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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,276 During my lifetime, 2 00:00:53,300 --> 00:00:56,076 I have dedicated myself to this 3 00:00:56,100 --> 00:00:59,876 struggle of the African people. 4 00:00:59,900 --> 00:01:01,776 I have fought against 5 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,776 white domination, 6 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:04,877 and I have fought against 7 00:01:04,901 --> 00:01:07,476 black domination. 8 00:01:07,500 --> 00:01:09,476 I have cherished the ideals 9 00:01:09,500 --> 00:01:12,276 of a Democratic, free society 10 00:01:12,300 --> 00:01:15,276 in which all persons live 11 00:01:15,300 --> 00:01:18,076 in Harmony and with 12 00:01:18,100 --> 00:01:19,976 equal opportunity. 13 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,976 It is an ideal which I hope 14 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,676 to live for and achieve. 15 00:01:25,700 --> 00:01:29,776 But if needs be, it is an ideal 16 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,576 for which I am prepared to die. 17 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:46,876 You have been found guilty 18 00:01:46,900 --> 00:01:48,876 of sabotage and conspiracy 19 00:01:48,900 --> 00:01:50,676 against the state. 20 00:01:50,700 --> 00:01:51,777 In the case of accused 21 00:01:51,801 --> 00:01:54,676 number one, Nelson Mandela, 22 00:01:54,700 --> 00:01:56,476 the sentence is 23 00:01:56,500 --> 00:01:59,276 life imprisonment. 24 00:02:03,300 --> 00:02:07,876 Accused number, Walter Sisulu... 25 00:02:07,900 --> 00:02:10,876 Life imprisonment. 26 00:02:10,900 --> 00:02:11,900 Accused number three, 27 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,576 denis goldberg... 28 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,600 Life imprisonment. 29 00:02:16,700 --> 00:02:17,777 Go van mbeki... 30 00:02:17,801 --> 00:02:20,376 Life imprisonment. 31 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:21,377 Ahmed kathrada... 32 00:02:21,401 --> 00:02:23,276 Life imprisonment. 33 00:02:23,300 --> 00:02:24,377 Andrew mlangeni... 34 00:02:24,401 --> 00:02:26,176 Life imprisonment. 35 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:27,277 Raymond mhlaba... 36 00:02:27,301 --> 00:02:28,976 Life imprisonment. 37 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,976 Elias motsoaledi... 38 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,000 Life imprisonment. 39 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:58,776 Hang Mandela! 40 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,776 Hang Mandela! Hang Mandela! 41 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,476 Hang Mandela! 42 00:04:21,300 --> 00:04:23,176 No tribal tongues. 43 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:24,177 Speak English 44 00:04:24,201 --> 00:04:25,976 or afrikaans only. 45 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,976 Discuss only personal matters. 46 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:28,976 We have a list of the members 47 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:29,976 of your family. 48 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:30,977 If we hear a name that's not 49 00:04:31,001 --> 00:04:33,900 on the list, we will stop you. 50 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:10,227 Are you well? 51 00:05:10,251 --> 00:05:12,000 Have you been eating? 52 00:05:12,100 --> 00:05:13,976 I am fine, Nelson. 53 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:14,977 And you? 54 00:05:15,001 --> 00:05:17,776 Fit as a fiddle. 55 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,676 The children? 56 00:05:19,700 --> 00:05:20,820 Zenani is at boarding school 57 00:05:20,900 --> 00:05:22,676 in Swaziland. 58 00:05:22,700 --> 00:05:25,476 Be sure and tell her that I 59 00:05:25,500 --> 00:05:28,376 said she must get good grades. 60 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,276 I shall. 61 00:05:30,300 --> 00:05:31,377 How is zindzi? 62 00:05:31,401 --> 00:05:33,300 Stop. 63 00:05:36,100 --> 00:05:37,976 Who is zindzi? 64 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:39,000 It's a nickname, 65 00:05:39,100 --> 00:05:40,876 short for zindziswa, 66 00:05:40,900 --> 00:05:42,776 our younger daughter. 67 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,800 Proceed. 68 00:05:50,500 --> 00:05:54,276 The... extended family 69 00:05:54,300 --> 00:05:57,300 in the transkei are well. 70 00:05:58,300 --> 00:06:01,876 All the elders send their love. 71 00:06:01,900 --> 00:06:03,976 Contact them as often 72 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,676 as you can, and send them 73 00:06:06,700 --> 00:06:10,576 my love, too. 74 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,476 I, uh, almost forgot to 75 00:06:13,500 --> 00:06:15,376 tell you about your garden. 76 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,276 Oh, my garden. 77 00:06:17,300 --> 00:06:18,276 How is it? 78 00:06:18,300 --> 00:06:21,076 Thriving more than ever. 79 00:06:21,100 --> 00:06:23,976 New buds taking root every day. 80 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:25,876 Very good, very good. 81 00:06:25,900 --> 00:06:27,000 Stray dogs rampage 82 00:06:27,100 --> 00:06:28,976 through it daily, but after 83 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,676 a while, it takes root again 84 00:06:31,700 --> 00:06:33,800 and continues to grow. 85 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,576 Oh, winnie... 86 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:39,376 It is so good to see you. 87 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,400 So good. 88 00:06:55,700 --> 00:06:57,476 Any word from Tambo 89 00:06:57,500 --> 00:06:58,476 in Zambia? 90 00:06:58,500 --> 00:06:59,476 She got any news 91 00:06:59,500 --> 00:07:00,476 from denis goldberg? 92 00:07:00,500 --> 00:07:01,500 No. 93 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,376 What news of your garden? 94 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,276 The a.N.C. Is getting 95 00:07:06,300 --> 00:07:08,176 new recruits every day... 96 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,176 Young, strong ones. 97 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,976 And the stray dogs? 98 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,776 Government informers and 99 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,676 police raids are everywhere. 100 00:07:16,700 --> 00:07:18,676 Yes, yes. 101 00:07:18,700 --> 00:07:20,576 But they have not 102 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,800 stopped US, and they won't. 103 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:30,176 Elsewhere in 104 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:31,177 the township, vehicles were 105 00:07:31,201 --> 00:07:33,076 hijacked and burned. 106 00:07:33,100 --> 00:07:34,077 Impromptu barricades were 107 00:07:34,101 --> 00:07:35,876 aflame all over, thought most 108 00:07:35,900 --> 00:07:36,976 of the trouble seems to be 109 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,976 caused by the young. 110 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:40,676 We're having rocket-proof 111 00:07:40,700 --> 00:07:41,740 fencing built around every 112 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,727 strategic site in the country. 113 00:07:43,751 --> 00:07:45,476 But there's not guarantee that 114 00:07:45,500 --> 00:07:46,577 this will stop the a.N.C. 115 00:07:46,601 --> 00:07:48,500 Who's behind these attacks? 116 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,376 Mandela? 117 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:51,276 He's a resourceful man, 118 00:07:51,300 --> 00:07:52,276 Mr. President. 119 00:07:52,300 --> 00:07:53,276 We can't afford to ignore 120 00:07:53,300 --> 00:07:54,176 his capabilities. 121 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:55,200 We suspect he's still 122 00:07:55,300 --> 00:07:56,976 somehow getting messages out 123 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:58,000 to Oliver Tambo 124 00:07:58,100 --> 00:07:59,876 and the rest of the exiles. 125 00:07:59,900 --> 00:08:00,776 But it's more than that. 126 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:01,777 More than that? 127 00:08:01,801 --> 00:08:02,876 Yes. 128 00:08:02,900 --> 00:08:03,877 The people in the townships 129 00:08:03,901 --> 00:08:05,576 are calling robben island 130 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:06,676 "Mandela's university". 131 00:08:06,700 --> 00:08:07,677 What is this? 132 00:08:07,701 --> 00:08:10,376 The Mandela admiration society? 133 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:11,377 Now, stop your whining 134 00:08:11,401 --> 00:08:14,400 and do something about the man. 135 00:08:18,100 --> 00:08:20,976 Pack your things. 136 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,876 All of you. 137 00:08:23,900 --> 00:08:25,776 Pack our things? 138 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,800 Out. Out. 139 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,476 Except motsoaledi and mbeki. 140 00:08:34,500 --> 00:08:36,276 You've got 15 minutes. 141 00:08:36,300 --> 00:08:39,300 15 minutes? 142 00:09:05,300 --> 00:09:07,176 Dearest winnie, 143 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,976 I am writing you from 144 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:10,977 pollsmoor prison and 145 00:09:11,001 --> 00:09:12,700 out of sight of Cape Town. 146 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:14,676 We have been very quickly 147 00:09:14,700 --> 00:09:15,877 removed by the government 148 00:09:15,901 --> 00:09:18,576 from robben island for fear 149 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,476 that our political views 150 00:09:21,500 --> 00:09:22,477 would contaminate 151 00:09:22,501 --> 00:09:24,276 the majority 152 00:09:24,300 --> 00:09:26,176 of the prisoners there. 153 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:27,277 We have been moved to an 154 00:09:27,301 --> 00:09:30,976 isolation cell on the roof 155 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:32,077 of the pollsmoor prison, and 156 00:09:32,101 --> 00:09:34,876 here we will be completely 157 00:09:34,900 --> 00:09:36,876 isolated, away from the other 158 00:09:36,900 --> 00:09:38,676 1,000 inmates here. 159 00:09:38,700 --> 00:09:40,776 Winnie! Winnie! 160 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,576 Winnie! Winnie! 161 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,376 Viva a.N.C. Viva! 162 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,276 Viva! 163 00:09:49,300 --> 00:09:51,176 My husband and the others 164 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:52,200 are imprisoned because 165 00:09:52,300 --> 00:09:55,076 they demand justice. 166 00:09:55,100 --> 00:09:56,876 We who are on the outside 167 00:09:56,900 --> 00:09:58,776 express our solidarity 168 00:09:58,800 --> 00:09:59,800 with them. 169 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,476 They suffer for US, 170 00:10:04,500 --> 00:10:06,400 and we speak for them! 171 00:10:06,500 --> 00:10:08,376 Yeah! 172 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,476 We will not be silenced! 173 00:10:10,500 --> 00:10:12,276 Yeah! 174 00:10:12,300 --> 00:10:13,340 We will shout our defiance 175 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,176 to the world! 176 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:16,177 Yeah! 177 00:10:16,201 --> 00:10:18,876 And the world will 178 00:10:18,900 --> 00:10:19,976 stand with US! 179 00:10:21,001 --> 00:10:22,876 Viva a.N.C.! Viva! 180 00:10:22,900 --> 00:10:23,900 Viva! 181 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:48,777 I thought you'd like 182 00:10:48,801 --> 00:10:51,700 to read about your wife. 183 00:10:58,300 --> 00:11:02,400 So, how is zeni's baby? 184 00:11:05,100 --> 00:11:07,976 Sergeant Gregory? 185 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,776 I thought you were still 186 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:11,776 on the island. 187 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:12,676 I've been here for 188 00:11:12,700 --> 00:11:13,676 quite a while, actually. 189 00:11:13,700 --> 00:11:14,677 I suppose somebody upstairs 190 00:11:14,701 --> 00:11:16,476 thought it was best. 191 00:11:16,500 --> 00:11:17,576 And you remembered 192 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,376 my grandson. 193 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,176 Being a prison censor 194 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:23,200 does that to you. 195 00:11:23,300 --> 00:11:24,176 I've read so many of your 196 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:25,176 letters, I've started feeling 197 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:26,177 like family after a while. 198 00:11:26,201 --> 00:11:28,876 I'll always be grateful 199 00:11:28,900 --> 00:11:29,976 to you for showing me 200 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:30,977 how to get around 201 00:11:31,001 --> 00:11:32,776 the censorship rules. 202 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,676 Other warders were 203 00:11:34,700 --> 00:11:35,900 never so gracious. 204 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:39,576 Well, I didn't want 205 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,376 to bother you. 206 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:42,376 Just wanted to let you know 207 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:43,377 that I was around and... 208 00:11:43,401 --> 00:11:45,500 Say hello. 209 00:11:47,300 --> 00:11:50,976 Nelson Mandela is absolutely 210 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,876 indispensable for peace 211 00:11:53,900 --> 00:11:55,876 in Southern Africa! 212 00:11:55,900 --> 00:11:58,776 We... all of US... the world... 213 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,576 Need Nelson Mandela. 214 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:01,600 Do you agree? 215 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,276 Campaign with US 216 00:12:06,300 --> 00:12:08,276 for the release of 217 00:12:08,300 --> 00:12:10,300 Nelson Mandela and all of 218 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,976 the political leaders now! 219 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:18,800 Release Mandela! 220 00:12:18,900 --> 00:12:20,900 Release Mandela! 221 00:12:30,500 --> 00:12:32,176 Mr. President, 222 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,076 excuse me, sir, but there has 223 00:12:34,100 --> 00:12:35,176 been protest action 224 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:36,976 in capital cities all over 225 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:38,076 Europe and america. 226 00:12:38,100 --> 00:12:39,077 We can't go on ignoring... 227 00:12:39,101 --> 00:12:40,876 Communist agitators. 228 00:12:40,900 --> 00:12:41,776 Ignore them. 229 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:42,776 Mr. President, I can 230 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:43,676 increase the number of 231 00:12:43,700 --> 00:12:44,676 informants in the townships. 232 00:12:44,700 --> 00:12:45,600 All we have to do 233 00:12:45,700 --> 00:12:46,576 is find the ringleaders. 234 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:47,500 There are just so many of... 235 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:48,577 Don't tell me your problems. 236 00:12:48,601 --> 00:12:50,376 Just do what's necessary. 237 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:51,377 Yes, sir. 238 00:12:51,401 --> 00:12:53,376 Mr. President, there have 239 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,176 been suggestions that, uh... 240 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:56,300 Suggestions? About what? 241 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,076 It's thought that a possible 242 00:12:58,100 --> 00:12:59,100 course of action to solve 243 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:00,177 all these problems might be 244 00:13:00,201 --> 00:13:01,976 to talk to Mandela, sir. 245 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:02,876 Mandela? 246 00:13:02,900 --> 00:13:03,900 Yes, sir. 247 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:11,576 The raid, 248 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:12,576 coming only three weeks 249 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:13,576 after South Africa's 250 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:14,577 abortive attack 251 00:13:14,601 --> 00:13:16,276 inside Angola, marks the 252 00:13:16,300 --> 00:13:17,276 dangerous escalation of 253 00:13:17,300 --> 00:13:18,300 violence in the region. 254 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:19,376 It also puts pain 255 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:20,376 to Pretoria's latest 256 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:21,277 peace initiative for 257 00:13:21,301 --> 00:13:23,000 Southern Africa. 258 00:13:23,100 --> 00:13:24,076 Peter sharp, news at one, 259 00:13:24,100 --> 00:13:25,100 in Gaborone. 260 00:13:29,900 --> 00:13:31,676 Word has it that the 261 00:13:31,700 --> 00:13:32,677 government has attacked a.N.C. 262 00:13:32,701 --> 00:13:34,576 Targets in Maseru and Maputo. 263 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:35,576 Hundreds were killed. 264 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:36,577 Did we retaliate? 265 00:13:36,601 --> 00:13:38,376 Yes. 266 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,376 Our youth have blown up 267 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:41,400 a section of the koeberg 268 00:13:41,500 --> 00:13:43,276 nuclear station. 269 00:13:43,300 --> 00:13:44,276 Our people are angry. 270 00:13:44,300 --> 00:13:45,200 They want more. 271 00:13:45,300 --> 00:13:46,976 They want to see blood. 272 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:47,977 They want to see white people 273 00:13:48,001 --> 00:13:48,976 suffer the way we suffer. 274 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:49,976 The youths are no longer 275 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:51,076 willing to make a distinction 276 00:13:51,100 --> 00:13:52,077 between military whites 277 00:13:52,101 --> 00:13:53,776 and civilian whites. 278 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:54,700 Some of them have been heard 279 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:55,777 to say, "one settler, 280 00:13:55,801 --> 00:13:57,700 one bullet." 281 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:04,377 It's imperative 282 00:14:04,401 --> 00:14:06,176 that we talk to him, sir. 283 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:07,176 I don't want to hear 284 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:08,076 any more about the man. 285 00:14:08,100 --> 00:14:09,077 He is a leader of 286 00:14:09,101 --> 00:14:10,976 his peoples, Mr. President. 287 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:11,977 And, as you well know, 288 00:14:12,001 --> 00:14:12,976 he's the highest ranking member 289 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:13,976 of the a.N.C. Still on 290 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:14,977 South African soil. 291 00:14:15,001 --> 00:14:16,700 And need I remind you, in 292 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:18,900 prison, where he will remain? 293 00:14:23,500 --> 00:14:24,376 You have to help me 294 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:25,476 change his mind, f.W. 295 00:14:25,500 --> 00:14:26,476 I happen to support 296 00:14:26,500 --> 00:14:27,400 his position, kobie. 297 00:14:27,500 --> 00:14:28,477 How can we negotiate 298 00:14:28,501 --> 00:14:30,176 with terrorists? 299 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:31,177 You've got to break through 300 00:14:31,201 --> 00:14:33,076 this concept of terrorism. 301 00:14:33,100 --> 00:14:35,076 Kobie... I didn't know 302 00:14:35,100 --> 00:14:36,077 you were sitting around the 303 00:14:36,101 --> 00:14:37,927 same campfire with Mandela. 304 00:14:37,951 --> 00:14:39,776 Heh heh. I'm not the only 305 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:40,776 one who feels this way. 306 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:41,800 That may be, 307 00:14:41,900 --> 00:14:43,576 but why talk to me? 308 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:44,576 I'm no reformist. 309 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:45,577 Yes, but you have 310 00:14:45,601 --> 00:14:46,576 no agenda, f.W. 311 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:47,577 People on both sides 312 00:14:47,601 --> 00:14:48,577 will listen to you. 313 00:14:48,601 --> 00:14:50,477 At least give it some thought. 314 00:14:50,501 --> 00:14:52,176 Listen, the national party 315 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:53,360 is all that stands between US 316 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,276 and anarchy in this country. 317 00:14:55,300 --> 00:14:57,127 We can't afford another split 318 00:14:57,151 --> 00:14:58,176 in the party, kobie. 319 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,876 It would mean the end. 320 00:15:00,900 --> 00:15:01,776 You want a Messiah, 321 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:02,800 you'll have to knock on 322 00:15:02,900 --> 00:15:04,900 someone else's door. 323 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,576 Why all the concern 324 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,576 about these white civilians? 