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Subs created by: David Coleman.
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There's a lot of
frickin' dead people here.
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We just get that creepy feeling.
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You feel it.
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He was evil.
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He's missing his whole face.
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He was found guilty.
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- They lost everything?
- They lost everything.
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There's a hole in my head. [Bleep]
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I want the answers.
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This is not good.
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Could this be dangerous?
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There is an unhealthy
attachment to the dead.
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They're being watched.
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My name is Amy Allan.
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This thing likes death.
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I see dead people.
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This thing's, like, a monster.
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I speak to dead people...
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And he's pissed off now.
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And they speak to me...
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His head was cracked.
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But there's only one way to
know if my findings are real.
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This guy was murdered.
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I rely on my partner...
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I'm Steve Di Schiavi. I'm a retired
New York City homicide Detective...
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I cannot help you unless
I know the whole story.
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And I know every person,
every house has secrets.
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You saw her?
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It's my job to reveal them.
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Why would you stay here?
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But Steve and I never speak...
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We never communicate
during an investigation.
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Until the very end.
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[ Echoing ] Stop it.
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We uncover if it's
safe for you to stay...
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I want to know the truth. I
want to know what's happening.
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Or time to get out.
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[ Crying ] I told you there
were ghosts in this house.
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Di Schiavi: Amy and I work
independently of one another.
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I interview witnesses and research
the history of the location.
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To see if there's anything
unusual about its past.
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While Amy communicates with the dead.
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I'm in Rock Island, Illinois,
a few hours West of Chicago.
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I'm on my way to meet
with a woman named Melissa,
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who says she and her
4 year old daughter
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are being terrorized
by spirits in the house.
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She sounds pretty bad, and
I'm hoping Amy and I can help.
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Anderson: Before Amy arrives, I have to
clear the area of any leading information.
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This house contains a
lot of family photographs.
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So it's important I remove
them, along with the kids' names.
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To avoid influencing her findings.
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Allan: There's a lot of
frickin' dead people here...
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Very, very negative.
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There's, like, people under the trees.
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There's also this other
really creepy dude.
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He wears a cloak, and...
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He's missing pretty much his whole face.
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He works with these people
in the trees, though.
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They're, like, underlings for him.
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He wants to get rid of living people.
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So, Melissa, I understand that you
and your four year old daughter,
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are having problems in the house.
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- Yes.
- Okay. Who else lives here?
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My husband, Mike, and our
7 year old son, Nathan.
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And how long you living here?
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We've lived here about five years.
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So, what kind of things
are you experiencing?
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We're seeing apparitions, shadows.
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Our daughter, Madison... we
want her to not be afraid.
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We want her to have a normal childhood.
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What's going on with her?
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She would wake up in the
middle of the night screaming,
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that a little girl was in her bed.
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What about Nathan?
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He mentioned that there was one time
he was coming up the basement stairs.
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And it felt like someone
grabbed the back of his shirt,
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and was trying to pull
him down the stairs.
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Now, when did things
kind of pick up here?
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When we moved in, I was pregnant with
my son Noah and Nathan was about 2.
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And um, I noticed...
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Um, a shadow in the basement.
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Okay. You said your son
Noah. You didn't mention Noah.
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Yeah, I was pregnant with
Noah when we bought the house.
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He passed pretty much right
away after he was born.
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Oh, I'm sorry to hear that.
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There's two people here who are mediums.
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One of them is extremely developed.
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It might be a child.
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[ Child laughs ]
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This living person is
very attracted to death.
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They want it around.
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I think there's family members that
this person's held onto or friends.
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Unhealthy attachment to the dead.
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This is the room that I and my
son feel most uncomfortable in.
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We just get that creepy feeling.
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I feel like I'm being watched down here.
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And we've heard footsteps above us.
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Has anybody else heard it besides you?
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Yes. When we've had friends
over, they have heard it.
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I don't like it, and it's like when I
go up the stairs to go back upstairs...
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It's almost like if you were
being chased up the stairs,
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how you want to hurry
up and get to the top.
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That's how I feel.
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The people from the trees, they
do have to [Bleep] with people.
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Because they do have
to follow the orders.
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The cloaked man who's in
control of the dead from outside
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sends them into the basement
to torment the living.
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I think it's his mission to
have this house destroyed.
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Some of them don't have legs.
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I saw one, like, pulling,
pulling on the person's leg.
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I know that the living person's scared.
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They should be, because
these things are not good.
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This is where most of her experiences,
if not all of them, happen.
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She would wake up almost nightly
between 3:00 and 3:30 A.M.
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And she would be screaming and crying,
there's a little girl in my bed!
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Okay. Now, does she say
the girl is threatening her?
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She says she wants to play with her.
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She says, the little girl wants to play,
and I don't want to play with her, mom.
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She wakes up in the middle
of the night, crying um...
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Just blood-curdling scream
that there are guys in her ears.
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And she'll say that sometimes it
sounds like a whoosh, whoosh, whoosh.
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I don't like being in here by myself.
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So I don't really blame her
for not wanting to be in here.
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By herself at night.
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Mm-mm. No, no, no.
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They just come in...
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Solid-ass dead people. Like,
they present themselves.
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It's a thing they do to mediums.
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If they're doing that,
then the kid is advanced.
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So, what's going on in here?
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This is actually where Madison
was sleeping with me one night.
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She wasn't feeling well, and she was
talking about the man under the bed.
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Which bed... this one?
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This bed, and, actually,
there is no under the bed.
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- What do you mean?
- The mattress sits pretty low.
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You got about this
much room under there.
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Right. And so, I decided to give
her a piece of paper and a crayon,
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and I asked her to draw me the picture.
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And she drew a circle with a frowny
face and red circles all over its face.
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- Do you have that picture?
