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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:11,166 --> 00:00:12,767 Her family hasn't heard from her. 2 00:00:12,834 --> 00:00:14,566 Authorities don't have any new leads. 3 00:00:14,567 --> 00:00:15,766 State police say 4 00:00:15,767 --> 00:00:16,966 they're gonna continue searching 5 00:00:16,967 --> 00:00:19,166 as long as necessary for her. 6 00:00:25,133 --> 00:00:28,333 The girl's body was found just a short distance after this growth. 7 00:00:30,166 --> 00:00:32,767 If the police would have listened to me. 8 00:00:32,834 --> 00:00:35,734 None of this would have ever happened. 9 00:00:38,367 --> 00:00:41,166 I hear I'm the only frickin' survivor! 10 00:00:49,467 --> 00:00:53,265 In the wooded heart of Central Oregon 11 00:00:53,266 --> 00:00:57,266 there's a road that winds through the pine-studded mountains, 12 00:00:57,500 --> 00:00:59,033 Highway 20. 13 00:01:00,300 --> 00:01:03,133 Picturesque and striking. 14 00:01:04,367 --> 00:01:06,734 Many find comfort here. 15 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,666 But across three decades 16 00:01:09,667 --> 00:01:11,834 hiding in plain sight 17 00:01:12,667 --> 00:01:13,934 a predator... 18 00:01:14,467 --> 00:01:16,033 hunts this trail. 19 00:01:16,967 --> 00:01:19,766 Some still think of this monster, 20 00:01:19,767 --> 00:01:22,767 dragging away the innocent like prey, 21 00:01:22,834 --> 00:01:24,033 from all that they knew. 22 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,433 But others think of the victims, 23 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,667 who they could have become 24 00:01:29,734 --> 00:01:32,433 if anyone had stopped to listen, 25 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:34,166 to see them. 26 00:01:34,667 --> 00:01:36,366 For only the woods, 27 00:01:36,367 --> 00:01:39,266 their witnessed all the lost women. 28 00:01:44,700 --> 00:01:47,666 I'm a long-time reporter in Oregon, 29 00:01:47,667 --> 00:01:49,566 covering crime. 30 00:01:49,567 --> 00:01:52,367 The editor of The Oregonian came over to my desk one day 31 00:01:52,433 --> 00:01:55,265 and said, "I have a story I wanna talk to you about. 32 00:01:55,266 --> 00:01:56,734 "It's about a serial killer." 33 00:01:58,667 --> 00:02:02,233 There's a cluster of missing girl cases, 34 00:02:03,100 --> 00:02:05,165 you know, unsolved cases, cold cases, 35 00:02:05,166 --> 00:02:06,834 on and around Highway 20, 36 00:02:07,300 --> 00:02:09,766 a coast-to-coast highway. 37 00:02:09,767 --> 00:02:13,166 It starts in Boston and ends in Newport, Oregon. 38 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,066 It was very intriguing. 39 00:02:16,867 --> 00:02:17,999 Who is this guy? 40 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,767 How have we never heard about him? 41 00:02:19,834 --> 00:02:22,033 And who are these women? 42 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,066 I thought, "Well, I'm gonna start 43 00:02:27,133 --> 00:02:29,867 "with the unsolved disappearance 44 00:02:29,934 --> 00:02:32,433 "of this young girl, Rachanda Pickle." 45 00:03:01,166 --> 00:03:04,467 On July 10th, 13-year-old Rachanda Lea Pickle 46 00:03:04,533 --> 00:03:05,600 disappeared from her home 47 00:03:05,667 --> 00:03:07,766 near the State Highway division maintenance complex 48 00:03:07,767 --> 00:03:09,366 just west of Santiam Pass. 49 00:03:09,367 --> 00:03:11,567 She was reported missing on the 11th. 50 00:03:15,266 --> 00:03:17,109 Santiam Junction, I think the best way 51 00:03:17,133 --> 00:03:20,666 to describe it would be put five maybe six houses 52 00:03:20,667 --> 00:03:22,265 with a few people living in 53 00:03:22,266 --> 00:03:25,066 camp trailers out in the middle of nowhere... 54 00:03:26,500 --> 00:03:28,967 and make a community out of it. 55 00:03:30,367 --> 00:03:33,166 If someone wants to look on the map, look at where Highway 20 56 00:03:33,233 --> 00:03:34,766 and where Highway 22 meet, 57 00:03:34,767 --> 00:03:36,734 and that's where the Santiam Junction is. 58 00:03:38,100 --> 00:03:40,766 We're probably about 23, maybe 26, miles 59 00:03:40,767 --> 00:03:43,367 from Sisters, Oregon, which was the nearest town. 60 00:03:45,066 --> 00:03:48,065 Forty-five, to 48 miles from Sweet Home, 61 00:03:48,066 --> 00:03:49,834 where we went to elementary school at. 62 00:03:51,467 --> 00:03:55,466 My sister and I, we were definitely close at a very young age. 63 00:03:55,467 --> 00:03:58,133 We were up there at the Junction, there was no one else. 64 00:03:59,266 --> 00:04:00,834 It was us against the world. 65 00:04:08,467 --> 00:04:10,366 And then, have you seen one of these? 66 00:04:10,367 --> 00:04:12,867 - It's been a long time. - Yeah. 67 00:04:12,934 --> 00:04:16,834 I was in, um, third grade, when I met Rachanda 68 00:04:17,166 --> 00:04:18,533 at school. 69 00:04:20,100 --> 00:04:21,466 I remember that day. 70 00:04:21,467 --> 00:04:23,533 She looked exactly like Punky Brewster. 71 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,166 She did. 72 00:04:26,967 --> 00:04:29,466 Literally the first day 73 00:04:29,467 --> 00:04:31,867 on the playground I've seen her, 74 00:04:32,100 --> 00:04:33,966 we clicked. 75 00:04:33,967 --> 00:04:36,065 Before the word diva, I would express her now 76 00:04:36,066 --> 00:04:39,999 definitely as a diva, as somebody who was into the latest fashion 77 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,634 pop music and stuff. 78 00:04:43,900 --> 00:04:45,065 Hair style never changed. 79 00:04:45,066 --> 00:04:46,999 It was always in a little floof, 80 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:48,367 dangly earrings, 81 00:04:48,433 --> 00:04:50,266 the '90s bangs, um... 82 00:04:50,333 --> 00:04:52,266 the bigger they are, the better they are. 83 00:04:52,967 --> 00:04:54,366 And goofy. She was funny. 84 00:04:54,367 --> 00:04:56,666 I mean she was like, truly, truly funny. 85 00:04:56,667 --> 00:04:59,966 She was just a goofball. 86 00:04:59,967 --> 00:05:03,366 She would make me laugh until I cried. 87 00:05:03,367 --> 00:05:05,866 And she'll do another little thing 88 00:05:05,867 --> 00:05:07,166 and set me off again. 89 00:05:07,667 --> 00:05:09,634 Start laughing my butt off. 90 00:05:10,667 --> 00:05:14,065 She could be friends with anybody at school. 