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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 01:00:00,041 --> 01:00:01,333 我叫Michelle Mui 2 01:00:01,333 --> 01:00:04,041 我是紐約香港協會的執行理事 3 01:00:04,541 --> 01:00:07,791 紐約香港協會是一個非謀利機構 4 01:00:08,166 --> 01:00:14,000 專門推廣香港和紐約之間的商業發展 5 01:00:14,166 --> 01:00:16,250 和文化交流 6 01:00:16,666 --> 01:00:19,500 今天真的特別開心 7 01:00:19,666 --> 01:00:24,708 我是第一次用廣東話介紹紐約港協會 8 01:00:24,833 --> 01:00:25,833 特別親切 9 01:00:26,666 --> 01:00:29,875 第二就是很榮幸地請到文念中先生 10 01:00:29,875 --> 01:00:31,916 來到現場做一個座談會 11 01:00:35,166 --> 01:00:35,791 現場的朋友大多都是電影迷 12 01:00:36,583 --> 01:00:40,250 相信大家無論在片頭或片尾 13 01:00:40,583 --> 01:00:43,375 都見過「文念中」這三個字 14 01:00:43,583 --> 01:00:46,958 希望大家容許我拋一下書包 15 01:00:47,083 --> 01:00:48,291 我做了很多功課 16 01:00:48,583 --> 01:00:53,583 在文念中先生近30年的電影工作生涯中 17 01:00:53,583 --> 01:00:56,958 他共20次獲得香港電影金像獎提名 18 01:00:57,083 --> 01:01:00,458 由2000年憑《心動》首次提名 19 01:01:00,583 --> 01:01:02,666 並獲獎最佳美術指導之後 20 01:01:02,666 --> 01:01:06,958 其後亦在2015年、2018年及2019年 21 01:01:07,041 --> 01:01:09,791 分別以《黃金時代》、《明月幾時有》 22 01:01:09,791 --> 01:01:13,791 及《無雙》等多次奪得最佳造型設計、 23 01:01:13,791 --> 01:01:16,166 最佳服裝造型設計等殊榮 24 01:01:16,583 --> 01:01:18,166 更加在2021年 25 01:01:18,166 --> 01:01:20,625 首次執導關於香港大導演 26 01:01:20,625 --> 01:01:22,416 許鞍華導演的紀錄片 27 01:01:22,583 --> 01:01:23,583 《好好拍電影》 28 01:01:23,583 --> 01:01:27,541 並獲得香港電影導演會年度大獎 29 01:01:27,583 --> 01:01:30,625 新晉導演獎和香港電影金像獎 30 01:01:31,583 --> 01:01:35,375 新晉導演及最佳導演的提名 31 01:01:35,583 --> 01:01:39,166 他曾參與電影作品多不勝數 32 01:01:39,166 --> 01:01:40,708 包括經典作品 33 01:01:40,708 --> 01:01:43,958 《春光乍洩》、《花樣年華》、《2046》 34 01:01:44,583 --> 01:01:46,000 《竊聽風雲》系列等等 35 01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:47,750 及較近期的 36 01:01:47,750 --> 01:01:49,625 《明月幾時有》、《麥路人》 37 01:01:49,625 --> 01:01:52,458 《阿媽有咗第二個》、《流水落花》等等 38 01:01:53,583 --> 01:01:58,166 事不宜遲，有請Man Sir來到現場 39 01:02:01,916 --> 01:02:04,041 剛剛是一個很官方的Man Sir的簡介 40 01:02:04,041 --> 01:02:06,041 在Man Sir心目中 41 01:02:06,041 --> 01:02:08,875 文念中是一個怎樣的人 42 01:02:10,833 --> 01:02:14,583 其實我小時候都是一個比較 43 01:02:14,833 --> 01:02:17,791 很內向的人 44 01:02:17,833 --> 01:02:19,791 不是很進取的人 45 01:02:19,791 --> 01:02:21,333 而且小時候都不知道 46 01:02:24,833 --> 01:02:26,916 有些人小時候就說 47 01:02:26,916 --> 01:02:28,291 長大要做建築師 48 01:02:28,291 --> 01:02:30,166 或者要做警察 49 01:02:30,166 --> 01:02:31,208 小時候 50 01:02:31,208 --> 01:02:34,500 沒有一個很長遠的想法 51 01:02:34,833 --> 01:02:38,875 不過都喜歡畫畫 52 01:02:39,833 --> 01:02:44,083 有參加興趣班學畫掃描 53 01:02:44,083 --> 01:02:47,333 一直都有畫 54 01:02:47,333 --> 01:02:49,791 但不是畫得特別好 55 01:02:49,833 --> 01:02:53,000 我從來在很多方面都沒有特別 56 01:02:53,625 --> 01:02:56,208 標青沒有在哪一方面特別好 57 01:02:56,833 --> 01:02:59,041 而且我都 58 01:02:59,833 --> 01:03:02,958 不像是所謂的「學霸」 59 01:03:02,958 --> 01:03:07,041 若想追求某一件事 60 01:03:07,083 --> 01:03:08,208 就廢寢忘餐 61 01:03:08,208 --> 01:03:12,750 很投入那件事 62 01:03:12,750 --> 01:03:17,458 去找很多資料 63 01:03:17,833 --> 01:03:20,458 除了吃飯睡覺 64 01:03:20,833 --> 01:03:22,000 甚麼也不理會 65 01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:22,958 只是很專心做好一件事 66 01:03:23,833 --> 01:03:24,041 我並不是這樣的人 67 01:03:24,041 --> 01:03:26,125 我心比較散 68 01:03:26,833 --> 01:03:29,125 但 69 01:03:29,833 --> 01:03:34,791 我並不是很專 70 01:03:34,791 --> 01:03:37,333 但我又不怕去試新東西 71 01:03:37,833 --> 01:03:40,125 就算那些事情你是不懂的 72 01:03:40,833 --> 01:03:41,708 別人叫你 73 01:03:41,833 --> 01:03:42,708 有沒有興趣一起做 74 01:03:42,833 --> 01:03:44,083 我覺得挺有趣 75 01:03:44,083 --> 01:03:45,000 不如試試 76 01:03:46,833 --> 01:03:49,166 好處就是 77 01:03:49,166 --> 01:03:51,750 我並不怕去嘗試新東西 78 01:03:52,083 --> 01:03:52,750 好處就是 79 01:03:52,833 --> 01:03:54,458 我每一樣東西都會一點點 80 01:03:54,458 --> 01:03:55,958 但不擅長 81 01:03:55,958 --> 01:03:56,375 　 82 01:03:56,833 --> 01:03:58,666 就算長大後 83 01:03:58,833 --> 01:04:00,166 沒有一件事 84 01:04:00,833 --> 01:04:03,666 是覺得很專心 85 01:04:03,833 --> 01:04:06,083 想做得很極致 86 01:04:06,833 --> 01:04:11,291 中學後 87 01:04:11,833 --> 01:04:12,791 誤打誤撞地 88 01:04:13,833 --> 01:04:16,791 到了理工大學讀 89 01:04:17,333 --> 01:04:18,541 平面設計 90 01:04:18,833 --> 01:04:20,416 專攻 91 01:04:20,833 --> 01:04:22,208 攝影 92 01:04:22,833 --> 01:04:24,583 那時候稱為視聽 93 01:04:24,833 --> 01:04:25,666 即是 94 01:04:25,833 --> 01:04:27,916 用一些幻燈片 95 01:04:27,916 --> 01:04:29,541 加上一些聲效 96 01:04:29,833 --> 01:04:30,500 利用幻燈機 97 01:04:30,833 --> 01:04:32,125 做到好像 98 01:04:32,833 --> 01:04:34,500 影片的效果 99 01:04:34,500 --> 01:04:35,583 那時候 100 01:04:36,833 --> 01:04:38,208 剛開始有那些 101 01:04:38,833 --> 01:04:39,750 v8 102 01:04:40,833 --> 01:04:41,291 h8 103 01:04:41,833 --> 01:04:43,250 即是錄影帶 104 01:04:43,250 --> 01:04:44,333 不像現在 105 01:04:44,333 --> 01:04:45,666 手機又可以拍片 106 01:04:45,833 --> 01:04:47,958 相機又可以拍片 107 01:04:48,291 --> 01:04:50,000 我比較喜歡拍照 108 01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,458 還有保持著畫畫 109 01:04:52,458 --> 01:04:54,083 都不知道 110 01:04:54,083 --> 01:04:55,083 畢了業 111 01:04:55,833 --> 01:04:55,916 原來會 112 01:04:55,916 --> 01:04:58,375 進了電影該行業 113 01:04:58,833 --> 01:04:59,291 不過那時候 114 01:04:59,291 --> 01:05:00,333 很喜歡看電影 115 01:05:00,333 --> 01:05:01,041 我記得小時候 116 01:05:01,833 --> 01:05:03,458 很喜歡看電影 117 01:05:03,833 --> 01:05:04,375 應該是 118 01:05:04,833 --> 01:05:05,708 源自於 119 01:05:05,708 --> 01:05:08,000 我爸爸比較喜歡看西片 120 01:05:08,833 --> 01:05:11,750 他帶我去戲院看電影 121 01:05:11,750 --> 01:05:12,916 我比較有印象的 122 01:05:12,916 --> 01:05:13,666 第一套戲 123 01:05:13,833 --> 01:05:15,375 叫Papillon《巴比龍》 124 01:05:16,166 --> 01:05:17,291 就是Dustin Lee Hoffman 125 01:05:17,291 --> 01:05:18,625 還有Steve McQueen 126 01:05:18,833 --> 01:05:20,166 兩個主演 127 01:05:20,166 --> 01:05:21,791 一個逃獄的故事 128 01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,125 兩個人在一個荒島 129 01:05:25,625 --> 01:05:27,625 一個人被人陷害 130 01:05:27,625 --> 01:05:28,833 坐了冤枉監 131 01:05:28,833 --> 01:05:30,250 想辦法離開那個 132 01:05:30,625 --> 01:05:31,333 那個島 133 01:05:31,625 --> 01:05:32,875 怎麼都離不開 134 01:05:33,041 --> 01:05:34,416 看到就很害怕 135 01:05:35,625 --> 01:05:39,708 又很緊張 136 01:05:39,833 --> 01:05:40,416 覺得 137 01:05:40,625 --> 01:05:41,625 為什麼 138 01:05:42,625 --> 01:05:44,583 原來一些會動的影像 139 01:05:44,583 --> 01:05:45,708 是可以令到 140 01:05:45,708 --> 01:05:47,208 人的情緒 141 01:05:47,625 --> 01:05:48,625 起落這麼大 142 01:05:49,625 --> 01:05:52,250 到後來看一些 143 01:05:53,625 --> 01:05:55,125 譬如Melody《兩小無猜》 144 01:05:55,625 --> 01:05:56,291 又會覺得 145 01:05:56,625 --> 01:05:57,000 很慘 146 01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:57,833 或者他們 147 01:05:57,833 --> 01:05:59,375 很甜蜜的時候 148 01:05:59,625 --> 01:06:00,791 又覺得很甜蜜 149 01:06:00,791 --> 01:06:01,083 就發現 150 01:06:01,625 --> 01:06:02,666 原來電影 151 01:06:02,666 --> 01:06:03,583 是一樣神奇的東西 152 01:06:03,625 --> 01:06:04,708 可以 153 01:06:04,708 --> 01:06:06,250 令到很多觀眾 154 01:06:06,250 --> 01:06:08,666 在同一個空間 155 01:06:08,666 --> 01:06:11,333 同時笑 156 01:06:11,333 --> 01:06:12,500 同時哭 157 01:06:12,500 --> 01:06:14,083 同時很緊張 158 01:06:14,083 --> 01:06:16,625 同時很害怕 159 01:06:16,625 --> 01:06:18,375 譬如The Exorcist 《驅魔人》 160 01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:19,125 或者 161 01:06:19,625 --> 01:06:20,583 我記得在戲院 162 01:06:20,583 --> 01:06:21,458 看Jaws《大白鯊》 163 01:06:21,625 --> 01:06:24,541 會覺得鯊魚 164 01:06:24,625 --> 01:06:26,541 在旁邊會咬你 165 01:06:26,625 --> 01:06:28,583 那個影響 166 01:06:28,583 --> 01:06:29,541 到後來 167 01:06:29,666 --> 01:06:31,500 很多年我去沙灘游泳 168 01:06:31,625 --> 01:06:33,250 腳碰到膠袋 169 01:06:33,625 --> 01:06:33,958 都會害怕 170 01:06:34,625 --> 01:06:37,166 就是沿自看完《大白鯊》 171 01:06:37,166 --> 01:06:38,333 對你的影響 172 01:06:38,333 --> 01:06:39,083 所以 173 01:06:39,625 --> 01:06:41,916 電影對人的影響 174 01:06:41,916 --> 01:06:42,666 其實很大 175 01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:44,166 電影的力量 176 01:06:44,166 --> 01:06:45,083 其實很大 177 01:06:45,625 --> 01:06:47,458 就覺得對電影很興趣 178 01:06:48,125 --> 01:06:48,666 就開始 179 01:06:48,666 --> 01:06:49,375 　 180 01:06:49,625 --> 01:06:51,166 看得更多電影 181 01:06:51,625 --> 01:06:52,541 但並不容易 182 01:06:52,541 --> 01:06:53,250 因為當時 183 01:06:53,625 --> 01:06:55,291 不像現在 184 01:06:55,625 --> 01:06:57,125 在電腦手機 185 01:06:57,125 --> 01:06:58,583 都可以看電影 186 01:06:58,625 --> 01:07:00,041 要不就 187 01:07:00,625 --> 01:07:01,958 真的要儲錢 188 01:07:01,958 --> 01:07:03,041 去戲院看 189 01:07:03,625 --> 01:07:03,708 或者 190 01:07:04,625 --> 01:07:05,708 等電視台 191 01:07:05,708 --> 01:07:07,291 偶爾播放 192 01:07:07,625 --> 01:07:08,625 週末 193 01:07:08,833 --> 01:07:09,291 猛片 194 01:07:09,625 --> 01:07:10,958 才有機會看 195 01:07:11,625 --> 01:07:12,000 所以 196 01:07:12,625 --> 01:07:13,750 第一 197 01:07:13,750 --> 01:07:14,250 可能 198 01:07:14,625 --> 01:07:16,083 因為看電影的機會 199 01:07:16,083 --> 01:07:17,708 不是那麼容易得到 200 01:07:17,708 --> 01:07:17,958 　 201 01:07:17,958 --> 01:07:19,791 便會更加珍惜 202 01:07:19,791 --> 01:07:20,875 去看電影 203 01:07:21,625 --> 01:07:23,500 我絕對認同 204 01:07:23,625 --> 01:07:25,250 在電影院裏面 205 01:07:25,250 --> 01:07:25,458 　 206 01:07:25,625 --> 01:07:27,583 跟整個戲院裏的 207 01:07:27,625 --> 01:07:29,916 所有人一起經歷的情感 208 01:07:29,916 --> 01:07:30,541 是一個 209 01:07:30,625 --> 01:07:32,625 很令人感動的時刻 210 01:07:32,625 --> 01:07:34,500 我記得 211 01:07:34,625 --> 01:07:36,833 Man Sir曾經形容過 212 01:07:36,833 --> 01:07:37,875 美術指導 213 01:07:37,875 --> 01:07:38,458 就是一個 214 01:07:38,625 --> 01:07:39,625 築夢人 215 01:07:39,625 --> 01:07:42,250 建築的築、夢想的夢 216 01:07:42,625 --> 01:07:44,416 這個形容 217 01:07:44,625 --> 01:07:45,541 　 218 01:07:45,625 --> 01:07:46,916 很唯美的 219 01:07:46,916 --> 01:07:47,833 又很貼地 220 01:07:47,833 --> 01:07:49,333 可否解釋一下 221 01:07:49,333 --> 01:07:51,083 為什麼你會用「築夢人」 222 01:07:51,083 --> 01:07:52,208 來形容 223 01:07:52,208 --> 01:07:53,333 美術指導 224 01:07:53,625 --> 01:07:54,750 首先這個名字 225 01:07:54,750 --> 01:07:55,583 不是我改的 226 01:07:55,625 --> 01:07:57,500 　 227 01:07:57,500 --> 01:07:59,708 我這幾年 228 01:07:59,708 --> 01:08:01,750 是香港電影美術協會的 229 01:08:03,625 --> 01:08:04,666 一份子 230 01:08:04,666 --> 01:08:05,541 我們 231 01:08:05,625 --> 01:08:06,500 去年 232 01:08:06,625 --> 01:08:07,541 辦了一個 233 01:08:07,625 --> 01:08:08,875 電影美術 234 01:08:09,500 --> 01:08:10,708 和服裝造型展覽 235 01:08:10,875 --> 01:08:12,000 在香港的 236 01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:13,250 沙田文化博物館 237 01:08:13,791 --> 01:08:15,583 辦展覽的時候 238 01:08:15,625 --> 01:08:16,666 談到很多概念 239 01:08:16,666 --> 01:08:17,583 其中 240 01:08:17,625 --> 01:08:19,333 築夢人 241 01:08:19,625 --> 01:08:21,291 用了在 242 01:08:21,291 --> 01:08:22,166 其中一部分 243 01:08:22,166 --> 01:08:23,291 我們訪問了 244 01:08:23,291 --> 01:08:24,583 60個行業裏面 245 01:08:24,791 --> 01:08:25,875 　 246 01:08:27,625 --> 01:08:28,375 從業員 247 01:08:28,375 --> 01:08:29,250 包括有 248 01:08:29,625 --> 01:08:30,000 美術指導 249 01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:31,666 服裝指導 250 01:08:32,625 --> 01:08:33,833 化妝師 251 01:08:33,833 --> 01:08:34,750 服裝師 252 01:08:35,625 --> 01:08:36,416 　 253 01:08:36,416 --> 01:08:37,125 搭佈景的人等 254 01:08:37,625 --> 01:08:39,041 所有不同崗位的人 255 01:08:39,041 --> 01:08:40,250 共有60個人 256 01:08:40,750 --> 01:08:41,458 跟每個人 257 01:08:41,625 --> 01:08:42,250 做了大概 258 01:08:42,625 --> 01:08:44,041 一個小時的訪問 259 01:08:44,625 --> 01:08:45,458 發現很多人 260 01:08:45,625 --> 01:08:46,583 談他們的 261 01:08:46,625 --> 01:08:47,250 經驗時 262 01:08:47,625 --> 01:08:47,833 　 263 01:08:48,625 --> 01:08:49,250 　 264 01:08:50,625 --> 01:08:51,416 大家都覺得 265 01:08:51,416 --> 01:08:52,375 做電影 266 01:08:52,625 --> 01:08:52,750 就好像 267 01:08:53,625 --> 01:08:55,041 一個夢工場 268 01:08:55,625 --> 01:08:56,458 而這班人 269 01:08:56,625 --> 01:08:56,916 就是 270 01:08:58,625 --> 01:09:00,750 去搭建這個夢工場的一份子 271 01:09:00,750 --> 01:09:01,708 所以就覺得 272 01:09:02,625 --> 01:09:03,541 用這個名字 273 01:09:03,625 --> 01:09:04,500 形容這班 274 01:09:05,625 --> 01:09:06,708 電影工作者 275 01:09:06,708 --> 01:09:08,458 是很適合的 276 01:09:08,458 --> 01:09:09,208 　 277 01:09:09,208 --> 01:09:10,000 很多時候 278 01:09:11,625 --> 01:09:12,666 我們的工作都是 279 01:09:12,666 --> 01:09:14,083 看完劇本 280 01:09:14,625 --> 01:09:16,958 源自於你對劇本的 281 01:09:16,958 --> 01:09:18,166 消化和想像 282 01:09:18,166 --> 01:09:19,583 去建構 283 01:09:19,625 --> 01:09:21,333 一個視覺的世界 