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[ominous music]
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- The zombie is absolutely
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all-American horror metaphor.
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- [growling]
- They are the monster
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of the 21st century.
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- Right now it does seem like
we're in the middle
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of a zombie apocalypse.
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- We're getting our chance
to exercise
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our most anti-social emotions.
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- [screaming]
- You know, that--
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that mob impulse that's like,
"Yeah, kill them all
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and let God sort them out."
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[zombies groaning]
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- Eventually
they overwhelm you.
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They're not stopping to eat.
- [screaming]
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- Well, I mean,
unless they're stopping
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to eat one of you.
- We're all gonna die.
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We all are gonna
get cancer one day.
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We're all gonna get sick.
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It's almost like
an accelerated version of that.
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- We don't want zombies
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to come and destroy
all of our friends
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and family and institutions...
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but on some level,
maybe we do.
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Like, on some level
it provides us a chance
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to just dismantle
everything...
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[frantic music]
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And possibly start over.
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- [screaming]
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- What are humans like
when faced with the end
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of humanity?
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What are they like
when they're faced
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with very few choices
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in--in regards
to how to survive?
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That's the horror
of zombie movies.
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- No!
- It's the wrong impulses
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that come out of people
that are far more terrifying
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than the walking dead.
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[zombies growling, screeching]
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♪
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[sinister music]
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♪
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[foreboding music]
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- I'm Eli Roth.
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- [hissing]
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- The history of horror
is filled with monsters.
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Nightmare figures that tap
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into our deepest fears.
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♪
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But our fears,
and our monsters,
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change with the times.
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♪
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Right now, it's the time
of the zombie.
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[zombies growling, screeching]
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Fast zombies, slow zombies,
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comedy zombies,
teen zombies...
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- [screaming]
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- Whatever their shape,
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zombies are everywhere.
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How did we get here?
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What set off zombie fever?
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As we'll see,
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zombies have been around
for decades.
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[zombies hissing, growling]
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♪
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But the debut
of "The Walking Dead"
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in 2010 saw them explode
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into popular culture.
- [growling]
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- To almost everyone's
surprise, a horror series
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became the most popular show
on television.
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♪
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- My brother's kids--
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ten years old, five years--
they watch "Walking Dead."
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- [yells]
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- Kids eight years old
watch "Walking Dead."
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What is it
about "Walking Dead"
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that zombies have become so,
almost normalized
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that kids love it.
- [clears throat]
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- They don't take it seriously.
I think it's amazing.
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- Well...
- "Walking Dead" plays
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like a family show.
- It's all about
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the characters.
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♪
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You can follow
this group of people
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as they struggle to survive
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week after week
after week after week.
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- [hissing]
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♪
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- You can see them live,
you can see them die,
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you can see everything
that they go through
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with the zombie apocalypse
set as the backdrop.
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[zombies growling]
- [panting]
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- Everybody wants to...
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think that they would be able
to survive
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the zombie apocalypse.
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- [grunting, exclaiming]
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- You figure, "What would I do
to survive?"
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Uh, because that is the crux
of the show,
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ordinary people who
all of a sudden
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are thrust into
an extraordinary situation.
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which always give you
some of the best drama.
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- [zombie growling]
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- Are you gonna fight
for what you believe in?
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Are you gonna be
the type of person
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that runs away from it?
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You know, there's no status
and--and fame,
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and money, and uh,
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there's none
of that bull[bleep].
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- The apocalyptic simulation
is really an interesting
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sociological experiment
about, you know,
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who do people become,
and who would I become,
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and what would be okay
if the rules weren't
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the same anymore?
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I want to be a Michonne...
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[zombies hissing]
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But I'm probably more of, um...
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I don't know, a Eugene.
[laughs]
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- You got a name, ass[bleep]?
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- Eugene.
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- They're coming to get you,
Barbara.
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- Stop it!
You're acting like a child.
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- They're coming for you.
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Look, there comes
one of them now.
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- Without George Romero and
"Night of the Living Dead,"
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there would be
no "Walking Dead."
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"Night of the Living Dead"
laid the template
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for every zombie
survival story that followed.
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It's a simple plot--
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six people trapped
in a farmhouse
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surrounded by
the flesh-eating undead--
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but it changed everything.
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- You got to see
the boundary pushed
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going from
the 1950s creatures--
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the man in the rubber suit--
to like, graphic viscera.
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- Mm-hmm.
- What was it like seeing it
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pushed farther and farther?
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[zombies growling]
- I can remember just
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sort of wandering into
a screening
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of "Night of the Living Dead."
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The whole place was full
of kids--it was like
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a Saturday matinee--
and they're all, you know,
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yelling and grab-assing around
and throwing
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their popcorn boxes,
and that thing got going
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and they just fell
entirely silent.
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- [zombie growling]
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- [weeping]
- And I was scared, too.
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The first time that you see
something like that,
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you're not prepared
for what you're looking at.
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[sinister music]
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- George Romero
really creates the rules.
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I mean, the whole thing
of, like, if you get bit,
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you turned into one...
- Yeah.
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- Shoot them in the head...
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♪
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That didn't exist before.
- Those rules
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for the modern-day zombie
were created 50 years ago.
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- By George Romero.
- If I were surrounded
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by six or eight
of these things, would I stand
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a chance with them?
- Well, there's no problem.
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If you had a gun,
shoot 'em in the head.
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That's a sure way to kill 'em.
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If you don't, get yourself
a club or a torch.
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Beat 'em or burn 'em.
They go up pretty easy.
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♪
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- It almost feels like
the zombie movie--
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there's like a quantum leap
that happens
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where there are
different phases.
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Like the 1930s and '40s,
it was the--
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"I Walked With a Zombie."
It was "White Zombie."
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It was the hypnotist zombie.
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It was a mad scientist
on an island
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that has found a way
to raise the dead
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and enslave them.
- A lot of zombie films
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were about people
who had been just stripped
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of their identity
and were slaves, almost.
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You know, they could be
workers, or they could just
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sort of shamble and look scary,
but they weren't attacking
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and biting and killing
like they did
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in "Night of the Living Dead."
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- Baby...
[gasps]
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[whimpering]
- Mean, there were things
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that were so transgressive
in that movie.
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- [whimpering]
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[wailing]
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- The little girl stabs
her mother to death.
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- The little kid
killing her mom, that had--
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no one had ever seen
anything like that.
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- The first time you see it,
you're just horrified.
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You can't believe
what you're seeing.
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- [screeching]
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- "Night of the Living Dead"
was much more
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of a claustrophobic nightmare
kind of experience,
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"Night of the Living Dead"
is also, uh,
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somewhat facetious,
and it's also--
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it has its
sociopolitical allegory.
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- What's important about
"Night of the Living Dead"
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is the fact that the travails
of the people
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locked in that house
are really a microcosm
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of what's going on
in American society
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- [indistinct]
- The tumult of the late 1960s
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is reflected in the fear
and the--the violence
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that--that occur in
and around that house.
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- That movie's revolutionary
in many, many ways
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and had profound impact--
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the fact it had
a black lead--
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[suspenseful music]
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- [groans]
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- Which George always said
was not deliberate.
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It was that Duane was
the best actor.
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I don't believe him.
I think it was deliberate.
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- With all of us working,
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we can fix this place up
in no time.
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We have everything we need
up here.
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- We can take all that stuff
downstairs with us.
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Man, you're really crazy,
you know that?
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- Let's say you're a--
a white viewer
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in the late 1960s...
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who has a few prejudices, say,
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and is a little bit worried
that the world is ending
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because of all of the, uh,
racial legislation
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of the '60s--
The Voting Rights Act,
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The Civil Rights Act--
and here's this zombie film
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where the dead
are coming back to life
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and a black man is in charge.
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- I don't want anyone's life
on my hands.
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- Is there anything I can do?
- I don't wanna hear any more
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from you, mister.
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If you stay up here,
you take orders from me.
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- I will contend that
that might have been
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as frightening to some viewers
as the child eating her mother
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in the basement.
[laughing]
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[sinister music]
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- What we get is potentially
something hopeful, you know,
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with the African-American
protagonist--
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like maybe some new direction
socially--
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but instead it just turns
into vigilante justice
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represented by
a white lynch mob.
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You can imagine the--the shock
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that audiences must have felt
to--to be coaxed
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into identifying
with a black man
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only to have him shot
and then pitchforked
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onto a pile of burning bodies
at the end.
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That's a slap.
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That's a direct slap
to any audience,
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right wing or left wing.
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- "The Night
of the Living Dead"
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does not end on any kind
of triumph.
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Your hero is shot by police.
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It's the most upsetting ending
in cinema.
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And then that has continued
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through horror cinema
of actually--
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It doesn't always have
a happy ending.
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♪
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I think that's the joy
of horror cinema,
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is that it can, like,
affect you in lots
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of different ways.
- If George Romero
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had only made
"Night of the Living Dead,"
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he would still be a legend...
- [growling]
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- But he didn't stop.
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"Night of the Living Dead"
and its sequels
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changed the course
of film history.