- I don't still have that picture.
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Anything else in this room?
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This is also where I experienced what
felt like someone sit on the bed...
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And I actually felt the bed...
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Like this, like someone sitting there...
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Okay.
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And I looked and there was
nobody there, and I'm like,
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well, maybe I just felt something,
and then I felt the bed lift.
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- When this happened, were you sleeping?
- No, I was not asleep yet.
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I was laying there,
trying to fall asleep.
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The dead in here...
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Are from out there.
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They are the people from the
trees, and so many come in.
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Anderson: What are they trying to do?
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Hurt them.
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Di Schiavi: Mike, I spoke
with your wife, Melissa.
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It seemed obvious that your
daughter was her biggest concern.
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That's the biggest concern
for me is my daughter...
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And Melissa has always told me
things that have happened to her,
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and I haven't seen it myself, so for
me, it was hard for me to believe...
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Right.
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But now that the daughter's in the
picture, telling me kind of the same stuff,
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I tend to believe Madison
because she's so small.
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Have you had any experiences?
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- I've had one here in Madison's room.
- Explain that one to me.
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It was actually this
shopping cart right here.
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And the shopping cart was actually in
the middle of the room, like this...
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Okay.
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Loaded up with toys, and Madison woke up
screaming and pointed at the shopping cart.
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Did you ask her what
she was screaming about?
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I just assumed that she wanted
it back by her bed again,
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so at that point I just said, all
right. Put it right here next to you.
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Must've been probably a half-hour
later... I was back in bed again myself.
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She woke up screaming, shrieks.
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Okay.
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And then I came back in here,
and this rug was in the middle
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of the floor and the cart was
turned and pushed to about here.
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- What happened? Did she push it?
- Well, that was my first thought.
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I'm like, you know,
she just pushed it away,
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but then if she just pushed it away,
why would she be screaming about it?
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She didn't tell me that
anybody had pushed it.
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She didn't tell me that
anybody took it away from her.
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She was just screaming,
pointing at that cart that moved.
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Now, Mike, after this incident
happened, the stuff you can't explain,
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are you a skeptic, not a
skeptic? What's your story?
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It opened my eyes is what it did.
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Okay.
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Allan: There's a disturbance.
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I hear things moving...
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Like, chairs moving...
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Mm, maybe a little bit of a poltergeist.
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Yeah, and stuff happens in here...
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Poltergeist [Bleep] you know?
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Poltergeists are usually
created unintentionally,
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when someone with abilities
represses intense negative emotions.
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These powerful forces can
interact with the physical world,
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and in some cases, harm living people.
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Do you have any idea
who it's coming from?
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- Allan: I want to say a female.
- Okay.
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The living person doesn't know how to
release their [Bleep] emotions properly.
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Anything that could be dangerous?
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Yes.
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Di Schiavi: Mike, I know you're
probably at your wits' end with this,
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but what are you hoping we can help
you out with this investigation?
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I just want my kids to feel comfortable
and safe everywhere in our house.
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Nathan is not really comfortable
going in the basement by himself.
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Melissa is not real comfortable
with the attic at all.
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- The attic?
- Right.
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- She didn't mention the attic.
- There's an attic out here in the hallway.
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- Can you show me?
- Yeah.
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Di Schiavi: What's the story? Why
does Melissa not like going up here?
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Just kind of a dark, creepy thing.
She's just not real comfortable.
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I don't think she's
ever been up here once.
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Right, and do you know
much about the house?
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I know it was built back in the '40s.
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Before there was a house on the
land, it was owned by John Looney,
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and he was a gangster back in
the '20s to '40s in Rock Island.
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Okay. Let me ask you a
question, though, Mike.
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If at the end of our investigation Amy
turns around and says, you know what?
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You can't fix this. You got to get
out of this house, what would you do?
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That would be hard for me.
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You know, as the husband
and the father of the house,
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I want to be able to find the answers,
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to stop my daughter from screaming
in the middle of the night.
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So I'm hoping having you guys out here,
we'll be able to find some sort of answer.
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Okay.
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A lot of the people that
are in the kids' area...
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They kind of live up
here or hang out up here.
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But they all kind of work together.
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And they died in
various ways and places.
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[ Sighs ]
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[Bleep] This is not good.
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So, Nathan, I was talking
to mom and dad before.
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They told me that you've been
experiencing some stuff in the house here?
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- Uh-huh.
- Explain that to me.
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I was in my bed, looking at the closet.
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I saw, like, a gray
shadow running across it.
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- Which closet... the one outside?
- Over there.
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- Can you make out what it was?
- It was kind of a person shadow.
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- All right. So, did that scare you?
- It scared me a lot.
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Just tried not to think
of it and have a nightmare.
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- Okay. Did you tell anybody about it?
- No, I haven't yet.
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You haven't? Okay.
244
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So, anything else happen?
245
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I felt someone trying
to pull me downstairs.
246
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- Down in the basement?
- Mm-hmm.
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- How?
- Like, grabbing onto my shirt.
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Di Schiavi: I've been lied
to by seasoned sociopaths,
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and I can always see through their
lies, so when I'm talking to a kid,
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I know when they're telling
me the truth, and this one is.
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Are you scared to be at home?
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Yes.
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Allan: The ones that are coming in
here, they can get kind of nasty.
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They more look like shadows...
255
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But they, like, are
up against the walls.
256
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Two groups of dead people
are roaming this structure...
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The ones presenting themselves
to the mediums who live here.
258
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And the ones crawling across the floors
of the basement and Master Bedroom.
259
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They have one thing in common...
they both have bad intentions.
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Is there anything else these
people can do to the living?
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You see them out of the corner
of your eye, but you feel them.
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What will these things eventually do?
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Well, they can kill.
