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There is a lot of
sadness and a lot of fear.
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It scares me.
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There is something in this
house that I can't see.
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I was pulled into the closet.
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They get pissed. They attack.
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I have definitely stirred things up.
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Amy's not gonna like that.
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It's kind of demented.
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They're trying to get
out, and they can't.
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They're being watched.
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My name is Amy Allan.
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This thing likes death.
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I see dead people.
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This thing's, like, a monster.
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I speak to dead people.
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And he's pissed off now.
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And they speak to me.
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His head was cracked.
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But there's only one way to
know if my findings are real.
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This guy was murdered.
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I rely on my partner.
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I'm Steve Di Schiavi. I'm a retired
New York City homicide Detective.
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I cannot help you unless
I know the whole story.
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And I know every person,
every house has secrets.
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You saw her?
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It's my job to reveal them.
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Why would you stay here?
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But Steve and I never speak...
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We never communicate
during an investigation.
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Until the very end.
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[ Echoing ] Stop it.
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We uncover if it's
safe for you to stay...
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Woman: I want to know the truth.
I want to know what's happening.
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Or time to get out.
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[ Crying ] I told you there
were ghosts in this house.
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Di Schiavi: As a former Detective,
I know most cases can be solved,
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if you know where to look.
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That's why I look into the location's dark
history and interview living witnesses.
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While Amy communicates with the dead.
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This is an interesting case.
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I did some homework, and I'm kind of
suspicious of our client's motives.
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So I'm not willing to disclose exactly
where I am until I find out more.
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I got a call from a guy named
Todd, who's a single dad.
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He went and bought this mansion in
hopes of turning it into a hotel...
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But he says things there are out of
control, and he thinks it's not safe.
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Worst of all, he thinks it's his fault.
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He still deserves an
honest investigation.
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At least until I can find out
what his exact intentions are.
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Anderson: Before Amy arrives, I have to
clear the area of any leading information.
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This house doesn't look lived in,
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but it's still important that I remove
anything that could influence her findings.
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When I'm done, the location
will be ready for tonight's walk.
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[ Door squeaks ]
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Allan: There's a lot of
people here, and they're sick.
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None of 'em are thinking right.
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It's overwhelming me because
they're all kind of, like, coming.
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I'm very nervous to go upstairs.
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I feel very uncomfortable about that.
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It's disturbing.
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Di Schiavi: Todd, when I
spoke to you on the phone,
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you sounded like you were
in a pretty bad place.
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What's going on in this house?
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I want to make this into a hotel and
be able to pass this down to my son.
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So, what's stopping you?
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There's just so much
activity in this house.
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We hear people's footsteps.
We can see apparitions.
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People are being physically touched.
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Hanging around the neighborhood
and talking to people,
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they told me that you turned
this place into a haunted house.
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So, what's the story with that?
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Well, during the Halloween season, I
would open up as a Halloween attraction.
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I ran that for eight years,
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and around approximately 30,000
people came through every October.
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I could tell you right now,
Amy's not gonna like that.
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- No?
- Because you're exploiting the dead.
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Di Schiavi: I believe Todd's story,
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but he's also making money off of what's
going on here, so he's got a conflict.
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I've seen this happen before,
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and it never ends well for these
guys once Amy does her walk.
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I believe over these years, I
have definitely stirred things up.
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Beyond a reasonable doubt, there is
something in this house that I can't see.
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Ugh.
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I just feel people freaking
themselves out constantly.
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It's this thing that
living people left here.
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Residual fear.
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You're, like, oh, oh, God.
Oh, God, I'm so scared.
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But it's not... it's not real.
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They're showing me people who are
alive, and they're laughing at them.
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Like, they're just
like, this is ridiculous.
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- The dead are laughing at the living?
- Yes.
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Di Schiavi: Todd, why'd you
bring me up here? What's going on?
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There's been a lot of
groups come through here,
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exploring and investigating,
doing their EVP sessions.
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So, how many groups
are we talking about?
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I would say approximately
maybe 100 groups.
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100?
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Yeah, over all these years, they've
come in and done their investigation.
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You still continue to
have people come in?
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No, there's no more
investigating whatsoever.
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- And when did that stop?
- Probably about two years ago.
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From what the city says,
the building is unsafe.
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It's just been sitting
here vacant by itself.
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It seems to me that...
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The living have put more
negativity into this place,
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than the dead.
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A lot of stuff has been cleaned here.
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Anderson: You mean, like, entities?
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Mm-hmm. It's, like, psychics.
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And people trying to talk to them
all the time and things like that.
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They think it's...
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[Bleep] Up.
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When I come in, I say, just let me
know what you want people to know.
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This is all they want people to know.
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This is [Bleep] up. This is sick.
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Di Schiavi: Anything else in this room?
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- I was decorating this wall right here.
- Okay.
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Out of my peripheral vision,
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I could see a full-figured black
entity standing at this doorway.
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- This one here?
- Yes.
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And within a second, it rushed me.
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It just came from that
doorway straight up to me.
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I jumped, I screamed, and it was gone.
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You got a lot of traffic
out in front of this place.
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You sure it couldn't have been,
like, a light reflecting something,
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and then, as it moved,
it came towards you?
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I have never been more sure of anything.
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That it was that black figure,
and it came right up to me.
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That frightened me.
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I think people have
had experiences in here.
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Anderson: Do the dead
interact with them at all?
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Yes. They attack.
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The dead here are fed up
with people harassing them.
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Now they're fighting back, trying to
force the living out of their space.
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They get pissed.
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And they will...
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You know, really jump on the living.
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So, what do they do?
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Pushing, they try to be very physical
and push the living people out of there.
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I think it's really important that you
know that this used to be the Sanitarium.
