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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:09,809 --> 00:00:12,612 - Hollywood is glitz, glamour. 2 00:00:13,747 --> 00:00:18,284 There is no way to separate Los Angeles from the movies. 3 00:00:18,318 --> 00:00:20,887 It'd be like if you ripped the beating heart 4 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:22,389 out of someone's chest. 5 00:00:22,422 --> 00:00:24,424 You can't do it. 6 00:00:24,457 --> 00:00:27,660 - The film industry was always baked into LA, in its history. 7 00:00:27,694 --> 00:00:30,163 And back in the '90s, Larry Austin 8 00:00:30,196 --> 00:00:31,664 was the keeper of the flame. 9 00:00:31,698 --> 00:00:34,901 He was the high priest of silent cinema. 10 00:00:34,934 --> 00:00:36,503 - The Silent Movie Theater 11 00:00:36,536 --> 00:00:38,905 was Larry Austin's lifelong passion. 12 00:00:38,938 --> 00:00:41,875 But like so many dreams in the City of Angels, 13 00:00:41,908 --> 00:00:43,910 it all came crashing down. 14 00:00:43,943 --> 00:00:46,079 [suspenseful music] 15 00:00:46,112 --> 00:00:49,616 - The murder shocked everybody because it came out of nowhere. 16 00:00:49,649 --> 00:00:51,151 [gunshots] 17 00:00:51,184 --> 00:00:53,420 And then you find out that what was real... 18 00:00:53,453 --> 00:00:54,387 [gunshot] 19 00:00:54,421 --> 00:00:56,923 Was a lot different than what you're seeing. 20 00:00:56,956 --> 00:00:59,559 - The city itself is all make-believe. 21 00:00:59,592 --> 00:01:02,262 What you see is not what you get. 22 00:01:02,295 --> 00:01:04,097 - They didn't know they were being victimized. 23 00:01:04,130 --> 00:01:06,099 - There was a secret liaison. 24 00:01:06,132 --> 00:01:08,635 - The assets of the Silent Movie Theater 25 00:01:08,668 --> 00:01:11,304 included cash, original prints, and films. 26 00:01:11,338 --> 00:01:14,474 - His estate was about $3 million to $3 1/2 million. 27 00:01:14,507 --> 00:01:18,445 - People have died for so much less than $3.5 million. 28 00:01:18,478 --> 00:01:20,647 Detectives, of course, had one question. 29 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,850 Who benefits? 30 00:01:23,883 --> 00:01:27,087 [dramatic music] 31 00:01:27,087 --> 00:01:34,194 * * 32 00:01:39,399 --> 00:01:41,968 - Los Angeles in the late 1990s 33 00:01:42,002 --> 00:01:44,170 was a city spreading its wings to embrace 34 00:01:44,204 --> 00:01:45,739 an exciting new future. 35 00:01:45,772 --> 00:01:47,674 - Back then, we were coming out of the scourge 36 00:01:47,707 --> 00:01:51,311 of the crack epidemic, with its violent crime activity. 37 00:01:51,344 --> 00:01:54,948 There was definitely some transitioning going on. 38 00:01:54,981 --> 00:01:57,550 - Los Angeles was undergoing a metamorphosis, 39 00:01:57,584 --> 00:02:01,588 and there was an explosion of culture. 40 00:02:01,621 --> 00:02:04,224 There was an influx of skater kids. 41 00:02:04,257 --> 00:02:08,728 There was a lot being tried out that was new and different 42 00:02:08,762 --> 00:02:10,163 in West Coast rap. 43 00:02:10,196 --> 00:02:14,334 It was misfits and mad geniuses. 44 00:02:14,367 --> 00:02:18,538 LA in the 1990s, it was a really cool place to be. 45 00:02:18,571 --> 00:02:20,507 - But as the city transformed, 46 00:02:20,540 --> 00:02:22,976 people who wanted to connect with old Los Angeles 47 00:02:23,076 --> 00:02:25,645 could still find it at the Silent Movie Theater 48 00:02:25,679 --> 00:02:28,915 in the local Fairfax District. 49 00:02:28,948 --> 00:02:31,451 - My name is Joan Renner, and I'm an author, 50 00:02:31,484 --> 00:02:33,353 investigative historian. 51 00:02:33,386 --> 00:02:36,890 And I cover LA cases, old ones primarily. 52 00:02:36,923 --> 00:02:41,094 The Silent Movie Theater, they had a dedicated audience 53 00:02:41,094 --> 00:02:43,596 who went, really, every week. 54 00:02:43,630 --> 00:02:46,700 It drew people like me, who loved movies. 55 00:02:46,733 --> 00:02:48,968 - But the feeling of magic and wonder 56 00:02:49,002 --> 00:02:53,206 would be forever silenced on January 17, 1997. 57 00:02:53,239 --> 00:02:56,409 * * 58 00:02:56,443 --> 00:02:59,012 - The Silent Movie Theater was going to have 59 00:02:59,112 --> 00:03:01,514 its sixth-year anniversary. 60 00:03:01,548 --> 00:03:05,719 And there was that feeling of sort of a Hollywood premiere. 61 00:03:05,752 --> 00:03:10,290 Lawrence Austin, the owner, was very excited about it. 62 00:03:10,323 --> 00:03:12,492 In the auditorium, people are laughing. 63 00:03:12,525 --> 00:03:13,793 They're having a good time. 64 00:03:13,827 --> 00:03:15,662 But there's a noise. There's a pop... 65 00:03:15,695 --> 00:03:16,796 [gunshot] 66 00:03:16,830 --> 00:03:18,665 Like someone dropped a light bulb. 67 00:03:18,698 --> 00:03:20,533 And then there was a louder pop. 68 00:03:20,567 --> 00:03:22,068 [gunshot] 69 00:03:22,102 --> 00:03:25,505 And that's when the audience realized that it's a gunshot. 70 00:03:25,538 --> 00:03:28,908 They start to drop to the floor. 71 00:03:28,942 --> 00:03:30,377 [gunshot] 72 00:03:30,410 --> 00:03:32,612 * * 73 00:03:32,645 --> 00:03:34,948 - I'm LAPD Deputy Chief Alan Hamilton. 74 00:03:34,981 --> 00:03:38,752 Friday, January 17th, while I'm out at dinner, 75 00:03:38,785 --> 00:03:39,686 my pager goes off. 76 00:03:39,719 --> 00:03:42,088 We just had a shooting over on Fairfax 77 00:03:42,122 --> 00:03:43,823 at the Silent Movie Theater. 78 00:03:43,857 --> 00:03:46,860 When I arrived at the location, there were a number of people 79 00:03:46,893 --> 00:03:48,395 outside of the theater. 80 00:03:48,428 --> 00:03:50,697 I found out from the officers 81 00:03:50,730 --> 00:03:54,100 that we have two people down in the lobby. 82 00:03:54,134 --> 00:03:57,370 And one of them did not survive. 83 00:03:57,404 --> 00:03:59,105 - Detectives quickly head inside 84 00:03:59,139 --> 00:04:02,375 to take in the devastation the killer left behind. 85 00:04:02,409 --> 00:04:04,344 Near the entrance to the lobby, 86 00:04:04,377 --> 00:04:06,513 paramedics are working furiously 87 00:04:06,546 --> 00:04:08,348 to save the life of a victim 88 00:04:08,381 --> 00:04:10,517 who's quickly losing consciousness. 89 00:04:10,550 --> 00:04:12,052 - My name is John Miller. 90 00:04:12,052 --> 00:04:14,487 In January of 1997, 91 00:04:14,521 --> 00:04:16,456 I was working out of the Homicide Unit 92 00:04:16,489 --> 00:04:19,559 of the Hollywood Division of the LAPD. 93 00:04:19,592 --> 00:04:21,695 One victim was just a young girl 94 00:04:21,728 --> 00:04:22,929 that worked at the theater. 95 00:04:22,962 --> 00:04:27,133 She was 19, and her name was Mary Giles. 96 00:04:27,167 --> 00:04:29,836 The detective knew her 97 00:04:29,869 --> 00:04:31,671 because her grandfather 98 00:04:31,705 --> 00:04:35,508 was a retired Los Angeles police officer. 99 00:04:35,542 --> 00:04:37,677 She was immediately taken by rescue 100 00:04:37,711 --> 00:04:40,714 to Cedars because she had a gunshot wound to her chest. 101 00:04:40,747 --> 00:04:42,816 * * 102 00:04:42,849 --> 00:04:44,918 - When Detective Miller and I went through the lobby, 103 00:04:44,951 --> 00:04:47,821 we see a second victim behind the concession counter. 104 00:04:47,854 --> 00:04:49,422 He was deceased. 105 00:04:49,456 --> 00:04:51,091 Witnesses that had come out told us 106 00:04:51,091 --> 00:04:54,661 this was the owner of the theater, Lawrence Austin. 107 00:04:54,694 --> 00:04:59,165 - Mr. Austin is an elderly white male, 74 years of age. 108 00:04:59,199 --> 00:05:01,167 And he was on the floor. 109 00:05:01,201 --> 00:05:03,536 * * 110 00:05:03,570 --> 00:05:06,106 I saw three distinct bullet wounds-- 111 00:05:06,139 --> 00:05:07,841 one in the head, one in the torso, 112 00:05:07,874 --> 00:05:10,543 and then there was one in the upper thigh. 113 00:05:10,577 --> 00:05:12,045 But we didn't find a gun. 114 00:05:12,078 --> 00:05:15,415 - And we were not able to find any shell casings. 115 00:05:15,448 --> 00:05:17,951 * * 116 00:05:18,051 --> 00:05:20,053 - When I looked down at the body, 117 00:05:20,086 --> 00:05:21,955 there was a bag of money. 118 00:05:22,055 --> 00:05:23,790 It was less than $500. 119 00:05:23,823 --> 00:05:26,059 Some of the money was even bloodied. 