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and inspired the best
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the horror genre has to offer.
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- [groaning]
- He was such a big influence
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on "Shaun of the Dead."
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We liked this idea
of our film taking place
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within George Romero's
universe.
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- [yelling]
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[grunts]
- "Shaun of the Dead"
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was so well done
that it opened the floodgates
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to, like, everybody to try
and make a zombie movie.
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[dramatic music]
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- Today, zombie movies
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and TV shows are everywhere.
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but not so long ago,
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they had virtually
disappeared.
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Edgar Wright's
"Shaun of the Dead"
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helped bring them back
bigger than ever.
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[sinister music]
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[zombies moaning]
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- When we thought up the idea
for "Shaun of the Dead,"
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one of the inspirations for it
is because there hadn't been
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a zombie film
for, like, 15 years.
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♪
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We always had this theory
that, like, uh,
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John Landis' video
for "Thriller"
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sort of killed off zombies
for the second half
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of the '80s and early '90s.
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- [menacing laughter]
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- So I think what happened was,
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all of a sudden
the zombie genre--
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which traditionally had
probably sort of died out...
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- Yeah.
- A little bit--
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and then all of a sudden
you have all these
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zombie video games
and they're like, "[bleep],
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man, people love
shooting zombies."
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- It was around, like,
the late 1990s
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when "Resident Evil" came out--
the game.
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[gunfire]
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- [zombie groans]
- So people started
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to take an interest
in the genre again.
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[foreboding music]
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- Every now and then,
we see a movie
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that is supposedly horror...
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but yet uses
social commentary brilliantly,
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and the best example
is "Shaun of the Dead."
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[cheerful music]
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You want to know
where Britain was
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at that time, you look at
"Shaun of the Dead."
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- [groaning]
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- In the '90s and the dawn
of the new century,
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we were in a new phase
in Britain...
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and a whole new generation
of Britons were asking:
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"What's next?"
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And they were a little lost.
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[gunfire]
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- Hey, man, listen, um--
oh, top left.
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- Uh-huh.
- I was gonna say--
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reload.
- I'm on it.
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- And it was brilliant.
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- What I love about
"Shaun of the Dead"
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is they're not making fun of...
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zombie movies,
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they're making
a funny zombie movie.
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- I'm not gonna say,
"If you love her, let her go,"
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and I'm not gonna bombard you
with clichés.
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But what I will say is this...
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[chuffs, sniffles]
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It's not the end of the world.
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[banging on glass]
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[sinister music]
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- And they play on
all the tropes...
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- Sorry, we're closed.
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- [moaning]
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- I'd been playing
"Resident Evil 3,"
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like, all night.
[laughs]
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My girlfriend at the time
had gone away...
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- [zombie groans]
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- And I promised her
I wouldn't play video games
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all weekend,
and I did exactly that.
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I remember, vividly,
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playing it until
the sun came up.
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[dramatic flair]
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- [snores, grunts]
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[coughs]
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- And then walking
across the street
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to the news agent
to get some milk
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to make some tea...
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and I walked across the street,
and it was completely empty
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on a Sunday morning.
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And the shop was
the only thing that was open,
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and in that moment,
I had a thought of thinking,
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"What would it be like if
if zombies were here right now,
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and what would I do?"
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Because we don't really
have guns in the UK,
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How would I defend myself?
- [coughing]
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- It's just
that little thought
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really sort of started
to inspire the sequence
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where Shaun walks
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to the store and back
hungover.
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- So the zombie apocalypse
has started,
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but he's still unaware of it.
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- [growling]
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- But he does this walk--
it's a long,
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steady cam shot--
and he goes into the shop
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and he doesn't notice...
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little things.
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[music playing over speakers]
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- The bloody handprints
on the wall,
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and he's walking away
from the refrigerator
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and he just slips in blood.
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[shoes squeaking]
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It's so subtle, but it's...
[laughing]
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It's such a great moment
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because you know--
you as the audience
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know what's coming--
his character doesn't
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know it yet, and it's--
he--he's still out of it.
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- Nelson.
- It's such a simple moment
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but it's one of my favorite
moments in the movie.
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- It's wonderful,
the way they show
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the collapse of society.
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[phone ringing]
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Zombies become a symbol
of anarchy,
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and the collapse
of the system,
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and all that protects us.
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- [indistinct]
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[zombies groaning]
- Top left!
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[lively music]
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- Ah!
- Reload.
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- I'm on it.
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- We wanted to stay true
to the spirit
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of "Night of the Living Dead"
and "Dawn of the Dead."
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[eerie music]
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The film is like a valentine
to George Romero
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because we love those movies.
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We're, like, sharing our deep,
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deep love for the subject.
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- Right down to its title,
"Shaun of the Dead"
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is a tribute to what
any horror fan will tell you
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is the greatest zombie film
of all time.
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00:15:26,664 --> 00:15:28,974
- There's no greater
zombie movie
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than "Dawn of the Dead."
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00:15:30,755 --> 00:15:33,275
- I think "Dawn of the Dead"
is a real masterpiece.
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00:15:33,323 --> 00:15:35,283
- It's that rare kind
of, like, nightmare world
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which you actually wouldn't--
I mean, maybe this is just me,
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00:15:38,024 --> 00:15:39,464
but you wouldn't mind
being in it.
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[laughing]
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00:15:40,852 --> 00:15:42,422
[zombies growling]
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00:15:45,814 --> 00:15:47,694
- No! No!
- George Romero's
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"Night of the Living Dead"
created the modern zombie.
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That was a hard act to follow,
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but the director topped it
with his sequel,
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"Dawn of the Dead."
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[zombies growling]
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00:15:58,958 --> 00:16:00,518
[sinister music]
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00:16:00,568 --> 00:16:02,398
"Dawn of the Dead"
was a potent mixture
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of horror, satire,
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and outrageous
special effects.
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- [screaming]
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[zombies growling]
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00:16:09,664 --> 00:16:11,584
- It's, uh, basically
a continuation of the--
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of "Night of the Living Dead,"
where zombies are
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taking over the world.
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[zombies growling]
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00:16:16,323 --> 00:16:17,933
- This was the first depiction
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of a full-scale
zombie apocalypse,
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a nightmare vision
of social collapse
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that became the template
for virtually
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every end-of-the-world story
we see today.
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00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,250
Once again, Romero used horror
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00:16:32,295 --> 00:16:34,555
to comment on American values.
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00:16:34,602 --> 00:16:38,172
- He is masterfully executing
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00:16:38,214 --> 00:16:41,044
all of those horror elements
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in a way that brings it
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00:16:43,045 --> 00:16:46,875
right to a social justice
scenario...
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- Martinez!
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00:16:49,182 --> 00:16:50,662
You've been watching!
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00:16:50,705 --> 00:16:53,315
You know we've got
this building surrounded!
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00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:58,100
- Particularly that opening
when in the ghettos,
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all of the poor
are keeping their loved ones
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hidden away from the rest
of the world,
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00:17:03,631 --> 00:17:05,681
because they know that
they will kill them.
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00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,850
- People in this project
are your responsibility.
444
00:17:08,897 --> 00:17:11,547
- In the first 20 minutes,
there's a SWAT team
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00:17:11,595 --> 00:17:13,075
raiding a house...
- Yeah.
446
00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:14,639
- And one
of the police officers
447
00:17:14,685 --> 00:17:16,465
is unbelievably racist.
448
00:17:16,513 --> 00:17:18,343
- Yeah, come on, Martinez.
Show your greasy little
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00:17:18,385 --> 00:17:20,385
Puerto Rican ass
so I can blow it right off.
450
00:17:20,430 --> 00:17:21,910
- And I was like,
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00:17:21,953 --> 00:17:24,173
"Why is this guy concerned
with racism?"
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00:17:24,217 --> 00:17:25,867
Like, there's zombies
in the building.
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00:17:25,914 --> 00:17:27,444
- [laughing]
- It was unbelievable.
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00:17:27,481 --> 00:17:29,091
I was like,
"Aren't there bigger problems?"
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00:17:29,135 --> 00:17:30,565
- Let's go, let's go!
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00:17:30,614 --> 00:17:32,794
[all shouting]
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00:17:33,922 --> 00:17:36,792
- That blew my mind as a kid
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00:17:36,838 --> 00:17:39,358
because I realized
I was watching
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a political story
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00:17:41,886 --> 00:17:44,056
about the race
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00:17:44,106 --> 00:17:45,716
and class system in America.
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00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:47,150
[bell ringing]
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00:17:47,196 --> 00:17:49,366
- After showing
society crumbling,
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the film shifts focus
to a small group of survivors
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who take refuge
in a suburban shopping mall.
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00:17:55,944 --> 00:17:57,774
- I think the great thing
about zombies
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00:17:57,815 --> 00:18:00,245
is they are like
a catch-all metaphor
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00:18:00,296 --> 00:18:03,386
of the world's ills,
and I think George Romero
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00:18:03,430 --> 00:18:05,480
doesn't really get
enough credit as a satirist
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as well as a horror film maker.
