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-I'm so happy to see you.
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-[Billie] When women
come together
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to share their personal stories
of pain, progress,
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and perseverance,
something incredible happens.
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-I've had some really
great experiences,
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and this is going to be
at the top of the list.
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-[Billie] We move from
being isolated to being
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in community with one another.
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-I went through this,
I struggled
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before I became the best
in the world in the heptathlon.
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-That's such
a cool thing to say.
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[ Both laughing ]
-I know!
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-I'm Billie Jean King,
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tennis champion
and equal rights activist.
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[ Cheering ]
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I invited world-class athletes
to team up for a series
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of one-on-one conversations
to share their powerful stories
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of their individual roads
to success.
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-I started at a dust field
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because they told us
that we were not allowed
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to stand on the field because
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it was for the boys.
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-[Billie]
Discussing everything from
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mental health
to equal pay...
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-[Julie] We won that first
World Cup, we won the Olympics.
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We were literally still
making $10 a day.
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-$10 a day?
-Yes.
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-I think the biggest
battles really
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have been with myself.
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-I got outed,
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so I lost all my endorsements
in 24 hours.
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-[Jackie]
Your voice gave others
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the voice, too,
to stand up.
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And I want to say thank you,
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because some of us
don't have the strength.
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-♪ Don't underestimate me ♪
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[ Upbeat music ]
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♪ Oh, right here,
right now... ♪
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-I competed at the Olympics
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with a fractured shin.
-How did you do that?
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-[Jackie] If I talked about
my mental health,
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I was considered weak.
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-These stories must be shared
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from one generation
to the next,
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so we can keep building on
the progress we've made.
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-[Diana] The most amazing thing
has been to see the impact
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it has had all over the world.
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-They put that medal around
your neck, and I realized,
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wow, maybe I really have had
an impact as a woman in sports.
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-My role now is I've
gotta mentor you
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to carry this over
the line eventually.
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You keep running, you sprint.
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[ Upbeat music ]
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"Groundbreakers" was made
possible, in part,
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by The WNET Groups
"Chasing the Dream" initiative,
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the Corporation for
Public Broadcasting,
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and by contributions
to your PBS station
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from viewers like you.
Thank you.
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-I'm Billie Jean King.
In my tennis career,
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I won 39 Major titles,
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and I was the number-one
tennis player
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in the world for six years.
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But I'm most proud of being
a champion of equality.
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Equality isn't only
about the money.
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It's also about the message.
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It's essential that all genders
are treated as equals
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and that we all
have the same amount
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of societal respect,
access and power.
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More than 50 years ago,
the United States
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passed a landmark piece
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of legislation called Title IX.
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It was a major step towards
guaranteeing the equality
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for all that is promised
in the Constitution.
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Title IX changed
everyday life
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for women in the U.S.
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It created educational
opportunities,
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access to employment,
sports, scholarships,
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and activities that had
previously been denied to women.
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It created a path to equality,
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the kind of equality
I definitely didn't have
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access to as a child growing up
without Title IX protections.
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When I was a child,
women were not encouraged
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to play sports
or pursue a career.
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But more than that,
women couldn't even
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get a credit card,
serve on a jury,
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fight sexual harassment,
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or in some cases,
even fight sexual assault.
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Women were treated
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as second-class citizens.
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This one piece of legislation
gave women legal protections
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and made an impact that
has rippled through society,
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improving lives
for over 50 years.
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The fight for equality
is my enduring legacy,
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and I know that sharing
our stories is the only way
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we will continue to build on
one another's successes.
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I invited Jackie Joyner-Kersee,
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Naomi Osaka,
Nancy Lieberman,
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Chloe Kim, Diana Flores,
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Julie Foudy, and Suni Lee
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to team up for a series
of one-on-one conversations.
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From one generation
to the next,
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these women are leaders
who are continuing the fight,
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and their personal experiences
can teach us all
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about the ongoing pursuit
of equality.
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Let me tell you
about Diana Flores.
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I met Diana filming
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the 2023 Super Bowl
commercial for the NFL.
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-♪ Rock with me,
all my girls with me ♪
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♪♪
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-[Billie] At 24 years old,
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Diana is the face
of flag football.
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And with the support of the NFL
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and the International Federation
of American Football,
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Diana is actively campaigning
for flag football
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to be played
at the 2028 Olympics.
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[ Upbeat music ]
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I asked Diana
to meet with me
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because she is doing
for flag football
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what we did for tennis,
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making space for women in
a sport dominated by men.
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[ Upbeat music ]
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-Hi!
-Yay! How are you?
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-I'm good, how are you?
-It's great to see you.
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-I'm so happy to see you.
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-Great to see you.
-[ Chuckles ]
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-A long trip?
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Where are you living?
Are you in Mexico?
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-Yes, I live in Mexico City.
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So I am happy to be...
-Still?
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-To be here with you.
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I am working on
some things
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in Mexico for my sport.
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Um, I'm working with
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the International American
Football Federation, also,
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to keep growing the sport,
not only in the States but...
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-They run the flag
football, right?
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-Yes, with the NFL,
IFF, so it has been...
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-NFL's doing well, I hope?
-Yes, so...
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-They got the power, baby.
-Yes! They are really
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pushing the sport forward,
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so it is a great time for us.
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-That's great, well,
I think what you've done also
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is help, you know, get it
going more forward,
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getting the interest, you know,
they're interested in you,
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then they get interested
in the sport.
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-I've received a lot of
messages from girls saying,
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"Oh, I didn't know I could
play that sport.
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Now I'm gonna try to find
a team nearby my town."
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Other girls saying,
"I used to play flag football,
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but my parents said that
it was a men's sport,
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and now my parents
changed their mind."
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-Because you have to see it
to be it sometimes.
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-You're right.
For me, the biggest thing
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and the most amazing thing
has been to see the impact
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it has had, not only
in women and girls
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from the States, Mexico,
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for all over the world.
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-[Billie] With more than
a half a million participants,
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flag football is one of
the fastest-growing sports
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in the United States --
specifically growing
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its popularity with
girls and young women.
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-[Diana] I started when
I was really young,
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at the age of eight, and...
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-With your dad --
got you, right?
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-Yes, because of my dad.
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My dad used to play
American football
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and he introduced me
to this amazing world.
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He brought me to my first
flag football practice.
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-[Billie] We got very blessed
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to have the parents we have,
I think made the difference.
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My dad played catch with me
when I was three, four, five.
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I wanted him to get me a bat,
and he wouldn't get me a bat.
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He was a firefighter,
we didn't have that much money.
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It was tight all the time.
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And the same thing happened
with my tennis racket.
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He wouldn't buy me
a tennis racket.
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He said, "You want to play?
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Then you find a way
to get your first racket."
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And so I went to
the neighbors --
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thank you, neighbors.
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And they were so sweet to me,
they felt so sorry for me.
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Th-They ma--
They made up these jobs,
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you know, these pseudo jobs.
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-Uh-huh.
-And then I had
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my $8.29 in the Mason jar
up in the cupboard.
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Got an $8-- $8.29 racket.
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I went out to the park,
I'd only been on
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the court twice,
and I knew what I wanted.
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I wanted to be number one
in the world.
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[ Upbeat music ]
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I truly believed that if
I was number one in the world,
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people in power would listen
to my pleas for equality,
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and I could use my voice
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to make the world
a better place for everyone.
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[ Upbeat music ]
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Two-time Olympic
gold medalist
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and two-time World Cup
champion Julie Foudy
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was co-captain
of the legendary
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1990s U.S. soccer team...
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-[Announcer] Up inside the box,
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and the keeper makes
an error there.
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Chastain, missed.
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Header goal!
Foudy, 2-0 U.S...
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[ Crowd cheering ]
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-[Billie] ...making it
a mainstream sport.
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I asked Julie to meet
with Olympian Suni Lee,
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the gymnastics phenom,
who was also the first
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Hmong-American to win
a gold medal at the Olympics.
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[ Upbeat music ]
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-[Julie] Whoa,
look at this place.
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Suni!
-Hi.
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[ Both chuckling ]
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-Hi!
-Hi, how are you?
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-Hi, hi, hi.
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Look at you in
your beautiful green.
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-Thank you, you look great.
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-When you were growing up,
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could you have
pictured yourself
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in a packed gym of, you know,
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15,000 people roaring
for you in college?
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Did you even have that vision?
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-I always just
envisioned myself,
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like, at the Olympics, really.
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Like, in a really
big stadium, like,
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with the spotlight,
like, on the beam.
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-So just watching you guys
do the beam, full disclosure,
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I have a lot of anxiety watching
it, I'm like... [ Mock gasping ]
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-You know, every time people
say they're scared of it,
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I always tell them,
if you can do it on the floor,
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you can do it on the beam.
-Oh, really?
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-You just gotta get past the...
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-Four inches,
and you shouldn't
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be on a beam four inches.
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Why couldn't they've made it,
like, eight inches?
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That would make more sense.
Like, give us a plank--
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-Then it wouldn't be as fun.
-It's still a plank,
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it's like you're
walking the plank.
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It's just a little wider.
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-It wouldn't be as fun.
-Safer?
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No? Ugh, no,
I couldn't do it.
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Suni, I understand you were
the first Hmong-American
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to go to the Olympics?
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-Mm-hmm.
-Is that right?
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-Yes, I was.
-So that means
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you're also the first
Hmong-American to win...
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-To win in the Olympics.
-Yes!
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That's crazy.
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-I know, and like, my parents
have been really supportive too,
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about it, because normally
in, like, our tradition,
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I guess, it's, like,
the girl is, like,
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grown to be, like, this wife,
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and, like, she's very, like,
put together,
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cleans the house, like,
does all of that stuff...
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-No competing in Olympics.
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-No, and it's
incredible to see,
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like, the changes that
have happened since
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I've won the Olympics and...
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-Really, how so?
-Yes.
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I mean, people will
come up to me all the time,
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and they're like,
"Because of you, like,
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my parents have, like, pushed me
to follow my dreams."
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-Aww!
-And I'm like,
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th-that's incredible
to see because...
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-Yeah.
-When I was, like, younger,
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I never really had, like,
any Asian, like, representation,
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like, that I could, like,
look up to, and be like,
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oh, like, I wanna
be like her.
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-Mm-hmm.
-And so for people
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to come up to me and say,
"I want to be like you,
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and my parents are pushing me
to be in sports
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and to follow our dreams,"
like, it's incredible.
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-And it makes a difference.
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-Speaking of changes,
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tell me more about,
like, the fight.
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-Oh, you wanna to go
all the way back to the '90s?
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-Yeah, I do...
-Oh, gosh, Suni,
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you weren't even alive.
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-[ Laughs ]
-Um,
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when we got on
the national team,
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Mia Hamm, you might
have heard of.
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-Mm-hmm.
-Kristine Lilly,
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Brandy Chastain.
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Back then, Mia was 15,
I was 16 years old.
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-Wow.
-So, I know for
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the gymnastics world
that's pretty common
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but not so much for
the soccer world.
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-Oh, really?
-So we were that
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first generation of
soccer players that
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came through that were,
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hey, why aren't we
in a World Cup?
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And there was no women's
World Cup at the time.
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There was no women's soccer
in the Olympics.
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Men had been playing
the World Cup since the '30s,
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and we had to fight to get
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the first ever
Women's World Cup.
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And, fun fact, technically,
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FIFA didn't want to share
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the Men's World Cup name
competition, I guess.
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And so it was called
the M&M Cup.
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-Wow.
-First World Cup
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for women was in 1991.
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-[Billie] In November 1991,
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18 eager young American women
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flew to southern China
to represent the United States
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in the inaugural
Women's World Cup.
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To everyone's surprise,
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the U.S. team kept
winning match after match,
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beating powerhouse
soccer countries
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like Germany,
Sweden, and Norway.
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The Americans started to be
known for their scrappy,
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untraditional approach
to the game.
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And after playing teams
from 12 different countries,
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the United States
emerged victorious,
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winning the World Cup,
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and establishing themselves
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as a force in soccer.
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The world celebrated America's
incredible achievement,
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but it seemed news
of the success
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didn't quite make it home
to America.
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-So after all of that,
like, how did things change?
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-When we got home --
we won it, mind you,
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we got home to the United States
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and we were like, "This is
gonna change everything!
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Everyone's going to be so
excited about women's soccer,
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about soccer in general
in this country,"
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and there were literally
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three people at the airport
to greet us...
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-No!
-And no one knew about it.
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It wasn't on TV, it was
pre social media, of course.
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I was in college,
and I literally
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got back to school,
and the professor was like,
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"Where have you been?
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You've missed this final
and this final."
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I was like, I told you
I was going to this thing
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called the World Cup.
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So, needless to say,
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we did not change soccer
in this country.
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No one knew about it,
then the first ever
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women's soccer in
the Olympics
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actually happened
in Atlanta in 1996.
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-Wow, oh, my gosh.
-Yeah.
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And the '96 Olympics was amazing
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because, one,
you're in the Olympics.
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Two, it's the first time
women's soccer's
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ever been in the Olympics.
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But three, really,
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it was ultra amazing because
you were in your home country,
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and so, literally, wherever
you went, people went nuts.
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Me and my teammates were
on a plane heading to Atlanta,
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and this is how America responds
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when they know you're
the Olympic team.
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The entire plane
literally stood up
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and started singing
the national anthem to us.
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-That's amazing.
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-[Billie]
Nancy Lieberman is a pioneer
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in women's basketball
with a career
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that has spanned
five decades.
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Growing up in Queens, New York,
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Nancy fell in love
with basketball
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while still in high school.
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At only 17,
Lieberman made
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the U.S. women's
basketball team,
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winning a gold medal
at the Pan American Games
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and a silver medal at
the 1976 Olympics.
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She went on to play eight years
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in the Women's Professional
Basketball League.
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-If somebody came up
to me today and said,
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you know, "Are you a good
basketball player?"
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And I'd say, "No,
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I'm a great basketball player."
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-[Billie] Then, at age 38,
Nancy was the oldest player
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drafted into the inaugural
season of the WNBA.
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12 years later,
she broke her own record
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when she signed a seven-day
WNBA contract
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and played for
the Detroit Shock.
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At age 50,
Lieberman coached
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in the WNBA before becoming
the second ever woman
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to join the coaching staff
of a men's professional team,
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the Sacramento Kings.
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-[Nancy] We have a mantra.
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All the teams that I've ever
coached or been around:
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no excuses, no explanations.
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Alright, can you guys
get my good side?
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-[Billie] I asked
Nancy to meet with Chloe Kim,
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a two-time Olympic
gold medalist
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and the first athlete,
male or female,
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to take home all four
major snowboarding titles,
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including the Olympics,
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the World Championships,
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the Youth Olympics,
and the X Games.
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-There you are.
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-Hello, we meet again.
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-We meet again.
Oh, this outfit is giving.
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-How are you?
-Good.
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I'm dying to know
what gave you the confidence
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to do something that's never
really been done before.
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To be the first, I mean,
I feel like I've kind of been
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the first at a couple of things,
but you really paved the way
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for women in sports,
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and you're a pioneer yourself
in so many ways.
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So I'm curious to know.
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-For me to say, I knew I was
a pioneer and I knew --
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I-I had no clue.
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I played sports,
I needed it.
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I needed it because of what
was going on in my house.
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We had no food,
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I had no father,
no electricity.
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We were one grandparent away
from food stamps.
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I was so broken, that I needed
something to occupy my mind.
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00:17:06,533 --> 00:17:09,066
I was mad because people
were demeaning me,
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saying, "What's this little
redheaded little Jewish girl
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doing playing in
the schoolyard?"
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My grandma used to say to me,
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"Walk like a girl.
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Your shoulders back," you know?
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And then the kids on
the court would say,
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"Act like a boy."
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And I was so conflicted,
you know what I mean?
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Like, my shoulders
were rounded.
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I'd walk in,
my grandma would say,
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"Act like a girl. Okay."
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And it's like,
when people tell your mother,
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"What's wrong with
your daughter?
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Maybe you should take her
to a psychologist."
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You're like,
I mean, are you kidding me?
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I'm not robbing people.
427
00:17:42,833 --> 00:17:44,500
I'm not carjacking people.
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I'm not in a gang.
I'm playing sports.
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-I would be really angry, too,
if I were in your position.
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Like, basically being told
to be someone that you're not,
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that's very frustrating.
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-[Nancy] I didn't play
basketball to be an Olympian.
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I didn't play to be
a Hall of Famer
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or a groundbreaker
435
00:18:02,566 --> 00:18:04,800
or whatever the heck
they say that I've done.
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I needed it.
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And all those other things
were a byproduct of hard work
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and grind and opportunity.
439
00:18:13,566 --> 00:18:15,800
-That is interesting that,
you know, for you,
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that Olympic dream that
a lot of athletes pursue,
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that wasn't a goal of yours,
because it wasn't there.
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00:18:23,466 --> 00:18:24,766
But for me, it was there.
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00:18:24,766 --> 00:18:26,766
-On the '76 Olympic team,
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that was the first time
women's basketball
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was ever an Olympic sport.
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00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,400
-Wow.
-I was 14 years old
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00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,333
when I went to my first
U.S. tryout,
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00:18:34,333 --> 00:18:36,433
and I was like...
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00:18:36,433 --> 00:18:39,566
Chloe, I swear to God,
I walked in the gym
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at Queen's College,
and there were 250 girls.
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00:18:42,766 --> 00:18:45,233
I don't think I've ever
told this to anybody.
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I stood in the gym,
and they pinned
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the number on me
and I just went,
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I'm not sick.
455
00:18:50,566 --> 00:18:52,466
There's nothing wrong with me.
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There's 250 other people
here, girls.
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00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,300
-Wow.
-And I couldn't wait
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that night to go home
and tell my mother,
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00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,300
I'm so tired of people
telling me what I'm not.
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00:19:03,300 --> 00:19:04,700
-That's incredible.
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00:19:04,700 --> 00:19:06,966
You have had such
a remarkable career.
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00:19:06,966 --> 00:19:09,866
Like, what does it mean to you
to be the first?
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-It changed everything
for everybody.
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00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:13,966
-Right.
-It had never been done.
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00:19:13,966 --> 00:19:18,233
A high school player had
never made a USA team,
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00:19:18,233 --> 00:19:20,233
much less an Olympic team.
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00:19:20,233 --> 00:19:23,466
I knew I had the pressure,
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00:19:23,466 --> 00:19:27,300
if you will, of being kind
of the face of my sport.
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00:19:27,300 --> 00:19:30,966
You had the pressure of being
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the face of your sport
at, you know, 13, 14, 15.
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00:19:33,966 --> 00:19:36,633
Same thing with myself,
and I remember
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00:19:36,633 --> 00:19:39,700
at the '76 Olympics,
we win the silver.
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You know, you get up
on that podium,
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you've seen it a million times.
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You bend over,
they put that medal
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around your neck, you know,
and you're just --
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you see the American flag,
and all your family.
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And I realized, wow,
maybe I really have had
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an impact as a woman in sports.
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Like, when I look back and even
talk to my teammates now
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is, can you believe
that we were the first?
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-First.
-Thefirst.
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00:20:05,300 --> 00:20:06,733
-Really the first.
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Every story you're telling,
I'm like, wow.
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Inspiration,
inspiration, inspiration.
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-[Billie] Jackie Joyner-Kersee
487
00:20:13,500 --> 00:20:15,466
has been called
the greatest female
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all-around athlete
in history.
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Her hard work and natural talent
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in track & field
earned her
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three golds, one silver,
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and two bronze Olympic medals.
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"Sports Illustrated" even
494
00:20:27,566 --> 00:20:29,300
celebrated her with its cover,
495
00:20:29,300 --> 00:20:31,200
captioned, "Super Woman."
496
00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,833
-I'm not trying to tell you
to be Olympic athletes,
497
00:20:33,833 --> 00:20:37,566
but I'm also not telling you
not to dare to dream.
498
00:20:37,566 --> 00:20:40,500
-[Billie] After 30 years,
Joyner-Kersee still
499
00:20:40,500 --> 00:20:43,800
holds the world record
in the heptathlon,
500
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,833
which she set at
the 1988 Olympics.
501
00:20:46,833 --> 00:20:48,633
-You know, if you
work hard in life,
502
00:20:48,633 --> 00:20:51,500
you know, the impossible,
you know, is possible.
503
00:20:51,500 --> 00:20:54,633
-[Billie] I wanted Jackie
to sit with Naomi Osaka,
504
00:20:54,633 --> 00:20:56,466
the Japanese tennis pro
505
00:20:56,466 --> 00:20:58,633
who has been ranked
number one in the world,
506
00:20:58,633 --> 00:21:00,400
and won four Grand Slams --
507
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,900
two Australian Opens,
and two U.S. Opens.
508
00:21:03,900 --> 00:21:07,533
Naomi has not only become
a global fashion icon,
509
00:21:07,533 --> 00:21:08,866
but she has also been a voice
510
00:21:08,866 --> 00:21:11,866
for justice
and social change.
511
00:21:11,866 --> 00:21:13,533
-How you doing?
-Good.
512
00:21:13,533 --> 00:21:15,533
[ Indistinct muttering ]
513
00:21:15,533 --> 00:21:16,900
-How you feeling?
514
00:21:16,900 --> 00:21:18,366
-I'm feeling good.
-Good.
515
00:21:18,366 --> 00:21:19,933
-How are you feeling?
516
00:21:19,933 --> 00:21:21,766
-Love the sunshine,
I'm out here.
517
00:21:21,766 --> 00:21:23,700
I'm feeling good,
though, you know?
518
00:21:23,700 --> 00:21:25,366
-That's good.
519
00:21:25,366 --> 00:21:26,866
Can I ask you a question?
-Mm-hmm.
520
00:21:26,866 --> 00:21:28,966
-When did you realize
521
00:21:28,966 --> 00:21:31,566
you fell in love
with your sport?
522
00:21:31,566 --> 00:21:33,266
-I started running
at the age of nine.
523
00:21:33,266 --> 00:21:34,533
-Mm-hmm.
-And I wasn't
524
00:21:34,533 --> 00:21:36,033
one of the best girls.
525
00:21:36,033 --> 00:21:37,766
-Were you running, like,
for fun or like...
526
00:21:37,766 --> 00:21:39,433
-For fun.
-Oh, okay.
527
00:21:39,433 --> 00:21:41,366
-And I loved it.
528
00:21:41,366 --> 00:21:44,266
I went to my first track meet,
I finished last,
529
00:21:44,266 --> 00:21:46,033
and I said to myself,
if I can improve
530
00:21:46,033 --> 00:21:48,033
a tenth of a second
if I was running,
531
00:21:48,033 --> 00:21:50,433
a half of an inch
if I was jumping,
532
00:21:50,433 --> 00:21:52,433
that meant the work that
we were doing was paying off.
533
00:21:52,433 --> 00:21:54,033
-Mmm.
-I didn't have a track,
534
00:21:54,033 --> 00:21:55,400
didn't even know what
a track looked like.
535
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,266
Ran in the park.
536
00:21:57,266 --> 00:22:00,600
The coach told us that
one lap around was 400 meters,
537
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,966
and I could never complete
one lap, you know?
538
00:22:03,966 --> 00:22:05,866
And I was like,
wow, I must not be good.
539
00:22:05,866 --> 00:22:08,366
But when I got older,
I realized it was 1,200 meters.
540
00:22:08,366 --> 00:22:10,333
That's why I couldn't
go one lap around.
541
00:22:10,333 --> 00:22:11,766
[ Laughter ]
542
00:22:11,766 --> 00:22:13,433
So -- But the biggest thing
543
00:22:13,433 --> 00:22:15,533
was I enjoyed it,
I had fun.
544
00:22:15,533 --> 00:22:17,466
It didn't matter
where I finished.
545
00:22:17,466 --> 00:22:19,700
And even though, like,
fourth place, fifth place,
546
00:22:19,700 --> 00:22:22,333
we got all these different
color ribbons.
547
00:22:22,333 --> 00:22:25,533
And then I realized
the top three got hardware.
548
00:22:25,533 --> 00:22:26,933
And I was like, well,
I gotta learn how to be
549
00:22:26,933 --> 00:22:28,800
in the top three,
not knowing the top three
550
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,333
would make national teams
and Olympic teams.
551
00:22:31,333 --> 00:22:33,500
And that's how
it started with me.
552
00:22:33,500 --> 00:22:36,366
But the most important thing
that I said I could never lose
553
00:22:36,366 --> 00:22:38,500
was not having fun.
554
00:22:38,500 --> 00:22:40,966
I enjoyed it,
I enjoyed showing up.
555
00:22:40,966 --> 00:22:43,100
Living, you know,
in East St. Louis
556
00:22:43,100 --> 00:22:45,433
in the Midwest of the country,
557
00:22:45,433 --> 00:22:48,433
and it's 102 degrees
out there.
558
00:22:48,433 --> 00:22:49,766
I'm out there every summer.
559
00:22:49,766 --> 00:22:51,100
Like, no, I'm not hot.
560
00:22:51,100 --> 00:22:53,466
[ Laughter ]
561
00:22:53,466 --> 00:22:56,933
-For me, I really love
watching track athletes
562
00:22:56,933 --> 00:23:00,933
because I feel like
you guys are like
563
00:23:00,933 --> 00:23:02,600
an athlete,
you know what I mean?
564
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,500
Like, I just remember
being super young
565
00:23:04,500 --> 00:23:07,700
and watching the Olympics
and the track & field athletes
566
00:23:07,700 --> 00:23:10,700
in the Olympics were, like,
the best event.
567
00:23:10,700 --> 00:23:12,833
So I just loved sitting
in front of the TV
568
00:23:12,833 --> 00:23:14,500
and watching you guys run.
569
00:23:14,500 --> 00:23:16,000
-I mean, there's so many
things we could talk
570
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,700
about in your space, tennis.
