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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:31,146 --> 00:01:32,980 I've been working for most of the year 2 00:01:33,064 --> 00:01:34,688 in this big house in London. 3 00:01:34,772 --> 00:01:36,897 I'm on the door. 4 00:01:36,980 --> 00:01:39,355 It belongs to Elliot Graham, who, 5 00:01:39,438 --> 00:01:42,022 in the list of the richest people in Britain, 6 00:01:42,105 --> 00:01:44,730 was number eight. 7 00:01:44,814 --> 00:01:46,647 Nobody lives here now. 8 00:01:46,730 --> 00:01:50,897 Mr. Graham himself lives across the street, in number 31. 9 00:01:52,271 --> 00:01:54,105 All that happens in this house 10 00:01:54,188 --> 00:01:57,396 is that it's cleaned every day, 11 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,772 and people arrange flowers here. 12 00:02:00,855 --> 00:02:02,939 There is always flesh flowers. 13 00:02:05,022 --> 00:02:10,105 And then, when the cleaners all leave, I'm alone here. 14 00:02:22,064 --> 00:02:25,105 From between 6:00 and 9:00, I am by myself... 15 00:02:26,522 --> 00:02:29,980 until the security guard turns up. 16 00:02:30,064 --> 00:02:34,313 I have this whole place to myself every day. 17 00:02:36,438 --> 00:02:39,146 I'm not allowed to let anybody in, 18 00:02:39,230 --> 00:02:40,980 not permitted to open the front door 19 00:02:41,064 --> 00:02:41,980 to any stranger. 20 00:02:43,396 --> 00:02:45,980 I never break this rule, ever... 21 00:02:48,064 --> 00:02:51,064 not without Mr. Graham's personal permission. 22 00:02:53,522 --> 00:02:56,605 But yesterday I did break it. 23 00:02:56,688 --> 00:02:59,271 The house shouldn't have been empty then. 24 00:02:59,355 --> 00:03:01,688 It was only ten to 3:00, 25 00:03:01,772 --> 00:03:04,022 but the cleaners had left early. 26 00:03:05,688 --> 00:03:08,022 I really don't know why I broke the rule. 27 00:03:09,855 --> 00:03:11,897 It was just something about her. 28 00:03:15,188 --> 00:03:19,022 - Yeah? - Is Mrs. Hopkins in? 29 00:03:19,105 --> 00:03:21,355 She don't work here anymore. 30 00:03:23,022 --> 00:03:26,022 Right. I see. 31 00:03:28,230 --> 00:03:29,355 I spoke to her on the phone 32 00:03:29,438 --> 00:03:30,647 a little while ago, and she was 33 00:03:30,730 --> 00:03:32,730 kind enough to say if I was passing 34 00:03:32,814 --> 00:03:33,897 and would like to look inside, 35 00:03:33,980 --> 00:03:35,855 I should just ring the bell. 36 00:03:35,939 --> 00:03:38,522 And today I was passing. 37 00:03:38,605 --> 00:03:39,605 No, she stopped working here 38 00:03:39,688 --> 00:03:40,814 two weeks ago. 39 00:03:40,897 --> 00:03:43,022 I'll go, then. 40 00:03:48,522 --> 00:03:51,647 - I can let you in, though. - Can you? 41 00:03:51,730 --> 00:03:54,105 Please. Come in. 42 00:03:55,605 --> 00:03:56,522 Thank you. 43 00:04:05,022 --> 00:04:05,897 Thank you. 44 00:04:13,064 --> 00:04:15,313 That door-- 45 00:04:15,396 --> 00:04:18,396 it's extraordinary, isn't it? 46 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,146 Yeah. 47 00:04:20,230 --> 00:04:22,605 It is strange. 48 00:04:22,688 --> 00:04:24,939 You get used to it, though. 49 00:04:33,939 --> 00:04:36,855 Was there something you wanted to see especially? 50 00:04:36,939 --> 00:04:39,146 - I mean, apart from the door. - No. 51 00:04:39,230 --> 00:04:42,438 No, nothing-- nothing I need to see. 52 00:04:42,522 --> 00:04:43,980 No, I was just passing, as I said. 53 00:04:44,064 --> 00:04:45,230 I thought it would be 54 00:04:45,313 --> 00:04:47,688 fascinating to see inside after all this time. 55 00:04:47,772 --> 00:04:49,271 Yeah, I used to come here 56 00:04:49,355 --> 00:04:50,522 when I was young. 57 00:04:50,605 --> 00:04:53,772 - Okay. - Almost as young as you. 58 00:04:53,855 --> 00:04:55,563 All right. 59 00:04:55,647 --> 00:04:57,730 Well, I've got all the keys here, 60 00:04:57,814 --> 00:04:59,271 so if you change your mind, I can show you 61 00:04:59,355 --> 00:05:00,814 whatever you want. 62 00:05:00,897 --> 00:05:02,772 - Yeah, there's lots to see. - No, no, of course, 63 00:05:02,855 --> 00:05:04,064 that won't be necessary. 64 00:05:04,146 --> 00:05:05,271 I don't want to cause any bother. 65 00:05:05,355 --> 00:05:06,563 It's no bother. 66 00:05:06,647 --> 00:05:07,730 And I have another appointment. 67 00:05:07,814 --> 00:05:09,146 I can't-- honestly, 68 00:05:09,230 --> 00:05:10,730 - I can't be here long. - It won't take long. 69 00:05:10,814 --> 00:05:12,271 No, I don't want to see 70 00:05:12,355 --> 00:05:13,939 the rest of the house. 71 00:05:19,396 --> 00:05:22,105 I didn't come prepared for a guided tour, 72 00:05:22,188 --> 00:05:23,688 you know, that's what I mean. 73 00:05:25,814 --> 00:05:28,313 It's beautifully kept, I must say. 74 00:05:30,146 --> 00:05:32,980 Ooh, fresh flowers and everything. 75 00:05:39,022 --> 00:05:40,647 My name's Mary. 76 00:05:40,730 --> 00:05:43,647 - Mary Gilbert. - I'm Joe. 77 00:05:43,730 --> 00:05:46,105 Hello, Joe. 78 00:05:46,188 --> 00:05:48,271 Joe Dix. 79 00:05:48,355 --> 00:05:51,146 Hello, Joe Dix. 80 00:05:51,230 --> 00:05:54,855 Shall I get you some tea? I can do it quickly. 81 00:05:54,939 --> 00:05:57,188 Very quickly, so you don't miss your appointment. 82 00:05:57,271 --> 00:05:59,980 Yes. Yes, that would be very kind. 83 00:06:00,064 --> 00:06:01,230 Thank you. 84 00:06:29,230 --> 00:06:32,647 It's beautiful tea, Joe. Thank you so much. 85 00:06:32,730 --> 00:06:35,271 And these are delicious. 86 00:06:35,355 --> 00:06:36,939 Good. 87 00:06:37,022 --> 00:06:38,980 I'll just drink this, then I'll be gone. 88 00:06:39,064 --> 00:06:41,230 I have to get to my appointment. 89 00:06:41,313 --> 00:06:43,647 Well, I'll be over here. 90 00:06:43,730 --> 00:06:44,897 Don't worry about me. 91 00:06:46,688 --> 00:06:48,980 Just got to fill in a few things in this ledger, 92 00:06:49,064 --> 00:06:51,939 all the hours I've done this week. 93 00:07:52,146 --> 00:07:53,271 - Miss! 94 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:55,855 Miss! 95 00:07:57,730 --> 00:08:00,688 Oh, I'm so sorry. How clumsy of me. 96 00:08:00,772 --> 00:08:02,855 Oh, it's okay. Wait there. 97 00:08:02,939 --> 00:08:03,980 Oh, I'm-- 98 00:08:08,146 --> 00:08:10,647 I'm sure I shouldn't have let this one in. 99 00:08:11,688 --> 00:08:13,605 - Hey. - So sorry. 100 00:08:13,688 --> 00:08:16,230 It's all right. 101 00:08:16,313 --> 00:08:17,772 This'll do it. 102 00:08:17,855 --> 00:08:20,605 - Oh, please, let me. - No, no, no. 103 00:08:24,230 --> 00:08:26,688 You kindly ask me in here, and I spill things 104 00:08:26,772 --> 00:08:28,605 all over the beautiful floor. 105 00:08:28,688 --> 00:08:31,814 Don't worry. It's only milk. 106 00:08:43,772 --> 00:08:44,688 What happened here? 107 00:08:46,271 --> 00:08:48,105 Mmm... Sir, what do you mean? 108 00:08:48,188 --> 00:08:50,438 Well, something happened to you here, didn't it? 109 00:08:50,522 --> 00:08:51,730 I mean before, when you were young. 110 00:08:53,064 --> 00:08:54,647 Is that what you think, Joe? 111 00:08:54,730 --> 00:08:55,897 Yeah. 112 00:08:57,522 --> 00:08:59,438 Just because I don't want to see the rest of the house 113 00:08:59,522 --> 00:09:02,230 doesn't mean something happened here. 114 00:09:05,730 --> 00:09:06,980 Why'd you used to come here? 115 00:09:07,064 --> 00:09:09,980 I came as a guest. 116 00:09:10,064 --> 00:09:11,605 What, to big parties? 117 00:09:11,688 --> 00:09:14,522 No, quite small parties. 118 00:09:14,605 --> 00:09:17,230 Oh. Small parties. 119 00:09:17,313 --> 00:09:20,438 Mmm, they were very select. 120 00:09:24,105 --> 00:09:26,772 It was amazing, this house then. 121 00:09:26,855 --> 00:09:29,563 I'd never seen anything like it. 122 00:09:29,647 --> 00:09:32,855 Mr. Graham's father invited people here 123 00:09:32,939 --> 00:09:36,022 he considered important. 124 00:09:36,105 --> 00:09:38,271 Once a week, he had a little soiree. 125 00:09:38,355 --> 00:09:41,647 So, when you came here, there were few guests, 126 00:09:41,730 --> 00:09:43,355 but nearly all of them were giants-- 127 00:09:44,855 --> 00:09:46,105 great novelists, 128 00:09:46,188 --> 00:09:49,772 famous people from the movies, 129 00:09:49,855 --> 00:09:53,563 actors and directors, scientists, 130 00:09:53,647 --> 00:09:56,522 politicians, of course, too. 131 00:09:56,605 --> 00:09:59,271 Those were the only guests. 132 00:09:59,355 --> 00:10:02,313 I mean, y-you'd crane your neck all night 133 00:10:02,396 --> 00:10:03,939 to try to get a glimpse. 134 00:10:04,022 --> 00:10:07,355 "Was that-- was that E.M. Forster 135 00:10:07,438 --> 00:10:09,480 that just walked past you? 136 00:10:11,105 --> 00:10:12,688 Is that figure over there 137 00:10:12,772 --> 00:10:14,939 in the chair Alfred Hitchcock? 138 00:10:15,022 --> 00:10:17,897 Is that the back of Evelyn Waugh's head? 139 00:10:19,855 --> 00:10:22,522 I think that's Ava Gardner over there, 140 00:10:22,605 --> 00:10:24,897 deep in the shadows." 141 00:10:27,647 --> 00:10:32,146 - Why where you there? - How on earth was I invited? 142 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:37,313 Me, a young woman who'd just lost 143 00:10:37,396 --> 00:10:40,188 her Manchester accent? 144 00:10:40,271 --> 00:10:42,647 You wouldn't have guessed that's where I came from, would you? 145 00:10:42,730 --> 00:10:44,064 I hadn't thought about it. 146 00:10:44,146 --> 00:10:48,313 I forced myself to lose my accent at university. 147 00:10:49,522 --> 00:10:52,105 I taught myself to speak like this. 148 00:10:57,522 --> 00:10:59,730 I was there because I'd been very lucky 149 00:10:59,814 --> 00:11:02,980 and become rather well known in my own right. 150 00:11:03,064 --> 00:11:06,271 See, at Oxford, I wrote a lot of journalism, 151 00:11:06,355 --> 00:11:08,605 and one of my pieces got picked up 152 00:11:08,688 --> 00:11:10,396 by a Sunday newspaper. 153 00:11:14,355 --> 00:11:18,022 Suddenly, I wa-- I was writing about movies and culture. 154 00:11:33,022 --> 00:11:36,688 You really can't imagine what the world was like then. 155 00:11:36,772 --> 00:11:41,188 It was a very class-bound time, of course, 156 00:11:41,271 --> 00:11:42,605 full of absurd rules 157 00:11:42,688 --> 00:11:44,563 and ridiculous prejudices, 158 00:11:44,647 --> 00:11:48,230 ev-even about how you held your fork at mealtimes. 159 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:58,563 Suddenly, I... I had my own column... 160 00:11:59,939 --> 00:12:03,480 and I wrote a book with a-- 161 00:12:03,563 --> 00:12:05,814 it's a silly title. 162 00:12:05,897 --> 00:12:07,480 "Slicing the Apple," 163 00:12:07,563 --> 00:12:09,688 which caused a stir. 164 00:12:09,772 --> 00:12:13,188 It was an attack against the male elite. 165 00:12:13,271 --> 00:12:15,230 It was nothing remarkable, of course, Joe. 166 00:12:15,313 --> 00:12:19,396 It was who was saying it that excited people. 167 00:12:21,355 --> 00:12:23,064 I mean, this was before The Beatles 168 00:12:23,146 --> 00:12:24,396 and all that, of course. 169 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:28,064 Yeah? God, before The Beatles. 170 00:12:28,146 --> 00:12:31,146 The confidence of youth. 171 00:12:39,814 --> 00:12:41,146 A month ago, regular readers 172 00:12:41,230 --> 00:12:42,939 of this column will remember 173 00:12:43,022 --> 00:12:47,105 I advocated a little more passion in our native cinema, 174 00:12:47,188 --> 00:12:49,939 that perhaps physical love was not best expressed 175 00:12:50,022 --> 00:12:52,396 by a small peck on our jaunty hero's cheek 176 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,022 by his long-suffering wife 177 00:12:54,105 --> 00:12:57,271 as he sets off for work in the morning whistling. 178 00:12:57,355 --> 00:12:59,855 I also ventured the thought that it was important 179 00:12:59,939 --> 00:13:02,022 that audiences were treated as adults, 180 00:13:02,105 --> 00:13:04,855 and, therefore, sexual love was clearly 181 00:13:04,939 --> 00:13:06,730 a proper subject for cinema, 182 00:13:06,814 --> 00:13:10,271 and that ultimately we might see some representation 183 00:13:10,355 --> 00:13:14,605 of the actual sexual act in mainstream pictures. 184 00:13:15,647 --> 00:13:17,563 I wrote an article saying 185 00:13:17,647 --> 00:13:21,396 there should be more sex in the movies. 186 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,022 I mean, all hell broke loose. 187 00:13:26,772 --> 00:13:30,271 There I was. I kept being invited. 188 00:13:30,355 --> 00:13:33,355 And I felt really alive... 