

went over to Kapooridas' house.

They took me along with them.

They had an argument
related to a piece of land.

After having a conversation
at length with Kapooridas,

Chandrakant lost his cool.

He threatened Kapooridas.

One evening, Kapooridas stepped out

to run some errands in the market.

Chandrakant and his brother
were already there hiding in the bushes

waiting for Kapooridas to arrive.

As soon as they saw
Kapooridas coming towards them,

they had an altercation with him.

And then, they shot him.

Kapooridas lost his life.

He might even kill me someday
just like he killed Muralidhar in Delhi.

Word spread here

that Chandrakant
murdered Muralidhar in Delhi.

I must say that Chandrakant
was courageous and fearless.

He was extremely gutsy.

He worked as a laborer back then in Delhi.

He would lift and carry weights.

He knew a lot of people there
as he used to live there.

He used to drive a rickshaw.

Back then, he would
loot televisions from showrooms.

He would enter the market
at night, break into the stores,

carry out robberies,
and drop out of sight.

Back then,

I was a part of these doings
along with Chandrakant Jha

and another man named
Chandan Kumar Mishra.

I even served time
for three and a half years in jail.

After that, I vowed
not to do this kind of work.

He even tried to kill me once.

I refused to carry out robberies with him.

I decided to continue working
where I used to work previously.

I told him I'd rather
work hard all day than steal with him.

He didn't quite like
what I told him, so he tried to kill me.

But before he could do anything
to me, I jumped off the building.

I thought I'd rather have a broken arm
or leg than end up getting killed by him.

So…

He was despicable and dangerous.

There's one thing I'm very sure of.

I don't think he must have
gone in search of victims.

He must have screened
the people that he met on a regular basis

and figured who was
going to be his next likely victim.

And then he must have groomed them.

That is what it looks like.

In that grooming process,

the emotional relationship
with the victim was

more clear in the sense that,
"I am somebody who has control over you."

Maybe he figured how many days
he would have to groom them.

He probably decided
when their last day would be

and how everything was to be handled.

He probably did it in such a manner

that it looked like
he was giving care to them

and helping them out…

in different forms.

But actually, his intention
was not to do all that.

He was grooming them

to ultimately kill them.

Chandrakant would tie up the victim's
hands and legs before killing them.

He had even tried to forcefully tie me up,

but I refused and got away from there.

That was his pattern of killing someone.

All the things he needed were in his room.

He always used
to kill people only after tying them up.

SITA RAM

Even if I have to be
so brutal in handling somebody,

I would know what it is.

Through my experience, I know how it is

to physically feel brutalized.

You are almost gasping for your own life.

And that is what I have been

seeing when I'm handling
my vulnerable victims,

and where I don't have a bit of remorse.

I may feel guilty,
but I don't have remorse.

That is where he now understands both

the lifeless and the life… Vulnerables.

When they undergo

an extreme amount of violence and torture.

He can very well understand
what they can feel at that time.

My name is Bhidu Jadhav.

I live in Ghosai.

I'm 67 years old.

Chandrakant Jha once told me

that he had rented a house in Mangolpuri.

His former landlord
had asked him to move out.

So, he rented another house
in the same locality

and asked me to help him
with moving his things into that house.

He took me to Mangolpuri

on the pretext
of wanting help in moving out.

When we got there and Chandrakant Jha

opened the door…

I saw Murali Shah sitting in there.

There were two other men as well.

Murali Shah was also a resident
of our village. We knew each other.

But I didn't know
who the other two men were.

Suddenly Chandrakant shouted,
"Bhidu Jadhav!"

"Don't say a word!"

"Do you see what I have done to them?"

"That's what I'm going
to do to you as well."

I was shaken.

He took me into the room

and clicked a picture
of his victims along with me.

Before he could
capture my face, I turned around.

Chandrakant Jha had
maintained a photo album.

In that album,

he had kept photos

of all the people he had murdered.

If he had caught a victim
and there were others in the room,

then he would take
a picture of all of them together.

And if anyone tried to intervene,
they'd also get caught up as accomplices.

No one ever dared to speak up.

