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Allan: It's freaking creepy.
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- Is it dangerous?
- Yes.
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It's a matter of life or death.
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In this life, you think
you're being punished?
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That's what it feels like.
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I don't like this.
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Woman: This is what was on my leg.
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It was over there, and then it ran.
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And just all of a sudden went clang!
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This is the guy with the axe.
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He's crazy.
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Like, sociopathic.
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They're being watched.
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My name is Amy Allan.
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This thing likes death.
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I see dead people.
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This thing's, like, a monster.
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I speak to dead people.
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And he's pissed off now.
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And they speak to me.
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His head was cracked.
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But there's only one way to
know if my findings are real.
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This guy was murdered.
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I rely on my partner.
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I'm Steve Di Schiavi. I'm a retired
New York City homicide Detective.
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I cannot help you unless
I know the whole story.
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And I know every person,
every house has secrets.
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You saw her?
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It's my job to reveal them.
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Why would you stay here?
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But Steve and I never speak...
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We never communicate
during an investigation.
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Until the very end.
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[ Echoing ] Stop it.
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We uncover if it's safe for you to stay...
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I want to know the truth. I
want to know what's happening.
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Or time to get out.
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[ Crying ] I told you there
were ghosts in this house.
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Di Schiavi: Amy and I conduct
our investigations separately.
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I interview witnesses and research
the history of each location.
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While Amy communicates with the dead.
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At the end, we reveal our findings
to our clients and each other.
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I'm in Bloomington, Illinois, a
couple of hours outside of Chicago.
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I'm heading over to meet
with a mom named Diane.
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[ Birds chirping ]
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She told me on the phone that there's a lot
of weird things happening in her house.
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But the worst thing, the thing
that's keeping her up at night,
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is she thinks the spirits are targeting
her son, who has special needs.
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Let's see if Amy and I can help her out.
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Anderson: Before Amy arrives, I clear
the area of any leading information.
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You can tell a lot about
the occupants of a house
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from their photos and religious icons.
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I have to hide these items so
Amy isn't influenced by them.
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Allan: As I open to
communicate with the dead,
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I begin picking up on flashes
of death in the area,
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and one entity in particular
appears to be very dangerous.
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I saw this man with an axe.
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He smiles at me, and I feel sick.
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I said, hey, I'm here, you know,
if anybody wants to talk.
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Or tell your story.
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And they said, no, you're not.
You're here to get rid of us.
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And it sounded like a
young male and a girl.
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They think that I'm lying, that I'm
not here just to tell their story.
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I'm here to, like, get rid of
them, and that's not good.
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Di Schiavi: Okay, Diane,
so, what's going on?
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Ever since we built the house
about eight years ago.
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We've heard footsteps.
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We've seen apparitions.
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And it has began physically touching us.
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And that has me really concerned
because my son, Zach.
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Has muscular dystrophy.
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- Oh, geez. How old is he?
- He's 15.
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And it's left him using
a wheelchair full time.
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Okay, why are you calling us
in now, what's the story?
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It's gotten to the point where he's having
issues that doctors cannot explain,
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and also my health.
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Okay, in what way?
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Unfortunately, I've had
to have surgery twice,
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to deal with the pain that
I've been experiencing.
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Do you think it's something in the house
that may be causing the problems?
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I think it is.
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Can you show me some places in the house
where you've been experiencing things?
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Yes.
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I was getting ready to make
dinner, and I looked up.
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I saw an apparition.
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Okay, describe it to me.
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He appeared to be, like, a rancher
with a hat, work boots, cowboy boots.
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From what time period? You have any idea?
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I would guess the late 1800s.
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And one time, I was actually
pushed in this room.
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Pushed?
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Definitely felt a hand, and I was moved.
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Allan: I'm seeing this guy.
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The man from my opening with the axe.
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The man with the axe has
followed me into the house
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and is staring me down,
trying to intimidate me.
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I think he enjoys
tormenting the living here.
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Can you describe him?
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He's wearing a white...
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Long-sleeved shirt with two
buttons and suspenders.
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He's pretty solid.
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And usually, the solid ones are
more capable of interacting.
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He's crazy.
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Like, sociopathic.
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Ever since we moved in, anytime I've
been down here doing the laundry,
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I kind of catch something
on the corner of my eye.
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It looks like a dark figure, kind of short.
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Looks kind of like it
has maybe a hunchback.
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Just goes by real quickly.
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[ Voice breaking ] I saw it
today when I was down here.
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- It made me feel really sick.
- You okay? Yeah?
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Yeah. [ Sniffles ]
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If Amy tells you it's not safe for you
to be here, what are you gonna do?
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[ Sniffles ]
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I don't know what I'm gonna do.
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My son, he needs a lot
more care in this house.
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We have done everything to try
to make it adaptable for him,
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so it wouldn't be easy for us, you
know, just to simply pack up and move.
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It's a matter of life or death,
and I don't like to give up.
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So, I see this doll thing.
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It was over there, and then it ran.
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It, like...
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Went in here.
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And it's all black...
like, solid, solid black.
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The man with the axe and the
little doll thing are related,
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but I don't know how.
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I don't think it wants me to...
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Know what it is.
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Or where it came from or why
it's here or what it's doing.
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So it does have some kind
of consciousness to it.
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Is it dangerous at all?
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Yes.
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Okay, what's going on in here?
