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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:09,574 --> 00:00:14,057 Space, the final frontier. 2 00:00:15,232 --> 00:00:17,365 For well over 50 years, 3 00:00:17,408 --> 00:00:21,456 a fearless crew of pioneers have faced the unknown... 4 00:00:22,413 --> 00:00:23,719 Out there. 5 00:00:23,762 --> 00:00:26,243 ...on an endless quest, looking for stars... 6 00:00:26,287 --> 00:00:28,550 - That way. - ...but not up there in space. 7 00:00:28,593 --> 00:00:30,465 More that direction. 8 00:00:30,508 --> 00:00:35,513 Down here in sector 001, otherwise known as Hollywood, 9 00:00:35,557 --> 00:00:38,125 where you'll find every species in the galaxy. 10 00:00:38,168 --> 00:00:39,691 You see, I'm an actor. 11 00:00:39,735 --> 00:00:42,607 Every actor in town worked on those shows. 12 00:00:42,651 --> 00:00:45,393 And this is the story, not of the captains... 13 00:00:45,436 --> 00:00:47,438 - Aye, Captain. - ...or the ships they commanded, 14 00:00:47,482 --> 00:00:49,571 - but of the first officers... - Fire. 15 00:00:49,614 --> 00:00:52,139 - ...crew... - It was a great part to get to play. 16 00:00:52,182 --> 00:00:54,445 - ...the occasional doctor. - That's odd. 17 00:00:54,489 --> 00:00:56,230 Actually, that's me. 18 00:00:56,273 --> 00:01:01,409 And of course, there were many, many aliens. - 19 00:01:01,452 --> 00:01:04,238 From the original series... - Captain. 20 00:01:04,281 --> 00:01:08,024 ...to the movies and every T.V. series since... - Engage. 21 00:01:08,068 --> 00:01:11,245 Yes! It was one of those great actor moments. 22 00:01:11,288 --> 00:01:14,944 - It was horrifying. -Star Trek means so much to so many. 23 00:01:14,987 --> 00:01:17,512 You're Brad Pitt, mate, and they all want a piece of you. 24 00:01:17,555 --> 00:01:19,427 You can get Trekkies from birth to death. 25 00:01:19,470 --> 00:01:22,691 And be it the big bucks, or sad minimum... 26 00:01:22,734 --> 00:01:24,736 Co-workers were a pain in the ass. 27 00:01:24,780 --> 00:01:26,999 ...it's the actors who bringsStar Trek to life. 28 00:01:27,043 --> 00:01:28,523 I fake for a living. It's what I do. 29 00:01:30,133 --> 00:01:31,917 From the series regulars... 30 00:01:31,961 --> 00:01:36,661 I was hired to play this character on the pilot, and that was it. 31 00:01:36,705 --> 00:01:38,533 ...big parts, guest spots... 32 00:01:38,576 --> 00:01:40,317 Guest stars. 33 00:01:40,361 --> 00:01:44,669 And I played Rain Robinson in Star Trek: Voyagerin 1997. 34 00:01:46,236 --> 00:01:49,021 So, beam aboard and hold on tight 35 00:01:49,065 --> 00:01:52,242 as we boldly meet the actors ofStar Trek... 36 00:01:55,419 --> 00:01:59,945 and you can see it all from here inThe Center Seat. 37 00:02:03,427 --> 00:02:09,041 During stardate 1950s, mankind had long been looking up at the stars... 38 00:02:09,085 --> 00:02:11,827 ...and quickly back down again toward movie screens. 39 00:02:11,870 --> 00:02:13,307 That is correct, sir. 40 00:02:13,350 --> 00:02:16,614 Fascinated by an unknown fictional universe, 41 00:02:16,658 --> 00:02:21,010 out of reach from science but well within the grasp of our imaginations, 42 00:02:21,053 --> 00:02:23,491 We have come to visit you in peace, 43 00:02:23,534 --> 00:02:25,101 and with goodwill. 44 00:02:25,145 --> 00:02:27,973 So for a young actor, back then, making it big 45 00:02:28,017 --> 00:02:30,193 sometimes meant shooting for the stars. 46 00:02:30,237 --> 00:02:31,716 I think they're all dead. 47 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,457 I was always interested in science fiction, 48 00:02:33,501 --> 00:02:37,505 and I had worked in science fiction all the way back to 1950, 49 00:02:37,548 --> 00:02:40,334 Zombies of the Stratosphere. 50 00:02:40,377 --> 00:02:44,512 Instead of plummeting through the stratosphere and back to earth with a thud, 51 00:02:44,555 --> 00:02:47,515 Leonard Nimoy was destined for far greater heights. 52 00:02:47,558 --> 00:02:49,952 I was working pretty good at the time. 53 00:02:49,995 --> 00:02:53,825 My career was moving along nicely. 54 00:02:53,869 --> 00:02:57,438 So, when an ex-World War II fighter pilot turned airline pilot 55 00:02:57,481 --> 00:03:01,790 turned LAPD officer named Gene Roddenberry, 56 00:03:01,833 --> 00:03:04,227 turned his hand to script writing, 57 00:03:04,271 --> 00:03:08,971 well, Leonard Nimoy's ears didn't exactly prick up. 58 00:03:09,014 --> 00:03:11,539 "He's going to produce a pilot, you might be cast in it, 59 00:03:11,582 --> 00:03:13,628 "It might be sold and it might go on the air." 60 00:03:13,671 --> 00:03:15,499 You know, it was all those maybes. 61 00:03:15,543 --> 00:03:18,285 And if it was going to happen, they'd probably need a... 62 00:03:18,328 --> 00:03:20,330 - Captain. - Yes, sir. 63 00:03:20,374 --> 00:03:25,117 Shatner, I think the one big film that he got was Judgment at Nuremberg. 64 00:03:25,161 --> 00:03:28,643 And everything... His career pointed right to him becoming, 65 00:03:28,686 --> 00:03:32,516 uh, you know, the next movie star. 66 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,301 Okay, Judge. 67 00:03:34,344 --> 00:03:37,217 I would have kept him away from television if I were his agent. 68 00:03:37,260 --> 00:03:40,698 But as it turns out, look at this long, long, long career. 69 00:03:40,742 --> 00:03:42,309 Set warp factor one. 70 00:03:42,352 --> 00:03:44,833 And there's just a magnetism to him 71 00:03:44,876 --> 00:03:48,402 in his portrayal that I think is really key to the success of the show. 72 00:03:48,445 --> 00:03:50,317 But they could not do it alone. 73 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,884 Regarding the casting, the easiest place to go 74 00:03:52,928 --> 00:03:55,322 was people that we were both familiar with, 75 00:03:55,365 --> 00:03:57,541 that we had both used in The Lieutenant. 76 00:03:57,585 --> 00:04:00,936 My first television thing I did, 77 00:04:00,979 --> 00:04:04,287 the producer-director was Gene Roddenberry, 78 00:04:04,331 --> 00:04:07,334 I was just like, "Hey, let's go!" you know. 79 00:04:07,377 --> 00:04:09,423 And boldly go, they did. 80 00:04:09,466 --> 00:04:11,207 It was an interracial show 81 00:04:11,251 --> 00:04:13,470 of equal people doing equal things. 82 00:04:13,514 --> 00:04:14,906 Transmission has been cut off. 83 00:04:14,950 --> 00:04:17,605 I was the first African-American actress 84 00:04:17,648 --> 00:04:20,564 in a leading role on television. 85 00:04:20,608 --> 00:04:23,175 But in Hollywood, opportunities to play 86 00:04:23,219 --> 00:04:27,092 an iconic character like this are few and far between. 87 00:04:27,136 --> 00:04:31,706 It's the luck of the draw for freelance actors. 88 00:04:31,749 --> 00:04:33,708 You never know what's coming down the pipe. 89 00:04:33,751 --> 00:04:36,232 This business is so extraordinary 90 00:04:36,276 --> 00:04:39,453 in terms of the serendipity, in terms of the coincidence, 91 00:04:39,496 --> 00:04:42,630 I know this saying. It was invented in Russia. 92 00:04:42,673 --> 00:04:46,198 Three years before Star Trek, I was brought in to read for a role 93 00:04:46,242 --> 00:04:48,679 of a Russian student who was defecting. 94 00:04:48,723 --> 00:04:50,507 It was a show calledMr. Novak. 95 00:04:50,551 --> 00:04:53,336 "You Americans live in a world of dreams." 96 00:04:53,380 --> 00:04:55,077 I remember, that was one of the lines. 97 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,993 Three years later, I get the call for Star Trek. 98 00:04:58,036 --> 00:04:59,168 Makes me homesick, 99 00:04:59,995 --> 00:05:01,431 just like Russia. 100 00:05:01,475 --> 00:05:03,825 More like the Garden of Eden, Ensign. 101 00:05:03,868 --> 00:05:07,350 Of course, doctor. The Garden of Eden was just outside Moscow. 102 00:05:07,394 --> 00:05:09,134 Now he looked like a Beatle. But that was okay. 103 00:05:09,178 --> 00:05:11,572 Be it the original series or today, 104 00:05:11,615 --> 00:05:15,445 actors need gigs, andStar Trek had plenty. 105 00:05:15,489 --> 00:05:18,535 As an agent, I thought that Star Trek 106 00:05:18,579 --> 00:05:21,495 was a great starting point for a lot of people, 107 00:05:21,538 --> 00:05:24,411 and often, it would be their first television job. 108 00:05:24,454 --> 00:05:26,369 I always thought that I would come to LA, 109 00:05:26,413 --> 00:05:29,111 and be on a great cop show like NYPD Blue. 110 00:05:29,154 --> 00:05:32,157 But then, I started booking Star Trek. That was my first gig. 111 00:05:32,201 --> 00:05:33,855 The same was true for Sarah Silverman. 112 00:05:33,898 --> 00:05:35,857 You know, I was taking it really seriously, 113 00:05:35,900 --> 00:05:39,382 and I took a... I went to an acting coach. 114 00:05:39,426 --> 00:05:42,603 Go back down the hall, take a left at Mars, right at Haley's Comet. 115 00:05:42,646 --> 00:05:44,822 I got to say really serious lines like... 116 00:05:44,866 --> 00:05:46,128 What the hell? 117 00:05:46,171 --> 00:05:48,348 And, "Say hello to Saturn for me." 118 00:05:48,391 --> 00:05:50,959 Not just the shows, movies too. 119 00:05:51,002 --> 00:05:53,788 Star Trek wasmy first job as an actor. 120 00:05:53,831 --> 00:05:56,965 - What? - It was the most integral part of my career because it 121 00:05:57,008 --> 00:06:00,490 not only put my foot in the door, it shoved me through the door. 122 00:06:00,534 --> 00:06:03,058 - Thank you, sir. -It wasStar Trek. 123 00:06:03,101 --> 00:06:05,843 Once you get in, you never get out. 124 00:06:05,887 --> 00:06:07,454 I was so happy to have a job. 125 00:06:07,497 --> 00:06:09,586 It's a very unstable industry, and when you get on a show, 126 00:06:09,630 --> 00:06:11,371 you never know if it's going to go. 127 00:06:11,414 --> 00:06:15,113 Star Trek is a very unique animal 128 00:06:15,157 --> 00:06:16,724 in that way, because this is, like, 129 00:06:16,767 --> 00:06:18,900 the one rare occurrence where you know 130 00:06:18,943 --> 00:06:21,598 that if you're signing a seven-year contract, you're probably going seven years. 131 00:06:21,642 --> 00:06:24,427 Holy cow. I don't know if I'm gonna be alive in seven years. 132 00:06:24,471 --> 00:06:26,603 It's a nice little income coming in for seven years, 133 00:06:26,647 --> 00:06:29,432 and that's precisely what I wanted to do at that time in my career. 134 00:06:29,476 --> 00:06:31,478 And suddenly, I'm looking at these houses 135 00:06:31,521 --> 00:06:33,871 that I've passed every day for years, and years, and years, 136 00:06:33,915 --> 00:06:36,700 and going, "Might get one of those." - Always the optimist. 137 00:06:38,310 --> 00:06:41,444 Mercedes came down the road, "Might drive one of those." 138 00:06:41,488 --> 00:06:44,316 But before you can live long in a prosperous fashion, 139 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,014 you need to get cast. 140 00:06:46,057 --> 00:06:48,843 And the gatekeeper in theStar Trek universe, 141 00:06:48,886 --> 00:06:52,237 well, no, it wasn't Gene Roddenberry, it's this guy. 142 00:06:52,281 --> 00:06:56,024 I was casting director on Star Trekfor 15 years, 143 00:06:56,067 --> 00:07:00,463 throughout most of the four different TV series and three movies. 