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Steve, are you in there? 10 00:00:17,980 --> 00:00:20,820 The first company that Hume worked for was the same company 11 00:00:20,860 --> 00:00:23,260 that Ebele Falade walked into with an air pistol. 12 00:00:23,300 --> 00:00:24,300 She was shouting, 13 00:00:24,340 --> 00:00:26,700 "I wanna speak to my dad, Tony bloody Hume." 14 00:00:26,740 --> 00:00:29,140 Did the caller say who the body was? 15 00:00:29,180 --> 00:00:31,260 A young man named Joseph Bell. 16 00:00:33,620 --> 00:00:35,900 MUSIC: 'All We Do' by Oh Wonder 17 00:00:41,420 --> 00:00:43,860 ♪ All we do is hide away 18 00:00:44,900 --> 00:00:48,820 ♪ All we do is All we do is hide away 19 00:00:48,860 --> 00:00:51,140 ♪ All we do is lie in wait 20 00:00:53,020 --> 00:00:56,580 ♪ All we do is All we do is lie in wait 21 00:00:56,620 --> 00:01:00,180 ♪ I've been upside down 22 00:01:00,220 --> 00:01:04,260 ♪ I don't want to be The right way round 23 00:01:04,300 --> 00:01:07,980 ♪ Can't find paradise On the ground. ♪ 24 00:01:20,220 --> 00:01:22,820 CHATTER 25 00:01:22,860 --> 00:01:24,340 SUNNY: And it is male? 26 00:01:24,380 --> 00:01:28,460 Looking at the brow ridge, the mastoid process, I'd say yes. 27 00:01:28,500 --> 00:01:30,700 And young. Anything else jumping out? 28 00:01:30,740 --> 00:01:33,740 Aside from the two bullet-shaped holes in his skull? Apart from them. 29 00:01:33,780 --> 00:01:36,100 Not yet. This level of decomposition, 30 00:01:36,140 --> 00:01:38,980 might that suggest how long he's been here for, roughly? 31 00:01:39,020 --> 00:01:41,100 If you mean could it have been around the same time 32 00:01:41,140 --> 00:01:44,980 as Precious Falade was killed, then, yes, it's not inconsistent. 33 00:01:45,020 --> 00:01:46,660 OK. Thanks, Leanne. 34 00:01:46,700 --> 00:01:49,700 DNA sample as soon as soon as, please. 35 00:01:49,740 --> 00:01:51,500 So, we need to speak to the letting agency, 36 00:01:51,540 --> 00:01:54,620 get a list of everyone who's lived here over the last ten years. Boss. 37 00:01:54,660 --> 00:01:56,260 And Anthony Hume... 38 00:01:56,300 --> 00:01:58,420 what have we not yet done to place him 39 00:01:58,460 --> 00:01:59,980 at the scene of Precious's murder? 40 00:02:00,020 --> 00:02:02,940 If he was there. He was there. 41 00:02:02,980 --> 00:02:05,020 All suggestions gratefully received. 42 00:02:05,060 --> 00:02:06,300 I'll message the team. 43 00:02:15,980 --> 00:02:17,820 Anthony Hume? 44 00:02:17,860 --> 00:02:18,980 Yes? 45 00:02:19,020 --> 00:02:21,180 So... 46 00:02:21,220 --> 00:02:25,460 Wojski takes 2K out of his savings 47 00:02:25,500 --> 00:02:27,420 on the 27th, in cash, 48 00:02:27,460 --> 00:02:30,540 puts them right back in on the 28th. 49 00:02:30,580 --> 00:02:32,340 So, what did he do to get his laptop back, 50 00:02:32,380 --> 00:02:33,900 without handing any money over? 51 00:02:33,940 --> 00:02:35,740 Exactly. 52 00:03:11,820 --> 00:03:13,980 We have nothing to say to you. 53 00:03:14,020 --> 00:03:17,740 So whichever tawdry rag your working for, 54 00:03:17,780 --> 00:03:19,900 you're wasting your time. 55 00:03:24,620 --> 00:03:27,020 I'm his daughter. 56 00:03:30,180 --> 00:03:32,540 What kind of messed up power game is this, Steve? 57 00:03:32,580 --> 00:03:34,340 It's no power game. I just want to talk. 58 00:03:34,380 --> 00:03:37,260 So we do it on the phone. You don't just turn up here. 59 00:03:37,300 --> 00:03:39,260 You left this house, remember? I'm sorry. 60 00:03:39,300 --> 00:03:41,660 And FYI, any phone call's going to be relatively brief, 61 00:03:41,700 --> 00:03:44,060 on account of the fact you screwed my sister. 62 00:03:44,100 --> 00:03:46,420 Except I didn't. What? 63 00:03:47,820 --> 00:03:49,220 I did kiss her, once. 64 00:03:50,300 --> 00:03:53,260 Which itself is unforgivable, I know, but... 65 00:03:54,300 --> 00:03:57,820 ..we never slept together. It was more of an emotional thing. 66 00:03:57,860 --> 00:04:02,740 So, my sister is telling me a lie that makes her look worse? 67 00:04:02,780 --> 00:04:05,580 Your sister has a lot of issues. I think we know this. 68 00:04:08,340 --> 00:04:12,660 Look, Jess, I messed up, massively, and I'm incredibly sorry for that. 69 00:04:12,700 --> 00:04:17,540 But I felt that you'd abandoned me, and I wanted you to hurt like I did, 70 00:04:17,580 --> 00:04:19,500 which is why I said I wanted to leave. 71 00:04:19,540 --> 00:04:21,620 But now I've calmed down a bit, and... 72 00:04:23,500 --> 00:04:25,260 ..I know I don't. 73 00:04:27,740 --> 00:04:30,140 I don't think I believe a word you just said. 74 00:04:30,180 --> 00:04:32,420 Jess, please, I swear it's the truth. 75 00:04:33,940 --> 00:04:36,700 Jess! Can we at least talk tonight? 76 00:04:43,780 --> 00:04:49,580 I found out on my 18th birthday and contacted him when I was 23. 77 00:04:49,620 --> 00:04:51,620 I'm now 59. 78 00:04:51,660 --> 00:04:54,980 And what sort of a relationship have you had with him in that time? 79 00:04:55,020 --> 00:04:57,580 In the multiple decades he's lied to you, you mean? 80 00:04:58,700 --> 00:05:02,060 Yes. Almost entirely financial. 81 00:05:02,100 --> 00:05:04,780 He's given you money? Reparation. 82 00:05:06,100 --> 00:05:10,260 Yes. So can I ask what it is you came here for? 83 00:05:10,300 --> 00:05:12,660 Well, obviously to see him. 84 00:05:12,700 --> 00:05:16,860 There were things that I wanted to say 85 00:05:16,900 --> 00:05:18,940 before it became impossible. 86 00:05:18,980 --> 00:05:21,900 But I can see that I am already too late, 87 00:05:21,940 --> 00:05:24,260 so maybe you can pass on a message. 88 00:05:25,340 --> 00:05:27,380 Can you tell him, please... 89 00:05:29,660 --> 00:05:31,820 ..that I loathe him? 90 00:05:31,860 --> 00:05:35,340 That I have always loathed him. 91 00:05:37,060 --> 00:05:40,580 And I always will. Right. 92 00:05:40,620 --> 00:05:45,740 But for all your loathing, you still obviously took his money. 93 00:05:45,780 --> 00:05:47,660 And there we are. 94 00:05:48,860 --> 00:05:53,340 You screwed multiple generations of my family over, 95 00:05:53,380 --> 00:05:56,420 and then think it's OK because I got some money? 