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JESS: Are we saying that
we think this was Hume?
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Worst case, maybe three months.
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Which is not enough. Gatwick?
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They said you were a person
of interest in a murder.
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'If you could present
yourself at Bishop Street.'
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Help! Help! SHOUTS:
Armed police!
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I'm not Joseph Bell.
I'm Joe's half-brother.
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I need a break.
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I'm sorry, my love.
Steve, are you in there?
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The first company that Hume
worked for was the same company
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that Ebele Falade walked
into with an air pistol.
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She was shouting,
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"I wanna speak to my
dad, Tony bloody Hume."
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Did the caller say
who the body was?
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A young man named Joseph Bell.
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MUSIC: 'All We
Do' by Oh Wonder
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♪ All we do is hide away
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♪ All we do is All
we do is hide away
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♪ All we do is lie in wait
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♪ All we do is All
we do is lie in wait
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♪ I've been upside down
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♪ I don't want to be
The right way round
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♪ Can't find paradise
On the ground. ♪
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CHATTER
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SUNNY: And it is male?
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Looking at the brow ridge, the
mastoid process, I'd say yes.
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And young. Anything
else jumping out?
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Aside from the two bullet-shaped
holes in his skull? Apart from them.
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Not yet. This level
of decomposition,
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might that suggest how long
he's been here for, roughly?
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If you mean could it have
been around the same time
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as Precious Falade was killed,
then, yes, it's not inconsistent.
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OK. Thanks, Leanne.
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DNA sample as soon
as soon as, please.
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So, we need to speak
to the letting agency,
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get a list of everyone who's lived
here over the last ten years. Boss.
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And Anthony Hume...
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what have we not yet
done to place him
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at the scene of
Precious's murder?
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If he was there. He was there.
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All suggestions
gratefully received.
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I'll message the team.
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Anthony Hume?
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Yes?
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So...
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Wojski takes 2K
out of his savings
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on the 27th, in cash,
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puts them right
back in on the 28th.
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So, what did he do to
get his laptop back,
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without handing any money over?
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Exactly.
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We have nothing to say to you.
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So whichever tawdry
rag your working for,
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you're wasting your time.
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I'm his daughter.
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What kind of messed up
power game is this, Steve?
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It's no power game.
I just want to talk.
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So we do it on the phone.
You don't just turn up here.
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You left this house,
remember? I'm sorry.
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And FYI, any phone call's
going to be relatively brief,
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on account of the fact
you screwed my sister.
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Except I didn't. What?
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I did kiss her, once.
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Which itself is
unforgivable, I know, but...
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..we never slept together. It
was more of an emotional thing.
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So, my sister is telling me a
lie that makes her look worse?
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Your sister has a lot of
issues. I think we know this.
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Look, Jess, I messed up, massively,
and I'm incredibly sorry for that.
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But I felt that you'd abandoned me,
and I wanted you to hurt like I did,
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which is why I said
I wanted to leave.
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But now I've calmed
down a bit, and...
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..I know I don't.
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I don't think I believe
a word you just said.
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Jess, please, I
swear it's the truth.
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Jess! Can we at
least talk tonight?
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I found out on my 18th birthday
and contacted him when I was 23.
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I'm now 59.
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And what sort of a relationship
have you had with him in that time?
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In the multiple decades
he's lied to you, you mean?
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Yes. Almost
entirely financial.
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He's given you
money? Reparation.
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Yes. So can I ask what
it is you came here for?
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Well, obviously to see him.
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There were things
that I wanted to say
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before it became impossible.
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But I can see that I
am already too late,
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so maybe you can
pass on a message.
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Can you tell him, please...
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..that I loathe him?
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That I have always loathed him.
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And I always will. Right.
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But for all your loathing, you
still obviously took his money.
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And there we are.
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You screwed multiple
generations of my family over,
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and then think it's OK
because I got some money?
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I didn't screw any one over.
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Maybe not... as directly as him.
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But your privilege, your
comfort, your happiness,
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this house, in fact,
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were all built on the
bones of people like me.
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Weren't they? I'd like
you to leave now, please.
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You knew what he
did, didn't you?
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You knew the policies that
he espoused for decades.
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You knew the millions
of lives that it ruined.
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Mine included.
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And you did nothing.
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You just looked the other way.
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So I didn't really
come to speak to you.
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But now I'm here...
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fuck you, too.
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I loathe the pair of you.
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WHIRRING
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So, what I really need is a list
of all of the ground-floor tenants
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from the past ten years.
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Now, I realise that
might take a while,
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so can you start by telling me
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who the tenant was
in July 2016, please?
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And that was from when to when?
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OK. A list of other tenants
would be very useful.
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You've been very helpful.
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Thank you very much.
Yes! Thank you, God.
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So, the tenant of the garden
flat from May 2015 to August 2016
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was Ebele Falade.
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MAN ON RADIO: 'The body,
discovered buried in the garden
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'of a flat in Greenford,
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'is believed to be connected to
the recent discovery of remains
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'found in a house
in Hammersmith.'
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FADING: 'Police investigators
on the scene...'
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Local authorities were
dealing with huge cuts,
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and we were all basically
doing the jobs of two people.
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So you were perma exhausted.
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Multiple 12-hour days,
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and from dealing, day in, day
out, with people who had been...
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abandoned.
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People who were angry
and in constant crisis.
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People who blamed you.
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And over a sustained period, that
really began to take its toll.
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I was living on my
own at this point,
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and I'd started to feel
very isolated, very low.
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And I-I just started
to fixate on some...
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..on some really bad thoughts.