91 00:05:14,066 --> 00:05:17,266 Being so little and just having such that 92 00:05:17,333 --> 00:05:19,233 presence about her, you know... 93 00:05:25,767 --> 00:05:27,333 Excuse me. 94 00:05:29,867 --> 00:05:33,666 On July 10th, I remember getting a call from my mom, you know, 95 00:05:33,667 --> 00:05:35,834 "Hey, has Rachanda gotten ahold of you? 96 00:05:36,567 --> 00:05:38,366 "Well, she's missing." 97 00:05:38,367 --> 00:05:40,567 I'm like, "Well, did you look for the note?" 98 00:05:40,634 --> 00:05:43,666 'Cause we'd always leave notes and stuff, ju... if, you know... around in the case that 99 00:05:43,667 --> 00:05:45,566 Mom or my stepfather, John, came home. 100 00:05:45,567 --> 00:05:46,766 "No, there's no note." 101 00:05:46,767 --> 00:05:48,566 I'm like, "Did you go look for her BB gun? 102 00:05:48,567 --> 00:05:49,966 "Maybe she's out shooting her BB gun." 103 00:05:49,967 --> 00:05:50,967 "No, her BB gun's here." 104 00:05:51,033 --> 00:05:53,266 So, it... it just didn't make sense. 105 00:05:54,166 --> 00:05:56,367 I was trying to rationalize stuff, you know. 106 00:05:56,433 --> 00:06:00,166 I knew that she wouldn't go off in the woods alone by herself 107 00:06:00,233 --> 00:06:03,567 Rachanda found the woods very scary and intimidating. 108 00:06:04,900 --> 00:06:08,634 'Cause the Junction is out in the middle of nowhere. 109 00:06:09,867 --> 00:06:12,065 And then I was like, "Well, did you call the cops?" 110 00:06:12,066 --> 00:06:14,333 "They say we got to wait 24 hours." 111 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:17,667 The morning of July 11th 112 00:06:17,734 --> 00:06:19,834 is when my mom called the law enforcement. 113 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,366 My aunt Linda married Steve Pickle 114 00:07:09,367 --> 00:07:12,066 and she had two kids with him, 115 00:07:12,133 --> 00:07:13,934 Rachanda and Byron. 116 00:07:15,467 --> 00:07:17,165 There's a picture there of my mom 117 00:07:17,166 --> 00:07:18,767 with my dad Steve, with me, 118 00:07:18,834 --> 00:07:20,710 and I'm, you know, I'm looking at them now, and I'm like, 119 00:07:20,734 --> 00:07:22,966 "My gosh, you guys were babies, 120 00:07:22,967 --> 00:07:25,165 "having babies." I mean... 121 00:07:25,166 --> 00:07:28,265 Holey-moley, they were just so young. 122 00:07:28,266 --> 00:07:31,099 My mom had to be either 18 or 19 in the picture 123 00:07:31,100 --> 00:07:33,967 and my dad had to be 20 or 21, maybe. 124 00:07:35,166 --> 00:07:36,766 They definitely did not get along well. 125 00:07:36,767 --> 00:07:38,566 I mean, my parents, both of them 126 00:07:38,567 --> 00:07:40,967 were very vindictive to each other. 127 00:07:41,033 --> 00:07:44,166 As kids, we were definitely used as their little pawns. 128 00:07:45,100 --> 00:07:47,165 And of course, my mom would always remind me 129 00:07:47,166 --> 00:07:50,433 how much I did look like my dad, Steve, so. 130 00:07:51,700 --> 00:07:54,265 They got divorced. 131 00:07:54,266 --> 00:07:59,233 Linda was struggling to make it on one income. 132 00:08:00,266 --> 00:08:01,566 I think I was seven years old, 133 00:08:01,567 --> 00:08:03,934 when my mom and John first got together. 134 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:06,467 John was a mechanic 135 00:08:06,533 --> 00:08:08,467 for the State Highway Department. 136 00:08:08,533 --> 00:08:10,866 We grew up there in the Sweet Home area. 137 00:08:10,867 --> 00:08:13,999 John was my favorite uncle. 138 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,265 John would actually make you feel 139 00:08:17,266 --> 00:08:18,467 special. 140 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:24,265 My 16th birthday, John and I, we went to Arby's, 141 00:08:24,266 --> 00:08:30,934 and I must have had four roast beef and cheddars. 142 00:08:33,100 --> 00:08:36,467 After that, we went to the drive-in 143 00:08:36,867 --> 00:08:38,967 And he gave me $50. 144 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,433 That was really nice. 145 00:08:41,767 --> 00:08:43,467 A fun... fun day. 146 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,866 My mom asked my sister and I 147 00:08:56,867 --> 00:08:59,133 to come talk with her and John. 148 00:09:00,867 --> 00:09:05,566 And they asked what we think about moving to the Junction. 149 00:09:05,567 --> 00:09:08,367 And at that point, I was like, "This is getting serious." 150 00:09:10,867 --> 00:09:14,033 Rachanda was six, 151 00:09:14,867 --> 00:09:17,834 I think, when Linda married John. 152 00:09:19,100 --> 00:09:22,999 Linda ended up quitting her second job 153 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,333 'cause John was so well off. 154 00:09:26,266 --> 00:09:28,266 From where we were at to where he was at, 155 00:09:28,333 --> 00:09:31,066 I mean, it was believed some balance financially. 156 00:09:31,133 --> 00:09:32,967 I remember the first time that he pulled $5 157 00:09:33,033 --> 00:09:34,209 out of his wallet and handed us, 158 00:09:34,233 --> 00:09:35,265 I was like... That was the most cash 159 00:09:35,266 --> 00:09:37,634 I've ever had in my hands at that point in time. 160 00:09:38,767 --> 00:09:40,166 I felt like, I mean... 161 00:09:40,233 --> 00:09:42,166 That might as well have been a Benjamin. 162 00:09:43,066 --> 00:09:44,566 Some of the people in the family 163 00:09:44,567 --> 00:09:47,466 couldn't even read or write well. 164 00:09:47,467 --> 00:09:49,967 And then you have this guy who graduated high school 165 00:09:50,033 --> 00:09:52,666 He had a great career, a previous military guy. 166 00:09:52,667 --> 00:09:54,066 This guy was my dad. 167 00:09:54,900 --> 00:09:56,966 Taught me how to hunt. Taught me how to fish. 168 00:09:56,967 --> 00:09:59,265 Actually spent time with me 169 00:09:59,266 --> 00:10:02,466 Definitely heavy-handed, but he was a good dad. 170 00:10:02,467 --> 00:10:04,533 You know, my dad, Steve, wasn't around. 171 00:10:06,266 --> 00:10:07,467 I knew who he was, 172 00:10:07,533 --> 00:10:10,166 but really didn't get to know who he was. 173 00:10:13,767 --> 00:10:16,367 It was 1990, during the spring time. 174 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,066 I'm 14, Rachanda is 13. 175 00:10:20,133 --> 00:10:23,166 I can't remember if I came up with it or it was Rachanda's idea, , 176 00:10:23,233 --> 00:10:25,966 we wanted to get know our biological father. 