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[indistinct
Police radio chatter]
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[siren]
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[girl crying]
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[indistinct conversation]
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[car door opens]
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Thank you, sergeant.
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Hey, chief.
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Uh, so, our victim's name
Is carl nelson.
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A 16-year-old
High school junior.
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He was riding his bike
Home from school
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When an unknown assailant
Shot him 4 times
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With a 9-millimeter weapon
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From a slow moving car.
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Where are
The victim's parents?
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His mother died
Last january,
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And his father's
Down there
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Talking to daniels.
Brought his priest
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With him from
His church.
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Do we know exactly why
Ph.D. Is here?
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Deputy d.A. Garnett
Asked us to pick this one up.
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He said he'd explain
Everything when he got here.
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He didn't call you?
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It's got my new
Cell phone in it.
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You lost your purse?
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No, I didn't lose it,
Sergeant.
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I just can't remember
Where I put it.
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So, garnett's
Coming here? When?
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He's stuck on the 405
Right now,
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But he said
If we could wait--
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No, we're not
Waiting, sergeant.
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The killer's not waiting,
And neither are we.
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The very last thing I need
Is another deputy d.A.
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Telling me how to run
My case.
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I think he seems to think
It's his case.
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It isn't.
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Doesn't look like
A gang member.
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Nope. These aren't
Shoot-me clothes.
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He didn't have any
Weapons or drugs on him.
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I'd want to search his room,
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But no, nothing here
Says gangs.
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Put the sheet
Back over him, please.
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Thank you.
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Ok, chief.
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Father, uh,
Father watson over there...
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The priest standing
Next to the boy's dad.
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Anyway, he tells us
That carl here
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Was about to be
The star witness
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In a motion
For a new trial.
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I guess someone didn't like
What he was going to say.
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Except he already said it.
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Our victim gave
A deposition 2 weeks ago.
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Who's the defendant?
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I knew you'd ask me that.
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May I?
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Yes, sir, uh, father.
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Let me help you,
Father.
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Inmate's name
Is gerald curtis.
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He's on death row.
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Convicted of killing
Husband and wife owners
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Of a kwikmart about
Half a mile from here.
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Well, that's one
Mystery solved.
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Garnett called us
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'cause he's about
To lose a good conviction.
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I want to see my son!
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Sir, sir.
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I want to see my son!
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I'm deputy chief johnson.
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I need you to hold
Yourself together
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Just a few minutes more.
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I want to get him
Off the street.
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He shouldn't be on the
Street. I want to get carl.
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Sir, we can go inside.
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Perhaps you can show me
Carl's room.
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There might be
Something in there.
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I'm not leaving carl on the
Street by himself like that.
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No! This is what happens
From doing the right thing.
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Richard, you cannot
Think that.
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This! This!
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You stay here
With your son.
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I'll show them
Through the house.
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Just relax.
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I'll show you
Through the house.
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All right, then.
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[crying]
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If you're looking
For drugs or weapons,
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You're wasting
Your time.
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Carl wasn't
That kind of a boy.
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You were close to him?
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Yes. Yes, I was. And I
Counseled his mother
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When she was dying
Of cancer last january,
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And carl would...
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Stop by my classroom
Sometimes.
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You were one of
His teachers, then?
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No. He went to
A public school,
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But he knew
A lot of the kids
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At our lady queen
Of peace
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Because he's very
Involved in our church.
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Is this carl's girlfriend?
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Kendall price.
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More like buddies.
She's in my civics class.
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So when carl's father said
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This is what comes
Of doing the right thing,
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He was referring
To testimony
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Carl was about to give
In the case of...
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Gerald curtis
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And his motion
For a new trial.
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Yes, but I
Can't imagine
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That carl would've
Been killed over that.
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Really? Can you think
Of another reason
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Someone would drive
By his house
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And shoot him to death?
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Do you know what carl
Had to say
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That was important enough
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To get mr. Curtis
A new trial?
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I know he gave
A taped deposition
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To defense attorneys.
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A couple of weeks ago.
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D.A.: carl, can you tell us
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About the events you
Witnessed at the kwikmart
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On june 21, 2003?
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It was really hot,
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So I stopped
To get a soda.
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And then this really
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Tall guy came in,
I mean, like,
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Way over 6 feet easy.
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And he was wearing
A red bandanna on his face.
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Like a robber in an old
Western or something.
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At first, I didn't know
What he was doing,
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But then he pulled a gun.
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And he shouted at us
To all lie down
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And not look at him.
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And, uh...
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The husband and wife that
Owned the store, koreans,
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They were behind
The counter.
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And the robber guy
Yelled at them
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To open the register.
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But the husband wouldn't.
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I mean, he started
Arguing with him,
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And then just, boom!
The guy just shot him.
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Garnett: you mind pausing
The tape, please?
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Yes, sir.
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Chief johnson.
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Mr. Garnett.
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Thanks for moving
So quick.
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You know how glad we are
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To cooperate
With the d.A.'s office.
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Right.
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This is gerald curtis.
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This is
The man convicted
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Of killing the two owners
Of the kwikmart
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You just heard about.
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Now, listen to
Carl's description
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Of the assailant.
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[presses button]
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Yeah. Like I said, he was
Way taller than me.
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I don't know, maybe
6'1", 6'2".
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And blonde hair.
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But not like light blonde,
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Like in between,
Like darker.
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And, uh...
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It was pale.
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Not old, either.
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Like maybe 20.
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And when he was
Emptying the register
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And his bandana fell down,
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He had this, like, scar
Running right here.
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Why are you just
Coming forward now, carl?
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Father watson's class
Put up all these fliers
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Asking for witnesses.
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And I knew gerald curtis
Was about to die.
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So I decided,
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I had to do something.
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Buzz, thank you.
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Father watson,
He's the priest
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That took us
Through carl's room.
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Mm-hmm.
And gerald curtis
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Said he was innocent
All along?
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Pope: yeah,
But they all do that.
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Lawyers for
The freedom initiative
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Took him very seriously.
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Also, in complete
Frankness,
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Gerald's first attorney
Was not so hot,
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So if we've got
The wrong guy in line
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For lethal injection,
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I want to know about it,
Chief johnson.
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Given curtis' record, it made
Sense he did those murders.
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Two people put him
In the store at the time
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Of the murders, and he
Never denied being there.
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Also, in fairness,
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Until we heard
The deposition,
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We weren't sure
In which order
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The victims were shot.
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So his testimony
Is very good.
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And now he's dead,
Which looks to me
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Like somebody didn't
Want him in court.
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And it also makes it
A lot harder for you
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To get another conviction.
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And we all know how much you
Hate to lose, mr. Garnett.
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Well, it's gonna be hard
To cross-examine
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A videotape
On the stand.
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So who exactly knew
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That carl was coming forward
With this information?
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Me. Gerald curtis'
New defense team.
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Carl, of course,
His dad, father watson,
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His students, members
Of carl's church,
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And probably
Curtis himself.
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In other words,
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The entire state
Of california.
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Mm-hmm. Including
Our killer.
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Maybe carl didn't
Just describe the guy
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Who killed the koreans
At the kwikmart, but...
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His own murderer as well.
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Chief johnson...
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A moment.
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A little good news.
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I paid most of the ransom
Estelle wanted,
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And I have complete
Custody of my kids.
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Oh...That's wonderful.
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Oh, congratulations.
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Thank you.
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Thanks for your testimony.
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You stuck your neck out,
And that really meant a lot.
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Oh, no problem.
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Chief?
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Dinner's here.
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Oh, coming.
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Uh, I'll think of a more
Appropriate way
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To thank you later.
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Don't. Don't.
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It's my good deed
For the year.
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Oh, and there was
Something else I wanted,
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It was kind of important,
What was it, um...
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Can it wait?
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Sure, yeah.
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Yeah, I can't think
Of it anyway.
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Yeah, we'll talk later.
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Ok.
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Two weeks ago, this carl kid
Records his testimony.
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And then 3 days
Before he gets to court,
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Where the deputy d.A.
Can cross-examine him,
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Someone blows the boy away.
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Doesn't that sound
A little coincidental?
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I don't believe
In coincidence.
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So let's take
The systematic approach.
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Has anyone
Seen my purse?
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I looked in my office
And my car,
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And where are my keys?
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Ok, good.
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Keys, lipstick.
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What else?
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Daniels and I could pull
The booking photos
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Of everyone
With assault charges
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Who match the description
In carl's deposition.
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That would be white males,
Under 30, over 6 feet
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With a scar from
The mouth to the chin.
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Ok, sounds good.
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How far back do you
Want us to go?
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Uh, let's start a year
Before the kwikmart murders
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And take it through
To today.
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And then, lieutenant tao,
261
00:09:26,466 --> 00:09:28,669
If you could follow up
On the casings and bullets
262
00:09:28,702 --> 00:09:30,671
That were in carl's body,
See if we're lucky enough
263
00:09:30,704 --> 00:09:32,172
To have any of them
Match up with the gun
264
00:09:32,205 --> 00:09:34,374
That killed that korean
Couple, because if we are,
265
00:09:34,407 --> 00:09:36,043
Detective sanchez,
I think someone else
266
00:09:36,076 --> 00:09:37,611
Might have seen
Carl's killer.
267
00:09:37,645 --> 00:09:39,279
Who's that?
268
00:09:39,312 --> 00:09:40,781
Gerald curtis.
269
00:09:40,814 --> 00:09:42,115
He's visiting
L.A. Right now
270
00:09:42,149 --> 00:09:44,384
To appear at his motion
For a new trial
271
00:09:44,417 --> 00:09:46,086
Which means that
The contents of his cell
272
00:09:46,119 --> 00:09:47,487
At folsom
Have been vaulted.
273
00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,490
We need a search warrant
To go through them.
274
00:09:50,523 --> 00:09:51,825
See if you can
Manage that
275
00:09:51,859 --> 00:09:53,293
And have his things
Over-nighted to us.