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Di Schiavi: What kind of
patients we talking about?
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- Mentally ill patients stayed here.
- Did they leave any records behind?
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They did. Up on the fourth floor. You
are more than welcome to go through 'em.
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Okay.
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And over here is where
the hospital wing was.
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It was a wing?
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There was a 10,000-square-foot wing
right here that housed 17 bedrooms.
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So, what happened to it?
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I demolished it all.
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Okay, now, did you have
an experience in there?
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Yes. When I was in the hospital wing,
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getting ready to open up
for the Halloween attraction,
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something came up behind me and
physically touched me on my lower back.
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It felt like a human hand.
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And I turned around quickly to see
if someone else needed my attention,
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and no one was there.
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I think there were a lot of
people here who were mentally ill.
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It just kind of creeped me out because
it's, like, they can't communicate, really.
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They just look...
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Weird.
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Either way drugged out, so
it made them, like, be like...
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No, I really think that they
were nuts because of how they...
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Are moving.
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How do they move?
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Just, you know, you have, like, the
ones who are crawling on the walls.
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Ooh, I don't like 'em.
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So, Glenda, thanks for meeting me here,
but it seems like you're a little...
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Uneasy being in the house.
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Mm-hmm, yes, I am.
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I just get the shakes
every time I come in here.
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One of my friends, when she
came here, got violently ill.
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It was like she was
having a heart attack.
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As a matter of fact, she went
to the hospital for three days.
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What was wrong with her?
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To this day, six years later,
they still haven't figured it out.
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Okay, have you had experiences?
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Yes.
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We were in one of the rooms upstairs,
and I got touched right here.
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And then, just a few minutes later,
they started touching my head, hard.
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Okay, what did you do?
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I ran into the other room and just
stayed put for the rest of the night.
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- I wouldn't go anywhere else.
- Now, let me ask you a question.
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The night this stuff
happened you sure nobody was
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messing around with you
being that it was dark?
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No, there was nobody around me.
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- At all?
- No.
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Pretty much since that night, every
time I come in here, I get touched.
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It scares me.
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I don't particularly like it down here,
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because the dead people...
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Hang out down here a lot.
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There is a man who's very agitated.
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So I think he could actually
be pretty aggressive,
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as far as trying to
reach out and get help.
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In life, when they were locked
down here, trying to get out,
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they're trying to get
out, and they can't.
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It's very chaotic.
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Just hearing the movement,
scratching on the walls,
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screaming, banging on the
walls, trying to get out.
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Like, those noises.
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I don't like it at all.
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What do you think about
Todd owning this place?
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At first when he bought it,
I encouraged him, you know?
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Oh, my gosh, it's like a
gold mine type of thing.
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You know, he was doing
the Halloween attraction.
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And then as things start
happening, and I see things,
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and I feel things, I'm
like, I'd get rid of it.
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What do you think your brother
should be doing with this house?
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Bulldoze it down, and then... I
mean, it's on commercial property.
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Do something else.
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Let me ask you a question. Would
you stay here overnight alone?
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- Absolutely not.
- Okay.
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I will never stay here again.
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I will not shut my eyes in this home.
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Something here has been getting
physical with people inside the mansion.
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So I've reached out to one
of Todd's former employees,
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from when this place was
a Halloween attraction,
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who says she had a terrifying
experience while on the job.
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Laura, I understand that you
actually used to work here.
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Yes. I would just pop
out and scare people.
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Laura, Todd told me that you
had a pretty bad experience here.
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Why don't you tell me about it?
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I was standing here in this closet
wearing a black cloak to not be seen.
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And before we opened the
house, I was pulled back,
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into the closet, like,
hands grabbing me.
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And I had to jiggle away.
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I turned on my flashlight to make sure that
I didn't get caught on a nail or anything.
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- Okay.
- And I...
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So I just kind of tugged
away and ran out of here.
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Okay so you looked behind you with the
flashlight, you didn't see anything?
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Didn't see anything.
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And anybody else couldn't have
been in the closet with you?
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No.
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When I ran out, my boss said that,
you look like you saw a ghost.
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And he goes, well, what are you doing?
Go back in, we're getting ready to open.
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I said, no, I quit.
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- So, you quit that night?
- I quit that night.
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I checked Laura's employment records.
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And sure enough, she did
quit her job that night.
240
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Okay, so, have you been back here since?
241
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- No.
- Okay. How do you feel now being in here?
242
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Very nervous.
243
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This isn't good. It isn't
cute. It's not funny.
244
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It's kind of demented.
245
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That's what they just said.
246
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Anderson: Who's they?
247
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The dead.
248
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As I walk through this mansion,
I keep hearing the dead yelling
249
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about how they've had it with
the living antagonizing them.
250
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They're repulsed, really repulsed.
251
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Do you know if that's the sort of thing
that living people might pick up on?
252
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I think that they yell at them and...
253
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Try to push them out with their energy.
254
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It can be pretty violent.
255
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Di Schiavi: Todd mentioned his
mansion used to be a Sanitarium.
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So I'm heading over to
meet with the County Coroner
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who knows all the history
about the building.
258
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He says the stuff that went on behind
those walls is gonna turn my stomach.
259
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So, Dr. Hadden, the
place I'm investigating,
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I found out, used to be a Sanitarium.
261
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Yes.
262
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And I was wondering what kind of
patients would have been there.
263
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When it first opened, they
took Tuberculosis patients.
264
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Okay.
265
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I have here an ad that we
found in an old phone book.
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And it looks like a lovely home.
267
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They make it look inviting.
268
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Yes, but I suspect inside,
it was anything but inviting.
269
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Tuberculosis is very contagious.