571
00:23:18,700 --> 00:23:20,666
When you talk about
the equal pay,
572
00:23:20,666 --> 00:23:23,833
and you all have really
been strong leaders
573
00:23:23,833 --> 00:23:25,933
in making sure
that the prize money
574
00:23:25,933 --> 00:23:29,000
is the same for the women
as it is for the men.
575
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,000
You know, because I know what
576
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,833
Billie Jean has done
has done over the years,
577
00:23:32,833 --> 00:23:35,533
and then the Williams sisters,
and then now.
578
00:23:35,533 --> 00:23:37,733
-You know, knowing
the history behind tennis
579
00:23:37,733 --> 00:23:39,833
and the fight for equal pay,
580
00:23:39,833 --> 00:23:42,533
and just seeing how
it's the forefront of it
581
00:23:42,533 --> 00:23:44,566
and, you know, seeing
Billie Jean King
582
00:23:44,566 --> 00:23:47,700
fight for equal pay,
and the fight is never over.
583
00:23:47,700 --> 00:23:49,866
-No.
-Um, and I've learned
584
00:23:49,866 --> 00:23:51,933
so much about Patsy Mink.
-Yeah.
585
00:23:51,933 --> 00:23:54,866
-And how much
incredible work that she did.
586
00:23:54,866 --> 00:23:57,533
There's a lot of people
fighting fights for us
587
00:23:57,533 --> 00:23:59,166
that we don't even know about.
588
00:23:59,166 --> 00:24:01,100
-In the 1960s,
589
00:24:01,100 --> 00:24:03,666
the Civil Rights Movement
was thriving.
590
00:24:03,666 --> 00:24:06,100
The Civil Rights Act of 1964
591
00:24:06,100 --> 00:24:10,900
and the Voting Rights Act
of 1965 were both passed,
592
00:24:10,900 --> 00:24:12,900
expanding government protections
593
00:24:12,900 --> 00:24:15,500
to citizens of
all backgrounds.
594
00:24:15,500 --> 00:24:19,733
But a few brilliant people knew
that more needed to be done
595
00:24:19,733 --> 00:24:24,100
to specifically advance women
in all areas of society.
596
00:24:24,100 --> 00:24:26,900
Back in 1969,
597
00:24:26,900 --> 00:24:29,733
a part-time teacher at
the University of Maryland
598
00:24:29,733 --> 00:24:32,500
kept applying for
a full-time position,
599
00:24:32,500 --> 00:24:34,733
but was told she wasn't
being hired because
600
00:24:34,733 --> 00:24:38,566
she came on too strong
for a woman.
601
00:24:38,566 --> 00:24:40,733
Motivated by this rejection,
602
00:24:40,733 --> 00:24:42,966
Bernice Sandler
researched her rights
603
00:24:42,966 --> 00:24:44,633
and found what she needed --
604
00:24:44,633 --> 00:24:49,633
a 1967 executive order signed by
President Lyndon Johnson
605
00:24:49,633 --> 00:24:53,166
that barred organizations
with federal contracts
606
00:24:53,166 --> 00:24:57,166
from discriminating on
the basis of sex.
607
00:24:57,166 --> 00:24:59,066
With the order in hand
608
00:24:59,066 --> 00:25:02,133
and the help of the Women's
Equity Action League,
609
00:25:02,133 --> 00:25:04,800
she filed a class action
complaint against
610
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,233
all universities and colleges
in the country.
611
00:25:08,233 --> 00:25:12,033
In 1970,
Sandler shared her experience
612
00:25:12,033 --> 00:25:13,833
with the U.S. House
of Representatives'
613
00:25:13,833 --> 00:25:17,300
Edith Green's subcommittee
on higher education.
614
00:25:17,300 --> 00:25:19,533
In these hearings,
the foundation
615
00:25:19,533 --> 00:25:23,000
of Title IX was set,
and a bill was formed.
616
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,666
In the House, the legislation
was championed by Green
617
00:25:26,666 --> 00:25:30,066
and Congresswoman
Patsy Takemoto Mink,
618
00:25:30,066 --> 00:25:34,200
who worked tirelessly to ensure
passage of Title IX.
619
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,200
Mink knew discrimination
firsthand, as well.
620
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,700
-It's always been
my belief that,
621
00:25:39,700 --> 00:25:43,833
so long as any part
of our society,
622
00:25:43,833 --> 00:25:47,533
uh, adheres to a sexist notion
623
00:25:47,533 --> 00:25:49,800
that men should
do certain things
624
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,966
and women should do
certain things,
625
00:25:51,966 --> 00:25:53,633
then we'll never be rid of
626
00:25:53,633 --> 00:25:56,700
the basic causes of
sex discrimination.
627
00:25:56,700 --> 00:25:59,800
-[Billie] As a child,
Mink dreamed of becoming
628
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,600
a medical doctor.
629
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,300
But after earning
her undergraduate degree
630
00:26:03,300 --> 00:26:05,233
from the University of Hawaii,
631
00:26:05,233 --> 00:26:08,700
she was rejected from
20 medical schools
632
00:26:08,700 --> 00:26:10,700
because of her gender.
633
00:26:10,700 --> 00:26:12,300
Mink pivoted and decided
634
00:26:12,300 --> 00:26:15,200
to pursue a law degree instead.
635
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,100
But even after earning
her degree,
636
00:26:17,100 --> 00:26:19,033
Patsy found it
difficult to get work
637
00:26:19,033 --> 00:26:20,933
in the legal profession
638
00:26:20,933 --> 00:26:22,100
because of her status
639
00:26:22,100 --> 00:26:23,900
as a married woman.
640
00:26:23,900 --> 00:26:26,633
-It's very difficult getting
into -- into school,
641
00:26:26,633 --> 00:26:28,066
and getting into
the professions.
642
00:26:28,066 --> 00:26:29,900
I couldn't find a job,
643
00:26:29,900 --> 00:26:31,366
and when all of
my contemporaries
644
00:26:31,366 --> 00:26:33,366
at home say,
"Oh, my goodness,
645
00:26:33,366 --> 00:26:36,233
what you've done to politics
at home," and, you know,
646
00:26:36,233 --> 00:26:38,366
"I wish we had never heard
of Patsy Mink",
647
00:26:38,366 --> 00:26:41,366
I'll say, well, it's because
of all of your attitudes
648
00:26:41,366 --> 00:26:43,266
that drove me into politics.
649
00:26:43,266 --> 00:26:46,200
If you'd given me a job when
I came home from law school,
650
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,033
I would have been very happy
651
00:26:48,033 --> 00:26:51,033
just drawing a paycheck
each month.
652
00:26:51,033 --> 00:26:54,366
-[Billie] Patsy Mink eventually
found her place in politics,
653
00:26:54,366 --> 00:26:59,033
winning a seat in the House
of Representatives in 1964,
654
00:26:59,033 --> 00:27:02,000
becoming the first woman
of color to serve
655
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,033
in the U.S. Congress,
656
00:27:04,033 --> 00:27:07,966
and a central figure in
the Title IX legislation.
657
00:27:07,966 --> 00:27:10,933
Title IX was formally
introduced in Congress
658
00:27:10,933 --> 00:27:13,933
by Senator Birch Bayh
of Indiana,
659
00:27:13,933 --> 00:27:16,000
and was its chief
Senate sponsor
660
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,933
for congressional debate
661
00:27:17,933 --> 00:27:23,300
when it finally became law
in June of 1972.
662
00:27:26,933 --> 00:27:29,766
It's 37 words.
Within those 37 words,
663
00:27:29,766 --> 00:27:32,800
there's the word "activity."
664
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,100
And I knew Senator Birch Bayh
pretty well,
665
00:27:35,100 --> 00:27:38,033
he's one of my heroes,
he said they kept, like,
666
00:27:38,033 --> 00:27:39,933
"Should we leave it in?
Should we take it out?
667
00:27:39,933 --> 00:27:42,033
Should we leave it in?
What does it pertain to?
668
00:27:42,033 --> 00:27:43,766
We really don't know,
669
00:27:43,766 --> 00:27:45,933
but it'll be
a catch-all, maybe."
670
00:27:45,933 --> 00:27:48,300
Maybe, they weren't sure if
it was even necessary.
671
00:27:48,300 --> 00:27:51,266
-Mm-hmm.
-In 1972, he didn't realize
672
00:27:51,266 --> 00:27:54,000
it was gonna open the floodgates
for women's sports,
673
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,933
but it changed the whole world.
674
00:27:55,933 --> 00:27:59,100
And i-it's the one place,
the one law that really
675
00:27:59,100 --> 00:28:01,000
has been -- made us equal.
676
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,033
-It was an amazing thing
for women...
677
00:28:04,033 --> 00:28:05,833
-Yes.
-Not only in sports,
678
00:28:05,833 --> 00:28:10,033
but for women empowerment for --
to open more opportunities
679
00:28:10,033 --> 00:28:11,566
and possibilities.
-Yes.
680
00:28:11,566 --> 00:28:13,200
-As you said,
we still have a lot to work on.
681
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,066
-You know, I remember when
you and I were talking --
682
00:28:16,066 --> 00:28:17,500
what was the question
I asked, do you remember what
683
00:28:17,500 --> 00:28:19,266
I asked you, like...
-Yes.
684
00:28:19,266 --> 00:28:21,000
-I asked, did you
get any money for winning
685
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,500
the World Championships?
686
00:28:22,500 --> 00:28:23,733
And the answer was...
687
00:28:23,733 --> 00:28:25,000
-[Both] No.
688
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,266
-And I'm, like, crazed now,
689
00:28:26,266 --> 00:28:28,500
that's on my brain 24/7.
690
00:28:28,500 --> 00:28:30,500
Because you have to have
money in the game.
691
00:28:30,500 --> 00:28:32,833
If you're playing
flag football for a year,
692
00:28:32,833 --> 00:28:34,733
it means you gave up a year
of university,
693
00:28:34,733 --> 00:28:37,366
it means you gave up
a year of training in a company.
694
00:28:37,366 --> 00:28:39,500
So that is what you want to do.
695
00:28:39,500 --> 00:28:41,233
Th-This is what you want.
-Mm-hmm.
696
00:28:41,233 --> 00:28:43,033
-And you gotta do it
while you're young, too,
697
00:28:43,033 --> 00:28:44,866
because you know when
it's done for you,
698
00:28:44,866 --> 00:28:47,033
you want it for other girls
an-and boys as well, right?
699
00:28:47,033 --> 00:28:49,000
-Mm-hmm.
-All genders, mm-hmm.
700
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,933
-Can you tell me about
the Original 9?
701
00:28:51,933 --> 00:28:53,433
-The Original 9!
702
00:28:53,433 --> 00:28:56,100
I love the Original 9.
We've been celebrating
703
00:28:56,100 --> 00:28:58,000
all over the world,
it's been great.
704
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,233
We're all still alive, which is
the most important thing.
705
00:29:00,233 --> 00:29:01,933
But the Original 9
706
00:29:01,933 --> 00:29:04,900
is the birth of women's
professional tennis.
707
00:29:04,900 --> 00:29:07,966
In 1970, nine of us realized
708
00:29:07,966 --> 00:29:10,233
we had to form our own
professional tour
709
00:29:10,233 --> 00:29:13,100
if we were ever going
to step out of the shadow
710
00:29:13,100 --> 00:29:15,466
of men's professional tennis.
711
00:29:15,466 --> 00:29:18,066
There, we had been
considered the sideshow,
712
00:29:18,066 --> 00:29:20,933
and men's tennis was
the main event.
713
00:29:20,933 --> 00:29:24,266
A point that was driven home
by tennis promoter Jack Kramer,
714
00:29:24,266 --> 00:29:27,966
whose famous Pacific Southwest
tournament boldly offered
715
00:29:27,966 --> 00:29:31,566
the male players eight times
more than the women players.
716
00:29:31,566 --> 00:29:34,433
Gladys Heldman, the publisher
of "World Tennis Magazine,"
717
00:29:34,433 --> 00:29:37,000
led us to start our own tour,
718
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,333
and even secured
a title sponsor.
719
00:29:40,333 --> 00:29:44,166
All nine of us agreed
to a $1 contract
720
00:29:44,166 --> 00:29:47,333
to play in the Virginia Slims
of Houston tournament.
721
00:29:47,333 --> 00:29:51,400
The USTA, the governing body
of tennis in the United States,
722
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,166
was furious, and threatened
to banish us
723
00:29:54,166 --> 00:29:56,433
from all future tournaments.
724
00:29:56,433 --> 00:29:59,266
We were willing to risk
our entire careers
725
00:29:59,266 --> 00:30:01,333
for the hope of equality,
726
00:30:01,333 --> 00:30:03,566
not only financially,
727
00:30:03,566 --> 00:30:06,233
but also in terms
of more tournaments,
728
00:30:06,233 --> 00:30:09,000
more marketing,
and more resources
729
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,466
devoted to women's tennis.
730
00:30:11,466 --> 00:30:13,333
We were committed,
731
00:30:13,333 --> 00:30:16,900
and we were together
in the fight.
732
00:30:16,900 --> 00:30:19,500
And these are the three things
we came up with
733
00:30:19,500 --> 00:30:22,933
that we were willing
to lose our careers forever:
734
00:30:22,933 --> 00:30:25,500
That any girl born
in this world,
735
00:30:25,500 --> 00:30:27,400
if she were good enough,
736
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,333
would have a place to compete.
737
00:30:29,333 --> 00:30:31,400
Number two,
she would be appreciated
738
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:32,933
for her accomplishments,
739
00:30:32,933 --> 00:30:35,166
not only her looks.
740
00:30:35,166 --> 00:30:37,466
And number three,
to make a living
741
00:30:37,466 --> 00:30:38,600
playing the sport we absolutely
742
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,400
had a passion to play.
743
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,300
So those were the three things
we were willing to do.
744
00:30:42,300 --> 00:30:44,933
So we're willing to give
everything up.
745
00:30:44,933 --> 00:30:46,166
And so we had
this one tournament,
746
00:30:46,166 --> 00:30:47,933
but I kept saying,
this is great,
747
00:30:47,933 --> 00:30:49,500
but what are we gonna do
after the tournament?
748
00:30:49,500 --> 00:30:51,133
So that's when we started.
749
00:30:51,133 --> 00:30:52,933
It took about
two or three months,
750
00:30:52,933 --> 00:30:54,900
we all asked people to
promote tournaments.
751
00:30:54,900 --> 00:30:57,400
"Would you please do it?
We got a series of tournaments."
752
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,500
They said yes, Virginia Slims
came in as the sponsor.
753
00:31:00,500 --> 00:31:03,300
We had our first tour in 1971.
754
00:31:03,300 --> 00:31:04,900
Larry and I were part owners
755
00:31:04,900 --> 00:31:06,566
of the first two tournaments
756
00:31:06,566 --> 00:31:09,466
in San Francisco
and in Long Beach.
757
00:31:09,466 --> 00:31:12,366
I would even take the soap and
the towels to the locker room.
758
00:31:12,366 --> 00:31:14,133
I would do all kinds of stuff
to set up,
759
00:31:14,133 --> 00:31:16,866
put the lines down, I mean,
we'd do whatever it took.
760
00:31:16,866 --> 00:31:18,533
Then in 1972,
761
00:31:18,533 --> 00:31:21,300
I won the U.S. Open
for the third time.
762
00:31:21,300 --> 00:31:25,500
And when I realized
my earnings were $10,000
763
00:31:25,500 --> 00:31:29,000
and the winner of the men's
tournament, Ilie Nastase,
764
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,300
won $25,000,
765
00:31:31,300 --> 00:31:35,633
I said to myself,
this has got to change.
766
00:31:35,633 --> 00:31:38,633
We worked tirelessly
to recruit more players
767
00:31:38,633 --> 00:31:42,333
to join our cause to band
together for equal pay.
768
00:31:42,333 --> 00:31:45,466
And ultimately,
the Women's Tennis Association
769
00:31:45,466 --> 00:31:48,566
was born, and I became
its first president.
770
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:50,633
The women of tennis
771
00:31:50,633 --> 00:31:51,633
were now organized,
772
00:31:51,633 --> 00:31:54,333
and ready to fight together.
773
00:31:54,333 --> 00:31:55,966
We made it clear
to the U.S. Open
774
00:31:55,966 --> 00:31:58,200
that women would not
be participating
775
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,466
the following year if the pay
was not equal to the men.
776
00:32:02,700 --> 00:32:07,100
Bristol Myers stepped up
to sponsor the pay gap.
777
00:32:07,100 --> 00:32:10,533
Billy Talbert,
the director of the U.S. Open,
778
00:32:10,533 --> 00:32:14,033
made the decision to offer
the same prize money
779
00:32:14,033 --> 00:32:16,366
to the women as the men.
780
00:32:16,366 --> 00:32:19,633
To this day, we don't know
781
00:32:19,633 --> 00:32:21,600
if he made that
decision himself,
782
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,533
or ran it by the board.
783
00:32:23,533 --> 00:32:27,033
We've never been able
to find any proof
784
00:32:27,033 --> 00:32:31,700
that the entire USTA board
voted on this decision.
785
00:32:31,700 --> 00:32:33,933
But starting
the following year,
786
00:32:33,933 --> 00:32:35,966
the U.S. Open led the world
787
00:32:35,966 --> 00:32:38,933
in providing equal
prize money to women.
788
00:32:38,933 --> 00:32:41,700
Equal pay may seem like
an obvious concept,
789
00:32:41,700 --> 00:32:46,033
but the reality is quite
different for women in America.
790
00:32:46,033 --> 00:32:48,400
White women make
$0.83 to the dollar
791
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,100
of their male colleagues,
792
00:32:50,100 --> 00:32:52,133
and women of color
make even less,
793
00:32:52,133 --> 00:32:55,100
at roughly $0.60 on the dollar.
794
00:32:55,100 --> 00:32:56,700
The pay gap is real,
795
00:32:56,700 --> 00:32:59,200
and very problematic
even today.
796
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,466
When I first met Julie Foudy,
797
00:33:02,466 --> 00:33:04,766
she and the world championship
gold medal-winning
798
00:33:04,766 --> 00:33:08,100
U.S. soccer team were
in the fight of their careers
799
00:33:08,100 --> 00:33:10,633
to earn the respect and equality
800
00:33:10,633 --> 00:33:14,266
that had been eluding them
in the 1990s.
801
00:33:14,266 --> 00:33:16,466
They were paid
significantly less
802
00:33:16,466 --> 00:33:18,000
than their male counterparts
803
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,166
who had never won
an Olympics
804
00:33:20,166 --> 00:33:21,666
or a World Cup championship.
805
00:33:23,700 --> 00:33:26,700
-We were trying to establish
the team in the '90s
806
00:33:26,700 --> 00:33:28,700
as kind of the first group
coming through,
807
00:33:28,700 --> 00:33:30,433
and we started
having more success,
808
00:33:30,433 --> 00:33:32,766
we won that first World Cup,
we won the Olympics.
809
00:33:32,766 --> 00:33:34,433
You know, we're gonna be hosting
810
00:33:34,433 --> 00:33:36,700
the first World Cup
in the United States.
811
00:33:36,700 --> 00:33:40,000
And what we quickly realized
is nothing was changing
812
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,600
in terms of the support for us.
813
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,600
Like, we were literally
still making $10 a day.
814
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,266
That was our per diem.
-Oh, my...
815
00:33:46,266 --> 00:33:48,200
-$10 a day.
-$10 a day?
816
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,133
-Yes, with really
817
00:33:50,133 --> 00:33:52,766
no external income
outside of that,
818
00:33:52,766 --> 00:33:56,266
we kept nudging like, hey, yo,
we can't survive on this.
819
00:33:56,266 --> 00:33:59,133
We're no longer in college,
like, we need to either go work,
820
00:33:59,133 --> 00:34:00,533
which means stop playing,
821
00:34:00,533 --> 00:34:02,533
or you need to start
paying us more.
822
00:34:02,533 --> 00:34:04,733
So we're getting more frustrated
and more frustrated each year.
823
00:34:04,733 --> 00:34:07,166
-[Billie] The United States
hosted its first
824
00:34:07,166 --> 00:34:09,400
Women's World Cup in 1999.
825
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,166
It was the summer
that changed everything
826
00:34:12,166 --> 00:34:14,166
for soccer in America.
827
00:34:14,166 --> 00:34:16,166
The three-week-long tournament
828
00:34:16,166 --> 00:34:19,166
packed stadiums with newly
passionate soccer fans and
829
00:34:19,166 --> 00:34:22,666
captivated the nation with
record television ratings.
830
00:34:22,666 --> 00:34:24,666
[ Soft music ]
831
00:34:24,666 --> 00:34:28,533
-[Julie] I think the thing
that made '99 so remarkable
832
00:34:28,533 --> 00:34:32,500
is that no one
expected packed stadiums,
833
00:34:32,500 --> 00:34:34,566
40 million people
watching on TV.
834
00:34:34,566 --> 00:34:36,600
They just didn't expect that,
because everyone said,
835
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,700
do it in small stadiums...
-Mm-hmm.
836
00:34:39,700 --> 00:34:43,066
-Make sure -- maybe you just
want to do it on the East Coast,
837
00:34:43,066 --> 00:34:44,500
you know, make it regional.
838
00:34:44,500 --> 00:34:46,066
But it was a World Cup,
and a World Cup
839
00:34:46,066 --> 00:34:47,600
is like an Olympics.
It's like, no...
840
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,333
-Yeah.
-Why would we go small?
841
00:34:49,333 --> 00:34:51,200
Let's go big.
Let's do big stadiums,
842
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,666
national footprint.
843
00:34:52,666 --> 00:34:54,600
And everyone thought
we were crazy,
844
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,433
and we ended up crushing it.
845
00:34:56,433 --> 00:34:57,833
[ Upbeat music ]
846
00:34:57,833 --> 00:35:00,733
The final of
the 1999 Women's World Cup
847
00:35:00,733 --> 00:35:03,600
ends in penalties,
of course.
848
00:35:05,333 --> 00:35:08,566
Brandi Chastain,
she's the fifth kicker.
849
00:35:08,566 --> 00:35:09,900
If she makes it,
850
00:35:09,900 --> 00:35:12,400
the United States wins.
851
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,400
And she doesn't just
make it, make it,
852
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,233
she side nets it.
853
00:35:16,233 --> 00:35:17,466
Beautiful kick...
854
00:35:17,466 --> 00:35:20,100
[ Crowd cheering ]
855
00:35:21,500 --> 00:35:24,733
And then, she rips off
her jersey.
856
00:35:24,733 --> 00:35:27,633
Flexes, sports bra,
857
00:35:27,633 --> 00:35:30,433
front page of every magazine
across the nation.
858
00:35:30,433 --> 00:35:33,733
You may remember
the iconic photo.
859
00:35:33,733 --> 00:35:36,433
And we won
the World Cup at home
860
00:35:36,433 --> 00:35:38,766
in front of a lot of people
watching on TV
861
00:35:38,766 --> 00:35:41,900
and a packed Rose Bowl stadium,
and it was really cool.
862
00:35:41,900 --> 00:35:43,566
And that's when soccer just...
863
00:35:43,566 --> 00:35:46,400
-That's insane.
-It was really the first time
864
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,266
that people go,
"Oh, this is the potential
865
00:35:49,266 --> 00:35:50,500
for women's sports."
866
00:35:50,500 --> 00:35:52,166
There was that glimpse in '99
867
00:35:52,166 --> 00:35:54,266
where we were like,
oh, my gosh,
868
00:35:54,266 --> 00:35:56,433
this is the potential...
-It had the potential, yeah.
869
00:35:56,433 --> 00:35:58,233
-This is what it should be.
870
00:35:58,233 --> 00:36:01,233
-[Billie] The team won that
World Cup in epic fashion.
871
00:36:01,233 --> 00:36:03,866
The iconic photo of
Brandi Chastain
872
00:36:03,866 --> 00:36:06,300
did spark some controversy.
873
00:36:06,300 --> 00:36:08,866
Although men have been
ripping off their shirts
874
00:36:08,866 --> 00:36:11,466
in celebration of wins
for decades,
875
00:36:11,466 --> 00:36:14,966
some were in an uproar
over Chastain's actions,
876
00:36:14,966 --> 00:36:16,966
revealing that double standards
877
00:36:16,966 --> 00:36:20,300
for men and women
were alive and well.
878
00:36:20,300 --> 00:36:22,566
But despite that criticism,
879
00:36:22,566 --> 00:36:25,400
the World Cup win
was definitive proof
880
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:26,733
that women's soccer was
881
00:36:26,733 --> 00:36:29,500
a successful commercial
enterprise.
882
00:36:29,500 --> 00:36:33,666
It was the leverage
this team had been waiting for.
883
00:36:33,666 --> 00:36:37,633
-So at about this time,
I meet the Billie Jean King.
884
00:36:37,633 --> 00:36:40,800
Super lucky, I get invited by
the Women's Sports Foundation
885
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,233
to this like,
literally roundtable
886
00:36:43,233 --> 00:36:46,500
of ten awesome, badass women,
887
00:36:46,500 --> 00:36:49,633
Billie Jean being one of them,
sitting around the table.
888
00:36:49,633 --> 00:36:52,200
So, Billie Jean King
is telling her story
889
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:58,400
about how women's tennis
in the '70s had to break away
890
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,600
from men's tennis because
891
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,900
she felt that they weren't
ever going to grow
892
00:37:03,900 --> 00:37:07,533
and blossom because they just
couldn't separate from men.
893
00:37:07,533 --> 00:37:08,766
They weren't getting
the support.
894
00:37:08,766 --> 00:37:10,066
They weren't
getting the funding.
895
00:37:10,066 --> 00:37:11,700
They weren't getting
the attention.