276
00:09:53,326 --> 00:09:54,662
Thank you.
277
00:09:54,695 --> 00:09:56,664
And then
While we're waiting,
278
00:09:56,697 --> 00:09:58,899
Let's put together
A removal order
279
00:09:58,932 --> 00:10:01,034
And send it over
To our new friends
280
00:10:01,068 --> 00:10:02,135
Over at
The da's office
281
00:10:02,169 --> 00:10:04,204
Because
Tomorrow morning,
282
00:10:04,237 --> 00:10:06,039
Gerald curtis is gonna
Have to tell us
283
00:10:06,073 --> 00:10:07,875
His side of the story.
284
00:10:13,513 --> 00:10:14,782
Listen, uh...
285
00:10:14,815 --> 00:10:16,349
Do you think
The two of you could look
286
00:10:16,383 --> 00:10:18,551
For my purse? It's big
And it's black.
287
00:10:18,585 --> 00:10:19,820
Trust us, chief.
288
00:10:19,853 --> 00:10:21,254
We know what your
Purse looks like.
289
00:10:21,288 --> 00:10:23,456
Ok, thank you. It's got
My license in it,
290
00:10:23,490 --> 00:10:25,092
And my credit cards,
My ammunition clip,
291
00:10:25,125 --> 00:10:27,394
My phone.
Brand-new cell phone.
292
00:10:27,427 --> 00:10:29,529
It's got a ring.
293
00:10:29,562 --> 00:10:31,164
[hums "Fur elise"]
294
00:10:31,198 --> 00:10:32,966
Um, have you tried
Calling it?
295
00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,401
Hundreds of times.
296
00:10:34,434 --> 00:10:38,571
It's just, please
See if you can find it.
297
00:10:38,605 --> 00:10:39,572
I am losing
298
00:10:39,606 --> 00:10:41,441
My ability to function.
299
00:10:43,877 --> 00:10:45,846
Thank you, officer.
300
00:11:05,098 --> 00:11:06,566
Gerald curtis.
301
00:11:06,599 --> 00:11:08,401
I'm deputy chief johnson.
I'm sorry to put you
302
00:11:08,435 --> 00:11:09,970
Through transport
From county.
303
00:11:10,003 --> 00:11:11,138
That's no problem.
304
00:11:11,171 --> 00:11:13,273
I loved the trip.
305
00:11:13,306 --> 00:11:14,775
Did detective sanchez
Reappraise you
306
00:11:14,808 --> 00:11:15,976
Of your rights?
307
00:11:16,009 --> 00:11:21,481
Yeah. Yeah. And, uh...
I'm not sure
308
00:11:21,514 --> 00:11:23,383
How much I can tell you
Without my lawyers.
309
00:11:23,416 --> 00:11:25,452
I'm not investigating
The kwikmart murders.
310
00:11:25,485 --> 00:11:27,721
I'm looking into
Who killed carl nelson
311
00:11:27,755 --> 00:11:29,089
Yesterday afternoon,
312
00:11:29,122 --> 00:11:30,323
And you're not
A suspect in that crime,
313
00:11:30,357 --> 00:11:31,691
So you don't need
A lawyer.
314
00:11:31,725 --> 00:11:33,393
And from those chains
You're wearing,
315
00:11:33,426 --> 00:11:35,562
I'm guessing that you
Had a pretty good alibi.
316
00:11:35,595 --> 00:11:38,698
Yes, ma'am, I do.
317
00:11:38,732 --> 00:11:40,133
You know, more than that,
318
00:11:40,167 --> 00:11:45,672
I really needed him alive,
But I'm...
319
00:11:45,705 --> 00:11:48,275
Trying not to think
About it so selfishly.
320
00:11:48,308 --> 00:11:49,743
All I keep thinking about
321
00:11:49,777 --> 00:11:52,212
Is how close I came
To having a new trial,
322
00:11:52,245 --> 00:11:57,851
And now...I don't know.
323
00:11:57,885 --> 00:11:59,186
But on the other hand,
You know,
324
00:11:59,219 --> 00:12:00,420
I only made it this far
325
00:12:00,453 --> 00:12:01,789
Because the kid
Stood up for me.
326
00:12:01,822 --> 00:12:03,891
I guess I should do
The same for him,
327
00:12:03,924 --> 00:12:07,594
But I'm not really sure
What I can tell you.
328
00:12:07,627 --> 00:12:10,630
Well, did you ever
Meet him? Carl?
329
00:12:10,663 --> 00:12:13,300
No. No, I didn't even
Know his name
330
00:12:13,333 --> 00:12:14,301
Until my lawyers
Told me about him
331
00:12:14,334 --> 00:12:15,668
A couple of days ago.
332
00:12:15,702 --> 00:12:17,070
You tell anyone
In prison about carl?
333
00:12:17,104 --> 00:12:18,438
Any of your friends?
334
00:12:18,471 --> 00:12:22,542
I don't have any friends
In prison, ma'am.
335
00:12:22,575 --> 00:12:23,710
And no,
336
00:12:23,743 --> 00:12:26,246
I didn't tell anyone.
You know, I mean,
337
00:12:26,279 --> 00:12:27,680
That was something
That my lawyers
338
00:12:27,714 --> 00:12:29,783
And father watson
Warned me not to do.
339
00:12:29,817 --> 00:12:30,750
You were in touch
340
00:12:30,784 --> 00:12:32,219
With father watson
Personally?
341
00:12:32,252 --> 00:12:33,921
Yeah.
342
00:12:33,954 --> 00:12:35,755
Well, a little.
343
00:12:35,789 --> 00:12:38,158
Through the freedom
Initiative.
344
00:12:38,191 --> 00:12:43,396
I was, like, a project
For his class.
345
00:12:43,430 --> 00:12:45,732
You know,
It was a good thing for me.
346
00:12:45,765 --> 00:12:47,835
It's a really
Good thing because
347
00:12:47,868 --> 00:12:49,970
Carl came forward.
348
00:12:50,003 --> 00:12:53,540
[inhales and exhales]
349
00:12:53,573 --> 00:12:55,308
And I mean,
You know, I know
350
00:12:55,342 --> 00:12:57,911
That in some ways,
I didn't deserve
351
00:12:57,945 --> 00:13:01,081
A second chance.
352
00:13:01,114 --> 00:13:03,483
[crying]
353
00:13:03,516 --> 00:13:05,318
Oh, excuse me.
354
00:13:08,088 --> 00:13:09,456
I keep thinking
About myself.
355
00:13:09,489 --> 00:13:12,960
And I know that
That's wrong. I'm sorry.
356
00:13:12,993 --> 00:13:17,097
You're disappointed.
That's understandable.
357
00:13:17,130 --> 00:13:18,932
I am.
358
00:13:18,966 --> 00:13:22,102
I am, because...
359
00:13:22,135 --> 00:13:23,136
I'm different now.
360
00:13:23,170 --> 00:13:24,704
You know?
361
00:13:24,737 --> 00:13:27,841
I mean, I admit, I admit
I have made a lot of mistakes
362
00:13:27,875 --> 00:13:29,109
When I was young.
363
00:13:29,142 --> 00:13:32,612
But the reward
364
00:13:32,645 --> 00:13:36,449
For change isn't freedom.
It's, uh...
365
00:13:36,483 --> 00:13:38,451
Supposed to be spiritual.
366
00:13:38,485 --> 00:13:42,189
At least that's what
My priests tell me.
367
00:13:42,222 --> 00:13:45,458
So maybe I've been wishing
For the wrong thing anyway.
368
00:13:48,195 --> 00:13:50,463
Sorry, how else can I help?
369
00:13:50,497 --> 00:13:51,564
You said you were
In the kwikmart
370
00:13:51,598 --> 00:13:53,033
During the killings,
371
00:13:53,066 --> 00:13:55,668
And I was wondering if you
Might have remembered
372
00:13:55,702 --> 00:13:57,104
Anything about the gunman.
373
00:13:57,137 --> 00:13:59,239
You may have to revoke
Your right to counsel
374
00:13:59,272 --> 00:14:01,909
To answer that question.
375
00:14:01,942 --> 00:14:03,243
Thank you.
376
00:14:03,276 --> 00:14:05,345
Oh...
377
00:14:05,378 --> 00:14:07,547
I have been waiting years
378
00:14:07,580 --> 00:14:09,082
For somebody to ask me
That question.
379
00:14:09,116 --> 00:14:12,285
I can answer you
Without my lawyers.
380
00:14:12,319 --> 00:14:13,720
I'll just, I'll go ahead
381
00:14:13,753 --> 00:14:15,422
And just tell you
What I told them, ok?
382
00:14:15,455 --> 00:14:17,991
I appreciate that.
383
00:14:18,025 --> 00:14:19,226
I was...
384
00:14:20,427 --> 00:14:22,729
I was high on pcp
At the time.
385
00:14:22,762 --> 00:14:24,564
I wasn't even sure what
The guy was doing, really,
386
00:14:24,597 --> 00:14:25,899
Probably because he had
This, uh...
387
00:14:25,933 --> 00:14:28,835
Handkerchief, you know,
Tied around his face.
388
00:14:28,868 --> 00:14:32,205
It looked like a joke,
You know, but he had a gun,
389
00:14:32,239 --> 00:14:35,175
And he told everybody
To put our heads down.
390
00:14:35,208 --> 00:14:37,244
I thought, you know,
In case this isn't a dream,
391
00:14:37,277 --> 00:14:40,180
I better stare at the floor.
392
00:14:40,213 --> 00:14:41,648
Uh, what else.
393
00:14:41,681 --> 00:14:43,250
He was really tall.
394
00:14:43,283 --> 00:14:46,819
He had lighter hair
Than mine. I remember that.
395
00:14:49,322 --> 00:14:52,025
You have any idea
Why two of the witnesses
396
00:14:52,059 --> 00:14:55,728
Thought that you
Were the killer?