144 00:07:00,507 --> 00:07:05,076 The Next Generation, Deep Space Nine, Voyager, Enterprise, Generations, 145 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,209 First Contact and Insurrection. 146 00:07:07,252 --> 00:07:11,431 My job was to cast every speaking role in each episode, 147 00:07:11,474 --> 00:07:17,001 and every year, there were 4-500 actors cast on the shows. 148 00:07:17,045 --> 00:07:20,831 But before you try to calculate just how many faces 149 00:07:20,875 --> 00:07:24,922 Ron Surma must have seen over those years, he did cheat a little. 150 00:07:24,966 --> 00:07:26,924 Once you kind of get in the door, 151 00:07:26,968 --> 00:07:28,839 you're in that world, you're on their radar. 152 00:07:28,883 --> 00:07:33,104 I've done more different characters in the Star Trekfranchise 153 00:07:33,148 --> 00:07:35,803 than any other actor. In fact, somebody told me 154 00:07:35,846 --> 00:07:39,676 it was in any episodic franchise in television. 155 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:44,725 So, he may have been Ron's favorite, but he wasn't exactly his number one. 156 00:07:44,768 --> 00:07:46,248 Make it so, Number One. 157 00:07:46,291 --> 00:07:49,077 The first thing I auditioned for was Riker in that show, 158 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:53,516 and they had me in maybe three times to read for him. 159 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,171 - Didn't get him. -Nope. This guy did. 160 00:07:56,214 --> 00:07:58,042 I'm here. 161 00:07:58,086 --> 00:08:00,784 Jonathan Frakes' portrayal of Riker, 162 00:08:00,828 --> 00:08:03,178 though some said a little stiff in the beginning... 163 00:08:03,221 --> 00:08:05,659 And I'm trying not to smile at him. 164 00:08:05,702 --> 00:08:10,315 ...soon became a relaxed and beloved member of theNext Generation crew. 165 00:08:10,359 --> 00:08:12,404 Our lives were changed. 166 00:08:12,448 --> 00:08:15,320 So, it's no wonder that getting an audition forStar Trek 167 00:08:15,364 --> 00:08:18,149 could be the biggest moment of some actors' careers. 168 00:08:18,193 --> 00:08:19,716 No pressure. 169 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,762 Walk in the door, and there are five or six other guys 170 00:08:21,805 --> 00:08:24,329 that kind of look just like you. 171 00:08:24,373 --> 00:08:27,507 And he's more famous and a bit better looking. 172 00:08:27,550 --> 00:08:32,337 As I waited outside, this minivan pulled up and the doors slid open, 173 00:08:33,034 --> 00:08:36,341 and out came this leg, 174 00:08:36,385 --> 00:08:41,129 and in full Seven of Nine regalia, it was Jeri Ryan. 175 00:08:41,172 --> 00:08:45,350 And I thought in that moment, "This is what they want." 176 00:08:45,394 --> 00:08:49,050 I mean, who am I kidding? I'm not gonna get this part. 177 00:08:49,093 --> 00:08:52,183 You would know in the first minute, 178 00:08:52,227 --> 00:08:54,621 if they had a chance of getting the part or not. 179 00:08:54,664 --> 00:08:56,318 With not long to impress, 180 00:08:56,361 --> 00:08:59,060 some actors bend over backwards for the job. 181 00:08:59,103 --> 00:09:01,366 At the very last minute, I decided, 182 00:09:01,410 --> 00:09:05,370 there was a chair there, so I got in the chair, I turned around upside down, 183 00:09:05,414 --> 00:09:09,418 I threw my legs over and I did the audition upside down. 184 00:09:09,461 --> 00:09:12,726 So, I went in and I'm doing the audition like this, you know, 185 00:09:12,769 --> 00:09:15,642 but with a bit of an English, you know, accent, you know, 186 00:09:15,685 --> 00:09:17,905 like, uh, kind of Cockney-ish. 187 00:09:17,948 --> 00:09:21,909 One of the producers comes over to me and says to me with a very stern face, 188 00:09:21,952 --> 00:09:26,566 he goes, there are no accents in Star Trek. 189 00:09:26,609 --> 00:09:28,698 You're not from this province, are you? 190 00:09:28,742 --> 00:09:30,744 And neither are you. 191 00:09:30,787 --> 00:09:33,573 And I cranked it up as far as I could because I thought there's... 192 00:09:33,616 --> 00:09:36,663 I'm not leaving anything on the table 193 00:09:36,706 --> 00:09:39,013 when I walk out of here because I really wanted it. 194 00:09:39,056 --> 00:09:41,624 - I really wanted to get it. -Don't worry. He did. 195 00:09:41,668 --> 00:09:44,540 - Yes, sir. -Sometimes, it's a grind. 196 00:09:44,584 --> 00:09:46,194 So, I had a couple of auditions, 197 00:09:46,237 --> 00:09:48,326 ...which I think I came in four times. 198 00:09:48,370 --> 00:09:50,981 It was another audition among many. 199 00:09:51,025 --> 00:09:53,636 You're brought in for, like, six auditions. 200 00:09:53,680 --> 00:09:59,381 I auditioned, uh, seven times over six weeks. 201 00:09:59,424 --> 00:10:00,774 And now, you want to try it again? 202 00:10:00,817 --> 00:10:03,385 You have to make an immediate impact in the room. 203 00:10:03,428 --> 00:10:05,953 And sometimes, you need a little luck. 204 00:10:05,996 --> 00:10:07,084 I guess so. 205 00:10:07,128 --> 00:10:10,000 I went in there, Avery says, 206 00:10:10,044 --> 00:10:13,134 "You were the only person that gave me a hug in the audition." 207 00:10:14,875 --> 00:10:17,399 You know, "You said, 'Dad,' and you gave me a hug." 208 00:10:19,227 --> 00:10:22,491 And that was a smart move as the young Cirroc. 209 00:10:22,534 --> 00:10:25,625 And then, sometimes, you just have to wing it. 210 00:10:25,668 --> 00:10:27,670 I had never seen the series. 211 00:10:27,714 --> 00:10:30,891 So, I went, "Hi. I'm Gates," you know. 212 00:10:30,934 --> 00:10:34,416 "Is there a part you want me to, um, audition for?" 213 00:10:34,459 --> 00:10:36,418 And they said, "Well, there's three women's parts. 214 00:10:36,461 --> 00:10:38,289 "Just pick whichever one you want to do." 215 00:10:38,333 --> 00:10:42,554 And I picked the one that I thought was the funniest, 216 00:10:42,598 --> 00:10:46,341 and it was about the last funny scene I ever saw for the character. 217 00:10:46,384 --> 00:10:49,257 These aren't the remains of the ambassador. 218 00:10:49,300 --> 00:10:51,868 But it's not just the main characters. 219 00:10:51,912 --> 00:10:54,871 A big part ofStar Trek is the supporting cast. 220 00:10:54,915 --> 00:10:57,004 All that water. 221 00:10:57,047 --> 00:10:59,528 When I went in to read, the producers would say, "No, we want him to be meaner." 222 00:11:00,964 --> 00:11:03,401 I kept telling them I don't agree. 223 00:11:03,445 --> 00:11:04,751 It's a shame. 224 00:11:04,794 --> 00:11:07,667 Uh, I remember thinking in my mind, "Oh, man, 225 00:11:07,710 --> 00:11:10,365 "I'm either going to get this job or I'm never going 226 00:11:10,408 --> 00:11:11,671 "to work in this town again." 227 00:11:14,108 --> 00:11:17,981 Some of the best auditions you'll get, you'll ever do 228 00:11:18,025 --> 00:11:20,767 don't go anywhere, and some of the ones you don't think twice about, 229 00:11:20,810 --> 00:11:22,246 suddenly, the next thing you know... 230 00:11:26,773 --> 00:11:32,082 John Billingsley, who played Dr. Phlox on the series, Enterprise, 231 00:11:32,126 --> 00:11:35,651 made an interesting actor's choice for his audition. 232 00:11:35,695 --> 00:11:39,220 I punctuated the scenes with occasional squawks. 233 00:11:39,263 --> 00:11:41,918 I thought, perhaps, in moments of rapture, joyous transport, 234 00:11:41,962 --> 00:11:45,487 he would... and I auditioned, and they seemed to like it, 235 00:11:45,530 --> 00:11:46,967 and they brought me back and I squawked, 236 00:11:47,010 --> 00:11:48,708 and they brought me back again, and I squawked, 237 00:11:48,751 --> 00:11:50,535 and we had the first table read, and I squawked. 238 00:11:50,579 --> 00:11:52,276 And all the time, I'm thinking, "Am I a bird?" 239 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,975 "I don't know. They're not making me look like a bird." 240 00:11:55,018 --> 00:11:56,716 I happened to be there when he was going to shoot 241 00:11:56,759 --> 00:11:59,588 his first scene, which was the scene he'd auditioned with. 242 00:11:59,631 --> 00:12:02,417 I think he went with... 243 00:12:02,460 --> 00:12:04,375 And you just heard this, and bear in mind, 244 00:12:04,419 --> 00:12:06,900 he's done this through all the auditions that he's had. 245 00:12:06,943 --> 00:12:10,730 And you just heard this, "Cut! Cut!" 246 00:12:11,513 --> 00:12:12,514 "God." 247 00:12:13,558 --> 00:12:15,038 "Are you me?" 248 00:12:16,866 --> 00:12:18,781 Or as John himself remembers it... 249 00:12:18,825 --> 00:12:20,957 "John, quit around" 250 00:12:21,001 --> 00:12:22,785 Just so I knew I wasn't a bird. 251 00:12:22,829 --> 00:12:26,571 Of course, some characters have been more successful 252 00:12:26,615 --> 00:12:28,835 in developing a trademark sound. 253 00:12:34,101 --> 00:12:36,320 That is how the Klingon lures a mate. 254 00:12:36,364 --> 00:12:38,975 When I call my agent and the producer was saying, 255 00:12:39,019 --> 00:12:43,327 "Look, you know, we want to see him for the part of a Klingon." 256 00:12:43,371 --> 00:12:45,199 because they were going to put a Klingon on the bridge. 257 00:12:45,242 --> 00:12:46,853 And I went, "Wow, what a great idea." 258 00:12:46,896 --> 00:12:49,290 Do not approach me unannounced, especially when I'm eating. 259 00:12:49,333 --> 00:12:51,422 Worf became a series regular... - 260 00:12:51,466 --> 00:12:54,208 ...and an integral part of the Next Generation crew... 261 00:12:54,251 --> 00:12:56,906 - I am a Klingon. - ...and it worked out so well 262 00:12:56,950 --> 00:13:01,171 that he later became a series regular on Deep Space Nine as well. 263 00:13:01,215 --> 00:13:03,521 Because when they call you... 264 00:13:03,565 --> 00:13:07,917 ...they want you and it gives you a position of power 265 00:13:07,961 --> 00:13:11,703 that we don't have as actors 99% of the time, 266 00:13:11,747 --> 00:13:13,227 He's not wrong. 267 00:13:13,270 --> 00:13:15,882 Most of us are lucky if we just get one big break. 268 00:13:19,233 --> 00:13:22,018 EveryStar Trek actor has their story... 269 00:13:22,062 --> 00:13:25,195 I have been a Star Trekfan as long as I can remember. 270 00:13:25,239 --> 00:13:27,807 ...and often with a personal connection to the show. 271 00:13:27,850 --> 00:13:32,507 When I was growing up, and my brother and I watched the original, 272 00:13:32,550 --> 00:13:36,119 and it really did speak to us 273 00:13:36,163 --> 00:13:38,687 because it was dealing with a lot of great stuff, 274 00:13:38,730 --> 00:13:41,690 and a lot of wonderful actors, and they took chances. 275 00:13:41,733 --> 00:13:44,040 One of the main reasons I loved it is because 276 00:13:44,084 --> 00:13:46,347 I was in love with this guy named Bob. 277 00:13:46,390 --> 00:13:49,480 And every week when the TV show was on, I got to go to Bob's house 278 00:13:49,524 --> 00:13:53,920 and make out with him on the sofa without his mother objecting 279 00:13:53,963 --> 00:13:56,052 while we were watching Star Trek. 280 00:13:56,096 --> 00:13:57,706 I had a history withStar Trek, 281 00:13:57,749 --> 00:13:59,186 as so many of us did from television. 