325 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:10,576 You know that the armed 326 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:11,476 struggle can't discriminate 327 00:15:11,500 --> 00:15:12,500 between military targets 328 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,276 and soft targets. 329 00:15:14,300 --> 00:15:15,376 Soft targets? 330 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,276 You mean women and children. 331 00:15:17,300 --> 00:15:18,277 Black women and children 332 00:15:18,301 --> 00:15:19,976 are being killed by 333 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:21,076 the government every day. 334 00:15:21,100 --> 00:15:22,976 Who weeps for US? 335 00:15:24,900 --> 00:15:26,776 Madiba! 336 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,576 What is it? 337 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:31,500 It's certainly not a good 338 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:32,476 time for this to happen 339 00:15:32,500 --> 00:15:33,476 to Mandela. 340 00:15:33,500 --> 00:15:34,376 Oh, nonsense. 341 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:35,476 It's of no consequence. 342 00:15:35,500 --> 00:15:37,376 An enlarged prostate gland. 343 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,376 Gus gecelter did the diagnosis. 344 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,277 He's a jewboy, but they tell me 345 00:15:42,301 --> 00:15:43,976 not a bad urologist. 346 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,076 He says he has to remove 347 00:15:45,100 --> 00:15:46,177 part of the gland straightaway. 348 00:15:46,201 --> 00:15:47,800 Yes, but there's this 349 00:15:47,900 --> 00:15:48,877 trouble with the townships. 350 00:15:48,901 --> 00:15:50,676 The a.N.C. Has never been 351 00:15:50,700 --> 00:15:51,677 so active. 352 00:15:51,701 --> 00:15:52,777 International sanctions 353 00:15:52,801 --> 00:15:54,576 are spreading like veldfire. 354 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:55,577 These are merely 355 00:15:55,601 --> 00:15:56,577 inconveniences. 356 00:15:56,601 --> 00:15:58,476 They cannot last. 357 00:15:58,500 --> 00:15:59,500 We must be steadfast, 358 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,276 gentlemen. 359 00:16:01,300 --> 00:16:03,176 And now Mr. Mandela 360 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:04,300 is in hospital. 361 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,276 He is older than both of US, 362 00:16:06,300 --> 00:16:07,277 Mr. President. 363 00:16:07,301 --> 00:16:08,976 If he should die, he would... 364 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:09,877 It would be a Thorn 365 00:16:09,901 --> 00:16:10,976 plucked from our flesh. 366 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:12,776 He would be a martyr. 367 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:13,877 His name would be a rallying 368 00:16:13,901 --> 00:16:15,776 cry for our enemies here 369 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:16,676 and around the world. 370 00:16:16,700 --> 00:16:17,677 You attach too much 371 00:16:17,701 --> 00:16:20,576 importance to the man. 372 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:24,376 Mr. President... 373 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:25,377 Now is the time to sit down 374 00:16:25,401 --> 00:16:27,176 with Mandela. 375 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,076 Listen! I am the president 376 00:16:30,100 --> 00:16:31,177 of this nation. 377 00:16:31,201 --> 00:16:32,876 And Mandela... 378 00:16:32,900 --> 00:16:33,900 He is a terrorist. 379 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:35,876 Ah, he might be educated. 380 00:16:35,900 --> 00:16:37,676 He might be a tribal 381 00:16:37,700 --> 00:16:38,677 princeling. 382 00:16:38,701 --> 00:16:39,777 But he has been found guilty 383 00:16:39,801 --> 00:16:41,600 of treason against the state. 384 00:16:41,700 --> 00:16:43,576 And you say I must sit down 385 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,376 and exchange pleasantries 386 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,276 with this man? 387 00:16:47,300 --> 00:16:48,376 The presidency need not 388 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,377 become directly involved, sir. 389 00:16:50,401 --> 00:16:52,076 The entire matter can be 390 00:16:52,100 --> 00:16:54,100 handled quietly and discreetly. 391 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,900 Well, tell me how. 392 00:17:12,300 --> 00:17:14,400 Mr. Mandela? 393 00:17:19,900 --> 00:17:21,776 Mr. Coetsee? 394 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:23,776 No, no, no, please don't. 395 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:24,777 Don't bother, 396 00:17:24,801 --> 00:17:26,576 not on my account. 397 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,476 I am... 398 00:17:29,500 --> 00:17:31,376 Very seldom rendered 399 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,276 speechless, but... 400 00:17:34,300 --> 00:17:36,376 I must confess I hardly 401 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,076 expected a visit 402 00:17:38,100 --> 00:17:40,176 from the minister of justice. 403 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,876 To what do I owe the honor, 404 00:17:43,900 --> 00:17:44,876 minister coetsee? 405 00:17:44,900 --> 00:17:45,900 Oh, well, it's not really 406 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,776 a visit, you know. 407 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:48,700 It's just that I was 408 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,576 in the vicinity. 409 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:54,376 You were... 410 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,300 In the vicinity? 411 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:57,477 A friend of mine 412 00:17:57,501 --> 00:17:59,376 down the corridor. 413 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,276 I trust you are recovering. 414 00:18:01,300 --> 00:18:03,976 Oh. 415 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,000 I trust so, too. 416 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:07,977 Well, if there's anything 417 00:18:08,001 --> 00:18:10,000 you need... 418 00:18:11,700 --> 00:18:13,676 My needs are few, 419 00:18:13,700 --> 00:18:15,476 minister coetsee, 420 00:18:15,500 --> 00:18:17,576 and simple. 421 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:21,276 But chief among them is 422 00:18:21,300 --> 00:18:24,400 the need for more information. 423 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:28,977 Yeah, well, that's 424 00:18:29,001 --> 00:18:30,876 a difficult one, you know? 425 00:18:30,900 --> 00:18:33,876 I understand. 426 00:18:33,900 --> 00:18:37,576 Yes, I think you do. 427 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:38,676 Excuse me, Mr. Mandela. 428 00:18:38,700 --> 00:18:40,500 I must go. 429 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,500 Your friend calls? 430 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,400 We'll meet again. 431 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:01,676 But, Madiba, where are 432 00:19:01,700 --> 00:19:03,476 they taking you? 433 00:19:03,500 --> 00:19:04,476 They're giving me a little 434 00:19:04,500 --> 00:19:05,476 peace from you fellows... 435 00:19:05,500 --> 00:19:06,477 My own cell. 436 00:19:06,501 --> 00:19:08,276 They're planning to isolate 437 00:19:08,300 --> 00:19:09,277 you from your comrades. 438 00:19:09,301 --> 00:19:11,276 Madiba, what are they up to? 439 00:19:11,300 --> 00:19:13,076 They have a plan. 440 00:19:13,100 --> 00:19:14,076 They must have a plan. 441 00:19:14,100 --> 00:19:15,100 They never do anything 442 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:16,876 without a reason. 443 00:19:16,900 --> 00:19:18,876 If they have a plan, 444 00:19:18,900 --> 00:19:19,877 do you think they would 445 00:19:19,901 --> 00:19:21,676 confide in me? 446 00:19:21,700 --> 00:19:22,700 All they told me is that 447 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,576 I was being moved. 448 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,676 They gave you no hint? 449 00:19:26,700 --> 00:19:28,376 No clue, Madiba? 450 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:29,400 None. 451 00:19:29,500 --> 00:19:32,276 And you have no suspicion? 452 00:19:32,300 --> 00:19:34,176 If they hope that by 453 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:35,177 isolating me, they will 454 00:19:35,201 --> 00:19:36,976 further their ambitions, 455 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,000 then they are mistaken. 456 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:53,376 I've been ordered to 457 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:54,277 Cape Town on government 458 00:19:54,301 --> 00:19:56,176 business. 459 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:57,200 Would you like to make 460 00:19:57,300 --> 00:20:00,076 the trip with me? 461 00:20:00,100 --> 00:20:01,077 I don't think that's 462 00:20:01,101 --> 00:20:02,976 a very funny joke, sergeant. 463 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:04,876 I'm not joking. 464 00:20:04,900 --> 00:20:09,000 Orders... from on high. 465 00:20:48,100 --> 00:20:51,076 So... what do you think? 466 00:20:51,100 --> 00:20:53,776 I had forgotten everything 467 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,800 but the details. 468 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,076 Would you like a cool drink? 469 00:21:12,100 --> 00:21:12,976 Something to eat maybe? 470 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,000 Do you think my body 471 00:21:14,100 --> 00:21:15,776 would stand it, sergeant? 472 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,800 I'll be back in a minute. 473 00:21:58,200 --> 00:21:59,976 Here you go. 474 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,000 Haven't had one of those 475 00:22:01,100 --> 00:22:03,776 in a long time, eh? 476 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,776 Yes. 477 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,676 Long time. 478 00:22:07,700 --> 00:22:10,600 Long time. 479 00:22:12,500 --> 00:22:13,476 This is not 480 00:22:13,500 --> 00:22:14,376 the visiting room. 481 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:15,376 What is going on? 482 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:16,276 It's all right, 483 00:22:16,300 --> 00:22:17,200 Mrs. Mandela. 484 00:22:17,300 --> 00:22:20,076 Please sit down. 485 00:22:20,100 --> 00:22:22,100 Please? 486 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:29,777 Mr. Mandela, I'll call you 487 00:22:29,801 --> 00:22:31,676 when your time is up. 488 00:22:31,700 --> 00:22:32,677 Are you leaving US alone, 489 00:22:32,701 --> 00:22:34,476 sergeant? 490 00:22:34,500 --> 00:22:36,600 Government orders. 491 00:22:50,900 --> 00:22:53,576 Ohh. 492 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,500 I can't believe it. 493 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,700 It's been 20 years. 494 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,176 20 years since I've held you 495 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,176 like this. 496 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,100 What is this game 497 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,076 they play now? 498 00:23:09,100 --> 00:23:10,976 Where is the bug? 499 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,976 Nothing we could say 500 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,876 would surprise them. 501 00:23:14,900 --> 00:23:16,676 For years, they have known 502 00:23:16,700 --> 00:23:18,776 full well what we think. 503 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,700 Yes. 504 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,176 They took me on... 505 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,176 I suppose it was a picnic... 506 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:30,976 In Cape Town. 507 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,876 A what? 508 00:23:33,900 --> 00:23:35,776 A ride into town. 509 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,676 I think they want me to get 510 00:23:38,700 --> 00:23:39,776 acquainted with life 511 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,700 out there. 512 00:23:48,300 --> 00:23:49,376 Oh, I think they want 513 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,400 to seduce you. 514 00:23:53,300 --> 00:23:55,076 It's working. 515 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,676 I believe they are signaling 516 00:24:02,700 --> 00:24:04,576 that they are ready to talk. 517 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,476 Oh, Madiba. 518 00:24:08,500 --> 00:24:10,476 Don't trust them. 519 00:24:10,500 --> 00:24:15,176 It is a dangerous path. 520 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,300 But I must tread it. 521 00:24:39,300 --> 00:24:41,176 Hello, Mrs. Gregory. 522 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:42,976 I am Nelson Mandela. 523 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:43,976 Thank you for inviting me 524 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,000 into your home. 525 00:24:45,100 --> 00:24:46,776 Won't you... Come in, 526 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,676 Mr. Mandela? 527 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:52,677 You have such a wicked 528 00:24:52,701 --> 00:24:54,476 sense of humor, Mr. Mandela. 529 00:24:54,500 --> 00:24:55,577 And you cook an excellent 530 00:24:55,601 --> 00:24:57,276 meal, Mrs. Gregory. 531 00:24:57,300 --> 00:24:58,300 Thank you. 532 00:24:58,400 --> 00:24:59,376 No wonder your husband 533 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:00,377 reports for work 534 00:25:00,401 --> 00:25:03,076 in such a good mood. 535 00:25:04,101 --> 00:25:05,277 Can I talk now? 536 00:25:05,301 --> 00:25:06,876 Hey. 537 00:25:06,900 --> 00:25:09,776 What is it, young man? 538 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:10,777 Is it really true 539 00:25:10,801 --> 00:25:11,877 you're a prince? 540 00:25:11,901 --> 00:25:14,576 Yes, it is true. 541 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:15,576 I'll bet you had lots of 542 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:16,476 servants waiting on you 543 00:25:16,500 --> 00:25:17,477 hand and foot. 544 00:25:17,501 --> 00:25:18,577 Well, it wasn't quite 545 00:25:18,601 --> 00:25:20,476 that way for me. 546 00:25:20,500 --> 00:25:21,477 My father makes me 547 00:25:21,501 --> 00:25:23,276 do chores... When I want to go 548 00:25:23,300 --> 00:25:24,276 out and play with my friends. 549 00:25:24,300 --> 00:25:25,276 Oh, my goodness. 550 00:25:25,300 --> 00:25:26,277 Well, we all have 551 00:25:26,301 --> 00:25:28,127 our chores around the house. 552 00:25:28,151 --> 00:25:29,176 Even parents. 553 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,976 Even princes. 554 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,776 You had to do chores? 555 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:33,800 Of course. 556 00:25:33,900 --> 00:25:36,676 When I was a little boy... 557 00:25:36,700 --> 00:25:39,676 Just about your age... 558 00:25:39,700 --> 00:25:41,576 My mother sent me to the home 559 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,276 of my uncle, who was the king. 560 00:25:44,300 --> 00:25:46,276 My father had just died, 561 00:25:46,300 --> 00:25:47,477 and his brother the king 562 00:25:47,501 --> 00:25:49,076 followed the custom 563 00:25:49,100 --> 00:25:51,027 of our people and took me in. 564 00:25:51,051 --> 00:25:53,000 Once, in the house of the king, 565 00:25:53,100 --> 00:25:54,977 I had to go through rigorous 566 00:25:55,001 --> 00:25:56,776 training to one day become 567 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,676 an adviser to my uncle, 568 00:25:58,700 --> 00:25:59,700 and later to my cousin, 569 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,576 who would one day himself 570 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:03,476 become king. 571 00:26:03,500 --> 00:26:04,476 You must've felt like the 572 00:26:04,500 --> 00:26:05,477 luckiest boy in the whole 573 00:26:05,501 --> 00:26:06,477 wide world. 574 00:26:06,501 --> 00:26:08,376 Yes. Going to school, 575 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,176 being taught the ways 576 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,076 of the court, yes. 577 00:26:12,100 --> 00:26:14,276 But my other duty was a big job 578 00:26:14,300 --> 00:26:16,200 for a little person. 579 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,776 I had to iron the pants of 580 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:26,476 my uncle for each state visit 581 00:26:26,500 --> 00:26:28,376 and ceremonial occasion. 582 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,476 Those pants had to be perfectly 583 00:26:31,500 --> 00:26:33,377 ironed and pressed each time. 584 00:26:33,401 --> 00:26:37,076 If they were not, I had to go 585 00:26:37,100 --> 00:26:40,076 over and over and over them 586 00:26:40,100 --> 00:26:41,876 until they were right. 587 00:26:41,900 --> 00:26:42,776 But you were the prince. 588 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:43,876 Couldn't you get the servant 589 00:26:43,900 --> 00:26:44,877 to do that for you? 590 00:26:44,901 --> 00:26:47,576 No. 591 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,576 Because ironing my uncle's 592 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,476 pants was my duty, 593 00:26:51,500 --> 00:26:53,376 and I stuck to it. 594 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:54,577 That is what one does when 595 00:26:54,601 --> 00:26:56,376 one is given a responsibility 596 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,176 and a trust. 597 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,976 Ironing those pants taught me 598 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,876 to be patient. 599 00:27:03,900 --> 00:27:06,976 And it taught me to focus 600 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,676 myself on a single task. 601 00:27:09,700 --> 00:27:11,576 So, what do you think 602 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:12,700 about that? 603 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,576 Well... 604 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,276 I think I understand. 605 00:27:19,300 --> 00:27:21,300 Good. 606 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,976 Dear minister coetsee, 607 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,900 there can be no doubt 608 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,876 in your mind that the 609 00:27:30,900 --> 00:27:32,676 situation in our country 610 00:27:32,700 --> 00:27:35,576 has become untenable. 611 00:27:36,700 --> 00:27:39,376 Strikes, agitation 612 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:40,576 in the streets, 613 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,376 and armed resistance 614 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,176 have not abated despite your 615 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:46,227 best efforts. 616 00:27:46,251 --> 00:27:47,976 The black people of our 617 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,900 country are harboring 618 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,076 a great grievance. 619 00:27:51,100 --> 00:27:53,776 As an executive member 620 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,676 of the a.N.C., and as 621 00:27:55,700 --> 00:27:56,776 a patriot who loves 622 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,576 his country, I implore 623 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,476 the government to sit down 624 00:28:01,500 --> 00:28:03,576 with members of our movement 625 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,176 and face-to-face discuss ways 626 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,176 in which we can bring an end 627 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,076 to the terrible torment and 628 00:28:11,100 --> 00:28:12,976 suffering in South Africa. 629 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:13,977 Just give this back 630 00:28:14,001 --> 00:28:15,001 to coetsee. 631 00:28:15,100 --> 00:28:17,776 So, tell me... do you think 632 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,676 Mandela grows desperate? 633 00:28:19,700 --> 00:28:21,676 I think Mandela... 634 00:28:21,700 --> 00:28:23,476 Grows, Mr. President. 635 00:28:23,500 --> 00:28:25,376 Hmm! And I say 636 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,400 Mandela grows old. 637 00:28:27,500 --> 00:28:29,376 He senses god beckoning. 638 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,176 He's running out of time, 639 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,177 and that suits US very well 640 00:28:32,201 --> 00:28:33,400 indeed. 641 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,676 Mr. Mandela. 642 00:28:44,700 --> 00:28:45,677 It's a pleasure. 643 00:28:45,701 --> 00:28:47,476 Johann kykendal, 644 00:28:47,500 --> 00:28:49,500 aide to the president. 645 00:28:50,500 --> 00:28:53,276 Step inside. 646 00:28:53,300 --> 00:28:56,076 The point is, Mr. Kykendal, 647 00:28:56,100 --> 00:28:57,176 the time has come 648 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,976 for negotiations. 