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Previously on The West Wing:
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DONNA:
He's a Republican lawyer.
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Turns out, now, he's
on Government Oversight.
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You can't see
him anymore.
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about the scope of inquiry.
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Look...
We're not going
to get anywhere
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putting on a calm face.
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We need to pick a fight.
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He scheduled a trip
to New Hampshire?
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High Tech corridor
of the Northeast.
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What does that
matter right now?
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SPORTSCASTER: ( over TV ):
45 seconds to go...
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Wittmeyer hands the ball off
to Johnson on the right side...
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( game continues in background )
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Well, Chris.
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Yeah.
Hi.
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Hey.
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C.J., do we know
what kind of gun it was?
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Which gun?
The first gun.
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Okay, here are a
few confirmations
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and a few
more details.
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The shooting took place
approximately 15 minutes
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into the 9:00 service
at United Baptist Church
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in Abilene, Texas.
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Will Sawyer
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is that you?
Yes.
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You're back in the country?
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Yeah.
You working for
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the San Francisco Chronicle now?
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Then you want to get your ass
out of their chair?
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( reporters laughter )
There's assigned seating?
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You see the little brass plaques
with the names
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of media outlets
on the front
of the seats?
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I thought that
meant they made
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a generous
contribution.
Find a seat in back.
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15 minutes into the service,
Daryl Bechtell--
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B-e-c-h-t-e-l-l--
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Reports indicate he was looking
for his estranged wife.
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He fired off a round--
that was from the .38--
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missing his wife
and hitting Harold Winter
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in the left shoulder.
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Mr. Winter is 65
and currently undergoing surgery
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at Abilene Regional
Medical Center.
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Mr. Bechtell fired off anywhere
between two and four more rounds
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at that point-- reports differ--
as the crowd began to scatter.
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That's when Ron Cahrl pulled
a nine-millimeter Glock
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from under his suit coat
and fired off three rounds
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in the direction
of Mr. Bechtell.
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It's unclear which
of those rounds
struck Melissa Markey.
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Confirmation on her age?
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She'll be nine
years old
tomorrow.
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Can you speak to what
either Daryl Bechtell
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or Ron Cahrl
might be charged with?
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No, the Abilene Sheriff's
Office will address that.
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I can tell you that Mr.
Bechtell's gun was registered
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and that Ron Cahrl had a license
to carry a concealed weapon.
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Doesn't Texas
law prohibit
carrying a weapon
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in a church or
a synagogue?
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Again, I'll let the Sheriff's
Office speak to that
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but I'll tell you
that it only prohibits it
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if the church or synagogue
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posts such a prohibition
in plain sight.
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REPORTERS:
C.J...
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Hang on.
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Well...
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Melissa Markey died.
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SAM:
If you don't understand
a question, say so.
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And they'll
repeat it
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or they'll rephrase it.
DONNA:
Yeah.
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There's nothing wrong with not
understanding a question.
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Right.
There's
nothing wrong
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with saying "I
don't recall."
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I appreciate this.
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Yeah.
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Don't you want to go
over this with Josh?
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He's pissed at me.
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No, he's not.
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He's... yeah, he is.
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He didn't say anything.
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He doesn't say anything.
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All right.
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Anyway,
I appreciate this.
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Charlie, hang
on a second.
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You're going to be
sitting in a room.
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It's going to feel
like you did something
wrong, but guess what?
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What?
You didn't, so...
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Yeah.
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You got a cab out front?
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Yeah.
Come back when
it's over?
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Thanks.
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You make a pick?
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Oakland over Dallas.
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Okay.
It's a lock.
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Okay.
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Everybody's staying away,
because they want
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to keep Oakland
down the road.
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But if you're like me,
you're not as impressed
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with the pre-season hype.
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You pick the Raiders
at home
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and you bank on them
not being
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a prohibitive favorite
going into the playoffs.
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Okay.
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You think I should take
Tennessee over Detroit?
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I didn't say that.
You said it
with your eyes.
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Okay.
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I'll take Tennessee
over Detroit.
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I'm writing it down.
Write it down.
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Wait. No, give me
Oakland over Dallas.
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Okay.
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Except make it New
Orleans over Atlanta.
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The first game's
about to start.
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New Orleans
over Atlanta.
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I'm writing it down.
Write it down.
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Good afternoon.
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Hey, Charlie.
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How was church?
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It sucked.
It was fine.
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Stop it.
It sucked.
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You're talking
about church.
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Oh, like I'm not
already going to hell.
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What was the problem?
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He feels the homily
lacked panache.
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It did lack panache.
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It was a perfectly lovely
homily on Ephesians 5:21.
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"Husbands, love your
wives, as Christ loved
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the Church and gave
Himself up for her."
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Yeah, she's skipping over
the part that says
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"Wives, be subject to your
husbands, as to the Lord.
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"For the husband is
the head of the wife
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as Christ is the head
of the Church."
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I do skip over
that part.
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Why?
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Because
it's stupid!
Okay.
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"Husbands, love your wives
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"as Christ loved the Church
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"and gave himself
up for her
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"that he might
sanctify her
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"having cleansed her by washing
of water with the word
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"that he might present
the Church
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to himself in..." something.
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"In splendor," and I have
no problem with Ephesians.
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And anytime you want
me to cleanse you
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with the washing of water,
you know I'm up for it.
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Then what is your problem?
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Hackery. This
guy was a hack.
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He had a captive audience.
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And the way I know that
is that I tried
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to tunnel out
of there several times.
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He had an audience,
and he didn't know
what to do with it.
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It couldn't
have hurt.
Oh, God, oh!
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Words, words,
when spoken out loud
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for the sake of performance,
are music.
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They have rhythm and pitch
and timbre and volume.
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These are the properties
of music
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and music has the ability
to find us and move us
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and lift us up in ways
that literal meaning can't.
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You are an
oratorical snob.
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Yes, I am,
and God loves me for it.
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You said He was
sending you to hell.
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For other stuff,
not for this.
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You can't just trot out
Ephesians--
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It has nothing to do
with husbands and wives.
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It's all of us.
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St. Paul begins the passage,
"Be subject to one another
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out of reverence
to Christ."
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"Be subject to one another..."
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In this day and age
of 24-hour cable crap
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devoted to feeding
the voyeuristic gluttony
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of an American public hooked
on a bad soap opera
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that's passing itself off
as important
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don't you think
you might be able
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to find some relevance
in Verse 21?
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How do we end the cycle?
"Be subject to one another."
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So, this is
about you.
No, it's not about me.
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Yes, it is about me,
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but tomorrow, it'll be
about somebody else.
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We'll watch Larry King
and see who.
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All hacks off the stage,
right now!
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That's
a national security order.
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I'm going to
the residence.
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I'm taking a bath.
I'm turning on Sinatra.
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How does Mrs. Sinatra
feel about that?
Peace be with you.
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* You make me
egg foo yung... *
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Good morning, Mr. President.
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* You make me feel there
are songs to be sung... *
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He's feisty.
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Please, don't ask
him about church.
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No, I won't.
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I'm sorry, Mr. President.
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Melissa Markey died.
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Yeah, okay.
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Oh, damn.
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Charlie, can
I see Leo?
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Yes, sir.
She would've lost
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too much blood
at the scene, Jed.
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She didn't have
a chance.
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Yeah.
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All right...
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I'll be over in
the residence.
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I've got to see Babish
this afternoon.
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Okay.
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When do you think I
should go in there?
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I'd wait a couple of hours
till we have some more facts.
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You'll talk to the
Sheriff's Office and...
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Yeah.
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I guess the D.A.
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Yeah, but you don't want
to walk too far into that.
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Yeah.
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Good morning.
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You heard?
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Yeah.
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C.J. thinks I should
wait a few hours.
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I would.
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Okay.
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Thank you, Mr. President.
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Be subject
to one another, Leo.
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What can I do to be
of subject to you?
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I'm fine.
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Yeah?
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I've got Margaret.
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Okay.
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( sighs )
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I think you should send
Hoynes to Texas.
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He's not going
to want to do it.
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What do you care?
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I'm meeting
with Adamley.
What about?
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He wants to talk to me about
the War Crimes Tribunal.
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Keep me out of
it, all right?
Yeah.
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You think I should send
Hoynes to Texas?
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Yeah.
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All right, get
him over here.
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Now?
Yeah.
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Thank you, Mr. President.
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CALLEY:
This proceeding is known
as a deposition.
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The person transcribing
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the deposition is
a House reporter
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and although she's not
a notary public
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you were just sworn in
by a notary public
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Do you understand?
DONNA:
Yes.
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Because you were
placed under oath
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your testimony here
today has the same
force and effect
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as if you were
testifying
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before the Committee
in a courtroom.
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This Committee has been
granted authorization
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pursuant to House
Resolution 173.
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I'm Majority Counsel
for the House Government
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Oversight and Reform Committee.
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Would you state your full name
for the record, please?
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Donnatella Moss.
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D-o-n-n-a-t-e-l-l-a.
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M-o-s-s.
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At this point, I'd like
the record to indicate
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that Majority Counsel
has met the witness
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Without objection,
I'd like to proceed.
No objection.
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Counsel?
No objection.
256
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I'd also like to express
257
00:09:38,612 --> 00:09:41,481
the Committee's appreciation
to the witness
258
00:09:41,481 --> 00:09:43,617
voluntarily or as the result
of a subpoena?
