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-[stammers] Do-- Dolce. Dolce.
-Dolce.
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-Dolce. Dolce and Gabbana.
-[teacher] Yeah.
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Dolce.
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-Louis Vuitton.
-[woman] Louis Vuitton.
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[woman speaking Mandarin]
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-Louis Vuitton.
-[woman] Louis Vuitton.
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[camera shutter clicks]
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There wasn't a toy I couldn't buy.
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There wasn't a boat I couldn't buy.
There wasn't a plane I couldn't buy.
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There was nothing I couldn't buy.
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I love money.
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Come to me.
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[shutter clicks]
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[Lauren] Eden, what do you wanna do
with the beauty pageants?
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-What do you wanna win? What's your goal?
-Money.
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Money. Money. Money.
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I would have money as big as this room.
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[Lauren] What do you wanna do
with that money, Eden?
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Spend it all. And kiss it.
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[shutter clicks]
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I do believe it's un-American to say
you can make too much money.
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I mean, TheFederalist Papers say,
if I wanna work 100 hours a week
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and never see my family and die
at an early age, that's my prerogative.
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[camera shutters clicking]
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This is from the Atlantis in Dubai.
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[Lauren] What were you doing in Dubai?
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The prince.
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[all laugh]
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[man] You want to throw money.
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You want people to look at you.
It's power. The money power.
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Tonight we're not even worried
about tomorrow. Fuck it.
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[man 2] It's kind of like the end of Rome.
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I mean, the pyramids were built
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at the moment
of precipitous Egyptian decline.
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And that's what always happens.
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Societies accrue their greatest wealth...
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at the moment that they face death.
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[slide projector clicking]
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[woman]
I've been a photographer for 25 years...
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with my lens focused on wealth
and the excesses of our culture.
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The scale of the excess became clear
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when I documented the family
building the largest house in America.
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I noticed that
no matter how much people had,
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they still wanted more.
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I wondered if the hundreds
of individual stories I had shot
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about money...
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fame...
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sex...
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body image...
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even plastic surgery for dogs,
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were all connected.
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And what they said about us.
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To understand what it all added up to,
in 2008,
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I began working on a book
and exhibition about wealth.
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It would take me back to my earliest work.
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In 1991, I was just starting out
as a photojournalist.
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I had studied visual anthropology
in college
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and landed my first assignment
with National Geographic,
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photographing a Maya Indian village
in Chiapas, Mexico.
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My mom was a professor of psychology
and had been doing research there
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20 years before,
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so we worked together on the project.
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[indistinct chatter]
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My mother spoke the language
and was at home there.
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But I struggled to understand the culture
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and found it really hard
to be accepted into people's lives.
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After we had spent months in the field,
National Geographic killed the story.
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I was devastated.
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I almost quit photography.
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My boyfriend sent me a tape
to encourage me.
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Hi, Lauren. Frank here.
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I just got your letters today.
I really, really miss you.
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Go out and do your photography
and be aggressive.
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The more you put yourself
into this kind of work,
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you're gonna end up confident about
looking for jobs and everything else.
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So, please work hard, okay?
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[Lauren] Frank helped me see
that I shouldn't give up
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and that I needed to find a story
where I had a deeper connection
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to the subject.
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I happened to find an old copy
of Bret Easton Ellis' Less Than Zero.
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The fictional world he depicted
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of jaded excess and too much money
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resonated with what I remembered
growing up in LA.
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I started thinking about my own culture
in almost anthropological terms
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and realized I wanted to go home
and explore it.
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LA diary, March 4, 1992.
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My photography will concentrate
on the social rituals of teenage life.
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I wanna photograph senior ditch day,
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extravagant parties
with walkie-talkie equipped bouncers,
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girls in designer dresses
with hair professionally done,
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Mercedes and BMWs.
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One day I was photographing
at my former high school,
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a private school in Santa Monica.
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-[young Lauren] Here we go.
-[boy] Testing. One, two, three.
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[young Lauren]
What do you think about growing up in LA?
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[Lauren] These three boys said,
"Growing up in LA is about money."
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And they pulled out dollar bills.
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And it wasn't until I processed the film
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that I realized
they were holding up hundred dollar bills.
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And these were 13-year-olds.
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[boy] Money just ruins kids.
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It's ruined a lot of kids I know.
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On the first day of school,
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Kate Hudson went,
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"I'm not gonna tell you
who my mom is, she's a big star.
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And my dad's a bigger star."
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It affects kids who I know, who you know,
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how rich you are, what your dad does,
what your mom does,
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what you have, what I have.
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That narcissism that is so full-blown
in the culture now
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was just beginning to rear its head
in that moment in LA.
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[newscaster] Photographer
Lauren Greenfield has captured the lives
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of some of Hollywood's children
and displayed them in a new book titled,
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Fast Forward: Growing Up
in the Shadow of Hollywood.
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Let's go to the young man
celebrating his bar mitzvah.
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Tell us about this. This doesn't look like
a religious rite to me.
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[Lauren] The family who had this party
rented out the Whiskey a Go Go nightclub
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on the Sunset Strip
and brought in go-go girls
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as entertainment for the kids.
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[man] Looking at all the pictures, I'm
left with a real end-of-the-world quality,
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as though there is a kind
of ultra-decadence.
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These are the images of a society
in extraordinary decline.
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But I'm wondering what
you were looking for.
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[Lauren]
I had no idea what I was looking for then.
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But now I saw a relationship
between what I was covering in the '90s
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in my first book
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and where we found ourselves today.
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It made me want to figure out
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why our obsession with wealth
and status had grown
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and why I felt compelled
to document it so relentlessly.
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So I decided to go back
to the teen subjects from Los Angeles.
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-[both] Hi!
-[laughing]
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[Paris] Holy shit.
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The '90s were crazy.
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[both laugh]
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They're inhaling air freshener
at nutrition break.
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Nice!
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[Paris]
That party that you photographed me in
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was probably one
of the tamest parties I ever had.
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I mean, the shit I used to do... [laughs]
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My father, he is the singer
for REO Speedwagon.
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When I was born was when he really started
having some commercial success,
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which is good for him,
bad for a kid trying to be parented.
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You know,
we got raised backstage by a roadie.
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I could get away with murder
because my dad was on the road
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and my mom was preoccupied,
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and how I got attention was by acting out
and by getting in trouble.
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It really does take a village
to raise somebody,
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and I didn't get that, I was more--
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I was raised on an island with a butler.
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[Lauren] What do you think it is about LA
that makes kids grow up fast?
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[girl] It just seems like everyone's
in a rush to be an adult.
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They're losing their innocence
so young now.
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I hope to stay young forever.
I don't wanna grow old.
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I think I was maybe 17 when we first met.
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You came to my school and you told us
you were doing a project.
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We became friends
and you started following me around.
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[laughs]
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You know, you can look from the outside
and think, "Oh, her life is perfect,"
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or "She's pretty,"
and "She's homecoming queen,"
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and this and that, but, you know...
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My family struggled a lot
with, like, financial problems.
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And these rich Beverly Hills kids can have
anything their heart desires, you know.
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That was one way I didn't fit in.
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It was kind of like a thing, like,
"You're pretty so you can be our friend."
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I was homecoming queen
and I had best body.
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[Mijanou and Lauren laugh]
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[Lauren]
That was what it was called? Best body?
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[Mijanou] Well, it was the senior poll
where I had the best physique, I guess.
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[both laugh]
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So it was like you dressed
with, like, tight clothes
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and trying to look sexy
in the way that the magazines say
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or, like, toward the male gaze.
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Oh, my God, look at that girl, Scotty.
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-[horn honks]
-Hop in!
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Chica!
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Mija was my girlfriend
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in seventh or eighth grade
in elementary school,
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-and--
-[Branden] And your hot Latina. [laughs]
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[Eddie] Well...
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With probably one of the best racks
in high school.
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It's not bad. Let's be honest here, Eddie.
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Hopefully, this is cut.
We don't wanna be disrespectful.
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We're not being disrespectful.
It's the truth, Eddie.
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It is.
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Growing up here, we thought
the entire world revolved around us.
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I feel like I actually got pretty scarred
from that time.
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[Lauren]
And did any of that stay with you?
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Whatever things happened in high school
is always what you're, like,
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trying to heal from later on in life,
you know.
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It really-- You're so young
and impressionable
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that I think those experiences
really shape you.
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[Lauren] When I was in high school,
I was really shy and a little insecure
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and, like most teenagers,
I felt like I didn't fit in.
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I picked up photography
to try to make sense of my world.
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[man] I mean, you went to a--
kind of a fancy high school.
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Education was important and it would cost
a lot of money to go there.
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We found a way to pay for it.
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But the values were not my own values.
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I think you, like a normal girl growing up
in LA, suffered a little bit from it.
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You were trying to fit in from
the viewpoint of clothes, nice house,
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a house you could bring people to.
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I think Crossroads made you anxious
about keeping up with the Joneses.
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The Brentwood parents were afraid
to let their daughters
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come and visit you in Venice
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because they thought it was too dangerous.
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[Sheldon] You actually one time got out
of the car a block away from Crossroads
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so your friends...
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wouldn't have to see the car
that I was driving.
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[Lauren] I remember not being able to buy,
like, the clothes that everybody else had.
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[Patricia] Mm-hmm.
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The things you didn't have
were the things that I didn't believe in.
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[Lauren]
The fact that I had everything I needed,
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and still didn't feel like I had enough,
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made me want to figure out why,
in my work.
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-Who is this knocking on my door?
-Hey!
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-How you doing?
-You don't go by G-Mo anymore.
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-You can still call me G-Mo. It's okay.
-Yeah?
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[hip-hop music plays]
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I came from a good family.
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I came from a real-- You know, we--
My parents worked hard every day.
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Very middle-class. Very much so.
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When I was in the sixth grade,
I went to public school
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and it was just, you know, same old shit.
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But, in the seventh grade,
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I went to this really expensive school,
Crossroads.
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That's when I got my first good glimpse
of a lot of money
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and I was like, "That's what I want."
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Black people aren't really supposed
to have stuff in America,
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but this rap thing is changing everything.
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[rapping]
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Hollywood helped me out that day.
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Made my life like a movie.
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A single girl brought me a platter
with a 40-ounce on it.
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Everybody wants to have money.
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Everybody wants to be surrounded
by beautiful women.
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Everybody wants to have the mansion.
It's like the American dream kinda stuff.
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The dream,
it was about you seeing me doing it big.
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You kinda started laying
a blueprint back then,
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and it's been followed and followed,
now that's almost standard fare.
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[Lauren]
What G-Mo noticed seemed to be a shift
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in the meaning of the American dream.
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It was almost like it had turned into
a quest for fame and fortune.
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And we had left behind the values
of hard work, frugality and discretion
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that had defined our parents' generation.
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Was your story an American dream story?
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Well, in many respects, it was
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because my dad was an immigrant
and I started to achieve heights
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that my parents couldn't even imagine.
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It was a period of upward mobility.
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[Lauren] And was it the American dream
for your parents that you went to Harvard?
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It was. My dad would say,
"Yeah, my son Shelly,
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he goes to Harvard, Harvard, Harvard,
Harvard, Harvard."
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He couldn't stop--
he couldn't stop saying it.
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My dad tried to instill ideals in me,
and they-- and many of them stuck.
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[Lauren] Like?
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Well, like, trying to do good
in the world.
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I think it was partly the times, yes.
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I was still basking in the ethos
of the '60s and the '70s.
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The '80s started to actually change things
quite a bit.
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-[man] Can I come in?
-[Lauren] Come in. Come in. Come in.
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Oh, my God, so opulent.
Exactly not my world anymore.
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The origin of all this fascination
with wealth is the US government itself
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spending way beyond their means.
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Now I'll try to keep this simple
so I don't lose the-- the viewer.
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In '71, America dropped off
the gold standard.
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That basically meant the money
in circulation was no longer backed
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by any assets.
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The '70s was the turning point.
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We began to borrow to maintain
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both a lifestyle and an empire
we could no longer afford.
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We shifted from an empire of production
to an empire of consumption.
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Abandonment of the gold standard
led to abandonment of fiscal discipline.
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Print it like crazy, make it like crazy.
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[Ronald Reagan]
We cut your tax rates by nearly 25%.
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America, go for it.
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The values of the Reagan '80s
really placed this emphasis on wealth.
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There was the idea that
you were better off driving a BMW
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and looking super hot.
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Now, if you look great
and you have a nice car,
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I'm all for it,
but at the expense of what?
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[Lauren] In the '80s, a lot of people
I knew were going into banking.
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And a lot of them wanted
to be like this fictional character,
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Gordon Gekko.
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The point is, ladies and gentlemen,
that greed, for lack of a better word,
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is good.
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Greed is right. Greed works.
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I was definitely Gordon Gekko.
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[chuckles]
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My father told me, "Well, the closer you
are to the money, the more you will have."
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The lights went on and something triggered
up there and said, "Hmm...
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There must be a way to make so much money
that you never look back."
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According to court statements,
my wealth was,
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at its peak, 600 million euros,
roughly 800 million dollars,
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plus or minus
whatever the exchange rate is.
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[Lauren] For the sake of full disclosure,
how do we know each other?
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You were not even a senior.
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And at the very beginning
of your filmmaking.
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I was attending Harvard Business School
at the time.
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It's the West Point of capitalism.
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[Lauren] Does Harvard Business School
teach you how to be a good person?
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No, we're fine-tuned to rule the world.
That's it.
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[man] My dad was always like
a larger-than-life figure,
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casting, like, a huge shadow,
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and I wanted to be just like him
when I was a kid.
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[Lauren] And what drove him?
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He always wanted more, basically,
in my opinion.
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More money, more power
and more fame/infamy.
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I've been called psychopath
because I could get so detached...
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just thinking what is the best,
highest return.
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I am also in exile
and on the FBI Most Wanted List.
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That being as it is,
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if I'd been around 300 years earlier,
I would've been a discoverer.
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But the most exciting thing you could do
in our generation was to be a tycoon.
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[Lauren]
You have so much motivation for your work.
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-What's your driver?
-The money.
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My father worked on Wall Street,
so definitely it was in my blood.
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I mean, I'm 39 years old,
haven't had a family yet, um...
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Haven't ever been married.
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I was working on my career
so I wasn't focused on my personal life.
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I thought I could never be with anybody
who made less money than I did.
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Now I'm making a lot of money,
so, you know,
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the field has really narrowed
substantially.
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I've tried to build up a real net worth
and I collect contemporary art.
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We now have, like, 100 pieces of art
in the collection.
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That's good. I like that one, that style.
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-This one was a late addition.
-Yeah.
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We thought that was too posey.
I think it's a little posey.
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-You think it's--
-Like Life magazine.
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[Lauren] I brought in Trudy Wilner Stack,
a longtime collaborator,
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to help me look through and edit
the hundreds of thousands of pictures.
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Everything's in the wrong place.
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Hi.
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-[Lauren laughs]
-[Trudy] Clean person.
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But you know what?
You have your big assembly tomorrow.
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Are you-- have you learned
everything for it?
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These two are from the bag party.
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What's a bag party?
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Hurry up.
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[woman] The day I went to buy
the Louis Vuitton handbag,
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I was the happiest girl in the world.
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I took the bag, and everyone,
"Oh, God! You bought your bag!
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Oh, yes, it's beautiful!"
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And everybody bows to the bag,
and then I said,
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"Okay, what next?"
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[woman 2]
I have a combination of many bags.
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I guess my bag of choice
is the classic Birkin.
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I have them, I think,
in almost every color.
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[man]
These are Hermès bags that women collect.
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Some owning hundreds of thousands
or millions of dollars' worth of bags.
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-And the bags start at 20,000 and go up.
-[party chatter]
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[Lauren] And how do you, a therapist,
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know so much information
about the Birkin bag?
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Well, I see them every day.
It's part of my life.
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You know, as much as you can dismiss
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or scoff at people obsessing
about their Birkin bags,
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I think it really does say something
about their mental health
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as something that, at its best,
probably can and should be addressed.
