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BEE GEES
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I just think we were intensely affected
by the beginning of rock 'n' roll,
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by Elvis Presley and Lonnie Donegan,
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Tommy Steele,
the Don Lang Five...
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But I really felt the love, the real love of it
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is when I heard Wake Up Little Susie
by the Everly Brothers.
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And I kept on playing it over and over again,
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and I kept on hearing these harmonies.
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So, when we heard
any Everly Brothers songs,
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the three of us would just add a third
harmony, so it would be three-part.
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We perfected it from listening
to those guys and Neil Sedaka,
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where he'd actually triple with himself.
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So, these three-part harmony songs,
anything like that, we could sing.
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We just wanted to get up and play.
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Yeah. We just wanted to have fun.
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In that degree, it was a hobby.
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When did you first get together
and discover you could harmonize?
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The first time I remember,
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Robin and I were about six,
Barry was nine,
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and we sat in the little lounge room
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and Barry'd got his first guitar
for his birthday
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and the first thing we sang was Lollipop.
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- Lollipop.
- The mudlarks sort of thing. It was...
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We just automatically harmonized.
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Don't ask me where we got Lollipop,
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but it was the only one
that helped us harmonize.
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Can you remember it?
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We would just sing songs like Lollipop.
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We would just sing them
and just try and get them better.
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I remember Dad coming in and saying,
''I thought you had the radio on.''
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That was the beginning of the harmonies.
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They became instinctive for us
because we loved the oldies.
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It's incredible, considering
how young we were.
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I was about nine
and maurice and Robin were about six.
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We often thought
we were triplets at one time
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because we all had the same goal,
the ultimate goal ofjust singing together.
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I would say we'd be more three brothers
than twins and an older brother.
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musical creativity
ran right through our family.
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Our father was a band leader
during the war,
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and he then led the band on the ferry
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between Liverpool and the Isle of man.
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Work was pretty difficult in the late '50s
for my dad to come up with.
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He needed a fresh start, and he was
still young enough to do that.
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And he had a responsibility for us, so we...
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It was a natural move, to Australia.
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He was a very ambitious man
and I liked that.
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And we all went. And it was like
a six-week trip across the world.
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For us, it was an adventure.
We didn't know where we were going.
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We got on a ship called The Fairsea with
our parents, and baby Andy, and our sister,
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and traveled for five weeks to Australia,
with very little money.
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We had a ball. We were singing every day
on the front of the boat in the sun.
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- And you crossed the Indian Ocean...
- We went on the Fairsea.
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..went through the Suez Canal,
the Red Sea,
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and you saw things children our age would...
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- It was great!
- ..never have seen.
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Where we settled was Brisbane,
which is quite tropical,
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passion fruit on the streets
and banana trees in everybody's garden.
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And then we started working.
We found different places to go and sing.
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We got the opportunity
to sing in a racing arena.
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We got to know a driver called Bill Goode.
He said, ''You can come and sing.''
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We sang at the Redcliffe speedway
on the back of a flatbed truck
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and collected about
14 pounds off the track.
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People threw money on the track.
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That was our first public engagement.
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The racing driver who got us the gig
knew a disc jockey called Bill Gates,
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and he told him about us.
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And he came, he heard us sing,
and he invited us to the station.
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He was a drive-time DJ.
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He christened us the Bee Gees
as a sort of temporary name,
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his initials, Brothers Gibb, Barry.
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And he asked us to go into his radio station
and record some songs,
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original compositions Barry had written.
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It was Let me Love You,
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Time Is Passing By,
and The Echo Of Your Love.
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And he recorded these on acetate.
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In those days, the acetates were the thing.
They didn't have tape...
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He played it on his drive-time show
for a while.
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We didn't have a recording contract,
but we were on the radio.
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We were only kids and we got the bug,
and we wanted to keep going.
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my father then got an agent because we
were getting work in the pubs in Brisbane.
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And our lives changed, I think, at that point,
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because we worked
and did two to three shows per night.
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It sustained our family,
but we never thought we'd get rich doing it.
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- You all sing together, right?
- Right.
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And your brother Barry plays.
Come on up here.
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Our first television shows,
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I had become very lanky,
very tall and lanky and thin,
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and maurice and Robin
were still the same height.
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So, what they decided to do
was to get two tea chests
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and put Robin and maurice
on each tea chest,
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so we'd be the same height
for the camera.
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You're going to stand up on the higher level.
That's the thing.
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Now, is it true you write
your own pieces, Barry?
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Yes, that's true, Desmond.
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- And what was the song we sang?
- Time Is Passing By.
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So, we stood there. I remember...
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Robin and I were stood like this with our
hands behind our backs going like this.
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We didn't know
what to do with our hands.
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And just standing there going...
and singing away.
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We used to do all these pop shows,
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but they were very live, and there
was no such thing as taping shows.
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We did various songs we'd either written
or heard, songs that were hits at the time.
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There was Lollipop, of course,
and songs that people sang in harmony.
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We were quite regulars on those shows
for a while as kids,
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but we weren't by any means
a really professional act.
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And it was great experience
because you were on the spot.
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Nothing was pre-recorded.
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You picked up your guitar, and you went on,
and you played, and you sang.
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Between 1960 and 1965
was the era of rock-'n'-roll in Australia.
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With its own environment,
its own TV stars,
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its own pop stars, rock stars,
totally unknown to the rest of the world.
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We were on an adventure together,
loving everything we were doing.
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We were just hoping
we could get more recognition,
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but I don't think it was till the Beatles
came along that we realized
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how much we wanted
to have the approval they had.
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When the Beatles came to Sydney,
the magic was unbelievable.
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The whole city was,
like, in this mood of Beatlemania.
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I'd never seen anything like this before.
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I remember going down Pitt Street
and getting a Beatle Fan Club book,
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and looking through what gear they'd got,
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what boots they were wearing,
what outfits, what clothes,
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the amps, the guitars,
the recording session pictures, all this stuff.
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I was mesmerized by them
because they were doing something
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that we loved to do
and they were successful at it.
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So we began to believe in ourselves.
We began to believe,
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''OK, if they can do it, then
we should be able to have a go at doing it.''
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It was not born out of arrogance,
but it was just a blind belief that,
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- ''Hey, you know...''
- ''Why can't we have a shot at that?''
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So, we felt a little bit left out
of the Mersey boom.
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We wanted to be a part of that.
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There was so much energy
and so much excitement about it.
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That was our world. We wanted...
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We're from manchester.
As far as we knew,
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we knew we were Isle of Man born,
but brought up as kids in manchester,
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and we were Northern,
just like the Beatles.
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''What are we doing here?''
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- Righto, chaps, let's have a check. Flaps?
- Check.
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- Rudder.
- Right.
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You have to remember,
this was an era where the UK
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was dictating what happened in the world...
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What happened in the world.
Culturally, musically.
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And we had to be where the action was.
London was the hub.
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As much as we loved Australia,
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we'd had 13 records in a row
not doing that well at all, record-wise.
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So we released our last record,
Spicks And Specks, in Australia,
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and we decided to go back to England.
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We didn't want to miss out
on the mersey boom.
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We didn't know it was coming to an end.
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We were going to make a shock.
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- I was about 18.
- maurice and I were 16.
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- Yeah.
- We told our mother and father that.
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We remember that night
as being fairly turbulent.
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They weren't completely in agreement
or in disagreement.
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So it was very difficult
for mum and Dad to think,
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''Hang on, we're going
to have to give up making a living
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''in order to take this chance...
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''To get back on a ship
and sail five more weeks
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''back across the world to England
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''on the chance that our three sons think
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''they can be stars or be famous.''
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But we told them, ''This is what
we're going to do, mum and Dad.''
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''This is what we're going to do.
And you've got to go with us.
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''You've got to do this with us.''
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We left, but a week out we found out
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that Spicks And Specks had gone
to number one in Australia.
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It just blew us away,
and we're a week out now.
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We're thinking, ''Great.''
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The only people who knew it
were the rest of the Australians on board,
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going, ''Great, nice one,
you got a number one.''
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''Yeah, great for us now.''
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So we ended up going back.
So we came back to England,
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and kissed the docks
of Southampton when we got off.
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There was a pop group
standing on the docks
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dressed like the Beatles
were dressed in Help!
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And they said to us,
''Don't go any further, go back to Australia.''
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''Go back. Groups are dead. Clapton lives.''
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- ''Groups are out...''
- ''Groups are out.''
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And that became the main... the mantra
that we heard no matter where we went,
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''Groups are out.
You haven't got a chance.''
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We ended up in Hendon, in February
of 1967, sleeping on floorboards
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with the dream of
somebody discovering us.
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We'd been round to managers
and they were all saying,
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''Groups are out. It's all solo artists now.''
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The comment that was made to us was,
''It's all Eric Clapton now.''
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So, we got home and mum had said,
''A Mr. Stigweed called.''
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We'd never heard of mr. Stigweed.
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When Dad returned the call,
it was NEMS,
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which was Brian Epstein's organization.
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We sent tapes and records
to the Beatles' manager Brian Epstein
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and his partner Robert Stigwood.
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We didn't know whether
or not they would hear them.
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Robert Stigwood spoke to us.
He had heard the tapes and he wanted...
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Brian had played the songs to him
that we'd sent from Australia.
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He said, ''You write your own songs.
I like what I hear. Can we do business?''
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So, we go to the Saville Theatre in London.
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Robert came in
supported by two gentlemen.
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He looked a bit weary-for-wear,
and he'd had a late night, obviously.
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And we were still performing
our nightclub act...
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Even the Peter, Paul And mary section.
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We did this whole act, and he said,
''Right, be in my office at five.''
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Got up and staggered out.
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So we thought,
''OK... I wonder if he liked us?''
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So, that afternoon we went in
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and then he offered us a five-year contract
to be signed to NEMS.
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And I remember walking in there
and we saw Ringo for the first time.
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We weren't full-fledged rock stars.
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We were a pop group
and there was only three of us,
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so it wasn't really a band,
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and Robert Stigwood brought in
Vince melouney and Colin Petersen
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to help us become a band.
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Two months after that, we were in
the American Top 20 and the British Top 20
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with our first single,
New York mining Disaster.
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Robert Stigwood
was actually the champion in...
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and the jewel in our crown
as far as our career goes,
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because if we hadn't met Robert
at that particular time,
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I don't know which way we'd have gone.
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I remember doing the demo first
of New York Mining Disaster.
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Robert thought it'd be a good idea before
we actually go in and make the album,
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''If you've got any more songs to write,
go in and use the studio.''
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To see what we'd written
since what he had heard.
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And we came up with
about eight to ten songs,
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and there was still that missing song
that he thought he could turn into a hit.
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All of a sudden there was a blackout.
We had no power.
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So we went outside, and while we were
waiting for the power to come back on,
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in the area where
the elevator goes down,
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there were steps on either side,
we just sat on the steps
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and Barry was playing his guitar,
and this was so echoey,
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a wonderful echo in this place,
and it was like being in a mine.
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And the premise was
the Aberfan mining disaster.
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It had broken everyone's heart.
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It was only six months
before we wrote the song.
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Years later, we found out
there was a New York mining disaster,
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in 1939, I think, in the state of New York.
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But that was just the title.
A lot of people referred to it as mr. Jones.
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''Have you seen my wife, mr. Jones?''
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But that was the birth of that,
the total echo effect, the hauntingness of it.
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But it also started us writing about drama
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and pulled us away from the Beatles
Me To You syndrome.
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And, like them,
we started writing in abstraction,
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we started writing
about situations and characters.
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We were working at IBC Studios,
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which was the place
where the Beatles used to record,
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- I believe, up to Abbey Road.
- Yeah.
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And, on its own stage,
there was the mellotron.
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And for the first time in our lives,
we'd ever seen a Mellotron.
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Well, Maurice, of course,
was immediately on the mellotron
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and the song Every Christian Lion
Hearted man came from that sound,
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and that was on the Bee Gees' first album.
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But we were in the same studio
and we were in the same space.
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Robert allowed us to do
what we wanted to do.
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He put us in the studio
with great engineers,
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knowing our voices, and knowing
what we liked to do and knowing our level,
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where we'd reached experimentally,
where we were gonna move from there.
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And we would do that,
and Robert allowed us to do that.
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And at the end of a week,
he would come into the studio
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and listen to what we'd done.
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He wouldn't say, ''Do this'' or ''Do that.''
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He would just listen to what we'd done.
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And his opinion would be,
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''Yes, OK, but maybe this needs that
or this needs that.''
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Or the opposing opinion would be,
''Stupendous.''
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But he was always right.
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We remember a time at 2am,
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Robert had come in
and To Love Somebody was playing,
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and he would call up New York
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and play it in the speaker to Ahmet Ertegun,
the head of Atlantic Records.
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Down the phone. ''Listen to this.
This is their next single.''
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And that's how it was done.
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It was very organic, it was very gut instincts.
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It's so different
to the way things are done now.
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What was really fantastic
about that first year
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is that New York mining Disaster
and then To Love Somebody
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were charting in the American Top 20,
which, you know...
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which was very unusual
even by today's standards
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for first-time records and British artists.
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That was due to Robert Stigwood
and Ahmet Ertegun working together.
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We had the NEMS team.
We had the Beatles' team behind us.
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That's what kicked it all off for us.
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To crack America was the ultimate dream.
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You've got to remember,
when you're from that generation of kids
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growing up in Liverpool
or manchester, or wherever,
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America's pavements are gold.
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Everything is two cars per family,
huge houses.
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I mean, television like, five, ten channels,
you know? We had two.
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To Love Somebody
started with Otis Redding.
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Barry and Robin wrote that with Otis in mind
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in hope that we could
get it to him to record.
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We were going to do it anyway,
but we felt like,
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''Wouldn't it be great
if Otis Redding could sing this?''
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We were influenced a lot in our writing
in those days, even today sometimes,
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by the artists that were around us,
of, ''Who could do this song?''
