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[low humming tones]
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[woman screaming]
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♪
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- When you say
"slasher movies,"
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that's when the killer
became the star.
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- Don't go in there!
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- "Halloween," it happens
to be the Cadillac
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of slasher movies.
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- You don't know what it is...
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- [screams]
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- That makes
Michael Myers go, "Her!"
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- "Psycho" was the first time
I was aware of the editing.
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- The assembly
of pieces of film...
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- [screaming]
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- To create fright.
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- "Texas Chainsaw Massacre"
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is one of the most
important movies.
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- That ratchets up horror
to a whole other level.
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- That's the one
that defined me.
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- Sometimes you just want
to sit down and watch Jason
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take out a lot
of stupid teenagers.
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- There are a number
of pictures where you're able
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to actually take your deepest,
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most antisocial impulses
for a walk.
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- "Horror" became a dirty word
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in the late '70s, early '80s.
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- These films hate women.
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- 55% of that audience
was women.
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- They're the final girls.
That's who you identify with.
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- [laughing hysterically]
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[chilling string music]
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♪
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[low tones ringing]
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- There's the moment
in "Halloween"
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where I'm standing behind...
[laughing] This house.
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I don't know anybody yet.
I'm 19 years old,
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and saying to myself,
"What am I doing?
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How do I do this?"
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And then you hear,
"All right, everybody.
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"Here we go, we're rolling!
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Cameras rolling!"
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And I have to start screaming.
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And I had never screamed
in my life.
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Who screams?
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Who screams?
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[screams]
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- [shrieks]
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- [screams]
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[continual screaming]
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- [screams]
- [screams]
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- [screams]
- [shouts]
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- No!
- [screaming]
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- I suppose,
for a lot of people
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who grew up on
"Friday the 13th,"
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"Halloween," "Scream,"
horror equals gore.
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- [screams]
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[blood squelches]
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- You have the idea
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that all horror films
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are slasher films,
which is wrong,
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and then you have the idea
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that, uh, slasher films
are purely misogynistic
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and that the only people
who watch them are men,
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and that's also wrong.
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narrator: The most
extreme form
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of horror films--slashers--
have been vilified
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since they first
came on the scene.
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- [cackles]
narrator: But they have also
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been tremendously popular.
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The worst of them
can still be entertaining.
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The best of them tell us
brutal truths about ourselves,
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our fears,
and our secret desires.
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♪
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- [shouts]
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- [screams]
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[hollering]
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- 1974, Bob Clark comes in
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with "Black Christmas."
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- [spluttering]
[choir singing eerily]
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- [choking]
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- That is the first
POV of slasher:
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girls in the sorority house
over the holiday...
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- [groans]
- [screams]
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- But that becomes
sort of the--the precursor
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to John Carpenter,
who comes in with "Halloween."
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[menacing music]
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♪
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- "Halloween," technically,
is a slasher movie.
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but it happens to be
the Cadillac
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of slasher movies.
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["Halloween" theme plays]
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[suspenseful synth music]
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- "Halloween" also made
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horror films mainstream.
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It was one of the ones that
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people who "don't like
horror movies" still watch.
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- [heavy breathing]
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- "Halloween"
is remarkably effective,
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like, from the opening
long take of a child
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looking through a mask.
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- A young boy
murders his sister
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and is put away
in a mental institution.
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And 16 years later...
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he escapes
and comes back to the town
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and to the scene of the crime.
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- And over the course
of Halloween day,
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Michael Myers slowly
lets his presence known
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to Laurie Strode.
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[knocking on door]
- Tommy, hurry up!
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Tommy, please! [shouts]
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- This is rare in a lot
of horror films--
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actually, like,
a likeable lead.
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You know,
in "Friday the 13th,"
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you want both
of those actors to die.
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[laughing]
You don't want
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Jamie Lee Curtis to die.
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You want Jamie Lee Curtis
to survive.
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- I think it all had
to do with emotion.
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John said very clearly
what he wanted.
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He said, "I really want
her vulnerability."
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It's why he cast me,
apparently,
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and I didn't really
understand that at 19.
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[menacing music]
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And I learned what John meant
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when I went
and saw the movie
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in Hollywood at a theater.
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There's the sequence
where Laurie Strode leaves
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the babysitting house...
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and there's this long walk
between the two houses.
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And of course,
the entire audience
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started screaming,
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"Don't go in there!"
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♪
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And that's when I understood
what John was going for
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was that you cared enough
about her
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that you would tell her,
"Don't do this."
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[sinister music]
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- So much of horror
is about mood, atmosphere,
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and cinematic style.
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John Carpenter
using the wide screen
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and the Panaglide camera
starting with "Halloween,"
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it's something
that makes the film
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that much more effective.
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[sharp tone plays]
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- When I met John,
I was immediately impressed
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that he wanted
to use the camera
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to tell the story, rather than
just a recording device.
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The Steadicam--
the Panaglide at the time--
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was one of those tools
that John and I looked at
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as being a key technique--
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moving the camera fluidly.
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♪
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- You didn't know
where Michael Myers was.
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You know,
you saw him outside,
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and then you'd be in
making out, you know,
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on a couch, and it's like,
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"Okay, he's out there
someplace."
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- Like, you'll watch a lot
of these movies
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and you're not scared anymore.
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And when you think, of like,
Michael Myers, like,
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I was freaked out for years.
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Just the idea of some, just,
dude popping out of places...
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and murdering
you real quick.
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- [screams]
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Oh!
[groans]
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- Michael Myers
is the human being
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that's actually a wolf
wearing a human face.
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You know, the human
that just ain't human.
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[sinister music]
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- [gasps]
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[whimpering]
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[jarring screeching tones]
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- What you saw in the sequels
was an attempt
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to kind of shoehorn in, uh,
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other characters
or other mythologies
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just to make it
more interesting.
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- In "Halloween II,"
they make it that Laurie
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and Michael Myers
are brother and sister.
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- That Strode girl?
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That's Michael Myers' sister.
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- He's not her brother.
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She's not his sister.
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That's just bull [bleep].
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Nobody was coming
from that point of view
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when they were making
the first one.
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And what makes
the first one so good
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is the fact that
you don't know what it is
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that makes
Michael Myers go, "Her."
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[menacing music]
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- "Halloween" was one
of the first films
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to really initiate
the final girl as a trope.
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A main character
who's a woman
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who is first a victim
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and ultimately, a survivor
who fights back.
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- [cries out]
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- It's a formula
that really worked,
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and it's become so common
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that I think most people
don't even think about it.
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- Go upstairs, get Lindsey,
and lock the bedroom door.
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- I'm scared!
- Do as I say!
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- The boogeyman...
- It's pure.
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There's something very pure
and clean about it.
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No! [struggling]
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Innocence and danger
coming together
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with that music
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and that camera work
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and the performances
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is why I think we're still
talking about it today.
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narrator: John Carpenter's
"Halloween"
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launched the slasher boom
of the '80s.
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Its influence
is still felt today.
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But it didn't come out
of nowhere.
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- [screaming]
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- Good evening.
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[eerie ambient music]
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I have some news
that will delight you.
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♪
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Murder is not dead.
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- Starting with, uh,
Alfred Hitchcock's "Psycho"
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in 1960,
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we started seeing
a new approach to horror.
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It was the, uh...the horror
that didn't come out of, uh,
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some grotesque
radioactive anomaly,
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but it could be
lurking next door.
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A nice young man
like Norman Bates
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could be the new Frankenstein,
the new Dracula.
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- Do you go out with friends?
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- [swallows]
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Well, a--a boy's best friend
is his mother.
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- Hitch always thought
it was a comedy.
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He always claimed that.
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- The content, as such,
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was, I felt, rather amusing.
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- My mother, um--
what is the phrase...
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[tense music]
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She isn't quite herself today.
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- But it's very perverted
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and very sick.
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- There's hangers in the closet
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and stationery with
"Bates Motel" printed on it,
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in case you want to make
your friends back home
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feel envious.
[chuckles]
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And the, uh...
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Over there.
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- The bathroom.
- Yeah.
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- One of the big things
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that I think to this day was
still shocking about "Psycho"
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was you killed the protagonist
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40 minutes in to the movie.
- Yeah.
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- Even knowing that
the shower scene
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was coming, I was like,
"Wait, she can't be the one
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who gets killed."
- "There's so much movie left."
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["The Murder" playing]
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- [screams]
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No! [shouts]
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- "Psycho" raised terror
to a level
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that I had never seen, anyway,
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because it was near realistic.
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- No!
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- Before "Psycho,"
that was not imaginable,
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that level of terror.
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♪
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"Psycho" and Hitchcock
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brought terror
into your shower.
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- "Psycho" was the first time
I was aware of the editing...
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[eerie, quickening pulsing]
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And how your mind
gets tricked,
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and what you see off-camera.
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- This process of frightening
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is done by means
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of a given medium:
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the medium of pure cinema.
