All language subtitles for Thorn Birds E09

Better change your mind now.

Don't say anymore.

Your coming here shows
that you're wavering.

Now that you've seen it,
it hurts, doesn't it?

If you go in and hold the child,

you will not be able to bear
putting her down.

How do you feel now that
you've been living together?

You like it?

Do you want to continue
living in that house?

Does she say that she'll stay home

and properly take care of the
child while you go to work?

Don't say such hateful things on purpose.

I will stay here until you come back.

Until then, I will look after
the baby for you.

Honestly, you aren't confident either.

You made the situation the way it is
in order to look kind-hearted.

You also feel that the future
has become uncertain, don't you?

Fine. You'll find it
very meaningful for a few days,

but after a period of time,
you'll give her up for adoption.

Give her up.

Evil wench.

Yes. I'm scared, too.

I already feel regret.

I too want to live together with
the man I love, with my family.

Now you're being honest.

It's up to you.

Han PD!

Oh, good thing you haven't gone in yet.

That...

Have you seen Lee Young Jo?

What?

You don't know yet...

He suddenly said he was going
to the New York branch office.

What are you saying now?

Young Jo is leaving today.

Where to?

New York.

Jung Eun.

Are you certain?

Then let's go in.

The general manager was looking for you.

Over there?

Were you forced to go overseas?

Yes.

He's going into the terminal right now.

The door has closed.

You're very happy, right?

Got it.

I heard they're about to go in.

Chairman, you've done really well this time.

Lee Young Jo didn't say a thing,
and went straight to the airport.

I didn't think he would go.

He's not going because he wants to.

Didn't you see for yourself?

He couldn't do anything,
and couldn't even find a job.

How could he live like that?

Jung Eun, are you really okay?

I'm fine.

I'm feeling revived
now that I'm in a warm place.

It's really cold today.

I was a bit surprised.

Yesterday when we met,
he didn't mention it.

You like Young Jo?

Don't think about denying it.

He's an oppa I knew when I was young.

I missed him during the period
that we couldn't meet,

that's all.

Why didn't you start over
when you met again?

If you go to the airport now,
you can make him stay.

I can't do that.

Why?

Because you're already a mother?

I'm leaving first.

That...

This is a copy of our movie.

Watch it when you have the time.

Thank you.

We have to leave now
if we are to catch the flight.

What are you doing?

I feel more suave
doing this in front of you.

I've said it before,

whatever I do,
it's all because of you.

Fine,

up till the time you came in,
I was hesitating.

Honestly, I wanted to continue pestering you.

You should pester me and see.

In the end I might agree.

No, don't I understand you?

You won't think highly
of a man who pesters you.

Being aware of that and yet
still hanging on, isn't that love?

Didn't you say you love me?

Didn't you say you hate me?

I have already tried my utmost with you,

but I still can't think of the reason
why it's not enough, why it can't be.

You're asking me why?

Because you are your grandfather's grandson,

you are your father's son,
that's why it can't be.

What are you saying?

I want to forget the crimes your
grandfather and father committed,

but much to my regret, I just can't.

You're saying the reason you abandoned me

is because of my grandfather and father?

What does that have to do with me?

Everything.

Because those people changed my life.

I still have one thing to say to you.

If you know, you will want to kill me.

You definitely won't forgive me.

What do you mean?

Fine, let's end it here.

In the end, you still feel your pride
is more important than me, don't you?

Yes.

I'm sorry I won't be able
to be with you till the end.

From here, I will stand up and start over.

I want you to regret giving me up.

I too, will live my life
according to my ambition.

I will definitely succeed,
just you try to make me regret.

Where did you loaf off to?

What happened?

The boiler has broken down.

It's killing the child.

I didn't even know about this.

What do we do? What do we do?

There's no other choice,
let's go to Gwangjang Market.

My brother is there.

I have his home
telephone number and address.

I have it by chance.

It's the son of the owner of
the clothing store that I frequent.

First call a taxi.

Make the call.

Yes, I know where that is.

I'll be arriving soon.

Okay.

Why didn't you go earlier?

He said never to go.

I stole from my brother 10 years ago.

What are you doing now?

I need this money.

But that's not my money.
That's the money to be remitted today.

Do you know how much that is?

I won't be able to return it
in a lifetime. Give it to me!

Fool, those are cheques.