896
00:37:11,700 --> 00:37:13,933
And so after
she tells this whole story,
897
00:37:13,933 --> 00:37:17,800
I go, "That's us, help us!"
898
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,466
[ Laughter ]
899
00:37:19,466 --> 00:37:20,766
"That's our story!"
900
00:37:20,766 --> 00:37:23,633
And she turns to me
and she goes,
901
00:37:23,633 --> 00:37:27,766
"Foudy, what are you
doing about it?"
902
00:37:27,766 --> 00:37:30,533
I was like, "I don't know.
I mean, we're trying.
903
00:37:30,533 --> 00:37:32,800
We're asking for help,
we've gone to the federation.
904
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,266
We've complained"...
905
00:37:34,266 --> 00:37:36,600
"Foudy, no, you,
you get the players.
906
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,033
What are you as players doing?
907
00:37:38,033 --> 00:37:40,033
Go home,
get the players.
908
00:37:40,033 --> 00:37:42,866
When you meet next time,
you get them on the same page.
909
00:37:42,866 --> 00:37:45,866
You've got the power.
You, the players.
910
00:37:45,866 --> 00:37:47,633
You need to be fighting
for better.
911
00:37:47,633 --> 00:37:49,433
You, you, the players."
912
00:37:49,433 --> 00:37:51,933
And I was like,
"You're damn right we do.
913
00:37:51,933 --> 00:37:53,466
Okay!"
914
00:37:53,466 --> 00:37:55,300
I was like, yeah, okay,
roll my sleeves up.
915
00:37:55,300 --> 00:37:56,966
Let's go.
916
00:37:56,966 --> 00:38:02,433
So literally from that meeting,
Suni, we are flying.
917
00:38:02,433 --> 00:38:04,966
I'm flying in to meet
the national team,
918
00:38:04,966 --> 00:38:07,533
and my mind is going
a million miles an hour.
919
00:38:07,533 --> 00:38:10,833
It was this epiphany,
and I'm like, oh!
920
00:38:10,833 --> 00:38:13,466
Oh, we're not signing
this contract.
921
00:38:13,466 --> 00:38:15,100
So I get in with the players,
922
00:38:15,100 --> 00:38:17,666
and they literally are like,
let's sign this contract.
923
00:38:17,666 --> 00:38:18,933
And I get the players together.
924
00:38:18,933 --> 00:38:21,333
I was like, "Oh, no.
925
00:38:21,333 --> 00:38:23,333
Billie Jean King
just told me" --
926
00:38:23,333 --> 00:38:26,500
And by then, you know,
we had been fighting
927
00:38:26,500 --> 00:38:28,433
for enough that
we were fed up.
928
00:38:28,433 --> 00:38:31,500
And so, of course, it was easy.
929
00:38:31,500 --> 00:38:33,100
The players were like,
930
00:38:33,100 --> 00:38:34,466
"Yeah, why didn't
we think of that?
931
00:38:34,466 --> 00:38:36,433
I -- Yeah, you're right.
She's right.
932
00:38:36,433 --> 00:38:38,700
No, we're not
signing this contract."
933
00:38:38,700 --> 00:38:45,600
So it was the start of us
saying to U.S. Soccer,
934
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,533
uh-uh, that's not good enough.
935
00:38:47,533 --> 00:38:50,633
And the crazy, cool thing is,
936
00:38:50,633 --> 00:38:54,500
is that Billie didn't
just say to me that first day,
937
00:38:54,500 --> 00:38:56,800
"Hey, Julie, it's really hard,
but you have the power."
938
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,800
She said to me that first day,
939
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,566
"Not only do you have
the power,
940
00:39:00,566 --> 00:39:02,400
I'm going to be
right by your side.
941
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,833
I'm gonna tell you what
we learned, how we did it,
942
00:39:04,833 --> 00:39:08,600
what we did, and I'm going
to pass this on to you."
943
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,400
-So did anything change
after you, like, had that...
944
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,033
-Yeah, a lot changed.
945
00:39:13,033 --> 00:39:15,900
We were like, oh, we really
have the power now.
946
00:39:15,900 --> 00:39:17,166
We have leverage.
947
00:39:17,166 --> 00:39:19,066
We have numbers,
we have data
948
00:39:19,066 --> 00:39:20,866
that backs up our argument
949
00:39:20,866 --> 00:39:22,733
that people care
about this team,
950
00:39:22,733 --> 00:39:24,166
people care about this sport.
951
00:39:24,166 --> 00:39:27,100
People care about
women's sports in general.
952
00:39:27,100 --> 00:39:30,733
So let's start acting
on a daily basis
953
00:39:30,733 --> 00:39:32,766
like you care, as well.
-Right.
954
00:39:32,766 --> 00:39:34,533
-And like, show us
that you care
955
00:39:34,533 --> 00:39:38,033
with a contract, and money,
and payment and support,
956
00:39:38,033 --> 00:39:39,566
most importantly
for the program.
957
00:39:39,566 --> 00:39:41,900
And back then,
it was for equitable pay.
958
00:39:41,900 --> 00:39:44,166
We didn't think equal pay
back then, right?
959
00:39:44,166 --> 00:39:46,500
That's too big.
No, let's just go
960
00:39:46,500 --> 00:39:48,166
for better treatment,
more marketing,
961
00:39:48,166 --> 00:39:50,000
better support,
because they would say,
962
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,400
"You just wanna line
your pockets."
963
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:52,666
No, we wanna
make the game better,
964
00:39:52,666 --> 00:39:54,000
we wanna grow the game.
965
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,500
And Billie was
teaching us all this
966
00:39:55,500 --> 00:39:57,033
as we were going along.
967
00:39:57,033 --> 00:39:59,900
-By sticking together,
the women's soccer team
968
00:39:59,900 --> 00:40:02,933
greatly improved their
financial compensation
969
00:40:02,933 --> 00:40:04,900
and their working conditions.
970
00:40:04,900 --> 00:40:08,733
This history is so important
to revisit and to share
971
00:40:08,733 --> 00:40:12,600
between the generations,
because every single athlete
972
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,766
has had these private struggles
973
00:40:14,766 --> 00:40:17,600
that have taught them
major lessons.
974
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,766
-So for women's
half-pipe snowboarding,
975
00:40:19,766 --> 00:40:23,433
the first Olympics was in 1998,
and so I was prepped.
976
00:40:23,433 --> 00:40:25,000
It was something that was...
977
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,933
possible for me.
978
00:40:26,933 --> 00:40:29,000
I got to watch all of my idols
979
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,100
prep for the Olympics,
I was there.
980
00:40:32,100 --> 00:40:33,833
-I didn't even know
who my idols were.
981
00:40:33,833 --> 00:40:35,533
Isn't that crazy?
-That's what I mean.
982
00:40:35,533 --> 00:40:37,666
Like, I had so many people
I could look up to,
983
00:40:37,666 --> 00:40:40,000
and you, you were the person
984
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,500
you had to look up to,
you know?
985
00:40:42,500 --> 00:40:44,666
-I-It's crazy.
986
00:40:44,666 --> 00:40:46,833
-I was fortunate enough
to witness
987
00:40:46,833 --> 00:40:49,166
so many incredible
female athletes,
988
00:40:49,166 --> 00:40:51,166
and I think the only thing
that was different for me was
989
00:40:51,166 --> 00:40:53,666
that none of them really looked
like me, you know?
990
00:40:53,666 --> 00:40:57,833
There weren't many
Asian-American women in sports,
991
00:40:57,833 --> 00:41:02,133
and so I felt a little bit
of isolation in that regard,
992
00:41:02,133 --> 00:41:04,633
because there were things that
I was struggling with
993
00:41:04,633 --> 00:41:07,066
that no one else seemed
to be struggling with, um,
994
00:41:07,066 --> 00:41:10,100
growing up as a young
Korean-American girl.
995
00:41:10,100 --> 00:41:13,933
But seeing the impact that
I've been able to make
996
00:41:13,933 --> 00:41:16,233
on so many young, young girls,
997
00:41:16,233 --> 00:41:18,066
especially young
Asian-American girls,
998
00:41:18,066 --> 00:41:20,066
has been incredible.
999
00:41:20,066 --> 00:41:23,133
And I'm -- I'm grateful
to be in this position.
1000
00:41:23,133 --> 00:41:24,833
But I definitely did struggle
1001
00:41:24,833 --> 00:41:26,900
because, one,
1002
00:41:26,900 --> 00:41:29,933
snowboarding is
a very male-dominated sport.
1003
00:41:29,933 --> 00:41:32,933
When I was 13, that's when
I first downloaded Instagram,
1004
00:41:32,933 --> 00:41:34,500
and it was cool because
I was like,
1005
00:41:34,500 --> 00:41:37,000
whoa, I got, you know,
200 likes on this photo.
1006
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,733
200 people think I'm cool!
1007
00:41:38,733 --> 00:41:42,166
But also, it opened this door
for people to be mean.
1008
00:41:42,166 --> 00:41:44,633
-Mm-hmm.
-Racist comments, like,
1009
00:41:44,633 --> 00:41:46,833
I won my first X Games medal
at 13,
1010
00:41:46,833 --> 00:41:49,766
and I went to bed crying
myself to sleep that night.
1011
00:41:49,766 --> 00:41:53,100
And that was very painful.
1012
00:41:53,100 --> 00:41:54,733
And I went through it alone.
1013
00:41:54,733 --> 00:41:56,633
I got really upset, you know?
1014
00:41:56,633 --> 00:41:58,733
I became angry.
1015
00:41:58,733 --> 00:42:01,066
I hated the world,
I hated myself.
1016
00:42:01,066 --> 00:42:02,566
I hated...
1017
00:42:02,566 --> 00:42:03,833
you know, that I was Asian.
1018
00:42:03,833 --> 00:42:05,800
Like, it was terrible,
you know?
1019
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,400
Nobody knew, because,
again, when I'm outside,
1020
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,066
smiles on, happy me,
1021
00:42:10,066 --> 00:42:12,300
'cause that's my image,
that's what people see me as
1022
00:42:12,300 --> 00:42:14,300
is this happy, young,
bubbly girl
1023
00:42:14,300 --> 00:42:16,000
who kills it
on a snowboard.
1024
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,966
So if I wasn't any
of those things,
1025
00:42:17,966 --> 00:42:20,833
then I thought
nobody would like me,
1026
00:42:20,833 --> 00:42:23,966
or, like, I wasn't lovable,
because everyone was saying
1027
00:42:23,966 --> 00:42:25,833
the most terrible things
to me online,
1028
00:42:25,833 --> 00:42:27,133
and I let it affect me.
1029
00:42:27,133 --> 00:42:29,233
Nobody really
prepped me for that.
1030
00:42:29,233 --> 00:42:32,633
And that wasn't something
that I expected at all.
1031
00:42:32,633 --> 00:42:35,533
-After winning
the gold in 2018,
1032
00:42:35,533 --> 00:42:38,200
Chloe Kim struggled with
the newfound fame
1033
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:42,233
and even threw her first
gold medal in the trash.
1034
00:42:42,233 --> 00:42:44,200
She worked through
the intense period
1035
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:45,800
and came out the other side
1036
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,133
stronger and more focused
on her goals.
1037
00:42:49,133 --> 00:42:51,633
The path to becoming
a champion athlete
1038
00:42:51,633 --> 00:42:55,033
is riddled with unexpected
complications and obstacles.
1039
00:42:55,033 --> 00:42:58,866
And every athlete I know has
these personal stories.
1040
00:42:58,866 --> 00:43:02,366
[ Intense music ]
1041
00:43:02,366 --> 00:43:06,266
-I wanna hear more about
the lead-up to the Olympics.
1042
00:43:06,266 --> 00:43:08,133
And, yeah, 'cause I--
1043
00:43:08,133 --> 00:43:10,800
obviously, that's a hard time
in itself with COVID
1044
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,066
and everything happening but...
1045
00:43:13,066 --> 00:43:15,233
-Well, it was really
difficult because,
1046
00:43:15,233 --> 00:43:18,066
in 2019, right before
the championship,
1047
00:43:18,066 --> 00:43:20,600
my dad had an accident
which caused him to be
1048
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,600
paralyzed from the waist down.
1049
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,900
Basically got his whole life
taken away from him,
1050
00:43:24,900 --> 00:43:27,266
and it was very difficult.
1051
00:43:27,266 --> 00:43:30,700
The two days that I was trying
to prepare for the championship,
1052
00:43:30,700 --> 00:43:32,300
I spent in the hospital
with my dad.
1053
00:43:32,300 --> 00:43:34,866
And he like
could barely talk at the time,
1054
00:43:34,866 --> 00:43:37,633
but when he did, he was like,
"No, you have to go."
1055
00:43:37,633 --> 00:43:41,200
And I was like, Dad, I'm not
going to the championship
1056
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,866
when you are in
critical condition.
1057
00:43:43,866 --> 00:43:45,866
And he was like,
"Tell Jess to come here" --
1058
00:43:45,866 --> 00:43:48,100
Jess is my coach --
and so my coach
1059
00:43:48,100 --> 00:43:51,800
came to the hospital,
and he was telling my coach
1060
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,100
that I had to go to the meet
and I had to compete.
1061
00:43:54,100 --> 00:43:55,866
Like, I had no other choice.
1062
00:43:55,866 --> 00:43:58,733
And I didn't tell anybody
that that happened to my dad
1063
00:43:58,733 --> 00:44:00,800
because I didn't want
any attention.
1064
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,666
And I just didn't feel
like people should know.
1065
00:44:03,666 --> 00:44:05,833
But I ended up competing,
1066
00:44:05,833 --> 00:44:10,033
and I actually placed second
for my first senior competition,
1067
00:44:10,033 --> 00:44:12,166
which is a really big deal.
1068
00:44:12,166 --> 00:44:15,133
But after all of that
was COVID.
1069
00:44:15,133 --> 00:44:18,300
I wasn't able to train
for a while because,
1070
00:44:18,300 --> 00:44:20,700
obviously, like,
everything was shut down.
1071
00:44:20,700 --> 00:44:22,866
So I was out of the gym for
like a couple months,
1072
00:44:22,866 --> 00:44:25,300
and I was really like,
do I even want this anymore?
1073
00:44:25,300 --> 00:44:27,666
Like, there were times
where I was like,
1074
00:44:27,666 --> 00:44:29,166
I just don't think that
1075
00:44:29,166 --> 00:44:30,433
the Olympics
is gonna happen.
1076
00:44:30,433 --> 00:44:32,433
Like, it got postponed...
1077
00:44:32,433 --> 00:44:33,800
-Yeah, it was so crazy,
that time...
1078
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,800
-It was, yeah, insane.
1079
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:37,333
-That was a little fork
in the road where
1080
00:44:37,333 --> 00:44:39,433
you could've
easily gotten off.
1081
00:44:39,433 --> 00:44:41,033
-No, yeah, because like,
1082
00:44:41,033 --> 00:44:43,033
once I started
training in the gym, too,
1083
00:44:43,033 --> 00:44:45,833
like, the first day back,
I broke my foot.
1084
00:44:45,833 --> 00:44:47,933
Since I was so weak
already, like, it just
1085
00:44:47,933 --> 00:44:49,766
progressively got worse,
1086
00:44:49,766 --> 00:44:52,300
and went into the Olympics --
I mean, I competed
1087
00:44:52,300 --> 00:44:54,300
at the Olympics
with a fractured shin.
1088
00:44:54,300 --> 00:44:56,700
-What?
-Not a lot of people know that.
1089
00:44:56,700 --> 00:44:59,433
[ Laughing ] I just --
-How did you do that?
1090
00:44:59,433 --> 00:45:02,333
-I mean, well, the adrenaline
definitely helped.
1091
00:45:02,333 --> 00:45:04,000
I'm like, okay,
a fractured shin,
1092
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,500
or the Olympics, like,
Olympics, of course.
1093
00:45:06,500 --> 00:45:08,500
-Oh, my word.
1094
00:45:08,500 --> 00:45:09,766
Wow.
1095
00:45:09,766 --> 00:45:11,866
-Yeah, crazy ride.
1096
00:45:13,900 --> 00:45:16,233
-[Diana] When I started,
I started playing at a club.
1097
00:45:16,233 --> 00:45:18,333
We had this amazing stadium,
1098
00:45:18,333 --> 00:45:20,833
the football field,
you know, with lights on.
1099
00:45:20,833 --> 00:45:22,433
Amazing.
1100
00:45:22,433 --> 00:45:26,000
That wasn't where
I started to play flag.
1101
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,766
I started at a dust field
1102
00:45:29,766 --> 00:45:32,866
right in the back,
full of rocks,
1103
00:45:32,866 --> 00:45:35,066
literally, and trash.
1104
00:45:35,066 --> 00:45:37,766
Because they told us
1105
00:45:37,766 --> 00:45:39,400
that we were not allowed
1106
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,166
to stand on the field
1107
00:45:41,166 --> 00:45:44,366
because it was for the boys.
1108
00:45:44,366 --> 00:45:47,200
Every time before a practice,
1109
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,166
my coach, he asked us
to start like,
1110
00:45:50,166 --> 00:45:53,933
um, cleaning t--
the field from rocks
1111
00:45:53,933 --> 00:45:57,733
so I could bring my bag,
my trash bag, to every practice.
1112
00:45:57,733 --> 00:45:59,500
-It's terrible.
So you went from
1113
00:45:59,500 --> 00:46:02,933
this dust field,
rocks, trash bags,
1114
00:46:02,933 --> 00:46:05,233
all this, and then
how old were you
1115
00:46:05,233 --> 00:46:07,066
when you played
on a men's team...
1116
00:46:07,066 --> 00:46:08,400
-14.
-14.
1117
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,000
-Yes, so...
-But the boys let you
1118
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,100
or the coach let you?
-At that moment in time,
1119
00:46:13,100 --> 00:46:15,100
there was a rule in
the league...
1120
00:46:15,100 --> 00:46:17,500
-Ah, there was a rule.
-That if they had a girl
1121
00:46:17,500 --> 00:46:20,966
on the team, they were allowed
to have one more boy.
1122
00:46:20,966 --> 00:46:23,966
-Oh, good, alright --
-So it is like, mmm...
1123
00:46:23,966 --> 00:46:25,933
-So they're not losing out,
basically?
1124
00:46:25,933 --> 00:46:28,400
-Yes. It was hard
at the beginning because
1125
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,266
I remember boys,
and even the coaches,
1126
00:46:31,266 --> 00:46:33,066
didn't get to trust a lot in me
1127
00:46:33,066 --> 00:46:36,466
because, as you said,
it was not their fault.
1128
00:46:36,466 --> 00:46:38,566
I understood it
like, later on.
1129
00:46:38,566 --> 00:46:41,166
-It's culture.
-Because -- Yes, because
1130
00:46:41,166 --> 00:46:44,833
they were used to that
kind of mind-set.
1131
00:46:44,833 --> 00:46:46,400
-Yes.
-And the mind-set of, "Okay,
1132
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,833
the girls, she's the weak one
of the team.
1133
00:46:48,833 --> 00:46:51,433
Okay, we're gonna
protect her, okay..."
1134
00:46:51,433 --> 00:46:53,566
-So how did you -- did you
change their minds?
1135
00:46:53,566 --> 00:46:55,266
-Yes.
-And how did you do that?
1136
00:46:55,266 --> 00:46:58,066
-It was all about like,
my -- my work...
1137
00:46:58,066 --> 00:47:00,466
-It was your skill, right?
-My passion, my skills.
1138
00:47:00,466 --> 00:47:02,300
They saw, and they realized
1139
00:47:02,300 --> 00:47:04,966
that I was not competing
against them,
1140
00:47:04,966 --> 00:47:07,033
I was competing with them...
1141
00:47:07,033 --> 00:47:08,966
-Right, you're on their team,
to win, right?!
1142
00:47:08,966 --> 00:47:11,200
-We have the same passion,
we have the same vision.
1143
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:15,033
We have more things
that connect us
1144
00:47:15,033 --> 00:47:17,200
than what we would've thought.
1145
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,166
-[Billie]
When Jackie Joyner-Kersee
1146
00:47:19,166 --> 00:47:21,466
accepted her invitation to UCLA,
1147
00:47:21,466 --> 00:47:25,133
she achieved her dream
of following in the footsteps
1148
00:47:25,133 --> 00:47:27,533
of Evelyn Ashford,
1149
00:47:27,533 --> 00:47:31,633
Annie Meyers,
and Anita Ortega.
1150
00:47:31,633 --> 00:47:33,633
There, she astounded people
1151
00:47:33,633 --> 00:47:36,233
by playing on
two NCAA teams --
1152
00:47:36,233 --> 00:47:39,133
basketball and track & field.
1153
00:47:39,133 --> 00:47:42,333
Jackie's specialty in track
was the heptathlon,
1154
00:47:42,333 --> 00:47:44,466
which is a grueling contest
1155
00:47:44,466 --> 00:47:46,533
comprised of seven events,
1156
00:47:46,533 --> 00:47:48,233
which include the shot put,
1157
00:47:48,233 --> 00:47:52,466
long jump, 60-meter run,
1,000-meter run,
1158
00:47:52,466 --> 00:47:54,133
100-meter hurdles,
1159
00:47:54,133 --> 00:47:57,300
high jump, and javelin throw.
1160
00:47:57,300 --> 00:48:01,433
In 1984, Jackie participated
in her first Olympics,
1161
00:48:01,433 --> 00:48:04,033
and was considered
the favorite to win,
1162
00:48:04,033 --> 00:48:06,033
until she suffered an injury.
1163
00:48:06,033 --> 00:48:08,466
-It was very challenging
because I was dealing
1164
00:48:08,466 --> 00:48:11,700
with patellar tendonitis
in my left knee,
1165
00:48:11,700 --> 00:48:13,400
and it played on me mentally.
1166
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,633
So I doubted my coaches,
I doubted myself.
1167
00:48:15,633 --> 00:48:17,966
And when I went into the Games,
1168
00:48:17,966 --> 00:48:20,700
my first Olympic Games,
even though they were saying
1169
00:48:20,700 --> 00:48:22,700
that I was okay, I didn't
believe I was okay.
1170
00:48:22,700 --> 00:48:24,266
And I performed like that.
1171
00:48:24,266 --> 00:48:27,366
-[Billie] Even with
a debilitating injury,
1172
00:48:27,366 --> 00:48:29,966
Jackie still competed
in her Olympic events
1173
00:48:29,966 --> 00:48:31,700
and took home
the silver medal.
1174
00:48:31,700 --> 00:48:34,566
But the experience deeply
shook her confidence
1175
00:48:34,566 --> 00:48:36,933
and plagued her for years.
1176
00:48:36,933 --> 00:48:41,033
-I said, when I left
Los Angeles in 1984,
1177
00:48:41,033 --> 00:48:42,700
my first Olympic Games,
I said I wanted to be
1178
00:48:42,700 --> 00:48:44,200
the toughest athlete
out there mentally --
1179
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:45,700
-Mm-hmm.
-Because physically,
1180
00:48:45,700 --> 00:48:47,100
I had the ability.
1181
00:48:47,100 --> 00:48:49,100
But for me,
I never forget that
1182
00:48:49,100 --> 00:48:51,966
before I became that,
I went through this struggle
1183
00:48:51,966 --> 00:48:54,533
before I became, you know,
1184
00:48:54,533 --> 00:48:57,300
the best in the world
in the heptathlon.
1185
00:48:57,300 --> 00:48:59,033
-That's such
a cool thing to say.
1186
00:48:59,033 --> 00:49:00,600
-I know.
1187
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,466
[ Laughter ]
1188
00:49:02,466 --> 00:49:06,200
-[Billie] By the time
the 1988 Olympics rolled around,
1189
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,100
Jackie Joyner-Kersee
was stronger physically
1190
00:49:09,100 --> 00:49:11,600
and mentally
than she'd ever been.
1191
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,266
And she dominated the events,
1192
00:49:14,266 --> 00:49:16,600
setting a heptathlon
world record
1193
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:21,366
that has not been broken
in more than 35 years.
1194
00:49:21,366 --> 00:49:24,266
-Did I think it would still
last this long?
1195
00:49:24,266 --> 00:49:26,000
No.
1196
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,200
I'm happy for it, but that's
just a part of what I did,
1197
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:34,500
but not to the point where it
leads my life or run my life.
1198
00:49:34,500 --> 00:49:35,766
-Like, it doesn't define you?
1199
00:49:35,766 --> 00:49:38,366
-No, right, exactly,
you know?
1200
00:49:38,366 --> 00:49:43,033
So it's like -- And then
when people tell me 35 years,
1201
00:49:43,033 --> 00:49:45,333
you know, I'm like, wow,
that means I'm old, you know?
1202
00:49:45,333 --> 00:49:48,666
[ Laughter ]
1203
00:49:48,666 --> 00:49:50,633
You know, because most people
1204
00:49:50,633 --> 00:49:52,100
don't see our struggles,
you know?
1205
00:49:52,100 --> 00:49:54,166
-Yeah.
-They just see the successes.
1206
00:49:54,166 --> 00:49:56,333
But tell me about the 2018,
1207
00:49:56,333 --> 00:49:58,500
the U.S. Open.
1208
00:49:58,500 --> 00:50:03,200
-It was a lot of mixed,
mixed emotions, yeah.
1209
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,033
-I remember sitting
in my bedroom,
1210
00:50:05,033 --> 00:50:09,266
oh, gosh, just to see
you and Serena battle it out,
1211
00:50:09,266 --> 00:50:11,433
and I just felt
1212
00:50:11,433 --> 00:50:14,200
for both of you
at that moment.
1213
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,633
Oh, you brought me to tears,
1214
00:50:16,633 --> 00:50:19,200
because you were
so grateful, you know?
1215
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,166
And I know that she was like
1216
00:50:22,166 --> 00:50:24,166
a role model and, you know,
1217
00:50:24,166 --> 00:50:26,133
and -- and so,
1218
00:50:26,133 --> 00:50:29,600
could you just share
a little bit of that moment?
