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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,720 Subs created by: David Coleman. 2 00:00:07,159 --> 00:00:10,264 Someone died, like, right here. 3 00:00:10,265 --> 00:00:11,835 She was, like, a teenager. 4 00:00:11,836 --> 00:00:14,482 I started seeing the vision of a girl. 5 00:00:14,483 --> 00:00:16,986 She has suffered a lot. 6 00:00:16,987 --> 00:00:19,215 And she continues to suffer. 7 00:00:19,216 --> 00:00:20,571 Do you think this was an accident? 8 00:00:20,572 --> 00:00:21,559 No. 9 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:22,812 How severe were those injuries? 10 00:00:22,813 --> 00:00:25,139 She could've had significant injuries to her head. 11 00:00:25,140 --> 00:00:26,296 (Bleep). 12 00:00:26,297 --> 00:00:28,816 I'm concerned that he might actually hurt somebody. 13 00:00:28,817 --> 00:00:32,223 See, he's getting mad again, and he's pissed off now. 14 00:00:32,224 --> 00:00:33,292 Did you see anything? 15 00:00:33,293 --> 00:00:36,293 No. I just felt it. 16 00:00:36,849 --> 00:00:39,501 He threw her down. 17 00:00:39,502 --> 00:00:42,082 He killed her. 18 00:00:42,606 --> 00:00:44,639 There's something down there. 19 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,760 My name is Amy Allan. 20 00:00:48,524 --> 00:00:50,795 A lot of dead people are here. 21 00:00:50,796 --> 00:00:52,038 I see dead people. 22 00:00:52,039 --> 00:00:53,675 This is not good. 23 00:00:53,676 --> 00:00:55,650 I speak to dead people.. 24 00:00:55,651 --> 00:00:57,454 He is very pissed off. 25 00:00:57,455 --> 00:00:59,013 And they speak to me.. 26 00:00:59,014 --> 00:01:00,308 The house is angry. 27 00:01:00,309 --> 00:01:03,761 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 28 00:01:03,762 --> 00:01:05,544 He's killed people. 29 00:01:05,545 --> 00:01:07,019 I rely on my partner. 30 00:01:07,020 --> 00:01:08,468 I'm Steve Dischiavi. 31 00:01:08,469 --> 00:01:10,470 I'm a retired New York City homicide Detective.. 32 00:01:10,471 --> 00:01:11,984 He got shot at his house? 33 00:01:11,985 --> 00:01:14,975 And I know every person, every house has secrets. 34 00:01:14,976 --> 00:01:16,361 Aren't you terrified being here? 35 00:01:16,362 --> 00:01:17,662 It's my job to reveal 'em. 36 00:01:17,663 --> 00:01:19,711 That sounds like something out of "The Exorcist". 37 00:01:19,712 --> 00:01:21,853 But Steve and I never speak.. 38 00:01:21,854 --> 00:01:23,836 We never communicate during an investigation. 39 00:01:23,837 --> 00:01:25,104 Until the very end. 40 00:01:25,105 --> 00:01:26,438 It's bad. 41 00:01:26,439 --> 00:01:28,540 When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay.. 42 00:01:56,367 --> 00:01:59,637 Amy and I work independently of one another. 43 00:01:59,638 --> 00:02:01,672 I gather evidence, interview witnesses, 44 00:02:01,673 --> 00:02:06,253 and investigate the history of each location. 45 00:02:06,254 --> 00:02:11,759 When we're done, we reveal our findings to the clients and each other. 46 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,563 I'm in Huntington, West Virginia, on my way to meet with a local dentist. 47 00:02:15,564 --> 00:02:18,442 He tells me that the activity in his office is so bad, 48 00:02:18,443 --> 00:02:21,132 even his employees don't want to come to work. 49 00:02:21,133 --> 00:02:24,135 Worse, now that his patients are starting to see things, 50 00:02:24,136 --> 00:02:28,696 he's afraid he's gonna lose his business. 51 00:02:34,978 --> 00:02:38,039 Before Amy enters a location, I have to clear the area 52 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:42,840 of anything that could influence her findings. 53 00:02:43,452 --> 00:02:46,098 I can't hide the fact that this is a dentist's office, 54 00:02:46,099 --> 00:02:49,931 but by removing the diplomas, personal photos, and artwork.. 55 00:02:49,932 --> 00:02:55,832 I can ensure that Amy's walk is free of any kind of leading information. 56 00:03:07,470 --> 00:03:12,167 As I approach this location, dark images begin flashing through my mind. 57 00:03:12,168 --> 00:03:18,068 The dead seem restless and are already trying to communicate with me. 58 00:03:22,306 --> 00:03:24,106 I.. 59 00:03:24,872 --> 00:03:28,218 Have this elderly gentleman with me. 60 00:03:28,219 --> 00:03:32,889 He's, uh, really tall, like, 6'2" to 6'4". 61 00:03:32,890 --> 00:03:36,654 He has, like, steely gray hair, 62 00:03:36,655 --> 00:03:39,372 and something happened, 63 00:03:39,373 --> 00:03:42,613 but I'm not sure what. 64 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,240 Okay. 65 00:03:50,351 --> 00:03:52,211 Uh.. 66 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:58,520 Something happened in his office. 67 00:04:01,505 --> 00:04:06,245 I did hear, "murder. Murder, murder, murder". 68 00:04:25,595 --> 00:04:28,189 So, Dr. Grimes, when we spoke on the phone, you sounded a little concerned. 69 00:04:28,190 --> 00:04:29,532 Uh, what.. What's going on? 70 00:04:29,533 --> 00:04:31,792 We have a problem here. 71 00:04:31,793 --> 00:04:34,917 I've been in this building for nearly 40 years. 72 00:04:34,918 --> 00:04:39,353 Starting out, things were just noises that could be dismissed, 73 00:04:39,354 --> 00:04:42,377 but they have been increasing in intensity. 74 00:04:42,378 --> 00:04:44,966 I no longer have just sounds. 75 00:04:44,967 --> 00:04:47,805 I have visual things going on. 76 00:04:47,806 --> 00:04:51,000 In the last year this stuff has really ramped up. 77 00:04:51,001 --> 00:04:53,117 It, uh, became more and more apparent 78 00:04:53,118 --> 00:04:57,586 that something was going on, something frightening. 79 00:04:57,587 --> 00:04:59,964 As far as your employees go, I mean, how are they dealing with it? 80 00:04:59,965 --> 00:05:01,292 Uh, they're afraid of it. 81 00:05:01,293 --> 00:05:04,315 Uh, well, for example, they won't go upstairs at night. 82 00:05:04,316 --> 00:05:07,054 In fact, let me just show you something. 83 00:05:07,055 --> 00:05:10,620 I keep a logbook of incidents. 84 00:05:10,621 --> 00:05:13,485 It's not the little ones, uh, they're too numerous, but.. 85 00:05:13,486 --> 00:05:15,827 In this log, you will find, uh.. 86 00:05:15,828 --> 00:05:19,120 Entries made by the people who work here and others. 87 00:05:19,121 --> 00:05:21,170 I mean, I've never seen anything like this before. 88 00:05:21,171 --> 00:05:24,473 I mean, I know people keep journals, but I never saw a ghost log before. 