If I make a police report on them,
you won't be able to withdraw a single won!

You'd be jailed! Quick, give it to me!

You wouldn't do that.

Aren't you my brother?

What?

I really need this money.

If I don't return this money by today,

they'll chase him out.

Who'll get chased out?
What do you mean? Be straight with me.

Who is threatening you now?

I can't say.

I'm a bad woman, I deserve to die,

but today I need to use this money.

Weren't you a famous actress then?

Choi Jung Dal bankrupted the film company,

not even a cent was left.

That money...

Yes.

I gave that money to your foster mother.

If I had wanted to look for you then,

things wouldn't have happened like this.

They said they're moving in today?

How did they get hold of
our home telephone number?

So suddenly.

Didn't they say they had a newborn?

That's precisely why I'm asking
what this all means.

Oh, they're here.

Coming!

Aigoo! Aigoo! It's so cold.

Come in quickly! Come in quickly!

Come in quickly. Aigoo!

No, noona.

Aigoo! It's so cold, so cold.

Aigoo! Aigoo! Child, your hands are cold.

Aigoo! He's wrapped so snugly, he's fine.

Good heavens, what happened?

What happened?

What? Who is this?

Who is this?

Aigoo, how did Lee Ae Rin
become like this?

How did my beautiful sister
become so old?

Good heavens!

Aigoo, how did you become like Mother?

Unnie, how did you become like this?

I'm sorry.

I'm a bad woman. Me.

My God. I heard you'd contracted cancer,
and were having a tough time.

I heard about it, but I only cared about
myself and didn't do anything for you.

I'm sorry, I'm so bad.

Aigoo, I'm sorry. Aigoo. Aigoo.
I don't know why I'm like this either.

What are you saying all this for?

You're as kind as ever.

Until I find a house,

I'm going to have to trouble you.

Aigoo, what are you saying?

No matter how crowded our house,
this room is always empty.

You'll just stay here.

Let's live together, okay?

Aigoo.

What's your name?

Jung Eun.

Aigoo. All right.

When you posted the video on the internet,

I really thought I'd
tear you apart if I saw you.

Aigoo.

It wasn't easy for you to do it either.

It's all right, it's all right.

I'm your aunt.

And there's also your uncle,
and your cousin here.

But... where is your husband?

You didn't...

You had your child alone as well?

Eh?

What's going on?

They came in from such cold weather,
shouldn't we cook some barley tea?

Let me do it, you go in.

You're meeting your sister,
whom you haven't seen in 25 years.

You don't have anything else
to do than meet her, right?

Aigoo.

Why do you feel so badly now?

Pick up your luggage tomorrow instead.

I need to make a trip to the shop.

If the boiler had not broken down,
were you determined to never meet again?

Fix your hair first. You look terrible.

- Do you need anything?
- Yes.

Isn't there anywhere
for this child to lie down?

Ever since she came to me,
she has not slept well.

Are you ill?

Hak Gu!

Yes?

Quick, go to your room
and lay out some blankets.

Noona needs to rest a while.

- Then where do I sleep?
- You go to the room at the back.

Let noona have her own room.

Okay.

No need. It's okay.

It's because we're afraid
your cold will infect the child.

Go quickly.

Excuse me.

Where should the passport number be?

I've never filled this before.

- Yes, I'll help you fill it.
- Thank you.

What are you going to do there?

To study.

Aigoo. It'll be every tough.

My daughter is the same.

I'm going to look after her child.

Oh.

- Thank you.
- It's okay.

Look, isn't she beautiful? Aigoo.

My daughter had a child
in a place full of strangers.

It must be tough and frightening for her.

But because she didn't want me
to worry, she kept saying it was okay,

and pretended to be strong.

But today she called me,
and she was sobbing.

Aigoo. This silly child.

Are you all right?

It's nothing.

Aigoo. You must be thinking of
your mother to have such a reaction.

Aigoo.

It's only been a few hours
since you left Seoul.

How are you going to be able to cope?

It's okay.
It's okay. Go back to sleep.

Thank you.

You saved me.

If it weren't for you,

I would have died there.

I never thought that it would be
so easy to come home.

As for all that I've deprived you of,
I will try to give to your child.

Now you don't have to worry about me,

nor do you have to worry about the child.

If there is somewhere you wish to go, go.