96 00:05:56,460 --> 00:05:58,180 I didn't screw any one over. 97 00:05:58,220 --> 00:06:01,540 Maybe not... as directly as him. 98 00:06:01,580 --> 00:06:05,860 But your privilege, your comfort, your happiness, 99 00:06:05,900 --> 00:06:07,460 this house, in fact, 100 00:06:07,500 --> 00:06:12,100 were all built on the bones of people like me. 101 00:06:12,140 --> 00:06:14,660 Weren't they? I'd like you to leave now, please. 102 00:06:14,700 --> 00:06:17,060 You knew what he did, didn't you? 103 00:06:17,100 --> 00:06:21,580 You knew the policies that he espoused for decades. 104 00:06:22,860 --> 00:06:26,820 You knew the millions of lives that it ruined. 105 00:06:26,860 --> 00:06:28,100 Mine included. 106 00:06:29,860 --> 00:06:31,340 And you did nothing. 107 00:06:31,380 --> 00:06:33,500 You just looked the other way. 108 00:06:35,980 --> 00:06:38,580 So I didn't really come to speak to you. 109 00:06:40,340 --> 00:06:42,100 But now I'm here... 110 00:06:42,140 --> 00:06:44,700 fuck you, too. 111 00:06:44,740 --> 00:06:47,500 I loathe the pair of you. 112 00:07:11,260 --> 00:07:13,260 WHIRRING 113 00:07:16,580 --> 00:07:19,620 So, what I really need is a list of all of the ground-floor tenants 114 00:07:19,660 --> 00:07:21,140 from the past ten years. 115 00:07:21,180 --> 00:07:22,980 Now, I realise that might take a while, 116 00:07:23,020 --> 00:07:24,420 so can you start by telling me 117 00:07:24,460 --> 00:07:26,740 who the tenant was in July 2016, please? 118 00:07:28,100 --> 00:07:30,020 And that was from when to when? 119 00:07:30,060 --> 00:07:32,460 OK. A list of other tenants would be very useful. 120 00:07:32,500 --> 00:07:33,860 You've been very helpful. 121 00:07:33,900 --> 00:07:35,820 Thank you very much. Yes! Thank you, God. 122 00:07:39,340 --> 00:07:45,500 So, the tenant of the garden flat from May 2015 to August 2016 123 00:07:45,540 --> 00:07:46,860 was Ebele Falade. 124 00:07:50,300 --> 00:07:52,740 MAN ON RADIO: 'The body, discovered buried in the garden 125 00:07:52,780 --> 00:07:54,020 'of a flat in Greenford, 126 00:07:54,060 --> 00:07:57,180 'is believed to be connected to the recent discovery of remains 127 00:07:57,220 --> 00:07:59,060 'found in a house in Hammersmith.' 128 00:07:59,100 --> 00:08:01,620 FADING: 'Police investigators on the scene...' 129 00:08:03,140 --> 00:08:05,900 Local authorities were dealing with huge cuts, 130 00:08:05,940 --> 00:08:09,020 and we were all basically doing the jobs of two people. 131 00:08:10,220 --> 00:08:13,340 So you were perma exhausted. 132 00:08:13,380 --> 00:08:16,220 Multiple 12-hour days, 133 00:08:16,260 --> 00:08:20,260 and from dealing, day in, day out, with people who had been... 134 00:08:20,300 --> 00:08:21,620 abandoned. 135 00:08:23,060 --> 00:08:27,180 People who were angry and in constant crisis. 136 00:08:28,940 --> 00:08:30,660 People who blamed you. 137 00:08:30,700 --> 00:08:35,260 And over a sustained period, that really began to take its toll. 138 00:08:35,300 --> 00:08:37,780 I was living on my own at this point, 139 00:08:37,820 --> 00:08:42,140 and I'd started to feel very isolated, very low. 140 00:08:42,180 --> 00:08:44,580 And I-I just started to fixate on some... 141 00:08:46,380 --> 00:08:48,260 ..on some really bad thoughts. 142 00:08:50,460 --> 00:08:52,780 About women and... 143 00:08:52,820 --> 00:08:56,700 taking certain sorts of photos... 144 00:08:56,740 --> 00:08:57,860 of them... 145 00:08:59,180 --> 00:09:00,580 ..in public. 146 00:09:01,660 --> 00:09:07,580 And then in late 2015, I was attacked on the street. 147 00:09:07,620 --> 00:09:12,020 And then in February 2016, outside my synagogue. 148 00:09:12,060 --> 00:09:16,340 And it was about a week after the second attack 149 00:09:16,380 --> 00:09:18,380 that I took my first photo. 150 00:09:19,740 --> 00:09:22,620 On the tube. You think the two are connected? 151 00:09:22,660 --> 00:09:24,860 No. 152 00:09:24,900 --> 00:09:27,180 Well, maybe. I don't know. 153 00:09:27,220 --> 00:09:31,060 I'm certainly not trying to offer it up as an excuse. 154 00:09:31,100 --> 00:09:35,660 I'm just saying, you grow up being made to feel different. 155 00:09:35,700 --> 00:09:38,740 When we first moved to UK, all through school 156 00:09:38,780 --> 00:09:44,100 then actually being physically attacked for being different. 157 00:09:46,780 --> 00:09:48,340 And it can affect you. 158 00:09:50,060 --> 00:09:51,540 Make you do bad shit. 159 00:09:51,580 --> 00:09:53,740 And these photos, they... 160 00:09:55,260 --> 00:09:58,140 ..made you feel, what, better or...? 161 00:09:58,180 --> 00:09:59,740 In the moment, maybe, but... 162 00:10:01,380 --> 00:10:03,780 ..in the long term, they made me feel much worse. 163 00:10:03,820 --> 00:10:06,180 But you carried on taking them, Karol. 164 00:10:06,220 --> 00:10:08,180 Eventually even taking them at work. 165 00:10:08,220 --> 00:10:10,340 Yeah. Why? 166 00:10:12,380 --> 00:10:14,660 Why do any of us do things we know are wrong? 167 00:10:16,700 --> 00:10:20,420 Because that momentary relief is better than nothing. 168 00:10:38,580 --> 00:10:45,420 I'd like, if I may, to take you back to the 26th of June 2016. 169 00:10:45,460 --> 00:10:50,180 Er, which was the day that you visited Precious Falade 170 00:10:50,220 --> 00:10:51,740 in a house in Hammersmith. 171 00:10:51,780 --> 00:10:53,980 And it was also the last time you ever saw her, 172 00:10:54,020 --> 00:10:56,780 according to your statement when we spoke in Paris. Yeah. 173 00:10:56,820 --> 00:11:01,820 And was this also the day that you accidentally left your laptop there? 174 00:11:04,020 --> 00:11:05,900 You should assume we know everything, Karol. 175 00:11:08,780 --> 00:11:11,100 Yeah. And on that laptop, 176 00:11:11,140 --> 00:11:13,380 she found a number of your upskirting photos 177 00:11:13,420 --> 00:11:14,940 and tried to blackmail you for them. 178 00:11:16,460 --> 00:11:18,780 Yeah. For £2,000? 