284 01:09:21,625 --> 01:09:22,125 其實都是跟 285 01:09:22,625 --> 01:09:23,375 　 286 01:09:23,625 --> 01:09:24,375 　 287 01:09:24,875 --> 01:09:25,666 發夢差不多 288 01:09:25,666 --> 01:09:26,208 所以 289 01:09:26,625 --> 01:09:27,500 覺得這個名字 290 01:09:27,625 --> 01:09:28,541 都很適合 291 01:09:29,625 --> 01:09:30,916 我看過一些訪問說 292 01:09:30,916 --> 01:09:31,416 　 293 01:09:31,625 --> 01:09:34,208 你們看了劇本 294 01:09:34,208 --> 01:09:35,458 由文字 295 01:09:35,458 --> 01:09:37,083 去想像 296 01:09:37,083 --> 01:09:38,500 出來很多畫面 297 01:09:38,625 --> 01:09:39,791 再把 298 01:09:39,791 --> 01:09:41,166 想像出來的畫面 299 01:09:41,166 --> 01:09:42,250 就真的呈現成 300 01:09:42,250 --> 01:09:42,666 為一個 301 01:09:42,666 --> 01:09:43,416 電影一個 302 01:09:43,625 --> 01:09:45,208 情節給所有觀眾 303 01:09:45,625 --> 01:09:46,375 這就 304 01:09:46,375 --> 01:09:47,333 真的好 305 01:09:47,625 --> 01:09:48,625 有一種 306 01:09:48,625 --> 01:09:50,458 夢想實現的感覺 307 01:09:50,625 --> 01:09:51,375 就是你們 308 01:09:51,625 --> 01:09:54,000 夢想看到的畫面 309 01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:55,208 就真的在大螢幕上 310 01:09:55,208 --> 01:09:55,625 可以 311 01:09:55,625 --> 01:09:56,875 跟所有觀眾 312 01:09:56,875 --> 01:09:59,500 一起去感受這個場口 313 01:09:59,625 --> 01:10:00,458 是一個 314 01:10:00,625 --> 01:10:00,833 　 315 01:10:02,625 --> 01:10:04,416 很魔幻的時刻 316 01:10:04,625 --> 01:10:05,750 你可不可以 317 01:10:05,750 --> 01:10:06,750 多講一些 318 01:10:06,750 --> 01:10:07,500 關於 319 01:10:07,625 --> 01:10:09,083 美指這回事 320 01:10:09,083 --> 01:10:09,833 美術指導 321 01:10:09,833 --> 01:10:10,791 其實究竟 322 01:10:10,791 --> 01:10:12,208 是做什麼呢 323 01:10:13,625 --> 01:10:15,208 就像剛才說的 324 01:10:21,291 --> 01:10:21,750 小時候 325 01:10:21,750 --> 01:10:22,375 　 326 01:10:22,375 --> 01:10:23,291 我剛剛入行 327 01:10:23,625 --> 01:10:26,583 親戚問我父母 328 01:10:26,583 --> 01:10:27,541 你兒子做什麼 329 01:10:27,625 --> 01:10:28,666 　 330 01:10:28,666 --> 01:10:30,416 都不懂得怎麼告訴他們 331 01:10:30,625 --> 01:10:31,333 我就 332 01:10:31,625 --> 01:10:33,208 會很簡單地說 333 01:10:33,625 --> 01:10:35,166 我是負責 334 01:10:35,166 --> 01:10:36,875 電影裡面的佈景 335 01:10:36,875 --> 01:10:37,666 或者道具等 336 01:10:37,666 --> 01:10:38,291 那樣 337 01:10:38,625 --> 01:10:39,041 他就明白了 338 01:10:39,625 --> 01:10:40,125 　 339 01:10:40,625 --> 01:10:41,500 若說我是做美術指導 340 01:10:41,500 --> 01:10:42,500 他就不明白 341 01:10:42,625 --> 01:10:44,208 我說我負責 342 01:10:44,208 --> 01:10:45,000 做電影道具 343 01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:45,708 和佈景 344 01:10:45,708 --> 01:10:47,791 他就大概明白了 345 01:10:47,833 --> 01:10:49,416 這是比較簡單的 346 01:10:49,625 --> 01:10:50,208 形容 347 01:10:51,625 --> 01:10:52,625 實質就是 348 01:10:52,625 --> 01:10:53,250 像剛才說的 349 01:10:53,625 --> 01:10:54,750 看完劇本 350 01:10:54,750 --> 01:10:55,708 因為 351 01:10:56,625 --> 01:10:59,416 劇本是用文字寫出來的 352 01:10:59,625 --> 01:11:00,375 而怎樣 353 01:11:00,375 --> 01:11:01,291 將這些文字 354 01:11:01,625 --> 01:11:02,791 變成影像的世界 355 01:11:02,791 --> 01:11:04,291 這就是我們的工作 356 01:11:04,625 --> 01:11:05,291 譬如 357 01:11:05,625 --> 01:11:07,458 大家看到很多 358 01:11:07,625 --> 01:11:08,708 港產片 359 01:11:08,708 --> 01:11:10,125 有不同的類型 360 01:11:10,125 --> 01:11:10,708 譬如有 361 01:11:10,708 --> 01:11:13,375 警匪、愛情、喜劇 362 01:11:14,625 --> 01:11:15,500 或者驚慄等 363 01:11:15,625 --> 01:11:16,291 這些 364 01:11:16,625 --> 01:11:18,583 不同風格的戲 365 01:11:18,625 --> 01:11:19,375 都需要 366 01:11:19,625 --> 01:11:20,583 有不同的 367 01:11:20,625 --> 01:11:22,000 視覺元素 368 01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:22,375 去 369 01:11:22,625 --> 01:11:24,000 呈現給觀眾看 370 01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:27,208 當然很多是透過 371 01:11:27,208 --> 01:11:29,208 我們對電影的 372 01:11:29,208 --> 01:11:29,791 認識 373 01:11:29,791 --> 01:11:30,000 或者 374 01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:30,916 觀影一些 375 01:11:30,916 --> 01:11:32,041 其他電影的經驗 376 01:11:32,625 --> 01:11:34,291 加上如果有 377 01:11:34,625 --> 01:11:35,750 讀過美術 378 01:11:35,750 --> 01:11:37,250 可能對一些 379 01:11:37,625 --> 01:11:38,125 審美 380 01:11:38,125 --> 01:11:40,000 自己本身已經有一個標準 381 01:11:41,625 --> 01:11:42,333 所以 382 01:11:42,625 --> 01:11:44,041 不同美術指導 383 01:11:44,041 --> 01:11:45,208 應該是有 384 01:11:45,208 --> 01:11:47,041 各自不一樣的風格 385 01:11:47,625 --> 01:11:47,875 當然 386 01:11:47,875 --> 01:11:49,125 我覺得 387 01:11:49,625 --> 01:11:51,583 戲種比較重要 388 01:11:51,625 --> 01:11:52,375 譬如 389 01:11:52,375 --> 01:11:54,375 如果是一個很寫實的電影 390 01:11:54,375 --> 01:11:55,208 你沒有理由 391 01:11:55,666 --> 01:11:57,333 是一些很誇張的 392 01:11:57,625 --> 01:11:58,291 視覺風格 393 01:11:58,291 --> 01:12:01,833 但是有時候 394 01:12:01,833 --> 01:12:03,708 都是很難的 395 01:12:03,708 --> 01:12:04,750 因為很多東西 396 01:12:05,625 --> 01:12:06,916 我們未必都 397 01:12:08,625 --> 01:12:10,541 真的很清楚知道 398 01:12:10,541 --> 01:12:11,125 怎麼做 399 01:12:11,125 --> 01:12:12,166 譬如古裝片 400 01:12:12,166 --> 01:12:13,250 我們不是那個世界 401 01:12:13,625 --> 01:12:14,333 來的人 402 01:12:15,083 --> 01:12:15,375 究竟 403 01:12:15,625 --> 01:12:17,041 怎樣去 404 01:12:17,041 --> 01:12:18,541 將那個時代 405 01:12:18,541 --> 01:12:19,250 或者那個世界 406 01:12:19,250 --> 01:12:20,666 告訴觀眾聽 407 01:12:20,666 --> 01:12:21,958 都要做很多 408 01:12:21,958 --> 01:12:23,250 資料蒐集 409 01:12:23,250 --> 01:12:23,458 或者 410 01:12:23,625 --> 01:12:25,916 看很多古畫 411 01:12:25,916 --> 01:12:27,291 譬如 412 01:12:27,625 --> 01:12:28,916 科幻片 413 01:12:28,916 --> 01:12:30,000 究竟 414 01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:31,833 大家對於科幻 415 01:12:31,833 --> 01:12:33,291 有不同的憧憬 416 01:12:33,291 --> 01:12:34,708 你究竟是 417 01:12:34,708 --> 01:12:36,833 選擇哪些元素 418 01:12:36,833 --> 01:12:37,166 去 419 01:12:37,625 --> 01:12:39,208 告訴觀眾聽 420 01:12:39,208 --> 01:12:39,625 這個 421 01:12:39,625 --> 01:12:40,833 也需要 422 01:12:40,833 --> 01:12:42,458 和導演的溝通 423 01:12:43,625 --> 01:12:46,583 慢慢做下去 424 01:12:46,625 --> 01:12:49,000 要考慮的東西又多了 425 01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:49,708 譬如有時候 426 01:12:49,708 --> 01:12:51,250 你想像是這樣 427 01:12:51,250 --> 01:12:52,708 但實際上 428 01:12:53,625 --> 01:12:54,416 可不可以 429 01:12:54,625 --> 01:12:55,666 有這樣的資源 430 01:12:55,666 --> 01:12:56,541 讓你做到 431 01:12:56,625 --> 01:12:57,583 如果沒有 432 01:12:57,625 --> 01:12:58,750 你怎麼在 433 01:12:59,625 --> 01:13:01,583 有限的條件裡面 434 01:13:01,625 --> 01:13:03,833 去呈現這些東西 435 01:13:03,833 --> 01:13:04,458 這些 436 01:13:04,625 --> 01:13:06,750 所有東西都限制了 437 01:13:06,750 --> 01:13:08,541 創作的過程 438 01:13:09,458 --> 01:13:09,875 我記得 439 01:13:09,875 --> 01:13:10,583 剛才如果 440 01:13:10,625 --> 01:13:12,166 有看到 441 01:13:12,625 --> 01:13:14,416 《無中生有》的一些訪問 442 01:13:14,625 --> 01:13:15,541 其中一位 443 01:13:15,625 --> 01:13:16,666 幕後人 444 01:13:16,666 --> 01:13:17,541 他就說 445 01:13:17,625 --> 01:13:18,125 完成 446 01:13:18,625 --> 01:13:20,375 比完美更重要 447 01:13:20,625 --> 01:13:21,125 他這句話 448 01:13:21,125 --> 01:13:21,291 對於我來說 449 01:13:21,291 --> 01:13:22,666 很深刻 450 01:13:23,625 --> 01:13:23,750 是的 451 01:13:24,625 --> 01:13:26,416 我也想問 452 01:13:26,625 --> 01:13:28,583 就像你剛才說的 453 01:13:28,583 --> 01:13:31,208 你做過的片種有很多 454 01:13:31,625 --> 01:13:32,500 你在過去 455 01:13:32,500 --> 01:13:33,208 30年裡面 456 01:13:33,625 --> 01:13:35,000 由你擔任美指 457 01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:37,083 或者美術監製的 458 01:13:37,083 --> 01:13:38,791 香港電影多不勝數 459 01:13:39,625 --> 01:13:40,291 對你來說哪一套電影是 460 01:13:40,625 --> 01:13:41,875 覺得最難忘 461 01:13:41,875 --> 01:13:45,166 或者最有成功感的呢 462 01:13:45,166 --> 01:13:47,125 　 463 01:13:47,625 --> 01:13:47,875 　 464 01:13:48,625 --> 01:13:49,458 最有成功感的 465 01:13:49,625 --> 01:13:50,041 　 466 01:13:51,625 --> 01:13:52,916 真心到現在 467 01:13:52,916 --> 01:13:53,791 都自己沒有 468 01:13:54,625 --> 01:13:55,291 一部電影覺得 469 01:13:55,625 --> 01:13:57,416 真的做得最好 470 01:13:57,625 --> 01:13:58,708 每一部都帶著 471 01:13:58,708 --> 01:13:59,625 很多遺憾 472 01:14:00,125 --> 01:14:00,666 在裡面 473 01:14:00,666 --> 01:14:01,333 　 474 01:14:01,625 --> 01:14:02,416 有些是 475 01:14:02,625 --> 01:14:03,291 大遺憾 476 01:14:03,625 --> 01:14:04,041 或小遺憾 477 01:14:04,625 --> 01:14:05,208 有時候看到 478 01:14:06,625 --> 01:14:07,125 那個人 479 01:14:07,125 --> 01:14:07,958 穿的衣服 480 01:14:08,625 --> 01:14:09,625 為什麼有一條很直的摺痕 481 01:14:09,625 --> 01:14:10,666 燙過的摺痕 482 01:14:10,666 --> 01:14:13,083 很明顯 483 01:14:13,083 --> 01:14:15,875 就是剛剛買的 484 01:14:15,875 --> 01:14:16,208 就是不知道 485 01:14:16,625 --> 01:14:16,916 為什麼會這樣 486 01:14:16,916 --> 01:14:18,416 或者睡過的枕頭 487 01:14:18,416 --> 01:14:20,666 為什麼會有條摺痕 488 01:14:20,666 --> 01:14:21,416 像這些我自己 489 01:14:21,416 --> 01:14:22,541 會過不去 490 01:14:22,541 --> 01:14:22,708 為什麼會這樣 491 01:14:23,625 --> 01:14:24,125 　 492 01:14:24,625 --> 01:14:25,375 大遺憾 493 01:14:25,375 --> 01:14:26,166 可能 494 01:14:26,625 --> 01:14:28,250 有些東西不連戲 495 01:14:28,625 --> 01:14:29,208 或者是 496 01:14:29,625 --> 01:14:31,208 顏色配得不好 497 01:14:31,208 --> 01:14:31,583 但是 498 01:14:32,625 --> 01:14:32,916 沒有辦法 499 01:14:32,916 --> 01:14:34,333 因為拍戲有時候很趕 500 01:14:34,625 --> 01:14:35,916 同一天有時拍 501 01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:38,708 四五六七八九場戲 502 01:14:38,708 --> 01:14:40,750 而每場戲都不是 503 01:14:40,750 --> 01:14:42,125 連戲 504 01:14:42,125 --> 01:14:42,375 　 505 01:14:42,625 --> 01:14:43,583 例如正在拍 506 01:14:43,958 --> 01:14:45,083 第三十場 507 01:14:45,083 --> 01:14:46,125 突然 508 01:14:46,625 --> 01:14:47,375 拍完就跳到 509 01:14:47,625 --> 01:14:49,416 第一百零幾場 510 01:14:49,625 --> 01:14:49,916 　 511 01:14:49,916 --> 01:14:51,000 馬上要換衣服 512 01:14:51,625 --> 01:14:52,083 有時候 513 01:14:52,083 --> 01:14:53,541 沒法想得很快 514 01:14:53,625 --> 01:14:55,583 當然我自己的習慣是 515 01:14:57,625 --> 01:14:58,083 拍之前 516 01:14:58,625 --> 01:15:00,416 就是會定好 517 01:15:00,625 --> 01:15:02,000 每一場戲 518 01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:03,000 穿什麼衣服 519 01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:03,416 貼好 520 01:15:03,625 --> 01:15:04,833 就是有本筆記 521 01:15:04,833 --> 01:15:05,583 跟著做 522 01:15:05,625 --> 01:15:06,708 但是 523 01:15:07,625 --> 01:15:08,500 拍戲 524 01:15:08,625 --> 01:15:09,500 現場很多東西 525 01:15:09,500 --> 01:15:11,041 是突然間 526 01:15:11,041 --> 01:15:11,958 你改變一件事 527 01:15:11,958 --> 01:15:13,625 就會影響所有其他東西 528 01:15:13,625 --> 01:15:14,166 譬如 529 01:15:14,625 --> 01:15:15,708 有三四個人 530 01:15:15,708 --> 01:15:17,666 一起演的 531 01:15:17,666 --> 01:15:18,583 同一場 532 01:15:18,625 --> 01:15:19,875 這個人的 533 01:15:19,875 --> 01:15:20,625 衣服 534 01:15:20,625 --> 01:15:21,500 改了顏色 535 01:15:22,375 --> 01:15:22,833 很可能 536 01:15:22,833 --> 01:15:23,666 其他人的都要改 537 01:15:23,666 --> 01:15:24,625 不然 538 01:15:24,625 --> 01:15:25,166 可能有些人 539 01:15:25,166 --> 01:15:25,916 就會穿一樣的衣服 540 01:15:25,916 --> 01:15:26,208 或者 541 01:15:27,625 --> 01:15:28,291 穿相同的顏色 542 01:15:28,625 --> 01:15:30,500 現場很多東西 543 01:15:30,625 --> 01:15:32,500 突然間改變 544 01:15:32,625 --> 01:15:32,958 所以 545 01:15:36,083 --> 01:15:37,291 每部戲都有些遺憾 546 01:15:37,625 --> 01:15:39,250 但是你問我 547 01:15:39,625 --> 01:15:40,708 我想最深刻 548 01:15:40,708 --> 01:15:41,166 都是 549 01:15:41,625 --> 01:15:41,791 真的 550 01:15:43,625 --> 01:15:44,000 我幫 551 01:15:44,625 --> 01:15:46,750 張叔平做助理 552 01:15:47,625 --> 01:15:49,833 在黃家衛公司的時候 553 01:15:50,625 --> 01:15:51,750 我做了六年 554 01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:52,583 那間公司 555 01:15:52,625 --> 01:15:53,208 就是由 556 01:15:54,625 --> 01:15:56,208 《墮落天使》開始做第一部 557 01:15:56,625 --> 01:15:57,333 跟著是 558 01:15:58,625 --> 01:15:59,166 《春光乍洩》 559 01:15:59,166 --> 01:16:00,541 還有《花樣年華》 560 01:16:00,541 --> 01:16:02,125 總共做了六年 561 01:16:02,625 --> 01:16:04,458 那是很辛苦的 562 01:16:04,625 --> 01:16:05,166 過程 563 01:16:05,625 --> 01:16:05,958 但是 564 01:16:06,625 --> 01:16:07,875 學到了最多東西 565 01:16:07,875 --> 01:16:08,583 還有 566 01:16:08,583 --> 01:16:10,583 真的對我 567 01:16:10,625 --> 01:16:11,833 日後影響都 568 01:16:11,833 --> 01:16:12,833 是挺大的 569 01:16:12,833 --> 01:16:13,291 　 570 01:16:14,625 --> 01:16:14,708 那個 571 01:16:16,625 --> 01:16:19,291 經驗是比較深刻的 572 01:16:19,291 --> 01:16:20,416 還有其中的 573 01:16:20,416 --> 01:16:21,500 那個辛苦度是 574 01:16:21,625 --> 01:16:21,875 　 575 01:16:21,875 --> 01:16:23,250 我可以講一下 576 01:16:23,250 --> 01:16:23,541 