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[mystery music]
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[video tape charging]
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My name is Sophia Crane.
It's March 3rd, 2004.
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I'm a film student
and this is my senior thesis.
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I don't know how much longer
I'm going to be alive,
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so I ask whoever find this,
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please apply the first
and second halves
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of this final interview to the
beginning and end of my film.
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I don't know where to
make the cut.
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This is the story of Peeping Tom
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and how I went looking for him.
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Please show this to my parents.
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I don't know how much longer
I can go without blinking.
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[TV signal tone]
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Morning, fellas. Come on in.
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So, this is the house
I was telling you about.
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This is my in-laws' house.
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The information that we have on
it, it seems to have been built
around 1970-75,
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I can't really find
any information other than that,
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but down here in the basement
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is where Bart found it.
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I'll turn the light on.
Now, I have repositioned it
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for presentation purposes so,
if you'll bear with me...
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Here, just going to go
and dig it out.
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Right now if you can see me,
it was right under here.
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It was this... box. Come over
here, I'll show it to you.
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Don't watch, huh.
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Pretty eerie, but isn't that
how all good horror movies
start?
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A little mystery,
a little riddle.
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[Eve] Well, my husband recently
retired,
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we find this beautiful
house that we both loved
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and I guess it was
just before Thanksgiving.
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My husband went down in the
basement, did what guys do,
you know,
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check the boiler, check
the air conditioning, play with
the filters, things like that.
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He found this box full of tapes.
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She thought that Gavin could use
them for work,
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because he does
wedding videos and
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she thought maybe he can
tape over them, or something,
like to save money,
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but there are mini DVs so we
don't really use them anymore.
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You know, I thought maybe Gavin
can take a look at them,
see what's on them,
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something as like a little
project to keep him interested
and excited about film.
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And the very first one that I
picked up says:
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Final Solution.
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Alright,
that's the first one I watched,
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I mean, how could you not watch
anything like that, right?
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[Erik]
So what happened on the
tape
Final Solution,
what did
you see?
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A young lady identifies herself
as Sophia Crane, a film student.
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Total coincidence, as a film
major, film major,
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so already we're
simpatico
,
which is great.
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She's upset about the school
project, she's stressed out
a little bit,
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and then it got a little
upsetting after that and a
little bit weird.
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Some violence, some things
that I don't really
wanna say right now,
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we don't what to give it
all away.
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But let's just say
that I had to watch
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about the next 40 tapes
immediately after that.
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First thing I did was, of
course, call the previous owner
that we bought the house from,
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left voicemail messages saying
that I found a box,
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found something that probably
belongs to them.
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I never heard back from them,
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and then eventually the phone
number was just unlisted.
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[Erik]
But the footage never
actually takes place in your
in-laws' house.
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No, it doesn't, and that's
another kind of fun, clinky dink
about this whole thing.
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[Erik]
What are you doing in
regards to the home?
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Selling it.
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After the first tape,
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the next tape that I saw there
was called
Rough Edit.
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Everything looks really good,
there is interviews on the
street,
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really nice flow, and then after
about ten minutes it gets
really choppy.
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And it's about 40 or so tapes
in here,
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so it's like they got too busy
to cut it together and they
just kept
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filming and filming and filming
and they didn't really know when
to stop.
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-[Erik]
So what did you do?
-Well, being a good filmmaker
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as I am, I took their film
and I finished it.
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I edited it together myself,
I took their film
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and made it my film,
so now it's finished,
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now it's completed the way that
it should have been.
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[Erik]
And what did you think
when you saw it all in sequence?
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[sighs]
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Well, I didn't really sleep
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for a couple of days after that.
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[crescendo]
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[noise]
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Behind me stands the
Ilchester tunnel, home to the
B&O... Shit, again.
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Are we rolling?
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[inaudible directions]
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Well, I mean, to me it
looks it...
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[noise interfering]
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Behind me stands the Ilchester
tunnel, a thruway for the B&O
Railroad for over a century.
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But for the past 80 years, for
local residents, it has become
something far more sinister.
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It's become home to...
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-Peeping Tom.
-Peeping Tom.
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-The Blink Man.
-Mr. Blink.
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-Peeping Tom.
-Peeping Tom.
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-The Blink Man.
-The Ilchester The Molester.
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The Tunnel Guy?
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-Peeping Tom.
-Old Blinky.
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[Sophia] Alright, so you guys
have ever seen him before?
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Unless I'm a ghost right now,
then no!
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If I saw him, I'd be dead.
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Yes, I did know this one fellow
around my age,
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this is back around 64-65 or so,
he saw The Blink Man.
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-[Sophia] What happened to him?
-Well, he died.
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[Matt] Peeping Tom is the
kind of creature that you can
summon up,
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so there is a ritual, those
teen pilgrimages, you know,
the midnight road trip,
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you show up at the trestle end
of the tunnel at midnight
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and you have to stare down
this tunnel, looking at the end
for a full hour.
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And if you can do this
without blinking,
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Peeping Tom comes out
of the shadows and materializes
in front of you.
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Now he's the class of
supernatural creature
called a
Flimmern-Geist.
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German alchemists came up
with this term in the 1500s
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for that thing, that you see in
the corner of your eyes
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and when you look around to see
it, there's nothing there.
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[Matt] Peeping Tom is
a Flimmern-Geist
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that you can actually
bring into view.
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-Well, he's tall, dark coat.
-Skinny.
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-Top hat.
-Big scary eyes.
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Mostly I've heard that
he's just a shadow,
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'cause he's like in your
peripheral vision.
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Instantly there, then not there,
then there again.
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There was this one chick,
in particular,
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a few years ago, she went to the
school right down the road.
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Her and her friends
went up to the tunnel rail
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and they started staring down,
she was the only one who could
stare for... you have to stare
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-for an hour.
-For an hour.
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The twist is that
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once you've seen him,
you can't unsee him.
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Every time you blink,
he's a little bit closer
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and he comes closer and closer
each time you blink until
he's right in your face.
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He sounds scary,
what does he do?
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-Gets you.
-Gets you.
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And now you've already proved
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that you can keep your eyes open
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for a long time,
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because that's
how you conjure him up.
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When he's right up there,
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the temptation is death
staring you in the face,
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you do anything
you can to avoid him.
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But he's got a trick up his
sleeve,
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he has very long eyelashes
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and you know that thing that you
do with babies,
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to give them a little,
he does that,
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and then you can't help it,
you blink. What do we call
that...
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Can I show it, like...
Butterfly...
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[Matt] ...butterfly kisses.
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I'm pretty sure there's only,
I don't know,
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a couple of people in the world,
period,
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that can stare for an hour
straight.
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I think the world record,
I don't even know if the world
record is an hour.
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I think the record is probably
maybe 30 minutes, 40 minutes.
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It's really hard to stare at
something without blinking
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for even 10 or 15 minutes.
It will be really difficult for
most people.
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Well, of course, there's no
record of it. People too busy
dying to report it.
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Even if you made it out to that
long, I mean the vision will be
quite blurred and, again,
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you know, I can't emphasize
enough, the pain would be
excruciating.
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As with all the best folklore
and urban legends,
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you can't really verify
any of the details in this.
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It's always happened
to a friend of a friend.
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My brother's friend used to tell
the story that
his uncle told him.
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And they got freaked out
after a while and they ran away
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but she did stay there
the whole hour.
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Like a month later
they found his body
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floating in the Patapsco River.
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She ended up trying
to look out a window,
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she tried to
burn out her eyes...
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[overlapping]
By looking at the sun.
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Even though she couldn't
see him,
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his presence was still there
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so she, you know, she thought
the whole time, she gets blinks,
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she ended up blinking,
but she...
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[overlapping]
Can she beat Peeping Tom?
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-Can't cheat, though.
-Can't cheat Peeping Tom.
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You know, I think you'd be
pushing the limits, I think,
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of the human anatomy and
physiology,
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but maybe that's possible.
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Obviously,
from he shared with me,
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that would be a terrible idea,
if that's for real.
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[Sophia]
Absence of proof
hasn't caused absence of
belief.
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Ilchester tunnel is still a late
night hang out for teenagers
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and a popular spot for
fraternity hazing.
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It's a dare often attempted, but
apparently seldom completed.
Until now.
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[Matt]
You show up at the
trestle end
of the tunnel at midnight...
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[Gavin] The metadata on the
tapes
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show that it was filmed between
February 14th
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and March 3rd of 2004.
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OK, so I went back and I looked
at all of the local colleges,
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I called, I walked into every
college in town,
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showed them pictures of Sophia,
showed them pictures of Feldman.
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No information. You can't get
past these people at all.
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There's no record of a doctor
Wolfe who's supposedly
their professor,
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there's no indication that the
Peeping Tom specialist that
Sophia and Feldman
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go and speak to
in his home even exists,
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an Asian American man, I believe
he's supposed to be an eye
specialist.
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There's no title cards
to show that this person
even exists.
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[distorted voice]
I
analyzed
them, and I watched them
repeatedly, I looked back on
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every incident reported I could
find that would have matched
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any of these people, and I can't
find anything that matches up.
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My hunch would say he
probably found either some
student films
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or just somebody making her
own horror movie or something
like that.
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There's no cuts, there's
no retakes, there's no calling
for action,
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aside from the first two
minutes of the movie,
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where Sophia is obviously
directing herself,
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there's absolutely no evidence
to suggest that somebody is
directing them.
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[Gavin] I've been staring at
it for the better part of six
months right now.
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I believe it's 100% genuine.
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[Erik]
It looks like
found footage.
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-Movie.
-Alright.
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[Gavin] Found footage, I mean,
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what does that really mean?
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Did I find the footage?
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Was it handed to me and then am
I presenting it again? Yes.
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That would be considered
found footage,
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but as far as putting
a horror movie together,
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I don't really think
that there's any...
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I'm a, I'm a real filmmaker.
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OK, so we're not gonna
be making horror movies.
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We're gonna try
to reveal the truth of something
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that's a mystery or
kind of get something out of it.
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When you make a film that
is presenting itself
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as roughly cut together
found footage,
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you are building in your excuse
for anything that's wrong
with it.
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Uh, hey folks, this is the
footage we found, we're just
presenting it, yeah.
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The camera jiggles all over the
place, not because we didn't
know how to hold
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a hand-held camera steady,
but because these were kids lost
in the woods
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getting more and more scared
all the time.
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I think what would make it more
real,
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would be if it were
the first one out there
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and they were not following
a certain genre.
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It works on a low-budget level
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and that's the primary reason
for, I think, for doing it.
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[distorted voice]
So my hunch is either Mr. York
was doing that himself
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and trying to get some credence
to this and make it look
legitimate,
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or he just run somebody else's
project and they send it
through.
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[Erik]
Just so we're all clear,
the reason that he can't find
the students,
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the teachers, the eye doctor...
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[distorted voice]
I believe they're actors.
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[Erik]
You realize that the
first thing that critics will
accuse you of,
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after gullibility,
is faking the film yourself.
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Of course, of course, and that's
why nobody would believe this.
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[Erik]
Because it's a pretty
big coincidence
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that the person who finds the
unfinished film
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just happens to be a filmmaker.
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Right, sure, and the naysayers
are gonna say that
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because that's what they do,
they naysay.
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Hum, I don't know if it's real
or not, but it doesn't really
matter,
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because he's excited about it
being real, so...
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We're gonna take this footage
to every professional in town
that we can find,
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ghosthunters, mythbusters,
we're going to go to the radio
stations,
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we're going to the TV stations,
we're going to show the footage
and we're gonna saturate
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the market with this
information.
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[Erik]
If your plan is to try
to present this as being
100% authentic,
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why are you not simply taking
the footage forward and calling
a press conference right now?
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Why are you planning to have the
video cleaned up, why are you
looking to have the sound done?
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Well, I mean, you know, we need
to present the best possible
version of this thing as we can,
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then we're gonna prove to the
world that Peeping Tom exists.
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The camera doesn't lie.
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Mel Sumner, 19, PolySci major
and staring contest champion.
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Alright, dude, so right down
there is Ilchester tunnel
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and we're gonna have you
standing right over there
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on the other of the trestle,
starting at 12 for an hour.
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Well, how the hell am I supposed
to see at the end of that?
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[Feldman] Y'all,
just don't worry about it.
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-[Sophia] You ready?
-[Mel] Yes, let's stare at it.
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Alright, ten seconds
to midnight starting... now.
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-[Feldman] What's it feels like?
-It's so hypnotic!
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You literally, you can't
really see anything down there.
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I can see.
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That's so creepy, it's like
the tunnel's like staring
right back at me.
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This is kind of like the
ultimate staring contest,
you know, like...
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even if I win, I can never
really blink again.
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How much,
how much time we're at?
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-[Sophia] Come on, dude!
-[Feldman] You got it, man!
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Please stop talking to me.
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-[Feldman] Sophia, shut up.
-Stop talking.
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[Sophia] You're alright?
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Fuck! Oh, God!
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Why do you want Handycam?
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[Sophia] We're using our good
camera to document this,
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I wanna be able
to document that, OK?
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You realize the footage will
come nowhere close
to matching up, right?
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[Sophia] It's documentary,
dude, it doesn't have to match.
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I'm gonna ignore that
you just said that.
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So, what we're doing now
is we set up this camera,
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I'm gonna
shoot it down the tunnel
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starting right at midnight,
it's gonna go all the way
to 1:00 a.m.
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-[Sophia] Yeah.
-Now this will take the place
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of a human eye
and it will not blink,
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it will constantly run and
hopefully right at 1:00 a.m.,
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as the legend says,
Peeping Tom will show up
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and butterfly kiss my camera.
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[Sophia] Look, as much as
I hate to say this
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I think this actually has a
really good shot of working
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before you let this go
to your head
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simply because a lens is
like an eye, OK?
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-The shutter, we're good, OK?
-The shutter?
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[Sophia] Yes, I think the
shutter. Well, technically...
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That's the only part
of the camera...
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[Sophia] Technically, that would
be blinking. The what?
300
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[traffic noise]
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[Sophia] Alright, man,
we're coming up on it.
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00:17:39,658 --> 00:17:41,593
-What's the time?
-You ready?
303
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What's the time?
304
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We've got ten more seconds
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starting now.
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Ten, nine...
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Come on, Mr. Blink,
See anything?
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-No, nothing.
-Come on!
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And, now!
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See anything?
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Don't kill it!
You see anything?
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Do you see anything?
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Feldman, answer my question,
do you see anything?
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Do not kill the camera,
just give him a second to...
315
00:18:14,726 --> 00:18:16,528
[under the breath] Fuck!
316
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...that you live in, but if
I'm gonna be here to yada yada,
clean this up a little bit,
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I mean, as far as the tapes go,
can I make like a box,
like the...
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-[Sophia] OK.
-You got a shoe box
[indistinct], or...
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[Sophia] We'll just work on this
another day.
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00:18:32,711 --> 00:18:35,614
Do we have a backup plan here?
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00:18:38,383 --> 00:18:41,487
[Sophia] Dude, dude, dude, dude!
Are you seeing that?
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Am I seeing what?
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00:18:42,654 --> 00:18:44,256
Feldman, look right there!
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Feldman, look right there!
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00:18:46,492 --> 00:18:48,293
-Yeah! I know.
-Do you see that?
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00:18:50,996 --> 00:18:52,698
[Feldman] What?
Was that there or...
327
00:18:52,731 --> 00:18:54,633
Do you see that?
What the fuck is that?
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00:18:54,666 --> 00:18:57,703
-I didn't add it!
-Are you serious?
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00:18:57,736 --> 00:19:00,339
-[Sophia] Oh, my gosh, I think--
-[Feldman] Holy shit!
330
00:19:00,372 --> 00:19:02,808
Is there any way that you can
brighten this, like whatsoever.
331
00:19:02,841 --> 00:19:06,845
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's gonna
look like hell, but no,
I can do it.
332
00:19:06,879 --> 00:19:08,747
OK, do you want me to take
the camera right now?
333
00:19:08,780 --> 00:19:10,516
[Feldman] So, I'm bringing up
the light.
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00:19:10,549 --> 00:19:12,217
[Sophia] Cool, cool, do it!
335
00:19:15,854 --> 00:19:17,756
-[Sophia] Gosh, dude!
-[Feldman] Bang!
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00:19:17,789 --> 00:19:19,324
[Feldman] Right fucking there!
337
00:19:19,358 --> 00:19:21,560
[Sophia] That was right
on the hour mark.