179 00:11:20,780 --> 00:11:22,380 Yeah. 180 00:11:22,420 --> 00:11:26,140 Showing the suspect exhibit KW01, 181 00:11:26,180 --> 00:11:28,740 a bank statement belonging to him. 182 00:11:28,780 --> 00:11:31,580 And if you have a look at the highlighted entries there, Karol, 183 00:11:31,620 --> 00:11:33,380 you can see that you did in fact 184 00:11:33,420 --> 00:11:37,060 withdraw 2,000, in cash, on the 27th. 185 00:11:37,100 --> 00:11:39,740 But then, just below that entry, 186 00:11:39,780 --> 00:11:43,220 you deposited the exact same amount again in cash 187 00:11:43,260 --> 00:11:45,940 into the same account on the 28th. 188 00:11:45,980 --> 00:11:49,300 Which suggests to me that you never paid her the money. 189 00:11:52,220 --> 00:11:53,580 I didn't. 190 00:11:53,620 --> 00:11:55,740 So, could you tell us, then, please, 191 00:11:55,780 --> 00:11:58,260 how you did manage to get your laptop back? 192 00:12:19,060 --> 00:12:22,220 Can I, erm... drop these off for a patient, please? 193 00:12:22,260 --> 00:12:24,420 What ward? Erm... 194 00:12:24,460 --> 00:12:26,740 I dunno, but her name's Sophie Coulson. 195 00:12:26,780 --> 00:12:28,060 She hit her head and... 196 00:12:30,060 --> 00:12:31,660 Just tell her I'm sorry, yeah? 197 00:12:34,740 --> 00:12:37,180 The first thing I noticed as I walked up the drive way 198 00:12:37,220 --> 00:12:39,100 was that there was a car parked up outside. 199 00:12:39,140 --> 00:12:42,740 OK, and this was the day after you say you last saw her? 200 00:12:42,780 --> 00:12:45,180 Yeah. So, you went in? 201 00:12:45,220 --> 00:12:47,580 Yeah. And what happened then? 202 00:12:47,620 --> 00:12:51,660 Well, I couldn't see anyone, so I called out her name. 203 00:12:51,700 --> 00:12:54,020 No-one answered, so I walked straight ahead 204 00:12:54,060 --> 00:12:56,380 into the sitting room, where we'd met the day before. 205 00:12:58,660 --> 00:13:01,700 The floor was wet. 206 00:13:01,740 --> 00:13:03,260 Like, all over. 207 00:13:03,300 --> 00:13:05,820 Like someone had just mopped it. But no Precious. 208 00:13:05,860 --> 00:13:08,580 And then in the corner, I saw my laptop on the table. 209 00:13:08,620 --> 00:13:11,340 This was my property, you know? 210 00:13:11,380 --> 00:13:14,020 So I walked over and took it and then left. 211 00:13:14,060 --> 00:13:17,780 It was as I was heading for the front door that I saw him. 212 00:13:19,220 --> 00:13:22,100 An old man at the end of the corridor, 213 00:13:22,140 --> 00:13:23,980 with a mop and bucket. 214 00:13:24,020 --> 00:13:25,540 Did you speak to him? 215 00:13:25,580 --> 00:13:29,860 I called out, "Hello," and he turned, clearly surprised. 216 00:13:29,900 --> 00:13:32,900 I introduced myself and told him that I'd come to see Precious. 217 00:13:34,340 --> 00:13:36,340 He quickly said that she was out 218 00:13:36,380 --> 00:13:39,180 and that he'd tell her that I'd come over. Anything else? 219 00:13:39,220 --> 00:13:41,460 He'd asked if I'd been into the main room to look for her. 220 00:13:41,500 --> 00:13:43,180 I said no and then left. 221 00:13:43,220 --> 00:13:44,460 Could you describe him? 222 00:13:44,500 --> 00:13:47,300 Late 60s, early 70s. 223 00:13:47,340 --> 00:13:49,580 Well-spoken. OK. 224 00:13:49,620 --> 00:13:53,860 Erm... So, the day after this, you resigned. 225 00:13:53,900 --> 00:13:59,140 And then three weeks later, you left the country for good. 226 00:13:59,180 --> 00:14:01,940 I assumed that she'd have downloaded the images elsewhere 227 00:14:01,980 --> 00:14:03,540 and would continue to extort me. 228 00:14:03,580 --> 00:14:05,820 I felt my life in England was over. 229 00:14:07,460 --> 00:14:08,700 Listen... 230 00:14:09,900 --> 00:14:12,620 ..you'd be hard-pressed to find a man who hated himself 231 00:14:12,660 --> 00:14:14,100 more than me for what I did do. 232 00:14:15,380 --> 00:14:17,700 All the women I abused by taking those photos. 233 00:14:19,620 --> 00:14:22,060 I hope I've become a better person, 234 00:14:22,100 --> 00:14:24,980 but I'm also fully aware that I may well be kidding myself 235 00:14:25,020 --> 00:14:28,100 that I only did it because I was depressed or lonely. 236 00:14:29,500 --> 00:14:32,900 I mean, maybe I actually did it because I'm a fucked-up human being. 237 00:14:32,940 --> 00:14:36,260 I genuinely don't know the answer to that. 238 00:14:36,300 --> 00:14:39,180 But one thing I am sure of... 239 00:14:39,220 --> 00:14:42,340 I never saw Precious Falade after the 26th, 240 00:14:42,380 --> 00:14:44,020 and I never hurt her. 241 00:14:52,980 --> 00:14:55,100 DNA tests confirm that Jay Royce 242 00:14:55,140 --> 00:14:57,820 is indeed the child of Precious Falade and Eric Royce, 243 00:14:57,860 --> 00:14:59,660 and the body in the garden 244 00:14:59,700 --> 00:15:01,700 is the child of Precious Falade and David Bell. 245 00:15:01,740 --> 00:15:03,900 Joseph Bell. Mm-hm. 246 00:15:03,940 --> 00:15:06,740 Ebele never mentioned she had a second grandchild. 247 00:15:06,780 --> 00:15:09,180 Do we think it's possible she didn't know? 248 00:15:09,220 --> 00:15:11,860 I think it's perfectly possible. The boy was invisible. 249 00:15:11,900 --> 00:15:15,820 Off the radar of social services, the education system. 250 00:15:15,860 --> 00:15:18,540 The real question is, what does he know? 251 00:15:18,580 --> 00:15:20,300 Indeed. OK. 252 00:15:20,340 --> 00:15:22,140 Murray, what have you got for us? 253 00:15:22,180 --> 00:15:24,180 Forensics have confirmed that a bullet 254 00:15:24,220 --> 00:15:26,300 found in the wall at Waterman Road 255 00:15:26,340 --> 00:15:29,060 was fired from the same gun as the one that killed Precious. 256 00:15:29,100 --> 00:15:30,980 Yeah. Not a surprise. Excellent. 257 00:15:31,020 --> 00:15:32,940 Anything else? Yeah. 258 00:15:32,980 --> 00:15:36,980 You wanted to try and place Hume at the murder scene on the 26th. 259 00:15:37,020 --> 00:15:40,020 I mean, my name was on the contract, but he paid the actual rent, 260 00:15:40,060 --> 00:15:41,700 so he absolutely knew where the flat was. 261 00:15:41,740 --> 00:15:42,980 He probably had keys. Who did? 262 00:15:43,020 --> 00:15:44,460 And the day after it all happened, 263 00:15:44,500 --> 00:15:46,180 he paid for me to go away for a few days. 264 00:15:46,220 --> 00:15:48,940 He sent me away to bloody Cornwall, Dave! Calm down, Bele. Who did? 265 00:15:48,980 --> 00:15:51,540 My father! He put Joe there. 