189 00:13:34,438 --> 00:13:36,396 buzzing with ideas, 190 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,105 and the possibility of things. 191 00:13:45,146 --> 00:13:46,022 Miss? 192 00:13:50,146 --> 00:13:53,396 Was it in here? In one of these rooms? 193 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:54,814 The singing? 194 00:13:56,980 --> 00:13:58,688 - Partly in there. 195 00:13:59,897 --> 00:14:01,230 Come and have a look at it now. 196 00:14:01,313 --> 00:14:05,396 Oh, no. No, I don't need to do that. 197 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,064 Come on. 198 00:14:17,271 --> 00:14:19,313 Someone die in here or something? 199 00:14:22,022 --> 00:14:24,647 Looks smaller. 200 00:14:34,355 --> 00:14:37,480 The funniest thing is... 201 00:14:37,563 --> 00:14:39,563 the person I found most interesting 202 00:14:39,647 --> 00:14:41,396 wasn't one of the living legends. 203 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,271 I found myself becoming really fascinated 204 00:14:44,355 --> 00:14:46,688 by this man who wasn't at all famous. 205 00:14:48,188 --> 00:14:52,064 But nobody there was quite sure what he did. 206 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,105 I noticed people seemed a little... 207 00:14:56,188 --> 00:14:58,563 nervous when he approached, 208 00:14:58,647 --> 00:15:00,730 even Alfred Hitchcock. 209 00:15:02,897 --> 00:15:05,022 And then I began to understand why 210 00:15:05,105 --> 00:15:08,271 when I managed to eavesdrop on what he was saying. 211 00:15:08,355 --> 00:15:11,313 He would whisper to these great writers 212 00:15:11,396 --> 00:15:14,230 and movie directors and actors... 213 00:15:15,688 --> 00:15:19,605 "Your latest doesn't seem to have caused 214 00:15:19,688 --> 00:15:23,480 quite such a stir as your last. 215 00:15:23,563 --> 00:15:26,064 It's still on, isn't it? 216 00:15:28,939 --> 00:15:31,522 Well, I d-- I liked it. 217 00:15:31,605 --> 00:15:33,772 I don't know why I'm so alone." 218 00:15:33,855 --> 00:15:35,688 You must be so relieved. 219 00:15:35,772 --> 00:15:37,563 People seem to be going despite the notices. 220 00:15:37,647 --> 00:15:41,105 He seemed to weave a web... 221 00:15:42,105 --> 00:15:45,064 around these famous people. 222 00:15:45,146 --> 00:15:48,605 I think people are just a little confused. 223 00:15:48,688 --> 00:15:50,188 That's what I think, 224 00:15:50,271 --> 00:15:52,939 but it won't have done you any harm, will it? 225 00:15:54,438 --> 00:15:56,522 People said he was in publishing, 226 00:15:56,605 --> 00:15:58,814 that as a very young man, he'd worked 227 00:15:58,897 --> 00:16:01,396 for Lloyd George on his papers, 228 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,230 getting them in order. 229 00:16:03,313 --> 00:16:06,313 Now he was doing the same for Winston Churchill. 230 00:16:07,980 --> 00:16:10,271 He was very friendly with the great 231 00:16:10,355 --> 00:16:13,480 newspaper proprietors of the time, 232 00:16:13,563 --> 00:16:17,355 so he knew everyone who mattered. 233 00:16:17,438 --> 00:16:20,105 He was one of those mysterious people 234 00:16:20,188 --> 00:16:24,980 who seem to do both everything and nothing. 235 00:16:34,563 --> 00:16:36,980 Sometimes, I would see him 236 00:16:37,064 --> 00:16:41,313 thrash this ball about in the passage. 237 00:16:47,396 --> 00:16:50,355 People said he knew so many secrets... 238 00:16:52,438 --> 00:16:55,647 but he never, ever disclosed what he knew. 239 00:17:10,688 --> 00:17:13,105 The other extraordinary thing he did, 240 00:17:13,188 --> 00:17:17,022 he brought these extremely young girls with him. 241 00:17:17,105 --> 00:17:20,438 Gorgeous young things, but definitely underage. 242 00:17:20,522 --> 00:17:22,064 On my fourth visit, 243 00:17:22,146 --> 00:17:26,064 there was this particularly glorious creature. 244 00:17:27,563 --> 00:17:29,522 I don't know how he introduced her. 245 00:17:29,605 --> 00:17:33,855 His niece? Friend of the family? 246 00:17:43,563 --> 00:17:47,022 I'd never spoken to him. Not yet. 247 00:17:48,271 --> 00:17:50,146 Occasionally, I would see him 248 00:17:50,230 --> 00:17:54,563 glance towards me in a slightly knowing way. 249 00:17:58,522 --> 00:18:01,313 And on this evening, 250 00:18:01,396 --> 00:18:04,730 he was getting closer and closer. 251 00:18:07,438 --> 00:18:09,897 Phyllis. How are you? 252 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,271 I felt myself getting excited. 253 00:18:16,772 --> 00:18:20,438 More excited, absurdly, than if Alfred Hitchcock had been 254 00:18:20,522 --> 00:18:21,897 coming to talk to me. 255 00:18:21,980 --> 00:18:22,939 What did he say? 256 00:18:25,438 --> 00:18:28,271 - Oh, sorry. - Sorry. 257 00:18:28,355 --> 00:18:30,230 I'd just gone into the kitchen 258 00:18:30,313 --> 00:18:31,855 to get a glass of water. 259 00:18:31,939 --> 00:18:35,939 It seemed absurd to ask a servant to do that. 260 00:18:53,855 --> 00:18:56,438 I'm not disturbing you, am I? 261 00:18:56,522 --> 00:18:58,563 No. No, of course not. 262 00:18:58,647 --> 00:19:00,980 Both of us have escaped to the kitchen. 263 00:19:02,396 --> 00:19:05,105 No, I just came to get myself some water. 264 00:19:05,188 --> 00:19:08,522 Right. Well, as for me, I'm really going 265 00:19:08,605 --> 00:19:09,772 to shock you, I think. 266 00:19:09,855 --> 00:19:12,688 Oh, are you? I doubt that. 267 00:19:12,772 --> 00:19:15,230 I've come here to make myself a salad. 268 00:19:15,313 --> 00:19:17,772 - I have. 269 00:19:17,855 --> 00:19:20,313 One of my little foibles when it gets late. 270 00:19:20,396 --> 00:19:22,897 The staff leave me the ingredients, 271 00:19:22,980 --> 00:19:25,188 and I make myself a salad. 272 00:19:25,271 --> 00:19:27,897 - Does that shock you? - No, of course not. 273 00:19:27,980 --> 00:19:29,814 It is a little eccentric, I admit. 274 00:19:29,897 --> 00:19:31,980 I haven't introduced myself-- 275 00:19:32,064 --> 00:19:34,647 It is me who has to introduce himself. 276 00:19:34,730 --> 00:19:36,105 I'm Greville White. 277 00:19:36,188 --> 00:19:37,522 I know, of course, who you are, 278 00:19:37,605 --> 00:19:39,855 Mary Gilbert, because you are famous. 279 00:19:39,939 --> 00:19:41,605 - No, hardly. - Absolutely. 280 00:19:41,688 --> 00:19:43,230 You are. 281 00:19:43,313 --> 00:19:45,188 I hang on your every word. 282 00:19:45,271 --> 00:19:46,730 I can quote whole paragraphs. 283 00:19:46,814 --> 00:19:49,522 You're an acid observer, isn't that right? 284 00:19:49,605 --> 00:19:51,271 Slicing people down to size. 285 00:19:51,355 --> 00:19:53,064 I do a bit of that too, I suppose, 286 00:19:53,146 --> 00:19:54,438 though of course I don't write it down, 287 00:19:54,522 --> 00:19:56,522 but I know a few things. 288 00:19:56,605 --> 00:20:00,188 - I bet you do. - "The Voice of Youth." 289 00:20:00,271 --> 00:20:01,438 - Isn't that what it says? - No. 290 00:20:01,522 --> 00:20:02,855 Your byline in the newspaper, 291 00:20:02,939 --> 00:20:04,688 "The True Voice of Youth"? 292 00:20:04,772 --> 00:20:07,355 That was awful. I stopped them doing it. 293 00:20:07,438 --> 00:20:10,814 What a fantastic opportunity that is, though. 294 00:20:10,897 --> 00:20:13,064 To be the voice of youth. 295 00:20:13,146 --> 00:20:15,438 I would grab it if I were you. 296 00:20:15,522 --> 00:20:17,730 I'm trying to. 297 00:20:20,730 --> 00:20:23,396 You know, one thing I often do-- 298 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,939 well, often is a lie. 299 00:20:26,022 --> 00:20:28,313 One thing I occasionally do 300 00:20:28,396 --> 00:20:31,563 is see myself as others see me. 301 00:20:31,647 --> 00:20:34,605 Quite vividly, in fact. Do you ever do that? 302 00:20:34,688 --> 00:20:36,230 No. 303 00:20:38,897 --> 00:20:40,146 You sure? 304 00:20:40,230 --> 00:20:42,396 I'm not certain I know what you mean. 305 00:20:44,271 --> 00:20:46,396 I'll tell you exactly what I mean. 306 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,522 When I think about myself, 307 00:20:49,605 --> 00:20:52,022 most of the time, I see myself as... 308 00:20:52,146 --> 00:20:54,146 - dapper. 309 00:20:54,230 --> 00:20:58,271 Maybe I've got a little more energy than some other people. 310 00:20:58,355 --> 00:21:00,688 You have that too, Mary. 311 00:21:00,772 --> 00:21:02,355 And I've got a good memory, you know. 312 00:21:02,438 --> 00:21:04,022 A reasonably lively mind. 313 00:21:04,105 --> 00:21:07,313 That's how I see myself. 314 00:21:07,396 --> 00:21:09,730 But sometimes, I conjure up 315 00:21:09,814 --> 00:21:14,438 a picture other people have of me... what they see. 316 00:21:18,064 --> 00:21:19,688 They see me as quite a slimy, 317 00:21:19,772 --> 00:21:21,939 maybe treacherous fellow. 318 00:21:22,022 --> 00:21:26,647 Sweaty. Always with little beads of sweat on his brow-- 319 00:21:28,188 --> 00:21:30,480 as if I'm working too hard to be charming, 320 00:21:30,563 --> 00:21:32,647 covering what's really going on inside, 321 00:21:32,730 --> 00:21:34,814 and the effort shows. 322 00:21:36,855 --> 00:21:40,064 Whatever the temperature of the room... 323 00:21:40,146 --> 00:21:45,188 whatever the season... they see the sweat. 324 00:21:54,146 --> 00:21:56,355 Don't worry. A little party trick. 325 00:21:58,064 --> 00:22:00,647 Hopefully not too many people see me like that. 326 00:22:00,730 --> 00:22:02,563 I'm sure they don't. 327 00:22:02,647 --> 00:22:06,396 Come on, no need to be bland with me, Mary Gilbert. 328 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,355 That's not what you're famous for. 329 00:22:08,438 --> 00:22:10,939 I'm quite certain you, for a start, have viewed me like that. 330 00:22:11,022 --> 00:22:13,313 - No, I'm sure I haven't. - Don't worry. 331 00:22:13,396 --> 00:22:17,105 I'm not offended in the slightest. 332 00:22:17,188 --> 00:22:20,188 - I can tell you, Mr. White-- - Please... 333 00:22:20,271 --> 00:22:22,313 Greville. 334 00:22:24,022 --> 00:22:26,188 - Please, Bernard. 335 00:22:43,105 --> 00:22:48,022 I promise you, I really promise you, I'm not offended. 336 00:22:48,105 --> 00:22:52,230 And what's more, I'm gonna prove it to you now. 337 00:22:53,855 --> 00:22:57,230 - Prove it to me? - By doing something 338 00:22:57,313 --> 00:23:00,022 I never normally do, telling you a few 339 00:23:00,105 --> 00:23:02,897 little things that might amuse you 340 00:23:02,980 --> 00:23:04,563 since you are an observer yourself. 341 00:23:06,271 --> 00:23:08,980 - I never gossip, as a rule. - I'd heard. 342 00:23:09,064 --> 00:23:12,730 Oh? So you do know something about me. 343 00:23:14,146 --> 00:23:15,064 I'd heard that. 344 00:23:15,146 --> 00:23:19,064 Yes, well, I never ever gossip. 345 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:21,730 I mean, too many useful things 346 00:23:21,814 --> 00:23:24,188 would be compromised if I did. 347 00:23:24,271 --> 00:23:27,396 But for you, young Mary Gilbert... 348 00:23:28,438 --> 00:23:30,897 I will make an exception. 349 00:23:31,939 --> 00:23:34,022 My only exception. 350 00:23:34,105 --> 00:23:37,355 He told me a few little titbits. 351 00:23:37,438 --> 00:23:39,855 A famous politician who was having an affair 352 00:23:39,939 --> 00:23:41,271 with a minor royal 353 00:23:41,355 --> 00:23:44,772 was probably the only juicy revelation. 354 00:23:44,855 --> 00:23:47,814 Yeah, they were mostly mild, harmless stories, 355 00:23:47,897 --> 00:23:50,313 like a civil servant who had an obsessive need 356 00:23:50,396 --> 00:23:51,855 to pick people's pockets. 357 00:23:51,939 --> 00:23:53,480 And not just watches and wallets, 358 00:23:53,563 --> 00:23:57,188 but sometimes people's cough lozenges. 359 00:23:57,271 --> 00:24:00,230 There was a funny story 360 00:24:00,313 --> 00:24:02,897 about a famous Hollywood star 361 00:24:02,980 --> 00:24:05,313 who'd come over to England to make a film, 362 00:24:05,396 --> 00:24:08,605 and she was terrified of Pekingese dogs, 363 00:24:08,688 --> 00:24:12,271 regarded seeing them as a terrible omen. 364 00:24:12,355 --> 00:24:13,855 So if she caught sight of one 365 00:24:13,939 --> 00:24:16,188 on her way to the film studios in the morning, 366 00:24:16,271 --> 00:24:19,022 she would refuse to film that day. 367 00:24:19,105 --> 00:24:22,064 So the film company was reduced 368 00:24:22,146 --> 00:24:25,064 to hiring special dog walkers, 369 00:24:25,146 --> 00:24:27,855 all with great big dogs 370 00:24:27,939 --> 00:24:31,730 to amble through the streets near her hotel 371 00:24:31,814 --> 00:24:34,438 each time she set off in the morning. 