I was famished. I hadn't eaten anything.

I asked Chandrakant to get me some food

as he was going to kill me anyway.

And as soon as he stepped out of the house

to bring us some food…

Murali Shah also took

the camera that Chandrakant used.

There was a man named Ashok Shah,

whose brother was killed by Chandrakant.

He too had that album.

This man right here is Murali Shah.

This picture is ruined.

My name is Ashok Shah.

Murali Shah is my elder brother.

Murali Shah had taken the camera

from Chandrakant's house.

While he was alive,

he never thought
of printing out the pictures.

And after he died,

his second wife printed out the pictures.

In all the pictures,

the victims were either gagged

or had wounded eyes.

Their lips were sewed.

Their lips were sealed shut.
It was in the photograph.

You know, these three men in the picture

were all murdered.

It happened in Delhi.

Ashok Shah had shown
the pictures in the album…

to the entire village.

His first interest is
to silence the person.

Silencing either physically

or silencing emotionally.

And silencing them
by killing them was his last resort.

Now there's one thing that I'm afraid of.

I've shared all the information
I had about Chandrakant

till the time I was his victim.

I shared everything that I witnessed

and everything that I experienced.

What if Chandrakant
learns that I ratted him out?

What if he comes after me

once he's out of prison?

I really hope that
he gets sentenced to death

or simply rots in jail till he's dead.

It's unbelievable because I've
never even slapped my child

for doing something wrong.

The album also had
a photograph of the people of our village.

But no one couldn't say anything.

They were afraid that they would
also be framed for murder…

because they were in the picture too.

They were just scared, that's all.

If the whole village
is afraid to talk about it,

and if he himself says that he'll go crazy

if he doesn't commit a murder,

that means it must have been
much more in number.

And much more
must have happened in his life.

All of them must have remained undetected.

See, if three of them could sit like this…

They're physically disabled
to do anything with him.

After all, he's alone.

He's just one single person.

If three individuals can
be controlled that way,

how powerful he must feel?

You create terror in the mind of a person.

Terror, maybe verbally or through actions,

or maybe through communication.

Once the terror is communicated,

half of your work

is already done.

Then he can decide and choose whom he
has to finish and whom he has to let go.

If you could put up this photo
as fresh evidence before the court,

the police can still take back the custody

and the court can order
further investigation.

At least that should be done.

Because once the investigation
process begins to proceed,

many more unidentified

and undisclosed murders may come up.

Well, that will also help Chandrakant

in terms of his own recovery.

It will also help the police
in solving the problem.

But it certainly is fresh evidence.
It has to come up on record.

In a case like this, the accused is

either given life imprisonment
or they're sentenced to death.

We have requested the court
for a minimum sentence,

whereas the prosecution has
requested maximum punishment

as this case falls
in the rarest of rare category.

Chandrakant Jha has been accused
of committing eight murders in Delhi.

He has been convicted
for three of the murders so far.

On Monday, Chandrakant was sentenced
to life imprisonment in one of the cases.

And on Tuesday, he was given
a death sentence for another case.

Chandrakant was alleged
to have killed seven people.

But due to lack of evidence

he has been convicted
only for three murders.

Serial killer Chandrakant Jha has
been sentenced to life imprisonment.

The court has declared this case
as "rare" instead of "rarest of rare."

Chandrakant Jha will be
spending his whole life in prison.

Chandrakant once quoted,

"The Bhagavad Gita says that
it is not a sin to kill a bad person."

"And hence, some
of our wrongdoings aren't really wrong."

When I heard his statement,
I thought that maybe

he said that merely
to justify his actions.

Because as per the prosecution's story,

the people who were murdered

weren't good people either.

Someone was a thief…

Someone was a womanizer…

Someone used to trouble him by eating meat
and leaving unwashed utensils around him.

So, maybe…

he took offense at them.

One of my inferences was that
maybe he is accepting his guilt.

But he never admitted
his mistakes or accepted his guilt openly.

It's not morally correct to be so rigid.

But Chandrakant had extreme opinions
and he was a stubborn man.

