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Space, the final frontier.
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For well over 50 years,
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a fearless crew of pioneers
have faced the unknown...
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Out there.
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...on an endless quest,
looking for stars...
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- That way.
- ...but not up there in space.
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More that direction.
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Down here
in sector 001, otherwise known as Hollywood,
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where you'll find
every species in the galaxy.
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You see, I'm an actor.
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Every actor in town
worked on those shows.
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And this is the story,
not of the captains...
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- Aye, Captain.
- ...or the ships they commanded,
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- but of the first officers...
- Fire.
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- ...crew...
- It was a great part to get to play.
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- ...the occasional doctor.
- That's odd.
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Actually, that's me.
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And of course,
there were many, many aliens. -
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From the
original series... - Captain.
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...to the movies and
every T.V. series since... - Engage.
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Yes! It was one of those
great actor moments.
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- It was horrifying.
-Star Trek means so much to so many.
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You're Brad Pitt, mate, and
they all want a piece of you.
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You can get Trekkies
from birth to death.
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And be it
the big bucks, or sad minimum...
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Co-workers were
a pain in the ass.
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...it's the actors
who bringsStar Trek to life.
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I fake for a living.
It's what I do.
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From
the series regulars...
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I was hired
to play this character on the pilot, and that was it.
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...big parts,
guest spots...
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Guest stars.
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And I played Rain Robinson
in Star Trek: Voyagerin 1997.
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So, beam aboard
and hold on tight
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as we boldly meet
the actors ofStar Trek...
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and you can see it all
from here inThe Center Seat.
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During stardate 1950s,
mankind had long been looking up at the stars...
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...and quickly back down again toward movie screens.
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That is correct, sir.
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Fascinated by
an unknown fictional universe,
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out of reach from science
but well within the grasp of our imaginations,
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We have come
to visit you in peace,
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and with goodwill.
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So for a young actor,
back then, making it big
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sometimes meant
shooting for the stars.
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I think they're all dead.
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I was always interested
in science fiction,
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and I had worked
in science fiction all the way back to 1950,
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Zombies of the Stratosphere.
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Instead of plummeting
through the stratosphere and back to earth with a thud,
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Leonard Nimoy
was destined for far greater heights.
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I was working
pretty good at the time.
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My career was
moving along nicely.
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So, when an
ex-World War II fighter pilot turned airline pilot
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turned LAPD officer
named Gene Roddenberry,
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turned his hand
to script writing,
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well, Leonard Nimoy's ears
didn't exactly prick up.
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"He's going to produce a pilot,
you might be cast in it,
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"It might be sold and
it might go on the air."
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You know, it was
all those maybes.
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And if
it was going to happen, they'd probably need a...
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- Captain.
- Yes, sir.
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Shatner, I think
the one big film that he got was Judgment at Nuremberg.
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And everything...
His career pointed right to him becoming,
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uh, you know,
the next movie star.
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Okay, Judge.
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I would have kept him
away from television if I were his agent.
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But as it turns out,
look at this long, long, long career.
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Set warp factor one.
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And there's just
a magnetism to him
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in his portrayal that
I think is really key to the success of the show.
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But they
could not do it alone.
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Regarding the casting,
the easiest place to go
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was people that we
were both familiar with,
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that we had both
used in The Lieutenant.
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My first
television thing I did,
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the producer-director
was Gene Roddenberry,
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I was just like,
"Hey, let's go!" you know.
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And boldly go,
they did.
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It was
an interracial show
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of equal people
doing equal things.
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Transmission
has been cut off.
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I was the first
African-American actress
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in a leading role
on television.
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But in Hollywood,
opportunities to play
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an iconic character like this
are few and far between.
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It's the luck of the draw
for freelance actors.
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You never know
what's coming down the pipe.
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This business
is so extraordinary
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in terms of the serendipity,
in terms of the coincidence,
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I know this saying.
It was invented in Russia.
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Three years before Star Trek,
I was brought in to read for a role
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of a Russian student
who was defecting.
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It was a show
calledMr. Novak.
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"You Americans live in a world of dreams."
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I remember,
that was one of the lines.
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Three years later,
I get the call for Star Trek.
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Makes me homesick,
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just like Russia.
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More like the Garden
of Eden, Ensign.
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Of course, doctor.
The Garden of Eden was just outside Moscow.
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Now he looked like a Beatle.
But that was okay.
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Be it
the original series or today,
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actors need gigs,
andStar Trek had plenty.
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As an agent,
I thought that Star Trek
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was a great starting point
for a lot of people,
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and often, it would be
their first television job.
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I always thought
that I would come to LA,
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and be on a great cop show
like NYPD Blue.
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But then,
I started booking Star Trek. That was my first gig.
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The same
was true for Sarah Silverman.
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You know, I was
taking it really seriously,
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and I took a...
I went to an acting coach.
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Go back down the hall,
take a left at Mars, right at Haley's Comet.
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I got to say
really serious lines like...
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What the hell?
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And, "Say hello
to Saturn for me."
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Not just the shows,
movies too.
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Star Trek wasmy first job
as an actor.
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- What?
- It was the most integral part of my career because it
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not only put my foot
in the door, it shoved me through the door.
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- Thank you, sir.
-It wasStar Trek.
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Once you get in,
you never get out.
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I was so happy to have a job.
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It's a very unstable industry,
and when you get on a show,
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you never know
if it's going to go.
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Star Trek
is a very unique animal
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in that way,
because this is, like,
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the one rare occurrence
where you know
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that if you're signing
a seven-year contract, you're probably going seven years.
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Holy cow. I don't know
if I'm gonna be alive in seven years.
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It's a nice little income
coming in for seven years,
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and that's precisely
what I wanted to do at that time in my career.
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And suddenly,
I'm looking at these houses
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that I've passed every day
for years, and years, and years,
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and going,
"Might get one of those." - Always the optimist.
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Mercedes came down the road,
"Might drive one of those."
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But before
you can live long in a prosperous fashion,
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you need to get cast.
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And the gatekeeper
in theStar Trek universe,
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well, no, it wasn't
Gene Roddenberry, it's this guy.
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I was casting director
on Star Trekfor 15 years,
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throughout most of
the four different TV series and three movies.
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The Next Generation,
Deep Space Nine, Voyager, Enterprise, Generations,
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First Contact
and Insurrection.
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My job was to cast every
speaking role in each episode,
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and every year, there were
4-500 actors cast on the shows.
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But before
you try to calculate just how many faces
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Ron Surma must have
seen over those years, he did cheat a little.
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Once you
kind of get in the door,
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you're in that world,
you're on their radar.
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I've done
more different characters in the Star Trekfranchise
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than any other actor.
In fact, somebody told me
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it was in any
episodic franchise in television.
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So, he may have been
Ron's favorite, but he wasn't exactly his number one.
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Make it so, Number One.
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The first thing I auditioned for
was Riker in that show,
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and they had me in maybe
three times to read for him.
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- Didn't get him.
-Nope. This guy did.
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I'm here.
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Jonathan Frakes'
portrayal of Riker,
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though some said a little stiff
in the beginning...
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And I'm trying
not to smile at him.
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...soon became
a relaxed and beloved member of theNext Generation crew.
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Our lives were changed.
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So, it's no wonder
that getting an audition forStar Trek
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could be the biggest moment
of some actors' careers.
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No pressure.
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Walk in the door,
and there are five or six other guys
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that kind of look
just like you.
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And he's more famous
and a bit better looking.
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As I waited outside,
this minivan pulled up and the doors slid open,
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and out came this leg,
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and in full
Seven of Nine regalia, it was Jeri Ryan.
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And I thought in that moment,
"This is what they want."
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I mean, who am I kidding?
I'm not gonna get this part.
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You would know
in the first minute,
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if they had a chance
of getting the part or not.
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With not long
to impress,
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some actors bend over
backwards for the job.
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At the very
last minute, I decided,
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there was a chair there,
so I got in the chair, I turned around upside down,
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I threw my legs over
and I did the audition upside down.
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So, I went in and I'm doing
the audition like this, you know,
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but with a bit
of an English, you know, accent, you know,
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like, uh, kind of Cockney-ish.
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One of the producers comes over
to me and says to me with a very stern face,
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he goes, there are
no accents in Star Trek.
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You're not from
this province, are you?
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And neither are you.
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And I cranked it up
as far as I could because I thought there's...
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I'm not leaving
anything on the table
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when I walk out of here
because I really wanted it.
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- I really wanted to get it.
-Don't worry. He did.
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- Yes, sir.
-Sometimes, it's a grind.
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So, I had
a couple of auditions,
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...which I think
I came in four times.
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It was another audition
among many.
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You're brought in for,
like, six auditions.
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I auditioned, uh,
seven times over six weeks.
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And now,
you want to try it again?
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You have to make
an immediate impact in the room.
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And sometimes,
you need a little luck.
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I guess so.
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I went in there,
Avery says,
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"You were the only person
that gave me a hug in the audition."
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You know, "You said, 'Dad,'
and you gave me a hug."
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And that was a smart move
as the young Cirroc.
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And then, sometimes,
you just have to wing it.
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I had never seen the series.
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So, I went,
"Hi. I'm Gates," you know.
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"Is there a part you want
me to, um, audition for?"
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And they said, "Well,
there's three women's parts.
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"Just pick whichever one
you want to do."
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And I picked the one
that I thought was the funniest,
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and it was about
the last funny scene I ever saw for the character.
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These aren't the remains
of the ambassador.
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But it's not just
the main characters.
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A big part ofStar Trek
is the supporting cast.
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All that water.
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When I went in to read,
the producers would say, "No, we want him to be meaner."
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I kept telling them
I don't agree.
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It's a shame.
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Uh, I remember thinking
in my mind, "Oh, man,
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"I'm either going to get
this job or I'm never going
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"to work in
this town again."
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Some of the best auditions
you'll get, you'll ever do
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don't go anywhere,
and some of the ones you don't think twice about,
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suddenly, the next thing
you know...
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John Billingsley,
who played Dr. Phlox on the series, Enterprise,
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made an interesting
actor's choice for his audition.
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I punctuated the scenes
with occasional squawks.
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I thought, perhaps, in moments
of rapture, joyous transport,
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he would...
and I auditioned, and they seemed to like it,
235
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and they brought me back
and I squawked,
236
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and they brought me
back again, and I squawked,
237
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and we had the first table read,
and I squawked.
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And all the time,
I'm thinking, "Am I a bird?"
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"I don't know. They're
not making me look like a bird."
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I happened to be there
when he was going to shoot
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his first scene,
which was the scene he'd auditioned with.
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I think he went with...
243
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And you just heard this,
and bear in mind,
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he's done this through
all the auditions that he's had.
245
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And you just heard this, "Cut! Cut!"
246
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"God."
247
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"Are you me?"
248
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Or as John himself
remembers it...
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"John, quit around"
250
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Just so I knew I wasn't a bird.
251
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Of course,
some characters have been more successful
252
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in developing
a trademark sound.
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That is how the Klingon
lures a mate.
254
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When I call my agent
and the producer was saying,
255
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"Look, you know, we want
to see him for the part of a Klingon."