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About women and...
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taking certain
sorts of photos...
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of them...
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..in public.
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And then in late 2015, I
was attacked on the street.
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And then in February 2016,
outside my synagogue.
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And it was about a week
after the second attack
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that I took my first photo.
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On the tube. You think
the two are connected?
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No.
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Well, maybe. I don't know.
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I'm certainly not trying to
offer it up as an excuse.
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I'm just saying, you grow up
being made to feel different.
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When we first moved to
UK, all through school
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then actually being physically
attacked for being different.
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And it can affect you.
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Make you do bad shit.
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And these photos, they...
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..made you feel,
what, better or...?
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In the moment, maybe, but...
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..in the long term, they
made me feel much worse.
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But you carried on
taking them, Karol.
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Eventually even
taking them at work.
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Yeah. Why?
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Why do any of us do
things we know are wrong?
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Because that momentary relief
is better than nothing.
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I'd like, if I may, to take you
back to the 26th of June 2016.
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Er, which was the day that
you visited Precious Falade
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in a house in Hammersmith.
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And it was also the last
time you ever saw her,
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according to your statement
when we spoke in Paris. Yeah.
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And was this also the day that you
accidentally left your laptop there?
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You should assume we
know everything, Karol.
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Yeah. And on that laptop,
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she found a number of
your upskirting photos
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and tried to blackmail
you for them.
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Yeah. For £2,000?
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Yeah.
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Showing the suspect
exhibit KW01,
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a bank statement
belonging to him.
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And if you have a look at the
highlighted entries there, Karol,
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you can see that you did in fact
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withdraw 2,000, in
cash, on the 27th.
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But then, just below that entry,
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you deposited the exact
same amount again in cash
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into the same
account on the 28th.
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Which suggests to me that
you never paid her the money.
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I didn't.
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So, could you tell
us, then, please,
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how you did manage to
get your laptop back?
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Can I, erm... drop these
off for a patient, please?
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What ward? Erm...
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I dunno, but her
name's Sophie Coulson.
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She hit her head and...
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Just tell her I'm sorry, yeah?
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The first thing I noticed
as I walked up the drive way
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was that there was a
car parked up outside.
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OK, and this was the day after
you say you last saw her?
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Yeah. So, you went in?
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Yeah. And what happened then?
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Well, I couldn't see anyone,
so I called out her name.
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No-one answered, so I
walked straight ahead
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into the sitting room, where
we'd met the day before.
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The floor was wet.
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Like, all over.
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Like someone had just
mopped it. But no Precious.
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And then in the corner, I
saw my laptop on the table.
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This was my property, you know?
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So I walked over and
took it and then left.
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It was as I was heading for
the front door that I saw him.
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An old man at the
end of the corridor,
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with a mop and bucket.
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Did you speak to him?
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I called out, "Hello," and
he turned, clearly surprised.
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I introduced myself and told him
that I'd come to see Precious.
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He quickly said that she was out
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and that he'd tell her that
I'd come over. Anything else?
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He'd asked if I'd been into
the main room to look for her.
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I said no and then left.
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Could you describe him?
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Late 60s, early 70s.
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Well-spoken. OK.
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Erm... So, the day after
this, you resigned.
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And then three weeks later,
you left the country for good.
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I assumed that she'd have
downloaded the images elsewhere
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and would continue to extort me.
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I felt my life in
England was over.
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Listen...
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..you'd be hard-pressed to
find a man who hated himself
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more than me for what I did do.
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All the women I abused
by taking those photos.
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I hope I've become
a better person,
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but I'm also fully aware that
I may well be kidding myself
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that I only did it because
I was depressed or lonely.
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I mean, maybe I actually did it
because I'm a fucked-up human being.
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I genuinely don't know
the answer to that.
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But one thing I am sure of...
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I never saw Precious
Falade after the 26th,
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and I never hurt her.
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DNA tests confirm that Jay Royce
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is indeed the child of
Precious Falade and Eric Royce,
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and the body in the garden
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is the child of Precious
Falade and David Bell.
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Joseph Bell. Mm-hm.
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Ebele never mentioned she
had a second grandchild.
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Do we think it's
possible she didn't know?
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I think it's perfectly
possible. The boy was invisible.
249
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Off the radar of social
services, the education system.
250
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The real question is,
what does he know?
251
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Indeed. OK.
252
00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,040
Murray, what have
you got for us?
253
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Forensics have
confirmed that a bullet
254
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found in the wall
at Waterman Road
255
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was fired from the same gun as
the one that killed Precious.
256
00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:24,880
Yeah. Not a surprise. Excellent.
257
00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:26,840
Anything else? Yeah.
258
00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:30,880
You wanted to try and place Hume
at the murder scene on the 26th.
259
00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,920
I mean, my name was on the contract,
but he paid the actual rent,
260
00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:35,600
so he absolutely knew
where the flat was.
261
00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:36,880
He probably had keys. Who did?
262
00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:38,360
And the day after
it all happened,
263
00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,080
he paid for me to go
away for a few days.
264
00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,840
He sent me away to bloody Cornwall,
Dave! Calm down, Bele. Who did?
265
00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,440
My father! He put Joe there.
266
00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,120
I thought you never
knew your father.
267
00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,280
Bele?
268
00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:51,680
Bele?!
269
00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,360
Did you kill your
granddaughter, Mr Hume?
270
00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,760
I don't have a granddaughter.
I have three grandsons.
271
00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,920
I'm talking about
Precious Falade.
272
00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,160
What evidence do you
have that Precious Falade
273
00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:02,800
is Mr Hume's granddaughter?
