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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 0 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:10,000 Subtitle edited by Adam ttvn91@yahoo.com 1 00:00:15,951 --> 00:00:19,500 BEE GEES   2 00:00:19,501 --> 00:00:19,600 BEE GEES I 3 00:00:19,601 --> 00:00:19,700 BEE GEES IN 4 00:00:19,701 --> 00:00:19,800 BEE GEES IN O 5 00:00:19,801 --> 00:00:19,900 BEE GEES IN OU 6 00:00:19,901 --> 00:00:20,000 BEE GEES IN OUR 7 00:00:20,001 --> 00:00:20,100 BEE GEES IN OUR O 8 00:00:20,101 --> 00:00:20,200 BEE GEES IN OUR OW 9 00:00:20,201 --> 00:00:20,300 BEE GEES IN OUR OWN 10 00:00:20,301 --> 00:00:20,400 BEE GEES IN OUR OWN T 11 00:00:20,401 --> 00:00:20,500 BEE GEES IN OUR OWN TI 12 00:00:20,501 --> 00:00:20,600 BEE GEES IN OUR OWN TIM 13 00:00:20,601 --> 00:00:25,551 BEE GEES IN OUR OWN TIME 14 00:03:22,851 --> 00:03:27,355 I just think we were intensely affected by the beginning of rock 'n' roll, 15 00:03:27,456 --> 00:03:29,324 by Elvis Presley and Lonnie Donegan, 16 00:03:29,425 --> 00:03:31,359 Tommy Steele, the Don Lang Five... 17 00:03:31,460 --> 00:03:34,062 But I really felt the love, the real love of it 18 00:03:34,163 --> 00:03:36,864 is when I heard Wake Up Little Susie by the Everly Brothers. 19 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,908 And I kept on playing it over and over again, 20 00:03:47,009 --> 00:03:49,143 and I kept on hearing these harmonies. 21 00:03:49,245 --> 00:03:51,946 So, when we heard any Everly Brothers songs, 22 00:03:52,047 --> 00:03:55,083 the three of us would just add a third harmony, so it would be three-part. 23 00:04:04,460 --> 00:04:07,595 We perfected it from listening to those guys and Neil Sedaka, 24 00:04:07,696 --> 00:04:09,797 where he'd actually triple with himself. 25 00:04:09,898 --> 00:04:13,568 So, these three-part harmony songs, anything like that, we could sing. 26 00:04:13,669 --> 00:04:15,503 We just wanted to get up and play. 27 00:04:15,604 --> 00:04:17,538 Yeah. We just wanted to have fun. 28 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,574 In that degree, it was a hobby. 29 00:04:19,675 --> 00:04:23,611 When did you first get together and discover you could harmonize? 30 00:04:23,712 --> 00:04:25,446 The first time I remember, 31 00:04:25,547 --> 00:04:28,316 Robin and I were about six, Barry was nine, 32 00:04:28,417 --> 00:04:30,351 and we sat in the little lounge room 33 00:04:30,452 --> 00:04:32,920 and Barry'd got his first guitar for his birthday 34 00:04:33,022 --> 00:04:35,156 and the first thing we sang was Lollipop. 35 00:04:35,257 --> 00:04:38,359 - Lollipop. - The mudlarks sort of thing. It was... 36 00:04:38,460 --> 00:04:40,428 We just automatically harmonized. 37 00:04:40,529 --> 00:04:42,563 Don't ask me where we got Lollipop, 38 00:04:42,665 --> 00:04:45,099 but it was the only one that helped us harmonize. 39 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,101 Can you remember it? 40 00:05:01,583 --> 00:05:03,718 We would just sing songs like Lollipop. 41 00:05:03,819 --> 00:05:07,021 We would just sing them and just try and get them better. 42 00:05:07,122 --> 00:05:10,825 I remember Dad coming in and saying, ''I thought you had the radio on.'' 43 00:05:10,926 --> 00:05:13,061 That was the beginning of the harmonies. 44 00:05:13,162 --> 00:05:16,197 They became instinctive for us because we loved the oldies. 45 00:05:16,298 --> 00:05:18,032 It's incredible, considering how young we were. 46 00:05:18,133 --> 00:05:21,336 I was about nine and maurice and Robin were about six. 47 00:05:21,437 --> 00:05:24,439 We often thought we were triplets at one time 48 00:05:24,540 --> 00:05:28,476 because we all had the same goal, the ultimate goal ofjust singing together. 49 00:05:28,577 --> 00:05:32,313 I would say we'd be more three brothers than twins and an older brother. 50 00:05:32,414 --> 00:05:34,816 musical creativity ran right through our family. 51 00:05:34,917 --> 00:05:38,419 Our father was a band leader during the war, 52 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,456 and he then led the band on the ferry 53 00:05:41,557 --> 00:05:43,591 between Liverpool and the Isle of man. 54 00:05:43,692 --> 00:05:47,595 Work was pretty difficult in the late '50s for my dad to come up with. 55 00:05:47,696 --> 00:05:51,132 He needed a fresh start, and he was still young enough to do that. 56 00:05:51,233 --> 00:05:53,668 And he had a responsibility for us, so we... 57 00:05:53,769 --> 00:05:55,703 It was a natural move, to Australia. 58 00:05:55,804 --> 00:05:58,072 He was a very ambitious man and I liked that. 59 00:05:58,173 --> 00:06:02,610 And we all went. And it was like a six-week trip across the world. 60 00:06:02,711 --> 00:06:05,713 For us, it was an adventure. We didn't know where we were going. 61 00:06:05,814 --> 00:06:10,418 We got on a ship called The Fairsea with our parents, and baby Andy, and our sister, 62 00:06:10,519 --> 00:06:13,488 and traveled for five weeks to Australia, with very little money. 63 00:06:13,589 --> 00:06:17,258 We had a ball. We were singing every day on the front of the boat in the sun. 64 00:06:17,359 --> 00:06:20,728 - And you crossed the Indian Ocean... - We went on the Fairsea. 65 00:06:20,829 --> 00:06:23,398 ..went through the Suez Canal, the Red Sea, 66 00:06:23,499 --> 00:06:25,666 and you saw things children our age would... 67 00:06:25,768 --> 00:06:27,535 - It was great! - ..never have seen. 68 00:06:27,636 --> 00:06:30,638 Where we settled was Brisbane, which is quite tropical, 69 00:06:30,739 --> 00:06:34,475 passion fruit on the streets and banana trees in everybody's garden. 70 00:06:34,576 --> 00:06:38,646 And then we started working. We found different places to go and sing. 71 00:06:38,747 --> 00:06:41,816 We got the opportunity to sing in a racing arena. 72 00:06:41,917 --> 00:06:45,386 We got to know a driver called Bill Goode. He said, ''You can come and sing.'' 73 00:06:45,487 --> 00:06:48,689 We sang at the Redcliffe speedway on the back of a flatbed truck 74 00:06:48,791 --> 00:06:51,359 and collected about 14 pounds off the track. 75 00:06:51,460 --> 00:06:53,528 People threw money on the track. 76 00:06:53,629 --> 00:06:55,997 That was our first public engagement. 77 00:06:56,098 --> 00:06:59,567 The racing driver who got us the gig knew a disc jockey called Bill Gates, 78 00:06:59,668 --> 00:07:01,035 and he told him about us. 79 00:07:01,136 --> 00:07:04,572 And he came, he heard us sing, and he invited us to the station. 80 00:07:04,673 --> 00:07:06,274 He was a drive-time DJ. 81 00:07:06,375 --> 00:07:09,343 He christened us the Bee Gees as a sort of temporary name, 82 00:07:09,445 --> 00:07:12,580 his initials, Brothers Gibb, Barry. 83 00:07:12,681 --> 00:07:16,884 And he asked us to go into his radio station and record some songs, 84 00:07:16,985 --> 00:07:18,986 original compositions Barry had written. 85 00:07:19,087 --> 00:07:21,255 It was Let me Love You, 86 00:07:21,356 --> 00:07:23,858 Time Is Passing By, and The Echo Of Your Love. 87 00:07:23,959 --> 00:07:25,793 And he recorded these on acetate. 88 00:07:25,894 --> 00:07:29,564 In those days, the acetates were the thing. They didn't have tape... 89 00:07:29,665 --> 00:07:32,133 He played it on his drive-time show for a while. 90 00:07:32,234 --> 00:07:34,402 We didn't have a recording contract, but we were on the radio. 91 00:07:34,503 --> 00:07:38,773 We were only kids and we got the bug, and we wanted to keep going. 92 00:07:38,874 --> 00:07:43,711 my father then got an agent because we were getting work in the pubs in Brisbane. 93 00:07:43,812 --> 00:07:45,947 And our lives changed, I think, at that point, 94 00:07:46,048 --> 00:07:50,051 because we worked and did two to three shows per night. 95 00:07:50,152 --> 00:07:54,055 It sustained our family, but we never thought we'd get rich doing it. 96 00:07:54,156 --> 00:07:56,190 - You all sing together, right? - Right. 97 00:07:56,291 --> 00:07:58,693 And your brother Barry plays. Come on up here. 98 00:07:58,794 --> 00:08:00,261 Our first television shows, 99 00:08:00,362 --> 00:08:03,164 I had become very lanky, very tall and lanky and thin, 100 00:08:03,265 --> 00:08:06,534 and maurice and Robin were still the same height. 101 00:08:06,635 --> 00:08:10,271 So, what they decided to do was to get two tea chests 102 00:08:10,372 --> 00:08:12,540 and put Robin and maurice on each tea chest, 103 00:08:12,641 --> 00:08:14,575 so we'd be the same height for the camera. 104 00:08:14,676 --> 00:08:16,811 You're going to stand up on the higher level. That's the thing. 105 00:08:16,912 --> 00:08:19,013 Now, is it true you write your own pieces, Barry? 106 00:08:19,114 --> 00:08:20,748 Yes, that's true, Desmond. 107 00:08:20,849 --> 00:08:24,285 - And what was the song we sang? - Time Is Passing By. 108 00:09:00,622 --> 00:09:02,290 So, we stood there. I remember... 109 00:09:02,391 --> 00:09:06,260 Robin and I were stood like this with our hands behind our backs going like this. 110 00:09:06,361 --> 00:09:08,896 We didn't know what to do with our hands. 111 00:09:08,997 --> 00:09:11,566 And just standing there going... and singing away. 112 00:09:14,770 --> 00:09:16,704 We used to do all these pop shows, 113 00:09:16,805 --> 00:09:20,341 but they were very live, and there was no such thing as taping shows. 114 00:09:20,442 --> 00:09:25,713 We did various songs we'd either written or heard, songs that were hits at the time. 115 00:09:25,814 --> 00:09:29,617 There was Lollipop, of course, and songs that people sang in harmony. 116 00:09:40,596 --> 00:09:43,764 We were quite regulars on those shows for a while as kids, 117 00:09:43,865 --> 00:09:48,436 but we weren't by any means a really professional act. 118 00:09:48,537 --> 00:09:53,641 And it was great experience because you were on the spot. 119 00:09:53,742 --> 00:09:55,843 Nothing was pre-recorded. 120 00:09:55,944 --> 00:09:59,080 You picked up your guitar, and you went on, and you played, and you sang. 121 00:10:09,791 --> 00:10:15,896 Between 1960 and 1965 was the era of rock-'n'-roll in Australia. 122 00:10:15,998 --> 00:10:18,799 With its own environment, its own TV stars, 123 00:10:18,900 --> 00:10:23,204 its own pop stars, rock stars, totally unknown to the rest of the world. 124 00:11:02,177 --> 00:11:05,212 We were on an adventure together, loving everything we were doing. 125 00:11:05,313 --> 00:11:07,548 We were just hoping we could get more recognition, 126 00:11:07,649 --> 00:11:10,451 but I don't think it was till the Beatles came along that we realized 127 00:11:10,552 --> 00:11:14,121 how much we wanted to have the approval they had. 128 00:11:27,769 --> 00:11:30,938 When the Beatles came to Sydney, the magic was unbelievable. 129 00:11:31,039 --> 00:11:34,909 The whole city was, like, in this mood of Beatlemania. 130 00:11:35,010 --> 00:11:37,111 I'd never seen anything like this before. 131 00:11:37,212 --> 00:11:40,748 I remember going down Pitt Street and getting a Beatle Fan Club book, 132 00:11:40,849 --> 00:11:42,783 and looking through what gear they'd got, 133 00:11:42,884 --> 00:11:45,553 what boots they were wearing, what outfits, what clothes, 134 00:11:45,654 --> 00:11:49,523 the amps, the guitars, the recording session pictures, all this stuff. 135 00:11:49,624 --> 00:11:53,494 I was mesmerized by them because they were doing something 136 00:11:53,595 --> 00:11:57,098 that we loved to do and they were successful at it. 137 00:12:04,706 --> 00:12:08,309 So we began to believe in ourselves. We began to believe, 138 00:12:08,410 --> 00:12:12,947 ''OK, if they can do it, then we should be able to have a go at doing it.'' 139 00:12:13,048 --> 00:12:17,752 It was not born out of arrogance, but it was just a blind belief that, 140 00:12:17,853 --> 00:12:21,422 - ''Hey, you know...'' - ''Why can't we have a shot at that?'' 141 00:12:48,083 --> 00:12:52,019 So, we felt a little bit left out of the Mersey boom. 142 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,188 We wanted to be a part of that. 143 00:12:54,289 --> 00:12:57,525 There was so much energy and so much excitement about it. 144 00:12:57,626 --> 00:12:59,393 That was our world. We wanted... 145 00:12:59,494 --> 00:13:01,729 We're from manchester. As far as we knew, 146 00:13:01,830 --> 00:13:05,533 we knew we were Isle of Man born, but brought up as kids in manchester, 147 00:13:05,634 --> 00:13:08,135 and we were Northern, just like the Beatles. 148 00:13:08,236 --> 00:13:09,570 ''What are we doing here?'' 149 00:13:09,671 --> 00:13:12,206 - Righto, chaps, let's have a check. Flaps? - Check. 150 00:13:12,307 --> 00:13:13,340 - Rudder. - Right. 151 00:13:34,462 --> 00:13:37,164 You have to remember, this was an era where the UK 152 00:13:37,265 --> 00:13:40,201 was dictating what happened in the world... 153 00:13:40,302 --> 00:13:43,003 What happened in the world. Culturally, musically. 154 00:13:43,104 --> 00:13:45,940 And we had to be where the action was. London was the hub. 155 00:13:46,041 --> 00:13:47,408 As much as we loved Australia, 156 00:13:47,509 --> 00:13:51,545 we'd had 13 records in a row not doing that well at all, record-wise. 157 00:13:51,646 --> 00:13:55,015 So we released our last record, Spicks And Specks, in Australia, 158 00:13:55,116 --> 00:13:56,951 and we decided to go back to England. 159 00:13:57,052 --> 00:13:59,420 We didn't want to miss out on the mersey boom. 160 00:13:59,521 --> 00:14:01,455 We didn't know it was coming to an end. 161 00:14:01,556 --> 00:14:03,057 We were going to make a shock. 162 00:14:03,158 --> 00:14:06,594 - I was about 18. - maurice and I were 16. 163 00:14:06,695 --> 00:14:09,763 - Yeah. - We told our mother and father that. 164 00:14:09,865 --> 00:14:12,299 We remember that night as being fairly turbulent. 165 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,769 They weren't completely in agreement or in disagreement. 166 00:14:15,871 --> 00:14:17,938 So it was very difficult for mum and Dad to think, 167 00:14:18,039 --> 00:14:21,575 ''Hang on, we're going to have to give up making a living 168 00:14:21,676 --> 00:14:23,310 ''in order to take this chance... 169 00:14:23,411 --> 00:14:26,981 ''To get back on a ship and sail five more weeks 170 00:14:27,082 --> 00:14:29,183 ''back across the world to England 171 00:14:29,284 --> 00:14:31,886 ''on the chance that our three sons think 172 00:14:31,987 --> 00:14:34,488 ''they can be stars or be famous.'' 