266 00:15:51,580 --> 00:15:53,220 I thought you never knew your father. 267 00:15:54,660 --> 00:15:56,380 Bele? 268 00:15:56,420 --> 00:15:57,780 Bele?! 269 00:15:57,820 --> 00:16:00,460 Did you kill your granddaughter, Mr Hume? 270 00:16:00,500 --> 00:16:02,860 I don't have a granddaughter. I have three grandsons. 271 00:16:02,900 --> 00:16:05,020 I'm talking about Precious Falade. 272 00:16:05,060 --> 00:16:07,260 What evidence do you have that Precious Falade 273 00:16:07,300 --> 00:16:08,900 is Mr Hume's granddaughter? 274 00:16:08,940 --> 00:16:11,620 We can do DNA checks in time, but, for now, 275 00:16:11,660 --> 00:16:14,660 I think his daughter Ebele Falade will confirm this. 276 00:16:14,700 --> 00:16:16,500 And if he denies Ebele is his daughter, 277 00:16:16,540 --> 00:16:19,460 well, then I'd simply ask why he's been paying her money 278 00:16:19,500 --> 00:16:22,220 via standing order for the past 30-something years. 279 00:16:22,260 --> 00:16:23,500 No, I didn't kill her. 280 00:16:25,380 --> 00:16:28,260 Did you kill your great-grandson, Joseph Bell? 281 00:16:28,300 --> 00:16:29,540 No, of course not. 282 00:16:29,580 --> 00:16:31,980 Were you with either of them the night they died? 283 00:16:32,020 --> 00:16:33,220 No. 284 00:16:33,260 --> 00:16:38,420 Or at or near 64 Waterman Road, on the 26th and 27th of June, 2016? 285 00:16:38,460 --> 00:16:41,660 No. And when was the last time you saw either of them? 286 00:16:41,700 --> 00:16:43,380 I've never even met either of them. 287 00:16:44,900 --> 00:16:47,700 I'm showing the suspect exhibit TH01 - 288 00:16:47,740 --> 00:16:52,340 a copy of a credit card statement belonging to Mr Hume. 289 00:16:52,380 --> 00:16:56,900 Mr Hume, could you read out the fifth credit down, please? 290 00:16:58,580 --> 00:17:02,700 It's a payment to an Esso filling station for £60. 291 00:17:02,740 --> 00:17:05,820 26th of June, 2016. 292 00:17:05,860 --> 00:17:10,820 Thank you. And the address of the petrol station? 293 00:17:10,860 --> 00:17:13,180 Inverdale Road. Postcode? 294 00:17:13,220 --> 00:17:14,740 W67 CX. 295 00:17:14,780 --> 00:17:17,420 Which is, in case you don't know, Hammersmith, 296 00:17:17,460 --> 00:17:21,260 and Inverdale Road is the road at the bottom of Waterman Road. 297 00:17:21,300 --> 00:17:25,260 And, er, do you see a time for the payment there? 298 00:17:25,300 --> 00:17:26,700 19:23. 299 00:17:26,740 --> 00:17:30,700 So just before half seven, on the night that Precious died, 300 00:17:30,740 --> 00:17:34,380 we now have you no more than 100 yards 301 00:17:34,420 --> 00:17:35,860 from the house in which she died. 302 00:17:35,900 --> 00:17:38,580 Is there anything you'd like to add? No comment. 303 00:17:40,460 --> 00:17:44,740 So, erm, the day after this, the 27th of June, 304 00:17:44,780 --> 00:17:48,500 we also have a witness who says they saw you 305 00:17:48,540 --> 00:17:50,660 with a bucket and mop 306 00:17:50,700 --> 00:17:54,660 near a room shown by forensics to have been spattered with blood, 307 00:17:54,700 --> 00:17:57,780 which we have since identified as Precious Falade's. 308 00:17:57,820 --> 00:17:59,300 What witness? 309 00:17:59,340 --> 00:18:01,260 Her social worker. 310 00:18:01,300 --> 00:18:04,420 You refused consent for a video ID earlier, 311 00:18:04,460 --> 00:18:06,500 so we took a covert ID in custody, 312 00:18:06,540 --> 00:18:10,460 and our witness identified you very easily, Mr Hume. 313 00:18:10,500 --> 00:18:11,940 What's your response to that? 314 00:18:13,820 --> 00:18:15,300 LAWYER CLEARS THROAT 315 00:18:16,540 --> 00:18:20,340 WHISPERS: Lord Hume, I think the best course is to... 316 00:18:24,060 --> 00:18:26,140 No comment. Really?! 317 00:18:26,180 --> 00:18:29,260 Because maybe there's a perfectly innocent explanation as to why, 318 00:18:29,300 --> 00:18:32,460 the day after a murder was committed in that room, 319 00:18:32,500 --> 00:18:34,580 you were seen in that house, 320 00:18:34,620 --> 00:18:37,380 clearly having just mopped blood off the floor. 321 00:18:37,420 --> 00:18:39,900 And if there is, then this is your chance now 322 00:18:39,940 --> 00:18:42,620 to tell us your side of the story. 323 00:18:46,300 --> 00:18:47,860 Or Corfu. 324 00:18:47,900 --> 00:18:50,460 Mike and Liz went there last year and absolutely loved it. 325 00:18:50,500 --> 00:18:53,900 Said it was the prettiest village. Water's crystal clear. 326 00:18:53,940 --> 00:18:55,660 They said they'd go back in a heartbeat. 327 00:18:55,700 --> 00:18:58,140 Hello. You all right, love? 328 00:19:00,300 --> 00:19:02,740 There's something I need to tell you about. 329 00:19:09,740 --> 00:19:12,300 I'm gonna go and stay with Jordan for a bit. 330 00:19:12,340 --> 00:19:14,860 He's found a new squat with hot water. 331 00:19:17,540 --> 00:19:20,300 You need to sort your life out, J, man. 332 00:19:23,740 --> 00:19:25,940 I only found out about Bele... 333 00:19:27,420 --> 00:19:29,940 ..when she was in her early 20s. 334 00:19:32,220 --> 00:19:33,620 The result of a very... 335 00:19:34,860 --> 00:19:39,100 ..brief relationship I'd had with her mother in 1963. 336 00:19:40,940 --> 00:19:43,220 The mother died when Bele was young. 337 00:19:43,260 --> 00:19:46,300 And so as soon as I found out I had a daughter, 338 00:19:46,340 --> 00:19:49,460 I obviously offered her financial support, 339 00:19:49,500 --> 00:19:51,500 which she accepted. 340 00:19:51,540 --> 00:19:54,860 There was little further contact, which was her choice. 341 00:19:54,900 --> 00:19:58,620 I knew that she had had a daughter herself in the... 342 00:19:58,660 --> 00:20:00,260 in the mid-'80s, 343 00:20:00,300 --> 00:20:04,140 but I had no contact with her until late 2015 344 00:20:04,180 --> 00:20:06,780 when she called me out of the blue... 345 00:20:07,940 --> 00:20:10,540 ..and also wanted money. 346 00:20:12,020 --> 00:20:14,540 Which, again, willingly, I-I gave her. 347 00:20:15,900 --> 00:20:17,980 A few weeks before she... 348 00:20:19,140 --> 00:20:21,060 ..she died... 349 00:20:21,100 --> 00:20:26,060 I got a call from Bele telling me that Precious was homeless. 