397
00:14:55,762 --> 00:14:58,098
I hadn't showered
In a couple of days.
398
00:14:58,131 --> 00:14:59,732
And I was...
399
00:14:59,766 --> 00:15:01,568
Out of my mind.
400
00:15:01,601 --> 00:15:04,404
As soon as the guy left,
I ran up to the counter,
401
00:15:04,437 --> 00:15:07,474
And if people had looked up
Then, they would've seen me
402
00:15:07,507 --> 00:15:09,842
Taking all the beef jerky.
403
00:15:09,876 --> 00:15:13,613
It's so stupid.
I stuffed it in my pants.
404
00:15:13,646 --> 00:15:15,148
I thought, you know,
405
00:15:15,182 --> 00:15:17,384
Free stuff.
406
00:15:17,417 --> 00:15:19,252
And he's been paying
For it ever since.
407
00:15:19,286 --> 00:15:22,022
Which made him ideal
For me to introduce
408
00:15:22,055 --> 00:15:23,490
To my civics class,
The freedom initiative.
409
00:15:23,523 --> 00:15:24,791
Chief.
410
00:15:24,824 --> 00:15:26,793
We got the report
Back on the casings
411
00:15:26,826 --> 00:15:28,461
And the gun
That killed carl--
412
00:15:28,495 --> 00:15:29,429
Completely different
413
00:15:29,462 --> 00:15:30,964
From the one used
At kwikmart.
414
00:15:30,998 --> 00:15:32,265
Ok, so it won't be easy.
415
00:15:32,299 --> 00:15:33,866
Thank you,
Lieutenant tao.
416
00:15:33,900 --> 00:15:35,602
But you knew gerald
Before his arrest.
417
00:15:35,635 --> 00:15:36,903
No.
418
00:15:36,936 --> 00:15:38,305
But I was looking
For someone just like him.
419
00:15:38,338 --> 00:15:39,472
Really, why?
420
00:15:39,506 --> 00:15:41,208
I want my students to see
From personal experience
421
00:15:41,241 --> 00:15:43,743
That injustice can be found
In their very own neighborhood
422
00:15:43,776 --> 00:15:46,079
And maybe even
At the kwikmart
423
00:15:46,113 --> 00:15:47,714
And, that the consequences
Of that injustice
424
00:15:47,747 --> 00:15:50,083
Could be life and death.
425
00:15:50,117 --> 00:15:52,719
Well, I'd say you made
That point very clear, father.
426
00:15:52,752 --> 00:15:54,554
This way.
427
00:15:54,587 --> 00:15:56,489
Have a seat.
428
00:15:56,523 --> 00:15:58,825
But carl wasn't one of
Your students, though.
429
00:15:58,858 --> 00:16:00,360
No. No, he wasn't.
430
00:16:00,393 --> 00:16:02,262
So how did he
Become involved
431
00:16:02,295 --> 00:16:04,564
In giving mr. Curtis
A new trial?
432
00:16:04,597 --> 00:16:06,333
To see what they
Were doing in our area,
433
00:16:06,366 --> 00:16:08,201
And they sent over copies
Of everything they'd obtained
434
00:16:08,235 --> 00:16:10,537
From gerald's trial,
And I noticed,
435
00:16:10,570 --> 00:16:12,605
From the timestamp
Of the kwikmart's register
436
00:16:12,639 --> 00:16:14,307
That about 15 people
Had come in and out
437
00:16:14,341 --> 00:16:16,876
Of the store minutes,
Maybe even seconds,
438
00:16:16,909 --> 00:16:18,211
Before the murders took place.
439
00:16:18,245 --> 00:16:20,213
But the lapd only interviewed
4 of those people.
440
00:16:20,247 --> 00:16:22,382
So we papered the neighborhood
Looking for a witness
441
00:16:22,415 --> 00:16:23,650
That the police
Might have missed.
442
00:16:23,683 --> 00:16:25,352
And the person
Who finally turned up
443
00:16:25,385 --> 00:16:27,820
Just happened to be
Someone you knew.
444
00:16:27,854 --> 00:16:31,324
Didn't that strike you
As...Coincidental?
445
00:16:31,358 --> 00:16:34,427
Struck me as a miracle,
Ms. Johnson.
446
00:16:34,461 --> 00:16:35,595
You saw carl's testimony.
447
00:16:35,628 --> 00:16:36,729
Didn't you find it
Compelling?
448
00:16:38,898 --> 00:16:40,133
I found it convenient.
449
00:16:40,167 --> 00:16:41,301
Excuse me?
450
00:16:41,334 --> 00:16:43,536
Carl nelson,
A young boy,
451
00:16:43,570 --> 00:16:45,405
With whom you were
Extremely familiar,
452
00:16:45,438 --> 00:16:48,475
Suddenly turns up
With crucial,
453
00:16:48,508 --> 00:16:50,610
Never before heard
Information
454
00:16:50,643 --> 00:16:53,413
About a murder involving
A death row inmate
455
00:16:53,446 --> 00:16:54,714
That you had made
The personal cause
456
00:16:54,747 --> 00:16:57,217
Of your class.
Soon after the boy
457
00:16:57,250 --> 00:16:59,052
Gives his video
Deposition,
458
00:16:59,086 --> 00:17:01,254
He is conveniently
Shot to death
459
00:17:01,288 --> 00:17:02,789
Before the prosecution
460
00:17:02,822 --> 00:17:09,162
Has a chance
To question him.
461
00:17:09,196 --> 00:17:11,030
He stood up for the most
Powerless
462
00:17:11,064 --> 00:17:12,599
And needy in society.
463
00:17:12,632 --> 00:17:14,401
And he was senselessly
Murdered for it.
464
00:17:14,434 --> 00:17:15,802
I don't find it
Convenient, ms. Johnson,
465
00:17:15,835 --> 00:17:18,205
Because it's also
The story of christ.
466
00:17:18,238 --> 00:17:19,906
The foundation of my faith...
467
00:17:21,408 --> 00:17:23,143
Which is not to say
That I am
468
00:17:23,176 --> 00:17:26,979
Any less than horrified
By carl's death.
469
00:17:27,013 --> 00:17:29,949
But now
It's a responsibility
470
00:17:29,982 --> 00:17:31,851
To make sure
That gerald curtis
471
00:17:31,884 --> 00:17:35,422
Receives the benefit of
Carl's sacrifice, isn't it?
472
00:17:35,455 --> 00:17:38,225
That is not my job,
Father.
473
00:17:38,258 --> 00:17:39,426
No.
474
00:17:39,459 --> 00:17:41,261
My responsibility
475
00:17:41,294 --> 00:17:43,296
Is to find and arrest
476
00:17:43,330 --> 00:17:45,132
The person who killed
Carl nelson.
477
00:17:45,165 --> 00:17:48,601
So, unless you can think
Of any other connection
478
00:17:48,635 --> 00:17:51,938
Between your work
And carl's death.
479
00:17:51,971 --> 00:17:53,906
No.
480
00:18:00,046 --> 00:18:03,683
I wonder, ms. Johnson.
481
00:18:03,716 --> 00:18:05,585
Do you believe in god?
482
00:18:05,618 --> 00:18:06,853
Right now,
I believe in god
483
00:18:06,886 --> 00:18:08,688
A whole lot more
Than I believe you,
484
00:18:08,721 --> 00:18:09,822
Father.
485
00:18:12,725 --> 00:18:14,827
We looked at
The register tape, too.
486
00:18:14,861 --> 00:18:16,028
Asked for witnesses
On the news,
487
00:18:16,062 --> 00:18:17,197
Only so many responded.
488
00:18:17,230 --> 00:18:19,098
And when it comes
To this carl nelson kid,
489
00:18:19,132 --> 00:18:20,633
Summers in l.A.,
490
00:18:20,667 --> 00:18:21,901
We got more stray
Bullets than rain.
491
00:18:21,934 --> 00:18:23,536
You're suggesting
That 4 bullets strayed
492
00:18:23,570 --> 00:18:25,572
Into carl nelson's chest?
493
00:18:25,605 --> 00:18:28,040
The wrong kid
May have been hit. Yeah.
494
00:18:28,074 --> 00:18:29,676
His death could be
Completely random.
495
00:18:29,709 --> 00:18:31,178
What physical evidence
Do you have
496
00:18:31,211 --> 00:18:32,412
Suggesting otherwise?
497
00:18:32,445 --> 00:18:33,713
Well, you might try
Investigating.
498
00:18:33,746 --> 00:18:36,483
Look, we are not
Being defensive about it.
499
00:18:36,516 --> 00:18:38,585
It's possible, too,
That detective ross
500
00:18:38,618 --> 00:18:40,887
Did everything right
In his investigation
501
00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:42,889
And the d.A. Convicted
The wrong man.
502
00:18:42,922 --> 00:18:44,324
If you know
What you want to do,
503
00:18:44,357 --> 00:18:45,492
We're here to help.
504
00:18:45,525 --> 00:18:46,893
If gerald curtis
505
00:18:46,926 --> 00:18:48,461
Didn't kill that couple
At the kwikmart,
506
00:18:48,495 --> 00:18:50,497
It's possible that someone
Passing themselves off
507
00:18:50,530 --> 00:18:52,365
As one of the witnesses did.
508
00:18:52,399 --> 00:18:53,833
Did anyone who testified
509
00:18:53,866 --> 00:18:55,668
Or that you interviewed,
Detective ross,
510
00:18:55,702 --> 00:18:56,803
Match the description
511
00:18:56,836 --> 00:18:58,205
That carl gave
Of the killer?
512
00:18:58,238 --> 00:19:00,207
It's been awhile.
I don't remember exactly,
513
00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:04,110
But, twenties, white, tall,
Male, blonde, a scar.
514
00:19:04,143 --> 00:19:05,378
Doesn't narrow down very much,
Does it?
515
00:19:05,412 --> 00:19:06,746
You think?