173 00:14:34,589 --> 00:14:38,125 But we told them, ''This is what we're going to do, mum and Dad.'' 174 00:14:38,226 --> 00:14:40,628 ''This is what we're going to do. And you've got to go with us. 175 00:14:40,729 --> 00:14:42,196 ''You've got to do this with us.'' 176 00:14:42,297 --> 00:14:43,631 We left, but a week out we found out 177 00:14:43,732 --> 00:14:46,934 that Spicks And Specks had gone to number one in Australia. 178 00:14:47,035 --> 00:14:50,905 It just blew us away, and we're a week out now. 179 00:14:51,006 --> 00:14:52,339 We're thinking, ''Great.'' 180 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,009 The only people who knew it were the rest of the Australians on board, 181 00:14:55,110 --> 00:14:57,344 going, ''Great, nice one, you got a number one.'' 182 00:14:57,445 --> 00:14:59,013 ''Yeah, great for us now.'' 183 00:14:59,547 --> 00:15:02,249 So we ended up going back. So we came back to England, 184 00:15:02,350 --> 00:15:04,985 and kissed the docks of Southampton when we got off. 185 00:15:05,086 --> 00:15:07,288 There was a pop group standing on the docks 186 00:15:07,389 --> 00:15:10,024 dressed like the Beatles were dressed in Help! 187 00:15:10,125 --> 00:15:14,061 And they said to us, ''Don't go any further, go back to Australia.'' 188 00:15:14,162 --> 00:15:18,999 ''Go back. Groups are dead. Clapton lives.'' 189 00:15:19,100 --> 00:15:21,835 - ''Groups are out...'' - ''Groups are out.'' 190 00:15:21,937 --> 00:15:28,008 And that became the main... the mantra that we heard no matter where we went, 191 00:15:28,109 --> 00:15:31,245 ''Groups are out. You haven't got a chance.'' 192 00:15:37,419 --> 00:15:41,422 We ended up in Hendon, in February of 1967, sleeping on floorboards 193 00:15:41,523 --> 00:15:44,291 with the dream of somebody discovering us. 194 00:15:44,392 --> 00:15:46,260 We'd been round to managers and they were all saying, 195 00:15:46,361 --> 00:15:48,462 ''Groups are out. It's all solo artists now.'' 196 00:15:48,563 --> 00:15:51,765 The comment that was made to us was, ''It's all Eric Clapton now.'' 197 00:15:51,866 --> 00:15:56,136 So, we got home and mum had said, ''A Mr. Stigweed called.'' 198 00:15:56,237 --> 00:15:57,905 We'd never heard of mr. Stigweed. 199 00:15:58,006 --> 00:16:00,140 When Dad returned the call, it was NEMS, 200 00:16:00,241 --> 00:16:01,842 which was Brian Epstein's organization. 201 00:16:01,943 --> 00:16:06,080 We sent tapes and records to the Beatles' manager Brian Epstein 202 00:16:06,181 --> 00:16:08,115 and his partner Robert Stigwood. 203 00:16:08,216 --> 00:16:10,851 We didn't know whether or not they would hear them. 204 00:16:10,952 --> 00:16:14,488 Robert Stigwood spoke to us. He had heard the tapes and he wanted... 205 00:16:14,589 --> 00:16:18,092 Brian had played the songs to him that we'd sent from Australia. 206 00:16:18,193 --> 00:16:22,129 He said, ''You write your own songs. I like what I hear. Can we do business?'' 207 00:16:22,230 --> 00:16:25,032 So, we go to the Saville Theatre in London. 208 00:16:25,133 --> 00:16:28,736 Robert came in supported by two gentlemen. 209 00:16:28,837 --> 00:16:32,639 He looked a bit weary-for-wear, and he'd had a late night, obviously. 210 00:16:32,741 --> 00:16:36,210 And we were still performing our nightclub act... 211 00:16:36,311 --> 00:16:38,479 Even the Peter, Paul And mary section. 212 00:16:38,580 --> 00:16:43,017 We did this whole act, and he said, ''Right, be in my office at five.'' 213 00:16:43,118 --> 00:16:45,853 Got up and staggered out. 214 00:16:45,954 --> 00:16:49,189 So we thought, ''OK... I wonder if he liked us?'' 215 00:16:49,290 --> 00:16:51,825 So, that afternoon we went in 216 00:16:51,926 --> 00:16:57,331 and then he offered us a five-year contract to be signed to NEMS. 217 00:16:57,432 --> 00:17:01,468 And I remember walking in there and we saw Ringo for the first time. 218 00:17:01,569 --> 00:17:03,737 We weren't full-fledged rock stars. 219 00:17:03,838 --> 00:17:06,707 We were a pop group and there was only three of us, 220 00:17:06,808 --> 00:17:08,442 so it wasn't really a band, 221 00:17:08,543 --> 00:17:12,312 and Robert Stigwood brought in Vince melouney and Colin Petersen 222 00:17:12,414 --> 00:17:13,647 to help us become a band. 223 00:17:13,748 --> 00:17:17,518 Two months after that, we were in the American Top 20 and the British Top 20 224 00:17:17,619 --> 00:17:20,621 with our first single, New York mining Disaster. 225 00:17:20,722 --> 00:17:24,525 Robert Stigwood was actually the champion in... 226 00:17:24,626 --> 00:17:28,228 and the jewel in our crown as far as our career goes, 227 00:17:28,329 --> 00:17:32,066 because if we hadn't met Robert at that particular time, 228 00:17:32,167 --> 00:17:34,201 I don't know which way we'd have gone. 229 00:18:13,975 --> 00:18:16,977 I remember doing the demo first of New York Mining Disaster. 230 00:18:17,078 --> 00:18:19,980 Robert thought it'd be a good idea before we actually go in and make the album, 231 00:18:20,081 --> 00:18:22,349 ''If you've got any more songs to write, go in and use the studio.'' 232 00:18:22,450 --> 00:18:25,352 To see what we'd written since what he had heard. 233 00:18:25,453 --> 00:18:27,921 And we came up with about eight to ten songs, 234 00:18:28,022 --> 00:18:31,558 and there was still that missing song that he thought he could turn into a hit. 235 00:18:31,659 --> 00:18:34,361 All of a sudden there was a blackout. We had no power. 236 00:18:34,462 --> 00:18:37,464 So we went outside, and while we were waiting for the power to come back on, 237 00:18:37,565 --> 00:18:40,267 in the area where the elevator goes down, 238 00:18:40,368 --> 00:18:43,270 there were steps on either side, we just sat on the steps 239 00:18:43,371 --> 00:18:45,706 and Barry was playing his guitar, and this was so echoey, 240 00:18:45,807 --> 00:18:48,775 a wonderful echo in this place, and it was like being in a mine. 241 00:19:04,392 --> 00:19:07,928 And the premise was the Aberfan mining disaster. 242 00:19:08,029 --> 00:19:09,730 It had broken everyone's heart. 243 00:19:09,831 --> 00:19:12,466 It was only six months before we wrote the song. 244 00:19:12,567 --> 00:19:16,136 Years later, we found out there was a New York mining disaster, 245 00:19:16,237 --> 00:19:18,872 in 1939, I think, in the state of New York. 246 00:19:28,249 --> 00:19:31,718 But that was just the title. A lot of people referred to it as mr. Jones. 247 00:19:31,819 --> 00:19:33,820 ''Have you seen my wife, mr. Jones?'' 248 00:19:38,393 --> 00:19:42,563 But that was the birth of that, the total echo effect, the hauntingness of it. 249 00:19:42,664 --> 00:19:45,365 But it also started us writing about drama 250 00:19:45,466 --> 00:19:48,936 and pulled us away from the Beatles Me To You syndrome. 251 00:19:49,037 --> 00:19:52,206 And, like them, we started writing in abstraction, 252 00:19:52,307 --> 00:19:55,709 we started writing about situations and characters. 253 00:20:24,906 --> 00:20:26,640 We were working at IBC Studios, 254 00:20:26,741 --> 00:20:29,409 which was the place where the Beatles used to record, 255 00:20:29,510 --> 00:20:32,246 - I believe, up to Abbey Road. - Yeah. 256 00:20:32,347 --> 00:20:35,716 And, on its own stage, there was the mellotron. 257 00:20:35,817 --> 00:20:39,987 And for the first time in our lives, we'd ever seen a Mellotron. 258 00:20:40,088 --> 00:20:44,057 Well, Maurice, of course, was immediately on the mellotron 259 00:20:44,158 --> 00:20:48,562 and the song Every Christian Lion Hearted man came from that sound, 260 00:20:48,663 --> 00:20:51,298 and that was on the Bee Gees' first album. 261 00:20:51,399 --> 00:20:55,235 But we were in the same studio and we were in the same space. 262 00:22:02,070 --> 00:22:04,905 Robert allowed us to do what we wanted to do. 263 00:22:05,006 --> 00:22:08,175 He put us in the studio with great engineers, 264 00:22:08,276 --> 00:22:12,379 knowing our voices, and knowing what we liked to do and knowing our level, 265 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,383 where we'd reached experimentally, where we were gonna move from there. 266 00:22:16,484 --> 00:22:20,020 And we would do that, and Robert allowed us to do that. 267 00:22:43,778 --> 00:22:47,080 And at the end of a week, he would come into the studio 268 00:22:47,181 --> 00:22:49,015 and listen to what we'd done. 269 00:22:49,117 --> 00:22:51,051 He wouldn't say, ''Do this'' or ''Do that.'' 270 00:22:51,152 --> 00:22:53,186 He would just listen to what we'd done. 271 00:22:57,558 --> 00:22:59,393 And his opinion would be, 272 00:22:59,494 --> 00:23:02,462 ''Yes, OK, but maybe this needs that or this needs that.'' 273 00:23:02,563 --> 00:23:05,065 Or the opposing opinion would be, ''Stupendous.'' 274 00:23:05,166 --> 00:23:06,833 But he was always right. 275 00:23:38,433 --> 00:23:40,300 We remember a time at 2am, 276 00:23:40,401 --> 00:23:43,904 Robert had come in and To Love Somebody was playing, 277 00:23:44,005 --> 00:23:46,106 and he would call up New York 278 00:23:46,207 --> 00:23:51,244 and play it in the speaker to Ahmet Ertegun, the head of Atlantic Records. 279 00:23:51,345 --> 00:23:56,450 Down the phone. ''Listen to this. This is their next single.'' 280 00:24:14,902 --> 00:24:16,570 And that's how it was done. 281 00:24:16,671 --> 00:24:19,573 It was very organic, it was very gut instincts. 282 00:24:19,674 --> 00:24:22,275 It's so different to the way things are done now. 283 00:24:22,376 --> 00:24:24,911 What was really fantastic about that first year 284 00:24:25,012 --> 00:24:29,049 is that New York mining Disaster and then To Love Somebody 285 00:24:29,150 --> 00:24:32,152 were charting in the American Top 20, which, you know... 286 00:24:32,253 --> 00:24:34,888 which was very unusual even by today's standards 287 00:24:34,989 --> 00:24:37,057 for first-time records and British artists. 288 00:24:37,158 --> 00:24:41,194 That was due to Robert Stigwood and Ahmet Ertegun working together. 289 00:24:41,295 --> 00:24:44,564 We had the NEMS team. We had the Beatles' team behind us. 290 00:24:44,665 --> 00:24:46,433 That's what kicked it all off for us. 291 00:24:46,534 --> 00:24:49,336 To crack America was the ultimate dream. 292 00:24:49,437 --> 00:24:52,405 You've got to remember, when you're from that generation of kids 293 00:24:52,507 --> 00:24:55,375 growing up in Liverpool or manchester, or wherever, 294 00:24:55,476 --> 00:24:57,310 America's pavements are gold. 295 00:24:57,411 --> 00:25:00,947 Everything is two cars per family, huge houses. 296 00:25:01,048 --> 00:25:07,621 I mean, television like, five, ten channels, you know? We had two. 297 00:25:24,305 --> 00:25:26,573 To Love Somebody started with Otis Redding. 298 00:25:26,674 --> 00:25:30,043 Barry and Robin wrote that with Otis in mind 299 00:25:30,144 --> 00:25:33,179 in hope that we could get it to him to record. 300 00:25:33,281 --> 00:25:35,682 We were going to do it anyway, but we felt like, 301 00:25:35,783 --> 00:25:39,319 ''Wouldn't it be great if Otis Redding could sing this?'' 302 00:25:49,630 --> 00:25:53,500 We were influenced a lot in our writing in those days, even today sometimes, 303 00:25:53,601 --> 00:25:57,737 by the artists that were around us, of, ''Who could do this song?'' 304 00:25:57,838 --> 00:26:00,740 We'd write the Beatles' new record, the Rolling Stones' new record, 305 00:26:00,841 --> 00:26:03,276 the Hollies' new record, whatever groups that were out there. 306 00:26:03,377 --> 00:26:06,546 ''What would they release?'' And we'd sing it and it would be us. 307 00:26:06,647 --> 00:26:09,616 I think our career's built out of jealousy and envy. 308 00:26:09,717 --> 00:26:11,718 ''We gotta beat that.'' It's not a bad thing. 309 00:26:11,819 --> 00:26:14,621 It was a sense of desperate need to be acknowledged. 310 00:26:14,722 --> 00:26:17,090 And when anyone rejected what we were doing, 311 00:26:17,191 --> 00:26:18,525 that would make us work harder. 312 00:26:18,626 --> 00:26:21,828 Because we felt that we could do something better. 313 00:26:21,929 --> 00:26:23,396 ''Let's try and beat that one.'' 314 00:26:36,310 --> 00:26:39,245 Tonight, massachusetts f rom the Bee Gees! 315 00:26:41,849 --> 00:26:44,417 I remember doing Top Of The Pops for the first time. 316 00:26:44,518 --> 00:26:46,553 It was a great dream, because that's the show to do. 317 00:26:46,654 --> 00:26:49,055 You're made if you do Top Of The Pops. 318 00:27:22,990 --> 00:27:26,426 There became a melodramatic element in our songs 319 00:27:26,527 --> 00:27:29,229 as opposed to an up, celebration type record. 320 00:27:29,330 --> 00:27:30,997 massachusetts was like that. 321 00:27:31,098 --> 00:27:33,733 We began to love melodrama, and we began to love 322 00:27:33,834 --> 00:27:36,369 what the Beatles were doing with orchestras. 323 00:27:36,470 --> 00:27:38,438 We began to recognize that a f ull orchestra 324 00:27:38,539 --> 00:27:41,841 was just as important to rock-'n'-roll as an electric guitar was. 325 00:28:01,362 --> 00:28:03,430 It was the f irst time we'd ever had a number one record. 326 00:28:03,531 --> 00:28:05,799 I remember being told massachusetts was number one. 327 00:28:05,900 --> 00:28:07,801 We did such a bad show that night. 328 00:28:07,902 --> 00:28:11,738 We were in one of those places up north where they had the... 329 00:28:11,839 --> 00:28:15,575 the turning stage that goes around, the revolving stage. 330 00:28:15,676 --> 00:28:19,579 We're on the other side getting ready, plugging in and getting set up. 331 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,083 Dick runs up and goes, ''massachusetts has just gone to number one.'' 332 00:28:23,184 --> 00:28:26,086 ''What?'' And we all looked at each other. 333 00:28:26,187 --> 00:28:28,521 ''Oh, my God, it's number one.'' And just as that happened, 334 00:28:28,622 --> 00:28:31,591 the stage started going round, and we weren't all plugged in or set up. 335 00:28:31,692 --> 00:28:35,128 We just started the show and we sang what the hell we wanted to. We couldn't believe it. 336 00:28:35,229 --> 00:28:37,797 We were so over the moon, we thought we could get away with murder. 337 00:28:37,898 --> 00:28:39,532 To have a number one in England, 338 00:28:39,633 --> 00:28:42,669 you have no idea how much we'd dreamed of this in Australia, 339 00:28:42,770 --> 00:28:45,805 to have a number one in the UK charts. 