256
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because they were
going to put a Klingon on the bridge.
257
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And I went, "Wow,
what a great idea."
258
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Do not approach me unannounced,
especially when I'm eating.
259
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Worf became
a series regular... -
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...and an integral part
of the Next Generation crew...
261
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- I am a Klingon.
- ...and it worked out so well
262
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that he later became
a series regular on Deep Space Nine as well.
263
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Because when they call you...
264
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...they want you and it
gives you a position of power
265
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that we
don't have as actors 99% of the time,
266
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He's not wrong.
267
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Most of us are lucky
if we just get one big break.
268
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EveryStar Trek actor
has their story...
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I have been a Star Trekfan
as long as I can remember.
270
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...and often with
a personal connection to the show.
271
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When I was growing up,
and my brother and I watched the original,
272
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and it really did
speak to us
273
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because it was dealing
with a lot of great stuff,
274
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and a lot of wonderful actors,
and they took chances.
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One of the main reasons
I loved it is because
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I was in love
with this guy named Bob.
277
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And every week when
the TV show was on, I got to go to Bob's house
278
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and make out with him
on the sofa without his mother objecting
279
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while we were
watching Star Trek.
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I had a history withStar Trek,
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as so many of us did
from television.
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I mean, it was
a part of my life.
283
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And I looked at it,
it sounded like fun. It sounds like a good idea,
284
00:14:04,582 --> 00:14:06,584
and my kids said,
"You better do it."
285
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So, that was that.
286
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Movie star,
Whoopi Goldberg had her reasons, too.
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Before Nichelle Nichols,
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we didn't exist
anywhere in science fiction.
289
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So, I want to carry
that female woman...
290
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Of course,
a female woman, that's crazy.
291
00:14:23,775 --> 00:14:26,256
...uh, carry that
woman thing forward
292
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so some little girl
looks up and sees me
293
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and says, "Oh."
294
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We're on there!
295
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A few molecules off,
and poof,
296
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it's all gone. All of it.
297
00:14:38,660 --> 00:14:42,055
Well, as a matter of fact,
in 1977, in high school,
298
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my friends and I
did a reel-to-real video ofStar Trek.
299
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When the other kids wanted
to play Star Wars, or A-Team, or Knight Rider,
300
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- I was like, "Can we play - Star Trek?
- I want to be Mr. Spock."
301
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Who doesn't?
302
00:14:56,939 --> 00:15:00,856
But there are a lot more
aliens than just Vulcans in theStar Trek universe.
303
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When I got the phone call,
they're like, "Yeah, so they want you to play a Ferengi."
304
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I'm like, "What's a Ferengi?"
305
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Ferengi, as a species,
306
00:15:08,124 --> 00:15:10,953
was started in Next Generation,
and I was fortunate enough to be
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one of the four actors
who played that original,
308
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those original four Ferengi.
309
00:15:16,089 --> 00:15:21,094
We will accuse the humans
of preparing to ambush us. -
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Ah!
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And I had no idea
what a Cardassian was.
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I couldn't, you know...
If you told me it was a form of pastrami sandwich,
313
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I, you know, I would
have said, "Oh, okay, I'm playing pastrami sandwich."
314
00:15:31,408 --> 00:15:34,455
So, how
do you play an alien?
315
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I'm still asking
myself to this day,
316
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how do you play a Vulcan?
317
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This... Is it Burlesque?
Do you go over the top?
318
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I mean, really weird, you know.
319
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Do you do a voice?
Can you be funny?
320
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All they really
had to do was look in a mirror...
321
00:15:49,644 --> 00:15:52,995
I don't have to play alien.
I am an alien.
322
00:15:53,039 --> 00:15:56,825
...because no amount
of acting talent can turn this face
323
00:15:56,868 --> 00:15:58,609
into this one.
324
00:15:58,653 --> 00:16:01,221
Such is the power
of makeup. - Makeup?
325
00:16:01,264 --> 00:16:03,353
-That's right.
- Special effects makeup.
326
00:16:03,397 --> 00:16:07,053
I looked in the mirror,
and I thought, "Oh, my God, this is extraordinary."
327
00:16:07,096 --> 00:16:10,404
And I immediately got
the character and what to do with him.
328
00:16:10,447 --> 00:16:14,669
You know, you're a work
of art. You're made into something.
329
00:16:14,712 --> 00:16:17,846
You don't have to
practically do anything. It's all done.
330
00:16:17,889 --> 00:16:20,718
It kind of makes the character.
331
00:16:20,762 --> 00:16:25,158
You know, you look the way
you imagine yourself to be. It works.
332
00:16:25,201 --> 00:16:28,204
And the man who made
it work is Michael Westmore.
333
00:16:28,248 --> 00:16:32,861
I was the makeup supervisor
and designer on Star Trek,
334
00:16:32,904 --> 00:16:35,777
Next Generation,
Deep space Nine,
335
00:16:35,820 --> 00:16:38,823
Voyager, Enterprise,
for the movies.
336
00:16:38,867 --> 00:16:42,784
Anything that Star Trektouched
over the 18 years, I was there.
337
00:16:42,827 --> 00:16:46,483
He was easily a huge part
of the success of our show.
338
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Every week, he had to come up
with something,
339
00:16:49,269 --> 00:16:52,881
some alien race that
nobody had ever seen before,
340
00:16:52,924 --> 00:16:55,971
and create magic,
and that's what he did.
341
00:16:56,015 --> 00:16:59,105
But the real magic
happens when there's a collaboration
342
00:16:59,148 --> 00:17:01,498
between the makeup artists
and the actor.
343
00:17:01,542 --> 00:17:03,935
So I get this
lovely role of Qatai.
344
00:17:03,979 --> 00:17:08,331
Go down to the Westmore habitat
on Paramount,
345
00:17:08,375 --> 00:17:13,728
and on the makeup shelf
were a series of masks, faces and heads.
346
00:17:13,771 --> 00:17:16,818
I look up and I see,
dun, dun, dun,
347
00:17:16,861 --> 00:17:20,909
the lion's face,
slightly damaged.
348
00:17:20,952 --> 00:17:24,608
I went, "I love that."
and he went, "Okay, let's try it."
349
00:17:24,652 --> 00:17:29,309
Tried it and looked
in the mirror, and I began immediately
350
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to resonate with the mask.
351
00:17:31,659 --> 00:17:35,402
I understood
the value of the makeup
352
00:17:35,445 --> 00:17:37,491
through that
four-and-a-half-hour process
353
00:17:37,534 --> 00:17:40,102
because, after
we had finished with it,
354
00:17:40,146 --> 00:17:42,235
I was in that character.
355
00:17:42,278 --> 00:17:45,325
While they're putting it on.
I'd be sitting there looking in the mirror, going,
356
00:17:45,368 --> 00:17:49,633
"Well, why did this character
evolve this way?"
357
00:17:49,677 --> 00:17:51,853
The Cardassians have
this big neck thing,
358
00:17:51,896 --> 00:17:57,293
and I'd look at that and think,
"Man, these guys must have been really uptight
359
00:17:57,337 --> 00:18:00,905
"for some millennia,
and they're finally getting these things in their necks
360
00:18:00,949 --> 00:18:04,996
"just from straining from
how much they hate everybody, you know, for so long."
361
00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,565
But this wasn't
a shortcut to finding your inner alien.
362
00:18:08,609 --> 00:18:11,046
Uh, it was horrifying.
363
00:18:11,090 --> 00:18:15,137
So horrifying, in fact,
that many actors said...
364
00:18:15,181 --> 00:18:17,008
- No.
- I will not do it.
365
00:18:17,052 --> 00:18:21,143
There were oftentimes
where I would get an appointment for a client
366
00:18:21,187 --> 00:18:25,321
and they would refuse to go in
because they knew that it did involve makeup.
367
00:18:25,365 --> 00:18:26,931
It's a lot to get used to.
368
00:18:26,975 --> 00:18:32,676
My call time
in the makeup trailer, was 1:00 a.m.,
369
00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:38,465
and we all assembled on the set
at 7:00 a.m. to begin work.
370
00:18:38,508 --> 00:18:42,469
And if
that isn't tiring enough, there are other problems, too.
371
00:18:42,512 --> 00:18:44,819
So, we had to make
molds of my ears,
372
00:18:45,907 --> 00:18:48,039
and I'm
a little bit claustrophobic.
373
00:18:48,083 --> 00:18:51,739
I just...
There's something about it. I'm very claustrophobic.
374
00:18:51,782 --> 00:18:53,480
If you have
claustrophobia problems,
375
00:18:54,872 --> 00:18:57,092
think twice before taking
a job on Star Trek.
376
00:18:57,136 --> 00:18:59,834
I think I had three calls
377
00:18:59,877 --> 00:19:02,967
prior to shooting, with
prosthetics and with makeup,
378
00:19:03,011 --> 00:19:05,492
and by this time,
I was starting to get a little...
379
00:19:05,535 --> 00:19:07,842
I was starting
to get a little nervous about what I was in for.
380
00:19:07,885 --> 00:19:09,844
Well, perhaps,
with good reason.
381
00:19:09,887 --> 00:19:12,586
The initial, um, mold,
382
00:19:12,629 --> 00:19:15,545
you're completely isolated.
383
00:19:15,589 --> 00:19:17,547
And the only way
you can breathe, the onlyway you can breathe
384
00:19:17,591 --> 00:19:21,160
is through two tiny straws
that are stuck up in your nostrils,
385
00:19:21,203 --> 00:19:23,814
which stick out
of the plaster of Paris.
386
00:19:23,858 --> 00:19:28,123
As it settles,
you can feel it...
387
00:19:28,167 --> 00:19:32,040
constricting your face,
and you can feel that you're
388
00:19:32,083 --> 00:19:34,085
becoming dependent
on these two straws.
389
00:19:34,129 --> 00:19:38,438
And I was like,
and they're putting this stuff on,
390
00:19:38,481 --> 00:19:39,961
and I'm like,
391
00:19:40,004 --> 00:19:42,268
I'm just, like, going crazy,
392
00:19:42,311 --> 00:19:44,531
and one guy
is standing next to me,
393
00:19:44,574 --> 00:19:47,273
holding me, you know,
saying, "It's okay, it's okay."
394
00:19:47,316 --> 00:19:52,669
I still find gold
in my, you know, various pores.
395
00:19:52,713 --> 00:19:56,456
Even the great Vulcan
himself raised an eyebrow
396
00:19:56,499 --> 00:19:57,979
when it came
to make up.
397
00:19:58,022 --> 00:20:00,416
The process,
the makeup process did not get easier.
398
00:20:00,460 --> 00:20:02,853
It became
more difficult, actually.
399
00:20:02,897 --> 00:20:06,161
Not only the ears,
the eyebrows were very complicated, too,
400
00:20:06,205 --> 00:20:09,120
because I shaved the outer half
of my own eyebrows,
401
00:20:09,164 --> 00:20:12,428
and Freddie put on
hair by hair everyday.
402
00:20:12,472 --> 00:20:15,388
You know, 2:00 in the morning,
I'm tearing my nose off.