274
00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,520
We can do DNA checks
in time, but, for now,
275
00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,560
I think his daughter Ebele
Falade will confirm this.
276
00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,400
And if he denies
Ebele is his daughter,
277
00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,360
well, then I'd simply ask why
he's been paying her money
278
00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,120
via standing order for the
past 30-something years.
279
00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:17,400
No, I didn't kill her.
280
00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,160
Did you kill your
great-grandson, Joseph Bell?
281
00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:23,440
No, of course not.
282
00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,880
Were you with either of
them the night they died?
283
00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:27,120
No.
284
00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:32,320
Or at or near 64 Waterman Road, on
the 26th and 27th of June, 2016?
285
00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,560
No. And when was the last
time you saw either of them?
286
00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,280
I've never even
met either of them.
287
00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,600
I'm showing the
suspect exhibit TH01 -
288
00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:46,240
a copy of a credit card
statement belonging to Mr Hume.
289
00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:50,800
Mr Hume, could you read out
the fifth credit down, please?
290
00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:56,600
It's a payment to an Esso
filling station for £60.
291
00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,720
26th of June, 2016.
292
00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:04,720
Thank you. And the address
of the petrol station?
293
00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,080
Inverdale Road. Postcode?
294
00:17:07,120 --> 00:17:08,640
W67 CX.
295
00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,320
Which is, in case you
don't know, Hammersmith,
296
00:17:11,360 --> 00:17:15,160
and Inverdale Road is the road
at the bottom of Waterman Road.
297
00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:19,160
And, er, do you see a time
for the payment there?
298
00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:20,600
19:23.
299
00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,600
So just before half seven, on
the night that Precious died,
300
00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:28,280
we now have you no
more than 100 yards
301
00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:29,760
from the house in
which she died.
302
00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,480
Is there anything you'd
like to add? No comment.
303
00:17:34,360 --> 00:17:38,640
So, erm, the day after
this, the 27th of June,
304
00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,400
we also have a witness
who says they saw you
305
00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,560
with a bucket and mop
306
00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:48,560
near a room shown by forensics to
have been spattered with blood,
307
00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,680
which we have since identified
as Precious Falade's.
308
00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,200
What witness?
309
00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,160
Her social worker.
310
00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,320
You refused consent
for a video ID earlier,
311
00:17:58,360 --> 00:18:00,400
so we took a covert
ID in custody,
312
00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:04,360
and our witness identified
you very easily, Mr Hume.
313
00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:05,840
What's your response to that?
314
00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,200
LAWYER CLEARS THROAT
315
00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:14,240
WHISPERS: Lord Hume, I think
the best course is to...
316
00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,040
No comment. Really?!
317
00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,160
Because maybe there's a perfectly
innocent explanation as to why,
318
00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,360
the day after a murder was
committed in that room,
319
00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,480
you were seen in that house,
320
00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,280
clearly having just mopped
blood off the floor.
321
00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,800
And if there is, then
this is your chance now
322
00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,520
to tell us your
side of the story.
323
00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:41,760
Or Corfu.
324
00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,360
Mike and Liz went there last
year and absolutely loved it.
325
00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,800
Said it was the prettiest
village. Water's crystal clear.
326
00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:49,560
They said they'd go
back in a heartbeat.
327
00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,040
Hello. You all right, love?
328
00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,640
There's something I
need to tell you about.
329
00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,200
I'm gonna go and stay
with Jordan for a bit.
330
00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,760
He's found a new
squat with hot water.
331
00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,200
You need to sort your
life out, J, man.
332
00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,840
I only found out about Bele...
333
00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,840
..when she was in her early 20s.
334
00:19:26,120 --> 00:19:27,520
The result of a very...
335
00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:33,000
..brief relationship I'd
had with her mother in 1963.
336
00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,120
The mother died
when Bele was young.
337
00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,200
And so as soon as I found
out I had a daughter,
338
00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,360
I obviously offered
her financial support,
339
00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,400
which she accepted.
340
00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,760
There was little further
contact, which was her choice.
341
00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:52,520
I knew that she had had a
daughter herself in the...
342
00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,160
in the mid-'80s,
343
00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:58,040
but I had no contact
with her until late 2015
344
00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,680
when she called me
out of the blue...
345
00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,440
..and also wanted money.
346
00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,440
Which, again,
willingly, I-I gave her.
347
00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,880
A few weeks before she...
348
00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,960
..she died...
349
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:19,960
I got a call from Bele telling
me that Precious was homeless.
350
00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,160
Waterman Road was
empty at that time
351
00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,040
and, of course, I
wanted to help, so...
352
00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:26,280
I met her...
353
00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,640
..to give her some keys
and let her in, and...
354
00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,640
The meeting was
brief but cordial.
355
00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,840
She'd obviously lost
her way in life,
356
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,360
and I felt very sorry for her.
357
00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,080
HE SIGHS
358
00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:47,520
The night she died...
359
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,120
..a man identifying
himself as Precious's son
360
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,120
called me from Waterman Road.
361
00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:57,880
He, er...
362
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:05,200
He was threatening all sorts of
things, and again, wanted money.
363
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,520
I rang Bele, and...
364
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,200
..she said she'd drive
there immediately.
365
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:13,800
But, erm...
366
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:18,920
HE SIGHS
367
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,880
Well, I-I also decided
to drive there myself.
368
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,400
I got there first.
369
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,760
To find that Joseph,
Precious's son...
370
00:21:34,120 --> 00:21:35,600
..was in a very bad way.