340 00:28:45,906 --> 00:28:47,741 We felt like we'd arrived. 341 00:28:55,282 --> 00:28:58,952 The Bee Gees, the most exciting sound in the world. 342 00:29:27,848 --> 00:29:31,618 We were very, very ambitious and we were very anxious to make our mark. 343 00:29:31,719 --> 00:29:35,054 If it was a choice between partying and being in the studio, 344 00:29:35,156 --> 00:29:37,190 it was definitely gonna be the studio. 345 00:29:37,291 --> 00:29:39,292 It wasn't about having a good time, 346 00:29:39,393 --> 00:29:41,661 a good time to us was being in the studio. 347 00:29:41,762 --> 00:29:44,030 - A good time to us was a good woman. - Yes. 348 00:29:44,131 --> 00:29:48,034 And in those days the idea of women crept into our lives. 349 00:29:48,135 --> 00:29:50,170 - And... up to that point... - Still is. 350 00:29:50,271 --> 00:29:52,238 Yeah, and... 351 00:29:52,339 --> 00:29:55,141 Up to that point, women had not. 352 00:29:55,242 --> 00:29:57,844 It began in Australia just before we left, 353 00:29:58,979 --> 00:30:02,382 that women became a sort of ... 354 00:30:02,483 --> 00:30:03,850 music, women. 355 00:30:03,951 --> 00:30:08,788 So women became a conf liction between the two subjects. 356 00:30:08,889 --> 00:30:10,990 It was going out with a girl or writing a song 357 00:30:11,091 --> 00:30:13,626 or it was being a group or going out with a girl. 358 00:30:13,727 --> 00:30:16,930 So we began to f all in love. We began to have girlf riends. 359 00:30:17,031 --> 00:30:21,768 Actually, you need that to be an artist, to get that extra sentiment. 360 00:30:21,869 --> 00:30:24,404 So, suddenly, we were no longer kids. 361 00:31:15,089 --> 00:31:18,191 There was a lot of hits in that short time. All the things were happening. 362 00:31:18,292 --> 00:31:20,593 There was a lot of money all of a sudden, and cars, 363 00:31:20,694 --> 00:31:23,296 and girlf riends, and love interests were happening, 364 00:31:23,397 --> 00:31:26,766 and jealousies were happening, so, the drink came more. 365 00:31:26,867 --> 00:31:28,201 The money became more. 366 00:31:28,302 --> 00:31:31,537 And when you're 18, 19 years of age, 367 00:31:31,639 --> 00:31:34,140 and after all the work we had done, through clubs and everything, 368 00:31:34,241 --> 00:31:37,043 I felt grown up, I felt like I'd been through the mill. 369 00:31:48,722 --> 00:31:52,992 In 1967 we became members of a club called the Speakeasy 370 00:31:53,093 --> 00:31:55,028 which was an underground club 371 00:31:55,129 --> 00:31:58,665 which was only f or the Beatles and the Stones and the Who 372 00:31:58,766 --> 00:32:02,902 and Otis Redding and Sam & Dave... 373 00:32:03,003 --> 00:32:08,074 Yeah, Ahmet Ertegun and Robert and Brian Epstein. 374 00:32:08,175 --> 00:32:11,377 It was virtually a closed club. 375 00:32:11,478 --> 00:32:15,815 You went downstairs and there was a coffin, 376 00:32:15,916 --> 00:32:17,984 and if you were allowed in, 377 00:32:18,085 --> 00:32:22,322 if you were somebody they knew and you were supposed to go in, 378 00:32:22,423 --> 00:32:26,459 the wall would turn round and the coffin would turn round. 379 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,729 And in you would go, and there'd be George Best playing the machines 380 00:32:29,830 --> 00:32:34,133 and the Stones would be lying around all over the place. 381 00:32:34,234 --> 00:32:36,302 - And... - Great days. 382 00:32:36,403 --> 00:32:41,240 It was one of those days that I met John Lennon f rom the back. 383 00:32:41,342 --> 00:32:43,176 I never met John Lennon f rom the f ront. 384 00:32:49,717 --> 00:32:53,052 It was Pete Townshend who introduced me to John Lennon 385 00:32:53,153 --> 00:32:57,857 and what I remember is, ''Barry, I'd like you to meet John Lennon.'' 386 00:32:57,958 --> 00:33:00,360 ''John Lennon, pleased to meet you.'' 387 00:33:01,462 --> 00:33:04,197 And carried on talking to somebody else. 388 00:33:04,298 --> 00:33:07,500 So I thought to myself, ''Well, I've met John Lennon.'' 389 00:33:07,601 --> 00:33:11,204 I had John Lennon's black-windowed mini Cooper S. I bought that car off him. 390 00:33:11,305 --> 00:33:14,640 And so I was involved, I became part of the inner circle of all those guys, 391 00:33:14,742 --> 00:33:18,244 and I was going to parties and the magical mystery Tour and... 392 00:33:18,345 --> 00:33:20,079 it was like a wild world f or me. 393 00:33:20,180 --> 00:33:24,017 When you think that f ive months before all this was going on, 394 00:33:24,118 --> 00:33:27,286 I was in Pitt Street buying the Beatle Fan Club book, 395 00:33:27,388 --> 00:33:32,625 the same time, and now here I am partying with these guys, my heroes. 396 00:33:33,027 --> 00:33:35,094 Let's have a wonderfully warm reception 397 00:33:35,195 --> 00:33:39,198 f or the attractive Bee Gees and soloist Barry Gibb. 398 00:34:13,434 --> 00:34:16,035 - We did Ed Sullivan. - Dick Cavett and mike Douglas. 399 00:34:16,136 --> 00:34:19,505 - Merv Griffin. - Johnny Carson. 400 00:34:19,606 --> 00:34:23,342 We did eleven Johnny Carson shows over the years. 401 00:34:23,444 --> 00:34:26,946 There wasn't any decisive point where we moved to America, 402 00:34:27,047 --> 00:34:30,616 because it was an international scene f rom 1967 onwards. 403 00:34:30,717 --> 00:34:33,286 Wherever you were based, you had to go to America. 404 00:34:33,387 --> 00:34:35,521 - It was England or America. - Yeah. 405 00:34:35,622 --> 00:34:36,989 It had to be one of the two. 406 00:34:37,091 --> 00:34:40,359 No other country in the world could give you international f ame. 407 00:35:19,933 --> 00:35:23,236 It's hard to speak about Odessa in any coherent way, 408 00:35:23,337 --> 00:35:27,373 because it wasn't actually a planned album, it was just a collection of songs. 409 00:35:27,474 --> 00:35:29,542 We thought we were going to do a concept album... 410 00:35:29,643 --> 00:35:30,910 Yeah. Because of Tommy 411 00:35:31,011 --> 00:35:35,114 and because of Robert's connection to these types of things, 412 00:35:35,215 --> 00:35:36,782 he wanted us to do a rock opera. 413 00:35:36,884 --> 00:35:39,218 And we wanted to put it on the stage. 414 00:35:39,319 --> 00:35:44,190 And instead of writing a rock opera, we just came up with a mish-mash. 415 00:35:44,291 --> 00:35:47,026 We just came up with a bunch of songs 416 00:35:47,127 --> 00:35:49,762 that we thought we were going somewhere with, 417 00:35:49,863 --> 00:35:51,931 but I think we were extremely weary. 418 00:35:52,032 --> 00:35:54,967 I think even at such a young age, 419 00:35:55,068 --> 00:35:57,570 we'd been through quite a number of albums very quickly. 420 00:35:57,671 --> 00:36:01,340 We could no longer deal with each other, could no longer deal with each other. 421 00:36:01,441 --> 00:36:03,943 And...the three of us drifted apart. 422 00:36:04,044 --> 00:36:07,146 In f act, I'd say the f our of us drifted apart, including Robert. 423 00:36:07,247 --> 00:36:10,149 - Robert went off to make his movies... - There were distractions. 424 00:36:10,250 --> 00:36:13,953 All the distractions that success brings for someone like him. 425 00:36:14,054 --> 00:36:19,058 And so, we...we let that lie. 426 00:36:19,159 --> 00:36:22,094 That album never really got f inished, never really got f inished. 427 00:36:22,196 --> 00:36:26,432 Everyone was doing real well, and there was the jealousy thing going on. 428 00:36:26,533 --> 00:36:28,834 What happened is First Of may, the record, 429 00:36:28,936 --> 00:36:31,737 was coming out, and everybody went f or First Of may 430 00:36:31,838 --> 00:36:34,373 as the A-side, and Barry was singing the lead on that. 431 00:36:34,474 --> 00:36:37,376 On the other side was Lamplight, with Robin singing lead, 432 00:36:37,477 --> 00:36:39,812 and everybody thought Lamplight should be the single. 433 00:36:39,913 --> 00:36:43,716 Robert chose First Of May and, thinking he was biased towards Barry, 434 00:36:43,817 --> 00:36:47,453 Robin said, ''I've had it.'' He thought it was done on purpose. 435 00:36:47,554 --> 00:36:50,356 And f ollowing that, I think we went through 436 00:36:50,457 --> 00:36:55,194 about two or three years of being unable to communicate, 437 00:36:55,295 --> 00:36:59,031 being unable to be brothers or friends or...unable. 438 00:36:59,132 --> 00:37:01,133 We've heard rumors that the group is splitting up. 439 00:37:01,235 --> 00:37:02,668 Would you like to verify those rumors? 440 00:37:02,769 --> 00:37:06,005 If I were to say that was true, then I would be the premier of Russia. 441 00:37:06,106 --> 00:37:10,009 Then Robin decided to leave, while we were doing the Cucumber Castle f ilm. 442 00:37:33,567 --> 00:37:37,703 Then Barry left after that and I was all of a sudden The Bee Gee. 443 00:37:37,804 --> 00:37:41,774 But it was all part and parcel, that part of it, we had to go through all that crap 444 00:37:41,875 --> 00:37:44,810 'cause, you must remember, we'd been together f or so long 445 00:37:44,911 --> 00:37:49,649 by the time we were 19, 20, 21 , it's like, ''We need a break.'' 446 00:37:49,750 --> 00:37:52,585 We'd been together since Robin and I were f ive, singing. 447 00:37:52,686 --> 00:37:56,656 I don't think there was actually a design in the breakup in itself . 448 00:37:56,757 --> 00:38:00,059 We just wandered off and... It was a crazy period. 449 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,329 We didn't know what we were each doing unless we read the trades. 450 00:38:03,430 --> 00:38:06,532 We sort of tried to get together, but every time we tried, 451 00:38:06,633 --> 00:38:08,234 we knew it was the wrong time. 452 00:38:08,335 --> 00:38:11,203 It was inevitable that this would happen, 453 00:38:11,305 --> 00:38:13,372 it was something that was growing anyway. 454 00:38:13,473 --> 00:38:15,341 But being young, you don't know how to handle it. 455 00:38:15,442 --> 00:38:19,512 We were excited. We were very high on ourselves, and it was a dream come true. 456 00:38:19,613 --> 00:38:22,682 Yeah. I mean, I had seven Aston martins 457 00:38:22,783 --> 00:38:25,084 and six Rolls-Royces before I was 21 . 458 00:38:25,952 --> 00:38:29,288 I don't know where they are now, but that's how crazy it was. 459 00:38:29,389 --> 00:38:32,591 The ''f irst-fame'' syndrome, we call it, when you go through that, 460 00:38:32,693 --> 00:38:34,460 and if you survive it, it's great. 461 00:38:34,561 --> 00:38:38,764 We had the f oresight and strength to say, ''This is stupid, let's get back together.'' 462 00:38:38,865 --> 00:38:43,235 The f irst time we got together after the breakup was Addison Road in Kensington. 463 00:38:43,337 --> 00:38:45,971 How Can You mend A Broken Heart and Lonely Days. 464 00:38:46,073 --> 00:38:47,707 That, basically, is the story, 465 00:38:47,808 --> 00:38:51,410 because How Can You mend A Broken Heart really does reflect how we felt. 466 00:38:51,511 --> 00:38:52,745 Yeah. 467 00:40:01,314 --> 00:40:03,015 We had about 15 months apart. 468 00:40:03,116 --> 00:40:07,653 I ended up doing a musical, but it was a very strange situation. 469 00:40:07,754 --> 00:40:10,222 Barry had left and the group was over. 470 00:40:12,893 --> 00:40:17,930 But what happened is that Robin had called him and said, ''Let's get together and talk.'' 471 00:40:18,031 --> 00:40:19,565 We eventually did. 472 00:40:19,666 --> 00:40:23,002 I remember the time that Robert Stigwood's company was going public, 473 00:40:23,103 --> 00:40:24,870 and the three of us were in this room, 474 00:40:24,971 --> 00:40:27,506 I had my lawyer, Robin had his lawyer, Barry had his lawyer, 475 00:40:27,607 --> 00:40:30,242 and all we were talking about is what we can do together, 476 00:40:30,343 --> 00:40:32,011 when the lawyers were thinking about, 477 00:40:32,112 --> 00:40:36,315 ''I represent my client privately and separately f rom the others.'' 478 00:40:36,416 --> 00:40:39,418 And the three of us were planning our next album. 479 00:40:39,519 --> 00:40:41,921 And no one knew about it, in the room. 480 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,014 It was nervous working together again 481 00:41:09,115 --> 00:41:12,117 and getting used to each other again, the writing process. 482 00:41:12,219 --> 00:41:14,820 Lonely Days was an instrumental I was playing on the piano. 483 00:41:14,921 --> 00:41:17,189 Barry and Robin came round, and we started singing it, 484 00:41:17,290 --> 00:41:21,026 and before we knew it, the song was taking shape. 485 00:41:55,862 --> 00:42:00,032 So, those f irst times together, we knew it was inevitable. 486 00:42:00,133 --> 00:42:04,136 Look what we've done in these few days we've been together. 487 00:42:22,956 --> 00:42:24,823 I felt like we'd never done it before. 488 00:42:24,925 --> 00:42:26,725 We were like new. It was, like, f resh. 489 00:42:26,826 --> 00:42:30,663 The energy that each one had on expressing what they'd learnt by being apart, 490 00:42:30,764 --> 00:42:32,464 it all came out in that week. 491 00:42:32,566 --> 00:42:35,034 And it was brilliant. It was a wonderful session, wonderful. 492 00:42:35,135 --> 00:42:37,403 Thank you all very much and good evening. 493 00:44:20,774 --> 00:44:22,074 How does a song get written? 494 00:44:22,175 --> 00:44:26,545 It's usually one person who will walk into the studio or the room and say, 495 00:44:26,646 --> 00:44:28,914 ''I've got an idea f or a song.'' 496 00:44:31,918 --> 00:44:34,987 And any one of us would play that idea, 497 00:44:35,088 --> 00:44:38,157 and if everyone looked at each other and went, 498 00:44:38,258 --> 00:44:41,160 ''OK, this can go somewhere, this could be something...'' 499 00:44:41,261 --> 00:44:43,829 Many times, Barry will have an idea f or a song, 500 00:44:43,930 --> 00:44:48,000 and I'll have an idea for song, and we'll put them together and marry them. 501 00:44:48,101 --> 00:44:50,936 - And marry the two songs. - And it'll become one song. 502 00:44:51,037 --> 00:44:53,872 So, Run To Me was a f orm of two songs. 503 00:45:13,827 --> 00:45:16,662 So, we would play that kind of game, that two songs can become one, 504 00:45:16,763 --> 00:45:19,531 and that collaboration is what creates a great song. 505 00:45:19,632 --> 00:45:23,001 One person writing a song, on their own, 506 00:45:23,103 --> 00:45:25,170 is a tremendously lonely game. 507 00:45:30,577 --> 00:45:32,478 We all become one mind. 508 00:45:32,579 --> 00:45:34,179 That's what we automatically all do. 509 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,181 And we've been doing that f or years. 