259
00:09:43,617 --> 00:09:45,385
A subpoena.
260
00:09:45,385 --> 00:09:47,354
Donna, this is
going to be easy.
261
00:09:47,354 --> 00:09:48,588
You can laugh.
262
00:09:48,588 --> 00:09:49,990
Were you recently
asked to help
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00:09:49,990 --> 00:09:51,692
organize documents, pursuant
264
00:09:51,692 --> 00:09:52,926
to this Committee's
current investigation?
265
00:09:52,926 --> 00:09:54,327
Yes.
266
00:09:54,327 --> 00:09:56,163
Would you describe
how that worked?
267
00:09:56,163 --> 00:09:58,031
On instructions
from Joshua Lyman
268
00:09:58,031 --> 00:10:00,100
and the White House
Counsel's Office
269
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I took over a storage room
at the OEOB
270
00:10:02,069 --> 00:10:04,371
and began sorting through
any interoffice
271
00:10:04,371 --> 00:10:06,139
or interdepartmental
documents
272
00:10:06,139 --> 00:10:08,776
both from the campaign
and from the West Wing.
273
00:10:08,776 --> 00:10:10,343
Now, for the record,
the campaign
274
00:10:10,343 --> 00:10:11,311
you're referring to is...?
275
00:10:11,311 --> 00:10:12,479
Bartlet for America.
276
00:10:12,479 --> 00:10:14,247
How'd you guys do?
We won.
277
00:10:14,247 --> 00:10:16,984
Okay, my colleagues
are going to ask you
some questions.
278
00:10:16,984 --> 00:10:18,952
Then we'll get back
to me and finish up.
279
00:10:18,952 --> 00:10:21,154
Okay.
MAN:
Ms. Moss?
280
00:10:21,154 --> 00:10:22,522
Do you keep
a photo album?
281
00:10:22,522 --> 00:10:23,857
No.
282
00:10:23,857 --> 00:10:25,392
Okay, do you keep...
283
00:10:25,392 --> 00:10:26,960
I'm sorry, I keep photographs.
284
00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:28,595
I don't have them in an album.
285
00:10:28,595 --> 00:10:31,264
Okay. Do you keep
a scrapbook?
286
00:10:31,264 --> 00:10:33,734
No.
Do you keep letters,
notes or other
287
00:10:33,734 --> 00:10:35,969
correspondence
you receive
from people?
288
00:10:35,969 --> 00:10:38,205
Sometimes a birthday card
or a letter from my father.
289
00:10:38,205 --> 00:10:40,107
Do you keep
a diary?
No.
290
00:10:40,107 --> 00:10:43,811
Okay, do you receive
gifts from anyone
who's currently...
291
00:10:43,811 --> 00:10:45,045
I'm sorry, hang on.
292
00:10:45,045 --> 00:10:46,680
Would you read that back?
293
00:10:46,680 --> 00:10:48,849
Question: "Do you keep a diary."
294
00:10:48,849 --> 00:10:51,218
Answer: "No."
295
00:10:51,218 --> 00:10:53,020
Question: "Okay, do you
receive gifts from...?"
296
00:10:53,020 --> 00:10:54,321
Okay.
297
00:10:54,321 --> 00:10:55,555
Okay.
298
00:10:55,555 --> 00:10:56,890
Go ahead.
299
00:10:56,890 --> 00:10:58,225
Do you receive gifts
300
00:10:58,225 --> 00:11:01,561
from anyone
who is currently
301
00:11:01,561 --> 00:11:03,964
( thunder rumbling )
302
00:11:13,473 --> 00:11:14,407
C.J.:
How are you doing?
303
00:11:14,407 --> 00:11:15,943
Good.
304
00:11:15,943 --> 00:11:17,077
You're sitting
in my chair.
305
00:11:17,077 --> 00:11:19,046
It didn't have
a plaque on it.
306
00:11:19,046 --> 00:11:20,647
( chuckling ):
I've missed you.
Yeah.
307
00:11:20,647 --> 00:11:21,882
You've been gone
three weeks.
308
00:11:21,882 --> 00:11:23,416
I've been gone
two and a half years.
309
00:11:23,416 --> 00:11:25,385
Really?
Yes.
310
00:11:25,385 --> 00:11:26,887
I thought you were
our man in Myanmar.
311
00:11:26,887 --> 00:11:28,722
I got kicked out of Myanmar.
312
00:11:28,722 --> 00:11:30,123
Will, is there
a third world country
313
00:11:30,123 --> 00:11:31,424
you haven't been
kicked out of?
314
00:11:31,424 --> 00:11:33,226
Hey, I've been kicked
out of plenty
315
00:11:33,226 --> 00:11:34,962
of industrialized
nations, too.
316
00:11:34,962 --> 00:11:36,764
Why'd they kick you out?
Well, first of all
317
00:11:36,764 --> 00:11:38,131
they didn't kick
me out exactly.
318
00:11:38,131 --> 00:11:39,399
In fact, they love me
in Myanmar.
319
00:11:39,399 --> 00:11:41,068
What happened?
320
00:11:41,068 --> 00:11:42,836
They put a bounty
on my head.
321
00:11:42,836 --> 00:11:44,271
( laughing )
It's not funny.
322
00:11:44,271 --> 00:11:46,573
The Myanmarese
government is built
323
00:11:46,573 --> 00:11:48,041
on narcotics trafficking.
324
00:11:48,041 --> 00:11:50,177
Myanmar, Thailand, Laos.
325
00:11:50,177 --> 00:11:52,579
I was this close
to the story.
326
00:11:52,579 --> 00:11:55,582
Yeah?
I had interviews
with Peng Jiasheng
327
00:11:55,582 --> 00:11:56,984
Pau Yukiang, Li Zuru.
328
00:11:56,984 --> 00:11:58,752
I was tight
with narco-barons.
329
00:11:58,752 --> 00:12:00,788
Until?
The Myanmarese army...
330
00:12:00,788 --> 00:12:02,589
...put a bounty
on your head.
331
00:12:02,589 --> 00:12:03,991
Yeah.
How'd you know?
332
00:12:03,991 --> 00:12:05,759
The State Department came
and got me.
333
00:12:05,759 --> 00:12:07,494
Oh, that had to be embarrassing
334
00:12:07,494 --> 00:12:10,430
in front of your
narco-baron friends.
335
00:12:10,430 --> 00:12:12,465
I'm assigned to
the White House
Press Corps
336
00:12:12,465 --> 00:12:15,769
until they can find me,
you know, a reporting job.
337
00:12:15,769 --> 00:12:17,437
No. No offense taken.
338
00:12:17,437 --> 00:12:20,473
Thanks.
339
00:12:20,473 --> 00:12:22,609
I have a quote if
you want to comment.
340
00:12:22,609 --> 00:12:24,311
What is it?
341
00:12:24,311 --> 00:12:26,213
Toby Ziegler says,
"If the President
wins reelection
342
00:12:26,213 --> 00:12:27,881
it'll be on the Vice
President's coattails."
343
00:12:27,881 --> 00:12:29,482
If the President wins
reelection
344
00:12:29,482 --> 00:12:31,718
it'll be on the Vice President's
coattails?
345
00:12:31,718 --> 00:12:33,253
I think that's, uh...
346
00:12:33,253 --> 00:12:34,587
yeah.
347
00:12:34,587 --> 00:12:35,688
He said this to you?
348
00:12:35,688 --> 00:12:36,824
No.
Where'd you get it?
349
00:12:36,824 --> 00:12:39,592
The person he said it to.
350
00:12:39,592 --> 00:12:41,428
give me a little time
to check it out, would you?
351
00:12:41,428 --> 00:12:42,963
Yeah.
352
00:12:42,963 --> 00:12:44,898
You've been gone
two and a half years?
353
00:12:44,898 --> 00:12:46,733
Yeah.
It seemed like
less than that.
354
00:12:46,733 --> 00:12:50,904
People lose all track of time
and space when I'm not around.
355
00:12:50,904 --> 00:12:53,006
Yeah.
356
00:12:54,541 --> 00:12:58,478
SAM:
It's $30 billion
in School Modernization Bonds.
357
00:12:58,478 --> 00:12:59,646
Thanks, Ginger.
358
00:12:59,646 --> 00:13:01,114
Thank you.
Sure.
359
00:13:01,114 --> 00:13:04,818
It's $30 billion
in School Modernization Bonds.
360
00:13:04,818 --> 00:13:07,054
Interest free for
school districts.
361
00:13:07,054 --> 00:13:09,689
We're estimating it will
help build and modernize
362
00:13:09,689 --> 00:13:11,091
7,000 schools nationwide.
363
00:13:11,091 --> 00:13:13,326
There's another $1.5 billion
for urgent repairs
364
00:13:13,326 --> 00:13:16,363
targeted to high-need
districts.
365
00:13:16,363 --> 00:13:19,599
Roof repairs, heating
and cooling systems,
electrical wiring.
366
00:13:19,599 --> 00:13:21,634
The point is, we
think we need the
Congressman's vote
367
00:13:21,634 --> 00:13:23,904
to get it out of the
Appropriations Committee
and onto the floor.
368
00:13:23,904 --> 00:13:25,505
He'll be with it.
That's what I thought.
369
00:13:25,505 --> 00:13:27,074
He's just looking
for the President's support
370
00:13:27,074 --> 00:13:28,508
on a bill
that he'll be sponsoring.
371
00:13:28,508 --> 00:13:29,943
What's it called?