177 00:10:25,967 --> 00:10:28,367 We called up, my grandmother 178 00:10:28,433 --> 00:10:29,766 on the phone, with the pay phone, 179 00:10:29,767 --> 00:10:30,866 put the quarter in and called her and said, 180 00:10:30,867 --> 00:10:34,367 "Hey, I wanted to go spend the summer with my dad. 181 00:10:34,433 --> 00:10:36,673 "Do you have his phone number, so I can give him a call?" 182 00:10:38,100 --> 00:10:40,467 My mom was like, "Absolutely not. 183 00:10:40,533 --> 00:10:43,867 "Why would you even wanna go see that guy?" 184 00:10:43,934 --> 00:10:45,209 I really wanted to know who he was 185 00:10:45,233 --> 00:10:46,533 so I could form my own opinion. 186 00:10:48,166 --> 00:10:50,866 My dad came and picked us up from the Junction. 187 00:10:50,867 --> 00:10:54,165 We had the windows open, you know, standing by and stuff. 188 00:10:54,166 --> 00:10:55,766 And my stepfather, John, came up. 189 00:10:55,767 --> 00:10:57,065 Looked at me, put his finger right at me. 190 00:10:57,066 --> 00:10:58,867 He's like, "You remember what I told you." 191 00:11:00,166 --> 00:11:01,999 I was like, "Yeah, I remember what you told me." 192 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:03,999 Never to leave my sister Rachanda alone 193 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,233 with our biological father, Steve Pickle. 194 00:11:08,367 --> 00:11:11,567 Members of my family kept their distance 195 00:11:11,634 --> 00:11:15,066 at an arm's length from Steven. 196 00:11:16,667 --> 00:11:19,433 You give Steve an inch, he'll take a mile. 197 00:11:20,166 --> 00:11:23,867 And that's saying it loosely. 198 00:11:26,567 --> 00:11:28,367 We drove to Medford. 199 00:11:28,433 --> 00:11:30,767 Big change from Santiam Junction. 200 00:11:30,834 --> 00:11:34,165 Steve was living in a manufactured home park. 201 00:11:34,166 --> 00:11:36,265 But the awesome thing about it was it had the tennis court, 202 00:11:36,266 --> 00:11:38,966 it had the basketball court, it had the swimming pool. 203 00:11:38,967 --> 00:11:42,366 Had tons of kids to play with and stuff that were our own age. 204 00:11:42,367 --> 00:11:44,133 We ended up having a blast. 205 00:11:45,300 --> 00:11:48,666 There was a big field with that tall grass and stuff. 206 00:11:48,667 --> 00:11:52,367 So we were gonna go play hide and seek with a bunch of other boys and girls. 207 00:11:52,433 --> 00:11:55,533 But my dad thought it was a ruse, you know, to go have sex. 208 00:11:56,367 --> 00:11:59,466 That's taking a big jump, man. 209 00:11:59,467 --> 00:12:03,165 Looking back, I think my dad had some mental illness problems. 210 00:12:03,166 --> 00:12:05,934 Everything was sexual with my dad. Everything was sexual. 211 00:12:06,567 --> 00:12:08,165 That was not even a thought to me. 212 00:12:08,166 --> 00:12:09,866 Having sex at that point, I just... 213 00:12:09,867 --> 00:12:11,166 You know, they were just kids. 214 00:12:12,467 --> 00:12:14,466 Then he started screaming at Rachanda, 215 00:12:14,467 --> 00:12:15,966 which made her cry. 216 00:12:15,967 --> 00:12:19,634 I mean, you got your biological father basically calling you a whore. 217 00:12:20,967 --> 00:12:23,099 And she was like, "I wanna go home." 218 00:12:23,100 --> 00:12:24,967 She never wanted to see Steve Pickle again. 219 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,366 My sister went back. 220 00:12:29,367 --> 00:12:30,767 And I stayed there. 221 00:12:30,834 --> 00:12:32,166 In Medford, 222 00:12:32,233 --> 00:12:34,767 with my dad, Steve. 223 00:12:34,834 --> 00:12:36,866 'Cause I figured it was just only about a week or two 224 00:12:36,867 --> 00:12:39,766 and then we were gonna see each other again. 225 00:12:39,767 --> 00:12:42,309 I wanted to give her a hug but she was already in the back of the truck 226 00:12:42,333 --> 00:12:44,634 and I didn't wanna call her back out of there. 227 00:12:47,967 --> 00:12:53,567 Rachanda came back because her dad was asking her inappropriate innuendos. 228 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,166 And I said, "Like what?" 229 00:12:56,233 --> 00:12:58,166 And she said, "I don't wanna talk about it." 230 00:13:01,667 --> 00:13:04,867 My aunt married a pedophile. 231 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:07,467 She didn't know. 232 00:13:09,100 --> 00:13:13,165 I never said anything about the sexual assault 233 00:13:13,166 --> 00:13:14,467 from... 234 00:13:15,467 --> 00:13:17,367 Steve Pickle. 235 00:13:18,100 --> 00:13:20,667 But it happened 236 00:13:21,367 --> 00:13:22,567 numerous times. 237 00:13:27,066 --> 00:13:29,233 I didn't say anything because... 238 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,734 who would believe a little girl? 239 00:13:38,066 --> 00:13:41,466 Well, that next morning, Linda came down 240 00:13:41,467 --> 00:13:43,066 to pick up Rachanda. 241 00:13:44,367 --> 00:13:48,233 And she took Rachanda up to the Santiam junction. 242 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,065 I waved at her. 243 00:13:50,066 --> 00:13:52,634 And I told her, "I will see you next weekend." 244 00:14:00,767 --> 00:14:02,867 We were in a foster home. 245 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,467 And we were summoned into the house. 246 00:14:07,533 --> 00:14:11,367 And detectives were asking if we'd heard from Rachanda. 247 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,866 Your friend Rachanda's gone missing. 248 00:14:14,867 --> 00:14:16,999 I'm like, "What?" 249 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,666 Like, it just... It was like a kick in the stomach. 250 00:14:19,667 --> 00:14:21,867 I'm like, "Missing? What do you mean missing?" 251 00:14:22,867 --> 00:14:25,066 "Do you know where she is?" 252 00:14:25,133 --> 00:14:26,766 "Have you guys had any contact with her?" 253 00:14:26,767 --> 00:14:28,566 We're like, "No." 254 00:14:28,567 --> 00:14:30,099 They thought we might have something to do with it 255 00:14:30,100 --> 00:14:32,366 because we ran away so much. 256 00:14:32,367 --> 00:14:34,367 Maybe that she'd found her way to us. 257 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:36,666 "Do you think she could have run away?" 258 00:14:36,667 --> 00:14:38,433 "No, she's not gonna run away." 259 00:14:40,166 --> 00:14:41,467 Where was she gonna go? 260 00:14:43,066 --> 00:14:44,934 She lived in the middle of a mountain. 