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00:18:07,260 --> 00:18:08,870
- Come on!
[shouting]
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00:18:08,913 --> 00:18:10,573
- "Dawn of the Dead"
being the most
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kind of savage statement
about the state of consumerism
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00:18:13,135 --> 00:18:14,785
in the late '70s.
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00:18:14,832 --> 00:18:16,272
[zombie growling]
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00:18:16,312 --> 00:18:18,622
The idea of
the mindless hordes
477
00:18:18,662 --> 00:18:20,402
flock to the big
fancy shopping mall...
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00:18:20,447 --> 00:18:22,747
[cheerful music]
479
00:18:22,797 --> 00:18:24,357
That was very pointed
and very funny.
480
00:18:24,407 --> 00:18:26,927
- What are they doing?
Why do they come here?
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00:18:26,975 --> 00:18:28,795
- Some kind of instinct.
482
00:18:28,846 --> 00:18:31,586
Memory of what
they used to do.
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00:18:31,632 --> 00:18:34,032
This was an important place
in their lives.
484
00:18:34,069 --> 00:18:36,159
- You can't watch that movie
and not become aware
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00:18:36,202 --> 00:18:38,812
of the fact
that this is a story about
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00:18:38,856 --> 00:18:41,076
what humans really are:
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00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:43,430
grasping, vampiric creatures
488
00:18:43,470 --> 00:18:45,600
that kind of return endlessly
to their old habits
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00:18:45,646 --> 00:18:48,126
because it's
what they're taught.
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00:18:48,170 --> 00:18:49,740
- I think "Dawn of the Dead"
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00:18:49,780 --> 00:18:52,170
should be sold in a box set
with "Easy Rider."
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00:18:52,218 --> 00:18:53,958
It should be called
"The Baby Boomers:
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The Beginning and the End."
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00:18:56,526 --> 00:18:59,696
Romero has managed
to distill...
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00:18:59,747 --> 00:19:01,487
[camera shutter snapping]
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00:19:01,531 --> 00:19:04,011
The worst of every generation
into all of his movies.
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00:19:04,055 --> 00:19:06,575
You see the baby boomers
498
00:19:06,623 --> 00:19:08,283
losing their souls.
499
00:19:08,321 --> 00:19:10,501
- What have we done
to ourselves?
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00:19:10,540 --> 00:19:12,190
- Because what Romero did
501
00:19:12,238 --> 00:19:14,888
was channel his outrage
502
00:19:14,936 --> 00:19:17,496
at his generation's
ultimate surrender
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00:19:17,547 --> 00:19:19,247
of all their ideals
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00:19:19,288 --> 00:19:21,068
and he put it in a movie.
- So, I mean,
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00:19:21,116 --> 00:19:23,506
if you were gonna go out and do
a talky little, uh, drama
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00:19:23,553 --> 00:19:26,213
to try to criticize
the consumer society
507
00:19:26,252 --> 00:19:27,862
that we have here,
you couldn't make
508
00:19:27,905 --> 00:19:29,855
$30 million, you know?
- That's for sure.
509
00:19:29,907 --> 00:19:31,907
- So, terrific.
You get a couple of jabs in
510
00:19:31,953 --> 00:19:33,963
while you're having fun
with the rollercoaster ride
511
00:19:33,998 --> 00:19:36,308
which really is the surface.
512
00:19:36,349 --> 00:19:38,739
[indistinct shouting]
513
00:19:38,786 --> 00:19:41,086
- Romero was a man
with a message,
514
00:19:41,136 --> 00:19:43,396
but his gleeful embrace
of gore
515
00:19:43,443 --> 00:19:45,453
made him a horror favorite.
516
00:19:45,488 --> 00:19:48,008
"Dawn of the Dead,"
I had never seen that level
517
00:19:48,056 --> 00:19:49,226
of a body count in a movie.
518
00:19:49,275 --> 00:19:51,315
[gunshots]
519
00:19:58,284 --> 00:20:00,904
- You're, like, watching like,
"Who made this?"
520
00:20:00,938 --> 00:20:02,638
- Yeah.
- Like, a maniac?
521
00:20:02,679 --> 00:20:04,769
[dramatic music]
522
00:20:04,812 --> 00:20:07,732
- But normally, one movie,
there'd be one kill
523
00:20:07,771 --> 00:20:09,381
that was amazing,
and it was like
524
00:20:09,425 --> 00:20:11,645
every 30 seconds,
each kill was different.
525
00:20:11,688 --> 00:20:12,988
[propeller whirring]
526
00:20:13,037 --> 00:20:14,597
That helicopter blade...
- Yeah.
527
00:20:14,648 --> 00:20:16,258
- Pulling it off the head...
- The guy with
528
00:20:16,302 --> 00:20:17,912
the giant forehead.
- Which--which if you were--
529
00:20:17,955 --> 00:20:19,565
- Exactly.
- By the way, when you're a kid
530
00:20:19,609 --> 00:20:21,089
you never see that coming.
531
00:20:21,132 --> 00:20:23,312
You see he staggers out
and his head...
532
00:20:23,352 --> 00:20:25,092
[all chattering]
533
00:20:25,136 --> 00:20:26,826
- You never put
two and two together.
534
00:20:26,877 --> 00:20:28,307
Now you look at it and go,
"Oh, of course, he's gonna
535
00:20:28,357 --> 00:20:30,487
get his head cut off."
536
00:20:31,360 --> 00:20:33,930
- Really accomplished
horror directors knew
537
00:20:33,971 --> 00:20:36,501
having Tom Savini doing
the make-up special effects
538
00:20:36,539 --> 00:20:38,539
that it was gonna
elevate that film.
539
00:20:38,585 --> 00:20:41,755
and give them a wider audience
than they ever anticipated.
540
00:20:41,805 --> 00:20:43,415
- Well, it was Halloween
every day.
541
00:20:43,459 --> 00:20:44,979
We did that for three months
in a shopping mall.
542
00:20:45,026 --> 00:20:46,896
- [growling]
543
00:20:46,941 --> 00:20:48,901
- 80% of the effects in that
were stuff that
544
00:20:48,943 --> 00:20:50,513
we came up with.
545
00:20:50,553 --> 00:20:52,123
We'd go to George and say,
"Hey, how about if we drive
546
00:20:52,163 --> 00:20:53,953
a screwdriver through--
through the zombies, here."
547
00:20:53,991 --> 00:20:56,121
And he'd go, "Okay."
548
00:20:56,167 --> 00:20:58,127
So then two hours later
we're making
549
00:20:58,169 --> 00:21:00,259
retractable screwdrivers
and, you know,
550
00:21:00,302 --> 00:21:02,302
making it bleed inside
a zombie's ear.
551
00:21:02,348 --> 00:21:03,868
[dramatic music]
552
00:21:03,914 --> 00:21:06,224
- But the scene
that makes you like, wonder,
553
00:21:06,265 --> 00:21:07,955
"Oh, wow...
554
00:21:08,005 --> 00:21:09,395
can I even handle this?"
555
00:21:09,442 --> 00:21:11,922
Is when the zombie
in the project--
556
00:21:11,966 --> 00:21:14,186
when, uh, his wife...
- [shouting]
557
00:21:14,229 --> 00:21:16,409
- He's still alive,
comes to her and--
558
00:21:16,449 --> 00:21:17,409
and embraces him.
559
00:21:17,450 --> 00:21:19,060
"My baby, my baby."
560
00:21:19,103 --> 00:21:20,893
And then she--he just bites--
561
00:21:20,931 --> 00:21:23,111
just a chunk out
of her shoulder.
562
00:21:23,151 --> 00:21:25,501
- Carlito...
- [growling]
563
00:21:25,545 --> 00:21:27,285
- [shrieking]
564
00:21:27,329 --> 00:21:28,939
- It just looks real.
565
00:21:28,983 --> 00:21:30,463
It just--it just--
566
00:21:30,506 --> 00:21:31,766
you buy it.
567
00:21:31,812 --> 00:21:34,032
- [screaming]
- If humans had
568
00:21:34,075 --> 00:21:37,115
shark-like mouths,
that's probably the effect
569
00:21:37,165 --> 00:21:38,685
of what would happen
570
00:21:38,732 --> 00:21:40,692
if a sharky human bit you.
571
00:21:40,734 --> 00:21:42,394
- [growling]
572
00:21:43,345 --> 00:21:44,605
- It's just an effect
we had never seen before,
573
00:21:44,651 --> 00:21:46,131
and it draws a line
in the sand.
574
00:21:46,174 --> 00:21:47,704
"Am I ready
for the rest of this?"
575
00:21:47,741 --> 00:21:49,351
[sinister music]
576
00:21:49,395 --> 00:21:52,085
- George Romero's vision
was so influential
577
00:21:52,136 --> 00:21:54,746
that for decades,
most screen zombies
578
00:21:54,791 --> 00:21:57,751
were slow-moving ghouls.