372
00:13:29,943 --> 00:13:31,544
It's called the "Legal Tender
Modernization Act."
373
00:13:31,544 --> 00:13:33,013
Which provides for?
374
00:13:33,013 --> 00:13:35,015
The elimination
of the penny.
I'm sorry?
375
00:13:35,015 --> 00:13:37,384
It would permanently halt
production of the penny.
376
00:13:37,384 --> 00:13:38,385
Why?
377
00:13:38,385 --> 00:13:39,519
I'm glad you asked.
378
00:13:39,519 --> 00:13:40,620
Yeah.
379
00:13:40,620 --> 00:13:43,156
Last year, the U.S. Mint
cut 14 billion pennies
380
00:13:43,156 --> 00:13:44,858
and shipped them off
to the Federal Reserve
381
00:13:44,858 --> 00:13:46,159
which dumped them
in our laps.
382
00:13:46,159 --> 00:13:47,928
They're worthless.
383
00:13:47,928 --> 00:13:49,729
Well, they're actually
worth one cent.
384
00:13:49,729 --> 00:13:51,698
The dollar has
the buying power today
385
00:13:51,698 --> 00:13:53,033
that the quarter
had 30 years ago.
386
00:13:53,033 --> 00:13:54,701
The penny's buying power's
shrunk to nothing.
387
00:13:54,701 --> 00:13:56,303
Well, that's not true--
you can get yourself
a gumball.
388
00:13:56,303 --> 00:13:57,770
No, you can't.
They cost a nickel.
389
00:13:57,770 --> 00:13:59,606
Really?
390
00:13:59,606 --> 00:14:02,175
I'm going to need to give
the Congressman a good reason
391
00:14:02,175 --> 00:14:04,311
why the White House
won't support the bill
392
00:14:04,311 --> 00:14:06,079
if they won't support
the bill.
393
00:14:06,079 --> 00:14:07,915
Oh, don't make me give
you a good reason.
394
00:14:07,915 --> 00:14:10,217
You want your $30 billion
in school repairs?
395
00:14:10,217 --> 00:14:11,919
Well, we're already
well on our way
396
00:14:11,919 --> 00:14:13,186
with 140 million pennies.
397
00:14:13,186 --> 00:14:14,888
Sam...
I'll get you
a good reason.
398
00:14:16,289 --> 00:14:17,991
Charlie?
399
00:14:17,991 --> 00:14:20,027
Yes, sir.
400
00:14:20,027 --> 00:14:21,628
You took Indianapolis?
401
00:14:21,628 --> 00:14:23,130
Yes, sir.
402
00:14:23,130 --> 00:14:25,498
You didn't want to take
Kansas City over Arizona?
403
00:14:25,498 --> 00:14:26,699
No, sir.
404
00:14:26,699 --> 00:14:28,835
Kansas City's got three
players out of Notre Dame.
405
00:14:28,835 --> 00:14:30,938
Yes, sir.
406
00:14:30,938 --> 00:14:33,140
that's got more players
out of Notre Dame.
407
00:14:33,140 --> 00:14:34,607
That's a heck
of a system, sir.
408
00:14:34,607 --> 00:14:36,276
What's your system?
409
00:14:36,276 --> 00:14:38,845
I compare the team's record
to the record of its opponent.
410
00:14:38,845 --> 00:14:39,980
That's a little
simplistic, isn't it?
411
00:14:39,980 --> 00:14:41,114
Yes, sir.
412
00:14:41,114 --> 00:14:42,149
Excuse me, Mr. President?
413
00:14:42,149 --> 00:14:43,083
Yeah.
The Vice President.
414
00:14:43,083 --> 00:14:45,285
Thank you.
415
00:14:46,586 --> 00:14:47,955
Charlie.
Sir.
416
00:14:47,955 --> 00:14:49,222
Hey, John.
417
00:14:49,222 --> 00:14:50,223
Good afternoon, sir.
418
00:14:50,223 --> 00:14:51,558
Do you know this church?
419
00:14:51,558 --> 00:14:54,261
No.
420
00:14:54,261 --> 00:14:57,564
No.
Listen, you feel like
having a beer with me?
421
00:14:57,564 --> 00:14:59,899
On Sundays, when we
got back from church
422
00:14:59,899 --> 00:15:01,668
my father would let
my brother and me
split a beer.
423
00:15:01,668 --> 00:15:03,170
It got to be a habit.
424
00:15:03,170 --> 00:15:04,904
You mind if I split
some water with you?
Nancy.
425
00:15:04,904 --> 00:15:07,174
I need you to go
to Texas, John.
426
00:15:07,174 --> 00:15:10,277
Nancy, could I get a cold beer
and some ice water?
427
00:15:10,277 --> 00:15:11,078
Yes, sir.
428
00:15:11,078 --> 00:15:12,179
And close the door, please.
429
00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,583
You want to send me to Texas?
430
00:15:16,583 --> 00:15:18,218
It's what Texans do.
431
00:15:18,218 --> 00:15:20,153
You know, a decade ago
432
00:15:20,153 --> 00:15:22,389
we passed a few national
gun control laws
433
00:15:22,389 --> 00:15:24,857
and the gun lobby turned
its back on Congress
434
00:15:24,857 --> 00:15:27,127
and started focusing
on the states.
435
00:15:27,127 --> 00:15:29,296
The NRA systematically worked
the legislatures
436
00:15:29,296 --> 00:15:31,331
to weaken conceal-and-carry laws
437
00:15:31,331 --> 00:15:34,034
the effect of which is
to increase gun sales
438
00:15:34,034 --> 00:15:36,169
and pad its own membership.
439
00:15:36,169 --> 00:15:38,405
Well, I don't necessarily agree
with that, but...
440
00:15:38,405 --> 00:15:40,273
The National Conference
of State Legislatures is meeting
441
00:15:40,273 --> 00:15:42,442
next weekend at the Convention
Center in San Antonio.
442
00:15:42,442 --> 00:15:44,544
And you want me to go to Texas
and speak for you.
443
00:15:44,544 --> 00:15:45,345
Yeah.
444
00:15:45,345 --> 00:15:46,313
'Cause that's what Texans do.
445
00:15:48,681 --> 00:15:50,550
It's also
what Vice Presidents do.
446
00:15:52,719 --> 00:15:53,320
( knocking )
447
00:15:59,759 --> 00:16:01,728
Thank you, Nancy.
448
00:16:05,798 --> 00:16:08,101
Thank you, Nancy.
449
00:16:13,806 --> 00:16:14,807
Alan?
450
00:16:14,807 --> 00:16:15,708
Hey!
451
00:16:17,910 --> 00:16:19,279
( pats shoulder )
Come on back.
452
00:16:19,279 --> 00:16:22,582
Thanks for taking the time.
453
00:16:22,582 --> 00:16:23,783
No, no.
454
00:16:23,783 --> 00:16:25,852
So how did it go?
455
00:16:25,852 --> 00:16:27,620
It was a good trip.
456
00:16:27,620 --> 00:16:29,156
I met with, uh, Hassan
457
00:16:29,156 --> 00:16:31,424
and I met with
the Aviation Prince.
458
00:16:31,424 --> 00:16:33,793
You know what we need
in this country?
459
00:16:33,793 --> 00:16:34,627
An Aviation Prince.
460
00:16:34,627 --> 00:16:35,628
That's right.
461
00:16:35,628 --> 00:16:37,597
Well, let me tell
you something.
462
00:16:37,597 --> 00:16:40,367
Sultan Bin Abu Azir ain't
what he used to be.
463
00:16:40,367 --> 00:16:42,202
Last time I was in Kuwait
464
00:16:42,202 --> 00:16:44,604
he gave me a gold
inlay Gadara sword
465
00:16:44,604 --> 00:16:45,772
What'd you get this time?
466
00:16:45,772 --> 00:16:47,440
Nothing.
467
00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,142
You want to down
to the Situation Room
468
00:16:49,142 --> 00:16:50,810
blow 'em off
the face of the Earth?
469
00:16:50,810 --> 00:16:51,878
Yeah.
470
00:16:51,878 --> 00:16:53,546
So...
471
00:16:53,546 --> 00:16:56,516
The, uh, NSC Communications
Office cabled me a draft
472
00:16:56,516 --> 00:16:59,018
of the President's
radio address
for next weekend.
473
00:16:59,018 --> 00:17:00,520
Alan, it's a...
474
00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,855
"At the close of
the last World War
475
00:17:02,855 --> 00:17:05,525
"our nation was instrumental
in the creation
476
00:17:05,525 --> 00:17:07,227
"of both the United Nations
477
00:17:07,227 --> 00:17:09,696
"and the Nuremberg War
Crimes Tribunal.
478
00:17:09,696 --> 00:17:11,831
"Now at the dawn
of the millennium
479
00:17:11,831 --> 00:17:14,934
we cannot betray
that tradition of
moral leadership."
480
00:17:14,934 --> 00:17:16,002
He's made up his mind.
481
00:17:16,002 --> 00:17:17,036
It's an early draft.
482
00:17:17,036 --> 00:17:18,705
It's not a big thing.
483
00:17:18,705 --> 00:17:21,508
Well, I know that Hutchinson
and Berryhill are for it
484
00:17:21,508 --> 00:17:23,310
but, to me, to Fitzwallace,
the Pentagon
485
00:17:23,310 --> 00:17:26,346
the House and the Senate
Armed Services
486
00:17:26,346 --> 00:17:28,948
and House and Senate
Foreign Relations
487
00:17:28,948 --> 00:17:31,384
it's a thing
of catastrophic
proportions.