1219
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,766
-It felt like a dream to me
to be playing against her
1220
00:50:32,766 --> 00:50:36,033
because I did, like,
a report on her,
1221
00:50:36,033 --> 00:50:38,266
maybe fourth grade
or something,
1222
00:50:38,266 --> 00:50:40,666
and I was just like,
if I ever managed to get
1223
00:50:40,666 --> 00:50:43,600
to the finals of a Slam,
I would love to play Serena.
1224
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,766
Um, and then it
actually happened.
1225
00:50:46,766 --> 00:50:49,666
So it was definitely
a really surreal feeling.
1226
00:50:49,666 --> 00:50:52,133
[ Tense music ]
[ Crowd cheering ]
1227
00:50:56,533 --> 00:50:59,766
I always thought about what
would happen if I won a Slam,
1228
00:50:59,766 --> 00:51:02,233
but just everything
that occurred
1229
00:51:02,233 --> 00:51:05,033
was outside of my imagination.
1230
00:51:06,366 --> 00:51:09,266
I wasn't really prepared for it.
1231
00:51:09,266 --> 00:51:11,533
There was a lot of people saying
that I didn't, like,
1232
00:51:11,533 --> 00:51:14,833
deserve to win,
or that win didn't count,
1233
00:51:14,833 --> 00:51:19,600
but it also really brought
my ambitions very high.
1234
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,233
Like, that just motivated me
a lot to win,
1235
00:51:22,233 --> 00:51:25,100
like, the Australian Open
right after that.
1236
00:51:25,100 --> 00:51:27,566
So, but, yeah,
I just remember feeling
1237
00:51:27,566 --> 00:51:31,500
in that moment very happy
to have won.
1238
00:51:31,500 --> 00:51:33,500
But also I felt very sad because
1239
00:51:33,500 --> 00:51:35,600
I knew how much it
meant to her.
1240
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,600
-[Billie] Naomi's 2018
U.S. Open win against
1241
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,700
her childhood hero,
Serena Williams,
1242
00:51:41,700 --> 00:51:44,166
was an historic night in tennis,
1243
00:51:44,166 --> 00:51:46,833
and Naomi's first
Grand Slam win.
1244
00:51:46,833 --> 00:51:51,333
At the awards ceremony,
the stadium erupted in boos.
1245
00:51:51,333 --> 00:51:54,500
It was an emotional,
intense moment.
1246
00:51:54,500 --> 00:51:58,066
As Naomi hid behind her visor,
1247
00:51:58,066 --> 00:52:00,600
Serena stepped in closer
1248
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,400
and placed her arm
around Naomi's shoulder
1249
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,633
in a sign of solidarity.
1250
00:52:05,633 --> 00:52:09,266
It was one of the most powerful
illustrations of support
1251
00:52:09,266 --> 00:52:12,566
that I've ever seen
in our sport.
1252
00:52:12,566 --> 00:52:14,900
-In your space, in tennis,
1253
00:52:14,900 --> 00:52:18,833
how were you able to
really adapt and adjust?
1254
00:52:18,833 --> 00:52:21,766
-I think, for me, it's just
more about being grateful.
1255
00:52:21,766 --> 00:52:24,466
I have to always
pat myself on the back,
1256
00:52:24,466 --> 00:52:26,800
like, even if I feel like
other people don't.
1257
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:30,233
What's most important
is how I feel on the inside.
1258
00:52:30,233 --> 00:52:33,300
-When I was competing, if I had
talked about my mental health,
1259
00:52:33,300 --> 00:52:34,800
I was considered weak.
1260
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:36,800
-Mm-hmm.
-But for you
1261
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,500
to open that door for
so many people
1262
00:52:39,500 --> 00:52:42,400
that didn't even know they
can have that conversation...
1263
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,733
-[Billie] In 2021, Naomi caused
1264
00:52:45,733 --> 00:52:47,600
quite a stir
when she decided
1265
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,833
not to interact with the media,
1266
00:52:49,833 --> 00:52:51,666
and decided to focus on
1267
00:52:51,666 --> 00:52:54,100
her mental health instead.
1268
00:52:54,100 --> 00:52:55,900
After skipping
the first press conference
1269
00:52:55,900 --> 00:52:58,333
following her opening-round win,
1270
00:52:58,333 --> 00:53:01,366
organizers fined her
and threatened to suspend her
1271
00:53:01,366 --> 00:53:02,700
from the tournament
1272
00:53:02,700 --> 00:53:05,400
and all other
grand slams that year.
1273
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:09,300
Naomi shocked the world
and pulled out altogether,
1274
00:53:09,300 --> 00:53:12,200
and revealed that she had been
struggling with depression
1275
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,466
and anxiety for years,
1276
00:53:14,466 --> 00:53:17,633
becoming one of the first
international sports stars
1277
00:53:17,633 --> 00:53:19,700
to raise awareness
and talk about
1278
00:53:19,700 --> 00:53:22,633
her mental health
struggles publicly.
1279
00:53:22,633 --> 00:53:26,400
-In the beginning, I remember
feeling a bit ashamed about it
1280
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,800
because there is always
that stigma of, like,
1281
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,800
you are weak
if you talk about it,
1282
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,233
and you're giving your
opponents like a...
1283
00:53:34,233 --> 00:53:36,733
like, an edge or something?
1284
00:53:36,733 --> 00:53:39,700
Um, but then
I think I realized,
1285
00:53:39,700 --> 00:53:41,833
and just interacting
with other athletes,
1286
00:53:41,833 --> 00:53:44,500
and them saying that me
talking about it
1287
00:53:44,500 --> 00:53:48,300
helped them out a lot,
it's when I realized, like,
1288
00:53:48,300 --> 00:53:50,200
I'm not the only one
that feels this way.
1289
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,400
-Right.
-And it's better for everyone
1290
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,733
to just talk about it 'cause
then it'll become more,
1291
00:53:55,733 --> 00:53:58,966
I don't want to say normal,
but less stigmatized.
1292
00:53:58,966 --> 00:54:01,366
-I don't know if you ever
lived through, you know,
1293
00:54:01,366 --> 00:54:03,366
the idea of this
impostor syndrome where
1294
00:54:03,366 --> 00:54:04,800
you're always like,
I'm not good enough...
1295
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,633
-Wow, I definitely had that.
1296
00:54:06,633 --> 00:54:08,766
-A lot of women
go through that.
1297
00:54:08,766 --> 00:54:10,766
I mean, I had that
especially in my early days
1298
00:54:10,766 --> 00:54:12,100
with the national team...
1299
00:54:12,100 --> 00:54:15,466
-Yeah.
-Of, why am I here?
1300
00:54:15,466 --> 00:54:18,700
[ Whispering ] Like, does anyone
know I shouldn't be here?
1301
00:54:18,700 --> 00:54:20,700
I think they made a mistake.
1302
00:54:20,700 --> 00:54:22,766
[ Normal ] So how did you
get through that?
1303
00:54:22,766 --> 00:54:24,700
-Well, it was really difficult
1304
00:54:24,700 --> 00:54:27,366
because I had a hard time
talking about it.
1305
00:54:27,366 --> 00:54:31,466
I think I was more, like,
embarrassed than anything
1306
00:54:31,466 --> 00:54:35,366
because I'm like, I don't think
I should have won the Olympics.
1307
00:54:35,366 --> 00:54:38,600
-[Billie] In 2020,
Suni Lee found herself
1308
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,900
in a situation no one could
have predicted.
1309
00:54:41,900 --> 00:54:45,900
One day before the all-around
gymnastic Olympic event,
1310
00:54:45,900 --> 00:54:49,800
gold medal favorite
Simone Biles withdrew.
1311
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,466
Biles experienced
a dangerous phenomena
1312
00:54:52,466 --> 00:54:54,633
known as "the twisties."
1313
00:54:54,633 --> 00:54:58,033
It's when a gymnast's mind
and body are out of sync
1314
00:54:58,033 --> 00:55:02,600
and the athlete cannot
accurately assess where to land.
1315
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:06,600
Simone admitted that she needed
a mental health break,
1316
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:08,666
and months later,
when testifying
1317
00:55:08,666 --> 00:55:10,133
in front of the U.S. Senate,
1318
00:55:10,133 --> 00:55:13,533
on the FBI's mishandling
of the USA gymnastics'
1319
00:55:13,533 --> 00:55:15,633
sexual abuse investigation,
1320
00:55:15,633 --> 00:55:18,833
Biles bravely admitted
that her mental health issues
1321
00:55:18,833 --> 00:55:22,866
in Tokyo were directly tied
to the longtime abuse
1322
00:55:22,866 --> 00:55:26,833
she suffered at the hands of
the team doctor, Larry Nasser.
1323
00:55:26,833 --> 00:55:29,933
-To be clear,
I blame Larry Nasser.
1324
00:55:29,933 --> 00:55:33,633
And I also blame...
1325
00:55:33,633 --> 00:55:35,833
an entire system
1326
00:55:35,833 --> 00:55:39,700
that enabled and perpetrated
his abuse.
1327
00:55:39,700 --> 00:55:42,033
-[Billie] But in Tokyo,
with only 24 hours
1328
00:55:42,033 --> 00:55:44,800
before the event,
Suni Lee was thrust
1329
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:48,933
into the spotlight and into
a chance to win the gold.
1330
00:55:48,933 --> 00:55:52,333
-When Simone is going
through all of that.
1331
00:55:52,333 --> 00:55:54,966
-Yes.
-A-And obviously,
1332
00:55:54,966 --> 00:55:56,600
you didn't know what
your role was gonna be
1333
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,433
coming into this Olympics...
1334
00:55:58,433 --> 00:56:00,666
-No, I mean,
going into the Olympics,
1335
00:56:00,666 --> 00:56:03,033
like, me and my coach,
we were set on like,
1336
00:56:03,033 --> 00:56:05,833
okay, we're just gonna go,
compete for second,
1337
00:56:05,833 --> 00:56:08,066
win a team medal, and you're
going to win a bars medal.
1338
00:56:08,066 --> 00:56:10,833
And I was like, okay, like,
I'm competing for second.
1339
00:56:10,833 --> 00:56:13,500
I've been competing
for second my whole career --
1340
00:56:13,500 --> 00:56:15,166
or not my whole career,
but since Simone's...
1341
00:56:15,166 --> 00:56:17,600
-Is that because you think
Simone's gonna get first?
1342
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,166
-Yeah, we just know,
it's like, Simone's
1343
00:56:19,166 --> 00:56:21,000
always gonna be first,
my coach is like,
1344
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,000
"You're never gonna beat her."
And I was like, "Yeah, I know,
1345
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:24,600
so we're competing for second."
1346
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,900
-Okay.
-And so once
1347
00:56:26,900 --> 00:56:28,733
that happened with her, like,
1348
00:56:28,733 --> 00:56:31,566
it was like,
what do we do now?
1349
00:56:31,566 --> 00:56:33,400
And, like, especially
with the team,
1350
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:34,700
we were all just
sitting there panicking.
1351
00:56:34,700 --> 00:56:36,533
Like, we were crying
on the floor,
1352
00:56:36,533 --> 00:56:37,766
and we were like,
we don't even know,
1353
00:56:37,766 --> 00:56:39,533
like, what to do.
1354
00:56:39,533 --> 00:56:42,833
But then she, like,
came over and talked to us.
1355
00:56:42,833 --> 00:56:44,900
And Simone has always
inspired me,
1356
00:56:44,900 --> 00:56:46,166
so obviously,
I'm gonna listen to her.
1357
00:56:46,166 --> 00:56:47,666
Like, she's the GOAT,
1358
00:56:47,666 --> 00:56:49,533
like, a legend,
and so whenever
1359
00:56:49,533 --> 00:56:51,766
she says anything to me,
I'm like, yep, okay.
1360
00:56:51,766 --> 00:56:54,600
Take it from Simone like, she --
-What'd she say?
1361
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:56,033
-She was just like,
go out there, like --
1362
00:56:56,033 --> 00:56:57,566
She's, first of all,
she was like,
1363
00:56:57,566 --> 00:56:59,200
"I'm sorry that
I can't compete."
1364
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,066
And she was like, "You guys
just got to go out there.
1365
00:57:02,066 --> 00:57:03,800
I'll be your biggest
cheerleader."
1366
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:05,733
And we all just
kind of huddled up,
1367
00:57:05,733 --> 00:57:07,966
and we were just like,
we have to do this for Simone.
1368
00:57:07,966 --> 00:57:09,300
We have to do this for Team USA,
1369
00:57:09,300 --> 00:57:10,900
and we have to do this
for ourselves.
1370
00:57:10,900 --> 00:57:13,166
-[Billie] Suni Lee went on
to win the gold medal
1371
00:57:13,166 --> 00:57:15,966
in the all-around event
at the Olympics.
1372
00:57:15,966 --> 00:57:19,566
But the experience
played on her insecurities.
1373
00:57:19,566 --> 00:57:21,100
-First Olympics...
1374
00:57:21,100 --> 00:57:23,766
-And like, especially when
it didn't go, like,
1375
00:57:23,766 --> 00:57:26,666
the way that you thought
that your Olympics was gonna go,
1376
00:57:26,666 --> 00:57:29,933
like, I just envisioned it,
like, completely different.
1377
00:57:29,933 --> 00:57:31,266
That whole year,
I was like...
1378
00:57:31,266 --> 00:57:33,566
-Really?
-I don't think I should've won.
1379
00:57:33,566 --> 00:57:36,900
Like, if Simone was there,
I definitely wouldn't have won.
1380
00:57:36,900 --> 00:57:39,900
I was constantly telling myself,
like, I'm not good enough.
1381
00:57:39,900 --> 00:57:41,466
I shouldn't have won
the Olympics.
1382
00:57:41,466 --> 00:57:43,800
Like, I was
really mean to myself.
1383
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:47,466
-Oh, my word, wow.
1384
00:57:47,466 --> 00:57:49,600
-But then it was, like,
at the end of the day,
1385
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,500
like, it's a competition,
and whoever shows up, shows up,
1386
00:57:52,500 --> 00:57:53,833
and whoever doesn't, doesn't.
1387
00:57:53,833 --> 00:57:55,633
And that's what
I had to learn.
1388
00:57:55,633 --> 00:57:58,133
And so, it was really difficult.
1389
00:57:58,133 --> 00:58:00,533
-It's hard,
and that's very normal.
1390
00:58:00,533 --> 00:58:03,200
-How did you get through it?
Like, how did you, like --
1391
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,833
like, during, like,
the World Cups and stuff
1392
00:58:05,833 --> 00:58:07,533
like that, like, what was, like,
your mental,
1393
00:58:07,533 --> 00:58:09,166
like, going into it?
1394
00:58:09,166 --> 00:58:12,300
-I had this amazing woman
who worked on the national team,
1395
00:58:12,300 --> 00:58:13,800
Dr. Colleen Hacker,
she was like
1396
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:15,566
a mental skills expert
on the team.
1397
00:58:15,566 --> 00:58:19,966
She would always have
these fantastic exercises
1398
00:58:19,966 --> 00:58:22,666
we could do for
our mental health.
1399
00:58:22,666 --> 00:58:25,200
And one time I came to her
and I said,
1400
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,700
"I -- I'm just
really struggling."
1401
00:58:27,700 --> 00:58:31,066
And then I go into this downward
spiral, and these butterflies.
1402
00:58:31,066 --> 00:58:33,566
And Dr. Hacker said to me,
1403
00:58:33,566 --> 00:58:36,533
"No, never wish
the butterflies to go away."
1404
00:58:36,533 --> 00:58:38,733
And I said, "Oh, no, I want
the butterflies to go away
1405
00:58:38,733 --> 00:58:41,033
because when the butterflies
come, like, I know it's bad."
1406
00:58:41,033 --> 00:58:42,866
And she's like, "No.
1407
00:58:42,866 --> 00:58:44,700
Do you get butterflies
doing the dishes?"
1408
00:58:44,700 --> 00:58:46,033
I'm like, "No."
1409
00:58:46,033 --> 00:58:47,700
"Do you get butterflies
vacuuming?"
1410
00:58:47,700 --> 00:58:49,200
I'm like, "Nope."
1411
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:50,633
She goes, "Exactly!
1412
00:58:50,633 --> 00:58:52,666
The butterflies mean
that you care."
1413
00:58:52,666 --> 00:58:54,133
-Yes.
-"So you always
1414
00:58:54,133 --> 00:58:55,866
want the butterflies,
now just teach them
1415
00:58:55,866 --> 00:58:58,033
to fly in formation."
-Mm-hmm.
1416
00:58:58,033 --> 00:59:01,133
-And I was like,
oh, okay, I get it.
1417
00:59:01,133 --> 00:59:02,733
So how do I do that?
1418
00:59:02,733 --> 00:59:05,733
So she said, you know,
"You wear a hairband?"
1419
00:59:05,733 --> 00:59:07,033
And I said, "Yes."
1420
00:59:07,033 --> 00:59:08,900
And she goes,
"Okay, anytime you start
1421
00:59:08,900 --> 00:59:11,366
to get those negative
thoughts in your brain
1422
00:59:11,366 --> 00:59:13,766
of, like, I don't belong here,
1423
00:59:13,766 --> 00:59:15,633
I stink, I'm terrible,"
1424
00:59:15,633 --> 00:59:18,033
she's like,
"you have a physical reminder."
1425
00:59:18,033 --> 00:59:21,700
So she goes, "Snap that hairband
on your wrist to remind you
1426
00:59:21,700 --> 00:59:24,266
to snap out of it and
replace it with a positive."
1427
00:59:24,266 --> 00:59:26,366
And I was like, I can do that.
1428
00:59:26,366 --> 00:59:30,900
And the crazy thing,
so that physical reminder
1429
00:59:30,900 --> 00:59:34,200
means I make a mental change,
and it actually worked.
1430
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:35,866
So I literally would
be on the field
1431
00:59:35,866 --> 00:59:37,366
in the middle of a game,
and I'd be like, snapping.
1432
00:59:37,366 --> 00:59:39,066
-I ne-- I need to do that.
1433
00:59:39,066 --> 00:59:40,800
-Yeah, or it was like,
1434
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,033
roll up your sleeves,
fix your ponytail, whatever --
1435
00:59:43,033 --> 00:59:45,033
pull your socks up,
like, whatever
1436
00:59:45,033 --> 00:59:48,900
your physical reminder is
to go, no, I'm good, actually,
1437
00:59:48,900 --> 00:59:51,866
I'm gonna crush it,
and you train your brain.
1438
00:59:51,866 --> 00:59:54,900
And the -- Honestly, it works.
1439
00:59:54,900 --> 00:59:57,866
-Today, athletes have really
normalized talking about
1440
00:59:57,866 --> 00:59:59,866
mental health,
which is going to make
1441
00:59:59,866 --> 01:00:03,800
the sports community
and society stronger.
1442
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:05,633
I know it takes a few people
1443
01:00:05,633 --> 01:00:07,366
to inspire a new way
of thinking,
1444
01:00:07,366 --> 01:00:09,700
but it takes patience,
1445
01:00:09,700 --> 01:00:12,700
commitment, and the cooperation
of millions
1446
01:00:12,700 --> 01:00:16,900
to enforce and enact
any kind of real change.
1447
01:00:19,633 --> 01:00:20,933
-Title IX.
1448
01:00:20,933 --> 01:00:23,766
It was an amazing thing
for women,
1449
01:00:23,766 --> 01:00:27,433
not only in sports,
but for women empowerment
1450
01:00:27,433 --> 01:00:29,800
to open more opportunities
and possibilities.
1451
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,066
-Yes, what it's really about,
1452
01:00:32,066 --> 01:00:33,700
it's an educational
amendment.
1453
01:00:33,700 --> 01:00:35,733
It was about classroom quotas.
1454
01:00:35,733 --> 01:00:37,300
For instance, if you wanted
to go to Harvard
1455
01:00:37,300 --> 01:00:39,133
and get a medical degree,
1456
01:00:39,133 --> 01:00:43,200
they only allowed 5%
of the classroom to be women.
1457
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,633
-Mm-hmm.
-So what happened in '72
1458
01:00:45,633 --> 01:00:47,700
is the federal government said,
1459
01:00:47,700 --> 01:00:50,200
"We're gonna send you monies,
all of you get monies,
1460
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:53,200
all the schools,
but for the first time,
1461
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:57,700
you're gonna have to spend it
equally on boys and girls.
1462
01:00:57,700 --> 01:00:58,966
Not just boys."
1463
01:00:58,966 --> 01:01:01,300
Even today, boys in
high school...
1464
01:01:01,300 --> 01:01:03,033
-Have more opportunities.
-...have more opportunities
1465
01:01:03,033 --> 01:01:05,766
than we do,
and that's not right either.
1466
01:01:05,766 --> 01:01:07,266
-Mm-hmm.
-It has been
1467
01:01:07,266 --> 01:01:09,366
a slow, arduous...
1468
01:01:09,366 --> 01:01:11,300
you gotta be in it
for the long game.
1469
01:01:11,300 --> 01:01:12,933
If you care about change,
1470
01:01:12,933 --> 01:01:15,100
you gotta be in it
for the long haul.
1471
01:01:15,100 --> 01:01:17,766
So it's better,
1472
01:01:17,766 --> 01:01:19,933
but we still have
a long way to go.
1473
01:01:19,933 --> 01:01:22,433
Title IX revolutionized
opportunities for women
1474
01:01:22,433 --> 01:01:25,766
and girls, but over
50 years later,
1475
01:01:25,766 --> 01:01:30,433
there are still issues with
implementation and enforcement.
1476
01:01:30,433 --> 01:01:35,100
Funding for women's sports
is still nowhere equal to men's,
1477
01:01:35,100 --> 01:01:36,200
and the number of
1478
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:37,366
college women athletes
1479
01:01:37,366 --> 01:01:39,200
is still not proportional
1480
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:40,633
to the ratio of
1481
01:01:40,633 --> 01:01:42,866
enrolled women in college.
1482
01:01:42,866 --> 01:01:45,666
Continuing the conversation
between generations
1483
01:01:45,666 --> 01:01:48,266
is key to Title IX's
continued impact
1484
01:01:48,266 --> 01:01:50,300
for generations to come.
1485
01:01:52,100 --> 01:01:55,200
-I'm curious,
athletes your age,
1486
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,100
what is their impression
of Title IX,
1487
01:01:57,100 --> 01:02:02,233
and how aware are they
even of what Title IX is?
1488
01:02:02,233 --> 01:02:05,266
-I think we're aware
that it's, like,
1489
01:02:05,266 --> 01:02:09,166
obviously about eq--
creating equality for women.
1490
01:02:09,166 --> 01:02:13,066
Not a lot of people talk about
it as much as we want them to.
1491
01:02:13,066 --> 01:02:15,166
-Yeah, they don't
fully understand it.
1492
01:02:15,166 --> 01:02:18,000
-Yes.
-Well, and that's the thing.
1493
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:22,333
I don't blame young girls
or young boys because
1494
01:02:22,333 --> 01:02:24,000
we're not taught it in school.
1495
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:27,166
It should be part of our
standard curriculum,
1496
01:02:27,166 --> 01:02:28,933
I think, it's one
of the most profound
1497
01:02:28,933 --> 01:02:30,600
civil rights laws in
this country.
1498
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:34,233
I didn't learn about it
until I met Billie Jean King
1499
01:02:34,233 --> 01:02:36,033
and the Women's Sports
Foundation.
1500
01:02:36,033 --> 01:02:38,733
-Speaking of Title IX,
like, I heard that
1501
01:02:38,733 --> 01:02:41,033
you were at Stanford and they
didn't offer scholarships.
1502
01:02:41,033 --> 01:02:42,766
Like, were you on scholarship?
1503
01:02:42,766 --> 01:02:44,333
-You know, I started on
the national team really young,
1504
01:02:44,333 --> 01:02:46,000
16 years old,
so I was already
1505
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:47,600
on the national team
in high school.
1506
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,100
So you would think, like,
okay, by today's standards,
1507
01:02:50,100 --> 01:02:52,166
if you're a national teamer...
1508
01:02:52,166 --> 01:02:54,333
-Scholarship, ready.
-...you would have -- yeah,
1509
01:02:54,333 --> 01:02:57,066
you would have probably
300 universities.
1510
01:02:57,066 --> 01:02:59,100
-Yeah.
-I only had, like,
1511
01:02:59,100 --> 01:03:01,566
two or three options
for scholarships.
1512
01:03:01,566 --> 01:03:04,066
-Wow.
-But Stanford,
1513
01:03:04,066 --> 01:03:06,500
I had always wanted to go to,
but at the time,
1514
01:03:06,500 --> 01:03:08,400
they didn't have
any scholarships yet.
1515
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:11,933
But as a kid, I had loved
the academics of Stanford
1516
01:03:11,933 --> 01:03:13,233
combined with the athletics,
1517
01:03:13,233 --> 01:03:15,233
and had always wanted
to go there.
1518
01:03:15,233 --> 01:03:17,333
And so the coach said,
you know, "We don't have
1519
01:03:17,333 --> 01:03:20,600
any scholarships yet,
but by your sophomore year,
1520
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:22,000
I think we'll have
a scholarship."
1521
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:23,500
And so I turned down a full ride
1522
01:03:23,500 --> 01:03:25,233
to University of
North Carolina
1523
01:03:25,233 --> 01:03:27,066
and a couple of
other universities,
1524
01:03:27,066 --> 01:03:30,000
and not only did the scholarship
not happen my sophomore year,
1525
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,400
it didn't happen
my junior year either.
1526
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:35,100
So it wasn't until
my senior year,
1527
01:03:35,100 --> 01:03:37,566
Title IX passes in 1972,
1528
01:03:37,566 --> 01:03:42,100
I got the first women's soccer
scholarship at Stanford in 1992.