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[man] I started off with just
a tiny little skinny chain
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and it grew into this.
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Thirty-three pounds of gold and diamonds
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given to me by superstars of the world,
dead and gone legends.
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I absolutely love old-world elegance.
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[Lauren] And you're famous for?
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I'm a two-time Guinness Book
world-record holder
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of the longest limousine in the world,
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with a swimming pool
and a helicopter landing pad
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and a Boeing 727 jet limo.
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When you pull up in a limousine,
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they don't know who you are,
but they think you're someone.
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The bigger, the longer they are,
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the more exotic they are,
the more the head turns.
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You gotta fake it till you make it.
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It just gives off that image
that I should be worshipped almost.
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I'm somebody, you're not.
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I can afford this, you can't.
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That somehow propels them in this culture.
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00:23:36,041 --> 00:23:39,086
Poor people are the ones that spend
the most money on the $700 shoes,
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the ones that don't have it.
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You want the ones with the bars
and the sparkly...
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the bedazzles on the side
with the shiny... you know what I mean,
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make the girls sweat.
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00:23:47,678 --> 00:23:50,347
You know, pay about $1,200, $1,300,
you know what I mean.
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[Kingpin] It's about exclusivity.
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Can you call up and get you
a pair of fresh Giuseppes
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or do you get to go in the back
of the Versace store and shop?
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00:23:58,313 --> 00:24:02,067
The American dream, to me,
it's all about status right now.
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It's the new doctor in front of your name.
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We hold out the illusion
of the American dream.
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But not only can we and our children
not attain...
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what generations had before...
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but things are getting worse.
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When there is no social mobility...
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the only social mobility you have
is fictitious.
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The presentation that you give
to the rest of the world
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denies your own reality.
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I've come to look at mass culture
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and in particular television
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as a form of violence.
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Because 24 hours a day
this fictitious lifestyle,
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which we're all told that we can have,
fuels this sense of inadequacy.
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[Lauren] People used to compare themselves
to their neighbors.
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00:24:48,780 --> 00:24:52,784
And they aspired to the neighbor
that had a little bit more than they had.
404
00:24:53,744 --> 00:24:56,622
This is so beautiful.
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00:24:56,705 --> 00:24:58,832
This is like we're in Italy, honey.
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00:24:58,916 --> 00:25:01,668
[Lauren] What's changed is that now
people spend more time
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with the people they see on TV
than their actual neighbors
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and they want what they have.
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00:25:09,176 --> 00:25:12,596
I probably know the names
of the Kardashians better than
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I know the names of my neighbors.
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00:25:14,264 --> 00:25:18,560
If you watch anything long enough,
you're gonna kinda think it's real.
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You're gonna start making decisions
based on what you've seen on TV.
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[George W. Bush]
I do believe in the American dream.
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Owning a home is a part of that dream.
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If one of the goals
is to increase home ownership,
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it makes sense to help people pay
that down payment.
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00:25:44,253 --> 00:25:46,588
When we put down the rules, I said,
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"Well, this rule's not gonna
help me make money, right?
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So let's tone this rule down."
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So we set the playing field
right for us only.
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Not for the investor,
not for the loan taker, for us.
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00:26:03,522 --> 00:26:06,775
The American economy
has retained its momentum...
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00:26:06,859 --> 00:26:12,197
Mr. Greenspan lets open the floodgates
and allows everybody to borrow money.
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If you give money out at no cost
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to hundreds of millions worldwide,
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they're gonna do stupid things with it.
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00:26:26,461 --> 00:26:29,506
[woman] We never sought out to build
the biggest house in America.
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It just, like, kind of happened.
429
00:26:33,260 --> 00:26:35,053
[Lauren] When I made the film,
The Queen of Versailles,
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with David and Jackie Siegel,
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00:26:37,514 --> 00:26:42,019
who were trying to build a palace inspired
by the real Versailles in France,
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00:26:42,603 --> 00:26:46,315
what I saw was the dream
that everyone had, but bigger.
433
00:26:46,899 --> 00:26:49,401
And they did it the same way
everyone else did,
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00:26:49,484 --> 00:26:51,403
which was by borrowing.
435
00:26:51,486 --> 00:26:55,282
[Lauren] You think every American
wants to feel rich?
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00:26:55,365 --> 00:26:56,491
I think so.
437
00:26:57,784 --> 00:26:59,411
Everyone wants to be rich.
438
00:27:00,454 --> 00:27:04,166
If they can't be rich,
the next best thing is to feel rich.
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00:27:04,249 --> 00:27:07,461
And if they don't wanna feel rich,
then they're probably...
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dead.
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00:27:10,756 --> 00:27:13,425
[Lauren] It seemed like we were
all addicted to consumerism.
442
00:27:16,595 --> 00:27:19,973
And with globalization,
it kind of spread like a virus.
443
00:27:26,438 --> 00:27:29,733
[man] There was so much money,
it was crazy.
444
00:27:31,568 --> 00:27:35,531
I was working as a sailor.
And then there was a boom in Iceland.
445
00:27:41,703 --> 00:27:43,705
Everyone wanted to go work in a bank.
446
00:27:43,789 --> 00:27:46,959
And I also wanted to try
like other people.
447
00:27:48,293 --> 00:27:51,964
[Lauren] In 2003,
the tiny fishing country of Iceland
448
00:27:52,047 --> 00:27:55,175
began the most rapid expansion
of a banking system
449
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in the history of humankind.
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[Valbjörn]
It was a big salary in the bank.
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00:28:01,807 --> 00:28:03,725
We were just a small country.
452
00:28:03,809 --> 00:28:06,144
And the president of Iceland said,
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00:28:06,228 --> 00:28:08,897
"We will be the best in the business."
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00:28:09,523 --> 00:28:12,943
And the bank loaned everyone money.
Everyone.
455
00:28:13,026 --> 00:28:17,948
You see the movies from Hollywood
and want to have something more extra.
456
00:28:18,907 --> 00:28:20,784
When we were making the house,
457
00:28:21,577 --> 00:28:24,580
my wife saw a decoration magazine
458
00:28:25,163 --> 00:28:27,082
and said, "Oh, that is beautiful."
459
00:28:28,375 --> 00:28:30,169
It was just like Kardashia?
460
00:28:30,252 --> 00:28:31,253
[Lauren] What is it?
461
00:28:31,336 --> 00:28:33,630
-Kardashia?
-[Lauren] Kardashians?
462
00:28:33,714 --> 00:28:35,716
Kardashians, yeah, sorry. [chuckles]
463
00:28:36,717 --> 00:28:39,344
I built a waterfall in the house.
464
00:28:39,761 --> 00:28:43,807
It was our dream
to have a sauna in the house.
465
00:28:44,433 --> 00:28:45,809
It's ridiculous.
466
00:28:47,603 --> 00:28:51,356
[Lauren] Building big
to express success and status
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00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,568
was not limited to Europe
or the United States.
468
00:28:55,110 --> 00:29:00,199
In China, I met a businessman who built
a full-scale replica of the White House
469
00:29:00,699 --> 00:29:03,619
and the view from his office
was Mount Rushmore.
470
00:29:04,912 --> 00:29:08,248
This trip in 2000
was my first big foreign assignment
471
00:29:08,665 --> 00:29:12,044
and an opportunity to cover
the new wealth in China.
472
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,505
But the timing was rough.
473
00:29:14,588 --> 00:29:16,423
[baby cries]
474
00:29:17,758 --> 00:29:19,593
When Noah was two weeks old,
475
00:29:20,010 --> 00:29:23,096
Time magazine sent me a fax
offering me the job.
476
00:29:24,139 --> 00:29:27,309
I took it to Frank, crying, and said,
477
00:29:27,392 --> 00:29:30,604
"I told you my career would be over
when I had a baby."
478
00:29:31,939 --> 00:29:34,858
At that time, the women
who were successful photographers
479
00:29:34,942 --> 00:29:37,152
had chosen not to be mothers.
480
00:29:37,986 --> 00:29:38,987
Frank was like,
481
00:29:39,071 --> 00:29:41,281
"What are you talking about?
You should go."
482
00:29:42,533 --> 00:29:46,119
I asked the pediatrician
if it would be damaging to a baby
483
00:29:46,203 --> 00:29:49,164
to be separated from its mother
at ten weeks.
484
00:29:49,665 --> 00:29:54,837
And he said it'll be fine for the baby,
but it's too punishing for the mother.
485
00:29:56,046 --> 00:29:58,590
I convinced myself that Noah
would be fine.
486
00:29:59,842 --> 00:30:02,219
So I pumped 300 ounces of milk...
487
00:30:03,846 --> 00:30:05,889
and went to China for ten days.
488
00:30:07,724 --> 00:30:09,101
Being away was hard...
489
00:30:09,977 --> 00:30:15,566
but over the next 14 years, I still made
11 more trips to China and Russia
490
00:30:15,649 --> 00:30:17,943
because the stories were so compelling.
491
00:30:20,195 --> 00:30:24,783
With histories of revolutions that tried
to abolish class and inequality,
492
00:30:24,867 --> 00:30:28,579
the desire for luxury and status
was even stronger.
493
00:30:30,706 --> 00:30:33,709
Thirty years ago,
China was an incipient basket case.
494
00:30:33,792 --> 00:30:37,671
I mean, it was total isolation,
everybody was on bicycle.
495
00:30:37,754 --> 00:30:40,883
China is now the biggest market
for all the Western luxury brands.
496
00:30:42,634 --> 00:30:45,721
What the modern-day Chinese woman
is looking for today is a guide.
497
00:30:45,804 --> 00:30:48,557
Their mothers grew up during
the Cultural Revolution, right,
498
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,185
so nobody could teach them
how to wear lingerie.
499
00:30:52,144 --> 00:30:55,689
Whenever you carry your hat
or you put your hat on your lap,
500
00:30:55,772 --> 00:30:57,608
never show the inside.
501
00:30:57,691 --> 00:30:59,818
It's like showing the inside
of your clothes.
502
00:30:59,902 --> 00:31:03,780
How to eat a banana elegantly
with a knife and fork.
503
00:31:04,531 --> 00:31:06,992
[in Mandarin]
When the banana is stabilized,
504
00:31:07,075 --> 00:31:13,498
I am cutting it from a 90-degree angle.
See that?
505
00:31:13,582 --> 00:31:15,751
[in English]
Some people have criticized me, saying,
506
00:31:15,834 --> 00:31:17,628
"Oh, why are these people paying
507
00:31:17,711 --> 00:31:22,424
16,000 US dollars to go learn
how to cut an orange elegantly?"
508
00:31:22,508 --> 00:31:27,554
But everybody who's taken the class
has said it's worth every penny spent.
509
00:31:30,140 --> 00:31:33,810
[Ilona] In Russia, 20 years ago, they have
a small apartment or small house.
510
00:31:33,894 --> 00:31:37,189
They don't have possibilities
to have big house like mine.
511
00:31:39,358 --> 00:31:45,239
The new Russians, the rich Russians,
they build huge libraries, very expensive,
512
00:31:45,697 --> 00:31:48,492
with fantastic books,
513
00:31:49,034 --> 00:31:53,038
and they are not opening it
and it's not touchable.
514
00:31:53,121 --> 00:31:55,374
You cannot even--
"May I look at this book?"
515
00:31:55,457 --> 00:31:58,627
"No, no, no. It's very expensive."
So what?
516
00:31:59,461 --> 00:32:00,796
It's a book.
517
00:32:06,343 --> 00:32:10,472
[Lauren] In Moscow, the debutante ball
of the 19th century has been revived,
518
00:32:10,931 --> 00:32:12,224
but instead of aristocrats,
519
00:32:12,975 --> 00:32:16,812
the girls coming out are the daughters
of oligarchs and celebrities.
520
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,067
[in Russian] The difference between
the "War and Peace" ball
521
00:32:22,150 --> 00:32:25,904
in ancient Russia and the one now
522
00:32:25,988 --> 00:32:29,950
is the difference between real life
and theater.
523
00:32:32,077 --> 00:32:35,455
[Lauren in English] The ball is sponsored
by Maserati and Chanel
524
00:32:35,539 --> 00:32:39,334
and is basically a way
to sell luxury brands to Russian women.
525
00:32:50,429 --> 00:32:52,514
In thinking about the wealth project,
526
00:32:52,598 --> 00:32:56,894
I started seeing connections with work
I had done for a book called Girl Culture.
527
00:32:58,687 --> 00:33:02,649
For years I had been looking
at how girls learn from a young age
528
00:33:02,733 --> 00:33:04,860
that their bodies have currency.
529
00:33:05,986 --> 00:33:07,905
Beauty is how you win.
530
00:33:10,490 --> 00:33:13,702
[woman] When I was single,
I dated all kinds of guys.
531
00:33:14,870 --> 00:33:16,747
I even dated Donald Trump.
532
00:33:16,830 --> 00:33:18,790
[host] Donald, we wanted you to...
533
00:33:22,085 --> 00:33:24,338
[Lauren] And why do we have to suffer
to be beautiful?
534
00:33:25,923 --> 00:33:29,259
I guess, it must be a man's world
out there.
535
00:33:31,929 --> 00:33:34,473
Women get their legs waxed,
their bikinis waxed,
536
00:33:34,556 --> 00:33:37,100
they do these cosmetic procedures,
they have to put on makeup.
537
00:33:39,478 --> 00:33:41,897
Women get the short end of the stick
because we work the same hours
538
00:33:41,980 --> 00:33:44,691
and do all the same things
and then have all this other stuff to do.
539
00:33:45,442 --> 00:33:48,904
[Lauren] I first met Suzanne
for a story I was doing for a magazine
540
00:33:48,987 --> 00:33:51,532
about who spends the most
on body maintenance...
541
00:33:52,241 --> 00:33:53,909
and Suzanne spent the most...
542
00:33:54,701 --> 00:33:55,786
by far.
543
00:33:56,328 --> 00:33:58,372
[Suzanne]
I think looking good is important
544
00:33:58,455 --> 00:34:01,250
in any business, not just mine.
545
00:34:03,252 --> 00:34:07,798
I'm out dealing with clients,
selling something, in a sense.
546
00:34:08,966 --> 00:34:11,009
People like dealing
with attractive people.
547
00:34:11,093 --> 00:34:12,344
It's human nature.
548
00:34:14,179 --> 00:34:18,308
[female student] It's very apparent, the
weight that's put on having longer hair,
549
00:34:18,392 --> 00:34:21,603
that's less, like, nappy
and having lighter skin.
550
00:34:22,771 --> 00:34:27,067
When I was in 11th grade, like,
some people started to make fun of me
551
00:34:27,150 --> 00:34:29,236
because I was darker-skinned.
552
00:34:30,112 --> 00:34:31,822
I kind of got down on myself after that.
553
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:37,411
We base beauty off of one thing,
554
00:34:37,494 --> 00:34:39,746
and however close you are
to that one thing,
555
00:34:39,830 --> 00:34:42,791
makes you prettier than other people.
556
00:34:44,209 --> 00:34:47,880
When you were born, you were
in the 50th percentile for height
557
00:34:47,963 --> 00:34:50,591
and the 90th percentile for weight.
558
00:34:50,674 --> 00:34:54,261
So, I know that, you know,
being short and a little bit round
559
00:34:54,344 --> 00:34:57,723
was your genetic body,
560
00:34:57,806 --> 00:35:00,434
but it wasn't the body,
561
00:35:00,517 --> 00:35:04,646
you know, of the magazines and television,
562
00:35:04,730 --> 00:35:06,815
and so you weren't satisfied with it.
563
00:35:07,566 --> 00:35:11,403
You know,
I think I kept you on the right path
564
00:35:11,486 --> 00:35:14,114
in terms of avoiding an eating disorder,
565
00:35:14,198 --> 00:35:16,116
which you later studied.
566
00:35:16,909 --> 00:35:19,036
[Lauren]
When I made my first film, Thin,
567
00:35:19,119 --> 00:35:21,496
about women with eating disorders...