488
00:17:31,384 --> 00:17:32,885
Let's go inside and talk.
489
00:17:32,885 --> 00:17:36,123
( thunder rumbling )
490
00:17:36,123 --> 00:17:37,957
Hey.
Uh, I'm-I'm not here.
491
00:17:37,957 --> 00:17:40,727
I called you at home
and had you paged.
492
00:17:40,727 --> 00:17:42,562
Yeah.
I didn't know
you were here.
493
00:17:42,562 --> 00:17:44,131
I'm not.
494
00:17:44,131 --> 00:17:45,998
I think the jig is up.
495
00:17:45,998 --> 00:17:47,867
Clearly I'm here,
but I'm not open
for business.
496
00:17:47,867 --> 00:17:50,036
I heard the President
was meeting with Hoynes
497
00:17:50,036 --> 00:17:51,738
so I-I-I wanted
to see how it goes.
498
00:17:51,738 --> 00:17:53,140
Listen...
499
00:17:53,140 --> 00:17:55,975
And I see you picked
Chicago over Cincinnati
500
00:17:55,975 --> 00:17:59,146
why your money's going
to be in my pocket.
501
00:17:59,146 --> 00:18:02,782
it's going to be on
the Vice President's coattails.
502
00:18:02,782 --> 00:18:07,053
I-I-I just said...
that exact same thing
a couple of days ago.
503
00:18:07,053 --> 00:18:08,821
I know.
You know how I know?
504
00:18:08,821 --> 00:18:10,390
Will Sawyer just told me.
505
00:18:10,390 --> 00:18:12,459
Will Sawyer's in Myanmar.
506
00:18:12,459 --> 00:18:14,327
He got kicked out of Myanmar.
He's in the Room now.
507
00:18:14,327 --> 00:18:16,396
C.J., I said it...
508
00:18:18,298 --> 00:18:19,599
I said it in
that W.A. meeting.
509
00:18:19,599 --> 00:18:21,568
I said it at the end
of the meeting.
510
00:18:21,568 --> 00:18:25,238
We were talking
about areas
511
00:18:25,238 --> 00:18:27,607
where Hoynes is polling
stronger than...
512
00:18:27,607 --> 00:18:29,342
It was...
513
00:18:29,342 --> 00:18:31,644
( awkward chuckle )
514
00:18:31,644 --> 00:18:34,514
I said to our own...
515
00:18:37,317 --> 00:18:38,885
( sighing )
516
00:18:38,885 --> 00:18:40,187
Do I have a little time?
517
00:18:40,187 --> 00:18:41,754
A little.
Thank you.
518
00:18:41,754 --> 00:18:43,089
You're here now?
519
00:18:43,089 --> 00:18:44,123
( chuckling )
520
00:18:44,123 --> 00:18:45,225
Yeah.
521
00:18:51,798 --> 00:18:53,533
Ginger!
522
00:18:56,203 --> 00:18:59,005
I want you to page
every junior staffer
and senior assistant
523
00:18:59,005 --> 00:19:01,208
who works in the West Wing.
524
00:19:01,208 --> 00:19:03,009
I want them to assemble
downstairs
525
00:19:03,009 --> 00:19:05,044
in the mess in two hours.
526
00:19:05,044 --> 00:19:07,447
If they can't be here
in two hours
527
00:19:07,447 --> 00:19:09,516
then they don't need to come in
tomorrow morning.
528
00:19:13,253 --> 00:19:15,688
( thunder cracking )
529
00:19:26,666 --> 00:19:27,867
Hey.
530
00:19:27,867 --> 00:19:28,968
How you doing?
531
00:19:28,968 --> 00:19:30,770
How'd you get here
before me?
532
00:19:30,770 --> 00:19:32,138
I drove.
533
00:19:32,138 --> 00:19:35,107
Should you be here?
No.
534
00:19:35,107 --> 00:19:37,410
Then what are you...?
I need to know why
you lied before.
535
00:19:37,410 --> 00:19:38,945
When?
Donna--
536
00:19:38,945 --> 00:19:40,046
I didn't lie.
537
00:19:40,046 --> 00:19:41,147
I saw your diary.
538
00:19:41,147 --> 00:19:42,882
When I was over
that night.
539
00:19:42,882 --> 00:19:45,017
You keep a diary.
540
00:19:45,017 --> 00:19:45,952
Why'd you say
you didn't?
541
00:19:45,952 --> 00:19:47,687
I don't keep a diary.
542
00:19:47,687 --> 00:19:50,657
I saw it.
You didn't, because
there is no diary...
543
00:19:50,657 --> 00:19:54,561
Now what's in it
that you had to lie
to the Committee?
544
00:19:54,561 --> 00:19:57,730
You're lead counsel
for the Committee
545
00:19:57,730 --> 00:20:00,166
and the President
of the United States.
That's right.
546
00:20:00,166 --> 00:20:01,568
And I thought you were
a little bit smarmy
547
00:20:01,568 --> 00:20:03,270
with your "Donna, it's okay,
you can laugh, you're..."
548
00:20:03,270 --> 00:20:04,237
Was that charm?
Tell me what...
549
00:20:04,237 --> 00:20:05,938
There is no diary.
550
00:20:05,938 --> 00:20:09,876
18 U.S.C., 1-0-0-1,
Lying to Congress
551
00:20:09,876 --> 00:20:12,211
$10,000 and not more
than five years in prison.
552
00:20:12,211 --> 00:20:13,980
Cliff...
18 U.S.C., 1-5-0-5
553
00:20:13,980 --> 00:20:15,948
Obstruction of Proceedings
Before Departments
554
00:20:15,948 --> 00:20:18,351
Agencies and Committees:
not more than five years.
555
00:20:18,351 --> 00:20:21,053
Two U.S.C., 192,
Contempt of Congress:
556
00:20:21,053 --> 00:20:22,188
a thousand dollars
557
00:20:22,188 --> 00:20:23,990
and imprisonment
in a common jail
558
00:20:23,990 --> 00:20:25,358
for not more than 12 months.
559
00:20:25,358 --> 00:20:27,026
It was a perfectly
innocent mistake.
560
00:20:27,026 --> 00:20:29,762
Now let me talk to your lawyer
and help you walk this back.
561
00:20:29,762 --> 00:20:32,499
Just out of curiosity,
what would you say?
562
00:20:34,133 --> 00:20:35,668
That you thought
you saw a diary
563
00:20:35,668 --> 00:20:37,304
while you were
hunting around
564
00:20:37,304 --> 00:20:39,038
for your boxer shorts?
565
00:20:39,038 --> 00:20:40,740
You shouldn't be here.
566
00:20:52,585 --> 00:20:53,386
Why?
567
00:20:53,386 --> 00:20:55,187
Why?
Yes.
568
00:20:55,187 --> 00:20:57,189
is populated with
unbalanced people
569
00:20:57,189 --> 00:20:59,659
many of whom
find their way
to Washington
570
00:20:59,659 --> 00:21:03,296
as if the continent
funnels them into
this one spot.
571
00:21:03,296 --> 00:21:05,465
He doesn't want
to abolish it as
much as he wants
572
00:21:05,465 --> 00:21:07,634
to give his boss
a reason why we can't.
573
00:21:07,634 --> 00:21:09,268
Well... it's stupid.
574
00:21:09,268 --> 00:21:11,704
Yeah, the thing is,
it isn't really.
575
00:21:11,704 --> 00:21:13,105
Turns out the majority
576
00:21:13,105 --> 00:21:15,508
of pennies
don't circulate.
577
00:21:15,508 --> 00:21:17,710
Two-thirds of the
pennies produced in
the last 30 years
578
00:21:17,710 --> 00:21:18,745
have dropped out of circulation.
579
00:21:18,745 --> 00:21:19,979
You've been reading about this?
580
00:21:19,979 --> 00:21:21,514
It's interesting.
581
00:21:21,514 --> 00:21:22,949
No, it's not.
582
00:21:22,949 --> 00:21:24,517
The Mint gets letters
583
00:21:24,517 --> 00:21:26,886
with pennies taped
on notebook paper
584
00:21:26,886 --> 00:21:28,988
from citizens who
found the pennies
on the street
585
00:21:28,988 --> 00:21:30,156
and mailed them back
to the Treasury
586
00:21:30,156 --> 00:21:31,223
to help pay down the debt.
587
00:21:31,223 --> 00:21:33,225
It's almost hard to believe
588
00:21:33,225 --> 00:21:35,828
It's also bad for
the environment.
589
00:21:35,828 --> 00:21:37,964
of millions of
tons of copper
and zinc each year.
590
00:21:37,964 --> 00:21:38,731
Zinc?
In 1982
591
00:21:38,731 --> 00:21:40,232
they changed the composition
592
00:21:40,232 --> 00:21:43,002
to 97.5 percent zinc, and
only 2.5 percent copper.
593
00:21:43,002 --> 00:21:44,437
Sam?
594
00:21:44,437 --> 00:21:45,705
I'm turning into one
of the funnel people?
595
00:21:45,705 --> 00:21:48,575
Yeah.
596
00:21:48,575 --> 00:21:51,711
Donna thinks you're
still pissed at her.
597
00:21:51,711 --> 00:21:52,779
I'm not.