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00:19:21,593 --> 00:19:23,362
Zoom in, zoom in.
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00:19:23,395 --> 00:19:25,797
Alright, this is the closest
I can get with that,
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00:19:25,831 --> 00:19:27,799
and like still be able to see
shit, so you ready?
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00:19:27,833 --> 00:19:31,270
Alright, alright, go, go!
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00:19:32,804 --> 00:19:35,274
-[Feldman] Holy shit!
-[Sophia] Oh, my gosh!
343
00:19:36,742 --> 00:19:38,443
[Feldman] Look at that
motherfucker!
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00:19:38,477 --> 00:19:40,245
[Sophia] You're kidding me!
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00:19:40,279 --> 00:19:42,614
Like five minutes ago,
this is all over,
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00:19:42,648 --> 00:19:44,950
but we have Peeping Tom here!
347
00:19:44,983 --> 00:19:47,853
-We fucking got him, man!
-Oh my gosh!
348
00:19:49,821 --> 00:19:56,261
[Andy]
I don't see any signs
that it was faked,
in the sense that like it was...
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like someone went in with a
computer and added something,
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00:19:58,697 --> 00:20:01,667
like there's nothing in there
that I can definitively point
to and say:
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"OK, this is a fake."
352
00:20:02,834 --> 00:20:04,703
So, I would go with that,
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00:20:04,736 --> 00:20:06,538
at the same time, you know,
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00:20:06,572 --> 00:20:07,806
it's a small little video,
355
00:20:07,839 --> 00:20:09,408
there's not a lot of detail,
356
00:20:09,441 --> 00:20:11,777
so I'm hesitant
to commit either way,
357
00:20:11,810 --> 00:20:14,613
but I, if it was...
358
00:20:14,646 --> 00:20:17,649
if something were there, it
would probably look like that.
359
00:20:17,683 --> 00:20:20,552
You were convinced that that
would just
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00:20:20,586 --> 00:20:26,491
be natural lighting, no
manipulation as far as that
particular shot is concerned.
361
00:20:26,525 --> 00:20:30,963
Well, I'm not convinced
of anything, it's certainly
plausible.
362
00:20:30,996 --> 00:20:32,764
Right, but you're not
ruling it out.
363
00:20:32,798 --> 00:20:34,433
I can't point to
anything and say:
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00:20:34,466 --> 00:20:35,667
"This makes is a fake."
365
00:20:35,701 --> 00:20:37,469
It could be a guy, dressed up,
366
00:20:37,502 --> 00:20:39,338
standing up in the back maybe,
367
00:20:39,371 --> 00:20:42,441
like, you know, it could be
a practical kind of hoax,
368
00:20:42,474 --> 00:20:45,611
like someone could have taken
this and in a computer,
369
00:20:45,644 --> 00:20:48,480
it's gone and manipulated it.
370
00:20:48,513 --> 00:20:53,018
The idea of the technological
equivalent of the actual eye,
371
00:20:53,051 --> 00:20:56,655
which is actually
a part of the human organism,
372
00:20:56,688 --> 00:21:01,760
and the human mind, the idea
of using a camera as a real
equivalent of that,
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00:21:01,793 --> 00:21:06,598
metaphysical equivalent, strikes
me as... I have a hard time with
that.
374
00:21:06,632 --> 00:21:11,637
I don't know, man, you, I mean
we're sitting here trying to
explain spirits, so...
375
00:21:11,670 --> 00:21:14,339
If you want to have a rational
conversation about ghosts
376
00:21:14,373 --> 00:21:18,410
and goblins versus camera
technology, I'm not really sure.
377
00:21:18,443 --> 00:21:20,746
[Erik]
So, where are we?
What are we doing?
378
00:21:20,779 --> 00:21:23,582
We are at the VFW
in Glen Burnie, Maryland,
379
00:21:23,615 --> 00:21:28,820
and I'm gonna go and present
some of the footage to
an assembled group
380
00:21:28,854 --> 00:21:34,793
of paranormal investigators,
ghosthunters and get some
allies here.
381
00:21:36,061 --> 00:21:38,030
[Erik]
What's the end game
here tonight?
382
00:21:38,063 --> 00:21:41,099
Well, the end game is that when
we do the press conference,
383
00:21:41,133 --> 00:21:44,469
I can have a handful of these
people standing beside me
saying:
384
00:21:44,503 --> 00:21:45,871
"Footage is real,
385
00:21:45,904 --> 00:21:47,906
we're behind you, Gavin,
we believe you!"
386
00:21:47,939 --> 00:21:52,077
And then they...
I think they reach some 10,000
people or something, so...
387
00:21:52,110 --> 00:21:55,514
Our Facebook page
has over 8,000 likes
388
00:21:55,547 --> 00:21:58,517
and most of those people
389
00:21:58,550 --> 00:22:02,587
are into the paranormal or they
want to be on our Facebook page.
390
00:22:02,621 --> 00:22:07,693
So, yes, I could put it out
there for others to see.
391
00:22:07,726 --> 00:22:11,063
[Gavin] We're just gonna show
the image of Peeping Tom
coming up to the tunnel.
392
00:22:11,096 --> 00:22:14,633
[Erik]
Why are you only showing
the ghost and apparently
the ghost proofs?
393
00:22:14,666 --> 00:22:16,134
Just that one shot.
394
00:22:16,168 --> 00:22:18,437
I don't think they need any
of the other information,
395
00:22:18,470 --> 00:22:20,639
I think right now we're just
trying to determine whether
396
00:22:20,672 --> 00:22:24,109
or not Peeping Tom is a real
entity and the story about
397
00:22:24,142 --> 00:22:28,947
Sophia and the big guns and on
the actual what happened.
I think you want to see that.
398
00:22:28,980 --> 00:22:31,950
[Gavin] The only plausible
explanation that
you folks could think
399
00:22:31,983 --> 00:22:34,052
and myself and the first thing
I thought of
400
00:22:34,086 --> 00:22:35,954
was this has got to be a guy
in a suit,
401
00:22:35,987 --> 00:22:38,090
this is somebody standing there
at the end of the tunnel,
402
00:22:38,123 --> 00:22:40,859
they're playing
a practical joke, OK?
403
00:22:40,892 --> 00:22:45,564
The thing that this bunks
that theory however is the fact
that the metadata
404
00:22:45,597 --> 00:22:47,999
on both cameras say that there
was no one else there.
405
00:22:48,033 --> 00:22:52,437
One camera films the other
camera, we've got proof
of both of that
406
00:22:52,471 --> 00:22:54,873
it turned on, this is what
happens when they played it
back.
407
00:22:54,906 --> 00:22:57,909
Right now you just want to pick
everybody's interest,
we're gonna get them to talk,
408
00:22:57,943 --> 00:23:01,613
"Who's Peeping Tom, the tunnel?"
Right here in your mind.
Just phew!
409
00:23:01,646 --> 00:23:03,215
[Erik]
Gonna get it
so he showed you.
410
00:23:03,248 --> 00:23:05,584
Until he shows us more,
we just don't know.
411
00:23:05,617 --> 00:23:09,588
-[Erik]
Right!
-We believe there's
a possibility,
412
00:23:09,621 --> 00:23:10,689
but we need more evidence.
413
00:23:12,357 --> 00:23:18,830
Saying everything else for,
you know, that next big steps
will be wolf's surprise.
414
00:23:18,864 --> 00:23:21,900
It'll probably work out
a lot better too.
415
00:23:21,933 --> 00:23:23,902
So you know, you can see
what I saw.
416
00:23:23,935 --> 00:23:26,638
I mean the journey that
we've already been on.
417
00:23:26,671 --> 00:23:28,640
You can't tell that this isn't
gonna be the shot,
418
00:23:28,673 --> 00:23:33,712
this is Gavin's chance, this is
my second chance to make it.
419
00:23:33,745 --> 00:23:35,080
[man]
Fortune and glory!
420
00:23:35,113 --> 00:23:36,648
[Erik]
Let's go back a little
bit,
421
00:23:36,681 --> 00:23:38,617
let's talk about you
as a filmmaker.
422
00:23:38,650 --> 00:23:40,852
You went to school for
filmmaking?
423
00:23:40,886 --> 00:23:43,855
Yeah, my non-degree, that's what
I like to tell everybody it was.
424
00:23:43,889 --> 00:23:47,692
He does a lot of weddings,
so, you know, there's wedding
season
425
00:23:47,726 --> 00:23:52,898
and then in the off season
it's kind of a little bit
more spotty.
426
00:23:52,931 --> 00:23:55,100
And then as the years went by,
427
00:23:55,133 --> 00:24:01,173
it became a way to pay the bills
and to still convince myself
that I'm a filmmaker.
428
00:24:01,206 --> 00:24:05,544
Now, it's just a way
to pay the bills.
429
00:24:05,577 --> 00:24:08,880
[Erik]
Isn't this wedding
season right now?
430
00:24:10,549 --> 00:24:13,218
Yeah, it's July.
431
00:24:13,251 --> 00:24:15,954
I'm sorry, I don't want to
embarrass anybody, but it...
432
00:24:17,189 --> 00:24:22,661
She's always hectic, she's
always happened to come and
borrow money and,
433
00:24:22,694 --> 00:24:26,832
and that doesn't bother me,
that's what we're here for,
right,
434
00:24:26,865 --> 00:24:29,935
to make sure that
everything's...
435
00:24:29,968 --> 00:24:32,604
We can help out.
Everything's OK.
436
00:24:32,637 --> 00:24:36,808
[Erik]
Does Gavin know that
you're getting help?
437
00:24:36,842 --> 00:24:39,744
I mean it's not so much help
438
00:24:39,778 --> 00:24:44,683
that it needs to be discussed
or whatever.
439
00:24:44,716 --> 00:24:47,552
[Erik]
So, let me ask you
a question, you're taking
their film
440
00:24:47,586 --> 00:24:49,855
and you're trying to show
it to the world,
441
00:24:49,888 --> 00:24:52,991
but why aren't you making
this movie that I'm making
right now?
442
00:24:53,024 --> 00:24:56,728
Why aren't you doing a film
of your own essentially
rather than just,
443
00:24:56,761 --> 00:24:58,830
you know, taking somebody
else's and finishing it?
444
00:24:58,864 --> 00:25:01,733
Nobody would believe this
if I did it, OK?
445
00:25:01,766 --> 00:25:04,970
Nobody's gonna believe a
documentary about me finding
footage
446
00:25:05,003 --> 00:25:07,005
and putting it together
and running around.
447
00:25:07,038 --> 00:25:10,242
That's why we need you,
that's why you're here
to tell the story.
448
00:25:10,275 --> 00:25:17,549
Because if the audience doesn't
believe the footage, then
you're in the same exact place.
449
00:25:20,151 --> 00:25:23,255
-[door knocking]
-Come in!
450
00:25:25,390 --> 00:25:27,092
Fellas!
451
00:25:27,125 --> 00:25:29,928
-[Jamie] Gavin,
how are you doing?
-How are you? Gavin York.
452
00:25:29,961 --> 00:25:31,129
[Gavin] I want to make sure
453
00:25:31,162 --> 00:25:32,864
that this is well thought out,
454
00:25:32,898 --> 00:25:34,699
put together with a lot of care.
455
00:25:34,733 --> 00:25:37,135
We're in this business because
we like to entertain,
456
00:25:37,168 --> 00:25:40,705
but we're in this business
because we want to make
money, OK?
457
00:25:40,739 --> 00:25:44,109
It's found footage,
I understand, it's a found
footage style.
458
00:25:44,142 --> 00:25:50,315
Well, it's real. As in
"It's found footage, because
I found the footage."
459
00:25:52,050 --> 00:25:54,052
-OK.
-I actually found it.
460
00:25:54,085 --> 00:25:55,754
-Right.
-OK.
461
00:25:55,787 --> 00:25:57,756
[Erik]
But you understand
why it looks suspicious
462
00:25:57,789 --> 00:25:59,758
that rather than just putting
the footage out there,
463
00:25:59,791 --> 00:26:03,695
you are having it cleaned up
and mixed
464
00:26:03,728 --> 00:26:05,030
for theatrical release.
465
00:26:05,063 --> 00:26:06,765
But who is gonna know that?
466
00:26:06,798 --> 00:26:08,233
You're treating it right now
like a movie.
467
00:26:08,266 --> 00:26:10,068
But why can't you treat it both?
468
00:26:10,101 --> 00:26:11,937
Cleaning it up kind of
defeats the purpose
469
00:26:11,970 --> 00:26:14,406
of it being this gritty found
footage found in a basement.
470
00:26:14,439 --> 00:26:16,408
I guess, I mean I'm not really
trying
471
00:26:16,441 --> 00:26:19,044
to walk around and say,
"Hey, look how gritty it is!"
472
00:26:19,077 --> 00:26:20,645
It's your project.
473
00:26:20,679 --> 00:26:22,314
It all comes down to
how to approach it
474
00:26:22,347 --> 00:26:24,316
and when we figure out how
we're gonna approach it,
475
00:26:24,349 --> 00:26:26,017
then we can help you
budget for it.
476
00:26:26,051 --> 00:26:27,852
-[Gavin] Sure.
-I understand that
477
00:26:27,886 --> 00:26:30,789
that's a concern. I understand
that it isn't so fun.
478
00:26:30,822 --> 00:26:33,892
-Yeah, yeah, but about that...
-In the project...
479
00:26:33,925 --> 00:26:36,127
[Erik]
Realistically,
how much can you afford?
480
00:26:39,097 --> 00:26:41,900
Realistically,
I can't afford anything.
481
00:26:41,933 --> 00:26:47,672
This is an opportunity for us to
get in like on the ground floor.
482
00:26:47,706 --> 00:26:52,344
This is a game changer. When
you watch it, you will know.
483
00:26:52,377 --> 00:26:54,346
[Erik]
You're trying to get
them to do this...
484
00:26:54,379 --> 00:26:57,949
For free, for zero,
for a piece of the pie.
485
00:26:57,983 --> 00:27:01,753
We all know these conversations
happen all the time and in the
reality of it is that,
486
00:27:01,786 --> 00:27:05,256
as a business,
there's got to be some kind of
487
00:27:05,290 --> 00:27:07,926
process that works for us
that keeps our lights on
488
00:27:07,959 --> 00:27:10,028
-so to speak.
-Oh, sure, sure.
489
00:27:10,061 --> 00:27:12,297
If I have to pay,
490
00:27:12,330 --> 00:27:18,103
I'm willing to go maybe $1,500.
491
00:27:18,136 --> 00:27:20,071
We could probably do about
492
00:27:20,105 --> 00:27:24,242
$2,000, but then it's gonna be
a lot of ramen noodles.
493
00:27:24,275 --> 00:27:30,982
Most features that get full
packages, even on an indie rate
are anywhere from like 10 to 20.
494
00:27:31,016 --> 00:27:37,255
I can't leave here without
them agreeing to do this.
495
00:27:38,757 --> 00:27:41,126
Alright, Feldman, just let me
do the talking, OK?
496
00:27:41,159 --> 00:27:43,862
-[Feldman] Sure!
-Cool! Thank you!
497
00:27:43,895 --> 00:27:45,096
[knocking]
498
00:27:46,431 --> 00:27:48,867
-Hey, Dr. Wolfe?
-Miss Crane.
499
00:27:48,900 --> 00:27:51,469
Hey, I know it's first thing
early in the morning and
everything,
500
00:27:51,503 --> 00:27:53,772
but we have something
really awesome
501
00:27:53,805 --> 00:27:55,940
to show you for the documentary
and it would be great...
502
00:27:55,974 --> 00:27:59,177
Wow, wow. Mr. Feldman, what's
with the camera?
503
00:27:59,210 --> 00:28:01,012
[Sophia] I got this, Feldman.
504
00:28:01,046 --> 00:28:02,747
It's actually for
the documentary.
505
00:28:02,781 --> 00:28:05,350
There's actually something that
we need to show you.
506
00:28:05,383 --> 00:28:07,485
Hey, Feldman, are you rolling?
507
00:28:07,519 --> 00:28:08,787
Yeah.
508
00:28:09,854 --> 00:28:11,289
All this will become
very clear in five seconds,
509
00:28:11,322 --> 00:28:13,391
but we are documenting
this entire process.
510
00:28:13,425 --> 00:28:15,794
[Feldman] So, right at 1 a.m.
this is what happened.
511
00:28:19,330 --> 00:28:22,233
-[Dr. Wolfe] Hmm.