261 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,065 There's nowhere to go. 262 00:14:49,066 --> 00:14:51,934 We knew something must have happened to her. 263 00:15:02,567 --> 00:15:03,867 I get quiet 264 00:15:04,867 --> 00:15:09,066 until, you know, I cross over the mountain limits. 265 00:15:09,133 --> 00:15:12,834 It's just a dark place along Highway 20. 266 00:15:15,166 --> 00:15:18,466 Rachanda has been missing for 24 hours. 267 00:15:18,467 --> 00:15:21,666 Her disappearance spurs people to action. 268 00:15:21,667 --> 00:15:25,099 They just hope it isn't too late. 269 00:15:25,100 --> 00:15:26,866 The day she goes missing, 270 00:15:26,867 --> 00:15:29,567 Rachanda had been at home 271 00:15:29,634 --> 00:15:33,566 with her mom and stepdad, John Ackroyd. 272 00:15:33,567 --> 00:15:36,967 Linda and John had left to go work. 273 00:15:37,767 --> 00:15:40,466 Byron was not home at the time. 274 00:15:40,467 --> 00:15:42,667 Rachanda is told by her mother 275 00:15:42,734 --> 00:15:45,099 "Please, you know, empty the dishwasher, 276 00:15:45,100 --> 00:15:48,033 "vacuum, and take out the frozen hot dogs for dinner." 277 00:15:49,367 --> 00:15:51,166 John picked up Linda. 278 00:15:51,667 --> 00:15:52,967 And they came back home. 279 00:15:53,033 --> 00:15:55,634 And Rachanda was not home. 280 00:15:57,066 --> 00:16:01,065 They started getting a little bit concerned about 10:00, that night. 281 00:16:01,066 --> 00:16:05,266 They believed that they had to wait 24 hours to report her missing, 282 00:16:05,333 --> 00:16:08,233 so they waited until the next day to call. 283 00:16:10,467 --> 00:16:11,866 You're just going through 284 00:16:11,867 --> 00:16:16,867 all those basic who, what, where, when, why, how questions. 285 00:16:16,934 --> 00:16:18,866 "Did she have any friends in the area?" 286 00:16:18,867 --> 00:16:21,065 "Was she unhappy?" 287 00:16:21,066 --> 00:16:23,666 You wanna kinda check out 288 00:16:23,667 --> 00:16:26,166 what the general family dynamic is. 289 00:16:29,867 --> 00:16:32,866 She's a young girl. I'm a dad of four daughters. 290 00:16:32,867 --> 00:16:35,734 When I looked at the pictures of her bedroom, 291 00:16:36,467 --> 00:16:38,867 nothing was missing. 292 00:16:38,934 --> 00:16:43,266 Her brush, all of her, you know, hygiene products, 293 00:16:43,333 --> 00:16:44,999 were still in the room. 294 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,265 If a 13-year-old's gonna run away from home, 295 00:16:47,266 --> 00:16:48,967 she's gonna take her stuff with her. 296 00:16:52,467 --> 00:16:54,165 Her mom, Linda, was also convinced 297 00:16:54,166 --> 00:16:57,466 she didn't run away from her home in Santiam Junction. 298 00:16:57,467 --> 00:17:00,667 Rachanda is a very responsible little girl. 299 00:17:00,734 --> 00:17:03,566 She wouldn't go wandering out by herself. 300 00:17:03,567 --> 00:17:07,634 Usually, if she goes off it's with her brother, Byron. 301 00:17:10,767 --> 00:17:13,666 Byron turns to his father, Steven Pickle, 302 00:17:13,667 --> 00:17:15,265 and says, "I gotta go back there. 303 00:17:15,266 --> 00:17:17,065 "You know, we gotta go look for her." 304 00:17:17,066 --> 00:17:21,667 And the father is like, "No, we're gonna see how this plays out." 305 00:17:21,734 --> 00:17:26,366 And, you know, Byron, all of 14, 306 00:17:26,367 --> 00:17:28,867 is like, "No, I'm not gonna do that." 307 00:17:28,934 --> 00:17:30,734 You know, "Something is wrong." 308 00:17:31,767 --> 00:17:33,966 The search area covers 50 square miles 309 00:17:33,967 --> 00:17:36,999 of rugged, wooded country near the Hoodoo Ski Area. 310 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,466 This morning, search and rescue teams 311 00:17:38,467 --> 00:17:40,566 from seven different counties were here, 312 00:17:40,567 --> 00:17:42,467 to find the teenager. 313 00:17:42,533 --> 00:17:46,666 Everybody was convening at the shop office. 314 00:17:46,667 --> 00:17:50,967 And some were all like, "Well, I mean, where should we go look? 315 00:17:51,033 --> 00:17:53,567 "We should start searching." 316 00:17:53,634 --> 00:17:57,967 There is umpteen million people searching 317 00:17:58,033 --> 00:18:01,466 John was the head of the search team. 318 00:18:01,467 --> 00:18:06,066 He was telling all the searchers where to go. 319 00:18:06,133 --> 00:18:09,165 If anybody knows this area, Ackroyd knows this area. 320 00:18:09,166 --> 00:18:10,734 Stand forward! 321 00:18:14,166 --> 00:18:16,467 John was the greatest resource that we had. 322 00:18:16,533 --> 00:18:18,066 This was in his backyard. 323 00:18:18,133 --> 00:18:20,667 John knew those woods very well. 324 00:18:21,700 --> 00:18:25,967 Probably one of the most extensive searches 325 00:18:26,033 --> 00:18:28,666 in Linn County history. 326 00:18:28,667 --> 00:18:30,766 We're gonna go up to the end of the road, 327 00:18:30,767 --> 00:18:32,999 Linn County is gonna take one side, we're gonna take the other. 328 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:34,866 About 10-15 feet apart. 329 00:18:34,867 --> 00:18:36,166 Then we'll come back down here. 330 00:18:38,367 --> 00:18:40,966 There was multiple agencies. 331 00:18:40,967 --> 00:18:43,934 Multiple man hours searching for her. 332 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:45,634 Everywhere. 333 00:18:50,166 --> 00:18:53,767 My mom was convinced that somebody kidnapped Rachanda. 334 00:18:53,834 --> 00:18:56,099 Somebody parked on the highway and came down, 335 00:18:56,100 --> 00:18:59,466 see Rachanda, chance of opportunity, snagged her. 336 00:18:59,467 --> 00:19:01,934 And that was the only thing that did make sense. 337 00:19:05,266 --> 00:19:07,767 People were accusing others 338 00:19:07,834 --> 00:19:09,734 over the disappearance of Rachanda. 339 00:19:10,867 --> 00:19:14,166 Yeah, if you're out there, Rachanda, at least call your mother. 340 00:19:14,233 --> 00:19:15,766 Let 'em know you're alive. 341 00:19:15,767 --> 00:19:18,233 We love you and miss you very much. 342 00:19:19,300 --> 00:19:21,867 The family situation wasn't good. 343 00:19:21,934 --> 00:19:27,967 It was a very dysfunctional situation. 344 00:19:49,100 --> 00:19:50,466 So, we go talk to John 345 00:19:50,467 --> 00:19:51,966 and he's emotionally distraught. 