From the fact that you found
the location of this house,

I feel that you needed me, that
you needed to leave the child to me.

That's why you did what you did.

Think about it.

I'm saying now you can do as you wish.

Go to sleep.

Good night.

Oh, one more thing.

Do you know Han Yoo Kyung PD?

Eh?

When I saw her today,

it looked like she was going
somewhere far away.

Oh.

Are you very close to Han PD?

When the scandal broke, during the
period I was shut up in the house,

she often brought me food,
and also stayed to chat.

She was very good to me.

But I haven't even thanked her.

Aigoo. Wait a moment,
I'll be there immediately.

Hold on, I'm coming, I'm coming.

Father, come quickly.

I'll be out soon.

Do you need anything?

No, go on.

Is it because of noona that
you're unwilling to leave,

and are still loitering around?

Sweep the courtyard!

Don't worry about all this.
Go and earn more money instead.

I'm off.

All right.

What's the matter with her?

Her own child has been
making a fuss for so long;

how could she still be sleeping?

What happened?

Her shoes are gone.

Unnie, where did the child go?

Are you watching from heaven?

Lee Ae Rin said she'll
let me do as I wish.

That I don't have to return
to that house.

Now I can walk my own path.

But...

I really want to go to that house.

I'm a fraud, aren't I?

I know that too.

I'm being thick-skinned to miss it.

But I still want to go to that house.

Pretend to be her daughter,
and live with my mother.

Mother doesn't have many relatives either,

and will understand my feelings.

When I was alone,

when I woke up alone in the house,
I was very lonely and scared.

I don't want to face an empty space
talking to myself anymore.

About that, Unnie...

Honestly, our house isn't
what it used to be.

I mean, it's not as if we were
very well off in the past either.

The fabric business is completely unprofitable.

Nowadays, who still tailors suits?

We lose out to Italian fabrics...
Chinese fabrics...

Aigoo, what should I do?

The future is gloomy. Our only son
has just opened a clothing store,

and even at my age,
I still have to go there and shout

�Come and buy! Come and buy!�
Really! Aigoo.

Don't say that I'm cold-hearted.

Even the boiler is spoilt,
and you have a newborn,

so I don't want to say anything,
and let everything be.

But it's really not like that.

Oh... this child...

Even if you'd gone to get your luggage,
you should have said something before going.

We were so worried.

There wasn't much anyway.

It's only been a short time
since you gave birth,

yet you are lifting such heavy things.

I packed some stuff from
your place in Changshindong.

- Where's the baby?
- Sleeping inside.

Why did you come back?

You should have flown away since you left.

If I did that I'd be even lonelier.

Are you making fun of me?

I still lived a dignified
life with President Han.

I will live well too.

This is our rent.

Hyungnim, what do you want for lunch?

Oh, what's in the envelope?
Does it contain money?

Take it, it's rent.

What rent? We're family!

Aigoo, from the looks of all this luggage,

it seems you're planning
to stay here for the long term.

Could it be that this is all your savings?

Don't worry, I'll earn back the
money after resting for a few days.

How much do we have to
contribute for living expenses?

What living expenses?

I already said we're all one family.

If the head of the family gets
to know of it, he'll get angry again.

Well, in any case, let's take
our time with the calculations.

Let me do it, Teacher.

What?

Really! Why are you calling
your mother �Teacher�? Aigoo.

Niece, can you run an errand
for Aunt in a while?

Okay.

Do you still keep in touch
with your foster mother?

No.

Don't you want to ask me about anything?

No.

How can you not be curious?

The female employee from the film company
was always trying to get to the root of things.

You mean Yoo Kyung?

The two of you call each other by name?

We got to know each other well during filming.

Wasn't it before the audition when I saw
you and Han PD in front of the office?

I don't remember.

I'm making a trip to the market.

There's a movie that's quite good
opening next week.

Shall we go and watch it together?

Then, next Thursday at 5 here, okay?

It's 5.

He shouldn't be here.

Come in and have a seat.

Yes.

It's as you thought.

It's not my view; it's your grandfather's.

Shortly before he passed away,
he stood here and said

since you were anyway going to let it
get stolen, he'd take it away

with his own hands first and
make you stand on your own.

So he left me a store?

Initially there were three.

Ten years ago, a robber
stole all our assets.

It was your grandfather
who helped me repay it.