649 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,876 What is it that is stopping 650 00:29:00,900 --> 00:29:01,976 your government from 651 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,676 sitting down and talking to US? 652 00:29:05,700 --> 00:29:07,576 But surely, Mr. Mandela, 653 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:08,640 that is what we are doing, 654 00:29:08,700 --> 00:29:10,476 isn't it? 655 00:29:10,500 --> 00:29:12,476 You are a civil servant, 656 00:29:12,500 --> 00:29:15,276 Mr. Kykendal, no more. 657 00:29:15,300 --> 00:29:17,176 And I am not authorized 658 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,076 to negotiate for the a.N.C. 659 00:29:20,100 --> 00:29:22,076 Your government must go to 660 00:29:22,100 --> 00:29:23,976 Lusaka, or they will have to 661 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,976 invite Lusaka here. 662 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,676 P.W. Botha going to Lusaka? 663 00:29:28,700 --> 00:29:29,700 Speaking to Tambo? 664 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:30,877 That's impossible... 665 00:29:30,901 --> 00:29:34,676 And you know it. 666 00:29:34,700 --> 00:29:37,376 I do not think 667 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,376 you appreciate the dynamics 668 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,300 of this meeting, Mr. Kykendal. 669 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,076 I am an executive member 670 00:29:47,100 --> 00:29:49,776 of the a.N.C., and you are 671 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:50,876 a conduit. 672 00:29:50,900 --> 00:29:52,676 It is not your place to 673 00:29:52,700 --> 00:29:55,676 tell me what is possible 674 00:29:55,700 --> 00:29:57,476 or not possible. 675 00:29:57,500 --> 00:29:58,477 Mr. Mandela, I... 676 00:29:58,501 --> 00:29:59,576 You... 677 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,276 Will understand clearly 678 00:30:02,300 --> 00:30:05,176 three things and communicate 679 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:06,176 them to your masters. 680 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,176 I don't think you 681 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:08,177 appreciate where I'm... 682 00:30:08,201 --> 00:30:10,100 One... 683 00:30:12,900 --> 00:30:16,676 I am not the head of 684 00:30:16,700 --> 00:30:19,776 the a.N.C., nor am I, 685 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,476 in the current instance, 686 00:30:21,500 --> 00:30:22,477 its emissary. 687 00:30:22,501 --> 00:30:24,476 I do what I do knowing 688 00:30:24,500 --> 00:30:26,376 full well the risks I run 689 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,276 of being repudiated. 690 00:30:28,300 --> 00:30:31,976 Two... we can only continue 691 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,876 this dialogue if your 692 00:30:33,900 --> 00:30:34,976 government demonstrates 693 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,927 its willingness to take a few 694 00:30:36,951 --> 00:30:38,876 risks of its own. 695 00:30:38,900 --> 00:30:40,676 The road to peace is 696 00:30:40,700 --> 00:30:42,576 precipitous, and if we are to 697 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,576 travel it together, we must 698 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,376 all share the risks involved. 699 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,376 Three... I believe that this is 700 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,276 your government's last chance 701 00:30:52,300 --> 00:30:54,076 for a peaceful settlement 702 00:30:54,100 --> 00:30:57,076 before... the armed struggle 703 00:30:57,100 --> 00:31:00,876 reaches a point of no return. 704 00:31:00,900 --> 00:31:04,576 Ignore it, and I believe 705 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,576 our country will be laid waste 706 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,576 in a war of attrition 707 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,276 from which no Victor 708 00:31:11,300 --> 00:31:12,376 will emerge. 709 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,176 Mr. Mandela, 710 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,200 I can assure you that... 711 00:31:19,100 --> 00:31:21,200 Tell them. 712 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,476 Madiba. 713 00:31:30,500 --> 00:31:32,500 Madiba. 714 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,176 Comrades, I wanted you 715 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,976 to know that my isolation has 716 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,976 afforded me a certain clarity. 717 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:46,977 I'm glad that you derived 718 00:31:47,001 --> 00:31:48,676 some benefit from it, 719 00:31:48,700 --> 00:31:50,676 because we haven't. 720 00:31:50,700 --> 00:31:51,727 Certain developments 721 00:31:51,751 --> 00:31:52,776 have taken place 722 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,476 that I must report to you. 723 00:31:55,500 --> 00:31:56,576 From your isolation cell? 724 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,376 I wasn't always isolated. 725 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:00,376 I knew it. 726 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,076 Who did you see? Botha? 727 00:32:03,100 --> 00:32:04,976 Coetsee. 728 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,000 Coetsee. 729 00:32:07,100 --> 00:32:08,976 And a number of others. 730 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:09,977 You have not informed Tambo 731 00:32:10,001 --> 00:32:11,776 and the central committee? 732 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,676 You've gone too far, Nelson. 733 00:32:13,700 --> 00:32:14,576 These meetings of yours 734 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:15,577 with this government have 735 00:32:15,601 --> 00:32:16,677 compromised the a.N.C. 736 00:32:16,701 --> 00:32:19,376 It was an opportunity, 737 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:20,377 and I grasped it. 738 00:32:20,401 --> 00:32:22,376 Yes, but whose opportunity... 739 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,176 Yours or the regime's? 740 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,127 Nelson, do you know what they 741 00:32:27,151 --> 00:32:28,976 could do with this? 742 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,076 Every meeting you've held, 743 00:32:30,100 --> 00:32:31,077 every contact could be turned 744 00:32:31,101 --> 00:32:32,800 to their own benefit. 745 00:32:32,900 --> 00:32:33,776 Imagine the headlines... 746 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:34,800 "Mandela in talks 747 00:32:34,900 --> 00:32:35,777 with government." 748 00:32:35,801 --> 00:32:37,676 It would be a propaganda coup, 749 00:32:37,700 --> 00:32:39,500 and at the very most, it would 750 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,476 split US down the middle. 751 00:32:41,500 --> 00:32:43,376 I am not a child, Andrew. 752 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:44,560 These thoughts have obviously 753 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:45,477 occurred to me. 754 00:32:45,501 --> 00:32:47,276 Ah, Madiba, you're treading 755 00:32:47,300 --> 00:32:48,300 on dangerous ground here. 756 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,176 Since when has the a.N.C. 757 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,976 Flinched from danger? 758 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,976 I speak with the regime 759 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,776 to enhance the aims 760 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:57,900 of our organization. 761 00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,676 Yeah, but in secret... 762 00:32:59,700 --> 00:33:00,776 That's the problem, Madiba. 763 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,676 Shh, shh. 764 00:33:15,100 --> 00:33:17,976 I risk my reputation 765 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,876 on my strong belief that 766 00:33:19,900 --> 00:33:21,876 the regime speaks from 767 00:33:21,900 --> 00:33:23,776 a position of weakness. 768 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,776 We have got them on the ropes. 769 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,476 Now, do we fight for 770 00:33:29,500 --> 00:33:31,300 another decade? 771 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:32,477 Do we spill the blood of 772 00:33:32,501 --> 00:33:35,176 thousands more of our children 773 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:36,277 to achieve what can easily be 774 00:33:36,301 --> 00:33:41,100 accomplished across a table? 775 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,576 I'll be letting Tambo know 776 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,576 what I have done, and I will 777 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,476 seek his endorsement. 778 00:33:53,500 --> 00:33:55,276 But until then, I want you 779 00:33:55,300 --> 00:33:57,276 to know that I intend to 780 00:33:57,300 --> 00:34:00,076 continue on this path. 781 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,700 With another 782 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:11,676 funeral due to take place 783 00:34:11,700 --> 00:34:12,677 in a neighboring township 784 00:34:12,701 --> 00:34:14,576 tomorrow, the violence is not 785 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:15,600 expected to end. 786 00:34:15,700 --> 00:34:17,476 Cedric Scott, I.T.N., 787 00:34:17,500 --> 00:34:19,376 Johannesburg. 788 00:34:32,700 --> 00:34:33,676 What does the world 789 00:34:33,700 --> 00:34:34,576 want of me? 790 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:35,676 Who is it who abolished 791 00:34:35,700 --> 00:34:36,700 petty apartheid? 792 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,376 P.W. Botha, that's who. 793 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:40,376 Who drove the Cubans back 794 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:41,400 in Angola? 795 00:34:41,500 --> 00:34:42,476 My army did. 796 00:34:42,500 --> 00:34:43,400 Who fought the communists 797 00:34:43,500 --> 00:34:45,276 in Mozambique? I did. 798 00:34:45,300 --> 00:34:46,277 And what recognition 799 00:34:46,301 --> 00:34:49,076 does the west give me? 800 00:34:49,100 --> 00:34:50,876 They nag, they whinge, 801 00:34:50,900 --> 00:34:51,877 they send me diplomatic 802 00:34:51,901 --> 00:34:52,976 communiques. 803 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,776 "Negotiate," they say. 804 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:55,776 And who must I negotiate with? 805 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:56,776 A bunch of blacks running amok 806 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:57,777 in the townships? 807 00:34:57,801 --> 00:34:59,576 A bunch of terrorists sitting 808 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:00,577 in jail where they belong? 809 00:35:00,601 --> 00:35:02,500 Look at this. 810 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,376 France, Germany, Japan... 811 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,276 They're all against me. 812 00:35:08,300 --> 00:35:10,276 I'm telling you, gentlemen... 813 00:35:10,300 --> 00:35:11,200 If it wasn't for Margaret 814 00:35:11,300 --> 00:35:13,076 Thatcher and Ronald Reagan, 815 00:35:13,100 --> 00:35:14,176 South Africa would have 816 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:15,976 no friends in the world at all. 817 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,876 Mr. President, if it is 818 00:35:18,900 --> 00:35:20,800 a bold stroke the world wants, 819 00:35:20,900 --> 00:35:21,877 then you may be holding 820 00:35:21,901 --> 00:35:23,500 the solution to your problems 821 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,700 in your hands. 822 00:35:28,300 --> 00:35:29,400 It is my intention to 823 00:35:29,500 --> 00:35:31,176 release Nelson Mandela 824 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,076 from prison... If he will 825 00:35:33,100 --> 00:35:34,276 promise unconditionally 826 00:35:34,300 --> 00:35:35,976 to reject violence 827 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,100 as a political instrument. 828 00:35:38,900 --> 00:35:39,077 It is therefore not 829 00:35:39,101 --> 00:35:40,776 the South African government 830 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:41,777 which stands in the way 831 00:35:41,801 --> 00:35:43,676 of Mandela's release. 832 00:35:43,700 --> 00:35:46,576 It is Mr. Mandela himself. 833 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:47,677 Mr. Mandela, we are 834 00:35:47,701 --> 00:35:49,376 offering to set you free. 835 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:50,400 You can go home and be 836 00:35:50,500 --> 00:35:51,377 with your family. 837 00:35:51,401 --> 00:35:52,477 UN-ban the a.N.C. 838 00:35:52,501 --> 00:35:54,276 Begin direct negotiations 839 00:35:54,300 --> 00:35:56,100 with our leader Oliver Tambo 840 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:57,076 immediately. 841 00:35:57,100 --> 00:35:57,200 Renounce the violence 842 00:35:57,300 --> 00:35:58,277 and you can go home. 843 00:35:58,301 --> 00:36:00,077 That is what we can offer you. 844 00:36:00,101 --> 00:36:01,976 Your president must see 845 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,776 our point of view. 846 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:04,800 He doesn't have 847 00:36:04,900 --> 00:36:05,876 to do anything. 848 00:36:05,900 --> 00:36:06,800 He is the president, and you 849 00:36:06,900 --> 00:36:08,800 have got his final offer. 850 00:36:12,700 --> 00:36:14,476 In that case, 851 00:36:14,500 --> 00:36:16,476 advise president both a that 852 00:36:16,500 --> 00:36:20,300 he will have my answer soon. 853 00:36:23,100 --> 00:36:24,876 You see what 854 00:36:24,900 --> 00:36:25,877 he's doing? 855 00:36:25,901 --> 00:36:27,976 Mandela is making US wait. 856 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,776 By the way, thank you for 857 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:30,776 keeping me informed. 858 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:31,777 He'll agree to terms, 859 00:36:31,801 --> 00:36:33,576 I think. 860 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,576 He's a logical man. 861 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,576 Look what he's done... 862 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,276 He's stolen the spotlight 863 00:36:39,300 --> 00:36:40,277 from the government. 864 00:36:40,301 --> 00:36:41,377 It's pointing directly at him 865 00:36:41,401 --> 00:36:43,076 now, and the whole world 866 00:36:43,100 --> 00:36:45,100 is waiting for his answer. 867 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:46,976 That's not bad for a prisoner 868 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:47,977 who's been cut off 869 00:36:48,001 --> 00:36:49,976 from the world for 22 years. 870 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:52,777 Winnie Mandela 871 00:36:52,801 --> 00:36:54,676 is in internal exile, 872 00:36:54,700 --> 00:36:56,676 banned as a non-person, 873 00:36:56,700 --> 00:36:58,576 forbidden to speak publicly. 874 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,476 She should be standing here 875 00:37:00,500 --> 00:37:01,400 before you. 876 00:37:01,500 --> 00:37:02,376 Viva Winnie Mandela! 877 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:03,377 Viva! 878 00:37:03,401 --> 00:37:06,176 Viva! 879 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,276 But since she cannot, 880 00:37:07,300 --> 00:37:09,076 it falls on me to read 881 00:37:09,100 --> 00:37:10,100 my father's reply 882 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:11,927 to president botha's offer 883 00:37:11,951 --> 00:37:13,876 of freedom from prison. 884 00:37:13,900 --> 00:37:14,976 "I am a member of 885 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,877 the African national congress." 886 00:37:16,901 --> 00:37:18,576 Viva a.N.C.! Viva! 887 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,476 Viva! 888 00:37:20,500 --> 00:37:22,400 "I have always been a member 889 00:37:22,500 --> 00:37:23,477 of the African national 890 00:37:23,501 --> 00:37:25,376 congress, and I will remain 891 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:26,377 a member of the African 892 00:37:26,401 --> 00:37:28,176 national congress 893 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,076 until the day I die. 894 00:37:30,100 --> 00:37:31,200 I Cherish my own freedom 895 00:37:31,300 --> 00:37:33,976 dearly, but I care even more 896 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,876 for your freedom. 897 00:37:35,900 --> 00:37:36,877 Too many have died 898 00:37:36,901 --> 00:37:38,700 since I went to prison. 899 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:39,877 Too many have suffered 900 00:37:39,901 --> 00:37:41,676 for the love of freedom. 901 00:37:41,700 --> 00:37:42,677 I am not less loving 902 00:37:42,701 --> 00:37:44,676 than you are, but I cannot 903 00:37:44,700 --> 00:37:47,376 sell my birthright, nor am I 904 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:48,476 prepared to sell the birthright 905 00:37:48,500 --> 00:37:50,476 of my people to be free. 906 00:37:50,500 --> 00:37:52,176 What freedom am I being 907 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,076 offered, while the organization 908 00:37:54,100 --> 00:37:56,976 of the people remains banned? 909 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:57,976 What freedom am I being 910 00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:58,977 offered to live my life 911 00:37:59,001 --> 00:38:01,027 as a family with my dear wife, 912 00:38:01,051 --> 00:38:02,676 who remains banished 913 00:38:02,700 --> 00:38:03,800 in brandfort? 914 00:38:03,900 --> 00:38:05,676 I cannot and will not give 915 00:38:05,700 --> 00:38:07,576 any undertaking at a time 916 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,576 when I and you, the people, 917 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,376 are not free. 918 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:12,376 Your freedom and mine 919 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:13,400 "cannot be separate." 920 00:38:14,401 --> 00:38:16,276 "I will return." 921 00:38:16,300 --> 00:38:18,976 Viva Nelson Mandela! Viva! 922 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,076 Viva! 923 00:38:20,100 --> 00:38:21,100 Viva... 924 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:22,977 Viva! 925 00:38:23,001 --> 00:38:24,876 Mayibuye iafrika! 926 00:38:24,900 --> 00:38:26,776 Mayibuye! 927 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,600 Responsible South Africans 928 00:38:53,700 --> 00:38:55,476 have taken note of the 929 00:38:55,500 --> 00:38:57,376 conditions of violence 930 00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:58,500 and lawlessness which have 931 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,477 become endemic in many parts 932 00:39:00,501 --> 00:39:02,276 of the country. 933 00:39:02,300 --> 00:39:04,176 The government has thus far 934 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,076 shown the utmost Patience 935 00:39:06,100 --> 00:39:07,976 with regard to the tide of 936 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,000 anarchy that has swept 937 00:39:09,100 --> 00:39:10,876 across our country. 938 00:39:10,900 --> 00:39:12,776 But the situation cannot 939 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,576 be tolerated any longer. 940 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,576 Therefore, in terms of the 941 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,376 public safety act of 1953, 942 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,376 I hereby declare a state of 943 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:23,377 emergency. 944 00:39:23,401 --> 00:39:25,176 Good evening. 945 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:25,377 The black townships in 946 00:39:25,401 --> 00:39:27,076 South Africa are under 947 00:39:27,100 --> 00:39:28,176 curfew tonight after the 948 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:29,976 shooting dead of at least 17 949 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:30,977 black demonstrators 950 00:39:31,001 --> 00:39:32,876 by police this morning. 951 00:39:32,900 --> 00:39:33,077 Dozens more people 952 00:39:33,101 --> 00:39:34,776 were injured. 953 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:35,776 The official government 954 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:36,777 figures for the number killed 955 00:39:36,801 --> 00:39:38,576 is 17, but local people say 956 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,476 the real total is nearer 50. 957 00:39:41,500 --> 00:39:42,476 The police opened fire... 958 00:39:42,500 --> 00:39:43,477 With or without warning 959 00:39:43,501 --> 00:39:45,300 is not clear... as a crowd of 960 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:46,376 black demonstrators marched 961 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:47,300 along the road 962 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,176 out of uitenhage. 963 00:39:51,100 --> 00:39:52,976 Botswana, Zimbabwe, 964 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,876 and Zambia. 965 00:39:54,900 --> 00:39:55,900 The a.N.C. Has bases 966 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:56,900 at these locations in all 967 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:57,977 three countries. 968 00:39:58,001 --> 00:39:59,776 We will destroy these bases, 969 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,600 and with them, the a.N.C.'S 970 00:40:01,700 --> 00:40:02,576 ability to stage armed attacks 971 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:03,676 against South Africa. 