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♪
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The assembly of pieces of film
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to create fright.
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[distorted screaming]
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- That shower scene is one
of the most iconic pieces
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of cinema
ever to be created,
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so much so that it's--
it's burned in people's brains
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who haven't even seen
the movie.
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[screeching string notes]
- [gasps]
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- People know that
Bernard Herrmann's score--
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the... [imitates string notes]
You know,
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kids grow up, like, doing
that with that sound,
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not knowing what it's from.
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[laughing] Like, talk about
having made a cultural impact.
287
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[ominous string music]
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- Bernard Herrmann's score
to the film was very dramatic,
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very--very propulsive.
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It's virtually impossible
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for a horror composer
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not to have to wrestle
with the "Psycho" score.
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♪
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You cannot avoid it.
You have to deal with it.
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♪
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- In 1960, I'm sure people
regarded the shower scene
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in "Psycho"
as having gone too far.
298
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[rustling]
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Like, "Alfred Hitchcock's
gone too far this time."
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But it's indelible, it's--
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they're indelible images,
and they're, like,
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forever, like, sort of
in your brain and, like,
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people have bad dreams
thinking about those movies.
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- John Carpenter, you know,
was greatly influenced
305
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by "Psycho," even
to the point of casting
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Janet Lee's daughter,
Jamie Lee Curtis,
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in the lead role.
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- Ironic that it's
the same genre...
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same family.
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Obviously, it was
the biggest...
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thing in her life,
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as I know that
"Halloween" is mine.
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So when I jokingly say to you,
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"'Halloween' Actress Dies"...
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that's what it will say.
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Nothing else.
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Just like my mom.
"'Psycho' Actress Dies."
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[eerie music]
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- Because of Hitchcock,
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people will accept cinema
first in a thriller...
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in a way they won't accept it
in a love story,
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in a way they won't accept it
in a period drama,
323
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in a way they won't accept it
in almost--
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most every other genre,
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because Hitchcock
taught people
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to be thinking of cinema first.
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We're just naturally okay
328
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with the camera taking off
and doing things.
329
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[eerie string music]
330
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- I think it's fair to say
that "Psycho"
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was a turning point...
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[screeching string notes]
333
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Certainly in American
filmmaking--
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and in Hollywood filmmaking,
335
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because there was no one
more establishment
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than Alfred Hitchcock.
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[dark string music]
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And there was no turning back.
339
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There was no turning back.
340
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narrator: "Psycho" influenced
every horror film to come,
341
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and it paved the way
for a new kind
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of movie monster...
- [screaming]
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narrator:
The chainsaw-wielding
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serial killer.
[chainsaw whirring]
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00:14:06,193 --> 00:14:07,933
[chainsaw revving]
346
00:14:07,977 --> 00:14:11,587
[chainsaws whirring]
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[woman screaming]
348
00:14:13,287 --> 00:14:14,977
- If you think about
the landmarks
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"Psycho" and "Halloween,"
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00:14:16,464 --> 00:14:17,944
clearly the bridge
between the two
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00:14:17,987 --> 00:14:19,727
is Tobe Hooper's
"The Texas Chainsaw Massacre."
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- Yeah.
- [hollering]
353
00:14:21,382 --> 00:14:24,082
- [screaming]
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- Out of every movie
that we've talked about,
355
00:14:25,952 --> 00:14:28,172
that's the one
that defined me.
356
00:14:28,215 --> 00:14:30,085
Like, that's everything
I wanted in a movie
357
00:14:30,130 --> 00:14:32,050
and everything I ever wanted
to do in movies.
358
00:14:32,088 --> 00:14:34,048
It was just disgusting
and nasty,
359
00:14:34,090 --> 00:14:36,920
and that redneck thing...
360
00:14:36,963 --> 00:14:38,363
- Relentless.
- That movie just changed
361
00:14:38,399 --> 00:14:39,839
the way I thought about movies.
362
00:14:39,879 --> 00:14:41,139
- Yeah.
- Instantly.
363
00:14:41,184 --> 00:14:42,844
[chainsaw revving]
364
00:14:42,882 --> 00:14:44,542
[girls screaming]
365
00:14:44,579 --> 00:14:46,359
- We decided to re-watch
"Texas Chainsaw Massacre,"
366
00:14:46,407 --> 00:14:48,797
like, a month ago.
I watched it eight times.
367
00:14:48,844 --> 00:14:51,284
- [shrieking]
368
00:14:51,325 --> 00:14:53,105
- "Texas Chainsaw Massacre"
is one of the most
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important movies, to me,
of all horror films.
370
00:14:56,896 --> 00:15:00,066
- You walk into a movie called
"Texas Chainsaw Massacre,"
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and you expect the worst.
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And you get it.
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[woman screaming]
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[menacing music]
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[slurping, woman screaming]
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00:15:12,868 --> 00:15:16,478
♪
377
00:15:16,524 --> 00:15:19,574
It was incredibly potent
and visceral...
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00:15:19,614 --> 00:15:21,224
- [sucking]
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00:15:21,268 --> 00:15:23,488
- There was an imagination--
a dark imagination--
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that had no limits.
381
00:15:25,315 --> 00:15:28,355
[male narrator
reading somberly]
382
00:15:31,191 --> 00:15:33,411
- [laughs]
It just starts with that great,
383
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like, dreadful,
somber narration
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at the beginning of the story.
385
00:15:38,763 --> 00:15:41,813
[narrator reading somberly]
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- So right off the bat,
you're thinking, "Wow,
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is this based on a true story?"
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00:15:51,863 --> 00:15:54,783
And then they flash
this date...
389
00:15:54,823 --> 00:15:57,703
- It really feels like
you were dropped
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00:15:57,739 --> 00:16:01,089
into, uh, watching something
happen for real.
391
00:16:01,134 --> 00:16:03,574
- This heat is just
driving me crazy,
392
00:16:03,614 --> 00:16:05,444
I don't know if
I can take much more.
393
00:16:05,486 --> 00:16:07,266
- Listen, the condition...
- "Texas Chainsaw Massacre"
394
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was the first one
where I thought
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they were real people.
- Yeah.
396
00:16:10,186 --> 00:16:12,446
- I never looked
at them as actors.
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00:16:12,493 --> 00:16:14,103
- [laughing]
398
00:16:14,147 --> 00:16:16,367
- You don't see
any on-screen violence.
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It's all implied.
- The hook...puts her
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hanging on the meat hook.
- When he picks her up,
401
00:16:19,848 --> 00:16:22,018
and he's holding her
over the hook...
402
00:16:22,068 --> 00:16:24,548
- [shrieks]
[musical sting]
403
00:16:24,592 --> 00:16:25,852
- And you came out
of that movie
404
00:16:25,897 --> 00:16:27,547
certain that you remembered,
405
00:16:27,595 --> 00:16:29,595
"Oh, yeah, remember, you see
the hook go through her."
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00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:31,470
But your mind just
put it all together.
407
00:16:31,512 --> 00:16:34,042
- Stop.
[chainsaw revving]
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00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,780
[screaming]
409
00:16:36,821 --> 00:16:39,261
- "Texas Chainsaw"
is inspired
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00:16:39,302 --> 00:16:42,572
by the Ed Gein story
from, uh, Wisconsin.
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00:16:42,610 --> 00:16:44,530
[dark music]
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00:16:44,568 --> 00:16:46,178
female reporter:
It was a crime that shocked
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the small town of
Plainfield, Wisconsin.
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00:16:48,181 --> 00:16:49,831
[projector clicks and whirs]
415
00:16:49,878 --> 00:16:51,618
Edward Gein,
accused of killing a woman,
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then gutting her body
like a slaughtered deer.
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00:16:55,536 --> 00:16:58,836
- Tobe told me that he--
when he was a kid,
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00:16:58,887 --> 00:17:01,977
they would tell him the story
of this guy, Ed Gein.
419
00:17:02,021 --> 00:17:04,241
reporter: He would use
those body parts and bones
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00:17:04,284 --> 00:17:06,504
to make lamp shades
and other furniture.
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00:17:06,547 --> 00:17:09,807
He would also wear
dead female body parts.
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00:17:09,854 --> 00:17:11,774
♪
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00:17:11,813 --> 00:17:14,213
- And so they used
to use Ed Gein
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as a cautionary tale.
425
00:17:15,860 --> 00:17:18,120
"Don't be bad,
or Ed Gein will come for you."
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00:17:18,167 --> 00:17:22,257
♪
427
00:17:22,302 --> 00:17:25,092
- Someone once said
before Tobe Hooper,
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00:17:25,131 --> 00:17:29,401
there had been plenty
of films about psychopaths,
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00:17:29,439 --> 00:17:31,269
but when you saw
"Texas Chainsaw Massacre,"
430
00:17:31,311 --> 00:17:33,231
it was the first time
you saw a film that seemed
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00:17:33,269 --> 00:17:35,709
like it had been directed
by a psychopath.