579
00:21:57,794 --> 00:21:59,754
But in 2002,
580
00:21:59,796 --> 00:22:02,096
Danny Boyle's
"28 Days Later"
581
00:22:02,146 --> 00:22:03,626
gave us a zombie
582
00:22:03,670 --> 00:22:05,980
for the fast-moving
21st century
583
00:22:06,020 --> 00:22:07,940
and set off a controversy
584
00:22:07,978 --> 00:22:09,978
that rages to this day.
585
00:22:10,024 --> 00:22:12,374
- I'm a slow zombie guy.
- I like fast zombies.
586
00:22:12,418 --> 00:22:15,158
- I'm a card-carrying
slow zombie fan.
587
00:22:15,203 --> 00:22:16,993
[zombies screeching, growling]
588
00:22:19,773 --> 00:22:21,603
[dark music]
589
00:22:21,644 --> 00:22:24,174
- Imagine waking up in a world
ravaged by a disease
590
00:22:24,212 --> 00:22:26,262
that turns ordinary people
591
00:22:26,301 --> 00:22:28,431
into mindless predators
driven to kill.
592
00:22:28,477 --> 00:22:30,257
♪
593
00:22:30,305 --> 00:22:32,995
This is the premise
of "28 Days Later,"
594
00:22:33,047 --> 00:22:36,007
director Danny Boyle's
groundbreaking reinvention
595
00:22:36,050 --> 00:22:37,090
of the zombie film.
596
00:22:37,138 --> 00:22:39,178
[zombie screaming]
597
00:22:41,098 --> 00:22:42,878
[hissing]
- [yells]
598
00:22:42,926 --> 00:22:45,536
- Fight! Fight!
599
00:22:45,581 --> 00:22:47,151
- "28 Days Later"
600
00:22:47,191 --> 00:22:50,111
is a perfect horror movie
601
00:22:50,151 --> 00:22:52,891
because it's based
on a premise
602
00:22:52,936 --> 00:22:54,936
you can completely believe.
603
00:22:54,982 --> 00:22:56,722
- [growling]
- I don't know what it's like
604
00:22:56,766 --> 00:22:58,636
to be bitten by a vampire.
- [roaring]
605
00:22:58,681 --> 00:23:00,121
- I don't know what it's like
to be threatened
606
00:23:00,161 --> 00:23:01,901
by a werewolf.
- [indistinct]
607
00:23:01,945 --> 00:23:03,375
[electronic interference]
608
00:23:03,425 --> 00:23:05,685
- But I can imagine
what it's like...
609
00:23:05,732 --> 00:23:08,782
to have a plague spread
like wildfire
610
00:23:08,822 --> 00:23:11,432
because it's just too close
611
00:23:11,477 --> 00:23:13,907
to the headlines
of today's news.
612
00:23:13,957 --> 00:23:15,737
- [growling]
613
00:23:15,785 --> 00:23:17,435
[hissing]
- It could happen.
614
00:23:17,483 --> 00:23:18,793
[dramatic music]
615
00:23:18,832 --> 00:23:20,572
- "28 Days Later" came out
616
00:23:20,616 --> 00:23:23,136
a year after 9/11,
and it includes
617
00:23:23,184 --> 00:23:25,194
these really haunting scenes
618
00:23:25,229 --> 00:23:27,449
of a deserted London...
619
00:23:27,493 --> 00:23:30,763
♪
620
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,930
Missing persons flyers
pasted to bulletin boards
621
00:23:33,977 --> 00:23:36,237
like we saw post 9/11...
622
00:23:36,284 --> 00:23:38,424
♪
623
00:23:38,460 --> 00:23:41,120
It also was able to, uh,
624
00:23:41,158 --> 00:23:44,028
capitalize on a lot of the--
the anxieties
625
00:23:44,074 --> 00:23:45,954
and fears of the time.
626
00:23:45,989 --> 00:23:47,469
♪
627
00:23:47,513 --> 00:23:49,473
SARS and anthrax
628
00:23:49,515 --> 00:23:52,775
and Mad Cow's Disease,
bird flues...
629
00:23:52,822 --> 00:23:54,822
- [hissing]
- Father...
630
00:23:54,868 --> 00:23:57,258
- [growling]
- Also, Danny Boyle
631
00:23:57,305 --> 00:23:58,825
was commenting on, uh,
632
00:23:58,872 --> 00:24:01,182
the rage that he saw
in society.
633
00:24:01,222 --> 00:24:03,352
Road rage,
people fighting on line
634
00:24:03,398 --> 00:24:04,698
in the supermarkets...
635
00:24:04,747 --> 00:24:06,617
- [grunts]
636
00:24:06,662 --> 00:24:09,582
- He envisioned a zombie story
that took advantage
637
00:24:09,622 --> 00:24:12,362
of this psychological virus
638
00:24:12,407 --> 00:24:14,627
that could be unleashed
and have, like,
639
00:24:14,670 --> 00:24:16,800
a zombie effect on people.
640
00:24:16,846 --> 00:24:19,196
[tense music]
641
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:20,980
- There was one big difference
642
00:24:21,024 --> 00:24:23,374
between George Romero's'
zombies and the infected
643
00:24:23,418 --> 00:24:25,588
in "28 Days Later":
644
00:24:25,638 --> 00:24:27,338
these zombies were fast.
645
00:24:27,378 --> 00:24:30,638
People talked about sort of
the next quantum leap
646
00:24:30,686 --> 00:24:32,856
in zombie movies...
647
00:24:33,863 --> 00:24:36,693
As "28 Days Later"
'cause it had running zombies.
648
00:24:36,736 --> 00:24:38,516
Even though there were
running infected
649
00:24:38,564 --> 00:24:40,614
in Umberto Lenzi's
"Nightmare City" from 1980.
650
00:24:40,653 --> 00:24:41,963
- [laughing]
651
00:24:42,002 --> 00:24:44,922
[indistinct shouting]
652
00:24:45,788 --> 00:24:47,878
- I'm a slow zombie guy.
653
00:24:47,921 --> 00:24:49,661
- [shouting]
- Not that I don't like
654
00:24:49,705 --> 00:24:51,705
a good fast zombie movie.
- Somebody!
655
00:24:51,751 --> 00:24:53,541
- Uh, I loved "28 Days Later."
656
00:24:53,579 --> 00:24:55,059
Yes, I know.
657
00:24:55,102 --> 00:24:57,542
They're not technically dead.
658
00:24:57,583 --> 00:24:59,243
They are rage virus.
659
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,110
I get that.
- [hissing]
660
00:25:01,151 --> 00:25:02,981
[zombies growling]
661
00:25:03,023 --> 00:25:05,373
- If I can make a criticism
of running zombies, it's this:
662
00:25:05,416 --> 00:25:07,026
It's that running zombies
generally--
663
00:25:07,070 --> 00:25:08,680
there's kind of like
a fitness level.
664
00:25:08,724 --> 00:25:10,734
If you look at the zombies
in "28 Days Later,"
665
00:25:10,770 --> 00:25:13,290
they're nearly always, like,
sort of fit.
666
00:25:13,337 --> 00:25:16,167
You know, like they're in
like a sneakers commercial.
667
00:25:16,210 --> 00:25:19,000
[laughing]
[zombies shouting]
668
00:25:19,039 --> 00:25:21,609
When you increase the speed,
the people that lose out
669
00:25:21,650 --> 00:25:24,130
are the old zombies,
and the overweight zombies,
670
00:25:24,174 --> 00:25:26,444
and the little kid zombies,
and I would rather have
671
00:25:26,481 --> 00:25:28,531
a more inclusive range
of zombies.
672
00:25:28,570 --> 00:25:30,700
[eerie music]
673
00:25:30,746 --> 00:25:33,836
- Zombies that are slow are
infinitely more terrifying.
674
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,230
It's the difference between
getting shot
675
00:25:35,272 --> 00:25:37,842
and getting cancer.
[crowd shouting]
676
00:25:37,884 --> 00:25:40,934
You get killed by, say,
a fast zombie
677
00:25:40,974 --> 00:25:44,374
in the "World War Z" movie
or "28 Days Later,"
678
00:25:44,412 --> 00:25:46,072
you're dead
before you know it.
679
00:25:46,109 --> 00:25:47,979
[zombies growling]
Happens too fast.
680
00:25:48,024 --> 00:25:49,854
♪
681
00:25:49,896 --> 00:25:51,676
But the slow zombie...
682
00:25:51,724 --> 00:25:53,994
the zombie that gives you
time to think...
683
00:25:54,030 --> 00:25:57,380
allows you to visualize
your own death...
684
00:25:57,425 --> 00:26:00,035
[zombies growling]
685
00:26:01,429 --> 00:26:03,339
And that is one
of the darker elements
686
00:26:03,387 --> 00:26:05,347
of the human mind.
687
00:26:05,389 --> 00:26:06,909
- Fast or slow...
- [growling]
688
00:26:06,956 --> 00:26:08,776
- Zombies are usually created
689
00:26:08,828 --> 00:26:11,738
by accidental radiation leaks
or rogue viruses.