371
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,160
He seemed to be coming
down off something
372
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:39,920
and was clearly very disturbed,
373
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,480
threatening violence
to me and his mother.
374
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:49,000
Unless I took him to a cash machine
and got out thousands of pounds.
375
00:21:50,360 --> 00:21:51,800
And then...
376
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,040
..quite without warning, he...
377
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,320
..he pulled out a gun.
378
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,080
Which he proceeded
to point at me.
379
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,320
Precious was horrified, and...
and before I could stop her,
380
00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:09,240
she lunged for it, and it...
381
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,720
It went off.
382
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,880
Hitting him in the head.
383
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:22,320
He fell.
384
00:22:22,360 --> 00:22:25,120
I went to help him, and, er...
385
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,320
..as I was trying to get him
into the recovery position...
386
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,440
..there was another shot.
387
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:38,560
And I looked around, and Precious
had turned the gun on to herself.
388
00:22:40,360 --> 00:22:42,120
Straight into her chest.
389
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,680
She died pretty instantly.
390
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,240
Joseph's heart stopped
within seconds.
391
00:22:52,360 --> 00:22:54,480
I never even had a
chance to call for help.
392
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,400
And into this...
393
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,720
nightmare walked Bele.
394
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,360
I explained to her what
had happened. I'm...
395
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,120
I'm not sure she
entirely believed me,
396
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:12,920
even though it was true.
397
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,600
Obviously, we were
both in pieces.
398
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,600
And that was how I...
399
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,560
HE EXHALES
400
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,800
..I ended up saying
that I would...
401
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,640
..dispose of Joseph's body.
402
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:39,520
And how I ended up leaving
Bele with her daughter.
403
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:43,480
So, you buried Joseph Bell
404
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,960
in the garden of your
daughter's flat in Greenford?
405
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,560
Yes. And why there
specifically?
406
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,520
I had keys.
407
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,440
It was private.
Not for deflection?
408
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:02,480
To incriminate her if
anything ever went wrong?
409
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:03,800
No.
410
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:09,560
So, why did you anonymously call
the front desk of this station
411
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,520
last night and tell
us where his body was?
412
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,080
I panicked.
413
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,760
And did you know that Bele had
hidden Precious in the fireplace?
414
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,680
No.
415
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,400
She told me she'd buried
her in woods somewhere.
416
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,640
So this...
417
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,440
this is the truth now?
418
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:38,920
Yes.
419
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,720
Because you've lied to
us repeatedly, Lord Hume.
420
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,320
Both times we've questioned you.
421
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,000
This is the truth.
422
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,000
I swear.
423
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,840
We need Ebele Falade.
424
00:25:25,460 --> 00:25:27,700
CHILDREN LAUGHING UPSTAIRS
425
00:25:30,020 --> 00:25:33,020
STEVE MIMICKING ROBOT: Come on.
Firstly, we need to clean our teeth.
426
00:25:33,060 --> 00:25:35,980
We need to do our stories.
Time is running out.
427
00:25:36,020 --> 00:25:37,940
CHILD SQUEALS
428
00:25:37,980 --> 00:25:40,740
Wait. Five, four, three...
429
00:25:40,780 --> 00:25:45,140
His behaviour has been
disgraceful, which he realises.
430
00:25:45,180 --> 00:25:47,660
He loves you, Jess.
431
00:25:47,700 --> 00:25:49,220
And needs you.
432
00:25:49,260 --> 00:25:51,020
And the kids need him.
433
00:25:52,220 --> 00:25:53,740
I don't believe him, Mum.
434
00:25:55,140 --> 00:25:59,420
No, I'm sure you don't,
and it's shite, but...
435
00:25:59,460 --> 00:26:00,660
nothing's perfect.
436
00:26:02,860 --> 00:26:04,420
Not even you. Hm!
437
00:26:04,460 --> 00:26:06,620
Call you later. OK.
438
00:26:13,340 --> 00:26:16,820
CHATTER CONTINUES UPSTAIRS
439
00:26:16,860 --> 00:26:18,740
CHILD SQUEALS, LAUGHTER
440
00:26:46,420 --> 00:26:50,900
So, my mum, Yetunde, was a
second-generation Nigerian.
441
00:26:50,940 --> 00:26:54,260
Her parents came over
here after the war,
442
00:26:54,300 --> 00:26:56,900
and she was born in 1946.
443
00:26:57,940 --> 00:27:02,580
And in August 1963, age 17,
444
00:27:02,620 --> 00:27:06,700
she got a job as a cleaner
in the city stockbroker's
445
00:27:06,740 --> 00:27:10,180
where her parents already
worked in the canteen.
446
00:27:10,220 --> 00:27:15,700
The son of one of the directors
was working there in the months
447
00:27:15,740 --> 00:27:19,020
between Wallingham
and Cambridge,
448
00:27:19,060 --> 00:27:23,220
and one night, after
drinking with work friends,
449
00:27:23,260 --> 00:27:26,500
he went back to the office
late to pick up some papers
450
00:27:26,540 --> 00:27:30,620
and encountered my mum,
who was working nights.
451
00:27:30,660 --> 00:27:36,180
And after pressuring her to
have a few drinks with him...
452
00:27:38,380 --> 00:27:40,100
..raped her.
453
00:27:41,180 --> 00:27:46,180
She went back home that night
and, of course, told her parents.
454
00:27:46,220 --> 00:27:48,180
Who blamed her.
455
00:27:48,220 --> 00:27:53,020
And she did consider going
to the police, but, er...
456
00:27:53,060 --> 00:27:56,300
in the end, didn't because...