就是 577 01:16:24,625 --> 01:16:24,833 以前 578 01:16:25,625 --> 01:16:26,750 不知道為什麼 579 01:16:26,750 --> 01:16:27,708 那些電影製作 580 01:16:29,625 --> 01:16:31,083 整個團隊很少人 581 01:16:31,083 --> 01:16:31,500 可能只有 582 01:16:31,500 --> 01:16:32,875 二十至三十個人工作 583 01:16:33,625 --> 01:16:33,875 　 584 01:16:34,625 --> 01:16:35,833 現在是 585 01:16:35,833 --> 01:16:37,291 隨便都幾十人 586 01:16:37,291 --> 01:16:37,875 不知道為什麼 587 01:16:38,625 --> 01:16:40,250 如果在國內拍攝更厲害 588 01:16:40,625 --> 01:16:41,958 光是司機都有幾十人 589 01:16:42,958 --> 01:16:44,750 甚至不算工作人員 590 01:16:44,750 --> 01:16:44,875 　 591 01:16:45,625 --> 01:16:47,291 人少便代表同一時間 592 01:16:47,291 --> 01:16:48,458 你要做很多事情 593 01:16:48,625 --> 01:16:50,791 那我們有分 594 01:16:51,625 --> 01:16:51,916 譬如 595 01:16:52,625 --> 01:16:53,458 　 596 01:16:53,625 --> 01:16:54,250 　 597 01:16:54,625 --> 01:16:55,833 現在都會分 598 01:16:57,625 --> 01:16:58,458 跟場 599 01:16:58,625 --> 01:17:00,833 即是跟現場的美術 600 01:17:01,625 --> 01:17:02,250 陳設美術 601 01:17:02,625 --> 01:17:03,708 　 602 01:17:03,708 --> 01:17:04,333 即是 603 01:17:04,625 --> 01:17:05,000 拍之前 604 01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:05,791 準備好所有東西 605 01:17:06,625 --> 01:17:07,291 拍的時候他就走 606 01:17:07,625 --> 01:17:09,083 就會有一個跟場的來 607 01:17:09,625 --> 01:17:11,000 拍完之後 608 01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:12,291 就有人收景 609 01:17:12,625 --> 01:17:14,083 有些東西借了 610 01:17:14,625 --> 01:17:15,083 要還給人 611 01:17:15,625 --> 01:17:17,291 那個人負責收 612 01:17:17,625 --> 01:17:21,458 行內叫陳設、跟場、收景 613 01:17:21,625 --> 01:17:23,083 我以前是一個人 614 01:17:23,083 --> 01:17:23,958 甚麼都要做完 615 01:17:24,625 --> 01:17:27,000 即是陳設、跟場、收景 616 01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:28,541 又陳設、跟場、收景 617 01:17:28,791 --> 01:17:29,916 根本上是連續的 618 01:17:30,791 --> 01:17:31,291 完全 619 01:17:31,625 --> 01:17:32,958 沒得休息 620 01:17:33,625 --> 01:17:36,041 譬如《花樣年華》 621 01:17:36,041 --> 01:17:39,500 拍了15個月 622 01:17:39,625 --> 01:17:41,916 　 623 01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:42,666 中間有停了一下 624 01:17:42,666 --> 01:17:42,875 　 625 01:17:42,875 --> 01:17:44,791 去拍《2046》 626 01:17:44,791 --> 01:17:45,583 但 627 01:17:46,625 --> 01:17:46,916 一部 628 01:17:47,625 --> 01:17:49,125 這樣的電影 629 01:17:49,625 --> 01:17:50,916 　 630 01:17:50,916 --> 01:17:52,541 在美術和服裝上 631 01:17:52,541 --> 01:17:54,500 都有很大的工作量 632 01:17:55,208 --> 01:17:56,958 但整個美術部只有兩個人 633 01:17:58,458 --> 01:17:59,458 就是張叔平和我 634 01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:01,500 所以我 635 01:18:02,625 --> 01:18:04,708 基本上什麼都要做 636 01:18:04,708 --> 01:18:08,041 美術部是負責 637 01:18:08,041 --> 01:18:10,083 設計、採購跟 638 01:18:11,625 --> 01:18:12,291 執行 639 01:18:13,625 --> 01:18:14,791 　 640 01:18:14,791 --> 01:18:16,958 搭佈景或造衣服 641 01:18:16,958 --> 01:18:18,041 當然有裁縫 642 01:18:18,625 --> 01:18:20,625 有道具師傅和 643 01:18:20,625 --> 01:18:20,875 　 644 01:18:21,625 --> 01:18:22,625 搭佈景的師傅 645 01:18:22,625 --> 01:18:23,166 有幾個人 646 01:18:23,625 --> 01:18:26,500 但美術部真的只有兩個人 647 01:18:27,500 --> 01:18:27,750 所以 648 01:18:29,041 --> 01:18:29,583 很辛苦 649 01:18:29,625 --> 01:18:31,625 亦是最深刻 650 01:18:33,083 --> 01:18:34,041 我看過一些報導 651 01:18:34,041 --> 01:18:35,750 是關於張叔平的 652 01:18:35,750 --> 01:18:37,666 他又說了一句話 653 01:18:37,666 --> 01:18:38,750 讓我很深刻 654 01:18:38,750 --> 01:18:40,041 他說「你叫我做的事」 655 01:18:40,041 --> 01:18:41,375 「我一定會做到」 656 01:18:41,625 --> 01:18:42,208 「我一定會依時」 657 01:18:42,625 --> 01:18:43,750 「交給你」 658 01:18:43,750 --> 01:18:45,125 他一定會叫人做到 659 01:18:45,125 --> 01:18:48,333 　 660 01:18:48,625 --> 01:18:51,250 如果你在他身邊 661 01:18:51,250 --> 01:18:52,541 跟他一起共事 662 01:18:52,625 --> 01:18:54,208 真的會學到很多東西 663 01:18:54,208 --> 01:18:56,208 因為跟他共事是不能說不的 664 01:18:56,625 --> 01:18:57,583 　 665 01:18:57,625 --> 01:18:59,250 　 666 01:18:59,250 --> 01:19:00,541 譬如 667 01:19:01,625 --> 01:19:02,041 他叫你做一件事 668 01:19:02,625 --> 01:19:02,958 　 669 01:19:03,625 --> 01:19:04,916 因為各種原因沒有 670 01:19:05,625 --> 01:19:06,000 　 671 01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:07,291 像叫你買一樣東西 672 01:19:07,625 --> 01:19:08,833 原來沒有貨 673 01:19:11,625 --> 01:19:12,416 總之你在 674 01:19:13,625 --> 01:19:15,500 報告給他聽之前 675 01:19:15,625 --> 01:19:17,458 你不可以只告訴他沒有 676 01:19:17,625 --> 01:19:19,041 起碼有三個選擇 677 01:19:19,625 --> 01:19:19,916 告訴他就算沒有 678 01:19:19,916 --> 01:19:22,250 不過可以怎樣 679 01:19:23,625 --> 01:19:24,083 這個理論 680 01:19:24,625 --> 01:19:26,041 適用於所有打工仔 681 01:19:26,625 --> 01:19:27,916 老闆叫我們做事時 682 01:19:27,916 --> 01:19:29,375 我們全部都要說有 683 01:19:29,625 --> 01:19:30,375 不過 684 01:19:30,625 --> 01:19:32,083 可以這樣 685 01:19:32,625 --> 01:19:33,666 但現在 686 01:19:33,666 --> 01:19:35,958 很多同事 687 01:19:35,958 --> 01:19:36,708 真的只會告訴你 688 01:19:36,708 --> 01:19:37,208 沒有 689 01:19:37,625 --> 01:19:39,583 還要你催他　才告訴你沒有 690 01:19:39,625 --> 01:19:41,708 現在真的不同了 691 01:19:41,708 --> 01:19:45,291 我覺得 692 01:19:45,625 --> 01:19:46,416 你講到這件事 693 01:19:46,625 --> 01:19:46,791 　 694 01:19:47,625 --> 01:19:50,375 就剛好切入《無中生有》 695 01:19:50,625 --> 01:19:52,083 就算沒有的時候 696 01:19:52,083 --> 01:19:53,666 都要變得出來 697 01:19:53,666 --> 01:19:54,916 這樣你可以做到 698 01:19:54,916 --> 01:19:55,583 電影業的築夢人 699 01:19:55,625 --> 01:19:58,041 才可以造到夢工場 700 01:19:58,041 --> 01:19:58,833 根據資料 701 01:19:58,833 --> 01:19:59,250 　 702 01:19:59,625 --> 01:20:01,416 　 703 01:20:01,625 --> 01:20:03,416 Man Sir都擔任了 704 01:20:03,416 --> 01:20:05,750 香港電影美術學會會長 705 01:20:05,750 --> 01:20:07,750 而且在剛剛 706 01:20:07,750 --> 01:20:09,333 9月時 707 01:20:09,333 --> 01:20:09,916 在香港 708 01:20:09,916 --> 01:20:10,916 舉行了 709 01:20:10,916 --> 01:20:12,291 首個《無中生有》 710 01:20:12,291 --> 01:20:13,833 香港電影美術及 711 01:20:13,833 --> 01:20:15,208 服裝造型展 712 01:20:15,208 --> 01:20:17,333 在短短的 713 01:20:17,333 --> 01:20:17,958 四個月裡 714 01:20:17,958 --> 01:20:20,625 有近7萬人次入場 715 01:20:20,625 --> 01:20:22,125 可不可以和我們分享 716 01:20:22,125 --> 01:20:23,208 多一點關於 717 01:20:23,208 --> 01:20:24,583 差不多8萬人 718 01:20:24,625 --> 01:20:26,583 最後幾天打風 719 01:20:26,625 --> 01:20:27,958 就不開館 720 01:20:27,958 --> 01:20:28,791 不然 721 01:20:28,791 --> 01:20:29,291 應該 722 01:20:29,625 --> 01:20:31,041 可達到8萬人 723 01:20:31,625 --> 01:20:32,833 我覺得很可惜 724 01:20:32,833 --> 01:20:33,583 不知道大家 725 01:20:33,583 --> 01:20:35,250 剛剛有沒有看到一些片段 726 01:20:35,250 --> 01:20:35,750 　 727 01:20:35,750 --> 01:20:37,208 那個展覽 728 01:20:37,208 --> 01:20:38,083 像你們說的 729 01:20:38,083 --> 01:20:39,583 真的應該做一個 730 01:20:39,583 --> 01:20:40,583 永久的展覽 731 01:20:40,583 --> 01:20:41,791 因為我們在海外的 732 01:20:41,791 --> 01:20:42,250 香港人 733 01:20:42,625 --> 01:20:43,583 真的錯過了 734 01:20:43,625 --> 01:20:44,333 　 735 01:20:44,625 --> 01:20:46,000 不如你多說一點 736 01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:47,500 我們有和 737 01:20:47,625 --> 01:20:51,875 楊潤雄局長 738 01:20:51,875 --> 01:20:53,041 談過 739 01:20:53,041 --> 01:20:53,333 但是 740 01:20:53,625 --> 01:20:54,833 如果想要 741 01:20:54,833 --> 01:20:57,000 辦一個常設的展覽 742 01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:58,000 真的需要地方 743 01:20:58,000 --> 01:20:59,750 現在是沒有一個 744 01:20:59,750 --> 01:21:02,958 場館可以做 745 01:21:03,416 --> 01:21:04,208 先說一下展覽 746 01:21:04,208 --> 01:21:05,208 　 747 01:21:05,208 --> 01:21:06,666 香港電影美術學會 748 01:21:06,666 --> 01:21:08,708 在剛剛上個月的28號 749 01:21:08,708 --> 01:21:10,791 　 750 01:21:11,375 --> 01:21:14,375 已經成立了28年 751 01:21:14,375 --> 01:21:15,083 　 752 01:21:15,625 --> 01:21:16,750 　 753 01:21:16,750 --> 01:21:17,791 這麼多年 754 01:21:17,791 --> 01:21:18,333 有很多 755 01:21:18,625 --> 01:21:19,833 很有經驗的 756 01:21:19,833 --> 01:21:21,208 美術指導和前輩 757 01:21:22,625 --> 01:21:24,125 在很多年前 758 01:21:24,125 --> 01:21:25,041 就成立了 759 01:21:25,041 --> 01:21:25,291 　 760 01:21:25,625 --> 01:21:27,291 香港電影美術學會 761 01:21:27,291 --> 01:21:29,333 目的是想 762 01:21:29,333 --> 01:21:30,708 凝聚一群 763 01:21:30,708 --> 01:21:32,375 電影美術指導 764 01:21:32,375 --> 01:21:33,041 或同業 765 01:21:33,166 --> 01:21:34,458 希望推廣 766 01:21:34,625 --> 01:21:35,916 香港電影美術 767 01:21:35,916 --> 01:21:37,833 並以學術 768 01:21:37,833 --> 01:21:40,958 為主要的宗旨 769 01:21:40,958 --> 01:21:42,291 我們不是一個工會 770 01:21:42,291 --> 01:21:43,208 不可以去 771 01:21:43,208 --> 01:21:44,541 幫人爭取加薪 772 01:21:44,625 --> 01:21:45,541 或者 773 01:21:45,625 --> 01:21:46,541 有人 774 01:21:46,625 --> 01:21:48,458 有勞資糾紛 775 01:21:48,458 --> 01:21:49,708 我們沒辦法 776 01:21:49,708 --> 01:21:50,375 去做 777 01:21:50,375 --> 01:21:50,583 因為 778 01:21:50,625 --> 01:21:51,583 我們不是一個工會 779 01:21:51,625 --> 01:21:52,750 我們是希望 780 01:21:52,750 --> 01:21:53,000 　 781 01:21:53,625 --> 01:21:54,083 有很多 782 01:21:54,625 --> 01:21:55,458 學術的分享 783 01:21:55,625 --> 01:21:56,625 或者是 784 01:21:56,708 --> 01:21:58,625 提升大家 785 01:21:58,625 --> 01:22:01,416 在行業裏的水平 786 01:22:01,625 --> 01:22:02,333 　 787 01:22:02,625 --> 01:22:04,500 至於這個展覽 788 01:22:04,625 --> 01:22:05,250 其實在 789 01:22:05,625 --> 01:22:07,416 很多年前 790 01:22:08,625 --> 01:22:09,458 已經有 791 01:22:09,458 --> 01:22:10,125 這樣的構思 792 01:22:10,625 --> 01:22:11,083 　 793 01:22:11,625 --> 01:22:12,583 我們在 794 01:22:13,625 --> 01:22:14,375 20年前 795 01:22:14,625 --> 01:22:15,875 就做了一本 796 01:22:16,625 --> 01:22:17,500 書叫做 797 01:22:17,500 --> 01:22:18,625 《繁花盛放》 798 01:22:18,750 --> 01:22:18,958 　 799 01:22:19,625 --> 01:22:20,750 講香港電影美術的 800 01:22:20,750 --> 01:22:23,541 當時 801 01:22:23,625 --> 01:22:24,708 更資深的 802 01:22:24,708 --> 01:22:26,083 一些美術指導 803 01:22:26,083 --> 01:22:27,708 說了很多 804 01:22:27,708 --> 01:22:29,000 香港電影美術的特色 805 01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:29,666 譬如他們的 806 01:22:29,666 --> 01:22:30,791 用色 807 01:22:30,791 --> 01:22:31,416 或者怎樣 808 01:22:31,625 --> 01:22:33,583 去解決一些 809 01:22:33,625 --> 01:22:37,208 電影的問題 810 01:22:37,208 --> 01:22:37,541 或者 811 01:22:37,625 --> 01:22:38,750 燈光 812 01:22:38,750 --> 01:22:39,541 比較 813 01:22:39,625 --> 01:22:40,333 實用性 814 01:22:40,625 --> 01:22:41,250 我們 815 01:22:41,625 --> 01:22:42,125 　 816 01:22:42,625 --> 01:22:43,458 早幾年 817 01:22:43,458 --> 01:22:44,500 再開會時 818 01:22:44,500 --> 01:22:45,583 就說20年了 819 01:22:45,583 --> 01:22:46,166 　 820 01:22:46,166 --> 01:22:46,958 是否應該 821 01:22:47,625 --> 01:22:48,541 再出一本書 822 01:22:48,625 --> 01:22:49,958 有這麼多新人 823 01:22:49,958 --> 01:22:50,208 　 824 01:22:50,625 --> 01:22:51,291 這麼多 825 01:22:51,833 --> 01:22:53,250 好的作品 826 01:22:53,666 --> 01:22:54,083 是否應該 827 01:22:54,083 --> 01:22:55,250 是時候再 828 01:22:55,625 --> 01:22:56,541 再提一下呢 829 01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:57,666 接著 830 01:22:57,666 --> 01:22:58,666 聊著聊著 831 01:22:58,666 --> 01:23:00,500 剛好那時候 832 01:23:00,625 --> 01:23:02,000 Tim Burton 833 01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:02,750 在香港有一個 834 01:23:02,750 --> 01:23:04,666 他的展覽 835 01:23:04,666 --> 01:23:05,250 　 836 01:23:05,625 --> 01:23:06,875 他的電影在 837 01:23:06,875 --> 01:23:07,250 　 838 01:23:07,625 --> 01:23:08,416 視角風格 839 01:23:08,416 --> 01:23:09,500 和美術上 840 01:23:09,625 --> 01:23:11,000 都是很有特色的 841 01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:11,250 我們都覺得 842 01:23:11,250 --> 01:23:12,500 該展覽很好看 843 01:23:12,500 --> 01:23:13,500 因為很多道具 844 01:23:13,500 --> 01:23:14,125 很多圖 845 01:23:15,166 --> 01:23:15,791 　 846 01:23:15,791 --> 01:23:16,000 就啟發了我們 847 01:23:16,625 --> 01:23:18,000 是不是其實 848 01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:18,666 　 849 01:23:18,666 --> 01:23:20,250 除了出書 850 01:23:20,250 --> 01:23:21,000 是否可以 851 01:23:21,458 --> 01:23:22,208 做一個展覽 852 01:23:23,041 --> 01:23:23,500 接著 853 01:23:23,500 --> 01:23:23,916 就開始 854 01:23:23,916 --> 01:23:24,708 接觸不同的 855 01:23:24,708 --> 01:23:26,833 合作單位 856 01:23:26,833 --> 01:23:27,375 譬如有 857 01:23:27,375 --> 01:23:28,125 跟M Plus談過 858 01:23:28,625 --> 01:23:30,125 　 859 01:23:30,125 --> 01:23:30,333 有跟其他的博物館談過 860 01:23:32,625 --> 01:23:33,416 最後跟沙田文化博物館 861 01:23:39,625 --> 01:23:40,458 大家在合作上 862 01:23:41,791 --> 01:23:42,500 或者在 863 01:23:42,625 --> 01:23:43,958 策展方向上 864 01:23:43,958 --> 01:23:45,416 都比較接近 865 01:23:46,166 --> 01:23:49,208 最後就決定在那裏搞 866 01:23:49,625 --> 01:23:51,583 