432
00:17:35,750 --> 00:17:38,710
- Tobe, he had
a sweetness to him.
433
00:17:38,753 --> 00:17:42,153
At the same time, he would
try to rip your head off
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00:17:42,191 --> 00:17:44,931
if you--if you even messed
with a frame of his movie.
435
00:17:44,976 --> 00:17:46,846
- If you'll pardon my French,
they didn't give a [bleep]
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00:17:46,891 --> 00:17:48,111
about what people thought
437
00:17:48,154 --> 00:17:50,204
about the movie
they were making.
438
00:17:50,243 --> 00:17:52,813
[sinister music]
439
00:17:52,854 --> 00:17:54,554
The conditions
of making that movie
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00:17:54,595 --> 00:17:55,675
were so primitive.
441
00:17:55,726 --> 00:17:57,726
I mean, these guys,
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00:17:57,772 --> 00:18:01,432
they borrowed 16-millimeter
Aeroflex cameras
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00:18:01,471 --> 00:18:03,211
from the University of Texas
444
00:18:03,256 --> 00:18:05,516
under the hottest,
worst conditions.
445
00:18:05,562 --> 00:18:07,782
It was like 120 degrees,
446
00:18:07,825 --> 00:18:10,345
and they were like,
"Let's go out there
447
00:18:10,393 --> 00:18:12,403
and stir it up."
448
00:18:12,439 --> 00:18:15,489
- It was not a pleasant
experience for anyone,
449
00:18:15,529 --> 00:18:17,139
and it's reflected in the film.
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00:18:17,183 --> 00:18:21,453
- [screaming]
451
00:18:21,491 --> 00:18:23,361
- I don't think
Tobe Hooper set out
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00:18:23,406 --> 00:18:27,626
to make a movie about Vietnam,
but he could not help
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00:18:27,671 --> 00:18:30,501
but reflect the rebellion
that was going on.
454
00:18:30,544 --> 00:18:32,154
male reporter:
Subsequent investigation...
455
00:18:32,198 --> 00:18:33,628
- The times were political,
456
00:18:33,677 --> 00:18:36,247
and the times were,
you--you know,
457
00:18:36,289 --> 00:18:38,679
steeped in Vietnam.
458
00:18:38,726 --> 00:18:41,336
- Hit her, Grandpa!
- [screaming]
459
00:18:41,381 --> 00:18:43,471
[wailing]
460
00:18:43,513 --> 00:18:45,123
- "The Texas
Chainsaw Massacre"
461
00:18:45,167 --> 00:18:47,817
is a very American story,
462
00:18:47,865 --> 00:18:51,125
and--and in some ways, uh,
a capitalistic story.
463
00:18:51,173 --> 00:18:52,873
- The place where they shoot
the cattle in the head
464
00:18:52,914 --> 00:18:54,264
with that big air gun thing.
465
00:18:54,307 --> 00:18:56,787
- Oh, that--that gun's no good.
466
00:18:56,831 --> 00:18:58,881
- I was in there once
with my uncle...
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00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:00,490
- What
"Texas Chainsaw Massacre"
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00:19:00,530 --> 00:19:02,400
is really about
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00:19:02,445 --> 00:19:05,185
is a family
of dispossessed workers.
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00:19:05,231 --> 00:19:06,931
- With a sledge.
[laughing]
471
00:19:06,971 --> 00:19:08,671
See, that was better.
472
00:19:08,712 --> 00:19:10,152
They died better that way.
473
00:19:10,192 --> 00:19:13,202
- Because of automation
and loss of jobs,
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00:19:13,239 --> 00:19:15,719
they no longer have
the means, you know,
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00:19:15,763 --> 00:19:17,723
to earn th--a living
for themselves.
476
00:19:17,765 --> 00:19:21,415
- [stuttering] With the new
way, people put out of jobs.
477
00:19:21,464 --> 00:19:23,864
- The oppressed working class
478
00:19:23,901 --> 00:19:26,771
turn the tools
of their trade
479
00:19:26,817 --> 00:19:28,987
back upon
their former employers--
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00:19:29,037 --> 00:19:31,737
the chainsaw,
the hammer, and so on--
481
00:19:31,779 --> 00:19:35,089
but it's also tied in
with psychic repression,
482
00:19:35,130 --> 00:19:37,440
because, like, people love
the meat on their plate
483
00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,090
but don't want to think
about how it gets made.
484
00:19:40,135 --> 00:19:43,045
And by substituting
the teenagers for the cattle
485
00:19:43,094 --> 00:19:45,534
and the former
dispossessed workers
486
00:19:45,575 --> 00:19:47,445
enacting revenge against them,
487
00:19:47,490 --> 00:19:50,490
it's a kind of un-repression
both of meat itself
488
00:19:50,537 --> 00:19:52,667
and of working-class labor.
489
00:19:52,713 --> 00:19:53,803
[chainsaw revving]
490
00:19:53,844 --> 00:19:56,674
- [hollering]
491
00:19:56,717 --> 00:19:58,197
- And Tobe called that movie
492
00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,940
"a $60,000 flare"
he shot up from Austin.
493
00:20:01,983 --> 00:20:03,853
And I mean, it's in
the Museum of Modern Art now.
494
00:20:03,898 --> 00:20:06,378
It's a classic,
but it's unmatched after that.
495
00:20:06,422 --> 00:20:09,692
I mean, that ratchets up horror
to a whole other level.
496
00:20:09,730 --> 00:20:12,040
[chainsaw whirring]
497
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,600
narrator: "Texas Chainsaw,"
"Halloween," and "Psycho"
498
00:20:14,648 --> 00:20:16,868
opened the gates
for a new kind of horror.
499
00:20:16,911 --> 00:20:18,701
["Friday the 13th"
theme plays]
500
00:20:18,739 --> 00:20:21,519
But the slasher film
as we know it was truly born
501
00:20:21,568 --> 00:20:23,788
with the most successful
horror franchise
502
00:20:23,831 --> 00:20:25,271
of all time...
503
00:20:25,311 --> 00:20:27,101
[sharp string music]
504
00:20:27,138 --> 00:20:28,748
"Friday the 13th."
505
00:20:33,449 --> 00:20:35,969
narrator: When you think
of "Friday the 13th,"
506
00:20:36,017 --> 00:20:37,237
you think of dead teenagers...
507
00:20:37,279 --> 00:20:39,409
- [screaming]
- [shrieking]
508
00:20:39,455 --> 00:20:41,935
narrator: And the unstoppable
Jason Voorhees.
509
00:20:41,979 --> 00:20:43,679
[sinister musical sting]
510
00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,590
- Growing up when I did,
we all watched
511
00:20:45,635 --> 00:20:48,415
"Friday the 13th"...
one, two, three, four,
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00:20:48,464 --> 00:20:50,344
five, six, seven.
513
00:20:50,379 --> 00:20:51,819
Eight was horrible.
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00:20:51,859 --> 00:20:52,949
[whirring]
515
00:20:52,990 --> 00:20:55,040
- [screaming]
516
00:20:55,079 --> 00:20:56,729
- But in terms
of character names...
517
00:20:56,777 --> 00:20:58,997
[darkly]
Jason Voorhees.
518
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,130
It--it was just evil.
519
00:21:01,172 --> 00:21:03,872
♪
520
00:21:03,914 --> 00:21:07,614
- I believe
that I have murdered
521
00:21:07,657 --> 00:21:11,437
more people on film
than any actor in history.
522
00:21:11,487 --> 00:21:16,667
I played Jason in four
of the "Friday the 13th" films.
523
00:21:16,710 --> 00:21:19,450
There's a lot more to playing
a character like Jason
524
00:21:19,495 --> 00:21:22,405
than throwing the mask on
and, you know,
525
00:21:22,455 --> 00:21:24,195
walking around threateningly,
526
00:21:24,239 --> 00:21:27,939
because two of the major tools
an actor uses
527
00:21:27,982 --> 00:21:30,852
are their facial expressions
528
00:21:30,898 --> 00:21:32,468
and their voice.
529
00:21:32,508 --> 00:21:35,208
So now, you take away
both of those
530
00:21:35,250 --> 00:21:37,250
by making him silent
531
00:21:37,296 --> 00:21:39,906
and putting a mask on him.
532
00:21:39,950 --> 00:21:41,470
- [whimpering]
533
00:21:41,517 --> 00:21:42,997
♪
534
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:44,390
- [screams]
535
00:21:44,433 --> 00:21:47,043
- So I always was conscious
536
00:21:47,088 --> 00:21:50,308
of Jason never looking awkward
537
00:21:50,352 --> 00:21:52,142
or off-balance or weak.
538
00:21:52,180 --> 00:21:54,490
I would never look down
to see where I was walking,
539
00:21:54,530 --> 00:21:56,450
because I thought
it weakened the character.