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I was actually scratched across my leg.
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Do you have animals in the house?
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We have a couple of cats, but these scratch
marks are larger than a cat's claw.
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This is what was on my leg.
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That's too big to be a cat.
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Okay, anything else going
on in the bedroom?
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Another time, I was lying in bed,
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and I heard footsteps
coming across the floor.
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And I felt a finger poke me.
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Were you laying in bed with
your husband or just you?
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No, it was just me.
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Is that all that's going
on, or you got more?
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No. [ Chuckles ]
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I heard someone whisper in my ear...
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I had a little bit less
than two years to live.
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- Male or a female?
- Female.
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- How long ago was that?
- A little bit less than two years ago.
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Like, I'm hearing a child's laughter.
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[ Child laughs ]
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I don't like it, you know?
It makes me uncomfortable.
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So, it's, like...
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This girl...
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She's developed a twisted sense of humor.
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And what she does is,
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like, crawling under the bed and
doing bad things under the bed,
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like coming up and out.
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[ Heart beating rapidly ]
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It's freaking creepy.
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Allan: I feel like someone is
having issues with the bed.
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This girl child...
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Is, like, crawling under the bed and
doing bad things under the bed,
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like coming up and out.
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It's freaking creepy.
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I don't like this. She's
wearing a little...
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Like, a little dress that
poufs out like that.
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And...
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I don't know if they see her like that.
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I see, like, more of like a mist.
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Very, yeah, creepy.
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So, Zach, I was talking with mom, and she
was telling me about some of the things
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that are going on in his house
since you guys moved in.
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Mm-hmm.
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So, what about yourself?
What are you experiencing?
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One night, I was laying in bed,
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and I saw these kids playing on the floor.
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- How old would you say they were?
- About 7.
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And then they looked up,
and they just vanished.
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Okay. What else are you experiencing?
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Uh well, one night, I heard someone
rummaging through the drawers,
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out in the kitchen.
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And I was scared, so I just sat in my bed.
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I was so scared. I thought
someone was in the house.
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- Nobody was in the kitchen?
- No.
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- Are you having trouble sleeping?
- Yeah.
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Normally, it takes like three
hours for me to go to sleep.
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- Are you hearing anything?
- Yeah, whispers.
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Like a female whisper.
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- And what is she saying?
- It's kind of mumbling.
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[ Whispering ] Something like
this, like, really quiet.
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Allan: This girl, she's young.
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Do you have any idea what...
what she's doing?
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She's messing with the people.
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So, it's like, you'd be in the
bed, and you would feel like
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there was something crawling
around under your bed.
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Then she likes to come up
out from under the bed.
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And go up the side and on it.
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This is creepy.
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Now, as far as the room goes,
what else are you experiencing?
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Some soldiers here.
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And where were they, just
standing in the room here?
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Yeah, they were standing and looking at me.
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And then they... one of
them started talking.
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He said, we'll be back.
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Like they were gonna come back to
see you again, what'd that mean?
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Like, not scare me but
come back after I die.
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Now, what do you think is causing all
these visions of you seeing these guys?
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I think I was previously...
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Uh, a soldier.
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Like, I was reincarnated as this
person for doing something bad.
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Now that you're in this life, you
think you're being punished?
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Yeah. That's what it feels like.
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You know Mark, talking to
Diane, she was saying that uh,
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she thinks that whatever's going on in the
house is affecting her and Zach physically.
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Um, how do you feel about all that?
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I've seen them in pain and
upset, and it's frustrating.
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Are you experiencing anything here?
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Just recently, I placed
those tubs over there.
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Like that blue one right there,
bent down to put it down,
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and that clear plastic container
falls off the shelf...
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And just all of a sudden went clang!
Lands right in front of my head.
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Was it top-heavy, anything
in it that made it...
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It was empty just like it is now.
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- Was the cat down here maybe?
- No.
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I have no idea how that could've happened.
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That's kind of like a violent act.
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I'm seeing that guy again.
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This is the guy with the axe.
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He looks at me, and he smiles.
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And I didn't get a good feeling from him.
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I think that he got murdered.
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And so he's angry.
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Not a good combination for some
dead person you want in your house.
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He's crazy..
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He... was a murderer.
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Di Schiavi: Now that I've
spoken to the witnesses,
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I need to find out what
was on Diane's property
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before the house was built
just eight 1/2 years ago.
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I'm heading over to meet
with a local historian,
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and I'm hoping he has some answers for me.
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The house I'm investigating,
it's only eight 1/2 years old.
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I was wondering if you could help me out
and tell me what was there before that.
246
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It was a farm, over 300 acres at
one time, owned by William King.
247
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Came from Pennsylvania with his first
wife and four children in 1836.
248
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And the Kings owned the farm
right up until the 1950s.
249
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What can you tell me about William
King himself, what kind of guy was he?
250
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He had built a house. He had
become a successful farmer.
251
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So, he had accomplished a great deal
252
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and probably thought he had much
more time to accomplish more.
253
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But he died on the farm
at the age of 41 years.
254
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It was a very tragic thing.
255
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Allan: The man with the axe, like, I don't
even know where this guy came from.
256
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Do you have any idea why he's here?
257
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I see him, like, working on the land.
258
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- Like, maybe he owned it.
- Okay.
259
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The weird thing is, now he's wearing
a suit, pants... nice pants.