350 00:20:26,100 --> 00:20:28,260 Waterman Road was empty at that time 351 00:20:28,300 --> 00:20:31,140 and, of course, I wanted to help, so... 352 00:20:31,180 --> 00:20:32,380 I met her... 353 00:20:33,700 --> 00:20:36,740 ..to give her some keys and let her in, and... 354 00:20:39,140 --> 00:20:41,740 The meeting was brief but cordial. 355 00:20:42,980 --> 00:20:44,940 She'd obviously lost her way in life, 356 00:20:44,980 --> 00:20:46,460 and I felt very sorry for her. 357 00:20:48,740 --> 00:20:50,180 HE SIGHS 358 00:20:51,860 --> 00:20:53,620 The night she died... 359 00:20:54,700 --> 00:20:58,220 ..a man identifying himself as Precious's son 360 00:20:58,260 --> 00:21:00,220 called me from Waterman Road. 361 00:21:02,540 --> 00:21:03,980 He, er... 362 00:21:06,380 --> 00:21:11,300 He was threatening all sorts of things, and again, wanted money. 363 00:21:11,340 --> 00:21:13,620 I rang Bele, and... 364 00:21:15,060 --> 00:21:17,300 ..she said she'd drive there immediately. 365 00:21:18,420 --> 00:21:19,900 But, erm... 366 00:21:23,900 --> 00:21:25,020 HE SIGHS 367 00:21:25,060 --> 00:21:28,980 Well, I-I also decided to drive there myself. 368 00:21:30,900 --> 00:21:32,500 I got there first. 369 00:21:35,660 --> 00:21:38,860 To find that Joseph, Precious's son... 370 00:21:40,220 --> 00:21:41,700 ..was in a very bad way. 371 00:21:41,740 --> 00:21:44,260 He seemed to be coming down off something 372 00:21:44,300 --> 00:21:46,020 and was clearly very disturbed, 373 00:21:46,060 --> 00:21:49,580 threatening violence to me and his mother. 374 00:21:50,860 --> 00:21:55,100 Unless I took him to a cash machine and got out thousands of pounds. 375 00:21:56,460 --> 00:21:57,900 And then... 376 00:21:59,260 --> 00:22:01,140 ..quite without warning, he... 377 00:22:02,380 --> 00:22:04,420 ..he pulled out a gun. 378 00:22:06,180 --> 00:22:08,180 Which he proceeded to point at me. 379 00:22:09,820 --> 00:22:13,420 Precious was horrified, and... and before I could stop her, 380 00:22:13,460 --> 00:22:15,340 she lunged for it, and it... 381 00:22:20,060 --> 00:22:21,820 It went off. 382 00:22:23,260 --> 00:22:24,980 Hitting him in the head. 383 00:22:27,260 --> 00:22:28,420 He fell. 384 00:22:28,460 --> 00:22:31,220 I went to help him, and, er... 385 00:22:32,700 --> 00:22:35,420 ..as I was trying to get him into the recovery position... 386 00:22:37,100 --> 00:22:39,540 ..there was another shot. 387 00:22:39,580 --> 00:22:44,660 And I looked around, and Precious had turned the gun on to herself. 388 00:22:46,460 --> 00:22:48,220 Straight into her chest. 389 00:22:52,820 --> 00:22:54,780 She died pretty instantly. 390 00:22:54,820 --> 00:22:57,340 Joseph's heart stopped within seconds. 391 00:22:58,460 --> 00:23:00,580 I never even had a chance to call for help. 392 00:23:04,180 --> 00:23:06,500 And into this... 393 00:23:06,540 --> 00:23:09,820 nightmare walked Bele. 394 00:23:11,620 --> 00:23:15,460 I explained to her what had happened. I'm... 395 00:23:15,500 --> 00:23:17,220 I'm not sure she entirely believed me, 396 00:23:17,260 --> 00:23:19,020 even though it was true. 397 00:23:21,820 --> 00:23:25,700 Obviously, we were both in pieces. 398 00:23:26,980 --> 00:23:29,700 And that was how I... 399 00:23:29,740 --> 00:23:31,660 HE EXHALES 400 00:23:31,700 --> 00:23:33,900 ..I ended up saying that I would... 401 00:23:35,660 --> 00:23:37,740 ..dispose of Joseph's body. 402 00:23:40,660 --> 00:23:45,620 And how I ended up leaving Bele with her daughter. 403 00:23:45,660 --> 00:23:49,580 So, you buried Joseph Bell 404 00:23:49,620 --> 00:23:53,060 in the garden of your daughter's flat in Greenford? 405 00:23:53,100 --> 00:23:56,660 Yes. And why there specifically? 406 00:23:57,940 --> 00:23:59,620 I had keys. 407 00:24:02,060 --> 00:24:04,540 It was private. Not for deflection? 408 00:24:04,580 --> 00:24:08,580 To incriminate her if anything ever went wrong? 409 00:24:08,620 --> 00:24:09,900 No. 410 00:24:09,940 --> 00:24:15,660 So, why did you anonymously call the front desk of this station 411 00:24:15,700 --> 00:24:17,620 last night and tell us where his body was? 412 00:24:22,500 --> 00:24:24,180 I panicked. 413 00:24:25,780 --> 00:24:29,860 And did you know that Bele had hidden Precious in the fireplace? 414 00:24:29,900 --> 00:24:31,780 No. 415 00:24:34,180 --> 00:24:37,500 She told me she'd buried her in woods somewhere. 416 00:24:37,540 --> 00:24:39,740 So this... 417 00:24:39,780 --> 00:24:41,540 this is the truth now? 418 00:24:43,820 --> 00:24:45,020 Yes. 419 00:24:45,060 --> 00:24:47,820 Because you've lied to us repeatedly, Lord Hume. 420 00:24:47,860 --> 00:24:49,420 Both times we've questioned you. 421 00:24:50,820 --> 00:24:53,100 This is the truth. 422 00:24:53,140 --> 00:24:55,100 I swear. 423 00:25:13,020 --> 00:25:14,940 We need Ebele Falade. 424 00:25:37,660 --> 00:25:39,900 CHILDREN LAUGHING UPSTAIRS 425 00:25:42,220 --> 00:25:45,220 STEVE MIMICKING ROBOT: Come on. Firstly, we need to clean our teeth. 426 00:25:45,260 --> 00:25:48,180 We need to do our stories. Time is running out. 427 00:25:48,220 --> 00:25:50,140 CHILD SQUEALS 428 00:25:50,180 --> 00:25:52,940 Wait. Five, four, three... 429 00:25:52,980 --> 00:25:57,340 His behaviour has been disgraceful, which he realises. 430 00:25:57,380 --> 00:25:59,860 He loves you, Jess. 431 00:25:59,900 --> 00:26:01,420 And needs you. 432 00:26:01,460 --> 00:26:03,220 And the kids need him. 433 00:26:04,420 --> 00:26:05,940 I don't believe him, Mum. 434 00:26:07,340 --> 00:26:11,620 No, I'm sure you don't, and it's shite, but... 435 00:26:11,660 --> 00:26:12,860 nothing's perfect. 436 00:26:15,060 --> 00:26:16,620 Not even you. Hm! 437 00:26:16,660 --> 00:26:18,820 Call you later. OK. 438 00:26:25,540 --> 00:26:29,020 CHATTER CONTINUES UPSTAIRS 439 00:26:29,060 --> 00:26:30,940 CHILD SQUEALS, LAUGHTER 440 00:26:58,620 --> 00:27:03,100 So, my mum, Yetunde, was a second-generation Nigerian. 441 00:27:03,140 --> 00:27:06,460 Her parents came over here after the war, 442 00:27:06,500 --> 00:27:09,100 and she was born in 1946. 443 00:27:10,140 --> 00:27:14,780 And in August 1963, age 17, 444 00:27:14,820 --> 00:27:18,900 she got a job as a cleaner in the city stockbroker's 445 00:27:18,940 --> 00:27:22,380 where her parents already worked in the canteen. 