568
00:35:23,248 --> 00:35:26,710
it was really looking at the heart
of darkness of mental illness.
569
00:35:29,129 --> 00:35:31,048
But a social historian told me,
570
00:35:31,965 --> 00:35:34,218
"Psychopathologies come and go...
571
00:35:36,053 --> 00:35:38,805
but they always tell us about
the historical time period
572
00:35:38,889 --> 00:35:40,557
in which they're produced."
573
00:35:41,892 --> 00:35:47,314
Eating disorders are really common
in the United States. One in seven.
574
00:35:48,190 --> 00:35:50,567
And they flourish in...
575
00:35:51,860 --> 00:35:55,614
countries of affluence
where food is abundant
576
00:35:56,156 --> 00:35:58,408
and where withholding food has power.
577
00:35:59,868 --> 00:36:04,164
Chantelle had an eating disorder
and she felt modeling was exploitative.
578
00:36:05,207 --> 00:36:10,087
So she started cutting herself
and she had really mutilated her body
579
00:36:10,671 --> 00:36:13,674
because she said she wanted to damage
the property.
580
00:36:14,508 --> 00:36:17,177
When she referred to her body as property,
581
00:36:17,636 --> 00:36:21,473
that really brought home the idea
of the commodification of the body.
582
00:36:24,351 --> 00:36:26,812
[woman] What does "beautiful" mean to you?
583
00:36:27,604 --> 00:36:32,568
That I get money
and I'm gonna be a superstar!
584
00:36:33,694 --> 00:36:37,030
[woman]
We've probably got $100,000 invested
585
00:36:37,114 --> 00:36:39,449
-in the last four and a half years.
-[crowd cheering, applauding]
586
00:36:39,533 --> 00:36:43,996
You have wardrobe, you have hair,
you have makeup, you have coaching.
587
00:36:44,872 --> 00:36:50,502
The town that we are from
has a population of 566.
588
00:36:51,003 --> 00:36:52,504
Just the fact that someone
589
00:36:52,588 --> 00:36:56,091
picked her to be on Toddlers and Tiaras
was amazing to me.
590
00:36:57,676 --> 00:36:59,428
[woman] Get it, girl!
591
00:36:59,845 --> 00:37:03,348
[Mickie] Mom here got to thinking,
what would be the biggest thing
592
00:37:03,432 --> 00:37:06,143
that we could do for a three-year-old?
593
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,062
That's how the showgirl costume
came to be.
594
00:37:10,939 --> 00:37:12,316
And she won.
595
00:37:12,399 --> 00:37:15,319
The connotations that come
with the Vegas showgirl,
596
00:37:15,402 --> 00:37:17,237
never crossed my mind.
597
00:37:17,821 --> 00:37:23,368
Apparently, the derriere part
would be open or-- or topless, but,
598
00:37:23,452 --> 00:37:26,288
you know, I wanted glamour
and feathers and glitz.
599
00:37:27,998 --> 00:37:31,251
I always say that maybe if you think
there was something inappropriate,
600
00:37:31,335 --> 00:37:33,587
then maybe there's something wrong
with your thought process
601
00:37:33,670 --> 00:37:35,714
because Mama here doesn't see it that way.
602
00:37:37,382 --> 00:37:39,468
We're a completely pornified culture.
603
00:37:40,469 --> 00:37:44,806
The images of porn are now so pervasive
and accessible throughout the society,
604
00:37:44,890 --> 00:37:46,683
they've leeched into popular culture.
605
00:37:46,767 --> 00:37:48,393
Oh, my God.
606
00:37:49,853 --> 00:37:51,271
[Kim] Are you serious?
607
00:37:51,355 --> 00:37:55,442
[Noah] It's TV, like, the Internet, ads.
608
00:37:55,526 --> 00:37:59,446
I know a lot of kids and stuff
watch, like, porn
609
00:37:59,530 --> 00:38:01,907
and that's also where
a lot of it comes from.
610
00:38:01,990 --> 00:38:03,951
Like the unrealistic women.
611
00:38:04,618 --> 00:38:07,579
I think most people are like--
probably including me--
612
00:38:07,663 --> 00:38:09,540
were exposed to porn at, like...
613
00:38:10,165 --> 00:38:11,583
seventh grade maybe.
614
00:38:11,667 --> 00:38:14,795
You're seeing stuff
that's just completely fake.
615
00:38:15,462 --> 00:38:17,089
It's just like-- it's a movie.
616
00:38:18,298 --> 00:38:21,927
And, like, there's a camera crew
just like this.
617
00:38:22,010 --> 00:38:26,807
Everything's scripted, people believe it
'cause, like, they wanna believe it
618
00:38:27,474 --> 00:38:30,310
and they think that's, like,
how real interactions are.
619
00:38:30,394 --> 00:38:31,937
[phone buzzes]
620
00:38:32,020 --> 00:38:34,648
[Lauren] Does that affect the kinds
of pictures your friends are posting?
621
00:38:35,148 --> 00:38:39,236
[Noah] Yeah. I see a lot of my friends
in, like, very revealing bikinis
622
00:38:39,319 --> 00:38:41,488
to make sure they get a lot of likes.
623
00:38:41,572 --> 00:38:43,115
I did an Instagram study.
624
00:38:43,240 --> 00:38:45,951
The photos that didn't receive
a lot of likes
625
00:38:46,034 --> 00:38:51,915
were stuff like family, and stuff the kids
were trying to get away from.
626
00:38:51,999 --> 00:38:55,711
Guys want what's really demeaning
for women.
627
00:38:55,794 --> 00:38:59,840
And to match, like, guys' expectations,
628
00:38:59,923 --> 00:39:03,218
I think a lot of women
probably try to replicate it.
629
00:39:03,886 --> 00:39:08,724
Perfect. I actually do have an interview
with that girl,
630
00:39:09,141 --> 00:39:11,101
where she says we wanna dance
like strippers.
631
00:39:12,686 --> 00:39:15,522
[girl] I wanna be a dancer.
Topless dancing showgirl.
632
00:39:17,482 --> 00:39:19,818
I think it'd be fun,
dancing with my tits showing off.
633
00:39:19,902 --> 00:39:23,030
If I can accomplish being that,
then I can accomplish anything.
634
00:39:23,906 --> 00:39:27,284
[woman]
Booty up and tip your booty side to side.
635
00:39:27,367 --> 00:39:29,161
So it's almost like a little back stretch.
636
00:39:29,870 --> 00:39:32,247
[Lauren]
There were even trendy exercise classes
637
00:39:33,081 --> 00:39:35,459
that taught cardio strip tease.
638
00:39:36,126 --> 00:39:39,713
So, we're half an arm from our pole,
right hand is up,
639
00:39:39,796 --> 00:39:41,965
we step with your inside foot.
640
00:39:42,049 --> 00:39:45,177
Spin! Hip shift to the left this time.
641
00:39:45,260 --> 00:39:47,429
But you could just keep your handcuffs on
if you prefer.
642
00:39:48,263 --> 00:39:51,225
So let's roll over and crawl
and act like we like it.
643
00:39:51,308 --> 00:39:54,186
[Lauren] When you're documenting
the effects of popular culture,
644
00:39:54,269 --> 00:39:56,897
it's almost like the air we breathe.
645
00:39:56,980 --> 00:39:58,482
It's everywhere,
646
00:39:58,565 --> 00:40:00,734
and so it's hard to actually see it.
647
00:40:01,693 --> 00:40:04,696
In my work,
I often look at the extremes...
648
00:40:05,697 --> 00:40:07,282
to understand the mainstream.
649
00:40:09,326 --> 00:40:13,413
At Magic City, beautiful girls
use their sexual capital
650
00:40:13,497 --> 00:40:15,082
to rise to the top.
651
00:40:17,209 --> 00:40:20,212
We don't have movie stars in Atlanta
so the strippers are the movie stars.
652
00:40:20,295 --> 00:40:21,421
They're high-class.
653
00:40:23,924 --> 00:40:27,135
When I first started dancing here,
it felt like I made it,
654
00:40:27,219 --> 00:40:29,137
like I was in Hollywood.
655
00:40:30,138 --> 00:40:32,933
It was like you were
in the middle of a music video.
656
00:40:33,016 --> 00:40:34,142
[laughs]
657
00:40:35,894 --> 00:40:38,730
Shortcut, shortcut, shortcut.
Make it overnight, make it overnight.
658
00:40:40,023 --> 00:40:42,860
Unfortunately, more and more people
are trying to find a way
659
00:40:42,943 --> 00:40:47,406
around the hard work that it takes
to be successful in life.
660
00:40:47,906 --> 00:40:50,826
Being average has never been
an option for me.
661
00:40:52,327 --> 00:40:57,416
Going to a nine-to-five would just be--
that would be hurtful.
662
00:40:59,251 --> 00:41:03,589
It's just the fact that I can throw money
on a person... and she likes it.
663
00:41:04,089 --> 00:41:05,132
It's a rush.
664
00:41:07,009 --> 00:41:10,053
I don't give a fuck.
Gotta throw this money like yeah!
665
00:41:11,221 --> 00:41:12,389
Throw it!
666
00:41:12,472 --> 00:41:13,807
Know what I'm saying? It's not finesse.
667
00:41:13,891 --> 00:41:16,560
[grunts] Like whoa!
668
00:41:17,519 --> 00:41:19,188
She might get paper cut.
669
00:41:20,355 --> 00:41:22,691
What the fuck is wrong
with these people, man?
670
00:41:24,359 --> 00:41:26,820
Order another thousand! Fuck it.
671
00:41:32,117 --> 00:41:36,371
[Lauren] Like DJ Esco,
I was both critic and participant.
672
00:41:37,456 --> 00:41:40,918
Shooting for magazines gave me
the front row seat to the popular culture
673
00:41:41,627 --> 00:41:43,003
that I needed for my own work.
674
00:41:44,379 --> 00:41:45,631
Yeah, lift your leg. Yeah.
675
00:41:45,714 --> 00:41:47,925
Where's Charlie now? Is he in rehab?
676
00:41:48,008 --> 00:41:50,260
I was banging seven gram rocks
and finishing them.
677
00:41:50,344 --> 00:41:53,347
Because that's how I roll.
I have one speed. I have one gear. Go.
678
00:41:53,430 --> 00:41:57,309
[TV host] It appears Charlie checked
himself before he wrecked himself,
679
00:41:57,392 --> 00:42:01,730
writing a $30,000 check for porn star
and party animal Kacey Jordan.
680
00:42:02,523 --> 00:42:06,818
Amy said he gave you an unusual tip,
like a ball of coke.
681
00:42:06,902 --> 00:42:08,445
It was huge.
682
00:42:12,157 --> 00:42:15,410
[Kacey]
The dream was always to be an actress.
683
00:42:15,494 --> 00:42:18,789
This really makes you feel like
a movie star when you're in makeup.
684
00:42:18,872 --> 00:42:22,417
It was kind of like the film career
that I always wanted.
685
00:42:24,586 --> 00:42:27,548
When I found out I could be an
adult film star, I was like, "Let's go."
686
00:42:27,631 --> 00:42:31,635
'Cause when you have nothing else to do
in a town you don't wanna be in...
687
00:42:32,469 --> 00:42:35,764
Got a plane ticket, found an agent.
688
00:42:36,139 --> 00:42:38,892
I got phone calls from everybody at ABC
689
00:42:38,976 --> 00:42:42,563
and they are overwhelmed
by how many people liked you.
690
00:42:43,897 --> 00:42:45,315
So that was pretty cool.
691
00:42:47,192 --> 00:42:50,821
It was definitely the feeling
of being really close to my dream.
692
00:42:52,197 --> 00:42:55,993
You know, before I left Oregon,
I was living out of my car
693
00:42:56,076 --> 00:42:58,245
so I didn't have to live
under my parents' rules
694
00:42:58,328 --> 00:43:01,164
and I was living off Taco Bell because
it's the cheapest thing you could do.
695
00:43:01,915 --> 00:43:05,127
I had 88 cents,
and the bean burrito was 89 cents.
696
00:43:06,128 --> 00:43:08,255
I just broke down crying
at the Taco Bell cashier.
697
00:43:09,965 --> 00:43:14,761
And a year later, I was living across
from the Grove on the top penthouse floor.
698
00:43:16,763 --> 00:43:22,311
That was one of the coolest moments
of my life, was that feeling of success.
699
00:43:22,394 --> 00:43:26,190
I was like buying my sister, my family--
I'm like, "Oh, here's a flatscreen."
700
00:43:26,273 --> 00:43:28,859
Like, "Let's just go to Best Buy
and just pick out whatever you want.
701
00:43:28,942 --> 00:43:29,943
It's just cash."
702
00:43:30,027 --> 00:43:34,156
It was just, like, from zero to 100
and I was addicted.
703
00:43:40,329 --> 00:43:41,830
Are you guys ready?
704
00:43:42,748 --> 00:43:45,876
I was determined
to make something out of myself.
705
00:43:46,418 --> 00:43:48,128
Leaving Kansas...
706
00:43:48,754 --> 00:43:51,757
I said, "Mama, one day
you're gonna see me walk a red carpet."
707
00:43:54,301 --> 00:43:56,803
I was a single mother coming to Vegas.
708
00:43:56,887 --> 00:44:02,434
I vowed to make that money
to be able to give my son something
709
00:44:02,518 --> 00:44:06,188
and to always be able to take care
of myself where I didn't depend on a man.
710
00:44:07,314 --> 00:44:09,983
What I do in Las Vegas
is a pretty important business.
711
00:44:10,067 --> 00:44:16,156
When it comes to VIPs,
everybody wants to feel like a rock star.
712
00:44:18,033 --> 00:44:20,786
I've gotta make sure that they've got
the best tables or cabanas
713
00:44:21,161 --> 00:44:25,874
that are around $10,000,
that they have the best bottle service.
714
00:44:27,543 --> 00:44:29,503
If you've got the girls,
you've got the game.
715
00:44:30,546 --> 00:44:32,631
She's not a madam.
716
00:44:34,049 --> 00:44:36,885
Just wanna clarify that out right now.
From her son.
717
00:44:38,846 --> 00:44:42,474
I mean, sure, blonde hair, big boobs--
yeah, I know a lot of those, but...
718
00:44:43,725 --> 00:44:45,102
you don't compare to Tiffany.
719
00:44:45,686 --> 00:44:48,188
Like, she's queen of Vegas, you know?
720
00:44:51,191 --> 00:44:52,192
Are you wearing underwear?
721
00:44:52,276 --> 00:44:53,694
-[Preston] Mom... legs.
-It is white.
722
00:44:55,237 --> 00:44:57,906
-You see her panties all the time.
-Have some class, don't show ass.
723
00:44:57,990 --> 00:45:00,492
Ooh! I like that!
724
00:45:01,368 --> 00:45:05,956
Are you out tonight, question mark.
Trouble is a-brewing.
725
00:45:08,667 --> 00:45:09,710
[indistinct]
726
00:45:09,793 --> 00:45:11,003
[Preston] I've seen a lot.
727
00:45:11,837 --> 00:45:14,798
You couldn't show me anything else
that would make my head spin.
728
00:45:15,257 --> 00:45:20,304
I've seen everything, from $5,000 contests
to see who looks best naked.
729
00:45:20,387 --> 00:45:24,224
I've seen--
I've done bachelor parties for girls
730
00:45:24,308 --> 00:45:27,311
who are doing toy shows
on a hotel room floor.
731
00:45:28,478 --> 00:45:30,314
[Lauren]
Toy shows, that means erotic toys?
732
00:45:31,315 --> 00:45:32,608
Yes.
733
00:45:34,776 --> 00:45:36,695
[Tiffany] I'm such an untraditional mom.
734
00:45:37,613 --> 00:45:40,449
It's been, like, a challenge, like,
am I gonna bring him out
735
00:45:40,532 --> 00:45:42,284
into this nightlife or not?
736
00:45:42,367 --> 00:45:44,203
And I-- I'm bringing him in.
737
00:45:48,665 --> 00:45:53,003
[Preston] I'd love to DJ for as long
as I could possibly use my fingers.