270
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TB patients are spitting up
blood, coughing uncontrollably.
271
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There was loss of weight,
inability to breathe properly.
272
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It was a very, very unhappy place.
273
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I see uh, a woman.
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She's kind of leaning against the wall.
275
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But she's this kind
of weird beigey color.
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Like she's sick.
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Like, I feel, like, nauseated.
278
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Like, I see a guy
throwing up in the corner.
279
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Yeah, there's, like, a lot of illne...
I'm feeling a lot of illness here.
280
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[ Sighs ]
281
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Tuberculosis was the second leading
cause of death in The United States,
282
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so you can well imagine that there were
lots and lots of people dying from it.
283
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So, I can assume, a
lot of dead bodies went
284
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through the doors of the
place I'm investigating.
285
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Yes.
286
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We have stories about
how they'd be five or six,
287
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bodies at any given time in
the basement of the facility.
288
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They had nothing to do with them
but put them in the basement.
289
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Until the mortician
comes to pick them up.
290
00:17:28,856 --> 00:17:31,606
Okay, so, once the person's
dead, are they still contagious?
291
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Yes. It's an incredibly
bad thing to do because,
292
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it can help spread the disease
as the body breaks down.
293
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Okay.
294
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There are dead bodies...
295
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Down here. I'm not sure how many.
296
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It rotated, it seems like.
297
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They kind of travel as a pack.
298
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And they don't really
want to be bothered.
299
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They want to be left alone.
300
00:18:14,668 --> 00:18:19,528
There's a lot of sadness
and a lot of fear.
301
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You mentioned there were some
horrible things going on in that place.
302
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What are we talking about?
303
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It was very crowded. We know that
they had 1 nurse for 20 patients.
304
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- Okay.
- And these are desperately ill people.
305
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These are people who are dying, and one
nurse cannot administer to all their needs.
306
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Okay.
307
00:18:38,435 --> 00:18:42,372
Now, the TB epidemic, did it ever
kind of slow down at some point?
308
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Yes, it did, when therapeutics came
in, and that would be in the '50s.
309
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And the medicine worked pretty well, so
sanitariums kind of went out of business.
310
00:18:50,874 --> 00:18:53,088
Okay, so, what happened to
the place I'm investigating?
311
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Did they ever get
different patients, or...
312
00:18:54,956 --> 00:18:57,897
Well, they looked for a new clientele.
313
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So they took in the mentally ill.
314
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You could have severely
depressed patients.
315
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You could have schizophrenics.
You could have bipolar.
316
00:19:05,974 --> 00:19:08,342
Okay, so, now they have mental patients,
317
00:19:08,343 --> 00:19:10,926
in this facility where they
used to have TB patients.
318
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Did their conditions get
better for the mental patients?
319
00:19:13,329 --> 00:19:15,666
Well, I think they got worse.
320
00:19:15,667 --> 00:19:20,061
We do have a list of
transgressions of mistreatment.
321
00:19:20,062 --> 00:19:24,757
And these are people who have filed
complaints against the institution.
322
00:19:24,758 --> 00:19:26,827
They would treat mental
patients very poorly.
323
00:19:26,828 --> 00:19:29,750
They would chain them
to toilets and sinks.
324
00:19:29,751 --> 00:19:33,604
They would have them
lying nude in the hallway.
325
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Some did electroshock
therapy and lobotomies.
326
00:19:37,733 --> 00:19:43,141
Or they'd over medicate them
and make them barely conscious.
327
00:19:43,142 --> 00:19:45,612
Why did this place actually close?
328
00:19:45,613 --> 00:19:50,458
I can only suspect what happened is, as the
state inspection became more stringent...
329
00:19:50,459 --> 00:19:53,601
They could not meet the new standards.
330
00:19:53,602 --> 00:19:59,502
They had desperately ill people, and they
just did not know what to do with them.
331
00:20:03,575 --> 00:20:07,397
I feel someone being held down...
332
00:20:07,398 --> 00:20:11,977
Against their will. They're
trying to fight back.
333
00:20:11,978 --> 00:20:17,878
They're struggling and trying to get
away, and this guy is, like, getting...
334
00:20:18,256 --> 00:20:23,661
Like, his head is, like, slammed
into the wall or something.
335
00:20:23,662 --> 00:20:28,824
There's a lot of crying.
Men and women are crying.
336
00:20:28,825 --> 00:20:31,347
They're screaming.
337
00:20:31,348 --> 00:20:33,550
There's, like, this...
338
00:20:33,551 --> 00:20:36,572
Humming noise. A male, like...
339
00:20:36,573 --> 00:20:38,493
Mmmm.
340
00:20:44,883 --> 00:20:50,343
People just died here from
mental or regular illnesses.
341
00:20:51,657 --> 00:20:54,083
Things did happen here.
342
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Accidents that resulted in death.
343
00:21:16,793 --> 00:21:19,589
Di Schiavi: Todd told me that a
bunch of old records were left behind,
344
00:21:19,590 --> 00:21:22,336
from when this place was a Sanitarium.
345
00:21:22,337 --> 00:21:27,645
As I dig through them, the
same name keeps turning up...
346
00:21:27,646 --> 00:21:30,226
Carl Lamoreaux.
347
00:21:30,266 --> 00:21:36,166
I need to find out more about
his connection to this property.
348
00:21:36,337 --> 00:21:39,605
I'm on my way to meet with a local
attorney who did some digging for me.
349
00:21:39,606 --> 00:21:45,506
And she said she found some information
that could really help my case.
350
00:21:50,222 --> 00:21:53,004
This guy, Lamoreaux, his
name's all over everything.
351
00:21:53,005 --> 00:21:58,083
I mean, patient records,
insurance claims, staff lists.
