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- President Carter pledged
the utmost in cooperation
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in the transition that will take place.
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- I will always be grateful.
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I can hardly believe it, but it's sinking
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in now the enormity of
what has taken place,
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peaceful election, eventually
a peaceful transfer of power.
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- I accept tonight the responsibility
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that you have given me
to be the leader of this,
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the greatest country in human history.
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- I have a lot to be thankful for tonight.
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I'm thankful for America and thankful
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that we were able to resolve our electoral
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differences in a peaceful way.
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- This peaceful transfer of
power is one of the hallmarks
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of a true democracy.
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- President Carter, President Bush Sr.
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As well as the current president
have all been very gracious
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and offered to provide
any help that they can
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in this transition process.
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We are now all rooting for success
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in uniting and leading the country.
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The peaceful transition of power
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is one of the hallmarks of our democracy.
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- Good afternoon, everyone.
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I recently confirmed that
on numerous occasions
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the intelligence community incidentally
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collected information
about US citizens involved
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in the Trump transition.
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Details about US persons associated
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with the incoming administration, details
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with little or no apparent
foreign intelligence value
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were widely disseminated in intelligence
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community reporting.
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Third, I have confirmed
that additional names
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of Trump transition team
members were unmasked.
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And fourth and finally, I wanna be clear.
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None of this surveillance
was related to Russia
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or the investigation of Russian activities
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or of the Trump team.
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- The only thing we had
wrong is it was worse
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than we thought.
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Devin was the first 'cause
he got to see information
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first as then chair of the
intelligence committee.
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He sensed there was wrongdoing early on.
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- He was a lone voice
for a very long time.
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We would not be where we
are without Devin Nunez.
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They started it right after,
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in the 1st of December, 2016.
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- It's becoming clear we
have suffered a desecration
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of our democracy not seen since Watergate.
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- It was right after the election
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and I thought, are they really gonna
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go down this road, this Russia issue.
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- This is part of a
concerted Russian influence
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operation
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- Russian interference.
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- They colluded, they
helped, they were in on it.
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- Vladimir Putin was the
person who authorized
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interference in our election.
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- What Russia did was no different
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than what they do all the time.
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It was totally expected.
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Right after the election,
a couple of weeks,
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then I realized like, wow,
they're just really starting
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to foment this.
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And we really almost
thought it was a joke.
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Like those of us on the
Republicans on the committee,
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like really you're not gonna accept
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that you lost this election.
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We're really going to go into this.
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- My hope is that the president-elect
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is going to similarly be
concerned with making sure
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that we don't have
potential foreign influence
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in our election process.
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- And then Obama and Brennan made it real
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by creating what I call Obama's Dossier
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which was this intelligence
community assessment
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which was the fastest
any government agency
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has ever done a report.
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And of course they took just
a few weeks and they said
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oh yeah, the Russians
were trying to help Trump.
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You know, Obama really was
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gonna stick it to the Russians
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and he like kicked some
people out of the country.
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35 Russian
diplomats in the US expelled,
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just 72 hours to leave,
closing two Russian government
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compounds, rec centers
allegedly used for spying
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shut down as of noon Friday.
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- We use the ways and
means committee to hold
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what is a pretty unusual public hearing
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for the intelligence committee.
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James Comey comes in.
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Then he asks me to come
back to the back room
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and tells me that he's going to publicly
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announce they're looking
into the Trump campaign.
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And I was like, wow, does
he have new information?
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Is there something new?
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- I have been authorized by
the Department of Justice
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to confirm that the FBI, as
part of our counter-intelligence
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mission is investigating the
Russian government's efforts
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to interfere in the 2016
presidential election.
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- It blew up into a spectacle.
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It gave the appearance that
this was a real investigation
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with real information,
even though we had yet
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to see what that real information was.
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- I interviewed a number
of extraordinary candidates
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for this job, all with
Sterling credentials.
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But what gave me confidence
that this was the right man
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for the job was in talking to him a sense
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that this is somebody
who knows what's right
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and what's wrong.
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- The FBI's reputation
for integrity is a gift
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given to every new employee
by those who went before.
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No case, no source, no
fear of embarrassment
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is worth jeopardizing
the gift of integrity.
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- Comey has a great history
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of fabricating crimes,
entrapping innocent citizens
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in crimes that otherwise
would not be committed.
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By leading the victim to
believe that a truthful answer
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to a question would be
an admission to a crime.
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Whereas in fact, it would not
be an admission to a crime.
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When the subject then lies
he's bagged his quarry.
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He did that with Martha Stewart.
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He later did the same
thing to Scouter Libby
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through his special counsel
that he appointed after
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Fitz Gerald.
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Later on they did the same
thing with George Papadopoulos.
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He did the same thing with Michael Flynn.
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- Mike is one of nine children,
blue collar background,
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decided to enter the
military and rose to the rank
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as three star general.
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A Lieutenant general in the army,
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a man who put his life on
the line for our country
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on numerous occasions.
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He was well versed in the
secrets of our country.
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- Before he became the director
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of Defense Intelligence,
was made responsible
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for all intelligence
collection in Afghanistan.
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As the theater MI guy.
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What Mike Flynn did was truly stunning.
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He revolutionized the
way we do intelligence
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in theater in the battlefield.
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He understood that when
you're fighting groups
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like Al Qaeda or ISIS, it is the rapidity
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and the quality of immediately
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exploitable intelligence
that matters the most.
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When you go in there on your raid
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with your alpha team or
the stuff you pick up
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right there has got to be exploited now.
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You don't put it in a bag.
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You don't put it on a secure service,
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sending it back to
Langley or to Fort Meade,
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and then sit on it for nine months
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and then see if it's useful.
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- When Donald Trump was elected president
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of the United States,
he flew to Washington DC
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for a meeting with Barack Obama.
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And in that meeting, Barack
Obama told him unequivocally,
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don't let anybody tell you who to hire
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in your administration.
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You must surround yourself
with your own people,
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except General Mike Flynn.
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The president flew back
to New York that night.
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And I remember speaking
to him very directly
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and he said, "What job
are we giving Mike Flynn?"
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I said, any job you want, sir?
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And then the offer was extended for Mike
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to become the national security advisor.
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- The Obama administration was after him
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for defying them on Iran
and on another questions.
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You know they fired him from the DIA
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and famously in their Oval
Office meeting after the election
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Obama said to incoming
President-Elect Trump,
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you know, there's basically two people
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in the world that you can't trust.
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One is Putin and the other is Mike Flynn.
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I mean, give me a break.
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- We talked about reforming
the intelligence community
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because the 17 sprawling agencies,
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you know, they've gotten
a lot of stuff wrong.
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They were in the weapons
of mass destruction
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being the most obvious example.
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- Every intelligence
agency, every bureaucracy
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is worried about being reformed.
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So Flynn had been loud and clear
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that he did not like the intelligence
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that he was getting when
he was in the field.
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He did not get what he called
actionable intelligence.
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So he was gonna cut some
nice cushy jobs at Langley.
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- He was talking about going
after people's budgets,
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seeing who is wasteful,
who is doing the job.
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We we're gonna cut these
institutions down to size
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and see how it works.
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So, they were terrified.
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- And then there are probably reasons
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why the intel bureaucracies
are specifically resistant
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to change because they
really are unaccountable.
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If you're on accountable for a long time,
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you get used to being unaccountable
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and accountability sounds bad.
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Like you don't want to
have to, if you haven't,
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never answered to anybody
you don't have to answer
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to somebody.
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- Especially when some of the things
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you've been doing when exposed
might make you look bad.
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- As you know, when this attack happened,
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the White House initially said it arose
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out of a spontaneous protest
over anti-Muslim video.
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That turned out not to be true.
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And the White House said
they relied entirely
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on CIA talking points.
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The non-response
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to Benghazi was a deliberate decision.
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It wasn't an oversight.
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And it was because there
was an illegal covert
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weapons program being run there.
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The community writ large;
the special forces community,
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the counter-terrorism community,
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the intelligence community was
aware of what was going on.
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Several members, even the
leadership of the Republican party
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were aware what was going on.
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What you have was the
bipartisan corruption.
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And this bipartisan
corruption was something
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that I think Flynn was well aware.
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Where the intelligence
committee was no longer
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necessarily servicing the country,
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it was servicing the Obama regime itself.
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- We haven't put any demands on them.
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We have used this soft power approach.
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Mike Flynn is viewed
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as the consummate disruptor.
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And now he was going to be in a position
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to bring that disruption to the entire
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national security community.
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So he's moved up a level
and his ability to impact
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is now gonna be much more widespread.
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And of course this absolutely terrifies
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the Central Intelligence Agency.
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It terrifies the FBI
because somebody who knows
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where all the secrets are is now gonna be
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in a position to really
harness that knowledge,
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to disrupt things.
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- He's the former director of the DIA.
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He knew where the bodies were buried.
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He knew the corruption.
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He knew the lies.
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He knew the perversion of
the threat environment.
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- He knew what was going
on and he objected.
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He knew about the machinations
by the Obama administration
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and the West generally to
support terrorists in Syria
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in their crazed effort to take out Assad.
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Of course a lot of that was
being organized out of Libya.
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When he
spoke up against the Obama
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administration and
said, look, just because
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you've killed Osama Bin Laden
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doesn't mean that you've stopped
radical Islamic movements
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and General Flynn predicted
the rise of Islamic extremists.
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- I'm done trying to
convince our president
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to actually define this enemy.
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We know what it is.
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It's radical Islamic terrorism.
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They are vicious.
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They're barbaric.
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They are on the march.
- They didn't like Mike Flynn.
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Remember Barack Obama fired Mike Flynn
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because he was a rattle riser.
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Reason
that Flynn had been fired
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is because he was speaking
the truth about ISIS.
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The straw that broke the camel's back
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was what's now been very well known
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as this testimony that Flynn did.
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It was the global threat testimony
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where all of the heads of
the intelligence agencies,
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John Brendan, Jim Comey, all of the people
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that later on would be part of the effort
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to take Michael Flynn down and ultimately
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take Trump down.
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Flynn had been raising the alarm
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about how the Obama administration
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was not taking the
necessary steps to protect
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the American people from
the growing Islamic threat.
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And, Flynn was told before
he went into that testimony
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do not say anything about the
fact that ISIS is resurgent.
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He decided I'm not gonna lie.
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You know, I need to be very, very honest
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with the American people,
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- They are increasingly
adapting to an environment
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that is actually benefiting them.
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And that to me is a
increasingly growing threat.
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After that, Jim
clapper calls Mike Vickers up
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and Clapper tells Vickers,
you need to fire Flynn.
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Clapper had received
this instruction directly
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from Susan Rice at the
request of Barack Obama.
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In any event they tell
him that you're gonna have
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to retire early.
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We need you to leave the
Defense Intelligence Agency.
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- Of all the people who
came into the White House,
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Mike Flynn was the most
dangerous to the swamp.
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He had to be taken out.
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They knew he knew what the
intelligence community was up to.
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And he knew what Obama
had done to undermine
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our national security for eight years.
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He knew why Obama did
what he did with Iran.
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$140 billion released a regime
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that every Friday says destroy America,
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that you're actually facilitating the rise
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of the theocratic Uranian regime that's
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taking our naval personnel hostage.
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- President Obama negotiated the JCPOA,
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the Iran nuclear deal.
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It was fatally flawed on
so many different levels.
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So when you have somebody
like a General Flynn
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serving at the highest levels in the room,
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making recommendations,
weighing in on work product
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and telling the other
97% of a story on a weak
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flawed approach to a particular
conflict that ends up
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leading to increased resentment.
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And I think there are
people inside the West Wing
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right up to president Obama
who became anti-Michael Flynn
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for all the wrong reasons.
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It's a Chicago style politics approach
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that was brought here from Illinois
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into the White House for two terms.
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And they were trying to kick a few people,
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burn a few things down
before they left office.
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- The Obama administration earlier today
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allowed the United Nations
to pass a resolution
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condemning Israeli
settlements in East Jerusalem
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and the West bank has,
"A flagrant violation
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of international law."
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- It was a shift in US foreign policy
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that was contradictory
to the will of Congress.
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It was contradictory to the
will of the American people.
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It made absolutely no sense, whatsoever.
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It was really disgusting to watch it play
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out the way it was.
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It was an effort to kind of burn down
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our relationship before checking out.
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He expelled 35
diplomats in the United States.
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It was a silly act,
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unnecessarily provocative
and it was grandstanding
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to no purpose.
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- For those who aren't familiar with it
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a federal government provides resources
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for the last two candidates
to establish transition teams
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to help their prospective
presidential nominee
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take over government should they win.
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- There's nothing wrong or unusual
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about an incoming transition team
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talking to folks in other
countries about foreign policy.
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Obama did it as he should do it.
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Flynn did what he should do
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and he diffused what
really was a hot mess.
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Flynn's
calls were intercepted
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by the US intelligence community.
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Secret transcripts show Flynn
did discuss the sanctions
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a potential violation of federal law
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prohibiting private citizens
from engaging in diplomacy.
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- From the very beginning,
this conversation
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that General Flynn had
with the Russian ambassador
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was about a UN resolution
that was coming up.
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And if you read the
transcript General Flynn
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had a perfect phone call.
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He was advocating for the United States.
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It's exactly what you'd
want someone to say.
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Let's deescalate this.
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Let's not try to make it
worse than what it is.
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- So you would want the incoming
national security director
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to be talking to his
counterparts in important,
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he didn't have to talk
to, you know, whoever
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that NSA equivalent is
in certain countries
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but the Russians, the
Chinese, the Germans have
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the, our allies and important
players in geopolitical sense,
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he needs to be talking to them.
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He's doing his job.
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And of course, you know,
the intelligence agencies
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are listening to Kislyak's conversation
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that's kind of what they do.
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- I believe that if anyone
inside of the United States
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government would be fully
aware of US intelligence,
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collection capabilities, tactics
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procedures, it would be
somebody like a Michael Flynn.
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- Flynn has been in the intelligence world
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therefore, he knew that
every single phone call
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on an open civilian phone is intercepted.
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Therefore nobody could
suspect that he was somehow
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plotting because he wouldn't
use the phone, would you?
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But he didn't realize
how determined they were.
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They pretended not to know what
everybody in the field knows
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that when you telephone
the Russian ambassador
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you're not meeting him in a park at night,
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you telephone him, you are
basically telling the US system,
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the intelligence people,
what you want them to hear
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what you're say.
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- Rather than say, okay,
there's a new president.
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And let's just hand the files over
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and do a peaceful transition.
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They really wanted to mess
with the incoming president
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at a time when he was the most vulnerable,
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which was right after the election
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and his team was preparing.
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And so this culminated with
attacks on General Flynn.
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When General Flynn was doing exactly
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what Susan Rice and
Samantha Power admitted
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in house testimony that they
were doing in their transition.
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If you read the transcripts
Susan Rice admits,
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this is what she did.
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Of course, she had a transition period.
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Of course, they talked to other countries.
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If you weren't talking to other countries,
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you weren't doing your job.
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You were preparing to take
over the national security
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apparatus of the greatest
country in the world.
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- Tensions get unnecessarily high
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with a nuclear armed superpower.
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You don't necessarily know
where things are gonna go.
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So it's probably for the
best to try to keep things
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on a low.
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- In 2015, Putin had said
some complimentary things
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about then candidate, Donald Trump.
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- Donald Trump,
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After Vladimir
Putin, praised Donald Trump
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as, "Undoubtedly a bright
and talented person."
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When
people call you brilliant
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it's always good
especially when the person
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heads up Russia.
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- Candidate Donald Trump responded
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with saying nice things about him.
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He has a total absolute
understanding of who Putin is.
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He knows he's a killer.
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He knows he's an amoral man.
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He's somebody we have to deal.
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Putin maybe somebody you
wouldn't want to deal
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with personally but when I
represent 320 million people
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he has a nuclear weapon,
I better get to know him.
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But they saw that and they could exploit
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those comments that Trump had made,
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which really meant nothing.
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They were less damaging than the comment
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that President Obama had made
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just a few years earlier
when he told Medvedev
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who was sort of Putin's flunky.
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He said, tell Vladimir,
when the election is over
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I can go easier on him.
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Wow.
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Had Trump ever said
that, they'd impeach him.
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Right away.
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The New York Times would
have done an editorial
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the next day and said impeach president,
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wants to sell our a country.
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- They had the picture of Donald Trump.
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And in that picture, they
will, they refuse to admit
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that part of Donald Trump
could be geopolitical.
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Therefore, that of sinister explanations.
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Like his Putin's agent, he was bribed,
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he was corrupted, he was
blackmailed and whatever.
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And that is how the FBI
people were going to get him.
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- You look at this White House now
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and it's hard to imagine two FBI agents
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sending up in the set room.
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How did that happen?
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- I sent them.
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Something I probably wouldn't have done
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or maybe gotten away with in a
more organized investigation,
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more organized administration
in the George W. Bush
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administration for example,
or the Obama administration.
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And in both of those
administrations there was process
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and so if the FBI wanted to
send agents into the White House
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itself to interview a senior
official you would work
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through the White House counsel
and there'd be discussions
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and approvals, and it would be there.
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And I thought it's early enough,
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let's just send a couple of guys over.
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- James Comey and his band of thugs
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at the FBI under his leadership,
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McCabe, Strzok, Paige.
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Comey bragged of this.
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- Oh, I, I pulled that off.
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I basically played a trick
and got away with it.
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If it hadn't been in a more
experienced administration
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I wouldn't have gotten away with it.
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And the audience was,
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oh, isn't it, how funny
to set up an innocent man.
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- James Comey knew the
protocol from the FBI
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was to call over the White House counsel
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and request a meeting with
the national security advisor
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or any other senior staff.
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Mike Flynn sat down with
those two FBI agents.
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They're then supposed to
write what are called 302.
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- A 302 is an FBI report of an interview.
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They interviewed General Flynn,
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just two days into his new term
as national security advisor
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for the newly inaugurated president.
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And they did it in what
was a complete ambush.
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The day that
Mike Flynn had the interview
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with Pete Strzok and Joe Pientka
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several members of the
national security staff
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including the Intelligence
Program's office
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were on Mike Flynn's
calendar for briefing.
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Ezra was part of that team
that was gonna be briefing
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Mike Flynn on that day.