260
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Like he's wealthy.
261
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And he's probably like in his 40s.
262
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Di Schiavi: So, he comes here with his
wife and four kids. How's life for them?
263
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They had a great many challenges here.
264
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At the age of 29, his first wife,
Amelia, died in childbirth.
265
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And two of his boys died
when they were young.
266
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Okay, so we can assume at least two of the
kids and Amelia died on the property.
267
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- Yes.
- Okay. Now, he remarries?
268
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He remarried, and they proceeded
to have many more children.
269
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Now, Bill, do you know
about any other deaths
270
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associated with the King
family on the property itself?
271
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Yes.
272
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William's son George,
273
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died under very strange
circumstances in the 1870s.
274
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Okay. How did he die?
275
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The paper which describes
the incident in some length
276
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doesn't really know why he died.
277
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Di Schiavi: Bill didn't know
too much about George's death,
278
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but I've tracked down a historian who does.
279
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So, I'm heading over to his farm to find
out what made this death so mysterious.
280
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George was 24, almost 25 when he died.
281
00:18:55,185 --> 00:18:59,804
He was kind of a wild kid. Uh,
he'd been a partyer, a drinker.
282
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Unlike his father, who was
a justice of the peace
283
00:19:02,308 --> 00:19:05,241
and active in the community
and very well-respected.
284
00:19:05,242 --> 00:19:08,593
Now, did George ever run the
farm or take over at any point?
285
00:19:08,594 --> 00:19:12,764
No. The farm went to Zephaniah,
his younger brother.
286
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Not George.
287
00:19:14,681 --> 00:19:18,608
This is the chain of deeds,
and George was never on it.
288
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Which is not common.
289
00:19:20,417 --> 00:19:23,475
No. Ordinarily, it would've
gone to the oldest
290
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son that was available to run the farm.
291
00:19:25,945 --> 00:19:30,505
But George was unreliable, and the family
depended on the farm for an income.
292
00:19:30,506 --> 00:19:33,561
And couldn't turn it over to
somebody they couldn't trust.
293
00:19:33,562 --> 00:19:35,482
Okay.
294
00:19:41,794 --> 00:19:43,954
[ Sighs ]
295
00:19:47,466 --> 00:19:50,101
There's these two men, and they're
yelling, they're yelling.
296
00:19:50,102 --> 00:19:53,404
They're fighting each other.
They're punching each other.
297
00:19:53,405 --> 00:19:57,005
And it's getting really bad.
298
00:19:59,011 --> 00:20:02,728
This one guy really, really
wants to see the other one dead
299
00:20:02,729 --> 00:20:07,910
because he's preventing him
from having what he wants.
300
00:20:07,911 --> 00:20:11,130
I think it's a land thing.
301
00:20:11,131 --> 00:20:13,191
Can you describe either of them at all?
302
00:20:13,192 --> 00:20:16,342
Well, one dude, he's
probably in his mid 20s,
303
00:20:16,343 --> 00:20:19,644
and he's got light brown eyes
and the blond hair and...
304
00:20:19,645 --> 00:20:23,365
Do you get any names on them?
305
00:20:23,593 --> 00:20:26,293
I get a George.
306
00:20:27,551 --> 00:20:32,285
But people don't like him because,
you know, he's [Bleep] crazy.
307
00:20:32,286 --> 00:20:35,276
Now, I heard that George
died kind of mysteriously.
308
00:20:35,277 --> 00:20:37,355
Do you know anything about that?
309
00:20:37,356 --> 00:20:41,136
I found this article from 1875.
310
00:20:42,006 --> 00:20:45,303
Apparently, George was over
at the house for dinner.
311
00:20:45,304 --> 00:20:48,877
He took a nap on the couch, and they saw he
was still asleep when it was time to eat,
312
00:20:48,878 --> 00:20:50,836
so they went ahead and ate without him.
313
00:20:50,837 --> 00:20:56,734
After dinner, they were all
outside, and a gunshot was heard.
314
00:20:56,735 --> 00:20:58,899
So they rushed into the
house, and there was George,
315
00:20:58,900 --> 00:21:01,344
laying there on the sofa
with a hole in his chest.
316
00:21:01,345 --> 00:21:03,330
- Okay, was he dead already?
- No.
317
00:21:03,331 --> 00:21:05,606
They revived him enough that he could talk,
318
00:21:05,607 --> 00:21:08,210
and he hold them it was...
it was an accident.
319
00:21:08,211 --> 00:21:13,282
He was exchanging his gun from his
pants pocket to his vest pocket.
320
00:21:13,283 --> 00:21:15,918
And it went off at that point.
321
00:21:15,919 --> 00:21:19,459
He died a short time later.
322
00:21:22,639 --> 00:21:26,966
Allan: They're fighting each other,
and I see the blood in the dirt,
323
00:21:26,967 --> 00:21:30,813
and there's dirt being
kicked up in a cloud.
324
00:21:30,814 --> 00:21:33,916
And everybody's like, oh, my God! Aah!
325
00:21:33,917 --> 00:21:36,544
Oh, no! You know, and freaking out.
326
00:21:36,545 --> 00:21:38,950
Do you know if either of
them were successful?
327
00:21:38,951 --> 00:21:43,468
I don't think that anybody
got killed in the fight.