352
00:21:58,084 --> 00:21:59,856
What were you able
to find out about him?
353
00:21:59,857 --> 00:22:04,369
Well, he ran the facility
from about 1973 until 1985.
354
00:22:04,370 --> 00:22:08,210
He died in 1985 at his own facility.
355
00:22:08,211 --> 00:22:11,561
He was only 57 years old at that time.
356
00:22:11,562 --> 00:22:15,209
From what I was told, there was a lot
of abuse in this place at some point.
357
00:22:15,210 --> 00:22:19,407
There were many, many allegations and
complaints brought against the facility.
358
00:22:19,408 --> 00:22:23,473
And many of the claims came out
after his death, interestingly enough.
359
00:22:23,474 --> 00:22:26,175
Why would all these
claims come after he dies?
360
00:22:26,176 --> 00:22:30,179
Well, it appears that Lamoreaux
was somewhat of a public figure.
361
00:22:30,180 --> 00:22:34,116
He was a hospital administrator, and
he was somewhat of an intimidating guy.
362
00:22:34,117 --> 00:22:37,749
If he's such a prominent, public figure,
I mean, why would he allow this to happen?
363
00:22:37,750 --> 00:22:40,203
Well, what we discovered
is that he's not just
364
00:22:40,204 --> 00:22:42,072
the administrator for
the Clovis Sanitarium.
365
00:22:42,073 --> 00:22:45,495
He is the administrator for
many other facilities, as well.
366
00:22:45,496 --> 00:22:48,202
And so, he might have been
a little overextended and
367
00:22:48,203 --> 00:22:51,007
might not have really paid a lot of
attention to the Clovis Sanitarium.
368
00:22:51,008 --> 00:22:52,006
Okay.
369
00:22:52,007 --> 00:22:55,844
However, we discovered that a Gladys
Brashears and her husband, Lee,
370
00:22:55,845 --> 00:23:00,187
actually ran the facility from about 1942
all the way until Lamoreaux took over.
371
00:23:00,188 --> 00:23:02,835
Okay, what about them, any
claims that you saw against them?
372
00:23:02,836 --> 00:23:06,542
Well, there's been a lot of complaints and
allegations, as well, against the facility.
373
00:23:06,543 --> 00:23:08,865
However back in those days
there wasn't a lot of oversight,
374
00:23:08,866 --> 00:23:11,327
and a lot of the patients
safety-safeguards that we have,
375
00:23:11,328 --> 00:23:14,868
weren't in place back then.
376
00:23:17,445 --> 00:23:22,612
Allan: This man and woman oversaw or
were living here or owned this place.
377
00:23:22,613 --> 00:23:26,645
They're saying that they
took care of things very well.
378
00:23:26,646 --> 00:23:31,441
But I don't trust them.
I think they're liars.
379
00:23:31,442 --> 00:23:36,722
And these two are saying
that they did a good job.
380
00:23:37,724 --> 00:23:40,371
We did a good job. We did
a good job. We did good job.
381
00:23:40,372 --> 00:23:44,841
I'm just, like, no, you know, like,
I don't know what the [Bleep] you did,
382
00:23:44,842 --> 00:23:49,162
but you didn't do a good [Bleep] job.
383
00:23:49,282 --> 00:23:53,302
And then I hear partners in crime.
384
00:23:53,459 --> 00:23:56,099
It's very bad.
385
00:23:58,514 --> 00:24:01,024
Di Schiavi: I'm at the library
to see if I can find anything
386
00:24:01,025 --> 00:24:05,675
more about Todd's property
prior to it being a Sanitarium.
387
00:24:05,676 --> 00:24:11,576
I don't get any direct hits, but
one article catches my attention.
388
00:24:12,182 --> 00:24:17,317
It turns out a guy named Tony
Andrews originally built the place...
389
00:24:17,318 --> 00:24:20,798
But lost it in foreclosure.
390
00:24:21,823 --> 00:24:24,802
Now that I know the original owner
of the property was foreclosed on,
391
00:24:24,803 --> 00:24:27,731
I need to find out more
about this guy, Tony Andrews.
392
00:24:27,732 --> 00:24:30,181
I've contacted a local genealogist,
393
00:24:30,182 --> 00:24:36,082
who tells me losing the house was only
the beginning of this guy's tragic story.
394
00:24:41,346 --> 00:24:43,645
Donette, thanks for meeting
me, I appreciate that.
395
00:24:43,646 --> 00:24:45,811
This guy, Tony Andrews, what
can you tell me about him?
396
00:24:45,812 --> 00:24:49,195
Tony Andrews was from an
Italian immigrant family.
397
00:24:49,196 --> 00:24:50,953
- He's first generation.
- Okay.
398
00:24:50,954 --> 00:24:53,182
He had a lot of dreams.
He had a big ego.
399
00:24:53,183 --> 00:24:54,345
Okay.
400
00:24:54,346 --> 00:24:56,339
He met his beautiful wife, Della.
401
00:24:56,340 --> 00:25:02,240
She liked nice things, and he decided to
build her this beautiful, huge mansion.
402
00:25:02,381 --> 00:25:04,550
Okay, so, now, how did
he wind up losing it?
403
00:25:04,551 --> 00:25:06,201
He just overspent.
404
00:25:06,202 --> 00:25:08,704
- Okay, so, he lived way above his means.
- He did.
405
00:25:08,705 --> 00:25:12,505
He ended up making an agreement
with one of the neighbors,
406
00:25:12,506 --> 00:25:15,176
that if he could live on
a house on their property,
407
00:25:15,177 --> 00:25:17,596
that he would harvest their grapes.
408
00:25:17,597 --> 00:25:20,512
- What about his wife and kids?