When we talk of genetics,

when we say that when he was born,

he genetically inherited,

from his parents,

some amount of violent environment,

violence, and the environment he had seen.

And because of that,
he must have had some kind

of a gene or an allele
in his body which has given rise

to him getting attracted to violence.

He must have had the seed of it there,

but it wouldn't necessarily
grow into a plant…

unless it is nurtured,
nourished, and taken care of.

And this nurturing, nourishing,
and taking care of has happened

in the process of cultural
and social environment conditioning

that has happened with him.

It may be in the prison,
maybe in the custody,

maybe in his own
social environment where he lived

with the kind of people around him.

When we talk about Chandrakant Jha…

I must say that the man already knows
a lot about how investigations are done.

And he has a sharp memory.

All of us have been surprised
at the amount of knowledge he possesses.

He knew that his life was at stake

as he was charged
with three serious murder cases

and he would certainly
be sentenced to death

if he gets convicted in court.

He used to study his own case.

He even asked me to arrange
for some law books for him

that were written in Hindi

so that he could study
and defend his own case.

He used to try and figure
out the entire case but…

there's always a difference
between a layman and a professional.

Some of the questionnaires
he prepared would weaken his case.

Convincing him to refrain
from doing something was very difficult.

He was kept in prison during his trials.
There were no complaints about him.

I had a feeling that
he was doing that intentionally

so that he could use his good behavior
at the time of disposal of the case.

He wanted to show he had a clean record

and that he didn't even
pick a fight with anybody.

He wanted to practice good behavior.

He had a sharp intellect and it seemed
like he had everything figured out.

He was planning everything
he had to prove in court,

and all the possible support
he could get from people.

He kept up good behavior in prison
and also changed his handwriting. So…

He was an intellectual man.

His whole preoccupation
in the jail was just this.

He was going round and round in circles.

So, this meaningful engagement…

According to him, this is
a meaningful engagement

because the day he wins,
he will win over the system as well.

And his identity will be established.

He bought some groceries for me.

He bought me a stove and even water.

He asked me to cook food

while he was gone.

I was done cooking food
and he still hadn't returned home.

My name is Bharati.

Anil Mandal was my husband.

We moved to Delhi with our kids

and started selling garlic
and other vegetables.

My husband sometimes worked in the market,

and sometimes he went
to Punjab for agricultural work.

When I was pregnant with my son,

Anil sent me over
to my parents' house for a few days.

When I came back, I found out that

someone had framed him
for some criminal activity.

When I came back home,
he was locked up in prison.

Someone else had to bail him out.

He returned home in the evening

and told me that he had
to attend a court hearing.

He said, "Cook food for us, Bharati."

"I'm going to the court,
but I'll be back soon."

But he never returned home.

I thought he must have gone somewhere

in search of work or to make some money.

Or maybe he was
put behind bars once again.

I thought he would at least
get enough food in prison,

and he'd come back soon.

I thought if my father was in prison,

he would be alive.

Maybe the police weren't letting him go.

I had to find some work so that
I could bail him out with the money.

That's all that came to my mind.

So, I started working in the market.

I started rag picking.
I would sell bottles.

Sometimes, bottles and plastic bags.

Or scraps of vegetables.

The money that I earned
covered up the house rent

as well as the bribe that
cops took from us for visiting.

I used to earn only around five
to ten rupees after working all day.

I could never earn more than that
no matter how hard I tried.

My mother often visited
the prison to search for my father.

One day, I asked her to take me
along with her to the prison.

So, she used to take me with her.

Every time we went there,

the cops would take money from us
and ask us to wait outside for some time.

The cop then came out after some time
and said that he couldn't let us see Dad,

and told us to visit some other day.

We went to Rohini in search of Anil.

We also stopped by at Tis Hazari Court.

We tried to look for him
in every possible place.

Once every month we would have to spend.

They took at least two thousand or so
every time we went there in search of Dad.

Every time we went to a police station,

they sent us to another one.

It was a never-ending loop.

We were just being played.

It’s only been three years

since the police informed us
that Anil was dead.

They told us that his dead body was found.