120 00:05:26,059 --> 00:05:28,161 * * 121 00:05:28,194 --> 00:05:29,596 - In the Hollywood area, 122 00:05:29,629 --> 00:05:32,532 there had been a high incidence of robbery 123 00:05:32,565 --> 00:05:35,735 at that time of the night. 124 00:05:35,769 --> 00:05:37,871 So we were open to the possibility 125 00:05:37,904 --> 00:05:39,673 that it was a robbery gone bad. 126 00:05:39,706 --> 00:05:41,574 And, you know, maybe it's someone 127 00:05:41,608 --> 00:05:43,576 that was not a mature criminal, 128 00:05:43,610 --> 00:05:48,114 and they just panicked and fled without all the cash. 129 00:05:48,148 --> 00:05:50,216 * * 130 00:05:50,250 --> 00:05:51,751 There was blood spatter, 131 00:05:51,785 --> 00:05:54,320 and then there was a blood smear 132 00:05:54,354 --> 00:05:56,656 on the counter and some of the glass. 133 00:05:56,690 --> 00:05:59,793 - In order to unpack exactly what happened that night, 134 00:05:59,826 --> 00:06:02,228 detectives head outside to interview 135 00:06:02,262 --> 00:06:04,397 some of the witnesses. 136 00:06:04,431 --> 00:06:06,733 - We had some of the patrons that were there 137 00:06:06,766 --> 00:06:10,170 that were crying and some that were very physically shaken up. 138 00:06:10,203 --> 00:06:12,906 We were told there had been a movie going on, 139 00:06:12,939 --> 00:06:15,208 and this person came in the lobby 140 00:06:15,241 --> 00:06:16,776 and shot these two people. 141 00:06:16,810 --> 00:06:19,112 Then the individual fired rounds 142 00:06:19,145 --> 00:06:20,947 inside of the theater in the dark, 143 00:06:21,047 --> 00:06:24,250 possibly to scare the crowd. 144 00:06:24,284 --> 00:06:26,453 Then that suspect ran out the back door 145 00:06:26,486 --> 00:06:29,055 into the alley that parallels Fairfax 146 00:06:29,055 --> 00:06:31,124 and fled from the area. 147 00:06:31,157 --> 00:06:34,260 - Running out the back, firing rounds into the theater, 148 00:06:34,294 --> 00:06:37,063 that didn't make sense. 149 00:06:37,063 --> 00:06:40,233 With robberies, you come and take the money, and you leave. 150 00:06:40,266 --> 00:06:42,635 - I just don't know a whole lot of criminal suspects 151 00:06:42,669 --> 00:06:43,903 that are going to go 152 00:06:43,937 --> 00:06:45,105 towards the maximum number of witnesses. 153 00:06:45,138 --> 00:06:50,076 But, unfortunately, no one had seen his facial features. 154 00:06:50,110 --> 00:06:52,979 - After that, we walked through the theater. 155 00:06:53,079 --> 00:06:56,082 Then we noticed that there was a couple of bullet holes 156 00:06:56,116 --> 00:06:57,150 high on the wall. 157 00:06:57,183 --> 00:06:59,285 * * 158 00:06:59,319 --> 00:07:03,490 - A young man that identified himself as James Van Sickle, 159 00:07:03,523 --> 00:07:05,158 who was the projectionist, 160 00:07:05,191 --> 00:07:07,861 he assisted us by obtaining a ladder 161 00:07:07,894 --> 00:07:10,530 to look up at the wall to see if that was actually 162 00:07:10,563 --> 00:07:12,565 a bullet impact, which it was. 163 00:07:12,599 --> 00:07:14,734 * * 164 00:07:14,768 --> 00:07:16,670 - Our Scientific Investigation Division 165 00:07:16,703 --> 00:07:18,304 dug the bullet out of the wall. 166 00:07:18,338 --> 00:07:20,173 And we could tell that it was 167 00:07:20,206 --> 00:07:23,777 a .357 magnum bullet. 168 00:07:23,810 --> 00:07:26,112 - We also had a fingerprint technician come in. 169 00:07:26,146 --> 00:07:27,547 They dust. 170 00:07:27,580 --> 00:07:30,216 They do laser analysis, spectrum wave analysis 171 00:07:30,250 --> 00:07:33,553 for both trace evidence and for fingerprints. 172 00:07:33,586 --> 00:07:35,555 We try to get things like footprints. 173 00:07:35,588 --> 00:07:38,892 But, forensically, we didn't really find anything 174 00:07:38,925 --> 00:07:40,960 that was immediately identifiable. 175 00:07:41,061 --> 00:07:43,163 * * 176 00:07:43,196 --> 00:07:45,765 - While the CSI team continues to scrub 177 00:07:45,799 --> 00:07:49,602 the scene for evidence, detectives ask Van Sickle 178 00:07:49,636 --> 00:07:52,105 what he knows about the victims. 179 00:07:52,138 --> 00:07:55,342 - He appeared distraught about what occurred with Miss Giles 180 00:07:55,375 --> 00:07:57,177 and with Mr. Austin. 181 00:07:57,210 --> 00:07:59,546 He told us that he worked at the theater 182 00:07:59,579 --> 00:08:01,081 for quite some period of time. 183 00:08:01,114 --> 00:08:02,916 And he was helpful, 184 00:08:03,016 --> 00:08:05,352 in terms of giving us background information. 185 00:08:05,385 --> 00:08:07,520 * * 186 00:08:07,554 --> 00:08:08,922 - My name is Michael F. Blake, 187 00:08:09,022 --> 00:08:12,892 and I was friends with Larry Austin. 188 00:08:12,926 --> 00:08:17,163 Larry's death hit everybody hard 189 00:08:17,197 --> 00:08:21,701 in the silent-movie community, because he was very kind. 190 00:08:21,735 --> 00:08:23,737 And the Silent Movie Theater 191 00:08:23,770 --> 00:08:27,040 was the only silent-movie theater 192 00:08:27,073 --> 00:08:28,508 in the world. 193 00:08:28,541 --> 00:08:30,076 * * 194 00:08:30,110 --> 00:08:33,079 - It was founded by a young couple in the 1940s 195 00:08:33,113 --> 00:08:35,181 who loved movies. 196 00:08:35,215 --> 00:08:37,384 Lawrence went to Fairfax High School 197 00:08:37,417 --> 00:08:38,718 in the 1940s. 198 00:08:38,752 --> 00:08:40,487 And he lived just a couple of blocks 199 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:45,158 away from the movie theater, so he became obsessed with it. 200 00:08:45,191 --> 00:08:48,328 John and Dorothy Hammond, who owned the theater at the time, 201 00:08:48,361 --> 00:08:50,530 really took Larry in kind of as a son 202 00:08:50,563 --> 00:08:53,667 because he loved the theater so much. 203 00:08:53,700 --> 00:08:57,771 But then the theater shuttered in 1979. 204 00:08:57,804 --> 00:09:02,609 And it just sat there, derelict and neglected and vacant. 205 00:09:02,642 --> 00:09:07,781 And John Hammond died in 1990. 206 00:09:07,814 --> 00:09:10,417 Running a theater was not something his widow 207 00:09:10,450 --> 00:09:11,785 wanted to do on her own. 208 00:09:11,818 --> 00:09:14,654 What she did was instead sign it over to Larry. 209 00:09:14,688 --> 00:09:17,857 And he just breathed new life into it. 210 00:09:17,891 --> 00:09:19,659 He fixed the broken seats. 211 00:09:19,693 --> 00:09:22,562 He did everything to really spruce the place up. 212 00:09:22,595 --> 00:09:24,731 * * 213 00:09:24,764 --> 00:09:26,166 - My name is Chris Perkins, 214 00:09:26,199 --> 00:09:30,370 and I met Larry Austin in 1993. 215 00:09:30,403 --> 00:09:31,771 He looked like a classic, 216 00:09:31,805 --> 00:09:34,774 quintessential kind of fringe Hollywood character. 217 00:09:34,808 --> 00:09:36,276 He would wear these leisure suits. 218 00:09:36,309 --> 00:09:38,445 And he had this red turban of hair 219 00:09:38,478 --> 00:09:39,679 that kind of flopped over, 220 00:09:39,713 --> 00:09:41,648 but he would wrap it around his head. 221 00:09:41,681 --> 00:09:43,049 And the Silent Movie Theater 222 00:09:43,049 --> 00:09:45,318 was a reflection of his persona. 223 00:09:45,352 --> 00:09:48,788 * * 224 00:09:48,822 --> 00:09:52,092 - When the Silent Movie Theater 225 00:09:52,125 --> 00:09:53,293 reopened under Larry in 1991, 226 00:09:53,326 --> 00:09:55,061 he pulled out all the stops. 227 00:09:55,061 --> 00:09:58,064 He had lights up in the sky like an old movie premiere. 228 00:09:58,098 --> 00:10:02,168 And there was a guy there with a bagpipe playing 229 00:10:02,202 --> 00:10:04,004 as the audience came in. 230 00:10:04,037 --> 00:10:07,674 And it gave us a sense of Old Hollywood 231 00:10:07,707 --> 00:10:10,443 that maybe never really existed, 232 00:10:10,477 --> 00:10:12,479 but you felt it existed. 233 00:10:12,512 --> 00:10:14,647 * * 234 00:10:14,681 --> 00:10:16,616 Larry loved what he did. 235 00:10:16,649 --> 00:10:21,187 He loved walking down the aisle to "Pomp and Circumstance" 236 00:10:21,221 --> 00:10:24,691 and saying to everybody, hello, welcome to the world's 237 00:10:24,724 --> 00:10:26,893 only silent-movie theater. 238 00:10:26,926 --> 00:10:29,662 And one of the great things Larry did, 239 00:10:29,696 --> 00:10:33,166 he managed to bring in a whole new audience 240 00:10:33,199 --> 00:10:34,901 of younger people. 