美術學會 867 01:23:51,625 --> 01:23:52,208 主要就 868 01:23:52,625 --> 01:23:53,500 成立了一個 869 01:23:53,625 --> 01:23:54,833 策展小組 870 01:23:54,833 --> 01:23:55,875 有我 871 01:23:55,875 --> 01:23:56,875 劉天蘭 872 01:23:56,875 --> 01:23:58,000 和另外兩位 873 01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:00,083 很資深的同事 874 01:24:00,083 --> 01:24:01,916 其實 875 01:24:03,625 --> 01:24:05,208 都談了兩年多 876 01:24:07,625 --> 01:24:09,166 大家有很多想法 877 01:24:09,166 --> 01:24:09,333 而且 878 01:24:09,625 --> 01:24:11,250 香港電影有那麼多 879 01:24:11,875 --> 01:24:13,583 那麼精彩的東西 880 01:24:13,666 --> 01:24:15,250 究竟選哪些 881 01:24:15,666 --> 01:24:17,750 放在展覽上 882 01:24:17,750 --> 01:24:18,541 當然 883 01:24:18,625 --> 01:24:20,750 有很多展品最後 884 01:24:20,750 --> 01:24:21,666 是受制於 885 01:24:22,625 --> 01:24:24,125 版權使用 886 01:24:24,958 --> 01:24:26,125 有看過 887 01:24:26,625 --> 01:24:27,375 展覽的 888 01:24:27,625 --> 01:24:29,208 有些觀眾可能會說 889 01:24:29,625 --> 01:24:30,958 為什麼這麼少 890 01:24:33,625 --> 01:24:35,708 黃家衛的戲的東西 891 01:24:36,625 --> 01:24:37,416 我們也想有 892 01:24:39,041 --> 01:24:39,958 但是我們得不到 893 01:24:41,250 --> 01:24:42,000 得不到使用許可權 894 01:24:44,625 --> 01:24:45,583 所以沒辦法 895 01:24:46,625 --> 01:24:47,958 辦一個展覽 896 01:24:48,625 --> 01:24:49,458 很多人在說 897 01:24:49,625 --> 01:24:50,541 版權 898 01:24:52,625 --> 01:24:53,208 還有因為 899 01:24:53,208 --> 01:24:55,208 很多拍完戲的 900 01:24:55,625 --> 01:24:56,333 服裝或道具 901 01:24:56,625 --> 01:24:57,541 電影公司沒有保留 902 01:24:58,625 --> 01:24:59,708 我們想 903 01:24:59,708 --> 01:25:00,958 這次展覽所有 904 01:25:00,958 --> 01:25:02,500 展出的展品 905 01:25:02,625 --> 01:25:03,833 都是真品 906 01:25:03,833 --> 01:25:04,500 不是再做的 907 01:25:05,625 --> 01:25:07,666 並不是復刻的展品 908 01:25:08,625 --> 01:25:10,000 在找展品 909 01:25:13,083 --> 01:25:14,041 都有些困難 910 01:25:15,625 --> 01:25:17,250 變成一直談 911 01:25:17,625 --> 01:25:19,375 慢慢慢慢 912 01:25:19,375 --> 01:25:21,125 才形成了 913 01:25:21,625 --> 01:25:22,416 這次的展覽 914 01:25:23,625 --> 01:25:25,208 主要是一個呈現 915 01:25:25,791 --> 01:25:27,416 工業的 916 01:25:27,625 --> 01:25:29,333 歷史和 917 01:25:29,625 --> 01:25:31,791 特色的展覽 918 01:25:32,625 --> 01:25:34,625 目前反應都 919 01:25:34,625 --> 01:25:35,916 不錯的 920 01:25:35,916 --> 01:25:36,875 很多人看完就說 921 01:25:36,875 --> 01:25:37,541 如果 922 01:25:38,625 --> 01:25:39,500 做不到一個 923 01:25:39,625 --> 01:25:40,583 常設的展覽 924 01:25:40,583 --> 01:25:41,583 都挺可惜 925 01:25:41,625 --> 01:25:41,916 因為 926 01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:46,166 我知道有很多 927 01:25:46,625 --> 01:25:47,208 特別是 928 01:25:47,625 --> 01:25:48,583 大陸的 929 01:25:48,625 --> 01:25:50,541 喜歡香港電影的人 930 01:25:50,625 --> 01:25:52,083 都特地來香港看 931 01:25:52,625 --> 01:25:53,625 因為政府 932 01:25:53,625 --> 01:25:54,083 都在說 933 01:25:54,625 --> 01:25:56,916 如果有一些 934 01:25:56,916 --> 01:25:58,083 旅遊點 935 01:25:58,083 --> 01:25:58,708 可以吸引 936 01:25:59,458 --> 01:26:00,291 遊客來 937 01:26:00,291 --> 01:26:00,958 這展覽 938 01:26:00,958 --> 01:26:01,625 都可以是一個 939 01:26:01,625 --> 01:26:02,458 考慮的 940 01:26:03,625 --> 01:26:04,791 項目 941 01:26:04,791 --> 01:26:05,375 所以 942 01:26:05,625 --> 01:26:06,791 我們希望都可以 943 01:26:06,791 --> 01:26:08,208 繼續跟政府 944 01:26:08,208 --> 01:26:08,750 溝通 945 01:26:08,750 --> 01:26:09,500 如果可以的話 946 01:26:10,625 --> 01:26:10,916 就看將來 947 01:26:10,916 --> 01:26:11,458 有沒有機會 948 01:26:11,458 --> 01:26:12,208 成為一個 949 01:26:12,208 --> 01:26:13,625 常設的展覽館 950 01:26:14,708 --> 01:26:15,208 Man Sir就很謙虛地說 951 01:26:16,500 --> 01:26:17,750 他們的展品不夠多 952 01:26:18,708 --> 01:26:19,041 但是 953 01:26:19,041 --> 01:26:19,833 如果有看 954 01:26:19,833 --> 01:26:21,083 那個影片的話 955 01:26:21,083 --> 01:26:21,916 我已覺得有 956 01:26:21,916 --> 01:26:22,666 很多 957 01:26:22,666 --> 01:26:24,083 好經典的東西 958 01:26:24,083 --> 01:26:24,791 在裡面 959 01:26:24,791 --> 01:26:25,833 譬如 960 01:26:25,833 --> 01:26:27,708 黃金甲 961 01:26:28,625 --> 01:26:29,500 除了黃金甲之外 962 01:26:30,250 --> 01:26:32,958 它不是一個單純的 963 01:26:32,958 --> 01:26:34,791 擺在牆上的展覽 964 01:26:34,791 --> 01:26:35,208 我覺得 965 01:26:35,208 --> 01:26:36,041 所有擺設 966 01:26:36,041 --> 01:26:36,875 都已經是一個陳設 967 01:26:38,625 --> 01:26:38,916 一個藝術裝置 968 01:26:40,625 --> 01:26:41,916 我印象很深刻的是 969 01:26:42,625 --> 01:26:44,833 《梅艷芳》的那套電影 970 01:26:44,833 --> 01:26:46,583 的服裝清單 971 01:26:46,625 --> 01:26:48,083 光是那張紙 972 01:26:48,083 --> 01:26:48,708 就已經覺得 973 01:26:48,708 --> 01:26:49,958 很漂亮 974 01:26:50,625 --> 01:26:51,333 果然全部 975 01:26:51,333 --> 01:26:52,666 都是做藝術的人 976 01:26:52,666 --> 01:26:53,250 　 977 01:26:53,625 --> 01:26:54,458 我們 978 01:26:54,625 --> 01:26:55,125 主要是 979 01:26:55,125 --> 01:26:57,250 想怎樣 980 01:26:57,625 --> 01:26:58,291 用每一件展品 981 01:26:58,291 --> 01:26:58,708 怎樣去講 982 01:26:59,625 --> 01:27:01,125 展品背後的故事 983 01:27:01,625 --> 01:27:01,958 還有 984 01:27:02,625 --> 01:27:03,541 怎樣可以 985 01:27:03,625 --> 01:27:04,041 　 986 01:27:04,041 --> 01:27:05,333 不像其他展覽 987 01:27:05,625 --> 01:27:06,541 　 988 01:27:06,625 --> 01:27:07,208 　 989 01:27:07,625 --> 01:27:08,166 只把衣服 990 01:27:08,625 --> 01:27:09,250 穿在人偶上 991 01:27:09,625 --> 01:27:11,208 雖然我們也有 992 01:27:11,625 --> 01:27:12,333 一些戲服 993 01:27:12,625 --> 01:27:13,583 展示出來 994 01:27:14,625 --> 01:27:16,666 在展覽的尾部 995 01:27:16,666 --> 01:27:17,291 好像一個 996 01:27:17,625 --> 01:27:17,916 陳設一樣 997 01:27:18,625 --> 01:27:19,875 但也有一個概念 998 01:27:19,875 --> 01:27:20,625 　 999 01:27:20,625 --> 01:27:21,708 　 1000 01:27:21,708 --> 01:27:22,041 我們這次的展覽 1001 01:27:22,625 --> 01:27:23,083 　 1002 01:27:23,083 --> 01:27:24,000 主要分了兩部分 1003 01:27:24,625 --> 01:27:25,625 白區 1004 01:27:25,625 --> 01:27:26,416 和黑區 1005 01:27:26,625 --> 01:27:27,458 白區就好像 1006 01:27:27,458 --> 01:27:28,333 一個工作間 1007 01:27:28,625 --> 01:27:29,625 有些人進去會覺得 1008 01:27:29,625 --> 01:27:29,958 　 1009 01:27:29,958 --> 01:27:31,125 為什麼好像一個辦公室 1010 01:27:31,625 --> 01:27:31,708 　 1011 01:27:31,708 --> 01:27:33,000 這正是是我們想 1012 01:27:33,625 --> 01:27:34,583 表達給大家看 1013 01:27:34,625 --> 01:27:35,500 美術指導 1014 01:27:35,500 --> 01:27:36,333 或服裝指導的 1015 01:27:36,666 --> 01:27:37,750 工作間 1016 01:27:37,750 --> 01:27:38,750 是怎樣的呢 1017 01:27:38,750 --> 01:27:40,125 透過工作間 1018 01:27:40,125 --> 01:27:40,916 去告訴大家 1019 01:27:40,916 --> 01:27:42,250 他們在做什麼 1020 01:27:42,625 --> 01:27:44,000 那就是白區 1021 01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:44,791 而黑區 1022 01:27:44,791 --> 01:27:46,041 就是 1023 01:27:46,625 --> 01:27:47,791 做完設計和發展後 1024 01:27:47,791 --> 01:27:48,458 　 1025 01:27:48,625 --> 01:27:48,750 　 1026 01:27:49,625 --> 01:27:51,208 　 1027 01:27:51,208 --> 01:27:52,625 去到片場 1028 01:27:52,625 --> 01:27:53,333 又是怎樣呢 1029 01:27:53,625 --> 01:27:54,833 黑區就好像 1030 01:27:55,625 --> 01:27:56,791 進入片場 1031 01:27:56,791 --> 01:27:57,791 等待拍戲一樣 1032 01:27:57,791 --> 01:27:59,166 所以那些人偶 1033 01:27:59,166 --> 01:28:00,250 穿了戲服 1034 01:28:00,291 --> 01:28:01,208 譬如穿著 1035 01:28:01,208 --> 01:28:01,708 阮玲玉 1036 01:28:01,708 --> 01:28:03,000 穿著黃金甲等 1037 01:28:03,791 --> 01:28:04,250 那些戲服 1038 01:28:04,250 --> 01:28:04,666 他們有些人 1039 01:28:04,666 --> 01:28:05,583 　 1040 01:28:05,625 --> 01:28:05,833 　 1041 01:28:06,625 --> 01:28:08,708 梁朝偉的人偶 1042 01:28:08,708 --> 01:28:10,458 穿著《英雄》那套藍色衣服 1043 01:28:10,625 --> 01:28:11,458 拿著iPad看劇本 1044 01:28:11,625 --> 01:28:12,500 　 1045 01:28:13,625 --> 01:28:15,375 張曼玉的阮玲玉 1046 01:28:15,625 --> 01:28:16,541 　 1047 01:28:16,541 --> 01:28:17,208 就拿著修臉的機器 1048 01:28:17,208 --> 01:28:18,166 　 1049 01:28:18,625 --> 01:28:19,875 正等待化妝 1050 01:28:19,875 --> 01:28:20,458 　 1051 01:28:20,458 --> 01:28:21,666 全部是在等待 1052 01:28:21,666 --> 01:28:22,458 　 1053 01:28:22,625 --> 01:28:24,541 等待拍戲的狀態 1054 01:28:24,625 --> 01:28:27,666 想說比較有趣 1055 01:28:27,666 --> 01:28:28,041 　 1056 01:28:28,041 --> 01:28:28,666 都是在說 1057 01:28:29,625 --> 01:28:31,541 一個電影工業的故事 1058 01:28:31,625 --> 01:28:32,583 　 1059 01:28:33,625 --> 01:28:35,416 我看影片 1060 01:28:35,416 --> 01:28:36,291 已經覺得很有趣 1061 01:28:36,625 --> 01:28:37,416 所以我希望 1062 01:28:37,625 --> 01:28:38,375 這個展覽 1063 01:28:38,625 --> 01:28:39,541 可以成為常設 1064 01:28:39,625 --> 01:28:40,458 　 1065 01:28:40,625 --> 01:28:42,625 或者有更多的展覽 1066 01:28:42,625 --> 01:28:43,250 　 1067 01:28:43,250 --> 01:28:44,166 可以讓我們去參與 1068 01:28:44,166 --> 01:28:45,250 特別是海外的觀眾 1069 01:28:45,625 --> 01:28:46,750 我們都很喜歡香港電影 1070 01:28:46,750 --> 01:28:47,625 　 1071 01:28:47,625 --> 01:28:48,250 　 1072 01:28:48,625 --> 01:28:50,791 真的有點難度 1073 01:28:50,791 --> 01:28:51,083 　 1074 01:28:52,625 --> 01:28:53,041 展覽結束後 1075 01:28:53,625 --> 01:28:54,833 都有幾個不同地方 1076 01:28:54,833 --> 01:28:55,541 　 1077 01:28:55,625 --> 01:28:56,166 嘗試聯絡我們 1078 01:28:56,625 --> 01:28:57,208 例如 1079 01:28:57,625 --> 01:28:59,291 有東京的領事館 1080 01:28:59,625 --> 01:29:00,500 北京的辦公室 1081 01:29:01,458 --> 01:29:02,291 　 1082 01:29:02,291 --> 01:29:07,083 但並不是 1083 01:29:07,083 --> 01:29:08,708 把一個展覽 1084 01:29:08,708 --> 01:29:10,375 搬去另一個地方就可以 1085 01:29:10,625 --> 01:29:11,750 　 1086 01:29:11,750 --> 01:29:12,125 　 1087 01:29:12,625 --> 01:29:12,958 　 1088 01:29:13,625 --> 01:29:14,208 我們都要 1089 01:29:14,208 --> 01:29:15,625 因應那個地方的大小 1090 01:29:15,625 --> 01:29:16,416 　 1091 01:29:16,625 --> 01:29:16,916 怎樣去佈局 1092 01:29:17,625 --> 01:29:18,000 　 1093 01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:18,750 所有東西 1094 01:29:18,750 --> 01:29:19,458 基本上是要重新做過 1095 01:29:19,458 --> 01:29:22,250 　 1096 01:29:22,708 --> 01:29:23,583 但我們在 1097 01:29:23,625 --> 01:29:23,958 　 1098 01:29:23,958 --> 01:29:25,291 辦這個展覽時 1099 01:29:26,250 --> 01:29:26,666 談了一年多兩年 1100 01:29:26,666 --> 01:29:28,250 　 1101 01:29:28,250 --> 01:29:29,166 　 1102 01:29:29,166 --> 01:29:29,583 　 1103 01:29:29,625 --> 01:29:31,583 最後那一年基本上 1104 01:29:31,625 --> 01:29:32,125 　 1105 01:29:32,625 --> 01:29:33,625 每兩個星期 1106 01:29:33,625 --> 01:29:34,791 都要開兩三個小時的會議 1107 01:29:34,791 --> 01:29:36,333 其實是很大的工作量 1108 01:29:36,625 --> 01:29:37,333 　 1109 01:29:37,625 --> 01:29:37,666 　 1110 01:29:37,666 --> 01:29:39,083 去做一個展覽 1111 01:29:39,083 --> 01:29:39,500 如果再搬去另一個地方 1112 01:29:39,500 --> 01:29:41,083 　 1113 01:29:41,083 --> 01:29:41,541 　 1114 01:29:42,625 --> 01:29:43,875 應該這樣說 1115 01:29:43,875 --> 01:29:44,041 而且剛好 1116 01:29:44,625 --> 01:29:45,875 　 1117 01:29:45,875 --> 01:29:47,291 不知道幸運還是不幸運 1118 01:29:47,625 --> 01:29:49,333 我們花了最多時間 1119 01:29:49,333 --> 01:29:51,291 去討論這展覽的時候 1120 01:29:51,625 --> 01:29:52,541 正正就是 1121 01:29:52,541 --> 01:29:53,750 疫情最嚴重的時候 1122 01:29:54,333 --> 01:29:55,666 大家都沒工作 1123 01:29:55,666 --> 01:29:56,291 　 1124 01:29:56,625 --> 01:29:57,750 都可以在家裡 1125 01:29:57,750 --> 01:29:58,583 開線上會議 1126 01:29:58,625 --> 01:29:59,208 　 1127 01:29:59,625 --> 01:30:01,208 可以用很多時間 1128 01:30:01,208 --> 01:30:02,416 去討論這個展覽 1129 01:30:02,625 --> 01:30:04,208 　 1130 01:30:04,208 --> 01:30:04,958 還有我剛才說 1131 01:30:04,958 --> 01:30:07,208 做了60個人的訪問 1132 01:30:07,208 --> 01:30:09,250 大家都不用飛　在香港 1133 01:30:09,625 --> 01:30:11,875 我們又可以約到 1134 01:30:11,875 --> 01:30:13,083 很短時間三個月之內 1135 01:30:13,083 --> 01:30:14,125 　 1136 01:30:14,125 --> 01:30:16,041 約了60個人做訪問 1137 01:30:16,041 --> 01:30:16,916 　 1138 01:30:17,125 --> 01:30:17,458 　 1139 01:30:17,625 --> 01:30:18,916 但今時今日 1140 01:30:18,916 --> 01:30:19,916 大家開始飛開始忙碌 1141 01:30:19,916 --> 01:30:21,250 　 1142 01:30:21,333 --> 01:30:21,750 　 1143 01:30:21,750 --> 01:30:23,375 要坐下來 1144 01:30:23,375 --> 01:30:25,791 做到這個訪問可能都難 1145 01:30:26,333 --> 01:30:27,291 　 1146 01:30:27,625 --> 01:30:28,708 剛才說 1147 01:30:28,708 --> 01:30:31,833 如果要把這展覽搬去外地 1148 01:30:31,833 --> 01:30:32,958 我們都需要找到人手 1149 01:30:35,625 --> 01:30:36,708 　 1150 01:30:36,708 --> 01:30:37,125 可以好像之前一樣 1151 01:30:37,125 --> 01:30:38,458 　 1152 01:30:38,458 --> 01:30:40,833 很投入去做這件事 1153 01:30:40,833 --> 01:30:43,375 　 1154 01:30:43,541 --> 01:30:45,666 也是很困難的 1155 01:30:46,250 --> 01:30:47,291 　 1156 01:30:48,750 --> 01:30:49,291 所以我們錯失了 1157 01:30:49,625 --> 01:30:49,958 　 1158 01:30:49,958 --> 01:30:51,166 很美好的事情 1159 01:30:51,625 --> 01:30:52,625 　 1160 01:30:52,625 --> 01:30:53,708 在近年 1161 01:30:53,708 --> 01:30:55,250 除了美指之外 1162 01:30:55,250 --> 