598
00:21:52,779 --> 00:21:53,780
I wasn't before.
599
00:21:53,780 --> 00:21:55,081
When did she tell you that?
600
00:21:55,081 --> 00:21:57,083
Before she left.
601
00:21:57,083 --> 00:21:58,084
You've heard from her?
602
00:21:58,084 --> 00:21:59,151
No.
603
00:21:59,151 --> 00:22:01,087
She should be done by now.
604
00:22:01,087 --> 00:22:02,755
Here's a riddle.
605
00:22:02,755 --> 00:22:05,592
What is the most ubiquitous
man-made object in America
606
00:22:05,592 --> 00:22:08,027
that does not interact
with any mechanism or machine?
607
00:22:08,027 --> 00:22:09,796
The penny?
608
00:22:09,796 --> 00:22:10,863
The penny.
609
00:22:12,799 --> 00:22:15,768
You can't even throw it
in a tollbooth.
610
00:22:15,768 --> 00:22:18,137
Well, except for Illinois.
611
00:22:18,137 --> 00:22:20,172
Why can you use it in Illinois?
612
00:22:20,172 --> 00:22:21,173
That's an interesting question.
613
00:22:21,173 --> 00:22:23,175
No, it's not.
614
00:22:23,175 --> 00:22:24,644
Hey.
Hey.
615
00:22:24,644 --> 00:22:26,479
I'm going to have
something for you soon.
616
00:22:26,479 --> 00:22:27,880
Toby's talking
to some people.
617
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:28,915
Okay.
618
00:22:28,915 --> 00:22:30,249
Hey, are you a king?
619
00:22:30,249 --> 00:22:32,184
No.
620
00:22:32,184 --> 00:22:34,421
Somebody said you
were hanging out with some tribe
621
00:22:34,421 --> 00:22:35,788
and they made
you a king.
622
00:22:35,788 --> 00:22:36,889
I'm a god.
623
00:22:36,889 --> 00:22:37,990
Oh.
624
00:22:37,990 --> 00:22:39,426
I'm the only white man
625
00:22:39,426 --> 00:22:41,728
to ever witness
the sacrificial rites
626
00:22:41,728 --> 00:22:43,329
of the Bau
Tribe of Fiji.
627
00:22:43,329 --> 00:22:45,097
I was almost
a victim myself
628
00:22:45,097 --> 00:22:48,100
until they made me
The Supporter of the World.
629
00:22:48,100 --> 00:22:49,301
How'd you swing that?
630
00:22:49,301 --> 00:22:50,837
Using my Palm Pilot
631
00:22:50,837 --> 00:22:52,472
I convinced the Bau
I had the power
632
00:22:52,472 --> 00:22:55,074
to make the gods'
writing appear at will
633
00:22:55,074 --> 00:22:56,543
predict the next
day's weather.
634
00:22:56,543 --> 00:22:58,077
So you're a god.
635
00:22:58,077 --> 00:23:00,112
I'm the God of Good Harvest
and the Land of the Dead.
636
00:23:00,112 --> 00:23:01,848
I've got to go there
and bring my laptop.
637
00:23:01,848 --> 00:23:03,115
It quacks when I have email.
638
00:23:03,115 --> 00:23:05,452
No, you're too tall.
639
00:23:05,452 --> 00:23:06,953
What would happen?
640
00:23:06,953 --> 00:23:10,122
They would paint your face
and other body parts black
641
00:23:10,122 --> 00:23:12,859
so as to resemble a warrior
ornamented for feast or combat.
642
00:23:12,859 --> 00:23:16,395
Then you would be garroted
by a length of boar tripe.
643
00:23:16,395 --> 00:23:19,466
Yeah. No, good safety tip.
644
00:23:19,466 --> 00:23:20,533
Alan Adamley here?
645
00:23:20,533 --> 00:23:22,234
Yeah.
Why?
646
00:23:22,234 --> 00:23:24,303
He's meeting with Leo McGarry.
647
00:23:24,303 --> 00:23:27,974
Listen, you made a joke before
about being assigned
648
00:23:27,974 --> 00:23:30,076
until you could get
a real reporting job.
649
00:23:30,076 --> 00:23:31,277
Yeah.
650
00:23:31,277 --> 00:23:32,044
Was it a joke?
651
00:23:32,044 --> 00:23:33,179
Yeah.
652
00:23:33,179 --> 00:23:34,781
Okay.
653
00:23:34,781 --> 00:23:36,749
I'll have something for you
on the other thing soon.
654
00:23:36,749 --> 00:23:37,550
Thanks.
655
00:23:37,550 --> 00:23:38,951
HOYNES:
That's not true.
656
00:23:38,951 --> 00:23:40,286
John...
657
00:23:40,286 --> 00:23:41,921
It is not true, Mr. President.
658
00:23:41,921 --> 00:23:43,222
29 states have
"shall issue" laws.
659
00:23:43,222 --> 00:23:46,258
And if you look
at the State of New Jersey
660
00:23:46,258 --> 00:23:48,260
if you look
at changing that one word...
661
00:23:48,260 --> 00:23:49,829
Look, I'm not saying...
662
00:23:49,829 --> 00:23:52,565
...changing that one word
means law enforcement can decide
663
00:23:52,565 --> 00:23:54,066
who gets a concealed weapon
664
00:23:54,066 --> 00:23:56,536
and when and where
they can carry it.
665
00:23:56,536 --> 00:23:58,204
in front of the
legislature right now
666
00:23:58,204 --> 00:23:59,939
and you going down there...
667
00:23:59,939 --> 00:24:02,241
Me going down there is suicide,
and you know it, sir.
668
00:24:02,241 --> 00:24:04,511
It's counter-scheduling.
669
00:24:04,511 --> 00:24:07,346
you tell them something
they don't want to hear--
670
00:24:07,346 --> 00:24:10,049
So the editors
of the New York Times
671
00:24:10,049 --> 00:24:11,651
while the people
who decide elections...
672
00:24:11,651 --> 00:24:13,152
You're a hero in Texas.
673
00:24:13,152 --> 00:24:14,687
I was a hero in Texas.
674
00:24:14,687 --> 00:24:16,255
Texans don't like
that you have the courage
675
00:24:16,255 --> 00:24:17,524
of your convictions?
676
00:24:17,524 --> 00:24:19,325
They're not my convictions,
they're yours.
677
00:24:19,325 --> 00:24:22,629
Oh, yeah, I forgot.
678
00:24:22,629 --> 00:24:24,296
( sighing )
679
00:24:24,296 --> 00:24:27,099
( clearing throat )
680
00:24:27,099 --> 00:24:29,636
Mr. President,
we're not going to get anywhere
681
00:24:29,636 --> 00:24:31,037
by treating gun owners
682
00:24:31,037 --> 00:24:32,104
like psychopaths.
683
00:24:32,104 --> 00:24:33,773
And particularly
in the South
684
00:24:33,773 --> 00:24:35,407
where guns are a tradition
685
00:24:35,407 --> 00:24:38,745
and a heritage that's passed on
from father to son.
686
00:24:38,745 --> 00:24:39,846
That's not good enough.
687
00:24:39,846 --> 00:24:40,847
Sir...
A tradition
688
00:24:40,847 --> 00:24:42,849
passed on from father to son?
689
00:24:42,849 --> 00:24:44,617
We tamed the frontier, John.
690
00:24:44,617 --> 00:24:46,619
We did that already.
691
00:24:46,619 --> 00:24:49,155
you're taking advantage
of the shooting in Abilene.
692
00:24:49,155 --> 00:24:50,489
That you like it
693
00:24:50,489 --> 00:24:52,124
when these things
happen, 'cause it
694
00:24:52,124 --> 00:24:53,292
gives you a chance...
695
00:24:53,292 --> 00:24:55,628
Let them stand in this room
and say that.
696
00:24:55,628 --> 00:24:56,763
On this day.
697
00:24:56,763 --> 00:24:58,297
Let them stand in this room.
698
00:24:58,297 --> 00:24:59,131
I like it?!
699
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,134
She was nine years old!
700
00:25:02,134 --> 00:25:02,902
( knock at door )
701
00:25:19,552 --> 00:25:20,887
Green Bay lost.
702
00:25:22,855 --> 00:25:24,591
She was nine years old.
703
00:25:24,591 --> 00:25:25,858
You know, last month in Idaho
704
00:25:25,858 --> 00:25:27,560
a man killed six members
of his family
705
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,697
including his
pregnant wife.
706
00:25:30,697 --> 00:25:32,732
And you know why
the liberal intelligentsia
707
00:25:32,732 --> 00:25:34,033
didn't go crazy?
708
00:25:34,033 --> 00:25:35,935
'Cause he did it with an ax.
709
00:25:35,935 --> 00:25:38,104
You think we need ax control?
710
00:25:38,104 --> 00:25:40,206
Well...
that is an excellent point.
711
00:25:40,206 --> 00:25:41,708
I never saw it that way.
712
00:25:41,708 --> 00:25:42,775
I'm playing devil's advocate.
713
00:25:42,775 --> 00:25:44,811
Tighter ax control.
714
00:25:44,811 --> 00:25:46,579
You come down on firearms,
you come down on tobacco
715
00:25:46,579 --> 00:25:49,015
you come down on alcohol,
but you let Griffith run around
716
00:25:49,015 --> 00:25:50,216
talking about
legalizing marijuana.
717
00:25:50,216 --> 00:25:51,818
She didn't...