1529
01:03:42,100 --> 01:03:44,166
-Oh, my gosh.
-Yeah.
1530
01:03:44,166 --> 01:03:45,966
-That's insane.
-My senior year.
1531
01:03:45,966 --> 01:03:48,166
-No, you know, it's crazy
to think about it like,
1532
01:03:48,166 --> 01:03:50,933
from your perspective,
because it's like,
1533
01:03:50,933 --> 01:03:54,066
I was offered a scholarship
in eighth grade.
1534
01:03:54,066 --> 01:03:55,666
-See, eighth grade!
-Yeah.
1535
01:03:55,666 --> 01:03:58,233
In eighth grade was
when I committed to Auburn.
1536
01:03:58,233 --> 01:03:59,966
You committed to Auburn in...
-Yes.
1537
01:03:59,966 --> 01:04:03,366
-See, that in itself, too,
is the power of Title IX.
1538
01:04:05,333 --> 01:04:08,133
-You know, for me
to be here with you,
1539
01:04:08,133 --> 01:04:09,966
and you weren't even born
1540
01:04:09,966 --> 01:04:12,533
when I was doing what
I was trying to do,
1541
01:04:12,533 --> 01:04:15,533
and then I look at Title IX
1542
01:04:15,533 --> 01:04:17,333
and the difference it made
in my life.
1543
01:04:17,333 --> 01:04:20,166
The law was passed when
I was ten years of age,
1544
01:04:20,166 --> 01:04:23,833
and to be -- we called it
a "Title IX baby."
1545
01:04:23,833 --> 01:04:26,200
And I wanted to go to UCLA
1546
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:28,166
because I thought it
was a great school for girls,
1547
01:04:28,166 --> 01:04:30,200
knowing that my parents
couldn't afford
1548
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:32,533
to send me out to California.
1549
01:04:32,533 --> 01:04:36,000
So what do you think of
when Title IX is mentioned?
1550
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:39,533
-I feel like I didn't know
about it at first,
1551
01:04:39,533 --> 01:04:42,000
which was shocking to me,
because I realized how much
1552
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:45,133
of an effect it has on
so many people's lives
1553
01:04:45,133 --> 01:04:46,966
and of course,
the sporting world.
1554
01:04:46,966 --> 01:04:51,300
-And what impact did it have
on your life?
1555
01:04:51,300 --> 01:04:55,566
-For me, I realize where
I am right now, um, is because
1556
01:04:55,566 --> 01:04:58,133
of a lot of other women
that came before me,
1557
01:04:58,133 --> 01:05:00,933
and they fought the fight
that I didn't have to.
1558
01:05:00,933 --> 01:05:03,566
So for me, I feel like
I will also have to fight
1559
01:05:03,566 --> 01:05:07,266
a lot of fights for the kids
and the women after me.
1560
01:05:07,266 --> 01:05:10,533
And to me, that's what
Title IX stands for.
1561
01:05:10,533 --> 01:05:14,566
It's women that I didn't know,
1562
01:05:14,566 --> 01:05:16,533
but they fought
the fight for me,
1563
01:05:16,533 --> 01:05:20,133
and we'll just keep continuing
to do the same thing.
1564
01:05:20,133 --> 01:05:24,566
-I didn't know that there was
Title IX when I was in college
1565
01:05:24,566 --> 01:05:26,066
at Old Dominion.
1566
01:05:26,066 --> 01:05:29,066
I thought everybody
got scholarships.
1567
01:05:29,066 --> 01:05:32,133
At what point did you realize
1568
01:05:32,133 --> 01:05:34,433
you were doing
something special,
1569
01:05:34,433 --> 01:05:37,200
but it might be connected
to Title IX?
1570
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:39,300
-I never lived in
the world without Title IX.
1571
01:05:39,300 --> 01:05:42,200
We have been discriminated
against for so long,
1572
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:44,300
and for me to not know
for such a long period
1573
01:05:44,300 --> 01:05:46,433
of time was honestly
heartbreaking.
1574
01:05:46,433 --> 01:05:48,033
I don't think
we talk about it enough.
1575
01:05:48,033 --> 01:05:49,766
-Like, you knew something
was wrong.
1576
01:05:49,766 --> 01:05:52,600
I knew something was wrong
when I found out my teammates
1577
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:54,433
had slivers of scholarships,
1578
01:05:54,433 --> 01:05:56,033
but all the guys on
the men's team
1579
01:05:56,033 --> 01:05:58,300
had full scholarships.
-Yeah.
1580
01:05:58,300 --> 01:06:01,666
-And that's when
I started hearing that word,
1581
01:06:01,666 --> 01:06:04,100
Title IX, and what it was.
-Mm-hmm.
1582
01:06:04,100 --> 01:06:07,366
-And here we are,
you know, so many decades apart,
1583
01:06:07,366 --> 01:06:11,600
you and I, squarely, we're in
the foxhole together...
1584
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:13,366
-Yeah.
-For Title IX,
1585
01:06:13,366 --> 01:06:15,433
and to continuing to change
1586
01:06:15,433 --> 01:06:18,300
the lives of young people,
but educate.
1587
01:06:18,300 --> 01:06:22,100
-By 1972, the women's
rights movement was making
1588
01:06:22,100 --> 01:06:26,466
significant progress,
including Roe v. Wade
1589
01:06:26,466 --> 01:06:30,366
and Title IX's access to
education equality.
1590
01:06:30,366 --> 01:06:33,500
But there was still
a prominent cultural attitude
1591
01:06:33,500 --> 01:06:36,600
that men were better
than women.
1592
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:40,266
Then the American tennis legend
Bobby Riggs called me.
1593
01:06:40,266 --> 01:06:42,100
[ Film reel whirring ]
1594
01:06:42,100 --> 01:06:44,766
-Billie, you mean to say you
think I put women down?
1595
01:06:44,766 --> 01:06:47,700
Is that what you're saying
that I'm doing all the time?
1596
01:06:47,700 --> 01:06:49,500
-Yes, I do,
I don't think
1597
01:06:49,500 --> 01:06:52,833
you give us credit for
having any brains at all.
1598
01:06:52,833 --> 01:06:54,600
-[Billie] I agreed
to play Bobby Riggs
1599
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:57,766
in a made-for-primetime
television spectacle
1600
01:06:57,766 --> 01:07:02,200
with the largest in-person
audience tennis had ever seen,
1601
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:05,366
plus 90 million people
watching from home.
1602
01:07:05,366 --> 01:07:08,333
Make no mistake, this match
was a public challenge
1603
01:07:08,333 --> 01:07:10,500
to the advancement
of the feminist movement
1604
01:07:10,500 --> 01:07:12,600
by a man who publicly bragged
1605
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:16,166
that women belonged in
the bedroom and the kitchen.
1606
01:07:16,166 --> 01:07:18,166
You know, that's fine, because
if that's where you're at,
1607
01:07:18,166 --> 01:07:19,933
then that's okay...
1608
01:07:19,933 --> 01:07:22,600
-Well, I get along very well
with a lot of girls...
1609
01:07:24,333 --> 01:07:26,066
-Bobby had been following me
around for two years,
1610
01:07:26,066 --> 01:07:27,400
I kept saying no,
then he called
1611
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:29,233
Chris Evert, Nancy Richey,
everybody.
1612
01:07:29,233 --> 01:07:30,666
"Would you play me?
Would you play me?
1613
01:07:30,666 --> 01:07:32,666
We'll make lots of money."
1614
01:07:32,666 --> 01:07:35,066
And everybody said,
no, but Margaret said yes.
1615
01:07:35,066 --> 01:07:37,233
Margaret Court,
the Australian tennis player,
1616
01:07:37,233 --> 01:07:40,533
was one of the best tennis
players of all time.
1617
01:07:40,533 --> 01:07:43,033
She accepted
Bobby's offer first...
1618
01:07:44,533 --> 01:07:47,066
but the match did not
go well for her.
1619
01:07:47,066 --> 01:07:50,233
And I had told Larry,
if Margaret should lose,
1620
01:07:50,233 --> 01:07:52,200
I have to play.
1621
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:53,500
Well, she lost, badly.
1622
01:07:53,500 --> 01:07:55,333
This is what it's
really all about,
1623
01:07:55,333 --> 01:07:57,200
because Bobby challenged me
in the first place,
1624
01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:58,566
and I didn't wanna
start an issue.
1625
01:07:58,566 --> 01:08:00,133
But now that Margaret went ahead
1626
01:08:00,133 --> 01:08:02,133
and opened the door,
I can beat Bobby.
1627
01:08:02,133 --> 01:08:04,466
-What makes you think that
I won't be able to psych you out
1628
01:08:04,466 --> 01:08:05,766
of the match just like
I did Margaret?
1629
01:08:05,766 --> 01:08:07,266
Now, what makes you think that?
1630
01:08:07,266 --> 01:08:08,833
-I'm not Margaret Court,
I love pressure.
1631
01:08:08,833 --> 01:08:10,600
You can try
to psych me all you want.
1632
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:12,566
You know, he's my dad's age.
I kept telling, you guys,
1633
01:08:12,566 --> 01:08:14,400
this is no athletic feat for me.
1634
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:17,400
It means nothing from
an athletic point of view,
1635
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:19,600
but from a psychological...
-That's it.
1636
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:21,500
-And changing culture.
-Mm-hmm.
1637
01:08:21,500 --> 01:08:23,433
-I mean, women could not
even get a credit card
1638
01:08:23,433 --> 01:08:24,900
on our own when I played him...
1639
01:08:24,900 --> 01:08:26,600
-Mm-hmm.
-Without having a guy sign.
1640
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:29,833
I mean, it's just these little,
like, stupid things.
1641
01:08:29,833 --> 01:08:32,233
And then the chaos started.
1642
01:08:32,233 --> 01:08:34,333
-[Announcer]
A wild scene almost reminiscent
1643
01:08:34,333 --> 01:08:36,300
of college football.
1644
01:08:36,300 --> 01:08:39,166
And it's hard to believe,
1645
01:08:39,166 --> 01:08:41,733
but probably more than
30,000 people are in
1646
01:08:41,733 --> 01:08:45,233
this arena for an all-time
record tennis audience
1647
01:08:45,233 --> 01:08:46,600
anywhere in the world.
1648
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:48,733
-Howard Cosell
was horrible to me.
1649
01:08:48,733 --> 01:08:50,566
He talked about
my looks only.
1650
01:08:50,566 --> 01:08:52,066
-[Howard] Billie Jean King,
a very attractive young lady...
1651
01:08:52,066 --> 01:08:54,300
-[ Groans ]
-And sometimes,
1652
01:08:54,300 --> 01:08:56,800
you get the feeling that,
if she ever let her hair
1653
01:08:56,800 --> 01:09:00,233
grow down to her shoulders,
took her glasses off,
1654
01:09:00,233 --> 01:09:01,700
you'd have somebody vying
for a Hollywood screen test.
1655
01:09:01,700 --> 01:09:04,200
-[ Sighing ]
-There she is...
1656
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:05,833
-[Billie]
Only looks, he talked about.
1657
01:09:05,833 --> 01:09:09,566
Bobby comes out, he talks
about, "Oh, Hall of Famer,"
1658
01:09:09,566 --> 01:09:11,466
you know, about his
accomplishments.
1659
01:09:11,466 --> 01:09:13,566
-[Howard] There was,
would you believe, a problem
1660
01:09:13,566 --> 01:09:16,533
about one of our announcers
to be, Jack Kramer,
1661
01:09:16,533 --> 01:09:17,966
the famed tennis promoter,
1662
01:09:17,966 --> 01:09:20,533
the famed tennis player
of the past.
1663
01:09:20,533 --> 01:09:23,333
Jack was to have been
part of our team,
1664
01:09:23,333 --> 01:09:25,666
but it seems that
Billie Jean King didn't
1665
01:09:25,666 --> 01:09:28,533
want him to be part of
our announcing team.
1666
01:09:28,533 --> 01:09:30,300
-Correct.
1667
01:09:30,300 --> 01:09:32,300
ABC hired former tennis promoter
1668
01:09:32,300 --> 01:09:35,966
Jack Kramer to announce
the match with Howard Cosell.
1669
01:09:35,966 --> 01:09:37,800
You might remember Jack Kramer
1670
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:39,466
from the Pacific Southwest
Tournament,
1671
01:09:39,466 --> 01:09:42,633
where he offered
the male players eight times
1672
01:09:42,633 --> 01:09:44,866
the pay that he offered
the women.
1673
01:09:44,866 --> 01:09:47,866
Jack's tournament offer
was the final catalyst
1674
01:09:47,866 --> 01:09:50,333
for the Original 9
joining forces.
1675
01:09:50,333 --> 01:09:54,000
So Jack and I,
we had real history.
1676
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,833
I knew audiences deserved
to see this match
1677
01:09:56,833 --> 01:09:59,966
through the commentating
of an expert who believed in
1678
01:09:59,966 --> 01:10:01,800
what we women could do.
1679
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:05,366
And I knew it was the right time
for me to use the leverage I had
1680
01:10:05,366 --> 01:10:07,533
earned as the number-one player
in the world.
1681
01:10:07,533 --> 01:10:11,700
So I told ABC that
Jack Kramer was a dealbreaker.
1682
01:10:11,700 --> 01:10:15,800
ABC agreed, but actually
gave Jack Kramer airtime
1683
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:17,566
to address his being replaced.
1684
01:10:17,566 --> 01:10:21,300
-But apparently Billie Jean
1685
01:10:17,566 --> 01:10:21,300
wa
\h
s very serious, and she feels
1686
01:10:21,300 --> 01:10:22,833
that I'm completely opposed
1687
01:10:22,833 --> 01:10:24,466
to what she's trying
to do in tennis.
1688
01:10:24,466 --> 01:10:26,366
-Correct.
-And I have to say
1689
01:10:26,366 --> 01:10:28,833
that Billie Jean's right,
to ABC's credit, they said,
1690
01:10:28,833 --> 01:10:30,666
"You call the shots, Jack,
we'll go along with you"
1691
01:10:30,666 --> 01:10:32,633
but I'm withdrawing
voluntarily,
1692
01:10:32,633 --> 01:10:35,500
and I'm wishing 100% good luck
to my pal Bobby Riggs.
1693
01:10:36,966 --> 01:10:40,400
-When I look back at this,
I have to laugh.
1694
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:44,300
This commentating
is the best historical record
1695
01:10:44,300 --> 01:10:46,733
of what the male establishment
thought about women.
1696
01:10:46,733 --> 01:10:50,633
-Camera, and this is
our female expert tonight.
1697
01:10:50,633 --> 01:10:52,733
Recognize her?
Little Rosie Casals.
1698
01:10:52,733 --> 01:10:56,166
-Ugh, God almighty.
1699
01:10:56,166 --> 01:11:00,266
Rosie Casals was one of the top
players of her generation,
1700
01:11:00,266 --> 01:11:02,300
and my doubles
tennis partner.
1701
01:11:02,300 --> 01:11:05,033
I just wanna point out that
this is truly what it was like
1702
01:11:05,033 --> 01:11:07,700
for women in 1973.
1703
01:11:07,700 --> 01:11:09,866
Look how Howard Cosell
1704
01:11:09,866 --> 01:11:13,366
drapes his arm around
Rosie's neck,
1705
01:11:13,366 --> 01:11:16,866
how he refers to her
as "little Rosie Casals."
1706
01:11:16,866 --> 01:11:19,700
Can you imagine how many
people saw this behavior
1707
01:11:19,700 --> 01:11:23,866
from the control room and
laughed it off and said nothing?
1708
01:11:23,866 --> 01:11:26,533
This is just
business as usual.
1709
01:11:26,533 --> 01:11:31,300
I am so glad I didn't see this
commentating at the time.
1710
01:11:31,300 --> 01:11:34,400
On that day,
all I was focused on
1711
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:35,733
was my match
1712
01:11:35,733 --> 01:11:38,300
and my strategy to win.
1713
01:11:38,300 --> 01:11:40,033
When I was playing,
everybody thought
1714
01:11:40,033 --> 01:11:41,733
I'd just serve and volley,
which is my game.
1715
01:11:41,733 --> 01:11:43,766
Just go forward, forward,
forward, forward.
1716
01:11:43,766 --> 01:11:46,566
And as I got to the baseline,
1717
01:11:46,566 --> 01:11:48,766
which is right before you go
up to the umpire's chair,
1718
01:11:48,766 --> 01:11:50,300
I switched.
1719
01:11:50,300 --> 01:11:51,566
I could just feel it,
1720
01:11:51,566 --> 01:11:53,400
Something very intuitive
came to me
1721
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:54,866
that I was not gonna do that,
1722
01:11:54,866 --> 01:11:56,700
I was gonna hit the ball
as softly as I could.
1723
01:11:56,700 --> 01:11:58,433
I was gonna stay back
most of the time,
1724
01:11:58,433 --> 01:12:02,000
drop shot a lot, and also
make him run, run, run.
1725
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:03,833
He is really tired.
1726
01:12:03,833 --> 01:12:06,833
My job is to get
the ball in play
1727
01:12:06,833 --> 01:12:08,633
to give him a chance to miss.
1728
01:12:08,633 --> 01:12:10,033
I made him just
run and run.
1729
01:12:10,033 --> 01:12:12,433
-[Rosie] I knew this
would come to this.
1730
01:12:12,433 --> 01:12:14,633
And I knew Bobby
would have to, uh,
1731
01:12:14,633 --> 01:12:17,600
come down to something
like injuries...
1732
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:20,433
-[Howard] Well, let me say
this about Bobby Riggs, Rosie,
1733
01:12:20,433 --> 01:12:23,800
you've gotten in all your licks
tonight at the guy...
1734
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:26,100
-So I go like this on
the shot, I go hit up.
1735
01:12:26,100 --> 01:12:28,000
I mean, he should just
be able to put it away
1736
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:30,600
on an easy volley,
he hit it right in the net.
1737
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:32,600
He was so tired, he couldn't
get his arm up.
1738
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:35,866
-[Howard] It is over.
Let's watch Bobby Riggs.
1739
01:12:35,866 --> 01:12:38,100
Three straight...
1740
01:12:38,100 --> 01:12:40,800
-When he jumped over the net,
1741
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:43,100
he said, "I underestimated you."
1742
01:12:43,100 --> 01:12:44,633
I didn't underestimate him.
1743
01:12:44,633 --> 01:12:46,133
He was one of my heroes.
1744
01:12:46,133 --> 01:12:48,533
He was a Hall of Famer,
I looked at tapes.
1745
01:12:48,533 --> 01:12:51,366
I understood him a lot better
than he understood me.
1746
01:12:51,366 --> 01:12:53,433
And I think that helped me
win the match, too.
1747
01:12:53,433 --> 01:12:57,800
[ Triumphant music ]
1748
01:13:05,166 --> 01:13:07,000
I bet a lot of
male chauvinists
1749
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:09,700
aren't really proud of
Bobby Riggs representing them,
1750
01:13:09,700 --> 01:13:11,066
but I'm sure
I've only heard from
1751
01:13:11,066 --> 01:13:12,600
the ones that aren't
proud of him.
1752
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:14,266
The ones who are proud of him,
1753
01:13:14,266 --> 01:13:16,400
I'm sure would go talk to him
instead of talk to me.
1754
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:24,566
For the women,
it gave more self-confidence.
1755
01:13:24,566 --> 01:13:26,400
You know, I went and met some --
with some women.
1756
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:30,333
They said, "We've been wanting
to ask for a raise for ten years
1757
01:13:30,333 --> 01:13:31,733
and we never had the guts."
1758
01:13:31,733 --> 01:13:33,466
I said, "Well, what happened?"
1759
01:13:33,466 --> 01:13:35,233
They go, "We asked."
1760
01:13:35,233 --> 01:13:37,600
I said, "No, more importantly,
did you get the raise?"
1761
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:39,400
And they said, "Yes!"
1762
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:41,233
And so they were so happy.
1763
01:13:41,233 --> 01:13:43,433
The men come up to me,
and they're crying, usually.
1764
01:13:43,433 --> 01:13:45,733
They're actually crying,
tears in their eyes.
1765
01:13:45,733 --> 01:13:47,900
And they said,
"I never thought about
1766
01:13:47,900 --> 01:13:51,233
my wife, my daughters,
my nieces,
1767
01:13:51,233 --> 01:13:54,133
I never really
thought about it."
1768
01:13:54,133 --> 01:13:57,333
Even when I met President Obama
in the Oval Office,
1769
01:13:57,333 --> 01:13:58,800
one of the first things
he says to me,
1770
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:00,833
"I saw that match when
I was 12 years old.
1771
01:14:00,833 --> 01:14:03,300
It changed how I thought.
1772
01:14:03,300 --> 01:14:05,866
And now I have two daughters,
so I know it helped me
1773
01:14:05,866 --> 01:14:08,333
raise my two daughters
to be strong."
1774
01:14:08,333 --> 01:14:10,200
And I'm thinking, whoa.
1775
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:11,566
-Yes, the impact --
-He was 12.
1776
01:14:11,566 --> 01:14:13,066
You don't know, right?
-Yes.
1777
01:14:13,066 --> 01:14:15,200
-[Woman] Through her
example and advocacy,
1778
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:16,633
Billie Jean Moffitt King
1779
01:14:16,633 --> 01:14:18,233
has advanced the struggle
1780
01:14:18,233 --> 01:14:20,900
for greater gender equality
around the world.
1781
01:14:20,900 --> 01:14:23,300
Her athletic acumen
is matched only
1782
01:14:23,300 --> 01:14:26,466
by her unwavering defense
of equal rights.
1783
01:14:26,466 --> 01:14:28,533
With Billie Jean King
pushing us,
1784
01:14:28,533 --> 01:14:30,733
the road ahead will
be smoother for women,
1785
01:14:30,733 --> 01:14:34,400
the future will be brighter
for LGBT Americans,
1786
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:36,466
and our nation's
commitment to equality
1787
01:14:36,466 --> 01:14:39,300
will be stronger for all.
1788
01:14:39,300 --> 01:14:42,833
[ Applause ]
1789
01:14:45,533 --> 01:14:48,533
[ Soft music ]
1790
01:14:48,533 --> 01:14:50,533
-It has been
a long, long journey,
1791
01:14:50,533 --> 01:14:51,866
and as you said, like,
a lot of things
1792
01:14:51,866 --> 01:14:54,466
have changed, um,
during the past years.
1793
01:14:54,466 --> 01:14:56,366
Like a lot of things,
not only for women,
1794
01:14:56,366 --> 01:14:58,800
but only in terms of
inclusion, like...
1795
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:00,433
-Everybody's aware of it now.
1796
01:15:00,433 --> 01:15:02,700
-How that journey was for you?
1797
01:15:02,700 --> 01:15:04,466
-What, to be outed?
1798
01:15:04,466 --> 01:15:07,533
I was trying to figure out
my sexuality during the tour
1799
01:15:07,533 --> 01:15:09,766
in the '70s when
Larry and I were married
1800
01:15:09,766 --> 01:15:11,700
and going through hell.
1801
01:15:11,700 --> 01:15:13,466
And then the people
on the tour told me
1802
01:15:13,466 --> 01:15:15,533
if I talk about anything,
what I'm feeling,
1803
01:15:15,533 --> 01:15:18,400
that there'd be no tour.
1804
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:20,266
So that was
a real easy decision.
1805
01:15:20,266 --> 01:15:22,966
Okay, I won't, then.
1806
01:15:22,966 --> 01:15:25,533
But I was going to retire
and I was finally
1807
01:15:25,533 --> 01:15:26,766
gonna make some money,
1808
01:15:26,766 --> 01:15:28,466
and I got outed.
1809
01:15:28,466 --> 01:15:32,933
So I lost all my endorsements
in 24 hours, except one.
1810
01:15:32,933 --> 01:15:35,800
They lowered it,
which was even worse.
1811
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:38,533
And then I was called "slut."
I mean, I was called --
1812
01:15:38,533 --> 01:15:41,266
you cannot imagine
what I was called.
1813
01:15:41,266 --> 01:15:43,866
And I'm so happy today
that doesn't happen.
1814
01:15:43,866 --> 01:15:45,966
You know, people say,
"Oh, Billie, we came out
1815
01:15:45,966 --> 01:15:47,533
and I did this,"
and they're so happy.
1816
01:15:47,533 --> 01:15:49,033
And I'm like, yes!
1817
01:15:49,033 --> 01:15:51,433
But then it makes me
think, sometimes,
1818
01:15:51,433 --> 01:15:55,633
I go back and how sad I was
and how tough it was...
1819
01:15:55,633 --> 01:15:58,533
and that made me
even more sensitive
1820
01:15:58,533 --> 01:16:00,800
than ever to others.
-Mm-hmm.
1821
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:02,833
-And that I just think
everybody belongs.
1822
01:16:02,833 --> 01:16:05,466
I don't care if they're gay,
I don't care if they're trans,
1823
01:16:05,466 --> 01:16:07,933
I don't care, as long
as they're okay, you know?
1824
01:16:07,933 --> 01:16:10,933
But they're human beings first,
that's what I care about.
1825
01:16:10,933 --> 01:16:13,766
It goes back to
my 12-year-old epiphany
1826
01:16:13,766 --> 01:16:16,833
about inclusion, if you think
about what I thought about then,
1827
01:16:16,833 --> 01:16:20,866
that I think everybody belongs,
everybody is important.
1828
01:16:20,866 --> 01:16:22,133
-Mm-hmm.
-Every human being
1829
01:16:22,133 --> 01:16:23,466
is absolutely important.
1830
01:16:23,466 --> 01:16:24,966
-Yes, I feel that, as society,
1831
01:16:24,966 --> 01:16:27,766
we're going to make
a big change
1832
01:16:27,766 --> 01:16:32,366
when you got to understand
that what matters is not where
1833
01:16:32,366 --> 01:16:35,366
you're from, or who you are...
