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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,517 --> 00:00:03,827 NARRATOR: It is perhaps the greatest UFO secret 2 00:00:03,827 --> 00:00:05,379 of the 20th century... 3 00:00:05,379 --> 00:00:07,689 MAN: What the [bleep] is that? It's crazy. 4 00:00:07,689 --> 00:00:11,379 NARRATOR: The reverse engineering of alien technology. 5 00:00:11,379 --> 00:00:12,482 What happens next? 6 00:00:12,482 --> 00:00:14,620 It would be back-engineered. 7 00:00:14,620 --> 00:00:17,172 NARRATOR: Did the U.S. government have a covert program 8 00:00:17,172 --> 00:00:21,000 to retrieve and study the wreckage of crashed UFOs? 9 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,172 People that worked at Dugway have seen weird stuff out there 10 00:00:24,172 --> 00:00:25,620 and want to tell their story. 11 00:00:25,620 --> 00:00:28,827 NARRATOR: Were these materials, in fact, extraterrestrial? 12 00:00:28,827 --> 00:00:32,896 They could easily see that that was a flying saucer wreckage. 13 00:00:32,896 --> 00:00:36,000 They knew it was outside of this world. 14 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,482 NARRATOR: And is this still going on today? 15 00:00:38,482 --> 00:00:40,689 People know how to keep secrets. 16 00:00:40,689 --> 00:00:42,793 HANSEN: Whoa! Whoa! 17 00:00:44,517 --> 00:00:47,172 I'm Ben Hansen, a former federal agent. 18 00:00:47,172 --> 00:00:50,379 My grandfather worked at a highly classified Air Force base 19 00:00:50,379 --> 00:00:53,275 and convinced me we are not alone in the universe. 20 00:00:53,275 --> 00:00:56,793 Then I had my own encounter that changed my life forever. 21 00:00:56,793 --> 00:00:58,793 MARSH: Welcome to UFO country. 22 00:00:58,793 --> 00:01:01,724 HANSEN: Now I've gained access to a top secret archive 23 00:01:01,724 --> 00:01:03,172 from Project Blue Book... 24 00:01:03,172 --> 00:01:08,724 This planet has been under surveillance for centuries. 25 00:01:08,724 --> 00:01:11,896 HANSEN: ...containing reports of over 10,000 UFO sightings 26 00:01:11,896 --> 00:01:14,103 investigated by the US government. 27 00:01:14,103 --> 00:01:16,689 We could very well be standing on the exact place 28 00:01:16,689 --> 00:01:18,379 where a UFO crashed. 29 00:01:18,379 --> 00:01:21,931 My mission is to uncover the truth. 30 00:01:21,931 --> 00:01:28,586 ♪♪ 31 00:01:28,586 --> 00:01:35,206 ♪♪ 32 00:01:35,206 --> 00:01:36,379 HANSEN: In the past few months, 33 00:01:36,379 --> 00:01:39,068 there's been some earth-shattering revelations 34 00:01:39,068 --> 00:01:41,586 about the government's knowledge of UFOs, 35 00:01:41,586 --> 00:01:44,482 and I think we could be on the verge of uncovering 36 00:01:44,482 --> 00:01:46,103 some very big secrets. 37 00:01:47,413 --> 00:01:51,620 NARRATOR: In April 2020, the Pentagon confirmed that the U.S. military 38 00:01:51,620 --> 00:01:54,793 has been encountering unidentified flying objects 39 00:01:54,793 --> 00:01:56,206 in our airspace. 40 00:01:58,689 --> 00:02:00,172 [Bleep] 41 00:02:00,172 --> 00:02:02,689 NARRATOR: These craft move in a manner that defies explanation, 42 00:02:02,689 --> 00:02:06,000 demonstrating technology that is light-years beyond ours. 43 00:02:10,793 --> 00:02:12,586 But according to an explosive report 44 00:02:12,586 --> 00:02:15,172 recently published in The New York Times, 45 00:02:15,172 --> 00:02:17,413 it's possible our government has a plan 46 00:02:17,413 --> 00:02:22,000 to back-engineer this technology from recovered alien craft. 47 00:02:23,793 --> 00:02:27,000 In the article, high-ranking members of the U.S. government 48 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:31,000 admit there was once a covert program that investigated and, 49 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,586 when possible, retrieved the crashed remains 50 00:02:33,586 --> 00:02:37,793 of unidentified flying objects for study. 51 00:02:37,793 --> 00:02:39,620 And it's still happening today. 52 00:02:39,620 --> 00:02:43,172 Astrophysicist Eric W. Davis stated 53 00:02:43,172 --> 00:02:46,482 he briefed the Department of Defense in March 2020 54 00:02:46,482 --> 00:02:49,068 about the recovery of, 55 00:02:49,068 --> 00:02:52,482 "off-world vehicles not made on this Earth." 56 00:02:52,482 --> 00:02:54,103 ♪♪ 57 00:02:54,103 --> 00:02:55,827 HANSEN: Over the past 75 years, 58 00:02:55,827 --> 00:02:58,517 there have been numerous UFO crashes where witnesses claim 59 00:02:58,517 --> 00:03:00,275 the government recovered the wreckage 60 00:03:00,275 --> 00:03:03,000 and took it to an unknown destination. 61 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,793 But two stand head-and-shoulders above the rest -- 62 00:03:05,793 --> 00:03:10,793 Roswell, 1947, and Kecksburg, 1965. 63 00:03:12,103 --> 00:03:13,413 If I could somehow determine 64 00:03:13,413 --> 00:03:16,793 where the military is taking these UFOs, 65 00:03:16,793 --> 00:03:20,172 that would go a long way in corroborating the Times article. 66 00:03:20,172 --> 00:03:24,310 It could then, in turn, offer definitive proof of alien life. 67 00:03:24,310 --> 00:03:28,689 So I'm on my way to meet someone I think can help me. 68 00:03:28,689 --> 00:03:31,793 NARRATOR: Tom Carey is a former member of the Air Force 69 00:03:31,793 --> 00:03:36,724 who has written numerous books on the Roswell crash of 1947. 70 00:03:36,724 --> 00:03:39,310 He claims the military recovered a UFO 71 00:03:39,310 --> 00:03:41,000 from both Roswell and Kecksburg, 72 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,517 then took them apart to learn how they worked 73 00:03:44,517 --> 00:03:47,482 with the aim of recreating their technology. 74 00:03:47,482 --> 00:03:49,827 According to Tom, this work has been happening 75 00:03:49,827 --> 00:03:53,482 at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base for nearly 80 years. 76 00:03:54,931 --> 00:03:58,310 HANSEN: When it comes to Kecksburg -- the same with Roswell -- 77 00:03:58,310 --> 00:04:01,482 when something like this happens, a crash retrieval, 78 00:04:01,482 --> 00:04:03,379 where you have alien craft going to 79 00:04:03,379 --> 00:04:05,103 Wright-Patterson Air Force Base -- 80 00:04:05,103 --> 00:04:07,068 what happens at Wright-Patterson? 81 00:04:07,068 --> 00:04:10,896 Anything like that would ultimately wind up 82 00:04:10,896 --> 00:04:13,379 in the Foreign Technology Division. 83 00:04:13,379 --> 00:04:16,000 So, that is the housing for receiving 84 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,172 either foreign Yes. or otherworldly objects. 85 00:04:19,172 --> 00:04:20,931 Exactly. 86 00:04:20,931 --> 00:04:22,482 What happens next? 87 00:04:22,482 --> 00:04:25,103 It would be back-engineered. 88 00:04:25,103 --> 00:04:26,172 Reverse engineering 89 00:04:26,172 --> 00:04:28,172 goes all the way back to World War II. 90 00:04:28,172 --> 00:04:31,379 So, they were already in the back-engineering business 91 00:04:31,379 --> 00:04:36,689 by the time of the Roswell crash in 1947. 92 00:04:36,689 --> 00:04:38,586 So, the foreign technology division, 93 00:04:38,586 --> 00:04:41,413 their mission is to accept aircraft 94 00:04:41,413 --> 00:04:43,517 that we've captured or found. 95 00:04:43,517 --> 00:04:45,379 So, take what is already made, 96 00:04:45,379 --> 00:04:48,793 figure out how it works, back-engineer, 97 00:04:48,793 --> 00:04:52,482 and then use that technology, perhaps, for our own benefit. 98 00:04:52,482 --> 00:04:54,172 And they do this with enemy planes 99 00:04:54,172 --> 00:04:56,206 as well as alien spacecraft. 100 00:04:56,206 --> 00:04:59,482 That's it, in a nutshell. 101 00:04:59,482 --> 00:05:03,275 What types of technology do you think have been developed? 102 00:05:03,275 --> 00:05:08,275 Oh, geez, we got transistors from Roswell, Kevlar, lasers, 103 00:05:08,275 --> 00:05:11,310 and they had this so-called memory metal, 104 00:05:11,310 --> 00:05:13,310 that you could wad it up in your hand 105 00:05:13,310 --> 00:05:15,275 and put it over a flat surface 106 00:05:15,275 --> 00:05:18,793 and it would just float out, unfurl itself, 107 00:05:18,793 --> 00:05:21,482 and just go back to its original shape. 