89 00:05:24,474 --> 00:05:29,111 Are you concerned that what's ever going on here is, uh, is dangerous? 90 00:05:29,112 --> 00:05:32,281 It's my concern that I could actually frighten my patients away. 91 00:05:32,282 --> 00:05:38,182 If this increases, I may be in trouble, uh, as far as my practice is concerned. 92 00:05:42,391 --> 00:05:45,255 Quite a few people died here.. 93 00:05:45,256 --> 00:05:48,016 At this location. 94 00:05:48,369 --> 00:05:51,309 Quite a few people. 95 00:05:54,069 --> 00:05:59,589 I don't feel good about the deaths that happened here. 96 00:06:01,743 --> 00:06:04,746 Like, I feel neglect, like, just.. 97 00:06:04,747 --> 00:06:08,107 And I hear it. "Neglect". 98 00:06:15,533 --> 00:06:18,460 So, Doc, this doesn't look like a dentist's office up here. 99 00:06:18,461 --> 00:06:20,962 It used to be a bedroom, uh, in the original residence, 100 00:06:20,963 --> 00:06:25,568 and, uh, now it's just a place for me to come and relax a little. 101 00:06:25,569 --> 00:06:27,336 Okay, so what's going on in here? 102 00:06:27,337 --> 00:06:29,805 This was, uh, originally, uh, a place 103 00:06:29,806 --> 00:06:33,544 where I started seeing the.. A vision of a little girl. 104 00:06:33,545 --> 00:06:34,876 You mean.. Can you describe her for me? 105 00:06:34,877 --> 00:06:36,611 Yes, I can. As a matter of fact, 106 00:06:36,612 --> 00:06:39,113 I've painted a painting of her several years ago, 107 00:06:39,114 --> 00:06:41,452 - and I have it right here, which.. - Oh, this is her? 108 00:06:41,453 --> 00:06:46,387 This is as near as I could come to the way she actually looked. 109 00:06:46,388 --> 00:06:50,288 As you can see, she's very sad. 110 00:06:51,393 --> 00:06:55,174 She makes you feel that you.. You've got to do something for her. 111 00:06:55,175 --> 00:06:58,334 One way I've tried to communicate with her is through this painting. 112 00:06:58,335 --> 00:07:02,891 There's another way, and I can show you that. 113 00:07:02,892 --> 00:07:05,205 I have left toys here for her. 114 00:07:05,206 --> 00:07:09,578 And I know that she's in here, because some of these objects have moved. 115 00:07:09,579 --> 00:07:11,147 Do you feel like you're.. 116 00:07:11,148 --> 00:07:14,250 Uh, consumed by this whole thing going on in this house? 117 00:07:14,251 --> 00:07:18,332 Well, if you could see her, uh, you would feel as I do. 118 00:07:18,333 --> 00:07:19,888 She makes you feel that you.. 119 00:07:19,889 --> 00:07:21,790 You've got to do something for her. 120 00:07:21,791 --> 00:07:23,626 And you're a Father, and, you know, it's.. 121 00:07:23,627 --> 00:07:25,797 It.. It does get to you. 122 00:07:25,798 --> 00:07:29,363 I have tried very hard to reach out to her.. 123 00:07:29,364 --> 00:07:32,501 Because of the empathy I feel for her. 124 00:07:32,502 --> 00:07:34,737 Now have you seen her on this floor? 125 00:07:34,738 --> 00:07:40,638 Uh, yes. In fact, she was standing right there at that door. 126 00:07:47,048 --> 00:07:49,251 So what happened here on the stairs? 127 00:07:49,252 --> 00:07:52,732 I was down here, and, uh.. 128 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,956 She would just stand there looking at me, 129 00:07:54,957 --> 00:07:57,904 and I would get this strange feeling that someone was looking at me, 130 00:07:57,905 --> 00:08:03,005 and I would turn around, and there she would be. 131 00:08:06,568 --> 00:08:08,222 Mm. 132 00:08:08,223 --> 00:08:11,283 I hate the stairwell. 133 00:08:11,326 --> 00:08:15,046 I hate it. I don't know why. 134 00:08:16,745 --> 00:08:19,550 Something in that space.. 135 00:08:19,551 --> 00:08:23,091 Is not good at all. It's.. 136 00:08:23,727 --> 00:08:27,287 Making me sick to my stomach. 137 00:08:27,288 --> 00:08:31,216 I'm feeling a great deal of pain and negativity coming from the stairwell. 138 00:08:31,217 --> 00:08:33,497 I know something horrible happened there.. 139 00:08:33,498 --> 00:08:37,518 And I'm nervous to find out what. 140 00:08:38,762 --> 00:08:40,562 Mm. 141 00:08:44,930 --> 00:08:49,010 Someone like, died like, right here. 142 00:08:49,397 --> 00:08:51,270 It's a lady. 143 00:08:51,271 --> 00:08:53,472 She's, like, a teenager, and.. 144 00:08:53,473 --> 00:08:57,176 And her heart's pounding. Her heart's pounding. 145 00:08:57,177 --> 00:09:01,257 She's crying, and she peed herself. 146 00:09:03,070 --> 00:09:08,650 So much pain, and, uh, she broke her legs or something. 147 00:09:15,621 --> 00:09:17,851 So have you experienced anything else here? 148 00:09:17,852 --> 00:09:19,665 Yes, I have. I was walking through this 149 00:09:19,666 --> 00:09:21,963 hallway late one evening, turning things off. 150 00:09:21,964 --> 00:09:24,419 Uh, we were ready to leave the office. 151 00:09:24,420 --> 00:09:27,165 And from about this height.. 152 00:09:27,166 --> 00:09:29,780 A voice came to me, a man's voice, very deep. 153 00:09:29,781 --> 00:09:32,466 And he said, "get out of here". 154 00:09:32,467 --> 00:09:34,263 He, uh, is a huge man. 155 00:09:34,264 --> 00:09:38,331 He's big, and I've heard him more than seen him. 156 00:09:38,332 --> 00:09:39,632 Now you've actually seen him? 157 00:09:39,633 --> 00:09:42,600 I haven't seen him so much. I saw a shadow here 158 00:09:42,601 --> 00:09:47,271 and a shadow there, but he goes up and down these stairs constantly, it seems. 159 00:09:47,272 --> 00:09:49,943 You can hear him stomping, literally. 160 00:09:49,944 --> 00:09:53,780 He's the one that I'm really concerned about because of his aggression 161 00:09:53,781 --> 00:09:59,681 and because of his size, and I'm concerned that he might actually hurt somebody. 162 00:10:02,294 --> 00:10:05,177 So she died, like, right here. 163 00:10:05,178 --> 00:10:09,170 This guy is laughing. He's just laughing. 164 00:10:09,171 --> 00:10:13,403 This large, angry man is the same one I saw when I first arrived. 165 00:10:13,404 --> 00:10:16,010 I believe he's this poor girl's Father. 166 00:10:16,011 --> 00:10:20,348 He's very intimidating, extremely cruel, and sadistic. 167 00:10:20,349 --> 00:10:22,925 He's just laughing and laughing. 168 00:10:22,926 --> 00:10:25,152 "She was a useless bitch". 169 00:10:25,153 --> 00:10:28,523 "She (Bleep) Wanted all this stuff, the little bitch". 170 00:10:28,524 --> 00:10:31,693 "I didn't have a use for her any more". 