738
00:45:53,086 --> 00:45:56,590
But I'm also really big
into lizards, so...
739
00:45:57,966 --> 00:46:03,180
if I ever retired one day,
I would just probably own a pet store,
740
00:46:03,263 --> 00:46:04,389
probably make me happier.
741
00:46:15,192 --> 00:46:16,735
[Homm] It's not a moral discussion.
742
00:46:17,236 --> 00:46:21,490
Sex is, of course,
an extension of commerce.
743
00:46:21,573 --> 00:46:22,991
What isn't?
744
00:46:28,747 --> 00:46:34,670
We're in the VIP suite
of the Artemis Wellness Club.
745
00:46:34,753 --> 00:46:36,755
Some would say "bordello" in Berlin.
746
00:46:37,965 --> 00:46:40,217
I used to be co-investor in here.
747
00:46:40,717 --> 00:46:42,469
We're matching buyers--
748
00:46:42,553 --> 00:46:45,305
well, technically,
you call them johns in America--
749
00:46:45,389 --> 00:46:49,476
and the sellers, which we would prefer
to call sex workers, not even prostitutes.
750
00:46:52,563 --> 00:46:55,774
I lost my virginity when I was like 15
to a prostitute in Amsterdam
751
00:46:55,858 --> 00:46:57,985
and my dad was the one
who actually took me there.
752
00:47:05,325 --> 00:47:10,914
My son was driving me absolutely nuts
with this girl and that girl
753
00:47:10,998 --> 00:47:15,878
and "I'm, like, having bets in school,
who will kiss the first girl"
754
00:47:15,961 --> 00:47:18,338
and I said "We're--
we're going to Amsterdam, young man."
755
00:47:18,964 --> 00:47:20,048
And he was like,
756
00:47:20,132 --> 00:47:22,426
"You're almost turning 16,
I can't believe you're still a virgin.
757
00:47:22,509 --> 00:47:26,430
I lost my virginity when I was 14
to a prostitute that I paid
758
00:47:26,513 --> 00:47:28,599
with a jar of coins."
759
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,604
It's like a rite of initiation.
760
00:47:34,021 --> 00:47:35,355
[Lauren] Did you pay for it?
761
00:47:35,439 --> 00:47:39,193
Yeah! I can't let my son pay for it.
That would be completely criminal.
762
00:47:39,276 --> 00:47:41,612
He paid her, like, a bonus
763
00:47:41,695 --> 00:47:44,489
for teaching me how to--
how to have sex properly.
764
00:47:44,573 --> 00:47:45,949
[chuckles]
765
00:47:51,371 --> 00:47:55,501
Unfettered, unregulated capitalism
does what it's designed to do,
766
00:47:55,584 --> 00:47:57,085
which is commodify everything.
767
00:47:57,169 --> 00:48:01,340
Even human beings become commodities
that you exploit...
768
00:48:02,049 --> 00:48:05,761
for profit, until exhaustion or collapse.
769
00:48:09,431 --> 00:48:14,520
[Lauren] Did you ever take painkillers
or drugs to get through a scene?
770
00:48:14,603 --> 00:48:19,733
Uh, yeah, a lot of times.
Like, I actually had my ass torn...
771
00:48:21,485 --> 00:48:23,070
last year
772
00:48:23,153 --> 00:48:26,114
and I took a lot of painkillers
for that one.
773
00:48:26,198 --> 00:48:27,950
[coughs] Sorry.
774
00:48:28,033 --> 00:48:29,284
[exhales]
775
00:48:29,910 --> 00:48:31,578
I did a 58...
776
00:48:32,955 --> 00:48:34,414
58-guy bukkake.
777
00:48:34,498 --> 00:48:36,959
-Is there more than 50?
-I doubt it.
778
00:48:37,626 --> 00:48:39,211
Is there less than 50? Is there a chance?
779
00:48:39,294 --> 00:48:41,463
Guys, quiet! Listen!
780
00:48:41,547 --> 00:48:43,215
Fifty-eight loads to the face.
781
00:48:43,298 --> 00:48:45,050
So much for makeup and hair.
782
00:48:45,133 --> 00:48:47,845
And I am still remembered like,
"Oh, I loved that scene you did."
783
00:48:47,928 --> 00:48:51,014
I get a lot of clients from just the fact
that I did that scene.
784
00:48:51,098 --> 00:48:52,516
[woman] Chin up a little more.
785
00:48:52,599 --> 00:48:54,101
-[man] Nipples out?
-[woman] Not yet.
786
00:48:54,184 --> 00:48:57,145
[Kacey] As much work as I've gotten
from it, it was worth it.
787
00:48:58,230 --> 00:48:59,398
[man] Good job!
788
00:48:59,481 --> 00:49:01,483
[Kacey] But I actually got salmonella.
789
00:49:02,860 --> 00:49:06,989
It's like a food-borne illness,
and I got it.
790
00:49:07,447 --> 00:49:10,158
-[man] Good job!
-Oh, my God!
791
00:49:10,242 --> 00:49:12,911
It's probably 'cause someone had it
and it went in my eye or something.
792
00:49:12,995 --> 00:49:13,996
It was so weird.
793
00:49:14,079 --> 00:49:18,125
I wanted to do
something cool or something new
794
00:49:18,208 --> 00:49:20,836
where I could be remembered,
but, yeah-- and it worked.
795
00:49:21,753 --> 00:49:26,633
Yeah, I always say, Kim is my inspiration
for I can still make it, you know,
796
00:49:26,717 --> 00:49:29,261
'cause I have lots of sex tapes to show
797
00:49:29,344 --> 00:49:33,682
and maybe I'll still
come out on top somehow.
798
00:49:41,190 --> 00:49:46,862
This is pretty hard core. Maybe we should,
you know, not think about it too much.
799
00:49:52,784 --> 00:49:54,203
-[Lauren] And then--
-[Trudy] Oh, my God.
800
00:49:54,870 --> 00:49:57,581
When we started, we thought
we were gonna go through about...
801
00:49:59,082 --> 00:50:02,711
five file cabinets of pictures
802
00:50:03,253 --> 00:50:07,591
and then we ended up going through
half a million pictures.
803
00:50:08,300 --> 00:50:13,138
Almost everything I had done
related to this theme and this project.
804
00:50:16,558 --> 00:50:17,893
Going through the pictures,
805
00:50:17,976 --> 00:50:20,812
I realized wealth was
much more than money.
806
00:50:21,605 --> 00:50:24,149
It was whatever gave us value.
807
00:50:24,233 --> 00:50:28,612
Sexuality, branding, even youth.
808
00:50:32,241 --> 00:50:33,575
When I was in my 20s,
809
00:50:33,659 --> 00:50:36,203
I went to the dermatologist
for a routine checkup...
810
00:50:37,287 --> 00:50:40,249
and unsolicited, he offered me Botox.
811
00:50:41,041 --> 00:50:45,045
I was so shocked to find out that
I had a problem I didn't know existed.
812
00:50:45,128 --> 00:50:47,756
Then I realized this could be a project.
813
00:50:50,968 --> 00:50:53,929
People were not aging,
like in prior generations.
814
00:50:55,055 --> 00:50:58,767
So, I started documenting the value
of staying young.
815
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,229
And the cost of not being who you are.
816
00:51:03,188 --> 00:51:05,566
And yearning to be something different.
817
00:51:10,153 --> 00:51:13,323
Cosmetic procedures
weren't just for the rich anymore.
818
00:51:13,866 --> 00:51:17,661
Most people who got them
made less than $50,000 a year.
819
00:51:18,662 --> 00:51:22,499
I looked at many cable shows of people
who had had plastic surgery.
820
00:51:22,583 --> 00:51:26,753
She has worked harder on herself
than she ever has before in her life.
821
00:51:26,837 --> 00:51:28,338
I ate it up.
822
00:51:28,422 --> 00:51:31,300
[audience cheering]
823
00:51:31,383 --> 00:51:34,553
[Lauren] It's almost like there's
a new version of the American dream.
824
00:51:35,596 --> 00:51:39,766
The physical makeover
as the rags-to-riches success story.
825
00:51:42,603 --> 00:51:45,564
Cathy was a school bus driver
and single mom.
826
00:51:46,607 --> 00:51:48,150
[Cathy] I took a raw look at myself.
827
00:51:49,193 --> 00:51:51,195
I was no longer married.
828
00:51:51,278 --> 00:51:54,031
I didn't have the financial stability
that I wanted, I didn't own a home--
829
00:51:54,114 --> 00:51:56,158
that had been one of my goals for years,
830
00:51:56,241 --> 00:51:57,242
I could let that go.
831
00:51:58,118 --> 00:52:02,831
What really mattered in life
was to be in the best body that I could.
832
00:52:04,625 --> 00:52:08,712
The summer of '07 is when
all the opportunities seemed to converge.
833
00:52:08,795 --> 00:52:11,757
I went to Brazil to get plastic surgery.
834
00:52:13,133 --> 00:52:14,510
I had a...
835
00:52:15,844 --> 00:52:18,847
pregnancy that really had distorted
my body.
836
00:52:19,348 --> 00:52:23,560
Carrying so large with a nine-pound baby,
I had a lot of skin.
837
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,855
[Lauren] How'd that make you feel
when you looked in the mirror?
838
00:52:26,939 --> 00:52:28,148
Awful.
839
00:52:29,358 --> 00:52:32,903
And I had contemplated
how it affects my daughter.
840
00:52:32,986 --> 00:52:37,616
She was an early bloomer
and she was about to enter into an age
841
00:52:37,699 --> 00:52:40,452
where her body would change
even more rapidly.
842
00:52:41,537 --> 00:52:45,165
I'd always come to the conclusion
that me satisfying my own body issues
843
00:52:45,249 --> 00:52:47,125
was the best thing I could do for her.
844
00:52:48,877 --> 00:52:50,921
[Lauren] If I said to your kids,
"Where's your mom now?"
845
00:52:51,004 --> 00:52:52,256
What would they say?
846
00:52:52,339 --> 00:52:55,050
In Brazil getting her stom--
her tummy tucked.
847
00:52:55,133 --> 00:52:57,469
[laughs] They're very happy for me.
848
00:53:00,222 --> 00:53:04,601
I've also added to the list a breast lift
and a breast augmentation.
849
00:53:05,227 --> 00:53:07,271
I've been convinced
that I would look wonderful
850
00:53:07,354 --> 00:53:08,772
with a little Brazilian butt lift.
851
00:53:09,690 --> 00:53:12,818
And we are sculpting under my neck
with lipo
852
00:53:12,901 --> 00:53:16,196
and we are reshaping my nose
to refine it--
853
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,323
refine the tip and get rid of a bump.
854
00:53:20,659 --> 00:53:23,579
I paid for it on credit.
I didn't have all the money at the time.
855
00:53:23,662 --> 00:53:26,331
It was sort of a miracle unfolding
in front of me.
856
00:53:26,415 --> 00:53:29,376
But my parents did help me some, which was
not a position I wanted to put them in,
857
00:53:29,459 --> 00:53:30,752
but my mother, I believe,
858
00:53:30,836 --> 00:53:33,672
recognized that this was
a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for me.
859
00:53:35,674 --> 00:53:39,761
[Lauren] Is the plastic surgery here
the same as in the United States?
860
00:53:40,512 --> 00:53:41,597
It's different.
861
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:48,478
The anesthesiologist
like to use this technique.
862
00:53:48,979 --> 00:53:50,689
General anesthetic...
863
00:53:51,565 --> 00:53:53,358
it's not necessary.
864
00:53:55,110 --> 00:53:56,862
I was thinking,
this is not like buying a purse.
865
00:53:56,945 --> 00:54:00,407
I could take a purse back.
What if I make the wrong decision?
866
00:54:05,996 --> 00:54:07,998
I'm a little overwhelmed,
I'm a little confused
867
00:54:08,081 --> 00:54:11,877
and I'm more alone than I thought.
868
00:54:14,963 --> 00:54:16,840
Do I know what I'm doing?
I know what I'm doing.
869
00:54:16,924 --> 00:54:18,842
I'm a good mother. I'm a good person.
870
00:54:18,926 --> 00:54:20,135
I might be indulgent.
871
00:54:20,844 --> 00:54:23,514
I can't tell. I'm sleepy.
872
00:54:32,105 --> 00:54:34,066
The greatest relief was seeing myself...
873
00:54:36,902 --> 00:54:38,487
changed, better.
874
00:54:44,618 --> 00:54:47,579
When considering one's own body,
that's a life skill,
875
00:54:47,663 --> 00:54:50,374
a coping skill that every young woman
has to-- has to develop.
876
00:54:50,874 --> 00:54:52,543
My daughter-- that was hard for her.
877
00:54:53,836 --> 00:54:57,047
It was the changing emotions
of emerging on adulthood.
878
00:54:57,130 --> 00:55:00,050
She went in her bedroom at the time
and she cut herself.
879
00:55:01,301 --> 00:55:02,886
She carved...
880
00:55:04,304 --> 00:55:06,098
she carved letters in her forehead.
881
00:55:06,849 --> 00:55:09,852
"Dead," as if she wished she were dead.
882
00:55:11,353 --> 00:55:14,857
And that was the hardest thing
I've dealt with in my life.
883
00:55:15,858 --> 00:55:16,984
The hardest thing.
884
00:55:17,693 --> 00:55:19,236
Why would you...
885
00:55:21,154 --> 00:55:22,739
intentionally distort...
886
00:55:24,825 --> 00:55:26,326
deface your body?
887
00:55:26,410 --> 00:55:31,331
I felt it was a failure of myself
to impart to her how much she's loved...
888
00:55:32,124 --> 00:55:33,417
and how much she's worth.
889
00:55:36,461 --> 00:55:38,463
[Suzanne] I always wanted children.
890
00:55:38,547 --> 00:55:41,925
I waited till 40.
I thought it was time to get married.
891
00:55:42,676 --> 00:55:45,137
We had already seen fertility specialists
who said, you know,
892
00:55:45,220 --> 00:55:47,431
you should start yesterday, not tomorrow.
893
00:55:48,599 --> 00:55:53,145
As we sit here today, I'm in the process
of doing my fifth IVF cycle.
894
00:55:53,228 --> 00:55:56,190
We're not talking about $500, $600, $800,
895
00:55:56,273 --> 00:56:00,736
we're talking about five times in,
you're at $100,000.
896
00:56:00,819 --> 00:56:05,324
You know, our charity dollars this year
went towards trying to get pregnant.
897
00:56:06,617 --> 00:56:09,328
The process has cut
our social life way back.
898
00:56:09,411 --> 00:56:11,163
It's not romantic.
899
00:56:11,246 --> 00:56:14,333
It's not, "Oh, let's drink a wonderful
bottle of wine and make love,"
900
00:56:14,416 --> 00:56:16,585
and, you know, "Here, we got pregnant."
901
00:56:17,794 --> 00:56:20,422
I had hired the best doctors,
I was paying top dollar.
902
00:56:20,839 --> 00:56:24,009
If I read somewhere that, you know,
exercising wasn't good,
903
00:56:24,092 --> 00:56:25,177
I stopped exercising.
904
00:56:25,260 --> 00:56:28,222
If I read somewhere that
Mayan uterine massage was good,
905
00:56:28,305 --> 00:56:29,973
I went and had Mayan uterine massage.
906
00:56:30,349 --> 00:56:32,518
I've cut back on the Botox more
because I'm concerned
907
00:56:32,601 --> 00:56:35,687
about injecting botulism toxin
into my body, you know.
908
00:56:35,771 --> 00:56:38,273
Maybe that's not such a good idea
if I'm trying to get pregnant.
909
00:56:38,357 --> 00:56:40,859
So, I've kinda done it less,
you know, it's funny,
910
00:56:40,943 --> 00:56:45,239
after my failed cycle this summer,
I hadn't had Botox and I went right in
911
00:56:45,322 --> 00:56:46,949
to make myself feel better.
912
00:56:50,953 --> 00:56:53,914
My time was running out
in terms of getting a viable egg.