108 00:05:21,482 --> 00:05:22,724 But the thing about it was, 109 00:05:22,724 --> 00:05:27,000 you couldn't cut it, scratch it, burn it, 110 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,000 or permanently deform it in any way. 111 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,620 It was indestructible. 112 00:05:31,620 --> 00:05:33,586 Wow. That's incredible. 113 00:05:33,586 --> 00:05:37,379 We had a witness who was involved in that project, 114 00:05:37,379 --> 00:05:41,275 and he said they're trying to back-engineer this memory metal, 115 00:05:41,275 --> 00:05:44,172 which began -- get this -- in 1948. 116 00:05:45,172 --> 00:05:47,275 [ Laughs ] Right after the Roswell crash. 117 00:05:47,275 --> 00:05:50,827 There was nothing on memory-recovery metal 118 00:05:50,827 --> 00:05:52,689 prior to 1948. 119 00:05:52,689 --> 00:05:55,000 NARRATOR: Years later, after contracting work 120 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,379 to the metallurgical company Battelle, 121 00:05:57,379 --> 00:06:01,000 the government announced a scientific breakthrough. 122 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,413 In 1962, they held a press conference 123 00:06:04,413 --> 00:06:08,931 to announce the discovery of this new amalgam called nitinol 124 00:06:08,931 --> 00:06:10,310 And what does Nitinol do? 125 00:06:10,310 --> 00:06:13,896 Nitinol is like the memory metal. 126 00:06:13,896 --> 00:06:14,793 It's the best we could do. 127 00:06:14,793 --> 00:06:16,896 It's not as good as the original. 128 00:06:16,896 --> 00:06:19,586 It's used medically in heart valves. 129 00:06:19,586 --> 00:06:20,689 [ Thumping ] 130 00:06:20,689 --> 00:06:23,482 It's also used in the space program. 131 00:06:23,482 --> 00:06:24,827 [ Radio chatter ] 132 00:06:24,827 --> 00:06:25,689 Wow. 133 00:06:25,689 --> 00:06:27,724 What about types of aircraft 134 00:06:27,724 --> 00:06:29,620 you think have been developed? 135 00:06:29,620 --> 00:06:34,310 The idea of stealth came from nitinol. 136 00:06:34,310 --> 00:06:36,724 They covered an aircraft in this memory metal, 137 00:06:36,724 --> 00:06:39,724 and it didn't show up on radar. 138 00:06:39,724 --> 00:06:42,310 The U2s, it was the first one, 139 00:06:42,310 --> 00:06:47,000 and the SR-71 Blackbird Stealth. 140 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,068 NARRATOR: During World War II, the Air Force's best craft 141 00:06:50,068 --> 00:06:52,206 was the heavy bomber biplane. 142 00:06:52,206 --> 00:06:56,172 Not long after, the SR-71 Blackbird Stealth 143 00:06:56,172 --> 00:06:58,379 was blasting through the skies. 144 00:06:58,379 --> 00:07:00,275 And everyone else might just look at that 145 00:07:00,275 --> 00:07:02,482 and say, "Well, that's American ingenuity." 146 00:07:02,482 --> 00:07:06,379 NARRATOR: Many believe this unprecedented leap in aerospace technology 147 00:07:06,379 --> 00:07:08,896 was a direct result of the military's efforts 148 00:07:08,896 --> 00:07:12,000 in reverse-engineering alien technology. 149 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,827 ♪♪ 150 00:07:14,827 --> 00:07:18,793 They still haven't figured out how the Roswell UFO flew. 151 00:07:18,793 --> 00:07:23,000 Back in the 50s, they tried to create circular craft, 152 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,620 but it was unstable. 153 00:07:24,620 --> 00:07:28,275 It's like a hovercraft, right? A hovercraft. Yes. 154 00:07:28,275 --> 00:07:32,275 There's a lot of reports of a triangular-shaped craft. 155 00:07:32,275 --> 00:07:34,275 I would say, if they're seen in Nevada, 156 00:07:34,275 --> 00:07:36,724 that would be what they're working on now. 157 00:07:36,724 --> 00:07:39,379 But if they're seen in Sheboygan, Wisconsin, 158 00:07:39,379 --> 00:07:43,586 or Bugtussle, Tennessee, it's one of theirs. 159 00:07:43,586 --> 00:07:45,379 Okay. So, it's possible 160 00:07:45,379 --> 00:07:48,000 that a lot of this back-engineered stuff, 161 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,379 maybe we figured out little bits of it, 162 00:07:50,379 --> 00:07:53,379 but that they -- the originators of it -- 163 00:07:53,379 --> 00:07:55,275 are still flying around as well. 164 00:07:55,275 --> 00:07:57,310 Yes. Wow. 165 00:07:57,310 --> 00:07:58,793 What about back-engineering? 166 00:07:58,793 --> 00:08:01,379 Do you think that still happens at Wright-Patterson? 167 00:08:01,379 --> 00:08:05,000 No, they're probably not going to Wright-Patterson. 168 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,931 It's a known quantity, now. 169 00:08:07,931 --> 00:08:09,689 NARRATOR: Tom believes that due to leaks 170 00:08:09,689 --> 00:08:11,793 exposing their reverse- engineering efforts, 171 00:08:11,793 --> 00:08:14,172 the military relocated the program 172 00:08:14,172 --> 00:08:16,379 away from Wright-Patterson. 173 00:08:16,379 --> 00:08:19,068 The current location of the military's top-secret 174 00:08:19,068 --> 00:08:22,793 reverse-engineering division is unknown. 175 00:08:22,793 --> 00:08:24,068 But 50 years ago, 176 00:08:24,068 --> 00:08:27,103 it was housed within Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, 177 00:08:27,103 --> 00:08:30,379 and Ben knows someone who worked at the base at the time -- 178 00:08:30,379 --> 00:08:33,482 the last surviving member of Project Blue Book, 179 00:08:33,482 --> 00:08:35,482 operative Jennie Zeidman. 180 00:08:35,482 --> 00:08:37,793 ♪♪ 181 00:08:37,793 --> 00:08:39,068 Good morning. Hey. 182 00:08:39,068 --> 00:08:40,793 Good morning, Ben. 183 00:08:40,793 --> 00:08:43,793 Nice to see you both. Jennie, Mark. 184 00:08:43,793 --> 00:08:45,275 I just met with Tom Carey, 185 00:08:45,275 --> 00:08:48,379 who told me the military back-engineers alien craft 186 00:08:48,379 --> 00:08:49,620 at Wright-Pat. 187 00:08:49,620 --> 00:08:51,689 Jennie, do you know of any research 188 00:08:51,689 --> 00:08:55,413 that was being conducted on UFOs during your time there? 189 00:08:55,413 --> 00:08:57,379 Once a week or so, 190 00:08:57,379 --> 00:09:02,000 a man would arrive at the observatory office... 191 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,103 ♪♪ 192 00:09:05,103 --> 00:09:07,482 and he would be carrying the cases 193 00:09:07,482 --> 00:09:10,586 that Hynek was supposed to solve. 194 00:09:10,586 --> 00:09:13,793 And I assumed he was from Wright field, 195 00:09:13,793 --> 00:09:17,068 but he was kind of mysterious. 196 00:09:17,068 --> 00:09:20,413 NARRATOR: Jennie had never seen the man before, 197 00:09:20,413 --> 00:09:23,068 so she asked Hynek whether he was Air Force. 198 00:09:23,068 --> 00:09:24,586 And he told me, 199 00:09:24,586 --> 00:09:27,379 "you're not working directly for the Air Force." 200 00:09:27,379 --> 00:09:31,068 He said, "you're working for a contractor." 201 00:09:31,068 --> 00:09:34,379 NARRATOR: For Jennie, the word "contractor" was a red flag. 202 00:09:34,379 --> 00:09:36,620 Why was an outside organization brought in 203 00:09:36,620 --> 00:09:40,000 to investigate the Kecksburg and Roswell UFOs? 204 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,689 Jennie was determined to find out the contractor's name. 205 00:09:43,689 --> 00:09:46,482 Knowing that something was being kept a secret, 206 00:09:46,482 --> 00:09:50,896 I immediately wanted to solve the problem. 207 00:09:50,896 --> 00:09:54,586 NARRATOR: A few days later, the man showed up with new files. 208 00:09:54,586 --> 00:09:57,000 ♪♪ 209 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:01,206 ZEIDMAN: And I did a double-take at his license plate. 210 00:10:01,206 --> 00:10:04,586 There was Columbus City directory in those days -- 211 00:10:04,586 --> 00:10:09,793 you looked up the name, and it says "secretary." 212 00:10:09,793 --> 00:10:11,620 So it says, like, where he works. 