972 00:40:03,700 --> 00:40:06,476 Our target date is may 19. 973 00:40:12,300 --> 00:40:14,076 We have an opportunity to 974 00:40:14,100 --> 00:40:15,176 strike at an enemy that has 975 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,076 sworn to destroy US. 976 00:40:17,100 --> 00:40:18,876 As far as negotiations go, 977 00:40:18,900 --> 00:40:19,976 Mr. President, when these 978 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,776 missions succeed, you will be 979 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:22,777 in a position to negotiate with 980 00:40:22,801 --> 00:40:24,900 an enemy that no longer exists. 981 00:40:31,500 --> 00:40:33,276 Magnus, proceed with 982 00:40:33,300 --> 00:40:34,300 your preparations. 983 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,376 That'll be all, gentlemen. 984 00:40:43,900 --> 00:40:45,800 De Klerk. 985 00:40:47,700 --> 00:40:49,676 I would've valued your support. 986 00:40:49,700 --> 00:40:51,476 I, uh, thought you were 987 00:40:51,500 --> 00:40:53,376 very clear about the direction 988 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:54,476 that you wished to go in. 989 00:40:54,500 --> 00:40:56,376 I said I would've valued 990 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,176 your active support. 991 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,176 Mr. President, you always 992 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,976 have my active support. 993 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,076 But? 994 00:41:05,100 --> 00:41:07,876 To do this on the very day 995 00:41:07,900 --> 00:41:09,676 of a possible major 996 00:41:09,700 --> 00:41:10,740 diplomatic breakthrough... 997 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:11,676 Not every political 998 00:41:11,700 --> 00:41:12,576 decision is... 999 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:13,576 That was a military 1000 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:14,476 decision. 1001 00:41:14,500 --> 00:41:15,600 Military victories do not 1002 00:41:15,700 --> 00:41:19,276 always mean political ones. 1003 00:41:19,300 --> 00:41:20,376 Ask the Americans about their 1004 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,176 experience in Vietnam. 1005 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,076 So, you're on the side 1006 00:41:24,100 --> 00:41:25,176 of appeasement now. 1007 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,076 I'm not on any side, 1008 00:41:27,100 --> 00:41:28,876 Mr. President. 1009 00:41:28,900 --> 00:41:29,800 You're testing my faith 1010 00:41:29,900 --> 00:41:31,776 in you, de Klerk. 1011 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:32,876 We will implement the 1012 00:41:32,900 --> 00:41:33,977 destruction of a.N.C. Bases 1013 00:41:34,001 --> 00:41:35,800 immediately. 1014 00:42:13,100 --> 00:42:16,876 Go! Go! Go! Go! Go! 1015 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,476 My wife is not going back 1016 00:42:28,500 --> 00:42:29,477 to brandfort. 1017 00:42:29,501 --> 00:42:32,176 She is in violation 1018 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:33,177 of her banning orders 1019 00:42:33,201 --> 00:42:35,076 merely by being in soweto. 1020 00:42:35,100 --> 00:42:36,176 Huh? 1021 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,000 I can't change the law 1022 00:42:38,100 --> 00:42:39,077 to suit you or your family, 1023 00:42:39,101 --> 00:42:40,776 or my family, for that matter. 1024 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:41,900 No, you cannot, but you do 1025 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,776 have some discretion 1026 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,576 in how it is enforced. 1027 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,476 I trust you will exercise 1028 00:42:49,500 --> 00:42:50,576 that discretion in reaching 1029 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:54,276 a just and proper decision. 1030 00:42:54,300 --> 00:42:56,376 I can't make any promises. 1031 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,976 Let me put it another way, 1032 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,876 Mr. Coetsee. 1033 00:43:03,900 --> 00:43:05,876 We know that your troubles 1034 00:43:05,900 --> 00:43:06,877 are multiplying. 1035 00:43:06,901 --> 00:43:08,676 Heh. Don't begin 1036 00:43:08,700 --> 00:43:09,677 with that tack again. 1037 00:43:09,701 --> 00:43:12,476 We know about the raids, 1038 00:43:12,500 --> 00:43:14,476 the police crackdowns. 1039 00:43:14,500 --> 00:43:17,376 Every day, the cells of your 1040 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,376 jails grow more and more 1041 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,076 crowded with angry 1042 00:43:21,100 --> 00:43:22,976 and defiant young men. 1043 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,076 It is an irreversible tide 1044 00:43:25,100 --> 00:43:27,776 you are opposing. 1045 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,876 You and I are talking 1046 00:43:31,900 --> 00:43:35,676 because we believe the future 1047 00:43:35,700 --> 00:43:37,376 will be very different 1048 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,276 than the past. 1049 00:43:39,300 --> 00:43:42,376 With that in mind, I urge you 1050 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:48,176 to treat my wife humanely. 1051 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,100 Do you understand me? 1052 00:43:53,700 --> 00:43:55,676 I will see what I can do. 1053 00:43:55,700 --> 00:43:56,740 But that's all I'm saying, 1054 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,476 Mr. Mandela. 1055 00:43:58,500 --> 00:44:00,600 Do your best. 1056 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,176 Our country... 1057 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,300 Is running out of time. 1058 00:44:09,300 --> 00:44:10,976 Overnight, 1059 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:11,876 seven men were shot dead 1060 00:44:11,900 --> 00:44:12,976 by police, who say they 1061 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:14,000 opened fire when rioters 1062 00:44:14,100 --> 00:44:15,077 attacked black policemen's 1063 00:44:15,101 --> 00:44:16,676 homes with petrol bombs. 1064 00:44:16,700 --> 00:44:17,676 Second newscaster: 1065 00:44:17,700 --> 00:44:18,676 Tensions in the black 1066 00:44:18,700 --> 00:44:19,576 townships on the east rand 1067 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:20,577 have been rising for weeks. 1068 00:44:20,601 --> 00:44:22,476 Today, only hours after the 1069 00:44:22,500 --> 00:44:23,476 overnight shootings, 1070 00:44:23,500 --> 00:44:24,477 the call went out to mourn 1071 00:44:24,501 --> 00:44:26,276 and Bury four young blacks 1072 00:44:26,300 --> 00:44:27,277 who died mysteriously 1073 00:44:27,301 --> 00:44:29,176 in hand grenade explosions 1074 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,076 a fortnight ago. 1075 00:44:31,100 --> 00:44:32,077 The local people have cause 1076 00:44:32,101 --> 00:44:33,976 to stay away from work, 1077 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:34,976 as several thousands 1078 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:35,876 ventured to a local sports 1079 00:44:35,900 --> 00:44:37,000 stadium for the funerals. 1080 00:44:38,900 --> 00:44:40,676 These terrorists will run 1081 00:44:40,700 --> 00:44:41,776 out of steam, I assure you. 1082 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,676 When do you think their 1083 00:44:43,700 --> 00:44:45,576 steam will run out? 1084 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,476 Just give it time. 1085 00:44:47,500 --> 00:44:48,500 Time is beginning 1086 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,376 to run out, I'm afraid. 1087 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,277 You're driving at something, 1088 00:44:52,301 --> 00:44:54,076 de Klerk. Out with it. 1089 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,300 Yes, what? 1090 00:45:00,900 --> 00:45:04,800 Sir, you'd better read this. 1091 00:45:18,100 --> 00:45:19,200 The congress of 1092 00:45:19,300 --> 00:45:22,876 the United States has voted 1093 00:45:22,900 --> 00:45:24,976 to institute economic sanctions 1094 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,876 against US. 1095 00:45:26,900 --> 00:45:30,776 Our friend, Mr. Reagan... 1096 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,476 Whom you understood US 1097 00:45:33,500 --> 00:45:34,576 so well... will sign the bill 1098 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,276 into law. 1099 00:45:36,300 --> 00:45:38,276 It is of no consequence! 1100 00:45:38,300 --> 00:45:39,300 We will not be bullied! 1101 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,076 If it was simply a matter 1102 00:45:41,100 --> 00:45:42,076 of being bullied, there would 1103 00:45:42,100 --> 00:45:43,077 be no problem. 1104 00:45:43,101 --> 00:45:45,076 I would welcome the attention. 1105 00:45:45,100 --> 00:45:46,077 But the world has decided that 1106 00:45:46,101 --> 00:45:47,976 South Africa doesn't exist. 1107 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,776 Then that is their delusion. 1108 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,576 Economic sanctions from the 1109 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:53,676 most powerful nation in 1110 00:45:53,700 --> 00:45:56,576 the world is no delusion. 1111 00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:57,577 Stand firm with me, 1112 00:45:57,601 --> 00:46:00,376 gentlemen... 1113 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:01,300 For our fatherland, 1114 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,276 for god's sake. 1115 00:46:36,700 --> 00:46:38,800 Yesterday, another 1116 00:46:38,900 --> 00:46:41,576 police informant was given 1117 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,576 the necklace of shame! 1118 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,476 Wear the uniform 1119 00:46:45,500 --> 00:46:47,276 of our oppressors, 1120 00:46:47,300 --> 00:46:48,277 wear the necklace of 1121 00:46:48,301 --> 00:46:50,176 the people's justice! 1122 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,076 Viva! 1123 00:46:52,100 --> 00:46:53,976 We have to face this 1124 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,976 government's mighty weapons 1125 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,776 of destruction to gain 1126 00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:58,876 our freedom. 1127 00:46:58,900 --> 00:47:00,776 Viva! 1128 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,776 Viva! We have no guns. 1129 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,376 Only stones, boxes of matches, 1130 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:08,476 and petrol. 1131 00:47:08,500 --> 00:47:11,376 But with our boxes of matches, 1132 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,276 hand in hand together, 1133 00:47:13,300 --> 00:47:14,277 we shall liberate 1134 00:47:14,301 --> 00:47:16,076 this country! 1135 00:47:16,100 --> 00:47:18,100 Viva! 1136 00:47:19,100 --> 00:47:20,900 Winnie... 1137 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:22,876 Have you lost your mind? 1138 00:47:22,900 --> 00:47:24,676 I said what needed 1139 00:47:24,700 --> 00:47:25,900 to be said. I have no regret. 1140 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,476 Well, you should. 1141 00:47:30,500 --> 00:47:32,476 Our movement is based on the 1142 00:47:32,500 --> 00:47:36,176 moral strength of our ideas 1143 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,076 and our ideals. 1144 00:47:39,100 --> 00:47:41,176 There is nothing moral about 1145 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:42,976 dousing a man with petrol 1146 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,000 and burning him to death 1147 00:47:44,100 --> 00:47:45,776 in the middle of... 1148 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,676 Nor is there anything moral 1149 00:47:47,700 --> 00:47:48,700 about them pimpies, 1150 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,576 these traitors and informants 1151 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:51,577 in our neighborhood who have 1152 00:47:51,601 --> 00:47:53,476 turned our lives in to hell. 1153 00:47:53,500 --> 00:47:55,476 You will never, ever 1154 00:47:55,500 --> 00:47:58,476 jeopardize this movement, 1155 00:47:58,500 --> 00:48:03,176 our family and your life, 1156 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,976 with this kind of 1157 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,776 ill-conceived outburst. 1158 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,676 Do you hear me? 1159 00:48:11,700 --> 00:48:13,676 Yes. I hear that you are 1160 00:48:13,700 --> 00:48:14,776 telling me I cannot speak 1161 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,576 my own mind. 1162 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,476 I am telling you that 1163 00:48:19,500 --> 00:48:22,176 you are not an individual. 1164 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,176 You do not speak for yourself. 1165 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,176 You speak for the African 1166 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:27,976 national congress. 1167 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,876 You speak for a cause... 1168 00:48:29,900 --> 00:48:31,776 Of freedom, justice, 1169 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,776 and equality for all people. 1170 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,576 And you speak 1171 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:38,677 for Nelson Mandela. 1172 00:48:38,701 --> 00:48:42,376 And you will not bring harm 1173 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,376 or dishonor to all we have 1174 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:48,276 worked for with these kinds of 1175 00:48:48,300 --> 00:48:51,176 incendiary and intemperate 1176 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,776 remarks. 1177 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:56,776 Are we clear? 1178 00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:57,876 Mm. 1179 00:48:57,900 --> 00:49:00,676 Are we clear?! 1180 00:49:00,700 --> 00:49:04,476 Yes. 1181 00:49:04,500 --> 00:49:06,500 We are. 1182 00:49:15,100 --> 00:49:16,876 Are you all right? 1183 00:49:16,900 --> 00:49:19,000 I'm fine, fine. 1184 00:49:22,700 --> 00:49:24,800 Good god, man. 1185 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:29,476 I'm afraid I'm not 1186 00:49:29,500 --> 00:49:30,477 as strong as I pre... 1187 00:49:30,501 --> 00:49:32,176 Ohh! 1188 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:33,200 Mr. Mandela! 1189 00:49:35,100 --> 00:49:36,976 He has tuberculosis. 1190 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:37,977 They have to operate. 1191 00:49:38,001 --> 00:49:39,876 T.b.? 1192 00:49:39,900 --> 00:49:40,876 Oh, no. 1193 00:49:40,900 --> 00:49:41,776 You don't cure t.B. 1194 00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:42,800 By operating on it. 1195 00:49:42,900 --> 00:49:44,800 He has fluid on his lungs. 1196 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,476 Good evening, Mr. Mandela. 1197 00:49:52,500 --> 00:49:54,276 Are you ready? 1198 00:49:54,300 --> 00:49:55,376 Let's get it over with, 1199 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,176 doctor. 1200 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:00,976 Something wrong, 1201 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,076 Mr. Mandela? 1202 00:50:02,100 --> 00:50:04,776 I was just thinking... 1203 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,776 How do I know that, under that 1204 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,876 mask of yours, you are not 1205 00:50:08,900 --> 00:50:10,676 really president both a? 1206 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,276 Ah, sergeant. 1207 00:50:19,300 --> 00:50:21,076 Finally, you have come 1208 00:50:21,100 --> 00:50:22,176 to fetch me. 1209 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:23,100 Yes, I have. 1210 00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:24,077 You're looking good. 1211 00:50:24,101 --> 00:50:25,976 Thank you. 1212 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:27,876 I hope they missed me 1213 00:50:27,900 --> 00:50:29,776 back there. 1214 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:30,676 They certainly did, 1215 00:50:30,700 --> 00:50:31,677 I can assure you of that. 1216 00:50:31,701 --> 00:50:33,676 It will be nice to see 1217 00:50:33,700 --> 00:50:35,476 my old friends again. 1218 00:50:35,500 --> 00:50:36,476 You're not going to be 1219 00:50:36,500 --> 00:50:37,477 seeing them for a while, 1220 00:50:37,501 --> 00:50:38,527 I'm afraid. 1221 00:50:38,551 --> 00:50:40,376 Why? 1222 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,276 What happened? 1223 00:50:42,300 --> 00:50:43,276 You're not going back 1224 00:50:43,300 --> 00:50:44,277 to pollsmoor. 1225 00:50:44,301 --> 00:50:46,076 Orders. 1226 00:50:46,100 --> 00:50:48,100 Where are they sending me? 1227 00:51:32,100 --> 00:51:33,077 You've got complete 1228 00:51:33,101 --> 00:51:34,177 run of the house, 1229 00:51:34,201 --> 00:51:37,000 including the swimming pool. 1230 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,776 There's a TV, stereo, 1231 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,676 access to as many newspapers, 1232 00:51:43,700 --> 00:51:44,700 magazines and books 1233 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,476 as you like. 1234 00:51:47,500 --> 00:51:49,576 Uncensored. 1235 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,276 You'll receive 1236 00:51:51,300 --> 00:51:52,277 all your mail here... 1237 00:51:52,301 --> 00:51:54,276 Censored, I'm afraid. 1238 00:51:54,300 --> 00:51:56,176 All the creature comforts 1239 00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:57,976 of home, hmm? 1240 00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,076 Including more frequent 1241 00:51:59,100 --> 00:52:02,100 and unsupervised family visits. 1242 00:52:03,900 --> 00:52:07,576 So... what do you think, eh? 1243 00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,476 Tell your president 1244 00:52:09,500 --> 00:52:12,600 I appreciate my new home. 1245 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,276 And he should come by 1246 00:52:17,300 --> 00:52:22,200 and visit me in it sometime. 1247 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:28,676 Is he ready? 1248 00:52:28,700 --> 00:52:29,677 Just a minute. 1249 00:52:29,701 --> 00:52:31,700 He'll be ready in a minute. 1250 00:52:34,500 --> 00:52:37,276 Here we go... your jacket. 1251 00:52:37,300 --> 00:52:39,176 First-class service. 1252 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:40,200 No, no, no, no. 1253 00:52:40,300 --> 00:52:41,276 I like it, I like it. 1254 00:52:41,300 --> 00:52:42,277 That tie won't work. 1255 00:52:42,301 --> 00:52:43,976 Here. 1256 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,100 Ah, a winds or knot. 1257 00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:46,876 I much prefer them. 1258 00:52:46,900 --> 00:52:47,877 I much prefer them. 1259 00:52:47,901 --> 00:52:49,900 Okay, let's go. 1260 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:53,800 Good luck. 1261 00:53:07,100 --> 00:53:08,900 Wait, wait. 1262 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:09,876 What? 1263 00:53:09,900 --> 00:53:10,900 Your shoelaces. 1264 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,900 Ah. Heh heh. 1265 00:53:18,700 --> 00:53:20,600 Forgive me, I had forgotten. 1266 00:53:20,700 --> 00:53:23,376 It's been 25 years since I've 1267 00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,276 been all dressed up like this. 1268 00:53:26,300 --> 00:53:28,076 Please come. 1269 00:53:28,100 --> 00:53:30,000 Thank you. 1270 00:53:30,100 --> 00:53:32,076 Mr. Mandela. 1271 00:53:32,100 --> 00:53:34,000 Please. 1272 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:37,676 Mr. Mandela, it gives me 1273 00:53:37,700 --> 00:53:38,600 great pleasure to introduce 1274 00:53:38,700 --> 00:53:39,677 to you the president, 1275 00:53:39,701 --> 00:53:40,676 P.W. Botha. 1276 00:53:40,700 --> 00:53:41,677 Mr. Mandela. 1277 00:53:41,701 --> 00:53:43,476 Mr. President. 1278 00:53:43,500 --> 00:53:44,477 Please, sit down. 1279 00:53:44,501 --> 00:53:45,477 Thank you. 1280 00:53:45,501 --> 00:53:47,276 Tea for you? 1281 00:53:47,300 --> 00:53:48,400 Thank you. 1282 00:53:50,300 --> 00:53:52,076 So, you're recovery from 1283 00:53:52,100 --> 00:53:53,176 tuberculosis has gone well? 1284 00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,976 Quite, thank you for asking. 1285 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:56,976 And you? I had heard 1286 00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:57,976 you had had a slight... 1287 00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:58,977 Stroke, yeah. 1288 00:53:59,001 --> 00:54:00,776 Some people seemed to think 1289 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:01,876 it would knock me back a bit, 1290 00:54:01,900 --> 00:54:03,627 but I showed those young people 1291 00:54:03,651 --> 00:54:04,700 a thing or two. 1292 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,576 You know, they call me 1293 00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:09,376 die groot krokodil. 