540
00:21:59,274 --> 00:22:01,894
My favorite Jason kill--
which was my favorite
541
00:22:01,929 --> 00:22:04,109
all-time kill for a long time--
542
00:22:04,148 --> 00:22:06,928
was the sleeping bag
from "Part VII."
543
00:22:06,977 --> 00:22:11,767
- [screaming]
[quickening string music]
544
00:22:11,808 --> 00:22:13,378
♪
545
00:22:13,419 --> 00:22:15,549
- I put my heart and soul
into that character
546
00:22:15,595 --> 00:22:17,765
and loved playing it.
547
00:22:17,814 --> 00:22:20,564
- Name the killer
in "Friday the 13th."
548
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,170
- [breathing heavily]
Jason! Jason! Jason!
549
00:22:23,211 --> 00:22:26,351
- I'm sorry.
That's the wrong answer.
550
00:22:26,388 --> 00:22:28,218
[eerie music]
551
00:22:28,259 --> 00:22:30,909
narrator: Jason is synonymous
with "Friday the 13th,"
552
00:22:30,958 --> 00:22:34,438
but he's barely seen
in the original film.
553
00:22:34,483 --> 00:22:37,793
The rest of the formula,
though, was in place.
554
00:22:37,834 --> 00:22:39,314
- "Friday the 13th"
is a story
555
00:22:39,358 --> 00:22:40,658
about a group
of camp counselors
556
00:22:40,707 --> 00:22:42,137
who've come up
to set up a camp...
557
00:22:42,186 --> 00:22:44,536
- Well, come on.
Let's go.
558
00:22:44,580 --> 00:22:46,230
- I thought we had two weeks.
559
00:22:46,277 --> 00:22:48,057
- And have been
sort of targeted
560
00:22:48,105 --> 00:22:49,715
by a mysterious killer.
561
00:22:49,759 --> 00:22:51,759
- No...
562
00:22:51,805 --> 00:22:53,545
[sinister string music]
563
00:22:53,589 --> 00:22:54,759
[breathlessly] No...
564
00:22:54,808 --> 00:22:57,418
[gasping]
565
00:22:57,463 --> 00:22:59,473
♪
566
00:22:59,508 --> 00:23:01,638
- One or two or three
of them get picked off,
567
00:23:01,684 --> 00:23:05,254
and you say, "Oh, my goodness,
anybody could go at any time."
568
00:23:05,296 --> 00:23:07,776
- [gasps loudly]
- Something's wrong with Ned.
569
00:23:07,821 --> 00:23:09,871
- That was, I think,
part of the--the secret
570
00:23:09,910 --> 00:23:13,260
to the suspense
that we were able to create.
571
00:23:13,304 --> 00:23:15,134
["Friday the 13th"
theme plays]
572
00:23:15,176 --> 00:23:17,476
[indistinct words echoing]
- It must be my imagination.
573
00:23:17,526 --> 00:23:20,086
[chuckles]
574
00:23:20,137 --> 00:23:22,097
[gasps, screams]
575
00:23:22,139 --> 00:23:24,099
[jagged violin music]
576
00:23:24,141 --> 00:23:26,191
♪
577
00:23:26,230 --> 00:23:29,230
- We needed somebody that knew
a lot more than we did
578
00:23:29,277 --> 00:23:30,927
about how to pull off
a special effect.
579
00:23:30,974 --> 00:23:32,544
You wanna stab
somebody with a knife.
580
00:23:32,585 --> 00:23:34,105
How do you do it?
You can't just get
581
00:23:34,151 --> 00:23:36,201
a rubber knife and--
and start... [laughs]
582
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:37,680
You know, going at people.
583
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:38,940
And we were fortunate enough
584
00:23:38,982 --> 00:23:40,772
to run into a guy
named Tom Savini,
585
00:23:40,810 --> 00:23:43,810
and he just couldn't wait
586
00:23:43,857 --> 00:23:46,637
to get involved,
and he had such wonderful,
587
00:23:46,686 --> 00:23:48,726
positive energy.
588
00:23:50,690 --> 00:23:54,480
- Kevin Bacon was, uh, sitting
upright underneath the bed.
589
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,220
His--only his head
came through the bed.
590
00:23:58,262 --> 00:23:59,962
- [chokes]
591
00:24:00,003 --> 00:24:02,053
- So I'm actually pushing
the arrow through
592
00:24:02,092 --> 00:24:04,362
the fake chest and neck,
593
00:24:04,399 --> 00:24:07,659
and my assistant, uh,
was pumping the blood.
594
00:24:07,707 --> 00:24:10,667
Now, while he was pumping
the blood, the tubing came off
595
00:24:10,710 --> 00:24:12,760
the blood pump,
and during the take,
596
00:24:12,799 --> 00:24:14,929
he grabbed it
and blew through it,
597
00:24:14,975 --> 00:24:17,535
which caused the nice gurgling
of the blood.
598
00:24:17,586 --> 00:24:20,886
[terrifying violin music]
599
00:24:20,937 --> 00:24:23,067
So it was a happy accident
that made the effect,
600
00:24:23,113 --> 00:24:24,853
you know, a l--so much better.
601
00:24:24,898 --> 00:24:27,638
- What makes
"Friday the 13th" a classic
602
00:24:27,683 --> 00:24:29,863
is the reveal of Mrs. Voorhees.
603
00:24:29,903 --> 00:24:32,083
[sinister music]
- Steve!
604
00:24:32,122 --> 00:24:34,172
[panting] Oh, Steve!
605
00:24:34,211 --> 00:24:37,171
[musical sting]
606
00:24:37,214 --> 00:24:39,174
Who are you?
607
00:24:39,216 --> 00:24:40,996
- Well, I--I'm Mrs. Voorhees,
608
00:24:41,044 --> 00:24:42,964
an old friend of the Christys'.
609
00:24:43,003 --> 00:24:45,613
- Everyone's trying
to survive, uh,
610
00:24:45,658 --> 00:24:47,438
as they're being knocked off
one by one
611
00:24:47,486 --> 00:24:49,526
by a killer that they
don't know, and then you reveal
612
00:24:49,575 --> 00:24:51,525
it's the mother
of this drowned boy.
613
00:24:51,577 --> 00:24:54,407
- You see,
Jason was my son.
614
00:24:54,449 --> 00:24:59,409
- A mother was driven mad
by her child drowning
615
00:24:59,454 --> 00:25:02,024
and seeing the world ignore it
and go by
616
00:25:02,065 --> 00:25:03,585
and think that they
can just restart
617
00:25:03,632 --> 00:25:05,162
and go on with their lives.
618
00:25:05,199 --> 00:25:07,289
The manifestation
of grief is actually
619
00:25:07,331 --> 00:25:10,291
very poetic and relatable.
620
00:25:10,334 --> 00:25:12,554
- [screams]
621
00:25:12,598 --> 00:25:15,168
- We started to hear
some of the score
622
00:25:15,209 --> 00:25:17,779
that Harry was writing for
the first "Friday the 13th,"
623
00:25:17,820 --> 00:25:20,430
and this--this...
[imitates echoing sound]
624
00:25:20,475 --> 00:25:22,295
Kept coming up.
625
00:25:22,346 --> 00:25:24,216
["Friday the 13th"
theme plays]
626
00:25:24,261 --> 00:25:26,051
[indistinct words echoing]
627
00:25:26,089 --> 00:25:30,439
- You remember a scene
at the very end, uh...
628
00:25:30,485 --> 00:25:34,835
where Mrs. Voorhees--uh,
Betsy Palmer, rest her soul.
629
00:25:34,881 --> 00:25:37,971
Dear Betsy.
We hear, uh, her son go...
630
00:25:38,014 --> 00:25:39,894
- "Kill her, Mommy.
631
00:25:39,929 --> 00:25:41,319
Kill her."
632
00:25:41,365 --> 00:25:43,715
- And that's what
kicked it off for me.
633
00:25:43,759 --> 00:25:47,419
I went, "She hears
voices in her head."
634
00:25:47,458 --> 00:25:49,498
I went up to
a microphone and went,
635
00:25:49,548 --> 00:25:51,108
"K...ma..."
636
00:25:51,158 --> 00:25:52,768
And then it came out...
637
00:25:52,812 --> 00:25:54,602
[imitating echoing]
Kih...mah...
638
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,560
And it literally became
the signature
639
00:25:57,599 --> 00:26:00,429
of that series,
the sound that--
640
00:26:00,471 --> 00:26:02,211
what they call
"the Jason sound."
641
00:26:02,256 --> 00:26:05,296
- [whimpering]
- Look what you did to him!
642
00:26:05,346 --> 00:26:07,696
- [whimpers]
643
00:26:07,740 --> 00:26:10,050
- [screaming]
- [yelps]
644
00:26:11,657 --> 00:26:13,477
[grunts]
645
00:26:13,528 --> 00:26:15,488
- I remember thinking
the movie was over.
646
00:26:15,530 --> 00:26:17,180
You remember,
she was on the lake.