510 00:45:36,282 --> 00:45:38,684 So I don't know how we do it, but it just happens that way. 511 00:45:38,785 --> 00:45:41,353 I call it the greatest f orm of meditation you could ever have, 512 00:45:41,454 --> 00:45:44,223 when the three of us are in the room, when we're doing the music, 513 00:45:44,324 --> 00:45:47,726 and I'm playing, and we usually write the lyrics after we write the melody 514 00:45:47,827 --> 00:45:51,196 and we have the mics on and we just sit there and create. 515 00:45:51,297 --> 00:45:53,832 You're not concentrating on anything else 516 00:45:53,933 --> 00:45:57,569 but what's happening right now, and that's a trip on its own. 517 00:45:57,670 --> 00:45:59,505 It's wonderful when you hear it taking shape. 518 00:45:59,606 --> 00:46:03,909 And I may go somewhere, and Barry, ''Yes, yes, go play there, go there.'' 519 00:46:04,010 --> 00:46:05,778 And I go, ''Yes, go there.'' 520 00:46:05,879 --> 00:46:09,715 We'll wake each other's little instincts up and the melodies come. 521 00:46:09,816 --> 00:46:15,254 Maurice was either guitar, piano and some f orm of stimulating sound. 522 00:46:15,355 --> 00:46:19,391 I'm Mr. Fix-It. Still comes from where I've always been in the middle 523 00:46:19,492 --> 00:46:21,426 of some discrepancy between Barry and Robin 524 00:46:21,528 --> 00:46:24,496 or if we're gonna make a decision, ''What does maurice think?'' 525 00:46:24,597 --> 00:46:27,099 I become the deciding vote, if you like. 526 00:46:29,002 --> 00:46:32,871 After Run To me, we went into a valley, totally. Our career was in a valley. 527 00:46:32,972 --> 00:46:36,575 No record company wanted us, management didn't want us, nothing. 528 00:46:36,676 --> 00:46:39,077 At the end of every decade, there's a tendency 529 00:46:39,179 --> 00:46:42,114 that the business tries to reject artists from the last decade. 530 00:46:42,215 --> 00:46:44,950 So, you know, you're either the artist of the '60s, 531 00:46:45,051 --> 00:46:47,719 or an artist of the '70s, or an artist of the '80s. 532 00:46:47,821 --> 00:46:49,988 And it still goes on now. 533 00:46:50,089 --> 00:46:56,728 And so, we were suddenly out of f avor by the beginning of the '70s. 534 00:46:56,830 --> 00:46:59,031 You think it's gonna last f orever and it doesn't. 535 00:46:59,132 --> 00:47:01,667 And that's when the s**** hits the proverbial fan. 536 00:47:01,768 --> 00:47:05,204 Because all of a sudden, you turn to maybe drinking a bit with your f riends. 537 00:47:05,305 --> 00:47:07,639 ''Oh, you'll do it again.'' Then you turn to drugs. 538 00:47:07,740 --> 00:47:11,109 Before you know it, you're on a collision course with death. That's it. 539 00:47:11,211 --> 00:47:14,913 And to us, we thought, ''Well, maybe that's it. 540 00:47:15,014 --> 00:47:17,516 ''maybe that was our career.'' 541 00:47:17,617 --> 00:47:20,686 Oh, yeah. I mean your ego is deflated enormously. 542 00:47:20,787 --> 00:47:24,423 But that was meant to be too. I mean, it wasn't good stuff. It was OK. 543 00:47:24,524 --> 00:47:26,425 We were trying to be very experimental. 544 00:47:26,526 --> 00:47:29,194 Sly And The Family Stone were huge with hits and... 545 00:47:29,295 --> 00:47:32,764 It was a different kind of period, it was like early disco, or something, 546 00:47:32,866 --> 00:47:35,033 there was something going on that was really strange. 547 00:47:35,134 --> 00:47:36,602 And we just were off the mark. 548 00:47:36,703 --> 00:47:40,839 We were so off the mark we released an album, To Whom It May Concern, 549 00:47:40,940 --> 00:47:43,642 because we didn't know who the hell was gonna buy it. 550 00:47:43,743 --> 00:47:47,679 I mean, that's how totally, ''Where are we going?'' 551 00:48:12,939 --> 00:48:15,974 We needed to have bigger records than we were having. 552 00:48:16,075 --> 00:48:18,710 We weren't moving that well at all. 553 00:48:19,512 --> 00:48:21,680 Robert had become acquainted with Arif Mardin, 554 00:48:21,781 --> 00:48:24,483 who had done some of the Aretha Franklin early records, 555 00:48:24,584 --> 00:48:26,752 and suggested that we explore those roots, 556 00:48:26,853 --> 00:48:30,389 which is how we ended up doing mr. Natural with Arif . 557 00:48:34,694 --> 00:48:37,529 Arif was so instrumental in producing black artists. 558 00:48:37,630 --> 00:48:41,033 He produced a lot of people, and we wanted that input. 559 00:49:26,713 --> 00:49:29,114 - We always loved black music. - Yeah. 560 00:49:29,215 --> 00:49:32,784 Always, even in the '60s, it was just ways of ... 561 00:49:34,220 --> 00:49:37,522 - Sam Cooke and Otis Redding - Otis Redding, Wilson Picket. 562 00:49:37,623 --> 00:49:40,592 The inf luences had been there, we just explored them more. 563 00:49:40,693 --> 00:49:44,696 We felt it was a time we needed, and Arif was the ideal tool. 564 00:49:44,797 --> 00:49:46,264 He encouraged, more so. 565 00:49:46,366 --> 00:49:50,969 That's when, as I said, f or To Whom It May Concern we had no direction. 566 00:49:51,070 --> 00:49:53,105 Arif went, ''This is the way you go.'' 567 00:49:53,206 --> 00:49:55,340 Yes, we'd given up on the psychedelia. 568 00:49:55,441 --> 00:49:59,644 We'd given up on, ''Everyone has to be like the Beatles in order to succeed.'' 569 00:49:59,746 --> 00:50:02,514 We thought we were on the right track, we thought we were doing the right things. 570 00:50:02,615 --> 00:50:05,384 We were moving into that R&B vein, 571 00:50:05,485 --> 00:50:07,452 but we weren't really succeeding. 572 00:50:07,553 --> 00:50:09,988 mr. Natural was a total disaster, 573 00:50:10,089 --> 00:50:15,127 but it was like a rehearsal f or main Course, working with Arif f or the f irst time. 574 00:50:15,228 --> 00:50:17,529 Fortunately f or us, Arif said, 575 00:50:17,630 --> 00:50:20,932 ''Well, this was a good start, let's do another album.'' 576 00:50:21,034 --> 00:50:25,003 And we didn't expect that, and... 577 00:50:25,104 --> 00:50:28,106 That was the opening of 461 Ocean Boulevard, isn't it? 578 00:50:28,207 --> 00:50:30,142 And that's when Eric Clapton said, 579 00:50:30,243 --> 00:50:33,011 ''I've just done this album called 461 Ocean Boulevard. 580 00:50:33,112 --> 00:50:35,647 ''Why don't you go and rent the same house 581 00:50:35,748 --> 00:50:37,783 ''and record in America instead of England 582 00:50:37,884 --> 00:50:40,152 ''and see what that does f or you spiritually?'' 583 00:50:40,253 --> 00:50:44,222 He said, ''It really worked f or me. I feel like a totally different artist 584 00:50:44,323 --> 00:50:48,026 ''having moved away f rom that whole English syndrome.'' 585 00:50:56,269 --> 00:50:59,771 When we got to Miami, all of a sudden, sunshine. 586 00:50:59,872 --> 00:51:02,974 This is paradise compared to where we just came f rom. 587 00:51:03,076 --> 00:51:06,511 And we got Arif Mardin because we wanted Arif after mr. Natural. 588 00:51:06,612 --> 00:51:09,081 When we worked with him on main Course, he knew us, 589 00:51:09,182 --> 00:51:11,416 and he brought out the best in every one of us. 590 00:51:11,517 --> 00:51:15,153 He taught me bass I didn't know I could play. That's how much I admire that man. 591 00:51:15,254 --> 00:51:17,923 He wouldn't play himself . Brilliant pianist. 592 00:51:18,024 --> 00:51:20,625 But he didn't believe in playing on his own records. 593 00:51:20,726 --> 00:51:24,296 He would come up with these little things, suggest them to the band... 594 00:51:24,397 --> 00:51:26,364 He was like a little boy, wasn't he? His enthusiasm. 595 00:51:26,466 --> 00:51:28,667 Working with the band. 596 00:51:28,768 --> 00:51:31,269 Arif knew exactly where we needed to go. 597 00:51:31,370 --> 00:51:34,206 He taught us everything we know about production. 598 00:51:34,307 --> 00:51:36,441 He'd been a great teacher, great mentor. 599 00:51:36,542 --> 00:51:41,847 We spent about three or f our weeks writing about three or four songs that were... 600 00:51:41,948 --> 00:51:43,582 three of which were rejected 601 00:51:43,683 --> 00:51:46,418 and one which was accepted, which was called Wind Of Change. 602 00:51:46,519 --> 00:51:49,654 When it came to dubbing the bass on Wind of Change, I came in, 603 00:51:49,755 --> 00:51:53,058 and Arif said ''OK?'' I said, ''Yep.'' So, we started the track 604 00:51:53,159 --> 00:51:56,428 and I did one take, and he went, ''Wonderful,'' 605 00:51:56,529 --> 00:52:00,699 without changing a part, and I said, ''You don't want to change this?'' 606 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,902 He said, ''No, that was brilliant. Wonderful.'' 607 00:52:04,003 --> 00:52:05,937 And I knew I'd made it in his eyes, 608 00:52:06,038 --> 00:52:08,373 because he never told me to change anything. 609 00:52:08,474 --> 00:52:12,344 Because of what he taught me, f rom all the previous tracks I'd played bass on, 610 00:52:12,445 --> 00:52:15,680 I was with him, I was behind the beat. 611 00:52:15,781 --> 00:52:18,583 He was going, ''Great, great.'' 612 00:52:18,684 --> 00:52:22,087 And I was chuffed. I went home laughing my head off. 613 00:52:22,188 --> 00:52:25,223 I couldn't believe it. I'd played the way he loved it. 614 00:52:36,402 --> 00:52:38,336 The next thing after Wind Of Change 615 00:52:38,437 --> 00:52:42,107 was Nights On Broadway, 'cause Ahmet said, ''I want more like that.'' 616 00:53:44,337 --> 00:53:47,606 And so, Nights On Broadway, or rather Lights On Broadway, 617 00:53:47,707 --> 00:53:49,307 which is what it was called in the f irst place, 618 00:53:49,408 --> 00:53:51,610 became the second accepted track, 619 00:53:51,711 --> 00:53:53,545 and it just moved on f rom there. 620 00:53:53,646 --> 00:53:57,349 Jive Talkin' happened during the middle of the sessions 621 00:53:57,450 --> 00:54:00,485 when we were driving home one night over a bridge. 622 00:54:00,586 --> 00:54:04,889 I just remember going in the car and hearing this... 623 00:54:04,991 --> 00:54:07,259 every time we crossed this bridge. 624 00:54:13,299 --> 00:54:17,469 And Barry had noticed it and he was going... 625 00:54:17,570 --> 00:54:20,238 Thinking of the dance. ''You dance with your eyes.'' 626 00:54:20,339 --> 00:54:22,974 That's all he had. And we were going... 627 00:54:25,111 --> 00:54:27,946 At exactly 35 miles an hour, that's what we got. 628 00:54:46,999 --> 00:54:49,000 We played it to Arif , and he went, 629 00:54:49,101 --> 00:54:51,069 ''Do you know what jive talkin' means?'' 630 00:54:51,170 --> 00:54:54,606 And we said, ''Well, yeah. It's, you know, you're dancing.'' 631 00:54:54,707 --> 00:54:59,778 He says, ''No.'' I'm putting on this Turkish accent because this is how he talks. 632 00:54:59,879 --> 00:55:03,548 And he says, ''No. It's a black expression f or bull****ing'' 633 00:55:03,649 --> 00:55:05,317 And we went, ''Oh, really?'' 634 00:55:05,418 --> 00:55:09,654 ''Jive talkin', you're telling me lies...'' and changed it. 635 00:55:13,159 --> 00:55:17,228 But he gave us the groove, the tempo, everything. He said, ''This is your groove.'' 636 00:55:17,330 --> 00:55:20,365 Because we were English, we were less self -conscious 637 00:55:20,466 --> 00:55:22,434 about exploring the no-go areas 638 00:55:22,535 --> 00:55:25,537 that a lot of American artists and groups would have done. 639 00:55:25,638 --> 00:55:27,806 Especially white ones. They were always saying, 640 00:55:27,907 --> 00:55:30,809 ''Don't go in the black area. You've got to be, you know...'' 641 00:55:30,910 --> 00:55:32,777 If you were white, you just stayed out. 642 00:55:32,878 --> 00:55:36,047 People were scared that, if they did, they would make f ools of themselves. 643 00:55:36,148 --> 00:55:37,982 But we did it because we were serious about it. 644 00:55:38,084 --> 00:55:41,353 We didn't think that there was any no-go areas. It was music. 645 00:55:51,997 --> 00:55:54,866 Robert Stigwood wanted Jive Talkin' as the f irst single 646 00:55:54,967 --> 00:55:57,969 and Jerry Greenberg at Atlantic and Ahmet Ertegun said, 647 00:55:58,070 --> 00:56:01,005 ''We think Nights On Broadway, because we don't think people 648 00:56:01,107 --> 00:56:04,609 ''will actually accept this f rom the Bee Gees 649 00:56:04,710 --> 00:56:08,012 ''because, f irst of all, you haven't done anything like this before, 650 00:56:08,114 --> 00:56:12,217 ''and secondly, it's very black, it's not something that would be accepted.'' 651 00:56:12,318 --> 00:56:15,186 Robert said, ''That's exactly why I want this to be the f irst single.'' 652 00:56:15,287 --> 00:56:18,990 When Jive Talkin' came out, everybody went, ''Who?'' 653 00:56:19,091 --> 00:56:21,993 ''The Bee Gees 'Broken Heart' Bee Gees? Are you kidding? 654 00:56:22,094 --> 00:56:26,731 ''You mean, the same group that did... Whoa.'' Nobody knew. 655 00:56:26,832 --> 00:56:28,333 And that changed our whole career. 656 00:56:28,434 --> 00:56:30,702 And it became a number one record. 657 00:56:30,803 --> 00:56:34,139 And we knew that was the start of the... 658 00:56:34,240 --> 00:56:38,109 our black music inf luences with Arif Mardin 659 00:56:38,210 --> 00:56:40,912 being expressed to its f ull potential. 660 00:56:41,013 --> 00:56:42,380 We were completing Nights On Broadway, 661 00:56:42,481 --> 00:56:46,317 we'd just done most of the vocal tracks and all the harmonies and stuff, 662 00:56:46,419 --> 00:56:49,421 and usually, at the end you have some ad libs 663 00:56:49,522 --> 00:56:52,223 to take us away f rom the original melody and have some fun. 664 00:56:52,324 --> 00:56:54,159 Arif wanted us to sort of sing, 665 00:56:54,260 --> 00:56:57,595 or try to scream like Paul McCartney would sometimes scream in f alsetto. 666 00:56:57,696 --> 00:56:59,063 So, Barry said, ''I'll have a go.'' 667 00:56:59,165 --> 00:57:03,768 So, he did the ''blaming it alls'' ad lib on the end of Nights On Broadway. 668 00:57:16,449 --> 00:57:20,351 He screamed, and it's the f irst time I've heard him scream in tune with the melody. 669 00:57:20,453 --> 00:57:22,921 And in doing so, I discovered I had a f alsetto voice. 670 00:57:26,525 --> 00:57:30,562 I knew it was back there somewhere, because we'd tried things like that early on. 671 00:57:30,663 --> 00:57:32,764 And we thought, ''That's brilliant.'' 