-So?
512
00:28:22,267 --> 00:28:24,402
-Nicely done!
-What do you think?
513
00:28:24,436 --> 00:28:27,305
An excellent effect!
You guys have done a good job!
514
00:28:27,338 --> 00:28:30,442
No, Dr. Wolfe, this is not an
effect, this is for real!
515
00:28:30,475 --> 00:28:32,343
This is not the project
we talked about,
516
00:28:32,377 --> 00:28:34,179
but you've got
a nice premise here,
517
00:28:34,212 --> 00:28:35,947
you've got something
you can work with,
518
00:28:35,980 --> 00:28:38,149
you can turn this into
a very sweet horror film.
519
00:28:38,183 --> 00:28:39,984
-We...
-Just one second, OK?
520
00:28:40,018 --> 00:28:42,187
My camera it's about run out
of batteries.
521
00:28:42,220 --> 00:28:44,789
OK, get the camera, please.
OK, this is grey data,
Dr. Wolfe.
522
00:28:44,823 --> 00:28:48,359
We need your
advising right now, OK? This...
523
00:28:50,829 --> 00:28:52,797
...psychodrama you're trying
to do here
524
00:28:52,831 --> 00:28:55,800
and I respect, you're trying
to be creative and all,
525
00:28:55,834 --> 00:28:58,470
but I'm very uncomfortable
with you filming me.
526
00:28:58,503 --> 00:29:00,505
There would not have been
enough time to put all these
527
00:29:00,538 --> 00:29:02,507
enhancements in it
and everything else.
528
00:29:02,540 --> 00:29:05,110
This guy doesn't know
what the hell he's doing.
529
00:29:05,143 --> 00:29:06,945
Take five, Feldman.
530
00:29:06,978 --> 00:29:09,347
Look, I would not
put my good name on the line.
531
00:29:09,380 --> 00:29:12,217
Did you have that tape
in your hands
532
00:29:12,250 --> 00:29:16,588
24/7 from the moment that you
walked away from that tunnel?
533
00:29:16,621 --> 00:29:20,158
Feldman is a slacker, he's in
the seventh year
of his six-year plan
534
00:29:20,191 --> 00:29:23,361
to get through school and, you
know what? He's a genius.
535
00:29:23,394 --> 00:29:25,230
He's a genius when it comes
to the camera
536
00:29:25,263 --> 00:29:26,598
and doing things with it.
537
00:29:26,631 --> 00:29:28,867
[Sophia] Well, I called
Mr. Folklore
538
00:29:28,900 --> 00:29:30,235
and left a message
on his machine,
539
00:29:30,268 --> 00:29:32,103
so I guess we should
540
00:29:32,137 --> 00:29:33,071
have talked to him first.
541
00:29:34,172 --> 00:29:36,107
[Feldman] Well, why don't we
just go talk to him now?
542
00:29:36,141 --> 00:29:38,376
My big thing is how did anybody
look at that footage
543
00:29:38,409 --> 00:29:40,111
and say that it's not real?
544
00:29:40,145 --> 00:29:44,482
That's what I'm saying.
Obviously, we're still learning.
545
00:29:44,516 --> 00:29:46,518
Like, you just can't fake that.
546
00:29:50,488 --> 00:29:52,423
-Come on!
-[Feldman] Anything?
547
00:29:52,457 --> 00:29:53,992
-No!
-Awesome!
548
00:29:54,025 --> 00:29:56,227
I'm gonna check the side.
549
00:30:00,131 --> 00:30:02,634
Honestly, I feel a little weird
about creeping in his window,
but...
550
00:30:02,667 --> 00:30:06,271
[Feldman] This is a folklore
guy, I'm sure this is the least
creepy thing about it.
551
00:30:06,304 --> 00:30:08,173
Yeah.
552
00:30:08,206 --> 00:30:09,941
-[Feldman] Anything?
-No!
553
00:30:12,210 --> 00:30:14,979
Shit! Now what?
554
00:30:18,049 --> 00:30:19,417
1527?
555
00:30:19,450 --> 00:30:23,555
Oh, this is it, this is it,
right here.
556
00:30:23,588 --> 00:30:25,190
You guys, this is the house.
557
00:30:27,091 --> 00:30:29,494
Oh, my God.
558
00:30:29,527 --> 00:30:32,330
Just like being in a dream,
I can't believe we're
actually here.
559
00:30:32,363 --> 00:30:37,602
[Matt] It was undoubtedly
through the
Weird
books that I
have worked on for a good...
560
00:30:37,635 --> 00:30:43,041
It was about 7-8 years
I was working on this
series of
Weird
books
561
00:30:43,074 --> 00:30:45,977
and certainly in
Pennsylvania and Maryland,
562
00:30:46,010 --> 00:30:48,313
this is what
I'm best known for.
563
00:30:48,346 --> 00:30:49,614
[door knocking]
564
00:30:52,383 --> 00:30:54,419
-Mr. Lake!
-Mr. York!
565
00:30:54,452 --> 00:30:55,954
-Call me, Gavin, please!
-Gavin.
566
00:30:55,987 --> 00:30:57,689
This is the camera crew
and everybody!
567
00:30:57,722 --> 00:30:59,057
Hi! Come on...
568
00:30:59,090 --> 00:31:00,325
Just don't pay them any mind,
569
00:31:00,358 --> 00:31:01,593
they're just gonna do
their thing.
570
00:31:01,626 --> 00:31:04,195
-OK.
-This place is great!
571
00:31:04,229 --> 00:31:06,564
I have to tell you, this is
an absolute thrill,
572
00:31:06,598 --> 00:31:09,567
it's been about six months
I've been studying this place.
573
00:31:09,601 --> 00:31:12,070
Wow, that's kind of unusual!
574
00:31:12,103 --> 00:31:14,038
Right here, this is it!
575
00:31:14,973 --> 00:31:19,110
This is it, this is the spot
where you gave your interview.
576
00:31:19,143 --> 00:31:21,346
-I vaguely remember it.
-Ten years ago!
577
00:31:21,379 --> 00:31:25,583
Yeah! I don't often have
crews in my house.
578
00:31:25,617 --> 00:31:28,186
Yeah, Gavin sent me
a message on Facebook
579
00:31:28,219 --> 00:31:31,656
and he told me that he found
small footage of me,
580
00:31:31,689 --> 00:31:33,591
so I'm kind of interested
to see the footage.
581
00:31:33,625 --> 00:31:35,593
[Matt on TV]
Keep your eyes open
582
00:31:35,627 --> 00:31:37,629
for a long time because that's
how you conjure him up.
583
00:31:37,662 --> 00:31:39,497
When he's right up there,
584
00:31:39,530 --> 00:31:41,366
the temptation is dead staring
you in the face,
585
00:31:41,399 --> 00:31:43,668
you do anything
you can to avoid him.
586
00:31:50,341 --> 00:31:52,210
[Sophia] Nice doorbell, Feldman.
587
00:31:52,243 --> 00:31:54,345
[rock music coming from inside]
588
00:31:58,449 --> 00:32:00,051
[loud rock music]
589
00:32:02,287 --> 00:32:04,389
[Sophia] OK, wait a minute.
Why are we doing it here
590
00:32:04,422 --> 00:32:06,157
and not at my house with
the rest of the footage?
591
00:32:06,190 --> 00:32:08,159
Because I don't want to
unplug the camera from the TV
592
00:32:08,192 --> 00:32:10,395
and I don't want to unplug
anything, I can't lose,
593
00:32:10,428 --> 00:32:12,764
I don't want to go away.
The last time we did it
on your computer,
594
00:32:12,797 --> 00:32:16,034
we had the tapes in my camera,
now it's in this,
595
00:32:16,067 --> 00:32:17,602
just let me do my thing
right now, OK?
596
00:32:17,635 --> 00:32:19,370
I got the time codes
written down.
597
00:32:19,404 --> 00:32:21,072
OK, but what are you doing?
598
00:32:24,042 --> 00:32:25,443
I just gotta show you.
599
00:32:29,580 --> 00:32:32,517
I gotta say this is
a real treat for me.
600
00:32:32,550 --> 00:32:36,220
You don't have any idea
how much you validate
601
00:32:36,254 --> 00:32:38,623
what I'm working on right now,
which is really great.
602
00:32:38,656 --> 00:32:40,625
Just feed this up through
your chain.
603
00:32:40,658 --> 00:32:43,628
So tell me about your role
in the documentary.
604
00:32:43,661 --> 00:32:45,697
Oh, it was, it was minimal.
605
00:32:45,730 --> 00:32:50,468
The two people came, they got in
touch with me, they came around
606
00:32:50,501 --> 00:32:55,573
and, yeah, we were here for an
hour or so and then they, then
they moved on.
607
00:32:55,606 --> 00:32:57,308
That was the last I saw
them, just once.
608
00:32:57,342 --> 00:33:00,578
Sophia, Feldman. How did they
get in touch with you?
609
00:33:00,611 --> 00:33:06,250
Email, was it phone, did they
call you, did somebody,
friend of a friend?
610
00:33:06,284 --> 00:33:08,486
I'm gonna tell you the truth,
I don't remember.
611
00:33:08,519 --> 00:33:10,121
It was a decade ago.
612
00:33:10,154 --> 00:33:13,257
When you got in touch with me,
I was...
613
00:33:13,291 --> 00:33:17,495
I searched my email archives and
didn't find anything there,
614
00:33:17,528 --> 00:33:21,733
if it was the phone, then, you
know, I don't keep phone
records.
615
00:33:21,766 --> 00:33:25,436
So, is there a reason why
Peeping Tom was excluded from
Weird Maryland,
616
00:33:25,470 --> 00:33:30,074
obviously the Ilchester tunnel
is in Maryland, any reason not
to include it?
617
00:33:30,108 --> 00:33:37,081
It just wasn't as strong a
story, I had that kind of a vibe
about it that felt more like
618
00:33:37,115 --> 00:33:39,650
what we call fakelore rather
than folklore.
619
00:33:39,684 --> 00:33:42,620
-OK.
-I have a lot more stories
620
00:33:42,653 --> 00:33:44,122
than I have pages to...
621
00:33:44,155 --> 00:33:46,357
Alright, let's talk about
the footage.
622
00:33:46,391 --> 00:33:50,495
I wasn't a part of it, you know,
I just watched it for a few...
623
00:33:50,528 --> 00:33:52,530
Sure, but as an expert,
624
00:33:52,563 --> 00:33:58,202
let's get an authoritative
kind of dissertation on that,
if you will.
625
00:33:58,236 --> 00:34:04,108
That thing at the end
of the tunnel with the...
626
00:34:04,142 --> 00:34:07,245
-Peeping Tom.
-Peeping Tom coming in,
627
00:34:07,278 --> 00:34:09,680
it was a very striking image,
628
00:34:09,714 --> 00:34:12,183
it was iconic,
it was an iconic image.
629
00:34:12,216 --> 00:34:15,720
Pretty scary.
What about what happened next?
630
00:34:21,559 --> 00:34:23,327
[Feldman] Are you rolling
on this, right?
631
00:34:23,361 --> 00:34:25,163
-Yeah.
-Alright.
632
00:34:25,196 --> 00:34:26,798
[Sophia] What are you trying
to show me?
633
00:34:26,831 --> 00:34:28,533
-[Feldman] Just watch.
-OK.
634
00:34:28,566 --> 00:34:30,134
[Feldman] There, did you see it?
635
00:34:30,168 --> 00:34:31,803
OK, no.
What am I looking for?
636
00:34:31,836 --> 00:34:33,237
-I'm gonna rewind.
-OK.
637
00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:38,309
[Feldman] Alright. Look in the
back on top of the building
on the left.
638
00:34:38,342 --> 00:34:39,844
There, there!
639
00:34:39,877 --> 00:34:42,280
[Sophia] OK, so it's like
a giant bird, right?
640
00:34:42,313 --> 00:34:44,882
No, it's not a giant bird.
641
00:34:44,916 --> 00:34:46,517
OK, what is it?
642
00:34:46,551 --> 00:34:47,885
What do you think it is?
643
00:34:49,153 --> 00:34:51,289
When I go to change the
battery and I turn out
and there!
644
00:34:51,322 --> 00:34:53,257
-[Sophia] Where am I looking?
-There!
645
00:34:53,291 --> 00:34:55,393
Right there,
next to the air duct.
646
00:34:55,426 --> 00:34:56,594
[Sophia] Wait a minute.
647
00:34:56,627 --> 00:34:58,196
[Feldman] But remember the spot.
648
00:34:58,229 --> 00:34:59,564
I'm gonna go forward.
649
00:34:59,597 --> 00:35:01,766
I remember,
we turned it off and...
650
00:35:01,799 --> 00:35:04,602
[Sophia] OK, wait a minute,
dude...
651
00:35:04,635 --> 00:35:07,338
[Feldman] This is as far
as I've got.
652
00:35:07,371 --> 00:35:09,307
[Sophia] OK, come on,
show me the other footage.
653
00:35:09,340 --> 00:35:12,276
-Alright, well...
-You got me a little excited.
654
00:35:12,310 --> 00:35:13,911
Oh, I'm running, run, run.
655
00:35:13,945 --> 00:35:15,546
-Did you see that?
-No!
656
00:35:15,580 --> 00:35:16,714
OK, OK, wait, wait!
657
00:35:16,747 --> 00:35:18,549
Play, play, alright.
658
00:35:18,583 --> 00:35:20,651
Get ready, ready, right there!
659
00:35:20,685 --> 00:35:22,320
-Oh, shit!
-Oh, shit!
660
00:35:22,353 --> 00:35:23,688
[Feldman] Rewind, rewind!
661
00:35:23,721 --> 00:35:25,590
Ready, don't blink!
662
00:35:26,657 --> 00:35:28,893
-Here! There, see that?
-That's right.
663
00:35:28,926 --> 00:35:31,863
-[Sophia] Got it!
-Press pause!
664
00:35:31,896 --> 00:35:33,531
-[Sophia] Pause.
-[Feldman] Bingo!
665
00:35:33,564 --> 00:35:35,199
[Sophia] Oh, right there.
666
00:35:35,233 --> 00:35:37,435
Oh, my gosh, dude,
it's fucking Blinkman!
667
00:35:37,468 --> 00:35:39,737
Yeah, the thing is
we're not the ones blinking,
668
00:35:39,770 --> 00:35:41,639
it's the camera that's blinking,
669
00:35:41,672 --> 00:35:43,541
so every time I'm making
a new clip, he's there.
670
00:35:43,574 --> 00:35:46,844
Yeah, wait a minute!
671
00:35:47,845 --> 00:35:52,483
Every single time we turn the
camera on and off and it blinks,
672
00:35:52,517 --> 00:35:55,653
he's almost,
he's getting closer.
673
00:35:57,622 --> 00:36:01,292
[Matt] Well, I had no idea I was
being involved with a film
674
00:36:01,325 --> 00:36:04,529
of that kind, it was kind of
scary, it was well constructed.
675
00:36:04,562 --> 00:36:08,666
So that was, so what we just
watched, your opinion is that
it's fake.
676
00:36:08,699 --> 00:36:12,637
That there's no Peeping Tom,
there's no, they didn't find
anything in that tunnel.
677
00:36:12,670 --> 00:36:13,938
-Yeah.
-This is all?
678
00:36:13,971 --> 00:36:16,674
-It looked like...
-All non-weird.
679
00:36:16,707 --> 00:36:19,410
-It's...
-It didn't make your book.
680
00:36:19,443 --> 00:36:21,345
What I'm just trying
to figure out is...
681
00:36:21,379 --> 00:36:23,781
Two human beings, alright,
these are two people,
682
00:36:23,814 --> 00:36:25,550
you are the only link
683
00:36:27,251 --> 00:36:30,788
to them even existing and I
called you, I explained to you
how important you were.
684
00:36:30,821 --> 00:36:35,626
It just seems to me that you're
not taking it as seriously
as I thought you would.
685
00:36:35,660 --> 00:36:37,261
As an esteemed author would.
686
00:36:37,295 --> 00:36:38,796
You're kind of brushing
it off a little bit,
687
00:36:38,829 --> 00:36:40,531
you live all the way out here,
688
00:36:40,565 --> 00:36:43,267
far away from anybody
to be able to track you down.
689
00:36:43,301 --> 00:36:45,937
You don't have emails
conveniently right after,
690
00:36:45,970 --> 00:36:49,373
right after they came
and talked to you.