647
00:26:17,227 --> 00:26:18,747
And I thought the m--
I legitimately was like,
648
00:26:18,794 --> 00:26:20,234
"Aw, the movie's over.
649
00:26:20,274 --> 00:26:22,544
[exhales]
She's at the boat."
650
00:26:22,581 --> 00:26:25,371
- [growling]
[shrill violin music]
651
00:26:25,409 --> 00:26:27,279
- [screaming]
652
00:26:27,324 --> 00:26:30,284
- He jumped out that water.
I lost it.
653
00:26:30,327 --> 00:26:32,367
I don't even know
how I fell for that.
654
00:26:32,416 --> 00:26:33,936
To this day...
655
00:26:33,983 --> 00:26:36,423
was the loudest
I ever screamed in my life.
656
00:26:36,464 --> 00:26:39,124
- The boy, Jason.
657
00:26:40,729 --> 00:26:41,859
- Jason?
658
00:26:41,904 --> 00:26:43,044
- Nobody knew that was
659
00:26:43,079 --> 00:26:45,039
going to become a franchise,
660
00:26:45,081 --> 00:26:47,521
but it was certainly easy
to replicate.
661
00:26:47,562 --> 00:26:50,132
[screeching string music]
662
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,830
[dark music]
663
00:26:52,872 --> 00:26:56,312
- The--my biggest regret is
putting the bag over his head.
664
00:26:56,353 --> 00:26:59,273
- [screaming]
665
00:26:59,313 --> 00:27:01,233
- So then, doing "Part III,"
666
00:27:01,271 --> 00:27:04,671
this guy we had hired
as a--as a 3-D expert
667
00:27:04,710 --> 00:27:06,060
was also a hockey player.
668
00:27:06,102 --> 00:27:07,452
And I was trying
to figure out--
669
00:27:07,495 --> 00:27:08,625
you know, I wasn't gonna
do the bag again.
670
00:27:08,670 --> 00:27:10,020
"What are we gonna do?"
671
00:27:10,063 --> 00:27:11,673
And one day,
he walked into my office
672
00:27:11,717 --> 00:27:14,887
with a goalie mask
and said, "How about this?"
673
00:27:14,937 --> 00:27:16,847
[sinister music]
674
00:27:16,896 --> 00:27:18,766
- [screaming]
675
00:27:18,811 --> 00:27:19,941
- It was perfect.
676
00:27:19,986 --> 00:27:21,196
It was, immediately--
677
00:27:21,248 --> 00:27:22,508
that was gonna be great.
678
00:27:22,553 --> 00:27:24,953
- [growling]
- [screaming]
679
00:27:24,991 --> 00:27:27,651
♪
680
00:27:27,689 --> 00:27:29,689
- I don't understand
how, in the first one,
681
00:27:29,735 --> 00:27:31,905
he's like an 11-year-old
who jumps out of the lake,
682
00:27:31,954 --> 00:27:34,044
and then he's built like a--
683
00:27:34,087 --> 00:27:35,567
a WCW wrestler.
684
00:27:35,610 --> 00:27:37,090
- [screaming, whimpering]
685
00:27:37,133 --> 00:27:38,963
- I don't understand
what happened
686
00:27:39,005 --> 00:27:40,525
where he suddenly got
all jacked.
687
00:27:40,571 --> 00:27:42,141
- [screaming]
688
00:27:42,182 --> 00:27:43,532
[metal crinkling]
689
00:27:43,574 --> 00:27:44,884
- You know,
after the first movies
690
00:27:44,924 --> 00:27:46,534
and the subsequent sequels
became,
691
00:27:46,577 --> 00:27:48,797
"Who are these,
you know, awful kids
692
00:27:48,841 --> 00:27:50,411
"that we sort of hate
and we can't wait
693
00:27:50,451 --> 00:27:51,801
for Jason to take them out?"
694
00:27:51,844 --> 00:27:54,634
[dramatic riffing music]
695
00:27:54,673 --> 00:27:56,153
- [screaming]
696
00:27:56,196 --> 00:27:58,846
♪
697
00:27:58,894 --> 00:28:00,724
- [screaming]
698
00:28:00,766 --> 00:28:03,986
- I've always thought that
the slasher films of the 1980s
699
00:28:04,030 --> 00:28:05,680
didn't really work
as horror fiction.
700
00:28:05,727 --> 00:28:08,207
But they worked pretty well
as slapstick comedies...
701
00:28:09,731 --> 00:28:11,691
[jarring music]
- [strangled cry]
702
00:28:11,733 --> 00:28:13,913
- And the reason
for that is, you know,
703
00:28:13,953 --> 00:28:16,263
the characters are never
allowed to be anything
704
00:28:16,303 --> 00:28:18,093
except one-dimensional types.
705
00:28:18,131 --> 00:28:19,791
You've got a gang
of teenagers.
706
00:28:19,828 --> 00:28:21,738
You've got the jock.
You've got the stoner.
707
00:28:21,787 --> 00:28:23,917
You've got the slut.
You've got the virgin.
708
00:28:23,963 --> 00:28:25,403
You never care about them,
709
00:28:25,442 --> 00:28:26,882
you never fall
in love with them,
710
00:28:26,922 --> 00:28:28,712
and so when
the serial killer starts
711
00:28:28,750 --> 00:28:31,800
knocking them off
one by one...
712
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,240
You laugh instead of
recoil in horror,
713
00:28:35,278 --> 00:28:38,188
because he's actually more
of a personality than they are.
714
00:28:38,238 --> 00:28:41,498
[sinister music]
715
00:28:41,545 --> 00:28:43,585
- [gasps]
- With the success
716
00:28:43,634 --> 00:28:45,114
of "Friday the 13th"
and the success
717
00:28:45,158 --> 00:28:47,598
of "Halloween,"
people just were--
718
00:28:47,638 --> 00:28:50,468
producers were ravenous
to find material
719
00:28:50,511 --> 00:28:53,991
and knowing that, "Oh,
well this is the formula."
720
00:28:54,036 --> 00:28:56,776
[both gasp]
[haunting organ chord]
721
00:28:56,822 --> 00:28:58,952
- One of the by-products of--
of the success
722
00:28:58,998 --> 00:29:01,698
of "Friday the 13th"
and a few other movies
723
00:29:01,740 --> 00:29:04,570
was that people on the outside
are looking in, saying,
724
00:29:04,612 --> 00:29:06,572
"Oh, they killed ten people
725
00:29:06,614 --> 00:29:07,964
"and they made
a lot of money.
726
00:29:08,007 --> 00:29:09,837
"We'll kill 20 people,
727
00:29:09,878 --> 00:29:12,928
and we'll make
a lot more than that."
728
00:29:12,968 --> 00:29:14,488
[shattering]
729
00:29:16,537 --> 00:29:18,017
narrator: By the early '80s,
730
00:29:18,060 --> 00:29:19,800
slasher movies
glutted the market.
731
00:29:19,845 --> 00:29:21,455
Audiences loved them,
732
00:29:21,498 --> 00:29:23,938
but they also inspired
outright hatred.
733
00:29:23,979 --> 00:29:25,629
- [shrieking]
734
00:29:25,676 --> 00:29:27,586
narrator: Where some saw
harmless entertainment,
735
00:29:27,635 --> 00:29:29,375
others saw a threat
to society.
736
00:29:29,419 --> 00:29:30,549
[both screaming]
737
00:29:34,163 --> 00:29:35,993
- Come on, baby.
738
00:29:36,035 --> 00:29:37,855
Light my fire.
739
00:29:37,906 --> 00:29:39,686
[rock 'n' roll playing]
- You bet I will.
740
00:29:39,734 --> 00:29:42,004
- [laughing]
741
00:29:42,693 --> 00:29:44,523
- I gotta tell you something,
742
00:29:44,565 --> 00:29:47,475
the worst horror movie I ever
saw was [bleep] great, okay?
743
00:29:47,524 --> 00:29:49,224
- Yeah, that's true.
- That's the way that I am,
744
00:29:49,265 --> 00:29:50,915
because I go in there
and I say,
745
00:29:50,963 --> 00:29:52,833
"What am I gonna see?
I don't know."
746
00:29:52,878 --> 00:29:55,528
A movie that's PG-13
747
00:29:55,576 --> 00:29:57,006
that's a horror movie,
748
00:29:57,056 --> 00:29:59,226
it's gotta be scary in some way
749
00:29:59,275 --> 00:30:00,925
that's really artistic.
750
00:30:00,973 --> 00:30:02,803
[faint echoing scream]
751
00:30:02,844 --> 00:30:03,804
- [gasps]
752
00:30:03,845 --> 00:30:05,495
[eerie music]
753
00:30:05,542 --> 00:30:08,242
Once you get to R
and once you get to Unrated,
754
00:30:08,284 --> 00:30:10,294
you're saying, "I don't know
what I'm gonna see."