516
00:19:06,779 --> 00:19:09,349
So far, we have found
323 men with priors
517
00:19:09,382 --> 00:19:10,950
Who could be the assailant.
518
00:19:10,983 --> 00:19:12,319
We're still running
More searches, but I've got
519
00:19:12,352 --> 00:19:14,153
Their booking numbers,
Their photos, so...
520
00:19:14,187 --> 00:19:15,788
Ok, detective ross,
If you could look through
521
00:19:15,822 --> 00:19:17,790
Those people with us.
See if you recognize anyone--
522
00:19:17,824 --> 00:19:19,626
Estelle:
Where is she?
523
00:19:19,659 --> 00:19:21,228
Mrs. Pope, who are you
Looking for?
524
00:19:21,261 --> 00:19:23,129
You know who.
525
00:19:23,162 --> 00:19:24,731
Where is she?
526
00:19:24,764 --> 00:19:26,666
Estelle.
527
00:19:26,699 --> 00:19:28,701
Hello.
Can I help you?
528
00:19:31,037 --> 00:19:33,473
Ok, we have the contents
Of gerald curtis' cell.
529
00:19:33,506 --> 00:19:34,874
Excuse me.
530
00:19:37,210 --> 00:19:39,045
Estelle, why don't we
Go into my office?
531
00:19:39,078 --> 00:19:40,513
I don't need to go
Into your office.
532
00:19:40,547 --> 00:19:42,081
I just came by to say
533
00:19:42,114 --> 00:19:45,418
That if you think that now
That my husband is free,
534
00:19:45,452 --> 00:19:47,520
You're gonna pick up your
Little affair with him
535
00:19:47,554 --> 00:19:48,788
Where you left off,
536
00:19:48,821 --> 00:19:50,457
And take over as the mother
Of my children,
537
00:19:50,490 --> 00:19:52,325
You had better think again.
538
00:19:53,226 --> 00:19:55,562
I--I'll take care
Of this.
539
00:19:55,595 --> 00:19:57,630
Maybe we should
Continue this--
540
00:19:57,664 --> 00:19:59,666
Get your hands off of me.
541
00:19:59,699 --> 00:20:01,968
And don't you ever
Even step
542
00:20:02,001 --> 00:20:03,936
Into my house,
I am warning you.
543
00:20:03,970 --> 00:20:05,338
Because if I find out
544
00:20:05,372 --> 00:20:06,939
That you are sleeping
With will again,
545
00:20:06,973 --> 00:20:09,609
I will reopen
This custody issue,
546
00:20:09,642 --> 00:20:11,511
And I am not kidding.
547
00:20:23,490 --> 00:20:24,557
Sorry.
548
00:20:28,561 --> 00:20:29,629
Sorry.
549
00:20:29,662 --> 00:20:31,431
Sorry,
About that, uh...
550
00:20:31,464 --> 00:20:33,266
Little interruption.
551
00:20:33,300 --> 00:20:34,967
Detective sanchez,
Is that the...
552
00:20:35,001 --> 00:20:38,505
Contents of
Mr. Curtis' cell?
553
00:20:38,538 --> 00:20:40,440
Uh, yes, ma'am.
Straight from folsom.
554
00:20:40,473 --> 00:20:43,476
So if we could maybe get
Organized a little.
555
00:20:43,510 --> 00:20:45,011
Um, sergeant gabriel
556
00:20:45,044 --> 00:20:46,413
And detective daniels,
557
00:20:46,446 --> 00:20:48,715
If you could pass
The booking photos
558
00:20:48,748 --> 00:20:49,882
Off to detective ross,
559
00:20:49,916 --> 00:20:51,318
And he can
Look through them
560
00:20:51,351 --> 00:20:52,885
And see if there's
Anyone he recognizes,
561
00:20:52,919 --> 00:20:54,120
And then maybe
Lieutenant flynn--
562
00:20:54,153 --> 00:20:55,455
Wait a minute.
You mean, we're
563
00:20:55,488 --> 00:20:57,457
Not gonna talk about
What just happened?
564
00:20:57,490 --> 00:20:59,859
No, I don't,
I don't think so. No.
565
00:20:59,892 --> 00:21:00,893
Chief, listen--
566
00:21:00,927 --> 00:21:01,961
If you could look through--
567
00:21:01,994 --> 00:21:03,229
Chief, wait one second.
568
00:21:03,262 --> 00:21:06,533
Did you go deaf all of
A sudden? She said no.
569
00:21:06,566 --> 00:21:08,801
Gabriel: so you want us
To go through the boxes.
570
00:21:08,835 --> 00:21:10,737
Yes, and, um, if...
571
00:21:10,770 --> 00:21:13,840
Chief pope.
Chief pope.
572
00:21:13,873 --> 00:21:17,109
And if, um,
Someone could please
573
00:21:17,143 --> 00:21:18,911
Set up some interviews,
574
00:21:18,945 --> 00:21:21,113
With the old witnesses
From the kwikmart,
575
00:21:21,147 --> 00:21:23,716
To see if any of them...
576
00:21:23,750 --> 00:21:25,852
Are tall and blonde.
577
00:21:25,885 --> 00:21:28,521
Excuse me
Just one moment.
578
00:21:28,555 --> 00:21:30,256
Chief pope.
579
00:21:30,289 --> 00:21:32,258
I can take care
Of this.
580
00:21:32,291 --> 00:21:34,327
What have you
Been telling estelle?
581
00:21:34,361 --> 00:21:35,828
Why does she hate me
So much?
582
00:21:35,862 --> 00:21:38,297
Estelle is angry about
The terms of our divorce.
583
00:21:38,331 --> 00:21:40,199
She's guilty about
Having basically
584
00:21:40,232 --> 00:21:41,701
Sold our children
Because her husband to be
585
00:21:41,734 --> 00:21:43,536
Doesn't want them.
She's lashing out at me.
586
00:21:43,570 --> 00:21:44,871
At you? My god.
587
00:21:44,904 --> 00:21:46,373
I may have just
Lost the respect
588
00:21:46,406 --> 00:21:47,674
Of everyone
Who works here.
589
00:21:47,707 --> 00:21:49,409
Look, before
You were hired,
590
00:21:49,442 --> 00:21:50,643
I made a full
Disclosure to the chief
591
00:21:50,677 --> 00:21:52,479
About our previous
Relationship.
592
00:21:52,512 --> 00:21:54,714
What? You told the chief
We had an affair?
593
00:21:56,215 --> 00:21:58,284
Oh...God.
594
00:21:59,586 --> 00:22:01,654
Is that the thing you forgot
To tell me last night?
595
00:22:01,688 --> 00:22:02,689
No, no, no.
596
00:22:02,722 --> 00:22:04,156
That was about,
I don't know.
597
00:22:04,190 --> 00:22:06,926
I forget what
I forgot to tell you,
598
00:22:06,959 --> 00:22:08,428
I will manage
The fallout from estelle.
599
00:22:08,461 --> 00:22:09,896
Give me a day.
I'll take care of it.
600
00:22:09,929 --> 00:22:11,598
How am I supposed to go back
In there and face my people?
601
00:22:11,631 --> 00:22:14,501
Ahem. Chief, we found
Something you should see.
602
00:22:14,534 --> 00:22:15,835
Ok.
603
00:22:18,838 --> 00:22:19,939
Excuse me.
604
00:22:23,910 --> 00:22:26,245
These are gerald curtis'
Pen pals.
605
00:22:26,278 --> 00:22:28,948
This is kendall price.
606
00:22:28,981 --> 00:22:30,617
Look familiar?
607
00:22:35,154 --> 00:22:36,188
The same kendall price
608
00:22:36,222 --> 00:22:38,157
From carl's bedroom.
609
00:22:38,190 --> 00:22:40,860
I think I'd like
To see this girl in person.
610
00:22:47,166 --> 00:22:50,302
Kendall, I'm deputy chief
Brenda leigh johnson.
611
00:22:50,336 --> 00:22:52,572
And this is
Sergeant gabriel.
612
00:22:52,605 --> 00:22:54,073
Now, I don't want
To scare you,
613
00:22:54,106 --> 00:22:56,776
But everyone who comes
Into this room...
614
00:22:56,809 --> 00:22:58,210
I'll tell you
Why it matters.
615
00:22:58,244 --> 00:22:59,846
Because if pope
616
00:22:59,879 --> 00:23:01,648
Pulled her into our department
Because she's his ex,
617
00:23:01,681 --> 00:23:03,082
I mean, come on,
How does that sound?
618
00:23:03,115 --> 00:23:05,485
I don't give
A flying you know what.
619
00:23:05,518 --> 00:23:06,786
It's nobody's business
620
00:23:06,819 --> 00:23:08,788
What she did with pope
Then or now.
621
00:23:08,821 --> 00:23:10,923
I mean, even if she has
Fooled around with him,
622
00:23:10,957 --> 00:23:13,225
Who does a better job
Around here, you?
623
00:23:13,259 --> 00:23:14,661
Ah! Ah!
624
00:23:14,694 --> 00:23:16,028
I don't want to hear
Another word about it.
625
00:23:16,062 --> 00:23:19,999
And neither does tao
Or buzz, do you guys?
626
00:23:22,001 --> 00:23:23,970
Ok, guys.
627
00:23:24,003 --> 00:23:25,638
But you guys
Don't think that taylor
628
00:23:25,672 --> 00:23:27,740
Isn't gonna have
A field day with this?
629
00:23:27,774 --> 00:23:28,941
I mean, it's bad.
630
00:23:32,512 --> 00:23:34,313
I mean, if she's
Banging the boss,
631
00:23:34,346 --> 00:23:35,882
I want to know.
632
00:23:35,915 --> 00:23:37,850
Well, now that we've got
That out of the way,
633
00:23:37,884 --> 00:23:39,786
We can go on to more
Important matters.
634
00:23:39,819 --> 00:23:41,754
You were close
To carl nelson.
635
00:23:41,788 --> 00:23:44,524
Is that right, kendall?