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Flynn had brought in
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a young guy named Ezra Cohen to work
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for him as he went about trying to reset
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the intelligence community's focus.
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He arrived at Flynn's office
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and as he explained it, he's
standing there and he's waiting
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for the meeting to begin
and the time is running over
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and he turns to Flynn's assistant
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and he says, "Who's the
General in there with?"
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And the assistant says, "The General,
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he's in there for a FBI
intelligence briefing."
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This was very confusing
to Ezra because in fact,
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the intelligence briefing
that was supposed
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to be with the FBI was set
up for the following day.
516
00:23:24,619 --> 00:23:26,586
Ezra's waiting there and he starts getting
517
00:23:26,610 --> 00:23:27,891
this incredible sinking feeling
518
00:23:27,915 --> 00:23:31,586
knowing that Mike Flynn
is meeting by himself
519
00:23:31,610 --> 00:23:33,166
with two FBI agents.
520
00:23:33,190 --> 00:23:34,736
Ezra immediately gets on the phone
521
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,680
and calls John Eisenberg, the White House
522
00:23:36,704 --> 00:23:39,306
National Security Council legal advisor.
523
00:23:39,330 --> 00:23:40,851
John Eisenberg is furious.
524
00:23:40,875 --> 00:23:44,071
John races down to Mike Flynn's office.
525
00:23:44,095 --> 00:23:47,026
And as he arrives, Pete
Strzok and Joe Pientka
526
00:23:47,050 --> 00:23:48,533
are leaving the interview.
527
00:23:50,130 --> 00:23:52,806
Following day after the
fateful Flynn interview
528
00:23:52,830 --> 00:23:55,666
there was the scheduled
intelligence briefing.
529
00:23:55,690 --> 00:23:59,130
At the interview was General
Flynn, K.T. McFarland,
530
00:23:59,154 --> 00:24:02,706
Keith Kellog, Ezra
Cohen-Watnick, John Eisenberg.
531
00:24:02,730 --> 00:24:06,663
And from the FBI were Bill
Priestap and Andy McCabe.
532
00:24:08,140 --> 00:24:09,756
McCabe at the end of the meeting
533
00:24:09,780 --> 00:24:12,646
goes to Flynn's desk
and he says, "General,
534
00:24:12,670 --> 00:24:14,086
do you mind if I have a word with you?"
535
00:24:14,110 --> 00:24:15,816
Flynn says, "Sure, absolutely.
536
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,076
What's up, Andy?"
537
00:24:17,100 --> 00:24:19,609
McCabe pulls out the draft interview notes
538
00:24:19,633 --> 00:24:21,911
from the Flynn interview
out of his lock back.
539
00:24:21,935 --> 00:24:24,436
And he says to Flynn, waving it around,
540
00:24:24,460 --> 00:24:26,246
I just wanna let you know, we've decided
541
00:24:26,270 --> 00:24:27,856
there's nothing here and we're considering
542
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,246
this matter closed.
543
00:24:29,270 --> 00:24:31,866
Of course, we know that
this was a complete lie.
544
00:24:31,890 --> 00:24:33,783
One of McCabe's many lies.
545
00:24:34,930 --> 00:24:38,306
After McCabe left Flynn
called back and the group
546
00:24:38,330 --> 00:24:40,456
of NSC staffers that had been there,
547
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,303
pointed to the seat that
McCabe was in and said,
548
00:24:44,327 --> 00:24:47,427
"That is a very bad man
and he's out to get me."
549
00:24:50,670 --> 00:24:52,127
Two or three
days before he resigned,
550
00:24:52,151 --> 00:24:54,487
we got a phone call
from the Washington Post
551
00:24:54,511 --> 00:24:58,577
and a reporter has said that
he had just re-interviewed
552
00:24:58,601 --> 00:25:02,306
Mike Flynn and Mike Flynn made statements
553
00:25:02,330 --> 00:25:04,496
about his phone call to
the Russian ambassador,
554
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,495
said that he hadn't discussed sanctions.
555
00:25:06,519 --> 00:25:08,893
But the Washington Post reporter says
556
00:25:08,917 --> 00:25:11,236
but we have a transcript,
557
00:25:11,260 --> 00:25:14,436
well they were read a transcript
that says the opposite.
558
00:25:14,460 --> 00:25:15,969
So we go into General Flynn's office
559
00:25:15,993 --> 00:25:17,526
and he said, you know,
I've gone over and over.
560
00:25:17,550 --> 00:25:19,096
I can't remember which phone call
561
00:25:19,120 --> 00:25:20,823
I had, what conversation in.
562
00:25:21,670 --> 00:25:24,909
What really struck me was, wait a minute,
563
00:25:24,933 --> 00:25:27,250
they're talking about a phone call
564
00:25:27,274 --> 00:25:30,386
that would have been classified
at the highest level.
565
00:25:30,410 --> 00:25:33,189
It was so highly classified
I didn't even know
566
00:25:33,213 --> 00:25:37,866
that transcript existed much
less was cleared to read it.
567
00:25:37,890 --> 00:25:42,173
And yet somehow the Washington
Post had a copy of it.
568
00:25:45,100 --> 00:25:46,719
When the David
Ignatius article came out of
569
00:25:46,743 --> 00:25:51,656
the Washington Post, Mike Flynn
was summoned by Mike Pence.
570
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,106
He gave us this indication
that something wasn't right,
571
00:25:54,130 --> 00:25:57,199
and what he was referring to was the fact
572
00:25:57,223 --> 00:26:02,223
that Pence had bought into this assault
573
00:26:02,575 --> 00:26:04,176
from David Ignatius.
574
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:05,216
- That story then broke.
575
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:06,866
Let me put it this way,
it had an external effect
576
00:26:06,890 --> 00:26:07,707
and an internal effect.
577
00:26:07,731 --> 00:26:09,759
And the internal effect
was a lot of people
578
00:26:09,783 --> 00:26:12,356
were upset about it.
579
00:26:12,380 --> 00:26:14,326
It was basically the chief of staff
580
00:26:14,350 --> 00:26:15,846
and other various senior
advisors were having
581
00:26:15,870 --> 00:26:18,979
these conversations and they
continued through the weekend.
582
00:26:19,003 --> 00:26:21,536
So Flynn is really coming
583
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:22,886
under an enormous amount of pressure
584
00:26:22,910 --> 00:26:26,075
from the vice president to
explain this call from Kislyak.
585
00:26:26,099 --> 00:26:28,966
It seemed very unusual
that the vice president
586
00:26:28,990 --> 00:26:31,956
would be taking this
level of interest in this.
587
00:26:31,980 --> 00:26:33,926
We now know that it
was because he had come
588
00:26:33,950 --> 00:26:36,236
under the influence of his chief of staff
589
00:26:36,260 --> 00:26:39,261
who of course was compromised
by Comey's inner circle.
590
00:26:39,285 --> 00:26:40,249
They're constantly
591
00:26:40,273 --> 00:26:42,546
making Lieutenant-General Flynn
592
00:26:42,570 --> 00:26:44,756
radioactive to a point where I'm sure
593
00:26:44,780 --> 00:26:46,433
the vice president and president
are saying to themselves,
594
00:26:46,457 --> 00:26:49,138
how do we, how do we get this calmed down?
595
00:26:49,162 --> 00:26:52,889
Maybe if we get rid of
Flynn it will calm down.
596
00:26:52,913 --> 00:26:55,956
- I could tell people
were out to get him fired.
597
00:26:55,980 --> 00:26:57,616
But I ran around and I
started trying to talk
598
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:58,527
to anybody who would listen.
599
00:26:58,551 --> 00:27:00,192
I was like, you can't
do this. This is dumb.
600
00:27:00,216 --> 00:27:01,148
This isn't, he doesn't deserve this.
601
00:27:01,172 --> 00:27:03,268
And also I was trying to appeal
to people's self interest
602
00:27:03,292 --> 00:27:06,056
in saying, if you give
the president's enemies
603
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,426
a scalp like this so early
over something so trivial
604
00:27:08,450 --> 00:27:09,816
you're not feeding the beast.
605
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,388
The beast doesn't get fat
and happy and go to sleep.
606
00:27:11,412 --> 00:27:13,776
It brays for more blood.
607
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:14,959
This will not turn this off.
608
00:27:14,983 --> 00:27:17,013
This will make everything worse.
609
00:27:17,037 --> 00:27:19,290
I can remember at about 6.30 that night
610
00:27:19,314 --> 00:27:21,938
all of us, myself, K.T, General Flynn
611
00:27:21,962 --> 00:27:24,919
and the two executive
assistants all in his office.
612
00:27:24,943 --> 00:27:27,066
We were urging him to try
to see if he could just go
613
00:27:27,090 --> 00:27:28,086
and see him.
614
00:27:28,110 --> 00:27:29,458
Go to the residence and see the president.
615
00:27:29,482 --> 00:27:31,616
And he wouldn't, he wouldn't try.
616
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,146
He's like, I'm not gonna go and,
617
00:27:33,170 --> 00:27:34,476
you know, he has to make his own decision
618
00:27:34,500 --> 00:27:36,046
and I'm gonna leave it
to him and I will abide
619
00:27:36,070 --> 00:27:37,018
by whatever his decision is.
620
00:27:37,042 --> 00:27:39,177
My sense was always that
the president was reluctant
621
00:27:39,201 --> 00:27:40,356
to do it.
622
00:27:40,380 --> 00:27:42,986
Really liked and still
likes General Flynn.
623
00:27:43,010 --> 00:27:44,156
Got along well in the campaign.
624
00:27:44,180 --> 00:27:45,988
They clicked in a way that he didn't click
625
00:27:46,012 --> 00:27:49,097
with any of his other small
team of foreign policy advisors
626
00:27:49,121 --> 00:27:51,256
and really felt the loss.
627
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:52,799
And you could almost tell
he immediately regretted it.
628
00:27:52,823 --> 00:27:56,646
And on Monday at like
eight o'clock at night,
629
00:27:56,670 --> 00:27:59,416
I think, it was when
General Flynn resigned.
630
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:00,916
- We begin with a major shakeup inside
631
00:28:00,940 --> 00:28:03,906
the Trump White House,
national security advisor,
632
00:28:03,930 --> 00:28:05,727
Michael Flynn, forced to resign
633
00:28:05,751 --> 00:28:07,785
after what the administration is calling
634
00:28:07,809 --> 00:28:09,356
an erosion of trust.
635
00:28:09,380 --> 00:28:12,178
At issue, Flynn's call
with the Russian ambassador
636
00:28:12,202 --> 00:28:14,035
on the same day, president Obama
637
00:28:14,059 --> 00:28:16,886
was imposing new sanctions on Russia
638
00:28:16,910 --> 00:28:18,836
because it wasn't-
- Once Flynn was gone,
639
00:28:18,860 --> 00:28:22,326
there was nobody to ride herd
640
00:28:22,350 --> 00:28:25,836
over what the operation
that they had carried over
641
00:28:25,860 --> 00:28:27,705
into the administration was going to do.
642
00:28:27,729 --> 00:28:30,695
And so they got basically carte blanche.
643
00:28:30,719 --> 00:28:33,133
And from there they
began, they were spying
644
00:28:33,157 --> 00:28:36,246
on the president, his
family, his associates,
645
00:28:36,270 --> 00:28:37,722
spying on the administration.
646
00:28:37,746 --> 00:28:41,244
When Flynn left, literally
within two days of that,
647
00:28:41,268 --> 00:28:45,906
Ezra first discovered this
enormous number of unmaskings
648
00:28:45,930 --> 00:28:48,794
that had been done, over 300 of them.
649
00:28:48,818 --> 00:28:51,113
At the
end of January in 2017,
650
00:28:51,137 --> 00:28:56,137
Ezra Cohen was asked to review
a very, very benign policy
651
00:28:57,490 --> 00:29:01,022
on how to unmask US persons' names.
652
00:29:01,046 --> 00:29:05,919
Ezra asked one of his
subordinates to get an example
653
00:29:05,943 --> 00:29:09,222
of how the unmaskings had been kept track
654
00:29:09,246 --> 00:29:12,501
of at the White House so
that they could write this
655
00:29:12,525 --> 00:29:15,156
into the policy.
656
00:29:15,180 --> 00:29:17,596
When he came back the next day,
657
00:29:17,620 --> 00:29:20,686
Ezra came to his office and he found
658
00:29:20,710 --> 00:29:24,246
the phone book size stack
of documents on his desk.
659
00:29:24,270 --> 00:29:27,571
And he was told that
this stack of documents
660
00:29:27,595 --> 00:29:31,090
was the unmasking log from
the Obama White House,
661
00:29:31,114 --> 00:29:34,046
just for the past six months.
662
00:29:34,070 --> 00:29:36,230
Ezra, after consulting with his staff
663
00:29:36,254 --> 00:29:38,676
decided that the prudent
thing to do would be
664
00:29:38,700 --> 00:29:41,950
to notify the NSC legal
advisor, John Eisenberg.
665
00:29:41,974 --> 00:29:44,736
He came back to Ezra several days later
666
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,720
in early February, 2017
and asked him to retrieve
667
00:29:48,744 --> 00:29:53,744
10 of the reports that had
been unmasked by Susan Rice.
668
00:29:54,030 --> 00:29:55,756
As the reports came off the printer,
669
00:29:55,780 --> 00:29:57,910
they began to look at
them in Ezra's office.
670
00:29:57,934 --> 00:30:02,934
It immediately became clear
that their worst fears
671
00:30:03,230 --> 00:30:04,040
were coming true.
672
00:30:04,064 --> 00:30:06,693
That the reports, the
intelligence that Susan Rice
673
00:30:06,717 --> 00:30:09,471
had unmasked, the names
that she had unmasked
674
00:30:09,495 --> 00:30:11,891
were the names of Trump campaign officials
675
00:30:11,915 --> 00:30:15,491
and it dawned on them that
effectively Susan Rice
676
00:30:15,515 --> 00:30:19,341
in her capacity as Obama's
national security advisor
677
00:30:19,365 --> 00:30:22,696
was using her power and authority
678
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:27,500
to surreptitiously spy on and
obtain non-public information
679
00:30:27,524 --> 00:30:31,336
about the activities
of her political rivals
680
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,043
in the Trump transition team.
681
00:30:36,734 --> 00:30:37,966
Ezra's continuing
682
00:30:37,990 --> 00:30:39,667
the mission after Flynn's departure,
683
00:30:39,691 --> 00:30:42,526
that really broke the dam open.
684
00:30:42,550 --> 00:30:45,237
After the brief the president
in the front office,
685
00:30:45,261 --> 00:30:47,536
there was probably a week or two
686
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,536
where they're just trying
to get their heads around
687
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:50,716
what they were even looking at.
688
00:30:50,740 --> 00:30:52,326
It was so shocking.
689
00:30:52,350 --> 00:30:53,596
And they decided that they would engage
690
00:30:53,620 --> 00:30:57,636
with Devin and say, "Hey, do
you know anything about this?
691
00:30:57,660 --> 00:30:58,470
What is going on here?"
692
00:30:58,494 --> 00:31:03,427
Devin Nunez being the one person
elected to political office
693
00:31:03,451 --> 00:31:07,757
really stepped up to help,
kind of peel the onion
694
00:31:07,781 --> 00:31:09,443
open if you will.
695
00:31:13,917 --> 00:31:14,727
- Good afternoon.
696
00:31:14,751 --> 00:31:18,786
I know a lot of you are
not from the US Congress
697
00:31:18,810 --> 00:31:20,736
so I haven't had a chance
to brief a lot of you
698
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,076
in the past but just in order
to keep you all fully updated
699
00:31:24,100 --> 00:31:26,787
on what's happening
with this investigation.
700
00:31:26,811 --> 00:31:30,786
Today, I briefed the
president on the concerns
701
00:31:30,810 --> 00:31:33,287
that I had about incidental collection
702
00:31:33,311 --> 00:31:37,254
and how it relates to
President-Elect Trump
703
00:31:37,278 --> 00:31:40,134
and his transition team.
704
00:31:40,158 --> 00:31:43,066
I mean, I knew it when I saw those,
705
00:31:43,090 --> 00:31:45,276
one of those transcripts leaked.
706
00:31:45,300 --> 00:31:47,963
I knew that we had a big
problem on our hands.
707
00:31:49,521 --> 00:31:52,486
In this very room luckily
we had some Patriots
708
00:31:52,510 --> 00:31:55,216
that came forward from
the intelligence community
709
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,016
and said, look they were
doing some really bad things
710
00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:58,850
with unmaskings.
711
00:31:58,874 --> 00:32:00,206
Well, you need to know about this
712
00:32:00,230 --> 00:32:02,216
and essentially showed
me how to go find it.
713
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,439
I'm not gonna get into
too much of the unmasking
714
00:32:05,463 --> 00:32:10,463
of my sources because there are patriots
715
00:32:10,650 --> 00:32:12,776
and you know, to this day,
nobody knows who they are
716
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,776
and I'm gonna keep it that way.
717
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,636
The morons in the press
think they know who it is.
718
00:32:17,660 --> 00:32:19,846
We're the House Intelligence Committee
719
00:32:19,870 --> 00:32:23,077
we just deal with the 17
intelligence agencies.
720
00:32:23,101 --> 00:32:25,626
We had, you know, people
that were very skilled
721
00:32:25,650 --> 00:32:28,181
in those areas, but we had no
one that was really skilled
722
00:32:28,205 --> 00:32:30,356
at the Department of Justice.
723
00:32:30,380 --> 00:32:32,395
We gotta have somebody who
can bust down the doors
724
00:32:32,419 --> 00:32:35,096
at the FBI and DOJ and we don't have that.
725
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,286
- Kash Patel.
- Kash Patel.
726
00:32:36,310 --> 00:32:39,816
Kash Patel,
or Kash as he's known
727
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,026
in Washington.
728
00:32:41,050 --> 00:32:43,926
- Kash, I believe brought
a very different energy
729
00:32:43,950 --> 00:32:45,156
to that team.
730
00:32:45,180 --> 00:32:47,343
As Jack Lang says, who's
the communications director,
731
00:32:47,367 --> 00:32:50,026
Jack says, you know, is really
relatively sleepy committee.
732
00:32:50,050 --> 00:32:52,335
We barely spoke to the press.