241 00:10:34,934 --> 00:10:37,470 They loved it. It was a godsend. 242 00:10:37,504 --> 00:10:39,706 - Larry Austin was the high priest of silent cinema. 243 00:10:39,739 --> 00:10:41,708 He was the last man on Earth 244 00:10:41,741 --> 00:10:43,810 that was the keeper of the flame. 245 00:10:43,843 --> 00:10:46,813 * * 246 00:10:46,846 --> 00:10:49,516 After he had died, people were heartbroken. 247 00:10:49,549 --> 00:10:50,884 They were shocked. 248 00:10:50,917 --> 00:10:52,519 He was a great person, 249 00:10:52,552 --> 00:10:54,721 important to the cinematic community. 250 00:10:54,754 --> 00:10:56,956 Everybody was trying to figure out 251 00:10:56,990 --> 00:10:59,759 who would want to murder Larry, and there was no answer. 252 00:10:59,793 --> 00:11:02,062 In my mind, he had no enemies. 253 00:11:02,062 --> 00:11:04,264 - The fact that Larry had no known enemies 254 00:11:04,297 --> 00:11:06,433 gives credence to the theory that this 255 00:11:06,466 --> 00:11:08,468 was a robbery gone wrong. 256 00:11:08,501 --> 00:11:12,072 But detectives fear their only opportunity to find the killer 257 00:11:12,072 --> 00:11:13,907 may be slipping away. 258 00:11:13,940 --> 00:11:15,675 - We quickly realized there's really 259 00:11:15,709 --> 00:11:20,347 only one person alive that got a good look at the murderer. 260 00:11:20,380 --> 00:11:23,750 And that's the other victim, Miss Giles. 261 00:11:23,783 --> 00:11:26,820 But she was severely traumatically injured, 262 00:11:26,853 --> 00:11:30,423 and we don't know if she's going to survive this. 263 00:11:30,457 --> 00:11:31,691 - Coming up... 264 00:11:31,725 --> 00:11:33,193 [gunshot] 265 00:11:33,226 --> 00:11:36,229 - They actually worked together at a company. 266 00:11:36,262 --> 00:11:38,965 So they knew each other. 267 00:11:38,998 --> 00:11:41,368 - We determined that he had actually 268 00:11:41,401 --> 00:11:43,903 served time for embezzlement. 269 00:11:43,937 --> 00:11:46,573 - He was charged with an attempted murder. 270 00:11:46,606 --> 00:11:48,208 [gunshot] 271 00:11:48,241 --> 00:11:50,944 - He looked at this composite of this murder suspect 272 00:11:50,977 --> 00:11:52,912 and said, this looks just like you. 273 00:11:52,946 --> 00:11:56,249 And he said, that is me. 274 00:11:56,282 --> 00:11:58,685 I'm the one who did the killing. 275 00:12:07,127 --> 00:12:09,562 [dramatic music] 276 00:12:09,829 --> 00:12:14,234 * * 277 00:12:14,267 --> 00:12:18,371 - In the early-morning hours of January 18, 1997, 278 00:12:18,405 --> 00:12:22,075 Detectives Miller and Hamilton race to Cedars-Sinai Hospital. 279 00:12:22,075 --> 00:12:24,444 They hope that Mary Giles survived the night. 280 00:12:24,477 --> 00:12:26,146 She may have been the only person 281 00:12:26,179 --> 00:12:28,081 to catch a glimpse of the shooter 282 00:12:28,081 --> 00:12:29,983 who killed Larry Austin in what appears 283 00:12:30,083 --> 00:12:33,319 to be a robbery gone wrong. 284 00:12:33,353 --> 00:12:35,288 - 6:00 or 7:00 in the morning, 285 00:12:35,321 --> 00:12:38,491 Al and I went to Cedars-Sinai Hospital 286 00:12:38,525 --> 00:12:41,094 to talk to Mary Giles. 287 00:12:41,094 --> 00:12:43,096 And I'm expecting she's going to be waiting, 288 00:12:43,096 --> 00:12:46,332 either for surgery or just come out of surgery. 289 00:12:46,366 --> 00:12:50,236 But when I get up to the room, Mary's standing up, 290 00:12:50,270 --> 00:12:53,473 and her cousins are dressing her. 291 00:12:53,506 --> 00:12:56,109 That bullet went from her chest to her shoulder 292 00:12:56,109 --> 00:12:58,945 and did not hit one vital organ. 293 00:13:00,380 --> 00:13:02,082 - Miss Giles was clearly traumatized. 294 00:13:02,115 --> 00:13:04,451 But she was going to survive. 295 00:13:04,484 --> 00:13:07,787 - She did ask about Mr. Austin, 296 00:13:07,821 --> 00:13:10,790 and I did tell her that he was dead. 297 00:13:10,824 --> 00:13:12,225 When I looked at her face, 298 00:13:12,258 --> 00:13:14,627 I could tell that it had saddened her. 299 00:13:14,661 --> 00:13:18,231 - As Mary begins to speak, her voice wavers. 300 00:13:18,264 --> 00:13:22,268 But she has a clear memory of how the night began. 301 00:13:22,302 --> 00:13:24,904 - She says, I was at the concession stand. 302 00:13:24,938 --> 00:13:26,406 I was reading a book. 303 00:13:26,439 --> 00:13:30,310 And a guy came in, and he asked to see the manager. 304 00:13:30,343 --> 00:13:32,612 - She had brought Mr. Austin over to him. 305 00:13:32,645 --> 00:13:35,949 And Mr. Austin went kind of behind the counter. 306 00:13:35,982 --> 00:13:38,118 And then the guy immediately drew a gun, 307 00:13:38,151 --> 00:13:40,353 demanded the money. 308 00:13:40,387 --> 00:13:44,090 * * 309 00:13:44,090 --> 00:13:46,626 And while Austin was putting the money in the bag, 310 00:13:46,659 --> 00:13:47,861 he just shot him... 311 00:13:47,894 --> 00:13:49,662 [gunshot] 312 00:13:49,696 --> 00:13:51,998 Point blank, right in the eye. 313 00:13:52,098 --> 00:13:54,234 * * 314 00:13:54,267 --> 00:13:56,936 - And then the shooter turns toward her. 315 00:13:56,970 --> 00:13:58,972 * * 316 00:13:59,005 --> 00:14:01,141 And he shoots her in the chest. 317 00:14:01,174 --> 00:14:02,042 [gunshot] 318 00:14:02,042 --> 00:14:03,843 And she goes down. 319 00:14:03,877 --> 00:14:06,479 - And then she heard two more shots... 320 00:14:06,513 --> 00:14:09,082 [gunshots] 321 00:14:09,115 --> 00:14:11,051 Which we know from our investigation 322 00:14:11,051 --> 00:14:14,187 that he went back and shot Austin twice. 323 00:14:14,220 --> 00:14:16,956 - At this point, she's got to be petrified 324 00:14:17,057 --> 00:14:19,459 because she doesn't know if he's going to come back 325 00:14:19,492 --> 00:14:21,628 and shoot her again. 326 00:14:21,661 --> 00:14:26,433 * * 327 00:14:26,466 --> 00:14:29,636 - Fortunately for us, Miss Giles had 328 00:14:29,669 --> 00:14:33,840 a clear recollection of what this individual looked like. 329 00:14:35,175 --> 00:14:37,077 - She did not recognize him. 330 00:14:37,077 --> 00:14:41,114 Well, she said that the suspect was a male Hispanic. 331 00:14:41,147 --> 00:14:44,084 He had dark hair, and he was holding a revolver. 332 00:14:44,084 --> 00:14:46,186 * * 333 00:14:46,219 --> 00:14:48,621 - Miss Giles remembered that the individual was dressed 334 00:14:48,655 --> 00:14:51,591 in, like, an artsy-type garb, 335 00:14:51,624 --> 00:14:54,094 wardrobe. 336 00:14:54,094 --> 00:14:57,464 But he was wearing an apple cap, like an artist cap, 337 00:14:57,497 --> 00:14:58,598 and a dark coat. 338 00:14:58,631 --> 00:15:01,901 - After speaking with Mary, detectives continue 339 00:15:01,935 --> 00:15:03,737 to ponder the robbery theory. 340 00:15:03,770 --> 00:15:06,039 But something is nagging at them. 341 00:15:06,072 --> 00:15:10,076 * * 342 00:15:10,110 --> 00:15:12,445 - What stood out with this shooting 343 00:15:12,479 --> 00:15:15,882 was that this individual would fire at someone 344 00:15:15,915 --> 00:15:19,252 after not encountering any kind of resistance to asking 345 00:15:19,285 --> 00:15:21,321 for money or anything else. 346 00:15:21,354 --> 00:15:24,090 And there was actually cash still there 347 00:15:24,124 --> 00:15:26,960 that hadn't been taken. 348 00:15:27,060 --> 00:15:30,363 So maybe that robbery is not the goal 349 00:15:30,397 --> 00:15:34,601 and is not the intended purpose of that violent act. 350 00:15:34,634 --> 00:15:36,903 - But if robbery wasn't the motive, 351 00:15:36,936 --> 00:15:40,707 was this a personal attack by someone Larry knew? 352 00:15:40,740 --> 00:15:43,910 Anxious to find out if there are any skeletons buried deep 353 00:15:43,943 --> 00:15:45,779 in Larry's closet, 354 00:15:45,812 --> 00:15:49,115 detectives begin tracking down those closest to him. 355 00:15:49,149 --> 00:15:52,252 - Three days after the murder, Monday, January 20th, 356 00:15:52,285 --> 00:15:55,722 the detectives go and speak to a nephew, Dennis Horner, 357 00:15:55,755 --> 00:16:00,060 to see if he can fill in some blanks for them. 358 00:16:00,093 --> 00:16:02,295 - When I talked to Dennis Horner, 359 00:16:02,328 --> 00:16:05,198 he told us that his uncle loved that theater 360 00:16:05,231 --> 00:16:10,036 and he had always been attached to silent movies. 