282 00:13:59,229 --> 00:14:01,101 I mean, it was a part of my life. 283 00:14:01,144 --> 00:14:04,539 And I looked at it, it sounded like fun. It sounds like a good idea, 284 00:14:04,582 --> 00:14:06,584 and my kids said, "You better do it." 285 00:14:06,628 --> 00:14:08,412 So, that was that. 286 00:14:08,456 --> 00:14:11,285 Movie star, Whoopi Goldberg had her reasons, too. 287 00:14:11,328 --> 00:14:12,852 Before Nichelle Nichols, 288 00:14:12,895 --> 00:14:16,507 we didn't exist anywhere in science fiction. 289 00:14:17,726 --> 00:14:21,208 So, I want to carry that female woman... 290 00:14:21,251 --> 00:14:23,732 Of course, a female woman, that's crazy. 291 00:14:23,775 --> 00:14:26,256 ...uh, carry that woman thing forward 292 00:14:26,300 --> 00:14:28,955 so some little girl looks up and sees me 293 00:14:28,998 --> 00:14:32,480 and says, "Oh." 294 00:14:32,523 --> 00:14:33,568 We're on there! 295 00:14:33,611 --> 00:14:36,397 A few molecules off, and poof, 296 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,616 it's all gone. All of it. 297 00:14:38,660 --> 00:14:42,055 Well, as a matter of fact, in 1977, in high school, 298 00:14:42,098 --> 00:14:46,581 my friends and I did a reel-to-real video ofStar Trek. 299 00:14:46,624 --> 00:14:51,586 When the other kids wanted to play Star Wars, or A-Team, or Knight Rider, 300 00:14:51,629 --> 00:14:54,241 - I was like, "Can we play - Star Trek? - I want to be Mr. Spock." 301 00:14:54,284 --> 00:14:56,896 Who doesn't? 302 00:14:56,939 --> 00:15:00,856 But there are a lot more aliens than just Vulcans in theStar Trek universe. 303 00:15:00,900 --> 00:15:03,859 When I got the phone call, they're like, "Yeah, so they want you to play a Ferengi." 304 00:15:03,903 --> 00:15:05,556 I'm like, "What's a Ferengi?" 305 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,081 Ferengi, as a species, 306 00:15:08,124 --> 00:15:10,953 was started in Next Generation, and I was fortunate enough to be 307 00:15:10,997 --> 00:15:14,087 one of the four actors who played that original, 308 00:15:14,130 --> 00:15:16,045 those original four Ferengi. 309 00:15:16,089 --> 00:15:21,094 We will accuse the humans of preparing to ambush us. - 310 00:15:21,137 --> 00:15:22,878 Ah! 311 00:15:22,922 --> 00:15:24,924 And I had no idea what a Cardassian was. 312 00:15:24,967 --> 00:15:27,491 I couldn't, you know... If you told me it was a form of pastrami sandwich, 313 00:15:27,535 --> 00:15:31,365 I, you know, I would have said, "Oh, okay, I'm playing pastrami sandwich." 314 00:15:31,408 --> 00:15:34,455 So, how do you play an alien? 315 00:15:34,498 --> 00:15:37,023 I'm still asking myself to this day, 316 00:15:37,066 --> 00:15:38,850 how do you play a Vulcan? 317 00:15:38,894 --> 00:15:41,766 This... Is it Burlesque? Do you go over the top? 318 00:15:41,810 --> 00:15:43,943 I mean, really weird, you know. 319 00:15:43,986 --> 00:15:46,728 Do you do a voice? Can you be funny? 320 00:15:46,771 --> 00:15:49,600 All they really had to do was look in a mirror... 321 00:15:49,644 --> 00:15:52,995 I don't have to play alien. I am an alien. 322 00:15:53,039 --> 00:15:56,825 ...because no amount of acting talent can turn this face 323 00:15:56,868 --> 00:15:58,609 into this one. 324 00:15:58,653 --> 00:16:01,221 Such is the power of makeup. - Makeup? 325 00:16:01,264 --> 00:16:03,353 -That's right. - Special effects makeup. 326 00:16:03,397 --> 00:16:07,053 I looked in the mirror, and I thought, "Oh, my God, this is extraordinary." 327 00:16:07,096 --> 00:16:10,404 And I immediately got the character and what to do with him. 328 00:16:10,447 --> 00:16:14,669 You know, you're a work of art. You're made into something. 329 00:16:14,712 --> 00:16:17,846 You don't have to practically do anything. It's all done. 330 00:16:17,889 --> 00:16:20,718 It kind of makes the character. 331 00:16:20,762 --> 00:16:25,158 You know, you look the way you imagine yourself to be. It works. 332 00:16:25,201 --> 00:16:28,204 And the man who made it work is Michael Westmore. 333 00:16:28,248 --> 00:16:32,861 I was the makeup supervisor and designer on Star Trek, 334 00:16:32,904 --> 00:16:35,777 Next Generation, Deep space Nine, 335 00:16:35,820 --> 00:16:38,823 Voyager, Enterprise, for the movies. 336 00:16:38,867 --> 00:16:42,784 Anything that Star Trektouched over the 18 years, I was there. 337 00:16:42,827 --> 00:16:46,483 He was easily a huge part of the success of our show. 338 00:16:46,527 --> 00:16:49,225 Every week, he had to come up with something, 339 00:16:49,269 --> 00:16:52,881 some alien race that nobody had ever seen before, 340 00:16:52,924 --> 00:16:55,971 and create magic, and that's what he did. 341 00:16:56,015 --> 00:16:59,105 But the real magic happens when there's a collaboration 342 00:16:59,148 --> 00:17:01,498 between the makeup artists and the actor. 343 00:17:01,542 --> 00:17:03,935 So I get this lovely role of Qatai. 344 00:17:03,979 --> 00:17:08,331 Go down to the Westmore habitat on Paramount, 345 00:17:08,375 --> 00:17:13,728 and on the makeup shelf were a series of masks, faces and heads. 346 00:17:13,771 --> 00:17:16,818 I look up and I see, dun, dun, dun, 347 00:17:16,861 --> 00:17:20,909 the lion's face, slightly damaged. 348 00:17:20,952 --> 00:17:24,608 I went, "I love that." and he went, "Okay, let's try it." 349 00:17:24,652 --> 00:17:29,309 Tried it and looked in the mirror, and I began immediately 350 00:17:29,352 --> 00:17:31,615 to resonate with the mask. 351 00:17:31,659 --> 00:17:35,402 I understood the value of the makeup 352 00:17:35,445 --> 00:17:37,491 through that four-and-a-half-hour process 353 00:17:37,534 --> 00:17:40,102 because, after we had finished with it, 354 00:17:40,146 --> 00:17:42,235 I was in that character. 355 00:17:42,278 --> 00:17:45,325 While they're putting it on. I'd be sitting there looking in the mirror, going, 356 00:17:45,368 --> 00:17:49,633 "Well, why did this character evolve this way?" 357 00:17:49,677 --> 00:17:51,853 The Cardassians have this big neck thing, 358 00:17:51,896 --> 00:17:57,293 and I'd look at that and think, "Man, these guys must have been really uptight 359 00:17:57,337 --> 00:18:00,905 "for some millennia, and they're finally getting these things in their necks 360 00:18:00,949 --> 00:18:04,996 "just from straining from how much they hate everybody, you know, for so long." 361 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,565 But this wasn't a shortcut to finding your inner alien. 362 00:18:08,609 --> 00:18:11,046 Uh, it was horrifying. 363 00:18:11,090 --> 00:18:15,137 So horrifying, in fact, that many actors said... 364 00:18:15,181 --> 00:18:17,008 - No. - I will not do it. 365 00:18:17,052 --> 00:18:21,143 There were oftentimes where I would get an appointment for a client 366 00:18:21,187 --> 00:18:25,321 and they would refuse to go in because they knew that it did involve makeup. 367 00:18:25,365 --> 00:18:26,931 It's a lot to get used to. 368 00:18:26,975 --> 00:18:32,676 My call time in the makeup trailer, was 1:00 a.m., 369 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:38,465 and we all assembled on the set at 7:00 a.m. to begin work. 370 00:18:38,508 --> 00:18:42,469 And if that isn't tiring enough, there are other problems, too. 371 00:18:42,512 --> 00:18:44,819 So, we had to make molds of my ears, 372 00:18:45,907 --> 00:18:48,039 and I'm a little bit claustrophobic. 373 00:18:48,083 --> 00:18:51,739 I just... There's something about it. I'm very claustrophobic. 374 00:18:51,782 --> 00:18:53,480 If you have claustrophobia problems, 375 00:18:54,872 --> 00:18:57,092 think twice before taking a job on Star Trek. 376 00:18:57,136 --> 00:18:59,834 I think I had three calls 377 00:18:59,877 --> 00:19:02,967 prior to shooting, with prosthetics and with makeup, 378 00:19:03,011 --> 00:19:05,492 and by this time, I was starting to get a little... 379 00:19:05,535 --> 00:19:07,842 I was starting to get a little nervous about what I was in for. 380 00:19:07,885 --> 00:19:09,844 Well, perhaps, with good reason. 381 00:19:09,887 --> 00:19:12,586 The initial, um, mold, 382 00:19:12,629 --> 00:19:15,545 you're completely isolated. 383 00:19:15,589 --> 00:19:17,547 And the only way you can breathe, the onlyway you can breathe 384 00:19:17,591 --> 00:19:21,160 is through two tiny straws that are stuck up in your nostrils, 385 00:19:21,203 --> 00:19:23,814 which stick out of the plaster of Paris. 386 00:19:23,858 --> 00:19:28,123 As it settles, you can feel it... 387 00:19:28,167 --> 00:19:32,040 constricting your face, and you can feel that you're 388 00:19:32,083 --> 00:19:34,085 becoming dependent on these two straws. 389 00:19:34,129 --> 00:19:38,438 And I was like, and they're putting this stuff on, 390 00:19:38,481 --> 00:19:39,961 and I'm like, 391 00:19:40,004 --> 00:19:42,268 I'm just, like, going crazy, 392 00:19:42,311 --> 00:19:44,531 and one guy is standing next to me, 393 00:19:44,574 --> 00:19:47,273 holding me, you know, saying, "It's okay, it's okay." 394 00:19:47,316 --> 00:19:52,669 I still find gold in my, you know, various pores. 395 00:19:52,713 --> 00:19:56,456 Even the great Vulcan himself raised an eyebrow 396 00:19:56,499 --> 00:19:57,979 when it came to make up. 397 00:19:58,022 --> 00:20:00,416 The process, the makeup process did not get easier. 398 00:20:00,460 --> 00:20:02,853 It became more difficult, actually. 399 00:20:02,897 --> 00:20:06,161 Not only the ears, the eyebrows were very complicated, too, 400 00:20:06,205 --> 00:20:09,120 because I shaved the outer half of my own eyebrows, 401 00:20:09,164 --> 00:20:12,428 and Freddie put on hair by hair everyday. 402 00:20:12,472 --> 00:20:15,388 You know, 2:00 in the morning, I'm tearing my nose off. 403 00:20:15,431 --> 00:20:19,566 But I've got... I've got marks 404 00:20:19,609 --> 00:20:23,396 from that first year or so, when I didn't want 405 00:20:23,439 --> 00:20:26,790 to take the 20 minutes. So, I learned very quickly 406 00:20:26,834 --> 00:20:32,579 to not to, not quickly enough, to avoid damage to my nose. 407 00:20:32,622 --> 00:20:35,146 And if that wasn't enough skin off your nose, 408 00:20:35,190 --> 00:20:37,236 there are even worse things to face. 409 00:20:37,279 --> 00:20:41,718 People who didn't drink water would seize up, 410 00:20:41,762 --> 00:20:46,157 in the sense that it would get harder and harder to keep lines in your head 411 00:20:46,201 --> 00:20:48,029 because you were dehydrated. 412 00:20:48,072 --> 00:20:50,771 I remember we filmed a scene and they said "Okay, that's perfect. 413 00:20:50,814 --> 00:20:53,513 "We're just going to bump in a little bit closer and we're going to do it again." 414 00:20:53,556 --> 00:20:56,472 And I said, "What are we doing? 415 00:20:56,516 --> 00:20:58,387 "This is the exact same scene you've got." 416 00:20:58,431 --> 00:21:00,302 And I said, "Oh, you're gonna have to give me the script." 417 00:21:00,346 --> 00:21:03,479 I had no idea where we were, what we were doing, 418 00:21:03,523 --> 00:21:05,699 and one of the associate producers, 419 00:21:05,742 --> 00:21:08,092 I think it was David Livingston, stepped in and said, 420 00:21:08,136 --> 00:21:10,312 "We've got to get him out of that suit. We've got to get him out of here. He's unraveling." 