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We'd write the Beatles' new record,
the Rolling Stones' new record,
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the Hollies' new record,
whatever groups that were out there.
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''What would they release?''
And we'd sing it and it would be us.
307
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I think our career's built
out of jealousy and envy.
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''We gotta beat that.'' It's not a bad thing.
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It was a sense of desperate need
to be acknowledged.
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And when anyone rejected
what we were doing,
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that would make us work harder.
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Because we felt
that we could do something better.
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''Let's try and beat that one.''
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Tonight, massachusetts f rom the Bee Gees!
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I remember doing Top Of The Pops
for the first time.
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It was a great dream,
because that's the show to do.
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You're made if you do Top Of The Pops.
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There became
a melodramatic element in our songs
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as opposed to
an up, celebration type record.
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massachusetts was like that.
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We began to love melodrama,
and we began to love
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what the Beatles
were doing with orchestras.
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We began to recognize that a f ull orchestra
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was just as important to rock-'n'-roll
as an electric guitar was.
325
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It was the f irst time we'd ever had
a number one record.
326
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I remember being told
massachusetts was number one.
327
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We did such a bad show that night.
328
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We were in one of those places
up north where they had the...
329
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the turning stage that goes around,
the revolving stage.
330
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We're on the other side getting ready,
plugging in and getting set up.
331
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Dick runs up and goes, ''massachusetts
has just gone to number one.''
332
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''What?''
And we all looked at each other.
333
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''Oh, my God, it's number one.''
And just as that happened,
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the stage started going round,
and we weren't all plugged in or set up.
335
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We just started the show and we sang what
the hell we wanted to. We couldn't believe it.
336
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We were so over the moon,
we thought we could get away with murder.
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To have a number one in England,
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you have no idea how much
we'd dreamed of this in Australia,
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to have a number one in the UK charts.
340
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We felt like we'd arrived.
341
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The Bee Gees, the most exciting
sound in the world.
342
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We were very, very ambitious and we were
very anxious to make our mark.
343
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If it was a choice between partying
and being in the studio,
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it was definitely gonna be the studio.
345
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It wasn't about having a good time,
346
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a good time to us was being in the studio.
347
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- A good time to us was a good woman.
- Yes.
348
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And in those days the idea
of women crept into our lives.
349
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- And... up to that point...
- Still is.
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Yeah, and...
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Up to that point, women had not.
352
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It began in Australia just before we left,
353
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that women became a sort of ...
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music, women.
355
00:30:03,951 --> 00:30:08,788
So women became a conf liction
between the two subjects.
356
00:30:08,889 --> 00:30:10,990
It was going out with a girl
or writing a song
357
00:30:11,091 --> 00:30:13,626
or it was being a group
or going out with a girl.
358
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So we began to f all in love.
We began to have girlf riends.
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00:30:17,031 --> 00:30:21,768
Actually, you need that to be an artist,
to get that extra sentiment.
360
00:30:21,869 --> 00:30:24,404
So, suddenly, we were no longer kids.
361
00:31:15,089 --> 00:31:18,191
There was a lot of hits in that short time.
All the things were happening.
362
00:31:18,292 --> 00:31:20,593
There was a lot of money all of a sudden,
and cars,
363
00:31:20,694 --> 00:31:23,296
and girlf riends, and love interests
were happening,
364
00:31:23,397 --> 00:31:26,766
and jealousies were happening,
so, the drink came more.
365
00:31:26,867 --> 00:31:28,201
The money became more.
366
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And when you're 18, 19 years of age,
367
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and after all the work we had done,
through clubs and everything,
368
00:31:34,241 --> 00:31:37,043
I felt grown up,
I felt like I'd been through the mill.
369
00:31:48,722 --> 00:31:52,992
In 1967 we became members
of a club called the Speakeasy
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which was an underground club
371
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which was only f or the Beatles
and the Stones and the Who
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00:31:58,766 --> 00:32:02,902
and Otis Redding and Sam & Dave...
373
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Yeah, Ahmet Ertegun
and Robert and Brian Epstein.
374
00:32:08,175 --> 00:32:11,377
It was virtually a closed club.
375
00:32:11,478 --> 00:32:15,815
You went downstairs and there was a coffin,
376
00:32:15,916 --> 00:32:17,984
and if you were allowed in,
377
00:32:18,085 --> 00:32:22,322
if you were somebody they knew
and you were supposed to go in,
378
00:32:22,423 --> 00:32:26,459
the wall would turn round
and the coffin would turn round.
379
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,729
And in you would go, and there'd be
George Best playing the machines
380
00:32:29,830 --> 00:32:34,133
and the Stones would be lying
around all over the place.
381
00:32:34,234 --> 00:32:36,302
- And...
- Great days.
382
00:32:36,403 --> 00:32:41,240
It was one of those days
that I met John Lennon f rom the back.
383
00:32:41,342 --> 00:32:43,176
I never met John Lennon f rom the f ront.
384
00:32:49,717 --> 00:32:53,052
It was Pete Townshend
who introduced me to John Lennon
385
00:32:53,153 --> 00:32:57,857
and what I remember is,
''Barry, I'd like you to meet John Lennon.''
386
00:32:57,958 --> 00:33:00,360
''John Lennon, pleased to meet you.''
387
00:33:01,462 --> 00:33:04,197
And carried on talking to somebody else.
388
00:33:04,298 --> 00:33:07,500
So I thought to myself,
''Well, I've met John Lennon.''
389
00:33:07,601 --> 00:33:11,204
I had John Lennon's black-windowed
mini Cooper S. I bought that car off him.
390
00:33:11,305 --> 00:33:14,640
And so I was involved, I became part
of the inner circle of all those guys,
391
00:33:14,742 --> 00:33:18,244
and I was going to parties and
the magical mystery Tour and...
392
00:33:18,345 --> 00:33:20,079
it was like a wild world f or me.
393
00:33:20,180 --> 00:33:24,017
When you think that f ive months
before all this was going on,
394
00:33:24,118 --> 00:33:27,286
I was in Pitt Street buying
the Beatle Fan Club book,
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the same time, and now here I am
partying with these guys, my heroes.
396
00:33:33,027 --> 00:33:35,094
Let's have a wonderfully warm reception
397
00:33:35,195 --> 00:33:39,198
f or the attractive Bee Gees
and soloist Barry Gibb.
398
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- We did Ed Sullivan.
- Dick Cavett and mike Douglas.
399
00:34:16,136 --> 00:34:19,505
- Merv Griffin.
- Johnny Carson.
400
00:34:19,606 --> 00:34:23,342
We did eleven Johnny Carson shows
over the years.
401
00:34:23,444 --> 00:34:26,946
There wasn't any decisive point
where we moved to America,
402
00:34:27,047 --> 00:34:30,616
because it was an international scene
f rom 1967 onwards.
403
00:34:30,717 --> 00:34:33,286
Wherever you were based,
you had to go to America.
404
00:34:33,387 --> 00:34:35,521
- It was England or America.
- Yeah.
405
00:34:35,622 --> 00:34:36,989
It had to be one of the two.
406
00:34:37,091 --> 00:34:40,359
No other country in the world
could give you international f ame.
407
00:35:19,933 --> 00:35:23,236
It's hard to speak about Odessa
in any coherent way,
408
00:35:23,337 --> 00:35:27,373
because it wasn't actually a planned album,
it was just a collection of songs.
409
00:35:27,474 --> 00:35:29,542
We thought we were going to do
a concept album...
410
00:35:29,643 --> 00:35:30,910
Yeah. Because of Tommy
411
00:35:31,011 --> 00:35:35,114
and because of Robert's connection
to these types of things,
412
00:35:35,215 --> 00:35:36,782
he wanted us to do a rock opera.
413
00:35:36,884 --> 00:35:39,218
And we wanted to put it on the stage.
414
00:35:39,319 --> 00:35:44,190
And instead of writing a rock opera,
we just came up with a mish-mash.
415
00:35:44,291 --> 00:35:47,026
We just came up with a bunch of songs
416
00:35:47,127 --> 00:35:49,762
that we thought we were
going somewhere with,
417
00:35:49,863 --> 00:35:51,931
but I think we were extremely weary.
418
00:35:52,032 --> 00:35:54,967
I think even at such a young age,
419
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we'd been through
quite a number of albums very quickly.
420
00:35:57,671 --> 00:36:01,340
We could no longer deal with each other,
could no longer deal with each other.
421
00:36:01,441 --> 00:36:03,943
And...the three of us drifted apart.
422
00:36:04,044 --> 00:36:07,146
In f act, I'd say the f our of us drifted apart,
including Robert.
423
00:36:07,247 --> 00:36:10,149
- Robert went off to make his movies...
- There were distractions.
424
00:36:10,250 --> 00:36:13,953
All the distractions that success brings
for someone like him.
425
00:36:14,054 --> 00:36:19,058
And so, we...we let that lie.
426
00:36:19,159 --> 00:36:22,094
That album never really got f inished,
never really got f inished.
427
00:36:22,196 --> 00:36:26,432
Everyone was doing real well,
and there was the jealousy thing going on.
428
00:36:26,533 --> 00:36:28,834
What happened is First Of may, the record,
429
00:36:28,936 --> 00:36:31,737
was coming out, and everybody
went f or First Of may
430
00:36:31,838 --> 00:36:34,373
as the A-side,
and Barry was singing the lead on that.
431
00:36:34,474 --> 00:36:37,376
On the other side was Lamplight,
with Robin singing lead,
432
00:36:37,477 --> 00:36:39,812
and everybody
thought Lamplight should be the single.
433
00:36:39,913 --> 00:36:43,716
Robert chose First Of May and,
thinking he was biased towards Barry,
434
00:36:43,817 --> 00:36:47,453
Robin said, ''I've had it.''
He thought it was done on purpose.
435
00:36:47,554 --> 00:36:50,356
And f ollowing that, I think we went through
436
00:36:50,457 --> 00:36:55,194
about two or three years
of being unable to communicate,
437
00:36:55,295 --> 00:36:59,031
being unable to be brothers
or friends or...unable.
438
00:36:59,132 --> 00:37:01,133
We've heard rumors
that the group is splitting up.
439
00:37:01,235 --> 00:37:02,668
Would you like to verify those rumors?
440
00:37:02,769 --> 00:37:06,005
If I were to say that was true,
then I would be the premier of Russia.
441
00:37:06,106 --> 00:37:10,009
Then Robin decided to leave, while we were
doing the Cucumber Castle f ilm.
442
00:37:33,567 --> 00:37:37,703
Then Barry left after that
and I was all of a sudden The Bee Gee.
443
00:37:37,804 --> 00:37:41,774
But it was all part and parcel, that part of it,
we had to go through all that crap
444
00:37:41,875 --> 00:37:44,810
'cause, you must remember,
we'd been together f or so long
445
00:37:44,911 --> 00:37:49,649
by the time we were 19, 20, 21 ,
it's like, ''We need a break.''
446
00:37:49,750 --> 00:37:52,585
We'd been together
since Robin and I were f ive, singing.
447
00:37:52,686 --> 00:37:56,656
I don't think there was actually a design
in the breakup in itself .
448
00:37:56,757 --> 00:38:00,059
We just wandered off and...
It was a crazy period.
449
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,329
We didn't know what we were each doing
unless we read the trades.
450
00:38:03,430 --> 00:38:06,532
We sort of tried to get together,
but every time we tried,
451
00:38:06,633 --> 00:38:08,234
we knew it was the wrong time.
452
00:38:08,335 --> 00:38:11,203
It was inevitable that this would happen,
453
00:38:11,305 --> 00:38:13,372
it was something that was growing anyway.
454
00:38:13,473 --> 00:38:15,341
But being young,
you don't know how to handle it.
455
00:38:15,442 --> 00:38:19,512
We were excited. We were very high on
ourselves, and it was a dream come true.
456
00:38:19,613 --> 00:38:22,682
Yeah. I mean, I had seven Aston martins
457
00:38:22,783 --> 00:38:25,084
and six Rolls-Royces before I was 21 .
458
00:38:25,952 --> 00:38:29,288
I don't know where they are now,
but that's how crazy it was.
459
00:38:29,389 --> 00:38:32,591
The ''f irst-fame'' syndrome, we call it,
when you go through that,
460
00:38:32,693 --> 00:38:34,460
and if you survive it, it's great.
461
00:38:34,561 --> 00:38:38,764
We had the f oresight and strength to say,
''This is stupid, let's get back together.''
462
00:38:38,865 --> 00:38:43,235
The f irst time we got together after the
breakup was Addison Road in Kensington.
463
00:38:43,337 --> 00:38:45,971
How Can You mend A Broken Heart
and Lonely Days.
464
00:38:46,073 --> 00:38:47,707
That, basically, is the story,
465
00:38:47,808 --> 00:38:51,410
because How Can You mend A Broken
Heart really does reflect how we felt.
466
00:38:51,511 --> 00:38:52,745
Yeah.
467
00:40:01,314 --> 00:40:03,015
We had about 15 months apart.
468
00:40:03,116 --> 00:40:07,653
I ended up doing a musical,
but it was a very strange situation.
469
00:40:07,754 --> 00:40:10,222
Barry had left and the group was over.
470
00:40:12,893 --> 00:40:17,930
But what happened is that Robin had called
him and said, ''Let's get together and talk.''
471
00:40:18,031 --> 00:40:19,565
We eventually did.
472
00:40:19,666 --> 00:40:23,002
I remember the time that Robert Stigwood's
company was going public,
473
00:40:23,103 --> 00:40:24,870
and the three of us were in this room,
474
00:40:24,971 --> 00:40:27,506
I had my lawyer, Robin had his lawyer,
Barry had his lawyer,
475
00:40:27,607 --> 00:40:30,242
and all we were talking about
is what we can do together,
476
00:40:30,343 --> 00:40:32,011
when the lawyers were thinking about,
477
00:40:32,112 --> 00:40:36,315
''I represent my client privately
and separately f rom the others.''