171 00:10:31,694 --> 00:10:35,894 Because he didn't like her any more. 172 00:10:37,844 --> 00:10:40,424 He killed her. 173 00:10:54,861 --> 00:10:56,661 Mm. 174 00:10:58,660 --> 00:11:01,556 You know, he killed her. 175 00:11:01,557 --> 00:11:05,061 He didn't like her any more, and he didn't want her around, 176 00:11:05,062 --> 00:11:08,114 and she annoyed him, and.. 177 00:11:08,115 --> 00:11:11,535 (Bleep)! What the (Bleep)?! 178 00:11:17,841 --> 00:11:20,361 What happened? 179 00:11:20,544 --> 00:11:23,304 Mm. He poked me. 180 00:11:24,282 --> 00:11:28,469 He doesn't want me to really talk about it.. 181 00:11:28,470 --> 00:11:32,370 Because he got mad and ran away. 182 00:11:41,998 --> 00:11:45,846 So, Carey, I spoke with your Dad, and, uh, he told me what was going on here. 183 00:11:45,847 --> 00:11:46,924 Now what about yourself? 184 00:11:46,925 --> 00:11:48,139 Have you experienced anything here? 185 00:11:48,140 --> 00:11:53,240 I have, when I was a child in the waiting room. 186 00:11:54,370 --> 00:11:58,178 Uh, there was a young girl, and she was kind of peeking around the corner at me. 187 00:11:58,179 --> 00:11:59,384 Okay. What'd she look like? 188 00:11:59,385 --> 00:12:03,035 Uh, she was young, so I'd say probably 12 or 13. 189 00:12:03,036 --> 00:12:06,492 I just remember her face and her hair, because she had long hair like I did, 190 00:12:06,493 --> 00:12:10,349 and that stood out to me. Long, dark hair. 191 00:12:10,350 --> 00:12:13,138 She had her head hung low, and she would swing it 192 00:12:13,139 --> 00:12:17,459 back and forth while she looked at me. 193 00:12:17,614 --> 00:12:20,085 Did it look like the girl your Dad painted? 194 00:12:20,086 --> 00:12:21,935 Yes. 195 00:12:21,936 --> 00:12:25,217 Your Father seems pretty, uh, consumed almost. 196 00:12:25,218 --> 00:12:26,351 Are you concerned for him? 197 00:12:26,352 --> 00:12:28,186 I just worry about his reputation. 198 00:12:28,187 --> 00:12:29,344 I mean, this is his livelihood. 199 00:12:29,345 --> 00:12:31,489 This is everything for him.. 200 00:12:31,490 --> 00:12:33,381 - Right. - 40 years' worth of work. 201 00:12:33,382 --> 00:12:34,886 He's got so much to lose. 202 00:12:34,887 --> 00:12:37,022 Absolutely everything. 203 00:12:37,023 --> 00:12:40,091 Even though the Doc and his daughter have seen the same apparition. 204 00:12:40,092 --> 00:12:42,828 I need to speak with someone who's outside the family. 205 00:12:42,829 --> 00:12:44,930 So I'm going to meet with a woman who used to work here 206 00:12:44,931 --> 00:12:49,311 to see if she's had similar encounters. 207 00:12:55,272 --> 00:12:57,699 Karen, I understand you're a former employee of the Doctor. 208 00:12:57,700 --> 00:12:58,494 That's correct. 209 00:12:58,495 --> 00:13:00,312 Okay, and how long did you work here? 210 00:13:00,313 --> 00:13:01,914 Probably a couple years. 211 00:13:01,915 --> 00:13:05,550 Okay. Now he's explained some bizarre things that he's experienced here. 212 00:13:05,551 --> 00:13:07,390 Now how about yourself? 213 00:13:07,391 --> 00:13:11,341 There's been some bizarre things happen to me also. 214 00:13:11,342 --> 00:13:13,305 Can you tell me about anything? 215 00:13:13,306 --> 00:13:18,414 I was assisting Dr. Grimes in doing a root canal.. 216 00:13:18,415 --> 00:13:20,600 And I glanced up. 217 00:13:20,601 --> 00:13:25,472 And there was a girl standing right behind where you're standing. 218 00:13:25,473 --> 00:13:26,988 What did she look like to you? 219 00:13:26,989 --> 00:13:29,380 She had long.. 220 00:13:29,381 --> 00:13:31,743 Very well-groomed.. 221 00:13:31,744 --> 00:13:33,119 Dark hair. 222 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,436 She seemed to me to be pretty. 223 00:13:35,437 --> 00:13:37,244 I can see her today as well as then. 224 00:13:37,245 --> 00:13:38,980 - It's that vivid in your mind? - It's that vivid. 225 00:13:38,981 --> 00:13:41,144 - Okay. - I will never forget it. 226 00:13:41,145 --> 00:13:44,254 I can see it's upsetting for you to even be in the building. 227 00:13:44,255 --> 00:13:48,011 This room doesn't bother me as bad.. 228 00:13:48,012 --> 00:13:51,072 As the room upstairs. 229 00:13:52,170 --> 00:13:54,487 I went up to get a file. 230 00:13:54,488 --> 00:13:58,114 And I could feel someone in that room with me. 231 00:13:58,115 --> 00:13:59,239 Did you see anything? 232 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,240 No. I just felt it. 233 00:14:04,221 --> 00:14:06,766 What happens when you walk into that room? 234 00:14:06,767 --> 00:14:09,107 That room.. 235 00:14:10,519 --> 00:14:15,079 I felt like something came over me, like.. 236 00:14:15,795 --> 00:14:19,395 Like someone was watching me. 237 00:14:30,020 --> 00:14:32,780 What the (Bleep)? 238 00:14:35,524 --> 00:14:39,064 The more I'm here, like, uh.. 239 00:14:39,065 --> 00:14:41,676 The more I don't like this place. 240 00:14:41,677 --> 00:14:43,537 Why? 241 00:14:44,427 --> 00:14:46,407 Well.. 242 00:14:47,042 --> 00:14:51,662 This guy was not good, and he was a liar. 243 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:56,160 He's hiding h.. What h.. He looks like. 244 00:14:58,354 --> 00:15:02,121 Ever since the big man poked me on the stairs, he's been hiding. 245 00:15:02,122 --> 00:15:05,947 I know he's watching me, but he doesn't want to be seen. 246 00:15:05,948 --> 00:15:08,629 See, he's getting mad again. Yeah. 247 00:15:08,630 --> 00:15:13,130 - Is he back, hon? - He's, like, coming. 248 00:15:13,551 --> 00:15:15,591 Coming. 249 00:15:26,137 --> 00:15:28,067 Charlotte, I understand that you actually worked for the Doctor? 250 00:15:28,068 --> 00:15:29,173 Yes, I did. 251 00:15:29,174 --> 00:15:30,562 Okay. What did you do? 252 00:15:30,563 --> 00:15:34,727 I owned a commercial cleaning business, and I cleaned his offices. 253 00:15:34,728 --> 00:15:37,194 Now I was wondering if you, while you were working here, 254 00:15:37,195 --> 00:15:39,211 ever experienced anything paranormal. 255 00:15:39,212 --> 00:15:40,755 Yes. Yes, I did. 256 00:15:40,756 --> 00:15:44,928 I was working in the kitchen, and I heard this crying, 257 00:15:44,929 --> 00:15:47,518 and so I come back into this room. 258 00:15:47,519 --> 00:15:49,644 And this little girl is not crying.. 259 00:15:49,645 --> 00:15:51,356 She's sobbing.. 260 00:15:51,357 --> 00:15:54,777 As if her heart's broken. 