346 00:19:51,967 --> 00:19:53,166 I see tears up in his eyes. 347 00:19:53,233 --> 00:19:54,309 And the first thing that comes out of his mouth is, 348 00:19:54,333 --> 00:19:56,266 "I'mma kill the son of a bitch who did this." 349 00:20:00,367 --> 00:20:01,967 As they search for Rachanda, 350 00:20:02,467 --> 00:20:04,233 Hope turns to resignation. 351 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:06,667 What they don't know is, 352 00:20:06,734 --> 00:20:10,066 that the rot is more than a decade old. 353 00:20:10,133 --> 00:20:13,666 Just a few miles away, in Camp Sherman, 354 00:20:13,667 --> 00:20:15,934 the monster has taken another. 355 00:20:31,100 --> 00:20:32,566 It was a summer's day. 356 00:20:32,567 --> 00:20:34,533 And I was down here, working at the store. 357 00:20:36,100 --> 00:20:37,666 The news was on. 358 00:20:37,667 --> 00:20:39,866 She's been missing for a week now. 359 00:20:39,867 --> 00:20:41,009 Her family hasn't heard from her, 360 00:20:41,033 --> 00:20:43,099 authorities don't have any new leads. 361 00:20:43,100 --> 00:20:44,866 So, searchers are resigned to the fact 362 00:20:44,867 --> 00:20:48,567 that they aren't going to find any good news here. 363 00:20:48,634 --> 00:20:50,065 I wasn't really paying attention. 364 00:20:50,066 --> 00:20:52,065 And then, on the news on TV, 365 00:20:52,066 --> 00:20:53,466 I hear this voice saying that, 366 00:20:53,467 --> 00:20:55,066 "I was the last one to see her alive." 367 00:20:55,133 --> 00:20:57,867 Same tone, same inflection, same everything. 368 00:20:57,934 --> 00:20:59,634 And I thought, "Holy smoke. 369 00:21:00,100 --> 00:21:02,367 "I know that voice." 370 00:21:02,433 --> 00:21:04,867 And it's just like Christmas Eve of '78. 371 00:21:04,934 --> 00:21:07,934 And I hollered at Chrissy, I said, "That son-of-a-bitch did it again." 372 00:21:14,166 --> 00:21:18,066 She went for a jog. Kaye Turner never returned. 373 00:21:28,266 --> 00:21:30,367 When I said, you know, to Chrissy, 374 00:21:30,433 --> 00:21:32,166 "The son-of-a-bitch did it again," 375 00:21:32,233 --> 00:21:33,934 I was angry. 376 00:21:36,567 --> 00:21:39,265 We knew the guy that did it 377 00:21:39,266 --> 00:21:41,733 because everybody knew about the murder, 378 00:21:41,734 --> 00:21:43,433 back in '78. 379 00:21:44,166 --> 00:21:46,100 Because he got away with it. 380 00:21:46,667 --> 00:21:47,900 So... 381 00:22:01,467 --> 00:22:04,367 Camp Sherman is a vacation-type resort community, 382 00:22:04,967 --> 00:22:06,734 along Highway 20. 383 00:22:07,567 --> 00:22:08,800 We came in '78. 384 00:22:10,500 --> 00:22:12,966 Such an idyllic spot. 385 00:22:12,967 --> 00:22:14,834 I mean, it's almost rainbows and unicorns. 386 00:22:14,900 --> 00:22:16,900 I mean, it's that perfect a place. 387 00:22:22,166 --> 00:22:23,834 The type that there's just one store. 388 00:22:23,900 --> 00:22:26,467 Back then, we were the pulse if you need to know what's going on. 389 00:22:26,533 --> 00:22:29,667 And when people were lonely, 390 00:22:29,734 --> 00:22:32,065 or had cabin fever, 391 00:22:32,066 --> 00:22:33,165 they'd head to the store. 392 00:22:33,166 --> 00:22:34,467 So, we see everybody. 393 00:22:35,967 --> 00:22:37,834 So, the penny candy's always been here. 394 00:22:37,900 --> 00:22:40,165 The folks that had the store before us had penny candy, 395 00:22:40,166 --> 00:22:41,734 we have penny candy. 396 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,966 Now these are charge accounts. 397 00:22:43,967 --> 00:22:46,165 Most all of these are summer home people. 398 00:22:46,166 --> 00:22:47,933 But there are locals, too. 399 00:22:47,934 --> 00:22:50,733 And when they'll come for a weekend, or a week, 400 00:22:50,734 --> 00:22:53,734 rather than pay each time, we run a tab. 401 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,900 Who else does charge accounts anymore? 402 00:22:56,500 --> 00:22:59,065 The store was a gathering point. 403 00:22:59,066 --> 00:23:01,466 It's just a perfect place to grow up, 404 00:23:01,467 --> 00:23:04,366 perfect place to raise your family. 405 00:23:04,367 --> 00:23:07,367 You know, and up until the incident, super safe. 406 00:23:07,433 --> 00:23:09,033 You know, so... 407 00:23:11,867 --> 00:23:14,733 Christmas Eve morning, 1978. 408 00:23:14,734 --> 00:23:17,166 35-year-old Kaye turner of Eugene 409 00:23:17,233 --> 00:23:20,934 was vacationing in this cabin at Camp Sherman, Oregon. 410 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,666 She went for a jog on this road. 411 00:23:23,667 --> 00:23:25,533 Kaye Turner never returned. 412 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:35,566 Christmas Eve started out foggy and cold. 413 00:23:35,567 --> 00:23:37,533 And then the sun came out and it was super warm. 414 00:23:39,867 --> 00:23:41,866 So, I got up, we opened the store. 415 00:23:41,867 --> 00:23:45,667 I just walked through and Chrissy's talking to this guy. 416 00:23:45,734 --> 00:23:48,165 And I came in and she said, "Did you find her yet?" 417 00:23:48,166 --> 00:23:49,366 And he said, "No." 418 00:23:49,367 --> 00:23:50,976 And I said... The way he said "no", I said... 419 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,666 I asked him, "So, what kind of dog did you lose?" 420 00:23:53,667 --> 00:23:55,265 And he said, " no, I lost my wife." 421 00:23:55,266 --> 00:23:56,266 I said... 422 00:23:56,467 --> 00:23:57,467 "Whoa!" 423 00:23:58,400 --> 00:23:59,367 "When'd you last see her?" 424 00:23:59,368 --> 00:24:01,266 He said, " between 8:00 and 8:30." 425 00:24:01,333 --> 00:24:02,866 I said, "My God." 426 00:24:02,867 --> 00:24:05,032 He was from Eugene, he was new to the area. 427 00:24:05,033 --> 00:24:07,266 Didn't really know anybody here. 428 00:24:07,333 --> 00:24:10,265 We didn't have a search and rescue team in Camp Sherman, at all. 429 00:24:10,266 --> 00:24:12,333 We just never had to have one. 430 00:24:13,266 --> 00:24:15,026 So, I said, "Well, let me just take a drive." 431 00:24:15,300 --> 00:24:16,934 I just hopped in the Reagan, 432 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,000 made a quick loop, 433 00:24:18,033 --> 00:24:20,634 expecting to find a gal with an injured ankle. 