733
00:32:52,359 --> 00:32:54,276
You know, they're pretty easy going.
734
00:32:54,300 --> 00:32:57,176
They're mellow and here's Kash, man.
735
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,236
He's an ethnic New Yorker
from Queens, New York.
736
00:33:01,260 --> 00:33:04,726
Indian family who lived in Africa.
737
00:33:04,750 --> 00:33:09,646
And he just brought an entirely
new energy to that team.
738
00:33:09,670 --> 00:33:12,426
- Kash was fundamental
to gathering information
739
00:33:12,450 --> 00:33:13,260
and pushing this.
740
00:33:13,284 --> 00:33:14,775
He's got great instincts.
741
00:33:14,799 --> 00:33:17,853
This is a guy who really
understands the players.
742
00:33:17,877 --> 00:33:20,396
Kash knows the intelligence community
743
00:33:20,420 --> 00:33:21,736
like I know the State Department.
744
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:26,760
- When he came in to talk
to me and started walking me
745
00:33:27,130 --> 00:33:29,480
through like some of
the problems that at DOJ
746
00:33:30,390 --> 00:33:33,193
just kinda big picture
problems and almost on the spot
747
00:33:33,217 --> 00:33:35,746
I said, do you want a job?
748
00:33:35,770 --> 00:33:36,580
- I told Devin.
749
00:33:36,604 --> 00:33:38,840
I said, yeah, I'll do
the, I'll take the job.
750
00:33:38,864 --> 00:33:42,546
But I was so upset at the lack
of internal accountability
751
00:33:42,570 --> 00:33:44,515
at the DOJ and the FBI that I said
752
00:33:44,539 --> 00:33:47,073
we have to, whatever we
find we're putting out.
753
00:33:47,097 --> 00:33:48,915
And I said look, if we
find something that's bad,
754
00:33:48,939 --> 00:33:51,763
we're putting it out and he goes deal.
755
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:56,539
I work closely with Trey Gowdy
756
00:33:56,563 --> 00:33:58,529
who was on the committee at the time.
757
00:33:58,553 --> 00:34:03,246
And, when I first met him, it
was a memorable experience.
758
00:34:03,270 --> 00:34:05,497
He goes, 'cause he had
just come off Benghazi
759
00:34:05,521 --> 00:34:07,936
and he said well,
welcome to the Hill Kash.
760
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,247
This is where good
investigations come to die.
761
00:34:10,271 --> 00:34:12,176
So we both started laughing.
762
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,430
We honestly thought it
would be an investigation
763
00:34:14,454 --> 00:34:16,699
that almost no one would talk about.
764
00:34:16,723 --> 00:34:18,499
- By the time March comes around,
765
00:34:18,523 --> 00:34:21,110
we have no intelligence
products whatsoever
766
00:34:21,134 --> 00:34:23,426
to tie the Trump campaign to Russia.
767
00:34:23,450 --> 00:34:25,211
All we have is this
dossier that supposedly
768
00:34:25,235 --> 00:34:27,390
they're looking into.
769
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,746
- So the Steele dossier, it would become
770
00:34:33,770 --> 00:34:36,406
the central document
for the investigation.
771
00:34:36,430 --> 00:34:38,786
- And I remember reading
it and as I'm driving home,
772
00:34:38,810 --> 00:34:41,146
I get on the phone and call my best friend
773
00:34:41,170 --> 00:34:42,443
in politics, Mark Meadows.
774
00:34:42,467 --> 00:34:44,036
And I'm like, Mark, this stinks.
775
00:34:44,060 --> 00:34:45,037
There's something going on.
776
00:34:45,061 --> 00:34:48,441
- As soon as I heard
about the Steele dossier
777
00:34:48,465 --> 00:34:51,866
I downloaded a copy and
looked at it and laughed.
778
00:34:51,890 --> 00:34:55,283
- If I saw something
like the Steele dossier,
779
00:34:56,270 --> 00:34:58,576
immediately I'd put Steele
under investigation.
780
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,396
I'd say, what the hell
are you giving me this?
781
00:35:00,420 --> 00:35:01,856
This is, you know, National Inquirer.
782
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,126
I heard about it in the newspaper
783
00:35:03,150 --> 00:35:06,777
I said, "This is ridiculous
that they would premise
784
00:35:06,801 --> 00:35:11,556
an intelligence investigation
on what is clearly
785
00:35:11,580 --> 00:35:12,666
a piece of garbage."
786
00:35:12,690 --> 00:35:14,982
- Everybody in this town, in the swamp
787
00:35:15,006 --> 00:35:17,266
had that dossier, pretty much.
788
00:35:17,290 --> 00:35:19,026
All the left wing reporters
789
00:35:19,050 --> 00:35:20,856
and many high level reporters
790
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,796
at the highest media outlets
were all shopped this dossier.
791
00:35:23,820 --> 00:35:27,563
In fact, they started, you know,
producing fake news stories
792
00:35:27,587 --> 00:35:29,174
based off that dossier.
793
00:35:29,198 --> 00:35:32,271
- A big part of that
New York Times interview
794
00:35:32,295 --> 00:35:37,226
they did with Trump focused
on what's called the dossier.
795
00:35:37,250 --> 00:35:39,433
- Do you think that The
original pee tape dossier
796
00:35:39,457 --> 00:35:41,294
will prove to be true?
797
00:35:41,318 --> 00:35:44,166
Well, we know what he's talking about.
798
00:35:44,190 --> 00:35:45,356
He's talking about Christopher
799
00:35:45,380 --> 00:35:46,396
Steele's... Christopher Steele's
800
00:35:46,420 --> 00:35:47,876
dossier. - So when we went
801
00:35:47,900 --> 00:35:50,906
in to be briefed, it's called
the gang of eight briefing.
802
00:35:50,930 --> 00:35:54,629
Around the first part of January of 2017.
803
00:35:54,653 --> 00:35:58,597
They came to present this
intelligence community assessment.
804
00:35:58,621 --> 00:36:02,656
And at the end, they start
talking about this information
805
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,130
about this dossier information.
806
00:36:04,154 --> 00:36:07,456
Very clearly I ask,
where did this come from?
807
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,178
These are pretty serious accusations
808
00:36:09,202 --> 00:36:13,316
about the, anybody, right?
809
00:36:13,340 --> 00:36:15,636
You know, pee tapes and prostitution
810
00:36:15,660 --> 00:36:17,527
and Moscow hotel rooms, I mean, gosh,
811
00:36:17,551 --> 00:36:20,258
and like, why haven't we seen this?
812
00:36:20,282 --> 00:36:21,092
Right?
813
00:36:21,116 --> 00:36:22,866
Like why haven't we, somebody
should have had this.
814
00:36:22,890 --> 00:36:25,146
You know, that was
essentially the first time
815
00:36:25,170 --> 00:36:26,543
they lied and misled us.
816
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,437
- So the Steele dossier was
out for a couple of months
817
00:36:32,461 --> 00:36:36,826
and I had read it a little
bit, but I didn't focus on it
818
00:36:36,850 --> 00:36:37,946
'cause I didn't realize
it was going to be coming
819
00:36:37,970 --> 00:36:40,406
to work and do this investigation.
820
00:36:40,430 --> 00:36:41,505
So I was like, all right, whatever.
821
00:36:41,529 --> 00:36:44,626
It's just another piece
of the Russia banana show.
822
00:36:44,650 --> 00:36:46,057
And I looked at it and I was like,
823
00:36:46,081 --> 00:36:49,196
there's just no way
this thing is accurate.
824
00:36:49,220 --> 00:36:52,343
And Devin was like, "Well,
how do we figure that out?"
825
00:36:52,367 --> 00:36:54,716
And I said, easy.
826
00:36:54,740 --> 00:36:56,206
Let's take a couple of quick things
827
00:36:56,230 --> 00:36:58,617
that we can readily prove to be accurate
828
00:36:58,641 --> 00:37:00,716
just using public sources.
829
00:37:00,740 --> 00:37:05,740
You know, did person X travel
to Prague on a certain day?
830
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,346
Great, let's go get the airline records.
831
00:37:07,370 --> 00:37:08,296
This isn't hard.
832
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:09,130
Easy.
833
00:37:09,154 --> 00:37:10,246
It's an international trip.
834
00:37:10,270 --> 00:37:11,577
He was either there or not.
835
00:37:11,601 --> 00:37:13,596
And if he wasn't there, where was he?
836
00:37:13,620 --> 00:37:15,235
'Cause if he was in say Montana,
837
00:37:15,259 --> 00:37:18,446
we'd go find the people
that said he was in Montana
838
00:37:18,470 --> 00:37:20,417
or a credit card statement
or a hotel statement.
839
00:37:20,441 --> 00:37:22,486
Then for some of the more outrageous
840
00:37:22,510 --> 00:37:24,216
and salacious components of it,
841
00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:28,155
the name of the hotel that Steele alleged
842
00:37:28,179 --> 00:37:30,097
that President Trump had misbehaved,
843
00:37:30,121 --> 00:37:34,476
there's no such room in that
hotel in Russia, in Moscow.
844
00:37:34,500 --> 00:37:36,976
But the author of the
document we had found out
845
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,956
was an FBI source.
846
00:37:38,980 --> 00:37:40,776
So I said, okay, if he's an FBI source
847
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,206
and I said, Devin he's getting paid.
848
00:37:42,230 --> 00:37:44,316
We had to dig into his
background a little bit
849
00:37:44,340 --> 00:37:45,716
just to verify for ourselves.
850
00:37:45,740 --> 00:37:47,347
Yeah, he's a career intelligence officer.
851
00:37:47,371 --> 00:37:49,516
He's worked with the United States
852
00:37:49,540 --> 00:37:50,896
and other partners around the country
853
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,526
and spent time in Russia
so, it looks good on paper.
854
00:37:53,550 --> 00:37:56,097
But when I found out that
the Department of Justice is,
855
00:37:56,121 --> 00:37:58,146
just because it looks good on paper
856
00:37:58,170 --> 00:37:59,606
doesn't mean that person's legit.
857
00:37:59,630 --> 00:38:03,366
And you know, the biggest
example of that is James Comey.
858
00:38:06,140 --> 00:38:08,709
- Christopher Steele is
allegedly a former spy,
859
00:38:08,733 --> 00:38:10,736
he's willing to do what
his clients want him to do.
860
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,986
And his clients included Hillary Clinton
861
00:38:13,010 --> 00:38:14,070
the Democratic National Committee.
862
00:38:14,094 --> 00:38:16,376
And yes, the FBI.
863
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,251
He met with the FBI during the
campaign at least 13 times.
864
00:38:20,275 --> 00:38:24,446
The document show 11 of those
times he was paid money.
865
00:38:24,470 --> 00:38:26,739
Which agencies weren't involved in helping
866
00:38:26,763 --> 00:38:30,326
either write or push out this dossier?
867
00:38:30,350 --> 00:38:32,436
Now we know the State
Department, for instance
868
00:38:32,460 --> 00:38:34,099
Jonathan Winer, a key official
869
00:38:34,123 --> 00:38:36,556
in the Kerry State Department who really
870
00:38:36,580 --> 00:38:38,386
has nothing to do with Russia,
871
00:38:38,410 --> 00:38:40,966
who looks to me to be,
actually he confessed
872
00:38:40,990 --> 00:38:45,056
to helping create part of what
turned out to be the dossier.
873
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,046
He's not only talking
to Christopher Steele
874
00:38:47,070 --> 00:38:49,244
and is a close buddy and friend of his.
875
00:38:49,268 --> 00:38:51,289
So, you know, in my view, the dossier
876
00:38:51,313 --> 00:38:54,569
really was never Russia dis-info.
877
00:38:54,593 --> 00:38:57,906
It was always Clinton dis-info.
878
00:38:57,930 --> 00:39:01,806
And we can't underestimate how involved
879
00:39:01,830 --> 00:39:05,243
the State Department was in
pushing this dossier lie out.
880
00:39:06,410 --> 00:39:08,059
Through our investigative process
881
00:39:08,083 --> 00:39:13,083
we found out that a firm representing
882
00:39:13,330 --> 00:39:15,681
Christopher Steele, Fusion GPS
883
00:39:15,705 --> 00:39:19,196
was somehow involved in the matter.
884
00:39:19,220 --> 00:39:21,036
- Following the money.
885
00:39:21,060 --> 00:39:23,870
If we could follow the money
we would openly figure out
886
00:39:23,894 --> 00:39:26,746
who was paying Fusion GPS.
887
00:39:26,770 --> 00:39:28,136
- I walked him through the investigation.
888
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:29,926
I said, this is why I think this happened.
889
00:39:29,950 --> 00:39:31,106
This source of X.
890
00:39:31,130 --> 00:39:32,316
We can prove it.
891
00:39:32,340 --> 00:39:33,729
If we subpoena the bank.
892
00:39:33,753 --> 00:39:37,196
And he's like you wanna subpoena a bank?
893
00:39:37,220 --> 00:39:39,092
I said, Devin, give me one
subpoena and if I'm wrong,
894
00:39:39,116 --> 00:39:40,276
you can fire me.
895
00:39:40,300 --> 00:39:43,223
He gave me the subpoena
and we went after the bank.
896
00:39:45,500 --> 00:39:46,936
It wasn't like we served the subpoena
897
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:47,789
and everybody went away.
898
00:39:47,813 --> 00:39:51,796
Fusion GPS forced us into federal court,
899
00:39:51,820 --> 00:39:54,959
into litigation over the subpoena itself.
900
00:39:54,983 --> 00:39:57,428
And, that was when everybody was like,
901
00:39:57,452 --> 00:39:58,986
we're on to something.
902
00:39:59,010 --> 00:40:02,367
- Fusion GPS is a very, I
mean they're very talented
903
00:40:02,391 --> 00:40:03,726
at what they do.
904
00:40:03,750 --> 00:40:05,186
They're a racketeering outfit.
905
00:40:05,210 --> 00:40:08,428
They're essentially they
make things up about people.
906
00:40:08,452 --> 00:40:11,548
They spread it to the people in the press.
907
00:40:11,572 --> 00:40:13,636
They get them to run the fake news stories
908
00:40:13,660 --> 00:40:16,556
and then even worse then
they find different ways
909
00:40:16,580 --> 00:40:19,276
to feed it into the FBI.
910
00:40:19,300 --> 00:40:21,156
- And all of these things sort
of started coming together
911
00:40:21,180 --> 00:40:22,816
in a very unusual fashion.
912
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,236
I said, Devin, we're following the money.
913
00:40:24,260 --> 00:40:25,365
And I'm gonna tell you right now that
914
00:40:25,389 --> 00:40:27,706
the DNC and Hillary paid for this.
915
00:40:27,730 --> 00:40:29,556
It was 9:00 a.m. on a weekday
916
00:40:29,580 --> 00:40:31,393
and he literally looks
at me, he goes Kash,
917
00:40:31,417 --> 00:40:32,447
"If you're gonna start
drinking this morning
918
00:40:32,471 --> 00:40:34,676
get out of my office."
919
00:40:34,700 --> 00:40:36,976
It always goes back to the money.
920
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,336
And it's the easiest thing to follow
921
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,396
because you have to
document it in some fashion
922
00:40:40,420 --> 00:40:41,796
or you got to move it in some way.
923
00:40:41,820 --> 00:40:45,766
We were able to pursue in
to the judge's authority,
924
00:40:45,790 --> 00:40:50,635
allow myself and one other
colleague to visit banks'
925
00:40:50,659 --> 00:40:55,659
attorneys and review in
closed session the records.
926
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:57,466
And we were not allowed to disclose it
927
00:40:57,490 --> 00:40:59,406
to anybody, what we reviewed.
928
00:40:59,430 --> 00:41:03,656
And then finally on the eve
of the ruling of the court
929
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:08,516
Fusion disclosed that Christopher Steele
930
00:41:08,540 --> 00:41:10,686
had been paid by the DNC themselves.
931
00:41:10,710 --> 00:41:14,176
There were names that
would eventually come out
932
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,666
that were being paid by Fusion.
933
00:41:17,690 --> 00:41:20,346
Names now that are public
but at the time weren't.
934
00:41:20,370 --> 00:41:22,856
Nellie Ohr, the wife of Bruce Ohr
935
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,696
was being paid by Fusion GPS;
936
00:41:24,720 --> 00:41:29,316
we would come to learn to
do Russian intelligence
937
00:41:29,340 --> 00:41:33,436
information gathering and
then submit it to the FBI.
938
00:41:33,460 --> 00:41:35,726
We were able to figure out
939
00:41:35,750 --> 00:41:39,446
that the attorneys Perkins Coie,
940
00:41:39,470 --> 00:41:41,706
were the attorneys for the DNC.
941
00:41:41,730 --> 00:41:43,836
Nellie had been working, Bruce's wife
942
00:41:43,860 --> 00:41:45,946
had been working for Fusion GPS.
943
00:41:45,970 --> 00:41:49,146
The folks that Perkins
Coie paid $10 million to,
944
00:41:49,170 --> 00:41:50,966
and then they took that 10 million
945
00:41:50,990 --> 00:41:55,076
and paid Christopher Steele
$168.000 to dig up dirt.
946
00:41:55,100 --> 00:41:58,756
They paid Nellie Ohr, I think
$50.000 to do her research
947
00:41:58,780 --> 00:42:00,196
against the president and his daughter.
948
00:42:00,220 --> 00:42:02,706
And they fed all of that directly
949
00:42:02,730 --> 00:42:06,246
to the Bureau who then used it in the FISA
950
00:42:06,270 --> 00:42:08,206
and in the investigation
against the president.
951
00:42:08,230 --> 00:42:10,944
So now you've connected
the money and the people
952
00:42:10,968 --> 00:42:13,006
and put the political party right
953
00:42:13,030 --> 00:42:14,356
in the middle of your opponent.
954
00:42:14,380 --> 00:42:15,866
It's outrageous.
955
00:42:15,890 --> 00:42:18,156
- I've got to give good
great credit to Devin Nunez
956
00:42:18,180 --> 00:42:20,266
because he was willing
to go the next step.
957
00:42:20,290 --> 00:42:23,716
He was willing to look to
where was the funding coming
958
00:42:23,740 --> 00:42:24,654
from for the dossier.