261 00:15:55,881 --> 00:15:57,217 What did you do next? 262 00:15:57,218 --> 00:15:58,551 I came in and sit down. 263 00:15:58,552 --> 00:16:01,552 Although I didn't see her.. 264 00:16:01,553 --> 00:16:05,557 I heard her, and I wanted to sit down and comfort her. 265 00:16:05,558 --> 00:16:07,961 And try to help her in any way I could. 266 00:16:07,962 --> 00:16:09,729 And you just sat down and started trying.. 267 00:16:09,730 --> 00:16:10,730 - Yes. - To calm her down? 268 00:16:10,731 --> 00:16:12,399 - Right. - But you never saw her? 269 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:13,866 No. No. 270 00:16:13,867 --> 00:16:18,171 Whenever I come up these stairs, I can feel her. 271 00:16:18,172 --> 00:16:22,380 I.. I can feel her presence, and I can feel the sadness.. 272 00:16:22,381 --> 00:16:25,078 And the heaviness. 273 00:16:25,079 --> 00:16:28,319 She has suffered a lot. 274 00:16:28,387 --> 00:16:31,927 And she continues to suffer. 275 00:16:37,936 --> 00:16:40,060 It's (Bleep) Up. 276 00:16:40,061 --> 00:16:43,296 He did, like, not want to.. 277 00:16:43,297 --> 00:16:45,231 Really take care of his family. 278 00:16:45,232 --> 00:16:49,492 Like, he felt like they were leeches.. 279 00:16:51,271 --> 00:16:54,797 And.. And, like, he would, like, starve people. 280 00:16:54,798 --> 00:16:57,910 Like I feel like he's starving people, he's lying.. 281 00:16:57,911 --> 00:17:01,091 He, like, um, is, um.. 282 00:17:01,382 --> 00:17:02,712 Just bad. 283 00:17:02,713 --> 00:17:05,593 Just a bad person. 284 00:17:05,953 --> 00:17:08,173 And, um.. 285 00:17:09,622 --> 00:17:12,922 And then the.. There's.. 286 00:17:13,472 --> 00:17:16,772 There's blood everywhere. 287 00:17:29,216 --> 00:17:32,053 So far, all I've got is a lot of witness testimony, 288 00:17:32,054 --> 00:17:34,989 as to what's going on inside Dr. Grimes office. 289 00:17:34,990 --> 00:17:37,810 But I need facts. 290 00:17:42,026 --> 00:17:43,958 Going through the library's archives. 291 00:17:43,959 --> 00:17:48,286 I find an article about a 21-year-old girl who died in 1929. 292 00:17:48,287 --> 00:17:54,187 From a fall in the same building the Doc runs his practice at. 293 00:17:56,274 --> 00:18:00,026 The Doc told me he keeps seeing a young girl who looks like she's sad and in pain. 294 00:18:00,027 --> 00:18:03,665 Now it turns out, a young girl actually died in his duplex. 295 00:18:03,666 --> 00:18:05,541 So I'm headed off to meet with a local historian, 296 00:18:05,542 --> 00:18:10,522 who promises to tell me the rest of the story. 297 00:18:15,948 --> 00:18:19,581 I came across this article about a girl named Lavina. 298 00:18:19,582 --> 00:18:23,784 That died from a fall in the location I'm investigating, but it's very vague. 299 00:18:23,785 --> 00:18:25,574 Uh, so I was wondering if you could help me out. 300 00:18:25,575 --> 00:18:28,219 She's sort of a woman of mystery. 301 00:18:28,220 --> 00:18:30,804 Uh, what we do know about her, though, says.. 302 00:18:30,805 --> 00:18:34,690 Suggests that her story was a very tragic one. 303 00:18:34,691 --> 00:18:36,974 Her Mother, uh, Bernice.. 304 00:18:36,975 --> 00:18:41,665 Was, uh, married to, uh, this gentleman named, uh, Cyrus. 305 00:18:41,666 --> 00:18:43,854 - Okay. - Apparently, uh, he liked to drink. 306 00:18:43,855 --> 00:18:48,217 And when he, uh, was drunk, he liked to, uh, beat on his wife. 307 00:18:48,218 --> 00:18:53,406 And then, of course, the next day, he sobered up and was very contrite. 308 00:18:53,407 --> 00:18:58,927 In 1913, Lavina, her elder sister, and her Mother left. 309 00:18:59,190 --> 00:19:02,187 And moved into the duplex on 20th street. 310 00:19:02,188 --> 00:19:03,481 - In Huntington. - Okay. 311 00:19:03,482 --> 00:19:05,217 Where Dr. Grimes' office is now? 312 00:19:05,218 --> 00:19:06,225 Exactly. 313 00:19:06,226 --> 00:19:08,045 We don't know if the Father ever came back and.. 314 00:19:08,046 --> 00:19:09,280 Or tried to find them or.. 315 00:19:09,281 --> 00:19:10,596 We don't.. We don't know. 316 00:19:10,597 --> 00:19:13,134 Okay, but he was a miserable bastard, this guy, apparently. 317 00:19:13,135 --> 00:19:14,615 And they, they had to get away from him. 318 00:19:14,616 --> 00:19:18,816 That's what the record, uh, suggests. 319 00:19:24,497 --> 00:19:27,492 I feel like there's.. 320 00:19:27,493 --> 00:19:30,733 People. They're arguing. 321 00:19:31,281 --> 00:19:34,321 There's a male, and he's a liar.. 322 00:19:34,322 --> 00:19:37,201 And there's the two ladies, and.. 323 00:19:37,202 --> 00:19:39,722 And, uh, he.. 324 00:19:42,821 --> 00:19:44,741 Wha.. 325 00:19:44,885 --> 00:19:49,249 He's chasing.. Like, he's following them. 326 00:19:49,250 --> 00:19:50,726 And.. 327 00:19:50,727 --> 00:19:52,519 Uh.. 328 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,400 He's doing things. 329 00:19:57,611 --> 00:19:59,672 As I walk through this house, I keep seeing 330 00:19:59,673 --> 00:20:01,962 the dead girl's Father by the stairwell. 331 00:20:01,963 --> 00:20:07,863 He's very upset, and he's taking his aggression out on his family. 332 00:20:10,451 --> 00:20:12,506 His wife.. 333 00:20:12,507 --> 00:20:17,136 Ran away because he's coming in, and he's pissed off now. 334 00:20:17,137 --> 00:20:19,590 This is happening right now? 335 00:20:19,591 --> 00:20:21,511 Yeah. 336 00:20:25,358 --> 00:20:27,457 Uh, it says she died from a fall. 337 00:20:27,458 --> 00:20:30,276 Um, but the articles are vague, and they just.. 338 00:20:30,277 --> 00:20:32,943 The articles are, uh, not just vague. 339 00:20:32,944 --> 00:20:34,337 They're contradictory. 340 00:20:34,338 --> 00:20:35,458 Right. 341 00:20:35,459 --> 00:20:38,808 I have here, uh, her death certificate. 342 00:20:38,809 --> 00:20:41,840 Which actually says that she died.. 343 00:20:41,841 --> 00:20:45,381 From acute alcohol poisoning. 344 00:20:46,341 --> 00:20:49,241 But the paper says she's.. She fell, so.. 345 00:20:49,242 --> 00:20:50,944 Well, who.. Who do you thinks right? 346 00:20:50,945 --> 00:20:53,387 I have no idea. 347 00:20:53,388 --> 00:20:54,552 This is during prohibition. 348 00:20:54,553 --> 00:20:57,349 West Virginia went dry in 1914. 349 00:20:57,350 --> 00:20:59,686 But nobody stopped drinking. 350 00:20:59,687 --> 00:21:01,351 One word.. 351 00:21:01,352 --> 00:21:02,664 "Moonshine". 352 00:21:02,665 --> 00:21:03,457 Ah. 353 00:21:03,458 --> 00:21:08,662 And what prohibition did was create an entirely new market for the moonshiners. 354 00:21:08,663 --> 00:21:09,378 Okay. 355 00:21:09,379 --> 00:21:11,358 - But moon shining is an art. - Right. 