213 00:10:13,724 --> 00:10:20,103 And I got out the directory -- Vern Elzy, Battelle. 214 00:10:20,103 --> 00:10:23,000 Battelle is one of the premier 215 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:27,896 metallurgical research places on the planet. 216 00:10:27,896 --> 00:10:30,586 Battelle is a private corporation Right. 217 00:10:30,586 --> 00:10:32,620 and a government contractor. Right. 218 00:10:32,620 --> 00:10:34,793 So, you think Battelle took 219 00:10:34,793 --> 00:10:40,103 debris and material from Roswell and Kecksburg, 220 00:10:40,103 --> 00:10:43,000 then figure out how this technology works 221 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:47,413 and develop it into some useful material for the military? 222 00:10:47,413 --> 00:10:51,896 The evidence indicates very strongly that 223 00:10:51,896 --> 00:10:57,172 Battelle analyzed Roswell artifacts. 224 00:10:58,896 --> 00:11:03,103 If, as you're supposing, there were artifacts from Roswell 225 00:11:03,103 --> 00:11:04,896 and they were sent to Battelle, 226 00:11:04,896 --> 00:11:08,103 what do you think the next logical steps would be? 227 00:11:08,103 --> 00:11:14,379 To back-engineering, from which NASA was born, so to speak. 228 00:11:14,379 --> 00:11:17,379 NARRATOR: NASA was founded in 1958. 229 00:11:17,379 --> 00:11:18,482 [ Radio chatter ] 230 00:11:18,482 --> 00:11:20,931 Many ufologists contend the agency was born 231 00:11:20,931 --> 00:11:24,275 out of what was learned from the UFO recovered at Roswell 232 00:11:24,275 --> 00:11:26,172 just nine years earlier. 233 00:11:26,172 --> 00:11:28,689 Battelle's presence at Wright-Patterson suggests 234 00:11:28,689 --> 00:11:33,103 that the reverse-engineering of UFOs was happening there. 235 00:11:33,103 --> 00:11:36,000 But where is the program today? 236 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,275 Is the military still back-engineering UFOs today? 237 00:11:39,275 --> 00:11:43,689 I have no idea. No idea whatsoever. 238 00:11:43,689 --> 00:11:46,379 People know how to keep secrets. 239 00:11:46,379 --> 00:11:48,586 ♪♪ 240 00:11:48,586 --> 00:11:49,586 NARRATOR: Coming up... 241 00:11:49,586 --> 00:11:51,931 HANSEN: Aliens. So, your father told you 242 00:11:51,931 --> 00:11:55,206 that he saw alien bodies at Wright-Patterson, 243 00:11:55,206 --> 00:11:57,206 Yes, aliens. 244 00:11:57,206 --> 00:11:58,413 NARRATOR: And later... 245 00:11:58,413 --> 00:12:00,275 HANSEN: Is it possible my own grandfather 246 00:12:00,275 --> 00:12:01,896 was wrapped up in all of this 247 00:12:01,896 --> 00:12:04,482 reverse-engineering and black project stuff? 248 00:12:04,482 --> 00:12:05,586 ♪♪ 249 00:12:09,862 --> 00:12:10,931 NARRATOR: Ben Hansen has uncovered 250 00:12:10,931 --> 00:12:13,000 a top-secret division in the U.S. military 251 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,413 responsible for back-engineering 252 00:12:15,413 --> 00:12:17,275 the crashed alien spacecrafts 253 00:12:17,275 --> 00:12:20,275 recovered from Roswell and Kecksburg. 254 00:12:20,275 --> 00:12:22,482 Jennie Zeidman confirmed it was housed 255 00:12:22,482 --> 00:12:24,689 at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, 256 00:12:24,689 --> 00:12:27,896 but its current location is unknown. 257 00:12:27,896 --> 00:12:30,000 HANSEN: The leaps and bounds made in aviation 258 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,862 based off possible alien tech is remarkable. 259 00:12:32,862 --> 00:12:34,482 I can't help but wonder what else 260 00:12:34,482 --> 00:12:37,517 the military may have been developing. 261 00:12:37,517 --> 00:12:39,413 NARRATOR: To find out, Ben has tracked down 262 00:12:39,413 --> 00:12:41,586 the son of a key reverse engineer 263 00:12:41,586 --> 00:12:45,103 who has been carrying a dark family secret for decades. 264 00:12:46,379 --> 00:12:48,689 Mark. Ben Hansen, nice to see you. 265 00:12:48,689 --> 00:12:51,000 Mark Magruder's father, Mack, 266 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,517 worked for the Air Force Special Projects Division. 267 00:12:53,517 --> 00:12:56,482 Before he died in 1997, 268 00:12:56,482 --> 00:12:59,310 he told his son everything he saw and did 269 00:12:59,310 --> 00:13:02,379 as a back engineer working with alien craft. 270 00:13:02,379 --> 00:13:04,896 HANSEN: Renowned World War II hero. 271 00:13:04,896 --> 00:13:06,931 He's well-respected. 272 00:13:06,931 --> 00:13:09,172 Mark, when did you first learn 273 00:13:09,172 --> 00:13:13,482 about this other career life that your father had? 274 00:13:13,482 --> 00:13:17,862 He ended up going to his grave with so much information. 275 00:13:17,862 --> 00:13:19,758 And it turns out, 276 00:13:19,758 --> 00:13:25,689 he was involved the whole time, on his death bed. 277 00:13:25,689 --> 00:13:26,793 My dad said, 278 00:13:26,793 --> 00:13:32,482 "I have carried this terrible secret all my life. 279 00:13:32,482 --> 00:13:35,413 You have no idea what I've seen and done." 280 00:13:37,172 --> 00:13:41,896 In 1947, my dad was invited to Wright-Patterson... 281 00:13:41,896 --> 00:13:45,068 ♪♪ 282 00:13:45,068 --> 00:13:47,482 and they went into the hangar, 283 00:13:47,482 --> 00:13:52,000 ♪♪ 284 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,413 and inside the hangar, there was this material. 285 00:13:55,413 --> 00:13:58,586 ♪♪ 286 00:13:58,586 --> 00:14:00,793 It was so strong, but so lightweight. 287 00:14:00,793 --> 00:14:03,000 You mean a kind of metal? 288 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,379 Yes. And they put two and two together, 289 00:14:05,379 --> 00:14:08,689 and they knew there was the Roswell crash. 290 00:14:08,689 --> 00:14:10,206 Wait, wait, wait. 291 00:14:10,206 --> 00:14:11,586 NARRATOR: Jennie Zeidman claimed 292 00:14:11,586 --> 00:14:13,931 a metallurgical company named Battelle 293 00:14:13,931 --> 00:14:16,413 was interested in the Roswell UFO. 294 00:14:16,413 --> 00:14:20,586 Could this be the material they were analyzing? 295 00:14:20,586 --> 00:14:23,689 There's people that would say that this didn't happen, 296 00:14:23,689 --> 00:14:26,793 and I've got the proof that it did. 297 00:14:26,793 --> 00:14:31,586 I have the declassified Air War College study. 298 00:14:31,586 --> 00:14:35,379 Mark, this is April, '48. So, this was just, let's see -- 299 00:14:35,379 --> 00:14:38,793 like, what, eight months after the Roswell crash? 300 00:14:38,793 --> 00:14:39,896 Yes. 301 00:14:39,896 --> 00:14:43,103 We have witnesses who saw the Kecksburg debris 302 00:14:43,103 --> 00:14:46,482 being transported to Wright-Patterson, 303 00:14:46,482 --> 00:14:48,379 but with your father's credentials, 304 00:14:48,379 --> 00:14:52,689 and here, physical proof that your father was there... 305 00:14:52,689 --> 00:14:54,586 This is huge. 306 00:14:54,586 --> 00:14:58,758 It verifies that UFO crash material 307 00:14:58,758 --> 00:15:03,068 was at Wright-Patterson from the Roswell debris. 308 00:15:03,068 --> 00:15:05,000 Yeah. That's correct. 309 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,896 So, I can see this was classified at one time. 310 00:15:08,896 --> 00:15:11,172 NARRATOR: The documents Mark inherited from his father 311 00:15:11,172 --> 00:15:13,103 are a treasure trove of information 312 00:15:13,103 --> 00:15:15,896 regarding the activity at Wright-Patterson. 313 00:15:15,896 --> 00:15:19,103 Some are downright shocking. 314 00:15:19,103 --> 00:15:20,482 Wait a second. What is -- 315 00:15:20,482 --> 00:15:23,275 "A lecture in room number one -- 316 00:15:23,275 --> 00:15:27,482 alien enemy control and related problems." 317 00:15:27,482 --> 00:15:29,413 They labeled this in the agenda, 318 00:15:29,413 --> 00:15:32,482 "Oh, we're gonna talk about alien control today." 319 00:15:32,482 --> 00:15:34,275 And the fact that we can verify -- 320 00:15:34,275 --> 00:15:37,000 this is from a Freedom of Information request 321 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,517 directly from the DOD. 322 00:15:39,517 --> 00:15:43,482 Mark, this is just incredible. 