959
00:42:24,678 --> 00:42:26,786
To go the next step to find out
960
00:42:26,810 --> 00:42:28,266
that this was a political document,
961
00:42:28,290 --> 00:42:29,720
that it was funded by the
Democratic Party itself
962
00:42:29,744 --> 00:42:31,274
and Hillary Clinton's campaign.
963
00:42:31,298 --> 00:42:33,806
We would not have known
that if Devin Nunez
964
00:42:33,830 --> 00:42:35,456
hadn't said, all right,
look, we, you know,
965
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,266
if we're gonna do an, a true assessment
966
00:42:38,290 --> 00:42:41,085
of the veracity of the
information that we're getting,
967
00:42:41,109 --> 00:42:43,026
we're not just gonna
look at the conclusions.
968
00:42:43,050 --> 00:42:46,090
We're gonna look at the substance
behind those conclusions.
969
00:42:46,114 --> 00:42:50,496
Look for biases, look for areas
in which it's not accurate.
970
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,563
And then pursue those to
determine what is the truth.
971
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,416
- If what was said in this
dossier, the central thesis
972
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,464
of the dossier was Carter Page,
973
00:43:01,488 --> 00:43:06,488
Trump campaign associate is
a Russian, basically asset
974
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,763
and the critical mass in the dossier
975
00:43:09,787 --> 00:43:11,843
and the Steele dossier was it said,
976
00:43:11,867 --> 00:43:15,616
"Carter page went to Russia,
met with these two guys,
977
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,216
Russian oligarchs."
978
00:43:17,240 --> 00:43:19,285
And the Steele dossier
said at that meeting
979
00:43:19,309 --> 00:43:24,304
Carter Page, a member of the
Trump campaign negotiated
980
00:43:24,328 --> 00:43:29,328
an agreement whereby he would
get 10 to 15% of Rosneft,
981
00:43:30,390 --> 00:43:34,064
which is like the biggest
gas firm in Russia,
982
00:43:34,088 --> 00:43:38,936
in exchange for his cooperation to work
983
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,076
on behalf of the Russians
to get better agreements
984
00:43:41,100 --> 00:43:43,476
from the Americans when
Donald Trump elected.
985
00:43:43,500 --> 00:43:44,976
Now I told Devin I said, if that's true,
986
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,186
he's a Russian agent.
987
00:43:47,210 --> 00:43:49,685
The FISA was righteous and a lot of people
988
00:43:49,709 --> 00:43:51,686
are gonna have a lot of problems.
989
00:43:51,710 --> 00:43:55,746
But I also said, if that's
false, they're screwed.
990
00:43:55,770 --> 00:43:56,866
If the Steele dossier were true
991
00:43:56,890 --> 00:43:59,340
the Russians were gonna
pay this guy $12 billion.
992
00:44:01,340 --> 00:44:03,716
Like, okay, open up a bank account,
993
00:44:03,740 --> 00:44:05,116
where's this guy gonna move his money.
994
00:44:05,140 --> 00:44:08,336
Turns out they had nothing
to back up their claims.
995
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:09,725
- Kash had gotten FISAs before.
996
00:44:09,749 --> 00:44:14,286
So he knew they had done
something really corrupt
997
00:44:14,310 --> 00:44:15,794
in order to get that warrant.
998
00:44:15,818 --> 00:44:17,293
- We were collecting our documents.
999
00:44:17,317 --> 00:44:20,274
We're talking to the FBI,
we're talking to DOJ.
1000
00:44:20,298 --> 00:44:22,466
And they told us.
1001
00:44:22,490 --> 00:44:24,516
They said, look there, you know, you guys
1002
00:44:24,540 --> 00:44:27,106
are charged with looking
into Russian active measures.
1003
00:44:27,130 --> 00:44:29,306
You should know that this is how
1004
00:44:29,330 --> 00:44:31,906
we surveilled a certain individual
1005
00:44:31,930 --> 00:44:34,513
who we thought had ties
to the Trump campaign.
1006
00:44:34,537 --> 00:44:35,984
And we were like what?
1007
00:44:36,008 --> 00:44:39,813
And then we went and read it
and having done FISAs myself,
1008
00:44:39,837 --> 00:44:44,306
I was like this might be
one of the worst documents
1009
00:44:44,330 --> 00:44:45,330
I've ever seen.
1010
00:44:53,740 --> 00:44:57,906
- The FISA warrant process
has to be followed carefully.
1011
00:44:57,930 --> 00:45:00,746
And it matters because the
warrants issued ex parte.
1012
00:45:00,770 --> 00:45:01,776
Here's what I mean.
1013
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,245
Imagine you're being sued.
1014
00:45:03,269 --> 00:45:05,765
And you don't know you're being sued.
1015
00:45:05,789 --> 00:45:09,186
And you can't have a lawyer
to defend you in court.
1016
00:45:09,210 --> 00:45:11,706
And then you found out
you just lost a lawsuit.
1017
00:45:11,730 --> 00:45:13,366
There's not an American who has said
1018
00:45:13,390 --> 00:45:16,426
that's the most unfair process
I've ever heard in my life.
1019
00:45:16,450 --> 00:45:19,416
And he would say that that's
the FISA court process.
1020
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,743
You're being essentially sued in court
1021
00:45:21,767 --> 00:45:23,663
and you're not allowed to have a lawyer.
1022
00:45:23,687 --> 00:45:26,846
And you're not allowed to even
know that you're being sued.
1023
00:45:26,870 --> 00:45:28,546
You're not allowed to look
at any of the information
1024
00:45:28,570 --> 00:45:30,956
being used against you and you just lost,
1025
00:45:30,980 --> 00:45:32,196
'cause now they have a FISA warrant
1026
00:45:32,220 --> 00:45:33,646
and they can just do whatever they want.
1027
00:45:33,670 --> 00:45:37,246
That goes against
everyone's fundamental sense
1028
00:45:37,270 --> 00:45:38,256
of fairness as a person.
1029
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,446
Now, the reason of course you don't tell
1030
00:45:41,470 --> 00:45:42,696
the person you're about to spy on them
1031
00:45:42,720 --> 00:45:43,986
is because you think they're a terrorist.
1032
00:45:44,010 --> 00:45:45,446
And if you tell them we're spying and you,
1033
00:45:45,470 --> 00:45:47,206
obviously they'll change.
1034
00:45:47,230 --> 00:45:48,956
The compromise of the deal with the devil
1035
00:45:48,980 --> 00:45:51,136
was supposed to be that in exchange
1036
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,492
for not giving the person
the due process rights
1037
00:45:53,516 --> 00:45:55,656
that go back to the Magna Carta,
1038
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,943
that just go back to
your Holy book of choice.
1039
00:45:57,967 --> 00:46:00,686
The idea that if you're accused,
1040
00:46:00,710 --> 00:46:02,566
you're allowed to face your accusers.
1041
00:46:02,590 --> 00:46:05,271
You have this in every
major religious tradition.
1042
00:46:05,295 --> 00:46:07,621
The deal with the devil though is that
1043
00:46:07,645 --> 00:46:10,456
everything will be meticulously audited.
1044
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:11,407
It will be reviewed.
1045
00:46:11,431 --> 00:46:12,476
Everything will be truthful.
1046
00:46:12,500 --> 00:46:13,823
Everything will be bulletproof.
1047
00:46:13,847 --> 00:46:15,947
That procedure, of course wasn't followed.
1048
00:46:17,890 --> 00:46:22,076
- We now know the dossier
was used in the FISA.
1049
00:46:22,100 --> 00:46:25,733
So we had shredded the
credibility of the dossier.
1050
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,076
And then once we found
out it was in the FISA
1051
00:46:29,100 --> 00:46:30,032
we couldn't tell anyone yet.
1052
00:46:30,056 --> 00:46:32,516
Once those two merged, I said, "Devin,
1053
00:46:32,540 --> 00:46:35,726
this is insane that this document was used
1054
00:46:35,750 --> 00:46:38,787
to go up on a surveillance
warrant of an American citizen."
1055
00:46:40,210 --> 00:46:44,506
- The second part of
that FISA is even worse.
1056
00:46:44,530 --> 00:46:47,936
And that is that they ran spies even
1057
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,496
before they got a FISA warrant
into the Trump campaign.
1058
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,986
Governments paid, United States taxpayers
1059
00:46:55,010 --> 00:46:58,976
paying for spies to spy
on a political campaign
1060
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,766
you know, before you
even get a FISA warrant
1061
00:47:00,790 --> 00:47:03,383
and then not only that,
it's exculpatory evidence
1062
00:47:03,407 --> 00:47:05,233
that they don't even tell the court about.
1063
00:47:05,257 --> 00:47:08,446
- It was the first time they
applied for the application
1064
00:47:08,470 --> 00:47:11,883
to spy on Americans, the
FISA court judge said,
1065
00:47:11,907 --> 00:47:15,256
"It sounds like you wanna
spy on political operatives."
1066
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,196
And their application was denied.
1067
00:47:17,220 --> 00:47:18,656
- They knew Christopher Steele was leaking
1068
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:19,886
to the State Department and the news media
1069
00:47:19,910 --> 00:47:22,186
'cause they had the State
Department's documents.
1070
00:47:22,210 --> 00:47:23,426
That's derogatory information.
1071
00:47:23,450 --> 00:47:24,676
They didn't tell the court that.
1072
00:47:24,700 --> 00:47:27,044
They knew that Carter Page
was an asset for the CIA,
1073
00:47:27,068 --> 00:47:28,706
not a stooge for the Russians.
1074
00:47:28,730 --> 00:47:29,986
They didn't the court that.
1075
00:47:30,010 --> 00:47:31,506
They knew that George Papadopoulos
1076
00:47:31,530 --> 00:47:33,615
and Carter Page had made
statements of innocence,
1077
00:47:33,639 --> 00:47:35,686
not knowing they were being recorded by
1078
00:47:35,710 --> 00:47:37,666
the undercover informant Stefan Hopper.
1079
00:47:37,690 --> 00:47:39,596
They don't tell the court that even though
1080
00:47:39,620 --> 00:47:41,776
that's in the, it's in the
book, it's in the manual
1081
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,500
the FBI manual, but you got to do.
1082
00:47:46,140 --> 00:47:48,316
- So now they've begun this giant web
1083
00:47:48,340 --> 00:47:50,606
and if Carter Page or George Papadopoulos
1084
00:47:50,630 --> 00:47:53,516
had contacted me, Steven
Bannon, Kellyanne Conway,
1085
00:47:53,540 --> 00:47:55,736
or anybody else within the campaign,
1086
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,746
it's very likely that all of those people
1087
00:47:57,770 --> 00:47:59,749
were also being listened to.
1088
00:47:59,773 --> 00:48:03,076
That unmasking also occurred
on literally the day
1089
00:48:03,100 --> 00:48:06,266
Donald Trump was sworn as the
45th president United States.
1090
00:48:06,290 --> 00:48:08,776
And they unmasked the Trump children
1091
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,236
who clearly they were also listening to.
1092
00:48:11,260 --> 00:48:12,823
- I knew that I was unmasked.
1093
00:48:12,847 --> 00:48:15,006
That we were targeted.
1094
00:48:15,030 --> 00:48:16,986
It was sort of assumed
that we were targeted.
1095
00:48:17,010 --> 00:48:18,706
I always say, hey, listen, I don't think
1096
00:48:18,730 --> 00:48:20,506
it would be any stretch of the imagination
1097
00:48:20,530 --> 00:48:22,843
to say that I, you know
the son of the president
1098
00:48:22,867 --> 00:48:24,634
of the United States, duly elected
1099
00:48:24,658 --> 00:48:27,066
but as a civilian, as a citizen,
1100
00:48:27,090 --> 00:48:28,532
and as someone who worked on a campaign
1101
00:48:28,556 --> 00:48:32,016
was the number two target
of the greatest hoax
1102
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,040
ever perpetrated on the American people.
1103
00:48:38,470 --> 00:48:42,706
- So I'm generation X and
some kind of significant meme
1104
00:48:42,730 --> 00:48:44,366
that surface before we call them memes
1105
00:48:44,390 --> 00:48:46,296
was six degrees of Kevin Bacon.
1106
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:47,616
This is pre-social media.
1107
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,636
The idea would be how many connections
1108
00:48:50,660 --> 00:48:54,406
would it take you to get to
a world famous celebrity?
1109
00:48:54,430 --> 00:48:57,531
Well, the reason I bring up
six degrees of Kevin Bacon
1110
00:48:57,555 --> 00:49:00,303
is because to spy on the Trump campaign
1111
00:49:00,327 --> 00:49:04,246
the FBI used the three jump rule.
1112
00:49:04,270 --> 00:49:07,482
- In these FISA warrants
when you surveil one party
1113
00:49:07,506 --> 00:49:10,516
you have what is known as a two jump rule.
1114
00:49:10,540 --> 00:49:13,706
You not only get to spy on Carter Page,
1115
00:49:13,730 --> 00:49:16,482
but you get two jumps or
as the Obama administration
1116
00:49:16,506 --> 00:49:20,086
would have it three
jumps from Carter Page,
1117
00:49:20,110 --> 00:49:21,406
the surveilled person.
1118
00:49:21,430 --> 00:49:22,703
- You don't even need three jumps.
1119
00:49:22,727 --> 00:49:24,996
Two jumps gets you everywhere you wanna be
1120
00:49:25,020 --> 00:49:27,482
within the campaign as long as
you have like a network nod.
1121
00:49:27,506 --> 00:49:30,496
- Having wiretapped Carter Page
1122
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,606
you can now wiretap Steve Bannon.
1123
00:49:32,630 --> 00:49:34,616
Corey Lewandowski then talks to Trump,
1124
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:35,856
you've got a third jump.
1125
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,546
So now you're wiretapping everyone.
1126
00:49:38,570 --> 00:49:40,136
So that's what they were trying to do.
1127
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,906
Figuring if they could get
into the Trump campaign
1128
00:49:42,930 --> 00:49:44,594
somewhere, there would be a crime.
1129
00:49:48,050 --> 00:49:50,206
- January 17, the dossier comes out.
1130
00:49:50,230 --> 00:49:51,886
March-April, we start an investigation.
1131
00:49:51,910 --> 00:49:53,663
Summertime we're cranking
on document production
1132
00:49:53,687 --> 00:49:56,151
and collating a list of
witnesses we're gonna interview.
1133
00:49:56,175 --> 00:50:00,143
Fall hit the home run
with the Fusion clowns
1134
00:50:00,167 --> 00:50:03,706
and figure out who paid for the dossier.
1135
00:50:03,730 --> 00:50:07,112
So now we're in September,
October going into the holidays.
1136
00:50:07,136 --> 00:50:09,736
And we had finally also
at this time started
1137
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,246
interviewing witnesses.
1138
00:50:11,270 --> 00:50:13,583
And in December we got Andy McCabe.
1139
00:50:13,607 --> 00:50:16,526
When we asked Andy McCabe,
could you have gotten
1140
00:50:16,550 --> 00:50:18,362
the FISA application against Carter Page
1141
00:50:18,386 --> 00:50:20,533
without the Steele dossier?
1142
00:50:20,557 --> 00:50:21,693
And he said, no.
1143
00:50:25,130 --> 00:50:27,951
And I think we ended
up doing 65 interviews.
1144
00:50:27,975 --> 00:50:29,546
We hit everybody.
1145
00:50:29,570 --> 00:50:31,266
Former attorneys generals, you know,
1146
00:50:31,290 --> 00:50:35,951
Loretta Lynch, Sally Yates,
Andy McCabe, James Comey.
1147
00:50:35,975 --> 00:50:39,209
You know, the central thesis
was the Trump campaign
1148
00:50:39,233 --> 00:50:42,886
colluded with the Russian
government to hijack the election.
1149
00:50:42,910 --> 00:50:43,719
Okay.
1150
00:50:43,743 --> 00:50:44,553
Let's find out.
1151
00:50:44,577 --> 00:50:47,426
So we came up with the three C questions
1152
00:50:47,450 --> 00:50:49,669
we were gonna ask every single witness.
1153
00:50:49,693 --> 00:50:52,216
Do you have any evidence or information
1154
00:50:52,240 --> 00:50:55,276
that the Trump campaign colluded,
conspired or coordinated
1155
00:50:55,300 --> 00:50:57,646
with any member of the Russian government,
1156
00:50:57,670 --> 00:51:00,843
with any member of the Trump
campaign or Trump presidency?
1157
00:51:00,867 --> 00:51:05,386
And all 65 witnesses under
oath said no to every question.
1158
00:51:05,410 --> 00:51:07,298
We had to ask that because
they were saying it
1159
00:51:07,322 --> 00:51:08,946
in the media that that happened.
1160
00:51:08,970 --> 00:51:11,516
So these principals were
the ones who would have
1161
00:51:11,540 --> 00:51:12,906
to know that.
1162
00:51:12,930 --> 00:51:14,606
And if they answered
yes, we'd have to report
1163
00:51:14,630 --> 00:51:15,440
that to the public.
1164
00:51:15,464 --> 00:51:17,746
And they couldn't just
answer a simple question
1165
00:51:17,770 --> 00:51:19,763
of where's the dirt?
1166
00:51:20,750 --> 00:51:22,973
- Reviewing the evidence that I have,
1167
00:51:23,978 --> 00:51:26,267
I don't think you can
conclude that at all.
1168
00:51:26,291 --> 00:51:28,786
- We had not one person claim
1169
00:51:28,810 --> 00:51:31,656
that they had, or had seen evidence
1170
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,466
of Trump colluding with the Russians.
1171
00:51:33,490 --> 00:51:35,206
Not a single one of them could cite
1172
00:51:35,230 --> 00:51:36,731
any evidence whatsoever that they saw.
1173
00:51:36,755 --> 00:51:39,956
That's what was going
on behind closed doors.
1174
00:51:39,980 --> 00:51:42,876
Then on TV, you go there
and you see Schiff come out
1175
00:51:42,900 --> 00:51:44,676
and talking about how
you know, more treason
1176
00:51:44,700 --> 00:51:45,836
has been revealed by Trump.
1177
00:51:45,860 --> 00:51:48,043
- All you have right now
is a circumstantial case.
1178
00:51:48,067 --> 00:51:49,872
- Actually no, Chuck.