356 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,798 If you don't do it right, you can kill your customers. 357 00:21:14,799 --> 00:21:18,038 So it.. All possibility is she could've gotten a hold of some bad liquor. 358 00:21:18,039 --> 00:21:19,104 Exactly. 359 00:21:19,105 --> 00:21:21,988 So the death certificate says one thing, and the newspaper articles say another. 360 00:21:21,989 --> 00:21:26,871 One article, uh, says that she died after an illness of ten days. 361 00:21:26,872 --> 00:21:29,149 As the result of a fall. 362 00:21:29,150 --> 00:21:31,070 Okay. 363 00:21:34,268 --> 00:21:38,199 Her legs are messed up, like, so there's nerves.. 364 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,077 There was a pain here. 365 00:21:41,078 --> 00:21:45,398 A really bad pain here, like a crunch. 366 00:21:45,807 --> 00:21:50,667 And this guy is laughing. He's just laughing. 367 00:21:52,127 --> 00:21:54,796 Do you think this was an accident? 368 00:21:54,797 --> 00:21:56,597 No. 369 00:21:57,269 --> 00:22:00,329 He's happy about it. 370 00:22:01,307 --> 00:22:03,527 I think.. 371 00:22:04,796 --> 00:22:07,642 He threw her down. 372 00:22:07,643 --> 00:22:10,583 This is so (Bleep). 373 00:22:10,789 --> 00:22:14,329 I think he tossed her over. 374 00:22:24,510 --> 00:22:27,217 Something about this case does not sit right with me. 375 00:22:27,218 --> 00:22:30,932 The newspaper article states that Lavina died from a fall. 376 00:22:30,933 --> 00:22:34,153 But the death certificate lists another cause of death. 377 00:22:34,154 --> 00:22:36,053 So what I did was send all the paperwork over 378 00:22:36,054 --> 00:22:38,047 to one of the top paramedics in the County 379 00:22:38,048 --> 00:22:43,088 to see if he can make any sense of it for me. 380 00:22:52,557 --> 00:22:54,609 So, Steve, I'm sure with your experience, uh, 381 00:22:54,610 --> 00:22:58,364 you've responded to thousands of people falling. 382 00:22:58,365 --> 00:23:00,027 Now the pain she must've been in 383 00:23:00,028 --> 00:23:01,452 - if it was a fall.. - Right. 384 00:23:01,453 --> 00:23:03,723 Uh, how severe were those injuries, uh, that she died from? 385 00:23:03,724 --> 00:23:06,855 If she was climbing the stairs and she fell 10 or 12 stairs, 386 00:23:06,856 --> 00:23:09,593 which would've been her height or two times her height, 387 00:23:09,594 --> 00:23:12,560 you know she could've had significant injuries, significant injuries to her head, 388 00:23:12,561 --> 00:23:15,913 bruises on the brain, bleeding that starts to spread. 389 00:23:15,914 --> 00:23:18,996 As that bleeding starts to spread, they're gonna have severe headache. 390 00:23:18,997 --> 00:23:21,149 After severe headache, they're gonna have blurry vision, 391 00:23:21,150 --> 00:23:23,475 and after blurry vision, you know, ultimately, 392 00:23:23,476 --> 00:23:28,336 altered mental status, and then unconsciousness. 393 00:23:32,089 --> 00:23:35,407 He, like, threw her down. 394 00:23:35,408 --> 00:23:40,928 He was like, "it's like.. She's all broken. (Bleep) ". 395 00:23:42,385 --> 00:23:44,353 And then.. 396 00:23:44,354 --> 00:23:47,442 There was a pain here. 397 00:23:47,443 --> 00:23:51,763 A really bad pain here, like a crunch. 398 00:23:57,796 --> 00:23:59,970 Yeah. Oh, that.. (Bleep). 399 00:23:59,971 --> 00:24:02,708 I don't know. Maybe she broke her back. 400 00:24:02,709 --> 00:24:05,237 It's not good at all. 401 00:24:05,238 --> 00:24:07,998 It's really bad. 402 00:24:11,035 --> 00:24:13,880 The death certificate lists alcohol poisoning as the cause of death. 403 00:24:13,881 --> 00:24:17,021 Now it's 1929, so this is prohibition. 404 00:24:17,022 --> 00:24:20,136 Right. The federal government was still producing.. 405 00:24:20,137 --> 00:24:22,643 Uh, alcohol for medicinal purposes. 406 00:24:22,644 --> 00:24:25,181 Now would a civilian be able to get that? 407 00:24:25,182 --> 00:24:29,228 What they tried to do was they tried to take that medicinal alcohol.. 408 00:24:29,229 --> 00:24:33,440 And they would put small traces of poison in that alcohol. 409 00:24:33,441 --> 00:24:36,946 To prevent people from using it as a recreational, uh, drink. 410 00:24:36,947 --> 00:24:38,787 And just for the purposes that it was produced. 411 00:24:38,788 --> 00:24:41,606 Okay, so that.. That was their way of trying to curb them from using it. 412 00:24:41,607 --> 00:24:42,629 Exactly. 413 00:24:42,630 --> 00:24:45,612 So, Steve, if she started to ingest this poison liquor, 414 00:24:45,613 --> 00:24:47,921 uh, would it taste like alcohol? Would it.. What would happen? 415 00:24:47,922 --> 00:24:51,892 As she ingested this, it's gonna cause severe burning in her upper airway. 416 00:24:51,893 --> 00:24:53,685 As she swallows it, it's gonna cause burning 417 00:24:53,686 --> 00:24:56,199 going down her esophagus down into her stomach. 418 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,015 And it's gonna aggravate her stomach lining. 419 00:24:58,016 --> 00:25:00,228 Would moonshine cause that same type of symptom? 420 00:25:00,229 --> 00:25:03,607 Yes. When they filtered these homemade spirits, 421 00:25:03,608 --> 00:25:05,828 they were filtered through radiators, 422 00:25:05,829 --> 00:25:11,729 and eventually lead poisoning, uh, could've been a possibility. 423 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,670 The daughter that died on the stairs.. 424 00:25:19,671 --> 00:25:22,480 There was a sickness with the throat. 425 00:25:22,481 --> 00:25:24,845 Uh, like, um.. 426 00:25:24,846 --> 00:25:28,673 Really bad illness that affected.. 427 00:25:28,674 --> 00:25:29,947 Uh, the throat. 428 00:25:29,948 --> 00:25:32,948 Like a.. Really bad. 429 00:25:36,862 --> 00:25:40,518 It's, uh, really this intense pain. 430 00:25:40,519 --> 00:25:43,173 Going all the way down. 431 00:25:43,174 --> 00:25:46,886 Can you describe the pain in their throat? 432 00:25:46,887 --> 00:25:49,997 It's like if you've eaten a lot of lemons. 433 00:25:49,998 --> 00:25:53,330 And then you get the pain in your ears. 434 00:25:53,331 --> 00:25:57,891 And it's all raw and burning.. Like that. 435 00:25:58,935 --> 00:26:01,971 The death certificate says one thing. The newspaper articles say another. 436 00:26:01,972 --> 00:26:03,611 I'm up in the air on what I think might have happened. 437 00:26:03,612 --> 00:26:06,803 So I wanted to get your opinion and what you thought about both the reports. 