690
00:26:11,787 --> 00:26:13,827
- [growling, babbling]
691
00:26:13,876 --> 00:26:15,696
- But there is another kind
of zombie:
692
00:26:15,748 --> 00:26:18,228
The deliberately
reanimated corpse,
693
00:26:18,272 --> 00:26:19,932
like Frankenstein's monster.
694
00:26:19,969 --> 00:26:22,059
- Alive!
- Created by Mary Shelley
695
00:26:22,102 --> 00:26:25,062
in 1818,
Frankenstein's monster
696
00:26:25,105 --> 00:26:27,845
is the most famous member
of the walking dead.
697
00:26:27,890 --> 00:26:29,630
- Frankenstein's monster
698
00:26:29,675 --> 00:26:31,625
is a zombie for sure.
699
00:26:31,677 --> 00:26:33,327
In the novel, he's just a--
700
00:26:33,374 --> 00:26:36,944
a zombie that can talk
way too much.
701
00:26:36,986 --> 00:26:38,636
- As a kid,
I really felt connected
702
00:26:38,684 --> 00:26:40,294
to Frankenstein's monster,
not so much
703
00:26:40,337 --> 00:26:41,637
to Frankenstein himself.
704
00:26:41,687 --> 00:26:43,427
I think that goes for a lot
705
00:26:43,471 --> 00:26:45,391
of those
original horror classics.
706
00:26:45,429 --> 00:26:47,519
Those characters
are sort of stand-ins
707
00:26:47,562 --> 00:26:50,172
for people that are
on the fringe of society
708
00:26:50,217 --> 00:26:51,907
or castaways--cast outs.
709
00:26:51,958 --> 00:26:54,438
[crowd shouting]
710
00:26:54,482 --> 00:26:56,442
- Boris Karloff's
Frankenstein
711
00:26:56,484 --> 00:26:58,274
is still
the definitive version
712
00:26:58,312 --> 00:26:59,842
of this monster.
713
00:26:59,879 --> 00:27:01,579
Its direct descendant
714
00:27:01,620 --> 00:27:04,360
is "H.P. Lovecraft's
Re-Animator."
715
00:27:04,405 --> 00:27:06,275
With "Re-Animator,"
716
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,240
director Stuart Gordon
reimagined the zombie film
717
00:27:09,279 --> 00:27:11,979
as a wildly transgressive
horror comedy.
718
00:27:12,021 --> 00:27:13,591
[dark music]
719
00:27:13,632 --> 00:27:16,032
I remember I went to a--
like a--a bunch of kids
720
00:27:16,069 --> 00:27:18,069
were hanging out at a house
like have--having a party
721
00:27:18,114 --> 00:27:19,774
and they watched
"Breakfast Club,"
722
00:27:19,812 --> 00:27:22,472
and I was never--I had never
been so bored in a movie.
723
00:27:22,510 --> 00:27:24,640
I was just, like, waiting
for something to happen.
724
00:27:24,686 --> 00:27:26,296
- Somebody gets the hot potato.
- Something.
725
00:27:26,340 --> 00:27:27,820
And I was like, "I have
a much better movie."
726
00:27:27,863 --> 00:27:29,133
And I put on "Re-Animator..."
- [laughing]
727
00:27:29,169 --> 00:27:30,429
- And the whole party
cleared out.
728
00:27:30,474 --> 00:27:32,434
- [wailing]
- [screaming]
729
00:27:32,476 --> 00:27:35,086
[both screaming]
730
00:27:35,131 --> 00:27:37,351
- Well, the film
is about medical students
731
00:27:37,394 --> 00:27:39,404
who find a way to bring
the dead back to life.
732
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,220
Particularly,
there's this one genius,
733
00:27:41,268 --> 00:27:44,448
Herbert West--
he's developed a serum which,
734
00:27:44,488 --> 00:27:47,618
when it's injected
into a dead body, revives it.
735
00:27:47,666 --> 00:27:50,356
- [screaming]
736
00:27:50,407 --> 00:27:53,147
- But the dead
are never very grateful.
737
00:27:53,193 --> 00:27:55,463
- [growling]
- [choking]
738
00:27:55,499 --> 00:27:58,719
- What was great about
Stuart Gordon's take on it--
739
00:27:58,764 --> 00:28:00,724
he put a really interesting
sense of humor
740
00:28:00,766 --> 00:28:02,286
in the whole thing.
741
00:28:03,899 --> 00:28:06,159
- [growls]
- 'Cause you can look
742
00:28:06,206 --> 00:28:07,766
at "Re-Animator" as a comedy.
- You'll never get credit
743
00:28:07,816 --> 00:28:09,246
for my discovery.
744
00:28:09,296 --> 00:28:10,726
Who's going to believe
a talking head?
745
00:28:10,776 --> 00:28:12,466
Get a job in a sideshow.
746
00:28:12,516 --> 00:28:14,646
- "Re-Animator"
was like nothing
747
00:28:14,693 --> 00:28:17,523
I had seen before--
like nothing anyone
748
00:28:17,565 --> 00:28:20,995
had seen before--
and the audacity of it
749
00:28:21,047 --> 00:28:23,087
is what makes it
so powerful.
750
00:28:23,136 --> 00:28:26,096
[dark music]
751
00:28:26,139 --> 00:28:29,269
♪
752
00:28:29,316 --> 00:28:30,926
- Boy, that's a sick picture.
753
00:28:30,970 --> 00:28:33,020
Really transgressive.
754
00:28:33,059 --> 00:28:35,799
Got a lot of crawling hands
and heads rolling around
755
00:28:35,844 --> 00:28:38,764
like bowling balls.
- [growling]
756
00:28:38,804 --> 00:28:40,814
- You should not be
censoring yourself.
757
00:28:40,849 --> 00:28:42,629
[drill whirring]
758
00:28:42,677 --> 00:28:43,807
You know, they'll be doing
everything they can
759
00:28:43,852 --> 00:28:44,982
to censor you.
760
00:28:45,027 --> 00:28:46,637
You should not give them
an inch.
761
00:28:46,681 --> 00:28:48,341
[drill whirring]
762
00:28:48,378 --> 00:28:50,248
♪
763
00:28:50,293 --> 00:28:52,303
- "Re-Animator's" fun.
I don't know what it's about,
764
00:28:52,339 --> 00:28:54,039
like, that--I don't know
that it's about
765
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,390
any big ideas whatsoever,
766
00:28:56,430 --> 00:28:58,480
except that it would be fun
to keep heads alive
767
00:28:58,519 --> 00:29:00,999
in a basket.
- It's about conquering death.
768
00:29:01,043 --> 00:29:03,313
That's really what it's about.
- [snarling]
769
00:29:03,350 --> 00:29:04,740
- [screaming]
770
00:29:04,786 --> 00:29:07,176
[grunts]
- My father passed away
771
00:29:07,223 --> 00:29:09,443
when I was 14 years old,
772
00:29:09,486 --> 00:29:12,786
and I think that
that was the hook for me.
773
00:29:12,838 --> 00:29:14,538
People always say,
"If you could
774
00:29:14,578 --> 00:29:16,798
bring anybody back's life,
who would it be?"
775
00:29:16,842 --> 00:29:19,582
In my case, it's a--
it's a no-brainer:
776
00:29:19,627 --> 00:29:22,107
It would be my father.
777
00:29:22,151 --> 00:29:23,761
- [screams]
- [wails]
778
00:29:23,805 --> 00:29:26,025
- When you look at
most horror movies, I think,
779
00:29:26,068 --> 00:29:28,548
they're about
an impossible dream.
780
00:29:28,592 --> 00:29:30,942
- In 1985, "Re-Animator"
781
00:29:30,986 --> 00:29:33,376
and Dan O'Bannon's
"Return of the Living Dead"
782
00:29:33,423 --> 00:29:36,083
explored the comic frontiers
of the zombie genre.
783
00:29:36,122 --> 00:29:37,082
♪
784
00:29:37,123 --> 00:29:39,043
- Brains!
785
00:29:39,081 --> 00:29:41,781
- That same year,
the king of the zombies--
786
00:29:41,823 --> 00:29:45,263
George Romero--was crafting
a much darker film,
787
00:29:45,305 --> 00:29:47,345
what he hoped would be
the zombie film
788
00:29:47,394 --> 00:29:50,614
to end all zombie films:
"Day of the Dead."
789
00:29:50,658 --> 00:29:52,658
- "Day of the Dead"
was intended
790
00:29:52,703 --> 00:29:55,663
to be George Romero's
$10 million opus.
791
00:29:55,706 --> 00:29:57,616
[dramatic music]
792
00:30:00,668 --> 00:30:01,708
- No...
- George Romero's
793
00:30:01,756 --> 00:30:03,406
first two zombie films
794
00:30:03,453 --> 00:30:04,853
invented a new kind
of monster...
795
00:30:04,890 --> 00:30:06,590
- [shrieking]
- And a new metaphor
796
00:30:06,630 --> 00:30:07,720
for life in America.
797
00:30:07,762 --> 00:30:10,332
- One, two, three, go.