403
00:20:15,431 --> 00:20:19,566
But I've got...
I've got marks
404
00:20:19,609 --> 00:20:23,396
from that first year or so,
when I didn't want
405
00:20:23,439 --> 00:20:26,790
to take the 20 minutes.
So, I learned very quickly
406
00:20:26,834 --> 00:20:32,579
to not to,
not quickly enough, to avoid damage to my nose.
407
00:20:32,622 --> 00:20:35,146
And if that wasn't
enough skin off your nose,
408
00:20:35,190 --> 00:20:37,236
there are even
worse things to face.
409
00:20:37,279 --> 00:20:41,718
People who didn't
drink water would seize up,
410
00:20:41,762 --> 00:20:46,157
in the sense that it would
get harder and harder to keep lines in your head
411
00:20:46,201 --> 00:20:48,029
because you were dehydrated.
412
00:20:48,072 --> 00:20:50,771
I remember we
filmed a scene and they said "Okay, that's perfect.
413
00:20:50,814 --> 00:20:53,513
"We're just going to bump in
a little bit closer and we're going to do it again."
414
00:20:53,556 --> 00:20:56,472
And I said, "What are we doing?
415
00:20:56,516 --> 00:20:58,387
"This is the exact
same scene you've got."
416
00:20:58,431 --> 00:21:00,302
And I said, "Oh, you're gonna
have to give me the script."
417
00:21:00,346 --> 00:21:03,479
I had no idea where we were,
what we were doing,
418
00:21:03,523 --> 00:21:05,699
and one
of the associate producers,
419
00:21:05,742 --> 00:21:08,092
I think it was David Livingston,
stepped in and said,
420
00:21:08,136 --> 00:21:10,312
"We've got to get him out of
that suit. We've got to get him out of here. He's unraveling."
421
00:21:10,356 --> 00:21:14,316
So, you're locked into
this rubber mask.
422
00:21:14,360 --> 00:21:17,624
At one point, they say,
"What's going on there? There's something,"
423
00:21:17,667 --> 00:21:21,628
and I have
had a collection of sweat
424
00:21:21,671 --> 00:21:24,935
so bad it's
pooled and pushed the latex out back here.
425
00:21:24,979 --> 00:21:26,850
So, they lance it,
426
00:21:28,548 --> 00:21:33,030
and this just wash of warm water
goes down my back,
427
00:21:33,074 --> 00:21:36,643
and it's just one
of the joys of show business.
428
00:21:36,686 --> 00:21:38,471
These
dedicated actors are either
429
00:21:38,514 --> 00:21:42,126
suffering for their art
or talking out of their... - Butt.
430
00:21:42,170 --> 00:21:44,303
But in
Matt Malloy's case, both are true.
431
00:21:44,346 --> 00:21:48,611
They show me the thing,
this foam thing that they mount on your head.
432
00:21:48,655 --> 00:21:50,961
I said it looks
like a baby's ass
433
00:21:51,005 --> 00:21:56,184
and they said the original
had been a dip of a baby's ass.
434
00:22:03,147 --> 00:22:06,237
I mean, it really
did look like a butt, you know?
435
00:22:06,281 --> 00:22:08,196
I mean a talking butt,
436
00:22:08,239 --> 00:22:12,374
and doing scenes,
I'm thinking, how can I take this seriously?
437
00:22:12,418 --> 00:22:15,421
But, yet, it was
absolutely compelling.
438
00:22:15,464 --> 00:22:17,118
They were
very careful about that
439
00:22:17,161 --> 00:22:19,599
to let me know
what it was going to look like. Looked good.
440
00:22:19,642 --> 00:22:23,385
By the way,
they showed me the derivation of it.
441
00:22:23,429 --> 00:22:26,954
It came from insects
and creatures,
442
00:22:26,997 --> 00:22:29,957
live creatures that
they borrowed things from.
443
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,133
I thought that was really smart.
444
00:22:32,176 --> 00:22:38,400
The characters who were alien,
really look like they could have occurred in nature.
445
00:22:38,444 --> 00:22:43,231
But if actors
had a call of nature while in costume, good luck.
446
00:22:43,274 --> 00:22:45,364
Going to the bathroom...
447
00:22:46,234 --> 00:22:48,192
was an issue.
448
00:22:48,236 --> 00:22:52,240
Bathroom breaks
didn't happen unless we got almost completely undressed.
449
00:22:52,283 --> 00:22:54,721
That was the only way
that occurred.
450
00:22:54,764 --> 00:22:58,986
And there were enough of us
that slowed things down. Every once in a while,
451
00:22:59,029 --> 00:23:02,903
we had to kind of take
a good 15, 20 minutes so everybody could get undone,
452
00:23:02,946 --> 00:23:06,297
they could head out,
head back in, get hooked back up again,
453
00:23:06,341 --> 00:23:09,170
and go back to work.
454
00:23:09,213 --> 00:23:11,085
Well, I had a bathroom buddy.
455
00:23:11,128 --> 00:23:14,131
Bathroom buddy, Bathroom buddy.
456
00:23:14,175 --> 00:23:16,438
Please meet Tosk
in the men's room.
457
00:23:16,482 --> 00:23:20,703
And he would be on
his knees in front of me, in front of my crotch,
458
00:23:20,747 --> 00:23:24,577
unhooking my suit
with me in this lizard mask.
459
00:23:24,620 --> 00:23:28,537
For some, all this was, understandably,
460
00:23:28,581 --> 00:23:30,844
- just too much...
- Wash.
461
00:23:30,887 --> 00:23:32,628
...as was the case
for one actor.
462
00:23:32,672 --> 00:23:35,762
At one point, while he
was about to shoot,
463
00:23:35,805 --> 00:23:39,766
and he stood up,
he took his wig off,
464
00:23:39,809 --> 00:23:43,073
he walked out
to the front gate of Paramount,
465
00:23:43,117 --> 00:23:45,467
threw the wig
in the garbage can.
466
00:23:45,511 --> 00:23:50,864
He just left. They found
one of the ears in a trash bin outside the stage.
467
00:23:50,907 --> 00:23:56,130
But, with acting,
you can't walk the walk until you've talked the talk.
468
00:24:00,482 --> 00:24:04,660
Getting into character
on Star Trek isn't always easy.
469
00:24:04,704 --> 00:24:06,488
And if the horrors
of the makeup chair
470
00:24:06,532 --> 00:24:09,317
or the ill-fitting costumes
aren't enough,
471
00:24:09,360 --> 00:24:12,233
wait until you
actually have to speak.
472
00:24:12,276 --> 00:24:14,496
I'm at home
just running it, running it, running it,
473
00:24:14,540 --> 00:24:16,367
just saying it out loud
over, and over, and over again,
474
00:24:16,411 --> 00:24:18,805
while washing dishes, cooking,
doing something like that
475
00:24:18,848 --> 00:24:21,242
just so that, when we finally
get there to shoot it,
476
00:24:21,285 --> 00:24:24,375
that it,
as Shakespeare would say, runs trippingly off the tongue.
477
00:24:24,419 --> 00:24:27,335
It's tough, and you only have
a couple of shots at it,
478
00:24:27,378 --> 00:24:29,468
and you've got long speeches
and what have you.
479
00:24:29,511 --> 00:24:32,253
You have to give the impression
that you're having a good time.
480
00:24:32,296 --> 00:24:34,211
We would receive the episode
that we're...
481
00:24:34,255 --> 00:24:36,997
the new episode
the night before.
482
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:42,045
So, if you had a 6 o'clock call,
that means you were studying your scenes,
483
00:24:42,089 --> 00:24:44,004
maybe into 2, 3 o'clock
in the morning.
484
00:24:44,047 --> 00:24:46,267
Well, we all
had different techniques.
485
00:24:46,310 --> 00:24:49,139
My words, my words,
my words... my lines.
486
00:24:49,183 --> 00:24:51,490
I didn't really need
to read the whole script,
487
00:24:51,533 --> 00:24:56,059
and I knew exactly
what Reed was doing in his said scenes.
488
00:24:56,103 --> 00:24:59,541
- I didn't read 'em.
- No, I didn't. I read them. I actually did read them.
489
00:24:59,585 --> 00:25:02,196
And then, sometimes,
you'd show up, and the scene that you were working on
490
00:25:02,239 --> 00:25:04,981
that same night
had been rewritten.
491
00:25:05,025 --> 00:25:09,029
And we're not talking
your average run-of-the-mill dialogue rewrites.
492
00:25:09,072 --> 00:25:12,554
Not everyone is fluent
in the language ofStar Trek.
493
00:25:12,598 --> 00:25:15,949
Star Trekseemed to have
consistently called for theater actors,
494
00:25:15,992 --> 00:25:17,733
Shakespearean actors
in particular
495
00:25:17,777 --> 00:25:21,302
because the language
is not comfortable
496
00:25:21,345 --> 00:25:23,347
and had to be
kind of highfalutin
497
00:25:23,391 --> 00:25:26,394
and stand a little straighter
and all that sort of stuff in order to do it,
498
00:25:26,437 --> 00:25:28,744
and they had to do with
having a theater background.
499
00:25:28,788 --> 00:25:33,793
You have some
really good actors who were doing things like Star Trek.
500
00:25:33,836 --> 00:25:35,882
if there are
any like Star Trek.
501
00:25:35,925 --> 00:25:37,492
Yeah, because we're
used to language.
502
00:25:37,536 --> 00:25:41,017
However, unlike
the Bard's rich prose,
503
00:25:41,061 --> 00:25:45,239
the words ofTrek are
sometimes a little less meaningful.
504
00:25:45,282 --> 00:25:47,633
They were
just gobbledygook to me.
505
00:25:47,676 --> 00:25:51,201
I want you to install a bypass
between the main phaser array and the secondary generators.
506
00:25:51,245 --> 00:25:54,857
I also want to run
the main deflector pathway through the warp power grid,
507
00:25:54,901 --> 00:25:57,381
and the auxiliary conduits
through the lateral relays.
508
00:25:57,425 --> 00:26:00,733
In some ways,
it's almost like verse in that there is
509
00:26:00,776 --> 00:26:05,389
a lot of, yes,
technical, what, uh...
510
00:26:05,433 --> 00:26:07,174
Technobabble.
511
00:26:07,217 --> 00:26:10,656
Vent a couple of LN2
exhaust conduits along the dorsal emitters.
512
00:26:10,699 --> 00:26:12,048
I could not get it
on the day.
513
00:26:12,092 --> 00:26:13,833
Make it look like
we're in serious trouble.
514
00:26:13,876 --> 00:26:15,791
It's the only line
that I remember.
515
00:26:15,835 --> 00:26:18,881
Vent a couple of LN2
exhaust conduits along the dorsal emitters.
516
00:26:18,925 --> 00:26:20,143
Understood.
517
00:26:20,187 --> 00:26:21,754
And I've got
to say something about the...
518
00:26:21,797 --> 00:26:26,062
I don't know,
the... cumulus
519
00:26:26,106 --> 00:26:29,152
- or the... whatever the hell.
- It's all that static discharge and gas.