- His wife and kids came with him.
409
00:25:20,513 --> 00:25:23,423
- Oh, so they all lived?
- They all lived in the small house.
410
00:25:23,424 --> 00:25:26,931
They went from their beautiful,
huge mansion to a small home.
411
00:25:26,932 --> 00:25:31,226
And they got room and board for
working the crops on the property.
412
00:25:31,227 --> 00:25:33,464
So, what ended up happening to Tony?
413
00:25:33,465 --> 00:25:35,654
He worked the vineyards
for a couple of years,
414
00:25:35,655 --> 00:25:37,516
and then, unfortunately, he passed away.
415
00:25:37,517 --> 00:25:42,339
He dies at age 36, and I found
his death record right here.
416
00:25:42,340 --> 00:25:44,751
- 36?
- 36 years old.
417
00:25:44,752 --> 00:25:47,800
What did he die of?
Cirrhosis of the liver?
418
00:25:47,801 --> 00:25:49,901
Correct.
419
00:25:52,483 --> 00:25:54,884
So, there's this little guy...
420
00:25:54,885 --> 00:25:59,505
And he says that he
rules the roost here.
421
00:26:04,095 --> 00:26:06,015
He...
422
00:26:06,435 --> 00:26:09,129
Is saddened by the state...
423
00:26:09,130 --> 00:26:11,329
Of this location.
424
00:26:11,330 --> 00:26:15,050
Because it was quite something.
425
00:26:15,217 --> 00:26:18,771
I feel like he was kind of forced...
426
00:26:18,772 --> 00:26:21,352
To let it go.
427
00:26:21,712 --> 00:26:24,461
It wasn't something he wanted to do.
428
00:26:24,462 --> 00:26:28,072
- Do you know when this was?
- I want to say 1920s.
429
00:26:28,073 --> 00:26:31,973
He never liked people being here.
430
00:26:33,142 --> 00:26:36,174
It's a violation of his privacy.
431
00:26:36,175 --> 00:26:40,579
He's just absolutely
disgusted about everything.
432
00:26:40,580 --> 00:26:45,920
I had this, like, really
bad, bad feeling about him.
433
00:27:08,719 --> 00:27:11,744
Di Schiavi: Now that Amy and I
have completed our investigations.
434
00:27:11,745 --> 00:27:16,824
We're ready to reveal our findings to our
clients and each other for the first time.
435
00:27:16,825 --> 00:27:18,571
Amy, I'd like you to meet Todd.
436
00:27:18,572 --> 00:27:21,011
He owns this mansion.
437
00:27:21,012 --> 00:27:23,448
This is his sister Glenda.
438
00:27:23,449 --> 00:27:27,624
She's had some bad experiences here, and
as far as she's concerned he should just...
439
00:27:27,625 --> 00:27:29,824
Cut his losses and sell the place.
440
00:27:29,825 --> 00:27:32,927
Todd's dream is to
turn this into a hotel.
441
00:27:32,928 --> 00:27:37,991
The activity's gotten so bad
here that he feels it's not safe.
442
00:27:37,992 --> 00:27:40,396
His dream is crumbling around him.
443
00:27:40,397 --> 00:27:42,602
So, with that being said,
I'm gonna turn it over to Amy,
444
00:27:42,603 --> 00:27:46,503
we're gonna hear about her walk.
445
00:27:49,292 --> 00:27:54,199
Allan: So, the first thing that
I want to start off with is that...
446
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,514
There was this guy outside.
447
00:27:56,515 --> 00:28:02,155
And he was telling me how
he once ruled the roost here.
448
00:28:02,508 --> 00:28:05,043
We were looking at the
outside of the structure,
449
00:28:05,044 --> 00:28:07,789
and he was saying how sad he was,
450
00:28:07,790 --> 00:28:11,895
that this used to be quite
something when he owned it.
451
00:28:11,896 --> 00:28:17,159
What I got was that he
lost this place in the '20s.
452
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:22,589
He was put in a position where he
had to sell it, he had to give it up.
453
00:28:22,590 --> 00:28:25,702
That makes a lot of sense. The
guy that built this place...
454
00:28:25,703 --> 00:28:28,531
Was a first-generation
Italian, Tony Andrews.
455
00:28:28,532 --> 00:28:32,029
And he wound up building
this place in 1922.
456
00:28:32,030 --> 00:28:35,257
You mentioned that he
got in over his head.
457
00:28:35,258 --> 00:28:40,102
Yeah, what happened was, the house
wound up getting foreclosed on in 1927.
458
00:28:40,103 --> 00:28:42,999
And the sad part is that,
when he did sell the house,
459
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:47,717
he had to go live on a very small bit
of a shack with his wife and two kids.
460
00:28:47,718 --> 00:28:51,056
He died young. He died at 36 years
old of cirrhosis of the liver.
461
00:28:51,057 --> 00:28:53,318
There's his death
certificate right here.
462
00:28:53,319 --> 00:28:55,958
The house foreclosed
in '27. He dies in 1929.
463
00:28:55,959 --> 00:28:57,544
- Wow.
- Wow.
464
00:28:57,545 --> 00:29:02,165
- Do you think that's who you saw?
- Yes.
465
00:29:05,869 --> 00:29:09,906
When I first walked in here, at
the top of the stairs, I see people.
466
00:29:09,907 --> 00:29:13,807
And their energy was not healthy.
467
00:29:16,469 --> 00:29:20,249
They were severely mentally ill.
468
00:29:20,271 --> 00:29:23,782
And they were crawling um...
469
00:29:23,783 --> 00:29:28,823
On the ceiling and down
the side of the stairs.