328
00:21:43,469 --> 00:21:46,728
But I see, like, the blond.
329
00:21:46,729 --> 00:21:50,599
He's, like, in this little house.
330
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:54,920
And there's a table, like, to eat at.
331
00:21:57,441 --> 00:22:01,401
And I see him, like, in darkness.
332
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,448
And I hear the sound of a gun go off.
333
00:22:05,449 --> 00:22:06,748
[ Gunshot ]
334
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Dead.
335
00:22:17,497 --> 00:22:19,777
Di Schiavi: With five deaths
involving the King family,
336
00:22:19,778 --> 00:22:21,646
who lived on the property
I'm investigating,
337
00:22:21,647 --> 00:22:26,367
Diane's house might as
well sit in a graveyard.
338
00:22:26,368 --> 00:22:31,228
But I need to know if
there's anything else.
339
00:22:33,825 --> 00:22:35,164
Digging through the archives,
340
00:22:35,165 --> 00:22:41,065
I discovered that something called a poor
farm once operated right next to her home.
341
00:22:42,133 --> 00:22:46,867
But the records don't explain
what the hell a poor farm is.
342
00:22:46,868 --> 00:22:49,369
So, I'm on my way to meet
with a local archivist,
343
00:22:49,370 --> 00:22:55,270
who says it represents a very dark
chapter in Bloomington's history.
344
00:23:04,852 --> 00:23:09,436
A poor farm was an institution
run by the County,
345
00:23:09,437 --> 00:23:14,092
that would care for those who were
unable to care for themselves...
346
00:23:14,093 --> 00:23:17,745
The mentally ill, the
physically disabled...
347
00:23:17,746 --> 00:23:20,266
The uh, poor.
348
00:23:20,333 --> 00:23:26,233
Kind of those on the outside of society
where the social safety net had failed.
349
00:23:26,705 --> 00:23:29,446
We happen to have at the McLean
County Museum of History
350
00:23:29,447 --> 00:23:35,347
several photographs of the poor farm, and
here's one of the complex of buildings.
351
00:23:35,924 --> 00:23:37,257
Wow.
352
00:23:37,258 --> 00:23:42,428
The poor farm in McLean County
was established in 1859, 1860.
353
00:23:42,429 --> 00:23:45,666
What about deaths on the property?
Were there any reported deaths there?
354
00:23:45,667 --> 00:23:47,835
We do have a death and burial record.
355
00:23:47,836 --> 00:23:52,707
The Superintendent said there
were at least 173 known burials.
356
00:23:52,708 --> 00:23:58,608
And at least 300-plus others buried
on the site with no markers.
357
00:24:04,820 --> 00:24:07,235
There's, like...
358
00:24:07,236 --> 00:24:10,116
All these people...
359
00:24:11,317 --> 00:24:13,346
Like...
360
00:24:13,347 --> 00:24:16,947
Walking around back in there.
361
00:24:19,353 --> 00:24:22,893
Really poor, like, no money.
362
00:24:24,625 --> 00:24:30,196
I do feel like there's a place that
this is all coming from or something.
363
00:24:30,197 --> 00:24:33,388
Any idea what kind of time
frame this might be in?
364
00:24:33,389 --> 00:24:37,349
1880s to like 1910, I'm thinking.
365
00:24:41,308 --> 00:24:43,443
What were the conditions like?
366
00:24:43,444 --> 00:24:48,290
There was not really an attempt made to
rehabilitate or care for these people.
367
00:24:48,291 --> 00:24:49,104
Okay.
368
00:24:49,105 --> 00:24:52,318
So, they provided room and
board and little else.
369
00:24:52,319 --> 00:24:57,090
Local clergy would make appearances
on Sunday for church services.
370
00:24:57,091 --> 00:25:00,098
Local physicians would care for the people,
371
00:25:00,099 --> 00:25:03,462
provide some basic needs for these folks.
372
00:25:03,463 --> 00:25:09,341
In 1877, the Daily Pantagraph, which is
the longtime newspaper for Bloomington...
373
00:25:09,342 --> 00:25:12,913
A reporter went out there and
called the McLean County poor farm
374
00:25:12,914 --> 00:25:18,254
one of the saddest sights
that mortal eyes can view.
375
00:25:19,180 --> 00:25:22,348
In 1915, an Inspector with
the state of Illinois
376
00:25:22,349 --> 00:25:25,303
made an appearance at the
McLean County poor farm.
377
00:25:25,304 --> 00:25:28,735
And said that the livestock,
the cattle and hogs.
378
00:25:28,736 --> 00:25:34,636
Were better cared for and had
better housing than the inmates.
379
00:25:36,964 --> 00:25:40,167
Their clothes are all ripped up and stuff,
380
00:25:40,168 --> 00:25:43,103
and they don't have shoes, a lot of them.
381
00:25:43,104 --> 00:25:46,764
They're not carrying anything.
382
00:25:47,074 --> 00:25:51,578
I see, like, a big sign
that says, religion on it.
383
00:25:51,579 --> 00:25:57,044
There's, like, all these people
that are, like, coming out.
384
00:25:57,045 --> 00:26:00,820
And they're all, like, kind
of scared of something.
385
00:26:00,821 --> 00:26:04,469
- Like, unhinged is the word.
- What makes you say that?
386
00:26:04,470 --> 00:26:08,070
Because they're freaking out.