636
00:23:44,557 --> 00:23:45,525
I knew him.
637
00:23:45,558 --> 00:23:46,826
He went to our church,
638
00:23:46,859 --> 00:23:49,962
And I saw him
A few times after school
639
00:23:49,996 --> 00:23:51,998
In father watson's
Classroom.
640
00:23:52,031 --> 00:23:55,067
Oh. I thought
You were good friends, no?
641
00:23:55,101 --> 00:23:56,703
Not really.
642
00:23:56,736 --> 00:23:59,205
That surprises me.
643
00:23:59,238 --> 00:24:00,573
Because...
644
00:24:00,607 --> 00:24:03,476
This picture
Was the only one
645
00:24:03,510 --> 00:24:05,578
Carl had in his room
Of anyone.
646
00:24:05,612 --> 00:24:08,080
And I know that his mother
Just passed away.
647
00:24:08,114 --> 00:24:11,017
I didn't give him
This picture.
648
00:24:11,050 --> 00:24:13,285
I think it's off of
His cell phone
649
00:24:13,319 --> 00:24:14,621
Or something.
650
00:24:15,755 --> 00:24:17,990
Carl and his mom
Fought a lot.
651
00:24:18,024 --> 00:24:19,692
He said
That she drank,
652
00:24:19,726 --> 00:24:21,994
And stuff like that.
653
00:24:22,028 --> 00:24:24,296
So he spoke with you
About his home life?
654
00:24:24,330 --> 00:24:27,734
That sounds like
You were pretty close to me.
655
00:24:27,767 --> 00:24:31,037
We just started spending
More time together.
656
00:24:31,070 --> 00:24:32,038
Recently.
657
00:24:32,071 --> 00:24:34,541
I mean,
You know how it is.
658
00:24:34,574 --> 00:24:37,176
When you only really
Like someone
659
00:24:37,209 --> 00:24:39,512
But they have a really
Big crush on you,
660
00:24:39,546 --> 00:24:41,147
And you don't want to
Hurt their feelings,
661
00:24:41,180 --> 00:24:44,150
But you know, you just
Want to be friends.
662
00:24:44,183 --> 00:24:47,286
I know exactly
What that's like, yes.
663
00:24:47,319 --> 00:24:48,721
That was me and carl.
664
00:24:48,755 --> 00:24:51,057
Was that you
And gerald curtis as well?
665
00:24:51,090 --> 00:24:52,759
Did he have a little
Crush on you?
666
00:24:52,792 --> 00:24:55,161
Do you know how he got
This photo?
667
00:24:55,194 --> 00:24:57,530
Actually, did you know
He had this photo?
668
00:24:57,564 --> 00:24:59,098
I sent it to him.
669
00:24:59,131 --> 00:25:00,800
Brenda: you were in
Contact with gerald?
670
00:25:00,833 --> 00:25:02,802
We all wrote
To gerry. Gerald.
671
00:25:02,835 --> 00:25:05,271
It was part of our
Class assignment.
672
00:25:05,304 --> 00:25:07,339
How often did you
Write to him?
673
00:25:07,373 --> 00:25:10,643
I don't know.
Only a few times.
674
00:25:10,677 --> 00:25:15,081
We didn't find any of your
Letters in gerry's cell.
675
00:25:15,114 --> 00:25:17,016
Prison mail isn't private.
They can read it
676
00:25:17,049 --> 00:25:18,484
If they want to.
677
00:25:18,517 --> 00:25:20,653
So gerry threw away
All of his personal letters.
678
00:25:20,687 --> 00:25:23,355
So the letters that you
Wrote to gerry were personal?
679
00:25:23,389 --> 00:25:24,490
No.
680
00:25:24,523 --> 00:25:27,193
No, he had a small cell,
681
00:25:27,226 --> 00:25:28,394
And he didn't have
A lot of room
682
00:25:28,427 --> 00:25:31,230
To keep things,
So you know,
683
00:25:31,263 --> 00:25:34,300
He threw away
My letters.
684
00:25:34,333 --> 00:25:36,468
How do you know that?
Did he write you back?
685
00:25:36,502 --> 00:25:38,270
Well...
686
00:25:38,304 --> 00:25:39,471
Yes.
687
00:25:39,505 --> 00:25:40,840
How often?
688
00:25:40,873 --> 00:25:43,109
Only a few times.
689
00:25:43,142 --> 00:25:44,977
And it was not
At all personal.
690
00:25:45,011 --> 00:25:48,147
Gabriel: hmm. Then why did
You send him the photo?
691
00:25:48,180 --> 00:25:50,549
It's just
A school photo.
692
00:25:50,583 --> 00:25:52,418
Is there anything
Wrong with that?
693
00:25:52,451 --> 00:25:55,254
Nothing. Nothing, kendall.
Not one thing.
694
00:25:55,287 --> 00:25:57,523
Now, do you mind if I
Look at the letters
695
00:25:57,556 --> 00:25:58,991
That gerry wrote you
696
00:25:59,025 --> 00:26:00,693
Since they are
Not at all personal?
697
00:26:00,727 --> 00:26:02,394
I didn't save them.
698
00:26:03,830 --> 00:26:05,531
I, um...
699
00:26:05,564 --> 00:26:07,299
Shredded them.
700
00:26:07,333 --> 00:26:08,801
And threw them away.
701
00:26:08,835 --> 00:26:10,770
Gabriel:
You shredded them?
702
00:26:10,803 --> 00:26:12,504
Well, kendall,
703
00:26:12,538 --> 00:26:14,506
You certainly are careful
With how you dispose
704
00:26:14,540 --> 00:26:17,710
Of your meaningless
Correspondence.
705
00:26:19,545 --> 00:26:21,781
So just right down this hall,
To the left.
706
00:26:21,814 --> 00:26:22,815
Ok.
707
00:26:22,849 --> 00:26:25,151
Ok, thank you.
708
00:26:26,118 --> 00:26:27,486
So, now what?
709
00:26:27,519 --> 00:26:29,656
Let's get a search warrant
For her house,
710
00:26:29,689 --> 00:26:32,058
And let's get there
Before she does.
711
00:26:36,128 --> 00:26:37,429
Hi.
712
00:26:39,465 --> 00:26:41,801
I still
Can't find my purse.
713
00:26:41,834 --> 00:26:43,636
I think I should cancel
My credit cards.
714
00:26:43,670 --> 00:26:44,804
What do you think?
715
00:26:46,505 --> 00:26:49,275
Did you have a bad day?
What is it?
716
00:26:49,308 --> 00:26:51,077
Yeah, I had
A bad day.
717
00:26:51,110 --> 00:26:53,512
Did you?
718
00:26:55,514 --> 00:26:57,817
I think I need a glass
Of merlot.
719
00:27:00,619 --> 00:27:01,888
Yeah, well,
I'm not surprised.
720
00:27:01,921 --> 00:27:04,390
That must've been
A big shock.
721
00:27:04,423 --> 00:27:07,794
Having estelle pope
Burst in on you
722
00:27:07,827 --> 00:27:09,228
Like that.
723
00:27:09,261 --> 00:27:10,529
Dredging up the past.
724
00:27:10,562 --> 00:27:13,900
Making all those...
Wild accusations.
725
00:27:13,933 --> 00:27:15,634
Oh, I know that look.
726
00:27:15,668 --> 00:27:16,869
You're trying
To figure out
727
00:27:16,903 --> 00:27:19,571
How angry I am.
So you can decide
728
00:27:19,605 --> 00:27:20,873
How much you
Ought to explain.
729
00:27:20,907 --> 00:27:23,642
Look...I don't know
What you heard.
730
00:27:23,676 --> 00:27:26,212
But I don't like
What happened today either.
731
00:27:26,245 --> 00:27:27,680
How do you know
About all this anyway?
732
00:27:27,714 --> 00:27:29,348
That's not important.
What's important
733
00:27:29,381 --> 00:27:30,917
Is that estelle
Accused you
734
00:27:30,950 --> 00:27:32,384
Of wanting to get
Back together with pope.
735
00:27:32,418 --> 00:27:33,686
And she wouldn't
Have done that
736
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,087
If she didn't think
It was true.
737
00:27:35,121 --> 00:27:36,255
And why does she
Think that?
738
00:27:36,288 --> 00:27:38,925
I don't know,
Because it's--
739
00:27:38,958 --> 00:27:39,558
It's not true.
740
00:27:39,591 --> 00:27:40,960
It is not what I want.
741
00:27:40,993 --> 00:27:42,161
It doesn't matter
What you want, brenda.
742
00:27:42,194 --> 00:27:43,495
I know what you want.
743
00:27:43,529 --> 00:27:45,097
Just like estelle knows
What pope wants.
744
00:27:45,131 --> 00:27:47,867
Which is why she burst in
On your murder room today,
745
00:27:47,900 --> 00:27:50,136
And now everybody else
Knows how pope feels.
746
00:27:50,169 --> 00:27:52,071
And you're not doing
Anything about it. Nothing.
747
00:27:52,104 --> 00:27:53,806
You just, it just goes on.
748
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,708
Well, I don't know
What you want me to do.
749
00:27:55,742 --> 00:27:57,810
I mean, I can't help
How pope feels.
750
00:27:57,844 --> 00:27:59,245
See, that's why
I'm mad, brenda.
751
00:27:59,278 --> 00:28:00,880
Because you can help
How pope feels
752
00:28:00,913 --> 00:28:02,681
By being absolutely
Clear with him.
753
00:28:02,715 --> 00:28:04,283
I'll show you
How it's done.
754
00:28:04,316 --> 00:28:05,517
All right?
755
00:28:05,551 --> 00:28:08,054
I will be clear
About how I feel.
756
00:28:08,087 --> 00:28:10,056
I love you, brenda.
757
00:28:10,089 --> 00:28:11,490
I love you.
758
00:28:13,092 --> 00:28:16,428
How is that
For clarity?