798
00:30:10,373 --> 00:30:12,253
[gunshots]
799
00:30:12,288 --> 00:30:14,158
- By 1985, he was making
800
00:30:14,203 --> 00:30:16,823
what he hoped would be
his ultimate statement,
801
00:30:16,858 --> 00:30:18,948
a zombie film that combined
802
00:30:18,991 --> 00:30:21,041
incredibly realistic
special effects
803
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,300
with a powerful message.
804
00:30:22,342 --> 00:30:23,522
- [screaming]
- [wailing]
805
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,260
[zombies growling]
806
00:30:25,301 --> 00:30:27,871
- The message
of the Reagan era was...
807
00:30:27,913 --> 00:30:31,183
no more war on poverty,
no more war on crime,
808
00:30:31,220 --> 00:30:34,480
no more war
on racial segregation.
809
00:30:34,528 --> 00:30:35,788
Uh, screw it.
810
00:30:35,834 --> 00:30:38,014
[zombies shouting]
811
00:30:38,053 --> 00:30:39,453
We've lost.
There's more of them
812
00:30:39,489 --> 00:30:41,229
than there are of us,
so you need to retreat
813
00:30:41,274 --> 00:30:44,584
into your protective enclaves
and husband your resources.
814
00:30:44,625 --> 00:30:46,315
And that's exactly
what our characters do.
815
00:30:46,366 --> 00:30:50,066
- You must listen!
- Listen to this.
816
00:30:54,809 --> 00:30:56,769
[dramatic music]
817
00:30:56,811 --> 00:30:58,861
- In "Day of the Dead," we see
the military rule,
818
00:30:58,900 --> 00:31:01,120
and that's even scarier.
- I'm running
819
00:31:01,163 --> 00:31:03,253
this monkey farm now,
Frankenstein,
820
00:31:03,296 --> 00:31:05,816
and I want to know
what the [bleep]
821
00:31:05,864 --> 00:31:08,134
you're doing with my time!
822
00:31:08,170 --> 00:31:10,040
- A bunch of people
who are trying to do good
823
00:31:10,085 --> 00:31:11,695
and find a cure
are being ruled
824
00:31:11,739 --> 00:31:14,919
by this military presence
that is very aggressive
825
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,270
and will do anything it takes
to preserve itself,
826
00:31:18,311 --> 00:31:20,011
so that's terrifying as well.
827
00:31:20,052 --> 00:31:21,662
[electrical zapping]
828
00:31:21,705 --> 00:31:23,315
- The zombies are
in some ways, you know--
829
00:31:23,359 --> 00:31:25,409
the ones who are being
experimented upon--
830
00:31:25,448 --> 00:31:27,928
kind of more sympathetic
than many of the humans.
831
00:31:27,973 --> 00:31:29,283
[zombies groaning]
832
00:31:29,322 --> 00:31:31,632
- Rhodes!
833
00:31:31,672 --> 00:31:34,412
- In "Dawn of the Dead,"
we're losing.
834
00:31:34,457 --> 00:31:36,197
In "Day of the Dead,"
we've lost.
835
00:31:36,242 --> 00:31:38,982
- Most good directors
that really have a grasp
836
00:31:39,027 --> 00:31:40,717
on the medium
can do horror.
837
00:31:40,768 --> 00:31:42,858
It's not as delicate as humor.
- Mm.
838
00:31:42,901 --> 00:31:44,211
- It's not as delicate.
839
00:31:44,250 --> 00:31:45,380
Uh, there are some tricks
of the trade
840
00:31:45,425 --> 00:31:47,165
that you can apply.
841
00:31:47,209 --> 00:31:49,079
- Like his other zombie films,
842
00:31:49,124 --> 00:31:52,004
"Day of the Dead" was shot
in Romero's hometown
843
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,300
of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania,
844
00:31:54,347 --> 00:31:56,647
far outside
of the Hollywood system.
845
00:31:56,697 --> 00:31:59,127
- But that's what made...
846
00:31:59,178 --> 00:32:01,218
George Romero...
847
00:32:01,267 --> 00:32:02,957
such a terrific filmmaker,
848
00:32:03,008 --> 00:32:06,358
was that he was a legit,
regional filmmaker,
849
00:32:06,402 --> 00:32:08,972
and what made it special
850
00:32:09,014 --> 00:32:11,584
was the slightly
homemade quality
851
00:32:11,625 --> 00:32:13,365
to the movies.
852
00:32:13,409 --> 00:32:16,459
- Everywhere that he would go
in Pittsburgh,
853
00:32:16,499 --> 00:32:18,329
you knew somebody
that was a zombie.
854
00:32:18,371 --> 00:32:20,291
You knew somebody
that was involved
855
00:32:20,329 --> 00:32:22,069
with George Romero's movies,
856
00:32:22,114 --> 00:32:23,854
and that's how I got
into the business.
857
00:32:23,898 --> 00:32:26,378
Because when "Day of the Dead"
came along,
858
00:32:26,422 --> 00:32:28,862
I had befriended George
859
00:32:28,903 --> 00:32:30,823
because of some mutual
family friends, and he's like,
860
00:32:30,861 --> 00:32:32,121
"Hey, I'm doing a sequel
to 'Dawn of the Dead.'
861
00:32:32,167 --> 00:32:33,857
Do you want a job?"
I'm like...
862
00:32:33,908 --> 00:32:35,998
"I was gonna be a doctor,
but this sounds way better."
863
00:32:36,041 --> 00:32:39,131
[suspenseful music]
864
00:32:39,174 --> 00:32:41,574
- And this is where
George Romero
865
00:32:41,611 --> 00:32:44,441
and Tom Savini--
arguably their creative peaks
866
00:32:44,484 --> 00:32:47,494
at the same time,
working together.
867
00:32:47,530 --> 00:32:49,530
- Special effects artists
like Rick Baker
868
00:32:49,576 --> 00:32:52,266
and Tom Savini were heralded
869
00:32:52,318 --> 00:32:54,488
as, like, kings and icons
of the horror film
870
00:32:54,537 --> 00:32:56,017
because they were creating
special effects
871
00:32:56,061 --> 00:32:57,541
that were out of this world.
872
00:32:57,584 --> 00:32:59,894
Like something
we'd never seen before.
873
00:32:59,934 --> 00:33:02,244
- Vietnam was a lesson
in anatomy for me.
874
00:33:02,284 --> 00:33:04,204
I was a combat photographer.
875
00:33:04,243 --> 00:33:05,943
I saw horrible stuff.
876
00:33:05,984 --> 00:33:07,594
In fact, I'm the only
make-up artist, I think,
877
00:33:07,637 --> 00:33:09,807
that has seen the real stuff.
- [screaming]
878
00:33:09,857 --> 00:33:11,467
- [shrieking]
- In a movie,
879
00:33:11,511 --> 00:33:14,691
when someone dies
they close their mouth
880
00:33:14,731 --> 00:33:16,081
and they wanna look pretty
for the camera...
881
00:33:16,124 --> 00:33:17,654
[funereal music]
882
00:33:17,691 --> 00:33:19,741
And that just takes me
right out of it,
883
00:33:19,780 --> 00:33:21,830
because that actor doesn't
know how to portray death,
884
00:33:21,869 --> 00:33:24,389
or the director doesn't know
to tell them...
885
00:33:24,437 --> 00:33:26,737
the mouth always goes slack.
886
00:33:26,787 --> 00:33:28,917
[dark music]
887
00:33:28,963 --> 00:33:31,053
My masterpiece
is "Day of the Dead."
888
00:33:31,096 --> 00:33:33,706
♪
889
00:33:33,750 --> 00:33:35,800
- [moaning]
890
00:33:35,839 --> 00:33:38,229
- There a lot of cool stuff
in, uh--in "Day of the Dead."
891
00:33:38,277 --> 00:33:39,577
♪
892
00:33:39,626 --> 00:33:41,146
We cut the guy's arm off,
you know.
893
00:33:41,193 --> 00:33:42,983
I dug a hole under the guy
894
00:33:43,021 --> 00:33:44,851
so his real arm goes
into the hole.
895
00:33:44,892 --> 00:33:47,032
♪
896
00:33:47,068 --> 00:33:48,808
And tearing Taso's head off...
897
00:33:48,852 --> 00:33:50,422
- [screaming]
898
00:33:50,463 --> 00:33:53,213
- And it's actually
Greg Nicotero's fingers
899
00:33:53,248 --> 00:33:55,208
in the eyeballs
of the fake head,
900
00:33:55,250 --> 00:33:56,640
and we're running cables down
901
00:33:56,686 --> 00:33:58,116
to make the head work,
you know,
902
00:33:58,166 --> 00:33:59,906
so it was effects guys
903
00:33:59,950 --> 00:34:02,340
that were the featured zombies
tearing the head off.
904
00:34:02,388 --> 00:34:03,868
- My head comes back
905
00:34:03,911 --> 00:34:06,041
as a zombie head
in "Day of the Dead."