387
00:26:13,700 --> 00:26:18,268
During my walk, there were too many dead
people outside to focus on specific faces.
388
00:26:18,269 --> 00:26:20,510
So I'm concentrating on the dead girl,
389
00:26:20,511 --> 00:26:25,228
who wants to scare the living
by hiding under their beds.
390
00:26:25,229 --> 00:26:29,009
There's one person in the bed.
391
00:26:29,071 --> 00:26:32,552
Kind of in the middle of it.
392
00:26:32,553 --> 00:26:35,914
It's the person under a cover?
393
00:26:35,915 --> 00:26:39,194
This kind of sheet of...
394
00:26:39,195 --> 00:26:41,409
Like, gray mist.
395
00:26:41,410 --> 00:26:45,631
Is coming out from under the
bed, going up alongside the bed.
396
00:26:45,632 --> 00:26:50,072
And then going over the top of the bed.
397
00:26:52,606 --> 00:26:55,726
Is this what you saw?
398
00:26:57,261 --> 00:26:59,121
Yes.
399
00:27:21,404 --> 00:27:25,338
Di Schiavi: Now that Amy and I
have completed our investigations.
400
00:27:25,339 --> 00:27:29,864
We're going to reveal our findings to each
other and our clients for the first time.
401
00:27:29,865 --> 00:27:32,501
Mark, Diane, I want you
to meet my partner, Amy.
402
00:27:32,502 --> 00:27:35,270
They'd moved in here about
eight 1/2 years ago.
403
00:27:35,271 --> 00:27:39,019
They have a son, Zach, who
is confined to a wheelchair.
404
00:27:39,020 --> 00:27:42,021
And from the minute they moved in,
they've been experiencing things.
405
00:27:42,022 --> 00:27:45,314
But recently, it's gotten
a lot more active.
406
00:27:45,315 --> 00:27:49,357
Diane's health and even Zach's
health has been going downhill.
407
00:27:49,358 --> 00:27:52,944
And it's making their life
really hard for them here.
408
00:27:52,945 --> 00:27:55,837
They need to know if it's
safe to stay here or not.
409
00:27:55,838 --> 00:28:01,738
With that, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy
and see if she has some answers for you.
410
00:28:06,749 --> 00:28:10,418
Allan: Outside, there
were all of these people.
411
00:28:10,419 --> 00:28:13,947
They were kind of coming
unhinged about something.
412
00:28:13,948 --> 00:28:16,695
Um, they were extremely poor.
413
00:28:16,696 --> 00:28:20,128
And I got that this was like 100 years ago.
414
00:28:20,129 --> 00:28:24,499
It's interesting. Very close to where
we are was a thing called a poor farm.
415
00:28:24,500 --> 00:28:28,395
And it ran from 1850 into the 1950s.
416
00:28:28,396 --> 00:28:33,710
And this poor farm housed the mentally
ill, the disabled, homeless...
417
00:28:33,711 --> 00:28:37,791
Anybody that didn't fit in society.
418
00:28:37,886 --> 00:28:40,729
Here's what it looked like.
419
00:28:40,730 --> 00:28:45,841
And this is literally less
than a mile from where we are.
420
00:28:45,842 --> 00:28:50,608
The odd thing is, if they died,
they buried them on the land.
421
00:28:50,609 --> 00:28:55,703
I've got a list here of 173
people that are documented...
422
00:28:55,704 --> 00:28:58,944
Buried on this property.
423
00:29:01,048 --> 00:29:02,411
Wow.
424
00:29:02,412 --> 00:29:07,032
They estimate there's at least another 300.
425
00:29:08,100 --> 00:29:11,835
Do you think the people that
we're talking about here,
426
00:29:11,836 --> 00:29:15,581
that they are the lost people out here?
427
00:29:15,582 --> 00:29:19,662
There were people who were acting...
428
00:29:19,748 --> 00:29:21,851
Bizarrely.
429
00:29:21,852 --> 00:29:25,692
So, yes, I believe that's them.
430
00:29:32,733 --> 00:29:34,799
So, what else did you see?
431
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:39,000
I encountered a male who had an axe.
432
00:29:39,167 --> 00:29:42,527
And he had on suspenders.
433
00:29:42,534 --> 00:29:44,403
And a white shirt.
434
00:29:44,404 --> 00:29:47,686
But when I saw him in
here, he was in a suit.
435
00:29:47,687 --> 00:29:52,138
So, he seemed to be probably
a wealthier individual.
436
00:29:52,139 --> 00:29:55,223
The bad thing about him is
that he's absolutely crazy.
437
00:29:55,224 --> 00:29:57,434
I would say he's a sociopath.
438
00:29:57,435 --> 00:30:00,036
He looks at me, and he smiles.
439
00:30:00,037 --> 00:30:01,705
I didn't get a good feeling from him.
440
00:30:01,706 --> 00:30:03,544
He's angry.
441
00:30:03,545 --> 00:30:09,445
Not a good combination for some
dead person you want in your house.
442
00:30:09,946 --> 00:30:15,031
He's a very solid dead person, so
he knows how to manipulate energy,
443
00:30:15,032 --> 00:30:18,278
and he's able to manipulate
his surroundings.
444
00:30:18,279 --> 00:30:20,734
Why don't you tell her what
happened to you in the kitchen?