-No, it's not.
1834
01:16:35,366 --> 01:16:37,433
-Or if you're a man, woman.
1835
01:16:37,433 --> 01:16:39,600
If you -- Nothing matters.
1836
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:41,466
-It doesn't.
-The only thing that matters
1837
01:16:41,466 --> 01:16:44,700
is what you have to bring
to life.
1838
01:16:44,700 --> 01:16:47,533
-Inclusion has mattered
to me since I was a child.
1839
01:16:47,533 --> 01:16:50,433
We can never
understand inclusion
1840
01:16:50,433 --> 01:16:52,366
until we have been excluded.
1841
01:16:52,366 --> 01:16:54,866
Prioritizing inclusion
1842
01:16:54,866 --> 01:16:57,500
is about wanting more
for those who are
1843
01:16:57,500 --> 01:16:59,966
often left behind
or forgotten.
1844
01:16:59,966 --> 01:17:03,666
We cannot talk about inclusion
without celebrating
1845
01:17:03,666 --> 01:17:06,533
Para athletes
and the Paralympics.
1846
01:17:06,533 --> 01:17:10,433
Since the first Paralympics
was held in 1960,
1847
01:17:10,433 --> 01:17:13,833
the Games have uniquely
created a space for athletes
1848
01:17:13,833 --> 01:17:16,033
of all abilities to participate
1849
01:17:16,033 --> 01:17:19,400
and compete in
the thrill of sports.
1850
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:21,533
As pioneers for inclusion,
1851
01:17:21,533 --> 01:17:23,666
Para athletes and
the Paralympics challenge
1852
01:17:23,666 --> 01:17:26,100
stereotypes and break down
discrimination
1853
01:17:26,100 --> 01:17:29,033
towards people
with disabilities.
1854
01:17:29,033 --> 01:17:32,833
Vision, courage,
and imagination.
1855
01:17:32,833 --> 01:17:35,066
That is what it takes
to create a world
1856
01:17:35,066 --> 01:17:39,900
that includes and welcomes
all people in all spaces.
1857
01:17:39,900 --> 01:17:43,100
That includes everyone,
all people.
1858
01:17:43,100 --> 01:17:45,566
Women who have wanted
to become mothers
1859
01:17:45,566 --> 01:17:48,000
also have had to push
to create a world where
1860
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:49,500
they can pursue their dreams,
1861
01:17:49,500 --> 01:17:52,666
both professionally
and personally.
1862
01:17:52,666 --> 01:17:55,000
[ Soft music ]
1863
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:57,166
-So how did you like, balance,
1864
01:17:57,166 --> 01:17:59,600
like, motherhood with
your career?
1865
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:01,566
-Mmm...
1866
01:18:01,566 --> 01:18:02,933
How many days do we have
for this one?
1867
01:18:02,933 --> 01:18:05,733
-[ Laughs ]
1868
01:18:05,733 --> 01:18:07,600
-Well, one, I didn't have kids
1869
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:09,566
while I was playing,
although,
1870
01:18:09,566 --> 01:18:13,666
the really cool thing
was I was surrounded by
1871
01:18:13,666 --> 01:18:15,566
a lot of teammates who did.
-Mm-hmm.
1872
01:18:15,566 --> 01:18:18,833
-And so it was fantastic to see
1873
01:18:18,833 --> 01:18:21,600
the evolution of people
thinking as athletes.
1874
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:23,466
You know, before we used
to think as female athletes,
1875
01:18:23,466 --> 01:18:26,100
oh, we can't have kids
and compete, you know?
1876
01:18:26,100 --> 01:18:29,233
I gotta retire, I gotta go
and then be a mom.
1877
01:18:29,233 --> 01:18:32,166
And, you know,
going back to Joy Fawcett,
1878
01:18:32,166 --> 01:18:33,933
who was a teammate of mine,
she was the first one
1879
01:18:33,933 --> 01:18:35,600
to have kids on
the national team,
1880
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:37,566
and she was like, "Why not?
I'm going to have kids."
1881
01:18:37,566 --> 01:18:39,600
And she literally would
pop out a kid,
1882
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:41,066
and then be back practicing
like a month later.
1883
01:18:41,066 --> 01:18:44,000
-Oh, my God.
-I was like, what?
1884
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:45,733
-And would their kids
come, like...
1885
01:18:45,733 --> 01:18:47,800
-Yeah, kids on the road.
1886
01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:51,233
And it was so fun because
it was perspective, you know?
1887
01:18:51,233 --> 01:18:53,233
They didn't care if
we'd won or lost,
1888
01:18:53,233 --> 01:18:55,800
they just wanted to be fed
or loved or hugged.
1889
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:58,100
And so they're playing,
so we'd be, you know,
1890
01:18:58,100 --> 01:18:59,966
walking off the field
and they'd be there
1891
01:18:59,966 --> 01:19:01,833
hugging you, and it
was like, aww!
1892
01:19:01,833 --> 01:19:03,200
So it truly was like
1893
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:04,966
a big family
when we would travel.
1894
01:19:04,966 --> 01:19:06,666
So when Joy had kids,
1895
01:19:06,666 --> 01:19:10,533
then she gave the rest
of the national team, really,
1896
01:19:10,533 --> 01:19:13,166
the courage to go,
"Oh, I can do this."
1897
01:19:13,166 --> 01:19:17,533
And now, of course, we see
all these fantastic examples
1898
01:19:17,533 --> 01:19:19,166
of women having kids
and competing,
1899
01:19:19,166 --> 01:19:23,800
and not just in sports,
but the idea of
1900
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:25,800
you're going to be a mom,
and you're going to stay home,
1901
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:27,533
and you're gonna take care
of the house.
1902
01:19:27,533 --> 01:19:32,133
And we're seeing the evolution
in society as a whole
1903
01:19:32,133 --> 01:19:34,566
about women's roles
1904
01:19:34,566 --> 01:19:36,166
and sharing that equally
with their partner.
1905
01:19:36,166 --> 01:19:37,800
-Yeah.
-And also,
1906
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:39,033
you're seeing it
in women's sports,
1907
01:19:39,033 --> 01:19:40,533
which is fantastic to see.
1908
01:19:40,533 --> 01:19:43,800
-Yeah, that's incredible.
1909
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:45,666
-You're going to be
a mother soon...
1910
01:19:45,666 --> 01:19:47,966
[ Both laughing ]
You know?
1911
01:19:47,966 --> 01:19:50,333
So how do you feel about
1912
01:19:50,333 --> 01:19:52,833
this transition
that you're in?
1913
01:19:52,833 --> 01:19:54,866
-It's definitely
very interesting.
1914
01:19:54,866 --> 01:19:57,866
I would feel like, for me,
1915
01:19:57,866 --> 01:20:00,566
I started to think
certain things
1916
01:20:00,566 --> 01:20:03,166
that I cared a lot about before,
1917
01:20:03,166 --> 01:20:05,033
they don't matter as much.
-Mmm.
1918
01:20:05,033 --> 01:20:07,233
-And not to say, like,
they were trivial things.
1919
01:20:07,233 --> 01:20:09,033
But at the end of the day,
1920
01:20:09,033 --> 01:20:11,966
what matters most
is my friends and my family.
1921
01:20:11,966 --> 01:20:14,300
And just being able
to be around them
1922
01:20:14,300 --> 01:20:17,133
and knowing that there's like,
so many things that can happen
1923
01:20:17,133 --> 01:20:19,566
in a day, and just
feeling grateful
1924
01:20:19,566 --> 01:20:21,966
and being appreciative
to be here, I think,
1925
01:20:21,966 --> 01:20:23,966
is really important for me.
1926
01:20:23,966 --> 01:20:26,700
And I've actually started
talking to my mom a lot
1927
01:20:26,700 --> 01:20:29,533
because she kind of went through
a really rough time
1928
01:20:29,533 --> 01:20:30,900
with me and my sister.
1929
01:20:30,900 --> 01:20:32,166
Not like we were bad kids...
1930
01:20:32,166 --> 01:20:34,000
-No, no...
-But like, just,
1931
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:35,800
we didn't have
the most money,
1932
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:38,800
so she was like, working,
and also taking care of us.
1933
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:42,300
So just being very grateful
for her, I think it made me
1934
01:20:42,300 --> 01:20:44,733
appreciate my mom a lot,
and her journey
1935
01:20:44,733 --> 01:20:47,133
and just seeing things
from a different eye
1936
01:20:47,133 --> 01:20:50,233
that I never expected.
1937
01:20:50,233 --> 01:20:53,166
-All of us are role models
for different people,
1938
01:20:53,166 --> 01:20:54,800
and then sometimes,
our role model
1939
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:57,500
is right in front of us
who give us strength.
1940
01:20:57,500 --> 01:21:02,200
-I wanted to ask you if you had
any people that inspire you.
1941
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:05,033
-Yeah, I would say,
when you start talking about
1942
01:21:05,033 --> 01:21:09,100
maternal rights, Allyson Felix
is the quiet storm.
1943
01:21:09,100 --> 01:21:11,033
-[Billie] Allyson Felix
is a role model
1944
01:21:11,033 --> 01:21:12,733
who challenged
the accepted norms
1945
01:21:12,733 --> 01:21:15,133
in professional sports
to make space for
1946
01:21:15,133 --> 01:21:18,800
the inclusion of women
who want to become mothers.
1947
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:22,200
By 2019, she was one of
the most decorated Americans
1948
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:24,900
in Olympic history
and the most decorated
1949
01:21:24,900 --> 01:21:27,233
Track & Field
World Championship winner,
1950
01:21:27,233 --> 01:21:30,633
male or female, of all time.
1951
01:21:30,633 --> 01:21:32,300
But her influence extends
1952
01:21:32,300 --> 01:21:35,366
way beyond her contributions
to sports.
1953
01:21:35,366 --> 01:21:38,700
Allyson used her voice
to demand more from mothers
1954
01:21:38,700 --> 01:21:40,800
in the workplace everywhere.
1955
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:44,033
In 2018, she became pregnant
with her daughter
1956
01:21:44,033 --> 01:21:46,200
and kept it a secret
because she was afraid
1957
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:49,100
of what might happen
to her career.
1958
01:21:49,100 --> 01:21:51,100
After Allyson delivered
her daughter,
1959
01:21:51,100 --> 01:21:55,266
it was time to renegotiate her
contract with her sponsor, Nike.
1960
01:21:55,266 --> 01:21:56,966
She was shocked to discover
1961
01:21:56,966 --> 01:22:01,266
the company proposed
a 70% pay cut.
1962
01:22:01,266 --> 01:22:03,100
After all of her achievements
1963
01:22:03,100 --> 01:22:06,266
and a decade of partnership,
Nike was penalizing her
1964
01:22:06,266 --> 01:22:09,000
for choosing
to become a mother.
1965
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:12,666
Allyson pushed back
and asked Nike to provide her
1966
01:22:12,666 --> 01:22:15,033
with protection against
financial penalties
1967
01:22:15,033 --> 01:22:17,666
tied to performance
that had no regard
1968
01:22:17,666 --> 01:22:20,766
for the realities of childbirth
and new motherhood.
1969
01:22:20,766 --> 01:22:24,866
She took a stand and went public
with her fight in the press.
1970
01:22:24,866 --> 01:22:28,200
-I know my own experience when
I decided to start a family
1971
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:30,900
and not being supported,
ultimately,
1972
01:22:30,900 --> 01:22:33,266
how it made me feel
that I wasn't valued.
1973
01:22:33,266 --> 01:22:35,766
And so many women who came
before me who struggled.
1974
01:22:35,766 --> 01:22:38,266
-[Billie] She realized if
this was happening to her,
1975
01:22:38,266 --> 01:22:39,933
one of the most decorated
1976
01:22:39,933 --> 01:22:41,933
Olympic athletes
in American history,
1977
01:22:41,933 --> 01:22:44,466
it was likely happening
to other women, too.
1978
01:22:44,466 --> 01:22:45,966
-[Allyson] I don't think you
should have to choose
1979
01:22:45,966 --> 01:22:48,833
between your profession
and having a family, you know,
1980
01:22:48,833 --> 01:22:52,100
to be able to do both and be
able to do both very well.
1981
01:22:52,100 --> 01:22:54,766
-[Billie] As a direct result
of her activism
1982
01:22:54,766 --> 01:22:57,033
and after months
of negotiations,
1983
01:22:57,033 --> 01:23:00,900
Nike and other major sponsors
changed their corporate policies
1984
01:23:00,900 --> 01:23:04,400
around maternity protection,
now guaranteeing athletes'
1985
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:07,733
pay through and after pregnancy.
1986
01:23:07,733 --> 01:23:11,900
Allyson Felix continues to
advocate for maternal rights.
1987
01:23:11,900 --> 01:23:15,133
Her willingness to speak up
illustrates the continued fight
1988
01:23:15,133 --> 01:23:18,300
for equality and
fair treatment for all.
1989
01:23:18,300 --> 01:23:21,133
-[Diana] I know that we still
have a lot of things
1990
01:23:21,133 --> 01:23:23,000
to work on
and need to fight for.
1991
01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:27,033
This vision you had from
since you were little,
1992
01:23:27,033 --> 01:23:30,133
where do you feel like
where we are right now?
1993
01:23:30,133 --> 01:23:32,000
-Well, people are starting
to invest in us.
1994
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:34,066
-Right.
-Okay, it's about money.
1995
01:23:34,066 --> 01:23:36,833
And men can be
unbelievable allies.
1996
01:23:36,833 --> 01:23:38,366
When they care,
'cause they have --
1997
01:23:38,366 --> 01:23:40,866
usually have more money,
and they're powerful,
1998
01:23:40,866 --> 01:23:42,400
that's what happened to us.
1999
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:45,133
We had many men,
most of them were white,
2000
01:23:45,133 --> 01:23:46,900
allies for us.
2001
01:23:46,900 --> 01:23:49,866
Most of the time, in fact,
every time we got a sponsor,
2002
01:23:49,866 --> 01:23:51,500
they also had daughters.
2003
01:23:51,500 --> 01:23:53,933
-Right.
-So the first thing I always do
2004
01:23:53,933 --> 01:23:58,100
with a C.E.O. when we went
for sponsorship is ask him,
2005
01:23:58,100 --> 01:24:00,300
"Tell me about your family."
2006
01:24:00,300 --> 01:24:03,233
And if he came from
a family of all boys, like,
2007
01:24:03,233 --> 01:24:06,400
"Oh, I have four brothers,
I have three boys,"
2008
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:08,500
I'm thinking, "Uh-oh,
we're in trouble."
2009
01:24:08,500 --> 01:24:10,000
And we would be.
2010
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:11,500
Usually, when
we got a sponsorship,
2011
01:24:11,500 --> 01:24:13,266
the C.E.O. had a daughter.
2012
01:24:13,266 --> 01:24:15,166
-Right.
-Because he understands.
2013
01:24:15,166 --> 01:24:17,133
He wakes up -- I can't tell you
how many guys go,
2014
01:24:17,133 --> 01:24:18,666
"I didn't have a daughter,
2015
01:24:18,666 --> 01:24:21,100
and I saw you play
Bobby Riggs or whatever,
2016
01:24:21,100 --> 01:24:24,266
and then I had a daughter,
and you woke me up."
2017
01:24:24,266 --> 01:24:25,933
It's like, "You woke me up.
2018
01:24:25,933 --> 01:24:28,766
I started to think about,
'God, my daughter --
2019
01:24:28,766 --> 01:24:31,766
what am I going to do w--'"
He hadn't thought about her.
2020
01:24:31,766 --> 01:24:33,733
He thought a lot,
he said, about his son
2021
01:24:33,733 --> 01:24:36,966
and how he's going to raise him
and take him, you know, fishing
2022
01:24:36,966 --> 01:24:39,133
and doing this
and playing ball with him.
2023
01:24:39,133 --> 01:24:42,733
But he never thought about
playing catch with his daughter.
2024
01:24:42,733 --> 01:24:45,500
Male allies can be found
in the boardroom
2025
01:24:45,500 --> 01:24:46,800
or the living room.
2026
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:49,500
Some of the most powerful
stories of allyship
2027
01:24:49,500 --> 01:24:51,600
have started with
the fathers and mothers
2028
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:54,733
found in our own homes.
2029
01:24:54,733 --> 01:24:58,266
-I understand that maybe
you had a balance beam
2030
01:24:58,266 --> 01:24:59,366
in your backyard...
-Yeah.
2031
01:24:59,366 --> 01:25:01,300
-...at a young age.
Is that true?
2032
01:25:01,300 --> 01:25:04,900
-Yep, when I was younger,
I was always flipping around,
2033
01:25:04,900 --> 01:25:07,466
like, on the floor
and on the bed and stuff.
2034
01:25:07,466 --> 01:25:10,200
So my dad decided to build me
a beam out of wood,
2035
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:12,633
and that was the one thing that
I used every single day.
2036
01:25:12,633 --> 01:25:15,000
-Was it padded, the beam?
It was just, like, a wood beam?
2037
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:16,966
-Yeah, it was literally --
It was just wood.
2038
01:25:16,966 --> 01:25:19,033
-Maybe that's
why I wasn't a gymnast.
2039
01:25:19,033 --> 01:25:22,000
My parents never built me
a balance beam in my backyard.
2040
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:23,300
I'm gonna talk to them
about that.
2041
01:25:23,300 --> 01:25:26,033
-[ Laughs ] I definitely --
It's, like, so weird.
2042
01:25:26,033 --> 01:25:27,233
I don't think I actually
2043
01:25:27,233 --> 01:25:31,233
could have done anything
without that beam.
2044
01:25:31,233 --> 01:25:33,266
-Men don't realize
how important they are
2045
01:25:33,266 --> 01:25:34,566
to their daughters
a lot of times.
2046
01:25:34,566 --> 01:25:35,933
-Right.
-They really don't.
2047
01:25:35,933 --> 01:25:37,566
And I've talked to so many men
2048
01:25:37,566 --> 01:25:39,633
that have daughters
and how it changed their life
2049
01:25:39,633 --> 01:25:42,933
and how they had to rearrange
their thinking because
2050
01:25:42,933 --> 01:25:45,000
they want their daughter
to have as much as their son.
2051
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:46,533
It's like,
it's a no-brainer to them
2052
01:25:46,533 --> 01:25:47,666
once they have a daughter.
2053
01:25:47,666 --> 01:25:49,100
They go, "Of course!"
2054
01:25:49,100 --> 01:25:50,433
But before that, they said,
2055
01:25:50,433 --> 01:25:51,900
"You know, I never
thought about it."
2056
01:25:51,900 --> 01:25:55,133
-I used to stay after practice,
like, every day with my dad
2057
01:25:55,133 --> 01:25:57,400
at night, like,
throwing the ball.
2058
01:25:57,400 --> 01:26:00,433
And I remember he told me
like, "Okay, now farther."
2059
01:26:00,433 --> 01:26:02,800
-And then your mother also
has to play a role in that.
2060
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:04,966
My mother is the reason we got
2061
01:26:04,966 --> 01:26:07,166
to a tournament
or a baseball game.
2062
01:26:07,166 --> 01:26:09,233
She was like a saint.
2063
01:26:09,233 --> 01:26:13,166
-I got a lot of my inspiration
from my mother.
2064
01:26:13,166 --> 01:26:16,133
Her and my dad were teenagers
when they had my brother.
2065
01:26:16,133 --> 01:26:18,433
They were
14 and 16 years of age.
2066
01:26:18,433 --> 01:26:20,633
My mother wasn't able to finish
high school.
2067
01:26:20,633 --> 01:26:23,600
And myself, the oldest girl,
2068
01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:25,700
a lot of responsibility
was put on me.
2069
01:26:25,700 --> 01:26:28,533
But I got inspiration
from my mother
2070
01:26:28,533 --> 01:26:32,300
because she had
the strength to not give up.
2071
01:26:32,300 --> 01:26:35,433
And when people said that,
"Your kids
2072
01:26:35,433 --> 01:26:37,600
and you're not going
to amount to anything,"
2073
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:39,500
she still found a way.
2074
01:26:39,500 --> 01:26:43,600
And then, being able to see
my mother go through that,
2075
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:48,033
but then also being able
to watch stories of
2076
01:26:48,033 --> 01:26:50,766
Babe Zaharias,
you know, Wilma Rudolph --
2077
01:26:50,766 --> 01:26:52,700
You know, you talk about
Billie Jean King,
2078
01:26:52,700 --> 01:26:54,300
Althea Gibson.
2079
01:26:54,300 --> 01:26:55,900
You know,
Zina Garrison was someone
2080
01:26:55,900 --> 01:26:59,000
that I really
worked with, as well.
2081
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:04,833
And to know that, uh,
these women who inspire me --
2082
01:27:04,833 --> 01:27:07,600
My sister-in-law, FloJo,
which sometimes when
2083
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:10,733
you among what
we might consider greatness,
2084
01:27:10,733 --> 01:27:12,500
that they right --
our own peers,
2085
01:27:12,500 --> 01:27:14,433
that we don't recognize that.
2086
01:27:14,433 --> 01:27:17,500
[ Soft music ]
2087
01:27:17,500 --> 01:27:21,433
-My dad was dope,
like, 100%, you know?
2088
01:27:21,433 --> 01:27:24,200
I remember,
when I was 7 years old,
2089
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:26,833
my dad watched
a former Olympian, like,
2090
01:27:26,833 --> 01:27:28,533
train, as well,
in the same half-pipe.
2091
01:27:28,533 --> 01:27:31,300
And my dad was like,
"Chloe could do that.
2092
01:27:31,300 --> 01:27:33,066
She could be an Olympian."
2093
01:27:33,066 --> 01:27:34,533
So many people are,
2094
01:27:34,533 --> 01:27:36,166
like, telling me
I shouldn't snowboard.
2095
01:27:36,166 --> 01:27:38,000
Family members like,
"You shouldn't do it.
2096
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:39,066
You should do a..."
-Why?
2097
01:27:39,066 --> 01:27:41,066
-..."girly sport," like...
2098
01:27:41,066 --> 01:27:43,100
-Cooking?
-...golf, tennis.
2099
01:27:43,100 --> 01:27:44,600
My dad was like,
"No, my daughter's gonna be
2100
01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:46,033
the best snowboarder
in the world."
2101
01:27:46,033 --> 01:27:49,666
-Look at that.
This is my daughter.
2102
01:27:49,666 --> 01:27:52,200
[ Triumphant music ]
2103
01:27:55,100 --> 01:27:58,333
-I think the basis
of, you know, like,
2104
01:27:58,333 --> 01:28:00,433
wanting to help others
is really important.
2105
01:28:00,433 --> 01:28:02,533
Sometimes, the kids will, like,
2106
01:28:02,533 --> 01:28:05,133
ask me for advice,
and, um, I hope
2107
01:28:05,133 --> 01:28:07,400
they don't have to go through,
like, some of the tough times
2108
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:08,633
that I had to go through.
2109
01:28:08,633 --> 01:28:11,366
So I think that is
2110
01:28:11,366 --> 01:28:13,400
what I really would want.
2111
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:15,766
I was playing tennis
since I was 3
2112
01:28:15,766 --> 01:28:18,633
and I was just always
with my dad and my sister,
2113
01:28:18,633 --> 01:28:21,133
playing on the courts,
and we would literally
2114
01:28:21,133 --> 01:28:23,233
pack lunch and eat lunch
on the courts.
2115
01:28:23,233 --> 01:28:24,600
That's how long
we'd be out there.
2116
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:26,566
But there was never
a point in my life
2117
01:28:26,566 --> 01:28:29,800
that I never had
a tennis racket in my hand.
2118
01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:32,800
When I was a kid,
I remember seeing my dad,
2119
01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:34,733
uh, like, coaching us,
2120
01:28:34,733 --> 01:28:38,300
and then, randomly, like, the
police would get called on him,
2121
01:28:38,300 --> 01:28:40,566
and just seeing how
he had to figure that out
2122
01:28:40,566 --> 01:28:42,466
and also just have
the enthusiasm
2123
01:28:42,466 --> 01:28:45,800
to tell us like, "It's all
okay," and stuff like that.
2124
01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:49,200
-Wow. So, what do you
think about people saying
2125
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:52,000
"shut up and dribble"
or "athletes shouldn't be
2126
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:53,700
involved in politics"?
2127
01:28:53,700 --> 01:28:55,233
What are your thoughts?
2128
01:28:55,233 --> 01:28:58,566
-I think, to me, it doesn't
really make that much sense.
2129
01:28:58,566 --> 01:29:02,266
I feel like maybe the people
that say that type of stuff
2130
01:29:02,266 --> 01:29:04,133
kind of forget that
we're human, too,
2131
01:29:04,133 --> 01:29:06,800
with our own opinions
and our own thoughts.
2132
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:11,966
And some of the most memorable
athletic moments to me are --
2133
01:29:11,966 --> 01:29:14,400
I don't want to say political,
but, like,
2134
01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:17,900
they have a deeper meaning
than just playing the sport.
2135
01:29:17,900 --> 01:29:21,733
-I agree with Naomi that
some moments in sports history
2136
01:29:21,733 --> 01:29:25,900
do have a deeper meaning than
just playing the sport.
2137
01:29:25,900 --> 01:29:31,566
In 1936, American track star
Jesse Owens' mere presence
2138
01:29:31,566 --> 01:29:34,166
at the Berlin Olympics
in Nazi Germany
2139
01:29:34,166 --> 01:29:36,866
brought headlines
around the world.
2140
01:29:36,866 --> 01:29:39,933
Wyomia Tyus quietly
honored the Black women
2141
01:29:39,933 --> 01:29:41,600
in Jim Crow-era America
2142
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:45,800
when, at the 1968 Olympics,
she wore dark running shorts
2143
01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:49,600
instead of the official
white U.S. team uniform.