759
00:28:26,005 --> 00:28:27,940
[door closes]
760
00:29:08,147 --> 00:29:09,248
[rattle]
761
00:29:09,281 --> 00:29:11,717
Fritzy, is that you?
762
00:29:13,452 --> 00:29:14,753
[meow]
763
00:30:12,478 --> 00:30:13,612
[knock on door]
764
00:30:13,645 --> 00:30:16,148
Uh, chief? Chief?
765
00:30:16,182 --> 00:30:18,350
We searched
Kendall price's house.
766
00:30:18,384 --> 00:30:19,451
Do you need help there?
767
00:30:19,485 --> 00:30:21,520
No. No.
768
00:30:21,553 --> 00:30:22,721
Oh.
769
00:30:22,754 --> 00:30:24,623
Uh, and?
770
00:30:24,656 --> 00:30:26,192
We didn't find any
Letters from gerald curtis.
771
00:30:26,225 --> 00:30:28,527
So maybe she really did
Get rid of them.
772
00:30:30,462 --> 00:30:31,463
I don't think so.
773
00:30:33,265 --> 00:30:34,666
No.
774
00:30:34,700 --> 00:30:38,370
In fact, I'd be surprised
If she dumped a single one.
775
00:30:38,404 --> 00:30:40,306
They may
Not be at her house,
776
00:30:40,339 --> 00:30:42,141
But they might be at school.
777
00:30:42,174 --> 00:30:45,211
So I think we should give
Father watson a call.
778
00:30:45,244 --> 00:30:46,845
Ok.
779
00:30:46,879 --> 00:30:47,980
It's my locker.
780
00:30:48,014 --> 00:30:49,415
Kendall, let me
Handle this.
781
00:30:49,448 --> 00:30:51,083
This is a violation
Of a student's trust.
782
00:30:51,117 --> 00:30:52,919
I think you probably
Should look--
783
00:30:52,952 --> 00:30:54,120
High school students
Don't have any
784
00:30:54,153 --> 00:30:56,188
Reasonable expectation
Of privacy.
785
00:30:56,222 --> 00:30:58,090
There is no trust
To violate.
786
00:30:58,124 --> 00:30:59,425
What this boils down to,
Father,
787
00:30:59,458 --> 00:31:01,093
Is that I'm investigating
The murder
788
00:31:01,127 --> 00:31:02,428
Of a young boy
Who yesterday
789
00:31:02,461 --> 00:31:03,930
You compared
To jesus christ.
790
00:31:03,963 --> 00:31:05,697
And now you are standing
In my way here.
791
00:31:05,731 --> 00:31:08,400
Because you're using gerry's
Innocent love letters
792
00:31:08,434 --> 00:31:11,837
To undue everything
Carl died for.
793
00:31:11,870 --> 00:31:15,641
I guess I'm not the only
One listening to confession.
794
00:31:15,674 --> 00:31:17,609
So, you want to finish
This now, father,
795
00:31:17,643 --> 00:31:19,745
Or do you want us to post
A guard around this locker
796
00:31:19,778 --> 00:31:22,381
While we get
The archdiocese involved?
797
00:31:29,055 --> 00:31:31,123
Father watson, don't.
798
00:31:31,157 --> 00:31:34,393
I'm sorry, kendall.
We have no choice.
799
00:31:57,749 --> 00:31:59,085
In a timeline.
800
00:31:59,118 --> 00:32:00,252
February 3,
First contact.
801
00:32:00,286 --> 00:32:03,855
March 12th,
802
00:32:03,889 --> 00:32:06,025
Then there's the first,
I think I might love you
803
00:32:06,058 --> 00:32:07,859
From gerry, march 18,
804
00:32:07,893 --> 00:32:09,828
And his happiness
At her having said
805
00:32:09,861 --> 00:32:11,497
I love you back, march 23.
806
00:32:11,530 --> 00:32:14,300
Flynn: may 2, he wishes some
Witness would come forward
807
00:32:14,333 --> 00:32:15,501
To clear his name,
808
00:32:15,534 --> 00:32:16,802
So he could get out
Of prison,
809
00:32:16,835 --> 00:32:19,805
And "Wrap my arms
Around you."
810
00:32:19,838 --> 00:32:22,041
Signed, "Yours in christ,"
And then, "Please burn this."
811
00:32:22,074 --> 00:32:23,542
And then again on may 12,
812
00:32:23,575 --> 00:32:25,444
"I pray every night
That someone will appear
813
00:32:25,477 --> 00:32:26,778
And tell the truth
About what happened,"
814
00:32:26,812 --> 00:32:28,847
And then like all
The other letters,
815
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:29,948
It's signed,
816
00:32:29,982 --> 00:32:31,917
"Yours in christ,
Please burn this."
817
00:32:31,950 --> 00:32:33,185
And then, for two
Weeks, no letters.
818
00:32:33,219 --> 00:32:34,853
When they start
Back up again,
819
00:32:34,886 --> 00:32:37,256
There's no mention of the gap.
It's like it never happened.
820
00:32:37,289 --> 00:32:38,724
Then kendall's
Running errands for him.
821
00:32:38,757 --> 00:32:40,426
Forwarding mail,
Making phone calls,
822
00:32:40,459 --> 00:32:41,960
And then the idea
Of a new witness
823
00:32:41,994 --> 00:32:43,329
Never pops back up.
824
00:32:43,362 --> 00:32:45,197
She was forwarding mail?
To whom?
825
00:32:45,231 --> 00:32:46,465
Gerald's mother
In fullerton,
826
00:32:46,498 --> 00:32:48,067
His uncle,
Someone named stevie,
827
00:32:48,100 --> 00:32:49,801
And phone calls
To him as well.
828
00:32:49,835 --> 00:32:52,338
Kendall's supposed to
"Ask if he got my letter.
829
00:32:52,371 --> 00:32:54,506
Tell him I need a response."
830
00:32:54,540 --> 00:32:56,475
Last letter
Was 8 days ago.
831
00:32:56,508 --> 00:32:58,344
"Call stevie and tell him
832
00:32:58,377 --> 00:33:00,212
"I'm coming to town,
And I still don't know
833
00:33:00,246 --> 00:33:01,347
What he wants to do."
834
00:33:01,380 --> 00:33:02,614
Brenda:
Did detective ross
835
00:33:02,648 --> 00:33:04,083
Bring back
The booking photos
836
00:33:04,116 --> 00:33:05,817
Of known perps matching
Carl's description?
837
00:33:05,851 --> 00:33:08,154
Yes, he said none of them
Were witnesses.
838
00:33:08,187 --> 00:33:09,755
Ok, let's look for
Someone named
839
00:33:09,788 --> 00:33:12,658
Steven, steve, stevie,
Initial s.
840
00:33:12,691 --> 00:33:14,260
Detective sanchez,
Would you help her
841
00:33:14,293 --> 00:33:15,527
With that?
Sergeant gabriel,
842
00:33:15,561 --> 00:33:16,762
Do we have mr. Curtis'
Rap sheet?
843
00:33:16,795 --> 00:33:18,597
Uh, yeah, but it's
A little sketchy.
844
00:33:18,630 --> 00:33:20,066
Most of his offenses
Were committed
845
00:33:20,099 --> 00:33:21,433
When he was a minor.
846
00:33:21,467 --> 00:33:24,236
That's ok, I just need
The dates of his arrests.
847
00:33:24,270 --> 00:33:27,739
Excuse me.
Sorry to interrupt.
848
00:33:27,773 --> 00:33:29,575
Just wanted to say
A word or two
849
00:33:29,608 --> 00:33:31,810
About what happened here
Yesterday.
850
00:33:31,843 --> 00:33:34,813
That's not necessary,
Commander. Thank you.
851
00:33:34,846 --> 00:33:36,482
Well, it is.
852
00:33:36,515 --> 00:33:39,285
Just had a long
Conversation with the chief,
853
00:33:39,318 --> 00:33:40,819
And he feels
854
00:33:40,852 --> 00:33:42,688
It's in the department's
Best interest
855
00:33:42,721 --> 00:33:45,324
If I help put this episode
With estelle pope behind us.
856
00:33:45,357 --> 00:33:46,592
Especially considering
857
00:33:46,625 --> 00:33:48,694
The success rate
Of your division.
858
00:33:48,727 --> 00:33:50,096
[clears throat]
859
00:33:50,129 --> 00:33:53,665
And the long
And the short of it is...
860
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,835
There's nothing substantive
To the terrible things
861
00:33:56,868 --> 00:33:59,505
That were said about
Chief johnson.
862
00:33:59,538 --> 00:34:01,740
And I'm also supposed
To remind everyone
863
00:34:01,773 --> 00:34:03,575
That there's
A big blue line
864
00:34:03,609 --> 00:34:04,776
At the door in this building,
865
00:34:04,810 --> 00:34:06,912
And estelle pope
Crossed over it.
866
00:34:06,945 --> 00:34:08,247
And I hope we all know
How to behave
867
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:12,884
When one of our own
Is falsely accused.
868
00:34:12,918 --> 00:34:16,355
So...Pardon me
For interrupting.
869
00:34:16,388 --> 00:34:17,923
And if you need
Any further
870
00:34:17,956 --> 00:34:21,327
Help with this problem,
Chief johnson,
871
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:22,594
You know where I am.
872
00:34:22,628 --> 00:34:24,130
Thank you, commander,
873
00:34:24,163 --> 00:34:26,965
For that spontaneous
Defense of my honor.
874
00:34:26,998 --> 00:34:29,635
My pleasure, ma'am.
875
00:34:29,668 --> 00:34:31,870
My pleasure.
876
00:34:35,807 --> 00:34:36,642
You know they made him
Come down here
877
00:34:36,675 --> 00:34:38,177
And say that.
878
00:34:38,210 --> 00:34:39,678
Yes. That's exactly
What happened, lieutenant.
879
00:34:39,711 --> 00:34:41,113
They agreed on their story,
880
00:34:41,147 --> 00:34:45,050
And they went over
What they wanted him to say.