672 00:57:32,865 --> 00:57:35,433 So, after that, actually, we wrote Fanny Be Tender 673 00:57:35,534 --> 00:57:38,236 'cause we wanted to do a whole song in f alsetto. 674 00:57:38,337 --> 00:57:40,405 'Cause we loved the Stylistics, 675 00:57:40,506 --> 00:57:43,975 we loved the Spinners, the Delf onics. 676 00:57:44,076 --> 00:57:46,978 They were coming out with these records like... 677 00:57:47,079 --> 00:57:49,113 They were all f alsetto lead singers. 678 00:57:49,215 --> 00:57:53,451 And that was black, R&B, at the time, that's what they called it at the time. 679 00:57:53,552 --> 00:57:55,086 We were into all that stuff. 680 00:58:16,976 --> 00:58:19,644 Fanny Be Tender, I think, convinced us 681 00:58:19,745 --> 00:58:22,413 that we were now recording the kind of music 682 00:58:22,515 --> 00:58:24,415 that was going to take us to the next plateau. 683 00:58:24,517 --> 00:58:28,720 For the first time also, apart from going onto the Billboard Pop Charts, 684 00:58:28,821 --> 00:58:31,422 we were actually on the black charts as well 685 00:58:31,524 --> 00:58:36,160 where there were no white acts, and that was telling us something, 686 00:58:36,262 --> 00:58:40,598 that we were in an area we would never have gone into before. 687 00:58:54,313 --> 00:58:55,914 We just felt tremendously happy. 688 00:58:56,015 --> 00:58:59,284 We were just so knocked out that we had an audience again, 689 00:58:59,385 --> 00:59:01,953 and to have that success, 'cause even before that 690 00:59:02,054 --> 00:59:04,355 we weren't even looking f or a thing like a Fever, or anything like that, 691 00:59:04,456 --> 00:59:06,591 we were just making music. 692 00:59:07,259 --> 00:59:09,627 And Children Of The World, which f ollowed that, 693 00:59:09,728 --> 00:59:13,631 we had You Should Be Dancing, which is the only obvious dance song we ever wrote, 694 00:59:13,732 --> 00:59:16,267 and Love So Right were two number ones off that. 695 00:59:16,368 --> 00:59:20,204 They were, like, triple platinum. We were just coasting along here. 696 00:59:20,306 --> 00:59:22,540 ''We're having a ball. This is great.'' 697 00:59:22,641 --> 00:59:25,543 We were having a great time, and it's only till the Fever thing happened, 698 00:59:25,644 --> 00:59:28,279 that's when everything exploded, 699 00:59:28,380 --> 00:59:30,348 when the world just went crazy. 700 00:59:49,435 --> 00:59:50,902 We had a phone call f rom Robert 701 00:59:51,003 --> 00:59:53,504 saying Paramount was making a movie and he was producing. 702 00:59:53,606 --> 00:59:56,808 He told us it was about this guy who works in a paint shop in Brooklyn, 703 00:59:56,909 --> 01:00:00,078 he blows his wages every Saturday night in a club and wins a dance competition. 704 01:00:00,179 --> 01:00:03,581 We thought, ''Nice one, Rob.'' 705 01:00:04,617 --> 01:00:07,952 John Travolta was dancing in the f ilm to You Should Be Dancing, 706 01:00:08,053 --> 01:00:11,322 which had been a hit off Children Of The World, the previous album. 707 01:00:11,423 --> 01:00:14,192 And Robert wanted to know if we had anything, 708 01:00:14,293 --> 01:00:16,894 or if we could write more songs f or the f ilm. 709 01:00:16,996 --> 01:00:19,130 We went OK, so we had Staying Alive, 710 01:00:19,231 --> 01:00:22,000 How Deep Is Your Love, and If I Can't Have You, 711 01:00:22,101 --> 01:00:23,968 were the f irst three ones that he heard. 712 01:00:24,069 --> 01:00:26,871 And he said, ''Great, this is f antastic.'' 713 01:00:26,972 --> 01:00:31,209 And to us, this was most likely to be our new album. 714 01:00:31,310 --> 01:00:34,946 So he came back about a month later and asked for some more. 715 01:00:35,047 --> 01:00:37,048 ''Our album's gone now.'' 716 01:00:37,149 --> 01:00:39,751 So we ended up with about eight of our songs in the f ilm. 717 01:00:39,852 --> 01:00:41,386 But in those days, you thought, 718 01:00:41,487 --> 01:00:44,322 ''God, you'd pay people to put your songs in a f ilm. 719 01:00:44,423 --> 01:00:46,157 ''It's a great promotion.'' 720 01:00:46,258 --> 01:00:51,095 There was a suggestion that...Stayin' Alive should be called Saturday Night, 721 01:00:51,196 --> 01:00:53,498 and Robert said, ''No, you should keep it.'' 722 01:00:53,599 --> 01:00:56,868 ''Stayin' Alive? It's like buried alive.'' No, the opposite. 723 01:00:56,969 --> 01:00:58,436 It's actually staying alive. 724 01:00:58,537 --> 01:01:00,371 And Robert dug his heels in, 725 01:01:00,472 --> 01:01:03,441 because they thought it was a very sophisticated title f or a popular song, 726 01:01:03,542 --> 01:01:07,011 but we wouldn't budge, because there are so many songs called Saturday Night. 727 01:01:07,112 --> 01:01:10,214 But we did have a song called Night Fever, and the compromise was 728 01:01:10,315 --> 01:01:14,185 that we suggested the title of the f ilm should be Saturday Night Fever, 729 01:01:14,286 --> 01:01:18,222 but we would have the song Night Fever on the album without Saturday on it. 730 01:02:03,402 --> 01:02:05,670 So we stayed on the path that we'd always stayed on, 731 01:02:05,771 --> 01:02:10,541 and that is, ''Let's just make what we believe is a great record.'' 732 01:02:10,642 --> 01:02:14,378 And we continued with that f or about six or seven songs, 733 01:02:14,947 --> 01:02:18,850 never really knowing whether or not they were going to be used in the movie. 734 01:02:18,951 --> 01:02:22,720 We didn't go near the f ilm. The only time we went near the f ilm was the premiere 735 01:02:22,821 --> 01:02:25,523 where we stood at the back of the theatre listening, 736 01:02:25,624 --> 01:02:27,992 and at least being able to say to Robert, 737 01:02:28,093 --> 01:02:30,862 ''It's wonderful, but when you're in a club, 738 01:02:30,963 --> 01:02:33,631 ''you can't hear people dancing.'' 739 01:02:33,732 --> 01:02:36,067 - That's right. - The music was too soft. 740 01:02:36,168 --> 01:02:39,470 And if you're in a club, you don't hear people going like... 741 01:02:39,571 --> 01:02:42,940 - You don't hear their feet. - You don't hear all this stuff. 742 01:02:43,041 --> 01:02:45,977 Robert got the point, pumped the music up, 743 01:02:46,078 --> 01:02:49,080 took out all the noises of the feet, and that's what you have now. 744 01:03:45,838 --> 01:03:48,506 Being in miami, you're in a sort of goldf ish bowl. 745 01:03:48,607 --> 01:03:51,008 You don't see much of what's going on out there. 746 01:03:51,109 --> 01:03:53,311 When we were here writing f or the Spirits album, 747 01:03:53,412 --> 01:03:57,915 we didn't think about what Fever was doing, we didn't really know that much. 748 01:03:58,016 --> 01:04:01,519 We were locked away f or about a month before How Deep Is Your Love came out, 749 01:04:01,620 --> 01:04:04,655 and that was a number one before the f ilm came out. 750 01:04:04,756 --> 01:04:07,191 I remember everyone saying, ''What a great R&B ballad.'' 751 01:04:07,292 --> 01:04:09,827 And as soon as the film came out they said, ''What a great disco ballad.'' 752 01:04:09,928 --> 01:04:11,596 It was so opposite, it was so f unny. 753 01:04:11,697 --> 01:04:14,465 The one thing that still affects us is How Deep Is Your Love. 754 01:04:14,566 --> 01:04:17,301 No matter how it's sung, it's still a beautiful song. 755 01:04:17,402 --> 01:04:19,770 So it wasn't all what you would call dance music. 756 01:04:19,872 --> 01:04:23,007 But then of course we became the biggest disco band around, 757 01:04:23,108 --> 01:04:24,642 which totally amazed us, 758 01:04:24,743 --> 01:04:28,679 because we always thought KC was the disco thing, and Donna Summer. 759 01:04:28,780 --> 01:04:32,817 It was all great f un stuff, it was party music, but we never regarded ourselves as that. 760 01:04:32,918 --> 01:04:35,620 All I know is when we were recording these songs, 761 01:04:35,721 --> 01:04:39,190 we didn't think about dancing, we were just thinking about songs. 762 01:04:39,291 --> 01:04:42,159 We didn't even know the word disco music existed. 763 01:04:42,261 --> 01:04:45,296 It was coined after the film, because of the f ilm's success. 764 01:04:45,397 --> 01:04:47,798 None of us expected the success that Fever had. 765 01:04:47,900 --> 01:04:50,234 And the album started doing a million a week. 766 01:04:50,335 --> 01:04:51,769 This was pretty shocking f or us. 767 01:04:51,870 --> 01:04:54,505 We couldn't even look at those numbers, we couldn't understand it. 768 01:04:54,606 --> 01:04:57,441 Such a phenomenon, other record companies were printing it, 769 01:04:57,542 --> 01:05:00,044 our record company couldn't keep up the pace. 770 01:05:09,655 --> 01:05:13,090 It was an incredible feeling, it was like being in the eye of a storm. 771 01:05:13,191 --> 01:05:16,260 You didn't have a real sense of what was going on around you. 772 01:05:16,361 --> 01:05:21,032 You couldn't answer your phone and you had people climbing over your walls. 773 01:05:21,133 --> 01:05:25,202 So, it was extremely crazy and something we weren't used to 774 01:05:25,304 --> 01:05:28,873 because we'd never experienced that kind of f ame or good f ortune. 775 01:05:28,974 --> 01:05:31,442 It actually has affected, in many ways, 776 01:05:31,543 --> 01:05:34,512 the culture in a very sort of subconscious way 777 01:05:34,613 --> 01:05:36,580 that very few vehicles have. 778 01:05:36,682 --> 01:05:39,250 And that's an amazing thing is it still gets played, 779 01:05:39,351 --> 01:05:42,153 and we don't even understand that. 780 01:05:42,254 --> 01:05:44,622 We just... we're bewildered by it. 781 01:05:44,723 --> 01:05:47,792 There's something magical about when something happens, 782 01:05:47,893 --> 01:05:49,660 you just don't know where this is, 783 01:05:49,761 --> 01:05:54,498 where this captures the imagination of millions of people at the same time. 784 01:05:54,599 --> 01:05:57,468 It goes beyond being just a hit album. 785 01:06:08,180 --> 01:06:10,848 Disco is a bad word 786 01:06:10,949 --> 01:06:16,320 if you're not the group that disco is built around. 787 01:06:16,421 --> 01:06:19,657 And we're the group that disco was built around. 788 01:06:19,758 --> 01:06:24,028 And so, based on that, we're very, very happy with the word disco. 789 01:06:24,129 --> 01:06:25,062 Absolutely. 790 01:06:25,163 --> 01:06:29,467 It was an amazing experience in the recording industry. 791 01:06:29,568 --> 01:06:35,673 There was no radio station that wasn't playing back-to-back Gibb brothers songs. 792 01:06:35,774 --> 01:06:38,843 And of course, the record business was pretty angry 793 01:06:38,944 --> 01:06:41,178 'cause they couldn't get records on the playlist. 794 01:06:41,279 --> 01:06:44,348 It was number one on the Billboard Chart for six months unbroken. 795 01:06:44,449 --> 01:06:47,018 Fever did around 30 to 35 million. 796 01:06:47,119 --> 01:06:49,487 Thriller did approximately 50 million 797 01:06:49,588 --> 01:06:52,123 and we're quite happy to be second to michael 798 01:06:52,224 --> 01:06:55,259 and we've had a lot of giggles about that. 799 01:07:03,969 --> 01:07:06,837 Ladies and gentleman, our brother Andy! 800 01:07:16,748 --> 01:07:19,784 The door was always open f or Andy. It was not like ever closed off. 801 01:07:19,885 --> 01:07:23,687 Andy wanted to be one of us, always wanted to be part of us, 802 01:07:23,789 --> 01:07:27,058 and the difference in the age was quite radical. 803 01:07:27,159 --> 01:07:28,793 So, it never quite worked out. 804 01:07:28,894 --> 01:07:34,065 As time went on, Andy watching, listening, witnessing what we were doing, 805 01:07:34,166 --> 01:07:38,002 began to feel this was something he could do too as an individual. 806 01:07:38,103 --> 01:07:42,239 And that's really how it came about. The f irst time I ever saw Andy perform 807 01:07:42,340 --> 01:07:45,309 in the way that we had performed was onstage in Ibiza. 808 01:07:45,410 --> 01:07:49,747 We were living in Ibiza at the time and f requenting a certain club, 809 01:07:49,848 --> 01:07:52,416 and Andy would get up on stage and sing. 810 01:07:52,517 --> 01:07:54,952 And we'd also strum a lot at home 811 01:07:55,053 --> 01:07:58,089 and sing old mills Brothers songs and all that stuff. 812 01:07:58,190 --> 01:08:02,560 And I began to realize that Andy was doing what the three of us were doing. 813 01:08:02,661 --> 01:08:08,833 And realizing that herein is another young artist waiting to come out. 814 01:08:08,934 --> 01:08:10,768 Any resemblance between this next fella 815 01:08:10,869 --> 01:08:14,138 and the Bee Gees is purely intentional - it's their younger brother Andy. 816 01:08:14,239 --> 01:08:17,208 Andy Gibb and his debut single release, already a hit in America, 817 01:08:17,309 --> 01:08:20,044 called I Just Wanna Be Your Everything. 818 01:09:23,875 --> 01:09:26,844 We were like twins. His voice was very much like mine. It was uncanny. 819 01:09:26,945 --> 01:09:29,146 We had almost the same kind of voice. 820 01:09:29,247 --> 01:09:32,983 Robin's voice, much higher than mine or Andy's, but we were very much alike. 821 01:09:33,084 --> 01:09:36,353 We even had the same birthmarks, which we could never f igure out. 822 01:09:36,454 --> 01:09:39,523 We were alike in so many ways, it was unbelievable. 823 01:09:39,624 --> 01:09:41,692 We were the only two brothers who loved tennis, 824 01:09:41,793 --> 01:09:44,828 and we shared all the same ideals, all the same opinions about things. 825 01:09:44,930 --> 01:09:46,830 We never differed on anything. 826 01:10:04,216 --> 01:10:06,750 I made sure Robert heard what Andy had been doing. 827 01:10:06,851 --> 01:10:09,687 Andy invited Robert and I to Bermuda. 828 01:10:09,788 --> 01:10:12,089 We'd convinced Andy to get together with me 829 01:10:12,190 --> 01:10:14,291 to see if we could come up with something. 830 01:10:14,392 --> 01:10:17,127 The f irst thing was I Just Want To Be Your Everything, 831 01:10:17,229 --> 01:10:19,096 the second was Thicker Than Water, 832 01:10:19,197 --> 01:10:23,734 and the third was something all f our of us wrote together called Shadow Dancing. 833 01:10:33,345 --> 01:10:35,713 He started writing more and he was getting better. 834 01:10:35,814 --> 01:10:39,817 He was doing very well in terms of number ones and consecutive singles. 835 01:10:39,918 --> 01:10:42,920 If it was an artist today, it would be loud and proud. 