478
00:40:36,416 --> 00:40:39,418
And the three of us
were planning our next album.
479
00:40:39,519 --> 00:40:41,921
And no one knew about it, in the room.
480
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,014
It was nervous working together again
481
00:41:09,115 --> 00:41:12,117
and getting used to each other again,
the writing process.
482
00:41:12,219 --> 00:41:14,820
Lonely Days was an instrumental
I was playing on the piano.
483
00:41:14,921 --> 00:41:17,189
Barry and Robin came round,
and we started singing it,
484
00:41:17,290 --> 00:41:21,026
and before we knew it,
the song was taking shape.
485
00:41:55,862 --> 00:42:00,032
So, those f irst times together,
we knew it was inevitable.
486
00:42:00,133 --> 00:42:04,136
Look what we've done in these
few days we've been together.
487
00:42:22,956 --> 00:42:24,823
I felt like we'd never done it before.
488
00:42:24,925 --> 00:42:26,725
We were like new. It was, like, f resh.
489
00:42:26,826 --> 00:42:30,663
The energy that each one had on
expressing what they'd learnt by being apart,
490
00:42:30,764 --> 00:42:32,464
it all came out in that week.
491
00:42:32,566 --> 00:42:35,034
And it was brilliant.
It was a wonderful session, wonderful.
492
00:42:35,135 --> 00:42:37,403
Thank you all very much
and good evening.
493
00:44:20,774 --> 00:44:22,074
How does a song get written?
494
00:44:22,175 --> 00:44:26,545
It's usually one person who will walk
into the studio or the room and say,
495
00:44:26,646 --> 00:44:28,914
''I've got an idea f or a song.''
496
00:44:31,918 --> 00:44:34,987
And any one of us would play that idea,
497
00:44:35,088 --> 00:44:38,157
and if everyone looked
at each other and went,
498
00:44:38,258 --> 00:44:41,160
''OK, this can go somewhere,
this could be something...''
499
00:44:41,261 --> 00:44:43,829
Many times,
Barry will have an idea f or a song,
500
00:44:43,930 --> 00:44:48,000
and I'll have an idea for song,
and we'll put them together and marry them.
501
00:44:48,101 --> 00:44:50,936
- And marry the two songs.
- And it'll become one song.
502
00:44:51,037 --> 00:44:53,872
So, Run To Me
was a f orm of two songs.
503
00:45:13,827 --> 00:45:16,662
So, we would play that kind of game,
that two songs can become one,
504
00:45:16,763 --> 00:45:19,531
and that collaboration is
what creates a great song.
505
00:45:19,632 --> 00:45:23,001
One person writing a song, on their own,
506
00:45:23,103 --> 00:45:25,170
is a tremendously lonely game.
507
00:45:30,577 --> 00:45:32,478
We all become one mind.
508
00:45:32,579 --> 00:45:34,179
That's what we automatically all do.
509
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,181
And we've been doing that f or years.
510
00:45:36,282 --> 00:45:38,684
So I don't know how we do it,
but it just happens that way.
511
00:45:38,785 --> 00:45:41,353
I call it the greatest f orm
of meditation you could ever have,
512
00:45:41,454 --> 00:45:44,223
when the three of us are in the room,
when we're doing the music,
513
00:45:44,324 --> 00:45:47,726
and I'm playing, and we usually write
the lyrics after we write the melody
514
00:45:47,827 --> 00:45:51,196
and we have the mics on
and we just sit there and create.
515
00:45:51,297 --> 00:45:53,832
You're not concentrating
on anything else
516
00:45:53,933 --> 00:45:57,569
but what's happening right now,
and that's a trip on its own.
517
00:45:57,670 --> 00:45:59,505
It's wonderful when you hear it taking shape.
518
00:45:59,606 --> 00:46:03,909
And I may go somewhere, and Barry,
''Yes, yes, go play there, go there.''
519
00:46:04,010 --> 00:46:05,778
And I go, ''Yes, go there.''
520
00:46:05,879 --> 00:46:09,715
We'll wake each other's little instincts up
and the melodies come.
521
00:46:09,816 --> 00:46:15,254
Maurice was either guitar, piano
and some f orm of stimulating sound.
522
00:46:15,355 --> 00:46:19,391
I'm Mr. Fix-It. Still comes from
where I've always been in the middle
523
00:46:19,492 --> 00:46:21,426
of some discrepancy
between Barry and Robin
524
00:46:21,528 --> 00:46:24,496
or if we're gonna make a decision,
''What does maurice think?''
525
00:46:24,597 --> 00:46:27,099
I become the deciding vote, if you like.
526
00:46:29,002 --> 00:46:32,871
After Run To me, we went into a valley,
totally. Our career was in a valley.
527
00:46:32,972 --> 00:46:36,575
No record company wanted us,
management didn't want us, nothing.
528
00:46:36,676 --> 00:46:39,077
At the end of every decade,
there's a tendency
529
00:46:39,179 --> 00:46:42,114
that the business tries to reject artists
from the last decade.
530
00:46:42,215 --> 00:46:44,950
So, you know, you're either
the artist of the '60s,
531
00:46:45,051 --> 00:46:47,719
or an artist of the '70s,
or an artist of the '80s.
532
00:46:47,821 --> 00:46:49,988
And it still goes on now.
533
00:46:50,089 --> 00:46:56,728
And so, we were suddenly out of f avor
by the beginning of the '70s.
534
00:46:56,830 --> 00:46:59,031
You think it's gonna last f orever
and it doesn't.
535
00:46:59,132 --> 00:47:01,667
And that's when the s****
hits the proverbial fan.
536
00:47:01,768 --> 00:47:05,204
Because all of a sudden, you turn
to maybe drinking a bit with your f riends.
537
00:47:05,305 --> 00:47:07,639
''Oh, you'll do it again.''
Then you turn to drugs.
538
00:47:07,740 --> 00:47:11,109
Before you know it, you're on
a collision course with death. That's it.
539
00:47:11,211 --> 00:47:14,913
And to us, we thought,
''Well, maybe that's it.
540
00:47:15,014 --> 00:47:17,516
''maybe that was our career.''
541
00:47:17,617 --> 00:47:20,686
Oh, yeah. I mean your ego
is deflated enormously.
542
00:47:20,787 --> 00:47:24,423
But that was meant to be too.
I mean, it wasn't good stuff. It was OK.
543
00:47:24,524 --> 00:47:26,425
We were trying to be very experimental.
544
00:47:26,526 --> 00:47:29,194
Sly And The Family Stone
were huge with hits and...
545
00:47:29,295 --> 00:47:32,764
It was a different kind of period,
it was like early disco, or something,
546
00:47:32,866 --> 00:47:35,033
there was something going on
that was really strange.
547
00:47:35,134 --> 00:47:36,602
And we just were off the mark.
548
00:47:36,703 --> 00:47:40,839
We were so off the mark we released
an album, To Whom It May Concern,
549
00:47:40,940 --> 00:47:43,642
because we didn't know
who the hell was gonna buy it.
550
00:47:43,743 --> 00:47:47,679
I mean, that's how totally,
''Where are we going?''
551
00:48:12,939 --> 00:48:15,974
We needed to have bigger records
than we were having.
552
00:48:16,075 --> 00:48:18,710
We weren't moving that well at all.
553
00:48:19,512 --> 00:48:21,680
Robert had become acquainted
with Arif Mardin,
554
00:48:21,781 --> 00:48:24,483
who had done some
of the Aretha Franklin early records,
555
00:48:24,584 --> 00:48:26,752
and suggested that we explore those roots,
556
00:48:26,853 --> 00:48:30,389
which is how we ended up
doing mr. Natural with Arif .
557
00:48:34,694 --> 00:48:37,529
Arif was so instrumental
in producing black artists.
558
00:48:37,630 --> 00:48:41,033
He produced a lot of people,
and we wanted that input.
559
00:49:26,713 --> 00:49:29,114
- We always loved black music.
- Yeah.
560
00:49:29,215 --> 00:49:32,784
Always, even in the '60s,
it was just ways of ...
561
00:49:34,220 --> 00:49:37,522
- Sam Cooke and Otis Redding
- Otis Redding, Wilson Picket.
562
00:49:37,623 --> 00:49:40,592
The inf luences had been there,
we just explored them more.
563
00:49:40,693 --> 00:49:44,696
We felt it was a time we needed,
and Arif was the ideal tool.
564
00:49:44,797 --> 00:49:46,264
He encouraged, more so.
565
00:49:46,366 --> 00:49:50,969
That's when, as I said, f or To Whom
It May Concern we had no direction.
566
00:49:51,070 --> 00:49:53,105
Arif went, ''This is the way you go.''
567
00:49:53,206 --> 00:49:55,340
Yes, we'd given up on the psychedelia.
568
00:49:55,441 --> 00:49:59,644
We'd given up on, ''Everyone has to be
like the Beatles in order to succeed.''
569
00:49:59,746 --> 00:50:02,514
We thought we were on the right track,
we thought we were doing the right things.
570
00:50:02,615 --> 00:50:05,384
We were moving into that R&B vein,
571
00:50:05,485 --> 00:50:07,452
but we weren't really succeeding.
572
00:50:07,553 --> 00:50:09,988
mr. Natural was a total disaster,
573
00:50:10,089 --> 00:50:15,127
but it was like a rehearsal f or main Course,
working with Arif f or the f irst time.
574
00:50:15,228 --> 00:50:17,529
Fortunately f or us, Arif said,
575
00:50:17,630 --> 00:50:20,932
''Well, this was a good start,
let's do another album.''
576
00:50:21,034 --> 00:50:25,003
And we didn't expect that, and...
577
00:50:25,104 --> 00:50:28,106
That was the opening
of 461 Ocean Boulevard, isn't it?
578
00:50:28,207 --> 00:50:30,142
And that's when Eric Clapton said,
579
00:50:30,243 --> 00:50:33,011
''I've just done this album called
461 Ocean Boulevard.
580
00:50:33,112 --> 00:50:35,647
''Why don't you go and rent the same house
581
00:50:35,748 --> 00:50:37,783
''and record in America instead of England
582
00:50:37,884 --> 00:50:40,152
''and see what that does f or you spiritually?''
583
00:50:40,253 --> 00:50:44,222
He said, ''It really worked f or me.
I feel like a totally different artist
584
00:50:44,323 --> 00:50:48,026
''having moved away f rom
that whole English syndrome.''
585
00:50:56,269 --> 00:50:59,771
When we got to Miami,
all of a sudden, sunshine.
586
00:50:59,872 --> 00:51:02,974
This is paradise
compared to where we just came f rom.
587
00:51:03,076 --> 00:51:06,511
And we got Arif Mardin because
we wanted Arif after mr. Natural.
588
00:51:06,612 --> 00:51:09,081
When we worked with him
on main Course, he knew us,
589
00:51:09,182 --> 00:51:11,416
and he brought out
the best in every one of us.
590
00:51:11,517 --> 00:51:15,153
He taught me bass I didn't know I could play.
That's how much I admire that man.
591
00:51:15,254 --> 00:51:17,923
He wouldn't play himself . Brilliant pianist.
592
00:51:18,024 --> 00:51:20,625
But he didn't believe
in playing on his own records.
593
00:51:20,726 --> 00:51:24,296
He would come up with these little things,
suggest them to the band...
594
00:51:24,397 --> 00:51:26,364
He was like a little boy, wasn't he?
His enthusiasm.
595
00:51:26,466 --> 00:51:28,667
Working with the band.
596
00:51:28,768 --> 00:51:31,269
Arif knew exactly
where we needed to go.
597
00:51:31,370 --> 00:51:34,206
He taught us everything we know
about production.
598
00:51:34,307 --> 00:51:36,441
He'd been a great teacher, great mentor.
599
00:51:36,542 --> 00:51:41,847
We spent about three or f our weeks writing
about three or four songs that were...
600
00:51:41,948 --> 00:51:43,582
three of which were rejected
601
00:51:43,683 --> 00:51:46,418
and one which was accepted,
which was called Wind Of Change.
602
00:51:46,519 --> 00:51:49,654
When it came to dubbing the bass
on Wind of Change, I came in,
603
00:51:49,755 --> 00:51:53,058
and Arif said ''OK?'' I said, ''Yep.''
So, we started the track
604
00:51:53,159 --> 00:51:56,428
and I did one take,
and he went, ''Wonderful,''
605
00:51:56,529 --> 00:52:00,699
without changing a part, and I said,
''You don't want to change this?''
606
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,902
He said, ''No, that was brilliant. Wonderful.''
607
00:52:04,003 --> 00:52:05,937
And I knew I'd made it in his eyes,
608
00:52:06,038 --> 00:52:08,373
because he never told me
to change anything.
609
00:52:08,474 --> 00:52:12,344
Because of what he taught me, f rom all
the previous tracks I'd played bass on,
610
00:52:12,445 --> 00:52:15,680
I was with him,
I was behind the beat.
611
00:52:15,781 --> 00:52:18,583
He was going, ''Great, great.''
612
00:52:18,684 --> 00:52:22,087
And I was chuffed.
I went home laughing my head off.
613
00:52:22,188 --> 00:52:25,223
I couldn't believe it.
I'd played the way he loved it.
614
00:52:36,402 --> 00:52:38,336
The next thing after Wind Of Change
615
00:52:38,437 --> 00:52:42,107
was Nights On Broadway,
'cause Ahmet said, ''I want more like that.''
616
00:53:44,337 --> 00:53:47,606
And so, Nights On Broadway,
or rather Lights On Broadway,
617
00:53:47,707 --> 00:53:49,307
which is what it was called in the f irst place,
618
00:53:49,408 --> 00:53:51,610
became the second accepted track,
619
00:53:51,711 --> 00:53:53,545
and it just moved on f rom there.
620
00:53:53,646 --> 00:53:57,349
Jive Talkin' happened during
the middle of the sessions
621
00:53:57,450 --> 00:54:00,485
when we were driving home
one night over a bridge.