372 00:24:34,522 --> 00:24:35,980 I met her once. 373 00:24:36,064 --> 00:24:37,939 Apart from the business with dogs, 374 00:24:38,022 --> 00:24:40,355 she was rather nice. 375 00:24:40,438 --> 00:24:41,939 She swore an awful lot. 376 00:24:42,022 --> 00:24:44,814 She had a charming Southern accent. 377 00:24:44,897 --> 00:24:47,688 It was fascinating, 378 00:24:47,772 --> 00:24:49,730 being deluged with gossip 379 00:24:49,814 --> 00:24:52,563 while he made his healthy-looking salad. 380 00:24:52,647 --> 00:24:55,480 He was funny and charming, 381 00:24:55,563 --> 00:24:59,022 but I had no doubt as I watched him, 382 00:24:59,105 --> 00:25:01,105 I was under no illusion 383 00:25:01,188 --> 00:25:03,939 that, though, I was quite well-known then, 384 00:25:04,022 --> 00:25:06,271 and nobody outside the elite circle 385 00:25:06,355 --> 00:25:08,980 knew who he was, 386 00:25:09,064 --> 00:25:12,814 he was someone who was far more powerful than me, 387 00:25:14,355 --> 00:25:16,605 someone I had to be extremely careful of. 388 00:25:16,688 --> 00:25:18,688 I've had mine done by him more than once. 389 00:25:18,772 --> 00:25:21,605 Oh, does he charge, as well? 390 00:25:21,688 --> 00:25:23,772 No, quite the opposite. 391 00:25:23,855 --> 00:25:26,647 You get a glass of sherry and some cheese biscuits. 392 00:25:26,730 --> 00:25:30,438 Why is he telling me all this? 393 00:25:30,522 --> 00:25:33,271 It's more than just trying to get me into bed. 394 00:25:33,355 --> 00:25:35,647 What's he really after? 395 00:25:37,271 --> 00:25:39,730 - Where are you going? 396 00:25:41,105 --> 00:25:43,772 I'm going to see where it happened. 397 00:25:43,855 --> 00:25:46,146 - You coming? - Do we have to? 398 00:25:52,313 --> 00:25:55,438 Well, what do you think? 399 00:25:55,522 --> 00:25:57,188 It looks terrific. 400 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,188 It's hardly changed. 401 00:26:05,271 --> 00:26:07,188 Well, that's terrible. 402 00:26:07,271 --> 00:26:10,355 It's like it's been preserved. 403 00:26:10,438 --> 00:26:12,772 It should've changed more. 404 00:26:12,855 --> 00:26:14,522 Yeah. 405 00:26:20,313 --> 00:26:22,688 Did you get to eat his salad? 406 00:26:24,396 --> 00:26:25,814 It's funny you should ask that. 407 00:26:25,897 --> 00:26:29,605 I was just thinking that very second, 408 00:26:29,688 --> 00:26:31,730 I never got to taste it. 409 00:26:31,814 --> 00:26:33,855 It is beautiful, isn't it? 410 00:26:33,939 --> 00:26:34,980 You're right. 411 00:26:36,438 --> 00:26:38,396 - Yes. - Thank you. 412 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,647 And it is just for us two. 413 00:26:41,814 --> 00:26:44,522 Just for us? 414 00:26:44,605 --> 00:26:46,188 We'll never finish it. 415 00:26:46,271 --> 00:26:48,230 Should we go and choose some wine to go with it? 416 00:26:50,230 --> 00:26:52,271 - Oh! Oh, you mean-- - From the cellar. 417 00:26:53,355 --> 00:26:55,064 The cellar? 418 00:26:55,146 --> 00:26:56,730 Yes, I often do that. 419 00:26:56,814 --> 00:26:59,647 Mr. Graham has a fantastic wine cellar, 420 00:26:59,730 --> 00:27:01,939 though I'm not sure he knows his way around it. 421 00:27:02,022 --> 00:27:04,188 He frequently asks me for recommendations. 422 00:27:04,271 --> 00:27:07,230 He lets me take a bottle home when I wish. 423 00:27:07,313 --> 00:27:09,313 One of my little perks. 424 00:27:11,396 --> 00:27:12,939 Do you want to come and help me choose? 425 00:27:16,939 --> 00:27:18,563 Ever written about wine? 426 00:27:18,647 --> 00:27:19,772 No, I know 427 00:27:19,855 --> 00:27:21,563 absolutely nothing about wine. 428 00:27:21,647 --> 00:27:22,897 So there are some things you don't have 429 00:27:22,980 --> 00:27:25,396 - an opinion on, then. - Of course, 430 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:26,855 there are all sorts of things I don't know 431 00:27:26,939 --> 00:27:29,105 anything about, naturally. 432 00:27:29,188 --> 00:27:30,480 Really? I can't believe 433 00:27:30,563 --> 00:27:34,313 - that's true, Mary. - Well, it is. 434 00:27:34,396 --> 00:27:37,814 I see myself very much as a beginner still. 435 00:27:37,897 --> 00:27:39,897 I've been very lucky in my career. 436 00:27:39,980 --> 00:27:41,897 It's good to have strong opinions. 437 00:27:41,980 --> 00:27:43,188 I approve of that. 438 00:27:45,855 --> 00:27:47,438 I realized he was most probably 439 00:27:47,522 --> 00:27:50,146 trying to seduce me, but I don't know why 440 00:27:50,230 --> 00:27:53,355 I wasn't the least afraid of him. 441 00:27:53,438 --> 00:27:56,897 I knew he wasn't going to try to rape me. 442 00:27:56,980 --> 00:27:59,605 And I knew, instinctively, 443 00:27:59,688 --> 00:28:03,355 there was something else he wanted to tell me. 444 00:28:03,438 --> 00:28:06,313 And of course, a bit of me was thinking, 445 00:28:06,396 --> 00:28:08,522 "Maybe there's a story here." 446 00:28:18,814 --> 00:28:21,188 Up until 20 years ago, 447 00:28:21,271 --> 00:28:24,022 the food used to come along here from the kitchens. 448 00:28:24,105 --> 00:28:26,022 Can you believe that? 449 00:28:30,688 --> 00:28:35,814 I know it seems spooky down here, but it isn't. 450 00:28:35,897 --> 00:28:37,939 It is, in fact, rather beautiful. 451 00:28:38,022 --> 00:28:39,438 Beautiful? 452 00:28:41,438 --> 00:28:44,396 Maybe... in a way. 453 00:28:49,730 --> 00:28:53,188 - Isn't this magnificent? - Yes. 454 00:28:53,271 --> 00:28:54,355 It is. 455 00:28:54,438 --> 00:28:55,563 Some of these bottles 456 00:28:55,647 --> 00:28:58,105 are over a hundred years old. 457 00:28:58,188 --> 00:29:00,480 Mr. Graham bought up other people's wine collections 458 00:29:00,563 --> 00:29:02,313 and stuck them down here. 459 00:29:02,396 --> 00:29:04,605 There's some real treasures 460 00:29:04,688 --> 00:29:06,480 that are worth a fortune. 461 00:29:06,563 --> 00:29:08,772 I persuaded him recently to do some better labeling. 462 00:29:08,855 --> 00:29:10,563 I wrote some of these myself. 463 00:29:12,022 --> 00:29:14,939 - Great labels. - Thanks. 464 00:29:15,022 --> 00:29:17,522 Yes, they are rather nice. 465 00:29:17,605 --> 00:29:19,897 - You know about films? - Yes. 466 00:29:19,980 --> 00:29:23,188 Well, this is a bit like something in that fat chap upstairs' movie. 467 00:29:23,271 --> 00:29:25,855 You know "Notorious," where they go down to the wine cellar? 468 00:29:25,939 --> 00:29:28,688 Cary Grant, you don't know what he's going to discover, 469 00:29:28,772 --> 00:29:30,188 and then Ingrid Bergman joins him. 470 00:29:30,271 --> 00:29:31,605 Well, I'm not sure we're going to find 471 00:29:31,688 --> 00:29:33,396 some uranium down here 472 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:34,605 in one of these bottles. 473 00:29:36,688 --> 00:29:38,146 That's what Cary Grant found. 474 00:29:38,230 --> 00:29:41,522 I know. Maybe not. 475 00:29:41,605 --> 00:29:42,855 And here we have this. 476 00:29:42,939 --> 00:29:46,855 We have a Château Latour from 1900, 477 00:29:46,939 --> 00:29:48,939 one of the greatest wines of the century. 478 00:29:49,022 --> 00:29:51,313 And little did they know as they were drinking this, 479 00:29:51,396 --> 00:29:54,647 what a great disaster was going to overcome them all-- 480 00:29:54,730 --> 00:29:58,022 the fighting, the trenches in just a few years. 481 00:29:59,563 --> 00:30:01,438 I like doing this, 482 00:30:01,522 --> 00:30:02,897 imagining what was happening 483 00:30:02,980 --> 00:30:04,939 as certain wines were bottled. 484 00:30:06,188 --> 00:30:07,730 Château Haut-Brion, 485 00:30:07,814 --> 00:30:09,939 often described as a very feminine wine. 486 00:30:10,022 --> 00:30:12,064 1929 was a truly great year. 487 00:30:12,146 --> 00:30:13,855 Just the stock markets of the world 488 00:30:13,939 --> 00:30:15,563 were collapsing, and people were 489 00:30:15,647 --> 00:30:17,855 throwing themselves out of buildings. 490 00:30:18,980 --> 00:30:20,396 - Exactly. 491 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:25,647 And Clerc Milon, 1943, the best vintage during the war. 492 00:30:25,730 --> 00:30:27,064 I mean, the connoisseur's life 493 00:30:27,146 --> 00:30:30,522 very definitely didn't stop, you see. 494 00:30:30,605 --> 00:30:33,897 You do know a lot about wine. 495 00:30:33,980 --> 00:30:37,064 Well, I spend an awful lot of my time in country houses, 496 00:30:37,146 --> 00:30:39,688 drinking the stuff as I help them out. 497 00:30:43,772 --> 00:30:45,480 Well, I wouldn't complain if I were you. 498 00:30:45,563 --> 00:30:47,064 It's a nice way to spend your time. 499 00:30:48,188 --> 00:30:50,730 Was I complaining? 500 00:30:50,814 --> 00:30:51,855 I didn't mean to. 501 00:31:02,355 --> 00:31:04,313 There's more. 502 00:31:15,730 --> 00:31:16,730 Oh. 503 00:31:24,230 --> 00:31:27,480 Should we, uh... should we choose a bottle, then? 504 00:31:27,563 --> 00:31:29,980 Maybe the one that's worth a fortune. 505 00:31:30,064 --> 00:31:31,605 That would surprise them, 506 00:31:31,688 --> 00:31:33,647 if we went upstairs waving that around, 507 00:31:33,730 --> 00:31:35,230 having opened it. 508 00:31:36,980 --> 00:31:37,939 I lied to you. 509 00:31:39,605 --> 00:31:40,522 About what? 510 00:31:42,271 --> 00:31:44,022 The reason for us coming down here? 511 00:31:44,105 --> 00:31:47,438 No. What do you take me for, Mary? 512 00:31:49,064 --> 00:31:51,563 I don't normally lure young women down into cellars 513 00:31:51,647 --> 00:31:53,772 to take advantage of them. 514 00:31:53,855 --> 00:31:55,814 No, I lied about the stories I told you. 515 00:31:55,897 --> 00:31:57,772 You mean they weren't true? 516 00:31:57,855 --> 00:31:59,188 No, they were true, all right, 517 00:31:59,271 --> 00:32:04,105 but they were silly, unimportant froth. 518 00:32:06,772 --> 00:32:09,271 They weren't the real story, Mary. 519 00:32:10,605 --> 00:32:12,438 I should have been more truthful. 520 00:32:14,105 --> 00:32:18,105 Do you want to hear the real story, Mary? 521 00:32:26,939 --> 00:32:28,230 As he said that, 522 00:32:28,313 --> 00:32:30,814 I could feel myself go cold. 523 00:32:47,230 --> 00:32:49,688 Do you want to hear that? 524 00:32:49,772 --> 00:32:52,271 The real story, Mary? 525 00:32:55,647 --> 00:32:56,605 Yes. 526 00:32:58,855 --> 00:33:00,105 Right. 527 00:33:03,563 --> 00:33:07,188 And then he tells me a series 528 00:33:07,271 --> 00:33:12,146 of what I can only call horrific things. 529 00:33:13,688 --> 00:33:18,313 He was very calm, very specific. 530 00:33:18,396 --> 00:33:23,480 The year, the exact location, 531 00:33:23,563 --> 00:33:26,814 and, of course, all the real names. 532 00:33:28,146 --> 00:33:30,688 At first, I thought I could handle it. 533 00:33:32,271 --> 00:33:38,230 It started with something fairly nasty but not unbearable. 534 00:33:39,897 --> 00:33:41,647 About an archbishop 535 00:33:41,730 --> 00:33:46,064 who thrashed little boys till they bled and were raw. 536 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,855 Continued even when he was a famous prelate. 537 00:33:50,939 --> 00:33:54,064 He thrashed and thrashed them. 538 00:33:59,438 --> 00:34:04,647 And then he moved on to a famous public figure 539 00:34:04,730 --> 00:34:06,313 who'd apparently kept a young woman 540 00:34:06,396 --> 00:34:09,146 like a slave in his house, 541 00:34:09,230 --> 00:34:11,772 degraded her in the most horrible fashion 542 00:34:11,855 --> 00:34:13,647 for year after year. 543 00:34:13,730 --> 00:34:16,522 When it was over, 544 00:34:16,605 --> 00:34:18,313 her own sister didn't recognize her. 545 00:34:18,396 --> 00:34:23,396 There was a story that... particularly shocked me, 546 00:34:24,730 --> 00:34:27,480 one he himself had directly witnessed 547 00:34:27,563 --> 00:34:31,480 about a very senior politician, 548 00:34:31,563 --> 00:34:35,438 somebody who'd helped lead us through the war, 549 00:34:35,522 --> 00:34:38,980 watching a documentary about the Holocaust 550 00:34:39,064 --> 00:34:41,563 and coming out afterwards and saying to Greville... 551 00:34:41,647 --> 00:34:46,647 "The fucking Jews, they were really asking for it." 552 00:34:48,313 --> 00:34:50,105 That's what he said to me, Mary. 553 00:34:51,313 --> 00:34:53,647 That's... that's terrible. 554 00:34:53,730 --> 00:34:55,188 Yes. 555 00:34:55,271 --> 00:34:56,814 He seemed very surprised 556 00:34:56,897 --> 00:34:59,396 when I went rather quiet after he'd said it. 557 00:35:01,563 --> 00:35:04,230 There were stories of cruelty to children. 