836 01:11:01,006 --> 01:11:03,941 Andy had great strife in life, not unlike maurice's. 837 01:11:04,042 --> 01:11:07,378 And perhaps, perhaps not, that's what ended his life. 838 01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:09,413 But with the drugs and the cocaine abuse 839 01:11:09,514 --> 01:11:12,149 that he had done in LA and stuff over his young life, 840 01:11:12,250 --> 01:11:15,085 he had been involved with a lot of people who were doing drugs. 841 01:11:15,186 --> 01:11:16,920 So, about six months before he died, 842 01:11:17,022 --> 01:11:18,722 he went back to England to stay at Robin's house. 843 01:11:18,823 --> 01:11:20,658 Then we'd heard he was hitting the liquor store, 844 01:11:20,759 --> 01:11:25,362 and he did it f or 48 hours, I believe, he was drinking, when he was taken into hospital. 845 01:11:25,463 --> 01:11:28,899 The day before was his 30th birthday. I called to wish him happy birthday 846 01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,969 and Robin said ''He can't come to the phone, he's out of his skull.'' 847 01:11:32,070 --> 01:11:34,605 And I said, ''Oh, well, tell him to sod off. 848 01:11:34,706 --> 01:11:38,142 ''Go away.'' And I put the phone down, and I got very angry. 849 01:11:38,243 --> 01:11:40,878 And I thought, ''When will he learn?'' 850 01:11:46,518 --> 01:11:50,387 And it was three days after that. Ken, who works f or Robin, 851 01:11:50,488 --> 01:11:53,157 called us about six in the morning, seven in the morning, 852 01:11:53,258 --> 01:11:57,394 and said that Andy had passed away, and I just dropped the phone. 853 01:12:09,708 --> 01:12:12,643 The last thing that happened between me and Andy was an argument, 854 01:12:12,744 --> 01:12:15,846 which is devastating for me, because I have to live with that all my life. 855 01:12:15,947 --> 01:12:17,915 There was a phone call between him and me. 856 01:12:18,016 --> 01:12:21,719 I was saying, ''You've got to get your act together, this is no good.'' 857 01:12:21,820 --> 01:12:25,089 Instead of being gentle about it, I was angry, 858 01:12:25,190 --> 01:12:27,891 because someone had said to me at some point, 859 01:12:27,992 --> 01:12:29,727 ''Tough love is the answer.'' 860 01:12:29,828 --> 01:12:33,163 So for me it wasn't, because that was the last conversation we had. 861 01:12:33,264 --> 01:12:34,998 That's my regret, that's what I live with. 862 01:12:35,100 --> 01:12:36,967 We approached him to be a Bee Gee, 863 01:12:37,068 --> 01:12:39,236 we would've loved him to have been a Bee Gee. 864 01:12:39,337 --> 01:12:41,472 I think if he had've been, 865 01:12:41,573 --> 01:12:45,909 he may still be with us, but then, we don't know. 866 01:12:46,010 --> 01:12:49,113 michael Jackson, f or instance, I think if people had said 867 01:12:49,214 --> 01:12:51,582 all the nice things they did on the day he died, 868 01:12:51,683 --> 01:12:54,284 when he was alive, he may still have been alive. 869 01:12:54,386 --> 01:12:58,422 That's just the irony, but some people need to hear it when they're alive. 870 01:13:05,096 --> 01:13:07,197 We had to go in the studio the week after. 871 01:13:07,298 --> 01:13:11,335 We thought, maybe if we got back to work we can get re-centered, or something. 872 01:13:11,436 --> 01:13:13,570 And I had to... 873 01:13:15,473 --> 01:13:18,876 I was playing the strings, and it was very beautif ul. 874 01:13:18,977 --> 01:13:22,613 Barry and Robin just started crying, and I just started crying. I said, ''I can't play.'' 875 01:13:22,714 --> 01:13:25,482 We went home, and about a month later we came back in 876 01:13:25,583 --> 01:13:29,219 and then we did Wish You Were Here f or Andy. 877 01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:31,989 And that was difficult to sing, very difficult, 878 01:13:32,090 --> 01:13:34,458 but we wanted to sing it, we wanted to do it. 879 01:13:34,559 --> 01:13:38,095 But there was such a hauntingness on the sound I was getting on the keyboards, 880 01:13:38,196 --> 01:13:39,696 it was so pretty. 881 01:13:39,798 --> 01:13:43,133 And I was just playing these chords that just went into beautif ul melodies 882 01:13:43,234 --> 01:13:47,504 and Barry and Robin just... ''maybe next week,'' and we left. 883 01:14:00,652 --> 01:14:02,119 - No. - Hang on. 884 01:14:02,220 --> 01:14:04,955 - It's too slow. - The way we rehearsed it last night. 885 01:14:05,056 --> 01:14:06,857 We'll go straight again. 886 01:14:20,738 --> 01:14:22,639 - Go on, now. - Go on, now. 887 01:14:25,410 --> 01:14:27,311 - No, hold it. Hold it. - One more. 888 01:14:27,412 --> 01:14:30,180 It would be nice if we could f ind a bigger sound f or that solo. 889 01:14:30,281 --> 01:14:32,549 - Great. - Bigger, rounder. All right. 890 01:14:33,885 --> 01:14:36,320 Yeah, just like that, yeah, beautiful. 891 01:14:36,421 --> 01:14:38,355 Let's do it again, second half of the chorus, 892 01:14:38,456 --> 01:14:40,691 but bring that sound in, that's great. 893 01:14:40,792 --> 01:14:44,928 Yeah. OK. One, two, three, f our... 894 01:14:50,802 --> 01:14:54,972 When somebody stops singing something really interesting, as soon as he stops, 895 01:14:55,073 --> 01:14:58,041 an instrument takes over doing something that's equally interesting. 896 01:14:58,142 --> 01:15:00,143 When that instrument stops and the voice comes back, 897 01:15:00,245 --> 01:15:03,881 the voice has to be equally interesting as the instrumental before it. 898 01:15:03,982 --> 01:15:08,218 So, anywhere there's a space, you make an interesting situation happen. 899 01:15:16,294 --> 01:15:20,097 When we were doing Tragedy, f or instance, we wanted the sound of an explosion 900 01:15:20,198 --> 01:15:23,033 to come at a certain point, to accentuate the track. 901 01:15:23,134 --> 01:15:27,170 So we all gathered in the control booth, and listened to the track back. 902 01:15:27,272 --> 01:15:30,274 - It might work. - Now, listen. 903 01:15:32,877 --> 01:15:35,012 - Right in that slot there. - An explosion. 904 01:15:36,714 --> 01:15:39,016 - Perhaps a little earlier. - You will f ind it? 905 01:15:39,117 --> 01:15:42,219 - That's the place you always sang it. - What might work... 906 01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:46,390 Yeah, just like I did then, just go to the mic and go... 907 01:15:46,491 --> 01:15:49,960 - maybe we can turn it into an explosion. - Let's try overloading it. 908 01:15:50,061 --> 01:15:53,196 Try it f irst, just so we find the place, see if you can f ind that beat. 909 01:15:53,298 --> 01:15:55,899 - What about a real explosion? - The air f orce base? 910 01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:59,570 - Where do we find one? - max has got some dynamite in his office. 911 01:15:59,671 --> 01:16:02,573 - Let's go. - Let me give it a go... 912 01:16:02,674 --> 01:16:05,242 - before we go to get the dynamite. - OK. 913 01:16:05,343 --> 01:16:08,245 - This will be interesting. - Hope everything comes out all right. 914 01:16:08,346 --> 01:16:12,316 - See if he f inds it. - Yeah. He's got to get it in the right spot. 915 01:16:12,417 --> 01:16:15,519 Feed me some track. Let's give it a shot. 916 01:16:19,090 --> 01:16:20,924 Sorry about that. 917 01:16:29,667 --> 01:16:34,638 I think... Barry, loosen your shirt. 918 01:16:35,239 --> 01:16:36,239 It was a prank. 919 01:16:36,341 --> 01:16:39,743 maybe you should just close your eyes and really concentrate on the meter. 920 01:16:39,844 --> 01:16:41,712 - I'll be counting. - OK. I'll be counting. 921 01:16:41,813 --> 01:16:43,814 I'll be counting! 922 01:16:54,626 --> 01:16:56,760 - Yeah, that was it. - Yeah. 923 01:16:56,861 --> 01:16:58,895 - Thank you. Great. - Fabulous. 924 01:16:58,997 --> 01:17:01,264 That was a hair early but I think when we're all together... 925 01:17:01,366 --> 01:17:04,301 - Let's hear it back. - It's gonna work with three of them together, 926 01:17:04,402 --> 01:17:08,238 and maybe you could do something soundwise with them 927 01:17:08,339 --> 01:17:11,908 - ..that's gonna make them work as well. - Shut up and get in here. 928 01:17:12,510 --> 01:17:15,545 Where was I? Yeah... You know that guy... 929 01:17:15,647 --> 01:17:18,181 - Let's hear it back. - You told me about him. 930 01:17:18,282 --> 01:17:22,486 Was he still the same guy as he was before? Really? 931 01:17:30,061 --> 01:17:33,363 - There you go. Fantastic. - Very nice. Very nice. 932 01:18:04,996 --> 01:18:07,664 In retrospect, we could've actually waited another year or so 933 01:18:07,765 --> 01:18:10,000 before Spirits came out because it was... 934 01:18:10,101 --> 01:18:13,804 Saturday Night Fever was still in the top ten even when we brought Spirits out. 935 01:18:13,905 --> 01:18:16,707 Well, that was the ''30-Ton Tour'', I call it. 936 01:18:16,808 --> 01:18:18,208 A lot of gear. 937 01:18:18,309 --> 01:18:21,845 We had, like, six semi-trailers, and we had the 707 plane. 938 01:18:21,946 --> 01:18:25,882 It was huge. I mean, Dodger Stadium, places like that. 939 01:18:25,983 --> 01:18:27,851 We used to dream of this. 940 01:18:27,952 --> 01:18:30,921 Having people in the audience like Barbra Streisand 941 01:18:31,022 --> 01:18:32,956 watching your show and loving it. 942 01:18:33,057 --> 01:18:36,059 I mean, these are f antasies. These are all dreams. 943 01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:39,129 And to have a 707, black with red bottom 944 01:18:39,230 --> 01:18:41,498 and our three heads on the tail and all this. 945 01:18:41,599 --> 01:18:43,567 You're going, ''Whoa!'' 946 01:18:43,668 --> 01:18:46,002 Even getting bomb threats, it was great, 947 01:18:46,104 --> 01:18:49,372 because if you weren't important they wouldn't bomb you. 948 01:19:37,388 --> 01:19:39,723 It was a great tour and Andyjoined us on that tour 949 01:19:39,824 --> 01:19:41,625 in a few shows, even John Travolta. 950 01:19:41,893 --> 01:19:43,960 It was just a f abulous experience. 951 01:19:44,061 --> 01:19:46,263 To go on stage and see the audience... 952 01:19:46,364 --> 01:19:49,966 'Cause I love... That's the only way you can say thank you, really, by going on stage live, 953 01:19:50,067 --> 01:19:51,601 f or putting you there. 954 01:19:51,702 --> 01:19:55,572 That was our way of thanking people because that's the only way you can do it. 955 01:19:55,673 --> 01:19:58,708 Because if it wasn't f or the audience, we wouldn't have been up there. 956 01:20:04,248 --> 01:20:07,150 The 50-city tour that we did f or Spirits 957 01:20:07,251 --> 01:20:10,153 was really the beginning of maurice's alcohol problems... 958 01:20:10,254 --> 01:20:12,756 But, you see, I was always very protected. 959 01:20:12,857 --> 01:20:15,292 I didn't get all the arrests that people would have got arrested, 960 01:20:15,393 --> 01:20:17,794 'cause I was always protected by people looking after me, so... 961 01:20:17,895 --> 01:20:21,331 ''Oh, he's just having a good time.'' And they'd take me up to my room. 962 01:20:21,432 --> 01:20:24,601 I wouldn't worry about getting to bed, because they would take me to bed. 963 01:20:24,702 --> 01:20:28,471 So we had security and people looking after us and roadies and things... 964 01:20:28,573 --> 01:20:33,009 Saved me from a lot of driving and speeding f ines and drunk-driving tickets. 965 01:20:33,110 --> 01:20:35,245 The only time I got the real f irst one was in the Isle of Man 966 01:20:35,346 --> 01:20:37,013 because I was the only guy in a blue Rolls-Royce 967 01:20:37,114 --> 01:20:39,316 driving around the Isle of man drunk. 968 01:20:39,417 --> 01:20:41,618 I sort of stuck out like a sore thumb. 969 01:20:41,719 --> 01:20:44,120 It was more of a question of denial. 970 01:20:44,222 --> 01:20:48,859 It was more, ''Let's keep writing, moe will be OK.'' 971 01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:51,561 And the reason that the Streisand Guilty album 972 01:20:51,662 --> 01:20:54,531 doesn't really involve maurice on more than one song, 973 01:20:54,632 --> 01:20:57,067 which is Guilty, was because at that very point, 974 01:20:57,168 --> 01:21:01,338 maurice had reached the razor's edge, he really needed to be in rehab. 975 01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:06,309 And so this was really the whole f amily 976 01:21:06,410 --> 01:21:08,445 coming to the same conclusion. 977 01:21:08,546 --> 01:21:11,448 Robin and I conf ronting maurice at his home, 978 01:21:11,549 --> 01:21:13,984 with Yvonne, his wife, 979 01:21:14,085 --> 01:21:17,888 basically having to lay down a law which we did not want to lay down, 980 01:21:17,989 --> 01:21:22,859 which was, ''moe, it ends now, or it ends forever.'' 981 01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:28,098 And at that point moe went into rehab and took the step. 982 01:21:28,199 --> 01:21:32,802 And Robin and I waited f or about six months f or him to come back around. 983 01:21:32,904 --> 01:21:34,938 Then we went back in the studio together 984 01:21:35,039 --> 01:21:37,073 and carried on as we had before. 985 01:21:45,182 --> 01:21:46,583 We weren't f unctioning as a group in the '80s. 986 01:21:46,684 --> 01:21:48,184 We were concentrating on songwriting. 987 01:21:48,286 --> 01:21:51,454 The whole ''It's time to kill Fever, it's time to kill disco'' period came in, 988 01:21:51,555 --> 01:21:53,290 so we just sort of took a back seat. 989 01:21:58,930 --> 01:22:01,932 The saturation point was ridiculous. That's why we had to sit back, 990 01:22:02,033 --> 01:22:05,168 and produce other people and write f or other people. 991 01:22:05,269 --> 01:22:08,238 When we heard they were having ''Bee Gee-free weekends'' in Chicago 992 01:22:08,339 --> 01:22:11,708 and places like that, it was scary stuff. 993 01:22:11,809 --> 01:22:15,445 We thought, ''We'd better take the Bee Gees on the back burner f or a while 994 01:22:15,546 --> 01:22:18,281 ''until this dies down or something.'' 995 01:22:18,382 --> 01:22:20,750 So we couldn't do anything as the Bee Gees at all. 996 01:22:20,851 --> 01:22:23,086 We didn't make an album till '87. 997 01:22:23,187 --> 01:22:27,123 We'd done so much in the studio, over so few years 998 01:22:27,224 --> 01:22:30,694 that I think it all caught up with us. 999 01:22:32,263 --> 01:22:36,866 Personally, I thought, ''This will give us a chance to write for other artists.'' 1000 01:22:36,968 --> 01:22:38,068 We got offered Barbra. 1001 01:22:38,169 --> 01:22:42,439 I called Neil Diamond and I said, ''What's Barbra like to work with?'' 1002 01:22:42,540 --> 01:22:44,941 He said, ''She's f antastic, just go for it.'' 1003 01:22:59,123 --> 01:23:01,458 I remember me and Barry writing in his bedroom. 