"I don't remember who it was.
691
00:36:49,407 --> 00:36:52,276
I had a phone line that've been
bouncing my service back and
forth."
692
00:36:52,310 --> 00:36:54,812
Who does that?
Nobody bounces their
service back and forth.
693
00:36:54,845 --> 00:36:56,714
It just sounds to me like
a lot of conjecture, sir.
694
00:36:56,747 --> 00:36:59,850
You wouldn't be involved in
their disappearance, well then?
695
00:37:00,985 --> 00:37:04,388
-That's ridiculous!
-Is it so ridiculous?
696
00:37:04,422 --> 00:37:09,427
Because it's, it's...
I don't know, that was
a documentary!
697
00:37:09,460 --> 00:37:10,494
It was a documentary.
698
00:37:10,528 --> 00:37:11,696
Were you gonna say stupid?
699
00:37:11,729 --> 00:37:13,564
No, I'm not gonna say stupid!
700
00:37:13,598 --> 00:37:15,433
I can find stuff
that's pretty stupid.
701
00:37:15,466 --> 00:37:17,001
I mean, I know it's all
that year, but...
702
00:37:17,034 --> 00:37:18,569
But it's well put together.
703
00:37:18,603 --> 00:37:19,870
Look, can we cut this please?
704
00:37:19,904 --> 00:37:21,706
I'm done, I'm done! Sorry!
705
00:37:21,739 --> 00:37:23,641
-Would you like to leave,
please?
-No!
706
00:37:23,674 --> 00:37:26,877
Miller's castle, I just don't
understand why you're not...
707
00:37:26,911 --> 00:37:29,614
I just want you to answer
whether or not these people
708
00:37:29,647 --> 00:37:33,517
exist or not. I can get out of
here, I can validate this
whole thing.
709
00:37:33,551 --> 00:37:35,453
-I'm done, I'm done!
-Just seem awfully enough
710
00:37:35,486 --> 00:37:37,688
-weird to me!
-Turn this thing off, please!
711
00:37:38,623 --> 00:37:40,024
So all he ought to fucking do...
712
00:37:40,057 --> 00:37:42,326
was to answer
two goddamn questions.
713
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:46,464
"Did he know who Sophie and
Feldman were?" And:
714
00:37:46,497 --> 00:37:49,900
"Were they coming to make
a fake horror movie
715
00:37:49,934 --> 00:37:54,639
or were they're legitimate
documentarian filmmakers,
716
00:37:54,672 --> 00:37:57,742
looking to prove or
disprove...?"
717
00:37:59,143 --> 00:38:00,645
[honking] Fuck!
718
00:38:18,529 --> 00:38:21,799
Hi buddy, how are you doing?
719
00:38:23,434 --> 00:38:25,936
You want to give your dad a hug?
I missed you!
720
00:38:27,838 --> 00:38:30,408
Did you stay inside,
did you see the rain?
721
00:38:31,776 --> 00:38:33,644
Can I get a hug, please?
722
00:38:33,678 --> 00:38:34,979
[Carter] [unintelligible]
723
00:38:37,682 --> 00:38:39,050
[sighs]
724
00:38:42,453 --> 00:38:43,921
[Mel] How did it go?
725
00:38:45,089 --> 00:38:46,957
It didn't go well,
that's for sure.
726
00:38:48,959 --> 00:38:50,461
Why're you using my computer?
727
00:38:51,829 --> 00:38:53,431
Why is it your computer?
728
00:38:54,131 --> 00:38:56,167
It's got all my work on it!
729
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,637
I've started the computer
to do our finances.
730
00:38:59,670 --> 00:39:00,871
[Gavin] OK!
731
00:39:02,106 --> 00:39:05,710
-[Gavin] Alright!
-Talk?
732
00:39:06,944 --> 00:39:09,013
We're talking right now.
733
00:39:13,017 --> 00:39:17,988
You know these guys are
following me around, Mel,
sometimes the story comes out.
734
00:39:18,022 --> 00:39:21,926
Let's go in here.
Come on, we'll talk. Come on!
735
00:39:23,561 --> 00:39:24,862
[Mel] We had another letter.
736
00:39:27,832 --> 00:39:29,734
-[Mel] From the bank.
-OK.
737
00:39:32,002 --> 00:39:34,672
-[Mel] About our house.
-Well, just take
738
00:39:34,705 --> 00:39:36,974
-the money out of savings.
-We don't have savings!
739
00:39:37,007 --> 00:39:40,044
[Gavin] What about the budget
that we talked about on
Thanksgiving?
740
00:39:40,077 --> 00:39:42,446
Yeah, and then
your movie happened.
741
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:46,684
My movie. Listen, it's all gonna
be worth it in the end,
742
00:39:46,717 --> 00:39:51,055
as soon as this hits,
no more wedding jobs!
743
00:39:51,088 --> 00:39:53,657
[Gavin] This is it,
this is what it takes, OK?
744
00:39:53,691 --> 00:39:56,026
There's always gonna be
a tough time, alright?
745
00:39:56,060 --> 00:40:00,865
Isn't it gonna be great if
we can sit back and we can say,
"Carter, what happened?"
746
00:40:00,898 --> 00:40:03,801
[Mel] Carter!
Carter needs shoes.
747
00:40:03,834 --> 00:40:07,138
These guys in here right now,
I don't want to get into this
anymore.
748
00:40:07,171 --> 00:40:09,974
-Alright? We're done!
-Yeah! We're done.
749
00:40:10,007 --> 00:40:11,776
[Gavin] Done!
750
00:40:15,679 --> 00:40:18,015
[Feldman] OK, so the camera was
a test subject
751
00:40:18,048 --> 00:40:20,050
and stared without blinking for
the entire hour,
752
00:40:20,084 --> 00:40:22,820
then according to the legend
now sees Peeping Tom
753
00:40:22,853 --> 00:40:25,022
and every time it blinks,
he gets closer.
754
00:40:25,055 --> 00:40:26,891
So, in other words,
every time we turn it off
755
00:40:26,924 --> 00:40:28,893
and then on, or make a new clip.
756
00:40:28,926 --> 00:40:32,163
Yeah. There's our thesis,
he's in our camera.
757
00:40:32,196 --> 00:40:35,633
[Feldman] My camera, and yeah,
you know, first he's there
in the tunnel,
758
00:40:35,666 --> 00:40:37,635
and he was there
again when we met our adviser,
759
00:40:37,668 --> 00:40:39,603
and again when we went
to see the author,
760
00:40:39,637 --> 00:40:42,573
and in each case,
he got incrementally closer.
761
00:40:42,606 --> 00:40:48,078
But he's still hiding in the
frame, he's making this a game,
because no one will believe us,
762
00:40:48,112 --> 00:40:50,080
so we have to draw him
out in the open.
763
00:40:52,116 --> 00:40:54,485
Why I feel you're not
as excited about this as I am?
764
00:40:55,786 --> 00:40:58,923
Feldman, assuming this all
really happening...
765
00:40:58,956 --> 00:41:00,658
It's really happening!
766
00:41:00,691 --> 00:41:03,060
Do you realize what this means?
767
00:41:03,093 --> 00:41:05,963
Yeah, it means
we're filming him right now.
768
00:41:12,102 --> 00:41:13,838
OK, hey, turn it off,
turn it off.
769
00:41:13,871 --> 00:41:15,539
[Feldman] Oh, what's your
problem?
770
00:41:15,573 --> 00:41:17,541
My problem is that
I'm still directing this
771
00:41:17,575 --> 00:41:19,276
and I don't want this
camera on until we figure out
772
00:41:19,310 --> 00:41:21,312
what we're gonna do, OK?
Turn it off!
773
00:41:21,345 --> 00:41:25,916
OK, so the camera's... what was
that? Did you hear it?
774
00:41:25,950 --> 00:41:26,984
Yeah.
775
00:41:27,017 --> 00:41:28,752
[digital noise]
776
00:41:28,786 --> 00:41:31,255
It sounds like it's at the
beginning of each new clip.
777
00:41:31,288 --> 00:41:32,556
It's a digital...
778
00:41:32,590 --> 00:41:34,191
Something to do with
the camera, man,
779
00:41:34,225 --> 00:41:35,893
I mean it might be
a messed up camera...
780
00:41:35,926 --> 00:41:37,628
Something to do with the camera.
781
00:41:37,661 --> 00:41:39,597
Alright, Feldman,
just let me do the talking, OK?
782
00:41:39,630 --> 00:41:42,600
It's on every clip after
the bridge
783
00:41:42,633 --> 00:41:45,736
section, so that's gonna be
a lot of us going through
every piece.
784
00:41:45,769 --> 00:41:48,038
Wait a second,
every one after the bridge?
785
00:41:48,072 --> 00:41:50,574
So, as soon as
Peeping Tom shows up,
786
00:41:50,608 --> 00:41:53,077
this sound shows up at the same
time, is what you're saying.
787
00:41:53,110 --> 00:41:54,678
[digital noise]
788
00:41:57,014 --> 00:41:59,149
This is a little crazy, but it,
789
00:41:59,183 --> 00:42:04,622
it kind of,
kind of looks like Morse code.
790
00:42:04,655 --> 00:42:06,790
Like, why would it only show up
after the Peeping Tom?
791
00:42:06,824 --> 00:42:08,993
I don't know, you're the one
that's got it documented.
792
00:42:09,026 --> 00:42:10,995
I'm just asking you,
as a better person.
793
00:42:11,028 --> 00:42:13,264
-Documentary crew...
-What do you think
794
00:42:13,297 --> 00:42:15,332
as a human being?
Why would that show up like...
795
00:42:15,366 --> 00:42:17,801
I don't know, it's something
that you want us to see.
796
00:42:17,835 --> 00:42:20,838
I do think, it's not you, man,
maybe it's not even that
you put it in there,
797
00:42:20,871 --> 00:42:24,842
maybe it's that these guys did
when they shot this footage.
798
00:42:24,875 --> 00:42:26,677
This is a little crazy, though.
799
00:42:28,779 --> 00:42:30,247
What the fuck, shut the fuck up!
800
00:42:30,281 --> 00:42:33,350
-What?
-[Morse code]
801
00:42:33,384 --> 00:42:37,288
What does it translate to? Say
it out, say it out loud, please!
802
00:42:37,321 --> 00:42:39,890
-It says Blink.
-Alright, can you guys do me
803
00:42:39,924 --> 00:42:41,692
a favor?
Can you look at the camera?
804
00:42:41,725 --> 00:42:43,627
I believe that you've done
a good job of...
805
00:42:43,661 --> 00:42:46,063
Can you look at the camera?
I need you to authenticate this.
806
00:42:46,096 --> 00:42:48,132
-I need your help.
-Authenticate it?
807
00:42:48,165 --> 00:42:50,701
Just stare in the camera and
808
00:42:50,734 --> 00:42:53,304
say what you
just found for them.
809
00:42:53,337 --> 00:42:56,974
I think it's completely faked.
810
00:42:57,007 --> 00:42:58,909
[laughs]
811
00:42:58,943 --> 00:43:00,644
Whoever shot the footage,
812
00:43:00,678 --> 00:43:02,913
these people that supposedly
aren't around anymore,
813
00:43:02,947 --> 00:43:05,316
they clearly put
this sound in there.
814
00:43:05,349 --> 00:43:09,219
OK, so maybe they did it,
to so whoever...
815
00:43:09,253 --> 00:43:12,289
So if the guy gives the tape...
whoever finds the footage
816
00:43:12,323 --> 00:43:14,658
and then uncovers
this Morse code
817
00:43:14,692 --> 00:43:17,761
or this specific sound that
happens every time.
818
00:43:17,795 --> 00:43:20,164
That's a lot of work, they would
have had to shot the footage,
819
00:43:20,197 --> 00:43:22,733
offload it, edit it and put it
back on DV tapes.
820
00:43:22,766 --> 00:43:24,335
Yeah, OK, well...
821
00:43:24,368 --> 00:43:26,904
-And then, and then...
-He could have done that too.
822
00:43:26,937 --> 00:43:30,007
We don't know, man, we don't
know where these tapes were
before they came here.
823
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:31,809
He's coming here
and he tells us a story,
824
00:43:31,842 --> 00:43:33,844
then we either believe
or we don't believe.
825
00:43:33,877 --> 00:43:35,312
[mystery noise]
826
00:43:37,781 --> 00:43:39,750
Blink test, take one.
827
00:43:44,922 --> 00:43:46,357
Blink test, take two.
828
00:43:48,359 --> 00:43:50,160
Blink test, take three.
829
00:43:52,396 --> 00:43:54,832
Blink test, take seven.
830
00:43:54,865 --> 00:43:56,867
Blink test, take 13.
831
00:43:56,900 --> 00:43:57,968
Blink test, take 19.
832
00:43:58,002 --> 00:43:59,303
Blink test, take 25.
833
00:43:59,336 --> 00:44:01,305
Blink test, take 32.
834
00:44:01,338 --> 00:44:03,007
Blink test, take 40.
835
00:44:04,008 --> 00:44:06,377
[digital noise]
836
00:44:06,410 --> 00:44:10,247
I do not believe
that this video is authentic.
837
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:14,151
One thing that's really
suspicious to me is that
it always appears
838
00:44:14,184 --> 00:44:18,822
and disappears, like either
off-screen or behind something.
839
00:44:20,891 --> 00:44:22,960
The one where the car goes past
840
00:44:22,993 --> 00:44:26,063
like that's just like another
really common trick
841
00:44:26,096 --> 00:44:29,400
to use to make a ghost disappear
if you're hoaxing a video.
842
00:44:29,433 --> 00:44:31,468
I guess here's two points about
the blink test
843
00:44:31,502 --> 00:44:33,037
that seemed very suspicious.
844
00:44:33,070 --> 00:44:34,505
One is that
845
00:44:34,538 --> 00:44:36,273
Feldman steps in front
of the camera
846
00:44:36,306 --> 00:44:38,075
every time he turned it on.
847
00:44:38,108 --> 00:44:39,977
The record button's
on the back of the camera
848
00:44:40,010 --> 00:44:41,979
and it just seems
like a convenient way
849
00:44:42,012 --> 00:44:43,881
to reveal the figure.
850
00:44:43,914 --> 00:44:45,149
Like they...
851
00:44:45,182 --> 00:44:46,817
I know making it black and white
852
00:44:46,850 --> 00:44:49,153
is a film student's
stylistic choice,
853
00:44:49,186 --> 00:44:51,755
but it certainly makes it easier
854
00:44:51,789 --> 00:44:55,092
to hide effects
and hide manipulation.
855
00:44:56,460 --> 00:44:58,996
-[Gavin] Let's talk
about metadata.
-OK.
856
00:44:59,029 --> 00:45:03,901
Alright, the metadata.
There are timestamps that show
the progression of events.
857
00:45:03,934 --> 00:45:05,335
You can fake that.
858
00:45:05,369 --> 00:45:07,771
You're accusing me of faking
this whole thing.
859
00:45:07,805 --> 00:45:10,874
Look, I don't know you,
I'm not gonna say that...
860
00:45:10,908 --> 00:45:13,444
No, but you'll take my money,
you'll take my money, though.
861
00:45:13,477 --> 00:45:16,780
For my opinion,
which I'm giving you.
862
00:45:16,814 --> 00:45:21,919
[Gavin] But we got the
ghost group which isn't too bad,
863
00:45:21,952 --> 00:45:25,189
[Erik]
It seems like they
were sort of your last resort.
864
00:45:25,222 --> 00:45:26,790
[sighs]
865
00:45:26,824 --> 00:45:27,925
They were,
866
00:45:27,958 --> 00:45:29,460
but they have a lot of reach
867
00:45:29,493 --> 00:45:31,295
and if they believe in orbs...
868
00:45:32,496 --> 00:45:37,334
I mean, this is certainly a lot
bigger, more real than orbs.
869
00:45:37,367 --> 00:45:39,970
And there you have it, folks,
870
00:45:40,003 --> 00:45:45,209
the footage, the found footage
I've assembled for you today.
871
00:45:45,242 --> 00:45:48,812
With your help, we can figure
out the mystery, together,
872
00:45:48,846 --> 00:45:51,849
and that's why it's very,
very crucial
873
00:45:53,584 --> 00:45:56,153
you know, that you follow me
on this quest.
874
00:45:56,186 --> 00:45:57,521
Any questions?
875
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,196
No questions! Can I count on
your support? Yes, ma'am.