421 00:21:10,356 --> 00:21:14,316 So, you're locked into this rubber mask. 422 00:21:14,360 --> 00:21:17,624 At one point, they say, "What's going on there? There's something," 423 00:21:17,667 --> 00:21:21,628 and I have had a collection of sweat 424 00:21:21,671 --> 00:21:24,935 so bad it's pooled and pushed the latex out back here. 425 00:21:24,979 --> 00:21:26,850 So, they lance it, 426 00:21:28,548 --> 00:21:33,030 and this just wash of warm water goes down my back, 427 00:21:33,074 --> 00:21:36,643 and it's just one of the joys of show business. 428 00:21:36,686 --> 00:21:38,471 These dedicated actors are either 429 00:21:38,514 --> 00:21:42,126 suffering for their art or talking out of their... - Butt. 430 00:21:42,170 --> 00:21:44,303 But in Matt Malloy's case, both are true. 431 00:21:44,346 --> 00:21:48,611 They show me the thing, this foam thing that they mount on your head. 432 00:21:48,655 --> 00:21:50,961 I said it looks like a baby's ass 433 00:21:51,005 --> 00:21:56,184 and they said the original had been a dip of a baby's ass. 434 00:22:03,147 --> 00:22:06,237 I mean, it really did look like a butt, you know? 435 00:22:06,281 --> 00:22:08,196 I mean a talking butt, 436 00:22:08,239 --> 00:22:12,374 and doing scenes, I'm thinking, how can I take this seriously? 437 00:22:12,418 --> 00:22:15,421 But, yet, it was absolutely compelling. 438 00:22:15,464 --> 00:22:17,118 They were very careful about that 439 00:22:17,161 --> 00:22:19,599 to let me know what it was going to look like. Looked good. 440 00:22:19,642 --> 00:22:23,385 By the way, they showed me the derivation of it. 441 00:22:23,429 --> 00:22:26,954 It came from insects and creatures, 442 00:22:26,997 --> 00:22:29,957 live creatures that they borrowed things from. 443 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,133 I thought that was really smart. 444 00:22:32,176 --> 00:22:38,400 The characters who were alien, really look like they could have occurred in nature. 445 00:22:38,444 --> 00:22:43,231 But if actors had a call of nature while in costume, good luck. 446 00:22:43,274 --> 00:22:45,364 Going to the bathroom... 447 00:22:46,234 --> 00:22:48,192 was an issue. 448 00:22:48,236 --> 00:22:52,240 Bathroom breaks didn't happen unless we got almost completely undressed. 449 00:22:52,283 --> 00:22:54,721 That was the only way that occurred. 450 00:22:54,764 --> 00:22:58,986 And there were enough of us that slowed things down. Every once in a while, 451 00:22:59,029 --> 00:23:02,903 we had to kind of take a good 15, 20 minutes so everybody could get undone, 452 00:23:02,946 --> 00:23:06,297 they could head out, head back in, get hooked back up again, 453 00:23:06,341 --> 00:23:09,170 and go back to work. 454 00:23:09,213 --> 00:23:11,085 Well, I had a bathroom buddy. 455 00:23:11,128 --> 00:23:14,131 Bathroom buddy, Bathroom buddy. 456 00:23:14,175 --> 00:23:16,438 Please meet Tosk in the men's room. 457 00:23:16,482 --> 00:23:20,703 And he would be on his knees in front of me, in front of my crotch, 458 00:23:20,747 --> 00:23:24,577 unhooking my suit with me in this lizard mask. 459 00:23:24,620 --> 00:23:28,537 For some, all this was, understandably, 460 00:23:28,581 --> 00:23:30,844 - just too much... - Wash. 461 00:23:30,887 --> 00:23:32,628 ...as was the case for one actor. 462 00:23:32,672 --> 00:23:35,762 At one point, while he was about to shoot, 463 00:23:35,805 --> 00:23:39,766 and he stood up, he took his wig off, 464 00:23:39,809 --> 00:23:43,073 he walked out to the front gate of Paramount, 465 00:23:43,117 --> 00:23:45,467 threw the wig in the garbage can. 466 00:23:45,511 --> 00:23:50,864 He just left. They found one of the ears in a trash bin outside the stage. 467 00:23:50,907 --> 00:23:56,130 But, with acting, you can't walk the walk until you've talked the talk. 468 00:24:00,482 --> 00:24:04,660 Getting into character on Star Trek isn't always easy. 469 00:24:04,704 --> 00:24:06,488 And if the horrors of the makeup chair 470 00:24:06,532 --> 00:24:09,317 or the ill-fitting costumes aren't enough, 471 00:24:09,360 --> 00:24:12,233 wait until you actually have to speak. 472 00:24:12,276 --> 00:24:14,496 I'm at home just running it, running it, running it, 473 00:24:14,540 --> 00:24:16,367 just saying it out loud over, and over, and over again, 474 00:24:16,411 --> 00:24:18,805 while washing dishes, cooking, doing something like that 475 00:24:18,848 --> 00:24:21,242 just so that, when we finally get there to shoot it, 476 00:24:21,285 --> 00:24:24,375 that it, as Shakespeare would say, runs trippingly off the tongue. 477 00:24:24,419 --> 00:24:27,335 It's tough, and you only have a couple of shots at it, 478 00:24:27,378 --> 00:24:29,468 and you've got long speeches and what have you. 479 00:24:29,511 --> 00:24:32,253 You have to give the impression that you're having a good time. 480 00:24:32,296 --> 00:24:34,211 We would receive the episode that we're... 481 00:24:34,255 --> 00:24:36,997 the new episode the night before. 482 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:42,045 So, if you had a 6 o'clock call, that means you were studying your scenes, 483 00:24:42,089 --> 00:24:44,004 maybe into 2, 3 o'clock in the morning. 484 00:24:44,047 --> 00:24:46,267 Well, we all had different techniques. 485 00:24:46,310 --> 00:24:49,139 My words, my words, my words... my lines. 486 00:24:49,183 --> 00:24:51,490 I didn't really need to read the whole script, 487 00:24:51,533 --> 00:24:56,059 and I knew exactly what Reed was doing in his said scenes. 488 00:24:56,103 --> 00:24:59,541 - I didn't read 'em. - No, I didn't. I read them. I actually did read them. 489 00:24:59,585 --> 00:25:02,196 And then, sometimes, you'd show up, and the scene that you were working on 490 00:25:02,239 --> 00:25:04,981 that same night had been rewritten. 491 00:25:05,025 --> 00:25:09,029 And we're not talking your average run-of-the-mill dialogue rewrites. 492 00:25:09,072 --> 00:25:12,554 Not everyone is fluent in the language ofStar Trek. 493 00:25:12,598 --> 00:25:15,949 Star Trekseemed to have consistently called for theater actors, 494 00:25:15,992 --> 00:25:17,733 Shakespearean actors in particular 495 00:25:17,777 --> 00:25:21,302 because the language is not comfortable 496 00:25:21,345 --> 00:25:23,347 and had to be kind of highfalutin 497 00:25:23,391 --> 00:25:26,394 and stand a little straighter and all that sort of stuff in order to do it, 498 00:25:26,437 --> 00:25:28,744 and they had to do with having a theater background. 499 00:25:28,788 --> 00:25:33,793 You have some really good actors who were doing things like Star Trek. 500 00:25:33,836 --> 00:25:35,882 if there are any like Star Trek. 501 00:25:35,925 --> 00:25:37,492 Yeah, because we're used to language. 502 00:25:37,536 --> 00:25:41,017 However, unlike the Bard's rich prose, 503 00:25:41,061 --> 00:25:45,239 the words ofTrek are sometimes a little less meaningful. 504 00:25:45,282 --> 00:25:47,633 They were just gobbledygook to me. 505 00:25:47,676 --> 00:25:51,201 I want you to install a bypass between the main phaser array and the secondary generators. 506 00:25:51,245 --> 00:25:54,857 I also want to run the main deflector pathway through the warp power grid, 507 00:25:54,901 --> 00:25:57,381 and the auxiliary conduits through the lateral relays. 508 00:25:57,425 --> 00:26:00,733 In some ways, it's almost like verse in that there is 509 00:26:00,776 --> 00:26:05,389 a lot of, yes, technical, what, uh... 510 00:26:05,433 --> 00:26:07,174 Technobabble. 511 00:26:07,217 --> 00:26:10,656 Vent a couple of LN2 exhaust conduits along the dorsal emitters. 512 00:26:10,699 --> 00:26:12,048 I could not get it on the day. 513 00:26:12,092 --> 00:26:13,833 Make it look like we're in serious trouble. 514 00:26:13,876 --> 00:26:15,791 It's the only line that I remember. 515 00:26:15,835 --> 00:26:18,881 Vent a couple of LN2 exhaust conduits along the dorsal emitters. 516 00:26:18,925 --> 00:26:20,143 Understood. 517 00:26:20,187 --> 00:26:21,754 And I've got to say something about the... 518 00:26:21,797 --> 00:26:26,062 I don't know, the... cumulus 519 00:26:26,106 --> 00:26:29,152 - or the... whatever the hell. - It's all that static discharge and gas. 520 00:26:29,196 --> 00:26:31,111 I kept screwing up my lines. 521 00:26:31,154 --> 00:26:34,114 - May I speak, sir? - I was doing this elevator scene. 522 00:26:34,157 --> 00:26:36,986 I remember I had an opportunity where I could look different. 523 00:26:37,030 --> 00:26:39,119 Well, not that different. 524 00:26:39,162 --> 00:26:41,643 I don't think it was a robe. I think it was a top... 525 00:26:41,687 --> 00:26:45,429 -Of course. - ...and I was on my way somewhere as a civilian. 526 00:26:45,473 --> 00:26:48,694 And I had some idea in my mind, which I have with every script. 527 00:26:48,737 --> 00:26:50,304 I don't know why I've always done this, 528 00:26:50,347 --> 00:26:52,785 like, "I'm probably gonna need to flirt with Shatner," 529 00:26:52,828 --> 00:26:54,961 You know, with Kirk, a little. 530 00:26:55,004 --> 00:26:59,182 I wanted to wear my hair down because I was waiting for my moment 531 00:26:59,226 --> 00:27:04,318 to be glamorous. But every time I'd walk out of the elevator, 532 00:27:04,361 --> 00:27:08,583 right before it would open, Bill would go like, "Line, line, line, line, line." 533 00:27:08,627 --> 00:27:13,370 Now, I'm going to go... I'm like deer in headlights. 534 00:27:13,414 --> 00:27:15,982 - You're bothered. - And I was ready to cry. 535 00:27:16,025 --> 00:27:18,027 And I kept coming out, and I kept blowing the line. 536 00:27:18,071 --> 00:27:20,769 And then he'd go. "You... All right, now, this time, you're gonna do it. 537 00:27:20,813 --> 00:27:22,205 "Line, line, line, line." 538 00:27:22,249 --> 00:27:23,729 Oh, I wanted to kill him. 539 00:27:23,772 --> 00:27:25,513 It's a test of character. 540 00:27:25,556 --> 00:27:27,210 And then Nick took me aside, and he goes, "If you get it, good. 541 00:27:27,254 --> 00:27:29,560 "If you don't, you don't." Of course, I got it. 542 00:27:29,604 --> 00:27:31,127 Who's been holding up the damn elevator? 543 00:27:31,171 --> 00:27:33,216 I think it was Garrett Wang that told me, 544 00:27:33,260 --> 00:27:34,914 He said, "Oh, just be glad your character's not in engineering 545 00:27:34,957 --> 00:27:36,567 "'cause they get hammered with the technobabble." 546 00:27:36,611 --> 00:27:37,917 Can I help you? 547 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,441 Uh, unless you can reroute the plasma regulator 548 00:27:40,484 --> 00:27:44,271 to silo off the relay junction, then, uh, no. 549 00:27:44,314 --> 00:27:46,099 And then, the very next script that came out, 550 00:27:46,142 --> 00:27:48,754 I'm asking Chakotay for an assignment in engineering. 551 00:27:48,797 --> 00:27:51,017 I was like, "Oh, God! Here we go." 552 00:27:51,060 --> 00:27:52,758 It was one of the banes of my existence, 553 00:27:52,801 --> 00:27:55,761 was writing some of the technology and the tech talk of the show. 554 00:27:55,804 --> 00:27:57,763 "A tetryon beam is approaching, Captain. 555 00:27:57,806 --> 00:28:01,810 "We'll have to infuse it with a class 4," uh, whatever, you know. 556 00:28:01,854 --> 00:28:04,204 There were just too many arguments in the writer's room, 557 00:28:04,247 --> 00:28:07,381 yelling at each other about what warp drive could and could not do. 558 00:28:07,424 --> 00:28:11,037 -But if you thought... - It's based on an FTL nano-processor 559 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:15,519 with25 bilateral kelilactiral with 20 of those being slaved 560 00:28:15,563 --> 00:28:17,913 into the primary Heisenfram terminal. 