445
00:30:20,735 --> 00:30:24,586
I felt a definite shove on my hip.
446
00:30:24,587 --> 00:30:27,970
Like a push, like pushed out of the way.
447
00:30:27,971 --> 00:30:31,391
I was absolutely terrified.
448
00:30:32,982 --> 00:30:34,774
Wow.
449
00:30:34,775 --> 00:30:36,376
So, you said this guy was wealthy?
450
00:30:36,377 --> 00:30:38,064
Yes.
451
00:30:38,065 --> 00:30:42,566
Well, this house sits on what
was once a 350-acre farm.
452
00:30:42,567 --> 00:30:47,419
Owned by this guy William King,
who settled here in 1836.
453
00:30:47,420 --> 00:30:49,528
But the thing is, he
became wealthy from the
454
00:30:49,529 --> 00:30:52,692
land because this is
really good farmland here.
455
00:30:52,693 --> 00:30:55,212
- Now, you mentioned he was angry.
- Yes.
456
00:30:55,213 --> 00:30:59,074
Well, his wife Amelia died
at a very young age...
457
00:30:59,075 --> 00:31:03,515
- Oh, really?
- Of 29, giving childbirth.
458
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,769
And he suffered some more tragedy.
He lost two sons.
459
00:31:07,770 --> 00:31:09,931
They died on the property.
460
00:31:09,932 --> 00:31:11,773
Does that make any sense to you?
461
00:31:11,774 --> 00:31:14,128
I did get two children in the house.
462
00:31:14,129 --> 00:31:16,874
One is a girl, and one's a boy.
463
00:31:16,875 --> 00:31:20,279
And they were not excited to see me because
464
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,375
they knew that when I walked in the door,
465
00:31:22,376 --> 00:31:25,760
they were like, oh, you're
gonna get rid of us.
466
00:31:25,761 --> 00:31:28,704
I have sensed for years...
467
00:31:28,705 --> 00:31:31,818
That there is a child.
468
00:31:31,819 --> 00:31:34,579
Um, I could hear the little...
469
00:31:34,580 --> 00:31:36,038
- Footsteps.
- Mm-hmm.
470
00:31:36,039 --> 00:31:41,302
Come by me, next to me when I
was getting ready to go to bed.
471
00:31:41,303 --> 00:31:43,743
And Zach said kids were
playing with his trucks.
472
00:31:43,744 --> 00:31:45,973
He woke up. When he was real little.
473
00:31:45,974 --> 00:31:47,900
- Yeah.
- Two kids playing.
474
00:31:47,901 --> 00:31:51,049
He'd hear the wheels
squeaking on his truck.
475
00:31:51,050 --> 00:31:53,985
Yeah, the girl here is very active.
476
00:31:53,986 --> 00:31:57,944
She likes to hide under the beds.
This is her form of entertainment.
477
00:31:57,945 --> 00:32:03,765
She'll, like, want to crawl
up and get into bed with you.
478
00:32:04,379 --> 00:32:06,488
She's very touchy-feely.
479
00:32:06,489 --> 00:32:12,389
I do feel like there's something in our
bedroom when we're trying to sleep.
480
00:32:13,148 --> 00:32:15,050
Now, you mentioned touchy-feely.
481
00:32:15,051 --> 00:32:17,151
- Yes.
- She's been poked.
482
00:32:17,152 --> 00:32:21,193
It actually felt like it was something
that a kid would do to you.
483
00:32:21,194 --> 00:32:25,154
I felt a distinct tap on my leg.
484
00:32:25,723 --> 00:32:28,625
She's also had another
incident in the bedroom,
485
00:32:28,626 --> 00:32:33,006
which I want to show you a picture of.
486
00:32:33,631 --> 00:32:35,491
Wow.
487
00:32:35,566 --> 00:32:39,586
I felt... just a strange sensation.
488
00:32:39,796 --> 00:32:43,594
And I saw that, I about lost
my mind when I saw that.
489
00:32:43,595 --> 00:32:48,277
It frightens me because I was like, is
that evil, where did that come from?
490
00:32:48,278 --> 00:32:51,648
Let me ask you a question about getting
poked, do ya think that's this little girl?
491
00:32:51,649 --> 00:32:54,770
The poking, yeah. Definitely.
492
00:32:54,771 --> 00:32:57,656
But what about this?
493
00:32:57,657 --> 00:33:01,497
That actually could be your son.
494
00:33:02,871 --> 00:33:07,911
There's something called
spontaneous psychokinesis.
495
00:33:08,270 --> 00:33:13,560
Some people have a little bit
more energy than others.
496
00:33:13,561 --> 00:33:18,290
And occasionally, people can
influence their environment...
497
00:33:18,291 --> 00:33:19,819
Spontaneously.
498
00:33:19,820 --> 00:33:22,364
And it doesn't mean that
they're attacking anybody.
499
00:33:22,365 --> 00:33:26,037
It doesn't mean they're doing it on
purpose, it just means it's like...
500
00:33:26,038 --> 00:33:30,642
It's almost like a burst of
energy that just pops, okay?
501
00:33:30,643 --> 00:33:36,543
And so with any ability, you're going
to have experiences like this.
502
00:33:36,716 --> 00:33:38,717
And how old is your son?
503
00:33:38,718 --> 00:33:40,518
15.
504
00:33:40,887 --> 00:33:43,465
It can be hormonal.