876
00:46:06,230 --> 00:46:09,133
You don't know that they didn't
have somebody to do this,
877
00:46:09,166 --> 00:46:12,035
you don't know if any of this
is real, you don't know what
they do...
878
00:46:12,069 --> 00:46:14,438
You're right, ma'am, and that's
why we're here this evening,
879
00:46:14,471 --> 00:46:16,106
because if I knew
if it was real,
880
00:46:16,140 --> 00:46:17,341
then I wouldn't need you, folks.
881
00:46:17,374 --> 00:46:18,509
If he's at the end of the tunnel
882
00:46:18,542 --> 00:46:20,177
and those are railroad ties,
883
00:46:20,210 --> 00:46:21,845
he'd have to be about
six feet wide.
884
00:46:21,879 --> 00:46:22,980
Six feet wide.
885
00:46:23,013 --> 00:46:24,581
There's nobody in that video
886
00:46:24,615 --> 00:46:27,050
that you could find in public
records to speak with?
887
00:46:27,084 --> 00:46:28,919
I did find this Matt Lake,
888
00:46:28,952 --> 00:46:31,421
he's an author of a book
called
Weird Maryland,
889
00:46:31,455 --> 00:46:34,124
which you can pick up if you
want to, I mean I don't
recommend it.
890
00:46:34,158 --> 00:46:37,394
I find it very hard to believe
that people who come up in
front of your group
891
00:46:37,427 --> 00:46:39,229
constantly get grilled
like this,
892
00:46:39,263 --> 00:46:42,366
it seems to me that everybody
be in, everybody be into it.
893
00:46:42,399 --> 00:46:44,134
I'd say this would be
enough to warrant
894
00:46:44,168 --> 00:46:47,237
an investigation and a
recreation of the experiment.
895
00:46:47,271 --> 00:46:53,544
Paranormal groups need more than
just a piece of visual evidence
896
00:46:53,577 --> 00:46:57,014
to be able to methodologically
897
00:46:57,047 --> 00:46:59,149
quantify and qualify an event.
898
00:46:59,183 --> 00:47:00,951
We would need audio,
we would need...
899
00:47:00,984 --> 00:47:04,588
Sir, sir, all the fancy words
aside, I get what you're saying.
900
00:47:04,621 --> 00:47:07,424
All I'm asking you to do, is
either believe it or you don't
901
00:47:07,457 --> 00:47:09,193
and you want to go investigate
it or you don't.
902
00:47:09,226 --> 00:47:11,528
I'd like to know what kind of
medications that you take?
903
00:47:11,562 --> 00:47:13,597
I, ma'am, I think that
that's extremely rude
904
00:47:13,630 --> 00:47:16,066
and I don't think
that has any bearing on that.
905
00:47:16,099 --> 00:47:19,336
I'd like to ask you what
medications you're on
to ask such questions?
906
00:47:19,369 --> 00:47:21,371
When you get a film
on Bloody Mary,
907
00:47:21,405 --> 00:47:23,540
maybe we'll think about it,
908
00:47:23,574 --> 00:47:26,443
but this is a crock and we want
nothing to do with it.
909
00:47:26,476 --> 00:47:31,448
And that's inspired ghost
tracking. Now, we're not going
out to investigate with you.
910
00:47:31,481 --> 00:47:36,253
I'm pretty sure that inspired
ghost tracking...
911
00:47:36,286 --> 00:47:39,189
This is not gonna be the last
time that you hear about me.
912
00:47:39,223 --> 00:47:40,324
Is this the exit door?
913
00:47:41,558 --> 00:47:45,229
No orbs out there, but thank
you very much, I appreciate it.
914
00:47:45,262 --> 00:47:52,035
I'm sure that you'll be hearing
from me in the future and
yeah...
915
00:47:52,069 --> 00:47:53,370
[ironic applause]
916
00:48:03,113 --> 00:48:04,414
Turn off the camera, please!
917
00:48:06,516 --> 00:48:08,619
I don't want to deal
with it right now.
918
00:48:10,153 --> 00:48:12,222
And there he fucking is.
919
00:48:12,256 --> 00:48:14,625
Now, our problem is that any
time that we moved the camera,
920
00:48:14,658 --> 00:48:17,527
whether we were just moving
the camera or we were
in a car or walking,
921
00:48:17,561 --> 00:48:19,496
he was able to flip in
and out of the screen, so,
922
00:48:19,529 --> 00:48:21,098
we couldn't keep track of him,
923
00:48:21,131 --> 00:48:23,100
but if I leave
the camera where it is,
924
00:48:23,133 --> 00:48:25,502
then he's stuck and I got it
where I fucking want him!
925
00:48:25,535 --> 00:48:28,639
Now, what we really need to
get right now, is we need to
get the ending.
926
00:48:29,773 --> 00:48:32,476
Now, the most logical thing
for me to think of is, you know,
927
00:48:32,509 --> 00:48:34,611
it's the closeups
as a grand reveal.
928
00:48:36,513 --> 00:48:38,515
Why are you filming me with
the Handycam?
929
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,489
You're afraid of my camera.
930
00:48:46,423 --> 00:48:49,526
Well, that figures, I mean
directors, you always had this
vision and you think
931
00:48:49,559 --> 00:48:53,330
what you want to do with it,
but behind the camera,
you have no fucking idea!
932
00:48:54,331 --> 00:48:57,634
He keeps on getting closer
and that's where he needs
to stay.
933
00:49:00,570 --> 00:49:03,674
He's on my camera!
934
00:49:05,042 --> 00:49:07,311
[pager ringtone]
935
00:49:09,813 --> 00:49:12,149
Oh, shit!
936
00:49:12,182 --> 00:49:13,583
Oh, shit!
937
00:49:16,420 --> 00:49:18,055
Hey, well, look...
938
00:49:19,723 --> 00:49:23,393
[Sophia] What are you up to
with all these journals here?
939
00:49:26,830 --> 00:49:28,065
Wait a minute.
940
00:49:31,735 --> 00:49:35,072
[whispering] That's some
kind of [inaudible]
941
00:49:36,406 --> 00:49:38,742
[electronic noise in the
background]
942
00:49:46,183 --> 00:49:50,420
OK, Butterfly Kisses,
video diary, whatever, right.
943
00:49:51,388 --> 00:49:54,725
So, I don't really want to
accuse Feldman of doing anything
944
00:49:54,758 --> 00:49:57,127
and I'm not even saying
that he's lying, OK?
945
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:58,729
I really do respect him.
946
00:49:58,762 --> 00:50:01,465
But after reading his diary
a little while ago,
947
00:50:01,498 --> 00:50:04,267
and him having
the diagrams of everything,
948
00:50:04,301 --> 00:50:06,803
I just want to record this
for posterity and just
949
00:50:06,837 --> 00:50:12,509
make sure that everyone knows
that I have my doubts about
this entire project, OK?
950
00:50:12,542 --> 00:50:14,778
Right now,
I have doubts about everything.
951
00:50:14,811 --> 00:50:17,080
Honestly, what could be worse?
952
00:50:17,114 --> 00:50:19,449
Knowing that Peeping Tom could
come and get me at any moment
953
00:50:19,483 --> 00:50:22,219
or just being humiliated
by the entire thing,
954
00:50:22,252 --> 00:50:25,389
knowing that Feldman can show
this at the student
film festival
955
00:50:25,422 --> 00:50:27,758
and I look like a fucking ass!
956
00:50:27,791 --> 00:50:30,861
I'm just gonna have to roll
with it and hope the fella
isn't fucking with me,
957
00:50:30,894 --> 00:50:33,397
like I'm really,
really starting to believe.
958
00:50:33,430 --> 00:50:35,465
[music intensifies]
959
00:50:38,135 --> 00:50:39,569
[mystery music]
960
00:50:44,241 --> 00:50:48,612
[Erik]
First off, you gave us
the footage and we wanted to see
961
00:50:48,645 --> 00:50:50,547
all of those things that
you cut out.
962
00:50:52,482 --> 00:50:55,819
Can you please tell us,
can you tell us what
Portraits
of Dead Friends
was?
963
00:50:58,789 --> 00:51:03,794
We actually ended up winning
our student film festival,
Best Feature Award for it.
964
00:51:03,827 --> 00:51:07,531
[David] The same two filmmakers,
Sophia and Feldman, made a movie
965
00:51:07,564 --> 00:51:10,267
called
Portraits of Dead
Friends
in which they wanted
to make
966
00:51:10,300 --> 00:51:12,135
a film about people
who were deceased,
967
00:51:12,169 --> 00:51:14,271
but they didn't want to do the
usual kind of, you know:
968
00:51:14,304 --> 00:51:17,407
"He was a wonderful person
and he was born
in such and such place."
969
00:51:17,441 --> 00:51:23,146
So instead, they went to the
photograph that appeared with
the person's obituary.
970
00:51:24,247 --> 00:51:27,250
Well, A. That has nothing to
do with Peeping Tom.
971
00:51:27,284 --> 00:51:29,553
[Erik]
It has everything
to do with Peeping Tom!
972
00:51:29,586 --> 00:51:32,289
[laughing] I didn't want you to
bring that on, oh my gosh!
973
00:51:32,322 --> 00:51:34,291
[Feldman] I'm glad you
laughed at it.
974
00:51:34,324 --> 00:51:36,793
-I mean, I'm not good about it.
-You seem pretty OK with it.
975
00:51:36,827 --> 00:51:39,796
Ok, look, the girl's sister
didn't want to talk about her.
976
00:51:39,830 --> 00:51:45,769
It was a really good story, so
we got a freaking actor in
there, big deal.
977
00:51:45,802 --> 00:51:47,604
[Erik]
As documentary
filmmakers,
978
00:51:47,637 --> 00:51:49,606
they were willing
to have an actor
979
00:51:49,639 --> 00:51:51,575
play a person
and accept award for it.
980
00:51:51,608 --> 00:51:53,176
Sure.
981
00:51:53,210 --> 00:51:55,245
Do you think
Portraits
was enough...
982
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,883
-without that story?
-[Sophia] What do you mean
"Do you think
983
00:51:59,916 --> 00:52:01,685
Portraits
was
enough without that story"?
984
00:52:01,718 --> 00:52:03,720
There's five stories,
what story?
985
00:52:03,753 --> 00:52:05,622
You know what story
I'm talking about.
986
00:52:06,923 --> 00:52:08,258
Diana's?
987
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:14,331
The one that we, you know...
988
00:52:14,364 --> 00:52:17,601
[Steve] I'm not sure about
Feldman, he's got a bit of an
attitude,
989
00:52:17,634 --> 00:52:20,904
because he wants to be the
director, he wants to be the
top dog.
990
00:52:20,937 --> 00:52:24,641
Maybe there was some resentment
going on there.
991
00:52:24,674 --> 00:52:28,345
[Erik]
I found a clip
where Feldman
992
00:52:28,378 --> 00:52:33,283
is saying that he did not win an
award, that it was just Sophia.
993
00:52:33,316 --> 00:52:36,653
[Sophia] What did you do
with your award?
994
00:52:36,686 --> 00:52:38,355
[Feldman] I didn't get one.
995
00:52:38,388 --> 00:52:41,358
Wait, what do you mean,
you didn't get one?
996
00:52:41,391 --> 00:52:47,998
I mean, Dr. Wolfe only gave it
to you, and it only has
your name on it!
997
00:52:48,031 --> 00:52:49,966
Are you serious?
998
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:54,638
Feldman turns out to have his
own mildly unscrupulous streak,
999
00:52:54,671 --> 00:52:56,806
because he starts to suggest,
1000
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,509
there are things we could do
1001
00:52:59,543 --> 00:53:02,679
if we don't get the image that
we're hoping to get.
1002
00:53:04,814 --> 00:53:06,883
There's other things.
1003
00:53:06,917 --> 00:53:09,719
[Sophia] Like what, like visual
effects, kind of thing?
1004
00:53:12,622 --> 00:53:14,491
Something like that.
1005
00:53:14,524 --> 00:53:18,295
So we have then at least three
possibilities here.
1006
00:53:18,328 --> 00:53:20,830
We have the possibility that
this whole thing is real,
1007
00:53:20,864 --> 00:53:22,799
that they caught the image
of Peeping Tom.
1008
00:53:22,832 --> 00:53:25,702
We have the possibility of two
of them got together,
1009
00:53:25,735 --> 00:53:30,674
to put together this largely
plausible hoax
1010
00:53:30,707 --> 00:53:34,978
and we have the possibility
that one of them put together
a hoax on the other one.
1011
00:53:35,011 --> 00:53:38,415
At least those
three possibilities.
1012
00:53:38,448 --> 00:53:40,617
I need to say...
1013
00:53:40,650 --> 00:53:46,423
I guess my initial prejudice was
the slacker who was kind of
quiet in the background,
1014
00:53:46,456 --> 00:53:50,694
was the X-factor, yeah, he was
the instigator of the fiction
1015
00:53:50,727 --> 00:53:52,996
Butterfly Kisses,
video diary one.
1016
00:53:53,029 --> 00:54:00,704
On reflection, it seems much
more to me as though Sophia,
she maybe crossed the line.
1017
00:54:00,737 --> 00:54:05,408
You know, when you've invested
a lot of time in a story and the
deadline's coming up,
1018
00:54:05,442 --> 00:54:08,812
the temptation is, yeah,
how do I make this a good story?
1019
00:54:08,845 --> 00:54:15,452
Unfortunately I can't prove that
Peeping Tom wasn't anything more
than just an actor and a hat.
1020
00:54:15,485 --> 00:54:18,888
Which is kind of sucks, because
I don't know what I'm gonna do
from here.
1021
00:54:20,991 --> 00:54:22,993
I guess, I'm just gonna need
a new angle.
1022
00:54:23,026 --> 00:54:25,829
[Matt] And then, everything
from that that point onwards
1023
00:54:25,862 --> 00:54:29,899
was a collaboration
in this fiction.
1024
00:54:33,937 --> 00:54:35,672
It wasn't relevant to the story.
1025
00:54:37,607 --> 00:54:39,643
[Erik]
What about the scene
where they're standing in
the old Ilchester Tunnel,
1026
00:54:39,676 --> 00:54:43,780
and Feldman is saying if this
doesn't work with the camera
looking through the tunnel,
1027
00:54:45,148 --> 00:54:47,617
w could do a special effect.
1028
00:54:47,651 --> 00:54:51,788
I mean that's, I think that's
desperate times and spitballing,
1029
00:54:51,821 --> 00:54:53,857
you know, it's just talk,
it's all loose talk.
1030
00:54:53,890 --> 00:54:55,892
When someone wants,
you know,
1031
00:54:55,925 --> 00:54:57,627
just to speak their truth
and to bring it out
1032
00:54:57,661 --> 00:55:00,030
to other people and to kind of
have that position
1033
00:55:00,063 --> 00:55:03,466
of leadership and fame and
everything else,
1034
00:55:03,500 --> 00:55:07,904
they will cherry-pick certain
things that support what
they're doing.
1035
00:55:07,937 --> 00:55:11,675
Your brain is not consciously
cherry-picking,
1036
00:55:11,708 --> 00:55:13,810
it is more of an
unconscious thing.
1037
00:55:13,843 --> 00:55:16,713
So, it's very easy for someone,
1038
00:55:16,746 --> 00:55:18,915
as they're starting to get in
1039
00:55:18,948 --> 00:55:24,854
to, you know, kind of an
obsessive behavior or a delusion
is starting to be created
1040
00:55:24,888 --> 00:55:29,926
where the look at a piece of
evidence and the things that
highlight for them,
1041
00:55:29,959 --> 00:55:34,397
they zoom and sink into the
brain immediately and then the
things that don't,
1042
00:55:34,431 --> 00:55:36,800
the brain automatically
kind of just
1043
00:55:36,833 --> 00:55:39,436
sections them off like they
don't even exist.
1044
00:55:39,469 --> 00:55:44,874
Gavin York's decision to take
that material out
1045
00:55:46,042 --> 00:55:49,846
suggests a manipulative,
1046
00:55:49,879 --> 00:55:53,116
a very strong manipulative
intent on his part.
1047
00:55:53,149 --> 00:55:56,119
If you're working with
all these elements, you can,
1048
00:55:56,152 --> 00:55:58,588
journalistically speaking,
you can construct the...
1049
00:55:58,621 --> 00:56:03,126
You run the story out of
whatever footage you choose
to put in there.