438 00:26:06,804 --> 00:26:10,415 By looking at the newspaper accounts, reviewing her death certificate.. 439 00:26:10,416 --> 00:26:13,321 It looks like Miss Wall either was drinking.. 440 00:26:13,322 --> 00:26:15,493 Went to climb the steps, fell down the steps, 441 00:26:15,494 --> 00:26:18,792 suffered some type of head injury or internal bleeding. 442 00:26:18,793 --> 00:26:20,661 Or she had fallen. 443 00:26:20,662 --> 00:26:25,547 And after she had fallen, she may have been trying to, uh, lessen that pain.. 444 00:26:25,548 --> 00:26:27,558 Numb those nerve receptors herself. 445 00:26:27,559 --> 00:26:30,353 By using, whether it be illegal or legal spirits. 446 00:26:30,354 --> 00:26:32,130 Okay, but the cure could've been worse than the illness. 447 00:26:32,131 --> 00:26:34,711 - Yes. - Okay. 448 00:26:45,803 --> 00:26:48,217 During my walk, I encountered an older man 449 00:26:48,218 --> 00:26:50,675 and the daughter I think he brutally murdered. 450 00:26:50,676 --> 00:26:54,357 I'm meeting with a sketch artist to reveal what I saw. 451 00:26:54,358 --> 00:26:57,958 He's approximately 60 to 65. 452 00:26:58,637 --> 00:27:00,723 If you could describe him in, like, a couple words.. 453 00:27:00,724 --> 00:27:02,884 "Cowboy". 454 00:27:03,966 --> 00:27:06,769 He has a very rugged.. 455 00:27:06,770 --> 00:27:08,537 Uh, thick skin. 456 00:27:08,538 --> 00:27:13,398 Because he used to do a lot of work outside. 457 00:27:14,211 --> 00:27:16,712 Does he carry a lot of.. Any weight in his face? 458 00:27:16,713 --> 00:27:17,880 - No. - Okay. 459 00:27:17,881 --> 00:27:21,541 Mm-mm. He's broad-shouldered. 460 00:27:25,129 --> 00:27:27,244 His hair is very thick. 461 00:27:27,245 --> 00:27:28,817 It's wavy. 462 00:27:28,818 --> 00:27:32,898 - It's a nice silver gray. - Okay. 463 00:27:34,206 --> 00:27:37,626 Amy, is this who you saw? 464 00:27:39,094 --> 00:27:40,954 Yes. 465 00:28:08,667 --> 00:28:10,888 Now that our investigations are complete. 466 00:28:10,889 --> 00:28:14,205 We're hoping our findings will help Dr. Grimes save his practice. 467 00:28:14,206 --> 00:28:16,691 I've invited Karen to join us because I feel she 468 00:28:16,692 --> 00:28:21,612 needs answers to her own terrifying experiences. 469 00:28:23,015 --> 00:28:25,326 Dr. Grimes is.. 470 00:28:25,327 --> 00:28:28,319 The owner of the duplex. 471 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,288 It's his dentist office. 472 00:28:30,289 --> 00:28:32,691 Karen actually used to work for Dr. Grimes. 473 00:28:32,692 --> 00:28:36,252 The reason we are here and why he called us in is, uh.. 474 00:28:36,253 --> 00:28:39,118 He's had activity there for the entire time. 475 00:28:39,119 --> 00:28:42,462 But recently it's really increased. 476 00:28:42,463 --> 00:28:44,040 He thinks he may be losing patients 477 00:28:44,041 --> 00:28:45,795 because of some of the things that are going on there. 478 00:28:45,796 --> 00:28:47,403 And he needs to know what's happening. 479 00:28:47,404 --> 00:28:49,146 With that, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy. 480 00:28:49,147 --> 00:28:53,947 And she can start telling us about her walk. 481 00:28:59,501 --> 00:29:01,737 This is really bad. 482 00:29:01,738 --> 00:29:03,435 Really bad. 483 00:29:03,436 --> 00:29:06,107 So I started going up one the staircases.. 484 00:29:06,108 --> 00:29:08,318 And I saw this.. 485 00:29:08,319 --> 00:29:10,728 Girl laying there. 486 00:29:10,729 --> 00:29:13,549 And she was dead. 487 00:29:14,745 --> 00:29:16,559 She was, like, twisted. 488 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,582 Her legs are not right. 489 00:29:18,583 --> 00:29:21,152 One was bent awkwardly at the knee. 490 00:29:21,153 --> 00:29:22,256 Mm. 491 00:29:22,257 --> 00:29:25,677 She was in absolute agony. 492 00:29:25,724 --> 00:29:30,394 All of her nerves in her legs were, like, on fire. 493 00:29:30,395 --> 00:29:34,475 And I got this intense throat pain. 494 00:29:34,968 --> 00:29:37,340 There was a sickness with the throat. 495 00:29:37,341 --> 00:29:41,839 Uh, really this intense pain's going all the way down. 496 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,560 And it's all raw and burning. 497 00:29:46,879 --> 00:29:50,614 There was a young girl that did die.. 498 00:29:50,615 --> 00:29:52,209 Back in 1929. 499 00:29:52,210 --> 00:29:55,128 Her name was Lavina Wall. 500 00:29:55,129 --> 00:29:58,074 But the cause of her death is unclear. 501 00:29:58,075 --> 00:30:00,891 Newspapers articles say she died from a fall. 502 00:30:00,892 --> 00:30:02,877 - Oh, my gosh. Really? - A fall? 503 00:30:02,878 --> 00:30:04,998 The death certificate, which I have here, 504 00:30:04,999 --> 00:30:08,252 says she died from acute liquor poisoning. 505 00:30:08,253 --> 00:30:09,087 What? 506 00:30:09,088 --> 00:30:12,703 It was the prohibition, so it was medicinal liquor. 507 00:30:12,704 --> 00:30:15,284 Um, but some of the liquors had poison in it. 508 00:30:15,285 --> 00:30:18,910 He said if that happened, if she drank it, she would've.. 509 00:30:18,911 --> 00:30:21,746 Choking and burning sensation in the throat. 510 00:30:21,747 --> 00:30:23,107 Windpipe would close. 511 00:30:23,108 --> 00:30:26,583 Well, she died an agonizing death. She lasted a few days. 512 00:30:26,584 --> 00:30:27,818 Ohh. 513 00:30:27,819 --> 00:30:31,722 You know, you've had an instance where you've seen a young girl. 514 00:30:31,723 --> 00:30:35,204 I would get a strange feeling that someone was watching me. 515 00:30:35,205 --> 00:30:36,214 Mm-hmm. 516 00:30:36,215 --> 00:30:40,724 And I would turn and look at the.. The doorway at the top of the stairwell. 517 00:30:40,725 --> 00:30:43,914 And just for a split instant.. 518 00:30:43,915 --> 00:30:46,303 I would see a flash of a little girl. 519 00:30:46,304 --> 00:30:49,451 I could see pain in her eyes. 520 00:30:49,452 --> 00:30:54,360 And a longing for someone to understand that pain. 521 00:30:54,361 --> 00:30:55,639 Mm-hmm. 522 00:30:55,640 --> 00:31:00,073 It.. It's hard to describe that, but it.. It was a.. 523 00:31:00,074 --> 00:31:03,159 A, um, a moment of change. 524 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,824 From absolute terror.. 525 00:31:05,825 --> 00:31:06,640 Mm-hmm. 526 00:31:06,641 --> 00:31:10,961 To feeling that you wanna help someone. 527 00:31:14,865 --> 00:31:17,517 I did do a sketch of the scene. 