361 00:16:10,036 --> 00:16:14,441 He wanted to be a part of the legacy of Hollywood. 362 00:16:14,474 --> 00:16:16,509 * * 363 00:16:16,543 --> 00:16:21,047 - He tells detectives, Larry often told people 364 00:16:21,081 --> 00:16:24,718 that his dad and his uncle 365 00:16:24,751 --> 00:16:26,519 were silent-film actors 366 00:16:26,553 --> 00:16:29,422 and his mother was a seamstress 367 00:16:29,456 --> 00:16:32,959 for the great director Cecil B. DeMille. 368 00:16:33,059 --> 00:16:35,762 But none of that was true. 369 00:16:35,795 --> 00:16:39,466 * * 370 00:16:39,499 --> 00:16:41,601 - His father was not in the business, 371 00:16:41,634 --> 00:16:45,138 nor did his mother make things for Cecil B. DeMille. 372 00:16:45,171 --> 00:16:48,375 The Larry Austin that was real was a lot different 373 00:16:48,408 --> 00:16:50,844 than the Larry Austin everybody knew 374 00:16:50,877 --> 00:16:53,646 at the Silent Movie Theater. 375 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,149 - I was not remotely shocked 376 00:16:56,182 --> 00:16:58,084 that he had created this fake biography 377 00:16:58,118 --> 00:17:00,253 because I think he genuinely had a passion 378 00:17:00,286 --> 00:17:02,756 for silent-movie history. 379 00:17:02,789 --> 00:17:05,125 - It's always the magic of the city. 380 00:17:05,158 --> 00:17:06,793 It's all make-believe. 381 00:17:06,826 --> 00:17:09,362 What you see is what they want you to see. 382 00:17:09,396 --> 00:17:11,297 Austin was a good example of that. 383 00:17:11,331 --> 00:17:15,502 He lied to make himself closer to this movie life 384 00:17:15,535 --> 00:17:17,470 that he wanted. 385 00:17:17,504 --> 00:17:20,874 - Larry's version of his life, as told by Larry Austin, 386 00:17:20,907 --> 00:17:23,576 was kind of like, well, if it isn't a true story, 387 00:17:23,610 --> 00:17:25,345 it should be. 388 00:17:25,378 --> 00:17:28,114 - If Larry was willing to lie to sew himself 389 00:17:28,148 --> 00:17:30,617 into the fabric of Hollywood history, 390 00:17:30,650 --> 00:17:32,786 just how far would he go 391 00:17:32,819 --> 00:17:35,121 to protect the image he had created? 392 00:17:35,155 --> 00:17:37,724 Had he crossed someone along the way? 393 00:17:37,757 --> 00:17:39,526 - As part of our investigation, 394 00:17:39,559 --> 00:17:42,228 we look into Mr. Austin's background, 395 00:17:42,262 --> 00:17:45,131 and we determine that he actually served time 396 00:17:45,165 --> 00:17:47,801 for embezzlement at a company that he worked at 397 00:17:47,834 --> 00:17:51,204 years prior to his ownership of the Silent Movie Theater. 398 00:17:51,237 --> 00:17:53,907 - Larry's white lies and past mistakes 399 00:17:53,940 --> 00:17:58,411 have detectives contemplating a new theory. 400 00:17:58,445 --> 00:18:01,114 - We thought that maybe the theater was struggling 401 00:18:01,147 --> 00:18:04,651 and he had embezzled from someone recent, 402 00:18:04,684 --> 00:18:07,020 because if you cheat the wrong person, 403 00:18:07,053 --> 00:18:10,123 it can create a motive for a murder. 404 00:18:20,900 --> 00:18:23,303 [dramatic music] 405 00:18:23,570 --> 00:18:27,374 * * 406 00:18:27,407 --> 00:18:29,542 - In January 1997, 407 00:18:29,576 --> 00:18:32,145 one week after the murder of Larry Austin, 408 00:18:32,178 --> 00:18:34,047 LAPD homicide detectives 409 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,383 have just learned that Mr. Austin 410 00:18:36,416 --> 00:18:38,518 has a history of financial crimes. 411 00:18:38,551 --> 00:18:40,787 And while investigators begin to unravel 412 00:18:40,820 --> 00:18:43,289 the mystery of Larry Austin's past, 413 00:18:43,323 --> 00:18:46,059 the media attention ramps up. 414 00:18:46,059 --> 00:18:48,528 - This is a case, it really does resonate with people. 415 00:18:48,561 --> 00:18:50,864 People were grieving, people locally, 416 00:18:50,897 --> 00:18:53,867 people from around the world, because he performed 417 00:18:53,900 --> 00:18:57,904 this important function, making this bridge between the past 418 00:18:57,937 --> 00:18:59,506 and the present. 419 00:18:59,539 --> 00:19:01,274 - It was devastating news to hear. 420 00:19:01,307 --> 00:19:03,610 He was a wonderful man. He was a great friend. 421 00:19:03,643 --> 00:19:06,579 - This is a man engaged in a gentle, quiet occupation 422 00:19:06,613 --> 00:19:10,316 who's brutally murdered in a place that he loves. 423 00:19:10,350 --> 00:19:12,152 - And it started getting the attention 424 00:19:12,185 --> 00:19:15,455 of a lot of the crime shows that were happening back then, 425 00:19:15,488 --> 00:19:17,924 including "America's Most Wanted." 426 00:19:18,024 --> 00:19:20,727 - The detectives agree to appear on the show. 427 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:24,330 And on the program, they interview the detectives 428 00:19:24,364 --> 00:19:25,765 about the crime scene. 429 00:19:25,799 --> 00:19:27,867 And they talk to James Van Sickle, 430 00:19:27,901 --> 00:19:32,305 who knew Larry very well and is the theater's projectionist. 431 00:19:32,339 --> 00:19:35,408 - Knowing that theater employee Mary Giles 432 00:19:35,442 --> 00:19:37,544 remembers the face of her attacker, 433 00:19:37,577 --> 00:19:40,580 the detectives decide to use the show's resources 434 00:19:40,613 --> 00:19:43,283 to help leverage that information. 435 00:19:43,316 --> 00:19:46,753 - The producers offered to not only profile it on their show 436 00:19:46,786 --> 00:19:48,855 but provide the forensic services 437 00:19:48,888 --> 00:19:52,058 of one of their sketch artists, Jeannie Boylan. 438 00:19:52,092 --> 00:19:55,729 So we picked Mary up and took her to meet with Miss Boylan 439 00:19:55,762 --> 00:19:58,098 and go over the incident at length. 440 00:19:58,131 --> 00:20:02,302 * * 441 00:20:02,335 --> 00:20:05,605 After we obtained the sketch, we released it to the media. 442 00:20:05,638 --> 00:20:07,607 And we then ran "America's Most Wanted" 443 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,943 nationwide so that we could get the sketch 444 00:20:09,976 --> 00:20:11,177 out there to the public. 445 00:20:11,211 --> 00:20:13,480 * * 446 00:20:13,513 --> 00:20:16,116 - To ensure maximum impact, 447 00:20:16,149 --> 00:20:19,319 the detectives up the ante. 448 00:20:19,352 --> 00:20:21,888 - LAPD offers a $25,000 reward. 449 00:20:21,921 --> 00:20:25,225 And so now they're ready to take tips 450 00:20:25,258 --> 00:20:27,260 from the public. 451 00:20:27,293 --> 00:20:29,829 This could be the making of the case right here. 452 00:20:29,863 --> 00:20:32,298 * * 453 00:20:32,332 --> 00:20:35,502 - As they wait to see the public response to the photo, 454 00:20:35,535 --> 00:20:38,138 detectives dig into Larry Austin's bank records 455 00:20:38,171 --> 00:20:41,341 and hope to find clues to lead them to the killer. 456 00:20:41,374 --> 00:20:45,478 - When we look back at Mr. Austin's finances, 457 00:20:45,512 --> 00:20:47,681 ownership of the theater, we determine 458 00:20:47,714 --> 00:20:50,984 that there was basically a little bit of a financial mess. 459 00:20:51,017 --> 00:20:54,387 And with Mr. Austin having a prior conviction 460 00:20:54,421 --> 00:20:56,456 for embezzlement, we needed to determine 461 00:20:56,489 --> 00:20:58,958 if that was perhaps a motive 462 00:20:58,992 --> 00:21:02,395 or perhaps somehow related to the murder. 463 00:21:02,429 --> 00:21:05,498 So, in order to unravel quite a document trail, 464 00:21:05,532 --> 00:21:07,667 we engaged our experts 465 00:21:07,701 --> 00:21:10,070 out of our Commercial Crimes Division. 466 00:21:10,070 --> 00:21:13,473 * * 467 00:21:13,506 --> 00:21:15,542 - My name is Detective Dave Harned. 468 00:21:15,575 --> 00:21:17,377 I was a detective assigned 469 00:21:17,410 --> 00:21:20,780 to Financial Crimes Division in 1997. 470 00:21:20,814 --> 00:21:23,850 The first thing we did was do search warrants 471 00:21:23,883 --> 00:21:27,587 on Larry Austin's accounts to see what was happening. 472 00:21:27,620 --> 00:21:30,657 - The value of the assets of the Silent Movie Theater 473 00:21:30,690 --> 00:21:34,494 included cash, property and original prints, 474 00:21:34,527 --> 00:21:36,563 original films. 475 00:21:36,596 --> 00:21:38,531 - We found that Larry Austin's estate 476 00:21:38,565 --> 00:21:41,968 was about $3 million to $3 1/2 million. 