434 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,466 I never once suspected foul play. 435 00:24:24,467 --> 00:24:27,366 It never even entered my mind. 436 00:24:27,367 --> 00:24:30,000 This is Camp Sherman. Nobody dies in Camp Sherman. 437 00:24:32,467 --> 00:24:35,566 Her husband, Noel, called. 438 00:24:35,567 --> 00:24:38,367 And then... And it was a short conversation. 439 00:24:38,433 --> 00:24:40,999 He wanted to know 440 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,966 if Kaye would be likely, when we were running together, 441 00:24:44,967 --> 00:24:47,834 to head off into the trees. 442 00:24:47,900 --> 00:24:49,166 "She always stayed on the road. 443 00:24:49,233 --> 00:24:51,066 "She never went bounding off 444 00:24:51,934 --> 00:24:53,533 "into the trees. 445 00:24:55,467 --> 00:24:58,999 "If she went out to run and she hasn't come back, 446 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,166 "somebody's grabbed her." 447 00:25:01,233 --> 00:25:04,800 I'm sure those were almost my exact words. 448 00:25:05,367 --> 00:25:07,165 I think, by the time we hung up, 449 00:25:07,166 --> 00:25:09,066 I was already crying. 450 00:25:16,967 --> 00:25:18,333 I called Jefferson County. 451 00:25:19,100 --> 00:25:21,165 Just told 'em we had a missing jogger. 452 00:25:21,166 --> 00:25:22,933 And, you know, "What should we do?" 453 00:25:22,934 --> 00:25:25,266 'Cause we never had that happen before. 454 00:25:25,333 --> 00:25:28,165 And they said, "Well, get some people together, we'll be right over." 455 00:25:28,166 --> 00:25:29,466 "Okay." 456 00:25:29,467 --> 00:25:31,367 To kinda show what community it is, 457 00:25:31,433 --> 00:25:33,165 I made three calls or four calls, 458 00:25:33,166 --> 00:25:35,099 and yet 15 or 20 four-wheel drives 459 00:25:35,100 --> 00:25:36,900 were in my parking lot in 20 minutes. 460 00:25:37,967 --> 00:25:39,166 Christmas Eve. 461 00:25:39,233 --> 00:25:41,367 Some people left diner to come right over. 462 00:25:43,467 --> 00:25:47,667 There was no law enforcement in Camp Sherman, at the time. 463 00:25:47,734 --> 00:25:51,433 Because the statistics, the crimes, 464 00:25:51,767 --> 00:25:53,433 didn't add up 465 00:25:54,500 --> 00:25:57,367 We wasted an hour or so of daylight. 466 00:25:57,433 --> 00:25:59,367 But we were told to wait. 467 00:25:59,433 --> 00:26:02,566 And so they got here and they said, "Okay, so what do you want us to do? 468 00:26:02,567 --> 00:26:04,734 "We'll just fan out and drive the roads." 469 00:26:05,467 --> 00:26:06,766 We could have done that in daylight. 470 00:26:06,767 --> 00:26:08,567 Kaye! 471 00:26:11,266 --> 00:26:14,834 We went until about... I think about 1:00 or 2:00 in the morning. 472 00:26:16,567 --> 00:26:19,533 So, it was... Yeah, it was a difficult... Difficult time. 473 00:26:22,767 --> 00:26:28,433 The next day, my husband and I went up and participated in the search. 474 00:26:31,033 --> 00:26:33,165 I remember calling out her name. 475 00:26:33,166 --> 00:26:37,834 Now wanting to find what we were looking for. 476 00:26:39,367 --> 00:26:41,666 You didn't wanna find a body. 477 00:26:41,667 --> 00:26:43,966 But at the same time, you wanted to. 478 00:26:43,967 --> 00:26:45,467 So, it was just... 479 00:26:46,500 --> 00:26:47,900 push-pull. 480 00:26:48,834 --> 00:26:50,266 It was so surreal. 481 00:26:52,266 --> 00:26:54,999 The police set up a command center 482 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,934 in the restaurant across the river. 483 00:26:58,467 --> 00:27:00,566 At that time, I remember thinking 484 00:27:00,567 --> 00:27:02,966 everything was so disorganized. 485 00:27:02,967 --> 00:27:05,834 People were just taking off in the woods. 486 00:27:06,467 --> 00:27:09,834 And every woods looks the same. 487 00:27:10,667 --> 00:27:12,433 It was just chaos. 488 00:27:13,834 --> 00:27:16,166 I stayed away from the command center, completely. 489 00:27:16,233 --> 00:27:17,833 Because it was chaos. 490 00:27:17,834 --> 00:27:20,165 And it wasn't even organized chaos. It was just a mess. 491 00:27:20,166 --> 00:27:21,100 "Well, let's do this." 492 00:27:21,100 --> 00:27:22,100 "Well, I know she must be there." 493 00:27:22,101 --> 00:27:23,667 It was like this, you know. 494 00:27:23,734 --> 00:27:24,800 It was nuts. 495 00:27:29,100 --> 00:27:33,667 Well, the initial thinking of the initial deputies 496 00:27:33,734 --> 00:27:35,265 who were on that scene, 497 00:27:35,266 --> 00:27:39,166 is that Noel, Kaye Turner's husband, 498 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,834 did her in and just dumped her in the woods. 499 00:27:45,033 --> 00:27:46,466 As far as they were concerned, 500 00:27:46,467 --> 00:27:50,667 the husband was the last person to see her, 501 00:27:50,734 --> 00:27:53,900 there were signs that the marriage was on the rocks. 502 00:27:55,033 --> 00:28:00,065 And they spent a lot of time not searching for her 503 00:28:00,066 --> 00:28:01,833 but questioning him, 504 00:28:01,834 --> 00:28:04,265 expecting he would crack. 505 00:28:04,266 --> 00:28:08,567 They thought that he's come out to some small community 506 00:28:09,300 --> 00:28:11,133 to do his dirty work. 507 00:28:12,100 --> 00:28:15,667 Figuring that nobody'd catch him that way. 508 00:28:23,667 --> 00:28:26,667 I met Kaye in college. 509 00:28:28,500 --> 00:28:32,099 We both finished school in 1966. 510 00:28:32,100 --> 00:28:36,233 And decided we would... we'd get married. 511 00:28:37,834 --> 00:28:40,667 We moved to, Eugene. 512 00:28:41,967 --> 00:28:44,466 Kaye grew as a person 513 00:28:44,467 --> 00:28:48,100 as she transitioned from having taught high school 514 00:28:48,867 --> 00:28:53,165 into becoming an interim director 515 00:28:53,166 --> 00:28:58,367 of the Planned Parenthood facility in Eugene. 516 00:28:58,433 --> 00:29:03,099 We met because she was the director of Planned Parenthood. 517 00:29:03,100 --> 00:29:06,366 And I was in charge of family planning for the county. 518 00:29:06,367 --> 00:29:09,233 So we worked closely together. 519 00:29:11,367 --> 00:29:14,567 Everybody knew who Kaye Turner was, it seemed like. 520 00:29:15,467 --> 00:29:17,233 You know, she was independent. 521 00:29:17,867 --> 00:29:20,367 She was a feminist. 522 00:29:20,433 --> 00:29:22,466 As though she cared... 523 00:29:22,467 --> 00:29:25,800 But she didn't act like she cared what other people thought. 