1004 01:23:01,559 --> 01:23:04,961 We'd do a song each day and then the f ollowing week 1005 01:23:05,062 --> 01:23:08,665 we'd do the lyrics to the respective song that we'd written. 1006 01:23:08,766 --> 01:23:12,635 And we sent the seven songs that we'd f inished at that point to Barbra Streisand. 1007 01:23:12,737 --> 01:23:14,971 We had an immediate yes, she wanted to start right away. 1008 01:23:15,072 --> 01:23:16,906 So that was a very enjoyable experience. 1009 01:23:17,008 --> 01:23:19,175 From then, it was like Dionne Warwick's album, 1010 01:23:19,276 --> 01:23:22,112 Kenny Rogers and Dolly, we all worked together and wrote. 1011 01:23:22,213 --> 01:23:25,849 I did solo stuff with Robin, which was great. So everybody was doing something. 1012 01:23:25,950 --> 01:23:28,685 We were all sort of scattered at that point. 1013 01:23:28,786 --> 01:23:30,487 We all wanted some time away. 1014 01:23:30,588 --> 01:23:34,324 Robin wanted to live in New York f or a little bit, 1015 01:23:34,425 --> 01:23:36,659 maurice was having back surgery, 1016 01:23:36,761 --> 01:23:40,964 and all of these opportunities opened up, we had nothing else to do. 1017 01:23:41,065 --> 01:23:44,167 That led to the Diana Ross album Chain Reaction 1018 01:23:44,268 --> 01:23:47,904 and the Kenny Rogers album with Dolly Parton and Islands In The Stream. 1019 01:24:05,156 --> 01:24:08,091 Islands In The Stream started out as a soul song. 1020 01:24:08,192 --> 01:24:11,561 We came up with Islands In The Stream in our writing room upstairs. 1021 01:24:11,662 --> 01:24:14,330 We all looked at each other, we knew we had a monster song, 1022 01:24:14,432 --> 01:24:17,901 we just didn't know who was going to record it... 1023 01:24:21,272 --> 01:24:24,274 We viewed it as an R&B song and not a country song. 1024 01:24:24,375 --> 01:24:26,309 And in the end it just came to show 1025 01:24:26,410 --> 01:24:29,746 that those two types of music are very close together. 1026 01:24:29,847 --> 01:24:32,816 And Islands In The Stream became a country song. 1027 01:24:32,917 --> 01:24:37,387 Really, we're talking about two careers here, composers and artists. 1028 01:24:37,488 --> 01:24:43,760 And the two go together, but then they're separate as well. 1029 01:24:43,861 --> 01:24:47,931 They are both very, very meaningf ul to us in their own way. 1030 01:24:48,032 --> 01:24:51,835 We see ourselves as composers f irst and artists second because we... 1031 01:24:51,936 --> 01:24:55,405 You can't have the second without the f irst. 1032 01:24:55,506 --> 01:24:57,907 We've always enjoyed writing f or other people. 1033 01:24:58,008 --> 01:25:01,377 The greatest thing about being a writer, a songwriter, 1034 01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:05,148 is when you write a song with someone in mind that you really love, 1035 01:25:05,249 --> 01:25:09,285 and then that person ends up singing it, there's no reward like it. 1036 01:25:09,820 --> 01:25:13,156 We wrote a song f or Celine Dion, called Immortality, 1037 01:25:13,257 --> 01:25:15,358 she inspired the song, she inspires us, 1038 01:25:15,459 --> 01:25:18,061 probably the f inest female pop singer in the world. 1039 01:25:18,162 --> 01:25:21,397 It was a dream that she might sing one of our songs one day. 1040 01:25:21,499 --> 01:25:23,366 And the dream came true. 1041 01:25:33,911 --> 01:25:36,913 We wrote Immortality f or the Saturday Night Fever musical 1042 01:25:37,014 --> 01:25:38,915 and they wanted one big song at the end, 1043 01:25:39,016 --> 01:25:43,253 so the guy could come out... do the whole thing. 1044 01:25:43,354 --> 01:25:45,321 There was a guy that sang it in the show, 1045 01:25:45,422 --> 01:25:48,124 but we wrote it with Celine totally in mind. 1046 01:26:02,773 --> 01:26:06,709 When we write f or girls, Barry sings it in f alsetto, because that's the girls' range, 1047 01:26:06,810 --> 01:26:10,547 so when they play the demo they can sing along and it'll be in their range. 1048 01:26:15,786 --> 01:26:18,288 When you hear the demo, you can hear Celine. 1049 01:26:18,389 --> 01:26:21,658 Then she said she wanted to record it. Blew me away. 1050 01:26:28,132 --> 01:26:31,034 When we f irst heard Celine sing it, we burst into tears. 1051 01:26:31,135 --> 01:26:33,670 - Tissues were going everywhere. - It just destroyed us. 1052 01:26:33,771 --> 01:26:37,173 And that's how we left the building, completely in tears, 1053 01:26:37,274 --> 01:26:39,542 that this girl had done this with this song. 1054 01:29:28,278 --> 01:29:30,847 I always keep a little Dictaphone next to the bed. 1055 01:29:30,948 --> 01:29:35,451 About four in the morning, I woke up with this melody which was... 1056 01:29:41,392 --> 01:29:44,060 And that was it. I thought, ''If I lose this... 1057 01:29:46,263 --> 01:29:50,166 ''it'll be gone f orever,'' because the next day it's gone, it's just gone. 1058 01:29:50,267 --> 01:29:52,935 So I checked the machine, there was no cassette in it. 1059 01:29:53,036 --> 01:29:54,404 It's always the same. 1060 01:29:54,505 --> 01:29:57,640 So I was running round the house trying to find a cassette. 1061 01:29:57,741 --> 01:30:03,413 I f ound a cassette, got whatever I could down, and played it to Robin the next day. 1062 01:30:15,726 --> 01:30:19,262 It was f unny. Unf ortunately the record was never released here. 1063 01:30:19,363 --> 01:30:21,497 You Win Again, when it came out in 1987, 1064 01:30:21,598 --> 01:30:23,699 we'd just signed with Warners f or a new deal 1065 01:30:23,801 --> 01:30:27,203 and this was the f irst record and everybody went gung ho on it. 1066 01:30:27,304 --> 01:30:28,938 And really did well. 1067 01:30:29,039 --> 01:30:31,674 And I remember we had these stomps put on it. 1068 01:30:31,775 --> 01:30:35,111 It was something in my studio, my garage that we'd come up with 1069 01:30:35,212 --> 01:30:37,246 and got it all together, there's no drums on there at all, 1070 01:30:37,347 --> 01:30:39,582 it's all just sounds that we made. 1071 01:30:39,683 --> 01:30:42,018 And Arif was producing the album with us, 1072 01:30:42,119 --> 01:30:44,720 and he said, ''Great, when you come out to New York 1073 01:30:44,822 --> 01:30:46,689 ''we'll do You Win Again again.'' 1074 01:30:46,790 --> 01:30:50,293 'Cause we'd done the demo in my garage. 1075 01:30:50,394 --> 01:30:54,464 We got to New York and I'm thinking, ''They're gonna do the whole thing again. 1076 01:30:54,565 --> 01:30:55,898 ''Where do we start?'' 1077 01:30:55,999 --> 01:30:58,301 We had some programmers in there and he went, 1078 01:30:58,402 --> 01:31:01,003 ''Have you got the stomps?'' And I went, ''No. 1079 01:31:01,104 --> 01:31:03,639 ''I thought we were gonna do the whole thing again. 1080 01:31:03,740 --> 01:31:07,243 ''No, you've gotta get the stomps, the stomps are what makes the record. 1081 01:31:07,344 --> 01:31:09,979 ''The sound is part of the backtrack, we've got to have that.'' 1082 01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:14,984 So I had to get them sampled on my drum machine in miami and the disc sent up... 1083 01:31:15,085 --> 01:31:17,987 We got it and then we embellished on it a bit more in the studio 1084 01:31:18,088 --> 01:31:21,457 and everybody at the record company wanted them off. 1085 01:31:21,558 --> 01:31:23,559 And we went, ''No.'' 1086 01:31:23,660 --> 01:31:26,762 ''Well, can you take them off the intro?'' ''No.'' 1087 01:31:26,864 --> 01:31:29,599 ''Can you turn them down a bit in the mix?'' ''No.'' 1088 01:31:29,700 --> 01:31:31,534 ''It's as it is, that's the record.'' 1089 01:31:31,635 --> 01:31:34,070 And they didn't like that. They weren't too happy about that. 1090 01:31:34,171 --> 01:31:35,304 And now everyone says, 1091 01:31:35,405 --> 01:31:38,641 ''As soon as that record starts on the radio, you know it's the Bee Gees.'' 1092 01:31:38,742 --> 01:31:42,745 That was such a great signal. It signaled to everybody that this song's coming. 1093 01:31:42,846 --> 01:31:45,014 It became Princess Diana's f avorite song, 1094 01:31:45,115 --> 01:31:47,783 it was just amazing, the success that record had. 1095 01:31:47,885 --> 01:31:49,452 I knew I'd made it in the sampling 1096 01:31:49,553 --> 01:31:52,355 when Phil Collins came up to me at the airport and said, 1097 01:31:52,456 --> 01:31:55,658 ''Can you give me a copy of the stomps?'' 1098 01:32:56,753 --> 01:33:00,389 I think the Bee Gee sound... I don't know how to describe it. 1099 01:33:00,490 --> 01:33:02,592 I guess it's just a mixture. It's us. 1100 01:33:02,693 --> 01:33:04,860 You've got to remember, we come f rom an era where 1101 01:33:04,962 --> 01:33:06,963 everybody was experimenting with sounds 1102 01:33:07,064 --> 01:33:09,665 and it was almost a rite of passage. 1103 01:33:14,638 --> 01:33:20,509 So it's a real mixed bag, and I think we were very fortunate it wasn't just one lead singer. 1104 01:33:20,611 --> 01:33:24,046 We could all alternate, and sometimes sing the same song together. 1105 01:33:24,147 --> 01:33:26,382 When we sing songs like... 1106 01:33:30,420 --> 01:33:33,990 It's Barry and Robin singing in unison. But it sounds like one guy. 1107 01:33:34,091 --> 01:33:37,360 ''Bit more Robin, bit more Barry. Are you sure? Which one is it?'' 1108 01:33:37,461 --> 01:33:39,795 But it's a sound of the two. 1109 01:33:39,896 --> 01:33:42,865 Then the three of us go into harmony on the... 1110 01:33:42,966 --> 01:33:44,634 And it's... 1111 01:33:45,869 --> 01:33:47,403 It's just Barry and Robin. 1112 01:33:47,504 --> 01:33:50,973 But they mesh together so well, that it sounds like one voice. 1113 01:33:51,074 --> 01:33:53,976 But it's a different voice f rom them separately. 1114 01:33:54,077 --> 01:33:57,847 To us it was like the Beatles, it was having that alternative lead 1115 01:33:57,948 --> 01:34:00,149 and being able to mix it up. 1116 01:34:18,935 --> 01:34:20,870 I think people today in the world of music 1117 01:34:20,971 --> 01:34:23,739 are f ar, f ar more conservative in what they do, 1118 01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:26,409 they don't use harmonies like they should, 1119 01:34:26,510 --> 01:34:28,844 it's because they're just too lazy. 1120 01:34:28,945 --> 01:34:31,614 It's hard work. Because there's no technology 1121 01:34:31,715 --> 01:34:33,783 that can create a human voice in harmony. 1122 01:34:33,884 --> 01:34:36,352 Or even a machine that can create a melody. 1123 01:34:36,453 --> 01:34:37,953 You've got to do that yourself . 1124 01:34:38,055 --> 01:34:41,424 Those are the basic vehicles of all popular music. 1125 01:34:41,525 --> 01:34:44,093 That's what's gonna make music what it is and the songs what they are. 1126 01:34:44,194 --> 01:34:46,429 And there's still no technology f or those, 1127 01:34:46,530 --> 01:34:49,198 and those are the principal ones, and thank God there isn't. 1128 01:34:49,299 --> 01:34:51,267 That blend has been used quite a lot. 1129 01:34:51,368 --> 01:34:54,837 With harmonies, we bank them underneath with doubles and falsettos on top 1130 01:34:54,938 --> 01:34:58,674 so you get the f ull richness of the harmony, which is what I love to do. 1131 01:34:58,775 --> 01:35:02,344 I love to arrange and get the records all... this with that there and... 1132 01:35:02,446 --> 01:35:05,915 Paint the picture, you know, add the colors. 1133 01:35:06,016 --> 01:35:09,852 And they're like our children, we send them out in the world, we hope they do well. 1134 01:36:21,258 --> 01:36:25,361 I think people will always love songs about human relationships and melody. 1135 01:36:25,462 --> 01:36:28,597 These are the songs that will reach out over the decades to the unborn. 1136 01:36:28,698 --> 01:36:32,001 Because they are perennial as the grass, human emotion. 1137 01:36:32,102 --> 01:36:34,870 It is not ego that makes you write a great song, 1138 01:36:34,971 --> 01:36:37,773 it's the belief that you can't that makes you do it. 1139 01:36:37,874 --> 01:36:39,642 Sometimes even envy and jealousy. 1140 01:36:39,743 --> 01:36:42,244 You hear a great song on the radio and think, 1141 01:36:42,345 --> 01:36:44,246 ''I wish I could write a song like that.'' 1142 01:36:44,347 --> 01:36:46,682 I think you need things to motivate you, 1143 01:36:46,783 --> 01:36:50,286 but also there's that belief that you can as well. 1144 01:36:50,387 --> 01:36:52,721 - Damn the torpedoes. - Yeah. 1145 01:36:52,823 --> 01:36:54,623 Robert said to us in 1967, 1146 01:36:54,724 --> 01:36:58,093 He said, ''Write f or 40 years f rom now, don't just write for now.'' 1147 01:36:58,195 --> 01:37:00,162 In other words, ''Don't write f or trends.'' 1148 01:37:00,263 --> 01:37:03,799 Which we tried not to do. That's the one thing I remember him saying. 1149 01:37:03,900 --> 01:37:05,501 ''Write f or the f uture.'' 1150 01:37:28,258 --> 01:37:32,328 Every single award or every single citation or achievement 1151 01:37:32,429 --> 01:37:35,130 that's given to you has a different feel to it. 1152 01:37:35,232 --> 01:37:37,766 The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame was to us everything. 1153 01:37:37,868 --> 01:37:42,438 Please stand and welcome Barry, Robin and maurice Gibb into the Hall of Fame. 1154 01:37:42,539 --> 01:37:44,406 The Bee Gees! 1155 01:37:50,247 --> 01:37:53,916 Being in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame was just a dream f or us. 1156 01:37:54,017 --> 01:37:56,619 But not only getting inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, 1157 01:37:56,720 --> 01:37:59,622 but being inducted by Brian Wilson to me was a knockout. 1158 01:37:59,723 --> 01:38:01,156 That blew my night. 1159 01:38:01,258 --> 01:38:03,859 We are in f act the enigma with the stigma. 1160 01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:06,462 We know this. We're aware of it. 1161 01:38:06,563 --> 01:38:10,733 We hear it every day. We live with it. We have suffered. 1162 01:38:10,834 --> 01:38:13,035 But tonight I think we've come home 1163 01:38:13,136 --> 01:38:15,905 and we thank you very much f or this honor. 1164 01:38:16,006 --> 01:38:17,506 So, every single award you get 1165 01:38:17,607 --> 01:38:21,076 has a different kind of intense emotional experience f or you. 1166 01:38:21,177 --> 01:38:22,544 The BRIT Awards, it's been a long time 1167 01:38:22,646 --> 01:38:24,880 since we've been even involved in anything like that, 1168 01:38:24,981 --> 01:38:28,017 but to get the Lifetime Achievement Award was a wonderful honor. 