323 00:15:43,482 --> 00:15:46,482 It's information that nobody really knew was out there, 324 00:15:46,482 --> 00:15:50,896 and there's some interesting things that are revealed. 325 00:15:50,896 --> 00:15:52,517 NARRATOR: After decades of silence, 326 00:15:52,517 --> 00:15:54,793 Mack finally told his son what he witnessed 327 00:15:54,793 --> 00:15:57,482 on that haunting trip to Wright-Patterson. 328 00:15:57,482 --> 00:16:01,689 They went into the hangar, and inside the hangar was 329 00:16:01,689 --> 00:16:05,793 all of the things that were definitely alien -- 330 00:16:05,793 --> 00:16:09,000 you know, not from this world. 331 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,172 What materials, exactly, did he see? 332 00:16:12,172 --> 00:16:15,586 Well, they had really lightweight pieces of beams 333 00:16:15,586 --> 00:16:18,000 that had what looked like hieroglyphics on them. 334 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,275 NARRATOR: The alien material and hieroglyphic etchings 335 00:16:21,275 --> 00:16:22,896 are similar to those described 336 00:16:22,896 --> 00:16:26,517 by the witnesses of the Kecksburg and Roswell crashes, 337 00:16:26,517 --> 00:16:28,172 as well as by abductees 338 00:16:28,172 --> 00:16:32,931 who claim they were taken aboard UFOs. 339 00:16:32,931 --> 00:16:36,172 And your father had no doubt what he was being shown, 340 00:16:36,172 --> 00:16:38,000 that everyone just took matter of fact 341 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,758 that this was extraterrestrial material. 342 00:16:40,758 --> 00:16:44,206 They could easily see that that was a flying saucer wreckage. 343 00:16:44,206 --> 00:16:45,379 Wow. 344 00:16:45,379 --> 00:16:48,172 They knew it was outside of this world. 345 00:16:48,172 --> 00:16:53,000 ♪♪ 346 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,482 Was there anything else that he saw there at the air base? 347 00:16:56,482 --> 00:17:01,482 Well, along with the wreckage, there were bodies. 348 00:17:01,482 --> 00:17:04,068 ♪♪ 349 00:17:04,068 --> 00:17:08,275 NARRATOR: Mark's father claimed he saw several extraterrestrials. 350 00:17:08,275 --> 00:17:11,482 They were small in stature. 351 00:17:11,482 --> 00:17:15,172 They had long, skinny, little arms 352 00:17:15,172 --> 00:17:19,517 with long, little fingers, not as many as we had. 353 00:17:19,517 --> 00:17:22,689 Clearly, they were not from this world. 354 00:17:24,482 --> 00:17:27,000 Aliens. So, your father told you 355 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,689 that he saw alien bodies at Wright-Patterson? 356 00:17:30,689 --> 00:17:32,000 Yes, aliens. 357 00:17:32,862 --> 00:17:36,517 NARRATOR: And one of them was alive. 358 00:17:36,517 --> 00:17:38,172 [ Sighs ] Wow. 359 00:17:38,172 --> 00:17:39,586 Eight months after Roswell, 360 00:17:39,586 --> 00:17:42,586 they had a live extraterrestrial. 361 00:17:42,586 --> 00:17:43,758 Yes. 362 00:17:45,275 --> 00:17:48,310 What happened? I mean, is it still alive? 363 00:17:48,310 --> 00:17:52,793 The CIA, they were doing all kinds of experiments on it. 364 00:17:52,793 --> 00:17:55,172 ♪♪ 365 00:17:55,172 --> 00:17:58,862 My dad could feel the stress that he was in. 366 00:17:58,862 --> 00:18:00,275 NARRATOR: Mark goes on to tell Ben 367 00:18:00,275 --> 00:18:02,689 that the experiments the military performed 368 00:18:02,689 --> 00:18:05,413 on the captured alien were so extreme, 369 00:18:05,413 --> 00:18:08,413 they eventually killed the extraterrestrial. 370 00:18:08,413 --> 00:18:09,586 Killed? 371 00:18:09,586 --> 00:18:12,275 Yes. 372 00:18:12,275 --> 00:18:14,931 They thought that he was communicating 373 00:18:14,931 --> 00:18:18,482 with his home base, and we couldn't allow that to happen. 374 00:18:18,482 --> 00:18:21,103 It did bother him. You could see that. 375 00:18:21,103 --> 00:18:22,482 You know, if I saw that, 376 00:18:22,482 --> 00:18:24,517 I don't know that I would have the composure 377 00:18:24,517 --> 00:18:26,206 to keep it together. 378 00:18:26,206 --> 00:18:29,000 You're only one of probably a handful of people 379 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,931 in this country, maybe on the planet, that knows this. 380 00:18:32,931 --> 00:18:35,379 ♪♪ 381 00:18:35,379 --> 00:18:36,413 Do you know where the military's 382 00:18:36,413 --> 00:18:39,000 reverse-engineering work is done today? 383 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,000 No. 384 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:42,586 Well, thank you so much. 385 00:18:42,586 --> 00:18:43,758 Thank you for sharing 386 00:18:43,758 --> 00:18:47,000 that part of your father's history with me. 387 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:51,275 You have a Air Force decorated officer, 388 00:18:51,275 --> 00:18:54,172 World War II hero, very credible. 389 00:18:54,172 --> 00:18:56,793 He wouldn't lie to his kids, especially, you know, 390 00:18:56,793 --> 00:18:58,620 a couple years leading up to his death. 391 00:18:58,620 --> 00:18:59,896 And he discloses to them 392 00:18:59,896 --> 00:19:02,586 that he was part of the back-engineering that happened 393 00:19:02,586 --> 00:19:04,379 at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. 394 00:19:04,379 --> 00:19:07,931 He handled the debris. He saw alien bodies. 395 00:19:07,931 --> 00:19:10,482 That's something you're never going to forget. 396 00:19:10,482 --> 00:19:14,000 Imagine encountering an alien, and the tragedy of its death. 397 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,689 It's the stuff of science fiction, 398 00:19:15,689 --> 00:19:17,275 but if this happened, 399 00:19:17,275 --> 00:19:20,413 it's truly sad, and I'm just blown away. 400 00:19:20,413 --> 00:19:22,689 We don't know much about research conducted 401 00:19:22,689 --> 00:19:24,103 on extraterrestrial beings, 402 00:19:24,103 --> 00:19:26,793 but we do know about reverse-engineering. 403 00:19:26,793 --> 00:19:28,931 ♪♪ 404 00:19:28,931 --> 00:19:30,275 NARRATOR: Coming up... 405 00:19:30,275 --> 00:19:34,000 All of a sudden, there is this orange beam of light 406 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:34,896 HANSEN: Whoa! 407 00:19:34,896 --> 00:19:38,310 At the very top, there is a cigar. 408 00:19:38,310 --> 00:19:40,689 Like a cigar-shaped craft? 409 00:19:45,482 --> 00:19:46,689 NARRATOR: Investigator Ben Hansen 410 00:19:46,689 --> 00:19:49,103 has uncovered a top-secret government program 411 00:19:49,103 --> 00:19:52,172 that allegedly recovers crashed alien craft, 412 00:19:52,172 --> 00:19:54,896 and then back-engineers the technology. 413 00:19:54,896 --> 00:19:58,034 ♪♪ 414 00:19:58,034 --> 00:20:00,896 While the program's whereabouts are currently unknown, 415 00:20:00,896 --> 00:20:04,275 Ben aims to uncover where it might reside today. 416 00:20:04,275 --> 00:20:07,896 And he has a lead -- his own family. 417 00:20:07,896 --> 00:20:11,137 So, I'm in Utah. I'm gonna interview my own dad. 418 00:20:11,137 --> 00:20:14,172 My late grandfather, Merlin Hansen, 419 00:20:14,172 --> 00:20:16,275 had a very interesting career. 420 00:20:16,275 --> 00:20:19,172 I know he was an engineer for the Air Force, 421 00:20:19,172 --> 00:20:22,551 but I'm not exactly sure what his role was. 422 00:20:22,551 --> 00:20:27,172 He told my dad some things about being part of a secret group, 423 00:20:27,172 --> 00:20:30,379 and my grandpa was pretty tight-lipped, 424 00:20:30,379 --> 00:20:34,275 but my dad says that there's some things he told him 425 00:20:34,275 --> 00:20:36,965 right before his passing that I need to hear. 426 00:20:36,965 --> 00:20:39,275 So, I'm hoping he can shed some light on this 427 00:20:39,275 --> 00:20:42,068 and we can kind of put the puzzle together. 428 00:20:42,068 --> 00:20:44,172 Is it possible my own grandfather 429 00:20:44,172 --> 00:20:45,758 was wrapped up in all of this 430 00:20:45,758 --> 00:20:48,896 reverse-engineering and black project stuff? 