520
00:26:29,196 --> 00:26:31,111
I kept screwing up my lines.
521
00:26:31,154 --> 00:26:34,114
- May I speak, sir?
- I was doing this elevator scene.
522
00:26:34,157 --> 00:26:36,986
I remember I had an opportunity
where I could look different.
523
00:26:37,030 --> 00:26:39,119
Well,
not that different.
524
00:26:39,162 --> 00:26:41,643
I don't think it was a robe.
I think it was a top...
525
00:26:41,687 --> 00:26:45,429
-Of course.
- ...and I was on my way somewhere as a civilian.
526
00:26:45,473 --> 00:26:48,694
And I had some idea in my mind,
which I have with every script.
527
00:26:48,737 --> 00:26:50,304
I don't know why
I've always done this,
528
00:26:50,347 --> 00:26:52,785
like, "I'm probably
gonna need to flirt with Shatner,"
529
00:26:52,828 --> 00:26:54,961
You know, with Kirk, a little.
530
00:26:55,004 --> 00:26:59,182
I wanted to wear my hair down
because I was waiting for my moment
531
00:26:59,226 --> 00:27:04,318
to be glamorous.
But every time I'd walk out of the elevator,
532
00:27:04,361 --> 00:27:08,583
right before it would open,
Bill would go like, "Line, line, line, line, line."
533
00:27:08,627 --> 00:27:13,370
Now, I'm going to go...
I'm like deer in headlights.
534
00:27:13,414 --> 00:27:15,982
- You're bothered.
- And I was ready to cry.
535
00:27:16,025 --> 00:27:18,027
And I kept coming out,
and I kept blowing the line.
536
00:27:18,071 --> 00:27:20,769
And then he'd go. "You...
All right, now, this time, you're gonna do it.
537
00:27:20,813 --> 00:27:22,205
"Line, line, line, line."
538
00:27:22,249 --> 00:27:23,729
Oh, I wanted to kill him.
539
00:27:23,772 --> 00:27:25,513
It's a test of character.
540
00:27:25,556 --> 00:27:27,210
And then Nick took me aside,
and he goes, "If you get it, good.
541
00:27:27,254 --> 00:27:29,560
"If you don't, you don't."
Of course, I got it.
542
00:27:29,604 --> 00:27:31,127
Who's been holding up
the damn elevator?
543
00:27:31,171 --> 00:27:33,216
I think it was Garrett Wang
that told me,
544
00:27:33,260 --> 00:27:34,914
He said, "Oh, just be glad
your character's not in engineering
545
00:27:34,957 --> 00:27:36,567
"'cause they get hammered
with the technobabble."
546
00:27:36,611 --> 00:27:37,917
Can I help you?
547
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,441
Uh, unless you can reroute
the plasma regulator
548
00:27:40,484 --> 00:27:44,271
to silo off the relay junction,
then, uh, no.
549
00:27:44,314 --> 00:27:46,099
And then, the very next script
that came out,
550
00:27:46,142 --> 00:27:48,754
I'm asking Chakotay
for an assignment in engineering.
551
00:27:48,797 --> 00:27:51,017
I was like, "Oh, God!
Here we go."
552
00:27:51,060 --> 00:27:52,758
It was one of
the banes of my existence,
553
00:27:52,801 --> 00:27:55,761
was writing some
of the technology and the tech talk of the show.
554
00:27:55,804 --> 00:27:57,763
"A tetryon beam
is approaching, Captain.
555
00:27:57,806 --> 00:28:01,810
"We'll have to infuse it
with a class 4," uh, whatever, you know.
556
00:28:01,854 --> 00:28:04,204
There were just
too many arguments in the writer's room,
557
00:28:04,247 --> 00:28:07,381
yelling at each other about
what warp drive could and could not do.
558
00:28:07,424 --> 00:28:11,037
-But if you thought...
- It's based on an FTL nano-processor
559
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:15,519
with25 bilateral kelilactiral
with 20 of those being slaved
560
00:28:15,563 --> 00:28:17,913
into the primary
Heisenfram terminal.
561
00:28:17,957 --> 00:28:20,220
Now you do know what
a bilateral kelilactiral is.
562
00:28:20,263 --> 00:28:22,091
...would be
hard to memorize...
563
00:28:22,135 --> 00:28:25,355
And, of course,
you have to learn Klingon. And so,
564
00:28:29,838 --> 00:28:31,535
It's written out,
and then, they have
565
00:28:31,579 --> 00:28:34,321
the phonetic pronunciations
underneath it as well.
566
00:28:34,364 --> 00:28:39,456
So, fortunately, that
grad school phonetics class came in handy quite a bit.
567
00:28:43,156 --> 00:28:49,118
It was incredible. They made up
this entire language that worked.
568
00:28:49,162 --> 00:28:51,860
I had one word
and it seemed to be very important.
569
00:28:51,904 --> 00:28:53,906
And it was...
570
00:28:53,949 --> 00:28:56,517
...which, I think, means
"Let's get the hell out of here"
571
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:57,866
or something like that.
572
00:28:57,910 --> 00:29:02,305
Somebody sent me
a hard bound edition of Hamlet
573
00:29:02,349 --> 00:29:06,179
that had been
translated into Klingon, which was astonishing.
574
00:29:06,222 --> 00:29:10,618
You know, just the idea
of translatingHamlet into French makes my head explode.
575
00:29:10,661 --> 00:29:12,620
So, It's one
of my prized possessions.
576
00:29:12,663 --> 00:29:14,883
It's just...
It's really, really something.
577
00:29:14,927 --> 00:29:18,017
I had to sing
a song in Klingon, Klingonese.
578
00:29:23,544 --> 00:29:25,807
I cannot remember it.
So, don't ask me.
579
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:51,441
Awesome.
580
00:29:53,574 --> 00:29:54,793
Let's go kick some ass.
581
00:29:57,839 --> 00:30:01,321
No matter
the alien race, from Andorian to Xindi,
582
00:30:01,364 --> 00:30:06,195
allStar Trek actors
must master the script, whatever the language.
583
00:30:06,239 --> 00:30:09,938
You got to know
every line, verbatim.
584
00:30:09,982 --> 00:30:13,072
They don't want you
to change an "and" or an "or" or a...
585
00:30:14,290 --> 00:30:16,205
You've got to know it cold.
586
00:30:16,249 --> 00:30:19,426
You're in pain, Seven.
I can help you.
587
00:30:19,469 --> 00:30:21,994
But surely there was
a little improvisation?
588
00:30:22,037 --> 00:30:24,387
No, no, no, no.
You can't improvise with the text.
589
00:30:24,431 --> 00:30:28,217
You don't paraphrase
on Star Trek.
590
00:30:28,261 --> 00:30:29,915
I ad-libbed.
591
00:30:29,958 --> 00:30:31,481
- No, I'm kidding.
-Yeah.
592
00:30:31,525 --> 00:30:33,179
Say the wrong thing, Torg.
593
00:30:35,398 --> 00:30:38,749
It seemed that
the real overlords of theStar Trek universe
594
00:30:38,793 --> 00:30:41,230
weren't the Klingons...
595
00:30:41,274 --> 00:30:44,668
-...the Borg, or Q.
- Moi?
596
00:30:44,712 --> 00:30:46,453
Well, is he
really a baddie?
597
00:30:46,496 --> 00:30:47,758
Did you ever watch the show?
598
00:30:47,802 --> 00:30:50,326
At our first meeting,
you seized my vessel.
599
00:30:50,370 --> 00:30:52,502
you condemned all humans
as savages.
600
00:30:52,546 --> 00:30:55,505
Good point.
It's the writers.
601
00:30:55,549 --> 00:30:58,944
Basically, it's, "This is
how it's written. This is what we want. Deliver it."
602
00:30:58,987 --> 00:31:02,556
Star Trekis the only show
I have ever worked on where...
603
00:31:04,036 --> 00:31:09,041
if you used
a synonym for a word,
604
00:31:09,084 --> 00:31:12,914
they would cut, the script
guy would come over and say,
605
00:31:12,958 --> 00:31:18,920
"You said 'Cat'
and the line is 'Kitty.'"
606
00:31:18,964 --> 00:31:23,490
Some actors
had absolutely no issue with the writers whatsoever.
607
00:31:23,533 --> 00:31:26,580
Probably, the most vivid thing
I remember about the whole thing
608
00:31:26,623 --> 00:31:30,062
is that the first day
I was on the set for a half hour
609
00:31:30,105 --> 00:31:33,369
and I was in bed
with Deanna Troi,
610
00:31:33,413 --> 00:31:35,676
I rather like that
I'm more difficult to read.
611
00:31:36,329 --> 00:31:38,113
than your other men.
612
00:31:38,157 --> 00:31:41,595
I don't know
who put that together, but it worked for me.
613
00:31:41,638 --> 00:31:43,989
Some things
worked well again and again,
614
00:31:44,032 --> 00:31:46,034
and that wasn't
lost on the crew,
615
00:31:46,078 --> 00:31:50,256
who'd spent years
sitting uncomfortably... - In dark corners,
616
00:31:50,299 --> 00:31:52,693
you know, on hard,
wooden apple boxes.
617
00:31:52,736 --> 00:31:56,697
And be it the set
ofEnterprise, Voyager or the original series,
618
00:31:56,740 --> 00:32:01,136
it's the crew who most noticed
the writers repeat themselves.
619
00:32:01,180 --> 00:32:04,009
So, yeah, every character
gets killed, and then, they bring them back.
620
00:32:05,924 --> 00:32:06,925
He's brain-dead.
621
00:32:08,143 --> 00:32:09,579
Commander...
622
00:32:09,623 --> 00:32:11,886
I said, "Really?
I didn't know that.
623
00:32:11,930 --> 00:32:13,583
"What else can you tell me?"
624
00:32:13,627 --> 00:32:15,716
Uh, what you're gonna do is,
I'm sure you're going to do
625
00:32:15,759 --> 00:32:18,719
an episode where you age a lot,
and then, they bring you back.
626
00:32:18,762 --> 00:32:21,852
Commander Chakotay is suffering bone decalcification,
627
00:32:21,896 --> 00:32:26,509
tissue necrosis,
decreased visual acuity, all classic signs of aging.
628
00:32:26,553 --> 00:32:30,905
And there'll probably be
an episode where you fall in love with an alien.
629
00:32:34,387 --> 00:32:35,997
-Despite the...
- Apple boxes.
630
00:32:36,041 --> 00:32:38,173
...the crew were
also quite comfortable
631
00:32:38,217 --> 00:32:42,264
in letting an actor know
when the writers had put the writing on the wall.
632
00:32:42,308 --> 00:32:45,615
"So sorry to hear about
what's happening to your character."
633
00:32:45,659 --> 00:32:47,443
I said, "Why? What's happening
to my character?"
634
00:32:47,487 --> 00:32:50,751
And he said, "Oh, maybe,
I better not tell you."
635
00:32:50,794 --> 00:32:53,014
and I ran into Ron,
I said, "Ron, do I die?"
636
00:32:53,058 --> 00:32:54,668
Yes.