881
00:34:47,786 --> 00:34:50,956
I, uh, found 4 steves,
882
00:34:50,989 --> 00:34:52,924
And this one, steven brand,
883
00:34:52,958 --> 00:34:56,061
Arrested 8:45,
October 15, 1998,
884
00:34:56,094 --> 00:34:57,563
Possession of
A controlled substance
885
00:34:57,596 --> 00:34:58,997
By hollywood division.
886
00:34:59,030 --> 00:35:01,933
Gerald curtis,
Arrested october 15, 1998,
887
00:35:01,967 --> 00:35:03,669
8:45 p.M., possession of
A controlled substance
888
00:35:03,702 --> 00:35:05,070
By hollywood division.
889
00:35:05,103 --> 00:35:07,339
Steven brand arrested
By valley division.
890
00:35:07,373 --> 00:35:09,275
Breaking and entering,
Robbery,
891
00:35:09,308 --> 00:35:10,509
On august 3.
892
00:35:10,542 --> 00:35:12,244
Gerald curtis
Arrested by valley division
893
00:35:12,278 --> 00:35:13,412
On august 3, 2000.
894
00:35:13,445 --> 00:35:16,014
Both sentenced to juvie
For a year and a half.
895
00:35:16,047 --> 00:35:18,884
Steven and gerry
Were partners.
896
00:35:21,287 --> 00:35:23,121
We arrested steven brand
And executed a search
897
00:35:23,155 --> 00:35:24,690
Of his apartment
And his car
898
00:35:24,723 --> 00:35:25,991
Looking for weapons
899
00:35:26,024 --> 00:35:27,893
Or any mail forwarded
From folsom.
900
00:35:27,926 --> 00:35:30,629
We found what we believe
To be the murder weapon,
901
00:35:30,662 --> 00:35:31,897
A 9-millimeter pistol
902
00:35:31,930 --> 00:35:33,365
Used to kill carl nelson,
903
00:35:33,399 --> 00:35:35,401
Under the driver's seat
Of his black honda accord.
904
00:35:35,434 --> 00:35:38,003
We also found letters
To the suspect
905
00:35:38,036 --> 00:35:40,872
From gerald curtis
In a lockbox under his bed.
906
00:35:40,906 --> 00:35:42,274
Subsequent to the search,
907
00:35:42,308 --> 00:35:43,875
We checked phone records
And discovered
908
00:35:43,909 --> 00:35:44,976
That steven had received
909
00:35:45,010 --> 00:35:47,246
4 phone calls
From you, kendall.
910
00:35:50,148 --> 00:35:52,083
Is this the guy gerry had
You forwarding mail to?
911
00:35:52,117 --> 00:35:54,019
As you can see,
He's white,
912
00:35:54,052 --> 00:35:56,021
He's got dirty blonde hair,
913
00:35:56,054 --> 00:35:57,723
A scar running from
His mouth to his chin,
914
00:35:57,756 --> 00:36:00,259
And if he were to stand
Up, he'd be pretty tall.
915
00:36:00,292 --> 00:36:02,394
Does that description
Sound familiar,
916
00:36:02,428 --> 00:36:05,030
Or do you need a red bandana
To jog your memory?
917
00:36:06,131 --> 00:36:07,366
Kendall.
918
00:36:08,867 --> 00:36:10,168
What'd you do?
919
00:36:10,202 --> 00:36:13,305
Nothing, father.
I...
920
00:36:13,339 --> 00:36:15,140
He just wanted
Steven to know
921
00:36:15,173 --> 00:36:16,408
That he was
Back in town.
922
00:36:16,442 --> 00:36:18,410
To have him come
Visit in jail.
923
00:36:18,444 --> 00:36:21,347
They were friends,
And gerry said
924
00:36:21,380 --> 00:36:24,350
That steven was still
Using drugs,
925
00:36:24,383 --> 00:36:26,252
And that he wanted
To talk to him
926
00:36:26,285 --> 00:36:27,986
About how sobriety had made
A change in his life.
927
00:36:28,019 --> 00:36:29,355
That's all.
928
00:36:29,388 --> 00:36:30,822
I have looked
Through the letters
929
00:36:30,856 --> 00:36:32,324
That gerry sent you
From prison,
930
00:36:32,358 --> 00:36:34,092
And I think some of them
Are missing, kendall.
931
00:36:34,125 --> 00:36:36,628
You have everything.
932
00:36:36,662 --> 00:36:39,365
Look, you're making things
Very difficult for me
933
00:36:39,398 --> 00:36:42,133
Because like many
Hardened criminals,
934
00:36:42,167 --> 00:36:44,603
Your friend steven here
Has asked for an attorney.
935
00:36:44,636 --> 00:36:47,473
That means we cannot
Question him directly.
936
00:36:47,506 --> 00:36:49,875
You've got information
I need, kendall.
937
00:36:49,908 --> 00:36:51,343
And you're not
Telling me.
938
00:36:51,377 --> 00:36:54,145
We'd like to do this
Without arresting you.
939
00:36:58,350 --> 00:36:59,351
Buzz, could you please
Turn on that other monitor?
940
00:36:59,385 --> 00:37:01,487
Yes, ma'am.
941
00:37:02,921 --> 00:37:04,723
Gerry.
942
00:37:06,858 --> 00:37:08,494
I'm gonna give you one more
Run at this, kendall.
943
00:37:08,527 --> 00:37:10,829
I want you to listen
Very closely
944
00:37:10,862 --> 00:37:12,598
To what gerry has to say.
945
00:37:17,903 --> 00:37:19,505
Brenda: thank you, officer.
946
00:37:19,538 --> 00:37:21,907
Ma'am, it's great
To see you again.
947
00:37:21,940 --> 00:37:23,509
You, too, gerald.
948
00:37:23,542 --> 00:37:25,544
I hope I'm not disturbing
Your sleep too much.
949
00:37:25,577 --> 00:37:27,346
You've got your motion for
A new trial tomorrow, right?
950
00:37:27,379 --> 00:37:29,448
Yes, ma'am.
951
00:37:29,481 --> 00:37:31,517
Well, you'll probably
Be glad to hear
952
00:37:31,550 --> 00:37:34,753
That we found the person
Who murdered carl nelson--
953
00:37:34,786 --> 00:37:36,455
Steven brand.
954
00:37:36,488 --> 00:37:38,924
He also matched
The description that carl
955
00:37:38,957 --> 00:37:41,493
Gave of the person who shot
The korean couple.
956
00:37:41,527 --> 00:37:43,329
He's not talking, of course.
He has a lawyer.
957
00:37:43,362 --> 00:37:46,031
Wow, that's amazing.
958
00:37:46,064 --> 00:37:47,265
When did you find him?
959
00:37:47,299 --> 00:37:49,535
A couple hours ago.
960
00:37:49,568 --> 00:37:53,204
So the only thing
I have left for you
961
00:37:53,238 --> 00:37:54,740
Is a question or two
962
00:37:54,773 --> 00:37:56,642
About some letters
That we found
963
00:37:56,675 --> 00:37:58,310
In his apartment
From you
964
00:37:58,344 --> 00:38:00,145
Forwarded to him
By a young girl
965
00:38:00,178 --> 00:38:02,080
By the name of
Kendall price.
966
00:38:02,113 --> 00:38:03,749
You know kendall.
967
00:38:03,782 --> 00:38:05,651
You kept a picture
Of her.
968
00:38:05,684 --> 00:38:07,753
In your cell at folsom.
969
00:38:08,887 --> 00:38:10,656
She was one of
Several young ladies
970
00:38:10,689 --> 00:38:12,090
You had photographs of.
971
00:38:12,123 --> 00:38:14,860
So who are these women,
972
00:38:14,893 --> 00:38:17,496
By the way, whose pictures
You had up in your cell?
973
00:38:17,529 --> 00:38:21,266
Uh, just girls
That I write to.
974
00:38:21,299 --> 00:38:22,768
Or who write to me.
975
00:38:22,801 --> 00:38:24,636
Some of my girlfriends.
976
00:38:24,670 --> 00:38:27,906
Was kendall
One of your girlfriends?
977
00:38:27,939 --> 00:38:30,041
No. Not really.
978
00:38:30,075 --> 00:38:31,510
No.
979
00:38:31,543 --> 00:38:34,480
She was, uh, too
Young for me.
980
00:38:34,513 --> 00:38:36,214
Really?
981
00:38:36,247 --> 00:38:37,649
That's not what you said
982
00:38:37,683 --> 00:38:39,851
In the letters
That you wrote to her.
983
00:38:41,620 --> 00:38:44,189
Ok...Look.
984
00:38:44,222 --> 00:38:45,691
I was nice to her
985
00:38:45,724 --> 00:38:46,992
Because she wrote me
All this...
986
00:38:47,025 --> 00:38:48,259
Like fan mail.
987
00:38:48,293 --> 00:38:50,762
And I didn't want
To hurt her feelings.
988
00:38:50,796 --> 00:38:52,364
That's all.
989
00:38:52,398 --> 00:38:55,834
Let's see if that story matches
What you told steven brand--
990
00:38:55,867 --> 00:38:58,203
Your friend that kendall
Forwarded mail to.
991
00:38:58,236 --> 00:39:00,372
Look, here it is.
992
00:39:00,406 --> 00:39:03,341
"Dear stevie, good news.
993
00:39:03,375 --> 00:39:04,843
"One of my girlfriends,
994
00:39:04,876 --> 00:39:06,277
"I've mentioned her
To you before,
995
00:39:06,311 --> 00:39:09,981
Butterface." I think
I know that nickname.
996
00:39:10,015 --> 00:39:11,550
Doesn't that refer
To a girl
997
00:39:11,583 --> 00:39:13,852
Who has a great figure
But her face isn't so great?
998
00:39:14,886 --> 00:39:17,789
Maybe you meant
Something else by it.