561 00:28:17,957 --> 00:28:20,220 Now you do know what a bilateral kelilactiral is. 562 00:28:20,263 --> 00:28:22,091 ...would be hard to memorize... 563 00:28:22,135 --> 00:28:25,355 And, of course, you have to learn Klingon. And so, 564 00:28:29,838 --> 00:28:31,535 It's written out, and then, they have 565 00:28:31,579 --> 00:28:34,321 the phonetic pronunciations underneath it as well. 566 00:28:34,364 --> 00:28:39,456 So, fortunately, that grad school phonetics class came in handy quite a bit. 567 00:28:43,156 --> 00:28:49,118 It was incredible. They made up this entire language that worked. 568 00:28:49,162 --> 00:28:51,860 I had one word and it seemed to be very important. 569 00:28:51,904 --> 00:28:53,906 And it was... 570 00:28:53,949 --> 00:28:56,517 ...which, I think, means "Let's get the hell out of here" 571 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:57,866 or something like that. 572 00:28:57,910 --> 00:29:02,305 Somebody sent me a hard bound edition of Hamlet 573 00:29:02,349 --> 00:29:06,179 that had been translated into Klingon, which was astonishing. 574 00:29:06,222 --> 00:29:10,618 You know, just the idea of translatingHamlet into French makes my head explode. 575 00:29:10,661 --> 00:29:12,620 So, It's one of my prized possessions. 576 00:29:12,663 --> 00:29:14,883 It's just... It's really, really something. 577 00:29:14,927 --> 00:29:18,017 I had to sing a song in Klingon, Klingonese. 578 00:29:23,544 --> 00:29:25,807 I cannot remember it. So, don't ask me. 579 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:51,441 Awesome. 580 00:29:53,574 --> 00:29:54,793 Let's go kick some ass. 581 00:29:57,839 --> 00:30:01,321 No matter the alien race, from Andorian to Xindi, 582 00:30:01,364 --> 00:30:06,195 allStar Trek actors must master the script, whatever the language. 583 00:30:06,239 --> 00:30:09,938 You got to know every line, verbatim. 584 00:30:09,982 --> 00:30:13,072 They don't want you to change an "and" or an "or" or a... 585 00:30:14,290 --> 00:30:16,205 You've got to know it cold. 586 00:30:16,249 --> 00:30:19,426 You're in pain, Seven. I can help you. 587 00:30:19,469 --> 00:30:21,994 But surely there was a little improvisation? 588 00:30:22,037 --> 00:30:24,387 No, no, no, no. You can't improvise with the text. 589 00:30:24,431 --> 00:30:28,217 You don't paraphrase on Star Trek. 590 00:30:28,261 --> 00:30:29,915 I ad-libbed. 591 00:30:29,958 --> 00:30:31,481 - No, I'm kidding. -Yeah. 592 00:30:31,525 --> 00:30:33,179 Say the wrong thing, Torg. 593 00:30:35,398 --> 00:30:38,749 It seemed that the real overlords of theStar Trek universe 594 00:30:38,793 --> 00:30:41,230 weren't the Klingons... 595 00:30:41,274 --> 00:30:44,668 -...the Borg, or Q. - Moi? 596 00:30:44,712 --> 00:30:46,453 Well, is he really a baddie? 597 00:30:46,496 --> 00:30:47,758 Did you ever watch the show? 598 00:30:47,802 --> 00:30:50,326 At our first meeting, you seized my vessel. 599 00:30:50,370 --> 00:30:52,502 you condemned all humans as savages. 600 00:30:52,546 --> 00:30:55,505 Good point. It's the writers. 601 00:30:55,549 --> 00:30:58,944 Basically, it's, "This is how it's written. This is what we want. Deliver it." 602 00:30:58,987 --> 00:31:02,556 Star Trekis the only show I have ever worked on where... 603 00:31:04,036 --> 00:31:09,041 if you used a synonym for a word, 604 00:31:09,084 --> 00:31:12,914 they would cut, the script guy would come over and say, 605 00:31:12,958 --> 00:31:18,920 "You said 'Cat' and the line is 'Kitty.'" 606 00:31:18,964 --> 00:31:23,490 Some actors had absolutely no issue with the writers whatsoever. 607 00:31:23,533 --> 00:31:26,580 Probably, the most vivid thing I remember about the whole thing 608 00:31:26,623 --> 00:31:30,062 is that the first day I was on the set for a half hour 609 00:31:30,105 --> 00:31:33,369 and I was in bed with Deanna Troi, 610 00:31:33,413 --> 00:31:35,676 I rather like that I'm more difficult to read. 611 00:31:36,329 --> 00:31:38,113 than your other men. 612 00:31:38,157 --> 00:31:41,595 I don't know who put that together, but it worked for me. 613 00:31:41,638 --> 00:31:43,989 Some things worked well again and again, 614 00:31:44,032 --> 00:31:46,034 and that wasn't lost on the crew, 615 00:31:46,078 --> 00:31:50,256 who'd spent years sitting uncomfortably... - In dark corners, 616 00:31:50,299 --> 00:31:52,693 you know, on hard, wooden apple boxes. 617 00:31:52,736 --> 00:31:56,697 And be it the set ofEnterprise, Voyager or the original series, 618 00:31:56,740 --> 00:32:01,136 it's the crew who most noticed the writers repeat themselves. 619 00:32:01,180 --> 00:32:04,009 So, yeah, every character gets killed, and then, they bring them back. 620 00:32:05,924 --> 00:32:06,925 He's brain-dead. 621 00:32:08,143 --> 00:32:09,579 Commander... 622 00:32:09,623 --> 00:32:11,886 I said, "Really? I didn't know that. 623 00:32:11,930 --> 00:32:13,583 "What else can you tell me?" 624 00:32:13,627 --> 00:32:15,716 Uh, what you're gonna do is, I'm sure you're going to do 625 00:32:15,759 --> 00:32:18,719 an episode where you age a lot, and then, they bring you back. 626 00:32:18,762 --> 00:32:21,852 Commander Chakotay is suffering bone decalcification, 627 00:32:21,896 --> 00:32:26,509 tissue necrosis, decreased visual acuity, all classic signs of aging. 628 00:32:26,553 --> 00:32:30,905 And there'll probably be an episode where you fall in love with an alien. 629 00:32:34,387 --> 00:32:35,997 -Despite the... - Apple boxes. 630 00:32:36,041 --> 00:32:38,173 ...the crew were also quite comfortable 631 00:32:38,217 --> 00:32:42,264 in letting an actor know when the writers had put the writing on the wall. 632 00:32:42,308 --> 00:32:45,615 "So sorry to hear about what's happening to your character." 633 00:32:45,659 --> 00:32:47,443 I said, "Why? What's happening to my character?" 634 00:32:47,487 --> 00:32:50,751 And he said, "Oh, maybe, I better not tell you." 635 00:32:50,794 --> 00:32:53,014 and I ran into Ron, I said, "Ron, do I die?" 636 00:32:53,058 --> 00:32:54,668 Yes. 637 00:32:54,711 --> 00:32:58,367 And he says, "Oh, I just didn't have the heart to tell you. 638 00:32:58,411 --> 00:33:02,197 "Who told you that? It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter." 639 00:33:02,241 --> 00:33:03,894 And if your character does die, 640 00:33:03,938 --> 00:33:06,419 think twice about taking a memento home 641 00:33:06,462 --> 00:33:09,639 because, as they say, "You can't take it with you." 642 00:33:09,683 --> 00:33:13,208 You cannot take anything off the set. 643 00:33:13,252 --> 00:33:15,645 You would be in major trouble. Any of their brand, 644 00:33:15,689 --> 00:33:18,039 any of the Star Trekbrand, they protected. 645 00:33:18,083 --> 00:33:21,521 They had a checklist. They came back for your wardrobe. 646 00:33:21,564 --> 00:33:24,045 Well, a few things slipped through. 647 00:33:24,089 --> 00:33:27,092 There they are. Look at those. Look at those dusty old pair of boots. 648 00:33:27,135 --> 00:33:31,183 With props and costumes going for thousands on the collector market, 649 00:33:31,226 --> 00:33:34,577 I did keep one other thing. But then, I sold it. 650 00:33:34,621 --> 00:33:38,451 I had a friend that got a good hunk of the console years ago, 651 00:33:38,494 --> 00:33:41,410 and he... I think he got about 40 grand for it. 652 00:33:41,454 --> 00:33:45,240 The producers had to crack down on the bit parts taking bits. 653 00:33:45,284 --> 00:33:49,288 When I was doing these things, I never thought of asking to take anything. 654 00:33:49,331 --> 00:33:50,941 Well, Mark Rolston did. 655 00:33:50,985 --> 00:33:55,555 So, I asked, and got the most resounding, like, 656 00:33:55,598 --> 00:33:57,339 "Don't you dare." 657 00:33:57,383 --> 00:34:00,647 -Richard Herd dared. - Very difficult learning how to 658 00:34:00,690 --> 00:34:04,303 chat away with the Klingon teeth, which I saved. 659 00:34:04,346 --> 00:34:06,696 And sometimes, I chased my wife, Patricia, 660 00:34:06,740 --> 00:34:08,959 around the bedroom with my Klingon teeth. 661 00:34:11,005 --> 00:34:13,138 And Scott MacDonald dared. 662 00:34:13,181 --> 00:34:14,356 This is... 663 00:34:15,401 --> 00:34:17,316 a prop... 664 00:34:17,359 --> 00:34:20,362 from the set of Enterprise 665 00:34:20,406 --> 00:34:22,582 when I played Commander Dolim. 666 00:34:22,625 --> 00:34:26,325 There was a scene where the Xindi reptiles 667 00:34:26,368 --> 00:34:29,502 we're eating mice as they discussed their plans 668 00:34:29,545 --> 00:34:30,938 to take over the universe. 669 00:34:30,981 --> 00:34:33,027 And the piece de resistance... 670 00:34:33,984 --> 00:34:35,073 This is... 671 00:34:36,161 --> 00:34:38,902 an unbelievable thing to have. 672 00:34:38,946 --> 00:34:41,905 I don't know that very many actors have these. 673 00:34:41,949 --> 00:34:44,952 But while some requests were thoroughly denied... 674 00:34:44,995 --> 00:34:46,606 "Don't you dare." 675 00:34:46,649 --> 00:34:49,087 ...the biggest props go to showrunner, Brannon Braga, 676 00:34:49,130 --> 00:34:51,001 - who was dating... - ...bored babe. 677 00:34:51,045 --> 00:34:53,917 That be this bored babe. - Bored. Let's do something fun. 678 00:34:53,961 --> 00:34:58,444 And thusly, Jeri Ryan had her dreams of taking part of the set home... 679 00:34:58,487 --> 00:34:59,706 - Sweet dreams. - ...fulfilled. 680 00:34:59,749 --> 00:35:01,621 Yeah, I have my alcove. 681 00:35:01,664 --> 00:35:03,927 I figured, you know, four years of that makeup and that costume, 682 00:35:03,971 --> 00:35:06,278 the least I can do is get my alcove to bring home. 683 00:35:06,321 --> 00:35:09,933 Uh... 684 00:35:09,977 --> 00:35:11,935 How hard was it to get the alcove? - INTERVIEWER: Yeah. 685 00:35:11,979 --> 00:35:14,068 Uh, to my recollection, not at all. 686 00:35:14,112 --> 00:35:17,898 I was, you know, dating Brannon Braga. So, we had a little extra pull, probably. 687 00:35:17,941 --> 00:35:20,074 He'd need all the pull he could get. 688 00:35:20,118 --> 00:35:23,730 It was hard to deliver because it's such a huge thing. - 689 00:35:26,385 --> 00:35:28,735 Be it hours in the makeup chair, 690 00:35:28,778 --> 00:35:30,737 finding ways to nick props from the set, 691 00:35:30,780 --> 00:35:34,393 or lifting heavy set pieces into your girlfriend's apartment, 692 00:35:34,436 --> 00:35:39,528 only a few actors have attained the one role that steals the show. 693 00:35:43,837 --> 00:35:45,708 On anyStar Trek show, 694 00:35:45,752 --> 00:35:47,580 It's important to know who's at the helm. 695 00:35:47,623 --> 00:35:48,885 Take us in. 696 00:35:48,929 --> 00:35:51,758 We had fine directors, and we had directors, 697 00:35:51,801 --> 00:35:56,110 really, really well-known directors in television 698 00:35:56,154 --> 00:35:58,504 seeking to do Star Trek. 699 00:35:58,547 --> 00:36:02,595 And, you know, all actors, here's what they want to know about the director. 700 00:36:03,857 --> 00:36:05,163 Is he crazy? 701 00:36:05,685 --> 00:36:06,686 How crazy? 