477 00:21:42,002 --> 00:21:43,803 - There's no sign of embezzlement, 478 00:21:43,837 --> 00:21:46,706 and it appears that most of Larry's wealth and accounts 479 00:21:46,740 --> 00:21:49,009 are connected to the operation of the theater. 480 00:21:49,109 --> 00:21:51,011 But as the Financial Crimes Unit 481 00:21:51,111 --> 00:21:53,380 continues to unravel the details, 482 00:21:53,413 --> 00:21:56,383 they find a potential smoking gun. 483 00:21:56,416 --> 00:21:58,451 - After his death, it appeared that money 484 00:21:58,485 --> 00:22:01,821 was being diverted out of the accounts of the victim. 485 00:22:01,855 --> 00:22:04,958 So we contacted the bank and asked for them 486 00:22:05,058 --> 00:22:07,794 to freeze the account. 487 00:22:07,827 --> 00:22:11,064 - And when detectives reached out to the bank, 488 00:22:11,064 --> 00:22:14,734 they realized that there were two signatures on the account. 489 00:22:14,768 --> 00:22:16,069 One was Larry. 490 00:22:16,102 --> 00:22:19,239 One was James Van Sickle. 491 00:22:19,272 --> 00:22:21,708 It's really odd. 492 00:22:21,741 --> 00:22:25,111 Why would the projectionist of the theater 493 00:22:25,145 --> 00:22:27,480 be sharing an account with the theater owner? 494 00:22:27,514 --> 00:22:29,983 * * 495 00:22:30,083 --> 00:22:32,118 - At this point, seven days after the shooting, 496 00:22:32,152 --> 00:22:34,087 we felt that it would be essential that we 497 00:22:34,120 --> 00:22:36,890 reinterview James Van Sickle. 498 00:22:36,923 --> 00:22:39,993 - Investigators quickly follow up with James Van Sickle 499 00:22:40,093 --> 00:22:42,429 to ask why he's diverting money 500 00:22:42,462 --> 00:22:44,097 from the victim's account. 501 00:22:44,097 --> 00:22:46,933 - During the interview, Mr. Van Sickle 502 00:22:46,966 --> 00:22:49,636 notified us that he and Lawrence Austin 503 00:22:49,669 --> 00:22:51,538 were business partners in the theater. 504 00:22:51,571 --> 00:22:53,673 * * 505 00:22:53,707 --> 00:22:56,676 - Van Sickle was 34 years old 506 00:22:56,710 --> 00:23:00,480 and had gotten a position in the theater as a projectionist 507 00:23:00,513 --> 00:23:02,549 five years before. 508 00:23:02,582 --> 00:23:04,517 And then after a while, 509 00:23:04,551 --> 00:23:08,588 Larry wanted him to be his business partner. 510 00:23:08,621 --> 00:23:10,557 - Mr. Van Sickle identified himself 511 00:23:10,590 --> 00:23:13,693 as the business manager of the corporation. 512 00:23:13,727 --> 00:23:15,729 So we thought that that was kind of strange 513 00:23:15,762 --> 00:23:18,732 because, initially, when we met with Mr. Van Sickle, 514 00:23:18,765 --> 00:23:21,167 he identified himself as the projectionist. 515 00:23:21,201 --> 00:23:24,871 He never really mentioned this information at all. 516 00:23:26,706 --> 00:23:29,509 - Detectives find out that a week after the murder, 517 00:23:29,542 --> 00:23:31,478 the theater was still open. 518 00:23:31,511 --> 00:23:34,180 So James Van Sickle told detectives, 519 00:23:34,214 --> 00:23:37,083 look, I'm still trying to operate the theater. 520 00:23:37,083 --> 00:23:38,651 I've got expenses. 521 00:23:38,685 --> 00:23:41,588 Freezing the account is not serving me well at all. 522 00:23:41,621 --> 00:23:45,091 I need to get to the money. 523 00:23:45,091 --> 00:23:47,560 - Van Sickle is very forthcoming, 524 00:23:47,594 --> 00:23:49,963 but with so much money involved, 525 00:23:49,996 --> 00:23:52,665 detectives can't take his story at face value 526 00:23:52,699 --> 00:23:56,002 and need to continue their questioning. 527 00:23:56,102 --> 00:24:00,140 - People have died for so much less than $3.5 million. 528 00:24:00,173 --> 00:24:01,508 Are you kidding? 529 00:24:01,541 --> 00:24:05,211 That kind of a motive is compelling. 530 00:24:05,245 --> 00:24:07,547 - We certainly had to look into the business 531 00:24:07,580 --> 00:24:10,216 to try and determine if that was somehow related 532 00:24:10,250 --> 00:24:11,918 to this violent act. 533 00:24:11,951 --> 00:24:15,155 And Mr. Van Sickle still had a lot of questions to answer. 534 00:24:23,063 --> 00:24:25,632 [dramatic music] 535 00:24:25,899 --> 00:24:31,204 * * 536 00:24:31,237 --> 00:24:34,207 - LAPD detectives have just learned that James Van Sickle 537 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,376 is more than just the projectionist 538 00:24:36,409 --> 00:24:37,844 at LA's Silent Movie Theater. 539 00:24:37,877 --> 00:24:39,579 He's the business partner 540 00:24:39,612 --> 00:24:42,882 of slain theater owner Larry Austin. 541 00:24:42,916 --> 00:24:45,552 So they continue to press him for details 542 00:24:45,585 --> 00:24:49,222 about his involvement in the business. 543 00:24:49,255 --> 00:24:50,824 - Mr. Austin had passed away, 544 00:24:50,857 --> 00:24:54,627 and there was still money being withdrawn from the account. 545 00:24:54,661 --> 00:24:57,263 So we were looking at why James Van Sickle 546 00:24:57,297 --> 00:24:59,566 was taking money. 547 00:24:59,599 --> 00:25:01,568 He was saying he needed those funds 548 00:25:01,601 --> 00:25:04,037 to help the theater go ahead. 549 00:25:04,037 --> 00:25:07,173 - Not only that, but he says, I'm having a special memorial 550 00:25:07,207 --> 00:25:11,678 for Larry at this trendy restaurant near the theater, 551 00:25:11,711 --> 00:25:14,614 and I'm running out of cash. 552 00:25:14,647 --> 00:25:16,816 - Then Van Sickle 553 00:25:16,850 --> 00:25:20,954 offers a completely unexpected admission. 554 00:25:21,054 --> 00:25:22,722 - Mr. Van Sickle became emotional, 555 00:25:22,756 --> 00:25:26,626 and he said there was more than just a business 556 00:25:26,659 --> 00:25:29,295 and friendship relationship. 557 00:25:29,329 --> 00:25:31,765 * * 558 00:25:31,798 --> 00:25:35,268 - He said, well, yeah, you know, 559 00:25:35,301 --> 00:25:39,072 Larry and I were originally lovers. 560 00:25:39,072 --> 00:25:40,974 * * 561 00:25:41,074 --> 00:25:43,810 - Mr. Austin was gay, but he wouldn't admit to it. 562 00:25:43,843 --> 00:25:47,947 He was not openly gay. 563 00:25:47,981 --> 00:25:51,484 This was a secret liaison 564 00:25:51,518 --> 00:25:53,820 with Van Sickle. 565 00:25:53,853 --> 00:25:56,623 - He said, our relationship ended amicably. 566 00:25:56,656 --> 00:25:59,559 And after that, I became a partner 567 00:25:59,592 --> 00:26:01,861 in the business. 568 00:26:01,895 --> 00:26:03,863 - It became clear that he had 569 00:26:03,897 --> 00:26:08,468 a pretty close relationship with Mr. Austin. 570 00:26:08,501 --> 00:26:12,105 And we felt that he could be a suspect in this murder. 571 00:26:12,138 --> 00:26:16,176 Maybe it's something personal between the two of them. 572 00:26:16,209 --> 00:26:18,078 But then you also start thinking, 573 00:26:18,111 --> 00:26:21,314 well, maybe it was one of those situations where Mr. Austin 574 00:26:21,348 --> 00:26:25,051 was maybe not able to take care of the business anymore, 575 00:26:25,051 --> 00:26:27,053 and Mr. Van Sickle was taking a greater role. 576 00:26:27,053 --> 00:26:29,756 So all of those questions were part of the discussion 577 00:26:29,789 --> 00:26:31,324 at that point. 578 00:26:31,358 --> 00:26:34,594 * * 579 00:26:34,627 --> 00:26:36,229 - While detectives contend 580 00:26:36,262 --> 00:26:38,498 with these lingering questions, 581 00:26:38,531 --> 00:26:41,067 Larry's friends celebrate a man 582 00:26:41,067 --> 00:26:44,671 who was larger than life. 583 00:26:44,704 --> 00:26:46,840 - Larry's funeral takes place 584 00:26:46,873 --> 00:26:49,843 at a Mormon church in North Hollywood. 585 00:26:49,876 --> 00:26:51,678 A lot of people were there that I knew 586 00:26:51,711 --> 00:26:53,079 from the Silent Movie Theater, 587 00:26:53,079 --> 00:26:56,649 either my friends or people I had seen 588 00:26:56,683 --> 00:27:00,353 at various screenings. 589 00:27:00,387 --> 00:27:02,522 - There were a lot of very interesting people 590 00:27:02,555 --> 00:27:04,224 giving tributes to Larry. 591 00:27:04,257 --> 00:27:06,393 They said that he was this high priest of silent cinema, 592 00:27:06,426 --> 00:27:08,661 you know, taking the torch from Valentino 593 00:27:08,695 --> 00:27:11,865 and D.W. Griffith. 