446 00:27:22,420 --> 00:27:27,900 The son of one of the directors was working there in the months 447 00:27:27,940 --> 00:27:31,220 between Wallingham and Cambridge, 448 00:27:31,260 --> 00:27:35,420 and one night, after drinking with work friends, 449 00:27:35,460 --> 00:27:38,700 he went back to the office late to pick up some papers 450 00:27:38,740 --> 00:27:42,820 and encountered my mum, who was working nights. 451 00:27:42,860 --> 00:27:48,380 And after pressuring her to have a few drinks with him... 452 00:27:50,580 --> 00:27:52,300 ..raped her. 453 00:27:53,380 --> 00:27:58,380 She went back home that night and, of course, told her parents. 454 00:27:58,420 --> 00:28:00,380 Who blamed her. 455 00:28:00,420 --> 00:28:05,220 And she did consider going to the police, but, er... 456 00:28:05,260 --> 00:28:08,500 in the end, didn't because... 457 00:28:08,540 --> 00:28:11,820 he was the rich, white, son of the boss. 458 00:28:11,860 --> 00:28:14,460 And... she wasn't. 459 00:28:15,580 --> 00:28:19,820 A few weeks later, she realised that she was pregnant 460 00:28:19,860 --> 00:28:24,780 and wrote to the son, who was now at university. 461 00:28:24,820 --> 00:28:27,620 And... he didn't reply, 462 00:28:27,660 --> 00:28:31,020 so she wrote to his father - 463 00:28:31,060 --> 00:28:33,260 Sir Henry Hume... 464 00:28:34,500 --> 00:28:38,740 ..who asked her to come into his office 465 00:28:38,780 --> 00:28:42,020 and told her that if she pursued this any further, 466 00:28:42,060 --> 00:28:44,940 he'd sack her and her parents. 467 00:28:46,100 --> 00:28:49,620 Morgan Lavelle had originally made their money 468 00:28:49,660 --> 00:28:51,460 from the sugar trade, 469 00:28:51,500 --> 00:28:54,260 so she really shouldn't have been so surprised. 470 00:28:55,340 --> 00:29:01,580 And on the 3rd of March, 1964, I was born. 471 00:29:02,860 --> 00:29:06,060 Three weeks later, she wrote me a letter 472 00:29:06,100 --> 00:29:10,540 which, erm, was meant to be given to me on my 18th birthday. 473 00:29:10,580 --> 00:29:13,060 And deposited it with a local solicitor... 474 00:29:14,540 --> 00:29:15,900 ..and... 475 00:29:18,020 --> 00:29:20,220 ..jumped in the Thames. 476 00:29:22,500 --> 00:29:26,780 I was raised by my grandparents, who... 477 00:29:26,820 --> 00:29:31,300 saw me as a child of evil 478 00:29:31,340 --> 00:29:36,700 and filled me with shame and self-hatred. 479 00:29:37,900 --> 00:29:43,260 And after I read that, I realised why. 480 00:29:43,300 --> 00:29:48,660 So if he told you that he was decent about it 481 00:29:48,700 --> 00:29:54,740 when I finally approached him, then, again, he lied. 482 00:29:54,780 --> 00:29:58,580 He was much more interested in protecting his reputation 483 00:29:58,620 --> 00:30:04,500 and made a number of threats of violence against me. 484 00:30:04,540 --> 00:30:09,540 I ignored them, and I got his DNA from a glass 485 00:30:09,580 --> 00:30:11,740 at a lecture that he did, 486 00:30:11,780 --> 00:30:16,220 and had a test done and told him that I would go to 487 00:30:16,260 --> 00:30:20,100 the News Of The World with the result. 488 00:30:20,140 --> 00:30:23,140 That was 1988. Yeah. 489 00:30:23,180 --> 00:30:26,780 After that, he was a pussy cat. 490 00:30:28,580 --> 00:30:33,740 So nothing about him is what it seems. 491 00:30:36,700 --> 00:30:40,500 And whatever he told you about that night, 492 00:30:40,540 --> 00:30:45,660 whatever he told me, won't be what actually happened. 493 00:30:45,700 --> 00:30:49,020 So, why don't you tell us what you witnessed there? 494 00:31:08,540 --> 00:31:11,780 He called me and said that... 495 00:31:11,820 --> 00:31:14,940 Joseph had called him, threatening him. 496 00:31:14,980 --> 00:31:18,260 Did Joseph know that this was his great grandfather? 497 00:31:18,300 --> 00:31:23,340 I had told Precious about Hume a few months before. 498 00:31:23,380 --> 00:31:25,500 I guess she had then told Joseph. 499 00:31:25,540 --> 00:31:28,460 And why hadn't you told her about him before then? 500 00:31:29,620 --> 00:31:35,340 Because I knew that she would mess up the financial arrangement. 501 00:31:36,420 --> 00:31:38,380 Which I needed. 502 00:31:39,540 --> 00:31:42,100 So? So, erm... 503 00:31:43,100 --> 00:31:48,300 After my father called me, we both headed to Waterman Road. 504 00:31:48,340 --> 00:31:52,140 And when I arrived, I walked in... 505 00:31:53,300 --> 00:31:57,780 ..to a vision from hell. 506 00:31:57,820 --> 00:32:04,180 My daughter was already dead, and my grandson was dying. 507 00:32:04,220 --> 00:32:09,980 And my father told me that my daughter had shot her son... 508 00:32:10,020 --> 00:32:13,020 accidentally, and then shot herself. 509 00:32:13,060 --> 00:32:17,660 Did he tell you how that happened? 510 00:32:17,700 --> 00:32:20,740 He said that Joseph had taken drugs, 511 00:32:20,780 --> 00:32:23,860 and that there'd been some sort of row about money, 512 00:32:23,900 --> 00:32:27,940 and that he'd pointed a gun at Hume, 513 00:32:27,980 --> 00:32:30,340 and that Precious had tried to get it off him, 514 00:32:30,380 --> 00:32:33,500 and it had gone off, hitting Joe. 515 00:32:33,540 --> 00:32:36,980 And she'd then turned it on herself. 516 00:32:37,020 --> 00:32:40,860 OK. And did you ever question this version of events? 517 00:32:40,900 --> 00:32:43,820 Oh... No, not in the moment, no. 518 00:32:43,860 --> 00:32:46,900 You know, I was in shock, obviously. 519 00:32:46,940 --> 00:32:50,820 And also, I'd only met Joseph three or four times, 520 00:32:50,860 --> 00:32:52,660 and I knew that he'd already been in 521 00:32:52,700 --> 00:32:57,220 a young offenders institute for assault using a gun. 522 00:32:57,260 --> 00:33:01,660 And in that moment, in the panic and horror, 523 00:33:01,700 --> 00:33:04,900 being told that by Lord Anthony Hume, 524 00:33:04,940 --> 00:33:09,300 I'm embarrassed to say that I... I... I believed him. 525 00:33:11,300 --> 00:33:14,220 Do you believe it now? No. No. 526 00:33:15,300 --> 00:33:16,900 So, what do you think happened? 527 00:33:18,380 --> 00:33:19,820 I don't know. 528 00:33:19,860 --> 00:33:26,180 I just know that he is an evil, lying bastard, 529 00:33:26,220 --> 00:33:30,020 and he could have done absolutely anything. 