01:30:56,041 Man Sir都得到很多 1163 01:30:57,625 --> 01:30:58,375 服裝設計、造型設計的獎項 1164 01:30:59,708 --> 01:31:00,458 　 1165 01:31:00,625 --> 01:31:03,166 在美指和服裝或造型設計 1166 01:31:03,166 --> 01:31:04,208 　 1167 01:31:04,208 --> 01:31:05,833 這兩者之間有什麼不同 1168 01:31:05,916 --> 01:31:07,250 又或者是他們要 1169 01:31:07,625 --> 01:31:09,375 怎樣去配合一套戲 1170 01:31:12,625 --> 01:31:13,333 　 1171 01:31:16,625 --> 01:31:19,375 工作都頗不同 1172 01:31:20,625 --> 01:31:21,875 美術主要較著重環境 1173 01:31:22,833 --> 01:31:26,125 　 1174 01:31:26,125 --> 01:31:29,125 和宏觀的世界 1175 01:31:30,625 --> 01:31:31,875 服裝指導比較著重 1176 01:31:31,875 --> 01:31:35,458 在演員身上 1177 01:31:35,875 --> 01:31:36,625 即角色人物的設計 1178 01:31:37,625 --> 01:31:38,083 　 1179 01:31:38,625 --> 01:31:40,583 怎樣讓觀眾 1180 01:31:41,625 --> 01:31:43,458 投入角色 1181 01:31:43,625 --> 01:31:46,166 進入電影的世界 1182 01:31:47,625 --> 01:31:49,833 兩者是互相關連的 1183 01:31:50,083 --> 01:31:50,583 但因為行業的分工 1184 01:31:50,625 --> 01:31:54,666 　 1185 01:31:54,666 --> 01:31:55,958 變成了 1186 01:31:55,958 --> 01:31:57,333 有些美術指導 1187 01:31:57,333 --> 01:31:58,458 兩者都會做 1188 01:31:58,458 --> 01:31:59,083 譬如我可以 1189 01:32:01,666 --> 01:32:03,000 同時做景和衣服 1190 01:32:03,625 --> 01:32:05,541 　 1191 01:32:05,583 --> 01:32:06,666 但有些美術指導只會做衣服 1192 01:32:06,666 --> 01:32:07,458 　 1193 01:32:07,458 --> 01:32:08,333 有些只會做服裝指導 1194 01:32:08,458 --> 01:32:09,125 　 1195 01:32:09,541 --> 01:32:10,791 但兩者之間很有關連 1196 01:32:10,791 --> 01:32:11,666 　 1197 01:32:11,666 --> 01:32:12,708 　 1198 01:32:12,708 --> 01:32:14,500 和需要溝通的 1199 01:32:14,625 --> 01:32:16,666 我就沒有特別喜歡 1200 01:32:16,666 --> 01:32:17,458 　 1201 01:32:17,458 --> 01:32:19,083 做甚麼比較多 1202 01:32:19,083 --> 01:32:19,583 但是有時候 1203 01:32:19,625 --> 01:32:21,791 　 1204 01:32:21,791 --> 01:32:23,125 做服裝可能比較簡單 1205 01:32:23,125 --> 01:32:24,291 　 1206 01:32:24,291 --> 01:32:25,333 專注將所有集中力 1207 01:32:27,625 --> 01:32:28,208 　 1208 01:32:29,625 --> 01:32:30,666 　 1209 01:32:30,666 --> 01:32:32,458 放在演員身上 1210 01:32:32,625 --> 01:32:33,958 我有時候也喜歡專心一點 1211 01:32:33,958 --> 01:32:34,833 　 1212 01:32:34,833 --> 01:32:36,541 只做一件事 1213 01:32:36,666 --> 01:32:37,375 但有些電影我會想 1214 01:32:37,375 --> 01:32:38,208 　 1215 01:32:38,791 --> 01:32:39,916 大體一點 1216 01:32:39,916 --> 01:32:40,416 想所有東西都配合得很好 1217 01:32:40,625 --> 01:32:41,833 　 1218 01:32:42,625 --> 01:32:43,791 　 1219 01:32:43,791 --> 01:32:45,083 　 1220 01:32:45,625 --> 01:32:46,583 這很難 1221 01:32:46,625 --> 01:32:48,291 這並不是純粹 1222 01:32:49,708 --> 01:32:50,708 我一個人的決定 1223 01:32:50,708 --> 01:32:51,000 有時候導演製作 1224 01:32:51,625 --> 01:32:53,666 　 1225 01:32:54,625 --> 01:32:55,583 　 1226 01:32:55,625 --> 01:32:56,666 很想大家都專心做好 1227 01:32:56,666 --> 01:32:57,500 　 1228 01:32:57,625 --> 01:32:59,708 不如你只做衣服 1229 01:32:59,708 --> 01:33:05,416 我就沒有特別想哪一樣 1230 01:33:05,875 --> 01:33:06,041 　 1231 01:33:06,625 --> 01:33:07,541 　 1232 01:33:07,625 --> 01:33:08,125 但我挺喜歡 1233 01:33:08,625 --> 01:33:09,375 　 1234 01:33:09,375 --> 01:33:11,208 經常都做不同的崗位 1235 01:33:12,708 --> 01:33:14,208 像你剛才說的 1236 01:33:15,625 --> 01:33:16,708 有很多把刀 1237 01:33:16,708 --> 01:33:18,083 每把刀都鋒利 1238 01:33:18,083 --> 01:33:18,500 　 1239 01:33:18,625 --> 01:33:20,208 才可以每件件事都做一點 1240 01:33:20,625 --> 01:33:21,833 我們聊了很多關於 1241 01:33:21,833 --> 01:33:22,541 　 1242 01:33:22,625 --> 01:33:23,791 美指或服裝設計 1243 01:33:23,791 --> 01:33:24,250 　 1244 01:33:24,625 --> 01:33:25,208 　 1245 01:33:25,208 --> 01:33:26,166 也想聊聊關於導演 1246 01:33:26,166 --> 01:33:26,875 　 1247 01:33:26,875 --> 01:33:28,083 　 1248 01:33:28,625 --> 01:33:29,083 　 1249 01:33:29,083 --> 01:33:30,500 在2020年時 1250 01:33:30,500 --> 01:33:30,750 　 1251 01:33:31,625 --> 01:33:33,000 Man Sir首次執導的《好好拍電影》 1252 01:33:34,875 --> 01:33:35,958 　 1253 01:33:35,958 --> 01:33:36,500 關於許鞍華導演的紀錄片面世 1254 01:33:36,625 --> 01:33:37,541 　 1255 01:33:37,625 --> 01:33:38,583 　 1256 01:33:38,625 --> 01:33:40,500 這套電影拍了差不多三、四年 1257 01:33:40,625 --> 01:33:41,541 　 1258 01:33:41,625 --> 01:33:43,083 　 1259 01:33:43,083 --> 01:33:43,583 　 1260 01:33:43,625 --> 01:33:44,416 　 1261 01:33:44,625 --> 01:33:45,791 為什麼突然想去導演一套電影 1262 01:33:45,791 --> 01:33:46,208 　 1263 01:33:48,625 --> 01:33:50,208 　 1264 01:33:50,625 --> 01:33:51,000 或者是什麼不同的經驗 1265 01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:53,125 　 1266 01:33:53,625 --> 01:33:55,000 相對美紙和服裝而言 1267 01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:56,208 　 1268 01:33:57,625 --> 01:33:58,291 首先我並不是因為 1269 01:33:58,625 --> 01:33:59,458 　 1270 01:33:59,625 --> 01:34:00,750 　 1271 01:34:00,750 --> 01:34:01,583 　 1272 01:34:02,625 --> 01:34:03,958 做了美指那麼久 1273 01:34:03,958 --> 01:34:04,333 　 1274 01:34:04,625 --> 01:34:05,125 不如我試試做導演 1275 01:34:05,625 --> 01:34:06,625 　 1276 01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:07,208 　 1277 01:34:07,625 --> 01:34:09,625 不如拍紀錄片 1278 01:34:09,625 --> 01:34:11,416 不是這樣的 1279 01:34:11,625 --> 01:34:11,791 　 1280 01:34:13,250 --> 01:34:13,666 我和許導演都合作了很多年 1281 01:34:13,958 --> 01:34:15,333 　 1282 01:34:15,333 --> 01:34:16,000 　 1283 01:34:16,208 --> 01:34:16,958 第一次應該是2002年的《男人四十》 1284 01:34:16,958 --> 01:34:17,541 　 1285 01:34:17,625 --> 01:34:18,875 　 1286 01:34:20,625 --> 01:34:21,208 　 1287 01:34:23,625 --> 01:34:24,125 如果我沒有記錯 1288 01:34:24,125 --> 01:34:25,208 或者是2004年 1289 01:34:28,458 --> 01:34:29,208 是很長的一段時間 1290 01:34:29,625 --> 01:34:30,500 當然我很小時候就已經 1291 01:34:30,500 --> 01:34:31,625 很喜歡許導演的電影 1292 01:34:33,625 --> 01:34:33,958 她的《投奔怒海》、《胡越的故事》 1293 01:34:34,625 --> 01:34:35,375 　 1294 01:34:35,625 --> 01:34:36,375 　 1295 01:34:36,625 --> 01:34:36,958 　 1296 01:34:37,625 --> 01:34:38,541 她是我的偶像 1297 01:34:38,625 --> 01:34:39,333 　 1298 01:34:39,625 --> 01:34:39,958 　 1299 01:34:40,625 --> 01:34:41,333 後來很開心有機會跟她合作 1300 01:34:41,625 --> 01:34:42,666 　 1301 01:34:42,666 --> 01:34:44,666 而她是一個很沒有架子 1302 01:34:44,666 --> 01:34:45,166 　 1303 01:34:45,625 --> 01:34:46,541 　 1304 01:34:46,541 --> 01:34:48,500 和很投入電影 1305 01:34:48,500 --> 01:34:50,916 　 1306 01:34:50,916 --> 01:34:53,291 很令人敬佩的導演 1307 01:34:53,625 --> 01:34:54,125 　 1308 01:34:54,625 --> 01:34:55,791 我不敢說 1309 01:34:55,791 --> 01:34:56,458 在她身上學到很多東西 1310 01:34:56,458 --> 01:34:57,166 　 1311 01:34:57,166 --> 01:34:57,500 但是一個很開心的合作過程 1312 01:34:57,500 --> 01:34:59,208 　 1313 01:34:59,208 --> 01:34:59,958 　 1314 01:34:59,958 --> 01:35:02,083 我當然很欣賞導演的為人 1315 01:35:02,083 --> 01:35:03,458 　 1316 01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:04,708 其實如果我想拍她的紀錄片 1317 01:35:04,708 --> 01:35:05,791 　 1318 01:35:05,791 --> 01:35:06,958 　 1319 01:35:06,958 --> 01:35:07,791 　 1320 01:35:07,791 --> 01:35:08,375 和她做《黃金時代》時 1321 01:35:08,625 --> 01:35:09,583 　 1322 01:35:09,625 --> 01:35:11,125 我已經想拍 1323 01:35:12,250 --> 01:35:13,041 因為看到她對工作的投入 1324 01:35:14,833 --> 01:35:16,000 對劇本、對演員 1325 01:35:17,041 --> 01:35:18,416 對想做好一件事的那種態度 1326 01:35:19,125 --> 01:35:20,041 我很想記錄下來 1327 01:35:20,041 --> 01:35:21,041 但當時很多東西都無法配合 1328 01:35:21,625 --> 01:35:23,041 　 1329 01:35:23,041 --> 01:35:23,375 　 1330 01:35:23,625 --> 01:35:24,291 　 1331 01:35:24,625 --> 01:35:25,916 器材沒那麼普及化 1332 01:35:26,791 --> 01:35:28,500 到了2016年 1333 01:35:28,500 --> 01:35:28,916 我拍《明月幾時有》時 1334 01:35:29,625 --> 01:35:30,500 　 1335 01:35:30,625 --> 01:35:32,250 那幾年突然出了4K的相機 1336 01:35:32,250 --> 01:35:32,875 　 1337 01:35:33,625 --> 01:35:35,166 　 1338 01:35:35,166 --> 01:35:35,666 　 1339 01:35:35,666 --> 01:35:36,250 就像這些都可以拍到 1340 01:35:36,625 --> 01:35:38,583 　 1341 01:35:38,625 --> 01:35:41,041 某一個標準的畫質 1342 01:35:41,875 --> 01:35:41,916 　 1343 01:35:42,625 --> 01:35:43,333 　 1344 01:35:43,333 --> 01:35:45,333 我拿一部相機去現場 1345 01:35:46,625 --> 01:35:47,958 一邊做事一邊拍攝 1346 01:35:47,958 --> 01:35:48,708 　 1347 01:35:49,166 --> 01:35:49,500 有時候我設好相機 1348 01:35:49,625 --> 01:35:50,500 　 1349 01:35:50,500 --> 01:35:51,250 開了機地跟她聊天 1350 01:35:51,250 --> 01:35:51,708 　 1351 01:35:51,708 --> 01:35:52,750 她又不知道 1352 01:35:52,750 --> 01:35:53,458 　 1353 01:35:54,625 --> 01:35:55,125 　 1354 01:35:56,625 --> 01:35:57,416 科技普及令我 1355 01:35:57,625 --> 01:35:59,291 　 1356 01:35:59,291 --> 01:35:59,916 　 1357 01:35:59,916 --> 01:36:02,416 又可以考慮去做這件事 1358 01:36:02,625 --> 01:36:03,416 　 1359 01:36:03,625 --> 01:36:04,375 我剛才說過《黃金時代》時 1360 01:36:04,625 --> 01:36:05,250 　 1361 01:36:05,250 --> 01:36:06,083 有很多很珍貴的時刻 1362 01:36:06,625 --> 01:36:07,583 　 1363 01:36:07,625 --> 01:36:08,791 我們由最冷的 1364 01:36:08,791 --> 01:36:09,625 　 1365 01:36:10,625 --> 01:36:11,916 　 1366 01:36:11,916 --> 01:36:13,458 　 1367 01:36:13,458 --> 01:36:14,583 哈爾濱零下30幾度 1368 01:36:14,583 --> 01:36:15,541 　 1369 01:36:15,625 --> 01:36:17,458 回到香港上海最熱的30幾度 1370 01:36:17,458 --> 01:36:18,708 　 1371 01:36:18,708 --> 01:36:19,583 　 1372 01:36:19,583 --> 01:36:20,333 　 1373 01:36:20,791 --> 01:36:21,625 由中國最北的北方拍到回來南方 1374 01:36:21,875 --> 01:36:23,458 　 1375 01:36:23,458 --> 01:36:24,625 　 1376 01:36:24,625 --> 01:36:25,625 經歷了很多地方 1377 01:36:25,625 --> 01:36:26,583 　 1378 01:36:26,583 --> 01:36:27,583 跨越了很多時間 1379 01:36:27,583 --> 01:36:28,416 　 1380 01:36:28,625 --> 01:36:30,041 有很多很珍貴的瞬間 1381 01:36:30,041 --> 01:36:31,500 　 1382 01:36:31,500 --> 01:36:32,541 　 1383 01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:33,208 但就因為器材或技術 1384 01:36:33,625 --> 01:36:34,708 　 1385 01:36:35,625 --> 01:36:36,583 　 1386 01:36:36,625 --> 01:36:37,458 　 1387 01:36:37,625 --> 01:36:39,333 不容許我做這件事 1388 01:36:39,333 --> 01:36:40,916 　 1389 01:36:40,958 --> 01:36:42,083 去到2016年 1390 01:36:42,083 --> 01:36:43,750 　 1391 01:36:45,375 --> 01:36:46,625 《明月幾時有》的時候 1392 01:36:46,625 --> 01:36:46,875 　 1393 01:36:47,625 --> 01:36:47,708 　 1394 01:36:48,625 --> 01:36:49,750 這些東西可以配合到 1395 01:36:49,750 --> 01:36:50,875 是一個適合的時間 1396 01:36:50,875 --> 01:36:51,875 　 1397 01:36:51,875 --> 01:36:52,166 不如就做吧 1398 01:36:52,625 --> 01:36:53,166 　 1399 01:36:53,625 --> 01:36:54,333 就開始想將 1400 01:36:54,625 --> 01:36:56,083 　 1401 01:36:56,083 --> 01:36:56,416 　 1402 01:36:56,625 --> 01:36:57,708 許導演的事情記錄下來 1403 01:36:57,708 --> 01:36:57,916 但並沒有想做長片或紀錄片 1404 01:36:57,916 --> 01:36:59,250 　 1405 01:36:59,625 --> 01:37:00,625 　 1406 01:37:01,625 --> 01:37:02,333 　 1407 01:37:02,625 --> 01:37:03,041 　 1408 01:37:03,625 --> 01:37:03,833 但就是想記錄一些她的事情 1409 01:37:03,833 --> 01:37:04,541 　 1410 01:37:05,625 --> 01:37:05,916 之後有很多素材時 1411 01:37:06,625 --> 01:37:07,833 　 1412 01:37:07,833 --> 01:37:08,666 　 1413 01:37:08,666 --> 01:37:10,125 就開始真的要想 1414 01:37:10,125 --> 01:37:11,666 要怎麼去說一個故事 1415 01:37:11,666 --> 01:37:12,583 　 1416 01:37:12,625 --> 01:37:13,916 雖然是一個紀錄片 1417 01:37:13,916 --> 01:37:14,208 但你想表達甚麼 1418 01:37:14,625 --> 01:37:15,500 　 1419 01:37:15,625 --> 01:37:16,500 　 1420 01:37:16,500 --> 01:37:17,166 可以有很多不同的角度 1421 01:37:17,166 --> 01:37:18,750 　 1422 01:37:18,750 --> 01:37:19,458 那才慢慢去想 1423 01:37:19,625 --> 01:37:21,458 　 1424 01:37:21,625 --> 01:37:21,833 　 1425 01:37:21,833 --> 01:37:22,916 看很多許導演的作品 1426 01:37:23,625 --> 01:37:24,791 　 1427 01:37:24,791 --> 01:37:25,541 我剛才說她對我影響我很深 1428 01:37:25,625 --> 01:37:27,083 　 1429 01:37:27,625 --> 01:37:28,416 我很喜歡她的電影 1430 01:37:28,625 --> 01:37:29,708 我喜歡她電影裡的甚麼呢 1431 01:37:29,708 --> 01:37:30,791 　 1432 01:37:31,833 --> 01:37:33,166 就問自己想透過這套電影說些甚麼呢 1433 01:37:34,083 --> 01:37:34,708 　 1434 01:37:34,708 --> 01:37:35,791 　 1435 01:37:35,791 --> 01:37:37,208 　 1436 01:37:37,208 --> 01:37:38,666 透過許導演的故事說些甚麼呢 1437 01:37:38,666 --> 01:37:39,458 　 1438 01:37:39,625 --> 01:37:40,333 最後整個紀錄片分了三個部分 1439 01:37:40,625 --> 01:37:41,583 　 1440 01:37:41,625 --> 01:37:43,333 　 1441 01:37:43,625 --> 01:37:44,333 第一是說許導演的成長 1442 01:37:44,625 --> 01:37:44,833 　 1443 01:37:45,625 --> 01:37:46,375 　 1444 01:37:46,625 --> 01:37:47,833 她作為一個香港人 1445 01:37:48,291 --> 01:37:49,208 作為一個異鄉人來到香港 1446 01:37:49,208 --> 01:37:49,958 　 1447 01:37:50,625 --> 01:37:52,458 　 1448 01:37:52,625 --> 01:37:54,333 如果大家有看電影 1449 01:37:54,625 --> 01:37:55,791 她是在鞍山出生 1450 01:37:56,625 --> 01:37:58,291 　 1451 01:37:58,625 --> 01:38:00,708 　 1452 01:38:00,708 --> 01:38:02,416 她不是土生土長的香港人 1453 