637
00:32:54,711 --> 00:32:58,367
And he says, "Oh, I just didn't
have the heart to tell you.
638
00:32:58,411 --> 00:33:02,197
"Who told you that?
It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter."
639
00:33:02,241 --> 00:33:03,894
And if
your character does die,
640
00:33:03,938 --> 00:33:06,419
think twice about
taking a memento home
641
00:33:06,462 --> 00:33:09,639
because, as they say,
"You can't take it with you."
642
00:33:09,683 --> 00:33:13,208
You cannot take
anything off the set.
643
00:33:13,252 --> 00:33:15,645
You would be in major trouble.
Any of their brand,
644
00:33:15,689 --> 00:33:18,039
any of the Star Trekbrand,
they protected.
645
00:33:18,083 --> 00:33:21,521
They had a checklist.
They came back for your wardrobe.
646
00:33:21,564 --> 00:33:24,045
Well, a few things
slipped through.
647
00:33:24,089 --> 00:33:27,092
There they are. Look at those.
Look at those dusty old pair of boots.
648
00:33:27,135 --> 00:33:31,183
With props and costumes
going for thousands on the collector market,
649
00:33:31,226 --> 00:33:34,577
I did keep
one other thing. But then, I sold it.
650
00:33:34,621 --> 00:33:38,451
I had a friend
that got a good hunk of the console years ago,
651
00:33:38,494 --> 00:33:41,410
and he... I think
he got about 40 grand for it.
652
00:33:41,454 --> 00:33:45,240
The producers had to
crack down on the bit parts taking bits.
653
00:33:45,284 --> 00:33:49,288
When I was doing these things,
I never thought of asking to take anything.
654
00:33:49,331 --> 00:33:50,941
Well, Mark Rolston did.
655
00:33:50,985 --> 00:33:55,555
So, I asked, and got
the most resounding, like,
656
00:33:55,598 --> 00:33:57,339
"Don't you dare."
657
00:33:57,383 --> 00:34:00,647
-Richard Herd dared.
- Very difficult learning how to
658
00:34:00,690 --> 00:34:04,303
chat away
with the Klingon teeth, which I saved.
659
00:34:04,346 --> 00:34:06,696
And sometimes,
I chased my wife, Patricia,
660
00:34:06,740 --> 00:34:08,959
around the bedroom
with my Klingon teeth.
661
00:34:11,005 --> 00:34:13,138
And
Scott MacDonald dared.
662
00:34:13,181 --> 00:34:14,356
This is...
663
00:34:15,401 --> 00:34:17,316
a prop...
664
00:34:17,359 --> 00:34:20,362
from the set of Enterprise
665
00:34:20,406 --> 00:34:22,582
when I played Commander Dolim.
666
00:34:22,625 --> 00:34:26,325
There was a scene
where the Xindi reptiles
667
00:34:26,368 --> 00:34:29,502
we're eating mice
as they discussed their plans
668
00:34:29,545 --> 00:34:30,938
to take over the universe.
669
00:34:30,981 --> 00:34:33,027
And the piece de resistance...
670
00:34:33,984 --> 00:34:35,073
This is...
671
00:34:36,161 --> 00:34:38,902
an unbelievable thing to have.
672
00:34:38,946 --> 00:34:41,905
I don't know that
very many actors have these.
673
00:34:41,949 --> 00:34:44,952
But while some requests
were thoroughly denied...
674
00:34:44,995 --> 00:34:46,606
"Don't you dare."
675
00:34:46,649 --> 00:34:49,087
...the biggest props
go to showrunner, Brannon Braga,
676
00:34:49,130 --> 00:34:51,001
- who was dating...
- ...bored babe.
677
00:34:51,045 --> 00:34:53,917
That be
this bored babe. - Bored. Let's do something fun.
678
00:34:53,961 --> 00:34:58,444
And thusly,
Jeri Ryan had her dreams of taking part of the set home...
679
00:34:58,487 --> 00:34:59,706
- Sweet dreams.
- ...fulfilled.
680
00:34:59,749 --> 00:35:01,621
Yeah, I have my alcove.
681
00:35:01,664 --> 00:35:03,927
I figured, you know, four years
of that makeup and that costume,
682
00:35:03,971 --> 00:35:06,278
the least I can do is
get my alcove to bring home.
683
00:35:06,321 --> 00:35:09,933
Uh...
684
00:35:09,977 --> 00:35:11,935
How hard was it
to get the alcove? - INTERVIEWER: Yeah.
685
00:35:11,979 --> 00:35:14,068
Uh, to my recollection,
not at all.
686
00:35:14,112 --> 00:35:17,898
I was, you know, dating
Brannon Braga. So, we had a little extra pull, probably.
687
00:35:17,941 --> 00:35:20,074
He'd need
all the pull he could get.
688
00:35:20,118 --> 00:35:23,730
It was hard to deliver
because it's such a huge thing. -
689
00:35:26,385 --> 00:35:28,735
Be it hours
in the makeup chair,
690
00:35:28,778 --> 00:35:30,737
finding ways
to nick props from the set,
691
00:35:30,780 --> 00:35:34,393
or lifting
heavy set pieces into your girlfriend's apartment,
692
00:35:34,436 --> 00:35:39,528
only a few actors
have attained the one role that steals the show.
693
00:35:43,837 --> 00:35:45,708
On anyStar Trek show,
694
00:35:45,752 --> 00:35:47,580
It's important to know
who's at the helm.
695
00:35:47,623 --> 00:35:48,885
Take us in.
696
00:35:48,929 --> 00:35:51,758
We had fine directors,
and we had directors,
697
00:35:51,801 --> 00:35:56,110
really, really
well-known directors in television
698
00:35:56,154 --> 00:35:58,504
seeking to do Star Trek.
699
00:35:58,547 --> 00:36:02,595
And, you know, all actors,
here's what they want to know about the director.
700
00:36:03,857 --> 00:36:05,163
Is he crazy?
701
00:36:05,685 --> 00:36:06,686
How crazy?
702
00:36:07,861 --> 00:36:09,863
Am I going to live?
703
00:36:09,906 --> 00:36:13,214
Armin Shimerman,
appearing as one of the first ever Ferengi,
704
00:36:13,258 --> 00:36:15,390
If it moves, kill it.
705
00:36:15,434 --> 00:36:17,871
Sounds like
he had a crazy one.
706
00:36:17,914 --> 00:36:23,006
The director, uh, was giving us
all sorts of bizarre directions.
707
00:36:26,358 --> 00:36:28,098
I got this one!
708
00:36:28,142 --> 00:36:32,146
And, in fact,
my first four years as Quark
709
00:36:32,190 --> 00:36:36,542
was to try and eradicate
the mistakes I made as Letek.
710
00:36:36,585 --> 00:36:39,632
Because I'm a people-person.
711
00:36:39,675 --> 00:36:43,592
But, perhaps,
trying to avoid having a crazy director,
712
00:36:43,636 --> 00:36:47,727
many of the actors themselves
stepped behind the lens,
713
00:36:47,770 --> 00:36:51,296
and the tradition
ofStar Trek actors becoming directors
714
00:36:51,339 --> 00:36:54,603
extends
all the way back to the great Spock himself.
715
00:36:54,647 --> 00:36:57,040
People would often say to me,
"You should be directing."
716
00:36:59,260 --> 00:37:02,263
The fact is,
I was insulted.
717
00:37:02,307 --> 00:37:04,134
I thought, are
all these people telling me
718
00:37:04,178 --> 00:37:06,659
there's something wrong
with my acting? -
719
00:37:06,702 --> 00:37:08,574
But it
wasn't a bad idea
720
00:37:08,617 --> 00:37:12,926
because, as of the end
ofStar Trek II, Spock was dead,
721
00:37:12,969 --> 00:37:18,671
and Leonard Nimoy
was resurrected as a feature film director.
722
00:37:18,714 --> 00:37:24,416
In all, 15 cast members
directed over 100 episodes and films.
723
00:37:24,459 --> 00:37:27,375
So, I threw my hat in the ring.
Obviously, I had done a bunch of episodes.
724
00:37:27,419 --> 00:37:29,595
By then, I was really into it.
I was really psyched.
725
00:37:29,638 --> 00:37:31,379
They took a chance.
726
00:37:31,423 --> 00:37:34,208
I thought, "Here we go,"
and then, that movie was a huge success.
727
00:37:34,252 --> 00:37:37,167
It made a lot of money
and everybody liked it.
728
00:37:37,211 --> 00:37:42,564
I loved him when
he was my first officer
729
00:37:42,608 --> 00:37:43,957
on the Enterprise.
730
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,350
Take us out of orbit,
Ensign Crusher.
731
00:37:45,393 --> 00:37:47,352
I love him
when he directs me
732
00:37:47,395 --> 00:37:49,658
on Star Trekand on Leverage.
733
00:37:49,702 --> 00:37:54,315
I love him when I call him
because I need advice.
734
00:37:54,359 --> 00:37:57,187
But not all actors
make great directors at first.
735
00:37:57,231 --> 00:37:59,364
My first day
of shooting was a disaster.
736
00:37:59,407 --> 00:38:03,106
We had this huge set,
and the first setup, I think,
737
00:38:03,150 --> 00:38:05,239
was, like,
took about eight hours. -
738
00:38:05,283 --> 00:38:07,546
So, the first day,
I immediately fell a day behind.
739
00:38:09,461 --> 00:38:12,159
And Berman and Ira
hated the up episode.
740
00:38:12,202 --> 00:38:14,379
You've never been
right about anything.
741
00:38:14,422 --> 00:38:17,295
Then, they took me in the office
and they made me go through frame by frame by frame
742
00:38:17,338 --> 00:38:20,472
because I was contracted
to direct two more, and Berman said,
743
00:38:20,515 --> 00:38:23,692
"If you weren't under contract,
I just wouldn't let you direct anymore"
744
00:38:23,736 --> 00:38:25,433
essentially.
745
00:38:25,477 --> 00:38:29,176
Now, step aside...
and allow me to finish this sorry business.
746
00:38:29,219 --> 00:38:32,048
It seemed like everybody
had the chance to direct.
747
00:38:32,092 --> 00:38:33,789
Well, Avery directed.
748
00:38:33,833 --> 00:38:36,705
Hmm. I don't know
if I can see him directing this kind of stuff.
749
00:38:36,749 --> 00:38:38,707
I don't care
if the odds are against us.
750
00:38:38,751 --> 00:38:40,318
Well, I was completely wrong.
751
00:38:40,361 --> 00:38:43,843
He was a wonderful director,
such a great actor's director.
752
00:38:43,886 --> 00:38:47,412
All the males were allowed
to direct whoever wanted to.
753
00:38:47,455 --> 00:38:48,848
But as for me...
754
00:38:48,891 --> 00:38:51,894
Did I have to campaign hard
to direct an episode?
755
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,028
What do you think? Yeah.
756
00:38:55,071 --> 00:38:58,292
It took until
my seventh year to get it,
757
00:38:58,336 --> 00:39:02,514
and they gave me this kind of
scary, spooky episode,
758
00:39:02,557 --> 00:39:04,820
which was very
un-Star Trek in a way.