755
00:30:10,330 --> 00:30:13,200
I got one word for you:
"Maniac."
756
00:30:13,246 --> 00:30:16,206
[quiet, sinister music]
757
00:30:16,249 --> 00:30:19,029
♪
758
00:30:19,078 --> 00:30:21,168
- "Maniac" is one
of my favorite movies,
759
00:30:21,210 --> 00:30:22,820
and I had a feeling
you'd like it, which is why...
760
00:30:22,864 --> 00:30:24,044
- "Maniac"--oh, of course.
- As a gift for you,
761
00:30:24,083 --> 00:30:25,483
I brought you
a "Maniaction" figure.
762
00:30:25,519 --> 00:30:26,829
- Holy [bleep]!
763
00:30:26,868 --> 00:30:28,258
We did not
rehearse this, folks.
764
00:30:28,304 --> 00:30:30,134
Look!
- [laughing]
765
00:30:30,176 --> 00:30:31,526
A "Maniaction" figure.
766
00:30:31,568 --> 00:30:33,568
- I'm so excited,
I almost dropped it!
767
00:30:33,614 --> 00:30:35,884
It's a "Maniac" bloody scalp.
768
00:30:35,921 --> 00:30:38,011
- It's--isn't that sweet?
- Yeah, it really is.
769
00:30:38,053 --> 00:30:39,933
I mean, I don't know
how to thank you for that.
770
00:30:39,968 --> 00:30:41,538
[woman screaming]
771
00:30:41,578 --> 00:30:44,148
- [whimpering]
772
00:30:45,931 --> 00:30:48,371
- "Maniac" is about a guy
named Frank Zito
773
00:30:48,411 --> 00:30:51,331
who's a very...
ah, oddball character
774
00:30:51,371 --> 00:30:53,901
who stalks young women.
775
00:30:53,939 --> 00:30:56,899
And he scalps them
and he takes their scalps home
776
00:30:56,942 --> 00:30:58,682
and he puts them
on these mannequins.
777
00:30:58,726 --> 00:31:00,376
And it is here
he sort of struggles
778
00:31:00,423 --> 00:31:03,953
with this relationship
he had with his mother.
779
00:31:03,992 --> 00:31:06,732
- I will never...
780
00:31:06,777 --> 00:31:09,037
[dark music]
781
00:31:09,084 --> 00:31:12,574
let them take you away from me.
782
00:31:12,609 --> 00:31:15,219
- It's a very minimalist look
at what happens
783
00:31:15,264 --> 00:31:16,534
inside the mind
of a serial killer.
784
00:31:16,570 --> 00:31:19,090
- You bitch!
- What...
785
00:31:19,138 --> 00:31:21,048
- [grunts]
786
00:31:21,096 --> 00:31:23,446
- What're you...doing...
- [grunts]
787
00:31:23,490 --> 00:31:24,880
- [gagging]
788
00:31:24,926 --> 00:31:26,186
Stop it!
789
00:31:26,232 --> 00:31:28,452
What are you doing?
790
00:31:28,495 --> 00:31:31,405
- I mean, the original
"Maniac" is mean,
791
00:31:31,454 --> 00:31:35,634
but it's actually
really powerful and,
792
00:31:35,676 --> 00:31:37,716
thanks to Joe Spinell's
performance,
793
00:31:37,765 --> 00:31:39,845
kind of emotional.
794
00:31:39,898 --> 00:31:44,508
- [sobbing quietly]
Why'd you make me do that?
795
00:31:44,554 --> 00:31:48,044
[sniffles]
I didn't wanna do it.
796
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,170
- It really, like,
went too far.
797
00:31:51,213 --> 00:31:53,223
You know, watching that movie,
you really felt like
798
00:31:53,259 --> 00:31:55,829
the killing scenes
were really protracted
799
00:31:55,870 --> 00:31:57,830
and really brutal
and really grim.
800
00:31:57,872 --> 00:31:59,662
[quickening violin music]
801
00:31:59,700 --> 00:32:01,880
- When that movie came out,
it was so controversial
802
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,830
You know, a lot of women
were protesting it
803
00:32:03,878 --> 00:32:05,968
because this idea that it
was misogynistic, of course.
804
00:32:06,011 --> 00:32:08,971
You know, it's like
all these movies get this label
805
00:32:09,014 --> 00:32:11,584
of being misogynistic
because the victims
806
00:32:11,625 --> 00:32:12,705
are primarily women.
807
00:32:12,756 --> 00:32:14,846
- ...again.
- [moans]
808
00:32:14,889 --> 00:32:16,979
- I don't feel like the film's
misogynistic at all.
809
00:32:17,022 --> 00:32:19,112
As a matter of fact,
I feel, as a woman,
810
00:32:19,154 --> 00:32:22,114
it really represents
a realism to me.
811
00:32:22,157 --> 00:32:23,287
It's--it's--it's like
812
00:32:23,332 --> 00:32:24,902
a cathartic experience
in a way,
813
00:32:24,943 --> 00:32:27,993
because women live in
that sort of world every day,
814
00:32:28,033 --> 00:32:29,513
where we have to be hyperaware
815
00:32:29,556 --> 00:32:31,466
of who's around us
and what could happen.
816
00:32:31,514 --> 00:32:33,174
[eerie music]
817
00:32:33,212 --> 00:32:35,002
narrator: "Maniac" ends
with a group of women
818
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,040
taking brutal revenge
on the killer.
819
00:32:37,085 --> 00:32:39,255
- [moaning in fear]
- And this...
820
00:32:39,305 --> 00:32:42,045
narrator: Today, many horror
fans and film scholars
821
00:32:42,090 --> 00:32:44,350
consider it a classic,
but in the '80s,
822
00:32:44,397 --> 00:32:47,357
"Maniac" helped set off
a moral panic.
823
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,180
[women shrieking]
- [grunts loudly]
824
00:32:49,228 --> 00:32:51,618
- Horror became a--
a dirty word, I think,
825
00:32:51,665 --> 00:32:53,355
in the late '70s, early '80s,
826
00:32:53,406 --> 00:32:55,576
and I think that the reason
for that was the--
827
00:32:55,625 --> 00:32:57,535
the explosion
of slasher movies.
828
00:32:57,584 --> 00:33:00,544
[themes overlapping
and building]
829
00:33:00,587 --> 00:33:07,637
♪
830
00:33:10,292 --> 00:33:12,082
- A new breed
of "shriek merchants"
831
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,430
has exploited
the once honorable genre
832
00:33:14,470 --> 00:33:16,080
of the terror film.
833
00:33:16,124 --> 00:33:19,304
- It was a very cheap form
of horror entertainment,
834
00:33:19,345 --> 00:33:21,905
and those slasher films
got a lot of bad press
835
00:33:21,956 --> 00:33:23,216
for brutalizing women,
836
00:33:23,262 --> 00:33:25,442
for violence, for the gore,
837
00:33:25,481 --> 00:33:27,791
and--and the people making
legitimate horror films
838
00:33:27,831 --> 00:33:30,361
were afraid that they were
gonna be tainted, uh,
839
00:33:30,399 --> 00:33:33,449
by the legacy of a lot
of these slasher knock-offs.
840
00:33:33,489 --> 00:33:35,059
- I think a lot of people
have the wrong idea.
841
00:33:35,100 --> 00:33:37,060
They identify these films
with earlier thrillers
842
00:33:37,102 --> 00:33:38,892
like "Psycho,"
or even a more recent film
843
00:33:38,929 --> 00:33:40,629
like "Halloween,"
which we both like.
844
00:33:40,670 --> 00:33:42,190
These films aren't
in the same category.
845
00:33:42,237 --> 00:33:44,277
These films hate women.
846
00:33:44,326 --> 00:33:45,496
- [shrieking]
847
00:33:45,545 --> 00:33:46,975
[flesh squelches,
shrieking stops]
848
00:33:47,025 --> 00:33:48,585
- But don't you find that
849
00:33:48,635 --> 00:33:51,155
in a really effective
horror movie,
850
00:33:51,203 --> 00:33:53,033
blood stains the critics' eyes?
851
00:33:53,074 --> 00:33:54,824
Like, once you get
blood in your eyes...
852
00:33:54,858 --> 00:33:56,638
- Yes, yes.
- You can't wash it out.
853
00:33:56,686 --> 00:33:58,596
They can't see anything else...
- Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
854
00:33:58,645 --> 00:34:00,515
- Other than the kill,
and they also feel like
855
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,000
if they like the movie,
856
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,820
that they're endorsing
that for real--
857
00:34:03,867 --> 00:34:05,347
or that kind of violence.
- Yeah.
858
00:34:05,391 --> 00:34:07,051
- So--so most often,
those reviews just become
859
00:34:07,088 --> 00:34:08,788
a soapbox to be like,
"Look, I'm a good person.
860
00:34:08,829 --> 00:34:10,479
"I'm a good person.