1179
00:51:49,896 --> 00:51:52,866
I can tell you that the
case is more than that.
1180
00:51:52,890 --> 00:51:54,881
And I can't go into the particulars
1181
00:51:54,905 --> 00:51:57,691
but there is more than
circumstantial evidence now.
1182
00:51:57,715 --> 00:52:00,136
- Then there was also the
private world of people
1183
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,062
that we would have to interview as well.
1184
00:52:02,086 --> 00:52:04,320
Podesta, Hillary Clinton's campaign.
1185
00:52:04,344 --> 00:52:06,606
The CrowdStrike thing was big deal.
1186
00:52:06,630 --> 00:52:09,286
Podesta is the head of the
campaign or whatever his role was
1187
00:52:09,310 --> 00:52:12,646
had hired these this company to do a scrub
1188
00:52:12,670 --> 00:52:16,551
of their internal services,
to be like who's in our stuff?
1189
00:52:16,575 --> 00:52:17,696
What happened?
1190
00:52:17,720 --> 00:52:18,726
How did this go down?
1191
00:52:18,750 --> 00:52:20,968
Which is a reasonable thing
to do when you get hacked.
1192
00:52:20,992 --> 00:52:23,806
What's an unreasonable
and made up thing to do
1193
00:52:23,830 --> 00:52:27,456
is then falsely tie it to the wrong person
1194
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:28,946
or country or actor.
1195
00:52:28,970 --> 00:52:30,799
Normally what would happen
in this type of hack
1196
00:52:30,823 --> 00:52:33,876
is the FBI would come in and have
1197
00:52:33,900 --> 00:52:36,256
our experts scrub the servers.
1198
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,366
The DNC hired CrowdStrike and CrowdStrike
1199
00:52:39,390 --> 00:52:41,506
was in full control, and James Comey
1200
00:52:41,530 --> 00:52:45,086
has publicly admitted
this, of what servers
1201
00:52:45,110 --> 00:52:46,786
the FBI had access to.
1202
00:52:46,810 --> 00:52:50,036
So the FBI was only given limited access,
1203
00:52:50,060 --> 00:52:52,296
whatever the DNC chose.
1204
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:53,306
So those were the only servers
1205
00:52:53,330 --> 00:52:54,254
they were ever able to look at.
1206
00:52:54,278 --> 00:52:56,642
And this is why you
have the disconnect that
1207
00:52:56,666 --> 00:52:58,306
they've been saying continuously
1208
00:52:58,330 --> 00:53:01,306
that the DNC was hacked.
1209
00:53:01,330 --> 00:53:03,986
It was Podesta's email that was hacked.
1210
00:53:04,010 --> 00:53:06,946
Nobody knows to this day
what actually happened
1211
00:53:06,970 --> 00:53:09,986
because the FBI has never
looked at the entirety
1212
00:53:10,010 --> 00:53:11,966
of the servers from the DNC
and they can turn those over
1213
00:53:11,990 --> 00:53:14,726
at any time they wanted to, but they won't
1214
00:53:14,750 --> 00:53:17,013
because they know it
won't be good for them.
1215
00:53:18,770 --> 00:53:19,946
Stunning
announcement from the White House
1216
00:53:19,970 --> 00:53:23,586
today, President Trump fires
FBI Director James Comey.
1217
00:53:23,610 --> 00:53:26,116
It's only the second time
in history that a president
1218
00:53:26,140 --> 00:53:28,226
has fired the head of the Bureau.
1219
00:53:28,250 --> 00:53:31,046
- I think the insurance
policy morphed over time.
1220
00:53:31,070 --> 00:53:32,667
I think initially the
insurance policy was,
1221
00:53:32,691 --> 00:53:34,536
we're gonna do this investigation.
1222
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:35,846
We're gonna get after the president,
1223
00:53:35,870 --> 00:53:37,436
we're gonna spy his campaign.
1224
00:53:37,460 --> 00:53:38,496
They did all that.
1225
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,696
Donald Trump and the American
people surprised all of them.
1226
00:53:40,720 --> 00:53:42,466
And president Trump wins.
1227
00:53:42,490 --> 00:53:44,598
When he wins the insurance
policy becomes wow,
1228
00:53:44,622 --> 00:53:48,296
we gotta make sure they
don't find out what we did.
1229
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,586
And who better to find
that out, Michael Flynn.
1230
00:53:51,610 --> 00:53:52,926
So they go after Michael Flynn.
1231
00:53:52,950 --> 00:53:55,536
Once they get him gone
they think they're fine
1232
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,156
until Jim Comey gets
fired 'cause Jim Comey
1233
00:53:58,180 --> 00:53:59,946
was traveling into the
next administration too.
1234
00:53:59,970 --> 00:54:02,076
When he gets fired then
the insurance policy
1235
00:54:02,100 --> 00:54:04,273
morphs again and it becomes shazaam,
1236
00:54:04,297 --> 00:54:05,856
we've got to do something now.
1237
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,440
We've lost Comey, we've lost our man.
1238
00:54:07,464 --> 00:54:08,650
So what does Comey do?
1239
00:54:08,674 --> 00:54:11,381
Leaks his memos to get a
special counsel appointed
1240
00:54:11,405 --> 00:54:14,286
and who better than his
best pal, Bob Mueller
1241
00:54:14,310 --> 00:54:15,556
to run it for two years.
1242
00:54:15,580 --> 00:54:17,570
That's how the insurance
policy morphed over time.
1243
00:54:17,594 --> 00:54:21,541
- Robert Mueller is was mid-May, I think.
1244
00:54:21,565 --> 00:54:24,146
Wants his old job back.
1245
00:54:24,170 --> 00:54:27,876
He's out to pasture, clearly he's losing
1246
00:54:27,900 --> 00:54:28,710
his cognitive capacity
1247
00:54:28,734 --> 00:54:31,562
but he thinks, well his buddy's
think that he can come back
1248
00:54:31,586 --> 00:54:34,886
to direct the FBI like he did before.
1249
00:54:34,910 --> 00:54:35,896
And why is that important?
1250
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:39,746
Because if Mueller who's
good buddies with Comey,
1251
00:54:39,770 --> 00:54:44,006
with Weissman, with all
of these Trump hating
1252
00:54:44,030 --> 00:54:49,030
anti-American Democrat cabal operatives.
1253
00:54:49,340 --> 00:54:53,786
If they can get Bob their buddy
back at the Hoover building,
1254
00:54:53,810 --> 00:54:55,736
he can just shred it all.
1255
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,396
He can make all the evidence disappear.
1256
00:54:58,420 --> 00:55:01,806
Operation Crossfire
Hurricane against Mike Flynn.
1257
00:55:01,830 --> 00:55:04,057
Everything else was just be deep sixed.
1258
00:55:04,081 --> 00:55:07,556
So Mueller is escorted to the White House
1259
00:55:07,580 --> 00:55:10,106
by Rod Rosenstein, his friend.
1260
00:55:10,130 --> 00:55:14,756
Rod Rosenstein, arch
deep state swamp creature
1261
00:55:14,780 --> 00:55:18,856
is in fact running Donald
Trump's Department of Justice
1262
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,882
because Jeff's just removed himself.
1263
00:55:21,906 --> 00:55:24,076
President meets with Robert Mueller
1264
00:55:24,100 --> 00:55:25,893
out of professional courtesy.
1265
00:55:25,917 --> 00:55:28,442
Realizes within minutes
1266
00:55:28,466 --> 00:55:32,826
sorry, you can't even
string a coherent sentence.
1267
00:55:32,850 --> 00:55:35,392
You don't represent Making
America Great Again,
1268
00:55:35,416 --> 00:55:38,177
you're old school establishment,
1269
00:55:38,201 --> 00:55:40,286
you're past your sell by date.
1270
00:55:40,310 --> 00:55:41,376
Thank you very much.
1271
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:42,400
No thanks.
1272
00:55:43,820 --> 00:55:48,396
Less than 24 hours later,
the guy who's really running
1273
00:55:48,420 --> 00:55:53,332
the DOJ, Rod Rosenstein makes
his friend Robert Mueller
1274
00:55:53,356 --> 00:55:56,536
the most powerful man in the world.
1275
00:55:56,560 --> 00:56:00,464
He makes him special
counsel, special prosecutor
1276
00:56:00,488 --> 00:56:04,256
who has the power to
bring down the president.
1277
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:05,906
- Mueller should never take in the job.
1278
00:56:05,930 --> 00:56:08,501
He was compromised, he was conflicted
1279
00:56:08,525 --> 00:56:11,536
and it was the appointment arose,
1280
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,206
it flowed from an illegal
act by his friend,
1281
00:56:14,230 --> 00:56:16,526
James Comey that released those files.
1282
00:56:16,550 --> 00:56:17,996
It was part of a coup.
1283
00:56:18,020 --> 00:56:20,186
And when he came on board, he could have
1284
00:56:20,210 --> 00:56:22,298
known and should have known
that there was nothing
1285
00:56:22,322 --> 00:56:25,096
to investigate, and he
should have shut it down.
1286
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,320
Instead he harassed the
president for years.
1287
00:56:28,180 --> 00:56:30,206
And then they have this
extraordinary raid,
1288
00:56:30,230 --> 00:56:32,956
at Manafort's home where they go in
1289
00:56:32,980 --> 00:56:35,716
and start taking pictures of his suits
1290
00:56:35,740 --> 00:56:37,973
to prove that he was
buying expensive suits,
1291
00:56:39,140 --> 00:56:41,036
you know outside of his regular income,
1292
00:56:41,060 --> 00:56:42,283
it's completely absurd.
1293
00:56:44,170 --> 00:56:46,586
They're investigating Russia
and they nail Manafort
1294
00:56:46,610 --> 00:56:49,466
on mortgage fraud and
having expensive suits.
1295
00:56:49,490 --> 00:56:51,487
- They know that there's nothing there.
1296
00:56:51,511 --> 00:56:56,511
Comey and McCabe know that
they have done bad things.
1297
00:56:57,670 --> 00:57:00,186
And the special counsel's
investigation now
1298
00:57:00,210 --> 00:57:04,036
is a way of trying to cover their tracks.
1299
00:57:04,060 --> 00:57:05,339
And they've got their buddies in there
1300
00:57:05,363 --> 00:57:08,116
and they're trying their
best to cover for them.
1301
00:57:08,140 --> 00:57:11,277
And hopefully they will
get one wrong thing
1302
00:57:11,301 --> 00:57:12,950
so that they can make a splash
1303
00:57:12,974 --> 00:57:15,943
and all of their crimes will be forgotten.
1304
00:57:19,550 --> 00:57:21,316
- We were pretty careful
'cause we didn't want
1305
00:57:21,340 --> 00:57:24,066
to step over any lines and
it ends up the corruption
1306
00:57:24,090 --> 00:57:26,816
is just far worse than
even we could have imagined
1307
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:28,666
and we imagined it was pretty bad.
1308
00:57:28,690 --> 00:57:30,110
When the newness memo came out,
1309
00:57:30,134 --> 00:57:31,966
we thought the whole thing's over.
1310
00:57:31,990 --> 00:57:32,800
This blows up.
1311
00:57:32,824 --> 00:57:34,606
It's the end of Mueller, it's
the end of the investigation
1312
00:57:34,630 --> 00:57:37,786
and the investigators
need to be investigated
1313
00:57:37,810 --> 00:57:38,763
- Before it was published,
1314
00:57:38,787 --> 00:57:42,086
they were all saying
that Nunez is reckless.
1315
00:57:42,110 --> 00:57:44,619
This is extremely damaging
to national security.
1316
00:57:44,643 --> 00:57:47,758
The FBI, the DOJ is going to suffer
1317
00:57:47,782 --> 00:57:50,478
all kinds of negative consequences.
1318
00:57:50,502 --> 00:57:52,390
Informants are gonna be outed.
1319
00:57:52,414 --> 00:57:54,028
Everybody's gonna die.
1320
00:57:54,052 --> 00:57:57,106
Nunez is killing everybody,
it's the best way I can sum up
1321
00:57:57,130 --> 00:57:59,056
the narrative that they had
going for him back then.
1322
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,689
Then once the thing actually came out,
1323
00:58:01,713 --> 00:58:05,968
it was clear that the look,
there's no national security
1324
00:58:05,992 --> 00:58:09,116
threats in people finding
out that they used
1325
00:58:09,140 --> 00:58:11,976
the Steele dossier to get a
warrant to spy on Carter Page.
1326
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:13,756
So then at that point the narrative shifts
1327
00:58:13,780 --> 00:58:15,378
to it was a nothing burger.
1328
00:58:15,402 --> 00:58:18,137
There was nothing in this,
all the hoopla over this,
1329
00:58:18,161 --> 00:58:19,546
you know, okay.
1330
00:58:19,570 --> 00:58:22,136
So they you know, they use these
1331
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,916
unconfirmed allegations to
spy on an American citizen.
1332
00:58:24,940 --> 00:58:25,787
What's the big deal?
1333
00:58:25,811 --> 00:58:27,177
Carter Page is a weird guy anyway.
1334
00:58:27,201 --> 00:58:29,336
And then you know, so
I'm sure he deserved it.
1335
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:31,110
You know what, what's the big deal?
1336
00:58:32,860 --> 00:58:36,126
We had information in
there revealing that Comey
1337
00:58:36,150 --> 00:58:40,705
and McCabe had testified
to us that the agents,
1338
00:58:40,729 --> 00:58:43,716
the FBI agents who
interviewed Michael Flynn
1339
00:58:43,740 --> 00:58:45,434
did not think he was lying.
1340
00:58:45,458 --> 00:58:48,535
We had that in our report
and it was redacted.
1341
00:58:48,559 --> 00:58:51,366
And at the time that our report came out,
1342
00:58:51,390 --> 00:58:54,864
Comey was going around on
a book tour on the country
1343
00:58:54,888 --> 00:58:57,496
and saying that he didn't
know anything about that.
1344
00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:59,223
How is it
ethical to brief the president
1345
00:58:59,247 --> 00:59:01,726
of the United States on an unverifiable
1346
00:59:01,750 --> 00:59:03,346
and salacious dossier?
1347
00:59:03,370 --> 00:59:05,836
And how is it ethical
leadership to not tell him
1348
00:59:05,860 --> 00:59:08,956
that his political opposition
Hillary Clinton paid
1349
00:59:08,980 --> 00:59:10,216
for that?
1350
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:13,589
- Shortly after that was when
Schiff came out with his,
1351
00:59:13,613 --> 00:59:16,594
with his counter memo, the Schiff memo
1352
00:59:16,618 --> 00:59:19,616
in which he argued that
everything in the memo
1353
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,006
we said was false, that there
were no problems whatsoever
1354
00:59:22,030 --> 00:59:23,686
in the FISA warrant on Carter Page,
1355
00:59:23,710 --> 00:59:25,066
nothing wrong with the dossier.
1356
00:59:25,090 --> 00:59:25,900
Everything's good.
1357
00:59:25,924 --> 00:59:27,226
The FBI and DOJ did everything right.
1358
00:59:27,250 --> 00:59:29,236
Nunez doesn't know what
he's talking about.
1359
00:59:29,260 --> 00:59:30,426
He just made all this stuff up.
1360
00:59:30,450 --> 00:59:31,826
So they have these two dueling memos.
1361
00:59:31,850 --> 00:59:34,646
But when the Schiff memo came out,
1362
00:59:34,670 --> 00:59:36,685
I mean that was championed by the media
1363
00:59:36,709 --> 00:59:40,146
as the definitive debunking
of the Nunez memo.
1364
00:59:40,170 --> 00:59:41,776
All this stuff that Schiff said is true
1365
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:42,866
because Schiff said it.
1366
00:59:42,890 --> 00:59:45,206
- Devin Nunez was subject to such scorn
1367
00:59:45,230 --> 00:59:47,964
for saying the conclusions
that we brought forth
1368
00:59:47,988 --> 00:59:50,899
in that report, which
all proved to be true.
1369
00:59:50,923 --> 00:59:53,126
The Mueller investigation
had to acknowledge them.
1370
00:59:53,150 --> 00:59:54,986
Today, the Department of
Justice acknowledges them.
1371
00:59:55,010 --> 00:59:59,416
And they certainly contradict
all of the national media
1372
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:02,876
narrative that we all had to
live with for over a year.
1373
01:00:02,900 --> 01:00:06,115
- After the IG report came
out, I would have thought
1374
01:00:06,139 --> 01:00:08,092
there would be some kind of you know,
1375
01:00:08,116 --> 01:00:13,116
little media frenzy,
you know, asking Schiff
1376
01:00:13,610 --> 01:00:15,536
if he stands by his memo.
1377
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:16,746
- Look in the cameras and say they hacked
1378
01:00:16,770 --> 01:00:17,580
John Podesta's emails.
1379
01:00:17,604 --> 01:00:19,326
We know for a fact that
Putin's government did that.
1380
01:00:19,350 --> 01:00:21,046
You can't, and you know you can't.
1381
01:00:21,070 --> 01:00:22,313
And you're hiding behind - I, -
1382
01:00:22,337 --> 01:00:24,846
- Weasel words.
- I just said that-
1383
01:00:24,870 --> 01:00:26,056
- So they hacked John Podesta's-
1384
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:27,265
- The Russians, I'm not gonna be specific
1385
01:00:27,289 --> 01:00:28,107
as to... Oh because
1386
01:00:28,131 --> 01:00:29,273
you don't know it, that's why.
1387
01:00:29,297 --> 01:00:30,107
All right.
1388
01:00:30,131 --> 01:00:33,366
- He would constantly
say, "I have seen evidence
1389
01:00:33,390 --> 01:00:36,886
of collusion and conspiracy,"
the questions we were asking.
1390
01:00:36,910 --> 01:00:37,946
We did it for a reason.
1391
01:00:37,970 --> 01:00:39,866
And we would go to him
and his staff and said,
1392
01:00:39,890 --> 01:00:41,266
okay, are you seeing something we're not?
1393
01:00:41,290 --> 01:00:43,166
'Cause if you are, we'd like to know.
1394
01:00:43,190 --> 01:00:45,716
But he knew he could just say it on TV
1395
01:00:45,740 --> 01:00:47,875
on uncertain organizations.