913
00:56:54,748 --> 00:56:59,044
I knew somebody through business who said,
"Get my surrogate to do it for you."
914
00:57:00,546 --> 00:57:03,799
My doctor,
when he first examined Jennifer,
915
00:57:03,882 --> 00:57:06,760
said, you know, this woman's like
a walking baby carrier.
916
00:57:07,386 --> 00:57:08,428
Like, this is great.
917
00:57:08,512 --> 00:57:10,848
When you're a surrogate,
you just have to have a strong mind-set
918
00:57:10,931 --> 00:57:13,016
that you're kind of babysitting
for nine months, you know.
919
00:57:13,100 --> 00:57:15,644
I'm holding on to it,
I'm gonna take care of it for you
920
00:57:15,727 --> 00:57:17,062
and then I'm handing it off.
921
00:57:18,564 --> 00:57:21,358
-Was it expensive to do a surrogate?
-Very.
922
00:57:22,401 --> 00:57:25,362
And what did you need the extra money for?
923
00:57:25,445 --> 00:57:27,531
Right now I have a three bedroom,
one bath...
924
00:57:28,115 --> 00:57:31,910
which I'm okay with it, but I don't know.
925
00:57:32,995 --> 00:57:34,705
Bigger is better, right? [laughs]
926
00:57:35,247 --> 00:57:39,042
Jennifer was great,
in the sense that it was my thing.
927
00:57:39,126 --> 00:57:40,711
She did what I wanted her to do
928
00:57:40,794 --> 00:57:43,130
and so I micromanaged
pretty much every aspect of it.
929
00:57:43,213 --> 00:57:45,007
She thinks about things
like I never thought about.
930
00:57:45,090 --> 00:57:46,633
Not standing in front of the microwave
931
00:57:46,717 --> 00:57:48,385
because it would affect me
getting pregnant,
932
00:57:48,468 --> 00:57:50,345
or don't drink out of Styrofoam cups,
933
00:57:50,429 --> 00:57:52,472
no sugar substitutes.
934
00:57:53,056 --> 00:57:56,310
Was your husband equally committed
to having a baby?
935
00:57:58,270 --> 00:58:00,105
You know, the answer is no.
936
00:58:01,190 --> 00:58:04,818
The reality is,
after the fifth or sixth try,
937
00:58:04,902 --> 00:58:08,280
he was no longer that interested,
so it was really...
938
00:58:08,947 --> 00:58:11,158
a very solo journey for me.
939
00:58:11,825 --> 00:58:18,707
It's me, myself and I and my worth
which is net worth. Nothing else.
940
00:58:19,708 --> 00:58:24,588
I had homes of 20,000 square feet
I had never spent a night in
941
00:58:24,671 --> 00:58:26,173
'cause I was too busy working.
942
00:58:26,882 --> 00:58:29,593
Hard to believe, if you do the math,
but in busy days,
943
00:58:29,676 --> 00:58:31,553
300 to 500 telephone calls a day.
944
00:58:31,637 --> 00:58:34,097
I think the first time he retired,
he had a lot of money already--
945
00:58:34,181 --> 00:58:35,182
I don't know how much.
946
00:58:35,265 --> 00:58:39,895
He could've stopped working
and led a family life if he had wanted to.
947
00:58:41,855 --> 00:58:45,108
We were renting a castle in France
in the boondocks.
948
00:58:46,902 --> 00:58:49,863
There was no cell signal
and my kids still today laugh
949
00:58:49,947 --> 00:58:52,074
when they said I was climbing
on the highest peaks,
950
00:58:52,908 --> 00:58:56,620
holding up my telephone to get a signal.
951
00:58:56,703 --> 00:59:00,249
That vacation cost me at least three
or four million in forgone profit.
952
00:59:02,125 --> 00:59:04,920
[Conrad] My dad was always like completely
disinterested in the family life.
953
00:59:06,463 --> 00:59:08,465
I found out he had an affair.
954
00:59:09,675 --> 00:59:12,761
I think she was either a stripper
or a go-go dancer.
955
00:59:13,262 --> 00:59:14,930
[Lauren]
How was she different from your wife?
956
00:59:17,224 --> 00:59:20,477
It is hilarious. Yes, fake breasts.
957
00:59:21,061 --> 00:59:22,813
Very commercially minded.
958
00:59:24,898 --> 00:59:27,276
[Lauren]
Well, tell me about this intense...
959
00:59:29,653 --> 00:59:34,324
love for excess,
whether it's money, women--
960
00:59:34,408 --> 00:59:37,828
-Work. [chuckles]
-[Lauren] Work.
961
00:59:37,911 --> 00:59:42,541
How can a 100-hour work week
not compromise your relationship
962
00:59:42,624 --> 00:59:44,710
with anything that's worthwhile?
963
00:59:49,339 --> 00:59:51,800
[Lauren] As I went deeper
into my subjects' obsessions...
964
00:59:54,344 --> 00:59:56,305
I was surprised they reflected my own.
965
00:59:56,388 --> 00:59:57,389
Rolling.
966
01:00:01,059 --> 01:00:06,106
And I remember when I photographed Shelly,
one of the anorexic girls in Thin.
967
01:00:07,399 --> 01:00:09,860
She said work is your addiction.
968
01:00:18,035 --> 01:00:19,411
Are you me?
969
01:00:21,205 --> 01:00:23,665
Are you on a filming boycott?
970
01:00:26,418 --> 01:00:27,503
Yes.
971
01:00:28,378 --> 01:00:29,838
Stop!
972
01:00:36,094 --> 01:00:39,681
[Lauren laughs]
973
01:00:43,936 --> 01:00:45,979
[Lauren]
Why do you think I have a problem?
974
01:00:47,898 --> 01:00:48,982
[Gabriel] Hmm...
975
01:00:50,359 --> 01:00:52,903
You're filming every second of our lives.
976
01:00:54,279 --> 01:00:56,532
[Lauren]
Do you-- do you think I'm a workaholic?
977
01:00:57,658 --> 01:00:59,201
A workaholic?
978
01:01:00,452 --> 01:01:01,787
Yeah, like...
979
01:01:02,496 --> 01:01:04,623
and your mom is even more than you.
980
01:01:05,499 --> 01:01:07,459
[Lauren] And do you think Noah is similar?
981
01:01:08,585 --> 01:01:12,005
Yeah, Noah is a little Lauren, definitely.
982
01:01:12,506 --> 01:01:15,133
[Lauren]
Noah might be more intense than me.
983
01:01:15,217 --> 01:01:19,346
-One, two, three.
-Forty-one.
984
01:01:19,429 --> 01:01:20,556
Four, light and quick.
985
01:01:21,682 --> 01:01:24,977
[Patricia] Where did the addiction to work
come from, do you think?
986
01:01:25,060 --> 01:01:26,228
[Lauren] I think it came from you.
987
01:01:26,311 --> 01:01:29,481
I think you're a way bigger workaholic
than I am.
988
01:01:29,565 --> 01:01:33,360
No, you're a way bigger workaholic
than I am.
989
01:01:33,443 --> 01:01:36,113
Yeah, how long is the longest
you've gone on a shoot?
990
01:01:36,196 --> 01:01:38,282
I would say six weeks or two months.
991
01:01:38,365 --> 01:01:42,536
I never went away that long. Never!
992
01:01:43,704 --> 01:01:45,539
I don't know,
I had a lot more time with Dad.
993
01:01:46,748 --> 01:01:49,126
-[Lauren] Did Dad kinda compensate?
-[Noah] Yeah.
994
01:01:55,215 --> 01:01:58,093
[Lauren] It made Frank have that
very close connection...
995
01:01:59,845 --> 01:02:02,681
which has sustained us since that time.
996
01:02:04,892 --> 01:02:08,228
It allows me to travel and do the work.
997
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:12,941
Mommy!
998
01:02:14,860 --> 01:02:15,903
Mommy!
999
01:02:19,489 --> 01:02:22,492
I just kinda grew up
with you not really being around.
1000
01:02:24,077 --> 01:02:27,748
It sounds kinda bad,
but I think the damage is already done.
1001
01:02:33,545 --> 01:02:35,005
Are you okay?
1002
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:37,966
Yeah?
1003
01:02:46,391 --> 01:02:48,560
[line ringing]
1004
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:51,104
[automated voice]
Your call has been forwarded
1005
01:02:51,188 --> 01:02:52,981
to an automatic voice message system.
1006
01:02:53,982 --> 01:02:57,402
[Lauren] I haven't gotten to talk
to him yet. He called Frank and...
1007
01:02:57,486 --> 01:02:59,988
Noah just got a perfect score on his ACT.
1008
01:03:02,824 --> 01:03:04,243
-[beeps]
-Hey, Noah, it's Mom.
1009
01:03:04,326 --> 01:03:06,703
Give me a call when you're out of class.
1010
01:03:06,787 --> 01:03:08,247
Okay, bye. Love you.
1011
01:03:11,416 --> 01:03:12,668
I think he's just happy.
1012
01:03:12,751 --> 01:03:16,380
He worked hard.
It's his achievement, you know?
1013
01:03:18,090 --> 01:03:21,093
He didn't even call me to tell me.
It's just, like, he's happy.
1014
01:03:31,144 --> 01:03:34,773
I've always thought that balance
was kind of overrated.
1015
01:03:34,857 --> 01:03:36,191
Shit!
1016
01:03:37,109 --> 01:03:38,235
Oh, fuck!
1017
01:03:39,111 --> 01:03:44,157
I'm often chasing my own obsessions
with as much adrenaline as my subjects.
1018
01:03:46,034 --> 01:03:50,873
Even though I wasn't going
for tons of money or the perfect body...
1019
01:03:51,540 --> 01:03:53,876
I was always looking for more and more.
1020
01:03:55,627 --> 01:03:59,047
I'm gonna be pretty wide,
so, get behind me, let's see.
1021
01:03:59,131 --> 01:04:00,883
Let's see how this works.
Okay, look at me...
1022
01:04:02,676 --> 01:04:05,012
You can look up like that,
like you were a second ago. Yeah.
1023
01:04:07,222 --> 01:04:09,141
Look up again, like you just were.
1024
01:04:10,225 --> 01:04:11,685
Beautiful.
1025
01:04:14,188 --> 01:04:16,398
[Cathy] I don't think
I'm meeting my fitness goals.
1026
01:04:17,524 --> 01:04:20,319
I would love to see this fixed.
I would love to...
1027
01:04:20,986 --> 01:04:22,529
see my thighs fixed.
1028
01:04:23,113 --> 01:04:25,199
My butt needs to be fixed.
1029
01:04:26,909 --> 01:04:31,413
[Lauren] I saw a similar addiction
among women with eating disorders.
1030
01:04:34,750 --> 01:04:39,171
[Chantelle] I would lose five pounds
and it still wasn't good enough.
1031
01:04:41,048 --> 01:04:44,092
And then I'd lose five more
and it still wasn't good enough.
1032
01:04:46,303 --> 01:04:49,473
[Mickie] The fame, it's such a rush.
1033
01:04:49,556 --> 01:04:52,684
You know, instant tweets
and instant posts, wow!
1034
01:04:53,685 --> 01:04:58,524
Every day I see dancers that are addicted
to the pole, to the pole money.
1035
01:05:00,734 --> 01:05:04,404
[Homm] Success becomes
its own perpetual vehicle.
1036
01:05:04,488 --> 01:05:07,658
You're part of this game
where the more, the better again.
1037
01:05:08,909 --> 01:05:11,578
And a billion is better than 100 million.
1038
01:05:12,246 --> 01:05:17,042
I was a hamster
in a diamond studded gold wheel.
1039
01:05:19,461 --> 01:05:21,547
[Tiffany] You sell your soul to the devil.
1040
01:05:22,881 --> 01:05:25,050
'Cause you get burned out so bad that
1041
01:05:25,133 --> 01:05:26,760
you just numb it...
1042
01:05:27,761 --> 01:05:30,931
where you don't feel the hand
on your ass anymore.
1043
01:05:31,765 --> 01:05:35,644
We detach and then
you put on the game again.
1044
01:05:36,353 --> 01:05:38,230
If not, it destroys you.
1045
01:05:39,398 --> 01:05:43,735
[Mikayla] There is this place that
is too far, and everyone ends up there.
1046
01:05:44,736 --> 01:05:47,739
When money is success,
1047
01:05:47,823 --> 01:05:50,117
it's impossible to not wanna keep going.
1048
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:51,577
Why wouldn't you?
1049
01:05:51,660 --> 01:05:54,788
'Cause if a lot is good, more is better.
1050
01:05:55,581 --> 01:05:59,001
[Homm]
You are trapped in your own ambition.
1051
01:05:59,084 --> 01:06:00,711
[female newscaster]
Right now, breaking news here,
1052
01:06:00,794 --> 01:06:03,922
stocks all around the world
are tanking because...
1053
01:06:04,006 --> 01:06:07,176
[Homm] Capital,
like any other resource in excess,
1054
01:06:07,259 --> 01:06:12,347
will cause utter social
and economic havoc.
1055
01:06:22,441 --> 01:06:25,736
[Lauren] When the financial crash
of 2008 happened,
1056
01:06:26,403 --> 01:06:29,615
it felt like a global tsunami
of devastation.
1057
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,581
There were eerily similar scenes
1058
01:06:38,081 --> 01:06:40,709
in all the places hardest hit,
1059
01:06:41,376 --> 01:06:42,586
which I followed.
1060
01:06:46,924 --> 01:06:49,051
And what about your house?
1061
01:06:49,134 --> 01:06:50,844
[man] We are in foreclosure.
1062
01:06:51,762 --> 01:06:56,058
[Lauren] And what's it like as a man,
as the breadwinner, to go through this?
1063
01:06:56,141 --> 01:06:57,226
Degrading.
1064
01:06:57,309 --> 01:07:01,104
You know, after trying so hard
to keep something you love so much.
1065
01:07:02,648 --> 01:07:04,525
And then they wanna come in and take it.
1066
01:07:17,371 --> 01:07:19,081
I was just... [crying softly]
1067
01:07:19,164 --> 01:07:22,668
I was just trying to make a home
for me and my daughter.
1068
01:07:23,335 --> 01:07:25,462
That's all I was trying to do.
1069
01:07:28,382 --> 01:07:31,677
[Lauren] When even
David and Jackie Siegel's dream home
1070
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:33,554
ended up with a fetid pool
1071
01:07:33,637 --> 01:07:35,264
and facing foreclosure...
1072
01:07:36,723 --> 01:07:42,229
for me it was almost like a symbol
of our collective greed and its price.
1073
01:07:45,566 --> 01:07:50,696
[Homm] In my path to fairly
quick wealth, that made some enemies.
1074
01:07:50,779 --> 01:07:53,073
I would get a threat or a lawsuit, I said,
1075
01:07:53,156 --> 01:07:59,371
"Take a ticket, walk to position 134
in the line. Fuck off!"
1076
01:08:01,373 --> 01:08:03,500
There were allegations against me.
1077
01:08:04,251 --> 01:08:08,046
They basically said I've conspired
to defraud.
1078
01:08:08,130 --> 01:08:13,218
Our CIO, Florian Homm, resigned
unexpectedly in a rather dramatic way.
1079
01:08:13,302 --> 01:08:15,721
[woman]
Florian Homm absconded to Colombia.
1080
01:08:15,804 --> 01:08:21,018
The SEC alleges that he defrauded
investors out of about $200 million.
1081
01:08:21,101 --> 01:08:24,730
I packed up a few things
and I found my way to Colombia.
1082
01:08:24,813 --> 01:08:26,815
[Lauren]
Tell me about packing up a few things.
1083
01:08:26,899 --> 01:08:29,443
You know, the euro bills are so compact,
1084
01:08:29,526 --> 01:08:32,446
500 euros--
that's almost a 700-dollar bill.
1085
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:36,992
And you can literally pack
half a million bucks on you
1086
01:08:37,075 --> 01:08:41,371
and you have these elastic bands,
which in your Calvin Klein underwear...