1294 00:54:10,401 --> 00:54:12,376 The big crocodile, yeah. 1295 00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,176 But I prefer to think of 1296 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:15,276 myself as a bull. 1297 00:54:15,300 --> 00:54:17,176 An old bull. 1298 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,976 And in my culture, an old bull 1299 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:21,876 is a powerful symbol. 1300 00:54:21,900 --> 00:54:24,776 In my xhosa culture as well, 1301 00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:25,800 Mr. President. 1302 00:54:25,900 --> 00:54:27,576 Well, then, we've both 1303 00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:28,577 shown them what a couple of 1304 00:54:28,601 --> 00:54:30,576 old bulls can do, huh? 1305 00:54:33,500 --> 00:54:37,176 We say that when you yoke 1306 00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:38,276 two bulls together, 1307 00:54:38,300 --> 00:54:40,076 they pull hardest when they 1308 00:54:40,100 --> 00:54:42,200 cooperate, Mr. President. 1309 00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:47,676 Yeah. 1310 00:54:47,700 --> 00:54:49,676 Well, Mr. Mandela, I think you 1311 00:54:49,700 --> 00:54:51,677 and I have a lot to talk about. 1312 00:54:51,701 --> 00:54:53,576 I don't think there is 1313 00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,376 anything we can't solve, 1314 00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:56,476 Mr. President. 1315 00:54:56,500 --> 00:54:59,400 Good. 1316 00:55:00,300 --> 00:55:03,076 To start, I would like to 1317 00:55:03,100 --> 00:55:04,077 discuss the possibility 1318 00:55:04,101 --> 00:55:06,876 of releasing my compatriot 1319 00:55:06,900 --> 00:55:08,776 Walter Sisulu. 1320 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,676 The years have not been 1321 00:55:11,700 --> 00:55:13,576 easy on him. 1322 00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,576 Yes. Well, I'll have my 1323 00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,576 ministers look to that matter, 1324 00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,376 rest assured. 1325 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:20,377 Is there anything else, 1326 00:55:20,401 --> 00:55:21,500 Mr. Mandela? 1327 00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,076 Obviously, there are many 1328 00:55:26,100 --> 00:55:27,100 matters, Mr. President. 1329 00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:28,976 Good. 1330 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:29,876 I'm happy to have had this 1331 00:55:29,900 --> 00:55:30,976 opportunity to meet with you, 1332 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:32,776 Mr. Mandela. 1333 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:33,876 You're an interesting man. 1334 00:55:33,900 --> 00:55:35,676 But, sir, you can't be 1335 00:55:35,700 --> 00:55:37,576 leaving just yet. 1336 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:38,576 I must, I'm afraid. 1337 00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:39,476 I have pressing business 1338 00:55:39,500 --> 00:55:40,477 elsewhere. 1339 00:55:40,501 --> 00:55:41,577 I only wanted this to be 1340 00:55:41,601 --> 00:55:43,300 a courtesy meeting anyway. 1341 00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:44,477 I'm sure you will understand. 1342 00:55:44,501 --> 00:55:47,400 Once again, a pleasure. 1343 00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:54,976 A 14-year-old 1344 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:56,776 boy was found murdered 1345 00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:57,877 earlier this morning in the 1346 00:55:57,901 --> 00:55:59,676 home of Winnie Mandela. 1347 00:55:59,700 --> 00:56:00,777 Authorities are conducting 1348 00:56:00,801 --> 00:56:03,476 an investigation to determine 1349 00:56:03,500 --> 00:56:04,576 the motive and responsibility 1350 00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:05,476 for his death. 1351 00:56:05,500 --> 00:56:06,500 Meanwhile, according to 1352 00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,276 police, an autopsy will be 1353 00:56:09,300 --> 00:56:10,277 performed in accordance with 1354 00:56:10,301 --> 00:56:12,076 the ongoing investigation. 1355 00:56:20,900 --> 00:56:22,776 It's very bad. 1356 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,676 A boy was killed in the house. 1357 00:56:25,700 --> 00:56:28,376 14 years old, they say. 1358 00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:29,500 Winnie... 1359 00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,276 Was she there? 1360 00:56:32,300 --> 00:56:35,300 We don't know. 1361 00:56:43,900 --> 00:56:46,776 I think you should arrange 1362 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,676 for her to come see me, 1363 00:56:49,700 --> 00:56:51,700 discuss the matter. 1364 00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,176 Winnie... 1365 00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:01,976 Were you there? 1366 00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:03,876 No. 1367 00:57:03,900 --> 00:57:05,776 I was not. I told you. 1368 00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:06,876 Did you know what these 1369 00:57:06,900 --> 00:57:07,877 young men of yours were doing 1370 00:57:07,901 --> 00:57:09,676 to the boy? 1371 00:57:09,700 --> 00:57:11,576 They are not my young men. 1372 00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:12,676 They are my bodyguards. 1373 00:57:12,700 --> 00:57:14,400 Did you know what 1374 00:57:14,500 --> 00:57:15,376 they were doing to... 1375 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:16,400 No. I do not want to 1376 00:57:16,500 --> 00:57:18,276 discuss this! 1377 00:57:18,300 --> 00:57:19,376 It has nothing to do with me. 1378 00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:20,377 I gave that boy refuge 1379 00:57:20,401 --> 00:57:23,176 in my house, that is all. 1380 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,976 Please, let's just leave it. 1381 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:27,976 I insist that you face it. 1382 00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,876 I knew nothing. 1383 00:57:30,900 --> 00:57:32,676 Why are you cross-examining me 1384 00:57:32,700 --> 00:57:33,677 like this? 1385 00:57:33,701 --> 00:57:34,677 I am innocent. 1386 00:57:34,701 --> 00:57:36,576 I did not lay a hand 1387 00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,376 on that boy. 1388 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:43,176 I believe you, winnie. 1389 00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,176 I trust people too much. 1390 00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:46,177 That has always been 1391 00:57:46,201 --> 00:57:47,976 my problem. 1392 00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,876 No. Your problem is that 1393 00:57:50,900 --> 00:57:52,876 you trust the wrong people. 1394 00:57:52,900 --> 00:57:56,676 You have to ask yourself... 1395 00:57:56,700 --> 00:57:57,777 What did you do to let this 1396 00:57:57,801 --> 00:57:59,476 evil into your house? 1397 00:57:59,500 --> 00:58:01,400 This can be a political 1398 00:58:01,500 --> 00:58:02,577 embarrassment, winnie. 1399 00:58:02,601 --> 00:58:04,276 But first and foremost, 1400 00:58:04,300 --> 00:58:05,376 it is a tragedy. 1401 00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,176 A young boy was murdered. 1402 00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:11,976 I know nothing about it. 1403 00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,976 Winnie, listen. 1404 00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,776 I have started a process 1405 00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:18,776 the end of which cannot 1406 00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:19,777 be predicted. 1407 00:58:19,801 --> 00:58:22,576 I cannot say what tactics 1408 00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:24,576 the regime will employ 1409 00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:26,376 against me. 1410 00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:27,377 I have to be constantly 1411 00:58:27,401 --> 00:58:29,200 vigilant. 1412 00:58:29,300 --> 00:58:30,277 This business about the boy, 1413 00:58:30,301 --> 00:58:33,176 this tragedy, tugs at my mind, 1414 00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,076 drags me away from where 1415 00:58:35,100 --> 00:58:37,976 my mind should be. 1416 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:39,976 Do you understand? 1417 00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,676 Do you? 1418 00:58:42,700 --> 00:58:45,676 I am not like you, Nelson... 1419 00:58:45,700 --> 00:58:50,376 All analysis and discipline 1420 00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,276 and will. 1421 00:58:52,300 --> 00:58:54,176 I smash into things. 1422 00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:57,076 I yell, I scream, I cry. 1423 00:58:57,100 --> 00:58:59,976 I make mistakes. 1424 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,976 Stompie was a mistake. 1425 00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:04,676 That is not good enough, 1426 00:59:04,700 --> 00:59:05,776 winnie. 1427 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,576 This was not merely a mistake. 1428 00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,476 A boy died in your house. 1429 00:59:11,500 --> 00:59:13,376 I know. 1430 00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:15,276 These bodyguards of yours... 1431 00:59:15,300 --> 00:59:16,377 What do they call themselves... 1432 00:59:16,401 --> 00:59:18,176 The Mandela football club? 1433 00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:19,177 Get rid of them. 1434 00:59:19,201 --> 00:59:22,076 Yes, of course. Yes. 1435 00:59:22,100 --> 00:59:23,077 Try not to make 1436 00:59:23,101 --> 00:59:24,976 any more mistakes. 1437 00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:26,876 Our enemies seize on them 1438 00:59:26,900 --> 00:59:29,676 and turn them against US. 1439 00:59:29,700 --> 00:59:31,576 Please, let's not fight 1440 00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,476 over it. 1441 00:59:34,500 --> 00:59:35,577 I just have these few moments 1442 00:59:35,601 --> 00:59:37,300 with you. 1443 00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,500 Let's not spend them fighting. 1444 00:59:42,100 --> 00:59:45,100 Please. 1445 00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:58,376 In what could 1446 00:59:58,400 --> 00:59:59,300 be the country's biggest ever 1447 00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:00,476 legal strike, the union 1448 01:00:00,500 --> 01:00:03,176 has called on 200,000 men... 1449 01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:04,177 Second newscaster: 1450 01:00:04,201 --> 01:00:05,276 36 black railwaymen came out 1451 01:00:05,300 --> 01:00:06,277 of the South African state 1452 01:00:06,301 --> 01:00:08,177 railway's company, dismissed 1453 01:00:08,201 --> 01:00:10,876 as 16,000 of their colleagues 1454 01:00:10,900 --> 01:00:12,060 who refused to return to work 1455 01:00:12,100 --> 01:00:13,776 after six weeks of their 1456 01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:14,776 national strike. 1457 01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:15,776 Other 1458 01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:16,777 major unions are talking 1459 01:00:16,801 --> 01:00:18,576 of strike in support 1460 01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:20,476 if history repeats itself. 1461 01:00:20,500 --> 01:00:22,500 A.N.C.! A.N.C.! A.N.C.! 1462 01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,276 Everybody here? 1463 01:00:25,300 --> 01:00:26,500 Yes. 1464 01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,076 Mr. President, I'm speaking 1465 01:00:35,100 --> 01:00:36,776 to you not only as chairman 1466 01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:37,777 of the party and a member 1467 01:00:37,801 --> 01:00:39,777 of the cabinet, but as a friend 1468 01:00:39,801 --> 01:00:41,576 and as an admirer. 1469 01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:42,676 We have all learned a great 1470 01:00:42,700 --> 01:00:43,676 deal from you, sir. 1471 01:00:43,700 --> 01:00:44,677 You are a strong, 1472 01:00:44,701 --> 01:00:46,576 proud warrior, a defender 1473 01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:48,276 of the traditions that have 1474 01:00:48,300 --> 01:00:49,376 made our nation great, and... 1475 01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,176 Yes, yes, yes. 1476 01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:54,076 Sit, gentlemen. 1477 01:00:54,100 --> 01:00:55,976 That's all very fine, but you 1478 01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:57,076 know and I know that you did 1479 01:00:57,100 --> 01:00:58,876 not come all the way out here 1480 01:00:58,900 --> 01:00:59,877 at 8:30 in the morning 1481 01:00:59,901 --> 01:01:01,676 to flatter me. 1482 01:01:01,700 --> 01:01:03,676 If you have something to say, 1483 01:01:03,700 --> 01:01:05,800 then say it. 1484 01:01:08,500 --> 01:01:11,376 Sir... you've had two strokes 1485 01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,176 within the past year. 1486 01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:14,177 You've resigned your 1487 01:01:14,201 --> 01:01:15,276 chairmanship of 1488 01:01:15,300 --> 01:01:16,277 the national party, where 1489 01:01:16,301 --> 01:01:18,976 Mr. De Klerk has replaced you. 1490 01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:20,076 Not my choice. 1491 01:01:20,100 --> 01:01:21,876 But go on. 1492 01:01:21,900 --> 01:01:25,676 With respect, sir, we think 1493 01:01:25,700 --> 01:01:26,800 you should consider playing 1494 01:01:26,900 --> 01:01:29,576 a more... how shall I put it? 1495 01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:33,376 You want me to resign? 1496 01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:34,577 We think 1497 01:01:34,601 --> 01:01:36,376 you should appoint 1498 01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,176 an acting president, 1499 01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:39,276 take a rest for a while. 1500 01:01:39,300 --> 01:01:41,000 If you want me to resign, 1501 01:01:41,100 --> 01:01:42,200 then say so. 1502 01:01:44,900 --> 01:01:45,977 Well, at least until after 1503 01:01:46,001 --> 01:01:47,700 the elections, sir, 1504 01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:48,677 by which time you... 1505 01:01:48,701 --> 01:01:51,576 Enough! So... This is how 1506 01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:53,476 you all feel, is it? 1507 01:01:53,500 --> 01:01:54,576 Answer me. 1508 01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:56,600 Who agrees with him? 1509 01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,876 So... 1510 01:02:08,900 --> 01:02:09,877 Well, let me tell you what 1511 01:02:09,901 --> 01:02:11,676 I think of you. 1512 01:02:11,700 --> 01:02:12,800 You are cowards. 1513 01:02:12,900 --> 01:02:14,576 This isn't an argument, 1514 01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:16,476 Mr. President. 1515 01:02:16,500 --> 01:02:17,576 We are here to tell you 1516 01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:19,476 that it's time to stand down. 1517 01:02:19,500 --> 01:02:21,276 No! You stand down! 1518 01:02:21,300 --> 01:02:23,276 And you! You! 1519 01:02:23,300 --> 01:02:25,276 I should fire all of you. 1520 01:02:25,300 --> 01:02:27,176 I have the right. 1521 01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:28,076 I'm still president, 1522 01:02:28,100 --> 01:02:29,076 you hypocrites. 1523 01:02:29,100 --> 01:02:30,140 Mr. President, the country 1524 01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:31,876 needs new leadership. 1525 01:02:31,900 --> 01:02:33,077 The failure of the Mandela 1526 01:02:33,101 --> 01:02:34,776 talks, the failure to resolve 1527 01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:35,877 the violence in the townships... 1528 01:02:35,901 --> 01:02:36,877 All I need is time! 1529 01:02:36,901 --> 01:02:38,576 And now there's evidence 1530 01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:40,476 of scandal and corruption. 1531 01:02:40,500 --> 01:02:42,376 Mr. President... 1532 01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,376 There is an election coming up. 1533 01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:49,076 You asked me to be frank. 1534 01:02:49,100 --> 01:02:50,300 Well, then, sir... 1535 01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:56,876 You have become a liability 1536 01:02:56,900 --> 01:02:58,676 to our party. 1537 01:02:58,700 --> 01:02:59,776 You go too far. 1538 01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:01,700 Will you resign? 1539 01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,276 Yes! 1540 01:03:08,300 --> 01:03:10,176 Yes! 1541 01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,276 I will resign. 1542 01:03:12,300 --> 01:03:13,277 And tonight, I will go 1543 01:03:13,301 --> 01:03:15,027 on television and announce 1544 01:03:15,051 --> 01:03:17,876 to the world what a pack of 1545 01:03:17,900 --> 01:03:20,776 liars and traitors you all are. 1546 01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:21,676 I'm finished with 1547 01:03:21,700 --> 01:03:22,677 with the lot of you. 1548 01:03:22,701 --> 01:03:24,900 Liars, all of you! Liars! 1549 01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:32,400 Congratulations, 1550 01:03:32,500 --> 01:03:35,176 Mr. President. 1551 01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:36,176 Good work. 1552 01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:37,176 Thank you. 1553 01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:38,177 Hear, hear, Mr. President. 1554 01:03:38,201 --> 01:03:40,200 Well done, sir. 1555 01:04:04,900 --> 01:04:06,000 Good evening. 1556 01:04:06,100 --> 01:04:09,676 Good evening, Mr. President. 1557 01:04:09,700 --> 01:04:10,776 May I introduce 1558 01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:12,576 Mr. Nelson Mandela? 1559 01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:14,576 Mr. Mandela. 1560 01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:16,376 Good to meet you. 1561 01:04:20,300 --> 01:04:22,100 I'd heard that you spoke 1562 01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:24,176 fluent afrikaans, Mr. Mandela. 1563 01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:25,976 I haven't had much 1564 01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:27,876 practice for a while. 1565 01:04:27,900 --> 01:04:28,976 Please. Thank you, 1566 01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:30,876 minister coetsee. 1567 01:04:30,900 --> 01:04:31,877 I've read some of your 1568 01:04:31,901 --> 01:04:33,776 writings... 1569 01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:36,576 A speech from the '50s, 1570 01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:38,476 your statement prior to 1571 01:04:38,500 --> 01:04:41,376 your imprisonment in 1964. 1572 01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,276 Please. 1573 01:04:44,300 --> 01:04:48,076 You are a most eloquent and 1574 01:04:48,100 --> 01:04:50,076 passionate man, Mr. Mandela. 1575 01:04:50,100 --> 01:04:51,976 Thank you. 1576 01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:53,776 Let US hope that our discourse 1577 01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:54,876 is marked more by eloquence 1578 01:04:54,900 --> 01:04:56,776 than passion. 1579 01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:59,576 Please, sit down. 1580 01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:01,476 You understand... 1581 01:05:01,500 --> 01:05:03,376 I make no promises. 1582 01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,376 As long as our conversations 1583 01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,276 take US forward. 1584 01:05:07,300 --> 01:05:09,276 Well, then, a good sign 1585 01:05:09,300 --> 01:05:11,176 of progress would be 1586 01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:12,177 an end to the armed struggle 1587 01:05:12,201 --> 01:05:13,976 on your side, 1588 01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:15,900 a commitment to peace. 1589 01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:17,876 For now, my willingness 1590 01:05:17,900 --> 01:05:19,776 to talk is precisely the 1591 01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,576 commitment to peace you seek. 1592 01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:23,476 Let me put it this way... 1593 01:05:23,500 --> 01:05:24,600 I want your guarantee... 1594 01:05:24,700 --> 01:05:26,476 Excuse me, Mr. President. 1595 01:05:26,500 --> 01:05:28,376 I can offer you no guarantee 1596 01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:29,400 of any kind. 1597 01:05:29,500 --> 01:05:31,176 I'd have to speak with 1598 01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:33,176 my colleagues first. 1599 01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:36,076 Well, how can that work? 1600 01:05:36,100 --> 01:05:37,100 Most of your people are 1601 01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:38,177 officially banned and living 1602 01:05:38,201 --> 01:05:39,776 in exile. 1603 01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:40,900 Of course. 1604 01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:42,676 But if that is 1605 01:05:42,700 --> 01:05:44,576 an inconvenience, you can 1606 01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:46,576 always UN-ban the a.N.C. 1607 01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:48,400 And let our leaders come home 1608 01:05:48,500 --> 01:05:50,376 so they can give you their 1609 01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:52,500 assurances in person. 