622
00:54:00,586 --> 00:54:04,889
I just remember going in the car
and hearing this...
623
00:54:04,991 --> 00:54:07,259
every time we crossed this bridge.
624
00:54:13,299 --> 00:54:17,469
And Barry had noticed it
and he was going...
625
00:54:17,570 --> 00:54:20,238
Thinking of the dance.
''You dance with your eyes.''
626
00:54:20,339 --> 00:54:22,974
That's all he had.
And we were going...
627
00:54:25,111 --> 00:54:27,946
At exactly 35 miles an hour,
that's what we got.
628
00:54:46,999 --> 00:54:49,000
We played it to Arif , and he went,
629
00:54:49,101 --> 00:54:51,069
''Do you know what jive talkin' means?''
630
00:54:51,170 --> 00:54:54,606
And we said, ''Well, yeah.
It's, you know, you're dancing.''
631
00:54:54,707 --> 00:54:59,778
He says, ''No.'' I'm putting on this Turkish
accent because this is how he talks.
632
00:54:59,879 --> 00:55:03,548
And he says, ''No.
It's a black expression f or bull****ing''
633
00:55:03,649 --> 00:55:05,317
And we went, ''Oh, really?''
634
00:55:05,418 --> 00:55:09,654
''Jive talkin', you're telling me lies...''
and changed it.
635
00:55:13,159 --> 00:55:17,228
But he gave us the groove, the tempo,
everything. He said, ''This is your groove.''
636
00:55:17,330 --> 00:55:20,365
Because we were English,
we were less self -conscious
637
00:55:20,466 --> 00:55:22,434
about exploring the no-go areas
638
00:55:22,535 --> 00:55:25,537
that a lot of American artists
and groups would have done.
639
00:55:25,638 --> 00:55:27,806
Especially white ones.
They were always saying,
640
00:55:27,907 --> 00:55:30,809
''Don't go in the black area.
You've got to be, you know...''
641
00:55:30,910 --> 00:55:32,777
If you were white, you just stayed out.
642
00:55:32,878 --> 00:55:36,047
People were scared that, if they did,
they would make f ools of themselves.
643
00:55:36,148 --> 00:55:37,982
But we did it because
we were serious about it.
644
00:55:38,084 --> 00:55:41,353
We didn't think that there was
any no-go areas. It was music.
645
00:55:51,997 --> 00:55:54,866
Robert Stigwood
wanted Jive Talkin' as the f irst single
646
00:55:54,967 --> 00:55:57,969
and Jerry Greenberg at Atlantic
and Ahmet Ertegun said,
647
00:55:58,070 --> 00:56:01,005
''We think Nights On Broadway,
because we don't think people
648
00:56:01,107 --> 00:56:04,609
''will actually accept this
f rom the Bee Gees
649
00:56:04,710 --> 00:56:08,012
''because, f irst of all, you haven't
done anything like this before,
650
00:56:08,114 --> 00:56:12,217
''and secondly, it's very black,
it's not something that would be accepted.''
651
00:56:12,318 --> 00:56:15,186
Robert said, ''That's exactly why
I want this to be the f irst single.''
652
00:56:15,287 --> 00:56:18,990
When Jive Talkin' came out,
everybody went, ''Who?''
653
00:56:19,091 --> 00:56:21,993
''The Bee Gees 'Broken Heart' Bee Gees?
Are you kidding?
654
00:56:22,094 --> 00:56:26,731
''You mean, the same group that did...
Whoa.'' Nobody knew.
655
00:56:26,832 --> 00:56:28,333
And that changed our whole career.
656
00:56:28,434 --> 00:56:30,702
And it became a number one record.
657
00:56:30,803 --> 00:56:34,139
And we knew that was the start of the...
658
00:56:34,240 --> 00:56:38,109
our black music inf luences
with Arif Mardin
659
00:56:38,210 --> 00:56:40,912
being expressed to its f ull potential.
660
00:56:41,013 --> 00:56:42,380
We were completing Nights On Broadway,
661
00:56:42,481 --> 00:56:46,317
we'd just done most of the vocal tracks
and all the harmonies and stuff,
662
00:56:46,419 --> 00:56:49,421
and usually,
at the end you have some ad libs
663
00:56:49,522 --> 00:56:52,223
to take us away f rom the original melody
and have some fun.
664
00:56:52,324 --> 00:56:54,159
Arif wanted us to sort of sing,
665
00:56:54,260 --> 00:56:57,595
or try to scream like Paul McCartney
would sometimes scream in f alsetto.
666
00:56:57,696 --> 00:56:59,063
So, Barry said, ''I'll have a go.''
667
00:56:59,165 --> 00:57:03,768
So, he did the ''blaming it alls'' ad lib
on the end of Nights On Broadway.
668
00:57:16,449 --> 00:57:20,351
He screamed, and it's the f irst time I've
heard him scream in tune with the melody.
669
00:57:20,453 --> 00:57:22,921
And in doing so,
I discovered I had a f alsetto voice.
670
00:57:26,525 --> 00:57:30,562
I knew it was back there somewhere,
because we'd tried things like that early on.
671
00:57:30,663 --> 00:57:32,764
And we thought, ''That's brilliant.''
672
00:57:32,865 --> 00:57:35,433
So, after that, actually,
we wrote Fanny Be Tender
673
00:57:35,534 --> 00:57:38,236
'cause we wanted
to do a whole song in f alsetto.
674
00:57:38,337 --> 00:57:40,405
'Cause we loved the Stylistics,
675
00:57:40,506 --> 00:57:43,975
we loved the Spinners, the Delf onics.
676
00:57:44,076 --> 00:57:46,978
They were coming out
with these records like...
677
00:57:47,079 --> 00:57:49,113
They were all f alsetto lead singers.
678
00:57:49,215 --> 00:57:53,451
And that was black, R&B, at the time,
that's what they called it at the time.
679
00:57:53,552 --> 00:57:55,086
We were into all that stuff.
680
00:58:16,976 --> 00:58:19,644
Fanny Be Tender, I think, convinced us
681
00:58:19,745 --> 00:58:22,413
that we were now recording
the kind of music
682
00:58:22,515 --> 00:58:24,415
that was going to take us to the next plateau.
683
00:58:24,517 --> 00:58:28,720
For the first time also, apart from
going onto the Billboard Pop Charts,
684
00:58:28,821 --> 00:58:31,422
we were actually on the black charts as well
685
00:58:31,524 --> 00:58:36,160
where there were no white acts,
and that was telling us something,
686
00:58:36,262 --> 00:58:40,598
that we were in an area
we would never have gone into before.
687
00:58:54,313 --> 00:58:55,914
We just felt tremendously happy.
688
00:58:56,015 --> 00:58:59,284
We were just so knocked out
that we had an audience again,
689
00:58:59,385 --> 00:59:01,953
and to have that success,
'cause even before that
690
00:59:02,054 --> 00:59:04,355
we weren't even looking f or a thing
like a Fever, or anything like that,
691
00:59:04,456 --> 00:59:06,591
we were just making music.
692
00:59:07,259 --> 00:59:09,627
And Children Of The World,
which f ollowed that,
693
00:59:09,728 --> 00:59:13,631
we had You Should Be Dancing, which is
the only obvious dance song we ever wrote,
694
00:59:13,732 --> 00:59:16,267
and Love So Right
were two number ones off that.
695
00:59:16,368 --> 00:59:20,204
They were, like, triple platinum.
We were just coasting along here.
696
00:59:20,306 --> 00:59:22,540
''We're having a ball. This is great.''
697
00:59:22,641 --> 00:59:25,543
We were having a great time,
and it's only till the Fever thing happened,
698
00:59:25,644 --> 00:59:28,279
that's when everything exploded,
699
00:59:28,380 --> 00:59:30,348
when the world just went crazy.
700
00:59:49,435 --> 00:59:50,902
We had a phone call f rom Robert
701
00:59:51,003 --> 00:59:53,504
saying Paramount was making a movie
and he was producing.
702
00:59:53,606 --> 00:59:56,808
He told us it was about this guy who works
in a paint shop in Brooklyn,
703
00:59:56,909 --> 01:00:00,078
he blows his wages every Saturday night
in a club and wins a dance competition.
704
01:00:00,179 --> 01:00:03,581
We thought, ''Nice one, Rob.''
705
01:00:04,617 --> 01:00:07,952
John Travolta was dancing in the f ilm
to You Should Be Dancing,
706
01:00:08,053 --> 01:00:11,322
which had been a hit off
Children Of The World, the previous album.
707
01:00:11,423 --> 01:00:14,192
And Robert wanted to know
if we had anything,
708
01:00:14,293 --> 01:00:16,894
or if we could write more songs f or the f ilm.
709
01:00:16,996 --> 01:00:19,130
We went OK, so we had Staying Alive,
710
01:00:19,231 --> 01:00:22,000
How Deep Is Your Love,
and If I Can't Have You,
711
01:00:22,101 --> 01:00:23,968
were the f irst three ones that he heard.
712
01:00:24,069 --> 01:00:26,871
And he said, ''Great, this is f antastic.''
713
01:00:26,972 --> 01:00:31,209
And to us, this was most likely
to be our new album.
714
01:00:31,310 --> 01:00:34,946
So he came back about a month later
and asked for some more.
715
01:00:35,047 --> 01:00:37,048
''Our album's gone now.''
716
01:00:37,149 --> 01:00:39,751
So we ended up with about eight
of our songs in the f ilm.
717
01:00:39,852 --> 01:00:41,386
But in those days, you thought,
718
01:00:41,487 --> 01:00:44,322
''God, you'd pay people
to put your songs in a f ilm.
719
01:00:44,423 --> 01:00:46,157
''It's a great promotion.''
720
01:00:46,258 --> 01:00:51,095
There was a suggestion that...Stayin' Alive
should be called Saturday Night,
721
01:00:51,196 --> 01:00:53,498
and Robert said,
''No, you should keep it.''
722
01:00:53,599 --> 01:00:56,868
''Stayin' Alive? It's like buried alive.''
No, the opposite.
723
01:00:56,969 --> 01:00:58,436
It's actually staying alive.
724
01:00:58,537 --> 01:01:00,371
And Robert dug his heels in,
725
01:01:00,472 --> 01:01:03,441
because they thought it was
a very sophisticated title f or a popular song,
726
01:01:03,542 --> 01:01:07,011
but we wouldn't budge, because there are
so many songs called Saturday Night.
727
01:01:07,112 --> 01:01:10,214
But we did have a song called Night Fever,
and the compromise was
728
01:01:10,315 --> 01:01:14,185
that we suggested the title of the f ilm
should be Saturday Night Fever,
729
01:01:14,286 --> 01:01:18,222
but we would have the song Night Fever
on the album without Saturday on it.
730
01:02:03,402 --> 01:02:05,670
So we stayed on the path
that we'd always stayed on,
731
01:02:05,771 --> 01:02:10,541
and that is, ''Let's just make
what we believe is a great record.''
732
01:02:10,642 --> 01:02:14,378
And we continued with that
f or about six or seven songs,
733
01:02:14,947 --> 01:02:18,850
never really knowing whether or not
they were going to be used in the movie.
734
01:02:18,951 --> 01:02:22,720
We didn't go near the f ilm. The only time
we went near the f ilm was the premiere
735
01:02:22,821 --> 01:02:25,523
where we stood
at the back of the theatre listening,
736
01:02:25,624 --> 01:02:27,992
and at least being able to say to Robert,
737
01:02:28,093 --> 01:02:30,862
''It's wonderful, but when you're in a club,
738
01:02:30,963 --> 01:02:33,631
''you can't hear people dancing.''
739
01:02:33,732 --> 01:02:36,067
- That's right.
- The music was too soft.
740
01:02:36,168 --> 01:02:39,470
And if you're in a club,
you don't hear people going like...
741
01:02:39,571 --> 01:02:42,940
- You don't hear their feet.
- You don't hear all this stuff.
742
01:02:43,041 --> 01:02:45,977
Robert got the point,
pumped the music up,
743
01:02:46,078 --> 01:02:49,080
took out all the noises of the feet,
and that's what you have now.
744
01:03:45,838 --> 01:03:48,506
Being in miami,
you're in a sort of goldf ish bowl.
745
01:03:48,607 --> 01:03:51,008
You don't see much
of what's going on out there.
746
01:03:51,109 --> 01:03:53,311
When we were here
writing f or the Spirits album,
747
01:03:53,412 --> 01:03:57,915
we didn't think about what Fever was doing,
we didn't really know that much.
748
01:03:58,016 --> 01:04:01,519
We were locked away f or about a month
before How Deep Is Your Love came out,
749
01:04:01,620 --> 01:04:04,655
and that was a number one
before the f ilm came out.
750
01:04:04,756 --> 01:04:07,191
I remember everyone saying,
''What a great R&B ballad.''
751
01:04:07,292 --> 01:04:09,827
And as soon as the film came out
they said, ''What a great disco ballad.''
752
01:04:09,928 --> 01:04:11,596
It was so opposite, it was so f unny.
753
01:04:11,697 --> 01:04:14,465
The one thing that still affects us
is How Deep Is Your Love.
754
01:04:14,566 --> 01:04:17,301
No matter how it's sung,
it's still a beautiful song.
755
01:04:17,402 --> 01:04:19,770
So it wasn't all what you would call
dance music.
756
01:04:19,872 --> 01:04:23,007
But then of course we became
the biggest disco band around,
757
01:04:23,108 --> 01:04:24,642
which totally amazed us,
758
01:04:24,743 --> 01:04:28,679
because we always thought KC
was the disco thing, and Donna Summer.
759
01:04:28,780 --> 01:04:32,817
It was all great f un stuff, it was party music,
but we never regarded ourselves as that.
760
01:04:32,918 --> 01:04:35,620
All I know is when
we were recording these songs,
761
01:04:35,721 --> 01:04:39,190
we didn't think about dancing,
we were just thinking about songs.