2144
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:53,166
Just days later,
Tommie Smith and John Carlos
2145
01:29:53,166 --> 01:29:55,366
proudly displayed
the Black Power symbol
2146
01:29:55,366 --> 01:29:58,733
to illustrate solidarity with
the Civil Rights Movement,
2147
01:29:58,733 --> 01:30:01,600
resulting in them being
dropped from the team
2148
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:04,466
and sent back to the U.S.
2149
01:30:04,466 --> 01:30:08,500
The United States itself led
the boycott of the 1980 Olympics
2150
01:30:08,500 --> 01:30:10,900
in Moscow as a protest
2151
01:30:10,900 --> 01:30:13,900
against the Russian invasion
of Afghanistan.
2152
01:30:13,900 --> 01:30:16,066
-And I have notified
the Olympic Committee
2153
01:30:16,066 --> 01:30:20,333
that, with Soviet invading
forces in Afghanistan,
2154
01:30:20,333 --> 01:30:22,766
neither the American people
nor I will support
2155
01:30:22,766 --> 01:30:25,066
sending an Olympic team
to Moscow.
2156
01:30:25,066 --> 01:30:27,833
[ Applause ]
2157
01:30:27,833 --> 01:30:30,566
-[Billie] And, of course,
American football player
2158
01:30:30,566 --> 01:30:33,566
Colin Kaepernick,
who took a knee to protest
2159
01:30:33,566 --> 01:30:35,266
police violence.
2160
01:30:35,266 --> 01:30:37,566
Athletes have often
merged their humanity
2161
01:30:37,566 --> 01:30:42,333
with their public position to
massive influence and effect.
2162
01:30:42,333 --> 01:30:45,500
-What gave you the idea,
at the U.S. Open, you know,
2163
01:30:45,500 --> 01:30:46,966
to come up with the mask
2164
01:30:46,966 --> 01:30:50,733
and to really bring attention
to the violence?
2165
01:30:50,733 --> 01:30:53,766
What gave you that strength
to be able to do that?
2166
01:30:53,766 --> 01:30:56,400
-I just remember thinking,
like, my first experience
2167
01:30:56,400 --> 01:30:58,633
watching Trayvon Martin,
2168
01:30:58,633 --> 01:31:00,566
just because I grew up
in Florida,
2169
01:31:00,566 --> 01:31:02,466
so that really hit home a lot.
2170
01:31:02,466 --> 01:31:05,633
I just wanted to use my voice.
2171
01:31:05,633 --> 01:31:07,100
Like, there was a lot
that happened,
2172
01:31:07,100 --> 01:31:09,833
it felt like,
all at one time.
2173
01:31:09,833 --> 01:31:11,566
At the height of
everything happening,
2174
01:31:11,566 --> 01:31:13,566
I remember watching
the basketball games,
2175
01:31:13,566 --> 01:31:16,133
and all of the guys
had stopped playing
2176
01:31:16,133 --> 01:31:20,000
and they had, like,
these huge slogans on the court.
2177
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:22,633
And I remember looking at tennis
and thinking, like,
2178
01:31:22,633 --> 01:31:27,433
"Wow, we're not really doing
as much as we should."
2179
01:31:27,433 --> 01:31:29,033
At the time,
I didn't know I had a voice,
2180
01:31:29,033 --> 01:31:30,566
I didn't know
what was gonna happen,
2181
01:31:30,566 --> 01:31:32,533
but if one person
could see it, then --
2182
01:31:32,533 --> 01:31:35,566
-[ Laughs ] Millions.
-Yeah.
2183
01:31:35,566 --> 01:31:38,133
-[Billie] Naomi broadcasted
that Black Lives Matter
2184
01:31:38,133 --> 01:31:40,533
as she pursued her
third Grand Slam victory
2185
01:31:40,533 --> 01:31:43,133
at the 2020 U.S. Open.
2186
01:31:43,133 --> 01:31:46,300
Throughout the tournament,
she sported custom black masks,
2187
01:31:46,300 --> 01:31:48,200
each bearing the name of someone
2188
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:50,733
who was killed in
a racist attack --
2189
01:31:50,733 --> 01:31:53,466
Breonna Taylor, Elijah McClain,
2190
01:31:53,466 --> 01:31:55,200
Ahmaud Arbery,
2191
01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:56,433
Trayvon Martin,
2192
01:31:56,433 --> 01:31:57,766
George Floyd,
2193
01:31:57,766 --> 01:32:01,433
Philando Castile,
and Tamir Rice.
2194
01:32:01,433 --> 01:32:04,300
She wore seven masks
with seven names
2195
01:32:04,300 --> 01:32:07,166
over seven matches
to raise awareness
2196
01:32:07,166 --> 01:32:09,266
and start conversations.
2197
01:32:09,266 --> 01:32:12,933
And that's exactly what she did
when she won that year.
2198
01:32:12,933 --> 01:32:17,466
-I was inspired by it
and I want to say thank you,
2199
01:32:17,466 --> 01:32:20,166
because some of us don't
have the strength.
2200
01:32:20,166 --> 01:32:22,966
-Aww, thank you.
-Yeah, amazing.
2201
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:27,600
-After all these years
of advocating for equality,
2202
01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:29,866
if there is one thing I know
2203
01:32:29,866 --> 01:32:32,933
is that real people
drive change
2204
01:32:32,933 --> 01:32:37,300
and one person can
inspire thousands.
2205
01:32:37,300 --> 01:32:39,766
A lot of athletes discover
they have to be willing
2206
01:32:39,766 --> 01:32:44,066
to become the vehicle for change
or improve conditions,
2207
01:32:44,066 --> 01:32:47,133
and that is leadership.
2208
01:32:47,133 --> 01:32:50,100
-The thing that makes me
a bit crazy is that
2209
01:32:50,100 --> 01:32:51,966
it still has to be the players
2210
01:32:51,966 --> 01:32:54,000
that initiate this in
anything, right?
2211
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:55,900
For women's soccer,
it's still the players
2212
01:32:55,900 --> 01:32:57,133
having to fight for it.
2213
01:32:57,133 --> 01:32:58,566
For WNBA,
it's still the players.
2214
01:32:58,566 --> 01:33:01,033
For whatever sport you're in,
2215
01:33:01,033 --> 01:33:02,900
the players are having
to say, "Come on."
2216
01:33:02,900 --> 01:33:04,766
-I mean, even for us, like...
-Yeah.
2217
01:33:04,766 --> 01:33:07,133
-That's something that, like,
a lot of athletes don't realize,
2218
01:33:07,133 --> 01:33:10,800
is, like, you're the ones
actually doing the sport
2219
01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:13,233
and, like, you're the one
that has to, like, speak up.
2220
01:33:13,233 --> 01:33:16,133
-Yeah, which is hard, though.
-Yeah.
2221
01:33:16,133 --> 01:33:19,533
-Because y-- one, you're
afraid of getting cut, right?
2222
01:33:19,533 --> 01:33:22,033
-Yes, I'm terrified.
-Yeah, you're terrified.
2223
01:33:22,033 --> 01:33:24,533
Like, "Well, I don't wanna
miss out on an Olympics
2224
01:33:24,533 --> 01:33:26,566
or a World Championship
or a World Cup."
2225
01:33:26,566 --> 01:33:29,366
And that's where that moment
2226
01:33:29,366 --> 01:33:32,866
of Billie Jean saying,
"No, you have the power,
2227
01:33:32,866 --> 01:33:35,066
and if you get
the whole team together,
2228
01:33:35,066 --> 01:33:36,933
they're not gonna cut you."
2229
01:33:36,933 --> 01:33:39,933
-[Naomi] I know that
Venus did a lot, as well,
2230
01:33:39,933 --> 01:33:42,100
in the fight for equal pay,
2231
01:33:42,100 --> 01:33:45,033
and that's something that I'll
always be grateful for her to,
2232
01:33:45,033 --> 01:33:48,800
because I don't think people
know that, necessarily,
2233
01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:52,533
but she'll always want
to fight for the players,
2234
01:33:52,533 --> 01:33:54,800
and I think that that's
really incredible.
2235
01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:56,966
-The road to equal pay
in women's tennis
2236
01:33:56,966 --> 01:33:58,900
continues to be a rocky one.
2237
01:33:58,900 --> 01:34:02,333
In 1973, I helped push
the U.S. Open to award
2238
01:34:02,333 --> 01:34:04,200
equal prize money to women.
2239
01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:06,766
But it would take 11 more years
2240
01:34:06,766 --> 01:34:08,700
for the Australian Open
to get on board
2241
01:34:08,700 --> 01:34:11,000
and 34 more years
2242
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:15,466
before Wimbledon and
the French Open followed suit.
2243
01:34:15,466 --> 01:34:17,766
Ultimately, it was
Venus Williams who said,
2244
01:34:17,766 --> 01:34:19,700
"Enough is enough."
2245
01:34:21,566 --> 01:34:25,600
In 2000, Venus won Wimbledon
women's championship title,
2246
01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:27,066
and just one day later,
2247
01:34:27,066 --> 01:34:29,166
Pete Sampras won
the men's title.
2248
01:34:29,166 --> 01:34:32,100
But Pete earned $20,000 more.
2249
01:34:32,100 --> 01:34:33,933
The pay discrepancy
for the same title
2250
01:34:33,933 --> 01:34:37,233
at the same event
made no sense to Venus.
2251
01:34:37,233 --> 01:34:39,833
She was determined,
and nothing less than
2252
01:34:39,833 --> 01:34:42,100
full equality would do.
2253
01:34:42,100 --> 01:34:45,233
In 2005, the night before
she played and won
2254
01:34:45,233 --> 01:34:47,566
that year's Wimbledon,
Venus spoke before
2255
01:34:47,566 --> 01:34:49,000
the Grand Slam Committee
2256
01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:51,566
and laid out her case for
equal prize money.
2257
01:34:51,566 --> 01:34:53,233
But when nothing changed,
2258
01:34:53,233 --> 01:34:55,900
in 2006, Venus wrote a column
2259
01:34:55,900 --> 01:34:58,600
in the U.K. newspaper
The Times.
2260
01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:02,666
Williams wrote, "Wimbledon
has sent me a message.
2261
01:35:02,666 --> 01:35:05,633
I am only
a second-class champion.
2262
01:35:05,633 --> 01:35:08,633
The message I'd like to convey
to women and girls across
2263
01:35:08,633 --> 01:35:11,800
the globe is that there
is no glass ceiling.
2264
01:35:11,800 --> 01:35:14,033
My fear is that Wimbledon
2265
01:35:14,033 --> 01:35:18,300
is loudly and clearly
sending the opposite message."
2266
01:35:18,300 --> 01:35:20,633
Venus' words finally
broke through,
2267
01:35:20,633 --> 01:35:23,200
and the following February,
Wimbledon announced it
2268
01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:24,966
would offer equal prize money
2269
01:35:24,966 --> 01:35:28,300
for the first time in
its 130-year history.
2270
01:35:28,300 --> 01:35:32,833
And in 2007, when Williams
won Wimbledon again,
2271
01:35:32,833 --> 01:35:36,166
she became the first woman
to collect an equal-sized check
2272
01:35:36,166 --> 01:35:38,666
as her male counterpart.
2273
01:35:38,666 --> 01:35:40,600
Responding to
the changing times,
2274
01:35:40,600 --> 01:35:43,633
the French Open joined
Wimbledon the same year
2275
01:35:43,633 --> 01:35:45,600
and offered equal prize money.
2276
01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:47,866
But they were the last
Grand Slam tennis tournament
2277
01:35:47,866 --> 01:35:49,700
to do so.
2278
01:35:49,700 --> 01:35:54,400
Equal prize money may seem
simple, logical, and fair now,
2279
01:35:54,400 --> 01:35:58,800
but it took 34 years to achieve
that parity in women's tennis.
2280
01:35:58,800 --> 01:36:01,633
And it took Venus'
persistent efforts
2281
01:36:01,633 --> 01:36:03,966
to finally make it happen.
2282
01:36:03,966 --> 01:36:06,233
-To me, I'm always thinking,
like, "Wow.
2283
01:36:06,233 --> 01:36:08,033
I hope, like, you know,
maybe one day,
2284
01:36:08,033 --> 01:36:10,300
I can help
other players like that, too."
2285
01:36:10,300 --> 01:36:14,366
-But your voice give others
the voice, too, to stand up.
2286
01:36:14,366 --> 01:36:19,766
When you're talking about
a sport that is privileged,
2287
01:36:19,766 --> 01:36:22,700
you know, and you all
are standing up
2288
01:36:22,700 --> 01:36:26,400
and fighting for those
who can't fight for themselves.
2289
01:36:28,566 --> 01:36:31,733
-[Julie] I think our success
came from a place of
2290
01:36:31,733 --> 01:36:34,133
we just want what's
better for the sport,
2291
01:36:34,133 --> 01:36:36,200
not for what you're
gonna gain out of this,
2292
01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:38,800
because in the end,
it's really for the next group.
2293
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:40,333
What do you want for them?
2294
01:36:40,333 --> 01:36:43,266
-Like, one thing I, like,
stand by is, like,
2295
01:36:43,266 --> 01:36:45,366
leaving it better than
I found it.
2296
01:36:45,366 --> 01:36:46,900
-Yeah.
-Yeah.
2297
01:36:46,900 --> 01:36:51,466
-You know, we actually made it
a team rule that
2298
01:36:51,466 --> 01:36:54,266
when the captains
would go in for meetings,
2299
01:36:54,266 --> 01:36:57,200
so me and Carla Overbeck
at the time,
2300
01:36:57,200 --> 01:36:59,366
we would bring in
a middle generation
2301
01:36:59,366 --> 01:37:01,133
and a younger generation,
as well.
2302
01:37:01,133 --> 01:37:02,766
So if we were the veterans,
2303
01:37:02,766 --> 01:37:04,333
we'd always bring in,
like, younger people.
2304
01:37:04,333 --> 01:37:05,433
-Mm-hmm.
2305
01:37:05,433 --> 01:37:06,766
-So, my role now is, I've gotta
2306
01:37:06,766 --> 01:37:08,433
mentor you to carry this over
the line, eventually.
2307
01:37:08,433 --> 01:37:09,733
-Yes.
2308
01:37:09,733 --> 01:37:11,866
-And what's great is,
you know, we say, "Keep running.
2309
01:37:11,866 --> 01:37:14,233
You keep running. You sprint."
2310
01:37:14,233 --> 01:37:16,066
And they just took off, right?
2311
01:37:17,366 --> 01:37:19,666
-[Nancy]
I'm really super proud of you.
2312
01:37:19,666 --> 01:37:22,133
I've watched you,
I've seen you perform,
2313
01:37:22,133 --> 01:37:26,200
I've seen you on the podium,
and, like, I didn't know you,
2314
01:37:26,200 --> 01:37:27,900
but I was really,
really proud of you.
2315
01:37:27,900 --> 01:37:29,966
Like, I hope you make
a billion dollars.
2316
01:37:29,966 --> 01:37:32,166
-Thank you.
-I really do.
2317
01:37:32,166 --> 01:37:34,000
If you make a billion,
somebody else is gonna
2318
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:35,133
make $2 billion.
2319
01:37:35,133 --> 01:37:36,400
-Yes.
2320
01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:39,100
-There's a 3-year-old
who's gonna do what you do
2321
01:37:39,100 --> 01:37:40,933
because you set the plate
for greatness,
2322
01:37:40,933 --> 01:37:43,166
for endorsements,
for opportunities.
2323
01:37:43,166 --> 01:37:45,233
-It's really cool
seeing it happen.
2324
01:37:45,233 --> 01:37:48,433
I'm not competing this season,
but there's three young girls,
2325
01:37:48,433 --> 01:37:50,866
all of them watched me
growing up,
2326
01:37:50,866 --> 01:37:52,333
and they are killing it.
2327
01:37:52,333 --> 01:37:54,266
And they have
so many opportunities.
2328
01:37:54,266 --> 01:37:56,400
Like, all these brands
are sponsoring them.
2329
01:37:56,400 --> 01:37:57,933
And, you know, I've already
gotten so many questions,
2330
01:37:57,933 --> 01:37:59,500
like, "Oh, are you nervous?
2331
01:37:59,500 --> 01:38:01,200
Are you scared that you're
gonna get overthrown?"
2332
01:38:01,200 --> 01:38:02,866
I hope so!
2333
01:38:02,866 --> 01:38:05,500
-Right, it's --
-I hope these young girls
2334
01:38:05,500 --> 01:38:09,366
surpass me one day, and they
probably will very soon.
2335
01:38:09,366 --> 01:38:11,266
But it's not --
I'm not angry about it.
2336
01:38:11,266 --> 01:38:12,933
I'm not nervous about it.
This is what I want.
2337
01:38:12,933 --> 01:38:14,633
This is what I worked for.
2338
01:38:14,633 --> 01:38:16,766
I wanted young girls to see
2339
01:38:16,766 --> 01:38:18,800
that anything was possible
for them.
2340
01:38:18,800 --> 01:38:21,000
-So, you know
you're a pioneer, right?
2341
01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:23,400
A pioneer doesn't
have to be 64.
2342
01:38:23,400 --> 01:38:26,066
A pioneer can be 22,
2343
01:38:26,066 --> 01:38:30,066
because it's the evolution
of where the game is now,
2344
01:38:30,066 --> 01:38:31,900
where the sport is now.
2345
01:38:31,900 --> 01:38:34,433
So you're setting the plate
2346
01:38:34,433 --> 01:38:38,000
for the next generation
and the next generation.
2347
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:40,233
-[Billie] Each generation
builds on the progress
2348
01:38:40,233 --> 01:38:42,066
of the previous generation,
2349
01:38:42,066 --> 01:38:45,833
and the U.S. soccer team is
living proof of that progress.
2350
01:38:45,833 --> 01:38:48,233
Their determination
and perseverance
2351
01:38:48,233 --> 01:38:50,833
changed the game
for soccer in America
2352
01:38:50,833 --> 01:38:54,500
from an unknown,
unrecognized 1991 team
2353
01:38:54,500 --> 01:38:58,400
to the strategic powerhouse
of the 2017 team.
2354
01:38:58,400 --> 01:39:00,933
The women of soccer
worked together
2355
01:39:00,933 --> 01:39:03,133
to finally demand equal pay.
2356
01:39:03,133 --> 01:39:06,433
On International Women's Day
in March 2019,
2357
01:39:06,433 --> 01:39:09,300
the United States Women's
National Soccer Team
2358
01:39:09,300 --> 01:39:12,300
shocked the world when they
announced that they were suing
2359
01:39:12,300 --> 01:39:15,633
their employers for
gender discrimination.
2360
01:39:15,633 --> 01:39:19,300
It was a bold, history-making
move that set off a firestorm
2361
01:39:19,300 --> 01:39:21,400
in the wider world of sports
2362
01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:23,266
and drew international
attention,
2363
01:39:23,266 --> 01:39:25,700
prompting fans
to chant "Equal pay!"
2364
01:39:25,700 --> 01:39:28,900
when the U.S. team won
the Women's World Cup final
2365
01:39:28,900 --> 01:39:30,200
in France that year.
2366
01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:32,166
-The strength of unequal pay
2367
01:39:32,166 --> 01:39:34,100
rests on the notion
of unequal value.
2368
01:39:34,100 --> 01:39:36,433
-[Billie] Players were
asking to be paid the same
2369
01:39:36,433 --> 01:39:39,066
as their male counterparts,
even though their team
2370
01:39:39,066 --> 01:39:41,633
was performing
better than the men's.
2371
01:39:41,633 --> 01:39:43,900
The women's soccer team
had better success
2372
01:39:43,900 --> 01:39:46,266
at the World Cup
and at the Olympics,
2373
01:39:46,266 --> 01:39:48,566
another event they'd
won four times
2374
01:39:48,566 --> 01:39:50,400
to the men's team's zero times.
2375
01:39:50,400 --> 01:39:52,566
-[Megan Rapinoe] I've helped,
along with all my teammates,
2376
01:39:52,566 --> 01:39:54,566
win four World Cup championships
2377
01:39:54,566 --> 01:39:57,766
and four Olympic gold medals
for the United States.
2378
01:39:57,766 --> 01:40:01,433
And despite those wins,
I've been devalued,
2379
01:40:01,433 --> 01:40:03,700
I've been disrespected,
2380
01:40:03,700 --> 01:40:06,233
and dismissed because
I am a woman.
2381
01:40:06,233 --> 01:40:09,400
And I've been told that I
don't deserve any more
2382
01:40:09,400 --> 01:40:11,866
than less because I am a woman.
2383
01:40:11,866 --> 01:40:15,266
-[Billie] The team generated
more revenue than the men.
2384
01:40:15,266 --> 01:40:19,400
They played in worse conditions,
but ultimately won more games.
2385
01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:22,900
But the men's side got more
money to show up for games,
2386
01:40:22,900 --> 01:40:24,833
more money when they'd win,
2387
01:40:24,833 --> 01:40:27,566
more money when they qualified
for the World Cup,
2388
01:40:27,566 --> 01:40:29,966
and even more money
once they got there.
2389
01:40:29,966 --> 01:40:33,033
The men also received
five-star hotels,
2390
01:40:33,033 --> 01:40:35,766
charter flights,
marketing, training,
2391
01:40:35,766 --> 01:40:37,533
and better fields.
2392
01:40:37,533 --> 01:40:40,833
Finally, in February 2022,
2393
01:40:40,833 --> 01:40:42,500
the two sides settled
the lawsuit,
2394
01:40:42,500 --> 01:40:44,900
and U.S. Soccer
agreed to pay the women
2395
01:40:44,900 --> 01:40:48,233
a record $22 million
in back pay.
2396
01:40:49,066 --> 01:40:52,166
The new agreement ensures
that, for the first time,
2397
01:40:52,166 --> 01:40:54,900
true pay equity has been
achieved in the sport
2398
01:40:54,900 --> 01:40:56,533
on a national level.
2399
01:40:56,533 --> 01:40:59,633
-Equal work deserves
equal pay.
2400
01:40:59,633 --> 01:41:01,566
-[Billie] The men and women's
sides will receive
2401
01:41:01,566 --> 01:41:04,333
equal appearance fees
and match bonuses,
2402
01:41:04,333 --> 01:41:05,633
equal revenue from
2403
01:41:05,633 --> 01:41:07,500
the ticket sales
and merchandise,
2404
01:41:07,500 --> 01:41:10,300
equal playing conditions,
travel arrangements,
2405
01:41:10,300 --> 01:41:11,633
training facilities,
2406
01:41:11,633 --> 01:41:13,566
and, most notably,
they'll split their
2407
01:41:13,566 --> 01:41:15,933
FIFA World Cup
prize money equally.
2408
01:41:15,933 --> 01:41:19,200
They are the first national team
to achieve this
2409
01:41:19,200 --> 01:41:20,866
in the history of the sport,
2410
01:41:20,866 --> 01:41:23,300
and it is inspiring
other athletes
2411
01:41:23,300 --> 01:41:25,300
in other sports
to know their worth
2412
01:41:25,300 --> 01:41:27,466
and fight for it.
2413
01:41:27,466 --> 01:41:29,866
Boys are taught to be brave,
2414
01:41:29,866 --> 01:41:31,400
and girls are taught
to be perfect.
2415
01:41:31,400 --> 01:41:32,633
-Right.
2416
01:41:32,633 --> 01:41:34,266
-And that's where a lot
of our self-confidence --
2417
01:41:34,266 --> 01:41:36,466
lack of self confidence --
comes from,
2418
01:41:36,466 --> 01:41:39,133
because nobody can be perfect.
2419
01:41:39,133 --> 01:41:40,966
And to the men and boys,
2420
01:41:40,966 --> 01:41:42,300
you can't be brave
all the time,
2421
01:41:42,300 --> 01:41:44,133
and that's not right either.
2422
01:41:44,133 --> 01:41:47,000
So it's -- We've gotta be
socialized differently.
2423
01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:49,333
But women's sports
is allowing girls
2424
01:41:49,333 --> 01:41:51,266
to be socialized differently.
2425
01:41:51,266 --> 01:41:53,966
Girls are taught not to ask
for what we want and need.
2426
01:41:53,966 --> 01:41:55,000
-Mm-hmm.
2427
01:41:55,000 --> 01:41:56,833
-Ask for what you
want and need.
2428
01:41:56,833 --> 01:41:59,133
-Show up.
-Show up, right.
2429
01:41:59,133 --> 01:42:01,033
Gotta show up and speak up.
2430
01:42:01,033 --> 01:42:03,000
[ Upbeat music ]
2431
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:05,366
-When I talk to my son, TJ,
2432
01:42:05,366 --> 01:42:07,733
who's 28, and he's
a professional athlete,
2433
01:42:07,733 --> 01:42:11,200
he'll say to me, "Mom,
sometimes you're so aggressive."
2434
01:42:11,200 --> 01:42:14,433
And I said, "TJ,
I had to be aggressive
2435
01:42:14,433 --> 01:42:18,366
for the next generation of women
2436
01:42:18,366 --> 01:42:21,533
so they could be
at peace to do their job."
2437
01:42:21,533 --> 01:42:24,900
My personality is strong,
2438
01:42:24,900 --> 01:42:27,733
and I don't think,
in many cases,
2439
01:42:27,733 --> 01:42:31,366
I should be told not
to have a strong personality
2440
01:42:31,366 --> 01:42:33,433
or strong belief system,
2441
01:42:33,433 --> 01:42:36,233
because men who have
a strong belief system
2442
01:42:36,233 --> 01:42:37,700
are shining stars.
2443
01:42:37,700 --> 01:42:39,166
They're silver bullets.