470
00:29:30,861 --> 00:29:35,872
The ones that were coming down the stairs
were very aggressive, very scary-looking.
471
00:29:35,873 --> 00:29:41,773
And it's almost like this chaos that's
within the mind is now their body.
472
00:29:44,363 --> 00:29:48,888
And some guys vomiting all over the
place, you know, it was pretty uh...
473
00:29:48,889 --> 00:29:50,675
Gross.
474
00:29:50,676 --> 00:29:54,717
You looked pretty upset when
she was talking about that.
475
00:29:54,718 --> 00:29:59,110
I'm sorry. I don't mean
to get so emotional, but...
476
00:29:59,111 --> 00:30:03,197
I don't know. I just...
it makes me sad to think...
477
00:30:03,198 --> 00:30:06,438
That they're like that.
478
00:30:10,601 --> 00:30:12,768
[ Sniffles ] I'm sorry.
479
00:30:12,769 --> 00:30:17,399
Well, maybe I can explain to
you what you might have seen.
480
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:22,353
When Andrews lost his house, it went
through various hands over the years.
481
00:30:22,354 --> 00:30:26,434
Around 1940, it became a Sanitarium.
482
00:30:28,284 --> 00:30:32,462
It housed a lot of elderly people,
and you mentioned about throwing up.
483
00:30:32,463 --> 00:30:35,235
- Now, they housed TB patients here.
- Oh.
484
00:30:35,236 --> 00:30:39,528
Matter of fact, I got
an ad from back then.
485
00:30:39,529 --> 00:30:43,789
This is from the beginning right here.
486
00:30:45,748 --> 00:30:48,370
One of the symptoms of
TB is coughing up blood.
487
00:30:48,371 --> 00:30:50,935
- Oh, my gosh.
- Once the TB subsided...
488
00:30:50,936 --> 00:30:56,319
They started bringing in mental
patients, schizophrenics...
489
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,990
All the things you mentioned were
the people that they housed here.
490
00:30:59,991 --> 00:31:05,443
I've had people come in here with me,
and out of nowhere, they have thrown up.
491
00:31:05,444 --> 00:31:07,923
Yeah, and I had a friend
that we were in here.
492
00:31:07,924 --> 00:31:12,561
Kind of went through the whole
house, and she got violently ill.
493
00:31:12,562 --> 00:31:16,105
Violently ill. She did throw
up. I took her to the hospital.
494
00:31:16,106 --> 00:31:19,940
She was in the hospital for
three days, and to this day...
495
00:31:19,941 --> 00:31:22,233
They don't know what was wrong with her.
496
00:31:22,234 --> 00:31:27,499
I did a sketch of a scene I
saw when I first walked in here.
497
00:31:27,500 --> 00:31:30,880
There were several dead lined up.
498
00:31:30,881 --> 00:31:32,970
They're very, very thin.
499
00:31:32,971 --> 00:31:36,245
And then I saw this man
shifting into this...
500
00:31:36,246 --> 00:31:40,086
Black thing on the second floor.
501
00:31:46,797 --> 00:31:51,117
It's creepy and sad at the same time.
502
00:31:51,501 --> 00:31:53,022
[ Gasps ]
503
00:31:53,023 --> 00:31:54,823
Oh.
504
00:31:57,674 --> 00:32:00,614
I don't like that.
505
00:32:07,851 --> 00:32:12,051
Todd: It gets me choked up because...
506
00:32:14,424 --> 00:32:18,984
It feels like there
are people everywhere.
507
00:32:26,665 --> 00:32:28,318
What else did you see on your walk?
508
00:32:28,319 --> 00:32:31,919
I saw a lot of mistreatment.
509
00:32:32,415 --> 00:32:37,285
And there was a woman who was
being held down and beaten.
510
00:32:37,286 --> 00:32:41,366
And I saw in the kitchen another...
511
00:32:41,855 --> 00:32:43,863
Patient having his head beat in.
512
00:32:43,864 --> 00:32:45,852
[ Gasps ]
513
00:32:45,853 --> 00:32:47,622
I talked to the County Coroner.
514
00:32:47,623 --> 00:32:50,024
During the time when this
place was run as a Sanitarium,
515
00:32:50,025 --> 00:32:52,394
he said the conditions
here were horrible.
516
00:32:52,395 --> 00:32:56,473
People naked laying on the floor.
They chained people to toilets.
517
00:32:56,474 --> 00:32:59,568
You know, they did electroshock
therapy, even some lobotomy.
518
00:32:59,569 --> 00:33:01,810
- Oh, geez.
- Some of the treatment that happened.
519
00:33:01,811 --> 00:33:05,595
I just can't believe that this
place was actually utilized that way.
520
00:33:05,596 --> 00:33:10,436
It's funny you say that because
it wasn't only just this house.
521
00:33:10,437 --> 00:33:12,896
There used to be a structure
here that housed mental patients,
522
00:33:12,897 --> 00:33:15,284
and Todd had it knocked
down five years ago.
523
00:33:15,285 --> 00:33:20,265
We had big trucks come
in and bulldozers and...
524
00:33:20,470 --> 00:33:23,441
Smash everything up and haul it away.
525
00:33:23,442 --> 00:33:26,397
But activity started increasing and,
526
00:33:26,398 --> 00:33:29,950
people started experiencing a lot more
things in here, in the mansion itself.
527
00:33:29,951 --> 00:33:31,811
Wow.
528
00:33:33,274 --> 00:33:37,174
The next thing I saw was creepy.
529
00:33:37,507 --> 00:33:40,627
I was upstairs, and...
530
00:33:41,085 --> 00:33:45,137
There are these two
people, a man and a woman.
531
00:33:45,138 --> 00:33:47,916
And they were standing in the hallway.