1610 01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:55,400 That's impossible. 1611 01:05:57,300 --> 01:05:59,976 At this time. 1612 01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:03,776 At this time. 1613 01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:07,676 I'm a realist, Mr. Mandela. 1614 01:06:07,700 --> 01:06:09,600 Once my government commits 1615 01:06:09,700 --> 01:06:11,676 itself to negotiations, 1616 01:06:11,700 --> 01:06:13,376 both you and I know 1617 01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:15,276 what the outcome must be. 1618 01:06:15,300 --> 01:06:17,176 Free and Democratic 1619 01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:20,076 elections for all the people. 1620 01:06:20,100 --> 01:06:21,176 Mm-hmm. I am under 1621 01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:22,976 no delusions. 1622 01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:24,076 But I will not countenance 1623 01:06:24,100 --> 01:06:25,900 power-grabbing. 1624 01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:28,676 Power-sharing, yes. 1625 01:06:28,700 --> 01:06:29,860 But not the blind abandonment 1626 01:06:29,900 --> 01:06:31,676 of all power. 1627 01:06:31,700 --> 01:06:33,676 Majority rule 1628 01:06:33,700 --> 01:06:36,476 is not power-grabbing. 1629 01:06:36,500 --> 01:06:37,477 No whites would be 1630 01:06:37,501 --> 01:06:38,577 comfortable in a country 1631 01:06:38,601 --> 01:06:40,276 dominated by blacks. 1632 01:06:40,300 --> 01:06:42,276 For more than 300 years, 1633 01:06:42,300 --> 01:06:43,277 you have been dominated 1634 01:06:43,301 --> 01:06:45,200 by blacks. 1635 01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:49,776 You've simply never 1636 01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,900 acknowledged the fact. 1637 01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:56,676 We must have some say 1638 01:06:56,700 --> 01:06:58,576 in the future. 1639 01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:00,476 If you are talking 1640 01:07:00,500 --> 01:07:02,276 about anything less than 1641 01:07:02,300 --> 01:07:04,176 one person, one vote, it is 1642 01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:07,076 a non-negotiable item. 1643 01:07:07,100 --> 01:07:08,176 The rest of Africa 1644 01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:09,177 is full of the relics 1645 01:07:09,201 --> 01:07:10,876 of democracies that gave 1646 01:07:10,900 --> 01:07:12,900 one man one vote... 1647 01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:14,100 Once. 1648 01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:20,676 Mr. Mandela... 1649 01:07:20,700 --> 01:07:23,476 Everything is negotiable. 1650 01:07:23,500 --> 01:07:25,376 I'm sorry, sir. 1651 01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:28,276 But what you are proposing 1652 01:07:28,300 --> 01:07:30,076 is nothing less than 1653 01:07:30,100 --> 01:07:31,976 a transparent attempt 1654 01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,876 to maintain white control. 1655 01:07:34,900 --> 01:07:36,976 You're being unduly cynical, 1656 01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:38,776 Mr. Mandela. 1657 01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:41,576 That is a matter of opinion, 1658 01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:43,476 Mr. President. 1659 01:07:43,500 --> 01:07:47,476 Well... we will have to 1660 01:07:47,500 --> 01:07:49,276 change it, then. 1661 01:07:49,300 --> 01:07:51,276 You and I are both going to 1662 01:07:51,300 --> 01:07:53,076 have to be willing to make 1663 01:07:53,100 --> 01:07:54,200 some compromises. 1664 01:07:54,300 --> 01:07:55,976 If we want to set 1665 01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:57,976 ground rules, we need to 1666 01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:00,000 begin negotiations. 1667 01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:05,676 Mr. President, I don't mean 1668 01:08:05,700 --> 01:08:07,676 to flatter you when I say that 1669 01:08:07,700 --> 01:08:10,476 I sense an integrity here 1670 01:08:10,500 --> 01:08:13,276 that has not distinguished 1671 01:08:13,300 --> 01:08:15,376 many of your predecessors. 1672 01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:20,076 So, yes... 1673 01:08:20,100 --> 01:08:22,876 I agree. 1674 01:08:22,900 --> 01:08:25,776 Good. 1675 01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:28,700 Then let's begin. 1676 01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:32,476 I've crossed the point 1677 01:08:32,500 --> 01:08:33,577 of no return, kobie. 1678 01:08:33,601 --> 01:08:35,276 I've embarked on my own 1679 01:08:35,300 --> 01:08:36,277 perestroika. 1680 01:08:36,301 --> 01:08:38,176 Yeah. The trick now 1681 01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:39,276 is not to suffer the same fate 1682 01:08:39,300 --> 01:08:40,277 as gorbachev. 1683 01:08:40,301 --> 01:08:41,976 Do you know that Mandela 1684 01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:43,076 was once a boxer? 1685 01:08:43,100 --> 01:08:44,100 Yeah. 1686 01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:45,876 He'll know that you've got 1687 01:08:45,900 --> 01:08:46,977 to roll with the punches. 1688 01:08:47,001 --> 01:08:48,876 He'll expect me to give ground, 1689 01:08:48,900 --> 01:08:49,877 but he can't expect me 1690 01:08:49,901 --> 01:08:51,676 to commit suicide. 1691 01:08:51,700 --> 01:08:53,676 I will not go down in history 1692 01:08:53,700 --> 01:08:55,576 as the man who destroyed 1693 01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:57,376 his own people. 1694 01:08:57,400 --> 01:08:59,276 So, marike, you and Frederik 1695 01:08:59,300 --> 01:09:00,276 used to all the pomp 1696 01:09:00,300 --> 01:09:01,176 and ceremony here? 1697 01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:02,276 There's not as much of that 1698 01:09:02,300 --> 01:09:04,076 around as with Mr. Botha. 1699 01:09:04,100 --> 01:09:05,976 But it's been quite a year, 1700 01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:06,976 thank you very much. 1701 01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:07,976 I'm very proud of you, 1702 01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:08,977 Frederik. 1703 01:09:09,001 --> 01:09:10,776 Thank you, thank you. 1704 01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:11,700 And when I think 1705 01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:12,676 how I used to nag you. 1706 01:09:12,700 --> 01:09:13,677 Don't stop nagging me now. 1707 01:09:13,701 --> 01:09:14,777 I've come to rely on it. 1708 01:09:17,700 --> 01:09:19,427 What about all the unrest, 1709 01:09:19,451 --> 01:09:20,476 Frederik, hmm? 1710 01:09:20,500 --> 01:09:21,576 Are you going to maintain... 1711 01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:23,276 All part of the job. 1712 01:09:23,300 --> 01:09:24,176 It's going to be all right. 1713 01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:25,177 The people expect 1714 01:09:25,201 --> 01:09:26,276 so much of him. 1715 01:09:26,300 --> 01:09:28,976 You're only one man, Frederik. 1716 01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:29,977 Do you remember what 1717 01:09:30,001 --> 01:09:31,077 the reverend bingle said 1718 01:09:31,101 --> 01:09:32,976 at my inauguration? 1719 01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:34,927 "He who stands in the council 1720 01:09:34,951 --> 01:09:36,927 chamber of god should be strong 1721 01:09:36,951 --> 01:09:38,777 in his willingness to pursue 1722 01:09:38,801 --> 01:09:40,676 the right course and push 1723 01:09:40,700 --> 01:09:43,376 "forward new reforms." 1724 01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:45,376 It was quite a sermon. 1725 01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:47,300 Yes, but from the pulpit, 1726 01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:50,076 the world is a simple place. 1727 01:09:50,100 --> 01:09:51,200 Frederik, you can't change 1728 01:09:51,300 --> 01:09:52,976 the world overnight. 1729 01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,876 I don't care what anyone says. 1730 01:09:55,900 --> 01:09:56,977 It seems to me that there is 1731 01:09:57,001 --> 01:09:58,876 a just road to be taken. 1732 01:09:58,900 --> 01:10:00,676 I don't know, some people will 1733 01:10:00,700 --> 01:10:01,777 hate me for what I'm going 1734 01:10:01,801 --> 01:10:03,576 to do, but I have to move 1735 01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:05,476 forward, and I have to believe 1736 01:10:05,500 --> 01:10:06,577 that my vision of the future 1737 01:10:06,601 --> 01:10:09,400 isn't simply an accident. 1738 01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:15,976 Yes, yes. 1739 01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:17,076 Listen to me. 1740 01:10:17,100 --> 01:10:19,876 Listen! Listen! 1741 01:10:19,900 --> 01:10:21,776 The time has come for our 1742 01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:23,776 nation to take a new course, 1743 01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:25,676 to bridge the gap between 1744 01:10:25,700 --> 01:10:26,677 political fantasy 1745 01:10:26,701 --> 01:10:29,476 and practical reality. 1746 01:10:29,500 --> 01:10:32,276 As a result, today and 1747 01:10:32,300 --> 01:10:34,176 henceforth, the policy of 1748 01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:35,276 social engineering 1749 01:10:35,300 --> 01:10:37,176 known as apartheid 1750 01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:38,976 will cease to exist. 1751 01:10:48,700 --> 01:10:50,577 All political prisoners will 1752 01:10:50,601 --> 01:10:52,400 have their cases reviewed, 1753 01:10:52,500 --> 01:10:53,577 and the minister of justice 1754 01:10:53,601 --> 01:10:55,476 will determine which prisoners 1755 01:10:55,500 --> 01:10:57,500 will be freed. 1756 01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:31,776 Madiba. 1757 01:11:36,700 --> 01:11:37,576 Madiba. 1758 01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:38,600 Gabi. 1759 01:11:41,401 --> 01:11:43,276 Good, good, good, good. 1760 01:11:43,300 --> 01:11:43,477 Madiba. 1761 01:11:43,501 --> 01:11:46,276 Raymond. 1762 01:11:46,300 --> 01:11:48,200 See you. 1763 01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:51,876 Nervous? 1764 01:11:51,900 --> 01:11:53,000 It's been such a long time, 1765 01:11:53,100 --> 01:11:54,776 Nelson. 1766 01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:56,676 Freedom... I always knew 1767 01:11:56,700 --> 01:11:59,576 it would come, but... 1768 01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:02,576 I'll be joining you soon. 1769 01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:05,500 Until then? 1770 01:12:07,300 --> 01:12:08,276 Agitate. 1771 01:12:08,300 --> 01:12:10,176 Old lion. 1772 01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:13,100 Agitate. 1773 01:12:58,200 --> 01:12:59,976 Marike, I need 1774 01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:00,977 you to understand what I'm 1775 01:13:01,001 --> 01:13:02,076 trying to do. 1776 01:13:02,100 --> 01:13:03,876 South Africa was given 1777 01:13:03,900 --> 01:13:05,776 to US by god, Frederik. 1778 01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:07,676 It's our homeland. 1779 01:13:07,700 --> 01:13:08,676 And what you are doing 1780 01:13:08,700 --> 01:13:09,600 frightens me. 1781 01:13:09,700 --> 01:13:10,676 It is frightening, 1782 01:13:10,700 --> 01:13:11,576 I know that. 1783 01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:12,576 Don't you think I feel that 1784 01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:13,476 as well? 1785 01:13:13,500 --> 01:13:14,500 I have to push forward. 1786 01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:16,327 If we don't share this country, 1787 01:13:16,351 --> 01:13:18,176 we afrikaaners will lose it. 1788 01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:19,100 It's not the sharing 1789 01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:20,227 that frightens me. 1790 01:13:20,251 --> 01:13:22,000 It's the anger of terre'blanche 1791 01:13:22,100 --> 01:13:22,976 and his people. 1792 01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:24,100 You've read the reports. 1793 01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:26,876 This could lead to civil war, 1794 01:13:26,900 --> 01:13:29,676 Frederik... white against white, 1795 01:13:29,700 --> 01:13:30,676 brother against brother. 1796 01:13:30,700 --> 01:13:31,740 There is only one possible 1797 01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:32,777 country for both the blacks and 1798 01:13:32,801 --> 01:13:34,627 the whites of South Africa, 1799 01:13:34,651 --> 01:13:36,476 and that is the future. 1800 01:13:36,500 --> 01:13:37,476 The future is where we live 1801 01:13:37,500 --> 01:13:38,477 from now on, and we have to 1802 01:13:38,501 --> 01:13:39,577 accustom ourselves to that 1803 01:13:39,601 --> 01:13:41,377 thought, or prepare ourselves 1804 01:13:41,401 --> 01:13:43,176 for a war without an end. 1805 01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:45,076 We've fought before. 1806 01:13:45,100 --> 01:13:46,077 We fought the English. 1807 01:13:46,101 --> 01:13:47,076 And we lost. 1808 01:13:47,100 --> 01:13:48,076 We have to learn 1809 01:13:48,100 --> 01:13:48,976 from our history. 1810 01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:50,000 The past no longer works, 1811 01:13:50,100 --> 01:13:52,900 the present isn't any better. 1812 01:13:54,900 --> 01:13:57,576 Have faith in me, marike. 1813 01:13:57,600 --> 01:13:58,577 I am trying to save 1814 01:13:58,601 --> 01:14:00,376 our country. 1815 01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:01,476 I won't give our fathers' 1816 01:14:01,500 --> 01:14:03,376 legacies away. 1817 01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:06,176 Marike. 1818 01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:07,176 Mr. President, 1819 01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:08,276 there are suggestions, sir, 1820 01:14:08,300 --> 01:14:09,976 that elements of the 1821 01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:10,976 intelligence community 1822 01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:11,876 and the army are directly 1823 01:14:11,900 --> 01:14:12,877 involved in fomenting 1824 01:14:12,901 --> 01:14:13,876 violence among the blacks. 1825 01:14:13,900 --> 01:14:14,976 That is a vicious rumor 1826 01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:16,876 without any basis in reality. 1827 01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:19,577 I'll tell you unequivocally 1828 01:14:19,601 --> 01:14:20,776 there are no secret government 1829 01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:22,627 agencies connected in any way 1830 01:14:22,651 --> 01:14:24,477 with any of these incidents. 1831 01:14:24,501 --> 01:14:26,500 You have my word on that. 1832 01:14:36,100 --> 01:14:38,976 How do you expect 1833 01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:40,776 me to take these talks 1834 01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:43,576 seriously when people in your 1835 01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:44,576 government have armed 1836 01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:45,676 the ink at ha freedom party 1837 01:14:45,700 --> 01:14:47,476 in kwazulu-natal? 1838 01:14:47,500 --> 01:14:50,276 That is absolute nonsense. 1839 01:14:50,300 --> 01:14:51,376 To what purpose? 1840 01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:53,276 To neutralize the a.N.C... 1841 01:14:53,300 --> 01:14:54,276 What else? 1842 01:14:54,300 --> 01:14:55,976 By intimidation and 1843 01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:57,076 assassination, your people have 1844 01:14:57,100 --> 01:14:59,027 given ink at ha carte blanche 1845 01:14:59,051 --> 01:15:00,776 to create havoc. 1846 01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:01,800 Chief buthelezi has the 1847 01:15:01,900 --> 01:15:02,876 overwhelming support of 1848 01:15:02,900 --> 01:15:03,776 the majority of people 1849 01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:04,776 in his province. 1850 01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:05,777 He doesn't need me to whip up 1851 01:15:05,801 --> 01:15:07,576 support for him. 1852 01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:10,376 Then how do they have 1853 01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:12,276 so many guns? 1854 01:15:12,300 --> 01:15:13,300 How does the a.N.C.? 1855 01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:15,176 Certainly not supplied 1856 01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:16,276 by your government. 1857 01:15:16,300 --> 01:15:18,076 Damn you, Mr. Mandela. 1858 01:15:18,100 --> 01:15:19,077 You give a person so little 1859 01:15:19,101 --> 01:15:20,177 room to maneuver. 1860 01:15:20,201 --> 01:15:22,876 I have had very little room 1861 01:15:22,900 --> 01:15:23,877 to maneuver myself 1862 01:15:23,901 --> 01:15:25,700 for two decades. 1863 01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:27,776 One learns to adapt. 1864 01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:28,777 Those are hardly the words 1865 01:15:28,801 --> 01:15:30,600 one expects from a retired 1866 01:15:30,700 --> 01:15:32,476 revolutionary. 1867 01:15:32,500 --> 01:15:34,376 Mr. President, if you expect 1868 01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:36,276 me to go out to pasture 1869 01:15:36,300 --> 01:15:37,277 upon my release... 1870 01:15:37,301 --> 01:15:38,376 Whenever that is... 1871 01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:42,176 You are greatly mistaken. 1872 01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:43,976 If I find conditions are 1873 01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:45,976 the same as they were the day 1874 01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:48,776 I was arrested, I will go back 1875 01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:50,777 to doing precisely those things 1876 01:15:50,801 --> 01:15:52,800 for which I was imprisoned. 1877 01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:57,576 Now, that helps no one. 1878 01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:01,276 Then UN-ban the a.N.C. 1879 01:16:01,300 --> 01:16:03,276 And all other political parties 1880 01:16:03,300 --> 01:16:05,176 on your banning list. 1881 01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:07,976 Release the political prisoners 1882 01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,976 and allow the exiles to return. 1883 01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:13,776 Mr. Mandela, I will take 1884 01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:14,876 everything that you have said 1885 01:16:14,900 --> 01:16:16,576 under advisement. 1886 01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:18,476 I know. 1887 01:16:18,500 --> 01:16:20,376 No promises. 1888 01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:21,576 I have ordered 1889 01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:23,376 that the prohibition of the 1890 01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:25,176 African national congress, 1891 01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:27,076 the pan-African congress, 1892 01:16:27,100 --> 01:16:28,176 the South African communist 1893 01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:30,076 party and 33 other 1894 01:16:30,100 --> 01:16:31,100 organizations, be lifted 1895 01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:32,976 with immediate effect. 1896 01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:35,876 As to the position of 1897 01:16:35,900 --> 01:16:38,676 Nelson Mandela, I will make 1898 01:16:38,700 --> 01:16:39,576 an announcement within 1899 01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:40,676 the next few days concerning 1900 01:16:40,700 --> 01:16:42,476 the date of his release. 1901 01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:50,176 It is very important to me 1902 01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:51,177 that discussions with 1903 01:16:51,201 --> 01:16:52,976 the a.N.C. Begin at once. 1904 01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:54,900 Our troubles have caused US 1905 01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:55,977 enough pain and suffering. 1906 01:16:56,001 --> 01:16:58,776 The time for negotiation 1907 01:16:58,800 --> 01:16:59,800 has arrived. 1908 01:17:03,700 --> 01:17:05,476 I can't very well carry on 1909 01:17:05,500 --> 01:17:06,576 important negotiations like 1910 01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:08,476 these with an inmate, can I? 1911 01:17:08,500 --> 01:17:10,276 Release me? But... 1912 01:17:10,300 --> 01:17:11,276 I mean, when? 1913 01:17:11,300 --> 01:17:12,276 Tomorrow. 1914 01:17:12,300 --> 01:17:13,277 Mr. President, 1915 01:17:13,301 --> 01:17:15,176 tomorrow is much too soon. 1916 01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:17,976 Please, delay my release. 1917 01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:19,876 I beg your pardon? 1918 01:17:19,900 --> 01:17:20,977 I don't want to appear 1919 01:17:21,001 --> 01:17:22,700 ungrateful, Mr. President, 1920 01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:23,777 but I must insist that you 1921 01:17:23,801 --> 01:17:25,877 delay any plans for my release. 1922 01:17:25,901 --> 01:17:28,476 You're joking, of course. 