431 00:20:48,896 --> 00:20:52,000 NARRATOR: While Ben has long known of his grandfather's involvement 432 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,689 in secret military projects, 433 00:20:53,689 --> 00:20:57,482 this is the first time he and his father will talk about it. 434 00:20:57,482 --> 00:20:59,275 DAVID: Oh, my gosh. Hi. 435 00:20:59,275 --> 00:21:00,586 Trouble! 436 00:21:00,586 --> 00:21:02,482 Hey, buddy. How are you? 437 00:21:02,482 --> 00:21:06,448 It's been awhile, man. [ Smooches ] 438 00:21:06,448 --> 00:21:09,034 I just want to make sure that I get all the details. 439 00:21:09,034 --> 00:21:11,896 I've only got bits and pieces of the story. 440 00:21:11,896 --> 00:21:14,137 So, what exactly was his title? 441 00:21:14,137 --> 00:21:16,379 He was an industrial engineer. 442 00:21:16,379 --> 00:21:20,172 He was involved in logistics and communication systems, 443 00:21:20,172 --> 00:21:23,172 and helping them troubleshoot unusual problems, 444 00:21:23,172 --> 00:21:24,689 and special project work. 445 00:21:24,689 --> 00:21:27,172 And later, we found out, cryogenics. 446 00:21:27,172 --> 00:21:29,344 I know that when you were young, 447 00:21:29,344 --> 00:21:32,965 he said that he was part of a special group. 448 00:21:32,965 --> 00:21:34,448 What was that about? 449 00:21:36,241 --> 00:21:41,344 He said, "Son, I've accepted an assignment with the government 450 00:21:41,344 --> 00:21:45,793 and I'm not going to be accessible to the family, 451 00:21:45,793 --> 00:21:47,482 but there'll be one phone number 452 00:21:47,482 --> 00:21:50,793 that you will have to call and leave a message, 453 00:21:50,793 --> 00:21:54,793 and I'll try to communicate when I can. 454 00:21:54,793 --> 00:21:56,448 What was the first time you realized 455 00:21:56,448 --> 00:21:58,344 that this assignment was taking place? 456 00:21:58,344 --> 00:22:01,586 It started to unfold in '65. 457 00:22:01,586 --> 00:22:03,275 Did he tell you where he was going? 458 00:22:03,275 --> 00:22:05,172 Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. 459 00:22:06,793 --> 00:22:08,000 NARRATOR: Ben's grandfather was 460 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,793 an industrial engineer and computer scientist 461 00:22:10,793 --> 00:22:12,379 who was sent to Wright-Patterson 462 00:22:12,379 --> 00:22:14,896 to install an early computing system. 463 00:22:14,896 --> 00:22:17,586 Is it possible he saw the reverse engineering 464 00:22:17,586 --> 00:22:21,689 of the Roswell and Kecksburg UFOs firsthand? 465 00:22:21,689 --> 00:22:23,275 Could he have laid eyes 466 00:22:23,275 --> 00:22:27,103 on the supposed extraterrestrial beings? 467 00:22:27,103 --> 00:22:29,482 They've got letters here that I wrote to him, 468 00:22:29,482 --> 00:22:31,586 and I put together a chronology 469 00:22:31,586 --> 00:22:35,275 and confirmed dates that he was gone. 470 00:22:35,275 --> 00:22:41,000 Here are letters to the motor lodge. 471 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,172 So, this is you writing him. Right? 472 00:22:43,172 --> 00:22:47,034 I'd let him know how the family was, how Mom's health was. 473 00:22:47,034 --> 00:22:49,896 I wasn't sure if Grandpa had actually told you 474 00:22:49,896 --> 00:22:52,275 which specific times he was going to Wright-Patterson 475 00:22:52,275 --> 00:22:56,482 or somewhere else, but here we have exact dates. 476 00:22:58,379 --> 00:23:01,000 So, let's look at the timeline that you've put together. 477 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,103 ♪♪ 478 00:23:03,103 --> 00:23:04,379 Wait a second. 479 00:23:04,379 --> 00:23:07,793 December 9th and 10th of '65. 480 00:23:07,793 --> 00:23:09,379 That weekend, are you sure about that? 481 00:23:09,379 --> 00:23:11,275 Absolutely positive. 482 00:23:11,275 --> 00:23:14,551 You know what happened December 9th of '65? 483 00:23:14,551 --> 00:23:17,896 Kecksburg, Pennsylvania UFO crash. 484 00:23:17,896 --> 00:23:20,172 ♪♪ 485 00:23:25,689 --> 00:23:27,655 NARRATOR: Ben Hansen is investigating what happened to the debris 486 00:23:27,655 --> 00:23:32,379 of the Roswell and Kecksburg UFOs after they crashed. 487 00:23:32,379 --> 00:23:34,000 He is convinced that they were taken 488 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,965 to Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, and reverse-engineered. 489 00:23:36,965 --> 00:23:38,172 [ Camera shutter clicks ] 490 00:23:38,172 --> 00:23:42,172 Turns out, Ben's very own grandfather was right there 491 00:23:42,172 --> 00:23:46,000 after the Kecksburg crash of 1965. 492 00:23:47,379 --> 00:23:50,482 So, Grandpa gets a call the night of the crash, 493 00:23:50,482 --> 00:23:52,689 basically, and he's gone the next morning. 494 00:23:52,689 --> 00:23:55,344 Gone the next morning. They came, picked him up. 495 00:23:55,344 --> 00:23:57,103 NARRATOR: Was Ben's own grandfather 496 00:23:57,103 --> 00:24:00,241 part of the secret crash retrieval team? 497 00:24:00,241 --> 00:24:03,793 What are the chances he gets an emergency call that night, 498 00:24:03,793 --> 00:24:05,103 and leaves for several weeks 499 00:24:05,103 --> 00:24:08,068 if it's not related to something this big? 500 00:24:08,068 --> 00:24:10,896 It turns out many of these letters coincide 501 00:24:10,896 --> 00:24:13,689 with the dates of famous UFO incidents. 502 00:24:13,689 --> 00:24:18,793 February 21st of '64, the Socorro, New Mexico, landing. 503 00:24:18,793 --> 00:24:24,896 March of '67, the Malmstrom UFO flyover in Montana. 504 00:24:24,896 --> 00:24:29,241 March of '66, the Dexter, Michigan flap. 505 00:24:29,241 --> 00:24:32,586 ♪♪ 506 00:24:32,586 --> 00:24:34,482 Grandma was in the hospital. 507 00:24:34,482 --> 00:24:36,793 Yes. At the time, the doctor said, 508 00:24:36,793 --> 00:24:38,689 "You better get in touch with your dad." 509 00:24:38,689 --> 00:24:40,586 So I called and left a message, 510 00:24:40,586 --> 00:24:42,655 "Please get in touch with me." 511 00:24:42,655 --> 00:24:46,586 So, what you're telling me is when your mom, grandma, 512 00:24:46,586 --> 00:24:50,793 was at the point of death in March of '66, 513 00:24:50,793 --> 00:24:54,758 that he couldn't even come home from what he was doing 514 00:24:54,758 --> 00:24:56,689 to come back to his own wife. 515 00:24:56,689 --> 00:24:57,896 Yeah. 516 00:24:57,896 --> 00:24:59,689 You're talking about somebody who -- 517 00:24:59,689 --> 00:25:03,068 on paper, Grandpa is a technical engineer 518 00:25:03,068 --> 00:25:06,034 who maintains the computer systems. 519 00:25:06,034 --> 00:25:09,034 And so, what's happening in Wright-Patterson then, 520 00:25:09,034 --> 00:25:12,275 is something so important that he can't even come back 521 00:25:12,275 --> 00:25:14,000 to take care of Grandma, who's dying. 522 00:25:15,689 --> 00:25:20,379 Yeah. He came home, and I pushed him on what was so important 523 00:25:20,379 --> 00:25:22,482 and he avoided me. 524 00:25:22,482 --> 00:25:24,448 That was it. 525 00:25:24,448 --> 00:25:27,758 I knew that something else had been happening all along, 526 00:25:27,758 --> 00:25:31,758 and I could never get him to talk to me about it 527 00:25:31,758 --> 00:25:37,275 until the night of September 4th, 1996. 528 00:25:37,275 --> 00:25:40,758 We're at the Salt Lake Regional Medical Center, 529 00:25:40,758 --> 00:25:46,275 he's dying, and I'm the only one with him. 530 00:25:46,275 --> 00:25:49,862 And then, out of nowhere -- I'm holding his hand, 531 00:25:49,862 --> 00:25:56,379 and he said, "Dave, we're not alone. We're not alone." 532 00:25:57,689 --> 00:26:00,551 And I knew what he was talking about. 533 00:26:00,551 --> 00:26:03,103 I squeezed his hand and I said, "Thanks, Pop." 534 00:26:03,103 --> 00:26:10,241 ♪♪ 535 00:26:10,241 --> 00:26:14,655 ♪♪ 536 00:26:14,655 --> 00:26:16,241 NARRATOR: Towards the end of his career, 537 00:26:16,241 --> 00:26:19,034 Merlin Hansen moved his family to Utah, 538 00:26:19,034 --> 00:26:24,482 where he worked at another mysterious Air Force base. 539 00:26:24,482 --> 00:26:26,137 He said, "I've got to go do some work 540 00:26:26,137 --> 00:26:28,586 setting up a lab at Dugway." 