1050
00:56:03,159 --> 00:56:05,562
[Steve]
If he took these scenes out,
1051
00:56:05,595 --> 00:56:10,166
then he had a particular
reason for doing it.
1052
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:13,436
Why he's allowing you to put
them back in
1053
00:56:13,470 --> 00:56:17,006
or to utilize them in some way,
It's interesting.
1054
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,042
I mean, there's, there's...
Pardon?
1055
00:56:19,075 --> 00:56:21,911
-[Erik]
He signed a release.
-Yeah.
1056
00:56:21,945 --> 00:56:23,613
He authorized the use
of the footage
1057
00:56:23,646 --> 00:56:24,681
in this documentary.
1058
00:56:25,915 --> 00:56:27,117
[Erik]
There, there are
people who suggested that
1059
00:56:27,150 --> 00:56:29,919
perhaps Gavin shot this himself.
1060
00:56:29,953 --> 00:56:31,755
Do you feel that's...
1061
00:56:31,788 --> 00:56:34,591
I don't think that's true.
1062
00:56:34,624 --> 00:56:38,495
Simply because,
when would he have done it?
1063
00:56:38,528 --> 00:56:41,998
I mean, my mom found the tapes
in the basement, so...
1064
00:56:42,031 --> 00:56:45,468
[Erik]
Why do you own
a Panasonic DVX100?
1065
00:56:48,505 --> 00:56:54,477
-That's the camera that Feldman
filmed the documentary on.
-OK.
1066
00:56:54,511 --> 00:56:56,913
They say he goes away
on a lot of trips.
1067
00:56:56,946 --> 00:56:59,516
Yeah, he goes
where the weddings are.
1068
00:57:00,717 --> 00:57:03,620
Does the money all match up?
1069
00:57:03,653 --> 00:57:04,988
Usually!
1070
00:57:09,759 --> 00:57:10,860
[digital noise]
1071
00:57:10,894 --> 00:57:12,595
Stop!
1072
00:57:14,063 --> 00:57:17,734
[noise intensifies and
interferes with his words]
1073
00:57:17,767 --> 00:57:19,135
I want the tapes!
1074
00:57:28,945 --> 00:57:30,847
[digital noise in the
background]
1075
00:57:35,185 --> 00:57:37,554
What happened to your face?
1076
00:57:37,587 --> 00:57:40,890
-It itched.
-Are you on something?
1077
00:57:42,225 --> 00:57:46,896
No, I thought the lashes
would tick over the itch.
1078
00:57:46,930 --> 00:57:48,865
And the camera,
1079
00:57:50,099 --> 00:57:52,135
I locked it in the basement.
1080
00:57:52,168 --> 00:57:54,103
I threw away the battery!
1081
00:57:55,104 --> 00:57:57,207
And when I woke up from
sleeping, it was back.
1082
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:02,011
It was taping me,
he was taping me.
1083
00:58:02,045 --> 00:58:05,648
Do you think it was me that
pressed record for this?
1084
00:58:05,682 --> 00:58:11,721
No, he knew you were coming,
that's how I knew you were
coming.
1085
00:58:11,754 --> 00:58:16,059
I'm gonna get the ending that
he aimed for before he does,
1086
00:58:16,092 --> 00:58:19,128
but then it's all on you,
you got the tapes.
1087
00:58:19,162 --> 00:58:23,967
But I'm gonna get all the
footage, you finish this movie
like you said you would!
1088
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:25,535
Remember?
1089
00:58:26,236 --> 00:58:28,238
And then he's coming after you.
1090
00:58:29,806 --> 00:58:30,874
You're next.
1091
00:58:30,907 --> 00:58:33,009
[footsteps moving away]
1092
00:58:34,010 --> 00:58:36,012
But you'll win another award!
1093
00:58:41,017 --> 00:58:42,151
[violent noise]
1094
00:58:45,889 --> 00:58:50,193
This is my new delivery system
1095
00:58:50,226 --> 00:58:54,063
www.butterflykissesmovie.com.
1096
00:58:54,097 --> 00:58:58,301
-[over the phone]
Hello!
-Hi there, I'm looking for
Miss Joanne Tillman?
1097
00:58:59,936 --> 00:59:02,739
She's not available right now,
may I take a message?
1098
00:59:02,772 --> 00:59:04,874
Yeah, this is Gavin York
calling,
1099
00:59:04,908 --> 00:59:09,913
this is actually the seventh
time that I've called in the
past three days.
1100
00:59:09,946 --> 00:59:13,616
On Friday,
when the timer runs down,
1101
00:59:13,650 --> 00:59:15,852
from midnight to 1 a.m.,
1102
00:59:15,885 --> 00:59:20,390
viewers around the world will be
able to watch footage,
1103
00:59:20,423 --> 00:59:22,058
the found footage,
1104
00:59:22,091 --> 00:59:25,728
and be able to make their own
assessment of it.
1105
00:59:25,762 --> 00:59:27,630
We're gonna get it out
on the world, so...
1106
00:59:27,664 --> 00:59:29,933
[Erik]
What's gonna
happen after the 24 hours?
1107
00:59:29,966 --> 00:59:34,103
The website's gonna be shut
down, you're not gonna be able
to see it anymore.
1108
00:59:34,137 --> 00:59:35,705
[Erik]
What do you expect
to happen then?
1109
00:59:35,738 --> 00:59:39,142
The phone does never stop
ringing after that.
1110
00:59:39,175 --> 00:59:40,910
[Erik]
So you'll sell it
to the highest bidder?
1111
00:59:40,944 --> 00:59:46,115
Or one, just, you know,
moderate. One, so yeah, yeah.
1112
00:59:46,149 --> 00:59:47,750
I'm not trying to be a jerk,
1113
00:59:47,784 --> 00:59:49,786
I just want to find out
how I can speak with
1114
00:59:49,819 --> 00:59:52,689
Miss Tillman and
give her some information about
1115
00:59:52,722 --> 00:59:56,359
a local community event that
I've got going on on Friday.
1116
00:59:56,392 --> 00:59:58,328
[beat music in the background]
1117
00:59:58,361 --> 00:59:59,629
Hello...
1118
01:00:03,766 --> 01:00:06,202
Hello!
1119
01:00:06,235 --> 01:00:08,905
[Erik]
How many,
how many newspapers in...
1120
01:00:08,938 --> 01:00:09,973
All of them.
1121
01:00:10,907 --> 01:00:12,942
-[Erik]
Already all?
-All of them.
1122
01:00:12,976 --> 01:00:14,210
And you see how it is?
1123
01:00:14,243 --> 01:00:15,778
You heard it for yourself,
1124
01:00:15,812 --> 01:00:18,314
they don't give a shit!
Hang up, hang up!
1125
01:00:18,348 --> 01:00:20,249
I mean, unless you...
1126
01:00:21,851 --> 01:00:23,419
Do you know somebody?
1127
01:00:23,453 --> 01:00:25,722
[Erik]
You know, we can't
get involved.
1128
01:00:26,489 --> 01:00:28,358
We have to stay
on this side of the camera.
1129
01:00:28,391 --> 01:00:30,927
Stay on that side of the camera
if you want to, man.
1130
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:36,699
I mean, I don't know why you
guys want to sit here and film
me, and not get involved,
1131
01:00:36,733 --> 01:00:39,836
because you're just wasting
your time too.
1132
01:00:39,869 --> 01:00:43,406
There's no ending to
this movie whatsoever.
1133
01:00:43,439 --> 01:00:45,375
You get an awesome ending
for your movie,
1134
01:00:45,408 --> 01:00:47,477
I get an awesome
ending for my movie.
1135
01:00:47,510 --> 01:00:51,881
Nobody's lying, nobody's saying
anything fake, alright?
1136
01:00:52,882 --> 01:00:57,286
All I'm asking for is one
telephone number and a name.
1137
01:00:58,521 --> 01:01:02,925
And that we can go, and we can
speak to that person and we can
put this whole story out there.
1138
01:01:02,959 --> 01:01:04,227
I don't think...
1139
01:01:06,162 --> 01:01:07,397
it's cheating
1140
01:01:08,431 --> 01:01:10,700
if it's for the great reward.
1141
01:01:11,467 --> 01:01:14,037
[Mike] It's DC 101,
I'm Mike Jones and
1142
01:01:14,070 --> 01:01:15,805
in studio today I've been
talking about
1143
01:01:15,838 --> 01:01:18,207
this found footage all
week,
Butterfly Kisses.
1144
01:01:18,241 --> 01:01:20,510
Gavin York, the guy that
discovered this footage,
1145
01:01:20,543 --> 01:01:22,745
and you could see it for
yourself, if you haven't yet,
1146
01:01:22,779 --> 01:01:25,415
until midnight tonight at
butterflykissesmovie.com.
1147
01:01:25,448 --> 01:01:27,083
Gavin York,
how you doing, brother?
1148
01:01:27,116 --> 01:01:28,284
I'm doing great, thanks for...
1149
01:01:28,317 --> 01:01:29,886
I just don't understand the deal
1150
01:01:29,919 --> 01:01:31,421
with this guy, man,
1151
01:01:31,454 --> 01:01:34,357
why are you filming him,
what's in it for you with this?
1152
01:01:34,390 --> 01:01:36,426
[Erik]
It's supposed to be
1153
01:01:36,459 --> 01:01:40,096
a really fantastic, fascinated
character study. And then it is!
1154
01:01:40,129 --> 01:01:41,964
Nobody wants to come to...
1155
01:01:41,998 --> 01:01:44,300
Because this has been done
a thousand times before.
1156
01:01:44,333 --> 01:01:45,868
And we think it's a scam.
1157
01:01:45,902 --> 01:01:47,870
I'm not the only one,
it's everyone!
1158
01:01:47,904 --> 01:01:49,906
[Erik]
I know, but that's the
problem that I've got right now,
1159
01:01:49,939 --> 01:01:51,941
I've got hours and hours of
footage that we've shot,
1160
01:01:51,974 --> 01:01:54,077
but we don't have an ending to
this documentary.
1161
01:01:54,110 --> 01:01:56,345
[whispering]
1162
01:01:58,347 --> 01:02:01,417
And you give me this
opportunity to...
1163
01:02:01,451 --> 01:02:05,321
-This is the...
-This is amazing!
1164
01:02:05,354 --> 01:02:07,490
[distant chatter]
1165
01:02:08,424 --> 01:02:10,393
It's alright, I got your back.
1166
01:02:10,426 --> 01:02:15,198
-Just don't [inaudible]...
-Alright.
1167
01:02:15,231 --> 01:02:19,135
[Mike on speaker] Alright, well,
we'll see what the people have
to say, it's 8669 1 DC 101.
1168
01:02:19,168 --> 01:02:20,837
Hi, DC 101!
1169
01:02:20,870 --> 01:02:22,839
[caller]
Yeah, you actually
think there's
1170
01:02:22,872 --> 01:02:25,508
anyone stupid enough
to fall for that?
1171
01:02:26,843 --> 01:02:30,179
[caller]
The video quality
sucks, it's all fake.
1172
01:02:30,213 --> 01:02:32,281
Gavin, do you have anything
to say?
1173
01:02:32,315 --> 01:02:36,185
Well, I mean, this would be
something in 2004 to address
with them!
1174
01:02:36,219 --> 01:02:39,589
[caller chuckles]
No man, you
totally didn't do this in 2004,
you did this just now.
1175
01:02:39,622 --> 01:02:42,825
I didn't do anything in 2004,
I just assembled it now.
1176
01:02:42,859 --> 01:02:44,360
I'm not trying to profit
off anything.
1177
01:02:44,393 --> 01:02:46,095
[Mike]
Have you looked for them?
1178
01:02:46,129 --> 01:02:47,296
[caller]
Take it
to the police...
1179
01:02:47,330 --> 01:02:49,031
[voices overlapping]
1180
01:02:49,065 --> 01:02:50,900
[caller]
...just check it out,
that's bogus.
1181
01:02:50,933 --> 01:02:53,169
Gavin, skepticism is just
everywhere.
1182
01:02:53,202 --> 01:02:56,072
-Yes, a lot of hatred out there.
-A little bit, a little bit.
1183
01:02:56,105 --> 01:02:58,508
[caller]
Hang it up and
find something else that you
might be good at.
1184
01:02:58,541 --> 01:03:02,111
[caller]
Change yourself,
because you're trying to profit
off of somebody's death.
1185
01:03:02,145 --> 01:03:05,081
[caller]
You think that people
are gonna fall for this
[inaudible].
1186
01:03:05,114 --> 01:03:07,083
[caller]
Showing a hoax it's...
1187
01:03:07,116 --> 01:03:09,585
[caller]
The second I spent
watching that piece of...
1188
01:03:09,619 --> 01:03:11,320
[caller] You seem like a
stoner...
1189
01:03:11,354 --> 01:03:12,989
[caller]
...whichever project...
1190
01:03:13,022 --> 01:03:14,991
[caller]
...wrong about this,
cursed....
1191
01:03:15,024 --> 01:03:16,225
[caller]
...not real.
1192
01:03:16,259 --> 01:03:20,997
[voices overlapping]
1193
01:03:21,030 --> 01:03:22,632
Hello, DC 101, who's this?
1194
01:03:22,665 --> 01:03:23,866
[caller]
Stanley.
1195
01:03:23,900 --> 01:03:25,401
Stan, what you gotta say
to Gavin?
1196
01:03:25,434 --> 01:03:28,938
-[imitates voice]
-[Mike laughs]
1197
01:03:30,573 --> 01:03:32,041
Alright, I'll tell you what.
1198
01:03:32,074 --> 01:03:33,242
I'll give him five minutes
1199
01:03:33,276 --> 01:03:34,410
and I think I've got a guy,
1200
01:03:34,443 --> 01:03:36,279
we can get my producer to call.
1201
01:03:36,312 --> 01:03:38,381
It'll be good. See what happens.
1202
01:03:38,414 --> 01:03:40,449
[Erik]
Good for him or?
1203
01:03:40,483 --> 01:03:43,119
It'll be good for us.
1204
01:03:44,287 --> 01:03:47,623
[Mike] Gavin, listen, I know
people have been blasting you.
1205
01:03:47,657 --> 01:03:49,158
I want to...
1206
01:03:49,192 --> 01:03:51,394
This is the call that
we've been waiting for,
1207
01:03:51,427 --> 01:03:53,529
let me bring him on here.
1208
01:03:53,563 --> 01:03:55,998
-Hello, caller!
-[caller]
Yes.
1209
01:03:56,032 --> 01:03:57,567
Hi, let me introduce you.
1210
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:01,337
Gavin, this is Ed Sanchez,
the king of the found footage,
1211
01:04:01,370 --> 01:04:03,406
the director
of the
Blair Witch Project
1212
01:04:03,439 --> 01:04:06,342
who is calling to talk about
your movie
Butterfly Kisses
!
1213
01:04:06,375 --> 01:04:07,944
Ed, how you doing, brother?
1214
01:04:07,977 --> 01:04:09,445
[Ed]
I'm doing well, man
how's it going?
1215
01:04:09,478 --> 01:04:11,581
-Good.
-Good afternoon! Big, big fan!
1216
01:04:11,614 --> 01:04:13,449
[Ed] I've seen the footage.
1217
01:04:13,482 --> 01:04:18,054
You know, it doesn't look
completely genuine to me.
1218
01:04:18,087 --> 01:04:22,191
You know, I think there's some
acting involved, there's some
effects involved,
1219
01:04:22,225 --> 01:04:25,494
and I think that it's kind of
disturbing that he feels that
1220
01:04:25,528 --> 01:04:29,332
the only way to market this
footage is to pretend it's real.
1221
01:04:29,365 --> 01:04:33,636
So, you know, I just kind
of had to speak out about it,
you know?
1222
01:04:33,669 --> 01:04:35,638
[Ed on radio]
I understand
where Gavin's coming from,
1223
01:04:35,671 --> 01:04:38,241
but, you know, he's trying to,
you know,
1224
01:04:38,274 --> 01:04:40,643
get in the business,
he's trying to make this film,
1225
01:04:40,676 --> 01:04:43,212
but it's just
been done before, it's a...
1226
01:04:43,246 --> 01:04:46,082
Did you do this to start your
career in Hollywood?
1227
01:04:46,115 --> 01:04:48,651
Is this your way of maybe
kicking that door open?
1228
01:04:48,684 --> 01:04:51,954
I've been a filmmaker since
I was about 12 years old.