1087
01:08:41,455 --> 01:08:44,541
And you can stuff them there
and they really pad you
1088
01:08:44,625 --> 01:08:46,335
in your, well, genital area.
1089
01:08:47,211 --> 01:08:50,547
At the time I was very attached
to money still, literally.
1090
01:08:54,426 --> 01:08:57,346
Well, after five years on the lam,
Florian Homm finally nabbed.
1091
01:08:57,429 --> 01:09:01,600
He faces four counts of conspiracy,
wire fraud and security fraud.
1092
01:09:02,226 --> 01:09:05,938
American justice had me arrested in Italy.
1093
01:09:06,021 --> 01:09:10,817
I end up in Florence prison
in a cell of 20-square yards
1094
01:09:11,568 --> 01:09:14,905
with mentally deranged violent criminals.
1095
01:09:15,906 --> 01:09:18,408
I felt horrible...
1096
01:09:19,159 --> 01:09:20,536
abandoned...
1097
01:09:20,619 --> 01:09:22,287
completely abandoned.
1098
01:09:26,333 --> 01:09:28,877
I was completely estranged
from my children.
1099
01:09:29,837 --> 01:09:33,590
So, if the provider no longer provides,
what's his purpose?
1100
01:09:34,758 --> 01:09:36,009
What's my purpose?
1101
01:09:38,679 --> 01:09:44,017
As a kid who came from a rock star family,
who had every advantage,
1102
01:09:44,726 --> 01:09:46,395
I just kinda like--
1103
01:09:46,478 --> 01:09:49,314
I shouldn't even try.
I'm never gonna get here.
1104
01:09:49,398 --> 01:09:53,694
So, why try to get here,
because that's not good enough.
1105
01:09:53,777 --> 01:09:57,447
You know what I mean? I'm not a rock star.
I'm a bartender, I'm a server.
1106
01:09:57,531 --> 01:10:00,993
I'm a whatever job I had to,
you know, get by.
1107
01:10:01,660 --> 01:10:06,331
I had to numb just to be able
to deal with the mundane life.
1108
01:10:06,415 --> 01:10:09,960
I definitely didn't set out
to become addicted to, you know,
1109
01:10:10,043 --> 01:10:11,587
pretty hard opiates.
1110
01:10:11,670 --> 01:10:14,548
And for, like, two or three months,
I started smoking crack.
1111
01:10:15,340 --> 01:10:17,426
You know, I'd do any type of painkiller,
1112
01:10:17,509 --> 01:10:20,804
and those kinda make you feel
warm and fuzzy.
1113
01:10:21,013 --> 01:10:24,016
I used to say it was like the hug
I never got as a kid kinda thing.
1114
01:10:29,605 --> 01:10:35,986
"Legacy. Some days I wear legacy.
Like a weight, too big a burden to bear.
1115
01:10:36,445 --> 01:10:39,239
Like something that's just out of reach.
1116
01:10:39,323 --> 01:10:41,658
Legacy is how I run some days,
1117
01:10:41,742 --> 01:10:44,703
trying to keep up
with my family's achievements.
1118
01:10:44,786 --> 01:10:50,751
Legacy is my brother getting
a perfect ACT score, 36 out of 36.
1119
01:10:50,834 --> 01:10:52,794
And I remember crying that night
1120
01:10:52,878 --> 01:10:56,882
because I didn't know if I would be able
to get such a good score
1121
01:10:56,965 --> 01:10:59,885
and wondering if my parents
would still be proud of me.
1122
01:11:00,594 --> 01:11:05,265
Some days, legacy haunts me.
Like an idea that's stuck in your brain.
1123
01:11:05,349 --> 01:11:07,684
And no matter how much you try
and ignore it,
1124
01:11:07,768 --> 01:11:09,686
it never gets out of your head.
1125
01:11:09,770 --> 01:11:12,105
Legacy is my life."
1126
01:11:12,189 --> 01:11:15,484
[laughs] Very good!
1127
01:11:15,567 --> 01:11:17,444
That's great. Wow.
1128
01:11:18,070 --> 01:11:19,738
[Lauren] You wrote that today?
1129
01:11:20,948 --> 01:11:22,449
Yeah, I did.
1130
01:11:22,533 --> 01:11:24,826
How did you feel the pressure of legacy?
1131
01:11:26,537 --> 01:11:28,580
[Noah]
Because both my parents went to Harvard.
1132
01:11:31,792 --> 01:11:33,627
You're such a weirdo!
1133
01:11:33,710 --> 01:11:35,379
[Lauren giggles]
1134
01:11:36,046 --> 01:11:37,464
Dad, do you see this?
1135
01:11:38,882 --> 01:11:40,217
[Lauren] Why do you feel the pressure?
1136
01:11:41,343 --> 01:11:43,595
-[Frank] Why do you feel the pressure?
-I'm asking Noah.
1137
01:11:43,679 --> 01:11:45,138
[Frank]
Why do you feel the pressure of legacy?
1138
01:11:45,222 --> 01:11:47,140
I don't want Noah to feel
the pressure of legacy.
1139
01:11:47,224 --> 01:11:49,017
[Frank]
But why have you acted like someone
1140
01:11:49,101 --> 01:11:51,019
who's had enormous pressure
of legacy on you?
1141
01:11:51,728 --> 01:11:55,482
I had that too with my parents.
My parents went to Harvard too.
1142
01:12:00,904 --> 01:12:02,823
And do you think I was a happy child?
1143
01:12:04,366 --> 01:12:06,535
-Do you think you were a happy child?
-[Lauren] I don't know,
1144
01:12:06,618 --> 01:12:09,121
I remember a lot of anxieties
and insecurities.
1145
01:12:09,204 --> 01:12:12,374
-Really? What kind?
-[Lauren] Just...
1146
01:12:12,958 --> 01:12:16,295
I don't know, I think probably coming
from divorce and...
1147
01:12:16,378 --> 01:12:17,379
[Patricia] Mm-hmm.
1148
01:12:17,462 --> 01:12:20,507
[Lauren] You know, maybe your being away.
I don't know.
1149
01:12:20,591 --> 01:12:23,427
But I just always remember being anxious.
1150
01:12:23,510 --> 01:12:25,304
[Patricia] Hmm. Mm-hmm.
1151
01:12:28,098 --> 01:12:29,808
[Lauren] What do you remember?
1152
01:12:31,101 --> 01:12:33,145
Okay, let me actually go back.
1153
01:12:34,980 --> 01:12:38,567
When I had you, I had a PhD,
1154
01:12:38,650 --> 01:12:43,280
I was a graduate student in culture
and human development.
1155
01:12:44,656 --> 01:12:46,658
The women's movement was just starting.
1156
01:12:46,742 --> 01:12:48,619
[protesters chanting]
1157
01:12:49,578 --> 01:12:53,290
I suddenly realized that I was doing
all of the childcare.
1158
01:12:53,373 --> 01:12:58,378
My career was going down the tubes.
Your dad was just focusing on his career.
1159
01:12:59,379 --> 01:13:04,635
We decided to separate, and I knew
I wouldn't lose touch with you,
1160
01:13:04,718 --> 01:13:10,098
if I wasn't with you five days a week
and I was just with you on the weekends.
1161
01:13:10,182 --> 01:13:12,684
[Lauren] Let's just talk about the fact
that you got a job
1162
01:13:12,768 --> 01:13:15,687
in another city from Dad
and we lived with Dad.
1163
01:13:16,188 --> 01:13:20,025
He wanted to be physically close to you
most of the time
1164
01:13:20,108 --> 01:13:25,614
and in general, mothers don't need to
be close to their children geographically
1165
01:13:25,697 --> 01:13:29,284
to keep the attachment
and the relationship.
1166
01:13:29,368 --> 01:13:33,413
I understand years later
that you felt abandoned, but, you know,
1167
01:13:33,497 --> 01:13:37,167
and that's understandable
'cause we had been very close.
1168
01:13:38,460 --> 01:13:41,129
[Lauren] And did you come to visit us
every weekend?
1169
01:13:41,213 --> 01:13:47,177
[Patricia] No, you traveled to Santa Cruz
every weekend with Mathew on the plane.
1170
01:13:47,261 --> 01:13:50,472
[Lauren] Was that unusual at the time
for a five-year-old and a seven-year-old
1171
01:13:50,556 --> 01:13:52,099
to be traveling alone?
1172
01:14:02,526 --> 01:14:06,154
I had a very, very tortured relationship
with my mother.
1173
01:14:06,238 --> 01:14:08,824
My mother didn't work,
her priorities were different,
1174
01:14:08,907 --> 01:14:10,534
we always had tons of help
1175
01:14:10,617 --> 01:14:14,788
and people other than my mother
taking care of us,
1176
01:14:14,872 --> 01:14:16,832
even though she didn't work.
1177
01:14:17,291 --> 01:14:19,501
[Lauren]
So you wanna be different than she was?
1178
01:14:19,585 --> 01:14:22,713
I think when you go through the journey
that I went through to become a mother,
1179
01:14:22,796 --> 01:14:24,965
you embrace every aspect of it.
1180
01:14:25,048 --> 01:14:27,759
Anytime I would tell her anything,
she would freak out, so,
1181
01:14:27,843 --> 01:14:29,595
I started having contractions
early in the morning
1182
01:14:29,678 --> 01:14:32,222
and I text her and I'm like,
"Don't panic, but..."
1183
01:14:32,306 --> 01:14:36,310
Of course, I panicked.
She came three-and-a-half months early.
1184
01:14:36,393 --> 01:14:39,646
I had left the labor delivery room
and I went out to the hallway
1185
01:14:39,730 --> 01:14:41,607
and was really kind of losing it.
1186
01:14:41,690 --> 01:14:44,568
The doctor came out and said, "You gotta
come right now, we're having a baby."
1187
01:14:44,651 --> 01:14:46,445
You know, I remember looking at him
and saying,
1188
01:14:46,528 --> 01:14:48,071
"Where did you go to medical school?"
1189
01:14:48,822 --> 01:14:51,742
And he told me where and I was like,
"That doesn't work for me."
1190
01:14:51,825 --> 01:14:54,661
To his credit, he looked at me and said,
"Lady, I'm all you got right now."
1191
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:58,624
And then around 1:00, 2:00 in the morning,
our water burst.
1192
01:14:58,707 --> 01:15:02,628
It was over and, you know, they grab her.
I mean, she was the size of my hand.
1193
01:15:03,962 --> 01:15:05,839
And they grab her
and they put her on a table
1194
01:15:05,923 --> 01:15:07,382
and they put them in a plastic bag
1195
01:15:07,466 --> 01:15:09,468
and there was a team
of ten people around her,
1196
01:15:09,551 --> 01:15:11,887
so you can't even see what's going on.
1197
01:15:11,970 --> 01:15:13,388
And I just remember being...
1198
01:15:14,681 --> 01:15:16,683
absolutely terrified.
1199
01:15:18,435 --> 01:15:20,145
'Cause they prepare you for the worst.
1200
01:15:23,524 --> 01:15:25,734
I wanted her more than anything
in the world.
1201
01:15:40,874 --> 01:15:44,962
After the Charlie Sheen media blowout,
the-- the scandal...
1202
01:15:46,421 --> 01:15:51,760
I was constantly getting followed,
like a normal celebrity probably would.
1203
01:15:52,803 --> 01:15:54,680
I started feeling really bad.
1204
01:15:54,763 --> 01:15:56,682
[paparazzi clamoring]
1205
01:15:56,765 --> 01:15:58,725
[Kacey] This is like a lifestyle
that maybe I would've wanted
1206
01:15:58,809 --> 01:16:03,647
but the fame, it did more,
like, long-term damage to me
1207
01:16:03,730 --> 01:16:05,774
than I thought it could.
1208
01:16:05,858 --> 01:16:08,735
[sobbing]
1209
01:16:08,819 --> 01:16:10,195
[man] Hey, you okay?
1210
01:16:10,279 --> 01:16:12,531
-I can't do it.
-[man] You can do it.
1211
01:16:13,073 --> 01:16:15,826
-Well, you're doing good so far.
-[man] You're doing good.
1212
01:16:15,909 --> 01:16:17,160
[crying]
1213
01:16:17,244 --> 01:16:20,163
-[man] You're doing fine.
-[woman] You're doing good.
1214
01:16:20,247 --> 01:16:21,248
No.
1215
01:16:21,331 --> 01:16:24,334
What's she doing?
Oh, she tries to kill herself.
1216
01:16:24,418 --> 01:16:27,921
This is alprazolam, aka Xanax.
1217
01:16:28,005 --> 01:16:29,882
This is Advil PM.
1218
01:16:31,300 --> 01:16:32,926
Let's watch me die.
1219
01:16:44,688 --> 01:16:45,772
[sniffs]
1220
01:16:45,856 --> 01:16:46,940
Bye.
1221
01:16:53,530 --> 01:16:55,908
-[sirens wailing in distance]
-I wanted to reinvent myself.
1222
01:16:55,991 --> 01:16:59,077
I needed surgery
just to make myself feel better.
1223
01:17:00,370 --> 01:17:01,788
I started off with my boobs.
1224
01:17:02,623 --> 01:17:04,917
I did three nose jobs.
1225
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:08,629
Another reason for the bigger boobs
and the different me
1226
01:17:08,712 --> 01:17:12,883
was because the fetishes
were generally like me being underage.
1227
01:17:12,966 --> 01:17:16,720
It's rare for a grown adult like me,
a woman ,
1228
01:17:16,803 --> 01:17:20,057
to have a body of, like, a 14-year-old.
1229
01:17:20,140 --> 01:17:22,100
That was why it sold so much.
1230
01:17:22,184 --> 01:17:26,063
I've become this, like, new persona
that I've created, Daveney.
1231
01:17:26,772 --> 01:17:28,982
That was like my way
of kinda finally growing up.
1232
01:17:30,025 --> 01:17:31,109
Speaking of...
1233
01:17:32,319 --> 01:17:33,946
The morning sickness.
1234
01:17:34,029 --> 01:17:35,030
[exhales]
1235
01:17:35,113 --> 01:17:36,490
Okay.
1236
01:17:37,115 --> 01:17:38,992
I'm actually pregnant now.
1237
01:17:39,076 --> 01:17:41,119
It's my 11th time.
1238
01:17:42,037 --> 01:17:45,874
But I think it's a good time,
so, I'm deciding to go through with it
1239
01:17:45,958 --> 01:17:49,002
and I just decided that on Sunday.
1240
01:17:49,086 --> 01:17:50,087
Yesterday.
1241
01:17:50,170 --> 01:17:51,922
[laughs] Yeah.
1242
01:18:02,599 --> 01:18:06,937
[Cathy] Immediately after Brazil,
I was never comfortable financially.
1243
01:18:08,397 --> 01:18:11,608
I was just thinking,
how do I pick up normal life,
1244
01:18:11,692 --> 01:18:15,070
keep them in school
and find ways to pay off this debt?
1245
01:18:15,153 --> 01:18:17,447
[Lauren] And were you working full time
as a bus driver the whole time?
1246
01:18:17,531 --> 01:18:18,532
Yes, yes.
1247
01:18:18,615 --> 01:18:20,868
[Lauren] So, why didn't you have
enough money if you had a full-time job?
1248
01:18:20,951 --> 01:18:22,244
Because they don't pay!
1249
01:18:23,495 --> 01:18:28,125
Money, dollars, dinero is what it takes.
1250
01:18:28,208 --> 01:18:29,334
[sighs]
1251
01:18:30,210 --> 01:18:33,422
My parents supplemented some
of my monthly budget
1252
01:18:33,505 --> 01:18:35,340
and after I'd had the surgery...
1253
01:18:36,884 --> 01:18:40,137
I couldn't have asked them
to keep paying for how we live
1254
01:18:40,220 --> 01:18:42,639
when I went and got this thing,
which could seem to be a luxury.
1255
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:45,225
[Lauren]
And how long did you live in the car?
1256
01:18:45,309 --> 01:18:47,227
[Cathy] I can't even count how long.