524 00:29:28,734 --> 00:29:32,065 She had kind of a Princess Diana quality about her. 525 00:29:32,066 --> 00:29:34,165 She was like a butterfly 526 00:29:34,166 --> 00:29:35,833 when she kind of... 527 00:29:35,834 --> 00:29:37,266 I'm coming up with all these things. 528 00:29:37,333 --> 00:29:39,266 I never thought of her that way, but... 529 00:29:40,367 --> 00:29:43,133 people really were attracted to her. 530 00:29:46,166 --> 00:29:51,367 Eugene was really the center of this new movement around running. 531 00:29:51,433 --> 00:29:53,834 And she was infected by that. 532 00:29:55,667 --> 00:29:58,032 It was almost like a lifestyle to her. 533 00:29:58,033 --> 00:30:01,466 She was running in... in marathons, in races, and... 534 00:30:01,467 --> 00:30:04,265 was really a serious runner. 535 00:30:04,266 --> 00:30:08,467 Nike had just come out with its first running show for women. 536 00:30:08,533 --> 00:30:10,734 And she had a pair. 537 00:30:12,166 --> 00:30:15,999 Kaye and I ran, the two of us, a lot. 538 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,099 I didn't think I could ever run on my own, without stopping. 539 00:30:20,100 --> 00:30:21,265 And she did. 540 00:30:21,266 --> 00:30:24,566 So, i decided, "Well, if she can do it, I can do it." 541 00:30:24,567 --> 00:30:27,333 She was my mentor, I guess. 542 00:30:28,500 --> 00:30:33,533 We were real busy in our respective work environments. 543 00:30:34,033 --> 00:30:35,667 There were... 544 00:30:35,734 --> 00:30:40,466 There were areas where we should have communicated better 545 00:30:40,467 --> 00:30:43,866 with one another instead of maybe assuming 546 00:30:43,867 --> 00:30:46,834 that we were on the same page. 547 00:30:48,567 --> 00:30:52,233 Investigators find, in her office, her calendar. 548 00:30:53,934 --> 00:30:59,934 Which showed that Kaye had relationships outside of her marriage. 549 00:31:00,066 --> 00:31:04,000 It was a surprise to Noel when investigators told him. 550 00:31:04,767 --> 00:31:07,265 He was aware that she was unhappy. 551 00:31:07,266 --> 00:31:11,032 But unaware that she was, um... 552 00:31:11,033 --> 00:31:14,233 You know, that she was seeing men outside of their... of their marriage. 553 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,233 And they asked me if I'd take a polygraph test. 554 00:31:21,934 --> 00:31:25,566 I didn't have any qualms about doing it. 555 00:31:25,567 --> 00:31:31,934 But it was not a... a comfortable experience. 556 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,265 I mean, I guess they have to do that 557 00:31:36,266 --> 00:31:38,467 'cause it's always the husband and the wife 558 00:31:38,533 --> 00:31:40,834 or the... 559 00:31:41,467 --> 00:31:44,567 He's so unlike... 560 00:31:44,634 --> 00:31:47,466 I don't know what the typical killer is, but... 561 00:31:47,467 --> 00:31:51,834 You know, Noel is one of the gentlest men I've ever known. 562 00:31:53,367 --> 00:31:54,834 He passed. 563 00:31:54,900 --> 00:31:58,266 There was nothing that linked him to his wife's disappearance. 564 00:31:58,333 --> 00:32:02,533 And the case just kind of didn't really... Didn't really go anywhere. 565 00:32:04,967 --> 00:32:07,766 Not only had no suspect emerged, 566 00:32:07,767 --> 00:32:11,366 they still had no idea what had happened to Kaye. 567 00:32:11,367 --> 00:32:13,333 It was like she just vanished. 568 00:32:18,834 --> 00:32:22,533 Sometime in the week after Christmas, 569 00:32:23,867 --> 00:32:25,999 it was a feeling of hopelessness 570 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:31,132 for everybody that was participating in it to... 571 00:32:31,133 --> 00:32:33,200 to come to that conclusion. 572 00:32:35,166 --> 00:32:36,467 That they'd... 573 00:32:37,667 --> 00:32:40,567 gone over that area as much as they... 574 00:32:41,266 --> 00:32:44,367 thought they could have. Um... 575 00:32:45,767 --> 00:32:49,367 When you've... You know, you gotta... 576 00:32:50,033 --> 00:32:51,467 You gotta stop 577 00:32:52,266 --> 00:32:55,100 stop doing this at some point. 578 00:32:55,467 --> 00:32:56,634 And... 579 00:32:59,667 --> 00:33:01,233 And so... 580 00:33:02,133 --> 00:33:05,934 And I... I don't remember who said... talked to me. 581 00:33:15,133 --> 00:33:16,567 And they said... 582 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,734 "Until you leave... 583 00:33:28,867 --> 00:33:31,100 "none of these people are gonna leave." 584 00:33:35,467 --> 00:33:38,333 So, then... 585 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,433 Then shortly after that, 586 00:33:42,367 --> 00:33:44,634 I said, "Well, I gotta go home." 587 00:33:56,033 --> 00:33:57,667 Months pass. 588 00:33:58,166 --> 00:33:59,833 There are no suspects. 589 00:33:59,834 --> 00:34:02,366 You got the sense from the friends 590 00:34:02,367 --> 00:34:04,065 that there was this kind of frustration 591 00:34:04,066 --> 00:34:08,366 about the scope and scale of the search. 592 00:34:08,367 --> 00:34:10,999 This area was searched once before, wasn't it? 593 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,233 Parts of it was. 594 00:34:13,266 --> 00:34:16,567 And other parts weren't searched hard enough. 595 00:34:16,634 --> 00:34:19,834 And we wanna see... We wanna look at it another time. 596 00:34:21,567 --> 00:34:24,165 We were getting frustrated 'cause we know something must have happened. 597 00:34:24,166 --> 00:34:25,367 So, we thought about a reward 598 00:34:25,433 --> 00:34:27,367 to kinda jumpstart the situation. 599 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,833 Kaye's friends put up a $1,000 reward. 600 00:34:32,834 --> 00:34:36,834 Thinking that the suspect would come out to claim this reward. 601 00:34:39,467 --> 00:34:42,166 And that's exactly what happened. 602 00:34:55,066 --> 00:34:57,634 A few months later, I'm doing something in the back. 603 00:34:59,066 --> 00:35:01,233 Chrissy says, "Gary, there's a guy at the counter 604 00:35:01,767 --> 00:35:03,266 "that wants to use the phones. 605 00:35:03,333 --> 00:35:05,032 "Says that he found some clothes in the woods." 606 00:35:05,033 --> 00:35:06,734 And I said, "Okay." 607 00:35:07,066 --> 00:35:08,266 So I went out. 608 00:35:08,333 --> 00:35:09,966 He says, "I was out rabbit-hunting with my dog, 609 00:35:09,967 --> 00:35:13,366 "and I found some clothes in the woods." 