541 00:26:28,586 --> 00:26:30,137 Dugway Proving Grounds. 542 00:26:30,137 --> 00:26:32,793 Are you sure of that? Absolutely sure. 543 00:26:32,793 --> 00:26:34,965 He said to me one time, 544 00:26:34,965 --> 00:26:38,172 "Don't you ever go out in the West Desert. 545 00:26:38,172 --> 00:26:39,689 There's nothing in the West Desert 546 00:26:39,689 --> 00:26:42,379 that you ever want to play with. 547 00:26:42,379 --> 00:26:43,689 NARRATOR: Dugway Proving Ground 548 00:26:43,689 --> 00:26:46,793 encompasses over 1,250 square miles 549 00:26:46,793 --> 00:26:49,275 in the Great Salt Lake Desert. 550 00:26:49,275 --> 00:26:50,862 The facility's stated purpose 551 00:26:50,862 --> 00:26:54,172 is the engineering of chemical and biological weaponry, 552 00:26:54,172 --> 00:26:57,034 but it's also home to the highest concentration 553 00:26:57,034 --> 00:27:00,379 of UFO sightings in the western United States. 554 00:27:00,379 --> 00:27:03,482 Countless witnesses claim that UFOs originate 555 00:27:03,482 --> 00:27:07,103 from this secluded location in the West Desert. 556 00:27:07,103 --> 00:27:10,068 Wow, this is amazing. 557 00:27:10,068 --> 00:27:13,034 Was the Wright-Patterson reverse-engineering program 558 00:27:13,034 --> 00:27:16,689 relocated to Dugway Proving Ground? 559 00:27:16,689 --> 00:27:20,689 The base is visible from Ben's father's home. 560 00:27:20,689 --> 00:27:24,000 And in 2015, he and Ben's youngest sister 561 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,758 saw something come from the base 562 00:27:25,758 --> 00:27:29,103 that was so technologically advanced, 563 00:27:29,103 --> 00:27:31,793 it did not appear of this world. 564 00:27:31,793 --> 00:27:36,379 You can see Hill Air Force has got their beacon lit already. 565 00:27:36,379 --> 00:27:38,793 ♪♪ 566 00:27:38,793 --> 00:27:43,793 So you and Jenny, youngest sister, saw something. 567 00:27:43,793 --> 00:27:46,655 August 2015, this one was. 568 00:27:46,655 --> 00:27:49,758 We just had a rainstorm, and all of a sudden, 569 00:27:49,758 --> 00:27:54,034 there is this orange beam of light 570 00:27:54,034 --> 00:28:00,137 that is shooting up like this for almost 10 seconds. 571 00:28:00,137 --> 00:28:01,758 Because of how far away that is, 572 00:28:01,758 --> 00:28:04,482 it had to have been larger than two semis. 573 00:28:04,482 --> 00:28:08,000 Her and I said, "Whoa, that couldn't be lightning." 574 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,655 You couldn't see the end of it. So, like a laser, would you say? 575 00:28:10,655 --> 00:28:12,689 Like a laser. But before it stopped, 576 00:28:12,689 --> 00:28:17,068 we noticed these blue dots 'round it, 577 00:28:17,068 --> 00:28:21,172 looked like to us, that are dancing around the beam. 578 00:28:21,172 --> 00:28:24,103 But they had to be pretty large, too. 579 00:28:24,103 --> 00:28:27,137 And then, and all of a sudden, at the very top, 580 00:28:27,137 --> 00:28:31,482 there is a -- it looks like a cigar. 581 00:28:31,482 --> 00:28:34,379 Like a cigar-shaped object? 582 00:28:34,379 --> 00:28:38,172 Object, clearly. And then, when the beam died, 583 00:28:38,172 --> 00:28:43,034 they all went up into the cigar-shaped object, 584 00:28:43,034 --> 00:28:45,758 and then disappeared. 585 00:28:45,758 --> 00:28:50,172 Was this beam alien, man-made, or a combination of both? 586 00:28:51,586 --> 00:28:55,137 I have to say, there's something extremely strange 587 00:28:55,137 --> 00:28:56,896 going on over the West Desert, 588 00:28:56,896 --> 00:28:59,137 and I can't help but think 589 00:28:59,137 --> 00:29:01,793 that maybe Grandpa was part of all this. 590 00:29:01,793 --> 00:29:03,379 I feel the same way, son. 591 00:29:03,379 --> 00:29:06,482 ♪♪ 592 00:29:06,482 --> 00:29:08,793 HANSEN: For decades, the Dugway Proving Grounds 593 00:29:08,793 --> 00:29:10,965 has been a hot spot of activity 594 00:29:10,965 --> 00:29:14,000 for UFO sightings and conspiracy theories. 595 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,758 In the past couple months, 596 00:29:15,758 --> 00:29:18,689 there's been a lot of video and photo coming out of there 597 00:29:18,689 --> 00:29:22,172 of what looks like exotic spacecraft. 598 00:29:22,172 --> 00:29:23,448 But the question is, 599 00:29:23,448 --> 00:29:26,896 are these UFOs evidence of extraterrestrials, 600 00:29:26,896 --> 00:29:29,758 maybe, you know, monitoring the military base? 601 00:29:29,758 --> 00:29:31,896 Are they a direct threat to us, 602 00:29:31,896 --> 00:29:34,551 or is there really something else going on? 603 00:29:34,551 --> 00:29:38,482 ♪♪ 604 00:29:38,482 --> 00:29:42,241 NARRATOR: To uncover the secrets behind Dugway Proving Ground, 605 00:29:42,241 --> 00:29:44,586 Ben is headed to meet an investigator 606 00:29:44,586 --> 00:29:47,344 who has spent years compiling video evidence 607 00:29:47,344 --> 00:29:50,172 and witness testimony of this base. 608 00:29:50,172 --> 00:29:53,275 ♪♪ 609 00:29:53,275 --> 00:29:55,551 HANSEN: I'm on my way to meet Dave Rosenfeld. 610 00:29:55,551 --> 00:29:57,689 Dave and I go way back. I know him to be 611 00:29:57,689 --> 00:30:00,655 a highly dedicated and knowledgeable ufologist, 612 00:30:00,655 --> 00:30:04,655 and he's recently seen some strange activity around Dugway 613 00:30:04,655 --> 00:30:06,655 that I can't wait to hear about. 614 00:30:06,655 --> 00:30:12,689 ♪♪ 615 00:30:12,689 --> 00:30:18,793 ♪♪ 616 00:30:18,793 --> 00:30:20,689 Dave. Ben, how are you doing? 617 00:30:20,689 --> 00:30:21,896 Good! Good to see you again. 618 00:30:21,896 --> 00:30:24,103 Nice seeing you. 619 00:30:24,103 --> 00:30:28,000 Kind of give me an overview of what's happening at Dugway. 620 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,103 I started getting a lot of correspondence 621 00:30:31,103 --> 00:30:34,793 from military contractors and people that worked at Dugway 622 00:30:34,793 --> 00:30:36,896 that have seen weird stuff out there, 623 00:30:36,896 --> 00:30:39,137 and they want to tell their story. 624 00:30:39,137 --> 00:30:40,862 You get enough of these people coming forward, 625 00:30:40,862 --> 00:30:42,965 you start connecting some dots. 626 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,862 So, I've had a lot of people come forward 627 00:30:46,862 --> 00:30:51,344 that have witnessed the triangular UFOs 628 00:30:51,344 --> 00:30:54,551 that do impossible type of maneuvers -- 629 00:30:54,551 --> 00:30:59,137 from almost a dead stop to, you know, Mach 3 or something. 630 00:30:59,137 --> 00:31:02,275 I mean, it was fast. 631 00:31:02,275 --> 00:31:03,793 NARRATOR: Witnesses across the country 632 00:31:03,793 --> 00:31:06,172 have been reporting black triangle sightings 633 00:31:06,172 --> 00:31:08,068 since the 1980s. 634 00:31:08,068 --> 00:31:10,689 They are described as large, silent objects 635 00:31:10,689 --> 00:31:15,068 moving slowly at low altitudes, before blasting out of sight. 636 00:31:15,068 --> 00:31:18,275 Could these triangles be aircraft reverse-engineered 637 00:31:18,275 --> 00:31:22,103 from UFOs like the one recovered at Kecksburg? 638 00:31:22,103 --> 00:31:25,896 Do we have things that defy gravity, 639 00:31:25,896 --> 00:31:28,448 that can turn on a dime, that are silent, 640 00:31:28,448 --> 00:31:33,482 that that people describe as, you know, UFOs? 641 00:31:33,482 --> 00:31:35,137 I do believe we have this technology. 642 00:31:35,137 --> 00:31:37,379 I do believe they're testing it. 643 00:31:37,379 --> 00:31:38,379 Oh, wow. 644 00:31:38,379 --> 00:31:39,379 But I think it's probably 645 00:31:39,379 --> 00:31:42,482 back-engineered alien technology. 646 00:31:42,482 --> 00:31:45,000 Are you serious? 