759
00:39:07,997 --> 00:39:10,304
I was so grateful
that I got that script. I really was.
760
00:39:10,348 --> 00:39:12,306
I had so much fun with it.
761
00:39:12,350 --> 00:39:15,135
As one of the first women
to directStar Trek,
762
00:39:15,178 --> 00:39:20,793
I hope that I had some
small role in opening the door to other women directors.
763
00:39:20,836 --> 00:39:25,667
And now, Hanelle Culpepper
is leading the way with theStar Trek: Picard series,
764
00:39:25,711 --> 00:39:31,194
becoming the first
female director to launch a newStar Trek series.
765
00:39:31,238 --> 00:39:36,461
But back
in front of the camera, it wasn't until year 2371
766
00:39:36,504 --> 00:39:39,812
that a woman
was finally put in charge.
767
00:39:39,855 --> 00:39:42,380
Well, Voyager
had had a female captain.
768
00:39:42,423 --> 00:39:44,599
What can I do for you?
769
00:39:44,643 --> 00:39:47,950
And with Kate Mulgrew
commanding the ship, Voyager was on course
770
00:39:47,994 --> 00:39:49,952
for seven more years
ofStar Trek.
771
00:39:49,996 --> 00:39:52,868
But audiences were
hardly bowled over in the beginning.
772
00:39:52,912 --> 00:39:55,218
The ratings kept
going lower and lower, and I think,
773
00:39:55,262 --> 00:39:58,831
if you talk to the fans,
they would blame it on the writing.
774
00:39:58,874 --> 00:40:02,051
So, those writers
wrote in a new character.
775
00:40:02,095 --> 00:40:05,446
People saying
it's a blatant attempt to up the ratings... Well, yeah.
776
00:40:05,490 --> 00:40:06,839
That's why they
added the new character.
777
00:40:06,882 --> 00:40:09,624
The ratings were lagging,
the show was tanking.
778
00:40:09,668 --> 00:40:13,759
And, as they say,
all publicity is good publicity.
779
00:40:13,802 --> 00:40:17,763
We took a lot of criticism,
that we were, you know, cheapening the show,
780
00:40:17,806 --> 00:40:20,330
and were turning it
into Baywatchin space.
781
00:40:20,374 --> 00:40:23,943
Like we got
a lot of crap from the Deep Space Ninewriters
782
00:40:23,986 --> 00:40:26,032
who thought we were
kind of selling out
783
00:40:26,075 --> 00:40:29,775
and bringing
a bimbo onto the ship and all, which, frankly, kind of sexist.
784
00:40:29,818 --> 00:40:32,560
And I see the way
your pupils dilate when you look at my body.
785
00:40:32,604 --> 00:40:34,997
Some of the members
of the cast thought
786
00:40:35,041 --> 00:40:38,044
that all the publicity
that this new character
787
00:40:38,087 --> 00:40:42,657
was going to be getting
was sort of due them.
788
00:40:42,701 --> 00:40:44,746
It was a mild shot.
789
00:40:44,790 --> 00:40:47,880
It was a little conflict there,
you know, and usually, when the cameras go off,
790
00:40:47,923 --> 00:40:50,578
there's some banter,
either work-wise
791
00:40:50,622 --> 00:40:54,452
or just to make
things comfortable.
792
00:40:54,495 --> 00:40:57,237
And I looked to one of them,
793
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:01,328
in between the scenes,
and she's staring at the board up here,
794
00:41:01,371 --> 00:41:04,592
and I looked over here
and she's staring up at the board, too.
795
00:41:04,636 --> 00:41:09,728
And I thought, well, I
probably shouldn't interrupt them.
796
00:41:09,771 --> 00:41:15,473
they must be, you know,
just staying in a frame of mind that they need.
797
00:41:15,516 --> 00:41:17,649
I come to find out
they could not stand each other.
798
00:41:17,692 --> 00:41:21,914
You came here hoping
to stop me. You'll fail.
799
00:41:21,957 --> 00:41:24,264
Turn this ship around.
That's an order.
800
00:41:24,307 --> 00:41:27,223
Your orders are irrelevant.
I'm no longer under your command.
801
00:41:27,267 --> 00:41:32,272
Jeri Ryan's character,
Seven of Nine, proved to be a fan favorite,
802
00:41:32,315 --> 00:41:34,927
and ratings did begin
to climb after her arrival.
803
00:41:34,970 --> 00:41:37,190
Take off your clothes.
804
00:41:37,233 --> 00:41:39,888
-However...
- Coming into an existing show midway through is never easy.
805
00:41:39,932 --> 00:41:41,368
It's never gonna be easy.
806
00:41:41,411 --> 00:41:43,805
And when the attention shifts
807
00:41:43,849 --> 00:41:47,417
because there's somebody new
and the publicity machine is going crazy,
808
00:41:47,461 --> 00:41:49,507
and there making this huge push.
809
00:41:49,550 --> 00:41:51,987
That's not going to be easy.
It's just not.
810
00:41:52,031 --> 00:41:55,730
But yeah, it was
a very difficult four years. It was very tense.
811
00:41:55,774 --> 00:41:58,603
It was not... I don't...
Unfortunately, I don't look back.
812
00:41:58,646 --> 00:42:01,562
As many laughs as I had,
and as much as I adored
813
00:42:01,606 --> 00:42:04,652
working with
all of them, I don't...
814
00:42:04,696 --> 00:42:06,524
I can't look back
on that four-year period
815
00:42:06,567 --> 00:42:10,353
with this wonderful,
glowing memory because it was so difficult.
816
00:42:10,397 --> 00:42:13,618
It was so tense and difficult.
So, that's unfortunate.
817
00:42:13,661 --> 00:42:16,621
I'm sorry that
I can't look back on it with better memories.
818
00:42:26,935 --> 00:42:28,241
Set a course...
819
00:42:28,284 --> 00:42:29,808
WhenVoyager's
last episode...
820
00:42:29,851 --> 00:42:31,026
...for home.
821
00:42:31,070 --> 00:42:33,159
...screened
May 23rd, 2001,
822
00:42:33,202 --> 00:42:36,945
the fifth successful series
of theStar Trek franchise was over.
823
00:42:40,470 --> 00:42:42,734
But fans didn't have
to wait long at all...
824
00:42:42,777 --> 00:42:44,692
Enterprise.
825
00:42:44,736 --> 00:42:48,696
...because the promos
were already rolling out for the next one.
826
00:42:48,740 --> 00:42:53,701
Star Trek: Enterprise was
to be the sixth series in the franchise.
827
00:42:53,745 --> 00:42:55,747
- However...
- They kind of flooded the market
828
00:42:55,790 --> 00:42:58,924
with three different
series at the same time.
829
00:42:58,967 --> 00:43:01,622
-Star Trek: Voyager,
-Deep Space Nine.
830
00:43:01,666 --> 00:43:03,972
You know, every time they turn
on the television, there it was.
831
00:43:04,016 --> 00:43:05,844
- Are you sure?
-Damn sure.
832
00:43:05,887 --> 00:43:08,368
I remember
taking the phone call about the show ending
833
00:43:08,411 --> 00:43:14,069
and we were going
to have the big class photo outside the gates of Paramount.
834
00:43:14,113 --> 00:43:17,333
And I'm standing
with Brannon Braga, the chief guy,
835
00:43:17,377 --> 00:43:20,075
and I saw Brannon
turn around,
836
00:43:20,119 --> 00:43:25,254
and he looked at this
hairy looking thing called the Tellarite
837
00:43:25,298 --> 00:43:28,780
standing there with
the sun glancing off his nose,
838
00:43:28,823 --> 00:43:30,912
and we all just looked at it
and he just went,
839
00:43:31,696 --> 00:43:33,785
"Yeah, It's time."
840
00:43:37,092 --> 00:43:40,922
That's funny.
841
00:43:40,966 --> 00:43:44,230
- Oh.
-That's good.
842
00:43:44,273 --> 00:43:47,668
And with that,
for the first time in 18 years,
843
00:43:47,712 --> 00:43:50,671
there would be
no newStar Trek episodes.
844
00:43:50,715 --> 00:43:54,196
So, it's like,
"Okay, let's take a break."
845
00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:58,244
And now, ten years...
ten years later...
846
00:43:58,287 --> 00:44:03,728
It all started again,
and actors once again began looking for work.
847
00:44:03,771 --> 00:44:06,948
When I heard they were
doing a new Star Trek and Star Trek: Discovery,
848
00:44:06,992 --> 00:44:10,691
I just begged my agents,
I just said I would love to meet the producers.
849
00:44:10,735 --> 00:44:13,128
I'd love to see
if there's anything that I might be right for.
850
00:44:13,172 --> 00:44:15,130
I say, bring it on.
851
00:44:15,174 --> 00:44:17,219
And they said,
"How about Harry Mudd?
852
00:44:17,263 --> 00:44:20,092
"It's a couple of episodes,
might recur more."
853
00:44:20,135 --> 00:44:22,964
And I was like, "Yes!"
854
00:44:23,008 --> 00:44:25,924
It was one of those
great actor moments of, like,
855
00:44:25,967 --> 00:44:27,969
"This is delicious."
856
00:44:28,013 --> 00:44:29,928
And I will have my revenge.
857
00:44:31,494 --> 00:44:34,193
Also, I'm going to kill you
as many times as possible.
858
00:44:34,236 --> 00:44:38,110
However, Rainn Wilson
was in an unusual position,
859
00:44:38,153 --> 00:44:40,634
along with some other
newStar Trek actors
860
00:44:40,678 --> 00:44:45,639
in that he was playing
a role that already had a long history with the series.
861
00:44:45,683 --> 00:44:47,728
I don't believe it.
862
00:44:47,772 --> 00:44:53,255
I went back and watched
the original Mudd episodes and saw what he was doing.
863
00:44:53,299 --> 00:44:55,910
Well, you should
refer to me as Mudd, the First.
864
00:44:55,954 --> 00:44:58,739
It was very similar
to playing Dwight on The Office,
865
00:44:58,783 --> 00:45:02,612
where I was inheriting
a role from a previous actor.
866
00:45:02,656 --> 00:45:06,529
So, that's a great place
to be in because you get to steal
867
00:45:06,573 --> 00:45:10,882
what they do really well,
and then, you get to add your own mojo.
868
00:45:10,925 --> 00:45:14,407
In recent years,
mojo is flying everywhere.
869
00:45:14,450 --> 00:45:19,238
JJ Abrams's
threeStar Trek films made big bucks at the box office
870
00:45:19,281 --> 00:45:22,632
by recasting characters
from the original series.
871
00:45:22,676 --> 00:45:25,461
It's not easy
for all those actors to step into those roles.
872
00:45:25,505 --> 00:45:27,376
Not easy.
873
00:45:27,420 --> 00:45:30,031
Treacherous. It's
a treacherous step.
874
00:45:30,075 --> 00:45:32,381
Very flattering to me
that the character
875
00:45:32,425 --> 00:45:35,123
is strong enough
to be carried on by somebody else successfully.