457
00:27:56,340 --> 00:27:59,620
he was the rich,
white, son of the boss.
458
00:27:59,660 --> 00:28:02,260
And... she wasn't.
459
00:28:03,380 --> 00:28:07,620
A few weeks later, she
realised that she was pregnant
460
00:28:07,660 --> 00:28:12,580
and wrote to the son, who
was now at university.
461
00:28:12,620 --> 00:28:15,420
And... he didn't reply,
462
00:28:15,460 --> 00:28:18,820
so she wrote to his father -
463
00:28:18,860 --> 00:28:21,060
Sir Henry Hume...
464
00:28:22,300 --> 00:28:26,540
..who asked her to
come into his office
465
00:28:26,580 --> 00:28:29,820
and told her that if she
pursued this any further,
466
00:28:29,860 --> 00:28:32,740
he'd sack her and her parents.
467
00:28:33,900 --> 00:28:37,420
Morgan Lavelle had
originally made their money
468
00:28:37,460 --> 00:28:39,260
from the sugar trade,
469
00:28:39,300 --> 00:28:42,060
so she really shouldn't
have been so surprised.
470
00:28:43,140 --> 00:28:49,380
And on the 3rd of
March, 1964, I was born.
471
00:28:50,660 --> 00:28:53,860
Three weeks later,
she wrote me a letter
472
00:28:53,900 --> 00:28:58,340
which, erm, was meant to be
given to me on my 18th birthday.
473
00:28:58,380 --> 00:29:00,860
And deposited it with
a local solicitor...
474
00:29:02,340 --> 00:29:03,700
..and...
475
00:29:05,820 --> 00:29:08,020
..jumped in the Thames.
476
00:29:10,300 --> 00:29:14,580
I was raised by my
grandparents, who...
477
00:29:14,620 --> 00:29:19,100
saw me as a child of evil
478
00:29:19,140 --> 00:29:24,500
and filled me with
shame and self-hatred.
479
00:29:25,700 --> 00:29:31,060
And after I read
that, I realised why.
480
00:29:31,100 --> 00:29:36,460
So if he told you that
he was decent about it
481
00:29:36,500 --> 00:29:42,540
when I finally approached
him, then, again, he lied.
482
00:29:42,580 --> 00:29:46,380
He was much more interested
in protecting his reputation
483
00:29:46,420 --> 00:29:52,300
and made a number of threats
of violence against me.
484
00:29:52,340 --> 00:29:57,340
I ignored them, and I
got his DNA from a glass
485
00:29:57,380 --> 00:29:59,540
at a lecture that he did,
486
00:29:59,580 --> 00:30:04,020
and had a test done and
told him that I would go to
487
00:30:04,060 --> 00:30:07,900
the News Of The World
with the result.
488
00:30:07,940 --> 00:30:10,940
That was 1988. Yeah.
489
00:30:10,980 --> 00:30:14,580
After that, he was a pussy cat.
490
00:30:16,380 --> 00:30:21,540
So nothing about him
is what it seems.
491
00:30:24,500 --> 00:30:28,300
And whatever he told
you about that night,
492
00:30:28,340 --> 00:30:33,460
whatever he told me, won't
be what actually happened.
493
00:30:33,500 --> 00:30:36,820
So, why don't you tell us
what you witnessed there?
494
00:30:56,340 --> 00:30:59,580
He called me and said that...
495
00:30:59,620 --> 00:31:02,740
Joseph had called
him, threatening him.
496
00:31:02,780 --> 00:31:06,060
Did Joseph know that this
was his great grandfather?
497
00:31:06,100 --> 00:31:11,140
I had told Precious about
Hume a few months before.
498
00:31:11,180 --> 00:31:13,300
I guess she had
then told Joseph.
499
00:31:13,340 --> 00:31:16,260
And why hadn't you told
her about him before then?
500
00:31:17,420 --> 00:31:23,140
Because I knew that she would
mess up the financial arrangement.
501
00:31:24,220 --> 00:31:26,180
Which I needed.
502
00:31:27,340 --> 00:31:29,900
So? So, erm...
503
00:31:30,900 --> 00:31:36,100
After my father called me, we
both headed to Waterman Road.
504
00:31:36,140 --> 00:31:39,940
And when I arrived,
I walked in...
505
00:31:41,100 --> 00:31:45,580
..to a vision from hell.
506
00:31:45,620 --> 00:31:51,980
My daughter was already dead,
and my grandson was dying.
507
00:31:52,020 --> 00:31:57,780
And my father told me that my
daughter had shot her son...
508
00:31:57,820 --> 00:32:00,820
accidentally, and
then shot herself.
509
00:32:00,860 --> 00:32:05,460
Did he tell you
how that happened?
510
00:32:05,500 --> 00:32:08,540
He said that Joseph
had taken drugs,
511
00:32:08,580 --> 00:32:11,660
and that there'd been some
sort of row about money,
512
00:32:11,700 --> 00:32:15,740
and that he'd pointed
a gun at Hume,
513
00:32:15,780 --> 00:32:18,140
and that Precious had
tried to get it off him,
514
00:32:18,180 --> 00:32:21,300
and it had gone
off, hitting Joe.
515
00:32:21,340 --> 00:32:24,780
And she'd then
turned it on herself.
516
00:32:24,820 --> 00:32:28,660
OK. And did you ever question
this version of events?
517
00:32:28,700 --> 00:32:31,620
Oh... No, not in the moment, no.
518
00:32:31,660 --> 00:32:34,700
You know, I was in
shock, obviously.