530 00:33:30,060 --> 00:33:32,900 He... Maybe he shot them both. 531 00:33:32,940 --> 00:33:34,860 I don't know. 532 00:33:34,900 --> 00:33:37,540 And the disposal of the bodies? 533 00:33:44,620 --> 00:33:48,820 He told me that if we called the police... 534 00:33:50,220 --> 00:33:53,180 ..they might not believe it was an accident, 535 00:33:53,220 --> 00:33:56,380 because of... MY criminal record. 536 00:33:58,740 --> 00:34:01,860 He-He wanted to take them both... 537 00:34:01,900 --> 00:34:04,380 QUIETLY: ..but I said I wanted to look after Precious. 538 00:34:06,100 --> 00:34:07,380 And I spent the... 539 00:34:08,860 --> 00:34:11,740 ..whole night with her, just holding her, 540 00:34:11,780 --> 00:34:14,820 and rocking her, and singing to her. 541 00:34:16,100 --> 00:34:18,060 Saying sorry to her. 542 00:34:20,420 --> 00:34:22,340 And then... 543 00:34:22,380 --> 00:34:24,700 And then it was morning. 544 00:34:24,740 --> 00:34:26,060 And... 545 00:34:27,460 --> 00:34:30,620 ..I walked out to the car, 546 00:34:30,660 --> 00:34:34,620 and there were workmen in the street. 547 00:34:36,740 --> 00:34:38,940 I have regretted what I did. 548 00:34:40,980 --> 00:34:43,420 Every single day since. 549 00:34:43,460 --> 00:34:47,860 Because it was a dreadful way to treat my daughter. 550 00:34:52,580 --> 00:34:54,180 But... 551 00:34:56,140 --> 00:34:57,540 ..that was me. 552 00:35:00,940 --> 00:35:06,780 A few weeks later, I took Precious's keys to get back in 553 00:35:06,820 --> 00:35:11,860 and had some friend put a plasterboard. 554 00:35:18,780 --> 00:35:20,300 OK, erm... CLEARS HER THROAT 555 00:35:20,340 --> 00:35:22,660 Just... Just one last question. 556 00:35:22,700 --> 00:35:27,180 Does the name Jay Royce mean anything to you? 557 00:35:30,340 --> 00:35:32,780 Who's Jay Royce? 558 00:35:58,380 --> 00:36:00,380 Jay? What d'you want? 559 00:36:01,660 --> 00:36:03,700 Can we talk about that night, please? 560 00:36:03,740 --> 00:36:06,780 Why? Nothing ever changes. 561 00:36:06,820 --> 00:36:08,940 People like me don't win against people like him. 562 00:36:11,300 --> 00:36:14,420 I'm so sorry that was yours and Joseph's experience. 563 00:36:16,660 --> 00:36:19,900 But we're here to tell you... 564 00:36:19,940 --> 00:36:23,500 that if you trust us, we will change that. 565 00:36:23,540 --> 00:36:27,620 We will listen to you, and we will act on what you tell us. 566 00:36:29,020 --> 00:36:31,380 But if you stay silent, then all I can say is, yeah... 567 00:36:32,700 --> 00:36:34,180 ..he probably will win again. 568 00:36:51,380 --> 00:36:54,220 I was one floor up. 569 00:36:54,260 --> 00:36:57,300 My mum didn't want me to meet my nan or him, so... 570 00:36:57,340 --> 00:36:58,980 I was playing on my Game Boy. 571 00:37:01,220 --> 00:37:04,380 I saw Hume arrive in his car out of a bedroom window. 572 00:37:05,580 --> 00:37:08,100 So... he arrived first? 573 00:37:09,340 --> 00:37:11,980 Good ten minutes before my nan. 574 00:37:12,020 --> 00:37:14,420 I weren't interested in meeting either of them, 575 00:37:14,460 --> 00:37:16,300 so I was just waiting for them to leave. 576 00:37:18,660 --> 00:37:20,700 Except then I started to hear shouting. 577 00:37:22,300 --> 00:37:25,340 Joe mainly, but Mum as well. 578 00:37:26,660 --> 00:37:28,900 Both screaming at Hume, really. 579 00:37:30,700 --> 00:37:32,340 So I walked out onto the landing. 580 00:37:33,420 --> 00:37:35,580 My brother was obviously off his face, 581 00:37:35,620 --> 00:37:37,940 pointing and jabbing at Hume. 582 00:37:37,980 --> 00:37:39,740 Telling him he was a dirty bastard, 583 00:37:39,780 --> 00:37:41,660 and that he should fuck him up proper 584 00:37:41,700 --> 00:37:44,060 for what he had done to our family... 585 00:37:44,100 --> 00:37:46,020 to our nan's mum. 586 00:37:46,060 --> 00:37:48,380 And he's screaming right in front of him, 587 00:37:48,420 --> 00:37:51,100 and all this spit's getting in Hume's face. 588 00:37:53,540 --> 00:37:56,100 Then suddenly, Hume's got his hand round Joe's neck, 589 00:37:56,140 --> 00:37:58,180 and he slammed him up against a wall. 590 00:37:59,540 --> 00:38:03,340 Said he could have him disappeared in an instant if he wanted. 591 00:38:03,380 --> 00:38:05,540 Cos he was that fucking powerful. 592 00:38:08,700 --> 00:38:10,780 And he's squeezing Joe's neck. 593 00:38:12,140 --> 00:38:13,900 And squeezing and squeezing, 594 00:38:13,940 --> 00:38:16,900 and I'm thinking he's gonna choke him. 595 00:38:16,940 --> 00:38:18,500 He's gonna kill him. 596 00:38:22,420 --> 00:38:25,860 Which is when Joe pulls out this gun from the back of his trousers. 597 00:38:27,340 --> 00:38:30,460 And Hume goes very fucking quiet very quick. 598 00:38:30,500 --> 00:38:33,060 Starts to back away with his hands up. 599 00:38:33,100 --> 00:38:34,340 My mum's shitting herself 600 00:38:34,380 --> 00:38:36,540 and telling Joe to put it down, but he won't. 601 00:38:36,580 --> 00:38:38,740 And he's still shouting back at both of them. 602 00:38:45,540 --> 00:38:48,460 And then my mum just makes a grab for it, 603 00:38:48,500 --> 00:38:51,700 and it all goes quiet as she wrestles with him. 604 00:38:51,740 --> 00:38:53,180 Then there's a bang. 605 00:38:55,500 --> 00:38:57,020 And she goes down. 606 00:38:58,340 --> 00:39:01,820 And Joe's in shock, man, and not really taking it all in. 607 00:39:01,860 --> 00:39:05,180 My mum's eyes are rolling up into her fucking head. 608 00:39:07,700 --> 00:39:10,060 And Hume's asking for the gun. 609 00:39:12,580 --> 00:39:14,660 Joe just gives it to him. 610 00:39:16,260 --> 00:39:18,420 Meek as a lamb now. 611 00:39:18,460 --> 00:39:21,300 Then Joe kneels by Mum to take her hand... 612 00:39:22,620 --> 00:39:24,780 ..which is when Hume shoots him. 613 00:39:26,740 --> 00:39:28,380 In the back of the head. 614 00:39:32,300 --> 00:39:34,860 And there was obviously nothing I could do. 615 00:39:34,900 --> 00:39:36,740 You know, I was 14. 616 00:39:37,860 --> 00:39:40,180 I was also terrified he'd hear me and he'd kill me. 617 00:39:40,220 --> 00:39:42,500 So I sort of just... 618 00:39:42,540 --> 00:39:44,180 I sort of just froze. 