Sir...
718
00:25:51,818 --> 00:25:52,885
You know what?
719
00:25:52,885 --> 00:25:54,520
Last year-- gun deaths?
720
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:55,755
30,708.
721
00:25:55,755 --> 00:25:57,189
Alcohol deaths?
722
00:25:57,189 --> 00:25:59,291
35,450.
723
00:25:59,291 --> 00:26:02,261
Tobacco deaths? 400,000.
724
00:26:02,261 --> 00:26:03,996
Marijuana deaths?
Zero.
725
00:26:03,996 --> 00:26:05,965
This guy?
The second shooter-- Rambo?
726
00:26:05,965 --> 00:26:08,067
He's going to get nothing;
he's going to get a parade.
727
00:26:08,067 --> 00:26:08,901
You know why?
728
00:26:08,901 --> 00:26:10,102
There was no sign
729
00:26:10,102 --> 00:26:11,871
posted in the church
saying you can't carry
730
00:26:11,871 --> 00:26:13,806
a concealed weapon.
731
00:26:13,806 --> 00:26:16,542
I'm just playing
devil's advocate.
732
00:26:16,542 --> 00:26:18,745
She was nine years old.
733
00:26:18,745 --> 00:26:20,512
LEO:
Two things--
734
00:26:20,512 --> 00:26:23,315
one, technically it's not
just a court for war crimes.
735
00:26:23,315 --> 00:26:24,851
Technically?
736
00:26:24,851 --> 00:26:28,220
And two: The President
hasn't made up his mind yet.
737
00:26:28,220 --> 00:26:29,555
Well, the U.N. has.
738
00:26:29,555 --> 00:26:31,858
The U.N. made up
its mind in 1948
739
00:26:31,858 --> 00:26:33,893
when they recognized
the crime of genocide.
740
00:26:33,893 --> 00:26:35,461
Yes...
A crime so immense
741
00:26:35,461 --> 00:26:37,630
as to exceed the jurisdiction
742
00:26:37,630 --> 00:26:39,666
of any single court
or government.
743
00:26:39,666 --> 00:26:41,734
Alan, systematic extermination
of civilians
744
00:26:41,734 --> 00:26:43,903
enslavement, torture,
rape, forced pregnancy
745
00:26:43,903 --> 00:26:45,872
terrorism-- doesn't
the world need
746
00:26:45,872 --> 00:26:47,740
a permanent standing body...?
747
00:26:47,740 --> 00:26:49,776
National sovereignty
is at stake.
748
00:26:49,776 --> 00:26:51,844
Americans
are answerable
749
00:26:51,844 --> 00:26:53,646
to no one
but their own government
750
00:26:53,646 --> 00:26:55,181
and their own laws.
751
00:26:55,181 --> 00:26:56,816
And people need to be reminded
752
00:26:56,816 --> 00:26:57,917
that the U.N. is not
a democratic organization.
753
00:26:57,917 --> 00:26:59,418
There's no input
754
00:26:59,418 --> 00:27:00,987
into its deliberations by any...
755
00:27:00,987 --> 00:27:05,357
Come on; the court is designed
with plenty of safeguards
756
00:27:05,357 --> 00:27:07,159
if we don't subject ourselves
to the treaty
757
00:27:07,159 --> 00:27:08,828
it will encourage
other countries.
758
00:27:08,828 --> 00:27:11,030
Sure.
And you don't think
that'll undercut
759
00:27:11,030 --> 00:27:12,865
the U.N.'s campaign
against war crimes?
760
00:27:12,865 --> 00:27:14,100
( knock at door )
761
00:27:14,100 --> 00:27:15,968
Excuse me.
762
00:27:15,968 --> 00:27:19,238
Excuse me, General.
Hey, Sam.
763
00:27:19,238 --> 00:27:21,107
If you're in the middle of
something, I can come back.
764
00:27:21,107 --> 00:27:21,974
We're eliminating genocide.
765
00:27:21,974 --> 00:27:23,009
What are you doing?
766
00:27:23,009 --> 00:27:24,944
Eliminating the penny.
767
00:27:24,944 --> 00:27:26,946
So I'll come back.
768
00:27:26,946 --> 00:27:27,980
Yeah.
See you later.
769
00:27:32,384 --> 00:27:34,186
Hey.
Hi.
770
00:27:34,186 --> 00:27:35,154
How did it go?
771
00:27:35,154 --> 00:27:36,055
It went fine.
772
00:27:36,055 --> 00:27:38,057
Just background,
right?
773
00:27:38,057 --> 00:27:38,825
It was fine.
774
00:27:38,825 --> 00:27:40,292
Is Josh in his office?
775
00:27:40,292 --> 00:27:41,160
He's around someplace.
776
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,062
Thanks.
777
00:27:43,062 --> 00:27:45,164
Do you know the only thing
pennies interact with
778
00:27:45,164 --> 00:27:46,532
are those coin wrapping
machines
779
00:27:46,532 --> 00:27:47,934
people buy
to get rid of pennies?
780
00:27:47,934 --> 00:27:49,235
Which kind of
proves the point.
781
00:27:49,235 --> 00:27:51,203
What point?
782
00:27:51,203 --> 00:27:51,871
I don't know.
783
00:27:51,871 --> 00:27:53,172
It went okay?
784
00:27:53,172 --> 00:27:54,273
Fine.
785
00:28:01,881 --> 00:28:03,382
How'd it go?
786
00:28:03,382 --> 00:28:04,951
I really need
to talk to you
for a second.
787
00:28:04,951 --> 00:28:06,018
What happened?
788
00:28:06,018 --> 00:28:07,119
I need to just...
789
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,487
Can we go in your office?
790
00:28:08,487 --> 00:28:09,688
Hey, how'd it go?
Fine.
791
00:28:11,290 --> 00:28:12,424
What happened?
792
00:28:12,424 --> 00:28:14,660
I was asked if I kept a diary,
and I said no
793
00:28:14,660 --> 00:28:16,162
only I do keep a diary.
794
00:28:16,162 --> 00:28:18,164
Why did you
say you didn't?
795
00:28:18,164 --> 00:28:20,066
I don't know.
What do you mean,
you don't know?
796
00:28:20,066 --> 00:28:21,567
Nothing in the diary
is relevant.
797
00:28:21,567 --> 00:28:22,468
Is there anyone
on the witness list
798
00:28:22,468 --> 00:28:23,669
who knows you keep one?
799
00:28:23,669 --> 00:28:25,471
There's nobody who knows
I keep a diary
800
00:28:25,471 --> 00:28:26,338
except the thing is...
801
00:28:26,338 --> 00:28:27,706
Cliff saw it.
802
00:28:27,706 --> 00:28:29,608
What do you mean?
Cliff came to me
803
00:28:29,608 --> 00:28:32,511
after the deposition
and told me he saw the diary
804
00:28:32,511 --> 00:28:33,445
when he was
in my apartment.
805
00:28:36,548 --> 00:28:38,484
I swear it wasn't premeditated.
806
00:28:38,484 --> 00:28:39,986
Nothing in it was material...
807
00:28:39,986 --> 00:28:41,587
You don't get to decide that!
808
00:28:41,587 --> 00:28:45,024
You don't get to decide what's
material and what isn't, Donna!
809
00:28:45,024 --> 00:28:47,259
Please keep your voice down.
810
00:28:47,259 --> 00:28:48,594
They got nothing
on the President with MS
811
00:28:48,594 --> 00:28:49,728
they're trolling
812
00:28:49,728 --> 00:28:51,330
then you go in
and hand them a...
813
00:28:51,330 --> 00:28:53,099
You were subpoenaed.
814
00:28:53,099 --> 00:28:54,200
You answer the damn question!
815
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:55,434
I screwed up.
You think?!
816
00:29:00,773 --> 00:29:02,942
What should I do?
817
00:29:02,942 --> 00:29:04,777
Do nothing.
818
00:29:04,777 --> 00:29:06,512
Do absolutely nothing.
819
00:29:16,655 --> 00:29:18,490
( door closes )
820
00:29:33,239 --> 00:29:36,408
( junior staffers murmuring )
821
00:29:46,986 --> 00:29:49,288
( room falls silent )
822
00:30:03,870 --> 00:30:05,905
There's an old saying.
823
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:13,279
"Those who speak don't know,
and those who know don't speak."
824
00:30:13,279 --> 00:30:15,614
I don't know
if that's true or not
825
00:30:15,614 --> 00:30:18,784
but I know that, by and large,
the press doesn't care
826
00:30:18,784 --> 00:30:21,921
who really knows what
as long as they've got a quote.
827
00:30:21,921 --> 00:30:24,590
Last Friday,
we had our Week Ahead meeting
828
00:30:24,590 --> 00:30:26,025
in the Roosevelt Room.
829
00:30:26,025 --> 00:30:28,827
Some of you were there,
most of you weren't
830
00:30:28,827 --> 00:30:30,997
but I'm talking
to all of you now.
831
00:30:30,997 --> 00:30:34,033
Bruno Gianelli and I were
leading a discussion
832
00:30:34,033 --> 00:30:35,767
about whether or not
the President should stop
833
00:30:35,767 --> 00:30:38,537
in Kansas on his way back
from the West Coast
834
00:30:38,537 --> 00:30:42,774
and I remarked that the Vice
President is polling better
835
00:30:42,774 --> 00:30:45,644
than the President right now
in the plains states
836
00:30:45,644 --> 00:30:47,513
and that if the President
is re-elected
837
00:30:47,513 --> 00:30:49,748
it's going to be on the
Vice President's coattails.