01:38:02,625 --> 01:38:03,166 她媽媽是日本人 1454 01:38:03,166 --> 01:38:04,041 　 1455 01:38:04,750 --> 01:38:05,791 她是一個異鄉客 1456 01:38:05,791 --> 01:38:06,750 　 1457 01:38:06,750 --> 01:38:08,541 在香港成長的故事 1458 01:38:08,541 --> 01:38:11,958 　 1459 01:38:11,958 --> 01:38:12,583 　 1460 01:38:12,583 --> 01:38:13,875 她也是跟香港電影一起成長 1461 01:38:14,625 --> 01:38:16,583 　 1462 01:38:16,583 --> 01:38:17,791 她是新浪潮導演中 1463 01:38:18,041 --> 01:38:18,708 一個那麼有代表性的人 1464 01:38:18,708 --> 01:38:19,916 　 1465 01:38:20,875 --> 01:38:22,000 也都看到整個香港電影的轉變 1466 01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:24,250 　 1467 01:38:25,208 --> 01:38:26,666 一個香港人加一個工業的成長和轉變 1468 01:38:26,666 --> 01:38:28,500 　 1469 01:38:28,625 --> 01:38:29,375 　 1470 01:38:29,625 --> 01:38:31,041 就看到整個香港的成長和改變 1471 01:38:31,750 --> 01:38:32,458 　 1472 01:38:32,625 --> 01:38:34,416 　 1473 01:38:34,625 --> 01:38:36,458 基本上是這三部分 1474 01:38:36,666 --> 01:38:38,541 去說許導演和一個香港人的故事 1475 01:38:38,541 --> 01:38:40,583 　 1476 01:38:41,625 --> 01:38:42,708 不知道大家有沒有看過《好好拍電影》 1477 01:38:42,708 --> 01:38:43,291 　 1478 01:38:43,625 --> 01:38:44,500 　 1479 01:38:44,500 --> 01:38:45,000 真的很好看 1480 01:38:45,625 --> 01:38:46,208 　 1481 01:38:46,625 --> 01:38:47,375 我看後短看到哭了 1482 01:38:47,625 --> 01:38:48,625 　 1483 01:38:48,625 --> 01:38:49,166 因為整套電影 1484 01:38:50,625 --> 01:38:51,791 　 1485 01:38:51,791 --> 01:38:52,458 怎麼說才好呢 1486 01:38:52,458 --> 01:38:53,875 它的結尾是很有希望的 1487 01:38:53,875 --> 01:38:55,416 　 1488 01:38:55,625 --> 01:38:56,958 因為你將他所有得獎的片段 1489 01:38:56,958 --> 01:38:58,000 　 1490 01:38:58,000 --> 01:38:59,625 放在最後的時候是一個 1491 01:38:59,625 --> 01:39:00,583 　 1492 01:39:00,625 --> 01:39:03,333 無論她經過這麼多年之後 1493 01:39:03,333 --> 01:39:04,375 到了那個時刻 1494 01:39:04,375 --> 01:39:04,625 　 1495 01:39:04,625 --> 01:39:05,250 還是很有希望的一件事 1496 01:39:05,250 --> 01:39:07,000 　 1497 01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:07,416 還有真的因為她 1498 01:39:07,625 --> 01:39:09,166 　 1499 01:39:09,625 --> 01:39:11,625 2019年在威尼斯獲獎 1500 01:39:11,625 --> 01:39:13,333 　 1501 01:39:13,333 --> 01:39:14,333 在台上講的那番話 1502 01:39:14,625 --> 01:39:15,833 　 1503 01:39:16,625 --> 01:39:18,000 對香港人是一個很大的鼓舞 1504 01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:19,166 　 1505 01:39:19,625 --> 01:39:21,500 還有在把那些獲獎片段放在一起之前 1506 01:39:21,625 --> 01:39:23,125 　 1507 01:39:23,125 --> 01:39:23,708 　 1508 01:39:23,708 --> 01:39:25,500 她也有說過20年前 1509 01:39:26,625 --> 01:39:27,666 　 1510 01:39:28,625 --> 01:39:29,583 她有另一套紀錄片叫《去日虎多》 1511 01:39:29,625 --> 01:39:30,375 　 1512 01:39:30,375 --> 01:39:31,250 　 1513 01:39:31,625 --> 01:39:33,166 也很好看的 1514 01:39:33,625 --> 01:39:35,708 也是講她的成長和香港的一些改變 1515 01:39:35,708 --> 01:39:36,833 　 1516 01:39:37,458 --> 01:39:38,583 　 1517 01:39:38,625 --> 01:39:39,416 如果有機會 1518 01:39:39,625 --> 01:39:40,375 大家可能在網上找得到 1519 01:39:40,625 --> 01:39:41,333 　 1520 01:39:42,375 --> 01:39:43,625 她有講過20年前 1521 01:39:43,625 --> 01:39:44,708 　 1522 01:39:44,708 --> 01:39:46,083 　 1523 01:39:46,083 --> 01:39:47,666 正正就是97的時候 1524 01:39:47,666 --> 01:39:49,000 很多人走和留 1525 01:39:49,000 --> 01:39:49,583 　 1526 01:39:49,625 --> 01:39:51,041 她決定留下來 1527 01:39:51,041 --> 01:39:52,458 她在紀錄片裡說20年之後 1528 01:39:52,625 --> 01:39:53,458 　 1529 01:39:53,458 --> 01:39:54,125 「我看回自己，我究竟有什麼改變」 1530 01:39:54,125 --> 01:39:54,916 　 1531 01:39:54,916 --> 01:39:56,875 　 1532 01:39:57,666 --> 01:39:59,666 她決定留下來 1533 01:39:59,666 --> 01:40:01,125 在她最熟悉的崗位 1534 01:40:01,625 --> 01:40:03,000 　 1535 01:40:03,000 --> 01:40:04,833 做她最擅長的事情 1536 01:40:04,833 --> 01:40:05,500 就是拍戲 1537 01:40:05,625 --> 01:40:06,625 拍很多跟香港有關的電影 1538 01:40:06,625 --> 01:40:07,750 　 1539 01:40:07,750 --> 01:40:08,666 這也是相當正義和積極的想法 1540 01:40:08,666 --> 01:40:09,416 　 1541 01:40:09,625 --> 01:40:12,125 　 1542 01:40:13,625 --> 01:40:14,500 　 1543 01:40:16,041 --> 01:40:16,166 　 1544 01:40:16,625 --> 01:40:18,708 我也有看過你的訪問 1545 01:40:18,708 --> 01:40:19,708 你提及在香港 1546 01:40:19,708 --> 01:40:20,583 　 1547 01:40:20,625 --> 01:40:21,416 紀錄片或者導演的作品不多 1548 01:40:21,416 --> 01:40:22,791 　 1549 01:40:22,791 --> 01:40:23,708 　 1550 01:40:23,708 --> 01:40:25,291 你之後會不會再製作紀錄片 1551 01:40:25,625 --> 01:40:28,000 　 1552 01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:28,458 或者再做導演 1553 01:40:28,625 --> 01:40:29,333 　 1554 01:40:29,333 --> 01:40:30,333 　 1555 01:40:30,333 --> 01:40:31,291 拍不一樣的題材呢 1556 01:40:32,625 --> 01:40:32,958 第一，是真的不多 1557 01:40:33,625 --> 01:40:34,750 　 1558 01:40:34,750 --> 01:40:35,208 　 1559 01:40:35,208 --> 01:40:36,250 這也是觸發我想拍 1560 01:40:36,625 --> 01:40:37,750 這個紀錄片的其中一個原因 1561 01:40:37,750 --> 01:40:38,458 　 1562 01:40:38,625 --> 01:40:39,875 　 1563 01:40:39,875 --> 01:40:40,291 　 1564 01:40:40,625 --> 01:40:41,333 如果是香港電影人的紀錄片 1565 01:40:41,625 --> 01:40:43,083 　 1566 01:40:43,625 --> 01:40:44,833 我印象中只有杜琪峰導演 1567 01:40:44,833 --> 01:40:45,750 　 1568 01:40:45,750 --> 01:40:47,333 　 1569 01:40:47,625 --> 01:40:48,208 　 1570 01:40:48,625 --> 01:40:49,041 還有之前另一部 1571 01:40:49,625 --> 01:40:51,000 　 1572 01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:52,208 不是講導演的 1573 01:40:52,208 --> 01:40:53,791 是講電影美術指導 1574 01:40:53,791 --> 01:40:54,625 藝術交往人群的紀錄片 1575 01:40:55,625 --> 01:40:57,250 　 1576 01:40:57,250 --> 01:40:58,625 《水底行走的人》 1577 01:40:58,625 --> 01:40:59,958 也是一部很好看的紀錄片 1578 01:40:59,958 --> 01:41:01,208 　 1579 01:41:01,625 --> 01:41:03,625 但有關電影人的紀錄片 1580 01:41:03,625 --> 01:41:06,791 　 1581 01:41:07,375 --> 01:41:08,166 可能應該有 1582 01:41:08,166 --> 01:41:09,208 但我一時間說不出來 1583 01:41:09,916 --> 01:41:11,000 　 1584 01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:12,666 所以就做了許鞍華的紀錄片 1585 01:41:12,791 --> 01:41:14,125 　 1586 01:41:14,625 --> 01:41:18,458 我有興趣繼續拍紀錄片 1587 01:41:18,458 --> 01:41:19,333 其實我有一個正在拍攝的項目 1588 01:41:19,333 --> 01:41:20,416 　 1589 01:41:20,416 --> 01:41:22,666 講幾個香港的行為藝術家 1590 01:41:22,666 --> 01:41:23,250 　 1591 01:41:27,625 --> 01:41:28,750 他們有自己的作品 1592 01:41:29,625 --> 01:41:33,458 　 1593 01:41:33,458 --> 01:41:34,041 但在呈現作品的時候 1594 01:41:34,041 --> 01:41:36,125 　 1595 01:41:36,125 --> 01:41:37,875 他們都有一個裝扮 1596 01:41:37,875 --> 01:41:40,125 　 1597 01:41:40,125 --> 01:41:41,416 　 1598 01:41:43,416 --> 01:41:44,958 在外表上好像用另一個身份 1599 01:41:44,958 --> 01:41:47,041 去跟觀眾有連繫 1600 01:41:47,375 --> 01:41:47,958 　 1601 01:41:47,958 --> 01:41:49,416 其中一個是「蛙王」 1602 01:41:49,416 --> 01:41:50,791 不知大家有沒有聽過 1603 01:41:51,166 --> 01:41:52,541 　 1604 01:41:52,625 --> 01:41:55,208 可以有機會上網搜尋 1605 01:41:55,208 --> 01:41:56,916 　 1606 01:41:57,625 --> 01:41:59,583 「蛙王」郭孟浩是 1607 01:41:59,625 --> 01:42:01,041 第一代香港來紐約發展的前衛藝術家 1608 01:42:01,625 --> 01:42:02,666 　 1609 01:42:02,666 --> 01:42:04,708 　 1610 01:42:04,708 --> 01:42:06,166 　 1611 01:42:07,625 --> 01:42:09,125 他為什麼叫「蛙王」呢 1612 01:42:09,125 --> 01:42:09,833 他有一段時間做很多青蛙眼鏡 1613 01:42:09,833 --> 01:42:11,625 　 1614 01:42:11,625 --> 01:42:13,666 連David Bowie都有戴過 1615 01:42:13,666 --> 01:42:15,583 他常叫人戴著他畫的眼鏡 1616 01:42:17,125 --> 01:42:19,708 然後拍一張照片 1617 01:42:20,625 --> 01:42:22,166 他的裝扮我不知怎麼形容 1618 01:42:25,208 --> 01:42:26,208 有點像日本的草間彌生 1619 01:42:30,625 --> 01:42:32,916 他會將自己打扮成一個外星人 1620 01:42:38,833 --> 01:42:39,583 你認不出他來 1621 01:42:39,583 --> 01:42:41,250 但他已經80歲了 1622 01:42:41,250 --> 01:42:42,083 他現在還保持著每天畫畫 1623 01:42:44,625 --> 01:42:46,041 每次跟觀眾見面都會裝扮成他人 1624 01:42:50,625 --> 01:42:52,666 是一個很有趣的人 1625 01:42:52,666 --> 01:42:53,750 因為他在紐約發跡 1626 01:42:56,250 --> 01:42:57,958 這次來我亦都聯絡了 1627 01:42:57,958 --> 01:42:58,916 當年跟他在東區搞畫廊 1628 01:43:03,875 --> 01:43:04,750 做一些行為藝術的藝術家 1629 01:43:08,958 --> 01:43:11,083 來說他們的故事 1630 01:43:11,083 --> 01:43:12,166 所以兩天後我也會拍 1631 01:43:13,208 --> 01:43:14,583 一個小小的紀錄片 1632 01:43:16,625 --> 01:43:17,416 另外一個人叫做可樂 1633 01:43:21,625 --> 01:43:22,666 他說他是外星人 1634 01:43:24,625 --> 01:43:25,166 他每次出現都穿著全身銀色的衣服 1635 01:43:28,625 --> 01:43:29,833 化了銀色妝去圍村吃盤菜 1636 01:43:34,708 --> 01:43:40,083 他利用這個身份跟社會 1637 01:43:41,500 --> 01:43:41,958 或者跟南亞裔人接觸 1638 01:43:44,625 --> 01:43:45,125 是一些很有趣的藝術家 1639 01:43:49,625 --> 01:43:50,416 為什麼這些人要透過另一個身份 1640 01:43:51,000 --> 01:43:52,250 才可以找到自己呢 1641 01:43:53,750 --> 01:43:54,291 這也是其中一個 1642 01:43:55,750 --> 01:43:57,541 紀錄片想問的問題 1643 01:43:58,625 --> 01:43:59,250 聽起來很有趣 1644 01:43:59,750 --> 01:44:01,458 我們很期待你的新作 1645 01:44:02,625 --> 01:44:03,125 我們可以聊遠一點點 1646 01:44:05,625 --> 01:44:06,791 我作為一個觀眾 1647 01:44:06,791 --> 01:44:07,333 我自己很喜歡香港電影 1648 01:44:09,625 --> 01:44:10,458 近年香港電影的題材多元化了很多 1649 01:44:14,625 --> 01:44:15,250 除了以前比較擅長的警匪片、懸疑片外 1650 01:44:16,208 --> 01:44:16,916 　 1651 01:44:16,916 --> 01:44:18,125 　 1652 01:44:18,625 --> 01:44:19,166 這幾年多了很多 1653 01:44:19,875 --> 01:44:20,333 　 1654 01:44:21,625 --> 01:44:21,833 所謂描述社會被忽略的議題 1655 01:44:21,833 --> 01:44:22,833 　 1656 01:44:23,625 --> 01:44:24,666 　 1657 01:44:24,666 --> 01:44:25,041 譬如你的作品《麥路人》 1658 01:44:25,041 --> 01:44:26,000 　 1659 01:44:26,000 --> 01:44:27,291 　 1660 01:44:27,625 --> 01:44:28,541 又或者是其他的電影 1661 01:44:28,625 --> 01:44:29,666 　 1662 01:44:29,666 --> 01:44:30,708 《淪落人》、《窄路微塵》、《濁水漂流》等等 1663 01:44:30,708 --> 01:44:31,875 　 1664 01:44:31,875 --> 01:44:32,916 　 1665 01:44:33,625 --> 01:44:35,291 都是很好的電影 1666 01:44:35,625 --> 01:44:37,083 作為一個圈內人 1667 01:44:37,625 --> 01:44:38,250 你是怎樣看待這個轉變 1668 01:44:38,250 --> 01:44:39,333 還有《流水落花》 1669 01:44:39,625 --> 01:44:46,791 或者對你來說有什麼新的挑戰 1670 01:44:46,791 --> 01:44:48,666 　 1671 01:44:48,666 --> 01:44:49,541 你講得很好 1672 01:44:49,541 --> 01:44:50,541 　 1673 01:44:50,541 --> 01:44:52,958 多了很多多元化的題材 1674 01:44:52,958 --> 01:44:54,500 的而且確這些題材以前可能比較少人涉及 1675 01:44:54,500 --> 01:44:56,208 　 1676 01:44:57,416 --> 01:44:58,208 　 1677 01:44:58,208 --> 01:44:59,000 但我覺得可能是個大勢所催 1678 01:44:59,000 --> 01:44:59,791 　 1679 01:44:59,791 --> 01:45:01,583 　 1680 01:45:01,583 --> 01:45:02,458 因為以前比較是主流電影 1681 01:45:02,458 --> 01:45:04,208 　 1682 01:45:04,208 --> 01:45:06,583 　 1683 01:45:06,583 --> 01:45:11,458 和商業電影掛帥的市場 1684 01:45:11,458 --> 01:45:12,750 老闆可能會覺得這些電影不賣座 1685 01:45:12,750 --> 01:45:15,833 不是很會贊成拍這些電影 1686 01:45:15,833 --> 01:45:18,250 　 1687 01:45:18,250 --> 01:45:18,333 　 1688 01:45:18,625 --> 01:45:20,083 作為投資者都會考慮 1689 01:45:20,083 --> 01:45:21,416 　 1690 01:45:22,958 --> 01:45:23,250 究竟這部電影賣不賣座 1691 01:45:23,250 --> 01:45:23,833 　 1692 01:45:23,833 --> 01:45:24,833 　 1693 01:45:25,083 --> 01:45:27,500 在以前的市場來說當然是商業片掛帥 1694 01:45:27,500 --> 01:45:28,250 　 1695 01:45:28,250 --> 01:45:30,333 　 1696 01:45:30,333 --> 01:45:31,583 像你剛才說的警匪片、懸疑片等 1697 01:45:31,583 --> 01:45:32,208 　 1698 01:45:32,208 --> 01:45:33,583 　 1699 01:45:33,583 --> 01:45:39,666 但是2019年後 1700 01:45:39,666 --> 01:45:40,458 因為整個市場的生態環境很不同 1701 01:45:40,458 --> 01:45:43,250 　 1702 01:45:43,250 --> 01:45:44,000 　 1703 01:45:44,000 --> 01:45:44,416 　 1704 01:45:44,416 --> 01:45:44,833 第一因為疫情 1705 01:45:44,833 --> 01:45:45,625 　 1706 01:45:45,625 --> 01:45:46,625 第二因為媒體的轉變很大 1707 01:45:46,625 --> 01:45:47,166 　 1708 01:45:47,166 --> 01:45:48,291 　 1709 01:45:48,291 --> 01:45:51,166 　 1710 01:45:51,500 --> 01:45:52,458 現在比較難叫人到戲院看電影 1711 01:45:52,458 --> 01:45:54,166 　 1712 01:45:54,166 --> 01:45:55,166 　 1713 01:45:55,166 --> 01:45:57,125 因為多了Netflix、網片 1714 01:45:58,500 --> 01:45:59,333 　 1715 01:45:59,333 --> 01:46:00,583 娛樂並非只單靠電影 1716 01:46:00,583 --> 01:46:05,708 票房不好也影響了投資的投放 1717 01:46:05,708 --> 01:46:08,208 　 1718 01:46:08,208 --> 01:46:09,750 　 1719 01:46:09,750 --> 01:46:11,833 　 1720 01:46:11,833 --> 01:46:15,916 為什麼會多了很多社會議題 1721 01:46:15,916 --> 01:46:16,458 　 1722 01:46:16,458 --> 01:46:17,708 　 1723 01:46:17,708 --> 01:46:18,750 其中一個最大原因 1724 01:46:18,750 --> 01:46:20,125 當然有人想說這些故事 1725 01:46:20,125 --> 01:46:20,625 　 1726 01:46:20,625 --> 01:46:21,291 第二是因為便宜 1727 01:46:21,291 --> 01:46:21,958 　 1728 01:46:23,125 --> 01:46:24,208 比較便宜就可以拍這些戲 1729 01:46:24,208 --> 01:46:25,541 　 1730 01:46:25,541 --> 01:46:26,583 　 1731 01:46:26,583 --> 01:46:28,583 投資人說我只有數百萬 1732 01:46:28,583 --> 01:46:30,208 　 1733 01:46:30,208 --> 01:46:31,500 　 1734 01:46:31,500 --> 01:46:31,958 　 1735 