Even if my family still doesn't know
that it's yours, I'll return it to you.

But HeaJu Shop is still in deficit now.

You can say that its only assets are
the bolts of fabric in this storehouse.

It will be very difficult.

Before I gain some influence,
I'd rather not be revealed,

nor should I reveal who I am
to the people around me,

nor is there any need for me
to change my name.

Fine then. If Young Gook
or Choi Jung Dal finds out,

they will definitely destroy you again.

I'll just call you Lee, then.

Okay.

Also, yesterday Myung Ja noona
came to our house.

She has aged considerably
during the time she had cancer.

Noona knows you too, and will understand.

My return has been most fortunate.

That daughter...

You mean Jung Eun? The infant's mother?

What?

It's as if she dropped from the sky,
and brought a baby angel.

What? You're saying that Young Jo
didn't go to America?

What do you mean by that?

Didn't you say you saw
him with your own eyes

carrying his luggage into the terminal?

Then that means he did that on purpose?

I think he wanted to escape
and hide from his brother.

I heard the chairman of the film company
say that from the time he resigned,

it was like he had figured out something.

No! So you mean to say that rascal
even fooled our Kang Woo

and has gone into hiding?

Send people to look for him
at once! Find him!

We must find him before
Chairman Lee finds out.

What do you mean?

- Oh, you're busy. I've to leave.
- Okay.

Kang Woo, you look for Young Jo as well.

Haven't you been friends for 10 years?

Didn't you said that he's hiding on purpose?

Is he stupid? Would he tell me, your son?

Are all the rumours true?

It really was you who brought
Young Jo to this state.

How could you do that?

I have been treated worse than a stray
dog by that family, don't you know?

You have no idea, but
your father will forever remember.

So...

So you are hurting us this way?

Come in.

Why are you outside?

I'm going to visit the child's mother.

We'll make the introductions tomorrow.

You can stay in the basement
storeroom for now.

Hak Gu would definitely
have kept it spic and span.

- Right, I got it.
- Go and rest.

Wake up, wake up.

What?

Young Jo is outside.

You will be staying here together.

It can't be.

He's gone to New York.

Don't do that.
This is very beautiful fabric,

yet you handle it so roughly.

Noona, noona, I love you noona.

If only I could embrace you.

Load it.

Ah, how could a young man be like that?

You've only loaded a few bolts.
Load faster.

The sun is almost up.

Noona, noona.

If the child has fallen asleep, let's eat.

The morning business has ended,
they should be hungry.

Okay.

Aigoo. You've worked hard.
Wash up quickly and let's eat.

Is this the first time
you've done manual labour?

- Yes.
- Aigoo. Really, you're so strong.

I don't know which family you're from,
but you must be making them worry.

Quick, come in.
Come in after you've washed up.

Hyungnim, come out quickly.
The child's mother, come out also.

Where's Father?

He said he had something on, and went out.

Hyungnim, please come out.

Sit down. This is my Hyungnim,
and this is my niece.

This is a new employee.
Was it Lee?

Quick, sit down.
The atmosphere is so strange.

Please take care of me.

Please sit down.

Oh, good heavens.

Looks like you didn't know
who my sister is.

Unnie, didn't I tell you to dye your hair?

My noona is very pretty, isn't she?

Wake up,

my noona is the mother of a child.

Working at night is more tiring than normal.

I've packed it full,
so eat as much as you can.

So much.

Thank you.

Even if you're tired,
endure a little while more.

Even people who are used to manual labour
may not be able to endure for a month.

Looks like you're not used to manual labour.

Will you be able to endure for a week?

I like the appetite you have.

Cold-hearted jerks.

A real star is here.

Mi Ryun, have you been waiting long?

H Group's "Mr. X" is Lee Young Jo, isn't he?

What?

Seo Jin

said that she broke up with
Lee Young Jo because he lost everything.

Seo Jin should be in that beauty salon.

Look at those reporters at the entrance.

The weather's so cold,
why did you come here?

You wanted to see Han Soo oppa, didn't you?

I'm going crazy.

I think about him when I don't see him,

buy I get angry when I see him.

The date of the wedding is coming soon,

but what am I doing here?

So it's because of this
that you asked me here?

Hey! You call yourself a friend
but you don't have any loyalty.

I'm going to the washroom.