838
00:30:49,748 --> 00:30:51,583
That remark made its way
to a White House reporter.
839
00:30:55,821 --> 00:30:57,523
We're a group.
840
00:30:57,523 --> 00:30:58,757
( chuckles )
841
00:30:58,757 --> 00:31:00,826
We're a team.
842
00:31:00,826 --> 00:31:03,062
From the President and Leo
on through, we're a team.
843
00:31:05,898 --> 00:31:09,035
We win together,
we lose together.
844
00:31:11,470 --> 00:31:13,705
We celebrate,
and we mourn together.
845
00:31:13,705 --> 00:31:16,142
And defeats are softened
and victories sweetened
846
00:31:16,142 --> 00:31:18,077
because we did them together.
847
00:31:21,247 --> 00:31:23,983
And if you don't like
this team...
848
00:31:23,983 --> 00:31:25,918
then there's the door.
849
00:31:30,056 --> 00:31:32,224
It's great to be in the know.
850
00:31:32,224 --> 00:31:34,726
It's great to have the scoop,
to have the skinny.
851
00:31:34,726 --> 00:31:36,762
To be able to go to a reporter
852
00:31:36,762 --> 00:31:38,564
and say, "I know something
you don't know."
853
00:31:41,100 --> 00:31:43,102
And so the press becomes
your constituents
854
00:31:43,102 --> 00:31:44,670
and you sell out the team.
855
00:31:47,106 --> 00:31:51,043
So, an item will appear
in the paper tomorrow
856
00:31:51,043 --> 00:31:53,079
and it'll be embarrassing to me
857
00:31:53,079 --> 00:31:55,314
and embarrassing
to the President.
858
00:31:59,551 --> 00:32:01,720
I'm not going
to have a witch hunt.
859
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,489
I'm not going to huff and puff.
860
00:32:03,489 --> 00:32:05,757
I'm not going
to take anyone's head off.
861
00:32:05,757 --> 00:32:08,160
I'm simply going to say this:
862
00:32:11,030 --> 00:32:15,201
You're my guys, and I'm yours...
863
00:32:17,736 --> 00:32:19,938
and there's nothing
I wouldn't do for you.
864
00:32:31,550 --> 00:32:33,585
That was unexpected.
865
00:32:33,585 --> 00:32:34,953
Yeah.
866
00:32:34,953 --> 00:32:38,257
You're a good
deputy, Sam.
867
00:32:38,257 --> 00:32:40,426
What do you mean?
868
00:32:40,426 --> 00:32:42,461
That.
869
00:32:42,461 --> 00:32:44,730
You won money on
football today,
didn't you?
870
00:32:44,730 --> 00:32:45,931
Yeah, but I mean it anyway.
871
00:32:45,931 --> 00:32:47,199
What can I do
for you today?
872
00:32:47,199 --> 00:32:48,500
How can I help you out?
873
00:32:48,500 --> 00:32:49,635
You can give
me a good reason
874
00:32:49,635 --> 00:32:52,004
why the White
House can't support
875
00:32:52,004 --> 00:32:54,040
This is the Legal Tender...
Huckleberry Bill?
876
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,807
Modernization
Bill, yeah.
877
00:32:55,807 --> 00:32:57,543
because it'll never get
to the floor.
878
00:32:57,543 --> 00:32:59,711
Why not?
879
00:32:59,711 --> 00:33:02,448
He's from Illinois, which,
by the way, is the only state
880
00:33:02,448 --> 00:33:04,183
where you can put pennies
in a toll machine.
881
00:33:04,183 --> 00:33:05,584
Why is that
do you suppose?
882
00:33:05,584 --> 00:33:06,485
It's because...
883
00:33:06,485 --> 00:33:09,588
It's because Lincoln's
from Illinois!
884
00:33:09,588 --> 00:33:11,557
Yes.
Well, that's a good reason.
885
00:33:11,557 --> 00:33:13,125
Well, it's a dumb reason,
but it's good enough
886
00:33:13,125 --> 00:33:14,560
right?
887
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,628
Sure.
888
00:33:16,628 --> 00:33:17,629
Thank you.
889
00:33:17,629 --> 00:33:19,465
Yeah.
890
00:33:19,465 --> 00:33:20,566
And thanks for
the other thing.
891
00:33:20,566 --> 00:33:22,834
Yeah.
892
00:33:22,834 --> 00:33:23,835
Hi.
893
00:33:23,835 --> 00:33:24,870
Hi.
894
00:33:24,870 --> 00:33:26,038
What do you need?
895
00:33:26,038 --> 00:33:27,473
You called me.
Yes, I did.
896
00:33:27,473 --> 00:33:29,175
Well, Toby made the remark
897
00:33:29,175 --> 00:33:31,143
in response
to some new polling data.
898
00:33:31,143 --> 00:33:32,644
It was offhand.
899
00:33:32,644 --> 00:33:35,381
Obviously, he meant it
as a joke, and he regrets it.
900
00:33:35,381 --> 00:33:36,515
Okay.
901
00:33:36,515 --> 00:33:38,417
He'll be happy
to go on the record with you.
902
00:33:38,417 --> 00:33:39,551
No, that's
all right.
903
00:33:39,551 --> 00:33:41,787
What do you mean?
904
00:33:41,787 --> 00:33:43,922
You're not going
to let Toby explain himself?
905
00:33:43,922 --> 00:33:44,923
I'm not writing it.
906
00:33:44,923 --> 00:33:46,558
Why not?
907
00:33:46,558 --> 00:33:48,527
It's not news.
908
00:33:48,527 --> 00:33:49,728
Really?
909
00:33:49,728 --> 00:33:50,729
Yeah.
910
00:33:50,729 --> 00:33:52,531
Okay.
911
00:33:52,531 --> 00:33:56,502
I'll see you
in there.
912
00:33:56,502 --> 00:33:58,003
You weren't joking before,
were you?
913
00:33:58,003 --> 00:33:59,037
When?
914
00:33:59,037 --> 00:33:59,838
When you said...
915
00:33:59,838 --> 00:34:00,872
No.
916
00:34:00,872 --> 00:34:02,040
Why do you think
917
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,675
the White House is a bad beat?
918
00:34:03,675 --> 00:34:06,078
I don't like being
a stenographer.
919
00:34:06,078 --> 00:34:08,080
And I don't like writing gossip.
920
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,881
I read a column last week
921
00:34:09,881 --> 00:34:13,819
where a lady bemoaned a decade
of scandals she's had to cover
922
00:34:13,819 --> 00:34:16,288
as if the news was to blame
for the quality
923
00:34:16,288 --> 00:34:18,724
of journalism.
924
00:34:18,724 --> 00:34:21,827
ever been a more important time
to be good at what I do.
925
00:34:21,827 --> 00:34:24,196
Can you imagine
how much
926
00:34:24,196 --> 00:34:26,132
about what Toby said
to a staffer?
927
00:34:26,132 --> 00:34:28,834
Yeah.
928
00:34:28,834 --> 00:34:30,469
All right.
929
00:34:33,105 --> 00:34:34,806
You can sit anywhere you want.
930
00:34:37,676 --> 00:34:39,411
LEO:
139 countries have signed.
931
00:34:39,411 --> 00:34:41,113
35 have ratified.
932
00:34:41,113 --> 00:34:43,482
Once 60 ratify,
that's the ball game.
933
00:34:43,482 --> 00:34:45,050
You want to
be left out?
934
00:34:45,050 --> 00:34:47,419
Absolutely.
935
00:34:47,419 --> 00:34:49,588
This is going to raise 19 kinds
of hell in Congress.
936
00:34:49,588 --> 00:34:51,390
What doesn't?
They are already
937
00:34:51,390 --> 00:34:53,792
extreme Republicans
who are attaching amendments
938
00:34:53,792 --> 00:34:56,162
to bills cutting off
military aid
939
00:34:56,162 --> 00:34:57,863
to any NATO member
that signs the treaty...
940
00:34:57,863 --> 00:34:58,864
That won't happen.
941
00:34:58,864 --> 00:35:00,199
...and committing
942
00:35:00,199 --> 00:35:02,868
the U.S. to forcibly rescue
any American soldier
943
00:35:02,868 --> 00:35:04,703
held and tried
in such a court.
944
00:35:04,703 --> 00:35:06,905
Leo, this commits
the United States
945
00:35:06,905 --> 00:35:10,709
to a scenario
where we'd be invading Holland!
946
00:35:10,709 --> 00:35:12,077
How much of this is
about hedging our bets?
947
00:35:12,077 --> 00:35:13,479
It's not.
948
00:35:13,479 --> 00:35:15,181
Look, we set
up Nuremberg!
949
00:35:15,181 --> 00:35:16,882
We set up the Tokyo
War Crimes Trial.
950
00:35:16,882 --> 00:35:19,618
And that was fine,
until we realized
951
00:35:19,618 --> 00:35:22,521
the Cold War threat was
going to take precedence.
952
00:35:22,521 --> 00:35:24,490
So when the
German rocket
953
00:35:24,490 --> 00:35:26,692
scientists came here
to help us get into space...
954
00:35:26,692 --> 00:35:28,594
Oh, please.