1396
01:00:47,899 --> 01:00:50,007
And then he would, and then hide behind
1397
01:00:50,031 --> 01:00:51,336
well, it's all classified.
1398
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:52,307
I can't get into it.
1399
01:00:52,331 --> 01:00:55,096
They went straight back to
attacking us personally,
1400
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:56,326
the media and the left.
1401
01:00:56,350 --> 01:00:58,135
So they were more attacks on Devin and me.
1402
01:00:58,159 --> 01:01:00,425
We would always say we're over the target
1403
01:01:00,449 --> 01:01:04,144
when the ass clowns in
the media on the left,
1404
01:01:04,168 --> 01:01:07,606
we're just shelling us at the same time.
1405
01:01:07,630 --> 01:01:09,567
And we knew that was coming
the second we hit send
1406
01:01:09,591 --> 01:01:11,553
and it came hard.
1407
01:01:12,670 --> 01:01:16,006
This story
in the Bee came out when?
1408
01:01:16,030 --> 01:01:18,413
- The cocaine yachts prostitutes story?
1409
01:01:21,950 --> 01:01:25,546
The most absolutely
outlandish stories about Devin
1410
01:01:25,570 --> 01:01:26,906
and it would be so ridiculous,
1411
01:01:26,930 --> 01:01:28,706
things that would absolutely defy belief.
1412
01:01:28,730 --> 01:01:29,889
He was dump farmer.
1413
01:01:29,913 --> 01:01:34,913
He's corrupt and we were
seeing very early on
1414
01:01:34,954 --> 01:01:39,954
these accusations that
he was a Putin stooge
1415
01:01:40,060 --> 01:01:42,386
which really stood out
to us because the guy
1416
01:01:42,410 --> 01:01:45,836
his entire career, he's
been a Russia Hawk.
1417
01:01:45,860 --> 01:01:47,934
And there was, you know, for
example, a giant billboard on
1418
01:01:47,958 --> 01:01:50,636
on our main highway in
the district back home.
1419
01:01:50,660 --> 01:01:55,079
You had analysts talking on
MSNBC speculating whether
1420
01:01:55,103 --> 01:01:58,026
the chairman of the House
Intelligence Committee
1421
01:01:58,050 --> 01:02:00,763
is is actually a Russian asset.
1422
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:06,146
Some person filed the
California equivalent
1423
01:02:06,170 --> 01:02:09,056
of the Freedom of Information
Act against Devin's wife
1424
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:10,578
who's an elementary school teacher
1425
01:02:10,602 --> 01:02:13,313
to get all of her work emails.
1426
01:02:14,300 --> 01:02:15,816
- You know, they started
going after his family
1427
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:18,506
and that's just absurd
and totally off limits
1428
01:02:18,530 --> 01:02:21,763
and writing crazy things on
social media and in articles.
1429
01:02:23,140 --> 01:02:26,269
- I was not just stalked by
the fake and phony press,
1430
01:02:26,293 --> 01:02:28,286
they would hang out
right outside this office
1431
01:02:28,310 --> 01:02:29,997
and follow me everywhere they went.
1432
01:02:30,021 --> 01:02:32,025
For
best supporting actor
1433
01:02:32,049 --> 01:02:34,686
in working with the Trump administration
1434
01:02:34,710 --> 01:02:36,786
and going to meet with
them on the investigation.
1435
01:02:36,810 --> 01:02:39,716
- I also had these big
picture, fake news stories.
1436
01:02:39,740 --> 01:02:42,011
- This was going on both
at the national level
1437
01:02:42,035 --> 01:02:45,689
in the pages of the Washington
Post, the New York Times
1438
01:02:45,713 --> 01:02:48,926
and the local level back home.
1439
01:02:48,950 --> 01:02:50,616
- The media had gone wild.
1440
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:52,926
They had been writing crazy stories
1441
01:02:52,950 --> 01:02:56,076
about everybody, including myself,
1442
01:02:56,100 --> 01:02:57,276
which was unheard of at the time
1443
01:02:57,300 --> 01:02:59,776
to write about a staffer, leak his name,
1444
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,796
call him basically a genocidal dictator.
1445
01:03:02,820 --> 01:03:05,126
- Kash, they kind of
portrayed as this sort
1446
01:03:05,150 --> 01:03:09,941
of machiavellian genius behind what the
1447
01:03:09,965 --> 01:03:12,796
hipsy Republicans were doing.
1448
01:03:12,820 --> 01:03:15,666
You know, a guy you know,
nobody should be listening to.
1449
01:03:15,690 --> 01:03:18,189
- They knew that Kash was the one
1450
01:03:18,213 --> 01:03:20,896
that was giving us the roadmap.
1451
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:22,590
- I remember a specific circumstance
1452
01:03:22,614 --> 01:03:26,306
where Rod Rosenstein was confronted
1453
01:03:26,330 --> 01:03:29,416
with the fact that he had signed renewal
1454
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,106
for this FISA warrant.
1455
01:03:31,130 --> 01:03:33,880
And he turned to Kash
Patel and said to Kash
1456
01:03:33,904 --> 01:03:36,459
that if this did not
stop, if the criticism
1457
01:03:36,483 --> 01:03:40,166
of Rosenstein persisted,
if the efforts to call him
1458
01:03:40,190 --> 01:03:42,676
to account for that
signature were elevated
1459
01:03:42,700 --> 01:03:44,716
that it might be Kash himself that would
1460
01:03:44,740 --> 01:03:46,626
be subject of surveillance
of our government.
1461
01:03:46,650 --> 01:03:48,656
- It used to be politicians
launched grenades
1462
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:50,366
at each other and that
was considered warfare.
1463
01:03:50,390 --> 01:03:51,367
And fair enough, all fair.
1464
01:03:51,391 --> 01:03:52,696
You beat me, I beat you.
1465
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:54,233
We run dirty ads and we can be,
1466
01:03:54,257 --> 01:03:56,404
but now we're getting down
to destroying the reputations
1467
01:03:56,428 --> 01:03:57,956
of individual people.
1468
01:03:57,980 --> 01:04:00,142
- At its core this was
an information operation,
1469
01:04:00,166 --> 01:04:02,741
an information warfare operation.
1470
01:04:02,765 --> 01:04:06,976
It was designed to get
out a specific narrative.
1471
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,916
And that narrative in
this case was that Trump
1472
01:04:09,940 --> 01:04:12,444
is a traitor and he was
colluding with the Russians.
1473
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,666
- The bigger problem is they're reporting
1474
01:04:19,690 --> 01:04:23,106
that their same group of circus animals
1475
01:04:23,130 --> 01:04:27,136
is conducting is not
true, it's not accurate
1476
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:28,496
- You know, in having conversations
1477
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:31,256
with reporters as they were continuing
1478
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:34,303
to play this story out
in the national media.
1479
01:04:34,327 --> 01:04:35,714
And we would explain to them that
1480
01:04:35,738 --> 01:04:38,046
if you go into a classified briefing
1481
01:04:38,070 --> 01:04:39,543
and you receive classified information
1482
01:04:39,567 --> 01:04:42,386
and you step out and you tell reporters
1483
01:04:42,410 --> 01:04:44,244
that information you
have committed a crime.
1484
01:04:44,268 --> 01:04:46,616
If you go to that same classified briefing
1485
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:49,036
and step out and lie about what happened,
1486
01:04:49,060 --> 01:04:50,683
you've not committed a crime.
1487
01:04:50,707 --> 01:04:52,593
So the reporters should be suspect.
1488
01:04:52,617 --> 01:04:55,356
They should question whether
or not this person really
1489
01:04:55,380 --> 01:04:56,526
is committing a crime or whether
1490
01:04:56,550 --> 01:04:58,406
or not they're just spinning them
1491
01:04:58,430 --> 01:04:59,826
and giving them the information that
1492
01:04:59,850 --> 01:05:00,936
they want to have report it.
1493
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,036
- I honestly think most at some point
1494
01:05:03,060 --> 01:05:04,766
would have said, you
know, what, why bother?
1495
01:05:04,790 --> 01:05:06,946
You know, I just, you know
just retire from Congress,
1496
01:05:06,970 --> 01:05:08,316
just go do something else, you know,
1497
01:05:08,340 --> 01:05:10,246
have a quiet life where, you know
1498
01:05:10,270 --> 01:05:13,076
I don't gotta to deal with
this nonsense every single day
1499
01:05:13,100 --> 01:05:15,746
but that's just not Devin's nature.
1500
01:05:15,770 --> 01:05:19,212
His nature is when you're
punched, always punch back.
1501
01:05:19,236 --> 01:05:22,356
And I think that was always his instinct
1502
01:05:22,380 --> 01:05:23,297
through this whole thing.
1503
01:05:23,321 --> 01:05:26,556
I mean, he can't be bullied
and he can't be intimidated.
1504
01:05:26,580 --> 01:05:30,516
And at its root, that is what
the whole media operation
1505
01:05:30,540 --> 01:05:32,886
against him was trying to achieve.
1506
01:05:32,910 --> 01:05:34,776
- Biggest misconception about Devin Nunez
1507
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,256
is that the memo he released was a hoax.
1508
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,386
When in fact, Adam
Schiff's memo was a hoax.
1509
01:05:39,410 --> 01:05:41,932
They attack Devin Nunez for the Nunez Memo
1510
01:05:41,956 --> 01:05:43,956
based on what Adam Schiff says.
1511
01:05:43,980 --> 01:05:45,586
And if you're an honest
person, you would say
1512
01:05:45,610 --> 01:05:48,266
well, how could you just say
the Democrat wrote a memo,
1513
01:05:48,290 --> 01:05:50,736
the Republican wrote a
memo, all politicians lie.
1514
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:52,086
They're both probably full of shit.
1515
01:05:52,110 --> 01:05:52,995
I would be okay with that.
1516
01:05:53,019 --> 01:05:55,466
We know the Adam Schiff claimed
1517
01:05:55,490 --> 01:05:57,623
that he had evidence of Russia collusion
1518
01:05:57,647 --> 01:05:59,983
and he's never called off for any of that.
1519
01:06:00,007 --> 01:06:02,186
But if you're a Republican
making those kinda
1520
01:06:02,210 --> 01:06:03,526
claims, you would never live them down.
1521
01:06:03,550 --> 01:06:05,696
The media's role in the
Russia hoax is complex
1522
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:07,844
because what we had suspected was proven
1523
01:06:07,868 --> 01:06:10,932
ironically of all places
in the Mueller report.
1524
01:06:10,956 --> 01:06:13,336
The Mueller report showed
how the information
1525
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:14,466
laundering works.
1526
01:06:14,490 --> 01:06:17,326
Someone within the FBI leaked something
1527
01:06:17,350 --> 01:06:21,326
to Michael Isikoff or David Corn,
1528
01:06:21,350 --> 01:06:23,576
or someone at the Washington Post.
1529
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:25,776
That person, the Washington
Post writes an article
1530
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:27,246
based on the leak.
1531
01:06:27,270 --> 01:06:30,079
And then the FBI goes and
says, look, we have this story
1532
01:06:30,103 --> 01:06:33,510
about this thing, which means
this thing must be true.
1533
01:06:33,534 --> 01:06:36,736
And then the FBI takes action on that.
1534
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:38,791
And then the information goes
back to the Washington Post.
1535
01:06:38,815 --> 01:06:41,396
That's how the information
laundering cycle works.
1536
01:06:41,420 --> 01:06:43,211
Now, boom, number one story.
1537
01:06:43,235 --> 01:06:47,226
CNN is reporting that this dossier exists
1538
01:06:47,250 --> 01:06:49,151
and it contains scandalous information.
1539
01:06:49,175 --> 01:06:51,591
Who knows if it's true or not?
1540
01:06:51,615 --> 01:06:53,126
It's salacious.
1541
01:06:53,150 --> 01:06:54,676
There's a whole bigger truth thing.
1542
01:06:54,700 --> 01:06:56,130
Does Trump pee on prostitutes?
1543
01:06:56,154 --> 01:06:59,336
Well, I mean, how do you
know that he didn't, right?
1544
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:02,478
I can't say for certainty that he didn't.
1545
01:07:02,502 --> 01:07:05,326
Oh, so now people are like,
oh, Trump peed on prostitutes.
1546
01:07:05,350 --> 01:07:06,160
I can't believe this.
1547
01:07:06,184 --> 01:07:08,326
It was all of course, a big hoax.
1548
01:07:08,350 --> 01:07:09,643
That's how you launder that information
1549
01:07:09,667 --> 01:07:12,046
and you get a document that is based
1550
01:07:12,070 --> 01:07:14,513
on fabrications into the news cycle.
1551
01:07:15,970 --> 01:07:18,486
- For me, going into your
House Intelligence Committee
1552
01:07:18,510 --> 01:07:20,666
it's supposed to be sort
of a closed door meeting.
1553
01:07:20,690 --> 01:07:23,106
I'm there voluntarily
cooperating trying to help.
1554
01:07:23,130 --> 01:07:25,206
I believe I was in there
for nine hours straight.
1555
01:07:25,230 --> 01:07:26,040
And I got it done.
1556
01:07:26,064 --> 01:07:27,106
It was about 7.30 at night.
1557
01:07:27,130 --> 01:07:29,148
I walk out the building, I
finally get my phone back
1558
01:07:29,172 --> 01:07:32,316
you know, open up Twitter
and I'm looking 11.30,
1559
01:07:32,340 --> 01:07:33,476
Don Jr. said this.
1560
01:07:33,500 --> 01:07:35,726
It's supposed to be you
know, behind closed doors.
1561
01:07:35,750 --> 01:07:37,336
And literally at every bathroom break,
1562
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:40,546
someone's leaking to CNN
what's going on in the room.
1563
01:07:40,570 --> 01:07:44,026
Like, why would anyone
voluntarily go in there
1564
01:07:44,050 --> 01:07:46,136
and try to work with them to get answers,
1565
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:47,906
knowing that they have no intention
1566
01:07:47,930 --> 01:07:49,530
of trying to deal in good faith?
1567
01:07:50,370 --> 01:07:53,166
- We're entering into a new
era of information warfare.
1568
01:07:53,190 --> 01:07:55,133
But the information
warfare that most scares me
1569
01:07:55,157 --> 01:07:58,706
is the very tactics that our
defense intelligence agency,
1570
01:07:58,730 --> 01:08:01,186
our CIA, our NSA have used for years
1571
01:08:01,210 --> 01:08:03,224
to create misinformation and propaganda.
1572
01:08:03,248 --> 01:08:05,286
The ability to create false reality
1573
01:08:05,310 --> 01:08:07,533
on social media and news organizations.
1574
01:08:07,557 --> 01:08:10,393
They've now been turned
inward on the American people.
1575
01:08:11,380 --> 01:08:13,346
Somebody created a false illusion
1576
01:08:13,370 --> 01:08:16,736
of a sophisticated,
extraordinary capabilities.
1577
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:19,246
The idea that you're gonna take a document
1578
01:08:19,270 --> 01:08:21,112
that says Carter Page is a CIA asset
1579
01:08:21,136 --> 01:08:23,906
helping the American public
and change it to say no,
1580
01:08:23,930 --> 01:08:26,906
he's a Russian stooge and
fake a court with that,
1581
01:08:26,930 --> 01:08:28,336
fake the Congress with that.
1582
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:29,686
That's how far the FBI went.
1583
01:08:29,710 --> 01:08:31,346
That is information warfare.
1584
01:08:31,370 --> 01:08:33,456
That's misinformation
at the highest levels
1585
01:08:33,480 --> 01:08:35,106
and I don't think the American public
1586
01:08:35,130 --> 01:08:37,916
has come to grips with what
the potential threshold
1587
01:08:37,940 --> 01:08:38,940
we just crossed.
1588
01:08:39,900 --> 01:08:43,686
- It's illegal to possess
these stolen documents.
1589
01:08:43,710 --> 01:08:44,706
It's different for them media.
1590
01:08:44,730 --> 01:08:45,976
So everything you learned about this,
1591
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:47,736
you're learning from us.
1592
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:51,426
- When CNN says on air,
1593
01:08:51,450 --> 01:08:54,716
you the public are not
allowed to look at these.
1594
01:08:54,740 --> 01:08:56,546
That's what we're here to do.
1595
01:08:56,570 --> 01:08:59,362
At some point, you got to say, wow,
1596
01:08:59,386 --> 01:09:03,306
you got some big balls to stand up
1597
01:09:03,330 --> 01:09:06,264
on national television
and tell the entire world,
1598
01:09:06,288 --> 01:09:08,466
don't read this.
1599
01:09:08,490 --> 01:09:09,883
I'll read it to you.
1600
01:09:11,340 --> 01:09:14,996
I have personal friends who are reporters
1601
01:09:15,020 --> 01:09:17,016
or who are in like neoconservative
1602
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:20,766
or neoliberal fields who genuinely
still believe this stuff.
1603
01:09:20,790 --> 01:09:23,476
They still believe it because their jobs,
1604
01:09:23,500 --> 01:09:25,666
their livelihoods, their
histories, their backgrounds
1605
01:09:25,690 --> 01:09:29,726
their resumes depend on them believing it.
1606
01:09:29,750 --> 01:09:30,906
You know, a lot of this will come down
1607
01:09:30,930 --> 01:09:33,836
to the supposed fact checkers and editors
1608
01:09:33,860 --> 01:09:35,986
in newsrooms whose names none of us know
1609
01:09:36,010 --> 01:09:37,406
off the top of our heads.
1610
01:09:37,430 --> 01:09:38,976
What role did they play in all of this?
1611
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:41,816
Isn't their job to send the
bad copy back to Chris Cillizza
1612
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:43,356
and say you know, we can't really put this
1613
01:09:43,380 --> 01:09:44,316
up on the CNN website.
1614
01:09:44,340 --> 01:09:45,177
Well, why not?
1615
01:09:45,201 --> 01:09:47,286
Well, firstly, it's not news.
1616
01:09:47,310 --> 01:09:48,277
It's your opinion.
1617
01:09:48,301 --> 01:09:50,172
And secondly, it's a mental opinion.
1618
01:09:50,196 --> 01:09:52,853
It doesn't bear anything close to reality.
1619
01:09:52,877 --> 01:09:53,910
What are you doing?
1620
01:09:53,934 --> 01:09:56,431
Please, don't send me
anything like this again.