505
00:33:43,466 --> 00:33:48,043
Usually, it's around children
who are, you know...
506
00:33:48,044 --> 00:33:50,264
Teenagers.
507
00:33:50,353 --> 00:33:54,193
Does Diane's son have abilities?
508
00:33:56,224 --> 00:33:58,351
Probably, yeah.
509
00:33:58,352 --> 00:34:01,232
Because Diane does.
510
00:34:02,089 --> 00:34:04,646
Mark: It's kind of strange,
the same night the scratches,
511
00:34:04,647 --> 00:34:06,644
we had to take Zach in the emergency room.
512
00:34:06,645 --> 00:34:08,717
He appeared to, like, have a seizure.
513
00:34:08,718 --> 00:34:12,022
If he's having seizures or something,
you know, around or following that,
514
00:34:12,023 --> 00:34:15,803
that could be a trigger signal.
515
00:34:17,019 --> 00:34:18,527
Allan: I've encountered this before.
516
00:34:18,528 --> 00:34:21,318
People who don't know they have
abilities can't control them,
517
00:34:21,319 --> 00:34:24,955
and sometimes their bodies can
react in unexplained ways.
518
00:34:24,956 --> 00:34:28,921
So, I did do a sketch of what I saw
519
00:34:28,922 --> 00:34:32,262
in The Master Bedroom with the girl.
520
00:34:32,263 --> 00:34:38,163
Di Schiavi: Okay. I don't get to
see Amy's sketches until now.
521
00:35:06,256 --> 00:35:09,807
I did do a sketch of what I saw,
522
00:35:09,808 --> 00:35:13,948
in The Master Bedroom with the girl.
523
00:35:26,772 --> 00:35:29,941
I see her, and she's crawling
around under the bed,
524
00:35:29,942 --> 00:35:35,842
but some people might see the mist
that's kind of emitted by her.
525
00:35:36,281 --> 00:35:39,941
That's usually where I sleep.
526
00:35:40,980 --> 00:35:43,170
What does she want?
527
00:35:43,171 --> 00:35:47,034
She's very bored and, like,
having fun, trying to have fun,
528
00:35:47,035 --> 00:35:50,995
and that's her fun, unfortunately.
529
00:35:51,904 --> 00:35:54,429
One night, I was trying to sleep.
530
00:35:54,430 --> 00:35:58,538
I heard a distinct whisper
right up against my ear.
531
00:35:58,539 --> 00:36:01,398
It was a female that said...
532
00:36:01,399 --> 00:36:06,235
"You have a little bit less
than two years to live".
533
00:36:06,236 --> 00:36:11,489
It was almost two years ago.
Now we're at that time.
534
00:36:11,490 --> 00:36:14,250
Am I the target?
535
00:36:14,499 --> 00:36:18,459
I think everyone in the house is.
536
00:36:26,701 --> 00:36:31,300
Di Schiavi: So, did you
encounter anything else?
537
00:36:31,301 --> 00:36:37,201
Down here in the basement, I
actually witnessed a huge fistfight.
538
00:36:37,407 --> 00:36:39,629
There was a male named George.
539
00:36:39,630 --> 00:36:41,634
He was in his 20s.
540
00:36:41,635 --> 00:36:44,487
Apparently, he had inherited land,
541
00:36:44,488 --> 00:36:47,272
and him and this other dead
guy were in a fistfight.
542
00:36:47,273 --> 00:36:51,409
Because the other guy wanted
to take this land from...
543
00:36:51,410 --> 00:36:54,170
This kid, George.
544
00:36:54,453 --> 00:36:58,999
And then I see the young guy
George in a small house.
545
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,155
And then I heard a gunshot.
546
00:37:01,156 --> 00:37:04,128
And I think George...
547
00:37:04,129 --> 00:37:06,469
Was killed.
548
00:37:07,895 --> 00:37:10,375
I got to tell you something
this is the most amazing,
549
00:37:10,376 --> 00:37:13,399
thing I've heard as far
as, like, nailing it.
550
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,569
William King, who settled
here, had a son named George.
551
00:37:16,570 --> 00:37:18,159
Oh.
552
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,805
Now, William died pretty young.
553
00:37:20,806 --> 00:37:26,706
And George was the oldest available son
that should've been taking over the farm.
554
00:37:26,950 --> 00:37:28,807
But he didn't get it.
555
00:37:28,808 --> 00:37:31,205
It went, actually, to his younger brother.
556
00:37:31,206 --> 00:37:34,846
I can only assume that
he had to feel slighted.
557
00:37:34,847 --> 00:37:39,455
And been pissed off that
he didn't get property.
558
00:37:39,456 --> 00:37:42,851
But he was a drunk in town,
always partying and,
559
00:37:42,852 --> 00:37:46,338
because he was such an irresponsible
24-year-old for the time,
560
00:37:46,339 --> 00:37:48,416
they didn't want to give it to him.
561
00:37:48,417 --> 00:37:51,965
Now, George came here to
the farm, to the house.
562
00:37:51,966 --> 00:37:54,133
He went inside to lie down.
563
00:37:54,134 --> 00:37:56,637
He took his pistol that he carried...
564
00:37:56,638 --> 00:38:01,609
A four-shot pistol... took it from his
pocket, and transferred it into his vest.
565
00:38:01,610 --> 00:38:05,450
And he accidentally shot himself.