762
01:04:39,291 --> 01:04:42,159
We didn't even know
the word disco music existed.
763
01:04:42,261 --> 01:04:45,296
It was coined after the film,
because of the f ilm's success.
764
01:04:45,397 --> 01:04:47,798
None of us expected
the success that Fever had.
765
01:04:47,900 --> 01:04:50,234
And the album started doing
a million a week.
766
01:04:50,335 --> 01:04:51,769
This was pretty shocking f or us.
767
01:04:51,870 --> 01:04:54,505
We couldn't even look at those numbers,
we couldn't understand it.
768
01:04:54,606 --> 01:04:57,441
Such a phenomenon,
other record companies were printing it,
769
01:04:57,542 --> 01:05:00,044
our record company
couldn't keep up the pace.
770
01:05:09,655 --> 01:05:13,090
It was an incredible feeling,
it was like being in the eye of a storm.
771
01:05:13,191 --> 01:05:16,260
You didn't have a real sense
of what was going on around you.
772
01:05:16,361 --> 01:05:21,032
You couldn't answer your phone and you
had people climbing over your walls.
773
01:05:21,133 --> 01:05:25,202
So, it was extremely crazy
and something we weren't used to
774
01:05:25,304 --> 01:05:28,873
because we'd never experienced
that kind of f ame or good f ortune.
775
01:05:28,974 --> 01:05:31,442
It actually has affected, in many ways,
776
01:05:31,543 --> 01:05:34,512
the culture in a very
sort of subconscious way
777
01:05:34,613 --> 01:05:36,580
that very few vehicles have.
778
01:05:36,682 --> 01:05:39,250
And that's an amazing thing
is it still gets played,
779
01:05:39,351 --> 01:05:42,153
and we don't even understand that.
780
01:05:42,254 --> 01:05:44,622
We just... we're bewildered by it.
781
01:05:44,723 --> 01:05:47,792
There's something magical
about when something happens,
782
01:05:47,893 --> 01:05:49,660
you just don't know where this is,
783
01:05:49,761 --> 01:05:54,498
where this captures the imagination
of millions of people at the same time.
784
01:05:54,599 --> 01:05:57,468
It goes beyond being just a hit album.
785
01:06:08,180 --> 01:06:10,848
Disco is a bad word
786
01:06:10,949 --> 01:06:16,320
if you're not the group
that disco is built around.
787
01:06:16,421 --> 01:06:19,657
And we're the group
that disco was built around.
788
01:06:19,758 --> 01:06:24,028
And so, based on that,
we're very, very happy with the word disco.
789
01:06:24,129 --> 01:06:25,062
Absolutely.
790
01:06:25,163 --> 01:06:29,467
It was an amazing experience
in the recording industry.
791
01:06:29,568 --> 01:06:35,673
There was no radio station that wasn't
playing back-to-back Gibb brothers songs.
792
01:06:35,774 --> 01:06:38,843
And of course, the record business
was pretty angry
793
01:06:38,944 --> 01:06:41,178
'cause they couldn't get records
on the playlist.
794
01:06:41,279 --> 01:06:44,348
It was number one on the Billboard Chart
for six months unbroken.
795
01:06:44,449 --> 01:06:47,018
Fever did around 30 to 35 million.
796
01:06:47,119 --> 01:06:49,487
Thriller did approximately 50 million
797
01:06:49,588 --> 01:06:52,123
and we're quite happy
to be second to michael
798
01:06:52,224 --> 01:06:55,259
and we've had a lot of giggles about that.
799
01:07:03,969 --> 01:07:06,837
Ladies and gentleman, our brother Andy!
800
01:07:16,748 --> 01:07:19,784
The door was always open f or Andy.
It was not like ever closed off.
801
01:07:19,885 --> 01:07:23,687
Andy wanted to be one of us,
always wanted to be part of us,
802
01:07:23,789 --> 01:07:27,058
and the difference in the age
was quite radical.
803
01:07:27,159 --> 01:07:28,793
So, it never quite worked out.
804
01:07:28,894 --> 01:07:34,065
As time went on, Andy watching,
listening, witnessing what we were doing,
805
01:07:34,166 --> 01:07:38,002
began to feel this was something
he could do too as an individual.
806
01:07:38,103 --> 01:07:42,239
And that's really how it came about.
The f irst time I ever saw Andy perform
807
01:07:42,340 --> 01:07:45,309
in the way that we had performed
was onstage in Ibiza.
808
01:07:45,410 --> 01:07:49,747
We were living in Ibiza at the time
and f requenting a certain club,
809
01:07:49,848 --> 01:07:52,416
and Andy would get up
on stage and sing.
810
01:07:52,517 --> 01:07:54,952
And we'd also strum a lot at home
811
01:07:55,053 --> 01:07:58,089
and sing old mills Brothers songs
and all that stuff.
812
01:07:58,190 --> 01:08:02,560
And I began to realize that Andy was doing
what the three of us were doing.
813
01:08:02,661 --> 01:08:08,833
And realizing that herein is another
young artist waiting to come out.
814
01:08:08,934 --> 01:08:10,768
Any resemblance between this next fella
815
01:08:10,869 --> 01:08:14,138
and the Bee Gees is purely intentional -
it's their younger brother Andy.
816
01:08:14,239 --> 01:08:17,208
Andy Gibb and his debut single release,
already a hit in America,
817
01:08:17,309 --> 01:08:20,044
called I Just Wanna Be Your Everything.
818
01:09:23,875 --> 01:09:26,844
We were like twins. His voice was
very much like mine. It was uncanny.
819
01:09:26,945 --> 01:09:29,146
We had almost the same kind of voice.
820
01:09:29,247 --> 01:09:32,983
Robin's voice, much higher than mine
or Andy's, but we were very much alike.
821
01:09:33,084 --> 01:09:36,353
We even had the same birthmarks,
which we could never f igure out.
822
01:09:36,454 --> 01:09:39,523
We were alike in so many ways,
it was unbelievable.
823
01:09:39,624 --> 01:09:41,692
We were the only two brothers
who loved tennis,
824
01:09:41,793 --> 01:09:44,828
and we shared all the same ideals,
all the same opinions about things.
825
01:09:44,930 --> 01:09:46,830
We never differed on anything.
826
01:10:04,216 --> 01:10:06,750
I made sure Robert heard
what Andy had been doing.
827
01:10:06,851 --> 01:10:09,687
Andy invited Robert and I to Bermuda.
828
01:10:09,788 --> 01:10:12,089
We'd convinced Andy
to get together with me
829
01:10:12,190 --> 01:10:14,291
to see if we could come up
with something.
830
01:10:14,392 --> 01:10:17,127
The f irst thing was
I Just Want To Be Your Everything,
831
01:10:17,229 --> 01:10:19,096
the second was
Thicker Than Water,
832
01:10:19,197 --> 01:10:23,734
and the third was something all f our of us
wrote together called Shadow Dancing.
833
01:10:33,345 --> 01:10:35,713
He started writing more
and he was getting better.
834
01:10:35,814 --> 01:10:39,817
He was doing very well in terms of
number ones and consecutive singles.
835
01:10:39,918 --> 01:10:42,920
If it was an artist today,
it would be loud and proud.
836
01:11:01,006 --> 01:11:03,941
Andy had great strife in life,
not unlike maurice's.
837
01:11:04,042 --> 01:11:07,378
And perhaps, perhaps not,
that's what ended his life.
838
01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:09,413
But with the drugs and the cocaine abuse
839
01:11:09,514 --> 01:11:12,149
that he had done in LA
and stuff over his young life,
840
01:11:12,250 --> 01:11:15,085
he had been involved
with a lot of people who were doing drugs.
841
01:11:15,186 --> 01:11:16,920
So, about six months before he died,
842
01:11:17,022 --> 01:11:18,722
he went back to England
to stay at Robin's house.
843
01:11:18,823 --> 01:11:20,658
Then we'd heard he was hitting
the liquor store,
844
01:11:20,759 --> 01:11:25,362
and he did it f or 48 hours, I believe, he was
drinking, when he was taken into hospital.
845
01:11:25,463 --> 01:11:28,899
The day before was his 30th birthday.
I called to wish him happy birthday
846
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,969
and Robin said ''He can't come
to the phone, he's out of his skull.''
847
01:11:32,070 --> 01:11:34,605
And I said, ''Oh, well, tell him to sod off.
848
01:11:34,706 --> 01:11:38,142
''Go away.'' And I put the phone down,
and I got very angry.
849
01:11:38,243 --> 01:11:40,878
And I thought, ''When will he learn?''
850
01:11:46,518 --> 01:11:50,387
And it was three days after that.
Ken, who works f or Robin,
851
01:11:50,488 --> 01:11:53,157
called us about six in the morning,
seven in the morning,
852
01:11:53,258 --> 01:11:57,394
and said that Andy had passed away,
and I just dropped the phone.
853
01:12:09,708 --> 01:12:12,643
The last thing that happened between me
and Andy was an argument,
854
01:12:12,744 --> 01:12:15,846
which is devastating for me,
because I have to live with that all my life.
855
01:12:15,947 --> 01:12:17,915
There was a phone call
between him and me.
856
01:12:18,016 --> 01:12:21,719
I was saying, ''You've got
to get your act together, this is no good.''
857
01:12:21,820 --> 01:12:25,089
Instead of being gentle about it,
I was angry,
858
01:12:25,190 --> 01:12:27,891
because someone
had said to me at some point,
859
01:12:27,992 --> 01:12:29,727
''Tough love is the answer.''
860
01:12:29,828 --> 01:12:33,163
So for me it wasn't, because
that was the last conversation we had.
861
01:12:33,264 --> 01:12:34,998
That's my regret, that's what I live with.
862
01:12:35,100 --> 01:12:36,967
We approached him
to be a Bee Gee,
863
01:12:37,068 --> 01:12:39,236
we would've loved him
to have been a Bee Gee.
864
01:12:39,337 --> 01:12:41,472
I think if he had've been,
865
01:12:41,573 --> 01:12:45,909
he may still be with us,
but then, we don't know.
866
01:12:46,010 --> 01:12:49,113
michael Jackson, f or instance,
I think if people had said
867
01:12:49,214 --> 01:12:51,582
all the nice things they did
on the day he died,
868
01:12:51,683 --> 01:12:54,284
when he was alive,
he may still have been alive.
869
01:12:54,386 --> 01:12:58,422
That's just the irony, but some people
need to hear it when they're alive.
870
01:13:05,096 --> 01:13:07,197
We had to go in the studio
the week after.
871
01:13:07,298 --> 01:13:11,335
We thought, maybe if we got back to work
we can get re-centered, or something.
872
01:13:11,436 --> 01:13:13,570
And I had to...
873
01:13:15,473 --> 01:13:18,876
I was playing the strings,
and it was very beautif ul.
874
01:13:18,977 --> 01:13:22,613
Barry and Robin just started crying,
and I just started crying. I said, ''I can't play.''
875
01:13:22,714 --> 01:13:25,482
We went home, and about
a month later we came back in
876
01:13:25,583 --> 01:13:29,219
and then we did
Wish You Were Here f or Andy.
877
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:31,989
And that was difficult to sing,
very difficult,
878
01:13:32,090 --> 01:13:34,458
but we wanted to sing it,
we wanted to do it.
879
01:13:34,559 --> 01:13:38,095
But there was such a hauntingness on
the sound I was getting on the keyboards,
880
01:13:38,196 --> 01:13:39,696
it was so pretty.
881
01:13:39,798 --> 01:13:43,133
And I was just playing these chords
that just went into beautif ul melodies
882
01:13:43,234 --> 01:13:47,504
and Barry and Robin just...
''maybe next week,'' and we left.
883
01:14:00,652 --> 01:14:02,119
- No.
- Hang on.
884
01:14:02,220 --> 01:14:04,955
- It's too slow.
- The way we rehearsed it last night.
885
01:14:05,056 --> 01:14:06,857
We'll go straight again.
886
01:14:20,738 --> 01:14:22,639
- Go on, now.
- Go on, now.
887
01:14:25,410 --> 01:14:27,311
- No, hold it. Hold it.
- One more.
888
01:14:27,412 --> 01:14:30,180
It would be nice if we could f ind
a bigger sound f or that solo.
889
01:14:30,281 --> 01:14:32,549
- Great.
- Bigger, rounder. All right.
890
01:14:33,885 --> 01:14:36,320
Yeah, just like that, yeah, beautiful.
891
01:14:36,421 --> 01:14:38,355
Let's do it again,
second half of the chorus,
892
01:14:38,456 --> 01:14:40,691
but bring that sound in, that's great.
893
01:14:40,792 --> 01:14:44,928
Yeah. OK.
One, two, three, f our...
894
01:14:50,802 --> 01:14:54,972
When somebody stops singing something
really interesting, as soon as he stops,
895
01:14:55,073 --> 01:14:58,041
an instrument takes over doing something
that's equally interesting.
896
01:14:58,142 --> 01:15:00,143
When that instrument stops
and the voice comes back,
897
01:15:00,245 --> 01:15:03,881
the voice has to be equally interesting
as the instrumental before it.
898
01:15:03,982 --> 01:15:08,218
So, anywhere there's a space,
you make an interesting situation happen.
899
01:15:16,294 --> 01:15:20,097
When we were doing Tragedy, f or instance,
we wanted the sound of an explosion
900
01:15:20,198 --> 01:15:23,033
to come at a certain point,
to accentuate the track.
901
01:15:23,134 --> 01:15:27,170
So we all gathered in the control booth,
and listened to the track back.
902
01:15:27,272 --> 01:15:30,274
- It might work.
- Now, listen.
903
01:15:32,877 --> 01:15:35,012
- Right in that slot there.
- An explosion.
904
01:15:36,714 --> 01:15:39,016
- Perhaps a little earlier.
- You will f ind it?
905
01:15:39,117 --> 01:15:42,219
- That's the place you always sang it.