1621
01:09:56,455 --> 01:09:57,267
You know,
1622
01:09:57,291 --> 01:09:59,756
- Police your own industry.
1623
01:09:59,780 --> 01:10:01,676
There should be real journalists
1624
01:10:01,700 --> 01:10:05,776
that stand up and say,
this is a phony reporter.
1625
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:06,713
This is an advocate.
1626
01:10:06,737 --> 01:10:08,866
Don't listen to this person.
1627
01:10:08,890 --> 01:10:10,876
- All those who perpetrated
this false story
1628
01:10:10,900 --> 01:10:12,736
have sat in a bunker and
refused to acknowledge
1629
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:15,136
their wrongdoing, refuse
to do what they ethically,
1630
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:17,312
morally should have done,
which is say, we got it wrong
1631
01:10:17,336 --> 01:10:19,352
and we're sorry, and we'll
be better at it next time.
1632
01:10:19,376 --> 01:10:22,146
But instead we just moved
on to another false scandal
1633
01:10:22,170 --> 01:10:23,446
and created Ukraine.
1634
01:10:23,470 --> 01:10:25,472
And we'll probably create
another false scandal after that.
1635
01:10:25,496 --> 01:10:28,922
- Half the time when CNN
has, oh, bombshell news,
1636
01:10:28,946 --> 01:10:30,586
it was about me.
1637
01:10:30,610 --> 01:10:31,856
And it was a lie.
1638
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:35,083
These same people, right,
that told Congress,
1639
01:10:35,107 --> 01:10:36,264
no, we didn't see anything.
1640
01:10:36,288 --> 01:10:38,246
They literally testified under oath,
1641
01:10:38,270 --> 01:10:40,896
the exact opposite, but
there's no consequence.
1642
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:43,706
We will go on TV day in and day out
1643
01:10:43,730 --> 01:10:46,186
and lie to the American
people to their face.
1644
01:10:46,210 --> 01:10:47,736
And nothing's gonna happen to us.
1645
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:48,737
Why did
you fire Robert Mueller?
1646
01:10:48,761 --> 01:10:49,746
- Fake news, folks.
1647
01:10:49,770 --> 01:10:51,553
Fake news.
- What's your message today?
1648
01:10:51,577 --> 01:10:53,316
- Typical New York Times fake stories.
1649
01:10:53,340 --> 01:10:54,150
Mr Trump?
1650
01:10:54,174 --> 01:10:55,454
- Go back to 2016.
1651
01:10:55,478 --> 01:10:56,746
Trump is Hitler.
1652
01:10:56,770 --> 01:10:57,579
Trump is Hitler.
1653
01:10:57,603 --> 01:10:58,413
Trump is Hitler.
1654
01:10:58,437 --> 01:10:59,766
Trump is evil.
1655
01:10:59,790 --> 01:11:01,406
Trump represents fascism.
1656
01:11:01,430 --> 01:11:02,586
Trump represents
1657
01:11:02,610 --> 01:11:05,696
the rise of the new Reich or something.
1658
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:06,577
This was their narrative.
1659
01:11:06,601 --> 01:11:09,376
And this wasn't something
that was just put out
1660
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:11,866
on the internet or shouted
by the Michael Moore's
1661
01:11:11,890 --> 01:11:13,106
and the Code Pink's of the world.
1662
01:11:13,130 --> 01:11:16,774
This was high level CNN, Washington Post,
1663
01:11:16,798 --> 01:11:20,736
you know, social justice
crusader narratives
1664
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:23,346
and language that was
used in the highest levels
1665
01:11:23,370 --> 01:11:25,336
of America's media institutions.
1666
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:27,422
- New York's Daily News
ran this front page
1667
01:11:27,446 --> 01:11:30,266
earlier this week, "Trump is Hitler."
1668
01:11:30,290 --> 01:11:32,054
- And so then when Trump wins
1669
01:11:32,078 --> 01:11:36,086
and a massive upset, suddenly
they have a big problem
1670
01:11:36,110 --> 01:11:38,636
because how in their walled garden
1671
01:11:38,660 --> 01:11:41,026
can they explain that a guy that they told
1672
01:11:41,050 --> 01:11:44,896
all of their people was the
second coming of Hitler,
1673
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:49,356
how could 62 million Americans
vote for Hitler, right?
1674
01:11:49,380 --> 01:11:51,046
And so they have a big problem there.
1675
01:11:51,070 --> 01:11:52,073
How do you explain that away?
1676
01:11:52,097 --> 01:11:55,626
Are 62 million Americans Nazis, right?
1677
01:11:55,650 --> 01:11:56,597
No, that doesn't make any sense.
1678
01:11:56,621 --> 01:11:58,106
Like that that's a bridge too far.
1679
01:11:58,130 --> 01:12:01,036
Then they see the Russia
collusion narrative
1680
01:12:01,060 --> 01:12:02,826
sitting right there in front of them
1681
01:12:02,850 --> 01:12:05,753
and say why don't we
just say that he cheated?
1682
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:11,776
So in their movie, Trump cheated
1683
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:13,826
with the help of Vladimir Putin
1684
01:12:13,850 --> 01:12:16,236
and then that became
the reason that America
1685
01:12:16,260 --> 01:12:18,706
elected the next Adolf Hitler.
1686
01:12:18,730 --> 01:12:22,206
And that it became useful for
so many various interests.
1687
01:12:22,230 --> 01:12:25,746
Rachel Maddow uses it to
gen up her ratings, right?
1688
01:12:25,770 --> 01:12:27,286
Because she says, we're gonna get them.
1689
01:12:27,310 --> 01:12:28,119
We're gonna catch them.
1690
01:12:28,143 --> 01:12:29,015
We're gonna uncover this.
1691
01:12:29,039 --> 01:12:31,156
- Well, unfortunately
until this is released,
1692
01:12:31,180 --> 01:12:33,562
I can't comment on the
underlying documents,
1693
01:12:33,586 --> 01:12:36,145
but I can say among the changes
that I thought were notable-
1694
01:12:36,169 --> 01:12:37,985
- Instead of some,
1695
01:12:38,009 --> 01:12:40,340
you know, smoking gun
that was always promised
1696
01:12:40,364 --> 01:12:42,536
it's on what's classified.
1697
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:43,836
You can't see it, right?
1698
01:12:43,860 --> 01:12:45,796
That was the game they
played until Rick Grennell
1699
01:12:45,820 --> 01:12:46,717
blew that one up.
1700
01:12:46,741 --> 01:12:48,786
Maybe these guys just actually believe
1701
01:12:48,810 --> 01:12:51,636
that collusion is real and
they're operating in good faith.
1702
01:12:51,660 --> 01:12:54,276
In reality, that wasn't the goal.
1703
01:12:54,300 --> 01:12:56,206
The goal was never to prove collusion.
1704
01:12:56,230 --> 01:12:59,056
The goal was always indictments,
1705
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:01,596
convictions and then impeachment.
1706
01:13:01,620 --> 01:13:05,204
And that was the goal from
the very start of all of it.
1707
01:13:10,879 --> 01:13:12,763
FBI open the door.
1708
01:13:12,787 --> 01:13:15,176
This is exclusive CNN video.
1709
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:17,033
This is what happened this
morning before sunrise,
1710
01:13:17,057 --> 01:13:18,343
just before 6:00 a.m.
1711
01:13:18,367 --> 01:13:22,586
When Roger Stone, long
time Trump associate
1712
01:13:22,610 --> 01:13:24,746
and adviser was taken
into custody by the FBI.
1713
01:13:24,770 --> 01:13:26,926
- On the morning of January 25th,
1714
01:13:26,950 --> 01:13:31,388
25 heavily armed FBI
agents in full SWAT gear
1715
01:13:31,412 --> 01:13:34,506
and brandishing a assault weapons,
1716
01:13:34,530 --> 01:13:37,135
arrived at my home at six
o'clock in the morning
1717
01:13:37,159 --> 01:13:39,788
in 17 armored vehicles.
1718
01:13:39,812 --> 01:13:42,886
There was an FBI helicopter overhead.
1719
01:13:42,910 --> 01:13:44,496
I lived on a canal.
1720
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:47,526
So there were two amphibious
units that pulled up
1721
01:13:47,550 --> 01:13:51,286
to the dock with frog
men who were also armed.
1722
01:13:51,310 --> 01:13:53,566
Then they dragged my wife out of the house
1723
01:13:53,590 --> 01:13:55,786
in her night clothing and bare feet.
1724
01:13:55,810 --> 01:14:00,196
So she could share my
humiliation for the CNN cameras.
1725
01:14:00,220 --> 01:14:03,236
Now CNN's cameras, we know
from the security footage
1726
01:14:03,260 --> 01:14:07,996
shows that the CNN camera
showed up exactly 14 minutes
1727
01:14:08,020 --> 01:14:09,826
before the FBI.
1728
01:14:09,850 --> 01:14:12,946
This would make it the
shortest journalistic stakeout
1729
01:14:12,970 --> 01:14:14,416
in American history.
1730
01:14:14,440 --> 01:14:16,916
I think as most people know I was targeted
1731
01:14:16,940 --> 01:14:20,445
for a political prosecution
because of my longtime support
1732
01:14:20,469 --> 01:14:22,926
and friendship for the president.
1733
01:14:22,950 --> 01:14:25,086
Stone says he's
been encouraging Donald Trump
1734
01:14:25,110 --> 01:14:27,366
to run for president since 1988.
1735
01:14:27,390 --> 01:14:29,086
- I would say that I would
have a hell of a chance
1736
01:14:29,110 --> 01:14:29,920
of winning.
1737
01:14:29,944 --> 01:14:32,366
- Between his outspokenness,
his national name
1738
01:14:32,390 --> 01:14:34,406
identification and his issue positions.
1739
01:14:34,430 --> 01:14:35,905
He could be a formidable candidate.
1740
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:45,516
The indictment against
me came up with nothing.
1741
01:14:45,540 --> 01:14:49,246
They pasted together a
very flimsy indictment
1742
01:14:49,270 --> 01:14:53,256
for lying to Congress even
though the misstatements
1743
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:55,676
I made when I went voluntarily
1744
01:14:55,700 --> 01:14:57,446
to the House Intelligence Committee
1745
01:14:57,470 --> 01:14:59,386
were immaterial.
1746
01:14:59,410 --> 01:15:01,586
They had no underlying crimes.
1747
01:15:01,610 --> 01:15:04,375
It was a Soviet style show trial.
1748
01:15:10,850 --> 01:15:14,146
'Cause I have always said,
the only thing worse than
1749
01:15:14,170 --> 01:15:18,116
being talked about is
not being talked about.
1750
01:15:18,140 --> 01:15:20,106
- I was in Congress for 30 hours.
1751
01:15:20,130 --> 01:15:22,316
I was at the target because
it would generate headlines.
1752
01:15:22,340 --> 01:15:24,696
I'm sure there's an element
of stress on my father
1753
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:26,396
that, hey, they're putting
your kid through this.
1754
01:15:26,420 --> 01:15:28,276
I mean, don't forget, it
wasn't like they were saying,
1755
01:15:28,300 --> 01:15:29,594
Hey, we wanna find out.
1756
01:15:29,618 --> 01:15:32,386
You had the former vice
presidential candidate
1757
01:15:32,410 --> 01:15:34,526
of the United States for the
Democrat Party Tim Kaine.
1758
01:15:34,550 --> 01:15:37,986
Schiff saying that I committed treason.
1759
01:15:38,010 --> 01:15:40,946
Treason is a crime punishable death.
1760
01:15:40,970 --> 01:15:42,596
- Can you imagine carrying that weight
1761
01:15:42,620 --> 01:15:44,556
and that burden as a
president, knowing that
1762
01:15:44,580 --> 01:15:46,726
they're trying to go after your child
1763
01:15:46,750 --> 01:15:48,345
and thinking in some way, hey, look
1764
01:15:48,369 --> 01:15:51,126
they're going after my
son because I'm president.
1765
01:15:51,150 --> 01:15:53,146
Do you ever think maybe at
night you say to yourself,
1766
01:15:53,170 --> 01:15:54,316
gosh, is this worth it?
1767
01:15:54,340 --> 01:15:56,896
They're targeting my family and trying
1768
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:59,536
to destroy them and
going after your children
1769
01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:01,616
President
Trump's son, Donald Trump Jr.
1770
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:03,906
Was back on Capitol Hill
this week to talk about
1771
01:16:03,930 --> 01:16:05,866
his much discussed Trump Tower meeting
1772
01:16:05,890 --> 01:16:07,536
with a Russian lawyer who promised him
1773
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:10,722
damaging political info during the 2016.
1774
01:16:10,746 --> 01:16:13,356
- And he's a father with,
you know, five children
1775
01:16:13,380 --> 01:16:15,906
children having to hear about
this from their friends,
1776
01:16:15,930 --> 01:16:17,253
listen to it, you know, in school,
1777
01:16:17,277 --> 01:16:19,554
see it in the paper,
on television at night.
1778
01:16:19,578 --> 01:16:21,713
It's such a scary thing to see it.
1779
01:16:21,737 --> 01:16:23,042
And your heart breaks.
1780
01:16:23,066 --> 01:16:25,514
You know, when they tell you
they wanna put you in prison
1781
01:16:25,538 --> 01:16:28,806
for life or treason punishable by death.
1782
01:16:28,830 --> 01:16:32,202
Can you imagine when you hear
this or you see this about,
1783
01:16:32,226 --> 01:16:34,696
you know, your father?
1784
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:37,326
- My biggest regret of the last four years
1785
01:16:37,350 --> 01:16:39,426
was not being more vocal
about what they did
1786
01:16:39,450 --> 01:16:40,342
to General Flynn.
1787
01:16:40,366 --> 01:16:44,736
I just said, man, there
must be something here
1788
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:47,216
if this many people that
ran these institutions,
1789
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:49,916
I still believed, I still had faith
1790
01:16:49,940 --> 01:16:51,984
as an American in these institutions.
1791
01:16:52,008 --> 01:16:54,394
And it was the most misguided faith
1792
01:16:54,418 --> 01:16:57,103
I've ever had in anything in my life.
1793
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:01,856
- Former National Security
advisor, Michael Flynn
1794
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:03,726
thought he would walk out of court free
1795
01:17:03,750 --> 01:17:05,253
after a sentencing hearing yesterday.
1796
01:17:05,277 --> 01:17:09,061
- A packed courtroom was
stunned as Judge Emmett Sullivan
1797
01:17:09,085 --> 01:17:11,181
said, he could not hide his disgust
1798
01:17:11,205 --> 01:17:14,093
and his disdain for Flynn's crimes.
1799
01:17:16,340 --> 01:17:20,061
- At first, I thought he
was trying to do everything
1800
01:17:20,085 --> 01:17:22,713
he could to get General
Flynn to scream out,
1801
01:17:22,737 --> 01:17:24,096
"I'm not guilty!"
1802
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:26,826
He threw out the word treason and he said
1803
01:17:26,850 --> 01:17:29,286
you arguably sold out your country
1804
01:17:29,310 --> 01:17:30,826
while you were in the White House.
1805
01:17:30,850 --> 01:17:35,713
I mean, it was just a
breathtaking, excoriating dialogue.
1806
01:17:37,300 --> 01:17:39,193
I was stunned.
1807
01:17:40,220 --> 01:17:45,220
And he even paused after
his tirade for an hour
1808
01:17:45,490 --> 01:17:48,546
while the media runs wild internationally
1809
01:17:48,570 --> 01:17:51,926
with calls of General Flynn
having committed treason.
1810
01:17:51,950 --> 01:17:54,676
The pressure on a criminal defendant,
1811
01:17:54,700 --> 01:17:58,716
particularly in a federal case
is beyond anybody's capacity
1812
01:17:58,740 --> 01:18:01,176
to comprehend unless you've been there.
1813
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:05,836
They threatened to indict
Michael Flynn, the son
1814
01:18:05,860 --> 01:18:10,126
if General Flynn did not
immediately enter a guilty plea.
1815
01:18:10,150 --> 01:18:12,506
Young Michael Flynn had just had a baby.
1816
01:18:12,530 --> 01:18:13,861
He had a four month old little boy.
1817
01:18:13,885 --> 01:18:16,386
He had done nothing wrong.
1818
01:18:16,410 --> 01:18:20,146
He had been forced to sell
his house to pay legal fees.
1819
01:18:20,170 --> 01:18:24,096
They threatened to indict
him just around Thanksgiving
1820
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:26,176
and to indict Michael too.
1821
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:29,376
They just wanted to stop the
pain for the whole family.
1822
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:32,976
They were just broken and in many ways
1823
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:34,493
and saw no other way out.
1824
01:18:35,380 --> 01:18:37,793
He should have never
taken Flynn's guilty plea.
1825
01:18:40,030 --> 01:18:42,563
They knew he was not an agent of Russia.
1826
01:18:42,587 --> 01:18:46,226
They knew there was no
collusion between General Flynn
1827
01:18:46,250 --> 01:18:48,286
and anybody with Russia.
1828
01:18:48,310 --> 01:18:50,556
We learned that they inserted
1829
01:18:50,580 --> 01:18:55,146
into the 302 statements that he never made
1830
01:18:55,170 --> 01:18:58,197
things they never asked
him about to create
1831
01:18:58,221 --> 01:19:00,796
the purported false statements.
1832
01:19:00,820 --> 01:19:04,896
I've seen the FBI manipulate 302s before.
1833
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:09,216
They had done the major changes
the night of February 10,
1834
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:13,083
after they had shown the
purported transcripts
1835
01:19:13,107 --> 01:19:17,626
of the calls with Kislyak
to Vice President Pence.
1836
01:19:17,650 --> 01:19:20,981
And then they went back
that night and made changes.
1837
01:19:21,005 --> 01:19:24,506
It was done and altered
until it was approved
1838
01:19:24,530 --> 01:19:25,803
by Andrew McCabe.
1839
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:31,006
If this can happen to
General Michael T. Flynn,
1840
01:19:31,030 --> 01:19:32,886
or imagine what they do to anybody
1841
01:19:32,910 --> 01:19:35,550
who has a single strike against them.
1842
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:40,912
- There's so much happening
in this country right now
1843
01:19:40,936 --> 01:19:43,261
that boggles the imagination.