558 00:35:05,772 --> 00:35:08,688 There were one or two things so disgusting, 559 00:35:08,772 --> 00:35:12,355 I've never been able to get them out of my head. 560 00:35:12,438 --> 00:35:14,355 I find myself thinking about them 561 00:35:14,438 --> 00:35:16,939 nearly every week, even now. 562 00:35:18,772 --> 00:35:21,605 Everything he told me was sordid, 563 00:35:22,939 --> 00:35:25,022 and sometimes 564 00:35:25,105 --> 00:35:27,939 unbearably sad, too. 565 00:35:30,146 --> 00:35:32,772 And I believed every word. 566 00:35:34,980 --> 00:35:38,897 I don't think he was making it up. 567 00:35:38,980 --> 00:35:42,438 In fact, I know he wasn't making it up. 568 00:35:43,647 --> 00:35:46,730 I mean, I know there are stories 569 00:35:46,814 --> 00:35:48,939 you can tell about the powerful in any age-- 570 00:35:49,022 --> 00:35:51,605 I'm sure you could collect awful things now-- 571 00:35:51,688 --> 00:35:56,688 but hearing them pour out all together... 572 00:35:57,772 --> 00:35:59,688 coming right at me... 573 00:36:02,647 --> 00:36:04,772 took me totally by surprise. 574 00:36:06,605 --> 00:36:09,480 I liked to think of myself... 575 00:36:11,022 --> 00:36:15,355 as being very sophisticated, unshockable, 576 00:36:16,688 --> 00:36:18,980 but he really shocked me. 577 00:36:29,688 --> 00:36:31,563 Nice life I lead. 578 00:36:33,730 --> 00:36:37,146 There is a line of cruelty, Mary, 579 00:36:37,230 --> 00:36:40,396 that I have watched personally, 580 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:41,772 running from before the war 581 00:36:41,855 --> 00:36:44,939 right through to where we are now. 582 00:36:45,022 --> 00:36:47,688 I think I'm a great witness. 583 00:36:47,772 --> 00:36:49,814 Many things I've seen. 584 00:36:52,396 --> 00:36:54,897 It's just I can never tell people. 585 00:36:56,396 --> 00:36:58,814 Well, why are you telling me? 586 00:36:58,897 --> 00:36:59,939 I don't know. 587 00:37:01,688 --> 00:37:04,313 I really don't know the answer to that, Mary. 588 00:37:04,396 --> 00:37:06,605 Maybe you seemed a good person to tell. 589 00:37:08,647 --> 00:37:10,064 The voice of youth. 590 00:37:11,897 --> 00:37:13,022 And also perhaps I wanted to tell you 591 00:37:13,105 --> 00:37:15,647 because... I wanted 592 00:37:15,730 --> 00:37:18,688 - to show you something. - Show me what? 593 00:37:18,772 --> 00:37:22,772 Show you that even though I know all these things, 594 00:37:22,855 --> 00:37:24,355 in one or two instances have actually been 595 00:37:24,438 --> 00:37:27,313 in the house when they happened, 596 00:37:27,396 --> 00:37:29,688 I still believe the alternative is worse. 597 00:37:30,855 --> 00:37:32,772 What's the alternative? 598 00:37:32,855 --> 00:37:36,522 Reducing everybody and everything to the same level. 599 00:37:36,605 --> 00:37:39,064 Letting the great unwashed run everything. 600 00:37:41,064 --> 00:37:42,271 And suddenly, 601 00:37:42,355 --> 00:37:46,105 he's all bright and argumentative. 602 00:37:47,146 --> 00:37:48,939 Do you agree with me, Mary? 603 00:37:49,022 --> 00:37:51,396 As if after telling me 604 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,438 all these disgusting things, 605 00:37:55,522 --> 00:37:57,188 none of it mattered. 606 00:37:57,271 --> 00:37:59,605 As if all he wanted was a little 607 00:37:59,688 --> 00:38:02,188 dinner party political ding-dong, 608 00:38:02,271 --> 00:38:05,271 - to take me on. - What's your view, Mary? 609 00:38:11,939 --> 00:38:14,313 - You're going to run away 610 00:38:14,396 --> 00:38:16,814 now, aren't you? 611 00:38:16,897 --> 00:38:18,647 Well, I think I'd better leave, don't you? 612 00:38:18,730 --> 00:38:20,688 No, I don't think you should leave. 613 00:38:20,772 --> 00:38:23,772 Well, I'm going to. 614 00:38:27,939 --> 00:38:30,647 We haven't chosen our bottle yet. 615 00:38:33,563 --> 00:38:35,939 No, we haven't. 616 00:38:41,688 --> 00:38:43,688 You know, of course, 617 00:38:43,772 --> 00:38:46,814 - everything you've told me... - Yes? 618 00:38:46,897 --> 00:38:49,271 ...will remain completely confidential. 619 00:38:49,355 --> 00:38:50,730 Naturally. 620 00:38:50,814 --> 00:38:52,855 I won't breathe a word. 621 00:38:52,939 --> 00:38:55,022 Do I really believe that? 622 00:38:55,105 --> 00:38:58,688 Yes, you do believe that. 623 00:39:00,772 --> 00:39:02,730 If that is what you promise, Mary. 624 00:39:02,814 --> 00:39:05,522 That's what I promise. 625 00:39:31,605 --> 00:39:35,105 It still looks creepy, 626 00:39:35,188 --> 00:39:38,897 even with all this light on. 627 00:39:38,980 --> 00:39:42,563 I suppose most basements are creepy. 628 00:39:45,188 --> 00:39:46,814 Hey, I've never seen a rat down here, 629 00:39:46,897 --> 00:39:48,730 - so it must be clean. - Mmm. 630 00:39:51,022 --> 00:39:52,814 I suppose so little goes on in the house now, 631 00:39:52,897 --> 00:39:54,563 there's not much for them to eat. 632 00:40:02,563 --> 00:40:05,855 All the wine, 633 00:40:06,897 --> 00:40:09,396 it's still here. 634 00:40:13,355 --> 00:40:16,688 Nobody drinks it? 635 00:40:16,772 --> 00:40:18,022 No. 636 00:40:20,271 --> 00:40:21,814 You're thinking I shouldn't ever 637 00:40:21,897 --> 00:40:23,855 have come down here with him, aren't you, Joe? 638 00:40:23,939 --> 00:40:25,146 I weren't thinking that. 639 00:40:26,230 --> 00:40:27,814 Would you have said no? 640 00:40:29,105 --> 00:40:30,064 I don't think so. 641 00:41:36,146 --> 00:41:38,563 I told myself I would let everything go. 642 00:41:38,647 --> 00:41:40,188 You know, let it wash away, 643 00:41:40,271 --> 00:41:42,814 and by the time I got home, it would be gone. 644 00:41:42,897 --> 00:41:45,188 Of course, within minutes of me sitting there, 645 00:41:45,271 --> 00:41:46,980 I realized that it wasn't going to happen 646 00:41:47,064 --> 00:41:51,522 because as soon as I was alone with my thoughts, 647 00:41:51,605 --> 00:41:54,355 everything he told me became even more vivid. 648 00:41:56,146 --> 00:41:59,939 For some reason, I started seeing this newsreel footage. 649 00:42:00,022 --> 00:42:02,855 I was thinking, "All these things he's told me 650 00:42:02,939 --> 00:42:09,022 are running underneath-- underneath these events." 651 00:42:40,980 --> 00:42:42,105 Do you have a cigarette? 652 00:42:49,730 --> 00:42:51,772 And then... 653 00:42:51,855 --> 00:42:53,730 something else dawned on me. 654 00:42:53,814 --> 00:42:56,730 Because he'd been so specific-- 655 00:42:56,814 --> 00:42:59,105 every date, every name, 656 00:42:59,188 --> 00:43:01,897 people that were still alive, 657 00:43:01,980 --> 00:43:05,355 and when he came back into the room, I realized... 658 00:43:07,355 --> 00:43:09,980 he's told me all these things 659 00:43:10,064 --> 00:43:12,146 which he might not have told anybody else... 660 00:43:14,064 --> 00:43:16,939 so he's not gonna let go of me that easily. 661 00:43:33,522 --> 00:43:36,022 Just running away from him in the cellar 662 00:43:36,105 --> 00:43:38,605 isn't going to finish the business. 663 00:43:52,313 --> 00:43:54,688 Let's get out of here, Joe. 664 00:44:08,772 --> 00:44:10,064 I need you to lead me, Joe. 665 00:44:10,146 --> 00:44:12,230 I don't know my way out of this bloody place. 666 00:44:12,313 --> 00:44:14,480 Well, it's this way. 667 00:44:14,563 --> 00:44:17,313 Thank you. 668 00:44:23,688 --> 00:44:27,146 That's better, Joe. Thank you. 669 00:44:43,647 --> 00:44:46,855 Just keeping out the winter cold. 670 00:44:48,939 --> 00:44:52,480 - Did you get away from him? 671 00:44:52,563 --> 00:44:53,647 Away from this man? 672 00:44:53,730 --> 00:44:57,939 Well, that was my intention, Joe. 673 00:44:58,022 --> 00:44:59,146 And for that to be possible, 674 00:44:59,230 --> 00:45:03,688 I knew I needed to see him again. 675 00:45:03,772 --> 00:45:08,772 I would act so vague when I saw him. 676 00:45:08,855 --> 00:45:13,522 So forgetful, he'll realize he has no hold over me. 677 00:45:14,772 --> 00:45:16,396 I mean, I knew he could still do me 678 00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:20,064 professional harm if he chose. 679 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,814 It was the first time 680 00:45:25,897 --> 00:45:28,396 I'd been invited to spend the night here. 681 00:45:30,855 --> 00:45:33,146 We'd been to Wimbledon to see the tennis. 682 00:45:33,230 --> 00:45:35,605 In the morning, we were going down the river. 683 00:45:35,688 --> 00:45:38,396 As always, there was a small group of guests. 684 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,855 They were all very famous, 685 00:45:40,939 --> 00:45:44,563 but no Greville White. 686 00:45:47,980 --> 00:45:49,939 Mr. Graham's theme for the evening 687 00:45:50,022 --> 00:45:52,730 seemed to be Edwardian Music Hall. 688 00:45:52,814 --> 00:45:55,647 The house was ringing 689 00:45:55,730 --> 00:45:57,897 with these old songs. 690 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:14,438 I was feeling 691 00:46:14,522 --> 00:46:17,355 very excited, I remember. 692 00:46:17,438 --> 00:46:20,772 I'd just been given an important assignment-- 693 00:46:20,855 --> 00:46:24,146 a series of articles in America. 694 00:46:24,230 --> 00:46:26,897 It would be my first visit there. 695 00:46:51,064 --> 00:46:54,022 Mr. Graham, it's been a fantastic day. Thank you. 696 00:46:54,105 --> 00:46:55,605 I'm heading to America soon. 697 00:46:55,688 --> 00:46:57,230 I'm going to do a few articles out there. 698 00:46:57,313 --> 00:46:59,897 - How wonderful. - Yes, a fantastic opportunity. 699 00:46:59,980 --> 00:47:02,188 I'm only going for a short time, but I'm very excited. 700 00:47:02,271 --> 00:47:03,730 - Good night. - Good night. 701 00:48:26,064 --> 00:48:29,605 - Who is it? 702 00:48:29,688 --> 00:48:31,980 It's me, Greville. I don't need to come in. 703 00:48:32,064 --> 00:48:33,605 I've just got something here for you. 704 00:48:44,146 --> 00:48:45,939 - Hmm. - I thought you might like 705 00:48:46,022 --> 00:48:47,480 some strawberries. 706 00:48:47,563 --> 00:48:48,772 I missed the tennis, but I brought 707 00:48:48,855 --> 00:48:51,480 the strawberries with clotted cream. 708 00:48:51,563 --> 00:48:53,688 - Do you want some? - Thank you, that's very kind. 709 00:48:53,772 --> 00:48:55,563 I'll have a spoonful. 710 00:49:00,064 --> 00:49:02,146 It's all right, I don't need to come in. 711 00:49:04,939 --> 00:49:06,772 - You look really well. - Thank you. 712 00:49:08,146 --> 00:49:10,772 - I am. - I just wanted to say, Mary, 713 00:49:10,855 --> 00:49:12,271 about the last time we saw each other-- 714 00:49:12,355 --> 00:49:13,980 Oh, yes, when you-- 715 00:49:14,064 --> 00:49:15,605 when you made that big salad. 716 00:49:15,688 --> 00:49:19,105 Yes, there was the salad... 717 00:49:19,188 --> 00:49:21,105 and then there was what I told you. 718 00:49:21,188 --> 00:49:22,897 Oh, yes, was it something-- 719 00:49:22,980 --> 00:49:24,730 was it about a film star and dogs? 720 00:49:24,814 --> 00:49:26,814 Yes, that was part of it, 721 00:49:26,897 --> 00:49:30,105 amongst other things. 722 00:49:30,188 --> 00:49:31,897 I just want to explain why I told you those things. 723 00:49:31,980 --> 00:49:33,230 No! No, you don't have to. 724 00:49:33,313 --> 00:49:34,897 Please. 725 00:49:34,980 --> 00:49:38,271 I just wanted to say I really didn't mean to upset you. 726 00:49:38,355 --> 00:49:41,563 Oh, was I upset? No! 727 00:49:41,647 --> 00:49:42,563 No, I don't think so. 728 00:49:42,647 --> 00:49:45,730 Right. That's good. 729 00:49:45,814 --> 00:49:48,438 I'm glad you weren't. 730 00:50:07,438 --> 00:50:09,772 Sorry, eating these like this 731 00:50:09,855 --> 00:50:12,688 just reminded me of something. 732 00:50:12,772 --> 00:50:13,980 Since I didn't upset you last time, 733 00:50:14,064 --> 00:50:15,313 I'll risk one more-- one more-- 734 00:50:15,396 --> 00:50:16,814 Please, it's late and I'm-- 735 00:50:16,897 --> 00:50:18,897 No, no, no, this is tiny. 736 00:50:18,980 --> 00:50:21,563 It's funny, not like the other ones. 737 00:50:21,647 --> 00:50:24,563 I was in a private room in a gentlemen's club, 738 00:50:24,647 --> 00:50:26,563 the Beefsteak Club. 739 00:50:26,647 --> 00:50:28,064 A group of us were trying owl 740 00:50:28,146 --> 00:50:30,105 for reasons I don't remember. 741 00:50:30,188 --> 00:50:34,355 Also there was some ghastly, oversweet Greek puddings 742 00:50:34,438 --> 00:50:36,396 with names like Galaktoboureko. 743 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:40,105 I mean, they were so sticky, it was like eating glue. 744 00:50:40,188 --> 00:50:41,939 There must be a new cook, mustn't there? 745 00:50:42,022 --> 00:50:44,313 We've had the same six puddings for the last 20 years. 