702 00:36:07,861 --> 00:36:09,863 Am I going to live? 703 00:36:09,906 --> 00:36:13,214 Armin Shimerman, appearing as one of the first ever Ferengi, 704 00:36:13,258 --> 00:36:15,390 If it moves, kill it. 705 00:36:15,434 --> 00:36:17,871 Sounds like he had a crazy one. 706 00:36:17,914 --> 00:36:23,006 The director, uh, was giving us all sorts of bizarre directions. 707 00:36:26,358 --> 00:36:28,098 I got this one! 708 00:36:28,142 --> 00:36:32,146 And, in fact, my first four years as Quark 709 00:36:32,190 --> 00:36:36,542 was to try and eradicate the mistakes I made as Letek. 710 00:36:36,585 --> 00:36:39,632 Because I'm a people-person. 711 00:36:39,675 --> 00:36:43,592 But, perhaps, trying to avoid having a crazy director, 712 00:36:43,636 --> 00:36:47,727 many of the actors themselves stepped behind the lens, 713 00:36:47,770 --> 00:36:51,296 and the tradition ofStar Trek actors becoming directors 714 00:36:51,339 --> 00:36:54,603 extends all the way back to the great Spock himself. 715 00:36:54,647 --> 00:36:57,040 People would often say to me, "You should be directing." 716 00:36:59,260 --> 00:37:02,263 The fact is, I was insulted. 717 00:37:02,307 --> 00:37:04,134 I thought, are all these people telling me 718 00:37:04,178 --> 00:37:06,659 there's something wrong with my acting? - 719 00:37:06,702 --> 00:37:08,574 But it wasn't a bad idea 720 00:37:08,617 --> 00:37:12,926 because, as of the end ofStar Trek II, Spock was dead, 721 00:37:12,969 --> 00:37:18,671 and Leonard Nimoy was resurrected as a feature film director. 722 00:37:18,714 --> 00:37:24,416 In all, 15 cast members directed over 100 episodes and films. 723 00:37:24,459 --> 00:37:27,375 So, I threw my hat in the ring. Obviously, I had done a bunch of episodes. 724 00:37:27,419 --> 00:37:29,595 By then, I was really into it. I was really psyched. 725 00:37:29,638 --> 00:37:31,379 They took a chance. 726 00:37:31,423 --> 00:37:34,208 I thought, "Here we go," and then, that movie was a huge success. 727 00:37:34,252 --> 00:37:37,167 It made a lot of money and everybody liked it. 728 00:37:37,211 --> 00:37:42,564 I loved him when he was my first officer 729 00:37:42,608 --> 00:37:43,957 on the Enterprise. 730 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,350 Take us out of orbit, Ensign Crusher. 731 00:37:45,393 --> 00:37:47,352 I love him when he directs me 732 00:37:47,395 --> 00:37:49,658 on Star Trekand on Leverage. 733 00:37:49,702 --> 00:37:54,315 I love him when I call him because I need advice. 734 00:37:54,359 --> 00:37:57,187 But not all actors make great directors at first. 735 00:37:57,231 --> 00:37:59,364 My first day of shooting was a disaster. 736 00:37:59,407 --> 00:38:03,106 We had this huge set, and the first setup, I think, 737 00:38:03,150 --> 00:38:05,239 was, like, took about eight hours. - 738 00:38:05,283 --> 00:38:07,546 So, the first day, I immediately fell a day behind. 739 00:38:09,461 --> 00:38:12,159 And Berman and Ira hated the up episode. 740 00:38:12,202 --> 00:38:14,379 You've never been right about anything. 741 00:38:14,422 --> 00:38:17,295 Then, they took me in the office and they made me go through frame by frame by frame 742 00:38:17,338 --> 00:38:20,472 because I was contracted to direct two more, and Berman said, 743 00:38:20,515 --> 00:38:23,692 "If you weren't under contract, I just wouldn't let you direct anymore" 744 00:38:23,736 --> 00:38:25,433 essentially. 745 00:38:25,477 --> 00:38:29,176 Now, step aside... and allow me to finish this sorry business. 746 00:38:29,219 --> 00:38:32,048 It seemed like everybody had the chance to direct. 747 00:38:32,092 --> 00:38:33,789 Well, Avery directed. 748 00:38:33,833 --> 00:38:36,705 Hmm. I don't know if I can see him directing this kind of stuff. 749 00:38:36,749 --> 00:38:38,707 I don't care if the odds are against us. 750 00:38:38,751 --> 00:38:40,318 Well, I was completely wrong. 751 00:38:40,361 --> 00:38:43,843 He was a wonderful director, such a great actor's director. 752 00:38:43,886 --> 00:38:47,412 All the males were allowed to direct whoever wanted to. 753 00:38:47,455 --> 00:38:48,848 But as for me... 754 00:38:48,891 --> 00:38:51,894 Did I have to campaign hard to direct an episode? 755 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,028 What do you think? Yeah. 756 00:38:55,071 --> 00:38:58,292 It took until my seventh year to get it, 757 00:38:58,336 --> 00:39:02,514 and they gave me this kind of scary, spooky episode, 758 00:39:02,557 --> 00:39:04,820 which was very un-Star Trek in a way. 759 00:39:07,997 --> 00:39:10,304 I was so grateful that I got that script. I really was. 760 00:39:10,348 --> 00:39:12,306 I had so much fun with it. 761 00:39:12,350 --> 00:39:15,135 As one of the first women to directStar Trek, 762 00:39:15,178 --> 00:39:20,793 I hope that I had some small role in opening the door to other women directors. 763 00:39:20,836 --> 00:39:25,667 And now, Hanelle Culpepper is leading the way with theStar Trek: Picard series, 764 00:39:25,711 --> 00:39:31,194 becoming the first female director to launch a newStar Trek series. 765 00:39:31,238 --> 00:39:36,461 But back in front of the camera, it wasn't until year 2371 766 00:39:36,504 --> 00:39:39,812 that a woman was finally put in charge. 767 00:39:39,855 --> 00:39:42,380 Well, Voyager had had a female captain. 768 00:39:42,423 --> 00:39:44,599 What can I do for you? 769 00:39:44,643 --> 00:39:47,950 And with Kate Mulgrew commanding the ship, Voyager was on course 770 00:39:47,994 --> 00:39:49,952 for seven more years ofStar Trek. 771 00:39:49,996 --> 00:39:52,868 But audiences were hardly bowled over in the beginning. 772 00:39:52,912 --> 00:39:55,218 The ratings kept going lower and lower, and I think, 773 00:39:55,262 --> 00:39:58,831 if you talk to the fans, they would blame it on the writing. 774 00:39:58,874 --> 00:40:02,051 So, those writers wrote in a new character. 775 00:40:02,095 --> 00:40:05,446 People saying it's a blatant attempt to up the ratings... Well, yeah. 776 00:40:05,490 --> 00:40:06,839 That's why they added the new character. 777 00:40:06,882 --> 00:40:09,624 The ratings were lagging, the show was tanking. 778 00:40:09,668 --> 00:40:13,759 And, as they say, all publicity is good publicity. 779 00:40:13,802 --> 00:40:17,763 We took a lot of criticism, that we were, you know, cheapening the show, 780 00:40:17,806 --> 00:40:20,330 and were turning it into Baywatchin space. 781 00:40:20,374 --> 00:40:23,943 Like we got a lot of crap from the Deep Space Ninewriters 782 00:40:23,986 --> 00:40:26,032 who thought we were kind of selling out 783 00:40:26,075 --> 00:40:29,775 and bringing a bimbo onto the ship and all, which, frankly, kind of sexist. 784 00:40:29,818 --> 00:40:32,560 And I see the way your pupils dilate when you look at my body. 785 00:40:32,604 --> 00:40:34,997 Some of the members of the cast thought 786 00:40:35,041 --> 00:40:38,044 that all the publicity that this new character 787 00:40:38,087 --> 00:40:42,657 was going to be getting was sort of due them. 788 00:40:42,701 --> 00:40:44,746 It was a mild shot. 789 00:40:44,790 --> 00:40:47,880 It was a little conflict there, you know, and usually, when the cameras go off, 790 00:40:47,923 --> 00:40:50,578 there's some banter, either work-wise 791 00:40:50,622 --> 00:40:54,452 or just to make things comfortable. 792 00:40:54,495 --> 00:40:57,237 And I looked to one of them, 793 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:01,328 in between the scenes, and she's staring at the board up here, 794 00:41:01,371 --> 00:41:04,592 and I looked over here and she's staring up at the board, too. 795 00:41:04,636 --> 00:41:09,728 And I thought, well, I probably shouldn't interrupt them. 796 00:41:09,771 --> 00:41:15,473 they must be, you know, just staying in a frame of mind that they need. 797 00:41:15,516 --> 00:41:17,649 I come to find out they could not stand each other. 798 00:41:17,692 --> 00:41:21,914 You came here hoping to stop me. You'll fail. 799 00:41:21,957 --> 00:41:24,264 Turn this ship around. That's an order. 800 00:41:24,307 --> 00:41:27,223 Your orders are irrelevant. I'm no longer under your command. 801 00:41:27,267 --> 00:41:32,272 Jeri Ryan's character, Seven of Nine, proved to be a fan favorite, 802 00:41:32,315 --> 00:41:34,927 and ratings did begin to climb after her arrival. 803 00:41:34,970 --> 00:41:37,190 Take off your clothes. 804 00:41:37,233 --> 00:41:39,888 -However... - Coming into an existing show midway through is never easy. 805 00:41:39,932 --> 00:41:41,368 It's never gonna be easy. 806 00:41:41,411 --> 00:41:43,805 And when the attention shifts 807 00:41:43,849 --> 00:41:47,417 because there's somebody new and the publicity machine is going crazy, 808 00:41:47,461 --> 00:41:49,507 and there making this huge push. 809 00:41:49,550 --> 00:41:51,987 That's not going to be easy. It's just not. 810 00:41:52,031 --> 00:41:55,730 But yeah, it was a very difficult four years. It was very tense. 811 00:41:55,774 --> 00:41:58,603 It was not... I don't... Unfortunately, I don't look back. 812 00:41:58,646 --> 00:42:01,562 As many laughs as I had, and as much as I adored 813 00:42:01,606 --> 00:42:04,652 working with all of them, I don't... 814 00:42:04,696 --> 00:42:06,524 I can't look back on that four-year period 815 00:42:06,567 --> 00:42:10,353 with this wonderful, glowing memory because it was so difficult. 816 00:42:10,397 --> 00:42:13,618 It was so tense and difficult. So, that's unfortunate. 817 00:42:13,661 --> 00:42:16,621 I'm sorry that I can't look back on it with better memories. 818 00:42:26,935 --> 00:42:28,241 Set a course... 819 00:42:28,284 --> 00:42:29,808 WhenVoyager's last episode... 820 00:42:29,851 --> 00:42:31,026 ...for home. 821 00:42:31,070 --> 00:42:33,159 ...screened May 23rd, 2001, 822 00:42:33,202 --> 00:42:36,945 the fifth successful series of theStar Trek franchise was over. 823 00:42:40,470 --> 00:42:42,734 But fans didn't have to wait long at all... 824 00:42:42,777 --> 00:42:44,692 Enterprise. 825 00:42:44,736 --> 00:42:48,696 ...because the promos were already rolling out for the next one. 826 00:42:48,740 --> 00:42:53,701 Star Trek: Enterprise was to be the sixth series in the franchise. 827 00:42:53,745 --> 00:42:55,747 - However... - They kind of flooded the market 828 00:42:55,790 --> 00:42:58,924 with three different series at the same time. 829 00:42:58,967 --> 00:43:01,622 -Star Trek: Voyager, -Deep Space Nine. 830 00:43:01,666 --> 00:43:03,972 You know, every time they turn on the television, there it was. 831 00:43:04,016 --> 00:43:05,844 - Are you sure? -Damn sure. 832 00:43:05,887 --> 00:43:08,368 I remember taking the phone call about the show ending 833 00:43:08,411 --> 00:43:14,069 and we were going to have the big class photo outside the gates of Paramount. 834 00:43:14,113 --> 00:43:17,333 And I'm standing with Brannon Braga, the chief guy, 835 00:43:17,377 --> 00:43:20,075 and I saw Brannon turn around, 836 00:43:20,119 --> 00:43:25,254 and he looked at this hairy looking thing called the Tellarite 837 00:43:25,298 --> 00:43:28,780 standing there with the sun glancing off his nose, 838 00:43:28,823 --> 00:43:30,912 and we all just looked at it and he just went, 839 00:43:31,696 --> 00:43:33,785 "Yeah, It's time." 840 00:43:37,092 --> 00:43:40,922 That's funny. 