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Di Schiavi: Mike told me that
a mobster used to own his land,
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so I made some calls, and
it turns out he's right.
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Going to meet with a local author who
says a guy by the name of John Looney
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used to run a bloody empire right
off of Mike and Melissa's property.
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Di Schiavi: So, you wrote this book
about Looney, and from what I understand,
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he actually owned the property
that I'm investigating.
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- Is that correct?
- That's correct.
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This is John Looney about the
time he came to Rock Island.
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In the late 1800s...
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He met a woman named Nora O'Connor.
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They got married, and they
had two daughters and a son.
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Okay.
276
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But about 1903, his wife dies.
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And after she left...
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He spiraled downward
into this life of crime.
279
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He was involved in gambling, moonshine.
280
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He was involved in prostitution.
281
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This is Looney from sort
of the height of his power.
282
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How powerful did this guy get?
283
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Well, he basically controlled the town.
284
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People were very afraid of him.
285
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Basically if there was something
going on in town that was illegal,
286
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Looney was involved with it.
287
00:17:58,170 --> 00:18:00,300
Okay. Now, I assume
he was a violent man.
288
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Well, we know that a lot of people died,
289
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and Looney had people on his payroll who
were, you know, basically paid hit men.
290
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Do we know if he ever buried
any bodies on the property?
291
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Just the fact that he
had, you know, this large,
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piece of land with nobody living
around it, the opportunity existed.
293
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Allan: There's, like,
a family out there...
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You know, like, a mother, a father,
I think like two or three kids.
295
00:18:34,885 --> 00:18:39,505
But their father...
he's kind of freaky...
296
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Kind of creepy-looking, too...
297
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Dressed all in black.
298
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I'm getting something
about dirty dealings.
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What does he do?
300
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He's, like, burying bodies.
301
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Ruthart: So, it was about 1922 and
Looney's empire started to fall apart.
302
00:19:05,049 --> 00:19:06,382
In what way?
303
00:19:06,383 --> 00:19:09,853
There had been a big split
in Looney's organization.
304
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Some of his former lieutenants
who'd formed their own gang
305
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basically set up a hit on Looney.
306
00:19:14,892 --> 00:19:17,435
They didn't get him,
but they got his son.
307
00:19:17,436 --> 00:19:19,372
Was he there when the son got shot?
308
00:19:19,373 --> 00:19:21,287
- Yes.
- He was?
309
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Basically they pulled up
in front of this hotel.
310
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Looney was going in to get some
papers, and these other guys pull up...
311
00:19:27,204 --> 00:19:31,074
Or they jump out and open fire,
and Looney runs for the hotel,
312
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goes up on the second floor,
and starts firing back,
313
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but the son gets shot down on the
sidewalk before he ever got to the door.
314
00:19:37,409 --> 00:19:41,969
And eventually dies
later at the hospital.
315
00:19:50,294 --> 00:19:54,063
Uh-oh. I just got a nasty headache.
316
00:19:54,064 --> 00:19:58,324
And someone's yelling about a gunshot.
317
00:19:59,347 --> 00:20:02,638
I do feel like there's
a hole in my head.
318
00:20:02,639 --> 00:20:04,679
[Bleep]
319
00:20:05,276 --> 00:20:07,436
[ Gasps ]
320
00:20:07,577 --> 00:20:11,247
There's, like, blood and then confusion.
321
00:20:11,248 --> 00:20:15,268
Like, I don't know if they lived.
322
00:20:15,719 --> 00:20:19,773
After his son was murdered,
things just sort of fell apart.
323
00:20:19,774 --> 00:20:22,865
The city leaders started to shut
down the gambling parlors and the
324
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hotels and the houses of prostitution
and started arresting people.
325
00:20:26,313 --> 00:20:29,032
And when the whole
house of cards fell in,
326
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the Feds went after
him and he was arrested.
327
00:20:32,106 --> 00:20:35,738
And then subsequently, they
filed murder charges against him
328
00:20:35,739 --> 00:20:38,874
for the murder of a local
bar owner named Bill Gabel,
329
00:20:38,875 --> 00:20:43,255
who refused to pay him protection money.
330
00:20:43,952 --> 00:20:46,144
He was eventually found guilty.
331
00:20:46,145 --> 00:20:49,919
He ended up sentenced to 14 years
for the murder and served 8 of it.
332
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,066
Where did he wind up when
he came out of prison?
333
00:20:52,067 --> 00:20:54,414
Well, his daughter picks him
up at the prison gate and,
334
00:20:54,415 --> 00:20:57,097
he goes to live with her
and her husband in Texas.
335
00:20:57,098 --> 00:21:02,631
And he's there about eight years, and then
he ends up dying from a lung condition.
336
00:21:02,632 --> 00:21:04,570
And how old was he when he died?
337
00:21:04,571 --> 00:21:07,511
He was 75 in 1942.
338
00:21:08,064 --> 00:21:09,984
Okay.
339
00:21:17,022 --> 00:21:19,191
This guy dressed all in black...
340
00:21:19,192 --> 00:21:23,512
He's probably, like, in his early 70s.
341
00:21:23,730 --> 00:21:27,266
He's fairly recent... he's
fairly recently dead or something.
342
00:21:27,267 --> 00:21:30,201
But I keep seeing these
bodies all over the place.
343
00:21:30,202 --> 00:21:34,841
He's, like, digging them and just
throwing them in the ground, you know?
344
00:21:34,842 --> 00:21:37,362
[ Man laughs ]
345
00:21:37,548 --> 00:21:40,033
Nobody likes him.
346
00:21:40,034 --> 00:21:42,494
He was evil.
347
00:21:43,492 --> 00:21:48,352
He definitely was not
involved in good things.