- What might work...
906
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:46,390
Yeah, just like I did then,
just go to the mic and go...
907
01:15:46,491 --> 01:15:49,960
- maybe we can turn it into an explosion.
- Let's try overloading it.
908
01:15:50,061 --> 01:15:53,196
Try it f irst, just so we find the place,
see if you can f ind that beat.
909
01:15:53,298 --> 01:15:55,899
- What about a real explosion?
- The air f orce base?
910
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:59,570
- Where do we find one?
- max has got some dynamite in his office.
911
01:15:59,671 --> 01:16:02,573
- Let's go.
- Let me give it a go...
912
01:16:02,674 --> 01:16:05,242
- before we go to get the dynamite.
- OK.
913
01:16:05,343 --> 01:16:08,245
- This will be interesting.
- Hope everything comes out all right.
914
01:16:08,346 --> 01:16:12,316
- See if he f inds it.
- Yeah. He's got to get it in the right spot.
915
01:16:12,417 --> 01:16:15,519
Feed me some track. Let's give it a shot.
916
01:16:19,090 --> 01:16:20,924
Sorry about that.
917
01:16:29,667 --> 01:16:34,638
I think... Barry, loosen your shirt.
918
01:16:35,239 --> 01:16:36,239
It was a prank.
919
01:16:36,341 --> 01:16:39,743
maybe you should just close your eyes
and really concentrate on the meter.
920
01:16:39,844 --> 01:16:41,712
- I'll be counting.
- OK. I'll be counting.
921
01:16:41,813 --> 01:16:43,814
I'll be counting!
922
01:16:54,626 --> 01:16:56,760
- Yeah, that was it.
- Yeah.
923
01:16:56,861 --> 01:16:58,895
- Thank you. Great.
- Fabulous.
924
01:16:58,997 --> 01:17:01,264
That was a hair early
but I think when we're all together...
925
01:17:01,366 --> 01:17:04,301
- Let's hear it back.
- It's gonna work with three of them together,
926
01:17:04,402 --> 01:17:08,238
and maybe you could do something
soundwise with them
927
01:17:08,339 --> 01:17:11,908
- ..that's gonna make them work as well.
- Shut up and get in here.
928
01:17:12,510 --> 01:17:15,545
Where was I? Yeah...
You know that guy...
929
01:17:15,647 --> 01:17:18,181
- Let's hear it back.
- You told me about him.
930
01:17:18,282 --> 01:17:22,486
Was he still the same guy
as he was before? Really?
931
01:17:30,061 --> 01:17:33,363
- There you go. Fantastic.
- Very nice. Very nice.
932
01:18:04,996 --> 01:18:07,664
In retrospect, we could've
actually waited another year or so
933
01:18:07,765 --> 01:18:10,000
before Spirits came out
because it was...
934
01:18:10,101 --> 01:18:13,804
Saturday Night Fever was still in the top ten
even when we brought Spirits out.
935
01:18:13,905 --> 01:18:16,707
Well, that was the ''30-Ton Tour'', I call it.
936
01:18:16,808 --> 01:18:18,208
A lot of gear.
937
01:18:18,309 --> 01:18:21,845
We had, like, six semi-trailers,
and we had the 707 plane.
938
01:18:21,946 --> 01:18:25,882
It was huge. I mean,
Dodger Stadium, places like that.
939
01:18:25,983 --> 01:18:27,851
We used to dream of this.
940
01:18:27,952 --> 01:18:30,921
Having people in the audience
like Barbra Streisand
941
01:18:31,022 --> 01:18:32,956
watching your show and loving it.
942
01:18:33,057 --> 01:18:36,059
I mean, these are f antasies.
These are all dreams.
943
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:39,129
And to have a 707,
black with red bottom
944
01:18:39,230 --> 01:18:41,498
and our three heads
on the tail and all this.
945
01:18:41,599 --> 01:18:43,567
You're going, ''Whoa!''
946
01:18:43,668 --> 01:18:46,002
Even getting bomb threats,
it was great,
947
01:18:46,104 --> 01:18:49,372
because if you weren't important
they wouldn't bomb you.
948
01:19:37,388 --> 01:19:39,723
It was a great tour
and Andyjoined us on that tour
949
01:19:39,824 --> 01:19:41,625
in a few shows, even John Travolta.
950
01:19:41,893 --> 01:19:43,960
It was just a f abulous experience.
951
01:19:44,061 --> 01:19:46,263
To go on stage and see the audience...
952
01:19:46,364 --> 01:19:49,966
'Cause I love... That's the only way you can
say thank you, really, by going on stage live,
953
01:19:50,067 --> 01:19:51,601
f or putting you there.
954
01:19:51,702 --> 01:19:55,572
That was our way of thanking people
because that's the only way you can do it.
955
01:19:55,673 --> 01:19:58,708
Because if it wasn't f or the audience,
we wouldn't have been up there.
956
01:20:04,248 --> 01:20:07,150
The 50-city tour that we did f or Spirits
957
01:20:07,251 --> 01:20:10,153
was really the beginning
of maurice's alcohol problems...
958
01:20:10,254 --> 01:20:12,756
But, you see, I was always very protected.
959
01:20:12,857 --> 01:20:15,292
I didn't get all the arrests
that people would have got arrested,
960
01:20:15,393 --> 01:20:17,794
'cause I was always protected
by people looking after me, so...
961
01:20:17,895 --> 01:20:21,331
''Oh, he's just having a good time.''
And they'd take me up to my room.
962
01:20:21,432 --> 01:20:24,601
I wouldn't worry about getting to bed,
because they would take me to bed.
963
01:20:24,702 --> 01:20:28,471
So we had security and people
looking after us and roadies and things...
964
01:20:28,573 --> 01:20:33,009
Saved me from a lot of driving and
speeding f ines and drunk-driving tickets.
965
01:20:33,110 --> 01:20:35,245
The only time I got the real f irst one
was in the Isle of Man
966
01:20:35,346 --> 01:20:37,013
because I was the only guy
in a blue Rolls-Royce
967
01:20:37,114 --> 01:20:39,316
driving around the Isle of man drunk.
968
01:20:39,417 --> 01:20:41,618
I sort of stuck out like a sore thumb.
969
01:20:41,719 --> 01:20:44,120
It was more of a question of denial.
970
01:20:44,222 --> 01:20:48,859
It was more, ''Let's keep writing,
moe will be OK.''
971
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:51,561
And the reason
that the Streisand Guilty album
972
01:20:51,662 --> 01:20:54,531
doesn't really involve maurice
on more than one song,
973
01:20:54,632 --> 01:20:57,067
which is Guilty,
was because at that very point,
974
01:20:57,168 --> 01:21:01,338
maurice had reached the razor's edge,
he really needed to be in rehab.
975
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:06,309
And so this was really the whole f amily
976
01:21:06,410 --> 01:21:08,445
coming to the same conclusion.
977
01:21:08,546 --> 01:21:11,448
Robin and I
conf ronting maurice at his home,
978
01:21:11,549 --> 01:21:13,984
with Yvonne, his wife,
979
01:21:14,085 --> 01:21:17,888
basically having to lay down a law
which we did not want to lay down,
980
01:21:17,989 --> 01:21:22,859
which was, ''moe, it ends now,
or it ends forever.''
981
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:28,098
And at that point moe went into rehab
and took the step.
982
01:21:28,199 --> 01:21:32,802
And Robin and I waited f or about six months
f or him to come back around.
983
01:21:32,904 --> 01:21:34,938
Then we went back
in the studio together
984
01:21:35,039 --> 01:21:37,073
and carried on as we had before.
985
01:21:45,182 --> 01:21:46,583
We weren't f unctioning
as a group in the '80s.
986
01:21:46,684 --> 01:21:48,184
We were concentrating on songwriting.
987
01:21:48,286 --> 01:21:51,454
The whole ''It's time to kill Fever,
it's time to kill disco'' period came in,
988
01:21:51,555 --> 01:21:53,290
so we just sort of took a back seat.
989
01:21:58,930 --> 01:22:01,932
The saturation point was ridiculous.
That's why we had to sit back,
990
01:22:02,033 --> 01:22:05,168
and produce other people
and write f or other people.
991
01:22:05,269 --> 01:22:08,238
When we heard they were having
''Bee Gee-free weekends'' in Chicago
992
01:22:08,339 --> 01:22:11,708
and places like that,
it was scary stuff.
993
01:22:11,809 --> 01:22:15,445
We thought, ''We'd better take the
Bee Gees on the back burner f or a while
994
01:22:15,546 --> 01:22:18,281
''until this dies down or something.''
995
01:22:18,382 --> 01:22:20,750
So we couldn't do anything
as the Bee Gees at all.
996
01:22:20,851 --> 01:22:23,086
We didn't make an album till '87.
997
01:22:23,187 --> 01:22:27,123
We'd done so much in the studio,
over so few years
998
01:22:27,224 --> 01:22:30,694
that I think it all caught up with us.
999
01:22:32,263 --> 01:22:36,866
Personally, I thought, ''This will give us
a chance to write for other artists.''
1000
01:22:36,968 --> 01:22:38,068
We got offered Barbra.
1001
01:22:38,169 --> 01:22:42,439
I called Neil Diamond and I said,
''What's Barbra like to work with?''
1002
01:22:42,540 --> 01:22:44,941
He said, ''She's f antastic, just go for it.''
1003
01:22:59,123 --> 01:23:01,458
I remember me and Barry
writing in his bedroom.
1004
01:23:01,559 --> 01:23:04,961
We'd do a song each day
and then the f ollowing week
1005
01:23:05,062 --> 01:23:08,665
we'd do the lyrics to the respective song
that we'd written.
1006
01:23:08,766 --> 01:23:12,635
And we sent the seven songs that we'd
f inished at that point to Barbra Streisand.
1007
01:23:12,737 --> 01:23:14,971
We had an immediate yes,
she wanted to start right away.
1008
01:23:15,072 --> 01:23:16,906
So that was a very enjoyable experience.
1009
01:23:17,008 --> 01:23:19,175
From then, it was
like Dionne Warwick's album,
1010
01:23:19,276 --> 01:23:22,112
Kenny Rogers and Dolly,
we all worked together and wrote.
1011
01:23:22,213 --> 01:23:25,849
I did solo stuff with Robin, which was great.
So everybody was doing something.
1012
01:23:25,950 --> 01:23:28,685
We were all sort of scattered at that point.
1013
01:23:28,786 --> 01:23:30,487
We all wanted some time away.
1014
01:23:30,588 --> 01:23:34,324
Robin wanted to live
in New York f or a little bit,
1015
01:23:34,425 --> 01:23:36,659
maurice was having back surgery,
1016
01:23:36,761 --> 01:23:40,964
and all of these opportunities opened up,
we had nothing else to do.
1017
01:23:41,065 --> 01:23:44,167
That led to the Diana Ross album
Chain Reaction
1018
01:23:44,268 --> 01:23:47,904
and the Kenny Rogers album with
Dolly Parton and Islands In The Stream.
1019
01:24:05,156 --> 01:24:08,091
Islands In The Stream
started out as a soul song.
1020
01:24:08,192 --> 01:24:11,561
We came up with Islands In The Stream
in our writing room upstairs.
1021
01:24:11,662 --> 01:24:14,330
We all looked at each other,
we knew we had a monster song,
1022
01:24:14,432 --> 01:24:17,901
we just didn't know
who was going to record it...
1023
01:24:21,272 --> 01:24:24,274
We viewed it as an R&B song
and not a country song.
1024
01:24:24,375 --> 01:24:26,309
And in the end it just came to show
1025
01:24:26,410 --> 01:24:29,746
that those two types of music
are very close together.
1026
01:24:29,847 --> 01:24:32,816
And Islands In The Stream
became a country song.
1027
01:24:32,917 --> 01:24:37,387
Really, we're talking about two careers
here, composers and artists.
1028
01:24:37,488 --> 01:24:43,760
And the two go together,
but then they're separate as well.
1029
01:24:43,861 --> 01:24:47,931
They are both very, very meaningf ul
to us in their own way.
1030
01:24:48,032 --> 01:24:51,835
We see ourselves as composers f irst
and artists second because we...
1031
01:24:51,936 --> 01:24:55,405
You can't have
the second without the f irst.
1032
01:24:55,506 --> 01:24:57,907
We've always enjoyed
writing f or other people.
1033
01:24:58,008 --> 01:25:01,377
The greatest thing
about being a writer, a songwriter,
1034
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:05,148
is when you write a song with
someone in mind that you really love,
1035
01:25:05,249 --> 01:25:09,285
and then that person ends up singing it,
there's no reward like it.
1036
01:25:09,820 --> 01:25:13,156
We wrote a song f or Celine Dion,
called Immortality,
1037
01:25:13,257 --> 01:25:15,358
she inspired the song,
she inspires us,
1038
01:25:15,459 --> 01:25:18,061
probably the f inest
female pop singer in the world.
1039
01:25:18,162 --> 01:25:21,397
It was a dream that she might
sing one of our songs one day.
1040
01:25:21,499 --> 01:25:23,366
And the dream came true.
1041
01:25:33,911 --> 01:25:36,913
We wrote Immortality f or
the Saturday Night Fever musical
1042
01:25:37,014 --> 01:25:38,915
and they wanted one big song at the end,
1043
01:25:39,016 --> 01:25:43,253
so the guy could come out...
do the whole thing.
1044
01:25:43,354 --> 01:25:45,321
There was a guy that sang it in the show,
1045
01:25:45,422 --> 01:25:48,124
but we wrote it with Celine totally in mind.
1046
01:26:02,773 --> 01:26:06,709
When we write f or girls, Barry sings it
in f alsetto, because that's the girls' range,
1047
01:26:06,810 --> 01:26:10,547
so when they play the demo they
can sing along and it'll be in their range.
1048
01:26:15,786 --> 01:26:18,288
When you hear the demo,
you can hear Celine.