01:46:31,958 --> 01:46:33,625 你沒辦法在這個預算內 1736 01:46:35,208 --> 01:46:35,625 去想以前的所謂的商業片元素 1737 01:46:35,625 --> 01:46:37,208 　 1738 01:46:37,208 --> 01:46:39,000 　 1739 01:46:39,000 --> 01:46:40,791 即是警匪片或動作片 1740 01:46:40,791 --> 01:46:41,708 　 1741 01:46:41,708 --> 01:46:43,166 因為你拍多一組都不行 1742 01:46:43,166 --> 01:46:43,541 　 1743 01:46:43,625 --> 01:46:45,375 拍多一組都要花數十萬 1744 01:46:45,375 --> 01:46:46,791 　 1745 01:46:47,125 --> 01:46:48,000 你沒辦法想動作片飛車 1746 01:46:48,000 --> 01:46:49,125 　 1747 01:46:49,125 --> 01:46:49,708 　 1748 01:46:49,708 --> 01:46:50,625 　 1749 01:46:50,625 --> 01:46:53,208 你唯有想一些 1750 01:46:53,666 --> 01:46:55,291 資源上不需要那麼貴的戲 1751 01:46:55,291 --> 01:46:55,583 　 1752 01:46:55,625 --> 01:47:00,625 當然很多人仍很想去講這些議題的故事 1753 01:47:01,083 --> 01:47:01,708 　 1754 01:47:01,708 --> 01:47:03,083 　 1755 01:47:03,083 --> 01:47:04,708 　 1756 01:47:04,708 --> 01:47:05,333 所以環境也造就了這些新導演 1757 01:47:05,333 --> 01:47:07,333 　 1758 01:47:07,500 --> 01:47:09,333 　 1759 01:47:09,333 --> 01:47:11,208 或令這些導演去想很多較寫實 1760 01:47:11,208 --> 01:47:12,500 　 1761 01:47:12,500 --> 01:47:13,833 　 1762 01:47:13,833 --> 01:47:14,791 　 1763 01:47:15,625 --> 01:47:17,708 或者較民生議題的電影 1764 01:47:17,708 --> 01:47:20,083 　 1765 01:47:20,083 --> 01:47:21,875 　 1766 01:47:21,875 --> 01:47:23,458 我覺得好好 1767 01:47:23,458 --> 01:47:26,208 　 1768 01:47:26,208 --> 01:47:27,625 近年社會多了講身分認同 1769 01:47:27,625 --> 01:47:29,416 　 1770 01:47:29,625 --> 01:47:30,708 　 1771 01:47:30,708 --> 01:47:31,541 即是你本身是一個什麼人 1772 01:47:31,625 --> 01:47:32,666 　 1773 01:47:32,666 --> 01:47:33,250 或者本土文化是怎樣 1774 01:47:33,625 --> 01:47:34,750 　 1775 01:47:34,750 --> 01:47:36,458 我自己很喜歡看這些戲 1776 01:47:36,625 --> 01:47:38,208 　 1777 01:47:38,625 --> 01:47:39,958 不知道大家怎樣 1778 01:47:39,958 --> 01:47:40,500 　 1779 01:47:41,625 --> 01:47:42,333 很欣賞有這些電影的出現 1780 01:47:42,333 --> 01:47:43,916 　 1781 01:47:43,916 --> 01:47:44,541 　 1782 01:47:45,625 --> 01:47:46,541 今年也有很多 1783 01:47:46,541 --> 01:47:47,708 接下來幾部 1784 01:47:47,708 --> 01:47:48,500 因為我來紐約之前 1785 01:47:48,500 --> 01:47:49,791 　 1786 01:47:49,791 --> 01:47:51,541 上個月也剛剛有幾部新的電影 1787 01:47:51,625 --> 01:47:52,583 剛好也有幾套電影入圍金馬獎 1788 01:47:52,625 --> 01:47:54,750 　 1789 01:47:54,750 --> 01:47:56,625 例如《白日之下》、《年少日記》等等 1790 01:47:56,625 --> 01:47:58,916 　 1791 01:47:58,916 --> 01:48:00,166 都是這些社會議題 1792 01:48:00,166 --> 01:48:01,375 　 1793 01:48:01,625 --> 01:48:03,000 但是同時我看了 1794 01:48:04,750 --> 01:48:06,000 都覺得水準很高 1795 01:48:06,000 --> 01:48:07,958 不是說低預算、便宜 1796 01:48:07,958 --> 01:48:09,458 　 1797 01:48:09,458 --> 01:48:10,000 　 1798 01:48:10,000 --> 01:48:11,291 就拍不到好電影 1799 01:48:11,291 --> 01:48:11,541 　 1800 01:48:11,625 --> 01:48:14,458 　 1801 01:48:14,458 --> 01:48:14,958 我覺得又是其中一個香港電影特色 1802 01:48:14,958 --> 01:48:16,083 　 1803 01:48:16,083 --> 01:48:17,041 　 1804 01:48:17,041 --> 01:48:18,333 在一個很有限的資源 1805 01:48:18,333 --> 01:48:19,791 　 1806 01:48:19,791 --> 01:48:20,500 真的去做到最無限的想像 1807 01:48:21,291 --> 01:48:23,500 　 1808 01:48:23,708 --> 01:48:25,583 這幾套電影成績都很好 1809 01:48:25,625 --> 01:48:28,125 但是開始又有一些聲音說 1810 01:48:28,125 --> 01:48:29,708 　 1811 01:48:29,708 --> 01:48:31,083 會不會太多都是這些 1812 01:48:31,083 --> 01:48:31,833 　 1813 01:48:31,833 --> 01:48:33,541 很沈重或不開心的電影 1814 01:48:33,625 --> 01:48:35,041 　 1815 01:48:35,041 --> 01:48:35,666 可不可以有一些正面積極的 1816 01:48:35,666 --> 01:48:38,166 　 1817 01:48:39,250 --> 01:48:39,750 　 1818 01:48:39,750 --> 01:48:40,708 　 1819 01:48:40,708 --> 01:48:42,125 沒有那麼沉重的電影 1820 01:48:42,125 --> 01:48:43,625 接下來可能有另一浪 1821 01:48:43,625 --> 01:48:45,166 　 1822 01:48:45,166 --> 01:48:46,083 　 1823 01:48:46,083 --> 01:48:47,625 　 1824 01:48:47,625 --> 01:48:48,291 除了這些題材之外 1825 01:48:48,625 --> 01:48:50,250 　 1826 01:48:50,625 --> 01:48:51,708 可能會有另一種其他的片種 1827 01:48:51,708 --> 01:48:53,250 　 1828 01:48:53,625 --> 01:48:54,333 　 1829 01:48:54,625 --> 01:48:55,500 每一次都是一些條件和社會環境 1830 01:48:55,500 --> 01:48:56,333 　 1831 01:48:56,625 --> 01:48:57,708 　 1832 01:48:59,625 --> 01:49:00,333 　 1833 01:49:00,333 --> 01:49:02,250 或大環境改變 1834 01:49:02,625 --> 01:49:03,708 令創作走向不同的方向 1835 01:49:03,708 --> 01:49:04,083 　 1836 01:49:04,708 --> 01:49:06,083 　 1837 01:49:07,625 --> 01:49:09,333 剛才都談論到Netflix或類似的串流平台 1838 01:49:09,625 --> 01:49:10,708 　 1839 01:49:10,708 --> 01:49:11,666 　 1840 01:49:11,666 --> 01:49:13,166 現在都很盛行 1841 01:49:13,625 --> 01:49:14,583 對於圈內人來說 1842 01:49:14,625 --> 01:49:16,291 　 1843 01:49:16,625 --> 01:49:17,541 你覺得他是一件好事還是壞事 1844 01:49:17,625 --> 01:49:18,208 　 1845 01:49:18,208 --> 01:49:19,166 　 1846 01:49:19,625 --> 01:49:20,708 或者要怎樣透過這些串流平台 1847 01:49:21,625 --> 01:49:23,125 　 1848 01:49:23,125 --> 01:49:25,541 將香港電影帶給更大的觀眾 1849 01:49:25,625 --> 01:49:26,708 更加多元的觀眾呢 1850 01:49:27,625 --> 01:49:28,875 　 1851 01:49:30,625 --> 01:49:31,791 對從業員怎樣都是好事的 1852 01:49:34,333 --> 01:49:34,583 因為電影工作的機會少了 1853 01:49:35,625 --> 01:49:36,083 　 1854 01:49:36,625 --> 01:49:38,333 　 1855 01:49:38,333 --> 01:49:39,083 但很多人可以去拍這些網劇 1856 01:49:39,625 --> 01:49:41,041 　 1857 01:49:41,625 --> 01:49:42,708 　 1858 01:49:42,708 --> 01:49:42,916 　 1859 01:49:43,625 --> 01:49:45,416 其實香港沒有Netflix製作 1860 01:49:46,625 --> 01:49:48,458 台灣就有 1861 01:49:48,458 --> 01:49:48,875 Netflix有直接投資台灣的製作 1862 01:49:55,583 --> 01:49:56,041 但是就不知為甚麼好像 1863 01:49:58,666 --> 01:49:59,291 暫時沒有跟香港合作 1864 01:50:03,041 --> 01:50:03,541 或者有我不知道 1865 01:50:04,666 --> 01:50:06,250 但是香港最多網劇就是ViuTV 1866 01:50:07,750 --> 01:50:10,041 近年都有幾部是很有話題性的 1867 01:50:13,000 --> 01:50:13,666 即是迴響都很好的 1868 01:50:15,666 --> 01:50:16,791 都為從業員提供多了工作機會 1869 01:50:22,666 --> 01:50:23,500 一開始還是很電視劇或很網劇 1870 01:50:28,083 --> 01:50:29,333 慢慢慢慢開始 1871 01:50:30,666 --> 01:50:31,416 有些電影是大家覺得水準不錯 1872 01:50:36,666 --> 01:50:37,750 劇情或製作都越來越好 1873 01:50:39,458 --> 01:50:40,166 那我覺得多了就開始有競爭 1874 01:50:43,666 --> 01:50:44,416 就會推動到水準越來越好 1875 01:50:48,666 --> 01:50:48,875 但我知道還是難做 1876 01:50:52,375 --> 01:50:54,208 因為劇的資源很有限 1877 01:51:01,666 --> 01:51:02,500 永遠是在很有限的資源 1878 01:51:03,708 --> 01:51:04,208 去變一些好東西出來 1879 01:51:06,000 --> 01:51:06,750 但有時真的只可以盡量去做 1880 01:51:11,333 --> 01:51:11,541 但不是每次都可以變魔術 1881 01:51:16,666 --> 01:51:17,750 大家有沒有看《爆谷一週》 1882 01:51:18,750 --> 01:51:19,083 谷德昭主持的節目 1883 01:51:20,583 --> 01:51:21,416 他訪問古天樂先生 1884 01:51:23,666 --> 01:51:24,208 他就說香港的電影從業員特別厲害 1885 01:51:30,958 --> 01:51:31,458 他們真的特別可以在 1886 01:51:32,666 --> 01:51:33,333 有限的資源做到無限的想像 1887 01:51:34,916 --> 01:51:36,708 做到無限的迴響 1888 01:51:37,250 --> 01:51:38,000 這真的很厲害 1889 01:51:38,666 --> 01:51:38,791 但其實越來越難 1890 01:51:40,000 --> 01:51:41,250 我聽過一些以前靈活應對的故事 1891 01:51:44,666 --> 01:51:46,291 有一次王晶拍古惑仔電影 1892 01:51:50,666 --> 01:51:51,125 突然間要200個古惑仔在街上槍戰 1893 01:51:56,833 --> 01:51:58,416 問題是在哪裡找200多枝槍 1894 01:52:02,666 --> 01:52:03,041 副導演居然說半小時後就可以拍 1895 01:52:07,666 --> 01:52:08,291 然後就叫特約全走過來 1896 01:52:12,666 --> 01:52:13,500 叫道具組拿一桶油來 1897 01:52:14,666 --> 01:52:15,375 把手塗黑裝是槍 1898 01:52:19,666 --> 01:52:20,500 說晚上拍看不出來 1899 01:52:21,708 --> 01:52:22,958 這樣也可以 1900 01:52:22,958 --> 01:52:26,333 但是現在拍電影高清 1901 01:52:28,666 --> 01:52:29,208 拍得很清楚就不行了 1902 01:52:34,666 --> 01:52:35,958 但現在可能有淘寶 1903 01:52:35,958 --> 01:52:36,708 可能可以很快的淘寶 1904 01:52:38,666 --> 01:52:40,291 永遠都用很土炮的方法去解決問題 1905 01:52:43,125 --> 01:52:43,666 但我們都想做好一點 1906 01:52:45,666 --> 01:52:46,333 但是真的需要有資源和時間 1907 01:52:52,666 --> 01:52:54,458 我們在報名的時候 1908 01:52:56,666 --> 01:52:57,666 有現場的觀眾提問 1909 01:52:58,666 --> 01:53:00,375 可以把時間交給現場的觀眾 1910 01:53:03,666 --> 01:53:04,458 剛才講得很好 1911 01:53:05,666 --> 01:53:07,250 講到資源這個問題 1912 01:53:07,250 --> 01:53:08,375 Kayser問了一個關於香港資源的問題 1913 01:53:11,666 --> 01:53:12,541 會不會有興趣自己問Man Sir 1914 01:53:14,708 --> 01:53:15,458 其實都有點回答了 1915 01:53:18,666 --> 01:53:20,291 我的問題是 1916 01:53:22,583 --> 01:53:22,750 當先在本土製作越來越少 1917 01:53:27,083 --> 01:53:27,625 而且資金越來越低 1918 01:53:30,666 --> 01:53:30,833 究竟有什麼辦法可以做得更加好 1919 01:53:36,916 --> 01:53:37,333 因為一定要向前走 1920 01:53:40,250 --> 01:53:40,916 你不可能停留在一個狀態裡面 1921 01:53:45,666 --> 01:53:47,666 這個問題都是不單止電影行業 1922 01:53:52,125 --> 01:53:52,958 每一行都不停面對 1923 01:53:54,875 --> 01:53:56,666 這個大環境又開始很困難 1924 01:53:57,958 --> 01:53:58,791 現在這幾個月大家在思考是否要打仗 1925 01:54:05,666 --> 01:54:06,333 如果要打仗還想要拍電影 1926 01:54:08,666 --> 01:54:09,791 還想老闆是否出資拍電影 1927 01:54:11,375 --> 01:54:15,416 有很多大的事情要思考 1928 01:54:16,666 --> 01:54:17,375 回到這個問題 1929 01:54:17,666 --> 01:54:17,750 其實真的很不一樣 1930 01:54:26,666 --> 01:54:27,625 我自己今年過完農曆年 1931 01:54:29,666 --> 01:54:31,000 到現在我還沒拍過戲 1932 01:54:31,666 --> 01:54:32,208 我入行這麼久第一年這樣 1933 01:54:35,666 --> 01:54:37,583 雖然有其他事情在做 1934 01:54:38,666 --> 01:54:40,250 因為很多低預算的電影開拍 1935 01:54:42,666 --> 01:54:43,083 很多較年青的或我的同事都很忙 1936 01:54:49,958 --> 01:54:51,208 是大家會覺得不要找我們這些人 1937 01:54:53,625 --> 01:54:55,291 你介紹一個人給我就算了 1938 01:54:58,666 --> 01:54:59,000 但其實我也有做 1939 01:55:00,208 --> 01:55:01,041 《流水落花》、《過時過節》 1940 01:55:01,041 --> 01:55:01,708 　 1941 01:55:01,708 --> 01:55:02,333 也是一些低預算的項目 1942 01:55:03,666 --> 01:55:04,083 　 1943 01:55:06,666 --> 01:55:07,375 有些人連問都不敢問你 1944 01:55:07,375 --> 01:55:09,333 　 1945 01:55:11,666 --> 01:55:12,916 但我覺得兩件事 1946 01:55:13,666 --> 01:55:14,916 　 1947 01:55:14,916 --> 01:55:15,500 　 1948 01:55:18,666 --> 01:55:19,916 大家不要想好像以前一樣 1949 01:55:20,208 --> 01:55:20,625 　 1950 01:55:20,666 --> 01:55:21,291 　 1951 01:55:21,666 --> 01:55:22,750 想拍一些很大的製作 1952 01:55:22,750 --> 01:55:24,083 　 1953 01:55:24,666 --> 01:55:25,875 但如果只是拍低預算的項目 1954 01:55:26,666 --> 01:55:27,666 　 1955 01:55:27,666 --> 01:55:27,958 　 1956 01:55:27,958 --> 01:55:29,666 例如幾百萬至一千萬以下的製作 1957 01:55:29,666 --> 01:55:30,291 　 1958 01:55:30,666 --> 01:55:32,333 　 1959 01:55:32,666 --> 01:55:33,000 可以拍什麼呢 1960 01:55:33,666 --> 01:55:33,958 除了這些沉重的社會議題 1961 01:55:34,666 --> 01:55:35,291 　 1962 01:55:35,291 --> 01:55:35,541 　 1963 01:55:35,541 --> 01:55:38,541 　 1964 01:55:38,541 --> 01:55:39,583 還有什麼可以拍呢 1965 01:55:40,666 --> 01:55:41,250 　 1966 01:55:45,666 --> 01:55:47,750 要看不同的導演個人的經驗 1967 01:55:47,750 --> 01:55:48,500 　 1968 01:55:48,666 --> 01:55:49,291 　 1969 01:55:49,875 --> 01:55:50,791 像剛剛上映的那兩套 1970 01:55:50,791 --> 01:55:51,666 　 1971 01:55:51,666 --> 01:55:52,458 　 1972 01:55:52,458 --> 01:55:53,083 我剛剛提及的《年少日記》和《白日之下》 1973 01:55:53,666 --> 01:55:54,333 　 1974 01:55:54,666 --> 01:55:55,041 　 1975 01:55:55,666 --> 01:55:56,708 　 1976 01:55:56,708 --> 01:55:57,625 雖然也是講社會議題 1977 01:55:58,666 --> 01:55:59,166 但是我覺得看完很開心的一件事是 1978 01:55:59,666 --> 01:55:59,958 　 1979 01:56:00,666 --> 01:56:01,625 　 1980 01:56:01,666 --> 01:56:02,875 　 1981 01:56:02,875 --> 01:56:03,708 　 1982 01:56:03,708 --> 01:56:05,916 起碼在處理上不像以前的電影 1983 01:56:05,916 --> 01:56:06,708 　 1984 01:56:06,708 --> 01:56:07,541 　 1985 01:56:07,666 --> 01:56:08,000 　 1986 01:56:08,666 --> 01:56:09,666 讓你看完很沈重 1987 01:56:09,666 --> 01:56:10,833 　 1988 01:56:10,833 --> 01:56:11,958 或者是很煽情、很黑暗 1989 01:56:11,958 --> 01:56:12,916 　 1990 01:56:12,916 --> 01:56:13,833 　 1991 01:56:14,666 --> 01:56:15,500 　 1992 01:56:15,666 --> 01:56:16,416 起碼告訴你現實是這樣 1993 01:56:16,666 --> 01:56:17,916 　 1994 01:56:17,916 --> 01:56:19,000 　 1995 01:56:19,125 --> 01:56:19,416 　 1996 01:56:22,666 --> 01:56:24,083 你的選擇是可以有改變 1997 01:56:24,083 --> 01:56:24,916 　 1998 01:56:24,916 --> 01:56:25,958 　 1999 01:56:25,958 --> 01:56:26,833 或者你真的應該相信 2000 01:56:27,666 --> 01:56:28,625 　 2001 01:56:28,666 --> 01:56:29,625 自己想相信的東西 2002 01:56:29,666 --> 01:56:31,083 都有一些正面的處理 2003 01:56:31,083 --> 01:56:32,625 　 2004 01:56:32,625 --> 01:56:32,791 　 2005 01:56:33,666 --> 01:56:34,166 不是像我們想像中的沉重 2006 01:56:34,666 --> 01:56:34,708 　 2007 01:56:35,666 --> 01:56:35,916 　 2008 01:56:37,666 --> 01:56:39,208 　 2009 01:56:39,666 --> 01:56:40,000 我覺得這已經是一個出路 2010 01:56:40,000 --> 01:56:40,916 　 2011 01:56:41,666 --> 01:56:42,750 　 2012 01:56:42,750 --> 01:56:43,791 　 2013 01:56:43,791 --> 01:56:44,250 　 2014 01:56:44,666 --> 01:56:45,416 你要去講一個議題 2015 01:56:46,666 --> 01:56:47,125 要怎樣才說得好 2016 01:56:47,666 --> 01:56:48,666 　 2017 01:56:48,666 --> 01:56:49,041 因為還是可以用以前的方法去講 2018 