348
00:22:02,140 --> 00:22:04,681
Di Schiavi: I'm at the library
to see if anyone else of interest
349
00:22:04,682 --> 00:22:08,017
owned my clients' property
before John Looney.
350
00:22:08,018 --> 00:22:11,280
Digging through the archives, I
discover a man named Sam Bowles,
351
00:22:11,281 --> 00:22:14,424
who lived on the property in
the 1800s with his wife, Eliza.
352
00:22:14,425 --> 00:22:18,433
But what really caught my attention is
the headline surrounding their marriage.
353
00:22:18,434 --> 00:22:22,571
Turns out Eliza went to the newspapers
to make their troubles public.
354
00:22:22,572 --> 00:22:26,232
Claiming her husband beat her.
355
00:22:27,104 --> 00:22:29,273
I'm no expert on the 19th century,
356
00:22:29,274 --> 00:22:32,176
but I don't think it was real common
for women to go to the newspaper,
357
00:22:32,177 --> 00:22:34,347
claiming their husbands abused them.
358
00:22:34,348 --> 00:22:36,506
I'm on my way to meet
with a local historian
359
00:22:36,507 --> 00:22:41,487
who promises to tell me
the rest of the story.
360
00:22:47,124 --> 00:22:50,196
I thought it strange that
in 1886, a woman would
361
00:22:50,197 --> 00:22:52,329
actually go to the paper
about domestic violence.
362
00:22:52,330 --> 00:22:53,961
That wasn't common back then, was it?
363
00:22:53,962 --> 00:22:55,961
- No, absolutely not.
- Okay.
364
00:22:55,962 --> 00:22:57,890
Domestic violence was a
taboo subject back then.
365
00:22:57,891 --> 00:22:59,932
You typically didn't read
about it in the newspaper,
366
00:22:59,933 --> 00:23:02,124
and you wouldn't have talked
to your family about it.
367
00:23:02,125 --> 00:23:05,938
Now, Bobbi, you mentioned on the phone that
there was a little bit more to the story.
368
00:23:05,939 --> 00:23:11,839
One week after that was published in
the newspaper, Eliza died of a stroke.
369
00:23:13,580 --> 00:23:14,847
Do you know if she was sick?
370
00:23:14,848 --> 00:23:17,540
No, she wasn't. It was a sudden death.
371
00:23:17,541 --> 00:23:19,771
Okay. Did they have any
children, the two of them?
372
00:23:19,772 --> 00:23:24,512
Yes, they actually had
one daughter, Telitha.
373
00:23:26,626 --> 00:23:29,088
She was born in 1861.
374
00:23:29,089 --> 00:23:31,497
Okay, now, what kind of guy was Samuel?
375
00:23:31,498 --> 00:23:33,911
He was a very prominent
man in his community.
376
00:23:33,912 --> 00:23:38,282
He actually had built them a school, a
church, and a cemetery for its citizens.
377
00:23:38,283 --> 00:23:40,507
So, Bobbi, what ended up
happening with this guy?
378
00:23:40,508 --> 00:23:43,082
He actually died in 1893.
379
00:23:43,083 --> 00:23:46,192
And Telitha inherited his estate.
380
00:23:46,193 --> 00:23:48,000
She sold it off piece by piece,
381
00:23:48,001 --> 00:23:53,461
and eventually the last
piece was sold to John Looney.
382
00:23:55,355 --> 00:23:58,895
Allan: I'm seeing a female.
383
00:24:01,027 --> 00:24:04,747
She is kind of prissy, uppity.
384
00:24:05,031 --> 00:24:09,626
She's wearing a very lacy
dress, comes all the way up.
385
00:24:09,627 --> 00:24:15,087
I think that her parents
might have died pretty young.
386
00:24:18,494 --> 00:24:23,675
And she's disgusted by the
people she's surrounded by.
387
00:24:23,676 --> 00:24:26,195
This house is crawling with dead people.
388
00:24:26,196 --> 00:24:30,833
And what has me disturbed is their
attraction to the children's rooms.
389
00:24:30,834 --> 00:24:33,626
She's just very...
390
00:24:33,627 --> 00:24:35,787
Advanced.
391
00:24:38,381 --> 00:24:41,734
Di Schiavi: During my research, I also
discovered that before Samuel Bowles,
392
00:24:41,735 --> 00:24:46,896
Native Americans lived all over
what's now my clients' property.
393
00:24:46,897 --> 00:24:49,555
In this part of the country,
that's no big surprise.
394
00:24:49,556 --> 00:24:52,878
But when I called the local Curator
of the Native American museum,
395
00:24:52,879 --> 00:24:58,779
she said that what went down
there may be helpful to my case.
396
00:25:05,003 --> 00:25:07,021
So, I understand the
property I'm investigating
397
00:25:07,022 --> 00:25:08,661
used to be Native American territory?
398
00:25:08,662 --> 00:25:11,149
- That's correct.
- Okay. What can you tell me about it?
399
00:25:11,150 --> 00:25:16,019
Well, the last tribe of Indians to inhabit
that area were the Sauk Nation of Indians,
400
00:25:16,020 --> 00:25:20,717
and they were here from about
1735 and was about 5,000 people.
401
00:25:20,718 --> 00:25:22,908
Okay, so, what happened
with the Indians there?
402
00:25:22,909 --> 00:25:26,879
They lost their land to the
American government in 1804,
403
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,430
but only about two-thirds of
the tribe was willing to go.
404
00:25:30,431 --> 00:25:34,653
About one-third of the tribe, that
was led by the warrior Black Hawk.
405
00:25:34,654 --> 00:25:37,456
Refused to leave the
land of their ancestors.
406
00:25:37,457 --> 00:25:42,077
Black Hawk said, I'll
die before I leave.