1049
01:26:18,389 --> 01:26:21,658
Then she said she wanted
to record it. Blew me away.
1050
01:26:28,132 --> 01:26:31,034
When we f irst heard Celine sing it,
we burst into tears.
1051
01:26:31,135 --> 01:26:33,670
- Tissues were going everywhere.
- It just destroyed us.
1052
01:26:33,771 --> 01:26:37,173
And that's how we left the building,
completely in tears,
1053
01:26:37,274 --> 01:26:39,542
that this girl had done this with this song.
1054
01:29:28,278 --> 01:29:30,847
I always keep
a little Dictaphone next to the bed.
1055
01:29:30,948 --> 01:29:35,451
About four in the morning,
I woke up with this melody which was...
1056
01:29:41,392 --> 01:29:44,060
And that was it.
I thought, ''If I lose this...
1057
01:29:46,263 --> 01:29:50,166
''it'll be gone f orever,'' because
the next day it's gone, it's just gone.
1058
01:29:50,267 --> 01:29:52,935
So I checked the machine,
there was no cassette in it.
1059
01:29:53,036 --> 01:29:54,404
It's always the same.
1060
01:29:54,505 --> 01:29:57,640
So I was running round the house
trying to find a cassette.
1061
01:29:57,741 --> 01:30:03,413
I f ound a cassette, got whatever I could
down, and played it to Robin the next day.
1062
01:30:15,726 --> 01:30:19,262
It was f unny. Unf ortunately
the record was never released here.
1063
01:30:19,363 --> 01:30:21,497
You Win Again, when it came out in 1987,
1064
01:30:21,598 --> 01:30:23,699
we'd just signed with Warners
f or a new deal
1065
01:30:23,801 --> 01:30:27,203
and this was the f irst record
and everybody went gung ho on it.
1066
01:30:27,304 --> 01:30:28,938
And really did well.
1067
01:30:29,039 --> 01:30:31,674
And I remember
we had these stomps put on it.
1068
01:30:31,775 --> 01:30:35,111
It was something in my studio,
my garage that we'd come up with
1069
01:30:35,212 --> 01:30:37,246
and got it all together,
there's no drums on there at all,
1070
01:30:37,347 --> 01:30:39,582
it's all just sounds that we made.
1071
01:30:39,683 --> 01:30:42,018
And Arif was producing the album with us,
1072
01:30:42,119 --> 01:30:44,720
and he said,
''Great, when you come out to New York
1073
01:30:44,822 --> 01:30:46,689
''we'll do You Win Again again.''
1074
01:30:46,790 --> 01:30:50,293
'Cause we'd done the demo in my garage.
1075
01:30:50,394 --> 01:30:54,464
We got to New York and I'm thinking,
''They're gonna do the whole thing again.
1076
01:30:54,565 --> 01:30:55,898
''Where do we start?''
1077
01:30:55,999 --> 01:30:58,301
We had some programmers
in there and he went,
1078
01:30:58,402 --> 01:31:01,003
''Have you got the stomps?''
And I went, ''No.
1079
01:31:01,104 --> 01:31:03,639
''I thought we were gonna do
the whole thing again.
1080
01:31:03,740 --> 01:31:07,243
''No, you've gotta get the stomps,
the stomps are what makes the record.
1081
01:31:07,344 --> 01:31:09,979
''The sound is part of the backtrack,
we've got to have that.''
1082
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:14,984
So I had to get them sampled on my drum
machine in miami and the disc sent up...
1083
01:31:15,085 --> 01:31:17,987
We got it and then we embellished on it
a bit more in the studio
1084
01:31:18,088 --> 01:31:21,457
and everybody at the record company
wanted them off.
1085
01:31:21,558 --> 01:31:23,559
And we went, ''No.''
1086
01:31:23,660 --> 01:31:26,762
''Well, can you take them off the intro?''
''No.''
1087
01:31:26,864 --> 01:31:29,599
''Can you turn them down a bit in the mix?''
''No.''
1088
01:31:29,700 --> 01:31:31,534
''It's as it is, that's the record.''
1089
01:31:31,635 --> 01:31:34,070
And they didn't like that.
They weren't too happy about that.
1090
01:31:34,171 --> 01:31:35,304
And now everyone says,
1091
01:31:35,405 --> 01:31:38,641
''As soon as that record starts on the radio,
you know it's the Bee Gees.''
1092
01:31:38,742 --> 01:31:42,745
That was such a great signal. It signaled
to everybody that this song's coming.
1093
01:31:42,846 --> 01:31:45,014
It became Princess Diana's f avorite song,
1094
01:31:45,115 --> 01:31:47,783
it was just amazing,
the success that record had.
1095
01:31:47,885 --> 01:31:49,452
I knew I'd made it in the sampling
1096
01:31:49,553 --> 01:31:52,355
when Phil Collins
came up to me at the airport and said,
1097
01:31:52,456 --> 01:31:55,658
''Can you give me a copy of the stomps?''
1098
01:32:56,753 --> 01:33:00,389
I think the Bee Gee sound...
I don't know how to describe it.
1099
01:33:00,490 --> 01:33:02,592
I guess it's just a mixture. It's us.
1100
01:33:02,693 --> 01:33:04,860
You've got to remember,
we come f rom an era where
1101
01:33:04,962 --> 01:33:06,963
everybody was experimenting with sounds
1102
01:33:07,064 --> 01:33:09,665
and it was almost a rite of passage.
1103
01:33:14,638 --> 01:33:20,509
So it's a real mixed bag, and I think we were
very fortunate it wasn't just one lead singer.
1104
01:33:20,611 --> 01:33:24,046
We could all alternate, and sometimes
sing the same song together.
1105
01:33:24,147 --> 01:33:26,382
When we sing songs like...
1106
01:33:30,420 --> 01:33:33,990
It's Barry and Robin singing in unison.
But it sounds like one guy.
1107
01:33:34,091 --> 01:33:37,360
''Bit more Robin, bit more Barry.
Are you sure? Which one is it?''
1108
01:33:37,461 --> 01:33:39,795
But it's a sound of the two.
1109
01:33:39,896 --> 01:33:42,865
Then the three of us
go into harmony on the...
1110
01:33:42,966 --> 01:33:44,634
And it's...
1111
01:33:45,869 --> 01:33:47,403
It's just Barry and Robin.
1112
01:33:47,504 --> 01:33:50,973
But they mesh together so well,
that it sounds like one voice.
1113
01:33:51,074 --> 01:33:53,976
But it's a different voice
f rom them separately.
1114
01:33:54,077 --> 01:33:57,847
To us it was like the Beatles,
it was having that alternative lead
1115
01:33:57,948 --> 01:34:00,149
and being able to mix it up.
1116
01:34:18,935 --> 01:34:20,870
I think people today in the world of music
1117
01:34:20,971 --> 01:34:23,739
are f ar, f ar more conservative
in what they do,
1118
01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:26,409
they don't use harmonies like they should,
1119
01:34:26,510 --> 01:34:28,844
it's because they're just too lazy.
1120
01:34:28,945 --> 01:34:31,614
It's hard work.
Because there's no technology
1121
01:34:31,715 --> 01:34:33,783
that can create a human voice in harmony.
1122
01:34:33,884 --> 01:34:36,352
Or even a machine
that can create a melody.
1123
01:34:36,453 --> 01:34:37,953
You've got to do that yourself .
1124
01:34:38,055 --> 01:34:41,424
Those are the basic vehicles
of all popular music.
1125
01:34:41,525 --> 01:34:44,093
That's what's gonna make music what it is
and the songs what they are.
1126
01:34:44,194 --> 01:34:46,429
And there's still no technology f or those,
1127
01:34:46,530 --> 01:34:49,198
and those are the principal ones,
and thank God there isn't.
1128
01:34:49,299 --> 01:34:51,267
That blend has been used quite a lot.
1129
01:34:51,368 --> 01:34:54,837
With harmonies, we bank them underneath
with doubles and falsettos on top
1130
01:34:54,938 --> 01:34:58,674
so you get the f ull richness of the harmony,
which is what I love to do.
1131
01:34:58,775 --> 01:35:02,344
I love to arrange and get the records all...
this with that there and...
1132
01:35:02,446 --> 01:35:05,915
Paint the picture, you know, add the colors.
1133
01:35:06,016 --> 01:35:09,852
And they're like our children, we send them
out in the world, we hope they do well.
1134
01:36:21,258 --> 01:36:25,361
I think people will always love songs
about human relationships and melody.
1135
01:36:25,462 --> 01:36:28,597
These are the songs that will reach out
over the decades to the unborn.
1136
01:36:28,698 --> 01:36:32,001
Because they are perennial as the grass,
human emotion.
1137
01:36:32,102 --> 01:36:34,870
It is not ego that makes you write
a great song,
1138
01:36:34,971 --> 01:36:37,773
it's the belief that you can't
that makes you do it.
1139
01:36:37,874 --> 01:36:39,642
Sometimes even envy and jealousy.
1140
01:36:39,743 --> 01:36:42,244
You hear a great song
on the radio and think,
1141
01:36:42,345 --> 01:36:44,246
''I wish I could write a song like that.''
1142
01:36:44,347 --> 01:36:46,682
I think you need things to motivate you,
1143
01:36:46,783 --> 01:36:50,286
but also there's that belief
that you can as well.
1144
01:36:50,387 --> 01:36:52,721
- Damn the torpedoes.
- Yeah.
1145
01:36:52,823 --> 01:36:54,623
Robert said to us in 1967,
1146
01:36:54,724 --> 01:36:58,093
He said, ''Write f or 40 years f rom now,
don't just write for now.''
1147
01:36:58,195 --> 01:37:00,162
In other words, ''Don't write f or trends.''
1148
01:37:00,263 --> 01:37:03,799
Which we tried not to do.
That's the one thing I remember him saying.
1149
01:37:03,900 --> 01:37:05,501
''Write f or the f uture.''
1150
01:37:28,258 --> 01:37:32,328
Every single award
or every single citation or achievement
1151
01:37:32,429 --> 01:37:35,130
that's given to you
has a different feel to it.
1152
01:37:35,232 --> 01:37:37,766
The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
was to us everything.
1153
01:37:37,868 --> 01:37:42,438
Please stand and welcome Barry, Robin
and maurice Gibb into the Hall of Fame.
1154
01:37:42,539 --> 01:37:44,406
The Bee Gees!
1155
01:37:50,247 --> 01:37:53,916
Being in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
was just a dream f or us.
1156
01:37:54,017 --> 01:37:56,619
But not only getting inducted
into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame,
1157
01:37:56,720 --> 01:37:59,622
but being inducted by Brian Wilson
to me was a knockout.
1158
01:37:59,723 --> 01:38:01,156
That blew my night.
1159
01:38:01,258 --> 01:38:03,859
We are in f act the enigma with the stigma.
1160
01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:06,462
We know this. We're aware of it.
1161
01:38:06,563 --> 01:38:10,733
We hear it every day.
We live with it. We have suffered.
1162
01:38:10,834 --> 01:38:13,035
But tonight I think we've come home
1163
01:38:13,136 --> 01:38:15,905
and we thank you very much f or this honor.
1164
01:38:16,006 --> 01:38:17,506
So, every single award you get
1165
01:38:17,607 --> 01:38:21,076
has a different kind
of intense emotional experience f or you.
1166
01:38:21,177 --> 01:38:22,544
The BRIT Awards, it's been a long time
1167
01:38:22,646 --> 01:38:24,880
since we've been even involved
in anything like that,
1168
01:38:24,981 --> 01:38:28,017
but to get the Lifetime Achievement Award
was a wonderful honor.
1169
01:38:28,118 --> 01:38:30,019
Beautif ul Quincy Jones giving us that award
1170
01:38:30,120 --> 01:38:33,255
in the American music Awards,
which was wonderful again.
1171
01:38:33,356 --> 01:38:37,393
Quincy I've known f or a lot of years.
It's so sweet that he could do that.
1172
01:38:37,494 --> 01:38:38,761
Gentlemen,
1173
01:38:38,862 --> 01:38:43,699
let me just sum it up with this phrase
on your International Award.
1174
01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:49,038
Their recordings have sold well over
100 million copies worldwide,
1175
01:38:49,139 --> 01:38:51,607
making them one...
1176
01:38:51,708 --> 01:38:55,077
making them one the top f ive
most successful artists ever.
1177
01:38:55,178 --> 01:38:58,047
Congratulations and good luck
on your upcoming world tour.
1178
01:38:58,148 --> 01:39:00,249
- Barry!
- Thank you, Quincy!
1179
01:39:02,285 --> 01:39:03,552
How times change.
1180
01:39:03,653 --> 01:39:06,889
Ten, f ifteen years ago you wouldn't
have put on a Bee Gees record.
1181
01:39:06,990 --> 01:39:08,190
Now, it's sort of OK.
1182
01:40:21,865 --> 01:40:25,100
We stopped touring basically to concentrate
more on the writing and songs
1183
01:40:25,201 --> 01:40:28,003
and the work that was involved in that.
1184
01:40:28,104 --> 01:40:30,172
And if we did tour,
we wanted it to be special.
1185
01:40:30,273 --> 01:40:32,941
But we certainly didn't want to go out
and do a nostalgia tour.
1186
01:40:33,043 --> 01:40:36,178
Just doing the old songs and saying,
''Thank you very much. Cheers.''
1187
01:40:36,279 --> 01:40:40,682
We wanted to at least have a good success
under our belt before we go out again.
1188
01:40:44,254 --> 01:40:50,025
One Night Only was, only became a concept
after we did the one show at the MGM.
1189
01:40:50,126 --> 01:40:52,461
It came about f rom back surgery.
1190
01:40:52,562 --> 01:40:55,664
Long-term, every-two-nights
or every-one-night tours
1191
01:40:55,765 --> 01:40:58,133
were no longer really feasible.