1229
01:04:51,988 --> 01:04:53,623
Right, that's why
everyone's saying
1230
01:04:53,656 --> 01:04:58,027
that this is not footage
that is legitimate,
1231
01:04:58,060 --> 01:04:59,629
that you created this
on your computer.
1232
01:04:59,662 --> 01:05:01,230
I completely understand that.
1233
01:05:01,264 --> 01:05:02,298
And you've made this
your film.
1234
01:05:02,331 --> 01:05:03,699
You're a professional.
1235
01:05:03,733 --> 01:05:05,501
Could you have made this
on a computer at home
1236
01:05:05,534 --> 01:05:06,636
with just a few projects?
1237
01:05:06,669 --> 01:05:08,304
At least for me, as a filmmaker,
1238
01:05:08,337 --> 01:05:09,739
you can tell that there's
some stuff
1239
01:05:09,772 --> 01:05:13,109
that is obviously,
you know, manipulated.
1240
01:05:13,142 --> 01:05:14,977
There's like these moments of...
1241
01:05:15,011 --> 01:05:18,047
Where just the camera happens
to be on, to capture a moment.
1242
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:21,017
That's like a big thing
of found footage is like.
1243
01:05:21,050 --> 01:05:25,054
The camera happens to be on
while something crazy's
happening,
1244
01:05:25,087 --> 01:05:28,257
you know, you just don't have
that kind of luck in life,
you know.
1245
01:05:28,291 --> 01:05:31,994
The whole legend is that the
footage is found in a shoebox
1246
01:05:32,028 --> 01:05:36,399
and the footage carefully shows
like oh, here's this shoebox
1247
01:05:36,432 --> 01:05:39,535
that we found it in here,
I'll show it in front
of the camera,
1248
01:05:39,568 --> 01:05:43,406
which is like something that
they're setting up the shoebox,
you know.
1249
01:05:43,439 --> 01:05:45,541
To me those are kind of,
you know,
1250
01:05:45,574 --> 01:05:48,577
signs that you're setting
something up dramatically.
1251
01:05:48,611 --> 01:05:50,546
In a movie you do that,
you know.
1252
01:05:50,579 --> 01:05:52,615
[Ed on radio]
You know, after
the initial buzz of our movie,
1253
01:05:52,648 --> 01:05:54,417
we never pretended that it was
real.
1254
01:05:54,450 --> 01:05:56,786
I just have a problem with
him thinking that it's for real.
1255
01:05:56,819 --> 01:05:59,322
You know, maybe I think
he has a problem.
1256
01:05:59,355 --> 01:06:02,692
[Mike] Ed, what are gonna be
the consequences if this does
come out
1257
01:06:02,725 --> 01:06:04,694
and it's found out that
Gavin made this up?
1258
01:06:04,727 --> 01:06:06,629
[Ed on radio]
You're just kind
of really
1259
01:06:06,662 --> 01:06:08,631
destroying your reputation
with this,
1260
01:06:08,664 --> 01:06:10,433
because eventually
somebody's going to come out,
1261
01:06:10,466 --> 01:06:12,735
some proof is gonna come out
that this is not real,
1262
01:06:12,768 --> 01:06:17,139
and, you know, people are gonna
ask what were you thinking?
1263
01:06:17,173 --> 01:06:20,609
And I'm kind of asking that
right now, what is he thinking?
1264
01:06:20,643 --> 01:06:23,612
You know, just fess up,
you know what I mean or...
1265
01:06:23,646 --> 01:06:26,182
I'm being about as honest
as I can be about this.
1266
01:06:26,215 --> 01:06:28,117
Alright, well, you say so.
1267
01:06:28,150 --> 01:06:31,587
Well, Gavin York, check out the
movie butterflykissesmovie.com,
1268
01:06:31,620 --> 01:06:34,490
it's on until midnight
tonight, thank you!
1269
01:06:34,523 --> 01:06:36,192
DC 101!
1270
01:06:36,225 --> 01:06:37,793
[radio music]
1271
01:06:43,733 --> 01:06:45,034
Mel?
1272
01:07:21,804 --> 01:07:22,838
Hey!
1273
01:07:23,839 --> 01:07:26,609
[Gavin crying]
1274
01:07:28,911 --> 01:07:30,813
It's alright!
1275
01:07:32,548 --> 01:07:34,216
Her mom set up an account.
1276
01:07:35,251 --> 01:07:37,686
For Carter and
1277
01:07:38,721 --> 01:07:41,157
they were putting money into it.
1278
01:07:42,358 --> 01:07:43,859
[clock ticking]
1279
01:07:46,228 --> 01:07:48,831
And I took all the money
and I spent it on the movie.
1280
01:07:51,734 --> 01:07:53,569
[Erik]
How did she find out?
1281
01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:02,745
She wanted to go
and take out a sum.
1282
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:19,795
[violent intro sound]
1283
01:08:19,829 --> 01:08:21,597
Authorities report that
the strange death
1284
01:08:21,630 --> 01:08:22,898
of a local man
leaves more questions
1285
01:08:22,932 --> 01:08:24,600
than answers this morning.
1286
01:08:24,633 --> 01:08:26,335
Friends say that Feldman,
1287
01:08:26,368 --> 01:08:28,537
a film student,
had been acting strangely.
1288
01:08:28,571 --> 01:08:30,739
Yeah, he's been making this
movie with this...
1289
01:08:30,773 --> 01:08:34,477
[digital noise mixed with
reporting]
1290
01:08:34,510 --> 01:08:37,413
[reporter]
The body was lying on floor,
smashed to pieces.
1291
01:08:37,446 --> 01:08:40,816
Feldman's body had been found
in the cabinet, under the
kitchen sink.
1292
01:08:40,850 --> 01:08:44,487
-This creature is coming and...
-[electronic noise]
1293
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:47,690
At this time, authorities await
results of an autopsy.
1294
01:08:47,723 --> 01:08:51,227
[TV news generic]
1295
01:08:51,260 --> 01:08:53,896
[crying]
1296
01:08:56,499 --> 01:08:58,868
[car blinkers and traffic noise]
1297
01:09:02,671 --> 01:09:06,675
[Erik] Hopefully we have
a record with him this evening
and, you know,
1298
01:09:06,709 --> 01:09:10,613
figure out where he's been,
if he's giving us a call,
obviously we're,
1299
01:09:10,646 --> 01:09:15,351
you know, we're showing
up there to shoot, we're just
filming this for posterity
1300
01:09:15,384 --> 01:09:17,253
-at this point.
-Yeah.
1301
01:09:18,287 --> 01:09:21,323
I don't really think we're gonna
use much about this,
to be honest.
1302
01:09:21,357 --> 01:09:24,226
Sure, I agree!
1303
01:09:29,431 --> 01:09:31,267
[car passing]
1304
01:09:36,805 --> 01:09:40,576
[crew member] You want me to
keep rolling on this so that
we have...
1305
01:09:40,609 --> 01:09:42,378
[Erik] Just whatever you do.
1306
01:09:42,411 --> 01:09:44,413
[crew member] I don't have
a lot of battery left.
1307
01:09:44,446 --> 01:09:46,248
If you're right about it.
Alright!
1308
01:09:47,316 --> 01:09:48,951
[Erik] Gavin!
1309
01:09:51,654 --> 01:09:53,355
Hey, Gavin!
1310
01:09:57,493 --> 01:09:58,894
Gavin!
1311
01:10:01,297 --> 01:10:03,365
[crew member] I'm gonna stop
recording for a second.
1312
01:10:03,399 --> 01:10:05,000
[Erik] No, no,
just keep it rolling.
1313
01:10:05,034 --> 01:10:06,869
[crew member] No, what are we
recording here?
1314
01:10:06,902 --> 01:10:09,004
We're not doing
anything, I don't...
1315
01:10:09,038 --> 01:10:11,307
Go talk to him or something,
man, this is getting...
1316
01:10:11,340 --> 01:10:13,609
[Erik] I don't even know
what to say to him!
1317
01:10:13,642 --> 01:10:16,278
[crew member] I don't know,
Erik, you're the director!
1318
01:10:21,617 --> 01:10:22,651
[Erik] Gavin!
1319
01:10:23,986 --> 01:10:26,622
Look, buddy, we can't help you
if you don't talk to us.
1320
01:10:27,690 --> 01:10:29,558
[Gavin] It's not...
1321
01:10:29,592 --> 01:10:31,827
Just when he gets
closer to you...
1322
01:10:33,596 --> 01:10:35,264
It's when you get
closer to him...
1323
01:10:38,467 --> 01:10:40,402
[Erik] Wait, what are you
talking about?
1324
01:10:40,436 --> 01:10:42,271
[Gavin] Butterfly kisses!
1325
01:10:43,405 --> 01:10:44,873
[dramatic music]
1326
01:10:44,907 --> 01:10:47,977
[crew member] We need to help
this guy, seriously.
1327
01:10:48,010 --> 01:10:52,348
We call, we call his wife!
1328
01:10:53,382 --> 01:10:58,320
We don't have her number.
She changed her number. I don't
know what her new number is.
1329
01:10:58,354 --> 01:11:02,725
What about his, what about
his mom-in-law?
Whatever her name was.
1330
01:11:02,758 --> 01:11:04,360
I never had her number.
1331
01:11:04,393 --> 01:11:05,561
It worked through Amelia,
1332
01:11:05,594 --> 01:11:06,862
and the house is sold,
1333
01:11:06,895 --> 01:11:08,631
so I don't even know
how to find her.
1334
01:11:10,032 --> 01:11:12,468
I don't know, I mean, I'm not...
1335
01:11:12,501 --> 01:11:15,104
We're supposed to make it
a movie about him,
1336
01:11:15,137 --> 01:11:19,742
and I don't know how much,
if this is our responsibility,
we're not, not his family.
1337
01:11:19,775 --> 01:11:21,710
It is our responsibility now,
we've...
1338
01:11:21,744 --> 01:11:22,845
We've taken him this far,
1339
01:11:22,878 --> 01:11:24,346
we've kind of screwed him over
1340
01:11:24,380 --> 01:11:25,648
on a couple things!
1341
01:11:25,681 --> 01:11:26,882
We haven't screwed him over,
Kenny!
1342
01:11:26,915 --> 01:11:28,484
But, DC 101 was total set up.
1343
01:11:28,517 --> 01:11:31,086
DC 101 who's not a total set up,
he agreed to it.
1344
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:35,724
He didn't know you were gonna
have Ed Sanchez call him.
Come on!
1345
01:11:35,758 --> 01:11:38,360
I did not put him
on the air to fail,
1346
01:11:38,394 --> 01:11:39,995
we gave him that option.
1347
01:11:40,029 --> 01:11:42,731
Look, it was mutually exclusive,
mutually beneficial. We, we...
1348
01:11:42,765 --> 01:11:46,902
We needed an end to the movie,
and he needed a public forum
through which to speak.
1349
01:11:46,935 --> 01:11:48,837
We agreed on this.
1350
01:11:48,871 --> 01:11:50,739
How is that,
how is that my fault?
1351
01:11:50,773 --> 01:11:53,442
-You guys, all said...
-You ruin his life
for your movie,
1352
01:11:53,475 --> 01:11:54,777
how about that?
1353
01:11:54,810 --> 01:11:56,378
At what point did this
become my movie
1354
01:11:56,412 --> 01:11:57,980
and this became
I ruin somebody's life?
1355
01:11:58,013 --> 01:12:00,916
Man, you just keep pushing him.
You keep...
1356
01:12:00,949 --> 01:12:03,585
Why do you guys, why do you
guys keep showing up
1357
01:12:03,619 --> 01:12:05,954
with the gear and shooting,
what we're doing then?
1358
01:12:05,988 --> 01:12:09,458
If you're so, if you have such
moral issues with it,
1359
01:12:09,491 --> 01:12:11,060
why are you fucking here?
1360
01:12:11,093 --> 01:12:13,395
-Who's that?
-What?
1361
01:12:13,429 --> 01:12:15,397
[metal sounds]
1362
01:12:15,431 --> 01:12:17,066
Somebody's running
across the tracks.
1363
01:12:17,099 --> 01:12:19,101
-Come on, guys.
-Shit!
1364
01:12:19,134 --> 01:12:21,070
[footsteps]
1365
01:12:22,571 --> 01:12:25,007
Where is the camera?
Did he take the camera?
1366
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:27,710
[running footsteps]
1367
01:12:32,848 --> 01:12:34,116
Guys, slow down.
1368
01:12:39,655 --> 01:12:43,459
-Did he seriously go in there?
-I'm not going in there.
1369
01:12:46,895 --> 01:12:49,698
Guys! The camera battery
is getting low!
1370
01:12:49,732 --> 01:12:51,734
We have to make a decision here.
1371
01:12:51,767 --> 01:12:53,035
Gavin!
1372
01:12:53,068 --> 01:12:54,803
The camera is about to die,
Erik!
1373
01:12:54,837 --> 01:12:56,105
What are we doing?
1374
01:12:57,840 --> 01:12:59,842
-What is that?
-What?
1375
01:12:59,875 --> 01:13:02,945
-Who the fuck is that?
-Gavin!
1376
01:13:02,978 --> 01:13:05,581
-Did you see?
-It's right there.
1377
01:13:05,614 --> 01:13:08,450
-Did you see anything?
-I don't see anything!
1378
01:13:08,484 --> 01:13:11,120
It's right in fucking the end of
the tunnel! What the fuck is...?
1379
01:13:11,153 --> 01:13:13,155
[TV signal tone]
1380
01:13:14,556 --> 01:13:17,559
[Sophia] Feldman sent this
the night that he died.
1381
01:13:17,593 --> 01:13:21,630
As you can see, he details out
what he called the final plan.
1382
01:13:21,663 --> 01:13:25,000
At the end, he only had three
blinks left, so he set the
camera up
1383
01:13:25,033 --> 01:13:29,471
into a mirror, so he covered
both sides, the front and the
back of himself.
1384
01:13:29,505 --> 01:13:32,674
He crouched down
in front of the mirror
1385
01:13:32,708 --> 01:13:36,545
and had this hammer ready,
so that on his final blink
1386
01:13:36,578 --> 01:13:42,184
he could stop, he could stop him
from getting him,
so he thought...
1387
01:13:43,118 --> 01:13:47,723
Feldman's parents let me go over
and go through everything when
1388
01:13:47,756 --> 01:13:52,661
Feldman had passed, because we
were working on the project
together.
1389
01:13:52,694 --> 01:13:57,900
I was able to get this tape
which was in the camera,
up until the end.
1390
01:13:57,933 --> 01:14:01,503
As you can see, it's all cracked
up and the tape was unspooled,
1391
01:14:01,537 --> 01:14:04,907
but I was actually able to put
it back together.
1392
01:14:04,940 --> 01:14:06,942
It took a few days,
1393
01:14:07,876 --> 01:14:09,645
but I did it.
1394
01:14:09,678 --> 01:14:12,548
The only thing that would
play, was the last clip,
1395
01:14:12,581 --> 01:14:15,951
and that's OK,
because Feldman was smart.
1396
01:14:15,984 --> 01:14:18,287
He also had this.
1397
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:19,888
[digital noise]
1398
01:14:39,975 --> 01:14:41,844
[noise intensifies]
1399
01:14:46,915 --> 01:14:48,584
[loud dramatic music]
1400
01:14:50,252 --> 01:14:51,086
Ah!
1401
01:14:51,119 --> 01:14:52,521
[electronic noise]
1402
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:01,129
[heavy breathing]
1403
01:15:21,884 --> 01:15:23,252
[violent horror noise]
1404
01:15:23,285 --> 01:15:24,286
[TV signal tone]
1405
01:15:28,824 --> 01:15:33,829
Alright, so Andy, for the
benefit of the camera,
can you please,
1406
01:15:33,862 --> 01:15:37,799
can you please tell me what you
sent me in the email?
1407
01:15:37,833 --> 01:15:41,870
Well, what I found was,
1408
01:15:41,904 --> 01:15:47,075
if you look when Peeping Tom
is jumping up,
1409
01:15:47,109 --> 01:15:51,046
like jumping up
to grab Feldman...
1410
01:15:52,781 --> 01:15:56,952
If you look in his eye, there's
actually an image in his eye.