407
00:25:43,129 --> 00:25:47,933
But one of their spokesmen
was a man named Keokuk...
408
00:25:47,934 --> 00:25:52,254
Who was very friendly to the Americans.
409
00:25:52,331 --> 00:25:55,540
He was able to convince his own people,
410
00:25:55,541 --> 00:25:58,190
that there was no point in
fighting the American government
411
00:25:58,191 --> 00:26:00,846
and it was better to just
move as they were told.
412
00:26:00,847 --> 00:26:03,851
What about the people that didn't
support him, how did they feel about him?
413
00:26:03,852 --> 00:26:06,419
Well, they felt that he was a coward...
414
00:26:06,420 --> 00:26:08,854
A traitor to their nation.
415
00:26:08,855 --> 00:26:12,966
Black Hawk felt nothing
but disdain for him.
416
00:26:12,967 --> 00:26:17,763
So, the people that sided with Keokuk,
did they prosper with the deal he made?
417
00:26:17,764 --> 00:26:20,702
Well, no, they were
removed over into Iowa...
418
00:26:20,703 --> 00:26:23,637
And told that they
could live there forever.
419
00:26:23,638 --> 00:26:27,439
But within 10 years of
this promise, they're gone.
420
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:32,240
- They lost everything?
- They lost everything.
421
00:26:34,199 --> 00:26:39,815
I'm seeing this leader guy
again, who's wearing a cloak.
422
00:26:39,816 --> 00:26:45,160
And he says, they're still our
territories and we still watch over them.
423
00:26:45,161 --> 00:26:48,191
But when he was alive, he screwed up.
424
00:26:48,192 --> 00:26:51,493
He wasn't doing his job.
425
00:26:51,494 --> 00:26:54,111
He says that everybody who's come since
426
00:26:54,112 --> 00:26:58,834
has just [Bleep] everything
up and destroyed it.
427
00:26:58,835 --> 00:27:03,094
He feels justified as far
as wreaking havoc on people.
428
00:27:03,095 --> 00:27:04,935
What does he do?
429
00:27:04,936 --> 00:27:10,836
Basically whatever needs to be done,
but he sends his people in to do it.
430
00:27:13,405 --> 00:27:14,888
What do you mean?
431
00:27:14,889 --> 00:27:19,269
The people that he puts in the trees...
432
00:27:19,692 --> 00:27:21,941
Were from his time...
433
00:27:21,942 --> 00:27:24,762
Like 17-something.
434
00:27:27,601 --> 00:27:31,673
When he sends people into the house...
435
00:27:31,674 --> 00:27:34,794
Why is he doing that?
436
00:27:36,677 --> 00:27:41,657
That's him trying to
get rid of this building.
437
00:28:06,151 --> 00:28:09,873
Di Schiavi: Now that Amy and I
have completed our investigations.
438
00:28:09,874 --> 00:28:15,774
We're ready to reveal our findings to each
other and our clients for the first time.
439
00:28:16,228 --> 00:28:18,435
Mike and Melissa have
been here about five years.
440
00:28:18,436 --> 00:28:21,991
Melissa's had experiences
from the minute they came here.
441
00:28:21,992 --> 00:28:23,835
They have two beautiful children,
442
00:28:23,836 --> 00:28:26,738
and one of their kids is
having a very tough time here.
443
00:28:26,739 --> 00:28:30,347
Waking up in the middle of the night,
screaming, crying. She's afraid to be here.
444
00:28:30,348 --> 00:28:34,161
So they're concerned if their kids
can live here in a safe environment,
445
00:28:34,162 --> 00:28:36,810
and that's why they called us in.
446
00:28:36,811 --> 00:28:39,946
With that, I'm gonna have Amy
start to talk about her walk.
447
00:28:39,947 --> 00:28:42,417
Allan: I immediately get
the sense that someone here
448
00:28:42,418 --> 00:28:45,219
is contributing to what's
happening in this house.
449
00:28:45,220 --> 00:28:49,245
But I can also tell they're not
emotionally ready to hear it yet.
450
00:28:49,246 --> 00:28:52,579
One of the first people that
I encountered was a male.
451
00:28:52,580 --> 00:28:55,119
He's not a good guy.
452
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:56,697
He was dressed all in black.
453
00:28:56,698 --> 00:28:59,599
I did get that while he was
alive, he was particularly evil.
454
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,770
And he definitely was not
involved in anything good.
455
00:29:03,771 --> 00:29:06,072
Who do you guys think it sounds like?
456
00:29:06,073 --> 00:29:07,996
- John Looney.
- John Looney?
457
00:29:07,997 --> 00:29:13,152
John Looney was a gangster that
owned this property back in the 1920s.
458
00:29:13,153 --> 00:29:17,450
He was involved in everything...
prostitution, gambling, bootlegging.
459
00:29:17,451 --> 00:29:21,289
He was supposedly very ruthless...
got convicted of murder.
460
00:29:21,290 --> 00:29:25,292
He was suspected in
many, many more deaths.
461
00:29:25,293 --> 00:29:28,928
There's pictures of him here.
462
00:29:28,929 --> 00:29:31,269
Interesting.
463
00:29:38,272 --> 00:29:43,169
I think his reason for buying the property
up here was because it was perfect for...
464
00:29:43,170 --> 00:29:46,145
- Burying bodies... great.
- Burying bodies.
465
00:29:46,146 --> 00:29:48,674
Now, you think the guy you saw was him?
466
00:29:48,675 --> 00:29:51,735
Looks like him, yeah.
467
00:29:54,255 --> 00:29:56,221
What else did you see?
468
00:29:56,222 --> 00:30:01,528
Well, then I saw something out
back which was pretty freaky.
469
00:30:01,529 --> 00:30:04,747
Under the trees are all these people.