...we looked
the other way
955
00:35:28,594 --> 00:35:31,263
while SS Officers followed
right behind
956
00:35:31,263 --> 00:35:33,565
protected
by American
intelligence
957
00:35:33,565 --> 00:35:36,402
services, 'cause they were going
to help us with the Communists.
958
00:35:36,402 --> 00:35:37,503
Oh, please, Alan?
959
00:35:37,503 --> 00:35:40,539
So...
960
00:35:40,539 --> 00:35:42,808
how much of this
is hedging our bets?
961
00:35:47,078 --> 00:35:48,847
( clears throat )
962
00:35:52,117 --> 00:35:54,253
You remember Operation
Rolling Thunder?
963
00:35:56,121 --> 00:35:57,389
Yeah.
964
00:35:57,389 --> 00:35:58,790
I think I do, yeah.
965
00:35:58,790 --> 00:36:02,228
September, 1966.
966
00:36:02,228 --> 00:36:06,965
You were piloting
an F-105 Fighterchief.
967
00:36:06,965 --> 00:36:08,534
This was our first unit--
968
00:36:08,534 --> 00:36:11,270
the 355th Tactical Fighter Wing
out of Thailand.
969
00:36:11,270 --> 00:36:13,372
Yeah.
I was Forward
Air Commander.
970
00:36:13,372 --> 00:36:16,007
I gave you your directions.
971
00:36:16,007 --> 00:36:19,811
"From I.P., heading 273
for ten point five miles
972
00:36:19,811 --> 00:36:21,480
"your target is
973
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,816
"north-south running bridge
over river, one kilometer
974
00:36:24,816 --> 00:36:27,586
to the tree line
running east-west."
975
00:36:27,586 --> 00:36:28,787
Yeah?
976
00:36:31,657 --> 00:36:33,892
It was a military target.
977
00:36:33,892 --> 00:36:35,060
It was a civilian target.
978
00:36:35,060 --> 00:36:36,362
It was a dam.
979
00:36:36,362 --> 00:36:37,563
There were 11
civilian casualties.
980
00:36:54,012 --> 00:36:55,847
Why did you tell me that?
981
00:36:55,847 --> 00:36:59,285
Because you could be charged
and tried for a war crime.
982
00:37:13,299 --> 00:37:15,967
Why did you tell me that?
983
00:37:19,838 --> 00:37:22,608
All wars are crimes.
984
00:37:24,009 --> 00:37:25,911
( sighs )
985
00:37:37,289 --> 00:37:39,858
We've been here a while.
986
00:37:39,858 --> 00:37:41,092
Yeah.
987
00:37:41,092 --> 00:37:43,662
Maybe we'll call
it a day, huh?
Yeah.
988
00:37:43,662 --> 00:37:47,299
I'll get you some time
with the President this week.
989
00:37:49,468 --> 00:37:51,703
I'd appreciate that.
990
00:37:53,839 --> 00:37:55,941
Thank you.
991
00:37:59,811 --> 00:38:01,647
Thank you.
992
00:38:18,497 --> 00:38:20,466
Can I ask a question,
just out of curiosity?
993
00:38:20,466 --> 00:38:22,067
Yes, sir.
994
00:38:22,067 --> 00:38:24,235
If guns are meant
to deter the threat of crime
995
00:38:24,235 --> 00:38:25,904
what's the point
of concealing them?
996
00:38:25,904 --> 00:38:27,973
I mean, wouldn't you want
the criminal to see
997
00:38:27,973 --> 00:38:29,040
that you've got a gun?
998
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,642
I suppose
you would.
999
00:38:30,642 --> 00:38:32,344
Then what's the answer
to that?
1000
00:38:32,344 --> 00:38:34,045
I really don't
know, sir.
1001
00:38:34,045 --> 00:38:35,547
You don't know.
No, sir.
1002
00:38:35,547 --> 00:38:38,116
I suppose the concern has more
to do
1003
00:38:38,116 --> 00:38:40,986
We can't all just agree
it's a stupid-ass amendment
1004
00:38:40,986 --> 00:38:43,355
that was written
before there were street lamps
1005
00:38:43,355 --> 00:38:44,823
much less police forces,
and move on?
1006
00:38:44,823 --> 00:38:45,791
Sir...
1007
00:38:45,791 --> 00:38:46,992
There's no need
1008
00:38:46,992 --> 00:38:48,360
for a citizen militia.
1009
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,261
I agree with you.
1010
00:38:50,261 --> 00:38:54,032
40 percent of Americans have
a gun in their home.
1011
00:38:54,032 --> 00:38:55,401
Only 16 percent believe
1012
00:38:55,401 --> 00:38:57,669
gun ownership is
an absolute right.
1013
00:38:57,669 --> 00:38:59,905
Only nine percent believe
it's an absolute wrong.
1014
00:38:59,905 --> 00:39:02,207
There's a middle.
1015
00:39:02,207 --> 00:39:04,275
Not when we're running the
MS defense, Mr. President.
1016
00:39:04,275 --> 00:39:05,677
Which we wouldn't have been
doing if...
1017
00:39:07,846 --> 00:39:09,681
If what, sir?
1018
00:39:09,681 --> 00:39:11,116
Nothing.
1019
00:39:11,116 --> 00:39:13,351
Sir...
You outed me, John.
1020
00:39:13,351 --> 00:39:14,753
With that trip
1021
00:39:14,753 --> 00:39:16,922
to Nashua,
with the oil companies.
1022
00:39:16,922 --> 00:39:19,357
You wanted people
to start asking questions.
1023
00:39:19,357 --> 00:39:20,626
I needed to
start running
1024
00:39:20,626 --> 00:39:22,694
because nobody told
me that I wasn't!
1025
00:39:22,694 --> 00:39:23,862
And you announced it!
1026
00:39:23,862 --> 00:39:25,697
I found out
on television!
1027
00:39:25,697 --> 00:39:26,665
So did my wife.
This whole thing
1028
00:39:26,665 --> 00:39:27,899
was mismanaged, sir.
1029
00:39:27,899 --> 00:39:28,767
Look...
1030
00:39:28,767 --> 00:39:30,235
It was blown!
Yes, it was.
1031
00:39:30,235 --> 00:39:31,102
Yes, it was.
1032
00:39:36,775 --> 00:39:39,411
It's not easy being
my Vice President, is it?
1033
00:39:39,411 --> 00:39:40,446
( sighing )
1034
00:39:40,446 --> 00:39:42,347
No, sir.
1035
00:39:42,347 --> 00:39:44,883
I wouldn't think so.
1036
00:39:50,789 --> 00:39:51,957
But it's the only way
1037
00:39:51,957 --> 00:39:53,759
you're going
to get the nomination.
1038
00:39:53,759 --> 00:39:55,293
You know that, right?
1039
00:39:55,293 --> 00:39:56,462
If I win.
1040
00:39:56,462 --> 00:39:59,631
Yeah.
1041
00:39:59,631 --> 00:40:02,033
And the only way
you're going to win...
1042
00:40:02,033 --> 00:40:03,769
is if I'm on the ticket.
1043
00:40:03,769 --> 00:40:05,804
You know that, don't you, sir?
1044
00:40:05,804 --> 00:40:07,706
Yeah.
1045
00:40:09,575 --> 00:40:11,443
You'll go to Texas?
1046
00:40:13,712 --> 00:40:16,081
I want a seat at the table.
1047
00:40:16,081 --> 00:40:17,182
Yeah.
1048
00:40:17,182 --> 00:40:19,518
( knock at door )
1049
00:40:19,518 --> 00:40:21,419
Mr. President?
Yeah.
1050
00:40:21,419 --> 00:40:23,522
They're getting
ready for you in
the briefing room.
1051
00:40:23,522 --> 00:40:24,523
Thank you.
1052
00:40:27,593 --> 00:40:29,227
I'll be back
in my office.
1053
00:40:29,227 --> 00:40:30,562
Yeah.
1054
00:40:30,562 --> 00:40:31,963
Is there anything else, sir?
1055
00:40:31,963 --> 00:40:33,198
No.
1056
00:40:33,198 --> 00:40:35,166
Thank you, Mr. President.
1057
00:40:38,670 --> 00:40:42,808
( rolling thunder )
1058
00:41:14,005 --> 00:41:16,742
There's a coffee shop
across the street.
1059
00:41:16,742 --> 00:41:18,544
You can read it there,
you've got an hour.
1060
00:41:20,679 --> 00:41:23,882
I haven't read it,
but if anything bothers you
1061
00:41:23,882 --> 00:41:25,851
you'll issue a subpoena
in the morning
1062
00:41:25,851 --> 00:41:27,853
and you'll have it back
before the end of the day.
1063
00:41:27,853 --> 00:41:30,889
If not, that's that.
1064
00:41:30,889 --> 00:41:32,023
Yeah.
1065
00:41:32,023 --> 00:41:33,692
If I read any of this
in the newspaper
1066
00:41:33,692 --> 00:41:36,094
or anything happens
I don't like
1067
00:41:36,094 --> 00:41:39,430
I've got the entries
for October fourth and fifth.
1068
00:41:39,430 --> 00:41:41,933
What's October
fourth and fifth?
1069
00:41:41,933 --> 00:41:44,603
You.
1070
00:41:44,603 --> 00:41:47,205
That's fair.
1071
00:41:50,609 --> 00:41:52,143
Thank you.
1072
00:42:23,274 --> 00:42:25,844
It's starting
to get cold already.
1073
00:42:33,785 --> 00:42:35,721
It's going
to be fine.
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