594 00:27:11,898 --> 00:27:15,101 He genuinely had a passion for silent film. 595 00:27:15,135 --> 00:27:18,371 That was electrifying for him. 596 00:27:18,405 --> 00:27:22,042 - James Van Sickle purchased Larry's headstone. 597 00:27:22,075 --> 00:27:25,912 And it had Larry's name, birth, and death. 598 00:27:25,945 --> 00:27:29,182 And on the bottom, it said "the silent master." 599 00:27:29,215 --> 00:27:32,619 James chose somebody to sing "My Way," 600 00:27:32,652 --> 00:27:35,221 which kind of fits Larry. 601 00:27:35,255 --> 00:27:37,223 * * 602 00:27:37,257 --> 00:27:42,162 And I remember Larry's death hit everybody hard. 603 00:27:42,195 --> 00:27:45,331 And there were a lot of people that were sad that Larry died 604 00:27:45,365 --> 00:27:48,234 because his theater was kind of like a second home 605 00:27:48,268 --> 00:27:50,136 for a lot of us. 606 00:27:50,170 --> 00:27:52,539 - I was a pallbearer, along with James. 607 00:27:52,572 --> 00:27:54,708 And I remember James was getting very upset. 608 00:27:54,741 --> 00:27:56,109 He was shaking. 609 00:27:56,142 --> 00:27:58,378 And I went, and I put my arm around James. 610 00:27:58,411 --> 00:27:59,779 And, you know, he's crying, 611 00:27:59,813 --> 00:28:02,015 and I'm like, it's okay, buddy, it's okay. 612 00:28:02,015 --> 00:28:04,084 - The idea that this grieving man, 613 00:28:04,117 --> 00:28:06,786 one of Larry Austin's closest friends, 614 00:28:06,820 --> 00:28:09,322 had something to do with his murder 615 00:28:09,356 --> 00:28:10,857 is hard to believe. 616 00:28:10,890 --> 00:28:12,659 So detectives know they'll need to do 617 00:28:12,692 --> 00:28:15,462 some more digging into Van Sickle. 618 00:28:15,495 --> 00:28:20,033 But before they do, they receive a startling new lead. 619 00:28:21,768 --> 00:28:25,672 - The middle of February of 1997, we got a tip. 620 00:28:25,705 --> 00:28:28,208 And we meet this young man. 621 00:28:28,241 --> 00:28:30,443 He told us that he was friends with this guy, 622 00:28:30,477 --> 00:28:32,112 Christian Rodriguez. 623 00:28:32,145 --> 00:28:34,447 And he said, we were out driving 624 00:28:34,481 --> 00:28:35,815 a couple of nights ago, 625 00:28:35,849 --> 00:28:38,051 he says, and I had the paper. 626 00:28:38,051 --> 00:28:40,854 And I looked at the front page, 627 00:28:40,887 --> 00:28:44,057 and there was this composite of this murder suspect. 628 00:28:44,057 --> 00:28:46,493 And I showed it to Christian. 629 00:28:46,526 --> 00:28:49,062 And I said, this looks just like you. 630 00:28:49,062 --> 00:28:52,132 And Christian said, that is me. 631 00:28:52,165 --> 00:28:52,932 [gunshot] 632 00:28:52,966 --> 00:28:56,269 I'm the one who did the killing. 633 00:28:56,302 --> 00:28:59,072 * * 634 00:28:59,105 --> 00:29:02,442 After we got this information, we run Christian Rodriguez. 635 00:29:02,475 --> 00:29:05,612 And we get some hits on him... 636 00:29:05,645 --> 00:29:07,647 but no crimes of violence. 637 00:29:07,681 --> 00:29:09,015 They were misdemeanors. 638 00:29:09,049 --> 00:29:11,484 He was a very young kid, about 20. 639 00:29:11,518 --> 00:29:15,722 He wasn't what I would consider a hard-nosed criminal. 640 00:29:15,755 --> 00:29:17,424 We look at some of the photos, 641 00:29:17,457 --> 00:29:20,527 and the one photo looks exactly like the composite. 642 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,697 And so we realized that Christian Rodriguez 643 00:29:23,730 --> 00:29:25,432 might be the shooter. 644 00:29:25,465 --> 00:29:27,500 * * 645 00:29:27,534 --> 00:29:30,470 But then we needed a motive. 646 00:29:30,503 --> 00:29:34,341 - Investigators begin to dig into Rodriguez's background, 647 00:29:34,374 --> 00:29:38,345 looking for anything else that might tie him to the crime. 648 00:29:38,378 --> 00:29:43,049 - He was a very young kid, uneducated, unskilled. 649 00:29:43,049 --> 00:29:45,652 And he was struggling. He needed money. 650 00:29:45,685 --> 00:29:47,654 He wasn't going anywhere. 651 00:29:47,687 --> 00:29:50,390 He had a wife and a baby. 652 00:29:50,423 --> 00:29:52,926 - And then they hit on something 653 00:29:52,959 --> 00:29:55,762 that stops them dead in their tracks. 654 00:29:55,795 --> 00:29:57,831 - We look into his employment. 655 00:29:57,864 --> 00:30:00,000 Mr. Rodriguez had worked at R&D Lighting 656 00:30:00,033 --> 00:30:02,135 in Redondo Beach, California... 657 00:30:02,168 --> 00:30:04,137 with Mr. Van Sickle. 658 00:30:06,072 --> 00:30:09,743 - James Van Sickle and Christian Rodriguez actually 659 00:30:09,776 --> 00:30:12,846 worked together at a company. 660 00:30:12,879 --> 00:30:16,850 This is a breaking-wide-open moment. 661 00:30:16,883 --> 00:30:18,685 They knew each other. 662 00:30:27,093 --> 00:30:29,529 [dramatic music] 663 00:30:29,796 --> 00:30:34,534 * * 664 00:30:34,567 --> 00:30:37,537 - LAPD investigators have just learned that the man 665 00:30:37,570 --> 00:30:39,372 who may have shot Larry Austin, 666 00:30:39,406 --> 00:30:41,541 19-year-old Christian Rodriguez, 667 00:30:41,574 --> 00:30:44,010 once worked with their other key suspect, 668 00:30:44,044 --> 00:30:49,015 Larry's business partner and former lover James Van Sickle. 669 00:30:49,049 --> 00:30:50,784 And now there's no time to waste 670 00:30:50,817 --> 00:30:54,254 tracking Christian Rodriguez down to get some answers. 671 00:30:54,287 --> 00:30:56,723 * * 672 00:30:56,756 --> 00:31:00,260 - We set about to try and identify where he was living. 673 00:31:00,293 --> 00:31:03,063 And so of course, as these things happen, 674 00:31:03,063 --> 00:31:05,198 Christian Rodriguez was not actually living 675 00:31:05,231 --> 00:31:06,533 at his residential address. 676 00:31:06,566 --> 00:31:08,468 He had moved around quite a bit. 677 00:31:08,501 --> 00:31:11,571 - We didn't know exactly where he was. 678 00:31:11,604 --> 00:31:14,374 * * 679 00:31:14,407 --> 00:31:18,078 - They can't track down anyone in Rodriguez's family either. 680 00:31:18,078 --> 00:31:19,879 So detectives turn to the young man 681 00:31:19,913 --> 00:31:23,283 who told them about Christian in the first place for help. 682 00:31:23,316 --> 00:31:24,784 - We talked to him again, 683 00:31:24,818 --> 00:31:27,087 but he only knew Christian Rodriguez 684 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,089 kind of on the periphery. 685 00:31:29,089 --> 00:31:30,490 He didn't know where he lived 686 00:31:30,523 --> 00:31:33,793 or anything other than he was a friend. 687 00:31:33,827 --> 00:31:36,196 * * 688 00:31:36,229 --> 00:31:39,165 - Desperate to get a potential killer off the street, 689 00:31:39,199 --> 00:31:42,502 detectives dig for clues in Van Sickle's background 690 00:31:42,535 --> 00:31:45,939 and quickly realize that Rodriguez isn't the only one 691 00:31:45,972 --> 00:31:47,941 with a rap sheet. 692 00:31:47,974 --> 00:31:50,143 - What we determined was that James Van Sickle 693 00:31:50,176 --> 00:31:53,880 had a sordid criminal past. 694 00:31:53,913 --> 00:31:56,983 - James Van Sickle has been in trouble with the law 695 00:31:57,017 --> 00:31:58,451 more than once. 696 00:31:58,485 --> 00:32:03,456 And he also has had some violent encounters 697 00:32:03,490 --> 00:32:05,625 in his past. 698 00:32:05,658 --> 00:32:09,662 In 1989, he served time in Chino for selling drugs. 699 00:32:09,696 --> 00:32:11,197 [door slams] 700 00:32:11,231 --> 00:32:13,533 - In one case, he had brutally beat his boyfriend. 701 00:32:13,566 --> 00:32:16,870 And he was arrested for that also. 702 00:32:16,903 --> 00:32:19,873 - In 1988, Van Sickle's charged 703 00:32:19,906 --> 00:32:22,509 with an attempted murder in Compton. 704 00:32:22,542 --> 00:32:24,811 But the victim never showed up in court. 705 00:32:24,844 --> 00:32:28,181 - It was a shock to us at the time. 706 00:32:28,214 --> 00:32:30,216 - The detectives are stunned 707 00:32:30,250 --> 00:32:32,886 and begin to notice a troubling pattern 708 00:32:32,919 --> 00:32:35,655 in Van Sickle's history of violence. 709 00:32:35,689 --> 00:32:38,425 - It appeared that Mr. Van Sickle was involved 710 00:32:38,458 --> 00:32:40,894 in numerous incidents in the past, 711 00:32:40,927 --> 00:32:42,929 where he would establish a relationship 712 00:32:42,962 --> 00:32:44,564 with an older male. 713 00:32:44,597 --> 00:32:47,667 And these relationships typically ended the same way, 714 00:32:47,701 --> 00:32:49,302 with a violent encounter 715 00:32:49,336 --> 00:32:52,405 and him leaving with material goods from the relationship. 