470
00:30:04,748 --> 00:30:09,488
And all of them used
to live on this land.
471
00:30:09,637 --> 00:30:12,710
And their leader was
this man who came up.
472
00:30:12,711 --> 00:30:16,610
He walked up, and he
was wearing a dark cloak.
473
00:30:16,611 --> 00:30:22,511
And I got that this guy was from
a very long time ago, like 1700s.
474
00:30:22,757 --> 00:30:28,035
He feels that his job was to be
in charge of a large territory.
475
00:30:28,036 --> 00:30:31,847
And he screwed up. He
just made a big mistake.
476
00:30:31,848 --> 00:30:34,464
And now that he's dead he,
477
00:30:34,465 --> 00:30:38,626
does an incredible job of
watching his territories...
478
00:30:38,627 --> 00:30:41,447
Psychotically too well.
479
00:30:41,448 --> 00:30:42,856
It's interesting you say that.
480
00:30:42,857 --> 00:30:47,798
There was a tribe of Indians called the
Sauk Nation that inhabited your land.
481
00:30:47,799 --> 00:30:50,877
There was an Indian
by the name of Keokuk.
482
00:30:50,878 --> 00:30:53,925
And when the white men came,
he kind of appeased them...
483
00:30:53,926 --> 00:30:56,528
And kind of played
both sides of the coin.
484
00:30:56,529 --> 00:31:02,429
He basically sold out the whole Indian
nation here and had them displaced.
485
00:31:02,743 --> 00:31:05,383
This is Keokuk.
486
00:31:08,262 --> 00:31:13,374
Even to this day, that tribe
feels he sold the whole tribe out.
487
00:31:13,375 --> 00:31:19,275
Well, it kind of makes sense, because what
this person wants is the house to be gone.
488
00:31:21,418 --> 00:31:25,033
He said he's not the only one
who watches this territory.
489
00:31:25,034 --> 00:31:28,782
He'll send other people to,
like, take care of business.
490
00:31:28,783 --> 00:31:31,194
Now, did you see any of those
people inside this house?
491
00:31:31,195 --> 00:31:34,400
There was a lot of them
in The Master Bedroom.
492
00:31:34,401 --> 00:31:38,591
On the floor, around the bed basically.
493
00:31:38,592 --> 00:31:40,092
Some of them can't walk.
494
00:31:40,093 --> 00:31:45,264
Some of them can only crawl
or, like, pull themselves.
495
00:31:45,265 --> 00:31:47,970
Tell Amy about Madison, what she saw.
496
00:31:47,971 --> 00:31:50,014
Melissa: She was sleeping
with me in bed one night.
497
00:31:50,015 --> 00:31:53,973
She said she didn't want to go to
sleep because of the man under the bed.
498
00:31:53,974 --> 00:31:56,176
And I said, well, there's
no man under the bed.
499
00:31:56,177 --> 00:31:59,740
And she goes, yes,
mommy, he's under there.
500
00:31:59,741 --> 00:32:02,267
And then she got down
and looked under the bed,
501
00:32:02,268 --> 00:32:04,364
and I said, see, there's
no one under there.
502
00:32:04,365 --> 00:32:07,851
She started pointing, and she
said, mommy, he's right there.
503
00:32:07,852 --> 00:32:11,053
That thing with the bed... you had told
me about you were laying in bed alone.
504
00:32:11,054 --> 00:32:13,000
- Mm-hmm.
- Tell Amy about that, too.
505
00:32:13,001 --> 00:32:17,059
Yeah, I had just gotten into bed, and
I felt somebody sit down on the bed,
506
00:32:17,060 --> 00:32:20,196
so I turned to look and
there's nothing there.
507
00:32:20,197 --> 00:32:24,042
And then I felt it... whatever
it was... get up off the bed.
508
00:32:24,043 --> 00:32:26,845
Would that have been what you were
talking about in The Master Bedroom?
509
00:32:26,846 --> 00:32:29,813
- Doing that to the bed?
- Um, probably not.
510
00:32:29,814 --> 00:32:32,814
That's probably him.
511
00:32:35,813 --> 00:32:39,053
I just got goose bumps.
512
00:32:40,736 --> 00:32:42,766
So, what else is going on?
513
00:32:42,767 --> 00:32:45,812
Then I went down to the basement.
514
00:32:45,813 --> 00:32:49,039
And uh, I saw some of
the specific dead people
515
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:53,643
that I think were sent
to destroy your house.
516
00:32:53,644 --> 00:32:58,014
They're all naked, they're all in
different levels of decomposition.
517
00:32:58,015 --> 00:33:00,349
And I think two of them want help.
518
00:33:00,350 --> 00:33:04,487
I actually saw somebody
doing laundry, a female.
519
00:33:04,488 --> 00:33:09,559
This was a living person, and one
of them was crawling on the floor.
520
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,576
And was actually trying to
grab the person's pant leg.
521
00:33:13,577 --> 00:33:17,774
Yeah, there's something
about that laundry room.
522
00:33:17,775 --> 00:33:21,330
I feel like I'm always being watched.
523
00:33:21,331 --> 00:33:24,734
Nathan had another incident in the
basement here, going up the stairs.
524
00:33:24,735 --> 00:33:26,309
Tell Amy about that.
525
00:33:26,310 --> 00:33:30,726
He was walking up the stairs, and then he
felt a little tug on the back of his shirt.
526
00:33:30,727 --> 00:33:32,223
Okay. Interesting.
527
00:33:32,224 --> 00:33:34,985
And do you think this would be one
of these people that tugged on him?
528
00:33:34,986 --> 00:33:36,846
Yes.
529
00:33:37,638 --> 00:33:39,923
Let me ask you something. You
said you saw a living woman?