566
00:38:12,170 --> 00:38:18,043
The next thing that I ran into
was this weird, little, like...
567
00:38:18,044 --> 00:38:21,584
I kept calling it the doll.
568
00:38:22,083 --> 00:38:26,073
It's all dark. It's,
like, made of darkness.
569
00:38:26,074 --> 00:38:30,678
It's somehow attached to
the guy with the axe.
570
00:38:30,679 --> 00:38:34,085
It's a part of him. It's
very, very negative.
571
00:38:34,086 --> 00:38:39,240
I was trying to connect with
it, and I saw it, and then...
572
00:38:39,241 --> 00:38:43,141
It ran into the wall over there.
573
00:38:45,190 --> 00:38:47,506
That is amazing.
574
00:38:47,507 --> 00:38:49,427
What?
575
00:38:49,657 --> 00:38:54,060
I kept seeing something out of the
corner of my eye from the laundry area.
576
00:38:54,061 --> 00:38:59,461
It shoots straight out of,
like, the wall over there.
577
00:39:01,736 --> 00:39:04,721
It was a solid, black
mass, but it was small.
578
00:39:04,722 --> 00:39:07,938
- It was like 3 feet tall maybe.
- Yeah.
579
00:39:07,939 --> 00:39:13,264
It's this little thing that the axe
man created that can do his bidding.
580
00:39:13,265 --> 00:39:17,243
If he wants to do something,
he would work through it.
581
00:39:17,244 --> 00:39:21,131
So, it's here all the time, but he's not.
See, he comes and goes.
582
00:39:21,132 --> 00:39:25,771
His thing is to make people nuts
like him, because he's crazy.
583
00:39:25,772 --> 00:39:31,033
And so he would want to, like,
torture and drive you nuts.
584
00:39:31,034 --> 00:39:32,613
And that's no way to live.
585
00:39:32,614 --> 00:39:36,286
No, we don't need some creepy guy or...
586
00:39:36,287 --> 00:39:39,197
Weird thing in the basement.
587
00:39:39,198 --> 00:39:41,852
I'd like to be able to be
free of these things so
588
00:39:41,853 --> 00:39:45,568
that I can focus on being
as good a mother as I can.
589
00:39:45,569 --> 00:39:48,740
It doesn't help that this is going on.
590
00:39:48,741 --> 00:39:51,561
- Yeah.
- Mm hmm.
591
00:39:52,911 --> 00:39:56,699
We want to be a normal
family as much as possible
592
00:39:56,700 --> 00:40:02,123
because we're under unusual circumstances
anyway with having a high-needs child.
593
00:40:02,124 --> 00:40:05,252
And I worry about him because
he's confined to that chair.
594
00:40:05,253 --> 00:40:09,393
- Mm mm.
- And completely vulnerable.
595
00:40:14,179 --> 00:40:18,217
Obviously, you've got a lot of
serious things going on here.
596
00:40:18,218 --> 00:40:22,694
But the pressing question is,
is it safe for you to be here?
597
00:40:22,695 --> 00:40:28,595
With that, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy
and see if she has some answers for you.
598
00:40:29,240 --> 00:40:32,794
You have a lot of dead
around this location,
599
00:40:32,795 --> 00:40:36,817
but the one who's really a problem
at this point is the little girl,
600
00:40:36,818 --> 00:40:39,573
because she's, like, a
fully conscious entity.
601
00:40:39,574 --> 00:40:42,831
You need to have a medium come in,
602
00:40:42,832 --> 00:40:46,334
and she's gonna have to get
this little girl out of here.
603
00:40:46,335 --> 00:40:51,206
When the medium comes through, she'll
also do a cleansing around the property.
604
00:40:51,207 --> 00:40:54,327
To set up a boundary.
605
00:40:54,582 --> 00:40:58,242
Against the man with the axe.
606
00:40:58,348 --> 00:41:03,019
And other various dead who
might wander through.
607
00:41:03,020 --> 00:41:06,996
The little thing down here, which
is attached to the axe man,
608
00:41:06,997 --> 00:41:11,129
keeping him out is going to
cause that link to dissipate.
609
00:41:11,130 --> 00:41:14,340
And so it'll probably
make him just go... ffft!
610
00:41:14,341 --> 00:41:16,501
No more.
611
00:41:16,646 --> 00:41:18,441
So, once they're able to,
612
00:41:18,442 --> 00:41:21,192
establish where there's no more
dead around here or in the house,
613
00:41:21,193 --> 00:41:23,559
will she start to feel better?
614
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,720
Oh, yes.
615
00:41:26,062 --> 00:41:28,818
My question to you now is, are
you gonna follow Amy's advice?
616
00:41:28,819 --> 00:41:30,266
- Oh, yeah.
- Yes.
617
00:41:30,267 --> 00:41:35,667
I don't have to live in
complete fear all the time.
618
00:41:35,939 --> 00:41:38,922
Allan: I understand why Diane
fears for her son's well-being.
619
00:41:38,923 --> 00:41:41,792
Encountering that many
entities can be terrifying,
620
00:41:41,793 --> 00:41:44,260
but I'm confident that if
she follows my advice,
621
00:41:44,261 --> 00:41:47,976
she and her family should lead
a happy and peaceful life.
622
00:41:47,977 --> 00:41:53,877
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