1923 01:17:28,500 --> 01:17:30,376 I need seven days 1924 01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:32,300 so my family can prepare 1925 01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:33,377 for my release. 1926 01:17:33,401 --> 01:17:35,276 There will be chaos out there 1927 01:17:35,300 --> 01:17:37,176 if I simply walk out. 1928 01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:38,077 Damn it, man, 1929 01:17:38,101 --> 01:17:39,176 I'm freeing you! 1930 01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:42,876 I've waited 27 years. 1931 01:17:42,900 --> 01:17:43,976 Certainly I can wait 1932 01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:45,876 seven more days. 1933 01:17:45,900 --> 01:17:47,676 A government plane will 1934 01:17:47,700 --> 01:17:49,576 take you back to Johannesburg, 1935 01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:50,640 where you'll be officially 1936 01:17:50,700 --> 01:17:52,476 released. 1937 01:17:52,500 --> 01:17:54,576 Please sit down, Mr. Mandela. 1938 01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:57,276 Mr. President... 1939 01:17:57,300 --> 01:17:59,176 I will walk out of the gates 1940 01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:00,276 of Victor verster prison 1941 01:18:00,300 --> 01:18:02,176 in seven days. 1942 01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:04,076 And on that date, I will 1943 01:18:04,100 --> 01:18:05,876 personally thank all those 1944 01:18:05,900 --> 01:18:07,776 who have looked after me. 1945 01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:09,776 And I will greet the people 1946 01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:10,777 of Cape Town. 1947 01:18:10,801 --> 01:18:11,876 Look here, Mr. Mandela. 1948 01:18:11,900 --> 01:18:13,576 We have already set 1949 01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:14,577 your itinerary... 1950 01:18:14,601 --> 01:18:15,677 Mr. President... 1951 01:18:15,701 --> 01:18:18,376 Cape Town has been my home 1952 01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:20,276 for nearly 30 years. 1953 01:18:20,300 --> 01:18:21,460 There are people in Cape Town 1954 01:18:21,500 --> 01:18:23,176 I must... 1955 01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:24,177 But we have a schedule. 1956 01:18:24,201 --> 01:18:26,176 Yes, Johannesburg. 1957 01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:28,076 Well, I will make my own way 1958 01:18:28,100 --> 01:18:29,876 back there when I choose, 1959 01:18:29,900 --> 01:18:30,877 not when the government 1960 01:18:30,901 --> 01:18:31,976 wants me to. 1961 01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:33,876 Once I am free, I will look 1962 01:18:33,900 --> 01:18:35,676 after myself. 1963 01:18:35,700 --> 01:18:37,700 Mr. Mandela, we can't change 1964 01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:39,476 plans now. 1965 01:18:39,500 --> 01:18:41,376 I've already told the press. 1966 01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:44,376 How dare you speak to the 1967 01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:46,277 press without consulting me? 1968 01:18:46,301 --> 01:18:48,076 I'm the president, not you! 1969 01:18:48,100 --> 01:18:50,076 I will be released 1970 01:18:50,100 --> 01:18:51,976 when I say so... 1971 01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:53,976 And not a day sooner! 1972 01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:55,876 Uh, Mr. President? 1973 01:18:55,900 --> 01:18:58,900 Maybe we... 1974 01:19:07,300 --> 01:19:09,176 All right, then. 1975 01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:12,076 I will agree to Victor verster 1976 01:19:12,100 --> 01:19:13,176 if you will agree 1977 01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:16,000 to release tomorrow. 1978 01:19:22,700 --> 01:19:25,600 I can accept that. 1979 01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:36,976 Mr. Mandela, must you 1980 01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:38,976 fight me on every issue? 1981 01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:41,900 Must you, Mr. President? 1982 01:19:43,700 --> 01:19:44,700 Hurry up, everybody. 1983 01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:46,576 We are running late. 1984 01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:48,576 Okay, the press will be 1985 01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:50,376 waiting at the gate for you. 1986 01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:52,476 Sabc-TV has asked that you 1987 01:19:52,500 --> 01:19:54,276 leave the car 100 feet 1988 01:19:54,300 --> 01:19:55,176 from the gate 1989 01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:56,240 and walk through the gate. 1990 01:19:56,300 --> 01:19:57,200 Is that what they call 1991 01:19:57,300 --> 01:19:58,277 a photo opportunity? 1992 01:19:58,301 --> 01:20:01,100 You are learning fast. 1993 01:20:08,700 --> 01:20:11,476 I've known no other great men 1994 01:20:11,500 --> 01:20:14,500 in my life, Mr. Mandela, but... 1995 01:20:18,300 --> 01:20:20,376 You know what I want to say. 1996 01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:23,976 Thank you for your many 1997 01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:25,976 kindnesses through the years. 1998 01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:29,000 I know we will meet again. 1999 01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:51,076 We can see 2000 01:20:51,100 --> 01:20:52,876 the caravan almost 2001 01:20:52,900 --> 01:20:53,877 approaching the gates now. 2002 01:20:53,901 --> 01:20:55,600 Yes. Yes, the crowd is 2003 01:20:55,700 --> 01:20:56,576 beginning to push forward. 2004 01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:57,577 They've waited many hours 2005 01:20:57,601 --> 01:20:58,677 for this moment, and the 2006 01:20:58,701 --> 01:21:00,577 world has waited many years. 2007 01:21:00,601 --> 01:21:02,376 Nelson Mandela will walk 2008 01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:03,476 through these gates 2009 01:21:03,500 --> 01:21:05,176 of Victor verster prison 2010 01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:07,200 to freedom. 2011 01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:19,576 My god, so many people. 2012 01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:21,476 They love you, Nelson. 2013 01:21:21,500 --> 01:21:23,500 I never realized. 2014 01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:34,177 He's walking 2015 01:21:34,201 --> 01:21:35,876 towards the car... the car that 2016 01:21:35,900 --> 01:21:36,900 will probably take him 2017 01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:39,876 to Cape Town. 2018 01:21:39,900 --> 01:21:41,876 Mr. Mandela, leaving... 2019 01:21:41,900 --> 01:21:43,676 Finally leaving the 2020 01:21:43,700 --> 01:21:45,576 Victor verster prison... 2021 01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:46,600 His home for the last 2022 01:21:46,700 --> 01:21:48,476 40 months. 2023 01:21:48,500 --> 01:21:49,500 And in 2024 01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:51,376 Cape Town, huge crowds... 2025 01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:52,377 Waiting in the exhausting 2026 01:21:52,401 --> 01:21:54,276 summer sun all day for 2027 01:21:54,300 --> 01:21:56,100 Mr. Mandela's first words 2028 01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:57,177 to the world at a rally... 2029 01:21:57,201 --> 01:21:58,876 Were growing restless. 2030 01:21:58,900 --> 01:22:02,876 A.N.C.! A.N.C.! A.N.C.! 2031 01:22:15,300 --> 01:22:16,377 "I will not give our 2032 01:22:16,401 --> 01:22:19,076 fathers' legacies away." 2033 01:22:19,100 --> 01:22:21,076 Oh, Frederik... Where are 2034 01:22:21,100 --> 01:22:22,876 the crowds for you now... 2035 01:22:22,900 --> 01:22:23,976 The man who opened up 2036 01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:26,776 this brave new era, 2037 01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:30,000 the man who freed Mandela? 2038 01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:38,200 A remarkable scene today 2039 01:22:38,300 --> 01:22:39,177 at jan smuts international 2040 01:22:39,201 --> 01:22:41,076 airport as Oliver Tambo, 2041 01:22:41,100 --> 01:22:42,176 head of the formerly outlawed 2042 01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:43,976 African national congress, 2043 01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:45,000 returned to South Africa 2044 01:22:45,100 --> 01:22:47,027 after nearly 30 years in exile. 2045 01:22:47,051 --> 01:22:48,776 Among those gathered to meet 2046 01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:49,777 him were close colleagues 2047 01:22:49,801 --> 01:22:51,776 Nelson Mandela, Walter Sisulu, 2048 01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:52,777 Joe slovo of the South African 2049 01:22:52,801 --> 01:22:54,576 communist party, 2050 01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:55,627 and Chris hani. 2051 01:22:55,651 --> 01:22:57,477 Speculation is that talks will 2052 01:22:57,501 --> 01:22:59,376 now move swiftly head on 2053 01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:00,376 a negotiated settlement 2054 01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:01,376 between the government and 2055 01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:02,377 the leaders of black 2056 01:23:02,401 --> 01:23:04,176 political organizations. 2057 01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:05,177 But, for most of the people 2058 01:23:05,201 --> 01:23:07,076 around the world, two men 2059 01:23:07,100 --> 01:23:08,077 will hold center stage... 2060 01:23:08,101 --> 01:23:09,976 President f.W. De Klerk 2061 01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:11,776 and Nelson Mandela. 2062 01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:12,900 Good beginning. 2063 01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:14,776 But only a beginning. 2064 01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:18,576 More than 500 blacks have 2065 01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:19,676 died so far, and more blood 2066 01:23:19,700 --> 01:23:21,376 was shed this morning in 2067 01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:22,476 a township near Johannesburg. 2068 01:23:22,500 --> 01:23:23,477 The violence started after 2069 01:23:23,501 --> 01:23:25,200 a rally addressed by the 2070 01:23:25,300 --> 01:23:26,176 ink at ha leader, 2071 01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:27,176 chief buthelezi. 2072 01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:28,076 Second newscaster: 2073 01:23:28,100 --> 01:23:29,077 The casualty rate is climbing 2074 01:23:29,101 --> 01:23:30,076 faster than ever. 2075 01:23:30,100 --> 01:23:31,077 100 killed today, over 500 2076 01:23:31,101 --> 01:23:33,000 in the past ten days. 2077 01:23:42,500 --> 01:23:44,376 Lies. 2078 01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:45,476 Lies. We would not kill 2079 01:23:45,500 --> 01:23:47,276 our own people. 2080 01:23:47,300 --> 01:23:48,276 There were no whites 2081 01:23:48,300 --> 01:23:49,176 present. 2082 01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:50,276 It was blacks killing blacks. 2083 01:23:50,300 --> 01:23:52,076 The evidence is clear. 2084 01:23:52,100 --> 01:23:54,176 No, not clear. Obscured. 2085 01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:55,876 The investigation clearly 2086 01:23:55,900 --> 01:23:56,900 shows that the a.N.C. 2087 01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:57,977 Was behind it. 2088 01:23:58,001 --> 01:23:59,027 You sent the fox 2089 01:23:59,051 --> 01:24:00,776 to investigate the chickens. 2090 01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:02,776 For god's sake, Mr. Mandela, 2091 01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:04,576 what would we possibly gain 2092 01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:05,476 from massacring 2093 01:24:05,500 --> 01:24:06,500 innocent people? 2094 01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:08,376 You have much to gain. 2095 01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:09,476 The more fear you sow amongst 2096 01:24:09,500 --> 01:24:10,577 the people, the more votes you 2097 01:24:10,601 --> 01:24:13,176 might gain in the elections. 2098 01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:16,076 The election? 2099 01:24:16,100 --> 01:24:17,177 We don't even have a date 2100 01:24:17,201 --> 01:24:18,900 for any election. 2101 01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:19,977 Elections are coming, 2102 01:24:20,001 --> 01:24:22,876 Mr. President, as we both know. 2103 01:24:22,900 --> 01:24:25,676 And either you, or members of 2104 01:24:25,700 --> 01:24:26,777 your security establishment, 2105 01:24:26,801 --> 01:24:28,576 are manipulating events. 2106 01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:31,376 Manipulating events? Why? 2107 01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:33,276 To affect the outcome 2108 01:24:33,300 --> 01:24:35,276 of those elections. 2109 01:24:35,300 --> 01:24:36,277 This is complete nonsense, 2110 01:24:36,301 --> 01:24:38,276 Mr. Mandela. 2111 01:24:38,300 --> 01:24:41,176 All right. 2112 01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:42,976 Appoint an independent 2113 01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:44,876 commission to investigate 2114 01:24:44,900 --> 01:24:46,876 the massacre at boipatong. 2115 01:24:46,900 --> 01:24:50,800 I will abide by their findings. 2116 01:24:52,500 --> 01:24:54,376 And if I don't? 2117 01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:57,276 You will leave US no choice 2118 01:24:57,300 --> 01:24:58,376 but to resume 2119 01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:00,376 the armed struggle. 2120 01:25:05,900 --> 01:25:06,976 Madiba! 2121 01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:08,976 Untie our hands! 2122 01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:10,876 Listen to me! 2123 01:25:10,900 --> 01:25:13,576 Listen! 2124 01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:15,576 We have guns, too! 2125 01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:17,500 Our enemies need to know that! 2126 01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:23,176 Wait a minute. 2127 01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:26,076 Now, the a.N.C... 2128 01:25:27,101 --> 01:25:29,876 Wait a minute! 2129 01:25:29,900 --> 01:25:33,876 The a.N.C... We have... 2130 01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:39,727 Wait a minute. 2131 01:25:39,751 --> 01:25:42,576 Hold it. We must... 2132 01:25:44,300 --> 01:25:45,277 Listen to me! 2133 01:25:45,301 --> 01:25:46,376 Listen to me! 2134 01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:49,176 Yes, we are angry, 2135 01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:51,076 and we are full of rage. 2136 01:25:51,100 --> 01:25:53,976 And we have every right to be! 2137 01:25:56,900 --> 01:25:59,676 But if I am to pick up my gun 2138 01:25:59,700 --> 01:26:01,777 and pull the trigger, I want to 2139 01:26:01,801 --> 01:26:03,476 be damn sure I'm aiming 2140 01:26:03,500 --> 01:26:04,577 at the right target! 2141 01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:11,200 Kobie. 2142 01:26:11,300 --> 01:26:13,176 Hmm? Ah. As you requested, 2143 01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:14,976 Mr. President... the results 2144 01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:15,977 of the independent British 2145 01:26:16,001 --> 01:26:17,077 investigation. 2146 01:26:17,101 --> 01:26:18,776 And? 2147 01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:19,800 It confirmed the a.N.C.'S 2148 01:26:19,900 --> 01:26:20,877 allegations, sir. 2149 01:26:20,901 --> 01:26:23,576 The police apparently escorted 2150 01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:24,776 the attackers into the township 2151 01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:26,576 and then back out again. 2152 01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:30,276 The police? 2153 01:26:30,300 --> 01:26:32,376 I... I can't believe that 2154 01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:34,100 the police would... 2155 01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:36,076 The reports are consistent. 2156 01:26:36,100 --> 01:26:37,976 There were 39 people shot, 2157 01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:40,876 hacked, and stabbed to death... 2158 01:26:40,900 --> 01:26:41,876 Among them a nine-month-old 2159 01:26:41,900 --> 01:26:42,877 baby, a four-year old girl, 2160 01:26:42,901 --> 01:26:45,776 and 24 women, one of whom 2161 01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:47,676 was pregnant. 2162 01:26:47,700 --> 01:26:48,777 Of the survivors, nobody would 2163 01:26:48,801 --> 01:26:50,476 talk to the police. 2164 01:26:50,500 --> 01:26:51,376 They are convinced that 2165 01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:52,576 the authorities were involved. 2166 01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:55,276 So, the a.N.C. 2167 01:26:55,300 --> 01:26:58,076 Is not to blame. 2168 01:26:58,100 --> 01:27:00,076 Mandela was right. 2169 01:27:00,100 --> 01:27:02,200 We are responsible. 2170 01:27:09,700 --> 01:27:11,576 I'm going to the township. 2171 01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:12,476 The township? 2172 01:27:12,500 --> 01:27:13,500 I want them to know that 2173 01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:14,476 I care. 2174 01:27:14,500 --> 01:27:15,476 That's not a good idea. 2175 01:27:15,500 --> 01:27:16,576 There's too much at stake... 2176 01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:18,276 The talks, my presidency. 2177 01:27:18,300 --> 01:27:19,276 Sir... 2178 01:27:19,300 --> 01:27:20,277 I am the president 2179 01:27:20,301 --> 01:27:22,076 of South Africa. 2180 01:27:22,100 --> 01:27:23,100 I have to be there. 2181 01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:43,176 It's no use, Mr. President. 2182 01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:46,076 We have to get out. 2183 01:27:46,100 --> 01:27:48,100 Driver. 2184 01:27:53,900 --> 01:27:54,877 I've been a member of 2185 01:27:54,901 --> 01:27:57,676 the South African police force 2186 01:27:57,700 --> 01:28:00,676 for ten years. 2187 01:28:00,700 --> 01:28:03,476 For five years, I've attached 2188 01:28:03,500 --> 01:28:05,376 to a secret organization 2189 01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:07,276 inside the police force... 2190 01:28:07,300 --> 01:28:11,176 The c-10 unit. 2191 01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:14,876 We were a hit squad. 2192 01:28:14,900 --> 01:28:17,676 Our job was to spy on civilian 2193 01:28:17,700 --> 01:28:19,800 enemies of the state 2194 01:28:19,900 --> 01:28:22,476 and to commit assassinations 2195 01:28:22,500 --> 01:28:23,576 when ordered. 2196 01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:27,276 We delivered money, arms, 2197 01:28:27,300 --> 01:28:29,276 to buthelezi's ink at ha freedom 2198 01:28:29,300 --> 01:28:32,076 party, for them to use 2199 01:28:32,100 --> 01:28:34,100 against the a.N.C. 2200 01:28:36,100 --> 01:28:39,776 We were told that our orders 2201 01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:40,876 were cleared by top 2202 01:28:40,900 --> 01:28:42,776 government people. 2203 01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:44,676 I tell you, I knew nothing. 2204 01:28:44,700 --> 01:28:46,676 Don't tell me that. 2205 01:28:46,700 --> 01:28:48,576 No leader of a nation can claim 2206 01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:50,376 that sort of ignorance. 2207 01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:51,476 My political career is 2208 01:28:51,500 --> 01:28:53,376 staked entire on our success, 2209 01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:55,176 Mr. Mandela. 2210 01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:57,000 Why would I allow something 2211 01:28:57,100 --> 01:28:58,077 like this to proceed if I... 2212 01:28:58,101 --> 01:28:59,176 You chose to see 2213 01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:00,876 what you wanted to... 2214 01:29:00,900 --> 01:29:01,877 Who are you to accuse me? 2215 01:29:01,901 --> 01:29:03,776 I have been honest with you... 2216 01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:04,676 You turned away from that 2217 01:29:04,700 --> 01:29:05,677 which you did not want... 2218 01:29:05,701 --> 01:29:06,776 I've staked my career on the 2219 01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:08,600 success of these negotiations. 2220 01:29:08,700 --> 01:29:10,476 Now you tell me... 2221 01:29:10,500 --> 01:29:11,476 And when it was convenient, 2222 01:29:11,500 --> 01:29:12,477 simply forgot everything 2223 01:29:12,501 --> 01:29:14,276 in between. 2224 01:29:14,300 --> 01:29:16,300 That is true, isn't it? 2225 01:29:20,100 --> 01:29:21,077 Think what you will, 2226 01:29:21,101 --> 01:29:23,876 Mr. Mandela. 2227 01:29:23,900 --> 01:29:25,876 But I am still the president 2228 01:29:25,900 --> 01:29:28,676 of South Africa, and I am 2229 01:29:28,700 --> 01:29:30,576 the one who will determine 2230 01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:32,576 both of our futures. 2231 01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:35,376 You will determine nothing, 2232 01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:37,500 Mr. President. 