746 00:50:46,064 --> 00:50:48,146 And as we were trying to unstick ourselves, 747 00:50:48,230 --> 00:50:52,355 these men were saying, very senior figures in the government, 748 00:50:52,438 --> 00:50:54,064 "You know how I hate niggers, 749 00:50:54,146 --> 00:50:55,730 but we're going to have to give them something, 750 00:50:55,814 --> 00:50:56,980 especially in Africa." 751 00:50:57,064 --> 00:50:58,772 Somebody else was saying, 752 00:50:58,855 --> 00:51:00,814 "The niggers will never be able to run anything. 753 00:51:00,897 --> 00:51:02,563 It's madness." 754 00:51:02,647 --> 00:51:04,814 I mean, it was very standard stuff. 755 00:51:04,897 --> 00:51:08,146 But as they talked, they were all fiddling with their teeth. 756 00:51:08,230 --> 00:51:10,605 Their mouths were literally being gummed up. 757 00:51:12,022 --> 00:51:13,647 Why are you telling me this? 758 00:51:13,730 --> 00:51:15,855 Well, I thought you'd like that image. 759 00:51:15,939 --> 00:51:18,355 These men sitting around, "I hate the niggers," 760 00:51:18,438 --> 00:51:20,563 with all this syrup in their mouths. 761 00:51:20,647 --> 00:51:23,522 And did you agree with them? 762 00:51:23,605 --> 00:51:25,563 I didn't say that, did I? 763 00:51:28,146 --> 00:51:29,522 Thank you for the strawberries. 764 00:51:29,605 --> 00:51:32,064 I really must go to bed now. 765 00:51:32,146 --> 00:51:34,064 Of course. 766 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,313 I just have one other thing I want to give you. 767 00:51:38,396 --> 00:51:40,355 No. No, it's late 768 00:51:40,438 --> 00:51:41,438 - and I really-- - Please. 769 00:51:42,730 --> 00:51:44,730 Just let me for a moment. 770 00:51:44,814 --> 00:51:47,188 I know you think I'm a snob, Mary. 771 00:51:47,271 --> 00:51:48,980 I really don't know what you think or believe, 772 00:51:49,064 --> 00:51:54,355 - and I don't need to know. - I like taste, refinement. 773 00:51:54,438 --> 00:51:55,855 I really value that. 774 00:51:55,939 --> 00:51:57,522 I don't think that's a crime. 775 00:51:57,605 --> 00:51:59,730 And the idea of everything 776 00:51:59,814 --> 00:52:02,230 being reduced to total mediocrity, 777 00:52:02,313 --> 00:52:03,814 to the lowest common denominator, 778 00:52:03,897 --> 00:52:06,355 that does terrify me. 779 00:52:06,438 --> 00:52:09,230 - I hate the common herd. - So you must hate me, 780 00:52:09,313 --> 00:52:11,105 then, mustn't you? 781 00:52:11,188 --> 00:52:13,730 Because that's where I'm from. 782 00:52:13,814 --> 00:52:15,522 You really imagine I'd be here 783 00:52:15,605 --> 00:52:18,522 if that's what I felt? 784 00:52:18,605 --> 00:52:21,022 Is that what you think of me, Mary? 785 00:52:21,105 --> 00:52:22,522 I'd be really disappointed 786 00:52:22,605 --> 00:52:26,146 if that's what you thought of me. 787 00:52:26,230 --> 00:52:27,939 I had my chance then. 788 00:52:29,230 --> 00:52:32,064 I could tell him what I thought of him now. 789 00:52:32,146 --> 00:52:34,313 I so wish I could've found the words, Joe. 790 00:52:35,730 --> 00:52:37,313 I often think of that moment, 791 00:52:37,396 --> 00:52:39,355 imagine it again in my head, 792 00:52:39,438 --> 00:52:42,064 and when I do that, I really demolish him. 793 00:52:42,146 --> 00:52:43,939 I'm incredibly eloquent. 794 00:52:44,022 --> 00:52:46,897 But I was a very young woman, 795 00:52:46,980 --> 00:52:48,355 and there was this older man 796 00:52:48,438 --> 00:52:51,438 playing some strange game with me. 797 00:52:51,522 --> 00:52:54,814 I don't think I did too badly. 798 00:52:54,897 --> 00:52:57,396 You want to know what I think of you, Greville? 799 00:52:58,730 --> 00:53:01,230 Well, I think you're a bit sad. 800 00:53:01,313 --> 00:53:02,230 Sad? 801 00:53:03,897 --> 00:53:05,438 - In what way? - For some reason, 802 00:53:05,522 --> 00:53:07,855 you see me as a threat. 803 00:53:07,939 --> 00:53:10,563 A threat to your nice life 804 00:53:10,647 --> 00:53:12,146 and your country houses. 805 00:53:12,230 --> 00:53:13,438 Why on earth you should think that, 806 00:53:13,522 --> 00:53:15,188 I don't know. 807 00:53:15,271 --> 00:53:18,772 You know, maybe it's because I'm young 808 00:53:18,855 --> 00:53:20,730 and a woman, of course. 809 00:53:22,688 --> 00:53:26,355 And you think I don't show enough respect or something. 810 00:53:26,438 --> 00:53:30,064 And you want to stop me being a threat. 811 00:53:30,146 --> 00:53:33,313 And that's rather sad, don't you think? 812 00:53:33,396 --> 00:53:37,230 Spending so much energy over somebody like me? 813 00:53:43,980 --> 00:53:45,188 Thank you for the strawberries 814 00:53:45,271 --> 00:53:48,396 and, um... and good night. 815 00:53:50,605 --> 00:53:51,522 Right. 816 00:53:54,647 --> 00:53:57,897 That is what you feel, you probably won't 817 00:53:57,980 --> 00:54:00,022 want this, then. 818 00:54:00,105 --> 00:54:01,396 But I really would like you to take it. 819 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,730 I don't want it, whatever it is. 820 00:54:03,814 --> 00:54:05,772 Please, look inside. 821 00:54:05,855 --> 00:54:07,438 Then I'll go, I promise. 822 00:54:22,522 --> 00:54:24,563 What is this? 823 00:54:24,647 --> 00:54:25,855 The key to the wine cellar? 824 00:54:25,939 --> 00:54:28,022 It's the key to my house. 825 00:54:28,105 --> 00:54:30,855 - To your house? - Yes, and it doesn't mean 826 00:54:30,939 --> 00:54:32,522 - what you think it does. - No, whatever it means, 827 00:54:32,605 --> 00:54:34,605 - I don't want it. - This isn't a trick 828 00:54:34,688 --> 00:54:36,396 or some cheap gesture. 829 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,188 I want you to have the imagination 830 00:54:39,271 --> 00:54:42,438 to accept it, the key to my house. 831 00:54:42,522 --> 00:54:45,230 You can come there whenever you want. 832 00:54:45,313 --> 00:54:48,855 You can visit just once or many times. 833 00:54:48,939 --> 00:54:51,605 Just drop by, let yourself in, 834 00:54:51,688 --> 00:54:54,064 either alone or with a friend. 835 00:54:54,146 --> 00:54:56,814 Why on earth would I want to do that? 836 00:54:56,897 --> 00:54:58,313 There are all sorts of things in that house 837 00:54:58,396 --> 00:55:00,105 that I've collected over many years-- 838 00:55:00,188 --> 00:55:01,271 over my whole life. 839 00:55:02,730 --> 00:55:04,647 If I happen to be there when you come by, 840 00:55:04,730 --> 00:55:06,480 I wouldn't try to touch you. 841 00:55:08,730 --> 00:55:10,814 I would never attempt to be your lover. 842 00:55:17,064 --> 00:55:18,897 Greville, that really is too strange. 843 00:55:18,980 --> 00:55:21,980 I really would urge you not to refuse straightaway. 844 00:55:24,105 --> 00:55:28,105 How many of these do you hand out to girls each season? 845 00:55:28,188 --> 00:55:30,396 That is unkind, Mary. 846 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:31,605 I had that specially made for you. 847 00:55:33,647 --> 00:55:36,064 You won't believe me, but I've never done 848 00:55:36,146 --> 00:55:37,563 this before. 849 00:55:39,313 --> 00:55:40,980 I thought we might help each other. 850 00:55:41,064 --> 00:55:43,980 Help each other? In what way? 851 00:55:44,064 --> 00:55:45,939 - In all sorts of ways. - What does that mean? 852 00:55:46,022 --> 00:55:49,396 Professionally, of course. 853 00:55:51,230 --> 00:55:54,396 That goes without saying. 854 00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,730 And in other ways, too. 855 00:55:58,105 --> 00:56:00,230 Help each other understand the world. 856 00:56:00,313 --> 00:56:02,647 - Good night, Greville. 857 00:56:02,730 --> 00:56:04,271 Don't give it back to me now. 858 00:56:04,355 --> 00:56:06,105 Think about it overnight, at least. 859 00:56:06,188 --> 00:56:07,396 I've thought about it. 860 00:56:28,730 --> 00:56:32,022 He didn't come bursting back in, did he? 861 00:56:32,105 --> 00:56:34,146 Well, he didn't knock the door down, come rushing at you? 862 00:56:34,230 --> 00:56:37,772 No. No, Joe, he was a bit cleverer than that. 863 00:56:39,980 --> 00:56:43,188 I can still feel that night. 864 00:56:43,271 --> 00:56:46,563 How warm it was, 865 00:56:46,647 --> 00:56:49,022 how good I felt in that dress. 866 00:56:50,563 --> 00:56:54,188 But I was bloody nervous after he'd gone... 867 00:56:54,271 --> 00:56:56,855 with that creepy key. 868 00:57:30,980 --> 00:57:32,438 I thought, 869 00:57:32,522 --> 00:57:36,438 "I'll leave very early. 870 00:57:36,522 --> 00:57:38,022 Get away from this house. 871 00:57:38,105 --> 00:57:39,563 Get on with my life. 872 00:57:40,605 --> 00:57:42,480 Never come back." 873 00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,939 Hello, Mary. 874 00:57:56,146 --> 00:57:58,396 I've got a letter for you. 875 00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,022 A letter for me? 876 00:58:00,105 --> 00:58:03,522 Yes, from Greville. 877 00:58:09,313 --> 00:58:12,146 - It's very early. - Yes, it is, isn't it? 878 00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,647 Sometimes I love to get up early. 879 00:58:17,105 --> 00:58:20,647 I don't think we've been properly introduced. 880 00:58:20,730 --> 00:58:22,855 I'm Mary Gilbert. 881 00:58:22,939 --> 00:58:25,396 And I'm Liza Henton. 882 00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,647 There, now we've done it properly. 883 00:58:28,730 --> 00:58:31,022 She looked so beautiful. 884 00:58:31,105 --> 00:58:33,064 I couldn't help thinking, 885 00:58:33,146 --> 00:58:35,438 "Does he have sex with this girl? 886 00:58:35,522 --> 00:58:38,772 Does he keep several of them in his house? 887 00:58:38,855 --> 00:58:41,730 I mean, did it all start with them being given keys?" 888 00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,188 Thank you. 889 00:58:50,271 --> 00:58:51,939 He said that you should read it now, 890 00:58:52,022 --> 00:58:54,563 and that I should wait to see if there was a reply. 891 00:58:54,647 --> 00:58:56,313 I'll read it when I get home. 892 00:58:56,396 --> 00:58:58,313 He said if you could open it now. 893 00:59:00,897 --> 00:59:02,814 And then I suddenly thought, 894 00:59:02,897 --> 00:59:05,939 "What if it's the key again, and I have accepted it, 895 00:59:06,022 --> 00:59:07,064 you know, unwittingly?" 896 00:59:12,522 --> 00:59:14,438 Why don't you just open it? 897 00:59:17,939 --> 00:59:20,146 No need to be nervous. 898 00:59:20,230 --> 00:59:24,563 Oh, I assure you, I'm not nervous. 899 00:59:27,855 --> 00:59:29,647 Greville's voice: My dear Mary, 900 00:59:29,730 --> 00:59:31,146 you disappointed me last night. 901 00:59:31,230 --> 00:59:33,563 You should've taken the key. 902 00:59:33,647 --> 00:59:36,396 Liza has handed you this letter. 903 00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:37,939 Just look at her. 904 00:59:38,022 --> 00:59:40,897 Does she appear in any way frightened of me? 905 00:59:40,980 --> 00:59:43,772 Why don't you ask her about me? 906 00:59:43,855 --> 00:59:45,355 Please come out for dinner with me tonight, 907 00:59:45,438 --> 00:59:47,438 so we can settle our differences 908 00:59:47,522 --> 00:59:49,855 and part friends. 909 00:59:49,939 --> 00:59:52,939 It would be a much better way for us to end things. 910 00:59:56,230 --> 00:59:59,396 Thank you for waiting. There's no reply. 911 00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,271 - No reply at all? - No. 912 01:00:23,814 --> 01:00:26,772 For a few days, nothing at all happened. 913 01:00:26,855 --> 01:00:29,313 I thought I'd got rid of him. 914 01:00:31,313 --> 01:00:32,522 Life was going on as normal. 915 01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:45,814 But then my trip to America was canceled. 916 01:00:45,897 --> 01:00:47,730 They said to me, my bosses, 917 01:00:47,814 --> 01:00:51,230 they decided the timing wasn't quite right. 918 01:00:51,313 --> 01:00:53,438 And a few months later, 919 01:00:53,522 --> 01:00:56,438 my contract wasn't renewed. 920 01:00:58,855 --> 01:01:01,980 I was told my style of journalism, 921 01:01:02,064 --> 01:01:03,772 you know, the voice of youth, 922 01:01:03,855 --> 01:01:05,939 was no longer in fashion. 923 01:01:08,647 --> 01:01:10,605 I mean, I wasn't too disturbed. 924 01:01:10,688 --> 01:01:13,772 I felt I could get a job on any national newspaper 925 01:01:13,855 --> 01:01:18,438 after the success I had, but one by one, 926 01:01:18,522 --> 01:01:19,939 for a whole variety of reasons, 927 01:01:20,022 --> 01:01:22,730 they said no. 928 01:01:22,814 --> 01:01:24,980 I heard that I was meant 929 01:01:25,064 --> 01:01:27,438 to be very difficult 930 01:01:27,522 --> 01:01:30,730 and unreliable and greedy. 