876
00:45:35,167 --> 00:45:37,386
I think it's great,
and he's a very good actor.
877
00:45:37,430 --> 00:45:40,346
Very intelligent actor.
So, I'm very happy about it.
878
00:45:41,477 --> 00:45:44,263
I think she's marvelous.
She told me,
879
00:45:44,306 --> 00:45:46,787
"I was so nervous
when I got this role,"
880
00:45:46,831 --> 00:45:48,789
and I said, "Why?
You're so good."
881
00:45:48,833 --> 00:45:53,925
And she said, "I thought
you would hate me,"
882
00:45:53,968 --> 00:45:58,451
and I said "I do. You're just
too damn good," you know. So...
883
00:45:58,494 --> 00:46:02,020
We even saw
a reprise ofStar Trek's greatest villain...
884
00:46:02,063 --> 00:46:03,978
Khan!
885
00:46:04,022 --> 00:46:08,156
...as we know,
originally played by... - Ricardo Montalban.
886
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:12,595
...both in the '60s and '80s,
but in 2013'sInto Darkness,
887
00:46:12,639 --> 00:46:16,295
- To exploit my savagery.
-Benedict Cumberbatch took on the role.
888
00:46:16,338 --> 00:46:17,992
Shall we begin?
889
00:46:18,036 --> 00:46:20,429
And even though his pecs
were nowhere to be seen,
890
00:46:20,473 --> 00:46:22,954
his acting muscles
were on full display.
891
00:46:22,997 --> 00:46:26,609
My name is Khan.
892
00:46:26,653 --> 00:46:28,524
Here's the
English accent.
893
00:46:28,568 --> 00:46:30,831
They told me
I can't have one. Look at him.
894
00:46:30,875 --> 00:46:33,051
Well, whether
you like it or not,
895
00:46:33,094 --> 00:46:36,576
there is a place
where every Star Trek actor can go
896
00:46:36,619 --> 00:46:40,841
and be praised for their part
in a TV show like no other.
897
00:46:40,885 --> 00:46:45,541
For an actor,
Star Trekis the gift that keeps on giving.
898
00:46:45,585 --> 00:46:49,894
After you've done
your Star Trekepisodes, you can do conventions.
899
00:46:49,937 --> 00:46:52,157
And as unique
as they are,
900
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,116
Star Trek conventions
are not a new thing.
901
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:59,860
We did a convention
almost immediately that the show was over.
902
00:46:59,904 --> 00:47:02,602
And they are still here
in some kind of, well...
903
00:47:02,645 --> 00:47:04,343
What's the word I'm looking for?
904
00:47:04,386 --> 00:47:07,215
I mean, it just generates again,
and again, and again.
905
00:47:07,259 --> 00:47:10,262
The best fans
in the whole world.
906
00:47:10,305 --> 00:47:12,003
Star Trekfans.
907
00:47:12,046 --> 00:47:16,137
AndStar Trek fans
live forStar Trek.
908
00:47:16,181 --> 00:47:21,969
You suddenly realize
how much they give a damn.
909
00:47:22,013 --> 00:47:24,842
But in some cases,
Star Trek actors live
910
00:47:24,885 --> 00:47:27,192
because ofStar Trek fans
and the conventions.
911
00:47:27,235 --> 00:47:32,197
It's still a huge part
of my life, and a big part of that is the fandom,
912
00:47:32,240 --> 00:47:35,983
and going all over the world
doing conventions.
913
00:47:36,027 --> 00:47:39,595
That's a whole new world
that's opened up for me, um,
914
00:47:39,639 --> 00:47:42,294
signing Harry Mudd photos now.
915
00:47:42,337 --> 00:47:46,733
Oh, I have signed so much in this world.
916
00:47:46,776 --> 00:47:50,128
I mean, you know...
And the fact that anybody wants another
917
00:47:50,171 --> 00:47:52,347
of my signatures,
I just can't believe it.
918
00:47:54,262 --> 00:47:56,743
Nobody really recognizes me
unless I do this.
919
00:47:56,786 --> 00:47:59,093
You know, it's almost like...
920
00:47:59,137 --> 00:48:04,838
My situation is always,
people come up to the table and they look at the pictures.
921
00:48:04,882 --> 00:48:06,579
And then they look at me,
922
00:48:06,622 --> 00:48:08,407
and then they
look at the pictures, and then they look at me.
923
00:48:08,450 --> 00:48:11,453
So, I sit there,
kind of dealing and that sort of
924
00:48:11,497 --> 00:48:14,456
uncomfortable stew,
actor ego stuff, I guess. I don't know.
925
00:48:14,500 --> 00:48:16,371
Aw, cheer up, guys.
926
00:48:16,415 --> 00:48:21,420
It was depressing at first,
but they really want to meet you.
927
00:48:21,463 --> 00:48:25,903
and it's, for some of them,
a high point of their life.
928
00:48:25,946 --> 00:48:28,818
It's not difficult
to make somebody's day when you're in this position.
929
00:48:28,862 --> 00:48:31,909
It's really nice, and it's nice
to be able to make somebody smile.
930
00:48:31,952 --> 00:48:34,737
Not everyone's
approach is so altruistic.
931
00:48:34,781 --> 00:48:38,263
I mean, the minute
you walk in that hotel, you're Brad Pitt, mate,
932
00:48:38,306 --> 00:48:40,178
and they all
want a piece of you.
933
00:48:40,221 --> 00:48:43,311
If you're not careful,
you can wind up thinking you're Jesus Christ.
934
00:48:47,359 --> 00:48:49,361
It was,
maybe too enjoyable.
935
00:48:49,404 --> 00:48:52,016
I'm going to have to
remind myself every day...
936
00:48:54,279 --> 00:48:56,629
...that we didn't
come out here to play God.
937
00:48:56,672 --> 00:48:58,936
God, I remember
my first convention.
938
00:48:58,979 --> 00:49:04,854
Pushed open the bathroom door,
and there's two Klingons standing there.
939
00:49:04,898 --> 00:49:09,250
When they saw Malcolm Reed
walking and they were like,
940
00:49:09,294 --> 00:49:14,386
I'm like, "All right, lads."
So, I nip around the corner for a pee
941
00:49:14,429 --> 00:49:19,478
and I can hear them whispering,
presumably about me.
942
00:49:20,653 --> 00:49:22,002
That's obvious, sir.
943
00:49:22,046 --> 00:49:24,396
Because it was in Klingon.
944
00:49:27,790 --> 00:49:31,272
Well, as far
as the perks of the show, um,
945
00:49:31,316 --> 00:49:33,883
some of them,
I won't go into because I'm married now.
946
00:49:33,927 --> 00:49:35,973
No, I'm not
talking about groupies. Um...
947
00:49:37,539 --> 00:49:40,890
Sort of.
I mean, yeah. I won't say they don't exist.
948
00:49:40,934 --> 00:49:44,024
Well, you know,
when I was single, um...
949
00:49:44,068 --> 00:49:49,073
Yes, you could find...
You could have a nice, charming evening.
950
00:49:49,116 --> 00:49:51,336
I can see
the attraction.
951
00:49:51,379 --> 00:49:52,990
Some women find this neck sexy.
952
00:50:01,128 --> 00:50:03,609
For all that
Star Trek brought us,
953
00:50:03,652 --> 00:50:06,873
the laughs, the tears,
the pointy ears,
954
00:50:06,916 --> 00:50:11,138
there's one thing
that all of us lucky enough to have been part of it
955
00:50:11,182 --> 00:50:12,966
are the most proud of.
956
00:50:13,010 --> 00:50:16,230
I was pleased with the fact
that we were dealing with issues
957
00:50:16,274 --> 00:50:20,234
that had
a sociopolitical reference and relevance.
958
00:50:20,278 --> 00:50:24,151
Gene set it all up.
He did it. And this is what we're going to do.
959
00:50:24,195 --> 00:50:26,980
And you've got the script
and you've read the script and you're going,
960
00:50:27,024 --> 00:50:29,591
We'll start to live the way
the Fuhrer meant us to live.
961
00:50:29,635 --> 00:50:31,245
Is he kidding?
962
00:50:31,289 --> 00:50:33,595
They'll never let him
get away with it.
963
00:50:33,639 --> 00:50:37,077
There was an episode where
the guy was black on one side and white on the other. I mean,
964
00:50:37,121 --> 00:50:40,689
you'd have to be
an idiot not to get that.
965
00:50:40,733 --> 00:50:42,952
We were one of the few shows that could approach
966
00:50:42,996 --> 00:50:46,608
the question of the Vietnam War
because nobody else could.
967
00:50:46,652 --> 00:50:48,958
There is nothing good in war
except its ending.
968
00:50:49,002 --> 00:50:51,135
We could call it something else.
969
00:50:51,178 --> 00:50:54,181
and still have it be
about the war.
970
00:50:54,225 --> 00:50:56,531
And nobody ever said
a word to us. - Spock.
971
00:50:56,575 --> 00:50:59,273
There was
so much happening racially and politically in the world.
972
00:50:59,317 --> 00:51:01,058
And then, when you
turn on your TV, and then,
973
00:51:01,101 --> 00:51:04,713
there's this white fellow
and this lovely black woman,
974
00:51:04,757 --> 00:51:05,932
and they have a kiss.
975
00:51:05,975 --> 00:51:07,673
But not just any kiss.
976
00:51:07,716 --> 00:51:11,546
This was the very first
interracial kiss on television.
977
00:51:11,590 --> 00:51:13,070
So, it was a big deal.
978
00:51:13,113 --> 00:51:15,115
It wasn't a big deal to me.
979
00:51:16,508 --> 00:51:17,552
Jesus.
980
00:51:17,596 --> 00:51:19,293
Let's get on with it.
981
00:51:19,337 --> 00:51:21,948
Did Shatner
wanna do it? - Oh, yeah. You kidding?
982
00:51:25,734 --> 00:51:27,867
Genius.
983
00:51:27,910 --> 00:51:32,132
That's what... That's why,
for me, Star Trekhas endured for 55 years
984
00:51:32,176 --> 00:51:36,702
because everybody
got the message that we are the same.
985
00:51:36,745 --> 00:51:43,187
It doesn't matter whether we're
black, white, Hispanic, green, blue, half-black, half-white,
986
00:51:43,230 --> 00:51:44,666
we're all the same.
987
00:51:44,710 --> 00:51:47,321
Gene's vision, he was very clear.
988
00:51:47,365 --> 00:51:50,019
The humans of the 24th century
didn't have
989
00:51:50,063 --> 00:51:55,764
war, disease,
poverty, hunger. Gone.
990
00:51:55,808 --> 00:51:57,984
Religion, too, for that matter.
991
00:51:58,027 --> 00:52:00,029
A secular, enlightened society.
992
00:52:01,205 --> 00:52:03,424
For us, in this country,
993
00:52:03,468 --> 00:52:09,038
it's sort of the idealization
of American values, and, you know, how we see ourselves.
994
00:52:09,082 --> 00:52:13,086
People of color
and people all over the world.
995
00:52:13,130 --> 00:52:16,394
can see themselves
in the future
996
00:52:16,437 --> 00:52:19,875
with important parts
and important jobs in life,
997
00:52:19,919 --> 00:52:24,358
um, and everybody's represented.