519
00:32:34,740 --> 00:32:38,620
And also, I'd only met
Joseph three or four times,
520
00:32:38,660 --> 00:32:40,460
and I knew that
he'd already been in
521
00:32:40,500 --> 00:32:45,020
a young offenders institute
for assault using a gun.
522
00:32:45,060 --> 00:32:49,460
And in that moment, in
the panic and horror,
523
00:32:49,500 --> 00:32:52,700
being told that by
Lord Anthony Hume,
524
00:32:52,740 --> 00:32:57,100
I'm embarrassed to say that
I... I... I believed him.
525
00:32:59,100 --> 00:33:02,020
Do you believe it now? No. No.
526
00:33:03,100 --> 00:33:04,700
So, what do you think happened?
527
00:33:06,180 --> 00:33:07,620
I don't know.
528
00:33:07,660 --> 00:33:13,980
I just know that he is
an evil, lying bastard,
529
00:33:14,020 --> 00:33:17,820
and he could have done
absolutely anything.
530
00:33:17,860 --> 00:33:20,700
He... Maybe he shot them both.
531
00:33:20,740 --> 00:33:22,660
I don't know.
532
00:33:22,700 --> 00:33:25,340
And the disposal of the bodies?
533
00:33:32,420 --> 00:33:36,620
He told me that if we
called the police...
534
00:33:38,020 --> 00:33:40,980
..they might not believe
it was an accident,
535
00:33:41,020 --> 00:33:44,180
because of... MY
criminal record.
536
00:33:46,540 --> 00:33:49,660
He-He wanted to
take them both...
537
00:33:49,700 --> 00:33:52,180
QUIETLY: but I said I wanted
to look after Precious.
538
00:33:53,900 --> 00:33:55,180
And I spent the...
539
00:33:56,660 --> 00:33:59,540
..whole night with
her, just holding her,
540
00:33:59,580 --> 00:34:02,620
and rocking her,
and singing to her.
541
00:34:03,900 --> 00:34:05,860
Saying sorry to her.
542
00:34:08,220 --> 00:34:10,140
And then...
543
00:34:10,180 --> 00:34:12,500
And then it was morning.
544
00:34:12,540 --> 00:34:13,860
And...
545
00:34:15,260 --> 00:34:18,420
..I walked out to the car,
546
00:34:18,460 --> 00:34:22,420
and there were
workmen in the street.
547
00:34:24,540 --> 00:34:26,740
I have regretted what I did.
548
00:34:28,780 --> 00:34:31,220
Every single day since.
549
00:34:31,260 --> 00:34:35,660
Because it was a dreadful
way to treat my daughter.
550
00:34:40,380 --> 00:34:41,980
But...
551
00:34:43,940 --> 00:34:45,340
..that was me.
552
00:34:48,740 --> 00:34:54,580
A few weeks later, I took
Precious's keys to get back in
553
00:34:54,620 --> 00:34:59,660
and had some friend
put a plasterboard.
554
00:35:06,580 --> 00:35:08,100
OK, erm... CLEARS HER THROAT
555
00:35:08,140 --> 00:35:10,460
Just... Just one last question.
556
00:35:10,500 --> 00:35:14,980
Does the name Jay Royce
mean anything to you?
557
00:35:18,140 --> 00:35:20,580
Who's Jay Royce?
558
00:35:40,180 --> 00:35:42,180
Jay? What d'you want?
559
00:35:43,460 --> 00:35:45,500
Can we talk about
that night, please?
560
00:35:45,540 --> 00:35:48,580
Why? Nothing ever changes.
561
00:35:48,620 --> 00:35:50,740
People like me don't win
against people like him.
562
00:35:53,100 --> 00:35:56,220
I'm so sorry that was yours
and Joseph's experience.
563
00:35:58,460 --> 00:36:01,700
But we're here to tell you...
564
00:36:01,740 --> 00:36:05,300
that if you trust us,
we will change that.
565
00:36:05,340 --> 00:36:09,420
We will listen to you, and we
will act on what you tell us.
566
00:36:10,820 --> 00:36:13,180
But if you stay silent, then
all I can say is, yeah...
567
00:36:14,500 --> 00:36:15,980
..he probably will win again.
568
00:36:33,180 --> 00:36:36,020
I was one floor up.
569
00:36:36,060 --> 00:36:39,100
My mum didn't want me to
meet my nan or him, so...
570
00:36:39,140 --> 00:36:40,780
I was playing on my Game Boy.
571
00:36:43,020 --> 00:36:46,180
I saw Hume arrive in his
car out of a bedroom window.
572
00:36:47,380 --> 00:36:49,900
So... he arrived first?
573
00:36:51,140 --> 00:36:53,780
Good ten minutes before my nan.
574
00:36:53,820 --> 00:36:56,220
I weren't interested in
meeting either of them,
575
00:36:56,260 --> 00:36:58,100
so I was just waiting
for them to leave.
576
00:37:00,460 --> 00:37:02,500
Except then I started
to hear shouting.
577
00:37:04,100 --> 00:37:07,140
Joe mainly, but Mum as well.
578
00:37:08,460 --> 00:37:10,700
Both screaming at Hume, really.
579
00:37:12,500 --> 00:37:14,140
So I walked out
onto the landing.
580
00:37:15,220 --> 00:37:17,380
My brother was
obviously off his face,
581
00:37:17,420 --> 00:37:19,740
pointing and jabbing at Hume.
582
00:37:19,780 --> 00:37:21,540
Telling him he was
a dirty bastard,
583
00:37:21,580 --> 00:37:23,460
and that he should
fuck him up proper
584
00:37:23,500 --> 00:37:25,860
for what he had done
to our family...