1257
01:18:47,311 --> 01:18:50,439
You don't tally it along the way.
You will go crazy.
1258
01:18:50,522 --> 01:18:52,357
My mother had wanted custody.
1259
01:18:52,441 --> 01:18:55,027
She knew that I couldn't pay my rent
in 2008.
1260
01:18:55,444 --> 01:18:57,613
I never wanted to surrender my children,
1261
01:18:57,696 --> 01:18:59,990
but I didn't have enough money
to keep them.
1262
01:19:02,201 --> 01:19:05,996
I know that if I had gotten
my crap together with more money...
1263
01:19:07,206 --> 01:19:08,832
she wouldn't be dead.
1264
01:19:08,916 --> 01:19:11,919
She wasn't just a self-destructive girl.
She was a good child.
1265
01:19:12,628 --> 01:19:15,255
And sometimes I think,
"Oh, Jas wants to come visit"...
1266
01:19:16,590 --> 01:19:17,674
for a minute.
1267
01:19:24,181 --> 01:19:26,225
It's in my CD changer in the car.
1268
01:19:26,308 --> 01:19:28,602
Sometimes I'll forget or get distracted
1269
01:19:28,685 --> 01:19:32,481
and the CD will turn over
and I hear the 911 call.
1270
01:19:34,775 --> 01:19:37,611
[dispatcher] Fairfax County 911,
where is your emergency?
1271
01:19:37,694 --> 01:19:43,534
[man] My emergency-- my granddaughter,
she was drunk, I was taking her home.
1272
01:19:43,617 --> 01:19:47,329
She-- The car was going at about 30 miles
an hour and she jumped out the back seat.
1273
01:19:47,412 --> 01:19:49,289
She opened the door...
1274
01:19:49,373 --> 01:19:52,960
[Cathy] The same place I birthed her
was the same place I saw her die.
1275
01:19:53,043 --> 01:19:56,213
[steady beeping]
1276
01:19:56,296 --> 01:19:59,758
They had just removed the ventilator...
1277
01:20:00,384 --> 01:20:01,927
and I could sit with her.
1278
01:20:02,386 --> 01:20:03,887
I told her I'm sorry.
1279
01:20:05,013 --> 01:20:08,642
I apologized. I told her I was sorry
that I couldn't protect her more.
1280
01:20:12,437 --> 01:20:14,106
And I had to go on living.
1281
01:20:22,281 --> 01:20:24,700
[Homm] I remember a long time ago...
1282
01:20:25,742 --> 01:20:29,288
my wife and I,
we were in the most posh harbor
1283
01:20:29,371 --> 01:20:32,291
in the Balearic Islands
in the Mediterranean.
1284
01:20:32,875 --> 01:20:35,794
And there were plenty of boats,
30, 40, 50 million, some of them for sale.
1285
01:20:36,962 --> 01:20:38,338
And then we sat down for dinner.
1286
01:20:38,422 --> 01:20:41,800
I said, "This one? This one? This one?
Or this one?"
1287
01:20:45,095 --> 01:20:46,346
[sniffles]
1288
01:20:52,978 --> 01:20:54,396
That woman said...
1289
01:20:55,355 --> 01:20:56,648
"Turn off your phone.
1290
01:20:57,816 --> 01:21:00,402
That's all I want. Nice dinner."
1291
01:21:05,199 --> 01:21:09,077
And it takes a long trip...
1292
01:21:10,913 --> 01:21:12,247
to come back...
1293
01:21:13,081 --> 01:21:14,374
to what matters.
1294
01:21:14,458 --> 01:21:15,542
The other stuff...
1295
01:21:18,837 --> 01:21:22,049
It's a delusion.
It's a-- it's a bullshit game.
1296
01:21:30,057 --> 01:21:34,019
All of us are following a toxic dream.
1297
01:21:35,062 --> 01:21:36,647
What you're sold
1298
01:21:37,731 --> 01:21:42,194
in this world is a bag of rotten goods.
1299
01:21:57,626 --> 01:22:00,796
[Hedges] At the end of a decayed culture,
1300
01:22:02,214 --> 01:22:06,927
we retreat
into our own comforting illusions.
1301
01:22:12,558 --> 01:22:13,559
[shutter clicks]
1302
01:22:14,601 --> 01:22:18,605
We build walls to cope
with the reality around us.
1303
01:22:18,689 --> 01:22:19,898
[audience cheering]
1304
01:22:20,607 --> 01:22:23,318
It's not about me.
It's about you, believe me.
1305
01:22:25,779 --> 01:22:31,076
[Lil Magic] People have a hard time
separating reality from entertainment,
1306
01:22:31,159 --> 01:22:33,120
because there is a line.
1307
01:22:33,203 --> 01:22:35,414
It's a thick line. It's not a thin one.
1308
01:22:36,957 --> 01:22:42,171
[Hedges] Corporate capitalism pushes
people towards this constant search
1309
01:22:42,254 --> 01:22:45,674
-for the next adrenaline rush.
-[dance music playing]
1310
01:22:45,757 --> 01:22:48,719
People seek that momentary ecstasy
1311
01:22:48,802 --> 01:22:51,263
to escape from a darker
and darker reality.
1312
01:22:51,346 --> 01:22:53,515
The population is diverted,
1313
01:22:53,599 --> 01:22:58,187
sexual hedonism predominates
throughout the society.
1314
01:22:58,896 --> 01:23:01,064
We are dying in the same way
that other empires
1315
01:23:01,148 --> 01:23:03,984
-have died throughout history.
-[gunfire]
1316
01:23:04,067 --> 01:23:07,321
The difference is that this time
when we go down,
1317
01:23:07,404 --> 01:23:09,823
the whole planet's gonna go with us.
1318
01:23:19,374 --> 01:23:21,668
[Valbjörn]
Maybe I wanted to be in the big palace
1319
01:23:21,752 --> 01:23:24,213
where all the fancy people were.
1320
01:23:25,589 --> 01:23:27,299
But in the end when you see it,
1321
01:23:27,382 --> 01:23:29,676
it was just air.
1322
01:23:30,802 --> 01:23:33,263
In the boom,
I worked in the banking business.
1323
01:23:33,931 --> 01:23:36,433
And then it all collapsed in Iceland,
1324
01:23:36,517 --> 01:23:38,018
and I was sacked.
1325
01:23:38,727 --> 01:23:40,145
My boss said,
1326
01:23:40,229 --> 01:23:43,565
"You're not allowed to go back
to your desk. Thank you."
1327
01:23:44,566 --> 01:23:48,153
Now for me to go from the bank to the sea,
1328
01:23:48,695 --> 01:23:52,574
I have gone in a circle.
I start where I began.
1329
01:23:52,658 --> 01:23:55,661
The people go backwards to their roots...
1330
01:23:55,744 --> 01:23:58,080
the family, the children, friends.
1331
01:23:58,872 --> 01:24:01,708
-[boy] Oh!
-[Valbjörn chuckles]
1332
01:24:01,792 --> 01:24:03,877
[Valbjörn]
That's the good thing about collapse.
1333
01:24:03,961 --> 01:24:05,629
[boy in Icelandic] Oh, my God.
1334
01:24:07,589 --> 01:24:09,091
[Valbjörn] You cut right there.
1335
01:24:09,174 --> 01:24:10,509
[boy] Disgusting!
1336
01:24:11,468 --> 01:24:13,929
[both speaking Icelandic]
1337
01:24:14,012 --> 01:24:15,848
[boy] I don't want to see this.
This is disgusting.
1338
01:24:15,931 --> 01:24:17,182
[Valbjörn] This is life.
1339
01:24:23,021 --> 01:24:25,232
I want to fish another fish.
1340
01:24:29,194 --> 01:24:31,113
[Valbjörn in English]
What I've learned is be more
1341
01:24:31,196 --> 01:24:33,031
with the people that you love.
1342
01:24:33,657 --> 01:24:37,494
That's the most valuable
that you can get in the world.
1343
01:24:39,580 --> 01:24:41,832
Lord, thank you for this day.
Thank you for everything you've given us.
1344
01:24:41,915 --> 01:24:44,585
Bless this food and bless this family
in Jesus' name. Amen.
1345
01:24:44,668 --> 01:24:45,711
[all] Amen.
1346
01:24:46,420 --> 01:24:50,465
[Lauren] When we talked in 1995,
you predicted you would be a millionaire.
1347
01:24:50,549 --> 01:24:52,467
[Cliff]
I did, and you know what's so funny?
1348
01:24:52,551 --> 01:24:54,720
When we were gonna do this, I was like,
1349
01:24:54,803 --> 01:24:59,224
"You know what, I told her that
I was gonna have $20 million...
1350
01:25:00,434 --> 01:25:03,520
on-hand cash and another
$100 million in the bank."
1351
01:25:03,604 --> 01:25:04,980
[Lauren] So, did it happen?
1352
01:25:06,440 --> 01:25:08,775
No, not-- not at this moment.
1353
01:25:08,859 --> 01:25:11,904
I believe that the dream,
it's different now.
1354
01:25:13,822 --> 01:25:18,035
Success is showing my children
what a strong father looks like,
1355
01:25:18,118 --> 01:25:20,329
what a work ethic looks like.
1356
01:25:21,205 --> 01:25:22,956
He taught me that
just 'cause you have money
1357
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:25,417
doesn't mean you're, like, all that.
1358
01:25:25,501 --> 01:25:28,754
A nice watch or a nice car
isn't gonna get you to college.
1359
01:25:28,837 --> 01:25:31,006
It's what you know, not what you have.
1360
01:25:31,715 --> 01:25:36,428
[Cliff] My daughter, she got a full-ride
scholarship to Cornell University.
1361
01:25:36,512 --> 01:25:37,721
She's a genius.
1362
01:25:37,804 --> 01:25:40,390
I have the big red Cornell sweater
right now. I wear it every day.
1363
01:25:40,474 --> 01:25:41,725
[chuckles] I wear it around the house.
1364
01:25:41,808 --> 01:25:45,521
I would love to see all of them
go to college.
1365
01:25:45,604 --> 01:25:47,648
That's the true American dream.
1366
01:25:52,069 --> 01:25:56,532
[Courtney] I wanted to come back home to
Oregon so I can make amends with my family
1367
01:25:56,615 --> 01:26:02,329
and go through with the pregnancy,
but I lost the child.
1368
01:26:02,412 --> 01:26:05,499
You know, it's really hard
to kind of bounce back from that.
1369
01:26:05,582 --> 01:26:10,045
This whole year I've definitely felt
myself wanting to stop and change--
1370
01:26:10,128 --> 01:26:11,630
change the career path.
1371
01:26:11,713 --> 01:26:13,882
I work at Tan Republic,
1372
01:26:13,966 --> 01:26:17,344
-which is the job that I had at 14.
-[indistinct]
1373
01:26:17,427 --> 01:26:19,680
It's very difficult going back
to minimum wage
1374
01:26:19,763 --> 01:26:22,474
from what I've made
these past eight, nine years.
1375
01:26:24,059 --> 01:26:25,686
There was a couple overdoses
1376
01:26:25,769 --> 01:26:29,189
and I had over a million dollars
in medical bills.
1377
01:26:29,273 --> 01:26:32,359
I declared bankruptcy
just to start over fresh.
1378
01:26:34,945 --> 01:26:40,117
Now anything porn or complete nudity,
I'm completely retired from that.
1379
01:26:41,743 --> 01:26:43,745
I really wanted to be me again.
1380
01:26:44,454 --> 01:26:50,127
I thought maybe Courtney was lost
amongst all the previous scandals
1381
01:26:50,210 --> 01:26:52,045
and my films.
1382
01:26:52,129 --> 01:26:54,548
And I feel like finally once again...
1383
01:26:56,216 --> 01:27:00,137
I can really, really start off with
being Courtney again.
1384
01:27:03,891 --> 01:27:06,226
[mooing]
1385
01:27:07,186 --> 01:27:11,648
On any journey, you sometimes
have to go back and find your roots,
1386
01:27:11,732 --> 01:27:15,110
and that's kind of what we've done
in the last two years.
1387
01:27:15,194 --> 01:27:17,988
-It was time to take a break.
-[dog barking]
1388
01:27:20,199 --> 01:27:24,912
We aren't, like,
doing that reality TV show, we're just...
1389
01:27:25,913 --> 01:27:27,039
being normal right now.
1390
01:27:28,624 --> 01:27:32,169
[Mickie] Eden had been a winner
at everything she's ever done
1391
01:27:32,252 --> 01:27:34,671
and I feel like the door just went...
1392
01:27:34,755 --> 01:27:39,092
It was a new scenario because
up until that point, it had been just...
1393
01:27:39,176 --> 01:27:40,260
[snapping]
1394
01:27:41,887 --> 01:27:44,932
You've got this child
that is extremely talented...
1395
01:27:46,517 --> 01:27:51,939
but you're so hungry for it,
you're blinded by that proverbial carrot
1396
01:27:52,022 --> 01:27:53,607
that's dangled out there.
1397
01:27:54,483 --> 01:27:55,692
You're just a commodity.
1398
01:27:56,443 --> 01:27:58,946
It's what the American people want to see.
1399
01:27:59,029 --> 01:28:02,324
They get off work, they wanna turn
that clicker on and, you know:
1400
01:28:02,407 --> 01:28:04,201
"Oh, ooh, ah," you know, whatever.
1401
01:28:04,910 --> 01:28:06,745
I didn't like who I had become.
1402
01:28:06,828 --> 01:28:09,039
I didn't like that other people
1403
01:28:09,122 --> 01:28:13,001
had been able to accomplish ugly things
1404
01:28:13,085 --> 01:28:16,463
through me in Eden's life.
1405
01:28:19,758 --> 01:28:21,802
I mean, major mistakes.
1406
01:28:22,845 --> 01:28:24,888
Would I do it all again? I think I would.
1407
01:28:25,639 --> 01:28:28,559
I think I would. I--
I really don't even have to think about it
1408
01:28:28,642 --> 01:28:33,981
because I wouldn't have had the awakening
and the knowledge any other way.
1409
01:28:38,652 --> 01:28:40,904
[Homm] I was imprisoned for 15 months
1410
01:28:41,780 --> 01:28:43,198
without a trial.
1411
01:28:44,783 --> 01:28:46,410
And they let me go.
1412
01:28:47,828 --> 01:28:49,580
He was the luckiest man in the world.
1413
01:28:49,663 --> 01:28:53,542
He avoided getting extradited
and facing a 225-year criminal sentence.
1414
01:28:54,042 --> 01:28:58,964
[Homm] They put me on a list,
with the likes of Osama bin Laden.
1415
01:29:00,007 --> 01:29:02,968
It was a global arrest warrant.
1416
01:29:06,722 --> 01:29:09,433
But I'm completely legally here in Germany
1417
01:29:09,516 --> 01:29:13,020
and I cannot be extradited
by the Americans.
1418
01:29:13,854 --> 01:29:17,733
So, I'm living in a very big,
beautiful prison called Germany.
1419
01:29:20,110 --> 01:29:24,156
If you think that money
1420
01:29:24,239 --> 01:29:27,868
will buy you anything and everything...
1421
01:29:29,286 --> 01:29:32,289
you have never, ever, ever had money.
1422
01:29:33,498 --> 01:29:38,545
Because I can't buy that smile
on my daughter's or my son's face
1423
01:29:38,629 --> 01:29:43,425
and I can't buy the love in bed
of my wife.
1424
01:29:45,135 --> 01:29:46,470
I can't.
1425
01:29:47,262 --> 01:29:49,431
[Lauren] You think he learned a lesson
from being in jail?
1426
01:29:51,099 --> 01:29:52,392
[sighs]
1427
01:29:54,937 --> 01:29:56,897
I feel like a lot of his regrets
1428
01:29:56,980 --> 01:29:59,775
are that he kept pushing it
to the point where he fell,
1429
01:29:59,858 --> 01:30:03,153
and he just wishes that he had not fallen.
1430
01:30:03,779 --> 01:30:06,532
Yeah, I'm still a little--
1431
01:30:06,615 --> 01:30:09,451
I'm still not sure how I feel about
everything regarding my father.