841 00:43:40,966 --> 00:43:44,230 - Oh. -That's good. 842 00:43:44,273 --> 00:43:47,668 And with that, for the first time in 18 years, 843 00:43:47,712 --> 00:43:50,671 there would be no newStar Trek episodes. 844 00:43:50,715 --> 00:43:54,196 So, it's like, "Okay, let's take a break." 845 00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:58,244 And now, ten years... ten years later... 846 00:43:58,287 --> 00:44:03,728 It all started again, and actors once again began looking for work. 847 00:44:03,771 --> 00:44:06,948 When I heard they were doing a new Star Trek and Star Trek: Discovery, 848 00:44:06,992 --> 00:44:10,691 I just begged my agents, I just said I would love to meet the producers. 849 00:44:10,735 --> 00:44:13,128 I'd love to see if there's anything that I might be right for. 850 00:44:13,172 --> 00:44:15,130 I say, bring it on. 851 00:44:15,174 --> 00:44:17,219 And they said, "How about Harry Mudd? 852 00:44:17,263 --> 00:44:20,092 "It's a couple of episodes, might recur more." 853 00:44:20,135 --> 00:44:22,964 And I was like, "Yes!" 854 00:44:23,008 --> 00:44:25,924 It was one of those great actor moments of, like, 855 00:44:25,967 --> 00:44:27,969 "This is delicious." 856 00:44:28,013 --> 00:44:29,928 And I will have my revenge. 857 00:44:31,494 --> 00:44:34,193 Also, I'm going to kill you as many times as possible. 858 00:44:34,236 --> 00:44:38,110 However, Rainn Wilson was in an unusual position, 859 00:44:38,153 --> 00:44:40,634 along with some other newStar Trek actors 860 00:44:40,678 --> 00:44:45,639 in that he was playing a role that already had a long history with the series. 861 00:44:45,683 --> 00:44:47,728 I don't believe it. 862 00:44:47,772 --> 00:44:53,255 I went back and watched the original Mudd episodes and saw what he was doing. 863 00:44:53,299 --> 00:44:55,910 Well, you should refer to me as Mudd, the First. 864 00:44:55,954 --> 00:44:58,739 It was very similar to playing Dwight on The Office, 865 00:44:58,783 --> 00:45:02,612 where I was inheriting a role from a previous actor. 866 00:45:02,656 --> 00:45:06,529 So, that's a great place to be in because you get to steal 867 00:45:06,573 --> 00:45:10,882 what they do really well, and then, you get to add your own mojo. 868 00:45:10,925 --> 00:45:14,407 In recent years, mojo is flying everywhere. 869 00:45:14,450 --> 00:45:19,238 JJ Abrams's threeStar Trek films made big bucks at the box office 870 00:45:19,281 --> 00:45:22,632 by recasting characters from the original series. 871 00:45:22,676 --> 00:45:25,461 It's not easy for all those actors to step into those roles. 872 00:45:25,505 --> 00:45:27,376 Not easy. 873 00:45:27,420 --> 00:45:30,031 Treacherous. It's a treacherous step. 874 00:45:30,075 --> 00:45:32,381 Very flattering to me that the character 875 00:45:32,425 --> 00:45:35,123 is strong enough to be carried on by somebody else successfully. 876 00:45:35,167 --> 00:45:37,386 I think it's great, and he's a very good actor. 877 00:45:37,430 --> 00:45:40,346 Very intelligent actor. So, I'm very happy about it. 878 00:45:41,477 --> 00:45:44,263 I think she's marvelous. She told me, 879 00:45:44,306 --> 00:45:46,787 "I was so nervous when I got this role," 880 00:45:46,831 --> 00:45:48,789 and I said, "Why? You're so good." 881 00:45:48,833 --> 00:45:53,925 And she said, "I thought you would hate me," 882 00:45:53,968 --> 00:45:58,451 and I said "I do. You're just too damn good," you know. So... 883 00:45:58,494 --> 00:46:02,020 We even saw a reprise ofStar Trek's greatest villain... 884 00:46:02,063 --> 00:46:03,978 Khan! 885 00:46:04,022 --> 00:46:08,156 ...as we know, originally played by... - Ricardo Montalban. 886 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:12,595 ...both in the '60s and '80s, but in 2013'sInto Darkness, 887 00:46:12,639 --> 00:46:16,295 - To exploit my savagery. -Benedict Cumberbatch took on the role. 888 00:46:16,338 --> 00:46:17,992 Shall we begin? 889 00:46:18,036 --> 00:46:20,429 And even though his pecs were nowhere to be seen, 890 00:46:20,473 --> 00:46:22,954 his acting muscles were on full display. 891 00:46:22,997 --> 00:46:26,609 My name is Khan. 892 00:46:26,653 --> 00:46:28,524 Here's the English accent. 893 00:46:28,568 --> 00:46:30,831 They told me I can't have one. Look at him. 894 00:46:30,875 --> 00:46:33,051 Well, whether you like it or not, 895 00:46:33,094 --> 00:46:36,576 there is a place where every Star Trek actor can go 896 00:46:36,619 --> 00:46:40,841 and be praised for their part in a TV show like no other. 897 00:46:40,885 --> 00:46:45,541 For an actor, Star Trekis the gift that keeps on giving. 898 00:46:45,585 --> 00:46:49,894 After you've done your Star Trekepisodes, you can do conventions. 899 00:46:49,937 --> 00:46:52,157 And as unique as they are, 900 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,116 Star Trek conventions are not a new thing. 901 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:59,860 We did a convention almost immediately that the show was over. 902 00:46:59,904 --> 00:47:02,602 And they are still here in some kind of, well... 903 00:47:02,645 --> 00:47:04,343 What's the word I'm looking for? 904 00:47:04,386 --> 00:47:07,215 I mean, it just generates again, and again, and again. 905 00:47:07,259 --> 00:47:10,262 The best fans in the whole world. 906 00:47:10,305 --> 00:47:12,003 Star Trekfans. 907 00:47:12,046 --> 00:47:16,137 AndStar Trek fans live forStar Trek. 908 00:47:16,181 --> 00:47:21,969 You suddenly realize how much they give a damn. 909 00:47:22,013 --> 00:47:24,842 But in some cases, Star Trek actors live 910 00:47:24,885 --> 00:47:27,192 because ofStar Trek fans and the conventions. 911 00:47:27,235 --> 00:47:32,197 It's still a huge part of my life, and a big part of that is the fandom, 912 00:47:32,240 --> 00:47:35,983 and going all over the world doing conventions. 913 00:47:36,027 --> 00:47:39,595 That's a whole new world that's opened up for me, um, 914 00:47:39,639 --> 00:47:42,294 signing Harry Mudd photos now. 915 00:47:42,337 --> 00:47:46,733 Oh, I have signed so much in this world. 916 00:47:46,776 --> 00:47:50,128 I mean, you know... And the fact that anybody wants another 917 00:47:50,171 --> 00:47:52,347 of my signatures, I just can't believe it. 918 00:47:54,262 --> 00:47:56,743 Nobody really recognizes me unless I do this. 919 00:47:56,786 --> 00:47:59,093 You know, it's almost like... 920 00:47:59,137 --> 00:48:04,838 My situation is always, people come up to the table and they look at the pictures. 921 00:48:04,882 --> 00:48:06,579 And then they look at me, 922 00:48:06,622 --> 00:48:08,407 and then they look at the pictures, and then they look at me. 923 00:48:08,450 --> 00:48:11,453 So, I sit there, kind of dealing and that sort of 924 00:48:11,497 --> 00:48:14,456 uncomfortable stew, actor ego stuff, I guess. I don't know. 925 00:48:14,500 --> 00:48:16,371 Aw, cheer up, guys. 926 00:48:16,415 --> 00:48:21,420 It was depressing at first, but they really want to meet you. 927 00:48:21,463 --> 00:48:25,903 and it's, for some of them, a high point of their life. 928 00:48:25,946 --> 00:48:28,818 It's not difficult to make somebody's day when you're in this position. 929 00:48:28,862 --> 00:48:31,909 It's really nice, and it's nice to be able to make somebody smile. 930 00:48:31,952 --> 00:48:34,737 Not everyone's approach is so altruistic. 931 00:48:34,781 --> 00:48:38,263 I mean, the minute you walk in that hotel, you're Brad Pitt, mate, 932 00:48:38,306 --> 00:48:40,178 and they all want a piece of you. 933 00:48:40,221 --> 00:48:43,311 If you're not careful, you can wind up thinking you're Jesus Christ. 934 00:48:47,359 --> 00:48:49,361 It was, maybe too enjoyable. 935 00:48:49,404 --> 00:48:52,016 I'm going to have to remind myself every day... 936 00:48:54,279 --> 00:48:56,629 ...that we didn't come out here to play God. 937 00:48:56,672 --> 00:48:58,936 God, I remember my first convention. 938 00:48:58,979 --> 00:49:04,854 Pushed open the bathroom door, and there's two Klingons standing there. 939 00:49:04,898 --> 00:49:09,250 When they saw Malcolm Reed walking and they were like, 940 00:49:09,294 --> 00:49:14,386 I'm like, "All right, lads." So, I nip around the corner for a pee 941 00:49:14,429 --> 00:49:19,478 and I can hear them whispering, presumably about me. 942 00:49:20,653 --> 00:49:22,002 That's obvious, sir. 943 00:49:22,046 --> 00:49:24,396 Because it was in Klingon. 944 00:49:27,790 --> 00:49:31,272 Well, as far as the perks of the show, um, 945 00:49:31,316 --> 00:49:33,883 some of them, I won't go into because I'm married now. 946 00:49:33,927 --> 00:49:35,973 No, I'm not talking about groupies. Um... 947 00:49:37,539 --> 00:49:40,890 Sort of. I mean, yeah. I won't say they don't exist. 948 00:49:40,934 --> 00:49:44,024 Well, you know, when I was single, um... 949 00:49:44,068 --> 00:49:49,073 Yes, you could find... You could have a nice, charming evening. 950 00:49:49,116 --> 00:49:51,336 I can see the attraction. 951 00:49:51,379 --> 00:49:52,990 Some women find this neck sexy. 952 00:50:01,128 --> 00:50:03,609 For all that Star Trek brought us, 953 00:50:03,652 --> 00:50:06,873 the laughs, the tears, the pointy ears, 954 00:50:06,916 --> 00:50:11,138 there's one thing that all of us lucky enough to have been part of it 955 00:50:11,182 --> 00:50:12,966 are the most proud of. 956 00:50:13,010 --> 00:50:16,230 I was pleased with the fact that we were dealing with issues 957 00:50:16,274 --> 00:50:20,234 that had a sociopolitical reference and relevance. 958 00:50:20,278 --> 00:50:24,151 Gene set it all up. He did it. And this is what we're going to do. 959 00:50:24,195 --> 00:50:26,980 And you've got the script and you've read the script and you're going, 960 00:50:27,024 --> 00:50:29,591 We'll start to live the way the Fuhrer meant us to live. 961 00:50:29,635 --> 00:50:31,245 Is he kidding? 962 00:50:31,289 --> 00:50:33,595 They'll never let him get away with it. 963 00:50:33,639 --> 00:50:37,077 There was an episode where the guy was black on one side and white on the other. I mean, 964 00:50:37,121 --> 00:50:40,689 you'd have to be an idiot not to get that. 965 00:50:40,733 --> 00:50:42,952 We were one of the few shows that could approach 966 00:50:42,996 --> 00:50:46,608 the question of the Vietnam War because nobody else could. 967 00:50:46,652 --> 00:50:48,958 There is nothing good in war except its ending. 968 00:50:49,002 --> 00:50:51,135 We could call it something else. 969 00:50:51,178 --> 00:50:54,181 and still have it be about the war. 970 00:50:54,225 --> 00:50:56,531 And nobody ever said a word to us. - Spock. 971 00:50:56,575 --> 00:50:59,273 There was so much happening racially and politically in the world. 972 00:50:59,317 --> 00:51:01,058 And then, when you turn on your TV, and then, 973 00:51:01,101 --> 00:51:04,713 there's this white fellow and this lovely black woman, 974 00:51:04,757 --> 00:51:05,932 and they have a kiss. 975 00:51:05,975 --> 00:51:07,673 But not just any kiss. 976 00:51:07,716 --> 00:51:11,546 This was the very first interracial kiss on television. 