906
00:34:06,087 --> 00:34:08,437
You gotta think about the way
that Tom designed things,
907
00:34:08,481 --> 00:34:09,701
because he approached
everything
908
00:34:09,743 --> 00:34:11,273
like it was a magic trick.
909
00:34:11,310 --> 00:34:13,050
You know, the idea
that you're--you're taking
910
00:34:13,094 --> 00:34:16,104
a special effect
and you're deconstructing it
911
00:34:16,141 --> 00:34:19,101
to the point where it's gotta
be a magic trick that's gonna
912
00:34:19,144 --> 00:34:21,104
fool the audience.
- The disembowelments
913
00:34:21,146 --> 00:34:22,626
in "Day of the Dead"
are unmatched.
914
00:34:22,669 --> 00:34:24,759
[zombies groaning]
- [gasping]
915
00:34:24,801 --> 00:34:26,891
- Without a doubt,
and that's why you get into--
916
00:34:26,934 --> 00:34:29,944
people who--who watch movies
and get--get offended
917
00:34:29,980 --> 00:34:31,680
by the--the gore,
and you're like,
918
00:34:31,721 --> 00:34:33,941
"Well, you know
it's corn syrup..."
919
00:34:33,984 --> 00:34:35,464
- It's a real presentation.
- Red powered--
920
00:34:35,508 --> 00:34:36,938
red powdered food coloring.
921
00:34:36,987 --> 00:34:38,687
- Miller!
922
00:34:38,728 --> 00:34:40,598
Miller!
- [screaming]
923
00:34:40,643 --> 00:34:44,043
- The special makeup effects
pioneered by Tom Savini
924
00:34:44,082 --> 00:34:46,042
and Greg Nicotero
on "Day of the Dead"...
925
00:34:46,084 --> 00:34:47,654
- [growling]
- Led directly
926
00:34:47,694 --> 00:34:49,524
to the amazing work
we see today
927
00:34:49,565 --> 00:34:51,995
on "The Walking Dead."
928
00:34:52,046 --> 00:34:54,566
- The kind of household
I grew up in was, you know,
929
00:34:54,614 --> 00:34:56,184
"Oh, you can't go see
'Day of the Dead.'
930
00:34:56,224 --> 00:34:57,754
That's too--that's too much."
931
00:34:57,791 --> 00:35:00,101
But now you see, uh,
932
00:35:00,141 --> 00:35:03,231
the level of gore that we saw
in George Romero's, uh,
933
00:35:03,275 --> 00:35:06,055
"Day of the Dead"
on "Walking Dead" every week,
934
00:35:06,104 --> 00:35:07,584
which is insane to me.
935
00:35:07,627 --> 00:35:09,107
[sinister music]
936
00:35:11,935 --> 00:35:13,415
[engine revving]
937
00:35:13,459 --> 00:35:15,329
[tense music]
938
00:35:15,374 --> 00:35:17,594
[zombies growling]
939
00:35:17,637 --> 00:35:19,327
♪
940
00:35:19,378 --> 00:35:21,158
- Go to the left!
941
00:35:21,206 --> 00:35:22,726
♪
942
00:35:22,772 --> 00:35:24,772
- In the wake
of a zombie apocalypse,
943
00:35:24,818 --> 00:35:26,558
a small band of survivors
944
00:35:26,602 --> 00:35:29,172
look for a safe place to live.
945
00:35:29,214 --> 00:35:31,874
The biggest threat they face
aren't zombies,
946
00:35:31,912 --> 00:35:34,092
but other people.
947
00:35:34,132 --> 00:35:36,962
This is the premise
of "The Walking Dead,"
948
00:35:37,004 --> 00:35:39,924
the TV series that brought
realistic horror
949
00:35:39,963 --> 00:35:42,103
to the small screen.
950
00:35:42,140 --> 00:35:43,790
[door creaking]
951
00:35:43,837 --> 00:35:46,407
- [snarling]
952
00:35:46,448 --> 00:35:48,278
- People used to come to me
and say, "Can you make us
953
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,060
a violent TV series?"
954
00:35:50,104 --> 00:35:51,804
And I'd say, "Well,
what makes horror work is you--
955
00:35:51,845 --> 00:35:53,535
"is you have the threat
of killing your characters,
956
00:35:53,586 --> 00:35:56,146
"and what TV--what makes TV
work is you want to see
957
00:35:56,197 --> 00:35:57,847
those characters every week..."
- Right.
958
00:35:57,894 --> 00:35:59,464
- So you can't have them
almost die, and I could never
959
00:35:59,505 --> 00:36:00,675
do the violence I wanted to do.
- Yeah, yeah.
960
00:36:00,723 --> 00:36:02,203
- Cut to...
- Here we are.
961
00:36:02,247 --> 00:36:03,987
- Greg Nicotero
and "The Walking Dead."
962
00:36:04,031 --> 00:36:06,991
[dramatic music]
963
00:36:07,034 --> 00:36:08,124
♪
964
00:36:08,166 --> 00:36:09,946
- "The Walking Dead" for sure
965
00:36:09,993 --> 00:36:13,133
is the next
cultural milestone
966
00:36:13,171 --> 00:36:15,261
really since "Dawn of the Dead"
and "Night of the Living Dead."
967
00:36:15,303 --> 00:36:17,223
And, you know,
that's really been you.
968
00:36:17,262 --> 00:36:18,922
[hooves clattering]
969
00:36:18,959 --> 00:36:21,879
- "Walking Dead"
is basically a Western with--
970
00:36:21,918 --> 00:36:23,878
with the zombie, uh,
apocalypse
971
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,490
set as the backdrop.
972
00:36:25,531 --> 00:36:28,061
If "The Walking Dead"
had to be told
973
00:36:28,098 --> 00:36:30,708
in a 2 1/2 hour time slot,
you'd never be able to do it.
974
00:36:30,753 --> 00:36:32,233
You wouldn't care
about the characters.
975
00:36:32,277 --> 00:36:33,707
You wouldn't really know
who Daryl is...
976
00:36:33,756 --> 00:36:35,236
- Yeah.
- Who--who Rick is.
977
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,240
- I'm sorry
this happened to you.
978
00:36:37,282 --> 00:36:39,112
- [growling]
979
00:36:39,153 --> 00:36:41,903
- The plight of the survivors
is a dark reflection
980
00:36:41,938 --> 00:36:44,328
of life in America today.
981
00:36:44,376 --> 00:36:47,636
The mortgage crisis of 2008
resulted in more than
982
00:36:47,683 --> 00:36:49,693
3 million people
losing their homes.
983
00:36:49,729 --> 00:36:51,729
- Problems with
the housing market...
984
00:36:51,774 --> 00:36:54,434
- Since then,
rising housing prices
985
00:36:54,473 --> 00:36:56,523
in the major cities
have forced more people
986
00:36:56,562 --> 00:36:59,132
to live on the street.
- Global meltdown.
987
00:36:59,173 --> 00:37:01,523
- There's a sense
that civilization is fragile.
988
00:37:01,567 --> 00:37:03,217
That any day now,
989
00:37:03,264 --> 00:37:06,314
we could be like Rick,
Daryl, and Carol,
990
00:37:06,354 --> 00:37:07,924
always moving,
991
00:37:07,964 --> 00:37:10,364
surrounded by threats
on every side.
992
00:37:10,402 --> 00:37:13,272
[zombies snarling]
993
00:37:13,318 --> 00:37:14,968
- That's what I always loved--
when "Walking Dead" came out,
994
00:37:15,015 --> 00:37:16,925
I would say to people, like,
"If the zombie apocalypse
995
00:37:16,973 --> 00:37:18,713
"were real,
this is the closest thing
996
00:37:18,758 --> 00:37:21,718
"that I've seen to what
that would probably feel like
997
00:37:21,761 --> 00:37:23,331
and be like."
998
00:37:23,371 --> 00:37:26,111
- When I first read
that script, I didn't--
999
00:37:26,156 --> 00:37:28,246
you know, I didn't read it
as a zombie thing.
1000
00:37:28,289 --> 00:37:30,069
I read it as this guy
lost his family,
1001
00:37:30,117 --> 00:37:31,677
and he woke up, and he didn't
know where he was.
1002
00:37:31,727 --> 00:37:33,467
And he was gonna do anything
1003
00:37:33,512 --> 00:37:35,172
to go find his family,
and that's--
1004
00:37:35,209 --> 00:37:37,469
that stuck out on the page
way more than a zombie
1005
00:37:37,516 --> 00:37:39,036
here and there, you know?
1006
00:37:39,082 --> 00:37:40,522
And everybody
played it like that.
1007
00:37:40,562 --> 00:37:42,262
[somber music]
1008
00:37:42,303 --> 00:37:44,313
You have to play everything
as real as possible.
1009
00:37:44,349 --> 00:37:46,259
- [snarling]
- [indistinct]
1010
00:37:46,307 --> 00:37:47,867
- There's so many examples
on that show where, like--
1011
00:37:47,917 --> 00:37:49,137
You're like, "Oh, my God,
is this gonna work?"