647 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,793 Coming up... Dave reveals evidence he captured 648 00:31:47,793 --> 00:31:50,241 of what he believes is a high-tech weapon 649 00:31:50,241 --> 00:31:52,344 that is not of this world. 650 00:31:52,344 --> 00:31:53,965 A beam of light shot out -- 651 00:31:53,965 --> 00:31:57,137 you could almost smell static electricity. 652 00:31:57,137 --> 00:31:57,482 ♪♪ 653 00:32:02,344 --> 00:32:04,000 ♪♪ 654 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,344 NARRATOR: Investigator Ben Hansen is on the verge 655 00:32:06,344 --> 00:32:11,448 of uncovering the government's reverse-engineering of UFOs. 656 00:32:11,448 --> 00:32:14,965 His grandfather's records suggest the program was moved 657 00:32:14,965 --> 00:32:19,551 from Wright-Patterson Air Force Base to Dugway Proving Ground. 658 00:32:19,551 --> 00:32:21,586 Now, he's meeting Dave Rosenfeld, 659 00:32:21,586 --> 00:32:24,103 who has been documenting strange activity 660 00:32:24,103 --> 00:32:27,379 around the base for years. 661 00:32:27,379 --> 00:32:29,965 Dave was able to capture evidence that suggests 662 00:32:29,965 --> 00:32:32,344 strange things are afoot at Dugway. 663 00:32:34,172 --> 00:32:37,344 Do you have things that you have seen 664 00:32:37,344 --> 00:32:39,793 that you probably think are extraterrestrial? 665 00:32:39,793 --> 00:32:41,896 Yes, I do have some video I'd like to show you. 666 00:32:41,896 --> 00:32:44,172 I would love to see it. 667 00:32:44,172 --> 00:32:47,689 Some craft or some lights here that we witnessed. 668 00:32:48,793 --> 00:32:50,379 It's up off the ground. 669 00:32:50,379 --> 00:32:54,172 There's no noise. They're moving in different formations. 670 00:32:55,689 --> 00:32:57,793 They make a line. 671 00:32:57,793 --> 00:32:59,689 That's incredible. I can see those -- You see these -- 672 00:32:59,689 --> 00:33:04,103 The light shifting and moving, not like a flare. 673 00:33:04,103 --> 00:33:05,172 It's not, like, appearing. 674 00:33:05,172 --> 00:33:07,896 It's actually moving and changing position. 675 00:33:07,896 --> 00:33:09,896 Yeah, there's multiple lights here. 676 00:33:09,896 --> 00:33:12,275 And then you watch it kind of make a line 677 00:33:12,275 --> 00:33:14,758 Uh-huh. and then kind of turn. 678 00:33:14,758 --> 00:33:16,586 How odd. 679 00:33:16,586 --> 00:33:19,655 But as strange as Dave's videos are, 680 00:33:19,655 --> 00:33:22,068 His most compelling piece of evidence may be 681 00:33:22,068 --> 00:33:25,275 some photographs he took while surveilling the base. 682 00:33:25,275 --> 00:33:28,896 Back in May of '15, 683 00:33:28,896 --> 00:33:30,551 I was with a girlfriend 684 00:33:30,551 --> 00:33:33,000 and we were in an area we call UFO Camp. 685 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,482 This is on the south end of the range. 686 00:33:35,482 --> 00:33:38,379 We were at this location, and then... 687 00:33:40,448 --> 00:33:43,172 a beam of light shot out. 688 00:33:44,793 --> 00:33:48,172 It was strange, because when we witnessed this, 689 00:33:48,172 --> 00:33:52,275 we could almost smell, like, static electricity. Uh-huh. 690 00:33:52,275 --> 00:33:55,793 ♪♪ 691 00:33:55,793 --> 00:33:57,655 Well, you're pretty far away from it, too, aren't you? 692 00:33:57,655 --> 00:34:00,103 Yes, we were miles away from it. 693 00:34:00,103 --> 00:34:03,896 So, here's the first time it fired, 694 00:34:03,896 --> 00:34:06,379 and then the second time it fired, 695 00:34:06,379 --> 00:34:08,586 these blue lights came down. 696 00:34:08,586 --> 00:34:10,965 [ Buzzing ] 697 00:34:10,965 --> 00:34:12,965 and, like, surrounded this beam, 698 00:34:12,965 --> 00:34:15,068 almost like they were watching. 699 00:34:16,965 --> 00:34:18,068 What do you think it is, though? 700 00:34:18,068 --> 00:34:20,241 Do you think this laser thing is ours? 701 00:34:20,241 --> 00:34:24,344 I think this is some kind of offensive weapon. 702 00:34:24,344 --> 00:34:27,068 This is going through the cloud and into space. Uh-huh. 703 00:34:27,068 --> 00:34:30,896 And I think that's what got the attention of these visitors, 704 00:34:30,896 --> 00:34:34,793 and they're coming in and watching our weaponry. 705 00:34:34,793 --> 00:34:37,172 Wow. That's pretty amazing. 706 00:34:37,172 --> 00:34:40,379 Could this incredible light be a weapon of mass destruction 707 00:34:40,379 --> 00:34:43,448 back-engineered from alien technology? 708 00:34:43,448 --> 00:34:46,448 And if so, what do they intend to do with it? 709 00:34:46,448 --> 00:34:48,793 So, where was this? Where were you when you were filming it? 710 00:34:48,793 --> 00:34:50,862 This is on the south end of the range. 711 00:34:50,862 --> 00:34:53,344 I can show you the area. 712 00:34:53,344 --> 00:34:54,896 Awesome. Can we go now? 713 00:34:54,896 --> 00:34:58,275 Sure. You bet. Alright. Let's do it. 714 00:34:58,275 --> 00:35:01,000 What Dave witnessed is unlike any technology 715 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,793 known to the public, and could be proof 716 00:35:03,793 --> 00:35:06,482 that the military's reverse-engineering program 717 00:35:06,482 --> 00:35:08,344 has moved to Dugway. 718 00:35:08,344 --> 00:35:10,103 ♪♪ 719 00:35:10,103 --> 00:35:12,379 Dave agrees to take Ben to the location 720 00:35:12,379 --> 00:35:14,000 he filmed the light from, 721 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,896 and hopes they can find more evidence. 722 00:35:16,896 --> 00:35:20,103 HANSEN: We've now turned off on the exit towards Dugway, 723 00:35:20,103 --> 00:35:21,689 and there is a tension. 724 00:35:21,689 --> 00:35:24,896 There's a level of anxiety that you can literally feel 725 00:35:24,896 --> 00:35:27,241 as you're coming down this road. 726 00:35:27,241 --> 00:35:29,000 NARRATOR: If any facility was capable 727 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,448 of reverse-engineering alien spacecraft, 728 00:35:31,448 --> 00:35:33,896 it's Dugway Proving Ground. 729 00:35:33,896 --> 00:35:36,793 During World War II, this mysterious base 730 00:35:36,793 --> 00:35:39,275 conducted secret chemical weapons tests 731 00:35:39,275 --> 00:35:41,689 and developed experimental aircraft. 732 00:35:41,689 --> 00:35:42,758 [ Jet engine roars ] 733 00:35:42,758 --> 00:35:44,586 It does remind me a lot of Area 51, 734 00:35:44,586 --> 00:35:47,689 because if you get too close to Area 51 735 00:35:47,689 --> 00:35:49,689 and you violated the boundary, 736 00:35:49,689 --> 00:35:52,689 they'll turn you over to the sheriff to be arrested. 737 00:35:52,689 --> 00:35:56,344 So, a little apprehension. We don't want to draw attention. 738 00:35:56,344 --> 00:35:59,241 We just want to come by and see the lookout. 739 00:35:59,241 --> 00:36:04,000 ♪♪ 740 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:08,137 NARRATOR: Dave has led Ben 50 miles southwest of Tooele, Utah. 741 00:36:08,137 --> 00:36:11,137 They are now on the south border of Dugway Proving Ground 742 00:36:11,137 --> 00:36:15,275 and can legally be shot on sight if they cross on to the base. 743 00:36:15,275 --> 00:36:17,482 BEN: This is pretty incredible. DAVE: Isn't it? 744 00:36:17,482 --> 00:36:18,689 Yeah. 745 00:36:18,689 --> 00:36:21,965 This is the exact location where we seen the beam test. 746 00:36:21,965 --> 00:36:26,379 ♪♪ 747 00:36:26,379 --> 00:36:30,172 Okay, so it happened directly over that. Yep. 748 00:36:30,172 --> 00:36:32,689 Okay, right where that peak is? 749 00:36:32,689 --> 00:36:36,379 It's directly over it. Same here. 750 00:36:36,379 --> 00:36:39,241 ♪♪ 751 00:36:39,241 --> 00:36:41,379 At the distance you're seeing it, 752 00:36:41,379 --> 00:36:45,241 the diameter of that beam has got to be huge. It was huge. 753 00:36:46,689 --> 00:36:49,758 I mean, this is incredible by itself, whatever it is, 754 00:36:49,758 --> 00:36:52,379 but yet, we have these visitors. 755 00:36:52,379 --> 00:36:54,103 Coming to watch this test. 756 00:36:54,103 --> 00:36:56,379 Yeah. 757 00:36:56,379 --> 00:36:58,448 And as soon as the test was over, 758 00:36:58,448 --> 00:36:59,655 they flew up into space. 