1844
01:19:43,285 --> 01:19:45,266
And you're at the very center of it.
1845
01:19:45,290 --> 01:19:49,846
- If one person needs to
apologize to the American people
1846
01:19:49,870 --> 01:19:53,762
for propelling this false
narrative for 3 something years
1847
01:19:53,786 --> 01:19:56,292
it would be Adam Schiff.
1848
01:19:56,316 --> 01:20:00,716
- Adam Schiff is the
modern day Joe McCarthy.
1849
01:20:00,740 --> 01:20:02,186
He would come out of an
intelligence briefing,
1850
01:20:02,210 --> 01:20:04,896
he would say nothing there,
and he'd go collusion.
1851
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:06,456
You just gotta be willing to see it.
1852
01:20:06,480 --> 01:20:09,466
The willingness to see it is
exactly what misinformation
1853
01:20:09,490 --> 01:20:10,417
and propaganda is.
1854
01:20:10,441 --> 01:20:11,891
If the facts are there
and you still see it,
1855
01:20:11,915 --> 01:20:13,133
you're delusional.
1856
01:20:14,830 --> 01:20:17,206
- Transparency is not political.
1857
01:20:17,230 --> 01:20:18,691
And information is power.
1858
01:20:18,715 --> 01:20:21,946
And when individuals
like the gang of eight
1859
01:20:21,970 --> 01:20:24,283
are the only ones to have the information
1860
01:20:24,307 --> 01:20:27,986
then they go on TV and they get to say
1861
01:20:28,010 --> 01:20:31,663
I can't tell you, but
you have to trust me.
1862
01:20:31,687 --> 01:20:36,123
That trust has been broken
because they lied to us.
1863
01:20:38,850 --> 01:20:40,643
- The best way to clean this whole mess up
1864
01:20:40,667 --> 01:20:44,066
is with some indictments.
1865
01:20:44,090 --> 01:20:45,792
That's what people felt during Watergate.
1866
01:20:45,816 --> 01:20:49,026
That's what we all should feel now,
1867
01:20:49,050 --> 01:20:54,023
if we have any sense of keeping
our integrity as a country.
1868
01:20:55,650 --> 01:20:57,426
- You know I don't know
why criminals engage
1869
01:20:57,450 --> 01:20:58,836
in criminal behavior.
1870
01:20:58,860 --> 01:21:00,086
I mean, we can all talk about that
1871
01:21:00,110 --> 01:21:01,456
till we're blue in the face.
1872
01:21:01,480 --> 01:21:03,781
The fact is they engage
in seditious behavior
1873
01:21:03,805 --> 01:21:06,163
and they ought to be prosecuted about it.
1874
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:08,756
I don't know who should go to jail.
1875
01:21:08,780 --> 01:21:11,648
I just want a regular
serious investigation.
1876
01:21:11,672 --> 01:21:14,117
Heck, I just want
someone to be questioned,
1877
01:21:14,141 --> 01:21:16,193
let alone prosecuted.
1878
01:21:17,930 --> 01:21:19,488
Why do you think that is?
1879
01:21:19,512 --> 01:21:20,787
- Because they don't wanna do anything.
1880
01:21:20,811 --> 01:21:22,086
They didn't wanna do anything.
1881
01:21:22,110 --> 01:21:23,326
You're asking the Justice Department
1882
01:21:23,350 --> 01:21:25,900
to investigate themselves,
they're not gonna do it.
1883
01:21:26,950 --> 01:21:28,608
- Does anyone really
believe that FBI lawyer
1884
01:21:28,632 --> 01:21:30,816
changed that document all on his own?
1885
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:32,377
Somebody had to give him that instruction.
1886
01:21:32,401 --> 01:21:35,146
We know somebody gave the
instruction to the FBI agent
1887
01:21:35,170 --> 01:21:36,986
not to close down Mike Flynn's case
1888
01:21:37,010 --> 01:21:38,946
when the law said you
should close it down.
1889
01:21:38,970 --> 01:21:41,436
Now we have a dual justice system.
1890
01:21:41,460 --> 01:21:44,036
There's a Department of
Justice for everyday Americans
1891
01:21:44,060 --> 01:21:46,256
who get punished and there's
a Department of Just-us.
1892
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:47,556
- The thing that they were investigating
1893
01:21:47,580 --> 01:21:49,816
the Trump campaign for colluding
1894
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:54,316
with the Russians is what
they themselves were doing.
1895
01:21:54,340 --> 01:21:56,466
Not just the Democratic
Party and their operatives,
1896
01:21:56,490 --> 01:21:57,666
but also the FBI.
1897
01:21:57,690 --> 01:21:59,106
- The Inspector General's report
1898
01:21:59,130 --> 01:22:01,543
on the FISA abuse and
the Russia investigation
1899
01:22:01,567 --> 01:22:04,336
was about the most damning IG report
1900
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:05,696
in the history of the United States.
1901
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:10,146
And it showed everything we
had done and said was true.
1902
01:22:10,170 --> 01:22:13,386
There isn't any information
'cause if there actually was,
1903
01:22:13,410 --> 01:22:14,876
we would have heard about it by now.
1904
01:22:14,900 --> 01:22:17,646
And the reason there isn't any information
1905
01:22:17,670 --> 01:22:19,716
or evidence to suggest that Trump campaign
1906
01:22:19,740 --> 01:22:21,649
coordinated or conspire colluded
with the Russian government
1907
01:22:21,673 --> 01:22:23,863
is because they did not.
1908
01:22:26,500 --> 01:22:28,416
- These guys have perpetrated
the greatest crime
1909
01:22:28,440 --> 01:22:30,286
against the American people ever seen.
1910
01:22:30,310 --> 01:22:31,626
It was a coup d'etat.
1911
01:22:31,650 --> 01:22:35,026
It was the attempt to take
over a duly elected president
1912
01:22:35,050 --> 01:22:37,636
for their own personal gain.
1913
01:22:37,660 --> 01:22:39,578
- They made an attempt to overthrow
1914
01:22:39,602 --> 01:22:42,656
the outcome of a presidential election.
1915
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:44,746
That was an American coup.
1916
01:22:44,770 --> 01:22:48,046
You can't do with a coup d'etat
that takes place in Africa,
1917
01:22:48,070 --> 01:22:51,076
or Latin America, where
you seize the building
1918
01:22:51,100 --> 01:22:53,396
of the presidency and you
say, I'm the president.
1919
01:22:53,420 --> 01:22:55,700
Some officials in the political police,
1920
01:22:55,724 --> 01:22:59,946
the secret police, they're
the ones who control
1921
01:22:59,970 --> 01:23:01,548
the security machinery.
1922
01:23:01,572 --> 01:23:04,206
And they say, my God we have discovered
1923
01:23:04,230 --> 01:23:06,546
that the president is a foreign agent.
1924
01:23:06,570 --> 01:23:09,756
So we have to arrest
him to save the country.
1925
01:23:09,780 --> 01:23:13,806
If the people in charge
of guarding the state
1926
01:23:13,830 --> 01:23:18,216
choose to turn against the
state, the state is defenseless.
1927
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:20,956
- This is what third
world security states do.
1928
01:23:20,980 --> 01:23:23,406
They spy on their political
opponents like this.
1929
01:23:23,430 --> 01:23:24,908
They try to send them to jail.
1930
01:23:24,932 --> 01:23:26,676
They try to bankrupt them.
1931
01:23:26,700 --> 01:23:29,876
- Once you established this
precedent that you know
1932
01:23:29,900 --> 01:23:33,846
the intel agencies oversee the presidency.
1933
01:23:33,870 --> 01:23:36,198
And if the American people make a mistake
1934
01:23:36,222 --> 01:23:39,506
by electing the wrong
guy and it's up to them
1935
01:23:39,530 --> 01:23:40,986
to correct that mistake.
1936
01:23:41,010 --> 01:23:45,564
And the fact that people think
like that in these agencies
1937
01:23:45,588 --> 01:23:50,126
I think poses a fundamental
threat to democracy.
1938
01:23:50,150 --> 01:23:51,996
- To me, this really is
the crime of the century
1939
01:23:52,020 --> 01:23:52,927
when you think about it.
1940
01:23:52,951 --> 01:23:56,606
When you think about all
these different institutions
1941
01:23:56,630 --> 01:24:00,626
working in concert,
colluding, all working towards
1942
01:24:00,650 --> 01:24:04,728
one goal; to take out the
president of the United States.
1943
01:24:04,752 --> 01:24:09,386
- So I tried to say this was
gonna be bad and warn people.
1944
01:24:09,410 --> 01:24:12,353
And I thought I had a
good grasp of how bad
1945
01:24:12,377 --> 01:24:14,916
it was gonna be and I didn't.
1946
01:24:14,940 --> 01:24:16,859
If you had told me in December or January,
1947
01:24:16,883 --> 01:24:18,950
as the administration was coming in,
1948
01:24:18,974 --> 01:24:22,296
Flynn won't last a month because of an op
1949
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:24,386
that the deep state is
going to run against him,
1950
01:24:24,410 --> 01:24:25,931
I would have said it, come on, it's bad
1951
01:24:25,955 --> 01:24:27,116
but it's not that bad.
1952
01:24:27,140 --> 01:24:28,276
And then it happened.
1953
01:24:28,300 --> 01:24:33,300
So, goes to show you how good
my judgment is.
1954
01:24:34,635 --> 01:24:38,563
- I would say the Russia-gate
has been the most egregious,
1955
01:24:39,875 --> 01:24:44,875
malevolent abuse of
everything that was supposed
1956
01:24:45,130 --> 01:24:47,676
to have been good about our government.
1957
01:24:47,700 --> 01:24:49,610
- It divided the country in
ways that people can't imagine.
1958
01:24:49,634 --> 01:24:51,880
It's inspired massive violence.
1959
01:24:51,904 --> 01:24:55,056
It's given people who are bad faith actors
1960
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:56,960
a license to do whatever they want
1961
01:24:56,984 --> 01:24:59,302
because they literally
feel like they're fighting
1962
01:24:59,326 --> 01:25:04,326
Russian spies and Nazis
and foreign bad actors.
1963
01:25:04,500 --> 01:25:08,026
If you are right wing
and you're a reporter
1964
01:25:08,050 --> 01:25:11,436
or a politician, you will have
your reputation destroyed.
1965
01:25:11,460 --> 01:25:13,066
That's if you're lucky.
1966
01:25:13,090 --> 01:25:16,136
If you're lucky, you'll only
have your reputation smeared.
1967
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:17,832
If you end up like other
people you're gonna get framed
1968
01:25:17,856 --> 01:25:19,316
for crimes.
1969
01:25:19,340 --> 01:25:22,262
- I worry that that is the
future of American politics.
1970
01:25:22,286 --> 01:25:24,363
Personal destruction
at the candidate level
1971
01:25:24,387 --> 01:25:25,606
and the party level is one thing.
1972
01:25:25,630 --> 01:25:27,331
When it starts getting down
to every everyday lives,
1973
01:25:27,355 --> 01:25:29,816
how do you get your
reputation back after that?
1974
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:31,716
The change in tactics now is anyone
1975
01:25:31,740 --> 01:25:33,462
who dare speak up and meet the enemy,
1976
01:25:33,486 --> 01:25:35,766
risks the possibility that they will have
1977
01:25:35,790 --> 01:25:37,876
a false reality launched against them
1978
01:25:37,900 --> 01:25:40,016
to destroy their reputation
and to silence them.
1979
01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:42,596
And I think that can't be
what our founding fathers
1980
01:25:42,620 --> 01:25:44,089
intended when they created
this great democracy
1981
01:25:44,113 --> 01:25:46,216
in this great constitutional Republic.
1982
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:47,867
- The most powerful organs of the state
1983
01:25:47,891 --> 01:25:50,907
are not merely corrupt but
that they'd been weaponized
1984
01:25:50,931 --> 01:25:53,627
to go after perceived domestic enemies.
1985
01:25:53,651 --> 01:25:57,326
And that's very scary and bad.
1986
01:25:57,350 --> 01:25:59,046
It means we don't, we don't
live in the United States
1987
01:25:59,070 --> 01:26:01,746
of America as it is any of us
would like to understand it.
1988
01:26:01,770 --> 01:26:02,966
I don't live in that country anymore.
1989
01:26:02,990 --> 01:26:05,606
The realization of that
is maybe the saddest thing
1990
01:26:05,630 --> 01:26:07,330
I've ever gone through in my life.
1991
01:26:08,390 --> 01:26:10,706
- It's not just that we're
not the United States anymore.
1992
01:26:10,730 --> 01:26:14,016
It's what is your humanity?
1993
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:16,776
What kind of a human being are you
1994
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:18,446
if you are essentially a slave?
1995
01:26:18,470 --> 01:26:20,379
If you are run by intelligence services,
1996
01:26:20,403 --> 01:26:23,706
if you're run by the press,
if these are the people
1997
01:26:23,730 --> 01:26:25,776
who dominate your public sphere.
1998
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:27,406
If these are the people who make decisions
1999
01:26:27,430 --> 01:26:29,426
about how you live, about
how your family lives,
2000
01:26:29,450 --> 01:26:30,866
about how your friends live,
2001
01:26:30,890 --> 01:26:34,946
these are the things that you
have to contest all the time
2002
01:26:34,970 --> 01:26:38,586
if you wish to stay a free
person and a free people.
2003
01:26:38,610 --> 01:26:41,166
- It's time for people to recognize
2004
01:26:41,190 --> 01:26:44,169
that they've got to stand up and push back
2005
01:26:44,193 --> 01:26:48,929
on the media, demand unbiased coverage,
2006
01:26:48,953 --> 01:26:53,953
out those people who are advocates
and not real journalists.
2007
01:26:54,440 --> 01:26:58,656
And tell your neighbors, tell
everybody in your social media
2008
01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:02,616
circle that we are the
greatest country in the world,
2009
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:04,357
that we have the greatest system.
2010
01:27:04,381 --> 01:27:07,986
We may not be perfect,
but our system is perfect
2011
01:27:08,010 --> 01:27:11,326
and we know how to fix problems,
2012
01:27:11,350 --> 01:27:13,716
if we just follow the rules.
2013
01:27:13,740 --> 01:27:17,416
- If I were writing about the
timeframe that we lived in,
2014
01:27:17,440 --> 01:27:18,866
that we're living in now I would say,
2015
01:27:18,890 --> 01:27:20,946
it wasn't supposed to happen.
2016
01:27:20,970 --> 01:27:22,943
They weren't supposed to know.
2017
01:27:24,763 --> 01:27:26,806
- You know, had Hillary Clinton won,
2018
01:27:26,830 --> 01:27:29,596
We wouldn't have known the
different crimes and abuses
2019
01:27:29,620 --> 01:27:31,399
committed by rogue
2020
01:27:31,423 --> 01:27:34,676
law enforcement officials or dirty cops,
2021
01:27:34,700 --> 01:27:37,576
rogue intelligence officials as well.
2022
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:40,080
That's true except you
needed something else.
2023
01:27:40,104 --> 01:27:45,104
Had it not been for Congressman Nunez,
2024
01:27:45,170 --> 01:27:48,156
had he not been willing to do this,
2025
01:27:48,180 --> 01:27:51,486
and had he not had this particular team
2026
01:27:51,510 --> 01:27:54,016
with Kash Patel, with Jack Langer,
2027
01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:56,236
we would not have known what had happened.
2028
01:27:56,260 --> 01:27:57,736
- He stood up to the mob.
2029
01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:00,178
He didn't go along with the narrative.
2030
01:28:00,202 --> 01:28:02,876
He thought the narrative
that the Trump people
2031
01:28:02,900 --> 01:28:04,708
had colluded with Russia was wrong
2032
01:28:04,732 --> 01:28:06,536
and he stood up and he said so
2033
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:09,166
at a time when nobody else
was willing to do that.
2034
01:28:09,190 --> 01:28:11,356
- History has already
exonerated Devin Nunez
2035
01:28:11,380 --> 01:28:13,709
in many ways, because
he stuck to the facts.
2036
01:28:13,733 --> 01:28:15,698
All right, it was an unpopular storyline,
2037
01:28:15,722 --> 01:28:16,869
but he was right
2038
01:28:16,893 --> 01:28:18,858
- Without Nunez we wouldn't know,
2039
01:28:18,882 --> 01:28:20,846
we might not know anything about it.
2040
01:28:20,870 --> 01:28:22,696
I mean, they basically have
gotten away with it scot-free
2041
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:24,258
which is sad 'cause the
system doesn't work.
2042
01:28:24,282 --> 01:28:25,610
But at least it's been exposed.
2043
01:28:25,634 --> 01:28:27,316
And without him it wouldn't.
2044
01:28:27,340 --> 01:28:30,766
- Why is moral courage
among members of Congress,
2045
01:28:30,790 --> 01:28:33,906
a type of moral courage
that Devin Nunez has,
2046
01:28:33,930 --> 01:28:35,116
why is that rare?
2047
01:28:35,140 --> 01:28:37,846
Well, it's rare in Congress
because it's rare in the world.
2048
01:28:37,870 --> 01:28:40,610
It's a rare trait to go against a mob.
2049
01:28:40,634 --> 01:28:43,333
Aristotle had called moral courage,
2050
01:28:43,357 --> 01:28:44,506
"the chief of all virtues,"
2051
01:28:44,530 --> 01:28:46,296
because if you don't have courage,
2052
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:48,036
then you can't be
honorable because sometimes
2053
01:28:48,060 --> 01:28:49,829
to be honorable and honest,
you have to speak out
2054
01:28:49,853 --> 01:28:50,966
against lies.
2055
01:28:50,990 --> 01:28:52,703
You have to stand up to the truth.
2056
01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:56,087
- That's exactly right.
2057
01:28:56,111 --> 01:28:58,926
Every Republican Senator
and member of Congress
2058
01:28:58,950 --> 01:29:02,066
should be saying, this is over.
2059
01:29:02,090 --> 01:29:05,146
We want every damn bit of evidence,
2060
01:29:05,170 --> 01:29:07,426
that every intelligence agency has
2061
01:29:07,450 --> 01:29:11,178
or it's maybe time to
shut those agencies down.
2062
01:30:53,891 --> 01:30:56,891
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