1192
01:40:59,169 --> 01:41:03,138
The pain was f ar too much f or me,
my back has set into a place where,
1193
01:41:03,239 --> 01:41:08,143
if I did that every night,
nobody was going to insure us to do that.
1194
01:41:08,244 --> 01:41:11,480
And when you sing falsetto,
it's a hell of a high raise to go to,
1195
01:41:11,581 --> 01:41:13,849
that back needs... you need your back.
1196
01:41:13,950 --> 01:41:16,418
And it's agony when you do it, 'cause...
1197
01:41:16,519 --> 01:41:19,021
You feel it before
you've even taken half a breath.
1198
01:41:19,122 --> 01:41:21,223
So, Barry was going through all that stuff.
1199
01:41:21,324 --> 01:41:24,626
I don't know how he did it
but he didn't want to do a bad show.
1200
01:41:46,483 --> 01:41:48,350
So, we all made up our minds that
1201
01:41:48,451 --> 01:41:51,520
maybe it was a good idea
to do six shows worldwide
1202
01:41:51,621 --> 01:41:54,156
and put a price on each one of those shows,
1203
01:41:54,257 --> 01:41:58,827
and that way, people would travel
to places that we'd never been before.
1204
01:41:58,928 --> 01:42:00,863
And let my back settle.
1205
01:42:00,964 --> 01:42:03,632
So we did one almost every two weeks,
three weeks.
1206
01:42:13,943 --> 01:42:16,111
I've seen him do shows
when his back's been in agony.
1207
01:42:16,212 --> 01:42:19,915
I know 'cause I've had back surgery too,
and I know exactly what he went through.
1208
01:42:20,016 --> 01:42:23,552
And he's persevered through
a whole two-hour show in agony.
1209
01:42:23,653 --> 01:42:25,287
And nobody would have known it.
1210
01:42:25,388 --> 01:42:29,791
We knew it 'cause he'd be singing and
he'd turn around and look at us and go...
1211
01:42:29,893 --> 01:42:32,561
Like this and go...
And back out again.
1212
01:42:32,662 --> 01:42:34,663
But all the time in agony.
1213
01:44:29,545 --> 01:44:33,248
This Is Where I Came In
takes me back to our Beatle period.
1214
01:44:33,349 --> 01:44:37,185
We sort of went back to the way
we recorded in the late '60s.
1215
01:44:39,622 --> 01:44:41,556
We sort of went back to that stage
1216
01:44:41,658 --> 01:44:45,827
where it's the acoustics, the piano,
the bass, the drums, whatever...
1217
01:44:45,928 --> 01:44:49,097
A lot of live drums on this album.
We wanted that live feel.
1218
01:44:49,198 --> 01:44:52,267
Particularly on the opening track.
We just wanted to rock a bit more.
1219
01:44:52,368 --> 01:44:54,670
But This Is Where I Came In
is the harmony thing.
1220
01:44:54,771 --> 01:44:58,040
We just wanted the three of us around
one mic, singing the harmony on this song.
1221
01:44:58,141 --> 01:45:00,709
And that's what we did.
And that was two takes. The whole song.
1222
01:45:00,810 --> 01:45:03,278
The whole record. For the vocals.
1223
01:45:03,379 --> 01:45:05,480
''OK. That's f inished. Next.''
1224
01:45:05,581 --> 01:45:08,717
And it was like, ''Whoa!
This is good stuff. This is great f un!''
1225
01:45:08,818 --> 01:45:11,553
We were recording just like we used to.
1226
01:45:36,512 --> 01:45:40,048
I loved it. I still do. I don't like
the long hours in the studio anymore
1227
01:45:40,149 --> 01:45:42,851
because there's so much going on outside
1228
01:45:42,952 --> 01:45:45,320
and I don't have the attention span.
1229
01:45:45,421 --> 01:45:49,424
If I can make a record in two days,
then I'll do that. I'll do it in two days.
1230
01:45:49,525 --> 01:45:53,695
But I couldn't sit there f or 12 hours a day
f or three months like we used to.
1231
01:45:53,796 --> 01:45:57,232
Not with f ive children.
Not reality anymore.
1232
01:45:57,333 --> 01:46:00,001
But I love it. And I love the results of it.
1233
01:46:00,103 --> 01:46:03,772
When something sounds amazing
and you don't know how you got there.
1234
01:46:16,919 --> 01:46:19,554
Yeah, we love that.
We love that song.
1235
01:46:22,091 --> 01:46:25,460
It's... It's maurice's turn now.
Brother Moe over here.
1236
01:46:29,132 --> 01:46:32,167
Maurice has done a lot more
individual music on this album.
1237
01:46:32,268 --> 01:46:34,302
It's really about himself , the song.
1238
01:46:34,404 --> 01:46:38,073
The song is called man In The middle.
We hope you like it.
1239
01:47:15,178 --> 01:47:17,112
Yeah, I've sort of been
the man in the middle.
1240
01:47:17,213 --> 01:47:18,914
It still comes f rom that business
1241
01:47:19,015 --> 01:47:21,817
where I've always been in the middle
of things between Barry and Robin...
1242
01:47:21,918 --> 01:47:24,152
At different times we've all been
the man in the middle.
1243
01:47:24,253 --> 01:47:26,521
Robin and I hardly ever
see eye-to-eye,
1244
01:47:26,622 --> 01:47:29,958
and yet, we gravitate towards
each other no matter what.
1245
01:47:30,059 --> 01:47:31,793
And moe was always the sort of ,
1246
01:47:31,894 --> 01:47:34,396
''Break it up, you guys. Don't argue.''
1247
01:47:34,497 --> 01:47:38,233
moe would always be that guy
that would take the middle ground
1248
01:47:38,334 --> 01:47:41,269
or calm things down if things got...
1249
01:47:41,370 --> 01:47:42,938
To that extent, yes, he was.
1250
01:47:43,039 --> 01:47:45,373
But I think over the years,
we've all done that.
1251
01:48:23,546 --> 01:48:26,748
maurice Gibb, one third of the Bee Gees,
has died, age 53.
1252
01:48:26,849 --> 01:48:30,352
Here's Tamzin Sylvester
with tonight's Liquid Lead.
1253
01:48:30,453 --> 01:48:33,655
maurice collapsed at his beachf ront house
in Miami on Thursday
1254
01:48:33,756 --> 01:48:35,123
with severe stomach pains.
1255
01:48:35,224 --> 01:48:37,659
He was rushed
to the nearby mount Sinai hospital
1256
01:48:37,760 --> 01:48:40,128
but had a heart attack
during emergency surgery.
1257
01:48:40,229 --> 01:48:44,065
His twin brother, Robin, spoke to the media
on Friday, saying he was on the mend
1258
01:48:44,166 --> 01:48:46,134
but then maurice slipped into a coma.
1259
01:48:46,235 --> 01:48:48,103
He died in the early hours of this morning
1260
01:48:48,204 --> 01:48:51,206
with his wife, children
and brothers Gibb at his bedside.
1261
01:48:51,307 --> 01:48:54,276
It was shattering to both of us,
shattering to both of us
1262
01:48:54,377 --> 01:48:57,946
in countless ways, countless ways.
1263
01:48:58,047 --> 01:49:00,181
And the speed
at which it happened as well.
1264
01:49:00,283 --> 01:49:04,119
I mean, so unexpected
because he was quite young,
1265
01:49:04,220 --> 01:49:06,154
and he'd never really been ill,
1266
01:49:06,255 --> 01:49:08,690
and it happened in such...
in a matter of hours.
1267
01:49:08,791 --> 01:49:10,191
And it still...
1268
01:49:10,293 --> 01:49:16,765
It's mind-blowing, f rom a Wednesday night
to the Saturday when he died...
1269
01:49:16,866 --> 01:49:19,634
It's just like nothing could stop it.
1270
01:49:19,735 --> 01:49:23,672
And the idea of us going on without moe
1271
01:49:23,773 --> 01:49:26,408
became something that was,
1272
01:49:26,509 --> 01:49:30,078
''Oh, we could do that.''
''But no, we couldn't.''
1273
01:49:30,179 --> 01:49:32,147
''Yes, we could.''
''No, we couldn't.''
1274
01:49:32,248 --> 01:49:33,782
Well, we were in shock.
1275
01:49:34,917 --> 01:49:39,955
Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome
the 2003 Legend Award recipients,
1276
01:49:40,056 --> 01:49:42,624
Barry and Robin Gibb.
1277
01:49:47,964 --> 01:49:51,499
The Legend in the 2003 Awards
was bittersweet in the Grammys
1278
01:49:51,601 --> 01:49:54,603
because it was...
maurice wasn't there.
1279
01:49:54,704 --> 01:49:58,239
And you've got to remember
that maurice died on January 12th.
1280
01:49:58,341 --> 01:50:00,742
Well, this was, I think,
sometime in January...
1281
01:50:00,843 --> 01:50:02,711
And his f amily were there.
1282
01:50:02,812 --> 01:50:07,115
And so it became more of
everybody really dwelling on moe
1283
01:50:07,216 --> 01:50:10,819
and the sadness of it, and the f act
that we'd lost him at such an early age.
1284
01:50:10,920 --> 01:50:15,457
And it was incredible to receive it,
but we were sort of numb, you know.
1285
01:50:15,558 --> 01:50:18,994
We'd just come to terms with the f act
that, ''Maurice has just died.''
1286
01:50:19,095 --> 01:50:21,463
We were talking about hours, days.
1287
01:50:21,564 --> 01:50:24,165
And so, it was...
It came right in the middle.
1288
01:50:24,266 --> 01:50:27,869
Our equilibrium
was completely out of whack,
1289
01:50:27,970 --> 01:50:31,072
and if it had been another time,
we would have enjoyed it more.
1290
01:50:31,173 --> 01:50:32,974
And if moe had been there with us,
1291
01:50:33,075 --> 01:50:36,011
it would've been the cream on the cake,
you know.
1292
01:50:36,112 --> 01:50:39,047
But the idea that
he wasn't there to share it...
1293
01:50:39,148 --> 01:50:41,650
was equally important
but in a very sad way.
1294
01:50:41,751 --> 01:50:45,387
Even the most ardent f ans will always know
a different maurice than I do.
1295
01:50:45,488 --> 01:50:49,090
There's a personality and a whole history
that I know about maurice
1296
01:50:49,191 --> 01:50:51,493
that people will never know,
and that's the person I miss.
1297
01:50:51,594 --> 01:50:55,030
But I... The music is there...
He lives on with music,
1298
01:50:55,131 --> 01:50:59,167
and on the radio, when I hear a song
with him, that's... he's still alive.
1299
01:50:59,268 --> 01:51:03,605
- Robin and I love music so much...
- Yes.
1300
01:51:03,706 --> 01:51:06,207
..and it's so ingrained in our souls
1301
01:51:06,308 --> 01:51:09,811
that we don't know
how to move away f rom it.
1302
01:51:09,912 --> 01:51:15,083
I think it's important, also, f or maurice's
memory, his legacy, just as much.
1303
01:51:15,184 --> 01:51:19,020
The legacy of the Bee Gees
must go on, one way or the other.
1304
01:51:39,942 --> 01:51:44,312
It's been a few years
since we've heard our voices together.
1305
01:51:51,987 --> 01:51:55,724
Maurice's death left a kind of
emotional vacuum between the two of us
1306
01:51:55,825 --> 01:51:59,861
because Barry had a way of dealing with it,
I have my way of dealing with it.
1307
01:51:59,962 --> 01:52:04,332
A few years have passed now, we're able
to see each other in a different way.
1308
01:52:04,433 --> 01:52:08,837
We're beginning to behave
the way we always did, before moe died.
1309
01:52:42,104 --> 01:52:44,806
Because of what happened with maurice...
1310
01:52:44,907 --> 01:52:48,343
Barry had a way of expressing his way...
1311
01:52:48,444 --> 01:52:50,345
I was pulverized.
1312
01:52:50,446 --> 01:52:55,650
I had no passion or interest
in continuing at all.
1313
01:52:55,751 --> 01:52:58,720
Robin went the opposite direction
and had to keep moving.
1314
01:52:58,821 --> 01:53:01,122
I wanted to keep the Bee Gees
as the three of us.
1315
01:53:01,223 --> 01:53:05,660
I wanted that to be
the only thing anyone ever saw again.
1316
01:54:12,528 --> 01:54:14,095
We still have a lot of music in us,
1317
01:54:14,196 --> 01:54:17,265
because we've already written
one song together this week.
1318
01:54:17,366 --> 01:54:22,837
I now know inside that
what we will do will be good.
1319
01:54:22,938 --> 01:54:27,942
It's time f or us now to move on
without ever letting go of Moe.
1320
01:54:47,129 --> 01:54:50,298
The blend of the voices is great.
Even I get nostalgic.
1321
01:54:51,533 --> 01:54:54,035
I feel more every day as I go,
1322
01:54:54,136 --> 01:54:58,506
f ortunate to be born into a f amily
where Barry is my brother
1323
01:54:58,607 --> 01:55:00,642
because I get to work with him.
1324
01:55:00,743 --> 01:55:03,544
I mean, one of the greatest
pop writers of all time.
1325
01:55:03,646 --> 01:55:08,716
I mean, there's no... In all the billions
of f amilies that are born in the world,
1326
01:55:08,817 --> 01:55:10,785
I got to be born in the f amily with him.
1327
01:55:10,886 --> 01:55:14,355
How good can it get?
1328
01:55:14,456 --> 01:55:19,360
- I mean that's...that's real.
- Well, it gets...what it gets is mutual.
1329
01:55:19,461 --> 01:55:21,095
What it gets is mutual.
1330
01:55:21,196 --> 01:55:23,431
What you draw f rom me,
I draw f rom you.
1331
01:55:23,532 --> 01:55:28,336
And I look f orward to the next time
that we can concoct something
1332
01:55:28,437 --> 01:55:31,873
that we both look at each other and say,
''There, that's it.''
1333
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- That's all I care about.
- Me too.
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