1012
00:37:49,179 --> 00:37:50,659
And the actors...
- No, no, no!
1013
00:37:50,703 --> 00:37:52,713
- Just pulled it out
and made it perfect.
1014
00:37:52,748 --> 00:37:55,058
- [screaming]
No!
1015
00:37:55,098 --> 00:37:57,708
- [grunts]
- She was playing with me!
1016
00:37:57,753 --> 00:38:00,323
She wanted a friend!
- She wanted to kill you!
1017
00:38:00,365 --> 00:38:02,495
- I was gonna lead her away!
1018
00:38:02,541 --> 00:38:04,281
- You could have died.
- It's the same thing!
1019
00:38:04,325 --> 00:38:06,755
You killed her!
You killed her!
1020
00:38:06,806 --> 00:38:08,066
- There's a reason
there wasn't really
1021
00:38:08,111 --> 00:38:10,681
a zombie TV show before.
1022
00:38:10,723 --> 00:38:12,333
[dark music]
1023
00:38:12,377 --> 00:38:13,937
- Ugh...
- Effects need
1024
00:38:13,987 --> 00:38:15,677
to be really good
on a television show
1025
00:38:15,728 --> 00:38:18,338
so that people don't fall out
of the reality
1026
00:38:18,383 --> 00:38:20,693
that you're trying to sell.
1027
00:38:20,733 --> 00:38:23,003
- The best zombies, I think,
are what Greg is doing
1028
00:38:23,039 --> 00:38:24,999
in "The Walking Dead."
The best zombies today.
1029
00:38:25,041 --> 00:38:26,871
Uh, and there's a lot
of CGI there, you know,
1030
00:38:26,913 --> 00:38:29,963
and necessary,
because the zombies
1031
00:38:30,003 --> 00:38:31,793
have been around for so long,
1032
00:38:31,831 --> 00:38:35,101
now they're decaying
and rotting, you know?
1033
00:38:35,138 --> 00:38:36,968
- [gagging]
- Just a little more.
1034
00:38:37,010 --> 00:38:38,930
- [gurgling]
- There's that one famous--
1035
00:38:38,968 --> 00:38:41,008
the "well walker..."
- Stop!
1036
00:38:41,057 --> 00:38:42,537
- Come on!
- Where he's just
1037
00:38:42,581 --> 00:38:44,231
so waterlogged and bloated
1038
00:38:44,278 --> 00:38:46,368
that he just sort of, like,
comes apart.
1039
00:38:46,411 --> 00:38:48,371
[all grunting]
- [gurgling]
1040
00:38:48,413 --> 00:38:53,943
♪
1041
00:38:53,983 --> 00:38:55,683
- That's one
of the beautiful things
1042
00:38:55,724 --> 00:38:58,904
that Greg does, is his team--
1043
00:38:58,945 --> 00:39:01,205
you can see the lost person
1044
00:39:01,251 --> 00:39:02,861
behind the monster, you know?
1045
00:39:02,905 --> 00:39:04,775
That's--that's when
they become scary.
1046
00:39:04,820 --> 00:39:07,610
- I never get sick of it,
honestly.
1047
00:39:07,649 --> 00:39:09,219
They keep--they keep
reinventing the wheel
1048
00:39:09,259 --> 00:39:11,439
with the zombies, it's nuts.
- [growling]
1049
00:39:11,479 --> 00:39:13,869
♪
1050
00:39:13,916 --> 00:39:16,876
- Obviously the--the irony is,
who are the walking dead?
1051
00:39:16,919 --> 00:39:19,009
Is it the actual zombies
or is the people?
1052
00:39:19,052 --> 00:39:20,582
- Right, right.
- Uh, what are they willing
1053
00:39:20,619 --> 00:39:22,269
to do to each other to survive?
1054
00:39:22,316 --> 00:39:23,536
And that's...
- Yeah, at what point
1055
00:39:23,578 --> 00:39:25,448
do you lose your humanity?
- Right.
1056
00:39:25,493 --> 00:39:28,023
- "Walking Dead" being on
for so long surprises me,
1057
00:39:28,061 --> 00:39:31,331
'cause y'all should be dead
by now, man.
1058
00:39:31,369 --> 00:39:33,369
- [snarling]
1059
00:39:33,414 --> 00:39:35,294
You know,
because it doesn't make sense.
1060
00:39:35,329 --> 00:39:37,329
To me.
- [snarling]
1061
00:39:37,375 --> 00:39:39,195
- [gasping, whimpering]
1062
00:39:39,246 --> 00:39:41,896
- Doesn't it feel like zombies
are cresting now, too?
1063
00:39:41,944 --> 00:39:44,254
Yeah, right now it does
seem like we're in the middle
1064
00:39:44,294 --> 00:39:46,304
of a zombie apocalypse.
1065
00:39:46,340 --> 00:39:49,000
[procession chanting]
1066
00:39:49,038 --> 00:39:50,428
Yeah.
1067
00:39:50,475 --> 00:39:52,995
The dumbing down of society.
1068
00:39:56,045 --> 00:39:57,955
We're all zombies.
1069
00:39:58,004 --> 00:40:01,094
[zombies snarling]
1070
00:40:01,137 --> 00:40:02,917
- Zombies are representative
1071
00:40:02,965 --> 00:40:04,915
of--of Alzheimer's...
1072
00:40:04,967 --> 00:40:06,487
a just terrifying disease.
1073
00:40:06,534 --> 00:40:10,154
And zombies
are representatives of cancer.
1074
00:40:10,190 --> 00:40:12,060
To me, what's happened
with the zombie
1075
00:40:12,105 --> 00:40:14,365
is now they're representatives
of anarchy
1076
00:40:14,412 --> 00:40:16,462
and the collapse
of government.
1077
00:40:16,501 --> 00:40:18,461
The collapse of order.
1078
00:40:18,503 --> 00:40:20,373
[menacing music]
1079
00:40:20,418 --> 00:40:23,458
- Zombies are really sort of
a wonderful catch-all metaphor
1080
00:40:23,508 --> 00:40:25,418
because they can mean
absolutely anything.
1081
00:40:25,466 --> 00:40:27,116
- [screaming]
- Zombies in 1968
1082
00:40:27,163 --> 00:40:29,303
are the breakdown
of American society.
1083
00:40:29,339 --> 00:40:30,729
[zombies groaning]
1084
00:40:30,776 --> 00:40:33,426
In 2017
with "The Walking Dead..."
1085
00:40:36,564 --> 00:40:39,964
uh, who knows
what it represents.
1086
00:40:40,002 --> 00:40:42,352
[zombies growling]
1087
00:40:45,530 --> 00:40:48,620
- One take-away could be
that everything's hopeless...
1088
00:40:48,663 --> 00:40:50,583
[distant shouting]
1089
00:40:50,622 --> 00:40:52,102
- [exclaims]
1090
00:40:52,145 --> 00:40:54,795
- Another take-away could be
that humans
1091
00:40:54,843 --> 00:40:58,373
will always persevere
even when...
1092
00:40:58,412 --> 00:41:00,282
it seems like there's
no reason to
1093
00:41:00,327 --> 00:41:01,937
or that it's impossible to.
1094
00:41:01,981 --> 00:41:03,461
[gunfire]
1095
00:41:03,504 --> 00:41:05,034
[zombies snarling]
1096
00:41:05,071 --> 00:41:06,551
- Yeah, zombies will never die.
1097
00:41:06,594 --> 00:41:08,124
No pun intended.
[laughing]
1098
00:41:08,161 --> 00:41:10,691
- [babbling]
- [screaming]
1099
00:41:10,729 --> 00:41:13,379
- It's so interesting,
the resurgence of zombies,
1100
00:41:13,427 --> 00:41:15,727
and the fact that they kind of
won't ever go away.
1101
00:41:15,777 --> 00:41:18,127
[zombies snarling]
1102
00:41:18,171 --> 00:41:19,611
We'll always be
telling stories.
1103
00:41:19,651 --> 00:41:21,611
I think we'll--
we're never gonna lose
1104
00:41:21,653 --> 00:41:23,353
our fascination with them.
1105
00:41:23,393 --> 00:41:25,053
- Half a century ago,
1106
00:41:25,091 --> 00:41:27,701
George Romero created
the modern zombie--
1107
00:41:27,746 --> 00:41:30,786
America's great contribution
to monster horror.
1108
00:41:30,836 --> 00:41:32,656
[sinister music]
1109
00:41:32,707 --> 00:41:35,707
Now, zombie movies are
an international phenomenon.
1110
00:41:35,754 --> 00:41:37,364
♪
1111
00:41:37,407 --> 00:41:39,757
The zombie plague
has infected the world.
1112
00:41:39,801 --> 00:41:41,371
- [screams]
- As relentless
1113
00:41:41,411 --> 00:41:43,201
and unstoppable
1114
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,499
as the flesh-eating undead.
1115
00:41:45,546 --> 00:41:52,416
♪
1116
00:41:52,466 --> 00:41:55,296
- We wake them
and we got it all!
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