I don't like
861
00:34:10,526 --> 00:34:12,136
this sort of thing,"
but the truth is, we love it.
862
00:34:12,180 --> 00:34:14,660
It's like it's--
it's the enjoying fantasy,
863
00:34:14,704 --> 00:34:16,454
enjoying a scary story.
It's like, it's--
864
00:34:16,489 --> 00:34:19,229
it's no different
from "Grimms' Fairy Tales."
865
00:34:19,274 --> 00:34:21,844
[suspenseful organ music]
866
00:34:21,885 --> 00:34:24,705
- The slasher films celebrate
the female character
867
00:34:24,758 --> 00:34:26,498
because they're
the final girls.
868
00:34:26,542 --> 00:34:29,112
The people who--who survive
the slasher movies
869
00:34:29,154 --> 00:34:31,204
are the final girls,
870
00:34:31,243 --> 00:34:33,203
and that's who
you identify with,
871
00:34:33,245 --> 00:34:34,635
and that's the smart one.
872
00:34:34,681 --> 00:34:36,251
The women are the ones
who are smart.
873
00:34:36,291 --> 00:34:38,211
It's the sex-crazed guys
bringing their girlfriends
874
00:34:38,250 --> 00:34:40,170
to have sex that,
you know, get slaughtered.
875
00:34:40,208 --> 00:34:42,118
- [gasps]
876
00:34:42,167 --> 00:34:44,257
- Most of the feminists
who were against horror
877
00:34:44,299 --> 00:34:46,779
were not really
watching these films
878
00:34:46,823 --> 00:34:48,483
or analyzing them, you know?
879
00:34:48,521 --> 00:34:50,481
They were just sort of, like,
"Pornography is bad.
880
00:34:50,523 --> 00:34:52,003
Horror films are bad."
You know?
881
00:34:52,046 --> 00:34:53,866
So they weren't actually
engaging with the genre.
882
00:34:53,917 --> 00:34:56,307
- These women in danger films
all really boil down
883
00:34:56,355 --> 00:34:58,225
to just one same image,
884
00:34:58,270 --> 00:34:59,840
one disturbing image:
885
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,540
a woman screaming
in abject terror.
886
00:35:02,578 --> 00:35:04,148
- Usually it's the people
who don't actually
887
00:35:04,189 --> 00:35:05,669
know anything about the topic
888
00:35:05,712 --> 00:35:07,372
that are the loudest
complainers about it.
889
00:35:07,409 --> 00:35:09,499
- And unfortunately,
the audiences that go to them
890
00:35:09,542 --> 00:35:11,202
don't seem to like women
too much, either.
891
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,149
- In the '80s,
"The New York Times" conducted,
892
00:35:13,198 --> 00:35:15,678
um, a poll with theatergoers
893
00:35:15,722 --> 00:35:17,942
to find out who was seeing
these slasher films,
894
00:35:17,985 --> 00:35:20,285
and they found out
that 45% of the audience
895
00:35:20,335 --> 00:35:22,245
was made up of adolescents.
896
00:35:22,294 --> 00:35:25,044
55% of that audience was women.
897
00:35:25,079 --> 00:35:27,039
[women screaming, wailing]
- [gagged screaming]
898
00:35:27,081 --> 00:35:29,171
narrator: "Maniac,"
its slasher cousins,
899
00:35:29,214 --> 00:35:30,744
and the Reagan
assassination attempt...
900
00:35:30,780 --> 00:35:32,570
[gunshots]
901
00:35:32,608 --> 00:35:34,088
Triggered a crackdown
902
00:35:34,132 --> 00:35:35,442
on realistic violence
and gore.
903
00:35:35,481 --> 00:35:37,351
- [screaming]
- By 1984,
904
00:35:37,396 --> 00:35:40,266
the golden age
of slasher films was over,
905
00:35:40,312 --> 00:35:42,662
but audiences
still wanted their scares.
906
00:35:42,705 --> 00:35:44,785
- [shrieks]
- So film makers created
907
00:35:44,838 --> 00:35:46,538
a new kind of monster.
908
00:35:46,579 --> 00:35:48,319
[sinister music]
909
00:35:51,105 --> 00:35:53,495
- Okay, show her.
- [gasps]
910
00:35:55,327 --> 00:35:58,067
Well, is it a Good Guy or not?
911
00:35:58,112 --> 00:36:00,032
- It is.
It is!
912
00:36:00,070 --> 00:36:01,680
Wow.
- A Good Guy!
913
00:36:01,724 --> 00:36:03,474
- One of the first
experiences of horror
914
00:36:03,509 --> 00:36:06,599
was, uh, "Child's Play."
915
00:36:06,642 --> 00:36:08,642
- Hi, I'm Chucky,
916
00:36:08,688 --> 00:36:10,208
and I'm your friend
to the end.
917
00:36:10,255 --> 00:36:12,205
Hi-de-ho!
[laughs]
918
00:36:12,257 --> 00:36:13,557
- [giggling]
- When I first saw that,
919
00:36:13,606 --> 00:36:14,996
I was about four--
920
00:36:15,042 --> 00:36:16,442
four or five.
921
00:36:16,478 --> 00:36:18,348
So it was just this little
doll and it was cute
922
00:36:18,393 --> 00:36:21,143
and then all of the sudden,
it just came alive.
923
00:36:21,179 --> 00:36:22,619
And it's--it's always
those moments
924
00:36:22,658 --> 00:36:24,488
where the camera is moving...
925
00:36:24,530 --> 00:36:26,100
[suspenseful music]
- [panting softly]
926
00:36:26,140 --> 00:36:27,790
- [gasps]
927
00:36:27,837 --> 00:36:30,537
- But you don't--it's kind of
the POV of the doll
928
00:36:30,579 --> 00:36:33,629
that just, like...
it--it just drove me crazy.
929
00:36:33,669 --> 00:36:35,449
- [shouting]
930
00:36:36,890 --> 00:36:39,850
[screams]
931
00:36:39,893 --> 00:36:41,203
- And I can be honest.
To this day,
932
00:36:41,242 --> 00:36:42,942
I'm still affected by that.
933
00:36:42,983 --> 00:36:45,863
- Nobody believes you
about Chucky.
934
00:36:45,899 --> 00:36:48,949
[inhales deeply] Unless you
start telling the truth...
935
00:36:48,989 --> 00:36:50,899
right now...
936
00:36:50,947 --> 00:36:52,987
they're going to
take you away from me.
937
00:36:53,036 --> 00:36:54,336
- It's about a mother trying
938
00:36:54,386 --> 00:36:56,516
to hold her family together,
939
00:36:56,562 --> 00:36:59,002
defend her--her son
against this, you know--
940
00:36:59,042 --> 00:37:01,612
against the charges
of being a--a murderer.
941
00:37:01,654 --> 00:37:03,704
I mean, a seven-year-old boy?
Horrible.
942
00:37:03,743 --> 00:37:05,273
And the boy may be mad.
943
00:37:05,310 --> 00:37:07,050
He keeps insisting
that his little--
944
00:37:07,094 --> 00:37:08,924
that his doll
is talking to him.
945
00:37:08,965 --> 00:37:10,575
- Come on, Chucky,
946
00:37:10,619 --> 00:37:12,529
say something!
947
00:37:12,578 --> 00:37:14,228
Tell me!
948
00:37:14,275 --> 00:37:16,225
- Hi, I'm Chucky,
949
00:37:16,277 --> 00:37:18,237
and I'm your friend to the end.
950
00:37:18,279 --> 00:37:19,929
Hi-dee-ho!
[laughs]
951
00:37:19,976 --> 00:37:21,366
- [grunts]
952
00:37:21,413 --> 00:37:23,203
[sinister music]
953
00:37:23,241 --> 00:37:25,501
- To me,
horror is always about
954
00:37:25,547 --> 00:37:27,107
violating the sacred.
955
00:37:27,157 --> 00:37:29,807
Take a child--
something that we all look at
956
00:37:29,856 --> 00:37:32,986
and coo over and look after
and dote on--
957
00:37:33,033 --> 00:37:34,383
and make them...
958
00:37:34,426 --> 00:37:37,206
the most evil [bleep]
out there.
959
00:37:37,255 --> 00:37:40,735
And a child's toy
is sacred too.
960
00:37:40,780 --> 00:37:43,520
These are things
we grow up with, and you--
961
00:37:43,565 --> 00:37:46,825
you--you basically cast
horror's black shadow, uh,
962
00:37:46,873 --> 00:37:51,183
over all this sacred,
righteous stuff.
963
00:37:51,225 --> 00:37:52,705
- [deep voice]
You stupid bitch!
964
00:37:52,748 --> 00:37:54,228
- [screaming]
- You filthy slut!
965
00:37:54,272 --> 00:37:56,102
I'll teach you
to [bleep] with me!
966
00:37:56,143 --> 00:37:57,973
- No! No!