532
00:33:47,917 --> 00:33:52,565
They kept repeating
that they did a good job.
533
00:33:52,566 --> 00:33:56,806
They were, like, almost
trying to convince themselves.
534
00:33:56,807 --> 00:34:00,763
I felt that they were liars
because there was all of this death,
535
00:34:00,764 --> 00:34:06,016
and mistreatment around me
and it was just really...
536
00:34:06,017 --> 00:34:08,089
Disgusting.
537
00:34:08,090 --> 00:34:09,546
Di Schiavi: That's interesting.
538
00:34:09,547 --> 00:34:13,771
Let me tell you about a couple
of people that ran this place.
539
00:34:13,772 --> 00:34:17,216
Carl Lamoreaux was in
charge from '73 to '85.
540
00:34:17,217 --> 00:34:19,711
I ran through some records in the attic.
541
00:34:19,712 --> 00:34:23,322
There's stacks here of complaints.
542
00:34:23,323 --> 00:34:26,705
Lamoreaux's name is all over
all the paperwork up there.
543
00:34:26,706 --> 00:34:29,993
Now, prior to that, before
Lamoreaux came into the picture...
544
00:34:29,994 --> 00:34:32,749
- You mentioned a woman.
- Mm-hmm.
545
00:34:32,750 --> 00:34:35,922
There was also a woman
named Gladys Brashears.
546
00:34:35,923 --> 00:34:40,475
Gladys Brashears ran this place for 40
years during the worst time of its abuse.
547
00:34:40,476 --> 00:34:43,430
She sold this place to Lamoreaux in '73.
548
00:34:43,431 --> 00:34:49,331
He passes away here in this
building in '85 at the age of 57.
549
00:34:52,339 --> 00:34:55,310
This is his death certificate.
550
00:34:55,311 --> 00:34:58,251
- Hmm.
- Todd: Wow.
551
00:35:01,545 --> 00:35:03,984
So, what else did you see?
552
00:35:03,985 --> 00:35:06,786
So, then, I went into the basement...
553
00:35:06,787 --> 00:35:10,207
And I saw lots of bodies.
554
00:35:11,141 --> 00:35:13,094
They were being rotated.
555
00:35:13,095 --> 00:35:18,345
Like, bodies were coming and going, coming
and going, and they were trying to leave.
556
00:35:18,346 --> 00:35:24,246
And they were, like, confused and
trying to reach out to get help.
557
00:35:25,396 --> 00:35:28,717
When they reach out, though, would they
reach out to us, like, living people?
558
00:35:28,718 --> 00:35:31,048
They're trying to, yes.
559
00:35:31,049 --> 00:35:33,436
You constantly get
touched when you're here.
560
00:35:33,437 --> 00:35:36,517
Down there, always, mm-hmm.
561
00:35:36,518 --> 00:35:38,202
Now, why her?
562
00:35:38,203 --> 00:35:43,089
They'll reach out to whomever
they think can hear, feel, see.
563
00:35:43,090 --> 00:35:46,517
So, you're probably a
sensitive in some respects.
564
00:35:46,518 --> 00:35:47,639
[ Sighs ]
565
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,506
I think I can explain the
bodies in the basement.
566
00:35:50,507 --> 00:35:55,687
During the TB epidemic, it was
so bad, the bodies were piling up.
567
00:35:55,688 --> 00:35:58,472
They were dying, they'd
pile 'em in the basement.
568
00:35:58,473 --> 00:36:03,380
It could be five, six days before the
mortician would come for these bodies.
569
00:36:03,381 --> 00:36:09,281
The other thing I got was, I'm
feeling fear from the living here.
570
00:36:09,578 --> 00:36:12,304
Over many, many years...
571
00:36:12,305 --> 00:36:16,625
The living have left their fear behind.
572
00:36:18,212 --> 00:36:19,779
And it's not healthy.
573
00:36:19,780 --> 00:36:23,320
I mean, it's tangible fear.
574
00:36:24,797 --> 00:36:28,702
I got that there are
sensitives walking the place.
575
00:36:28,703 --> 00:36:31,283
I got seances.
576
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,637
People trying to communicate
with the dead here.
577
00:36:35,638 --> 00:36:39,838
Unfortunately, when that happens, it...
578
00:36:40,138 --> 00:36:42,598
Leaves scars.
579
00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:47,063
I'm gonna call you on
the carpet now, all right?
580
00:36:47,064 --> 00:36:50,519
Why don't you tell Amy what you've
done to make money in this place,
581
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:55,338
to turn this into a
dream hotel for yourself?
582
00:36:55,339 --> 00:36:58,667
Well, when I first bought the
property, my goal was to...
583
00:36:58,668 --> 00:37:02,970
Eventually make it into a hotel, a
beautiful place, but in the meantime...
584
00:37:02,971 --> 00:37:06,931
I had a Halloween attraction here.
585
00:37:08,305 --> 00:37:11,392
So, over the 21/2 weeks that
we were open for 8 years...
586
00:37:11,393 --> 00:37:16,433
- Over 30,000 people came through.
- Holy [Bleep]
587
00:37:16,570 --> 00:37:19,362
Why don't you explain to her how
many paranormal investigations...
588
00:37:19,363 --> 00:37:22,497
A lot of paranormal investigators
have come in over the years.
589
00:37:22,498 --> 00:37:24,494
You told me at least 100
teams came through here.
590
00:37:24,495 --> 00:37:27,361
Oh, yeah, absolutely, mm-hmm.
591
00:37:27,362 --> 00:37:32,737
And my ultimate goal would be to completely
refurbish it back to a beautiful home.
592
00:37:32,738 --> 00:37:35,473
- And pass it down to my son.