2233 01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:41,276 Any leader who chooses to 2234 01:29:41,300 --> 01:29:43,976 remain blind when vision is 2235 01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:45,076 what our nation needs 2236 01:29:45,100 --> 01:29:48,000 is a lost man. 2237 01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:53,776 A lost man can never lead 2238 01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:55,800 anywhere. 2239 01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:14,676 So what happens now? 2240 01:30:14,700 --> 01:30:15,876 In a few days, there will be 2241 01:30:15,900 --> 01:30:18,576 the usual exchanges of 2242 01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:19,677 communique and notes between 2243 01:30:19,701 --> 01:30:22,500 between our intermediaries. 2244 01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:28,276 De Klerk and I will engage in 2245 01:30:28,300 --> 01:30:30,076 long-distance name-calling 2246 01:30:30,100 --> 01:30:31,176 in the press, and after that, 2247 01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:33,076 god only knows. 2248 01:30:33,100 --> 01:30:35,776 In the meantime, perhaps you 2249 01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:36,876 and I can find some time for 2250 01:30:36,900 --> 01:30:38,776 ourselves at last. 2251 01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:40,800 What is it, winnie? 2252 01:30:43,500 --> 01:30:46,476 These came today. 2253 01:30:46,500 --> 01:30:48,276 They are charging me with 2254 01:30:48,300 --> 01:30:49,400 kidnapping and assault 2255 01:30:49,500 --> 01:30:52,300 of stompie seipei. 2256 01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:55,976 Walter, you know 2257 01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:57,077 what this case is about. 2258 01:30:57,101 --> 01:30:59,776 It is an election ploy. 2259 01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:01,727 By prosecuting her, they hope 2260 01:31:01,751 --> 01:31:02,776 to do damage to me. 2261 01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:04,576 Why do you think the government 2262 01:31:04,600 --> 01:31:05,776 waited so long before they 2263 01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:07,476 brought her to court? 2264 01:31:07,500 --> 01:31:08,577 It's a pity she's given them 2265 01:31:08,601 --> 01:31:10,300 so many opportunities. 2266 01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:12,276 Walter, we are all friends, 2267 01:31:12,300 --> 01:31:13,376 but there is a line. 2268 01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:15,176 Even within the a.N.C., 2269 01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:16,177 there are those people... 2270 01:31:16,201 --> 01:31:17,976 You image I care what 2271 01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:19,176 people think? 2272 01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:22,076 She is my wife and the mother 2273 01:31:22,100 --> 01:31:23,876 of my daughters. 2274 01:31:23,900 --> 01:31:26,676 She has supported me 2275 01:31:26,700 --> 01:31:29,476 faithfully for 30 years. 2276 01:31:29,500 --> 01:31:31,576 I will not abandon her now. 2277 01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:34,376 Madiba, you are the father 2278 01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:37,176 of the nation, a symbol 2279 01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:38,300 to the entire world. 2280 01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:40,976 Our country's in turmoil, 2281 01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:41,977 and the success of our 2282 01:31:42,001 --> 01:31:43,977 negotiations hangs by a thread. 2283 01:31:44,001 --> 01:31:49,000 I will be faithful to her. 2284 01:31:54,500 --> 01:31:56,476 Madiba, I hadn't meant 2285 01:31:56,500 --> 01:31:58,376 to raise this, 2286 01:31:58,400 --> 01:31:59,400 but there's a letter. 2287 01:31:59,500 --> 01:32:03,176 Winnie wrote it. 2288 01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:06,076 A letter? 2289 01:32:06,100 --> 01:32:07,876 From winnie? 2290 01:32:07,900 --> 01:32:09,776 In her own handwriting. 2291 01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:11,776 The press, I'm afraid, 2292 01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:13,576 have copies. 2293 01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:14,577 I've persuaded them not to 2294 01:32:14,601 --> 01:32:15,676 print it before the trial 2295 01:32:15,700 --> 01:32:16,677 is over. 2296 01:32:16,701 --> 01:32:19,476 More than that I could not do. 2297 01:32:19,500 --> 01:32:21,276 In finding Mrs. Mandela 2298 01:32:21,300 --> 01:32:22,400 guilty of kidnapping and 2299 01:32:22,500 --> 01:32:24,176 assaulting 14-year-old 2300 01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:26,076 stompie seipei, the judge 2301 01:32:26,100 --> 01:32:27,276 stressed that no connection 2302 01:32:27,300 --> 01:32:28,976 has been established between 2303 01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:30,077 the accused and the death 2304 01:32:30,101 --> 01:32:31,876 of the young boy. 2305 01:32:31,900 --> 01:32:32,977 Stompie was allegedly killed 2306 01:32:33,001 --> 01:32:34,877 by members of a football team 2307 01:32:34,901 --> 01:32:36,776 sponsored by Mrs. Mandela, 2308 01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:38,576 some of whom also acted 2309 01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:39,677 as her bodyguards. 2310 01:32:39,701 --> 01:32:41,476 The police still have not 2311 01:32:41,500 --> 01:32:42,576 been able to establish 2312 01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:44,376 a motive for the murder 2313 01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:46,276 of the young activist. 2314 01:32:46,300 --> 01:32:48,276 Suzanne baez, sabc-TV news, 2315 01:32:48,300 --> 01:32:49,327 Johannesburg. 2316 01:32:49,351 --> 01:32:50,976 They think they have 2317 01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:52,076 beaten me. 2318 01:32:52,100 --> 01:32:53,876 I will take their verdict 2319 01:32:53,900 --> 01:32:55,776 to the appellate division. 2320 01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:57,900 I have been here before. 2321 01:32:58,000 --> 01:32:59,776 Winnie, you are facing 2322 01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:01,676 six years in prison. 2323 01:33:01,700 --> 01:33:03,476 Who are they to judge me? 2324 01:33:03,500 --> 01:33:07,376 I held on so tightly to 2325 01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:09,327 the belief in your innocence. 2326 01:33:09,351 --> 01:33:11,176 And you can continue. 2327 01:33:11,200 --> 01:33:14,176 Stompie made his choice. 2328 01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:15,177 I could not have saved him. 2329 01:33:15,201 --> 01:33:16,976 No one could. 2330 01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:19,776 I didn't even consider 2331 01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:20,900 the alternatives. 2332 01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:23,676 Stompie was a traitor. 2333 01:33:23,700 --> 01:33:25,600 No one could have saved him, 2334 01:33:25,700 --> 01:33:26,677 Nelson. 2335 01:33:26,701 --> 01:33:28,476 No one could. 2336 01:33:28,500 --> 01:33:32,276 We were at war. 2337 01:33:32,300 --> 01:33:34,500 With children? 2338 01:33:36,200 --> 01:33:39,976 So, I am to be sacrificed? 2339 01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:42,000 Madiba... 2340 01:33:48,700 --> 01:33:50,576 I love you. How could you... 2341 01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:54,276 Oh... don't say those words 2342 01:33:54,300 --> 01:33:58,276 to me, winnie, not now. 2343 01:33:58,300 --> 01:34:01,176 Don't use that word 2344 01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:03,000 to describe what our 2345 01:34:03,100 --> 01:34:04,077 relationship has been since 2346 01:34:04,101 --> 01:34:06,876 I was released from prison. 2347 01:34:06,900 --> 01:34:09,676 This is the early edition 2348 01:34:09,700 --> 01:34:12,676 of tomorrow's newspaper. 2349 01:34:12,700 --> 01:34:15,376 Did you think I didn't know? 2350 01:34:15,400 --> 01:34:18,276 That I couldn't guess? 2351 01:34:18,300 --> 01:34:20,276 Was he just one more lapse of 2352 01:34:20,300 --> 01:34:24,200 judgment, or were there others? 2353 01:34:27,100 --> 01:34:30,776 So... 2354 01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:32,776 Will you leave... 2355 01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:35,700 Or shall I? 2356 01:34:39,400 --> 01:34:41,276 This is your home. 2357 01:34:41,300 --> 01:34:43,176 I will leave. 2358 01:34:43,200 --> 01:34:44,376 We will make a simple 2359 01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:47,076 announcement. 2360 01:34:47,100 --> 01:34:49,976 We will salvage what dignity 2361 01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:51,876 we can. 2362 01:34:51,900 --> 01:34:54,776 Why must you do this? 2363 01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:58,776 Because every cell in my 2364 01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:03,700 body tells me not to. 2365 01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:41,776 A a a a ah! 2366 01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:42,776 The violence happened on 2367 01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:43,776 a day of mourning for the 2368 01:35:43,800 --> 01:35:44,676 assassinated black leader 2369 01:35:44,700 --> 01:35:45,677 Chris hani. 2370 01:35:45,701 --> 01:35:46,777 Demonstrators converged on 2371 01:35:46,801 --> 01:35:48,400 one of soweto's main 2372 01:35:48,500 --> 01:35:50,476 police stations. 2373 01:35:50,500 --> 01:35:52,276 The police opened fire 2374 01:35:52,300 --> 01:35:53,277 on the crowd. 2375 01:35:53,301 --> 01:35:55,276 Three people died instantly. 2376 01:35:55,300 --> 01:35:58,976 Is that the peace? 2377 01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:00,076 How should we 2378 01:36:00,100 --> 01:36:02,876 convince people that... 2379 01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:07,877 I'm aware that there is 2380 01:36:07,901 --> 01:36:09,676 little trust between US, 2381 01:36:09,700 --> 01:36:12,476 Mr. Mandela. 2382 01:36:12,500 --> 01:36:14,376 You must know that the country 2383 01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:15,477 is in danger of blowing up 2384 01:36:15,501 --> 01:36:17,276 in both our faces. 2385 01:36:17,300 --> 01:36:20,300 What do you want from me? 2386 01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:25,876 Hani's assassination has 2387 01:36:25,900 --> 01:36:26,977 brought US to the bring of 2388 01:36:27,001 --> 01:36:28,776 a race war. 2389 01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:30,676 I can't stop it. 2390 01:36:30,700 --> 01:36:32,576 The people... the blacks... 2391 01:36:32,600 --> 01:36:35,376 They won't listen to US. 2392 01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:37,476 I'm asking you to use 2393 01:36:37,500 --> 01:36:40,276 all your skills. 2394 01:36:40,300 --> 01:36:42,276 Say something. 2395 01:36:42,300 --> 01:36:44,176 Talk to your people... 2396 01:36:44,200 --> 01:36:46,976 Our people. 2397 01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:49,776 Calm the situation. 2398 01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:50,777 You're a leader. 2399 01:36:50,801 --> 01:36:51,876 You have a responsibility to... 2400 01:36:51,900 --> 01:36:57,476 How dare you say that to me? 2401 01:36:57,500 --> 01:37:01,276 You, who coddled ink at ha. 2402 01:37:01,300 --> 01:37:03,376 You, who ignored the corruption 2403 01:37:03,400 --> 01:37:05,327 and venality in your security 2404 01:37:05,351 --> 01:37:08,076 forces, and pleaded ignorance 2405 01:37:08,100 --> 01:37:09,976 at the complicity of 2406 01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:12,076 the police force in all of 2407 01:37:12,100 --> 01:37:14,776 the political murders 2408 01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:17,576 throughout our country. 2409 01:37:17,600 --> 01:37:21,576 And now, when your credibility 2410 01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:22,577 has been destroyed, 2411 01:37:22,601 --> 01:37:25,400 you come to me. 2412 01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:29,176 Think of me what you will, 2413 01:37:29,200 --> 01:37:32,076 Mr. Mandela, but I love this 2414 01:37:32,100 --> 01:37:35,076 country as deeply as you do. 2415 01:37:35,100 --> 01:37:39,676 This is my home, too. 2416 01:37:39,700 --> 01:37:44,476 The elections are not far away. 2417 01:37:44,500 --> 01:37:45,576 I'm asking you to help me 2418 01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:48,276 preserve what we have built 2419 01:37:48,300 --> 01:37:50,300 until then. 2420 01:37:52,300 --> 01:37:54,976 Tonight, I am 2421 01:37:55,000 --> 01:37:57,100 reaching out to each 2422 01:37:57,200 --> 01:37:58,927 and every South African... 2423 01:37:58,951 --> 01:38:00,776 Black and white... from the 2424 01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:05,576 very depths of my heart. 2425 01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:08,576 A white man... full of 2426 01:38:08,600 --> 01:38:10,376 prejudice and hate... 2427 01:38:10,400 --> 01:38:11,377 Came to our country and 2428 01:38:11,401 --> 01:38:14,176 and committed a deed so foul 2429 01:38:14,200 --> 01:38:17,076 that our whole nation totters 2430 01:38:17,100 --> 01:38:20,076 on the brink of disaster. 2431 01:38:20,100 --> 01:38:22,876 But a white woman... 2432 01:38:22,900 --> 01:38:24,800 An afrikaaner woman... 2433 01:38:24,900 --> 01:38:26,676 Memorized the license plate 2434 01:38:26,700 --> 01:38:29,576 on his car and risked her 2435 01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:31,476 life by calling the police 2436 01:38:31,500 --> 01:38:33,476 and pointing out the killer. 2437 01:38:33,500 --> 01:38:37,176 This is a watershed moment 2438 01:38:37,200 --> 01:38:39,100 for all of US. 2439 01:38:39,200 --> 01:38:42,076 We must, I believe, use our 2440 01:38:42,100 --> 01:38:44,976 pain, our grief and our 2441 01:38:45,000 --> 01:38:47,776 outrage, to move forward 2442 01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:50,676 to what is the only lasting 2443 01:38:50,700 --> 01:38:52,676 solution for our country... 2444 01:38:52,700 --> 01:38:54,576 A democratically elected 2445 01:38:54,600 --> 01:38:57,376 government, representing all 2446 01:38:57,400 --> 01:39:01,176 the people of our country. 2447 01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:04,976 In that... not more killing... 2448 01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:09,076 Lies the future of our nation. 2449 01:39:09,100 --> 01:39:10,876 And that is the legacy 2450 01:39:10,900 --> 01:39:14,576 our fallen son leaves US. 2451 01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:19,376 We dare not stain it. 2452 01:39:41,500 --> 01:39:42,476 South Africa has opened a new 2453 01:39:42,500 --> 01:39:43,576 chapter in its history. 2454 01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:45,276 For the first time, 2455 01:39:45,300 --> 01:39:46,277 18 million black men and 2456 01:39:46,301 --> 01:39:47,276 women have begun voting 2457 01:39:47,300 --> 01:39:48,277 to decide who will run 2458 01:39:48,301 --> 01:39:50,076 their country. 2459 01:39:50,100 --> 01:39:51,100 By early this morning, 2460 01:39:51,200 --> 01:39:52,076 people who'd already walked 2461 01:39:52,100 --> 01:39:53,176 miles to walk to get to 2462 01:39:53,200 --> 01:39:54,876 the polling stations were 2463 01:39:54,900 --> 01:39:55,877 snaking hundreds of yards 2464 01:39:55,901 --> 01:39:56,927 through the streets. 2465 01:39:56,951 --> 01:39:58,676 In the white suburbs, where 2466 01:39:58,700 --> 01:39:59,677 the pressure was lighter, 2467 01:39:59,701 --> 01:40:00,800 they bussed black people 2468 01:40:00,900 --> 01:40:01,777 into the township. 2469 01:40:01,801 --> 01:40:03,476 And here, too, there was 2470 01:40:03,500 --> 01:40:04,600 a great sense of joy. 2471 01:40:04,700 --> 01:40:07,376 I was very happy that 2472 01:40:07,400 --> 01:40:08,477 we're doing the right thing. 2473 01:40:08,501 --> 01:40:10,276 Indeed, it's a new 2474 01:40:10,300 --> 01:40:12,200 South Africa. 2475 01:40:47,800 --> 01:40:48,676 The latest 2476 01:40:48,700 --> 01:40:49,700 returns show that 2477 01:40:49,800 --> 01:40:50,777 Nelson Mandela, of the 2478 01:40:50,801 --> 01:40:52,400 African national congress, 2479 01:40:52,500 --> 01:40:55,376 has gained 62.6% of the vote 2480 01:40:55,400 --> 01:40:58,176 and won in an unprecedented 2481 01:40:58,200 --> 01:41:00,200 landslide. 2482 01:41:18,300 --> 01:41:20,300 Well... 2483 01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:30,000 We did it. 2484 01:41:31,900 --> 01:41:33,900 Old friend. 2485 01:41:36,700 --> 01:41:39,700 We finally did it. 2486 01:41:47,100 --> 01:41:50,976 We have at last achieved 2487 01:41:51,000 --> 01:41:53,900 our political emancipation. 2488 01:41:56,800 --> 01:41:59,576 We pledge ourselves to 2489 01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:01,576 liberate all our people 2490 01:42:01,600 --> 01:42:03,476 from the continuing bondage 2491 01:42:03,500 --> 01:42:06,276 of poverty, deprivation, 2492 01:42:06,300 --> 01:42:08,376 suffering, gender inequality, 2493 01:42:08,400 --> 01:42:12,400 and other discriminations. 2494 01:42:17,000 --> 01:42:19,676 A rainbow nation at peace 2495 01:42:19,700 --> 01:42:22,576 with itself and the rest of 2496 01:42:22,600 --> 01:42:23,676 the world... 2497 01:42:23,700 --> 01:42:26,576 Never, never, and never again 2498 01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:30,376 shall it be that this beautiful 2499 01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:32,376 land will again experience 2500 01:42:32,400 --> 01:42:34,176 the oppression of one 2501 01:42:34,200 --> 01:42:36,076 by another. 2502 01:42:44,800 --> 01:42:47,476 The sun shall never set 2503 01:42:47,500 --> 01:42:49,576 on so glorious a human 2504 01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:51,376 achievement. 2505 01:42:51,400 --> 01:42:54,276 Let freedom ring. 2506 01:42:54,300 --> 01:42:57,176 God bless Africa. 2507 01:43:09,700 --> 01:43:10,577 Congratulations, 2508 01:43:10,601 --> 01:43:12,400 Mr. President. 2509 01:43:12,500 --> 01:43:14,500 Thank you. 2510 01:43:27,900 --> 01:43:29,900 Viva! 2511 01:44:25,300 --> 01:44:26,476 Good evening, sir. 2512 01:44:26,500 --> 01:44:30,076 Good evening. 2513 01:44:30,100 --> 01:44:32,200 Good night, Mr. President. 2514 01:44:46,500 --> 01:44:47,576 ...Of sabotage and 2515 01:44:47,600 --> 01:44:50,376 conspiracy against the state. 2516 01:44:50,400 --> 01:44:52,176 In the case of accused 2517 01:44:52,200 --> 01:44:55,176 number one, Nelson Mandela, 2518 01:44:55,200 --> 01:44:56,976 the sentence is 2519 01:44:57,000 --> 01:44:58,976 life imprisonment. 2520 01:44:59,000 --> 01:45:00,976 Accused number two, 2521 01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:03,676 Walter Sisulu... 2522 01:45:03,700 --> 01:45:05,676 Life imprisonment. 2523 01:45:05,700 --> 01:45:07,476 Accused number three... 2524 01:45:21,900 --> 01:45:23,776 During my 2525 01:45:23,800 --> 01:45:26,676 lifetime, I have dedicated 2526 01:45:26,700 --> 01:45:28,676 myself to this struggle of 2527 01:45:28,700 --> 01:45:31,476 the African people. 2528 01:45:31,500 --> 01:45:33,376 I have fought against white 2529 01:45:33,400 --> 01:45:35,476 domination, and I have fought 2530 01:45:35,500 --> 01:45:39,176 against black domination. 2531 01:45:39,200 --> 01:45:41,176 I have cherished the ideals 2532 01:45:41,200 --> 01:45:43,976 of a Democratic free society 2533 01:45:44,000 --> 01:45:46,876 in which all persons live 2534 01:45:46,900 --> 01:45:48,876 in Harmony and with 2535 01:45:48,900 --> 01:45:51,676 equal opportunity. 2536 01:45:51,700 --> 01:45:54,476 It is an ideal which I hope 2537 01:45:54,500 --> 01:45:57,600 to live for and achieve. 2538 01:46:32,000 --> 01:46:35,876 ♪ Mandela ♪ 2539 01:46:35,900 --> 01:46:38,800 ♪ symbol to the world ♪ 2540 01:46:41,700 --> 01:46:44,376 ♪ a teacher for our people ♪ 2541 01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:48,500 ♪ father of our nation ♪ 2542 01:46:51,300 --> 01:46:53,976 ♪ a true son of Africa ♪ 2543 01:46:54,000 --> 01:46:56,876 ♪ for all to hope ♪ 2544 01:46:56,900 --> 01:46:57,977 ♪ yeah, yeah ♪ 2545 01:46:58,001 --> 01:46:59,776 ♪ yeah, yeah, yeah ♪ 2546 01:46:59,800 --> 01:47:03,676 ♪ brought a nation together ♪ 2547 01:47:03,700 --> 01:47:06,376 ♪ ohh ♪ 2548 01:47:06,400 --> 01:47:09,376 ♪ by the color of one heart ♪ 2549 01:47:14,300 --> 01:47:17,076 ♪ And honesty for life ♪ 2550 01:47:17,100 --> 01:47:18,077 ♪ yeah, he's there ♪ 2551 01:47:18,101 --> 01:47:19,876 ♪ for one and all ♪ 2552 01:47:19,900 --> 01:47:21,876 ♪ a love that's so bold ♪ 2553 01:47:21,900 --> 01:47:24,676 ♪ and a passion for life ♪ 2554 01:47:24,700 --> 01:47:27,476 ♪ the fabled brother ♪ 2555 01:47:27,500 --> 01:47:30,476 ♪ gentle heart with love ♪ 2556 01:47:30,500 --> 01:47:34,376 ♪ Mandela ♪ 2557 01:47:34,400 --> 01:47:37,300 ♪ symbol to the world ♪ 2558 01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:42,976 ♪ a teacher for our people ♪ 2559 01:47:43,000 --> 01:47:46,900 ♪ father of our nation ♪ 2560 01:47:49,800 --> 01:47:51,476 ♪ you taught life ♪ 2561 01:47:51,500 --> 01:47:54,476 ♪ with a guiding hand ♪ 2562 01:48:00,200 --> 01:48:03,076 ♪ You set the nation free ♪ 2563 01:48:03,100 --> 01:48:04,976 ♪ gave it power ♪ 2564 01:48:07,800 --> 01:48:10,676 ♪ You set the nation free ♪ 2565 01:48:10,700 --> 01:48:14,476 ♪ ohh, ohh, ohh ♪ 2566 01:48:14,500 --> 01:48:18,476 ♪ Mandela ♪ 2567 01:48:18,500 --> 01:48:21,500 ♪ symbol to the world ♪ 2568 01:48:24,300 --> 01:48:27,076 ♪ a teacher for our people ♪ 2569 01:48:27,100 --> 01:48:33,776 ♪ father of our nation ♪ 2570 01:48:33,800 --> 01:48:37,700 ♪ one nation ♪ 2571 01:48:49,200 --> 01:48:53,076 ♪ Ohh, yeah, yeah ♪ 2572 01:48:53,100 --> 01:48:55,876 ♪ yeah ♪ 158926