We don't know
when this incident took place.

We don't know the time he was murdered

or even the date is unknown.

My mother told me that

Chandrakant Jha killed my father

and left his body
right outside Tis Hazari court.

When the police discovered the body,

they should have at least
let us identify the body once.

If the police had already
made the death certificate,

that means they had identified the body.

It couldn't be made otherwise.

Now we just believe in the certificate
and what the police have told us

-about Anil being murdered.
-Yes.

Couldn't they inform us about it earlier?

What was the big deal in letting us know?

Why did they unnecessarily
make us run from pillar to post?

We are humans too.

-We have stopped thinking about all this.
-Yes.

-We have left it in the past.
-We don't think about it anymore.

We have left it behind.

When we got a call from you guys

we agreed because we wanted
to hear what you had to say.

We wanted to hear
what you knew about all this.

We have left all this behind.

Delhi is a place

where a lot of migrants
come to settle down.

These migrants come to Delhi

to earn a living, and not to die.

They do not have enough money

or a family to care for them.

They didn't have
anyone influential to help them out.

So, they didn't get
the support that they actually needed.

And that was really unfair.

Just because they were migrants,
they went unnoticed.

It may not be the same in this case,

but there are many cases
where such things go unnoticed.

I am not a mental health expert,

but I can tell you using common sense
as a social scientist that

if someone is working
continuously for 12 to 14 hours

and has grown up
in the open air of a village…

Here,

most of the migrants are impoverished

and live in cramped conditions.

Some don't even have
a roof over their heads.

They have to live on the streets.

Living in such conditions
must have impacted their mental health.

Most of the Bihari migrants are
working in the lowest occupation.

Generally, the word "Bihari"
is used as a bad term.

Apathy. I'll call it apathy.

When a certain accused
belongs to a particular

segment of society,

we often tend to shut our eyes.

We don't look at those cases
very minutely or very closely.

We don't even bother about the conviction.

We just take it for granted

and this person is going to get convicted.

He perhaps could have done it.

And even when there is
weak evidence, people get convicted.

The media never reports
about cases like these.

Chandrakant's case was lost.

Similarly, several hundred cases
get lost every year.

And the high-profile cases are

what the media and journalists focus on.

But in cases like this
when somebody's life,

liberty, or perhaps
somebody's family is involved,

because of their background,

we often tend to lose focus.

For people like him,

if you can go deep enough
to try to understand him and help him out,

they're the people who turn overnight.

That is possible by introducing

pro-social thinking,

pro-social feeling,

pro-social behavior,

and a pro-social value
which can give can an identity to him.

Otherwise, he will not change.

That is more important.

But that is where I said

for me to be hopeful
for people like this is…

once again, is the way he defends himself.

It is his good behavior
in the social control environment.

That means he is capable of that.

To become what he is permanently.

So, if courts are so considerate to send

this kind of people
to rehabilitation programs,

we can try out and come out with research

and say whether it helps
or it doesn't help.

If you give me a chance,

I could prove if it works.

He was not a man
who would have really mattered a lot

either to society or even to the media.

People had forgotten about this case.

Society perhaps does not
even know that Chandrakant

is currently out on parole.

He's meeting people, he's going
to the market, he's buying vegetables.

He's doing everything that
every common man does.

It's the same man who was supposed
to be dangerous to the entire society.

He has been out on parole,

but he still remains an invisible man.

All that was going on in my mind was that

Chandrakant made a huge mistake
by killing my father.

Had I ascertained the situation earlier,
I would have killed him

without any hesitation.

I could have done it.

How can I spare someone

who has ruined
my entire life and my future?

I wouldn't mind bearing the consequences.

SITA RAM

For everything, you know,
what is his mental preoccupation?

At the present moment, his isolation,

should be the criteria to decide

whether he should be allowed
to go or he should not be allowed to go.

If you ask legally, then yes,
it is his right and he should be allowed.

Today, if the court decides
to free him and let him out…

What is the aim of his life?
What is the goal of his life?

Is it to really take care of his family,
or is it to go out and commit more crimes?

I have a feeling that it is the latter.