01:56:49,041 --> 01:56:50,166 　 2019 01:56:50,166 --> 01:56:51,750 　 2020 01:56:52,666 --> 01:56:53,666 現在去說故事 2021 01:56:53,666 --> 01:56:54,041 　 2022 01:56:54,041 --> 01:56:55,458 應該要用一些現在人較容易接受的方法去說 2023 01:56:55,666 --> 01:56:56,416 　 2024 01:56:56,416 --> 01:56:57,750 　 2025 01:56:58,000 --> 01:56:58,625 除了在主題上 2026 01:56:58,666 --> 01:57:00,250 　 2027 01:57:00,375 --> 01:57:00,750 在導演手法上都可以有改變 2028 01:57:00,750 --> 01:57:02,166 　 2029 01:57:02,250 --> 01:57:02,916 　 2030 01:57:02,916 --> 01:57:04,250 　 2031 01:57:04,666 --> 01:57:05,916 　 2032 01:57:05,958 --> 01:57:07,083 香港電影人都還是很厲害的 2033 01:57:07,083 --> 01:57:07,833 　 2034 01:57:07,833 --> 01:57:09,333 　 2035 01:57:09,333 --> 01:57:09,750 尤其是年輕新的那一群 2036 01:57:09,750 --> 01:57:11,125 　 2037 01:57:11,375 --> 01:57:14,458 很多韓國或其他國家的電影 2038 01:57:14,458 --> 01:57:17,291 都由香港電影中得到啟發 2039 01:57:17,750 --> 01:57:21,125 現在他們在全世界上得到很多成功 2040 01:57:21,583 --> 01:57:23,750 你覺得在這方面 2041 01:57:24,083 --> 01:57:29,000 香港電影或者它的未來可以怎樣更加好呢 2042 01:57:29,916 --> 01:57:33,875 我想真的很不同若你在說80年代 2043 01:57:35,083 --> 01:57:37,666 東南亞不同地方的人 2044 01:57:37,833 --> 01:57:44,375 中國、台灣、韓國全部人成長都是看港產片的 2045 01:57:44,958 --> 01:57:48,833 看港產片對他們很大的影響 2046 01:57:49,416 --> 01:57:53,333 他們發展得很快 2047 01:57:53,583 --> 01:57:57,041 很多事情都超過了我們 2048 01:57:57,500 --> 01:58:04,500 韓國娛樂片的節奏控制、技術層面 2049 01:58:04,500 --> 01:58:07,000 都有很高的水準 2050 01:58:07,416 --> 01:58:10,041 不單止韓國甚至乎大陸電影 2051 01:58:10,541 --> 01:58:16,708 他們很多製作都真的超過了香港 2052 01:58:16,833 --> 01:58:23,500 不要追求他們的製作規模或水平 2053 01:58:23,833 --> 01:58:27,541 　 2054 01:58:28,208 --> 01:58:32,333 他們都超過了我們因為資源好太多 2055 01:58:32,833 --> 01:58:38,833 我做過大陸製作　我以前美術部只有兩個人 2056 01:58:38,875 --> 01:58:40,875 現在好一點有十多個人 2057 01:58:41,458 --> 01:58:44,666 大陸隨便一部電影　美術部都幾十人 2058 01:58:44,708 --> 01:58:47,833 專門畫畫效果圖、採購 2059 01:58:47,833 --> 01:58:50,791 他們的資源實在比我們好太多 2060 01:58:51,166 --> 01:58:54,375 所以水準比我們好是很合理的 2061 01:58:54,708 --> 01:58:57,666 如果不可以在技術層面或資源上爭的話 2062 01:58:57,666 --> 01:58:59,875 　 2063 01:58:59,958 --> 01:59:05,291 是不是應該從最基本的創作概念 2064 01:59:05,583 --> 01:59:10,500 或內容上去很有效地說我們要說的故事呢 2065 01:59:10,875 --> 01:59:12,125 　 2066 01:59:12,666 --> 01:59:17,916 很有經驗的那些導演繼續他們的創作 2067 01:59:18,125 --> 01:59:21,166 　 2068 01:59:21,250 --> 01:59:28,166 徐克導演他繼續拍他熟悉的天馬行空的古裝片 2069 01:59:28,458 --> 01:59:34,666 聽到周星馳又準備拍他的《少林足球2》 2070 01:59:35,625 --> 01:59:40,666 他們繼續做我們很期待他們會做的事 2071 01:59:41,125 --> 01:59:45,916 這幾年你看到不停地有很多新導演 2072 01:59:46,541 --> 01:59:50,208 他們的作品全部都有一定的水準 2073 01:59:50,333 --> 01:59:53,083 這個創作力是很大的 2074 01:59:53,083 --> 01:59:59,791 我對香港電影是仍然很有期待的 2075 02:00:01,083 --> 02:00:06,000 我們都很期待有更加多更好的香港電影的誕生 2076 02:00:06,416 --> 02:00:06,458 　 2077 02:00:06,458 --> 02:00:08,833 大家有沒有其他問題想問 2078 02:00:14,375 --> 02:00:18,625 (觀眾發問關於《白日之下》題材及香港內地的自由創作度) 2079 02:00:18,625 --> 02:00:19,500 　 2080 02:00:19,500 --> 02:00:21,333 　 2081 02:00:21,333 --> 02:00:32,250 　 2082 02:00:32,791 --> 02:00:33,500 　 2083 02:00:34,583 --> 02:00:38,125 大陸的題材不可以有私生戀 2084 02:00:38,833 --> 02:00:40,291 不可以有同性戀等等 2085 02:00:41,000 --> 02:00:41,583 　 2086 02:00:41,958 --> 02:00:43,000 　 2087 02:00:43,000 --> 02:00:48,333 　 2088 02:00:49,333 --> 02:00:50,375 我不知道 2089 02:00:51,125 --> 02:00:54,333 我們從來沒有收過一個可不可的清單 2090 02:00:54,541 --> 02:00:56,041 　 2091 02:00:56,666 --> 02:00:57,041 (觀眾發問關於《白日之下》題材及香港內地的自由創作度) 2092 02:01:02,958 --> 02:01:06,708 大陸之前也有一部電影 2093 02:01:08,333 --> 02:01:09,250 　 2094 02:01:09,750 --> 02:01:12,916 也是記錄記者新聞自由 2095 02:01:14,125 --> 02:01:14,458 　 2096 02:01:15,750 --> 02:01:17,125 這與題材無關 2097 02:01:17,125 --> 02:01:20,375 電影也是講記者想辦法報導真相 2098 02:01:20,541 --> 02:01:21,125 　 2099 02:01:23,125 --> 02:01:24,416 題材方向不能這樣比較 2100 02:01:24,541 --> 02:01:25,291 　 2101 02:01:26,333 --> 02:01:28,625 (觀眾發問關於香港及內地電影題材之間的不同) 2102 02:01:39,750 --> 02:01:46,375 　 2103 02:01:46,375 --> 02:01:50,583 絕對有　像警匪片 2104 02:01:50,833 --> 02:01:54,500 我忘記什麼時候開始 2105 02:01:54,750 --> 02:01:59,041 所有警匪片都是1997年以前的警察 2106 02:01:59,208 --> 02:02:03,208 再沒有那之後的警察故事 2107 02:02:04,708 --> 02:02:10,500 　 2108 02:02:13,083 --> 02:02:19,791 題材上，現在有很大的一條法例是不可以干犯的 2109 02:02:20,083 --> 02:02:22,291 所有工作人員都要簽合約 2110 02:02:23,041 --> 02:02:28,166 合約有一條是你的言行可以干犯的法例 2111 02:02:28,250 --> 02:02:30,708 　 2112 02:02:30,833 --> 02:02:34,208 怎樣才犯了那條法例? 我也不知道 2113 02:02:34,208 --> 02:02:39,291 那有沒有其他問題呢? 2114 02:02:42,833 --> 02:02:43,041 (觀眾發問對電影放映準則的影響) 2115 02:02:47,833 --> 02:02:51,666 　 2116 02:02:52,916 --> 02:02:55,583 　 2117 02:02:56,833 --> 02:03:01,083 　 2118 02:03:01,083 --> 02:03:09,125 我也不知道在電影院放映 2119 02:03:09,833 --> 02:03:14,250 洪金寶的鬼片都是人們買錄影帶回家看 2120 02:03:14,291 --> 02:03:15,833 　 2121 02:03:18,833 --> 02:03:25,041 很多謝你今天的分享　我覺得很令人興奮 2122 02:03:26,166 --> 02:03:32,250 今天後我看電影對美指這方面 2123 02:03:32,833 --> 02:03:37,041 看電影可以用另一個角度去看 2124 02:03:37,833 --> 02:03:41,208 我想問在你自己的心目中 2125 02:03:41,208 --> 02:03:44,416 哪部電影，不一定是香港的 2126 02:03:45,041 --> 02:03:50,291 在美指中對你的影響很大 2127 02:03:50,833 --> 02:03:53,083 可能是因為它做得很好 2128 02:03:53,083 --> 02:03:56,833 當然可能是資源的問題 2129 02:03:56,833 --> 02:04:00,875 或者它做得太差 2130 02:04:00,875 --> 02:04:05,750 差到不能接受那稱為美指 2131 02:04:05,833 --> 02:04:09,416 有沒有一套電影對你的影響很大 2132 02:04:09,416 --> 02:04:12,750 而且是其他的美指 2133 02:04:13,833 --> 02:04:16,458 可以是海外或其他國家 2134 02:04:18,833 --> 02:04:21,333 很多，例如Akira Kurosawa黑澤明 2135 02:04:21,833 --> 02:04:25,125 黑澤明很多套電影 2136 02:04:25,125 --> 02:04:30,125 或者Alfred Hitchcock希治閣等等 2137 02:04:30,125 --> 02:04:36,333 他們的共通點是甚麼 2138 02:04:37,208 --> 02:04:44,333 除了畫面　是人物角色 2139 02:04:45,083 --> 02:04:51,833 80年代香港電影為什麼這麼成功 2140 02:04:51,833 --> 02:04:54,958 很多是因為那個角色寫得很好 2141 02:04:54,958 --> 02:04:58,875 很多年後還會記得那些角色的名字 2142 02:04:58,875 --> 02:05:01,541 譬如《秋天的童話》中的船頭尺、林亞珍 2143 02:05:01,833 --> 02:05:04,208 　 2144 02:05:04,833 --> 02:05:08,916 那些人物角色很深入民心 2145 02:05:09,833 --> 02:05:13,750 電影成功最重要是那個角色 2146 02:05:13,833 --> 02:05:16,833 令人很記得那部戲 2147 02:05:16,833 --> 02:05:20,333 當然畫面上、技術上很多都很漂亮 2148 02:05:20,833 --> 02:05:25,291 有些很和諧或用色很大膽、很前衛 2149 02:05:30,833 --> 02:05:33,791 很多不同的風格都對我有影響 2150 02:05:33,833 --> 02:05:40,791 但對我來說　電影的人物角色是最重要的 2151 02:05:40,833 --> 02:05:44,708 (觀眾發問) 2152 02:05:44,708 --> 02:05:45,375 　 2153 02:05:46,708 --> 02:05:47,500 　 2154 02:05:47,500 --> 02:05:47,958 　 2155 02:05:50,583 --> 02:05:53,791 比較看好現在哪一些新人 2156 02:05:53,791 --> 02:06:03,416 其實年輕的那群都很好 2157 02:06:03,833 --> 02:06:06,125 幾個女演員都很好 2158 02:06:07,458 --> 02:06:09,625 剛才說的《白日之下》的余香凝 2159 02:06:09,833 --> 02:06:14,458 還有做配角的梁雍婷 2160 02:06:19,833 --> 02:06:20,166 Fish(廖子妤) 2161 02:06:20,166 --> 02:06:25,708 新的那些演員全部都很好 2162 02:06:26,833 --> 02:06:28,958 (觀眾發問關於幕後的新人及評價) 2163 02:06:29,541 --> 02:06:30,208 　 2164 02:06:30,208 --> 02:06:30,666 (幕後)很多新人 2165 02:06:33,291 --> 02:06:35,666 多到很多都不認識 2166 02:06:36,833 --> 02:06:37,916 　 2167 02:06:38,833 --> 02:06:42,750 現在有鮮浪潮的導演計劃 2168 02:06:43,833 --> 02:06:45,375 　 2169 02:06:46,833 --> 02:06:48,875 鮮浪潮是每年都有的短片比賽 2170 02:06:49,833 --> 02:06:51,291 　 2171 02:06:51,833 --> 02:06:54,708 現在的新導演很多都是先拍短片 2172 02:06:54,833 --> 02:07:00,875 得獎後再寫自己的劇本 2173 02:07:01,833 --> 02:07:04,500 那條路也不容易走 2174 02:07:05,833 --> 02:07:07,458 一來就要拍電影 2175 02:07:07,458 --> 02:07:10,583 很多都是試拍短片試寫劇本 2176 02:07:10,833 --> 02:07:13,000 最主要要知道自己想說什麼 2177 02:07:13,833 --> 02:07:17,041 不是為了做導演而做導演 2178 02:07:17,041 --> 02:07:18,958 你真的有個信息想表達 2179 02:07:19,958 --> 02:07:21,416 一步一步來 2180 02:07:22,833 --> 02:07:25,541 最近都有很多新導演 2181 02:07:25,541 --> 02:07:26,666 新電影都真的很好看 2182 02:07:28,333 --> 02:07:31,291 我們很難追看新香港電影 2183 02:07:31,291 --> 02:07:32,708 因為在美國很多時候 2184 02:07:32,708 --> 02:07:35,500 都看不到香港電影上映 2185 02:07:35,500 --> 02:07:36,833 可以和發行公司安排 2186 02:07:36,833 --> 02:07:37,875 　 2187 02:07:38,208 --> 02:07:41,875 某個影院一場特別放映 2188 02:07:43,041 --> 02:07:44,000 　 2189 02:07:44,208 --> 02:07:45,416 可以跟他們談 2190 02:07:47,208 --> 02:07:49,083 希望我們之後有更多資源 2191 02:07:49,208 --> 02:07:51,750 可以做更多的私人放映給紐約的香港人 2192 02:07:51,750 --> 02:07:54,958 　 2193 02:07:55,208 --> 02:07:55,625 　/font> 2194 02:07:55,625 --> 02:07:56,875 還有沒有其他問題要問Man Sir 2195 02:07:57,625 --> 02:07:59,500 　 2196 02:07:59,625 --> 02:08:00,208 　 2197 02:08:00,625 --> 02:08:02,041 (觀眾發問關於新人入行的途徑和是否足夠) 2198 02:08:17,500 --> 02:08:20,666 其實很夠(新人) 2199 02:08:20,666 --> 02:08:22,166 (途徑)有演藝學院、浸會、城大 2200 02:08:22,625 --> 02:08:23,625 　 2201 02:08:24,625 --> 02:08:24,875 　 2202 02:08:26,625 --> 02:08:29,666 　 2203 02:08:30,625 --> 02:08:33,208 還有創意媒體書院 2204 02:08:33,625 --> 02:08:38,875 有很多學習的途徑 2205 02:08:38,875 --> 02:08:42,208 還有剛才說的短片比賽 2206 02:08:42,833 --> 02:08:46,666 現在的新導演全都是不同方法入行 2207 02:08:46,666 --> 02:08:50,541 　 2208 02:08:50,625 --> 02:08:53,125 不像以前要拍電影 2209 02:08:53,625 --> 02:08:55,833 做副導演做十多二十年 2210 02:08:56,625 --> 02:09:01,291 要等機會才有老闆肯開拍 2211 02:09:01,625 --> 02:09:04,791 現在是比以前多了 2212 02:09:04,791 --> 02:09:06,041 不會說是容易了 2213 02:09:06,041 --> 02:09:08,041 但多了渠道可以試 2214 02:09:08,958 --> 02:09:13,416 現在的新導演都比以前的年輕很多 2215 02:09:14,625 --> 02:09:17,458 除了導演之外 2216 02:09:17,625 --> 02:09:22,166 香港電影美術學會都有未來大師班 2217 02:09:22,166 --> 02:09:23,916 　 2218 02:09:23,916 --> 02:09:28,375 專門幫有興趣入行做美指或服裝設計的人 2219 02:09:28,375 --> 02:09:31,875 　 2220 02:09:32,625 --> 02:09:35,333 我們去年搞了一個課程 2221 02:09:35,625 --> 02:09:39,958 有些朋友想入行又沒有類似課程 2222 02:09:40,625 --> 02:09:41,458 　 2223 02:09:41,625 --> 02:09:42,625 這個反而真的不能讀 2224 02:09:42,625 --> 02:09:49,291 我們提供了一個半年的課程 2225 02:09:49,625 --> 02:09:55,083 每個星期上三個小時 2226 02:09:55,125 --> 02:09:56,750 完成了那個課程後 2227 02:09:56,750 --> 02:10:00,083 超過一半的同學都進入行 2228 02:10:01,958 --> 02:10:03,625 我有看報道 2229 02:10:03,625 --> 02:10:05,500 有些人也都得了獎 2230 02:10:05,500 --> 02:10:09,208 可以做到自己很想做的電影行業 2231 02:10:09,625 --> 02:10:10,916 我覺得 2232 02:10:11,625 --> 02:10:15,333 全靠你們這麼願意提攜新人 2233 02:10:15,625 --> 02:10:19,250 才多了很多新的幕後工作人員 2234 02:10:19,625 --> 02:10:21,458 　 2235 02:10:21,458 --> 02:10:25,166 現在因為多了媒體和網絡平台 2236 02:10:25,625 --> 02:10:27,750 　 2237 02:10:28,625 --> 02:10:33,333 你一定要有那團火 2238 02:10:33,625 --> 02:10:37,125 想做導演的熱誠 2239 02:10:37,625 --> 02:10:43,166 加上你有一個很中心想講的信息 2240 02:10:43,625 --> 02:10:48,000 　 2241 02:10:48,625 --> 02:10:50,291 是一定有辦法的 2242 02:10:50,291 --> 02:10:52,625 　 2243 02:10:52,625 --> 02:10:55,041 你這麼多年的從影經歷 2244 02:10:55,041 --> 02:10:57,750 有沒有哪一位導演你合作得最過癮 2245 02:10:57,750 --> 02:11:01,083 或者有什麼很過癮的製作呢 2246 02:11:02,000 --> 02:11:04,416 其實我很幸運 2247 02:11:04,416 --> 02:11:06,708 我和這麼多個導演合作都很愉快 2248 02:11:07,041 --> 02:11:09,291 　 2249 02:11:09,291 --> 02:11:11,208 每個人有不同性格 2250 02:11:11,208 --> 02:11:15,000 有些人就很清楚告訴你想要什麼 2251 02:11:15,041 --> 02:11:16,916 　 2252 02:11:17,041 --> 02:11:18,708 有些是不知道的 2253 02:11:18,708 --> 02:11:21,958 　 2254 02:11:21,958 --> 02:11:24,041 最好你告訴他們想怎樣 2255 02:11:24,041 --> 02:11:31,791 跟不同導演有不同的經驗 2256 02:11:31,791 --> 02:11:33,166 都能從中學習 2257 02:11:33,166 --> 02:11:38,541 當然剛剛入行和大導演合作時 2258 02:11:38,541 --> 02:11:40,958 　 2259 02:11:41,041 --> 02:11:44,291 是自己最戰戰兢兢心態的時候　他們對我的影響最大 2260 02:11:49,041 --> 02:11:50,458 反過來　現在比較多和新導演合作 2261 02:11:50,458 --> 02:11:52,041 　 2262 02:11:53,041 --> 02:11:57,416 很多新導演都很願意互相溝通 2263 02:11:58,041 --> 02:12:00,458 我沒有什麼特別說 2264 02:12:02,041 --> 02:12:03,500 以前就是剛才說的 2265 02:12:04,041 --> 02:12:06,125 許鞍華導演、張艾嘉導演、黃家衛導演 2266 02:12:06,125 --> 02:12:08,625 　 2267 02:12:10,041 --> 02:12:11,666 這些導演對我影響很大 2268 02:12:12,041 --> 02:12:15,958 反而近年多了跟很多不同的新導演合作 2269 02:12:19,041 --> 02:12:22,750 但溝通過程都很愉快 2270 02:12:24,041 --> 02:12:26,208 跟很多不同的人合作 2271 02:12:26,208 --> 02:12:28,041 都可以撞出不同的火花 2272 02:12:28,041 --> 02:12:30,958 都幫助到香港電影 2273 02:12:35,041 --> 02:12:38,333 真的很感謝Man Sir在百忙中抽空出席 2274 02:12:39,041 --> 02:12:42,083 也特別鳴謝家保Sir 2275 02:12:42,083 --> 02:12:45,416 不然這個活動是做不成的 2276 02:12:46,041 --> 02:12:47,583 謝謝家保Sir 2277 02:12:47,583 --> 02:12:48,416 謝謝Man Sir 2278 02:12:48,416 --> 02:12:49,541 謝謝大家抽空出席 2279 02:12:51,041 --> 02:12:54,375 都享用準備了的點心和飲品 2280 02:12:55,416 --> 02:12:57,958 希望大家有個愉快的晚上 2281 02:12:59,041 --> 02:13:00,500 多謝大家 2282 02:13:00,500 --> 02:13:02,208 多謝大家繼續支持香港電影 2283 02:13:04,500 --> 02:13:06,166 香港人要支持香港電影131421