931 01:01:32,355 --> 01:01:37,105 I realized Greville was behind it, of course. 932 01:01:37,188 --> 01:01:40,563 He was friendly with the newspaper proprietors 933 01:01:40,647 --> 01:01:44,647 and knew a lot about their personal lives, too. 934 01:01:44,730 --> 01:01:46,688 Well, didn't you find Greville 935 01:01:46,772 --> 01:01:48,563 and make him do something or-- 936 01:01:48,647 --> 01:01:51,688 No, I didn't, Joe. 937 01:01:51,772 --> 01:01:55,146 I just thought, "Well, what the hell?" 938 01:01:55,230 --> 01:01:58,396 I've saved a little money. 939 01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,980 I need a break, you know, I'll go abroad. 940 01:02:01,064 --> 01:02:06,064 Travel, and write another book." 941 01:02:08,647 --> 01:02:10,522 And I did travel, Joe. 942 01:02:13,647 --> 01:02:15,396 I had a few love affairs... 943 01:02:17,355 --> 01:02:19,313 one of which was great fun, 944 01:02:19,396 --> 01:02:21,897 but I wasn't doing much writing. 945 01:02:21,980 --> 01:02:26,230 So one day, I decided to come home. 946 01:02:49,022 --> 01:02:50,814 And I came back here. 947 01:02:54,647 --> 01:02:59,772 I was going out with a young painter at that time. 948 01:03:03,522 --> 01:03:06,605 And he'd become very fashionable, 949 01:03:06,688 --> 01:03:09,855 and he was invited by Mr. Graham. 950 01:03:09,939 --> 01:03:11,230 And my lover said to me, 951 01:03:11,313 --> 01:03:12,855 "You know, why don't you come?" 952 01:03:12,939 --> 01:03:15,396 And I thought, "Why not? 953 01:03:18,772 --> 01:03:20,563 If Greville happens to be there, 954 01:03:20,647 --> 01:03:23,022 which seems highly unlikely after all this time, 955 01:03:23,105 --> 01:03:24,730 I mean, what can he do to me now? 956 01:03:24,814 --> 01:03:26,772 He can do nothing." 957 01:03:28,939 --> 01:03:32,688 And I thought, "You know, maybe I can do something to him. 958 01:03:32,772 --> 01:03:35,730 Be devastating, you know, be witty. 959 01:03:35,814 --> 01:03:37,605 Reduce him to a little heap." 960 01:03:47,772 --> 01:03:49,855 It's so different. 961 01:03:49,939 --> 01:03:53,897 Mr. Graham had torn out the beautiful conservatory, 962 01:03:53,980 --> 01:03:56,855 and built this horrible modern room, 963 01:03:56,939 --> 01:03:59,022 you know, in an attempt to be with it. 964 01:04:03,355 --> 01:04:05,271 - I'm okay. How are you? - Yeah, I'm fine. 965 01:04:05,355 --> 01:04:07,772 You know, she used to write some really racy stuff. 966 01:04:07,855 --> 01:04:10,064 - Didn't you? - What do you mean, "used to"? 967 01:04:10,146 --> 01:04:12,438 And some quite heavy stuff, too. 968 01:04:12,522 --> 01:04:14,146 She can really write, this one. 969 01:04:14,230 --> 01:04:17,313 - Oh, that's good to know. - Yes, you're right. 970 01:04:17,396 --> 01:04:19,064 - See you in a while. - OK. 971 01:04:19,146 --> 01:04:21,480 - Where have you been? 972 01:04:21,563 --> 01:04:25,438 Well, I've been abroad. In the sun, you know, working, of course. 973 01:04:25,522 --> 01:04:26,772 Writing and planning. 974 01:04:26,855 --> 01:04:28,522 And what have you been planning? 975 01:04:28,605 --> 01:04:32,480 Oh, I'm planning a trilogy of books about now. 976 01:04:32,563 --> 01:04:33,980 And what are the titles? 977 01:04:34,064 --> 01:04:36,688 The title, well, I think the title 978 01:04:36,772 --> 01:04:37,855 will definitely have the word, 979 01:04:37,939 --> 01:04:39,897 you know, "change" in it. 980 01:04:39,980 --> 01:04:40,980 Something about change. 981 01:04:41,064 --> 01:04:42,605 Or else, I was thinking... 982 01:04:42,688 --> 01:04:46,730 And there he was, quite suddenly, right there. 983 01:04:48,647 --> 01:04:50,897 He was all trussed up in a waistcoat, 984 01:04:50,980 --> 01:04:53,064 though it was summer. 985 01:04:53,146 --> 01:04:57,105 He seemed like he was from another age, 986 01:04:57,188 --> 01:04:58,897 like one of his wines, 987 01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,814 trying to weave his spell as he worked the room. 988 01:05:03,897 --> 01:05:06,772 Soon we will be nostalgic for glamour again, 989 01:05:06,855 --> 01:05:09,230 long dresses, and the funny 990 01:05:09,313 --> 01:05:12,313 old conservatory that used to be here. 991 01:05:12,396 --> 01:05:14,605 You don't see faces coming towards you anymore, 992 01:05:14,688 --> 01:05:15,897 just an army of legs. 993 01:05:18,897 --> 01:05:22,146 It's the same with these new movies. 994 01:05:22,230 --> 01:05:26,064 People don't want their noses rubbed along the kitchen floor. 995 01:05:26,146 --> 01:05:27,855 Who is that guy? 996 01:05:27,939 --> 01:05:31,814 Oh, that's just somebody I used to know a long time ago. 997 01:05:31,897 --> 01:05:36,064 Yeah, we once nearly shared a salad in this very house. 998 01:05:36,146 --> 01:05:40,480 And we-- we did eat some strawberries together, too... 999 01:05:44,855 --> 01:05:46,814 ...with clotted cream. 1000 01:05:46,897 --> 01:05:48,480 Squalid piece of work. 1001 01:05:48,563 --> 01:05:51,230 I thought it was... depressing. 1002 01:05:59,230 --> 01:06:01,355 Oh, God. 1003 01:06:01,438 --> 01:06:02,647 Oh, God! 1004 01:06:02,730 --> 01:06:04,605 Oh! Oh, God, this is 1005 01:06:04,688 --> 01:06:06,730 an ugly room, isn't it? 1006 01:06:06,814 --> 01:06:09,146 Didn't you go up to him at this party? 1007 01:06:09,230 --> 01:06:11,396 Didn't you say something? 1008 01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:12,563 You should've got hold of him, 1009 01:06:12,647 --> 01:06:14,064 yanked him in front of people. 1010 01:06:14,146 --> 01:06:15,230 Did you do that? 1011 01:06:15,313 --> 01:06:16,939 Did you say, "You fucking prick. 1012 01:06:17,022 --> 01:06:19,313 You done this to me, now you fucking do 1013 01:06:19,396 --> 01:06:21,022 something about it, and get me my job back"? 1014 01:06:21,105 --> 01:06:23,313 I didn't say that, Joe, no. 1015 01:06:23,396 --> 01:06:26,271 - You didn't? - I couldn't. 1016 01:06:26,355 --> 01:06:28,688 - But why not? - Don't get impatient with me, 1017 01:06:28,772 --> 01:06:30,022 Joe, please. 1018 01:06:30,105 --> 01:06:32,563 Sorry, I didn't mean to shout. 1019 01:06:32,647 --> 01:06:35,730 I just wanted you to get this fucker, that's all. 1020 01:06:35,814 --> 01:06:38,980 Well, it wasn't gonna be easy, Joe. 1021 01:06:39,064 --> 01:06:42,064 Everything had moved on while I'd been on my travels. 1022 01:06:42,146 --> 01:06:44,396 I was wearing the right clothes, of course, 1023 01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:48,980 but inside I felt a stranger. 1024 01:06:50,730 --> 01:06:55,105 It rarely pays to be on the vanguard of things, Joe, 1025 01:06:55,188 --> 01:06:57,730 to be one of the first. 1026 01:06:57,814 --> 01:06:59,563 You're superseded very quickly. 1027 01:07:01,022 --> 01:07:02,355 But much more important than that, 1028 01:07:02,438 --> 01:07:04,313 I wasn't there in my own right. 1029 01:07:04,396 --> 01:07:06,855 I was just with my boyfriend. 1030 01:07:08,563 --> 01:07:11,772 I was thinking, "I used to be invited here 1031 01:07:11,855 --> 01:07:14,064 when I was a fashionable writer." 1032 01:07:14,146 --> 01:07:15,980 I just want to talk to somebody over there. 1033 01:07:16,064 --> 01:07:18,814 - I'll be back. - Don't be long. 1034 01:07:31,897 --> 01:07:35,105 People want fantasy and stories 1035 01:07:35,188 --> 01:07:37,730 and beautiful worlds to escape to. 1036 01:07:37,814 --> 01:07:39,480 I mean, that's always been the case, 1037 01:07:39,563 --> 01:07:41,064 and it always will. 1038 01:07:54,064 --> 01:07:55,730 And there you have it. 1039 01:07:55,814 --> 01:07:57,730 Writers tell us how to live our lives. 1040 01:08:03,522 --> 01:08:05,396 Can't go wrong with Turkish Delight, 1041 01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:07,313 and probably the Turks have never even heard of it. 1042 01:08:07,396 --> 01:08:11,064 - Sorry, I'm just gabbling. 1043 01:08:25,855 --> 01:08:27,271 Excuse me. 1044 01:08:46,939 --> 01:08:50,230 Something happened at this party 1045 01:08:50,313 --> 01:08:52,730 that had a big effect on me. 1046 01:08:52,814 --> 01:08:56,064 I mean, a lot of what they say is new about these movies 1047 01:08:56,146 --> 01:08:58,897 has, in fact, been done loads of times before... 1048 01:08:58,980 --> 01:09:00,522 Greville likes to talk, doesn't he? 1049 01:09:02,688 --> 01:09:05,313 ...by people who were true artists. 1050 01:09:05,396 --> 01:09:08,396 That is why their work hasn't dated. 1051 01:09:08,480 --> 01:09:10,897 Unlike this new breed now, 1052 01:09:10,980 --> 01:09:14,396 addicted to gimmicks and the latest fad. 1053 01:09:14,480 --> 01:09:16,396 And this man suddenly piped up. 1054 01:09:16,480 --> 01:09:18,980 Man #2: That's complete crap. 1055 01:09:20,480 --> 01:09:22,064 Everything you've said 1056 01:09:22,146 --> 01:09:24,647 is just such utter bollocks. 1057 01:09:26,563 --> 01:09:29,271 No respect for this older man in a waistcoat, 1058 01:09:29,355 --> 01:09:31,855 he just gave it to him and went. 1059 01:09:33,271 --> 01:09:35,980 What a charming young man. 1060 01:09:36,064 --> 01:09:37,647 Fascinating that he wanted 1061 01:09:37,730 --> 01:09:39,438 to share his opinions with us. 1062 01:09:39,522 --> 01:09:42,688 I thought, "I should've done that. 1063 01:09:44,563 --> 01:09:46,980 Why didn't I do that to Greville?" 1064 01:09:52,105 --> 01:09:53,688 Ah, then of course, I realized 1065 01:09:55,230 --> 01:09:58,897 I could never talk to Greville like that-- 1066 01:09:58,980 --> 01:10:00,980 brutal and rude. 1067 01:10:01,064 --> 01:10:03,105 I don't know. 1068 01:10:03,188 --> 01:10:05,730 I just-- maybe because I belonged to another time? 1069 01:10:05,814 --> 01:10:11,105 I... I don't know why I couldn't. 1070 01:10:11,188 --> 01:10:14,814 Because I was afraid. I couldn't even go up to him at that party. 1071 01:10:14,897 --> 01:10:17,230 He's looking for someone else to talk to, 1072 01:10:17,313 --> 01:10:21,814 to engage with, and I'm almost hiding. 1073 01:10:21,897 --> 01:10:27,188 And then... he looks at me. 1074 01:10:28,522 --> 01:10:29,897 He looks across at me. 1075 01:10:31,897 --> 01:10:34,480 And though he didn't say anything, 1076 01:10:34,563 --> 01:10:36,271 I could hear him saying... 1077 01:10:36,355 --> 01:10:38,271 But you are still mine. 1078 01:10:43,064 --> 01:10:46,146 But you are still mine, 1079 01:10:46,230 --> 01:10:47,605 aren't you, Mary? 1080 01:10:59,064 --> 01:11:01,188 I tried not to run, 1081 01:11:01,271 --> 01:11:04,230 not to look like I was fleeing his presence. 1082 01:11:25,814 --> 01:11:28,313 I didn't want to creep out of there either, 1083 01:11:28,396 --> 01:11:31,939 but I got away from this house as quick as I could. 1084 01:11:42,313 --> 01:11:43,897 What, you left here without saying 1085 01:11:43,980 --> 01:11:45,313 anything to him? 1086 01:11:46,647 --> 01:11:51,105 That's right. I left him looking for me. 1087 01:11:53,146 --> 01:11:55,814 Yeah, but you did speak to him again, didn't you? 1088 01:11:58,647 --> 01:12:02,313 - Go on. 1089 01:12:08,772 --> 01:12:11,814 For a few months... 1090 01:12:11,897 --> 01:12:16,064 or maybe a year, I sunk myself 1091 01:12:16,146 --> 01:12:20,022 into my love affair with the artist. 1092 01:12:20,105 --> 01:12:25,688 He was getting really successful, almost famous. 1093 01:12:30,563 --> 01:12:34,396 But he was very careful with money. 1094 01:12:36,522 --> 01:12:38,980 Extremely mean, in fact. 1095 01:12:45,688 --> 01:12:48,855 So, for a time, we lived in this bedsit, 1096 01:12:48,939 --> 01:12:53,313 and he disappeared for days on end to his studio. 1097 01:12:53,396 --> 01:12:55,271 When he wasn't painting, 1098 01:12:55,355 --> 01:12:58,230 he was thinking deep thoughts. 1099 01:13:02,897 --> 01:13:06,730 He had an awful lot of deep thoughts, it seems, 1100 01:13:06,814 --> 01:13:09,355 none of which I ever got to hear. 1101 01:13:11,522 --> 01:13:15,105 And the room was just crammed with his things, 1102 01:13:15,188 --> 01:13:17,897 as well as his thoughts. 1103 01:13:17,980 --> 01:13:21,480 And I started having a little tipple 1104 01:13:21,563 --> 01:13:24,480 at various moments of the day. 1105 01:13:24,563 --> 01:13:26,730 I found it helped the creative flow. 1106 01:13:26,814 --> 01:13:28,814 - Shit! Fuck! 1107 01:13:28,897 --> 01:13:31,814 Oh, I nearly cut myself. 1108 01:13:31,897 --> 01:13:33,688 Stepped on one of your bloody wineglasses. 1109 01:13:33,772 --> 01:13:35,146 I told you so many times, 1110 01:13:35,230 --> 01:13:37,605 don't leave glasses on the floor, okay? 1111 01:13:38,897 --> 01:13:40,480 It's a real pigsty in here. 1112 01:13:40,563 --> 01:13:43,188 You have to clear it all up, you understand? 