Where's the washroom?

- There.
- General Manager.

Is Young Jo an idiot to come back here?
Do you think I'm easy to fool?

Your father, President Choi, asked me
to keep an eye on Young Jo's mother.

So,

just follow her and ask
where Young Jo is?

If we ask around,
the matter will blow up.

We've lied to the Chairman that
Young Jo has gone to New York.

No matter how despicable I am,
I still can't do that.

That's enough.

You really don't know where he is?

I'm going to make a trip to the
beauty salon, and assess the situation.

Department Head!

Please don't be like that!

Young Jo's mother will be frightened.

Does this look right? It must
have been staged. Think about it.

Young Jo sunbae and Seo Jin.

- Choi PD.
- Look at this.

Decide on the next location shoot
before the end of the day.

What's happened to Young Jo sunbae?

He must have been dumped by Seo Jin.

Then he's wooing her back.

Yet he claimed never to have
known her. Is that reasonable?

The most mystifying thing is why HeaJu
is not suppressing this scandal at all.

His value is about to be destroyed,
how can they worry about loyalty?

So using that as an excuse, they're
ordering the exiled prince to be executed.

Stop gossiping. Get back to work.

Yes.

New York has called.
Young Jo is doing very well there.

- Really?
- Really? That's great.

That's just as I said it would be.

1088 hundred, 7098 ten, 700.
5 o'clock is it?

One bag, okay.

That's newly delivered
by the factory, yet you...

That, that, what are you
going to do about it?

Get rid of those, otherwise
we won't have anything left.

I'm sorry.

Look at this.

These fabrics all have serial numbers.

7098 ten, this one,

- that means I need 10 bolts of this.
- Yes.

You need to memorise the serial
numbers of the new products.

Do you know how to use the scissors?

Try to cut it.

Look at you! This way...

Really, you didn't cut the fabric neatly.

That's not how you cut the length.
Can't you see?

Our shop normally has
a few people working here.

Do you know why there aren't any now?

It's to see how long you can last.

First go and memorise the
serial numbers of the fabrics.

Okay.

This...

Father, was I a bit too much?

- Be more excessive.
- More?

Actually Father doesn't like
to have to take him in either.

You were asked by someone,
and couldn't turn him down,

so you want him to leave on his own, right?

I got it. I will get him to pack
and leave within a week.

Rascal, I meant to teach him properly.

Understand?

Reporters, you are disrupting
business by standing here.

If Miss Seo Jin comes out,
we'll take a look and leave.

It's nothing.

All of you please leave.

Why did you suddenly come here?

I came to verify what the customers
are saying in the shop.

Thank you.

She's coming, she's coming.

Has Young Jo oppa gone to New York?

Haven't you broken up?
What does that have to do with you?

We really do not have any relationship,
so stop misunderstanding.

Aigoo, there are even photos
of you leading him into a hotel.

- Who are you trying to fool?
- Ajumma.

You don't know anything,
don't spout nonsense.

That's enough. Don't worry about Young Jo.

You should manage your own image properly.

Oh my, look at that.

What is she doing, acting like that
towards her future mother-in-law?

It's not her. She has nothing
to do with Young Jo.

No? How do you know?

She didn't recognize the ring.

Oh my, is this real?

Did Young Jo buy it?

Who was the person who rejected this?

Tell Han Soo that this is a fake,
otherwise he'll steal it.

Why are you still wearing shades
on a day like this?

I was wondering who it was.

Look how blue your face is.

You'll get frostbite.

Have you been waiting here
for me all day?

What are you talking about?
I've just arrived.

Then when did you come
to make a fool of people?

Why did you come to my shop entrance
and make an absurd display of yourself?

It's freezing, it's freezing, it's freezing.

If it weren't for the display, my life
would have changed a long time ago.

Don't tell me that you did it all
because you couldn't forget about me?

Why did you get me over here?

Do you want to fool me again?

It's azaleas, you fool.

Tomorrow I'm going to select my
wedding gown, will you accompany me?

Hey, you cruel girl.

Just you wait, I'm definitely
going to make you regret it.

What are you saying?
What are you thinking of doing?

What am I going to do?

A lot.

Mother, Mother, Mother.

Mother, find me a job.

Any company will do. I will work hard.

I'd be sorry to any company,
I can't do that.

Just continue living
the way you do, please.