998
00:52:24,402 --> 00:52:29,276
It's not just a fun TV show,
and it's not just a good show.
999
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,974
It's just... It's special.
1000
00:52:33,150 --> 00:52:35,717
Gene Roddenberry
was just amazing,
1001
00:52:36,936 --> 00:52:39,373
and I never
forgave him for dying.
1002
00:52:39,939 --> 00:52:41,636
It was like...
1003
00:52:42,681 --> 00:52:45,205
someone you depend on
1004
00:52:45,249 --> 00:52:49,557
to keep bringing the beauty
of the world to be.
1005
00:52:51,385 --> 00:52:52,691
Mmm.
1006
00:52:55,302 --> 00:52:58,958
Well, I really think
that's, in large part,
1007
00:52:59,001 --> 00:53:02,266
what the success
of Star Trek, as a franchise, is.
1008
00:53:02,309 --> 00:53:03,702
Saving the galaxy?
1009
00:53:03,745 --> 00:53:06,139
It's because it's an
optimistic view of the future.
1010
00:53:06,183 --> 00:53:10,448
And I think that's what
people want to grab onto, and I think we need that.
1011
00:53:10,491 --> 00:53:16,845
As long as we, as a species,
have something to learn, Star Trekwill be relevant.
1012
00:53:16,889 --> 00:53:23,243
To have created in this culture
something that is as iconic as this show,
1013
00:53:23,287 --> 00:53:27,160
that lasts as long as this show,
that involves as many people as it has,
1014
00:53:27,204 --> 00:53:31,251
it's quite extraordinary.
So, it's a testament to the adventure
1015
00:53:31,295 --> 00:53:34,298
that Roddenberry
wanted to create.
1016
00:53:34,341 --> 00:53:38,780
Star Trekreflects,
in its various characters,
1017
00:53:38,824 --> 00:53:41,130
different portions
of the human condition.
1018
00:53:41,174 --> 00:53:44,177
And it's the actors
who brought those characters to life
1019
00:53:44,221 --> 00:53:46,397
that we need to thank
most of all.
1020
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,313
You are sort of
part of a legacy.
1021
00:53:49,356 --> 00:53:53,447
And there are legions of people
1022
00:53:53,491 --> 00:53:57,886
that have been on the road
and the journey before you.
1023
00:53:57,930 --> 00:54:01,847
Most people are pretty proud
to be in Star Trek.
1024
00:54:01,890 --> 00:54:05,154
You know, if any other show
in the world that you could have gotten on,
1025
00:54:05,198 --> 00:54:06,982
a pretty cool one
to have gotten on.
1026
00:54:07,026 --> 00:54:11,291
It was awesome, you know,
to be a part of something that is iconic.
1027
00:54:11,335 --> 00:54:15,513
I was a Star Trekfan,
who was in a Star Trekseries as a series regular.
1028
00:54:16,427 --> 00:54:19,386
I had won the lottery.
1029
00:54:19,430 --> 00:54:22,476
Being a part ofStar Trek,
I am not exaggerating here,
1030
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,392
It really did change my life.
It opened up...
1031
00:54:25,436 --> 00:54:29,004
I thought, what was going
to be one episode
1032
00:54:29,048 --> 00:54:31,572
ended up being
literally a life...
1033
00:54:31,616 --> 00:54:34,227
certainly
a career-changing experience.
1034
00:54:34,271 --> 00:54:36,142
I've been so fortunate.
1035
00:54:36,185 --> 00:54:40,146
The whole energy of the show,
the cast, the fans.
1036
00:54:40,189 --> 00:54:42,627
Actually, I should be so lucky.
1037
00:54:42,670 --> 00:54:45,282
That's kind of trite
and sentimental. But whatever.
1038
00:54:45,325 --> 00:54:47,066
- That's good.
-Yeah, that's good.
1039
00:54:47,109 --> 00:54:51,505
And I love
everybody and, you know, I love Dr. Crusher.
1040
00:54:51,549 --> 00:54:56,510
My experience on Star Trekis,
it would be hugely ungrateful of me
1041
00:54:56,554 --> 00:55:00,297
to have any kind
of negative thoughts about it at all.
1042
00:55:00,340 --> 00:55:02,690
It's been a great blessing.
1043
00:55:04,126 --> 00:55:05,563
So, I mean, I got
a picture of me with
1044
00:55:05,606 --> 00:55:07,478
a ray gun,
for God's sake, you know?
1045
00:55:07,521 --> 00:55:10,263
Those years changed my life,
and they continue to,
1046
00:55:10,307 --> 00:55:12,831
you know, define my life
in many ways.
1047
00:55:12,874 --> 00:55:15,703
Seven of Nine
was a gift, as an actor.
1048
00:55:15,747 --> 00:55:20,447
She really was, in every way.
This character was... This gave me a career.
1049
00:55:20,491 --> 00:55:24,582
and you couldn't...
I couldn't have asked for a richer role to play.
1050
00:55:24,625 --> 00:55:30,327
Star Trekis
the most important thing I've done in my career.
1051
00:55:30,370 --> 00:55:35,375
The best best part
of having been part of the Star Trekexperience
1052
00:55:35,419 --> 00:55:37,072
are the people
I've gotten to know.
1053
00:55:37,116 --> 00:55:41,381
It was a gift to be able
to be with those people
1054
00:55:41,425 --> 00:55:45,080
all those hours every day.
We laughed all the time.
1055
00:55:45,124 --> 00:55:49,084
We're still, to a person,
really close friends
1056
00:55:49,128 --> 00:55:52,218
all these years later.
Um, they're family,
1057
00:55:52,261 --> 00:55:58,311
and that was really
the greatest gift of all.
1058
00:55:58,355 --> 00:56:02,097
I'm really proud
that I got to participate in it because, you know,
1059
00:56:02,141 --> 00:56:04,273
you don't get to say that
with a lot of stuff.
1060
00:56:05,318 --> 00:56:07,407
This is one thing
that, you know,
1061
00:56:09,583 --> 00:56:13,413
I always am lit
when I think... No. -
1062
00:56:13,457 --> 00:56:18,200
That didn't sound right.
Hmm. It's always light up.
1063
00:56:18,244 --> 00:56:21,552
To be an actor
in theStar Trek legacy is an honor,
1064
00:56:21,595 --> 00:56:25,338
and as one of the
8,000-and-counting actors
1065
00:56:25,382 --> 00:56:28,210
who've become
part of sci-fi lore,
1066
00:56:28,254 --> 00:56:30,865
there's one truth
that can't be ignored.
1067
00:56:30,909 --> 00:56:34,521
I wonder sometimes, whether playing Quark,
1068
00:56:36,131 --> 00:56:38,525
was it a detraction
from my career?
1069
00:56:38,569 --> 00:56:43,530
Because Star Trek,
although very popular around the world,
1070
00:56:43,574 --> 00:56:46,098
it is not
very popular in Hollywood,
1071
00:56:46,141 --> 00:56:49,275
that it is a lesser franchise.
1072
00:56:49,318 --> 00:56:54,585
in most producers',
studio heads' minds.
1073
00:56:56,021 --> 00:56:59,807
The list of actors or actresses
who have won awards
1074
00:56:59,851 --> 00:57:04,812
like Emmys or Oscars
from working in a science fiction project
1075
00:57:04,856 --> 00:57:08,207
is a very short list,
very short list.
1076
00:57:08,250 --> 00:57:13,168
It is simply not recognized
by members of the Academy
1077
00:57:13,212 --> 00:57:19,087
as a level of work
that calls for honors,
1078
00:57:19,131 --> 00:57:21,481
calls for being
honored that way.
1079
00:57:21,525 --> 00:57:27,922
Technical honors, yes. Wonderful
special effects, wonderful sets, wonderful music and so forth.
1080
00:57:27,966 --> 00:57:31,839
But not for the actors.
Actors who work in science fiction,
1081
00:57:31,883 --> 00:57:35,495
particularly then,
in those years, are seen to be working
1082
00:57:35,539 --> 00:57:38,629
in a kind of a sub-genre.
as something less than wonderful,
1083
00:57:38,672 --> 00:57:43,024
something less
than qualifies for honors.
1084
00:57:43,068 --> 00:57:46,245
And that's why
actors avoided it. I found...
1085
00:57:47,333 --> 00:57:49,074
a level of comfort doing it.
1086
00:57:49,117 --> 00:57:52,817
The great Leonard Nimoy
passed away in 2015...
1087
00:57:52,860 --> 00:57:55,907
I shall simply say, good luck.
1088
00:57:55,950 --> 00:58:00,172
...having won
neither an Emmy nor an Oscar,
1089
00:58:00,215 --> 00:58:05,394
but joining a list
of acting legends who will live forever on our TVs,
1090
00:58:05,438 --> 00:58:09,877
whenever we need them,
knowing they were part
1091
00:58:09,921 --> 00:58:12,576
of the most
wonderful, celebrated,
1092
00:58:12,619 --> 00:58:16,536
long running and important
TV shows ever made.
1093
00:58:17,276 --> 00:58:19,757
You see, I'm an actor.
1094
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:24,109
But for those of us
who loveStar Trek in whichever series or timeline,
1095
00:58:24,152 --> 00:58:30,028
we oweStar Trek's
original actor and all those who came after him a lot.
1096
00:58:30,071 --> 00:58:32,552
What I wanted to do
is make a living as an actor.
1097
00:58:32,596 --> 00:58:35,686
And I probably would have
been happy in a stock company somewhere in Kansas,
1098
00:58:35,729 --> 00:58:40,255
doing plays, week after week,
playing different characters.
1099
00:58:40,299 --> 00:58:47,828
Instead, I was given
a role that took me on a wonderful, wonderful journey.
1100
00:58:47,872 --> 00:58:52,180
From Roddenberry's
vision, to the writers who gave it life,
1101
00:58:52,224 --> 00:58:57,185
to the wizards who brought
this utopian world onto our TV sets.
1102
00:58:57,229 --> 00:59:02,756
The reruns now plays every day.
In a way, I have reached immortality,
1103
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,367
uh, for at least
another 50 years, maybe.
1104
00:59:05,411 --> 00:59:10,764
To the original actors
who showed up on set and made history,
1105
00:59:10,808 --> 00:59:13,114
And we really never knew
what was going to be
1106
00:59:13,158 --> 00:59:15,247
in the future,
whether we had a future.
1107
00:59:15,290 --> 00:59:19,207
But this has been
such a momentous circumstance in my life.
1108
00:59:19,251 --> 00:59:23,516
It was really
profoundly wonderful.
1109
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:25,866
I'm Star Trek
and Star Trekis me.
1110
00:59:28,521 --> 00:59:31,002
Couldn't ask for more.
1111
00:59:31,045 --> 00:59:33,308
I imagine
you wouldn't trade your career for any other.
1112
00:59:33,352 --> 00:59:35,702
No, thank you.
No, thank you.
1113
00:59:35,746 --> 00:59:37,399
I'm a very, very lucky guy.
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