1169 01:38:28,118 --> 01:38:30,019 Beautif ul Quincy Jones giving us that award 1170 01:38:30,120 --> 01:38:33,255 in the American music Awards, which was wonderful again. 1171 01:38:33,356 --> 01:38:37,393 Quincy I've known f or a lot of years. It's so sweet that he could do that. 1172 01:38:37,494 --> 01:38:38,761 Gentlemen, 1173 01:38:38,862 --> 01:38:43,699 let me just sum it up with this phrase on your International Award. 1174 01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:49,038 Their recordings have sold well over 100 million copies worldwide, 1175 01:38:49,139 --> 01:38:51,607 making them one... 1176 01:38:51,708 --> 01:38:55,077 making them one the top f ive most successful artists ever. 1177 01:38:55,178 --> 01:38:58,047 Congratulations and good luck on your upcoming world tour. 1178 01:38:58,148 --> 01:39:00,249 - Barry! - Thank you, Quincy! 1179 01:39:02,285 --> 01:39:03,552 How times change. 1180 01:39:03,653 --> 01:39:06,889 Ten, f ifteen years ago you wouldn't have put on a Bee Gees record. 1181 01:39:06,990 --> 01:39:08,190 Now, it's sort of OK. 1182 01:40:21,865 --> 01:40:25,100 We stopped touring basically to concentrate more on the writing and songs 1183 01:40:25,201 --> 01:40:28,003 and the work that was involved in that. 1184 01:40:28,104 --> 01:40:30,172 And if we did tour, we wanted it to be special. 1185 01:40:30,273 --> 01:40:32,941 But we certainly didn't want to go out and do a nostalgia tour. 1186 01:40:33,043 --> 01:40:36,178 Just doing the old songs and saying, ''Thank you very much. Cheers.'' 1187 01:40:36,279 --> 01:40:40,682 We wanted to at least have a good success under our belt before we go out again. 1188 01:40:44,254 --> 01:40:50,025 One Night Only was, only became a concept after we did the one show at the MGM. 1189 01:40:50,126 --> 01:40:52,461 It came about f rom back surgery. 1190 01:40:52,562 --> 01:40:55,664 Long-term, every-two-nights or every-one-night tours 1191 01:40:55,765 --> 01:40:58,133 were no longer really feasible. 1192 01:40:59,169 --> 01:41:03,138 The pain was f ar too much f or me, my back has set into a place where, 1193 01:41:03,239 --> 01:41:08,143 if I did that every night, nobody was going to insure us to do that. 1194 01:41:08,244 --> 01:41:11,480 And when you sing falsetto, it's a hell of a high raise to go to, 1195 01:41:11,581 --> 01:41:13,849 that back needs... you need your back. 1196 01:41:13,950 --> 01:41:16,418 And it's agony when you do it, 'cause... 1197 01:41:16,519 --> 01:41:19,021 You feel it before you've even taken half a breath. 1198 01:41:19,122 --> 01:41:21,223 So, Barry was going through all that stuff. 1199 01:41:21,324 --> 01:41:24,626 I don't know how he did it but he didn't want to do a bad show. 1200 01:41:46,483 --> 01:41:48,350 So, we all made up our minds that 1201 01:41:48,451 --> 01:41:51,520 maybe it was a good idea to do six shows worldwide 1202 01:41:51,621 --> 01:41:54,156 and put a price on each one of those shows, 1203 01:41:54,257 --> 01:41:58,827 and that way, people would travel to places that we'd never been before. 1204 01:41:58,928 --> 01:42:00,863 And let my back settle. 1205 01:42:00,964 --> 01:42:03,632 So we did one almost every two weeks, three weeks. 1206 01:42:13,943 --> 01:42:16,111 I've seen him do shows when his back's been in agony. 1207 01:42:16,212 --> 01:42:19,915 I know 'cause I've had back surgery too, and I know exactly what he went through. 1208 01:42:20,016 --> 01:42:23,552 And he's persevered through a whole two-hour show in agony. 1209 01:42:23,653 --> 01:42:25,287 And nobody would have known it. 1210 01:42:25,388 --> 01:42:29,791 We knew it 'cause he'd be singing and he'd turn around and look at us and go... 1211 01:42:29,893 --> 01:42:32,561 Like this and go... And back out again. 1212 01:42:32,662 --> 01:42:34,663 But all the time in agony. 1213 01:44:29,545 --> 01:44:33,248 This Is Where I Came In takes me back to our Beatle period. 1214 01:44:33,349 --> 01:44:37,185 We sort of went back to the way we recorded in the late '60s. 1215 01:44:39,622 --> 01:44:41,556 We sort of went back to that stage 1216 01:44:41,658 --> 01:44:45,827 where it's the acoustics, the piano, the bass, the drums, whatever... 1217 01:44:45,928 --> 01:44:49,097 A lot of live drums on this album. We wanted that live feel. 1218 01:44:49,198 --> 01:44:52,267 Particularly on the opening track. We just wanted to rock a bit more. 1219 01:44:52,368 --> 01:44:54,670 But This Is Where I Came In is the harmony thing. 1220 01:44:54,771 --> 01:44:58,040 We just wanted the three of us around one mic, singing the harmony on this song. 1221 01:44:58,141 --> 01:45:00,709 And that's what we did. And that was two takes. The whole song. 1222 01:45:00,810 --> 01:45:03,278 The whole record. For the vocals. 1223 01:45:03,379 --> 01:45:05,480 ''OK. That's f inished. Next.'' 1224 01:45:05,581 --> 01:45:08,717 And it was like, ''Whoa! This is good stuff. This is great f un!'' 1225 01:45:08,818 --> 01:45:11,553 We were recording just like we used to. 1226 01:45:36,512 --> 01:45:40,048 I loved it. I still do. I don't like the long hours in the studio anymore 1227 01:45:40,149 --> 01:45:42,851 because there's so much going on outside 1228 01:45:42,952 --> 01:45:45,320 and I don't have the attention span. 1229 01:45:45,421 --> 01:45:49,424 If I can make a record in two days, then I'll do that. I'll do it in two days. 1230 01:45:49,525 --> 01:45:53,695 But I couldn't sit there f or 12 hours a day f or three months like we used to. 1231 01:45:53,796 --> 01:45:57,232 Not with f ive children. Not reality anymore. 1232 01:45:57,333 --> 01:46:00,001 But I love it. And I love the results of it. 1233 01:46:00,103 --> 01:46:03,772 When something sounds amazing and you don't know how you got there. 1234 01:46:16,919 --> 01:46:19,554 Yeah, we love that. We love that song. 1235 01:46:22,091 --> 01:46:25,460 It's... It's maurice's turn now. Brother Moe over here. 1236 01:46:29,132 --> 01:46:32,167 Maurice has done a lot more individual music on this album. 1237 01:46:32,268 --> 01:46:34,302 It's really about himself , the song. 1238 01:46:34,404 --> 01:46:38,073 The song is called man In The middle. We hope you like it. 1239 01:47:15,178 --> 01:47:17,112 Yeah, I've sort of been the man in the middle. 1240 01:47:17,213 --> 01:47:18,914 It still comes f rom that business 1241 01:47:19,015 --> 01:47:21,817 where I've always been in the middle of things between Barry and Robin... 1242 01:47:21,918 --> 01:47:24,152 At different times we've all been the man in the middle. 1243 01:47:24,253 --> 01:47:26,521 Robin and I hardly ever see eye-to-eye, 1244 01:47:26,622 --> 01:47:29,958 and yet, we gravitate towards each other no matter what. 1245 01:47:30,059 --> 01:47:31,793 And moe was always the sort of , 1246 01:47:31,894 --> 01:47:34,396 ''Break it up, you guys. Don't argue.'' 1247 01:47:34,497 --> 01:47:38,233 moe would always be that guy that would take the middle ground 1248 01:47:38,334 --> 01:47:41,269 or calm things down if things got... 1249 01:47:41,370 --> 01:47:42,938 To that extent, yes, he was. 1250 01:47:43,039 --> 01:47:45,373 But I think over the years, we've all done that. 1251 01:48:23,546 --> 01:48:26,748 maurice Gibb, one third of the Bee Gees, has died, age 53. 1252 01:48:26,849 --> 01:48:30,352 Here's Tamzin Sylvester with tonight's Liquid Lead. 1253 01:48:30,453 --> 01:48:33,655 maurice collapsed at his beachf ront house in Miami on Thursday 1254 01:48:33,756 --> 01:48:35,123 with severe stomach pains. 1255 01:48:35,224 --> 01:48:37,659 He was rushed to the nearby mount Sinai hospital 1256 01:48:37,760 --> 01:48:40,128 but had a heart attack during emergency surgery. 1257 01:48:40,229 --> 01:48:44,065 His twin brother, Robin, spoke to the media on Friday, saying he was on the mend 1258 01:48:44,166 --> 01:48:46,134 but then maurice slipped into a coma. 1259 01:48:46,235 --> 01:48:48,103 He died in the early hours of this morning 1260 01:48:48,204 --> 01:48:51,206 with his wife, children and brothers Gibb at his bedside. 1261 01:48:51,307 --> 01:48:54,276 It was shattering to both of us, shattering to both of us 1262 01:48:54,377 --> 01:48:57,946 in countless ways, countless ways. 1263 01:48:58,047 --> 01:49:00,181 And the speed at which it happened as well. 1264 01:49:00,283 --> 01:49:04,119 I mean, so unexpected because he was quite young, 1265 01:49:04,220 --> 01:49:06,154 and he'd never really been ill, 1266 01:49:06,255 --> 01:49:08,690 and it happened in such... in a matter of hours. 1267 01:49:08,791 --> 01:49:10,191 And it still... 1268 01:49:10,293 --> 01:49:16,765 It's mind-blowing, f rom a Wednesday night to the Saturday when he died... 1269 01:49:16,866 --> 01:49:19,634 It's just like nothing could stop it. 1270 01:49:19,735 --> 01:49:23,672 And the idea of us going on without moe 1271 01:49:23,773 --> 01:49:26,408 became something that was, 1272 01:49:26,509 --> 01:49:30,078 ''Oh, we could do that.'' ''But no, we couldn't.'' 1273 01:49:30,179 --> 01:49:32,147 ''Yes, we could.'' ''No, we couldn't.'' 1274 01:49:32,248 --> 01:49:33,782 Well, we were in shock. 1275 01:49:34,917 --> 01:49:39,955 Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome the 2003 Legend Award recipients, 1276 01:49:40,056 --> 01:49:42,624 Barry and Robin Gibb. 1277 01:49:47,964 --> 01:49:51,499 The Legend in the 2003 Awards was bittersweet in the Grammys 1278 01:49:51,601 --> 01:49:54,603 because it was... maurice wasn't there. 1279 01:49:54,704 --> 01:49:58,239 And you've got to remember that maurice died on January 12th. 1280 01:49:58,341 --> 01:50:00,742 Well, this was, I think, sometime in January... 1281 01:50:00,843 --> 01:50:02,711 And his f amily were there. 1282 01:50:02,812 --> 01:50:07,115 And so it became more of everybody really dwelling on moe 1283 01:50:07,216 --> 01:50:10,819 and the sadness of it, and the f act that we'd lost him at such an early age. 1284 01:50:10,920 --> 01:50:15,457 And it was incredible to receive it, but we were sort of numb, you know. 1285 01:50:15,558 --> 01:50:18,994 We'd just come to terms with the f act that, ''Maurice has just died.'' 1286 01:50:19,095 --> 01:50:21,463 We were talking about hours, days. 1287 01:50:21,564 --> 01:50:24,165 And so, it was... It came right in the middle. 1288 01:50:24,266 --> 01:50:27,869 Our equilibrium was completely out of whack, 1289 01:50:27,970 --> 01:50:31,072 and if it had been another time, we would have enjoyed it more. 1290 01:50:31,173 --> 01:50:32,974 And if moe had been there with us, 1291 01:50:33,075 --> 01:50:36,011 it would've been the cream on the cake, you know. 1292 01:50:36,112 --> 01:50:39,047 But the idea that he wasn't there to share it... 1293 01:50:39,148 --> 01:50:41,650 was equally important but in a very sad way. 1294 01:50:41,751 --> 01:50:45,387 Even the most ardent f ans will always know a different maurice than I do. 1295 01:50:45,488 --> 01:50:49,090 There's a personality and a whole history that I know about maurice 1296 01:50:49,191 --> 01:50:51,493 that people will never know, and that's the person I miss. 1297 01:50:51,594 --> 01:50:55,030 But I... The music is there... He lives on with music, 1298 01:50:55,131 --> 01:50:59,167 and on the radio, when I hear a song with him, that's... he's still alive. 1299 01:50:59,268 --> 01:51:03,605 - Robin and I love music so much... - Yes. 1300 01:51:03,706 --> 01:51:06,207 ..and it's so ingrained in our souls 1301 01:51:06,308 --> 01:51:09,811 that we don't know how to move away f rom it. 1302 01:51:09,912 --> 01:51:15,083 I think it's important, also, f or maurice's memory, his legacy, just as much. 1303 01:51:15,184 --> 01:51:19,020 The legacy of the Bee Gees must go on, one way or the other. 1304 01:51:39,942 --> 01:51:44,312 It's been a few years since we've heard our voices together. 1305 01:51:51,987 --> 01:51:55,724 Maurice's death left a kind of emotional vacuum between the two of us 1306 01:51:55,825 --> 01:51:59,861 because Barry had a way of dealing with it, I have my way of dealing with it. 1307 01:51:59,962 --> 01:52:04,332 A few years have passed now, we're able to see each other in a different way. 1308 01:52:04,433 --> 01:52:08,837 We're beginning to behave the way we always did, before moe died. 1309 01:52:42,104 --> 01:52:44,806 Because of what happened with maurice... 1310 01:52:44,907 --> 01:52:48,343 Barry had a way of expressing his way... 1311 01:52:48,444 --> 01:52:50,345 I was pulverized. 1312 01:52:50,446 --> 01:52:55,650 I had no passion or interest in continuing at all. 1313 01:52:55,751 --> 01:52:58,720 Robin went the opposite direction and had to keep moving. 1314 01:52:58,821 --> 01:53:01,122 I wanted to keep the Bee Gees as the three of us. 1315 01:53:01,223 --> 01:53:05,660 I wanted that to be the only thing anyone ever saw again. 1316 01:54:12,528 --> 01:54:14,095 We still have a lot of music in us, 1317 01:54:14,196 --> 01:54:17,265 because we've already written one song together this week. 1318 01:54:17,366 --> 01:54:22,837 I now know inside that what we will do will be good. 1319 01:54:22,938 --> 01:54:27,942 It's time f or us now to move on without ever letting go of Moe. 1320 01:54:47,129 --> 01:54:50,298 The blend of the voices is great. Even I get nostalgic. 1321 01:54:51,533 --> 01:54:54,035 I feel more every day as I go, 1322 01:54:54,136 --> 01:54:58,506 f ortunate to be born into a f amily where Barry is my brother 1323 01:54:58,607 --> 01:55:00,642 because I get to work with him. 1324 01:55:00,743 --> 01:55:03,544 I mean, one of the greatest pop writers of all time. 1325 01:55:03,646 --> 01:55:08,716 I mean, there's no... In all the billions of f amilies that are born in the world, 1326 01:55:08,817 --> 01:55:10,785 I got to be born in the f amily with him. 1327 01:55:10,886 --> 01:55:14,355 How good can it get? 1328 01:55:14,456 --> 01:55:19,360 - I mean that's...that's real. - Well, it gets...what it gets is mutual. 1329 01:55:19,461 --> 01:55:21,095 What it gets is mutual. 1330 01:55:21,196 --> 01:55:23,431 What you draw f rom me, I draw f rom you. 1331 01:55:23,532 --> 01:55:28,336 And I look f orward to the next time that we can concoct something 1332 01:55:28,437 --> 01:55:31,873 that we both look at each other and say, ''There, that's it.'' 1333 01:55:31,974 --> 01:55:34,208 - That's all I care about. - Me too. 122579

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