528 00:31:17,518 --> 00:31:21,118 That I saw on the staircase. 529 00:31:34,384 --> 00:31:36,784 Oh, my God. 530 00:31:42,013 --> 00:31:44,236 Now you're very protective of this.. 531 00:31:44,237 --> 00:31:46,045 - Little entity that you see. - I am. 532 00:31:46,046 --> 00:31:48,888 Now how do you feel about that, seeing her like that? 533 00:31:48,889 --> 00:31:51,944 Well, it's like seeing one of your children hurt. 534 00:31:51,945 --> 00:31:52,943 Really hurt. 535 00:31:52,944 --> 00:31:56,117 Did you get to see her face or anything? 536 00:31:56,118 --> 00:31:58,458 I did not. 537 00:31:58,509 --> 00:32:00,269 I only got a quick glimpse of her face. 538 00:32:00,270 --> 00:32:03,024 So I didn't feel confident enough to sketch it. 539 00:32:03,025 --> 00:32:06,817 But I got a very strong sense of everything else about her. 540 00:32:06,818 --> 00:32:10,730 The unfortunate part about this girl is.. 541 00:32:10,731 --> 00:32:12,837 I couldn't find a photo of her anywhere. 542 00:32:12,838 --> 00:32:17,356 But the good Doctor here is quite a painter. 543 00:32:17,357 --> 00:32:19,864 He actually painted a picture of her. 544 00:32:19,865 --> 00:32:22,385 Which I have. 545 00:32:24,339 --> 00:32:26,263 Everybody else has seen it but you. 546 00:32:26,264 --> 00:32:28,424 Oh, wow. 547 00:32:33,878 --> 00:32:36,820 - So you think it's her? - Without a doubt. 548 00:32:36,821 --> 00:32:39,754 Dr. Grimes, can you do me a favor and explain to Amy.. 549 00:32:39,755 --> 00:32:41,752 How you're trying to communicate with this little girl? 550 00:32:41,753 --> 00:32:44,934 There's a closet in the room at the top of the stairs.. 551 00:32:44,935 --> 00:32:49,392 And I, over the years, have put toys in there. 552 00:32:49,393 --> 00:32:51,628 To let her know that there are people who care. 553 00:32:51,629 --> 00:32:54,085 I don't know if I'm doing the they're thing or not. 554 00:32:54,086 --> 00:32:56,147 Is that a good thing or a bad thing he's doing? 555 00:32:56,148 --> 00:32:57,726 Really bad. 556 00:32:57,727 --> 00:32:59,875 What can happen is that.. 557 00:32:59,876 --> 00:33:03,901 A lot of times, um, we become a little too attached. 558 00:33:03,902 --> 00:33:08,478 That attachment can actually be something else that kind of holds them here. 559 00:33:08,479 --> 00:33:10,279 Oh. 560 00:33:13,117 --> 00:33:15,658 What else did you see? 561 00:33:15,659 --> 00:33:18,364 Um, I also encountered.. 562 00:33:18,365 --> 00:33:21,113 A really negative male. 563 00:33:21,114 --> 00:33:24,328 At the top of the stairs.. 564 00:33:24,329 --> 00:33:26,563 Who I believe is her Father. 565 00:33:26,564 --> 00:33:30,344 And he really hated his family. 566 00:33:30,809 --> 00:33:32,897 This guy is laughing. 567 00:33:32,898 --> 00:33:35,324 He's just laughing and laughing. 568 00:33:35,325 --> 00:33:37,671 "She was a useless bitch". 569 00:33:37,672 --> 00:33:40,021 "She (Bleep) Wanted all this stuff". 570 00:33:40,022 --> 00:33:44,684 "And I didn't have any use for her any more". 571 00:33:44,685 --> 00:33:48,432 Why don't you explain to Amy what you told me, about.. 572 00:33:48,433 --> 00:33:50,287 What's going on upstairs? 573 00:33:50,288 --> 00:33:52,759 In the stairwell.. 574 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:57,368 I have heard a man really putting his feet down hard. 575 00:33:57,369 --> 00:33:58,815 Like he's stomping. 576 00:33:58,816 --> 00:34:02,132 And I get the impression he's a rather large man. 577 00:34:02,133 --> 00:34:04,514 He came up behind me one evening as I was turning 578 00:34:04,515 --> 00:34:06,386 off the lights and everything in the house. 579 00:34:06,387 --> 00:34:08,872 He simply said, "get out of here". 580 00:34:08,873 --> 00:34:11,661 I would get so afraid that I would just have to leave. 581 00:34:11,662 --> 00:34:13,678 He's aggressive. 582 00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:15,869 He seems to be angry about something. 583 00:34:15,870 --> 00:34:17,314 He's very violent. 584 00:34:17,315 --> 00:34:20,075 - Violent? - Yes. 585 00:34:21,428 --> 00:34:23,597 He is a very violent personality. 586 00:34:23,598 --> 00:34:27,890 When I was talking about what happened to her.. 587 00:34:27,891 --> 00:34:30,362 He became extremely upset. 588 00:34:30,363 --> 00:34:33,936 And then he came up behind me and he.. 589 00:34:33,937 --> 00:34:35,997 Poked me really hard right here. 590 00:34:35,998 --> 00:34:39,118 And then he ran away. 591 00:34:40,728 --> 00:34:41,972 (Bleep)! 592 00:34:41,973 --> 00:34:43,788 What the (Bleep)?! 593 00:34:43,789 --> 00:34:45,246 What happened? 594 00:34:45,247 --> 00:34:47,411 He poked me. 595 00:34:47,412 --> 00:34:51,312 Because he got mad and ran away. 596 00:34:52,123 --> 00:34:56,296 Now, Karen, you.. You.. You're.. You got emotional again. 597 00:34:56,297 --> 00:34:58,452 I was upstairs.. 598 00:34:58,453 --> 00:35:01,529 And I was hit with something.. 599 00:35:01,530 --> 00:35:05,884 That I was so cold it affected my whole body. 600 00:35:05,885 --> 00:35:10,057 My knees were shaking. It was bad. Very bad. 601 00:35:10,058 --> 00:35:12,758 Very frightening. 602 00:35:13,378 --> 00:35:16,273 There's a back story to Lavina. 603 00:35:16,274 --> 00:35:18,311 The girl that died in the duplex. 604 00:35:18,312 --> 00:35:20,777 Her, her Mother, and her older sister.. 605 00:35:20,778 --> 00:35:24,724 Fled Ohio from their abusive, drunk Father. 606 00:35:24,725 --> 00:35:27,420 His name was Cyrus. 607 00:35:27,421 --> 00:35:33,321 And just by looking at the photo of him, you can see he's a real miserable guy. 608 00:35:36,594 --> 00:35:37,560 Wow. 609 00:35:37,561 --> 00:35:39,878 He was abusive. He was a drunk. 610 00:35:39,879 --> 00:35:43,647 He beat his wife. But then the next day, he would be apologetic about it. 611 00:35:43,648 --> 00:35:45,988 Whoa. Okay. 612 00:35:47,504 --> 00:35:50,485 Um, so I did a sketch. 613 00:35:50,486 --> 00:35:53,549 That I think might be him. 614 00:35:53,550 --> 00:35:54,543 You think? 615 00:35:54,544 --> 00:35:57,664 You guys can tell me. 616 00:36:06,090 --> 00:36:07,950 Wow. 617 00:36:09,075 --> 00:36:10,812 Look at this photo. 618 00:36:10,813 --> 00:36:15,073 Now look at this sketch. You tell me. 619 00:36:32,724 --> 00:36:35,005 So I did a sketch. 620 00:36:35,006 --> 00:36:38,486 That I think might be him. 621 00:36:44,769 --> 00:36:46,629 Wow. 622 00:36:46,630 --> 00:36:48,972 Look at this photo. 623 00:36:48,973 --> 00:36:50,775 Now look at this sketch. 