1113 01:13:43,271 --> 01:13:45,146 Yeah, I understand. 1114 01:13:45,230 --> 01:13:46,855 I'll write it down a hundred times. 1115 01:13:46,939 --> 01:13:49,730 - "It's a real pigsty in here." - And then what 1116 01:13:49,814 --> 01:13:52,855 - are you gonna do about it? - What am I gonna do about it? 1117 01:13:52,939 --> 01:13:54,313 Yes. 1118 01:13:56,064 --> 01:13:57,980 Well, maybe I'll start by making a list 1119 01:13:58,064 --> 01:13:59,188 of all the things of yours 1120 01:13:59,271 --> 01:14:00,688 I'm not allowed to throw out. 1121 01:14:00,772 --> 01:14:02,188 "What are you doing, Mary? 1122 01:14:02,271 --> 01:14:04,022 You've moved the cornflake packet." 1123 01:14:04,105 --> 01:14:05,730 When have I ever said that? 1124 01:14:05,814 --> 01:14:07,730 You always say things like that. 1125 01:14:07,814 --> 01:14:09,814 I mean, just the other day you accused me 1126 01:14:09,897 --> 01:14:13,022 of throwing out that stupid little green cloth 1127 01:14:13,105 --> 01:14:15,188 you're forever wiping the gramophone with. 1128 01:14:15,271 --> 01:14:17,730 Just clean the place up, okay? 1129 01:14:19,438 --> 01:14:22,022 After all, you've got the time, haven't you? 1130 01:14:22,105 --> 01:14:26,230 Oh, unlike you, you mean? 1131 01:14:26,313 --> 01:14:30,480 Yes. I don't know what you do all day, Mary. 1132 01:14:41,438 --> 01:14:43,480 I was beginning to write again-- 1133 01:14:43,563 --> 01:14:46,688 another attempt at a novel. 1134 01:14:46,772 --> 01:14:49,772 Outside all sorts of new things were happening, 1135 01:14:49,855 --> 01:14:51,146 and I thought I should be able 1136 01:14:51,230 --> 01:14:53,980 to catch them, describe them. 1137 01:14:55,146 --> 01:14:57,688 But the funny thing was... 1138 01:15:00,022 --> 01:15:02,855 ...it didn't matter whether I started the story 1139 01:15:02,939 --> 01:15:05,939 on a train or in the desert 1140 01:15:06,022 --> 01:15:08,688 or outside Buckingham Palace. 1141 01:15:39,064 --> 01:15:41,855 It always-- always led back 1142 01:15:41,939 --> 01:15:44,855 to the cellar and Greville. 1143 01:16:04,897 --> 01:16:06,730 One day, I started to write 1144 01:16:06,814 --> 01:16:08,814 directly on a typewriter. 1145 01:16:08,897 --> 01:16:13,022 Up till then, I'd always done the first draft in longhand. 1146 01:16:13,105 --> 01:16:14,772 It was a nice day. 1147 01:16:14,855 --> 01:16:17,022 There were church bells outside the window. 1148 01:16:17,105 --> 01:16:20,563 Somebody was getting married down the street. 1149 01:16:21,647 --> 01:16:23,396 And I was flying-- 1150 01:16:24,730 --> 01:16:27,355 absolutely flying with my story. 1151 01:17:10,271 --> 01:17:13,188 And then I wasn't flying anymore. 1152 01:17:15,814 --> 01:17:17,022 Every time this happened, 1153 01:17:17,105 --> 01:17:20,980 my confidence took a further little knock. 1154 01:17:24,105 --> 01:17:27,730 When you have success... without really 1155 01:17:27,814 --> 01:17:29,605 thinking about it when you're very young, 1156 01:17:29,688 --> 01:17:33,146 and you're not quite sure how you did all that... 1157 01:17:34,814 --> 01:17:37,396 your confidence can go amazingly quickly 1158 01:17:37,480 --> 01:17:39,480 when things go wrong. 1159 01:17:44,022 --> 01:17:46,939 Escape wasn't proving easy, Joe. 1160 01:17:51,480 --> 01:17:52,980 I knew a lot of people, 1161 01:17:53,064 --> 01:17:54,814 you know, friends, acquaintances, 1162 01:17:54,897 --> 01:17:57,772 who'd become successful around that time, 1163 01:17:57,855 --> 01:18:01,647 and then destroyed themselves with drink and drugs. 1164 01:18:10,105 --> 01:18:12,438 And I decided I was definitely 1165 01:18:12,522 --> 01:18:14,855 not going to be one of them. 1166 01:18:19,563 --> 01:18:21,355 Try my hardest. 1167 01:18:22,563 --> 01:18:23,480 Good. 1168 01:18:24,814 --> 01:18:28,480 - I pulled myself together. - Great. 1169 01:18:28,563 --> 01:18:30,480 Yeah, I started going out again, 1170 01:18:30,563 --> 01:18:33,396 attending private views with my boyfriend. 1171 01:18:37,355 --> 01:18:38,271 Come on! 1172 01:18:40,188 --> 01:18:42,022 Hurry up! 1173 01:18:43,396 --> 01:18:44,730 - Woman #2: Coming. - Come on. 1174 01:18:46,480 --> 01:18:47,980 Of course, I realized that 1175 01:18:48,064 --> 01:18:51,064 there was a slight chance I might see Greville, 1176 01:18:51,146 --> 01:18:54,980 but I was ready for it. 1177 01:18:55,064 --> 01:18:56,855 Well, yeah, because you ain't spoken to him 1178 01:18:56,939 --> 01:18:58,980 about him getting you fired. 1179 01:18:59,064 --> 01:19:00,313 I hadn't, no. 1180 01:19:00,396 --> 01:19:02,688 And you got to speak to him about that. 1181 01:19:03,730 --> 01:19:05,105 That's right. 1182 01:19:07,897 --> 01:19:10,105 - So at one 1183 01:19:10,188 --> 01:19:12,313 particular private view, 1184 01:19:12,396 --> 01:19:15,522 being held at a house in the country, 1185 01:19:15,605 --> 01:19:18,480 I was sitting there with my boyfriend. 1186 01:19:18,563 --> 01:19:20,355 We'd been breaking up for months, 1187 01:19:20,438 --> 01:19:22,980 only we'd been doing it in slow motion, 1188 01:19:23,064 --> 01:19:24,396 a little bit each week. 1189 01:19:24,480 --> 01:19:26,563 On this particular night, what we were saying 1190 01:19:26,647 --> 01:19:31,064 to each other was... it's fairly terminal. 1191 01:19:31,146 --> 01:19:34,271 Maybe it's because I... 1192 01:19:35,313 --> 01:19:36,605 need more space. 1193 01:19:37,855 --> 01:19:40,355 I think I really do need 1194 01:19:40,438 --> 01:19:41,897 a lot more space. 1195 01:19:41,980 --> 01:19:45,188 He was too mean to buy more space, 1196 01:19:45,271 --> 01:19:48,313 so he had to kick me out instead. 1197 01:19:48,396 --> 01:19:50,772 Actually, I wasn't slow in pointing this out. 1198 01:19:51,814 --> 01:19:53,647 You know what, Zach? 1199 01:19:53,730 --> 01:19:55,355 The other day, I was trying to think 1200 01:19:55,438 --> 01:19:57,647 of the last thing you bought me-- 1201 01:19:57,730 --> 01:19:59,230 any kind of present. 1202 01:19:59,313 --> 01:20:01,897 You know what it was? 1203 01:20:01,980 --> 01:20:03,772 A single pink balloon 1204 01:20:03,855 --> 01:20:05,772 to celebrate my birthday. 1205 01:20:05,855 --> 01:20:08,271 I don't believe in birthdays, never have. 1206 01:20:08,355 --> 01:20:10,897 Now, why doesn't that surprise me? 1207 01:20:10,980 --> 01:20:12,480 But I know what you'd like. 1208 01:20:13,939 --> 01:20:16,396 What would I like? 1209 01:20:16,480 --> 01:20:17,939 You'd like a crate of vodka delivered 1210 01:20:18,022 --> 01:20:20,064 at the beginning of every week. 1211 01:20:20,146 --> 01:20:22,772 You'd wake up, there it'd be 1212 01:20:22,855 --> 01:20:25,313 at the end of the bed. 1213 01:20:25,396 --> 01:20:28,939 Once a week? Well, that certainly wouldn't be enough. 1214 01:20:30,271 --> 01:20:32,146 So there we were, right in the middle 1215 01:20:32,230 --> 01:20:35,772 of our breakup, and there... 1216 01:20:37,313 --> 01:20:40,939 - there was Greville. - Hello, I saw you 1217 01:20:41,022 --> 01:20:43,647 at the Glyn Perry's in August. 1218 01:20:43,730 --> 01:20:46,355 You don't remember? I think we were sitting quite near each other. 1219 01:20:46,438 --> 01:20:48,355 He was dressed in his usual 1220 01:20:48,438 --> 01:20:49,939 old-fashioned way, 1221 01:20:50,022 --> 01:20:53,647 almost defiantly out of keeping with the times. 1222 01:20:53,730 --> 01:20:56,563 Keeps avoiding catching my eye. 1223 01:20:56,647 --> 01:20:58,438 I mean, he knows I'm there. 1224 01:20:58,522 --> 01:21:01,230 I know he's seen me, but he... 1225 01:21:01,313 --> 01:21:03,563 he won't look at me. 1226 01:21:03,647 --> 01:21:05,230 No, he's smiling 1227 01:21:05,313 --> 01:21:08,688 and trying to gossip with people. 1228 01:21:10,230 --> 01:21:12,897 I did enjoy the exhibition. 1229 01:21:12,980 --> 01:21:16,105 Tell me, were they meant to be people or fruit? 1230 01:21:16,188 --> 01:21:18,396 - What? - The shapes. 1231 01:21:18,480 --> 01:21:19,980 They looked like fruit to me, 1232 01:21:20,105 --> 01:21:21,980 but somebody said they were meant to be people. 1233 01:21:22,064 --> 01:21:24,271 And Liza was there as well. 1234 01:21:24,355 --> 01:21:26,313 She was dressed very oddly, too-- 1235 01:21:26,396 --> 01:21:28,438 almost like her mother might have been. 1236 01:21:28,522 --> 01:21:30,313 I'm having a party in my little flat 1237 01:21:30,396 --> 01:21:32,146 in Kensington in a few weeks. 1238 01:21:32,230 --> 01:21:33,396 I do hope you'll come. 1239 01:21:33,480 --> 01:21:35,355 She was still very young, 1240 01:21:35,438 --> 01:21:37,355 and yet she looked so out of place. 1241 01:21:37,438 --> 01:21:38,939 Apparently, there are only 1242 01:21:39,022 --> 01:21:41,064 12 interesting people in London, 1243 01:21:41,146 --> 01:21:42,271 and so it will have to be a very 1244 01:21:42,355 --> 01:21:44,188 tiny gathering, as you can imagine, 1245 01:21:44,271 --> 01:21:45,438 but you are one of them. 1246 01:21:46,647 --> 01:21:47,772 Hello, did you get my letter? 1247 01:21:49,563 --> 01:21:53,480 Post is terrible, but I've had an idea for a book. 1248 01:21:53,563 --> 01:21:55,105 I was wondering if we could talk about it. 1249 01:21:56,188 --> 01:21:57,814 It's a memoir, really. 1250 01:21:57,897 --> 01:22:00,438 I think it would make quite a lively read-- 1251 01:22:00,522 --> 01:22:03,313 the time I spent with Lloyd George and Churchill. 1252 01:22:03,396 --> 01:22:07,355 You see, I worked on Churchill's papers. 1253 01:22:07,438 --> 01:22:09,355 Got to know him quite well. 1254 01:22:09,438 --> 01:22:11,188 Got drunk with him, actually. 1255 01:22:11,271 --> 01:22:13,313 It was like their joke on the world. 1256 01:22:13,396 --> 01:22:16,855 You know, this strange couple weaving some sort of spell 1257 01:22:16,939 --> 01:22:20,105 wasn't really working anymore. 1258 01:22:20,188 --> 01:22:23,855 I think you'll be surprised in more ways than one. 1259 01:22:23,939 --> 01:22:24,897 Give me a call. 1260 01:22:29,480 --> 01:22:32,355 But it's like he knew his power 1261 01:22:32,438 --> 01:22:35,022 - was on the wane. 1262 01:22:35,105 --> 01:22:37,522 The great newspaper proprietors 1263 01:22:37,605 --> 01:22:40,605 he was close to were now dead. 1264 01:22:40,688 --> 01:22:44,146 He didn't have nearly so many influential friends. 1265 01:22:47,022 --> 01:22:50,064 He was standing very straight-- 1266 01:22:50,146 --> 01:22:51,897 you know, like he was determined 1267 01:22:51,980 --> 01:22:56,230 not to be engulfed by this new world-- 1268 01:22:56,313 --> 01:22:59,064 this world he had first sensed maybe 1269 01:22:59,146 --> 01:23:01,438 when he met me. 1270 01:23:01,522 --> 01:23:04,522 I was almost relishing watching him like that. 1271 01:23:06,022 --> 01:23:08,688 And I was-- I was thinking about Liza. 1272 01:23:13,022 --> 01:23:15,688 Was that what he wanted me to become? 1273 01:23:17,647 --> 01:23:20,480 Was he one of the 12 most interesting men in London? 1274 01:23:20,563 --> 01:23:22,188 Apparently, yes. Yes. 1275 01:23:22,271 --> 01:23:24,230 What number does that make me, I wonder? 1276 01:23:24,313 --> 01:23:26,647 Well, of course, you're number one, Greville. 1277 01:23:26,730 --> 01:23:29,438 And then their car draws up, 1278 01:23:29,522 --> 01:23:31,688 and they both get in. 1279 01:23:31,772 --> 01:23:34,355 I'm feeling almost relaxed now. 1280 01:23:34,438 --> 01:23:38,980 They're going, and nothing has happened. 1281 01:23:39,064 --> 01:23:42,188 Nothing bad has occurred at all. 1282 01:23:42,271 --> 01:23:44,146 And I remember so clearly, 1283 01:23:44,230 --> 01:23:45,855 watching them together in the back of the car. 1284 01:23:47,855 --> 01:23:49,563 The car draws off... 1285 01:23:56,939 --> 01:23:59,522 ...and then he stares straight at me. 1286 01:23:59,605 --> 01:24:02,730 - He mouths... - Help me. 1287 01:24:02,814 --> 01:24:04,480 Help me. 1288 01:24:05,688 --> 01:24:09,980 "Help me, Mary." 1289 01:24:10,064 --> 01:24:12,396 Help me, Mary. 1290 01:24:16,897 --> 01:24:17,897 Help me. 1291 01:24:19,563 --> 01:24:23,313 It wasn't a pathetic cry, Joe. 1292 01:24:23,396 --> 01:24:27,022 Quite the reverse. It was terrifying. 1293 01:24:28,064 --> 01:24:30,480 Help me, Mary. 1294 01:24:30,563 --> 01:24:31,939 Help me. 1295 01:25:10,688 --> 01:25:12,939 And then I never saw him again, Joe. 1296 01:25:13,980 --> 01:25:16,814 What? You didn't? 1297 01:25:18,022 --> 01:25:20,939 - No. - You never ever said 1298 01:25:21,022 --> 01:25:22,396 anything about what he'd done to you? 1299 01:25:22,480 --> 01:25:24,230 No. 1300 01:25:24,313 --> 01:25:26,271 You didn't ring him up or anything 1301 01:25:26,355 --> 01:25:28,814 and say, "Why should I help you? 1302 01:25:28,897 --> 01:25:31,146 You did this terrible thing to me." 1303 01:25:33,855 --> 01:25:34,855 No. 1304 01:25:51,563 --> 01:25:55,022 I didn't see him again, Joe. 1305 01:25:55,105 --> 01:25:56,438 Until today. 