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all right Greg and I are here yeah
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wow by the way
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we're doing another scout and we're in another space
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and I'm actually looking at this space with Greg
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and trying to figure out where we're going to shoot
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two interviews
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but before we do that
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just quickly
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I guess acknowledge a few of
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the things that we've been noticing right
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um first of all
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if we weren't shooting interviews
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for two people from a brewery
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there's some nice
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elements inside of the space that we could use
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I'm seeing some really beautiful light coming through
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that garage door
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which is this frosted glass yeah
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we could definitely do a nice setup for you know
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like you know
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see all those reality shows with people
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who work on bikes you know
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custom bikes
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custom cars
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we could do something really cool
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set a car outside of there
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we can see the silhouette of the car
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and then shoot an interview or something like that sure
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um I also see some pictures up on the walls
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they don't necessarily say Topa Topa
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so we could shoot something for
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an entirely different project
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so we're just talking about the fact that
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even though we have a specific goal
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for these two interviews
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we can use a space and uh
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and and not necessarily make it read it's a brewery
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by just looking in other directions
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or you'll find those elements in other spaces
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sure yeah um
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lots of mixed lighting
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what do you think we should do with that
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well our sun is moving pretty quickly here
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yeah um and uh
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with the mixed lighting that we have here
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it's not really punchy enough to read in camera yeah
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uh as we're looking in camera just earlier
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um you know
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the little spots are
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are reading sort of as just general washes yeah
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and we can really bring those out with our own lighting
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yeah um and so
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I think we might be better to control the light in here
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cause we don't know how long we're gonna be in here
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or when exactly we're doing the interviews yeah
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they're also very toppy
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and so they may not be throwing light in exactly
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the places we want
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depending on where we frame up for these things sure
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um for Jack
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who's one of the owners
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we wanna shoot an interview
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you and I have discussed this already
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kind of going down the bar
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yeah we think that works well
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I wanna make this blackboard
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you know with their different beers and element there
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and if we just take a walk down there quickly
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we can take a look
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at what we were looking at earlier on
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we've got a light
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which is doing the job of putting some light down here
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but it's not necessarily gonna be
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the color temperature that we want
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it doesn't allow us to sort of control
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how much light is coming out right
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so I think uh
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like you were saying
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we break something
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you think yeah
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we can just throw up a small little pepper up there
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and just allow it to
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we can even adjust the color temperature on there
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uh to focus it um
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or or maybe even uh
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something like that low caster
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which is a little bit more of a wash
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sure and then we can just dial in the color temperature
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just depending
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I guess we'll
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we'll figure that out
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that sounds good
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yeah and when we do the breakdown later on
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we'll tell you what we wound up with
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um let's get into a frame
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so I would be looking yeah
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you would be over here
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potentially
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I do want that blackboard to be over
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one of his shoulders
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so this could work
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and then we look there
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and let's kind of look at what
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potentially
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let's go super wide on the frame
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just so we can see what happens and uh
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back it off a little
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we could do something like this
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we've got this little feature with the Topa Topa
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I don't know if we'll wind up doing it
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and maybe if you can just smash right up against
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the wall over there Greg
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so we get even further back
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so that's just a rough frame
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but we might be able to do something like that
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and he's looking camera
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you know left
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um and then we can go in for our tight shot
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and let's just
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see what we have
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and we don't know what lens we're gonna be using
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but we can see that
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and let's get a little bit more of the blackboard over
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the shoulder um
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just as an option
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that might be nice
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we've got that growler up on that top shelf
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we may not even need to move that
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so we're just gonna play around with
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you know our options
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but to me I think this is where we're building this
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we're getting dialed in here yeah
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um I think I also wanna
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go over some things having to do with
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playing with color temperatures
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and if we're gonna black out the space
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let's go ahead and uh
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and and think about how we want that contrast
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so we wanna warm warm
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do we wanna cool
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warm do we wanna warm cool
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sure and we'll make sure we
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test that out and figure out where we settle cool
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I think I'm leaning towards one
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but we'll see where we wind up
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with everything all right
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and if we set our lights the right way
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and we use bi color lights that give us that option
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then we can just dial that in
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and we can figure out what we want
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so I think that's it
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we'll have to figure out whether we need any separation
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but to me it's gonna be a key
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coming from over here
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we're gonna have a B camera
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why don't you swing over for a B
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camera shot
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and let's just see what
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a tighter shot
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and maybe just walk in a little bit closer towards me
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and let's figure out where that's gonna be
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if I was looking
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camera left
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so we'll have to kind of play around with this
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we might move Jack
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forwards or backwards along the bar line a little bit
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to get that B
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camera angle to look pretty good um
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but we do have that as a consideration
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and we do wanna make sure that frame looks good as well
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I think we're gonna get
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enough light from this
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and a little bit of fill
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that we probably won't have to
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add a lot more right
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to get that second
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camera angle to work
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but we'll tweak that
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and then we'll break that down later
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is that cool
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yeah alright
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No.2 somebody behind the bar
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so I'm gonna walk behind the bar um
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this is kind of
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the bartender's domain
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they're going to move
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between the taps
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um we've got an order sign here
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which actually got put up
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when we walked into the space
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this is brand new
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this seems to be
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where people come up
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and they get
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if they're not sitting at the bar
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and they're going to the patio
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this is where they're gonna come up
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and get a beer
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right yeah so