530
00:33:39,924 --> 00:33:42,663
- That's what you saw?
- Mm-hmm. Well, I sketched it.
531
00:33:42,664 --> 00:33:45,148
- You sketched that scene you saw?
- Yes.
532
00:33:45,149 --> 00:33:47,549
She's gray.
533
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,660
Her hair is all kind of wet.
534
00:33:52,662 --> 00:33:56,742
Her legs are kind of bent sideways.
535
00:34:03,705 --> 00:34:06,645
Wow. That's creepy.
536
00:34:09,073 --> 00:34:10,933
Wow.
537
00:34:18,796 --> 00:34:21,052
- That's pretty scary.
- It's sad.
538
00:34:21,053 --> 00:34:25,313
It's just so uneasy for me in there.
539
00:34:27,432 --> 00:34:32,592
Maybe this person is
reaching out to me for help.
540
00:34:33,085 --> 00:34:35,945
Why would they be reaching
out to Melissa for help?
541
00:34:35,946 --> 00:34:39,047
I did get that there was someone
here who brings in the dead.
542
00:34:39,048 --> 00:34:42,059
There is a female who they
think is a medium here.
543
00:34:42,060 --> 00:34:47,220
So, when you are a medium, dead people
are attracted to you who want help.
544
00:34:47,221 --> 00:34:51,523
And I did get that this individual doesn't
quite know what to do with this ability.
545
00:34:51,524 --> 00:34:55,353
There is a slight unhealthy
attraction to death.
546
00:34:55,354 --> 00:34:57,647
Like an obsession with it.
547
00:34:57,648 --> 00:35:01,746
It's dangerous because
there's a fine line there.
548
00:35:01,747 --> 00:35:07,267
And a lot of the dead here
can inadvertently harm you.
549
00:35:25,421 --> 00:35:31,026
Allan: I did get that there was
someone here who brings in the dead.
550
00:35:31,027 --> 00:35:36,927
There is a slight unhealthy attraction
to death, like an obsession with it.
551
00:35:38,150 --> 00:35:44,050
It's dangerous, and a lot of the
dead here can inadvertently harm you.
552
00:35:46,626 --> 00:35:49,711
Well, when I first started
interviewing Melissa,
553
00:35:49,712 --> 00:35:54,067
she had told me that she's had
experiences since she was a kid.
554
00:35:54,068 --> 00:35:56,954
I always felt like I had
had psychic abilities,
555
00:35:56,955 --> 00:36:01,752
but I had never really been
afraid of my experiences.
556
00:36:01,753 --> 00:36:02,785
Mm-hmm.
557
00:36:02,786 --> 00:36:06,899
Now that my daughter had been
really, really frightened.
558
00:36:06,900 --> 00:36:09,364
I was like, okay, there's
something going on,
559
00:36:09,365 --> 00:36:12,342
and we need to get this taken care of.
560
00:36:12,343 --> 00:36:14,904
Now, you believe this stuff gets
passed down through generations.
561
00:36:14,905 --> 00:36:16,360
Oh, absolutely, yeah.
562
00:36:16,361 --> 00:36:21,235
And the other thing was getting that there
was a child who's extremely open here.
563
00:36:21,236 --> 00:36:26,396
And very well developed,
which is very interesting.
564
00:36:26,518 --> 00:36:32,377
When I went into their bedroom,
the dead lined up and greeted me.
565
00:36:32,378 --> 00:36:34,322
It's a type of introduction.
566
00:36:34,323 --> 00:36:39,585
Usually this is, like, for, you
know, really advanced mediums.
567
00:36:39,586 --> 00:36:43,065
- So I was, like, shocked.
- And you saw this in Nathan's room?
568
00:36:43,066 --> 00:36:46,070
I don't know. It had
the bunk beds, I think.
569
00:36:46,071 --> 00:36:49,611
Yeah, that's Nathan's room.
570
00:36:49,730 --> 00:36:51,942
Allan: I feel like Mike and
Melissa have always known,
571
00:36:51,943 --> 00:36:54,042
that something wasn't
right in their home.
572
00:36:54,043 --> 00:36:57,011
They've just been too afraid
to admit it to each other.
573
00:36:57,012 --> 00:36:59,831
I think your daughter has
something going on, too.
574
00:36:59,832 --> 00:37:05,592
But right now, he is way more
advanced than your daughter.
575
00:37:06,258 --> 00:37:10,878
It makes sense, with
him not being afraid.
576
00:37:11,970 --> 00:37:14,162
This is Nathan.
577
00:37:14,163 --> 00:37:16,443
Aw. Cutie!
578
00:37:17,445 --> 00:37:21,705
Has anything traumatic happened to him?
579
00:37:23,573 --> 00:37:25,607
Nathan was about 2 years old.
580
00:37:25,608 --> 00:37:29,508
We had another son, named Noah...
581
00:37:29,633 --> 00:37:30,941
Okay.
582
00:37:30,942 --> 00:37:35,683
And he actually passed
away shortly after birth.
583
00:37:35,684 --> 00:37:37,738
I have Noah's picture.
Can I show that to Amy?
584
00:37:37,739 --> 00:37:40,555
- Is that all right?
- Sure.
585
00:37:40,556 --> 00:37:42,268
This is right before he passed.
586
00:37:42,269 --> 00:37:44,069
Aw.
587
00:37:49,265 --> 00:37:52,567
We knew something was wrong
halfway through the pregnancy.
588
00:37:52,568 --> 00:37:55,148
So, you guys were preparing
for this before, even.
589
00:37:55,149 --> 00:37:57,571
I never prepared for it.
590
00:37:57,572 --> 00:38:01,952
I didn't accept that he wouldn't live.
591
00:38:08,351 --> 00:38:11,520
Now that I know about Noah,
it all makes sense to me.