977 00:51:11,590 --> 00:51:13,070 So, it was a big deal. 978 00:51:13,113 --> 00:51:15,115 It wasn't a big deal to me. 979 00:51:16,508 --> 00:51:17,552 Jesus. 980 00:51:17,596 --> 00:51:19,293 Let's get on with it. 981 00:51:19,337 --> 00:51:21,948 Did Shatner wanna do it? - Oh, yeah. You kidding? 982 00:51:25,734 --> 00:51:27,867 Genius. 983 00:51:27,910 --> 00:51:32,132 That's what... That's why, for me, Star Trekhas endured for 55 years 984 00:51:32,176 --> 00:51:36,702 because everybody got the message that we are the same. 985 00:51:36,745 --> 00:51:43,187 It doesn't matter whether we're black, white, Hispanic, green, blue, half-black, half-white, 986 00:51:43,230 --> 00:51:44,666 we're all the same. 987 00:51:44,710 --> 00:51:47,321 Gene's vision, he was very clear. 988 00:51:47,365 --> 00:51:50,019 The humans of the 24th century didn't have 989 00:51:50,063 --> 00:51:55,764 war, disease, poverty, hunger. Gone. 990 00:51:55,808 --> 00:51:57,984 Religion, too, for that matter. 991 00:51:58,027 --> 00:52:00,029 A secular, enlightened society. 992 00:52:01,205 --> 00:52:03,424 For us, in this country, 993 00:52:03,468 --> 00:52:09,038 it's sort of the idealization of American values, and, you know, how we see ourselves. 994 00:52:09,082 --> 00:52:13,086 People of color and people all over the world. 995 00:52:13,130 --> 00:52:16,394 can see themselves in the future 996 00:52:16,437 --> 00:52:19,875 with important parts and important jobs in life, 997 00:52:19,919 --> 00:52:24,358 um, and everybody's represented. 998 00:52:24,402 --> 00:52:29,276 It's not just a fun TV show, and it's not just a good show. 999 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,974 It's just... It's special. 1000 00:52:33,150 --> 00:52:35,717 Gene Roddenberry was just amazing, 1001 00:52:36,936 --> 00:52:39,373 and I never forgave him for dying. 1002 00:52:39,939 --> 00:52:41,636 It was like... 1003 00:52:42,681 --> 00:52:45,205 someone you depend on 1004 00:52:45,249 --> 00:52:49,557 to keep bringing the beauty of the world to be. 1005 00:52:51,385 --> 00:52:52,691 Mmm. 1006 00:52:55,302 --> 00:52:58,958 Well, I really think that's, in large part, 1007 00:52:59,001 --> 00:53:02,266 what the success of Star Trek, as a franchise, is. 1008 00:53:02,309 --> 00:53:03,702 Saving the galaxy? 1009 00:53:03,745 --> 00:53:06,139 It's because it's an optimistic view of the future. 1010 00:53:06,183 --> 00:53:10,448 And I think that's what people want to grab onto, and I think we need that. 1011 00:53:10,491 --> 00:53:16,845 As long as we, as a species, have something to learn, Star Trekwill be relevant. 1012 00:53:16,889 --> 00:53:23,243 To have created in this culture something that is as iconic as this show, 1013 00:53:23,287 --> 00:53:27,160 that lasts as long as this show, that involves as many people as it has, 1014 00:53:27,204 --> 00:53:31,251 it's quite extraordinary. So, it's a testament to the adventure 1015 00:53:31,295 --> 00:53:34,298 that Roddenberry wanted to create. 1016 00:53:34,341 --> 00:53:38,780 Star Trekreflects, in its various characters, 1017 00:53:38,824 --> 00:53:41,130 different portions of the human condition. 1018 00:53:41,174 --> 00:53:44,177 And it's the actors who brought those characters to life 1019 00:53:44,221 --> 00:53:46,397 that we need to thank most of all. 1020 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,313 You are sort of part of a legacy. 1021 00:53:49,356 --> 00:53:53,447 And there are legions of people 1022 00:53:53,491 --> 00:53:57,886 that have been on the road and the journey before you. 1023 00:53:57,930 --> 00:54:01,847 Most people are pretty proud to be in Star Trek. 1024 00:54:01,890 --> 00:54:05,154 You know, if any other show in the world that you could have gotten on, 1025 00:54:05,198 --> 00:54:06,982 a pretty cool one to have gotten on. 1026 00:54:07,026 --> 00:54:11,291 It was awesome, you know, to be a part of something that is iconic. 1027 00:54:11,335 --> 00:54:15,513 I was a Star Trekfan, who was in a Star Trekseries as a series regular. 1028 00:54:16,427 --> 00:54:19,386 I had won the lottery. 1029 00:54:19,430 --> 00:54:22,476 Being a part ofStar Trek, I am not exaggerating here, 1030 00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,392 It really did change my life. It opened up... 1031 00:54:25,436 --> 00:54:29,004 I thought, what was going to be one episode 1032 00:54:29,048 --> 00:54:31,572 ended up being literally a life... 1033 00:54:31,616 --> 00:54:34,227 certainly a career-changing experience. 1034 00:54:34,271 --> 00:54:36,142 I've been so fortunate. 1035 00:54:36,185 --> 00:54:40,146 The whole energy of the show, the cast, the fans. 1036 00:54:40,189 --> 00:54:42,627 Actually, I should be so lucky. 1037 00:54:42,670 --> 00:54:45,282 That's kind of trite and sentimental. But whatever. 1038 00:54:45,325 --> 00:54:47,066 - That's good. -Yeah, that's good. 1039 00:54:47,109 --> 00:54:51,505 And I love everybody and, you know, I love Dr. Crusher. 1040 00:54:51,549 --> 00:54:56,510 My experience on Star Trekis, it would be hugely ungrateful of me 1041 00:54:56,554 --> 00:55:00,297 to have any kind of negative thoughts about it at all. 1042 00:55:00,340 --> 00:55:02,690 It's been a great blessing. 1043 00:55:04,126 --> 00:55:05,563 So, I mean, I got a picture of me with 1044 00:55:05,606 --> 00:55:07,478 a ray gun, for God's sake, you know? 1045 00:55:07,521 --> 00:55:10,263 Those years changed my life, and they continue to, 1046 00:55:10,307 --> 00:55:12,831 you know, define my life in many ways. 1047 00:55:12,874 --> 00:55:15,703 Seven of Nine was a gift, as an actor. 1048 00:55:15,747 --> 00:55:20,447 She really was, in every way. This character was... This gave me a career. 1049 00:55:20,491 --> 00:55:24,582 and you couldn't... I couldn't have asked for a richer role to play. 1050 00:55:24,625 --> 00:55:30,327 Star Trekis the most important thing I've done in my career. 1051 00:55:30,370 --> 00:55:35,375 The best best part of having been part of the Star Trekexperience 1052 00:55:35,419 --> 00:55:37,072 are the people I've gotten to know. 1053 00:55:37,116 --> 00:55:41,381 It was a gift to be able to be with those people 1054 00:55:41,425 --> 00:55:45,080 all those hours every day. We laughed all the time. 1055 00:55:45,124 --> 00:55:49,084 We're still, to a person, really close friends 1056 00:55:49,128 --> 00:55:52,218 all these years later. Um, they're family, 1057 00:55:52,261 --> 00:55:58,311 and that was really the greatest gift of all. 1058 00:55:58,355 --> 00:56:02,097 I'm really proud that I got to participate in it because, you know, 1059 00:56:02,141 --> 00:56:04,273 you don't get to say that with a lot of stuff. 1060 00:56:05,318 --> 00:56:07,407 This is one thing that, you know, 1061 00:56:09,583 --> 00:56:13,413 I always am lit when I think... No. - 1062 00:56:13,457 --> 00:56:18,200 That didn't sound right. Hmm. It's always light up. 1063 00:56:18,244 --> 00:56:21,552 To be an actor in theStar Trek legacy is an honor, 1064 00:56:21,595 --> 00:56:25,338 and as one of the 8,000-and-counting actors 1065 00:56:25,382 --> 00:56:28,210 who've become part of sci-fi lore, 1066 00:56:28,254 --> 00:56:30,865 there's one truth that can't be ignored. 1067 00:56:30,909 --> 00:56:34,521 I wonder sometimes, whether playing Quark, 1068 00:56:36,131 --> 00:56:38,525 was it a detraction from my career? 1069 00:56:38,569 --> 00:56:43,530 Because Star Trek, although very popular around the world, 1070 00:56:43,574 --> 00:56:46,098 it is not very popular in Hollywood, 1071 00:56:46,141 --> 00:56:49,275 that it is a lesser franchise. 1072 00:56:49,318 --> 00:56:54,585 in most producers', studio heads' minds. 1073 00:56:56,021 --> 00:56:59,807 The list of actors or actresses who have won awards 1074 00:56:59,851 --> 00:57:04,812 like Emmys or Oscars from working in a science fiction project 1075 00:57:04,856 --> 00:57:08,207 is a very short list, very short list. 1076 00:57:08,250 --> 00:57:13,168 It is simply not recognized by members of the Academy 1077 00:57:13,212 --> 00:57:19,087 as a level of work that calls for honors, 1078 00:57:19,131 --> 00:57:21,481 calls for being honored that way. 1079 00:57:21,525 --> 00:57:27,922 Technical honors, yes. Wonderful special effects, wonderful sets, wonderful music and so forth. 1080 00:57:27,966 --> 00:57:31,839 But not for the actors. Actors who work in science fiction, 1081 00:57:31,883 --> 00:57:35,495 particularly then, in those years, are seen to be working 1082 00:57:35,539 --> 00:57:38,629 in a kind of a sub-genre. as something less than wonderful, 1083 00:57:38,672 --> 00:57:43,024 something less than qualifies for honors. 1084 00:57:43,068 --> 00:57:46,245 And that's why actors avoided it. I found... 1085 00:57:47,333 --> 00:57:49,074 a level of comfort doing it. 1086 00:57:49,117 --> 00:57:52,817 The great Leonard Nimoy passed away in 2015... 1087 00:57:52,860 --> 00:57:55,907 I shall simply say, good luck. 1088 00:57:55,950 --> 00:58:00,172 ...having won neither an Emmy nor an Oscar, 1089 00:58:00,215 --> 00:58:05,394 but joining a list of acting legends who will live forever on our TVs, 1090 00:58:05,438 --> 00:58:09,877 whenever we need them, knowing they were part 1091 00:58:09,921 --> 00:58:12,576 of the most wonderful, celebrated, 1092 00:58:12,619 --> 00:58:16,536 long running and important TV shows ever made. 1093 00:58:17,276 --> 00:58:19,757 You see, I'm an actor. 1094 00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:24,109 But for those of us who loveStar Trek in whichever series or timeline, 1095 00:58:24,152 --> 00:58:30,028 we oweStar Trek's original actor and all those who came after him a lot. 1096 00:58:30,071 --> 00:58:32,552 What I wanted to do is make a living as an actor. 1097 00:58:32,596 --> 00:58:35,686 And I probably would have been happy in a stock company somewhere in Kansas, 1098 00:58:35,729 --> 00:58:40,255 doing plays, week after week, playing different characters. 1099 00:58:40,299 --> 00:58:47,828 Instead, I was given a role that took me on a wonderful, wonderful journey. 1100 00:58:47,872 --> 00:58:52,180 From Roddenberry's vision, to the writers who gave it life, 1101 00:58:52,224 --> 00:58:57,185 to the wizards who brought this utopian world onto our TV sets. 1102 00:58:57,229 --> 00:59:02,756 The reruns now plays every day. In a way, I have reached immortality, 1103 00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,367 uh, for at least another 50 years, maybe. 1104 00:59:05,411 --> 00:59:10,764 To the original actors who showed up on set and made history, 1105 00:59:10,808 --> 00:59:13,114 And we really never knew what was going to be 1106 00:59:13,158 --> 00:59:15,247 in the future, whether we had a future. 1107 00:59:15,290 --> 00:59:19,207 But this has been such a momentous circumstance in my life. 1108 00:59:19,251 --> 00:59:23,516 It was really profoundly wonderful. 1109 00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:25,866 I'm Star Trek and Star Trekis me. 1110 00:59:28,521 --> 00:59:31,002 Couldn't ask for more. 1111 00:59:31,045 --> 00:59:33,308 I imagine you wouldn't trade your career for any other. 1112 00:59:33,352 --> 00:59:35,702 No, thank you. No, thank you. 1113 00:59:35,746 --> 00:59:37,399 I'm a very, very lucky guy. 95770

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