1411
01:15:58,053 --> 01:16:03,091
At first, I thought it was the
shot of the, like
the Ilchester tunnel,
1412
01:16:03,125 --> 01:16:07,896
like I thought it was like
a frame grab from the video
1413
01:16:07,930 --> 01:16:10,632
where he appeared, but
1414
01:16:10,666 --> 01:16:12,100
I actually think it's the other
way around,
1415
01:16:12,134 --> 01:16:15,237
like it's what Peeping Tom saw
1416
01:16:15,270 --> 01:16:16,838
when Peeping Tom appeared
1417
01:16:16,872 --> 01:16:19,308
so he's looking through the
tunnel
1418
01:16:19,341 --> 01:16:23,178
and... you see the lights from
that camera
1419
01:16:23,211 --> 01:16:28,050
and beyond that is like
the train bridge.
1420
01:16:28,083 --> 01:16:32,321
[Erik] OK, so this,
this is his POV
1421
01:16:32,354 --> 01:16:36,391
of Crane and Feldman filming
him the night...
1422
01:16:36,425 --> 01:16:39,962
[Mike]
It's Peeping Tom's
point of view, yeah.
1423
01:16:43,765 --> 01:16:46,268
Wow, ah...
1424
01:16:46,301 --> 01:16:48,971
[Matt Davies] So this is what
it sounds like by itself.
1425
01:16:49,004 --> 01:16:50,739
[digital noise]
1426
01:16:50,772 --> 01:16:53,075
You wouldn't necessarily
be able to tell
1427
01:16:53,108 --> 01:16:54,309
that that's Morse code,
1428
01:16:54,343 --> 01:16:55,978
but you can see that it looks
1429
01:16:56,011 --> 01:16:57,379
a hell of a lot like it.
1430
01:16:57,412 --> 01:17:00,349
So, we, last time we were
working with Gavin,
1431
01:17:00,382 --> 01:17:02,684
there was kind of some debate
over the sound
1432
01:17:02,718 --> 01:17:04,353
that we found
at the beginning of...
1433
01:17:04,386 --> 01:17:08,924
seems like each clip after
the bridge footage.
1434
01:17:08,957 --> 01:17:14,029
Using this synthesizer sampler
from iZotope, called Iris,
1435
01:17:14,062 --> 01:17:18,367
you can basically feed it the
sound and it'll map out the
frequencies
1436
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:22,104
and amplitude of the sound
visually.
1437
01:17:23,972 --> 01:17:25,907
[digital noise]
1438
01:17:25,941 --> 01:17:28,810
So, when I called you
guys in here, I was actually
1439
01:17:28,844 --> 01:17:31,980
thinking that Gavin would be
in here, as well.
1440
01:17:32,014 --> 01:17:35,183
He's the director and yeah,
I would have thought he would
want to see this,
1441
01:17:35,217 --> 01:17:38,286
it's pretty crazy,
kind of validates him, but...
1442
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:40,455
[Erik] Gavin have been missing
for nine days.
1443
01:17:41,423 --> 01:17:42,691
Huh!
1444
01:17:44,159 --> 01:17:48,063
Alright, so, OK.
Are you rolling?
1445
01:17:48,096 --> 01:17:50,098
-Yeah!
-OK, so, on the way over here,
1446
01:17:50,132 --> 01:17:54,469
before I left this arrived in
the mail, this is from Gavin.
1447
01:17:54,503 --> 01:17:57,005
I have not opened it up because
I wanted to wait until
1448
01:17:57,039 --> 01:17:59,141
we do this on camera. Ready?
1449
01:17:59,174 --> 01:18:03,045
-Yeah.
-OK. Alright.
1450
01:18:03,078 --> 01:18:04,312
DVCAM.
1451
01:18:07,516 --> 01:18:10,452
-What is that?
-Holy shit!
1452
01:18:12,988 --> 01:18:14,923
This is, this is...
1453
01:18:15,924 --> 01:18:18,493
Sophia Crane, this is from
the found footage.
1454
01:18:18,527 --> 01:18:22,097
This is the package that
Feldman sent her.
1455
01:18:27,069 --> 01:18:28,470
No kidding!
1456
01:18:29,938 --> 01:18:31,773
This is...
1457
01:18:31,807 --> 01:18:35,177
OK, alright, look,
either this is a prop or...
1458
01:18:35,210 --> 01:18:37,279
Oh, fuck, how did he get this?
1459
01:18:38,380 --> 01:18:43,218
Because that was the... and
then the stuff that Sophia
found with the, you know,
1460
01:18:43,251 --> 01:18:45,887
she was like storyboard,
storyboard, concept art.
1461
01:18:45,921 --> 01:18:48,356
-This is gotta be fake.
-Where is it coming from?
1462
01:18:48,390 --> 01:18:51,159
-I don't know.
-I thought it was Gavin.
1463
01:18:51,193 --> 01:18:53,361
Gingo Corp's not even showing up
on the map,
1464
01:18:53,395 --> 01:18:55,564
anywhere in Maryland,
there's a Gringo Court!
1465
01:18:55,597 --> 01:18:56,865
Coincidentally.
1466
01:18:56,898 --> 01:18:58,467
Of course,
it's the Ginkgo Court.
1467
01:18:58,500 --> 01:19:01,036
What the fuck is Gringo?
Because...
1468
01:19:01,069 --> 01:19:04,873
Hey, look, I mean, sometimes
they change communities,
they change the street names...
1469
01:19:04,906 --> 01:19:06,775
-Is anything else in there?
-Yeah.
1470
01:19:08,577 --> 01:19:14,850
See, here's his journal, so
maybe it tells what he's been
doing for the past two weeks.
1471
01:19:14,883 --> 01:19:16,284
I don't know.
1472
01:19:19,121 --> 01:19:21,389
This is a motel key card.
1473
01:19:21,423 --> 01:19:24,326
-Are you rolling?
-Yeah.
1474
01:19:24,359 --> 01:19:26,128
[knocking on door]
1475
01:19:30,031 --> 01:19:34,102
A lot of survey by...
Fucking, what's going on?
1476
01:19:34,136 --> 01:19:35,437
Gavin!
1477
01:19:38,473 --> 01:19:41,009
Is the management guys still...
1478
01:19:41,977 --> 01:19:45,847
Good, let's go in! I don't think
we should record in here.
1479
01:19:45,881 --> 01:19:48,116
We're not breaking in,
are we?
1480
01:19:48,150 --> 01:19:50,118
Yeah, right.
1481
01:19:50,152 --> 01:19:52,187
Oh, shit!
1482
01:19:52,220 --> 01:19:54,222
Gavin!
1483
01:19:54,256 --> 01:19:57,092
Jesus, it's not good!
The hell is this?
1484
01:19:57,125 --> 01:19:58,460
-Kenny, Kenny!
-What?
1485
01:19:58,493 --> 01:20:02,130
-The GoPro's on.
-Jesus!
1486
01:20:02,164 --> 01:20:04,633
What you think he's doing?
What the fuck is this?
1487
01:20:04,666 --> 01:20:06,268
Recording it.
1488
01:20:06,301 --> 01:20:08,837
Here's his camera,
there's no card inside it.
1489
01:20:10,572 --> 01:20:13,942
Does anybody see the Panasonic,
the DVX?
1490
01:20:16,044 --> 01:20:17,345
The tapes?
1491
01:20:19,114 --> 01:20:20,882
Everything OK?
1492
01:20:20,916 --> 01:20:24,920
OK, cool.
Put this in the car,
we'll take these with us.
1493
01:20:24,953 --> 01:20:26,488
-Shit!
-OK.
1494
01:20:26,521 --> 01:20:30,659
Fuck, dude! Let's get
out of here! Let's go, let's go!
1495
01:20:30,692 --> 01:20:33,128
What's wrong?
1496
01:20:33,161 --> 01:20:35,363
I don't know, seriously!
1497
01:20:35,397 --> 01:20:37,399
Oh, fuck, dude!
1498
01:20:37,432 --> 01:20:39,467
What is it, man,
what's in there?
1499
01:20:40,468 --> 01:20:43,572
[officer] I suggest to start
from the beginning
with what happened.
1500
01:20:44,606 --> 01:20:48,410
[Erik] OK, so, we're making
a documentary.
1501
01:20:48,443 --> 01:20:49,945
[officer] Is that on?
1502
01:20:51,213 --> 01:20:52,948
Are you recording it?
1503
01:20:52,981 --> 01:20:55,383
-Yes.
-OK.
1504
01:20:55,417 --> 01:20:56,952
[officer] Go ahead.
1505
01:20:56,985 --> 01:20:59,888
[Erik] We're making
a documentary about
1506
01:21:01,089 --> 01:21:02,290
the deceased.
1507
01:21:02,324 --> 01:21:03,391
[violent music]
1508
01:21:11,466 --> 01:21:13,268
[Erik] Carl, where's the
footage?
1509
01:21:13,301 --> 01:21:15,337
Where are the tapes?
1510
01:21:15,370 --> 01:21:17,038
In my car.
1511
01:21:18,573 --> 01:21:21,643
[crewmember] Do you think,
should we show the police
1512
01:21:21,676 --> 01:21:24,045
the footage on the camera and
everything?
1513
01:21:24,079 --> 01:21:25,213
-No, no.
-Why not?
1514
01:21:25,247 --> 01:21:26,348
They might take it away.
1515
01:21:26,381 --> 01:21:27,949
They'll take the tapes,
1516
01:21:27,983 --> 01:21:30,118
they want the tapes,
they need the tapes.
1517
01:21:31,052 --> 01:21:33,154
The tapes, look, the tapes
in the shoebox
1518
01:21:33,188 --> 01:21:35,557
have absolutely nothing to do
with what happened here.
1519
01:21:35,590 --> 01:21:39,094
Nothing to do with it, and we
already have a real scene,
we can use the footage.
1520
01:21:39,127 --> 01:21:41,496
I'm talking about the footage
on my camera that we just shot,
1521
01:21:41,529 --> 01:21:43,098
shouldn't we show that
to the police?
1522
01:21:43,131 --> 01:21:44,599
Yeah, but, if we show that
to the police
1523
01:21:44,633 --> 01:21:46,334
it'll show that Carl found the
tapes
1524
01:21:46,368 --> 01:21:47,669
and then they'll take the tapes.
1525
01:21:50,272 --> 01:21:54,109
What do you think he was
doing, all the GoPros and all
the camera stuff, like, what...
1526
01:21:54,142 --> 01:21:57,646
I don't know, I think the more
important question is who took
the cards?
1527
01:21:57,679 --> 01:22:00,081
Who? They're not
in the cameras...
1528
01:22:00,115 --> 01:22:04,119
-So we'll find out in ten years!
-What?
1529
01:22:04,152 --> 01:22:06,354
That's when the footage
will be found!
1530
01:22:10,592 --> 01:22:13,228
I went to bed early last night.
1531
01:22:13,261 --> 01:22:17,265
I was so tired, kind of like
you are right before you're
getting sick.
1532
01:22:17,299 --> 01:22:21,536
I dreamt I went to the tunnel
and I was staring down,
1533
01:22:21,569 --> 01:22:23,071
right at midnight.
1534
01:22:24,306 --> 01:22:27,642
Everyone says it's so hard,
but I thought it was so easy.
1535
01:22:29,744 --> 01:22:32,380
And when I stared for an hour,
1536
01:22:32,414 --> 01:22:33,548
he appeared
1537
01:22:34,649 --> 01:22:38,453
and then I woke up and
I realized it wasn't a dream!
1538
01:22:39,421 --> 01:22:41,456
It's ten miles from my house
1539
01:22:42,724 --> 01:22:45,060
and I don't know
how I got there!
1540
01:22:46,695 --> 01:22:49,364
Alright, I'll tell you about
this tunnel...
1541
01:22:49,397 --> 01:22:51,032
Oh, fuck!
1542
01:22:52,534 --> 01:22:56,571
Let's be honest here, this is
not what we thought this was
going to be,
1543
01:22:56,604 --> 01:22:59,774
and now we're trying to make
something out of it.
1544
01:22:59,808 --> 01:23:04,579
Listen, not all documentaries,
not all projects come together.
1545
01:23:04,612 --> 01:23:09,317
This is one of those examples,
it just didn't,
it didn't pan out.
1546
01:23:09,351 --> 01:23:12,754
So you're saying we don't have a
compelling story to cut together
here, we don't have...
1547
01:23:13,755 --> 01:23:19,494
There's, there's no end to this
story other than us standing
here on the tracks.
1548
01:23:19,527 --> 01:23:23,465
There's no end of this story
because it's all, this is the
beginning.
1549
01:23:23,498 --> 01:23:25,233
-You understand?
-What?
1550
01:23:25,266 --> 01:23:27,068
We have the tapes, right?
1551
01:23:27,102 --> 01:23:29,204
Then there's what
Studio Unknown found, OK?
1552
01:23:29,237 --> 01:23:31,573
They found that sound anomaly.
1553
01:23:31,606 --> 01:23:33,742
We didn't put that there,
Gavin didn't put that there.
1554
01:23:33,775 --> 01:23:38,380
With what Wardlaw found, OK,
with the reflection in the eye,
1555
01:23:38,413 --> 01:23:40,749
and I don't know we put this
documentary out there
1556
01:23:40,782 --> 01:23:42,784
and other people can take it
to the next step!
1557
01:23:42,817 --> 01:23:45,553
-This is just the beginning.
-You're contradicting yourself!
1558
01:23:45,587 --> 01:23:49,190
-I'm not contradicting myself!
-You just said we're not trying
1559
01:23:49,224 --> 01:23:52,227
to present us like a real story,
and now you are trying to
present it like this.
1560
01:23:52,260 --> 01:23:56,664
I am trying to present this like
the real story of what happened
to Gavin York.
1561
01:23:56,698 --> 01:23:58,733
And because we're trying to tell
Gavin's story,
1562
01:23:58,767 --> 01:24:02,637
these component factors that
are included in there are
part of his story,
1563
01:24:02,670 --> 01:24:04,105
part of what happened to him.
1564
01:24:04,139 --> 01:24:05,240
I'm not saying it's real,
1565
01:24:05,273 --> 01:24:06,641
I'm just saying that
1566
01:24:06,674 --> 01:24:11,112
what kind of a fucking idiot
just drops it!
1567
01:24:11,146 --> 01:24:14,115
[crewmember] Erik, do you
believe that the Blinkman is
real?
1568
01:24:18,453 --> 01:24:19,721
[dramatic music]
1569
01:24:22,624 --> 01:24:25,627
[video tape charging]
1570
01:24:32,634 --> 01:24:36,304
My name is Sophia Crane.
It's March 3rd, 2004.
1571
01:24:36,337 --> 01:24:39,407
I'm a film student
and this is my senior thesis.
1572
01:24:39,441 --> 01:24:41,609
I don't know how much longer
I'm going to be alive,
1573
01:24:41,643 --> 01:24:43,311
so I ask whoever find this,
1574
01:24:43,344 --> 01:24:45,547
please apply the first and
second halves
1575
01:24:45,580 --> 01:24:47,148
of this final interview
1576
01:24:47,182 --> 01:24:49,384
to the beginning and
end of my film.
1577
01:24:49,417 --> 01:24:52,220
I don't know where
to make the cut.
1578
01:24:52,253 --> 01:24:56,124
This is the story of
Peeping Tom and how I went
looking for him.
1579
01:24:56,825 --> 01:24:59,627
Please show this to my parents.
1580
01:25:01,196 --> 01:25:04,466
I don't know how much longer
I can go without blinking,
1581
01:25:04,499 --> 01:25:07,535
but I think I found a way
to beat him.
1582
01:25:07,569 --> 01:25:10,305
The girl who stared into the sun
1583
01:25:10,338 --> 01:25:13,942
she only lost her sight,
she still had to blink.
1584
01:25:13,975 --> 01:25:15,777
Everyone blinks.
1585
01:25:15,810 --> 01:25:19,848
It's right here, taunting me,
try one last thing.
1586
01:25:21,416 --> 01:25:23,685
[heavy breathing]
1587
01:25:28,356 --> 01:25:30,492
[glass breaking]
1588
01:25:33,261 --> 01:25:34,929
[noise]
1589
01:25:34,963 --> 01:25:37,499
They say you can't cheat
Peeping Tom.
1590
01:25:37,532 --> 01:25:40,768
But I think I found the way to
beat him at his own game!
1591
01:25:43,671 --> 01:25:50,612
[crying doubled by noise]
1592
01:25:50,645 --> 01:25:52,580
[crying]
1593
01:25:53,982 --> 01:25:55,517
[screaming]
1594
01:25:57,685 --> 01:25:59,687
[TV signal tone]
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