1432
01:30:13,205 --> 01:30:18,293
Three days after the birth, I went home.
Suzanne was there for almost two months.
1433
01:30:19,837 --> 01:30:21,213
She was very tiny.
1434
01:30:23,924 --> 01:30:25,425
She did really well though.
1435
01:30:26,552 --> 01:30:27,928
[Suzanne] I got the prize.
1436
01:30:29,429 --> 01:30:33,642
You know, she's here and she's happy
and healthy and smiling and, you know,
1437
01:30:33,725 --> 01:30:35,727
a terrific little kid and I...
1438
01:30:36,228 --> 01:30:38,772
So, it doesn't matter anymore
how I got here. I'm here.
1439
01:30:40,732 --> 01:30:44,695
That experience changed me
so dramatically.
1440
01:30:45,279 --> 01:30:48,365
But my ex-husband left six weeks after
I brought her home from the hospital.
1441
01:30:49,366 --> 01:30:52,244
I mean, he's now with somebody
40 years younger than he is.
1442
01:30:52,327 --> 01:30:56,623
You know, I-- I don't know how you can
be 70, married to a 30-year-old.
1443
01:30:58,792 --> 01:31:00,794
No, that's backwards.
You gotta put it forwards.
1444
01:31:00,878 --> 01:31:02,171
Remember, move the lever.
1445
01:31:02,254 --> 01:31:04,798
-All right, now try.
-Watch out, guys.
1446
01:31:04,882 --> 01:31:07,259
I think she knows not to touch the art.
1447
01:31:08,385 --> 01:31:09,469
Wait, stop!
1448
01:31:13,765 --> 01:31:16,852
-[Lauren] Have your priorities changed?
-[Suzanne] Yeah, there's no question.
1449
01:31:18,979 --> 01:31:20,189
All right, off we go.
1450
01:31:20,272 --> 01:31:24,443
How I spend money, right?
A lot less art, a lot more ballet.
1451
01:31:24,526 --> 01:31:27,279
Or piano or...
1452
01:31:28,322 --> 01:31:30,449
front-row tickets
to the Gazillion Bubbles Show.
1453
01:31:30,532 --> 01:31:33,952
I am not working as hard
as I have over the years.
1454
01:31:34,036 --> 01:31:36,747
You know, I take Sydney B. to school
every day. I pick her up.
1455
01:31:37,664 --> 01:31:39,583
In fact,
the activities I don't take her to
1456
01:31:39,666 --> 01:31:42,085
is just where there's no value added
to me being there.
1457
01:31:42,169 --> 01:31:45,839
[Lauren] And how are your priorities
different than your mother's?
1458
01:31:50,260 --> 01:31:52,471
I don't know that I can answer
that question.
1459
01:31:55,682 --> 01:31:58,435
The last real contact I had
with my mother, I was...
1460
01:31:59,144 --> 01:32:00,437
22 years old.
1461
01:32:01,772 --> 01:32:03,607
So, even if I knew,
I don't think I would know.
1462
01:32:03,690 --> 01:32:05,400
I mean, what do you know at 22?
1463
01:32:06,318 --> 01:32:08,737
[Lauren] And did you resolve with her
before she passed away?
1464
01:32:08,820 --> 01:32:09,905
No.
1465
01:32:16,411 --> 01:32:18,830
-Delicious.
-I'm feeding you, Mommy.
1466
01:32:21,708 --> 01:32:24,920
[Lauren] Do you have any regrets
about how you raised your children?
1467
01:32:26,380 --> 01:32:28,924
[chuckles] About how I raised my children?
1468
01:32:36,014 --> 01:32:37,683
That's a really hard question.
1469
01:32:52,322 --> 01:32:55,951
I wish I had known
you felt abandoned sooner,
1470
01:32:56,034 --> 01:32:59,580
'cause I think that we could've
talked about it, opened--
1471
01:32:59,663 --> 01:33:02,583
opened up that conversation
and it would've...
1472
01:33:03,542 --> 01:33:06,211
it would've improved
our relationship earlier.
1473
01:33:06,295 --> 01:33:07,963
So, you didn't have that...
1474
01:33:08,672 --> 01:33:11,341
sort of inside you all the time.
1475
01:33:14,803 --> 01:33:15,888
[Lauren] Thanks, Mom.
1476
01:33:23,061 --> 01:33:24,980
Better than doing it at my funeral.
1477
01:33:25,063 --> 01:33:26,899
[both laugh]
1478
01:33:34,156 --> 01:33:38,493
[Mijanou] Conscious parenting is about
realizing how your kids are teachers.
1479
01:33:38,577 --> 01:33:43,123
They're like mirrors, and a lot of times
they're here to spark things up,
1480
01:33:43,207 --> 01:33:46,835
you know, within you that you need to heal
1481
01:33:46,919 --> 01:33:48,253
or you need to work on.
1482
01:33:50,506 --> 01:33:52,341
I feel protective over her.
1483
01:33:53,467 --> 01:33:58,430
She's so beautiful and I don't want her
to have to go through,
1484
01:33:58,514 --> 01:34:00,933
like, what I had to go through.
1485
01:34:02,184 --> 01:34:05,729
I think about that time
and how even I used to dress
1486
01:34:05,812 --> 01:34:07,439
and now I'm like, "Oh, my God!"
1487
01:34:07,523 --> 01:34:11,193
I would never, you know,
want Sahia to go out like that.
1488
01:34:14,530 --> 01:34:17,199
She doesn't watch TV.
We don't have a TV in the house.
1489
01:34:17,282 --> 01:34:21,620
Cutting that out and just
having her reality be what she sees
1490
01:34:21,703 --> 01:34:24,873
from her mom or dad or grandparents,
1491
01:34:25,415 --> 01:34:27,251
it's been amazing.
1492
01:34:33,549 --> 01:34:36,510
[Paris]
I didn't get what I needed as a kid.
1493
01:34:36,593 --> 01:34:39,263
I'm not mad about it anymore.
I've done a lot of work to get where I am.
1494
01:34:39,346 --> 01:34:40,889
This is just the hand I was dealt.
1495
01:34:40,973 --> 01:34:46,228
And really I just wanna use that as ammo
to be a good parent.
1496
01:34:48,230 --> 01:34:51,441
Whatever causes good self-esteem,
it's probably love,
1497
01:34:51,525 --> 01:34:54,528
it's probably nurturing,
it's probably just being there
1498
01:34:54,611 --> 01:34:57,656
and letting her know
that she's perfect the way she is.
1499
01:34:57,739 --> 01:34:59,616
You are my favorite girl.
1500
01:34:59,992 --> 01:35:02,744
Giving her that feeling is my goal.
1501
01:35:11,545 --> 01:35:14,339
Little boo-boo. Hello!
1502
01:35:15,799 --> 01:35:18,093
I miss having one like this.
1503
01:35:20,053 --> 01:35:22,222
Bah, bah, bah.
1504
01:35:24,725 --> 01:35:26,268
Talk to Dad. Talk to Dad.
1505
01:35:26,351 --> 01:35:28,812
What do you want? What does he want?
1506
01:35:28,896 --> 01:35:31,607
[Frank] So, later on we can just dump this
onto the computer?
1507
01:35:31,690 --> 01:35:36,612
Oh, yeah. So, Gloria, you're gonna change
the taxi to 4:00 a.m.
1508
01:35:37,404 --> 01:35:39,698
Okay. You know we're leaving at 4:00 a.m.
1509
01:35:43,869 --> 01:35:45,621
Did you know I was going away?
1510
01:35:45,704 --> 01:35:47,706
-Yeah.
-Just for a week.
1511
01:35:55,547 --> 01:35:57,966
-Bye, sweetheart.
-Bye, Mommy.
1512
01:36:00,594 --> 01:36:02,429
-I love you.
-Love you too.
1513
01:36:03,931 --> 01:36:05,474
-Have a good trip.
-Be good.
1514
01:36:06,099 --> 01:36:07,351
I will.
1515
01:36:18,529 --> 01:36:20,030
[phone ringing]
1516
01:36:20,113 --> 01:36:21,281
-[Noah] Hey, Mom.
-Hey, sweetheart.
1517
01:36:21,782 --> 01:36:24,076
I think your French
is getting better than mine.
1518
01:36:24,660 --> 01:36:26,578
It was really well-written.
1519
01:36:26,662 --> 01:36:29,581
-Really?
-Let me just look at it one more time.
1520
01:36:30,207 --> 01:36:31,834
I found a mistake.
1521
01:36:31,917 --> 01:36:35,128
You have... [speaks French]
And then you have... [speaks French]
1522
01:36:35,838 --> 01:36:36,880
Okay.
1523
01:36:36,964 --> 01:36:39,424
All right, well, you probably have
a lot of work. I'll let you go.
1524
01:36:39,508 --> 01:36:40,843
You want to see Manila?
1525
01:36:41,593 --> 01:36:43,554
Here, I'll just show you out the window.
1526
01:36:46,473 --> 01:36:48,517
-Can you see?
-Yeah, I can see.
1527
01:36:50,102 --> 01:36:51,562
It's very blurry.
1528
01:36:54,857 --> 01:36:57,985
-You see the streets a little bit?
-Yeah, it reminds me of China.
1529
01:36:59,486 --> 01:37:00,529
Yup.
1530
01:37:33,103 --> 01:37:34,104
Looks good.
1531
01:37:34,188 --> 01:37:37,232
Nice job! Beautiful!
1532
01:37:41,653 --> 01:37:46,658
[Hedges] Global capitalism has done a very
effective job of destroying culture.
1533
01:37:46,742 --> 01:37:50,454
That inability to hear the voices
of the past,
1534
01:37:50,537 --> 01:37:52,956
to understand traditions,
1535
01:37:53,749 --> 01:37:58,086
makes it much harder for us to grasp
who we are and where we came from.
1536
01:37:59,713 --> 01:38:03,258
Authentic culture holds up other values.
1537
01:38:03,342 --> 01:38:07,763
Forces us to be self-critical,
to look at ourselves.
1538
01:38:16,813 --> 01:38:20,317
[Lauren] So this project,
it goes back for me 25 years.
1539
01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:23,070
Can you imagine
where you'll be in 25 years?
1540
01:38:23,612 --> 01:38:26,365
Could you imagine where
you would be 25 years ago?
1541
01:38:27,199 --> 01:38:28,951
-[Lauren] No.
-Yeah, I don't think I could either.
1542
01:38:29,826 --> 01:38:32,913
Except for dreaming of you and Gabriel.
1543
01:38:41,630 --> 01:38:43,924
[indistinct chatter]
1544
01:38:44,842 --> 01:38:47,177
[cheering]
1545
01:38:52,182 --> 01:38:54,268
[Lauren]
So this is our 30-year anniversary.
1546
01:38:54,351 --> 01:38:56,144
I wanna make a toast to Frank...
1547
01:38:57,271 --> 01:39:02,776
the love of my life, who I can't imagine
or remember a life without
1548
01:39:02,860 --> 01:39:06,530
and sometimes don't even know
where you end and I begin.
1549
01:39:06,613 --> 01:39:09,575
For me and the kids,
Dad is the secret sauce
1550
01:39:09,658 --> 01:39:11,535
that makes everything possible,
1551
01:39:11,618 --> 01:39:15,163
who pushes us relentlessly
to make our dreams come true.
1552
01:39:16,874 --> 01:39:20,002
-[Frank] I'm filming the whole thing.
-Really? Oh.
1553
01:39:22,337 --> 01:39:23,505
[Frank] Keep going.
1554
01:39:30,804 --> 01:39:32,264
The proud papa!
1555
01:39:32,347 --> 01:39:35,017
[Sheldon] I'm always surprised
by the good things that you do.
1556
01:39:35,100 --> 01:39:39,354
But it's-- it's at an extraordinary price
and effort.
1557
01:39:39,438 --> 01:39:43,025
You're determined to spend time
with family and make sure that happens...
1558
01:39:43,692 --> 01:39:45,110
but you're all over the place.
1559
01:39:45,986 --> 01:39:49,907
I realize there's no perfect balance.
Nobody has it.
1560
01:39:51,867 --> 01:39:55,412
But sometimes I think
you're pushing a little bit too hard...
1561
01:39:55,913 --> 01:39:57,748
for the long run, not for the short run.
1562
01:39:59,374 --> 01:40:01,251
The work you're doing this time
1563
01:40:01,335 --> 01:40:03,670
fascinates me more
than any other work 'cause...
1564
01:40:04,630 --> 01:40:07,341
it's kind of like everything about wealth,
1565
01:40:07,424 --> 01:40:09,676
like, 25 years of wealth.
1566
01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:14,640
Like, the good stuff, the bad stuff,
the poor people, the rich people,
1567
01:40:14,723 --> 01:40:18,060
the happy people, the sad people, like--
1568
01:40:18,143 --> 01:40:19,561
I think that's cool.
1569
01:40:21,438 --> 01:40:23,482
-Yeah.
-[Lauren] Thanks, Noah.
1570
01:40:25,609 --> 01:40:28,403
[giggles]
1571
01:40:28,904 --> 01:40:30,405
[grunts]
1572
01:40:31,949 --> 01:40:33,784
-Ta-da!
-[laughs]
1573
01:40:34,243 --> 01:40:37,829
It's dedicated to you and Noah.
1574
01:40:40,874 --> 01:40:42,292
You've come a long way.
1575
01:40:47,256 --> 01:40:48,882
[chattering]
1576
01:40:50,634 --> 01:40:55,556
-[Lauren] Okay, go for it.
-Okay, hold on. All right, this way.
1577
01:40:56,849 --> 01:40:58,684
[Lauren]
It's kind of ironic that I've chosen
1578
01:40:58,767 --> 01:41:01,979
to raise my kids in the exact same world
that I grew up in.
1579
01:41:02,062 --> 01:41:06,233
Same neighborhood,
same school, same pressures.
1580
01:41:06,775 --> 01:41:10,320
And even though I can deconstruct
the culture in my work,
1581
01:41:10,404 --> 01:41:12,823
I'm still susceptible to its influence.
1582
01:41:14,283 --> 01:41:17,536
It's just who I am.
It's not like I can really stop.
1583
01:41:23,750 --> 01:41:28,505
I am in constant motion,
and I live with the consequences.
1584
01:41:29,298 --> 01:41:34,136
But it's also one of the things I love,
that gives my life meaning.
1585
01:41:41,977 --> 01:41:43,770
Not much has changed.
1586
01:41:46,440 --> 01:41:48,901
-[Paris] Rock star, right there.
-[Lauren laughs]
1587
01:41:48,984 --> 01:41:50,819
[Paris]
Just passing a joint around, you know?
1588
01:41:52,696 --> 01:41:58,577
Oh... Versace. Wow.
1589
01:42:04,166 --> 01:42:06,627
Oh, my God! It's me.
1590
01:42:08,212 --> 01:42:12,132
And this is my very first interview
I ever did.
1591
01:42:14,426 --> 01:42:17,095
...my very first interview I ever did.
1592
01:42:22,726 --> 01:42:24,186
[Cliff] Yeah, that was my life back then.
1593
01:42:25,229 --> 01:42:26,230
Huh.
1594
01:42:28,106 --> 01:42:32,736
The thoughts of a child, really.
Really, yeah.
1595
01:42:34,655 --> 01:42:35,656
That's deep.
1596
01:42:38,909 --> 01:42:41,453
"When I was leaving Kansas City,
I told my mom,
1597
01:42:41,537 --> 01:42:44,456
'One day you are going to see me walk
a red carpet.'
1598
01:42:45,999 --> 01:42:48,043
I have lived on private jets,
1599
01:42:48,585 --> 01:42:50,379
Cristal flowing nights,
1600
01:42:51,046 --> 01:42:54,550
and I have partied with rock stars
and celebrities and actors.
1601
01:42:55,259 --> 01:42:56,927
But you know what they say--
1602
01:42:57,803 --> 01:42:59,346
"Be careful what you wish for."
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