624 00:36:50,776 --> 00:36:53,236 You tell me. 625 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,940 The same.. Cruel mouth. 626 00:37:11,575 --> 00:37:13,898 The same boxer-like nose. 627 00:37:13,899 --> 00:37:15,233 And ears. 628 00:37:15,234 --> 00:37:18,234 Yeah, the long ears. 629 00:37:19,070 --> 00:37:22,037 - She has him. - Mm-hmm. 630 00:37:22,038 --> 00:37:24,258 I would say that's him. 631 00:37:24,259 --> 00:37:25,936 I can feel it. 632 00:37:25,937 --> 00:37:28,337 It's weird. 633 00:37:30,046 --> 00:37:34,084 I'm just, like, freaked out a little bit. 634 00:37:34,085 --> 00:37:36,454 What would bring him to the house? 635 00:37:36,455 --> 00:37:38,675 I think.. 636 00:37:38,966 --> 00:37:41,906 He, uh, killed her. 637 00:37:42,862 --> 00:37:47,203 He was at the top of the stairs, picked her up, and threw her. 638 00:37:47,204 --> 00:37:49,604 Oh, my God. 639 00:37:52,671 --> 00:37:55,042 One of the things that I did get, 640 00:37:55,043 --> 00:37:59,977 um, was that he did attempt to make it look like an accident. 641 00:37:59,978 --> 00:38:04,054 My gut and my investigative background.. 642 00:38:04,055 --> 00:38:08,419 I wouldn't doubt that this guy was capable of doing what he did. 643 00:38:08,420 --> 00:38:11,389 I don't know might possess a man to come looking for his daughter 644 00:38:11,390 --> 00:38:12,924 and kill her in cold blood. 645 00:38:12,925 --> 00:38:16,761 But as a former Detective, I've seen this plenty of times before. 646 00:38:16,762 --> 00:38:21,360 You said that you heard him laughing, uh, about this.. 647 00:38:21,361 --> 00:38:23,401 The.. The fact that he knew what he had done? 648 00:38:23,402 --> 00:38:24,569 Oh, yeah. 649 00:38:24,570 --> 00:38:27,080 He was very proud of himself. 650 00:38:27,081 --> 00:38:29,230 Well, I'll be. 651 00:38:29,231 --> 00:38:32,951 I never even.. Dreamt of that. 652 00:38:34,157 --> 00:38:36,780 This evil man continues to haunt this location.. 653 00:38:36,781 --> 00:38:42,681 Because he wants to keep the events surrounding his daughter's death unknown. 654 00:38:44,388 --> 00:38:47,625 Well, Doctor, now we're gonna answer your most pressing question.. 655 00:38:47,626 --> 00:38:48,960 Is it safe for you here? 656 00:38:48,961 --> 00:38:53,464 And is there a way to stop some of these spirits scaring away your patients? 657 00:38:53,465 --> 00:38:58,025 For that, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy. 658 00:38:58,435 --> 00:39:02,904 The first thing that I would recommend is getting rid of her Father. 659 00:39:02,905 --> 00:39:07,295 He needs to be removed from the location. 660 00:39:07,296 --> 00:39:13,169 I have some things that I brought that I felt would be good for getting him out. 661 00:39:13,170 --> 00:39:15,350 This is a blend of natural herbs. 662 00:39:15,351 --> 00:39:19,235 Something that you burn and you can walk through the house with it. 663 00:39:19,236 --> 00:39:23,123 It's for home blessing and protection. 664 00:39:23,124 --> 00:39:25,945 And then we have some holy water. 665 00:39:25,946 --> 00:39:29,116 He's not gonna like this at all. 666 00:39:29,117 --> 00:39:33,917 This is going to make him very uncomfortable. 667 00:39:34,338 --> 00:39:38,804 And then the last thing we have is black salt. 668 00:39:38,805 --> 00:39:42,172 That's going to keep him out. 669 00:39:42,173 --> 00:39:45,999 And you wanna do this once every day for a week. 670 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:51,520 So he knows that he's not allowed back in that house. 671 00:39:52,490 --> 00:39:55,788 After you deal with him. 672 00:39:55,789 --> 00:40:00,949 The next step is going to be connecting with her. 673 00:40:02,367 --> 00:40:06,631 Having a talk with her, and letting her know.. 674 00:40:06,632 --> 00:40:10,025 That it's okay for her to go. 675 00:40:10,026 --> 00:40:12,923 It may take several months. 676 00:40:12,924 --> 00:40:16,981 Because you guys are so attached to each other, to work through it. 677 00:40:16,982 --> 00:40:20,456 And you may see a lot of changes with her. 678 00:40:20,457 --> 00:40:26,357 And they'll be positive changes as she's getting ready to.. To leave. 679 00:40:26,594 --> 00:40:29,715 So does he just tell her, "you should go, move on"? 680 00:40:29,716 --> 00:40:31,314 Or what does he.. What does he tell her? 681 00:40:31,315 --> 00:40:33,247 Well, it's kind of like sitting down and being like.. 682 00:40:33,248 --> 00:40:35,178 "You know, we.. We know the truth. 683 00:40:35,179 --> 00:40:37,002 We know what happened to you". 684 00:40:37,003 --> 00:40:39,606 Because it really validates them. 685 00:40:39,607 --> 00:40:42,589 To be acknowledged and have their stories heard. 686 00:40:42,590 --> 00:40:46,891 That's one of the most important things for the dead. 687 00:40:46,892 --> 00:40:49,898 Karen, h.. How does all this information make you feel? 688 00:40:49,899 --> 00:40:52,467 I mean, do you feel validated? 689 00:40:52,468 --> 00:40:54,017 Yes. 690 00:40:54,018 --> 00:40:56,827 I think.. I think we've got some closure now. 691 00:40:56,828 --> 00:40:58,097 Okay. 692 00:40:58,098 --> 00:41:00,015 Doc, are you gonna be able to let her go? 693 00:41:00,016 --> 00:41:01,469 Because you're.. You're really, like, almost 694 00:41:01,470 --> 00:41:05,670 a fatherly figure right now with her. 695 00:41:10,375 --> 00:41:12,715 I have to. 696 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,038 It's.. It's for her. 697 00:41:14,039 --> 00:41:15,247 It's for her. 698 00:41:15,248 --> 00:41:16,891 It's not me. It's her. 699 00:41:16,892 --> 00:41:20,272 I'll miss her, but I certainly wouldn't miss him for one split second. 700 00:41:20,273 --> 00:41:22,913 No not at all. 701 00:41:26,085 --> 00:41:27,888 Even though it may look bizarre to you.. 702 00:41:27,889 --> 00:41:29,405 It looks bizarre to me.. 703 00:41:29,406 --> 00:41:32,590 Just promise me you'll take her advice. 704 00:41:32,591 --> 00:41:34,691 I will. 705 00:41:35,208 --> 00:41:37,840 I really hope that Dr. Grimes follows through.. 706 00:41:37,841 --> 00:41:40,774 And cleanses the house of the angry Father. 707 00:41:40,775 --> 00:41:46,675 Even if it means letting go of the little girl he's grown so attached to. 708 00:41:46,703 --> 00:41:50,423 Subs created by: David Coleman. 709 00:41:50,473 --> 00:41:55,023 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 54675

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