619 00:39:46,580 --> 00:39:48,620 And then I heard my nan's car arriving, 620 00:39:48,660 --> 00:39:51,380 and she walked in and just started wailing. 621 00:39:53,700 --> 00:39:55,580 So I used the noise to go upstairs. 622 00:39:58,380 --> 00:40:01,580 To the very top floor and hide in a cupboard under the eaves. 623 00:40:01,620 --> 00:40:03,820 I stayed there for two whole days. 624 00:40:05,220 --> 00:40:06,900 When I finally came down... 625 00:40:06,940 --> 00:40:09,580 the bodies had gone. 626 00:40:09,620 --> 00:40:11,500 Hume had gone. 627 00:40:11,540 --> 00:40:13,740 The blood had gone. 628 00:40:13,780 --> 00:40:16,140 Some of my mum's things were still there, like... 629 00:40:17,580 --> 00:40:19,860 Like, her laptop was... was in the drawer, 630 00:40:19,900 --> 00:40:23,420 and, erm... a few of her clothes, which I took. 631 00:40:27,420 --> 00:40:28,940 And then I just ran. 632 00:40:39,220 --> 00:40:42,100 We wonder how kids like him turn out like they do. 633 00:40:48,420 --> 00:40:51,500 Right, let's see what Hume has to say now. 634 00:40:54,620 --> 00:40:57,020 The lies that we tell ourselves. 635 00:40:59,460 --> 00:41:01,300 That that wasn't rape. 636 00:41:03,660 --> 00:41:05,940 That she liked me. 637 00:41:05,980 --> 00:41:09,500 That I was a good man, who'd led a good life, 638 00:41:09,540 --> 00:41:11,620 who'd leave good behind. 639 00:41:11,660 --> 00:41:14,540 Best part of my life... 640 00:41:14,580 --> 00:41:15,860 I truly believed that. 641 00:41:18,700 --> 00:41:21,140 Then in one instant... 642 00:41:21,180 --> 00:41:22,260 one look... 643 00:41:23,900 --> 00:41:25,220 ..it all fell away. 644 00:41:25,260 --> 00:41:27,420 I saw myself honestly. 645 00:41:30,220 --> 00:41:32,300 I couldn't bear it. 646 00:41:32,340 --> 00:41:33,900 To see who I really was. 647 00:41:35,020 --> 00:41:36,420 The awful truth. 648 00:41:37,740 --> 00:41:39,220 So I... 649 00:41:47,780 --> 00:41:49,860 I snuffed it out. 650 00:41:51,420 --> 00:41:54,860 So you shot Joseph Bell? 651 00:42:02,140 --> 00:42:05,380 Yes. I did. 652 00:42:10,260 --> 00:42:15,420 And I have tried so hard for the last six years 653 00:42:15,460 --> 00:42:17,380 to make some amends. 654 00:42:20,580 --> 00:42:24,540 But, of course, it was never even close to being enough. 655 00:42:26,100 --> 00:42:27,420 For that... 656 00:42:29,580 --> 00:42:31,060 ..for what I did... 657 00:42:33,060 --> 00:42:35,180 ..I am so, so... 658 00:42:38,540 --> 00:42:40,300 ..so sorry. 659 00:42:44,180 --> 00:42:45,700 SLOW CLAPPING 660 00:42:51,020 --> 00:42:53,180 I mean, I wouldn't give up the day job, 661 00:42:53,220 --> 00:42:55,660 but, er, there's definitely something there. 662 00:42:57,100 --> 00:42:59,700 You weren't trying to make amends, Mr Hume. 663 00:42:59,740 --> 00:43:02,740 You just saw the catastrophic effect of your life's work 664 00:43:02,780 --> 00:43:05,180 and realised that that's how you'd be remembered. 665 00:43:05,220 --> 00:43:07,180 You were just trying to improve your Wiki page. 666 00:43:09,380 --> 00:43:11,660 Yeah. We see you. 667 00:43:12,940 --> 00:43:15,620 Well, consider this, Lord Anthony Hume, 668 00:43:15,660 --> 00:43:18,540 you will only ever be remembered as a rapist 669 00:43:18,580 --> 00:43:20,780 who murdered his own great-grandson. 670 00:43:20,820 --> 00:43:22,740 That's your fucking legacy, fella. 671 00:43:24,060 --> 00:43:25,860 I hope they throw away the key. 672 00:43:27,700 --> 00:43:29,740 DOOR OPENS, CLOSES 673 00:43:33,340 --> 00:43:35,460 We'll get someone to take you to your cell. 674 00:43:57,340 --> 00:43:59,820 Are you Jay? Yes. 675 00:44:07,460 --> 00:44:09,060 Do you know who I am? 676 00:44:10,100 --> 00:44:11,100 I think so. 677 00:44:13,340 --> 00:44:15,420 I'm your nan, Jay. 678 00:44:17,540 --> 00:44:18,860 I'm Bele. 679 00:44:20,180 --> 00:44:21,340 Hello, Nan. 680 00:44:26,540 --> 00:44:31,300 I am so sorry, little one. 681 00:44:31,340 --> 00:44:34,460 I am so, so sorry. 682 00:44:34,500 --> 00:44:36,500 I told them, Nan. 683 00:44:36,540 --> 00:44:38,500 I told them he did it. 684 00:44:38,540 --> 00:44:40,500 I know, sweetheart. 685 00:44:41,820 --> 00:44:43,260 They rang. 686 00:44:44,660 --> 00:44:47,780 So now we know the truth. Except you don't. 687 00:44:49,020 --> 00:44:51,460 Sorry? I lied. 688 00:44:55,860 --> 00:44:57,460 Mum killed Joe. 689 00:44:57,500 --> 00:45:00,300 Accidentally, trying to get the gun off him. 690 00:45:00,340 --> 00:45:03,020 Then shot herself. SHE GASPS 691 00:45:03,060 --> 00:45:06,780 But it was all his fault, what happened to our family. 692 00:45:06,820 --> 00:45:11,140 'From him raping your mum to everything that come after, 693 00:45:11,180 --> 00:45:13,300 'it was all down to him. 694 00:45:13,340 --> 00:45:15,620 'So I just thought, "Fuck him," y'know?' 695 00:45:15,660 --> 00:45:17,980 What's good for the goose, man, innit? 696 00:45:18,020 --> 00:45:20,660 Just... fuck him. 697 00:45:34,340 --> 00:45:36,300 There you are. 698 00:45:36,340 --> 00:45:37,780 Sorry about earlier. 699 00:45:37,820 --> 00:45:41,260 That was, er... that was a bit unprofessional. 700 00:45:41,300 --> 00:45:42,540 No apology needed. 701 00:45:42,580 --> 00:45:44,620 You took the words right out of my mouth. 702 00:45:46,740 --> 00:45:48,020 CPS call yet? 703 00:45:48,060 --> 00:45:50,900 Said we can charge him with the murder and the rape. 704 00:45:50,940 --> 00:45:52,620 Nice! 705 00:45:54,460 --> 00:45:56,380 Wasn't expecting both. 706 00:45:56,420 --> 00:46:00,700 That's a 57-year-old crime, DCI James. 707 00:46:00,740 --> 00:46:03,180 A Bishop Street record. SHE CHUCKLES 708 00:46:03,220 --> 00:46:05,060 Well, for now. 709 00:46:06,540 --> 00:46:09,340 And it's Jessie, please. 710 00:46:11,260 --> 00:46:13,460 Jessie James. SHE CHUCKLES 711 00:46:13,500 --> 00:46:18,140 So, you ever held up a stagecoach? Held up a bar! 712 00:46:18,180 --> 00:46:20,900 Well, now you're talking. I'll get my horse. 713 00:46:20,940 --> 00:46:23,020 HE LAUGHS 714 00:46:25,020 --> 00:46:27,020 Subtitles by accessibility@itv.com 54223

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