716 00:32:52,439 --> 00:32:54,674 - But the victims didn't want to prosecute, 717 00:32:54,708 --> 00:32:57,143 didn't want to follow up. 718 00:32:57,177 --> 00:33:00,447 - In the 1980s, if the guy was an older man, 719 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,483 he might have been closeted, and he would have been 720 00:33:03,516 --> 00:33:06,886 very reluctant to come out and press charges. 721 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,222 It makes you a topic for conversations 722 00:33:09,255 --> 00:33:11,224 you don't want people to have. 723 00:33:11,257 --> 00:33:14,728 This is how Van Sickle could victimize people 724 00:33:14,761 --> 00:33:18,465 in their own community and get away with it. 725 00:33:18,498 --> 00:33:20,700 - Larry Austin had a good amount of money. 726 00:33:20,734 --> 00:33:22,168 He was by himself. 727 00:33:22,202 --> 00:33:23,703 At the time, I'm just thinking, 728 00:33:23,737 --> 00:33:25,705 maybe Van Sickle became involved with him 729 00:33:25,739 --> 00:33:27,073 for the money. 730 00:33:27,073 --> 00:33:28,708 And it just went downhill from there, 731 00:33:28,742 --> 00:33:30,643 to the point where Van Sickle put his name 732 00:33:30,677 --> 00:33:33,313 on the victim's accounts to control the money, 733 00:33:33,346 --> 00:33:36,483 then hires a hit man to kill Larry Austin. 734 00:33:36,516 --> 00:33:37,717 [gunshot] 735 00:33:37,751 --> 00:33:40,587 And when he was murdered, the person who benefits most 736 00:33:40,620 --> 00:33:41,554 is Van Sickle. 737 00:33:41,588 --> 00:33:44,624 - And we felt Christian Rodriguez would be 738 00:33:44,657 --> 00:33:48,762 a perfect hit-man candidate because he needed the money. 739 00:33:48,795 --> 00:33:51,097 He was uneducated. 740 00:33:51,131 --> 00:33:54,734 He was not working a lot. 741 00:33:54,768 --> 00:33:56,536 He had a family. 742 00:33:56,569 --> 00:33:58,104 [gunshot] 743 00:33:58,104 --> 00:34:00,573 * * 744 00:34:00,607 --> 00:34:03,109 - But having a theory and proving it 745 00:34:03,143 --> 00:34:04,878 are two very different things. 746 00:34:04,911 --> 00:34:07,947 And investigators are still a long way 747 00:34:08,048 --> 00:34:09,716 from making an arrest. 748 00:34:09,749 --> 00:34:12,552 - James Van Sickle-- he may have hired a hit man. 749 00:34:12,585 --> 00:34:14,954 He may have known him, but you could still make the case 750 00:34:15,055 --> 00:34:17,290 that this kid did it on his own. 751 00:34:17,323 --> 00:34:20,060 So they need to really nail him down. 752 00:34:20,060 --> 00:34:21,528 They need a confession. 753 00:34:21,561 --> 00:34:24,664 * * 754 00:34:24,698 --> 00:34:28,234 - Detectives know it won't be an easy task. 755 00:34:28,268 --> 00:34:30,704 But once again, the media helps them 756 00:34:30,737 --> 00:34:32,939 get closer to catching the killer. 757 00:34:32,972 --> 00:34:34,974 * * 758 00:34:35,075 --> 00:34:37,777 - A confidential informant for the federal government 759 00:34:37,811 --> 00:34:39,479 was watching "America's Most Wanted" 760 00:34:39,512 --> 00:34:42,949 and spotted James on the show and recognized him. 761 00:34:42,982 --> 00:34:45,785 * * 762 00:34:45,819 --> 00:34:50,090 - He told us that Van Sickle had approached him months ago, 763 00:34:50,090 --> 00:34:54,094 months before the murder, to kill Austin. 764 00:34:54,094 --> 00:34:56,730 - Apparently Mr. Van Sickle had actually been 765 00:34:56,763 --> 00:34:59,566 in the Southeast Los Angeles area trying 766 00:34:59,599 --> 00:35:03,737 to find someone that could, as Mr. Van Sickle described it, 767 00:35:03,770 --> 00:35:06,039 help him out with a business matter. 768 00:35:06,072 --> 00:35:09,275 That's how James Van Sickle met up with the informant. 769 00:35:09,309 --> 00:35:11,644 - And this guy said, no, 770 00:35:11,678 --> 00:35:13,813 I didn't want anything to do with it. 771 00:35:13,847 --> 00:35:16,683 But now that he heard about the reward, 772 00:35:16,716 --> 00:35:19,652 he will turn on Van Sickle for us. 773 00:35:19,686 --> 00:35:21,821 * * 774 00:35:21,855 --> 00:35:24,657 - Detectives quickly put a plan into motion. 775 00:35:24,691 --> 00:35:27,560 The informant agrees to call Van Sickle 776 00:35:27,594 --> 00:35:30,263 on a recorded line an hour later. 777 00:35:30,296 --> 00:35:32,399 * * 778 00:35:32,432 --> 00:35:34,734 - So he called Van Sickle and said, 779 00:35:34,768 --> 00:35:37,671 hey, look, I heard about what happened at the theater. 780 00:35:37,704 --> 00:35:41,274 And I know you killed him, and I want $10,000, 781 00:35:41,307 --> 00:35:42,842 or I'm going to go to the police. 782 00:35:42,876 --> 00:35:46,646 Van Sickle went, hey, don't worry, I'll get you the money. 783 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,848 I'm going to take care of everything. 784 00:35:48,882 --> 00:35:51,351 This was important because we have 785 00:35:51,384 --> 00:35:54,821 Van Sickle making some admission for the first time. 786 00:35:54,854 --> 00:35:58,091 And then Van Sickle called us, and he said, 787 00:35:58,091 --> 00:36:00,427 I want my money right now. 788 00:36:00,460 --> 00:36:02,429 - He was very upset because of the fact 789 00:36:02,462 --> 00:36:03,897 that the funds were still frozen. 790 00:36:03,930 --> 00:36:07,867 - So we went to the IRS, and they removed the freeze 791 00:36:07,901 --> 00:36:09,869 on Austin's bank accounts. 792 00:36:09,903 --> 00:36:13,139 So I go back, and I told Van Sickle 793 00:36:13,173 --> 00:36:14,240 that I got it released to him, 794 00:36:14,274 --> 00:36:17,811 because, I said, I know you need money to live on. 795 00:36:17,844 --> 00:36:20,580 - So the bank released the money to James. 796 00:36:20,613 --> 00:36:24,884 And when James leaves the bank with this $10,000 797 00:36:24,918 --> 00:36:27,187 in his possession, 798 00:36:27,220 --> 00:36:28,621 he doesn't know it, 799 00:36:28,655 --> 00:36:32,125 but he's leading a parade of "plainclothesed" cops. 800 00:36:32,158 --> 00:36:35,428 * * 801 00:36:35,462 --> 00:36:37,630 - The LAPD is already in position 802 00:36:37,664 --> 00:36:39,933 with their confidential informant wired up 803 00:36:39,966 --> 00:36:42,469 and the surveillance team dead focused 804 00:36:42,502 --> 00:36:45,138 on Van Sickle's every move. 805 00:36:45,171 --> 00:36:49,442 - There are six or eight, at least, cars following him. 806 00:36:49,476 --> 00:36:52,846 They go to James's apartment complex. 807 00:36:52,879 --> 00:36:56,082 And James pulls into the subterranean garage. 808 00:36:56,116 --> 00:36:58,885 And he's ready to meet the confidential informant, 809 00:36:58,918 --> 00:37:01,121 who comes up. 810 00:37:01,154 --> 00:37:03,323 - The informant approaches him, 811 00:37:03,356 --> 00:37:05,492 wired up with a microphone. 812 00:37:05,525 --> 00:37:08,828 And he's irate and wants his money. 813 00:37:08,862 --> 00:37:11,364 We told him we wanted him to get Van Sickle 814 00:37:11,398 --> 00:37:13,033 to admit to the killing. 815 00:37:13,033 --> 00:37:17,937 * * 816 00:37:18,038 --> 00:37:22,242 And, finally, Van Sickle started talking. 817 00:37:29,949 --> 00:37:32,385 [dramatic music] 818 00:37:32,652 --> 00:37:36,890 * * 819 00:37:36,923 --> 00:37:39,192 - On March 8, 1997, 820 00:37:39,225 --> 00:37:42,829 almost two months after the murder of Larry Austin, 821 00:37:42,862 --> 00:37:45,498 LAPD investigators are surveilling 822 00:37:45,532 --> 00:37:48,501 suspected murderer James Van Sickle 823 00:37:48,535 --> 00:37:51,338 as he speaks to their wired informant. 824 00:37:51,371 --> 00:37:53,306 - Van Sickle started talking. 825 00:37:53,340 --> 00:37:55,742 And, finally, Van Sickle admits, 826 00:37:55,775 --> 00:37:59,079 you know, yes, you know, I did want him killed. 827 00:37:59,079 --> 00:38:03,883 I got the money, and I'll give you the $10,000. 828 00:38:03,917 --> 00:38:06,820 - At this point, we make a determination 829 00:38:06,853 --> 00:38:09,289 that all of the information that we needed 830 00:38:09,322 --> 00:38:10,924 was obtained in that recording. 