610 00:35:13,367 --> 00:35:16,066 Well, that's a red flag to me 'cause there's really no rabbits here. 611 00:35:17,500 --> 00:35:20,733 And he says, "Well, I found a pair of short, a shirt and a sweatshirt." 612 00:35:20,734 --> 00:35:23,567 And I say, "You know what? Probably not our jogger. 613 00:35:23,634 --> 00:35:25,467 "She didn't have a sweatshirt." 614 00:35:25,533 --> 00:35:27,265 And he just looked at me. 615 00:35:27,266 --> 00:35:29,233 He didn't say a word, he just looked at me. 616 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,866 So I called the State Police. 617 00:35:31,867 --> 00:35:35,200 And I said, "Hey, we got a guy here that found some clothing." 618 00:35:36,734 --> 00:35:38,933 "He says, "I wonder if I get any reward for this." 619 00:35:38,934 --> 00:35:41,866 And I say something like, "Well, it's just clothes, 620 00:35:41,867 --> 00:35:44,233 "you know. No." 621 00:35:45,667 --> 00:35:48,733 So I'm filling up this propane tank behind the store, 622 00:35:48,734 --> 00:35:50,366 and Chrissy comes back 623 00:35:50,367 --> 00:35:52,933 and tells me, "Gary, this guy just told me he was 624 00:35:52,934 --> 00:35:54,934 "the last one to see Kaye Turner alive." 625 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:58,934 So I didn't even talk to him. 626 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,966 I went back to the phone, I called the cops and I said, 627 00:36:01,967 --> 00:36:04,366 "Would it make any difference to you folks 628 00:36:04,367 --> 00:36:07,834 "if I told you he just said he was the last one to see her alive." 629 00:36:07,900 --> 00:36:09,265 They said, "We're sending more people." 630 00:36:11,066 --> 00:36:12,100 Boom. 631 00:36:12,934 --> 00:36:14,667 Who says something like that? 632 00:36:14,734 --> 00:36:15,833 The guy that killed her. 633 00:36:15,834 --> 00:36:16,767 Right? 634 00:36:16,768 --> 00:36:18,200 The last one to see her alive. 635 00:36:30,967 --> 00:36:34,165 If a tree falls in the woods, an no one hears it, 636 00:36:34,166 --> 00:36:35,900 does it make a sound? 637 00:36:36,266 --> 00:36:38,567 The real question is 638 00:36:38,634 --> 00:36:40,634 What does it mean to exist? 639 00:36:41,066 --> 00:36:43,032 To be seen? 640 00:36:43,033 --> 00:36:46,165 If the tree is a woman, like Kaye Turner, 641 00:36:46,166 --> 00:36:47,834 and she screams, 642 00:36:48,300 --> 00:36:51,367 does her voice matter? 643 00:36:51,433 --> 00:36:55,232 Sometimes, a fallen tree can tell the story of what happened. 644 00:36:55,233 --> 00:36:58,934 But it can also be a warning of what will happen again. 645 00:37:02,467 --> 00:37:05,466 And in 1990, Santiam Junction, 646 00:37:05,467 --> 00:37:09,100 that is exactly the case with Rachanda Pickle. 647 00:37:12,767 --> 00:37:14,232 Even with all the manpower, 648 00:37:14,233 --> 00:37:16,966 authorities say there is just too much ground to cover here. 649 00:37:16,967 --> 00:37:19,567 They think Rachanda met with foul play 650 00:37:19,634 --> 00:37:20,710 Her family hasn't heard from her. 651 00:37:20,734 --> 00:37:22,999 Authorities don't have any new leads. 652 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,566 So, searchers are resigned to the fact 653 00:37:24,567 --> 00:37:27,200 that they aren't going to find any good news here. 654 00:37:28,867 --> 00:37:30,467 It was horrible, 655 00:37:30,533 --> 00:37:32,834 knowing how she'd get homesick, you know. 656 00:37:32,900 --> 00:37:35,667 And how dependent she was upon my mom. 657 00:37:35,734 --> 00:37:36,934 I knew... 658 00:37:38,033 --> 00:37:40,833 I knew something bad happened. 659 00:37:40,834 --> 00:37:44,066 As bad as it sounds, I was hoping she got kidnapped and we would find her. 660 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,233 You are hoping for the best, like, "She's lost." 661 00:37:50,300 --> 00:37:54,833 But mentally, a detective's preparing himself for worst-case scenario. 662 00:37:54,834 --> 00:37:58,733 Especially if we don't find the child within 48 hours. 663 00:37:58,734 --> 00:38:00,367 Especially up in the woods... 664 00:38:06,867 --> 00:38:11,466 The statistics show that 88% of the time 665 00:38:11,467 --> 00:38:14,367 the victim knows their assailant. 666 00:38:14,433 --> 00:38:18,833 So, you look at people closest around someone 667 00:38:18,834 --> 00:38:20,467 when they disappear. 668 00:38:21,967 --> 00:38:24,265 Sometimes it may be offensive to parents 669 00:38:24,266 --> 00:38:26,733 when we ask some of the questions we have 670 00:38:26,734 --> 00:38:28,666 but, you know, the parents were the last one to see 'em. 671 00:38:28,667 --> 00:38:30,032 We gotta ask certain questions 672 00:38:30,033 --> 00:38:32,132 to rule them out and move on, 673 00:38:32,133 --> 00:38:33,265 or to other people. 674 00:38:33,266 --> 00:38:35,766 We interviewed many people, 675 00:38:35,767 --> 00:38:39,233 including Rachanda's mother, Linda Ackroyd. 676 00:39:25,166 --> 00:39:29,000 I felt like Linda was just... 677 00:39:29,867 --> 00:39:31,666 laying out what she knew. 678 00:39:31,667 --> 00:39:36,666 And she was very pen and forthright. 679 00:39:36,667 --> 00:39:38,999 I don't think she was lying about it. 680 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:43,300 I think she just really didn't know what happened. 681 00:40:32,233 --> 00:40:34,466 Some people in the family thought 682 00:40:34,467 --> 00:40:37,300 maybe Steven Pickle was to blame. 683 00:40:38,367 --> 00:40:40,766 We know, from court records, 684 00:40:40,767 --> 00:40:43,433 he had sexually abused another child. 685 00:40:44,233 --> 00:40:46,233 Children are not safe in his care. 686 00:40:46,300 --> 00:40:49,467 His own daughter didn't feel safe in his care. 687 00:40:49,533 --> 00:40:54,533 Well, that's kind of what I thought Rachanda was running away from. 688 00:41:37,667 --> 00:41:43,666 He was not in the area during the time in which Rachanda went missing. 689 00:41:43,667 --> 00:41:46,734 He was in Medford, a long ways away, 690 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,433 with his son. 691 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,433 But John could not account for his time. 692 00:41:56,066 --> 00:41:57,946 Well, she thought that I did something to Channy 693 00:42:00,133 --> 00:42:03,600 I loved Chandy. 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