2444
01:42:39,166 --> 01:42:43,533
And we women who are strong or
say, "I'm gonna win the gold,"
2445
01:42:43,533 --> 01:42:46,366
"Oh, my gosh, she's --
What an egomaniac."
2446
01:42:46,366 --> 01:42:48,233
No, you feel that you're
going to win the gold.
2447
01:42:48,233 --> 01:42:49,333
-Mm-hmm.
2448
01:42:49,333 --> 01:42:51,633
-I feel that I can win
a championship.
2449
01:42:51,633 --> 01:42:53,300
If somebody said,
"Chloe, Nancy,
2450
01:42:53,300 --> 01:42:55,233
are you guys great at what
you did or what you do?",
2451
01:42:55,233 --> 01:42:58,400
and I would say "yes."
2452
01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:01,000
Why would I say "no"?
2453
01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:03,166
But some people
take offense to that.
2454
01:43:03,166 --> 01:43:06,733
Like, "How arrogant are they?"
And that's what bothers me.
2455
01:43:06,733 --> 01:43:09,633
Accomplished women
in business, in sports,
2456
01:43:09,633 --> 01:43:11,866
in life, they're so arrogant.
2457
01:43:11,866 --> 01:43:13,733
Why can't we just be
we're such achievers
2458
01:43:13,733 --> 01:43:16,133
because we work so hard?
2459
01:43:16,133 --> 01:43:17,700
-[Chloe] It didn't
come easy to me.
2460
01:43:17,700 --> 01:43:19,766
I put in the blood,
sweat, and tears to get there.
2461
01:43:19,766 --> 01:43:21,633
-[Nancy] And sacrifice.
-And sacrifice.
2462
01:43:21,633 --> 01:43:23,200
I sacrificed
most of my childhood.
2463
01:43:23,200 --> 01:43:24,833
I didn't go to school.
I was homeschooled.
2464
01:43:24,833 --> 01:43:27,600
I finished high school in
two and a half, three years
2465
01:43:27,600 --> 01:43:29,266
so that I could focus on
the Olympics.
2466
01:43:29,266 --> 01:43:31,833
I hustled, so, yeah,
I'm going to be confident.
2467
01:43:31,833 --> 01:43:34,633
I'm going to think I'm...
I'm the best because I am.
2468
01:43:34,633 --> 01:43:36,366
I worked to be the best.
2469
01:43:36,366 --> 01:43:38,300
And that's why
we're here today.
2470
01:43:38,300 --> 01:43:40,200
[ Upbeat music ]
2471
01:43:40,200 --> 01:43:43,400
-[Billie] For this generation,
working to be the best in
2472
01:43:43,400 --> 01:43:46,300
the world is starting
to pay off financially,
2473
01:43:46,300 --> 01:43:48,800
and the media
is finally catching on
2474
01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:52,233
to just how popular women's
sports can be.
2475
01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:56,200
The thing where all the money
is today is media rights,
2476
01:43:56,200 --> 01:43:58,533
and men have
all the media rights,
2477
01:43:58,533 --> 01:44:00,266
not women's sports.
2478
01:44:00,266 --> 01:44:05,166
Women's basketball at the NCAA
they used to throw in as free.
2479
01:44:05,166 --> 01:44:06,966
This year, for the first time,
they're gonna start really
2480
01:44:06,966 --> 01:44:09,500
trying to get media rights,
2481
01:44:09,500 --> 01:44:11,566
and the interest is just going
through the roof.
2482
01:44:11,566 --> 01:44:14,333
They have never really gone out
and tried to sell media rights
2483
01:44:14,333 --> 01:44:16,700
for the women's basketball
on its own.
2484
01:44:16,700 --> 01:44:18,700
-Forever, we have said
2485
01:44:18,700 --> 01:44:21,966
that you're missing out on
all this potential.
2486
01:44:21,966 --> 01:44:23,366
There's all these fans out there
2487
01:44:23,366 --> 01:44:26,366
that would consume it if you
actually put it out there.
2488
01:44:26,366 --> 01:44:28,700
And I know I'm not the only
athlete that's said that.
2489
01:44:28,700 --> 01:44:30,533
Every sport
has said that, right?
2490
01:44:30,533 --> 01:44:32,833
Going back to my generation of,
"Why aren't we covering this?
2491
01:44:32,833 --> 01:44:34,666
Why aren't you
showing this on TV?
2492
01:44:34,666 --> 01:44:36,833
Put it on a, you know, a slot
where people will watch it.
2493
01:44:36,833 --> 01:44:38,766
Put it on a network
where people will watch it."
2494
01:44:38,766 --> 01:44:41,500
And, you know,
the '99 World Cup
2495
01:44:41,500 --> 01:44:43,700
showed when you actually
put it on TV and
2496
01:44:43,700 --> 01:44:46,500
you go to big stadiums
and you market it
2497
01:44:46,500 --> 01:44:49,700
and you water the garden,
it actually blooms, right?
2498
01:44:49,700 --> 01:44:51,366
People will show up.
-Yes.
2499
01:44:51,366 --> 01:44:53,533
-It's this amazing effect
of when you market it
2500
01:44:53,533 --> 01:44:55,833
and pay attention to something,
people come.
2501
01:44:55,833 --> 01:44:59,733
I saw a video of you, um,
performing a perfect 10,
2502
01:44:59,733 --> 01:45:02,233
and you, like,
stuck this landing.
2503
01:45:02,233 --> 01:45:03,733
-[Announcer] She has
the technique,
2504
01:45:03,733 --> 01:45:06,466
the difficulty,
the superb amplitude.
2505
01:45:06,466 --> 01:45:07,900
What does she not have?
2506
01:45:07,900 --> 01:45:09,266
-[Announcer 2]
She has more difficulty
2507
01:45:09,266 --> 01:45:10,900
than everybody put together.
2508
01:45:10,900 --> 01:45:12,900
In a class all by itself.
2509
01:45:12,900 --> 01:45:15,266
[ Crowd cheering ]
2510
01:45:15,266 --> 01:45:18,100
-[Announcer]
Put your pencils down, Judges.
2511
01:45:18,100 --> 01:45:20,366
-[Julie] It's a huge gym.
How many can you fit there?
2512
01:45:20,366 --> 01:45:23,466
-I think it holds about
like 10,000?
2513
01:45:23,466 --> 01:45:26,166
-Yeah, it was packed,
and the place just roared.
2514
01:45:26,166 --> 01:45:27,500
-[ Laughs ]
2515
01:45:27,500 --> 01:45:30,733
-So that potential we've known
for so long is there.
2516
01:45:30,733 --> 01:45:35,633
It's interesting to me that it's
now exploding in every sport.
2517
01:45:35,633 --> 01:45:38,466
As you were saying, Auburn --
packed stadiums, right?
2518
01:45:38,466 --> 01:45:41,400
WNBA, we're seeing
large numbers.
2519
01:45:41,400 --> 01:45:43,800
NWSL ownership
going through the roof
2520
01:45:43,800 --> 01:45:45,900
in terms of numbers
and attendance.
2521
01:45:45,900 --> 01:45:48,400
Women's soccer, I mean,
all these different sports.
2522
01:45:48,400 --> 01:45:50,400
March Madness,
their basketball numbers.
2523
01:45:50,400 --> 01:45:52,933
-Yeah.
-9.9 million. It's crazy.
2524
01:45:52,933 --> 01:45:54,400
-It's really incredible
to see, like,
2525
01:45:54,400 --> 01:45:56,400
the evolution of all of it.
2526
01:45:56,400 --> 01:45:58,433
And I think I'm more excited
because it's only going to
2527
01:45:58,433 --> 01:46:00,466
continue to get better.
-Oh, yeah.
2528
01:46:00,466 --> 01:46:02,966
It's gonna be changed in
so many different fronts
2529
01:46:02,966 --> 01:46:06,733
in terms of support
and attendance
2530
01:46:06,733 --> 01:46:08,866
and viewership,
and all those numbers
2531
01:46:08,866 --> 01:46:12,166
are all toggling in this, like,
skyrocketing fashion.
2532
01:46:12,166 --> 01:46:13,866
It's going to be fun
for you guys.
2533
01:46:13,866 --> 01:46:16,533
I'm fascinated,
all of the NIL stuff,
2534
01:46:16,533 --> 01:46:18,800
name, image, and likeness,
that's happening
2535
01:46:18,800 --> 01:46:20,900
with college athletes
and their ability, finally,
2536
01:46:20,900 --> 01:46:24,533
to make money, men and women,
and how that affects you.
2537
01:46:24,533 --> 01:46:26,966
-It definitely
has impacted a lot,
2538
01:46:26,966 --> 01:46:31,033
because I wouldn't be in college
right now if it wasn't for NIL.
2539
01:46:31,033 --> 01:46:34,166
-[Billie] In the simplest
of terms, NIL,
2540
01:46:34,166 --> 01:46:37,566
name, image, and likeness,
describes how college athletes
2541
01:46:37,566 --> 01:46:40,666
are allowed to receive financial
compensation.
2542
01:46:40,666 --> 01:46:43,333
It is the workaround
for athletes to get paid
2543
01:46:43,333 --> 01:46:44,966
without technically
being considered
2544
01:46:44,966 --> 01:46:46,800
"professional athletes."
2545
01:46:46,800 --> 01:46:50,800
NCAA rules still prevent schools
from paying players directly,
2546
01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:53,333
but they can receive
gifts from boosters,
2547
01:46:53,333 --> 01:46:56,666
make deals with companies,
and endorse products.
2548
01:46:56,666 --> 01:46:59,500
The new guidelines provide
a loose gray area
2549
01:46:59,500 --> 01:47:03,033
that is still being interpreted
by lawyers and athletes alike.
2550
01:47:03,033 --> 01:47:05,633
As of now, the NCAA has stated
2551
01:47:05,633 --> 01:47:07,700
that the current rules
are temporary
2552
01:47:07,700 --> 01:47:09,866
until Congress
creates national laws
2553
01:47:09,866 --> 01:47:12,600
and regulations around NIL.
2554
01:47:12,600 --> 01:47:15,533
Although NIL was initially
thought to mostly benefit
2555
01:47:15,533 --> 01:47:17,766
male athletes,
the female athletes have
2556
01:47:17,766 --> 01:47:20,400
benefited even more,
with Olivia Dunne,
2557
01:47:20,400 --> 01:47:25,100
an LSU gymnast, topping the list
of highest-paid NIL earners.
2558
01:47:25,100 --> 01:47:29,466
These new rules have created
a modern-day Wild West situation
2559
01:47:29,466 --> 01:47:30,866
with everyone looking to find
2560
01:47:30,866 --> 01:47:33,566
where exactly the line
in the sand is
2561
01:47:33,566 --> 01:47:36,400
and what might happen
when they cross it.
2562
01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:38,266
It's no longer
a question ofshould
2563
01:47:38,266 --> 01:47:41,166
college athletes be paid,
buthow.
2564
01:47:42,566 --> 01:47:44,933
-With the NIL exploding...
2565
01:47:44,933 --> 01:47:46,766
-Mm-hmm.
-...the flip side of it
2566
01:47:46,766 --> 01:47:49,033
is some will say, "Oh, it's
the Wild Wild West," right?
2567
01:47:49,033 --> 01:47:52,133
Like, some athletes are just
choosing universities
2568
01:47:52,133 --> 01:47:53,466
because they're
paying them more.
2569
01:47:53,466 --> 01:47:55,366
-Yeah.
-Do you agree with that?
2570
01:47:55,366 --> 01:47:57,933
Disagree with that? And do you
think that's a downside of it?
2571
01:47:57,933 --> 01:48:01,533
Because you do see some
instances with, for example,
2572
01:48:01,533 --> 01:48:04,766
a male quarterback who,
you know, whatever school
2573
01:48:04,766 --> 01:48:08,600
he's kind of toggling between
is, like, this bidding war,
2574
01:48:08,600 --> 01:48:09,833
which I think takes away some of
2575
01:48:09,833 --> 01:48:11,500
the authenticity around
collegiate sports.
2576
01:48:11,500 --> 01:48:13,966
-Yeah, I definitely think so,
because it's, like, unfair,
2577
01:48:13,966 --> 01:48:15,633
and it can be biased.
2578
01:48:15,633 --> 01:48:17,933
And that's the one thing
I don't like about NIL.
2579
01:48:17,933 --> 01:48:20,100
But, I mean, I wouldn't be
where I am without it.
2580
01:48:20,100 --> 01:48:22,433
-Yeah. I do like that
2581
01:48:22,433 --> 01:48:25,100
that it's given
a lot of -- of women
2582
01:48:25,100 --> 01:48:28,366
the ability to make
a little bit more money,
2583
01:48:28,366 --> 01:48:30,700
especially, you know,
because you have a lot of
2584
01:48:30,700 --> 01:48:34,433
female athletes who are like,
"Should I go pro?"
2585
01:48:34,433 --> 01:48:37,433
And you're seeing that --
You know, before, it was like,
2586
01:48:37,433 --> 01:48:39,333
"Oh, I need to go make
some money.
2587
01:48:39,333 --> 01:48:41,666
If I can get a big deal,
I'm going to leave school,"
2588
01:48:41,666 --> 01:48:43,433
which I never think
is a good idea.
2589
01:48:43,433 --> 01:48:45,266
I would want my kid to finish
school if they could, right?
2590
01:48:45,266 --> 01:48:49,033
You're actually seeing
some athletes stay in longer...
2591
01:48:49,033 --> 01:48:51,433
-Yeah.
-...because they can now make...
2592
01:48:51,433 --> 01:48:53,966
-More money than
even being pro.
2593
01:48:53,966 --> 01:48:55,800
-Yeah, than even being pro.
2594
01:48:55,800 --> 01:48:57,600
And so they stay in
school longer,
2595
01:48:57,600 --> 01:48:59,666
which I -- I don't think there's
a downside to that, right?
2596
01:48:59,666 --> 01:49:01,400
-No.
-And enjoying your...
2597
01:49:01,400 --> 01:49:03,500
-It's actually really
exciting, too, and I think
2598
01:49:03,500 --> 01:49:07,166
it just shines a lot more light
on women's sports in general,
2599
01:49:07,166 --> 01:49:09,300
which is incredible.
2600
01:49:09,300 --> 01:49:11,100
[ Upbeat music ]
2601
01:49:11,100 --> 01:49:13,366
-So, talking about,
like, the progress.
2602
01:49:13,366 --> 01:49:15,600
-Yes?
-Where do you think, like,
2603
01:49:15,600 --> 01:49:19,166
we are standing right now in
terms of what's missing to do?
2604
01:49:19,166 --> 01:49:21,700
What still we have to work on?
2605
01:49:21,700 --> 01:49:24,700
-I think it's gonna take over
150 to 200 years to get equal,
2606
01:49:24,700 --> 01:49:26,666
but every generation has to,
2607
01:49:26,666 --> 01:49:29,100
you know, push
the envelope forward
2608
01:49:29,100 --> 01:49:31,700
and pass the baton forward,
like a relay race.
2609
01:49:31,700 --> 01:49:34,333
Just keep passing
that baton, each generation.
2610
01:49:34,333 --> 01:49:36,233
I always think about that
when I watch a relay.
2611
01:49:36,233 --> 01:49:37,300
That's what they're doing.
2612
01:49:37,300 --> 01:49:38,500
It's like each player that
2613
01:49:38,500 --> 01:49:41,100
gets the baton is
a different generation,
2614
01:49:41,100 --> 01:49:43,166
and the last one's
the last generation,
2615
01:49:43,166 --> 01:49:45,133
but they usually
are the quickest one.
2616
01:49:45,133 --> 01:49:46,933
So we just have to keep pushing.
2617
01:49:49,166 --> 01:49:51,166
-What do you think
the world would look like
2618
01:49:51,166 --> 01:49:53,500
without Title IX?
Scary thought.
2619
01:49:53,500 --> 01:49:57,166
-The world without Title IX
2620
01:49:57,166 --> 01:49:59,666
would not have Chloe Kim
2621
01:49:59,666 --> 01:50:03,766
and Nancy Lieberman sitting in
the same room together.
2622
01:50:03,766 --> 01:50:05,666
It is amazing how many people
2623
01:50:05,666 --> 01:50:08,500
still don't know what
Title IX is.
2624
01:50:08,500 --> 01:50:11,700
Title IX has given us
a chance to shine
2625
01:50:11,700 --> 01:50:13,633
and affect the world.
2626
01:50:13,633 --> 01:50:18,300
Because we're inseparable
in what we're supposed to do,
2627
01:50:18,300 --> 01:50:20,900
it's in your hands.
2628
01:50:20,900 --> 01:50:23,833
-You know, in Mexico,
we do not have yet
2629
01:50:23,833 --> 01:50:25,333
something like Title IX.
2630
01:50:25,333 --> 01:50:27,766
I am so honored and happy
2631
01:50:27,766 --> 01:50:29,666
to be part of a big movement
2632
01:50:29,666 --> 01:50:33,100
of amazing women in Mexico
that truly believes this, too.
2633
01:50:33,100 --> 01:50:38,166
And we haven't had, like,
an opportunity, until now.
2634
01:50:38,166 --> 01:50:41,400
And I received this, uh,
2635
01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:43,600
notice like
three days ago, actually,
2636
01:50:43,600 --> 01:50:46,733
that we're going to have
the opportunity this month
2637
01:50:46,733 --> 01:50:48,966
to present the initiative...
2638
01:50:48,966 --> 01:50:50,833
-You are?
-...to the congress in Mexico.
2639
01:50:50,833 --> 01:50:52,933
-So you or the team or what?
2640
01:50:52,933 --> 01:50:55,666
-It is me, as an ambassador,
2641
01:50:55,666 --> 01:50:58,000
working with amazing women
2642
01:50:58,000 --> 01:51:01,233
involved in sports
also as ambassadors.
2643
01:51:01,233 --> 01:51:03,766
So we are pushing
forward that.
2644
01:51:03,766 --> 01:51:05,666
-Well, congratulations.
That's great.
2645
01:51:05,666 --> 01:51:07,733
What you're doing in Mexico now
2646
01:51:07,733 --> 01:51:10,566
is exactly what we have
to keep doing,
2647
01:51:10,566 --> 01:51:13,133
because you're going to change
the lives of people alive,
2648
01:51:13,133 --> 01:51:15,366
but the babies that
haven't been born yet,
2649
01:51:15,366 --> 01:51:16,800
just think what that's gonna --
2650
01:51:16,800 --> 01:51:18,066
I mean, they'll
just expect it.
2651
01:51:18,066 --> 01:51:19,966
They go, "Oh, yeah, of course."
2652
01:51:19,966 --> 01:51:21,933
Well, somebody
had to pay the price,
2653
01:51:21,933 --> 01:51:23,733
but everybody does that.
2654
01:51:23,733 --> 01:51:25,933
And that's why history's
so important to learn,
2655
01:51:25,933 --> 01:51:27,300
because I stand on
their shoulders,
2656
01:51:27,300 --> 01:51:29,866
and when I learn about
these different women, you know,
2657
01:51:29,866 --> 01:51:31,900
of all colors and religions,
2658
01:51:31,900 --> 01:51:34,066
you know, you really realize
how important what you're doing
2659
01:51:34,066 --> 01:51:37,000
in Mexico is part
of that progress
2660
01:51:37,000 --> 01:51:39,866
and that progression
of getting there.
2661
01:51:39,866 --> 01:51:42,333
-I wanted to give you...
2662
01:51:42,333 --> 01:51:43,766
-Uh-oh.
-...like, a...
2663
01:51:43,766 --> 01:51:45,400
-[ Gasps ]
-...little gift to you.
2664
01:51:45,400 --> 01:51:48,166
-Oh, this is so precious.
-This comes from Mexico.
2665
01:51:48,166 --> 01:51:51,066
It is handmade with our...
-Oh, I love this.
2666
01:51:51,066 --> 01:51:53,066
-Oh, this is great.
And it's a heart.
2667
01:51:53,066 --> 01:51:55,533
-[ Laughs ] It is a heart.
-This is beautiful.
2668
01:51:55,533 --> 01:51:57,800
Thank you so much.
It's so precious.
2669
01:51:57,800 --> 01:52:00,733
Guess what I brought with me.
Remember this?
2670
01:52:00,733 --> 01:52:02,900
-Oh!
-It's flag.
2671
01:52:02,900 --> 01:52:05,066
This is the flag you gave me
from the football.
2672
01:52:05,066 --> 01:52:06,466
You were so sweet.
2673
01:52:06,466 --> 01:52:08,233
Now I've got two gifts,
and I didn't give her anything.
2674
01:52:08,233 --> 01:52:09,500
This is not good.
2675
01:52:09,500 --> 01:52:10,900
Anyway, this --
Remember when you brought this?
2676
01:52:10,900 --> 01:52:12,166
-Yeah.
-And then --
2677
01:52:12,166 --> 01:52:13,633
Because it says "Inspire."
2678
01:52:13,633 --> 01:52:15,633
You said, "Thanks for being
an inspiration,"
2679
01:52:15,633 --> 01:52:17,200
which I was so touched.
2680
01:52:17,200 --> 01:52:19,233
[ Inspiring music ]
2681
01:52:21,200 --> 01:52:24,133
-For me, Title IX is
a step forward
2682
01:52:24,133 --> 01:52:26,633
in the right path,
and I feel like
2683
01:52:26,633 --> 01:52:28,800
we just want to keep
taking steps forward
2684
01:52:28,800 --> 01:52:30,300
for progress.
2685
01:52:30,300 --> 01:52:32,800
-With your platform,
with your voice,
2686
01:52:32,800 --> 01:52:37,400
you leading the way, you know,
our future is in great hands.
2687
01:52:37,400 --> 01:52:40,866
Opportunities like this,
talking about Title IX,
2688
01:52:40,866 --> 01:52:42,900
allow me to be able to meet you,
2689
01:52:42,900 --> 01:52:45,233
and I am so grateful
and so honored.
2690
01:52:46,733 --> 01:52:48,666
[ Inspiring music ]
2691
01:52:51,800 --> 01:52:53,366
-[Nancy] This has been
delightful for me.
2692
01:52:53,366 --> 01:52:55,266
I've had some really great
experiences in my life
2693
01:52:55,266 --> 01:52:57,633
with amazing people,
and this is gonna be
2694
01:52:57,633 --> 01:52:58,800
at the top of the list.
2695
01:52:58,800 --> 01:53:01,800
-I can't wait to hear
about Mexico now.
2696
01:53:01,800 --> 01:53:03,566
That is gonna be so awesome.
2697
01:53:03,566 --> 01:53:05,133
-Great things are yet to come.
2698
01:53:05,133 --> 01:53:06,866
-Oh, you're just
getting started.
2699
01:53:06,866 --> 01:53:08,466
When I first met you,
I could tell within
2700
01:53:08,466 --> 01:53:11,866
one second that you accept
and embrace leadership.
2701
01:53:11,866 --> 01:53:13,800
Your life is just beginning.
2702
01:53:13,800 --> 01:53:16,166
You h-- You're just going to
have the best life, I can tell.
2703
01:53:16,166 --> 01:53:18,266
-I already told you this, but...
2704
01:53:18,266 --> 01:53:19,733
[ Deep breath ]
2705
01:53:19,733 --> 01:53:23,100
...you are truly
an inspiration to me.
2706
01:53:23,100 --> 01:53:26,600
-Thank you.
-You have empowered me.
2707
01:53:26,600 --> 01:53:30,700
You have filled my heart
with this fire and power
2708
01:53:30,700 --> 01:53:33,100
to keep going
and to be aware that
2709
01:53:33,100 --> 01:53:36,866
what we do has a bigger impact
than ourselves.
2710
01:53:36,866 --> 01:53:37,966
-Yes.
2711
01:53:37,966 --> 01:53:40,800
-That is everything
is for the future
2712
01:53:40,800 --> 01:53:43,066
and the ones
that are coming behind us.
2713
01:53:43,066 --> 01:53:45,033
So I want to thank you for that.
2714
01:53:45,033 --> 01:53:47,066
-I appreciate that.
-Thank you for everything
2715
01:53:47,066 --> 01:53:49,266
you have done
for women in sports,
2716
01:53:49,266 --> 01:53:52,800
but for women in general
and for people.
2717
01:53:52,800 --> 01:53:54,600
-Thank you.
2718
01:53:54,600 --> 01:53:58,066
-♪ Hold on just
one more day ♪
2719
01:53:58,066 --> 01:54:00,666
♪ Hold on... ♪
2720
01:54:00,666 --> 01:54:02,800
-[Billie] Title IX
and the pursuit of equality
2721
01:54:02,800 --> 01:54:05,266
is my enduring legacy.
2722
01:54:05,266 --> 01:54:07,933
It's not only
athletes or legislators
2723
01:54:07,933 --> 01:54:10,300
who are the guardians
of Title IX.
2724
01:54:10,300 --> 01:54:13,100
It's all of us
who share this country.
2725
01:54:13,100 --> 01:54:15,533
While, at times, it's been slow,
2726
01:54:15,533 --> 01:54:17,733
we have, indeed, made progress
2727
01:54:17,733 --> 01:54:20,666
and we have, indeed,
broken down barriers,
2728
01:54:20,666 --> 01:54:24,366
on the court and off.
2729
01:54:24,366 --> 01:54:25,900
[ Upbeat music ]
2730
01:54:25,900 --> 01:54:29,100
That's how you make change.
2731
01:54:29,100 --> 01:54:32,833
And we'll keep doing it
for generations to come.
2732
01:54:32,833 --> 01:54:34,733
[ Upbeat music ]
2733
01:55:02,266 --> 01:55:04,166
-To order "Groundbreakers"
on DVD,
2734
01:55:04,166 --> 01:55:07,333
visit Shop PBS or call
1-800-PLAY-PBS.
2735
01:55:07,333 --> 01:55:10,633
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2736
01:55:10,633 --> 01:55:12,300
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