1306 01:25:57,647 --> 01:25:58,605 Today? 1307 01:25:59,647 --> 01:26:01,939 I saw him today. 1308 01:26:02,022 --> 01:26:04,855 But, well, he must be old, mustn't he? 1309 01:26:04,939 --> 01:26:07,647 I mean, it's a long time ago. 1310 01:26:07,730 --> 01:26:10,480 He must be an incredibly old man. 1311 01:26:10,563 --> 01:26:13,438 You would've thought so, wouldn't you, Joe? 1312 01:26:13,522 --> 01:26:15,563 What do you mean? 1313 01:26:16,814 --> 01:26:18,980 Where did you see him? 1314 01:26:26,522 --> 01:26:29,480 I often go for a walk in the park in the morning, 1315 01:26:29,563 --> 01:26:31,188 and usually it's all right, 1316 01:26:31,271 --> 01:26:34,855 alone with one's thoughts, planning the next day. 1317 01:26:36,772 --> 01:26:37,730 Mary! 1318 01:26:41,980 --> 01:26:43,480 Mary! 1319 01:27:04,855 --> 01:27:06,688 I didn't hear my name again, 1320 01:27:06,772 --> 01:27:08,855 so I just got on with my walk. 1321 01:27:15,563 --> 01:27:17,730 I'm dimly aware of this figure 1322 01:27:17,814 --> 01:27:19,396 just a little further on 1323 01:27:19,480 --> 01:27:23,064 keeping pace with me, walking along another path. 1324 01:27:26,939 --> 01:27:28,939 He didn't seem to be looking at me. 1325 01:27:29,022 --> 01:27:32,230 I realized, you know, he must have been calling somebody else. 1326 01:27:36,230 --> 01:27:39,814 And I get to my usual spot. 1327 01:27:39,897 --> 01:27:43,271 I often sit there for a few minutes. 1328 01:27:54,855 --> 01:27:56,480 Mary. 1329 01:27:58,772 --> 01:28:01,480 - Mary! - I thought, 1330 01:28:01,563 --> 01:28:04,188 "Looks terribly like Greville. 1331 01:28:04,271 --> 01:28:08,522 No, that's impossible 'cause he's not old... 1332 01:28:08,605 --> 01:28:11,313 and Greville was much older than me. 1333 01:28:19,146 --> 01:28:22,188 No, no, it must be somebody else." 1334 01:28:24,022 --> 01:28:27,188 Now, I know what you're thinking. It was the drink. 1335 01:28:28,980 --> 01:28:30,271 This drink, in fact. 1336 01:28:31,647 --> 01:28:33,522 And of course, you could be right, Joe... 1337 01:28:36,188 --> 01:28:37,939 because this isn't a ghost story. 1338 01:28:38,022 --> 01:28:39,438 No. 1339 01:28:39,522 --> 01:28:42,855 No, this is worse than a ghost story. 1340 01:28:44,105 --> 01:28:46,396 For me, anyway. 1341 01:28:46,480 --> 01:28:48,438 Why? 1342 01:28:48,522 --> 01:28:51,647 What happened? Did he come any closer? 1343 01:28:53,480 --> 01:28:56,271 It's very important, because of what 1344 01:28:56,355 --> 01:28:57,730 happens next, for you to understand. 1345 01:28:57,814 --> 01:28:59,230 I don't usually sit in the park 1346 01:28:59,313 --> 01:29:02,105 in the morning feeling sorry for myself. 1347 01:29:02,188 --> 01:29:06,522 I hate the idea. I haven't spent all these years in self-pity. 1348 01:29:07,772 --> 01:29:09,188 Do you follow that, Joe? 1349 01:29:10,980 --> 01:29:14,355 - Yeah. - I mean, I had rebuilt, 1350 01:29:14,438 --> 01:29:16,855 you know, a sort of career for myself 1351 01:29:16,939 --> 01:29:20,313 after the setbacks caused by Greville. 1352 01:29:20,396 --> 01:29:22,897 I've written for magazines 1353 01:29:22,980 --> 01:29:26,480 about gardening and lifestyle and antiques. 1354 01:29:26,563 --> 01:29:28,647 I've been able to earn a reasonable living. 1355 01:29:28,730 --> 01:29:30,939 You know, many people would think 1356 01:29:31,022 --> 01:29:32,855 I'd been lucky to lead such a life. 1357 01:29:34,855 --> 01:29:36,480 You understand me, Joe? 1358 01:29:36,563 --> 01:29:39,188 Yeah, I do. 1359 01:29:44,855 --> 01:29:46,605 I thought it was you, Mary. 1360 01:29:48,855 --> 01:29:50,438 What are you doing here... 1361 01:29:51,605 --> 01:29:53,271 all on your own? 1362 01:29:54,688 --> 01:29:56,772 I always thought if I saw you again, 1363 01:29:56,855 --> 01:29:59,396 it would be in this park, 1364 01:29:59,480 --> 01:30:03,480 and you would be on your own. 1365 01:30:03,563 --> 01:30:04,980 I couldn't speak, 1366 01:30:05,064 --> 01:30:07,647 but he seemed to sense what I was thinking. 1367 01:30:07,730 --> 01:30:09,688 I'm not alone, in fact. 1368 01:30:11,605 --> 01:30:12,772 I peered at them. 1369 01:30:15,146 --> 01:30:18,146 Could one of them have been Liza? 1370 01:30:18,230 --> 01:30:20,188 How's it been, Mary? 1371 01:30:22,605 --> 01:30:24,230 Everything you hoped? 1372 01:30:26,438 --> 01:30:28,772 Silly girl. 1373 01:30:28,855 --> 01:30:33,146 If it was an hallucination, it was a very sustained one. 1374 01:30:35,897 --> 01:30:37,980 Suddenly, he was close. 1375 01:30:38,064 --> 01:30:40,647 I kept looking for your name. 1376 01:30:40,730 --> 01:30:43,355 I could never find it. 1377 01:30:43,438 --> 01:30:46,772 I've had some painful things happen to me, too. 1378 01:30:48,355 --> 01:30:49,939 We could've helped each other... 1379 01:30:51,772 --> 01:30:53,980 like I said. 1380 01:30:55,271 --> 01:30:56,605 All you could think was that I wanted 1381 01:30:56,688 --> 01:31:00,105 to catch you-- control you. 1382 01:31:01,605 --> 01:31:03,605 Where have you been all this time, Mary? 1383 01:31:06,480 --> 01:31:08,605 Where is the bright young girl? 1384 01:31:10,855 --> 01:31:12,980 I can see no sign of her. 1385 01:31:15,647 --> 01:31:17,814 No sign at all. 1386 01:31:39,064 --> 01:31:40,855 The very first thing I thought about 1387 01:31:40,939 --> 01:31:42,647 after he'd gone was funny. 1388 01:31:42,730 --> 01:31:44,271 It was I suddenly understood 1389 01:31:44,355 --> 01:31:48,105 why he was always there at Mr. Graham's parties. 1390 01:31:48,188 --> 01:31:50,730 I realized right then it must have been 1391 01:31:50,814 --> 01:31:54,772 because he knew something about Mr. Graham's past. 1392 01:31:54,855 --> 01:31:57,271 For a moment, I was quite excited 1393 01:31:57,355 --> 01:31:59,355 to have worked that out. 1394 01:32:05,188 --> 01:32:06,146 But then... 1395 01:32:11,688 --> 01:32:14,980 ...I started thinking the worst possible thoughts. 1396 01:32:23,188 --> 01:32:26,480 What might have been. 1397 01:32:44,480 --> 01:32:46,897 How stupid I was 1398 01:32:46,980 --> 01:32:49,146 to think I could take on that world 1399 01:32:49,230 --> 01:32:51,022 when I was so very young. 1400 01:32:58,064 --> 01:33:01,563 If only I'd been 10 years older 1401 01:33:01,647 --> 01:33:05,563 or been born a few years later 1402 01:33:05,647 --> 01:33:08,064 when things were different. 1403 01:33:10,980 --> 01:33:14,396 A young woman in that house... 1404 01:33:19,064 --> 01:33:22,105 ...shouldn't ever have happened. 1405 01:33:28,105 --> 01:33:30,480 And I've never been able to shake it off 1406 01:33:30,563 --> 01:33:32,605 all this time. 1407 01:33:36,563 --> 01:33:39,438 How idiotic is that? 1408 01:33:43,605 --> 01:33:46,855 And I was thinking too, 1409 01:33:46,939 --> 01:33:49,355 have I used what happened with Greville 1410 01:33:49,438 --> 01:33:52,355 as an excuse 1411 01:33:52,438 --> 01:33:54,855 my whole life, 1412 01:33:54,939 --> 01:33:56,980 for the loss of my talent? 1413 01:34:03,730 --> 01:34:06,522 I remembered his party trick 1414 01:34:06,605 --> 01:34:08,688 of seeing yourself as others see you. 1415 01:34:22,688 --> 01:34:26,230 And all the time 1416 01:34:26,313 --> 01:34:28,105 there was this sensation... 1417 01:34:30,230 --> 01:34:33,855 like the lights being turned down... 1418 01:34:38,730 --> 01:34:42,855 ...things closing in, shutting down. 1419 01:34:46,855 --> 01:34:52,105 Suddenly, I-- I found it difficult to breathe. 1420 01:34:52,188 --> 01:34:55,022 It's an absolutely horrible feeling, Joe. 1421 01:36:25,313 --> 01:36:29,814 It was disgraceful, Joe, my exhibition. 1422 01:36:29,897 --> 01:36:34,772 You know, crying for one's youth. 1423 01:36:36,772 --> 01:36:39,022 What a useless thing to do. 1424 01:36:49,146 --> 01:36:51,146 I ran away. 1425 01:36:54,022 --> 01:36:56,355 I ran away from the park. 1426 01:37:05,730 --> 01:37:07,605 But at least 1427 01:37:08,980 --> 01:37:14,772 that feeling... of things shutting down... 1428 01:37:16,939 --> 01:37:18,980 of it all ending... 1429 01:37:22,188 --> 01:37:24,146 ...I fought that. 1430 01:37:26,939 --> 01:37:28,355 He didn't manage that. 1431 01:37:31,563 --> 01:37:34,814 And then, somehow, 1432 01:37:36,480 --> 01:37:37,980 I managed to come here. 1433 01:37:40,355 --> 01:37:44,396 Something I've been thinking about for years, 1434 01:37:45,855 --> 01:37:48,522 to come back here, 1435 01:37:48,605 --> 01:37:51,064 confront the place. 1436 01:37:52,480 --> 01:37:56,814 Today, after the park... 1437 01:37:59,772 --> 01:38:02,271 ...I just walked straight here. 1438 01:38:04,563 --> 01:38:07,230 Seemed the obvious thing to do. 1439 01:38:11,355 --> 01:38:13,688 And you were kind enough to let me in. 1440 01:38:14,772 --> 01:38:16,105 You came to see if he was here? 1441 01:38:17,897 --> 01:38:21,064 To see if I could get rid of a ghost... 1442 01:38:22,396 --> 01:38:25,230 which isn't a ghost, of course. 1443 01:38:30,772 --> 01:38:32,188 Not a proper ghost. 1444 01:38:35,396 --> 01:38:37,064 And have you? 1445 01:38:42,313 --> 01:38:43,480 Have you? 1446 01:38:45,271 --> 01:38:47,939 I'm sorry, Joe, I have to go now. 1447 01:38:48,022 --> 01:38:50,022 Well, you have, haven't you? 1448 01:38:50,105 --> 01:38:51,313 Got rid of him? 1449 01:38:52,522 --> 01:38:55,146 - Yes. - Promise me. 1450 01:38:58,271 --> 01:39:03,022 Yes. Don't bother to show me out, Joe, I know the way. 1451 01:39:03,105 --> 01:39:04,647 I've just got to get out of this house. 1452 01:39:04,730 --> 01:39:07,022 Are you going to the park tomorrow? 1453 01:39:07,105 --> 01:39:09,271 Yeah, I might do. 1454 01:39:09,355 --> 01:39:12,064 - Can I come, too? 1455 01:39:12,146 --> 01:39:13,647 See where it happened? 1456 01:39:13,730 --> 01:39:15,730 See if he's still there, you mean? 1457 01:39:15,814 --> 01:39:20,688 - 11:00. Hope I turn up. - Which park? 1458 01:39:20,772 --> 01:39:23,438 But you ain't told me which park. 1459 01:39:26,271 --> 01:39:28,814 Kensington Gardens. 1460 01:39:36,480 --> 01:39:38,605 She'd given me the time, 1461 01:39:38,688 --> 01:39:40,605 and the park, 1462 01:39:40,688 --> 01:39:43,980 but not where she'd be. 1463 01:39:46,105 --> 01:39:48,022 I looked and looked for her. 1464 01:39:49,480 --> 01:39:52,271 I didn't find her. 1465 01:39:56,188 --> 01:39:58,688 And then, at last, 1466 01:39:58,772 --> 01:40:01,480 just when I was going, there she was. 1467 01:40:12,438 --> 01:40:13,688 Hello, Joe. 1468 01:40:14,897 --> 01:40:15,814 Here I am. 1469 01:40:17,146 --> 01:40:19,730 You didn't think I'd come. 1470 01:40:22,814 --> 01:40:26,230 We walked in silence. 1471 01:40:26,313 --> 01:40:28,522 She didn't seem to want to talk. 1472 01:40:30,438 --> 01:40:32,814 I don't know what she was thinking. 1473 01:40:45,855 --> 01:40:47,522 What, is this the spot? 1474 01:40:48,730 --> 01:40:50,730 Yeah, this is the spot. 1475 01:40:56,396 --> 01:40:58,730 I still didn't know what to say... 1476 01:41:01,271 --> 01:41:03,271 so I didn't say anything. 1477 01:41:17,980 --> 01:41:20,730 You can go now, Joe. 1478 01:41:22,105 --> 01:41:25,230 Thank you for staying. It's okay. 1479 01:41:26,605 --> 01:41:30,438 It'll be fine. I'll be fine. 1480 01:41:32,605 --> 01:41:35,855 - You helped me. - All right. 1481 01:41:35,939 --> 01:41:39,605 But I just-- I just need to be on my own now. 1482 01:41:43,271 --> 01:41:46,146 You can leave, Joe. It's okay. 1483 01:41:47,271 --> 01:41:49,105 I promise. 1484 01:41:57,480 --> 01:41:59,230 So I left her there... 1485 01:42:00,897 --> 01:42:02,438 and she did seem better. 1486 01:42:04,188 --> 01:42:06,271 I think. 1487 01:42:06,355 --> 01:42:08,688 She was sitting there looking quite elegant, 1488 01:42:08,772 --> 01:42:10,313 reading a book when I left her. 1489 01:42:20,897 --> 01:42:22,980 I keep thinking about her, 1490 01:42:24,230 --> 01:42:26,271 things I still want to ask. 1491 01:42:28,814 --> 01:42:30,855 I'll go back tomorrow to the park... 1492 01:42:32,688 --> 01:42:35,105 but I expect she won't be there. 1493 01:42:38,897 --> 01:42:42,146 There was something about her. 1494 01:42:54,022 --> 01:42:56,522 I liked that lady. 1495 01:42:56,605 --> 01:42:58,355 I hope she never sees him again. 102217

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