831 00:38:11,024 --> 00:38:14,027 We then move in to arrest James Van Sickle. 832 00:38:14,027 --> 00:38:16,029 * * 833 00:38:16,029 --> 00:38:18,198 And we take Mr. Van Sickle into custody. 834 00:38:18,231 --> 00:38:21,935 * * 835 00:38:22,035 --> 00:38:23,403 - We talked to him, 836 00:38:23,436 --> 00:38:25,171 but he didn't want to tell us anything. 837 00:38:25,205 --> 00:38:28,375 His story was he didn't do it, he's being framed. 838 00:38:28,408 --> 00:38:30,744 You know, he just denied everything. 839 00:38:32,045 --> 00:38:34,948 - With the likely mastermind behind bars, 840 00:38:35,048 --> 00:38:39,619 police shift their focus to finding the triggerman. 841 00:38:39,652 --> 00:38:43,156 So they turn to the LAPD's network of informants 842 00:38:43,189 --> 00:38:45,291 hoping for a tip. 843 00:38:45,325 --> 00:38:48,661 * * 844 00:38:48,695 --> 00:38:51,731 - On Sunday, March 9th, we got information 845 00:38:51,765 --> 00:38:55,568 on Christian Rodriguez from an informant. 846 00:38:55,602 --> 00:38:58,204 We surveilled his new address, 847 00:38:58,238 --> 00:39:01,408 waiting in the car, watching. 848 00:39:01,441 --> 00:39:04,711 And then Rodriguez got into his car. 849 00:39:05,645 --> 00:39:09,649 And then the surveillance unit started to follow. 850 00:39:09,683 --> 00:39:12,786 He made a turn, these little funny little side streets, 851 00:39:12,819 --> 00:39:16,322 and the surveillance unit almost lost him. 852 00:39:16,356 --> 00:39:19,392 But then they just converged on him 853 00:39:19,426 --> 00:39:21,528 and took him down. 854 00:39:21,561 --> 00:39:25,031 Rodriguez gave right up. 855 00:39:25,031 --> 00:39:27,300 - Following the arrest, he was transported 856 00:39:27,334 --> 00:39:29,235 to Hollywood station. 857 00:39:29,269 --> 00:39:31,604 Detective Miller and I asked Christian Rodriguez to tell us 858 00:39:31,638 --> 00:39:35,175 his side of the story, and he did. 859 00:39:35,208 --> 00:39:37,844 - Apparently, Rodriguez never got paid to begin with, 860 00:39:37,877 --> 00:39:39,813 and he flipped because he was real upset. 861 00:39:39,846 --> 00:39:41,648 - He told us that James Van Sickle 862 00:39:41,681 --> 00:39:44,617 had approached him to commit a murder for hire. 863 00:39:44,651 --> 00:39:46,586 He wanted him to do it because he had no criminal record 864 00:39:46,619 --> 00:39:48,655 and no one would suspect him. 865 00:39:48,688 --> 00:39:53,393 - He said he was going to pay him $25,000 to kill Austin. 866 00:39:53,426 --> 00:39:56,796 - He provided information to Christian Rodriguez 867 00:39:56,830 --> 00:40:00,467 on how to obtain a firearm and how he could commit the act 868 00:40:00,500 --> 00:40:02,969 and where he should do it and how he should do it. 869 00:40:03,003 --> 00:40:04,971 [gunshot] 870 00:40:05,005 --> 00:40:07,040 And he wanted Mary Giles murdered as well 871 00:40:07,073 --> 00:40:09,009 to make it look like a robbery. 872 00:40:09,042 --> 00:40:12,045 - And to us, that was the coldest part of the whole case. 873 00:40:12,078 --> 00:40:13,513 [gunshot] 874 00:40:13,546 --> 00:40:15,715 - The police were all just horrified 875 00:40:15,749 --> 00:40:19,853 at how James Van Sickle was perfectly comfortable 876 00:40:19,886 --> 00:40:23,590 with collateral damage of a young woman, 19 years old, 877 00:40:23,623 --> 00:40:27,460 just so it looks more like a robbery. 878 00:40:27,494 --> 00:40:30,530 - Then in January of 1999, 879 00:40:30,563 --> 00:40:33,333 James Van Sickle and Christian Rodriguez 880 00:40:33,366 --> 00:40:34,601 are tried together. 881 00:40:34,634 --> 00:40:36,803 * * 882 00:40:36,836 --> 00:40:39,873 - At the trial, Mary was a perfect witness 883 00:40:39,906 --> 00:40:42,342 because she was very innocent. 884 00:40:42,375 --> 00:40:45,345 She was very matter of fact. 885 00:40:45,378 --> 00:40:48,081 She actually showed the scar 886 00:40:48,114 --> 00:40:50,016 from the gunshot that had gone into her chest, 887 00:40:50,050 --> 00:40:52,052 and it was a pretty massive scar. 888 00:40:52,085 --> 00:40:53,553 She was very sympathetic. 889 00:40:53,586 --> 00:40:57,657 And when she said that God saved her, she meant it. 890 00:40:57,691 --> 00:41:00,527 - After that, they had the confession 891 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,662 from Christian Rodriguez, 892 00:41:02,696 --> 00:41:05,732 and what is on tape from James Van Sickle 893 00:41:05,765 --> 00:41:07,500 is enough to nail him. 894 00:41:07,534 --> 00:41:09,536 * * 895 00:41:09,569 --> 00:41:12,105 - Then in May of 1999, 896 00:41:12,138 --> 00:41:15,675 just over two years after Larry Austin's murder, 897 00:41:15,709 --> 00:41:18,778 Van Sickle and Rodriguez learn their fate. 898 00:41:18,812 --> 00:41:20,880 - Ultimately, at the end of the trial, 899 00:41:20,914 --> 00:41:22,982 both Christian Rodriguez and James Van Sickle 900 00:41:23,083 --> 00:41:25,118 were convicted of first-degree murder. 901 00:41:25,151 --> 00:41:27,754 And they were both sentenced to life 902 00:41:27,787 --> 00:41:29,689 without the possibility of parole 903 00:41:29,723 --> 00:41:32,092 in California state prison. 904 00:41:32,092 --> 00:41:34,160 [door slams] 905 00:41:34,194 --> 00:41:37,163 * * 906 00:41:37,197 --> 00:41:40,433 - After the trial, the district attorney, Jeff Ramseyer, 907 00:41:40,467 --> 00:41:42,736 said, do you want to speak on Larry's behalf? 908 00:41:42,769 --> 00:41:45,872 And I said, yes, I'd like to speak about Larry. 909 00:41:45,905 --> 00:41:47,474 So I get up. 910 00:41:47,507 --> 00:41:49,642 And I told them, James Van Sickle 911 00:41:49,676 --> 00:41:52,645 and Christian Rodriguez, you showed no remorse, 912 00:41:52,679 --> 00:41:54,948 and you took a man's life. 913 00:41:54,981 --> 00:41:57,350 * * 914 00:41:57,384 --> 00:41:59,119 James kind of had a smirk. 915 00:41:59,119 --> 00:42:02,622 And I said, you know, you can smirk all you want, pal. 916 00:42:02,655 --> 00:42:04,157 But you know what? 917 00:42:04,190 --> 00:42:07,761 When I leave here, you're going back in a cell. 918 00:42:07,794 --> 00:42:09,396 You have no freedom. 919 00:42:09,429 --> 00:42:12,532 You gave it up when you chose to take a man's life 920 00:42:12,565 --> 00:42:15,068 for profit. 921 00:42:15,101 --> 00:42:18,772 - Today the people who loved Larry Austin and the spirit 922 00:42:18,805 --> 00:42:21,508 of Old Hollywood he fought to preserve 923 00:42:21,541 --> 00:42:23,710 are left with only memories. 924 00:42:23,743 --> 00:42:27,180 The theater continues to operate as an outlet 925 00:42:27,213 --> 00:42:28,982 for art-house cinema 926 00:42:29,082 --> 00:42:32,185 and occasionally even features a silent movie, 927 00:42:32,218 --> 00:42:33,820 for old time's sake. 928 00:42:33,853 --> 00:42:35,555 - It wasn't nearly the same, obviously. 929 00:42:35,588 --> 00:42:36,756 There was no Larry Austin. 930 00:42:36,790 --> 00:42:38,958 And it was more of a hipster haven. 931 00:42:38,992 --> 00:42:41,394 - They do have screenings, 932 00:42:41,428 --> 00:42:43,997 but it's not the same. 933 00:42:44,097 --> 00:42:46,933 Larry Austin had a perfect vision 934 00:42:46,966 --> 00:42:48,702 for the Silent Movie Theater. 935 00:42:48,735 --> 00:42:51,438 It was his one chance 936 00:42:51,471 --> 00:42:54,808 to sprinkle himself 937 00:42:54,841 --> 00:42:57,110 and the area with stardust. 938 00:42:57,110 --> 00:43:00,747 It was a little bit of magic that he could make happen. 939 00:43:00,780 --> 00:43:04,217 That's the Larry Austin who died. 940 00:43:04,250 --> 00:43:06,886 - When Larry died, I didn't want to go back, 941 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,056 and I've never been back in that building ever since. 942 00:43:10,090 --> 00:43:11,591 I've driven by. 943 00:43:11,624 --> 00:43:14,828 And it's bittersweet. 944 00:43:14,861 --> 00:43:17,797 I wish we still had a silent-movie theater 945 00:43:17,831 --> 00:43:19,265 here in Los Angeles. 946 00:43:19,299 --> 00:43:21,868 But you need somebody 947 00:43:21,901 --> 00:43:24,838 with love and devotion like Larry gave it 948 00:43:24,871 --> 00:43:27,173 to run something like that. 949 00:43:27,207 --> 00:43:28,708 It was Larry's life, 950 00:43:28,742 --> 00:43:31,745 and when he died, the theater died. 77164

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