999
00:39:17,823 --> 00:39:19,591
No? Let's go on.
1000
00:39:19,625 --> 00:39:20,992
"Butterface
Has helped me find
1001
00:39:21,026 --> 00:39:24,295
"A witness to the murders
I was falsely accused of.
1002
00:39:24,329 --> 00:39:25,964
"His name is carl nelson,
1003
00:39:25,997 --> 00:39:28,233
"Of 4503 patterson drive,
1004
00:39:28,266 --> 00:39:30,836
And he's a 16-year-old boy
Who wears glasses."
1005
00:39:30,869 --> 00:39:32,504
Gosh, that sounds
An awful lot like
1006
00:39:32,538 --> 00:39:33,839
You did know who carl was
1007
00:39:33,872 --> 00:39:36,608
Before your lawyers
Mentioned him.
1008
00:39:36,642 --> 00:39:40,078
See, this postmark
Was dated two weeks ago.
1009
00:39:40,111 --> 00:39:43,915
Well, it's just chock-a-block
With surprises,
1010
00:39:43,949 --> 00:39:45,917
This letter, isn't it?
1011
00:39:45,951 --> 00:39:48,053
Well, let's go on.
1012
00:39:48,086 --> 00:39:50,622
"Carl," there's
His name again,
1013
00:39:50,656 --> 00:39:52,791
"Was actually in
The kwikmart
1014
00:39:52,824 --> 00:39:54,392
"When the murders
Took place.
1015
00:39:54,426 --> 00:39:56,061
"And has just finished
Giving a sworn deposition
1016
00:39:56,094 --> 00:39:58,897
"Describing the real killer.
As being a tall, blonde man
1017
00:39:58,930 --> 00:40:01,933
"With a scar from his mouth
To his chin.
1018
00:40:01,967 --> 00:40:04,002
"I know you'll be happy
To have this information.
1019
00:40:04,035 --> 00:40:05,671
"Just goes to show you,
Doesn't it,
1020
00:40:05,704 --> 00:40:07,105
"That things are never over.
1021
00:40:07,138 --> 00:40:09,441
Yours in christ. Gerry."
1022
00:40:11,109 --> 00:40:13,278
Here's what I believe.
1023
00:40:13,311 --> 00:40:15,013
I think you had a lot
Of time in prison
1024
00:40:15,046 --> 00:40:16,515
To plan how you might
Get out
1025
00:40:16,548 --> 00:40:18,049
And that you corresponded
1026
00:40:18,083 --> 00:40:20,085
With a lot of susceptible
Young women
1027
00:40:20,118 --> 00:40:21,152
Who you hoped
Would lie for you.
1028
00:40:21,186 --> 00:40:23,288
Or get a friend to lie.
1029
00:40:23,321 --> 00:40:25,123
And that kendall
Did just that.
1030
00:40:25,156 --> 00:40:26,558
And you know what else
I think...
1031
00:40:26,592 --> 00:40:28,460
Stupid, stupid girl.
1032
00:40:28,494 --> 00:40:30,729
I think the description
That carl gave
1033
00:40:30,762 --> 00:40:32,363
Was probably that
Of steven brand,
1034
00:40:32,397 --> 00:40:34,733
Who I believe drove you
Away from the kwikmart
1035
00:40:34,766 --> 00:40:36,668
After the robberies.
1036
00:40:36,702 --> 00:40:38,203
And once carl gave
That description
1037
00:40:38,236 --> 00:40:40,205
To your defense attorneys,
You thought that steven
1038
00:40:40,238 --> 00:40:42,574
Might be scared
Into killing him.
1039
00:40:42,608 --> 00:40:44,109
And you were right.
1040
00:40:44,142 --> 00:40:46,678
I wonder how steven
Will feel
1041
00:40:46,712 --> 00:40:48,947
When he knows that you gave
A description out?
1042
00:40:48,980 --> 00:40:50,482
But you can't trust
Anyone these days.
1043
00:40:50,516 --> 00:40:52,350
Go to hell.
I want my lawyer.
1044
00:40:52,383 --> 00:40:53,952
And especially,
You couldn't trust carl,
1045
00:40:53,985 --> 00:40:55,253
A 16-year-old boy
1046
00:40:55,286 --> 00:40:57,122
Who might fall to pieces
On the witness stand,
1047
00:40:57,155 --> 00:40:58,456
If examined too closely.
1048
00:40:58,490 --> 00:41:00,391
And if I were to find out
That you had written
1049
00:41:00,425 --> 00:41:02,694
All that out for kendall
So that she could help carl
1050
00:41:02,728 --> 00:41:05,063
Make his testimony
More believable, why,
1051
00:41:05,096 --> 00:41:07,733
That would be as good
As a confession.
1052
00:41:07,766 --> 00:41:09,501
I said, go to hell.
1053
00:41:09,535 --> 00:41:10,769
You first.
1054
00:41:24,650 --> 00:41:26,785
I have the letters.
1055
00:41:26,818 --> 00:41:28,386
I have them.
1056
00:41:28,419 --> 00:41:30,121
Uh...
1057
00:41:30,155 --> 00:41:31,957
I talked carl into
Saying he was there.
1058
00:41:31,990 --> 00:41:34,325
He had a crush on me,
And I...
1059
00:41:36,294 --> 00:41:38,797
Father watson,
I was just trying--
1060
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:42,834
Oh, my god.
1061
00:41:42,868 --> 00:41:46,938
Oh, my god, oh, my god.
I killed him.
1062
00:41:46,972 --> 00:41:50,208
Oh, god. I killed him.
1063
00:41:59,350 --> 00:42:01,086
I had no idea that gerry
1064
00:42:01,119 --> 00:42:02,287
Had asked someone
To lie for him.
1065
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,455
I had no idea. None.
1066
00:42:04,489 --> 00:42:09,795
Unfortunately, father,
You don't answer to me.
1067
00:42:15,233 --> 00:42:17,669
I'm so sorry.
1068
00:42:42,994 --> 00:42:44,663
[knock on door]
1069
00:42:44,696 --> 00:42:46,598
So did you find
Gerry's other letters?
1070
00:42:46,632 --> 00:42:49,534
Yes. Kendall kept them
In her bible
1071
00:42:49,567 --> 00:42:52,137
That she got
For confirmation.
1072
00:42:52,170 --> 00:42:54,072
And this is the letter
That really does it
1073
00:42:54,105 --> 00:42:55,874
For gerald curtis.
1074
00:42:55,907 --> 00:42:57,475
Writes out the entire
Script for carl,
1075
00:42:57,508 --> 00:42:58,810
And it's filled
With stuff
1076
00:42:58,844 --> 00:43:00,578
That only the shooter
Would know about.
1077
00:43:00,612 --> 00:43:02,047
And it's in
His own hand.
1078
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:03,982
All right. You think
That'll convince a judge?
1079
00:43:04,015 --> 00:43:08,086
Yeah. And he signed it
"Yours in christ."
1080
00:43:10,856 --> 00:43:13,959
So I hope taylor's visit
Cleared everything up for you.
1081
00:43:13,992 --> 00:43:16,027
I hope so, too.
1082
00:43:16,061 --> 00:43:18,864
You're not mad at me
About all this, are you?
1083
00:43:18,897 --> 00:43:21,132
No. It's not your fault.
1084
00:43:22,467 --> 00:43:25,070
You doing
Some house cleaning?
1085
00:43:25,103 --> 00:43:27,138
What?
1086
00:43:27,172 --> 00:43:28,640
Yeah--oh.
1087
00:43:28,674 --> 00:43:30,776
Yes...Just a little.
1088
00:43:30,809 --> 00:43:33,845
Ok, all right.
Well, as long as we're good.
1089
00:43:33,879 --> 00:43:36,114
Good work.
1090
00:43:36,147 --> 00:43:38,516
[whistling "Fur elise"]
1091
00:43:38,549 --> 00:43:39,851
Hey! Hey!
1092
00:43:39,885 --> 00:43:42,253
Hey, that tune
You're whistling.
1093
00:43:42,287 --> 00:43:44,322
That's the ring
On my new cell phone.
1094
00:43:44,355 --> 00:43:46,892
Oh, that's what I keep
Forgetting to tell you.
1095
00:43:46,925 --> 00:43:49,594
Your purse.
It's in my office.
1096
00:43:49,627 --> 00:43:51,362
You must have left it there
1097
00:43:51,396 --> 00:43:52,798
Sometime this week
During all the...
1098
00:43:52,831 --> 00:43:54,332
I'll go get it.
1099
00:43:54,365 --> 00:43:55,667
No, that's ok.
1100
00:43:55,701 --> 00:43:57,035
I'll come up, and...
1101
00:43:57,068 --> 00:43:57,836
Ok.
1102
00:43:57,869 --> 00:43:59,871
I have something, uh...
1103
00:43:59,905 --> 00:44:03,374
I do have something
I want to say to you.
1104
00:44:03,408 --> 00:44:04,776
So...
1105
00:44:04,810 --> 00:44:06,577
Will you wait?
1106
00:44:06,611 --> 00:44:08,113
Sure.
Ok.
1107
00:44:08,146 --> 00:44:11,616
But you don't have to
Say anything.
1108
00:44:11,649 --> 00:44:13,451
I mean...
1109
00:44:13,484 --> 00:44:15,220
Is it about us?
1110
00:44:16,587 --> 00:44:18,089
Well, uh...
1111
00:44:18,123 --> 00:44:20,191
'cause we're, you know,
We're good.
1112
00:44:22,193 --> 00:44:25,630
I, uh, I know, brenda.
1113
00:44:25,663 --> 00:44:28,333
I get it.
1114
00:44:28,366 --> 00:44:29,968
We're good.
1115
00:44:31,469 --> 00:44:33,404
So you gonna be long?
1116
00:44:33,438 --> 00:44:35,273
I'll...Just be a minute.
1117
00:44:35,306 --> 00:44:37,042
Ok. All right, great.
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