- In the 1980s,
967
00:37:58,014 --> 00:38:00,234
advertisers had started
968
00:38:00,278 --> 00:38:03,668
to target children directly.
969
00:38:03,716 --> 00:38:06,066
- Brought to you exclusively
by Play Pals,
970
00:38:06,109 --> 00:38:08,019
makers of Good Guys
and other fine toys.
971
00:38:08,068 --> 00:38:09,808
- It's like children
had become
972
00:38:09,852 --> 00:38:11,992
these little
consumerist monsters
973
00:38:12,028 --> 00:38:14,378
who could, you know,
coerce their parents
974
00:38:14,422 --> 00:38:16,422
into getting them more
and more stuff
975
00:38:16,468 --> 00:38:18,338
that they didn't need.
976
00:38:18,383 --> 00:38:20,603
- Well, what do you think?
- I want a Good Guy
977
00:38:20,646 --> 00:38:22,296
to go with it.
978
00:38:22,343 --> 00:38:24,653
- I know you do, Andy,
but I didn't know about it
979
00:38:24,693 --> 00:38:26,653
in time this month
to save up for it.
980
00:38:26,695 --> 00:38:29,175
- I remember
my mother telling me
981
00:38:29,219 --> 00:38:31,569
a crazy story
about fighting someone
982
00:38:31,613 --> 00:38:34,963
in a dark alley
for a Cabbage Patch Kid.
983
00:38:35,008 --> 00:38:37,878
- ♪ I got my doll,
I got my doll! ♪
984
00:38:37,924 --> 00:38:40,104
- We can see this line between
985
00:38:40,143 --> 00:38:42,843
the "direct to children
as consumers" advertising
986
00:38:42,885 --> 00:38:45,445
on the one hand
and the potential consequences
987
00:38:45,497 --> 00:38:49,677
of what that brings
into the home on the other.
988
00:38:49,718 --> 00:38:51,458
- [bellowing]
- [exclaims in fear]
989
00:38:51,503 --> 00:38:54,643
[screams]
- [growling]
990
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,030
- I was asking for--
for them to create a doll
991
00:38:58,074 --> 00:38:59,864
that had never been
created before
992
00:38:59,902 --> 00:39:01,382
to do things on film
that had never
993
00:39:01,426 --> 00:39:03,296
been done before.
994
00:39:03,341 --> 00:39:06,001
This is a breath before CGI.
There was no way out.
995
00:39:06,039 --> 00:39:08,219
It was all on camera,
live or die.
996
00:39:08,258 --> 00:39:09,998
[sinister music]
997
00:39:10,043 --> 00:39:12,833
And we built the apartment
up--the apartment set--
998
00:39:12,872 --> 00:39:16,442
four feet off the ground.
999
00:39:16,484 --> 00:39:18,184
We punched holes
through the set
1000
00:39:18,225 --> 00:39:20,135
behind the doll
so you couldn't see the wires
1001
00:39:20,183 --> 00:39:22,273
directly behind it.
1002
00:39:22,316 --> 00:39:24,666
- [hollering]
1003
00:39:24,710 --> 00:39:26,100
- [groans]
1004
00:39:26,146 --> 00:39:27,836
- [shouts]
1005
00:39:27,887 --> 00:39:30,757
- I mean, I used
every trick in the book
1006
00:39:30,803 --> 00:39:33,413
to try to maintain...
1007
00:39:33,458 --> 00:39:36,718
the illusion that the doll
was alive and moving.
1008
00:39:36,765 --> 00:39:39,115
- Hi.
1009
00:39:39,159 --> 00:39:40,469
It's me, Chucky.
1010
00:39:40,508 --> 00:39:43,338
What do you think?
1011
00:39:43,381 --> 00:39:46,341
[ominous piano chords]
- Mommy...
1012
00:39:46,384 --> 00:39:47,914
- I mean, think about it:
you're being chased
1013
00:39:47,950 --> 00:39:50,820
by something this big
with a knife!
1014
00:39:50,866 --> 00:39:52,216
You know, I mean...
[stammering]
1015
00:39:52,259 --> 00:39:53,779
You know, how do you sell that?
1016
00:39:53,826 --> 00:39:56,516
- [hissing]
- [screams]
1017
00:39:56,568 --> 00:39:59,138
- Well...did, didn't we?
1018
00:39:59,179 --> 00:40:01,219
- Chucky is a piece
of horror history.
1019
00:40:01,268 --> 00:40:02,748
Chucky's face sits
1020
00:40:02,791 --> 00:40:05,491
on that horror
Hall of Fame board
1021
00:40:05,533 --> 00:40:07,883
right next to the guy
in the hockey mask,
1022
00:40:07,927 --> 00:40:10,447
right next
to the Michael Myers mask,
1023
00:40:10,495 --> 00:40:12,275
Freddy's glove...
1024
00:40:12,322 --> 00:40:13,452
he's in there.
1025
00:40:13,498 --> 00:40:16,538
- [screaming, groaning]
1026
00:40:16,588 --> 00:40:18,148
narrator: "Child's Play"
was violent,
1027
00:40:18,198 --> 00:40:19,718
but no one would mistake it
1028
00:40:19,765 --> 00:40:21,975
for the grim realism
of "Maniac."
1029
00:40:22,028 --> 00:40:24,118
[terrifying music]
1030
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,380
- [screams]
1031
00:40:26,424 --> 00:40:28,644
- [grunts]
- [screams]
1032
00:40:28,687 --> 00:40:31,037
narrator: Chucky was
following a trail blazed
1033
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:32,690
by one of the most
famous characters
1034
00:40:32,734 --> 00:40:34,134
in the history of horror...
1035
00:40:34,170 --> 00:40:37,220
- [cackling]
- Freddy Krueger.
1036
00:40:37,260 --> 00:40:38,830
- You know,
"Nightmare on Elm Street"
1037
00:40:38,871 --> 00:40:40,481
came out in 1984,
1038
00:40:40,525 --> 00:40:42,215
and I remember
seeing that movie
1039
00:40:42,265 --> 00:40:44,045
and I was so excited
about the fact that,
1040
00:40:44,093 --> 00:40:46,493
"Ooh, there's a new twist
to this sub-genre,"
1041
00:40:46,531 --> 00:40:48,841
that now the rules of--
1042
00:40:48,881 --> 00:40:52,321
of any sort of world
don't apply.
1043
00:40:52,362 --> 00:40:54,102
narrator: In part two,
we'll see how
1044
00:40:54,147 --> 00:40:55,757
"A Nightmare on Elm Street"
1045
00:40:55,801 --> 00:40:58,111
brought slashers back
from the grave...
1046
00:40:58,151 --> 00:41:00,281
- Freddy is in the imagination
1047
00:41:00,327 --> 00:41:01,717
of the person he's haunting...
1048
00:41:01,763 --> 00:41:03,503
- [screams]
- And the imagination
1049
00:41:03,548 --> 00:41:05,328
is larger than life.
1050
00:41:05,375 --> 00:41:07,195
narrator: Dive into
the psychosexual darkness
1051
00:41:07,247 --> 00:41:08,937
of "Candyman"...
1052
00:41:08,988 --> 00:41:10,768
- You have to be able
to deliver the scares,
1053
00:41:10,816 --> 00:41:12,506
and you have to be able
to make people talk about it
1054
00:41:12,557 --> 00:41:14,557
long after you've gone.
1055
00:41:14,602 --> 00:41:16,692
narrator: Watch as "Scream"
turns the genre inside-out...
1056
00:41:16,735 --> 00:41:18,475
- [screaming]
- I thought I was in
1057
00:41:18,519 --> 00:41:20,169
a documentary
about a serial killer,
1058
00:41:20,216 --> 00:41:24,436
and they're playing this,
you know, for laughs.
1059
00:41:24,482 --> 00:41:25,922
narrator: "The Silence of
the Lambs"
1060
00:41:25,961 --> 00:41:27,831
makes grisly horror
respectable.
1061
00:41:27,876 --> 00:41:29,176
- Love your suit.
1062
00:41:29,225 --> 00:41:30,875
[saw buzzing]
1063
00:41:30,923 --> 00:41:33,013
narrator: And 21st-century
anxiety leads
1064
00:41:33,055 --> 00:41:36,835
to the no-holds-barred terror
of "Saw" and "Hostel."
1065
00:41:36,885 --> 00:41:38,795
- [muffled hollering]
- People who don't
1066
00:41:38,844 --> 00:41:41,804
see these films take them
way more seriously
1067
00:41:41,847 --> 00:41:43,757
than the people who do.
1068
00:41:43,805 --> 00:41:45,545
- [screaming]
- We wanted to make something
1069
00:41:45,590 --> 00:41:47,940
that was super scary,
and we'd inadvertently
1070
00:41:47,983 --> 00:41:50,903
become known as the kings
of torture porn.
1071
00:41:50,943 --> 00:41:52,213
- [screaming]
1072
00:41:53,598 --> 00:41:55,508
- [cackling]
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