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I kind of feel like
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it makes a lot of sense
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this feels very
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if we shoot in this direction
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and let's take a look
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at the frame
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yeah you know
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if we shoot in this direction
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it feels pretty sterile
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there's not a lot of warmth here
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and I do want this space to read pretty warm um
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I don't know if this necessarily
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is what we're looking for
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and we were kind of looking
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for a little
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bit of warmth right
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yeah and it feels
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pretty flat
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um and uh but
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with the controlling of the light
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on all the windows
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yeah we can
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warm it up cool it up
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however we need to
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if we're doing a dolly push
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for like a Wes
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this could be great
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if we frame this up
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the right way yeah
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and it would be a nice shot yeah
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and we could do that um
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but I think we want some depth
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and we want a little
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bit of interest there yeah
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so maybe we push over here
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where we were talking about doing that
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and we go down
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the opposite line
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and again we can
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take a look
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at this you know
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camera right
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or camera left
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let's look at
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the camera right
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just to see what will happen
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if I'm looking
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camera right
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um we kiss the lockers over there
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and we get the background
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out of the way
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but depending on what
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f stop we're gonna be shooting
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at maybe we
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let's see what
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our camera left looks like and yeah
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I kind of like that
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I mean we got something to deal with
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with the fire alarm thing
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uh huh and we might have to deal with that
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but if we bring
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the pictures
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into the frame
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a little bit more
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depending on where um
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our talents gonna be situated
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I think we're
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not gonna notice
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that fire alarm thing is much
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or we might be able to just do something
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to dress that a little
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bit definitely
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don't you think
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yeah what about our B
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if I'm looking
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camera left
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what would we looking at
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so we bring those pictures background yeah
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they're gonna fall soft
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especially put like a 70 and 200 on there
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right right
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we'll make that a pretty tight shot yeah
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I think it's pretty good
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I think we'll play with these frames a little bit
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but I think those are pretty interesting
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we can put a little bit of light on those too yeah
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just to kind of get
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what do you think of lighting for here this area
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so for Jack
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I'm I'm thinking we
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we either push through a frame
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or we bounce off of a frame
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you and I talked about
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the fact that the person is gonna be standing here um
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one of two talent who are both female yeah
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and it might be a good place to talk about
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getting into something that is approximately
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beauty lighting
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it's a little flatter
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but we've got some nice depth in the space
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and if we create some ratios
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because we're blocking out the space and right
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it's just not all one light level
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and it won't feel completely high key
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even though we are using that beauty lighting
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I think that'd be cool
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that would be so
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probably pushing through a frame
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and you know
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the if we're saying that our
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a camera is gonna be where Ben is right now
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then that light is
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a source that's coming basically from there
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and a little bit above could be
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coming through a skylight or something like that sure
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and this is a perfect example of
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why we wanna turn this light off as well right
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cause we wanna be able to control how that looks
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um and then
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the last thing that we need to deal with in this space
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and it's a pretty easy one
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is the little collective party
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that's gonna happen later on
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there's gonna be actual patrons here
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and then there are people
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who are part of this collective um
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we don't wanna shoot that outside
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we already discussed it yeah
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the double doors are gonna be open
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so I'm gonna come around from the bar
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and I'm kind of thinking about doors open
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there's gonna be warm light in there
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let's get a China ball with a bi color
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on a stand that's battery operated
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and maybe you up on sticks with a slider or on a
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monopod will have to decide yeah
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I think they could work
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that'll work
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one or two people
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a lot of people walking around
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so the last
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less stuff we have in the way yeah
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except to have you kill the music yeah
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and maybe looking out here
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cause we haven't seen much of this frame yet
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and somebody standing inside of this space
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so you know
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that would be doors open
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and then coming into this direction
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and then depending on how it feels
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we could also find another frame coming down the bar
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that slightly different than Jack's
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but still seeing outside
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what do you think
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that sounds good yeah
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I think that's pretty
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look at that frame yeah
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let's go ahead and take a look
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so those doors will be open
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and they'll be activity
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and they'll be people
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and maybe we'll go a little bit wider
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because we wanna make sure that we
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see that they have a beer in their hand yeah
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um we'll kind of figure out
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but maybe something like that those
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I think we probably go a little bit more in an angle
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though sure
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um so that we're seeing less of the signage and
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and things like that
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so maybe something like this sure um
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and they're probably gonna be
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we'll have to decide
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they're either gonna talk directly to camera
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actually they won't
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because we got all the other ones off camera
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so maybe we split the difference
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and we'll do one camera right
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and then one camera
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and then that'll be now coming off of the other
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shoulder right
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and it was for
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um for Jack
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uh huh and then
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we'll figure out another frame where you know
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we can get out those doors again
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or figure something else
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or even tuck in this corner
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you got a couple of people talking here yeah
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and we'll frame it up where we get a little bit of this
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but that's open
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so that's a little bit of a challenge
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but we'll work around it
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so I think that's
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basically it
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um we're gonna black out the space
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turn off all the lights
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we're gonna build up our own thing
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we've got to set up right now
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for our first interview right
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cause from what I understand
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we've got about half an hour
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45 minutes until Jack comes in
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so we're gonna go do that
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