759 00:36:59,655 --> 00:37:00,689 [ Camera shutter clicks ] 760 00:37:00,689 --> 00:37:03,758 This is not the only video captured here. 761 00:37:03,758 --> 00:37:06,655 Dave has regularly captured evidence of UFOs 762 00:37:06,655 --> 00:37:08,344 from this location. 763 00:37:08,344 --> 00:37:14,689 ♪♪ 764 00:37:14,689 --> 00:37:16,241 Ben brought his equipment, 765 00:37:16,241 --> 00:37:18,896 hoping for a sighting of his own. 766 00:37:18,896 --> 00:37:20,275 What better place than Dugway 767 00:37:20,275 --> 00:37:23,172 to come do a sky watch with night vision equipment? 768 00:37:23,172 --> 00:37:27,103 Being here is just really cool, and taking in the energy here. 769 00:37:27,103 --> 00:37:28,275 You never know. 770 00:37:28,275 --> 00:37:31,275 Might get lucky, see something I can't explain. 771 00:37:31,275 --> 00:37:32,344 I've brought with me 772 00:37:32,344 --> 00:37:34,896 the top-of-the-line military technology, 773 00:37:34,896 --> 00:37:36,758 and night vision and thermal equipment. 774 00:37:36,758 --> 00:37:40,344 When I go do these sky watches, I'm looking for certain things. 775 00:37:40,344 --> 00:37:42,172 We're looking for objects in the sky 776 00:37:42,172 --> 00:37:43,586 that are non-conventional. 777 00:37:43,586 --> 00:37:47,482 And what I mean is, does it act and behave like an aircraft? 778 00:37:47,482 --> 00:37:51,482 A satellite? Does it move erratically? 779 00:37:51,482 --> 00:37:54,379 We might have a satellite. I'm guessing that's what it is. 780 00:37:54,379 --> 00:37:56,275 It's in a straight line right now. 781 00:37:56,275 --> 00:37:58,586 Does it hover? Does it make a sound? 782 00:37:58,586 --> 00:38:00,689 Is it in an airspace that it shouldn't be? 783 00:38:00,689 --> 00:38:02,275 Is it too low? 784 00:38:02,275 --> 00:38:04,103 And I like to kind of, at that point, 785 00:38:04,103 --> 00:38:06,482 bring out the different cameras, because you never know 786 00:38:06,482 --> 00:38:09,137 which one is gonna pick up on that wavelength of light 787 00:38:09,137 --> 00:38:10,793 that's going to record it best. 788 00:38:10,793 --> 00:38:12,344 What I'm gonna do is, I'm gonna switch over 789 00:38:12,344 --> 00:38:15,137 to color night vision. Here we go. 790 00:38:15,137 --> 00:38:18,448 This camera would be able to see it in those different colors. 791 00:38:18,448 --> 00:38:26,586 ♪♪ 792 00:38:26,586 --> 00:38:29,655 Hey, we got something coming over the mountain right here. 793 00:38:29,655 --> 00:38:31,586 Okay, it's a plane. [ Chuckles ] 794 00:38:31,586 --> 00:38:32,862 Just kind of looks like a halo, 795 00:38:32,862 --> 00:38:35,275 but you see there's flashing lights with it. 796 00:38:35,275 --> 00:38:38,482 When I see something that I can't explain, 797 00:38:38,482 --> 00:38:41,000 there's a pretty good chance that it's not conventional, 798 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,482 because I've seen all the other stuff. 799 00:38:42,482 --> 00:38:44,793 I'm going to kick this over to black and white. 800 00:38:44,793 --> 00:38:51,482 ♪♪ 801 00:38:51,482 --> 00:38:54,379 We've got something heading directly for us. 802 00:38:54,379 --> 00:38:57,275 Whoa! Whoa! 803 00:38:57,275 --> 00:39:01,103 There's, like, four lights together in some formation. 804 00:39:01,103 --> 00:39:01,931 ♪♪ 805 00:39:07,103 --> 00:39:08,862 NARRATOR: Ben Hansen's investigation 806 00:39:08,862 --> 00:39:11,724 of the government's reverse-engineering of UFOs 807 00:39:11,724 --> 00:39:14,241 has led him to Dugway Proving Ground, 808 00:39:14,241 --> 00:39:17,655 a mysterious military base in the Utah desert, 809 00:39:17,655 --> 00:39:20,413 and he's just spotted unconventional craft 810 00:39:20,413 --> 00:39:23,724 speeding through the skies. 811 00:39:23,724 --> 00:39:25,586 Whoa! Whoa! 812 00:39:25,586 --> 00:39:27,517 If I pan across here, 813 00:39:27,517 --> 00:39:31,103 there's like four lights together in some formation. 814 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,310 It's completely gone. 815 00:39:34,310 --> 00:39:36,896 Oh, that was weird. That was really weird. 816 00:39:36,896 --> 00:39:39,586 So, as I'm panning across the mountaintop, 817 00:39:39,586 --> 00:39:41,344 I see, like, four points of light, 818 00:39:41,344 --> 00:39:42,551 and they're in a formation, 819 00:39:42,551 --> 00:39:46,482 and they're cruising across the mountain ridge. 820 00:39:46,482 --> 00:39:50,413 It caught me by surprise, and I legitimately was excited 821 00:39:50,413 --> 00:39:53,103 until I tried moving the camera again 822 00:39:53,103 --> 00:39:55,068 and saw that it did it again. 823 00:39:55,068 --> 00:39:59,000 And I'm disappointed, because it was a lens flare of the camera. 824 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,689 ♪♪ 825 00:40:01,689 --> 00:40:03,620 But that's why we do this. 826 00:40:03,620 --> 00:40:05,448 You know, we need to make sure that what we're seeing 827 00:40:05,448 --> 00:40:06,896 is truly unexplained. 828 00:40:06,896 --> 00:40:09,896 ♪♪ 829 00:40:09,896 --> 00:40:12,689 NARRATOR: Determined as ever, Ben spends the rest of the night 830 00:40:12,689 --> 00:40:14,896 searching the skies above Dugway. 831 00:40:14,896 --> 00:40:19,206 ♪♪ 832 00:40:19,206 --> 00:40:20,310 HANSEN: That was weird. 833 00:40:20,310 --> 00:40:22,241 NARRATOR: But despite a few close calls... 834 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,517 HANSEN: Oh, I hear something behind them. 835 00:40:27,517 --> 00:40:30,793 Alright, over the top of the mountain... 836 00:40:30,793 --> 00:40:32,896 Just had it, where'd it go? 837 00:40:32,896 --> 00:40:35,758 NARRATOR: ...the Dugway airspace is quiet tonight. 838 00:40:35,758 --> 00:40:38,793 HANSEN: It gets really quiet around here. 839 00:40:38,793 --> 00:40:42,551 NARRATOR: As the sun rises, Ben decides to end his search. 840 00:40:42,551 --> 00:40:45,206 HANSEN: Now, we may not have seen anything unexplained tonight, 841 00:40:45,206 --> 00:40:47,965 but I do feel that we uncovered a lot of compelling evidence 842 00:40:47,965 --> 00:40:50,448 over the course of this investigation. 843 00:40:50,448 --> 00:40:53,137 I find it quite likely the government has 844 00:40:53,137 --> 00:40:55,896 extraterrestrial spacecraft in their possession. 845 00:40:55,896 --> 00:41:00,000 UFO crash material was at Wright-Patterson? 846 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,379 That's correct. 847 00:41:01,379 --> 00:41:04,793 We have recorded testimony that places the Kecksburg Acorn 848 00:41:04,793 --> 00:41:06,896 at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. 849 00:41:10,758 --> 00:41:12,206 We have witnesses who were involved 850 00:41:12,206 --> 00:41:15,310 in the reverse-engineering of memory metal. 851 00:41:15,310 --> 00:41:17,896 They covered an aircraft in this memory metal, 852 00:41:17,896 --> 00:41:20,413 and it didn't show up at all on radar. 853 00:41:20,413 --> 00:41:23,344 We have a World War II hero who, on his deathbed, 854 00:41:23,344 --> 00:41:25,448 told his son he saw not only 855 00:41:25,448 --> 00:41:27,862 the debris from the Roswell crash, 856 00:41:27,862 --> 00:41:30,896 but also a live alien. 857 00:41:30,896 --> 00:41:33,137 They were doing all kinds of experiments on him, 858 00:41:33,137 --> 00:41:35,000 and then killed it. 859 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,620 And we have photo evidence of what looks like 860 00:41:37,620 --> 00:41:42,103 an alien weapon being tested at a U.S. military facility. 861 00:41:42,103 --> 00:41:44,448 [ Buzzing ] 862 00:41:44,448 --> 00:41:47,103 They pass it off as American ingenuity, 863 00:41:47,103 --> 00:41:48,896 but there is a world of secrets 864 00:41:48,896 --> 00:41:51,448 our government is keeping from us. 865 00:41:51,448 --> 00:41:52,965 When are they finally going to tell us 866 00:41:52,965 --> 00:41:55,758 the truth of what's in the skies? 67596

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