585
00:37:25,900 --> 00:37:27,820
to our nan's mum.
586
00:37:27,860 --> 00:37:30,180
And he's screaming
right in front of him,
587
00:37:30,220 --> 00:37:32,900
and all this spit's
getting in Hume's face.
588
00:37:35,340 --> 00:37:37,900
Then suddenly, Hume's got
his hand round Joe's neck,
589
00:37:37,940 --> 00:37:39,980
and he slammed him
up against a wall.
590
00:37:41,340 --> 00:37:45,140
Said he could have him disappeared
in an instant if he wanted.
591
00:37:45,180 --> 00:37:47,340
Cos he was that
fucking powerful.
592
00:37:50,500 --> 00:37:52,580
And he's squeezing Joe's neck.
593
00:37:53,940 --> 00:37:55,700
And squeezing and squeezing,
594
00:37:55,740 --> 00:37:58,700
and I'm thinking
he's gonna choke him.
595
00:37:58,740 --> 00:38:00,300
He's gonna kill him.
596
00:38:04,220 --> 00:38:07,660
Which is when Joe pulls out this
gun from the back of his trousers.
597
00:38:09,140 --> 00:38:12,260
And Hume goes very
fucking quiet very quick.
598
00:38:12,300 --> 00:38:14,860
Starts to back away
with his hands up.
599
00:38:14,900 --> 00:38:16,140
My mum's shitting herself
600
00:38:16,180 --> 00:38:18,340
and telling Joe to put
it down, but he won't.
601
00:38:18,380 --> 00:38:20,540
And he's still shouting
back at both of them.
602
00:38:27,340 --> 00:38:30,260
And then my mum just
makes a grab for it,
603
00:38:30,300 --> 00:38:33,500
and it all goes quiet as
she wrestles with him.
604
00:38:33,540 --> 00:38:34,980
Then there's a bang.
605
00:38:37,300 --> 00:38:38,820
And she goes down.
606
00:38:40,140 --> 00:38:43,620
And Joe's in shock, man, and
not really taking it all in.
607
00:38:43,660 --> 00:38:46,980
My mum's eyes are rolling
up into her fucking head.
608
00:38:49,500 --> 00:38:51,860
And Hume's asking for the gun.
609
00:38:54,380 --> 00:38:56,460
Joe just gives it to him.
610
00:38:58,060 --> 00:39:00,220
Meek as a lamb now.
611
00:39:00,260 --> 00:39:03,100
Then Joe kneels by Mum
to take her hand...
612
00:39:04,420 --> 00:39:06,580
..which is when Hume shoots him.
613
00:39:08,540 --> 00:39:10,180
In the back of the head.
614
00:39:14,100 --> 00:39:16,660
And there was obviously
nothing I could do.
615
00:39:16,700 --> 00:39:18,540
You know, I was 14.
616
00:39:19,660 --> 00:39:21,980
I was also terrified he'd
hear me and he'd kill me.
617
00:39:22,020 --> 00:39:24,300
So I sort of just...
618
00:39:24,340 --> 00:39:25,980
I sort of just froze.
619
00:39:28,380 --> 00:39:30,420
And then I heard my
nan's car arriving,
620
00:39:30,460 --> 00:39:33,180
and she walked in and
just started wailing.
621
00:39:35,500 --> 00:39:37,380
So I used the noise
to go upstairs.
622
00:39:40,180 --> 00:39:43,380
To the very top floor and hide
in a cupboard under the eaves.
623
00:39:43,420 --> 00:39:45,620
I stayed there for
two whole days.
624
00:39:47,020 --> 00:39:48,700
When I finally came down...
625
00:39:48,740 --> 00:39:51,380
the bodies had gone.
626
00:39:51,420 --> 00:39:53,300
Hume had gone.
627
00:39:53,340 --> 00:39:55,540
The blood had gone.
628
00:39:55,580 --> 00:39:57,940
Some of my mum's things
were still there, like...
629
00:39:59,380 --> 00:40:01,660
Like, her laptop was...
was in the drawer,
630
00:40:01,700 --> 00:40:05,220
and, erm... a few of her
clothes, which I took.
631
00:40:09,220 --> 00:40:10,740
And then I just ran.
632
00:40:21,020 --> 00:40:23,900
We wonder how kids like
him turn out like they do.
633
00:40:30,220 --> 00:40:33,300
Right, let's see what
Hume has to say now.
634
00:40:36,420 --> 00:40:38,820
The lies that we tell ourselves.
635
00:40:41,260 --> 00:40:43,100
That that wasn't rape.
636
00:40:45,460 --> 00:40:47,740
That she liked me.
637
00:40:47,780 --> 00:40:51,300
That I was a good man,
who'd led a good life,
638
00:40:51,340 --> 00:40:53,420
who'd leave good behind.
639
00:40:53,460 --> 00:40:56,340
Best part of my life...
640
00:40:56,380 --> 00:40:57,660
I truly believed that.
641
00:41:00,500 --> 00:41:02,940
Then in one instant...
642
00:41:02,980 --> 00:41:04,060
one look...
643
00:41:05,700 --> 00:41:07,020
..it all fell away.
644
00:41:07,060 --> 00:41:09,220
I saw myself honestly.
645
00:41:12,020 --> 00:41:14,100
I couldn't bear it.
646
00:41:14,140 --> 00:41:15,700
To see who I really was.
647
00:41:16,820 --> 00:41:18,220
The awful truth.