I want to have a family.

I want to live together
with Yang Mi Ryun.

Thanks to the fact that she wants
to get married, my son has grown up.

Who are you?

You must be Han Soo.

You've grown to be quite good-looking.

Go out.

Where is Young Jo?

What are you talking about?

Don't you know that he didn't
go to America?

Your son has been bankrupted
by Young Gook.

He said he was going to America,
but sneaked back.

Is it reasonable that as his mother
you don't know anything?

Then where is Young Jo now?

She's still not done?

Is something the matter?

Shh... we are going to pay
our respects to the princess now.

You come in too.
You haven't seen her yet, right?

Come on.

Okay.

- Noona, let me. Let me.
- All right, all right.

You've already washed your hands.

Our princess is ready.

Look how beautiful our princess is.

That's right, her face has changed so much.

Shouldn't we register her birth?

This time let's do it properly.

Not like me.

His original name was "Hakgyo".

His greatest regret was
not having gone to school.

Aigoo. After our son was born,
he went to register his birth,

He was so drunk then.

Hak Gyo, Hak Gyu, Hak Gu.

That's how it became like that.

Guests who came to our house
for the first time

thought that he was Myunggoo's
younger brother, Hakgoo.

Enough.

Have you given her a name?

I'm reminded of byul.

Byul?

Only one word?

No, it's Han Byul, Seo Han Byul.

Oh, that's very nice.

Han Byul, I'm your grand aunt.

I'm your uncle.

Can I carry her for a while?

Okay.

- Come here.
- This is also your uncle.

Come, carry her for a moment.

Be careful, be careful.

Seo Han Byul, hello.

You're so pretty,
who on earth do you resemble?

Me, me, me.

Aigoo, the weather is so lovely.

Hasn't the house been tidied yet?

What's that?

It's nothing.

Is it that video?

Niece, are you going to upload that too?

No matter how I look at it,
it doesn't seem so.

Unnie, I'm off.

It's a behind-the-scenes look at
� To My Loving Daughter � .

If it's a behind-the-scenes film,

then everyone who participated
in the filming will have them.

Shall we watch it together?

Okay.

But how did Han Yoo Kyung
know that I had a child?

Was it you who told her?

No.

How did she know?

Oh, excuse me.
Are you going to work?

Come, drink this before you go.

Okay.

Thank you.

Other than yourself,
who else knows about the video?

Han Yoo Kyung should also know, right?

Because it was she who was
responsible for spreading it.

Why do you ask?

Oh, nothing.

I only wanted to talk to you.

I'm very sorry to have worried you.

Yes, Hak Gu?

I got it. I'll be there immediately.

Yes, yes.

- I...
- Oh, go on then.

Also,

Jung Eun and Han PD knew
each other before filming, right?

I heard they were childhood friends.

And then?

Can you tell me anything else
that you know?

Even though we worked together,
I don't know much.

Is that so?

Go on then.

Okay.

Who is that?

Why were you so startled?

Is that your foster mother?

No.

Then who is that? Let me see.

She's a beauty.

Who is this woman?

Jung Eun.

What is it?

Say it.

I can't lie about this.

She's my mother.

What are you saying?

She's my birth mother.

She passed away not long ago.

What are you saying?

Who are you?

It's not me.

What are you not?

Tell me everything from the beginning!

That video on the internet, were
you the girl who held my photo,

and said that I was her mother?

It was a coincidence.

The one who held your photo from a young
age and said that you were her mother...

The child that filmed it...
it was a joke?

Who was it?

I heard that Seo Jung Eun and
Han Yoo Kyung were childhood friends.

It can't be.

If your daughter comes looking
for you at film company,

what would you do?

I would not let her come,

and would definitely tell her
not to appear in front of me.

Don't you want to meet her?

Aren't you curious at all what
she looks like, what she's called?

It can't be Han Yoo Kyung...

Is it her?

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Looks like there's no news
of Young Jo up till now.

Is it okay to just sit by peacefully?

Is there no news at all
on where Seo Jung Eun is?

Being anxious and lonely,
I can't do it anymore.

Leave before the family gets back.

What does the child's father do?

So you're saying there's no chance
you're going to reconcile?

Don't underestimate Young Jo.

No matter what, he's Grandfather's grandson.

You are an actress as well,

let's be mother and daughter then.