- Mm-hmm.
593
00:37:35,474 --> 00:37:40,470
And have it opened up for the
public to come in and stay the night.
594
00:37:40,471 --> 00:37:43,231
As a nice hotel?
595
00:37:43,374 --> 00:37:46,509
- As a nice hotel.
- Not a haunted hotel?
596
00:37:46,510 --> 00:37:50,954
Well, if people have an experience
in here, I can't control that.
597
00:37:50,955 --> 00:37:54,951
But if people do want to
come in here, it's up to them.
598
00:37:54,952 --> 00:37:59,872
But would you advertise
it as a haunted hotel?
599
00:38:18,808 --> 00:38:22,976
If people have an experience
in here, I can't control that.
600
00:38:22,977 --> 00:38:26,919
But if people do want to
come in here, it's up to them.
601
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:31,840
But would you advertise
it as a haunted hotel?
602
00:38:37,309 --> 00:38:39,169
Yes.
603
00:38:41,568 --> 00:38:45,120
How would you like to die
and be tormented and stuck?
604
00:38:45,121 --> 00:38:48,463
Think of the most [Bleep]
that happened in your life.
605
00:38:48,464 --> 00:38:53,208
The worst [Bleep] you've ever been through,
and you're reliving that every single day.
606
00:38:53,209 --> 00:38:57,112
And now you're gonna be
[Bleep] with through eternity.
607
00:38:57,113 --> 00:38:58,724
Really think about that.
608
00:38:58,725 --> 00:39:02,361
I'm just saying, it bothers me.
609
00:39:02,362 --> 00:39:06,658
You know, like I said, when I walk in, I
say hello, I have respect for what's here.
610
00:39:06,659 --> 00:39:08,970
And so you should.
611
00:39:08,971 --> 00:39:12,007
Because you have a lot
of dead people here.
612
00:39:12,008 --> 00:39:15,548
And most of them want help.
613
00:39:15,632 --> 00:39:18,982
They are kind of at their wits' end.
614
00:39:18,983 --> 00:39:23,160
They're going to really
start to become aggressive.
615
00:39:23,161 --> 00:39:27,001
I ain't coming back here, Todd.
616
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,010
Di Schiavi: Well, Todd, you've seen
the results of the investigation,
617
00:39:33,011 --> 00:39:35,396
and what we came up with.
618
00:39:35,397 --> 00:39:39,344
You still caused a lot of the problems
here, but the big question is...
619
00:39:39,345 --> 00:39:44,520
Can you turn this place into
the dream hotel that you want to?
620
00:39:44,521 --> 00:39:50,421
I can't answer that, but hopefully
Amy can give you some answers.
621
00:39:51,444 --> 00:39:54,564
You need to provide...
622
00:39:55,195 --> 00:39:59,455
Counseling for the dead that are here.
623
00:39:59,622 --> 00:40:05,297
It would be great if you can
find a transpersonal psychologist.
624
00:40:05,298 --> 00:40:09,096
Allan: Transpersonal psychologists are
trained to deal with the mentally ill.
625
00:40:09,097 --> 00:40:10,743
And a lot of them are sensitives,
626
00:40:10,744 --> 00:40:14,506
so they should be able to
help with the people here.
627
00:40:14,507 --> 00:40:17,962
Unfortunately, for the ones who
don't respond to treatment...
628
00:40:17,963 --> 00:40:22,001
These are probably going to be the more
aggressive individuals that are here.
629
00:40:22,002 --> 00:40:27,240
And they'll have to be probably
more aggressively moved out.
630
00:40:27,241 --> 00:40:30,894
How do you aggressively get
rid of the rest of the dead?
631
00:40:30,895 --> 00:40:34,915
Exorcism would be the way I'd go.
632
00:40:35,070 --> 00:40:37,647
They're not human anymore.
633
00:40:37,648 --> 00:40:43,034
The exorcism would knock those
suckers right out of here.
634
00:40:43,035 --> 00:40:46,635
I mean, these are sociopaths.
635
00:40:46,690 --> 00:40:49,510
These are killers.
636
00:40:49,613 --> 00:40:52,055
Well, it sounds like you have
all intentions of not listening,
637
00:40:52,056 --> 00:40:55,776
and making it a haunted hotel.
638
00:40:57,393 --> 00:40:59,493
Correct.
639
00:41:01,571 --> 00:41:06,190
Since you're gonna list this as a
haunted bed-and-breakfast or whatever.
640
00:41:06,191 --> 00:41:11,540
If you do that, the people that
stay here do it at their own risk.
641
00:41:11,541 --> 00:41:15,405
Also let them know that the
dead that are still here,
642
00:41:15,406 --> 00:41:18,946
at that time are aggressive.
643
00:41:19,235 --> 00:41:21,386
You're putting yourself at risk.
644
00:41:21,387 --> 00:41:24,929
I'm just gonna tell ya, you are.
645
00:41:24,930 --> 00:41:29,791
And the guests who stay
here will be at risk.
646
00:41:29,792 --> 00:41:35,692
Now, would you at least follow Amy's
advice before you open the hotel?
647
00:41:36,979 --> 00:41:39,259
Absolutely.
648
00:41:40,860 --> 00:41:44,459
Di Schiavi: I appreciate that Todd was
honest about opening a haunted hotel.
649
00:41:44,460 --> 00:41:47,224
But that doesn't mean we're gonna
lead people to the front door.
650
00:41:47,225 --> 00:41:51,626
If you really want to help him torment the
dead, I'm sure you can find his location.
651
00:41:51,627 --> 00:41:56,576
But you're gonna have to
deal with the consequences.
652
00:41:56,577 --> 00:42:02,477
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