648
00:41:19,540 --> 00:41:21,020
So I...
649
00:41:29,580 --> 00:41:31,660
I snuffed it out.
650
00:41:33,220 --> 00:41:36,660
So you shot Joseph Bell?
651
00:41:43,940 --> 00:41:47,180
Yes. I did.
652
00:41:52,060 --> 00:41:57,220
And I have tried so hard
for the last six years
653
00:41:57,260 --> 00:41:59,180
to make some amends.
654
00:42:02,380 --> 00:42:06,340
But, of course, it was never
even close to being enough.
655
00:42:07,900 --> 00:42:09,220
For that...
656
00:42:11,380 --> 00:42:12,860
..for what I did...
657
00:42:14,860 --> 00:42:16,980
..I am so, so...
658
00:42:20,340 --> 00:42:22,100
..so sorry.
659
00:42:25,980 --> 00:42:27,500
SLOW CLAPPING
660
00:42:32,820 --> 00:42:34,980
I mean, I wouldn't
give up the day job,
661
00:42:35,020 --> 00:42:37,460
but, er, there's
definitely something there.
662
00:42:38,900 --> 00:42:41,500
You weren't trying to
make amends, Mr Hume.
663
00:42:41,540 --> 00:42:44,540
You just saw the catastrophic
effect of your life's work
664
00:42:44,580 --> 00:42:46,980
and realised that that's
how you'd be remembered.
665
00:42:47,020 --> 00:42:48,980
You were just trying to
improve your Wiki page.
666
00:42:51,180 --> 00:42:53,460
Yeah. We see you.
667
00:42:54,740 --> 00:42:57,420
Well, consider this,
Lord Anthony Hume,
668
00:42:57,460 --> 00:43:00,340
you will only ever be
remembered as a rapist
669
00:43:00,380 --> 00:43:02,580
who murdered his
own great-grandson.
670
00:43:02,620 --> 00:43:04,540
That's your fucking
legacy, fella.
671
00:43:05,860 --> 00:43:07,660
I hope they throw away the key.
672
00:43:09,500 --> 00:43:11,540
DOOR OPENS, CLOSES
673
00:43:15,140 --> 00:43:17,260
We'll get someone to
take you to your cell.
674
00:43:39,140 --> 00:43:41,620
Are you Jay? Yes.
675
00:43:49,260 --> 00:43:50,860
Do you know who I am?
676
00:43:51,900 --> 00:43:52,900
I think so.
677
00:43:55,140 --> 00:43:57,220
I'm your nan, Jay.
678
00:43:59,340 --> 00:44:00,660
I'm Bele.
679
00:44:01,980 --> 00:44:03,140
Hello, Nan.
680
00:44:08,340 --> 00:44:13,100
I am so sorry, little one.
681
00:44:13,140 --> 00:44:16,260
I am so, so sorry.
682
00:44:16,300 --> 00:44:18,300
I told them, Nan.
683
00:44:18,340 --> 00:44:20,300
I told them he did it.
684
00:44:20,340 --> 00:44:22,300
I know, sweetheart.
685
00:44:23,620 --> 00:44:25,060
They rang.
686
00:44:26,460 --> 00:44:29,580
So now we know the
truth. Except you don't.
687
00:44:30,820 --> 00:44:33,260
Sorry? I lied.
688
00:44:37,660 --> 00:44:39,260
Mum killed Joe.
689
00:44:39,300 --> 00:44:42,100
Accidentally, trying
to get the gun off him.
690
00:44:42,140 --> 00:44:44,820
Then shot herself. SHE GASPS
691
00:44:44,860 --> 00:44:48,580
But it was all his fault,
what happened to our family.
692
00:44:48,620 --> 00:44:52,940
'From him raping your mum to
everything that come after,
693
00:44:52,980 --> 00:44:55,100
'it was all down to him.
694
00:44:55,140 --> 00:44:57,420
'So I just thought,
"Fuck him," y'know?'
695
00:44:57,460 --> 00:44:59,780
What's good for the
goose, man, innit?
696
00:44:59,820 --> 00:45:02,460
Just... fuck him.
697
00:45:16,140 --> 00:45:18,100
There you are.
698
00:45:18,140 --> 00:45:19,580
Sorry about earlier.
699
00:45:19,620 --> 00:45:23,060
That was, er... that was
a bit unprofessional.
700
00:45:23,100 --> 00:45:24,340
No apology needed.
701
00:45:24,380 --> 00:45:26,420
You took the words
right out of my mouth.
702
00:45:28,540 --> 00:45:29,820
CPS call yet?
703
00:45:29,860 --> 00:45:32,700
Said we can charge him with
the murder and the rape.
704
00:45:32,740 --> 00:45:34,420
Nice!
705
00:45:36,260 --> 00:45:38,180
Wasn't expecting both.
706
00:45:38,220 --> 00:45:42,500
That's a 57-year-old
crime, DCI James.
707
00:45:42,540 --> 00:45:44,980
A Bishop Street
record. SHE CHUCKLES
708
00:45:45,020 --> 00:45:46,860
Well, for now.
709
00:45:48,340 --> 00:45:51,140
And it's Jessie, please.
710
00:45:53,060 --> 00:45:55,260
Jessie James. SHE CHUCKLES
711
00:45:55,300 --> 00:45:59,940
So, you ever held up a
stagecoach? Held up a bar!
712
00:45:59,980 --> 00:46:02,700
Well, now you're talking.
I'll get my horse.
713
00:46:02,740 --> 00:46:04,820
HE LAUGHS
714
00:46:06,820 --> 00:46:08,820
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