592
00:38:11,521 --> 00:38:17,421
So, the last thing was a little
bit of poltergeist going on here.
593
00:38:17,627 --> 00:38:19,894
I felt things were
sliding across the floor.
594
00:38:19,895 --> 00:38:24,334
I felt that the adult
medium won't let go,
595
00:38:24,335 --> 00:38:26,468
specifically to the family and friends.
596
00:38:26,469 --> 00:38:30,438
And this is kind of something
that is being held inside.
597
00:38:30,439 --> 00:38:34,363
And is coming out in this manner.
598
00:38:34,364 --> 00:38:37,672
And I think this person has some anger.
599
00:38:37,673 --> 00:38:41,873
And it's not being properly released.
600
00:38:44,220 --> 00:38:47,220
That sound like you?
601
00:38:57,300 --> 00:38:58,800
Sorry.
602
00:38:58,801 --> 00:39:01,141
It's okay.
603
00:39:03,794 --> 00:39:07,707
I've had other people tell me that...
604
00:39:07,708 --> 00:39:11,968
I haven't grieved properly for Noah...
605
00:39:12,228 --> 00:39:14,448
[Sniffles]
606
00:39:14,860 --> 00:39:17,860
So that makes sense.
607
00:39:19,088 --> 00:39:22,151
I can't think of um...
608
00:39:22,152 --> 00:39:26,232
Anything I've noticed, like, moving.
609
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,008
The one thing that I've found
unexplainable in this house
610
00:39:31,009 --> 00:39:33,186
since I've been living here is a,
611
00:39:33,187 --> 00:39:36,762
shopping cart that Madison has in
her room, a little toy shopping cart.
612
00:39:36,763 --> 00:39:41,513
It was parallel to her bed at one point,
full of toys, when she was younger.
613
00:39:41,514 --> 00:39:44,008
And she woke up screaming. I
came into her room, and it was
614
00:39:44,009 --> 00:39:45,835
- turned and in the middle of the room.
- Hmm.
615
00:39:45,836 --> 00:39:47,716
No way she could've pushed it there...
616
00:39:47,717 --> 00:39:48,761
Mm-hmm.
617
00:39:48,762 --> 00:39:51,906
And so I put it back, and then she woke
up screaming about a half-hour later,
618
00:39:51,907 --> 00:39:54,188
and it was, again, turned
and in the middle of the room.
619
00:39:54,189 --> 00:39:57,976
Interesting. That's
a pretty big movement.
620
00:39:57,977 --> 00:40:00,278
Di Schiavi: Could that
be from the poltergeist?
621
00:40:00,279 --> 00:40:02,139
Yes.
622
00:40:11,046 --> 00:40:13,213
Melissa, I know tonight
was pretty rough.
623
00:40:13,214 --> 00:40:17,376
You heard a lot of things that
you probably didn't want to hear.
624
00:40:17,377 --> 00:40:19,720
But the big question is your children.
625
00:40:19,721 --> 00:40:22,282
- Right.
- Is it safe for them to be raised here?
626
00:40:22,283 --> 00:40:27,083
With that, I'm gonna
turn that over to Amy.
627
00:40:31,559 --> 00:40:35,992
You have a lot of dead
around this location.
628
00:40:35,993 --> 00:40:39,165
So the first thing you need
to do is grief counseling.
629
00:40:39,166 --> 00:40:41,401
This is going to allow
you to let go of the dead
630
00:40:41,402 --> 00:40:44,837
and to process emotions
in a beneficial way.
631
00:40:44,838 --> 00:40:48,091
This will also help you
get rid of the poltergeist.
632
00:40:48,092 --> 00:40:52,099
For Nathan, something he should do
every night before he goes to bed,
633
00:40:52,100 --> 00:40:54,539
is to have him state that,
634
00:40:54,540 --> 00:40:59,124
he only allows the good dead and
guides to stand by him and help him.
635
00:40:59,125 --> 00:41:01,107
He has that power,
636
00:41:01,108 --> 00:41:06,327
and the good guides and the good dead are
going to be pushing the bad out, as well.
637
00:41:06,328 --> 00:41:10,948
- Will that get Looney out of here?
- Yes.
638
00:41:12,872 --> 00:41:16,735
The last thing is you
can go to the tribe...
639
00:41:16,736 --> 00:41:22,636
That Keokuk is from, and ask them
to do a ceremony in your backyard.
640
00:41:23,035 --> 00:41:28,315
To release him and the
people that he's imprisoned.
641
00:41:28,716 --> 00:41:30,357
I feel really good about it.
642
00:41:30,358 --> 00:41:34,331
I'm anxious to start
helping Nathan and...
643
00:41:34,332 --> 00:41:38,352
Get rid of these negative energies.
644
00:41:40,294 --> 00:41:42,925
We have a game plan now. For
me, I feel like a puzzle has
645
00:41:42,926 --> 00:41:45,131
been put together in front
of me, to be honest with you.
646
00:41:45,132 --> 00:41:46,800
But are you gonna follow Amy's advice?
647
00:41:46,801 --> 00:41:48,134
Definitely. Yeah.
648
00:41:48,135 --> 00:41:50,415
Absolutely.
649
00:41:52,573 --> 00:41:54,607
Allan: Melissa has a
lot of work ahead of her
650
00:41:54,608 --> 00:41:57,958
to rid her property of
the evil that resides here.
651
00:41:57,959 --> 00:42:01,383
But once she confronts her
past and follows my advice.
652
00:42:01,384 --> 00:42:05,017
I'm confident that her family
will be able to live in peace.
653
00:42:05,018 --> 00:42:06,886
[ Breath exhales ]
654
00:42:06,887 --> 00:42:09,587
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